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you do realize how incredibly arrogant it is to assume you know people's mind better than themselves? I didn't. Red pill guys do this. They tell women they are lying to and about themselves, whereas men are completely self-aware (lol). You said it was a need. It isn't. Food, water, air, shelter are needs. Sex isn't. nonetheless this is the internal thought process of many men And those men need to work on themselves and be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 02:00 PM
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This comment just shows why talking to red pill guys is so difficult. How on earth did you come to this conclusion? How did you get any of this from the post? The point of the post is that women will have sex with men they want to have sex with. As another commenter mentioned, sex often drops off a few years into a relationship. So make the woman want you. Be romantic. Be good in bed. Actually give a shit about her. A man who has "settled into" a relationship shifts his focus onto his hobbies an…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 01:42 PM
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Great, now you know how most women feel all the time in hetero relationships. Behave accordingly in your next one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 01:26 PM
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It's not nearly as fun for these guys to condescend to another dude
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 01:25 PM
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Men have all those same threats as well Top kek. Fast forward to the point where both of your clothes are off in the bedroom. You now are 100% sure she isn't concealing a weapon. Now it's just a woman and a man. You still have no risk of pregnancy, much less risk of STDs, a much better shot at actually having an enjoyable experience, a nearly guaranteed orgasm (while she's unlikely to have one unless you give a shit about her), and you're still a man with testosterone and all the physical advant…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 01:22 PM
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Sex isn't a need. It's a want. Stop being so hysterical.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 01:19 PM
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Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 12:55 PM
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I agree with the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 01:47 PM
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Because red pill is a toxic and evil ideology
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 12:46 PM
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Being used for sex is absolutely an issue of safety when you can contract an STD or get pregnant from it, or when you never know whether the man you’re sleeping with has a fetish for beating the shit out of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 10:51 PM
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Yeah, he got a girlfriend. I’m not saying he is incapable of getting laid or even into a relationship. He didn’t get it with me though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 06:28 PM
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I’ve talked about it with other females. They always say these guys need to up their hygiene and their personality and get in shape if they aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 03:17 PM
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Most females also give this advice to incels sooooo
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 02:51 PM
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Can confirm. I even give that advice to myself and I haven’t listened.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 02:49 PM
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I’ll let you know when I make one (:
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 02:38 PM
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I'm a girl, he was hot AF. Great jaw, dark features, amazing hair. But the way he talked was GROSS and his manifesto just dripped with entitlement. These things are not easy to hide when you spend that much time ruminating on your entitlement, and I'm sure women picked up on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 02:06 PM
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Red piller bragging about cheating on his wife? I got bingo!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 02:03 PM
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men are supposed to get what they want all the time Ding ding ding! Although after spending some time on this sub, I'd change it to I am supposed to get what I want all the time because of their cold disregard for less successful men and "me me me" tone when discussing how the philosophy works for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 02:02 PM
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It takes red pill to tell men to go to the gym, spend proper money on new clothes and a haircut, get their teeth fixed...improve their looks Am I on crack cocaine or is this the first advice incels always get? To the point they actively mock it on their subreddit because they don't believe it works?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 02:01 PM
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Girls are encouraged not to have sex with a guy right away to avoid red pill and other low value guys who will use them and disappear. Then she risks STDs, pregnancy, and of course feeling horrible and used for really nothing—first time sex is usually not great and her chances of orgasming or even enjoying herself are very low. If she's looking for a relationship, she should save sex for a relationship (at least). That's a very easy way to weed out guys who are only interested in sex. If you don…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:59 PM
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No it wasn't. That's what you changed the topic to because you are having trouble thinking outside the red pill framework. Being used/abused for sex or dumped in a ditch are issues of safety. Red pill men focus on tingles and how their penis feels. The rest of us have a lot more to think and worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:31 PM
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Okay, then we are in complete agreement, and consider me a supporter.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:30 PM
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Dale Carnegie advocates for highly manipulative techniques and makes no bones about it. Many of the examples in his book are clearly designed to get something out of someone—getting an old lady to give you her car was one example I remember being particularly transparent about the material gain element of his techniques. That said, his techniques work BECAUSE they make other people feel good. At least there is some good in that. As long as you only use them to get your foot in the door to a frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:29 PM
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Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 12:42 PM
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Sounds like settling. She wants both, she can have both. There are SO. MANY. people out there. There are plenty of very smartly-dressed, well-groomed conservative dudes. Those guys have a fetish for beard oil and suits, I swear.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 12:33 PM
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Personally my boyfriend grooms basically as much as I do. I never understood the double standard with body hair. I'm not shallow, so I have grown to love the body hair he chooses to keep, but I am glad he shaves and grooms some of it. I put in a lot of effort to be smooth as a natural Sasquatch lady, and it's nice to see that reciprocated.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 12:32 PM
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Was this written by a red piller LARPing as a feminist? What a despicable way to describe human beings. Men can't help being bald, and depending on where the hair is growing, it can be extremely time-consuming and then uncomfortable to shave if you're hairy. Maybe they actually love these men for who they are and how they treat them. Maybe these men have a great sense of humor, are really romantic, or have really well-developed fatherly instinct. You're acting as though these ladies settled for …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 12:29 PM
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In a way, I get this. Feeling like an object of desire is more important to me than being with an object of desire, if I'm honest. Probably not a great thing as it is rather egocentric.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 12:26 PM
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Yes I was agreeing with you. I did say what you said. Don't try to tell me black is white. Here's the comment. TRP maybe won't work in the long run Common ground but at least that will work better than the void you and so many people like you are offering them This "void" only exists to certain men. If all you want out of women is sex and domestic services, and you despise them otherwise, as so many red pill men do, then yes, there is a "void" because women are about so much more than that. This…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 12:21 PM
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Excellent comment; exactly what I was getting at but much better worded.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 12:12 PM
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If you're truly a red pill man, you believe in creating avoidant attachment within her to get what you want. That is abusive, and as far as I'm concerned, engaging in abusive behavior makes you a bad person. Most people will leave an abusive partner at some point. Since you're not hitting her, it might take her longer to realize how much of a drain you are on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 12:11 PM
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of their own making Lol as if. If you think women don't have genuine terrible experiences with men that are entirely the man's fault, you've entirely separated from reality and there's nothing I can do to save you. FDS isn't nearly as harmful as rabid feminism in my opinion. FDS is a very passive version of TRP for women. It isn't about female supremacy and it isn't about grouping all men into some inferior category. It isn't about teaching each other how to harm men. It's just about avoiding gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 12:10 PM
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So do you think women are responsible for taking care of these men's issues because they are better in cooperative environments?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 12:05 PM
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I'm not talking about "tingles." I'm not talking about your narrative at all. I'm talking about reality. These "gut feelings" are about safety, not sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 12:04 PM
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I get that a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 12:04 PM
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Part of living a happy life is accepting mediocrity. None of us are "different." Even prodigies are usually miserable and mentally unwell. Mediocrity isn't a bad thing in and of itself. There are 1000 little joys each day if you practice gratitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 02:18 AM
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If you're a red piller, why are you worried? When she gets wise, you'll just leave her. I mean, the only reason you wouldn't is if you were worried about losing assets in the divorce, but since you're a red piller I'm sure you've got a pre-nup. Just keep doing what you're doing and you'll be fine; your philosophy has got you covered for every circumstance! You have all the power and leverage, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 02:11 AM
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Yes, exactly. Generalizing 50% of the population is just not the best way to go. You can go that way, and maybe you'll feel better about yourself for a bit. But eventually you'll have to grow up and understand that life is very nuanced and you need a better strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 02:10 AM
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I don't need to tell her. She will figure it out for herself in time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 02:05 AM
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You just restated what I said. I'm in agreement with you. TRP is a way to attempt to fill a hole. It won't work in the long run. Sleeping with a few people is not an achievement. I'm not straw manning. There are so many people on this sub who have no clue about the definitions of these fallacies and just throw words around to sound smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 02:05 AM
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It isn't. Generalization is really what causes all this. We are all looking at personal experiences. Men who have bad experiences with women turn to TRP. Women who have bad experiences with men turn to rabid feminism. You take your narrow little slit of reality and assume everything is the way you experience it. You tell others their experiences aren't real because they don't match yours. I have yet to see a convincing study that is really academically rigorous on either side. There aren't becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 02:03 AM
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Speak for yourself. I'm very happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 02:00 AM
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Sad but true. I know of a couple women who are advocates for men's issues but one or two isn't going to cut it. I do have a question, though. When you go to domestic violence resources, women's health advocates, etc. a lot of the people working there are women themselves trying to help other women. How come men aren't trying to help each other in a similar fashion?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:57 AM
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IKR I think the entire point is that we do not want what your definition of "man" is
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:51 AM
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Literally this. Any amount of normal self-esteem and standards kills TRP. These guys are not teaching their recruits to lock women in the basement and rape them. They're teaching them to take advantage of known mental flaws women develop as a result of the way they are socialized. They call it "evolutionary psychology," but of course there's nothing biological about it whatsoever. Raise your daughters better and TRP can be a distant memory we can all laugh at in the next generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:51 AM
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He has no clue what these women feel and he doesn't care. TRP is explicitly about ignoring the other person's happiness. Unfortunately, you can't truly be happy yourself when you're living so selfishly and treating other people so poorly. I mean, do these guys think women who poke holes in condoms to trap rich dudes are happy? Of course not. That's why they spend all this time online bragging about how happy and successful they are. They're trying to convince themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:49 AM
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In conclusion, get off the gd internet and avoid others who spend too much time there. It will poison your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:47 AM
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I'm not sure this is necessary. No offense, but your friend sounds a little dumb and naive. Most girls ARE taught from an early age that men will lie to them for sex and overall treat them like garbage, and that's if they're lucky and don't get dumped in a ditch because it's some weirdo's fetish. You're giving red pill techniques waaaay too much credit. They aren't subtle and they don't work on women who are self-confident and are looking for an LTR. I personally wouldn't want to fill my daughte…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:45 AM
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Of course, right, yes. Tell me more about my own life when you've never met me or my boyfriend and have no clue about the world. Please do. Do you charge for your insight?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:35 AM
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It wasn't off tangent. You made an assumption about me and hinged your argument on it. I corrected that assumption. That's not a non sequitur, that's basic rhetoric. Time to dust off the old logic book!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:33 AM
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No one should be paying anything to the government but that's a conversation for another day
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:32 AM
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Trust me, you're doing every woman alive a HUGE favor by removing yourself from the dating pool. Goodbye now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:32 AM
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Whatever. If my man wasn't agreeable, supportive, and empathetic, I wouldn't be with him, but you know much more about these things and all that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:31 AM
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Spot on
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:31 AM
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I'm not a feminist. Yes, I understand that TRP is all about trying to "get yours" and be as selfish as possible. Have fun with that. It won't be worth it in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:31 AM
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That's...not what a non sequitur is. If you're going to try to use fallacies, at least know what they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 08:47 PM
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Masculinity can't be agreeable, supportive, and empathetic? Emotionally inclined women are desirable?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 08:46 PM
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Well said
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 08:28 PM
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Where did I say it didn't go the other way?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 08:27 PM
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If they want to go their own way, then go their own way. No need to rant about how much they hate women or advocate for removing women's rights. I couldn't care less what these guys do as long as it doesn't affect anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 08:17 PM
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Anecdotally, I have found men both much more emotional and emotive than women. But I have had unusual circles of people around me so that's just one person's experience. I am considerably more emotive than my boyfriend, and I would also say more emotional. That's the only exception that I have personally witnessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 08:16 PM
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What are "feminine traits" that women are forgoing?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 08:12 PM
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Yeah, red pill hinges on telling women they are either lying or don't know themselves, which is a great reason to dismiss it immediately because no other philosophy gets away with that kind of irrational bullshit. It's fun to debate, but once the screen is off, this philosophy is so inconsequential because it's so blatantly false. Just men trying to help themselves sleep at night instead of putting in the work to actually become a better person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 08:09 PM
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which is why most men actually love their SO's lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 08:07 PM
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Most red pill guys say women are extremely simple and easy to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 08:06 PM
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That last sentence is spot-on. They are so insistent that it works on the VAST MAJORITY of women. Gonna need a VERY rigorous and detailed study to prove that. It clearly only works on really messed-up women with low self-esteem. And there are plenty of those out there! But don't pretend like it would work on anyone well-adjusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 08:05 PM
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Ah yes, and here is an example of terrible dating advice from a man, right on schedule.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 08:03 PM
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both are demented
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 08:03 PM
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Mine is almost identical to yours, except I haven't helped anyone yet. I feel like this sub helps me appreciate my boyfriend so much more for not being batshit crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 08:01 PM
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Definitely would if I weren’t already taken!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 07:38 PM
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Small PP isn't necessarily a con
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 05:43 PM
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I don't think a MGTOW guy would want an egalitarian
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 05:43 PM
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I love this question. I agree with some of the other commenters that pros and cons largely depend on the person. I am going to categorize them according to my own belief system, and if someone disagrees feel free to say so! Pros: A technical virgin (I've done BJs and such but never had PIV or anything too "serious") I love debating and engaging with ideas on most philosophical topics (hence why I'm here), so we can have a lot of interesting conversations I have a lot of different hobbies I'm int…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 05:40 PM
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How is Tomassi different? I've read some of his stuff and I don't see a difference.
/r/ExRedPill27/08/20 05:04 PM
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news is best on reddit lol Please don't use social media as a news source
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 05:02 PM
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That would be better suited to a billboard every 2 miles on the highway, honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 05:02 PM
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Perhaps that's just a mirror of reality though Most people I meet in real life are much more well-adjusted than the ones who spend their days writing paragraphs on this sub (myself included). It poisons your mind. Now some redpiller is going to tell me that no, it is reality, everyone is just really good at hiding it in person. Well in that case, they are REALLY good at hiding it and it makes no difference to me if the illusion is that convincing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 05:01 PM
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Was it an office party with other colleagues? no one liked the bitch he was referring to, she dragged the entire team down Sounds like a miserable, cliquey work environment with Michael Scott leading the way
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 05:00 PM
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I HATE Twitter. Character limit? No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 04:58 PM
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They didn't freak out Maybe I worded it wrong. They didn't seem emotionally upset, but they spent way too much time talking about it. Shapiro is known to hate hip hop and it is on the record Yes, but at least in my few years of listening to his podcast I haven't heard him go after a specific hip-hop song like he went after WAP. Walsh went after "Old Town Road," but in a much more lighthearted, "this song is stupid" way rather than "this song is ruining our culture" way, and he didn't dedicate an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 04:57 PM
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This is one of those comments that is so correct I would cross-stitch it on a pillow and sleep on it every night if I weren't so lazy and already in the middle of another massive cross-stitch
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 04:55 PM
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Also the fucking government would tax it up the wazoo like weed, which would be bad for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 04:22 PM
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I'm a follower of TDW and love Ben Shapiro and Matt Walsh with my whole heart. That said, him and his friends freaking tf out over a gd hip-hop song was insane. ESPECIALLY since, as you said, they barely have an issue with the WAY WORSE degenerate shit male hip-hop "artists" come up with, but suddenly a couple of girls are singing about being prostitutes and everyone loses their minds? Also they hate it when actors/musical artists talk politics, so why are they butting their noses into music all…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 04:20 PM
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As long as you say it while being a low N guy, most people I know wouldn't have a problem with it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 04:17 PM
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Most people here are just thinking with their feelings and personal hurt. I don't think any of us are particularly bright. Most of us just have a chip on our shoulder. Feminists and manosphere people are just identitarians. If a manosphere guy was born into a female body, he'd be a feminist, and vice versa. They are people that are obsessed with "getting theirs" and have no regard for the greater good.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 04:13 PM
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The United Methodist Church?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 04:11 PM
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Good for you, but you asked why someone might have Instagram. I'm not trying to convince you to get it. I use it mainly for memes. I still prefer Facebook with text updates for keeping up with other people's lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 04:10 PM
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You guys are overthinking it welcome to PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 03:42 PM
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I wish we could settle this once and for all. I would love to become a man for a few months just to run this experiment and put an end to the "it doesn't work" "yes it does" back and forth. You'd need to move all around the world so you don't have a sample size of just one type of woman from one culture. You'd need to be very average-looking, genetics-wise. In fact, you'd really need a bunch of different guys with different looks, personalities, and backgrounds. You'd need to take meticulous not…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 03:42 PM
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Nice worked great for my boyfriend. Narcissism and dark triad didn't work great for my ex. One anecdotal example, but an example nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 03:34 PM
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Fascinating theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 03:33 PM
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I've never technically asked a man out, but I took serious initiative in all my relationships just short of asking him out to make it crystal clear I was interested. I consider myself the pursuer in all my relationships even though the guys technically asked me out first. There's no risk to ask out a girl if she's already made it extremely clear that she likes you. We always split on the first few dates, and then once it becomes a relationship it becomes a situation of taking turns paying for st…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 03:30 PM
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How is commenting on a coworker's body in a sexual manner okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 03:22 PM
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No one needs sex. This is such a tired old whiney trope. You will not die without sex. You need water, food, air, shelter. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 03:13 PM
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Uh...keeping up with friends? Not everyone uses Instagram for porn
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 03:06 PM
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Yeah this seems like two different people. Men who hate Instagram whores don't follow them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 03:02 PM
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I’m saying sex isn’t worth it just casually for women. Just like a guy doesn’t want to commit to a woman with no hope of sex, most women don’t want to have risky painful sex with some random guy who hasn’t committed to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 12:46 PM
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I mean, I don’t blame them. Getting used for sex is messed up and no one deserves that. It’s a shame guys will do that to women but it’s a big part of reality. Everybody has to figure out how to avoid getting played and treated like garbage. TRP and FDS are crude attempts to strategize around this, but I personally find them too hateful and extreme and they seem to focus too much on getting something out of the other person instead of finding someone to love.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 08:57 PM
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Sex can cost you severe discomfort, injury, STDs, or pregnancy. These are things that men do not risk nearly as much as women do when engaging in heterosexual sex. If sex is so easy and free to give away, then why do you assume women would date until X-1? Why wouldn't she just have sex on the first date? You are aware that most women are a little careful with who they have sex with and how soon. There must be a reason for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 08:37 PM
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Any guy I am on a first date with I will assume is after sex as quickly as possible. A big part of the purpose of the first date is to try to figure out how true that is. If he can disprove it, then we move forward from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 08:36 PM
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I have mainly only seen this attitude among FDS types. Their argument is because there is so much more risk dating as a woman, and so much less to gain, the least the man can do is pay and take care of her. Me personally? I don't agree with that at all. I think you should both treat and take care of each other. It shouldn't be 100% me taking care of you, and it shouldn't be 100% you taking care of me. Otherwise what's the point of even pairing up?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 08:33 PM
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You’ve supposedly been involved with? People on this sub love anecdotal evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 01:26 AM
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Oh no kidding. That is devastating. No disagreement there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 11:55 PM
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Then don’t develop feelings for your friend. Or if you do, then leave the friendship if you can’t handle it. What feelings, anyway? Sexual feelings? I thought you red pill guys said you didn’t have feelings. I thought feelings were for women. If you’re devastated that someone likes talking to you and spending time with you, you might have a screw loose.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 11:42 PM
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Thanks for the clarification
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 08:16 PM
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First paragraph is spot-on. It's a classic example of modern female privilege and needs to be eradicated. Unfortunately not that many people care and I can't do it myself. But I do the best I can with the men in my life. I don't understand your last paragraph. What are you trying to say? If women are superior to men, then why are you comparing them to toddlers? Why are you spelling "women" like that? Who are the "ists"? What does this have to do with the quote you pulled from my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 07:27 PM
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How is wanting equal opportunity to rights and things a "fruit bat" ideology? Obviously biology and life circumstances make it impossible, but we can try to make sure people have as little in the way as possible from "pulling themselves up by their bootstraps."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 07:25 PM
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yes! that too
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 07:24 PM
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Purple is Red + Blue, kind of like a "purple state" (e. g. Missouri) is a swing state because it alternates between voting Republican (red) and Democrat (blue). I used to think I was a red pill woman because I'm an egalitarian and I think men's problems and issues are seriously neglected, mocked, and unacknowledged by society. Men, especially young men, are marginalized and treated like garbage and I hate it and want to change it. Then I realized that "red pill" often involves thinking women owe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 07:23 PM
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I think men are more likely to show anger because vulnerability is discouraged in men. Anger is just a cover-up for sadness, fear, or insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 07:17 PM
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And this is why the manosphere exists. It's a reaction to these toxic awful mainstream ideas that are pushed as "empowering" to women. Mainstream liberals are idiots. Radfems may be bitter nasty hags, but at least their logic is more airtight. Libfems make their bed and don't want to lie in it. I hate mainstream liberalism and what it has done to gender relations. Things were going great and they just had to take the whole "feminism" thing way too far.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 07:17 PM
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Yeah but men are much less likely to get chopped up and sprinkled into a ditch when they have random sexual encounters than women are
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 07:15 PM
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That first one is spot-on. Not all men, of course, but I have noticed a trend especially in conservative circles that goes like this: Man proclaims that women are "emotional" and we need to use "logic." As someone well-trained and quite naturally good at logic, I'm down for this. Man gets all up in his feelings about something and has a tantrum. Emotional reasoning follows. Man calms down and returns to discussing how irrational women are even though the only people to have an emotional outburst…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 07:12 PM
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If a dude has a regular vehicle that has been modified with an emphasis on form over function Sounds like a cool hobby to me. Who doesn't want purple fog lights? I think "person is into X hobby so they are insecure" is so stupid. Men can do fun things for themselves just like women can.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 07:10 PM
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My one absolute in life is: Any statement beginning with "all" is false. This is especially true with people. People are individuals and are all different. If I let broader trends I observe or have read papers about color how I treat men and women, my life would be sad and bitter and I would have missed out on some great relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 07:07 PM
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This. It is not subtle when they are doing that. It is our responsibility not to put up with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 07:05 PM
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Okay, thanks for the response.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 07:04 PM
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You're telling me to join a group about crazy-looking trans people so I can see how crazy trans people look? But they're not going to post normal-looking trans people there because that's not what the group is about. That's like seeking out confirmation bias. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 07:03 PM
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leads to improved overall interactions with women You mean sex. That's what you want. If all you want from women is sex, which many RP men do, then of course you will be disappointed. Women are full people with lives and dreams and goals, and sex isn't a huge part of that. If you want to develop a friendship or a study group or find a mentor or someone you can mentor, women are great for that. If you feel offended and slighted and used when you interact with a woman and don't get sex out of it, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 07:00 PM
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You guys are both super toxic and probably deserve each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 06:58 PM
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I agree that bad is necessary to know good. I knew girls who had guys falling at their feet and didn't seem to care. Meanwhile I got out of a relationship with a guy that treated me like crap, and later got into a relationship with a guy who was more of a hold-the-door-open, send-flowers, cook-you-dinner type guy. I am very aware that he is a catch and am grateful. Girls who can choose from 100 guys who will treat them like a queen will take it for granted. Not because they're girls, but because…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 06:57 PM
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Fellow bi, this is exactly how I feel as well. I would prefer to be better-looking than a man I'm dating (which as a woman isn't hard as we are usually perceived as better-looking anyway). I couldn't care less with a girl. No idea why.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 06:42 PM
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I just remind myself that no matter how hot he is, if he ever has eyes for anyone other than me it isn't worth it. Hotness has no leverage if you aren't willing to put up with crap for it. Leverage is all about what you're willing to put up with. The other partner has leverage only if you let them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 06:40 PM
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Me too. It's like a guaranteed phenomenon. I think my relationship is the only one where the guy is more attractive than I am, and that's only when you curve for gender (women are just generally better-looking than men and perceived as such by the majority of society). If you don't curve for gender, we are either looks-matched or I am more attractive than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 06:39 PM
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SAME
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 06:38 PM
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I simp pretty hard for my man, but it's not simping because "MP" stands for "mediocre pussy/penis" and if your partner is hot AF they're not mediocre. I also simp because he's probably the best person in terms of character I have ever come across in real life or otherwise. If his personality changed, I'd be out the door no matter how attractive he is. Looks fade.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 06:37 PM
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Oh man congratulations! That's so exciting. It's so helpful to have your own space to ground you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 06:36 PM
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Hey, man, I'm not sure what's going on with you but I just asked you a pretty simple question. I believe in an afterlife, too, but if you want to answer my question please just answer it instead of being cryptic. Isn't the purpose of this sub to learn from each other? I genuinely didn't mean to insult you and I'm getting the sense that you think I'm attacking you. That wasn't my intention (and trust me, I do attack people on this sub from time to time and I own that).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 06:32 PM
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Oh, no problem. I'm kind of where you are but I'm coming out of it. It was really toxic for me to have all that mistrust and bitterness hanging around and I feel better the further away I get from it. <3
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 06:29 PM
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Do men not want friends? I don't get this idea that women use men by being friends with them. I thought most humans were social creatures. Who cares if your friend is a woman or a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 06:28 PM
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? I'm actually asking. My impression was that red pill men are not pleased with the amount of leverage women currently hold in the SMP. I was wondering if this scenario seems like a good alternative. A lot of (not all of course) the red pill-flaired guys on this sub seem to talk about their own personal experience a lot and how much they, specifically, can/could get laid in a specific scenario. So for a strong red pill alpha male, this situation might be ideal because it means he'd be getting la…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 06:24 PM
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I am more likely to shoot myself with a gun You're supposed to point it away from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 06:22 PM
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homemade firearms This sounds awesome. Is there a way to get into this legally currently? It's never a bad day for a DIY.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 06:22 PM
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Yes, but many 16-year-olds show characteristics of sexual maturity. A LOT of guys who aren't pedophiles acknowledge this. If she's got boobs and a butt—and a lot of 16-year-olds do—that's all he needs to view her as "sexually mature." Plus some people find age gaps hot because of the power dynamic and the "innocent young thing" trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 06:22 PM
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I see where you're coming from and I have been there myself. However, I think we need to understand that making generalizations and using people is never the answer. It's not fair when guys do it to us, and it's not fair when we do it to them. Men are absolutely capable of being real companions. My experience was that more guys were emotionally intelligent and open when we were younger. I think that many men feel disenfranchised and marginalized by society. Whether they are or not is a different…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 06:20 PM
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It's out of control. Matt Walsh, if you know who he is, had a great segment about this on one of his shows. His argument goes like this: Sex is something that is meant for a monogamous long-term relationship between one man and one woman. This is what is best for both parties. It is especially important to women for reasons that are explained often enough on this sub. For women it isn't just psychologically important (as it also is to men whether they admit it or not), but it's also an issue of …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 06:01 PM
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It's weird because these guys usually claim they just want physical sex and have no use for women otherwise. But if that were the case...why not buy it? They also want the validation. They claim women are the validation whores who use men for validation, but...it's exactly what they're doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 05:55 PM
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Look how fast people have given up their rights over Covid I'd rather not. It's too depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 05:53 PM
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maybe form groups and live together That kind of sounds nice actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 05:52 PM
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Exactly this. Best believe I'd have a nice firearm collection (already working on that anyway), but if someone else is really motivated by their sexual degeneracy and has done this before, my odds against him aren't great even if I'm decent with a gun. And God help a woman who gets caught unarmed against a predatory man. Biology has never done us any favors.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 05:52 PM
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I don't think I'd date, period. It's already a massive risk and barely worth it even with the laws currently in place. Without them? Not worth it even a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 05:51 PM
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What a nightmare! For me, obviously, since I'm a woman and that sounds awful. As a red pill man, does this scenario appeal to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 05:49 PM
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women would avoid bad boys As if there is some kind of universal sign these guys wear saying "I'm bad." Most well-adjusted women already avoid red flag guys who dress/act a certain way that suggest they might be violent. The Ted Bundy types will always trick some people by being charming and seeming nice. Some women can detect a "bad vibe" from guys, but others can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 05:47 PM
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Most men are not pedos Yes, but a lot of girls 13-16 look sexually mature and guys will still perve them because boobs + butt + naivety + innocence fantasy. There's a reason "barely legal" and "teen" porn categories are SUPER popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 05:45 PM
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She should though, and she should also have one, and so should her mom and all her siblings
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 05:45 PM
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Even in the US, more and more states are second-amendment optional. I'd be out of my current blue shithole in about 30 sec flat if I even heard a rumor that this law would go into effect. Try and find me in the middle of Arkansas, rapists!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 05:44 PM
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men as a collective don't have some shared goals or will or plans amen
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 05:43 PM
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Men can also have guns. Men also tend to be more interested in guns (for reasons I cannot begin to fathom, since women have a much greater use for guns). If this law went into effect overnight, guns wouldn't make much of a difference. Then women would start hoarding guns and most of us wouldn't be able to get them. Things might balance out in a year or so, but it would be bad for women for awhile. Plus it takes time to learn how to shoot a gun and use it well, and there are already backlogs at m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 05:42 PM
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Most libertarians believe that there should be laws to prevent individuals from infringing on each others' rights. The hard part is deciding where to draw the line on what is someone's right to do, and what infringes on someone else's rights. For example, I think all people have a right not to be under threat of or experiencing forced or coerced sex. To me, this extends to workplace sexual comments. For example, if a man comments on my ass at work, and especially if it is a pattern, that prevent…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 05:41 PM
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Oh man I didn't even THINK of the pedophilia. Blech.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 05:38 PM
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It would still be disrespected as a profession. Laws wouldn't change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 05:37 PM
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There would just be more trafficking honestly. Countries/cities with legal prostitution have some of the highest trafficking rates in the world. It's the easiest place for traffickers to make money.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 05:36 PM
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other killings for self-defense This is a big one. A lot of women already view men as potential threats. Whether this is justified or not doesn't matter—it just is, for the time being. Once rape is legalized, you'd see a lot of women rushing to buy firearms and shooting any guy who looks at her funny. I know I would be tempted to pull the trigger, especially if society remained very sexist in terms of prison sentences. A woman would have a better chance on trial for murder than letting a guy get…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 05:36 PM
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Is this a fancy way to say that rape would be legal? Because I think it would look like women suddenly becoming super interested in firearms and a lot of people of both sexes suffering severe bodily harm and death. Men would have no worries about abducting and raping women. Probably the murder of rape victims would go down, however, since there is no need to worry about leaving a witness behind. Some guys are into killing women sexually but it's not a lot, and they'd have more to lose from killi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 05:34 PM
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tl;dr: I don't like what you said because it doesn't reinforce my worldview, so I am saying that women don't know themselves very well so that I can dismiss what you are saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 02:22 PM
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Men put out subconscious signals as to whether they are a danger or not that have nothing to do with looks. Women are usually pretty good at picking up on these things since we can’t risk getting raped, murdered, and dumped in a ditch. You should read “The Gift of Fear.” Ted Bundy was an attractive guy by all accounts. But there are women who report having “near misses” with him. Despite his attractiveness, they got a “bad feeling” when they were around him. Assuming women’s behavior toward you …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 01:42 PM
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But I just told you. My attraction to them was not related to height. My attraction to the first and my current was entirely personality-based. My attraction to the second was based on mostly skin tone at first, then personality as I got to know him, and eventually I was really into his height since he was relatively short compared to other guys at my school. You are suggesting that I made my decision on who to date first and foremost based on height. This is a red pill fallacy. You assume that …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 01:38 PM
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Most guys are taller than me. There were not many options for me that were shorter. In my high school my class had about 75 guys total and only one of them was in my height preference, and his personality really sucked—he was hot though. In college I spoke to no men except my current boyfriend and some of his friends on occasion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 04:37 AM
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I act that way because that’s what happened. The first guy introduced himself to me first and was the initiator of our friendship. The second guy I admittedly was physically attracted to very much when I first saw him, for many reasons including his relatively short height of 5’9 compared to other guys at my school. I was much less attracted to him after he grew two inches over the course of the following year, causing kisses to hurt my neck, and began following the red pill, causing his terribl…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 04:31 AM
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I preferred those guys because we happened to become friends. I got to know them, and we got along well, and the feelings developed from there. I actually remember a shorter guy, like 5’ or 5’1, who I found very physically attractive but his personality was really gross to me because he was so arrogant. I find it funny how people on this sub project their own values onto others. Physical appearance is one of the last things I care about when it comes to dating. And my physical attraction to some…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 04:16 AM
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Who said we didn’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 04:14 AM
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Oh man we must be the same person. I would also like a guy who is no taller than 5'5" (he could be pretty short, although I'd feel uncomfortable dating someone with dwarfism, but above 4' is probably my only limit). I am also not drawn to muscular guys or confident guys. I like being a provider, emotionally and otherwise, and guys who are super "cocky" either come off as having something to prove, which is embarrassing, or overconfident, which is yucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 10:31 PM
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I used to have a type of skinny nerdy guys. I'm a pretty short girl and so most guys I dated were too tall for me, even though it isn't my preference (hurts my neck and I genuinely wished every I guy I have dated was considerably shorter). When I met my current BF, he wasn't really my type. I don't usually go for conventionally attractive guys and he is—chiseled jawline, very lean, dark features. An incel's worst nightmare Chad. I am generally not into those types of guys as they tend to have hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 10:25 PM
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I mean this is PPD...most people here need professional help lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 06:24 PM
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It's fine if you're a selfish asshole and only looking out for yourself, which most redpill/FDS are anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 06:23 PM
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Maybe they are cold and detached because they are living in a society that demands them to lose their individual values or be left out of the "college life" I'm not red pilled at all, but you hit the nail on the head with this. What you got wrong was the "why." I think it has to do with "feminism" and "sexual liberation." This is an idea implanted by men of course to convince girls that they are "frigid" and "uncool" if they aren't having a ton of sex. So either you degrade yourself and allow yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 04:27 PM
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Yeah. I was friendly to a coworker in college. He proceeded to sexually harass me until he finally left for another job.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 04:23 PM
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most young women love attention I have known some women like this, but it isn't most of them. Usually with attention eventually comes harassment and then danger. Instagram is literally an online platform for orbiters. Guess what almost every girl has an Insta. Again, some women have public instagrams and seek attention there. I won't deny that because it's obviously true. Many women also have very successful public instagrams and make money off of it, and have no interest in what the men think o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 04:22 PM
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Personal experience boat coming in here, so hoist the jib and all that (I know nothing about boats). In high school, I had male friends and female friends and a couple of boyfriends. The guys were nice and polite, and the boyfriends were very respectful of my Christian faith and decision to practice premarital abstinence. In college, I carried over a boyfriend from high school. He noticed everyone was having casual sex and started to hate me for not "putting out." We broke up. I noticed that guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 04:17 PM
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Well no matter how it seems, it's very logical and it's something that happens with human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 04:10 PM
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Whatever helps you sleep at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 03:31 PM
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Or maybe it's just realllllly obvious because it's a horrible strategy that convinces guys who use it that it's really subtle and smart while women roll their eyes at it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 03:18 PM
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No, I know it as a woman who has had guys try to pull red pill crap on me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 03:11 PM
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it doesn't
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 02:16 PM
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She probably does. She also probably talks to a lot of the women in her life. It's something most well-adjusted people, including men, do with both romantic and non-romantic partners. Obviously if she's just rambling on about her problems and expecting you to listen all the time or solve them, that's toxic. But if she just wants to share a bit about her life and learn a bit about yours, you're a little crazy for taking offense to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 02:16 PM
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If "female nature" was a real thing that existed outside of the imaginations of insecure men online, then I'm sure it would work great
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 01:29 PM
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Lol. I was there not too long ago, sadly. But not all men are like that, and maybe not even most. A lot of men want love and attention as much as women do. And there are some really wonderful ones out there, just like there are wonderful women. People are individuals and they're worth a chance. <3
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 01:13 PM
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Why is FDS banned? It's just the female version of TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 01:01 PM
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this
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 01:00 PM
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A lot of guys who watch Breaking Bad sadly project themselves onto Walter. They're sad and hate themselves and think he's "so cool" because he's powerful. Scary look into the male mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:59 PM
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LITERALLY THIS. Unironically, even before I knew this was a thing other women did, I always viewed "hate Skylar" as a red flag. Walter was a total asshat and a horrible husband. What Skylar did to him was wrong, but not NEARLY a FRACTION as bad a what he did to her. She had to be the grown-up in the relationship caring for the kids while he got to live his childish power fantasy, literally risking the lives of her and their kids. Yikes. Men who hate her with a passion usually have a problem with…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:57 PM
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No, they care about sex. Once in a monogamous meaningful relationship, they then say that if he doesn't give you good sex you should dump him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:54 PM
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I mean, they kind of are. They are trying to use men for money to at least some degree. I don't think they're as bad as TRP because they focus on just dumping guys that don't give them what they want rather than manipulating men to trick them into giving them what they want. But they're still relatively manipulative and not people I want to associate with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:52 PM
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And girls with any sort of self-esteem don't put up with TRP strategies. Which is why both are absurdly stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:51 PM
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FDS is not representative of the majority of women, just like TRP isn't representative of the majority of men. They're both outliers of bitter people who have had terrible experiences with the opposite sex and have a lot going on with themselves that they should probably be addressing, but they would rather hang out in a toxic sexist echo chamber instead because it's less work and more validating. TRP and FDS deserve each other. The rest of us will have normal sane relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:49 PM
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YES. This comment is so spot-on. visible, observable physical eagerness This does NOT mean undressing her with your eyes or grabbing her boob the second she comes home from work. Compliment her on non-physical attributes, or on attributes that are physical but not directly sexual (hair, eyes, etc). Sexual touch too soon and out of context actually feels BAD for many women. Not just neutral, but terrible. Start things slow, get into foreplay, and you will have no problems. Patience is a very impo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:42 PM
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Or she just has a lower libido than he does. Women generally have a lower libido than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:39 PM
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The great thing about this sub is after a few minutes on here I just can't wait to give my boyfriend a big kiss. You guys set the bar so low for him! Is that the real red pill secret? Act awful online so girls think all guys are trash and so even the most basic act of human decency makes a guy seem like an angel? If so, well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:37 PM
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Not for a decent man in a relationship with a decent woman
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:35 PM
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Anger is ALWAYS a cover for a less "acceptable" emotion. Usually insecurity, fear, or grief. Men are conditioned to ONLY show anger, and even among women anger is the most acceptable emotion to show. No one wants to look weak. So that's why these sad scared guys seem angry all the time. They are extra stuck on being macho and have all these feelings, so the only outlet is LOTS of anger that can't be resolved.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:35 PM
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If you are creating an anxious response, you are intentionally hurting someone you presume to love. Get out of that relationship. With emotional/psychological abuse becoming a more mainstream thing, and left-wing media spreading near-hysteria about the incel movement, women in general are much more attuned to these sad attempts at manipulation anyway and will most likely leave you once you start doing this. I myself had a guy try this and it was pretty embarrassing for him. Needless to say, we a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:32 PM
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For myself and every woman I've ever met in my life, the idea of an old guy offering us money/gifts in a sexual context is vomit-inducing. I have never met a woman that would even be neutral about that idea, but would rather run as far and as fast as possible. Admittedly I tend to hang out with women who come from a relatively affluent background and put a lot of emphasis on education and general responsibility. So maybe that has something to do with it, because sugar babies obviously exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:25 PM
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Wait what if someone only wants you for sex? Do we have a word for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:23 PM
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Yeah, I've met guys like that and felt nothing except a strong revulsion. Men who are selfish and emotionally immature just aren't hot. Who knew?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:21 PM
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The idea of an "emotional tampon" is so silly to me. You don't want to talk to someone but you want to use their body? Explain to me how that isn't sociopathic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:21 PM
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Agree 100%. And you're not the only man alive who thinks this way. A man who understands that sex is not and never should be just physical is a bare minimum requirement for me at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:20 PM
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Yeah, if you don't get murdered, you might get pregnant! And the sex probably won't be good anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:19 PM
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Does construction workers being male make a difference here? Construction workers merely execute plans that other people came up with—mostly architects and engineers. LOTS of architects are women and so are more and more engineers as time goes on. So...your argument still doesn't work, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:09 PM
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Because he's assuming that's the reason, instead of the more obvious reason that people get less impulsive as they get older and as they are removed from high peer-pressure situations such as college. I mean, what if James got super drunk at college and shit his pants in his dorm? Or what if he was a red pill asshole? Would Jenna be wrong to judge him for it years later? Of course. People grow up and change, especially as their environments change.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:08 PM
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Oh, thank God. I had no idea this was on the horizon. Can we give this to cisgender men, as well? My boyfriend is pretty set on having biological kids, if any, and pregnancy doesn't interest me at all. This could be a great solution for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 01:01 AM
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Or maybe you just grew older and more mature. People generally are less impulsive as they get older. It usually doesn’t have anything to do with James and everything to do with Jenna.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 10:34 PM
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All of this makes sense except: it’s kind of known that we are getting close to the point where transwomen will be able to have their own biological children Gonna need a source on that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 10:29 PM
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I couldn’t agree with this more
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:04 AM
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Fair enough!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 09:57 PM
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Mind you, I don't tell a woman any of this This is a really smart way to go about it. I dated a redpill guy who was very open about his redpill ways (which is against their teachings but it was helpful for me so I'm not complaining). I had told him I was practicing premarital abstinence and he had at first been fine with it, but later joined redpill and changed his mind. He began applying every manipulative coercive tactic he could think of to get me to be sexual with him. Really fucked with my …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 07:48 PM
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It doesn’t but I don’t like the way it is either, is what I’m saying. I don’t get how adversarial some people on this sub get even when others agree with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 05:19 PM
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I’m a girl who’s into skinny boys actually. But if I were a boy I’d probably be a skinny one so close enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 05:26 AM
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Because the hood is a miserable violent pathetic place? But ok if you’re happy you’re happy. But don’t act like just because your trashy neighbors care about cars that real people with lives do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 05:16 AM
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Yes...that’s what I was doing. That was the whole point. I think you might have seen the word “woman” in my flair and assumed I was arguing with you. I was mostly supporting your points and explaining the rationale behind them. Don’t forget I also have “purple” in my flair. That means I will often agree with you! I personally think men’s lives need to be valued and that men need to know that their lives matter. It’s sad to me how they are tossed aside by society and basically told they’re worthl…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 05:15 AM
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Did you know that there are other countries outside of Japan? The more you know
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 05:13 AM
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Bingo. A lot of women aren’t. The dumb ones who think they are feminists fall for it. The smart ones who are feminists and genuinely hate men have broken off long ago. I’m personally extremely wary of men in dresses due to the rise of predatory fetishists, but I try to be compassionate to everyone and assume the best until seeing the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 05:12 AM
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You’ve just said this to one of the most absurdly libertarian people on reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 05:10 AM
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I think you’d be surprised. A lot of it is that women aren’t as willing to run their bodies into the ground as men are. I think some of this is evolutionary biology, since women needed to stay alive and take care of the family at home and men were supposedly more “replaceable.” Nowadays with modern feminism, and just general societal attitudes, women and little girls are constantly told that they are valuable and beautiful and important and should love themselves, while men get no such treatment…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 11:26 PM
1

Actually I didn’t think about becoming a crane operator. I have added that to my list of potential careers. That and trucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 11:21 PM
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Amateur porn depends on the willingness of the people involved. Maybe some women like anal. I don’t know. I doubt it. But not all will because the lady you saw on pornhub does. It’s ok though just find someone you’re sexually compatible with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 11:20 PM
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Ok, noted
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 11:18 PM
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Yes...maybe your confusing the willingness to be uncomfortable or in pain with love? Why would someone who loves you want you to be in pain? Does not compute
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 11:18 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 11:16 PM
2

Get out of the hood
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 11:16 PM
2

There are still way fewer women in nerd spaces than men. Unlike construction work, video games aren’t 3x more taxing on the female body than on the male body
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 11:15 PM
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It’s scary how detached from reality some of you guys are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 11:14 PM
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Men don't HAVE to do those jobs either. Some of them choose to because they want to. So fine. They should be allowed to. If they don't, there are other jobs they can do. I don't see what your point is. Women are biologically weaker. You know this. Any job with heavy lifting is going to be WAY harder and more taxing on a woman than on a man. Also construction is known for being super sexist when a woman does go in, and construction workers are known to be sexual harassers. They're the poster boys…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 08:44 PM
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Most girls could not care less about cars. That's like saying girls have to get their nails done to attract guys when guys don't even notice nails.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 08:42 PM
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Yeah, a lot of higher-paying specialized jobs will get replaced, too. Programmers, lawyers, and surgeons aren't safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 08:39 PM
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Yeah it's not remotely true. Lots of girls are into skinny guys. It's a whole type.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 08:36 PM
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So if a wife gets out of shape and uglier and less interesting the guy should be fine with it as long as she's focusing on her career and education more? Because I haven't heard ANYONE say that, red pill or blue pill
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 08:35 PM
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it should all be case by case Exactly! Same with sexual acts
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 08:30 PM
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I don't agree with the original OP, so you might want to argue with someone else. Women don't rely on men. I know plenty of happy single women who have their own houses and are really happy with their lives, and many of them are well past "the wall" by most red pill definitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 07:24 PM
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Your argument falls apart at the words "what she so freely gave to another man." How do you define "freely?" What if he threatened to harm her physically if she didn't do it? What if he threatened to leave her if she didn't do it? What if he controlled all their finances and threatened her access to food/medical care/other resources if she didn't do it? Please note in the last category I am not referring to women who do certain things FOR money (like handbags, jewelry, money to have fun and go o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 07:18 PM
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Did someone with a red pill flair accuse someone else of being a child who is just figuring things out and excited to share their theories with everyone? I think my head just exploded
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 07:13 PM
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Yes, and we are in the Civil War times of transgender medical science. It hasn't been extensively researched, mostly because it affects such a tiny percentage of the population. If you have a better idea that you can prove works better than transitioning, I'm all ears.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 07:12 PM
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The study is all the creepy "women" on Twitter with anime girl profile pictures, or 90% of the user base of r/actuallesbians
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 07:08 PM
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This is where I am at on this situation. That's why I think red pill/pink pill is so dangerous. It creates a "women are like this, men are like that" dichotomy that has nothing to do with reality. If red pill had been super mainstream when I was younger, I would have been convinced I'm a man just because I'm not any of the things redpillers say women are. Turns out, most women aren't like that at all. Redpillers are just delusional. And of course it goes the other way. In fact, it IS GOING the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 07:04 PM
1

What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 07:00 PM
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Honestly probably
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 05:15 PM
1

yes I meant LGB lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 05:15 PM
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I do see them that way actually, but you then went on in your original comment to equate "loving women" with "wanting sex with women." MANY MANY men do love women beyond sexual reasons. I know plenty of men who crave female companionship and genuinely love and respect women. I also know MANY MANY men who only want sex from women and are indifferent to them as human beings or companions. I was trying to make that distinctions. I commented far too casually and I am truly sorry that I gave off the …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 05:10 PM
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All of those things are signs of low self-esteem lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 05:07 PM
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No, she's an example of a woman. She is a very good example of a bad woman. This isn't "no true Scotsman," this is "just one Scotsman does not represent all Scotsmen."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 05:07 PM
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Do you feel this "wires crossed" analogy applies to LGBT people, as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 05:06 PM
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not for anything other than sex of course This is the whole point. No one is saying men give a fuck about women as people. They want them for sexual purposes. And this drive to sleep with women is MUCH higher than any drive women have towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 05:04 PM
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She probably has very low self-esteem
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 04:41 PM
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Sounds like you picked a childish girlfriend. Of course when you hang out with people like that you're going to think that way
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 04:41 PM
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There is this trend in Poland boy do I have some bad news for you about the rest of the world
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 04:40 PM
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They want the validation. They don't want to pay for prostitutes or strip clubs. They want a woman to choose them to have sex with. It's an ego trip. They claim women are obsessed with attention and validation, but they're really mostly projecting. Some women are attention-seeking, absolutely, but most of us are so used to attention that it's not something we really chase much.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 04:38 PM
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The emotional support thing is always understated IMO. With every guy I have dated or even been friends with, they get into their feelings QUICK. Women are supposed to be the "emotional" sex, but I have noticed MUCH more emotional behavior from men in my personal experience. I have gathered that a lot of this has to do with them being unable to express their emotions with other guys, and therapy is stigmatized, so when a girl is around (me) they need to get it all out. I'm always happy to oblige…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 04:37 PM
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This is the best comment I have seen on reddit maybe ever. I have been saying this as well. Nature this, biology that. What are we, rabbits? Monkeys? No, we have a higher consciousness and can and SHOULD strive to DO BETTER.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 04:35 PM
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Of course. Her "use" is access to her body. In modern times, this also includes trying to live up to the standards of pornography. A lot of men don't even glance at, much less talk to or engage with, women who aren't interested in sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 04:34 PM
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I can do it. It's because they're bigger and stronger than us and that gives them more power. They implicitly threaten our lives by just existing. Men kill women all the time and it's easy for them to do so. Also society is set up to value "male" things over "female" things. Action heroes are cool. Stay-at-home mothers are not. Oil field engineers get paid 6 figures. Daycare workers are lucky to make 5. Resenting men is more natural than not resenting them. Since men desire no-strings-attached c…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 04:31 PM
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I've also heard that a lot of gay dudes are very handsy with women for some reason and a lot more cavalier with consent (e. g., they will grab boobs without asking out of nowhere). This is just anecdotal though so it could just be BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 04:30 PM
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no one is ever responsible for anything they do This is the manosphere summed up in one nice little sentence
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 04:26 PM
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Serial killers and rapists are extremes of a trope that men want to use women's bodies for sex with no care for the woman herself as a human being equal to himself. It's as if everyone had a head cold, but some people get the symptoms much worse than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 04:24 PM
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"Men love women" Wanting to stick your dick in something is not love lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 04:21 PM
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Has this been confirmed by a doctor? It seems strange to me that you would look very feminine but would have a "male brain," especially since there isn't a lot of science to back up the "male brain" anyway. You could just be a woman who is an individual like every other woman. Being able to think for yourself is not a male characteristic. Feel free not to answer if it's too personal, but is your body masculine in any way? Are you hairy, for example? I'm a pretty feminine-looking woman but I am n…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 04:03 PM
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Wait, so are you biologically male or female? It sounds from the "feminine software running in masculine hardware" that you were born male but raised female.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 03:35 PM
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I think you should be able to do whatever you want. I will defend your right to treat your wife like garbage and treat marriage like a casual relationship if that's what you want. But I will not respect anyone who behaves that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 02:52 PM
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That last paragraph is really interesting. You would treat the group as a "new type of person" and therefore have to develop new "strategies" to get in their pants. I think so far this is the answer that makes the most sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 02:36 PM
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That's...not what marriage is. This isn't a man/woman issue. I expect to do what is best for my husband as well when and if I get married. That is what marriage is about. It's about sacrifice and doing what is best for the other person first and foremost. My boyfriend and I have a saying: it's not two people giving 50%, it's two people giving 100%. Not all the time will that be possible, but it is what we strive for even now. Children are selfish and think only of themselves first. You calling m…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 02:36 PM
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Ah, so they don't understand marriage and are overgrown children. Got it. Color me shocked!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 02:03 PM
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That's good at least. I have a friend whose wife is a straight-up druggie and still got 50% custody. Not to mention she's living with a new boyfriend. Disgusting. The justice system has little to do with justice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 01:55 PM
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I just went to MRP and all the top posts are from divorced guys still trying to manipulate women into doing what they want instead of being in a healthy relationship giving 100%. You cannot make this stuff up...hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 01:54 PM
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I think it's less about feeling special and more about being reduced to an object to win over. The way you speak about "picking up" women is a lot like a football strategy. If the other team does this, we run this play, and then we win the game and therefore the prize. Women are people and don't like being talked about like an object to be won over. Moreover, these "strategies" are clearly not about getting to know her, becoming close with her, or cultivating a strong relationship. As you have s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 01:47 PM
1

Truly an original and side-splitting joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 01:40 PM
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Thanks for your contribution. I think that there are two flaws with your points, however. Firstly, you would need to define "individual choices." If I make the individual choice to kill somebody, I don't think that's the same thing as the individual choice to take hormones and surgically change my genitals. One involves changing the trajectory of someone else's life. The other usually doesn't. Secondly, I totally agree about the role models and guidelines. Transgender people, though, make up les…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 01:40 PM
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I agree, and I hate it. It's a terrible world and it's creating terrible people. It disgusts me how women totally control what happens to and with their offspring every step of the way. Do you have similar frustrations with the issue of women almost always getting custody of their children after a divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 01:11 PM
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Heterosexual woman can learn from it too if they want to know why they behave the way they do Thanks for the chuckle first thing in the morning. I needed that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 01:07 PM
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I think the "rapid onset gender dysphoria" was mainly in teenage or college-age girls. Someone I know and fell somewhat out of contact with is going through this and it's so hard to watch. I am certain it is because she wants to "escape being female" because she was recently raped. I don't blame her at all. I'd probably want to pump myself full of testosterone and remove my breasts if that happened to me, too. But I'm really afraid she's going to regret it. Abigail Shrier wrote a book about this…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 01:05 PM
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Obviously a man can be tricked. I'm not saying he can't be. But you should at least ask. And you know, this problem can be mostly avoided if you don't have stupid casual meaningless sex like redpillers are so fond of. My boyfriend knows I take my pill, not only because I told him and by now he knows me well enough to trust me, but he's seen me take it many times. He even knows where the partially-used pill pack is so he could check if he wanted to. We practice premarital abstinence though so thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 01:04 PM
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I wasn't aware whether manospherians had a problem with trans people, which is mainly why I asked the question—to find out how trans issues were affecting them (or at least how they think/feel trans issues affect them). I know radfems don't like trans women because there is an increasingly growing number of people calling themselves trans women while having a fetish rather than gender dysphoria. These guys are shoving their ways into women's sports where they get off beating the shit out of wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 01:00 PM
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I was afraid most people would say they would never date a transgender person. The question assumes that for some reason you would want to. What strategy would you use? If you’re red pill, for example, would you try the same tricks on a trans woman? If you’re pink pill, would you try your tricks on a trans man?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 03:53 AM
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Yes I am. I think that consenting to have sex is consenting to the possibility of a child being conceived. Once the child is conceived you’ve made a person and you don’t get to kill it because you want your freedom and money. That goes for men and women. Men need to check that women are on the pill AND make sure to use condoms to limit this risk. Just as women need to BE on the pill AND make sure men are wearing condoms. But the only failsafe birth control method is abstinence, so you’d BOTH bes…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 03:51 AM
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So you like having the option to run away from a child created by your decision to have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 03:26 AM
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Regarding reproductive autonomy: what do you think if someone is vehemently against both actual abortions by the mother AND paper abortions by the father? I find both reprehensible and would not allow either in my ideal society. A lot of women also hate affirmative action because we are taken less seriously because of it and never know whether we got our job by merit or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 03:20 AM
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I’ve been talking to you and reading your comments. You have an ugly attitude and nobody, man or woman, will put up with it forever. But keep telling yourself how much leverage you have. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 02:57 AM
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She’s gonna get tired of you. I did the same thing. Most women do it when they’re younger. She’s behind the curve. She will get super sick of your attitude and leave you rotting in the dust. Enjoy your fun while it lasts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 01:37 AM
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That would be my preferred route. My current man has expressed interest in being a SAHD but he comes from macho culture and has some ego issues with it, which I find concerning. I’m expecting him to grow out of that in the next few years since we are still pretty young and I also have some regressive ideas I’m shaking off from my upbringing. My kids aren’t going anywhere near the public school system if I can help it. I’d sooner not have kids than have them and put them through that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 01:34 AM
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You sound like you have no understanding of women and are blowing a lot of hot air out of insecurity. Imagine being happy that the educational system is failing boys and that society treats men as disposable because it means you might be able to get your dick wet a bit more often. Well that might be true if you lower your standards, but high quality women will be majorly turned off by your attitude and won’t stick around long. Not that you care—now. But when you’re lying in bed in a nursing home…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 01:32 AM
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I mean for me personally I just love my career and don’t plan on giving it up. If my husband wants to that’s fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 09:47 PM
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Yeah, the whole "men age better than women" spiel is delusional. It can happen, but is rarely the case, especially since so many men refuse to take care of themselves as they age. Skincare? They've never heard of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 09:23 PM
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in what universe? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 09:21 PM
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bingo
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 09:20 PM
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I'll never understand why they look down on femininity, and up to masculinity Because society does. Think about the last great movie you saw. Was the main character a homemaker who took great care of the kids, made sure they were at school and soccer practice on time, stayed home with the family, eschewed a professional life, was polite, kept the house clean, and made delicious dinners for her husband? No. Male things are seen as "cool" and "impressive" and they generally pull more money, which …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 09:18 PM
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I frankly prefer short men. I have never understood the appeal of men being super tall, or even taller than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 09:15 PM
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You want to play the generalization game? Let's do it. Look at actual real-life couples outside. This means leaving your mother's basement and going out into the sunlight, so I'd recommend wearing a hat and maybe putting a dab of sunscreen on your nose. The women are almost always WAY out of the guy's league. How many times do you see some schlub in sweatpants who clearly hasn't showered in a few days with a woman who is looking very good, well-dressed, groomed, and clean? Count. Looks are MUCH …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 09:15 PM
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Yes, this explains why so many women lust after Donald Trump, Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, and Harvey Weinstein. YUCK
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 09:11 PM
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I just had to look it up. I know some women who are absolutely hypergamous. I also know a lot of women who aren't. This red pill stuff is so tiring, just fixating on generalizations that don't exist and running in circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 09:10 PM
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Rule #3 is brilliant
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 09:09 PM
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Exactly. This is how you end up with red pill jerkoffs teaching young impressionable disenfranchised men to "spin plates" and how you get bitter cat ladies on FDS teaching women to expect men to pay for everything. It's just two trains headed toward each other on the tracks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 09:07 PM
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You know how red pill guys react to a woman going into their sub and giving her opinions on their ideology? Yeah, that works both ways lmaooo
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 09:06 PM
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Doubt. Some of the hottest girls I've known were the most insecure. That's what happens when everyone is pretending to like you and be nice to you so you'll take your clothes off.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 08:48 PM
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Yeah in my experience most women are super careful because they're the ones at risk of getting pregnant, and the type of guy to want casual sex will usually try to talk you out of a condom. No thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 08:44 PM
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y'all need to convert to Christianity or some shit. church would blow your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 08:44 PM
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Explain that to my GigaChad boyfriend who gets sad if I go too long without texting him and constantly initiates dates even when he knows sex isn't on the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 08:41 PM
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Men and women value different things Depending on who they are. You have fallen into the trap of thinking AMALT and AWALT rather than seeing people as individuals. A sad way to live. I got a man who is desired by every woman who sees him and constantly checks if I want sexual things and often pulls back or waits to make sure I am comfortable. We have gone months without doing anything sexual due to us both being cautious and he still texts me every day, hangs out, cuddles, the works. Did your br…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 08:40 PM
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This is how I feel, as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 08:35 PM
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WAIT WAIT WAIT after YEARS of hearing redpill guys say that women are soulsucking demons for wanting companionship and that they just use men for companionship and affection, now you're saying YOU want that eventually after you're all "used up" for your "twilight years"? How do you stand up under the weight of all that hypocrisy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 08:31 PM
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username checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 08:24 PM
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Would you care if your wife never wore her wedding ring?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 08:23 PM
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Yeah this sounds shady af. I had a couple BFs in high school that I kept kind of on the dl at least on social media because my church would send their pastors after me if they found out I was dating someone outside the faith. But that was mainly because my parents pressured me to keep it quiet rather than that I wanted to. Once I got my first and hopefully only "grown-up" boyfriend, he's all over my socials and I gush about him to whoever has the misfortune of being within earshot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 08:22 PM
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It’s a man’s responsibility to check if the woman is on birth control
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 02:28 AM
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Condom and birth control are equally the man's responsibility. Telling anyone of any sex to kill a child because of their own irresponsibility is horrific. I hope you grow out of that mindset. Of course the man equally decided to sleep with the woman. In fact, he was most likely the one who pushed for it. Don't you love to complain about how frigid and sexless women are? How can you not see the lack of logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 02:09 AM
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This post is really vague. What exactly did you change? What exactly did she change? Did these changes happen quickly? What made you decide to go off TRP? Is something else going on in her life (for example, a global pandemic, riots in the streets, and a tanking economy) that could cause this change in her?
/r/ExRedPill20/08/20 02:06 AM
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I mean, some people are always more attractive. I have also known "alpha" females that got 90% of the attention from guys while normal girls like me barely got any. I was always jealous of them but I recognized that this wasn't the guys' fault and I found my strengths to get male attention when I wanted it. Once I stopped focusing on other people and focused instead on what I do well, I realized I could have almost any guy I wanted if I played my cards right. Girls are the same way. Looks only g…
/r/ExRedPill20/08/20 01:58 AM
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It applies to deeply insecure women who hate themselves. Anyone else will quickly move on once they pick up on mind games. Basic psychology and warning signs of abuse are commonly known these days. I predict the red pill will quickly die out as a result.
/r/ExRedPill20/08/20 01:52 AM
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Really? You're going to blame the women for having sex (giving the men what they so desperately want according to redpillers) and then...sticking around to raise the child while the man fucks off like a child? Like 90% of the blame goes to the man in that situation if you are looking at it objectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 01:46 AM
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and here you are...really makes you think
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 01:44 AM
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Ah yes. Let's be like China. Or India. Or Japan. They've been around for ages and their citizens are just so very happy. No. They're shitholes. We are here for a good time, not a long time. No country or culture should last forever. You can force people into roles, authoritarian-style, like China does, for example. They don't get to choose their careers but are sorted into them according to tests. They have much less personal liberty than Americans do. Organizing your people like bees in a hive …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 01:43 AM
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it's not some magic woman science This right here. If people could get this right here, that would be a step in the right direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 01:36 AM
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I am mostly out of the faith. Strangely, though he hated that I wouldn’t have sex with HIM, my religious nature was one of my ex’s favorite things about me due to the built-in misogyny. I am not sure if I need a new church, a new way to work with the Bible, or to throw the whole thing out. I’m not going to follow a God who genuinely think that a woman’s role is to be submissive and a man’s role is to teach and lead. That’s just laughable and absurd to anyone who has ever met more than two or thr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 10:32 PM
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Whatever helps you feel better about yourself bruh. That’s what all this redpill and pinkpill crap is about. “Men are X so I will do Y!” “Women are A so you better do B!” If the world were that simple, we wouldn’t still be talking and arguing about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 10:25 PM
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Yes. Your entire argument is predicated on it, so since this premise is false, your whole argument crumbles.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 09:27 PM
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That guy didn’t claim to be a Christian in fairness. He just claimed to be a not-asshole who valued me for me and not what my body could do for his body physically. I’m glad the red pill worked for you. I will always be skeptical of—no, I will always reject—any “teaching” that says “this demographic is X so do Y.” People are different no matter their race/gender/sexuality or even politics. In my opinion TRP subreddit isn’t some kind of anomaly because it’s full of assholes. It’s that way because…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 09:25 PM
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My boyfriend could easily do better than me physically and in all other ways. I have no dread because he’s a faithful guy with a good heart. If he wasn’t a faithful guy with a good heart, then he would no longer be someone I am interested in and sure he could do better physically with stupid women or women who want casual sex, but high value women would also not be interested. So either way guess who wins? Me!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 08:48 PM
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So I was a practicing Christian and abstinence was a big part of that. I let the guy know and he assured me he was more than fine with that and just talking to me even would be enough because I’m just that great. Later he changed his mind and joined TRP. He talked about “pulling,” how I was looking for a “beta bux,” “spinning plates,” and began treating me coldly and poorly in what was clearly an attempt to “emotionally withdraw” so I’d have sex with him. I’m ashamed to admit it was so sudden an…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 08:24 PM
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Except by nature women can have almost any man they want
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 07:20 PM
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Women want to be in that position, men don't That's just not true. This is where your entire argument falls apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 06:39 PM
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My boyfriend is perfect for me. He is socially a little bit more conservative than I am, but politically a bit more liberal than I am. We have enough in common in terms of values to agree about the important stuff, but not so much that it's boring and we can't have a lively discussion. He's not overly macho. He has a great sense of humor, and even better, he finds me just as funny as I find him because I am (some guys are really into getting girls to laugh but then do the whole "women aren't fun…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 05:53 PM
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If you can go days without even talking to your partner, it's not the right partner for you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 05:46 PM
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Nor should they be. And I don't think men should be shamed for avoiding manizers. The problem that people have when men start talking about how awful it is for women to be promiscuous is that those same men seem to think it is good for men to have lots of sexual partners (usually casual), and there's a huge double standard. That's the part they get shamed for.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 05:45 PM
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All women you have known is not a large enough sample size. Don't make assumptions based on your past experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 05:44 PM
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Yeah and this is REALLY obvious. It is not some subtle thing that makes a woman suddenly doubt her boundaries and want him. It's just a turnoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 05:30 PM
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Sometimes I feel like I scooped up my BF before he learned his worth, lol, but I constantly build him up and tell him how great he is and how much I adore him and how every girl wants him. So hopefully he knows his worth and is getting enough validation from me to make up for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 05:28 PM
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And not just like 30 sec of foreplay. And grabbing her vagina or boob is not foreplay. Foreplay needs to last probably as long as actual sex will last, and it needs to start out avoiding erogenous zones and slowly working into them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 05:26 PM
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This is exactly what it is. Redpill and PUA are all about withholding attention and validation and emotional affection. Their theory is it matters as much to women as sex does to them. Unfortunately by grouping people into such broad categories they are going to lose a lot because people are indviduals.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 05:24 PM
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Literally this. RP is all about breaking down self-esteem. They have strategies to do so. I dated a RP guy for awhile and loathed myself the entire time. It was a dark time. I'm glad to be out of there and now I laugh at my past self for putting up with it for so long. Low self-esteem can really warp your views.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 05:23 PM
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Yeah, this would have worked on me back when I was young and insecure. Nowadays, nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 05:23 PM
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This is a bizarre "strategy." My boyfriend used to actually be like this. We practice abstinence and he didn't want to "get going" because we'd have to stop and it was hard for him. Yeah, it felt a bit weird at first, but it made logical sense and I didn't hold it against him or try to get him to change his mind. If people could just act like adults and have some respect for each other, this sub wouldn't even need to exist. What a bizarre way to treat someone you're presumably trying to get clos…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 05:21 PM
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It's a lot like the red pill that way. There is enough good that you can get tricked into swallowing the whole thing, poison and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 05:19 PM
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Ooh now do men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 05:17 PM
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The red pill isn't about that lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 05:16 PM
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If I were a high n girl, I'd likely prefer a low n dude. FTFY. I wouldn't rule someone out because people can change, but promiscuity shows poor character whether you are a man or a woman. Either you can't keep relationships going for very long (red flag), or you are having lots of casual sex that has nothing to do with relationships, which means you are some kind of sociopath most likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 05:15 PM
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is not very good looking for a lot of men lol. lots of women have this mindset, too. it's so stupid and restrictive. just treat people like individuals and weed out the ones you don't like. women/men aren't THE BORG, they are individuals and some are good and some are bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 05:13 PM
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This is a common myth. It depends on the person. I'm a woman. For me, respect is more important than love. But for some women they are equal, and love is more important. SPEAK to your individual partner instead of assuming things because of their sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 05:12 PM
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I am a woman and I absolutely do. My boyfriend is less experienced than I am and that's the way I prefer it. I don't WANT to have more experience than him. I wish we both had very little experience. The less experience, the better. Extensive experience in relationships, and especially with sex, creates entitlement and depravity. I still have MUCH less experience than the average person and I am glad for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 05:10 PM
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It's almost like these manipulative mind games don't fucking work
/r/askTRP10/08/20 02:05 AM
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So this sub about manipulating and abusing women draws the line at racism? Hilarious. Also to be fair it is a pretty decent stereotype. Most women do not want to be left alone with a bunch of Hispanic guys unfortunately. The culture is very different and most Western women would not be safe.
/r/askTRP10/08/20 02:02 AM
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