bcool87 Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
19	Women "Neg" Men, Too	CMV	bcool87	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/19 02:08 AM
1	Many Men Haven't Experienced High Interest	Red Pill Example	bcool87	/r/TheRedPill	18/09/19 07:01 PM

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1	BCool's Tips for Dudes pt2: The Date Just the right amount every now and then. No one size fits all. Something you need to calibrate real time and develop an instinct for. But just like texting, why say in 5 lines, what could say in one? Why speak when you could just nod or wink? Etc. Leaving space is key.	/r/seduction	29/11/20 06:08 PM
4	Bcool’s Tips for Dudes pt1: Before the Date Thanks y'all. Stay tuned for pt2 next wk	/r/seduction	28/10/20 10:23 PM
1	How to talk to a girl that rejected me Classic case of not walking thru a window a girl opens for you (you had two whole months and enough hints from her.) And then when you finally make a move, you do it in a fairly clumsy and abrupt way where you kind of force a girl's hand and rely on her being in the exact emotional state you fantasized. But she's not stuck in time. In reality, it's likely that this girl was interested in you. At least at some point. In the future, don't wait 2 months to act on mutual interest. And it needn't be …	/r/seduction	07/10/20 07:40 AM
1	Men are bitter about women because they struggle to get laid True about the bitterness. Then again, no successful man would ever call their own sexuality "disgusting or unfortunate" either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/20 09:40 PM
0	Women’s Alpha Fucks/Beta Bucks sexual strategy is analogous to Men’s Madonna/Whore sexual strategy and neither gender should be shamed for it. Off the bat, my first reaction is that an AF guy is far more likely to create a non-judgmental environment where women ("slutty" or not) are comfortable to let their wild sides out. Betas are the ones with sexual hangups, unable to use their gift of gab to excite the "non sluts" and injecting long term vibes and implicit slut shaming into an interaction with a girl who otherwise would have been more than happy just to have some fun. What's more, because an AF has OPTIONS and reference experience…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/20 09:29 PM
1	If according to RP, all women become unattractive after 30-35, why do some RP circles also encourage women to settle down young? Why does it matter if the man will become unattracted to her anyway? I mean you're very much still in your physical prime and I'm not god. Glad you're staying healthy though. Bodes well	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/20 10:56 PM
10	If according to RP, all women become unattractive after 30-35, why do some RP circles also encourage women to settle down young? Why does it matter if the man will become unattracted to her anyway? Yeah the Wall is primarily a revenge fantasy. Many men and women, especially the melanin deficient, fall off period at 30. I see it already in some of my college/HS classmates, even the former athletes. Maybe they got married and got lazy. Maybe it's the attrition of being at a desk and working long hours for 10+ years. Maybe too much booze and late nights. Then again many others still look great after 30, especially in big cities like LA and NYC where people have money and workout and diet reli…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/20 05:37 AM
1	"Any woman who makes you wait for sex, the sex is never worth the wait" How far do you agree with this? I generally agree. I've had my best relationships with girls where we had sex fairly quickly. Not necessarily the first night. But probably by the second or third dates. After that usually I lose interest frankly anyway. Problem is most guys interpret a girl not giving it up as a sign of their own lack of Alpha qualities or game. I wouldn't always pin it down to this. At the end of the day, sex should be a win for both you and the girl. A girl needs to feel like it's a win for her, and part of t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/20 03:12 AM
2	Dating apps serve 0 purpose for men during the corona virus outbreak You can still chat and date... for those of us who are good on the phone/facetime. And you can also do straight to apt dates. Not sure if I will, but it's on the table. Prob best if you're both practicing self-isolation for 14 days.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/20 12:32 AM
1	Is becky buxx a thing? What happens when you can only speak in the language of Pills and not sociology/history etc etc. Bumma.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/20 01:30 AM
7	24 Hours On Girl's Tinder 5'11". I feel you man. It's not easy for everyone. I have a homie who does well in person but doesn't get good matches online. If you have enough looks and good text game, though, it should be part of your strategy. I'd be careful about limiting beliefs related to race, too. The older the get, the more I see that women are women and they are all attracted to solid, confident men... race be damned. I've been surprised at the range of women I've been able to attract.... women society told me I'd n…	/r/seduction	01/03/20 11:02 PM
3	24 Hours On Girl's Tinder lol speak for yourself. I'm a Denzel shade brother with 2000+ matches on my current Hinge account. And if you're propping up the colorism thing, you must be in England. Can't speak on the dynamics over there, but I just don't see this issue in the states. With black women, yes, but not with black men. The portion of non-black women who are going after black men as a fetish want the "real" thing. And that's not a light skinned dude lol. Then there's another portion of non black women that won't m…	/r/seduction	01/03/20 10:53 PM
11	Men aren’t angry because they realized women want Chad. They’re angry because they realized they aren’t Chad. As I've always said, the average man suffers both from outsized entitlement and a deep lack of entitlement. The kind of entitlement on the one hand that would have him send unsolicited/unwanted dick pics or catcall women. But after seeing those half-hearted and disingenuous attempts don't work (and can lead to consequences), the lack of an imagination or fortitude to ever try anything else because he doesn't truly think he's worthy. This contradiction is something that women rarely admit. But th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/20 09:53 PM
3	Reasonably attrattive men in their early 30s with their sh*t together are better off casual dating than being in a LTR? I play both sides. Some women see me as a long term option period. Others, the exact opposite. I feel like I got most of my pure hook up stuff out of my system for now. I did that from about 27-31, after being a very late bloomer. The real value of all this was realizing I can have abundance. Sure, not to the degree as a woman, but certainly more than most guys. Now, I have a deep understanding of what I like, what I'll tolerate etc. I also get why a lot of women flake because I now sometimes fl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/20 06:59 PM
5	I Hooked Up With the Hottest Girl I Have Ever Had...But I Need Advice Yes there's a phenomenon called auto-rejection that people don't talk about enough. Basically, the girl rejects herself ("you") before you do. Really starts to come into play once you become at least somewhat attractive and so really have to focus more on comfort again.	/r/seduction	15/02/20 04:01 AM
10	I Hooked Up With the Hottest Girl I Have Ever Had...But I Need Advice All good man. You're still young. I'm a late bloomer myself so I get it. Things only get better in your 20s and 30s if you stay on your grind. Trust me.	/r/seduction	15/02/20 02:01 AM
103	I Hooked Up With the Hottest Girl I Have Ever Had...But I Need Advice She sounds a bit insecure. Many women are and it shocks guys who used to be somewhat shy/uncertain around women themselves. You were a bit wishy washy with how you parted. If you didn't want to meet again that day you should've just said so. You also could've told her you had plans later but that you wanted to hang out again next week. End of the day, you want to do everything you can to make sure the girl feels like it was a good experience.... even if it was just a one time thing.	/r/seduction	15/02/20 01:57 AM
1	CMV: As a bisexual guy women are generally far more homophobic than men are when it comes to their partner being bisexual or having experimented with the same sex Well, if there's one thing a woman prides herself on, it's on being a good selector. But it's not just a pride thing, it has darn near life or death stakes. And so when she picks the wrong guy-- the guy who seems charming over text but a bore in person, the guy who woos her into bed but can't keep it up or make the right moves, the guy who she falls for but who doesn't stick around -- she internalizes these bad choices deeply and questions her own selection mechanism. Not to make this about me (…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/20 03:21 PM
1	CMV: Male thirst is as big of a problem as female pickiness. Male thirst is more nuanced that many women and men admit, though. First, I think the idea that high value men will sleep with anything is overstated. I was very much a late bloomer, and so once I finally started figuring things out a bit, I was eager to just get experience. I think that was fine for a time. But now, frankly, I don't get excited about women above a certain caliber. Never thought I was turn down "sure things" but here we are. This is how most of my natural friends have operated f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/02/20 07:02 PM
2	Critical Game Skill - This one skill will make you massively more attractive to women True true. But I guess I mean double texting in the sense of a second message within 24 hours. Sometimes I find a girl will respond a few days later and I'm OK with that at the beginning. But for sure there are times where you should be entitled/persistent.	/r/seduction	09/02/20 02:41 AM
2	Critical Game Skill - This one skill will make you massively more attractive to women Agreed. I think that's pretty much half of my game. Not double texting. Or just staying quiet if a girl isn't getting with the program. But it helps that I have a lot of options now. It's easy to say you won't reply when you have 20 prospects in your phone. You literally might forget about a few. Not so much when you're riding on just one (that's what she said). Sometimes girls will reappear after a week. A month. Or even a year. Especially from online dating, you're such a foreign entity to her…	/r/seduction	09/02/20 12:55 AM
1	Men Crave Sex cause it's the only way we dont get shamed for admitting we want physical affection Far be it from me to trample on any bro showing platonic love to another bro. I think that's fine and important. Overall, a man should lead a full life, pursuing his purpose, having a strong network of friends etc... However, none of this will curb a (straight) man's innate desire to have sex with women and a whole lot of it. Nor will it curb his disappointment/frustration/possible rage if he hasn't gotten this part of his life handled It's a totally different mechanism. And one that shouldn't b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/20 03:25 PM
1	Are most women even attracted to men? hmm. Well I'd certainly agree that women have to be more careful simply going to a bar, going on a date, or being with a new guy at his place... part of this is nurture/environment but part of this is also nature. I wouldn't precisely call this "self control," though. Indeed, if you become skilled enough at game and are attractive to boot, you'd be surprised at how many rules go out the window. (Women break rules for alphas and make them for betas). Why do you think women cockblock? It's not jus…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/20 10:06 PM
9	Are most women even attracted to men? Lol women compliment my features pretty often. The best way to think about it is that with some men, their attractiveness is more apparent to women from the outset. For others, it's a slower burn. But for all men, a woman's attraction will deepen if and only if you're also carrying yourself well, have the gift of gab, are seen as a leader of men, have preselection etc... And the inverse is also true. A seemingly attractive man can ruin it through his behavior and overall signs of just not "getti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/20 05:10 PM
8	Most women aren't “Strongly attracted” to their Boyfriend/Husband sexually, they’re just “Minimally attracted”. A bit extreme. Minimally attracted, no. Sufficiently or adequately attracted, yes. An axiom that really hits home is the idea that most things that build value with a woman, hurt comfort, and most things that build comfort with a girl, break value. In recent years, I've done a good job highlighting my attractive qualities, but at the expense of other things that make a woman think I'm a good longer-term prospect. Before, I was too far in the other extreme. A balance is what is good. I think RP/P…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/20 07:30 PM
3	"If a man asks himself 'how can I get this girl' it is already over." CMV Women do. It might be in the form of a proximity IOI like being close to me or brushing up against me. Or asking for a cigarette. Or looking at me from across the bar. You even get the more obvious ones; this past weekend I was out with a girl at a bar. When I left her to go get drinks, this other random girl holds out her hand and just straight up starts holding mine lol. I'm not even some kind of mega Tyrone either. Probably an 8 myself. Barely 6 feet. Well-dressed. I have friends better-looki…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/20 03:52 PM
2	So you want all the rewards without any of the effort or risk? That's because they want men who are already A and "just get it." By talking about it, and even more so teaching it, you're tacitly admitting the performance, and even artifice, involved.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/20 06:57 PM
1	What Every Pretty Girl and Champ Guy Knows, But Can Never Tell You A+. Now in my early 30s, I've come to similar realizations. Good food for thought in 2020.	/r/seduction	31/12/19 09:17 PM
2	Stop Getting So Hyped Up! NO Girl is EVER a For Sure Thing. Too much splitting hairs here and backwards rationalizing. All he had to do was lead her to the bar. Or better yet lead her out of the bar and back to his place.	/r/seduction	25/12/19 04:11 AM
2	Correlations between when people thought sex should start in a given relationship and when they actually began was very low for men but very high for women meaning only women decide when sex occurs And how often does this happen lol? I'm a "Tyrone" with good game and while the girl will give ample signals, it's me escalating all along the way... usually creating the euphemism to go back to mine and then making the first move at the apartment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/19 02:09 AM
2	Women "Neg" Men, Too Oh for sure. And I was tempted to call it just that. But I expect all women to shit test -- testing for congruence as far as value (at the start, and thereafter) and comfort (later). I guess I'm just making a distinction between that and what seems more like an insecurity. However, you could argue at the end of the day that all shit tests are driven by that too, in that the girl is feeling reactive enough towards you. A woman wouldn't shit test someone who wasn't registering on her attraction ra…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/19 03:51 AM
1	Not wanting kids/marriage/a relationship is fine if you're upfront about it and don't lead people on. Eh. Depends on your definition of "upfront" and "leading people on." This varies widely. I've had some women disappointed that I didn't want to commit fully, but on my end, I was always clear about what the relationship was. I never lied, but because I was attractive to them, they stuck around, even if they knew they weren't the only one. I think it's a caricature to go on a first date and lay all your cards out on the line from the jump. For one, it's unattractive and weird. Women can say it's …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/19 05:23 PM
1	Expecting men to be witty on hookup apps like Tinder instead of just saying "hi" or "hey" is stupid That she finds you attractive is the bare minimum for entry, and by entry I mean the beginning of a conversation not the other stuff (giggity). She has tons of matches. You might not even be her top option. If you were, she'd open you, respond quickly and enthusiastically from the jump etc... Women are different than men. This was true even before online dating so don't blame it on that. I agree that you shouldn't be a dancing monkey, and should assume the positive, but there's something to be s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/19 04:52 AM
0	Men have a hard time accepting that women's preferences evolve with age because they themselves are permanently 12 years old in their desire. The only lie here is that your now searching for a "lifetime partner" (lol divorce) is somehow solely based on hard-earned lessons and learning from them rather than biological necessity. There's also resentment. You resent the fact that men our age don't need to "get with the program" like you do. And even truer still, you'll still be just as turned on by skater boy (or his age-appropriate analogue) once you and your "lifetime partner" have a few kids.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/19 03:56 PM
5	Men think women see men as alpha or beta, because they are the ones who label women as madonnas or whores. Yep, you'll set yourself apart as a guy in his 30s still in shape. Just saw an old college friend on social media this morning who was a huge gym rat back in the day. Even slept with a girl I wanted to back in college haha. But now he's totally blown up. I gained weight for the first time last year. Lost the weight over the course of this winter/spring thanks to intermittent fasting. Now I'm focused on getting a solid set of abs for the first time. Sure, all this helps with the ladies. But mostl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/19 06:14 PM
2	A contradiction: The more I seem to think 'like a woman', the less friendzone makes sense. Actually, you're not thinking like a woman at all, you're just saying that so your point seems more justified and evolved. Not to be snarky, because I was with you for about the first half of this post. But then we reach your fairly mundane conclusion, that it's what's on the inside that counts and that there should be no conditions to a sexual/romantic relationship that set it apart (but not necessarily ABOVE) platonic friendships. As a guy who's also gone out into the real world and experience…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/19 12:47 AM
5	Stepping Through WINDOWS to Massively increase Your Success - (Med-Adv "Game" topic) Brilliant post. However, it might be worth exploring more WHY this happens. One reason, besides the girl thinking you're not made of the right stuff when she opens a window, is auto rejection. Basically the girl rejects herself before you reject her. In game, we talk often about the ways we fall short because of a lack of value, but at a higher level, I'm seeing my biggest shortcomings are because of lack of comfort. Lack of making sure she feels like it's a win for her too, that the transition …	/r/seduction	16/10/19 01:52 AM
3	I feel like the reason why women flake is similar to why some men watch pickup theory but take no action Auto-rejection is certainly something that can come up in the seduction process. but I'd also be careful of explanations that flatter us dudes. It's like the whole "playing hard to get" stuff we were told girls do. Really? As if she would be playing hard to get with Brad Pitt.The fact is there are myriad reasons a woman could flake. Some of them are your fault. A portion are hers. And sometimes ish just happens.	/r/seduction	13/10/19 07:16 PM
1	Confused: we date and have a connection, but still seems to avoid me Cool man good luck. Let's see. As happy to learn as I am to teach.	/r/seduction	11/10/19 10:16 PM
1	Confused: we date and have a connection, but still seems to avoid me Short version: Next. Longer version: It's been a month. No real physical progress and she's distant in the interim. Is that really the stuff of great romance? Why would you want to be in this situation? Doesn't sound pleasant to me. My only conclusion is that guys haven't experienced enough of what high interest looks like/feels like. If they did, they wouldn't even bother with lukewarm interest, much less invest energy and emotion into deciphering it. That's no knock. I've been there. But I'm n…	/r/seduction	11/10/19 08:15 PM
1	I had a panic attack when she said she wanted to have sex It's the weed man. Happens to the best of us. Something similar happened with a girl I went out with last year. Over the course of the year, we went on like 4 dates. And on the 4th, I finally got her to come over to my place. This is unusual. Usually things happen pretty quickly or not at all. I wasn't sure how to deal with this new situation. So she was coming over to my spot after like maybe 2 months of not seeing each other. I cooked and we ate. Then we sat on the couch to watch a show. It wa…	/r/seduction	07/10/19 03:52 AM
-1	What I learned from texting Too much all or nothing thinking in this debate. The real answer is that you text as much as is necessary and not an iota more than that. I'd rather err on the side of texting too little than too much, similar to talking too little rather than too much. Limits mistakes, piques curiosity, and invites the girl to invest and chase. Many guys are too considered with how they're gonna stay on a girl's radar. What about a girl staying on YOUR radar? The girl I went out with last nite the texting was s…	/r/seduction	20/09/19 09:56 PM
2	Be unpredictable. She'll love you for it. Good post brother I enjoyed this. Biggest takeway for me is your strong social circle. One advantage of that is that it gives you a bunch of social things to do when you're not working, many of which don't explicitly revolve around women, but might involve them. For a few years now I've over-relied on online game I think. I do well because I have some advantages, but really I don't think I'm maxing things out. I have one friend (classic nice guy) back home who really introduced me to some qualit…	/r/TheRedPill	18/09/19 09:07 PM
1	NAWALT - my experience LA guy here too, can confirm. It can be fun out here though, at least in the short term. But you can never got too comfortable. After having 4 solid longer term plates last year, with plenty of others sprinkled in, the first half of this year was famine. Now, it appears my stock is on the rise again. I also travel to SF and back east, where I have other more casual options and gain perspective.	/r/TheRedPill	18/09/19 03:53 PM
0	Girl is being short with responses for no apparent reason after first date Stop being a texting buddy and make plans to meet with her again. This is what texting should be, especially in the early stages. You haven't even kissed her yet. Things need to keep progressing, physically, emotionally, investment-wise otherwise it just dies out.	/r/seduction	15/09/19 12:18 AM
2	Need help deciphering my mistake during a second date Agreed, brother	/r/seduction	11/09/19 02:48 PM
1	Need help deciphering my mistake during a second date "You ask a fisherman how to catch fish not a fish." That's the refrain you hear a lot here and I agree with it in many cases. Do I believe you can never ask a woman what's wrong? No way. Communication is key to any substantive relationship. But in these early stages, when the girl doesn't know you from Adam, isn't even invested, and has likely already moved on, you're better off writing field reports detailing your dates and using resources like this and relying on more experienced men. In the O…	/r/seduction	11/09/19 02:23 PM
2	Need help deciphering my mistake during a second date Wait, he already asked what was wrong during the date and you want him to ask again?! The question is passive aggressive and fundamentally misunderstands how women communicate and experience -- that somehow female interest is fixed and unconditional, rather than dynamic and conditional. I do believe she wouldn't have come out again if on some level there wasn't interest. Indeed, she came to his place, which signals that she was interested in things progressing. But that depends on how OP steered…	/r/seduction	11/09/19 02:04 PM
2	Need help deciphering my mistake during a second date Change her mood not her mind. Obviously she was interested in things progressing on some level if she was over at your house. Seems once the "protection" of dinner ended and you guys sat down for the next part of the date, she was a little on edge. Rather than asking her what was wrong, I would've kept my distance for a bit. Did you ever try to make a move?	/r/seduction	11/09/19 01:56 PM
–	The best way to kill your chances with a girl is becoming overly excited about it too quickly. Learn to tame your excitement and stay level-headed. Never psyche yourself out too much too early on. Yeah it's pretty rare. A handful out of a ton of dates I've been on. That particular wording was for a girl who showed up drunk on a first date and needed that kind of direct communication (I eventually sent her on her way once I fully realized what I was dealing with). I think she was on social media, too. Obviously there are many ways to skin a cat but I believe this needs to be in the tool box too. I'm not saying it in a Me man You woman type of way but there are some girls who will pull this…	/r/seduction	11/09/19 04:16 AM
–	The best way to kill your chances with a girl is becoming overly excited about it too quickly. Learn to tame your excitement and stay level-headed. Never psyche yourself out too much too early on. All women are like that. Look up what that means and internalize it. I'm not an asshole, but I do have boundaries. If a girl starts texting on a date (exceedingly rare), I tell them when you're with me put away your phone. Do you feel like you could do this? More importantly, do you feel like you DESERVE to say something like this? Being nice and decent are fine. But often, it's also rooted in an adaptive strategy and as a means to an end. ie. I act like this so then I deserve that. To me, this …	/r/seduction	11/09/19 02:28 AM
33	A man isn't entitled to sex but she's also not entitled to his wallet. Yep if anything it increased interest.	/r/MGTOW	10/09/19 09:38 PM
1	The reasoning behind the contradictory nature of female attraction I think this is one thing RSD Todd is most on point about when he talks about premise --aka his more evolved take on intent. Essentially, by approaching a woman and in those initial stages, you are indeed revealing that there's a job available and the nature of the job (romantic/sexual) but NOT that she's necessarily got the job. It's a possibility, but there's going to be a screening process and you, woman, are not the only candidate. Most guys are sold from the jump. A man of value isn't. But …	/r/TheRedPill	07/09/19 05:06 AM
1	How should I escalate from text, if she's away for another month? Yep every 3-5 days but use your discretion. Good luck!	/r/seduction	06/09/19 09:56 PM
2	How should I escalate from text, if she's away for another month? Get the number, tell her to send you an incredible photo from her travels and then ping her with photos/value-based messages/memes every now and again until she's back in town. I've done this many times with success. There's no one size fits all; one girl told me to text her in a month when we both got back and now we're meeting on Tuesday. Not a single message was exchanged in between. Frankly, I'd err on the side of texting too little over texting too much. Also, the higher level is to get the…	/r/seduction	06/09/19 09:03 PM
1	She said it was only a few questions, what's this guy's problem? Thanks for this. I just reject the notion that she's clueless. I think she very much knows what she's doing. This is someone screening for a provider with intention (which theoretically could be fine) but with no concern with how she comes across (the part I object to). This is not the fun, easy to be with conversation that's been at the start of every good relationship I've had, whether short lived or long term. This is not an equal trade, of gradually getting to know each other by each sharing…	/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen	06/09/19 04:31 PM
2	She said it was only a few questions, what's this guy's problem? You say her obvious social clumsiness reveals obvious social clumsiness. I disagree. It only reveals that if most of the world reacts in that way. We know it does not. More interesting to me is what this perfunctory, hyper formal, urgent, and almost dehumanizing way of communicating reveals about the girl and how she sees you. Now that I'm in my early 30s, always with a good pedigree, many women see me as a good catch. But I'm also game aware. At my best I straddle two worlds, a guy who women ar…	/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen	06/09/19 03:01 PM
4	Should I call? I got a match on bumble a couple of days ago. Talking through the app went really very, very sexual. Got her number and made plans for this Friday. The problem was she never agreed to an official time. Should I call today to set up a permanent time and place for the date? Don't call. It's not that kind of interaction and it's possible that you'll say something that turns her off. Tmrw AM text her "Hola... let's shoot for 9pm at mine." When/if she replies wait until like 4-5pm. Then say "Txt when you're about to head out and I'll shoot you the addy." If she asks for it earlier obviously send it her way. To review, biggest mistake you can make now is to call or otherwise appear too eager or reflect a more dating (RATHER THAN CASUAL) frame. Keep things short and lea…	/r/seduction	05/09/19 10:45 PM
1	Need advice for Bumble Matches Too long to make plans. The house thing is just an excuse. You still could've started the process "Let's shoot for next wknd... I'm moving this wknd." That's the biggest mistake I see with guys who use online platforms. Overheard a dude on the line to a bar the other day complain about how a girl and him had been talking for TWO MONTHS and that she ghosted him a few hours before their first date. Much much too long.	/r/seduction	04/09/19 08:46 PM
3	"Wanting to wait with sex" - one big shit test? Sounds like you went hyper rational and asked her why she didn't want to have sex and listened to her story of the alpha dude who did her wrong. Not to poke fun or anything. Ideally men and women both have good sexual experiences. But end of the day, only three dates in, with things getting hot and heavy, this wasn't the conversation to have. Change her mood not her mind. I would've just said "OK, cool. No expectations on my end. Whatever happens happens." In my experience, this kind of chill re…	/r/seduction	03/09/19 02:31 PM
4	Got an uninterested girl to agree on a 2nd date. How do I proceed? Wow, this thread has produced a lot of interesting replies. Here's my 2c. First, it's a bad frame to go into the date thinking "how do I get her interested in me again?" If she's on a date with me, I assume she's interested. And from there, I focus on EXPRESSION rather than IMPRESSION. Funny enough, by operating this way, you end up being more likely to make an impression anyway. Second, I'd wager some of her flakiness has to do with the "making out in her car for at least 15-20 minutes." Assumi…	/r/seduction	03/09/19 02:14 PM
1	I know I'm attractive but I have no game whatsoever Depends on where in the states you are. In a cosmopolitan city like NYC or LA, your accent would be an asset. I've seen it firsthand. Again, I'm a bougie black guy and I don't get any of what you do. I have a strong circle of friends who understand and respect me, and more women than I can choose from. I'd imagine part of it has to do with where I am and what kinds of circles I roll in. An educated, worldly black guy with a bit of an edge is a type of man women of all races are interested in.	/r/seduction	01/09/19 05:49 PM
1	I know I'm attractive but I have no game whatsoever PM me bro. I'm an older (31) good-looking introverted black guy who has tons of success. But even when I was at my least confident, I'd never internalize the "white guy in a black guys body" nonsense. Sounds like you're in the U.K. where the racial dynamics can be different, but end of the day, if you don't get this part of your inner game straight you'll always struggle.	/r/seduction	01/09/19 04:34 PM
2	Ok now what the f*** do I do? Todd's Text and Dates Machine is really good. He breaks down female text responses (or lack thereof) into 4 categories, from worst to best: 1. Silence/One Word Answers. 2. A Shit Test. 3. A question/something logical 4. Positive, in which case it's time to ask her out. You GIVE based on what you GET and never extend beyond that.	/r/seduction	30/08/19 08:12 PM
2	Ok now what the f*** do I do? Ya, but this is over txt, on the heels of a 5 minute interaction where she doesn't really know you from Adam and hasn't been throughly taken by your allegedly masculine frame yet. The texting was bad and you won't consistently get high caliber girls doing that so you'd be wise taking some advice. It's not even that "hey beautiful" wouldn't work either. This is all about context. Frankly, this early on, a sign of a really good interaction would be the girl double texting you and giving you affect…	/r/seduction	30/08/19 08:04 PM
2	Ok now what the f*** do I do? As always, too many resources in 2019 to be texting like this. Two top problems: Pedestalization. Stop with the "hey, beautiful" stuff. Teasing nicknames are fine. Ones that excessively flatter her from the jump... not so much. It's creepy and betrays the manly front you put up with the "I'm not interested in going with her" if she doesn't spread her legs immediately. However, the bigger problem is that you're escalating too soon. She didn't reply to your text. That is NOT an invitation to doubl…	/r/seduction	30/08/19 05:59 AM
1	How do I respond to this last minute date cancellation? Eh lack of leadership (can you pick a place?) and excessive nicknames (my pretty) early on the game did you in. Sure, it's a halfway counteroffer (if we're honest, there are better ones that actually reference a new day), but I don't think you'll ever be meeting this girl.	/r/seduction	28/08/19 05:34 AM
2	This a thing? Distracted by 9/10 beauty, not even sexually interested? Hmm interesting. Hottest girl I ever dated, found it hard to get it up with her. We dated nonexclusively for about 3-4 months, long distance. (I also prob felt guilty that I was dating another longer term girl in my city concurrently). We did a bunch of other stuff, but I believe my lack of actual penetrative sex with her killed the thing in the end. In hindsight, I should've been a better communicator and allayed her fears and insecurities. We really connected on a deep intellectual and emotion…	/r/seduction	22/08/19 12:24 AM
1	[27M] virgin in college You sound like me bro, complete with the hyper-formal way that you communicate. I lost my v-card finally at your age 27. Now I'm 31. Last year was juggling 2 longer term plates, with a rotation of about 2-3 new girls every few months. More dates than I can handle. It can get better. What's the reason why everything took so long for you? For me, I think a lot of it comes down to perfectionism (again look at the hyper-formal way you write). You'd rather wait to be perfect at sex/with women or not …	/r/seduction	21/08/19 12:29 PM
1	Help replying to this message "I've thought about this all afternoon" Ah, got it sorry I misread that. Not bad. But don't do that other part about the operation. In fact, don't use the word operation at all. It's negative, unsexy, and too logical. The girl texting you should be an escape from all of that for her. Another person is right about it potentially being too much banter at some point. I'd just continue to ping her every 3 or so days with memes and photos. Eventually she'll say she's had the operation and then you can get an actual meet up on the books. Ma…	/r/seduction	20/08/19 09:22 PM
2	Is there any hope for an average quiet guy? There's no hope if you don't lean into your introversion and own it. If you do, yes, there's plenty of hope. Indeed, I'd argue that being an introvert can be better for game. You're less likely to say something stupid from overtalking. You have the potential to be more mysterious and not disclose everything. You're also less likely to come across as try hard, a braggart, a bad listener, or a motor mouth, problems I'd say are way more common on dates. You do need to learn how to be more engaging …	/r/seduction	20/08/19 09:12 PM
1	Help replying to this message "I've thought about this all afternoon" Seems like you're doing pretty darn well without our help good stuff. Your vibe is sexual but also more on the playful side so that needs to continue for congruity. If you don't have the number and are only messaging her on the app, I'd escalate and get the number right now: "Well, the logical thing would be to shoot me your number so you can meet daddy... I mean granddaddy ; ) "	/r/seduction	20/08/19 08:14 PM
1	Has anyone here ever gotten all the supposed signs a girl is into you but it turned out she wasn't? See my other post, especially the part about 100 percent certainty. You missed the window and wrongly assume that interest (and much later on, "love") should be consistent and unconditional, when really that couldn't be further from the truth. There's an expiration date on all of this. 2 months of flirtation with no action on your part and then finally a Hail Mary out of nowhere (the girl had already moved on) asking her out is not the right play. The funny thing is, and I've been there, it take…	/r/seduction	20/08/19 02:35 PM
–	Has anyone here ever gotten all the supposed signs a girl is into you but it turned out she wasn't? Eh. A girl can be somewhat interested in you but also unavailable at the present time for what you're looking for. Also, we don't know from your story how you "asked her out." Maybe she was looking for something more casual, not some grand gesture of love. For instance, say a girl checks out a less experienced player at a club and he approaches. She just got out of a relationship and is looking to have some fun, but he don't know that, or even care to know that. All he knows is that he's found T…	/r/seduction	20/08/19 02:32 PM
1	I can have sex/talk/kiss girls easily but can NEVER get the girl to fall for me. What am I doing wrong? OP, you're as easy to get into bed as you are with your feelings. That's the problem. No woman in the first few weeks of dating/hookup with me, has ever brought up another guy. If she did, I'd call her out playfully at first and then if she continued, left. You, on the other hand, are happy to sit around talking about that stuff, and also quickly fall into her frame of getting into something serious with her. Sounds like you're a romantic at heart. That's fine. But own it. There's a bit of an in…	/r/seduction	20/08/19 11:54 AM
2	The REAL way to deal with Shit Tests from women, from an actual woman I told her she had until she finished her drink to turn this date around lol. The shit-eating look on her face was hilarious. Maybe a bit too rational and ultimatum-y on my part, but that was how I was feeling that night so I'll own it.	/r/seduction	20/08/19 03:44 AM
1	Spinning more plates than you can handle, at least for a bit, is an essential learning experience; it teaches you to empathize with promiscuous women rather than just theorizing about their lifestyles. Yeah these are the kinds of nuanced, sophisticated, and even unpleasant truths that people outside of the community don't appreciate. After being a real late bloomer, I went on a bender of about 2-3 years. Dates on dates. Plates on plates. No, I wasn't Wilt Chamberlain, nor have I ever wanted to be, but I was with more women I ever imagined. Now I feel I'm finally coming out on the other side, with a lot more knowledge on the one hand, but also more emptiness. I remember this one girl I ghosted …	/r/TheRedPill	20/08/19 03:19 AM
6	The REAL way to deal with Shit Tests from women, from an actual woman Well said. I recently walked out of a date after a girl for what felt more like an insult than a "shit test." It was something she kept coming back to, even once we already agreed that we liked each other, had made out, and as she held my hand on the way to bar two. I hit her with my own shit test and when she failed I simply got up and left her in the bar. Maybe I could've gotten laid. But I've gotten laid enough now to have certain standards I require.	/r/seduction	19/08/19 06:11 PM
4	🔥 OFFICIAL GUIDE: Dealing With All Shit Tests From Women (In Depth + Examples) On a more positive note, one of my favorite shit tests passes of all time comes from Keys to the Vip, from this "cold and calculated dude" named Wheezer I think. He had a few things to iron out in his game, including becoming less aloof and more empathetic. But there was a point in one of the games when a girl's friend comes in to cockblock with "That's my friend." Wheezer hits back with. "She's cool." Not in the sense of she's with me but that I'm enjoying her presence so far. The friend goes "…	/r/seduction	19/08/19 05:32 PM
2	🔥 OFFICIAL GUIDE: Dealing With All Shit Tests From Women (In Depth + Examples) Haha I would. But really, at the end of the day like you say it's about a mindset and belief. I can be wittier than most people on the planet but if I'm not in the right headspace or a particularly hot girl throws me off my center for a bit, I'm more stifled. But when I truly believe there's no way this girl wouldn't want me -- which happens more often than not nowadays -- I'm on fire.	/r/seduction	19/08/19 05:24 PM
–	🔥 OFFICIAL GUIDE: Dealing With All Shit Tests From Women (In Depth + Examples) Not bad but some of these are too longwinded and try hard. I know you're not saying them in succession all the time and are calibrating based on how she reacts but still. Sometimes, the best way to pass a shit test is with a look. Not a word has to be uttered.	/r/seduction	19/08/19 02:58 PM
3	Should you even invite a girl out to a date? Or what am I doing wrong How would you know you didn't even try? You're thinking too literally, just like your clumsy attempt to show interest by inviting her out for coffee rather than putting your real intentions on the line and, ya know, MAKING A MOVE. All of a sudden, that girl's dinner can be cancelled or moved around once a guy makes a move and a girl actually becomes invested. Again, you were at her place, your friend left and you were still there even more together. By definition, that means you had at least som…	/r/seduction	19/08/19 01:32 PM
9	Should you even invite a girl out to a date? Or what am I doing wrong All that to say that A GIRL INVITED YOU TO HER APARTMENT and yet you didn't try and make a move. Why think about coffee in the future when you're right there with the girl in the present moment??? She wanted you to kiss her at the very least and maybe even sleep with her heaven forbid lol. Don't mean to be harsh, but it's plain as day what's going on here. A lot of guys think they're smooth and alpha when really it's the exact opposite and they'd be surprised at how far they can go in the other …	/r/seduction	19/08/19 12:29 AM
2	Alright, school me. How did I mess this up? Did I come on too strong? Ouch. These are the txts that women share with their friends (in a bad way) and post on blogs (in a bad way). Too many resources out there to text like this in 2019. There are many things I could write but for now I'll just say you need to start to see things from the girl's point of view. Pedestalizing her from message one (face 10, eyes 15, body 20) is creepy, weird, and perhaps worst of all UNEARNED. You're putting all the onus on her -- to be flattered by your obvious and excessive complimen…	/r/seduction	10/08/19 04:27 PM
2	How common is it to get flakiness from girls you've met from apps/cold approach even after you've had a good interactin/date/even made out? Part of being inexperienced is not having the analytical tools to assess if an interaction/date is truly "good" or not. Just because some guy says it was good doesn't mean the girl felt that way. A make out really isn't a big deal. Doubly true for a drunken make out. Two key indicators are investment and reactivity. Girls that chase, make logical decisions to see you again, fill in silences, ask what you're doing later etc etc... This is what you should be looking for. Have you ever had a girl a…	/r/seduction	10/08/19 02:40 PM
2	Made it to date, was too nice, need advice If you're going to leave your place -- a sex location at that -- for something else, it better be OVERWHELMINGLY better than your home. Coffee is not. I'd imagine there are just too many contradictory, incongruent things with this date to ever see this girl again. Just saying. Dinner at your place and driving were fun, spontaneous and conducive to sex. Not escalating, sitting across from each other at a coffee shop, being too quiet, weren't. And if a girl doesn't understand where to place you, y…	/r/seduction	09/08/19 10:18 PM
–	Despite her leaving, she said it herself No offense, but you're being naive. The same guy a woman is receptive to at a distance, is now a real entity when she's around the corner... and she might not be as receptive then -- particularly to a message that yes was "bold" but also leveling. And the fact that you're feeling validated by this is also troubling.	/r/seduction	09/08/19 05:13 PM
–	I want to ask my friend (girl) to hangout this week and I kinda like her. How to respond to “is this a date?” Eh, I'd much rather be with someone who made it clear she wanted to be with me from the start. I think the idea that a guy needs to chase a girl for years until she finally gives in is pretty toxic. Life is too short and I believe in the idea of multiple "ones" anyway -- not one girl but rather a pretty decent handful that you can be with. And what's not being said here is that women always have options, some for sex/fun and some for stability. Why would any attractive man with relative abundanc…	/r/seduction	06/08/19 03:24 AM
1	Girls who don't live in your city, but plan on moving soon? Eh no surprise. On to the next.	/r/seduction	29/07/19 03:31 PM
1	Girls who don't live in your city, but plan on moving soon? How did things end up here? u/FloridaFireball	/r/seduction	28/07/19 05:36 PM
1	She called me buddy... Total overreaction on your part. You're acting as if you guys never had a sexual relationship. One word shouldn't undermine that. Now if you get her in isolation and handle the escalation poorly, that's on you.	/r/seduction	27/07/19 08:04 PM
1	Girls who don't live in your city, but plan on moving soon? Hey man, you need to isolate. Starting from while you're out in public at the bar or wherever. If you're not bringing a wing, I'd recommend befriending a cool dude while you're out and bringing him in. OR, talk to the girl friend herself and ask her what kinds of guys she likes. This not only will help you create more value overall and make it clear which girl you're interested in (which you failed to do in the OG interaction), but when she ends up finding someone else, it's very unlikely she'll…	/r/seduction	26/07/19 06:30 PM
1	This is really just happened. Do you see what thirsty men have done to women’s minds?? I can only assume so. It was rampant in L.A. and NYC last year. My guess is Tinder cracked down on it, though obviously some women still do that, without being as obvious as this was.	/r/seduction	25/07/19 11:02 PM
1	This is really just happened. Do you see what thirsty men have done to women’s minds?? That's fair. I used to mess around with those Venmo me 5 dollars see what happens profile from last year. Those were the days lol.	/r/seduction	25/07/19 10:15 PM
1	This is really just happened. Do you see what thirsty men have done to women’s minds?? Eh qualify the girl and show you actually have standards and then you can come back and talk. Also, she's still replying, just shit testing since again, you didn't qualify her one iota.	/r/seduction	25/07/19 09:57 PM
1	Short Asian dude pulls tall 10/10 blonde. If can do it, you can too. Pulling from the Bungalow! Well done homie.	/r/seduction	25/07/19 02:09 PM
0	Could I have handled this situation better? Take it from someone who used to do this, you knew what to do, you just didn't want to lose the validation so you settled for a number instead of pushing your comfort zone and risking screwing up. Again, I've been there. But if you were coming from a place of abundance, or at the very least curiosity, you would've actually tried to get to know her, and pushed the interaction as far as you could. The girl was pretty obvious and it's likely that that number is a dud now that her buzz is gone, she'…	/r/seduction	23/07/19 02:54 AM
1	Dating apps for MEN? Lol sounds like pie in the sky thinking to me and the same kind of illogic that says that Bumble is for "women." As if women messaging first, usually with nothing more imaginative than "hi" (and requiring the guy to actually open properly), makes it a woman centric app and eliminates all the unpleasant things that can happen on a dating app. What you're looking for is a salve and you won't get it. Online dating is strongly about looks. One special app won't change that. Get the best pics you can…	/r/seduction	21/07/19 06:30 PM
6	I get A LOT of first dates but can never get a second date. What am I doing wrong? A long date should end in sex. Shorten them up and be more of a closer when the opportunity presents itself on a longer date. BY DEFINITION, the dates aren't "good" if you're not getting a second one. How do you follow up? At this point, girls who are interested regularly text me after the first date saying they had a great time and try to make plans thereafter. Are your dates that good? No knock, it took me a long time to get to that point and paradoxically, I'm so polarizing now that it's eith…	/r/seduction	20/07/19 05:47 AM
1	Girls who don't live in your city, but plan on moving soon? Yeah man worth a shot. Maybe if it's a club the other girl can find a guy.	/r/seduction	18/07/19 02:03 AM
1	Girls who don't live in your city, but plan on moving soon? Get more girls. Sounds cliched but it's true. There will come a point if you stick with this long enough that you'll just move on to new leads, rather than trying to resurrect an unpromising older one. That said, I like the idea of trying to get out the girls with a wingman of yours. That might work better on a Fri/Sat nite. Say you're going out to this cool spot with your friend and that they should join. I think trying to force a new flirty dynamic over text that you didn't in person when it m…	/r/seduction	18/07/19 01:47 AM
1	Great physical 1st date, went on vacation for 2 weeks. Interest faded, how to recover? Hmm. Could be a case of buyer's remorse, which has nothing to do with the subsequent texting you guys did while you were gone. I don't kiss a lot on first dates, especially if I can sense there's a chance to pull. Leave that for when you get back to your place or hers. Instead, you've played your hand entirely, and she may be afraid that there will be pressure to have sex next time you meet. While she might reply when you're miles away, your being back just made it "real" again and hence the no …	/r/seduction	17/07/19 11:52 PM
2	Girls who don't live in your city, but plan on moving soon? Why is asking what they were up to today, "stupid?" I'm convinced the issue here is mainly about intent. On the first hang, you needed to be clear that you wanted one girl, the other girl, or both girls. My sense is that you made none of that clear. And now the girls are confused too. For all you know, you're now in an isolated txt exchange with the girl who isn't even interested. Or maybe they were down for something to happen what with TWO GIRLS BACK IN YOUR APARTMENT ALONE and now you're in t…	/r/seduction	17/07/19 11:38 PM
2	Very hot girl gave me a record-breaking number of shit tests on our first date. I deflected most of them and she ended up initiating the kiss Nice write up, but you're not in the clear yet. To me, with all her snark and feistiness, I'm thinking the environment was ripe for a close. In my experience, girls who stir the pot like this are looking for fast physical escalation. Did you attempt it? A confident and smooth attempt at a pull would've said more to her about your value than any of the intermediate shit tests you passed. Indeed, a "romantic" kiss at the end of a date initiated by her doesn't exactly seem like this is where the in…	/r/seduction	17/07/19 09:24 PM
1	Girl I went on a date with texts me this, what’s best way to respond? She’s early 20’s. Why are you asking what you should respond with? What do you want? I'm usually not interested in being friends with women I'm attracted to, so I wish them well and that's that. If you do genuinely want to be her friend (and aren't hoping against hope), then that's how you reply.	/r/seduction	12/07/19 04:21 PM
1	Tinder text game... keep it direct boys(and girls). Good for you homie	/r/seduction	11/07/19 02:59 AM
2	Tinder text game... keep it direct boys(and girls). lol. Likely bot. And if not, she was already sold on you to begin with, writing more than you and escalating to boot. For sure, get to the point when you text, especially with online dating. But it's not always straightforward, and I say this as a dude who back in the day used to open with a close on Tinder and Hinge and have pretty decent success with it with girls up until the 7.5 range.	/r/seduction	11/07/19 01:11 AM
1	Why did I get ghosted? It's tricky. I met a really cute girl 2 weeks ago. We had our first date on a Weds and then at the end she asked if I wanted to hang out again on Fri. The Fri date was more sexual, we did a lot of barhopping and grinding, but she got a little lit so while I did make it back to hers, I didn't push anything. At the end, she asked if I wanted to hang out again on Sat, but I already had plans. Maybe I should've spent the night. Or agreed to hang out again immediately. We've been texting, but I can t…	/r/seduction	10/07/19 10:09 PM
1	Why did I get ghosted? There's not enough written about texting in between a first and second date, and all the things that can go wrong, especially if you escalated towards sex but it didn't quite happen. Some schools of thought would say you weren't aggressive enough, that you must have sex on a first date all the time, and now the girl doesn't see you as fully a man. Then there's another school that says you pushed too hard, past the point of return, and that now all the girl does is think you want sex and there's …	/r/seduction	10/07/19 08:37 PM
1	HB I used to fuck asks to take me home after work, wants sex, but doesn’t come in... It never ceases to amaze me how often men (including me) do things they don't want to do whenever a little sex is on the table. Why were you being her social media buddy, chatting in front of your place for hours? Take the lead and go after what you want. If she isn't down, then you'll know for sure what she was "thinking."	/r/seduction	10/07/19 08:25 PM
3	Insane male thirst and online dating Eh. Sounds more like a case of a girl wanting to make you jealous. Also I don't want to know about the other dates a woman I'm starting to date is going on. I would've not reacted and changed the subject and if she brought it up in person, really put a fork in it.	/r/seduction	01/07/19 01:53 PM
1	Date went well, went to her place but got show the door later Things don't just magically escalate though. You have to make the moves, while also using your senses and experience to read the situation. Impossible to say "when" you should've kissed her. The bigger issue is that your escalation up until that point -- clumsily and maybe even childishly kissing her all over save her lips -- was bad. Sometimes I'll bring a girl back barely having touched her. It depends. But for sure once I brought her back, I wouldn't be trying to negotiate attraction and talk…	/r/seduction	30/06/19 07:19 PM
6	Date went well, went to her place but got show the door later A few key mistakes here. Not kissing her on the lips might be one lol. But also not being decisive. "Are you trying to kiss me?" "Maybe." That's weak man. And you probably shouldn't be hearing are you trying to kiss me in the first place. It means your escalation is clumsy, untimely, and uncalibrated. Then there's just too much asking questions from there. Instead, you should've been reading the situation, making moves, and calibrating/taking feedback from there. And if you weren't trying to get…	/r/seduction	30/06/19 06:45 PM
0	After a one night stand.. I'd ask her to drinks over dinner, man. Or even depending on the vibe, straight over to your place again. But more likely drinks. Just keep things light, actually have sex with her this time, and go from there.	/r/seduction	28/06/19 07:01 PM
1	We made out at the end of the first date... To add to what others have said, the biggest problem I see here is with your analytical skills. Your assessment that you had two fun fun dates is false. If you did, by definition, she wouldn't be saying what she's saying. What's more, apologizing for a rather tame and mundane move on date 1 (believe it not, women will do all kinds of things on a first date... and in a short amount of time too), also makes the dates not good. Not to be harsh, but never do that again. In that moment, you proved th…	/r/seduction	27/06/19 06:10 PM
5	How to handle the “we’re not exclusive” situation on first dates Your first mistake is believing that the women you're with have never had sex on a first date lol.	/r/seduction	27/06/19 04:27 PM
1	Women see me as a master fuckboy, when paradoxically, I can't get any girls at all. How do I shake the impression? Qualification. You're coming across as a dude who will sleep with anyone and has no standards. Contrary to popular belief, women like men who are coveted by other women and have experience. But by the same token, they'd like to think they're special and that somehow you chose them (and later stick around) out of the pack. You need to start cultivating standards and qualities in the women you'd like to be with beyond the superficial. I've never been overtly or consistently called a fuckboy, but I…	/r/seduction	27/06/19 04:21 PM
2	Why is it that girls go crazy for black guys? I think what you're really asking is why aren't you getting the love you think you deserve. The racial stuff is just a red herring. Well guess what, improve yourself and your inner game and you will.	/r/seduction	24/06/19 08:40 PM
1	Day of Date is not 100% agreed yet but probably next Wednesday, time and locations aren't set yet. When should I reach out to her to clear logistics? Personally, I take the strike while the iron is hot approach. You meet a girl as soon as you're both free to. If weather's a factor and we're gonna meet at say an open air rooftop bar, I'll be proactive and tell her let's meet at this chill basement bar instead. Overall, I think this is an inner game issue though. You shouldn't be going in expecting a flake. And if she does, assess whether the flake is legit. If there's no counteroffer, there's a good chance she's just not interested. But we're …	/r/seduction	24/06/19 08:28 PM
2	Asked girl out for a second date, said she was busy and gave a very specific excuse. She has shown interest the past few days too. Anything and everything man, same as with my guy friends. You just have to remove the filter. Didn't happen overnight, but you just need to become more outcome independent. A part of me is very rational and logical, but another part is super creative, and that's why I often prefer hanging out with women over men. Maybe you're more on the rational side of things, which is fine, but you still need to be making an emotional connection with these girls. Don't get me wrong, a hot girl is fun, but at …	/r/seduction	24/06/19 08:24 PM
1	Women and the sex-relationship cycle Sounds like she (stupidly) thought you knew a bit too much about the airline, and by extension maybe people who worked there (huge org but whatevs), and it snapped her out of a ONS fantasy with a random dude in a foreign country.	/r/TheRedPill	23/06/19 04:29 AM
2	Story from last night Ah the whole ask a girl why she's behaving a certain way and expecting the actual answer. Girl sounds like bad news. I dealt with girls like that when I was younger. Stick with this long enough, develop enough abundance and frankly self-worth and you 1) will rarely attract these girls in the first place 2) if you do, you'll immediately recognize it and ride off into the sunset, no questions, no overanalysis or reddit post required.	/r/seduction	23/06/19 01:01 AM
1	Day of Date is not 100% agreed yet but probably next Wednesday, time and locations aren't set yet. When should I reach out to her to clear logistics? Sunday evening circle back about her weekend and yours and set the date location: "Let's meet at xyz". Tuesday set a tentative time: "Let's shoot for 6". Wednesday morning/early afternoon change date time by 15 minutes to confirm "Hey you, let's do 6:15 actually if that's cool".	/r/seduction	23/06/19 12:55 AM
2	Asked girl out for a second date, said she was busy and gave a very specific excuse. She has shown interest the past few days too. Reading between the lines, and judging by the way you wrote this post, you're a bit more sold on her than she is on you. Clearly, she's open (or was open) to hooking up with you on the next date. Make that your focus, not some grand date with multiple activities. That can come later after you've slept with her. Also, you're being a bit needy. Why are you available for her every day of the week? That's not sexy and if it really is "her time of the month" give her a few days. You might take the ad…	/r/seduction	23/06/19 12:52 AM
4	After using and having more success with Tinder than usual this week, I learned the hard way why it’s extremely important to have abundance. (And why building a frame is essential). Sounds like an average week in the game for many at the beginning. You're doing fine. Now you're developing that resolve and resilience, and also elevating your standards. I would also caution you against thinking that the girl you slept with somehow found someone "better." Maybe she did, maybe she didn't. Most guys are average or below average. At least you're out there trying to better yourself. Online can be finicky and transient. A one time bang is sometimes just a one time bang. I mean, bet…	/r/TheRedPill	23/06/19 12:31 AM
1	The word "nice" comes from the root word "nescire" in Latin, which means "to not know" Good effort, but you go too far with your conclusion. First off, and I can't believe I'm saying this, but there is no etymological conspiracy here lol. Rather than looking at it as right vs. wrong way, you should be thinking about deepening your understanding. That's what language, and understanding it more fully, should do. We all know here that nice, as women sometimes say it, isn't what they actually mean. But there are reasons why they frame it that way and I'm not mad at them. What's more, …	/r/TheRedPill	21/06/19 09:44 PM
14	NYC Daygame FR, and walking out of a 'date' with a 9 within minutes Good read man. Summer in the city is like nothing else. Recently walked out of a proper date myself. After we had made out, too. It's possible I could've gotten the lay, but I just didn't like how she was acting. So I shook her hand and left. Probably the most important thing I did all year from a game perspective. Russian girls, though. Not my thing. Exactly for the reasons you describe lol.	/r/TheRedPill	07/06/19 05:12 AM
2	Pulled my hottest chick ever , couldn t get it up So first you said it was the condom. I've used that explanation before and it definitely can be true. Then you said you fucked the previous day. This not only contradicts what you first said but is also weak and approval seeking. "See how much of a man I am?" even though at that moment you didn't feel much like one. Own that instead of lying. End of the day, I've been there too. I remember one time when the hottest girl I'd ever pulled at that time came by on Day 3 for food (Brazilian with a cra…	/r/askTRP	30/05/19 11:56 PM
2	two guys wanted to fight me tonight. [field report] I've been in this situation before. Often, it was the girl giving me approach invitations. It happens. Usually I make it clear that I meant no disrespect, but don't cower and run away either. One guy tried to start something. I just laughed. In contrast, I've seen other dudes be pretty cool about it. Not a hint of butthurt. This is what you should aspire to.	/r/TheRedPill	13/04/19 04:56 PM
2	Agree and amplify: why it is such an important tool Unreactivity is the name of the game, really. There are times when agree and amplify is the best course of action. Sometimes it's misinterpretation (my personal favorite). Sometimes, it's something else. But I wouldn't necessarily pigeonhole yourself to one way of passing a shit test. Good post as far as the dynamics behind a shit test though.	/r/TheRedPill	10/04/19 09:45 PM
3	RSD Tyler vs Todd V. Who's your fav? Todd but I respect both. I think Todd is extremely valuable once you get to high intermediate and beyond. Just incredible the analytical skills he brings to infields and game at large. He's not the only coach with impressive infield, but he gives the most sophisticated analysis bar none. That said, I knew about Tyler first, and I needed that inner game work as a foundation.	/r/seduction	04/04/19 12:58 AM
1	Girl keeps flaking on our third date It's interesting how these posts never include details about, say, how far you've progressed physically on these dates. I'm guessing not far. As well, this is passive and bad and should never happen:"I texted her asking where she'd want to go." If you're not taking the lead in text I doubt you are in person either.	/r/askTRP	26/03/19 02:37 PM
1	Crazy shit tests By driving her home for one lol.	/r/askTRP	26/03/19 02:25 PM
7	Anxiety. I fuck it all up. Im tired of it. How can I fucking change? First you need be honest. If you're a "21 year old kissless virgin" you don't know how to handle a woman yet. No judgment, it's just the truth. And while obviously self-esteem is a big issue for you here, cockiness or better yet preciousness is another. Believe me, I've been there, as a perfectionist too. You're afraid of being found out as a fraud but also believe you're somehow above messing up too and being human. Does it get better? Only if you want it to. For me, it took til 26 for me to fi…	/r/askTRP	26/03/19 12:50 AM
1	Women treat dating apps like chat roulette, agree or disagree? Tinder seemed to fall off a bit when I hit 30 (I'm 31 now), but Hinge is still a goldmine for me. When I compare my conversations to many of my friends (and we're mostly a socially aware bunch), it's night and day. They're being far too serious, far too literal, and far too slow. When a girl says "hi how are you?" there's no way I'm answering that seriously. If a girl asks me my sign as part of some arbitrary screening process, I'm not answering that seriously either. I just have fun, out banter…	/r/askTRP	26/03/19 12:43 AM
21	Shit test - wife suggested I go elsewhere for blowjobs Consistent good BJs are a prerequisite for any extended-term relationship I'm in. Most girls I'm with not only are eager to please down there but swallow without a second thought. OP, did she give you head regularly before you put a ring on it? Another thing I'm noticing is that you're in her frame, but dishonest about it. For instance, you say "I had a really good shower," yet it's hard to tell if you did that for you or for her. Obviously, it's not about the showers and the fact that you're ta…	/r/TheRedPill	19/02/19 04:35 PM
1	Let's talk about congruency Good post. And I feel like at every level of "leveling up," I face a new incongruity that I need to iron out. I'm currently going through one of those phases now, using journaling and field reports to figure out exactly what's up. But I know a part of it has to do with lack of a killer instinct. I'm still getting a lot of girls out, and fairly quickly, but not being a good enough leader in the final 5 percent. If I close, it's all good, but if not, I get ghosted 100 percent of the time because I…	/r/TheRedPill	09/02/19 09:47 PM
1	Called her out while flaking for the 3rd time in a month. Did i say too much? Yes but in a very sexy way.	/r/seduction	02/02/19 05:59 AM
1	Called her out while flaking for the 3rd time in a month. Did i say too much? Google Todd Valentine "dear diary text." The text you PMed me or whatever (I still don't understand Reddit) wasn't good. She's totally blanked you and you still want to know "how she is." I wouldn't. Deep down I doubt you do, too. I'd want to (playfully but assertively) call her out for bad behavior.	/r/seduction	02/02/19 03:51 AM
1	Called her out while flaking for the 3rd time in a month. Did i say too much? Stuff happens man. The date might've been fine, who knows. But she is very flaky and your responses to those flakes, opportunities to even gain some value, certainly didn't help your cause. I'd stay quiet for a week and hit her up with a value giving text like the "dear diary" one. DO NOT REFERENCE YOUR LAST TEXT TO HER and her non reply. You can't just be a logical pushover now. You need to use emotion and have more of an edge.	/r/seduction	02/02/19 01:53 AM
1	Called her out while flaking for the 3rd time in a month. Did i say too much? Can you tell me what happened on the first date? Details? Did you guys makeout? What?	/r/seduction	02/02/19 01:42 AM
3	Called her out while flaking for the 3rd time in a month. Did i say too much? There are never enough details in these posts. How physical did you guys get on the first date? Bad idea "making reservations" so early in the game, especially when she's proven to be so flighty. She hasn't earned that. Indeed, I'd argue that subconsciously (or consciously) you told her about the reservations because you thought it would make your plans more solid and her more committed, which means that you're still hanging onto the delusion that you can reason a woman to bed rather than use em…	/r/seduction	02/02/19 01:37 AM
7	Called her out while flaking for the 3rd time in a month. Did i say too much? You don't know that. You can speak for yourself for sure. YOU feel a connection. But that doesn't mean she does, friend.	/r/seduction	02/02/19 01:30 AM
8	Closure Is Bullshit Yep, a painful lesson I learned when I first fell hard in college. Hit her up for a month periodically til she finally agreed to meet me at the cafe for closure. Her friend was nearby too, as an out. Meanwhile, the wknd she broke up with me she was already out partying and grinding on new dudes. I was devastated by how quickly she just moved on. I'm so far removed from that guy now, but I'll never forget the lesson I learned. There are guys my age and older who still haven't internalized this. C…	/r/TheRedPill	20/11/18 02:59 AM
1	Why the fuck would she want to go on a 2nd date with you? "Most girls that i’ve hooked up with or dated said that they knew we were guna be something from the moment she saw me." Me too. But that's what we call backwards rationalization.	/r/TheRedPill	16/10/18 02:10 AM
54	I am so incredibly grateful to have found this community. Here's why Wild. But also humbling. That's why I was never into pedestalizing the rich/famous/successful. The older I get the more I realize things aren't what they seem. Heck, some of my friends who I used to look up to who I thought were good with women etc, aren't really. I mean, they get results. But they don't really get it. I'm still on my journey myself.	/r/TheRedPill	05/10/18 12:11 AM
1	Women are sexual creatures. Dude calm down #1, you're not the only one dealing with this. I didn't lose my v-card til I was 26 and prolonged matters after that by not just diving in and being willing to make a fool out of myself a few times. I dealt with ED (anxiety induced no doubt I'm physically healthy), not being able to finish, and telling myself I just preferred BJs over actual penetrative sex (sometimes BJs still do the trick). You just need more experience and to let go of your ego. You will lose a few girls. Maybe…	/r/TheRedPill	19/09/18 05:25 AM
1	Never fall into a long distance relationship. Get out if you're in one. Don't think I've ever been explicitly motioned over either but I do get approached/proximity IOIed fairly regularly. An early 30s actress/former model (still prob an 8) opened me at a bar over the long wknd and good times in ensued. This stuff does happen. The part that was surprising in the story was her walking away from her friends straight up like that.	/r/TheRedPill	05/09/18 04:11 PM
3	Girl on Bumble wanted me to "earn" her number, has anyone encountered this? Everyone always just focuses on the shit test. What's more interesting is what happened prior to that. You engaged in safe, unemotional conversation with a lot of questions. Despite the fact that you wanted something fairly casual, you still slipped in the part about "maybe dinner and being a tour guide." And then you wonder why she shit tests you and tries to bring you more into her frame? Honestly, I haven't had a txt conversation like this in years and you should be avoiding them.	/r/seduction	11/08/18 10:49 PM
2	3rd date-how to know if she’s down for sex? I can last forever with a condom and rarely cum with one so I guess it sounds like a bit of a humblebrag lol. On the other hand, I sometimes can't get it up with a new girl, especially when alcohol is involved. I've lost a few girls from it but usually it's all good. Just don't make a big deal out of it, use humor, and finger/eat her out instead. At this point, I'd rather lose a girl because of a "bad performance" than not shoot the shot at all. That's far worse, and you can lose girls that way …	/r/seduction	07/08/18 01:21 AM
1	Tinder exists to keep you using Tinder I'm a handsome black dude. I do well on Tinder and Hinge (maybe 200 matches on my current Hinge account). A lot of 7s. But some 8s and 9s. Got a few professional photos thanks to a model friend and have solid text game. You get a lot of flakes but I mainly rely on nightgame and online dating and have a steady rotation.	/r/TheRedPill	25/07/18 01:37 AM
9	You Learn The Most From Your Failures Despite the mistakes you made throughout the day, if you had just been more of a leader at her place... A KISS?! You should've been aiming higher than that. She says nap you lead her into her bed. By the same token, don't beat yourself up too much either. You registered on some level for this girl, which stands to reason, you'll register again for many other girls. Maybe this will take some of the unnecessary pressure off when the girl is "super hot."	/r/TheRedPill	11/07/18 11:23 PM
1	Tinder Bullshit lol at calling out a girl in such a butthurt and logical way. If you want to move on, move on. I would. Or I'd call her out playfully and keep pinging her every once in a while, focusing on other girls in the meantime. But "manning" up w/that ultimatum text worries me more than anything else here. It shows you still don't fully get it. A girl opened me on Tinder yesterday afternoon and we were meeting a few hours later. These are the kinds of girls I focus on.	/r/seduction	03/07/18 10:07 PM
6	Tips for a Late Bloomer You just gotta take a risk man. If a girl is dropping you off, she's comfortable enough at the very least to be in isolation and get a makeout. She also might be willing to come up. In my experience, you just have to act as if for a while until it becomes second nature. I've brought a lot of girls back on the first date now so it's not a big deal anymore. Also, pay attention to a girl's actions not her words. Your gut was telling you she wanted to take things further so you should go with that. …	/r/seduction	30/06/18 11:27 PM
–	Tips for a Late Bloomer Late bloomer lol. I was 27. Now that's late. Now been with more than 20 women in the past 3 years. Had my first real LTR last year. I went through a lot of different stages in my game but I mostly follow RSD Todd's stuff. I'm an introvert and mostly work online game to dates. I've also done well in nightgame but I'm trying to cut down on drinking. The biggest advice I could give you is to pull the trigger and stop living in fantasy land. I've wanted to know/be good with women for so long but the…	/r/seduction	30/06/18 07:01 PM
1	Your Beliefs Will Catch Up Much Slower Than Your Results At this point 95 percent of my first dates happen in my neighborhood. There's just no question. Recently had a junior (20 yrs old) from my alma mater drive an hr to see me (I'm 30). Transitioned from Tinder to Text/Instagram to straight my place. Being an older guy in a big city definitely helped and I was her escape. Going to the same college provided the necessary comfort. My worst date in past 6 months happened when I drove to her part of town. Date barely lasted 30 minutes. At the very least…	/r/TheRedPill	19/06/18 10:09 PM
1	Anger Phase...Addressing Rollo's SMV Chart As It Relates To Early 20's Yes, check out Todd's stuff. As a fellow introvert it took me from an intermediate to advanced. Really love his analytical approach and his style resonates with the educated women I like to go after. I mostly work online game (Hinge/Tinder) and local bars these days. I'm 30 so clubs don't really do it for me anymore except for special occasions like Vegas or NYC.	/r/TheRedPill	15/06/18 09:47 PM
1	Need help getting past LMR Age? Assuming you guys are both over 17 it's been done been time for you walk away.	/r/seduction	11/06/18 04:01 PM
1	I'm losing my mindset of being a player and starting to feel bad about sleeping with a girl, then moving on once I'm bored. Does anybody else feel this way? I think your assumption that all older women are looking for something serious is false. I'm 30 and have been casually seeing a 34 year old for 2 months. Had a 33 year old in the rotation too. And other situations where the girl either was getting off of something serious like a marriage or an LTR and open to just hanging casually for a while. Sure, 27+ women are more likely to be looking for "the one to settle down with" but that's not always the case.	/r/seduction	04/06/18 09:11 PM