bagoonga Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
9	Indispensable tip for getting a woman to like you		bagoonga	/r/seduction	07/04/16 04:27 PM

Upvotes	Comment on	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
1	if women don't like bad boys Okay	/r/ExRedPill	13/02/21 06:10 AM
1	if women don't like bad boys The truth is the truth even if no one believes it.	/r/ExRedPill	12/02/21 11:20 PM
1	if women don't like bad boys I’m a hermit. I have done more than enough introspection.	/r/ExRedPill	12/02/21 10:29 PM
3	if women don't like bad boys I watch a lot of violent anime but I don’t want to awaken giant demons to attack the world.	/r/ExRedPill	12/02/21 04:05 PM
6	if women don't like bad boys The funny part of this is being an asshole is like the #1 reason people get broken up with. It's not that being an asshole draws people in, it's that they don't know they're an asshole until later.	/r/ExRedPill	12/02/21 04:02 PM
3	if women don't like bad boys Nope. The comment you replied to missed what it really is: shitty people are more comfortable putting themselves out there because they don’t care about possibly bothering someone. You know who never asks themselves if someone would be fine with them approaching them? Assholes. They just do it.	/r/ExRedPill	12/02/21 03:59 PM
1	Fear of rejection can lead to more rejection Oh, it's much more common than it appears. Awkward and off-putting behavior are very often the result of insecurity or a person's fear to be hurt in the relationship. Nope. It's more often bad social skills. The fear of being hurt comes after actually being hurt from being rejected due to one's awkwardness. Why would someone who has never had their fear get them rejected decide to feel scared for no reason when they've literally had no experiences to be afraid of? If fear or lack thereof defines…	/r/ExRedPill	11/02/21 05:11 AM
4	Fear of rejection can lead to more rejection Agreed. That's why they're so obsessed with "universally" attractive masculine archetypes. Because of their lack of social skill, they don't understand people are mostly attracted to individuality. Of course being liked isn't as simple as just being yourself and social skill is necessary, but ultimately actual connection doesn't happen without individuality.	/r/ExRedPill	11/02/21 03:41 AM
9	Fear of rejection can lead to more rejection I think this isn’t nearly as common a problem as people think. People don’t usually get rejected because of fear, but for awkward and/or off-putting behavior. The fear comes from experiencing rejection more than others do. Also, self-esteem and believing others can like you can be entirely separate issues. Just because you don’t believe someone can like you doesn’t mean you don’t like yourself. People turn to the redpill because there’s a common misconception that being happy, confident, and nic…	/r/ExRedPill	11/02/21 12:50 AM
5	CMV: The more high value the man is , the more likely he is to want a woman with a good job In case you're actually serious and this isn't a joke, I am not saying every single man is the way I described. I'm talking about trends. Educated people tend to marry educated people. I did not command every single male who reads the post to do it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/21 08:36 PM
3	CMV: The more high value the man is , the more likely he is to want a woman with a good job No, because you use stupid semantic arguments.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/21 08:25 PM
4	CMV: The more high value the man is , the more likely he is to want a woman with a good job That doesn't change the fact that the more educated a man is, the more likely he is to want a woman with a good job.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/21 08:06 PM
4	CMV: The more high value the man is , the more likely he is to want a woman with a good job It's not backpedaling at all. You read in meaning that wasn't there and it was pointed out, and you didn't understand it so I pointed out how stupid you were for not understanding it. Have fun declaring yourself the winner, though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/21 07:53 PM
9	CMV: The more high value the man is , the more likely he is to want a woman with a good job Since you can't understand that someone can talk in general terms without explicitly meaning every single man in the world is like that, I can see why you'd be intimidated by women who understand complex subjects.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/21 07:50 PM
4	CMV: The more high value the man is , the more likely he is to want a woman with a good job Good for you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/21 07:47 PM
2	CMV: The more high value the man is , the more likely he is to want a woman with a good job What is done with the education matters, though. Some women get masters' degrees and pick low-paying jobs, and there are others who are more ambitious. It's the 21st century and women can make their own money now. It's more fun to make money and have a partner who makes money, too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/21 07:43 PM
35	CMV: The more high value the man is , the more likely he is to want a woman with a good job I'm a dude and this is wrong as hell. Smart women are far less boring than stupid women. Any guy who wants to date down in intelligence level is a loser who's intimidated by intelligent women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/21 07:31 PM
24	CMV: The more high value the man is , the more likely he is to want a woman with a good job Lol. No. I'm about to have a STEM degree and I sure as hell want someone with more education than a daycare teacher. People tend to marry at their education level. Do you honestly think any guy who has worked hard to understand a complex subject wants a woman who hasn't done the same? It's not all about hotness because there are hot women of all intelligence levels. Many men don't stop at hotness and want a person they actually enjoy being around. Believe it or not, not that many guys are slobbe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/21 07:29 PM
2	Something my husband and I discussed, wanted to know if you all see this as well... Did I say they were at the same level as redpill?	/r/ExRedPill	31/01/21 09:04 PM
2	Something my husband and I discussed, wanted to know if you all see this as well... /r/femaledatingstrategy Some of it is legit stuff about what red flags to avoid in men, and some of it is just sexist.	/r/ExRedPill	31/01/21 08:29 PM
5	Something my husband and I discussed, wanted to know if you all see this as well... I don’t think it’s economic so much as there’s a whole generation with more basement dwellers than any other. It took a lot more to be a shut-in before the internet and social media. Lots of men and women lack experience being friends with and dating the opposite sex and are prone to generalized, outrage-fueled views about them. For men it takes the form of longing for more sexist times and convincing themselves misogyny is natural and better, and for women it’s a backlash to the former that can…	/r/ExRedPill	31/01/21 06:51 PM
3	Which gender likes the other one more in aggregate? Men are encouraged to act thirstier and women are encouraged to act modest, and on the other hand women tend to grow out of the “they’re pretty, therefore I like them” mindset earlier than men. On the one hand guys complain more about not getting laid. But women complain more about feeling connections that only exist on their end. I would argue women have about the same sex drive as men, they just usually don’t talk about it as much.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/21 08:25 PM
1	Just because women have more access to sex doesn't mean they have more access to SEXUAL PLEASURE If you're a guy, sex has never been anything but pleasure for you. Just because men don’t deal with the same level of issues women deal with surrounding sex doesn’t mean men always find sex pleasurable. Not as bad /= always good. Ironic how you lecture men about not understanding women using a false generalization about men. It is possible to be hard and cum and not enjoy it as a heterosexual man having sex with a woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/21 06:12 AM
2	Do you feel that the Red pill has anything good advice? It has tidbits of good advice, but it’s not stuff that proves their theories. And all of it is stuff that is common sense to anyone whose social skills aren’t horrendous. Like how exercising makes men more attractive. No shit. The same applies to women. Humans aren’t supposed to be sedentary. It’s not a revelation. Or standing up for yourself, or having self-confidence, or actually trying at your hobbies, or becoming a well-rounded, interesting person. Those are all things people normally do whe…	/r/ExRedPill	22/01/21 03:39 PM
8	Harassment They’re just salty because believing half the human race is a bunch of conniving whores makes it impossible to experience love.	/r/ExRedPill	19/01/21 04:03 PM
1	When people blame single men for their lack of “ going outside “, what counts as going outside ? Male thirstiness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/21 09:17 PM
2	When people blame single men for their lack of “ going outside “, what counts as going outside ? Making fun of someone for going to a gathering alone is more taboo than going to one alone. No one’s ever said anything to me about it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/21 09:14 PM
6	Is it possible for women/men to have strictly platonic friends of the opposite sex? Would you consider dating a girl with a lot of guy friends, and vice versa? Yes. Just don’t be a creepy, sex-obsessed goblin. Make friends for literally the same reasons you do with your own sex, just with the opposite sex. If you have other criteria for friends besides “is my gender,” you can do it. I don’t get why this is so hard for people. I’ve been friends with women I found attractive but wasn’t attracted to sexually because they were my friend and the nature of our relationship would make that gross. Not every guy gets aroused at every single aesthetically-pleasi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/21 06:18 AM
6	When people blame single men for their lack of “ going outside “, what counts as going outside ? When I tell people to go outside it’s because they talk about people in highly general ways that do not account whatsoever for individuality. From that it’s very obvious that they don’t have much experience at all with people. For example, when guys say “any guy would lower their standards to get laid but women never do that.” It obviously shows they don’t know men can be every bit as picky as women. It’s common for people to place an almost sacred value on sex with women and treat women like ke…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/21 06:06 AM
12	trying to spitout the redpill yet concerned it may be accurate Most of redpill is incorrect generalizations about the animal kingdom or cherrypicked things from different animals used to argue humans are a certain way. I feel like for people who don’t have basic background knowledge in any of the relevant fields, it’s easy to fall for redpill buzzword salads.	/r/ExRedPill	11/01/21 11:58 PM
2	The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to. Men are the same way, unless they’re desperate. It’s an instant turnoff to me when a woman has no hobbies or skills besides their job.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/21 05:17 PM
4	Do men in these modern times want to be breadwinners? https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/05/190520115646.htm You can nurse and still walk around. You don’t have to stay at home.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/21 12:47 AM
4	Real MGTOWs exist, but you won't find them on any sub that revolves around women I’m kind of one half the time. I’m not good at meeting people outside a platonic context, so I’ve been in a dry spell. Sometimes I put forth minimum effort to get out of it, and other times I stop all efforts and just do my thing.	/r/ExRedPill	08/01/21 12:20 AM
17	Do men in these modern times want to be breadwinners? A lot honestly wouldn’t mind being stay at home dads. I knew one who said at first he was worried the other fathers at his kids’ schools would look down on him, but then he found out most were actually jealous. The whole breadwinner thing is not a natural human thing. The way hunter-gatherers do things is one person or a group will get stuff for everyone. They take a share for themselves, but most of it goes to the village. It sounds weird to us, but they didn’t have refrigeration and it took th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/21 09:22 PM
1	You know women screwed themselves over when even the superman is afraid to chase women. No, I was talking about stuff millions of years ago. The way people determine air composition millions of years ago is through radioactive decay and there are a few methods to determine composition of substances. You just know nothing about it so you think it’s people making stuff up. The change in the past century is man-made. We know there is more CO2 and methane in the atmosphere.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/21 06:35 PM
3	You know women screwed themselves over when even the superman is afraid to chase women. You have no idea what you’re talking about. The temperature changed in the past, over much longer periods of time, and because the composition of the air changed. It’s changing faster now because the composition is changing faster. We know this because we know what specific heat and heat capacity are and have found ancient air bubbles trapped in ancient mud. We know increasing methane, CO2, and water vapor in the air increases the heat it can hold. We know more of those are consistently put into…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/21 03:47 PM
-2	You know women screwed themselves over when even the superman is afraid to chase women. Right, I totally forgot that fake psychology was an offshoot of thermochemistry. I’m a biochemistry major. You probably wouldn’t understand the first thing about how people know climate change is happening and is man-made. You learn about it in intro chem courses.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/21 05:52 AM
4	You know women screwed themselves over when even the superman is afraid to chase women. Not if you’re the type of beta that ends up redpill. The reason they think women are out to manipulate all men is because their spineless ass attracts those types. But oh wait, they learned to not be spineless because they read fake science and have misogynistic circle jerks on the internet and remind themselves women can have the same flaws men do like it’s a revelation to everyone who isn’t a basement dweller. They’re so thirsty they act like pussy commands great power to play games with men l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/21 04:42 AM
3	My stance on red pill I feel like with casual sex it’s the same level of ease for men and women when you get to average level of attractiveness and social skill and higher. Putting in the effort to initiate really isn’t a big deal when you’re successful enough. Women can wait to be approached, but that is actually more limiting because it’s waiting for someone else to act. When someone approaches, they can do it whenever they want to. A guy with a decent success rate can easily go over the amount of sex a conventiona…	/r/ExRedPill	18/12/20 04:29 PM
5	Anxiety caused by black/redpill Honestly I find looking into that stuff helps me because seeing how pointlessly picky other people can be really puts stuff into perspective for me. I’m just like “so you think everyone who doesn’t have these highly specific cookie-cutter features is ugly? Well, sucks for you.” Besides, a lot of attractiveness is classist notions of presentability anyway. I’m not trying to discount anxiety people experience. I’m just giving a perspective.	/r/ExRedPill	03/12/20 01:44 PM
5	Read FDS content to balance yourself out Some of the content is like a female equivalent of redpill and I find it fascinating. Men are insecure and have inflated egos and are irrational and hypergamous. Withholding validation and affection makes them respect and want you more. They subtly test you to see if you’re worthy and if you don’t pass, they won’t want you. If you don’t control them, another woman will, etc. It’s really just insecure people projecting their insecurity and discussing how to prey on other insecure people.	/r/ExRedPill	02/12/20 03:15 PM
5	What was your something feels off moment, with the redpill? I’m pretty sure the reason they think all women are insecure and manipulative is because those are the only women who don’t avoid them like the plague.	/r/ExRedPill	30/11/20 05:55 PM
1	Young men are not being "radicalized" by random men on the internet; their views/opinions are much more so being forged by what women themselves directly say on social media and other public forums. I don’t know why you think insisting you’re right means anything.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/20 10:40 PM
0	Young men are not being "radicalized" by random men on the internet; their views/opinions are much more so being forged by what women themselves directly say on social media and other public forums. You could apply the same logic to men. Have you ever had a female friend before? I’m guessing not. I’ve had rewarding friendships that weren’t just about meeting women. If there’s more to your life than dating and having sex, then there’s reasons to be friends with a woman. Try having interests other than getting a girlfriend or laid. And not all of them just complain. And it’s ironic that that’s a gripe you have when lots of guys whine on this sub about how shitty they think women are and how h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/20 05:21 PM
1	Young men are not being "radicalized" by random men on the internet; their views/opinions are much more so being forged by what women themselves directly say on social media and other public forums. Why would different individuals have consistent standards? Men don’t have consistent standards, either. And OLD only allows women to be more picky because it’s mostly men, and I think all the guys who complain about it would do the same thing in their position. And men do the same thing in OLD. Men who get a lot of matches tend to have this impatient “please me right away or I’m done with you” attitude.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/20 01:30 PM
3	Young men are not being "radicalized" by random men on the internet; their views/opinions are much more so being forged by what women themselves directly say on social media and other public forums. But many men also aren’t taught that, or they are and realize it’s bullshit without getting into fake science that misuse the term “alpha.” It’s pretty much common knowledge that attraction and compatibility are the most important things to most people. When people say they wanna meet someone nice, it’s like a generic “not shitty.” It’s a bare minimum to prevent disqualification, not something meant to get anyone’s foot in the door.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/20 03:34 AM
2	Young men are not being "radicalized" by random men on the internet; their views/opinions are much more so being forged by what women themselves directly say on social media and other public forums. It’s just projection. TRP guys have an unhealthy obsession with sex that is also tied to validation, and they project it onto women. So in their minds, it’s only reasonable that any woman would be as much of a whore as possible if they could. They haven’t experienced a mindset where relationships are more pleasurable than the novelty of sex with new partners all the time, so they think it’s a lie. In reality, most monogamous people have a level of attraction which is fully satisfying if they als…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/20 03:24 AM
4	Young men are not being "radicalized" by random men on the internet; their views/opinions are much more so being forged by what women themselves directly say on social media and other public forums. Nothing. I didn’t imply they did. I’m just saying if you can be friends with a guy, why not a woman? It’s just an arbitrary division to make unless you see no value in friendship with women for an arbitrary reason.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 08:15 PM
1	Young men are not being "radicalized" by random men on the internet; their views/opinions are much more so being forged by what women themselves directly say on social media and other public forums. If someone tells you that, you better get out of that cornfield because that’s a straw man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 08:04 PM
2	Young men are not being "radicalized" by random men on the internet; their views/opinions are much more so being forged by what women themselves directly say on social media and other public forums. These people find stuff even most feminists don’t know about. It’s wild seeing crazy opinions from people you’ve never heard of presented like they’re cultural icons. I feel like some people have a hateful obsession with feminism and dig into the depths of writings from different feminists for something to get outraged about, and what they dig up is esoteric stuff that is largely disagreed with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 08:02 PM
2	Young men are not being "radicalized" by random men on the internet; their views/opinions are much more so being forged by what women themselves directly say on social media and other public forums. No gaslightning. You’re definitely pretending. Do you think you’re the only person who goes outside and knows people? I’ve known loads of women who are nothing like that. It’s only guys who don’t know any who even have ridiculous general thoughts like that. And it’s not unreasonable to assume someone who doesn’t get a very basic thing that people who have social skills understand doesn’t get laid. I mean unless they pay for it. Congratulations on understanding “the game” by the way. It’s ridicul…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 03:08 PM
8	Young men are not being "radicalized" by random men on the internet; their views/opinions are much more so being forged by what women themselves directly say on social media and other public forums. You need to find better female friends. That hasn’t been my experience at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 02:59 PM
6	Young men are not being "radicalized" by random men on the internet; their views/opinions are much more so being forged by what women themselves directly say on social media and other public forums. More like people naive enough to generalize about all women find safe spaces where they can pretend their generalizations are true without dissent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 02:54 PM
3	Young men are not being "radicalized" by random men on the internet; their views/opinions are much more so being forged by what women themselves directly say on social media and other public forums. Because of all the ridiculous negative generalizations about women and all the whining about it and how hard it is for men who aren’t super good looking. People who have sex have enough real-world experience to not generalize about an entire generation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 02:47 PM
1	Young men are not being "radicalized" by random men on the internet; their views/opinions are much more so being forged by what women themselves directly say on social media and other public forums. More like when you pretend an entire generation is that way, it’s easy to be sexless and bitter.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 02:09 PM
1	Young men are not being "radicalized" by random men on the internet; their views/opinions are much more so being forged by what women themselves directly say on social media and other public forums. I'm pointing out that increases of people coming onto internet forums does not mean increases in a total number of something in real life. You need more to actually prove your point. Whether you agree or not is irrelevant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 01:22 PM
5	Young men are not being "radicalized" by random men on the internet; their views/opinions are much more so being forged by what women themselves directly say on social media and other public forums. Seriously, it's so bizarre when people make these specific, weird, word-salads of complete bullshit using esoteric lingo and concepts with a delivery like they're pointing out something as plain and obvious as the sky being blue.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 01:00 PM
0	Young men are not being "radicalized" by random men on the internet; their views/opinions are much more so being forged by what women themselves directly say on social media and other public forums. Where's your data for all of your assumptions? And just because most people hate dating doesn't mean all of them are going onto reddit to complain about it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 12:58 PM
0	Young men are not being "radicalized" by random men on the internet; their views/opinions are much more so being forged by what women themselves directly say on social media and other public forums. The fact that these types of redpill/blackpill posts are now beginning to make great traction on subs that are typically vehemtly against manospheric ideology is telling in itself. Not really. People have been whining about this stuff for decades. It's really nothing new. Im not the only person who has realised this btw, "Realise" No, you mean you're not the only person who agrees with yourself. the men on r/IncelsWithoutHate have been noticing that more men are becoming redpilled/blackpilled be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 12:55 PM
-1	Young men are not being "radicalized" by random men on the internet; their views/opinions are much more so being forged by what women themselves directly say on social media and other public forums. How do you know more men are starting to think that way? It could just be that sexless men are congregating online more. Why would people who do fine with dating go on those subs? You're also assuming that those men represent all of sexless men. Not every guy who doesn't get laid whines about it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 12:31 PM
7	Young men are not being "radicalized" by random men on the internet; their views/opinions are much more so being forged by what women themselves directly say on social media and other public forums. No, they were lied to most of their life and told that women aren’t shallow (I don’t think there’s anything wrong with being shallow FYI) and that you just need to have a good personality and decent job to get a woman. Nah, you just had naive ideas about women and assume other men have them as well. Any guy who's had female friends knows they also care about looks. "You just need a decent personality and decent job" is a hopelessly naive attitude that people rarely have. Besides looks, you also …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 11:01 AM
9	Young men are not being "radicalized" by random men on the internet; their views/opinions are much more so being forged by what women themselves directly say on social media and other public forums. Finally some sanity in this thread. I'd also like to add, guys are told that their value is based on how much they date and how much sex they have, so they feel as though not getting laid or dating is a blow to their self-worth. Which is why they get so angry about women's standards being "too high." Translation: I'm angry women don't want me and it's more comforting for me to think they are being evil by making their standards too high than it is for me to admit I have not managed to attract an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 10:56 AM
0	Young men are not being "radicalized" by random men on the internet; their views/opinions are much more so being forged by what women themselves directly say on social media and other public forums. Young men are radicalized by their lack of social skill and experience which makes them naive enough to believe ridiculously simple generalizations about the sexes. They'll be like "modern women radicalized me by being too PC, having standards that are too high, having too much sex, etc." But then how do they explain other men who exist in the same society and don't get laid or whatever but aren't radicalized? Here's the explanation: lots of guys acknowledge the individuality and complexity of p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 10:46 AM
24	Young men are not being "radicalized" by random men on the internet; their views/opinions are much more so being forged by what women themselves directly say on social media and other public forums. People think feminazis are more prevalent than they are because they obsess over them on the internet. It's kinda funny to see. People will be like "we need to acknowledge that the crazy feminists are crazy" as if society doesn't do that already. You just don't hear much about how crazy radical feminism is from people outside the manosphere because they don't obsess over it. They look at crazy feminist rhetoric once, go "that's crazy" and move on without a second thought. They don't go on reddit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 10:40 AM
25	Young men are not being "radicalized" by random men on the internet; their views/opinions are much more so being forged by what women themselves directly say on social media and other public forums. I don’t even know why men want women beyond sex. The same reason people want anyone in their life besides sex. Presumably you want a relationship with your mother, sister, or grandmothers, but you don't want to fuck them, right? Guys who have women as friends have them for the same reason they have male friends: they click and they have stuff to talk about. It's really not that complicated. I'm a guy who likes anime, and I befriend people who also like anime. If a woman is into anime, our friend…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 10:32 AM
1	Young men are not being "radicalized" by random men on the internet; their views/opinions are much more so being forged by what women themselves directly say on social media and other public forums. What radicalizes guys is lacking experience with people and foolishly thinking whatever shitty women they meet represent all women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 10:30 AM
6	Young men are not being "radicalized" by random men on the internet; their views/opinions are much more so being forged by what women themselves directly say on social media and other public forums. So while it's easy to say the manosphere wants to control women, it's hypocritical considering how much control women and society place on men. Right, which is why there was a movement to allow men to vote and open their own bank accounts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 10:28 AM
3	After reading the book Secrets of a Passionate Marriage I realized one major flaw with red pill What resources could you possibly have that a professional woman couldn’t get herself?	/r/ExRedPill	26/11/20 01:03 PM
0	After reading the book Secrets of a Passionate Marriage I realized one major flaw with red pill No shit. With all that humans are capable of, you have to be pathetic for orgasms to give you a sense of purpose or superiority.	/r/ExRedPill	26/11/20 01:01 PM
1	Men who want to marry eventually need to raise their standards What you’re willing to bet means nothing. Prove it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/20 12:57 PM
1	Women are not 'complicated' - they almost always make it very obvious if they like a man It’s irrelevant, given it’s 1% and it doesn’t change the overall trend. It still proves men cheat more. Also I confused you with another guy arguing with the study on the basis of their experience.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/20 12:54 PM
1	Men who want to marry eventually need to raise their standards Nice hypothesis. Find a study to prove it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/20 12:24 PM
2	Women are not 'complicated' - they almost always make it very obvious if they like a man An actual study shows men cheat more. Also, you’re confusing polygamy with polyandry. Polygamous societies being more violent has nothing to do with the effects of women being promiscuous. You would look at polyandric societies for that, but there aren’t any. So your argument is self-contradictory (not to mention fallacious). You’re equating polygamy to cheating, but claiming it’s worse if women do it because polygamous societies are more violent, when those are societies where men have multiple…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/20 03:58 AM
1	Question for Men: What about having a partner whose company you enjoy? Right, so only guys who agree with your gishgalloping are self-aware.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/20 12:39 AM
1	Question for Men: What about having a partner whose company you enjoy? The reason they’re loaded questions is because you’re assuming an answer that’s implied in the question. Do you realize that fat people who like other fat people exist? And do you realize being a nice dude and being a jock are not mutually exclusive? Life isn’t a teen movie from the 80’s and 90’s.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/20 12:23 AM
2	Women are not 'complicated' - they almost always make it very obvious if they like a man Well, if you can’t find a source, your argument means nothing. Also, your values aren’t universal. A woman cheating on a man isn’t universally worse because you say so. That’s up to the people involved in the specific situations. A bunch of assumptions in a series is not an argument. It’s gishgalloping.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/20 10:42 PM
1	Men who want to marry eventually need to raise their standards That says nothing about divorce rate. You’re talking about rate of marriage per relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/20 09:13 PM
-3	Question for Men: What about having a partner whose company you enjoy? I wasn’t talking about flings and hookups. To all your loaded questions: literally none. Edit: It appears to make you guys salty when people don’t just hand you victory in a debate by agreeing with your loaded questions. Loaded questions is the stupidest form of sophistry. Do you expect someone who has reason to disagree with you to answer the way you expect? Try proving your points instead of implicitly pretending they’re self-evident.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/20 02:04 AM
5	Question for Men: What about having a partner whose company you enjoy? It’s not only about how nice or mean you are to everyone. That’s not something everyone focuses on first. What most people look for (besides sexual attraction) is whether or not they click, which is something that varies from person to person. You don’t have to pretend you don’t enjoy women’s personalities. You just have to find women you’re compatible with. Wanting to be liked is natural, and anyone who seeks someone who treats them badly (like someone who dislikes them would) has psychological…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/20 06:01 PM
1	Think RP has points but comes from a misunderstood place I’m convinced their interactions with women are few and far between and limited to narcissists who prey on their insecurity and insecure women who they prey on when they get into RP. It’s like they’ve never met a woman who disliked a guy for being an asshole, which is so common you’d have to have really limited experience to not realize it.	/r/ExRedPill	23/11/20 02:21 PM
4	CMV People on PPD suck at debate, mods are not doing enough to improve the quality of this sub Dude, I laughed so hard at “you make no effort, anyone understand why biology says that.” Said to someone who actually studied biology. These people have never been in a STEM program. I would pay to see someone try to argue TRP to a biology professor. Although I feel like it might be a letdown because the professor would probably get annoyed and leave.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/20 01:22 PM
3	CMV People on PPD suck at debate, mods are not doing enough to improve the quality of this sub I’m a biochem major and every time a sentence says “biology” in it I have to catch my eyes before I finish the sentence or they’ll roll right out. So many people don’t seem to realize that throwing the word “biology” into their argument doesn’t make it a good one. So many arguments are “[conclusion]. It’s biology.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/20 01:19 PM
3	CMV People on PPD suck at debate, mods are not doing enough to improve the quality of this sub Honestly, what do you expect? One ideology is built on anecdotes and cherrypicked psych studies and speculations about evolution, which is not a good foundation because psychology isn’t like chemistry or physics. There is a difference between the rigor of chemistry and of psychology or sociology. For one, you can actually have constant conditions in chemistry. Sulfuric acid will react the same way with water at a constant temperature and air pressure no matter what situation it’s in or where you…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/20 12:49 PM
1	Study: A minority of women do engage in af/bb dual mating strategy Ok. Moving the goalposts here. That point is irrelevant to whether or not men would choose to marry single mothers. Men do it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/20 09:42 PM
1	Study: A minority of women do engage in af/bb dual mating strategy You do realize your feeling about this isn’t an objective fact, right? Other people see it differently and their perspective is still valid. Just because you think raising a child that isn’t yours is thankless doesn’t mean all people do. Your feeling isn’t a fact.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/20 01:52 PM
1	Women are not 'complicated' - they almost always make it very obvious if they like a man Looks to me like your anecdote means nothing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/20 06:42 AM
1	Think RP has points but comes from a misunderstood place Every story I’ve read where they get laid seems fictional because they provide enough details to set a scene but the actual scene itself is vague and seems like it skips parts. You never get a rundown of any chemistry they had, it’s just this vague “I acted alpha in this specific situation and later had sex with them.” When people tell me about their hookups, they don’t provide a whole story of how alpha they acted to get there.	/r/ExRedPill	22/11/20 02:06 AM
3	Study: A minority of women do engage in af/bb dual mating strategy I think a lot of redpillers care about nothing else besides how attractive they find a woman, so the idea that other men care about things other than that is alien to them. I think it is lack of sexual experience combined with an obsession with sex that makes their entire perspective on dating sex-centered. They think women’s standards are so high because they’re comparing them to their own. This sub is full of complaining that men have to be exceptional to get laid or date and women just have t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/20 01:56 AM
1	Study: A minority of women do engage in af/bb dual mating strategy It’s all that’s necessary against a wall of generalizations about people who are not you based on you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/20 01:48 AM
1	Study: A minority of women do engage in af/bb dual mating strategy You don’t speak for all men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/20 11:46 PM
1	Study: A minority of women do engage in af/bb dual mating strategy People marry single mothers all the time because they like them. Some even have more children with them later. Not everyone views raising some else’s child as a “thankless task.” Ever heard of adoption? It’s not a thankless task for someone to love a child and give it a good life just because it doesn’t have their DNA.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/20 11:45 PM
3	Think RP has points but comes from a misunderstood place It’s because a lot of them are on the autism spectrum or they’re just basement dwellers with no social skills or experience. That’s why they have laughably inaccurate and simple interpretations of behavior, usually reflections of their insecurities. One I read recently is that playful teasing in flirting is a way women test a man’s value. And I’m like, or they’re just teasing you. “But that’s the reason why.” Nah, people tease people they like and you have to be insecure to think they’re secretl…	/r/ExRedPill	21/11/20 01:50 PM
3	Think RP has points but comes from a misunderstood place No one gets into redpill because they already got along with women.	/r/ExRedPill	21/11/20 01:41 PM
3	Think RP has points but comes from a misunderstood place Lack of social skills and experience with people + being hurt/used by shitty women + insecurity, then put these people in an echo chamber and they eventually come up with a solution that’s not grounded in reality because of their lack of social skills and experience with people. The fake science is a fantasy they use to pretend their ideology comes from somewhere besides their limited experience, feelings, and imagination. I debate these people sometimes and I stop when it’s too obvious they hav…	/r/ExRedPill	21/11/20 01:39 PM
2	Women misunderstand male psychology when they shit test You’re projecting. I know you are by experience.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/20 05:15 AM
4	Think RP has points but comes from a misunderstood place That’s the thing. The helpful stuff is insanely obvious, but I guess to someone in a vulnerable enough position to seek TRP it probably matters more that it comes from a source that appears helpful because that means someone else believes in them. It’s outweighed by the fact that their worldview is fictional and their advice for dating is to prey on the insecure. They model dating as a test of their “objective” value which only reinforces their insecurity more.	/r/ExRedPill	21/11/20 04:32 AM
3	Think RP has points but comes from a misunderstood place I think you’d be surprised the range of what different people are into. In the emo and hardcore scenes the men and women both tend to be feminine (by our culture’s standards anyway. Things like long hair and ear and facial piercings aren’t feminine in every culture) and they’re into each other. It’s not always that people seek the opposite of what they’re defined as by their culture.	/r/ExRedPill	21/11/20 04:28 AM
1	Women are not 'complicated' - they almost always make it very obvious if they like a man Ok? But this is a study that is far more rigorous than any redpill post on reddit. If you’re skeptical of that, but not anecdotes from internet strangers and fake science, that’s intellectually dishonest.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/20 10:46 PM
2	Women misunderstand male psychology when they shit test If you think that anyone but the most bottom-of-the-barrel insecure and manipulative people do that as a test, you need to get out more. I’ve literally had one girl do that to me and she was insecure af. We had an open relationship and she tried to make me jealous lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/20 10:43 PM
2	Women are not 'complicated' - they almost always make it very obvious if they like a man Find a source. A hypothetical with assumptions geared to lead to your chosen conclusion is not an argument.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/20 10:00 PM
1	Women are not 'complicated' - they almost always make it very obvious if they like a man People cheat for all kinds for reasons. There isn’t one simple gender-specific reason for cheating. And if it takes less effort women, then they would be doing more if they were hypergamous. So your argument is self-contradictory.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/20 07:36 PM
1	Women are not 'complicated' - they almost always make it very obvious if they like a man Except you are overthinking it by tacking assumptions about women’s motivations in general onto an act that can be done for other reasons. They can be checking if the guy likes them, rather than testing them to take the lead, check their social adeptness, be in control, etc. I’ve had women hint and then be more explicit later when I didn’t pick up on it. I wasn’t taking the lead at all there. They brought it up and told me they liked me. I’ve known women who actually prefer to pursue and don’t h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/20 04:33 PM
3	Women are not 'complicated' - they almost always make it very obvious if they like a man No person over the age of 12 cares about “loss of face in the female social matrix.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/20 04:26 PM
5	Women are not 'complicated' - they almost always make it very obvious if they like a man It’s so hard for me to reply to some of these “arguments” because they’re just streams of consciousness and gishgalloping that was obviously written by a basement dweller who has never known enough people (especially women) to understand individuality. I’m basically arguing with their imagination and feelings. They see the world through this lens of everything being a masculinity and femininity contest. In reality people who aren’t insecure don’t see relationships or sex as a contest or test of …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/20 04:20 PM
3	Women are not 'complicated' - they almost always make it very obvious if they like a man You don’t need to test for any of those things. You can literally just watch a person and ask them questions. Things like income are indicated in dating profiles or are things people know about before being interested in someone. That’s what people do. I know that sounds vague, but I don’t know what else to say because I’ve been friends with lots of women and I’ve had a few relationships. So I think I know way more about women than people who come up with overly simplified generalizations about …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/20 12:49 PM
3	Women are not 'complicated' - they almost always make it very obvious if they like a man “It’s true to me” is not an argument. Not everyone is fickle about everything. And the idea of women being more fickle than men when it comes to their partners does not hold up to scrutiny. https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/20 12:48 PM
4	Women are not 'complicated' - they almost always make it very obvious if they like a man Here you go. https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/20 12:47 PM
6	Women are not 'complicated' - they almost always make it very obvious if they like a man So do you think women are more fickle than men, or are naturally fickle? You said everything is shades of grey but you made a black-and-white statement by saying women’s interest is “extremely fickle and easily destroyed.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/20 06:02 AM
2	Fanfics in r/TheRedPill That’s why redpill is full of ridiculous, pointlessly elaborate interpretations of social interactions. They have a lack of social skill and experience and fill in the rest with a video game-esque logic that doesn’t fit. But they don’t realize it doesn’t fit. They’re too ignorant to understand how most people socialize and interpret one another so their understanding of it is fantastical. I used to have shitty social skills and I’m not great now, but I’ve come a long enough way to see how much u…	/r/ExRedPill	20/11/20 05:51 AM
4	Women are not 'complicated' - they almost always make it very obvious if they like a man Being uneasy about letting one’s crush know how they feel, but still wanting to show them indirectly is ridiculously common. Nearly universal tbh. People don’t use indirect flirting as a test because if you are even flirting with someone, you like them already and aren’t testing them for your affection. I think insecure men just imagine women are always testing their value over the most random pointless stuff that already has really obvious explanations. They’re always questioning their value to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/20 05:37 AM
10	Women are not 'complicated' - they almost always make it very obvious if they like a man I was pointing out a contradiction in your argument. Your argument didn’t offend me. It was just contradictory. I know redpill is based on anecdotes. That’s why it comes up with irrational things like the contradictory argument you gave. Just because people disagree with you doesn’t mean they feel attacked. I know it’s a convenient copout, though. I see in your edit you have written an entire narrative of a widespread thing you allege happens and have no proof of. And the thing you allege occurs…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/20 05:27 AM
9	Women are not 'complicated' - they almost always make it very obvious if they like a man Got it. So when a man’s interest in a woman wavers, it’s always the woman’s fault, but when a woman’s interest in a man wavers, it’s also the woman’s fault because that’s just how they are. Makes perfect sense. A more likely explanation is this idea of feminine fickleness is really just a reflection of insecurity on the part of men afraid they can’t hold a woman’s interest.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/20 05:19 AM
3	CMV; Redpill philosophy is based on pseudo science and has no empirically sound basis. As a biochemistry major, I’m curious what chemistry has to do at all with redpill. If you’re going to say hormones, that’s a bad explanation because the only understood links between human behavior and hormones are purely associations. Chemistry does not tell us how cortisol “makes” stress. We just know it’s there when people are stressed. That’s how far understanding of the brain and behavior goes. Whoever goes further and figures out stuff like why cortisol “makes” stress or why red wavelength…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/20 04:43 AM
3	Women are not 'complicated' - they almost always make it very obvious if they like a man If their interest is extremely fickle, then so is men’s because men cheat more than women. https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/20 04:36 AM
10	Women are not 'complicated' - they almost always make it very obvious if they like a man Finally some reason. Redpillers seem to be allergic to Occam’s razor. You take any pointless social situation with a simplistic, straightforward explanation and they can find some way to turn it into a masculinity test.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/20 04:34 AM
2	Women are not 'complicated' - they almost always make it very obvious if they like a man This has been the opposite of my experience so I feel bad for you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/20 04:32 AM
5	What was the thing that was easiest to recognize as BS when you left TRP Redpill tactics are meant for people as insecure as them. They’re centered on the idea that withholding interest and attention can create attraction by creating insecurity, which is only true for insecure people (like them) who see winning attraction as a test of their worth. The reality is, even the hottest women and men have to be delusional to not realize some people just aren’t attracted to them, and they have to be really insecure to care when it happens. After all the validation they get, …	/r/ExRedPill	19/11/20 09:03 PM
2	Women misunderstand male psychology when they shit test Only psychos do that. I’ve never met a woman that does anything like that. Also, what evidence do you have that seeing them in action doesn’t satisfy their lizard brain?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/20 09:13 PM
2	Women misunderstand male psychology when they shit test They don’t. I’ve met a lot who don’t because I don’t talk to ones who do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/20 05:52 PM
13	Fanfics in r/TheRedPill Yesterday this guy told me about how he can’t be friends with women because they get “psycho” when he questions them. He apparently asked one if they had a different opinion now on a religious matter than they had a couple years ago and they had a psycho reaction. And this happened more than once. It happened enough to make him a MGTOW. I think what really happened is he was an ass about it and he got put in his place. I’ve been an arrogant douchebag and met arrogant douchebags who shat on other…	/r/ExRedPill	18/11/20 05:19 PM
1	Do you feel any duty towards women, or towards children? No. I’m an individual and I don’t have any duties for existing and being male.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/20 04:36 PM
4	Women misunderstand male psychology when they shit test The biggest flaw is that shit testing is pointless for any man with self-respect because they don’t want women who shit test. Not all women have weird stupid ways to evaluate a man’s mental strength. You can do that from just knowing a person and seeing them in action. I think it’s really just a concept made up by people without social skills who have a naive misunderstanding of socializing and people’s motivations that colors their overanalysis of behavior.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/20 04:32 PM
2	How exactly do you go about focusing on yourself and not whether or not women find you attractive? I think this is the wrong thing to ask.Focusing on whether or not you’re found attractive isn’t necessarily bad. It can easily be, but it can also be handled in a detached way where it’s less about proving yourself and more about successfully making a connection. And not worrying whether you’re found attractive can be a recipe for disaster. People like to think not caring what others think improves their chances at being liked, but really it’s not being too much of a people-pleaser that helps. W…	/r/ExRedPill	17/11/20 03:06 AM
2	Have you ever noticed that Redpillers love to talk in circle? You’ll notice most of their arguments are “men and women are different in x way because men and women are different.” Why? Because men and women are different. Because apparently they’re both one dimensional and can’t still be different even if they have nearly everything in common. It’s like saying a muffin isn’t shaped like a cupcake because a muffin is not a cupcake. They are different things with a characteristic in common.	/r/ExRedPill	17/11/20 02:57 AM
1	Have you ever noticed that Redpillers love to talk in circle? That explains so much. So many “debates” feel like arguing with a video set on loop to me. They just keep saying the same stuff in more elaborate ways no matter what I say. It was like they weren’t comprehending what I was saying and they were not so much debating as preaching. Any requests for evidence get turned into hearing the same narrative in a more verbose and redundant way. It’s happened so many times.	/r/ExRedPill	17/11/20 02:51 AM
1	Do you believe hypergamy to be natural or up to the individual? It’s individual. People who think promiscuity is our most natural innate drive don’t know anything about humans outside of civilization. They think the hedonism of Western societies existed in amplified form in hunter-gatherers. But they miss a few things. Hunter-gatherers don’t have birth control. Everyone in their tribe knows them. Babies look like their dads. If you sleep around, people will find out, and you will be seen as a shit partner. For hunter-gatherers, the consequences are worse tha…	/r/ExRedPill	17/11/20 02:47 AM
1	Origins of hypergamy and Rusbut's Investment Model Hypergamy is just how incel guys imagine they would act if they could be promiscuous. When the novelty of sex wears off, no one in their right mind would trade consistently good sex and a good relationship for random sex quality with as many different people as possible. Even from a purely pleasure-seeking point of view it doesn’t make sense. There is more pleasure for most people in consistent, good relationships than lonely promiscuity. Instead of building memories, a life, and trust with some…	/r/ExRedPill	17/11/20 02:29 AM
5	Marriageable men do care about N-count Women aren’t unaware of themselves just because they disagree with your views about them. “Men see this more clearly.” Hahahahaha. There’s no substance here, just claiming “I’m right” over and over in different ways. All you have is assumptions backed up with more assumptions. You don’t prove anything. You just write a narrative. Speaking matter-of-factly doesn’t make things fact.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/20 10:42 PM
2	Is PUA a part of TRP? I think PUA is more broad. It isn’t just for heterosexual men, and it’s also open to non-traditional relationships.	/r/ExRedPill	16/11/20 08:53 PM
2	Why do redpillers think people who don't talk and act like them can't get laid? These are the same people who don’t know the difference between biology and their crackpot evopsych. They’re not exactly aware or well-read.	/r/ExRedPill	16/11/20 06:48 PM
3	Marriageable men do care about N-count Lol. I study biochemistry. You don’t know shit because you’re just throwing the word “biology” into an argument that you’re not even substantiating and instead are just pretending is self-evident. Differences in reproductive anatomy and implications for it does not necessarily mean different preferences with body count. You have to explain why this would lead to a difference in that specific preference, not just pretend it does and throw in the word “biology” without any evidence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/20 05:06 PM
2	Marriageable men do care about N-count Different in ways that matter for the purposes of the discussion, obviously. Genitalia isn’t the same as personality. Just because men and women are obviously different sexes doesn’t mean they have across-the-board differences in their preferences with body count. That’s why you have to prove there’s actually a difference in that category. “Men and women are not literally the same thing” isn’t an argument for it. Different sexes can want the same things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/20 03:36 PM
1	CMV: Maybe women have high standards because the average woman is really superior in terms of attractiveness than the average man Women have “high” standards for 2 reasons. They’re not taught to be desperate for sex and dates like men are, so they’re overall way less thirsty which makes it men the ones who are putting in more effort to initiate. They also tend to have deeper and more friendships, so there’s less of a need to make up for a lack of platonic relationships with romantic ones. Because men put in more effort to initiate conversations, women can devote more energy to being picky. But men can be just as picky. The…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/20 02:36 PM
6	Marriageable men do care about N-count Why do redpill people think “x is real” without anything to back it up is compelling? They do this a lot.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/20 02:28 PM
2	Marriageable men do care about N-count Are you going to explain why they’re different, or hope we just believe whatever you’re implying without stating it explicitly or backing it up?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/20 02:19 PM
8	After we broke up my ex was able to go on and have multiple flings while I have been struggling and I don't think I can accept this Why not? Sex isn’t the greatest thing ever. Just because someone has sex doesn’t mean they’re enjoying themselves more than you are doing other things. I know it sounds hard to believe when you’re a virgin, but trust me, sex is overrated. People treat it like holy grail of life when it’s like more pleasurable masturbating. Don’t let Hollywood or porn convince you that orgasms are all that. People who think that just haven’t found other things they enjoy more.	/r/ExRedPill	15/11/20 03:16 PM
10	Idiot on trp talks about “women’s desire to be controlled” this guy sounds like he took a time machine from the era before women had the right to vote to 2020 and he’s spewing his old fashion straight-out-of the early 20th century mysoginistic worldview Then where did the feminist movement come from? Oh right, when women desire things contrary to crackpot theories of how they think, it’s not the theory that’s the problem, it’s because feminism is a grand conspiracy against “the truth” about human nature.	/r/ExRedPill	15/11/20 03:56 AM
1	How to go to a restaurant as a sex god/red pill alpha male breeder Considering he waved her off and that didn’t piss her off, I’ve got my money on her being needy. If this story even happened.	/r/ExRedPill	04/11/20 12:46 PM
1	BRUTAL! My red pilled normie friend was bragging about his Tinder game then this happened! This woman was not turned on, she was actually disgusted and played along to bait him lol. So you’re mistaking flirtatious teasing as some sort of test because you read too much into it and assign meaning that isn’t there. All it takes is befriending a woman, and applying Ockham’s razor to see this is pseudointellectual nonsense. The shit test is just insecure men being paranoid that women are trying to test their worth all the time.	/r/ExRedPill	03/11/20 06:41 PM
2	BRUTAL! My red pilled normie friend was bragging about his Tinder game then this happened! This woman was not turned on, she was actually disgusted and played along to bait him lol. Who the fuck would be rattled by that question except for basement dwellers who feel the need to read too much into interactions? Ever thought it’s not a shit test and it’s a genuine question they want an answer to? How could it possibly rattle you? “Oh my God, I said she looked nice today, and she asked if I say that to all the girls. My skin grew cold, I became sweaty, my lips started trembling, oh God. I ran out of there. I failed the shit test.” If any of that shit could potentially “rattle”…	/r/ExRedPill	03/11/20 06:34 PM
2	BRUTAL! My red pilled normie friend was bragging about his Tinder game then this happened! This woman was not turned on, she was actually disgusted and played along to bait him lol. But what he described isn’t even a thing, either. Asking “do you say that to all the girls” doesn’t test anyone’s confidence in any way. Neither does asking to hold stuff or buy stuff. People can react in all kinds of ambiguous ways to those things, so it’s not like one’s confidence level is going to be ascertained from their reaction. Also, how can you be doing it without realizing it? It’s just pseudo-intellectual mumbo-jumbo. Just like TRP. Anyone who talks to actual humans and doesn’t waste …	/r/ExRedPill	03/11/20 06:19 PM
1	BRUTAL! My red pilled normie friend was bragging about his Tinder game then this happened! This woman was not turned on, she was actually disgusted and played along to bait him lol. This is the first I’ve ever seen your definition. Every other usage I’ve seen was acting like a bitch to see if they’re dominant.	/r/ExRedPill	03/11/20 06:05 PM
29	BRUTAL! My red pilled normie friend was bragging about his Tinder game then this happened! This woman was not turned on, she was actually disgusted and played along to bait him lol. I love how redpill people obsess over shit tests but don’t get the point of them. The point isn’t to see if a man will stand up or submit to them, it’s to see if they will still want them. It literally doesn’t matter how macho or stoic they are if someone can be a bitch to them and then apologize and get them back. Dudes think they win these shit tests because toxic women come back to them, not realizing they just proved they will still want someone who is shitty to them so long as they “make up…	/r/ExRedPill	03/11/20 03:51 PM
21	Do you think some PUA Redpill Alpha males are Incels in denial? I would say pretty much all of them. The idea that how much they get laid or date is a reflection of their quality as a man is rampant. The difference is incels cry over it because they’re unsuccessful and PUA’s celebrate themselves over it. But the incel mindset that sex determines their worth is still there. The macho PUA crap is posturing of insecure men. Men who actually get laid and date and aren’t incels on the inside don’t measure their self-worth on it. Point this out to PUA dudes and th…	/r/ExRedPill	29/10/20 01:12 PM
10	Womyn r stupid thots. For sex only Redpill is what I like to call a "trap narrative." Their narrative contains the idea that people are offended by the truth of it and have an agenda to disprove it with lies, therefore people who don't believe in redpill are just in denial and all their arguments against it come from that. Redpill is based on anecdotal evidence, and there is way more anecdotal evidence against their ideology, which is why they need a defense mechanism against it. It's like how conspiracy theories contain an aspec…	/r/ExRedPill	23/10/20 01:21 AM
6	Bill Burr debunks the whole man-hating and woman-hating movements of our time and many more. Do you have any data to back up more and more men are raised on Disney?	/r/ExRedPill	20/10/20 08:26 PM
1	When they think they know something but they don’t Redpill has nothing to do with new age.	/r/ExRedPill	17/10/20 03:27 PM
11	When they think they know something but they don’t I’m convinced every single redpill person is a basement-dweller who has little to no social skills or experience. This is coming from a hermit who at least had friends and can make new ones relatively easily. I’m not that social and I still understand basic things about people more than redpillers. And these are things pretty much everyone but them understands. Most people don’t care about status, especially when it comes to choosing sexual or romantic partners. It’s just insecure basement-dwell…	/r/ExRedPill	17/10/20 03:26 PM
11	I think fundamentally men just want to be loved by the opposite sex and not having that leads to groups like incels, MGTOW, TrueForceLoneliness But women on the otherhand in their age group get a line of men wanting to give them their love. I think this is often assumed, but isn't the case. There are women who are conventionally unattractive, weird, mean, mentally ill, introverted, eccentric, etc. But this conditioning applies to both male and female. Women get all the love, whilst their male counterparts get little to no love. Their sexual market value are out of sync. Because young men have a difficult time finding that love, ideologi…	/r/ExRedPill	13/10/20 11:47 AM
14	I think fundamentally men just want to be loved by the opposite sex and not having that leads to groups like incels, MGTOW, TrueForceLoneliness The real cause is overhype of romance and sex in Western society. People are taught that sex and romance are the greatest and most meaningful pleasures in life and if you do not have them, you are a loser, and if you have them, you are a winner. The reason people are incels and stuff is not simply because they are not wanted romantically or sexually for whatever reason, it's also because being wanted is too important to them and it drives them to the point of hating themselves and lashing out ov…	/r/ExRedPill	13/10/20 04:27 AM
1	"For Women, Dating is like Shopping. For Men, Dating is like a Job Interveiw" They assume every woman is conventionally attractive and approachable, and don’t understand that for conventionally attractive men, doing the approaching is not a disadvantage.	/r/ExRedPill	11/10/20 07:42 AM
4	"For Women, Dating is like Shopping. For Men, Dating is like a Job Interveiw" Thirsty dudes realize how cheap they are and assume all other men are like them, but don’t realize that there are men who “interview” women as well. They think women are pickier than men because the average woman is pickier than them. Redpill dudes point out to me that women pick between options like men don’t do the same exact thing.	/r/ExRedPill	11/10/20 07:33 AM
2	Red pill myths That women are inherently hypergamous. They’re just projecting what they would do with their sex obsession if they were a woman. They don’t see the value in individuals to understand why anyone would be satisfied with monogamy. Sex isn’t the pinnacle of everyone’s life, and for most people the combination of connection and sexual attraction is so much better than sex alone that they wouldn’t leave a loving relationship to fuck anyone slightly hotter. We all acknowledge there are people not like …	/r/ExRedPill	11/10/20 07:10 AM
4	Reminder: Just because you've had some fucked up experience doesn't mean you need to go Red Pill It’s obvious you don’t understand people and don’t have a partner because you think any woman who wants anything gets it. That simply isn’t true. There are lots of varied people with different experiences. You have an oversimplified and false idea of people and your head is too far up your ass to see it. I feel bad for you. You speak in generalizations that are obviously bullshit to people who actually go outside and talk to people. For me and anyone with a slight understanding of people, it’s o…	/r/ExRedPill	11/10/20 01:39 AM
6	Reminder: Just because you've had some fucked up experience doesn't mean you need to go Red Pill If all you’ve got is insisting your narrative is correct without actually backing it up, I’m done talking to you. I bet you’ve never had a friend who’s a woman.	/r/ExRedPill	10/10/20 09:31 PM
5	Reminder: Just because you've had some fucked up experience doesn't mean you need to go Red Pill It’s not the reality. You just don’t have enough experience with people.	/r/ExRedPill	10/10/20 09:27 PM
6	Reminder: Just because you've had some fucked up experience doesn't mean you need to go Red Pill That is such an oversimplified narrative. Jesus. People’s standards are all over the place. Men of all income levels get laid. Just because you don’t doesn’t mean other people in positions like yours don’t. Most people don’t have hobbies. Men don’t have to have them to have women be interested in them. They don’t have to be some rare amazing exceptional person to be liked by a woman. Lots of women are in relationships and how many amazing guys with great jobs and lots of hobbies do you think the…	/r/ExRedPill	10/10/20 08:45 PM
26	Reminder: Just because you've had some fucked up experience doesn't mean you need to go Red Pill Some people get attached to their bitterness because they haven’t learned how to love in a healthy way or without being naive. It’s a defense mechanism and the suggestion they shouldn’t be that way is seen as oppressive. I get bitter replies from people who want to justify being angry and resentful about being alone, and I try to be compassionate but honestly I get annoyed because they tend to believe ridiculous and simplistic ideas about society and men and women and are intransigent about chan…	/r/ExRedPill	10/10/20 12:53 AM
1	About escalating I never disputed any of that.	/r/ExRedPill	08/10/20 08:47 PM
2	About escalating Lots of people are emotionally healthy when they’re young, actually.	/r/ExRedPill	08/10/20 08:46 PM
5	About escalating Women who are emotionally healthy actually appreciate other people and like them for things other than being desired. Women, just like men, are capable of having crushes on people without knowing how they feel back. Everyone wants to feel desired, but people don't only like other people because they are desired by them unless they're insecure.	/r/ExRedPill	08/10/20 06:34 PM
6	About escalating Anyone who wants to make a decision about who their partner is quickly is an idiot or codependent. More emotionally healthy people take time with it because it's a big decision.	/r/ExRedPill	08/10/20 06:32 PM
5	What Do You Think The Main Reason Is For There Being Incels? Are you ok? You just posted this rant directed at stuff I didn’t say at all. Kinda crazy.	/r/ExRedPill	08/10/20 12:02 PM
6	What Do You Think The Main Reason Is For There Being Incels? It’s the charisma and personability that matters. I’ve met people who are nervous wrecks on the inside who do just fine dating because of their charisma. And I know plenty of confident people who have trouble dating.	/r/ExRedPill	08/10/20 12:01 PM
5	What Do You Think The Main Reason Is For There Being Incels? Nah, ever heard of the crazy cat lady?	/r/ExRedPill	07/10/20 11:22 PM
10	What Do You Think The Main Reason Is For There Being Incels? There are women who experience the same exact thing. /r/truefemcels Edit: Oh, it was banned.	/r/ExRedPill	07/10/20 08:41 PM
12	What Do You Think The Main Reason Is For There Being Incels? He didn't not complain because anyone else expected it of him. He didn't complain because he didn't want to be a resentful asshole over it. He acknowledged they were shitty people and didn't dwell on it and complain and his positive attitude worked out for him.	/r/ExRedPill	07/10/20 08:32 PM
48	What Do You Think The Main Reason Is For There Being Incels? I think it depends on the person. I read this one guy’s story on reddit about his dating life as a self-described, short, ugly, and fat person. He said women treated him like shit, oftentimes ignoring him or giving him dirty looks when he approached them or saying something nasty. But he didn’t let it get to him. He figured they were shitty people and was happy with himself. Eventually he met someone. But he acknowledged not everyone might not react the way he did. I think it can be hard to draw…	/r/ExRedPill	07/10/20 07:47 PM
2	TRP, marriage, and divorce: a rant. Also, for hunter-gatherers, arranged marriage is the norm. If how humans behaved before civilization is supposed to be our "true nature," then we shouldn't have any ideas of what makes people pick their mates because their parents are doing it for the most part. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3083418/#:~:text=Conservatism%20in%20marriage%20practices%2C%20which,of%20relationship%20between%20arrangement%20of	/r/ExRedPill	06/10/20 06:20 PM
3	TRP, marriage, and divorce: a rant. Evolutionary psychology is a field comprised of speculation that’s impossible to do experiments on, making it not really science.	/r/ExRedPill	06/10/20 03:09 PM
19	TRP, marriage, and divorce: a rant. There’s a myth that the housewife is this natural thing, when in reality hunter-gatherers split up care more than people in civilization so mothers actually spend less time with their children and have more freedom.	/r/ExRedPill	05/10/20 06:41 PM
7	RP appeals to your insecurity, that's why it's so difficult to forget once you've learned about it That's why RP guys come out with insults and trying to tell me who I am whenever I debate them. Their worldview validates them and having it questioned makes them feel insecure, so they have to try to make me feel insecure. But they don't realize that someone whose only interaction with them is to tell them they're wrong about something isn't going to care about their opinions of them. They're too obsessed with status to realize most people don't care about it nearly as much as they do. Status d…	/r/ExRedPill	01/10/20 06:32 PM
7	I think we should normalize the idea that people have standards when it comes to dating. Yup. Everyone has gotten shit for finding certain people attractive or unattractive. People just confuse what's most popularly thought of as attractive with what's universally or objectively attractive. That's why "conventional attractiveness" is a concept. Most of us can look at a person and have an idea of how attracted to them the average person will be, but we acknowledge that there will be people who will and won't find them attractive. It's also why sexual marketplace value isn't a thing. …	/r/ExRedPill	01/10/20 01:31 PM
47	I think we should normalize the idea that people have standards when it comes to dating. Looks don't matter to everyone. They do to most people, though. But people don't always agree with whatever pop culture finds attractive.	/r/ExRedPill	30/09/20 11:36 PM
1	The key to getting woman is really quite simple Eh, you'd be surprised. I wouldn't consider myself a 10/10, but I've dated women I knew in real life who I considered to be 10/10, and I have been in a dry spell for a while and have never had success on apps. I notice lots of guys complain they never get approached, but I have been a decent amount of times. So I know looks aren't my issue. I feel like on apps there's sort of an art to creating a basically appealing image of oneself using one's profile and pics and I suck at it. Or maybe I just …	/r/ExRedPill	30/09/20 03:17 AM
21	You don't need girl friend. Society overhypes romance and sex.	/r/ExRedPill	27/09/20 01:41 AM
7	The key to getting woman is really quite simple One caveat to this is one shouldn’t expect it to actually improve anything. Some people are a 10/10 on paper and in theory should be able to date anyone they want, but for whatever number of reasons fail somewhere in the process of actually meeting people and connecting with them.	/r/ExRedPill	22/09/20 09:17 PM
20	What percentage of people in the manosphere do you think are mentally ill or have personality disorders? I think probably more than average, but what I think is most common is people who experienced emotional trauma from being bullied, manipulated, abused, cheated on, betrayed, etc. Not necessarily by women. I think a large part of the desire to be alpha comes from feeling intimidated by other men due to insecurity. Pretty much every time I get into debates with redpill people they feel the need to talk down to me about being beta or whatever. I think it's funny because they seem to assume I would …	/r/ExRedPill	22/09/20 01:36 AM
2	Where Do I Go From Here? Finding a partner is not hunting, it's a fluid and natural thing Only point I disagree on. I wouldn't call it hunting, but it's not "fluid and natural" for everyone. For the record, I think going about every interaction wanting a romantic relationship is bad. I just think that it's not reasonable for everyone to expect finding a partner to happen in a fluid and natural way as a result of being in a group of people who share a hobby, even if enjoying a hobby is the only reason for being in it. Th…	/r/ExRedPill	19/09/20 02:20 AM
11	Why do redpill men care so much about a womans "body count? Because they think every woman wants to fuck as many guys as possible (really just their own projection) and the more one manages to do so, the less likely they are to be committed and faithful. But they miss that people can change. People can be promiscuous at one point in life and monogamous later. People can also have a low body count and be promiscuous later. People are more complicated than TRP would want to believe.	/r/ExRedPill	15/09/20 10:04 PM
1	Red pill only attract deluded broken people Wow, we’ve got a fucking Sherlock Holmes over here. I was trying to falsify it. It’s glaringly obvious. Also, you said your secret to dating women was being able to be yourself. I never said anything about it making something a guarantee for people to like you, I contested it being something that makes people like you at all. You write so pretentiously and you twist my words. I’m just gonna block you so I don’t see more pretentious stuff. It’s pretty annoying to read tbh.	/r/ExRedPill	09/09/20 12:29 AM
1	Red pill only attract deluded broken people I never said you were an extrovert. Social butterflies and extroverts are not synonymous. Also, your entire lecture is pointless for me. Minus the “there’s no right thing to say” thing, it’s all common sense. I get everything you said already. It’s not that esoteric. There are right and wrong things to say in different situations. People can get literally everything you said and not be as good at socializing. How do you not realize that?	/r/ExRedPill	09/09/20 12:24 AM
1	Red pill only attract deluded broken people That’s a possibility. I’ve got my money on him being a social butterfly who finds saying the right thing at the right time so intuitive that they never have to think beyond “be confident” for interactions to go well. These people act like any level of analysis is too much but don’t stop to think people are analyzing it more than them because relying on their intuition does not work for them.	/r/ExRedPill	08/09/20 06:28 PM
1	Red pill only attract deluded broken people You said your secret is you like yourself enough to be yourself around everyone. Yes, you did imply that confidence makes people like you. Read the second paragraph of your first post in this chain. Also, I was being realistic about confidence not guaranteeing success. That isn’t being negative, and you seemed to have acknowledged that when you contradicted yourself from earlier to agree with that premise just now to backtrack on your claim about confidence being part of why people like you.	/r/ExRedPill	08/09/20 06:09 PM
1	Red pill only attract deluded broken people It’s not the lack of confidence. Maybe it never is for you. Because you have skills. This shit is so irritating for me to read because of how false it is. I’m confident, happy, and don’t give a fuck what people think, but I’m weird and awkward and it does fuck me over sometimes. It’s so annoying that people assume all sorts of negative shit about people who aren’t as good at being liked as they want to be. Also, you can’t always sense people’s anxiety. People’s inner emotions aren’t always unamb…	/r/ExRedPill	08/09/20 05:51 PM
3	Red pill only attract deluded broken people It’s really because you’re skilled at being likable. Being kind to people doesn’t always mean being liked. Really nice, happy people can be perceived as boring, annoying, weird, etc. if they don’t know how to express themselves in a way others like. I’ve seen stuff like what you’ve written a lot. Social butterflies don’t experience having good intentions and not being liked because they don’t drop the ball in the execution, so to them “be nice to people and interested in them and they’ll like yo…	/r/ExRedPill	08/09/20 03:46 PM
19	Honest question, how can I avoid building resentment against women after bad dating experiences? Understand this thing called individuality. No woman represents all women ever.	/r/ExRedPill	06/09/20 01:02 PM
1	how to stop the thought of "I have to get this or that ,I have to win this or that ,I have to be alpha" and just be happy for knowing that I'm alive and healthy? Honestly I feel like sex is overhyped by pop culture and that’s why people get so bent out of shape over it. There’s this common idea that the best sex with the hottest person is the greatest feeling ever, but in my opinion it only is true if you miss out on other things in life. Maybe I’m weird, but I watch porn almost daily but for me orgasms are not that profound or meaningful of a pleasure. I’ve had sex and it’s great on a physiological level but as far as total level of joy and interestingn…	/r/ExRedPill	05/09/20 04:02 AM
4	Discovering the red pill I found out about it because I was into evopsych. Redpill people claimed their ideas were based on evolution so I checked them out and have been making fun of them ever since.	/r/ExRedPill	30/08/20 02:10 AM
1	I think redpill broke my brain. Your imagination isn’t research.	/r/ExRedPill	28/08/20 04:45 PM
1	I think redpill broke my brain. I responded lol because calling something scientific doesn’t make it that.	/r/ExRedPill	28/08/20 04:36 PM
1	I think redpill broke my brain. Yes, the way I respond to your ridiculous opinions is the way I respond to everything else. That is a reasonable assumption.	/r/ExRedPill	28/08/20 04:18 PM
1	I think redpill broke my brain. Scientific. Lol. Your head is so far up your own ass there’s no getting through to you. Enjoy your pseudo-intellectual fantasies. Peace.	/r/ExRedPill	28/08/20 04:10 PM
1	I think redpill broke my brain. Or people are just calling you out for being a basement dweller with ridiculous opinions.	/r/ExRedPill	28/08/20 04:09 PM
1	I think redpill broke my brain. And that wasn’t enough to make you realize not every guy is a simp who doesn’t care about personality? If you’re not projecting, you just have a low opinion of men.	/r/ExRedPill	28/08/20 02:29 PM
1	I think redpill broke my brain. Maybe dating is harder for you than you imagine it is for women and you're just imagining how hard you think it is for you is how hard it is for men. Also, I obviously didn't conflate safety with ease of getting a date because I differentiated them in the very first comment you replied to. Do you ever talk to other people? You seem to not understand them at all, since you say stuff like this: No one would hardly debate if you’d propose that being a parent is often always harder on the mother tha…	/r/ExRedPill	28/08/20 01:41 PM
1	I think redpill broke my brain. Women have it easier because men approach. That's literally it. And lol at men having higher sex drives. You really don't know any women. Maybe if you ever were friends with a woman you would understand.	/r/ExRedPill	28/08/20 01:24 PM
1	I think redpill broke my brain. Maybe you were single because you generalize women and don't get to know any as individuals. Maybe it's because you talk about them like a mysterious animal you saw in the wild a few times and not like you actually know any personally. Girls have to bring more to the table than just a pretty face. But I also blame other thirsty men on that part because if men weren't so ready to bow down to the most beautiful woman that maybe they will learn they need to step up too You've never met a woman who …	/r/ExRedPill	28/08/20 01:22 PM
1	I was banned at asktrp for pointing at hypocrisy of the community leaders Communities with dumb ideologies have to do that or they'll break apart. The best defense for a bad ideology is being ignorant of other ones.	/r/ExRedPill	27/08/20 07:33 PM
2	I was banned at asktrp for pointing at hypocrisy of the community leaders Because they can't back up their arguments. They are so gullible that their beliefs are held together by a weak thread because they never put any conscious thought or reasoning into them. Challenging their beliefs would make it all fall apart, so they avoid it as much as they can. That's why redpill people say that people who disagree with them are just bitter for not being alpha. They need excuses for the fact that they can't back themselves up.	/r/ExRedPill	27/08/20 07:00 PM
1	I was banned at asktrp for pointing at hypocrisy of the community leaders Join the club. I got banned from /r/redpillwomen because they had this thread saying black women were unfeminine and that's "why black men don't like them." I told them their ideas of femininity and masculinity were made-up. Instant ban.	/r/ExRedPill	27/08/20 06:57 PM
1	Feel like I'm tricking girls when I am social. Is confidence a trait or something you display? I didn’t say confidence is gonna make people attracted to you, just that superficial people are attracted to it. I agree with you, though. Looks are a part of it. Also fashion is a huge part of it, too. Lacking style is a turnoff to a lot of people, which I don’t really get personally (because it doesn’t change people’s bodies) but it’s still a thing.	/r/ExRedPill	25/08/20 04:06 PM
12	Feel like I'm tricking girls when I am social. Is confidence a trait or something you display? My experience has been that the most confident-acting people are the most insecure. Secure people don’t care whether or not they appear confident to others. It’s only insecure people that need to appear confident. And people are not nearly as good at seeing through it as they think. No one would put on the act if people didn’t fall for it. When people say they’re attracted to confidence, what they’re they’re really attracted to is someone’s positive image of themselves. They’re gullible enough t…	/r/ExRedPill	24/08/20 07:13 PM
2	Why is intamacy decining? People who tend to have more hobbies tend to have less of a social life, and people who have a more active social life tend to have fewer hobbies. I think it can be cause and effect in both directions. People can have a lot of hobbies because they lack a social life, and people can lack a social life because they have a lot of hobbies. And people can have an active social life because they have few hobbies, and have few hobbies because they have an active social life.	/r/ExRedPill	23/08/20 03:48 PM
16	Why is intamacy decining? I think it’s from an increase in available entertainment. In Western society, men are expected to do the approaching. When enjoying oneself without socializing is way easier, men have less incentive to put themselves to approach. But women get approached, so the difference in difficulty between meeting someone and entertaining themselves is smaller than it is for men. This is only anecdotal, but I’ve noticed there tends to be an inverse correlation between how many hobbies and interests someone …	/r/ExRedPill	23/08/20 12:02 AM
2	I think redpill broke my brain. Statistically, more women are killed by men, so safetywise it’s not even. I agree that men worry about safety, and I think it’s often underestimated how much they do. The luxuries of desired women are also luxuries desired men experience. You just don’t realize it because you’re a straight dude and you don’t go for straight guys. This applies to the pickiness and stuff, too. Guys who date also complain they can never find the perfect thing. Not every dude has to lift ten hours a week and diet to…	/r/ExRedPill	22/08/20 04:35 AM
39	I think redpill broke my brain. Women have it easier dating in terms of effort, but not safety or pleasantness. It isn’t a symmetrical, across-the-board balance because there are different men and women. Guys who complain about this are usually comparing the most conventionally attractive and outgoing women to the most conventionally unattractive and reclusive guys. If you’re going to get resentful at women because of the subset that have an easier time dating than you, why not be resentful at the men who do too? I never see a…	/r/ExRedPill	20/08/20 02:34 PM
1	Do you have any positives which came from your experience with the red pill? Look at Eve? A mythical character from the Bible? Come on. The whole reason she ate the fruit is because God put it there and put a snake there to tell her to eat it. Also, he lied about what it did (he said they would die if they ate the fruit and they didn't). And most importantly, he never even actually told her. He told Adam, then made Eve. You can see this in the first three chapters of Genesis. So really it's God's fault. I don't get laid and I'm not on antidepressants. I just actually kno…	/r/ExRedPill	19/08/20 01:01 AM
24	Why the red pill is bashing single mothers and sons from a single mom household? There’s a book called Eve’s Seed that has an interesting idea of how misogyny developed, and it’s pretty simple: civilization made men redundant because the lack of need to hunt and protect from predators made work that was male-exclusive by necessity nonexistent, so it had to be created by force. Many men are insecure that they need women more than women need them.	/r/ExRedPill	15/08/20 05:44 PM
3	Do you have any positives which came from your experience with the red pill? It’s pretty much a rejection of the romcom man in favor of one from action movies. In romcoms, the nice guy gets the girl by not being an asshole. RP guys see that and act like submissive losers and fail to attract women or only attract manipulative ones who hurt them. So they turn to the action movie male protagonist who acts powerful and gets the girl. Because they’re slightly more attractive for not being submissive, they’re no longer getting manipulated and hurt, and they think they’ve crack…	/r/ExRedPill	14/08/20 05:54 PM
6	Do you have any positives which came from your experience with the red pill? If hunter gatherers today are any indication, cavemen weren’t even like what RP imagines they were. Hunter gatherers don’t have alphas, and partners are usually selected by parents. They’re projecting a mix of bad zoology and the way toxic basement-dwelling people in the West think onto human evolution.	/r/ExRedPill	13/08/20 09:36 PM
36	Do you have any positives which came from your experience with the red pill? It’s made me realize just how insecure so many “tough guys” are. It’s kinda funny. Like we live in a civilization and they want to reenact some caveman alpha fantasy because they think that makes them better. It’s like dude, no one cares. I’m gonna go laugh at you and then enjoy myself.	/r/ExRedPill	13/08/20 05:50 AM
9	Hey guys, after watching this video and reading the comments, why is it that men are felt like this in the comments? I see a lot of hurt men just projecting others to not get with a woman at all I slightly disagree. I think the cause is simpler, but similar to what you’re saying. I don’t think it has to do with social skills. I lack them and I’ve still managed to date and not be a misogynistic asshole. I think the real cause is guys who lack social skills who think subservience and people-pleasing are the ways to attract women and then get a rude awakening. In the movies, the nice guys “win” by “getting” the girl for being nice, and they take that and run with it and find out it’s bulls…	/r/ExRedPill	10/08/20 02:22 AM
1	Ugly men have a right to be angry People don’t decide what and what not to find attractive based on what the majority think. It’s subjective and varies by individuals. No one is intrinsically ugly or attractive just because the majority thinks they are. That’s why “conventional attractiveness” is a concept. The concept acknowledges that people find attraction outside the convention, but there is still a convention. But the convention isn’t objective, it’s just a shared subjective feeling.	/r/ExRedPill	02/08/20 09:04 PM
1	Ugly men have a right to be angry Nah, I still disagree. It doesn’t help you get over the issue to be angry. I read the account of this guy on reddit who said he was ugly and women treated him like shit. It was to the point he couldn’t even talk to most because they would give him a dirty look and ignore him. However, he didn’t become a misogynistic asshole because of it. He realized not all women were shitty. And eventually he got into a good relationship. Staying angry would have made his life worse.	/r/ExRedPill	02/08/20 08:44 PM
1	Ugly men have a right to be angry It’s not anyone’s fault because no one can control the circumstances of your genetic makeup. Getting bitten by a blue ring octopus is natural, but not healthy.	/r/ExRedPill	02/08/20 08:41 PM
5	Ugly men have a right to be angry Disagree. Anger is an unhealthy reaction. Whose fault it?	/r/ExRedPill	02/08/20 12:08 AM
13	Does anybody think that TRP are thirsty simps? Of course. That’s why they’re obsessed with getting the pussy off the pedestal: they put it on there in the first place. Edit: I just had a thought: is it just me, or are there no redpillers who lacked issues getting laid or dating, and had healthy relationships before becoming redpillers? It seems like their success stories are in a couple categories: Guy who got fucked over by someone toxic and then got bitter about it. Simp who never got laid or dated and then became a redpiller and got laid.…	/r/ExRedPill	22/07/20 03:01 PM
1	Why does no one acknowledge Women are not open to dating autistic/non neurotipical men most of the time? Where am I not listening to what others have to say? Ironic coming from you considering your whole argument started with twisting my words. Practice what you preach.	/r/ExRedPill	29/06/20 09:43 PM
2	RedPill women Insecurity.	/r/ExRedPill	29/06/20 05:40 PM
1	Why does no one acknowledge Women are not open to dating autistic/non neurotipical men most of the time? Observation bias is one hell of a drug, and your anecdotes are not evidence. So does this only apply to me? All you were giving was anecdotal evidence as well. But stop attempting to lessen what other people face to make yourself feel better. I'm not. Ironic how you call me out for doing straw men later when you put words in my mouth. No one said all women are angels, so don't construct straw arguments. The person I replied to implied that women are the only ones who worry about the opposite sex…	/r/ExRedPill	29/06/20 04:31 PM
0	Why does no one acknowledge Women are not open to dating autistic/non neurotipical men most of the time? I am going off my experience listening to others’ experience. I’ve seen more men give up on dating for not getting any attention than women did for getting creepy attention or only sexual attention. These men considered not getting any attention worse than these women considered getting creepy and/or sexual attention. Just because it’s not a competition doesn’t mean both sides have the same level of hardship. Also, you seem to assume that men don’t worry about women harming them. Not true. Women…	/r/ExRedPill	27/06/20 12:47 AM
1	Why does no one acknowledge Women are not open to dating autistic/non neurotipical men most of the time? I’m gonna disagree on one point and say people being only sexually attracted to you (minus dangerous situations) is better than nothing at all. It’s still bad; it’s just not as bad as nothing. I can get why being stalked or creeped on is worse than no attention. But people being attracted to you who want nothing more than sex is not worse than no one being attracted to you at all. I feel like people suffer more from feeling unattractive than from feeling attractive but not valued for their perso…	/r/ExRedPill	26/06/20 10:45 PM
1	Toxic "Manosphere" types should't be censored but highlighted, challenged with facts and openly mocked. I don't always have the patience or energy to deal with them but I respect the people who do. Thunderf00t's "Why do People Laugh at Creationists?" series where he debunks a bunch of batshit creationist arguments is a good example.	/r/ExRedPill	26/06/20 05:07 AM
25	Toxic "Manosphere" types should't be censored but highlighted, challenged with facts and openly mocked. I’m all for challenging them when I feel like it and not doing it when it’s clear I’m talking to a crazy neanderthal. Some people’s opinions are too false and filled up with bad logic to be worth debating with them. If they’re dumb or uneducated enough to come up with them and are emotionally invested in them, there is pretty much nothing I can do to change their mind. Some people will just go into straight denial if they’re backed up against a wall with one of their points. There’s no getting t…	/r/ExRedPill	25/06/20 07:53 PM
3	What do you guys think of Alexander Grace? They mix in a little bit of useful advice so there can be some amount of reality in their views. The issue is what sets them apart from basic dating advice anyone could tell you is batshit insane. I’m not convinced men and women are inherently different in our personalities. We have different reproductive anatomy and are attracted to different sexes, but literally any feminine or masculine trait is not exclusive to men or women. Not to mention we’ve had thousands of years of almost every culture…	/r/ExRedPill	24/06/20 07:59 PM
21	What do you guys think of Alexander Grace? What an idiot. No self-respecting person wants someone more for wanting them less. RP people are too insecure to understand how non-insecure people operate.	/r/ExRedPill	24/06/20 04:33 PM
6	You guys should block this user from your sub, he seems to be frequent poster. I think it’s hilarious. They’ll make threads with titles like “I want to quit redpill but it’s just so true” followed by pro redpill arguments. It’s like they think people are as gullible as them and will see a pro redpill argument as skepticism or an inquiry for advice and will be more open to it as a result. You can’t Trojan horse an argument to anyone who’s not an idiot. Only redpill people are that stupid and they showcase it when they try to do that.	/r/ExRedPill	07/06/20 02:21 PM
1	Do women stop lying/manipulating at a certain age? Every age. Just find the ones who aren’t manipulative. The thing is they avoid redpill people like the plague.	/r/ExRedPill	07/06/20 02:14 PM
8	I've seen more people on the Blackpill/redpill mansphere be successful in dating than those that leave it And nah it's just what I have observed , that most of the exincels that came to the forum where still pretty much incels meaning nothing changed after leaving the group This is exactly what I was addressing. The whole thing about red pill perspective and why it’s wrong is relevant to explaining the majority of people who don’t work the way redpill thinks they do. You are talking about your observations and I’m explaining how they are not descriptive of people in general.	/r/ExRedPill	05/06/20 04:37 AM
6	I've seen more people on the Blackpill/redpill mansphere be successful in dating than those that leave it I did address the post. Let me try to simplify this: You mentioned that people who disagree with redpill rhetoric who go onto the forum you were on and say they are ex-incels are actually virgins. Then you insinuated that redpill people get laid and they don't. I mentioned I am not a virgin and disagree with redpill ideology, and then did a breakdown of the redpill narrative and why it's wrong. Does that help? I don't think I can make it any simpler. Also, wtf is this: "(?." I have no clue what …	/r/ExRedPill	05/06/20 04:00 AM
24	I've seen more people on the Blackpill/redpill mansphere be successful in dating than those that leave it Meet people in real life and don't base your opinions on people on the internet. Any sort of message board dedicated to a specific topic is going to attract a concentration of different demographics, whether they agree with the beliefs of the board or not. The people participating in the circlejerk and the people dissenting are not quintessential representations of people. It's funny you mention ex-incels calling out redpill people who actually are virgins, because I've never heard of that ever.…	/r/ExRedPill	05/06/20 03:38 AM
8	My problem with "focus on yourself" A lot of common dating advice is crap. There’s a simple narrative that to be dateable, you have to be confident, not a dick, and be a happy person with a fulfilling life. It makes sense if you look at the extremes like above-average attractive, accomplished, likeable people vs basement-dwelling unhyiegenic assholes. But in reality meeting people is about understanding how to act in different situations which can be complicated for people who aren’t normally outgoing. It’s a bit more complicated …	/r/ExRedPill	25/05/20 08:18 PM
6	There are men who follow red pill ideologies who think they're strong for being emotionally unavailable but they're actually really weak. How fitting that your argument is based on fiction.	/r/ExRedPill	24/05/20 09:03 PM
5	Following TRP made me socially awkward Or maybe not everyone has the same standards and some people aren’t even attracted to celebrities. Not everyone with “top market” value is interested in having new partners all the time. Some people aren’t sex-crazed animals.	/r/ExRedPill	18/05/20 10:07 PM
14	Following TRP made me socially awkward Try to focus on how not everyone has a constant desire to keep finding new optimal mates that overrides any attempts to be monogamous. Not everyone is so obsessed with sex. Not everyone needs a bunch of partners to stay satisfied sexually. TRP is based on an unhealthy obsession with sex projected onto everyone. The whole reason TRP acts like they’ve discovered some secret forgotten truth about human nature is because most people act to the contrary of what they believe. They want to portray this…	/r/ExRedPill	17/05/20 05:34 AM
2	I think people realize you can go through years of self-improvement and still end up with nothing. Yeah, self-improvement alone won't make anyone like you. It's more complex and individual and you have to figure it out on a situation-by-situation basis. The idea that people can magically sense your self-improvement is dumb. No one can and in many cases no one cares. People aren't only interested in ambition. People don't magically sense your inner quality of life and gravitate to you or avoid you for it. People can think shitty people are awesome and awesome people are shitty because no one i…	/r/ExRedPill	17/03/20 11:10 PM
7	I sometimes wonder how the fuck a woman could be attracted to me I think at the core, TRP ideology is inherently anti-individualistic and is easier to believe the less you experience the varied individuality of people. In their eyes, the value of people to society and to the opposite sex is determined by how much they fulfill their simplistic cookie-cutter ideas of masculinity and femininity which seem to be lifted straight out of 80's action movies. There is no compatibility of individuals in the equation. There is no liking people purely for their personali…	/r/ExRedPill	13/03/20 04:07 AM
5	“Men prefer debt free virgins without tattoos”. It made me laugh the first time I heard it.	/r/ExRedPill	07/02/20 03:14 PM
34	Explain to me why Hypergamy is not a real phenomenon. Because not everyone is an animal whose sex drive is running constantly and taking up all of their existence. Some people don’t want to fuck everyone in the universe and have other non-sexual things to interest them. RP people are so obsessed with sex that they can’t understand that.	/r/ExRedPill	29/01/20 12:26 PM
2	So if the redpill is bs what is actually a good way to hook up? I know what you’re saying. I just disagree. I never got laid as a side-effect of having a good time. I got laid because I talked to someone for that purpose and/or they did that with me. I wish I had the experiences you do. I’ve gotten enough compliments and been hit on enough to think I’m attractive. My issue is I am not good at talking to people. I’m not good at initiating conversations or connecting to people. That’s what makes getting laid not effortless for me. I pretty much give up on find…	/r/ExRedPill	28/01/20 04:44 AM
4	So if the redpill is bs what is actually a good way to hook up? I’ve heard variations of this over and over and I find it useless. All it is is someone who’s so good at socializing and getting laid that it’s second nature thinking people who are not like them can benefit from adopting their naive perspective on how simple and easy they think it is. In my experience, the times I got laid or got a number, I did exactly what you said not to do. I would talk to someone with that intention and it worked. It didn’t always, but it worked more than not trying specif…	/r/ExRedPill	28/01/20 02:29 AM
5	Does texting ruin attraction? Anyone who's going to base whether or not you have you in their life on something so pointless and inconsequential is not worth having around.	/r/ExRedPill	07/01/20 04:59 AM
17	Does texting ruin attraction? There is no universal answer to this because it depends on the people involved. But if they're losing attraction to you because you text them, then it's not gonna work out. Relationships should work because you people are compatible; not because you made the right moves in some sort of strange subconscious game and then "won" their interest.	/r/ExRedPill	07/01/20 04:19 AM
9	Here's one for you.. This is the classic line they use to explain away all of the people who are living disproof of their ideology. They tell you that being a certain masculine archetype will make you universally more attractive to women. Many men aren't that archetype and are still attractive to women. So they come up with this idea that men are lying about not agreeing with TRP and still getting laid and having relationships, and women are lying about not liking the TRP archetype because of widespread feminist bra…	/r/ExRedPill	03/01/20 01:39 PM
20	Every since exploring at new content outside of the red pill...I’ve come to terms with how unintelligent the red pill really is All it takes to know they’re full of it is a layman understanding of zoology. It’s dumb to assume all male and female humans have an inherent nature that always exists regardless of what their conscious thoughts and desires. And it’s even dumber to assume that selectively analyzing highly cherrypicked and generalized examples from other animals is how you figure out this inherent nature. And then they don’t even get facts right about animals. But they have a safety net: people who disagree with …	/r/ExRedPill	12/12/19 02:26 AM
8	It all comes back to one thing: Sex is overrated I think a lot of people become incels not just because society bases people’s value on their sex lives, but also because it says our sex lives are a result of our value. “They don’t get laid” is a common insult. I think incels let that get to them and then lash out at society instead of moving on in a healthy way, like deciding society’s opinion is stupid.	/r/ExRedPill	26/11/19 02:51 PM
1	Do you guy believe in the Dual Mating theory Humans are individuals capable of wanting different things and making different choices. I don’t get why people propose we all have desires we don’t know about due to our evolution that can be neatly understood by imagining certain hypothetical situations when there are infinite possibilities.	/r/ExRedPill	10/11/19 11:00 PM
1	The Prevalence of Red Pill/Incel Subs Shows That Danger is Lurking How can you predict a thing you can’t measure?	/r/ExRedPill	10/11/19 12:29 PM
2	The Prevalence of Red Pill/Incel Subs Shows That Danger is Lurking Just like your views expressed are a simplified and inaccurate take. But not the common sense things you say to draw false equivalence to your weaker points as a substitute for backing them, like your spiel about interviews. Look, sometimes it’s easy to form sweeping views of shit you don’t understand and it’s embarrassing when you realize you did it, but you move on.	/r/ExRedPill	10/11/19 04:34 AM
5	How do you guys deal with hypergamy? Link them.	/r/ExRedPill	09/11/19 04:55 PM
3	The Prevalence of Red Pill/Incel Subs Shows That Danger is Lurking Social status existing isn’t the same as “a system attuned to status which runs on serotonin” existing. You do realize more than one neurotransmitter exists, right? And that serotonin does more than one thing? It’s ironic as fuck that you claim someone is ignorant about science while spouting your layman bullshit. It’ll be good for you and the world when your pseudointellectual bubble bursts.	/r/ExRedPill	09/11/19 04:54 PM
1	The Prevalence of Red Pill/Incel Subs Shows That Danger is Lurking Unlike an actual market attraction is an unquantifiable subjective value that can’t be measured.	/r/ExRedPill	09/11/19 04:49 PM
7	How do you guys deal with hypergamy? Not everyone picks based on status. The world has like 8 billion people in it. Do you seriously think you know why billions of people pick their spouses? There’s nothing to cope with because it’s imaginary. It might make sense to you, but things can be bullshit and make sense.	/r/ExRedPill	09/11/19 04:45 PM
2	The Prevalence of Red Pill/Incel Subs Shows That Danger is Lurking It already exists, dude. Have you read a single post here?	/r/ExRedPill	09/11/19 02:37 PM
4	The Prevalence of Red Pill/Incel Subs Shows That Danger is Lurking SMV is not real because not everyone has the standards you imagine they do, so no one has a universal value to everyone else.	/r/ExRedPill	09/11/19 02:36 PM
5	The Prevalence of Red Pill/Incel Subs Shows That Danger is Lurking Oh Christ. You don’t know shit about neurology. I doubt I’ll be the one to do it, but I hope someone bursts your pseudointellectual bubble. lol, “a system attuned to status which runs on serotonin.” Gotta love when ignorant laymen are too ignorant to realize how stupid they sound when they try to be wise.	/r/ExRedPill	09/11/19 02:35 PM
7	As an ex red pill woman, I still feel like I’m unworthy, slowly becoming infertile on the basis I’m still not married with kids (24F) Women are most fertile in their late 20's. You're good.	/r/ExRedPill	05/10/19 12:30 PM
1	How do you feel about this omission? their true nature, or not? Do you have any sources?	/r/ExRedPill	01/10/19 03:03 PM
28	Trp has mostly damaged my skills with women Their whole "women like assholes" fantasy is partially based on three things: 1. Experiences with insecure women who want to prove themselves. 2. Feeling insecure about attracting women and misogynistic at the same time makes them not want to be nice to women, so the ultimate way to pretend that they can have their misogynistic feelings and also attract women at the same time is to pretend that women like assholes. 3. TRP guys having better luck with women as an asshole (see #1) because before t…	/r/ExRedPill	28/09/19 04:46 PM
6	What causes bitterness? Do you think thats why red pill/incel types can't seem to succeed or at least cheer up. Everyone says women can tell how a guy feels about himself or if he's confident or not and knowing that really doesn't help. Nope. They're every bit as limited as you are figuring that out about strangers. People misread people all the time. it just seems like men have to be exactly the type of caricature the feminist swear up and down that isn't real and that they're not attracted to. Redpill people say this all the time, but they're always saying it without any concrete examples or even defini…	/r/ExRedPill	20/09/19 07:23 PM
1	a noticeable trend between history of abuse and red pill acceptance/indoctrination You should google what a non-sequitur is. Why does it matter that I don't address that? After the divorce process and redpilling, men ask what do women give to me? And answer is zero. You really need to understand redpill better. I guess that's not redpill?	/r/ExRedPill	17/09/19 06:53 PM
7	Isnt self-improvement in the hopes of attracting a female in itself adhering to toxic masculine gender norms. What if that bald fat nerd drinks Mountain Dew and eats Cheetos all day completely happy with his lifestyle? I think it's self-defeating to be convinced that you have to be fake for women to like you. Sure, there are women who like men for traits and behaviors that any man can do, but they're not everyone. And men do the same thing. I've met guys who claimed to be in love, but never once said a single thing they like about the woman that is unique to them. How is that any different from a woman who's into a guy for his confidence or his clothes? Society stereotypes men as caring about looks and women a…	/r/ExRedPill	10/09/19 08:14 PM
19	a noticeable trend between history of abuse and red pill acceptance/indoctrination This makes so much sense considering how much their model of attractiveness for both men and women is based solely on what one can get out of the other. That's all narcissists really care about with people. Men are into women for reproduction, and women are into men for protection and resources. They leave out individuals liking each other for personal reasons because they lack(ed) that in their own life. That's why they think men and women like each other solely for what they define as their ma…	/r/ExRedPill	29/08/19 01:08 AM
3	How to be more attractive to woman Realize that no matter how many different ideas of attractiveness you conceptualize, there will always be someone whose idea is different.	/r/ExRedPill	23/08/19 01:04 AM
6	A woman I'm seeing is into being dominated in bed. I can't help but feel like this is toxic for me. Not all women are like that. If you're not into it, that's fine. I dated a girl who wanted me to do all the stuff you described and I wasn't into it. She wanted to call me a bitch, whore, etc. I've also hooked up with women who hated that shit. Redpill is all built on selective memory and interpretation, as well as an idea that those who disagree with them are subjected to feminist brainwashing that denies human nature. It really doesn't matter that one thing you observe aligns with their views …	/r/ExRedPill	17/08/19 03:39 PM
2	Red pill and incel related sites/blogs will only fuck you up, even give you nightmares. All it does is make you bitter and can even destroy your personality. Because it takes your insecurities and dangles a possible prize in front of you: your failures are because you’re not alpha enough, become alpha and you’ll get everything you want.	/r/ExRedPill	29/07/19 03:39 PM
1	Thoughts about men and women being “just friends”? This might sound harsh, but I think the guys who say that men and women can’t be friends are the ones who want to stick their dick in every woman they find aesthetically-pleasing and mainly see interaction with women as a means to that end. It is possible to have friends you think are attractive and not feel any attraction because you’re friends and that’s what feels right. But maybe not for everyone.	/r/ExRedPill	21/07/19 03:08 PM
3	Red pill and incel related sites/blogs will only fuck you up, even give you nightmares. All it does is make you bitter and can even destroy your personality. I’d rather not. It would be a waste of time and not produce anything of value. Their ideology claims those who disagree with it are doing it for emotional reasons that cloud their judgment. No matter what reasoning you use, if you disagree, they will think it all comes from a biased, emotional place, and to them all you say will be false.	/r/ExRedPill	21/07/19 02:54 PM
7	Red pill and incel related sites/blogs will only fuck you up, even give you nightmares. All it does is make you bitter and can even destroy your personality. The reason their ideology works on people is because it targets self-hating people and tells them the problem isn’t them as an individual, but that they don’t fulfill their male archetype well enough. That way people don’t have to confront any actual issues in themselves because they only have to be macho douchebags.	/r/ExRedPill	19/07/19 03:58 PM
6	Red pill and incel related sites/blogs will only fuck you up, even give you nightmares. All it does is make you bitter and can even destroy your personality. It's so they don't have to contend with the fact that most of society disagrees with their ideology on the basis of the real experiences they have as individuals. TRP is based on anecdotal stuff and it passes it off as science. They get the same standard of evidence from other people's anecdotes, so if they gave the same stock to other people's anecdotes, they would realize their view fails to describe people accurately because so many people have experiences that contradict TRP ideology. If you…	/r/ExRedPill	19/07/19 04:31 AM
18	Red pill and incel related sites/blogs will only fuck you up, even give you nightmares. All it does is make you bitter and can even destroy your personality. I never was in their circle, but I've been looking at their ideology since it became big on reddit. I've noticed it's very anti-individualist. They view individuals and their fate as how good they are at being their own gender according to TRP standards. I think the ideology is stemmed from and fueled by self-hatred. In this case, people hate themselves and it helps to believe that the inadequacies they perceive in themselves are a result of them not being true to their own nature as a male. Bec…	/r/ExRedPill	19/07/19 04:18 AM
1	Does love even exist at this point? People try to explain love with their layman perspectives of it as a pair bond or some animal instinct, but it's really not that simple. No field of science understands exactly what love is, how it works, or why it exists. TRP tries to explain everything with their layman evopsych, which is highly dubious considering evopsych in universities isn't science since it is made up of speculations which can't be experimentally examined. The fact that a trait exists doesn't mean it was naturally selecte…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/18 02:05 AM
2	Why are men more lenient with their standards when they attain an attractive woman? Some guys focus more on having a woman they're attracted to than all of the other things that matter in any kind of relationship with another human because they inflate the importance of sex. But this is guys with low standards. There are some men who are not so primitive that a woman being able to get them off will make up for a complete lack of joy in being with them in all other respects. Trust me, it's more common than you think for a guy to be attracted to a woman and maybe have sex with he…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/18 01:28 AM
1	Standards for men are much higher than for women There is no general set of standards because individuals vary. It's flawed to presuppose that there is one. The standards you list are not everyone's. Looking good for a women implies some genetic luck and some maintenance while a man has to have top genetics, put a huge amount of work and dedication. I would say this is true for me, but for some guys there are almost no standards and others want nothing less than fancy-looking (for lack of a better word). This may be controversial for some peop…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/18 06:33 PM
1	Why are women more likely to feel "used" by sex? Because casual sex above relationships is encouraged for men, so you're going to have more scenarios where a man wants casual sex while the woman wants a relationship. It's nothing innate. You could reverse the whole dynamic and replace sex with money only because men make more money than women on average and it is more okay for a woman to be unemployed and mooch off of a man than the other way around. This is all based on conditional things and there is nothing innate to find here. Pretty much …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/18 06:20 PM
1	Physical attractiveness. I'll make this easy: Different people have different opinions of what good-looking is, and different people care more about looks than others. It only looks different with different genders because society gives different ideals to men and women. Men are told to gain status and power and women are told to be pretty. Typical behavior will reflect these norms, but the fact that they are norms does not mean they are innate. Anecdotally (like everyone else in this sub), I have met women who judged g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/03/18 03:23 AM
1	In this day and age, is talking to women you don't know creepy? :/ It's only happened a few times out of many going out to bars. I'm kind of a weirdo and most of the time I never talk to anyone. None of the conversations I had with them went anywhere.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/03/18 02:15 AM
1	In this day and age, is talking to women you don't know creepy? :/ I've had that happen and that's why I don't really approach. It's something I'm working on. I feel like such a pest going up to a random person and talking to them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/18 02:02 PM
2	In this day and age, is talking to women you don't know creepy? :/ I'm a socially awkward introvert and don't really approach women, but my experience has been it varies. Like if you're at a bar for instance, some people go there just to talk to their friends, and some are more open to talking to people they meet there. I've had more women initiate conversations with me at bars than the other way around, but I'm also boring so it didn't go anywhere. Initiating conversations hasn't really gone well for me, but the fact that women have gone up to me and spoken to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/18 01:53 PM
3	Women need to accept that men decide what makes a woman " high quality/value " Not really. Your preferences overlapping with other people's doesn't mean your preferences are objective somehow.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/18 11:49 AM
4	Women need to accept that men decide what makes a woman " high quality/value " Not really. Your preferences overlapping with other people's doesn't mean your preferences are objective somehow.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/18 11:49 AM
1	RedPillers, where do you find sources from your beliefs? My speculation is a lot of these guys bought the pussy-on-the-pedestal message in pop culture when they were teenagers and were developing their sexuality. And during this time (or maybe even into their twenties) they had this overeager, submissive, servile attitude that got their heart broken. They took it especially hard because pussy and/or relationships are supposed to be the most meaningful things in life. Then they look at the girl who broke it and see that she is into guys who are less se…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/18 03:05 AM
6	Women need to accept that men decide what makes a woman " high quality/value " No one decides value because people vary. If you look at humans as individuals instead of straining to dichotomize their entire nature based on their sex, it's a lot easier to see. What one person likes is high value to them. That's it. High value exists in the relation of a person and a thing they find valuable. It does not exist externally. Unfortunately, people end up confused and think that a bunch of people finding the same thing to be valuable is the same as the value existing intrinsicall…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/18 02:35 AM
1	Q4BP: Do you think that women are inherently more moral than men? Females fight over the same things males do in the animal kingdom. There is no general male or female behavior in the animal kingdom because it depends so much on particular species. Looking at the natural world to understand our own nature is problematic because there is so much variation in the natural world that it does not necessarily apply enough to human experience that we can gain insights about human experience from studying the natural world. All our sexes are are based around roles in …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/18 03:36 AM
6	Q4BP: Do you think that women are inherently more moral than men? Not really true. Female competition is every bit as prevalent as male. Female chimps kill the babies of rival females. Bees and ants are matriarchies populated almost exclusively by females and the subordinate females are killed if they try to be queens. We must be careful to not look at the natural world with our assumptions about humans.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/18 06:11 PM
1	CMV: redpillers are the real alpha/Chad widows The guy in my high school who got laid the most was less than 5'7, looked borderline anorexic, wore glasses, and had a sort of emo style. I didn't interact with him much, but he seemed like a nice easygoing guy and I never heard anything bad about him except people finding his promiscuity bad. It's easy to have highly simplified, stereotyped, inaccurate views of people when you don't interact with many of them and spend an exorbitant amount of time coming up with crazy ideas online. I think the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/18 03:40 AM
4	CMV: redpillers are the real alpha/Chad widows I don't exactly disagree, but I would argue that most of the time Chad is an imaginary caricature that is created off of their heavily-filtered perception of another person who they demonize for having what they do not (sex) and rarely if ever exists. I say this because Chads are usually described as a very specific type of person, and perhaps the most definitive aspect of them is that they are attractive to women (for an alleged universal instinctual reason) and all other aspects of them contri…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/18 04:02 AM
3	CMV: redpillers are the real alpha/Chad widows I think what they mean by validation isn't knowing they are attractive to women, but feeling as though their own existence is validated by being attractive to women. They seem to connect sex very strongly with validation when they talk up chads for getting lots of sex, which implies they see themselves as not validated because of their lack of sex. That's how I interpreted it anyway.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/18 03:25 AM
1	CMV: Chads are just Nice Guys who got what they wanted Here's the thing: being conventionally attractive and successful with women doesn't necessarily make you lack resentment or entitlement towards women, and not being conventionally attractive or successful with women doesn't necessarily make you resentful or entitled. This is based on interactions with people in real life and on reddit: I've met guys who were overweight and called themselves ugly and had a level-headed attitude about dating. They're respectful, and see women as people who don't o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/18 03:25 AM
1	Something I've noticed about TRPs.... Pretty much. I would love for them to submit their ideas to an academic journal because they would be laughed out of it. Not to mention evopysch itself is a field consisting of nothing but speculation since there's no way to do experiments in it. Their delusions of what real masculinity and femininity are are just a denial of the fact that there are women in this world more powerful than them, and powerful men who are okay with that, which makes them feel even smaller than being low on the totem…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/18 01:02 AM
1	Something I've noticed about TRPs.... Well, having read TRP's "evopsych" and having had debates about it with terpers, I'm inclined to think they usually don't have any degrees (at least not any in science) because their evopsych ideas of humanity display such an ignorance of zoology and evolution that it could not come from anyone who ever had to take a class on those things. I think terpers are men who feel worthless in society and feel like maybe they'd be less worthless in the good ol' days when women stayed at home and couldn't…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/18 12:54 AM
1	CMV: Internet communities attract overly dramatic people Oh. I thought you were making a sarcastic comment implying they have to believe it's objective for it to work for them. As in certain people claim the "secure, attractive, successful, and want monogamy" men have something wrong with them? Yeah. I can't pinpoint anyone, but I've seen it from PUA blogs and redpill posts. They assume men are wired to want to maximize the amount of women they sleep with and men only convince they want monogamy because they're betas who don't think they can score or …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/18 01:47 AM
1	CMV: Internet communities attract overly dramatic people More like they come up with oversimplified ideas of masculinity, femininity, and human value and filter their human experience through them and pretend any evidence to the contrary is denial of (what they believe to be) nature and proves their made-up rules instead of ruling them out. For instance, they'll claim women are wired to use men and gold dig, and if any woman points out that they don't think that way, they'll claim she's unaware of her own "true" intentions so they can dismiss direct e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/18 09:08 PM
3	CMV: Internet communities attract overly dramatic people But their ideas of value are not universal. Just because people think something exists and act as if it does does not mean it is real.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/18 02:48 AM
6	CMV: Internet communities attract overly dramatic people It boggles my mind the way people throw around "low value" and "high value" as if a person's value doesn't vary to others and there is some objective way of defining it period.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/18 02:21 AM
1	CMV: Men only hate hypergamous women because they themselves are not the best man. The men who benefit don't complain about it. You already said I tried "to" hard to sound smart. That's obvious. Try to be better at being condescending.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/18 01:28 AM
1	CMV: Men only hate hypergamous women because they themselves are not the best man. The men who benefit don't complain about it. No, you are just ignorant. I am not interested in sounding smart to you. I'm interested in your ignorance not existing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/18 12:52 AM
1	CMV: Men only hate hypergamous women because they themselves are not the best man. The men who benefit don't complain about it. I said that originally. The point you have missed continually is that the influence does not necessarily mean what you think it means. An association between a hormone and a specific behavior is not the same as understanding a hormone as causing a specific behavior. Correlation is not causation. Everything we know about how our minds relates to our hormones is from association, not understanding how each mental state is made in the brain. You sure as hell are not a professional or student in any…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/18 12:21 AM
1	CMV: Men only hate hypergamous women because they themselves are not the best man. The men who benefit don't complain about it. Go back to neuroscience without addressing hormones? Hormones are studied in neuroscience. Hormones do affect behavior, exactly how they "cause" specific ones is not known. We only have associations, not mechanisms. I said this all in more detail in my original post.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/18 03:47 PM
1	How much do you care about what strangers think of your partner? Do you even know without talking to them? Who cares?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/18 03:06 PM
1	Why do you choose to adopt such a bleak view of life? Life is life and is more vast than any of your fleeting emotions. Defining it by any single one of them is silly.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/18 02:59 PM
1	CMV: Men only hate hypergamous women because they themselves are not the best man. The men who benefit don't complain about it. If they're not that complex, why are you not contributing to scientific journals? Neuroscience experts agree the human brain is the most complicated object in the universe. You're missing out on some Nobel prizes. In all seriousness, you're ignorant about human biology.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/18 02:53 PM
1	CMV: Men only hate hypergamous women because they themselves are not the best man. The men who benefit don't complain about it. And you know that from taking blood samples from everyone and analyzing them? Having hormones, and the levels they're at, how they interact with other hormones, and how certain environmental factors can affect the hormones are another thing. There's also the fact that hormones don't all just do one thing what we know about what hormones "do" is from seeing the presence of them and seeing something else happening and associating the two. The causative relationship between "x hormone is present wh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/18 06:08 AM
3	All those allegations of sexual misconduct Now, today, of course, women don't actually like sex, and guys still do. It's sad that a guy cannot hit up hot girls for sex without it being harassment anymore. Ever heard of /r/tinder or bumble?	/r/MensRights	11/11/17 03:41 AM
2	Why Nice Guys Don't Get Laid!! - By AlexSocial (Formerly RSD Alex) Nice guys do get laid, but maybe not in this guy's fantasy world.	/r/seduction	07/04/16 04:25 PM