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Intactivismbasefx/r/MensRights01/01/19 11:07 PM
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16

There's enough grown men for you to indulge your fetish for scarification with, why is that a relevant reason for unnecessarily touching and cutting healthy children's genitals?
/r/MensRights04/12/24 05:28 PM
15

They're conditioned into seeing and being aroused by genital scars, and of course they never have to interact with those with more disfiguring and or dysfunction causing complications because they aren't as likely to pursue sexual relationships, so it's easy for many so called feminists to disregard on an ethical level.
/r/MensRights14/02/23 11:24 AM
0

Which of those benefits would be considered acceptable reasons for you to forcibly retract and sever the prepuce and frenulum from a healthy 30 year old person's genitals?
/r/MensRights10/02/23 03:13 PM
8

How many intact penises had you seen before determining categorically that penises look 'nicer'?
/r/MensRights09/02/23 05:32 PM
9

Are women really 'crazy' about an exposed glans or is that a complication of the unresolved trauma from witnessing younger relatives being cut and lifelong indoctrination into the belief that it's attractive?
/r/MensRights09/02/23 05:09 PM
6

If that were true why aren't the vast majority of males rushing to have the procedure done?
/r/MensRights09/02/23 02:05 AM
6

Most of the world's males have their prepuce and frenulum intact and never need or want them removed. Would it be considered bad if someone forcibly retracted and severed that anatomy from a healthy 30 year old person's genitals?
/r/MensRights09/02/23 01:57 AM
22

It's about bodily autonomy. If the alleged risk reduction or religious compulsion wouldn't be acceptable reasons to forcibly retract and sever the prepuce and frenulum from a healthy adult person's genitals, why should that change in the previous stages of their life?
/r/MensRights28/01/23 04:51 PM
28

Pushy hospital staff, and or buying into the propaganda that their son will be 'weird' and face ridicule.
/r/MensRights21/01/23 06:06 PM
3

Did you know about the abuse before marrying her?
/r/MensRights03/10/22 01:39 PM
4

You don't think that's selection bias on his part? Working in a surgery clinic all he's going to see are ones with pre-existing conditions which isn't representative of the whole, when would he ever encounter the healthy intact men?
/r/MensRights25/09/22 04:45 AM
2

what did I really end up losing and should I let it go because it’s in the past and I can’t change it. It's about knowing better and doing better for the next generation. Even if you yourself don't plan on having children there's still a moral obligation to speak up for those who can't for themselves. As for religion, if it would be wrong to force posthectomy on a healthy adult, taht shouldn't change in any of the life stages prior.
/r/MensRights25/09/22 04:35 AM
6

How are you glad about your parents' decision in having your prepuce removed if you can't articulate the reasons why?
/r/MensRights17/09/22 11:01 PM
6

It shouldn't have to be spelled out that OP is referring to the forced genital cutting of minors that happens without a valid diagnosis in 99.99% of cases, not elective surgery an adult chooses for themselves.
/r/MensRights17/09/22 12:37 PM
4

Would a healthy nonconsenting 30 year old person say there were no adverse effects if you unneccesarily touched and severed the prepuce from their genitals?
/r/MensRights17/09/22 12:35 PM
6

How did having your prepuce removed at birth improve your life?
/r/MensRights17/09/22 12:30 PM
5

There's a vast difference between someone consenting on their own due to pre-existing dysmorphia and unnecessarily touching and removing functional anatomy from a healthy nonconsenting person's genitals.
/r/MensRights17/09/22 12:29 PM
3

Then what frame of reference are you using in saying it's nicer than being intact when yours was removed before you could even form memories, let alone started puberty?
/r/MensRights17/09/22 12:18 PM
3

At what age did you choose to have your prepuce removed?
/r/MensRights16/09/22 09:28 PM
42

If infant genital cutting were truly beneficial, you'd think countries with better healthcare systems than America's would have adopted it by now.
/r/MensRights16/09/22 04:50 AM
3

Are you suggesting that there are no antivaxxers who are bigots who also support forced genital cutting? Why are you pretending as if leaving children intact is mutually exclusive to supporting appropriate vaccination and not being prejudiced?
/r/MensRights10/09/22 01:57 AM
8

Would it be considered assault if someone unnecessarily touched and severed the prepuce from a healthy nonconsenting 30 year old person's genitals?
/r/MensRights10/09/22 01:25 AM
11

If you say it's medical what chronic, fatal, infectious diseases are the vast majority of males regularly born with or suffering from and are only treatable or preventable by severing the prepuce and frenulum from a healthy person's genitals?
/r/MensRights10/09/22 01:23 AM
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Are ladies putting infant genitalia in their mouths? How is that an urgent let alone appropriate reason to cut?
/r/MensRights09/09/22 10:40 PM
3

Prophylactic interventions without consent are only medically and ethically valid if they are the least invasive method of averting a common & gravely imminent personal and or public health threat, how does severing the prepuce from a healthy person's genitals meet the criteria?
/r/MensRights09/09/22 07:32 PM
6

What chronic, fatal infectious diseases are the vast majority of males born with or suffering from and only treatable or preventable by severing the prepuce from a healthy person's genitals?
/r/MensRights09/09/22 02:04 PM
6

I can understand you making these arbitrary distinctions, as someone who had their genitals fondled and mutilated and was likely instrumental in having that inflicted on others denial is an important tool in staving off the pain of cognitive dissonance.
/r/MensRights09/09/22 12:49 PM
3

Between infancy and 30, at what age does it start being considered sexual assault if you unnecessarily touch and sever the prepuce from a healthy nonconsenting person's genitals?
/r/MensRights08/09/22 10:12 PM
1

That's his problem. It's fused. That's the natural state of the prepuce and glans while they develop, they don't naturally separate and become retractable until the onset of puberty. Premature retraction is what leads to problems. I suggest you consult with a doctor who's actually knowledgeable about the proper care and development of the intact anatomy and not just trying to pad their income with a possibly needless procedure.
/r/MensRights08/09/22 05:11 PM
1

If you actually read the study referenced in the article you'll notice a number of flaws in applying it to the results of infant genital cutting: This was a study of adult men who underwent Voluntary medical male circumcision (VMMC), who have vastly different genital physiology compared to that of infants who have not yet gone through puberty Methods: This is a cohort study of circumcised men who presented for follow-up 6 to 24 months after VMMC. Even if you ignore low sample size of just a litt…
/r/MensRights08/09/22 05:03 PM
1

Provide the links to the studies you read that say removing the prepuce provides more pleasure.
/r/MensRights08/09/22 01:40 PM
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What are the reasons it would be a problem if someone unnecessarily touched and severed the prepuce from a healthy nonconsenting 30 year old person's genitals that don't apply in any of the 29 years prior?
/r/MensRights08/09/22 01:38 PM
1

When he was a baby were you making sure to pull his foreskin down and clean under the glans?
/r/MensRights08/09/22 01:37 PM
1

According to the studies you've read, what happens during year 1 month 11 that makes it a big deal?
/r/MensRights08/09/22 01:33 PM
2

Would it be considered a problem if someone unnecessarily touched and severed the prepuce from a healthy nonconsenting 30 year old person's genitals?
/r/MensRights08/09/22 01:16 PM
3

What are you afraid will happen if it does gain traction?
/r/MensRights08/09/22 01:15 PM
1

Looks better, cleaner, and I think more pleasurable with sex. What frame of reference are you using in saying this when your prepuce was removed before you even started puberty?
/r/MensRights08/09/22 01:13 PM
1

How many other things from your teenage years are you still self-conscious about?
/r/MensRights08/09/22 01:12 PM
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Would it be considered abusive if you unnecessarily touched and severed the prepuce from a healthy nonconsenting 30 year old person's genitals?
/r/MensRights08/09/22 01:09 PM
1

If you plan on your son being born healthy, what are you afraid will happen if you don't?
/r/MensRights08/09/22 01:06 PM
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Do you plan on teaching your son how to brush his teeth or will he need surgery for that as well?
/r/MensRights08/09/22 01:03 PM
2

Would a healthy nonconsenting 30 year old person be glad if you unnecessarily touched and severed the prepuce from their genitals?
/r/MensRights08/09/22 01:01 PM
1

From your link: The risks of not being circumcised, however, are not only rare, but avoidable with proper care of the penis.
/r/MensRights08/09/22 12:59 PM
2

What noninvasive options were prescribed and failed?
/r/MensRights08/09/22 12:55 PM
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What noninvasive options were prescribed for your condition before surgery?
/r/MensRights08/09/22 12:52 PM
11

How has having your prepuce removed improved your life?
/r/MensRights04/09/22 03:21 PM
18

It shouldn't have to be spelled out that OP is referring to the cutting performed without a diagnosis on healthy nonconsenting individuals in 99.99% of cases.
/r/MensRights04/09/22 03:20 PM
4

Are you suggesting that males all males are born with human papillomavirus, genital herpes, or human immunodeficiency virus, and that severing the ridged band, shaft tissue and frenulum from a healthy person's genitals is the only effective method for treatment and prevention?
/r/MensRights15/07/22 06:21 PM
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If you're invoking vaccination, what chronic, fatal infectious diseases are males regularly born with or suffering from and only treatable or preventable by severing the ridged band, shaft tissue and frenulum from a healthy person's genitals?
/r/MensRights15/07/22 11:08 AM
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As a 16 year old you lack the capacity to grasp the nuance and context of the majority you'll see on this sub, you still operate under a binary thinking pattern that interprets the mere documentation of harmful double standards and ideologies, let alone principled critique as hate.
/r/MensRights14/07/22 03:55 PM
1

You said it was multiple nurses before, now it's one specific nurse? Infections don't happen by themselves, if they were taking care of the patients how are they occurring as regularly as they claim?
/r/MensRights07/07/22 08:43 PM
1

Do you deny that the large majority of cutting happens during infancy and childhood?
/r/MensRights07/07/22 08:37 PM
1

I hear it from the nurses a lot. So babies should be cut because decades later they might end up in a facility with staff as incompetent as the ones you know?
/r/MensRights06/07/22 01:50 PM
1

Why would a healthy person need to get circumcised at old age?
/r/MensRights06/07/22 01:41 PM
0

What problems were you having before surgery?
/r/MensRights06/07/22 01:39 PM
1

Why would you need a baby's genitals to be prettier?
/r/MensRights06/07/22 01:36 PM
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People who need it done as adults usually have some medical condition, so they aren't representative of the general population.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 01:33 PM
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If you say it isn't unnecessary touching, what chronic, fatal infectious diseases are males regularly born with or suffering from and only treatable or preventable by severing the ridged band, epithelial tissue and frenulum from a healthy person's genitals?
/r/MensRights30/06/22 12:41 AM
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If you unnecessarily touching and severed the prepuce from a healthy nonconsenting person's genitals would be unethical at age 30, in which of the previous 29 years does it change from ethical to unethical?
/r/MensRights30/06/22 12:04 AM
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Would it be considered evil if you unnecessarily touched and severed the prepuce from a healthy nonconsenting 30 year old person's genitals?
/r/MensRights29/06/22 05:28 PM
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You were one of the rare few born with defective anatomy that couldn't respond to normal treatment or prevention methods, which isn't the case for the 99.99% who are cut without a valid diagnosis.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 02:04 PM
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r/CircumcisionGrief
/r/MensRights29/06/22 01:59 PM
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You're playing the game of relative privation by citing worst case scenario pregnancies but ignoring worst case scenario circumcision/MGM where males suffer extreme disfigurement and dysfunction.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 01:58 PM
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At what age did you choose to have your prepuce removed?
/r/MensRights29/06/22 01:50 PM
2

I don't wanna have any recollection of my penis having scars and stitches. What makes you assume you would have been one of the 00.01% of adults who would have needed to have their prepuce removed?
/r/MensRights29/06/22 01:48 PM
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So when a parent decides to give their kid a vaccine, that's "stealing a healthy person's choice" of a baby that is a few days old? It depends on the vaccine, is the danger to public health substantial? Are they diseases that are highly contagious, spread through the air or through casual, impersonal, non-sexual contact, and have high morbidity and mortality? For example, how appropriate is HPV vaccination for a baby when unprotected sex with infected partners isn't a risk factor for them? How e…
/r/MensRights29/05/22 02:09 PM
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Stealing a healthy person's choice is a harm no matter how many poorly constructed strawmen you use to try and prove otherwise.
/r/MensRights15/05/22 02:17 PM
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If you unneccessarily touching and cutting functional anatomy from a healthy non-consenting 30 year old person's genitals is a harm of itself, in which of the previous 29 years does it stop being a harm?
/r/MensRights12/05/22 07:53 PM
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Maybe you're not doing it right?
/r/MensRights12/05/22 06:20 PM
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This only makes sense if you believe that nano size viral particles somehow avoid the urethra of cut males, or that condoms & PrEP don't exist.
/r/MensRights11/05/22 06:20 PM
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And you literally made the argument that an infant can choose at 2 weeks and rationalize the pros and cons. What sense would it make for me to be referring to a 2 week old person when I clearly used the word "competent"? with a lack of evidence showing harm Denial of evidence isn't a lack of evidence.
/r/MensRights11/05/22 12:56 PM
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A 2 week-old baby sleeps 16-20 hours per day and most of the other time is eating and pooping, but you think the 2 week-old baby can be weighing the risks and benefits of treatment? LMFAO You are truly delusional. Why are you pretending as if they stay in that state forever? With your logic why not arrange their marriage? Oh, can't have a life saving surgery because the baby didn't choose it. That type of intervention without consent is only medically & ethically valid if it's the least invasive…
/r/MensRights10/05/22 10:39 PM
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with nearly identical health conditions From the 1st study, what do you think Singh-Grewal meant when they said "No demographic details other than age were available for comparison between the two groups."? And how is it possible the two cohorts were nearly identical when in the study you linked that did have demographic details, the intact group had more radiologic procedures performed and a higher hospital stay duration? The third thing I posted was an article running through the common myths …
/r/MensRights08/05/22 03:49 PM
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Are you now trying to deny that the primary reason children are left intact in America? From the 1st study you linked: No demographic details other than age were available for comparison between the two groups. Your 2nd study uses propensity score matching to estimate the effect removing the prepuce would have on UTIs, which only accounts for the observed characteristics, and not the latent ones that would predispose them to being diagnosed, this is confirmed by the higher rate of radiologic eva…
/r/MensRights07/05/22 04:25 PM
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Dude. You have already decided not to acknowledge all of the studies that have proven that. Your studies used data from cutting cultures where the most common reason for a male being left intact was due to being born premature, their fragile state already predisposes them for UTIs. Premature babies are brought to the hospital by worried parents more frequently than term babies, premature babies are more likely to have their urine collected than term babies even when asymptomatic. The researchers…
/r/MensRights07/05/22 04:24 AM
3

But if you're parroting the claim that removing the prepuce is the most significant factor in reducing UTI, then there should also be an increase of UTIs in countries that reduced the number performed, where are the reports of that happening?
/r/MensRights06/05/22 07:51 PM
2

The UK dropped coverage for infant male genital cutting in their switch to the NHS, where are the reports of an increase in UTI diagnoses leading to surgery in the 70 years since?
/r/MensRights06/05/22 07:42 AM
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What was your glans coverage index level before surgery?
/r/MensRights06/05/22 02:32 AM
2

The person who stood to make $2000 from you told you that less invasive options don't work that well, and you believed them without bothering to try for yourself? Without getting a 2nd or 3rd opinion? That's not the financial flex you think it is.
/r/MensRights05/05/22 11:00 PM
2

It's rather the pain of your cognitive dissonance that prevents you from using any scrutiny whatsoever when examining arguments in favor of unnecessarily touching and cutting functional anatomy from a healthy non-consenting person's genitals.
/r/MensRights05/05/22 10:39 PM
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Expanding legal recourse for victims, I think right now only those with glans or shaft injuries are taken seriously.
/r/MensRights05/05/22 04:08 PM
2

You're ignorant about the impact confounding factors can have in a study. 1. Confounding variables can make it seem that cause-and-effect relationships exist when they don’t. So it would be dishonest for example, to claim that removing the prepuce treated UTIs, but didn't disclose that those cut were given a course of antibiotics to prevent infection post-surgery. 2. Confounding variables can mask the true cause-and-effect relationship between variables. It would also be dishonest to not disclos…
/r/MensRights05/05/22 02:30 PM
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You spent 2000 dollars for phimosis, when there are devices that treat it in 2 weeks for less than $200? Why should anyone trust someone who couldn't even bother to do their due dilligence?
/r/MensRights05/05/22 02:18 PM
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Your first two links don't control for prematurity, chronic constipation and lack of breastfeeding which are all risk factors for UTIs during infancy. And as for your final link, they're selling services for genital cutting, of course they're going to downplay the harms and make up benefits.
/r/MensRights05/05/22 04:40 AM
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Again your incompetence in maintaining hygiene was a personal problem, that's not an excuse to unnecessarily and nonconsensually touch and cut functional anatomy from a healthy person's genitals.
/r/MensRights05/05/22 04:32 AM
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https://mobile.twitter.com/DadzyDrogo/status/1520797882684747777
/r/MensRights05/05/22 04:20 AM
2

In places like Copenhagen, only 53 out of 200,000 males under the age of 18 needed genital surgery in a given year. This says that given the choice, 99.99% of kids would rather take care of themselves than not, and that the anatomy has value beyond needing to be cleaned. I get that you don't want to admit that your genitals were damaged for no good reason, but real-world statistics doesn't support your strawman arguments and fear mongering.
/r/MensRights05/05/22 01:27 AM
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because by then it's too late So it's like those infomercials where only the first 500 orders get free shipping? Between infancy and 30, at what exact age do the benefits no longer happen if you nonconsensually touch and sever the prepuce from a healthy person's genitals?
/r/MensRights05/05/22 12:18 AM
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Even if you weren't, the fact that you're arrogant enough to assume your alleged lack of pleasure applies to everyone else is reason alone to not trust what you're saying.
/r/MensRights05/05/22 12:07 AM
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trust me No, even if you weren't making this story up I wouldn't trust an 18 year old who spent $2000 dollars on genital surgery because they were too inconvenienced to clean themselves regularly.
/r/MensRights05/05/22 12:04 AM
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It's rather dishonest to attempt to divorce choice from this issue, competent people have the right to all decisions about their own medical care, the right to know what what the diagnosis is, what the prognosis is, and what the risks and benefits of any specific course of treatment are.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 05:32 PM
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If children can decide on who they marry as adults, why shouldn't they grow up and make decisions on the look and function of their own genitals?
/r/MensRights04/05/22 03:27 PM
7

A penis can, and is, and has been circumcised for millennia without any detrimental effects. Between infancy and 30, at what age does it start to have detrimental effects when you nonconsensually touch and sever the prepuce from a healthy person's genitals?
/r/MensRights04/05/22 03:08 PM
2

You're ignoring the collective legal and moral failure in allowing parents to have that abusive choice.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 02:05 PM
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I got a circumcision at 18 for medical reasons. But mannn, medical reasons aside, it is just way better being cut, cosmetically, and I wish my parents had’ve just got it out of the way when I was too young to remember, would’ve saved me like $2000 too. Why did you have to pay out of pocket if it was for medical reasons? At 18 you just had a couple thousand laying around for genital surgery? Men don’t derive pleasure from the foreskin. Because yours was defective you assume everyone else's is?
/r/MensRights04/05/22 02:00 PM
2

What chronic, fatal infectious diseases are males regularly born with or suffering from & only treatable or preventable by severing the ridged band, shaft tissue, and frenulum from a healthy person's genitals?
/r/MensRights04/05/22 01:46 PM
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Would it be considered a harm if you nonconsensually touched and severed the prepuce from a healthy 30 year old person's genitals?
/r/MensRights04/05/22 12:50 PM
2

Would it have negative consequences if you nonconsensually touched and severed the prepuce from a healthy 30 year old person's genitals?
/r/MensRights04/05/22 12:48 PM
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It's the least painful when you're a baby That's not accurate: Very young babies CAN feel pain and have a lower threshold than adults, say experts at Oxford. Young babies are more sensitive to pain than adults, according to study. Doctors previously assumed very young babies had high pain threshold. New findings by Oxford University shows newborn babies do react to pain. https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2015-04-21-babies-feel-pain-adults and there's no difference with or without it What metrics are you…
/r/MensRights04/05/22 12:46 PM
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What you're describing are the rare few born with defective anatomy that couldn't respond to normal prevention or treatment methods, that's not the case for the 99.99% who are cut without a valid diagnosis, how's that different than performing a partial orchiectomy on a healthy individual without their informed consent and claiming after the fact that you did it to reduce their risk of testicular torsion or cancer?
/r/MensRights04/05/22 12:32 PM
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You have no idea how much easier it is to keep a wound clean on an infant, than it is for any other age group from toddlers to teenagers You're creating a false dilemma where not cutting at birth guarantees needing to be cut later. Which is also why the best time to get it done is when you're a baby. Getting it done later increases the risk of complications due to infection. You don't trust an adult to be competent enough to do their own wound care without causing complication infections, but yo…
/r/MensRights04/05/22 09:58 AM
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If it's about hygiene as you claim, how is an open wound on an infant's genitals not counter-productive? Would it be considered ethical if you used that excuse to nonconsensually touch and sever the prepuce from a healthy 30 year old person's genitals?
/r/MensRights04/05/22 03:32 AM
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ortho, cataract surgery, colonoscopies and upper endoscopies, those pay off Which of these are performed on healthy individuals without their informed consent?
/r/MensRights04/05/22 03:25 AM
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What are the reasons a healthy 30 year old person wouldn't be glad if you nonconsensually touched and severed the prepuce from their genitals, that couldn't be applied to you doing so in any of the 29 years prior?
/r/MensRights04/05/22 03:22 AM
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Usually driven by a misguided notion that women find natural anatomy ugly.
/r/MensRights03/05/22 08:17 PM
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You're dodging a very simple question, would a healthy 30 year old person be glad if you nonconsensually touched and severed the prepuce from their genitals?
/r/MensRights03/05/22 08:04 PM
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Then put it to the test, (typical no. of males delivered and cut in a month) x (typical insurance reimbursement for cutting) = ? How would a typical hospital's income and budget be affected if they reduced the number of males cut by 50%, 80%, or 100%?
/r/MensRights03/05/22 08:03 PM
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I didn't ask about cataract surgery, how many males are delivered and cut in a month at a typical hospital?
/r/MensRights03/05/22 07:35 PM
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Would a healthy 30 year old person be glad if you nonconsensually touched and severed the prepuce from their genitals?
/r/MensRights03/05/22 07:32 PM
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How many males are typically delivered in a month?
/r/MensRights03/05/22 06:14 PM
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Hundreds or thousands per baby isn't lucrative? https://www.9news.com/article/news/investigations/medical-cost/mom-charged-more-than-1k-for-her-newborns-circumcision-theres-just-one-problem/73-532898670
/r/MensRights03/05/22 05:30 PM
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There wouldn't be a demand for cutting if the doctors didn't offer it or downplay the harms to the parents who then parrot the shoddy excuses and rationalizations. To suggest they don't bear a majority of the blame is naive at best.
/r/MensRights03/05/22 04:05 PM
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There's an inherent conflict of interest when those examining the few lawsuits that do go to trial are all practicing healthcare professionals "we investigated ourselves and determined..." https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/2021/09/23/west-palm-ob-gyn-malpractice-lawsuits-moms-babies-died-circumcisions-botched-doctor-kept-practicing/5524867001/
/r/MensRights03/05/22 03:47 PM
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Why are you pretending as if condoms and PrEP don't exist?
/r/MensRights03/05/22 03:36 PM
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Removing the prepuce isn't a benefit when you ignore the complications it causes and the rarity of things it allegedly reduces the chances of, which already have effective non-invasive interventions. How's that different from performing orchiectomy on a healthy non-consenting individual and claiming after the fact that you reduced their chance of testicular torsion or cancer?
/r/MensRights03/05/22 03:23 PM
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In a highly litigious society that operates under a for profit healthcare scheme, what do you think is more likely to be true about one of the most common and lucrative procedures it performs, that serious complications including death are rare, or that they're underreported and misattributed to things other than cutting?
/r/MensRights03/05/22 03:16 PM
1

You consent to existence by staying alive, you're not as clever as you think you are.
/r/MensRights03/05/22 07:50 AM
1

How lucky that your doctor predicted you would want to be with shallow and toxic women who have a scarification fetish. Many aren't, especially if they wound up with complications from cutting including keloids, meatal stenosis/urethral stricturing, glans dehiscence, peyronie's disease, or amputation.
/r/MensRights03/05/22 07:45 AM
1

Would it be considered wrong for someone to nonconsensually touch and sever the prepuce from a healthy 30 year old person's genitals?
/r/MensRights03/05/22 07:40 AM
1

How is having one's genitals cut in a nonsterile environment and doing genital wound care not counterproductive?
/r/MensRights03/05/22 07:38 AM
1

What's bad about unneccisarily touching and cutting a healthy nonconsenting 30 year old's person's genitals that couldn't be applied to this situation?
/r/MensRights03/05/22 07:35 AM
1

What frame of reference are you using to say there are no problems at all when you had your prepuce removed before you even started puberty?
/r/MensRights03/05/22 07:32 AM
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Would there be negative side effects if you nonconsensually touched and severed the prepuce from a healthy 30 year old person's genitals?
/r/MensRights03/05/22 07:30 AM
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It shouldn't have to be spelled out that they weren't referring to rare situations like yours of males born with defective anatomy that couldn't respond normal treatment or prevention.
/r/MensRights03/05/22 07:29 AM
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The more homologous practice is cliltoral hood ablation.
/r/MensRights03/05/22 07:27 AM
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By your standard, any anatomy cut from a girl's genitals wasn't vital?
/r/MensRights03/05/22 07:24 AM
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Good on you for trusting your instincts and protecting your son, too many are misled buy incompetent/unethical doctors concerning this and other 'elective' procedures.
/r/MensRights02/05/22 11:02 PM
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Would a healthy 30 year old person notice a difference in sensation if you nonconsensually touched and severed the prepuce from their genitals?
/r/MensRights01/05/22 01:27 AM
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There's no way you got a high a tight circumcision, had your frenulum severed, went through 12 years of keratinization and not notice a difference in sensation, you're only deluding yourself and other males cut at birth who don't know any better.
/r/MensRights30/04/22 11:00 PM
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Why post a zoomed shot of a low quality photo you uploaded a year ago, when you clearly have a smartphone and could have just taken a new one?
/r/MensRights30/04/22 05:08 PM
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I only hate those who lie about the circumstances in which they were cut as a means of tricking others into believing it's okay to nonconsensually touch and cut healthy children's genitals. I kept my foreskin pulled back until I was in college and xpios get cut. Why would a person who claims sex was good, intentionally force their prepuce to be retracted? RIC does not leave stitch marks you moron. They don't use stitches at all for RIC. And I know there are no stich marks from infant cutting, be…
/r/MensRights30/04/22 11:27 AM
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circumcision makes so the bacterias as STI's and many more doesn't get stuck in between the prepuce and the penis, Babies aren't born in charge of their own hygiene and aren't having unprotected sex with infected partners. What you're suggesting is an immoral way to achieve those objectives since there already exist effective non-invasive methods when the individual reaches an appropriate age, and especially since you're ignoring the complications of removing healthy functional anatomy, which in…
/r/MensRights30/04/22 10:38 AM
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There's no way you were cut as an adult with that level of keratinization on your glans and shaft tissue above the scar, I'm guessing your frenulum is completely gone as well.
/r/MensRights30/04/22 06:06 AM
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one is a hygiene practice that prevents from many diseases If you say it's necessary what chronic, fatal, soap/water resistant, disease or infection causing bacteria lie only on the surface of male prepuce anatomy and are only treatable or preventable by severing it from a healthy person's genitals? it would be a nonsense to introduce a comparison I made this comparison to show you How convenient, when others make comparisons it's nonsense, but not when you do it.
/r/MensRights30/04/22 05:50 AM
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Which of those studies controlled for confounding factors such as size, morphology of the genitalia, or copulation duration/frequency?
/r/MensRights30/04/22 01:04 AM
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When your parents showered you when you were young, didn't they touch your genitals Here you attempted to conflate necessary hygiene for a person who's unable to do so for themselves with unnecessary genital contact, it's only when I called out your shoddy logic in doing so that you made your senseless accusations and feigned confusion.
/r/MensRights30/04/22 12:57 AM
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Why should you be confused? There's no time limit on when you should respond so to make careless mistakes in reading so you have a pretext to make false accusations is unnecessary.
/r/MensRights29/04/22 08:06 PM
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If you had a normal functioning prepuce how would it be possible that your sensation wasn't altered after having it removed?
/r/MensRights29/04/22 05:42 PM
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You made the accusation that I brought up female circumcision, so for the 3rd time highlight where in the previous posts I mention it.
/r/MensRights28/04/22 09:42 PM
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Running out of excuses so you're reverting to gaslighting now? Quote where I bring up female cutting in any form.
/r/MensRights28/04/22 08:46 PM
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No kidding, if you nonconsensually try to touch and cut a healthy adult's genitals it would be risky.
/r/MensRights28/04/22 06:21 PM
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To all the assholes out there comparing it to FGM, watch a video. They aren’t even close. Imagine if you were 5 years old and without anesthesia, they skinned your whole cock. You should rather acknowledge your privilege in not having your genitals unnecessarily fondled and altered instead of using the suffering of girls and women in foreign countries as an emotional cudgel, pretending as if males aren't also being cut within those borders.
/r/MensRights28/04/22 06:18 PM
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Would it be considered a harm if you nonconsensually touched and severed the prepuce from a healthy 30 year old person's genitals?
/r/MensRights28/04/22 06:11 PM
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No more cringe then unneccisarily and nonconsensually touching and cutting functional anatomy from a healthy person's genitals.
/r/MensRights28/04/22 06:04 PM
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Why should anyone uplift abuse?
/r/MensRights28/04/22 05:59 PM
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When did I bring up female circumcision?
/r/MensRights28/04/22 03:05 PM
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Are you saying there's no difference between a parent insisting showering an infant girl and insisting on showering a 13 year old girl's genitals? Larry Nassar proves that being an abuser and a doctor aren't mutually exclusive.
/r/MensRights28/04/22 04:13 AM
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Unnecessarily touching and cutting functional anatomy from a healthy non-consenting personal's genitals and the consequences from that loss counts as something gone wrong. But you can reduce the chances to less than the occurence of complications due to leaving the foreskin intact Real statistics don't support your claim. In places like Copenhagen, only 53 out of 200,000 males under the age of 18 needed genital surgery in a given year. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/17441692.2016.11…
/r/MensRights28/04/22 04:08 AM
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If you're saying it wouldn't be considered harmful if you nonconsensually touched and severed the prepuce from even a healthy 13 year old person's genitals then that speaks to sociopathy on your part.
/r/MensRights28/04/22 01:49 AM
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The entire reason any of that is the result is because, as you say, people are already doing it outside of hospitals, and not by people who know what they are doing. Everything I listed are the baseline complications whether a healthy person is cut inside of a hospital or not. And considering it can't be guaranteed that 'people who know what they're doing' won't make mistakes leading to serious ones like peyronie's disease, iatrogenic hypospadias, fistula, cicatrix, glans dehiscence, subincison …
/r/MensRights28/04/22 01:20 AM
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Assuming 18 is when a person is no longer a parental responsibility, are you suggesting that it wouldn't be considered harmful if you nonconsensually touched and severed the prepuce from a healthy 17 year old person's genitals?
/r/MensRights27/04/22 10:38 PM
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Restricting nontherapeutic forced genital cutting performed in hospital/secular settings wouldn't affect brit milah/peria or metzitzah b'peh.
/r/MensRights27/04/22 10:29 PM
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Speaking out is about bringing awareness and protecting the bodily autonomy for those who can't speak for themselves, especially those who think they don't deserve anything more than the mere ability to urinate and ejaculate.
/r/MensRights27/04/22 10:21 PM
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Buddy, as long as it's done by an actual pediatric surgeon, in a proper medical facility, the complications are nearly non existent Scarring, keratinization, partially severed innervated tissue, growth hormone receptors and blood vessels, and varying degrees of meatal stenosis is a complication that occurs in all cases of neonatal cutting. All this push to ban circumcision is what's going to cause more incidents, by forcing people to go outside the proper channels to get it done. Those who have …
/r/MensRights27/04/22 10:03 PM
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If you admit that it would be harmful without consent, then between birth and 30, at what age would it start being considered harmful if you nonconsensually touched and severed the prepuce from a healthy person's genitals?
/r/MensRights27/04/22 09:47 PM
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Nonconsensually touching and cutting functional anatomy from a healthy person's genitals isn't a benefit when there are already effective non-invasive methods for treatment and prevention, and especially when you ignore the far more serious complications it can cause.
/r/MensRights27/04/22 09:30 PM
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Did the doctor cut your son's genitals for free?
/r/MensRights27/04/22 06:08 PM
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Ultimately the rare incidence of preputial pearls doesn't change the overall point. Discussions like these reveal the need of spreading awareness of intact care that prevent people like you from being taken advantage of by incompetent and or unethical HCP's who perform unnecessary procedures for an issue that resolve on their own or with effective non-invasive methods.
/r/MensRights27/04/22 05:57 PM
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That's a strong stigma to face as a 12 year old, how are you sure you weren't coerced into having your prepuce removed?
/r/MensRights27/04/22 04:43 PM
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Why did you ignore this paragraph? These collection of smegma are sometimes mistaken for abnormal growth by parents and medical practitioners requiring surgical excision, which is really not necessary. [4] Sometimes these collections of smegma start coming out through the preputial opening as white sticky material, which some mistake for purulent material coming through the urethra due to a urinary tract infection. However, in both above mentioned conditions all that needs to be done is reassura…
/r/MensRights27/04/22 04:41 PM
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Would it be considered abuse if you nonconsensually touched and severed the prepuce from a healthy 30 year old person's genitals?
/r/MensRights27/04/22 10:37 AM
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How are those who refuse to get cut treated in your culture?
/r/MensRights27/04/22 10:35 AM
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Would it be considered harmful if you nonconsensually touched and severed the prepuce from a healthy 30 year old person's genitals?
/r/MensRights27/04/22 03:21 AM
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At what age did you choose to have your prepuce removed?
/r/MensRights27/04/22 03:20 AM
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Would a healthy 30 year old person be glad if someone nonconsensually touched and severed the prepuce from their genitals?
/r/MensRights27/04/22 03:20 AM
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If you admit that the problem was his poor hygiene habits, why are you making it seem as if it was his prepuce itself?
/r/MensRights27/04/22 03:06 AM
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Then it means you watched the doctor prematurely retract your son and misdiagnose the preputial adhesions as smegma.
/r/MensRights27/04/22 03:01 AM
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You said you "watched the doctor pull off tons and tons of smegma…", how did the doctor get to the smegma without the prepuce being prematurely retracted first?
/r/MensRights27/04/22 02:53 AM
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So you admit to prematurely retracting the prepuce and exposing your son's glans?
/r/MensRights27/04/22 02:44 AM
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This goes back earlier to the point about making the exceptions the rule, there are many factors that could have contributed to your step brother being inconvenienced by not being able to urinate on bushes without irritation, being prematurely retraction from incompetent care, being allergic to a certain pollen or some contaminant from things he picked up/handed while outdoors, or he could have been born premature with a compromised immune system.
/r/MensRights27/04/22 02:42 AM
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What compels you to lie about being cut as an adult when you were really cut at birth?
/r/MensRights27/04/22 02:21 AM
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Was your step-brother ever forcibly retracted beyond the glans growing up?
/r/MensRights27/04/22 02:19 AM
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Then how did the doctor identify that there was buildup?
/r/MensRights27/04/22 02:15 AM
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I thought you said your baby's prepuce wasn't retractable?
/r/MensRights27/04/22 01:56 AM
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The build up of oils and sweat that facilitate comfortable movement of tissue genital tissue in both male and female anatomy is a secondary sex characteristic that doesn't start production until puberty, same as the hair and sweat glands in the underarm and groin areas. https://www.healthline.com/health/how-to-get-rid-of-smegma
/r/MensRights27/04/22 01:21 AM
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What made your step father decide to leave your step brother intact?
/r/MensRights27/04/22 01:01 AM
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Why did your parents leave your brother intact?
/r/MensRights26/04/22 11:20 PM
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70% of the world's males are intact, are you suggesting that all of their partners are gagging, and that the partners of cut males never gag?
/r/MensRights26/04/22 09:54 PM
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Are you seriously saying to me, that what I did was the same thing as sexually abusing my own daughter? Did you have her vaccines administered via her vulva? This is a delirious attempt at a gotcha.
/r/MensRights26/04/22 09:23 PM
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I had my daughter vaccinated when she was a baby. She couldn't "consent"...she was too young. I made that decision on her behalf, because I believed it was the best thing for her health and wellbeing. If you're invoking vaccination, what chronic, fatal, infectious diseases are males regularly born with or suffering from and only treatable or preventable by severing the ridged band, half of the shaft tissue, and frenulum from a healthy person's genitals?
/r/MensRights26/04/22 09:03 PM
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I'll take your repeated dodge attempts as a yes, it would be considered assault. Between birth and age 30, when does it start being considered assault if you nonconsensually touch and sever the prepuce from a healthy person's genitals?
/r/MensRights26/04/22 08:24 PM
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OP isn't saying to never use the word, they're rather calling out the use of a term describing therapeutic surgery and conflating it with unnecessary forced genital cutting.
/r/MensRights26/04/22 08:22 PM
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You're dodging a very simple question, would it be considered assault if you nonconsensually touched and severed the prepuce from a healthy 30 year old person's genitals?
/r/MensRights26/04/22 08:15 PM
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You were one of the rare few born with defective anatomy Where do you see that I called the poster defective?
/r/MensRights26/04/22 08:13 PM
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Would it be considered assault if you nonconsensually touched and severed the prepuce from a healthy 30 year old person's genitals?
/r/MensRights26/04/22 08:10 PM
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What was your glans coverage index level before surgery?
/r/MensRights26/04/22 08:09 PM
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What makes you think all women are as shallow and toxic as the ones you happened to be intimate with?
/r/MensRights26/04/22 07:57 PM
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It happened before they could remember and they were gaslit all of their life into believing that it was harmless and beneficial, to admit otherwise, that their parents allowed something like that to happen to the most intimate part of the anatomy is extremely difficult psychologically.
/r/MensRights26/04/22 07:54 PM
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You were one of the rare few born with defective anatomy that couldn't respond to normal prevention or treatment methods, it shouldn't have to be spelled out that the unnecessary, nonconsensual genital cutting that occurs in 99.99% of cases is what's being referred to.
/r/MensRights26/04/22 07:51 PM
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I didn’t say it was an excuse to cut 99.9%. Said nothing of the sort my point was merely that blanket statements condemning people or actions are bad. It shouldn't have to be spelled out that unnecessarily touching and cutting functional anatomy from a healthy person's genitals without their informed consent is what's being referred to in these discussions. ​ What treatments mind you? What cleaning are you supposed to do at birth? If his foreskin doesn’t retract to clean what do you do? Force it…
/r/MensRights26/04/22 06:04 PM
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Between birth and 18, when does it stop making sense?
/r/MensRights26/04/22 05:33 PM
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Your boy was one of the rare few born with defective anatomy that couldn't respond to normal prevention or treatment methods, how is that an excuse for cutting 99.99% of males without a valid diagnosis?
/r/MensRights26/04/22 05:31 PM
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How did having your prepuce removed improve your life?
/r/MensRights26/04/22 05:28 PM
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Would a healthy 30 year old person say there were downsides if you nonconsensually touched and severed the prepuce from their genitals?
/r/MensRights26/04/22 05:28 PM
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What symptoms were you having before surgery?
/r/MensRights26/04/22 05:22 PM
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Did you bother to read which countries were listed? The vast majority are from genital cutting cultures, talk about sampling bias.
/r/MensRights26/04/22 05:21 PM
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If you say there are medical benefits, what chronic, fatal, infectious diseases are males regularly born with or suffering from & only treatable or preventable by severing the ridged band, shaft tissue and frenulum from a healthy person's genitals?
/r/MensRights26/04/22 05:15 PM
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You were one of the rare few born with defective anatomy that couldn't respond to normal prevention or treatment methods, this isn't about cases like yours but rather protecting the 99.99% who are cut without a valid diagnosis.
/r/MensRights26/04/22 05:12 PM
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What factors would make unnecessary, nonconsensual touching and cutting involving a healthy person's genitals unethical at age 18 that couldn't be applied at age 17?
/r/MensRights06/04/22 11:50 PM
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Unnecessary, nonconsensual touching and cutting involving a healthy person's genitals is unethical at age 30, if you don't have a solid answer explaining when that changes in the 29 years prior, then it's you that's overcomplicating things.
/r/MensRights06/04/22 10:52 PM
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What's funny about those complications?
/r/MensRights06/04/22 09:58 PM
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Nobodies nonconsensually cutting off the foreskins of adults. I understand the comparison is because an infant cannot consent. And it just doesn't fit imo. Between infancy and age 30, at what age would it no longer be considered ethical for you to nonconsensually touch and sever the prepuce from a healthy person's genitals? ​ And yes, restoring the foreskin is as easy as that. You can also simply restretch it. There's a whole community devoted to doing that very thing. If you had your precious s…
/r/MensRights06/04/22 09:05 PM
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​ ​ But as for metrics in favor of circumcision, which is just cutting the foreskin off, it revolves around lower rates of bladder infection, prostate cancer, and most importantly, catching communicable STI diseases. Sensitivity studies also show little to no decrease. Which of these would be considered ethical reasons for you to nonconsensually touch and sever the prepuce from a healthy 30 year old person's genitals? ​ I actually once cared enough about this that I created an artificial foreski…
/r/MensRights06/04/22 07:08 PM
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What metrics are you using in determining there would be no downsides if you nonconsensually touched and severed the prepuce from a healthy 30 year old person's genitals?
/r/MensRights06/04/22 06:45 PM
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What chronic, fatal, infectious diseases are males regularly born with or suffering from & only treatable or preventable by severing the ridged band, shaft tissue and frenulum from a healthy person's genitals?
/r/MensRights06/04/22 06:31 PM
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Would a healthy 30 year old consider it a health benefit if you nonconsensually touched and severed the prepuce from their genitals?
/r/MensRights06/04/22 06:00 PM
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Plus, as a circumcized dude, idk how to clean that nasty shit Interesting that you felt disgusted by a person you helped create. The fact that you could learn to do genital wound care but couldn't learn how to take care of your baby until he was old enough to be taught how speaks to confirmation bias, as incompetent as the tech may have been this was what you planned all along.
/r/MensRights06/04/22 05:38 PM
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They make pants without zippers.
/r/MensRights06/04/22 05:04 PM
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What symptoms were you having before surgery?
/r/MensRights06/04/22 04:57 PM
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Shocking, the person who has a financial incentive to unnecessarily touch and cut healthy nonconsenting children's genitals recommended it?
/r/MensRights06/04/22 04:53 PM
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What's stopping you from having your prepuce removed now?
/r/MensRights02/03/22 03:16 PM
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Would it negatively affect a healthy 30 year old if you nonconsensually touched and severed the prepuce from their genitals?
/r/MensRights02/03/22 03:10 PM
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King reported a period when 500,000 consecutive circumcisions were performed in New York city without a single fatality [17]. A claim from a 1982 article with less than 4 citations since: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7176044/
/r/MensRights10/12/21 08:32 PM
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But the surgeon has no interest in promoting the procedure! None. Zero. The procedure is not advertised, it’s not pushed by anyone except the mothers. Absolutely no interest: https://www.pollockclinics.com/circumcision/fees/ https://gentleproceduresdallas.com/circumcision/ The $2000 is peanuts to the hospitals lol. It’s not a high volume thing, and the $2000 is not high profit either. Many are not reimbursed at that rate either. And the expenses the hospital incurs probably gobble up most of tha…
/r/MensRights10/12/21 07:29 PM
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If you're making the claim that deaths from neonatal cutting are rare then the onus is on you to provide current peer reviewed literature, not wikipedia citations from 1976 of 5000 boys over a 10 year period.
/r/MensRights10/12/21 07:04 PM
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The hospital is a business, why would they go through the effort of purchasing multiple gomco clamps, plastibels and cirucmstraints for them not to be used regularly? Even if they're not being explicitly told to push for cutting, which surgeon is more valuable to their bottom line, the one who cuts 50 babies at $2000 each, or the one who cuts none?
/r/MensRights10/12/21 06:53 PM
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Neonatal Circumcision: A Ten-Year Overview: With Comparison of the Gomco Clamp and the Plastibell Device William F. Gee; Julian S. Ansell Pediatrics (1976) 58 (6): 824–827. What recent study do you have?
/r/MensRights10/12/21 03:42 PM
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Why are you pretending as if I said the surgeon is the only one who makes money from cutting?
/r/MensRights10/12/21 03:26 PM
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How is an average of $2,000 per baby not lucrative? https://www.mdsave.com/procedures/pediatric-circumcision/d78afeca
/r/MensRights09/12/21 08:09 PM
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Would a healthy 30 year old consider it a medical benefit if you nonconsensually touched and severed the prepuce from their genitals?
/r/MensRights09/12/21 03:31 PM
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In a for profit healthcare system, what do you think is most likely to be true about one of the most common and lucrative procedures, that deaths from it are rare, or that they're underreported?
/r/MensRights09/12/21 03:28 PM
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Would it be considered a major harm if you nonconsensually touched and severed the prepuce from a healthy 30 year old person's genitals?
/r/MensRights09/12/21 03:25 PM
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Preventative surgery of healthy functional anatomy should be a choice made by the person with informed consent who has to live with the effects of it. Just as it'd be inappropriate to force teenage girls to undergo mastectomies to prevent breast cancer.
/r/MensRights29/05/19 03:52 PM
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All you've listed are bunch of things that are treated or preventable non invasively, or make unjustifiable assumptions that the child will grow up to completely disregard their penile health and hygiene, or engage in unprotected sex with multiple infected partners. If there's no medical emergency, why the urgency to perform circumcision at infancy?
/r/MensRights28/05/19 01:51 PM
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An intact baby's glans is fused like a fingernail at birth, imagine someone taking an instrument and scraping under that, cutting the penile frenulum(similar to that thin muscle that connects your gums to your lips), ridged band(penile sphincter), and large portions of outer skin tissue often without anesthesia or any pain medicine afterwards.
/r/MensRights23/05/19 01:12 PM
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The penis is supposed to be inside a mucus membrane. Smegma is a harmless accumulation of oils that keep the glans in its natural smooth state, cleaning it off is no more complicated than wiping crust from your eyelid.
/r/MensRights23/05/19 01:02 PM
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What's healthy about painfully cutting the healthy functional penile mucosa, frenulum, ridged band, and large portions of outer skin tissue from an infant child's penis?
/r/MensRights23/05/19 12:49 PM
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Circumcision didn't start out as a medical procedure.
/r/MensRights23/05/19 12:46 PM
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If there was enough water to drink, and women somehow got by without cutting major parts of their genitals, I question the narrative of circumcision springing up due to water scarcity. Wouldn't it have made more sense to migrate to areas with better access to water, rather than cutting parts of the penis, and risking massive infection and blood loss, and later deciding babies and children should be cut as well?
/r/MensRights23/05/19 12:40 PM
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This post is especially important in these downward economic times where many young adults are still at home or having to move back and stay sometimes well into their 30s. Their career and financial goals deferred due to machinations and manipulations of the so called "Greatest" generation. Stagnant wages, unemployment, crippling student loan debt, out of control tuition rates, a shitty housing market where most can barely afford rent let alone dream of buying a house. On the blue collar side a …
/r/TheRedPill09/01/16 04:02 AM
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funny you would choose a book analogy, when in essence youre now someone whose purposed to read a book youve only glanced the cover and jacket of and is already in someones hands
/r/seduction04/05/11 04:31 PM
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Wow, your attitude is jacked. if youre too alpha for most of the advice on seddit, good for you bro, but one of the best ways to become more profficient at a discipline is to teach and pass your knowledge to others. Thats what makes this forum work, students who at time become teachers,teachers who sit down for a minute to be taught as students, discussing topics of all levels. But if youre only consuming, you lose your situational and observational awareness, so you get lost in thoughts of "oh …
/r/seduction04/05/11 03:41 PM
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It may sound great in theory, but in practice it usually comes off as a weak attempt at regaining the psycological advantage which is an indicator of low confidence, not unlike saying "youre not my type anyway" and things like that which does the opposite of what you intended and ends up validating their poor behavior. the principle of "never explain, never complain" applies. youre out doing your thing and having fun, by letting whoever know theyre not even worth you going out of your way for a …
/r/seduction22/03/11 04:20 PM
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you said in the beginning that your objective was to dance and socialize, from what I read you had no problem accomplishing both at various points, even after the blowout. the key is mentally locking down a purpose for being out besides women, so any situation or person that attempts to hinder you, you recognize as not even being part of the plan and keep it moving
/r/seduction22/03/11 02:49 PM
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that last phrase is actually a golden set up HB: I hope to see/meet/bump into you again! (notice she could have just said bye!) Knock 'em dead with this: Hey you know what, this is too nice to leave to chance. and pull out your phone for the #close
/r/seduction22/03/11 02:55 AM
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