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Well. Good to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 11:40 AM
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Does every response have to be relevant? I made a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 11:16 AM
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I'm a BDSM aficionado, and let me just say pegging isn't the kinkiest thing I've seen men admit to
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 08:39 AM
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I mean... No, I don't like all aspects of my husband's sexuality, but I definitely enjoy 80% of it. The other 20% - his weird navel fetish, for instance - I tolerate. It's not that bad, and the 80% makes it worth it to me. My question would be, why are women getting with dudes who expect them to do things they don't like doing? There are other fish in the sea.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 08:36 AM
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I don't feel that's true. I've enjoyed casual sex. The difference is, are you enjoying it at someone else's expense, or are you enjoying it honestly? If the former, you are scum. If the latter, have fun!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 08:31 AM
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1.) They can give you fashion advice. Fashion is complicated, man. It's difficult. Women spend a lot of time being judged by their sense of fashion, so they have a pretty strong grasp of "what to wear and not wear," for the most part, by the time they're in their 20s. Men, on the other hand... Well, uh, there's a reason "socks-and-sandals" is colloquially called "mandals" around here. I'm a masc-presenting queer woman, so my fashion sense isn't great, but it's still much better than that of like…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 08:15 AM
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I think what we expect you to do is get therapy to treat the obvious social deficiencies rather than become a "diehard, proud anti-feminist". No one's anti-nerd. Being a "nerd" is the new mainstream cool - look at the hipster phenomenon. It's just, maybe if you're constantly being rejected, you should look inside yourself rather than blame society.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 07:52 AM
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I know this gets batted about often, but I'll bite. Have you considered exploring this in therapy? It seems like those first experiences (with men who probably didn't have great hygiene) have turned you off circumcised dicks, and it seems like this is something you want to get past. I wouldn't know - I was once in a long-term relationship with a guy who was uncircumcised, so I don't reject entirely based on circumcision - but IDK, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 06:01 AM
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Yes, she was taking advantage of him. Yes, it's rape. Women can rape men. I'm really sick of this assertion that they can't, because it invalidates men who have been raped and have very limited support. There is no difference. Yes, it matters that he was black-out drunk. No, it doesn't matter that he was an active participant in the making out/Uber ride/whatever - she pursued him, she was still sober, she was a scumbag because she didn't ensure he got home safely. Dan is allowed to have whatever…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 04:26 AM
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I mean... If you know better than to have those little tufts of hair just hanging out on the side of your head, you can still work it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 04:13 AM
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Well: *I'm a butch-presenting bisexual woman, so most people find it surprising, to say the least, when they find out I'm attracted to other butch women. I'm a feminist who's strongly against male circumcision, but I also enjoy sex with circumcised guys far more than I ever did with an uncircumcised guy. *I'm bisexual, which supposedly only exists for male pleasure according to some awful, awful lesbians. *I'm Jewish, and when I date a white guy, I only date strong, beefy-looking white guys with…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 04:12 AM
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It's not really attraction for me. I find them easier to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 04:06 AM
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I'm not exclusively attracted to circumcised penises, but I find them easier to fuck. I've noticed that when I have sex with an uncircumcised guy, I tend to experience a lot of irritation and some not-so-minor infections (I know, gross, but still). It's also much harder to put a condom on the guy in my experience because the skin's kinda hanging everywhere, which makes birth control a pain in the ass. I justify it by saying that most of the men my age are circumcised, not through any fault of my…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 04:03 AM
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Anecdotal, but I know quite a few guys who started losing their hair in their 20s. My husband included.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 03:59 AM
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Also, please stop assuming this is a personal issue for me. It really, really isn't. I don't experience street harassment as often as I once did. I live in a small town (I once lived in Chicago) and am married to a well-liked, somewhat influential person. He's not famous or rich or anything, but he advocates for charity organizations, so many people like him a lot. I'm kind of seen as part of his "unit," so people treat me with a lot more respect than they did when I was single. It's just... why…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 07:54 PM
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No. I didn't say I felt "raped" (ew, that's really gross terminology) when people give me unwanted compliments. I said it made me uncomfortable and that it was completely unnecessary in the scheme of things. It's not the same thing, not even a little bit. Does it matter that "Chad" might be able to do that in a specific circumstance without anyone protesting? No, because even "Chad" needs to stop assuming everyone wants his opinion of other women's bodies inserted everywhere. Plenty of people re…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 07:36 PM
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No. But imagine if someone followed you around telling you they like your hair. Imagine them being offended when you don't fall to your knees in gratitude and screaming at you to "be polite!" Imagine having this happen every. single. day. Then imagine that these people go on to say that you shouldn't feel scared or angry when people offer you random compliments.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 01:34 PM
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"We" meaning people who care about this shit. It doesn't have to include you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 01:31 PM
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Your theory is as valid as mine, you know. Mine has a lot of science behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 01:30 PM
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Fighting =\= abuse, you know. Abuse is about control. Fighting is about solving problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 01:29 PM
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You cared about what you were arguing about, right? You wouldn't argue with anyone about a topic you don't care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 01:28 PM
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The hypocrisy of it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what you think Chad can do. What matters is that we have repeatedly told most men to stop, and they do not hear us.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 02:18 AM
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... But it has everything to do with the OP. Many women don't want unprovoked compliments from anyone. The ones that do won't be harmed by not getting compliments every second of every day. It's intrusive and rude and can lead to actual violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 02:15 AM
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I watch solo masturbation porn of women. My favorite kink right now is edging. I'd say it fits in pretty well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 02:12 AM
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Say it with me: Feminism is not a monolith.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 02:09 AM
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Unfortunately, many of us have seen one lead to the other within seconds, so they aren't separable to us. We don't know if you're safe to be around, and you're ignoring us instead of trying to make us feel safer. We have repeatedly told you that your compliments are unwelcome in public spaces. You refuse to listen. And the thing is, you don't NEED to give a strange woman a compliment. You want to. A woman NEEDS a sense of safety and privacy, so in essence, you're promoting your desires over her …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 02:05 AM
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Violence, however, IS oppression, and many women have been assaulted or worse for ignoring or rejecting a stranger. Perhaps the number isn't as high as the number of women who are assaulted by known people,!but speaking anecdotally, almost every woman I know has known someone who was assaulted, threatened, stalked, followed home, or murdered for rejecting a stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 01:11 AM
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How is that gas lighting? If you respond to momentary rejection with rage and violence, then you aren't a nice guy. Usually the first rejections that trigger this rage happen when men are in their teens - when they're kids. And you know what? Many people don't date seriously in their teens. That isn't a bad thing, because often these people get to mature, but these men turn a very normal part of adolescence into a horrible slight against all men everywhere. "I'm a nice guy because I don't litera…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 11:27 PM
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Compliments can be oppressive in a number of ways. For instance, when a woman ignores your compliment, do you accuse her of being rude, or do you take it as the (very polite) rejection that it is? Most men do the former. Also, when are you going to accept that not every woman wants to be complimented at every point in her day?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 11:20 PM
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Actually, men succeed at suicide more, but women attempt suicide more often. The reason why men succeed more often is because they aren't afraid to use messy methods, not because they're somehow more suicidal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 11:16 PM
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For the most part, we fight when our emotional needs aren't being met. A woman who fights is a woman who loves you. If she stops fighting altogether, even when the problem hasn't been solved, she doesn't love you and is likely planning to leave you. Guarantee it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 07:29 PM
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Maybe she hits you with "I'm fine" because she knows you don't care. At that point, I would advise her to leave, because you're a dick and life is too short for your nonsense. Your other points would be valid, except nagging implies that she has tried to communicate. For some reason, she failed, so she tries again. And again. And again... Really, if you tried to listen rather than assume everything, you might get further.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 04:06 AM
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I don't believe that. If I did, I would absolutely not marry a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 02:13 AM
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Some do. That's why a woman who only wants your money isn't going to argue. She knows she was bought.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 02:11 AM
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I said that in other comments, my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 11:34 PM
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Because at some point everyone wants excitement. You can be fundamentally boring and still enjoy doing things other than Netflix and Gaming every once in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 05:45 PM
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Yeah, we agree on the idea that nagging isn't going to fix things. It's bad communication born from frustration. Also, women do want boring men. I married a boring man. I love him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 05:43 PM
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No, because she doesn't spend her entire life analyzing her own beliefs and ideas at every single moment. Also, there's a not insignificant chance that she's already said this and he didn't listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 05:40 PM
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Your point, then, is what - that men don't have to try to improve their relationship, even though women are expected to do all sorts of things? Also, plenty of boring women exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 05:38 PM
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She's unhappy because he's forcing her to make every single decision ever in the house. A relationship is a partnership, not a dictatorship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 05:37 PM
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1.) Being boring is something you can fix. Go out dacing. Go to the park. Take her on a picnic. Join a goddamn book club. 2.) Being agreeable is not a flaw. Being passive is. Are you agreeable (meaning flexible and cheerful/affable), or are you passive (meaning you refuse to make any decisions whatsoever about your own household and then get upset when she makes them for you and you don't like the outcome)? In the first case, she wouldn't nag. In the second case, she would, because it's literall…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 05:34 PM
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I've dated women. Usually nagging can be solved with the other person asking "How are you feeling? Is there something I can do to make your life easier?" and then opening up the conversation. If you can't do that, then don't date. Spare the female population your bullshit, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 05:30 PM
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You're right. It's a bad attempt at communicating, but it's one that occurs because the woman is trying as hard as she can with no reciprocation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 05:27 PM
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Yeah, well, I called the police and was told that I shouldn't even get a restraining order, even though I had bruises, my abuser had been arrested for proven domestic violence before, and had been charged with a felony for setting someone's car on fire. Two can play the anecdote game.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 05:26 PM
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I think many women nag because they want the relationship to work, but there's just no communication going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 05:24 PM
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Were you there, or are you just taking their word for it? It seems to me that men who hit their wives wouldn't tell someone that. My abuser says he didn't hit me to this day, even though I have witnesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 05:23 PM
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Speaking as someone who called the police in response to being viciously assaulted... Yes, bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 05:17 PM
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Yes. I had three abusive partners. Two were one night stands who wouldn't leave me alone. One was a long term relationship that I wasn't invested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 05:15 PM
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If she fights back when you're being an asshole, she loves you. If she doesn't fight back, either she's with you for your resources, or she has trouble with confrontation. It's fairly easy to differentiate between the two. No one likes to fight, but it's usually worth it if you're trying to get your emotional needs met in the relationship. If she doesn't fight at all, ask yourself why and try to answer that question.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 05:12 PM
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Way to not respond to the meat of my opinion, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 08:43 PM
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To explain: all men are capable of cheating (meaning they could if they wanted to). Not all men want to or feel that cheating would make their lives easier. My husband could cheat if he wanted to. I know, however, that he doesn't want to, and that makes the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 07:05 PM
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...Why does anyone think this?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 07:02 PM
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Well the thing is, we live in a culture where women can end up in inescapable abusive relationships. Women die because they ignore red flags. And yeah, you can say that the woman could call the police, but that won't do a ton of good if he murders her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 01:42 AM
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It usually isn't "no reason".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 07:55 PM
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Yes. I'm bi, so I know what I'm talking about. For one thing, women have to flirt cautiously. They are often incredibly aware of the fact that flirting with the wrong person can get them hurt. One thing that I've seen as a woman is that women can be into a person, and then turn that interest on a dime in order to protect themselves when they see yellow or red flags. The person who was a solid sexual/romantic prospect becomes a risk. That's where a lot of the "friend-zone" conversations come from…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 07:49 PM
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Well, lesbian culture is also very feminist. Femme lesbians are often excluded or pressured to present in a more "butch" way. Bisexual women are mocked, and many assume that we're incapable of fidelity because we admit to fucking men. A lesbian with feminine hobbies might behave in a way that's considered "heteronormative," so many lesbians avoid it. This is overwhelmingly true where I am. It may be less true in other places. Het culture often has an equal but opposite reaction on women. A strai…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 08:28 PM
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Of course I consider my significant other when making decisions. To do otherwise would be absolutely selfish of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 07:47 PM
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In my opinion? As a woman who dates women, and is attracted to women when not married to a man? Yes. Feminine hobbies absolutely enhance a woman's attractiveness. Then again, lesbian culture is very different from heterosexual culture and has some very different rules attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 07:46 PM
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Usually, no-makeup-makeup is worn professionally, not "out on the town."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 07:42 PM
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I don't. I wear lipstick when I write. When I leave the makeup on as I'm going to work, it inevitably runs down my face and makes me look like one of those Myspace Goth wannabes from 2005. It's not a pleasant look when you're trying to be a normal, professional human being, particularly if you work in food service.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 07:40 PM
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So learn how to clean them properly? Why should you mutilate a baby in order to appease your aesthetic tastes?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 11:38 AM
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For men: I think there need to be more DV shelters that serve men. I also think that the Lundy Bancroft "Women do not abuse men" line of thinking is outdated and ridiculous and needs to be abolished, because that is absolutely untrue. This would also include men who have been raped by women. I think that some level of mental health outreach aimed at men would probably reduce the number of incels and solve a lot of other issues posed by RP as well. I won't deny that some people need healthy sexua…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 11:37 AM
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1.) Most don't ACTUALLY marry their high school sweethearts. Intentions and a metro card get you on the subway. 2.) The CDC average includes men who were assaulted as children in that average. It isn't a median. It's far more likely that most men lose their virginity after 17.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 10:35 PM
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I mean, I understand that too, but shouldn't everyone be more practical about a wedding if they couldn't afford to supplement the costs of one and the couple couldn't/didn't want to fork out for it either? Maybe it's just the fact that my side of the church will be empty for a reason, but it just... Feels wrong... That people expect couples to fork over money so others can celebrate their life decisions. Not that it doesn't happen. It happened to me. It just disturbs me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 11:08 AM
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1.) No, I did not. I'm not actually a very nice person. My internet persona is very different from what I'm like in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 05:20 AM
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Actually, most reputable studies suggest that heterosexual relationships still have the highest break-up rates. Lesbian breakup rates are actually still 2% lower than heterosexual breakups.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 05:19 AM
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Some women actively pursue men who are in relationships. You do remember this right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 05:17 AM
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Honestly, if he wanted a wedding, he should have paid for one. That's what my husband and I told our in-laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 05:02 AM
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Okay, for a minute there I thought you were going to put your Xanax in someone's drink, and I was just like "okay that's rape". Edit: I know that's not the case now, and yes, you probably do have anxiety. Edit 2: And no, most men do not lose their virginity around 16. They PRETEND to lose their virginities at around 16. Most men, particularly men who don't have high-school sweethearts that they eventually intend to marry, don't lose their virginities until after college, so you're probably good.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 04:57 AM
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Female. Blue-leaning purple pill. Nineteen. (It would have been seventeen, but I didn't want to get my partner arrested. My state doesn't have Romeo and Juliet laws and my mother repeatedly threatened to have my partner arrested if we had sex before I turned 18. Then we broke up and I discovered I was at least somewhat attracted to women.)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 04:56 AM
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I'm in college as an English/Computer Science double major, and I was taught The Awakening. Should it be taught as the epitome of feminist literature? ...No. Kate Chopin has other, better work that could be taught. Should it be taught as a realistic portrayal of a woman's deep emotional world? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 10:34 PM
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1.) Distance. 2.) Time. 3.) Chocolate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 10:32 PM
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Female, 25. I have a weird habit of ending up succeeding women (it's mostly women tbh) who are waaaay out of my league. My first love was a 10 out of 10 on the attractiveness scale (she works as a model now and is in medical school), and we almost got married. o.O As for men... I don't like conventionally attractive men. I prefer men with pretty obvious "flaws" (like a pot-belly or a long facial structure). I think a guy has to look interesting to keep me interested, since I'm primarily attracte…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 10:28 PM
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I think we often ignore the rule in favor of the exceptions when discussing this rule. Sometimes people can enter age-gap relationships and turn them into healthy encounters. Often, however, even the most well-meaning older person manipulates their younger partner into doing what they want to do. It takes a very strong-willed person to resist that, and often romantic feelings can erode that will. Will I turn my nose down on an age-gapped couple? No. I try not to judge other people. Will I person…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 10:23 PM
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Tattoos. Don't do it, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 10:17 PM
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I'd say that people who are attractive get a pass on a lot of things, but at a certain point, creepy's still creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 10:17 PM
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I'd say there's a difference between fiction and reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 10:16 PM
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Not Red Pill, but... yes, my husband is out of my league. Does this provide incentive for me to stay in check? No. I don't see what I do for my husband as "staying in check," since everything "traditional" that I do for him involves making both of us happier and contributing to a peaceful household. I have sex with him often because my husband's attractive. When I gave birth, I didn't have sex with him for more than eight months (because it was painful) and I didn't enjoy it. Now, we have sex ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 10:14 PM
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Yes, I have been in an abusive relationship. (Actually, I've been in two that were actually relationships.) The first was with a guy. I called him Nate in a prior comment. He and I dated for three months. During that time, he cheated on me and then refused to acknowledge the cheating by gaslighting me. I dumped him after that, then he killed my cat and left it on my doorstep. He's now in jail for violating the restraining order I had to get out after that incident. The second was with a woman. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 10:04 PM
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I've had good experiences with people who had mental illnesses and... uh, bad experiences. The good: I'm married to a man with bipolar disorder, and my longest relationships have been with people who had some kind of psychiatric disorder. Usually, bipolar disorder. My first love had bipolar disorder. (We'll call her Laura.) We stayed together for two and a half years. She went through phases where she didn't believe in love or relationships, and there was a bit of back-and-forth, but ultimately …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 09:37 PM
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Not Red Pill, but I kind of understand the idea behind it. It's why I don't date men who sympathize with Red Pill ideology. Red Pill men aren't asking women to treat every man like he's her husband. They're asking her to understand what men go through and empathize with their personal beliefs and ideologies. I think that's a pretty normal thing to want from a partner. Like, yeah, maybe don't seek male attention constantly, but would you want to be with a partner who, say, doesn't empathize with …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 09:15 PM
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My husband makes me glad to wake up in the morning because I get to see his goofy early-morning yawn. I love the weirdest things about him. He has perfect feet, his legs are perfectly long for his frame, and he has a large bush of chest hair that smells like a blend of his sweat and that Evergreen body wash I bought him for our first dating anniversary. It has now become His Scent, and for weird mental health reasons I can no longer sleep if I don't smell it. I can never figure out what color hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 02:08 AM
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I'd say neither. Sometimes TeRPs are gross in ways they don't understand. They're bitter when they shouldn't be. They aren't realistic about their own rating and so pursue women way out of their league. They sabotages their good qualities - intelligence, sensitivity, good oral technique, acceptance of kinky sex - in favor of a misogynistic idea that has no bearing on reality. They also refuse to better themselves in any way, instead asserting that they DESERVE it. Chad gets it! Why shouldn't TeR…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 01:51 AM
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Instead, women were regularly subjected to corrective rape and were forced to bear their rapists' children. In the rare instance that the woman wasn't broken by this treatment, she was shipped off to a brothel, wherein she would proceed to contract syphilis and spend the rest of her numbered days in a cold, dark room. Personally, I'd prefer an old-fashioned hanging to dying slowly of syphilis after decades of corrective rape and forced birth. Of course, this ignores the fact that many wealthy me…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 12:14 AM
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Women realllllly don't like bi chicks, either. Identifying as a lesbian would have made my life a lot easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 10:52 PM
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...I still identify as bi now, at 25. My first love was a woman, my first sexual encounter was with a woman, and I've dated many other women since. In fact, I've only seriously dated two guys. One of them was trans and came out in the middle of our relationship. The other is my husband. If anything, I thought I was gay. I sought a way to be honest about my attraction to women and still bury myself in the closet. I was wrong in this instance, but many others do it for similar reasons and find tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 10:50 PM
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Well, in my experience it's not that I gravitate towards men. It's a numbers game. I mostly dated women, but even then, I had to go out of my way to find them. Sometimes I didn't even succeed - I live in a conservative area, so a lot of people fear for their safety if they're openly gay. The fact that I'm like 75% attracted to women didn't ultimately matter, because there were more straight men than there were gay women. Of course I was more likely to end up with a guy. Doesn't mean I didn't lov…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 10:45 PM
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No, they're about equally as bad for both.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 10:39 PM
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Wow. Don't cut yourself on that edge, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 09:14 AM
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1.) Internet stats would tell you that bisexual women are also rejected often by other women. 2.) Knowing people in real life = anecdotal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 09:04 AM
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Forgive me for asking, but how do you know what bisexual women do when confronted with bisexual men if you're not a bisexual man? It seems like this is anecdotal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 08:57 AM
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Has this ever happened to you? Because this has never happened to me. Most of my bisexual friends are in relationships with bisexual men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 08:54 AM
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TL;DR: Men and women are shamed for different things when they come out as bisexual. For women, the insults are a lot more personal, come from many different people, and also come with an extra helping of assault. Men suffer the same things, but for different reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 08:52 AM
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In some respects. It's a very different mechanism for shaming, however. People assume bisexual men are gay, but don't want to admit it. To be fair, this is a pretty standard thing in the gay community, where coming out as bisexual makes it easier for those around them to swallow the fact that they are, in fact, gay. It's much harder for openly-bisexual men to find women to date, but not nearly as hard for them to find men to date. They aren't shamed for being promiscuous. They're shamed for bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 08:43 AM
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I don't know my exact N, as I didn't exactly keep track. I usually increase it by 10 so that my partner has an idea of what they're dealing with, and for the most part, they appreciate the honesty. Eventually, I started increasing it a little more. I don't know why I did - I guess it was because I needed to pick a story and stick to it, and you know, when in doubt, go all out. I now estimated my N-count at about 50. The truth is probably about half that. Why? Because I didn't exactly keep count.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 08:28 AM
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First: People get into commitments without marriage. Cohabitation is far more common than it was, and for the most part it provides the same things without the wedding. Second: Even if they aren't, so what? Society will adapt.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 08:10 AM
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I have this thing where I ask my husband to sit on me when I get anxious or upset. So, one time I was having a miscarriage (my third one), and I was pretty moody then. My husband comes home, sees me asleep at 5 in the afternoon, knows I've been crying because my eyes are swollen, and sits on me. We cuddled lots that day.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 08:07 AM
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I don't have many friends period. Having a baby while in college is a pretty isolating experience. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 07:54 AM
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My husband and I had lots and lots of problems after I had a baby because of his penis size. You'd bet your ass I wished his dick was smaller back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 07:52 AM
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Contestant B, hands-down. Oral sex is integral to a uterus-holder's enjoyment of sex; if I had to go out with anyone, I'd go out with B, because I'd enjoy it more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 07:50 AM
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I'm bisexual, and I've had men claim that I was "slutty" because I couldn't decide. Eventually, it made me feel worse about myself. It sucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 07:43 AM
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It's a personal preference. I got really into Shibari (Japanese rope bondage) and it grew from there!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 10:27 PM
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This also isn't to say that I don't enjoy having kinky sex with others involved, of course. Threesomes are fair play. I just prefer for my partner to be there with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 10:05 PM
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I'm capable of being aroused by people upon a first meeting. I'm not capable of enjoying sex with them immediately after meeting them. Being aroused is different from being able to be vulnerable with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 07:56 PM
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1.) That was a type-o. I'll go fix it now. I'm on mobile. 2.) Yes, there are factors that mitigate an age gap. That doesn't mean that I, a stranger on the internet, am not allowed to side-eye. 3.) I don't believe someone who doesn't follow my rules are gross. I believe that my rules have served me well, and others might have different rules. That said, again, you don't know me. I am a stranger on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 04:12 PM
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And also, sexual experience isn't the same thing as being a stable person. Knowing how to tie someone up safely doesn't mean that you know how to communicate your desires and needs without acting controlling.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 04:04 PM
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I'm 25, and I guess I was being hyperbolic. It's a personal rule, we all have them, and I don't judge those who differ from it in some ways, but you have to admit that there is something off with 40-something men who actively pursue college students. The rule guided me through my teen years and landed me in a happy, healthy relationship, which statistically speaking was unlikely given the tons of baggage I have. It worked for me and prevented a lot of predatory behavior. Maybe someone else will …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 04:03 PM
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Okay, you are assuming that these women didn't want to have commitments. Of course they did - but many of us specify who we want those commitments with. These women wanted intellect and good sex. That isn't so much to ask for.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 03:33 PM
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Speaking as a bisexual person who knows furries, dating rules are disparate from community rules. The rules aren't exactly the same, but they do sorta follow the same general principles. There are exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 03:31 PM
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I didn't say that's why these girls got into those relationships. I merely said that those older men tended to be more financially stable. For the most part, the women got into these relationships for intellectual stimulation and experience in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 03:28 PM
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I mean... It is, if you're looking for a monogamous relationship, which I was. There are a lot more people looking for polyamory, but people don't change just because they're into weird shit. They still want companionship with the weird sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 03:26 PM
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However, I saw the same theme play out in my friends who got into relationships with older men. These men didn't have their lives together, they were recovering from divorce, and while they offered financial stability, they offered little else.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 03:24 PM
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Yeah, I did... Back when I was active in my local kink community. Older Doms are generally safer and more experienced than younger Doms.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 03:23 PM
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Except in my experience "tall sexy Chad" is much older than the "comfort" guy. My partner's only two years older than me and being with him is like being in love with a blanket. It's so nice to be with someone who's compatible with me and is in the same life stage as me. The 40-something I dated (not exclusively), however, was moody, had an alcohol problem, regularly slept with younger women, and while he did want to commit, he never proved it until I was already pregnant with another dude's chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 02:56 PM
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Yes... but it's not as large of an age gap as one might believe. I only date people (not just men - I've always been bi) who are between two and five years older than me. If they're younger, they're typically not in a place where they want to commit. If they're older, they're creepy and gross and why the fuck would you want to date an early-20-something when you're in your 30s anyway? Gross. I'm now married-in-all-but-paperwork (paperwork in my state is a bitch) to a guy who's 27 to my 25, and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 02:49 PM
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Wow. The level of misogyny here is astounding. I don't think I should feel ashamed about having a baby. The fact that you call it "the wall" is ridiculous; if I have hit the wall, I did so doing exactly what RP wants me to do, which is having a baby. The problem of having "too much skin" is a problem caused by losing too much weight too fast; I will not be losing that much weight at all, and I intend to do so in a healthy way. The excess skin will go away, it always does if you keep the weight o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 11:25 PM
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Well, a few things. (You gave me a lot to read and I do have a life.) Only one of those studies accounts for differences in young lesbian dating habits. The term "uhauling" came about for a reason. Only one of those studies really suggested that lesbians have higher divorce rates than straight couples. Most studies suggest that lesbians have lower divorce rates than straight couples. Notably, the studies didn't control for other factors, like age at first marriage and income level - many of thes…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 10:42 PM
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I never said I was averse to such generalizations. I said mine were more accurate from my experience. The thing is, it's gross to see men date twenty somethings, complain about nagging women who in all likelihood are just trying to state what they want like adults, and then complain that women have agency in the dating game when the game you're playing is designed to rob women of agency. Maybe I have the right to be bitter about that. And no, it isn't about envy. I'm 24, and before having a baby…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 05:03 PM
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I mean, I'm blue pill, but holy hell, that was not because of feminism. That was because your parents were fucked up and abusive. You were abused by both your mother and your sister, and the behavior you describe - glorification followed by devaluation - is a classic symptom of BPD, which many think is caused by abuse. I know I can come across as very mean and snarky on this sub, but one abuse victim to another, if you need someone to talk to about this who can divorce themselves from the redpil…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 03:27 PM
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1.) Yes, yes we are choosing the men you were "raised to respect" - unless you were "raised to respect" a man who is a sexist dickhead, in which case, no, we aren't choosing that man. 2.) Perhaps the problem here is that you expect women to abide by a contract that we were never informed of? A contract that we might have accepted had any of us known it had existed? I mean I personally don't believe that contract exists, but hey.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 10:14 AM
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Aren't RPers of the mindset that those who don't get anything they want are totally to blame for their circumstances? I could do sweeping generalizations here too, and in my experience they'd be more accurate. In my experience, women tend to settle down with men they match in intelligence, looks, and income; why is that such an aberration to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 07:14 AM
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Source please. (And no, I will not google that, because you should totally be able to back that shit up.)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 07:04 AM
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Except... this isn't true? Women don't get what they want easily from men. Men don't get what they want easily from women. Men are angry because women now have the agency to make their own decisions and are often choosing to stay away from subpar men. The problem here is that men have always had agency. It's shocking to you to see that women have it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 10:39 PM
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I'm 24, and I've seen women my age get used and groomed by men in the age range you specified. I've seen it since I was twelve. Men who want a younger woman don't want her for her intellect or her creativity, even though she may well have those things. He wants her because she is pliable, she is easy to change, and she is more likely to give the man what he wants (children, in other words). Why should I support the supposition that this anger towards old men who pursue young women is based in je…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 10:32 PM
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Except that really isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 10:17 PM
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I was on Tinder for like a day before realizing that I hated it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 08:59 PM
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Word.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 08:57 PM
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You have a point, I think. However, you're mistaken if you believe that men don't voice their distaste for women with high N counts - even if those N counts occurred as the result of a bad breakup, or if they occurred as the result of a mental illness that has since been treated (mania can cause hypersexuality). Even if the woman was careful to not hurt anyone with her sexual behavior, she is still openly seen as harmful to society. I'm bipolar and have a high N count as the result of a weird ps…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 02:56 AM
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I should backtrack. They don't look MORE satisfying than lesbian relationships or straight relationships. A good gay relationship is as satisfying as a good lesbian relationship is as satisfying as a straight relationship. No response to my other point? How sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 01:53 AM
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We do? Seems kinda weird to me, since I've literally never seen that in my group of friends. For the most part we choose who we can most comfortably fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 10:03 PM
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You act like there is a norm to start with. In my experience, women who date the traditional Chad aren't the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 09:46 PM
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Tall means different things to different women, though. I'm 5'3, so anything above 5'7" sort of makes me look tiny in comparison. Women like men who are taller than them, but there are few men who aren't taller than, for instance, my sister, who's 4'11".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 09:45 PM
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I never date anyone who WOULDN'T allow me to fuck Tyrian. That's first-date stuff right there. My fiancé wouldn't date anyone who wouldn't let him fuck Catelyn Stark and Margaery Tyrell, so you know, different strokes and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 09:38 PM
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Maybe the reason some women like it so much is because it's different. Unique.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 09:19 PM
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What about the highly-popular punk-rock trend? What about metrosexual men who wind up banging really hot women? I suspect the problem here is that many men believe women are a hive mind. We aren't. I'm attracted to fussy, overanxious, hairy men. Many women are attracted to punk-rock guys who could easily pass as women. Who cares what you are so long as you're happy? Edit: a word
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 09:17 PM
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My reasoning was this. 1.) Accords are comfy as shit. 2.) They look cute. 3.) They're extremely reliable, making it much easier for me to get where I want to go (which is everywhere). 4.) Everyone I admire on any level has one, therefore to be like the people I admire and not like those overspending conspicuous consumption weirdos I see on TV, I should get a Honda.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 07:08 PM
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My reasoning was this. 1.) Accords are comfy as shit. 2.) They look cute. 3.) They're extremely reliable, making it much easier for me to get where I want to go (which is everywhere). 4.) Everyone I admire on any level has one, therefore to be like the people I admire and not like those overspending conspicuous consumption weirdos I see on TV, I should aspire to that. Now, I am aspiring to that... with a moped.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 07:05 PM
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For the record, I also feel that men need security too, but that they don't overtly seek it for fear of appearing less masculine. I think security is a basic human need.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 08:34 PM
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Gay relationships aren't more satisfying from the outside looking in, if my friends' statements are any indication. They're dramatic and hard to handle. And really, nagging is your biggest complaint? I was harassed and stalked for two years because of a series of events that stemmed from reading a book. My story is actually tamer than most; a lot of het women report physical violence, intimidation, isolation from friends and family, and harming of pets. And we can't change our sexual orientation…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 06:23 PM
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Yes, lesbians tend to seek relationships for sex. I would argue that many women need security in sex, and the best way to get that is through relationships. Doesn't mean we don't also need casual sex, but hell. We also understand other women and so are better at finding a casual sexual partner in that pool. We understand how to flirt without being overbearing, how to push the woman's buttons, etc. It might be hard to find other lesbians, but once we do, it kinda turns into the L Word in a hot mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 06:13 PM
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Patently untrue, re the lesbian part. I'm bisexual, I would know.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 09:26 AM
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Seriously, I wonder about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 09:25 AM
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Also, the most dramatic, cinematic movies of our time are also movies geared towards men. Reservoir Dogs? Fight Club? The Godfather? Mad Men? The Wire? The Sopranos? Breaking Bad? Dragon Ball Z? Akira? This is changing, but it hasn't changed that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 08:58 AM
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I dated both men and women in my hayday. My two cents. Women and men have different kinds of drama. Women are better at starting drama, but they also forgive more easily. Men don't start as much drama, but they don't forgive very easily at all. Kinda equal in different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 08:54 AM
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Yeah. I was being silly, my apologies. :) still, I have my theories as to why, which you can feel free to retort or support as you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 08:40 AM
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I think TRP "succeeds" because it allows men to simulate this growth before it actually happens. The fact that these men haven't actually grown is unnoticeable until it's too late for the woman to leave. I think that's predatory, and I think that TRP isn't doing enough to ward off other problems that predominantly impact men (increased suicide? prison rape? child custody rights?). I feel that if they truly cared about men, they would try to prove it by acting as a cohesive group to solve these p…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 08:37 AM
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I found out he was getting into TRP when he started sending me links to posts he read that supposedly described me. (He did this for a few years after we broke up and started sharing the love, so to speak, with my fiance after he found out I was heavily pregnant with my fiance's kid.) He also wrote a few about me and other heartless jerks, IIRC, before he deleted his account. I do think TRP at the very least is striking a chord with people, and I feel like the reasons for that should be explored…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 08:33 AM
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Well... I date Poindexter girls AND guys. Plus, it's just who I have things in common with. I'm really into scifi, so I naturally meet other people who are too. The thing is, though, my most horrible, abusive relationship was with a Poindexter who presented himself to be a nice guy. I fell for the image - that of a nice, stable, ambitious guy - and discovered that underneath it was a guy who was jealous, controlling, and extremely insecure. I tried to make it work for three months before he scre…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 06:13 AM
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...and now I am examining my nature and realizing that I am in fact quite weird. My dream car when I was a kid was a Honda. T.T
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 05:21 AM
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I kind of disprove this theory, because while I have dated around, I have pretty exclusively dated Poindexter types. I used to be pretty exclusively attracted to Nice Guy types (especially in my teens). You wanna talk about emotionally abusive, dramatic men? Date a Nice Guy. It is exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 05:19 AM
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I'm the opposite. I literally only date Poindexters. -.-
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 05:17 AM
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This is just what I've heard, but: Men are willing to say and do anything to get a woman in bed. Once they do, they throw things like basic respect and honesty out the window. A friend of mine got an STD that way. They also find that the guys they fuck are less attentive to their needs, and so the sex isn't that great. This happens regardless of whether a woman's chaste or not, because she isn't always aware of it. Straight women might stay in a relationship with a guy she isn't that attracted t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 05:17 AM
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Well, 1.) People are marrying older nowadays, which provides for a lower libido and a higher offspring support ability, and 2.) See previous comments, they sum up my feelings quite well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 05:01 AM
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