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i think this confusion stems from the convergence of red pill and incel culture. They're interrelated but technically different. Incels believe women should want them as they are. Red pillers claim that women only want gigachads and that men should conform into one to get women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:12 PM
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This isn't my theory, it's actually been put forth by evolutionary scientists. Do a deep dive on the obstetrical dilemma; it's pretty interesting. It's not just a matter of medical intervention; it's about the female body being poorly equipped to give birth without killing either the baby or the mother in the process, without trained third-party assistance. Many women die from complications that take days or weeks to finally kill them. The origin of their death is still childbirth, although thos…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 10:55 PM
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people (both men an women) don't know they're entering into a trafficking situation. They aren't asked if they want to be trafficked. Men have to sign contracts and waivers that describe the dangers of a prospective job before they start. Even if they didn't, it's usually common knowledge when a job is dangeroud now-a-days.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 10:26 PM
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Assortative mating studies show that this is fairly uncommon. Men are more likely to reproduce with women in the same socio-economic bracket. Women are also forced to either become financially dependent on the man during the first 5-10 years of the child's life (forfeiting their own career and economic independence) or attempt to manage both, which isn't possible for most people (not just women). So your entire argument is dependent on outliers, the small percentage of women who marry up and WAN…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 10:17 PM
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Our bodies aren't even made to live through pregnancy without extreme medical intervention. Of course, a man would brush it off as a trifling experience, less inconvenient than a week-long cold, while also claiming we're disproportionately coddled and doted on in a medical setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 09:54 PM
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OP's examples are classically misogynistic and reductive. Saying that women have an advantage when they're given special treatment during pregnancy is like saying handicapped people are given special treatment through better parking spaces or ADA compliance measures. As if the disadvantages of being handicapped are easily nullified with a better parking space or ADA push buttons, leaving them in an advantageous position overall, which clearly isn't true. By OP's logic, men should never be allowe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 09:43 PM
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I like this take because it points out that desirability really is more than skin deep (at least for women). You could be gorgeous but if you’re incapable of giving/receiving love in a healthy way, over time, your attractiveness dwindles until you’re no more desirable than a physically unattractive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:43 PM
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Lol it’s literally prostitution. They’re with them for money. Not only do I think the men are losers, I think most of those women are too. I can’t fathom dating someone I’m not actually attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 06:39 AM
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it’s a broken bot
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 03:00 AM
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I love nail polish on men. It’s what turned me goth in high school 17 years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 02:56 AM
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Isn’t it supposed to be the other way around?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 02:51 AM

That may have been your personal experience but that doesn’t mean it’s universal. Return is relative to cost and the cost of your resultant fitness level, whatever that may be, isn’t necessarily representative of men as a whole. Im arguing that the lowest fitness level (the lowest average cost for men) would have the highest return in comparison to the other more extreme (high maintenance cost) types. As another commenter mentioned, a lot of this is personal preference, but the majority of women…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 01:56 PM

It’s like when men say they don’t like when women wear makeup and only show you pictures of women very clearly wearing quite a bit of natural makeup. They’re trying to say they like “subtle” makeup but they don’t have the vocabulary or optical recognition to know that’s what they’re attracted to. Women are attracted to men who take care of themselves, and yes, that obviously includes your body, but they usually want someone who looks “naturally” fit or athletic, not someone who obsessively works…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 09:07 AM

Exactly. And to reiterate: women en masse aren’t saying that they find being generally fit unattractive, it’s that there’s a low ROI at a certain point and it’s usually far lower than men realize. Going from being out of shape to kind of fit will increase your chances considerably, but anything beyond that won’t yield proportional returns in most cases. Being extremely fit won’t cancel out poor hygiene, health, presentation, personality, or facial structure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 09:02 AM

I agree with OP, but I don’t think they’re literally saying ALL men are like this. Everyone is struggling with online dating. If you’re not evaluating your attractiveness through the male gaze, then this wouldn’t apply to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 08:57 AM
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Same. I’m in Seattle
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 06:47 PM
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So if a man has a car and a degree the woman should pay for it because he got those things for her, but if a woman has a car and a degree, she did it for herself. Therefore, women should have to pay for everything because men only cultivate themselves for external approval and women should reward that by paying for it? I see your point now. Really great point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:14 PM
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Lol by that logic, he would then be responsible for back paying for her parents genetics and literally anything at all that contributed to the appearance she has when she starts dating him, which is an insane argument no one is making. My comment was about general upkeep. You’re conflating the ongoing cost of looking a certain way to previous costs of things you’re arbitrarily deeming as the source of his wealth. If the man was doing a lot of things the woman wasn’t, and she directly benefitted …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:55 PM
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And why is the assumption that the woman doesn’t exercise, have an education or a vehicle? These are all pretty standard things a lot of people have. I’m not saying every guy is ugly but I am absolutely saying that most women spend considerably more time, energy and money on their appearance. According to your statement, if the woman in subject values financial stability and the man has that, and the man values attractiveness and the woman has that, then both desires are being fulfilled. If you’…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:39 PM
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let's see a picture of your very attractive wife then
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 06:04 PM
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we haven't even touched upon skin: cosmetic facials, laser, anti-aging treatments and injectables have become pretty standard for a lot of women. plus manicures and pedicures fake tans semi-permanent makeup Lol I find it hilarious when men incorporate a good wardrobe into their overhead. A woman usually needs a bra which tacks on at least $60 every time she gets dressed. She'll probably also need some kind of handbag (+$40 minimum). Women's clothes are far less versatile overall as well. A lot o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 09:39 PM
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yeah i guess I'm just mid because i wear a moderate amount of makeup, take care of my skin, fake tan, have curly hair and dye it pink <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 09:27 PM
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Did I claim to be attractive? I said I was well-groomed and I am. I have curly hair so most of that money and time goes into maintaining my hair. If you don't have curly hair, I don't really have the patience to explain why it's so time-consuming or expensive. It requires significantly more products and often higher-tier products in order to look well-maintained, meaning, not matted, extremely frizzy/puffy, or tangled. I wear makeup, it takes about 30 minutes/day, 20 if I rush, but I usually don…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 09:09 PM
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find me an attractive woman who doesn't groom herself, and I'll agree. This is a common misconception by woefully out-of-touch naive men: you can't tell when a woman is wearing makeup, has injectables, a spray tan, plastic surgery, gets semi-permanent makeup, or gets her hair done (unless it's an unnatural color).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 08:26 PM
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I agree and disagree. Trad wife’s are a thing and some men are into them, while some women want to be one. What exactly that means is highly subjective though, I agree. Men should be searching for a woman whose preferred relational dynamic aligns with theirs. If a man is looking for a trad wife, he’ll have far fewer options though. I’m a woman and I do find it exhausting how men seldom calculate the amount of time, energy, and cost that goes into being well-groomed. I’m not considered high maint…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 02:18 AM
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yeah i feel this is a really good example of heteronormative gender differences. a lot of straight men will openly admit that they'll date an attractive woman with a shitty personality. i've never heard a woman say that, which speaks to the larger flaw within red-pill logic: men projecting their own values and motivations onto women. you're also leaving out the part where a woman is tricked by an attractive guy who's pretending to have a non-shitty personality. that's actually the original defin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 10:16 PM
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I don’t usually assume someone’s hitting on me when they ask for socials. People are obsessed with growing their following, so I feel like that’s a bit presumptuous
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:45 AM
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He specifically says “my question is for the ones that say no or say they aren’t on social media” some of us aren’t on social media… that doesn’t mean she’s not interested
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:22 AM
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Some of us actually don’t use social media…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:06 AM
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The guy who claims women shouldn’t have a high body count, but should also put out early to gain traction with men? That their real value is how good they are in bed? You realize he’s pedaling hardcore red pill theory right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/25 03:31 AM
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Up until 6 months ago, I would feel physically ill if someone I was casually seeing/dating tried to advance or secure a relationship with me. I was abandoned by my parents at a young age and still experience all of the trademark symptoms of disorganized attachment. I suspect my parents played a big role.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:45 AM
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Lol thanks. Also, I hope you disregard all of these people trolling you. Fitness, health and nutrition are very broad and interesting subjects. Anyone who claims otherwise probably can’t figure out how to read a study abstract so they try to make those who can feel small by claiming the area is “shallow”.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:22 AM
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Accomplished women (and people in general) are usually very busy ime. They’re only demanding in the sense that they expect you to respect what little free time they have. The most demanding and dramatic partners I’ve seen, of any gender, tend to have very little going on. They’re difficult because they’re bored and create problems within the relationship as a bizarre form of entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:21 PM
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Literally every male friend that has seen my friends asks if they’re single and comments on their appearance. Do women exaggerate to each others faces? Yes. Behind their backs? Not to my knowledge. I know my friends are interesting and intelligent because I find most people to be pretty dull, vapid, difficult to hold a conversation with. They’ve also been regarded as intelligent, funny, and/or interesting by a variety of people that personify one or more of those qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:15 PM
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Lmao cousin? Read my comment again and find cousin in there. You’re cherry picking fragments of my comment to construct your own narrative. “Downgrading” could mean a multitude of things and it’s completely dependent on the pair matching. Does the woman have less in common with the new partner? Disparate political views? Dissimilar sense of humor, taste in music, clothes, hobbies? Different attachment style or love languages? They downgraded in the sense that they chose someone they were less in…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:48 PM
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What about my comment implied that the abusive partners were attractive? Some of the least attractive guys I’ve dated turned out to be the most abusive. Those traits are in no way inextricably linked.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:32 PM
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OP’s qualifier was “really attractive women”. The friends in subject are all financially independent, smart, well educated and have interesting personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:26 PM
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Uhh did you just call me a guy? Im a woman. Im of the belief that everyone can find someone that treats them well while still being their equal. Dating significantly down for the sheer assurance that your partner won’t leave you, is just a different permutation of an unhealthy or inauthentic relationship imo. I also never conflated abuse with high value men? Not sure where that came from
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:03 PM
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I’ve had a few really attractive friends and I feel like all of them settled? Either for a guy that had little to offer outside of his appearance or someone overly submissive and “safe”. They only chose and stuck with these partners after dating a string of men that basically treated them like complete shit. From an outside perspective, I feel like they gave up and downgraded in exchange for stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:23 PM
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Do women say that they find that unattractive? This is my first time hearing that and I’m a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 08:21 PM
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Or are you saying a guy with those attributes would necessarily wait for sex? If so, why? Why would someone who’s already getting so much ass abide by an extreme scarcity mindset? If someone is that obsessed with sex, they likely have a problem. Being a sex addict also makes you a LQP for most women. I don’t want you or any other man to feel ashamed of your sex drive. However, if you’re unable to regulate it to the extent that it interferes with your ability to accommodate a woman needing more t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 01:23 AM
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6’4”, a millionaire, ripped, handsome, famous, and runs a charity for starving children Lol did you forget to add “heir to the throne” to that list? That’s a rather hyperbolic and unrealistic picture of any potential partner. Your description is skewed through the lens of the male gaze. I don't usually speak for most straight women but I think most would agree that Tenets of a HQP: healthy, kind, funny, employed, financially stable, and attractive (to them). Disqualifying attributes (at least): …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 01:14 AM
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Why should she raise the topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 06:27 AM
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The ones that do usually hide it to avoid being shamed for it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 06:22 AM
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I’m sorry but any dude claiming that waiting 3+ dates for sex with a woman you genuinely like, is too long, isn’t high quality. Sex quality positively correlates with sexual tension. If you really don’t have a preference among the women you’re dating and the only deliberating factor is who puts out..lol you don’t have enough substance to be a high quality partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 06:18 AM
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Until every product breaks the minute you get home and you loathe shopping at all
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 06:03 AM
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Pfff it’s very well known amongst females that the higher a man’s SMV, the less trustworthy they typically are. Some naive delusional women convince themselves that just because they’re hot, their hot bf would never cheat on them. If you’re absolutely certain your partner would NEVER cheat on you: you’re either narcissistic or dating significantly down.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 11:31 PM
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This is so accurate and exhausting to deal with. I've now resorted to almost exclusively dating men i feel no initial physical attraction to because the others won't stop trying to touch me or sleep with me before we've even hung out 3 times.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:42 AM
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red pillers are the scum of the earth ime. i've witnessed several average sized girls look as though they needed to be hooked up to a feeding tube near the end of their red pill journey.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:37 AM
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lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:32 AM
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IME, guys have a tendency to either a) smother or b) dismiss the smotherers are way too eager too soon. they have unrealistic expectations for pacing and require an excessive degree of reaffirmation which is a huge turn-off. the dismissers (which are often retired smotherers that jumped to the other end of the spectrum) are blatantly disrespectful. they'll often ignore you, and engage in manipulative behavior that they believe makes them look more sought after. a desirable partner won't put up w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:24 AM
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As a woman who has used these phrases, I think of “small dick energy” as a colloquial term for being an overcompensatory asshole that treats women poorly. I agree that doing so perpetuates insecurities about something men have little control over. However, I’ve noticed a strong inverse correlation between penis size and misogynistic fuckboy behavior along with many of my female counterparts. I don’t think that physical penis size is a reliable predictor of a persons integrity but, I suspect the …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 03:38 AM
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I was reading that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:54 AM
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I totally support that decision and I should have added to my original comment that you or anyone else struggling with their appearance should seek out therapy and a body dysmorphia screening prior to making a decision like that. You also sound young, so your face might change quite a bit over the next 7 or so years. Again, men tend to look better with more masculine features. For many, that’s the “imperfection” in their nose. Few people are 100% content with their appearance. If you altered you…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 01:59 AM
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Same actually! Not on my hair but I had a septo/rhinoplasty (I had a breathing issue as well). It did boost my confidence quite a bit. People often frown upon it, but it’s no different than changing any other part of your appearance, in moderation
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 01:40 AM
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Oh I see, agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:13 PM
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You’ll probably have a good time for the most part. I will say that most “healthy” relationship that I see up close, are far from healthy. I’d rather be alone than be either partner in one of those dynamics. I think that a lot of single people nowadays have similar standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 09:55 PM
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I disagree. I’m 30 and I only date my age and above. Most of the men I match with on bumble say that they’re interested in having children. It’s actually bizarre how often I have to open with asking if it’s ok that I’m not interested in having kids because it’s really that common.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 09:50 PM
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Plenty of attractive men have hideous noses. Males are actually lucky in that it can often make their face look more masculine. If you feel really self conscious about your face though, there’s nothing wrong with getting plastic surgery. I’m not telling you to get plastic surgery, just to be clear. I’m saying it’s a completely reasonable solution if someone is really struggling with their self esteem and it starts to negatively affect other areas of their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 09:46 PM
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It’s hard if you: move to a new place and work remotely, use primarily online dating, aren’t interested in hanging out with randos to make new friends, live in an isolated place that doesn’t have a lot of options, aren’t financially stable, require a lot of alone time, and have very little free time. Most of the outgoing/attractive people I know that are still single, usually check off one or more of these boxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 09:36 PM
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Yeah and women don’t necessarily equate muscles with masculinity. As far as physical traits go, it’s usually a combination of overall stature, prominent facial features, body hair, and shoulder width
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 09:13 PM
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Idk about a drama magnet being attractive but I primarily attract chads and I don’t find them attractive at all. I’ve also noticed that a lot of chads seem weirdly threatened by men that have a naturally masculine appearance but with a more androgynous disposition. Those guys are the most attractive imo
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 09:10 PM
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Is that any different than claiming books aren’t intellectually stimulating? There are plenty of vapid threads/posts/users just as there are plenty of garbage romance novels but as a whole, books are more cerebral than magazines. Reddit has far more peer reviewed research being shared in comparison to any other platform. Can you name a platform that contains more intellectually stimulating content? Also, requiring validation for your appearance is only a pre-requisite for being insecure. Attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 09:03 PM
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The first one is fascinating, Ty for sharing. I suspect I’m also not great at accurately assessing size. I will say that, while a 7 inches may look nice, it can still be uncomfortable or less preferential for some of the reasons I listed above.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 08:52 PM
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What makes you think that no attractive woman would use Reddit? It’s a forum for public discussion and it’s actually one of the more intellectually stimulating forms of “social media”. Most people don’t have profile pictures either…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 02:39 AM
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Lol did you just insinuate that every woman on Reddit is ugly? I think you got your pill colors mixed up. —-> /r/theredpill there you go 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 09:38 AM
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Female here 🙋‍♀️ the prettiest dicks I’ve seen weren’t abnormally large. And yes, there are pretty ones that look like anatomical perfection. I’ve never met another female that agrees with what you’re saying. 7 inches is uncomfortable and depending on the diameter, will often cause tearing, a bruised cervix (which is excruciating), as well as numbness about 30 seconds in. My first few partners had large penises and I didn’t know how much I could enjoy sex until I had average sized ones. I’m not …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 09:24 AM
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Every time dick size has come up in a convo I was present for (exclusively amongst women), the consensus is the same: we’re very content with average size. Bigger can be a nice bonus. Too big is almost as bad as too small and very few men fall into either of the last two categories.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 09:15 AM
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The cost of living rn is insane. I never used to factor a man’s income into his mate value until this past year. I’d expect both genders to start putting more respective weight on this as time goes by.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 08:07 AM
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This was a well articulated hot take that just changed my perspective on a lot of things
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 07:53 AM
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Same
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 07:50 AM
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I actually perceived “over-compensatory display of commitment” and excess attention/adoration as the beta qualities. I thought they were synopsizing what they had described in detail within the first paragraph as “‘beta’ comforting qualities”. I also perceived his phrasing as more of a colloquial reference due to the quotations
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 07:40 AM
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I think they were characterizing it as beta when done in excess in order to allay the woman’s poor self esteem? Like the difference between being a present/attentive parent versus a full on helicopter parent. It’s a thin line.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 06:55 AM
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I’m sure this only accounts for a meager percent of women but I know a lot of attractive ones that grew really tired of being mistreated by males that were even moderately attractive. As a result, they chose to focus more on desirable personality traits instead of looks. I’m a millennial though so that may or may not apply to the generation in subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 06:43 AM
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Thank the universe for releasing you from a relationship with that human garbage can. She’s a horrible person and she’s clearly trying to make you jealous. Don’t indulge her.
/r/TheRedPill14/06/22 07:53 AM
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I unmatch every guy that immediately asks for my number on dating apps without trying to at least feel out my personality first. It seems mega desperate. I also made that exact error one time when I matched with a dude way out of my league and he ignored me lol
/r/TheRedPill14/06/22 07:21 AM
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