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I'm confused at how you'd be surprised that what's said by online redpill influncers doesn't reflect real life? Did you not meet real live women, during your life?
/r/ExRedPill16/11/25 01:00 AM
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You reacted in the best way possible. Congratulations on your freedom from this life destroying toxicity. It took me a good month to start feeling 'good' about my long overdue decision to get away from a person who spouted increasingly nasty beliefs as time went on, and I put up with it... Until I didn't. Be strong, be kind to yourself, don't explain yourself again, ride out the initial confused period. Leave him to enjoy whatever pills he chooses to swallow in peace- don't let him back into you…
/r/ExRedPill26/10/25 02:33 AM
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I've hardly met any irl women who are only interested in 'ripped' guys who live at the gym... the few I know who like that look are also very into the gym, one works in a gym. That seems to be a look that impresses other Men more than women (aside from gym women, obvs) These influencers tell gullible men that all women want a load of muscles, but...have they actually asked any women? 🤔😆 I've never been the slightest bit attracted to gym types, myself. Being 'randomly emotionally distant' is like…
/r/ExRedPill04/09/25 12:34 AM
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Especially happy couples where the man doesn't look like a model for a Gym ad, and also isn't rich in the slightest.
/r/ExRedPill31/08/25 04:12 PM
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I eventually did. It did take some time for me to finally snap though. I was hoping he'd see sense, but he appeared to get worse over time, and more consumption of the content, I assume.
/r/ExRedPill27/06/25 07:42 PM
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I did that. He didn't want to change his views so it was pointless trying.
/r/ExRedPill27/06/25 03:00 PM
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My advice would be to end the relationship.
/r/ExRedPill27/06/25 02:58 PM
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Yes. It feels personal, but it isn't. Scammers target everyone. Huge numbers of people are scammed in various ways in any given year. I was scammed by being 'sold' a product by a fake seller, the product obviously never arrived and they replied with all sorts of delaying e-mails, making me think I'd get the product. I thought to look up the company online and found out the same had happened to lots of other people. I called the authority you report fraud to (I forget the name) got a case number,…
/r/ExRedPill23/06/25 08:57 PM
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The 'world is out to get me' things that happen to you, like getting scammed, happen to women all the time too. I've been scammed and I felt the same. Being wronged makes us all feel angry and shitty. Your friends don't represent all women, they're just two individuals. By the same token, my shitty exes don't represent all men. Try to stop looking at general things that apply to people of any gender as somehow gender based. You already know that's not reality. Feelings of being alone with our is…
/r/ExRedPill23/06/25 04:16 PM
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I'm very surprised that anyone could believe that RP had any interest whatsoever in helping women. Perhaps 'helping' them to be more easily controlled and compliant? I see that.
/r/ExRedPill15/06/25 05:22 PM
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Only he can 'un redpill' himself. If he doesn't want to, you're wasting your time. I've tried it and wasted my time. Should have ended the relationship years earlier. Getting dumped for your redpill beliefs has been the catalyst for change for a few ex RP posters, but it's far from guaranteed. Many guys will simply blame the woman and attach untrue 'reasons,' "I wasn't rich enough for her" or whatever, rather than doing any introspection re: their beliefs and why they're a woman repellant.
/r/ExRedPill03/06/25 06:32 PM
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Only he can 'un redpill' himself. If he doesn't want to, you're wasting your time. I've tried it and wasted my time. Should have ended the relationship years earlier. Getting dumped for your redpill beliefs has been the catalyst for change for a few ex RP posters, but it's far from guaranteed. Many guys will simply blame the woman and attach untrue 'reasons,' "I wasn't rich enough for her" or whatever, rather than doing any introspection re: their beliefs and why they're a woman repellant.
/r/ExRedPill03/06/25 06:32 PM
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Does he not think you're classed as a 'modern woman?' My ex's daughter appears to be one, afaik, pretty sure he'd view her with disdain if she wasn't his daughter, due to her having several attributes that are disliked by redpillers.
/r/ExRedPill03/06/25 05:23 PM
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I'd say none of them are the prizes they screech they are. Their views ensure that. My redpill ex has a daughter, I'm willing to bet that he doesn't tell her any of the stuff he said to me. I'm so sorry that your dad is like this.
/r/ExRedPill02/06/25 11:01 AM
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The whole 'value' concept is gross. It's viewing human beings as a product with a price tag. It sounds like you've brainwashed yourself very thoroughly with toxic content. You need to work on getting rid of the beliefs.
/r/ExRedPill29/04/25 06:23 PM
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They don't even come up with their 'logic' themselves, it's merely regurgitation of the opinions of various 'influencers.' I say 'opinions' because I've not seen or experienced the things these people say in my own life- quite the opposite, in many cases. ie the 'chad' business- their belief that ALL women are only attracted to a tiny percentage of men, based on a particular set of 'attributes.' This in no way resembles the lived experience of myself as a woman, or of women I've known/know perso…
/r/ExRedPill24/04/25 05:34 PM
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Yes, these things are true but both are old fashioned ideas- and the military thing defo doesn't apply in certain countries...namely Israel. A female Israeli family friend of mine (now in her 70's) was forced to be in the army for 2 years, as all young people there still are. She REALLY hated it but it wasn't a choice. I know women who have been in the army in a few countries. The women and children first thing is due to the fact that women are still viewed as the primary caregivers of children-…
/r/ExRedPill23/04/25 04:51 PM
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OK, so, I'm middle aged, I've lived in a few different countries and met a relatively wide range of people. Throughout my life I've known/know many men who don't look like models, aren't rich- some are broke, aren't tall, are bald/crooked teeth, bit of a tummy etc etc (ie average looking humans.) I know several Men who are my height (bit under 5'4") who also have none of the 'chad attributes' described by redpill influencers, who have no trouble attracting women, they're either long term partner…
/r/ExRedPill23/04/25 10:59 AM
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Tbh, as a real live woman, this is an idea that I've only heard recently- and only ever heard in relation to 'The Manosphere' and the toxic beliefs springing from it. I'm fairly 'mature' in years and have always been under the distinct impression that society places less value on women than it does on men. The only time I've seen/heard of women viewed as having high 'value' (for simply being a woman) is during pregnancy, which is shortlived. It shouldn't be surprising really, as I haven't actual…
/r/ExRedPill21/04/25 04:52 PM
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Riiiiight. I'll leave you to your misogynist echo chamber then.
/r/MensRights04/04/25 06:10 PM
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Why on earth would I bother to make that up!? 😂 Things will be different in various areas and countries, but I don't know a single woman who would be against men having men only spaces/groups (unless they are based on misogyny.) The tiny number of man hating extremists are not 'feminists.' They represent women as much as extremist misogynists represent (all) Men...ie, they really, really don't.
/r/MensRights04/04/25 01:39 PM
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I'm not on Instagram. Oops! Very silly of me to think that you'd hear anything a woman had to say.
/r/MensRights03/04/25 09:16 AM
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Do you seriously think that mothers aren't ever abusive/neglectful of daughters? '...grow up lost and confused and are expected to somehow figure life out on their own...' Describes my experience perfectly- as a girl.
/r/MensRights02/04/25 10:51 PM
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There are numerous Men only groups/Men's 'spaces' (they call them Men's sheds) where I live...it's not even a city, I can't imagine how many there would be dotted around larger cities. I do not know any women who are against this, in fact I've only ever seen women promoting them on social media, to inform their male friends/family. Misogynistic groups focused on hating women would be another story entirely- but I've only seen positive groups with the purpose of increasing men's wellbeing/MH- rat…
/r/MensRights02/04/25 10:39 PM
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Funny, the people I've seen actively promoting male centred spaces and 'Men only' groups online have been women. I've given info on them to Men myself. My ex used to whine that there were "No groups for men, like women have!" without actually taking a minute to look them up 🙄 I gave him a fairly long list of Men only groups/classes near him- including various martial arts, gardening, yoga, peer support groups and 'Men's sheds.' There was more available at our local centre for men only than for w…
/r/MensRights02/04/25 10:31 PM
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How exactly is gaming a 'male space?' A penis is not required to play games.
/r/MensRights02/04/25 10:03 PM
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Well yeah. How else could I possibly see them? However, the men you mention here are influencers of incels, not actual incels.
/r/ExRedPill02/04/25 05:15 PM
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Basically, the answer is that a woman is always wrong, whatever she does. They simply hate women. Women are useful for various types of service though, so they pursue us, while despising us. They'd be much better off staying away from women and buying a blow up sex doll.
/r/ExRedPill27/03/25 03:08 PM
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You have self awareness and tools to help you work on it. This sub is a good start, you'll hopefully be able to find positive male influences, via ex-redpill men here.
/r/ExRedPill27/03/25 11:12 AM
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Yet a woman who did 'the right things,' got married young, had kids- but became single later, is 'low value' and 'damaged goods' too.
/r/ExRedPill27/03/25 11:08 AM
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I think of Tyrone as an Irish guy, I was very confused by that one 😂
/r/ExRedPill27/03/25 12:37 AM
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The problem with that idea is that they are not remotely interested in the majority of women- the ones who don't look like models. Yet they want women who spend an enormous amount of time and effort on their appearance to have no 'standards,' and miraculously be interested in Mr grease-hair, trolling away in his mom's basement (stereotype, but you get the idea.) They are entitled to have 'standards,' but they don't believe that women are.
/r/ExRedPill25/03/25 01:15 AM
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It seems like they only want to 'get' a certain type of girl, in order to be validated by other men. They don't actually seem interested in women at all. The pretty girl is merely a tool to impress men, like a flashy new car or something. It may be the same for shallow girls/women who are concerned with height, gym bodies etc on men- they don't want the 'model man' for his personality...they're just not openly filled with hatred, bile and spite like the guys are...they're not terrifying and dang…
/r/ExRedPill24/03/25 10:03 PM
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What exactly did you think women wanted? I'm glad you've realised it was a lie. We need men who have experience with it to educate other men and boys. They obviously won't listen to anything women have to say, once they've thrown themselves into that cesspit.
/r/ExRedPill24/03/25 09:51 PM
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So true. RP ideology literally preys on boys and men with self esteem issues.
/r/ExRedPill06/03/25 12:48 PM
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The views and attitudes prevalent in 'The Manosphere' are what's ugly. I looked at pictures of self described incels who were wailing about being ugly (in an article about Incels where some were interviewed.) They looked very ordinary to me. I couldn't possibly guess which features they felt made them 'ugly.' The real barrier for these guys is the one they refuse to acknowledge or examine... It's not their looks that preclude them from having relationships (or sex) with women, it's their toxic v…
/r/ExRedPill04/03/25 04:31 PM
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If you're describing them like that, please stay away from women you're not paying. Just find someone who does it as a job, and pay them.
/r/ExRedPill01/03/25 04:20 PM
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Just...don't look at or listen to 'Manosphere' content. You do get to choose which content you consume. My ex got into it in a big way and started spouting all sorts of toxic rubbish. I had a look at some of the influencers to see where it was coming from. I noticed that once I'd watched a couple the algorithm kept giving me more, so there's that to watch out for. You will need to flick through a lot of other non-toxic content to change what it suggests to you- you need to be shutting the toxic …
/r/ExRedPill20/02/25 02:44 PM
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Exactly this. I guess incels are of the mindset that 'females' need a man (and obvs that man should be them, for reasons unknown.) They can't fathom choosing to be alone rather than with someone who hates your gender and doesn't view you as a human being, equal to them. The fact that the young, attractive supermodel types they think they 'deserve' wouldn't touch them with a ten foot barge pole, makes them very angry. I think this is because a 'female' isn't a person to them. She's a thing to use…
/r/ExRedPill20/02/25 10:14 AM
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They most definitely don't like women. They like the appearance and bodies of an extremely narrow range of 'females.'
/r/ExRedPill20/02/25 09:38 AM
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This is what I kept trying to explain to my ex who fell into it. This ideology IS what drives women away from them, while they blame women for not being interested in them because of 'their looks,' 'not being rich enough,' 'not being over 6ft tall' etc- none of these things are actual reasons to be disinterested in a man amongst women I know in real life.
/r/ExRedPill14/02/25 10:19 AM
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YOU don't want Men who think this way. Problem is, they will pretend they don't until you're actually in a relationship with them. My ex only started spouting this rubbish when I'd known him for years. And we're middle aged, I'd 'hit the wall' years before we met (so had he! 😆 he's older than me.) I have friends who got together and had 2 kids in their 40's, I know quite a few 40ish+ first time mums, most of the others were 30+, so these incel idiots cut-off point of 30 is kind of hilarious to m…
/r/ExRedPill14/02/25 10:09 AM
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Why are you obsessing over a female friend if you have a family life and partner? That behaviour isn't going to make her think 'inexperienced' it's going to make her think 'scary,' you come across as a potential threat. I'd be backing away from that sort of 'friendship' very fast. I've have this happen with a male friend. He had told me that he wasn't attracted to me at all, I wasn't attracted to him, we were platonic friends for years. He had a girlfriend for much of that time. This made it dif…
/r/ExRedPill13/02/25 01:55 PM
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From what I observe, there are a HUGE number of Conservatives who are 'Christian' in name only. Hating and punishing the poor, hating LGBTQ+ people, single mothers (etc...) is extremely Un-Christian. I view true Christianity to mean actually following the teachings of Jesus Christ. Jesus himself appears to have been totally disregarded by these people...I mean, there's absolutely no doubt that they'd hate him if he was born today- brown skinned, with low income unhoused parents! I'm neither Chri…
/r/ExRedPill10/02/25 02:58 PM
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You need to be strong in yourself, to focus on what's right for YOU and resist what isn't. It must be extremely tough growing up in a highly religious environment if the belief system doesn't work for you, or causes you undue stress. I've read numerous posts and comments from younger Christians and Muslims re parents trying to force outdated traditions on them. I know there are subs/online groups for ex-Muslims, but I'm unsure if that applies to you (or might apply in future.) You definitely nee…
/r/ExRedPill09/02/25 07:12 PM
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Aging doesn't really 'add value' to Men- that only applies to Men who build wealth over their lifetime. For those who categorise human beings in terms of 'value,' aging can add (monetary) value to wealthy people of any gender. People whose wealth/power/prestige has increased over their years of being alive. The 'value' part is the ability of an older person to attract much younger, attractive partners- who would not be remotely interested in them in the absence of the money/power/prestige. It's …
/r/ExRedPill09/02/25 06:55 PM
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Well yes, it makes total sense that a person who wants to travel would choose not to be tied to one location by a serious relationship. It also makes sense to devote the majority of your energy towards building a career in your 20's, if that's your goal. Do Men not do these things too? I know several Men who have remained single/only had casual relationships because their lifestyles are focused on travelling or working long hours. I don't understand why you'd think that women would be different …
/r/ExRedPill01/02/25 05:31 PM
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It sounds like you're stuck in a mindset of 'Women are all the same.' You repeat 'women don't really want relationships,' even after women have told you that's not the case. Many women stay in bad relationships precisely because they feel they need to be in a relationship, rather than alone- I've done it myself, to my detriment. People (of all genders) will tolerate poor treatment if they're of the erroneous belief that having a partner is always better than being alone/they fear being alone/the…
/r/ExRedPill01/02/25 05:01 PM
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I'm so glad that you met someone normal! (ie not interested in the horseshit.) It seems harder and harder these days, especially since the tactics involve pretending to be a 'nice guy' and saying what she wants to hear, in order to 'win the game.'
/r/ExRedPill16/01/25 12:06 AM
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Except, they don't want 'just anyone.' An average looking or plump 'female' will not do! They want young 'females' who look like models, who are wiling or able to be coerced into being a trad wife...but not a 'gold digger,' obvs! Demure late teens Wifey is somehow supposed to stay home popping out kids and taking care of hubby, while paying half the expenses and never ageing or putting on weight 🙄 I've experienced RP rhetoric and idolisation of various misogynists from an older man, who I'm no l…
/r/ExRedPill15/01/25 11:54 PM
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Thing is, there isn't an actual definition of 'What women are attracted to,' aside from being viewed and treated as complete human beings, equal to men. This is the blindingly obvious thing that makes red pill types highly unattractive- however they look physically/however much money they have. Attractiveness is really not about what the grifters tell you it is. Women are individuals with different preferences. The whole red pill idea that ALL women are only attracted to a narrow set of characte…
/r/ExRedPill13/01/25 11:30 AM
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Riiiiiight...
/r/ExRedPill05/11/24 12:19 AM
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Could you explain what you mean by 'shit tests?' As a real, live woman (as opposed to the imaginary ones you're told about by misogynist influencers) I'm clueless.
/r/ExRedPill16/10/24 02:39 PM
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I literally did think that, in my last relationship with someone who I now suspect is 'redpilled.' He went off on rants about 'Men want young women,' me 'hitting the wall' etc- I guess to try and make me feel insecure as an older woman, like I don't have other options. Thing is, women are now wising up to this rubbish, thanks in large part to online groups and the broader knowledge they provide re 'the manosphere.' I only recognised that things my ex said were the regurgitated words of misogynis…
/r/ExRedPill03/10/24 12:07 PM
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'Cold approach,' aka randomly bothering women who are doing something else/trying to go about their day/trying to get a bit of time alone/at work in a service role where their job is to be polite (etc) can feel intrusive, irritating and offputting to women. When I've had it done to me my first thought is usually "how do I get away?" Especially when approached in quiet places when I'm trying to have a solitary walk or sit and read my book (it's happened on beaches a couple of times, that was scar…
/r/ExRedPill03/10/24 11:22 AM
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A lot of what they claim is utterly ridiculous.
/r/ExRedPill16/09/24 06:16 PM
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There's a capitalistic logic to it (not sure if capitalistic is a word, but you know what I mean.) The terms they use follow this line of belief- like 'sexual/dating marketplace.' It seems to me that it's about viewing human beings as products, rather than individual people. Some products are 'worth' more than others, so they cost more than 'an inferior product,' ie a 'low value' man or woman. The cost of the high value 'product' is paid for using the other person's 'value,' ie an old, rich man …
/r/ExRedPill15/09/24 05:38 PM
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Thanks. It's not exactly a happy time for me, I'm now extremely isolated due to the choice I felt forced to make...It came down to 'me or the manosphere,' the misogynists he idolises won. If their aim is to create more incels by teaching Men to completely alienate Women, they're succeeding.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/24 08:41 PM
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From what I've read, Manosphere subscribed men decide their 'value' based on their wealth and appearance, so I'm confused at how a broke, average looking dude thinks he's 'high value' because he's over 50. It's...bizarre, even by 'manosphere beliefs' standards. I'd not say that women have higher 'value,' as the men in circles that place shallow 'value' systems on human beings are only interested in young women, and primarily want to use them for sex and to gain status by having 'the newest' arm …
/r/ExRedPill14/09/24 07:58 PM
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My recent ex spouted this stuff about Women declining in 'value' with age, while Men's 'value' increases. Personally I think this actually applies (in the reality of this shallow society- which I don't personally like) not due to age but to wealth. His/manosphere beliefs are based on the assumption that Men's wealth increases with age- when in reality this isn't the case for everyone- it certainly isn't for my ex. A poor 50 something Man's 'value' hasn't magically increased simply because he's a…
/r/ExRedPill14/09/24 01:37 PM
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