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| 3 | My findings from misandrist Twitter.You should look into the etymology of the word "misandry." When it was first used, what was happening in the world at the time, etc. It's instructive. | /r/MensRights | 05/12/23 02:14 PM |
| 1 | how men's rights is perceived as cringe and what to do about it😂 is there anything you guys won't try to blame on feminism/women?? | /r/MensRights | 04/12/23 12:01 AM |
| 1 | Female MRA here. I have a question for you guys.I'm also a woman who advocates for men's rights (learned about it through feminism, and I choose to identify as a radical feminist precisely because it is the path to liberation for men as well as women), and I usually wait until something comes up that is related to a men's rights issue and then work my POV into the conversation. It seems to work well, and I almost always get something out of the discussions that follow. | /r/MensRights | 03/12/23 09:27 PM |
| 1 | Why is is that this stereotype is always perpetuated by those that have the most to lose from it?You do know you are in an anti-feminist sub, so not sure why you would feign surprise Oh, well according to most of the rhetoric I hear in this sub, the guys claim to have a problem with feminists, not women in general. I actually appreciate your honesty. Because I do not see it that way. Because they are doing more harm than so called good. They are bringing about chaos and destroying the fabric of society. The output of their success is failure for a nation. I can absolutely understand why you… | /r/AntiFeminists | 08/12/21 04:27 PM |
| -7 | Watch them freak out when we don’t need them. All she states can be done by a man. Except have kids( That’s if he wants kids)This is a great example of the kind of responses I get when I dispute hypergamy, and I appreciate you responding. My thoughts: Expecting a man to have a car and a place to live doesn't seem at all unreasonable to me; those are the kind of signifiers that let you know someone has their shit together, can pay their bills, and you might be able to start saving together. Once again, I have little to no experience with any female acquaintance saying or even hinting that they won't date/marry a man un… | /r/AntiFeminists | 06/12/21 01:23 PM |
| 1 | Watch them freak out when we don’t need them. All she states can be done by a man. Except have kids( That’s if he wants kids)I like the multi-generational family model, too, and wouldn't mind seeing that put into practice in the US. We're talking about my fantasy utopia, though, not something that I can ever see happening. Americans are way, way too selfish for stuff like that. The only thing I completely disagree with are arranged marriages - at least as a standard, society-wide practice. I don't care what individuals do with their own lives. Thanks for your thoughtful reply - I'm going to see what my husband thinks … | /r/AntiFeminists | 06/12/21 01:10 PM |
| -7 | Watch them freak out when we don’t need them. All she states can be done by a man. Except have kids( That’s if he wants kids)I'm a 44-year old woman, and never in my life have a heard any female friend, acquaintance, co-worker, or family member say that income is a main consideration when it comes to who they date. Not once, not ever. I have a cousin who married an 80-year old doctor in an obvious attempt to get his money, so I'm not trying to say that there are not women out there who set out to deliberately financially abuse men - of course there are. But the hypergamy stuff is simply not the way the vast majority o… | /r/AntiFeminists | 06/12/21 11:16 AM |
| 2 | Watch them freak out when we don’t need them. All she states can be done by a man. Except have kids( That’s if he wants kids)Other than the continuation of the species, does either sex really need the other one? Gay couples get along just fine. I don't want to be needed in a relationship; I want to be wanted. Being needed can mean that someone is needy, and both of those things can feel like obligations and/or burdens. I don't need my husband because I can support and provide for myself, but I very, very much want my husband because he's my best friend and "soulmate." Finally, I personally find being "wanted" more fla… | /r/AntiFeminists | 06/12/21 10:55 AM |
| 1 | Why is is that this stereotype is always perpetuated by those that have the most to lose from it?I'm still interested in hearing your reasons for objecting to feminism. How about this: unless you say otherwise, I'm going to assume that you dislike feminism because you either a) have a problem with women, or b) feel like feminism threatens your masculinity. I'll take the west's "obsession with gender" and the rights I enjoy as a female over most societies in Arabia, Africa, and Asia. I don't have a problem with any of those cultures, but I sure as hell wouldn't want to have to live in some o… | /r/AntiFeminists | 06/12/21 10:33 AM |
| 0 | Why is is that this stereotype is always perpetuated by those that have the most to lose from it?I think it's interesting that you feel the need to shame people who want to "fix the world." To be honest, I'm kinda interested in why feminists get under your skin so badly. Shit, as soon as I found out there was such a thing as men's rights, I ran out and started learning about it and having conversations with them. I think it's awesome! It makes me excited to think that one day we could stop infant boys from getting genitally mutilated, or that men could have paternal leave one day to have th… | /r/AntiFeminists | 05/12/21 07:07 PM |
| -1 | Why is is that this stereotype is always perpetuated by those that have the most to lose from it?I sincerely feel bad for your misery and I think a lot of it is unearned. You didn't have a say in the kind of man you wanted to be, and I think that's deeply unfair. I don't blame you for being angry, and I can totally understand why you would want to take that anger out on feminists. We're the obvious target. What is painful to watch is that you're only making things worse for yourself in the long run. It doesn't matter what you do or say to women - i mean, sure, it might matter to them, but y… | /r/AntiFeminists | 05/12/21 12:07 PM |
| -4 | Notice how they don't identify it as rape. By the way, the boy was the one who got the charges.Mm-hmm, you got it alright. | /r/AntiFeminists | 05/12/21 11:44 AM |
| -2 | Why is is that this stereotype is always perpetuated by those that have the most to lose from it?I think it's so interesting, not to mention telling, the things that men insist on being right about. And society has already changed, dinosaur - sorry you couldn't hack the comet. | /r/AntiFeminists | 05/12/21 11:43 AM |
| -2 | Notice how they don't identify it as rape. By the way, the boy was the one who got the charges.Because no country minds publishing news that makes it look really fucked up, they never try to hide inconvenient realities from the world or anything. Critical thinking skills come in handy if you're interested in making sure you're not reading propaganda all day, jesus christ... | /r/AntiFeminists | 05/12/21 09:51 AM |
| -18 | Notice how they don't identify it as rape. By the way, the boy was the one who got the charges.India has a vested interest in pretending this isn't a problem. You're going to get a more fulsome discussion of the issue in a non-national news article. I'm not sure why you're so bothered by this idea, but I'm not gonna hang around and try to convince you. Have a good one. | /r/AntiFeminists | 05/12/21 04:51 AM |
| -15 | Notice how they don't identify it as rape. By the way, the boy was the one who got the charges.Tsk tsk tsk - do more research, my friend. That's why I included a link ;) | /r/AntiFeminists | 05/12/21 03:36 AM |
| -18 | Notice how they don't identify it as rape. By the way, the boy was the one who got the charges.India has a huge problem with their male-to-female ratio, due in part to the practice of aborting female fetuses, which seems like it would probably take them out of the running for the "most feminist country" award. | /r/AntiFeminists | 05/12/21 02:42 AM |
| -1 | Why is is that this stereotype is always perpetuated by those that have the most to lose from it?Certainly men were killed for those reasons, but it would be arguing in bad faith to suggest that, regarding the original issue of promiscuity/virginity, men were murdered in similar numbers. They weren't. You make good points about prison conditions, sentences, etc but that is a completely different conversation (and one in which I likely agree with you on many things.) I have a lot of problems with some of your other assertions, which are what I think of as typical and typically convenient. I … | /r/AntiFeminists | 05/12/21 01:37 AM |
| 6 | Why is is that this stereotype is always perpetuated by those that have the most to lose from it?Said the same people who would make fun of men with terms like virgin, incel, small penis, creep, bet you never shagged a girl etc. They have their own insults Absolutely. This is something I was just grappling with not too long ago! I decided that I was no longer going to use misogynistic swears because I finally realized that I'm basically just insulting myself when I do, and working on that has given me a lot of opportunities to think about gendered insults that women direct against men. Ther… | /r/AntiFeminists | 04/12/21 09:05 PM |
| 2 | The women who accused that 400 men harassed her proved wrong.Really? 400? What - was she keeping records? How in the hell would anyone know that? Bullshit right from the jump. And i must add my obligatory disgust with women who make false accusations for all the reasons we've heard before. Thankfully it's a rare occurrence, when compare to the shitload of crimes being reported every year. | /r/AntiFeminists | 15/10/21 11:46 AM |
| 1 | LolI was talking to my husband about the exchange we have going on here because I wanted to know what he thought could/should be done. He was stumped, too. We were trying to ponder what justice would be for guys who fall victim to that. How can you get back a reputation? The whole way we go about handling sexual assaults must have some pervasive dysfunction, because rape kits don't get run, convictions aren't common, and then people proven innocent who get stigmatized forever. I haven't thought muc… | /r/AntiFeminists | 14/10/21 09:42 PM |
| 1 | LolWhat sort of changes do I propose? Tbh, I have never spent a meaningful amount of time thinking about that. In my little town they publish the name of anyone arrested for any offense, long before they get the trial to which they're entitled, and I'm assuming that practice is common everywhere. That might be some place to start - especially when it comes to sex crimes, which have such a social stigma. What do you think? | /r/AntiFeminists | 14/10/21 01:24 AM |
| 1 | LolI agree that the "believe all women" campaign has problematic wording, and I absolutely disagree with violation of any citizen's due process, regardless of any crime they may have committed. That includes making public the names of suspects who have not been proven guilty. The fact that so many sexual assaults go unreported, and the fact that so few of those that are reported ever result in a conviction shows that there are problems with the way that our criminal justice system handles sexual as… | /r/AntiFeminists | 13/10/21 11:48 PM |
| 1 | LolI respect your opinion, I'm just not going to get into a debate with you about the issue. That has nothing to do with you personally or any gender-related concerns; it's a topic that a) would take us away from the focus of this sub, and b) I find exhausting to debate in any forum, tbh! There is no disrespect to you intended. | /r/AntiFeminists | 13/10/21 11:35 PM |
| 0 | LolI would respectfully rather agree to disagree with you on this issue, because it's so complex and can take us down all kinds of paths. I'm most interested in learning more about your opposition to feminism and thoughts on gender relations etc, because I don't hear as much from your perspective on those issues as I do from pro-life advocates. I've been arguing with them for decades, lol - you have a lot more to teach me, frankly. | /r/AntiFeminists | 13/10/21 05:53 PM |
| -2 | LolYes, those are the common arguments pro-life advocates use. I referred to their beliefs as inconsistent because the main principle, an abiding respect for the sanctity of life, doesn't inform the majority of other policies they support. The reverence for life they express seems to me to be entirely dependent on a single issue, rather than an honestly held view of the world. Pro-choice advocates argue that the choice to become a mother is one that only pregnant women should be making. It supports… | /r/AntiFeminists | 13/10/21 03:47 PM |
| -1 | LolBut the majority of rapes are never reported at all, which I see as a significant barrier to a real understanding of how prevalent false reports are and the harm that they cause. We know that the majority of sexual assaults are never reported, so there is a lack of knowledge concerning how common false reporting is and the negative effects it has. There are disparities in the ways that rapes are reported, investigated, and resolved in comparison with other crimes that indicate widespread problem… | /r/AntiFeminists | 13/10/21 03:37 PM |
| 2 | LolYes, a large percentage of rape cases wind up "unfounded," which is exactly what you said - lack of evidence either way. This happens with all variety of crimes; cops aren't always able to get the evidence a district attorney needs to bring charges. I don't think I understand why this would be a problem with the crime of rape specifically | /r/AntiFeminists | 11/10/21 08:21 PM |
| 1 | LolWhat are the inaccuracies in those assertions? Economics is my poli-sci Achilles heel, so I can't speak to the pay inequality. Regarding the rape statistic, estimates I've seen are similar. I don't understand how they arrived at that ratio, given that a majority of rapes are unreported. Anecdotally speaking, I've had a lot of women in my life who were sexually assaulted, including myself, and none of us reported it. I understand that you disagree about the prevalence of false rape reports. What … | /r/AntiFeminists | 11/10/21 06:56 PM |
| -3 | Lolfeminism pits men and women against each other with the "patriarchy theory". To push back on this a bit, I don't think that patriarchy necessarily forces us into conflict with one another. Rethinking the patriarchy will greatly benefit both genders. To an extent, men do benefit from the current system, but, as you pointed out, they deal with plenty of inequality themselves. Patriarchy forces men into a very narrow, rather toxic definition of masculinity that kinda sets men up to fail. Men's stat… | /r/AntiFeminists | 11/10/21 06:08 PM |
| 1 | LolAnecdotal is fine with me. Our individual experiences matter when considering this topic - I think, anyway. And I agree with you that women can be misandrist when criticizing men. To be embarrassingly honest, although I knew what the word meant, I didn't bother much with misandry until I started lurking on subs like this. Once I started learning about it, I began to notice it quite frequently. I'd stopped using misogynistic swears already, but realized that I needed to get rid of the misandrist … | /r/AntiFeminists | 11/10/21 05:14 PM |
| -1 | LolThose are quite broad terms. Makes it difficult to ascertain what is being assessed. All women or a majority? Becoming - what were they before and how are they changing? Useless - vague. Feminism - also vague. There's not much one can make of that statement, really. | /r/AntiFeminists | 11/10/21 04:59 PM |
| -2 | LolSomeone else said that, too. Can you tell me some specific instances of hypocrisy you've noticed? I'm curious. I hate that shit, too - pro-life advocates have extremely inconsistent beliefs, and I think it makes it very difficult to debate them. Just to assure you, this is not a gotcha type set up, I'm genuinely interested in knowing this stuff. | /r/AntiFeminists | 11/10/21 04:55 PM |
| 0 | LolI don't find your theory to be excessively conspiratorial in nature - look at all the shit we're learning about Facebook. It's been like the fucking Wild Wild West - or maybe Westworld, since it's exploitation heavy. I think something about social media has made us incredibly selfish, perhaps the curating of experience, or the constant fucking selfies - like all the world is a mirror. Ya, it would be relatively easy for a hostile foreign nation to infiltrate our social media and attempt to fuck … | /r/AntiFeminists | 11/10/21 10:34 AM |
| 0 | LolI'm sorry - I didn't intend for my comment to sound like I was complaining about anyone in this thread! I was just talking about conversing with incels in general. I get the consistency thing. I have the same problem with pro-life people, and it's frustrating as shit. What to do about women who call themselves feminists and simultaneously to things that make us all look like shitlords is a tough one. I've noticed that the female dating strategy sub makes me roll my eyes and click out of there fa… | /r/AntiFeminists | 11/10/21 09:48 AM |
| -1 | LolInferior in general, or inferior related to a specific topic? | /r/AntiFeminists | 11/10/21 09:11 AM |
| -10 | Lol"Femcel" is a thing?? I'm curious to hear more about that! | /r/AntiFeminists | 11/10/21 09:10 AM |
| -30 | LolAwww, I hate that you feel that way - but I can kind of relate from dealing with incels. Out of idle curiosity, what do you think would have to change about feminism for you to revise your opinion? | /r/AntiFeminists | 11/10/21 07:55 AM |
| 5 | This dumb sexist bitch popping up in anyone else's Instagram feed? Ruined my day ffsWhat???? Since when?? Wow...I'm extremely disappointed to hear that. | /r/AntiFeminists | 10/10/21 07:26 PM |
| 1 | This dumb sexist bitch popping up in anyone else's Instagram feed? Ruined my day ffsYou're pretty much right. First wave feminists were definitely opposed to the objectification of women. The second wave started talking about owning their own sexuality and bodies etc, which I think got a wee bit off the hook, and now I don't know where the hell they stand on the topic. The stuff about sex work being empowering is absurd, imo, that's about all I know. | /r/AntiFeminists | 10/10/21 07:23 PM |
| 2 | Just some questions from the “feminism” test. I was only going to put the dumb ones but then I realized by question six they all were so I had to pick the funniest ones after that.Yes!!! I remember you! Glad to run into you again! Have any new knowledge or thoughts to drop on me? | /r/AntiFeminists | 10/10/21 05:55 PM |
| 1 | This is the result of "believe all women". I've had enough...LOL! Perhaps I do, but I have surprisingly rewarding and wonderful friendships with them that I never expected to develop. They've inspired me and imparted their wisdom to me, and I call/write the prison and bitch about anything my friends complain about. I never thought they would have such a (positive!) impact on me. | /r/AntiFeminists | 10/10/21 03:07 PM |
| 4 | Just some questions from the “feminism” test. I was only going to put the dumb ones but then I realized by question six they all were so I had to pick the funniest ones after that.I'm a female and a feminist, and I wasn't able to make sense of the very first question. Something along the lines of "assuming all women have vaginas is a way for men to keep them down" or similar bullshit. Wtf does that even mean? Women do have vaginas - that's not even an assumption in the first place, unless they're referring to the very, very small minority of pre-op transwomen whose inclusion in this question can be debated. I didn't bother with the rest of it. What bullshit. | /r/AntiFeminists | 09/10/21 11:32 PM |
| 1 | This feminist hates all men, but hey, this is EkWaLiDy, MySaNdary best, you gooo gurlll!You have me a lot to think about, and I really appreciate the time you took to comment. I respect your criticism of feminism and agree with some of it, but I need to kind of absorb what you're saying and mull it over. This topic is too important to me and you put forth too much effort for me not to think about this. I really appreciate getting the perspective of men in general, but particularly men who participate in this sub, so I thank you again. :) | /r/AntiFeminists | 09/10/21 04:29 PM |
| -1 | This feminist hates all men, but hey, this is EkWaLiDy, MySaNdary best, you gooo gurlll!I can understand why you are resentful that men are being left out of the equation, even though they also suffer from inequalities. You're right - that isn't fair. I think you made an interesting point about movements typically being taken too far and going off the rails; tbh I thought that about #MeToo at the end - it got ridiculous. And I also can't deny that there are definitely feminists out there who are hypocrites, who don't add anything productive to the debate, and who do hate men. I see… | /r/AntiFeminists | 08/10/21 05:26 AM |
| 0 | This feminist hates all men, but hey, this is EkWaLiDy, MySaNdary best, you gooo gurlll!I 100% agree with most of that! Men's issues need attention!!! This is something I strongly believe in, and I advocate for men whenever I can. (Basically whenever I hear someone say something misandrist or joke about a guy getting emotional, penis jokes, etc.) I can definitely understand your frustrations, and I personally think you have a valid point. We (as in society) don't talk about the excessively rigid gender roles you're expected to fulfill; we don't talk about men not having to be the d… | /r/AntiFeminists | 08/10/21 04:02 AM |
| -3 | This feminist hates all men, but hey, this is EkWaLiDy, MySaNdary best, you gooo gurlll!Female and feminist ally here. Posts like OP are not acceptable to me, and I think you have every right to be angry. This kind of misandrist bullshit damages men and feminism, and it pretty much ends the possibility of constructive conversation. I want to challenge you guys a little bit though: That post is uncalled for, and I'm glad that you drew attention to it. But what now? This is a sub opposed to feminism, but the discourse is often opposed to women in general rather than feminists specifi… | /r/AntiFeminists | 07/10/21 09:49 PM |
| 1 | This is the result of "believe all women". I've had enough...And how do you figure that? I've posted links, backed up my point, and I've read all of your comments, so your comment is pretty inaccurate. | /r/AntiFeminists | 02/10/21 04:51 PM |
| 1 | This is the result of "believe all women". I've had enough...No, not specifics about the argument, just the general anger and panic that I'm seeing. It's just funny. | /r/AntiFeminists | 02/10/21 04:50 PM |
| 1 | This is the result of "believe all women". I've had enough...Nope. I'm right on. Your mind is narrow and you're obsessed with women, so I consider you more than a little unreliable, particularly regarding rape, lol. | /r/AntiFeminists | 02/10/21 03:21 PM |
| -2 | This is the result of "believe all women". I've had enough...It must be so nice to be a man and having the luxury of being a completely clueless asshole. | /r/AntiFeminists | 02/10/21 03:19 PM |
| 1 | This is the result of "believe all women". I've had enough...Do you have any idea how much of every woman's life is structured around men's collective insecurities? Or how fucking clueless and entitled and buffoonish you sound when you try to talk about rape? I'm a passionate advocate for men's rights, but I'm also done kowtowing and walking on eggshells due to the American males' collective unwillingness to learn how to handle their emotional bullshit. You guys need to figure that shit out on your own and stop using women as an object with which you assu… | /r/AntiFeminists | 02/10/21 03:12 PM |
| 1 | This is the result of "believe all women". I've had enough...Lol...you have a lot of fucking nerve to say that bullshit to me. Your fragile, stereotypical masculinity and your secret rape fantasies aren't my problem. You are a little man who can only feel "powerful" by putting down the people who threaten you. There is absolutely nothing about myself that I need to justify to you; exactly who in the fuck do you think you are? Hmm? In order for you to hurt or upset me, i would first have to give a fuck about your thoughts, feelings, and opinions. Let me be… | /r/AntiFeminists | 02/10/21 12:48 PM |
| 1 | This is the result of "believe all women". I've had enough...Meh, idk. I don't really think about it that much anymore. The most important thing about all of that was that I took responsibility for the part that I played and I'm a much more cautious, safer person now. He has to deal with his own conscience, and, frankly, I don't give a shit how he thinks or feels about it. I never reported it to the cops because there was no way for me to prove what happened, and, after he was screaming at me in the street, I was worried that he might get violent. That is… | /r/AntiFeminists | 02/10/21 12:23 PM |
| 1 | This is the result of "believe all women". I've had enough...woman gets raped woman reports rape police can't prove rape in your opinion, the woman is lying and trying to ruin an innocent man's life and deserves to be punished. man finds murder victim man reports murder to cops cops can't solve murder the guy who reported the murder must have been lying, so he's the one that should be charged. Both scenarios are absurd and utterly backwards. | /r/AntiFeminists | 02/10/21 12:15 PM |
| -3 | This is the result of "believe all women". I've had enough...It's amusing to watch how defensive some of you are getting about this. What you're doing is defending men's right to rape women because you feel entitled to pleasure yourself with our bodies. That's the bottom line. You can dress it up with logic and condescension, but you're not fooling anyone. I'm bowing out of this "debate" because I don't deal with men that have these kinds of creepy attitudes anymore. Life is too short. Best of luck. | /r/AntiFeminists | 02/10/21 12:13 PM |
| 0 | This is the result of "believe all women". I've had enough...I'm not going to continue arguing with you about this, because your assertion is absurd. To be blunt, you sound like you're defending your right to sexually assault women, as well as believing that you're entitled to judge and condemn them. I don't deal with men who have these kind of creepy, vindictive opinions anymore. Sorry. There are too many respectful, intelligent men out there that I'd rather spend my time on. | /r/AntiFeminists | 02/10/21 12:07 PM |
| 1 | This is the result of "believe all women". I've had enough...The situation was that I knew the guy casually because we both drank at this dive bar, and he also showed up at get-togethers held by mutual friends. We were definitely on speaking terms, but I didn't know much about him. One night he said he had a certain pill that I used recreationally every once in a great while and offered to give it to me for free. I agreed, and we walked to his apartment. The problem was twofold: a) he told me the strength of the pill was half of what it truly was, and b) … | /r/AntiFeminists | 02/10/21 10:13 AM |
| 1 | This is the result of "believe all women". I've had enough...Okay, so by your logic, if the cops can't solve a murder, then they should just arrest the person who found the body for lying about it? | /r/AntiFeminists | 02/10/21 10:01 AM |
| 1 | This is the result of "believe all women". I've had enough...Because someone deliberately filing a false report has the intent to harm someone else. A woman that reports a rape that winds up being a "he said, she said" type of situation - i.e. the cops can't prove it happened or didn't happen - intends to report a crime, not harm anyone. There is a huge difference. | /r/AntiFeminists | 02/10/21 09:39 AM |
| 1 | This is the result of "believe all women". I've had enough...False reports of sexual assault are rare. Not reports of sexual assaults that can't be proven; deliberately false reports made intentionally to harm someone are rare. What do you stand to lose by admitting that? What about that fact is so upsetting? If anything, that fact reflects poorly on the women who commit that fraud and garners sympathy for the men who are their victims. Why does this random fact give you so much difficulty? I fucking hate when women do this - they're shitting on every sur… | /r/AntiFeminists | 02/10/21 08:04 AM |
| 1 | This is the result of "believe all women". I've had enough...I didn't read everything because it was too long Then why should I answer? | /r/AntiFeminists | 02/10/21 07:57 AM |
| -1 | This is the result of "believe all women". I've had enough...Start showing me the evidence, and I'll engage my critical thinking. I'm open to changing my mind :) | /r/AntiFeminists | 02/10/21 07:56 AM |
| 2 | This is the result of "believe all women". I've had enough...I can absolutely understand how taking that catchphrase literally could be dangerous - I've seen the consequences more than once in articles posted in this sub. I have no respect for a woman who would do something like that, the exact same way that I have no respect for a man/woman who sexually assaults another. In a perfect world, a victim of assault would go the hospital, get a rape kit done, and give every detail they can remember to the police, who would open up a case that they would invest… | /r/AntiFeminists | 02/10/21 03:45 AM |
| 1 | This is the result of "believe all women". I've had enough...Indeed. It's a really, really difficult situation. I was drugged and sexually assaulted by an acquaintance, and I ended up telling a friend what had happened. That asshole went straight to the bar where the acquaintance usually drank and started telling everyone what he had done. Of course the guy ended up showing up, he heard about it, and then I start getting texts/calls from people saying that B____ is out looking for me. I was terrified. I avoided even walking past that bar for awhile, but o… | /r/AntiFeminists | 02/10/21 01:59 AM |
| 18 | This is the result of "believe all women". I've had enough...People that are involved in the commission of a felony that results in someone's death, whether they are the person that actually "pulled the trigger" or not, are usually charged with felony murder. It has different names in different states (in Texas it's called the Law of Parties), but the concept is the same. If someone died during the commission of a felony, all of the participants are charged with murder regardless of who did the actual physical killing. I could see them charging her with t… | /r/AntiFeminists | 02/10/21 01:41 AM |
| -15 | This is the result of "believe all women". I've had enough...Fortunately false reporting of sexual assaults and witch burnings are both pretty rare in the grand scheme of things. Salem was kind of an isolated instance of mass hysteria, a kind of colonial Satanic Panic, though, whereas this false reporting is diffuse (but rare) throughout the country and over a long period of time. For that reason, I'm not sure that the implication that men are being hunted down is accurate. If there were a lot more fake reports made or the length of time were shorter, the… | /r/AntiFeminists | 02/10/21 01:34 AM |
| 9 | This is the result of "believe all women". I've had enough...As a woman, this sickens me and pisses me the fuck off. Women who do this are making a mockery of all the women that suffer real assaults, and are putting efforts to reduce sexual assaults and hold offenders accountable in jeopardy. This man is the victim of a crime, and he has suffered a really shitty impingement on his Constitutional rights to a) a speedy and public trial by a jury of his peers, b) being condemned and punished extralegally, without due process of law, c) to be officially infor… | /r/AntiFeminists | 02/10/21 01:21 AM |
| 0 | What is one argument that can make a feminist question their flawed worldview?Okie dokie. You have a terrific day! Best of luck! | /r/AntiFeminists | 29/09/21 05:39 PM |
| 1 | What is one argument that can make a feminist question their flawed worldview?I'm sure you could go on and on! Look at you go! | /r/AntiFeminists | 29/09/21 05:39 PM |
| 0 | What is one argument that can make a feminist question their flawed worldview?If you make the claim then present the evidence. That's how courts work. You're making a case to me, and you don't persuade or convince people by telling them to go look it up. | /r/AntiFeminists | 29/09/21 05:36 PM |
| 0 | What is one argument that can make a feminist question their flawed worldview?So your argument is that women should just be happy even though they still face discrimination? Because the article clearly states that equality in the workplace still hasn't caught up to social gains women have made. Additionally, you're ignoring the huge backlash that feminists have continuously faced. For example: although abortion was declared Constitutional over 40 years ago, they're still trying to overturn it. We don't just win these battles and move on; we have to keep fighting them over… | /r/AntiFeminists | 29/09/21 05:34 PM |
| 0 | What is one argument that can make a feminist question their flawed worldview?That's your job, not mine. Thanks for the link. | /r/AntiFeminists | 29/09/21 05:28 PM |
| 0 | What is one argument that can make a feminist question their flawed worldview?Well, thank you for sharing your thoughts. I'm genuinely sorry that you have to cope with all of that - just staying alive is stressful enough half of the time. I disagree with you on virtually everything and find your beliefs very disturbed and disturbing. I hope that things improve for you. | /r/AntiFeminists | 29/09/21 05:27 PM |
| 0 | What is one argument that can make a feminist question their flawed worldview?Data/sources, please. | /r/AntiFeminists | 29/09/21 05:19 PM |
| -1 | What is one argument that can make a feminist question their flawed worldview?Why should they have started out worried about equality? We couldn't even vote until 1920. Why would women care about men's rights when they were treated like property? You're not making an argument, you're whining. | /r/AntiFeminists | 29/09/21 05:13 PM |
| 0 | What is one argument that can make a feminist question their flawed worldview?I don't think you understand how disadvantaged women were when "feminism" became a thing. For reference, we've only been able to vote for 100 years, that's less than half of the time we've been a country. They weren't about equality in the beginning because they were treated like property in many ways. To expect them to be worried about equality right from the jump is ridiculous, petulant, and seem to be based on an inaccurate version of history. Btw, regarding the draft: i think that either wom… | /r/AntiFeminists | 29/09/21 05:08 PM |
| 2 | What is one argument that can make a feminist question their flawed worldview?LOL - I try to be as objective as i can, although sometimes it's really hard when talking about feminism. (The week of the TX abortion law I got into a stupid argument with my husband - that I started and about which I was totally out of line - about a feminist topic, went out into the hall and punched a wall, and now i have two pins in my 5th metacarpal of my dominant hand. So ya - sometimes i get a little emotional about the topic! Lol) The abortion issue has been fabricated by the religious r… | /r/AntiFeminists | 29/09/21 10:24 AM |
| -1 | What is one argument that can make a feminist question their flawed worldview?I think we absorb misogyny in thousands of little ways starting when we're little kids. It's not taught explicitly, but it's demonstrated in all kinds of ways. I absorbed it all, too - i catch myself thinking misogynistic shit myself quite frequently. It's just the way things are. i seriously doubt any man (or woman!) sets out to be a misogynist, it's just an unfortunate consequence of growing up in America. I don't really blame anyone for it. | /r/AntiFeminists | 29/09/21 09:45 AM |
| 3 | What is one argument that can make a feminist question their flawed worldview?That's a good question. In America, a lot of the right are also "Christians," and that religion is strongly patriarchal. They aren't concerned with gender equality whatsoever because, according to their beliefs, women are naturally subservient to men. (This is most often heard from fundamentalists - at least out loud.) The right in America is also really big into blaming everyone for their own problems, regardless of whether the person is actually responsible. For that reason, women often get bl… | /r/AntiFeminists | 29/09/21 09:37 AM |
| 1 | What is one argument that can make a feminist question their flawed worldview?I was raised as an evangelical, so I'm very familiar with Christian beliefs. The Bible does bring about a certain amount of misogyny. My family, for example, think that women should be subservient to their husbands and obey them in all things, because that's what the Bible says. But you're right - it doesn't all come from there. Where do you think some of it starts? Edit: about the reformist thing...I wouldn't say I'm into the idea of reforming the church. I'm more into the idea that we'd be bet… | /r/AntiFeminists | 29/09/21 09:20 AM |
| 2 | What is one argument that can make a feminist question their flawed worldview?Why don't you think feminists are working for gender equality? I can only speak for myself, but that is what I'm working for. I'm nominally a feminist because I'm a woman, but I advocate for both genders because equality is my only desired end result. | /r/AntiFeminists | 29/09/21 09:15 AM |
| -1 | What is one argument that can make a feminist question their flawed worldview?"Power devaluation" is an economic term that is also applied politically. When a privileged group experiences a loss of privilege, it is often perceived as an existential threat and can drive the group to increasingly extreme beliefs/tactics. For example, white people are expected to be a minority population in a couple of decades, and some white people think this will somehow dilute their political power (i.e. their vote.) That's part of the reason there has been a surge in racism/hate crimes l… | /r/AntiFeminists | 29/09/21 09:13 AM |
| 2 | What is one argument that can make a feminist question their flawed worldview?Ah - okay, I thought you were really trying to tear someone down! Dialogues are great - that's why I participate here. I've ended up in a lot of productive conversations with guys here that are helping me understand where they're coming from. What really got me interested in men's rights was first circumcision - that's the first time i even knew there was such a thing as men's rights - and then my own accrual of knowledge about feminism. We are so intertwined that the only way either of us are g… | /r/AntiFeminists | 29/09/21 08:54 AM |
| 2 | What is one argument that can make a feminist question their flawed worldview?The Bible lays the blame for all of humanity's sin, suffering, and death on Eve. That has been just a little problematic for women, being the root of all kinds of misogyny throughout the history of Christianity - in spite of the fact that Jesus was radically non-misogynistic for his times. | /r/AntiFeminists | 29/09/21 08:50 AM |
| -1 | What is one argument that can make a feminist question their flawed worldview?I was thinking just yesterday if maybe feminists shouldn't start with men's lib first. Until men are helped, women will never gain equality, so I was reconsidering my priorities around gender equality. I don't know if that helps you at all, but it was something that made me question my beliefs. I'm still not decided on the matter. Btw, being a feminist doesn't make my worldview flawed, it's just a worldview that you don't agree with. If you really want to make a devastating argument, you should … | /r/AntiFeminists | 29/09/21 08:41 AM |
| -3 | For the male haters lurkersMost of this is actually pretty good advice, from my perspective as a woman. I see more and more men expending more time and energy on blaming all of their difficulties and shortcomings on women, when it could be way better spent focusing on themselves. Most of what I find attractive in a man has nothing to do with looks or money, but rather on things like their self-confidence, their intellect, their beliefs, their opinions, their sense of humor, and how they treat strangers in public (that one… | /r/AntiFeminists | 01/09/21 07:11 PM |
| -9 | For the male haters lurkersOP is not saying that those things don't exist - you're setting up a strawman argument. There is plenty of room for criticism of feminism, but only constructive criticism is gonna help your cause. | /r/AntiFeminists | 01/09/21 07:02 PM |
| 12 | For the male haters lurkersThank you for so conveniently illustrating OP's point! | /r/AntiFeminists | 01/09/21 06:48 PM |
| 20 | The Feminists gonna be mad this time.I have to say, as a woman I've never understood the "impolite to ask a woman's age" thing. I don't know why it would be impolite. But, then again, I was also raised not to outright ask people about how much money they earn, and I still think that's incredibly rude. I've never even asked my own father how much he earns, it's just a tacky and disrespectful thing to do | /r/AntiFeminists | 20/08/21 08:48 AM |
| 37 | OnlyFans Will Ban Pornography Starting in October 2021 (to comply with financial partners)These are the same women who like to talk about how "empowering" sex work is. I'm sure that homeless mentally ill/substance addicted people selling themselves on the street feel really empowered... | /r/AntiFeminists | 20/08/21 04:20 AM |
| 0 | And just like that, feminism is forgotten and men are expected to sacrifice themselves for the women as always. Who would have guessed at the first sign of any real danger these keyboard warriors would be the first to run and hide behind a man.I think that you're being disingenuous and pedantic about Limbaugh not being a politician, because the amount of influence he had in th GOP was explicit. I don't care that you disagree, but intellectual dishonesty is unfortunate. If you don't understand how my example illustrates my point, I sincerely think I'd have a hard time finding a better example......which is exactly why i took the time to explain why men have difficulty understanding what the problem is with many of these issues. You kin… | /r/AntiFeminists | 18/08/21 05:40 PM |
| 0 | And just like that, feminism is forgotten and men are expected to sacrifice themselves for the women as always. Who would have guessed at the first sign of any real danger these keyboard warriors would be the first to run and hide behind a man.Well, there are others like me out in the world; we're just not fashionable right now, lol! Okay, I'll try to explain. Please know that I'm strictly speaking on my own behalf and not as some kind of official ambassador for feminists everywhere, just fyi. 1) I absolutely do not shame anyone of any gender for doing sex work, and I don't think that they should be suffer any legal consequences for how they make their living. The sex workers themselves aren't part of my issues. 2) I'm gonna be straig… | /r/AntiFeminists | 18/08/21 05:08 PM |
| 1 | And just like that, feminism is forgotten and men are expected to sacrifice themselves for the women as always. Who would have guessed at the first sign of any real danger these keyboard warriors would be the first to run and hide behind a man.Omg...the examples are legion. The most glaring example that comes to mind is Rush Limbaugh's response to a woman who was complaining about the cost/availability of birth control. He called her a slut and recited his usual "feminazi" routine. There are about a million ways to respond to that situation that advocate for strong Republican/Christian principles that don't rely on blatantly misogynistic ad hominem attacks, you know? That kind of thing is unfortunately common in DC. I think sometimes … | /r/AntiFeminists | 18/08/21 04:45 PM |
| 1 | And just like that, feminism is forgotten and men are expected to sacrifice themselves for the women as always. Who would have guessed at the first sign of any real danger these keyboard warriors would be the first to run and hide behind a man.No. You made a bunch of stereotypical, ignorant quasi-insults and then pretended that you didn't understand the criticism I made of your previous comment. Basically I told you, in the most respectful way I could, that you're a pretender and that I'd appreciate if you fucked off. I said that i wasn't going to respond to you anymore, so you followed me over here. I'm not going to waste a millisecond more of my life bothering to formulate respectful, good faith responses to your jackassery. And thi… | /r/AntiFeminists | 18/08/21 12:53 PM |
| 1 | And just like that, feminism is forgotten and men are expected to sacrifice themselves for the women as always. Who would have guessed at the first sign of any real danger these keyboard warriors would be the first to run and hide behind a man.Well, i tried. I'll have an honest debate with anyone, but I don't get in dishonest debates with ignorant people. Life is way too short. I don't wish you ill, I'm just not going to respond to you anymore. Take care. | /r/AntiFeminists | 18/08/21 12:22 PM |
| 0 | And just like that, feminism is forgotten and men are expected to sacrifice themselves for the women as always. Who would have guessed at the first sign of any real danger these keyboard warriors would be the first to run and hide behind a man.You're making the mistake of assuming that everyone experiences life the same way that you do. It's a human tendency, but it can really get in the way of accurately assessing a situation. I think you're also forming opinions with incomplete information, which is probably not intentional. If you really want to show the feminists who's boss, you would help yourself out a lot by educating yourself. Your arguments aren't very strong and rely a lot on generalization, so they don't convince me at all.… | /r/AntiFeminists | 18/08/21 12:05 PM |
| 0 | And just like that, feminism is forgotten and men are expected to sacrifice themselves for the women as always. Who would have guessed at the first sign of any real danger these keyboard warriors would be the first to run and hide behind a man.Well, that all depends on how you define earned and unearned rights. Personally, I'm a big fan of the good old-fashioned Enlightenment values and think that all human life merits a certain measure of rights just for existing. When I think of unearned rights I think more about privilege, which is a different thing. | /r/AntiFeminists | 18/08/21 11:41 AM |
| 1 | And just like that, feminism is forgotten and men are expected to sacrifice themselves for the women as always. Who would have guessed at the first sign of any real danger these keyboard warriors would be the first to run and hide behind a man.I did want to mention one thing about the reason that some feminists might resist taking a firm stance on whether men and women are essentially the same or not. Just go with me for a second and consider it: A lot of the progress that women have made has been very, very hard fought, and if we stop fighting a lot of times we lose ground. It isn't a one-and-done thing right now, it's a frustrating, endless grind. And I'm not complaining about that, because we're worth fighting for. But i get the fe… | /r/AntiFeminists | 18/08/21 11:38 AM |
| 1 | And just like that, feminism is forgotten and men are expected to sacrifice themselves for the women as always. Who would have guessed at the first sign of any real danger these keyboard warriors would be the first to run and hide behind a man.Perfectly said. That's exactly how i feel. It's not like I'm perfect at maintaining those standards, but when I catch myself doing it I make the effort to correct myself. I think that's probably the most important thing, making the effort. Convenient flip-flopping makes everyone look insincere, which makes communication more difficult and progress slower, which really sucks for all of us. | /r/AntiFeminists | 18/08/21 11:22 AM |
| 1 | And just like that, feminism is forgotten and men are expected to sacrifice themselves for the women as always. Who would have guessed at the first sign of any real danger these keyboard warriors would be the first to run and hide behind a man.Lol - it's funny that you mentioned the toxicity thing, because I was just complaining at my husband the other day about how there needs to be awareness raised about "toxic femininity." It definitely exists. Anyway, thank you for telling me all of that. I really, really related to your last paragraph. It sounds like we have some of the same struggles. I experience a lot of the same thoughts and emotions around gender issues. All of your points are valid. Here are a couple thoughts: 1) Imo, part … | /r/AntiFeminists | 18/08/21 07:48 AM |
| 3 | And just like that, feminism is forgotten and men are expected to sacrifice themselves for the women as always. Who would have guessed at the first sign of any real danger these keyboard warriors would be the first to run and hide behind a man.100% agree. And this is the kind of shit that the other person is missing out on. This exchange is why I refuse to give up on you guys and write you off as lost. I've had other good experiences with guys in this sub as well. I've actually learned quite a bit about men's rights issues here that have helped me be a better gender equality advocate, too. I think it's getting harder for people to put themselves in one another's shoes, partly because of how most of us are so isolated into our individu… | /r/AntiFeminists | 18/08/21 06:56 AM |
| 2 | And just like that, feminism is forgotten and men are expected to sacrifice themselves for the women as always. Who would have guessed at the first sign of any real danger these keyboard warriors would be the first to run and hide behind a man.The whole point of my comment was about being aware of the hypocrisy that feminists can sometimes fall into and they're being a hypocrite themselves. Psh...I'm not trying to be the "different girl," I'm trying to be fucking genuine and real. That person seems to be exactly the type I was criticizing! Thanks for the heads up :) Edit: you mentioned they think the sub is close-minded, and I'm interested in what you think about that. This isn't an accusation, it's just curiosity. I participate in th… | /r/AntiFeminists | 18/08/21 06:30 AM |
| 3 | And just like that, feminism is forgotten and men are expected to sacrifice themselves for the women as always. Who would have guessed at the first sign of any real danger these keyboard warriors would be the first to run and hide behind a man.I've gone on to have really productive, positive interactions with several men from this subreddit via private messages that have resulted in both of us learning things. There are specific reasons that I interact with people here. You can do things your way, and I'll do them mine. I'm under no illusions about the typical discourse on this sub, but I'm also not prepared to write off every single man that participates here. It's just not my nature. | /r/AntiFeminists | 18/08/21 04:34 AM |
| 1 | And just like that, feminism is forgotten and men are expected to sacrifice themselves for the women as always. Who would have guessed at the first sign of any real danger these keyboard warriors would be the first to run and hide behind a man.There's nothing "not like other girls" that I'm trying to do here, and I'm pretty insulted that you assumed that. I am well aware that attitudes toward women by and large suck in this subreddit, which is why I make a point to participate here. There is a lot of valid criticism that can be made of feminism as it exists in 2021, and it doesn't threaten me to point that out. I'm very annoyed by double standards such as the one pointed out in this post, and I want these guys to know that women notic… | /r/AntiFeminists | 18/08/21 04:22 AM |
| -1 | Is it a news shocker that FDS degrades men, calling them ,,monsters" and ,,depraved" throwing everyone into one bag. And yet Mgtow was banned for hate spreading?I didn't intend the last sentence to sound negative, although I realize now that it probably did! I was just being flippant about the debates I've seen in several subs about the consequences both genders suffer under the Taliban. Sometimes it looks like it's kinda turning into a debate about who has the more "legitimate" claim to persecution, and I just think that's unhelpful and beside the point. I'll reformulate that last sentence, I'm sorry i sounded like an asshole. | /r/AntiFeminists | 18/08/21 02:27 AM |
| 2 | And just like that, feminism is forgotten and men are expected to sacrifice themselves for the women as always. Who would have guessed at the first sign of any real danger these keyboard warriors would be the first to run and hide behind a man.What does that mean? (I'm starting to get well into middle age and I'm out of most loops, so if it's slang I probably don't know it. Next to go will be my ability to navigate electronics, probably.) | /r/AntiFeminists | 18/08/21 02:02 AM |
| 1 | And just like that, feminism is forgotten and men are expected to sacrifice themselves for the women as always. Who would have guessed at the first sign of any real danger these keyboard warriors would be the first to run and hide behind a man.I don't know what test means - I'm old and out of most loops. | /r/AntiFeminists | 17/08/21 09:21 PM |
| 5 | And just like that, feminism is forgotten and men are expected to sacrifice themselves for the women as always. Who would have guessed at the first sign of any real danger these keyboard warriors would be the first to run and hide behind a man.I think part of the problem is that fundamentalist Islam is notorious for being severely misogynistic, and the ways that men and boys suffer under those same systems aren't talked about enough. It's not as totalitarian and obvious as the suffering women face, but it is undeniably there. You said that any sensible person would try to flee Afghanistan, and I agree. A man wanting to get the fuck out of there isn't a coward whatsoever, in my book. | /r/AntiFeminists | 17/08/21 08:47 PM |
| 14 | And just like that, feminism is forgotten and men are expected to sacrifice themselves for the women as always. Who would have guessed at the first sign of any real danger these keyboard warriors would be the first to run and hide behind a man.Howdy! Feminist female here, just dropping by to let you guys know that I am paying attention to these kind of convenient reversions to patriarchal ideas, and that they piss me off, too. My grandma always told me "What's good for the goose is good for the gander," and that's pretty much how I feel about gender equality. So please know that there are those of us out here who walk the talk. :) Cheers | /r/AntiFeminists | 17/08/21 08:43 PM |
| 0 | Is it a news shocker that FDS degrades men, calling them ,,monsters" and ,,depraved" throwing everyone into one bag. And yet Mgtow was banned for hate spreading?The REAL enemy in this situation are fundamentalist religious beliefs. The appalling, inhumane things the Taliban does to women and men are all being justified by their fundamentalist version of Islam. I strongly believe that all of their crimes against humanity must absolutely be recognized and condemned worldwide, but complaining about which gender is more victimized is missing the point, and it's distracting from the real conversation we should be having about fundamentalist religion. Possibl… | /r/AntiFeminists | 17/08/21 08:37 PM |
| 1 | UK: Women and girls are to get sanctuary in UK: Afghan females will be given priority to come here. OP: But the men left behind who fought against the Taliban will be killed.suicides and homelessness. There appears to be an issue society cannot fix that disproportionately affects men that people rarely talk about or want to fix. The disparity that men face in both areas you mentioned is real and it's shameful that culture has allowed that to continue. One of the factors that created those disparities is our patriarchal culture, which insists that men be "brave," that they be the John Wayne "strong, silent types," that says men who admit they are suffering and men wh… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/21 08:29 PM |
| 0 | UK: Women and girls are to get sanctuary in UK: Afghan females will be given priority to come here. OP: But the men left behind who fought against the Taliban will be killed.I'm hugely sympathetic to the inequalities men face surrounding war and the military, but I'm not sure that this is a great example of that. The women who are able to get sanctuary in the UK were civilians; OP pointed out that the majority of men left behind will have already fought the Taliban. I don't think that this necessarily excuses preference being given to women over men, but I think it does create a gray area about whether they're being evacuated because they are female or because they … | /r/MensRights | 17/08/21 08:21 PM |
| 2 | Title textIt's remarkable that you're still going, and yet i still think hypergamy is bullshit. Dick pics are pathetic af, btw, although I'll give you a nod for being upfront about your insecurities. | /r/AntiFeminists | 16/08/21 01:35 PM |
| 3 | Title textSure, whatever you have to tell yourself to feel better. I don't have any ego involved in this debate, so you're not going to get the argument or hurt feelings you're after. The degree to which you're getting worked up about this has been interesting to observe, though, so I can't say that my time has been entirely wasted. | /r/AntiFeminists | 16/08/21 09:41 AM |
| 5 | Title textWow. Instead of continuing this worthless debate, I think you would get a better understanding of the reality of this issue by trying out your own theory. I encourage you to tell a woman with whom you're barely acquainted that you think about her while you masturbate. I'm sure that it will all work out exactly as you have predicted. Don't forget to come back and give us an update. You also may want to develop a more nuanced understanding of the freedom of speech. | /r/AntiFeminists | 16/08/21 08:30 AM |
| 5 | Title textJerking off while thinking about someone would be a "thought crime." Telling someone that you did so easily rises to the level of verbal harassment. There is a gigantic difference between those two acts, and it's puzzling that you're not seeing that. | /r/AntiFeminists | 16/08/21 06:27 AM |
| 17 | Title textGreat point. It's appalling that male victims of sexual assault are as neglected as they are; it's something that I talk about any time that I have the chance. | /r/AntiFeminists | 16/08/21 03:05 AM |
| 51 | Title textLook, I'm a female, and I think that putting this on par with rape is super insulting. The only way this would even rise to the level of harassment is if the masturbator told someone that he was thinking about them while jerking off. I've rubbed one out thinking of tons of people, and I'm confident that it has caused exactly NO suffering for anyone involved. Bullshit like this only undermines legitimate complaints of sexism by both men and women. | /r/AntiFeminists | 16/08/21 03:02 AM |
| 0 | Why is "fragile masculinity" laughed at?I don't mock it, but it does frustrate me insofar as fragile masculinity is a product of patriarchy, but a lot of men get angry when this is pointed out. Patriarchy is setting entirely unrealistic standards for men that set them up for failure, in the same way that the media's constant objectification of women's bodies sets us up for failure. Criticism of patriarchy is not criticism of men, but criticism of the roles that patriarchy keeps all of us locked into. | /r/MensRights | 15/08/21 11:04 PM |
| 2 | A common response to males committing suicide 3x times as often as women is “That’s because men choose more violent & lethal methods”, with misandrist implications that it’s a result of men being inherently violent. In reality, studies show that even using the same less-lethal methods, men die more.While it's true that men use more violent means of suicide which means they often complete the act, it's terrible that anyone would try to "win" a debate by negating or trivializing the number of men who commit suicide. It's not a competition, ffs! Mental health is an area in which men are severely underserved, and they deserve much, much better than they're currently getting. Being a feminist doesn't mean that I can ignore facts and data in order to prove that women are eternal victims. To me i… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/08/21 10:55 PM |
| 1 | TrollXChromosomes still believes women are being paid less then men for the same job, probably they will even accept 60 just to escape horrors of patriarchy in my company This is what I was trying to say when I mentioned businesses or organizations that focus on women's issues. Avoiding the patriarchy isn't enough to sway every woman into taking less money than her career typically commands. To be competitive, an all-female company would still have to offer competitive salaries. Their salary range might be a little bit lower, but not as drastic as the scenario above. This is ju… | /r/AntiFeminists | 12/08/21 07:21 PM |
| 1 | TrollXChromosomes still believes women are being paid less then men for the same jobI would imagine that a company entirely staffed by women would still need to remain competitive and would pay similarly to any other. I don't think they could really get away with paying less across the board. An exception would probably be companies or NGOs or whatever that focused specifically on women's issues, in which case I could see women voluntarily accepting lower pay. | /r/AntiFeminists | 12/08/21 04:12 PM |
| 1 | Could memes be a good way of getting younger people back to sanity?They're surprisingly influential, so I don't see why not. It's an interesting idea - I like it! | /r/AntiFeminists | 10/05/21 12:59 AM |
| 3 | BasedWoman here, and I agree with this. We all have our own preferences, and there's nothing wrong with that. I think the woman in the picture is referring to the message that women receive from society, which says that women must guard/value/preserve their virginity, and that those women who don't are defiled/used or damaged goods/sluts, etc. | /r/AntiFeminists | 10/05/21 12:53 AM |
| 1 | BasedI'm a woman, and I cannot count the number of times I've heard other women warn me or warn each other about players. It happens all the time. It's so common that I'm surprised this belief is a thing. | /r/AntiFeminists | 10/05/21 12:48 AM |
| 3 | BasedI'm a female, and this does not match my experience at all - to the extent that I'm surprised that this is "a thing." I'm trying to go back through my memory, and I'm fairly certain that I've never had an acquaintance that holds the opinion that promiscuous men are preferable. If the topic comes up, guys who are known players are spoken negatively about. An example is a scenario where, say, two friends are having a drink somewhere, one of them says a certain guy is hot, her friend says something… | /r/AntiFeminists | 10/05/21 12:45 AM |
| 7 | My list of studies showing we care more about women than men.People who classify groups as oppressed and privileged cannot make unbiased judgements about privileged groups even when they think they should. I appreciate the links you provided and have already learned some new things. I wanted to point out the title of this link and how it applies to this exact post as well. It's a big-picture reminder for all of us that no one is free from bias, and that we should try to stay flexible and open-minded as much as we can. That mindset makes it easier to convi… | /r/MensRights | 09/05/21 09:34 PM |
| 5 | My list of studies showing we care more about women than men.I had some coins left so I awarded the post for you :) | /r/MensRights | 09/05/21 09:29 PM |
| 12 | Feminist “equality” in rape crimesSame thing this woman thought! And we (meaning society as a whole) must stop shaming men who come forward as victims of sexual assault. | /r/AntiFeminists | 23/04/21 04:19 AM |
| 0 | Are a lot of mental health issue due to the way society associates worth with physical attractiveness?Thanks for the kind words! It's alright, really. I'm vastly better than I used to be. We all have our own battles, we all have some bullshit in our lives, the eating disorder just so happens to be mine! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/21 01:28 AM |
| 1 | Female Hypergamy is the most taboo phenomenon in American society, despite being empirically provenNothing about the hypergamy issue has any resonance with me whatsoever. Maybe I'm the exception to the rule, but it doesn't have much if anything in common with the way I decide who I'm going to date. Granted, I've been with my husband for 11 yrs now, but when I met him (in an AA mtg) he was 34, unemployed, and lived with his parents. I've read about hypergamy, but it just isn't realistic for me at all. I can only speak for myself here, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/21 01:16 AM |
| 1 | Are a lot of mental health issue due to the way society associates worth with physical attractiveness?I've been struggling with an eating disorder for 13 years, and society's obsession with appearances has definitely been a factor in why I developed the ED in the first place and why it's been so, so fucking hard to get over it. I've been bulimic for 10 of those 13 years, and, while I rarely do any bulimic behaviors, the thinking feels almost impossible to overcome. I will be doing fine for awhile, but there is always a time when I've just eaten a meal or something (the sensation of being full is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/21 01:08 AM |
| 2 | Honest questionYou have valid points. There are some women that use feminism as a dog leaf for their hatred of men. I've read shitty, hateful things that have been directed at men who didn't deserve it. That shit really happens, it's not something you're making up! And i also know that you likely can't tell who you might be talking to, which "type" of woman she is, you know? I'm trying to think of a good way to describe what goes on in the feminist subs. You have your shitbags, you have your lurkers, there are… | /r/AntiFeminists | 16/04/21 11:40 AM |
| 0 | Honest questionThanks :) I'm stubborn. I don't know how to convince them that I'm not lying, and this might be a final hail mary...I just want to connect with one of them on a real level. They can disagree with me, but if they can disagree respectfully then I want to listen to what they have to say. I refuse to believe these guys are lost. I'm know the kind of things they say when they're trolling, but I want to hear their real thoughts. Their individual complaints, their viewpoints. And I want to be the best,… | /r/AntiFeminists | 16/04/21 10:11 AM |
| 1 | Honest questionI do. I talk to people about men's rights issues. I challenge people when they say sexist shit about either gender. Two things though: 1) I've noticed that I'm way more likely to notice misogyny than I am misandry, which I think is just a function of me being female and being more vigilant about that. 2) You are literally the only man who has responded to my expression of support with the slightest bit of respect - and I thank you for that. I'm speaking to you in good faith, so that's not exagge… | /r/AntiFeminists | 16/04/21 09:08 AM |
| 6 | Honest questionRight here. I actually think it's insulting to women and unjust for men. Whoever makes more should pay the other, period. | /r/AntiFeminists | 16/04/21 06:33 AM |
| 3 | If you're pro-choice due to bodily autonomy, you can't demand paternal child-support, or object to child neglectI strongly disagree with you. There isn't a correlation between gestating a fetus and having a job; I'm not saying one is harder or worse than the other, I'm just saying that those two things are so different that a comparison isn't possible. Gestating and giving birth to a fetus is much more invasive than having a career and paying child support; having a career is a much longer proposition and it also requires sacrifice and dedication. Gestating a fetus only takes 9 months, but it takes 24/7 e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/21 05:00 AM |
| 0 | LTR on her phone under the bed covers.Don't go straight to the accusation first, just ask her why she's under the covers. Constantly being suspicious of someone and accusing them of cheating/thinking about cheating etc is a great way to make them actually get out and cheat on you out of spite. | /r/askTRP | 10/02/21 03:59 AM |
| 3 | Male VulnerabilityGood deal. I agree with your last statement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 03:57 AM |
| 3 | Male Vulnerability>I treat all my women with respect but I dont kiss ass because I'm not desperate for vagina Seeing sex as transactional and something that you have to modify your behavior to obtain isn't really respecting women. Sex isn't something that you just get once you have ticked all the imaginary boxes; that sets you up to think that you are owed sex, which is never true. Also, the idea that you have to alter your behavior (kissing ass) to get a woman to sleep with you is pretty dishonest and manipulati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 03:47 AM |
| 2 | Male VulnerabilityThis is one of my soapbox issues!! Society puts an intense amount of pressure on men to hide their emotions. Being the "strong, silent type," the protector, the voice of logic and reason are traits pushed forward as "masculine." Men are made to think that being vulnerable, expressing emotion, asking for help, etc make them less masculine, and they get that messaging reinforced all the time. It's incredibly unfair and unhealthy for men. They've been so inundated with that narrative that they sham… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 03:33 AM |
| -2 | true datOf course I do. I like to check in with the other side frequently to make sure that I actually agree with what I say I believe, and I've changed my mind on things more than once. Just because I have opinions contrary to yours or those typically held by this sub doesn't mean that I can't be persuaded by good arguments and data. | /r/AntiFeminists | 07/02/21 08:05 PM |
| -4 | true datI joined this sub in the hopes of getting an opposing perspective on feminism, broadening my horizons, and gaining some understanding of the resentment of feminism. Instead this sub is just a bunch of cringey memes and justifications for bad behavior/attitudes. It doesn't really help your cause at all. If you want to change things, this sub isn't going to do anything than make it difficult for people to take your POV seriously. | /r/AntiFeminists | 07/02/21 07:29 PM |
| -2 | A very interesting interview of John Peterson exploring issues like gender pay gap, masculinity, equality of opportunity vs equality of outcome and transgenderism.Oh wow, I'm sorry that you've been so inconvenienced by the expectation that everyone be treated equally. It's a concept embedded in the foundation of the US, so if you're an American you may want to consider other countries with less lofty ideals. The phenomenon of white males taking up the mantle of victimhood and oppression in America has been really galling and shameful to witness, and it's a mockery of true democracy. You feel bullied and controlled because white people (especially white Ch… | /r/AntiFeminists | 08/01/21 05:35 PM |
| -7 | A very interesting interview of John Peterson exploring issues like gender pay gap, masculinity, equality of opportunity vs equality of outcome and transgenderism.I would take your point ever so slightly seriously if you'd managed to get Peterson's name right. This is emblematic of the garbage logic and baseless arguments typically used by the right to attack civil rights movements. Well done. | /r/AntiFeminists | 08/01/21 04:17 PM |
| -1 | Why is nobody talking about how sexist the phrase “pick me girl” isEvery idealogue is a hypocrite; that's where black and white thinking takes you. It doesn't matter for what they are demagoguing. You seem to take my mention of the patriarchy as some kind of personal insult, or a slam against all men. It is neither. It exists in most western societies, and, if you would think things through, it harms men as well as women. You're likely threatened by the concept of the patriarchy because to admit its reality would mean having to reevaluate some of your fundament… | /r/AntiFeminists | 08/12/20 10:49 PM |
| 1 | Why is nobody talking about how sexist the phrase “pick me girl” isI try to avoid demagogues in general, no matter what they're espousing. They're exhausting, they're narrow-minded, and they can't defend their positions for shit, in my experience. Nothing in life is either all one thing or all the other. Crappy logic. | /r/AntiFeminists | 08/12/20 10:34 PM |
| -1 | Why is nobody talking about how sexist the phrase “pick me girl” isBack in the day, men's rights activists worked closely with feminists. I wish that would come back - we'd all get a lot more accomplished. | /r/AntiFeminists | 08/12/20 10:08 PM |
| 2 | Why is nobody talking about how sexist the phrase “pick me girl” isIt would be very subjective, dependent upon who you're asking. When I think of a man with "high value," money and looks aren't important categories, but they may be the only metrics other (shallow) women use. | /r/AntiFeminists | 08/12/20 10:06 PM |
| -3 | Why is nobody talking about how sexist the phrase “pick me girl” isHypocrisy is a human attribute and not strictly limited to feminists. For example, I grew up in a large evangelical Christian family, and they have revealed themselves to be tremendous hypocrites. Also, it would be difficult for a feminist to be completely free of hypocrisy, as all women grow up in a patriarchy and have internalized a lot of that thinking. It's something I struggle to be aware of and combat. | /r/AntiFeminists | 08/12/20 10:03 PM |
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