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To answer your question the most efficient thing for a good looking man to do is to be upfront and honest about what he wants (casual sex) and find women who want the same thing. That way he can easily filter out women who aren’t interested in that. That’s usually how it works anyway, has nothing to do with having a “bad” personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:44 PM
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You’ll never see a “femcel” commit a mass shooting or kidnap and rape a man. They are not the same at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 01:22 PM
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You are most definitely are
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 01:20 PM
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I’ve seen a lot. They teach women to stand up for themselves and don’t compromise your boundaries
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 01:18 PM
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Maybe because there’s a lot more sex crimes in America
/r/seduction21/08/22 06:05 AM
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Height is a sexually dimorphic trait. It doesn’t apply here. Also what difference does it make what her dad looks like ? Would you consider a man a hypocrite if he wants a women with boobs but doesn’t have any himself
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 04:45 AM
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If no one wants to date her why would she even assume that anyone wants to marry her
/r/seduction21/08/22 02:51 AM
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Is any of that behaviour realty necessary to get a guy to fuck you.
/r/seduction21/08/22 02:49 AM
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I’m not attacking anyone. The person I originality responded was going on about how easy dating is for women. Something he doesn’t know anything about.
/r/seduction20/08/22 09:06 PM
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If that’s mens point of view as a whole that just just reinforces what I’ve been saying. Where it’s legal (Germany for example) mega brothels just ship in young women from poverty stricken countries. When prostitution is legalised sex trafficking increases I never said online sex workers are being trafficked but let’s be real here, most of them are teenagers (18-19). Maybe these “hardworking” much older men should get their shit together and actually go outside and talk to women
/r/seduction20/08/22 08:46 PM
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How ??
/r/seduction20/08/22 07:14 PM
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The “historical” period your talking about has never existed. Women have always been objects to men and have had little agency or sexual freedom. Everything you’re saying just further proves my point. How exactly are you being made to “work for” sex, by spending time with and going on dates with a women. So while she’s thinking “I’m having a great time getting to know David, hopefully we build a lasting connection and a meaningful relationship” you’re thinking “how much longer do I have to put u…
/r/seduction20/08/22 07:12 PM
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Not a guy, just saying the first thing I notice
/r/seduction20/08/22 07:00 PM
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Not true, the only advice they give is to drop or leave your partner at the slightest indiscretion. There is no manipulation involved
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 06:59 PM
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No misogynist is a “high value” person. Y’all are exactly the same as FDS and that’s why you hate each other so much. At least FDS doesn’t encourage manipulate or use men at all from what I have seen
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 06:25 PM
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Well I don’t date for reasons I’ve explained but from what’s been described to me men are constantly trying to fuck you over, lie to you and manipulate you and you’re just supposed to get better and better and seeing through the lies. Which sounds exhausting and a waste of time. So the men your describing probably exist but I question if they are in the majority. (This may be entirely based on age though)
/r/seduction20/08/22 02:18 PM
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The sexual liberation aspect of modern feminism was a mistake if that’s what you’re referring to. You’re wrong, men view women as sexual commodities first romantic options occasionally second. You can see that in this subreddit and other online male spaces (all the questions are some variation of how do I sleep with as many women as possible) The way men speak about women (“she was only a 6”) and the advice they give each other (“if she doesn’t put out by the third date leave her”) basically thi…
/r/seduction20/08/22 01:46 PM
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That’s total BS, dating for women is incredibly frustrating and dehumanising now that dating apps have allowed some men to act as sociopathic as possible under the cover of anonymity. Most guys literally only view women as access to sex and do not even care about emotional compatibility and shared interests or goals. It’s become what is the fasted and most efficient way to get her into my bed Literally do not see the appeal at all tbh
/r/seduction20/08/22 01:20 PM
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I don’t think they are copying anything many men are just narcissistic and sociopathic and cannot feel empathy or compassion for others. In this way they don’t care about women beyond what they can do for them
/r/seduction20/08/22 01:08 PM
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Muscles and money mean basically nothing. Height, attractiveness and social skills are most important
/r/seduction20/08/22 01:02 PM
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The abuse men and women inflict on each other is very different
/r/seduction20/08/22 01:00 PM
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If someone isn’t reciprocating your time and attention don’t engage with them. Simple as
/r/seduction20/08/22 05:57 AM
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There is no leverage here. This perspective is literally insane. By your own logic women are giving men “time and attention” (because that can only be given mutually) out real affection and romantic desire but men give women time and affection only in exchange for sexually access. So men see women as just sexual commodities not as compatible partners
/r/seduction20/08/22 05:15 AM
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Establish an emotional connection by being open, honest and forthright. Along with shared humour and interests
/r/seduction20/08/22 05:07 AM
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This is not a real complaint because coming from a place of insecurity and resentment. If a woman is actually in an abusive relationship, those only develop over long periods of emotional manipulation. If it’s not that then it’s that some women are just extremely insecure and crave validation from inappropriate places Men don’t need to be special to get a woman to like them. A lot of the time they have to be kind, emotionally compatible and have mutual attraction. It’s no surprise women are cold…
/r/seduction20/08/22 05:05 AM
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If you actually listen to destiny he says all the time that women enjoy sex BUT with men they know well and are comfortable with, I’ve heard him say this so many times at this point
/r/seduction20/08/22 02:36 AM
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Racism to add to the misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 01:44 AM
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Funny enough taking dating advice from destiny has helped me before
/r/seduction20/08/22 01:33 AM
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Has nothing to do with attraction imo, it’s more so being sexually liberal and adventurous. What I don’t get it men say they like inexperienced women, who I assume usually would like to wait longer because sex is a bigger deal to them
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 01:24 AM
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So in this worldview does love romance and companionship not exist ? It’s not possible for a man to fall in love with a women without access to her body ? Because from what you described the perfect relationship would be with a sex doll
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 01:22 AM
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You barely comprehend your own arguments this is embarrassing
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 01:17 AM
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Women who don’t put out on the first date are prudes not worthy of a relationship but you’re also a whore if you have a body count >5
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 01:16 AM
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I swear all these guys think if you’re not overweight or disfigured you’re attractive they are significantly overrating themsleves and need a reality check. Also the amount of women they were calling ugly, it’s pure delusion
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:10 PM
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So whose the beta bux ? the boyfriends she has when she is young or only the husband she “settles” for. If it’s only the husband, In that case the boyfriend is someone in between, attractive enough to not commit to marriage but not attractive enough for casual sex ? I guess it that’s how it works in the RP reality love and romance don’t exist and men only care about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 03:35 PM
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Those guys are probably extroverted confident and charismatic whereas those smart guys are introverted and socially inept when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 08:51 AM
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It’s likely that this girl didn’t even know the nerd liked her or she was already dating the dumb guy or the dumb guy is just a kinder more generous person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 08:47 AM
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He will be if he develops some social skills and asks someone out in his league. Your posts seems like this one girl is the only girl on earth, why obsess over her and assume she’s picking and choosing people ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 08:44 AM
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Has nothing to do with looks. Random hot guys don’t get female fans thirsting after them. A lot of those killers are fugly too. It’s just a fucked up form of celebrity worship and sexual fantasies based on violence
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 08:43 AM
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I don’t understand, most young women have boyfriends and if they do have a “hoe phase” it’s only for a very short period of time, a couple months at most. So are these boyfriends alpha chads, even if it’s a committed exclusive relationship ? Or is alpha Chad exclusive to casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 07:46 AM
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Casual sex ≠ AF/BB AFBB implies the women are gold diggers or settling with someone they aren’t attracted to for the sake of not being alone and having someone to father their children and cohabitant with. The real number is at most 14%
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 04:08 AM
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I think it’s best to steel yourself against rejection. Once it happens enough times it no longer affects you. I remember watching this mens advice YouTuber saying that cold approaching made him more confident and socially adept, basically it helped him in other areas of his life. It just depends on what’s more important to you: avoiding awkward situations or finding a partner. I respect the guys that put themselves out there more than the ones that just sit home and complain
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 09:29 PM
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Women want to have children with people who can support that child. More shocking news at 11
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 05:47 PM
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I see that women of all body types and personalities have had a chance at love, I see men of all body types and personalities who have never even gotten the chance Actually what are you talking about. Who are these women dating then ? I see couples of all shapes and sizes a lot of the time the guy is uglier too Do you honestly believe most guys in modern era are just trying to fuck as many women as they possibly can? That’s just been my personal experience probably deal with a lot more guys than…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:25 PM
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Fair enough. I’ve only watched more of his self help, self improvement content.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:18 PM
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Ok, I’m saying just be respectful. That’s it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:14 PM
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Anyone who’s not outwardly and primarily a misogynist I’m ok with
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 12:51 PM
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Same stupid point repeated over and over again Also they’re not the one getting clicks it’s just street interviews and the camera is hidden
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 12:50 PM
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I'm just saying, most girls have an okay face and okay boobs, a decent ass. An okay face and okay boobs is 100% genetically determined. So what if you’re unlucky? Where as most of the things women select for are either completely immutable, or extremely difficult to change. Yes just like what men select for. I’m not sure where i said it was easy, it’s obviously not easy. even though personality is a mixture of genetics+upbringing, This is such a cop out and not even true. If you want to become b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 12:45 PM
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Jordan Peterson content. Dr K (healthy gamer) content
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 05:59 AM
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I’m not asking you to do anything. Just stating how it is We don’t shave our arms but our legs, idk why but that’s how it’s always worked. Womens selection is waaayyy less driven by genetics. No matter how smart, rich, charismatic, confident or funny a women is she still gonna be judged on her face and body but men can make up for their looks through those areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 05:39 AM
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Thanks. I needed to hear this
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 05:07 AM
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The rock is literally 3 decades older than me. I’d have some serious issues if I found him attractive. Any I respect that you don’t mind but women get bullied A LOT when they don’t shave their legs and armpit hair: by family, friends, people on social media. Everywhere. Just saw a girl say she got blocked and unmatched when she told a date that she doesn’t shave so it happens all the time. Most guys care
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:57 AM
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I actually really understand your frustration, I think the best advice would be to make more female friends at these events you go to wirh majority women and once you get to know them well you can ask them to set you up or wingman you when dating. I really don’t believe that’s “all you got” there’s a lot of supportive constructive online spaces for men. Maybe they’re just harder to find but I think the RP mindset is just more appealing because it’s an outlet of frustration
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:29 AM
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Learn how to read I never said the rock was unconventionally attractive and I’m not talking about arm hair, I’m talking about leg hair armpit hair and pubic hair. NONE of which men shave. What do you mean “don’t even” please grow up man. Are you expected to shave your legs every couple of days ? Stop the BS I never said men “have” to be anything. I don’t even think the rock is attractive he’s way too old for me personally
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:15 AM
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women don't a hive mind. Your experience isn't going to be the same as other women's experience. Exactly so your crackpot theories not apply to all or most women All I am saying is that, in my experience, it's not worth it.... Depends on what your looking for I guess the female game plan - which is to drain male attention. Oh god, if you’re dating a girl isn’t she also giving you attention ? Some people just want to really get to know someone or base a relationship on an strong emotional bond. Y…
/r/seduction18/08/22 02:19 AM
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Ok chill out with the conspiracy theories. Attraction to men doesn’t stop at any point in the menstrual cycle no matter what your sex drive is, we’re still heterosexual and female sexuality doesn’t flip on and off like a switch. There is no “window” I’ve honestly never experienced that at all ever or even heard of this. Having a low sex drive doesn’t mean you don’t “feel anything for men”. Also where’s this idea coming from that how painful your period is is correlated to your sex drive ??? And …
/r/seduction18/08/22 01:21 AM
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That’s true but that’s not the majority. Some people also need to learn to be happy single, I’d say that’s a large part of maturity
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 11:15 PM
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I kind of reject the idea of seeing a partner as a solution to loneliness or as a quick fix for social isolation but I understand what you’re saying
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 11:14 PM
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Yes this is it exactly. Even the men who aren’t red pill or misogynistic at all will not even consider for one second that women have any issues dating that can equal there’s. Very dismissive
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 10:53 PM
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No one should expect to be handed anything in life with minimal effort. I think misogyny and bitterness is a reason some men are lonely but the #1 cause is lack of effort Loneliness is not synonymous with being single
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 10:51 PM
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The main issue then is that a lot of women aren’t interested in casual sex and the men go to those places with that as the only goal in mind
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 10:01 PM
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My school has a lot of attractive fashionable people. I guess my city is known for being very health conscious and having active lifestyles. I don’t even know anyone who’s overweight
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 09:28 PM
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It’s not a ridiculous statement and my standards aren’t ridiculous. It’s different because Rihanna looks basically the same without makeup and Tom Holland is short and has terrible facial features. I live on a university campus so I’m surrounded by young guys every moment I step outside. He isn’t special. Attractive men just must not exist in your mind. You still haven’t answered the question, every celebrity you’ve given as an example you think is “above average”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 09:05 PM
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I think you’re thinking about men of all ages. I’m strictly talking about men 18-25. I live on a massive university campus so I see a variety of young men daily and that’s my belief
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 08:59 PM
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I’m saying young men, as in 18-25. If we’re talking strictly facial features then yes l believe let’s say 35-50% of British guys look better or as good as him. Try and find a female celebrity you think is average. Even a social media one
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 08:56 PM
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I’m willing to bet the vast majority of people don’t see tinder as that. Even if you want to have a ONS with someone, a conversation is literally just basic human decency. People deserve to be treated with respect and dignity. What you’re describing is literally Grindr Also what I was specifically referencing was being asks on a date and then being expected to put out even though that wasn’t discussed before hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 08:54 PM
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Really ?? Andy Sandberg ?? You can’t be serious, if you think the men I mentioned are attractive then attractive men literally do not exist in your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 08:46 PM
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THATS FINE I still think people should treat each other with basic decency and respect and learn to take no for an answer or respect boundaries
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 08:41 PM
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I know I’m just trying to explain why it’s 75% men not attacking men for using it to find a hookup
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 08:41 PM
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Athleticism. Men are much more capable at sport and athletics in general
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 08:38 PM
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Can you name a female celebrity you think is overhyped and average looking. I’m curious to see how “realistic” your standards are
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 08:36 PM
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How about Tinder is bad for everyone and both genders struggle with dating in different areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 08:34 PM
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I’m pretty sure everyone does that to some extent but that’s not what’s happening here
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 08:31 PM
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The gaslighting here is insane. I thought men were supposed to be obsessed with height, he’s literally only 5’8” and this is the paragon of male beauty for you ! The only attractive feature he has is his muscles and maybe jawline. Literally nothing special. Just go to England, 75% of the young guys you’ll see will be as attractive as him or better looking
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 08:26 PM
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“Ignoring” as in what, not dating. You think it’s a good idea to date people you aren’t attracted to ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 08:22 PM
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I literally just gave you an example of how it's not a new social norm. It's a norm that's been around for ages, even in the West. Rome literally birthed Western culture. We’re talking here about the expectation of shaving PUBIC hair completely off not body hair in general With the introduction of the bikini in 1946, the stage was set for women to start trimming pubic hair as well. In the 1950s, Hugh Hefner’s Playboy magazine introduced clean-shaven, scantily-clad model—sexy, lingerie-draped wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 08:19 PM
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Those physical flaws are major not insignificant and we’re talking about his looks here so his money, fame and charisma is irrelevant. He doesn’t have great facial features and he doesn’t have great hair. He’s not bald which isn’t special and his hair is greasy. Also I don’t care about body type, as long as he isn’t overweight and is well built it’s all the same to me. I’m talking about his face and height How would I even meet these standards seeing as I’m not a man ? And what difference does i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 08:04 PM
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I DONT. Even if they act normal over text a lot of the time in person they’ll resort to annoying and pushy behaviour, or become outright creepy and abusive
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 07:22 PM
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It’s not just about hookups it’s also how they speak to you. Not even starting with “hi”. That’s the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 07:15 PM
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Yeah because all those spaces you mentioned all well known to be inhospitable to women: sexual harassment, groping and generally abusive behaviour
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 07:14 PM
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No it’s because tinder is fucking awful for women, it’s pretty well known that the guys on there are only looking for a hookup and act crazy and abusive when you meet them in person
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 07:12 PM
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This is literally 10 iq
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 07:10 PM
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This a very stupid point. At any one specific point in time only 1 third of men are going to be able to interact with a woman on the app
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 07:09 PM
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Defeatist mindset
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 06:36 PM
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I’m strictly speaking young guys like 18-27, obviously as men age they get a lot uglier. Start balding etc
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 06:35 PM
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He is - short - pasty skin - no lips - small eyes - patchy eyebrows - large eye bags https://images.app.goo.gl/kGZ647nY3iUvqiig8 Very low bar to reach. I think young Adrian Brody is very good looking, not so many people think so
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 06:29 PM
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That’s not what “average” means. Let’s say ugly is (1-3) average is (4-7) and attractive is (8-10) I’m willing to say that a third of the men around my age are better looking than him or about the same
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 06:16 PM
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Yeah I don’t believe you. Go google them to remind yourself. I see better looking guys all the time just walking outside. If this were actually true then all men most be incredibly ugly which is not the case
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:27 PM
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It must be a hellscape for the average women because the last time this was brought up many men were calling Rihanna and Renata Ri average or basic looking. Those guys are incredibly average. It is a very low bar
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:26 PM
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I take back Andrew Garfield on second thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:04 PM
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We’re not talking about ancient societies. We’re talking about modern western culture and women shaving their pubic hair is a relatively new social norm hairstyles ? You can be serious. If you’re trying to tell me that there’s a top female porn actress that is obese or overweight then i don’t believe you. Women however are generally only highly attracted to one body archetype of man. This is total BS, the current most attractive male celebrities according to many women are literally timothee Cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:01 PM
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I have a tone of friends that have dated ugly guys and if you ask most women they’ll tell you the same. It’s basically a trope at this point that ugly guys can make up for it by being really funny, chill and charismatic. OVERALL most people (men and women) are superficial the majority of the time. But there’s never going to be a definite answer on who dates down (in terms of looks) more
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 02:50 PM
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I have no idea what you’re trying to say. He is very average looking, so is Tom Holland, Andy Sandberg and Micheal Cera There is not a single average looking female celebrity that has a lot of male fans. Not only that there a significantly more movies staring ugly male leads than ugly female leads (every movie with a fat Jonah Hill and a fat Seth Rogan)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 02:47 PM
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Women shaving has become a social expectation now, for many reasons. Porn is one of them There are a lot of men who are very famous that don’t get fanpages dedicated to them or edits made for them or go viral on TikTok because a women made a video calling him sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 02:39 PM
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Porn has brainwashed all men into thinking that all women should be completely hairless. I’m also pretty sure all the top porn actresses look completely the same. I never hear men talk about a celebrity being attractive that isn’t incredibly skinny. However there are a lot of women/girls that find unconventional looking famous men very attractive (like Adam Driver) or very skinny men (Timothee Chalamet) or bald men (the rock). Even genuinely ugly guys like Micheal Cera have a lot of female fans …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 01:53 PM
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I can’t tell if you guys are being intentionally stupid or this is just your natural state. Does it really need to be explained why a 18 year old dating someone who’s 45 is frowned upon
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 01:39 PM
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If those orgies are spreading STDs to the wider populous then that would be “harming others” wouldn’t it. What I meant by “modern trend” is that through the anonymity of the internet people are saying things they would never say to each other irl. I just find it incredibly hypocritical that the most avid consumers of porn have the most disgust and lack of respect for sex workers. Just shows how some people really revel in the exploitation of women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 01:25 PM
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This is pretty funny “bro science” but unfortunately most sexually active women are on birth control so either they’re not ovulating or their hormones are completely out of wack. Also the egg doesn’t die it’s flushed out by your period Regardless you’re making it seem like women go into heat like wild animals. Not exactly how it happens, and doesn’t happens at all to a lot of women
/r/seduction17/08/22 12:53 PM
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Not for me, but people are free to do what they wish without being shamed
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 08:04 PM
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Yeah I agree I should’ve specified sex with strangers and people you just met (including the 1st and 2nd date) as being a bad idea
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 07:49 PM
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You honestly have to know how infuriating and annoying this advice is. Point made I’m done
/r/seduction16/08/22 07:34 PM
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Everything about this reply is fucking hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 07:31 PM
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This framing is so fucked. First of all you shouldn’t date people you aren’t attracted to. Second just because is ugly or average doesn’t mean he’ll be willing to commit or that he’s not an asshole. Toxic behaviour isn’t dependant on appearance
/r/seduction16/08/22 07:28 PM
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This is just pathetic man.
/r/seduction16/08/22 07:25 PM
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So much insecurity and bitterness on display here
/r/seduction16/08/22 07:21 PM
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If I were you I would never post here again and look at more gender balanced subreddits. The men here are just using you as an opportunity to air out all their grievances with women and attacking you for wanting someone who isn’t them. It is very obvious and pathetic. We are the same age and have the same exact issues (same race too which is weird), how I’m dealing with it is just to make more friends, going out more and meeting more people. Eventually you’ll find someone that you can match with
/r/seduction16/08/22 05:13 PM
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Your original goal was to demean, it came from a place of bitterness and resentment. Enough with the insulting comments, please grow up and learn to keep your issues to yourself and respect other people. This behaviour is childish and pathetic
/r/seduction16/08/22 05:09 PM
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I can see a few pieces of advice here - move in better circles of people - test a guy - work on yourself. The rest is not needed, I don’t know why you used some girl asking for advice as an opportunity to get on your soap box and sound off on “female nature” and everything you think is wrong with modern women. It’s pretty mean spirited, unnecessary and rude. All you had to say was “avoid hooking up with guys who won’t commit you you” the rest of the first paragraph is just an expression of resen…
/r/seduction16/08/22 04:43 PM
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So that’s your goal, to stop all women from becoming sex workers as if you don’t watch porn. People shouldn’t be shamed for their actions that don’t harm others. This modern trend of trying to be as unempathetic and mean as possible is a poison to the mind. It’s just bringing back childish middle school bullying, it’s immature and just shows a lack of self esteem and emotional maturity t
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 04:34 PM
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I'm far more impressed if a woman can actually keep the guy she likes not attracting him. A woman's game is different from a guys, keeping the guy they want is usually their struggle not getting him. I really don’t understand this train of thought relationships. Relationships end because of a variety of reasons. You may not think so but you are. Again dont think of it being malicious. Most of the time it's purely friendly and unintended. I literally have no idea what we you think are even compet…
/r/seduction16/08/22 04:28 PM
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Terrible advice
/r/seduction16/08/22 04:14 PM
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This is obviously not true by your own logic. If a guys has loads of options for casual sex he’s not going to settle down into an exclusive relationship with anyone one regardless of what they look like
/r/seduction16/08/22 04:01 PM
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This sounds more like you’re laying out your issues with women rather than giving out any advice. I mean she already said she’s not interested in hookups, she already said she’s never dated before (so has no “emotional baggage”) and she’s obviously single
/r/seduction16/08/22 03:58 PM
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Some problems would go away, new problems would arise
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:36 PM
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You havent been around as long as I. One cannot argue against results at the end of the day. Let’s remind ourselves that you, a man, are describing to me the ins and outs of female friendships something you have no first hand experience in You're easily impressed I’m not, being charismatic, conversational and magnetic are not easy skills to master Not that impressive, they just won the generic lottery That’s a good point Women are in competition with other women, youd have to painfully naive to …
/r/seduction16/08/22 03:34 PM
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I don’t understand how you think think this works. I’m impressed by my friends that are good with guys but I’m also impressed by my friends that get really good grades, are really good looking, make a lot of money and travel a lot. So I don’t know what you mean by “ups her stock” or hierarchy as if we’re all in competition. It’s supposed to be a friendship not a battle royale
/r/seduction16/08/22 02:25 PM
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If I’m going take a guess it’s that your pictures aren’t high quality enough. Most guys have a lot of awkward weird pictures, that or your face isn’t shown clearly (sunglasses, at a distance)
/r/seduction16/08/22 01:30 PM
1

Honestly I have no idea what you’re saying. Aren’t men impressed by their friends who attract a lot of good looking women ?
/r/seduction16/08/22 01:26 PM
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Yes because no woman ever has ever been in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:21 PM
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I know you can read. I said what I mean. Nowhere did I imply having standards itself is an issue. You can try and gaslight all you want. I’m talking about the endless ridiculing and “jokes” which I’m assuming you engage in based on the ridiculousness of this comment. “Town bicycle”, “land whale” and “cock carousel” seem to be the most common insults right now
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:19 PM
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“Land whale” “town bicycle” “ran through” “for the streets” “cock carousel”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:03 PM
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I don’t think casual sex is good. It’s likely unsafe and emotionally unfulfilling. But the deranged soulless way men talk about women is shocking to me. The same guys who say women treat short awkward men terribly relentlessly attack obese women, promiscuous women, older women (how dare she age) and single mothers. Super fucked up and immoral
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 05:12 AM
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I don’t really understand the “perceived value” comment. If someone attractive is giving you attention and you respond to it, why does that mean you think you’re better or more valuable than someone less attractive.
/r/seduction16/08/22 03:42 AM
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This reminds me of the meme of an overweight reddit mod with a neckbeards calling women ugly from behind a keyboard
/r/seduction16/08/22 03:36 AM
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I don’t really mean “listen to women” as in take their advice in dating. I also mean it in the general sense that they befriend women, talk to women and socialise with women in their daily life What you’re describing is the defeatist mindset I’m talking about. No one can half ass anything and expect great results. I just can’t stand how much of the dating conversation are centred around apps as if that’s the only way to socialise. It just signals to me a lack of willingness to inconvenience your…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:18 AM
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I’d like to know where you’re getting these numbers from because last I checked 49% of young men are in LTR. There are a lot of male sluts yes that’s true. Just go on tinder or bumble as a women and you’ll see how much “effort” is being made by 90% of the men on there. Not much. I’ve also heard countless stories on r/tinder and r/seduction of men being able to turn their fortunes around by being proactive and actually listening to women. It’s the defeatist mindset that’s the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:36 AM
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I don’t believe that the “33%” number has anything to do with womens standards. I could just as easily say that it’s the men that don’t go outside and spend all their time watching porn and playing video games. Easy quick fix
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:21 AM
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Also think about how for men “trying” just means making a half assed profile on a dating app
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:09 AM
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/03/29/share-americans-not-having-sex-has-reached-record-high/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 12:17 AM
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Yes I very much disagree completely for MANY reasons - it encourages men and women to be lazy (the don’t romantically pursue people IRL or go socialise) - it encourages pathological behaviour (sexual harassment and stalking) - allows some men to become mega sluts - it causes people to be waaayy too superficial - overall just facilitates hookup culture - allows ghosting - overall reduces social activity and causes some people to become depressed
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 12:12 AM
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It’s an artificial narrative because the majority of adult men are in relationships and a super majority of young men are sexually active. The issue is that OLD ≠ reality. All the apps have a stark gender imbalance. The difficulty of OLD has everything to do with male promiscuity and male degeneracy more so than anything related to “Womens standards”. When people went outside and socialised more none of these problems existed because it’s much easier to fall for somebody when you can see them an…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:30 PM
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So that’s the origin of all the current dating issues, women sleeping with too many men ? I thought it was that they’re not sleeping with enough men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:21 PM
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We’re not denying/downplaying anything. You’re the ones that created the “80/20” narrative which doesn’t reflect reality in any substantial sense. Anything that goes against this artificial narrative is “lies”. Multiple things can be true at once, which seems impossible to grasp for most
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:18 PM
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The idea of a “mate” is a recent invention. Humans used to live in communities with frequent social interactions with many people. We didn’t live in an isolated home with only one other person. Until recently everything that falls under “romance” would be reserved for the relationships between 2 men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 10:26 PM
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Most men as they age start balding become overweight. Seems like you need a bit of a reality check
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 09:31 PM
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Yeah that makes sense, if you’re only interested in hooking up it’s best to signal that early
/r/seduction15/08/22 06:17 PM
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It feels disingenuous and pandering. The second one is too sexual also
/r/seduction15/08/22 06:05 PM
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I really hate #1, might just be me tho
/r/seduction15/08/22 05:57 PM
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Damn I only got 4 years left then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:48 PM
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No one understands my point. Let me be clear I’m not saying it’s wrong to be unhappy that you’re single. I’m saying being single shouldn’t wreck your life or cause serious depression. The goal should be: I’m happy and satisfied with my life and a partner would add to that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:36 PM
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I don’t even understand this perspective. Aren’t those same guys also aging and wanting to settle down at some point ? Why are they now “too good” to marry the women they used to date
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:28 PM
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That’s true but usually by that point it’s too later to be important.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:25 PM
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What I’m saying is that guys usually won’t ask those questions in the initial stages of dating. That comes up later on when it’s no longer matters much
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:25 PM
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First of all a lot of you guys are waayy to comfortable posting about your attraction to teenage girls. Most of whom are child btw. Secondly the fact that this topic even needs to be “debated” is insane to me. This is literally common sense, not only that no man has disagreed with me or said otherwise should tell you something. I’m sure teenage boys rate their first time positively because they have nothing else to compare it to and bad sex > no sex. Another thing if it’s awkward and uncomfortab…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:14 PM
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I mean I doubt most guys even ask those questions. So there is no “deception” involved
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:58 AM
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“She thinks she can do better” = she doesn’t want to be treated like shit. You’re next comment will be “ugly women are stupid if they think a man hotter than them want them for anything other than sex”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:46 AM
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Isn’t that what they’re always telling women to do anyway ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:44 AM
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The “town bicycle” can just move to a new town and no one is the wiser
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:41 AM
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What do you mean “deserve” if they meet someone and both people agree that they’re going to be in a mutually beneficial monogamous relationship then they deserve not to get cheated on. Is the man being held hostage here, what are you trying to say ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:40 AM
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Most women masturbate, shes gonna know a lot more than you. Some guys really think women are basically sex dolls just waiting for a man to fuck her. Insanity
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:57 AM
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I mean he would probably be pretty weirded out and depending on how attractive the women is get upset
/r/seduction15/08/22 03:07 AM
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I don’t understand, what does she say when you confront her about this ?
/r/seduction15/08/22 02:34 AM
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Men who have actually had sex with female virgins will tell you otherwise. They’ll say the experience was awkward and uncomfortable Honestly man it really sounds like you’re incredibly sexually inexperienced. I really don’t know what you think you can “teach her” about her own body. Like this whole post sounds like creative writing Women who have had lots of sex before know what they like and are easier to please. They’re also going to be willing to do more “kinky” shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 02:11 AM
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Being honest is the best policy, it will save you time, money and your conscience. Just invite them over to your place to watch nextflix and then go from there.
/r/seduction15/08/22 12:31 AM
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Wonder what the reaction would be if a woman said this to a man
/r/seduction15/08/22 12:26 AM
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You’re right I could’ve been more specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 11:44 PM
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It was advice, advice doesn’t have to be easy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 10:39 PM
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Don’t engage with young immature women. Impossible I know
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 06:16 PM
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Are they “assholes” or are they just confident and assertive. Regardless if they really are genuine “assholes” they probably only get away with that behaviour if they are rich and successful or very attractive which most men aren’t so it’s bad advice to emulate them. Even so why would you want to attract the same women who engage with rude obnoxious men ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 05:40 PM
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The last paragraph just sounds like an incel revenge fantasy. If she’s attractive at 20, she’s gonna be attractive at 40 for her age group. What’s the though process here ? As if men 40-70 are dating 18 year old college girls. “All the dudes she rejected for chads” ? Really ?
/r/seduction14/08/22 11:56 AM
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This says more about you than anything else. Feeling superior to people because they use instagram is narcissistic. Reddit, YouTube, and guide etc are not more productive than instagram. Some people need a creative outlet to express themselves All this post tells me is that you have low self esteem and need to assert yourself above other people to feel “powerful” which is pretty pathetic. Of course people put on a fake front on social media and that doesn’t mean they aren’t insecure, but calling…
/r/seduction14/08/22 11:49 AM
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Modern women are disgusting whores who give it up to any Chad that approaches them. She’ll never be able to pair bond with her equal 5 mins later if she doesn’t fuck you by the 2nd date she’s using you for your resources and NOT attracted to you, women who put out are mentally ill and unnaturally afraid of sex
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 04:33 AM
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I don’t think the points your making are mutually exclusive to what I’m saying. There is a trend where men only befriend women they are physically attracted and have no regard or respect for the ones that aren’t. In this case every “friendship” being formed has ulterior motives If he can’t comprehend or concept of a deep platonic relationship with a woman and sees the only opportunity for that in a romantic relationship by extension he sees all friendships with women as one step away form dating…
/r/seduction14/08/22 02:18 AM
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The solution here isn’t to stop being friends with women entirely. The solution is for you to stop seeing women as literally only opportunities for sex and romance and see them as equals to you like you would see a man. When a guy says they can’t be real friends with women it’s because he only “befriends” women he’s attracted to and uses it as opportunity for sex. Like women don’t having anything to offer in a genuine friendship, the only thing they offer is sex I don’t even understand what you’…
/r/seduction13/08/22 11:44 PM
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I’ve been saying the same thing but life is about balance right. Most men don’t have balance in their life and it is my belief that they attribute all of the disfunction in their life to a lack of romance What I’ve discovered in the course of research is that human society used to be a lot more social and focused on community and male friendships used to take the place of modern day romance in all forms except sexual. So basically the idea that heterosexual romance is the pinnacle of human inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 10:15 PM
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I don’t believe in “romantic desire to the extreme” A lot of this unhappiness is caused by overall bad social relationships and a general dissatisfaction with life, combined with a disregard for friendships with women and terrible male friendships
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 10:00 PM
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Having romantic desires is very different from “I am unhappy and hate my life because I don’t have a girlfriend”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 09:43 PM
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There isn't anymore, and that's likely why male friendships have become much rarer. The destruction of the male friendship is entirely due to cultural reasons. Toxic masculinity and the invention of the concept of homosexuality. Men don’t kiss each other anymore because it’s taboo The presence of women in formerly male spaces drastically changed the social dynamic and caused men to become more competitive and to focus more of their energy on pursuing women and less of their energy on forging fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 08:04 PM
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Alot of casual sex is probably extremely bad for both men and women. But the constant slut shaming and degrading language needs to stop. I know it won’t because slut shaming is just how men seem to bond with each other now
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 07:24 PM
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What does the sexual revolution have to do with anything ? My entire point was that if men had more intimidate and nurturing friendships they wouldn’t have such a desperate and destructive need for a sexual and romantic partner and that point has been proven. I never said male friendships can 100% replace a romantic and sexual relationship with a woman In ancient times, men viewed man friendships as the most fulfilling relationship a person could have. Friendships were seen as more noble than ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 06:55 PM
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The idea that romantic relationships are the be all end all of human interaction is a completely modern idea and a recent invention. The fact that many people believe that the only place they can have true emotional and physical intimacy is in romantic relationships is the origin of the problem. In modern society friendships (especially male friendships) are limited because of economic and industrial reasons. The concept of suburbia where every family is in its own atomised house with limited so…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 06:41 PM
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https://www.artofmanliness.com/people/relationships/the-history-and-nature-of-man-friendships/ Male friendships during the 19th century were marked by an intense bond and filled with deeply held feeling and sentimentality. Male friendships in many instances had a similar intensity as romantic relationships between men and women. the idea that these ardent friendships in some way compromised a man’s heterosexuality is largely a modern conception. In ancient times, men viewed man friendships as th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 06:07 PM
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Those evolutionary explainations are always post hoc generalisations https://www.artofmanliness.com/people/relationships/the-history-and-nature-of-man-friendships/ Plenty images here of straight men kissing and hugging each other taken just a couple decades ago. It wasn’t because of sex segregation, it was because women were seen as physically and mentally inferiority and relationships between men were seen as the most important intimate relationship of your life
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 05:54 PM
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Has nothing to do with evolution. Male friendships used to be a lot more intimate than they are now. It used to socially aceptable for men to hug and kiss each other, hold hands and sit on each other’s laps platonically. This goes back all the way to Ancient Greece. It seems like this is one of the main causes of all of this romantic disfucntion
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 04:35 PM
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If their feelings are “life isn’t fair” then they’re correct because it isn’t. Wallowing in misery isn’t the solution. Accept yourself, strive for better “Lord, grant me the strength to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 04:20 PM
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Why only fans ? Get rid of free porn that exploits women. Get rid of video games and streamers so men go outside. Make cities more walkable so people are forced to exercise. Built social gathering areas so people can hang out outside in groups. Get rid of all work from home so people are forced to interact with their coworkers
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 04:18 PM
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Misogyny is only going to make your life worse not better. Let go of your obsession with women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 04:15 PM
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“These things” could be height, good looks and rich parents. So no that’s not what I meant
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 04:07 PM
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Let’s remind ourselves what I’ve been saying: improve your life in all aspects and you’ll be happier don’t be desperate when dating don’t offload all your issues onto a potential partner be the person you would like to date develop emotional maturity and fulfilment Where’s the gaslighting ???
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 04:06 PM
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Those men probably have many other things going for them which you probably do not. It’s still good advice
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 04:04 PM
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Yes. That doesn’t mean they are happy and satisfied in their relationships. You seem very immature and need some growing up to do before you can get what you want. You can say immature men date. Obese men also date, that doesn’t mean “lose weight” is bad advice. We’re not all the same
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 04:01 PM
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“Emotional intimacy” is not exclusive to romantic relationships. People are more likely to be less lonely in relationships because the people who form LTR usually already have lots of friends and good social connections. You can establish meaningful social interactions while single
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:58 PM
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What you’re describing is desperation. Which a lot of people find off putting. You should be looking for someone who you are emotionally compatible with, who supports you and who you share values with. You’re being superficial. Do some introspection
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:54 PM
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What do you mean ? I’m happy single, that’s what I’ve been talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:17 PM
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But what if your available social circle and family are a bunch of raging arseholes who it would be better to not associate with, to protect your mental health from being even worse? See this is your problem. You don’t have any supportive friends and no outlet for emotional intimacy. Building strong social networks is the first step It's still a deep-seated, fundamental emotional and biological need. Pretending it doesn't exist doesn't make it go away. What is the emotional need exactly ? Emotio…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:16 PM
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Main reason would be I’m pretty introverted
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:09 PM
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I’m a straight woman and I don’t date. Done
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:55 PM
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That mentality is the origin of your frustration and unhappiness. It is never just one thing that causes pervasive feelings of misery and dissatisfaction. A lot of men fall into toxic mindsets of obsessing over women and hating them and blaming them for all of their problems. The cause of this is multifaceted. A lot of men gain self esteem only through validation from women and a lot of men will not allow themselves to have emotional intimacy with their male friends. That’s the origin of the pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:50 PM
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I sympathise with that but the I don’t like how a lot of men lay blame at the feet of “Womens standards” when the problems are economic and industrial for the the most part
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:44 PM
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You need to learn the difference between “need” and “would like”. Learn to love yourself and find joy in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:42 PM
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Yes of course
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:41 PM
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By “problems” I mean a lack of happiness and a dissatisfaction with life. That will not disappear with a girlfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:39 PM
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Yes because the the incel mindset is self destructive and damaging. Those guys have high levels of social disfunction and have their minds poisoned by apathy, nihilism and misanthropy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:38 PM
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There’s a big difference between “I love my life but a partner would be a benefit” And “I hate my life because I don’t have a partner”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:35 PM
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Your friendships are obviously not satisfying enough if you feel that level of loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 01:28 PM
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Focus on having lots of single friends. That’s the best advice I can think of
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 01:25 PM
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The goal isn’t dating success. The goal is self actualisation and a complete fulfilling life. How do you think men even build status ? Obsessing over women to the point of self destruction is what’s making men depressed. Women shouldn’t even be involved here
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 01:23 PM
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I saw the title and knew that I was gonna be linked somewhere. I stand by the fact that most of they guys who are “depressed from loneliness” have no close intimidate friendships and don’t talk to their family. So what exactly is the origin of the problem here ? If you have a full happy life with regular exercise, a good diet, enjoy your work, have many hobbies and many close fulfilling friendships you won’t be depressed because of lack of romance. That’s a fact. If you do get a gf your problems…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 01:20 PM
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Why is that bad advice ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 01:12 PM
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The Boy Scouts was a free for all hunting ground of child rapists and pedophiles. It should’ve been disbanded, but they are the ones that asked girls to join because of lack of members I think everyone, regardless of gender, need to do some introspection and look at their toxic behaviours as women vote with their affection which men value above almost anything else. What does this even mean You don't want to hear it, but the fact is women vote with their pussy. No idea what you’re even saying If…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:49 PM
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That’s not even true, I’m taking about modern hookup culture and the things guys say like “if we haven’t has sex by the third date I’m done with her”. As far as I’m aware the “courting” used to take months so this is a recent change. Men hounding women for sex is what’s driven women off dating apps and probably a lot of the reason many women have quit dating entirely The problem also isn’t that women don’t look at “average guys” it’s that men are only dating through apps and this is probably the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:40 PM
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Anorexia and bulimia are strongly correlated with genetics https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3010958/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:09 PM
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They could be nervous to meet you in person or just busy
/r/seduction13/08/22 04:22 AM
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Not true statistically
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 04:20 AM
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A lot of guys need therapy to realise a woman isn’t going to solve their problems and fix their life and to stop relying on female validation to support their self esteem
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 04:19 AM
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You need to go outside and socialise, build a large circle of friends. I also suggest doing some serious work to improve your dating profile
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 04:16 AM
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You’re the only one trivialising mens loneliness by blaming it entirety on lack of sexual success. There are a million things to address but you just straight to blaming women, where are his friends, family and community ? What is his work environment ? People like you are why mens mental health isn’t taken seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:37 AM
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Yeah so it’s the idealisation that’s the problem. If someone is at that level of loneliness than 1 million things have gone wrong in their Iife. Where are their friends and family ? All of that needs to be addressed before talking about a female partner
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:35 AM
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How often do you think women are killed by other women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:33 AM
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That’s not even true, many men are in sexless relationships for a variety of reasons. What I’m saying is that only caring about sex is soulless and mentally destructive. Even if I agree with your misogynistic worldview that women are “gatekeepers” don’t it logically follow that they will be more picky due to men relentlessly pursuing them for sex only. Don’t you think that can get exhausting and infuriating. That is how men have ruined modern dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:32 AM
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So if you don’t like kinky sex you’re “defective” ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 01:02 AM
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You don’t speak for all men. Just buy a sex doll and hire a maid your life will be a lot happier
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 01:00 AM
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No one’s killing themselves just because they’re single Everything you’ve been saying has been nonsensical garbage please touch grass. If a women is dating a guy that is openly and aggressive asshole she’s probably the same or seriously mentally ill
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:59 AM
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I appreciate that, but in fairness that strategy isn’t wise if your goal is physical safety
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:57 AM
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There are basically no real “soft harems” forming and no men is reproducing with 17 women. None of that is happening. Of course there are male sluts but the reality is that women are just as single and lonely as men are but they handle it in less destructive ways. Every single issue plaguing the “lonely single man” women also experience to a lesser degree. Sexlessness rates are rising for women as well. Instead of talking about meaningful ways to make peoples lives better it turns into a juvenil…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:53 AM
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You’re completely missing the main issue with modern dating is that men think the only thing women offer is sexual access which is toxic and destructive. Pursuing NSA casual sex for both genders makes them unhappy in the long term. And it’s mens drive for causal sex that has destroyed dating apps and driven women off of them. You’re mad women hookup with attractive men. Why blame women and not those attractive men. Today now even ugly guys only want a ONS with women who are at the same level as …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:17 AM
-1

What’s your advice here ? Participate in degrading sexual acts you don’t enjoy to please your boyfriend ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:11 AM
-8

I think the reality is a lot of young women do not have firm boundaries and are easily manipulated and participate in sexual acts that they later regret and learn from. Especially because of the current hookup culture. What I know from the majority of the women the have casual hookups. They only have penetrative sex with a serious boyfriend or long term friend. I really don’t think there’s any evidence or foundation to women having any form of a M-W complex Curious to here your examples though
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 07:44 PM
0

None of this is remotely true, just the misogynistic ramblings of some one with no knowledge of casual sex and why women participate in it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 07:27 PM
2

It happened last month in Sudan https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2022/jul/13/sudan-woman-faces-death-by-stoning-for-adultery-in-first-case-for-a-decade
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 05:29 PM
6

Women are treated more harshly for sleeping around TODAY too. Men constantly say they think promiscuous women are disgusting whores without self respect yet they want someone will sleep with them on the first date and be amazing at it. That’s the Madonna whore complex. Just think of the most common insults for women “slut” and “whore”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 05:27 PM
2

I’m talking about men stoning women for adultery. Women expected to be virginal on their wedding day. Is this really new information to you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 05:09 PM
-1

That’s why he needs to ASK. You can’t just assume things and then say you were deceived
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 05:08 PM
1

Read a book in the park. Make some friends
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 04:36 PM
5

When I go outside i see men of all heights and appearances in relationships, so I don’t have any idea what you’re talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 03:57 PM
25

Please get off the internet for your own mental health
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 03:40 PM
1

I really doubt she’s asking advice on how to find a one-off sexual hookup. Men deserve people being polite to them in public just like women do. Asking out men like that is dangerous and with give you a bad reputation. Terrible advise all around
/r/seduction12/08/22 03:09 PM
1

You need to grow up and ask the girl you’re interested in “have you had casual sex in the past”. There is no deception in waiting for sex, she could’ve been violently raped and that’s why she’s waiting now, because of fear and trauma There’s not danger of catching feelings for a ONS because you’re never going to see them again and the interaction is ONLY sexual, ie no dates involved to confuse things
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 03:05 PM
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It’s not a “bad situation” unless he’s only with her for sexual access
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 03:02 PM
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Fundamental lack of understanding of what the Madonna-whore complex is because the women you’re describing (who enjoys having “kinky sex” but won’t do it with her husband, because of disgust with herself) likely don’t exist Madonna-Whore complex comes from millennia of history of men subjugating women for being sexually promiscuous outside of marriage There’s no reason to “project onto men” sexist attitudes about promiscuous women because they are extremely vocal about how disgusting they find w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 03:00 PM
1

If he’s not willing to pay for $5 coffee in what world would you expect him to pay for a vacation or an expensive meal. What you’re saying makes no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 11:51 AM
3

How is this friendzoned? She should ask him out when they at least know each other more. It is weird otherwise. Do really want her to get a reputation around campus as someone asking out strangers
/r/seduction12/08/22 08:31 AM
3

I think the issue is here that most of the guys responding are just extremely desperate and lonely and are just giving advice that would work on THEM. Not realising not all men are the same
/r/seduction12/08/22 08:28 AM
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Why are we pretending women are this separate alien species? It is literally exactly the same. Asking out a complete stranger like that is extremely weird abnormal behaviour and it’s unnatural, whether it will “work” or not
/r/seduction12/08/22 08:26 AM
1

You could also surgically remove your testicles
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 03:53 AM
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Of all the god awful advice I’ve seen on reddit, this is top 5
/r/seduction12/08/22 03:48 AM
3

Please do not follow any of this terrible advice, just make casual conversation with them and try to find some common things to talk about like you would with a woman you’re trying to befriend then ask their social media. Asking out a completely stranger right after saying hi is literally insane and will make you look strange and desperate . Best of luck
/r/seduction12/08/22 03:45 AM
2

77%
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 03:04 AM
5

Not all women think the same - shocking. I am being completely honest ok, I said you were above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 02:52 AM
5

Self confidence is important !
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 02:43 AM
3

Above-average. Your advice is probably correct
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 02:10 AM
2

Maybe 15%, I don’t think my taste is universal though
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 02:09 AM
4

I don’t think he’s ‘average’ but ‘attractive’ maybe too strong. Somewhere in between for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 01:43 AM
1

Let me see and I’ll give you an honest answer
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 01:22 AM
6

I think we found the answer here man, you have an off putting insufferable personality. I suggest some introspection and therapy. Best of luck
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 01:20 AM
9

Are you aware that you are also ageing ? What’s the plan here, date women 18-25 until you’re 70 and if they don’t want you swear off women entirely
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 01:18 AM
2

There are many awful things you could say about women but what I’m saying is supported by decades of sociological study and millennial of human history and current human behaviour. How do you think modern Islamic societies exist if what I’m saying isn’t true. I can think of another example: how girls are forced to abide by strict dress codes at school and work
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 12:22 AM
1

You’re just misunderstanding what I’m saying. It’s not about whether it’s a minority or a majority (thought it’s definitely a majority seeing as even “feminist” men act like this) because the men who don’t actively participate will sit back and laugh at it happening I could list a million other examples: men lashing out when rejected, men expecting women only wear makeup for male attention, men lashing out at female streamers for not posting only fans, men attacking female YouTubers because they…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 11:59 PM
3

Book clubs definitely
/r/seduction11/08/22 11:21 PM
0

This could never work for me, I call my parents by their first names
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 11:20 PM
2

You’re arguing against a strawman. I never said men can’t have a preference for sexually reserved women. I am specifically talking about how the men who watch porn are the same ones who harass, degrade and demean sexually promiscuous women and sex workers. Are we just going to pretend that the most common insults levelled at women aren’t “slut” and “whore” Or how every couple of months men come up with new ways to attack women they think sleep around “town bicycle” “fatherless”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 11:13 PM
4

What I was trying to say is that men see women who have a high body count as less worthy right so by sleeping with her, some men see that as them making her less worthy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 09:09 PM
2

If what you’re saying is true men wouldn’t have such a disgust and disdain for sexually promiscuous women or sex workers
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 09:08 PM
4

Having a casual relationship (like FWB) is pretty different to a ONS or a ‘pump and dump’. I really don’t think a lot of men like or respect women at all. Especially the ones that don’t see any value in being platonic friends with women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:29 PM
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One other issue is that some men are willing to wait months to “pump and dump” a women so it’s much harder to avoid. Whereas if you go dutch on the first date and she leaves you know immediately
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:09 PM
3

It’s not just wanting to sleep with them. It’s the desire to use their body for the sole purpose of personal pleasure and self validation that is dehumanising. It is my belief that that’s how a lot of men look at casual sex. As just another notch on their belt. You can see this is in how men speak about the women they sleep with, a just a number “a 6” “a total 10”. Nothing about how it was or what she was like
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:01 PM
1

Of course there’s no way to really know but there are significant context clues that will give you insight into whether their behaviour was intentional. If a woman suggests going to an expensive restaurant and then makes no effort to even reach for the bill that is a significant hint. If a man is constantly talking about sex and being very physical early on that is also a sign. What you’re not taking into account is how men socially view sex with women. For most men it’s the ultimate goal and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 06:34 PM
3

It’s not supposed to be like building a dresser from ikea. Women don’t have an instruction manual. You need to get better at reading body language and being more in tune to the person you’re sleeping with. Having to instruct someone sounds like a nightmare
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 06:11 PM
2

You’re just out here showing everyone your insecurities and feelings of inadequacy. “Chad chasing “ ? Really ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 06:09 PM
2

Men don’t have it worse dating than women do. The problems we have are just different
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 03:37 PM
1

Try not to hookup with them until the 3rd or 4th date, that way you’re only left with the people that are genuine
/r/seduction11/08/22 02:40 AM
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What does this date planning involve. “Let’s go see a movie” “Sounds good” Also if you need to “entertain” your date you’re choosing the wrong women. The goal is to get to know someone on a personal level, not put on a magic show. Plenty of adult women are ok with splitting the bill too. I have no idea what “time” investment you’re referring to is that she doesn’t also have to spend
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 02:34 AM
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This isn’t just my opinion. Many surveys have been done showing that women are frequently stalked, harassed and assaulted when meeting strangers from OLD. I have no knowledge of people meeting strangers from social media DMs but as far as I’m aware those messages are seen as creepy and also unwanted. Women do not have it easier dating. At least acknowledge that you have NO IDEA what dating is like for women. There are many thing women have to deal with: pregnancy prevention, physical assault, ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 11:56 PM
1

Sexually harassment is unwanted sexual attention. UNWANTED. You can see a lot of messages like that on r/tinder too. There are so few women on tinder because men treat women like sex dolls, it’s pretty dehumanising. Even the women who are looking for a hookup want to be treated with respect. If men raised their standards and only swiped on women they genuinely want to date the problems you’re describing wouldn’t exist. Even the men women do end up going on dates with are often sexually aggressiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 10:49 PM
2

Sexual harassment, being passed over for promotions, general lack of regard
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 09:14 PM
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There is no “advantage” for women on dating apps. If there was there would be much more women using them than there are now. “Likes” on tinder mean absolutely nothing seeing as men swipe first and decide later who they want to speak to. Go on tinder as a woman and you’ll see how awful and low effort all of the mens profiles are. Why subject yourself to that ? Then take into account how often women are sexually harassed and receive sexually explicit messages.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 09:09 PM
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Go and research how many men kill their girlfriends or send them to the hospital. That should give you some idea
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 08:48 PM
3

Victim complex on display
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 08:47 PM
0

This is just a straight up lie. Are all your friends dads hot male super models ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 08:45 PM
5

In general
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 07:46 PM
5

What is a trophy if not an object? It’s purpose is to look pretty and have something to show off to people. The womens thoughts feelings and beliefs are irrelevant. It’s dehumanising
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 07:32 PM
4

Women are still subjugated by systemic sexism in the workplace
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 07:30 PM
2

Are you also bullet proof ? This sounds like the pathetic fantasies of a pre teen body, do you often dream about beating and killing women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 07:29 PM
5

Masculine martyrodom is a way for pathetic socially rejected men on the fringes of society to feel superior to women. Every issue you’ve listed that affects men also affects women. Women are more likely to live in poverty after divorce than men are. Women should not be expected to sacrifice their bodies and lives for the progression of the human race. That is cattle slavery
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 07:27 PM
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It is men sending millions of men to die in wars, genocide, mines etc etc not women. Men are subjugated by men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 07:23 PM
1

That’s 90% of guys
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 03:47 PM
3

Men will fuck couch cushions, corpses, wild animals, babies and plastic dolls. Not a very high bar. Women get mocked and bullied for not shaving by the general public. That’s what I was referring too. Plenty of broke ugly men still ask their partners to shave their pubic hair and it’s just a positive feedback loop
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 02:52 PM
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Gay men buy dildos women buy vibrators. Hope that helps
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 02:06 PM
0

You’re just externalising your hatred and resentment for yourself onto other people. That’s why you take pleasure in peoples suffering. No it’s not normal to see people seriously injure themselves then laugh. Is it more pleasurable for you because you enjoy making someone feel good or is it because you gain all your validation from womens approval and desire. The second is incredibly pathetic and toxic
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 10:01 AM
1

Here’s an insane idea, stop being a sociopath and treat everyone with kindness and respect
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 09:48 AM
2

Well if you really only see women as objects to fuck and don’t care about their wants or desires why not buy a sex doll and leave women alone entirely. Of course this is all bullshit and lies driven by insecurity and bitterness. Someone who is actually secure in themselves wouldn’t take pleasure in seeing people suffer just because they rejected you. Someone who is actually socially conscious knows that the best way to get what you want from people is to treat them with respect. The guys that ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 09:46 AM
5

Ease at conversation, comfortable around many people, confident, witty and humorous
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 07:54 AM
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That’s bullshit go on tinder as a woman and you’ll see how most profiles look like they were created to be intentionally bad and unappealing. Some mens profiles are outright disgusting and disturbing. It’s mind numbing, I don’t know how people put up with it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 06:17 AM
3

Not true a lot of the famous TikTok guys who have millions of female fans paint their nails. You’re probably not well informed on what women like
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 05:54 AM
1

No idea, men will fuck children, corpses and goats
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 05:19 AM
1

“Most men” have girlfriends and don’t participate in misogynistic Internet forums with other undesirable losers
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 05:18 AM
13

Women get mocked and derided by their friends, family, romantic partners and the general public when they expose themselves outside or online with body hair. I don’t like being asked if I’m making some feminist statement when not shaving it’s ridiculous. Just because you don’t find someone attractive that is not free license to bully and attack them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 05:11 AM
3

Thank god that thing about sex drive isn’t true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 05:07 AM
12

The thing is women are expected to have long painted nails or at least well maintained manicured nails while men just have to cut theirs at least. Another double standard Being tall, confident or muscular is not related to personal grooming. Women also have to short, flirty or curvy. For personal grooming and hair removal there is a clear double standard and hypocrisy here. There are basically no grooming expectation men have. It’s just Unrealistic beauty standard forced onto women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 05:00 AM
1

Weekly
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 04:52 AM
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I think most women would prefer to have the freedom men have when it comes to body hair and have the choice whether to shave or not without being considered ugly. Shaving pubic hair is especially ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 04:51 AM
5

The man is also making the choice to reproduce with an older women so why is he not equally to blame
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 12:10 AM
1

The entire idea of women seeing men as “success objects” demonstrates a flawed understanding of what objectification means. When men observe women they first look at certain specific body parts and if think the woman is attractive enough the imagine her in sexual circumstances. They think about fucking her. That’s why every man interpret any action from a woman as a sexual invitation. If a woman is a successful female streamer it’s because all her fans are simps who want to fuck her. If a woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 07:43 AM
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There’s no evidence for that other than you’re extremely negative and vitriolic views on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:34 AM
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Can you just agree that having a set deadline “I must make him wait three month” is different than how a lot of people naturally really need to know someone and feel comfortable with them before sex. It’s not always a dating tactic or strategy. Your point is basically; he’s going to use you for sex as revenge for making him wait. When the main point of the waiting period is to actually get to know someone and develop an emotional bond with someone for men and women. The goal of dating isn’t to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 03:24 AM
1

You should take all information from dating apps with a grain of salt because of how severe the gender imbalance is on all the apps women have to be pickier to sort through all the men they are exposed to. I don’t know if you go on r/seduction but every day there is a post by a guy saying he has much more success with women when approaching them in person vs swiping right on them. I’ve been saying this constantly by none of the guys on here listen so. Personally I am done with dating completely …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 12:11 AM
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You saw the word incel and it was like a siren went of in your mind. The language he’s using is literally from incel message boards, he’s also repeating their arguments verbatim. The point I was making is valid despite the fact that that word upsets you. Any time someone ignores someone entire point because they used a word that offends them, you know they don’t have an actual rebuttal and the conversation is over FIFY
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 09:54 PM
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The thing is I actually made a valid point but your brain shut down at the word “incel” even though you’re the one that used incel language in your post. The only reason you think the responses are gaslighting (even though they are just as likely to be correct as you) is because they don’t fit into your carfully constructed reality of “women are pure evil”. That’s the point I was making hope that clears things up. New rule suggestion on PPD: you can’t ignore obvious as straightforward points if …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 09:51 PM
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What evidence do you have for that other than red pill YouTube channels ? I’ve only heard women say they want someone who makes around their income. Even that is changing rapidly because of modern society. How common is the “6ft” standard anyway ? Is “my height or taller” that unreasonable considering the average woman is 5’4”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 03:48 PM
2

How old are you exactly ? Because you’re taking a comment said in jest from a random YouTube video produced by men who have made a career out of pedalling misogyny and acting like it represents all women. You see how ridiculous this reasoning is ? If you actually look at the data in almost half of modern marriages the woman earns more. The “female delusion calcualtor” has been debunked many times, it’s not based on real data. Go on it and see for yourself. Redpill/incel content has completely me…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 02:33 PM
2

Did you mean “aggression”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 02:22 PM
1

Why is it unlikely ? Because it doesn’t fit into your worldview that allows you to hate women the most ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 01:08 PM
-12

Not parroting incel talking points word for word == gaslighting
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 06:20 AM
1

Like all things it’s partly because of socialisation and partly because of biology. I don’t think the way young boys are emotionally repressed is helpful
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 01:23 AM
1

Pretty sure I just explained why
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 12:53 AM
1

It is also cherry picking to single out colonialism. I know why men commit crimes, antisocial personality disorders, sociopathy, lack of empathy, lack of emotional regulation, lack of impulse control, aggression, drug and alcohol addictions
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 12:43 AM
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Yes I’m sure it takes a lot of cunny to rape and murder little children and animals. Prisons are full of low intelligence mentally challenged men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 10:25 PM
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When women are not being pedestalized and are instead being treated equally, they misperceive that as misogyny. You have any examples of this or it just from your imagination. This has nothing with being submissive or traditional gender roles. It’s about mutual respect, if all men value out of a female partner is deference and obedience than that’s not a relationship based on real love, it’s just pure objectification. Women as a group generally do expect men to pay for dates, they expect men to …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 10:22 PM
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Many women don't mind being pedestalized by men. That doesn’t make it any less dehumanising if the attraction is mutual and the woman enjoys being devoted and subservient to her man, why wouldn't it be true love? Because love isn’t possession and ownership. You’re describing the relationship between a dog and it’s master. Women are primarily valued as people, human beings, men are primarily valued as status objects, human doings. Women are considered as prizes or accessories in society. Especial…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:41 PM
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Most men would LOVE to be viewed as sex objects by random women. They may THINK they want that because they don’t know what it means Women don't love men for who they are, but "love" men for what they got. Whether that's money or social status. So women love men for their accomplishments and achievements then, for their capabilities, social skills and ingenuity. How is that bad exactly ? women are their looks They are not, that is sexist. Would you really rather be loved for your achievements, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:56 PM
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You’re kind of missing the point. Men only form those strong platonic relationships with other men but not with women because they see women as objects When you pedestalise someone you don’t see them as an individual but above that, it’s dehumanising. Kindness and generosity is fine but it’s not the same as admiration or true mutual respect. Wanting a women who is subservient and devoted to you or to use as a sex object isn’t true love.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 06:22 AM
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It doesn’t make you gay but it’s homoerotic And who are these rapists exactly ? Men are responsible for the vast majority of child rape, rape of animals, mass genocide, gang rapes, war crimes, colonialism, torture, imperialism, slavery, biological warfare, child slavery, incest, prison rape, child pornography, sex trafficking and child prostitution. And all of the most depraved and soulless acts committed throughout history and today. Many wild animals are “stronger” and “faster” than humans. Do…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 05:50 AM
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There are literally so many men that scream from the rooftops that men are better looking, take better care of themselves, are smarter, more interesting and are better companions. While saying all women are stupid, vapid and insufferable. That is homoerotic
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:40 AM
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Been looking for this quote for ages but this kinda of explains what she’s talking about To say that straight men are heterosexual is only to say that they engage in sex (fucking exclusively with the other sex, i.e., women). All or almost all of that which pertains to love, most straight men reserve exclusively for other men. The people whom the admire, respect, adore, revere, honor, whom the imitate, idolize, and form profound attachments to, whom they are willing to teach and from whom they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:18 AM
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No one thinks that. Literally no one is saying that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 05:29 PM
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Take good high quality pictures that clearly show your face and your entire body
/r/seduction05/08/22 04:59 AM
1

Are you attracted to balding chubby middle aged men with beer bellies ? Different tastes I guess Young men are less educated than young women, they also work less and are more likely to be living with their parents than women. I’m not seeing where the lifestyle building is happening
/r/seduction05/08/22 01:00 AM
3

What you’re describing here is male sexuality which you’ve projected wholesale onto women and are now describing it as a new groundbreaking insight into how female sexuality work. Honestly this is the most absurd thing I’ve ever heard
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 09:08 PM
1

That’s happened to me many times before
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 09:04 PM
2

Every single thing you’ve said so far is incorrect. No one can analyse someone’s demeanour and body language within 5 seconds - how does that make any sense. The way it works is you can usually find someone physically attractive immediately but that doesn’t mean you want to fuck them or find them sexually stimulating. Most women aren’t going to want to fuck an absolute stranger regardless of how good looking he is. This has been stated by women multiple times on PPD and men continue to ignore it…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 09:03 PM
-2

First you say most mens profiles are straight trash then you say women have low effort profiles and they don’t have to try as hard as men. Which one is it
/r/seduction04/08/22 08:49 PM
2

That’s a lot of women if you read all the responses
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 08:30 PM
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I honestly don’t understand the desire to be intimate with an absolute stranger. There is no immediate “green light” for me
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 08:29 PM
2

You embarrassed yourself
/r/seduction04/08/22 02:06 PM
7

Girls are stupid and they have cooties. Unlike men who are smart rational thinkers
/r/seduction04/08/22 02:02 PM
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Most men are balding my mid 30s, that negates everything else
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 04:19 AM
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How many straight men do you think regularly shave their back hair or pubic hair and get manicures. Nothing you mentioned is as involved as shaving your legs and armpits, tweezing your eyebrows and styling 11 inch hair and waxing your pubic hair. It’s not comparable First of all lotion is just a moisturiser. If you’re talking about skincare products women use those significantly more than men. What “other bath products” are you talking about ? “Keeping your clothes up to date” you can’t be serio…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 08:04 PM
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There should be no “hope” of sex because the goal of a date should be to get to know someone your attraction to to see if a possible romantic relationship can form. Most of the men going on dates don’t have expensive cars. Do women usually ask men what cars they have before dating them ? Also none of the grooming men do involves removing all trace of body hair from their body and putting on a full face of makeup so it’s not comparable
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 05:22 PM
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It’s unfair if one person has the wrong impression of the boundaries of the relationship. Can lead to a feeling of betrayal
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 02:48 PM
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Also negging, get rid of that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 02:46 PM
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Women are also expected to spend their time/energy/sanity on men. How do you think time works, that only one gender can experience it? Women are also risking their physical health and safety when dating. Women also invest more time in extensive grooming practices Why is it that women have the “greatest potential reward” when it is obvious men have a much higher desire for dating
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 09:45 AM
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Old man yells at cloud. How dare young people have self confidence.
/r/seduction03/08/22 09:38 AM
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Their high-pitched moaning and crying makes them sound even more like young innocent “school girls“ and appeals to a lot of men. It is common for women in Japan to act coy and shy (including high pitch voices) when they are interested in a guy, and men tend to be very receptive to this form of femininity. It’s the performance of children and the costume of children just as much the appearance of children that is attractive. the more patriarchal the societies the more childlike and submissive wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 04:34 PM
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You can't just expect people to believe that men can't tell the difference between 20-year old and 30-year old women. I’m not saying that, what I’m saying is that having an attractive face and being in shape is much more important than age. I’ll stand by the fact that a lot of the obsession with age isn’t related to appearance but fetishisation of youth. A women dressed like an adult isn’t as attractive as a women that dressed “girlish”. Like the “Japanese school girl” porn category. It’s the si…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 07:56 PM
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Like I said before, having 10% less collagen. Something that can be fixed easily with cosmetic procedure. Is nothing if you already have a naturally attractive beautiful face. If you’re average or plain looking then collagen means nothing. Your excuse for this strange obsession with 20 yo is incredibly flimsy. All three of those articles you linked the sex dolls were almost entirely covered with something. They only resembled a human because they had arms legs and a torso You yourself admit that…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 03:20 AM
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I am not an older woman. I am 20 and what your describing is honestly obscene. Outside of money, there is NOTHING attractive about an older man. They are usually overweight and bald with saggy skin. I’m sure some young women are broke and desperate but they’re not the norm. I’d like to see what studies you’re talking about because the vast majority of people date within their age group. The average age difference between couples isn’t even 2.5 years
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 12:57 AM
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Hard agree
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 11:58 PM
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Some women aren’t interested in selling their bodies
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 11:57 PM
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Those are sugar babies. You really think young women are chasing men the same age as their fathers. That is perverse and disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 11:54 PM
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It's just that compared to many women in their early 20s, she isn't especially attractive. Yeah you obviously have no idea what 20 year olds look like. This is increasingly stupid and insane thing to say. They look exactly like 30 year olds but a little less mature. They basically look like sex dolls and have all the traits that men want in an ideal woman No they don’t because they don’t actually look like women real at all. It’s literally a drawing. What human women have those same proportions …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 11:15 PM
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I honestly think this partial BS. If you’re ugly at 20 you’re going to be ugly the rest of your life. If you’re good looking at 18 you can make it last for decades long as you put in the time, effort an d money. Look at Elizabeth Hurley. Men like 20 yo for non appearance reasons like childhood innocence and gullibility
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 09:07 PM
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Those online attractiveness calculators are bullshit. If you upload a picture of her from another angle the results are going to be completely different Not all actresses and celebrities are particularly attractive to men when they're not wearing make-up. Seems like no women over 16 are attractive to you at all. I never said all actresses are attractive but you’re calling one of the most universally agreed upon most attractive actresses ugly. Not that you would even know her age if I hadn’t had …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 09:05 PM
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Technically you can get taller through surgery
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 08:39 PM
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Men judge women for their height and many other genetic characteristics. Men swipe that much because they’re looking for a ONS
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 08:37 PM
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You really think people purposefully choose to become fat ? Regardless how about bullying and mocking people for how they look is bad regardless of if you think they caused it or not
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 08:29 PM
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Yes very true. Just how men are endlessly cruel to fat women, older women and promiscuous women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 04:05 PM
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Every single thing men find attractive about women is just as arbitrary and genetically determined. They’re complaining is just self pity and a way to attack women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 04:04 PM
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Yes I find more pretty disgusting to watch
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 04:00 PM
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First of all she is literally a world famous celebrity who was in one of the biggest movies of last year and regularly gets posted on r/all. I can’t post her to rate me. Second they don’t even rate people above a 7 because they’ve created their own rating system that doesn’t reflect the realities of human attraction. No most men don’t prefer the proportion of sex dolls because most men find sex dolls disgusting and disturbing. Men who have sex dolls are regularly mocked and degraded. Their taste…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 03:51 PM
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Ana de Armas' face is still quite neotenic and pretty, but it has lost quite a bit of its youthful brightness, fullness and innocence. You are only saying this because you know how old she is. What do you even mean by “innocence” and “brightness”. She has no wrinkles or smile lines Most men wouldn't find her face very attractive without make-up. No she literally looks exactly the same without makeup, she is one of the most thirsted after celebrities especially. Most men are not obsessed with chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 02:02 PM
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You have almost complete control over your financial situation. Be grateful that you’re judged for many things that aren’t inherently biological unlike women who are only judged based on youth and beauty
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 12:20 PM
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It’s mostly jokes. The young women who do act like that will learn from their mistakes in time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 12:05 PM
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It’s obvious that the only 20 year old women you see is porn stars and instagram models. Vast majority are no where near as pretty as Ana De Armas. She is incredibly attraction and it obviously has little to do with makeup I literally have no idea why you think all 20 year olds are curvy ? Most that I’m around consistently are very skinny. Your curves are mainly determined by genetics and those don’t disappear once you turn 25 Maybe you just have some paedophilic attractions
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 11:58 AM
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No there isn’t. Most women look extremely similar at 30 to what they do at 20. Can you find one female celebrity that had a rapid decline in looks between 20 and 30 if it is so common ? The signifiers of fertility are mostly defunct now due to makeup and plastic surgery along with all the many de-aging skincare products. In “nature” and today teenage girls are raped and sold to older men. They usually have worse pregnancy outcomes too. How you age has nothing to do with gender and everything to …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 11:53 AM
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Most of the studies you linked are talking about women aged 18-19 not girls 15-17. The WHO explicitly states that there is a slightly increased risk of mortality in adolescents Adolescent mothers (ages 10–19 years) face higher risks of eclampsia, puerperal endometritis, and systemic infections than women aged 20 to 24 years, and babies of adolescent mothers face higher risks of low birth weight, preterm delivery and severe neonatal conditions. (4) Early childbearing can increase risks for newbor…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 11:40 AM
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Genetics is just going to trump age every time. Especially for non white people. Look at Ana de Armas and Alexa Demi, they’re 30+ and look better than 90% of 20 year olds. I agree that peoples looks decline with age but a pretty 35 year old is always gonna look better than an average 20 year old in my opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 02:07 AM
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Thank god for that. It’s almost over
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 01:38 AM
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Love scrolling through this thread being constantly reminded of how annoying and insufferable people think 20 year olds are. Probably partially true but still
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 01:37 AM
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I honestly think this partial BS. If you’re ugly at 20 you’re going to be ugly the rest of your life. If you’re good looking at 18 you can make it last for decades long as you put in the time, effort an money. Look at Elizabeth Hurley. Men like 20 yo for non appearance reasons like childhood innocence and gullibility
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 01:31 AM
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Data shows all adult men find 20 year olds the most attractive women out of all ages. Does this mean men will only date women 18-20? Of course not, preferences and ideals aren’t requirements
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 12:19 AM
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Can you give an example
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 12:13 AM
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Embrassing and irrelevant response. Most men are broke and there are much more effective ways to get money
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 10:24 PM
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What evidence do men have about the general level of female promiscuity ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 06:44 PM
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Like you said. It doesn’t matter how chaste she actually is according to you men think all women are whores. So that is actually no “solution”. The solution here would be for men to stop seeing women as only their vaginas
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 06:43 PM
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Expect “men are only after one thing” is actually true unlike “all women are promiscuous”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 06:38 PM
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How else could they possibly get the data
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 03:21 PM
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Then there’s an even smaller portion of women doing the same. Out of all the most promiscuous people almost 90% are men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:13 PM
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The majority of people who have had 3+ partners in the last year are men according to the Washington post
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:11 PM
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I am at a university right now. Even my friend that is boy crazy, goes out a lot and is always on tinder and hinge doesn’t have close to this much casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:08 PM
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Stop roping in “all men” to your ridiculous bullshit. Both men and women get more unattractive with age. Women are the only ones who actually try to take care of themselves though. Half of all women get married when they’re 32+. That already disproves your ridiculous bull shit
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:01 PM
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What advice from women is so bad ? TRP is literally a homoerotic cult of personality when men just circle jerk how much they hate women and worship “alpha males” and send them all of their money. Why do you need someone else to tell you to exercise, find a good job and improve your social skills. It’s not rocket science. TRP turns you into a misogynist. That’s why after going though all the BS courses you still can’t find a gf
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:35 AM
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Dumbass. Your own “peer reviewed empirical data” disproves what you’re saying. Learn how to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:30 AM
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Not true almost 40% of couples the woman earns more
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:27 AM
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I think women are pretty clear what behaviour they consider to be creepy or crossing a line. I think pretending it’s so confusing and nebulous is mostly bullshit posturing. Creepy behaviour would be: - following women around - sending her multiple messages with no response - not taking no for an answer and being incredibly pushy - not picking up on obvious signs of fear or discomfort
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:24 AM
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How it is not fair what are you even saying. This is literally “an eye for an eye”. It’s childish. Like I said if you actually cared about financial abortions it would hurt your cause if real abortion was illegal. So this is just about attacking women Who says I’m against financial abortions ? You know a mother can’t just give her child up for adoption without the fathers consent. Also men aren’t slaves. They made a stupid decision and now have to face the consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 05:33 PM
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Yea it’s so sad and unfortunate that ugly men now how to work on themselves instead of being handed a wife. The average age between married couples is like 2 years what are you talking about. There are a million ways to increase the marriage rate that don’t involve oppressing women and children. So I highly doubt this is what this is actually about. There is a lot of economic reasons men are more unhappy now that have nothing to do with women. They’re just a convenient punching bag to air out me…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 05:24 PM
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You’re really stretching the definition of cuckholdry to mean “anything I don’t like”. This has nothing to do with money because there are a million ways to critique the tax system. This is about hating women because they aren’t fucking you How about this, we maintain a DNA database and trace the biological fathers of the children and specifically force them to pay for their sire ? A lot of feminists say this should be done, would make solving rapes a lot easier. Problem is vast majority of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 04:11 PM
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What you’re completer missing is that a lot of women dress the same way all the time regardless if they’re trying to seduce / impress anyone. Girls wear shorts and crop tops to family barbecues and they wear bikinis to family vacations. They’re probably an element of wanting to impress your friends and your peers, but that’s not the main reason
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 03:57 PM
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This is in no way the main reason at all. Why compete for male attention when it’s so easy to come by ? It’s summer women are wearing less because of the temperature and they’re following modern current fashion trends
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 03:21 PM
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The second point is stupid. Women will dress the same even if they are going places they would never encounter an attractive man. This is just what the current fashion trends and popular style are. It’s also got a lot to do with with self confidence
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 03:18 PM
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The reason is social cohesion. People are just dressing how everyone else dresses and based on what they see in the media
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 03:10 PM
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Don’t feel bad for us. A lot of women wouldn’t be happier if they didn’t have to be a domestic and sexual slave for a man
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 03:04 PM
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Great idea man. Let’s let children slowly die of starvation because their mothers didn’t fuck enough incels The Darwinism is kicking in because no one wants to reproduce with gross neckbreads. Literally EVERYONE (single women, married men, people in prison) pays taxes. Even the poor single mothers pay taxes. So where’s the cuckoldry ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 02:57 PM
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A lot of complicated reason. Main one being a loss of manufacturing jobs
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 02:27 PM
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The law is not applying differently, the law should be things like “every person has complete dominion over the internal functioning of their own body” or “everyone has complete control over their reproductive organs” etc You’re comparing things that have barely anything to do to each other. Why can’t a financial abortion apply to women seeing it is about money and legal guardianships. The morning after pill is contraception. No they aren’t justified. Was the goal of slavery abolition to have mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 02:26 PM
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You’re delusional man. Middle age men have the highest suicide rates out of any demographic. Also the highest rates of opioid addiction, opioid overdose and alcoholism. Stop watching redpill YouTubers and go outside. The reason there’s so many single women asking for advice is because dating is difficult and dysfunctional for everyone right now
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 12:37 PM
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There are plenty of organisations that help children with basic things like food and shelter. Do you think those organisations will be able to help EVERY SINGLE single mom? Obviously not because they’re already running out of supplies and food Why not create a system where the mother should submit bills of child care and the govt reimbursed. That would be incredibly inefficient and even more expensive Handouts without accountability is the breeding ground for exploitation regardless of circumsta…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 12:34 PM
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Putting children in foster care is much more expensive than sending single moms a couple hundred dollars a month. What about breakfast and dinner ? What happens when school isn’t on during Christmas and summer ? Should they just dumpster dive or beg on the streets Normal people aren’t taking the approach of “let the children starve and die to punish whores for having sex “
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 12:20 PM
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How do men have more time when they die a decade earlier. Single men even sooner than that. This entire post is revenge fantasy based on a reality you constructed in your mind. Why do women need a provider when they outearn men ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 12:17 PM
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Wow it only takes a few years now for a attractive young women to become a post wall used up sad lonely social reject. I thought it was at least a decade. It’s incredibly pathetic to use words like “alpha” to describe other men. “Alpha males” are just men that other men are attracted to and fantasise about. You’re listening to fake stories by people who want to take your money The biggest beneficiaries of marriage are men. Men who are married live longer healthier lives. They have a live in maid…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 12:14 PM
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The reason BB is going extinct is because young women outearn young men. Not because of some basement dwelling neckbeards. All of civilised society doesn’t take any manosphere garbage seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 12:09 PM
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That’s great for those of us who want to eradicate child poverty and child malnutrition
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 12:07 PM
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Straight up lie. You very much can control how many matches you have at any given time. No one is forcing you to keep on swiping on men. This is true, i probably should’ve stopped swiping. I’ll acknowledge that. But let’s say I only matched with 6 guys and sent them all personalised messages. I wouldn’t have gotten one response if I did that. Who’s at fault here now ? Still me ? How does men swipping less equal to them having a better experience on the app? I’ve explained this many times You con…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 11:56 AM
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I wonder how much of it is competition and how much is anxiety about meeting strangers or disillusionment with dating
/r/seduction29/07/22 06:44 AM
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Stop obsessing over women and find a productive way to direct your attention
/r/seduction29/07/22 04:48 AM
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Let me restate my point. If you want women to have sympathy and acknowledge mens dating struggles telling them that they have none and all they have to do is “exist” to find a boyfriend is hypocritical. Men need to learn how to discuss their problems without attacking women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 03:57 AM
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There can be no “equality” here because men don’t grow children inside of their bodies. The goal shouldn’t be gender equality as in “we’re all oppressed and subjugated the same” which is what those men were celebrating. The goal should be gender liberation and the human right to bodily autonomy. How likely is it that men are going to get their “financial abortion” if real abortions aren’t even allowed? It isn’t about equality it’s about hatred and subjugation of women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 03:53 AM
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Are you just going to pretend that men now care about the physical pleasure of women they’re having casual sex with ? You would know all about that because you’re a woman that sleeps with men right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 11:26 PM
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Has nothing to do with fear, it’s about being realistic. There’s basically nothing to be gained from having casual sex with men. And you’re still compromising your physical and emotional well being. Not worth it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 11:23 PM
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Being 20 means nothing if literally everyone around you is also 18-22 and all the guys you’re interested in are 20-22 and all the girls available to them are 18-21. For reference I live on a very big university campus. The idea that anyone you follow will follow you back isn’t true. Even if you were to convinced me that a lot of men prefer to be in relationships with neurotic women there are still a lot obstacles in the way of that relationship forming you have to put yourself in social situatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 09:58 PM
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Well I’m in Canada so I don’t know how different is
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 08:20 PM
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That makes it ok to want to strip women of theirs ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:06 PM
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6ft, 6 pack ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 05:14 PM
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How incompetent are you ? Do you not know how to use google. This post was created for the expressed purpose of getting info on how to abuse young women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:25 PM
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You’re encouraging men to emotionally abuse women ? Next comment thread same guys agreeing will say it’s women fault for being abused because they “choose the wrong men” and missed obvious signs
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:22 PM
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What even are these insults you’re using ”FDS” isn’t a movement or an ideology. It’s a defunk dating subreddit. I’ve also said nothing misandrist against men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:16 PM
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I get this so much and I hate it. I can’t even describe how off putting it is
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 03:36 PM
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You’re blaming women for all your life problems. It’s pathetic childish behaviour. Grow up and take responsibility for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 03:07 PM
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Go find it yourself. It’s a very common talking point from the men here
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 03:06 PM
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Usually those men aren’t actually “indifferent” they take glee and pleasure from womens suffering. You can read the threads on abortion rights as an example of that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 03:04 PM
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Why do you even match with so many people at once then? I can’t control how many people I match with All you end up doing is giving men a shitty time on the app, and not make them want to respond. What ? How is what I’m doing making them not want to respond to other woemn You are being part of the problem not the solution, but you think men are to blame and are the ones who must change not women. Im not going to sit there messaging 30-40 people for more than half of them to not even respond. How…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:57 PM
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I’ll do that on bumble just because of the volume of matches, I’m not going to send a message to 30 people. Just the ones I think will respond I don’t get what you’re missing here, this isn’t complicated. If women are getting less matches they’ll swipe more to keep the same level of matches. The main reason they’re swiping is because they match with everyone they swipe on. This isn’t actually feasible because of a variety of reasons that need to be addressed first. But eventually doing that woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 11:42 AM
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The idea is women are more inclined to go out with guys they already know and are comfortable around so it’s better for you to go out and socialise and become cordial/acquaintances/friends with a lot of women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 11:09 AM
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It is the main cause but not the sole one. Right now men will match with people they have no intention of responding to just because they want more matches. This ruins the experience for everyone What I’m saying is if men swiped less, women would swipe more and there would be some balance. This is not possible though because of the gender imbalance on OLD
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 10:49 AM
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You can justify it with whatever reasons you want. That is what’s causing women to swipe less
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 10:27 AM
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There is a strong anti male bias present in the education system from elementary school to highschool - boys are punished more and receive worse grades for the same work. The learning style of modern schools (sit still and be quiet and obedient for 8 hours) is more suited to girls than boys. Boys excel at more interactive hands on learning. Video game addiction is a serious debilitating problem. Young men are already less suited to socialising and building relationships. Video games allow them t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 10:25 AM
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Do you see the cycle. Women leave the app (because of pathological male behaviour usually) —-> men swipe more because they’re getting less matches —-> women swipe less to manage their number of matches ——-> men swipe more. Ad infinitum
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 09:57 AM
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They probably are considering how popular “alpha male manosphere” content creators are now. Why is it so hard for you to believe that considering the rates of obesity, porn addiction, video game addiction and drug addiction these men likely have serious issues plaguing them. Young men are killing themselves more, overdosing on opioids more, drinking themselves to death more and attending university less and working less Solve these and you’ll probably see the rates of virginity go down
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 09:45 AM
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The men complaining are saying that being labelled a creep is ENTIRELY based on looks and nothing else. There are many actions that are objectively creepy regardless of looks. Attacking women because they think they’re crying wolf is fucked. Isn’t it true that alot of men have terrible social skills and can’t recognise when they’re being creepy ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 09:40 AM
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Women only swipe on 10% because they know they will match with everyone they swipe on. If men stopped swiping on every single women and only the ones they are genuinely attracted to and want to meet for a possible long term relationship this problem wouldn’t exist. Male horniness is creating and sustaining this problem. There is also the constant sexual harassment and abusive behaviour that drive women off the app. Not to mention most male profiles are horrendous and swiping is like digging thro…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 09:34 AM
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Some women are assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 09:09 AM
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I recognise the usernames, it’s the same people. These guys are literally asking for sympathy then one comment later it’s “why should I care about what women deal with they live life on easy mode” or some other bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 05:37 AM
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80% of men come here to air out their frustrations against women and comment the same incel talking points over and over again. That’s the majority of these comments right now. I don’t know if you can’t recognise it because you believe in the same twisted ideology An eye for an eye would be: men are being openly misogynist so I’ll become a misandrist. I haven’t done that, I also haven’t said I don’t have empathy for men. You’re criticising me because I don’t have sympathy for misogynistic men ? …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 05:33 AM
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I am not talking about all men, I am just talking about the men here. Why do you (a terrible person) deserve sympathy from the people who you constantly degrade and debase at every opportunity. I’m not a narcissist for having more self respect than that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 05:18 AM
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It is not the same because I don’t relentlessly attack the opposite gender for insane ridiculous reasons instead of dealing with my internal issues. This has nothing to do with “an eye for an eye” All I am saying is that the men here are not being genuine when they ask for sympathy. I am not talking about all men. Having dating struggles is not a free pass to be openly bigoted Go read through the comments even the women expressing empathy to men are getting attacked and demeaned. Again im not ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 05:14 AM
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I don’t see how our hobbies could be that much different than yours, me and my parents have a lot of similar hobbies
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:05 AM
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It’s more than looks because you want to have a pseudo father daughter relationship with your gf where you instruct and teacher her like a child
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:03 AM
1

It’s very simple man. If you don’t take no for an answer and can’t pick up on obvious disinterest, then you’re a creep. Mystery solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 03:52 AM
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The men complaining and asking for sympathy here are the same who constantly slut shame and fat shame women, invalidate and trivialise all womens issues and are just as misogynistic as possible in every opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 03:49 AM
1

If no one likes you than finding a gf is the very least of your problems
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 03:46 AM
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It’s ALWAYS the same shit man. You guys will whine and cry that women don’t care about your problems then in the same breath say you don’t give a shit about any of the shit women deal with
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 03:29 AM
3

So the solution would be to work on yourself and achieve self actualisation and self validation. A gf can’t fix your terrible self image
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 03:22 AM
5

Plenty of broke ugly men have girlfriends. The only useful advice is to go outside and learn how to socialise with women. Instead men are watching porn and “alpha male” YouTubers
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 03:21 AM
4

If he’s not super rich then he’s still low value. Her value hasn’t changed and she’s just changing her standards
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 12:14 AM
1

You're missing the hypocrisy here, in one breath they'll say that women who have causal sex are disgusting whores in the next they'll say that if a woman doesn't sleep with them by the third date (even if she has never had casual sex before) she's a manipulative gold digger using him for his resources and she's not actually attracted to him
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 10:02 PM
2

Those girls are terrible people as well in that case. You don't want them anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 09:50 PM
1

Some people are naturally confident or they can work at it for years while having no dating success. Do you really believe someone who is rude and obnoxious as well as insecure and socially awkward is attractive to women ? That makes no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 07:37 PM
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This just seems like a complete projection and a way to shit on women. Yes confidence and antisocial behaviour sometimes go hand in hand but they are very much not the same. You can be one without being the other
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 07:35 PM
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cockiness, self confidence, high self esteem and charisma are all attractive traits. Problem is socially inept men can't tell the difference between that and being an asshole or bully. That's why we get ridiculous posts like this
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 07:26 PM
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I'm not asking for your sympathy and I don't want it. It's not easy for anyone to find a boyfriend regardless of looks or gender. Finding someone that lives close to you, shares your goals and beliefs, respects your boundaries, that you are attracted to and that you are emotionally compatible with is going to be difficult. Where do you think I'm getting hit on, the grocery store, my lecture hall, the bank ? It never happens. Introverted people aren't generally going to the club, bars or parties.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 05:39 PM
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You literally corrected nothing and didn’t counter my point with anything or add anything to my statement. Your “previous dating experience” as a socially awkward woman ? Seeing as that was the subject of my statement. All your “experience” is based on your own obvious bias and false perceptions I’m not fat, but thanks for that helpful advice. This isn’t about having options for dating, this is about how social anxiety makes it hard for women to form relationships and socialise with strangers. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 05:13 AM
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You can literally go back and re read my original comment. I said nothing you’re accusing me of saying. I even said men with social anxiety have a harder time than women with the same affliction There is no fundamental truth in dating. There are just probabilities and likelihoods. Also what are you even trying to say “ all women have it easier “ in what ? Finding a spouse ? Finding a LTR ? Getting a first date ? Finding a sexual partner ? Men and women aren’t so different actually, most of the t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 03:11 AM
1

I’ve been approached before. I hated it. Being approached is not the same thing as someone asking to date you. Is that explanation good enough ? WHAT views exactly ? Because all I’ve said is that social anxiety / autism makes it harder to date irrespective of gender. How is this not common sense? I don’t know if it’s because men have such a strong victim complex they can never acknowledge a single issue they face affects women too or they just don’t want women being mentioned at all unless to us…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 01:08 AM
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Most men would much rather date an average looking 20 year old woman with autism and really bad social skills than an average looking 35 year-old woman without autism and with excellent social skills. I don’t believe this. I obviously think better of men than you do but people with social issues aren’t easy to be around and I don’t actually believe all men have a paternalistic fetish where they want someone young to control and manipulate. What else causes the desire to want someone mentally ill…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 12:58 AM
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I just don't believe that even severe social anxiety can detract from a woman's attractiveness. Have you ever met a socially anxious person. People try to get away from you as fast as possible and men will walk away mid conversation If she can muster up the courage to socialize consistently over a period of weeks or months, then she's guaranteed to get just as much, if not more, male attention than her confident counterpart. No because men actually like women women reciprocate their interest and…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 10:20 PM
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There is nothing stopping a very shy and socially awkward woman from being kind, friendly, and submissive. Being kind and friendly to complete strangers is requires social skills and social awareness. On top of overcoming the fear and anxiety of talking to new people. I’d say even if men prefer introverted quiet women who have small social circles, it is still a leap to say they also prefer autistic / socially anxious women Basically confidence is not attractive in women the same way it is in me…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 10:12 PM
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"They disagree with me they must be fragile!" <- person with a total fragile ego ALL I said was that all socially anxious people regardless of gender are going to have a harder time dating. How is this controversial in the slightest ? How is this not common sense? The fact that I got so much criticism for this milk toast offhand comment is literally insane Because you think men settle with women who have genuine interest for them? Do you really think it’s good advice to tell people to pursue a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 09:46 PM
1

It really seems you’re looking at this from the perspective of a porn plotline of “shy innocent school girl gets corrupted” not real life circumstances Social anxiety is a serious debilitating mental illness that will affect every aspect of your life. It sometimes requires years of therapy and medication to overcome. It’s not some cute fun personality quirk Think for a second if of someone who is nervous talking to a colleague a classmate or a cashier how are you going to navigate establishing a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 07:39 PM
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I think there’s been a miscommunication here about the degree of shyness/nervousness. You seem to be thinking of a woman who’s on slightly more shy than average Shy and nervous women are often perceived as more more trustworthy and feminine. Yeah this is absolutely bullshit. Maybe shy attractive women are seen as more feminine but otherwise that’s not how it works. Im assuming this belief comes from some sexual fantasy, but the “coy, shy, seductress” doesn’t exist in real life. I know men sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 05:45 PM
1

In todays time most people aren’t dating others from their social circle. They’re dating strangers
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:48 PM
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The number of children you have in no way shows how successfully your dating/romantic life is. All it shows is that you had sex at least once. If you find data to show that neurotic women are more likely to be in marriages that would be substantial empirical evidence, but obviously that isn’t the case Many men like their women nervous, awkward, shy and dependent to minimize the risk of cheating/cuckoldry. Of the insane unhinged responses this is still shocking to read. I don’t know why it’s nece…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 02:32 PM
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Jesus man, this is honestly pathetic levels of delusion and self victimisation. ALL I said was that being socially awkward makes it harder to date, HOW is that triggering you this much. I never said women have it as hard as man dating. Even though I agree with that, they struggle in different areas. You need to get offline. It seems like “manosphere” content has completely melted your mind. I touch grass constantly and funnily enough no men are falling out of the sky to ask me out
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 02:21 PM
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The fact that I got so many downvotes for common sense obvious statements just shows an insane level of male fragility and self victimisation You obviously have a strong bias that is blinding you from sound logic and reason. These statements: “Autistic women don’t have trouble finding boyfriends” “All women have to do is wait” Are absurd. You still have to put a lot of effort into finding a long term partner as a women and figure out how much of the interest in you is genuine. This should be obv…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 02:15 PM
1

If they’re a celebrity crush then they’re not a stranger
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