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Is that the most relevant example you can think of? The white feather movement was in England over 100 years ago during World War One. The movement also cause a big rift among suffragettes. Women more recently have been pretty active in anti-war movements. And some were even fairly prominent. Like… are you really sure you want to look back to the 1910s to describe modern sexism from women? Do you equally volunteer male behavior from 1915 to describe modern men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:19 PM
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Never seen it. You’ve really never even seen a man say that finding a date is trivially easy for any woman? And that any woman who isn’t swamped with male attention must be an “obese land whale” or a deformed ugly bitch or lying? I honestly do not believe you, because that literally happened right here in this very thread that you’re responding to. I said I was ignored by men for a decade, and the dude called me a liar for it, because he thinks it’s impossible for any woman who is more attractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 11:21 AM
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Maybe. But likewise, women get an endless stream of men telling them that if they don’t have dozens of men chasing them, they’re worthless ugly swamp creatures. Or that they’re lying. It’s pretty clear at least some bitter terminally online men want to go way out of their way to be as fucking mean as possible to any woman who isn’t hot. Is being called worthless for not having tons of sexual attention better for women somehow? I don’t see any logical reason why it would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:13 PM
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assuming you’re even telling the truth Bad faith, but the norm for the cynical woman-hating crowd around here. You wouldn’t have dated me, either dude. I was surrounded by men and they always pursued other women. Not me. But this is just more of you hoping that women like me will be ground into the dirt— when I say it wasn’t horrible, you jump up to declare that it’s not good enough. You want me, and any other woman, to be crushed and humiliated… and anything shy of that is “well, a little sad i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:00 AM
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Dude, I went years without any male interest. It’s really not the horrifying torture you want it to be. Yeah, I felt unwanted and yeah,it was a little sad sometimes. But likewise, it was good not to deal with the scary attention, the manipulation, and the fake lying bullshit that some women get. I know it means you desperately hope I’ve been “HUMBLED” and you want me to hate myself and feel like I’m ugly and don’t deserve love. But I don’t. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:32 AM
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Sorry for worrying you. You’re “sorry” for worrying me, but you also think that, since I am a woman, I’m an inherently evil don’t deserve friends, and am an animal abuser. ??? But yeah, I am genuinely worried about your mental health. I’m not trying to insult you. I mean that your words are actually genuinely lacking in connection with reality or compassion. So I parrot things I read online that seem to make sense. No, you still aren’t even willing to say honestly what you actually mean. I mean …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 12:08 PM
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Don’t pretend like you give a shit about the health or well-being of women. You prefer them to suffer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:48 AM
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I am aware of the incel-forum dogpill insanity. What I wanted is for him to reveal his own profound and alien porn-brained degeneracy in text to the thread, rather than hiding behind his 4chan dog whistles.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:28 AM
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tradcons I grew up in a tradcon area and went to church as a child. I am more than aware of what traditional conservatives think of traditional women: they see traditional women as pretty and nude and soft… and also as inferior servants who owe their husband submission. They view women as fundamentally lesser, incompetent creatures that need male guidance and control. Go to X and you will see the thirst posting and worshipping at the altar of tradwives and wifejak. I already said I agree these m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:23 AM
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"You" was referring to Woman I know The word "you" does not mean "these women I know". If you wanted to talk about women you know, you could have said "these women I know" instead of "you". BUT your own preferences described here are not a universal preference among women Neither are the preferences of the women you know. and are actually probably uncommon among them. MOST women today work full time jobs even if they are moms. So your expectation is: women work full time and also do all the chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:11 AM
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You can't also want or even demand the supplementary income provided by his labor Did I stutter? I said it is valuable for a man to spend time with his kids and I fucking meant it. work full time in large part so that their father will be able to spend time with their kids. You do not get to make up lies about my values just to call me a hypocrite. I consider him doing some shit to some rental house way the fuck less valuable than actually being there for his kids. I do not want to be with a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:24 AM
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No, women should have friends. The end. It’s way better for everyone- kids, society, men, women. What’s even worse are the women who dote upon large male dogs, for obvious reasons. Huh? What obvious reasons are you talking about? Explain it in words please, not some dog-whistle weirdo hints. Be specific about what you are saying, so everyone understands clearly what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:36 PM
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Is this PPD’s first actual Talibani official auto-translate post?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:34 PM
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Not having direct father-child care time is a massive, massive loss for the kids. You’re really underestimating the value of having a present, involved father when you compare it to renovating a rental property to be a richer landlord. urban numales “Numales” sounds like some kind of Rush Limbaugh mocking emasculating term for men who actually give a shit about knowing their kids names.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 12:06 PM
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No, I said the appearance of aptitude. And the military, politics, religion— all things that men created— demonstrate otherwise. Men will generally assume aptitude based maleness plus a title and will submit to those authorities even without any appearance of aptitude. I just think men view women with suspicion and defensiveness. And it reflects in how they respond to them. It’s not suspicion or defensiveness— men are not afraid of women. Historically, men were very clear that they simply viewed…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:14 AM
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Your argument is that men are logical and respond to competence, while painting women as dumb creatures too emotional and illogical to understand that a fat personal trainer might not be viewed as the most competent. You seem to not recognize irony very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 09:15 PM
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Men respond to the perception of aptitude. They have to be impressed. Titles don't mean anything on their own, it's what the title implies. Politics, the military, and every corporate everything shows otherwise: men will submit to a mere title eagerly. In addition, one of the big failures of modern trad men is that they expect deference and submission from women based on merely having the title “male”, rather than based on competence. They expect a woman to marry some trad asshole then defer to …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:29 PM
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No. Why do you keep guessing and asking me leading questions about things I pretty clearly didn’t say or imply? You commented about “young love” and I said ok, but he described what he’s looking for, and It isn’t “young love”. I stated a fact about how he described his relationship. I did not say he is wrong to want what he wants— you are making up a moral judgement and putting that on me. I did not say anything whatsoever that could possibly imply it is “wrong” for him not to chase after a whit…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:35 PM
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Young love is definitely a far less hard deadline than the biological clock. But likewise, OP isn’t particularly looking for love or young love. He states that he is looking for anything that is just more enjoyable than being single in the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:44 PM
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It doesn’t. Did you notice I said this? she lost a very important fraction of very limited time learning from hers. Meaning “her mistakes”. Not his. If she wanted marriage, then it’s her responsibility to ask. She didn’t do too bad, though — she bailed after just 1 year when she found out he wasn’t interested. That’s taking responsibility. Why do you think I’m putting the onus of communicating entirely on him, exactly? I’m doing the opposite. I’m just explaining why the two scenarios are differe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:20 PM
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One reason these two things are really different is that you can find casual sex for the rest of your life, but a woman looking for marriage and kids is on a much more restricted clock. When you missed out of fucking the girls you wanted in high school, you sill have the whole rest of your life to find pussy. When your backup Becky dated you for a year, she lost 5-10% of her remaining available years to have a family. So yeah, the difference is you losing out on your high school bang was not a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:30 PM
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Tbh, it’s even more specific: preferences that explicitly include the dude complaining, and also explicitly exclude all or nearly all other men. In other words, the only way to avoid criticism from these men is to be an absolute total teenage virgin, but also immediately rip off your skirt and begin fellating him the moment you see him specifically. Anything other than that exact behavior, and these red pill perpetually onliners will be mad at you and claim you’re “destroying civilization”.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:33 PM
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His post also shows he’s never actually interacted with women without his petty biases clouding his vision. Like, notice he slipped in the little “women are illogical under pressure” nugget… like dude has never even been to a hospital and seen nurses and doctors at work. I suspect he thinks it’s “illogical” every time he sees a hot woman dating someone who isn’t him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:19 AM
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I am sad the em-dash is considered a genAI tell. It’s such a practical punctuation for internet comments! :( Thanks ChatGPT for ruining a cool thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:39 AM
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Corporations and rich people have no incentive to fire half of their functional useful employees based solely on their sex organs. It does not benefit them. And as for male workers boycotting all companies who employ women… boycotts are simply not effective. And from the perspective of capital, there is no value in halving the workforce— a suddenly extremely restricted labor supply will mean they will have to pay substantially more money for each position… and they will have half as many potenti…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 07:16 PM
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Why would they be pissed off by that? They want a cheap and functional product or service. The origin of the labor is barely ever considered. Like I’m genuinely struggling to understand how you think this would work. You think men will just… unify into a cohesive political unit and stop spending any money unless all women completely vanish from the workplace?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 04:41 PM
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Companies will hire single women for being productive cogs in the machine. They do not care one bit about the feelings of male employees. They will always fire any employees who cannot be productive— that includes men who throw tantrums and refuse to function if there’s a female within 30 feet of them, lol. Even in the age of discrimination against women, factories were happy to hire single women. It was always partnered women they wanted to ditch for having babies and becoming less available fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 04:20 PM
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You assume my worldview is incoherent because you’re too busy coming up with bratty insulting nicknames to actually read. I pay taxes for things that don’t benefit be directly because I benefit from the overall functioning of society. Selfishly declaring that it’s just too unfair for you to pay taxes unless all the money goes to you personally is an unbelievably childish mentality. Grow up, kiddo. You started giving me unwarranted recommendations (you shouldn't have kids, blablabla) Because your…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 04:18 PM
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Remove from law any intervention that forces employers to accept someone they don't want to hire (single women). This doesn’t work the way you think. It’s actually married women, and especially mothers, that employers do not want. Removing the laws you dislike will actually strongly pressure women to avoid pairing with men with this kind of incentive structure, because if they date with any seriousness, they will be punished extremely strongly. You will force women to only strictly choose betwee…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:57 PM
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You can't owe "human decency". Owing means I have to do it, otherwise the government will punish me… There is no mechanism for enforcing "human decency" because there is no clear definition of what it looks like. You can morally owe people decency, and everyone else in society will hate you and punish you for failing to meet that basic obligation. People who are horrible are not welcomed as friends or as romantic partners by the overwhelming majority of decent people. The mechanism of enforcemen…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:36 PM
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I've had lug studs break off before because of overtightening 🫠 well that sucks!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 09:21 PM
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Tire rotation? Also a pain in the ass considering the business I bought the tires from has an automatic lift and will do it for free. Not to mention how tight they auto crank the lugs on the tires. If a shop screwed them on with a pneumatic gun, it’s often too hard to do by hand yourself with standard tools. And before anyone comes @ me with “haha women are so pathetic and weak that’s why you need men you fucking worthless females”: my dad complained about this when he had a flat. He was pretty …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 02:27 PM
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Don’t shove words in my mouth I don’t support that either I generally assume most people support some level of government, which inherently requires some kind of taxes or contributions from the people in society. The overwhelming majority of people are not self-sequestered hermits… and obviously those people using the internet (a technology developed using American tax dollars, remember) are not morally opposed to consuming other people’s tax dollars. But your claim is that you oppose the existe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 02:18 PM
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I agree you should have to pay per kid if we’re valuing individual freedom and bodily autonomy. Do you support zero taxes and zero government? Or only paying taxes for things that support violence like the military and police, like most libertarians? This is irrelevant, my parents paid into a system So did many many other people who were not your parents. Many of them did not have children themselves and still paid their taxes. It’s 100% relevant that you climbed the ladder but want to pull the …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:20 PM
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Like somehow men can understand the concept of regular maintenance on cleaning and detailing his vehicle, but not his house? A man like that cares about his vehicle because it brings him status. He doesn’t care about his house, because that’s all just lowly woman shit, and it’s her job to clean up after him. His time and hobbies are important; her time is his to waste. There are way too many men who have zero respect for a woman doing housework for him. To them, doing housework is a sign of fail…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:42 PM
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If you actually believe in "nobody owes anyone anything" So please tell me where you think I said this? There are a number of things people owe to each other: basic human decency, not committing crimes against them, taxes, paying back in to the society they extract from. And what specific thing do you think I owe you for you paying your taxes? when men complain about systematic issues that prevent them from entering into relationships Oh right. You think you paying taxes means that women should …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:37 PM
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if you're a single man paying taxes for single mothers Why so much hate for single moms, but not for their lazy slut baby daddies? and public schooling is just cuckoldry with extra steps Total anti-civilization brain rot position, seriously. And why is it only “cuckoldry” for single men to have to pay for other men’s kids, but not childless women or women with children or married men with children ? Why aren’t they all “cuckolds” for supporting other men’s children? Is a woman with 2 kids a cuck…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:49 AM
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Whose children? Human children. I don't support paying taxes for other people's children because remember that "nobody owes anything to anyone", right? Gotcha. You don’t care about civilization or the society you live in. You want to live in some dumb John Gault “every man for himself” greed-is-the-only-virtue, selfish take take take hellscape Hard pass for me. Other people's children don't owe me anything It is a fact that they consume your taxes whether you want them to or not. So what benefit…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:51 AM
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who the primary beneficiaries of taxes are and you will realize that "bodily autonomy" and "nobody owes anything to anyone" is only brought up when we talk about romance Ok, it’s pretty clear you think paying money in taxes is good, and doing anything else that doesn’t make money is bad. Taking that into account… Children are net drains on your taxes and do not put money in. They are total leeches on the system for nearly 2 decades at a minimum. What specific acts do you believe children owe you…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:24 PM
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Here’s my incredibly wild unfounded bullshit evo psych cockamamie navel-gazing explanation! It was evolutionarily very valuable for a woman to be able to identify a man who would be caring, attentive, and considerate to her in case she got pregnant. So female orgasm was something that evolved as a filter. Women who orgasmed easily with basically any man would have babies with men who didn’t care about them and wouldn’t support their kids… so lots more of these kids didn’t make it. Meanwhile, wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:14 PM
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When I was single and didn’t have kids, a single dad was a very hard “no”. I was not interested in assuming the role of second to a kid I couldn’t discipline and would just say “you’re not my mom”. Plus, it’s just not worth it to try to figure out what he did wrong in his first marriage… or worse, if he had kids outside of marriage. I acknowledge divorce always has two sides. But I fortunately didn’t have to settle like this. and I’d also be suspicious why he’s trying to get an inexperienced wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 12:34 PM
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No, my friends are not saint. I mean, yeah. Like, if she’s knowingly dating a married man… she’s really really not actually a nice girl. One of my best friends’ friends from college was completely distraught that she had gone on a few dates with a man who was married— she broke up with him the instant she found out about the marriage. I think she is probably a pretty decent person because, when things got tough, she made the morally right choice and ended it on the spot. Like, yeah the man your …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:03 PM
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Some of them make pretty "bad" decisions in dating. You put the word “bad” in quotes here for a reason. How bad are they? Are they evil violent rapist men? Or are they the kind of normal guy you’d be friends with? Are all of your male and female friends saints? And how long were they with these guys? And do you make only perfect ideal judgements of who to date and never ever ask out women who are mean assholes? People don’t always judge other people perfectly, and sometimes make poor choices. Hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:10 PM
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They are "normal" women in a sense that they look normal and interact with people normally. Just like rapists and murderers are “normal” men in the sense that they look normal and interact with people normally. But they are not “normal” women, as in “all women are like that”, just as most men are not violent rapist murderers, etc. Talking about how unfair it is that evil rapist murderer men get girlfriends is failing to recognize that those women are broken evil shits. It isn’t “unfair” that an …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:23 PM
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It’s not “behavior we don’t like”, it’s actually terrible evil bad behavior! Yes, I can indeed call a woman a bad person for knowingly supporting a murderer! You really can’t even bring yourself to say that women who knowingly support serial murderers are bad people? This is the kind of crap “women are wonderful” is actually talking about. Even when the woman is an evil fucking psychopath, you guys are like “oh, but she’s pretty and female, she couldn’t possibly be a bad person!” Like dude… lear…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 11:41 AM
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She just answered you already. Are you trying not to read?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:36 PM
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He’s doing all that for hot women he likes. He ignores the women who aren’t super hot. There is no possible amount of work any normal average woman could ever do that would make him consider her. He only wants his pornographic fantasy women. Why put in work that isn’t valued or appreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:30 PM
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It sounds scary and dangerous to sell sex The best stats I’ve seen (it’s hard to gather obviously) suggest prostitution in the US is a lot more dangerous than any male-dominated profession.. (Apologies for formatting issues— there’s some kind of reddit update and I can’t see almost of what I’m typing to correct errors. I hope they revert this trashy buggy pop-up comment windo).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:32 PM
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The survival rates of male-only lines vs female-only lines is not proof that women only date Chad historically. A whole lot of that was that male lines were systematically extinguished in war, while the female line was married out-of-clan and distributed farther. You know, cuz humans are fucking violent. There is no historical evidence that thousands of years ago women were all slutting it up with cave-chad and refusing to marry pocket-protector cave nerds.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:28 PM
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What kind of "conversation" were you hoping for with "I should just start seeing women as inferior"? Like, what brilliant conversation do you think that "hypothetical" was supposed to provoke? I'm now curious what words you were hoping to get out of me with such a disingenuous attempt to blame me for your beliefs. Maybe this is more of that "male accountability" red pill keeps bragging about?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:09 AM
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Almost as if you can be meek and shy AND a violent misogynist all at the same time. And so what if he hypothetically would get love letters from absolute shit women? Whyyyyy are you guys so absolutely into these trash tier women. Seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:06 AM
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“Women as a group” means almost all women if not every single one of them. Sorry, buddy, but no matter how hard you want to wallow in your victim complex, but the actual majority of women are actually not rape victims, or dating serial killers, or getting abused. And how totally not surprising you want to blame rape victims for being forced. Like yeah, fucking duh, the dude who raped 100 women has more rape victims than the dude who doesn’t. Wtf is wrong with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 10:26 PM
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So I should just start seeing women as the inferior sex lol, dude you already do. Nobody who actually sees women as equals would whine “maybe I should just view women as inferiors because you disagree with my pet cult program”.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 10:19 PM
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He wants them as options because he wants them as options It does not make any sense to want an option you do not want. It’s entirely illogical. “I want this thing I absolutely I don’t want and am totally disgusted by !!!”— said nobody sane ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 05:48 PM
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Is glossophobia considered a mental illness? Hybristophilia is considered a paraphilia… where the para prefix means abnormal. Apologies if there’s any formatting… I don’t know what Reddit’s update is on my phone, but I can’t see what I’m editing half the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 05:43 PM
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I have already been informed dahmer was gay. Changes nothing: the others weren’t gay and women avoided them. And no, OP said that women all universlly prefer violent men over nice shyer men. Not “occassionally a totally broken psycho woman will fall in love with a broken psycho man from afar”. You’re trying real hard to steel man his argument, but he said what he said.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 05:41 PM
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He accused all women of preferring violent genuinely evil men over decent shy men, and he used psycho women who chase serial killers as his example of how he thinks women behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 05:39 PM
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Yeah, that’s also part of the issue. Child abuse and child sexual abuse are genuine plagues.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 04:58 PM
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He does not believe normal women exist. He accuses all women of being hybristophiliacs… contrary to any real world evidence you could present. If he does not believe boring normal women who like decent men exist, it is only natural to conclude that he is attracted to the only women he thinks exist. Again, unless he’s gay or asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 04:58 PM
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>Sorry that any any all references to females being as imperfect a human being as men are is so utterly an impossible fact for you. 🙄 I have no problem admitting women are not perfect. I have a problem with braindead claims that all women are psycho-evil-bitches who all want bad boys. Look around the real world: most women aren't doing this shit, just like most men aren't psycho killers. >Because her equally morally bankrupt accomplices found her "irresistible" is in no way the same It's totally…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 03:51 PM
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I agree that you are allowed to have wrong opinions I have never wanted to write to a serial killer, nor have I ever fucked or dated a trash evil man. Your opinions are just wrong. But you are totally free to have dumb opinions that contradict reality if you want. And I am free to point to the facts that show your feelings are not accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 03:06 PM
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https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14789949.2019.1588911 Yes. Men can also by hybristophiliacs. Sorry to break your “men are wonderful, women are rotten evil slugs” beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 03:01 PM
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It is not character assassination. It is an observation of behavior. He is so hyperfocuesed on terrible women that he denies that any woman exist who are not terrible. Me pointing that out isn’t manipulative. It’s being observant of the deep irony. Also I apologize if this is the 3rd time I responded to you. The web portal seems to have had some kind of update that makes it nearly impossible to post comments. It’s absolute dogshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 03:00 PM
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This phenomena is so common that mental health diagnosis actually gives it a name ..... hybristophilia. The fact it has a mental health name means it is actually rare, not universal. There are names for diseases that have only ever affected a single patient on record. But it is telling that OP finds these deeply broken women to be the most appealing. However, her popularity with any/all men stopped cold the very day she was exposed as a killer As far as I can tell from online, no. She still rece…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 01:13 PM
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Easy. Because they are the women he is hyperfocused on. He doesn’t give a single shit about the boring women who avoid rotten men like the plague. Literally a majority of women have never been abused (and many women who were abused had no choice, since they were children at the time). He doesn't have any interest in the women who choose better. He does not even acknowledge they exist, brah. It’s clear he only has eyes for the bad girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 01:06 PM
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Well, considering OP wants to date the worst women alive, I don’t see why he thinks he has the moral high ground. There’s loads of women who do not want to date evil Tor asshole men, and choose not to. OP does not want the nice women who won’t put up with that shit though, because he wants the kind of bad girl who will let him abuse them. And as for fucking rapists… dude the whole way they “get” these women is through force. Did the definition of rape elude you or something? Women are not choosi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 01:02 PM
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lol, fair. I just did a quick google ai and didn’t check carefully, and I don’t exactly keep a facebook on serial killers. You’re right, he was gay and murdered men. Also, seriously fuck Reddit’s new comment interface for preventing me from being able to select more than one word at a time. And for moving the window half offscreen half the time so I can’t see what I type. Total trash update (or A/B test, if they’re slow rolling this one). Buggy as fuck, if you Reddit devs are actually monitoring…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 12:59 PM
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Reddit has changed the comment interface on cell/mobile, and if SUUUUCKKKS. It doesn’t let you select more than one word now, so if you wanna copy or delete anything, you have to taptaptaptaptaptaptaptaptaptaptaptaptaptap the delete instead. Sooooooo bad. Thank you for listening to my off topic rant.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 12:29 PM
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Ted Bundy, Paul Bernardo, Toy Box Killer… you are cherry picking. Elliot Rogers, David Berkowitz, Ed Gein, Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Kaczinski. All struggled desperately with women. There’s even a specific case when a serial killer went on a dating show, and the woman totally avoided just one date with the guy, he was so friggin creepy. You, like many black pill guys are making up a little narrative so you can wallow in self-pity and self righteousness… all while absolutely desperately wishing you cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:39 AM
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And yet in spite of childbirth and breastfeeding both causing the woman’s body to be flooded with far more oxytocin than any sexual encounter, the “pair bonding” crowd does not ever claim that oxytocin in those cases cause a woman to loose a pair bond with the father of her child. Nor do they claim that women are capable of pair bonding only with their first child, but then cease to be able to love any children after the first. The “oxytocin burnout” theory red pillers have for why women should …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 12:48 PM
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You can't compare male attractiveness to female attractiveness one to one You also cannot compare male and female attractiveness due to career/status/strength/size/height/whatever because men are attracted to these things differently than women are. Yet the “women are hypergamous” crowd you’re defending insists that women are inferior to their partners based on those more masculine attraction metrics anyways. Why do you judge women to be inferior to their partners based on career status when men…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:07 PM
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I dunno? Like, if I were still me but as a man (which doesn’t make any sense, since I would not be me as a man)… but whatever, I’m sure I’d be a pathetic fucking unwanted loser in romance, just like I am as a woman. I’m very mediocre in looks, and according to the men here, that is all that matters as a woman. It’s enough to make me a complete failure. But if I take my male relatives as an example, they seem to do fine with women. So looks wise, I’d probably be okay. Not peak Chad megaslut perfo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:50 PM
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I also do not think being dominant in the context of a relationship means being an abusive violent asshole. Your literal next sentence after that was describing the fact that you think you have to be dangerous: I have to dangerous without being threatening. Like. No. You don’t have to be dangerous. Some women want you to be violent to others, but you need to take responsibility and pick better women. All I was saying is that the social expectation for men to all be dominant is one I don't partic…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 12:11 PM
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Humans are capable of many other emotions other than just spite. Why assume the worst by default, just because they are women? Why is it you assume that the only reason a woman won’t ask you out is because she deliberately wants to hurt your feelings? This line of thought (from OP) is just so self-centered— it assumes everything anyone does is all about your feelings. All it is is wallowing in made-up victimhood. No, a woman not asking you out doesn’t mean she’s trying to spite you. Just because…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 12:06 PM
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I agree men were legally allowed to be terrible and were not punished for bad behavior. That was not a standard set by women. Women did not want to be beaten and murdered, no matter how much you fantasize they they love being abused. Women always had the standard that men should treat them kindly, and the church taught that men should be like Christ. You are delusional to think that women were begging to be killed, dude. Actually no. I think it's so horribly cruel and unfair that feminists conti…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 12:03 AM
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Most women say people told them things or "taught them" and they NEVER did Ok, blah blah blah. You telling me you know all about the lives of other women changes nothing. I told you literally exactly what I was taught, and you’re still “but other women just made up what they learned just to spite me”. Like ok, whatever dude. I don’t care about your conspiracy theories. Taking responsibility is fine, but blaming people you think "taught" you is not the way 🙄 Still so dishonest. I didn’t blame any…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:25 PM
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But why did you continue to take it? I didn’t. I learned and changed over time. Which I already said multiple times. Can’t you read? Or do you just not understand accountability? And notice how the goal posts changed: first it was “nobody told you this”, but now it’s “why weren’t you born knowing every fucking thing under the sun, hmmm???” Fucking ridiculous 🤡 Studies already show women are extremely risk averse (obviously, look around) and the reason: Exactly what I predicted you’d do: lie abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 05:04 PM
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It is so profoundly, childishly, self-centered. The world revolves around them, in their heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 04:51 PM
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How is it weird when spite and malice are consistently part of their interactions with women. It is not. Your self-pitying cynicism is not an objective measure of reality. The initial claim is that women are not asking men out out of pure spite: you seriously somehow believe that women are simply refusing to jump on your collective dicks because they want to hurt men’s feelings. I cannot fathom being this self centered that you think someone simply living their life somehow all about *you*, lol.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 04:50 PM
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That's not a core belief of the red pill at all. “Hypergamy” is absolutely a core red pill belief. No matter what talents she has, no matter what skills or what features, red pill says that if she fucks a man, it means she is inferior to him. Because she is hypergamous, it must mean he’s better than her. Yes it’s a dumb circular sexist belief. It is also red pill at its core. Now, if you said women naturally want a man that is superior to them Exactly— there is no talent, no skill, no feature th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 04:45 PM
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No, I was taught by religion and religious conservative parents that women are supposed to be submissive. Not “society”. And I literally did take responsibility for my beliefs and change. But you will not acknowledge that because it doesn’t fit your “women are all stupid ” narrative. So just go off and enjoy your little circle jerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 04:38 PM
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Taught by who and how exactly? My parents and religion. Literally I already told you religion in the prior comment. Why are you confused? Women are told to be passive and submissive to men— they are told very explicitly that leadership from women is the path to pride and falling into hell. My sisters told me this years ago Ok, that’s nice for you. I’m telling you directly. My parents told me always that if I was just patient and waited then a good man would find me and ask me. They told me to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 04:38 PM
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I know the reason I didn’t when I was young. It’s because I was taught that my role, as a woman, was to be passive and receptive, and that I should wait for men to approach me. Men will pursue the women they actually like… and if you had to approach him, it’s because you’re not desirable at all. It took a long time of being ignored and left alone to unlearn those deeply ingrained trash (also religious) gender roles. It is so weird you guys always assume infinite spite and malice to women for eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 02:17 PM
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I have to be kind and respectful while still taking charge and being dominant. This one ain’t new. It’s literally what men were taught in the West for millenia. It’s the Christian tradition. It’s been the standard of masculinity in the west for a very long time. Certainly my silent generation father was taught this as a child, and so was his greatest generation father, and on and on and on way back. I don’t know where you are from that you think men in the past weren’t supposed to be kind and re…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 09:18 AM
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And are there times you follow her lead, when she knows more about something than you do, say, making appointments and or cooking or budgeting? If he is a red pill man (I don’t know if that guy is), or has some “men should lead and women should follow” mentality, then he has likely never even considered the possibility that she would be better at him at anything in life. For example, red pill, one of the very core red pill beliefs is that women are always 100% inherently and profoundly inferior …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 09:03 AM
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Is disagreeableness a positive trait? Is it worth being with a "bad bitch" considering the "bitch" aspect? You guys clearly think being a disagreeable bossy-britches is a highly positive trait in men. And now you’re trying to shame women for not wanting to put up with someone who is a disagreeable “bitch”. Your whole problem is that most women don’t like disagreeable domineering bossy britches either. It’s why you’re trying to scold women into submission— they’re not interested men being bitches…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 08:53 AM
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Why do you assume its female emotions that are in conflict and not say her thoughts or logic? Its pretty telling you said feelings and not thought processes. That says to me you do not value what she has to say. It is conditional cooperation. Its very conditional. She can always leave. You should be a husband not a tyrant. Yes, I noticed this too, and it is incredibly telling that he believes that what he thinks is the logical correct answer, and whatever she thinks is just dumb woman emotions t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 08:49 AM
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There are legion of female-identified poasters in this thread indicating they would go apeshit. You plan to marry a mean evil yucky feminist woman you despise? How very interesting. The question still remains: why do you want this woman to bear and raise your child, when you truly believe she’s nothing more than a stupid apeshit psycho? I will also point out that there is a huge fucking difference between talking to your wife about your needs before knocking her up like a big boy, and waiting un…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 08:09 AM
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The real hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:45 AM
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I said "regarding them," point-blank period. So you admit that you see almost everyone on earth as a subhuman. You have not “regarded” even a tiny fraction of people in your own life. Everyone you have failed to grace with your direct attention is not human to you. Stop projecting your own weird desire to view the majority of humanity as subhuman on the rest of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:02 AM
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There are 9 billion people on earth. Not regarding each and every one of them as a sexual partner does not mean you see them all as “subhuman”. It means you don’t have enough time in the day to actually pay attention to each person individually. Thats not a moral failing, it’s just that if I tried to pay attention to everyone individually, it would take sixty years, non-stop, to give each person on earth 0.2 seconds of my time. It is not considering someone subhuman to fail to meet that ridiculo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:20 PM
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What reality are you referencing? There are millions of different realities for millions of different couples. Be specific, instead of these 10 word empty answers. Is it your assertion that it is common for a man tells his wife before she got pregnant that he would like to have a paternity test, and then for her to invariably and automatically go apeshit and kill him? Do you believe there are zero women alive who would be able to have a basic conversation without turning into a psycho fembot? My…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:57 PM
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You’d be fine with not trusting your wife to talk to her? Why did you marry this dumb bitch? Why are you having children with someone you think is too stupid to have a basic conversation? You do know that your children will inherit from her and be raised with her values, right? Why do you want to have children with someone loser you do not respect? I genuinely cannot fathom this at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:43 PM
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They want it run by the government so the individual man doesn’t have to be responsible for his own actions Yeah, this is why these online weirdos want it run by the government. They do not want to have any accountability for their own choices. It’s why they blame women for everything (quick “not all men” caveat— I know most men are not insane like these mandatory-paternity-test weirdos.) And yes, this too: they also hope it’ll mean more women and kids are out starving on the streets because she…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:41 PM
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I literally said they should take the test. Why would they be raising another man’s child? You are confused. I’m saying the man sneaking around behind her back in secret doesn’t trust his wife because he cannot even talk to her. He assumes the fucking worst of her and treats her like she’s bit actually a partner. Again, it is fine for him to get the test. I agree he should take one if he wants it. But his keeping it a secret because “what she doesn’t know won’t hurt me” is still dishonest and co…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:34 PM
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Yes, a lot of men would prefer not to actually trust their wife as an equal partner. It is astonishing you guys are willing to let this woman presumably bear your child and raise it, but you also think she’s too stupid and mean and untrustworthy to be able to handle you being honest. Thats just how it is. I am jealous of men here— women do not have any equivalent test they can run in secret to verify a man’s fidelity and honesty. You expect her to trust you with no proof of any kind whatsoever, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:20 PM
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Yes. I also don’t get why so many guys want to have the government mandate universal paternity tests instead of nutting up and just getting the test. It’s cheap legal and easily available. If you think there is some 0.00004% chance your wife is an evil lying cheating bitch, and it is mentally important to you to get the test to have peace of mind, then why are you being a coward about it? To avoid the “I bet you cheated on me” problem, you could have explained before knocking her up that it is i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:25 PM
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If you want to marry someone with a male libido, that is your choice. You can either find that top 2% woman (that all other men want too!), or go gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:11 PM
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Men here insist those shitty women are extremely common, nearly ubiquitous. That all women are trash. So no, it’s not a very obscure example within the context of this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:59 AM
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Yes, what one person said doesn't matter In a debate with that person, what they said matters. You want to have a totally different argument, and for some absurd reason, you thought jumping in to insult me with a stupid meme would convince me to debate you on a topic that is not what OP said. you would be easily able to show me, but you failed to do so. Looks like you don’t read. I already pointed out that OP did not say anything about averages or statistical samples or “some” or “most”. I don’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:33 AM
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And appeal to emotion doesn't work here. Yeah, truly astonishing women aren’t sympathetic to your obsession with making them suffer to stroke your ego. 🙄 If she wanted someone else to inflict those things to see if she likes it when they inflict them or if she just wanted to try something that resulted in those things even if they weren't planned- then why wouldn't she want to try it with you? Cuz she already knows she doesn’t like it. This isn’t complicated. And what is this “even if they weren…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:19 AM
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You said very specifically: My experience is women will act as shitty as you permit them. People who are like that are bad people. You do not hang around any good women evidently.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:10 PM
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Honestly, it’s been a week and you’re really not top of my priorities. I don’t even remember whether you’re arguing to force people who hate each other to stay married, or just anti men taking care of their own kids. Both seem kinda par for the course around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:08 PM
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Regardless of what he said What he said doesn’t matter? I get it, you feel like you can just make up whatever you want in an effort to try to call other people incompetent. Sorry, “what someone says in a debate doesn’t matter” is not how any debate work ever. You came in trying to smart off at me about basic logic— and you are wrong . I didn’t do the stupid shit you’re blasting me with in your condescending little pictogram meme. Seriously, learn how to debate instead of trying to “gotcha” peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 09:34 PM
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Nice try, but not applicable here. He didn’t say jack shit about averages, or most women, or some women or anything. His exact statement is exactly: My point is women chastise and complain about men “just wanting sex” while getting fucked every Friday with a new man thruout their entire 20s. He is claiming all women are stupid slutty hypocrites. I didn’t do any of that. So it is actually patently false that “women” are doing this. All it takes to disprove a universal claim is just one single cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:16 PM
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Yeah, the guy might be murdering her “Might”… you have no clue. Unless you yourself are admitting that that’s the reason you murdered a girlfriend, you should probably lead the speculating about motive to the prosecutors. I also find it fairly terrifying that you think it is only rational for men to murder their wives and girlfriends. You don’t even seem to understand the correlation here. It could just as easily be that men get annoyed that she’s no longer attractive. Or that he’s just a worthl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:10 PM
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Did I say my only dealings with women have been bad? 😂 what? You said every single one of the women you have ever dealt with lack morals and only behave if you keep them in line. Yes, those women are all bad. Anyone that spineless and immoral is genuinely a bad person. Sorry you didn’t know that anyone who only behaves while being watched is actually a bad person. Glad I could teach you. but without fail If, without fail, she acts like gutter trash unless you punish her… she’s a bad person, lol.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:02 PM
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Then your experience is apparently with only shitty women. 🤷‍♀️ Upstanding moral women do not do trashy shit because they refuse to on their own morals. It is only trashy women who refrain from doing trashy immoral shit merely out of fear some man will beat them, lol. The same goes for men, by the way— a man who only just barely behaves tolerably out of fear of punishment isn’t a good guy. He’s a spineless shit without his own moral code.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:53 PM
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Hmmm, ok. Almost all men watch porn, and one of the most popular genres of porn is incest. I await seeing how your explanation suddenly is “no no, that’s different. I don’t wanna fuck my mom!”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:02 PM
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The world is trending towards women denying their beauty I know this is hard to believe, but a lot of the women denying their beauty are actually ones you would not consider beautiful. You see words online, and then on your head you imagine they’re all hot. But you really do not see or understand that most women are not the “girl next door” beauties you’re picturing as average.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:30 PM
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while hooking up with a guy and having basically no real relationship outside of that. Ok, I didn’t. Not once. Your point is invalid now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:40 PM
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Honestly, since apparently men are so destructive and disruptive when they don’t get whatever they want, you ought to say thank you to all these women laying down for you and keeping you safe from an incel apocalypse. Oh what? You’ll never ever thank any woman for pacifying this violent rotten evil men? Why no gratitude to all the women of history for sacrificing themselves to keep men peaceful? Why no gratitude to women for the comparatively safe and peaceful world you live in? If you actually …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:11 PM
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You found every way to dismiss other people’s loneliness as not real, including saying it’s just an “extreme” example, saying they just shouldn’t be lonely because they have friends and family already, and that they should just wait to die. And to me specifically, you dismissed my personal example with “it’s different because you can just go out anywhere and be accepted and loved by default”. A “nu uh, women can never ever be lonely” response. I really don’t see why you object to the advice of “…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:45 PM
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legacy This one is such an odd sentiment, and I have only ever seen it expressed by men. You say having children will leave a “legacy”… but honestly, what does that really mean and why does that matter so much to you? Like, a lot of men who want children as a “legacy” barely even interact with their kids. In what way are you yourself a “legacy” of your ancestors? And in particular, since you’re asking women in particular… how do you personally represent the legacy of any of your female ancestors…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:17 PM
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So in other words, “just be happy being single” is your literal advice for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:57 PM
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Is men having preferences for toxic women even a thing? I just explained how some do. It is indeed apparently a thing for the men who harp endlessly on how women always choose evil violent men and how women are all dumb whores— these guys are clearly obsessed with women who choose evil violent men. They say women should “choose better” because they want those women to choose them. They ignore the women who already choose better. For example, there is a whole theme of men in this sub claiming wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:53 PM
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Considering how rampant “ravaging” is across the romance genre, I suspect telling socially maladjusted men to just read romance novels to understand women better is actually pretty bad advice. Like, do you really want these often hyper-literalist men to read 50 shades of grey and think that writing up an unbreakable bondage obedience contract is a good idea? Even in more recent popular stuff like bridgerton… doesn’t Daphne rape her husband? Yeah, I don’t think this is good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:37 PM
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I’ll be honest: this trend with red pill men is one of the funniest parts of red pill to me. They totally hyperfocus on women with 5 different baby daddies, Instagram baddies with a bajillion followers who insist on dying to Dubai for a first date, fickle flaky women who cannot be reasoned with, women who pick the absolute WORST men every time, etc… And then instead of examining their own toxic preferences for bad women, they just dismiss any accountability for their preferences with “AWALT”. 🤣 …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:31 PM
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Lolwut? It’s not “extreme” at all— it’s an incredibly common life experience for one person in a couple to die before the other. Plus she’s lived with love in her life and built a family. Ah, so loneliness isn’t real if you have friends and family? That sounds like exactly the same advice and shallow dismissal you were initially criticizing in your OP… but now you are happy to dish it out yourself. I hope you noticed that you literally dished out “just be happy being single” as your go to advice…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:25 PM
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If you’re someone who knows you could find a partner relatively easily if you wanted one, staying single is a choice. I did not believe at that I could “find a partner relatively easily if I wanted one” at any point in my life. I have always been ignored by men for relationships and sex, and I genuinely believed I would be single for life for most of my life. “Just be happy being single” was the theory I lived by for most of my life, and no, men were not throwing themselves at me. I was unwanted…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:14 PM
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Except men are not the same in women in pretending that it is virtue signalling. I disagree, and I’ve shown you examples of men virtue signaling right here. And your response to that was to accuse me of hating men. You are not debating in good faith. You are ranting, and you are accusing anyone who debates with you of being an evil man-hating villain. I’m not interested in continuing with your dishonesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:59 AM
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with women trying to literally be men by always competing to meet male metrics Men don’t respect women for meeting “female metrics”, whatever those are supposed to be. So why bother? I’d personally rather get paid for a lifetime of actual real respected work, than get paid for a few years for being pretty, thanks. And that’s especially true since i know I’m not that hot. instead of simply competing with other women to to be better women? I was just told by another man here that there’s basically…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:55 PM
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Women tell short men to kill themselves all the time No. You are clearly trolling if you think this is normal behavior anywhere. The numbers are much smaller The number of women telling short men to die is way smaller than the number of men telling unattractive women to die, but you’re only here to shame women and glaze for men. Things like dating about statistics also back up that men have been less picky for decades. Why do you think that being willing to suck it up and fuck someone you don’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:43 PM
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Yeah, if benign complements like this creeps girls and women out Dude, yelling at someone about how you like their body is very very aggressive, demanding behavior. It is neither benign nor polite. Are you incapable of saying “hi” politely to someone without screaming gross “compliments” at them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:35 PM
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It's about the woman and if she feels safe for a random guy to approach her. That's what I am worried about. I don’t think this is a rational level of worry. Are you approaching a woman in a public place politely? Why would that feel unsafe? I’m assuming you’re not using threatening or menacing gestures or body language here, you’re not coming up waaaaay too close, or grabbing her, or yelling at her, or making physically threatening movements, or making a scary threatening face, right? So why ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:14 PM
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Well for starters, don’t be so judgy: being in a bar doesn’t mean you’re an alcoholic. And to talk to people you don’t know well, it can indeed be awkward. If you’re polite and friendly and respect a rejection (including a softer rejection), it’s really not the end of the world. so the answer I would get is just "good" or "ok". How do you know how a woman will reply if you never try? Stop rejecting yourself preemptively. It is ok to approach people and chat with them, and for that to either beco…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:43 PM
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Most men don’t date fat or ugly or old women. Average men often date women they like for a bit, and then are single for a long time. It’s basically a lot of men trading among the attractive women for and leaving the ugly women alone. For example, it is a statistical fact that 85% of women in elder care facilities are single… you just don’t consider them to be women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:26 PM
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But most are happy as long as they are having sex. The endless complaints about a woman settling clearly shows otherwise. You are very eager to cling to this very rosy view of men, but it kinda required ignoring how men speak and act. They would ideally like to “collect” women whom they are equally attracted to. The behavior of the most powerful men in history attests to this. They want to collect women, but they definitely are not equally attracted to all of them. The behavior of the most power…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:22 PM
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The men would die to protect their women from that. Those same exact men were the ones other women needed protection from. The man protecting you was at the very same time the evil raping horde or invaders for other women. The only reason women needed protection was because of the horrific violence of men. You do not get to virtue signal that “men” are grand noble protectors while ignoring who they were protecting women from. It was also men… usually men exactly like themselves; and they in turn…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:42 PM
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It was also gender specific: slave owners regularly raped their female slaves and used them as breeding stock to produce children they kept as slaves. African American descendants of slaves almost always have roughly 15-25% European ancestry for this specific reason. And don’t forget, later, white former slave owners lynched black men if they even so much as thought the man looked at a white woman. You cannot claim gender had nothing to do with how black folks were treated.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:36 PM
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” men are actually terrible" No. I don’t think men are terrible. You’re getting pissy that I’m pointing out that men are the same as women. "women would never do any of those horrible things men do". No. You are getting your pants all in a twist that I’m right to point out that men are just the same way women are. Why do you consider it such a deep insult to compare men to women and find them so deeply similar? Men and women both try to present their own sexualities as “better”. You want to pret…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:23 PM
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Sorry, I typoed— I was editing and didn’t switch that correctly. That should be top 20% of men. Loads of women are with men who are not “top 20%” men. Average women date average men all the time. Most men do in fact date. It’s not just the “top 20%” of men. So yeah, most women aren’t the hyper picky evil bitches this guy is trying to claim. But no, it’s not a contradiction. When men online say “I am attracted to 90% of women”… they are absolutely not considering below average women at all. There…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:14 PM
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If she doesn't want to try it with you - you are plain noodles and cottage cheese. That’s really how you think about it, huh? If she won’t let you inflict pain, discomfort, or even abuse on her, you think that means you’re not just attractive enough. In order for you to feel desired, you need to inflict pain on her. Anything short of her crying and hating every time she fucks you means you won’t like it. Experimenting is only held against you if you did it with other men No. The lesson I’ve lear…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:07 PM
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Putting words in other peoples' mouths is NOT a right way to do so. I didn’t put words in your mouth, I used a synonym. You specifically spoke about the women men choose as a wife. How is “someone a man will choose as a wife” not the same thing as “wife material”? You’re getting wildly offended over nothing. If you need to misquote me to make your point, then you don't have much of a point. More semantics rather than addressing the sentiment. Your exact quote is “ just because a man prefers a 9 …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:28 AM
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respectfully your projecting how women view men onto men themselves No, I’m observing what men say and and do. You cannot say old women are disgusting old hags, and fat women are nasty ham planets… and also claim you adore 90% of the women in general. this was true you won’t have groups of men being dictated to every kind of women possible, Rare extreme exceptions does not change the general rule and you know it. There are women who like short men too: if you won’t acknowledge them, why should I…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:19 AM
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Yeah, men are the gender flexing not caring who they fuck and being eager to pump and dump them, like that’s some kind of virtue. One just has to go on men space on social media and they will casually admit that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:58 AM
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The majority of men find the majority of women attractive to some degree. That's a simple fact. No, it is not a fact. The majority of men find a majority of thin young healthy pretty women attractive. You simply do not register the majority of unattractive women as women at all. The majority of women in the US are old or fat or both… and then even some of the young thin ones are ugly beyond that. No, men don’t find most women attractive. They just say they do as a virtue signal that they are so …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:05 AM
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I’m not sure where you are getting this from. I certainly didn't use the word "wife material" in my post. I agree you did not use that exact phrase. This is merely a common discussion point on this sub. It’s a simple connection to make: men settling for the boring wifey woman doesn’t mean he actually likes her or thinks she’s anything better than “barely above repulsive”. I will take your attempt to change the subject as a concession that you agree with everything in my post. Thanks. I agree wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:49 AM
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Men will still do nice things for their wives and girlfriends and have sex with them even if they are more attracted to other women who they can’t attract. Women still do nice things for their husbands and boyfriends and have sex with them even if they are more attracted to other men who they cannot attract for a real relationship. And men explain that this is deeply, horribly cruel and they don’t want “duty sex”, they want “real genuine visceral attraction” and they want her to fuck him instant…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:28 PM
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Because women seem to think that admitting to superficial preferences makes women look bad It is pretty funny you say this in a sub where there are men frequently virtue signaling that they fine 90+% of all women attractive. Seems like most people don’t want to be seen as shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:25 PM
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To put it another way, just because a man prefers a 9 doesn't mean he finds a 6 repulsive Ah yes, I love it when men try to tell us the term “wife material” is a compliment, lol. It’s not. For a lot of men, “wife material” actually means: “look, I guess you’re not totally repulsive, and I can’t do any better, so I’ll settle for you as my boring backup plan.”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:41 PM
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They can be “kind of” attracted to their wives and still enjoy sex with them while lusting over more attractive women too. Men here constantly complain that they do not want a woman to be merely “kind of” attracted to him. Why do men claim being “kind of” maybe sort-of wanted as a last choice supposed is the ultimate prize for women, but is absolutely somehow not good enough for men. Men here regularly describe a wife being only “kind of” attracted to them as an insult, even: they say “husband m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:35 PM
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Tiktok, YouTube, reddit, Facebook, Twitter, etc. I've seen them everywhere. In your curated algorithm that’s feeding you the rage bait you interact with most. My algorithm gives me… knitting and embroidery patterns, science shows, videos of people trying foods for the first time, Whenever I have very occasionally had trash “I hate men” or “I hate women” slop shoveled at me, I ignore it or dismiss it, and it stops showing up in my feed. You are curating what you want to see. And for whatever baff…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:26 PM
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Ladies, nearly all of you have literally THOUSANDS of likes sitting in your queue within 2-3 weeks of downloading Hinge, Tinder, or Bumble. I can’t take this objection seriously. You talk about average men this and average men that… but then immediately start whining about significantly above average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:11 AM
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Where do you think fathers don’t matter in actual practice? I could t name a single place on earth where kids with casual or absent slut fathers are doing as well as the kids with caring devoted monogamous fathers..
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:40 AM
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Women haven't exactly given me the idea that fathers are all that necessary. No not women. The small subset of women you curated by obsessing over them your psycho TikTok feed. I'm speaking on households with one man and multiple women. And historically, these were implemented by force and coercion and religious control and even child rape. They have not been founded through female choice. You just don’t give a shit about the abuse of women as long as you get to be the one to abuse them. You als…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:38 AM
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I'm not saying experimenting should be held against women. It doesn’t matter— she is being punished for it either way. As a woman, it is apparently correct to avoid “experimenting” unless you already know 100% for sure that you will enjoy it. If there’s any doubt, don’t risk it. But can you not understand why specific situations like this would be frustrating for her boyfriend/husband? No, because I cannot imagine wanting to do something sexual to someone that they do not want to do. It is grote…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 09:51 PM
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meaning that roughly 46% of women would face potential single motherhood. This is actually really bad. Why do you think fathers don’t matter? Are you a misandrist? They could more easily put the man of the household in his place if need be What “man of the household”? You said the the women are mostly single fathers. I'd bet a lot more women would become open to sharing I’d bet not. The way polygamous marriages actually have occurred in the real world are in societies where women have no rights.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:25 PM
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I’m not a fan of a world of mostly single mothers where fathers don’t matter and don’t play a role either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:20 PM
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I find it hilarious how when a man says that he does not like people who engage in casual sex, he is labeled as a misogynist by nearly all women Quote me where I called men “misogynists” if they do not engage in casual sex themselves and also do not want to date someone who engages in casual sex? The usual problem I see around these parts are men who hypocritically shit all over women who have casual sex but are total sluts themselves. And no, for the record, I honestly don’t care if you want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:19 PM
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All the comments about this topic make one thing clear: If you are a woman and you are not 100% dead sure you will adore all anal all the time, do not ever fucking try it. Way too many men are complete titty-baby psychos about the subject and will whine endlessly and hate you with the fire of a thousand suns if you tried it once and don’t like it. Jesus. Like I didn’t want to do anal in the first place, but i thought of it as just a personal preference. This sub has taught me that I was cosmical…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:23 PM
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It’s usually what happens when there is a massive shortage of men. Sometimes men in power have engineered the system to kill off men just so they can have extra wives. Islam specifically supported polygamist marriages as a way to keep the excess women out of poverty… as fucking gross as that shit is. Massive gender imbalances seem to generate very pathological behaviors. Like yeah, im glad not all men want a harem. It seems really icky. But I’m also curious, what percentage of those 20% of men d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:02 PM
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So are you willing to admit that tender years supporters I have no idea what you’re talking about. I’m not interested in jumping down this bonkers rabbit hole of you putting words in my mouth. I do not support the tender years doctrine… but something from the 1800s that’s been repealed for at least decades seems pretty… bonkers? Like ok, yeah I also don’t support the Dredd Scott decision. And that if the #1 threat of female murder comes from the boyfriends of pregnant women, we could try to abol…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 11:58 AM
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No, I would not be happy being a used up cum dumpster. Wtf. I cannot tell you how fucking gross it would be to invite a strange man over to fuck me and then wake up used and alone and ignored. I get that the idea of fucking random woman is probably your ideal, but being the target of that degeneracy is deeply unappealing to me. I was single myself for a very very long time. I never once had casual sex. I know I can survive it. But I am far happier with my husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 11:30 AM
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Women women are happy being single… but not 80%. And some men also prefer being single, or are gay. So it wouldn’t even be 20% of women who would have someone. And you’re totally delusional to think there’d be any monogamy, if men had that many options. We’ve already run a much much weaker version of your proposal— Russia after WWII had only 61 men per 100 women. Single motherhood became so common, it was legalized in 1944 and women were encouraged to become single mothers for the state. Men bou…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 11:24 AM
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No thanks. I do not want to share a man. I like my husband. I absolutely do not want to jockey for position with a bunch of other clawing women to have a chance at seeing him maybe once a week. Fuck that gross harem shit. Harems are men’s fantasy, not women’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:16 AM
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Why do you think this is how it works? Did you used to enjoy experimenting with lots of exciting delicious new foods, but now you’re done experimenting and you only want plain noodles and cottage cheese? Usually, when people actually enjoy something, they want to keep doing it. So can you try using your imagination and think through some possible reasons why someone who experimented with something might never ever want to do it again? (Also seriously, I’ve discovered from these threads that expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:08 AM
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Freezing to death for the girl you love. That's romantic. It’s not romantic, it is terrible. Romantic is finding a way to be together and enjoying your lives together. There is nothing romantic about death. you do it because you're magnetically drawn to your other half A person being there and making you feel good because you are “magnetically drawn to them” is also a utility. You enjoy their behavior and performance that they provide. If the behavior you are magnetically drawn to is not how the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:22 PM
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No fault divorce significantly lowered the rates of both domestic violence… and homicide. It has, yes, decreased the rate of husband homicide. 🤷‍♀️ but maybe you don’t care about men’s lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:10 PM
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Ok. The point is generic, not about you personally. If you don’t like someone’s behavior, you are not forced to date them. Not outside of forced marriages— which I assume you are not talking about here. If you like a person, and they like you back , you can pick to date them. Or you can even pick not to date them for whatever reason (you’re too shy, you’re leaving town, you don’t wanna be tied down… whatever). You are free to choose. You are not being forced to date anyone. Not in my country, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:07 PM
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I don’t “pick” people. You do. You choose who you approach, and you choose who you continue to see. Nobody is forcing you at gunpoint to date women you do not like. You yourself are choosing whether to date these women. No one else is picking the women you date for you. I have never had a relationship where I was the chooser I’d get literally snatched out of singledom by a woman who just happened to pick me up. They are not forcing you or raping you, presumably. If you do not like their behavior…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:18 PM
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I didn’t say you want a slave. I said you want someone who is attractive to conform their personality and behavior to your desires. For example, if your complaint is about women who expect you to pay for a date, you want a hot woman who usually expects men to pay to ditch that requirement just for you. That doesn’t sound like “slavery” to me; don’t be so hysterical. But sure, yeah, I was being snarky because the same complaints get posted frequently, but the question of “ok, what’s your proposal…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:25 PM
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Their alternative, as always, is for the women they desire to simply conform to his wishes totally. Whenever he asks out a woman, she should instantly abandon her personality and values and preferences so she can be the perfect woman for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:18 AM
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How rare it is is irrelevant. It is very relevant considering you will likely choose a woman who isn't naturally like that and will simply be disappointed that she doesn't do this money dance for you. But likewise, why is it only possible to be compatible with someone who is exactly like you in every way, and anyone who is not every bit as masculine as you is just "using you" for your "utility"? Why do you automatically assume everyone more feminine than you is objectifying you and cynically usi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:19 PM
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As for your complaint about women’s colleges, here’s an example for you: Florida State College for Women began admitting men in 1947. It’s now just called Florida State, though, so you didn’t realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 11:28 AM
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Remind me which Disney prince who got the girl was a nice and polite, but otherwise ugly boring miserable wet blanket again?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 11:25 AM
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A lot want this, yes. But it is actually pretty strange you think wanting this: Men want Olivia Munn. Which seems sort of reasonable to me. We want someone who makes our dick hard, but is similar enough to us that we can relate to them. … is a moderately rare combo. Most women are generally feminine in personality and behavior, not masculine. Part of what was so relatable to so many women about the Gillian Fynn monologue was that most women aren’t “cool” like men want. It’s a really stressful di…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 11:12 AM
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I’m not saying women should be forced to have sex with certain men. You said it should be illegal for women to choose men based on any physical or genetic criteria, because it’s not fair for men to not get the woman he wants just because of some inborn trait he cannot control. But once again, that shouldn’t matter, because in that number, there’s also homosexual and asexual males. And also homosexual and asexual and sterile females. Again, a terrible injustice in your world that such women not h…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:47 PM
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Where did i say that? You’re now putting words into my mouth. Genuine apology for saying you called me "paranoid": I thought you were the person who called me "paranoid", but it checking my inbox more closely, it was u/Muscletov. It was an honest mistake. But if you mean "where did I say it should be illegal for women to be allowed to have standards"? ... that's right here: Discriminating standards based on uncontrollable things should be illegal imo So yeah, you did say that women should be pun…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:48 PM
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How the hell do you compare those preferences? They are sexual preferences. That is how. And human’s can think rationally, so your point doesn’t make sense. We aren’t irrational robots. Women cannot force themselves to feel sexual attraction to they do not feel sexual attraction to in exactly the same way you cannot force yourself to feel sexual attraction to people you are not attracted to. Women can no more force themselves to desire every man equally than you can force yourself to desire ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:59 PM
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First off, not one of these things you’ve said is a rebuttal to anything I said. You are going off on a rant about fairness and restrictions you apparently want? Again, i remind you— I did not once accuse you of wanting to imprison women for refusing sex (? Like, seriously, where is this bizarre “women should all be legally required to be raped” shit coming from???) You called me paranoid for simply explaining how eliminating the “women are wonderful” effect would not actually force women to hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:54 PM
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Oh wow, that’s some real word 🥗
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 05:04 PM
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but also act feminine. Men complain about their feminine partners because they choose them in the first place. Men complain about women acting feminine who they arent dating, too. And they have almost very little positive to say about feminine behavior. Many men mock things they don’t like as being “girly” and use womanhood itself as an insult. Sorry, but a whole lot of men seem to be, at best, very annoyed by femininity, and they definitely don’t have positive things to say about it. Like… what…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 04:48 PM
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I honestly do not have a clue how I’m supposed to separate “who he is” from “what he does”. By what mechanism am I supposed to discern who he really is if not by observing how he behaves. Like… am I supposed to just stare longingly into his eyes and psychically know who he is in his own mind? And what if his actions don’t line up at all with who he thinks he really is? Like, he thinks he’s a great guy, but his actions and words are selfish, and belittling, and hurtful to others? What if he think…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:38 AM
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I never said anything about considering women's preferences evil or, hell, making them illegal Yes. I know you did not. I did not accuse you of saying that. I am explaining to you that “women are wonderful” is actually not responsible for the female preferences you dislike. Even if you switched all of society to think “women are crap”, it would not make women change into what you want them to be. And my evidence is that all of society deeply condemning certain standards of certain men *does not …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:56 AM
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Men respect men with a lot of "masculine" traits and love women with a lot of "feminine" traits I disagree! A whole lot of men don’t actually seem to love when a woman has lots of feminine traits. These are women they complain about endlessly— she’s too emotional, I have to make all the decisions for her, she’s weak, she’s too sensitive, I would even be friends with her if it weren’t for the sex, she is illogical, her hobbies are stupid and boring (or aren’t even “real” hobbies at all), she can’…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:41 AM
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Our western cultures have decided that women are the noble gender whose standards for men exclusively revolve around wholesome, Changing “Women are wonderful” to “women are crap” will not change natural female sexual desires, though. Let’s say society changed exactly the way you want it to, and society decides to view women’s standards as universally evil. What does this change for you? How would people hating women’s preferences change what women actually desire? For a very strong example, ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:28 AM
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I know you didn’t. I’m not blaming you for anything here at all. It’s perfectly normal for shitty people to lie to normal decent people successfully. And I think you will actually have a happier life for not being a cynical jerk who assumes everyone is a liar to protect yourself… even if you do sometimes get lied to. My point is that, while you are correct that his lying will absolutely sabotage a relationship, and he’ll be less happy than you in the wrong term… he won’t see it that way his lyin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:39 PM
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I chose great, don’t know what you’re talking about. It took me forever to find him, but I’m glad I waited for someone I genuinely liked instead of just settling for someone unattractive just because he was also good on paper. I also had zero experiences with assholes, abusers, and losers, and have found exactly one highly compatible man who is both exciting and entirely super reliable… who also married me. Sooo…. what did I do wrong? Why was I supposed to race to settle down with someone boring…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 11:28 AM
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why do you assume that she had a problem with sleeping, or dating them? I didn’t assume she didn’t agree to date them at first? But according to what she said, they lied profusely, and she hated that and decided to break up with them after she found out. So it sounds like she might not have dated them if she had known they were lying sleazeballs from the start. We have no way of knowing the counterfactual for sure, of course. But the facts we do know are that their lying strategy worked and she …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:37 PM
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I think you’re missing the point that lying to you got those assholes what they wanted in the moment. They didn’t actually give a shit about being with you long term or having a happy relationship. . They wanted sex right now, and they got it. They will still feel pride that they tricked you and used you years later. They will continue to use the same cruel tricks on other women and discard them, and if it stops working, they’ll escalate to other tactics. They won’t change. They have no reason t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:01 PM
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Having to advance your career is much more difficult, however. lol, no, it is not more difficult to advance a career than it is to somehow reverse time. One is totally achievable, and the other breaks the laws of physics. And beyond that, most women do not expect “advancement”. They expect the man to not give up on life and turn into an all-day video game machine. Extremely achievable. Looks for men matter, but less so than for women. And even the amount that it matters for men infuriates men. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 10:46 AM
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You're relying on a hackneyed stereotype of men. This isn't all your fault; a lot of men on PPD do claim they only find young women attractive. And you’re misrepresenting what I said. I did not say that all men are incapable of finding an older woman attractive— you made that claim up in your head so you could falsely accuse me of supporting a stereotype. I agree that not all men only find young women attractive. But I didn’t say anything like “all men only ever find young women attractive”. Wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 10:19 AM
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It’s called a debate, and your response is in bad faith. I am responding to the things you said that I disagree with. You’re free not to respond, but just whining that my disagreement means I must not have understood is a pretty cheap cop out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 10:06 AM
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Serial killers have more women interested in them than a boring non criminal. Ah, and like clockwork, you are back to claiming this exceptionally tiny minority of women are actually super important and it doesn’t matter one tiny bit whether they are evil horrible women. The other day you insisted they didn’t matter at all and were totally irrelevant to the world. Yet today you insist that no matter how evil or abusive they are, men should choose them anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 01:38 AM
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I meant 10 single men of a suitable age. Nonsense. Men always want beautiful young women to consider them, no matter how old and fat and ugly they are. So yes, you did exactly what I said you would— you artificially consider any unattractive women not to count. Age is the single most critical factor in men’s attraction to women, and you artificially cut out a majority of unattractive women so you could pretend male attraction is somehow more fair and even. Why would I be having a pity party? I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:44 AM
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The only difference is that women can get sex whenever they want. The reason it’s so hard for men to get is, again, because women do not want that trashy crap nearly as much as men do. You didn't understand what I said and chose to just get mad instead 🙄 cheap emotional shaming language. Typical. I explain why sex is hard for men to get (men want way way way more casual sex than women do) and you call it anger. Why? Why did you try to twist a very simple fact into an accusation that I’m somehow …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:28 AM
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He does if he is red pill. Always. The red pill rule is that men are always dating down, no matter what, because “hypergamy”. A woman can only ever be inferior to a man she dates. There are no exceptions ever within the red pill— all women are always inferior to the men they date. AWALT, hypergamy, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:22 AM
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I don’t hate men and I don’t disrespect most men. I do disrespect men who think I’m inferior, and I do disrespect men who make up fake words to put in my mouth and make false accusations about me. Not fucking every man in town is not a form of disrespect to any of them. Is it disrespect when you won’t fuck someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:18 AM
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This would be the third time I said what you do with your own lady bits is fine A dishonest denial, since you also accused me of hating sex. You would not have made a personal negative accusation of me if you weren’t disapproving. This isn't about you personally, at all, what you do with your body is fine (fourth time) If it were actually fine with you, you would not have made a sweeping negative accusation of me, or made up an imaginary feelings and projected them at me. Not wanting casual sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:14 AM
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I'd imagine casual sex is enjoyable for both parties. You both get you want and part ways. I’m not “framing” it anyways. It is DEEPLY undesirable to me to have fake intimacy with someone I don’t know. How can I possibly want a complete fucking stranger to be “intimate” with me? You wouldn’t share your credit card and social security number with someone you barely know, but you expect me to “enjoy” doing something far more vulnerable with someone. Why would I enjoy that with someone who does not …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 08:04 PM
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I don’t view men as inherently bad, nor would I ever consider someone I love to be “inferior”. I don’t view people the way you do. Don’t blame me for your own beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 07:58 PM
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One of the top reasons for falling out love for women is the "lack of ambition" in her man. If he doesn't advance his career over time he's deemed worthless and is discarded. Some women. Others don’t care. If you only want gold diggers, fine, but lots of women stay in love even with ailing sick husbands who cannot have ambition. Many women love their husbands in dead end jobs. But even if your claim were true, that all women “fall out of love” if a man doesn’t advance his career… it’s still not …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 06:35 PM
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Sounds like you just don't enjoy sex in general, I enjoy sex very much with the man I love. I do not have any reason to enjoy sex with the general population. But nice of you to try to tell me I’m somehow defective for not wanting to whore myself out to men who don’t care about me. And I bet you do not like women who have sex with men “in general” anyways, so totally empty attempt at shaming me for not wanting to be disposable. but in no way comparable to the experience of crushing loneliness an…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 06:29 PM
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The "someone she's attracted to" is already ruling out a huge proportion of men, though. Men rule out a huge proportion of women too. And it really doesn’t matter if she doesn’t get all men— that’s the way men think when they want to fuck 100 women. For a woman looking for a monogamous relationship, all she needs is one man who is attractive who also wants her back. Your insistence that it is unreasonable for a woman to want what you demand as a bare minimum is… certainly interesting. If you see…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 06:12 PM
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So why is dating a woman who is more peaceful, more loyal, and more chaste considered “dating down”? Why is this woman considered inferior to her partner automatically? She has good qualities, but you don’t respect her or and consider her lesser in spite of (or because of?) those qualities? All I ever see is that “hypergamy” is a way for red pill men to tell themselves they are very very special by shitting on their girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:58 PM
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Over time, they'll consider popular/hot girls as a certain type that's unrelatable. This calcifies and eventually, they stop consider her, and women like her, as attractive. Yay. Normal women get to be boring Becky beta last-choice. but there's also the matter of men wanting adoration, and if you date a woman who cannot do even half the things you can, if she's wow'ed by that, they're feeling it. Yes I agree this is a thing with some men. It is likely the origin in their belief in “hypergamy”. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:47 PM
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All I see here is men admitting they genuinely cannot value a woman they marry. Dudes here are admitting openly they think she’s beneath him from the very start, and only becomes worse and worse over time. There is no value in being married to someone who thinks you’re nothing but depreciating trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:46 PM
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simply that there is a document describing those events, and that reality is unrelated to if you believe it or occurred or not. Yes, I agree that there is a document written by men blaming all their complaints about life on a woman. The thing it proves is that there have always been men who hate and blame women for their own bad choices. They have always been with us. Those idiots have founded religions preaching that women are all bad and are never worthy of respect or appreciation. The fact th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:33 PM
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of casual sexual encounters and flings I cannot image how shitty I would feel with casual sex and flings. I’d hate myself and feel far more lonely than I did not being used and discarded. Just because you glorify the experience of being fucked and thrown away doesn’t mean it’s something desirable to everyone. It sounds like torture to me to have something so fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:01 PM
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If someone refuses to settle for anyone but the ideal The comment you are responding to didn’t describe some impossible ideal, though. Thats a strawman. Most women want what she described: someone they are attracted to who shares similar values and works with the kind of life they want to live. That is what most men want as well, and they totally ignore any women who do not conform. Men are much happier to settle, Are they? Men here state regularly and emphatically that they do not want to be se…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:58 PM
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Think about who the average straight single man is hugging Depends on the culture. Men in sports bear hug and slap each other’s asses and chest butt and high five and arm hug and shoulder hug and even pick each other up. Men in some countries kiss each other on the cheek.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:57 AM
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I do think things have changed a lot over the past decade for the better. I have also had a ton of fun playing with men who are totally fun to play with. And I’ve even had a few fun interactions with total strangers online streaming. The attitude that every game has to have gruff gritty grimdark refrigerator dudes hulking around behind chest-high walls and all women in the game have to be helpless big ol’ titties bouncing around… or else it’s attack on men and masculinity is just deeply ridiculo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:43 PM
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Ok, I can change it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:43 PM
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I don’t think I agree overall, but really… I just don’t think it’s meaningful or helpful at all to agglomerate everyone’s experiences to “men have it harder than women” or “women have it harder than men”. It varies so much for the individual that it’s meaningless. And can be hurtful. (I certainly always found it hurtful as a woman who was unwanted to hear the endless chants that any woman who doesn’t have a thousand suitors is a worthless sack of shit). But that aside, I do think you have one po…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:42 PM
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Every knitting circle I’ve ever been to was extraordinarily friendly and very openly welcoming to men. And videogaming is not an inherently social activity— you already have porn for your porn needs. Why do you need to say “no girls allowed” and for you to be able to enjoy this hobby? Do you think the quality of games improves when they spend all their dev effort on jiggle physics instead of actual gameplay mechanics? I always loved video games. What I didn’t like was that people like you always…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:30 PM
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I’m pretty sure it’s mostly anti-sex, not specifically about men. But there’s also legitimate criticisms. I’m not a hardliner anti-porn person, but I would strongly support * good protections for actors * the systematic destruction of all porn what was abusive to the participants (as an incentive to only produce ethical porn)… * obviously, the complete extermination of all child porn, and the incarceration of any adult participating in its manufacture or distribution * effective restriction and …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:15 PM
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You become invisible to men and women… Family starts to die. Siblings move away. Friends lose contact. You are alone with your cats, hearing the clock tick on the wall… This isn't bliss. It's a nightmare and many women live it So you admit women can be lonely. But you’re here trying to attack people arguing against OP instead of arguing against OP yourself. Just jumping at any chance to tell women they should lie down and force themselves to spread their legs for anyone who asks, hmm? Oh right, …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 11:28 AM
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Calling me “darling” and throwing a clown face at me is fake-familiar, deliberately insulting, and obviously rude. Lol, if you were actually chivalrous you would know this is asshole behavior. You’re being rude exactly because it was never about politeness or kindness for you. I didn’t insult you or throw any stones. You are imagining things to paint yourself as the victim and justify your pettiness. All because you’re upset that not all men are actually nice when they are playing chivalry. I wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:47 AM
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I do not see how it is personal to assume that someone cannot date supermodels? It’s the most generic possible guess about anyone on Reddit that they’re a normal person, not a superstar.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:40 AM
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I didn’t imagine anything. I certainly didn’t imagine you using the word “idiot” to describe women you don’t like. And yes, I’m also not imagining that you are trying to snidely call me a miserable delusional idiot with your condescending little “you must have a great time”. You are showing your real colors here with your insults and unkind words.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:40 AM
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WTF is up with this made up nonsense attack??? I did NOT say anything like that. I absolutely emphaticallly did NOT say anything like those dismissive shitty words you put in my mouth. I fucking did not ever once claim in any way that male rape victims are not “real victims”. You are being deeply dishonest and outright manipulative with that “isn’t it interesting” bullshit. What actually happened here is that you asked a goddamned question: you asked “ Yeah, but why is it only focused on drunk w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 09:12 PM
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Partly because most men can substantially out drink most women. If a man and a woman are drinking at the same rate, he can be only a bit tipsy and uninhibited, while she is more likely to be completely beyond incoherent. It is not even just the difference in body mass. Men process alcohol more efficiently than women, even pound for pound. That doesn’t mean men cannot be raped while drunk. They are sometimes and it is also very bad. But it does mean that that the margin of error for “drank too mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:51 PM
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Such gibberish. No, literal actual things that have happened to me in real life. You just don’t like hearing anything that disrupt your “all men are always wonderful and women need to bat their eyes over every little thing a man does or else they’re idiots” worldview. I have never seen any man react negatively in this situation lol, you yourself are literally describing your own personal discontent anytime a woman doesn’t respond to your chivalry the exact way you want her to. You are the one wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:58 PM
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Is it really a personal insult to claim that most normal people cannot date 10/10 hotties? I can’t date hot models either. It’s not an insult, it’s normal reality for normal average looking people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:47 PM
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My experience is the exact opposite yeah, duh, you are not a woman. The only way you ever experience any version of "chivalry" is what you yourself dish out, and you think you're the hero no matter what you do. Fact is, sometimes being on the receiving end is annoying as fuck. Not always, but sometimes. Sometimes it's just annoying to have to walk faster and apologize for wasting the guy's time because he decided to open the door for you a mile too early. But no matter what he does, you will be …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:26 AM
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Well, I know for sure that "Erica" would absolutely not follow any of the red pill crap advice she totally believed in her heart that women should follow before being forcibly converted, lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:02 PM
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Probably not. There's a reason so many men who want "submissive" girlfriends are mad they can't find one-- a lot of people, male and female, don't want to do it full time. Being submissive is a lot more demanding, and a lot more thankless, that you are imagining.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 06:58 PM
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Once you realize women do it due to social expectation, self gain or just to feel good about themselves you realize they're being selfish. Ok, so we have determined that the thing you care most about is people’s internal feelings that you cannot actually observe. I personally care a lot more about actual observables with real world consequences. If someone actually does real genuine good for others in the world, their internal feelings does not change the good they did one bit. Someone you consi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:17 PM
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LITERALLY THE SAME MEN then argue that society should care about male loneliness because lonely men may become unstable, angry, violent, radicalized, etc. If they really believed women and relationships were so amazing at preventing violence and anarchy, and were such a critical part of building a society, they’d show more appreciation for it. Instead they just spend all their time shitting on women and calling women weak stupid animals. Obviously they don’t actually believe women are an importa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 11:44 AM
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That's why you can donate organs. Actually, no, still not the same. You can legally sell any of your private property, but you cannot legally sell your organs on any market for any price. It is donation only, with no financial compensation. So they are still not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 11:39 AM
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Why is it always men who are the most upset when women don’t require men to these empty gestures? I actually had a man get genuinely mad at me when I opened the door for him.was one of those vestibules with two doors in a row: he held the first door then I held the second… and he was legit upset I’d ’treated him like a woman’. In another case, I’ve had a man I know rip a suitcase out of my hand so he could stow it… and then tried to call me crazy when I objected to his “polite” gesture of yankin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 10:54 AM
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Considering in one answer, OP also expected the married friendless woman to be highly submissive… I suspect a lot of men would have very strong objections to that unstated part.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 10:42 AM
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society could fall apart. If society falls apart, it’s infinitely better to have a community of friends with a variety of skills, than. It is to have one lone man. Your husband cannot fight off a gang of violent men alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 10:40 AM
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OP’s mom. The answer is OP’s mom. I cannot believe you set up such an obvious roast question here 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:43 PM
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And yet the peak strongest men of all time are younger than that. Hmmm. Holds in most other strength or speed dominant sports also. The current world record 100m sprint was set by Usain Bolt at 22. Again, not 40. Most actual male athletes’ are not peaking in their mid 30s. It is fairly uncommon even in sports where experience lends athletes an edge for men to still be competitive at the top levels in their 30s. Tom Brady, Roger Federer, etc are exceptions to the rule… and in a similar exception,…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:32 PM
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male muscular strength and build peaks around mid 30's. No. And you can tell this by looking at the beat of the best. It is extremely exceptional for men in any sports to be the best in their 30s, and that is usually only in sports where non-strength skills are critical to high-level performance. For pure strength, male peak appears to occur in your mid-20s. For example, the current world record holder in Olympic weight lifting, Laksha Talakhadze, was 22 when he set his first WR. Not 35. He set …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 05:44 PM
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Nothing is more dangerous than a large group of men with nothing to live for and a ton of testosterone to burn. And yet when women have thrown themselves on the fire to appease these men and produce civilization itself… they get no credit for that self-sacrifice whatsoever. Your proposal is actually that women should submit themselves to violent dangerous men who are willing to blow up society… so that other men don’t have to deal with those shitheads. You do not care what happens to the women s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 12:29 PM
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You're not wrong, but what even is "up" as in dating up? Not gonna lie, I think you’re the first red pill man on this sub I’ve seen actually question the validity of the theory. The usual view seems to be that anything a woman is attracted to in a man proves he is “better” than her… but for some reason the things he is attracted to don’t count as any kind of value. And in reality, you’re exactly right. It doesn’t make any sense to use terms like “up”— dating is a market. If you find someone you …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 11:55 AM
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I am a woman and have discussed hypergamy at length here on many occasions. I am not blue pilled or woke, but I do not take the red pill beliefs about hypergamy seriously at all because, after having numerous discussions… I have seen repeatedly that it’s nothing but pseudoscientific claptrap. The biggest failure of the hypergamy belief system is that there is literally no kind of proof that you would ever accept that could disprove your beliefs. No matter who any woman dates, you’ll always find …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 11:08 AM
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It is not a good idea to do something self-destructive in an attempt you try to maybe temporarily (and maybe not) save someone else. You asking me if I would be willing to reluctantly spread my legs to satisfy men I don’t want to have sec with is like asking if I’d be willing to cut off my arms and legs to save them. I will not enact self harm on the very very stupid off chance that my pussy has magic medicine that can cure their mental illness. No. There are better ways to support someone than …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:38 PM
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I didn’t say most men are trying to commit murder. I said it is very challenging to commit murder and get away with it. Wanting to be desired and have sexual access to women, is much more universal. Wanting to be desired and to have sexual access to women is not universal. It is universal to straight men. Women wanting to be desired and to have sexual access to men is equally universal… yet this is condemned as “degenerate”. So no, you don’t get to pretend that there is some kind of psuedologic …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:19 PM
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Being able to get laid as a man is significantly harder than it is for a woman. That doesn’t explain why it’s admired by so many men. Getting away with murder is hard to, but considered degenerate. If society believes that promiscuous women are “degenerate”, why then is it not degenerate for a man to seek them out constantly? Why is it not considered degenerate for a man to try his very hardest to turn as many women into “degenerates” as possible? It’s because men are the ones defining this— you…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 11:16 AM
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Nothing better than seeing a red pill guy admit his worldview is that he really wishes there were less consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 12:14 AM
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Their behavior and words should be shamed sure. But using language that suggests simply being male (a “bro”) is part of the problem doesn’t really help. For this one I don’t really have a better term to offer off the top of my head, and they’ve apparently adopted it themselves. But it would be good if we could come up with a way to criticize them without shaming them for being men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 12:11 AM
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I know a lot of Bernie fans also called them selves Bernie bros, but it was also thrown around hy critics trying to imply that Bernie supporters were all just aggressive sexist angry white men. According to wikipedia, the term was coined by an Atlantic article as a pejorative to describe Bernie’s young white male supporters. Some of the criticisms of specific behaviors or actions were valid— there were some Bernie supporters who were using sexist attacks on Clinton, and Bernie himself spoke out …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 12:08 AM
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but I guess I've just never heard any concrete examples, I just heard of one specific one that’s a good example: the use on the Left of the word “bro” to dismiss membership by men (white men in particular) as bad. “Bernie bros”, “tech bros”, “podcast bros”, “passport bros”. Like… seems kinda sneering and dismissive of men. The term “bro” is meant to conjure up the idea of an obnoxious, inconsiderate frat boy… and the term “bro” is added to other things to dismiss them as not good. It feels a lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:45 PM
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Not something you can prove. Only pure speculation. These are literally women who are having multiple babies with rotten trash men… it’s evident that they have terrible decision making skills, lol. They are choosing men who have multiple baby-mommas and abandon all their kids, but you think these women are all smart planners? Dude, no. You’re talking about trashy women and you’re sad they don’t also let you be baby daddy #5. First of all, you say "only" like a third of women isn't a large amount…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:10 PM
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When did I make that argument? You’re continuing to argue that right here: when criminals have more sexual and reproductive success than the average man whose never been convicted of any crimes. With repeat offenders having the highest fertility rates. Where's all the evidence that women don't want men like this or are actively avoiding men like this? Those criminal men have high sexual success with women who are just like them! Your evidence that women, collectively, overall, on average, prefer…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:18 PM
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Those men are having those 20-30% more babies with a small subset of women who are also having way way more babies than average. Why do you extrapolate that all women want criminals from the fact that a small subset of women have 8 different baby daddies and 10 kids? And often are on drugs or criminals themselves? Perhaps those are the women red pillers most want to have as their wives— they’re willing to have the most babies with zero thought, after all, so that’s “winning” to red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:33 AM
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that doesn't mean all women would bang or marry psychopats, i mean, some do but not all. Yes, I know this is true. I am stating the red pill belief that women are inherently despicable by nature, not that they do not have free will to choose not to. But red pill also tells you that anytime she is fucking anyone other than a psychopath, she’s settling and doesn’t really like him at all. She’s just extracting resources from him. Remember, no matter what a woman does, according to red pill, she’s a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:28 AM
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Then define the duty in a way that excludes medical issues. I am not a genius and I can think of that. And how would that be monitored and enforced? Does the government decide who was too sick? What about exhaustion? Does that count as a medical issue or not? What about just medically unexplained pain? Your simple solution is an empty dismissal you didn’t think about at all. It is one example of something that could prevent your mandatory sex. Another is travel for work. Your rule is nobody ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:14 AM
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If I can't always fulfill my duty then I should not have taken that duty upon myself. Since nobody can promise honestly they can fulfill that duty (and never be sick or have a medical issue), it is nonsensical to build any marriages around it. I said hat women have a problem with having a duty towards their partners. Yes, you beleive that because you beleive sexual servitude is the only possible duty a woman could ever fulfill. Women fulfill many duties to their partners. They do not, however, h…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 08:12 PM
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AWALT doesn't have much of anything to do with instincts. I explained what I did because I find it interesting, even though it's not much related to the topic of AWALT. I can accept that is how you see it, but I disagree that lots of other RP dudes don’t think female biology isn’t AWALT. AWALT is often used in explaining hypergamy, for example. And even if you didn’t use the term AWALT… your explanation is very much that all women are indeed the same inherently. It's a lot less likely to blow up…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 08:04 PM
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Yes, this would apply to the husbands too. Please answer a little more directly. You would agree that men should be punished for not being able to maintain an erection or for being sick for a week? A dead-bedroom is akin to a jail sentence. Not having sex for 7 days due to the flu or childbirth is not a damned dead bedroom. Don’t be so dramatic. and then to refuse your partner There is a big fat difference between expecting someone to generally be willing to have sex most of the time but also un…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:57 PM
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You cannot always fulfill that duty, even if you intend to. You’d be punished for failing to get an erection or just for being sick or having a medical problem. You can stop whining that women don’t have to sign up to be rape slaves already.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:53 PM
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Would you sign up to be punished if you can’t give your wife an orgasm every week? Ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:38 PM
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So what’s the punishment to the husband if he can’t fulfill his end of the “sex every week” bargain? Would you sign up for marriage if one week where you can’t get an erection would bring legal punishment? Or would it be even stricter— you have to give her an orgasm every week or else the government steps in? Why do you not see how completely ridiculous and inflexible your idea is?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:35 PM
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Oh, I really really really dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:30 PM
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Sure you might say that those policies are gender neutral I have an IRL female friend paying a boatload of alimony to her ex husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:18 PM
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Still misunderstanding AWALT, I don’t see how it’s a misunderstanding. You just re-explained to me what I said. You just explained that women have natural biological evolved instincts and that sexual attraction is hardwired in all women in the same way… and that women are naturally attracted to criminals. The fact that a limited selection of women are able to act differently than the natural tendencies you assert women have doesn’t change the AWALT belief. I also did not claim that red pill says…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:01 PM
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The claim is that all women have the same inherent biological software and hardware. So are they all naturally sexually attracted to criminals or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 02:43 PM
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So again, it is red pill “AWALT” that does actually say that all women will systematically avoid mating with decent men at any cost. Thank you for showing exactly what I mean about red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 11:59 AM
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The claim goes way beyond that though. RP doesn’t just believe that those traits aren’t sexually attractive on their own. It believes that the exact opposite traits are the most sexually attractive to women. It is regularly argued by red pill that women only want “bad boys”, that all of them prefer immoral, criminal men, as well as men who are slutty and “only as loyal as his options”. “AWALT”.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 10:51 AM
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Yeah I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 12:35 AM
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Gen Z loves classic rock for its authenticity, story telling, and musical exploration. A lot of it lacks the “rule by committee” fake corporate approval your musical preferences lean towards. You answered my question. I answered your question: men have beeen making extremely sexual pop music for a long time. No, not rap music. The genre you claim is for white men only. I said nothing about rap music— you’re just being gross. Remember kid, it’s “sex, drugs, and rock n roll”, not “stuck-up prudes,…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 12:35 AM
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Who do you think is picking these 40 year old men as “sexiest man alive” if not the people trying to appeal to 40-60 year old women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 09:08 PM
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Quick search says his peak popularity was 1942-1944… when he was 26-28. Not 48.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 09:07 PM
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OP: “women’s self help stuff is terrible and way worse than red pill” Me: “nope, it’s terrible and exploitative too” You: “uh, no femslop is terrible” Why did you feel the need to add that comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:39 PM
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It is OP’s position. Which you jumped in to defend. I attacked them as equally dumb. Why did you comment against my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 05:51 PM
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Yes, I don’t know you at all. Good job. All I can respond to is your defense of OP. The point of OP is to claim that “femslop” is waaaay worse than “menslop” I disagree— they’re both crap. You are defending his position. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 04:05 PM
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Sure? If you think “femslop” suckers are so dumb and rotten, why are you trying your very hardest to imitate those losers?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:29 PM
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You know, there’s also a toooooon of non-abusive men who are also highly attractive and get into great long term relationships with women. Why are you only interested in finding out how the worst men get away with being evil? What is your motive? Do you have a personal preference for having a girlfriend who is unusually tolerant of abusive behavior? Do you believe that tolerating abuse is a signal that a woman is more attracted to a man? Why are you so focused on something that, while common, is…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:52 PM
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Red pill at its core tells men to change. Eh, mostly red pill at its core seems to tell men that women are hypergamous trash, so you have to grind before you can get one, use her, and throw her away. It’s about cultivating a cynical bitterness and avoiding real human relationships in favor of mere consumption of sex. The whole goal is to be a consumer of women: to use money and influence to get a rotation of women/plates you can treat like whores and replace when you get tired of them. And don’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:23 PM
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His past history shows that he highly values casual sex and fucking all those other women. There is zero chance I’m his one twoooo wuuuuuv, lol. He spent his youth and effort chasing the women he truly desired. Him wanting me to do his taxes and wash his sheets isn’t passion or desire. I’m not interested in being the fall-back plan of a “reformed” slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:15 PM
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So yes. In other words, there are the highly attractive women in sex work that you would spend your infinite time and effort on… … versus some average boring 30 year old who you are barely attracted to, but you guess you could probably have sex with her if she manipulated you into it. Yes. You are. obviously way way more attracted to the women you pick in porn/onlyfans versus the boring average woman in real life. Like dude, you don’t prefer the average 30 year old who has to work for it over th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:09 PM
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So in conclusion, Patriarchy does not inherently oppress women because matriarchy by definition does not oppress men. I have never seen a patriarchy that does not oppress women (and most men!), so I can’t draw the first conclusion. But I believe it is morally wrong to deny half the adult population access to social and political influence. I also have never seen any matriarchy, so I cannot draw the second conclusion. But I believe it is morally wrong to deny half the adult population access to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:13 AM
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Men jacking off to porn are obviously sexually attracted to those women, or you would equally be watching ugly woman porn, old woman porn, obese porn, etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:25 PM
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I stopped reading half way through your tirade. Ok, I won’t read yours either. You decided to ignore what I said and put lies in my mouth from the start with your “I don’t care what you actually say or believe, I Feeeeeeeeeeeeeel like you must support matriarchy”. There’s no point in a discussion with someone being so disgustingly dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:22 PM
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Porn is actually kind of different (not my “actual” preference). Why? Men are absolutely attracted to these women: they are literally experiencing sexual desire and ejaculating from merely looking at them. Is ejaculation not a sign of sexual attraction in men these days? There’s a pretty big difference between what modern men and women do. You’re being disingenuous Not even a little bit. I can observe that men simp for top tier beautiful women. They spend tons of attention and time and money on …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 07:39 PM
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We are able to hypothetically talk about matriarchy Based on what evidence? You can hypothetically make up whatever swill you want about whatever you want. But without any empirical evidence, it’s nothing but navel gazing. A bunch of pointless, unfalsifiable navel gazing may interest you, but it tells you nothing about reality and it seems entirely pointless for me to debate your imagination. And if matriarchy is just gender flipped patriarchy Why do you assume it would be? What is the basis for…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 07:32 PM
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Why would men designate stupid little weak creatures who need to be told what to do as the moral guardians of home and hearth? They were supposed to be weak protected little moral creatures sheltered from the world. They were simply supposed to exist as good kindly creatures that nurtured children and existed to make life pleasant for men. And at the same time they were believed to be too weak and stupid to be able to make choices or contribute to public life. Men were believed to be the ones wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 04:01 PM
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Yes there have been matriarchies. The Amazonians. The Cherokee Nation. Theres even a mountain village in china right now that is matriarchial. They were matriarchies, as in mothers ruled everything and men lacked access to public and private power? The Cherokee are/were matrilineal and egalitarian. Not a matriarchy. Matrilineal merely tells you how they traced family lineage. Power was fairly well balanced between men and women; women had social and political power, but so did men. And neither f…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 03:53 PM
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Well, I know some non-profit journalism exists. My wish is for less of the shitty crap. But unfortunately that makes money and propagates garbage. The not-for-profit tends to be fixed size. But yeah, in the US, like PBS got funding sliced by the current administration. Toodleoo public broadcasting. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 03:42 PM
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Ah, yeah I get that. I genuinely wish more of journalism was smarter and more considered. Instead of being so much stupid click-bait rage-bait shit. Lol, I’m fairly sure the internet is a mistake, at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 02:40 PM
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Well it's not impossible. It is as far as the entire sum of all human history is concerned. Is matriarchy the flipped version of patriarchy? How should I know? Upon what information should I be answering this question? It’s like you’re asking me: if horses ruled the world, would they be evil? What’s the point of such a ridiculous question? Because if it is then it would mean women hold more positions of power, they have more social control and privileges, they are more dominant across pretty muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 02:36 PM
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So youre assuming that patriarchy is bad and matriarchy is good No. You’re making up bullshit lies and putting them in my mouth. ** I have no assumptions about a matriarchy because matriarchies aren’t real**. They dont exist. Just like the tooth fairy. That’s not “good” or “bad”. That’s “I don’t know fucking anything about them becasue they aren’t real” I am making observations. I can observe patriarchies because they have existed. For example, the Catholic Church is explicitly a patriarchy. I c…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 02:18 PM
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The west is not a patriarchy, a small subset of men do hold disproportionate power though. Yeah. The Catholic Church is a specific exception— it is explicitly ruled by men only, and the rulers even call themselves “fathers”. They’re not technically fathers of in a biological family, but they also preach that the family structure should be male led. So I’m comfortable calling Catholicism a “patriarchy”. And like many patriarchies, they also do have it set up so that women are totally excluded fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 02:11 PM
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Sure. But I’m not a writer and nobody would read what I write. My point is that there is also a genuinely good reason to be more critical of a teenage boy using AI than a middle aged woman. The fact that they are not treated the same is not the issue: AI is a different problem for the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 01:02 PM
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How would anyone know what a matriarchy is like when there have never been any observed? It is stupid to ask a yes or no question about something where there is literally no way to know the answer. Your question is like “yes or no: do fairies have wings?”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 12:52 PM
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I would personally consider it a lot more dangerous for a child to use an AI for companionship than an adult. It’s not a condemnation of either— it’s a “oh no, not another predatory company exploiting kids for profit while ruining their chance to build life skills”. Kinda like how I view Facebook/insta.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 12:29 PM
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How would you even know? There has never been any known society on earth that was actually a matriarchy. Tell me, what matriarchies do you know that oppressed men? Why do you guys talk up impossible boogeymen like they’re a real threat to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 12:19 PM
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No, patriarchy is the rule by “the fathers”, not rule by men. It is a system where the eldest male or father figure has all the power in a family. Patriarchy does not mean “every man has a great life and rules over every woman, and every woman is treated like shit” Rule by all men would be something more like “andrarchy”. I don’t believe that the modern west is “A PATRIARCHY”. But lots of men being treated like shit or even fucking murdered is pretty par for the course with patriarchies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 12:16 PM
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We observe who you want to have sex with on Tinder, estimate how far that is from a guy who’s similar to you, and assume you’re settling. So we can observe who average men want to have sex with in porn and by who they follow on Instagram, estimate how far that is from a woman who is similar to him, and assume he’s settling too. What you’re saying is that men settle all the time and you expect women to be flattered by being his last choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 12:07 PM
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They think women too stupid to know when something isn’t pleasurable and will just do the sex thing anyways. Like sure, maybe that could work if you live in a religious society where women are taught exclusively that sex is their duty and it won’t feel good and women are forbidden to talk to each other. Then their little naive religious virgin will just think sex is miserable and try to avoid it as much as possible, but at least she won’t think it could ever be better. But being completely preve…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 12:01 PM
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It is men who are obsessed with hierarchical rankings and competition. Women really tend not to be nearly so obsessed with this kind of ranking thing. You are so obsessed with competition with other men that you have invented in your head a new sports arena for yourselves: women sitting around talking about who’s dating who. I have literally never ever been in a conversation with women I know that sounds like this bizarre male-competition sporting event you describe. Is there some dumb Hollywood…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:48 AM
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There are men who aren’t able to attract women who are mature, even if they are mature themselves. There are also a whole lot of men who don’t want a mature woman. Certainly not if she comes in a mature package. What they often want is a woman who is actually 19 but has the emotional maturity of a 38 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 11:48 PM
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🤣 This whole post is killing me. 🍿 There’s no sex or drugs in his rock n’ roll, gosh dern-it! And also rock is for stuffy sticky britches men only! No girls allowed!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 09:05 PM
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If the women choose this, that's their business. Oh, so you don’t actually give a shit about telling the difference. Why ask the question if your response is just gonna be “pfft, it doesn’t matter anyways”?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 08:30 PM
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lol, fair, the neceophilia thing is the music video
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 07:21 PM
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OP is just admitting that either his only exposure to rock music is Christian rock, or that he doesn’t ever listen to the lyrics.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 05:52 PM
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here’s some classic rock sex songs: “pour some sugar on me”, “you shook me all night long”, “mama’s got a squeeze box”, “cherry pie”, “rock you like a hurricane”, “Cum on feel the noize”, “hot for teacher”, “Pussy” (yes, it’s really a rock song. By rammstein), “let me put my love into you”, “slide it in”, “sex type thing”, “Fuck Time”, “cover you in oil”, “sweet head”, “whip it”, “sin”, “tonight (we need a lover)”, “love in an elevator”, “why don’t we do it in the road” (yeah, the Beatles have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 05:48 PM
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I’ll add just one another and elaborate just so it’s super clear it’s not just Prince. Songs include: “Gett off”, “Head”, “Soft and Wet”, “Erotic City”, “Do me baby”, “insatiable”, “sex in summer”, “I wanna be your lover”, “sexy dancer”, “Jack U Off”, “DSMR” (dance music sex machine)… And that’s just a list of titles. It’ll blow OP’s probably-literalist mind, but there’s a lot of songs about sex that aren’t immediately obvious. Like, “Little red corvette” is not about a fancy car. It’s an ode to…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 05:24 PM
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You don't have to extremely pretty, usually just not overweight. This describes me just fine. Nobody has ever offers to finance me or support me like this. You are delusional. Ive seen youtubers do experiments pretending to be average girls Your impression of “average girl” is an 8/10 hot 22 year old. Of the thousands of potential matches women get, I sure as fuck never got “thousands of potential matches”, lol. This is just brain rot YouTube shills feeding you conspiracy crap. Actual normal ave…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 05:07 PM
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Women don't and can get by if they just maintain their appearance Only if they are very pretty… same as very good looking men. You just don’t see the rest of us at all. At no point in my life have I ever been able to “get by” on solely my appearance. Nobody ever gave me food or shelter for my looks. And no, before you start throwing insults and moral judgements, I was never fat or hideous, just ordinary looking. I wore makeup and nice clothes. Nobody treated me like a fuckin princess for that sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:59 PM
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The critique is not about women working, but women pursuing careers and entering the workplace. So your critique isn’t the idea that women worked… it’s that you just don’t like it when women got paid well for their work or got credit for it. In your ideal world, women should only ever work for minimal to no pay and no recognition! Explains a lot about why you RP guys love are obsessively pushing this falsehood that men created civilization all on their own, and women’s labor contributed nothing …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 12:53 PM
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Women seem to be mad about how modern men have a different mindset towards them than men of the past lol where on earth are you finding these modern women mad that modern men are not more like they were 70 years ago? 🤣 Seriously, what???? Where these women sad that they can’t get smacked on the ass at work and then told to “cool it, toots” when she objects? Like… did you read all the red pill whining that women today aren’t more submissive and obedient like their grandma, then flip the genders i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:07 AM
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But all women have to be is a normal woman for us to be just as in the dark And yet you absolutely expect women to understand men enough to soothe them and give them peace and satisfy them in every way. Why can’t you put in the kind of work you expect from women? Women are not aliens and men are not this pathetically stupid. This is just excuses for taking the easy path of “oh women must be all bad” instead of seeing women as actual humans. Anyone who cannot even fathom that women are actually v…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 12:07 AM
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First, answer my question: how exactly is having to sit still and be quiet in school teaching girls to view men as “evil”. You alleged it. Now answer the question. How does sitting still in school brainwash girls into hating men, like you alleged? Now for your “well, actually just some Disney teen shows”… which ones? You originally said from an early age, and alleged it was any TV show. To point out that literally every popular early age tv show for kids isn’t doing anything you say is the oppos…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 02:30 PM
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I’m asking a specific question: you said kids are taught in TV shows from a young age. Which TV shows are you talking about. You made a claim. You say you have no clue what is in kids shows… even though you just confidently claimed that you know they’re full of man-hating. Why did you make that up? It seems quite dishonest. For starters classrooms themselves are built around feminine structures. Boys do better with hands on learning and moving. Not sitting down and being quiet. Long before girls…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 12:33 AM
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You say it’s from an early age… can you point to some little kids shows that paint men poorly now in the west from an early age? Cuz I’m lookin at bluey, paw patrol, cocomelon, peppa pig, Sesame Street, blue’s clues, Daniel tiger, Thomas the tank engine, my little pony, Pokemon… I’m honestly not sure I see where you’re seeing men painted poorly, specifically. For example, right now bluey is globally the most popular little kid show… and it’s totally positive about their dad and uncle and male fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 07:19 PM
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Men who throw punches know almost to a certainty they will get hit back. No really, its actually still the same. They both expect to win, and are shocked if they don’t. It just takes less hits for the woman to loose, but the expectation is still the same. Like, I cannot believe you really seriously think dumb violent men are always starting a fight with sober realistic expectations? What is it Mike Tyson said? Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face. I don’t think he was talking …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:45 PM
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I just acknowledge that you tried to attack me personally— telling me to calm down is directed at me personally. That doesn’t mean I am taking it personally. It’s also embarrassing for you that you keep trying to mind read instead of actually answering the question. As for length— sometimes it takes more than 3 words to explain something. I already told you the reasons. You may pretend they don't exist, but they do. So you’re not going to answer why you choose to ignore the stupid violent men wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:51 AM
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Again, you are taking this way too personal I haven’t taken anything personal. I’m just aware that “calm down” is used as a cheap tactic to dismiss people without actually presenting an argument. I already told you. Men fully expect to be hit back, when they throw hands. Women expect the dude will just take it and don't defend himself. And I already told you: stupid violent men are totally likely to go surprised pikachu face when they get his hard. My question was why is it so important to you t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:37 AM
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Ahhhhh. Got it, yeah, that makes total sense. I thought you meant like “somewhat willing to consider consent”, since your first sentence referred to you always having consensual sex, and then said most men in online dating are somewhat like this (the first sentence). For the record, I do agree that using “saught sex with a stranger” is a bad metric for sexual coercion. It is totally possible for two strangers to discuss things and mutually consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:28 AM
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I am calm. You’re just overreacting. Telling someone to “calm down” because you don’t like what they said is a cheap lazy attack on the person, not an actual argument or refutation. So why did you feel it was so important to spin up a non-existent difference between stupid violent women and stupid violent men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:21 AM
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Those strangers I had sex with were consensual. This is totally possible I’m pretty sure every guy who has ever used online dating has been somewhat like this You think literally every man on online dating is… “somewhat” not a rapist. Huh? Kinda makes your first claim a lot more suspect when you barely think online dating rape is even possible. You do know that going on a date isn’t actually automatic consent, right? Like I’m just baffled that you think any man in online dating is automatically …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:59 AM
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and then pikachu face when she gets punched Did you miss the part where I said people who hit others over words are stupid people? Stupid people play stupid game and are often shocked at the stupid prizes they win. There’s a bajillion stupid violent dudes who look totally shocked when the person they hit turns out to be good at hitting back, too. Stop trying to stir up some explanation for why you think stupid violent men are somehow smarter or more noble than stupid violent women. There’s reall…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 07:51 AM
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I didn’t say otherwise. I agree it’s a huge risk to date someone with a lot more money/power than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 07:38 AM
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Why do you think some men feel entitled to hit people? Same as women. People who hit someone over words are violent, shitty, stupid people. Next question.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 07:19 AM
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How can you tell the difference? Some of them say that’s why they went to that country: because they can use their financial leverage to get a woman to be submissive to them. I’m willing to assume they mean what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 12:45 AM
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Your gender will keep trying to dodge accountability What exactly do you think accountability means? Like, in a practical sense. Like, describe what you think it would look like if women were sufficiently accountable to your tastes. And explain to me how you think men are meeting this goal. For example, how are you holding yourself accountable here? So far all you’ve done is call women constitutionally illogical and dumb— it certainly doesn’t seem that you ever hold yourself accountable for trum…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 12:25 AM
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Wrong, we say that women settle all the time, You say women settle for men they have no attraction to, but also that he’s still superior. the point is that they always WANT to date up No, you define anything that is attractive to women as automatically superior. Meanwhile, you define anything that is attractive to men as inferior or “doesn’t count”. So men have to partner with people that are constantly judging and comparing them You say this while you are literally comparing women and always fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:26 PM
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its not being taller than her, its about being taller compared to other men, The word “hypergamy” refers to a comparison against her own height and status. You guys keep changing the definition so you can find some way to demonize women for every action they could possibly take. which is why a 5'6 man thats taller than her, shes still going to find the 6'3 man much more attractive And I promise, that when she dates a man who is exactly her own height, you will still call her a hypergamous whore.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:48 PM
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I think part of the issue is that a great deal of our sexual morality is still nested in the assumption that in a healthy society there should be high heterosexual pairing rates. Why do you think that simple pairing would be more moral than less? Is the optimal, most moral pairing rate 100%? Do you just mean pairing males with desirable females, where there really genuinely are nowhere enough hot young women to go around for all the men who want them? What if that extreme pairing requires force?…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:32 PM
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Guy deleted his comment before I could post, so I’ll respond here, because he’s right that I misread… but then also wrong in thinking that clothing will somehow mitigate the risk of harm. Starting here: You’re right, you said it differently. I hadn’t had my coffee yet. However, the point is still true in regard to what you said also: there is also no kind of clothing you can wear as a woman where people will not blame you for being raped. It is a human psychological failing: we want to believe t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:44 PM
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The same kinda guy who falls for “get rich quick” scams, probably. Or the guy who thinks he’s gonna loose 100 pounds and get ripped by taking a tablespoon of apple cider vinegar a day or whatever weird gimmick is around today. Some people are always looking for that one cheap and easy trick. They dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:01 PM
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If a womans number one priority was not safety but to have immunity against ignorant men saying its their fault then they would all be wearing full veils head to toe like in islamic countires. You are ignorant and naive to believe that wearing full-body veils prevent rape, or even reduces it. Rapists are the ONLY people who cause a rape to happen. Nobody else. There is literally no clothing I could possibly wear that would “make” someone rape me. You’re exactly the kind of man that TermAggravati…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 11:30 AM
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Average women are never going to admit to doing or being something others around them consider 'bad'. OP specified height as a key example of this female hypergamy you all have determined is so deeply immoral. So explain: what specifically is either moral or immoral about a height preference that conforms to basic human sexual dimorphism? Most men are quite a bit taller than most women— this is basic human biology. So what specifically to you think is immoral about an average woman dating an ave…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:30 AM
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Since when does a man being tall mean he is superior to her? It is basic biological fact that most men are taller than most women. If you think a woman dating a man taller than herself is “hypergamy”, or dating up… you’re really just saying you think most women are inferior to most men. The average man is, after all, very significantly taller than the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:14 AM
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I was horribly pathetic and unwanted in dating. I don’t expect I’d do any better as a man. Why do you guys always always always imagine that average boring mediocre-looking women are somehow saught-after like supermodels and rock stars? It’s like the only women you think are real women are the ones who are well above average. My dating experience was a full decade of being totally ignored. I could easily achieve that exact same level of virginity as a man, lol. Success!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:24 PM
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if you attack every man everywhere and say literally everything about them is inherently shit, you are dissing masculinity. Yes. And if you attack every woman everywhere and say literally everything about them is inherently shit, you are dissing femininity. Duh. If you think the only good traits of femininity are traits you think literally zero women have… why are you even calling those traits “feminine” in the first place? Femininity is, by definition, a list of traits associated with women and…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:43 PM
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None of that is thrashing femininity, No. For example, claiming that no women anywhere in all of history contributed to civilization is absolutely thrashing femininity as worthless, if you believe that at least some women were ever feminine. It is saying femininity is worthless— that is absolutely a dig. you want to categorize any critique of women's behavior as thrashing Nonsense. If you attack every woman everywhere and say literally everything about them is inherently shit, you are dissing fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 11:49 AM
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Give me examples. Red pillers describing women as having no accountability, being “incapable of love”, that women are leeches who date men to “drain them of their resources”, arguing that men alone built civilization and women never contributed anything of value ever, claiming that women are always inferior in every way to anyone they have sex with (“hyperrrrrrrgamy”), claiming that women are innately solipsistic and can’t think logically (for example, your bros used to love the “female rational…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:35 AM
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In the real world, we make lemonade And apparently blame women for it, lol. It is still exactly 100% correct in saying that, if your whole process will break or go into full panic overtime mode if one or two people on the team get sick or having a funeral or go on medical leave or just quit, then your team is desperately, stupidly understaffed. Your requirement that women should just never have children so they can better ensure you can maintain a skeleton crew is blaming the wrong people for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 01:32 PM
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A correctly staffed company doesn’t actually do this— if there is sufficient staff and competent planning, the workload of the woman on maternity leave is spread out and slowed down to prevent anyone being overworked. In addition, you’re supposed to take paternity leave too, so you can bond with your children instead of just dumping all the work on your wife and still expecting her to do a full time job plus full time childcare. You guys wonder why the birthrate is low… and then sit here and say…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 12:37 PM
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It's just "if you don't like the unfairness, leave" dressed up in slight-of-hand word salad. “If you don’t like it, then leave” is the primary mechanism of changing the dating market. Men don’t like ugly women, so they don’t date them. Women respond by wearing makeup and dressing better and trying to look their best. And ugly women get outcompeted by the ones who look better and have way fewer choices of who to date… just like has always been true. Likewise, if men don’t want to pay for expensiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 12:26 PM
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because you can’t be kind and abusive I agree you can’t be an all-around kind person and be abusive… But it’s more complicated than that. Abusers can get lots of cover from the rest of the community because they are warm and kind to other people while being abusive to their select targets. People will think “no, he/she is such a good person; these accusations of abuse must be a lie,” and defend the abuser… and even attack the person being abused for making the accusation. Unfortunately, you can’…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 12:13 PM
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We don't we seek feminity Red pillers trash femininity every chance they can. it's a defense of masculinity rather than an attack on feminity. And the “best defense” you could come up with was to attack your enemies: women. Women don't provide it anymore because it's better for them You don’t need to pretend like actually being respected is some kind of scam. Red pillers demonstrate themselves how much they fucking despise women providing traditional feminine labor. You call women who do traditi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 07:14 PM
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Reality obviously can never compete with the idealised version of women that men invented in their own minds. You also don’t mention how miserable it is for women to know they cannot ever possibly live up to the fantastical ideal image that men conjured up as how they think women are supposed to be. You’d be expected to live up to this magical, impossibly angelic fairytale creature image, and no matter what you do or how hard you try, he will be angry at you for failing to live up to this ideal …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 02:06 PM
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Smart people… Would not lower themselves to implying others are simple. So why did you do exactly that? Although I suppose you didn’t imply it, you just said it directly: Women are simple
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:51 PM
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You cannot demand high levels of male productivity and civilizational contribution while simultaneously destroying the biological and social incentives — pair bonding, respect, and family formation — that historically motivated men to strive and achieve. You know, if women providing sex and relationships to men is the only reason society and civilization exists, why aren’t you red pillers more grateful to women for building civilization? Why do you give infinite praise to men and masculinity for…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:26 PM
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Those are not rewards. That's what you get as exchange for your services, aka work. Yeah, they are rewards. A reward is something given in exchange for good behavior, a service rendered, or an achievement. Thats the definition of reward. Why do women literally become hard core conservatives when it comes to dating issues. Why do red pill men want women to be publicly distributed welfare product that distributes sex to men indiscriminately, but then also call them whores if they have sex with mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:05 PM
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Okay, all the more reason for women to work hard at learning skills that are actually valued, instead of performing ones that men don’t respect and are, as you describe them, talentless snd unremarkable. If being feminine and a housewife and a mother is trashed and disrespected by men, women will learn different skills to avoid being treated that way. Being treated as a mediocre worker dude is better than being treated like a disrespected house servant. You yourselves incentivize women to not wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:53 PM
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Definitely not. I didn’t fuck around. Why on earth would I settle for a man who did? I want to be actually special to the guy I’m with, not just be fuckhole #17, or #26, or #85. I am not interested in being his last choice boring woman he settled for after he had his fun with the women he actually found attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:28 PM
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It's said in response to the constant vilification of men and masculinity by feminazis and it's intented to be a symbolic way for men to reclaim their masculinity. Lol, you can’t ride on a moral high horse while acting exactly the same as the people you hate. And dude, no, you don’t get to pretend you’re just out to defend yourselves against mean “feminazis”. The term “AWALT” makes it very clear you are targeting all women and femininity. You guys view all women and femininity as evil worthless …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:24 PM
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I’m obviously not psychic and can’t know exactly what your intention is, You can know not to be rude, though. And you can know how to behave decently towards others. but if you think men aren’t going to see that and not think “sex” you are either a moron or acting in bad faith. Lol, I agree they’ll think “sex” at that: they think sex at everything. Men will think “sex” no matter what women do. Men think “sex” at women wearing huge puffy full body coats in winter. They think “sex” when they see m…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:20 PM
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I do think this one is on women for, to use the language of my foremothers, dressing like whores. If women all dressed way way more modestly than they do today, you’d say the women showing their ankles or not wearing a veil were whores. It isn’t actually the clothes you wear or the amount of skin you show that make men treat you with disrespect. It’s whether they feel like you are breaking some kind of cultural standard or rule and deserve to be called a whore for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:50 AM
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There’s levels to this shit but leveraging your sexuality absolutely is a viable path for women, A viable path to getting dicks, but nothing else. Not to actually getting anything useful or valuable done. Men don’t respect a woman for being slutty. They respect men for being slutty. (Cue all the “it’s easy for a woman to be slutty but hard for a man” rationalizations of their feelings). Gotta still be classy and have self respect. Yes. Men will respect you for other things, not for fucking aroun…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 08:04 PM
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No no no, if Hillary had just flashed her titties at the debates, she’d have been crowned the god-empress of the universe. /s, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:04 PM
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They’re benign in the sense of who cares what others think. If you wanna suck dick you’re gonna suck dick anyway, why pretend like you aint? 🤷🏾‍♂️ Because you want respect more than some rando taking a beej then refusing to return the favor. Most people care about respect in life. If nobody respect you, you will be treated like absolute shit. Most people don’t want to be treated like shit 🤷‍♀️ And if someone wants a long term relationship with someone, they definitely care what that person think…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:50 AM
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seriously these are benign You know they are not benign. They are the terms men use to describe women they think are trash. The only men who don’t like sluts are the one’s who aint getting laid According to your red pill, that’s the vast majority of men. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:48 PM
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It’s not apologetics. I’m not addressing her video at all. I’m addressing the fact that you do not understand what satire is. Satire I usually involves taking the premise very seriously in order to point out the absurdity of the premise itself. The fact that you claim any satire is automatically a deadly serious advocacy for the subject being satirized means you are not competent to argue the meaning of any alleged satirical piece of media. Again, satire is very much not a case of “bad thing bad…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:46 PM
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If women didn't have a strong in group bias you would have a point. Women do not have a strong in-group bias when it comes to sexual competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 05:02 PM
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It's very clear that this YouTuber deliberately armed her audience with the ammo they'd need to promote Again, satire isn’t making a bunch of very deadly serious points they intend to mobilize and follow through on then saying ‘lolz jk’ at the end. Like, you must’ve read Jonathan Swift’s “a modest proposal” and really genuinely thought he was proposing a restaurant franchise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 05:01 PM
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This post kinda vaguely reminds me of that time in the early 2000s when whatever conservative leader person watched The Colbert Report, believed very genuinely that Stephen Colbert was a true died-in-the-wool conservative, emphatically did not understand the show was satire… and then invited him to give the key speech at the White House correspondent’s dinner praising the president. … and Colbert got on stage mocked the absolute shit out of then President Bush. 🥲. So great.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:51 PM
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Then I say at the end "lolz jk" You don’t seem to understand the definition of the word “satire”. Satire is not “lolz jk”. Like, regardless of whatever point you’re making or this rando video, you are very clearly demonstrating a total lack of media literacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:42 PM
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You cycle through many men in relationship and sexual experience and usually you downplay it as the 'past'. This does not even remotely describe my life. Like, not in the slightest. But you will always manufacture whatever demons you fear to feed your insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:46 PM
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No difference to me— both dudes are sluts who don’t share my sexual values. Neither of them treats sex like it’s something special to be shared with someone you care about. I would never dare either of these guys. Ever. Ew.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:56 PM
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There are women who do this, and men call them any number of horrible horrible names. “Whore”, “H03”, “trashy”, “slut”, “used up”, “run through”…. Im sure you know more names for women who treat men as interchangeable sexual objects. But you know that all of those names are deliberately degrading. Men don’t actually like women who see men as interchangeable— you all want to be the one special dude to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:52 PM
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is an entire kink category that is centered around women's feminine self having a sort of alluring "soft" power Oh wow, one whole kink out of thousands? There’s also entire kink categories about using knives, rape, balloons, ball gags, orgies, feet, cantaloupe… anything you can imagine, there’s a kink for it. Saying women’s power is that there’s a niche kink fetishizing community that play-acts an alternate universe where women are in charge of everything is just ludicrous as evidence that women…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:49 PM
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Men do have a monopoly on having penises. That is also not a monopoly. A monopoly is a market structure where a single company or entity is the sole provider of a specific good or service, with no viable substitutes. Neither gender can even remotely be described as a “single company or entity”. Women are not a unified corporation, and neither are men. Women and men are individual actors in a very large free market where there is a ton of competition. If you do not get your breeding with one woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:38 PM
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But for other things you don't have a monopoly Fully half the population having the equal ability to do something is, by its very definition, not a monopoly. It’s like saying men have a monopoly on having penises… all 4 billion of them each have a monopoly. You’re using that word monopoly to try to pretend “women” are all one singular collective capitalist unfair-owner of the means of production… as if it is deeply unfair that they’re just regular people who each make their own choices about the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 11:41 AM
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Because men most of the time arent the selectors So men have no agency and they are forced to chase after evil women and have no self control? If an abusive evil woman came up to you and offered you sex, you’d just be forced to accept. Lol, this must be that “male accountability” I keep hearing so much about from red pillers! 🤣 It must be sad to be so helpless and incapable of making moral decisions while demanding so loudly that every woman on earth should be a perfect angel so you don’t ever h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:50 AM
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Being red pilled doesn’t mean that you cannot fall in love with a woman and form a bond with her that will last a lifetime. Red pill tells you to kill your “oneitis”, to never get married, and that women are worthless stupid evil trash. And it tells you that all women are good for is their very temporary looks. So… no, there’s no room for love in that philosophy. The red pill’s purpose is to help prevent men from getting hurt or used by manipulative women. “AWALT”, remember? Red Pill’s purpose i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:37 AM
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You keep lumping me in with “all men” Lol, no, I definitely do not think “all men” are psycho youth obsessed weirdos like red pillers always claim all men are. I thought it was pretty clear that I was criticizing red pill men very specifically, considering I specified that repeatedly… but I guess even with that absolutely simple easy to read clarification, you still conjured up some “all men” whatever inside your head. What was the basis of you to assume that I would divorce my wife if she grows…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:22 AM
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I’m 99% sure you would never consider dating or marrying a crippled guy Depends. Women are not men. But I certainly wouldn’t ever be such a nasty smug asshole at him as you guys are to women: I wouldn’t tell him that he’s worthless, like you do to women for the crime of simply not killing themselves before they hit the wall, lol. And dude, I am 100% sure I wouldn’t consider that dude because I’m married and not a cheater. Maybe cheating is the way you red pill dudes get around being stuck with y…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 12:08 AM
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This comment seems to be completely unrelated to my comment above it. Did you reply to the wrong comment or copy paste the wrong thing or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:45 PM
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“The wall” is how Red Pill men express that they don’t want anyone long term. They only want a rotating harem of young interchangeable women, not a long term intimate relationship with a woman who ages with them. They are telling you very frankly that they are not capable of love. It is a sad handicap, but they like to brag about it for some weird reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:43 PM
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Then there are virginal women who reach 30 and are still very desirable and respectable Lol, from experience, I promise you dudes like you do not respect or value women like that. Red Pillers just auto-assume they are sluts anyways and call them ugly, disgusting, old, and unfeminine. Regardless of their sexual history. You tell yourself this as virtue signaling … but you do not actually respect or desire any real human women who meet that criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:37 PM
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Men are mostly attracted to youthful appearance. If what he picks you for is your youthful appearance, he’s going to dump you when that fades. All you’re telling women is to never ever count on a long term relationship. A woman’s youth is far better spent dedicating herself to setting up long term earning potential than to impressing a man with her inevitably temporary looks. Look at Megan Fox for example. She used to be the most beautiful woman on the planet, but now even any average college ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:31 PM
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And then once she hits the 30, she suddenly has an epiphany self awareness after witnessing all her friends getting married or had kids around that age If she’s 30 and single, but she is freaking out because all her friends are already married and have kids… … wouldn’t that kinda obviously suggest you’re hyperfocusing on a small minority of women who aren’t desired by men? If most women are getting married and having kids in their late 20s, what is your obsession with the exceptions who don’t fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:31 PM
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You could try dating virtuous women instead of chasing exclusively after looks, too. But you have no interest in “rewarding” women for anything. If women are just “rewards”, according to your description, they shouldn’t get any “reward” themselves for good behavior anyways… and according to your description, a virtuous man is not a reward for her. It’s a one-sided thing you set up in your head, not a reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:14 PM
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Hard environments makes people tough and strong, comfortable ones makes people weak and soft Tough environments do not necessitate treating your wife like property? In places where women’s (everyone’s) labor is much more critical to survival… you think that’s when men most want to beat them and treat them like cattle? I don’t see why that would make any logical sense. it's mostly ideological and moral than anything. I don’t agree that money and resources inherently makes people more moral. Plent…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:11 PM
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You think it is reality that… women exist to reward men for good behavior and that sex is analogous to a a gold star or blue ribbon or a cash bounty? Like I said before— a man who thinks that way is never going to be good at sex. And you’re just plain wrong, because those “rewards” don’t agree with you that they are just prizes to be won. In actual reality, where most humans live, women are people with agency who make choices based on their own desires. It is incredibly self-centered to imagine …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:00 PM
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"Wife material" means "I am not only extremely attracted to you physically, but I also see you as a kind, honest person who I can trust and want to spend my life with. And if we had met earlier it would have been even better". No, to Red Pill men, casual sex is their ultimate desire. and marriage is a desperate loser fail state you get stuck with. For Red Pillers (and a lot of men who seek casual sex), “wife material” means “you’re my boring fall-back plan I’ll settle for becasue I couldn’t get …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:50 AM
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It's the same reason why afghan men and others didn't do it, another pratical reason is that rich civilization can afford giving women equal rights. But why is it that treating women like human beings instead of livestock is a luxury reserved only for the extremely affluent? It does not logically follow that lack of money means women should be treated like shit. Like, I agree that seems to be somewhat of a modest correlation in the modern era… but that really isn’t true across all places and tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 11:13 PM
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33rd through 79th percentiles being grouped together is… a choice. Like, if 33rd percentile men are getting 7 partners during their lifetime, then ya’ll are whining a whole lot about nothing. They’re not incels. Average men are average. Like boohoo, you have to grow up sometime and accept that you’re not ever gonna be a billionaire too. Men don’t treat me like the most beautiful woman on earth either, dude. I have absolutely zero desire to ever date a man who sees fucking 100+ women as the bare …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:48 PM
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For countries in wars or with a significant poverty, it's hard to sit down and think about the rights of minorities I agree with that… but then why is the automatic default always “men are special and important, and women are nothing but their lowly servants”? being a woman in conditions where high birth rates and phisical strength are a must, that doesn't don't put them in a position of power. Why though? Is birth and childrearing not critically important to society? Why is it not a position of…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:35 PM
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So when I consider equal relationships, I consider individuals who have the least differences in experiences. Literally every person alive as different experiences. Everyone. I don't think it's meaningful to stress something that is inherent to all humans. My argument states that men and women CAN have equal relationships, and that technology creates this equality by limiting the amount of influence that our biological structures have on our outcomes in life. Apologies, then. I misunderstood wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:27 AM
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They absolutely weren't slaves, but just because they weren't slaves doesn't mean that they weren't considered property in the west. No, you’re allowed to destroy and/or kill your own property. You weren’t allowed to equivalently destroy your wife. You also could not buy her or sell her on a market, like you could your property. Men actually had real legal obligations to their wives, limited though those were, which they did not owe to their things. Women were not considered property in the west…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 09:03 PM
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Men are ethical because they choose to participate in the democratic machinery Meaningless tautology. “Men choose to participate in democracy because they chose an ethical belief system that says they should participate in democracy.” Women then vote on it Democracies existed for well over a century before granting women the right to vote. Obviously lots of men who supported democracy did not support democracy for women. Supporting democracy for rich land owners did not require, nor did it desir…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:16 PM
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It’s not as simple as all those people hate women while the Western man was so egalitarian. I don’t mean to imply this, or to claim that western men are uniquely wonderful or something. But likewise, I think it’s hard to claim that sharia law is egalitarian in most Islamic states where it is practiced. There’s a number of fairly wealthy nations that practice sharia law, and no, those countries do not use their wealth to empower women. And for the context of this subreddit… well, the argument put…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:13 PM
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I agree it’s not a simple answer. I was interested in seeing some different ideas and thoughts in a discussion, rather than just passively listening. Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:54 PM
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Hhmmm yeah, having all western women become communist defectors over the prospect of equal rights would have been a serious catastrophe for non-soviets, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:53 PM
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Women’s rights is just one part of the greater “equal rights” movement - all people created equal and deserving equal opportunities. This is a good point! Although I’ll also push back— why is that movement not more global and universal? Why didn’t it start 1000 years ago… or 10,000 years ago? If you believe in Democracy, that everyone gets a say in what affects them, it become increasingly difficult to support inequality. I agree… but then the question becomes: why is democracy a western value, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:52 PM
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I was under the impression that the basis for western civilization has been through the marriage, in which the woman becomes property of the man. They even take the man's last name because it signifies her as being the husband's property. For the most part, wives were not slaves in the west. There is an incredibly huge gap in how men treated their wives versus how they treated their slaves. And legally, wives did have significantly better rights than slaves. For example, it was totally legal in …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:39 PM
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Because western men are actually moral and ethical and want cooperative relations with women. Why do you believe this? As in, what is the possible reason for why this could even possibly be the case? Like, there are tons of non-western men who come to western countries and become westernized. Do you think that western men who move abroad automatically become less moral, less ethical, and begin to eschew cooperative relationships in favor of contentious, domineering ones? If bad, antisocial men s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:26 PM
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From a purely economic perspective, the liberalization of women means more workers and consumers, which grows the economy. So in other words, from your perspective, it is economic pressures that enabled (and drove) women to leave the home, rather than a cultural motivation, where western men decided to liberate men because they were nicer. Yeah, I tend to agree with that. I think feminism itself largely happened as a result of the change of the economy: machines were taking women’s in-home jobs …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:18 PM
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That’s true, the west is hyperindividualistic, and that likely plays some role. And good response. I agree western enlightenment ideals pushed for more personal freedoms… but then… why did they catch on in the west, but those same ideals haven’t really taken hold in some other cultures? It was a big cultural shift for westerners too. And if a decline in sexism is just a cultural thing, is it just random, and if we rolled the dice again starting in, say, the year 1400, maybe it would be Cameroon …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:44 PM
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I think this is a very thoughtful answer, and I agree with it overall. I think women’s economic productivity in the financial economy is largely what drives female liberation and freedom. Whenever women’s labor has value in a way that people outside the home can consume, women have more freedom and more participation in society. Women’s labor in the home, in contrast, seems not to contribute to women having any say in the greater society. And I’ll also agree that education did change things for …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:30 PM
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I agree that men usually do love their own wives and daughters, but presumably they do even in the worst sexist shit holes of the world and in history. But why would the gap between decent loving men and hateful sexist shits be so vast in different countries? It doesn’t seem likely that it’s just random chance, considering how stable these cultures are over time. Or is it just chances where an unusual random surge in trash shit men ruin it for everyone, and then there’s a ton of momentum behind …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:05 AM
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That’s a reasonabl thought, but I’ll push back on it. Western civilization has been relatively permissive of women for a pretty long time. In particular, western women were generally not forced into marriages against their will and had some limited rights and protections well before technology like the pill. For example, the feminist movement kicked off in the mid 1800s and women earned the right to vote in 1920 in the US… I don’t think I’ve seen anyone claim that women of the 1910s were “outsou…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:02 AM
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So do the absolute most rotten women. For example, men all ofer this sub are apparently deeply sad that the totally immoral and insane women who chase after serial killers won’t be their beloved little waifu and raise their kids to be serial killers themselves. The reality is that it is silly to expect all women to live their whole existence to serve as morality prizes. Like, you know men don’t do that for women— absolutely evil, cruel, awful women will still find themselves adored by loads of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:50 AM
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>Does your body and brain react differently when around men who won in their competitions compared to those who lost? uh, my body and brain reacts differently around men I am attracted to. I really honestly do not care if some dude wins a bowling competition if he's not hot. Honestly, some of you make it pretty clear that having sex itself is more about "winning" against other men than about enjoying sexual intimacy. Women tend to care a lot less about men's silly dick measuring competitions tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 06:28 PM
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I think there is no reason for you to make personal comments about my relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 06:24 PM
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>Men are basically told since adolescence that being unable to attract any women sexually is a personal and moral failure. People are told a lot of wrong and dumb things. It is easily observable in real life that women do not "reward" good behavior with endless casual sex and it is also directly observable that some really terrible people are able to have sex in spite of being evil rotten pieces of shit. >which means the corollary is being a good person who does deserve it, aka they earned it by…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 06:22 PM
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It is not pragmatic to objectify myself for the gratification of others. I don't know what to tell you-- it makes no logical sense for people to regard themselves as existing merely to serve the pleasure of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 06:14 PM
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And yet it is profoundly beyond the ability of quite a number of men on this subreddit who insist that a woman should be a trophy given to them for moral behavior. And it’s clearly not part of OP’s framework. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:54 PM
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It matters because an honest sociological analysis requires looking at the full picture under a lens of realism I disagree with you that it is logical or realism to oppose any and all critiques of of male violence, or that it is logical to worship men merely because they could beat us to death. There is no logic in performing an action or saying empty untrue words that have no effect on the world just because you want women to praise men for violence. According to your argument, women do not mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:52 PM
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And if you don’t provide her any incentive (like pleasure), she has no reason to fuck you. If sex for a dude is nothing but a one-sided reward that women are supposed to hand out to men to incentivize them to clean their room and shit… well, that sounds like a guaranteed path to a dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:40 PM
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You dont like the idea of being a throphy, but nature already made it so winners evoke attraction So your view is that women do not, and cannot win. That sex is a loss for women. Ok. There’s a reason a lot of women are picky about who they have sex with— most women actually don’t want to fuck a dude who thinks it’s her job to provide pleasure and it’s just “natural” that she doesn’t deserve pleasure in return. You can squeal about natural all you want, but the natural reality is that women have …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:38 PM
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Because a reward is one-sided. When you get a trophy for doing well in a race, you don’t also give the trophy-givers their own trophy. If the sex for him is the reward for good behavior, it’s a prize for him given to him in exchange for something else he already did. Him believing the sex is a reward for him for his good behavior means he believes sex is for him. It’s not a reward for her— she’s the one giving out the prize. Words have meanings.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 02:26 PM
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“Do you [do this bad thing that a lot of other women on here do]? I just wanna check to see if you’re a hypocrite too”… is asking in bad faith. He admits to asking for that reason. Theres no hypocrisy here. I’m accusing him of the thing he said he did.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 02:23 PM
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I really also strongly dislike the analogy comparing a romantic relationship with an imbalanced employer-employee relationship. Ew. Like, do you see your wife/girlfriend as your boss and yourself as an employee? But, if you still really want to go with that analogy… well, if you are rewarded for your hard work with a raise, it does actually mean you’re not gonna pay back your boss with equal money. In the case of sex in a relationship, one-sided reward sex is one-sided. The “trophy” isn’t gettin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 01:54 PM
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I asked because I did not assume anything in the first place, I notice some women here say they want equality but expect men to pay for dates which is a double standard This is actually asking in bad faith— you asked the question because you thought it was highly likely I held this double standard, and you were hoping you could catch me and call me out on it. it is important when someone throws words around to make sure it means the same thing or at least understand what the word means This is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 01:34 PM
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Who said anything about him treating you like shit? You are the one insisting a relationship should be this one-sided performance, where the man performs specific tasks or spends a specific amount of money on her, and then she owes him a sexual debt in return. It’s prostitution you’re describing, not a caring loving relationship between two people who genuinely enjoy each other’s company. Also it is so gross that you use the nasty red pill language “tinglies” to mock the very idea of a woman enj…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 01:26 PM
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Yes. Although it’s kind of a moot point since I’m married and we both just kind of dump our paycheck in a joint account. But why are you asking me an accusatory question like I’m on fucking trial here? I’m arguing against OP’s position in a debate— This is not about me. So why did you automatically assume things you clearly think are negative about me? What is your purpose in asking me this question? Were you trying to “gotcha” me with some bad faith nonsense?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 01:16 PM
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Because women are the selectors. and choose which men gets acess to sex and children. So men have no agency and are incapable of refusing sex with a woman. No matter how evil she is, you’re free of guilt if you decide to fuck her or pursue her, because men are innocent little lambs who cannot do anything for themselves and they’re never responsible for their own choices. What a total steaming load of self-serving hypocrisy. bad men are responsible for being bad men, but they should have been inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 01:14 PM
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Ok, and the fact that you could die in childbirth makes it even stupider for women to treat sex like it’s a “reward” or to date men who treat it as frivolously as a stupid little gold star, lol. You’re stating yourself that sex is serious important business that can result in a child. Sex is not a “good boy” pat on the head a man gets for doing the right tricks, it’s a huge potential lifelong investment in children. And it’s something women always took seriously. Even today, sex can be more than…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 01:00 PM
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Don't act like one you won't be treated like one. Lol, dude, I don’t act like a “trophy”, and I wasn’t fishing for your advice.This is a debate post, and I’m debating the OP. Get it together, son. Besides, it’s rude of you to offer unwanted, unneeded advice… especially when the advice is attempting to be an insult. But seriously, I can’t control men or brainwash them into thinking right, anyways. Men are their own people and have their own thoughts, and no amount of me acting however you say I’m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 12:54 PM
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Ugh, I hate the view of sex as a reward for men. That kind of thinking is a great excuse for men to be shit at sex. It’s a reward for them, and she’s just providing it… in that logic, her enjoyment doesn’t matter. She’s just supposed to offer sex as a good-boy prize regardless of her own wants and needs. Hard pass. I hate the idea of being a fucking trophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 12:26 PM
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Why isn’t the same true for men? Why doesn’t the responsibility for leaving bad women unselected fall on men? Where is the accountability when it comes to bad women? I know you think lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of women are bad, so why don’t you blame men for choosing them? Edit: to put it in a different way… these women you call immoral for dating the wrong men. You are saying they are very bad immoral women themselves. So why do you want those women to date at all? By your own arg…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 12:15 PM
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I understand. Even when you have exactly zero evidence or reason to think that, it’s probably best for to assume women are the root of all evil, hmm?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 11:52 AM
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It obviously matters a little to you since you posted. And if your question is structural, then take mine to be too: why would it matter, structurally, to society? If women can so easily be relegated to the lowly role of “currency” or “property”, then what is the relevance of worrying about whether they are appreciative of men’s violence or not? Like, if every woman on earth obediently thought exactly the way you want them to think (where you claim that appreciation and admiration are the only p…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 11:50 AM
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It seems to boggle your mind that a dude might lie about his experiences to brag about being the world’s greatest stud, lol. Like, he’s decided in his mind that any woman who doesn’t love exactly what he wants to do them is automatically lying. Seems fairly self-serving to believe that… but I guess you’re easily convinced by some dude bragging online about how the women he fucked said they didn’t like it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:30 PM
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And according to OP, women have nothing to do with whether women are treated better or worse—according to his argument, women are not physically strong enough to enforce good treatment from men. Do you think women in Afghanistan somehow caused the men there to treat them so fucking horribly by being misandrists? Do you think western women are, as you so clearly and disrespectfully describe it, “allowed to be mouthy” because those same women are respectful and kind and have earned the respect of …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:33 PM
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Just no one takes it seriously, people look at women like 5 year old harmless kids when they’re not. OP does not take women seriously. His whole argument is that women are too weak and ineffectual to do anything, and that, in his words, “…Without this male-supported safety net, society would instantly collapse into historical barbarism where women might as well be treated as currency or property.” Since when do the thoughts and words of your property have any effect on anything? If you have a pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:24 PM
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Nowhere have I argued that women don't matter or that civilization owes nothing to them It is the core of your thesis that it is illogical for women to criticize male behavior, because it is men who are more capable of violence and built everything. You say yourself: The very luxury to treat male power as a monolith of pathology—or to comfortably contemplate hypothetical debates like "Man vs. Bear"—exists only because this baseline male infrastructure is constantly keeping the wolves at bay. Wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 01:13 PM
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The argument is purely structural, not psychological: it is a critique of a mainstream sociological framework that feels entirely comfortable pathologizing the male demographic as a whole And my point is that, according to your own arguument… none of that matters one bit. You say that male physical strength is the driving force in the world and that men have done everything good and that men have all the real power to protect or destroy… In other words, people saying mean words does not change t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 12:38 PM
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Misogyny and misandry are both morally wrong… but your very debate post points out extremely clearly that they have wildly different consequences. Your very point is that, when women express hatred of men, it’s nothing but ineffectual words. A fart in the wind. According to your argument, women are incapable of doing anything. In contrast, men can (and have!) caused extreme harm to women many many times in history and around the globe. Men didn’t need any misandry to inspire them to fuel the mas…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 11:45 AM
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“Ruthlessly and despicable”… to describe any woman who doesn’t just flop on the ground and strip off her pants for literally every man on earth. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:51 PM
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And God AND Satan are BOTH male, Because women didn’t matter at all. They were narratively beneath anyone’s regard.. They were just useless stupid servants of the deceiver. Dumb temptresses that lead men astray, but have no worth in their own right. In addition, Satan isn’t part of the Bible. And while God is framed as “the Father”, he is also not exactly considered Male, either. “He” is referred to with male pronouns, but is considered to be a spiritual being that is beyond the pathetic limitat…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 12:42 AM
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I mean… that’s how numbers work. Something with 2 million views does indeed have more views than something with 0 views. Not sure why you’re confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 09:06 PM
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No, it's more "women who believe in blaming genders for shit," but we can throw men who believe in blaming other men for shit too. I am not a member of either of these groups. I oppose both of those groups. Lot's daughters were not blamed for incestiously fee-raping him They actually were blamed by religious figures later? Women were deemed wicked and uniquely weak and easily tempted to do evil for millenia, actually. And don’t forget, lot’s wife was turned to a pillar of salt… for merely turnin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 07:48 PM
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The most popular video of all time (so far) on YouTube Baby Shark has 16 BILLION views. That’s double the human population of earth. So… no, a few million really is not all that much. About thousand times less popular than “do dooo do doo do doo”.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 07:37 PM
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feminism by almost two centuries. … and treating women like inferiors in religion and culture started centuries before that, with men writing lots of negative things about women and women’s place in the world. We just don’t have a lot of comparable writings from women to see how they felt about men in return. I’m sure there must have been at least a few women who didn’t particularly like being viewed as the trash gender that ruined everything in the original mythologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 06:16 PM
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Because your group is starting it, What’s is “my group” exactly? Is this another “you people”? I am a woman. Clearly you blame me for the actions of others because I am the same gender as them. You are thinking of women as nothing more than ‘dumb bitch collective’. according to your own admission via the paragraph above this one I do not see where I accepted this blame you’re trying to dump on me? Becasue I don’t think women “started it”. The earliest example I personally know about involves men…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 06:11 PM
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I am not demonizing all women. You are saying you should. That is promoting demonization of women. That is obviously not the outcome I want tho Sure sounds like it is when you also say: “Are men not justified in also wanting to form a "team man" who sees women as the enemy?” You excuse one, you excuse the other. You act as if misogyny never existed before the invention of TikTok, lol. Those women you hate are retaliating to misogyny and think exactly like you do! And you want to retaliate in kin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:50 AM
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??? I agree people can be overpowered at close range. Women are not being prevented from owning guns or shooting them because men are wrestling them from women’s hands, dudes. Lmao indeed. 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:24 PM
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Bro most people spend a significant amount of time on social media and at this point online misandry is so common its unavoidable. So? Online misogyny is also so common it’s unavoidable. You are promoting it yourself right here. Why do you celebrate the same toxic behavior you condemn? “Common online” does not mean all, or even a majority of women. It means your algorithm feeds you the hate shit you click and consume endlessly. On top of that you got Sabrina Carpenter making songs like man child…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:50 PM
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It prevents you from having to go to war. Women were traditionally part of the war train in European military campaigns, cooking and cleaning and providing other support (including the sexual support red pill men say is so critical for male well-being). And they got murdered and raped in war whether they helped or not. They just weren’t suited up and armed. You get to leave a sinking ship. Historically, that was actually exceptionally rare. The titanic is a very rare exception. Every man for him…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:02 PM
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So you watched a few dumb TikTok’s while doom scrolling and decided that maybe you should hate all women for the words of some. Ok. If if you really think it’s so bad to hate a group of people as a collective based on the actions of a few, then why do you perpetuate that exact behavior? Why do you blame all women for the actions of a few? You doing exactly the thing you’re so mad about is at the very core of your argument— you fail at every turn to recognize women as individual humans. You were …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:55 PM
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If my wife’s sense of identity and connection is stripped away by her taking my surname, then how secure was she in that identity or with that connection in the first place? Perhaps she had been taught her whole life that her name doesn’t matter. Just like you didn’t value her name or identity or family connections, maybe her family did not either. Looking into genealogy in my own patrilineal culture, that appears to be how women were viewed in general. It was apparently very important for our a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:16 PM
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I don’t particularly like people putting words in my mouth with shitty little gotcha questions that ignore the actual discussion to try to make a snotty point. I oppose the draft for men and women both. If it’s TRULY an existential threat, I agree the draft should be gender neutral… but I also know that politicians (who will never risk their own lives) are full of shit and will always find some way to pretend it’s an existential threat so they can throw away millions of men’s lives for their own…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:53 PM
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I was just saying that you wouldn't have been a feminist woman, if you were born in a village deep in afghan. Did you know that there actually, in fact, are feminist women in Afghanistan? Even those born deep on rural villages? You should even know this: a recent Nobel peace prize winner was a girl born under the Taliban who was shot in the head for trying to promote girls reading. She too was a product of her environment. Why do you pretend that feminism isn’t normal? if you were born in a vill…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:33 PM
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You have obviously never shot a gun if you think women are incapable of it. I have. I am telling you the strength required to operate a gun is fucking trivial. And no, the men committing the overwhelming majority of gun murders and other gun crimes are not carrying 100 pounds of anno and gear, lol. The most popular hand gun in the US is the Glock 19. It weighs, fully loaded, 1.88 pounds, or 0.88kg since you’re not American. It is trivially easy for women to shoot a gun. They just do not choose t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:05 PM
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Yeah I mean I'm going be doing 100% of the childcare while totally taking a break from the workforce for 8-10 years until the youngest is in kindergarten So you won’t be working during that time and you would be doing a lot less work than OP says women should do. And honestly, why are you griping at me? My argument is that you should do what you want with your life. That you, as a man, should cook if you want to! OP is the one whining that ONLY women should cook and that you should not cook beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:03 PM
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Men and women are absolutely equally physically capable of pulling a trigger. I have fired a gun myself— it is physically easy for a woman. 80 year old women can shoot a gun. In fact, in 1992, before they separated women’s and men’s shooting events in the Olympics, a woman won the gold medal in mixed (that’s gender mixed) Olympic skeet shooting. If a woman can win at the Olympics facing off against men, then women are equally capable. The reason men commit wildly more gun violence isn’t because …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:39 PM
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men “working twice as hard as your grandpa to get a woman half as good as your grandma I also don’t buy that a red pill man thinks his real grandma actually is any “good”, lol. She’s still nothing more than just a lowly worthless female to red pillers. They love to jabber about the abstract concept of a “good woman”, but they never ever actually identify any real ones as being worthy of respect. If they met their grandma Xty-umpt years ago when she was youn, they’d have nothing but sneering scor…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:08 PM
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Especially when we all share the commonality of a surname. For instance we are all known as The Rippers. Well why should women provide men with this “communal identity” by sacrificing her own name and family communal identity? Why does the man get to keep his familial connection, but he doesn’t have to form any communal connection to her family? Changing the woman’s name at marriage is far from culturally universal. As are all my brothers. Uncles. Cousins. Yeah, but just them, becasue the female…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:48 AM
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Women are equally capable of pulling the trigger of a gun, yet still do this far less. Facts don’t support your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:19 AM
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Ok, if you don’t want a girlfriend who goes clubbing and dresses hot and looks hot and is sexually appealing to men, then you should only pursue women who are boring, ugly and dress dumpy. But you will never ever choose boring Becky over a hotter women if you have the opportunity. You’d rather date a hot socialite then try to shame her into dressing like a Mennonite and uglying herself up… and then your eye will inevitably wander to the next hot woman you prefer over your now dowdy wife. How dep…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:01 AM
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What are you talking about? I'm not talking about bossing him around or him bossing me aeround. What? His original post was telling all women everywhere that they need to cook and that women cannot cook. My original response was to tell him that actually, he doesn’t get to tell everyone what to do. And you were like “yeah he can!!!!”. Like ok, yeah, you can obey him if you want, but his screeching and screaming into the void of the internet isn’t gonna make women be the unappreciated kitchen ser…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:48 AM
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Imagine you were born in Afghanistan, would you have been on reddit. Debating with a man? prolly not. Ah yes, the old “if you were in this dumb culture, I’d beat you to death for daring to speak out of turn, you dumb bitch” response. In Afghanistan, “it’s muh culture” is the excuse shit tier worthless men use when they execute their mothers and sisters for speaking out of turn. What a surprise you’d align yourself with those men in a conversation where you don’t like a woman talking to you and f…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:15 PM
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He abso-fuckin-loutley does if he earns more I mean, you can follow him obediently if you want, but he’s just some rando online. He has no ability to boss any of the rest of us around, lol. But sure, if you wanna submit to his authority, you can I guess 🤷‍♀️ just like my future wife gets to "tell me how to live my life" and tells me to get a fucking pot hot if she makes more and I am the stay at home dad like I hope to be. I think you should pick better than some disrespectful unappreciative bit…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:05 PM
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And lol, heaven forbid he ever like… talk to his mom. 😂 I just cannot imagine coming up with this many excuses to avoid taking care of myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:03 PM
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and men don't generally cook that much in our culture here. Yes, I agree some men fall back on “culture” and tradition so they can just dump 98% of the work on their wives while they lay around and spend their free time on their hobbies and having fun. Its just I want to leave the more complex house tasks for a woman to do. if you are both working full time, then dumping all the complex tasks on the other person is lazy and selfish. “But but muh culture” and “but I’m too stoopid to ever learn ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 02:45 PM
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This dude’s argument is just “weaponized incompetence: the reddit post”.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 02:19 PM
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I learned from my dad. Men can learn on their own, or even ask their mom/dad! You have a mouth and can ask questions. And oh, boo hoo, your hobbies don’t overlap with basic life skills? You just wanna dump all the work you don’t like on someone else while you can go do your fun hobbies. You sound like the kind of dude who thinks women’s hobbies are washing dishes and cleaning toilets 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 02:13 PM
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You don’t get to tell people how to live their lives, Mr. bossy britches. In my family, most of the men have cooked. I personally also like to cook, but it’s my choice, not yours. 🤷‍♀️ Specialize in what you want to specialize in and marry someone compatible. Why would you want to force a woman who hates cooking and is totally uninspired by it to cook? Thats how you get those awful 1950s jello mold horror dinners. Plus. A lot of women like a guy who can cook. It’s a great date night activity to …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 02:10 PM
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Yeah, I oppose mandatory testing in large part because it would enable a global DNA database and would violate privacy rights of innocent citizens. I just do not have that level of trust in the government… or future versions of it. I do, however, 100% support opt-in testing for men who have reason to believe they may be the father of a child. That should be cheap, legal, and easy to get (which is currently the case in the US).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 12:23 PM
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that all women should respect their own boundaries before they even get to sex so they can leave before they get to the point that they need to defend themselves. They should… but for one thing, that’s sometimes not actually enough. But more broadly, you’re expecting people to read minds and have perfect social evaluation of others and understand subtle pre-indications as though rape and abuse are really the victim’s fault. In your argument, if only people were just vigilant enough about subtle …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 12:09 PM
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I’m speaking more generally than just about anal. Anal is definitely not for me (I will be happy to never try it!) but like… I honestly don’t care if other people wanna do it and there’s mutual consent. Like, the vagina has multiple exit functions too. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 02:25 PM
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This is why I'm blackpill-adjacent; I consider myself Picard-pilled (You can do everything right and still lose) You know, I don’t consider that black-pill adjacent at all. It’s mature realism to understand that life really truly isn’t fair and that bad things happen to good people, and that you cannot protect yourself by just following all the rules or doing everything “right”. Like… when babies die of cancer or intestinal parasites or aid, what exactly did they do wrong? Believing in a just wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 01:16 PM
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Like if a guy doesn’t respect your boundaries before sex, it should be a clear indicator that he won’t respect them during it or after it. Agree. But in this conversation, we are talking about it from the point of view of the person pushing the boundaries, not the person with the boundaries. Yes the person with boundaries should run the fuck away or use violence (even deadly violence!) to defend themselves if they need to… but sometimes that’s not something they’re able to do. And they are not s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 11:59 AM
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Well, that does suck, sorry. Her actions prevented you from making an informed choice about your life, and her behavior sounds deceptive and cruel. The announcing part makes it sound planned… which is just super gross and anti-caring. I don’t think it’s related to the issue being discussed on this post (dudes being ok with knowingly choosing to date a sexually boring woman as long as she was always consistently boring, and only being unhappy about her lack of sexual performance if she used to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 09:19 PM
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Cool, thanks. Those all make sense! And yes, that makes sense as a clear example of “this thing I do with my wife is special and not like I treated my exes”.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:34 PM
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That’s a really generic and deflecting answer, honestly You asked a specific and very personal question to women to explain how we treat our husbands as special… can you answer the same question in the same spirit you originally asked it please? (Plus, sorry, but considering an awful lot of men would also try anything with basically any other random one night stand, too… that isn’t treating her as special.)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:07 PM
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Well, he’s the only sexual partner I’ve ever had… so it’s fairly braindead what he gets that nobody else gets. I do like to tease him that he’s way way hotter than anyone else I’ve ever been with. More clinically, I also have kids with him and no one else, so I think that’s pretty special One common thing you see men get salty about is when his wife doesn't want to try certain sexual acts with him, but she used to do them with all her exes. I think a lot more guys get salty about imagining this …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:37 PM
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Enforcement means leaving whenever a communicated boundary has been crossed. Or even at a boundary that’s past an absolute limit. Ok, but like, for butt stuff, her waiting until after she’s been raped seems a little late. It is not a “suggestion” when she says “I don’t want anal”, it is a clear unambiguous statement that crossing that boundary is actually rape. It’s not super complicated. Enforcing that boundary by leaving him doesn’t undo the wrong of the boundary being crossed. (Just for the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:45 PM
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Its not settling. It is settling. What you want is a hot woman who does wild sex things with you… but instead you settle for this boring woman who doesn’t do the kind of sex you want and need to feel desired. How is it settling for her, when it is SHE who does not want to fully commit to being in sexual zone of a man and fulfilling all his little kinks and fetishes? She has a boundary that she cannot and does not want to cross. It is part of her personality and behavior— in this hypothetical, it…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:31 PM
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I'm saying that the more tolerant a male is towards a woman's difference from her past and present the less said woman will be attracted towards him I have noticed exactly the opposite: The less tolerant a man is, the more he comes across as a boring stick in the mud, and the less attractive he will be. For example, men who are hyper-fixated on virgins are definitely not considered more attractive to most women than men who are flexible and understanding of the real world and life changes. And i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 11:40 AM
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No, because men have many kinks and ways of thinking about sex that women do not find appealing. So you are willing to settle for a woman you don’t like. Why should a woman want to be with a man who is obviously settling for her hard? I have been informed by many men here that being settled for is a unique and evil form of torture to men… yet here you are insisting that men constantly settle for women they don’t really like. and your not going to be able to have sex with her exactly as you would…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 11:30 AM
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I’m just going to say the quiet part out loud.. If you don’t enforce a boundary, it’s not a boundary, it’s just a suggestion. What counts as “enforcement” to you? Basically anything goes no matter what they say, unless they are physically capable of enforcing the boundary? Sounds awfully self-serving for the physically stronger person in a relationship. Like I’ll say the very obvious part out loud: “I’ll test sticking it in and unless she fights me off, her ‘no’ doesn’t matter” is rape. If this …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 11:27 AM
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I think the corollary that these guys are not going to like is that, if they ever ever once in their life, had a girlfriend without doing anal with her, that means they desired her the most of all, and that any time they want anal with a woman, it means they don’t really desire her. If they gave a prior girlfriend “their best” (a relationship without anal), then them asking for anal isn’t “their best”. Same logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:01 AM
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This response is logical and makes perfect sense. I don’t get why a lot of guys here are complicating it so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 12:55 AM
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So… a woman can tell how much a man likes her by how much he pushes her for anal and whatever else? If he is really and truly and deeply attracted to him, he will be happy to tolerate her having any boundaries she wants… but if he’s not that attracted to her, then he won’t tolerate her refusing sex acts she doesn’t want. Is that what you mean? Or in other words, if he’s asking for all this weird exotic stuff she doesn’t want to do, then would you say that means he’s not attracted to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 12:52 AM
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I'm less willing to stay with a person if they had an active dislike of what I'd like to do. I don't know why, I don’t know why you think yours is the weird response here. If you like something and it’s enjoyable to you, wouldn’t it be just settling to be with someone who won’t do that with you? Sure that’d be fairly reasonable with something extremely minor that you do enjoy but could take or leave… but if it’s something like a whole category of sex that you enjoy, like anal or oral or whatever…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 12:47 AM
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But I feel like I am a bit biased in that I don’t like butt stuff. So you don’t like butt stuff, but… But also I’d be curious how much you’d be willing to compromise, like can I just put the tip in tho? Huh???? Like, you don’t want to, but you just wanna cross a woman’s boundaries to see if you can push her over and pressure her into stuff she says she doesn’t like… for no reason except to pat yourself on the back for hurting her. Even if you get no pleasure out of it, it is important to you to …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 12:37 AM
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because the guys you’re attracted to aren’t attracted to you any more So your question is really just projection: you cannot imagine being attracted to a woman over 30, so you project that disgust on women and assume they just become sterile, asexual zombies when they turn 30. It’s not that women are picking men they don’t like… it’s that you just don’t want a long term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:07 AM
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Scenario 1 is basically saying "this isn't something I like." Scenario 2 might be saying "this isn't something I want with you." Those aren't the same message and pretending they are is kind of dishonest. It is not dishonest. It is pointing out that you are willing to settle hard for a woman who does not meet your standards of what you think “enthusiasm” looks like, simply because well, at least she didn’t do what I want with someone else first. And when she finds out just how important it is fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:01 PM
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I'm not sure how the first 4 paragraphs have anything to do with the point OP and I were debating, The point is: why all this concern about “some other guy got what I wanted… so now I’m mad I don’t get what I want”? If you aren’t getting what you want in a relationship, why does it matter one bit about this other past boyfriend? Don’t settle for her even if she’s a virgin, dude! Don’t settle for someone who doesn’t please you even if she’s didn’t do it for someone else in the past. There are 2 o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:20 PM
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Just to be clear: you will eagerly vote for millions of people to drown (islands and coasts flooded by rising oceans), starve (famine driven by drought and desertification), or die of heat stroke (pure extreme heat events)… due to results of decisions they had no part in. Do you also describe yourself as a “nice guy”?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:12 PM
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If… you never ever took a woman to Maldives before and won’t ever do it now either, and my expectations in a relationship is that I want to go on exotic vacations with my boyfriend… why on earth would I settle for you? If I want to date a man who brings me flowers once in a while, and you’re a guy who never ever bought a girl flowers and you’ll never ever buy any for me either… why would I settle for you? If I want to date a man who would never pressure me to do anal, and you’re a guy who used t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:34 PM
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I wouldn't marry a woman who was more enthusiastic to be with someone else than with me, point blank. But… you would marry a woman who was not enthusiastic with you even though she was also never enthusiastic with any other man first??? No, obviously not. Stop settling for boring women who don’t meet your standards just because “hey, at least some other guy didn’t get more out of her first”. Like seriously, have some self respect. If a woman doing XYZ is important to you, DO NOT SETTLE for a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:26 PM
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why accept low enthusiasm vanilla sex for "Commitment" or marriage? Realistically, they won’t accept it. They’ll resent her for denying him whatever it is he is fixated on. They’ll continue to be jealous of other men getting “better”, and will be eternally pissy with her about the fact they don’t get what they think they deserve for “fairness” sake. And they’ll likely pressure her to give him whatever it is he’s obsessed with that he thinks Chad gets and he doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:08 PM
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Buncha dudes here also think a woman’s “best” is her teenage years. Even if she didn’t “give her best” to another man, they’re still gonna be super disappointed and angry if the woman they get isn’t the hot 19 year old virgin they want. It’s really not worth worrying about the angry feelings of injustice of dudes who are gonna find something to hate a woman for, no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:58 PM
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Yeah, I realy very honestly cannot understand how a guy could make it to adulthood without observing anything for himself with his own two eyes. How did this guy go through years of social interactions and seeing all the pretty girls he wanted date… and not ever once notice that those women were dating guys who looked cute? What other basic human rules is this guy ignorant of— is he unaware that it’s socially inappropriate to walk around the town naked or randomly grunt at people? I myself am no…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:07 PM
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I don’t think it’s a logical thought out process either. It’s just automatic and easy to blame others instead of critically self-examining your beliefs. It’s very ordinary and human to avoid considering your whole belief system might be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 06:56 PM
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I agree, but I’d say it’s more externalized misandry: they are taking their internal self-loathing and hatred of their own sexuality, and externalizing it by turning their self-hate towards women. They believe their own sexuality is corruptive and gross (internalized)… so they then turn that around and call women dirty and corrupted and gross (externalized) to feel better and blame women for their yucky immoral (according to them) feelings. That way he can feel It’s not his own fault for having …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 01:55 PM
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The use of this language genuinely seems quite misogynist to me I also want to point out how deeply misandrist the language also is. These men describe even their own sexuality as disgusting, toxic, and destructive. They view their very touch as though it’s a form of pollution, something that corrupts. In other words: as much as they are being totally misogynistic, they are also deeply and profoundly self-loathing. They cannot love with sex, because they believe sex with a man is deeply harmful—…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 01:41 PM
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I just think You already said very plainly that you think American women are mannish, and then doubled down on it, saying they fail to be appealing at all. You could have said you have a preference… but instead you saw an opportunity to diss and sneer at millions and millions of women you don’t know at all and took it. Denying you said what you said and trying to twist the meaning to pretend you said something else entirely is rather empty, actually. Like I said before: it’s never just about pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 02:57 AM
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"Choose better" means don't go for obvious jackasses, badboys, drug-dealers, street thugs, criminals, guys who have a reputation for petty violence etc just because "he's 6'5" teehee". The fact that you (and every other guy screaming “choose better” at women) are so deeply attracted to the women saying drug dealers, street thugs, and criminals suggests you lot need to “choose better”. Like, I don’t fuss and fret and whine that rotten trash men aren’t choosing me: I want them to stay the fuck awa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 12:38 AM
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If western women do not want to be insulted Nobody wants to be insulted. Throwing insults at total strangers is not a “preference”, it is mean and cruel. they should try to appeal to western men more You have no idea whether I am feminine or mannish, ugly or pretty, young or old, or any other woman. And it is mere bigotry (and likely just racist) to claim all western women are “unappealing”. Yet you had no problem declaring that, as a western woman, I am automatically not really a woman at all, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 01:22 PM
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I don't see the problem with having preferences. “These women act like men” is not a “preference”, it is an insult. You know that calling a woman the wrong gender is insulting. And you did it anyways. Like i said, for passport bros, it is always an opportunity to throw insults. It is never ever just a preference. If someone told you you “act like a woman”, that isn’t a preference, it is a comment on how they view you negatively. You are playing coy instead of being accountable for your words. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 04:00 PM
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A lot of western women basically act like men now Passport bros always gotta find some way to insult the women around him. They never ever just have a cultural preference. No matter how polite they act, at its core, every passpor bro really does just want to find some way insult women they’re not attracted to and have nothing to do with. Always.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 05:51 PM
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it's an allegory that man must remain grounded to see through wordly deceit It has also long been used, by Christians, an allegory to declare women as uniquely untrustworthy and justify treating them as inferior to men. Even though in the story both made the exact same error.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:06 PM
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Ah yes, “but but she told me to” is more deflections of accountability. And the woman was deceived by the great deceiver… and when she was tricked she also did not have the knowledge of good and evil. She had no reason to distrust this random creature among God’s creations because she did not know about evil. The forbidden fruit story is just something bunch of ancient dudes made up to justify to themselves why they feel like they should be in charge, treat women like servants, and disrespect th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 12:56 PM
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Adam ate the fruit too, same as Eve. The story of Adam and Eve is the ur example of men trying to blame women for… well in this case, literally everything bad that has ever happened, lol. Maybe try accountability for your own actions instead of blaming all women everywhere for everything you hate… all because of a lady in a story set a bajillion years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:43 AM
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What we do see is a growing ideological divide, very popular charts we've seen by now that show in the west, Well, then, here is a very obvious problem with your conclusion that female radicalization is what is driving down birth rates and marriage rates: it ain’t just happening in the west. Here is a sampling of countries with birth rates below replacement: Singapore, China, South Korea, Chile, Thailand, Puerto Rico, United Arab Emirates, Belarus, Spain, Bahamas, Costa Rica, Uruguay, Finland, B…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:17 AM
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Still the obvious majority Still your own choice when you decide to date someone. For everyone. Nobody is forcing you to pick women you don’t like. I’d just autistically interpret it as interest So what? Sex is not the only way to show interest, and it’s honestly pretty telling you think it is. But you just explained how women are all interchangeable to you and that according to you, men do not care who they date as long as she puts out. The “interest” you offer is the same interest you offer li…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:46 AM
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60 - 80% of people at colleges participate in a hookup, let alone sleep with a guy they get into a relationship with quickly So not 100% like you claimed. Hmmm. What a surprise. I’m being serious: Were you participating in online dating? There are at least 3 times as many me as women on dating apps… according to the data the apps are willing to publish. You know dating apps are extremely skewed. If so, did no one else want to sleep with him in that timeframe? If he was a slut, I wouldn’t have da…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:57 AM
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Go to a college, find a guy who’s more attractive than a female premed or engineer, and have him hang out with her for a few hours. She’ll probably sleep with him. I didn’t sleep around in college in spite of being in STEM and surrounded by decent men. You’re just cynical. Your version of “those grapes are probably sour” is apparently “any woman who doesn’t fuck me instantly is a stuck up bitch slut”, lol. I don’t believe I’m exaggerating when I say that there are nearly no college educated wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:06 AM
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And men are responsible for choosing the women they choose. Yet men in this sub absolutely never hold themselves accountable for obsessively wishing for those women they also totally despise. I don’t get it. There are a lot of rotten trash men who hate women and whine and complain about how hot women don’t instantly spread their legs for them within 5 minutes of meeting them… And I am deeply grateful in my life that whiny angry dudes like them have no interest in a boring, sexually reserved, goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 11:59 PM
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Men here complain all the time about such women— they say they are “worn out by Chad” and that any married woman is a former slut just settling for a “beta” and making his life miserable. Men in this sub fucking despise women in happy relationships, dude. Like I am one of them myself, yet I get nothing but absolute fucking bile when I suggest that men should choose better themselves. They’re also complaining about the ones making them wait for sex who didn’t make that hot man at the club in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 11:55 PM
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Men are not grizzly bears, you total and utter misandrist. Men are responsible for their own actions as human beings with agency. A woman cannot force a man to become a bear, lol and it’s absolutely 🤡 you think women can do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 11:50 PM
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The general point is that most women only choose guys based on superficial first impressions No, many women (like men) choose men based on a variety of deeper criteria for relationships. You simply do not notice them because you are focused solely on gaining maximum speedy casual sexual access to as many women as possible (as you specify in another comment). Your problem is selection bias— you are choosing women who don’t care and ignoring the women who do care because they don’t give you the in…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 07:54 PM
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Then by corollary, you must also argue that women also 100% responsible for any time they pick a good guy. If he’s a good guy? Then it’s 100% due to her, and he deserves none of the credit for his good behavior. Right? Or… is your argument simply saying that women are responsible for everything bad, while men are responsible for everything good? If women are so responsible for male behavior… then maybe you should be more grateful to women for when men behave well!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 06:00 PM
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Also common blue pill advice that most kids are taught in kindergarten: Life isn’t fair. You were supposed to learn that long before you started dating. Blue pill dating advice never promised every man that if he followed the rules, he’d be guaranteed a woman. Like… there are 2 year old innocent children dying of cancer: how can you possibly expect identical dating outcomes for all men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:09 PM
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You know, it would be interesting if you actually talked to all the guys in this thread saying women are most attracted to psychopathy specifically about your own experiences. Instead of just posting to say “there’s no logical contradiction because both arguments are right— women are always evil no matter what”.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:24 AM
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and it's a uniquely judgemental and intense mechanism at that compared to men's. It's brutal. Your own judgement is also a uniquely and intense mechanism compared to women’s: if you think she’s attractive, then she owes it to “civilization” to just get fucked by whoever wants her regardless of her desire or even willingness. In your view, men’s desire should be placated and women’s desires are “silly” and should be overridden. For your pleasures I do not buy that you don’t get how fucking brutal…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 04:59 PM
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Free love in civilization, every civilization, become a thing only after zenith, when civilization its starting to collapse and again is becoming historyless. Considering how rampant prostitution (and having a mistress) has been throughout history, as well as the prevalence of rape in war… … well, if you’re defining civilization based on sexual self-control, then there’s never been a civilization ever. There have been faaaaar too many male sluts for you to claim civilization depends on sexual se…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 11:36 AM
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That’s why they also love to push the “all women are like that” idea— that belief allows them to abandon accountability for their rotten choices. They didn’t choose wrong… all women are exactly like the stuck up, selfish bitch they tailored their life to
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 11:13 AM
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Are you new to this sub? It’s a frequent sentiment expressed by men here. Just stick around and read for a while. Pops up fairly randomly in threads. And interesting you think it’s outlier behavior for men to argue that lots of unmarried men presents a danger to society… but that women blame men outside of relationships for abusive relationships. Surely you can show examples of why you think women are not concerned at all about domestic violence, or why you think women blame single men for relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:57 PM
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Within the manosphere, it is men who argue that actually, if you don’t give “unselected” men a partner, then those men will become violent and destroy civilization. According to a lot of men, the mere act of selecting a man sexually is a way to pacify him and prevent violence, and a lack of sexual access drives men to be violent and destructive. This is how at least some unselected men describe themselves. So I’m curious how you address their assertion that actually, unselected men are a huge da…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:27 PM
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It’s hilarious how you don’t notice (or care) that a whole lot of those popular, desirable bully-girlfriends are also bullies themselves. Hint: a lot of the women who like bullies like it because they are also bullies. But that doesn’t matter to you, as long as she’s hot, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 12:54 PM
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I disagree. Men and women in their 20s should pursue their own personal goals and desires. They should weigh the risks and rewards of different anpproaches and make the decision on what to do based on their own judgement. They should not follow your script just because you personally think it’s the best. A guy who doesn’t want to be a slut will not benefit from doing things he doesn’t want to do for a prescribed number of years before you allow him to date more seriously. If he wants to date ser…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 01:01 AM
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you may open Mary Wollstonecraft's "Vindication" Women today are better citizens than they were in the 1790s. They are adults actually participating in the acts of citizenship and companionship, instead of being cloistered, silent, uneducated servants and entertainment in the home (as society viewed them). But likewise, dude, this book was written in 1792. It is, yes, a foundational text of early feminism, but kinda hard to claim modern owe you something based on a book written over 200 years ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 06:27 PM
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“your standards are too high” or “lower your standards” is criticism, sure. but it’s still treating her standards as standards It’s treating her standards as illegitimate and morally wrong. Like she’s being ”uppity” and not knowing her place. She is being told she is crazy for having such standards. it’s not immediately turning it into “there’s something psychologically wrong with you for thinking this way.” It is absolutely doing that. It is saying she is crazy and delusional to think she deser…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 01:18 PM
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and the default response is understanding. people will even help her refine those standards. Depends on the audience. If it’s hostile men online any boundary from a woman is immediately met with “your standards are too high” “you need to lower your standards” “you’re not hot enough— what do you bring to the table to demand anything”, or the ever popular “you only say that because you’re a used up who used to fuck Chad and got dumped”. They are extremely not understanding of women having any stan…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 11:57 AM
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I think misandry has increased over the last century or two despite misogyny decreasing I’m curious: how much do you actually know of the real thoughts and feelings of any women from over a hundred years ago? Or even 50 years ago. You are highly aware of your algorithm-curated rage bait you seek out today… but you likely aren’t all that aware of even average women’s thoughts today. What makes you think you know so much about how women felt 30, 50, or 100 years ago? Like, mot men of the distant p…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 01:12 PM
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etc too early. Like… yeah? Being extremely vulnerable and emotional way early in dating is a turn off for men too. If you’re on a second date with a woman and she starts openly weeping about how she’s already way too old and is never going to find someone to love or marry her… most men are gonna side-eye her and ghost. Or maybe instead she breaks down in tears about all her family drama and how she can’t get along with her mom and her father is too distant and she can never get his approval. Or …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 12:49 PM
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I countered that women ending up in unhappy relationships was never the goal. It was never the goal. I did not claim there was an evil conspiracy to torture women— that is how you interpreted what I said. But while deliberately making women unhappy was not the goal, satisfying women was also usually not a goal either. Women were simply a secondary consideration, most of the time. No, not for all of history in every circumstance. But for most of history, men’s desires came first. I'm not sure any…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 12:31 PM
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Are these evil feminist in the room with us? Why are you babbling at me about something off topic? Nothing I said was advocacy of these feminist conspiracy you’re so terrified of. But I guess I’m not really surprised. Like a lot of guys here, you completely ignored the content of what I said to lecture me about how much you think women are bad. You: men and women should work together to be happy… but women are totally fucking stupid sheep without minds of their own and I hate them. Like dude, ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 12:01 AM
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Is your argument here really that none of your male family members give a shit about your well being? Do not throw a little tantrum and make this personal so you can snugly throw insults at me. My family is great. But I also picked my man just fine without having to go ask daddy to make my decisions for me like the helpless little baby you truly want to believe all women are, dude. No I didn’t have a string of losers and deadbeats before this one, either, so don’t make up some “pump and dump” bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 10:40 PM
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Yeah (although I’ll caveat it’s not all men— there are men who didn’t vote for Donny, after all). And, it’s not like assholes never have male friends either. I suspect those same red pillers who always love to preach that men always know which men are rotten assholes (and that women are all always too stupid to make good decisions and should ask another man to pick who she dates for her)…. Those same red pillers likely also still have a few rotten asshole friends they defend and uplift and call …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 10:30 PM
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You have male family members. Only helps if your male family members are very perceptive and actually recognize these assholes quickly, are not assholes themselves, and are willing to burn bridges, and isn’t making a mistake this time around. And it definitely doesn’t work if your male relatives are deadbeat trash themselves. The reality is that a lot of good men even have asshole male friends they never realized were assholes either. Men are not the superior intuitive infallible vetting machine…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 08:53 PM
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The goal obviously was to reward both men and women Oh? The why are you defending someone encouraging men to say “fuck it”, if it’s so obvious that the goal is to reward both men and women? Why are you chewing me out instead of him? My objection is to the idea that men saying “fuck it” should be appeased by requiring women to sexually service them so they can be happy. That proposal might make those rotten men happy, but it will also destroy the happiness of the woke required to service them. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 08:28 PM
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We were talking about women enabling (rewarding) assholes, if I recall correctly. Just as men also enable and reward assholes. For example: you believe it is asshole behavior to enable and reward assholes… and yet you still pay a whole lot more attention and genuine attraction towards those women anyways, while ignoring the existence of women who don’t enable assholes. Not all women date the asshole dudes you hate… yet somehow those asshole women are the only women you care about. I find it very…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 11:42 AM
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otherwise prudish women that never accepted the "Slut Walk" era of feminism before he rode down the escalator. It sounds like you’re describing the Slut Walks as having the message “yay! Women should all have sex with random guys constantly and any woman who doesn’t is a dumb loser prude!”. But that wasn’t the message at all in the 00s. And being a “slut” was not a requirement in feminism in that era either. I certainly didn’t feel like I was considered “the enemy” for lacking the kind of sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 10:57 AM
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I've been married 15 years, and I when we first met, we were both very lonely people. We both are good people that came from broken homes. I don’t remember claiming that it is impossible for people who grew up in broken homes to have a happy relationship. Can you please quote where you think I said that, Mr Black and White Thinking? I think a little clinginess is necessary for it to lead to marriage in the first place, let alone stay together. A little clinginess shouldn't be frowned upon. Why d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 05:33 PM
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Yeah. Dude spends multiple lines shitting on western women, and then tries to claim we’re the bitches for not swallowing his shit with a smile. Like dudebro OP, if you think I’m inherently gross and worthless because of where I’m born, I’d definitely don’t want your disgusting hateful “love” or your sex. Go away and stay away, and I hope you eventually find the hateful mean woman just like yourself that you truly deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:38 PM
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It’s also the case in China, in case anyone here points out that Quebec isn’t that big globally.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:22 PM
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whining on forums about low value men or the losers you wasted your youth on The fuck are you talking about? Where have I ever whined about “low value men”? Quote me. My history is posted here. You’re just making up insulting bullshit stories about me to call me a slut and make yourself feel good, huh. I didn’t fuck anyone in my youth. I was a virgin. I have some had exactly one partner and I am married to him. Women like me not wanting to be forced to provide the sex to appease angry men like y…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:18 PM
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Even without a strict black and white terms, your thought process is totally strange and incredibly anti-happy relationships. It does not make any sense that you believe someone who grew up with a healthy relationship with healthy parents is “probably” or “most likely” going to be miserable and incapable of love. It’s like your actually advocating that the best possible result for a kid is that their parents have a terrible relationship, and literally every study on the subject shows the opposit…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:04 PM
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Do you use your mom’s last name or your dad’s? Where did your mom get her last name? This is such a weird argument. Do you think last names are solely owned by men, and that women are merely low-level stooges who are lucky to be allowed to borrow them? Do you think for women that a last name is more like a label of male ownership? Like it’s kind of a “this thing is owned by” ownership label? A woman’s last name is also her name. It is how other people identify her in the world, and it is how she…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 12:11 PM
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Not at all. The discussion topic in this thread was the idea that women are “destroying society” by having sexual choice. You said “why shouldn’t men say ‘fuck it’” if they are not gifted a woman of their desire as a reward for behaving. Well the obvious counterpoint is “why shouldn’t women say ‘fuck it’” if they are to punished for food behavior by being given out as prizes to keep supposedly, self-styled “good men” from destroying society.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:16 AM
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It is deeply bizarre you think that having loving parents means you cannot appreciate love, or that having rotten parents means you’ll be an amazing partner. What a simplistic view of people you have. And very much a weird revenge fantasy, where you hope people who didn’t struggle with a shit family will inevitably get some kind of comeuppance. Such an unkind and unloving worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:11 AM
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And you want those criminal women, as well as women who make all around horrible choices, very desperately. Why do you not hold yourself accountable for desperately seeking to breed with the very worst women? Children inherit half their genetics from the mother, yet you systematically choose to seek out the very worst women… yet lack the self-awareness and personal accountability to even acknowledge your own poor choices to worship these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:47 PM
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Why do you frame relationships like a girlfriend is a replacement for having parents? Most women absolutely do not want a man who treats her like she’s his mommy. It is sexually repellant.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:44 PM
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Flip the dynamic and you get erosion of the social contract. Well, that’s exactly the dynamic given to women for much of history, though: be a well-behaved good woman, and instead of being rewarded, you will be punished for the rest of your life by being forced to be obedient to, have unwanted sex with over and over with, bear the children of someone you do not want. That is the promise given to women in a society that treats of women as nothing more than a prize for a man’s minimally tolerable …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:55 PM
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Fair enough. Not like I’ve never plopped a comment in the wrong spot, lol. I was super confused what point you were tryin to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:45 PM
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The constant obsession in the manosphere and red pill space with finding a woman to cook and clean etc for you is honestly ridiculous Sure. But the right wing expects women to do this work because they do not respect anyone who does that work, and they feel emasculated when they have to stoop to doing any of that feminine work they view as beneath their superior manly dignity. They’re not going to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:30 PM
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Why are you asking me? What on earth does your comment have to do with mine? Like, seriously, what in my comment inspired you to tell me that you are able to father children? Is it that you want me to know that you think your wife not conceiving is just like being murdered?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:41 AM
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A teeny tiny fraction of women openly move towards polyamory. It is RARE compared to monogamy. Stop fussing over the fact that there is a small minority of women you disapprove of and touch some grass. The vast majority of women do not want to share.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:32 AM
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The quality of women wanting to seriously be in a relationship with a man like this would also be lower. Counterpoint: a whole lotta red pillers do not seem to care about the quality of women they attract. They believe any woman will be a slut for criminal Chad. They believe all women are basically the same, and that the presence of a sufficiently masculine and attractive man will cause a woman to automatically be submissive and feminine the way he wants. “AWALT”. Interchangeable except for thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 10:02 PM
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No. Why are you going out of your way to insult me? Just because you fantasize about being a slut Chad with a bunch of desperate simp harem floozies doesn’t mean I want that low-tier shit life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:35 PM
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Yeah. I listened to a long podcast about it. They (the mongols or some older historians, I don’t remember!) euphemistically would say he “took women as wives”… but I don’t think anyone believes all his “wives” were consensual. Interestingly enough, Ghengis Khan (real name Temujin) actually kinda got started on the war path when his first newly-wed wife, Borte, was kidnapped by raiders. He organized a war party against the raiders 8 months later and found her and brought her back. She gave birth …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:31 PM
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Enforced monogamy was essentially a biological subsidy—a social contract that artificially distributed access to ensure stability. Historically, polygamy was a product of extreme resource imbalances, patriarchal social structures, and violent enforcement. Not through women’s freedom of choice and free love. Most women don’t want to be the 6th wife out of 11– that’s a life of extreme, often backstabbing, competition for her children’s wellbeing. It’s only appealing when the alternative is nearly …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:03 PM
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Yeah, a big part of that “natural state” of men not reproducing was incredibly high amounts of violence. The archeological record indicates that violence was one of the most common causes of death among hunter gatherer men. … and if violence was that rampant… it seems fairly likely at least some (unknowable) fraction of reproduction was not actually a result of female choice. It’s not like war rape was rare in the historical record either. That’s a very clear case where some men reproduced with …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 11:33 AM
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No, the OP is literally saying he doesn’t like women after he touches them. If you actually like someone, having sex with them doesn’t cause you to be filled with “dread” (his word, not mine) at the very idea of seeing to them again.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 04:40 PM
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Those guys often have sex held away from them, while the girl was happily getting bent over in the park by assholes who treat her like trash It’s so great you guys make the assumption that any woman who is more sexually cautious totally must have a rich history of getting fucked over a public park bench by assholes. Like dude, keep shooting yourselves in the foot, but do not ever claim you just want a “nice girl”, hahah. You fucking hate women who are aren’t turbo sluts for you. If she’s not ins…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 01:28 PM
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How often do you think he calls his mom or dad to talk? When he isn’t trying to get something from them, I mean. And do you think he’s self-aware enough to realize he spends very little time making them feel “less lonely”. 🎼 the cat’s in the cradle and the silver spoon… 🎶
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:59 PM
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A guy who does not care whether his child has food or shelter to survive should not procreate anyways. Resources matter. It’s incredibly gross you think it’s such a horrible evil burden on men that women want their children to survive with zero investment from the father. All you are doing is whining that most women don’t want to procreate with a deadbeat. Like seriously, boo fucking hoo. Most women want the best for their baby, instead of the “men just want to procreate with broke desperate tee…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 12:24 PM
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Well, that’s a bit extreme, if you’re using internet slang here like “unalive”. It is not a form of death or self-violence. I survived. But it is a real sacrifice. And unfortunately some dudes just really do not put any thought into their demand beyond “I want HER to change her name , but I’d never do it because it’s emasculating and my name is important, nyah”. Like, guys, even if you’re all traditional blah blah blah, maybe think a little more about what you’re really asking and be more apprec…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 09:07 PM
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Would you take your spouse’s last name? I did, but there’s some real downsides dudes often do not appreciate or even recognize when they expect this: All the fucking government paperwork. Fucking miserable bullshit. Going to the social security office. Getting your drivers license changed. Updating your bank account. Needing additional documentation for everything. The US Congress is currently trying to push some anti-trans legislation that will also make it harder for anyone whose name doesn’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 08:03 PM
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Why do you automatically assume she thinks people in trades are stupid, unless your problem is that you think they are stupid? I see no indication that she thinks folks in the trades are dumb— especially since she says she herself is intelligent and is in trades. Intelligent is not a synonym for highly educated. Lots of less educated people are intelligent. And likewise, there’s quite a few highly educated people who are absolute fucking morons. Don’t project your own intellectual snobbery on ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 12:37 AM
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I mean in the way that if a woman thinks you are uneducated, she won't talk to you. You seriously did not read what she wrote. She said the exact opposite: that she didn’t give guys with degrees the time of day. She specifically targeted less educated men for dating. Is reading really that hard for you? Or are you just ranting and can’t handle anybody who doesn’t fit in your “women bad” narrative?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 12:24 AM
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Why do you constantly need to tell people? They want to scare younger women into settling for someone like themselves out of fear of becoming an old lonely cat lady. So they’re really saying: “men are only attracted women in their early 20s— you’d better have sex with me before it’s too late”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 11:08 AM
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from dating app stats … you mean the dating app stats where men outnumber women by a factor of 3. And 3 is the number Tinder was willing to publish several years ago. It is likely a lot more imbalanced than that: they have a strong financial incentive not to filter out bots, only fans ads, inactive accounts, women who just made an account to get flattered, and men signing up with a fake pic as a “social experiment”. When there are 10 men for every desirable woman, those women will not select all…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 10:58 AM
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You asked me to “name one” and I easily cited 5 across many eras in western history. Don’t ask for something then make up a dozen new rules and caveats for why those don’t count. I’m not interested in playing calvinball. All men naturally love women and want to protect them Except the ones who don’t do that? Obviously some think women are lowly shit, dude. Stop glorifying all men. Some men do actually hate women and really do suck. Like, who the fuck are these men all supposedly protecting women…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:47 AM
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Being subordinate in situations does not automatically equate to being inferior. The definition in Merrimack Webster indicates subordinate and inferior are synonyms. It’s the first definition. Subordinate 1. placed in or occupying a lower class, rank, or position : INFERIOR So yeah, it does actually equate to being treated as an inferior. That’s what the word means. Religious goobers saying “No you’re totally equal… just ‘different’ and naturally subordinate” is mealy-mouthed sounds-nice bullshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:45 AM
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Sean wasn't "neglected" to the extent of being left on the back of a bus, and nothing else substantial by Sean ever really surfaced, The child he totally neglected was Julian. don't be a misogynist 🙄 There is absolutely zero misogyny in suggesting that an abuser should not be home all day with vulnerable children. Revolting dishonesty on your part to suggest I’m a “misogynist” for saying a known abuser isn’t actually a good parent. I don't know, sounds like you need a trusted grown man to protec…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 11:55 PM
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Then when lennon is a "househusband" he get pillaried, what a joke man Considering John Lennon quite famously has publicly admitted that he beat his wives and neglected his own child. The real joke is you thinking someone like him should be a househusband. 🤡 You know you said that violence is such a great thing for a father— tell me, what do you think happens to a little kid who gets hit that hard by a grown man? I think men being involved fathers is highly valuable, and it’s really unfortunate …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 06:46 PM
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my biological father did in fact want to raise two infants alone Okay. I did not say that all men will absolutely refuse to ever care for an infant, did I? There is a very big difference between stepping up to do something really hard because your already born child need help, and deliberately going out to make a child. As far as I can tell, there are a lot more men who desperately want to set up “paper abortions” than there are who want to chooooose to birth and raise a child totally alone. No …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 02:57 PM
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Anyone can be trained to be a violent brutal evil abuser. Not just men. But that is not how they are born. You’re right that it is a conservative view that people are inherently deeply wicked and must be controlled with extreme brutality and threats of eternal hellfire to keep them in line, though. And yes, it is culture, not that men are inherently made to brutalize their own wives and children. The difference between us is that you believe men are inherently evil and abusing women just the nat…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:08 PM
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I disagree that men are inherently terrible. Most men don’t secretly want to beat and abuse and rape and destroy. For example, men have to be trained and abused in order to be willing to kill in wars. Most men drafted into the Vietnam war would fire their weapons over the tree tops rather than murder other human beings. It was only a small minority of me who were eager to cause pain and suffering. Sadists and abusers love to say that all other men are just like them so they can excuse their own …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 11:41 AM
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if misandry were just a reaction to misogyny, in the US at least, it would have peaked just before 1920 How would you possibly know what levels of misandry women had in the 19-teens? I bet you have not read literally a single word about men either said or written by any woman from that era, lol. Or the 1950s, for that matter. You have no clue what women thought then and you do not care. Here’s a quick hint though: the temperance movement and the push for prohibition in the US were heavily female…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:40 AM
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Counterpoint: the exclusive capacity of women to bear children is a huge component of why men want to marry and protect women in the first place. The overwhelming majority of men do not want to raise an infant alone. It’s a whole lot of work, especially alone. Since men are, by a wide margin, the gender comfortable with accumulating capital/force/influence and enforcing violence Violence is a particularly unhelpful skill in caring for a baby. Typically, one benefits from the mother of his childr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 10:03 PM
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The entire red pill it's self is a reaction to how society has changed due to feminism. So, unless women are stripped of equal rights are a totally disempowered servant class to men, some men will rage out and form a culty little woman-hating cult? Yeah, ok. You’re not selling me on wanting to date those guys. I definitely don’t want to give up my rights for the “privilege” of being some angry guy’s docile broke unappreciated servant. You can’t please some people no matter what you do. The kind …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:50 PM
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Walks like a duck, talks like a duck, is a duck The kitchen is calling hun. A cheap get back in the kitchen joke? No surprises you can’t find a woman to be feminine and cook for you, lol— you clearly have zero respect for women who do work in the kitchen. 🤡 Good grief, you sneer and whine that women aren’t “feminine” any more… and then you turn around and use traditional feminine work as a fucking insult! Guys like you are all the same— you claim to hate modern women, but in reality there’s no w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 12:49 AM
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You act like the Instagram and OnlyFans circus is some fringe minority, but it’s the norm for Western women under 30. No, being a turbo slut on Only Fans and getting your “back blown out” is not the norm for western women under 30. It is the norm for the women you slobber over on your onlyfans whale account. The fact that “thousands of simps” and hookup culture are punchlines They are punchlines only to woman-hating creepazoids online. Not to the vas majority of normal people who are not assumin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 12:41 AM
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Almost no men in the west watch zero porn. And you very clearly spend a great deal of time scrolling the porniest thirst traps on insta while talking about “backs blown out”, the language of someone who watches way too much gross porn. So no, I do not believe you. And I assumed you are not western because you cannot possibly have lived in the west and have 100% of the women you interact with fit this bizarre fantasy caricature. You also speak like someone who has zero western values himself: bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 12:31 AM
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It’s pretty likely he is not western himself and his only knowledge of “western women” comes from his endless fapping and from religious propaganda in some non-western country.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 11:46 PM
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The creepiest part about the story of Sodom and Gomorrah is that Lot, supposedly the one “good man in all the city of Sodom offered up his virgin daughters to be raped by an angry mob. And yet in spite of that genuinely horrible, evil behavior, he’s the “good man” and it was his wife who was turned into a pillar of salt for looking back at the burning town (like any normal person would).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 11:42 PM
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Whatever his grandma is like wherever he’s from?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 11:35 PM
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Why would a woman stay off social media and keep herself virgin when she can get her back blown out every weekend, rack up thousands of simps on IG posting thirst traps This quote says everything about how you spend all your time: lusting desperately after Instagram goobers and porn stars… and fantasizing that you could be them. There’s tons of women in the west not living this crazy lifestyle, but you’ll never see them because the only women you will ever have eyes for are the ones you’re const…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 11:34 PM
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I think he’s trying to say that he wants to threaten you with deadly violence, but he would get banned if he did.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 11:51 AM
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If you believe stealthing is wrong and is a crime you should believe lying about bc is wrong and should be a criminal offense. Yet again, you really clearly do not understand the argument I am making. I am not claiming it’s moral to lie about paterity, and we weren’t even talking about birth control at all— that’s you changing the discussion totally. The discussion was about mandatory universal paternity testing, not about the morality of birth control. I agree it’s immoral to lie about birth co…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 07:59 PM
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I read the whole thing. That is exactly why I think it is very clear you do not understand my argument: because you are still totally wrong about what I am arguing, You made arguments against my individual points, some of which were simply dismissive, and some of which were essentially “oh yeah well you’re a woman and some other women say this. Those did not indicate good understanding at all. No. You made arguments against it, some of which were simply dismissive, and some of which were essenti…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 05:41 PM
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In general I do believe that someone can have a difference of opinion on something not because of gender. But So that’s actually a “no”. In general you think it is possible for people to disagree with you… but not on this particular issue. You do not have any capacity to understand anybody disagreeing with you when it comes to your desire to have the government force something that you can easily and freely already choose to do on your own. Why is it so critically important that the government f…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:53 PM
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And sorry, not to spam your inbox… but I have this question for you in response to your OP: You stated that you genuinely cannot understand why any woman would hold a different opinion from you. Do you still genuinely fail to understand how I hold a different opinion than you on this particular topic? Do you think I am simply stupid for disagreeing with your view? Or are you open to understanding that sometimes people do really genuinely disagree on a topic for real reasons, and it isn’t just be…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:49 AM
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The rate of a false positive or negative is 0. 001 or something like that are 0.01. Where did you get this stat? The study I found shows a false negative rate on modern paternity tests (“related identified as being unrelated”) of around 0.058%. Small… but performed as a mandatory test, that’s 2000 families every year. Thats not trivial no matter how much you want to believe it is. You are safer trusting of paternity test than you are a condom. Very interesting comparison, considering condoms are…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 07:37 PM
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The only person who loses here is someone whose story wouldn't survive verification. The same infrastructure expansion would also processes rape kits faster. I actually do oppose mandatory testing for a bunch of real reasons (none of which are about protecting a cheating bitch!): You say the only ones who lose are those whose “story wouldn’t survive verification”, but that is factually wrong. All tests have a risk of running a false positive or a false negative. There is no perfect test and dna …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 05:26 PM
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Since I can't breastfeed Formula has saved the lives of a lot of babies whose mothers cannot breastfeed. Some women have illnesses or injuries or need medications that prevent them breastfeeding, and sometimes they just cannot produce enough for the baby to thrive. Sometimes the mother dies in childbirth or after. Lots of babies are raised on formula, and they are very healthy. Modern formula is good enough that some women can breastfeed but simply choose not, and doctors don’t worry about it. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:38 AM
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The manosphere content they’ve been consuming is a contributor of that but that time will pass very soon. Ok, I see zero evidence evidence that the manosphere, which has been very active for well over 20 years and hasn’t actually evaporated like you think. But by the same logic, the weird princess content these women you criticize have been consuming is the same kind of contributor that last just as long, Why are you foisting all the blame on this niche demographic of women while dismissing a fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:38 PM
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Again you blame a particular group of women for watching romance movies (?), and paint men as the only people fighting gender expectations. So seriously, if men do not like such women, why do men (like you) pay so much attention to them and ignore women who are more progressive? And I certainly do not see evidence that more and more men are interested in dismissing female beauty standards or even traditional roles— there seems to be quite a resurgence of young men expecting women to be tradition…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 03:41 PM
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Ok. And my point is that A) being progressive and B) being consistent didn’t get me any male interest. As for C), you put everything on women. I genuinely dislike chivalry… some men performing chivalry are doing it as a covert contract or are condescending with it, and I very honestly don’t like it. You blame women 100% for these gender roles, yet I have had men literally get offended at me when I opened the door for them. What I have seen is a lot of men angry when women are not appreciative en…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 02:57 PM
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Men in 2026 don’t approach as much, prefer to split bills 50/50, don’t bring flowers on first dates, and don’t serenade as often—not because we don’t care, but because the culture around these things has simply shifted Sure. And the way I found out that I had to approach is that men strongly preferred to approach other women than me. I didn’t expect the man to pay or (lol) buy me flowers, but they also really didn’t seem interested in me at all. Nobody is forcing you to buy women flowers and all…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 02:20 PM
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Men generally don’t want the woman who is willing to fuck any man in the city who’ll have her. They have lots of very insulting terms for such women. It shouldn’t be too complicated to recognize that women also don’t want to be a man’s ten-thousandth backup beta choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 02:09 PM
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This would make sense if the nuclear family were natural. But it is not. Humans have always been social and had extended families. It wasn’t one man and woman against the world. I agree, and I didn’t say it was. But humans are not a species where the father’s participation in parenting is totally irrelevant. For example, very often in humans, marriage/relationships were exogamous— the woman was moved away from her own family and taken to be with his. This is common in hunter gatherer tribes. It …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 11:27 PM
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How similar in birds for example males make the nest. Depends on the bird species. In some, the males start a nest and the female finishes (wrens and weaver birds). Many birds don’t make nests (penguins) or make meme-worthy jokes of nests (rock doves aka city pigeons), in some species it’s a joint effort (barn swallows and bluebirds), and in others (robins, mallards) it’s female led or a solo female activity. Simple fact society cares much less of what women offer The breakdown of gender roles i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 03:49 PM
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Its flipped cause we rely on tools and clothes to survive. Thats why its flipped and mostly men take care of building and tools It’s weird you mention that humans rely on tools and clothes to survive, but then turn around and immediately say it’s basically only men that worked. For the bad majority of cultures and most of history, women were the ones who manufactured textiles. It’s almost universal. Even today, most clothing and textiles manufacturing work (by hand and by machine) is performed b…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 12:53 PM
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Its more of an exception and weird quirk of humans. It’s not a weird quirk, it’s a direct result of male selection and female competition. Human babies and children are the most profoundly difficult and time-consuming to raise of all animals in the animal kingdom. Attracting a man and keeping him around to help with that is extremely advantageous for human women, so female sexual competition for better mates has always been important. Humans are not polar beare where the male fucks a mate and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 11:45 AM
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Because at the end of the day, several hundred times more matches are several hundred times more matches. Never having to initiate, being able to afford to be shyer and still date, even men doing small gestures for you. These things are rooted in biology. All these comments are evidence that you think only top 10% Stacies are real women, and disregard all average and below average women. I never saw any of that shit you claim I got. I was ordinary (no, not fat) and mostly ignored. Your belief is…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 11:40 AM
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No, that works once in a blue moon. Basically the same for men making cold approaches. It’s an extremely low success rate. And the most effective at it are usually running a con.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 12:40 AM
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I keep seeing this idea that "just meeting a woman in person" somehow “overrides” online preferences and everything that happens on dating apps. I don’t really buy that. It could provide her additional qualities she could be attracted to that cannot be experienced through an app For example, the sound of your voice, the way you smell, the way you move, the way you smile, the way you feel (e.g. dancing together), the way you interact together. Your charm. Your timing. Your wit. Chemistry. Spark. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:03 PM
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So you… live your life as a non-criminal “good guy” while hating on and avoiding the women who want non-criminal men. You want pussy and head, yet avoid those ugly boring women who have pussies... clever plan, dude. Some men cannot be helped. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 09:23 PM
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Hypergamy, duh! I mean doh!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 09:12 PM
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Always funny watching guys like you goon after the dumbest, worst fucking women alive while shitting endlessly on the nice girls you claim to prefer. Seriously, if you’re sad a hot criminal chaser doesn’t want you, you are exactly the same as the women you are criticizing: you want the bad girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 09:10 PM
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Many people do buy things from salespeople too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:19 AM
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Hmm. Most people (you included) don’t like being cold called by telemarketers. So maybe we should create some spaces where you volunteer to be hit up by telemarketers. A telemarketer safe space, if you will, where you can go to have your phone blown up. How many people will want to sign up for this? And do you think that will actually end the telemarketing calls outside of the “safe space”? Why or why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:08 AM
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True I didn’t waste time trying to convince a bigot with logic There is nothing I, as a lowly, dumb inherently inferior female, can do that he will take seriously, remember. There’s no point in wasting the effort on something so useless as arguing that I’m worthy of the respect of someone who is so unworthy of respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:42 PM
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Hardest Dating Market off all time by far No. It is estimated, based on genetic studies, that you have roughly twice the number of female ancestors as male. In other words, women were twice as likely to reproduce as men. Around 4,000 to 8,000 years ago, there was an extreme bottleneck where it is estimated that only around 1 man reproduced for every 17 women. I’m sure those 16/17 men had it harder than you. The Reason why a Top 50% Women, can easily marry a Top 15% Guy today Polygamy isn’t legal…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 04:56 PM
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One of the biggest hurdles for me is that it feels like most women rarely have an opinion that is truly their own. Meanwhile you regurgitate this, one of the oldest and least original boomer claims around. Old pedophile codgers in Ancient Greece said the same shit too, lol. You yourself aren’t having an original thought here either. You’re just religiously chanting some ancient bigoted feelings as your own. Can’t really take you seriously, either, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 04:49 PM
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No, plenty of men are awesome and they bring plenty to the table. As for inherently, maybe you’re just not straight or a woman? Some men look good, smell good, sound good, move good. It is pretty nice to enjoy the body of a guy you are actually attracted to. And I don’t want to be valued for just my body— I am so much more than just a pair of tits and an ass. Besides… your body doesn’t stay hot and pretty for all that long. I only want to be with someone who would still value me past my “peak fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 02:53 PM
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People who had slaves thought of them as lesser beings, this was normal thing for them. Do you think slavery is a reasonable analogy for your dating complaints? In the US, we fought a war to end slavery. Hundreds of thousands of me died for that practice to end… and yet slavery also continues on internationally to this day. And in the US, there’s still a bunch of people who are kinda mad about that civil war and think it was super unfair. “The war of northern aggression”. So by analogy, are you …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 02:34 PM
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There are quota hiring In the US, quotas are absolutely and totally illegal. You are required to consider candidates of different sex, race, and other protected classes, but you are actually forbidden to use quotas. women representations in jobs is an important statisitc nowadays It is tracked and it is talked about… same way marriage statistics are also tracked and talked about. There is absolutely zero legal requirement for any individual to “do their part” to change those statistics. You are …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:36 PM
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Hiring isn’t “fair” either. You can be 100% perfectly qualified for the job and not get picked. Anybody who has applied for a job knows life isn’t fair. And actually, you also already have equal right to date men. You are perfectly free (now) to offer the “job” of dating you to men as well. To actually make dating fair in the same way as non-discrimination employment laws, that would mean requiring, by law, for straight men to equally consider dating other men. And I’m really really sure that’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:03 PM
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It is already 100% legal (at least in the US) to be discriminatory and not hire a particular sex whenever the sex of the employee is relevant to their job. For a really clear example, Hollywood casting for the part of a new James Bond can ask for male actors only and does not have to consider any women if they don’t want. Likewise, if you are hiring for a male stripper club, you don’t have to interview any women period— they are not fit for the role “man taking off his clothes for an audience”.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:33 AM
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Just a few extremely powerful and/or influential men Martin Luther: “God created man with a broad chest, not broad hips, so that in that part of him he can be wise; but that part out of which filth comes is small. In a woman this is reversed. That is why she has much filth and little wisdom.” “when women speak well, it is not praiseworthy. It befits them to stammer and not be able to speak well; that adorns them much better. ” Napoleon: “In France, women are considered too [much], they shouldn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:52 PM
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Good lord you are so fucking worked up that women don’t automatically assume a strange man is safe. I made a cheeky comment about how yeah, actually pandas never killed a person and no, pandas do not have “the worst bite of all bears”, and you respond to that with a huge wild rant written out of massive offense that women are cautious of men they don’t know. Good grief, I wasn’t gonna pick the bear in general… but I’d pick a bear over someone showing obvious signs of insanity if that were the qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:56 AM
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Pandas bite in captivity when the person is right up next to them. Pandas do not chase humans down to harm them. And lol, that’s complete nonsense you made up to be a little contrarian. Polar bear bites are fatal. There are almost no panda bites to compare to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:31 AM
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Who says they didn't? Your misandrist professor? The words those men wrote themselves if their own free will. Religion writings. Political rights for women. You don’t need any made up misandrist straw-puppet brainwashing professor to just read how men write about women before the modern era. Read some historical writings from men about how they felt about the women. There’s a lot more historical writings declaring women inferior and subordinate to men than there are writings declaring women to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:28 AM
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Or pandas. There’s apparently zero cases of a panda killing a human. Can’t say the same for humans…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:35 PM
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but I don't think that "modern" women even understand what idyllic femininity actually is to a man. So what? If it was so important to men, then historically, they’d have treated women as real equals, instead of regarding women as inferiors. Pretty clear it doesn’t mean all that much to men. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:32 PM
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Lol thats like saying there is no benefit for a men providing for a women. Most men today are not providers and many who are do not want to be and deeply resent it. So not really a great argument to her post. Men usually want to be a provider specifically for the benefits, and they think they’re getting cheated if they don’t get loads of benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 06:27 PM
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Yeah, it’s a mix of both. It having no public accountability and no clear universal measure of success does make it less noticeable… But likewise, there’s a thousand professional jobs like that that have no obvious direct metric of success. Why is raising the future of our civilization the one job where we just culturally shrug our collective shoulders and way “eh, it’s too impossible for anyone to see the value in it, better not try”? (Not you… but definitely 100% all the dudes who think “how d…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 05:40 PM
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The modern trad dudes are definitely a weird contradiction: “Women! You neeeeeeeed to stay home and raise the children and do the chores!!1! Oh but also if you do, then you’re inferior and don’t deserve any protections or a safety net, and we will never respect you because all that feminine work is worthless compared to my important man work building civilization all my myself”. 🙄 Of course, I’m not sure it was any different in the past either. It’s not like most men historically thought of thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 05:20 PM
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And frankly, it would be kinda fucked up if they didn’t Seems rather fucked up to me that so many men scold women for something they would never do themselves. Funny how you scold women if they do exactly the thing so many men pride themselves on: being a wage slave. 🤷‍♀️ though women who don’t want to be home with their kids are typically covertly acknowledging they reproduced with the wrong dude No, she’s reproduced with the wrong dude if he prioritizes his paycheck over family time and shits …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 05:11 PM
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I don’t think that’s a good argument for this invisibility. That entropy is exactly the same in a ton of jobs— lots and lots of paid work is “business as usual” jobs that “keep the lights on”, in corporate speak. They are not noticeable unless they observe you… which they always do! The work is exactly the same as usual, and yet it is always still observed, judged, and tracked in a job. I would also point out that innovation work is far from the majority of work that gets paid and done. Then on …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:28 AM
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Nah, sweetheart, oh wait, that’s the exact endearment my uncles and cousins have used for their wives and daughters for generations in our ethnic community. Totally disingenuous. You are not my family, and in most conservative cultures, it is extremely offensive to treat a strange woman like she is family. You know this. You are instead using overly familiar terms to try to put me in my place as a woman, who you see as beneath you. You are not my husband or my uncles or my father or my brothers—…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 11:53 AM
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Sweetheart, that’s precious. This is condescending, sexist and pointlessly rude, so I don’t buy one second of your false accusations of “racism” that you’re actually offended, lol. I really don’t care what race you are— telling you to go back to where your values actually align is not racist. It’s culturalist, and I’m telling you to do that precisely because you are so deeply unhappy with the cultural values you’re bitching about. suddenly it’s “just culture, bro.” You’re the one calling western…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 11:28 PM
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Real liberal of you and totally not racist. I don’t care about your little shaming tactics, because you are quite wrong. Nothing I said has anything to do with race, only culture. It is not racist to tell you that your desire for arranged marriage is not western at all, and has not been a practice in western countries for millennia. It is also not racist to tell you that if it upsets you so much that western women don’t like arranged marriages, then you would be much much happier living somewher…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 09:29 PM
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Feminist means “woman I don’t like” to some folks. Guys like that think feminists are everywhere— because they don’t like any women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:16 PM
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One I’ve seen here frequently: Woman: makes an argument Dude: (gets angry) why are you so emotional!?! *Proceeds to argue exclusively about how he thinks the woman feels instead of actually addressing the point.* It’s so annoying and so ancient. Like, it’s such a stupid Victorian era dismissal, yet it is still used sometimes by modern young men. Edit to add: Also (and this is specific to the pillosphere): circular logic and logical inconsistency… often while also ironically insisting men are inh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:15 PM
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Arranged marriages are culturally extremely foreign, and have been for millenia in western culture. Like seriously, women in the west don’t hate them because “it’s so much better”, 🤣. They literally do not see any successful happy arranged marriages ever, at all. Is reason they hate arranged marriages is the same reason they hate wearing a burka— it’s weird tribal unfamiliar oppressive alien cultural stuff they think is stupid and backwards and controlling. Western men and women also just don’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 02:55 PM
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No kidding. He’s literally taking pride in the idea of disrespecting whoever he’s with, then blames women for his perverse obsession with treating her like shit. Like… 😒. Eughgh. Sounds like he built his whole life philosophy out of some weird free online degradation porn shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 02:33 PM
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Lol, you want me to find a man so rare he is genuinely below average in every possible way? Just as it is incredibly rare to find a person who is above average in every single possible way… it is equally rare to find someone who is truly below average in every single possible way! Just look at what your premise is here: if the man is merely above average in 1 way, no matter how many negative traits he has, then she is hypergamous and he is superior to her. And yet on the flip side, no matter how…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:57 PM
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Nobody gives a shit about effort— a dude who works his aas off and gets nowhere is not admired. Only results matter. Women don’t give a shit about your vain gym routine, and neither does anyone else. And likewise, many feminine traits do require quite a lot of effort: being nurturing, kind, agreeable, graceful, and gentle all require effort. Yet you do not ever consider these worthy of counting as “marrying up” for a man, becasue you do not actualy admire or respect these traits either in themse…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 11:44 AM
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It’s hypergamy to them because masculine traits are good and worthy of admiration to them, and feminine traits are dull and inferior. You being attracted to strength must mean strength is superior because (according to them) women are always hypergamous, so anything women are attracted to must prove superiority. In contrast, anything a man is attracted to is nothing of importance. A man being attracted to bigger breasts doesn’t mean anything, because men don’t value something like that. If a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 07:43 PM
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They insist on it as a core part of their “a man should be in charge and his woman should be submissive to his direction” world view. Believing a man is automatically superior, somehow, is critical to their desire for a woman who is subordinate to the man’s choices and flatters him with admiration and praise. In other words, it is emotionally very important to red pill men to not respect their girlfriends/wives, and to view her as automatically lesser. Their belief in female hypergamy is entirel…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 07:38 PM
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Yep. I don’t know what “it” is, but your girlfriend’s got it, lol. I say this as a woman who definitely doesn’t have “it”. I do think people can somewhat cultivate “it”… but only to some extent. There are some people who just instinctively are irresistible. I know I will never ever, no matter how much I practice or train, have “it”. There’s some people who are just so incredibly naturally magnetic, and lol, I know I’m not one of them. I’m definitely naturally on the other side of it— naturally u…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 01:16 PM
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Part of the reason guys don’t recognize the value of charisma in men is that they attribute it purely to looks, especially when the charismatic person is a woman. There are some really charismatic women who just really absolutely draw men to them well out of proportion to their raw appearance… and men drawn to her will mistakenly believe it was just all looks. But if that same woman had a boring demeanor or was aloof or frigid or dull or reserved (not cute flirty bashful shy, which is what they …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 11:32 AM
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Yes, these “men built society all by themselves” guys do not respect any of the work done by women at all. Ever. They view women as cute pets and nothing more. Certainly not as people capable of anything of worth. What they want from women is endless praise and adoration (see also their obsession with calling women “hypergamous”), and what they want to give to women in return is nothing but control, disrespect, and degradation. It’s 100% about praising themselves and shitting on women. Edit: to …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 04:33 PM
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Right, but Epstein and his ilk are also a weird diversion from the subject at hand. Not really. They are powerful me who use their power to round up women for their personal harems. Similarly, Elon pays women lots and lots of money to bear his children— women have to be paid a lot of money to do this. If it were inherent and natural for women to be hypergamously drawn to be part of a high status man’s “harem”, the richest man on earth wouldn’t have to pay them to do it. Likewise, you ignored the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 04:27 PM
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Why would you focus on the actual practice of harems? Why? it’s just one of many examples I gave. Did you stop reading after the first sentence? Non-monogamy is how men have frequently used their power, and still often do today. Epstein is pretty modern— lots of those disgusting, evil old ~men~ child rapists are still alive. I know a guy who slept with over a 100 women. Sounds a whole lot like a man who doesn’t like monogamy and wants to fuck around, same as the women he fucked. And I bet most o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 02:59 PM
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So many woman, one man, a common pattern. The most common cases of harems are strictly enforced by men. Actual harems had women in cages under armed eunuch guards. Traditional momon polygamy involved the religious elders forcing out the actualy attractive young men that young women actualy wanted so they could force 13 year old girls to be their wife-servants. Polygamy globally today usually involves forced marriage and child rape. And then you run your mouth off claiming it’s *women being “hype…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 02:53 AM
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Yeah, sorry, typo or autocorrect. It should read: ‘ Slutty men are usually proud of fucking around and assume women will find it impressive and attractive if he says he is “experienced”. ‘
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 02:45 AM
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How do you know that a man just wants you for sex? What are the signals? What were your experiences? I have never in my life dated (or had sex with) a man who just wanted me for sex. The guys who just wanted sex just somehow coincidentally pursued women who are hotter, dressed sexier, were more flirtatious, and acted more sexually alluring than me. Fuckbois didn’t even bother trying even a first date with someone as boring and plain as me, lol. I probably also put out really strong vibes that I’…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 07:58 PM
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You’re cherry picking specific behaviors. Like yeah, you’d love it if hot women simped for you the way some men simp for hot women. But a whole lot of men absolutely fucking hate it when any woman shows him the same lack of respect he has for women. It’s even in the red pill side bar for men to want deferential respect from women and for men not to give her respect in return. Men who don’t get the respect they feel they deserve often get violent. I won’t claim that’s all men, but a whole lot of …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 11:55 AM
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So you blame women exclusively for any choice a man makes in dating. Is an example that “male accountability” that red pillers keep bragging about? I’m certainly not impressed. No, women don’t “control” the sexual market place. Men and women both make their own individual decisions on who to date and how to act around each other. But nice try at deflecting all responsibility for your own foolish choices. And do you hold me personally responsible for the choices of other men and women? If a man i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:49 PM
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Yeah I’d agree there, then. Just like phone screens have made porn infinitely accessible (and more “out there”).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:30 PM
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Nobody claimed all women are perfect, and it’s silly for you to expect every woman to consistently make good life choices or else you won’t respect any of them. Like… women are the equals of men. A lot of men are fucking stupid or completely fuckin nuts, right? So why are you so shocked not all women are sane and smart?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:29 PM
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It’s very likely it doesn’t mean she is asking you to nearly kill her. Squeezing someone’s neck in any way can result in very serious damage, even if you think you know what you’re doing. Doubly so if it’s a dude who doesn’t know his own strength and women’s necks’ anatomy and strength and doesn’t know how weak the hyoid bone is or how quickly you can cause brain damage by applying pressure the wrong way to the neck. And even if he thinks he can do it all just right… how well does he moderate hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:42 AM
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I dunno, bodice ripper romance novels have been around for decades. They weren’t called “bodice rippers” because the dudes in them were just so respectful. I just don’t think the weird twisted dark smut is all that new.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 11:24 PM
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You exact words were: for 80 percentiles worth of males, they get nothing. Your words. Not mine. And insulting me personally (calling me “a manipulative woman”) for your unwillingness to own your own words is ironically very manipulative of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 04:44 PM
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These countries and cultures didn't magically implement this form of female subjugation because men en masse wanted to enslave women. This is irrelevant: the outcome is exactly the same. You claimed it was impossible for men to organize and subjugate women, and yet it clearly is possible because it has happened. It comes from regressive moral belief systems And 100% male-controlled organized religions operating in 100% male governments that that demand complete obedience and groveling submission…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 04:40 PM
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The co founder of ok Cupid wrote that 80% of men are kissless touchless virgins? Ok, then he is also wrong. And no one cares that you disagree because you are both wrong. Stop basing your entire life on data apps stats: the apps themselves are overwhelmingly male. Yeah, of course only 20% of men are gonna get attention on an app where men outnumber women on the app 5 to 1. What do you expect, exactly, for every woman on the app to run a train with 5 men to make things “fair”? All so then you cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:08 PM
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A biased perspective… is that some women have actually been enslaved? Are you familiar with history or current events at all? Are you allergic to facts? It’s not biased to acknowledge that, for example, women in Afghanistan today legally cannot leave their homes without a male master and are legally prohibited from speaking in public. You claim what has actually happened in reality is impossible. The real reason you’re “not going to bother” is because you don’t want to acknowledge any men anywhe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:02 PM
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Just once. I hit on someone because of misreading signals, next thing I knew I had a shit reputation in my uni group and only my loyal male friends were ok to hang out with me. Sorry, that does suck. I will agree people can be unreasonable— I had a friend who had to switch universities because everyone she knew (friends there included) turned on her when she dumped her abusive boyfriend. (And before anyone jumps in a claims it was a false accusation, I met the guy later when she considered getti…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 02:52 PM
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the data actually shows that men show interest linearly according to attractiveness percentile. With an exception at high percentile women. So men are actually very reasonable here. Men are not “reasonable” about their attraction, lol. Attraction is not built on reason, period. Not for men and not for women. You have never once spoken to a woman and decided she was attractive based on logic 🤣 But yes, I am aware that a whole lot of men would gladly fuck anyone vaguely female shaped any time, if …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 02:38 PM
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a lot of women apparently get very sour or just scared when a man approaches and it falls short. The man is directly labelled a creep. Then move on and try someone else friendlier another time. A lot of women don’t get terrified any time a man talks to her, so hopefully that’s the kind of woman you talk with next time. Some girl being sour or even calling you a “creep” doesn’t really mean anything. The police aren’t gonna throw you in the clink overnight for walking up to a woman and saying “hi”…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:48 PM
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It would never ever happen… except for all the times it already did happen. Men did actually enslave women (including their own wives and daughters) in some parts of the world today and in history. Sooo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:08 PM
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or if it will continue to be a form of glorified modern chivalry And yet so often it is men who are the ones who bring up chivalry to try to put women in their place. Why is it always men who expect me to be soooo grateful for such minor stuff I never asked for? I can open doors for myself. Stop trying to act like you opening a door for someone is some great heroic act that I’m supposed to grovel and worship men for. I’ll say a quick thanks and open the door for the next person, no condescending…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:50 AM
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Just another example of dudes only ever noticing the very hottest 10% of women. Nobody bought me shit or “lavished me with gifts” for just existing, lol, and it’s just fine. Really honestly! You are unfortunately too completely obsessed with Instagram baddies and models and porn stars to notice the actual equality staring you in the face: the looks match women you ignore completely. I’m pretty happy with equality here, though. Cannot believe you’re whining that you’re not a spoiled little prince…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:46 AM
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Any western woman who wants to have casual sex can just go do it. And most don’t want to. But even if she doesn’t, you will still assume she did anyways. That’s why you need casual sex to be forbidden for women— because you assume all western women are sluts. That is nonsensical. It is what you have already assumed above, that almost all western women are sluts and it’s too hard for you to find one who isn’t. That’s not paranoia, it’s just the underlying premise of your comment. Can't be a ball …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:55 PM
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You’d still assume in your head she always wanted casual sex and doesn’t really “genuinely” desire you. Hell, you will still assume your girlfriend is having casual sex, regardless of facts. And likewise… how is she supposed to cope with the fact that what he really really want is casual sex, and he is only settling for her because he can’t get the pumping and dumping he really wants? I can’t imagine wanting to be the old “ball and chain” to a dude whose only true desire in life is to fuck rando…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:17 AM
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I was disagreeing with your initial claim. No. My initial claim was that it is easier to lie convincingly in a text. I absolutely did not claim reading body language could “factually discern a lie”— that is a dull strawman you made up. You are being deliberately obtuse and making up things I did not say at all. If lies like that are how you treat people on dating platforms, then it is not surprising you think you’re so good at sussing out lies in text: it’s confirmation bias. You just make up th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:49 AM
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You can't actually undo abortion, but you can actually undo a paper abortion. It is actually very easy to undo. Why would it be? Legally scrapping your parental rights is a permanent action. Birth parents have zero rights to their child after they give them up for adoption. Same with sperm donors. Since her bodily autonomy is supposedly more important - she is the one who informs him. Hers isnt “more important”. It is simply that her bodily autonomy includes the pregnancy inside her body., where…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 09:50 AM
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Body language factually can’t inform you of how the person actually feels or thinks or if they’re lying. Neither can texts. There are no 100% guarantees in anything in life except that everyone will die. If you need to have a guarantee that everything be 100% perfectly proven all the time, then why are you dating at all? Nothing can ever factually enable you to read someone’s mind. Least of all text messages. But talking in person is a lot better at that than text at discerning honesty, actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 08:55 AM
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No, body language communicates a lot. Text communicates only a fraction of what the spoken word does. I’m not trying to get personal at you, but are you autistic? Because “body language doesn’t mean anything” is simply not true to most neurotypical people in the least. Humans evolved to be actually very good at reading and responding to bodily gestures, facial expressions etc. Messaging in the app is what is meaningless. Again, it’s way easier to lie or even just fake entirely and have ChatGPT d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:12 AM
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Yep. That is another good point. And there’s kind of an unspoken obligation to stick around and be polite (even if it’s going horribly!) if the date is expensive, from both sides. If it’s a coffee date or a bagel date or a beer or an ice cream— just something casual— then it’s so much easier for both of you to cut it short with no hard feelings. And if it’s going well, it’s also much easier to do more from there, where both of you can clearly signal “I like you” by extending the date or setting …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:04 AM
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You underestimate men in their capability to want almost any woman’s No, you underestimate men in your profound misandry. Most normal non-criminal men are not willing to marry just any trashy bizarre criminal-seeking missile. You included. Sure, a lot more of them genuinely don’t care at all if it’s just sex, but for a relationship, her personality does usually matter for the vast majority of men. Men who actually don’t care at all and would eagerly marry any creature with a vagina are the excep…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:57 AM
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The chances that you find someone that wants you and you want in return increase the higher the number of people that are interested in you is. Not if you appeal to lots and lots of people you don’t want and fail to appeal to the people you do want. For example, if you do somehow do get swamped with tons of attention from serial killer chasers, and no other women, that doesn’t actually increase your chances. You are making the mistake of viewing women as interchangeable and women’s interest as t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 08:34 PM
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No, if you want an actual relationship, the number of women interested doesn’t matter at all as long as there is exactly one who you want who also wants you in return. The number of women interested only matters if you want a harem. Bitterness that the genuinely awful, insane women who write letters to famous serial killers don’t know you and don’t want a non-famous, non-serial killer is really odd if what you want is a stable relationship. Many good men who you would respect and who are not ser…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 05:39 PM
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Disagree entirely. The app communicates almost nothing. It’s sterile boring still photos plus maybe a few lines of awkward stilted texting. It’s also way easier to lie via text because you have zero read on their body language. Hell, folks today probably even just use chat gpt to handle the task. Modern dating apps give even less information on real compatibility than they used to. So no you cannot suss out compatibility beyond a very very few things on a dating app. And meeting in person is the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 05:28 PM
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Yes. I’m a huge fan of the coffee date or the “let’s meet for a beer” date. It makes sense that neither of you is “invested” in each other yet. It’s a quick, low-stakes way to see how you like each other in person. Requiringit to be some expensive, involved thing also means raising the stakes and the pressure. I am way more a fan of low-pressure meetings where there were no future expectations. I didn’t want the kind of pressure that comes with a big involved event.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 05:24 PM
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Men might have encouraged it …. But so have women. And likewise, making a dude pay a bunch of money on a first date is not the only way (or the best way) to evaluate whether a guy is just a fuckboy or interested in a real relationship. There’s plenty of deceptive men who will be willing to just shell out some cash like you’re hooker so he can get quick sex. Him spending money is sometimes possibly a signal he’s interested, but it’s no guarantee, and it also means he might view you as high mainte…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 05:17 PM
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It’s an extreme example, that exactly demonstrates the truth of what I said. Almost nobody thinks they are actually the villain, not even mass murderers. A man thinking he is a good guy is completely meaningless— it’s just how nearly all people think. And unfortunately, the men online here saying “women are all such rotten shallow bitches because they women always choose the bad guy instead of a good guy like me” are actually demonstrating clear signs that they are not good guys at all. Wouldn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 02:55 PM
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Even the most evil, horrible people don’t think they’re a “bad person”. Some of the guys who say they’re a “good guy”and are mad that women don’t go for the “good guy” are not actually good guys at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 01:00 PM
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Ah ok, so rules for thee but not for me. Nope, a permanent committed decision you make just before the last actual action you can physically take and cannot actually undo. There is no difference of consequence for him whether he has to decide before sex or waits and waits until after she’s knocked up— but there is a real difference in her being able to decide whether to avoid getting pregnant by avoiding sex with all the information at hand. The pregnancy affects her and not him at all. Wym if h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 12:50 PM
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I always did (and I meant it!). I paid for both of us on some cases (I invited the guy out, or it was my turn on date 2 or whatever). Aside from just being fair and polite, it also has the side benefit of accurately communicating to the guy that I’m not interested in fulfilling trad roles and being a stay at home wife. If the guy gets offended or is excessively pushy about him paying the bill, or if he never lets me pay, then he’s inflexible and not compatible with someone like me, who likes to …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 08:46 AM
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No, because she is the only one with any consequences in this scenario, so no, she can still change her mind. There is no take-backs in abortion, and so there would be no take-backs on a “paper abortion” for a man either. If he signs up to have 0 responsibility for any consequences of sex then the responsibility for a child is 100% on the woman anyways from that moment on. He wanted to walk away and wants nothing to do with her or her possible children— neither she nor any children she has are l…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 08:08 AM
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Wait, WHAT?! Are these men raping these women? Nobody said anything about rape except you. What kind of person are you that you think that being honest about your willingness to support a child is rape? Why do you trivialize rape like this? The women are choosing to have sex with men ALSO!! Yes they are. And both parties should be fully informed. If you are insisting all of the consequences and responsibility for sex should lie 100% on the woman alone, then it is only fair that she be enabled to…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 08:00 AM
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No, not before the abortion window closes. They should formally forfeit their rights before having sexual contact with the woman. The woman should be 100% informed that he will guaranteed bail before there is any risk of pregnancy whatsoever— and he cannot change his mind or ever see the kid if she decides to have the child either. That is the closest to actually being fair that is possible. But the guys here arguing for “paper abortions” won’t accept that kind of fairness because they don’t wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 02:36 AM
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If one of the guys in my friend group brought a fat, ugly, smelly woman that has a shitty job, or no job at all, we wouldnt judge him. My guy friends discussed then set up a gentle 1:1 “you deserve better, and we’re here for you if you need us” intervention with another guy friend when he was dating a girl who wasn’t good enough. (Her being fat wasn’t the core issue… but she was mean and a mooch and controlling). Whereas women judge their friends partners much more harshly. Ok, that’s your opini…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 04:22 PM
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Have you heard of prostitution before? Some women will accept payment to do things that “make them look crappy”. And some men, like you, cannot want to believe a pretty girl could ever possibly be like that because of the halo effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 03:01 PM
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They hone in on the descriptive word "submissive" because that is what the end product looks like. You think they don’t know what the word “submit” means at all? I suppose that’s a fair possibility: there are a lot of people who don’t know what the words they use mean. See also “literally”. But they also fight tooth and nail to use the word submissive anyways when challenged with its actual definition. Like the definition is really easy to look up. It also doesn't help that modern women are not …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:55 AM
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Well also the problem that a lot of guys here think “asshole” means “tall”. This sub is so weird, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 03:16 PM
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That’s 100% the case for all the “men built society and protect you, so you lowly females should worship me” breed of perpetually online dweebs. And there’s some element of this in other men, particularly some trad religious men, who expect some form of gratitude and admiration from women for merely being born male. I don’t think it’s universal though. Lots of men are also capable of treating women like individuals and don’t expect bowed heads and a submissive groveling apologetic tone before th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 01:29 PM
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No accountability for your own words and usage, it’s all just “everything is all women’s fault”. If submissive really only meant respectful and non-quarrelsome to you, then you’d know that good women also prefer cooperative, competent, non-quarrelsome, respectful men as long as he’s also attractive looking enough (which men require in a woman too, before you complain about that). If you think you have to be a bad person to get women, it’s because you’re obsessed with bad and criminal women, not …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 11:50 AM
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outdated I will admit I have noticed the red pill overall has mostly stopped pushing some of their older problematic shit. Like, it’s been a while since I’ve seen red pillers push negging, “last minute resistance” (that one was troubling!), captain/first mate… they’ve also mostly dropped some of their really cringey catch phrases (“shit eating grin”, “maintain frame”, Granted, they’ve traded some of those for new garbage (even deeper obsession with Chad, black pill lookism, hyperfocus on Tinder,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 04:36 PM
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I have literally never seen anyone argue this: “8-5 is not suitable for women because they have 28 day cycles instead of 24 hour cycles.“ It sounds about as logically sound as the much more popular claim that Hillary Clinton (a post-menopausal woman during the election) would have been a bad president because her periods would make her launch a nuke 🙄. Idiots will throw any soggy spaghetti claims at the wall to see what sticks. This argument that women are hormonally incapable of working sounds …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 04:12 PM
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I sure as hell didn’t post the honest truth when I was a virgin on dating apps! Lol, what an awful idea. My inbox would have been full of nasty shit if I had: either men like you calling me a lying slut or creepy virgin fetish slut dudes who had their fun and now want to conquer a virgin for the bragging rights. The real truth is that men will think what they want about you and decide they are right regardless of the truth. Short hair? Slut! Not married at 25? Slut! Cleavage visible? Slut! Lotta…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 12:47 PM
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Yep. And in prior eras, it was still other young pretty men they preferred: NSYNC, Backstreet Boys, Justin Bieber, etc. And it’s not a new thing: Elvis was 21 when he became a massive superstar and girls were fainting in the audience. When young women were screaming for the Beatles, those men were in their 20s (they split up before they even turned 30). Young women seem to prefer young men. Not 35 year olds like red pillers keep wishfully claiming.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 09:10 AM
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Amazing that’s how much you view A women for merely being the same age as the “sexiest men alive”, lol. Seriously, you should never marry or have children: no matter how young and beautiful a woman is when you get with her, you’ll absolutely despise her within a few short years.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 08:59 AM
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You don’t know me, but I didn’t fuck any Chads when I was young if that’s what you’re trying to imply. But likewise it wouldn’t have mattered either way— my male peers didn’t seem to be attracted to me when I was “in my prime”. Maybe go be mad at someone hotter than me instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 11:43 PM
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Take for instance the men selected for the sexiest man alive covers. Notice how almost all the men are in their 30's to 50's. And lol, who do you think is the audience of People Magazine? Their key audience is 45 year old soccer moms in the waiting room at the pediatrician’s office, not the hot 18 year olds you guys want. The magazine is written and catered to the audience of middle-aged women who are very into celebrity gossip. Congrats on winning so big with the women you don’t consider an “op…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 05:48 PM
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I agree with that. I disagree with your claim that the “women” are all out fucking Chad just as I also disagree with the notion that all men care only about looks. But when addressing men in this sub (as I was in my original comment)… surely you can agree that men strongly prioritizing looks and hating on any woman over a certain age is more than rare in this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 05:32 PM
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Men rate as more disagreeable in general. Men are also more variable than women, no? So there are many more men on the extremes than women. It's not a flaw in a subset of men. Being unusually disagreeable is a perfectly clear reason why some particular men will fail to find peace. If a man wants “submission” because he’s a combative disagreeable cuss, then it is his own problem that he can’t find any women doormat enough to pacify his constant need to pick fights and assert dominance I get that …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 04:22 PM
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If a man is constantly experiencing everything as a “battleground” it is because he himself is combative and difficult. A mature, cooperative person will not struggle this much to have a peaceful home. If he needs “submission” to have a peaceful home, it’s because he’s a disagreeable bitch who cannot solve problems and automatically views any disagreement as a challenge to his entitled authority. Like… normal people cooperate just fine all the time in lots of contexts and solve conflicts through…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 12:33 PM
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These guys can’t because they are ego-driven, combative, and difficult. They want an obedient woman who just quietly does whatever he says because they are not capable of being cooperative or reasonable. The whole reason they think they keep running into “unreasonable” bitchy women is because they men like this are extremely disagreeable and combative. They automatically turn everything into a fight and then blame the woman for not being docile and groveling. A guy who expects women to be “submi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 12:25 PM
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But if it means “not quarrelsome”, then why not just say “peaceful” or “cooperative”? Why don’t you also call good men “submissive”? Good women don’t want a bitch quarrelsome man in her house either. It’s likely because you do actually mean something quite a lot more than just polite and not quarrelsome. If someone called you “submissive”, you’d feel insulted, no? I also think men tend to use the word “respect” rather differently than women. For women, the word respect usually means just decent …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 11:42 AM
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I agree some men are more thoughtful… but likewise, more than just official Red Pill TM men care about looks first. I agree lots of men care about personality and values. But it’s not the overwhelming majority of men… and in this sub, it’s a minority only. And sorry, but you can’t claim that men everywhere are all universally picking their wives and girlfriends wisely and with incredible consideration for their personality and value with no thought for their looks… … and then immediately turn ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 11:35 AM
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Men have this attitude about women "past their prime" because women in that age group have serious emotional baggage from their poor choices in men. No, loads of men, as they happily and capably state for themselves in their own words, strongly prefer younger women because younger women are prettier and men care about looks first. But even going with your statement here… ok, then what I said still holds perfectly true: wasting time with a scummy scammer who dislikes her and is just using her for…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 06:55 PM
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Yeah but that doesn't mean men would turn against women. It just means they are needed for that protection. Can you clarify what you think women need protection from if it’s not from men? Funny you forget that in bragging about how women need men for protection, you’re actually framing it all as a protection racket. Basically, women need men… because men will hurt them. Do men want violent dangerous men around so they can feel more needed?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 06:27 PM
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Where are dispatchers asking to be paid millions of dollars a year. Duh, you made it up. Typical black pill dishonesty 🙄. But lol, of course you think finance bros deserve high pay in spite of contributing nothing to the world. Haha, finance bros are a bunch of pampered princesses doing nothing of value, but here you are ready to fellate them all so you can shit on the person directing you to put pressure on the wound so you don’t bleed out. Pretty easy to dismiss your opinions as unimportant an…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 06:18 PM
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Something that steals your time and ruins your chances of getting what you actually want is not a prize, it’s just a scam. People who loose all their life savings in a sophisticated scam are getting “options” in the exact same way. They had an “option” they thought was real, but harmed them deeply and irreparably. You do not want this kind of “option” either.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 05:17 PM
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K. Dump on the critical work that is desperately needed in order for the cops to do anything at all. Doesn’t make them any less important for law enforcement to function. Someone’s gotta do the job even if you think you’re too good for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 05:14 PM
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Lawyers and judges and people who file paperwork for law enforcement also count. Don’t forget that dispatch is actually majority female. Call 911, and the person taking the emergency call and directing law enforcement on where to go in an emergency while helping the caller is more likely to be a woman. Women make up nearly 2/3 of dispatchers. Dispatch is a vital link in the law enforcement chain, but somehow they’re often forgotten about. I get the feeling that it’s a hard, stressful job, even t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 02:02 PM
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I don’t want the option of a dude who wants my body but only pretends to like me so he can use my holes, lol. You wildly misunderstand women if you think having a boyfriend who hates you for who you really are is some kind of prize. Seriously, a man like this is a huge waste of her limited time. Aren’t you guys always going on about how women’s prime is only just a few short years and then she’s just a worthless withered old post-wall hag? Then it is a huge detriment to her to be fooled by a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 12:56 PM
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Donnie is the one actually sending American men to go die in war right now today. I wasn’t aware he was a feminist icon? Lol. A pampered rich draft dodger with no skin in the game, a man who would always have bribed his way out and would never ever have to fight in his life war, is the one sending men to die, not “feminists”.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:34 PM
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Your original claim is that feminism fails because of male inherent instincts… but now you dropped that argument to just claim feminism fails because women don’t glorify and praise men for not beating them. It’s really pretty obvious your actual goal is just to complain that feminism isn’t centered around praising men as superior honorable beings if they do stuff women are expected to do by default (be peaceful instead of committing murder). My argument above is that your claim, that men are inh…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:31 PM
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That’s not a response to my comment at all. You didn’t even try.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:10 PM
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Yes I know that’s your argument. I would argue instead that your own beliefs in “natural” male domination and the idea that male-violence drives everything in society is itself an I doctrination. One that is also false— patriarchies are dying everywhere precisely because men obsessively brutalizing their women into silent submission is not natural. It is a behavior (and belief system) that has historically been brainwashed into young men by manipulative old men trying to collect harems for thems…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:04 PM
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So your argument is that men are inherently and biologically the enemies of men, and that men’s core biological drive is to conquer and rape them. Surely that’s an argument in favor of feminism, then? Why should women want to peacefully coexist and cooperate with such violent cruel people who only want to dominate and brutalize them? Sorry, I don’t buy your claim that “evolutionary psychology” proves your belief that men aren’t natural enemy. Men are quite capable of cooperation and persuasion a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 05:22 PM
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Most are probably not impressed but are probably not repulsed either Women who like casual sex, and women who do not have values that reject casual sex are not repulsed. And yes, the women who agree with you that women who have casual sex are worthless lowlife whores, but the men who do that to them are great conquering studs will also probably be repulsed by it and I do think that's weird. Why do you think it’s weird that I don’t want anything to do with exactly the kinds of men most likely to …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 05:14 PM
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but I think it does apply in the case of the perseption of high body count between men and women. This is how men view it when they view sex as combative, as if a man having sex is “winning” and the woman is “losing”. Women generally are not impressed at all by a man being a slut. Like really think about it: why would women think it’s amazing that a man has to work super duper hard to do something that’s trivially easy for her? As a very direct comparison, men are naturally a lot stronger and fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 09:15 PM
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Racking up an high body count as a woman isn't something difficult, doing it as a man is an "achievement". No man end up with an high bodycount by accident. The mere difficulty of an act does not determine whether it’s worthy of praise or shame. It’s really easy to pour a bowl of cereal every morning instead of cooking a perfect french omelette… and you don’t call people who have milk and cereal “breakfast sluts” and shame them for it. Doing something easy is often praised for being more efficie…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 01:39 PM
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It seems far more common for men to throw accusations of being emotional at women than the reverse. I don’t see why you attribute this to women unless it’s simply that you see women as your opponents and rarely read men attacking women with “you sound angry” kinds of responses, rather than addressing the content. Men framing literally any argument a woman makes as being automatically emotional and default illogical is… basic internet 101. Men policing women’s tone for being not conciliatory and …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 12:24 PM
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Narratives are also almost never as universal of overwhelming as OP claims without a massive concerted social effort. Like the Catholic Church kind of effort. And before you cry that’s like feminism and that feminists rule the world… they can’t even keep abortion legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:54 PM
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Where do you live that you think the both sides natativr is a thing? With like, real adults and professionals in the US? Family members, friends, etc. Relationship discussion is a unikely female thing. You think women don’t discuss relationships? Ok, that makes it pretty clear you don’t really communicate much with women. Unfortunately men seem to do it when thrybget traumatized bto the pointnthat they congregate abd form redpill and blackpill based groups which is bad. So you confirm what I sai…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:37 PM
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You read all that and think you wrote a response that has nothing to do with what I said within 2 minutes of my comment posting. I do not buy you actually read anything I wrote or that you considered anything I said before slapping that random comment out on your keyboard. At most you just read the first sentence then rage-stroked out this meaningless “I can find studies and comments” response that had nothing to do with what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:24 PM
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That's funny to assume I only talk to people online. I assume it because your take is so extreme and so one-sided and so black and white, like you’ve never even talked to a normal person at all. I can't tell you how many times hanging out with female friends they're like I hate men. Why are they hanging out with you then? This is also lesbians who say this as well. Lesbians say that their breakups are because of men? Like, they blame men for breakups in relationships with other women? Or are you…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:17 PM
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“Exposes the whole narrative”… ? Maybe get off the internet and slow down with the conspiracy wheeling. Normal people who have real people in real life they know do not have a “narrative” where “men are the sole source of relationship dysfunction”. The narrative of most normal people (i.e. who are not terminally online victims of TikTok brain rot) is “there are two sides to every story”… and on the other side, the people who are actually part of a dysfunctional relationship tend to blame the oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:03 PM
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You can turn it off… just like women do, sure. You do not force yourself to feel attraction based on logic, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 09:46 PM
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You’re in Bible class, and it’s surprising to you that a man be well-meaning but think you’re inferior and need masculine leadership to function. Lol snort. Are you… new to the Bible?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 12:23 PM
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Actually, no, your post is solipsism. You have a problem with women being more selective than men, so you assume that women also have a problem with the same thing. But really, most men don’t actually want women to be as sexually unselective as men. Men call unselective women very cruel names and say they would never ever marry one of those women. Plus, for red pill men… how could they ever feel validated and like they’re a superior specimen if all women were “the town bicycle”.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:06 PM
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I’ve never met a man who used logic to decide which woman to be attracted to. It seems strange to claim it’s just a woman thing to care about emotion when it comes to romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:37 AM
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Yes, and in this discussion, I am asking you to consider the hypothetical as well. You are asking about this extremely uncompromising hypothetical woman… and I am asking about men who are so concerned about her choices. I agree it is a discussion, so then why do you shut entirely down when I ask why you and other men are so deeply concerned with the choices of such an extreme woman. Most women are not even close to being this bonkers, so why so much focus on the kind of woman who… frankly doesn’…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 02:09 AM
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I agree you didn’t use that word. I didn’t say you did. But like… your whole point is that a woman holding out for a 6’5” supermodel billionaire is delusional, no? So again: why does it bother you that a woman you clearly believe is pie-in-the-sky impractical is also someone you’d want to date? Like, if a woman who failed out of high school told you she’s planning to be an astronaut, would you think she was good at managing her life and setting realistic goals? Or if a woman says her plan to pay…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 01:56 AM
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You clearly think this woman is super duper dumb. Do you want to marry the kind of woman who thinks she can only be happy with a 6’5” billionaire supermodel rockstar? If so, why are you interested in a woman you clearly think is terminally stupid? Like you know intelligence is highly heritable… is she the kind of woman you want contributing half her genetics to your kids? And if you doubt her judgement this profoundly, and you think she is this completely silly about important things in her life…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 11:46 PM
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It really depends a lot on what you mean by “financially unstable”. Being with someone I don’t enjoy would be so awful, and being with someone unattractive would make it extremely difficult to connect romantically. So I’d gladly take attractive enough and personable… if “financial insecurity” just means basically any regular American these days. Everyone is financially insecure or just one medical bill away from struggling. I don’t insist of the dude being a 1%er, and I’m able to provide pretty …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 04:38 PM
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it's not settling when men choose you over their other options. men who marry the good girl aren't necessarily bored with them (in fact the guys in my circles never seem to be) It is settling if he spent all his youth and effort chasing after the hot casual sex with women he genuinely desires, then you have to do chores and childcare and bring in half the pay to earn his attention. People don’t really change. If you aren’t like the women he spent his time and effort chasing, and you gotta simp f…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 09:11 PM
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I mean, it’s not really black pill because it’s not defeatist or nihilistic enough. Unlike black pillers, I do not believe that my life and human worth are solely determined by the sexual interest from others.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 12:41 AM
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Like I said before. You're probably not really unattractive. I didn’t say I am hideously ugly. I have generally been clear that I am plain. That is more than enough to be invisible and unwanted by men. I don’t have to be ugly to be not the girl they go for. I think most people can be attractive. That’s nice dear. It's about clothing, hairstyle, and other things you CAN control. Thank you for the condescending unwanted advice, as if I am a total dolt born yesterday who only dresses in burlap sack…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 12:39 AM
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I encourage you to post a picture. I would if I wanted bunch of angry spiteful men can call me ugly. But I honestly don’t want that in my life ever. Thanks!! Thats not to say that someone is attractive to everyone, but would almost guarantee that with a little outside guidance anyone could be far better looking. I already understand that to a lot of men, a woman failing to be attractive to him is a moral shortcoming, and that they’d rather such women not exist. I would rather live my life withou…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 11:59 PM
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Absolute nonsense. I am not hot. And never have been. But as usual, only the hot ones matter. It’s like the rest of us plain ones aren’t even human to you guys. Thanks for the mockery I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 08:46 PM
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They liked other women enough to overcome this anxiety just fine. Why do people insist sooooo hard on making up this fantasy that these men they never met and know nothing about are actually all my secret admirers and I’m really just too dumb to know I’m not beautiful? I have a goddamned mirror, people! I am just naturally mediocre looking! Why can people not even accept the existence of mediocre looking women? Like why do you people work so so hard to erase my existence, telling me “no no no, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 08:44 PM
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You’re the one who brought them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 08:10 PM
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Nothing will decrease the risk of the guy is the type who wants to cheat. Nothing. If he is attractive enough for me to tolerate at all, he is not so ugly that other women won’t like him too. I am not so special that I’m the only one true diamond in the rough who could see him for who he really is, but all other women see him and instantly get the ick. Again, you know there are cheaters who aren’t hot mega-chads. You know that average ordinary men cheat too. Why do you pretend this is some crazy…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 08:07 PM
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I don’t care what you do with your ai sexbot fetish toys
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 07:49 PM
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You tell me. It is not attractive to me at all for a man to tell me he’s only with me because I’m the only fucking loser who didn’t turn him down, and that he’d rather be with a thousand other women before me. That’s why I asked. Women continually reward and encourage that behavior Women do not continually reward desperation and degradation like that. I do not know why you think it is a virtue to tell a woman she’s your last choice. You would hate to date a woman who struck out asking out 1000 m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 07:49 PM
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Yes, people told me this and it’s bullshit. Men didn’t approach me because they didn’t want me, plain and simple. It’s not complicated. I’m not hot, and they want mic hotter women. Like fucking duh. … it’s men who don’t know anything about anything who pop out of the woodwork around here to tell me that “ackshually, all the men around you secretly really wanted you, but were all too shyyyyyyy and you were just too stupid to know they all wanted to ask you out but were scared… men love all women …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 07:44 PM
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And if I was 6'5 maybe I'd join the NBA. Like literally what's the point of creating imaginary scenarios in your head about what an average guy might have done if he were Chad? He's not, so you'll never know. Him being attractive enough that another woman besides me might also find him attractive is a whole lot more likely that you being invited to the NBA, though. You do know that there are far, far more men in the world who cheat than there are NBA players. Men cheating is much more common tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 03:16 PM
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Fun. So in your opinion, a woman who wants a man to actually like her and not cheat… is either a sex toy or an emotional leech. Sounds like you’ve already found your ai chat bot: Siri and Alexa don’t want any of that from you, so they’re golden. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:12 PM
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No, her post is questioning the narrative of dudes who think “a man is only as loyal as his options”. How is anything about her personal life relevant to the discussion of the red pillers who argue men are only ever loyal if literally every other woman on earth rejects him?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:05 PM
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going on social media and bemoaning how ALL men are trash and want want sex only. And here you are yourself, going on social media and bemoaning how all women are trash and only want Chad and are all bitches. Because women refuse to acknowledge they only go for attractive men and then lash out at all men Sounds like you deserve the kind of woman you’re complaining about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 01:17 PM
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The were classmates and we were friends to do the homework. I wasn’t their best bro, and I know it. The asked out other women, bro. They weren’t incapable of speaking to women, dude. You just made that up! But I guess it’s cool you can makeup a fantasy in your head, based on fucking nothing but your own feelings, and knowing absolutely none of these people, all so you can maintain your precious “all women have tons of men who want them” fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 01:10 PM
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That is literally “women suck”, dude. You just think women are all fucking stupid… yet for som baffling reason you want these people you view as absolute morons to mother your children. The unbelievable lack of respect you all have for the people you claim to love, lol. It’s just nothing but degradation from you all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 01:07 PM
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I wasn’t negative. I was not slutty or a flirtatious clinger, true, yeah. I didn’t want to lead men on when I wasn’t sure. I was a fucking virgin, but of course you consider sexual shyness an act of evil from a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 12:45 PM
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It is factual. I am not exciting, bubbly, cute adorable, sexually alluring, flirtatious, etc. It is also based on male reactions to me. The will think I’m interesting to talk to, but not appealing romantically at all. I am uninteresting to them: a person who does not spark their romantic interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 01:55 AM
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I was taught by conservative parents that this is not how a lady behaves. And that she should be patient and kind and men will approach. Total fucking bullshit, but listened dutifully and it took a long fucking time to realize that no, actually nobody would ever show genuine interest like that. But of course naturally, when men learn the wrong lessons you will have infinite sympathy… but because I’m a woman you’ll unload endless stupid insults at me. And besides that… what is the point of asking…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 01:01 AM
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Yep. You predicted exactly right! They are all out here lecturing me on how I must have been loved and adored by these men (who totally ignored me for a relationship), and it’s really all just my fault because they assume I dated Chad. And when some (no not most) of the nerdy guys around me bullied me and were cruel, well I’m pretty sure these same red pill guys will tell me I should have just offered them sex in the library so they would be nicer to me. 🙄 They don’t read and just make shit assu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 09:40 PM
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They were literally my friends and none of them wanted me that way. What are you talking about. I saw them. And I saw the romantic disinterest too. If your only response is just more lies to shove down my throat, don’t bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 09:36 PM
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I’m not a “neet”, dude, and I did respond. I went to a whole lot of school and have a career. Yeah, I’m one of those gross yucky women with jobs you all hate. I eventually married one of those nice regular nerdy guys. But I’m sure you’ll find some way to tell me I’m a worthless groveling worm in the dirt and he’s actually an 8 ft tall basketball star and I don’t deserve him. It appears you are incapable of good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 09:35 PM
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Yes. Those exact men didn’t want me! Thats what I am saying. You are not listening or paying attention at all! You just want to blame me and call me stuck up with this cruel fantasy you have that I was adored by all these guys. I wasn’t. But thanks for making sure to find some path for you to blame me and paint me as a hypocritical bitch villain. I can always count on the men here to do that. Many of them were perfectly friendly and decent, and some were my friends. They did not want me. And bef…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 09:32 PM
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Since you are preening about morality…. You much surely be saying that, as someone so morally superior, you have a never ever in your whole life consumed any nudes, or porn. You must have so much respect for sexuality and marriage that you have never even lusted after a woman’s body when she was trying completely earnestly to be modest! Only someone who is such a total paragon of sexual virtue and modesty would spend so heartily condemn women of “the west”. I have yet to meet a man like that, pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 07:33 PM
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I was just about to reply to that exact point! Like… I get that he probably means “for a long while. But 8???? That math ain’t mathin’ Normal 8 year old boys think girls are yucky and wanna catch Pokemon or throw jackknives at each others’ feet whatever it is little boys do these days. (True story— the knife gamewas called mumblypeg! Kids in the 50s played it!) Normal 8 year old boys should be running around outside playing tag and kickball, not lifting weights in the gym and searching for a gir…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 05:08 PM
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Why does the virginity make a difference? If a virgin isn’t giving you sex fast enough for your desires, you don’t like her. The virginity doesn’t change the fact that your dick is dry. Her virginity has no intrinsic value. It’s just a quick consumable that’ll be gone after one use.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:41 PM
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100% agreement with what you say here. I will second it with my own experience. I also was chaste and wanted to only have sex in a serious relationship… and found myself being completely ignored my men. Yeah, men say they want a nice, chaste girl, but most seem not to. I spent my entire youth single and celibate. And I don’t regret much about that. Sure, I sometimes wish someone had wanted me younger, but I’m deeply glad I never went out to have sex I don’t want that clashes with my own values. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 02:35 PM
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when i was your age, a lot of guys did in fact go for the hoes but it wasn't to settle down with them or even have a relationship in most cases. young men want to get laid, they don't think about marriage and life partners, they often want fun without too much effort - generally speaking, at least if they have options As a former young chaste woman, I promise, I definitely didn’t want to be the boring backup Becky bed eventually settle for in marriage after he had all sorts of real fun with the …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 02:22 PM
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>This doesn't seem like a women punching above their weight. Unfortunately, it is one of the core red pill brief that no matter what the circumstances, no matter how hot a woman is, she is always inherently punching above her weight because “women are hypergamous”. There is absolutely no trait, no level of hotness, that will ever convince them that the woman is on the level of any guy she dates or has sex with. The very fact that she chose him is proof, to them, that she is indeed inferior to hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 02:17 AM
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Oh, fuck, of course everything could only be about women It’s a huge international story in the recent news from France. When you reference a big news story about marital relations gone wrong in France… people are gonna assume you mean the big headline news, not a long-term footnote about at-fault divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:42 PM
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Eh, there’s some around. A minority (because this sub is the asylum), but there are some around. Hell, I’ve even seen a few guys flaired as red pill push back on some of the total insanity from the total wacko dudes here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:11 PM
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A recent rape case in France? You mean the case where the husband drugged his wife repeatedly and helped more than seventy of his buddies rape her repeatedly while taking photos of the brutality for his own later enjoyment? And just to get this straight… you’re sympathizing… with the husband here??? That’s your example?? Insanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:45 PM
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Well, total surprise. Being a woman doesn’t prevent you answering the question I asked, now does it? Again: you first. I wanna see where feminists supposedly promised men they’d get laid if they don’t hold open doors.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 06:02 PM
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I am far more familiar with the bell curve than you, lol. A “bell curve”, or more usually called a Gaussian distribution, is merely a specific exponential mathematical distribution. The men on the outer fringes of this distribution are absolutely not outliers at all— they are an expected part of the distribution. Male variance on some metrics (height and intelligence) is larger, yes. That means that there distribution for men is wider. A wider distribution in particular metrics does not inherent…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 05:59 PM
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Once you really analyze everything, even philosophers paint women as either children or shallow/vain. Yes, ego-centric biased men pay themselves on the back and degrade women for fun. Also water is wet. A bunch of puffed up idiots proudly declaring themselves superior in some kind of “men are wonderful” navel gazing is proof only that a lot of philosophers are just dummies. Sorry, a lot of philosophers are just useless preachers full of hot air. I’m a scientist— I’m not interested in empty blovi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 04:29 PM
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Her standards are inflated by the American average and she doesn't know how good she has it. No, her standards match what is around her. If she lived in a place where the male average were 5’7”, she’d also likely be about 4 inches shorter, and would think a 5’7” man seemed taller. >The problem is women bully men for concepts like "mail order bride" and "passport bro" for chasing women You are the one sitting here bullying western women. Why should I want to beg for your love while you degrade me…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 04:16 PM
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men are lead by pride (ego), women are lead by feelings(entitlement). Men even commit what are known as “honor killings” on parts of the world. You may call this “honor”, but it’s outright evil to commit murder, not honorable. And of course nice dig at calling out women as “led by feelings” when men are overwhelmingly the ones being overwhelmed by feelings and killing. Literally murdering someone because you’re mad your ego got bruised is killing based on dumb feelings. These men are not killing…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:32 PM
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It truly comes down to the dynamic that women are selective on the apps The apps are 80%+ male. Men are being very selective in the first place by targeting only the relatively small numbers of women on the apps. And the even smaller fraction women on the apps who are active regularly and are there for casual sex… yes so have their pick of men. There are not enough hours in the day for those women to satisfy all takers, even if they wanted that ridiculous volume of casual sex: of course they don…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:19 PM
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It truly comes down to the dynamic that women are selective on the apps The apps are 80%+ male. Men are being very selective in the first place by targeting only the relatively small numbers of women on the apps. And the even smaller fraction women on the apps who are active regularly and are there for casual sex… yes so have their pick of men. There are not enough hours in the day for those women to satisfy all takers, even if they wanted that ridiculous volume of casual sex: of course they don…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:15 PM
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It might be the global average height for men? It’s below average in taller countries, but not everywhere. But not a big deal. His is really just another version of the standard “you uppity western women don’t know how good you have it: should fuck every man you see in gratitude that you don’t live in the 3rd world”. These guys love to shit on women in the west and tell us we’re no good and don’t deserve love of decent treatment. Yawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:37 PM
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I'm just using this as an example to show the men that women consider unattractive are more attractive than almost half of men in the world based off that. If I’m not attracted to a man, it doesn’t matter at all if you think I should be attracted to him because you personally think he’s more attractive than half the men on earth. If I’m not attracted to him, I’m not attracted to him. You did not logically decide who you’d be attracted to, yet here you are lecturing women that they should ignore …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:12 PM
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For a slut, who wants casual sex, casual sex with a man who is attracted to her is a reward. For a woman who wants sex without commitment, non-committing dick is a good thing. I know it’s super confusing, but we are not all the same. For me, casual sex is not desirable… and the commitment of a man who used to do casual sex is even worse. Yuck. We are not compatible, ever. be a slut and you get pumped and dumped, be chaste and you get marriage and family Loads of sluts, male and female, get marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:48 PM
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You first. Show me where you think feminists promised you you’d get hot sex with hot women as a reward for not opening a door. And honestly, my husband not doing that performative chivalry shit was actually a real selling point for him when we were dating. It was a sign he viewed me as a real capable equal, not some helpless cutesy pet like a lot of trad men want their girlfriends to be. You can miss me with your whining about chivalry. It’s ridiculous men like you think opening or not opening a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:43 PM
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Its honor, women lack honor - which is why their choice of weaponry is things like poison This is a common saying, but it’s factually wrong. Recent studies (1980s-2010s) show that roughly 60% of poisoners are male. You can also look to the history to know that the idea men don’t use poison to kill is just comically wrong. in World War I, men in the militaries of both sides poisoned 91,000 other men with phosgene, chlorine, and mustard gases. Surely you have heard of this? Is this the “honor” you…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:23 PM
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Why does a man not being abusive mean he’s out of my league? Why do you think I deserve to be abused and raped, specifically? And why do you think western men are the only men on earth who don’t beat women to death? Racist much? And why do you assume the entirety of woman’s value is what she looks like right now? Nobody on earth picks their partner based on some unmeasurable abstract percentiles of “which man is the best all around”. Nobody. You don’t either. You want a turbo hot girlfriend who …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:54 AM
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The women you described are all conventionally attractive, a healthy weight, and most of all, young. You also only give a shit about a relatively small minority of women. Here is the difference: There is no difference. You pursue only women you are attracted to, but you expect women to have to swallow their own vomit to sexually service men they are not attracted to. You have never once ever tried and succeeded to force yourself to be attracted to someone you’re not. Yet you say women should do …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:09 AM
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Requiring women to fuck men they don’t like is already enforcing traditional gender roles. Whatever agenda you’re pushing here and won’t be clear about, I’m not interested in it. You’re being deliberately coy, and I can’t be bothered. I still want equal rights and don’t want to be forced to fuck men I’m not attracted to. Call me a hypocrite all you want— I’m still not gonna be a free use whore or give up my rights just because you don’t like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:05 AM
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I already answered it when I said I said I was a low-n, chaste woman. Why are you being so sneering and demanding when I already answered you? Or do you not know what “low-n” and “chaste” mean? Again, I don’t want anything to do with slutty men. I don’t want a pump and dump, and I don’t want their worthless, trash commitment. However, unfortunately, a whole lot of men clearly value the women they pump and dump far far more than they value the boring women they settle for in the end. They despise…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:03 AM
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Then start 5 steps back, and it’s still beneficial. Why would any woman want a second date with someone with poor social skills? Why would she want to fuck him? If you have poor social skills… the very best way to improve them is to force yourself to meet people and practice being more sociable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 10:13 PM
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“Because I said so” is not a “why” answer. It’s just your opinion: you are saying women (and just women) have to fuck ugly men if they oppose gender norms. And no, sorry. Being required to fuck ugly men is the real traditional gender norm. Also I would love it if you could not assume anything about me. I am responding to your comment. You asserted that women not wanting to fuck ugly men is somehow going against gender norms… and I totally disagree. It is the absolute foundational gender norm of …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:14 PM
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My first question was “why”, which you didn’t answer. Why is it you expect women who reject gender norms to ignore attraction and obediently provide sexual services for unattractive men? Traditional gender norms are that women’s sexual attraction does not matter and she must sexually submit to someone she’s not attracted to for the good of society. You are contradicting yourself by saying women who reject gender norms are “enforcing” them. The women are absolutely rejecting the gender norms you …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:42 PM
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So again, I’ll ask— where in all of feminism were you promised that women would be free use whores for men they are not attracted to? Where do you pay for your equal liberated rights by offering yourself up sexually to people you don’t desire? Why is it ironic to you that women don’t do something you would never in your life do? Never in your life have you ever chosen someone unattractive to you— why is it so lol that women want the freedom to not be raped by men they don’t want?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:35 PM
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I was present at birth and I didn't feel like I am benefiting from anything. I don’t care if you don’t give a shit about being there. It’s very meaningful for some fathers who care about their children. They are men and benefitted. You asked how it benefits men. Not you personally. I have no idea how you personally are benefitted because I don’t know your life. But from your responses so far, you’d say anything other than being provided a harem of teenaged sex slaves would be “not a benefit” to …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 05:50 PM
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What specifically is the lie? Why do you think it’s a “lie” that I want equal legal rights and I don’t want to be a free-use whore? Where in all of feminism do you think you were promised free access to any pussy you wanted? And don’t lie, it’s that simple to answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 05:42 PM
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Do you think being pumped and dumped is a reward for women? Do you think being married is a reward for men? Men like you clearly view pumping and dumping as the ultimate most wonderful thing under the sun. Red pill men very clearly genuinely desire the women you pump and dump, and resent the women you settle for in marriage. The woman you pump and dump gets real genuine instant desire; the woman you settle for gets chores and pure seething resentment, if she marries a dude who thinks about marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 05:39 PM
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Why is it that you believe equality for women requires them to sexually service whoever you tell them to? Do you pay for your rights by providing sexual services to people you find unattractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:45 PM
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Two quick examples: The traditional norm of fathers being excluded from being present at the birth of their own children benefits men who want to be caring fathers. The norm of expecting women to be care takers being deconstructed benefitted men who are caretakers (famously, Ruth Bader Ginsburg fought for the right for men when she represented a single man who was denied caretaker tax benefits based on his sex).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:42 PM
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If you want to find strawmen, go do it somewhere in the field, not here. You are making this up and they absolutely won't use "anything" Not a strawman. Just watch what men do, not what they say when they are virtue signaling. You yourself admit you use class markers and cultural signals to guess a woman’s n-count, as if merely being born with poor parents is what determines a woman’s sexual history. This discussion is about actual sluts. No, it’s about women you assumed to be slurs based on the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 12:37 PM
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Plenty of lazy dudes who just pump and leave to not bring the woman to orgasm. Him being hot doesn’t facilitate anything if he pumps twice and leaves. A more attractive partner is more likely to have sex. I see absolutely no evidence or proof that a man being more hot or less hot makes any difference if he passes her looks threshold in the first place. You claim it’s not Eve debatable, but you haven’t presented anything except your own opinions based on how you feel about sex. I assert this shit…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:15 AM
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Your question is framed in total disbelief that women don’t experience sexuality the exact same way you do. If you want my specific answer, I have no comparison. I am married to my one sexual partner and I find him very hot… but I also didn’t orgasm much at first. Years later, and it’s every time. Again, for men, orgasm is just “is there a wet hole somewhere and is it vaguely female shaped”. For women, comfort and emotional connection and “spark” are important alongside looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:53 AM
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Quote where I said “looks don’t matter”. I did not “essentially” say any such thing, I didn’t say looks don’t matter. A guy she doesn’t find attractive guy isn’t going to get her to orgasm… he’s not going to get her in bed in the first place. But a guy attractive enough to get sex won’t get her to orgasm either if he sucks in bed. Women aren’t men. Looks may be all that matters to you when you pump twice and expect her to be ecstatic, but that’s not enough for women. Stop projecting male sexuali…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:47 AM
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Who commits the most crime? I did not argue anything about what men actually are like, only that red pill only ever says good things about men and masculinity, and has nothing but contempt for women and femininity. so even if women have the superior set of traits to men overall, it doesn't benefit us at all to glorify them. Red pill is not written for women—it does not benefit men to shit on women’s traits overall either, but red pillers do it constantly. There is no “if” in red pill cannon. Red…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:43 AM
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I’m not talking about how men actually are or are not naturally. I am presenting the generalized red pill view: that men are mostly only bad because women reward it. They blame women any time a man does something bad, and praise men anytime a man does something good.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:36 AM
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Yeah, exactly. People are more complicated than “pure evil” or “pure good”. And yeah, sure he’s about as evil as you can be… but he also wasn’t even remotely alone in being as evil as he was. Even for the absolute worst among us, you can find something not horrible… how stupid would it be for us to judge someone as “good” or “evil” on the assumption that everything they do is either always good or always bad? A person who seems “good” based on a few actions could be a truly horrible person most …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 08:20 PM
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Oh, well, lol, whoops. I did the quick google to confirm, but ai does actually suck. Thanks for the correction. And again, to be extra clear I’m not defending him— he was definitely not a “good person”, and did many many truly horrible things. But he was still human, not than an avatar of Satan. It’s almost impossible for someone to truly do only purely evil their entire life without exception. Oh yeah which reminds me of one truly good thing he did: he killed Hitler.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 07:40 PM
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Always about looks and first time encounters with you red pill dudes. It’s like you expect a woman to orgasm every time based on looks alone, because that’s how sex works for you. You are projecting male sexuality on women, where if a woman is at least a little attractive (read: looks plausibly female), you expect to orgasm. For women, first time encounters are far less likely to give an orgasm, and sex in a long term relationship is far more likely to result in orgasm. Not because of just looks…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 06:20 PM
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It’s more than “don’t like cigarettes”. He actually started one of the first anti-smoking campaigns. I would consider it “good” to improve the public health, but perhaps you disagree and think it is evil to improve public health and reduce cancer rates. Ok. So you think causing cancer is “good”. Weird, but good to know I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 06:12 PM
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Hitler was a real human being, not the embodiment of pure evil. It is quite foolish for you to imagine he had zero good qualities and was purely evil in every way. The actual evil he did may far outweigh the good, but he did still have some positive qualities. He led one of the first anti-smoking campaigns and discouraged the use of cigarettes in the military, promoting public health— is opposing something that causes cancer and illness evil because Hitler did it? He also loved dogs. Is loving d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 05:36 PM
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I was doing something wrong: I wasn’t flirty and bubbly, and I wasn’t trying to appear plausibly sexually available. Only thing I really did “wrong” was have acne that was hard to cure, and short hair. Apparently that’s more than enough to be considered worthless to a lot of men. 🤷‍♀️ I dressed nice and kept my legs together and was friendly and I wasn’t fat. Men care way the fuck more about “sexy” than they do about “nice”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 04:32 PM
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Red pill does not discuss women’s pain tolerance… and I’m quite sure if they cared they wouldn’t say it is higher. Studies do not even suggest it’s higher. And “their IQ is more stable overall” is actually more of red pill’s obsession with bragging about male genius and calling women average and boring. And lol, I have never seen red pill’s man claim women are “more interesting” in any way whatsoever. Sorry, red pill teachings can be entirely summed up by 1 and 2 above. And 2 really isn’t a list…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:23 PM
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I disagree with red pill that all women are thug-chasing, shallow inferior hypergamous whores who will only ever fuck a superior man and need a man to lead them. I agree with them that women are pickier than men and do actually prefer physically attractive men with charisma and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 02:03 AM
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So yeah, I’ll take that as your confirmation that red pill does not believe women have any good qualities beyond 1 and 2 I already described above. The “praises” passport bros are singing is that they think women abroad are not fat (1) and more “submissive” (2). Hardly the hog praise you claim it is, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:26 AM
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Unironically, this is a very common concern I've seen men bring up online. Yes, I am aware that a whole lot of men do not want marriage precisely because they project their feelings that casual sex is extremely wonderful, and committed relationships are the backup plan for when you can’t get the casual sex you really truly desire. They assume that’s how women feel because it is how they feel themselves. Men want sex way faster on average than women do, and want more sexual partners on average th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 11:58 PM
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Do red pill positive beliefs about women exist? Like, so far as I can tell, the only red-pill endorsed positives about women are: Women have bodies that straight men are attracted to and want to fuck. Some women are feminine, and a lot of men like women who are feminine. The red pill definition of feminine seems to be some fuzzy vague combination of the following: weak, meek, docile, silent, obedient, “submissive” (their usual preferred word for obedient, weak, and docile), people-pleasing, apol…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 08:56 PM
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I don’t see that they make the underlying assumption that most men are like that. To the contrary, they generally seem to argue that most men are not like that, and need to be trained to be. The actual red pill assumption is that women are wicked stupid bitches who only want bad men, and unfortunately, the only way to get laid is to sacrifice your innate moral manliness and stoop to the level of appealing to rotten, stupid, evil women. The generally present it as an unfortunate reality forced up…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 08:34 PM
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The rates of divorce have come way way down for every decade that has passed I agree. And yet a ton of young men continue to perpetuate the idea that marriage is a rotten, unfair, cruel form of torture for men. They call marriage a “punishment”, like the other guy in this tread did. Men like this aren’t offering joyful, loving commitment if they get married. They’re taking their last choice and hating it. No wife could ever be wonderful enough to overcome that kind of in-baked resentment that sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 08:24 PM
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The way they talk and the way they treat her. Also seriously, as a redpill man, you can miss me with the “ significant amount of thoughts you're attributing to insides of men's heads where you've never been”. Like seriously, lol, that’s about half of what red pill does— preach women’s inner thoughts that they made up inside their heads. Thinking they know women’s inner thoughts is a huge part of why these dudes think casual sex is superior and marriage is so horrible— they spend endless amounts …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 06:34 PM
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I have no idea if it is a majority of men, but it certainly is a lot of men who truly and deeply despise marriage. The men who glorify casual sex and think marriage a “punishment” for men very clearly hate their wives… or if not married yet, they will hate whatever woman they settle for. The commitment of a man who thinks marriage is a punishment would be a life-long punishment for whatever woman accepts his proposal. It is not possible to respect your wife if your (generic you) real desire is f…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 04:35 PM
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Bad boomer generalisation. I am not a “boomer”. This is how lots of young men view marriage— as a miserable fucking slog they have to put up with as a last resort to get sex. They only put up with this boring last-choice woman if she offers chores… and also pays half the bill on top of it too. You’re right, I forgot the extra demand that she do the chores AND have a paycheck, and that she should act grateful for the opportunity too. Men who worship casual sex as supreme have very burdensome expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 03:31 PM
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No, they go around and give the hot sexy girls all their attention and lust and adoration and genuine desire. The “reward” those guys save for boring family minded “good girls” is that she has to do all the laundry and cooking for him for him to tolerate her presence. A whole lot of young men today think casual sex is the ultimate most wondeful thing and think marriage is a punishment — they view marriage as the boring miserable shit you have to put up with to get legitimate children. And little…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 03:07 PM
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I know, I was that good woman ignored in her late teens and early twenties... Alas, men thought I was a wet blanket and mid. Yep. Exactly my experience. I was a “good girl” who was serous and kept her legs together and dressed “nice” instead of sexy. Most men do not want a “good girl”, they just say they do to virtue signal. It’s honestly fine they don’t want that (I wouldn’t want someone who resents me anyways, and I don’t expect people to force themselves to be attracted to someone they’re not…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 02:56 PM
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They assume any woman did “better” for another man. Regardless of her actual history, loads of guys today assume every woman is a slut who fucked someone hotter faster. But thanks for confirming it’s really all about the competition, not about consistent values.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 10:54 PM
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Don’t worry. If we decide to never have casual sex, they hate us too. They are hypocrites at heart: they desperately want instant turbo slutty sex from lots of women all while shitting on the very same women they pursue most desperately for having sex. Non-casual sex women think these hypocrite slut dudes who claim to want sexually reserved women (but don’t really!) to be gross too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 12:47 PM
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I really feel like you are brainwashing me to dominate women. No, I’m calling you out on the failures of your wishful fantasy of believing the 10th century was some kind of genuine egalitarian loving utopia between men and women. Like dude, you don’t know the first thing about how women were treated then, and you don’t have a clue how women themselves thought of their own situation then. You have read nothing about those women— you merely assume they were happy because you assume men were all ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 02:41 PM
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I'm talking about time period maybe 10 century or before. Even if you weren’t in an active war, it was still a lot more violent! Robberies by highwaymen were the expected norm for travelers and pilgrims. And don’t forget— women had minimal rights and were regularly burned at the stake if they didn’t conform to societal feminine expectations. What you don’t realize is that your desire for female compliance and submission is a desire for a more violent brutal world. You don’t care about women and …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 12:42 PM
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The most common things I hear in the west is revealing clothes, tats, piercings + certain behaviors. It’s not just revealing clothes. Men in the west, like yourself, will use anything to call a woman you don’t like a “slut” or a “whore”. Hair, going to college, being outspoken, class identifiers, physical features, rejecting sex, anything. Men in the west call women “sluts” so they can feel morally good about disrespecting her. When literally any possible visible feature or behavior is used to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 09:16 PM
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I do not buy your claim that joyfully accepting someone’s dislike of your gender is equivalent to compassion. It’s perfectly natural and compassionate to express dissatisfaction when someone complains that you, and everyone like you, is ruining their life. But your answer also feels vague and like you’re just virtue signaling. What would that look like, in more concrete terms? Like if a woman came up to you telling you that men suck because they don’t give her what she wants, how do you compassi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 07:56 PM
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Is there a “you-approved” way for women to complain at you about you? Why do you want to complain about women to women, and then expect them to give you a gold star and a pat on the head for insulting them? Like… do you get how weird it is that you want to complain to women that women suck, and also want them to tell you how great it is you don’t like them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 06:57 PM
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It definitely was far peaceful before the industrial revolution began. Your actual objection seems to be a hatred of modern technology… yet you blame women for “not getting along”. Why? And really, you think the world world before 1769 is your ideal? The seven years war (known as the french and Indian war in the US) was a massive global war fought between European superpowers. People were brutally kidnapped and enslaved from Africa in that era, and women had zero rights. You could only think tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 05:40 PM
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Peaceful? Bro we are the brink of a world war. Yes, this is legit as peaceful as it fucking gets for humans. When specifically do you think was more peaceful? We have weapons now, enough to finish all of our LIVING BEINGS on earth. And the Cold War was actually the world on the brink of global thermonuclear annihilation. Today is actually less insane than 50 years ago. Our ancestors did far better than us. Take care of nature and ourselves. Our ancestors are literally how we got to where we are.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 04:26 PM
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Nowadays is the most peaceful the world has ever been. You wanna look honestly at 1918 or or 1930 or 1943 or 1864 or 1778 and tell me everyone was “getting along”? We didn’t get along for eons. Humans have been violent and horrible to each other for millennia. Violence accounted for a substantial proportion of deaths among hunter gatherers tribes. You don’t know how good you’ve got it now to be complaining that… a woman talking… is such a horrible torture to you. Wising for those days when “we a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 02:27 PM
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Do you think Men with prostate cancer should be punished for it too? Women don’t get prostate cancer, so your logic says it shouldn’t be protected. Suck it up buttercup— men’s male-specific medical needs don’t count according the OP! She didn’t have “painful periods”, she had endometriosis. It can be debilitating pain— I have a family friend who had it and would vomit and pass out from the pain. It was worse than giving birth for her, and she had a 4th degree tear (that’s where your vagina rips …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 12:24 AM
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I can’t even imagine being attracted to someone who smells so horrible. Smell is an important part of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 12:42 PM
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so this would mean that 80% of women are either post-wall, too fat, single mothers, sluts, etc? … or mean or a bitch, yes. You guys love claim that’s all so easy, yet also claim that “modern” women are all bitches and very few women can properly give you “peace”. So yeah, you guys do actually have a lot more standards than you think you do. A whole lot of the guys demanding these qualities in a woman also don’t have those qualities in themselves, either. I've personally never seen it argued that…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:18 PM
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No, I don’t think she meant that, and that’s not what I was arguing either. She and I both meant that young thin healthy women who also meet all your other requirements (single, “nice”, childless, etc) are actually a fairly modest minority of women. You just don’t consider most women to be “women” or something if you think they’re the majority. I was saying that those few requirements alone (slender and young) already bring you to well under 50% of the female population. Even looking at just age…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 05:04 PM
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Like, healthy age 18-30 and not overweight is already less than half of women in the US. Even just those restrictions alone eliminates a lot of women… even if you ignore all the rest (including being single). You may not notice any of the women you are not attracted to, but women who are slender, healthy, and young (the ones every man wants) are not the majority. And before you go after modern women… remember how horrible health was before modern medical care. Men weren’t clamoring over women wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:42 PM
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It’s not the same logic. You don’t have to fuck “most” women to find one who loves you. If you need “most” women want to fuck you to feel happy, you don’t actually want marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:50 AM
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No, because people with handicapped sparking spots cannot use their status to force provision for 18 years. The absolutely can use their status to “gain provision” from government resources. And actually a handicapped person can gain full provision from a spouse in a divorce— this is one of those rare exceptions to the trend in reducing the incidence in alimony. Alimony, even for life is sometimes granted when one spouse is handicapped and requires provision. But likewise, pregnant women do not …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:45 AM
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🙄 oh good grief.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:30 AM
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There is no “should” or “should not”. I know that you will never give a shit about any women, no matter whether she spreads her legs or not. It is simply a statement of fact: pregnancy is not, and cannot ever be, equal. There is no “should” that can make that change. No amount of women spreading their legs like whores for you will make pregnancy “equal”. So what is your point? That you don’t like facts?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:29 AM
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Before that, it was horse girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:13 AM
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Men who want “more” are never gonna be satisfied with one boring old wifey.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 12:40 AM
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Pregnancy is not, and cannot ever be equal. It’s just nonsensical to claim pregnancy is “equal” now. It’s like complaining that people with handicaps have handicapped parking spots and wishing they had to park a mile away too. Wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 12:30 AM
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If there's a fire and you see someone who looks like a fireman, you will run to them for help. There is no whoosh here, you keep making the analogy that you should assume people wearing certain clothing have a specific profession. Seeing who you described, I wouldn't assume anything at all. She would be assumed to be a whore in some parts of the world for wearing those clothes. I’m sure you make some kinds of assumptions. 🤷‍♀️ Same applies to when someone looks like a slut. What does a “slut” lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 01:28 PM
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Stats I found are that around 1/3 ideas Asian men can grow facial hair (usually a mustache and/or a goatee), and quite a lot fewer can grow a full-faced bushy beard. This is a specific gene thing, not evidence that they are “children” or that they are hormone deficient. I agree that people have different hair preferences— it is often cultural or fashion oriented. Someone preferring more or less hair is not evidence of deviancy on its own. But it’s likewise very suspicious when a dude argues abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 09:51 PM
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Actually, fun fact, a lot of fully adult east Asian and Native American men also don’t grow beards. They’re not clean shaven, they’re just naturally beardless. Are you calling basically most Asian men children?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 07:24 PM
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Funfact: Greec Woman shaved down there, greec men wehr eproud of there ass hair Well, Ancient Greeks were also pretty famous for being very very into pederastry. So… if ancient greek sexual preferences what you’re advocating, you should probably report yourself to the FBI.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 07:22 PM
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Hairiness and actually being prepubescent are what are negatively correlated. Hairiness is considered neotenous specifically because it is a pre-pubescent trait in humans… and it’s one of the earliest pubescent traits to begin development. In other words, total lack of body hair in our evolutionary past was a strong signal that a girl was very young and NOT fertile at all. I have also not seen evidence that, for girls/women of the same age, that hairiness is anti-correlated with other more class…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 07:19 PM
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Why should any young beautiful woman want to marry a guy who’s just going to call her an ugly jealous old bitch when he wants to chase after their daughter’s friends? Like seriously, you guys make yourselves insanely unappealing to young women. Young women are not stupid. They know they will be old some day too— and you’re making it infinitely clear that you will treat them like absolute shit as they get older too. You are not making the morally upright defense of men obsessed with youth that yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 05:22 PM
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Some things red pillers preach are true, and some are delusional nonsense. Some are purely unfalsifiable— the marking of flimflam. How many is "loads"? Give me a ballpark figure Give me a ballpark figure of red pillers in general. I contend that the total number of red pillers periodically is fairly incnsequentiall. Most me don’t know, or don’t care, about your little movement. and then pretend I bothered to explain how that's a miniscule amount Why should I fuss with someone who just thinks onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 12:31 PM
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Teaching other people has the selfish benefit of learning the material better for themselves. You propose that they’re teaching it so they can entrench their own biases more deeply? Yeah that’s plausible I guess. Teaching other people has the selfish benefit of learning the material better for themselves. The same way bouncing ideas off someone makes it clearer and more robust. How am I getting “fooled” that loads of RP dudes want to proselytize their beliefs? There are a lot of them doing this.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 12:28 AM
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Why do you want these horrible women you clearly view as psychos? And why do you lump all of us in together? Maybe those criminal-fucking women you’re so hot for think like you: that all men are criminals anyways. You certainly don’t seem to have any interest in the good, well-behaved women who avoid criminals and thugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 05:37 PM
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To put my answer in red pill terms… Those same men would believe her if she were hotter. Them automatically assuming any woman they date is a two-faced slut is because they’re not actually all that attracted to her. It doesn’t matter if she’s a virgin— he’ll assume she’s got a high n-count past of fucking chads in the club bathroom if he’s not attracted to her. It’s a way of explaining his lack of attraction to her in moralistic terms, blaming her for it, rather than just accepting that he’s pic…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 05:21 PM
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If they didn’t care about “changing the world”, they wouldn’t be out proselytizing their RP religion. Their actions show they are actually seeking converts. If it were just about getting laid, and they truly believed RP is the secret to getting more sex, then they wouldn’t be telling other men their secrets. They would be avoiding teaching other men things they believe increases the competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:24 PM
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Yeah, but most men won’t be able to effectively curate gifs of themselves moving attractively. Like, how would you even describe to a guy how to move so that he looks hot? Honestly, I can only barely describe some kinda of movement qualities I find unnatural and fake looking, like the stilted “princess hand wave with overly stuffy posture” or the “stiff posed jewelry hand model rocking her hand back and forth to show off the sparkle of a ring”. Lol, ok actually now I’m kinda curious what kinds o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 06:29 PM
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You remember right? Karl Marx, that guy who famously never ever suggested any economic or political systems in any way. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:43 PM
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Why do you think a need for “romance” would be solved by “getting a blowjob a day with zero additional conversation”? Those things are not the same at all. What do you think romance is?? Like seriously, ugh, just hire a prostitute or buy a fleshlight if you want a hole to fuck and ignore. A silent blowjob from a woman you never talk to is not “romance”, and never was. Don’t call it “romance” when you hate everything about the person you’re fucking except their holes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:40 PM
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Words like “robbery”, “burglary”, “theft” and non-sexual “assault” all share the same lack of clarity. If someone says “I was robbed”, it could be that someone stole a 2 for one subway coupon, or their car. Assault against a police officer can mean spitting on their shoes or trying to smash his face in. In other words, you are making up silly reasons to hate on women.. And also… men and boys are also victims of sexual assault. Is that still women being too “vague” to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:32 PM
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An official uniform for a profession tells you what their job is and that they are on duty now. It does not tell you their sexual history or their personality. So by analogy, what specific profession do you assume a woman has if she has big boobs and she is wearing long pants and a high v-neck cotton shirt that shows only a little cleavage?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 03:47 PM
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Do you think women lives nowadays are better in every way or some things about the past was better and more stress free? Stress free??? Are you nuts? I cannot imagine being like “ugh, getting equal pay to do a job with respect like a man today is sooo much haaaaaarrrder compared to growing up in the Great Depression then hitting adulthood just in time for the most horrifying, deadly global war the world has ever seen”. Like OP. You need to read a history book or actually talk to an old woman who…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 08:21 PM
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That was the subject you were discussing. I interjected with a related and relevant point comparing your targeted gender with the other. I was not claiming anyone is worse— that is your ow obsession. I was pointing out to all the dudes around here that actually yes, men do do this too. I do not care about your virtue signaling that men are morally superior and that women are evil for caring about appearances. Whatever. If men only judge women based on looks 10% of the amount that women judge men…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 01:51 PM
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Nice to see you continue to miss the point in order to shit on women. My point is that it is really fucking cruel and pointless to judge people negatively based solely on what they look like. But unsurprisingly, you jump in to defend being judgemental by judging women negatively by default too. Courtship is a fucking scam. I’m not telling him to “court” anybody. I’m telling him there’s no value in making up shitty judgements of people based on what they look like on the surface.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 05:39 PM
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If you won’t or can’t talk to a woman, then why are you judging her on her appearance in the first place? What is the benefit for you of judging someone you will never interact with?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 08:49 PM
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If you won’t or can’t talk to a woman, then why are you judging her on her appearance in the first place? What is the benefit for you of judging someone so harshly when you will never interact with them by your own choice? You can’t date or even work with a woman you won’t talk to. So why do you put so much effort int deciding her clothes means she’s a “slut” or whatever? It’s entirely irrelevant to your life what that stranger is really like, so why do you make up hateful stories about them in …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 04:01 PM
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I always write too much. It’s like, how I roll. But why are you downvoting me for not liking it when people put words in my mouth? Do you like it when people lie about what you said?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:56 PM
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I’m describing a simple fact, not telling you to hire a private investigator before even chatting with a woman. But presumably you can’t date a woman if you don’t talk to her. Assuming you know everything about her based on how big her tits are and how covered up they are… really doesn’t seem all that sane when you’re thinking about dating someone. You could like… get to know her and decide before you actually want to get serious or fuck or commit, instead of just deciding she’s waifu material b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:49 PM
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You honestly don't understand the fact that everyone judges everyone I do understand that. I literally said that women also judge men on their appearance in my last comment… a comment you clearly didn’t read when you knee-jerk claimed I “don’t understand”. My point is that you’re trying to change the subject. The topic of conversation was “yes, men do actually make a lot of judgements of women based on appearance”. Not one word of that topic implied women do not also judge on appearances. You in…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:43 PM
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What is it that you are claiming is reality here? And which analogy are you claiming doesn’t work?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:38 PM
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but if she's like most normal people, isn't hooking up with other guys, and dresses appropriately for the situation, he wouldn't care in general. So you do agree with me then. Men do, in fact, care how a woman dresses, and judge a woman very negatively for dressing however he thinks is “inappropriate”, which could mean (to him) anything from not wearing a bikini to Starbucks to wearing a full burqa. He will not, in fact, “pursue regardless of what she wears”. I clearly didn't say that men are no…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:34 PM
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Hmm I have to eat food to survive— it’s far more important to me to eat than sex is to you. Are you saying I’m a slave to Krogers? I feel like you’re really dismissing the actual brutal suffering of real slaves. Women are not slave drivers for not spreading their legs for you on your whims, dude, and it’s honestly insane you think a woman not obediently doing whatever you tell her to do is slavery. Obviously sex is a “big deal” in your mind if you’re out here comparing not getting it to slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:21 PM
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he will pursue regardless of what she wears. Absolute nonsense. Like sure you’ll (generic you) fuck a girl who doesn’t wear the clothes you approve of, but you won’t date her or introduce her to your friends. You’ll be ashamed of her and just fuck her in secret then throw her away. Or, for some men, you’ll get mad she wears the clothes she always wore when you were dating and complain she doesn’t dress more modest and try to control her. A lot of men use clothing, class markers, and other aspect…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:15 PM
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A lot of men draw all their conclusions about a woman based on how she looks. I suspect those guys will not listen to your obvious point that clothing is not actually proof of behavior or personality. They want an easy visual shortcut. They don’t want to do the hard work of actually vetting. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:34 PM
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you know what stds do before time of penicillin? Lots of married monogamous women died of them because their husbands were sluts. Syphillis was horrifying, and was so common it drove fashion— so many people were loosing hair due to syphillis that powdered wigs became the way you wore your hair. Marriage and female monogamy didn’t protect women from the ravages of STDs before penicillin. Men very often gave their wives deadly syphillis or a disease like gonorrhea that could sterilize her. Being a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 09:26 PM
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Few women in their 20's want to get married anymore, they only start wanting marriage in their 30's when their attractiveness takes a steep decline. Why on earth should any 20 year old woman want to marry someone who will think she’s worthless in a few years? Marrying her when she’s 22 won’t make you hate her any less for turning 30– you’ll still resent her every bit as much for being “in steep decline” when you want to just leave her or cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:10 PM
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Lots of old women die alone whether they married or not. Women live longer and me strongly prefer to date women younger than themselves— women outliving their husbands is ordinary and common. And before you say “but she won’t be lonely if she had kids”… how often do you actually visit your mom? Lots of women are visited seldom, especially once they become old and infirm and need care. And I’ll be frank— most of the time, if their kids do show up and care for them, it’s only her daughters, if she…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:07 PM
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The women who do porn Oh I misread that as “women who enter a profession”, as in any woman who has a job or a career You mean women who enter sex work do it for “shits and giggles”? That is some of them. Others enter the industry because they were trafficked or were abused teenaged runaways. Then get a normal job? You people claim that women used to be forced into it because they had no other choice. Yeah. Like I said I misunderstood. I thought you were bitching about women getting jobs instead …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:46 PM
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You don’t think a post on the polyamory sub might be a weeeee bit biased towards their own personal tastes? Historically, you usually got polygamy by treating women like absolute shit. Mormon polygamist didn’t get multiple wives because women found those fat old elders hot; they forced 13 year old girls into child marriages with powerful men (and threatened them with eternal damnation if they didn’t submit) and also exiled the teenaged boys they were actually attracted to. The historical classic…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:22 PM
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You likely have lots of options to have sex that you do not want— there are a lot of gay men who would be glad to have sex with you. Those are options you have, so you are winning. Yet you don’t consider it winning at all, because they aren’t actually options you want. What you actually want is to have lots of options to get what you want. If 1,000 men offer me painful dry miserable one-night stands, and the prospect of a one night got stand makes me want to vomit…how is it “winning” to have so …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:04 PM
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Then why do women enter the profession for "shits and giggles" today?! It’s not for “shits and giggles”. It’s because you need money to survive and I don’t want to be a prostitute. I didn’t have any men asking to marry me at 18, dude. I kept my legs together, and men ignored me. I am not a whore, so I had to get money somehow. A job is far safer and more reliable than desperately begging men for marriage from the streets.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:45 PM
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But that doesn't mean that because 50 women "targeted" Cosby, that any man accused of rape by any woman must immediately be guilty as well. I don’t see where I argued that one woman saying something means you should put a man in jail for life without any investigation or a trial? Can you quote where you think I argued something so stupid?? Far too many people are willing to throw out the baby with the bathwater and judge men as being guilty by default until or unless proven otherwise, and that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 11:56 AM
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Your claim is that it’s poorly thought out not to assume everyone photographed smiling with Epstein was there at the point of a gun?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 03:33 PM
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So your claim is that Jay Z and Pusha T (whoever that is), were forced at gunpoint to hang out with Epstein? Jay Z is a literal multi-billionaire. Why do you think Jay Z, a guy who even sang a song called “big pimpin’”, was “forced with a gun at his head” to hang out with the child-pimp of the billionaire class?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 02:16 PM
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This sounds fairly specific… can you clarify which incident or photo you’re talking about? Like, who do you think was photographed smiling with Hitler with a gun to their head that you think people are unfairly condemning as a Nazi? Or who do you think was photographed smiling with Epstein with a gun at their back forcing them to shake his hand? If this is such a likely scenario, then maybe you can name names on who you’re defending and make the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:52 PM
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Yeah, like Cosby, for example. There was no reason for 50+ different women to have targeted him specifically (and over many many years) when most Hollywood stars don’t get a peep. Like… simple explanation is that yeah, Cosby was a big fat rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:49 PM
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And far more men have zombie apocalypse prepped fantasies. Do those men genuinely want society to collapse and to have to shoot their dad when he gets infected? The fact that some (and not all!) women have rape fantasies doesn’t mean it’s cool for you to rape people. Like seriously, don’t go around looking for an excuse to be the worst person possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:40 PM
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A lot of traditional men don’t respect that competence though. Many consider competence at childrearing and housework to be proof of women’s inferiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:35 PM
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No kidding. Like just yesterday in conversations I had here, I saw men: brag openly that he thinks it’s truly great that some men are eager to marry a woman they think is an “absolute moron”. compare having a girlfriend and expecting her to be able to solve any problems to owning a dog and expecting it to speak English talk about how annoying when a girl they’re dating complains about being out of milk but can’t figure out how to solve that problem … and they think it is a good quality to have s…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 01:58 PM
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Quote where I said I am a feminist. I’ll wait while you explain why you called me something you clearly consider a fucking heinous insult. And explain why it’s “ironic” that I consider individuals rather than consider everyone’s hivemind. You think I’m a feminist— I’m pretty sure most feminists don’t consider women all the same. Do you… not know what the word irony means?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 01:19 PM
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That literally doesn't follow from what I said It follows just fine from your belief that being “first” is best. You’d willingly sacrifice things you actually care about just as long as no other man got it. No, we wouldn't treat her worse than the virgin. She would still get the same treatment. You said you’d wait for a virgin and wouldn’t wait for someone who had sex before. That’s different treatment— patience versus impatience. We wouldn't deny her acts that we did with the virgin. You would …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 01:17 PM
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It could be that it’s a five minute solution for the guy and not the girl, If it’s such a simple five minute solution that you’re getting pissy, and she’s too clueless to figure it out… it’s cuz she dumb, bro. As you guys keep constantly preaching, you do not care about anything except how she looks and whether she’s nice. Her being a total dumbdumb is one of the likely consequences of you not caring about anything but looks and that she’s not a criminal. Men will find a variety of positives abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 12:28 AM
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Not really. You’re just griping about something easily fixed. Claiming my existence is proof that all women are stupid incompetent dogs that can’t solve problems… really doesn’t suggest you’ve got a lot of skills with logic or reasoning. But again, you could always just solve your problem with women in 5 minutes— it is trivially easy to just dump her. And yet instead you whine and whine and whine about women being dogs instead of fixing your problem and just staying single. It’s wild watching yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 11:42 PM
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Just by the nature of dating apps, would you say you swiped faily? It was OK Cupid before it was acquired by Match Group and turned into a swipe hellscape. But sigh… of course you just assume the worst and that I was turbo swiping only for Chad. I don’t know what you mean by “swiping fairly”, but I fucking tried. I even went on dates with guys I was doubtful about: way younger, foreign, whatever. I did tell you already that I didn’t go for an obese 15 years older divorced single dad— is that unf…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:04 PM
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I am not trying to put words in your mouths I’m simply drawing natural conclusions from what you are saying. The way you are talking about this hypothetical woman is that you think she is stupid— she has problems that have trivially simple 5 minute solutions, and she’s too deeply incompetent to figure anything out on her own without your superior guidance. Like, seriously, how can you possibly pretend you respect this woman when you think she’s this profoundly incapable of basic human problem so…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:18 PM
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Also where did I call her "useless and dumb"? You didn’t use those words, but like… someone who can’t figure out how to buy milk is just, practically speaking, useless and dumb. I cannot imagine wanting to be in a relationship with someone who I consider that stupid. Like seriously, how could you possibly want to date someone who sees an empty fridge and is like “oh no, the fridge is empty, I can’t handle it, what do we doooooo??”. Like, I guess if there’s no money at all, I get it, but that’s a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:00 PM
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1-3 messages per week is not that bad, I assume you mean from different people. It’s not “bad”, but it’s also wildly different from your claim that any women will be swamped. And as I said already, many of those messages were not real messages— my responses to them were ignored. Someone who doesn’t respond to you at all isn’t an “option” even if they did technically send one spam message at random. You could very well be in a small exception group, like men who have big success on apps, they do …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:53 PM
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Yes I do understand hypotheticals. And in this hypothetical, you are complaining about something that can be trivially solved with minimal effort on your part if you are ever affected by it. So again, in this hypothetical scenario: How would you hypothetically wind up dating a woman you think is this fucking stupid and useless? Why is this a relationship you think is desirable? Why is your solution to this kind of problem for the man to complain and gripe and whine about it online instead of jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:34 PM
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Yeah, I think I mostly agree with you. Although I’d cut short of full libertarianism— well-governed and moderated free markets are better than capitalism-gone-wild. Some version of socially oriented governing must exist to address the tragedy of the commons and to ensure the population’s rights are not trod upon by corporate interests. But yeah, full on socialism is a dumpster fire… it’s just far from the only kind of dumpster fire governance around. Fascism is basically socialism anyway, it's j…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:44 PM
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This is not the kind of problem women are asking for empathy on, and you know it. But likewise… why are you dating a woman you think is this pathetically useless and dumb. Like seriously, you’re apparently dating a woman too stupid to buy a jug of milk— why did you choose to date this total dud? And also, why are you complaining about this woman, when you could easily solve your problem by just breaking up with her. It’s trivially easy to solve the problem of dating a woman this useless and whin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:36 PM
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I just kinda can't wrap my head around thinking "ugh, I could solve this issue in just 5 minutes, why don't I NOT do that and instead bitch about it to my partner" Perhaps she’s not actually a fucking moron and the problem isn’t actually solvable in just 5 minutes without creating a bunch of other problems that you couldn’t be bothered to consider or listen to. But if she really is a fucking stupid as you clearly think she is… why doesn’t that make you equally stupid for dating her? You’re here …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:31 PM
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I did. I got very few responses overall. I honestly didn’t even get more than a couple of creeps or dick pics or perverts. I’d get maybe around 1-3 messages per week at most, and they’d often ignore me or trail off interest when I messaged back. Very few were sort of reasonable (like no, as a 30 year old childless thin virgin I wasn’t interested in dating an obese 45 year old single dad— I don’t think that’s unreasonably picky, do you?). OLD wasn’t Hell and I did eventually find someone, but it …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:27 PM
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I’ll agree this one is… problematic. It’s not all women, but it’s really common for women to gossip about partners or overshare. Like, there’s good aspects of this, where they are able to spread out their need for support beyond just their partner… but it also sometimes can be hurtful because they’ll share things that should be private with people outside the relationship. I’ve heard things sometimes that are just… they should have kept it private.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:16 PM
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This has not been my experience at all. Men did not approach me either— I had to work on myself and approach men to get anything resembling a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:56 PM
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But it's difficult for me to sympathize about a problem that I could fix in 5 minutes and everyone could just move on. I’m kinda curious why you think she’s too stupid to figure out your simple 5 minute fix that would just fix everything. One of the things I’ve noticed when guys complain about this topic is that they often think there’s a simple stupid-easy fix for a problem… implying that he also thinks his girlfriend must be a complete fucking moron for not solving it so quick and easy. But in…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:48 PM
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and ensure lots of good little obedient stooges for the regime are born so that there is no shortage of enforcers of the ruling class It’s literally a founding principle of fascism: breed more for the state apparatus. The socialist insiders, of course, get to "redistribute" the hottest women for themselves and fuck them in whatever non-monogamistic word-of-the-day they want, Also obviously not limited to socialism. This has been the modus operandi for powerful men of every government structure t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:34 PM
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We care about fast sex if we want fast sex. If we want something serious then we care about getting the best deal. So again, it’s far kore important to you what some other dude got than about what you actually desire. You’d happily put up with not getting what you want for the maybe-chance to plant your flag so you can proclaim “I got the first fucking out of this one”, and don’t respect any other woman as much. So yes, I think it’s quite clear from your argument that women should take it as an …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:21 PM
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If they are real, then it should be trivially easy to show actual evidence instead of feelz and rumors and manosphere chips on shoulders. The places I had seen evidence for unfair hiring practices against men right now is in Hollywood writing rooms and journalism (a dying field anyways). But if you want to claim “quotas are def a thing” then you have to actually back up that claim with facts, not with indignant anger that women are allowed to work for pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:09 PM
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only they have an institutional thumb on the scale in their favor with gender based hiring quotas, which very much are a thing No. Gender based hiring quotas are very much illegal in the US. I don’t know where you got your manosphere propaganda, but the actual laws in the United states prohibit hiring quotas. You’re going to choose not to believe me about the hiring quotas Becasue I choose to listen to facts, not out-upon feelings that women could only possibly be hired based on quotas based on …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:06 PM
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They've been around my entire career. Not in the US they haven’t. Job quotas are fully illegal in the United States by the Supreme Court ruling in 1978. Affirmative action for college on the basis of race was more recently outlawed as well (I am not clear if it is legal on the basis of sex— many colleges have been accepting men with lower test scores and lower performances in order to try to gender balance the campuses). Exceptions can be made only in the case of extreme discrimination, and thos…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:53 PM
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It is unfortunate that you feel that not restricting and punishing women for being born female is somehow oppression for men. You clearly believe women are your worst fucking enemy, yet somehow bafflingly expect women to date you. Why do you want to date your enemy? And also: there are not quotas in the US. They have been illegal since 1978 (and those were primarily racial, in the wake of the civil rights act)… likely before you were born.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:35 PM
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Eh, not everyone followed your picky rules in prior generations either. My dad was silent generation and did almost all of the cooking, and my uncle was a boomer and did the same. I learned my own love of cooking from my dad, not my mom. Some men love to cook— it’s not your place to kick them out of the kitchen or to try to boss around other people at all. Like, if you want a woman to cook and clean for you, then make yourself appealing to a woman who is interested in doing that instead of bitch…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:04 AM
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Clothing is a basic survival need anywhere that hypothermia is a risk. Clothing is an aspect of aspect of shelter anywhere outside of the tropics. But if you mean just “buying clothes”, it’s pretty wild you compare something you seem to think is critical to male happiness, to something as stereotypical and trivial as shipping, lol. Like, you’re really gonna pull “women be shopping”. If sex is as important to you as shopping is to me, then sex doesn’t fucking matter to you at all. If I never had …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:18 PM
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I’ve definitely gotten both snide and weird comments from men about the fact that I’m tall. I’m not even extremely tall, just quite tall for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:09 PM
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“Taller than me” is an incredibly weak filter for most women— it excludes a small percentage of men for average height women, and almost no men for below-average height women. And I’m curious… why the belief that being taller (or having any trait a woman likes) makes the man superior and the woman inferior? I am taller than my husband— so lemme guess, you’ll need to manufacture some other reason I’m a “hypergamous” bitch? If a man wants a woman who is more feminine than he is, why is that not “h…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:07 PM
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So yet another definition among 1,000 different definitions. Yawn. “Hypergamy” is defined by red pillers as literally any trait a woman fins attractive in a man. No matter what the trait is, that trait immediately becomes the evidence that the man is superior and the woman is inferior. If a woman dates a man shorter than average, well guess what? She must be hypergamous some other way… oh, she likes his sense of humor and charisma?There you go— she’s dating “up” because he is charismatic, and he…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:03 PM
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Yeah, she could be really and totally self-centered and just claims “everyone” is in the situation she’s in. Just to be clear, when I say this post is probably not a real woman, I’m not trying to defend every possible terrible woman in higher education— I’m quite sure there are some women who are crazy, terrible, etc. It’s just that this post in particular really does hit the red-pill, anti-female-education revenge fantasy notes wayyyyy too perfectly. In this narrative, every woman with an advan…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:44 PM
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“Her” comment history is now suddenly totally hidden. Seems pretty suspicious
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:14 PM
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Oh yeah, sure, some men in the trades would be great too possibly (I do suspect this poster is a larp troll, though, so maybe not for this one. Their post history is hidden and it just hits every red-pill revenge-post story beat too perfectly!) Although I will mention it might be harder to find the men willing to date a woman with an advanced degree among tradesmen. Men in trades are more likely to be quite conservative and many will have real problems with a breadwinning or over-educated wife. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:10 PM
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I can’t tell for sure, but it sounds like a larp to me too, simply because it just perfectly hits every single story beat that red pillers love to hear: a woman has an advanced degree or a high-paying career and is snobby and uppity and mean she is perfect red pill stereotype of a “feminist”: she calls men “toxic” and “patriarchal” for not marrying her. she thinks her degree means she’s entitled to date whoever she wants, and is mad that men don’t comply (seriously, I have a higher degree and I …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:59 PM
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My favorite is when they pivot to just basic sexual dimorphism, which is in OP too. Like yeah women usually date men taller than them… coincidentally, most men are taller than most women! Like the 50th percentile average height man is as tall as or taller than 95% of women! Of course your going to see most couples having the man taller— you would get that if you forced straight couples together at random too. The reality is that their definition of “hypergamy” is circular and unfalsifiable. Anyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:46 PM
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Honestly, this post sounds like it could also have been a larp written by a red piller trying to blast women with advanced degrees. (Edit to add: notice, the comment history for the poster is deliberately hidden, which is a pretty common trick here). Red pill men seriously LOVE telling women “your degree isn’t attractive*, all that matters is your looks and being “nice”, and you should definitely know your accomplishments are a 100% completely worthless waste of time and effort in every way. So …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:20 PM
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The problem is that she was attracted to past men in a way she's not attracted to the current man Why is the problem not merely that you care a lot about fast sex and will reject any woman that doesn’t provide that? Why is it “consistency” and comparing yourself to other men that matters more than just… caring about what you actually want? For example, let’s say there’s a virgin who wont have sex within 3 dates, but you normally expect sex on the first date. Why would you put up with multiple bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:51 PM
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The flaw in this theory is that there’s no way to know if “waiting for sex” is an actual universal boundary she in place for everyone or something applied selectively. Just like there’s no way for her to know if you’re being honest about liking her and wanting a relationship, or you’re just bullshitting to pump and dump her. Dating involves uncertainty. Taking it slower gives you more time to evaluate what kind of person they are… but if all you care about is getting as much sex as you can as fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:34 PM
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A lot of the women who pick these kinds of men are either choosing based upon looks or charisma Most men choose women based entirely on looks and charisma. I’m not sure why you are so angry at women, yet praise men for the same behavior. Men very often choose terrible women. still sexual hypergamy, though, and women are not choosing the men who don’t pass their looks, charisma or status/education thresholds If it is “sexual hypergamy” when women don’t choose men who don’t pass their looks thresh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:51 PM
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I suppose the issue is that a lot of guys really do love to hear the tale that, if they got laid, it’s because that they’re better than the women who fucked them. There just seems to be this unfortunate common compulsion among a lot of men to look down on and disrespect anyone they are having sex with and to demand she worship him, when he offers her nothing but put-downs. That plus many men seem simply to be incapable of respecting or admiring the very feminine qualities they desire most in a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 11:51 AM
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You do not need to read a two paragraph comment like a thesis to avoid making a false accusation So you’re not going to acknowledge I admitted I misread, huh. Just gonna lecture me about… something you did yourself. Just admit you screwed up I already said I didn’t read carefully? What’s wrong with you? that even a man doing his best is going to find themselves having a difficult time dating Plenty of men are not “doing their best” and are not struggling. Many are struggling, but it’s not univer…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:22 AM
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Sure. I’m not reading this dumpster fire like it’s a thesis. You got me. It’s merely most other pillish-dudes who insist women are ALL hypergamous losers without exception. But I also don’t say where he claimed some women are not hypergamous— he merely said not all western women marry attractive “bad people”. He seems to be claiming all women are “hypergamous” as he says that’s “just how hypergamy works”. Anyways, I’m also curious what your anecdote proves here. Since we are on the topic of what…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 10:16 PM
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Well, this kind of thing is going to be problematic in some conservative traditional country. Yeah. My point exactly. You are willing to overlook really wild and bizarre flaws to find any way to praise the dude as a superior specimen entirely because he is male and you think men are automatically awesome, no matter what trashy behavior they put out. But some women will just ignore it if the guy is going pleasant enough in other ways and he has a decent job. Some women will overlook it if they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:22 PM
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That would be totally relevant if he had said “some women are shooting out of their league”, which is totally true and I agree. What he said is that all women are hypergamous, meaning he believes all women are inferior dribbling loosers compared to whatever man they date, no matter what. And no, sorry, it is not actually true that all men are rich glorious fit heroic handsome heartthrob and all women are nothing but ugly broke obese dumb losers… making “lamps” (which I will admit, your descripti…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:12 PM
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and not having anything obviously “wrong” with him You don’t think there is anything wrong (from the perspective of a chaste respectable woman in the US or abroad) with a man who wears vulgar clothing telling women to fuck his face??? It’s just how hypergamy works. It’s “hypergamy” for a woman to reject a vulgar man who swipes on anything female with zero taste, hmm? At this point, and as far as i can tell, any man who uses the word “hypergamy” has simply found a new and socially acceptable way …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:56 PM
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Ah yes. Western women are such horrible bitchy snobs for not wanting to date a crude man wearing a crude shirt saying “sitya ass on my face”. That’s what those traditional women abroad are really looking for— a gross, inappropriate porn-brained western man she can’t bring in front of her parents. 🙄 Meanwhile you insult the husbands and boyfriends many of the women here for no reason, just calling them “bad people”. How are you so sure you’re such a wonderful western man, when you automatically j…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:11 PM
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most women like this are complaining about to much male attention with the caveat that they aren’t really really ugly Ah yes, thanks for the reminder that any woman who isn’t swamped with male attention is really really really ugly. Thanks for going out of your way to call me ugly! You’re a real peach.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 01:14 PM
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You’re the only one around here calling people misogynists or misandrists. I didn’t call you a misogynist? If you’re mad at “blue pillers” calling you a misogynist, go talk to them. Don’t whine at me and expect me to be fussed that you wanna call me a misandrist for not being the hottest girl in the universe.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 01:11 PM
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There's nothing disgusting about it, "deflower" is a very common term. It is a common term because it is a common term among virgin-fetishizers and religious fucks who think a woman is ruined by by having sex. Just take a deep breath, there's no need to get upset over a word. Not surprising you’re telling me to “calm down” in the most patronizing tone. Why don’t you try answering a question honestly, instead of attacking made up emotions and being condescending? Or can you not answer the questio…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:15 PM
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Yeah, I get it. Just wanted to also bring up that like gets with like. There are boring, unwanted women for a dude who never had a relationship… The problem with OP is that he doesn’t want his counter part. He wants the hot social butterfly cheerleader and doesn’t want the boring dork unwanted awkward mid girl who is actually his match. He wants to claim all women have a huge history so he can justify ignoring his “looks match”, in their weird-ass terminology.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:15 PM
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The person who deflowers you Why do you use such disgusting, purity culture language to describe a first partner? Why should I pretend, like you do, that my only value is my virginity, and that sex with a man has tainted me and made be dirty and inferior as a future partner? Seriously, why did you choose to use the language of religious virgin fetishizers here? And why doesn’t the woman who “deflowers” a man have any significance to him, but she’s supposed to pine for her first her whole life?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:05 PM
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Eh, I never did casual sex and I preferred a guy who also didn’t go out trying to fuck every woman in sight. I definitely didn’t want a guy with a ton of experience when I had none— we obviously wouldn’t share sexual values. I also never had the “chance” to experience hot guys wanting me, so why would it be a big deal to me that he didn’t have hot girls faking all over him?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:50 PM
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Men can't be sluts. I don't glorify them, I acknowledge that they have value which most men don't. They totally can be, and many are. And yes, you are praising them for the “value” you think they have. You keep stating that a man who goes out and bangs a drunk girl is getting a far better man than a guy who lands a good wife. No, I do respect women who wait. Though only if they are virgins. If you already gave your body to other men and then expect your future husband to wait for you, you are de…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 02:53 AM
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Not at all, most women have casual sex at some point so it's not very rare. They marry after they have had their fun and slept around. Lots of women try it once maybe, but the median N-count is only 4-6. Women offering casual sex are functionally very hard for you to find. I have a ton of respect for women who wait with sex or even wait until marriage. It shows self respect and modesty I disagree that you do— you still glorify casual sex. and disparage marriage as rotten and inferior shit for me…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:55 PM
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There is actually a regular poster in this sub who is flaired as a diagnosed sociopath (literally diagnosed ASPD). I won’t describe his whole story since it’s not mine to retell (although he’s shared it here multiple times if you search). But his dating life is not what he or you would consider even remotely successful or effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:39 PM
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But as I said, a good wife is more rare so it can still be a compliment Women offering casual sec are far far rarer— that’s why you are so obsessed with them. It is why so many men actually basically worship women who offer casual sex, and why they have nothing but disdain for women who wait to have sex. marriage they can't choose as freely because not every hot guy wants to commit to them, so for marriage they have to lower their standards. It is men like you who lower their standards to get ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:09 PM
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Wife material is a compliment because every woman can be a good slut but not every woman a good wife. It is not a compliment from a dude who resents or hates marriage. If a man thinks getting casual sex is good and being married is an annoying last resort to get sex, then there is no way to be a “good wife” for him. He fuckin hates his wife because she’s the miserable shit deal he had to resort to to get sex. He doesn’t actually like her or respect her. Husband material is not a compliment becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:34 PM
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The point is why do you think raw truth would break men? Because they hate everything about women’s sexuality and think all other men are just like them. Imagining a woman be anything other than a perfect fantasy asexual virgin for every other man grosses them out. They want a woman who has never even glanced at another man… but the very first time she sees him she’s supposed to be overwhelmed by uncontrollable insatiable lust for him. Anything short of that fantasy “breaks” them, sadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 01:05 PM
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Yeah. I think they actually like preening that they have their “secret knowledge” (aka made up beliefs and feelings) that every woman has this massive sordid history of wild sexual scandal. The seem to want to imagine that most women have some wild extreme pornographic past… probably because they filled their head with porn from a very young age. They would be pretty disappointed by how boring most women have been. Either that or they’d be grossed out and horrified by the idea of women ever even…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 01:00 PM
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I think it’s also really interesting how deeply and totally nihilistic so many of these guys are… and how totally they all despise the idea of women wanting sex with anyone ever. They assume every woman is holding some deep horrible evil dark secret of having fucked a bajillion men and that keeping it a secret is somehow the source of women’s terrifying power over them. The notion that sex isn’t some dark disturbing corrupting force doesn’t occur to them at all. The somehow take comfort in belie…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:29 PM
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Yeah, true, but it’s still entirely the females that determine the society’s “rules”. And in another sense… since the females are almost always the ones raising the young, females are almost always the ones passing along behavioral training and social rules to the young. The argument that the bigger stronger animal decides everything is rather simplistic when looking at the behaviors of intelligent social species. It’s clearly not true in humans either, since women have always had influence over…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:25 AM
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In all animals the stronger sex tend to make societal rules. That’s really not the case if you look at social animals. It simply depends on the species. Just off the top of my head, elephants clearly don’t follow that rule. In elephants, bull male elephants are bigger and stronger… yet elephant society is led entirely by matriarchs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 10:28 AM
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He ain’t reciprocating, that’s what. Can’t imagine why these dudes are single and struggling so hard find their sex-doll submissive waifu, lol! Hilarious that OP thinks it’s so realistic and easy to find a woman who wants to be always submissive and giving, and get nothing in return but a dick slapping her face with an hand at the back of her head followed by a bunch of bitchy orders to clean his mess! How are these guys even real people? Like seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 10:05 AM
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How the fuck should I know? I just said I have never ever had casual sex. Why are you whining at me like I’m some kind of casual sex dispenser? I don’t like casual sex, and I don’t think it’s good for people in general. You might as well be whining at me that it’s soooo hard for you to find heroin to buy, why won’t anyone sell it too you, waaaah 😭 🎻 . Like dude, I’m not a dealer. Miss me with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:54 AM
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Huh? How am solipsistic? Of course, I'm not. Wanting something doesn't make anyone solipsistic Believing that other people want exactly what you want because you want it is solipsistic. Believing women are getting “the best deal” when her husband is cheating on her is peak solipsism, dude. That's demonstrably incorrect. Most men want to have a threesome with their partner and another woman, but not man. Yes, I know you think everyone totally wants to enable your threesomes. Women do not tolerate…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:51 AM
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A gun is only an advantage when the man is far enough away that he can’t wrestle it from you. That means shooting a man a long time before you know if he’s going to use physical force on you. In what kind of scenarios are you advocating for women to use a gun to have the upper hand against a man? Remember that the vast majority of violence committed against women is committed by someone they know personally, not by a crazy stranger announcing from 100 yards away that they’re gonna hurt you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:28 AM
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That's just your fantasy based on nothing No, the only fantasy here is you thinking a non-monogamous husband is offering a good deal, hahah. Just yuck. Sex with other women doesn't have to be cheating (for both men and women) If she’s gay, she’s way better off just avoiding dating the scum-bag cheating slut man in the first place and dating women instead. A woman can’t get her pregnant and tie her to such a rotten grad cheater legally forever. Total benefit not to date this scumbag disloyal dude…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 08:46 PM
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That's not related to settling The all are. You just don’t realize it. Men who feel like they are settling will not put in effort and won’t do anything to make her happy. They’ll just do the minimum needed to avoid loosing their boring backup plan. They don’t actually care about her beyond avoiding the annoyance of a divorce. Where did I say that? I didn't. I'm just telling you that it's a fact that she will get the best deal he can offer. And I’m telling you that for the overwhelming majority o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 07:34 PM
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Ok, why do men gaslight me and tell me that men will constantly approach any woman who isn’t fat or totally ugly? That wasn’t my experience at all, yet when I explain that, men here constantly gaslight me that my life couldn’t possibly be real. As for why I didn’t approach when I was young: I had conservative parents. I was always taught that I was supposed to be feminine and patient and aso got older, guys would finally be a little more mature and start to notice me and ask me out. They taught …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:49 PM
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Nah, pretty good deal for her. Him settling for her doesn't mean she will come to reddit posting how "he made me wait for sex but not another woman in the past" or "he had anal in the past but won't have it with me". It’ll just be different complaints: “he doesn’t try anymore”, “he only gets hard watching porn and isn’t attracted to me anymore”, “he’s been cheating on me”, “he doesn’t care about me”, “the spark is gone”. Men who actually just want casual sex aren’t going to care about a woman af…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:19 PM
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Its you women who believe husbands are less attractive and inferior to your fuck buddies I do not have “fuck buddies”. I had never fucked one of you wanna-be fuck-boys and turbo-sluts. Men like you are the ones who glorify casual sex, who think casual sex is the most amazing thing they can possibly experience. Men like you are the ones who shit on marriage, who say they hate everything about bent married and think marriage is the miserable price they have to pay just to get sex, and it’s not the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:09 PM
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I do not have casual sex. I never have. It is also why I absolutely would not have dated a man who was a slut: we do not share values. Having shared values is an important foundation for building a relationship. For me, sex is an intimate special thing to be shared only with someone incredibly special to you… how could I possibly have a good relationship with a turbo slut who will never be able to see me as anything other than another wet hole to fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:32 PM
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Even the most eligible of batchelors get tired of promiscuity. He's not settling for; he's settling down. He’s still settling for something boring after spending his life chasing what he truly desires. The fact that he got tired of the effort it took doesn’t mean he wants monogamy. You’re still being settled for. I see what you're doing, though, inverting the old AFBB trope. I’m not inverting anything, I’m telling it like it is. Loads of men absolutely do categorize women into two groups — women…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 11:10 PM
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Right and that's the logical conclusion when the overwhelming response to being asked what wives like about their husbands are the things they get from him. OK. And the logical conclusion to seeing a dude prioritize sexual variety and casual is to conclude he does not want boring, settling monogamy with one woman. Straightforward logic. Glad you understand. And if asked what they liked about their flings, hookups etc? And when asked what a dude liked about his flings and hookups, it’s that she s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 11:02 PM
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This man is not settling for her, though. He is absolutely. He is a man who views casual sex as a wonderful and validating, and views marriage a trash-tier settling shit. If he’s marring at all, it’s setting. The kind of woman he marries he will resent for not validating him the way he can only be validated by his slut life. He truly genuinely deeply desired the women he casually fucked. Little old wifey is just there to do chores and bear legitimate children, but he will always hate her for bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:18 PM
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I mean, OP is projecting a lot on how he thinks women think about marriage precisely because he sees marriage as a miserable bowl of shit. And that’s evidently how you view marriage yourself. What woman would ever want to be someone’s miserable bowl of shit? Far better to just be a slut than to be tied to a man who thinks of her like that. Just go out and be a slut. Don’t ever marry. No woman wants the hateful shit marriage where you hate your spouse the way you plan to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:15 PM
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Most of the time, you don’t have to wait for sex. You can also marry someday if you want, because you can. That’s why I say men should sleep around a lot when they’re young to get all the validation. So when he marries, he is “settling”, and his boring wife is his last choice lame boring ball-and-chain after he had all his fun in the past with women he was far more attracted to. He views marriage as setting and fucking around as the best option— seems like you expect women to stupidly want to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 05:36 PM
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I mean, yeah. A lot of men do not value traditional feminine labor. See… all of history, where women’s work didn’t ever earn them respect or equality. Men as a general rule respect money, power, and things. Not the soft boring dumb feminine social care-work stuff so many men mock as pointless and inferior.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 07:01 PM
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Yeah, it was, because then you understood everything without any problems No, telling you that your words are jumbled is not an insult. I guessed, but again, you didn’t even ask a question. How was I supposed to know there was a question. So they're supposedly looking for any excuse to leave her, and if she does live up to their expectations, they'll stay with her... No woman can possibly live up to their expectations, because they literally do not want a cautious sexually reserved woman. They w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:39 PM
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It is not an insult. Read your words aloud: “this only if does not exists information” is not standard English. I want to answer an actual question, not guess the meaning of a jumble of words. And second: there was no question there at all. You made a statement and did not ask a question. But fine, I’ll guess your question is “Everything you said is a lie because men never ever make any assumptions and they always know a woman’s full history and exactly how long it took her to fuck past men base…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:17 PM
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And this is a lie, because this only if does not exist information about who you're dating... I had absolutely no idea what this means: the words seem to be jumbled up. Can you try running this through Google Translate again it that’s what went wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:07 PM
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And this is not entirely true when several men here have already told you that the problem is the unevenness of the checks It is functionally the same because those men cynically assume every woman fucked some mythical chaaaaad in the past. It doesn’t matter how actually virginal she is, these guys will assume she’s a slut who used to get a train run on her by an NFL team or whatever. What they actually want is to get fucked instantly bu dozens of women like Chad, and to pick from those women. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 01:49 PM
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What am I not accountable for, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:05 PM
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You called the person you first responded to in this chain ugly, not me. But you literally are admitting right here that you’re offering me a solution to being ugly. How do you think that isn’t calling me ugly? And dude, you know calling me an “incel” is intended as an insult. Clearly you weren’t taught that if you can’t say something nice, maybe it’s better to shut your tap.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:04 PM
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Eh, probably people who try to claim women apologizing is never real and is just “defusing instead of admitting fault”.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:01 PM
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A true apology (not just “im sorry you feel that way”) often is part of accountability— the acceptance and admission of wrongdoing or failure. Someone who never apologizes is very likely never holding themselves accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 05:40 PM
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Don’t jump the gun to try to play the victim here— I didn’t say anything about “not liking” your definition. On what basis do you assume I don’t “like” the dictionary definition? I asked what your definition is. It’s a question. Why are you attacking me over a relevant and very simple question of clarification ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 05:37 PM
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You should probably clarify what you mean by hatred here. A dude yesterday was trying to explain that the straight male desire for sex means it’s totally impossible for a man to ever hate women, and that women “hate” men any time they’re not spreading their legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:36 PM
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I used to be genuinely the nicest person anyone has known. Lolololol. 😂 Thanks for the laugh. People don’t change. Nobody who is as instantly, hyperreactively bitchy as you were here has ever been a kind, decent person. Know what that got me? 0 pussy. Now I'm a "bad person" as you say and I can get it at will. The fact that you always glorified being a turboslut tells me that at most you were just fake nice. I’ve met enough bitchy fake nice people to recognize it when I see it— they all say they…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:52 PM
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So you’re too lazy to do anything but mae baseless personal assumptions so you can call a woman you’ve never even seen ugly and lazy. May you always receive the same shitty, dismissive treatment you give to others for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:45 PM
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That you deal in cheap insulting stereotypes says nothing about men in general. It only says bad things about you personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:34 PM
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Stating facts is not an insult. You can see her face and body through the internet, huh. Tell me how you use this psychic magic trick! Or maybe you told grok to guess based on your assumptions? Hit the gym, let your hair long, take care of your skin. Remember ladies, it’s actualy a lot more than “don’t be fat”. It’s actually have flawless skin and perfect hair and be very fit: otherwise you’re “ugly” and worthy only of contempt and insults. If you’re not a natural 8/10, you’re supposed to go die…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:13 PM
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If a woman can't get a relationship she's fat and/or ugly. And that is the kind of empathy women get in return for being open here when they aren’t flooded with male interest: insults and sneering contempt. Why should women offer empathy if, when they do, they just get told they’re ugly and should go out and get pumped and dumped?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:06 PM
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Likely because he never apologizes or admits he’s wrong about anything. “Accountability”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:01 PM
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Classic red pill was all about having fun, being social and interesting, being confident and secure, and maximizing the things a guy could control to be more attractive to women while avoiding unattractive behaviors. I’ll agree somewhat that red pillers have gotten way less willing to be social and interesting… but the seeds of their whining about modern women having premarital sex was always there from the start in their favorite phrase “enjoy the decline”. “The decline” referred specifically t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:43 AM
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Except that misogynists on average don't do this. I didn’t say the average misogynist does that. I am pointing out that your insistence on defining “hatred” based on sexual desire excludes even the most profoundly evil of men. It is your claim, not mine, that merely having lust for a woman’s body proves that a man “loves” women. And by your definition, Ted Bundy loved women just as much as you do, and the only men who, by your definition, “hate” women are homosexual. It is you who claim that a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:26 PM
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Then you should be more grateful to women. Much of the work-related safety protections for men originated with women. The very first work and safety epidemiologist was a woman who tirelessly advocated for worker protections and fought against factories maiming and poisoning their workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:57 PM
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Ah yes, the old “Ted Bundt truly loved women. That’s why he raped and murdered so many of them: out of love!” The word you want is “lust” not “love”. You are using the word “love” for simply having the innate biological urge to fuck as a way to glorify the male sex drive as superior and demonize women. It’s just another of the standard “men are all wonderful, and women all suck” posts we see around this sub every so often. Yes, some men like the idealized physical bodies of some women and they l…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:54 PM
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I have been informed that any woman who is not constantly swamped with male interest is an unlovable worthless sack of shit. So no, you would not date me. No cap.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:31 AM
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Why do 80 year olds seek out relationships with 18 year olds? At 80? Because they want someone to take care of their medical needs instead of putting them in a care home.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:07 PM
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I mean you argue with incels all the time and most people do connect and incels failure to be a moral failure.... Pointless whataboutism, but also wrong when addressing mein particular: I have not ever claimed that a man who is a virgin or struggles to have sex is “a moral failure”. Don’t put stupid words in my mouth, and don’t project your own feelings at me. And in defending that position, all you’re doing here is proving that you do, in fact, believe it is a moral failure for a woman to not l…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 06:37 PM
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Why are you so insistent on saying she’s wrong about her own life? Do you consider it moral failing for a woman to be anything short of beautiful?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:39 PM
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10,000 word angry screeds on reddit from red pill men in the “anger phase”, or passport bros writing theories of “western women”, etc… suggest some men do, in fact, have the time. You forget: Reddit is social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 12:45 PM
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Oh no, a man somewhere has decided women his own age are gross and horrible and only much younger women are acceptable to him? This has never happened before in all of human history! Men before you have always adored women aging! 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 01:17 PM
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Well he still is losing out to straight up losers that have nothing to offer. He’s not trying at all. Would you want to date a woman who had as little time and interest in dating as he does. I see men here complain all the time about “career women”, so why do you think it is so deeply unfair that most women don’t want to chase down a man who will be willing and able to spend 30 minutes with her every two weeks? I just totally fail to see why it’s so unfair that he’s “losing” at a game he’s not e…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:16 PM
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So again, your real complaint is that you want the women who want hot men the same way you have always entirely focused on looks yourself. 🎻
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:21 PM
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Women REQUIRE this type of BS to even GIVE YOU A SHOT So it’s stupid BS if she wants the exact same thing you want. Ok. 🥂 I'm always impressed by a woman who is impressed by me. lol, obviously you’re not, since you literally just said the very idea being impressed with her is nothing but BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:36 PM
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Women describe it has a warm feeling in their tummies, ie, TINGLES. Eugh, why are you using toddler words like “tummies” to describe sexual desire? I don’t buy that you’ve spoken to multiple women who all said stuff like “when I want to fuck a man it’s like I have tingly feelings in my tumtum, teehee!”. The reality is that the word “tingles” is far more commonly used by red pill men to insult and mock women’s sexual attraction. It’s like you dudes want to fuck a bored starfish— the idea of a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:03 PM
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Yeah, that’s fair enough, I didn’t catch that he’s European, so the debt wouldn’t be so high. He still picked a career where it’s extremely well known that he wouldn’t have loads of free time for dating, but he wouldn’t also be neck deep in debt. Just still broke and lacking in free time. And honestly, his prioritization of everything over romance suggests no matter what career path he picked, he’d likely find some excuse to avoid trying. (Edit to add: this isn’t a criticism of your comment! I r…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 02:31 PM
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Women will fuck broke ass LOW class fry cooks if he makes her giggle right at the bar. Ah, so your complaint is that women today treat men the same way men have always treated women. Hmmm. In the past women had a sense of self respect and class when it came to the men that they fucked. Not so much anymore. Tell me, how do you show self-respect and restraint in who you choose to fuck? Do you diligently suppress your desire for a hot sexually appealing woman who make you “giggle” right at the bar,…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:30 PM
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Yeah unfrtonly that is basically nice guys finish last at play. What gives you the impression that Mr. “Everyone who isn’t making bank is a lowly deadbeat too lazy to pull himself up by his bootstraps” is any kind of “nice”?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:07 PM
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Surgeons are disproportionately psychopaths, so maybe that’s where the OP is vibing with the selfishness and lack of gratitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:02 PM
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How often do you talk to random women about “her tingles”? Did you tell all her about your tingles for hotter women than her too? I’ve talked to a lot of women, and none of them have blathered about this kind of shit. I dunno, maybe it’s that none of them have ever fucked an “impressive man”, whatever that means to you. But like… most women aren’t this obsessed with ranking men as superior versus inferior. That competitive obsession with who is better than who itself is very very masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 01:43 AM
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My “favorite” part is how he calls anyone stuck in a dead end job a “deadbeat”. Like he’s bitching about how “the system” has got him down so bad cuz he’s in med school and someone told him to prioritize meeting people in real life to have friends and a hobby… but then he turns around and tells the real poors they’re deadbeats for not pulling themselves up by their own bootstraps and going to med school or getting a “real job”. He whines at the end about how “you fucked the economy and you got a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 01:24 AM
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YOU've already fucked the economy for us. YOU benefit from the system. A lot of the people giving this advice also already got fucked by the system. You are the one choosing to prioritize your career over a relationship— other people prioritized meeting people and dating over hyper-focusing on their career. You’re the exact same of the “career woman” that men here love to bitch about as being undesirable because she’s choosing career over being a girlfriend. But they do have some point— you are …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 01:20 AM
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Being told to "get a hobby" doesn't help when you don't have the time to invest in the hobby, and most "social" hobbies are locked behind paywalls. And telling women, who are equally struggling in the exact same economy, to just hunt him down is not going to help him even less. There is no way for us plebes to fix the system, so the advice “get a hobby so you can at least meet some women who might be willing to date you” is far better advice than “well, you’re right, the economy sucks and you do…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 01:03 AM
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I’ll never understand why men here seem to focus entirely on that Becasue that is how the men here think themselves: they are always neurotically systematizing and categorizing and comparing everything. They are constantly decision which woman is a 6.75/10 versus a 6.78, who was the best lay, who is the hottest, whi made them feel the best, etc etc. They are projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:53 AM
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Men deserve to know that being the safe choice often means being the second-best choice, permanently. Surely this logic applies to men even more— men are far more obsessed with sex than women are, and very often view loosing their own virginity as their very gateway to being a “real man”. Surely it’s actually men who view their first sexual partner as the greatest, most memorable partner, the one to whom all other women are compared to and are lacking. The reason so many men assume women are obs…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:50 AM
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A woman being a virgin displays mental strength, an ability to resist temptation. Lol, and yet red pillers hate strong independent women more than any other women. Haha. And if you really believed that, then you’d also believe a man being a slut shows he is weak and gluttonous and lacks the ability to resist temptation. Funny you red pill guys are so gung-ho at being as weak as possible, given you think virginity is such an incredible display of strength and superiority. And funny how little res…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 01:57 PM
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RP doesn’t say marriage is beta just because you feel that way or because someone somewhere said it. It’s a praxeology, not a prescription 🙄 nice try with the feels, but no, I didn’t say anything prescriptive. Again, I did not claim that red pill says “you cannot get married” (prescription). I said that redpill argues that the act marriage is fundamentally beta (descriptive). And it is, by their definition— marriage is an act of providing safety, stability, and long term comfort to a partner. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:52 AM
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These aren’t descriptors of individuals In regular usage by redpillers, they are absolutely descriptors of individuals. Usage defines language, not you. And as far as archetypes go, the act of marriage is considered, by red pill, to be the quintessential beta act. To marry is to be a submissive beta cuck. I think RP tells men, accurately, that marriage is a subpar deal for most men You’re leaving out the key part. RP tells men that marriage is a subpar deal for men because women are inherently n…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:14 AM
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I’d say to get off of YouTube clickbait. Red pill is primarily comprised of the subreddits and a bunch of grifter, monetizing clickbait. But to say you can’t be married and be RP is very misguided. I did not say you can’t be married and red pill. You are arguing a strawman. I said that red pill argues that marriage is for beta cucks, not alphas. Red pill argues that women do not need marriage to put out for an alpha, and that marriage is a trap for beta men so women can exploit them for their re…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 06:18 PM
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Would it then logically follow then that being single is a good thing? After all a proportion of women won't be able to bag commitment from the limited supply of good men. Well, on this sub at least, there’s a contingent of men who want women to commit to the asshole men to prevent the apocalypse or something. Like there are guys here whose favorite message is something like: “if nobody gives those unwanted men lots of docile obedient pretty wives, then those men will not defend you uppity weste…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 02:26 PM
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I thought the red pill view was that it is totally beta for a man to be married, and men only ever get married because they don’t have any good options for hot casual sex with younger women? An “alpha” is a dude who fucks around and doesn’t settle for a boring old wifey. So how could a woman be “alpha widowed” by a man who got married?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 02:16 PM
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At first you were saying that I believe sex ruins women and that my wife was ruined. I contradicted that by specifying I believe that decisions ruin women, not sex itself, then you agreed with me. Those two things are not in conflict. You believe that the decision to have sex with the “wrong” man ruins a woman… which is the same thing functionally as believing sex ruins a woman. And unwisely, your woman chose to have sex with a pumper-and-dumper. You haven’t shown any level of respect for her in…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 01:27 PM
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Lol so you’re already admitting you were wrong. I see you’re just making up nonsense now. I have not changed what I said— I said from the start that slutty guys obsessed with virginity are bad partners and a bad role model for boys. They are not good marriage or father material. They’re obsessed with fucking women they don’t love or respect, and they think the very thing they do to women makes those woke unworthy of love or respect. In other words, guys like that are a rotten decision. Avoiding …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 06:06 PM
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don’t think sex itself ruins women. That’s ridiculous. I think bad decisions ruin women. Example: They fuck a guy thinking he will stay, but he’s just pumping and dumping, so she gets upset and goes hoe phase) Exactly: bad decisions like foolishly dating a man who has a track record of pumping and dumping, and who even brags about fucking women and throwing them away. A man like that is not trustworthy and never will be— he’s always going to be on the lookout for a new pussy to trash. Lol, quick…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 08:54 AM
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So you think giving factual answers to questions amounts to misogyny. No. Quote where I said stating a fact when asked a question is “misogyny”. You can’t because you made that up. Lol for someone who claims to care sooooo much about facts, you sure do like to make up bullshit to satisfy your whining feelings. But in your mind, you think that you can read his mind Why are you trying to read my mind? I don’t think I can read his mind, and I didn’t say I could. What I actually said was that what h…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:43 PM
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I actually don’t have a bonding issue. I got lucky, I guess. I mean, you think sex ruins women, then you went out of your way to ruin lots of them. You probably think your own wife is ruined too. Can’t be a good bond when sex is just a way to enjoy hurting a woman. 🤷‍♀️ The standard is different for men. I set a good example for my son. You set a terrible example: of a man who thinks women are ruined by sex and yet seeks to ruin as many women as he possibly can. Immoral and hateful. No self-resp…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:37 PM
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I am aware he was asked a question. If you weren’t so determined to throw a little tantrum, you would have paid attention to another comment of mine that you yourself responded to with another of your little hissy fits. In that comment, I fully acknowledge that McEnroe gave a perfectly reasonable answer. Why are you incapable of accepting the basic fact that I wrote exactly the opposite of whatever nonsense you’re whining about here?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:26 PM
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You seem to be the one crashing out, considering you blasted me with like 3 replies in a row. I don’t know why women’s sports gets you so upset, but if the discussion is about women’s sports and you feel the need to pop in and be like “actually women’s sports are lame and terrible! Boys rule girls drool!!”… then yeah, you have some kind of obsession with shitting on women. I don’t know why your world revolves around shitting on women, but it seems to be just a you thing. Maybe find a better hobb…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:13 PM
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You’re still trolling. It’s boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:09 PM
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I said nothing about men or their motivations in general. The topic is very specifically about men who do a very specific thing. Weird you’re so focused on finding some way to feel offended that you are struggling to read the words actually written there. If the discussion is entirely about women’s sports, and a dude jumps in to beep and boop about his negative opinions about women’s sports… his motivation is definitely about shitting on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:08 PM
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Womens' sports are neither of those things. Nobody is forcing you to watch, yet here you are obsessing about it. Women just can't help themselves. Nobody is forcing you to embarrass yourself by pursuing women if you think women are such worthless shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:04 PM
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Yeah, seems about right your spirit animal is a hyper emotional slave owner.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:54 PM
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I’m not “upset”. Don’t project your own emotional bullshit at me just because you’re too lazy to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 01:04 PM
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I agree that you did not read my comment and instead made up bullshit lies about what I said to push your own agenda. But I’m curious: why did you make up lies about me? You even attacked me personally with those lies, claiming “what you really want is validation and forced respect against facts” and that I was looking for “ego worship”. If you claim to care so much about the truth, then why did you make up lies so you could shit on me personally?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 12:25 PM
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the Titanic Famously, on the Titanic, there was one elderly rich couple where the husband tried to get his wife to take the lifeboat seat, she refused saying “where you go, I go”. The wife then gave her fur coat to their maid and gave her the spot instead. They both went down with the ship together.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:24 AM
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Can you imagine being the best in your own competition but then swimming against better competition and getting beat by 15 seconds by the worst male swimmer in the contest when normally these contests are won and lost by mere milliseconds? How embarrassing lmao. And those men would be embarrassed completely by racing a tuna. Sports exist because they are fun to do and fun to watch, and no other reason. We break people into fair categories because that is more fun to play and more fun to watch. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:14 AM
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If you don’t care, then why are you even asking me this over and over? Besides, lol, it doesn’t matter how I answer: you’re just going to make up more stupid lies about whatever I say anyways. You don’t care about the truth at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:00 AM
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Women are not men. Why do you insist that women should be men? Women are not physically the same and men are not physically the same as chimpanzee males— we do actualy have different dna and different physical features and different hormone profiles. And funny… those physical differences between the sexes are suddenly incredibly, all-consumingly important when you dudes are considering who you want to fuck. So why do you insist on shitting on women for not being physically identical to men when …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 01:43 AM
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So you cannot quote me. You clearly do not care about facts one tiny little bit. But obviously your whining mattered quite a lot to you, or you wouldn’t be here lying and grinding your little axe.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 01:35 AM
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The point is there is no plausible argument you have to say that Serena Williams is the best tennis player or therefore to disagree with John McEnroe mentioned in the OP. Yes. I literally agree with him. Why are you lying and claiming I didn’t? So you therefore must logically agree with him when he says Serena Williams isn’t the best. … I literally agreed with him. Are you not a native english speaker or something, or are you just incredibly determined to be dishonest? I literally said it is wei…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 09:11 PM
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And any horse (mares included) or greyhound or cheetah or gazelle or any dozen of other animals can easily outperform a man in running. So is Usain Bolt’s record a complete joke to you too? Or do you just naturally respect men and find a reason to shit on everyone who isn’t a human mar?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 09:02 PM
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Meh. But where is the meaning in saying Serena is the best, if she can’t beat the top men? That would mean she’s not the best. It looks like you didn’t bother reading my comment. I literally said that already. Let me quote it for you again, since you are struggling: Kinda weird to say someone who wouldn’t beat a lot of tennis players is the best tennis player of all time So now: Seems like what you really want is validation and forced respect against facts. Where exactly did I deny any facts? Qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:37 PM
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Yes you can discuss the accomplishments of female athletes without saying men are better. With the people who bring up men’s athletics being superior to women’s in a discussion about women’s achievements… the disrespect is the whole fucking point.. The goal is to put those uppity women in their place. So no, for those people, they can’t have a discussion about women’s achievements because their goal is to discredit women’s achievements and put women down. They want to shit on women and tell wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 05:45 PM
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Considering he himself slept around a bunch, he also doesn’t have the same values as the virgin women he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 12:15 PM
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they bond better due to less/no previous problems. And you bond worse due to past problems. If you actually valued bonding and virginity, you’d have done that yourself. I want a daughter someday, and she should have a good role model to look up to as her mom And yet you failed entirely to be a good role model yourself. You fucked around like a slut, dude. the non-virgins I used to fck usually had some kind of insecurity. It was always, “I feel like I’m not good enough” Sounds like projection to …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 11:11 PM
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Conservative men by and large would be more than happy to do that if women held up their end. I think history and a wide variety of cultures demonstrate pretty clearly that men in conservative cultures don’t particularly respect women holding up “their end”. Women were systematically excluded from society and ignored across history and cultures for “holding up their end”. Men historically wrote quite extensively about how profoundly little they respect women for holding up their end, explicitly …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:46 AM
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What would that "cooperation" look like, in your eyes? Not retaliating and defending every asshole move by saying “they started it” would be a great start. Does it require men to condemn every perceived negative interaction with women since the dawn of civilization? Or is it something more severe? You didn’t “not condemn” them, you excused and defended simple bigotry. That’s rather more severe, don’t you think? I’m also not a big fan of people asking serious questions and then proposing that my …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:31 AM
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