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All people are attractive if they are at a good weight and bf%. Men have not been taught how to style and groom themselves very well, and so most of them do not. Most men that I see have ALMOST got it, they just need a fix in their hair or clothes. This is what women continuously do with themselves throughout their lives so I don’t understand why you think they are born with these assets, you even acknowledge the use of artificial fixes rather than natural looks. So many of you have potential, h…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 06:18 AM
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Leaving your husband is not mistreatment. Not finding most men attractive is not mistreatment. Women being violent towards men is mistreatment, but as you have acknowledged, it does not happen at as high of a rate as vice versa. Of course women sometimes do bad and anti-social things towards men, but aside from the first point about education discrimination, absolutely zero of these occur due to women’s beliefs about men. They cannot be strictly classified as “male mistreatment”. “This mistreatm…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 06:08 AM
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That is fantastic for you. But I am assuming you’ve made this post to see what judgement women have towards v-tubers, rather than the viewers of v-tubers, correct? You will find that there is more disgust towards the system that has been set up to please male viewers than to the people creating this content.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:16 PM
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Notice how barely anyone said that they actually fight for men’s rights. C’mon, are you just here to complain a little or do you actually give that much of a shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:11 PM
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Right, so it’s not about judging the viewer but judging the creator? Quite ridiculous; people only create because they know a demographic will watch it. It’s not a chicken or egg situation. I don’t think a v-tuber should be judged for benefitting off a system that works consistently. It’s not like they invented the lewd way in which men perceive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:03 PM
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I thought women’s attraction morality came about because of their tendency to require personality and depth when feeling attraction towards something, whereas men just have to find it physically arousing? I can understand where whatever this female opinion you’ve used has come from, but I do not share it completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:56 PM
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I think it’s weird. I think almost all aspects of male attraction are weird. It feels like a “never enough” sort of thing. Women don’t have a strong urge to mate with a wide variety of men, and it seems men have an urge to (hypothetically) mate with a wide variety of… anything at all. I don’t worry for v-tubers, they’re anonymous and getting paid, I just worry for the poor brains of the men that overconsume their content.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:41 PM
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Yes, I’d love to. I don’t like most of the beliefs tied to my gender. I can’t relate to much besides hormonal patterns. But that’s a personal issue; I’d likely have issues relating to any social norms that are bound to form regardless in this post-gender society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:27 PM
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First one may be true to the title, rest are not specifically bad or anti-social actions towards men as a whole. As evidence of misandry, most of this unfortunately means nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:21 PM
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Buddy there’s nothing moderate-high IQ about discussing how you’re going to waste money on sports betting. Not all male experiences are the same, and not all female experiences are the same, cuz shockingly enough, no one person is the same. Biologically, though, we have different conversational styles. For men it’s “look at together” for women it’s “feel with together”. In simple terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:21 AM
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Nah, don’t put the “male” in front of it. He’s a slut, let him know
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:40 AM
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I sort of see this perspective; I was at a family gathering today and noticed how the women wanted to talk about this and that with one another, meanwhile the men were mostly sitting to the side and chatting about very task-oriented things like horse betting and car engines and shit. Probably not the best example, but I can gather that friendships are about simply proximity and sharing when it comes to women, which is why we feel they should be applicable to everyone. Oxytocin hunting could most…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:39 AM
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OP isn’t necessarily saying that it’s a bad thing, it can however become negative for a woman if it happens nearly every time she attempts to befriend a male. While it is not perceived as harmful by a man, it shows a pattern that a woman can interpret as her only being wanted for sex rather than conversation and quality time. There’s nothing strange about developing feelings for a female friend, though. What is particularly strange is the common occurrence of men ending friendships with women wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:28 AM
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…no, I think if I asked any other woman in real life they would agree. I’ve had discussions about this with my friends before. No man in real life would believe it because, as you’ve worded it, they think it’s ridiculous. Which is partially why they still fail at attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 01:38 AM
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I mean that it’s almost impossible to come across men who dress, act, and groom themselves for the approval of women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 01:15 PM
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That’s such a useless answer. Of course no one is fully comfortable with themselves, but people can be more or less comfortable with themselves and others. Nobody has the same noisy scrutinising voice in their head; for some people it’s quieter, and for others it is barely there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 01:09 PM
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There are literally reddit subs dedicated to sharing nude pictures of wives, girlfriends, friends, relatives, etc. without them knowing. There are so many platforms to share info about women non-consensually already, will it only make you happy once every woman has been doxxed and photographed naked? Please cool it, I’m sick of this
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 12:59 PM
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Bad enough to not feel comfortable with themselves around other people. I personally don’t feel comfortable with myself, especially in intimate situations, so I no longer seek them out cause I’ve realised I don’t feel prepared. Women who are comfortable with themselves are the ones who are having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 12:48 PM
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If someone was that bad at socialising, why would they even have a partner or much sex in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:48 AM
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I can relate to this as a socially awkward and anxious person, but it truly does not mean the majority of women feel this way. Most sex happens within relationships, with a partner you’re comfortable with and know well. Performance anxiety is not the issue here, it’s the historical neglect and unawareness of the female orgasm that continues to this day
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:42 AM
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Hearing this more and more nowadays. No hope for us poor girls
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:38 AM
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I can count the number of times I’ve met a man who tries to look good specifically for women rather than men on one hand. Two of them are gay, and I am obsessed with the other one. Three total.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:35 AM
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Why… do people still think this is how most women are. It has been proven wrong. Continuously. From a personal perspective, I’d say that the women who are “getting fucked every Friday with a new man throughout their twenties” are extremely scarce. I’ve met one singular woman who would go around fucking someone monthly, however most women I know of are either in long term relationships, or getting laid 0-2 times per year. From a much broader perspective, we see a very rare trend of only 13% of wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:59 PM
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…no, it has been scientifically proven that fetuses cannot feel pain until 24 weeks of pregnancy. That is 5 months, I truly do not think many people at all are having abortions past that length.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:51 PM
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Haha, reading these comments is making me gayer. I’m losing more and more attraction to men, it’s kind of scary
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 02:12 AM
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Of course not. A kid can think, feel and speak. They have already developed into a human being. A fetus has not developed yet, it doesn’t exist as a person
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 02:02 AM
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Well if you take that stance, you’d have to argue it’s immoral as fuck to eat a burger because a cow was killed for it. Are you pro-life, or just pro-fetus? Fetuses cannot think, feel, or speak. They might be able to do so once they are birthed, but they do not when they are aborted. It would be more immoral to knowingly welcome a child into your life knowing that you don’t have the resources, empathy, and will to raise it. A living human will feel so much pain for being brought into a life comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 01:52 AM
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Why not, though? Why does this matter to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:27 PM
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Because giving birth is painful as fuck, and changes your whole entire body, and doubles your expenses, and gives the child absolutely nothing good if you didn’t want to have it in the first place. Do you want to go through that and be responsible for the trauma of a child that you were aware you could not support? Honestly, every pro-lifer’s opinion is null to me unless they’re pro-life on everything. If you’re not an activist vegan or some shit then you probably don’t give as much as a fuck as…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:50 AM
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Sexy in a video game or show, definitely a red flag in real life. People who are almost constantly “performing” are either terrifying or incredibly insecure. Make your insecurities known, I don’t wanna dig for them and get the cold shoulder for not acknowledging them from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:34 AM
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Men are committing more crimes because they have 10x the amount of testosterone that women do. It’s continuously proven to be a biological correlation, not a sociological one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:19 PM
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This would solve men’s dating issues, but it would give women (majority of whom are straight and monogamous) many issues of their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:17 PM
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And is that not a bit depressing? Being with someone you don’t love for who they truly are?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:23 PM
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Of course I have empathy for men. I literally told my male coworker yesterday I’ll try to give him a loan for his international student fees if he needs it, although I’m lowkey broke too. What I don’t have empathy for, is any arguments made about what women can do (romantically or sexually) to make men’s lives better. I will of course feel bad for you if you can’t get a date, but you should not expect anything aside from that. I struggle to feel empathy for a lot of issues discussed within the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:23 PM
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Lifting really heavy things. But not all men can do that, and honestly I think women can lift heavy enough for society to prosper. Actually if there are no men then we won’t be able to write gay mlm fanfiction anymore. That really hurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:14 PM
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You’re partially right. Men and women give advice to one another, tailored to their own beliefs and gendered perspectives. Which is why your whole speculation about women struggling with dating needing to involve mental disorders or unrealistic ideations is simply incorrect. Women who actually struggle with getting a partner tend to be socially awkward and shy, or have deep issues with the way men perceive them. These are mental struggles, but certainly not indicative of psychological instabilit…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:10 PM
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What behaviours are we talking about? And honestly the amount of people, regardless of gender, willing to “negotiate” their behaviour and traits is quite minimal. I think it’s the perfect advice, to pick someone else. Picking someone whose personality is mentally straining for you and whom you can find more critiques within than positive attributes, sounds like a fucking nightmare. Don’t make your life more difficult by finding more things to complain about, just search for someone that you real…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 09:59 PM
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A brilliant and funny person wouldn’t be such a Negative Nancy. Chin up brother
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:38 AM
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100%. I’ve never dated and I don’t get approached much. But in cases that I have been approached by men I’m already interested in, my attraction does get stronger if they treat me well. So I’d say maybe 90%?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:08 AM
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His desire to have a lot of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 04:09 AM
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You definitely can brother 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:08 PM
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Yes, but you can’t certainly say that’s a societal issue involving privilege or suppression. You can easily pinpoint biological factors that might contribute to it, such as males having heightened impulsivity and increased chances of substance abuse and criminal activity, which can lead to homelessness if help is not sought.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:07 PM
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Most likely no. They would both just want to have a lot of sex
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 12:09 PM
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If she did it continuously, yes. If not, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 12:07 PM
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It makes you a creep when you add that second sentence for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 11:56 AM
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I partially agree with this, but I don’t think a single homeless person is homeless due to their gender…?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 11:55 AM
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Got my period exactly one hour before my final uni exam and now it’s over and I just genuinely don’t see a future for myself and I think I’m going to die prematurely and everything is bad. Like this isn’t even related the exam everything about me and my life is just terrible
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 11:51 AM
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So, the question isn’t actually about you. It’s about how many genuinely good guys you believe exist. Doesn’t matter too much if it can’t be answered realistically, it’s still the question. I understand your six figure job might be quite time consuming, but I’d recommend some comprehension classes on the side if your abundant wealth will allow for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 11:38 AM
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Nah. To answer your “real question”: none. I don’t overlook good men, I just struggle to know if people like me unless they tell me directly. Unfortunately not many people do, and the only ones that have, have treated me like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 11:32 AM
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Definitely, assuming the partner is male? You’re a bit unclear about that part, if he’s attracting his ideal partner, but wouldn’t his ideal partner be a woman if he were originally straight? Anyways, yeah. All he would have to do is put on makeup and a cute outfit, and work up the confidence to ask the ideal male partner out. He’d probably be approved right off the bat. Attracting men isn’t very complicated. I genuinely think he’d possibly be better at attracting a woman, than a woman born as a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 11:20 AM
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Righttt, so do you have an estimated percentage? Or fraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 11:14 AM
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Of course women are sending you mixed signals; they are billions of different people with diverse opinions, not a singular entity. There is no set of rules that is going to guarantee the social attraction of all women, you have to be a bit more narrow in your preferences and find out how to pursue a certain type of woman, or literally just a specific woman in your life. Men don’t understand what women want because they aren’t supposed to. A man can understand what one (1) woman wants if he asks …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:08 AM
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For me, people I surround myself with and the interests I engage in are what have shaped my personality. From ages 10-14 I used to be extremely unaware and insulting towards basically anyone as an attempt to be funny like my sister. She was, in some ways, my role model whilst growing up and I felt a lot of pressure to be like her because she had so many friends and seemed to be so happy, and also because she was mean to me (as most siblings are) and convinced me I would get bullied if I didn’t a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 02:36 AM
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Observation doesn’t really account for in-person communication, though. In shared spaces, both women and men may engage in negative discussion about one another. Lived experiences also influence one’s opinion, such as men being continuously rejected by women and women being continuously harassed by men. Having a sufficient perspective of reality is not exactly a good thing. Applying critical thinking to objective reality is very important, however you cannot actually think critically if you have…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 12:39 AM
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Dude, this guy I’m currently into makes half the money I do and likes reels about big muscular women who want to take care of you. I also prefer paying for people because it’s a good way to show my appreciation and care for someone, especially if my words aren’t really working. This guy also already has really good fashion sense and seems to look after himself well. I think I’m halfway there. Anyways, yes, I would truly enjoy that. My only additional requirement is that this man would have to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:51 AM
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Pretty similar to how I want my current dating life to go, although I also want to think I’d have more confidence to make first moves as a man. I’d get massive crushes on people, then court them like crazy, and eventually try asking them out (for a long term relationship). I get on a self improvement kick basically every week and look for new ways to make myself better (non-financial, I don’t want to possibly attract shallow people), so I would do the same as a man. If all of my self-improvement…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:31 AM
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This isn’t really unfairness, though. The majority of women end up with average men. The world reflects that, therefore there is not much unfairness born simply out of the small percentage of women going for awful men. Also, how is the quality of the women not relevant? A woman who has a preference for dangerous or criminal activity would only consciously act upon that preference if she weren’t a very good person. Simply put once more, why do women with an obvious poor moral standing (who go for…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:52 PM
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If people allow their problematic preferences to manifest in real life, it means they and the other people around them are going to get problematic consequences. Putting yourself, with full awareness, in a situation where people are going to tirelessly worry about you and even be cut off from you, is a pretty garbage thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:24 PM
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Cuck fetish
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:16 PM
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See, you’re looking at stats for crime that has occurred in relationships. Not stats for whether crime has or has not occurred in relationships. Average men, and the average women who partner them, make up the majority of all relationships. I doubt that any “extremes” entirely make up the 25% of abusive men in relationships, because that is simply not how statistics works. Just a quick change in search and you will find that it does not matter who women are with, there is always a 1 in 4 chance …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:09 PM
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Oh my god I do I just don’t lust as hard as men do in general, and my individual interests in certain average men aren’t going to be applicable to every average man in the world. Also, this whole “looking right through” people who don’t interest you thing is ridiculous. You can easily flip it around and say: Women do see average men as people, they just don’t see them as possible romantic/sexual prospects. Men don’t see average women as people, they just see them as possible romantic/sexual pros…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:26 AM
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No, it truly doesn’t matter. Heterosexual females being “built” for and “wired” to like male penetration is not only partially false (only about 17% are able to orgasm from it, males are actually more likely to orgasm from penetration alone), but is also not the primary reason you are more likely to see female sex workers. You are more likely to see female sex workers because most men are straight and horny, and would like to have sex with women. High demand, high supply. Sex work is done for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:18 AM
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Exactly. The topic is allowing someone to penetrate in exchange for money. Anal sex, vaginal sex, straight sex, gay sex; none of that actually matters. It’s not done for enjoyment, it’s done for money. I personally wouldn’t do it because I wouldn’t enjoy it. Even if it were a financial issue, it’s not a discomfort I would make myself go through. So, would you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 12:24 AM
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Haha, okay, tell me the difference please. Also, women don’t “let/allow” men to penetrate them if we’re talking casual sex and relationships. They ask or urge them to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 10:59 PM
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Male experiences in dating really, really suck. I am not going to deny this. But do you think that just because you can’t get laid, it’s a good excuse to be generally shitty to other people? We’re not asking that you attend like feminist rally’s or participate in women’s rights causes, that is definitely unnecessary and unpaid labour. But, overall, why shouldn’t you care about the safety of other people? Man or woman, if you see someone in danger, would you not do anything simply because you can…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 10:55 PM
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NO. Give me that now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 10:39 PM
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No, it’s a “people may or may not do this depending on their values and circumstances” type of gotcha. Not every man in financial distress would let a man penetrate them, so why do a lot of people believe that every woman in financial distress would let a man penetrate them? That’s not how shit works. People who make or do not make this choice have, y’know, free will, which is prevalent in the diversity of answers in this comment section. Not a huge talking point, but one that bothers me wheneve…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 10:38 PM
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Nothing else I can say besides Yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 01:17 PM
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If things regress, that’s when something like this would happen. The state of the world a hundred years ago is why there was a “women uprising” to allow us rights in the first place. However I do not think a regression will occur
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:58 PM
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I don’t think you realise “man flu” is a term for regular flu that has been catastrophised by a man
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 11:52 AM
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Okay I think everyone knows that the club is literally the only socially acceptable place in which you can hit on someone sexually. Have you seen any sapphic women do the same thing in work settings? Grocery stores? Libraries? Down the street?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:27 AM
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A lesbian is almost guaranteed not to hit on me in a way that insinuates sex. A man is significantly more likely to hit on me with the insinuation of sex. I don’t want to fuck some stranger. Strangers offering to fuck me is creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:54 AM
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Lean muscle. I know it’s a hell of a lot of hard work but getting that low bodyfat percentage can make anyone look a lot more attractive than before. And I don’t know how people “become” charismatic, so I can’t give any advice on that, but that’s probably the second most appealing factor
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:51 AM
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This sounds awful. And extremely childish. I don’t think any female friend groups over 25 years of age would ever act like this. And to be truly honest, I only remember stuff like this happening when I was in elementary school
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:48 AM
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Definitely! I have an aversion to being called hot (cute and pretty is great though), and I feel extremely uncomfortable when people tell me I look like I’ve had a lot of boyfriends. I’ve had zero boyfriends! It makes me think I am doing something wrong; I changed my entire style and lowkey fell into a really bad eating disorder to get people to visually understand that I’m not promiscuous just because I am pretty. Despite this, people are still in SHOCK of my inexperience, and it only makes me …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 11:08 AM
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This is super random, but an interesting hypothetical. I think that if part of the reason they detransitioned was because they started developing transphobic views, or developed transphobic views as a result of their detransition, then I’d say fuck no. While a very tiny amount of detransitioned people were groomed into their transition (EXTREMELY tiny!), there’s no reason to place that blame on trans people as a whole. But you’ve already stated that he wouldn’t be transphobic, so I doubt he’d ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 10:44 PM
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No, because it’s not the root cause. The root cause is the lack of support society provides for men, and the lack of support they provide for each other. They feel oppressed because they don’t make each other feel special Somewhat. Not sexual attention; I’d like to get better at complimenting men in general. However, if they continue to see it as me “offering” to fuck them, then I’m not going to bother. No. No? I don’t have a partner right now, but I’m sure any personal issues within the relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 10:33 PM
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Well, who the fuck is this guy? Is he my coworker, a friend, a stranger? Have I never insinuated anything with him? Is he someone that I don’t think about naked? Even if I’ve rejected this offer, he’s still revealed to me that he’s thought about me naked or wants to see me naked. I don’t want to have connections with people who tell me that they think about me in that way, because I will just avoid them and think of them in a negative light. It’s uncomfortable. If you’re aware of literally anyth…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 10:28 PM
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No. Some of my best friends’ own friends are like that so I just don’t bother talking to them outside of mutual hangouts. I don’t understand why they don’t cut them out. I’ve cut out at least two people this year for this exact reason. One only hung around me to fuck me and have one sided conversations about his life, and the other one stopped contacting me about anything other than edibles cause he became an addict. Harsh shit, dude. Why would I spend time with people that make me feel worthles…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:48 AM
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Someone doesn’t know how to focus on being attractive and improving their life at the time. Bothered?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 12:14 PM
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I disagree in you saying that it “isn’t that big of a problem”. If the patriarchy, even if only as a social construct at the moment rather a political one, continues, then I can only expect an increase in both male suicide rates and amount of female sex workers. An increase in both crime initiated by men and women who deny their own wrongdoings. A decrease in men who seek support, a decrease in women who think for themselves. The picture painted by the patriarchy is that men are strong and capab…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 12:42 AM
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Men would benefit a lot from learning more about themselves. If they want to project a certain image, they’d need to really connect with that image. This might sound dumb, but I’ve noticed a lot of men who talk about how much they relate to “aura”-ful characters, are really good at emanating the energy of those characters in a way that feels very natural to themselves. Inspiration has to be from within the soul, not up your ass
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:15 AM
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“Kind of like the most popular guy in school that had everybody kissing their ass and is belittling to people lower than them in the social hierarchy.” Woah… so popular guys in school are… popular? And people… kiss their ass because they’re popular?! And… since they’re high up in the social hierarchy… they can belittle people lower than them?!?! I just cant wrap my head around it…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 06:21 AM
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Hm, I don’t reckon men need marriage more. But I’m pretty confused, doesn’t basically all recent data suggest that men are far more interested in getting married than women are? Women have been quickly losing interest in seeking a lifetime relationship, and this is for the same reason you stated. They don’t want to indulge a man by providing them unpaid labour and emotional support without the same effort returned. Your second “contradicting narrative” is easily explained by what this commenter …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 06:09 AM
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I love how redpillers assume all women are deceitful, are superficial and lack depth, and then admit to this being correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 10:44 PM
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You don’t seem to think very critically. Do you expect to spend the rest of your life with a blank slate of a partner who you get to fuck sometimes? It’s not too hard for a woman to be attractive, especially when it’s been told to us since childhood that we have to look like all of the pretty Barbie dolls and gorgeous actors on screen. Women follow trends, they’re scared of being outcasted. A prime reason men think AWALT is because a lot of them kinda “look the same”, so clearly their personalit…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:22 PM
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Can I have some stats please?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:09 PM
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So there is no credible evidence of misandry being systemic and sanitised? C’mon, if I and most of the world can’t see it, your eyes aren’t going to be enough to back it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:08 PM
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They are overlooked and dismissed by men, as there is a social stigma around men opening up to and supporting each other. The undercounting is definitely an issue, but it doesn’t really compete with the underreporting of male-on-female rape. As the abuse and sexual assault of men performed by women is not in significant numbers, neither with a clear hatred of men in mind, it’s extremely hard to even link it to misandry at all. Women CAN do harm to men, there is no denying that, except for when i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:06 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:59 PM
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We’re at the point where women can work in coal mines and fight in wars, they just choose not to. We’re unfortunately not at the point where men can rape, sex traffic, abuse, and use misogynistic language on a regular basis towards women, and choose not to, because they’re still choosing to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:58 PM
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I am clearly a reflection of all feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 12:01 PM
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Cause I’ve always wanted to say that #sorry #thatyouareeuropean
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:55 AM
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Yeah I would expect most public figures with opinions like that to get burned in the media. I don’t know what your point is. Most feminists don’t support her for an abundance of reasons, like she’s literally a Zionist. I don’t care if people in Germany support her, that reflects a portion OF a portion of the globe. Do you think feminists worldwide support J.K. Rowling? Just because she’s a well known figure and feminist, doesn’t mean anyone likes her or supports her views at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:37 AM
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European detected #opiniondenied
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:31 AM
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I think you overestimate how many feminists are “extreme”, and even then I think you overestimate how many extreme feminists would genuinely support that…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:26 AM
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She’s stated that, due to modern technology, the patriarchy isn’t exactly how civilisation is right now. We are obviously talking about the women who suggest we go BACK to the patriarchy, and those women are idiots
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:25 AM
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Good for her? This guy I’m talking about is under 25 so he’s actively halting the development of his frontal lobe, and he’s also become friends with the Shittiest People In The World and has lost sight of his moral values (he was a really fucking good person!!) as a result of his addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 12:13 AM
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I know this gets said a lot, but this truly would not be the same woman. A woman who wants emotional honesty and vulnerability in a man would not be the same woman who leaves him for expressing that. Also just adding on that some women find that emotional and vulnerable men really, really turn them on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 10:01 PM
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This one guy I was kind of into became an addict like he smokes weed everyday now. I cut him off and now I just really miss him and wish we had started something before he went through this lifestyle change. I feel dumb for not saying anything just because I felt like I wasn’t ready.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 09:48 PM
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LMAOOO
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 09:42 PM
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I believe she’s talking about relationship relationships, not casual relationships. And in a real relationship, no. Women would not be using men’s bodies. That’s not why women get into relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 09:32 PM
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I would just marry a girl. Honestly, if a law like this started existing, my fleeting attraction towards men would probably disappear. You know when you watch a movie from/set before the 1960s, and none of the male characters make you horny because they display era-typical attitudes towards women? It’s cause they have more laws made for them, when laws like this exist then men don’t feel the need to perform for women which means there’s nothing they’ll really do to make themselves enticing at al…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 09:26 PM
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I wouldn’t exactly say comphet. The features of a man that may show he is a “protector” tend to spike arousal in heterosexual women. The thing is, unless behaviour is tied to the looks, women tend to feel disinterest. This might sound a bit misandrist, but biologically, there is no behaviour that men seek in women, besides maybe submissiveness which can barely count as much of a behaviour. It feels like slipping a bit out of a fairytale as a woman, honestly, but knowing that my behaviour doesn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:14 PM
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The desire for men is a basically a social construct. Being taken care of and seen by someone who devotes themself fully to you is the whole gist of it, but we’ve been socialised to believe specifically men will provide that. We are also given “hope” through lifelong exposure to culture and media, that this is how the most important “love” should and will occur. There’s obviously genuine physical attraction, like to muscles and penis, but I find it interesting that most men, who are universally …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:27 PM
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LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 09:37 AM
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What are you even talking about? Everyone grows up, people develop and mature. The insults of a child, unless backed up with evidence to support an accusation, are absolutely meaningless. They come from someone who is not mentally developed. Do you think that saying the n word when you’re 12 years old permanently defines you as a racist?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:23 AM
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What are some examples of the passive-aggressive emotionally manipulative language that women use?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:19 AM
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I’ve heard incel to describe men that are mad that a woman has rejected them, where the fuck did any of these other ones come from? Those insults sound like ones used by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:16 AM
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You chose a really shit example 😭 “Tell that to the female classmates” so like children? Who are famously rude and tend to lack a filter???
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:14 AM
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Okay. So this woman on Twitter speaks for all women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:09 AM
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And it’s very rare for a man to talk about a woman without it being in a negative light, unless she’s given him a boner. What’s your point? Both genders tend to have less nice things to say about one another because we struggle to relate to each other. What I do see frequently though, is men shitting on other men for being short, ugly, fat, weak, awkward, poor, etc. Women tend to only shit on men who have been weird to them, or they say “I hate all men” without targeting one specific man’s attri…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:07 AM
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Men get insulted by other men more than they get insulted by women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 08:54 AM
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Can you please tell me, in great detail, how they are flawed and what the accurate fractions would be?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:26 AM
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This simply shows that there are more passionate anti-feminists than there are men’s rights activists. And when you relate back to the post, isn’t that kind of exactly what OP is saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:23 AM
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I have literally never heard of Paul Elam. Though, like I said, it would be totally expected of activist-opposed groups to complain about what activists have said and done; you think the general public didn’t complain about the train stations being firebombed?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:20 AM
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If the MRA movement “died” because of that, then it’s a fucking weak movement that not enough people are supporting. Marginalised groups are marginalised, they are going to have people actively critiquing and sabotaging them. The only reason movements like Civil Rights and Women’s Suffrage succeeded was because the marginalised groups did not give up, not because everyone suppressing them magically decided that they wanted to fully involve themselves in supporting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:11 PM
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This guy just says words fr 😭😭
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:02 PM
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“Bringing it up now out of nowhere” when you’re the one who brought it up?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:35 PM
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1 in 10 women have been raped and 1 in 3 women have been sexually assaulted. You think this topic randomly comes to mind, or do you think maybe it’s actually genuinely affected the lives of women on this sub and the other women in their lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:31 PM
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None of these words are in the bible
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:49 AM
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I disagree. A standard dinner date is, in my opinion, one of the worst ways to get to know someone if one or both of you aren’t very charismatic. There’s no moving and the surroundings aren’t particularly novel, there’s nothing to really jog your thought train if you’re just sitting down. Some people’s thoughts don’t come straight to their heads, especially people who ruminate. People on this sub would probably benefit from creative and high energy dates because it would ease off the tension tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:46 AM
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You’re literally just saying meaningless words up at this point, why are you so desperate to excuse behaviour like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 10:05 PM
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…but that’d still be hiding your needs and being secretive. Working on yourself is great, but refusing to talk to your wife (which is suppressing your thoughts and feelings) and considering cheating (which is literal betrayal and deceit) are most definitely signs of insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:51 PM
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So for bluepill it’s more like “what can I do to care for the woman I love but still support myself?”, and for redpill it’s “how long can I hide my motives from the woman I love (doubt) until I’m so pent up that I cheat or leave?”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:39 PM
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I feel like I’d be good given my life experience which allows me to know what women like! I’ve also had experience in flirting with women as a bisexual which I think I’ve gotten pretty good at. The downside is I’d likely be low-average height, and given my small hands I would have a small dong. I think that’s how it works, at least? Anyways, strat: 1. Build lean muscle 2. Get a hairstyle that frames my face 3. Find a girl to potentially court 4. Learn about them and reflect aspects of my style/e…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:58 PM
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This is so something I would say if I were a pedophile
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:47 PM
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I do not have a boyfriend so this would be impossible
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 08:18 AM
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I’ve never had a boyfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 08:17 AM
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A lot of men who have girlfriends avoid talking to me at all if their girlfriend isn’t around, which is understandable but makes it hard to form meaningful friendships with them. Some have also tried to fuck me regardless which kinda sucks!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:46 AM
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Well that’s how most of my male friendships started, and trust me I still appreciate and care for some of these men, but they have failed to show appreciation towards me. That’s what I would like to get out of any future male friendships, because that’s sorta what the label “friend” implies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:38 AM
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These were all organic friendships, by “find better male friends” I sorta just mean like, base my perceptions of men on the men I befriend in the future, who will hopefully be better than the friends I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:36 AM
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To create a better view of them so I don’t continue to avoid them for the rest of my life and maintain such negative beliefs?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:41 AM
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Part of why I joined this sub and have a lot of radical takes is because every male “friend” I’ve had has lost complete interest in me as a person after it’s become clear that I don’t want to sleep with them. Do I just need to find better male friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:40 AM
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Yes. I never quite understand people who ask this question because the other answer, “no”, implies that you only allow people of the opposite gender into your life if they can fulfil a sexual or romantic role. Do you not see anything weird about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:30 AM
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Notice how everyone’s dodging the crux of the question
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:24 AM
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Not necessarily all of them. I dont know many abusers, thank god, but the ones that I am aware of are incredibly good at making women feel “special”. Personality and public likability is debatable, but fuck if they aren’t insanely charismatic and catering towards their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 05:23 AM
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Women don’t experience attraction in the same way that men do. When men post provocative pictures, like he could be fully shirtless, women will think “woah, he’s hot!” and then like. Go on with their day. They don’t typically stop and jack off to the photos and possibly send those photos to a bunch of their female friends. They also don’t remove the identity from the body; seeing a hot half-naked man doesn’t make women start disregarding his personality traits or meaning in their life, it might …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:13 AM
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Fictional men make the reader feel a certain way, as if they’re special. That’s the only thing in common among all romance fiction. The women who treat real men as “transactions”? They’re only giving back the same passion that is given to them, which is none. Women don’t know how men want to be wanted, other than showing off their looks. If men were commonly into women romancing them or improving for them, then there’d certainly be a lot more effort on their part. But the world hasn’t worked tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:59 PM
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Oh my god. Women don’t deny that there are feminists who hold actual misandrist views. But do you see how nobody knows who the fuck this YouTuber is? Genuine misandry is not an aspect of widespread feminism. Misandry doesn’t get us anywhere, it is extremely rare to find some lady talking about all men getting a vasectomy. Please use your brain. Give me something that doesn’t have 28k views from some unheard of figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:44 PM
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Somewhat false! There have been a lot of men in my life that I’ve been extremely obsessed with but I struggle to actually talk to because I like them so much and I get shy. And then I act disinterested when I do talk to them, because I don’t want them to know I’ve been obsessing over them. There is a high chance I am autistic though so my experiences may not apply to a lot of other women? I don’t know.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:35 PM
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Sex isn’t a bad thing at all! I just find it frustrating that men tend to form perceptions of women based on their sex appeal, without consideration their personality and capabilities. If you are refuting my argument, then could you tell me if you have any male friends you only like because they arouse you sexually? Or do you spend time with them because they have cognitive/behavioural/social attributes that make them enjoyable to be around?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:32 AM
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That’s literally the first thing I mentioned in the first paragraph of the comment you just replied to. Yes, these women do exist. They are basing their attraction off of something else, however what I am arguing is that men are basing their judgement of women as people (not as romantic or sexual prospects) on how attracted to them they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:12 AM
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Okay. I’m talking about women as whole. Not feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:42 AM
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Yeah so I made a long ass post and I’m replying to everything because it’s a debate post and I want to engage in this specific topic. I’ve only recently come back into reddit and my ADHD meds are kicking me into hard hyperfocus on my day off today, if you wanna know my whole fucking life story, so that’s why I’m not calling out every woman that’s made an error under unrelated posts. Anyways, please share some examples of misandry being a systematic issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:49 AM
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Dude… this argument is about the likeableness of women. Not the likeableness of ME. And if you’re asking a question about how “likeable” women are, why would I not discuss things that make women… likeable?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:44 AM
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Misandry is not a systematic issue. Misogyny is only really a systematic issue in 3rd world countries. Both are prevalent social issues, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:40 AM
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This is a good and well-thought out response god bless. I do believe that cultural influences like the internet are massively damaging the newer generations of men’s ability to remove the implication of sex from the literal existence of women, though. There are a concerning amount of men out there who struggle to evaluate a woman, in a non-romantic and non-sexual setting, without first consulting how attracted to them they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:38 AM
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Do you know what feminism is? Do you think I do not like men or consider them people? Do you know what cultural and social influences are? Or are you happy believing that everyone that acts a certain way is “just like that”?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:32 AM
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But you can’t tell me men, as a collective, are only appreciated for a single thing. You can argue that in terms of attraction itself, women might be looking for a man who fills a certain criteria; considerably attractive, good income, etc, which, yes, can diminish the value of a person. I’m talking about widespread stuff though. Women aren't nearly as acknowledged for their achievements and skills as men are, because the first judgement a man will have of a woman will come from how much he desi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:29 AM
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So the thing is they already are. Women live lives very similar to you, engaging in different hobbies and jobs and often exceeding the skills of their male counterparts. They also tend to have very active social lives and are very good at developing social skills, which makes them quite adept at conversation and self improvement. Women do not spend as much time thinking about, looking for or engaging with sex as you think they do. It’s typically men who think about that stuff more often. It is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:22 AM
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No duh, everyone wants to have sex with someone attractive. This is far less about how relationships come about, and moreso how men perceive women. What are some things you like about the women in your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 05:20 AM
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There’s not exactly a rebuttal for this at all. It’s a common pattern to marry someone similar to you, either because of where you live, who you socialise with, or just a preference for familiarity. I will say, it’s pretty rare for a man to find initial attraction in a woman because they are educated, smart or funny. An unfortunate statement a lot of people, on here particularly, have to say is that men get into relationships because they want sex, or kids in the future. Not because they find an…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 05:17 AM
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This has nothing to do with men’s issues. There is little, if any, indication that men can are capable of liking a woman for something unrelated to physical attraction. That’s it, that’s literally the post. You can provide some sort of proof to refute that, or provide an on-topic counter argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:27 AM
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It’s a bit deeper than that dude. A guy could save a million lives, be friendly to everyone he knows, but also never tell a woman that he genuinely thinks she’s talented or interesting and likes her because of that. That’s not a prerequisite for being a good person, that’s still a “good man” right there. He just has a cognitive bias influenced by the surrounding world which doesn’t allow him to look for something in a woman that is not related to attraction. This is a collective issue that is da…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:23 AM
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The fuck are you going on about dog
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:13 AM
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Guys listen to Adele, but they don’t ever say “she’s so good at writing songs, she’s such a talented vocalist”. They just listen to her. And, come on, Melissa McCarthy mainly plays comedic roles; it’s not like she has a bunch of fans praising and keeping up with her for her incredible acting skills. The things men say about men are things they will never say about women. There is no woman who will ever “inspire” a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:11 AM
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Agh, you’re right, I’m pretty young so a lot of my perceptions that come from personal experience aren’t the greatest, yes. However it’s hard to ignore the larger issues, especially since my generation is basically being raised with technology. There is a very common unconscious mindset among men that involves the immediate disregard of women in contexts unrelated to sex or attraction. Think political candidates, sports players, etc. They aren’t where they are with the intention to “show off” th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:02 AM
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Yay! What a great guy! However this has absolutely nothing to do with liking certain qualities about women that do not relate to physical attraction. Putting in the effort to save lives of women shows a lot of positive attributes of this man, but if you wanted to object my post you might’ve wanted to source something that shows positive attributes of a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:37 AM
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This is beautiful and gives me incredible hope thank you brother
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:30 AM
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You are focusing too much on the fucking train brother. I don’t think that there aren’t any good men, I just don’t think there are many men who have something nice to say about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:28 AM
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I appreciate the insight but I think you’re missing the overall point of my post. Those stats are correct, but my stats were not wrong either; women in relationships are more likely to be raped and harassed by their partners. The stats are not a big part of the post, anyways, as I state that they do not reflect all men. The issue is not “men bad”, it’s “men don’t have many good things to say about women unless they involve sex”. Feminism is about equal rights and opportunities, yes. But if a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:25 AM
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Of course, I completely agree that there are men out there who appreciate women they know without an attachment to attraction. But I don’t think justifying feminism with my statement is unreasonable. There is little vocal/public appreciation for women from men in comparison to either pure lust or hatred, overall. Women cannot clearly tell that men find them valuable for anything other than looks, which tends to set up a feedback loop of women over-performing for male attention, which makes men f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:01 AM
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Okay. What do you like about the non-relative women in your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:49 AM
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What man is going to jump in front of a train for me??? I’m not talking about success rates or rejection or anything of the sort. This is not about what you would “do” for a woman, it’s what you “like” about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:47 AM
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Hm, maybe because those words don’t relate to “liking”. What do you like about some of the non-relative women in your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:41 AM
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Women are gorgeous! I don’t think there’s anything really wrong with dating someone who’s attracted to the same gender that you’re attracted to. But that’s likely because I’d happily be in a relationship with a girl, who is attracted to me, a girl. I think there’s a lot of opposite thinking that “hurts” people here. It’s humiliating for a man to like men, so some men think it’s humiliating for a woman to like women. I obviously dont think there’s anything wrong with bisexual men, I would definit…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:43 AM
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Cool! We’ve established an issue. Women don’t treat men as nicely as they could, which in turn can lead to higher rates of depression and suicidal ideation in men. So, what actions are the radicalised group going to make to incite change?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:31 PM
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So, without the needless vocabulary, “probably not”?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:50 AM
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You don’t think it’s an issue that nobody is talking about what needs to change? I keep hearing that things need to get better for men, but no one’s actually stated the steps to take. And a quick google search leads to answers men consistently deny will work. “Society must deconstruct the stigma that emotional vulnerability means weakness, implement male-centred healthcare services, and foster stronger community that promotes connection over isolation.” Men, particularly redpilled men, don’t rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:46 AM
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r/MensRights If you look through it, it’s basically just “libshart feminist gets destroyed by people who hate libshart feminists #owned. Feminism is stupid and misogyny isn’t even real!”. Plus one or two posts about actual men’s issues. Edit: okay a lot of the stuff on there is literally just claims that women as a whole are stupid and that men are the superior gender. How in the world is r/TwoXChromosomes worse than this
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:34 AM
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Right! You don’t want forward change, you want regression? Is that it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:09 AM
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That’s an accurate assertion of what most movements are. It doesn’t change the fact that to incite change, you still need to engage in some sort of movement. Think of civil rights, women’s suffrage, etc; those were movements that successfully created societal changes that aligned with their goals. If no movements happened, then it would just be a bunch of radicalised groups complaining that something needs to change. Kind of like how the redpill community is right now. Sociologically, change occ…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:07 AM
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I agree partially with this statement. Yes, change is more likely to occur if a large group of people becomes radicalised. I think there would be a lot more support for men if all men started… supporting each other, a lot more. But you haven’t exactly stated what “change” you are seeking. What is it? I’m assuming lower suicide and depression rates for men, but after radicalisation, what changes will be made to support this? What movements do figures like Andrew Tate suggest will create a better …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:06 PM
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Oldest take of the century. I am yawning. Women are attracted to attractive things. Just like how men are attracted to attractive things! There are unfortunately “less” attractive men out there due to many factors, a big one being that men haven’t been socialised for centuries to look as attractive as possible at all times, and that means women are only attracted to a smaller percentage of men. And because the average overwhelmingly outweighs the gorgeous, it’s not uncommon for some women to aim…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 11:15 AM
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This is an awful take. Porn content is produced so rapidly that you can’t even know how much and what sorts you have or haven’t seen, and honestly you’re more likely to get “tricked” into thinking a woman is genuinely enjoying something if you are watching independent content; most independent content relies on the thousands of men watching or paying so that the woman generates revenue. Of course they are going to exaggerate how pleasurable something is; it pays their fucking bills. Independent …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:51 AM
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Okay? Like half of all husbands are bad husbands. Nobody said it mattered whether they provide or not. I don’t know why you keep using quotation marks for “willingly providing” when you’re clearly talking about a transactional scenario in which a man provides for a woman in exchange for her being in a relationship with him. They’re both getting what they want, sincerity and feelings are not necessarily important to these people so yes it is willing provision. If the partners end up being awful t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 12:24 PM
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This is partially true-ish but you’re missing a bit of stuff. For starters, it’s significantly more easy for a man to cum than a woman when it comes to penis in vagina sex. Most women cannot orgasm through penetration alone, even if it feels good it can be pretty rare for a woman to completely get off on that. Clitoral stimulation is an important part, and if a man is using a woman’s body to get off, then she may as well use his fingers, which, yes, requires more effort on his part, but like c’m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 12:08 PM
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What point are you trying to make? Women who want a traditional man should expect abuse? Something I see often is that women “make the wrong choice” when dating and that’s why they get abused. I’m sure some traditional men are kind whereas some are not, but the reality is that most women walk in to a relationship with a man, regardless of identity or status, with the belief that they will not experience domestic violence. In a perfect world, there should not be any factors that indicate domestic…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 11:32 AM
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What? Women who want that are well aware of this. They don’t have to “think deeply” about this because the men they’re searching for are men who are going to willingly provide this. Women who go for powerful men are obviously expecting the man to have power over them. I rarely see women who don’t work but have a high-income partner complaining about… well, really anything at all. They like being dependant. The man got a hot woman who’s willing to have kids with him, she got stability and money, …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 11:10 AM
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Whatever vaguely reminds me of my current or past interests. Usually hair styles and fashion senses, but I will say that basically 90% of the time they have to have lean face and body structures. If I know them well enough and their personality reminds me of a character I like or something of the sort, I can get embarrassingly infatuated with them regardless of their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 11:00 AM
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I think this would be more accurate if, rather than three different scenarios, you considered that there may be two different types of women. Woman 1 only goes for men who are high in status. Woman 2 has a specific type (based in looks & personality) that she goes for. The magical thing about Woman 2 is that there is so much variety in what that type could be depending on the woman’s personal tastes. Which… really isn’t strange. This revelation about “that guy” is not groundbreaking at all, it’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:23 AM
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Male strippers and male porn magazines are not very well targeted towards women. Muscular tanned men who are dripping in sweat is for some reason the go-to. There are probably women who are attracted to that, but it seems to be moreso designed for gay men, or the idea is simply based off of a man’s idea of what a woman finds attractive. There’s a lot more variety when it comes to erotic content involving women. You get to see their pretty makeup and their pretty hair and maybe their pretty linge…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:28 AM
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LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:17 AM
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How am I policing…? If a woman exaggerates during sex, it’s not some crime that will make me never want to see her again. I am a woman myself, I understand that there is pressure for women to act a certain way, and yes I do agree that women themselves can put on a show because they think it’s sexy. I’m just identifying where this definition of “sexy” comes from, and it is from porn that men watch. I don’t agree with you in saying it’s the other way around. I love that women can express themselve…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 10:09 PM
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Weak willed is a pretty strong way of putting it. A lot of behaviour has been engrained into women. Women are often raised with the idea that if they are not impressing others, they do not exist. I don’t like how performative a lot of women I know are, but I also fully understand why they’ve ended up that way. None of what our society sees women as, nor forces them to become, is natural. Women aren’t born weak-willed, they are just told from a very young age that their existence relies solely on…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 09:51 PM
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Did you not hear me when I said long term relationships were an exception? And yes, it’s definitely the case in casual sex when women initiate — if you have an attraction to someone you are going to want to “impress” them or seem appreciative of them. Sex might be good, might be bad, either way the woman is going to act as if it’s God’s heavenly gift. As for lesbians — I’ve only had intercourse with a woman once, and while she was definitely enjoying herself I could tell she was exaggerating a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 01:39 PM
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I’m confident in saying that every single woman who has sex, camera or not, is putting on a performance. Every woman will make it seem that they enjoy sex more than they do, unless they are autistic or have been with a partner for a long time. The faces of enjoyment from porn stars specifically are faces of actors, and if I see genuine happiness I can see that it’s mainly because they are enjoying being perceived. For more amateur stuff, I’d say I see actual sexual pleasure occur more frequently…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 10:54 AM
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You can understand that men find sex very valuable from both a biological and societal standpoint, and still go “ewww men are horny ewww”. Intelligence does not require your absolute empathy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:03 PM
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Listen to good music. Have a hobby that I also do. Watch similar shows to me. Be friends with my friends. Little flicks of familiarity are what drive most of my attractions
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:00 AM
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An IQ issue? This woman is literally looking into your perspective and understanding it, she just happens to be disgusted by it. Which tracks, cause I think all women are grossed out by the average man’s perspective of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 07:48 AM
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I like how men can gain muscle easily. I like how men can gain influence easily. I like how men have naturally stable hormones. I like how men are more often judged based on their personality before appearance. I like that men give me the jealousy I need to try harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 12:20 PM
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Exactly. Ignored, not “disliked” like OP states.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 12:50 PM
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I don’t dislike these people; I just don’t date them, like you said. I think this question is better suited towards the top 50% of men, who make these comments in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 09:26 AM
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Absolutely not. I’ve been approached by people, been on dates with people quite easily; you could say those things have “just happened”. But I’ve never been in an actual relationship — I actually spent a lot of time believing they should come naturally and feel natural too, but I’m lazy and easily distracted and only recently realised how much work you need to do to both establish and maintain one. So, no, it doesn’t feel like relationships “just happen”, considering the whole reason I’m not in …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 09:24 AM
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Touché. I suppose I am similar, however specifically identifying and using manipulative techniques is truly one of the most despicable uses of self-awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 07:12 PM
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Title had me hooked, body made me put a gun to my head. What the hell is wrong with you 🩷
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 06:08 PM
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I don’t think that women aren’t acknowledging the advantages. I think that the advantages are so palpable that it is genuinely a waste to bring them up unless specifically asked for them. In response to a man arguing that women have it easier in dating, of course a woman is going to go straight to the disadvantages. The man is aware of how successful women are in the dating scene, so why would women restate that? It’s an argument. It is supposed to consist of counter points.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 01:21 PM
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It is this fact that makes me sometimes completely unable to relate redpill to its initial purpose. To be redpilled is to be aware, apparently. Aware that society favours women. When you take a proper look, there is obvious mistreatment of both men and women in entirely different aspects, so women aren’t going to agree with redpill overall even if they agree with some of the beliefs. Then you realise that redpillers mean that dating culture favours women, not necessarily society. And then you’re…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 12:16 PM
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I mean sure, there probably is intent for some. That’s why I said visible intention; for me personally, I will not find that sort of stuff sexual unless it’s strikingly obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 11:01 AM
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Haha, I think all of this would work on me. My only issue is that I’ve never been asked to be kissed, they’ve just done it LMAO, but I’ll note that the experiences that had a similar buildup to what you described were reciprocated. Edit: irrelevant-ish but I just realised I’ve never had a normal kiss. They all immediately escalated to making out. Now I’m wondering if I’m the one doing something wrong here, someone help.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 05:24 AM
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I find it quite concerning when anyone at all dates outside their bracket, unless they’re 30-60 and going for other people who are 30-60. It is best to spend your developing years with people who are going through the same developments. I agree that men are shamed moreso than women in this topic when there should be equal heat, but the generalisation is more well-accepted because of the much, much higher prevalence of men who prefer to date younger. Women are far more likely to date within their…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 01:47 AM
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I know. I understand that. The issue is moreso the 27 year old vs the 20 year old. I can’t dictate your life, but for a more healthy and balanced relationship I’d go for the 27 year old if I were you. You said yourself that sexual attraction can be a phase, but if you base your willingness to commit to someone on whether or not they are the MOST attractive to you, once that sexual attraction slowly wears you might find that you’ve spent your life with someone that you don’t really share anything…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 01:35 AM
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Massive ones
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 01:19 AM
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…how can this be me? These are two different women. Both of which I do not share any attributes with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 01:16 AM
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I know. But you’ve only listed two factors, big boobs and age, that determine how sexually attracted to someone you are. I know it is hard to help desires but I find it quite concerning that, no matter if their boobs are big or not, you will always prefer someone who is younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 01:12 AM
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Are you opposed to marriage in general, or are there certain factors that would make marriage with this woman unappealing to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 01:06 AM
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Absolutely fascinating. Whatever gets you off, I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 01:05 AM
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This is quite an unsafe mindset to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 01:04 AM
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What if this looksmatched women was 25? Would you date her at your age, 35 or more, or would it only work if you were 25, too?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 12:55 AM
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Yes, certainly. But I’ve noticed that I don’t think “wow that’s a sexy outfit” if there isn’t any visible intention behind it. Like I’ll see a woman with her cleavage out or wearing a corset and a tiny skirt and I’d be like Yeah Okay Hot. But on the other hand, when I see women in crop tops, short skirts, skintight leggings and tank tops, I struggle to see them sexually at all. If they had like blowout hair and a ton of “seductive” makeup on I would see some sort of intention to attract, but oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 12:50 AM
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Why wouldn’t you commit? Do you not commit in general or?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 12:40 AM
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I’d prefer the peasant but I’d need to see what he looks like first. And also what you mean by average “dick quality”?? Lmao???
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 06:49 AM
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Where in the hell are you seeing more women rag on men for not having any sex, than men ragging on women for having too much sex? Like, c’mon, we know how women work: they only care about the high value men who always succeed. What makes you think women give that much of a shit about your sexual life?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 06:45 AM
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Are you purposefully misinterpreting what I’m saying? Men don’t care because they don’t see the neurodivergence, unless it’s very severe. And once they do they are just as prone to being judgemental and ending things. It is very difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 06:40 AM
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And why do you think they only have to do that? It’s not cause they’ve been groomed from a young age to act and appear a certain way, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 04:20 AM
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Do what ND women have been conditioned to do their whole lives: mask better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 03:58 AM
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I would love for our society to look down upon promiscuous men in the way that we do promiscuous women. But this would not solve all men’s dating issues. Especially not for low-status men. The issue comes from what you implied at the start. Men and women are not “too” horny or picky respectively, because this is a result of biological, environmental and social factors that are basically impossible to reverse. We cannot eliminate male desperation or female selectivity. This dating pool expansion …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 03:08 PM
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It does not matter if a man has low social power or not; most men are giving a high proportion of women attention. Men as a whole enforce this culture. You are correct otherwise, though. If male promiscuity magically dissipates and men become harder to obtain, it will still be the same as it is now for high value and low value men in terms of success.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 02:06 PM
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Okay, but who says this? I know the topic you are referring to, and most women don’t make up all of that shit, they just find it strange because it’s unfamiliar to them; most women would rather be seen as potential term partners because otherwise they would likely be labelled whores. The narrative you are describing seems to be based on either one or two offhand responses, or you’ve made it up in your head entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 11:32 AM
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You keep forgetting: men are the ones who decided that only men should go to war. Men are the ones who commit those murders, violent assaults and suicides. It is not an assumption; it is simply not oppression. You cannot oppress yourself. Men oppressing other men is never due to gender. It is due to race, class and other things that are not defined as being a man. Men in higher classes wouldn’t benefit from the oppression of men, which is why it does not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 02:06 AM
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I wouldn’t say anything if I wasn’t seeing literal examples of it. Men are leaning more right wing than ever and actively voting against laws that recognise women as real people. A lot with full intention of stripping those rights away. I don’t think it will get as bad as some say, but that certainly makes feminists feel justified to continue fighting the “battle”. And what are women doing? They’re making men cry because they can’t get laid, boohoo. Men that feel that their outrage is justified …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 10:13 PM
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There is not really an issue with feminists ignoring men’s issues and putting focus on women’s. Men’s rights activists do the opposite. That is literally normal, if your ideology centres on one gender. I will not defend women who go out of their way to erase male victims and praise female aggressors; that is something that will need to change for our society to be balanced. WW1&2 is the shittiest example you could possibly give me. Did women decide that men were the ones who were going to be fig…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 10:02 PM
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Yeah, that campaign totally had zero women involved. It was one side, all the men supporting men’s health day, and the other side, all the women as angry feminists. Are you dense? This isn’t an example of what I’m talking about, it’s an example of what I’m responding to. This event being shut down was heavily influenced by those feminists, I will not deny that. However the decision was ultimately made by the people who started it. There are going to be obstacles when you fight for a cause, you j…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 09:45 PM
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I’ve seen this repeated a billion times. It’s depressing, yes, but there is no satisfying solution for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:48 PM
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Would you please be able to expand on some of those examples, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 02:44 PM
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Exactly. Misogyny is an elaborate piece of fiction that never existed. Right? And we shouldn’t be battling with the fictionalised rapists and human traffickers and such. There’s no way they’re real.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 02:39 PM
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We are talking about gender. Men have not been oppressed for their gender in any society at any point in time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 02:34 PM
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Your takes are so delusional that I’m kind of obsessed. I expect the bottom 60% of guys to try and live out their lives as best as they can and unlearn their hatred towards women if they hold it. If they can’t do either of those things then I expect them to join the manosphere and make posts like this. All in all, it is entirely out of my control.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 02:30 PM
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The issue with online discourse like gender wars is that no matter how right a woman is and no matter how right a man is, people will still stubbornly stick with the idea that they already believe. Even if they ask to be persuaded, it’s highly unlikely they’ll listen to the argument that’s been given to them. You are actually the prime example of this. You replied to me several times talking about the low rate of child marriage in India only and refused to acknowledge that childbrides are highly…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 02:13 PM
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Pray tell
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 01:54 PM
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You are somewhat proving her point. Men will never be oppressed like some of them think they are because, as you said, “men can do whatever they want to women because they’re stronger than them and can force their will on them”. The gender war is an unconscious attempt for men to regain complete societal agency, and since women can’t take away men’s rights, we are simply on the defence. There’s subtle (honestly sometimes unsubtle) ways in which the manosphere moves towards removing rights from w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 01:53 PM
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Okay, sounds intense. Are you aware that most men who abuse and cheat are quite skilled in this little thing called manipulation? If they keep “getting away with it”, it means they’re good at it; whether it be seducing women, gaslighting women, coercing women, I could go on. People don’t see an abusive person and be like “wow I’d hit that”, they just see a person, who is good at hiding what they’re capable of through layers of confidence and charisma (which is, as we all know, attractive). It is…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 01:39 PM
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Agreed. The “war” on men is all mental. They can choose to interpret the things women think and say about them in the ways they like, but the chance of a woman completely overpowering a man in any way is near nil. Abusive women exist, but they will never reach the extent of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 01:24 PM
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Definitely not. Also, aren’t you the same person downplaying women’s struggles in 3rd world countries in comparison to western misandry? Gonna take everything you say with a grain of salt
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 01:15 PM
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I see your point of view, but the answer is still no. The fact that a decent amount of men struggle to get laid is because women ignore them, not because they think they don’t have the right to get laid. There is no intentional gatekeeping like OP implies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 12:10 PM
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Voting is something that determines things on a widespread level. One (1) single woman saying that she doesn’t want to have sex with certain men determines whether or not one singular person is going to have sex with certain men. That woman is not saying that those men can’t have casual sex at all. This metaphor doesn’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 11:56 AM
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The reformation of the patriarchy will be due to men getting upset that women be lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 10:09 AM
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No? Who the fuck is gatekeeping casual sex? Like genuinely show me how this is an issue that exists. When women rag on about men who prefer hooking up, it’s usually only if they’re using dehumanising terminology or if they claim that only women lose their value from it. Nobody thinks that men shouldn’t have casual sex. That’s a thing you are making up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 09:41 AM
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Okay. I think you’re forgetting that there are men who don’t have standards like that though. And women who don’t want to be housewives are marrying them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 09:36 AM
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Obviously. But you seem to be talking about relationships specifically, why would I not bring up forced marriage? Men go through that significantly less than women do. India having less than 5% child marriage is not a good argument. It should not exist in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 09:34 AM
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It is not a concept of the past. Child marriage in India still exists, even if it’s declining. I don’t know why you would bring up 3rd world countries if you weren’t willing to acknowledge places like Niger or Chad, with child marriage prevalences of above 50%.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 05:16 AM
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What? Women don’t change what men want, they just avoid the ones that don’t fit with their own values. You should be aware of that, considering you’ve brought up the 30% to 60% dating gap. It should be obvious that women don’t care if men don’t listen to them (in this context) because they’ll just find one that does.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 05:12 AM
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Well, like you’ve mentioned (and deleted, wonder why) a reason that there are more partnered men in 3rd world countries is because force is often involved! Ever heard of child brides? Don’t know how the west is “much worse for sexism” when the prevalence of misogyny in 3rd world countries is literally incomparable to misandry in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 05:06 AM
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These standards you’re speaking of are a bit mixed up. Women don’t overwhelmingly complain about the visual standards that men have for women, which is why they are comfortable having high visual standards for men. Women do overwhelmingly complain about gendered expectations in relationships, because they can come off as pretty misogynistic. Assuming that your partner will do all of the cooking, cleaning, listening and child caring is a far different ballpark than wanting a hot and charming part…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 04:54 AM
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LMAO I’m unfamiliar with this idea that lesbians have more messed up and violent fantasies about women than men do. Any source to back it up? Actually even if proven, it doesn’t matter cause it’s rare for lesbians to act out on those fantasies like men do. The “male gaze” is not normal or wholesome and there is evidence to confirm that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 10:34 PM
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Like others have said, men tried to stop women from having rights and also used misinformation, intimidation and harassment to reassert their organised political power and squash progress amongst feminist groups. Copying it word for word so you can understand that despite all the shit feminists were attacked for, they still got us where we are today. Forces were against them, but they were ultimately not stopped. Like, c’mon; if women can do it, surely men can too, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 09:40 PM
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It’s the same answer because it’s the truest answer. Nothing is actually stopping you. Men help out with programs, assistance and opportunities involving uplifting women, but the initiative will almost always come from a woman herself. If a man was driven enough to make a campaign in favour of men’s wellbeing, of course his female colleagues would help out. So yes, do it yourself; or at least start it yourself. Women are obviously not going to initiate something that doesn’t benefit them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 05:58 AM
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Like at least 365 to fully know someone. For sex, it honestly depends on the person. Never the first couple dates though because that’s not enough time to build up trust. I believe in the halo/horn effect; I think it is perfectly normal for people to view attractive people in a better light upon first glance, if that’s what you’re talking about. Not necessarily a morally correct view, but it’s a commonality among people nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 05:42 AM
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Okay..? Sorry, I’ve gotta ask; where are feminists saying this?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 04:31 PM
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Why’d u reply to someone who literally just said “I don’t think women who date ex-cons are representative of the average woman” with that tho. This lady said nothing about feminists or manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 04:21 PM
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Okay, so… besides preferring a confident man over a socially awkward man, what other “lower level examples” do you have? People in general are drawn to those who speak their mind rather than those who don’t speak at all. Also, these assumptions are most certainly dangerous as some uninformed people who keep up with redpill content could see “men have to be dominant and assertive” and end up translating that into abuse
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 04:15 PM
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Brooo have u been checked for illiteracy 😕
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 03:57 PM
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LMAOOOOOOOOO
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 01:29 PM
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No way! I thought this was a completely original idea
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 08:39 AM
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Why in the hell would a woman not argue about what she wants and needs out of her relationship? Do you want all women to be in dissatisfying marriages? Their husbands will start resenting them, too. It’s not garbage to communicate, it’s literally necessary unless you want everyone to be depressed
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 01:07 AM
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Okay, what? While you’re right that it’s a preference he’s allowed to have, that would still be hypocritical
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 08:32 AM
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When did I say that? This specific woman did not have sex with 1000 people because she likes sex. She did it for money and fame. Women who aren’t pornstars or sex workers like sex, cause it’s not their job
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 05:40 AM
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Wow, I’ve never seen this take before!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 01:17 AM
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No? It’s only hypocritical if the man himself has specifically had sex with 1000 people, which is highly unlikely. She also did it for entertainment purposes and monetary gain, while men who sleep with lots of women are doing it for their own pleasure. Not comparable
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 01:15 AM
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Yeah. One of my friends occasionally goes on a tangent about how she should just become a sex worker or onlyfans creator because she’d get money and get told she’s sexy. If she ends up doing that I won’t care, I’ll still be friends with her. I’d likely be a bit more concerned about her safety though; she might not wanna be friends with me if I get too antsy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 01:12 AM
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I agree that women who do that lack foresight, but it still shows that they’re not ashamed to act in a masculine way (assertion, bravery) while likely balancing femininity in their lives, even if that specific masculine quality makes them look a bit stupid. I’m talking more everyday stuff. Women who are single and pay their own bills. Girls who go into school with the goal to succeed and be the best. Women taking up or striving for leadership roles. Women who debate. Women who play sports. Women…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 12:06 PM
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I don’t think there is a massive issue with how masculinity is defined. It is, certainly, a concept that counters femininity. Overall, though, both have positive qualities. I think you need to think about it from a bit of a broader perspective. A complete person, in my opinion, would be capable of holding traits of masculinity and femininity. I would say that women of today have embraced both masculinity and femininity quite well. They’ve gone from having no jobs, wearing no pants, being basical…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:50 AM
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What celebrity doesn’t get more sex than 98% of men? The fuck? And idgaf what the average man is getting cause his male associates won’t stop being asses about it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:10 AM
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Exactly this, I never understand why they bring it up. The only study I’ve seen that’s been linked to this is https://interactofwake.org/resources/gender-based/#:~:text=LGBTQ%2B%20Domestic%20Violence&text=43.8%25%20of%20lesbian%20women%20and,to%2035%25%20of%20heterosexual%20women., which basically says “lesbian and bisexual women have experienced abuse from a partner AT SOME POINT more than straight women”, but that says nothing about the abuser’s gender
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 07:32 AM
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If you’re referring to articles about herbivore men they seem to be blaming men for the possible collapse of the economy in the far future. Nothing from women claiming they’re being oppressed
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 11:51 AM
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Who accuses men that refuse to contribute to society of oppressing women? I’ve not seen a single reliable account for this. Only incels that genuinely advocate for female oppression get accused of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 09:53 AM
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I’m going to be annoying as hell and throw politics into this; right-wing women and left-wing women have largely differing amounts of tolerance. Women who are happy to stay with an asshole are usually right-wing women, meanwhile left-wing women give more of a shit and remove said asshole from their lives completely. For women who aren’t too into politics, it will still likely differ based on where their friends and family sort of lean. Right-wing people as a whole are more likely to reinforce pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 03:39 AM
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There’s not a considerably large amount of women who like Jack Doherty, especially in comparison to men. Didn’t even know who the fuck he was until two days ago. The ones who do like him don’t care about getting a nice guy; they are people who would do anything for a celebrity to step on them. They are not the same demographic of women as the ones who actually want a good partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 03:20 AM
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Nah, I wouldn’t say so. I’m immediately drawn to certain types I find attractive, as a lot of women are. It’s not that I’m not open to more, but I don’t have an urge to explore a wide variety of men. I’m pretty consistent with style as well. Occupation doesn’t really factor into it at all for me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:53 AM
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While you’ve certainly got some aspects wrong, I overall agree. Like, biologically, we do not want sex as much as men do. However, I must note that we have grown to learn that sex is both an act of love and an act of affirmation. Therefore, obviously, we’d like to have sex with someone who we love or who makes us feel affirmed. Sex can be a tool for some women for sure, but it’s far from the main purpose. It’s for intimacy and affection
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:36 AM
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That’s super interesting, however it’s completely normal to not feel or think anything when you see an unremarkable stranger. You don’t know anything about them, aside the fact you don’t consider them a potential partner, which, again, is completely normal. I’d argue that it’s far stranger to immediately be disgusted after just looking at a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 12:55 AM
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That applies to situations, not people. It’s for people who embody the bystander effect by not caring if someone’s been hurt or killed, or if the environment is getting worse or whatever. Indifference towards a stranger is entirely normal; you don’t know anything about them and they don’t excite you, so they’re just a person you can’t and don’t judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 12:48 AM
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Like this person said, emotional manipulation is almost completely invisible from the outside. The “bigger” cases, involving violence and outward aggression, can be seen and therefore perceived easier
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 09:51 PM
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It became popular culture in kindergarten when we’d say all the boys are stinky, and when the boys would say all the girls are stinky. The division has always been there, even if it doesn’t initially mean anything. The difference as you grow older is that adult women can get away with saying they hate men, whilst adult men have to say they hate women behind their backs because there’s a considerably larger proportion of violence and hatred towards women. Men that hate women don’t outright say th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 02:00 PM
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Being a man who goes overseas is not in itself weird. Nobody thinks it’s weird. However, bringing home a young, foreign woman who speaks barely any of your language and having her adapt to a new culture just reeks of power exertion. This is the only type of “passport bro” that I have encountered, and while it is entirely consensual on the woman’s part for her to move and be a part of the relationship, it just happens to usually end up terrible for her. Some of my closest friends are children of …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 01:45 PM
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I don’t think it can be considered “desperate” when you realise that you are attracted to and would enjoy being committed to someone of the same sex, despite possible discrimination you might face for it. A limited dating pool doesn’t mean women can’t just go for a man anyways (or stay single), if they’re straight and fully aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 08:46 AM
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Yes, and I know that some people become aware of their sexuality when options are/seem limited. Certainly not everyone but I think that’s a main point OP is trying to make
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 08:29 AM
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She’s linking several reasons altogether. As for a possible explanation; some people are attracted to a higher income, which gen z women are more capable of having than a genz man. If we took every factor out of the equation besides attraction to money, a woman would be more likely to opt for another woman in this scenario. However, this is the real world so of course other reasons would be intertwined with this, which is why she listed several.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:21 AM
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Girl men being less equal than women (in the dating scene specifically) is what men on this sub have been preaching for agessss 🤦 she’s just saying that they’ve become more “unequal” due to lack of education, lower income, etc. And women statistically are more lesbian/bi than ever before
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 02:07 AM
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God, then what the fuck is the redpill view of women? I hear they are lacking in personality and are highly materialistic. I didn’t bring up personality because I thought it wouldn’t need to be addressed. Is that all it is? Women are boring and unaware of themselves? If so, that makes up almost the entirety of the human species. Or is it that they are deceitful when it benefits them, an overwhelmingly common trait for men as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 02:58 PM
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Wow stone cold
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 02:26 PM
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Omg bestfriend I missed you. I agree, and I don’t reckon every single man on here needs therapy, however there are some ones that hold feelings that are clearly impacting their everyday behaviours, self esteem, or outlook on life to a point where a professional would be highly beneficial. Not to pinpoint one cause but like literally just to vent and have someone who isn’t either overly hostile or overly reinforcing listening
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 02:14 PM
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I guess so? From what you described, normalism dismisses any issue at all. I don’t think the two mindsets are compatible, nor do I think believing everyone is/advocating for everyone to be normal is a great mindset to have regardless. If you’re trying to relate this to how male issues get ignored; the normalcy is usually pushed upon them by each other. Many women on this sub suggest for men to go to therapy or at least talk about their feelings, and are often met with denial of mental instabilit…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 12:43 PM
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Get off my asssss, I dont want to shun people; I want to criticise them. Which I do. If that feeds into their popularity and status I’m not particularly bothered
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 09:29 AM
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Right on the money
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 09:24 AM
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Eh, I’d say most of my male friends are “unattractive” or at least struggle with improving their appearance and getting dates. The men I am talking about, I’m not even friends with. I’ll admit I probably pay more attention to them because of their status/popularity, but it doesn’t undermine the fact the girls in those social circles are much more conservative in their behaviour
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 09:21 AM
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I think you misunderstood; the amount of men I know that sleep with a lot of women is higher in proportion to the amount of women I know that sleep with a lot of men. I do agree that there is a much larger amount of undesirable men who can’t get a date in comparison to attractive men that sleep around a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 08:33 AM
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I struggle to see where women deny these behaviours, though. I think if you asked a woman outright if she was shallow, she’d probably deny it because it sounds pretty hurtful. But if she were asked if she takes bias in dating, considers specific factors, engages in certain behaviours, etc, there’d likely be an honest answer that “reveals” how picky or inconsiderate of certain men she might be. I think this issue comes from a moral viewpoint, since some men think high standards = superficial. How…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 08:27 AM
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I would agree with you, but “getting the experience” doesn’t mean whoring yourself out. I wasn’t explicit but the girls I know who are dating for that purpose are genuinely committed to their partners and that “drop for the better option” mindset is something I’ve yet to see. I also just don’t understand why men of my age who are sleeping around with terrible women who are conventionally attractive don’t get the same heat; I’ve actually seen it happen moreso than the other
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 07:33 AM
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Omg not the profile scan. Why does me being a terrible person have anything to do with other women 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 07:11 AM
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LMAOOOOO
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 05:09 AM
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I don’t treat men differently to their faces. I am very aware of my personal opinions and how I communicate them to my friends and on the internet, though. It’s never “oh he’s a creep” it’s always “ughhh but I wanted insert attractive man’s attention thoughh :(“. It’s just whining about something out of my control that doesn’t actually matter, not actively thinking less of unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 05:07 AM
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Do you really want more people to crowd this already densely packed and highly polluted world?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 02:55 PM
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I joined this sub because the “pill” mindset or whatever is very fascinating to me. I also enjoy arguing with people, and this is a great place to let it out because some of the misogyny does make me genuinely mad. It would be a bit ridiculous to have a sub catered to gendered discussion/debate without one of the genders present, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 12:06 PM
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It’s not controversial at all. However, I do not want to date a 6’1 shredded and rich football player or whatever the fuck, because that’s not the small percentage I am attracted to. I’m attracted to those kinda awkward but charming guys with feminine faces and a very specific amount of muscle mass, preferably less than 5’10. So obviously I argue when people get the specifics of it wrong. There’s not one man out there that’s universally attractive to women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 11:16 AM
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I did this the very first time I got cold approached, because I’d just moved to the city and had never been asked so directly before. It turns out getting to know him was an awful idea because he didn’t actually want to know anything about me, literally made out with me 20 minutes into a date we agreed to. It just felt so incredibly shallow that it totally turned me off cold approaches, I can even just see how insincere they are now
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 11:10 AM
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I’d prefer to live with responsibilities, expectations, etc. like you mentioned. For me, personally, I need life to be exciting and go through the stress of it to feel rewarded. I know those elderly women say they are happy, but they are also at an age where they have low energy and are probably relaxed because they don’t really need to do anything. They likely feel fulfilled because giving birth (assuming they did so) means you have other people to live vicariously through. Their own lives woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 03:01 AM
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Not everyday. But I’m happy when I think about all of the people in my life and what experiences I’ve had. If I was a woman 50 years ago, I don’t think either of things would be so abundant
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 01:24 AM
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Eh, if you live in Europe that makes sense. 18-25 year old men in Australia, depending on whether or not they give a shit, can actually be really successful in, like, “dressing for the female gaze”. Suits are expensive and saved for formal occasions, they’re intended to be complimented even if they don’t look particularly great. In my area, men still get compliments for their style or for other clothing pieces that accentuate “desirable” parts of them, like waist, forearms, chest, etc, even if t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 01:16 AM
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They literally are?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 12:32 PM
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Oh my god, is this a thing people believe? I got put on antidepressants because my life was falling to shit and I wanted to be in control of it, not for someone to be basically in control of ME
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 11:25 AM
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I agree to an extent. There’s a lot of ways to dress to yourself as a man that women find particularly attractive, but men either think it looks bad or that they’d be judged for wearing something like that, which could be true. Some parts of the younger generations have it figured out, which gives me hope, but I think men overall underestimate the things they can get away with wearing. Or have the completely wrong idea of what’s fashionable (at least in the eyes of a woman)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 11:20 AM
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You’d be surprised how much a flattering hairstyle and clothing does for someone’s face. You might not look into it very closely, but women study this sort of stuff religiously. A part of looks that people don’t realise can “make” or “break” whether or not you’re ugly is the size of your head in proportion to your neck and shoulders. If you work fashion into trying to minimise one or two of those factors, women will 1. See that you’re stylish, which IS something we value 2. Notice the good parts…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 07:02 AM
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The problem with this is that most men don’t actually put much thought into what looks flattering on their bodies. Cause for a casual day, it’s just a t shirt and some pants. A night out with the boys? Maybe a buttoned t shirt and some pants. And for a special occasion, I guess we’ll go in with a suit, might even be fitted. Issue? That’s still gonna do nothing for your form, maybe even accentuate the bad parts unless you’re super lanky. If you ignore the focus on boobs and butt, a lot of general…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 06:44 AM
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I’ve seen a man go from a 2 to an 8 because I saw him wearing stylish jeans and a flannel over his undershirt. Men severely underestimate how much fashion can do for you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 06:19 AM
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I WANT TO SEE TIGHT-FITTED TANK TOPS EVERYWHERE LET ME SEE THOSE SLUTTY WAISTS
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 06:16 AM
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As a young woman who goes out with my similarly aged friends pretty often, you’d be surprised how rarely girls associate clothing and body shape accentuation with sex. It’s odd. Like when I put on a “slutty” dress, I do it because it’s fun and it’s fashionable, I rarely pay attention to if my butt or boobs look good. But posts like this sort of just make me remember that like, yeah. You can kinda just see everything, can’t you? I think I’m past the point of thinking about leering (I’m not quite …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 06:07 AM
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I think it is, but it’s incredibly outdated. I don’t see very many people pushing the idea that women and children have to be especially protected nowadays, unless it’s coming from a man who feels the need to make his strength and loyalty known
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 02:05 AM
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I’m bisexual so my insight is pretty shit. I’ll say that one thing that attracts me about men that women often don’t have is defined muscles. But I’d also be cool with no muscles. Aside from that, I prefer more “feminine” facial features which either gender could have. This might sound awful but there’s not many male-specific behaviours/attitudes/traits that I enjoy at all
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 01:58 AM
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Women nowadays only want a nonchalant dreadhead 💔
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 01:54 AM
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Yess for everything, especially the date paying thing. I get a sense of satisfaction if pay for my date, I don’t understand how some women don’t feel guilty at all when assuming men will pay for everything
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 01:47 AM
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That 6’0+ is the ideal height. That’s fucking terrifying, in my opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 09:30 AM
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Cause the truth is, if you’re ugly as a man, it’s impossible to change it. You can work on your muscles and hair or whatever but face and height are large factors that attract women, and if you don’t have them you can’t do anything about it. You’ll grow to loathe yourself, and loathe women for not wanting you. Being kind and genuine won’t guarantee you women, but it’ll certainly guarantee you better quality of life. Yes, it’s terrible advice for dating, but it’s better than asking someone to cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 09:27 AM
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The women who complain about the audacity of men are not the same demographic as the women who are desperate for male approval. Are you dense?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:34 PM
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I’d probably cut them off. That’s gross. I wouldn’t be able to look at them the same way
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:33 PM
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No. 2 is definitely correct. I believe that, naturally, both men and women are just as picky as each other. However, men have been allowed to be as picky as they want for centuries (like, in some cases literally picking out which women they’re going to marry/impregnate), meanwhile women having the “upper hand” in relationships has only really come about after feminism became popularised. Now, most women already understand what attracts men (due to beauty standards they are somewhat forced into) …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:21 PM
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Of America, one of the fattest countries
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 02:26 AM
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I’m bisexual. I’m just also a hater
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 04:20 AM
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It might be different if I were in a relationship, but like. Chocolate will always taste good. Sex will sometimes not feel great
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 05:37 PM
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Yeah that’s because they seek help!! Which men don’t!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 07:46 AM
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Still doesn’t mean men have better mental health overall. Just means they ignore it and choose the “easy” way out like substance abuse or suicide
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 06:03 AM
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Why do more men kill themselves than women then?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:59 AM
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That’s because men fail to admit their terrible mental health and get help
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:54 AM
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This is so factual. I’m as shallow as they come. I grew up thinking I was ugly as shit, then as soon as I got attention from attractive men it’s like a switch flipped and now I don’t know how to settle. It’s killing me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 03:30 AM
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As a woman, I do agree. Most women know they look good, even if they’re, like, “mid”, as you guys put it. But they know what qualities they have that are attractive and they don’t always take issue in boasting that. The thing with insecurity is that it can seep through everything you do. I’ve found tons of guys hot until I realised they don’t really know what to do with themselves. However, especially recently, I’ve been getting hyped over non-conventionally attractive guys who exude so much con…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 03:27 AM
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I totally get that, but like you said withholding sex for safety purposes is a pretty normal and genuine concern. It’s a bit difficult to compromise on this matter, especially if you’re arguing that sex should come before a first date. Exploiting women for sex and exploiting men for money are both, unfortunately, terrible options. The difference is that one can put another at risk, while the other is just a bit disrespectful. With how progressive some generations are becoming, I’m really hoping …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 03:14 AM
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I pay for my own drinks + whoever I’m with cause I’m not stupid enough to believe shit like this. It’s a first date. Nobody owes anyone anything. It’s getting to know someone, not a transaction. If you want sex before the first date, that’s a transactional demand. Most of the time, a woman will like you far, far less for that. Sex is rarely even pleasurable for women when they’re with strangers, unless the stranger is super hot and they get turned on. I get where you’re coming from, but you need…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 09:23 AM
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Getting rejected for being ugly is deeply mentally damaging!!!!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 02:49 AM
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Most of the men that approach me are people from overseas. It’s not typical in my culture for men (or even women, for that matter) to start up a conversation in hopes of getting laid/going on a date with a stranger. I wouldn’t date them because I don’t know them. Some of them have been very attractive, but I don’t know anything about them and it reduces my interest significantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 11:07 AM
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The lack of understanding in the comments is kind of killing me. What do you mean you go on this sub and complain about how women don’t want you, and then refuse support for it? While also whining about how men can’t express their emotions like women can?? Some of you genuinely need therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 11:01 AM
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This would seriously be a great idea. Given the fact that women’s terrible experiences in the past (somewhat today, still) with high expectations of weight, body type and general attractiveness has encouraged more support amongst them, I think that men deserve to get treatment like that as well. Trauma from rejection is a genuine thing and it can fuck you up really badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 10:58 AM
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Being attractive does not excuse asshole-like behaviour 😭😭 not to be mean, but I know a couple of introverted guys who are easily the most evil people I’ve come across. Do you know what can make them worse, specifically in the dating sense? The strong resentment they have towards women for not being “chosen”. I’ve met quite a fair share of loud, attractive dickheads, but the small amount of nerdy dickheads I know are usually terrible people because they refuse to change their mindsets and hold v…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 10:49 AM
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I know I can’t read minds but if I did know my partner was specifically thinking about having sex with someone else other than me, I’d probably freak out. But that wouldn’t happen, and it’s unlikely he’d ever tell me. Living in fear of not being carnally and singularly desired rn
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 10:38 AM
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I’d be like hell yeah. Even if you’ve dated lots of people, you can still be inexperienced in some parts of dating. It’s more about learning about each other and what you like as individuals, rather than knowing already exactly what you’re supposed to do in a relationship. I don’t think you’ll get much judgement at all!!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 09:58 AM
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I am incredibly socially awkward and insecure. I don’t know about other women. Once I become the most sociable and charismatic person in the world I’ll be asking everyone on a date
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 08:22 AM
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Perfect thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 04:56 AM
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It was full on but super genuine and cute, he said I was amazing and hilarious and loved my energy, and said he also loves compliments in relationships (in relation to the prompt he responded to). Really tooted my horn but idk how to reply to someone so sweet
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 04:55 AM
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How do I respond to ppl on hinge . Help me
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 03:21 AM
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Valid. It’s better to get sex when you want it rather than be pestered for it when you don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 02:24 PM
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Very true, but most men aren’t as likely to be found attractive immediately by women. If you aren’t cute or charismatic enough, you’ve gotta play your cards right and do the hard to work of getting to know someone
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 02:13 PM
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Women and men feel attraction in different ways. Most of the time, men’s attraction is immediate, and women get more attracted after “getting to know” someone. But of course we’re going to assume that the other gender is going to feel the same thing we do, so we’re going to display interest in the way we would want that interest expressed. Men take their chances by hitting with a cold open and nothing else because they think women are either immediately attracted to them, or they aren’t. This is…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 02:07 PM
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Women and men do make quite a shitty pair, huh? It’s interesting cause what you’ve broken down here has made me realise another core difference between them: men want to want things, and women want to be wanted. Men have a higher drive for anything in general. They want to reach the peak of what’s possible, so they try hard to get there. Women tend to be more content taking their time, and get satisfaction from stability, like long-lasting relationships and unwavering devotion. Obviously dissati…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 01:45 PM
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I think you are stupid 🩷
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 02:33 AM
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Only if this person was completely and entirely romantically devoted to me. I can live without sex so long as someone’s still obsessed with me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 02:32 AM
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I don’t think many people on here want to confess that they do LMAO. I’ll say that I’ve benefitted from being able to attract men without having to try too hard, but that can definitely not be considered a privilege for some women (some displays of attraction can easily turn into harassment)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 02:28 AM
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This is honestly not something that’s crossed my mind. Completely twisting the question to give an answer, but: I’d prefer a man who values each of his currently owned resources (basically not mindlessly spending money, putting effort into something he cares about), and is comfortable with either obtaining or not obtaining resources based on his goals. So basically neither of these
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 02:25 AM
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Everytime I try to coddle a man he won’t let me… 🥀
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 03:54 PM
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“Chadfish” and “beta bucks” are making me cackle dawg. There’s a big difference between men and women’s sex drives, it’s factually true. Men’s hormones are raging and a very large amount of them masturbate everyday. Women’s hormone levels shift throughout the month and many find themselves only being horny for about 3-10 days during that. Some women act horny in a performative way while with a spouse or someone they’re attracted to, but are physically uninterested. Some women also don’t act that…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:03 AM
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Nope. Women will never be as horny as men, it’s a biological fact. As others have stated, we already have access to condoms and other preventatives that make our current world pretty sex-positive. The high body count thing has always confused me a bit though. I still don’t think the elimination of STDs would change that. The only things that would probably be altered are gay sex, which would be at an all-time high, and rape, because there would be no reason for rapists to “hold back”, even thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 01:38 AM
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Right. Then are you taking offence because someone else is telling you to?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 02:09 AM
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And?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 02:08 AM
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Yes but not people see too much of an issue with the tradition besides you, OP, and a very small minority of other men. Progress likely isn’t going to happen because most people are satisfied with the current way of proposing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 11:42 PM
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I was talking about myself and my own opinion because I’m narcissistic?? Nothing to do with other women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 11:40 PM
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It’s completely possible! It’s just not the entire population of women. Men also like being led, especially in marriages
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 08:56 AM
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Do you speak for all women or just the population you made up in your head? Women lead equally in most marriages, usually even more when it comes to decision-making. This isn’t 1950.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 08:52 AM
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Hello? Kneeling for 5-30 seconds is a singular act that will never be repeated (still don’t know why you think it’s such a degrading act). Wearing an engagement ring 24/7 shows a lot more devotion, c’mon. Anyways, you referring to men as the “leader” and women as the “follower” shows an insane disproportion of power. I can tell that you do not consider both as equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 08:24 AM
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The truth is that men and women are equal. I also believe that marriage is mostly stupid, but the kneel signifies devotion which is an important aspect of a healthy marriage. Women show their devotion by wearing the ring. It’s all a bit silly to me, but it’s just a tradition that you’re reading way too far into.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 08:09 AM
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I can’t believe you used dramione fanfiction as an example that’s actually hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:51 AM
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This is actually making me realise proposals are kinda like a knight dubbing a squire, which is significantly cooler than whatever bullshit you were saying. Idgaf if it sounds pathetic to you, I now find marriage proposals sexy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:50 AM
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Oh my god I’m going to throw up WHY DO YOU CARE
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:46 AM
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Of course there’s no specific way to treat someone as a human being. However, there’s a big difference between thinking of what someone is like in bed and thinking of a what someone might be thinking or feeling, upon first meeting. Technically it’s not wrong to have those thoughts, but women would feel much less dehumanised if they knew they were being perceived by the things they do and say. I don’t think men think about other men in a sexual manner when they look at them. You can’t apply two d…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:44 AM
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Wdym “there’s no such thing as an actual human being”? Do you want me to look at you as a sexual object, or a person?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 04:12 AM
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Eh, I haven’t read anything like that but I assume the sexualisation would probably pertain to the rest of the man as well in that type of media, not just his boner
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 02:18 AM
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You have to pay the troll toll
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 12:46 AM
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I only judge men if they have massive cars because I think they’re hilarious. Big ass car. They make me giggle
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 04:05 PM
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Men don’t understand how being cute is a game changer. I only go for cute guys (who act cute, too)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 02:25 PM
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She was correct. “A guy like you should wear a warning” is in one of the verses of Toxic by Britney Spears
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 02:22 PM
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I know, man. I’m just adding to discussion, not trying to attack the seperate ways in which women and men decide who they’ll date. They vary tremendously and it’s hard for anyone to end up truly satisfied. I definitely agree that men are capable of focusing on their partners but it’s not always the case, same goes with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 02:06 PM
3

Okay but he was really cute and I think he still wants me lowkey
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:25 PM
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I’ll also speak on my experience (I’m 19 so everyone I know is horny, you can take it with a grain of salt) – the men I’ve known and dated actually lack devotion in relationships as well because they are less interested in finding someone “perfect”; they just want to find someone. Because of their interest in basically any woman, men typically watch porn and view other women as sexually attractive while in relationships, which isn’t a crime at all, but their female partners will want the focus t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:24 PM
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Okay but the women don’t want that and don’t really care. Dicks are 100% sexualised in other contexts, but in porn most women watching are likely looking at the woman because that’s the focal point of the video.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:00 PM
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Can’t even argue dawg. Life is so fucked up
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 06:54 AM
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I love most of this message but it’s kind of heartbreaking to say that people’s values have so drastically changed over the past few decades. Self importance has become so popular amongst younger people. In a society where the older generations have only made things difficult in terms of not just love and relationships but also liveability, there has become less of a need to fulfil a duty, and more of a desire to put oneself first. I think devotion is beautiful, but it’s rare to see that sort of…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 06:29 AM
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Are you stupid? I know this is mean to say, but the men on tinder with 0 matches are not very visually attractive. That’s not anyone’s type at all! It’s unfair that men tend to be more ugly than women, but also women are not going to fit you into one of the various standards of taste they have if you can’t meet a single requirement, especially on dating apps where you can’t see anything outside of visuals and a couple of non-insightful quips. Also, it will never be more evenly distributed becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 03:23 AM
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Yeah but it’s always “some men”. I’ve seen men on here say that whenever they see women walking down the street they immediately think of what they would be like as “a sexual being” (no joke, I literally read that exact thing). Meanwhile women think of attractive men as actual people, unless they fit that certain standard you described
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 03:03 AM
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Yeah but most porn is made by men, who want “the power of the penis” or whatever bullshit to be the main sexual trait of men. Let us see your toned ass, thighs and chest and then women will be involved. Otherwise, it’s not the sexualisation of men, it’s just a focus on dick that nobody’s really that into
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 02:58 AM
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Counterpoint: men need to start sexualising themselves in a way that attracts women. I don’t understand how you guys see the success of male kpop idols and those alike who wear slutty croptops and tight shirts, and don’t immediately get into the revealing fashion community. You must experience peak sexualisation PLEASE, put in the effort
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 02:55 AM
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I want someone who will tell all their shit to me and I can comfort them in an affectionate way, and vice versa. I’d also like to have someone that makes me feel loved and can understand me. I feel bad because I don’t let my friends “understand me” because I’m actually seeking romantic affection 90% of the time when I’m upset. I genuinely don’t know why I’m not dating someone right now, or why I’m not letting my friends and family look after me
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:03 AM
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