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/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:01 PM
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Usually after some dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:27 PM
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At worse she'll go from not talking to this person to not talking to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:16 PM
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Go through their profile and like an old post
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:12 PM
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I've sort of liked this one woman for a couple years now. Wouldn't date her, though, nor do I have any indication she has any interest. Over the last 5 years so I'd say I've reached the talking stage maybe twice a year on average. I think I'm pretty much done with dating, though. My heart's just not in it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:11 PM
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That post seems like rage bait to me
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:06 PM
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Women drinking beer is highly unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:02 PM
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Incorrect. We had this argument in a thread yesterday about a guy from tiktok. No matter what you do or how you style yourself, average facial structure caps you at average as far as women are concerned. Women are looking for reasons to filter you, not a sum of your qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:56 PM
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Second, we simply aren’t as visually wired as men, rarely does a picture alone ever make us really interested in an average but attractive guy. Women decide who is physically attractive based on visual appearance like everyone else save demisexuals and other edge cases. Women just often settle for men who are not physically attractive because they have no other choice besides stay single. Now that women no longer need men to survive, they are settling less than ever before. Not wanting to mastur…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:53 PM
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Frugality do be boring
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:01 PM
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Oh, I agree with him. You can't force people to like what they don't like. No reason you can't complain about the way things are, though, especially when one side consistently lies about their nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:54 PM
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Filicidal women are wonderful
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:50 PM
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Not for Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:18 PM
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What about real life?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:08 PM
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Personally? I only date high-interest women, even if that means often (but not always) dating slightly down. Makes dating super low friction instead of chasing fantasy trophies. I wish I could. Dating down for me means dating women I'm not attracted to, and I just have no interest. It is amazing what it's like to talk to a woman who's actually interested in you, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:07 PM
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Seeking variety and desire to sow your wild oats so-to-speak is a traditionally male thing. Women clearly always had it in them, but we live in unprecedented times of access and safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 02:44 PM
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Male loneliness and sexlessness is increasing. They're not happy about it. As of right now, the majority of people still pair up. That majority has been trending towards a minority for some time, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 02:40 PM
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I ended up obsessed with guys I initially didn't feel any spark. We shouldn't be encouraging women to give guys they feel no spark with a chance. 99% of the time, the only feelings women develop towards those men is resentment, not obsession. I've talked to a lot of women who felt pressure to not be shallow, and we really shouldn't be doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 02:34 PM
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All women needed to develop a male sex drive was access to a plethora of tall men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 02:25 PM
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To the good looking men/Chads in here, do you get hit on by overweight/obese women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 02:22 PM
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In a just world, that would be true. Ultimately, though, the market determines your value. Men place way more value on a woman's body than women do on mens physique. Face, height, etc matter more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 02:12 PM
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Pointing out someone's standards are too high =/= telling them to lower them. Men and women complain about not getting what they want. Pointing out why they're probably not getting what they want doesn't mean you've giving them advice. OP is wrong that nobody is telling anyone else to lower their standards because that definitely does happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 01:45 PM
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They don't need to know that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:35 AM
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All the times you tell your kids and your grandkids that back in your day you walked to work 2-3 miles each way through 3-4 feet of snow are gonna be a movie
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 02:32 AM
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It's been broootal
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 01:56 AM
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Pissed at her employer, not the new girl
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 01:54 AM
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Do you live the mountains or something? If we get 3-4 feet of snow everything shuts down pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 01:10 AM
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Nah, fuck this shit. I've been ready for spring since November.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:42 AM
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Nothing worth doing is easy. I've been fat, being fat fucking sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:32 AM
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So he wasn't good looking and he was broke. What were you getting out of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:06 AM
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Easier than losing weight I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:43 PM
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Don't bully me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:23 PM
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Sprinkle a dash of adrenochrome in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 09:55 PM
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Damn, she sucks. If you get a job via referral, you should be doing everything you can to pay back that favor by making the person who referred you look good.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 09:54 PM
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Did you tell her your salary?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 09:35 PM
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One has to know their limitations.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:57 PM
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This is some crabs in a bucket shit. Her making as much as you doesn't take anything away from you. There's no reason everybody can't eat. If they offered her more than you, then you'd have call to be pissed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:34 PM
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I don't understand why she'd even bother. Just cash the pickme grifter checks and enjoy your life. Why even risk potentially showing people your ass like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:32 PM
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How should men evaluate themselves, NoShortMen4Me?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:40 PM
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No worries. That's close enough to answering my question anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:09 PM
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Any chance I could ask you a question privately regarding this?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:59 PM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:46 PM
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Are you in the US? Even in the 18-30 age range, most people are overweight or obese. He's not fat and not ugly. Let's also assume he's not short for the sake of the argument even though we don't have that info. Shouldn't that automatically make him above average unless you consider most men below average? I'm looking for an objective assessment here. It's got nothing to do with personal taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:45 PM
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Fwiw, I don't think it's a super common thing, just that it has happened. It's happened in the daily thread too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:39 PM
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You should google it with your first name and see if the rest of your info comes up. In any case, a lot of women are excellent e-stalkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:28 PM
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That's how PPD couples start.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:28 PM
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Does she have your phone number?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:27 PM
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Do you live in a city that is known for having a disproportionate amount of above average looking people like LA, Miami, or NY?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:40 PM
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When I've tried to date while not feeling good enough, I put up with a lot of shit I shouldn't have. I was worried you might be making a similar mistake, so I wanted to warn you. If you're not dating until you're ready, then you don't have to worry about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:17 PM
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Gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:49 PM
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No, once I'm done with someone I'm done. I'll be cordial if we run into each other, but I have no interest in maintaining ties.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:15 PM
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Thinking you're not enough isn't the right way to approach it imo. That can make you vulnerable to being taken advantage of at the very least and abused at worst. You should want to make your partner's life better, but you also deserve for them to reciprocate your energy. They chose you, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:10 PM
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He's only average if you rate most men below average, which women do. Women like to deny this, so it's fun to point it out when they do it. If you need to get to his level to be given a chance, you're most men aren't making it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:08 PM
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Just because you did it doesn't mean any less uncommon. Also, we all know why you did it, and those men are rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:00 PM
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You think that guy is average looking? Below average?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:48 PM
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This is hilarious. I didn't run away from our last argument, you were just having a pedantic fit over my colloquial use of the "term" gulag. I didn't deem it worth my time to indulge your nonsense any further. Likewise, I'm not going to have a similar argument with you about the term FWB. It's a public forum, I obviously wasn't hiding from you. I just didn't want to talk to you. Still don't, if you can't believe it. Have a nice night, pups!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:19 AM
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They are used interchangeably. Women routinely refer to acquaintances as a friends, but all of a sudden the "friendship" is the important part of a fwb arrangement. Yeah, right. This is a woman splitting hairs to deflect from the casual nature of the arrangement, which it is, most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:14 AM
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This is only true if you believe most women are beautiful
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:25 AM
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Oh, sorry for the misunderstanding. Approx how long ago were you dating while presenting as a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:19 AM
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You're flaired as a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:15 AM
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Average men like the one in the video?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:10 AM
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The most attractive women almost universally pick tall men. It's so obviously highly valued by women, much more than you're implying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 10:19 PM
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Outside of cases where the guy has an extreme level of status (celebrity), it's height, status, and then money. Those are all actually just status, though. The reason women like tall men is because they they're taller and appear superior to other men. Having lots of money is just a signal for status. Edit: My bad, I thought it was of those three. Face is more important than height.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:57 PM
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I probably shouldn't let it bother me, but it would.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:44 PM
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A.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:38 PM
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Just don't put your face in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:19 PM
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If those are my only choices, I'll take the second option as long as we both understand the arrangement going in. The problem I have is when people do make-believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:13 PM
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What I'm saying is based on experience. Other women I've discussed the relationship with agreed she was displaying signs of a lack of sexual attraction to me. That was just one of the signs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:53 PM
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If it was something she liked doing with other men, but doesn't like doing with you, it is indicative of how she feels about you. If she liked performing oral sex on men before, but won't do it for you, that does show she doesn't feel the same enthusiasm for you. I agree that trying something once or twice doesn't mean she has to like it forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:48 PM
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Thank god you're helping us all stay pure by not doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:18 PM
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Don't lie, you've been DMing people dick pics again, haven't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:10 PM
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All of whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:01 PM
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The thing is they do like fuckboys. Fuckboy is just a term for man who won't commit to them anyways. It's meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:57 PM
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We all have interpret a combination of others words and actions to determine their true intentions. That's not a burden that's unique to women. Sounds like you're telling yourself lies, are flat out bad at reading between the lines, you're bad at setting boundaries, or some combination of all of these above. I know you're not going to like that last sentence, and you seem like the type to lob some personal insults at me in response. I just wanted to let you know ahead of time that you're wasting…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:54 PM
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Men and women are just living in completely different realities.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:41 PM
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We're talking about people who want to appeal the other gender, not people who are choosing to be single because they have no interest in the other gender. Women complaining about fuckboys, like the ones in the tweet posted above, don't have enough appeal to them men they like want to commit. They don't question their own appeal or lack thereof, they place the failing entirely on men. This is widely socially acceptable. While some men do blame women for their lack of desirability, it is not wide…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:39 PM
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I remember the names (assuming I ever knew them) and faces of every woman who has ever given me a compliment. I'm definitely not forgetting anyone I dated for a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:27 PM
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I say controversial and provocative things occasionally, but this isn't one of those occasions. What do you think I'm wrong about?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:24 PM
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You have agency. If you're not on the same page about marriage, but you stick around, that's obviously your choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:22 PM
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The thread's not about what men want. I'm also not upset women want attractive men. I made my original reply to point out that women are willing to date a man who earns less than them only in very specific circumstances. In most cases, women still expect men to outearn them. This thread might lead some people to believe otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:04 PM
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Part of the nature of being a fuckboy is not committing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:25 PM
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Every other woman in a relationship somehow managed to avoid them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:06 PM
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We're not talking about not offering anything else here, we're talking about money.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:19 PM
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I see physically attractive men everyday The overwhelming majority of women would not echo this statement. Most women say they rarely see men they feel are physically attractive. Somewhere around once a week or once a month is the most common sentiment. I'm not saying physical attraction is the only thing women need to want to be in a relationship with a man, everything else is just downstream downstream of it. You should talk more with women who are happy being single and are holding out for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:17 PM
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All of a sudden women have low standards for attraction now that it's convenient for the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:55 PM
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No he doesn't. He doesn't even have the self-respect to dump her ass the second she started talking that mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:52 PM
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If men can't land a partner, they're always encouraged by other men and women to look inward and work on themselves to make themselves desirable. They're responsible for their own destiny. When women can't find a partner, they do none of that. They just blame men for not choosing them as they are. Huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:47 PM
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Most women are attracted to their boyfriends and husbands. Obviously not. Women are constantly telling us that physically attractive men are extremely rare. Women rate most men below average (and yes they are the same men). 58% of the likes from women on Tinder go to 10% of male users. Women are saying it, and the data supports what women say. You should consider how attracted to average looking men you are, and then question why you think any woman would feel any differently about them than you…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:38 PM
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I'm glad you haven't had to settle. Obviously, most women are not hot enough to land Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:22 PM
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No, I get the point. If a guy isn't hot, he has to be offering something to entice women to settle for him and instead of one from vast sea of mediocre men available to her. No woman is assuming a provider role for one of those guys. It's too easy to find one she won't have to do that for.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:20 PM
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There aren't enough attractive men to go around for that. The average woman is not marrying a man she thinks of as sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:54 AM
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Was the lifestyle you shared with your ex more in line with what his income could support, or yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:48 AM
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This is what every woman in this thread who's answering yes is really saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:38 AM
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Women won’t go for short guys, they’re deluded and superficial, all women are going for the top 5% of men, they don’t put effort in and expect to be chased. I won’t deny that women like this definitely exist, but is treating them like a monolith advantageous for you? Yes, it helped me raise my standards. On this sub, I learned I lack the physical qualities required to inspire genuine attraction in a woman. I'm not interested in being settled for, so I've learned what to look for to avoid having …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:00 AM
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Everything that doesn't paint women as angels is misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:14 AM
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did not believe in multi-dating around, How did you determine this? Did you straight up ask, or were you more subtle about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:56 AM
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Maybe a decade ago. That's the first piece of advice any guy who's struggling to get matches is going to get these days, though. Most men don't lack good looking pictures these days, they're just not good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:36 AM
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look good, Ya don't say?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:24 AM
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What do you think makes a good dating app profile?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:03 AM
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Neutral and actively unattractive are living a more similar experience than guys who are actively attractive. The former are scrambling for scraps while the actively attractive guys are sitting down to an all you can eat buffet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:11 PM
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This is low effort bait, gecko. You're better than this (not really, but you know what I mean).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 09:58 PM
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Men don't have control over how women feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 09:46 PM
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We all know you're omitting the most significant barrier to entry here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 09:23 PM
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If you're not 6ft+, you're short.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 09:19 PM
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How did you reach that point is fascinating Women said it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 09:18 PM
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The OKC data was released in 2012 I think, and the same problems existed then. Men haven't changed and women's preferences in men haven't changed. Dating apps are just mainstream now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 08:23 PM
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At least half of the people commenting are men. The majority of women in the comments are criticizing her or acknowledging they've had similar relationships. A handful of women are expressing incredulity at not being attracted to their partner. There are women who never had to settle and can't imagine being the average woman's shoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 07:55 PM
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You have zero reason to believe it's fake other than you want to. It absolutely is the norm. Women are not attracted to most men but most men are in relationships. The only way those two things can be true is if women sacrifice attraction for the sake of companionship/money/whatever. You're also incorrect that it's not encouraged. There is plenty of pressure on both men and women to pair up. Less than there used to be, but it absolutely still exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 07:43 PM
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Are all the comments by other women talking about similar experiences fake too?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 06:57 PM
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Everything else was perfect. That's why. Women continue to deny this happens all the time, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 05:52 PM
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A pass from who? People I don't care about whose opinions I also don't care about?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 05:50 PM
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You want to go make your own echo chamber because you don't like this echo chamber? I like arguing with the women here. It's entertaining. Circlejerking is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 05:13 PM
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I'm particularly averse to fat arms on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:51 PM
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Lack of desire for the man they settled for. From day one it's something those women are doing to maintain the relationship, not because they want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:48 PM
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Women often say men often do poorly on apps because they don't get a chance to appeal to womens sense of attraction well in 2D. Everyone seems to agree match rates in real life speed dating events are just as abysmal as they are on apps. Makes ya think.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:38 AM
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Should we just stick our heads in the sand?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:11 AM
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No, most men have to lower their standards for hookups. Usually the women men have relationships with are the most physically attractive that they'll be able to get with. The Madonna/whore complex is different thing. I don't really get why some guys are like that. I think most guys want a woman who acts like a whore for them. I've only thought less of a woman because of what she won't do with me, not because of what she will.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:57 AM
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If there's no accurate data then you can't say men cheat a higher rates than the data we do have suggests any more than I can say women cheat more than the data we have suggests.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:39 AM
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A man being willing to NOT have sex with her for a certain length of time is a better indicator of interest. I'd actually say, outside of extreme cases, it's actually an indicator of desperation more than anything. The only reason I waited was because I had nothing else going on. I remember my thought process at the time and my first thought was "might as well see where it goes" rather than "she's so special, I've gotta give her a chance."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 11:53 PM
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Perhaps the reason you worry about it is a projection of your own feelings towards him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 11:39 PM
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Then you'd agree most women cheat as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 11:37 PM
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He obviously doesn't find her disposable since he's upset that she finds him mediocre and boring. If she was easy to replace as far as he's concerned, he'd just do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 11:27 PM
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Why are you assuming he also finds her boring and mediocre?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 10:47 PM
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guys who hook up but can't maintain long term relationships But they can get into relationships in the first place, i.e. they are seen as relationship material at some point. Their failings in the long run aren't relevant here. women who settle with a guy as attractive as their hookups Of course, the top 10-20% of women exists too. They match with men in their league long term. women who went from party girl to gold digger in their late 20s. It doesn't have to be that extreme. For most women it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 10:30 PM
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Doesn’t mean we see men who don’t meet those physical standards as “husband material.” They eventually do. That's why you hear women often say "looks matter less" as they get older or more motivated to settle down. When they're not so motivated, they're far more picky about looks. It's the guy(s) they really want vs the guy(s) they're eventually willing to settle for if they can't get the guy(s) they really wanted. It's being desired vs being acceptable. That's why husband material is seen as la…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 10:24 PM
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The disconnect is between what they say, and their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 10:14 PM
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Comes out naturally in conversation ime. I'm probably better at making people comfortable opening up to me than the average person, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 09:24 PM
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Most gun nuts who know what they're talking about dislike Reagan and recognize him as a gun grabber. Conservatives in general deify Reagan for other reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 09:23 PM
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Let's say you're the first woman who's expressed romantic interest in a guy in ~5 years. Are you still feeling chosen then?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 09:20 PM
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Because I've been in a relationship where I was not the guy she wanted to fuck. Relationships will always be easier for me to get than hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 09:04 PM
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Then you do look at it as competing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:57 PM
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I’ve never really thought about losing or winning versus other women. Because you're a woman and you're doing the choosing, not being chosen. Of course men are competing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:26 PM
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Hookup material can have all those things whenever he wants, he just has to choose it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:24 PM
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white knight to the rescue as per uzhe
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:32 PM
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Sometimes rejection is a blessing that only outside observers are capable of recognizing in that moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:27 PM
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Actual hurt feelings angry? Probably not. Sometimes sex is the cure for bickering, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:12 PM
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My cool wine (emphasis on the wine) aunt had kids, but they were 8-10 years older than me. My other aunt who had no kids and wasn't very fun at all. She wasn't terrible or anything, you could just tell she had no patience for kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:26 PM
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fifth
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:23 AM
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You got me there
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:18 AM
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A gulag is a prison millions of people were sent to on false charges. Labor being part of it is immaterial. I'm "dumb" And pedantic!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:48 AM
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Money doesn't protect you from being thrown in prison for whatever false charges. Are you ignorant of the history of gulags, or are you just playing dumb?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:41 AM
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And Trump sending to a de facto gulag doesn't? It's okay to just admit when you said some stupid shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:35 AM
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Buddy, things haven't even degraded to the point where Trump feels comfortable enough to even fire him. How is he at any real risk of being sent to a gulag?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:28 AM
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JPow isn't putting anything at risk by holding his ground. He was unimaginably wealthy before he was appointed to the Fed board and before he was Fed chair. Even if Trump tries to trump up charges against him, he has enough money to afford to lawyers that will outlast Trump. The only thing he really has to worry about is Trump sending an actual hit squad after him, which is would be a line even Trump hasn't really crossed to this point. JPow is doing the right thing, but he's not exactly a hero.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:20 AM
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We don't live in a just world where women need to hold themselves to the same stands they hold men to (most of the time).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:34 AM
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You ever wonder if it'll be like this forever? Like you've already passed up your best opportunities, or that your best chances at happiness are behind you? Like maybe it's actually all down hill from here?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 01:51 AM
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Just say tall then, dawg. I wish I was taller too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 01:42 AM
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Perfect physique? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 01:36 AM
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In a world where men are expected to be be okay with the woman they're taking on dates having casual sex with at least one other man, it's not unreasonable to expect she'd want to sleep with him within 3 dates. If men have to accept a woman has a FWB she's seeing after/in between dates with them, it's not unreasonable to expect her to want to sleep with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 01:32 AM
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It's the kind of love you dream about
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 01:05 AM
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Nah, there isn't a greater commitment to each other than having twin toilets in the bathroom so y'all can take shits together.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 12:59 AM
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You're now agreeing that physical desire is the most important thing. It makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 12:40 AM
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Between this and something you said the other day, you sound a little burnt out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 12:22 AM
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Why are you contradicting yourself now?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 12:10 AM
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If they're someone I care about, sure, I'm happy they're happy. Even then, someone else being happy isn't any consolation for not also being happy myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 12:05 AM
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Caring about physical desire =/= only caring about physical desire
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 12:01 AM
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I've had it where she enjoyed sex, and would actually initiate it a lot, but also didn't like kissing and wasn't very giving in bed. Some women very much can enjoy the mechanics of it while not mentally being that into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 11:57 PM
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It’s so funny that men are so obsessed with being desired physically as the foremost priority, and women so much want to be chosen for their non physical characteristics. I've never met a woman who expressed insecurity about whether I liked her as a person, but pretty much every single one I've ever talked to wanted to be validated for their looks. When women say they want to be chosen for their personality, they're saying they want the guy out of their league they wish would commit (the one who…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 11:38 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 08:40 PM
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What decade are you flying in?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 04:58 PM
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Further down Men overestimate their attractiveness to women. She's saying men are aiming too high because most men are below average. When women chase the top 10% of men, that's actually them mating assortatively because they're all above average, ya see. Slay kween, slay.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 02:29 AM
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Turns out you can just pay women to give you attention. I didn't know that until my friend Dan told me about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 10:26 PM
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What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 10:02 PM
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It's strange how people get really upset about ghosting after a date or three, but having an ongoing FWB situation while ostensibly dating others with the intention of finding a serious relationship is broadly acceptable. The people who justify the latter say you're not exclusive and you don't owe a person you've only been on a few dates with anything. Why is ghosting broadly looked down upon then? You don't owe them anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:53 PM
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Unfortunately, it is normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:36 PM
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Sounds like you're a low man doing the work the more senior employees didn't want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:50 PM
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If I was ever gonna do OLD again I'd hire a photographer
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:41 PM
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Looksmax Your mileage may vary*
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:50 PM
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Men arguing with women and vice versa > men arguing with men >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> women politely disagreeing over minor details with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:15 PM
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What's the best system?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:11 PM
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Hot chicks have better shit to do
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 01:49 PM
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When you're trying to be edgy, but you just sound ignorant and simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 04:40 PM
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It's a stupid person's idea of winning an argument
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 03:08 AM
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Liz mogging Pam bigly
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:12 AM
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I count calories for the first few days and then I just eat the same stuff every day for the most part until I reach my goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:36 PM
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A real alligator would be a lot cheaper (depending on your location) and a lot more exciting I think
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:46 PM
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You're the only one I've seen call it dating thus far
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 01:31 PM
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Swiping on dating apps isn't dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 01:26 PM
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Yeah, nothing gets past you ladies
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 01:12 PM
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Can't tell if you having to recycle these is a white pill or just an indication of your laziness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:10 AM
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I'm way more considerate, thoughtful, and aware of my surroundings than the average person. There are way too many people out there who seem to feel like they're the center of the fucking universe.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:08 AM
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Someone else posted this and reverse image searching it turns up nothing. I'd really like to know how they came up with those numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 01:03 AM
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You know those dudes that let their wife walk all over them and say shit like "happy wife, happy life?" That's an oofy doofy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 11:04 PM
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I admire your confidence
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:51 PM
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Dude, we're not dumb. You sure about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:19 PM
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This man gets right to the point, doesn't waste your time, and you're saying he doesn't care about your pleasure? Smh.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 06:44 PM
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When I was like 20 or 21 two people I worked with put each other in the hospital cutting each other up as a form of foreplay. That was pretty shocking at the time. Having dated around and being as online as I am, nothing really surprises me anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 06:36 PM
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Aren't you only interested in casual with men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 06:33 PM
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Yes it was. He literally asked about how you pleasure yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 06:25 PM
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So you're acknowledging men DO care about a woman's pleasure?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 06:19 PM
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What did you say?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 05:34 PM
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They have no one to blame but themselves for that. Being a doormat is a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 05:23 PM
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I simply refuse to wear baggy clothes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:54 PM
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I have no interest in a woman who looks like that, so I don't care what she wants. It's like being in the market for a car and worrying about what some guy's selling his boat for.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 12:59 PM
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When one gender is calling most of the other gender ugly, it's not shocking that the gender being called mostly ugly gets to thinking they're ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:24 PM
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It's weird how you never hear from the "plenty of women who like X" directly, it's always other women saying they exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:54 AM
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Not the most insane theory I've ever heard. I personally would lack confidence in dating if I was a deadbeat in the rest of my life past like 25 or so. I've never been able to not give a fuck like that, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:29 AM
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Why assume they're successful in part because they're hobos rather than an in spite of being hobos?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:11 AM
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I think it auto detects certain no-no words.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:56 PM
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Theory: Tattoos (in the West) historically were counter culture. As they've become more and more accepted, people have had to keep pushing the boundaries in attempt to maintain the edgy look they're going for.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:31 PM
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Politics is literally hollywood for ugly people
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:43 PM
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Can't say I've seen much of that, but I'll keep an eye for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:00 PM
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What's a baddie to you? Like a well above average looking woman? I don't see lots of men claiming to be well above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:43 PM
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Are you a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:26 PM
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How do you think a man should go about not being delusional?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:25 PM
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Seen a lot of complaints from women about men overestimating their looks. Q4W: Why does this bother you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:07 PM
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Or the way women think of some men The first woman has to work a lot harder to look as good as she does in that video. If you look at her other videos, her face changes in every one of them, which means there's some voodoo going on there. Also, the second woman has big natural boobs, which is a big deal to a lot of men. It's kinda like height, in that sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:47 PM
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Someone in here asked if having a crush is cheating yesterday. That's cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:35 PM
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I think women AND men find more random women attractive than random men. Kind of off topic, but are you confirming most women are married to men their not physically attracted to? This comment, for example, I’m not blind I know why the second woman is getting a higher rating, but it’s just for one trait. IMO they are both very beautiful and one is dressed up. If the first woman cold approached me, I wouldn’t think there’s NO WAY the second woman would be genuinely attracted to me. I'm not sure w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:30 AM
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I think that’s probably correct, at least purely off appearance. You might be the first woman I've ever seen acknowledge 80/20 before. Kudos. Online though it seems as though men rate women other women consider very beautiful lower than other women would. Women value effort from other women. For example, a morbidly obese woman who puts a lot of effort into her makeup, dress, and/or hair is still (allegedly) rated as beautiful by other women. To men, she's just a morbidly obese woman. Women say t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:55 AM
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From a practical standpoint, yes. Most women have more SMV and RMV than most men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:34 AM
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Then the OKCupid study is pretty much dead on. Women rate most men below average while men rate women on a standard bell curve. I think women overrate women and and men overrate men. Women underrate men and men rate women properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:28 AM
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I'd rather shit myself in public than be alone. I'd rather be alone than date someone who lives with her ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:54 AM
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/u/wild_squirrel_ The way they rate women is also really bizarre to me. I find it really hard believe that men and women really rate that differently and it’s not a “gotcha” used online. It doesn’t seem that misaligned irl, with a few exceptions. Women rate most men below average, do they not?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:44 AM
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I have no problem with it. I wouldn't want a spectacle (like something crazy public with a secret photographer and all that mess) of it most women want, though. Not because I'm insecure about her being the one asking, just because I'm not into that kind of thing. I would only be disappointed if I was planning to ask her and had a whole thing planned that was now ruined. I enjoy planning and executing grand romantic gestures.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:59 AM
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That’s lame af. You have no idea
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:35 PM
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There's seemingly an excitement aspect that relationship material guy inherently cannot fulfill for a lot of women. Also most women are able to get more attractive men for fwb/situationships than they can for relationships, so that probably has something to do with it as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:20 PM
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Soda
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 02:25 PM
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Not cheating, but I'd still break up with her. I want one of those women who only has eyes for me once she's in love with me. That's not too much to ask for, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 02:09 PM
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Who is "we?" Women are a monolith now?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 01:08 PM
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When would've been the proper time for her to inform him that she fucked those guys before? I'd be out, but at the end of the day, if she's the type to cheat she's gonna do it with somebody. If her relationship with those guys currently isn't crossing any lines, she's not really doing anything wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 02:21 AM
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Somebody's got a little crush, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 01:07 AM
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If men are actually as bad as women claim they are, and they care as little about their pleasure as they claim men are, I'm an exceptionally good lover. How skillful am I actually? Women are always bragging about they're ability to fake it, so how could I possible know? I can say I've never gone down on a woman, or given a woman an orgasm and had her say anything like "wow, no one's ever bothered to do that for me before." Women I was with who I don't think were all that physically attracted to …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 01:05 AM
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That is strange. I find it curious that you're only getting men who are on extreme ends of the lifestyle/political spectrum. If you're getting likes from men who look attractive, I wouldn't think you're ugly. You might be mid, though, no disrespect.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:53 AM
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The only men that match with me are extremely weird vegan environmentalist socialist alt-left bros. Are you in the pacific northwest?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 11:57 PM
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If she wanted to do it I'd be fine with that, but I wouldn't care enough to ask for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 11:47 PM
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When you receive oral sex, did you have to verbally and explicitly request it? How often/what percent of the time would you say you had to do this? Is this act mostly prompted, or unprompted? Depends on the woman. If I have to ask for a particular sex act, it usually wasn't worth asking because it's not going to be very enjoyable. All the women I've been with have had plenty of experience. They do what they want to do. Do you expect to have an orgasm when you have sexual relations with a woman? …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 07:33 PM
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I'm not talking about rejections after a date, I'm talking about whole relationships that were like that. And it's not just one woman, it's a pattern. I literally watched one of exes do things in an attempt impress a much hotter guy she'd started dating behind my back for the last couple months of our three year relationship. I watched her start to like things that she had previous expressed disdain and disgust towards me for liking. Women treat men differently based on how physically attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 05:26 PM
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Women have "starter boyfriends" too. Stop trying to act like women have any moral high ground there. People date and learn what they like and don't like over time. Pretty normal stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 02:25 PM
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Yes, it's called settling on the woman's part. And more and more women are opting out and rejecting such an arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 02:02 PM
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If you're just going to try to invalidate my experience, we'll just have to agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:57 PM
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No because then I have to be the one providing something more to compensate for being "kinda mid". That's what the average man has to do just to get the average woman's attention. I mean this as in, physical attractiveness doesn't determine personality or sexual chemistry. That's really not true. If you're physically attractive, that will have a significant impact not only on your personality, but how it's perceived. They're both part of a feedback loop the halo effect creates: Be good looking =…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 02:17 AM
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No I don't know about it. Most men I date are considered above-average looking. You don't think you'd act different if you were average yourself but still wanted an above average man? Average women don't want an average man any more than you do as an above average woman (I assume). I expect average-looking men to date average looking women, They do. Men want women more than women want men in general, which means average women have tremendous leverage over men in dating. They can afford to be mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 11:36 PM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:40 PM
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You know how women expect average men to do things to impress her in order for her to be willing to give him the time of day? When it comes to Chad, women are actually the ones doing things to try to impress him. Average men want the women they're dating to think they're special like women expect those average to think they're special. That doesn't happen because average men are a dime-a-dozen to women. They're always another one lined up right behind the last guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:37 PM
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What is with the daily threads related to bisexual men? That cohort seems greatly overrepresented here. Anyone know why?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:15 PM
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Then Grid is agreeing with OP
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:52 PM
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Simps don't love the women they simp for. That's just infatuation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:45 PM
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That it's not a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:45 PM
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Again, you speak with a lot of conviction about a group of people u only "hear" things about. Did your female friends told u they phisically dispase their partners? All of them? I doubt that. It's never come up, nor am I unhinged enough to talk about shit like this is in real life. I would say the happiest couples I've known throughout my life are above average people. And just because a guy is bold doesn't mean all women will find him unatractive (althoug that might just br an example) i have s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:42 PM
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So how can you claim doing these chores are an act of love if they're simultaneously the thing driving them toward divorce? You can't have it both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:32 PM
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The point is the treatment you can realistically expect to get, not about holding out for treatment that isn't meant for you. Whether she has or hasn't had flings doesn't matter. How people treat each other is based on how much they value them. Average men are a interchangeable and disposable to women. She doesn't need to treat him well because she can just go find another.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:36 PM
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That's not the point
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:24 PM
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If you want her to fuck like a freak, then 1) make sure she has the default libido for it and 2) be fucking arousing/sexy/hot. A man can't just choose be sexy or hot. You either, or you aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:56 PM
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Are these women happy, or miserable?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:53 PM
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Since when did slavish devotion become the definition "Chad treatment?" This is a strawman argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:52 PM
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I think an average woman has much less enthusiasm for her average partner than she does for her above average fling.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:49 PM
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Your example of ugly people who enjoy fucking their spouses are mon-monogamous people like swingers?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:10 PM
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Ask yourself why a woman would want to subject herself to someone she shudders at the thought of fucking. It’s uncomfortable/ painful to have sex you’re not into. Do you honestly believe the women of the 'Walmart couples' particularly enjoy fucking their husbands? Do ugly women like ugly men more than attractive women like ugly men? Doesn't really make sense for that to be the case. Money and sex aren't the only benefits of a relationship, and not everyone is happy being single for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:12 PM
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I wouldn't say I've ever dated a woman where I period of non-sexual intimacy and affection and we weren't also going on dates or romantic intention was not stated. I've never had a close friend become a lover. The pipeline has always been acquaintance to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:32 AM
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Am I tripping or does it look like he mogs her?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 12:54 AM
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Sounds pedantic to me. If I express clear romantic intent towards a woman, and we start going out on dates but not having sex immediately, are we ever really platonic according to how most people use the word? I don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 12:14 AM
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Surprised to see a woman acknowledge women feel that way
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:55 PM
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Post pics
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:40 PM
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Off shoring and automation will make line keep going up, don't worry
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:28 PM
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I think the issue is getting an opportunity to show how good of a husband they can be is significantly bigger issue. I'm not knocking women for that, but it's unfair to blame men for women not choosing them in first place
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:23 PM
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It's possible he didn't know up front and was too deep in to make rational decisions when he did find out, but I think a better bet would be that he had no other options. Having a scarcity mentality will cause you to learn lessons the hard way. I know that myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 08:16 PM
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She doesn't have discussions in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:52 PM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:34 PM
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Sometimes they say unhinged shit to get a strong reaction. That's realistic when it's something actually unhinged i.e. something you don't see every often. When you see the same things over and over again in different places, it's reasonable to believe it's a common sentiment. The things OP listed are the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:27 PM
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Understandable
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:19 PM
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That's fucked up
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:12 PM
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A lot of guys are adding 2 inches, yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:10 PM
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What has responding to extremism with more extreme stances to do with not being able to think indepentently? Extremism triggers more extreme pushback, that's it. In this case it's men vs women but you see the exact same thing in political spaces for instance. Because you said women are only reacting to men, not forming unpleasant or unflattering ideas of their own. So what are you implying here? That it's not only in places where they're being provoked by extreme rhetoric from men or where argum…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:55 PM
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Q4W: Guy asks you to go throw rocks at cars with him from an overpass as a first date. You down?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:42 PM
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I think you switched misogyny with misandry tbh The idea that women can't think independently sounds like misogyny to me. Just because those ideas don't paint them in glory doesn't mean they can't have them. some female spaces do the same thing but the focus is men instead of women No, it's virtually all women's only spaces. You can find women talking about the things OP listed on virtually every female related subreddit. r women, askwomen, askwomennocensor, etc. These are ostensibly not man hat…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:40 PM
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Idk about that, a lot of women talking about having to find reasons to like a guy like the woman above.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:27 PM
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Would you agree most women like but don't feel attraction towards their partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:01 PM
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Would you agree the woman he replied to is as wel?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:45 PM
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I think that was true 20 years ago. Now I think women are much more focused on looks because they need the other things men have to offer less and less. Back then, women were more open to settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:38 PM
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My standards are not and never have been Stacy. If I lowered my standards any further, we'd be talking about women I'm not attracted to. I can control my taste in women as much you can control your taste in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:08 PM
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Therefore I conclude every many has a chance of being viscerally desired by some woman. Just taking whatever woman will have you would mean having no standards
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:58 PM
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We know that most women like and are attracted to men because they keep dating men. Obviously women see other benefits from relationships with men beyond physical attraction. Most are dating men they find to be mediocre looking, by their own definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:46 PM
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I choose to believe what women say with the safety of anonymity rather than what they present to polite society.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:34 PM
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rather than vulnerable sharing Women bond with each other like this. They do not bond with men like this. I don't think all women necessarily find a man being as emotionally vulnerable as repugnant as some men believe, but I don't believe being emotionally vulnerable has ever deepened my relationship with a woman, be that relationship platonic or romantic. I've found women kind of suddenly display a lack of emotional depth or understanding in those cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:21 PM
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Because the arguments and claims that are made by men on here are so extreme, you get very extreme views from women in return. It's not just here. If you go to women's only spaces, they're echoing the sentiments that OP is talking about. It's kind of misogynist to assume every thing women say and do is a reaction to what men say and do, don't you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:16 PM
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Lower than average, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:34 AM
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I don't think that's true for most women. I think that's something women like to think about themselves. Also, like I said, women say it in scenarios were love goggles aren't present yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:33 AM
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We know too much about each other now due to social media, and it just amplifies and reinforces whatever negative experiences we've had.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:05 AM
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I don't really believe that either, but I've seen women say it to men are who younger and single and worried about not being able to attract a woman anymore without hair, not necessarily men in relationships. Also, what if he doesn't like wearing hats?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:00 AM
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I appreciate you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:57 AM
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wheww soo if she wants exclusivity while you both wait together , that’s a no for you ig Yeah. I waited once I should've seen it as a bad sign, so never again.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:35 AM
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I feel like I can't really emotionally invest in anyone at all until exclusivity is established, because they could just as easily be just as far along with someone else and decide to choose them. In that situation I don't even want to be the guy she chooses tbh. It just saps all the excitement of early dating out of it for me. Things are what they are, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:29 AM
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Women won't give men the benefit of the doubt that they won't call her a whore, and men won't give them the benefit of the doubt they're not just being used for attention/free meals. 🤷🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:14 AM
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I accept it as a reality, but I'm not a fan, personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:09 AM
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Probably not because I'm vetting for attraction too, but I can't rule it out if I met a virgin or something (not that I'm at all looking for that). Not going to wait until marriage or anything, though. I can't see myself asking for exclusivity until sex happens 99% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:08 AM
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Dunno, I went from obese to fit in my mid-late 20s and my league didn't change. It's still mostly overweight women with a sprinkling of normal BMI women, most of which have low self-esteem or are otherwise ruin-my-life crazy. Like a normal average looking normal BMI woman still isn't looking my way. I don't discourage guys to get fit. It's been great in a million other ways for me. It just didn't move the needle for me with women, sadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:59 AM
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When I either know she's dating other people or I don't know she isn't, it's gotta happen within like 3-5 dates. I gotta know I'm not just another guy taking her on dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:21 AM
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I’m not even talking about big differences in looks within a couple. Of course no one likes those. The thing is, most women consider themselves above average, so they're much more likely to feel they are dating down more than they actually are. But I think the happiest couples seem to be the ones that are pretty much looksmatched I'm not seeing this, personally. The happiest couples I know are consistently the most attractive. The average people have pretty mediocre relationships just based on w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:30 AM
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What that sentence means is that in our early ages we, like men, are more hormonal so we will just get a crush on guys based in their looks, not caring much if he is just iut of jail etc, but when time passes and brain matures "looks dont matter than much" so women focus more in personality, as much studies suggest. If a woman is looking to settle down for an LTR, most of the time she has to expand her dating pool beyond the men who inspire physical attraction like the one who might've just gott…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:19 AM
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Where are the stats for that info? I dont know Rick... Women say it all over social media. They even talk about how they're pressured to do it by friends and/or family. I've talked to lots of women about it. It happened to me, which is what made me so invested in the top. I'm always surprised by women who say they've never heard of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:10 AM
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Men here are always mad af at the idea that the women they can get are beneath their own looks. You're right, that's true. However, I disagree that women don't complain about looks also, but they do usually include behavior and other things with those complaints. Women are more content to date down in looks a bit as long as his behavior qualities are superior. Or maybe if he offers money or security or lifestyle. I think less and less so, and I don't agree that the ones that do are content. They…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:02 AM
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Are there some men who are unhappy with what they could get? Sure. I think men can date a 5 and be happy, though. I don't believe women can. I think most women consider themselves above average, are much more likely to feel like they're dating down, and resent that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:52 AM
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He was trying to find a childless woman his age That's an insane ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:35 AM
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I mean, men aren't the ones who giving up on dating in droves because there aren't enough physically attractive women to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:17 AM
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plenty fit guys may have other things that make them unattractice. So you're agreeing with me that being fit doesn't mean your match/league isn't overweight women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:12 AM
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I'm just saying the women who are exceptions to the rule don't matter because there is no way I can know if any individual woman is the exception. Your reply didn't upset me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 11:30 PM
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I've learned giving people the benefit of the doubt only get opens you up to getting hurt. You're operating with the same mentality, why shouldn't men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 11:20 PM
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That's fair. I wouldn't want to invest more than about a month into someone if it doesn't look like it's going anywhere by then.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:38 PM
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How long are you usually waiting?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:09 PM
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I assume they were all easy for someone. If they're not easy for me, they're not attracted to me. 🤷🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:08 PM
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I’ve heard it depends on if Chad is free after the date or not. Women do usually have a FWB while they're dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:04 PM
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Yeah, it happens. You do date like things, but you ask them to do stuff like you would a friend. You're kinda just hanging out and also fucking and eventually you're in a relationship. I had a situation that was like that, but she eventually stopped hanging out with me until I formally asked her on a real date because she needed that validation or whatever. Took me like two weeks to figure it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:55 PM
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Depends on where you live probably.. In America where normal BMI women are scarce, I don't agree. Women care more about face and height than they do about physique. 9 times out of 10 they'll choose a chubby tall guy with a decent face over an average height/average face fit guy. This is gonna leave some fit guys with no option but fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:48 PM
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some fairly well put together woman. Interesting you chose this wording instead of attractive. You're basically saying a man with good physique will often have to settle for an overweight woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:49 PM
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I accept your concession
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:18 PM
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Gotcha, so it's like I said. If the money's not being spent on you, it's being wasted.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:15 PM
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What context are women telling you this in? Women say it all the time online. That’s because they really like the person and hope attraction will come eventually (which sometimes does happen). Physical attraction doesn't just happen. It's either there, or it isn't. What percentage of women do you think are in these groups? Do you genuienly think they are so widespread? I have literally never heard of these groups outside of red pillers talking about them in this sub. Do you personally know many …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:12 PM
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Can afford it =/= putting it before more important things. Isn't traveling an expensive hobby?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:04 PM
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Ah, that's what I figured. If he's spending his money on anything but you, it's being spent poorly. "His money is our money, my money is money."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:01 PM
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A combination of what women say and how they behave. Most women say they hardly ever encounter a physically attractive man. Maybe once a month, once a year, or in some cases only a handful of times in their entire life. Most women acknowledge they have dated or tried to date men who were not attractive to them. What could possibly be their motivation for that other than attractive men being rare and hard to lock down? Why do women need "are we dating the same guy" groups in every city? Because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:59 PM
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I don't really see men saying that, but I'm sure there are men who have to make the same compromise. We just have more testosterone that makes us feel sexual attraction to a wider range of women. I don't think women only have duty sex. I think women have mostly duty sex with partners they're not physically attracted to. Women are fully capable of enjoying sex, there just aren't many men around who they can enjoy sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:41 PM
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I feel like repeatedly forcing yourself to have sex you don’t want with someone very quickly kills any kind of emotional connection you have with someone and builds resentment. It depends. Some women can divorce the physical sensation from the person who's providing it. It's an inferior experience, to be sure, but not necessarily an unpleasant one. Humans are good at adapting and coping with their surroundings. Also, many marriages involve very little sex. It's not uncommon for men to complain a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:28 PM
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Yes, absolutely. Women have done it for centuries in order to survive. Nowadays, in the developed world, women largely don't need men to survive, but many still see benefits of a relationship with a man that makes the duty sex worth it. The ones who don't feel that way are choosing not to pair up, and we're seeing a growing number of those women currently. Women often admit this without really admitting it. Have you ever heard a woman say "as I got older, looks started to matter less?" Those are…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:23 PM
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That is partially women's fault. Women still frequently say they want to be friends first, so I can see why men get that idea. I also had an argument with one such woman here the other day where she was claiming to be completely unaware of women getting upset when a guy tries to date a female friend. I think a part of the problem is, a lot of women seem to have a looser definition for the word "friend" than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:44 PM
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If you're in the habit of ascribing the most sinister possible motives to men at all times, then sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:29 PM
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"You have a different view of relationships than most people."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:21 PM
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I get that, but I think that behavior is less likely to come from a friend. And let's be honest, the decision to have sex with someone is not based on how they feel about you. It's not like that strategy really works.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:19 PM
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Is that the only reason to have a romantic relationship? I'm not gonna play this game with you. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:17 PM
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I think the subject matter is too contentious and inherently emotional for that to be possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:15 PM
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You apparently have a different view of relationships than most people
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:12 PM
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Sounds like one of those guys who likes to announce how alpha and masculine as much as possible, but is actually neither. "Playing with your kids instead of working like a REAL man? Loser!"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:08 PM
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They want to talk about how they have their cake and have eaten it too. I agree they like to come here and try to brag (especially the women), but they're also purposely trying to provoke others when they do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:03 PM
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I think it's much more likely she's just trolling. That's only way anyone can deny being shorter is a disadvantage for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 03:52 PM
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It would seem the majority of women disagree wrt to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 03:47 PM
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There are trolls on the other side too that balance them out. At the end of the day, this sub mostly exists for people to fling their shit at each other, not have productive conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 03:18 PM
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What an incredibly childish attempt at a rebuttal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 03:14 PM
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People confessing their romantic feelings aren't just trying to have sex. Most people consider a romantic relationship more valuable than both.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 03:09 PM
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I hear the rest of what you're saying and doubt your last sentence very much. I assumed you were agreeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 02:45 PM
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I mean, no one wants to be, but it is typically part of the commitment of marriage that you'll be there for them in the good times and bad times. If you're up front about it, it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 02:34 PM
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PPD women in particular strongly prefer feminine men. You also have to remember some of them are just talking shit/trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 02:25 PM
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I mean, they're redditors at the end of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 02:19 PM
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Why do you care if it's expensive if they have the money?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 02:13 PM
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Sounds like you ultimately wouldn't stick around if you had to care for your partner regardless of how it happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 02:12 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 01:40 PM
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I'm not moving the goalposts. The stats are currently trending towards 80/20 or worse, but there are still a ton of women alive who did not have full autonomy to choice. Obviously they're not going to accurately reflect 80/20 (if they ever will) for a few more generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 01:37 PM
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I don't get this. Isn't that how relationships are supposed to work? You meet a girl, be friends with her, get to know her, grow feelings for her, ask her out, get married, have 2.5 kids. If she really likes you, she's not going to let things develop into a platonic friendship very easily, if at all. If she does, she never really saw you that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 01:31 PM
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Older women still needed a man to survive. You can't compare them to women with total freedom of choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 01:15 PM
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The bloop cycle everyone: It's not happening It's not happening to extent that you say it is <=== You are here Of course it's happening, everyone knows this is how it's always been. Who lied to you about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 01:10 PM
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Ok then neither are you bitches. Duh
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 01:08 PM
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I put in my time. 🤮
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:23 PM
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Damn the libsoftiktok girl had a bit of a glowup, huh? Wasn't she fat before?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:22 PM
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I'm begging for just one(1) woman to DM me her cashapp so I can send her money.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:20 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:15 PM
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You're not meant to do anything with them. They're like confetti for the getting pussy olympics.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:23 PM
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Splitting hairs there, aren't we?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 09:01 PM
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You baitin? He looks like every dude who's neither fat nor scrawny? Of course it's fine. Women aren't that picky about physique is the point. It's face and height and everything else extremely negotiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 08:53 PM
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Could just be poor ab genetics or trauma to the area given that scar the way he's pushing down his skin with his thumb. You'd probably know better than I would, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 06:57 PM
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The fact that you think he's "in shape" is kind of my point. He's making zero effort to look that way. The consensus seems to be just don't be chubby or scrawny. Making any effort beyond that isn't moving the needle.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 06:50 PM
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Very pissed I wasn't invited into the DoD Signal chat before the closing bell on Friday
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:54 PM
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Idk, the guy pictured above looks completely untrained, and two other women are saying that's what women want, so Idk. What's not enough fat/what's too much?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:47 PM
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I wouldn't even say he looks active at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:40 PM
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Would agree that there's not much more a man can do to improve his physical appearance if he grooms/dresses well and isn't* overweight?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:39 PM
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What do women mean when they say those things?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:33 PM
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The dude pictured doesn't even look like he lifts, tho
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 04:57 PM
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Men usually avoid the decent women (even the attractive ones) because they think all women cheat and are gold diggers who don't deserve emotional availability. How does thinking all women cheat and are gold diggers cause them to avoid the good ones? Wouldn't that lead them to place a higher value on the supposed "good ones?"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 04:52 AM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 03:02 AM
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Nothing good, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:57 AM
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Idk, I think I've had a pretty average dating life. I wasn't always the weirdo I am now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:42 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:33 AM
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I think it only suggests they couldn't walk the walk. Call it desperation, hypocrisy, whathaveyou. I don't think simping or settling makes you a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:05 AM
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I'm not sure what I did that got under her skin so bad. Last night, she revealed she's at least in her 40s (probably mid 50s) in a roundabout way. I said that given the fact that she exclusively dated before online dating was mainstream, her opinions on modern dating are worthless. Then we argued over whether OLD was mainstream before Tinder, and I posted stats that proved it was not. That seemed to really send her off the deep end for some reason because she spent the morning downvoting and rep…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:02 AM
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I can't tell you how many times I've heard "just be confident, bro" or "it's not your looks, it's your personality."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:24 AM
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This take brought to you by laziness and a lack of imagination
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 11:28 PM
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I don't follow. Care to elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 11:17 PM
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Well, cheating is always justified when a woman doesn't it don'tyaknow. In reality. we don't really know a ton about their relationship or them personally, and I don't really think it's any of our business/anything we should really care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 10:58 PM
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Well that's shitty
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 10:56 PM
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Why does it upset you then?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 10:11 PM
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I was thinking about this the other day. New money seems generally more fun to be around because they're less likely to be stingy and stuffy. On the flip side, they tend to be more obnoxious. I'd rather live next to old money than new money, generally speaking. I'd rather hang out with new money.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 10:01 PM
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I don't think personal style is very important in the grand scheme of things, but some folks are more self-centered than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 09:31 PM
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I thought gay men dominated the fashion industry?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 09:23 PM
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ThatBitchA blocked me! I win!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 09:21 PM
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I'll acknowledge some dudes have an unhealthy relationship with porn. I do think jerking it without virtual stimulus is an inefficient and inferior experience, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 09:18 PM
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Their anger seems to stem from them thinking Brady chose football and 25-year olds over Super G. A lot of them probably fear their own husbands leaving them to chase younger women, they're neglected by a man they feel works too much, or some combination of the two. It's ironic, because women specifically like a man who's ambitious and has options.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 09:07 PM
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Complaining wasn't your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 08:55 PM
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Both do it for different reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 08:51 PM
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Why should they? To alleviate the insecurities of women? Men are told to suck it up in regard to their insecurities all the time. What's good for the goose...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 08:48 PM
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I gotta know what the connection between an opinion on whether dating sites were mainstream pre-Tinder and being single is. In 2013, only 11% of Americans had ever used a dating app. I guess my lack of ignorance towards reality is why I'm single.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:57 AM
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This wouldn't be that bad of a retort if it didn't take you an hour to come up with it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:17 AM
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No one says that. None of the dating sites pre-Tinder were mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 02:51 AM
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Women in the medical field: Never (again).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 02:29 AM
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I would assume she felt comfortable posting this because she has been led to believe that is the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 02:29 AM
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Was it an insult, or an observation? My cleverness speaks for itself 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 02:12 AM
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Probably a neo-nazi too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 02:02 AM
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Jokes on you because even those with AARP cards can still be students. 🙄 You're right, all the best jokes always start with "wellll aaackshuuuually 🤓." Everyone knows that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 02:01 AM
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Bet you're closer to an AARP card than you are to a student ID. It's funny how it's always the oldest among us are always the most in disbelief of the experiences of the people here that are younger. Almost like you're out of touch and have no idea what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 01:49 AM
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Damn, you're old as fuck, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 01:42 AM
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This is consistent with the idea getting cheated on indicates a flaw in the man rather than a flaw in the character of the woman. How gynocentric and women are wonderful of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 01:37 AM
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Where does he say that? In his post he says he "mainly" looks for STRs, leaving the door for something long term at least slightly ajar. That is entirely consistent with his profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 01:34 AM
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On the apps it will read "looking for short term, open to long." If you interpret that any other way than exactly how it reads, that's on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 01:30 AM
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He does. I think he's too polished looking to be considered trustworthy, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 12:20 AM
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Newsom probably has the most connections with the right people in the party and the right donors. That tips the scales heavily in his favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 12:18 AM
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You're just full of terrible takes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 12:03 AM
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Who is saying Pulp Fiction is worse than Kill Bill? PF is one of the best movies of all time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 12:00 AM
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Sounds like he's letting women make assumptions about his intentions, not lying about them. If you j-walk, do you turn yourself in to the police?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 11:48 PM
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You're forgetting the life experience component. Obviously that's a huge part of it. It's also not so much women saying nasty things, it's just women speaking frankly about what they like and what they don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 11:38 PM
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No, I acknowledge exceptions to the rule exist. That just comes down to luck, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 11:35 PM
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I mean, these are just women talking to other women. They're not pill spaces or anything like that. I don't think they're bad people, either. I think the people who virtue signal about not being shallow and all that are far far worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 10:55 PM
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I had a really bad experience early on in my romantic life, and talking to and reading the opinions of women online since have only provided an explanation as to why that happened. Women often think it's men propagandizing other men, when in reality, I just listened to women. I really don't care much what other men think.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 10:36 PM
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I'm sure you can talk about the first two things. The other one might get too much into looks for the mods liking.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 10:26 PM
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Perma or temp ban?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 10:24 PM
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They banned him for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 09:15 PM
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So what's there to discuss that we're not already discussing (to the extent that we're allowed to)?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 09:10 PM
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Coulda fooled me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 09:07 PM
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You're always in the looks thread for the short time it's up every two weeks, so clearly you like discussing that so-called "dead horse topic" yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 09:02 PM
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They're absolutely aware of the issue. If they were simply incapable of fixing the problem, they'd be more lax on enforcing the rule in the daily thread or elsewhere in the sub. Instead, any talk of looks is rapidly removed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 09:00 PM
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If we can't talk about looks at all, people better damn well not be able to shit up the thread talking about their perversions. There must be a million other places that those discussions would be more welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 08:58 PM
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Comment thread below was removed with no explanation. I wonder why the mods are so intent on this sub having no looks-related discussions. Could the mod who removed that comment on why? edit: Thought I deleted this, but since people replied I guess I'll leave it up until I inevitably get banned for questioning the hall monitors here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 08:47 PM
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As long as everyone is aware of the arrangement, I see nothing wrong with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 08:33 PM
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3 days is an AI reddit-wide ban. Mods here would never ban her, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 08:29 PM
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Trump liked him. Birds of a feather (conmen) flock together.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 11:40 PM
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I'd rather have some clinginess as opposed to aloofness. Too much is too much, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 11:38 PM
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In my experience they stop being clingy once they've found someone to monkey branch to.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 11:20 PM
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That phrase is referring to women never truly being committed and always looking to trade up. It has nothing to do with clinginess.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 11:15 PM
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Where are you getting the idea that their feelings towards clingy women have changed?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 11:08 PM
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I don't think the majority of the Times Square crowd on NYE are NYers. Most NYers I know try to avoid TS as much as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 11:04 PM
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How much detail? Are you sharing things the guy might be embarrassed by?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 10:23 PM
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Everyone is entitled to a vacation, just don't make empty promises. I was told things would be done on a certain timeline, and it's clear they're not going to get done anywhere close to on time. The most grating part is, I'm dealing with two parties who don't even celebrate Christmas.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 10:00 PM
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Replying to you is more than enough for today
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:55 PM
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Looks like mostly Asians. Chinese nationals?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:46 PM
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I'm bored
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:44 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:43 PM
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That's not relevant to this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:40 PM
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Drowning might be hyperbole, but the average woman gets far more attention than the average man. Women also have a tendency to say they get no attention, but when you drill down on it, they frequently have multiple men hitting them up at any given time. It's just mostly coming from men they don't want. I didn't say they were the bad guy, I just said they don't really think about it. That includes thinking about your looks, because if they did, they'd immediately realize them not being attracted …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:36 PM
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Women fall in love with fictional characters all the time, so it's fine to make the comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:30 PM
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They're both insecure, mentally ill guys. They both have no game. A guy like Tony gets laid by paying for sex or by being a minor local celebrity. Clavicular gets laid based on his looks and being a minor internet celebrity. I'd give the edge to Clavicular.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 08:43 PM
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Seems like dating isn't even worth the effort anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 08:32 PM
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Most don't really think about it tbh. They just assume everyone's drowning in attention from the opposite sex like they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 08:24 PM
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That's quite the baseless deflection, I must say.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 08:19 PM
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I'm really proud of everyone here for not caring to ask what it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:23 PM
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What's the upside?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:17 PM
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Why is one any worse than the other? If men are supposed to accept that their wives probably won't be physically attracted to them, why is it so awful a man might not like her personality all that much?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:02 PM
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Because it doesn't make a different. Women are not responding based on how clever/thoughtful/interesting your first message was.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:27 PM
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I hate how this time of year slows everything down. Can't get anything done between the 12/23 and 1/5. GET BACK TO WORK!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:23 PM
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Idk, but I do know they all suffer from mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:11 PM
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You say women fear being chosen because they not too physically unattractive rather than attractive. Why do women have that fear if they're also doing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:16 PM
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She is not in a position to be talking about anyone else's looks imo
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:55 PM
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So your answer to my question is yes
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:53 PM
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For serious commitment? I'd rather date a normal weight woman with an average face over a beautiful woman with a kid, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:49 PM
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The reality is, even a mid single mom has better dating options than an above average man. By "mid" you mean a woman who is normal weight and not ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:35 PM
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However, what I would say is that women fear being chosen for simply not being too physically unattractive Is this not what most women do given they only find a tiny percentage of the male population physically attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:17 PM
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We know you're usually ditching items on the checklist for lack of a better option, not because the options available are so great.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:49 PM
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I think women are more likely to hold out longer for perfect (someone who checks every single box) and resent having to settle for less than perfect more.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:40 PM
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13 years ago was before swipe apps and before dating apps became mainstream. You dated in a completely different world. I know because I also dated in that world.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:29 PM
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I'd say just get off the apps at that point and find an alternative. I've yet to see any options have a higher success rate. Either you toil away on the apps or you toil away at widening your social circle, going to singles events (mostly dudes), doing things you otherwise don't really want to do to meet women, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:27 PM
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It's reasonable as long as she's also financial stable. I had different expectations for my SO at 20 than I do now too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:53 AM
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I've run into women in their 30s that have very aggressive timelines. Not usually 6 months, but expecting to be engaged by the end of year one isn't uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 11:41 PM
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I thought he was a Yuyu alt
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 10:12 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:22 PM
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Saw a woman wearing something like this a while back and thought it took the cake for tacky <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 09:00 PM
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Ain't got no room for bitches in my life
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:44 PM
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I just looked and we've been averaging 400-800 comments forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:55 PM
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No? Even average looking women will have guys lining up to fuck them. Doesn't really matter though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:54 PM
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I find many are seeking a one way relationship where they sit around and are waited on. "Princess treatment" or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:44 PM
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Why would you want to be laid off when you already do nothing for more money?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:25 PM
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many men nowadays can’t or don’t want to. Women don't want to cook, clean, raise children, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:24 PM
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You sound like a prime candidate for being laid off next year
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:20 PM
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The whole purpose of this post was to stroke yourself and call yourself pretty, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:16 PM
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I think people just don't care that much about GG these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:52 AM
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Post something interesting more, complain less
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:11 AM
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God I wish that was me
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:09 AM
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The mods that are currently active don't want to deal with it. It's combination of them not wanting to be bothered, and the subject matter offending their sensibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:01 AM
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Why is grandpa an asshole? Nothing he said sounds wrong to me even if it did rattle the kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:33 AM
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There are way fewer men who would reject a woman just for being tall than there are women who'd reject a man just for being short. 6'2'' women are also less than 1% of the female population.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:05 AM
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I don't mean roll over. I think they should stick to their agenda. I think they should simply disingenuously kiss his ass when they talk to him. Maybe make a small concession here or there in exchange for a larger concession from him. All he cares about is appearances. The deal can be good for him/the US or the deal can be shit, all he cares about is being able to make a deal. Trying to embarrass him or antagonize him publicly is counterproductive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:00 AM
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I think women prioritize physique less than men do. For example, I think a lot of women would rather date a tall chubby guy than a short fit guy. Some short guys are naturally gonna be left without a non-overweight dance partner in a country like the US if that's the case. Did that guy you mentioned just immediately start monologuing on his favorite conspiracy theories with everyone he met?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 01:53 AM
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I find that stuff so corny. If I was a Canadian or Mexican, I'd want my head of state to verbally stroke Trump's ego and get whatever concessions they can from him until he's gone. Trying to stick it to him might make for a sugar high politically, but that's pretty much all it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 01:43 AM
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This is way too realistic of a take for reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 01:25 AM
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Oh, is that Pierre? I honestly don't even know what the banker they elected looks like. I figured it was some silly thing they did as a protest of the Trump admin's rhetoric towards our neighbors.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 01:23 AM
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Chat, is this real?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 01:19 AM
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Q4W: If a man is fit, is he asking too much if he wants a partner who is not overweight?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 01:15 AM
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A block in the middle of an argument is the ultimate concession
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:28 AM
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I've already thought about why I didn't like them before I ghosted them. At that point, whatever I do is just a formality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:42 PM
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Kinda illustrates how pointless the arguments here are, really. You say you do X when you actually do Y No [gender] doesn't do that Here's proof That's fake
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:38 PM
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Make a dating app profile
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 06:55 PM
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60 comments a day! Holy shit!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 06:45 PM
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It's entirely based on what you can attract consistently
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 06:27 PM
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Last I heard, it'll probably never happen again.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 06:15 PM
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I'm the last person who should give advice on the subject. I'm basing what I said on advice I've seen or advice others have given me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 06:07 PM
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That's sounds normal unless I'm misunderstanding you. When I hear taking it slow, I think of situations where it's several months of dating/acting like a couple and one party still doesn't want to label it (which is almost always a bad sign).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 06:01 PM
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They give advice based on what's attractive to them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:59 PM
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What's the point of taking it slow wrt everything else if you've already emotionally fallen for the person? In theory, it shouldn't hurt any more or less if it doesn't work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:00 PM
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Supply meets demand I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 03:46 PM
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He looks like he's wearing eyeliner and eyeshadow. His eyebrows are thin and kinda shaped in a feminine way as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 01:42 PM
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Depends on the city. If you're not good looking, you'll only do worse in cities like NY and LA because the competition is so much more fierce. If you're from bumfuck Indiana and you want to move to Indianapolis for a larger dating pool, that might be worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 03:09 AM
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It's more likely they'll assume confidence. Confident ugly people are arrogant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 01:59 AM
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No one's taste is for ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 01:54 AM
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They assume she has low self-esteem
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 01:43 AM
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Most women under like 50 worry about their appearance a lot. Some men do as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 01:14 AM
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Dude has no self-respect, but expects her to respect him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 12:48 AM
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This dude's living in 2026, maybe even 2027
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 09:54 PM
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Yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 09:18 PM
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The south tends to be a few decades behind the rest of us, so the women down there haven't figured out looks matter yet. A fat guy in dirty sweat stained clothes and a 144 month note on an F-350 King Ranch is good enough for a 105 lb 8.5/10 blonde.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:43 PM
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It's inherently a power thing when one side is much more picky is so because they have a much wider array of choices available to them. Yes, ultimately a guy also has to agree to be with a woman, but he's operating from a much weaker bargaining position. She might be the only woman who's choosing him this year, or for the next 5 years, or 10 years, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:19 PM
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Why should anyone be happy for her when she spends most of her time here shitting on people less fortunate than she is?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 01:47 PM
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I see a lot of dudes online lament the fact that they never got to have a high school romance. If you go read the dating over 30/40/50 subreddits, you'll see there are tons of single middle aged women who are still acting like they're in high school. You didn't miss out on anything!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:16 PM
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The women who do that seem to get off on being able to do that. It's just an ego boost. If they're doing it for the free meal, they're usually trashy and poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:52 PM
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Don't take the bait, fellas.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:13 PM
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I mean you're at least not gonna have to be fat yourself most likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:10 PM
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This is more of a list of things you can try if you're struggling to find someone you want who also wants you, not what's actually required. If you're going to have high standards (non-overweight woman in the US), though, you're likely going to have to meet a certain standard yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:01 PM
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No, but they do agree on which features are unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:55 PM
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I always assumed it was doable within 3-5 years because I got to 135 OHP in less than a year. I've honestly never lifted for much longer than 2 years consistently, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:38 PM
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2 plates OHP, 3 plates bench, 4 plates squat, 5 plates deadlift sub 30 minute 5k
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:51 PM
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I didn't settle in either direction, and I'm not the only woman in the world to be like this. Most women don't have that luxury if they don't want to single for life. There are only so many physically attractive men to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 02:58 PM
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Did it ever really work? It was always a numbers game, and always remember if you got 1 in 100 women to even give you their number that was considered acceptable. That's no worse than OLD for most guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 02:45 PM
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Here isn't the only place that strategy works.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 01:50 AM
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How are these contradictory? edit: Also, it's insane how many women and men in that thread are trying to negotiate or shit on his preferences. When it's women with ridiculous preferences men are told by men and women that they're non-negotiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 03:06 PM
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I'll never understand how that kind of rejection doesn't end the relationship right there. I'd be so hurt that I'd never be able to look at her the same way again.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 11:28 PM
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Didn't last though
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 10:49 PM
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Hobbit
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 09:21 PM
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Every other consumer product just gets worse, why not OLD? They probably even want Chad to feel like he has to pay for premium.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 08:18 PM
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He personally attacked someone. He didn't name a name, but it was obvious who he was talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 08:00 PM
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I still understood at some level he was objectively pretty average physically. Yeah, this is why I have no interest in this type of situation
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 07:58 PM
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I would argue most women sort most men into the ugly category. The pool of men who are even slightly physically attractive (the ones with the ability to grow on them) to women is still quite small.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 07:55 PM
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>rizz meanwhile, Buzz's gf <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 07:42 PM
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The halo effect exists for both genders
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 06:27 PM
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I don't think that really works if both are hot. I think you see that where one is way out of the other's league.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 06:13 PM
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Does being hot make you a better person?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 05:55 PM
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Do you ever put on nice clothes, or just wear whatever was on the floor from yesterday?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 04:47 PM
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Gimp girl kinda
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 04:02 PM
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The opinions of women 45+ don't apply here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:54 PM
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Explain
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 12:15 AM
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Uh huh
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:38 PM
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You gonna stop messaging her then?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:31 PM
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I'm hoping the internet gets so flooded with AI slop that most people just get off of it and we go back to living like it's the 90s.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:29 PM
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Most dudes are doing that to some degree. When you ask men what standards they have an ask women what standards they have, men usually have a handful and women have 100.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 10:42 PM
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It's amusing. Would've held off on the second text.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 08:33 PM
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having to take it easy is more of an inconvenience than anything. It's not the ego boost you're making it out to be when you're getting down to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 08:31 PM
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I told you this conversation was pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 06:36 PM
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I have NEVER SEEN THE opposite where any ugly woman gets a handsome guy, NEVER, where does this happen.. ? This conversation is pointless because women think ~75% of women are hot and ~1% of men are handsome. Of course it's extremely rare. Handsome men are extremely rare as far as women are concerned. Likewise, even if a 6/10 man is dating a 5/10 woman, you still think the woman is more attractive than he is because the 6/10 guy is usually revolting to you. Also being funny is a social skill are…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 06:07 PM
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An ugly woman can always get a relationship with an ugly man. An ugly man cannot always get a relationship with an ugly woman. Being funny is a talent, not social skills. I'm not very funny, but I do have good conversation skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:27 PM
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Oh, yeah. We had sidewalks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:19 PM
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Insane world we live in now. In middle school I got kicked off the bus and had to walk 4 miles each way to and from school. Nobody ever thought anything of it, but that was the mid-00s.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:13 PM
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They're trying to make others feel bad because they feel bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:10 PM
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what are they gonna do to you say you'll drive your kid and but make them walk instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:03 PM
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Can you give an example?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:58 PM
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How do the schools know how the kid gets to school? No school I ever went to knew or cared how I got there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:56 PM
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Women will never understand what it's like being an ugly man. It's not your fault, but you just have no concept of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:38 PM
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They'll be fine, they're rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:05 PM
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Idk what he gets up to the rest of the time, but that's not what he's doing above. He's complaining about a bad faith argument people make all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:18 PM
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Thanks for answering.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:11 PM
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Are you speaking generally, or specifically what he said above? If the latter, why does finding high-N unattractive bother you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 02:56 PM
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So y'all are happy with bad sex? Good to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 02:43 PM
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Are you ignoring who he replied to? You're bringing it on yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 02:23 PM
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I think it works great for some people and does nothing for others. I've seen dudes with great physiques but mid faces/faces that didn't match their body and I wasn't surprised they still struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:47 AM
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going to singles events Men already outnumber women heavily at these events. When it becomes normalized that good men are not on the apps, women will delete them and everyone will do better. Women are already not on them as much as men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:12 AM
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Why would someone who doesn't put in any effort deserve any effort in return?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:16 AM
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You answered your own question. Cutting/maintaining a good diet is hard. Cardio is hard (because most guys hate cardio). Just going to the gym a few times a week and aimlessly fucking around is pretty easy. It's also possible that they're not there to go look good. My dad was jacked, worked out 5 days a week for 25+ years. He couldn't have cared less about being lean.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 02:22 AM
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I really don't think that's it. They just don't want to put the work in.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 01:45 AM
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The overwhelming majority (like >95% probably) of dudes with an overweight BMI are just fat, not jacked. Most dudes aren't even fit. Also, just because they're in a relationship with a 27 BMI doesn't mean they started dating their partner with a 27 BMI.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 11:01 PM
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That's me. I love pretty much everything with tomatoes in it, but I don't really like tomatoes by themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 06:40 PM
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I'm not surprised you don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 06:26 PM
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No one said that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 06:12 PM
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When they ban abortion, and women with medical emergencies die because of it, people like you who say shit like this will have no one but themselves to blame. Just utterly repugnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 06:11 PM
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And yet, you're on here all day every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 06:05 PM
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It’s genuinely pointless to argue with the old people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 05:37 PM
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We didn't need research to tell us it turns women on to feel protected. It's literally what they most often cite when asked why tall men are so appealing to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 03:53 PM
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Redditors can't see outside their bubble.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 03:50 PM
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Nah, it just that people feeling bad about themselves (whether their opion is accurate or not) makes people uncomfortable. People will twist themselves into pretzels to avoid unpleasant or uncomfortable thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:47 PM
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Lying
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:00 PM
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What's worrying about it gonna do?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:23 PM
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Women often give dating advice based on how they wish things were, not how they actually are. "The right person won't care about [insert physical flaw here]." Nah dawg, they care, they're just settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 05:07 AM
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This isn't even my dumbest theory
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 03:25 AM
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Theory: The bigger the purse/bag, the bigger the woman. Q4all: True or false?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 03:05 AM
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is just dating for the sake of going on dates Oh, it could be much worse than that, buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 02:06 AM
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Most of the time it's a shit test. You actually get more credibility if push back because it shows you're not just trying to kiss her ass. Just be playful and not a dick about it. With Taylor Swift, though, it's tricky. A lot of TS fans have a psychotic parasocial relationship with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 01:32 AM
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Brutal
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 01:23 AM
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Fine, there are more men actively interested in dating than there are women actively interested in dating. Good any more pedantic replies that do nothing to further the discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 10:17 PM
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Not on OLD, but I would if I was. When I've dated women way out of my league, it's been an unpleasant experience for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 09:00 PM
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It will forever make zero sense that looks can't be discussed on a subreddit that revolves around dating/romantic relationships. And no, the containment thread that's pinned once every two week for a hour doesn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:34 PM
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And then a woman tells you that she's attracted to you Except her actions are suggesting that she's not physically attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 05:52 PM
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So if they're ugly and have shitty personalities, what's the allure of these guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 03:47 PM
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Would you agree that most women today aren't attracted to their long term partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 03:13 PM
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Where did I imply that I'm yearning for the days of yore?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 03:07 PM
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This is an arranged thing, she doesn't have any choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 02:56 PM
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This is not a rebuttal to anything I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 02:40 PM
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Pigs might one day fly
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 02:36 PM
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When most women talk about a conventionally unattractive partner, they're keenly aware that they're settling. You also see lots of women say stuff like "as you get older, looks start to matter less." It's not because they're an outlier in liking the ugly guy's looks, they just like what he can do for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 02:28 PM
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This didn't happen to you anywhere near often enough to say you were drowning in it. Why would you even match with a fat guy in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 02:23 PM
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They’re not a reflection of reality just by the mere fact that there is a many more men on dating apps compared to women on dating apps. There are more men interested in dating than there are women interested in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 02:18 PM
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sewage and used heroin needles. What women think of the average man
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 02:02 PM
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Most women don't use dating apps Do you have a source for that? I'm aware that men outnumber women, but that doesn't mean women aren't in a cycle of creating/deleting/creating a profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 01:59 PM
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Look how excited she is, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 01:57 PM
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Just because I don’t find someone physically attractive doesn’t mean other women won’t find him attractive. I don't understand why women are so invested in perpetuating this myth. We're far more likely to disagree on what makes an individual person likable than we are to disagree on what's good looking and what isn't. Something like 10% of men receive 58% of the likes on Hinge. Women do not have peculiar individual tastes. Women universally agree on what is and isn't attractive. Just stop the bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 01:53 PM
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I wish I could go back an experience the whole month of December at that age again. Didn't appreciate it enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 08:31 PM
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Ties are fuckin stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:45 PM
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Kiss Kiss Bang Bang <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 01:50 AM
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Gotta make the jawline pop
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 01:37 AM
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I think it's totally reasonable for people judge others for their character flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:53 PM
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40 or 50-something and still zero accountability for her own actions <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:29 PM
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God gives you this gift and you spit on it by eating Taco Bell at 9AM
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:13 PM
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Set goals and accomplish them. Start small and work your way up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:37 PM
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I've never heard men even imply that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 03:25 PM
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Is every person who's your looksmatch or below supposed to be romantically interested in you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 03:19 PM
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You're just trying to hoard all the blow for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 03:08 PM
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Cowboy. And by cowboy I mean old west outlaw gunslinger.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 03:01 PM
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What's the downside? She gets slightly inconvenienced because she has reject a guy? THE HORROR! My advice to men is for them not to get in their own heads trying to interpret behaviors and figure out whether she likes you romantically or not. That's paralysis of analysis creeps in and then you never do anything. Just ask for answer if you're not sure. Rejection is better wondering.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 02:28 PM
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If she is displaying active signs of “not interested,” DO NOT ASK HER OUT ANYWAYS. Yeah, no shit Also, men need to be more perceptive in general about this stuff. It’s actually a meme at this point. As long as women continue to hide behind plausible deniability and men are expected to make the first move, men are going to have to take chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 02:12 PM
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But if you never receive any signs that she's interested in you romantically, then there is never a good time with that woman in that group to ask her out. As a man, you still should just ask her out anyways. Relying on interpreting what is and isn't a sign when many women are as subtle as they are is a recipe for failure. Just be respectful if she declines.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 01:32 PM
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I think we're all better off if selfish and entitled people like that remain single.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 03:38 AM
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People who are insecure and/or who are disloyal themselves are often suspicious of their partners regardless of how their partners behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 01:36 AM
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To me it says they're not taking dating very seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 01:32 AM
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As soon as she starts talking to me about another guy she's fucking, I'm out. I'm not her gay bestie.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 01:31 AM
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I'm not going to speak for anyone else, but my interest in the subject is mostly because women consistently deny that they are only attracted to the most handsome men and/or they tell men they have only themselves to blame for women not being romantically interested in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 01:11 AM
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Obviously you think the number is pretty high, given you believe we need to change society around it and because it's unrealistic for men to assume they'll find a relationship. Is that a fair assessment?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 12:54 AM
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Men need to just be better people with better attitudes. That wouldn't really change you physical standards
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 12:50 AM
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My mistake on the second part, but you said "a good chunk of" not just "a chunk." In any case, it's clearly you don't want to answer, so whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 12:48 AM
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I asked for your opinion since you're the one making a claim. I'm not going to try to refute whatever number you spit out, I'm just curious. Furthermore, in another comment you said women select the best genes. If people who are reproducing by choice who shouldn't be, doesn't that shoot your whole theory to shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 12:38 AM
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The average woman in America isn't hitting the gym daily and being smart about her nutrition. Does she still expect an average man to do so?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 12:35 AM
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What portion of the male population do estimate to be unworthy of reproduction?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 12:26 AM
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How fast or slow you can learn a language depends on how much time you're willing to dedicate to it. An English speaker learning French can probably get to A2 or B1 in like 6 months if you really go hard at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:58 PM
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As soon as dudes start showing up women will stop
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:11 PM
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I didn't know until a couple months ago that they don't let you uber home after being put under general anesthesia. Luckily I had someone who could give me a ride, but I have no idea what happens if you have no one to call.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:44 PM
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I would just assume she was teasing/trolling. At first I thought she was just socially inept, but her other comments make clear she's just using the apps for entertainment. Many such cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:40 PM
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Okay but what's his favorite color for?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:15 PM
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I would've assumed you were talking about your underwear. Seems like a clear invitation to take it sexual. What were you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:12 PM
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Are all the dudes saying this shit femcels larping as men? Being a duplicitous piece of shit isn't something to pat yourself on the back for.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 05:42 PM
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I just had the weirdest sense of deja vu
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 05:38 PM
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When you put it like that, what doe she need me for if she needs a super sized dildo to get off?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 05:32 PM
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I think it's super weird not to want to make sex good for your partner. It's probably indicative about how you feel about them outside the bedroom too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 05:26 PM
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Is it your opinion that most women can't orgasm from penetration in general, or that they've just never been with a man who's large enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 05:18 PM
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Just realized it's probably $ecurity and $tability
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 05:13 PM
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What good is security and stability through the ups and downs of life without attentiveness?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 05:09 PM
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"I have no rebuttal, so I'll just launch some personal attacks." That ain't gonna fly, lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 04:13 PM
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Of course they should try to feel good about themselves. It doesn't make them more attractive, though. It just makes them less unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 03:25 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 03:18 PM
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Because it doesn't actually give you any good points. Insecurity and delusion are both negative qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 03:11 PM
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People tell others to be confident in how they look all the time even if they know you have unattractive qualities. They say insecurity about being short/bald/whatever is what's actually unattractive about those things rather than those things simply being unattractive on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:53 PM
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Ah, she sends you videos then?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:34 PM
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Lmao, it just gets worse. Do you listen through the door or do you sit in the corner of the room while she gets her back blown out?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:25 PM
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If you're ugly/people don't respect you, you can demonstrate to them that I could ride the skateboard and they will still say I was arrogant just for believing I could ride the skateboard. My confidence is myself didn't matter at all. My competence didn't matter at all. They had already decided how they felt about me. This is why confidence doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:13 PM
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Your confidence in how you behave will be perceived as confidence or arrogance based on how attractive you are how much respect they have for you. You can demonstrate competence and still be perceived as arrogant by some and confident by others.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:52 PM
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Glad we can agree confidence has no positive impact one way or the other. A lack of it can make your situation worse, but an abundance of it will not make any difference whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:48 PM
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I just wait the extra 8-10 weeks and watch it at my own pace. I've already waited 2 years in most cases. A couple more months ain't shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:32 PM
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Fuck off with this cuck shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:28 PM
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We're talking about how confidence in relation to one's attractiveness, not whether you feel secure in yourself. One's attractiveness is 100% up to the opinion of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:23 PM
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Welcome to PPD. People for the most part are here to argue for the sake of arguing. There are almost no productive discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:13 PM
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just have that unshakeable belief in your own abilities when it comes to your strengths and that IDGAF attitude about the things that are your weaknesses, provided they don't matter. Whether this is perceived as confidence or arrogance is directly tied to how much people like you and how good looking you are. The amount of confidence you're perceived to have by others is actually mostly how much confidence they have in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:05 PM
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The latter for sure. 4/10 to me ain't even that bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 12:25 AM
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I used to be pretty fat like 10 years ago. I got to my goal weight 3 times between 2015-2020 before it finally stuck (mostly).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 11:01 PM
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Probably, but it depends on if it looks like a real lifestyle change or not. Getting in shape isn't the hard part. Staying in shape is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:14 PM
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The only way #1 is true is if by "most single men who bother to date," you mean men who have the requisite level of interest from women to date multiple women at the same time. Most men do not have multiple women lining up to go on dates with them at any given time. It makes total sense you'd say that though since above average men are the only men who exist to women. Hence why so many of you are dating the same men. :) #2 is just a blatant attempt to perpetuate the myth that women are infallibl…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 07:57 PM
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You: "Fuck them kids."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:48 PM
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Then it could be a lot worse
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:45 PM
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Most guys aren't able to date multiple women at a time. They just don't get enough to matches/attention for that kind of thing. The reason it's become a problem is because women are all chasing the men who are able to date (and let's be honest, sleep with) multiple women at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 02:23 AM
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If you want me to search up some threads on here, I will. It's been discussed to death over the years. Think about it: Imagine an ugly male friend of yours confesses romantic feelings for you, you're honestly gonna tell me that's not going to make you feel uncomfortable/put out or even like he only became friends with you to try to backdoor his way into a relationship with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 01:57 AM
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Oh yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 01:39 AM
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Eh, fuck it, I still can't choose celibacy. It'd fuck up my career, but oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 01:18 AM
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Does my face have to be in it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 01:13 AM
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I agree with the former, disagree with the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 12:06 AM
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It seems like you were pretty meh about him throughout the whole thing, is that a fair assessment? In any case, I appreciate that you're not bitter towards all men despite this. I definitely see a lot of "I gave an ugly guy a chance and now I hate all men" from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 12:04 AM
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Sorry, I'm kind of being a dick. What do you think made you interested in him when no one else had been previously? Are you surprised he received no interest before you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 11:35 PM
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Would you want to be dated out of charity?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 11:13 PM
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Damn, how hard were you settling?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 10:42 PM
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What do you find interesting about this? Is this not something we've all seen thousands of times already?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:57 PM
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No sarcasm at all. Do you think women here are making themselves look good? You're all incredibly toxic, just like the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:42 PM
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She not yours, it's just your turn I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:29 PM
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No. Would never use condoms for even close to eight years, though. Not even eight weeks lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:27 PM
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Thank you. I really appreciate the women here and elsewhere online for dispelling any illusions I had about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:24 PM
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Smell ya later
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:18 PM
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Is that why "are we dating the same man" online groups have popped in every single city in the western world over the last few years? Just because women are sharing doesn't mean they have to like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 06:38 PM
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It's not really an either/or situation. I think women will increasingly stay single and have casual sex to varying degrees to satisfy any sexual urges.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 06:36 PM
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Idk why either. It's always mediocre women who have the most contempt for mediocre men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 06:12 PM
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Women have never had empathy for men they don't otherwise care about. There is no male solidarity. We're wired to compete against each other for the right to procreate and that will always take priority over everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 06:07 PM
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Are you okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 05:14 PM
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Women are indeed equally as overweight, and they are eschewing their traditional role, but that hasn't negatively impacted their value in the sexual and relationship marketplace anywhere near as much as men's decline has impacted them. Nobody gives a fuck why men declined, they only care that they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 05:03 PM
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Where do you get these numbers from?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 04:57 PM
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Men have absolutely declined. There are more overweight men than ever, testosterone levels have cratered, baldness is more prevalent even with advancements in medication and surgery, no longer capable of serving the role of sole financial provider, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 04:46 PM
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Not enough attractive men to go around and a lot of men don't put in a lot of effort. Effort matters, but effort doesn't really matter without attraction on the woman's part, and most women don't end up with men they're very attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 04:37 PM
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So you're acknowledging that women expect 50/50 household labor and for men to out earn them?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 04:35 PM
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Women have the capacity to enjoy it more, but probably don't most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 04:27 PM
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Everyone should do what makes them feel good about themselves I suppose
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 04:20 PM
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Why are you arguing over a girl that you don't want or doesn't want you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 04:06 PM
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Not at all. Shows you're still hung up on a girl you don't have anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 04:03 PM
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Maybe that's just who you are
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 02:58 PM
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No, she's fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:47 PM
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Wdym?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 11:59 PM
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Which one is what?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 11:14 PM
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She said in my ear "go deeper," and what hurt me is, I was already all the way in.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 08:39 PM
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Height and having big hands aren't associated with greater satisfaction potential (other than aesthetically), but women still prefer those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:58 PM
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And if what's on your resume is in demand, you can be hired on the spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:35 PM
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A of course, but I disagree that it's not totally about looks. Women like the way bigger than average dicks feel, but they also like the way they look aesthetically.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:56 PM
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Why is "shallow" used as a pejorative? We all agree it's fair to reject someone solely based on looks, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:51 PM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:45 PM
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Your chances of finding quality increase commensurate with the quantity available.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 04:42 PM
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Broodal
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 04:00 PM
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Probably
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 01:40 PM
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There's obviously some part of the story missing here. Unless you're being indecent, I don't understand what valid complaints they could make about you using your balcony.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 01:39 PM
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So you feel entitled to no one else using their balcony the way they see fit because it might infringe on your sense of privacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 01:29 PM
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I don't think it necessarily does. Plenty of old dudes that get themselves in trouble because they're horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 01:18 PM
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It's psychotic to care this much about people you don't even know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 01:18 PM
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Men are not the choosers in human mating, if your "solution" demands an impossibility you don't provide a solution. Her solution is that men who don't want to satisfy hypergamy should stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:52 PM
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Why do people watch this shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 02:15 AM
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Would you say your disappointment is immeasurable, and your day is ruined?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 01:45 AM
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I think undateable men take a lot longer to get sick of/give up on the apps. There are more men are interested in dating at all than there are women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 01:16 AM
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You obviously don't. Why would you assume they would?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 01:09 AM
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And always for men who have the very thing they claim to want most. Don't flatter yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:35 PM
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Looks like shit. I'm gonna be in slim fit jeans till I die.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:27 PM
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What should people be learning?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:02 PM
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Learned what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:51 PM
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There's a lot more to it than just numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:30 PM
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North Korean labor camp
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:58 PM
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Unless Russia thinks it could preemptively take out the UK and France's nuclear capability (it knows it can't), that's not realistic at all. There's a reason in the 80 year history of nuclear weapons they've only been used twice, and that was when only one country had them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:09 PM
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They'd be a pariah even among nations that are currently "friendly" to them like China and India if they started lighting off nukes. No one wants that. Yes, I'm in the US, and you're welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:48 PM
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While a Russian escalation is possible, they don't have the capacity to invade the rest of Europe. They've never even been able to establish air superiority over Ukraine (a country with a small, antiquated air force, especially in 2022). There's no chance they could wage any kind of significant air campaign against the rest of Europe. Their armor has largely been depleted. If some sort of escalation did happen, the fighting would probably happen mostly where it already is. Unless you live there,…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:29 PM
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You're getting click baited. We're not on the brink of WW3. In any case, it's not worth worrying about. Nothing you can do about it if shit does pop off.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:04 PM
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Flirting in 2025
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 05:50 PM
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Everyone's got their own definition. Mine is 20+ n-count at 30, history of group sex, history of putting themselves in excessively dangerous situations to have sex, etc. Also, if I know she's hooked up with a bunch of guys I know before I even know her. edit: Actually, even if I found out down the road she hooked up with a bunch of dudes I know, that'd be a deal breaker too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:01 PM
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Depends on what she got up to. Some of it would just gross me out to the point where I couldn't continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:47 PM
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Most women are very picky, some are insanely so. If you look at some of the women who've posted their stats, some will swipe on tens of thousands of men over a span of years, have a <0.1% right swipe rate, and only end up going on dates with ~20 of them. Maybe they have 2-3 hookups and no relationships after 5 years consistently on the apps. I've also seen women talk online about how they're basically asexual. Like they're 35 and have only found 3 (literally) men attractive their entire lives. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:28 PM
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Think about it, do you have any close friends who you met online? Not likely. You don't? Something like half of all relationships start online now. I'd say most people I know either met online or are pretty much exclusively using apps. That's true for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:20 PM
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And how is meeting someone irl and befriending them slowly over time until falling in love over the course of a few months or so in a natural way inferior to swipe swipe swipe swipe? This usually ends in an unrequited situation. Don't women often complain about men deceiving them by pretending to be their friend when they had romantic intentions?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:15 PM
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If you knew your friend had multiple convictions for abuse, would you still be friends? No?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:42 PM
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Not him, but I tried. She turned out to be a vile, cheating whore. Even in less extreme circumstances, people change a lot in their teens and twenties. It's unlikely for those relationships to be fulfilling for both parties long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 01:25 PM
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Did you intend this to sound as hostile as I'm interpreting it? Was it not obvious that I meant romantic as opposed to platonic?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 12:50 AM
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No one is prepared for their partner's personality to change to point where they become a different person. Think. This is the last reply you'll get from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 11:57 PM
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There's still a chance pregnancy and the related hormones fundamentally changes the woman's personality, regardless of how "prepared" you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 11:34 PM
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I mean, imagine a dude bigger and stronger than you bought you dinner and then expected to take you home and let him fuck you. I know I'd like that a lot less than wasting a few bucks on dinner. We're gonna get the short end of the stick as long we want them more than they want us.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 10:12 PM
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There's always doordash (Sorry bro)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 09:50 PM
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They think you're paying to be considered for a fuck, not paying directly to fuck. When women say pretend naive shit like that, most of the time they know deep down what's up. It's just that thinking of that dude in an even remotely romantic context is viscerally unpleasant for them, and they get so much romantic attention that they wish they had platonic attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 09:49 PM
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I think women get upset about a man getting bent out of shape if he pays for dinner and doesn't get laid. Obviously some feel they're entitled to a man paying no matter what his reasons would be for choosing not to, but Idk if that's the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 09:35 PM
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She's probably only socializing with dudes on a similar level to her boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:48 PM
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Don't expect or want casual, but I do have a limit to how long I'm willing to wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:40 PM
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Does anyone really suck then if it's expected people only act in their own self interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 12:46 PM
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Sure, but women expect men to feel guilty for "sucking." You can see they do not hold themselves to the same standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 11:26 AM
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Women in a nutshell
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 11:24 AM
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I would say it's betrayal light Of course you would. You get what you want for a while and cast them aside when something better comes along without guilt. How convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 11:20 AM
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Not exactly a Christmas gift, but I was witness to a harsh Christmas Eve proposal rejection once. She flipped out for "embarrassing her" and it ruined the whole party.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 10:38 PM
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They're everywhere else, why not here?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 05:19 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 04:33 PM
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Where'd you get that comment from?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 04:18 PM
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People who've never left the suburbs should stay in the suburbs
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 05:13 AM
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Damn they let you stay up this late in your nursing home?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 05:04 AM
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Jerk off a lot more I suppose
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:07 AM
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The disparity is probably among older women. Probably lots of men in those FSU countries drank themselves into an early grave.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:31 PM
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Oh no
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:28 PM
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So you agree women don't want 50/50?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:59 PM
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I don't see women saying that. All I see is women talking about what they don't want to do and how worthless men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:33 PM
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So if they both work full time a man must assume 100% of the household duties now? Seems fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:17 PM
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because of the romantic gestures he makes. Lol, yeah, that's why. It couldn't simply be because of how Heath Ledger looked.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 02:18 PM
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All I see is women screaming that they don't want to do those things anymore, so I'm not sure that's true anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 02:12 PM
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Buddy, you are delusional if you think men are driving the collapse of dating and marriage. By and large, it ain't women who are bitching they can't find any men (they bitch they can't find a man they want), it's men bitching they can't find any women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 02:08 PM
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More feminine behavior by you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 02:28 AM
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A. You re-posted his comment and endorsed what he said B. I'm just making fun of you for whining
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 02:23 AM
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Then why are you bitching about paying for dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 02:12 AM
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It's unfair, but what does bitching about it do? Either choose not to pay and accept the consequences, or continue to pay and accept that it's unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 01:52 AM
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If you don't like the game you can always choose not to play
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 01:13 AM
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Who's forcing you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 01:03 AM
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Lol, I'll do you one better: I bet if any one of most of those girls expressed interest in those very guys, most of them would find a way to excuse it. They don't even have to be hotter. And the same goes for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 10:01 PM
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Lmao at some of those dudes coping in the comments calling them unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 09:38 PM
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Not the best doesn't necessarily mean bad. All of that can be present to some degree, but you'll never know if it was present to a greater degree with someone else. Women also always brag about their prowess when it comes to faking it, so how can you really be sure what's really in someone else's head?.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 09:33 PM
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Why.. not just find someone who you would both consider each other's bests? This is nearly impossible to know. Most people would lie if their partner asked and they weren't the best. Men are also supposed to hide their insecurities because and insecure man is not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 09:13 PM
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I'm very glad my mom isn't obsessed with my looks. That would be weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 12:34 AM
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She's posted him on here before too. It's super fucking weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 12:15 AM
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I think they're scared, in denial, think they look better that way, or all of the above.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 12:09 AM
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My head tattoos aren't as cool
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 11:33 PM
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She has a very large head
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 11:30 PM
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No problem
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 09:20 PM
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Until she makes that clear I think you're safe to assume she just wants tutoring.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 09:10 PM
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Are you an OffTheRedSand alt?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 08:47 PM
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No one has that right either
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 08:46 PM
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I think they're just teasing you. There's no reason to read into that unless she makes a more overt move. If your gf saw her as a threat, she'd be treating her like a threat instead of joking around about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 08:21 PM
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Idk, I'm gonna have to find a new one now
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 08:07 PM
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What rights? No one has a right to be attractive lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 07:42 PM
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It's just attraction. She's attracted to a guy at her gym. Big whoop. How else is she attracted to a man she's never talked if not on sight alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 07:21 PM
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Because baldness and shortness are unattractive to women on their own. They make all other factors irrelevant. You can not like it, but you cannot change it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 07:18 PM
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She's attracted to him based on sight alone. You yourself said that. Women do not feel that for average men. Ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 07:12 PM
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She's a offended by it because she's insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 07:09 PM
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Willful ignorance on your part
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 07:06 PM
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Seems to be more of an ego blow for her, doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 07:03 PM
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Forget whatever term we place on it for a minute: Would you agree that average women never feel this for the average men they end up with?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 06:39 PM
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I think you're overthinking it. When a woman goes out of her way to express interest like that, it's usually going to feel really easy because she's genuinely enthusiastic about talking to you. It's not like it often is where you have to be a dancing money to get her attention because you already have her attention. He probably just doesn't think she's attractive or already has a SO. It's only a dumb maneuver on her part because she's being socially rtarded and can't take no for an answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 06:24 PM
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I think most guys would be happy to take a layup like that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 05:55 PM
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Soulless, dystopian, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 05:51 PM
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It's not a requirement for intercourse, obviously hookers do it for a living. Most people want to be desired by their partner, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 05:30 PM
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I think you're splitting hairs there, but thanks for answering nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 05:06 PM
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Would you fake the desire to have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 05:00 PM
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Do you really think you'd be happy with someone who would you through the pain you experience from sex just so they can be satiated?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:48 PM
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When people settle, they aren’t settling for someone they have zero attraction to, The problem is, sometimes they are doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:45 PM
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Why do you giggle? Shouldn't they be demanding the best of the best? That's the thing. If we're all demanding the best of the best, relationships are only reserved for a scant few people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:42 PM
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you need to be your best. Not your best, the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:40 PM
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Why would a woman who is happy about being single spend time on a dating sub? Idk, but there is no shortage of women who claim to be happy single that do. Probably because they're not actually happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:35 PM
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more like averagetwink
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:10 AM
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You're always paranoid someone is somebody else
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:09 AM
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I'm shocked stripping one half of the population of equal rights so you can get laid is a non-starter. Get a grip, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:03 AM
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I guess you shouldn't be actively trying to pick up people at work, but couples have been meeting in the workplace forever. Damn the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 02:47 AM
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What do you think would actually help?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 02:42 AM
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What makes you want to get to know a man romantically? When I've been hit on by strange women (rare), they were always complimenting me on my looks and didn't know anything about me other than how I looked. What initially piques a person's interest doesn't seem to be any different for women than it is for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 01:36 AM
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I'm sorry to hear that! I sincerely hope you beat it and better days are ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 01:12 AM
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I got more attention from women in the ~18 months I had a bike than I have from women in the ~15 years I've owned cool cars.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 01:06 AM
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The latter 100%. I'm on a very restrictive diet currently where it's a challenge to eat enough to maintain weight, so I've had to dial back my workouts tremendously to lower my TDEE. This is the most miserable I've ever been in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 12:59 AM
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By "her friend," are you talking about Charlie Kirk? Her brain was broken long before that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 12:14 AM
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Gay sex is actually the most straight and masculine activity a man can engage in.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 10:05 PM
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By stop going I meant disappear entirely
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 10:03 PM
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Back in my day, half the group used to just stop showing up to class.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 09:55 PM
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Face and height are more important, but all else being equal, the majority of women prefer a man who's lean enough to have visible abs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 09:33 PM
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I have never heard anyone say "women love fat guys."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 09:26 PM
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What does your ideal relationship dynamic look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 09:17 PM
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What do women value, in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 09:16 PM
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Women's position in the dating economy has enabled them to collectively bargain for that arrangement. It's really that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:19 PM
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This is LOL funny. You've spent your whole life dating men out of your league and then wonder why they treat you like you need to offer something that gives them a reason to date you. It's hard to find a man who treats you like an equal because you don't select for men who treat you as an equal. You select for men who are superior to you in every way and then wonder why they act like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:04 PM
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I'd say it's a coin flip between the asian woman and the woman next to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:05 PM
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Rob a bank and get away with it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:45 PM
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Crazy that they exclude roughly half their population from being cannon fodder.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:17 PM
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I dated a 5'0'' girl for a while and the thought never crossed my mind. This was before dating apps, so the height issue wasn't nearly as out in the open as it is now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:15 PM
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Why are they mad at her for not marrying a shorter man when they all seem to think producing short offspring is a bad thing? If anything, they're just telling her she should've held out for a taller man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:10 PM
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What country has that requirement?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:03 PM
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Fake, LARP, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 03:58 PM
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The whole thing is probably just another wealth transfer scam by this admin. Institute tariffs > corps pay tariffs > corps pass on cost to consumer > tariffs get struck down in court > tariffs get paid back to corporation > consumers get fucked The only flaw with the theory is, it's a little too subtle for these idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 03:32 PM
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If you read that story, and you think what you said applies in this case, you're just a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 01:04 AM
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Is "husband material" not an insult in this case? This woman's supposed husband material is someone she felt totally comfortable lying to and making a fool of.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:17 PM
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I would've bailed when she didn't enthusiastically agree to exclusivity. The fact that she felt "overwhelmed" and "needed to meditate on it" is a huge red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:29 PM
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You can tell he lets her walk all over him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:01 PM
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Kind of hilarious that she even picked up the phone and tried to make that lame ass excuse. Why even bother? Maybe she shit herself on the way over
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:20 PM
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She's literally trying to piss you off. That's the whole point for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 06:47 PM
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The single mother thing isn't necessarily a dealbreaker for me in general. If she's looking for a father for the kid, though, she's barking up the wrong tree.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 01:22 AM
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The sound effects package wasn't available when I got mine :(
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 11:15 PM
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Is lightsaber a euphemism for something?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 11:06 PM
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/briefs/2025/05/14/TELEMMGLPICT000424073078_17472170293440_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqIzV2jWZm93eqJxG0OMXcoCw2z3vVbq7aEs7tDAn2hyQ.jpeg Pics of the people involved if anyone's interested
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 06:26 PM
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Hold on now, let's see what the compensation package is first. Maybe Palantir isn't so bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 05:29 PM
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This is like an old bodybuilding.com post
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 12:45 AM
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Men historically have been valued for their utility. There's no utility in looking pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 10:53 PM
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That's not nice
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 10:50 PM
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Never heard a woman say that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 10:09 PM
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I think like 90% of the time the guy is making the first move.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 02:28 PM
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People in a friend group actively playing matchmaker has never been something I've experienced or seen happen to others. I've never thought to do it, either. I don't really think about others love life like that. I've had it happen where a friend of a friend will express interest and the intermediate friend with serve as a conduit to more interactions or exchange of contact info. I suppose there is some benefit there, but I'm also using "friend" very loosely there. Women I'd actually consider fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 02:24 PM
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They must be. Do you think sub-6 couples came to exist because women initiated them?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 01:35 PM
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Someone offending your sensibilities doesn't mean they're not treating you like a human being. Stop being so dramatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 01:32 PM
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It'll have about the same hit rate as thinking you're going to friendship your way into a relationship or your female friends will somehow lead to you dating other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 01:19 PM
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You're being trolled, bud
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 01:07 PM
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What purpose would that serve? I've had female friends all my life. It's never had any positive or negative impact on my dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 01:02 PM
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Idk, kinda sounds like a variation of "why can't I find a guy like you" or when a girl who wouldn't date you says "how are you single?" They assume someone should be into them despite the fact that they're not. I could be partially a six sense thing too where they just give off bad vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 10:27 PM
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It's possible they're just simple
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 10:14 PM
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Because the conversations here are redundant and circular. If you're here all day ever day having the same discussions over and over, you probably don't have a ton going on in the rest of your life, and you're probably not very happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 10:11 PM
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Who is saying they they seem like they would get some attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 10:08 PM
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perfect 1 of 3 adjective per·​fect ˈpər-fikt Synonyms of perfect 1 a : being entirely without fault or defect https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/perfect
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 08:44 PM
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Because that's not perfect by definition
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 08:41 PM
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I'm just looking for free therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 08:35 PM
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I think even the best relationships will feature occasional minor disagreements at the very least.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 08:25 PM
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Perfect doesn't exist in any sense, so I don't see how they'd be wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 08:11 PM
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I think simply posting here at all would be enough to doom me on its own. There's nothing I've said that's actually that out of pocket, but almost all of it would be upsetting and disqualifying to a normie.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 07:29 PM
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My point exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 05:40 PM
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That's getting what you want, not knowing what's really in her head.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 05:33 PM
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How would you do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 05:27 PM
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So your options are to marry a virgin (who still secretly might be unsatisfied regardless) or give up on relationships altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 05:24 PM
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On the one hand, I totally understand being upset about this. On the other hand, what does it really matter? If you're getting everything you want out of the relationship, and she's not, she's playing herself. How is that your problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 05:19 PM
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How is it an error in thinking for them to acknowledge themselves as a part of the section of society who will be excluded from relationship experiences?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 04:58 PM
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Are you Dutch or Scandinavian?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 02:31 PM
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r/everythingIdontlikeisfake
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 02:27 PM
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How do you get several dates with someone who never said yes to the first one because they assessed you in two minutes and decided they weren't your cup of tea? What would you say to women who "gave a chance" to a guy and had whole long ass relationships with them and still never developed an attraction to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 12:20 AM
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It's weird how many women act like they want a guy who's a complete doormat to them. I don't think many of them find that attractive at all in practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 11:25 PM
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Would you stay with a man whose penis didn't work?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 11:19 PM
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You wouldn't take it well?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 10:51 PM
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I'd feel amicably divorced
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 10:02 PM
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Any redditor
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 09:52 PM
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So you probably haven't dated since 2005ish? It's always funny to see people in that situation giving their takes on dating in the current year.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 09:12 PM
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Women cheat for the same reason men cheat: Because they're pieces of shit who can't control themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 08:57 PM
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🤮
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 03:28 PM
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If you've dated "so many" people before marriage, your relationships aren't lasting very long. I can only assume women like that just suck to be around after a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 03:04 PM
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No dude, can't you read? This is obviously his Irish cousin.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 02:15 PM
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one woman may not be attracted to you but another one won’t be. 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 03:52 AM
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They were looking for something tonight
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 03:41 AM
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You're right, we should just pack it in and accept our technofeudal fate
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 01:31 AM
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You can love friends
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 11:27 PM
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Only way to travel imo. I usually don't even find a hotel ahead of time. Just get on a plane and figure it out the rest later.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 08:10 PM
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Not worth supporting a legacy device that a tiny percentage of your userbase still uses.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 07:08 PM
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I mean that's just a security hazard. You carried that thing around for 5 years with no security updates.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 06:49 PM
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I think women want ambitious men regardless of how ambitious they themselves are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 06:40 PM
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Why are they so selfish? Us shareholders have bills to pay too, ya know.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:57 PM
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Dating down is any situation where I'm putting more into the relationship than I'm getting out of it. Women by and large want men maintain the traditional role of primary financial provider while splitting everything else at least 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:44 PM
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If women are only willing to date up, why would you think men would want to date down?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:21 PM
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but also in uni Ah, yeah, that helps a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:15 PM
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The difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:15 PM
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How/where do they meet organically where you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:11 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:07 PM
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To date up, that requires the person dating you to date down. You don't see the issue there?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:01 PM
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Thanks for answering, it gives me some insight into my own experiences. People tell men to lower their standards just as much as women, or even expect us not to have standards at all. I've been called crazy for not just taking any woman who shows me the least bit of interest, even if there are fundamental incompatibilities. Also there is sometimes general pressure from family to find a partner for the sake of grandkids or whatever. Idk if it's more or less than women experience, but it exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 04:59 PM
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I was really asking. I'd like to understand why you did that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 03:59 PM
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What's in it for me? You'll have to tell us since you were the one who agreed to enter a relationship with guy you didn't like in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 03:47 PM
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Then you're not desperate. Most dudes are, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 03:28 PM
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I had two in one night the other day. Hate when that happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 03:20 PM
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Even still, if they're meeting online they're meeting online. It's still pictures and on paper characteristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 03:15 PM
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But as husband material you get be a guy she doesn't think is as hot as other guys she's fucked. Doesn't make you feel all warm and fuzzy?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:28 PM
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How do you reconcile this with the majority of people choosing apps as their preferred way to meet people? I agree with you, btw. I just think we're in the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:20 PM
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Dudes talk tough about weight and boob size filters like they're not desperate for any matches at all. And don't say it isn't true, because if it wasn't, you wouldn't care if women who don't want you in the first place filtered you out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:00 PM
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Anything other than women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 01:27 PM
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While probably true, it's still a severely limiting factor. 20-25% of men experience some degree of balding by 30. Nowhere near 25% of women are into bald men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 01:22 PM
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I'm not small bud
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 01:13 PM
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That's awesome
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:45 AM
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I wish I was wired that way. All my passions cost me money.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:14 AM
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Passion for the career itself, or passion for money? I know plenty of people with the latter, very few with the former. I feel like some women have become so excited about being able to have careers that they've developed a sort of Stockholm syndrome with their employers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:05 AM
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Hair is massive. Just search up women talking about men's hair. Provided you're not Christian Bale in The Machinist level skinny, when you're already lean, adding muscle has negligible returns imo. Style is really overrated imo. I dress really well 95% of the time, but the only time I was hit on this year by a woman, I was wearing a hoodie and jeans.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 01:37 AM
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I would bet more women agree with her than they do with you. In general, women do seem to be seeking a man who is "better" than them in most categories. More money, more education, more social, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 01:24 AM
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Sorry for the misunderstanding
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 12:35 AM
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You were basically saying if a woman really liked you, she'd ask you out. I'm pointing out women who did everything but actually ask me out. They still made me perform in that way even though they very much wanted to go out with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 11:57 PM
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You've never heard of Tinder?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 11:44 PM
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A+ stuff here
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 11:40 PM
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This was back in the early days of tinder where you could use an app to mass right swipe everyone automatically, and I ended up talking to some of my matches. Nice girl, great convos, just wasn't physically attracted to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 11:38 PM
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That's not necessarily true. I was penpals with a woman on an app for a while, and she eventually asked me if I was ever going to ask her out instead of just asking me out. I didn't really want to go out with her, I just liked the attention, so I made up some excuse. Then like a day or two later she asked me to just come over to her apartment at like 2am to bang. Then there was another woman where I asked if her friend was single, and she got all offended said something like "why not me?" She st…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 11:32 PM
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What are some hobbies a man could have that would be interesting to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 08:24 PM
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There's no rule that things have to be fair. Demand for those women is still high, while demand for the equivalent man is low. Market forces and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 08:22 PM
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I really do enjoy you complete lack of shame in talking out of both sides of your mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:48 PM
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Yes. No shit. Most women dispute 80/20, but I appreciate you confirming it. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:39 PM
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If he was in Honduras, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:36 PM
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The algos show you popular profiles (hot people) early on to set a hook in you, then once it determines your elo, it'll show you similarly popular profiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:33 PM
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Women consider most men to be below average, so that tracks
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:23 PM
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In my experience, it's not that black and white. I had a relationship where I felt something was off within the first few weeks, and I even called her out on it when I tried to end it, but she insisted I was wrong and her hangups were because of x, y, and z. I really liked (and later loved) her, so I just accepted that's just how she was. Of course, down the road, I found out I was right and she was totally full of shit. I guess you can call me dumb for that, I certainly feel dumb now, but I kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:01 PM
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I think more men would benefit from reading stuff like and learning to be wary of shitty relationships like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:38 PM
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The mental and physical health benefits were pretty incredible for me. The acid reflux I had went away, and my back and neck never hurt anymore. My testosterone is higher so I have way more drive and my mood is better. I get a good endorphin boost from a good lifting session or good run. I feel better about the way I look and the way I carry myself. Maintaining a diet and forcing myself to go to gym even when I just want to rot on the couch taught me a lot of self-discipline. Women are demanding…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:33 PM
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basically, women admitting that height and facial aesthetics is top priority for looks, and that a fit women is at the same level as a tall handsome guy in the dating market place (which is true) 70% of the US is fat, so yeah the minority of women who are not fat are in high demand. Men also prioritize body more than women do. "Face > height > frame" is as old as the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:33 PM
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The thing is, a lot of those guys turn their anger towards women, which isn't justifiable. No one really cares that you're angry in general, just don't make it anyone else's problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:12 PM
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Same boat as you more or less. I would've been much happier if I'd followed my dreams post high school instead pursuing a career I really didn't like simply because it was realistic. Even if it didn't pan out at the time (it absolutely would have), I would at least be able to say I tried. Thankfully it's not too late for me, but that's mostly due to luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:05 PM
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Present your evidence to the contrary
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 02:24 PM
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I'm supposed to blame men for the unhinged conclusion you've reached? A small minority of men are rapists. Bad people. That doesn't make the rest of us responsible or potential rapists ourselves. I'm not going to take blame for something I have never and will never do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 02:04 PM
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I hope you seek therapy for your trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 01:44 PM
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If you're looking for conservative women, the apps are not where I'd go
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 12:54 PM
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Yeah it does suck to be left out, and it does suck that women lied about their attraction to me for their own ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 12:48 PM
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I doubt it's even 10%, but even if it is 90%, I'm nowhere near desperate enough to date someone like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 12:46 PM
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What laws do you want changed?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 12:35 PM
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Got any other revelations?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:00 PM
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Don't be so pedantic, you know what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 08:45 PM
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I take hookup material to mean casual material. The fixation is about being seen as the best option, not someone they settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 08:33 PM
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Plenty of women still want companionship, a family, etc. Sex isn't the only reason to have a relationship. In fact, women who are looking to settle down often talk about how sex and looks are not at the top of their priority list anymore. Despite not needing a man to survive anymore, there are lots of women who are motivated to find a relationship that they give "ugly" guys a chance. You can find tons of threads on this website where women talk about their experience dating or even marrying a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 08:01 PM
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Are you acknowledging that many women don't feel that level of attraction toward their partners? Then sure, I'm disappointed I will never experience that. Who wouldn't be?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 07:26 PM
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Better than being with a woman who's not physically attracted to them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 07:13 PM
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Do they immediately throw off their clothes in the middle of the bar and start blowing the guy? No. Have I seen women approach men because they want to fuck? Yeah, plenty. And we all know what guys who get that kind reaction from women look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 07:10 PM
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Strawman argument. No one is saying that's happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 06:59 PM
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Are they actually rejecting women? I don't think these guys are getting hit on by many or any women, really. I also think you just don't like the term. They're just describing what women feel when they see a man they want to fuck on based on looks alone. You know women say they only see a man they find attractive like once a week/month/year? They want to elicit those feelings from their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 06:41 PM
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Go to any affluent area and they're everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:56 PM
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So this is like a true blind date situation, at least on your end? I would never agree to that. Why can't you just ask for pictures?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:53 PM
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I'm gonna venture a guess that this is but one of many examples of her being exhausting
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:17 PM
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I think the way it's being done is wrong. We are supposed to have standards of due process and probable cause in this country. When we don't uphold that for everyone, the whole thing falls apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:15 PM
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What's missing from this discussion is short term relationships/situationships/fwbs. The super hot guy who makes an effort, but doesn't want to stick around, even though they wish he would. When women describe their best sex, thrill/excitement does seem to play a massive role for many.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:13 PM
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Just because you like something doesn't mean you can't find it unattractive in a potential partner. Anime and video games are notorious pussy driers, probably because the stereotype is guys who are into that are unwashed, lazy, and childish. And yes, that applies to you too, she just doesn't want to insult you. If I were to try to apply rationality to the irrational, she's probably seeking a guy who has interests that enhance his ability to provide so she can sit around doing what she wants (wat…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:22 PM
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It is better to wait for something good than to settle for something ok. What do you think men are doing with their comparatively limited options?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:03 PM
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Now imagine being a guy who only has a fraction of matches to choose from. If it's "hard" for women to find quality among hundreds, it must be nearly impossible for men to find quality among dozens (at best). Women are trying to turn their privilege of being extremely picky into a burden we're supposed to feel sympathy for them over. I won't have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 01:52 PM
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I'd imagine only a scant few men and women get to be anyone's dream guy or girl. We've all got to play hand we've been dealt.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 04:46 PM
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People say off the wall shit here all the time in earnest, so it can be hard to tell what is and isn't satire.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 03:37 AM
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Video not related?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 02:44 AM
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Feel like if they're friends you gotta pick one or the other
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 08:16 PM
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Misandrist women tend to call their male partners "one of the good ones" and spew hatred for all other men. They're usually not saying they're disgusted by their male partner's appearance when they're not horny. Maybe it is misogyny, but I'm standing by it being latent homosexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 07:38 PM
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Do you want this car because you really like cars/driving, or do you want it to try to look cool? If it's the latter, an entry level Mercedes is not a status symbol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:06 PM
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I think dudes like this are playing for your team and in denial about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:01 PM
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100% grade A live bait
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:43 PM
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Roughly what percentage of women who you meet from work, school, mutual friends, &c., & whom you want to date, show any signs of interest in you? 5-10% maybe Roughly what percentage of women say yes when you ask them out? I've only ever asked out women I was almost certain were gonna say yes. Based on the above, how well are you able tell whether or not a woman is open to dating you, or is just being friendly? I assume all women are being friendly (or seeking attention) until they're pretty blun…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:24 AM
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Generally attractive. There's probably a point where someone drastically smarter than me would be too unrelatable, but I do like someone who has interesting things to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:15 AM
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She may have gotten fat since getting together or he may just like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 01:36 AM
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I don't think about all the checklisty things that get talked about here on PPD. Did you before? Congrats, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 01:08 AM
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Below poverty level is where we've seen the steepest decline according to the one chart I bothered to look at. Next steepest is 100-199% of the poverty level. 200%+ above the poverty level has remained pretty much the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 08:15 PM
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I agree, it has little to do with the gender war. I think it has more to do with money than anything. Children are a luxury item.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 08:03 PM
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Why wouldn't I marry someone closer in income to myself and we both make each other's life better? Why am I supposed to make my life worse so someone else can have a better life?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 07:26 PM
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She's mostly living of my income, is she not?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 07:08 PM
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I guess I'm not a good man then. I'm not looking to essentially adopt another adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 06:40 PM
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So not necessarily providing financially? Or is it a his money is our money her money is her money arrangement?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 06:31 PM
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He works hard to make sure his wife and any potential children they have are not just provided for, but happy, comfortable, and safe. Why am I providing for my wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 06:22 PM
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Sounds like the ikea dresser I bought years ago. Most of the drawers weren't crooked, but one was. Junk.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 06:36 AM
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Best friend? Can't do that to him. Just a regular old friend? I'm going for it and I really don't care how he feels about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 03:04 AM
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In hindsight, were there other red flags before all the tattoos? I more or less agree with you on tattoos for the record, I'm just wondering.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:58 AM
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Douchey
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:47 AM
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I wonder whether the gold covered ice cream cone gives you a higher UMC+ score or a higher ≤LMC score. I used to know someone who loved Goldschlager (booze with gold flakes in it), and let's just say, she was ballin on a (tight) budget. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:45 AM
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Bezos can fashion himself as a supervillain all he wants, he'll always be this dork deep down. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 03:41 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:49 AM
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Say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:49 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:38 AM
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I don't think it's really about sex. I think people think their kid (or two up to a certain age) should have their own room, and if they can't afford to provide them with that, they shouldn't be having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:30 AM
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If you're getting old anyways, and you want to get jacked, you might as well hop on TRT at least. Not medical, financial, or life advice
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 03:10 AM
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My grandparents were really influential and important to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 02:45 AM
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What sub did this come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 02:42 AM
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40ish if having a partner only mattered to me as a means to have kids. I'll deal if it happens anyways, but I'd like to mitigate my risk of having disabled children as much as possible. I also want to be around long enough to be a grandpa. I'd personally probably never really give up since I can go either way on having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 02:35 AM
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That's very attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 01:19 AM
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If you fear for your life (or significant bodily harm), feel like you have no other options, and feel like you can convince a jury of that, you can shoot him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 12:34 AM
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I was just joking because I assumed you were. In reality, you're not supposed to pull a carry gun to threaten, you only pull when you need to use it. In many states, you also might have a duty to retreat to one degree or another if possible. If he starts chasing you or restricts your freedom of movement while threatening you, and you truly fear for your life or your wife's life, that would probably be a justified shooting as far as my understanding of the law goes. I'm not a lawyer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 11:52 PM
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I actually think the husband's response is too measured
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 11:31 PM
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I'm not on their team. I was also already pissed at them because they'd fucked me over a few months prior. The only reason I kept doing business with them was because I had no other choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 11:20 PM
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It makes sense that we have a "natural" aversion to it since we shouldn't be taking what children need to survive (before formula anyways).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 11:14 PM
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Who even looks at the reviews for a chain place anyways?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 11:07 PM
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I hate when businesses do that. A while back I was offered $100 off for a fake 5 star review. Told them no, and then left a 1-star review because they actually suck even though I never leave reviews for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:55 PM
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You sure this isn't a recent phenomenon?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:46 PM
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5-6 steps here. I do it more to keep my skin from drying out than I do to keep looking young.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:21 PM
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I agree many of those guys probably are showing a level of desperation, which is counterproductive and unattractive. Although, the treatment I see a lot of women online say they expect from men in the early stages looks a lot like desperate behavior to me, so maybe it isn't. In any case, I think a lot of the time they're just not social enough. If they want success, they need to put themselves out there more. I know that's true for me at least. This is less often true for women because men are e…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:34 PM
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Perhaps that lack of enthusiasm your describe from women towards their looksmatch has something to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 05:52 PM
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Would you agree there are more physically attractive women than there are physically attractive men?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 05:32 PM
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How so? She's specifically complaining about struggling because she's introverted. You know damn well you wouldn't advise an introverted man to try less.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 04:31 PM
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All men hear is that their struggles in dating are entirely self-inflicted and they need to do more. A woman complains about struggling because she's just sitting around waiting for it to come to her, gets called out on it, and it's men who are dismissive pieces of shit? C'mon.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 04:23 PM
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That's totally fine, but you can't really complain when you're making it harder for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 03:47 PM
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Could you create a profile on a dating app and have hundreds of likes/matches to choose from within days?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 03:33 PM
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Where are you expecting to be approached?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:21 PM
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Sometimes a man's got to have a code.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:55 AM
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You asked for opinions, and I gave mine. I'm not infallible or always right, so do with it what you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:06 AM
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I disagree. He clearly recognizes the red flags and wants to go forward anyways because he lacks options. That's less a guy who's conflicted and more a guy who's desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:09 AM
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I think operating from a position of scarcity is always a mistake. What if it turns out this woman sucks, and you miss out on someone great in the meantime because because you were committed to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:04 AM
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That's assuming men are always less emotionally invested.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:57 AM
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It seems like you want to pursue this regardless of what anyone else says, so I say go for it. I'm also the type of person who needs to learn thing the hard way. Maybe it'll work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:38 AM
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I think his lack of experience makes him far more likely to be the one who gets hurt in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:13 AM
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The fact that she felt the need to have a "wild phase" in the first place makes us incompatible. The fact that she's also remorseful about it means she has baggage that I'm never dealing with again.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:11 AM
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Birds are awesome
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 02:26 AM
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"Fun" doesn't necessarily mean n-count/hoe phase. Even relationships aren't taken super seriously by people in their late teens/early-20s. I know because I later found out I was in the minority of people who did take the relationship I had during those years seriously. I think if you're getting zero attention from women until you have a stable career, and you haven't had some sort of significant glow-up, you might be betabux. I don't really care how many women there are in the world and how uniq…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:30 AM
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Betabux are the guys women didn't think were "fun" enough to give the time of day to when they were just having fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 12:41 AM
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Maybe they like them for their personality
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 12:13 AM
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I'm glad these women allegedly take themselves out of the dating pool. They all sound like utterly self-absorbed nightmares. When I showed the list to one of my guy friends, he was like, "you're basically holding out for a God." Well, maybe? The things I needed seemed basic to me (although to others it may have looked like a lot)...but I also had just as much to give. It took several years, but the God did, indeed, descend and enter my monk-like life. Funny detail: he'd been an actual monk when …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:04 PM
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