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Obviously it hasn't ended in marriage yet, but, luck. You do not understand how the sausage is made. They are squeezing the blood out of their remaining user base. It's a pump and dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:27 AM
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You are funny. Full of yourself and your injuries and you have joined the women are the ones to scapegoat school of thought. It is an old school, used primarily by a certain kind of man and it's been around since we have recorded history. I spent a lot of time talking to the graduates of it in the 60s and 70s. You are nothing new. 60s and 70s, so you were party to the inciting demographic. What would you say your biggest Feminist accomplishments are? Destroying the concept of a single income hou…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:14 AM
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Related: How Female Power Led To The Downfall Of The West: https://youtu.be/bOeaRd5Izoc?is=IM7yfVc-w1RmlslS Alexander Grace goes into the discrepancies between Male and Female views about rules and consequential suffering. Which I largely agree with. (See the time stamps on compassion below). This video by Alexander Grace argues that the decline of Western institutions is rooted in the increased influence of feminine psychology and values over public life. The speaker suggests that the tradition…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:06 AM
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Once again, please explain whose livelihoods specifically you are subsidizing and how women are not also subsidizing their livelihoods considering that most women also have jobs? Lion's share of taxable income comes from male taxpayers to pay for fraudulent women dominated social entitlement programs. Most federal grants cater towards minorities and women. Most scholarships cater to minorities and women. Most welfare caters ghe minorities and women. Men get no safety net socially or financially.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:48 AM
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An algorithm just connects folks, they're still strangers who have to talk and meet up and date. Do your homework, the algorithms have been tweaked to keep people coming back to the app. This is common knowledge 2018 might be before the changes, 2023? Maybe... Besides men inherently have a higher threshold to meet when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:35 AM
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I don't give a damn what you can attest to. Not one bit. But apparently you give a damn about me knowing you don't give a damn 😂 Thanks for yet another useless contribution. Have a sticker. Edit: you start by condescending, and now are playing the victim. 🙄 Learn to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:32 AM
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So any behaviour is okay as long as you believe you are the abused one? No. But calling out moronic bullshit leading to societal collapse is conflated as "abuse." Also if I wanted to start a company that explicitly only hired men I would be jammed up under the 1967 civil rights act in minutes. The inverse is not true for women. Men used to have legitimate "woman-free" third spaces, but all of these were seen as "discriminatory" and systematically destroyed. The inverse is not true for women. Hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:27 AM
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Nothing that comes from an algorithm is organic. Sure luck is involved, but when did this happen? The algorithms were most likely changed since then to promote short term dating and keep users coming back.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:04 AM
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So you're good with it? Let's change the subject and put it on you. You do not have to think I do anything wrong, it is your fault. No idea what you're trying to say here, but gynocentrism is over-represented on both sides of the aisle and is baked into all HR and Admissions offices. It is ubiquitous. There is no place for young men to organize that isn't censored or destroyed, there is no political party that takes the interest of young men seriously. We are the whipping boys for every social i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:51 AM
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I don't think any algorithms could account for if two people actually hit it off or not is what I'm gesturing at. They literally tweak the algorithm to promote short term relationships that keep you coming back.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:47 AM
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I am anti-woke because I am anti-suicidal empathy. If you keep letting rapists back out on the streets because of their demographic, you are promoting racism, not preventing it. I am tired of being punished for the behavior of men who have no business being in the country or walking on the street. I think its disgusting to ask men to subsidize the livelihoods of people that hate them and wouldn't lift a finger to help if they were in trouble. I voted for Trump because I genuinely believed that v…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:45 AM
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I was referring to American Universities being given rape stats on par with the Congo. Also, I definitely am not happy with anything going on in the Middle East. My ex was an American that lived in Saudi (well Bahrain actually), I have worked at a Middle Eastern Country's embassy, and lets just say I have been tearing apart the Iranian War narrative since it started...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:31 AM
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So you want women overwhelmed with lust and think with their vaginas. So horny slutty bimbos. I won't speak for other men, but I want someone I can trust more than anything else. I have been with "mids," and genuinely have not been bothered by it. The problem is that most modern women have no morals, overtly eschew personal accountability, and I genuinely cannot bring myself to trust them. Keep denigrating men though, you clearly have no grasp on what our side of the issue is like. Also the wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:11 AM
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I can't copy paste from your OP for some reason. Anyways I don't think you are identifying "conservative" men correctly. As a man who values faith, but is not of ignorant of secular trends, the only reason I would consider sleeping with a girl is if I don't trust the enforcement mechanism behind marriage anymore. Because at least you'd increase the likelihood of pair-bonding. I have been around enough women to know, that a lot of them can't be trusted to not act like a liberal woman. Pearl Davis…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:06 AM
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Most people hate bigots and aren't nice to bigots. I am saying you qualify as a bigot 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:59 AM
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I am saying that the personality you've demonstrated thus far is the opposite of attractive. I would actively be put off by you IRL. Brett Cooper is another example of a genuinely intolerable nominally "conservative" woman. Also the point I made was about the Sarah Stock archetype being the norm for conservative relationships. I got SO much flack when she got engaged and said the way she was posting was a red flag, too many SIMPs in the church. Women go to church to socialize, men go to pray tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:57 AM
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Projection. That's why men dont do well on a=dating apps. They want to rely on looks and nothing else. Being hot with a criminal record is enough to get women to message you. There are serial killers who get more pussy inside prison than before they were inside it. That's the patten in this sub, guys wanting stupid fickle horny women. Bimbos. That's the pattern IRL, I don't care about fucking as much as loyalty. And as much as you decry the physical side, the positive correlation between fucking…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:52 AM
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What I have said in my post. I made a whole post about the issue. I read it, I simply maintain that you lack the epistemic grounding to make the assertions you are making. So humor me, what "qualifies" as realistic to you? A 5/10 guy dating 3/10 woman? How chopped are we talking? As for personality, most modern women don't have one. Consuming products and watching trash TV shows is not a personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:49 AM
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THEY DOTN WANT conservative women. Hey Ms. Personality, do you know what Sarah Stock is? What if I were to tell you that what she did is the norm?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:45 AM
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Okay? That didn't change a thing I said. So you're trying to appeal to superficial women? Everyone who uses a dating app is being superficial, women don't even think when they swipe 😂 Ergo, the picture is the important part.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:42 AM
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That which is presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. You lack the credibility for me to take your dismissal seriously. I stand by what I said. Your basis for claiming that academia kowtows to the gynocentric whims of feminists is Charlie Kirk's grift organization's tax filings. You clearly didn't properly read my original post💀. Could you imagine me wasting my time linking you sources you wouldn't even read? Also Charlie (RIP) was a huuuuge simp and gynocentrist. Womp womp…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:36 AM
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Be realistic and stop being stupid. Realistic in relation to what? You are completely unhinged with anything to do with the male experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:33 AM
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When you have nothing else to offer. The first thing you see on a dating profile is the picture so....you're objectively wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:32 AM
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These men tend to hold the views they do because they are low on traits like empathy and high on traits like narcissism. Or high on Empathy for the people you despise. They are bitter about women not wanting to date them and so construct ideologies that theoretically punish women. Or we don't want to be forced to subsidize people who vote against our interests, conflate degrading us with advancement, or are overtly incapable of empathizing with us. I would argue that they’re non-religious conser…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:30 AM
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And they're most likely religious and serious about commitment. Compared to what? 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:26 AM
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Adults with normal IQ: Dont put your hand on the hot stove. Guys, this same chick once said she did well on dating apps because of her personality. 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:24 AM
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I literally am in the demographic, and you've got it backwards, conservative women are feminists doing the speed limit. Sarah Stock is the norm, not the exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:23 AM
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Nope, that's not how debate works. The burden of proof is on you. My point stands then. Thanks for confirming you were bad faith. Toodles. I guess actually being party to Federal Conteacting and Grant Writing doesn't count for anything with you? 💀 Sorry, Turning Point USA? The Charlie Kirk grift? Yup, its more of a grift now. You should see some of the stuff people have been digging up on their tax filings. The argument still applies, its a similar set up. I think a lot of nonprofits and ngos ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:20 AM
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Imagine being less liked than TRUMP and thinking everyone else is the problem. 100 dollars says you've never spent a day doing manual labor on a farm.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:16 AM
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Sounds like living in the ghetto. Most people arent ghetto. Factoring in global incomes, you're grossly inaccurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:13 AM
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I 100% want to see this chick's dating profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:11 AM
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It can be addressed with common sense economic policy and increased immigration. Mass migration yields major social upheaval and civil wars historically. Edit: emotionally downvoting me doesn't make you right sis 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:04 AM
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Again, do it yourself. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:03 AM
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Because I give good first impressions, so people like to get to know me more. That's cap.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:00 AM
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Birthrate decline is more than just abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:59 PM
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They've got theses things called parks. Ladies love a picnic basket. A woman would make a thread specifically for mocking the man for doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:57 PM
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I think people don't account for bad luck enough with online dating. It's not not exactly luck if you're paying to not be fucked with by the algorithm.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:56 PM
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If you feel that uncomfortable about men being held accountable, THAT'S ON YOU. Name one time you've seen a woman being held accountable for something.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:54 PM
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You guys love to pretend to be oppressed and victimized Tell me more about our "rape culture," "man-spreading" and "gender pay gap." They literally discriminate in terms of race and gender ALL the time. I have literally seen homeless men lose assistance because they were the wrong race/gender. HR and Admissions explicitly discriminates on the basis of race and gender, look at those blind studies that were referenced in that Yale Lawsuit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:53 PM
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Well, I dont tolerate bigotry, so they dont really end up in my dating pool for long. I could make a highlight reel of every time you've been Misandrist on this sub. My friends love it when I dont tolerate bigotry. What kind of "friends?" Would any of them help you move? Help you fight off a rabid dog? Go looking for you if you went missing in the woods? Tell you if they saw someone cheating on you? Tell you something you didn't want to hear?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:49 PM
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…..should men try focusing more on personality and compatibility? NAH! What exactly counts as a "personality" to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:46 PM
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Most of you can't afford to be that shallow. Can you? You talk big for a faceless redditor. Online dating is cringe, if you are not dating to get your dick wet, its not very good at setting up long term relationships. What exactly qualifies as "substance" to you? What kind of hobbies do you have that makes you feel qualified to opine on what is worthwhile?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:42 PM
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If this is the type of attitude a guy brings on their dates, it’s no wonder they’re not doing well with women. An observation of an obvious blindspot, is not an attitude. Lmao 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:38 PM
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Naive take. AI is not genuine intelligence yet. And everything requires maintenance. Edit: can't respond normally because of bad faith moderation, but I agree with you 👇
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 10:57 PM
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We all are going to get squeezed so bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 10:56 PM
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Not taxing the first million dollars you make would be huge
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 10:53 PM
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Also more research to reduce the pain and lasting damage from birth (including body changes) I am aware of a lot of comorbidities that come with child birth...it doesn't have to be lethal to be life changing. Then we better start actually looking into options to make motherhood more appealing. We could do mass deportations to lower the strain on social welfare programs, but I doubt your side has the stones for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 10:52 PM
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then you doing what you are not happy about. this is why i dont say who is unreasonable. That is not English. There is more to life than f□cking. I am doing a lot more than posting on Reddit. The point of debate is not to win over your opponent its to reach out to the audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 10:46 PM
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No, I am good on that. I don't reward bad behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 10:43 PM
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i think it silly men think it will make women want to date them. thats the reason for my post. I don't think any of us are looking to date any of the people here...💀 Telling the truth is more important than dating anyone, and a civilization ending threat is worth being candid about.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 10:40 PM
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The ones trivializing a cratering birth rate as if it won't effect them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 10:30 PM
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The birth rate argument is huge for showing how unreasonable their side is. The Soviet Union outlawed abortion because they realized their birth rate was too low. Birth rate decline begets civilization decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 10:13 PM
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You also don’t need to censor “blood” and “suicide”. We aren’t on tik tok. Reddit has so many bots moderating everything. Its arguably worse when it comes to overzealous censorship. But automod is arguably better than the Mod Team they have operating now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 10:05 PM
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Most men dont want to be the type of person agreeing with sex offenders, so there's nothing much to say. There was a prominent Nazi Party Official who pioneered some animal rights legislation. So by your "logic," does everyone who agrees that animal rights exist tacitly condone the Nazi Party? Guilt by association is genuinely an embarrassing line of argument. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 10:04 PM
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Do you actually think invoking a bunch of random malfeasants constitutes a valid argument against the concept of contributory negligence? 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 10:01 PM
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I’m a proud community college dropout making $100k What industry?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:59 PM
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This sub can demonstrate a lot of men dehumanizing women. Do these so-called "dehumanizing" views have institutional support?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:59 PM
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That and the dead bodies on the roadways...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:57 PM
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No, it's not my job to go find evidence for your claims. Or you can find evidence to try and debunk them? 😅 You aren't one of those flaccid "debaters" who say you're wrong because X said so are you? I have no reason to treat you as credible, unless you give me a good faith reason to take you seriously. "Institutional Bias in Academic Research." My criticism is you have not connected your unsupported claims to the OP claim that studies and statistics are not reliable. I am only outlining the plau…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:48 PM
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I think JustGeminiThings will be left to argue with you because I dont think I'll take this seriously. Pretty sure the Church said the same thing about Galileo at first. Also somebody better call Robin DeAngelo and tell her that Implicit Bias is no longer a real thing. (Never liked her anyway). That has nothing to do with the conversation and it's just an excuse to victim blame. If you look at the history of personal injury cases involving wild animals in national parks, its pretty clear that co…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:41 PM
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For sure, no institution of research is credible, peer reviewed studies are untrue, so what's left? Your personal gnosis? Certainly not any objective material that can be submitted to support your abundance of opinions. Skepticism tempered by falsifiable premises and empirical corroboration. I am glad you are capable of acknowledging my claims, why don't you argue in good faith and try to debunk one of them? Or you can give me a P.O. box where I can send your Family Size Lotion to. I am sure wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:04 PM
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Wrong, and wrong. Irrelevant and unsubstantiated. Let me know if you have anything substantive to say. Everything I have said above I can personally attest to observing IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:49 PM
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What is it based on besides your own confidently held opinions? Pattern recognition from myself and my peers that has been proven to be so precise that it was able to predict how women were going to act regardless of what they said they were going to do. Feminism is terrible at predicting behavior or sociological responses in men or women. It's literally a self-defeating ideology as is evinced by the plummeting birth rates of every culture that adopts it. Mmhmm. Blah, blah "CNC!" (1) You ever st…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:41 PM
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Source? Go Google the phrase "Institutional Bias in Academic Research." I have made my claim, its up to you to substantively contest it. If you can't manage that, go order a "Family Size" bottle of lotion so you and your buddies can engage in a "peer-reviewed" circle jerk. Speaking personally, I have direct experience with Federal Grants and Federal Contracting, so I have seen firsthand how these systems develop/are maintained. If that's not sufficient for you, feel free to engage in the nepotis…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:29 PM
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Wtf is wrong with you! Emotional incontinence is not an argument. Go look up accounts of the social welfare people trying to get children out of abusive households. In every scenario I have seen thus far, there is an unaccountable woman facilitating access to the abusers. (Failing to 'Choose Better'). A statistically significant (if not majority) of domestic sexual abuse towards children starts with a single mother bringing in a strange man into the home.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:12 PM
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lol so women = feminists? Then that means saying “feminists” has no real meaning and you can just say women then. Overly reductive. I am concerned with accuracy not rhetorical convenience, because I actually am trying to argue in good faith. There are women who are insulated from mainstream culture to an extent, but all who exist within our borders are affected by it at some point. Also a delineation should be drawn between unconscious bias and cogent bias in women. From my POV, You want to call…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:04 PM
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Women select the men they let into their lives, girls do not. Unfortunately they often model the same behaviors as their mothers in their criteria for mate selection and maintaining boundaries. Ergo, "Choosing Better" still applies MOST of the time to A woman facilitating the abuse scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:58 PM
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Women say something = feminists. Yall gotta stop that shit man All women that have been publicly educated or have interacted with mainstream culture have been exposed to the biases of institutional feminism. When they evince the behaviors articulated by institutional feminism, I am perfectly fine with regarding them as such. Most tradconservative women are just 90's Feminists doing the speed limit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:55 PM
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Are you part of the demographic here that doesn't understand the difference between fantasy and reality? Looking forward to reading the next romantasy book where some tone-deaf self insert falls in love with the toxic strawman that existed in her head. (I hope I don't have to spell out my obvious rebuttal). Like I have said ad nauseum, attraction is a basal instinct that pre-empts the reasons used to justify it, especially in women. The line between what gets the imagination off and the reality …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:40 PM
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I replied to you. Women are the gatekeepers of who has access to the most vulnerable be they children, sick people, or old people. Its not a coincidence that women dominate these fields which are letting in these abusive men I previously alluded to. Your failure to substantively engage with the observations I made in the previous comment is noted. Just another example of a woman myopically curating the facts of a situation to fit the emotional convenience of their world view.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:31 PM
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This conveniently makes anything you disagree with untrue. Are you going to explain how? 💀 There is nothing convenient about trying to fight systemic abuse predicated upon institutional bias. I am well aware of the credibility issue which comes when you cannot depend on good faith oversight, which is why I take the time to try to read the materials when I am able to. But the, myopic convenience of the dogmatic "Appeal to Authority" crowd needs to be called out every time we see it. Institutions …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:23 PM
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Most women have experienced some form of violence from a male in their lives. "Some form" is deliberately nebulous and is doing a lot of heavy lifting. Men know that if they hit a woman that just stabbed them, they are opening themselves up to being murdered or incarcerated by the state.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:18 PM
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Contentless rhetoric. How many of these serial abusers are brought to these communities because a majority of women voters are voting for open borders? How many of these serial abusers are tacitly permitted to continue menacing their communities by a female dominated court system? It certainly seems like women are actively bringing these "bad actor" men into their communities by deliberately attacking anyone who wants to preserve boundaries. They then use the overt behaviors evinced by these sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:14 PM
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a lot of sexual assault, abuse, molestation and harassment occurs while underage and/or completely outside of the context of dating. "Choosing better" isn't applicable to the circumstances that many women have had to go through, and as a result your allegation that dangerous behavior like having hookups, living in cities or attending college means women shouldn't be taken seriously when relaying nonconsensual experiences and fears is also pretty silly. How many minors are sexually assaulted by m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:54 PM
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We have rational minds and instinctual drives that actually prompt the behaviors we enact. Most reasoning amounts to ad hoc justifications. How much of female erotic consumption is of the CNC violent variety? From what I have seen it is statistically significant, if not the majority of female fantasies. Why do women naturally gravitate towards more aggressive male archetypes? I have seen so many women struggle with making their unsafe fantasies "safe" for talking about with their friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:47 PM
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Then we don’t have to believe or care about anything men say either You do if you want a functional society that pays for all the social entitlement programs women are addicted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:41 PM
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Many in the MRM including myself, admit this. I have seen prominent MRM guys such as Goldberg point this out. They point out MGTOWs/Redpillers/ MRAs secretly still crave Women nand Long-Term Relationships and want to be Betabuxxers. I have no issue with this claim. Overly reductive, wanting to be stable financially and have a healthy sustainable relationship with a woman is not hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:39 PM
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Hope you have learned your lesson to not post things you can’t defend. I fail to see what he got "wrong" in your "assessment ?" I just see the typical 'name & shame' ad hom tactic used by bad faith debaters on your "side."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:37 PM
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Maybe the problem isn't women. Who said it was? The issue is the institutional enforcement of gynocentrism and objectively false Feminism talking points. Politicians control the funding that goes to regulatory agencies. These Agencies then shape policy around that awarding contracts to Politician supported NGOs. These Politician supported NGOs then fund "research" that supports the ideological narratives that Politicians can draw from to get them elected. Everyone knows that only certain categor…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:27 PM
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Women understand the risks and we talk about these risks because we want MEN to change. The biggest mistake of feminism/gynocentrism today is Utopian Blank Slatism...the presumption that biologically hardwired human characteristics can be altered through social conditioning. This is a fatal error that I have seen replicated in all putative "Feminists."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:21 PM
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Can it be because men discovered unpleasant truth? Yes it can. But it also can be because it's complete bullshit. This is actually a hugely important thing to me. I believe that an honest man must be willing to be eclectic in how they gather information, we must be willing to hold our nose and engage with people we despise, because there are nuggets of truth buried under the mire of vitriol and contempt. We passively take in what is said and then try to discern what statements are factually supp…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:06 PM
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What we perceive about ourselves, what we think we value, versus what we actually respond to are completely different. But then men also claim to know patterns of women's behavior/attraction. And partly those patterns come from observation, partly from logical errors in those observations, partly from some beliefs that they caught somewhere, some emotions etc. What logical errors are your referring to? With women it would appear that most attraction is instinctual, and the justifications for "in…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 05:44 PM
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I mean "casual erotica" to be getting sexual with little other attachment. An rhetorically illicit dichotomy. Also your usage of "casual" just became even more nebulous. I know plenty of male audience erotica that involves emotional attachment, and take that female audience minotaur milking book...you can't tell me that the emotional connection BS is serious. And women tend to want LTR with someone they're seriously interested in than men will. E.g. We'll tend to wait longer for compatibility to…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 12:12 AM
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"Plenty of fish in the sea" which implies there's always more people to meet. Not that dating is like fishing. If dating is not like fishing, then why is 'plenty of fish in the sea" being invoked almost exclusively with regards to dating? 😂 You clearly aren't reading carefully since you consistently are demonstrating a fundamental inability to grasp what I am saying. Hey man, if you want to see women as fish and yourself as bait. Go off. Have fun. I was clearly invoking a comparison regarding ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 11:07 PM
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Ah yes, the PPD classic, "you don't understand me, so you must be dumb". 🙄 Your concepts don't make any sense. Rhetorically convenient myopia is hilarious. (I am being nice and assuming this is just a shitty tactic) Here is another analogy you won't get, arguing with women like you about female dating patterns is like arguing with a Boomer about why the housing market strategies they have employed is fucked on the macro level. People often are conveniently unable to "get it" when the illogical s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:59 PM
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Oh look you went back and edited to have the correct use of projection. Good job! Though, I'm married. What? 💀 like I said, when you are just rapid-fire responding, you are clearly not reading what I am saying. So are you suggesting that I'm bitter because I don't agree with you and find the whole "looksmax" discourse to be ridiculously pathetic? Its incredibly niche and valid for a specific subset of women. I was not even endorsing looksmaxing in general, but in a visually focused (social media…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:54 PM
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So....you're not using "projection" correctly. Do you want to try another tactic? You just said that I was referring to certain women "who can see through my bullshit" and that I don't see women as people? So which of these contradictory strawmanned views am I supposed to believe? 😂 Fishing and dating aren't alike. 🙄 How are they not alike? Men/fishermen are likely the pursuers in both scenarios and are trying to meet a specific type of woman or fish? Also how does your inability to grasp what a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:40 PM
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You mean women with experience who don't fall for bullshit "An analogy is a comparison between two different things to show how they are alike, usually to help explain a hard idea or a new concept." Catching fish and dating aren't the same thing in the slightest. You know they say that for a certain percentage of the population, they are specifically incapable of understanding abstraction. Keep doubling down though and showcasing your inability to engage in good faith with my argument. Viewing i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:24 PM
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Why is this a surprise? Like....no shit. How articulate. I am merely positing why said men might not be receptive to half-assed anecdotes from certain women. ...you did just say it was 'interesting' in the previous comment. Women aren't fish. So that doesn't make any sense and really highlights my point. I was merely analogizing how the methodology used to catch fish looks different from the perspective of the pursued vs pursuers. Textbook epistemology. The Catfish (individual woman) perspective…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:55 PM
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They refuse to accept what women say and act like they are more informed. Women in aggregate act very different from how women as individuals claim to behave. If I go fishing, I know that catching a Large Catfish is fundamentally different from fishing for trout. I know that, on average, you are more likely to catch larger quantities and more species of fish if you act like you are fishing for trout. If I am starving, why would I expend the energy or listen to someone who expects me to tailor my…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:25 PM
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As for LTRs being pushed by women, if that was your perception, how many rungs higher were these guys? How many girls were in his orbit?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:39 PM
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Casual erotica is huge with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:37 PM
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I know about the Romantasy sis
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:25 PM
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Sex is not a trivial, frivilous thing, even though we treat it as it is. You are literally biohacking your brain to imprint on the person you are copulating with. With men it's especially dangerous because you are Pavlovian Conditioning yourself into needing someone else's physical validation, and tying it to your ego or sense of self. One of my biggest regrets is getting sucked into a sexual relationship too early in life. My rationalization was that I was going to marry the person I was with, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:20 PM
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Sugar Dating is just Over-Priced Prostitution
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:03 PM
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WTF is Sugar Dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:02 PM
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This seems appropriate
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:49 PM
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Does she know you bro? 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:48 PM
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What part annoyed you specifically? My ex loved Turn, but I couldn't stand it. Don't get me started on trueblood.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:45 PM
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Yeah like those guys who play fantasy football instead of real sports like quidditch and LARPing. https://youtu.be/j_ekugPKqFw?is=OMtwt3fiyMgfQcTy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:42 PM
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I have/had a surgeon buddy who used to send me worse stuff from medical journals. He's desensitized to it but I get grossed out. Pretty funny guy, solid, good spotter. But I had to block him after a while. He has crazy stories. There was a...mentally disabled guy who was "blocked up" vascularly (down there) because he was more into gaming than... well gooning. (Literally lacked the drive). The prescription was literally, "manually clearing" the blockage. How tf do you broach that? I didn't catch…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:31 PM
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Yeah I can see the sadomassochistic angle, still gross though. I had some rando transwoman from this sub DM me once, said she had "big clit energy." Solid joke, still gross to send a Pic though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:18 PM
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I don't think they are (at least not proportionally). It's funny because I literally had a conversation with a mod about this issue the other day and they played dumb about it. I would volunteer, but I will not doxx myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:14 PM
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Per Capita? Also you should make an exception for migrant communities with different mores.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:11 PM
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Its not the cake, its the reaction to it. These women are statistically more likely to be in healthcare, administration, and education. That's a recipe for systemic discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:08 PM
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Pretty sure both manifest in violence anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:07 PM
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...I really think they are trying to backdoor mass surveillance and are using LLMs as an excuse. We already have Flock Cameras and now they are trying to incorporate this with Schoolbusses too (continual surveillance). Look at what they are doing to jobseekers with that Eightfold AI that datascrapes your PC to make ghost profiles on all the candidates.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:05 PM
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You know there is this moment, when a woman decides to leave relationship, and a man finally realizes that she is serious (too little to late) and he tries to save relationship. And... I have already seen this Romcom...it sucked the first 19 times. Also, I doubt the men here are "desperate" they are trying to air legitimate grievances.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:59 PM
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Sending her dick pics knowing perfectly well that they are not going to be well received, that's objectification. Realistically, this behavior has to work with somebody right? Otherwise why do they keep doing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:57 PM
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Vibe all you want, You need to have resources for them to stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:55 PM
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Send her the prancersize workout video. You know the lady teaching you to dance like a horse?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:53 PM
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Let's do a simple thought experiment. You have Group A and Group B. Group A attacks Group B, kills all the males and most of the children, incorporates Group B's women. Add in attrition from environmental disasters and similar events across multiple generations. How likely is it that Group B's Y chromosome survives? Does female sexual selection come into play? Sure, but is it sufficient to account for a bottleneck? (NO). The Genghis Khan model has A LOT more data. There is corroborating material…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:55 PM
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Physical validation, actual interest. Most prostitutes used to say that they were often emotional outlets as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:27 PM
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Found it: https://youtube.com/shorts/7kMm9vdrxYQ?is=ChIYGFeKL-ZdKbLm
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:20 PM
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I follow this issue closely: https://youtube.com/shorts/vETRZKrr7P8?is=3MKMWWYPXbwYAzYt There was one where he covers multiple bottlenecks. Trying to find it. (I hate how YouTube search works).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:17 PM
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I don't think polygyny is a sufficient answer for the genetic disparity in representation. I also don't think the material evidence supports it. I am familiar with papers talking about it before. Calling me ignorant doesn't make your argument stronger. You provide citations and I'll provide my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:11 PM
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You do know there are multiple bottlenecks right? Natural disasters contributed to attrition rate, as well as intraspecific killings. Also the unsavory kidnapping practices are well attested to based on nomadic and hunter gatherer cultures. Look at how the Comanche operated, adult men were usually killed off, women were incorporated. This is just one example, there are many many more.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:06 PM
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Which ones? I dispute that argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:01 PM
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Men in those classes were often still pursuing romantic relationships in other contexts. Marriage (right or wrong) was often a matter of business or family.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:01 PM
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Maybe men are mad things have flipped. Maybe men are mad because disengenuous women denigrate and strawman them?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:58 PM
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I am familiar with the Y Chromosome bottleneck, men inherently have a higher attrition rate within a hunter gatherer context. We know this from extant populations. I hold the social customs/polygyny argument as less credible than environmental catastrophes and intraspecific warfare. There is also the genocidal hypothesis regarding cultural responses to Paleolithic plagues. Edit: downvoting me is not an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:00 PM
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Its mainly guys here complaining about their loneliness and how its unfair. “Male Loneliness Epidemic” wouldnt be a thing if those would STFU and not cause problems in society. 90% of the posts here are denigrating men. 😅 Also if your birthrate is plummeting, then you don't have a society, you have a death cult.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:06 PM
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It is. You just dont like the women you deem ugly and insufferable are popular. I don't like validating bad behavior AND I recognize that not all validation is the same. "Nice ass" isn't the same as "I want to fuck." 😂 Women just see attention, they often aren't able to tell the difference. (This is more an issue with social media tbh) Men are often portrayed as dogs, but we are more discerning than you think. Its why there is so much failed monkey-branching these days. Let me make my words bigg…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:39 PM
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"Experts"🙄 Lady, I got this from evolutionary psychology/paleo anthropology. This is JUST math, women are inherently more valuable from a biological reproductive standpoint, ergo losing a woman has an innately higher "cost" to a community than losing a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:29 PM
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But you just said men fuck ugly women. If women were into casual sex like men, there would be no reason to fuck ugly women because the man's looks match would be available to him. I have "had access" to attractive women and declined because I was disgusted by their behavior. Some of the worst people I have known have been "conventionally" attractive. There is a point where a person is so objectively awful that it overrides their corporeal assets. Like where listening to her talk, actually turned…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:26 PM
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Because women aren't interested in casual sex like men are, so men have to lower their looks standards to get it. Not my experience. But there is a tacit assumption that sexual interest is tantamount to relationship interest. This is incorrect. If she got ALOT of simps she's popular. Doesnt matter that you hate those simps, SHE'S POPULAR. Algorithmically curated simping is not organic. Liking how a woman's ass looks in a photo is not the same as liking the woman IRL. Also some Simping is simply …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:18 PM
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Why wouldn't she? SHE'S POPULAR. I am talking 4s and below, in aggregate, acting like they are 5s and above. The real issue is Simping...not even sure I fully disagree with you. The other issue is that male promiscuity at higher levels does not discriminate, (more of a numbers mindset).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:08 PM
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Look as a guy who once dated for looks (kind of), give me a mid with a good personality anyday. There was a girl I knew who I wasn't initially attracted to, but the way she talked bumped her up to like an 8 in my mind. Also she was genuinely a good person. I really miss her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:58 PM
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That's just how evolutionary reproduction works. A tribe can survive losing half its men, it cannot survive losing half its women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:55 PM
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The dating market is not the relationship market. The ego leads to a hyper inflated social currency that doesn't convert to external metrics. Women get a lot of attention, that doesn't translate to actual investment. I once personally knew a girl whose ass had 5 million followers on Instagram. I went clubbing with this bruja, and let me tell you, she was the most insufferable human being I ever met. I spent the entire night trying to ditch her, but she kept getting in my car. (Shitty Uber ridesh…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:53 PM
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i’m in a commitment relationship with my man. we aren’t married and have been together for almost 8 months now. we live together, pay bills, have a promise ring. just not married. committed doesn’t have to mean marriage. I am happy for you. I am talking "commitment" for LTRs, (coming from a quasitraditional framework). RedPill doesn't (necessarily) question your ability to commit to a relationship, but there is some distinguishment regarding what commitment actually is when it comes to a woman. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:11 PM
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Also, why does it matter so much? Do you actually care or are you running interference for your "side?" It's a ltr credibility issue, we know how pair-bonding works with oxytocin generated from carnal exercise, we also know that bodycount is negatively correlated with longevity (on aggregate) with women. The short answer is that we wonder if she would be a "flight risk" if things went to sh*t. Speaking personally, I have had a lot of bad things happen to me, what is the evidence that she would a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:59 PM
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That's pretty civil. Bad faith moderation is not. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:19 AM
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Doesn't mean strictly anything apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 09:37 PM
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"If Grug cry he no get snu snu, Lala leave, he get sad sad....if Grug strong she stay, get more snu snu" It's not that deep lady, its basic pattern recognition, it doesn't require Xenu hooking up all men to a frigging hive mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:50 PM
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Plenty of men exhibit avoidant behaviors because it’s normalized due to patriarchy 🤡 I bet you did 😂 So do we download patriarchy updates from a central server? Or do they come out of a Feminist's ass? Please expound on the "lore" for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:47 PM
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pay for her own trips Does your ideal woman also pay for a chair at the end of her bed? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:23 PM
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If you subscribe to a pill, anyone is qualified to speak to what you believe as it is defined. If I was, I would be flaired that way. I think for myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:22 PM
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These red and black pilled dudes can only see the world and people via projection. Sorry, all those strawmen made you feel that way, try not to get hay fever. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:21 PM
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In the world where you are not having sex as kids? 🤨 You know people who come out the box as nonvirgins? I only had sex with my ex because I thought we were getting married, and I am a dude...so...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:14 PM
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How about waiting until you've met his people and hes met your people? Does she come from a broken home? Is her father there? Is the mother a harridan? No matter how good a woman may seem, if her sister and "folks" are known to be snakes, take everything she says with salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:11 PM
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Men would still marry Margot Robbie if she gave it up on the first date Debatable. The treads on those tires looks a little worn, not safe for long-distance trips. The ephemeral promise of pussy is less important than staying whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:09 PM
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The reality is if you do have sex the first night, unless that night turns into a few days you will never hear from them again. If she's done it with you and she's not a virgin, then she's pulled the same song and dance with someone else. If her Hedonistic ROIs fall below baseline, dump her and forget her. Discretion is optional of course, you can try to take a promiscuous girl seriously, but no one will respect you if she turns out to be a "Lily Singh" type.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:08 PM
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Cool, but be up front about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:04 PM
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Or don't date a promiscuous woman because the currency of your attention will inherently be worth less to her.... 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:02 PM
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Its a clear dichotomy. Are you a virgin? Get traditional benefits. Not a virgin? Meet the Hedonistic ROIs of your "partner" as long as you are able.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:00 PM
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A lot of these men were avoidant before the women. Have you actually talked to them? I doubt it. I am so done with bad faith women unilaterally appointing themselves to speak on our behalf. Your cohort consistently fails to model and predict male behavior, let alone your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:21 PM
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A necessary element which negates the relationship once absent. "Important," cute. Men need physical validation in the same way Women need emotional validation. One begets the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:11 PM
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Clearly she hasn't been invited to the Diddy parties.🤢
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:04 PM
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"After their twenties" Do you understand how time works? Or do you need a peer-review with a bottle of lotion and a clock? Men seem to have two atavistic drives when it comes to reproduction, short term and long term. There has been evolutionary psychology articles written about it. I would send a link, but I am not convinced it would be worth my time. Since you previously claimed that you never met a single promsicuous woman. 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:02 PM
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Learn Reading Comprehension: The only men I have known to engage with this "recreational" fucking after their twenties were doing so because they were conditioned into being an avoidant by the women they were dating. Ergo, who is actually preferring this?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:58 PM
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Learn reading comprehension. The only men I have known to engage with this "recreational" fucking after their twenties were doing so because they were conditioned into being an avoidant by the women they were dating. Ergo, who is actually preferring this?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:57 PM
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Cute, irrelevant. I already explained theb avoidant behavior post 20s ghat leads to recreational fucking. Again all have an incitng incident with a bad faith woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:56 PM
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Women "in aggregate" are hypocritical about promsicuity, and engage in solipsistic reasoning when confronted with group behaviors. Also, I am not inclined to believe any claims you make if your first move is to argue in bad faith. Unicorns never hold up under scrutiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:51 PM
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It is pretty well established in Evolutionary Psychology that men are operating according to two reproductive strategies, short-term and long-term. Women, in aggregate, is the operative phrase. We are talking about trending behaviors across the group not your handpicked unicorns (which never seem to hold up under scrutiny).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:46 PM
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Thanks for the unsolicited and irrelevant take. I stand by what I said. "Happily going about their lives" right, because their operating principles are wholly predicated upon Hedonic Utility and Emotional Convenience. Also they have done studies on female friend groups. (Child psychology I believe). The hypothesis was that good influences would cancel out bad ones. However they all began to exhibit the undesired aberrant behaviors. This closely models what a lot of men have attested to in real l…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:33 PM
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☝️oh look, "evidence"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:43 PM
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Myopia is not an argument
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:42 PM
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Lots of people are in long-term relationships without being married. Well "marriages" don't mean what they once did, and "commitment" only means as much as a woman's convenience nowadays. Doesn't mean much of anything at all. That's why I made the joke about commitment meaning insanity. Lugnut here just couldn't follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:35 PM
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It okay, English isn't your first language. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 09:10 AM
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Cool, I'm not her. Some men buy me birthday presents so you should buy me one too. https://youtu.be/8gnQx40JiBU?is=tMcM1bnaWNTC9SJ2
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:38 AM
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Never known anyone to be deplatformed just for being a man. Yep. Not a surprise based on how you're arguing. Myopic convenience.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:30 AM
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Yes, most men and women do have sex, disease or no. Wrong. Evolutionarily speaking most men do not pass on their genes. "Scientist" 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:29 AM
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you'd better have found a really good superior way of producing unbiased, accurate research. Or I could do what women have done and have an entire panel of men speak on your behalf. I mean why not?, they apparently have felt emboldened to speak on what is "wrong" with my demographic for years whilst simultaneously barring the target demographic from speaking for itself. Anita sarkeesian horseshit all over again.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:27 AM
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You're going to be so embarrassed when you look it up. Or its just more gynocentrist propaganda. Either way, if there is a dirty dick, the women will find them, like moths and lightbulbs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:23 AM
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You feel that way, and because you feel that way and I'm a woman disagreeing, you will find an unfalsifiable way to dismiss me by saying women are stupid. I've seen it a million times. Of the subset of women who engage with me, 80% will choose to argue in a badfaith way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:21 AM
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Yet I am bringing criticised for not wasting my time looking for links you're not going to click. Welcome to Reddit. I am arguing that the degree of social engagement is at least a way of corroborating that there is at least a kernel of truth in what my "side" is alleging. It's better than the peer reviewed circle jerks I was pestered about today.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:19 AM
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Nobody else involved here has referenced a study either. You're holding me to a higher evidentiary standard. Most of our opinions are not formed based on studies. Idk what someone else said or why that should affect what I do. I literally had a chick tell me that everything I experienced is invalid because I didn't have a peer reviewed circle jerk to confirm everything I say. I think we should hold women to a higher standard since their go to move is ad humming and bad faith argumentation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:13 AM
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I didn't downvote you, you commented at midnight GMT when I wasn't even awake. Typical woman, eschewing accountability 😘 Jk. But in all seriousness, I don't believe you, women are walking petri dishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:10 AM
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Mad as a hatter and cunning as a fox. Here's what you do...You should peer review my body of work and then lobby to censor it. Gotta make sure that pesky target demographic isn't allowed to speak for itself, so we'll misappropriate Congressional funds to start a mass surveillance program of people like me and then call me an "incel" when I try to say anything about it. 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:07 AM
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"Committed" relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:33 AM
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Horrible and humiliating for the men. What “your the second place loser I’ve fucked every guy on the block but it’s ok you can take care of me now Don't worry a bunch of horrid bitches in congress will write a bill making you have to pay for them anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:26 AM
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No I am gonna have to peer review your request for links and then author a paper that blames everything on some evil external parasocial force that conspired to keep women housed and debt free...that no good, dirty rotten patriarchy with its functional economy and positive birthrate. We should all vote on sending all the men to war, so we can backdoor changes to how the currency functions while the men are away.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:19 AM
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So committed relationship means what? He's not in an asylum is he? That's a bit much even for me. What is with women guards and prisoners? Smh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:56 AM
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The moderation here is pretty bad in general. Literal Streisand effect BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:53 AM
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You guys just refuse any evidence that is contrary to your beliefs. That is a BIG claim, can I get a peer-reviewed study and a big bottle of lotion so we can all peer-review it together? 🤡 My favorite thing in college was going to a thesis defense in the Gender Studies department.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:52 AM
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You guys just make claims you can’t back up and frame them as fact. Based on how you are arguing, A woman could walk up to me, kick me in the nuts, leave a bruise, and you still wouldn't believe it. Guys, this is the same woman who seriously maintains that she does not know a single promiscious woman. Not a single one. She is not an arbiter of credibility, in any regard. She claims to be in the tech industry, so I guess the memes write themselves. 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:50 AM
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I’ve seen a red pill guy here claim a study HE brought was biased because I read it and it concluded the opposite of what he thought. Based on your performance thus far, I am inclined to believe you misread it or deliberately misframed the results. Myopic convenience isn't as slick as you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:46 AM
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about the expectations that come with it. If you are not having sex, then why are you married? Should be grounds for annulment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:44 AM
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Shitty memes are not an argument. Please consult your doctor about the benefits of a vasectomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:39 AM
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Stop with the victim complex Right back at you No one cares about what anything means to you, that’s the thing. I don’t respect people with this mind frame in the first place. If you aren't willing to take any testimonial evidence seriously, even as a baseline, why would I take you seriously? Look up what happened to the kids that tried to report on the Franklin Scandal to the FBI. As late as the 2020s, I saw people blowing it off . I take self reporting seriously, I acknowledge the need for cor…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:08 AM
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No. (But thanks for actually reading it). To be clear, I previously studied what happened to the lobbyists who were working for Big Tobacco...a ton of them (do NOT get me started on Juul and Zyns)...this was NOT an argument. The post 2015-2017 argument was over articles published supporting the claim that Voluntary Circumcision was helping prevent the spread of AIDS. The "science" behind it seemed ludicrous to me. I remember people who worked on the ground telling me that some of these guys were…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:46 AM
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Mia Khalifa is one person, idk if you know that. Yeah I know & she was an obnoxious piece of work in middleschool. Do you need peer reviewed journals backing that up? Is my assertion still insufficient? Her promiscuity is just public facing, Ms. "And by the way, I don’t sleep around and don’t know any women who sleep around." 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:31 AM
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Why is your immediate presumption that I am overstating it?😂 I honestly cannot stand people who are SO resistant to the plausibility of institutional bias. We are literally coating national forests in Glycophosphates as we speak. What is burden of proof here? You expect me to just jump through hoops for what? If I brought you 500 anecdotes with corroborating documentary evidence, would that count as "evidence" to you? Where's the line? TBH, most of the jank I have seen is with political polling …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:28 AM
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Because I actually care about evidence, this was a cursory AI pull, this has not been vetted by me, but I have no reason to doubt it yet. Surgeon General did not say smoking was good for you, but I definitely remember there was a controversy about a prominent doctor that was bought off. I'll have to track down the article at some point. When studying institutional bias, lobbying, and corporate capture, the relationship between the tobacco industry and major medical organizations provides a clear…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:12 AM
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No one cares about what anything means to you, that’s the thing. I don’t respect people with this mind frame in the first place. Did I ask for your respect? Or is this one of your daily affirmations in the mirror? Funding =\= bias in all cases by the way Oh so you can acknowledge that funding DOES effect bias some of the time? Just never against men right? 🤡 Link the threads for the aids and smoking arguments, I’d like to see if that’s what they actually said and if the sources were actual duds.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:06 AM
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Did you peer review that first? Testimonial evidence is used all the time in court. Tell you what. Since you don't believe me, I am more than happy to DM all the corroborating evidence supporting my anecdote about who I went to school with. Its definitely "peer-reveiwed" 🧴🤢. Will that be sufficient to establishing Mia Khalifa's promiscuity, or does some NGO need to pay me first?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:44 AM
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And by the way, I don’t sleep around and don’t know any women who sleep around. I am sorry WHO is bad faith? I went to school with Mia Khalifa...I must have just hallucinated that right? Gtfo 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:34 AM
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Wait so its (allegedly) easier for women to catch STIs, but your presumption is that its most likely JUST the men spreading them? 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:29 AM
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STI rates also occur in children, do you want to hear more about this? I hope not. I worked for USAID providing AIDS relief to Africa....so yeah, show your work. The study specified adults starting at 18...so... They could also be monogamous wives who are infected by cheating husbands. Even the study concluded they were all f□cking the same men, that's more evidence of flawed mate selection criteria... TBH I genuinely think you are incapable of recognizing the bias created by institutional gynoc…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:28 AM
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You don’t need a Harvard degree to do research bud. Or you at the very least need to reframe your argument. I have literally had people try to cite studies alleging that circumcision prevents transmission of the AIDS virus. Completely oblivious to the people funding the study. (Horrifically bad sampling by the way). If we followed your appeal to authority logic and ignored all available anecdotal evidence, smoking would be seen as good for your health. Your appeals to authority mean nothing to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:14 AM
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Do you actually not know why having a large pool of data vs “trust your eyes” is better? Lady, I have worked with lobbyists and think tanks, I have seen how the hamburger is made , someone is always paying for these studies (not b/c they love science or for humanitarian reasons). I have had arguments with morons who believe that circumcision prevents AIDS transmission over an Appeal to Authority Bias. Nevermind that the money came from an ideological NGO... I have seen regulatory capture in real…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:02 AM
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because she is over 30 and therefore must be a whore. The only reason I would see myself tossing this hypothetical nice girl (out of hand) is if she showcased a lack of accountability regarding her past or if I was in a position to build a family. (In vitro failure rate/geriatric pregnancy complications speak for themselves). This is not said to be cruel, but to be honest about what most men want out of relationships (your outlier anecdotes not withstanding). The unspoken truth is that a lot of …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:10 AM
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HR ladies are Jezebelles? If not that, overt misandrists. Seriously, society would be better if we got rid of all HR departments. (I say that as someone that worked with HR ladies).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:07 AM
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Under rated comment
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:05 AM
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These red and black pilled dudes can only see the world and people via projection. Does this count as projection inception? As the saying goes "speak for yourself." Frankly, you aren't qualified to speak for me or people like me. Case in point: They didn’t get hookups in their 20s so they resent women because they believe that all women would be doing what they wish they could have done. I got hookups in my twenties, I am still disgusted by hedonistic women who make hypocritical misandrist state…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:56 PM
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How do you know that? Aggregated (almost universally experienced) trend analysis. If an entire cohort of people claims to have experienced something it is incredibly suspicious to just write it off as "nah they are all stupid/wrong." Its funny how often a bunch of people attesting to something (Franklin Scandal ; Little St. James) are just written off by people in favor of a conveniently myopic status quo. I have often wondered if why the Franklin Scandal was so under-reported was because the ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:47 PM
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i am not arguing, i am simply telling you your post doesn't resonate with me. So, by your "logic", if I dislike soccer I should just wander up to a sports bar and announce that IDGAF to people watching the world cup? Also do you usually feel motivated to comment on things that "don't mean anything" to you? Seems like it resonated on some level, otherwise why waste the time to comment upon it? 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:27 PM
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"After their twenties." LMFAO do you live under a rock?!?! Almost every normal young man does this bahahaha If I do, maybe you should find one yourself, might learn basic reading comprehension. The emotional tenor of your reaction is suspicious to me..."Methinks the lady doth protest too much?"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:18 PM
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Sure. You did For all we know you are commenting from basement on an island, this is not an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:13 PM
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i don't care because this post doesn't describe me or the people i know. maybe get a different social circle Solipsism is not an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:12 PM
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One of the more common arguments against discussing these gender trends with women (in general) is that they tend to filter all evidence against a solipsistic framework. (I never experienced this, and its not emotionally convenient, ergo all men are lying).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:08 PM
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Why assume it's the same people other than to say "women bad"? Why assume that we are assuming? Our view is built upon aggregated and corroborated empirical evidence (viewcounts) that point to women engaging in this double standard. I can speak for myself, family members, friends, men and women who can all attest to this behavior. You are free to be skeptical, but at some point your failure to provide a concrete burden of proof for our claims just looks like bad faith framing of our ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:06 PM
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How do you know that none of the formerly promiscuous women criticize men for seeking casual sex? Virtually every former porn star that I know of has engaged in this character laundering & correlated misandrist denigration at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:02 PM
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What do you think dating is? Adversarial job interviews/unregulated personal marketing. Given the extraordinary standards men are held to, it behooves the man to vett everything said against available evidence and evinced behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:00 PM
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Idk if a study has been made on it and I'm not basing my opinion on that. Then why should your view be treated with any credibility? I just saw a Feminist whining about anecdotes not being evidence, I don't fully agree, but why shouldn't we hold you to the same evidentiary standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:58 PM
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more counterintuitive point? More counterintuitive in relation to what? Look up the gender disparity in the rate of STIs between men and women, that alone disproved your unsubstantiated assertion. (Oh, I guess someone thinks downvoting is an argument? 😘)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:56 PM
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Female principles appear to be largely defined by their social cliques, even if a woman does not evince the promiscuous behavior of others in their cohort, their continued association can be extrapolated to be a form of tacit endorsement. The same "functional" inductive reasoning can applied to associations with women who engage in misandrist rhetoric at their personal convenience. If someone is okay with bad behavior in theory, there probably isn't a lot holding them back from engaging with bad…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:54 PM
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I prefer to refer to "Women, in aggregate" to avoid this kind of venal pedantry. If the majority conforms with a rule to the extent that it remains a majority intergenerationally, I think it is safe to opine that such a rule should be applied to your subset of "available" women, in aggregate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:47 PM
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The only men I have known to engage with this "recreational" fucking after their twenties were doing so because they were conditioned into being an avoidant by the women they were dating. Ergo, who is actually preferring this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:45 PM
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Lmaooo “I made a post for a circlejerk of 12 other men who are just like me, I’m definitely right” I have sincere doubts about the quality of the sex lives for anyone that regularly comments here regardless of affiliation. Even tangential interest in this subject matter "begs the question" as they say. (Downvoting is not an argument 😘).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:42 PM
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AI that shit bruv, (Data Validate of course).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:40 PM
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All empirical evidence is predicated upon "scientifically" aggregated anecdotes. So do you have anything to contribute besides "Don't Trust Your Lying Eyes?"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:39 PM
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My point is that when I was in school, it was part of the curriculum. That IS a form of tacit acceptance. Feminism is like Hepatitus, just because not every strain will kill you, doesn't mean that it is actually good for you. I see it as another form of Blank Slate Utopianism, it seeks to reprogram the parts of human nature which are hard wired by evolution and genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:16 PM
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In all seriousness. Speaking as a putative "conservative" guy, you might like Alistair <https://youtube.com/@alistairianism?si=TQd8YGsBQhNZ_PkM > He started as a right wing libertarian, but he is more economically 'progressive," and resonates with me as a man (where I am at). He is not an intersectionalist so he actually cares about people writ-large.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:08 PM
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I am not unsympathetic to your view. There should be a distinction drawn between what is representative per capita vs what is ideologically "authentic." (Although I wouldn't necessarily conflate media's astroturfed prominence with actual per capita representation either). Hassan is conflated with Progressivism because of the size of his viewership, just as Andrew Tate is conflated with RP because of the size of his viewership. Its just one of those things, and its why botting & catfishing was su…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:33 PM
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Ok, amd in general, women all have a different desire for men. The only statistically relevant selection criteria are the ones that lead to breeding and family formation. Anything else is pricing yourself out of the market. Ex: You can want a conventionally attractive 90's style goth chick all you want, that doesn't mean that they are a statistically relevant portion of the population (or that they are stable enough to form a family unit with - just ask Tectone). Also you should look up the evol…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:10 PM
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We are enslaved by our "conveniences."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:54 PM
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I think this is more difficult for men than for women in many ways because of patriarchal norms. Really? You don't think mainstreaming "affirmative" gender discrimination had any effect on male outcomes? 😂 I get so tired of the Utopian Blank Slate Psychobabble. Evolutionary Psychology addresses a lot of this. Mating Behaviors are not rational, they are hard-wired instincts we assign post hoc rationalizations to. Ask any girl that's happy in a relationship, once you spend 30 minutes sifting throu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:48 PM
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Guess what? Black women exist, too….crazy, right? Really? You think we forgot? Idpol is only shoved in our face every 15 minutes Example: "Why do you care about Black Helen of Troy or Eliot Page Achilles?" Because its a form of deliberate cultural subversion? Hating White People and/or Men is not a Civic Virtue.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:43 PM
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They are more representative than you want to admit. Subreddit rules notwithstanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:39 PM
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They aren't breeding with bishojo twink models IRL, so its not statistically relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:33 PM
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I hate having progressive values because I get associated with dumb regressives who think openly displaying a lack of empathy is helpful to anyone. Can you really call it an outlier if that's what's being elevated in the mainstream discourse? Hassanabi's "Why should incels want fatherhood if they'll never experience it?" comes to mind. Grant you, I am not unsympathetic to the No True Scotsman astroturfing of ideology, I just don't see "reasonable" progressivism IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:29 PM
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I’d argue that progressive spaces hurt men more in application than in ideology Respectfully, I don't think you have done the reading. Dworkin's "Erect Phalluses are Violence against Women," is a particularly hilarious example. For all the lambasting of their strawmanned "Patriarchy" I would argue that Gynocentrism has done more damage to society writ large than "muh Patriarchy" ever did.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:27 PM
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"Society" is never going to respect soft men, its just going to try to destroy and replace them. Its basic Evolutionary Psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:11 PM
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What would ‘valuing men as men’ look like? Honest question. Idpol is a literal psyop targeted at subverting the middle class from uniting over monopolistic practices, price fixing, and parasitic rent seeking behaviors. (Transactionmaxxing is not the same as increasing productivity.) I am conservativish, but the leftwing guy Alistair on YT really captures the heart and soul of the economic side of it. ≈=========== ATM, Virtually every issue that caters to young men is captured by right wing popul…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:10 PM
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I agree. As an individual though, I am just not into "masculine" type of dudes. Let me stop you right there. When men are talking about women, they tend to be speaking in aggregate, as in "this is true of women in aggregate." No matter how unique an individual fish is, no successful fisherman goes out with techniques catered to one specific fish, they go out with techniques targeted at specific groups of fish. "But not me" is anecdotal and not really useful to men trying to find a woman worth bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 04:58 PM
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I am not saying whether or not to date them, I just refuse to define healthy sexual relationships according to their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 01:41 AM
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Nope, definitely defective from an evolutionary perspective, and genuinely useless from a biological one. It's like someone born without legs trying to coach me in long distance running.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 01:13 AM
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No, I understand that defective people exist, I just don't use outliers to define norms or standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 01:03 AM
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So you are from a commonwealth country. That explains a lot. Come on little "sheilah," you'll figure it out eventually. Maybe if you read more, you'll figure out something to say: https://youtu.be/IFACrIx5SZ0?t=28&si=hoZK1KuSq5WS3XMD It's so precious how you lack the basic self awareness to be embarrassed, "you go girl!" 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:53 AM
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You can barely speak English apparently😂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:41 AM
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In fact, people who chase validation are typically annoying and labelled having MAIN CHARACTER SYNDROME. Southpark actually did a some episodes about it. Watch The F Word. 😂 South Park? seriously? We are talking about value in relationships, not personal value. Is that what we're calling men who do more than think with their penis? Really? Maybe you'd know if you weren't too busy citing slop writing as actual evidence? Why don't you try looking it up? It's like trying to explain the tides to a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 11:31 PM
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Women are always so obsessed with eating and garbage media. The ones that actually have stimulating thoughts and hobbies, have psychiatric disorders. It's like when a woman starts talking about a dream she had, and it is the most mundane boring shit I have ever heard in my life. Like so bad you want go buy her an audible subscription, and put headphones over her ears while she is sleeping just to make her dreams have better pacing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 11:23 PM
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Commenting on a statement that has a worse shelf-life than milk at room temperature makes me a "weirdo?" Maybe focus on saying something which retains its value after a week? Would you care about the opinion of a shit-throwing chimpanzee? Would it give you an existential crisis? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 11:07 PM
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Most men would get extremely offended if you assumed that was sex Its both physical and emotional validation, your rhetorically convenient myopia must prevent you from seeing that. Most men DONT like that stereotype you're promoting and know that stereotype gets used to demonize men. More blank slate utopian bs, sometimes arguing with your "side" feels like I am arguing with flat earthers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 11:01 PM
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Then rewrite them without the "woe-is-me" and "Men can't be expected to do much" sexism. I am not "woe is meing" I am saying you and most women generally, literally have empathy blindspots when it comes to men. That's not moralizing, that's responding to observable patterns of behavior. I don't lose sleep over moronic behavior, I do try to help if I can, but I wash my hands of stupidity at the end of the day. I am. What is Tabula Rasa then? What is the Blank Slate Theory? Trying to "logic" men o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 10:16 PM
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You aren't listening. Engage with the points that were made. Men and women are both subject to a degree of biological determinism.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 10:09 PM
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That's EXTREMELY sexist to assume all men act in a way that makes everyone hate them. I don't care about your perception of my conception of reality, I care about the material facts. "Modern" Women like to maximize their own hedonic interests at the expense of men or are too solipsistic to see what the consequences of gender discrimination policies actually are. (that's just modern Feminism essentially). There also is a Malthusian Eugenicist trend among the elites, but that's outside the scope o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 10:03 PM
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Honest about what? That's the part that is poorly formulated. Also what exactly are men not clear about regarding their needs? Is it the tacit need for sex you are talking about? If so, the only reason that men don't communicate that overtly is because it isn't considered "sexy" to women to be so blunt. Most guys who get action aren't trying to embody the "show bobs and vagene" meme. Because attraction is predicated upon kindling a natural "friction" between you two. That's where Tinder's brandi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 09:49 PM
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So, you WANT women to assume most menace purely sex motivated? Lol, "menace" is obviously an autocorrected Freudian slip. You clearly have some kind of hang up with sex. Sexual relationships are inherently predicated upon a basis of mutualistic & reciprocal sex. If a man is committed to a relationship with a woman he wants to invest in this wonderful person who makes him feel valued. For men this is slightly more physical than emotional, but we need both just like women. If we didn't need the wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 09:38 PM
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Your problem lies in the fact that men don't actually want to be married though. Western secular marriage is not marriage, it's just a bad contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 09:24 PM
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Sexual relationships are usually predicated upon some measure of sexual activity. Hence the name.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 09:22 PM
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The problem with that is that men here admit they wont admit they dont want a relationship because they know damn well how their chances drop in dating. This is obviously some sort of strawman, but its so poorly articulated that I genuinely don't understand what you are trying to say...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 09:21 PM
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The guy is dumb because he really thought that’s a good reason to get married. The woman is dumb because she doesn't understand how men are motivated to maintain performance within the relationship. Also this only applies to secular marriage which has no principles outside of emotional convenience and hedonic utility. It's like playing Russian Roulette without any payout at the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 09:19 PM
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damn bro folded by deleting his acc rq You don't have a debate about hygiene with a chimpanzee throwing feces at your face. Sure the chimp thinks its "owned" you by getting you to leave, but at the end of the day...alienating the only people that give a damn is going to bite them in the ass when the loggers come to cut everything down.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 09:17 PM
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When guys here talk about dating being a numbers game. They sound like compulsive gamblers too. You've clearly never been to the finance sector
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 09:11 PM
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Going with the analogy, the guys I’m talking about will keep fucking up their job interview until they realize there’s zero job offerings left for them and then they’ll panic cry and say it’s the job market‘s fault. And then wanna get pity about how hard it is for them to find even a single job. If the job market is explicitly discriminatory against men and actively seeks to displace them through exploiting migrant workers and AI, then most men are going to check out. If the job market then beco…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 09:07 PM
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I never said that was what I wanted.... The act of going on dates is a ritualistic feeding activity for people with nothing else going on.... I am talking about the actual give and take in longterm dating. The messy work that makes a relationship work. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 08:46 PM
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Reciprocity is not Transaction
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:16 PM
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“He must think I’m going to be a bang maid. A cook. A baby incubator. A submissive house elf who defers to his Lordship.” Based on that definition of it, to women it sounds like a threat or prison sentence. Oh so you really like Handmaid's Tale?💀 Also I have never heard of ANYONE who wants to bang a House Elf, that is naaaaasty gurl. Also WITAF is a Bang Maid? The French Maid is a peak aesthetic and you know it. ....wait are you saying women don't like furnishing clean spaces to live in, or is i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 07:40 AM
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Challenging the OP's view means there should be some way to convince him that it should be easy to sympathize with most of women's dating woes. I literally did just that. Thanks for showcasing the lack of reciprocity when it comes to giving and receiving empathy. Personal feelings are not debatable. Except, we are discussing his worldview, not personal feelings. These perspectives are shaped by interpretations of experiences he has had. These CAN be shaped by appeals to reason You (and women lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 05:14 PM
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This “men are the victim” is getting so exhausting because men really aren’t a victim they are just experiencing the bare edges of equality and they don’t like it Adorable,"bare edges" and all. Go lay down if you're "tired" no one is forcing you to be here. If an artificially altered heuristic is skewed to prejudice the majority of women against 80% of men, then that is a literal example of systemic discrimination against men. (This is just in terms of 'attraction.') Regarding Systemic Discrimin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 04:54 PM
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I think it is debatable, you just don't want to engage with it, which begs the question, why comment upon it? It speaks to the broken nature of society that women can so stubbornly hold to their refusal to empathize with men, and it creates a problem for men. Do we reciprocate the disrespect or do we try to find a way to build rapport with people who think that misandry is a civic virtue? To OP: I would argue that there are women out there that you can sympathize with on some level, who genuinel…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 07:46 PM
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I agree with what someone is saying, doesn't mean I idolize them. I don't like influencers, drifters, and coaches. Doesn't change when what they say is factually correct. Gynocentric Simps are more dangerous and culturally corrosive than anything they have said.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:43 PM
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Not really. Any "panicking" occurs after you realize the cultural blindspot exists, once you realize it cannot be fixed, you can come to terms with civilizational collapse. We are speed running the mouse utopia experiment at terminal velocity. People who are too solipsistic to pay attention will maintain their delusional "status quo" until the collapse occurs. The hedonistic crowd is too busy chasing that validation high to pay attention to what happens to the economy when your social entitlemen…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:55 PM
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Slutshaming is a form of attack. Attacks are harm causing. Articulate the "harm." If you are referring to harassment, I would be inclined to agree, but it depends on where you draw the line. Not sure what you are referring to re: disagreement If you are inclined towards "playing the victim," you could argue that someone disagreeing with you would approximate a harm. (Similar to criticizing Israel yielding accusations of Anti-Semitism, but on Gendered Grounds).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 09:34 PM
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You sure use a broad brush champ. Hope you find happiness one day I am content, people who chase happiness at the expense of stability, are most likely chasing a high.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:33 PM
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Some of those high trust societies can be downright hostile tbh. I never claimed perfection, I claimed stability. People over-prioritize "niceness" and "comfort." Personally I think having diversity is good because it prompts people to learn and grow in ways I value, I don't like it when there is failure to police, adjudicate, or punish sexual abuse crimes because a certain "community" has been given unearned privileges to cater to unsubstantiated sanctimonious feelings. , but with that can come…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:32 PM
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There is a difference between shaming a behavior than denigrating a person. I lean towards generalized criticism unless they lean into the ad hom.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:27 PM
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Disagreement is not harm, your wold view is immaterial. Physical assault is obvious harm. Emotional abuse gets into gray areas depending upon how it is defined.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:24 PM
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Did you think you were doing something profound here or are you just now realizing that your response was ridiculous, given the context? Your inability to grasp what I was trying to say is not my problem. Also I am not debating to win you over, I am showcasing the misalignment between temperaments and perceptions between our "sides." Food for thought Thanks, but I'd rather not "starve." Regarding "slut shaming," I differentiate between shaming behaviors and people. I tend not to direct it "at" a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:20 PM
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Men wanting sex for a sandwich is far more prevalent Unrepresentative sample, basic math shows that most men are not in the relationship category, hence the bad actors sample is as unrepresentative as it is exclusive. I am guessing you are older than the peak fertility "cohort," so "Boomer" relationship problems don't interest me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:14 PM
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Suuuure bud. You were slut shaming people for their health. Totally believable. 🤣 Two separate things. Not surprised you failed to clock that. PEPFAR was targeted at Africa not Texas, duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:07 PM
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Simping is the status quo...so "yikes" not withstanding, most modern relationships aren't healthy IMHO. Simping is the proximate cause of the birth rate collapse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:05 PM
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Number one concern with bodycount is how it impacts long term pairbonding. Regarding sex, it increases the likelihood of STDs or unplanned pregnancy. Pretty Simple Logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:03 PM
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Verbal attack or fist to the face? Are we talking threatening physical violence or nebulous "emotional violence?"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 08:01 AM
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Aggression is not ever to be 'dismissed' by 'get over it' Digression aside, both sides can claim this viewpoint. As a man, the only times I have gotten truly angry is when I catch someone in a lie. It's the ultimate form of disrespect for me, and it changes how I view them. While I would never want to date an overtly promiscuous woman, I definitely would respect them more than the one who lies to me for their personal convenience, because I risk investing in someone who secretly does not respect…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 08:00 AM
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. It was pretty obvious that the men doing it were jealous because those women were having the casual sex they wanted and couldn't get ...That's not why I care...how was it obvious? What was your sample size? Other people's insecurities never did and never will affect the choices I make for myself. I literally worked in AIDS relief...there were people pushing circumcisions as a form of AIDS prevention....I used to wonder...why not lead with the condoms? Also...Texas Spring Break had crazy amount…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 07:55 AM
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Why do men get so mad when women call them incels? Why do women ask questions they don't care to know the answers to? It comes down to more men caring about what is objectively true rather than what is emotionally convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 07:50 AM
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Incels hate women. Incel isn’t about celibacy. Incels aren't really a thing IRL. Most people called incels don't actually see themselves that way. Some of the people who are called incels, are actually having sex. Also misogynists hate women, hating women isn't an essential component of Inceldom.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 08:01 PM
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A man becomes a new person everytime he walks into a room with new people in it. There are people who live completely segregated lives between who they are online and who they are IRL. Also a person is an ephemeral and changing being, if you've ever gone through a major trauma, its often easier to conceive of your past self as a different person. A lot of people develop a degree of body dysmorphia after they age or go through life altering injuries. A lot of old people think of themselves in an …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:54 PM
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You just gave the same definition for two different things, that's like a blind person explain the difference in color between apples and oranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:46 PM
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Another day, another man complains that he can't just sit on his ass and women would come and offer themselves to him (hot women), and call it entitlement of women and unrealistic expectations of men. Thank god we have brave people like you to sit and and provide meaningless commentary instead of addressing the topic at hand or engaging with the rationale behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:43 PM
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OP is clearly just here to complain, not even sure there's enough in this post to debate. There are pills for that, red ones, black ones...green ones... Just don't take the dog pill, that gave me nightmares. Never could look at Peanutbutter the same way again. We can barely agree on the basics, I think it's safe to say people will continue to do whatever the fuck they want. Not everyone lives in a "Diversity is Our Strength" multicultural shithole, some people live in high-trust homogenous socie…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:41 PM
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American women really just accept anything including 50/50 dates. Several Qualifiers Needed. Also not accounting for Foodie Calls, Situationships, and other socially retarded modern dating conventions. The women in the country I’m from could and would never lol. In Japan, the astrology girls usually also are really into bloodtype for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:37 PM
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Nobody just asks someone on a date and they say yes. What happens is that there is some period of talking, ranging from a couple/few days to a couple weeks, in which you both assess whether you even want to go on a first date. Believe it or not, dating used to be semi-normal in the '90s & early 2000s. Comparing that with the social standards of today is ridiculous. Apparently a lot of Gen Z thought massive house parties were "just a movie thing."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:34 PM
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I’ve never seen a simp "Turns out the real Simp was inside us all along." "Stand by Jasleen" Akash Singh, 2024.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:30 PM
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Like a mole rat, they are looking for a warm dark place, they can really stick their "head" into.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:23 PM
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"A Simpanzee is many things, Phallicular, Son of Groin; But here on Reddit, He is Mod." "Lord of the Things," Book VII, Chapter 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:22 PM
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Some women get off on it in a sadomassochistic sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:16 PM
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The fact is no one actually has to be an employee. You apply for a job. The employer doesnt come to you asking you to work. I actually think there is some cross over into the labor force when you account for how women are over-represented in Admissions and HR departments. There is a reason why online dating is congruous with the moronic requirements in job listings online. Like the infamous 5-Year Entry Level Ghost Jobs that they put out there to project growth and how that is analogous to women…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:05 PM
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Dude, you guys are jsur focused on the extremely attractive women you want (or the women you’ve convinced yourselves were average) simps are not an issue for the majority of women. You've clearly never heard of dead bedrooms or all the bitching I've seen online. Behind every intolerable social media addicted thot is a legion of useless pussy worshipping simps. Simps are the ones who validate bad behavior in women and compete with each other over who can give the most in exchange for shitty ROI.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 06:52 PM
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I frigging love Epistemology. I could also argue that the alleged "distortions" are more representative of our "true selves."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 06:45 PM
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We're talking about wife treatment whoosh you missed the point. Thanks for the irrelevant observation. Right, 90% of American Husbands are overly submissive "SIMPs" to their Wives. Ergo the Traditional Validation-Seeking behaviors of "Wife Treatment" is heavily associated with being a Simp in younger generations of men. Basically, Male enabling proto-cuckhold behavior. Its where men become overly emotional and cloying in an effeminate attempt at keeping a lackluster relationship alive with "chor…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 06:18 PM
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You can't say simps are thirsty and desperate when your standard for being a simp is "pays for a date" and "acts chivalrous". Simp became a catch-all for male validation-seeking seeking behaviors after emulating the degenerate "romance" genre of the eighties & nineties started yielding suboptimal results. Picture Tom or Grandad from the Boondocks. The Antonym to Pimping. Basically its cringeworthy thinking that presumes that "acting like a gentleman" is going to win over the cynical "village bic…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 06:06 PM
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You're overly conflating "Simp" with "Incel."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:46 PM
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Its a fun house reflection of real life, and is therefore evocative of real things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:44 PM
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This does not happen lol You clearly haven't seen that video of that single mom bitching about a "first date" with a man who didn't want to buy food for her collection of semi-feral kids. (For context they met online). There was another one where she was bitching about "dusty" men who wouldn't pay for a babysitter or for her nails/hair (which looked awful btw).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:43 PM
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To me the wife treatment to be honest sounds horrible. Like a man promising to do something but not doing for months. Or demanding dinner. Talking about how he hates me because I nag (even if I don't)... Look up the "overly emotional boyfriend" Brendan Fraser clip from that Bedeviled movie. That's more accurate to what a Simp is. Its cloying, emotionally laden, validation seeking behaviors like blowing up your inbox because he thought you gave him a "look" that one time. Overly submissive, a pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:38 PM
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Dude’s gotta promote his YouTube channel somehow Perfect example of vacuous validation seeking behavior. A key part of Simping.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:27 PM
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Someone that devalues their own social currency through cloying & effeminate validation seeking behaviors, and being overly submissive to women. A practitioner of "Bitch-Think" that relies upon appeals to emotion rather than cold/hard masculine facts & logic. A proto-cuckhold who devalues his own investments in time & resources for mediocre pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:22 PM
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According to Etymological Research, the modern usage comes from the 1960s and was slang for being excessively submissive to your girlfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:20 PM
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In the 1920s, "simp" was a common slang abbreviation for "simpleton," referring to a foolish, gullible, or silly person. It was used generally to describe someone lacking intelligence, rather than strictly in a romantic context. The term appeared in media, including a 1923 New York Times article, often highlighting a "simple" person. In the 1920s, "simp" was a common slang abbreviation for "simpleton," referring to a foolish, gullible, or silly person. It was used generally to describe someone l…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:17 PM
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Simp is slang for Simpleton, it goes back to at least the 1920s. In modern parlance, it is used to refer to cloying validation seeking & effeminate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:12 PM
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Then what was the point of your video? Never mind. I don’t care. We’re done here. "I pick the bear" "Okay, show her what she's won" I've literally explained it over and over. You only refuse to see it because living in prejudice is easier for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:35 PM
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that's not the concern men who say casual sex is bad have. So you deny my existence. Interesting strategy cotton, we'll see how that works out for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:30 PM
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"shaming people for things being easier" The shame comes from the danger and damage to the community at large. Men stepping outside of marriage is bad enough, but women stepping outside of marriage leads to total social anarchy. Women stepping out means that surnames can no longer be used to establish parentage, this increases the likelihood of inbreeding. Also factor in the correlation between increased promiscuity and lowered pair bonding. The more partners you have, the lower the likelihood o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 08:09 AM
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The "rationale" I see the same men give behind why it makes sense directly correlates these concepts when there actually isn't any logically coherent reason to do so. Natural selection drives men to ensure that any children they provide for is genetically related to them. I would argue that the "logic" of evolutionary psychology is predicated upon ensuring that their genetic legacy is passed on. Also promiscuous women having children outside of wedlock increases the likelihood of incest overtime…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 08:00 AM
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So your “evidence” is an angry bear? How often are you "angry" when you bite into a hamburger? The worst bear attacks don't have an overt sign of a ggression. Even a minimally informed person would know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 06:15 AM
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What do you mean by "most?"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 05:51 AM
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That said, I’ve never once cheated in my life. 🤷🏼‍♀️ How many women would say different even if they did cheat? Its why demonstrated promiscuity is so key. If a woman will sleep with you on the first date, it shows she has a lower barrier to entry and is a higher liability for infidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 05:41 AM
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There are SO many women who knowingly fail to disclose they have an std.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 04:48 AM
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Gross for engaging in it frivilously without properly vetting your partners first.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 04:47 AM
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Having sex isn't moral rot, it's human and it should be something that's fun. It's not the sex its the qualifier before it and the context surrounding it. We all agree that nonconsensual sex is wrong because of the negative effects. Promiscuous sex can be argued to be bad too for the negative effects that resulted from it. You just don't because you're artificially distanced from most forms of consequences that result from it. (Except when you're not). Look up that poor schmuck from Spring Break…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 04:43 AM
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And the risks are mainly to the participants. Babies? Accidentally Spreading STDs? Emotional convenience doesn't efface uncomfortable truths.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 04:40 AM
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It’s about women having casual sex. If it can result in an abortion then the act is not casual, the actors are simply frivolous.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 04:38 AM
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You can continue missing the forest for the trees by yourself, I have more interesting uses of my time How VERY interesting. If you genuinely did not care about what was being discussed, if you truly thought that my counterfactual on fucking fat fucks was irrelevant, then what compelled you to respond? Engagement in any conversation involving the disgust over hyperpromiscous women showcases that you genuinely care on some level. You may hem and haw, but if you were genuinely indifferent to the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 04:34 AM
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Your anecdote doesn't mean anything to me, Your inability to perceive a truth says more about your faculty of perception than it says about the nature of the truth itself. relevance to the point of my comment The arguments you have attempted to advance are predicated upon an improperly framed hypothetical. It is logically incoherent. You are appealing to relativistic standards when the context shows an objective reality you are refusing to contend with. You ultimately DO care what people think, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 04:18 AM
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No one said anything about "morbidly obese" Ah, but YOU just did as everyone can see. Checkmate Feminist. There are degrees of sexual preference when it comes to fatness in women, but in aggregate the data is clear. No one enjoys fucking a TRULY fat fuck. Also I stand by all the other aspects of my comment which you have carelessly disregarded. Even in countries where being FAT is conflated with wealth, no one without degenerate sexual preferences is enjoying sex with a person shaped like an ovo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 04:07 AM
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Of course it does. In poor countries, being overweight is a social status symbol Even if a fat person is seen as wealthy, that doesn't mean that they are seen as pleasant to fuck. Which is kind of the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:43 AM
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In wealthy countries being fat is considered gross regardless of your personal level of income or status, regardless of your "access to food." Weird thing to focus on, but I have spent time with people from multiple countries in Europe, Asia, the Middle East, India, Africa, Australasia, and South America. Being morbidly obese has always been perceived as disgusting and evocative of a slovenly disposition in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:41 AM
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No, he was right about the Military, Firefighters, and Police.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:37 AM
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Wrong. You were right and he/she* was wrong. You weren't wrong about firefighters, because even when they have unisex standards, the women have been usually relegated to support roles engaging in activities which naturally have higher requirements for physical labor and exertion. (The only exception I can think of has been the most recent California wildefires which didn't have enough men to go around due to discrimination in hiring practices). I know these double-standards from conversations I …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:37 AM
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California female fire fighters were lambasted after tacitly and explicitly admitting that they were incapable of carrying an incapacitated man out of an exigent circumstance. You'd have to be wholly disingenuous not to acknowledge a strength differential when both groups are compared side-by-side. I also noticed that when they use convicts to fight wildfires, they never seem to use convicts from female prisons. Why do you think that is? To bastardize & paraphrase past comments you've made, "its…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:28 AM
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This is genuinely embarrassing. I hate to invoke it, but you have truly embodied the dunning-kruger effect in this thread. Hegseth has been pretty clear in the past that he doesn't like women in combat roles, because they have been consistently shown to be a liability in combat scenarios. All female combat units consistently are grossly ineffective in combat scenarios, coed units are hampered because the men are picking up their slack, and all male units tend to perform at a much higher level. H…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:21 AM
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Downvoting is not an argument bro, its fine when accompanied with an argument, but without it, it is more evocative of emotional incontinence. Thanks for demonstrating my point about histrionic modes of thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 02:21 AM
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The OP topic that I’ve been talking about: "in-group sensationalism and overdramatization" Unaccountable people are more prone to in-group sensationalism and overdramatization, because they are emotionally incontinent. Sorry I had to hold your hand, but its okay if you don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:25 AM
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Ah yes I can clearly see your posts are only about objectivity and not emotion. Irrelevant snark aside, I never claimed to be a Vulcan. I try to argue the facts as best I can on issues which I think matter. I try to avoid getting emotional myself because I see it as being detrimental to my performance and objectivity. Women are never conditioned out of this behavior growing up, so they often default to appeals to emotion or through character assassination. Maybe there is a biological component t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:23 AM
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You handwave centuries to cherrypick examples that highlight differences which you conflate with superiority. The best ones you found were a fat German Heretic and a witch hunter (Malleus Malificarum does arguably describe some unspoken negative female characteristics), they would hardly be "representative" of men's attitudes towards women in the day to day. All men naturally love women and want to protect them, its the modern world that has destroyed that through mass migration and reckless soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:12 AM
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I was busy, and her examples conflated observed aggregated differences as the same as saying women are inferior. If you had to move a heavy couch, would you be more likely to call a man or woman? I have never seen a woman who was as proficient at manual labor as a man. They are very good at "working" in air conditioned administrative office jobs, but anytime I've been forced to work with them in hard-core physical labor, they gas out. I have seen female "movers," they mostly run their mouths and…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:05 AM
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Moral Equals does not mean social equals. No man would doubt the intrinsic value of a woman, he just wouldn't judge her by a male metric. Saying something is different isn't the same as saying something is inferior. Men and women have different competencies. Being subordinate in situations does not automatically equate to being inferior. If you were in the military, you'd know this, you salute the rank not the man. Why are you denigrating women for their ability to create and shape children? A g…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 12:52 AM
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I am in my 30s and I vet the f*ck out of everyone I am interested in. TBH, I could never do the "casual" thing very well in my 20s, I take people seriously and if they are frivolous about the people they are with, then I assume they are too dangerous to attach myself to. I am pretty upfront about what I think, and am pretty harsh on myself and others. But, I don't hate them, because I am careful to not fully invest in them. Life is hard enough as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 05:04 PM
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I wish we could actually do something about it. In the 80s and 90s we used to have the mall. Bars are okay but I have seen too many bar fights.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 04:53 AM
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I have lived as a pariah. Validation doesn't mean anything to me, because I never really had it in the first place. Honestly the people who fixate on how other people perceive them seem trapped by the perceptions they are trying to curate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:54 PM
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Bars and Professional Associations, you know actual career focused networking? You missed the most important ones. Third spaces are drying up for men, not that you'd be capable of giving a shit. "Try again"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:48 PM
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"Youre not making any sense, so I am just muting you." Again, I literally don't care, not my problem if you can't keep up. Narrowly defining what the tiktokthot hypothetical really means, ignoring the obvious ragebait intention, and disregarding any attempt at establishing an alternative interpretation as "irrelevant" just showcases your innate prejudice against men in general. Its beyond obvious that you cannot conceive of a situation in which a man is discriminated against on the basis of gend…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:12 PM
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Why should I? Its not like you're contributing anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:46 PM
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You’re not responding to what’s being said, you’re trying to make it sound worse than it is. You're either in denial, dishonest, or incapable of grasping the correlations I am drawing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 06:57 PM
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The inciting incident was a false accusation from a woman. Cute dodge though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 06:55 PM
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Looking forward to mine. Cheers. 🍻 I genuinely don't get what the other "side" gets out of this debate. I guess when you're propped up by overly censorious moderation, you feel like a big fish in a small pond. To me it just looks like condescending nepo babies bragging about their certificates of completion. You know the LinkedIn guys who are posting inane articles every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 06:48 PM
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No we are not talking about odds. We are talking about fears and feelings. Then you are talking about uninformed opinions born from innate ignorance and deep rooted prejudices.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 06:28 PM
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You clearly haven't read what I already wrote on that. The key word is "alone" and the context of what "being alone" actually means. You're almost never truly alone in the woods, that changes the nature of the hypothetical, to a place like Alaska or Canada, and at that point, the scenario itself is arguably more hazardous than the man or bear. Anyone who doesn't get this is too sheltered or ignorant to have a worthwhile opinion. They don't know what being "alone in the woods" actually means.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 06:24 PM
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You're trying to mansplain women into feeling different. Nope, I am trying to get you to showcase the depth of your innate prejudice against men. I have no interest in "changing your mind," its a useful exercise in studying how my ideological enemy thinks. That's the sole reason why I am doing this. I already know that your conception is inaccurate, I am just trying to gauge the extent of the dysfunction.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 06:22 PM
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As to the topic, and the "real issue" - who gives a shit about this "man/bear" meme? I care about the Misandry not the Meme. That there are misandrist women with extreme views is a given but they are a minority and are clearly balanced in energy and emotion by the men who waste their time obsessing about them and their perceived influence. They are not a minority, that's the problem, most young men (not on here) see this as the case. You just don't see it from your perspective. That's the true s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 06:15 PM
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Do you seriously not know that they lynched white people? Why would I answer that if you are incapable of acknowledging that he was targeted for being a black man, did you seriously not read up on his case? I am not saying that a black woman wouldn't be discriminated against, but what happened to Emmett Till was partially because of his masculinity. I know that you like to ignore inconvenient facts, but its genuinely disturbing that you hate men this much.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:45 PM
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Would he have been killed for that if he was a woman, yes or no? I am not deflecting I genuinely see you as prejudiced. I am not embarrassed at all, men are disrespected here every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:26 PM
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We’re not talking about DEI, we’re talking about your claim that a safety hypothetical is equivalent to systemic harm. It is when a woman's perceptions can get you fired or put you in prison. If you think there’s systemic discrimination, make that case with actual evidence. There were literally articles from Fortune 500 magazines where they bragged about not hiring men. Your wilful ignorance is not an excuse
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:20 PM
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He was targeted because of race AND gender. It was because of the false accusation from a woman. Also do you seriously not know they lynched white people too? Its genuinely disturbing how wilfully blind you are to gender-based discrimination, but only care when race is invoked. Women are a little too comfortable condescending to men about things they've never experienced. I genuinely think your "side" doesn't see people like me as human, that's why I had to invoke race. You're incapable of empat…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:13 PM
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So you think that Emmett Till was dangerous to women? Emmett Till https://share.google/NhH5fzgOzsPNPlhu4
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:50 PM
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You were unable to admit that Emmett Till was targeted because he was both black and a man. I think its safe to say that you have thoroughly discredited yourself by only acknowledging half of the crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:49 PM
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and that just isn’t backed by reality. What specific parts of the article do you most disagree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:47 PM
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My group was systemically harmed by affirmative discrimination policies. https://youtu.be/-w7pc65zGUo?si=d_T0Y_2XDZzE02K8 It's genuinely disgusting that you're lying so flagrantry about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:44 PM
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This is less dangerous than men according to these women: https://youtu.be/dHdNmXFW2n4?si=1bl6_FoC1egJMzTq
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:40 PM
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You're going to have to click this and tell me you still think men are more dangerous https://youtu.be/dHdNmXFW2n4?si=1bl6_FoC1egJMzTq Also the original TikTok video I remember included women in the UK, how many bears are in the UK?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:39 PM
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An opinion article isn’t proof of systemic harm. A feeling isn't proof a systemic harm, but an opinion at least has to use facts to support its claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:27 PM
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Good grief, I wasn’t gonna pick the bear in general… but I’d pick a bear over someone showing obvious signs of insanity if that were the question instead. https://youtu.be/dHdNmXFW2n4?si=1bl6_FoC1egJMzTq You're right, go cuddle with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:26 PM
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It doesn’t seem worth getting all dramatic about when it’s a small subset of people. Then why waste so much energy trying to protect it? Its like watching a racist trying to sneak scientific racism into a biological textbook.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:10 PM
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Recognizing that an unknown person carries some level of uncertainty isn’t the same as believing all men are dangerous. It is the same, you're just trying to save face and hide your overt misandry. You’re forcing that into a binary so you can call it prejudice. At least you get a binary, I was lumped into a dataset with murderers and rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:06 PM
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I’m not going to engage with extreme hypotheticals or defend random statements from other people. Its not fair being compared with people you had nothing to do with is it? Imagine being conflated with rapists or murderers. (The hypothetical allows for good or bad men).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:04 PM
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You’re jumping from a thought experiment to “women want to sterilize boys” to “do you see boys as monsters.” That’s not a serious argument, it’s just escalation. Cause and effect might be difficult to grasp when your prioritize female feelings over material reality. Sorry, but the fact that you can't honestly answer the question tells me everything I need to know. Only women are taken seriously when they don't 'Feel safe" only difference is I have material facts I can point to. If you want to di…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:03 PM
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Its relevant because of its predicated upon female feelings, not material reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:58 AM
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He was a man and she was a woman. Its funny how you care about nuance NOW, but not when women are conflating all men with being potentially dangerous or rapey. The logic at play is identical and it shows how overtly hypocritical your position is. Respectfully, Grow up. Honestly its getting to the point that I don't feel safe with feminists teaching children. This hypothetical doesn’t deny men rights, get them killed, or strip them of protection. You are in no position to assert that to a man who…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:56 AM
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The hell it is, reddit is literally predicated on tone policing. Moderation is literally a female trait. If you can only feel safe by curtailing another's speech, then you're the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:45 AM
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Also your verbosity makes you sound ridiculous. Well my perception of you is that you're potentially dangerous like him https://youtu.be/Xjdal1YPbeM?si=J_m3wsTWPHNqulhr. So maybe you should go jump in a bear pit, so we are all more safe? in real life but the world is worried about female preference? I am worried about the consequences of catering to uninformed female "feelings" Hey look real life consequences: Emmett Till https://share.google/NhH5fzgOzsPNPlhu4
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:43 AM
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She was driving on a suspended license, she had to be let off to be in that situation. Its ghoulish that you can be so glib over the death of a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:40 AM
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Because none of these women have to convey these feelings with facts, the value of any "data" gleaned is negligible. What value am I supposed to.ascribe to an uninformed opinion? https://youtu.be/Xjdal1YPbeM?si=J_m3wsTWPHNqulhr Any data gleaned is at best a secondary affect of the primary purpose, relishing the perceived distress that has been caused to men. If they wanted men to take these "feelings" seriously they should have limited the sample size to female hikers and not drunk women in metr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:35 AM
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https://youtu.be/Xjdal1YPbeM?si=J_m3wsTWPHNqulhr Reality is so misogynistic. Women should be held accountable for their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:29 AM
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It is not the same thing if its co-ed, women tone police every space they enter, it prevents honest conversations about unflattering aspects of female nature and removes a "safe space" to talk. There are plenty of jobs, grants, and business opportunities explicitly reserved for women, but none for men. That's your fault, not society's. Actually no, its objectively tone-deaf women who think like you. You don't get to speak for me, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:27 AM
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Men aren’t losing rights, jobs, or access to anything over this. https://www.google.com/url?shttps://www.forbes.com/councils/forbescommunicationscouncil/2025/07/09/when-dei-overcorrects-the-risk-of-exclusion-in-the-name-of-inclusion/ The attitudes on display are positively correlated with real world misandry, so keep gaslighting all you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:24 AM
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Racism involves real, systemic harm to specific groups. So you're not seeing how women being chronically afraid of men can yield real systemic harm to specific groups? Emmett Till https://share.google/NhH5fzgOzsPNPlhu4
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:20 AM
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It’s a thought experiment about perceived risk, Its a valid comparison, thought experiments yield real world consequences. If you can't see why I find this disturbing, I can't help you. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:17 AM
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You’re not responding to what’s being said, you’re trying to make it sound worse than it is. I've literally had women tell me that we should start sterilizing boys at birth to prevent toxic masculinity, that wasn't based on a feeling and I would argue that women like that are more dangerous than any man. I have every right to distrust you because "I don't feel safe"with women like that in society. So yes, I want to know if you see little boys as potential monsters.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:15 AM
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You’re turning a general category into a blanket statement and then reacting to that. You're telling me that the blackout drunk girl on the boardwalk had such a nuanced interpretation? Based on what? Your subjective reading of a TikTok Ragebait hypothetical? Even accounting for randomness, she by picking the bear, she is saying it is more likely that men who are out in the woods (like me) are bad. By that "logic" there would be national guard stationed at every trailhead to account for all the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:11 AM
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Nothing is “misrepresenting men” because nothing is making a claim about men in the first place. " Then why say "men?" Your claim is objectively false. Its a reflection of her perception of all men (because any one of them could be swapped in right?) Picking the bear implicitly shows that she has a low opinion of all men. There are dozens of comments in this very thread supporting my interpretation. It’s a scenario with an unknown person. Bold-faced lie, its an unknown man. The hypothetical is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:02 AM
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That’s not “applying standards equally,” it’s misrepresenting the point. Like how the hypothetical misrepresents men? If the validity of the hypothetical is predicated upon the relativism of the woman's feelings, what is to prevent me from invoking the same relativistic standard in my interpretation of said hypothetical? I would argue that my interpretation is truer to what was actually being said within its disengenuous prejudicial framework. Don't like my interpretation? Too bad, my "feelings"…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:42 AM
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“Man” is just the variable in the scenario, not a statement about all men. Wrong. If the sample size is all men, then the claim is about all men. They could have said "shifty men or hungry bears" but they didn't bother to qualify. Because insulting men in general was the point. Besides if I "feel" that women were directing it at all men, then it is equally valid following the relativistic logic of your bigoted hypothetical. I am sorry if applying standards equally distressed you? May I suggest l…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:26 AM
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You’re proving the point more than arguing against it. I am proving that women are arguably more bigoted than the men they claim to be afraid of. If men were truly more scary than bears, then prove it and go jump in the bear exhibit at the local zoo, maybe they will keep you safe from the hordes of men that you see around you? When you look at a little boy do you also see a future monster?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:16 AM
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It’s a hypothetical people are using to talk about perceived safety, not a legal claim about men. I have seen identical arguments employed against desegregating schools. You’re reacting like this is a courtroom when it’s just a thought experiment. The only reason people haven't been sued over it is because there would be too many plaintiffs and defendants for a valid class action. Its similar to "would you rather meet a black man or a bear in an alley at night?" Not that far off the hypothetical…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:12 AM
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So say it then. Say you'd rather take your chances with a Lion on the Serengetti than an African Man. If race was truly no issue, you'd have no problem saying it. The reason I am invoking race is because the logic women are using to support this slander is identical to the scientific racism of the previous centuries.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:04 AM
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Man or Bear. They aren't qualifying the type of man or bear, and the mocking was directed towards men as a class. "No one conflated all men with anything." So, this is objectively false.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:59 AM
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You’re not responding to what was actually said, you’re responding to your own exaggerated version of it. The whole conceit of the "hypothetical" is how it makes the woman "feel," right? By that metric, my interpretation to how they make me "feel" is equally valid. I would argue that my interpretation is more accurate to what is actually being said. I am sorry if applying standards equally distressed you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:56 AM
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You need to take a break. Do you usually find it acceptable to condescend to strangers? Do you think that this may be why men don't respond in ways that you like? Drink some water and take a nap or something. You know its funny, the more people double-down on disrespecting men in general, the more energy I have. It's better than coffee.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:53 AM
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likely blame the victim in situations. If a woman drives recklessly and she has a major car accident is calking her out on that considered victim blaming? If it is considered Victim Blaming, why should anyone care? The insurance companies don't care, and contributory negligence is a real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:50 AM
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Are you capable of reciprocity with a man? I am genuinely asking. Seriously, name one time you were kind to a man. Can you conceive of men and women helping each other? Why would men and women help each other at all if men are just potential murderers/rapists? Do you think there is any overlap between the glut of women on psychiatric medication and the ones that think that conflating all men with murder/rape is an acceptable behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:47 AM
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So, to reiterate, have you seen or investigated a bear attack in your life? Name one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:44 AM
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The words those men wrote themselves if their own free will. Religion writings. Political rights for women. You don’t need any made up misandrist straw-puppet brainwashing professor to just read how men write about women before the modern era. Name one. Quote and Citation. Read some historical writings from men about how they felt about the women. Cute, I am literally a historian, but you made the claim. Substantiate it if you want me to take you seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:40 AM
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Anything predicated upon meeting a woman's "standards" is doomed to failure. It's why the modern conception of marriage has no credibility to me....I can't guarantee material circumstances or a life style with runaway inflation, collateralized debt, or social instability. Its like basing a relationship on your ability to maintain a carnival ride during a hurricane, either it eventually breaks down or she becomes bored. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:36 AM
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I am sorry, but male provisioning is absolutely a thing, these days men are even being blamed for women's poor reproductive choices because of financial viability issues: <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:29 AM
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I am a woman, but if you ask me, "lacking" in a support system or failing to have core experiences like romantic love(men) is way worse than simple unfulfillment(women). However, everyone is unique and can have horrible circumstances that makes life genuinely lonely, no matter the gender. Based. May I ask how you came to this conclusion? Most women don't "get it"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:25 AM
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You mean like bars, sporting clubs, professional associations, and the boy scouts? You do have Google right???
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:22 AM
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Women are literally blaming men for their own reproductive choices: <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:20 AM
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Everyone is happy. Then why do women dominate the market for SSRI's?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:07 AM
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That’s not what feminism is… No offense, but you lack the credibility to tell anyone what feminism is or us not. First thing men learn in this space is female conduct is the truth, female talk is just manipulation of optics. The truth of Feminism can be seen in its outcomes, the destruction of the single income household, tricking women en masse into opting into the lion's share of consumer debt, and subsidizing the superficial elevation of women at the actual expense of men. When you adjust for…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:06 AM
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What makes you think that people spending more time on their phones, socializing less, technology developing etc is caused by feminism or women’s feelings? These are caused by things that have nothing to do with feminism. Social media is almost exclusively catered to and marketed for women. Algorithmically curated simping gaslit women into thinking online attention was the same as genuine interest. This led to a distorted Sexual Market Value and this distorted sense of identity distorted their n…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:01 AM
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The loneliness epidemic is very much one of those unintended consequences and you have to accept that women's feelings were wrong if you want to actually fix the situation. Women and accountability are like water off a duck's ass. We need to systematically dismantle the male subsidized support network for this to happen. There is nothing more adverse to a man's long-term happiness than to spend an inordinate amount of time catering to the ephemeral "feelings" of a modern woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:52 AM
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Sexless marriages with solipsistic women have no intrinsic value.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:49 AM
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As soon as “lonely” men stop saying that they need easy access to regular casual sex in order to not be “lonely”. Men need physical validation in the same way that Women need emotional validation. These same men claim that women can’t be lonely because they can always find men who are willing to have sex (aka use them as a masturbation tool). Strawman. Not a surprise given how you trivialized being "lonely." Overall, I think men need to aggressively cut women who are incapable of reciprocating e…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:48 AM
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does it not logically follow that unmarried people are generally lonelier? I know too many men that have been isolated by their wives for this to be true. PSA: don't let any woman do this to you, or guilt you for maintaining healthy relationships outside of her orbit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:45 AM
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I think you're attributing too much to aesthetics. Sexual Access is not the same as Relationship Formation, provisioning is an extra data point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:43 AM
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I don't think there's really anymore to it. Every single male-centric space has been co-opted or destroyed to cater to women. It was accomplished through lawsuits, social engineering, and ideologically predicated loans. Its not just about getting laid, its male-to-male networking.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:40 AM
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I mean ye the "male loneliness epidemic" is a term that comes from mainstream media, That's true. I honestly think its just elites malding about the birthrate and blaming men "for not trying hard enough." Afterall, someone needs to by those 50 year mortgages. We all go through periods of loneliness. No point in bitching about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:37 AM
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I am sorry but those stereotypes are just reality. Any man who fails to learn some level of stoicism will never be able to exercise some degree of control over their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:32 AM
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This is the result of a lot of patriarchical gender norms centered on men being cold, strong, unfeeling machines. If these norms exist its exclusively policed by and catered to women. I have never had a man enforce "gender norms" on me, if he did I would just tell him to "fuck off." You tell a woman to fuck off? She'll burn the house down before she lets it go. Women try to control men through emotional manipulation and gaslighting. As if their emotional state has any intrinsic value to a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:29 AM
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It is largely affecting both groups though. It's only recognized as a crisis if it directly affects women. After a 5 to 10 years of seeing empathy only going one way, the whataboutism starts to ring hollow.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:26 AM
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I am going to go out on a limb and say that the emotions of women SHOULD be devalued. If attention is a currency then its been inflated to the point of absurdity courtesy of the algorithmic astroturfing of female preferences. Framing the world through female solipsism begets an overly myopic worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:23 AM
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You seem upset Rookie Gaslighting Move. You seem = I feel, discard anything that comes after it unless they substantiate with valid evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:19 AM
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You know most men aren't redpillers, right? Not saying they're perfect, but most don't go around thinking about being alpha. Redpill predates Andrew Tate and Myron Gaines.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:17 AM
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A lot of this is the result of patriarchical norms centered on men needing to be strong, without feeling, and the idea that seeking help or emotional support is weak and unmasculine. Lost me here, Feminists aggressively destroyed all male only spaces for years through a variety of tactics such as lawsuits and emotional manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:17 AM
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For every position that a man may have there are at least 30 women that will dislike it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:14 AM
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My LTR was from class, we met before the tinder bomb went off.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:12 AM
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Adapt and approach women in appropriate ways. Women are like horses, don't stand behind one unless you're willing to get kicked in the nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:11 AM
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Objective Truth is better than emotional convenience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:10 AM
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This...was a white pill for me, thanks for reminding me that normal people exist. Regarding wolves being more leery of men, I think I got that from this: "Why Wolves Hate Men & Not Women:" https://youtu.be/NN8k0WvSN1I?si=CYwLotm3lFYvF1vS I should look for some research papers to corroborate this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:04 AM
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That's not an argument. Thanks for the condescending ad hom though. Its strange, I don't remember talking to you before so how would you know whether I was arguing for 'x' hours? Is this a sock puppet account? Edit: Only post I have seen you make to this subreddit thread was 6 minutes ago, so I am going with sockpuppet account. If you are having stamina issues there are pills for that, but you might be averse to taking them considering the "color."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:23 AM
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Did you have anything substantive to add? You just accused me of fantasizing about women drowning. Are you going to recant on that or are you going to double down? I am fine either way, so far you are only showcasing that those that are okay defending this slanderous meme are okay with arguing in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:21 AM
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Cool and irrelevant. My points stand. I was merely invoking something you might have heard of that resembles situations I was familiar with. This AI laundered bullshit is insufferable, thanks for pointing it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:08 AM
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Why are you projecting malfeasance onto the hypothetical man? I am saying that any human being alone in the woods has a certain degree of isolation from civilization built into that premise. Otherwise the peril of "being in the woods" would be negated by merely walking away. Actually, I have had women help me out while I was hiking before (even though others here decided to ridicule me for it) which personally underscored the absurdity of the hypothetical for me. See the isolation and solitude a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:05 AM
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But sure bro, go ahead and scrutinize and criticize harshly, just don't pretend that women weren't already experiencing that treatment well before the bear debate and it has nothing to do with "equality", not before the bear, not after the bear. Translation: "Everything you articulated before was just emotional drivel and even if it wasn't, women experienced it first and worst." See, a man would be ridiculed for such a disengenuous take "sweetheart." Did you see how I tried to substantiate my cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 06:53 AM
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non sequitur about criminal sentencing I was talking about women not being held accountable at parity with men, what did you think I was talking about? I’ve heard nothing about per capita dramatics backing your assertion "Per Capita dramatics" lol. Per Capita, Men are policed and sentenced more harshly than women are for the same crimes. Its tricky because I know personally that a lot of women aren't even charged for domestic violence cases. How many male rapists do you know of who are able to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 06:35 AM
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Great! This is why women choose the bear. You're seething with resentment over the mere thought of "tiktokthots" choosing the bear over you, personally, after years of watching our basic rights eroded by the Epstein class that mostly men voted on to power. I thought it was because all men are potentially "dangerous?" I call them Tik Tok Thots because I genuinely believe them to be amoral validation addicts with misandristic tendencies. (Thanks for reinforcing this with your emotionally incontine…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 06:26 AM
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Do you think it was also magnified (and kept alive past its natural lifespan) by men who felt personally attacked? Hilarious, it was conceived from its inception as a way to slander all men. There is nothing "personal" about calling out objective slander as bullshit. I definitely have heard this meme complained about far longer, louder, and wider than I heard anyone supporting it. Irrelevant. As long as people keep tripling down, I hope people hold their feet to the fire. If men and women are su…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 05:57 AM
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That lady shot in Minnesota by ICE had joint custody and she was vilified even for that a framed as a dead beat mom! She blocked law enforcement and attempted to hit him with her car. She peeled out so fast that we are lucky she didn't crush people with her reckless driving. If you "don't understand" that vehicles can be used as a deadly weapon or believe that he should have just "let her go" then you clearly prioritize emotional convenience over objective facts. Women are held accountable for s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 05:52 AM
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It’s interesting you swerve to fantasize about women drowning. I find it interesting that you swerve to think that stemmed from a fantasy, I was referring to a case where a lifeguard was fired for misconduct after giving CPR. Another relevant case would be Daniel Reed and Jessica Moore: "Daniel grabbed Jessica to pull her out of the path of an oncoming vehicle, an action confirmed by surveillance footage. Jessica later filed a complaint, alleging the non-consensual touching was inappropriate and…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 05:31 AM
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Very good. I'm from the northern region of Canada. And I've been "truly alone" with bears in the woods on many occasions. Also moose, lynx, and all sorts of smaller creatures. Congratulations for finally saying something actually relevant. A little suspicious that it took this long before attempting to establish credibility, but I'll humor you for the moment. Surely you've heard of Olga Moskalyova, a 19-year-old Russian woman who was killed by a brown bear and its three cubs in August 2011 near …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 05:17 AM
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Only thing I found was this, you never said you encountered them alone, I didn't see where you said you met one "alone." I know you're arguing in favor of a meme designed to slander all men, but please try to be accurate. Despite how you may "feel," truth is more important to me. "I live in a high bear area. A bearea. It's quite common to run into bears after the spring thaw. Even my dad and his bush buddies said they'd rather run into a bear than some rando dude in the woods. I mean granted, I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 04:12 AM
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No one is saying that men can't engage in "bitch think," its about per capita comparisons regarding degree and proportion. To offset another pointless whataboutism: "Per capita, a Latin term meaning "by head," refers to calculations made on a "per person" basis. It is computed by dividing a total quantity (e.g., income, GDP, resources) by the total population. This metric enables standardized comparisons across different population sizes in economics, demographics, and estate law. " None of this…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 03:49 AM
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Its funny how these women try to manage the perception of them slandering all men with shaming language. "Lady, you just conflated all men with murderers and rapists over an animal you've most likely never met on your own, I have no reason to play nice with you."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 03:43 AM
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Most male to female violence comes from re-established relationships. Bad actors do exist in the wilds, but we are talking about odds. Even an absolute bastard in that situation would be leery of taking the risk of hurting you because he would be focused on survival (and women are seldom alone).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 03:31 AM
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You're talking to a backpacker. I concealed carry, but not because of bears. If you're in a scenario where you're either going to run into only one man or one bear, then your biggest concerns are going to be starvation and exposure. Any man who finds himself in the same situation will be thinking the same thing. We aren't even talking about National Parks at that point, we're talking about places in Canada or Alaska.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 03:29 AM
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Men literally are mortally terrifying to women, and women's fear of men is justified. It's not the existence I dispute, it's the odds and proportion. Most men are hardwired to naturally care for women and children. I definitely don't trust random women as a rule, but if I knew one was nearby and was in distress, I would want to know about it. However being casually conflated with rapists and murderers is only going to make young men more adverse to helping young women in distress and its going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 03:25 AM
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First off female bears are more likely to engage in bluff charges and usually only when they have cubs nearby (which is disallowed by the hypothetical). The fatal attacks are more likely to be for the sake of predation and usually by solitary males in remote areas (exactly like the hypothetical). (the predation motive in fatal attacks is actually higher in this subset of black bears than grizzlies). If your balls are all tied up in knots over 'man vs bear,' then how do you suppose women feel abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 03:01 AM
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Cute story. However, the hypothetical is that both woman and bear are alone in the woods. Think about what that means, in all the forests you've been in, have you ever truly been "alone?" The only places I can think of where you're likely to end up "alone" with a black bear is in Canada or Alaska. (Btw, the black bear is a 'gimme,' I could easily go for brown). Now for the bear to be alone, its either a solitary male or female without cubs.Females are more likely to have defined territories, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 02:43 AM
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As opposed to men who definitely don’t have in-group sensationalism and overdramatization. Especially not around these parts. Generally speaking, men are more likely to be held accountable for their actions, women are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 02:23 AM
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A woman can easily imagine a scary man scenario because she’s experienced creeps, catcalls, etc. She may not easily imagine a bear attack in detail, because she’s never been near one. That's not an excuse, they are held to be the equals of men legally, they should not be excused from such a display of gross negligence and objective slander. This wasn't a flash in the pan, they tripled down with overtly misandrist behavior and those involved should be taken to task for it until every utterance of…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 02:21 AM
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Men aren't immune to emotion, but they are far more likely to be held accountable than women, look at the most recent litigation farce that preceeded Trump's current administration. When have you ever seen a female politician be held to that level of adjudicative scrutiny? Clinton broke every federal regulation with her email server, anyone else would have died in Federal Prison for doing that. Also its strange at how much energy was exerted to link Trump to the Epstein Files, when Clinton is im…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 02:15 AM
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Also being alone in the woods is even more dangerous than being around a bear. Most Mother Bear attacks are bluff charges. Males are more likely to see you as food.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 02:08 AM
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Modern black bears evolved from centuries of interactions with modern humans, from arrow and atlatl to musket and AR-15s. If you and a bear are truly (alone) in the woods, then the bear has not been habituated to fear humans to the same extent as bears in well-trafficked areas. Also, assuming that the woman is smaller and lighter than a man her age (which statistically she most likely is) then that increases the likelihood that the bear will see her as a viable food source. "While most black bea…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 02:06 AM
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Its not women that are the problem, its the lack of accountability that makes enough of them think that slandering all men as a group is saying something worthwhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:56 AM
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The only difference here is you think I care what you call it. The attempt at contempt falls a little short when expressed in a direct reply to his point. If you didn't care why bother? Glad you understand my views on men then. In the same way any person would see conflating all men with rape/murder as a mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:54 AM
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For me, it wouldn't change at all. You hope your racism is a gotcha but men are the problem regardless of race. Translation: "Your demographic is still bad, even though you've demonstrated my logic runs parallel to Diamond miners in the Belgian Congo." For all my problems with Feminism, I have never seen modern women as having something intrinsically wrong with them, extrinsically definitely, but I never saw them as being solely defined by their worst behaviors. You are laughing off women doing …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:45 AM
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You have been debating in this subreddit for an awfully long time to claim to be "above" us. Like I said, Modern women do not seem to ever take accountability for the things they say or do. Imagine a man slandering all women (poorly) and then getting butthurt when women didn't let it go? You started this charade by doubling down, "look at the progression." FTR, most of the men I know (myself included) are in this space because we've seen women destroy men through heinous behavior, often to the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:13 AM
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If you say “image yourself in someone elses shoes”. It makes zero sense to start talking about which brand of shoes we’re talking about. Wooden clogs then. If shoe type "doesn't matter" why not try walking in a pair of Dutch clog shoes? How condescending and myopic does one have to be to ordain which facts are "irrelevant" to a hypothetical scenario? You've established no metric at all beyond a "woman's feelings."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:57 AM
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Did I say more than "ALL" other bears? "Polar bears have a stronger absolute bite force (approx. 1,200 PSI or 1,647 Newtons), holding the strongest bite of any bear species. Giant pandas, however, possess a disproportionately powerful bite for their size (approx. 1,300 Newtons, or ~5th among carnivores), designed for crushing bamboo, and are very close behind." Adjust for size...regardless... Population density is not being accounted for in your risk assessment. Pandas are never territorial? Wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:51 AM
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What does this have to do with the hypothetical? It’s completely unrelated. All men are bad is presumptively predicated upon men they have interacted with. If women are continually voting for the policies which have been causally shown to attract or create these kinds of men then they are accountable for curating the type of men they interact with. (Especially when women start to dominate the legal and administrative areas or society). If you create a mess and vermin move in, do I blame the verm…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:35 AM
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I think the philosophical nature of the man vs. bear thing went over a lot of your heads. You refuse to listen or understand and that's telling Condescending does not hide the innate malaise or stupidity. All the women who picked bear, implied that all men are inherently worse than a predatory interaction most of them are too ignorant to understand. Why would any man respect condescending ignorance that is packaged as a generalized insult? I've encountered plenty of bears and they all ran away w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 10:55 PM
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What does this have to do with the hypothetical? It’s completely unrelated. Just like the hypothetical, the context matters even if you are too lazy to consider it. I am not taking it too literally, they didn't pick a made up animal. Men have to take accountability for themselves, and women should too. If they can't then they really are too incompetent to vote. No that’s not part of the scenario. Tell me you don't go hiking without telling me you don't go hiking. People are almost always around,…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 10:43 PM
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Women solo hike and camp more than you think. A lot of us live in bear country too. You've probably never left the suburbs. I have encountered a male bear once alone. It was big enough to do real damage. Also, a woman actually helped me when I got lost on a shitty trail once. (Actually I showed her that it wasn't marked properly and we walked back together). Pretty much exactly the same as the hypothetical. Are you one of said women, or are you talking on their behalf? I don't put much stock in …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 10:22 PM
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Any other predator could be picked. Whether it’s a wolf, bear or dragon does not matter too much. Wolves are obligate carnivores and are more shy around men than women. Bears are not obligate carnivores, hence they tend to eat their prey alive. Dragons don't exist, and even a dunce would acknowledge that the realistic threat of the bear is what makes the hypothetical compelling. Ignorance is no excuse for an adult woman's lack of discernment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 10:12 PM
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What? What does this have to do with women preferring death over rape and what does it even mean? Women (and everyone) usually complain about the politics of the people they didn’t vote for, not the other way around… And which cities are dystopian (and why) that have a population of mostly women? They are actively curating the type of men they interact with by how they vote and engage politically. https://youtube.com/shorts/-w7pc65zGUo?si=iogLDJOCTVTjqwhb Its like exclusively dating OnlyFans cre…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 10:09 PM
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They don't know how'd they'd perform though, or have realistic expectations for what it feels like. Following your "logic," there's no need to test yourself or practice for survival scenarios since you answered a shitlib hypothetical once.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:58 PM
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I might even compliment your wife on her makeup and tell her to have a nice day ;) If she called the cops on you for sexual harassment? (Because technically you could be accused of that)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:56 PM
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Wrong. I am not insulting anyone here, I am calling out the women in the posts themselves for their lack of discernment, hypocrisy, and overt prejudice. Like what would happen to any man. I care about accountability, celebrating willful ignorance is not a civic virtue. It's bad for society. Pro-Tip: actually read what is written before projectile vomiting the strawmanned impressions in your head
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:52 PM
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The hypothetical is being posed to biological women. Not you, not me. If you saw meme compilations with them going on and on about how dangerous transwomen are, how would YOU feel?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:49 PM
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I’ve said multiple times that I would rather be alone with a black bear than a man. Alone with zero civilization around? The bear isn't the only threat in this hypothetical, the environment itself can kill you and there are zero other people in this scenario. Also, the black bears you've met are habituated to humans. The ones that weren't scared did not survive. This scenario has no such context. The only certainty is zero civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:44 PM
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So what? If it was so important to men, then historically, they’d have treated women as real equals, instead of regarding women as inferiors. Who says they didn't? Your misandrist professor? Pretty clear it doesn’t mean all that much to men. 🤷‍♀️ How many posts in this sub are predicated upon precisely this issue? Clearly bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:42 PM
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There's zero credible cases of bears feeding and taking care of someone lost in the woods either. Also I am pretty sure the population density issue applies to Pandas. I have heard that Panda bites are arguably worse than most other bears.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:40 PM
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You are taking it too literally. Oh, so the hypothetical is only about figurative men and figurative bears? Why not ask about dragons then? Its churlish nonsense. It’s about women expressing the danger they feel from men and how they constantly have to adjust their life to avoid violence and harrasment from men. "Would you rather be stranded alone in the woods with an apex predator that eats its prey alive, or stranded with another person who may or may not be a good person?" That's the actual s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:34 PM
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Yes they do. That's like saying a virgin knows what sex is because they saw it online once.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:24 PM
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You heard an answer you didn't like and you got upset and started throwing insults. I insulted nobody, I was referring to the women I have seen in the videos online.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:21 PM
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Yes, she would be. She invoked her Dad and her Bush Buddies. The bears she has encountered have been predictable or unpredictable in predictable ways. Did she say she personally encountered the bear alone? The men she has met in the woods have not been. Oh, now she met men alone in the woods? How risque. Are you talking about the same woman? Maybe you are referring to the blow-up one you've seen rolled up under your bed? Keep strawmanning.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:20 PM
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The Fascinating Progression from "look how stupid men are" to "who cares, its a stupid hypothetical anyway." Women and accountability, not even once.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:16 PM
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They are too solipsistic to care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:13 PM
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Population Density is apparently not a thing. The hypothetical says alone, that means no civilization or gun shy bears around you. Even in national parks there is usually someone else around. It's clearly a "deep woods" scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:12 PM
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What if I changed it to "Would a woman rather be alone in a locker room with biological woman or a transwoman?" Would you relate better to the hypothetical then?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:09 PM
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We don't want to be in the woods period, and absolutely not with the kind of person who brings "but black people" into literally everything The point which you are deliberately being obtuse about is that the framing is overtly prejudicial, adding race to it changes it to something these hypocrites would see as unacceptable. It also speaks to the fact that they are ignorant to what the danger of a bear actually is. Imagine telling an African you'd rather be alone with a lion than another African …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:06 PM
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You literally engaged in "whataboutism" instead of attacking the faulty premise, I doubt you sincerely care about it dying off.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:02 PM
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Almost none of these mouthbreather "bear" women have ever spent a night alone in the woods.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 08:59 PM
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It's quite common to run into bears after the spring thaw. You mean when they are waking up? I mean granted, I'm talking black bears, but come on, it's common sense. The scenario is being "alone in the woods." That means no one else is around, at all. (Except the hypothetical bear or man). You know, a deep woods survival scenario. Ask your dad and his "bush buddies" if a woman would be better off in that scenario. Honestly, I can't believe we're still talking about this. We've gone through a cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 08:58 PM
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They don't know what a bear is, or what being lost in the woods is. ("Logic:" Teehee, I saw one online once) As for men, they only know the effete liberal simps, and aggro losers from single mother households that they interact with daily. They are lucky if they know their father, (although, I would suspect their fathers were henpecked losers too.) You know how foster children that have abusive or negligent parents have trouble forming stable relationships? Apply that standard to the whole city.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 08:44 PM
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No it’s called learning, especially when you’ll get blamed for other people actions against you. Learning what exactly? That giving a demographic that eschews accountability the power to decide policy is a bad idea? No shit. Our modern cities are dystopian, hyper-feminized, low-trust shitholes. They would be unlikely to help anyone if there wasn’t something it in for them I literally have had strangers help me when I got hurt hiking in the woods, (men and women). These metropolitan bovine thots …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 08:13 PM
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It shouldn't require any specialized knowledge to answer the question. No, you're missing the point. Its a poorly formulated question. You don't have the necessary frame of reference to answer it. Asking someone who's never seen a bear, gone hiking, or even seen an animal attack is retarded. The only thing that can be gleaned is their degree of ignorance. Would you rather die from suffocation or drowning? I've never done either, so I can't answer it The Trolley Problem only makes sense if you ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 08:05 PM
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So if anyone was going to weigh in on such a ridiculous thing, Alaskan people might be the authority on the subject. If you're invoking the hitchhiker deaths, I think the survivorship bias might be a limiting factor. Also what is the geographic groupings of these rape statistics? Are we talking about cities, motorways, or deep woods scenarios?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:49 PM
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As someone who lived in a town where black bears would roam in to get at people's garbage I'm personally on team "please specify the kind of bear Then you're not the target demographic for this brain damaged "hypothetical." Imagine asking this question to someone who lives around sloth bears.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:46 PM
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The original interview that sparked the discourse was conducted by a male-run brainrot TikTok channel. Who knows, maybe they did want to insult themselves Of course it was low effort ragebait.TikTok was always a shitty PsyOp. I stand by what I said, it was magnified by lazy misandrist women and simpy self-hating men. Social Media was always a vector for spreading mental illness, stealing data, and disseminating propaganda. Any personal validation for its user base is a secondary effect, it is in…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:44 PM
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It was framed as including all men in how it was (poorly) formulated. A good question involves something that is likely well known to the party. Most of these mouth-breathing idiots were sucking down lattes on campus. They should have been asking hikers in the woods.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:35 PM
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Have you ever seen or investigated a bear attack in your life? How often do you go hiking? Have you ever gotten lost in the woods? Their highly insecurities, selfish, have main character syndrome and likely blame the victim in situations. Or they realized that their innate drive to help other people was not appreciated by the opposite sex, and were hurt by this fact. Don't worry, this is a rapidly self-correcting "problem." Why take the chance and help that woman stranded by the side of the road…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:33 PM
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Would you rather eat barbed wire or an explosive bomb? Like. Its not meant to be something you sre actually having to deal with in real life per se. But its meant to get you thinking and engaging with other people and perspectives you may not have thought about Two things immediately jump out from this. (1) its a Shitty philosophical thought experiment because the ones "engaging" in it have never been lost in the woods or seen an animal attack firsthand in their lives. Did you know that wolves t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:18 PM
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I call it a "Thot Experiment," because it was overtly framed to insult men in bad faith, and judges all men by shitty metropolitan values. Its only intriguing to overly sheltered people who've never seen an animal attack firsthand in their lives. Of course strange men seem dangerous in civic centers with high crime and mass immigration, but men who actually spend time in isolated areas know different. Adverse environments do get human predators, but the vast majority are so focused on survival, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:03 PM
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I think it was designed to be uniquely insulting to men. Men innately value themselves on their ability to protect women and children (until we are conditioned out of it). The tree dig was poignant to men, but I don't think that "modern" women even understand what idyllic femininity actually is to a man. You don't insult materialists by impugning their character, they are incapable of valuing such things. If men were genuinely proportional in insulting them, we'd say the "average" woman looks li…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 06:53 PM
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What do you think of this development OP? Can't speak for OP. But this "progession" is clearly projection. Most guys took the hint, and stopped extending themselves for people that despise them. I think that what pissed men off was the showcased lack of discernment from the women in these shitty social media Q&As. I want to see women in high bear trafficked areas of Alaska and Canada weigh in on this, not mouth-breathing IG thots sucking down lattes on campus. Sheltered people (men or women) are…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 06:42 PM
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No, I mean literally institutionally supported, as in Governmentally enshrined, tax dollars going to fund gynocentric ideology. Anything supporting masculinity or male advocacy and the Department of Homeland Security will allocate funds for "studying" you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 01:10 AM
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Gender pay gap has been thoroughly debunked, you haven't filtered for number of hours worked, sales brought in, or titles held. If equity is the metric you're peddling then where are the affirmative discrimination practices for young men in admissions or HR? Part of the reason women contribute less tax is biological, women have higher costs for health services due to their biology and do more of the child rearing. Except the number of children being born is going down and the whole conceit of wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 07:39 AM
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Whereas women get: <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 07:18 AM
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If you have delusional standards being reinforced about men, then you do not value their contributions as well. (We all know male attractiveness is partially predicated upon perceived utility). If the economy is predicated upon the perception of value, and male contributions are artificially devalued, then men are specifically damaged by delusional female standards. The people artificially propping up this aggregate devaluing through algorithmic gaslighting and affirmative discrimination program…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 07:16 AM
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People pay taxes, men and women, thats how society works. Per Capita. Who pays more? Who takes more? If you dont want to pay taxes then go off grid and stop using services that other people's taxes pay for. This is literally criminalized and subverted and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 07:02 AM
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I raise you the male suicide rate. Most men commit suicide because they are trapped not because they are depressed. Also, barring chemical imbalances, demanding I pay for the female need to drown out reality, is literally just another way of forcing men to subsidize protecting women from the consequences of their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 06:54 AM
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I don't want to be forced into paying for women I have no relationship with through taxes and inflation driving policies. I see from your comments thats what you think should be happening. Strawman. I never said I wanted this, I am pointing out that men are coerced in aggregate to make sacrifices for women who do nothing in return. Overall, prioritizing the ephemeral "happiness" of women has been a net negative for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 06:49 AM
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Like women need to make great personal sacrifices at their expense for the sake of their kids and husband so that these kids and husbands will turn around likely not repay her for her sacrifice and ask the next generation to do so again for no good reason. If they are operating according to delusional standards, then they are a net negative to society. Look at the divorce courts for instance. Which demographic files more and what is the stated reason why? It can easily be assumed by looking at t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 06:45 AM
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How on earth does a safety net for vulnerable infants support your "women bad" philosophy? Strawman, women aren't inherently bad, but enfranchising any unaccountable demographic is absolutely bad for society. As for the female drop box thing, the point is that this has happened multiple times and fathers have no recourse if she does this without his knowledge. You have to be able to prove parentage, and even this can be concealed at the woman's convenience. Every case of a man doing this that I …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 06:37 AM
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The social entitlement programs are absolutely tilted towards women. Too lazy to do research? Go ask ChatGPT how many Federal grants and scholarships are explicitly targeted towards men vs women. Also in Government contracting there is often a stautorily enshrined bias towards Women. This is elevated above demonstrable merit or competitive bids. Also the math speaks for itself, even if you want to avoid looking at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 06:29 AM
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You have not made any personal sacrifices. Relax. As a man, you economically sacrifice yourself to feed into a system that disproportionately benefits women when it comes down to who pays more in taxes versus who takes more out. (Per capita). Also remember the grief over state subsidized Planned Parenthood? Just because I avoid being in a relationship with a woman doesn't keep me from having to literally pay for their poor reproductive decisions. Taxes are too high as it is, and they get appreci…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 06:21 AM
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Oh, that makes sense, thank you for clearing that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 06:17 AM
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What exactly are my "delusional standards", how have they cost you, and what is the amount of the "reparations check" you believe you are owed? I don't care about your standards specifically I am speaking about how women act in aggregate. I don't actually want a reparations check not because its not owed, but because economically its not feasible. (Its the money in vs money out ratio btw, men put more in than take out per capita). I genuinely think the dollar is toast but that's a whole other ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 06:13 AM
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What is the male to female ratio in Admissions or HR departments? If these key entry points are dominated by one gender, then the institution cannot help but become dominated by gynocentrism. Hence why everything is predicated upon how it meshes with their aggregated biases and preferences. I can give concrete examples if you need them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 05:54 AM
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I would argue that women’s generalizations are institutionally supported.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 05:29 AM
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1st - An individual woman may be wonderful, but all women include the negative patterns, not just the ones we are allowed to discuss. Women absolutely are driven by instinct, that "more emotional" trend we have observed is tied to their evolutionary psychology (which is what the RP is ACTUALLY predicated upon). How women act within a relationship is not just predicated upon what they think, its also acted upon by external forces, be it biology or social conditioning. 2nd - if a man has multiple …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 05:00 AM
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How about a female matchmaker since you don't respect male self reporting? https://youtu.be/SfQDhqUbvLY?si=mY3HqZzLIQ2RL4hq
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:36 AM
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Did you already forget we were debating the defensibility of the delusional sexual standards of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:30 AM
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Say it with me, "Per Capita." Total Share: Men contribute approximately 76% of all federal income taxes. Non-Joint Returns (Singles): Men contribute 58% of total taxes paid by single filers. Joint Returns: On married filing jointly returns, men’s income accounts for roughly 82% of the tax liability. Average Tax Rates (Single Filers): Unmarried men pay an average federal income tax rate of 10.9%, while unmarried women pay 6.3%. https://ideas.repec.org/a/kap/itaxpf/v31y2024i3d10.1007_s10797-024-09…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:28 AM
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Because unlike the gender pay gap, the gender death gap is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:19 AM
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Except that most women's dating standards are predicated upon "values" that involve taking money out of my wallet. Don't blame the messenger, I am not the one who put politics filters on all those dating profiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:18 AM
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There is generational divergence here. They literally had an entire middle school class get pregnant near me. (One guy, same class, really gross). Promiscuity has gone way up. Do a cohort breakdown of the number of sexual partners between generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:15 AM
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Some men pay more in taxes than they reap in benefits, as do some women. Oh no you don't. Do a Per Capita comparison, it's not even close. Many Americans of both genders reap more in benefits than they pay in taxes. This should disqualify them from voting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:10 AM
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BTW, this is what delusional standards look like: https://youtu.be/T3XkgbOFyJU?si=Kk2XzYt0-XdkpIMw
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:09 AM
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With tax dollars. Duh. Planned Parenthood was Federally subsidized and ran a clinic outside one of Kamala Harris' conventions. I'll take my reparations check now please.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:06 AM
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Who lives long enough to collect on Social Security, men or women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:05 AM
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Majority of welfare recipients were women. All those Federal grants and federal procurement carve outs for women owned businesses at the federal and state level. Hard to take that whining about lack of financially viable mates seriously when you're the beneficiary of discriminatory hiring and admissions practices as well as noncompetitive bidding for tax money taken out of my pocket.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:01 AM
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Men pay more into taxes than they take out of it. With women it's the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:57 AM
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Nobody wants involuntary dating. At least I don't. To be honest, I think the issue is more with social media than with women. I think it's a vector for spreading social contagions and mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:55 AM
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Pay them for their labour. That's how u get people to do things they don't want to do, 100 k per birth, 50 k per year of childrearing. It has to be married or no deal. The last thing we need are more single mothers running around. I think that married people not being taxed until they make $100,000.00 would be a great incentive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:52 AM
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You likely do not extend the same resentment towards people who benefit from your taxes without societal contributions who aren't "single mothers" or whatever other female boogeyman man you like to blame. If you pay in you can take out, that's my rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:50 AM
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Then I contend that men should be afforded more grace overall and that the affirmative discrimination programs in hiring and admissions need to be adjusted to help men achieve the social mobility needed to have a chance at social mobility and family formation if they want it. Failing that, remove it entirely and just have merit based admissions and hiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:48 AM
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To be fair, no probable cause is not the same as saying false accusation. So I disagree with the tweet on that. It often just means insufficient data needed to prosecute. However assuming the the 12% of cases admitted false, how often would you say that is prosecuted? Can you think of one time where a false rape accusation was criminally prosecuted? https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/dec/29/rolling-stone-rape-story-uva-five-years https://abc11.com/post/crystal-mangum-admits-during-podcast-…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:41 AM
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Expecting women to tolerate terrible sex is extremely selfish. Why are you pre-supposing the sex is terrible? Talk about implicit bias....
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:27 AM
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I'll be honest, it's less of a social stigma for me than an observed positive correlation. The most common argument is that multiple partners implies some kind of Oxytocin habituation in the brain. (Although this is disputed). The most obvious data is the National Survey of Family Growth (NSFG) collected in 2002, 2006-2010, and 2011-2013 which shows that women with 10 or more partners are more likely to divorce. https://ifstudies.org/blog/counterintuitive-trends-in-the-link-between-premarital-se…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:25 AM
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Do you have the necessary expertise or evidence to dispute it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:03 AM
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Counter evidence, since you invoked "evolutionary benefits" https://youtu.be/SO1WccH2_YM?si=db7hE7ALspxgE0Ub
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:02 AM
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According to the FBI 2023 Uniform Crime Report, 97% of rape accusations are found to be false. When was the last time you heard of a woman being held criminally liable for false rape accusations? This is why delusional standards matter, they facilitate an air of entitlement and malfeasant behavior. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 09:59 AM
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img Racial bias in sentencing has been routinely asserted by reviewing judicial outcomes. Without looking, do you honestly believe that women are held to the same legal standards as men? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox29.com/news/california-woman-who-got-high-and-stabbed-boyfriend-108-times-will-not-go-to-prison.amp
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 09:52 AM
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A social contract that is no longer enforced both ways, becomes oppressive and should be broken. Make "independent" women pay their own way. No more tax subsidies, no more bail outs, or gendered affirmative discrimination. I asked my questions first. Again, what are women held accountable for in our society? What social duties are you penalized for if you don't do them? If women are so universally oppressed, then it should be an easy question to answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 09:47 AM
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Well congrats, because of that view a lot of women dont give a shit about men and theyre doing just fine. Its the men who are lagging. Lion's share of consumer debt and pharmaceutical use suggests otherwise. If your standards prevent you from fully participating in society I would argue that they are bad for your health and should be discouraged on the societal level.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 09:41 AM
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Well “accountability” works automatically in the case of dating. If your standards are too high, you will stay single. Except that they eventually will be taking advantage of social entitlement programs without contributing the necessary human capital to give back.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 09:38 AM
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I do agree that they shouldn’t somehow punish or actively hurt men when they don’t meet these standards. The concern is that these resentful women get into positions of power and then discriminate against young men in administration, hiring, and education. I run into them all the time, and they are genuinely malicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 09:36 AM
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Its at my expense if I am expected to subsidize the bad consequences of their reproductive decisions
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 09:34 AM
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Decanter women. Women aren't malt whiskey I think you're just bitter women stopped lowering themselves to dating mediocre men and are actually doing no worse than men for it. People with delusional standards are by definition, mentally incompetent. Mentally incompetent people are regularly disenfranchised under the law. Or as an alternative: We could do it humanely & make it a simple choice for both genders, either register for selective service or be married with kids. (Divorce voids the vote, …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 09:23 AM
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You've had Feminism and the vote for how long? If you still can't alter the social contract or affect change in any meaningful way, then it has failed and delusional women should no longer have the vote. People are pre-empted from voting for mental incompetence all the time. Delusional women should fall under this legal category. Removing the burden of suffrage from such oppressed creatures is the only ethical thing to do. Of course, if women are our moral equals and want to participate to the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 09:12 AM
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Once again, another "if women would just lower their standards..." post. Some women have decided they rather be alone. That's their choice. If they are miserable, so be it. I don't want any of my tax dollars going towards people who are a net negative on society. I don't want to pay for their delusional reproductive decisions, be it abortions, birth control, or if they are voluntarily single mothers. I shouldn't be asked to subsidize conduct predicated upon discriminating against people like me.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 09:03 AM
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But frankly, I rarely see women complain that they deserve a 6,6,6. It's hard to see things with your eyes closed. Here, let me provide some evidence: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2uZhEhKQPWaE4sNGqOwU0zhvYc49KL64&si=v2LV6Nm8c69qffRB
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 08:52 AM
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I don't want to be taxed to pay for women's delusional mate selection critera when they inevitably fail and become a single mother. I don't want to subsidize their abortions that are done to spite the father or pay for homeless shelters that men are barred from entering. If women use their delusional standards to castigate and oppress men as a whole, that is unethical and should not be allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 08:48 AM
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Why should I give a shit about women at all if there is no expectation of mutualism or reciprocity? If we are equal, then we are equally accountable for our reproductive decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 08:43 AM
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What are women accountable for? You still haven't answered. What duties do women have that they would go to jail for failure to perform?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 08:38 AM
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I asked you to clearly write out the terms of the contract. Then we can trace/find evidence of who consented to what and when. "a model or theory used to explain the legitimacy of political authority and moral rules, deriving them from the hypothetical, rational consent of free and equal individuals. It argues that social arrangements are justified only if everyone would agree to them in an initial "state of nature" or "original position". " https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/contractarianism-co…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 08:35 AM
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I don't care about dating, I care about men being castigated as a whole for not meeting delusional standards. I am being forced to pay for voluntarily single mothers all the time. You're not independent if I am footing the bill directly or indirectly through taxes. Women's financial independence was predicated upon running up the national consumer debt. Then factor in the scholarships for useless degrees, student loan debt, driving up insurance premiums with their government subsidized medical c…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 08:05 AM
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Castigating men as a whole for not meeting delusional metrics is unethical and should not be allowed. Having standards so delusional that you fail to reproduce is not a flex, it means you are a cultural and evolutionary dead end. Speed running the mouse utopia experiment is not good for society. Also, if your bad decisions are hurting other people, then you need to grow the **** up. That's what they tell men when they are delusional. Time for reciprocal accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 07:24 AM
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Allowing any demographic to act in bad faith at the expense of another is bad for society. I am not looking to make anyone do anything. However, I believe that people should be held accountable for the choices they make, because that's the standard I have been held to. If a man was acting delusional and I cared about him, I would try to let him know. If women want to have standards out of sync with material reality, they shouldn't be allowed to castigate men as a whole for not meeting their delu…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 07:18 AM
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So are women accountable for anything in our culture? Every single institution is catering to them and they are given preferential treatment in work and school. A woman could drop off her baby at the fire house and not go to jail, a man would be charged with a crime for doing the same thing. If everything is still men's fault, if the social contract is still solely authored by men (which it wasn't, contracts are predicated upon two consenting parties), then Feminism has failed completely and wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 07:08 AM
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It is not common for women to enter relationships with "place holder ” men sometimes women definitely can lead men on a bit. It absolutely is common, who remarries more after divorce? Men or women? As to female independence, a lot of it is being done on her ex's dime or is subsidized by the government in some way. HR departments arguably came into existence to hit gender quotas. The richest women in the world came from divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 07:01 AM
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Unlike women they can and do freely make their own choices and also suffer their own consequences. Women are bailed out from the consequences of their actions all the time. Hear something you don't like? Block it and report the guy for hate speech. Forget birth control pill? Blame the guy and make him pay for the kid. Don't want to keep the kid? Drop it off at a firehouse without telling the father. Get high and murder your boyfriend and your dog? Get probation and community service with no jail…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 06:37 AM
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Therefore anyone who is red pill or red pill adjacent is delusional. The sanity of an action can be discerned by whether the intent and conduct can yield the desired outcome. If someone keeps doubling down over and over again, despite it not working...that could be defined as insanity. https://youtu.be/rKMMCPeiQoc?si=EHIrSIB52SZx6G6z Vas is actually more reasonable than some of the "standards" you're defending. Remember there are women out here slapping men in the face and expecting their boyfri…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 06:25 AM
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Your framework implicitly presupposes that everyone should be willing to settle. Society enforces standards on men all the time, what metric are women being held to?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 06:20 AM
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A demand is hostile, a standard is a metric for comparison, a preference is a tentative position.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 06:19 AM
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But this is a debate sub...so... Also "I am married" doesn't mean anything, you could be estranged for all we know. What is your marriage actually predicated on, what makes it worth having for the man?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 06:18 AM
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My message to the men here is simple: have some dignity. Do not let sex, dating, or women’s approval define your worth. And stop arguing with people who seem more interested in humiliating you than understanding you. I actually agree with this. Personally I like subs like this because it makes me better at debating my ideological opponents. Sure it isn't very pleasant in the moment, I find the lion's share interacting in bad faith, and a lot of the "moderation" seems to degenerate into sadistic …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 06:15 AM
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What exactly is… the point of all this? Social contracts, cultural continuity, the common good? Nobody can force anyone to date someone they don’t want to date But apparently a man can be forced to pay for his ex to live with another man in your house? My main issue is when when women have "standards" irrespective of material circumstances and then castigate men for not meeting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 06:08 AM
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What is a circle-jerk in this context?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 06:04 AM
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Why should I adhere to a position predicated upon someone else's feelings? Men are tacitly expected to make personal sacrifices for the common good. Why not women? What good is a social contract only enforced one way?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 06:03 AM
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It's a debate sub. If you disagree, debate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 05:59 AM
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Are you taking about my marriage or general you again? I am trying to understand your value system, to understand what your idea of marriage is actually predicated upon. "Committed relationships" are always going to to favor women, but there are fundamental misapprehensions about the role the man is playing and I think we have a cultural blindspot when it comes to the material conditions needed to facilitate a stable relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 05:32 AM
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Also this doesn't speak to marital stability. Something that falls apart in 5 to 10 years because she's not "happy" doesn't ring true to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 05:25 AM
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Okay, so I dug into it...have been trying to nail down where I got the figure from. Part of the problem is that these are projections. (Its like trying to nail down the weather forecast). It doesn't appear to be 60% but (4) suggested that only 58%of my 1990s cohort would be married by 38. (This was formulated jn October 2020, and he predicted it might get worse). I do think that people are not paying attention to my cohort 1990s. Gen Z is on a similar track, and I do think that countries like So…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 05:21 AM
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Committed to what exactly? An ephemeral feeling of happiness? A certain level of material wealth? What is your marriage predicated upon? What makes you think it will last? The worst marriages I have seen treat the man like an accessory or a disposable resource that facilitates her "lifestyle" Are you going to walk away if the bottom falls out and he can't "check off your list?" Those aren't real marriages to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 04:53 AM
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I have never asked for sex. The second intimacy becomes transactional, I am out. Leave the "choreplay" for the next guy's "shift."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 03:35 AM
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Even if I accepted your framing or premise, (I don't) what ARE women responsible for in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 03:34 AM
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We have two different competing sexual strategies as human beings. The more basal strategy is the bonobo high promiscuity strategy predicated upon breeding with as many females as possible. The more derived strategy of being more monogamous and pair bonding likely came from the longer adolescence of human offspring. This extended adolescence required more input from the father to ensure his genes passed on. Both drives affect how men try to reproduce and shape behavior into adulthood. A lot of h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 03:26 AM
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I don’t consider myself picky but many men still called me that anyway, just because I refuse to “give in”/refuse to “compromise” with a man that might have different views. If these standards make me picky or shallow then so be it I guess I actually know guys that don't do sex before marriage if that's what you're alluding to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 03:13 AM
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Not my generation. 60% are not. Edit: I misspoke, only 58% were projected to be married by 38. It would have been more accurate to say 40%. However these are projections, and the idea of marrying a "high-standards" woman pushed to the edge of her fertility window is not an attractive proposition for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 03:12 AM
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That's nice, I wasn't talking about you specifically. My point stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 03:11 AM
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I call that self brainwashing/heart-washing since the heart cant really tell imaginary from real (emotionally) so u can just keep imagining something to brainwash yourself. It’s a great tool.(it’s part of how anxiety and depression work -repeated imaginary visions) I would have handled it better if I had stayed aloof. She didn't respect me fully. The more stable relationships have the women more invested than the guy. You can almost relax for a moment if she's fully committed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 03:01 AM
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She was more invested before I fully committed. it seems counterintuitive, but with many women, a man investing too soon lowers attraction. It's why I think dead bedrooms become so common after marriage. Familiarity breeds contempt.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 02:57 AM
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That's nice. My point remains. I am not pointing out outliers I am identifying patterns across groups. Men in my grandparents generation had no problem enforcing boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 02:52 AM
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I am asking because I have never seen women handle being alone well. I simply do not believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 02:51 AM
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"classification of things or concepts, as well as to the principles underlying such a classification, categorization is based on discrete sets, different from meronymy which is dealing with the classification of parts of a whole" When you're done laughing, maybe you can look up the definition of "debate" as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 02:46 AM
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Women don't seem to realize this, but arguing against bodycount is like trying to emotionally manipulate gravity. The negative perception of bodycount isn't actually rooted in emotions for a man, it's positively correlated with lowered pair bonding.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:51 AM
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From an evolutionary perspective, being a cuckhold is a worst case scenario, thus the importance placed upon virginity. It is an oversimplification to reduce it to an archaic practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:47 AM
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It's not an irrational fear. Men and women pairbond differently. A high bodycount woman may "feel" fully in love with her current partner, but her perceptions and behaviors are ultimately informed by her experiences and traumas with her former partners. Most men have had the experience of trying to triage the emotional trauma that came from her investing in another man. This emotional residue never fully goes away.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:43 AM
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Do you also think ex sex workers can't be good loyal partners I have had women try to argue this to the death with me, but there is a positive correlation between high bodycount and lowered pair bonding. Its kind of like what drug addicts experience neurologically, the first high is the best, the positive sensations become shorter and shorter as you do it more and more. Also realistically, if you've been with multiple people, don't you always essentially see them as replaceable on some level?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:39 AM
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"Real men don't duck" Everything breaks down into assets and liabilities. Too many liabilities mean that its a bad investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:30 AM
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This one feels...really gross. If she's sleeping with other men, its no longer a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:28 AM
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you know that’s not how words work, right? Its actually exactly how words work, the real question is whether his taxonomy actually works or not. The biggest source of exasperation with modern women is the inability to distinguish between sexual interest and genuine interest, and then to extrapolate Chad 's recreational behaviors to men as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:22 AM
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If I have high standards and still managed to meet my partner, doesn’t that mean my standards are actually pretty realistic and achievable? You can try to breed a thoroughbred or you can hold onto certain core traits when you go looking for your dog. Also, just because he's your choice doesn't mean he sees you as anything more than an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:18 AM
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It’s all great in theory, but most women are already in relationships. Situationships aren't relationships which was his point. Also if she is constantly curating options I would dispute whether she is ever fully "with" anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:15 AM
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I don't know about you, but I have a diminishing returns thing when it comes to attraction. I don't see halos because my subconscious is watching their behavior. You become less reactive as you get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:11 AM
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I don't know if I would call it an ick as much as becoming sober? It was a negative pavlovian response (she basically snuck in another guy into my "spot" when I was sick.) I just kept seeing her with him in my head until I was conditioned out of caring about her. When it was working, I still saw her younger self when I looked at her, my brain kind of had a built in "filter." 10 years of honeymoon phase for me. In retrospect it was probably unhealthy, I didn't know about the behavioral changes do…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:09 AM
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With regards to IQ at least we seem to have more clustered at the top and bottom than you. Not sure if attractiveness should be charted the same way now that I think about it (female attraction seems to be multivariate).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:57 AM
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I believe you. We both fall on our own bell curves. The "exasperation" is usually reserved for the "mids" who fall in the middle. Because of "hoeflation" (ignore the name): https://youtu.be/gKtZ5dEbu6c?si=EOD0O9VhGweLMwyi
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:55 AM
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My ex seemed more attractive the longer I was with her. I stopped seeing her imperfections as imperfections. It was literally like she had a "halo"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:24 AM
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Also even if I wasn’t ugly the overall features of my race/ethnicity aren’t really liked at all in my region anyway so I could be an objective 10/10 and I’d still be considered an uggo by most guys around me so Have you considered pulling a "passport bro?" It doesn't necessarily mean crossing into different countries, it might mean moving into a different time zone. The whole Midwest 10 vs New York 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:22 AM
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Then have your standards risen as your relationship iterations have increased? In redpill circles, there is an observed trend in later 20s/early 30s women where they get more restless. (There might be a positive correlation with career changes). I dated my ex from about 19 to 29, but she had other relationships before me. After her rebound/monkey branch failed, she seemed to get more picky. She wanted an aggregated ideal. Related: Steve Harvey List Girl https://youtu.be/3QspJ7TS5RM?si=wHzT2Rj0Pg…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:18 AM
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I will add that there is a relationship "halo" affect when men are able to pairbond successfully. This is harder to pull off when trust is broken. (Unfortunately, I haven't seen the same behavior exhibited in women).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:11 AM
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This was not the case in my grandparents' generation. It is emblematic of a cultural decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:09 AM
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Which means the guys complaining are selfish assholes who want women to fuck them at women's expense. No. It means that the way we validate each other is different in a healthy relationship. Generally speaking, Women need more emotional validation and Men need more physical validation. Inverse ratios. "I know he loves me because he does x" Vs "I know she loves me because she lets me do x."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:07 AM
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That doesn't work when no one is planning to make a child Sexual attraction is an atavistic drive, there isn't higher order thinking involved. Think about what made you want to date certain men, you wanted to be with someone that "felt" right, and that isn't logical, it's a reproductive drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:04 AM
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It genuinely doesn't work like that. My ex wasn't perfect, but she wasn't ugly either. She genuinely became more attractive to me over time. I guess you could call it a relationship "halo" effect? It wasn't until after the relationship was over that I became less affected by her appearance. (I am talking about once sufficient time had passed and there was minimal emotional distortion). A man's attraction to a "relationship" woman is proportional to the time and degree of investment. This is sepa…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:01 AM
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The vast majority of men are not saying "I'll take any woman as long as she is not fat". That is a guy truly desperate for anyone. Unrepresentative sample size. Can you dig into the age, demographics, and locality of the types of men you are describing?.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:55 PM
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It's memeification, they aren't literally describing hoes, but selection dysfunction. Algorithmically distorted hypergamy yields suboptimal mate selection outcomes, which is used to rationalize bashing men as a whole. Personal SMV is distorted because alolgorithmic engagement is conflated with genuine interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:53 PM
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Women dont care for casual sex. This depends on the man in my experience. I have had women initiate casual sex in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:48 PM
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Which men are we talking about per capita? Clustering around some men who are picky and then disengenuously attributing said pickiness to the group as a whole is a bad faith characterization.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:46 PM
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Those aren't the men bitching about women wanting Chad and the 80/20. The "bitching" is over perceptual distortions and bad faith attibutions to men as a demographic. Then he's below average Again, algorithmically inflated sample sizes distort modern women's self perception of smv and gaslights them into the 80-20 rule situation. Hoemath "hoeflation": https://youtu.be/gKtZ5dEbu6c?si=EOD0O9VhGweLMwyi There is an unqualified conflation between men seeking sexual access versus men seeking relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:42 PM
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Their penis will prefer a mid girl who fucks them now over Sofia Vergara vetting them for 3 months AND MIGHT fuck them. Or, Sexual access is being weighed against the perceived "flight risk" of higher tier women when it comes to relationship formation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:36 PM
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Ok then I hope your future wife always exclusively fantasizes about men that look completely different from you, This behavior you've described could mean multiple things. She could be be perceived as too high maintenance, he could have a dopamine disorder/addiction, et cetera. Chronic gratification is often linked to deep-seated mental health issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:34 PM
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Exactly, and yet they act altruistic as if they’re so open and kind to all types of women. Men have a wider mid range on the bell curve of what they deem as palatable, that isn't the same as being open to all types of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:31 PM
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Men date who they can, not who they want. Define "date." Sexual access or relationship. I think a lot of them are with women they don’t truly desire Define "desire." Sexual access or relationship? which is why I feel like women have no choice but to be selective. Women are selective when the top tier men had passed them over (or the women perceive him to be too much work).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:29 PM
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Their penis will prefer a mid girl who fucks them now over Sofia Vergara vetting them for 3 months AND MIGHT fuck them. What cohort of men are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:26 PM
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Men yell all day long “We’re fine with a mid girl!”, but even that wording there is very telling Unrepresentative sample.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:25 PM
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Fuck ugly women. Sexual access doesn't negate the associated liabilities of relationship formation. If a woman has sub prime sexual value then a man is less likely to tolerate her in terms of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:23 PM
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For casual sex, that's dumb. In America, like 20 to 30% of women are actually interested in casual sex, so she can afford to expect hotter men because hotter men are lowering their standards to fuck her. Which cohort are you referring to? Early 20s, Late 20s; Early 30s, or Late 30s?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:21 PM
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The appetite for physical validation is unreasonable, the method of securing sexual access and vetting for relationships requires a certain level of second order thinking to pull it off successfully. Relationship vetting is taught culturally and from the father. If the father is henpecked, disengaged, or absent, this can lead to naive men in predatory relationships like Akash.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:20 PM
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Because men remarry more than women Per Capita, vs raw numbers?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:15 PM
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There are cultural variances here, demographically, geographically, culturally amongst different cohorts over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:15 PM
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I find it so fascinating this sub refuses to accept that casual sex really sucks for women. Because we are wired to value different things in different proportions. This isn't purely scientific, but women seem to need something like 25% physical validation to 75% emotional validation versus men who seemingly need inverse proportions. Of course this has changed for me as I have gotten older, and I suspect its the same for many other men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:13 PM
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Ie, men get with their "looksmatch" but then complain if she lowers her standards and gets with her looksmatch and settles in terms of physical attraction Sexual access is a separate equation than relationship compatibility. "Settling" makes her a "flight risk."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:10 PM
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there is a lot of context you are leaving out of the equation. Do you mean rejected for sex or rejected for relationships? Do you have tattoos or an above average number of piercings? (Not to judge, just gathering data). Are you considered conventionally attractive (and in what cultural context? California vs Midwest vs New York?).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:06 PM
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Or its an epistemic problem. You don't perceive the men below you because you don't see them as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:04 PM
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It's a reproductive behavior. Sexual access is a necessary but not sufficient condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 10:58 PM
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Sex seems disproportionately valued because men are hormonally driven to fulfill their reproductive role. This takes a backseat as men age.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 10:57 PM
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How did that work out for them? Did they form stable family units?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 10:55 PM
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Women in general are more comfortable being alone than men. Depends on the cohort you are talking about. Don't forget, women have specific needs when it comes to emotional validation too. Sure, the sorority of premenopausal women can do a lot, but women will still feel FOMO whether they publicly admit it or not. This can metastasize into a general malaise against all men under certain conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 10:54 PM
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Sexual release isn't the same kind of equation as family formation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 10:50 PM
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Desperate for what though? Physical validation is important sure, but this is a short-term iterative need, more like an appetite. But given the unique liabilities associated with making a family, a secondary period of vetting usually occurs later on (provided that the man is not naive).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 10:49 PM
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Men can often go into relationships viewing the women as a placeholder from the start Can you please expound on this? It's not something I experienced personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 10:46 PM
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I am sorry to hear that, do you think that there are external variables at play? Do you see your peers having similar issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 10:44 PM
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Have you found that the requirements for a viable partner have gone up with each subsequent relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 10:43 PM
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can't get one With the one she wants, yes. It's a problem we are currently seeing with the Millennial cohort of women. (Although this isn't entirely their fault, the professional track of the 90s and 2000s naturally ate up too much of their fertility window).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 10:42 PM
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Bonobos vs the ancestors of modern humans. Men have two different reproductive strategies evolutionarily speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 10:39 PM
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Recreational use is not the same as genuine interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 10:35 PM
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I think most modern women are being algorithmically gaslit to conflate "recreational" sexual interest with "serious" interest. The currency of Male validation is inflated through algorithmic reach thereby devaluing the associated value attributed to each interaction. It's algorithmically curated simping. Multiple pair bindings yield an aggregated ideal man, predicated upon a woman’s perception of past relationships. (Cue that list girl meme). You get dopamine hits from this artifical veneer of e…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 10:33 PM
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I think you are conflating two different things. Following evolutionary psychology, Men tend to have two different mating strategies, long term vs short term. This comes from the need to propagate sexually with as many partners as possible (as seen with bonobos) versus pseudo monogamous (because human children have more extensive rearing requirements). You are correct that there is an initial sexual access component initially but this gives way to a secondary relationship vetting stage over time…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 10:08 PM
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