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3	TRP humanizes women, even though detractors (like TBP) often criticize TRP for dehumanizing women. It makes little sense Going from pedestalizing to villanizing is not humanizing. It's just replacing the driving emotion, but all the key components and patterns of perception about women are retained. Nuance, variation, context is still dissmissed as irrelevant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/16 08:10 AM
6	TRP humanizes women, even though detractors (like TBP) often criticize TRP for dehumanizing women. It makes little sense Oh please. TRP doesn't say "women CAN fail, be manipulative, be unhappy..etc" That implies the possibility of the opposite, and the possibility of variation. TRP distinctly states that all women are those things WITHOUT the possibility of the opposite, or if the opposite exists, it's negligible. That's not humanizing. That's literally the same as pedestalizing someone, except now you're villanizing them instead.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/16 08:08 AM
10	TRP humanizes women, even though detractors (like TBP) often criticize TRP for dehumanizing women. It makes little sense If you continue reading their post you'd see it goes way past that. There's normal human flaws, and then there's what TRP thinks of women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/16 08:02 AM
2	Q4All: What is your opinion on open relationships? What about people who actively agree on sleeping outside of marriage? I mean, I'm not for it either, but a lot of these arrangements are deliberate. And how would you separate cheaters (those doing it against their partners wishes) vs people who agreed on it? A cheater can just say the latter, and the latter doesn't deserve to be punished if their partner agreed to it. I think this is something too deeply personal for us to have laws regarding it. This is something that should be determined with…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/16 05:29 PM
2	Q4All: What is your opinion on open relationships? I would not date someone who was non-exclusive. I am strictly monogamous and not even remotely interested in anything otherwise. I do however think it works for some people so more power to them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/16 05:24 PM
2	If women do have it better than men, why is it so? hich is exactly why men are almost always considered the abuser in domestic violence cases. Men are presumed to be the abuser in DV cases because violent crimes are committed primarily by men, and because men are more prone to anger management disorders and antisocial personality disorders. Not excusing it, but that is primarily the reason why the default is that the man started the violence. Because men are by default the more violent gender.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/16 04:01 AM
1	If women do have it better than men, why is it so? Yes it does. Then you don't understand what reproductively valuable means. Women are reproductively valuable because their eggs and uteruses are limited resources for the perpetuation of the species. Male children and pets have nothing to do with the propagation of our species. Male children aren't sexually capable, and we can't reproduce with animals. I just flat out disagree with everything you wrote. Gay men are associated with class and modernness. Gay women are associated with damage. Gay m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/16 03:57 AM
2	From your experience: Are the majority of single men and women happy with their dating life or not? Mid 20's, it's about half and half. The half that aren't actively engaged in the dating scene (but would take a date occasionally) are pretty content. They fill their time with friends, hobbies, etc. The half that are engaged in the dating scene seem to be progressively getting bitter. My belief is that this is because the dating scene absolutely sucks at the moment. TRP does a good job of covering why it sucks or men, but despite their claims, it's not much better for women. A lot of single men…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/16 04:53 PM
4	Ladies, what is a "good" man? That's...not the same thing at all. There's a difference between being a loser and simply having a relationship preference. The latter can still be a desirable man, and as such, probably has multiple choices of whom to date. So the above poster is correct, that person, now that they have options, should prioritize compatibility for long term relationships.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/16 04:38 PM
4	CMV: The Red Pill prejudice against women because you seem to think that red pillers just feel entitled. Because they are. You can't give me an unattractive, otherwise underwhelming man lamenting why women aren't jumping on his dick and tell me that's not entitlement. And I get that RP preaches self-improvement, blah blah, but not really. Aside from going to the gym, what concrete and specific self-improvement advice does TRP give? How do you improve a bruised ego? How do you let go of resentment? These things are given bandaids in the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/16 05:12 PM
7	CMV: The Red Pill prejudice against women This really isn't a response to what I said. Everyone knows you can fake your way through a lot of this, especially with an inexperienced woman. So you can wind up with a guy who can't delay gratification with a woman of that caliber. Yes you do need to provide comfort, but again, that has little to do with what I am saying. I am not asking you for dating advice, I'm saying even your ideal description of a woman is not really praised in RP rhetoric.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/16 04:41 PM
11	CMV: The Red Pill prejudice against women A traditional girl with solid values, low n-count, takes care of her looks, can delay gratification, pleasant company, submissive, that type of girl is praised. Is she though? That kind of woman could actually be a better person than her partner (especially given pleasant company and the ability to delay gratification as many people requiring such a woman have not mastered that themselves), and still be called AWALT the single moment where she expresses dissatisfaction no matter how justified. T…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/16 04:28 PM
3	CMV: Rape Victims are Damaged and Thus Poor Prospects for a Relationship Not at all, men do not get emotionally damaged nearly as easily as women do. Based on what? This isn't one of those given differences between the sexes thing. Actually, this is a context in which both genders tend to get damaged pretty severely. One's love life is a significant aspect of their existence. Men and women do display this damage differently, men usually through anger and women through depression, but the damage itself, the change in the ability to function independently and in a rela…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/16 05:16 PM
2	CMV: Rape Victims are Damaged and Thus Poor Prospects for a Relationship One is more extreme than the other, same logic and end result though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/16 04:44 PM
4	CMV: Rape Victims are Damaged and Thus Poor Prospects for a Relationship I beg to differ. I've seen countless advice given to men to not date women with mental or emotional disorders, women who are excessively picky/prissy, women who are trainwrecks, etc. It's common sense. Don't date people who have hangups preventing them from being functional people. Why? It will be a waste of your investment. The problem usually arises with false equivalencies and jumps to conclusions. Example, a woman with a higher than average n-count is immediately deemed as damaged, when she …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/16 04:43 PM
4	CMV: Rape Victims are Damaged and Thus Poor Prospects for a Relationship The thousands of RP-ers who can't understand why Mary never wanted to go out with them or why Jill always said no to a date.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/16 04:38 PM
6	Q4All: When you leave the house or are coming home late, do you tell your spouse? When I said this, I got a number of responses saying that I keep men on a short leash, am entitled , and this is way too much to ask for. You're talking to a bunch of 20 year old resentful Redditors who can't get a relationship.Take what they say with a grain of salt. To answer your question, yes I would expect my SO to tell me where they are going, short summary of what/with whom and I would do the same. It's almost common courtesy so you know where they're at and don't have to worry. This is j…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/16 05:12 AM
2	Did you Grow up Believing Looks Don't Matter? No and anyone who says they did is full of shit, and deliberately buried their head in the sand. Every kids movie, Disney or otherwise, instilled a pretty clear picture that looks matter for both genders. The pretty princess never chose the ugly sidekick. And the handsome prince never courted the uglier sister.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/16 05:03 AM
13	CMV: Rape Victims are Damaged and Thus Poor Prospects for a Relationship I'd be fine with your logic, as long as it's applied evenly and both ways. So by your logic, the vast majority of RP men are damaged and bad prospects for relationships. Most are hung up on either not being wanted/overly rejected or having been in bad and toxic relationship problems.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/16 05:01 AM
3	CMV: Emotional affairs are not as big of a deal as physical affairs Both types of indiscretion show they don't care very much for trust in the relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/16 03:01 PM
3	Q4BP: Why some prison inmates have girlfriends/wives? You simply asked why do some prison inmates have girlfriends and wives. I gave you several scenarios, one of which is a woman may not have known about his criminal history until after emotional attachment. The video shows a correctional officer saying lots of women meet inmates while they are in prison via being a penpal Then obviously my second point would not apply here. See point 3 and point 4. They adequately provide an explanation for this specific scenario.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/16 12:31 AM
3	Q4BP: Why some prison inmates have girlfriends/wives? Because he may not have been in jail when they started dating? Did that seriously not cross your mind?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/16 09:13 PM
4	Q4BP: Why some prison inmates have girlfriends/wives? Most women don't date or wouldn't date men who are in jail or have recently been. Further, some women would consider any jail history a complete deal breaker. Why do some women date men in jail? Not all men in jail are bad men. In your comments you equate jailed men as aggressive misogynistic assholes. Not all of them are. Some are even decent men who made bad choices, or committed crimes that were fairly justified and understandable. not all men are forthcoming with their criminal tendencies an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/16 07:46 PM
2	[Q4BP] How long should a man wait to ask for sex again after being turned down? Girls quite often feign disinterest I'm going to let you in on a little secret - this is actually very rare. This is one of those things men tell themselves. The reality most of the time is that she wasn't interested and during the course of the evening you changed her mind. She "feigned" nothing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/16 06:25 AM
3	Discussion: How Incels Can Improve Nah, this overlooks an important difference and is just about as helpful as saying be yourself or telling a schitzophrenic to stop being crazy. Works for the average person, doesn't work for people with mental handicaps.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/09/16 08:45 PM
4	Discussion: How Incels Can Improve How do you get the motivation to bother trying when the "everything is pointless and futile" mentality is so deeply ingrained that you can't even fathom a reality where lifting would help? Because that's the problem with incels. That's why they're incel as opposed to an average guy with self esteem issues.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/09/16 07:46 PM
4	CMV: Many "incels" who post here would benefit immensely from therapy No, I'm saying the average incel's problem is not a belief, but severe ingrained programming of hopelessness, depression and inaction that immobilize them. There's such a thing as a defeatist mentality, now imagine that was so extreme that it could be a valid mental disorder. Most incels are not horribly disfigured or deformed. My proof of that is the incels I know, the times incels online share their photos, and the rarity of disorders that are so disfiguring that that they leave one doomed to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/09/16 07:36 PM
7	CMV: Many "incels" who post here would benefit immensely from therapy So, how exactly do you envision therapy helping someone who is incel? If we're talking about the typical incel, start by deprogramming the belief systems that lead them to their pit of depression or hopelessness, because those feelings completely immobilize them and make any other therapy useless. Unfortunately this is where you will also meet the most resistance, because this programming is so deeply ingrained that incels can't see it anything other than reality and any attempt to deprogram it …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/09/16 03:59 PM
2	CMV: Many "incels" who post here would benefit immensely from therapy No one is whining about patriarchy. You're projecting resentment over something else onto something that doesn't fall under that umbrella. You should learn to separate your feelings and only combine them when it's appropriate. No one spams this forum as much as incels do, and I've seen both BP and RP people say they want less of them. It's simply a difference of opinion in what constitutes a good subreddit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/09/16 03:44 PM
2	CMV: Many "incels" who post here would benefit immensely from therapy Depends on which kind of incel we're talking about. An incel who is willing to believe some factors are within his control will hugely benefit from therapy, as he will be sitting in the therapists' room actually listening and willing to concede the deeply ingrained beliefs that have led him to become an incel in the first place, even if it's merely acknowledging that a therapist has a good point. Therapy only works if the person doing it is willing to change and take it seriously. Much like reha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/09/16 03:41 PM
0	CMV: Many "incels" who post here would benefit immensely from therapy That's because many incels are thirsty for sympathy and they go to their therapist looking for sympathy and validation, not actual help. constantly remind them that sex is not a requirement for living the way food/shelter/water is. This may not be what they want to hear, but this is what they need to hear. Both because it allows you to find fulfillment in other ways, but also because it decreases desperation so that you actually increase your chances of success. But incels, like most people, onl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/09/16 03:37 PM
9	CMV: Many "incels" who post here would benefit immensely from therapy Then why do so many incels still remain the same after years of therapy? Because therapy isn't a fix all. Some deeply-imbedded train of thoughts and brain pathways cannot be undone, with any therapy. Some defunctional areas of the brain can only be improved, never fixed, with therapy. And most importantly, many incels are stuck in such a state of hopelessness that they don't really take therapy seriously. Therapy only works if the person wants to get better. A person who sits there while the the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/09/16 03:33 PM
9	CMV: Many "incels" who post here would benefit immensely from therapy Therapists usually deal with patients with comorbid issues.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/09/16 02:38 PM
1	When is a man in his prime? 28-32	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/09/16 07:57 AM
1	Something needs to change about these unrealistic body standards put on men In another post I depicted the difference between ideals and practical dating but even in both, men have it more favorable when it comes to being judged on physical appearance. You're right, most men settle for far less than a model in the real world. But most women settle for far less than a stud. And its more common to see a more attractive woman with a less attractive man than vice versa. Find me an attactive man who is with a less attractive woman who is not ridiculed for it. Pierce Brosnan,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/16 07:49 PM
1	Ladies: How soon after you give a guy your number do you expect him to text/contact you? Geez, based on your and others' response I feel like I should have specified that I'm talking about an average rule of thumb that I've experienced in the dating world. Most men respond in about 1-2 days. If you want to do it differently, feel free. I stated how one case or another might make me feel but honestly it wouldn't be a deal breaker. I can deduce whether a guy is truly interested or desperate in the first couple of dates so all in all, it's not the end of the world no matter what you do…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/16 07:42 PM
1	Do you actually believe this 41 year old RPer who claims he has sex with multiple different women in a day and has them chauffeur him around town? Not snarky, just boggled that people genuinely believe that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/16 07:38 PM
1	Do you actually believe this 41 year old RPer who claims he has sex with multiple different women in a day and has them chauffeur him around town? Haha, no. I don't think it's impossible, but I'd be willing to bet money that things didn't happen the way he said they did. A lot of how he describes things went is a little too convenient, even if you were George Clooney at the club that night. He also shares that thing that a lot of RPers writing field reports too...where he feels the need to validate himself and defend his actions to TRP audience for no reason. I can't imagine a guy needing to validate himself to online strangers is that muc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/16 02:21 PM
4	Do you actually believe this 41 year old RPer who claims he has sex with multiple different women in a day and has them chauffeur him around town? 40 years old isn't even a healthy man's prime Lol, it's at least 7 years past his prime.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/16 02:16 PM
1	Something needs to change about these unrealistic body standards put on men Plastic surgery and cosmetics industries vastly trump the workout supplement industries, but if you want to go that route, women are also targeted for fitness accessories/supplements. Do you genuinely believe men are judged more for their appearance than women, and if so, what is your evidence of it? Likewise, if you don't, want is your proof that women are judged more for their appearance?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/16 03:26 AM
3	Q4Women: What is "creepy" behaviour in a man? A common way underage girls enter the sex trade is by "modeling recruiters ". Ugh, the thought of it still sends shivers up my spine. Honest to god, on the way back to my car I grabbed a rock from the beach and put it in my purse because I was scared he'd spring out of no where. Its funny you say this as women in subs like /r/AskWomen would say this is creepy if a man did it. Really? I wouldn't think most people would find that creepy. The guy was normal, approached normally, and backed off and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/16 01:53 AM
1	CMV: Neckbeards and low-status men are less likely to commit sexual assault as they can't get away with it and they know it. I don't know about the rates of desprate/neckbeard men sexual assaulting compared to non desperate/neckbeard men. I will say desperation tends to give people tunnel vision...they're preoccupied by what they're not getting, and as a result they tend to ignore a lot of other factors, such as the other persons feelings. I can't see a neckbeard actively creating situations to sexually assault people, but if the opportunity presents itself, I'd be surprised if they didn't. Their hunger trumps their e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/16 10:33 PM
3	Something needs to change about these unrealistic body standards put on men I don't think 50% men are shit out of luck for not being tall. I think short men feel that way because they have to endure some more rejection than a tall man. Height really is not as important for male attractiveness as much as people here make it out to be, and I'm a bit puzzled why it's the case here. I think men on here just idolize jocks or warrior characters on their favorite TV shows who happen to be tall and think that's what the definition of an attractive man is to women because that's…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/16 08:26 PM
3	Something needs to change about these unrealistic body standards put on men If what you're saying is true, liposuction, cellulite removal and breast implant services wouldn't be booming industries. Women wouldn't have deformed their ribcages for decades to change an unfavorable body shape. And so on. Men have some things worse than women. Being judged on appearance and physical standards are not one of them. One only has to take a look at the cosmetics and plastic surgery industries to see that. You do make a good point though, the difference between ideals and practica…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/16 07:59 PM
6	Q4Women: What is "creepy" behaviour in a man? Yup, it's contexts/circumstances, not feelings. If you're the kind of person who completely ignores contexts, then it's no wonder you would have been called creepy at some point. Acknowledging contexts and circumstances is part of navigating social interactions. To use your example, if I wanted to ask someone a question in the middle of the night, I'd announce myself from further away instead of sneaking up on them, because I would want to acknowledge their perspective at that point in time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/16 03:47 PM
8	Q4Women: What is "creepy" behaviour in a man? You can't even bring yourself to answer the question that if those things happened, would they be considered creepy? I think you greatly overestimate the social aptitude of some men. Are you RP? Many RP-ers observe the interactions between men they idolize and women they want, deduce they've narrowed it down to what those men do, and then try it out. They assume they are emulating what those men do, but in reality, they're not. They're inexperienced outsiders trying to emulate an oversimplified …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/16 03:15 PM
5	Q4Women: What is "creepy" behaviour in a man? Theoretically speaking, if those things were true, would you agree that they were creepy? The triple take aside because I don't think that's creepy either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/16 02:52 PM
11	Q4Women: What is "creepy" behaviour in a man? I'll give examples of things that have happened to me that have been creepy, and things that have not. Creepy: Guy in his late 30's approaches me, a 17 year old at the beach. Kind of uncomfortable for a 17 year old regardless. He wouldn't let me get a sentence in, kept talking about himself and how he has a modeling studio and wants to take pictures, and we should go right now, he'll drive us there (yeah fucking right). I said no, he left. He came back 2 more times, with the same spiel, now addi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/16 02:50 PM
2	Q4Women: What is "creepy" behaviour in a man? Not just that but the whole you have to be unattractive to be creepy is just a way of rationalizing the fact that they tried to emulate the Chads they idolize and the things that Chads do and failed. So it's not that they didn't do it right, that they don't know how to navigate subtle nuances of conversation, nor how to employ charisma, it's that women hate them because they're unattractive. The fault is displaced on women and vicitmhood is employed - they're supposedly being kicked down just fo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/16 02:38 PM
8	Q4Women: What is "creepy" behaviour in a man? You saw those examples and genuinely thought they were so absurd so as to make the can't breathe oxygen joke?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/16 02:35 PM
1	"More men have weird fetishes than women" Do you agree or disagree with this statement? Agree, men have more weird fetishes and sexual disorders than women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/16 02:31 PM
5	Something needs to change about these unrealistic body standards put on men image Nothing's really wrong with her, but she's not really seen conventionally hot because of her shape/face.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/16 10:16 AM
5	Something needs to change about these unrealistic body standards put on men http://en.mediamass.net/people/elijah-wood/sexiest-alive.html And generally speaking he has a huge female fanbase that thinks he's hot. Reach for those straws.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/16 10:11 AM
8	Something needs to change about these unrealistic body standards put on men What does feminism have to do with any of this? No kevin harts, no peter dinklages, no Seth rogens, no Aziz ansaris, none of that. Why are all the sexiest men alive cover dudes all buff, tall white guys? Daniel Radcliffe, Bruno Mars, Tom Cruise, Sisqo, Elijah Wood, Kendrick Lamar, all the Jonas brothers, etc etc. For a women to be attractive, all she has to do is have a healthy body. Haha, what bullshit. Here's what "healthy body" really means: No being fat, have to be toned, not have stretch ma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/16 03:51 AM
1	Is there no better cologne than another woman's perfume Why do you think this is? Because you're more confident around women when you know you have a fallback, and people like confidence. Also generally speaking during the dating phases of relationships, people tend to invest more effort into their appearance.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/16 03:37 AM
1	No Guys are Successful with Women Stop doing what you are doing. Do other things. Pre-select women. Go in places where there's going to be more interested people than non-interested people. You're doing the equivalent of going to a club on Couples Night and wondering why you're not getting success as a single person. You have to go to the club on Singles Night. This is metaphorically speaking, although if clubs around you have a singles night, that's something to check out. Increase your attractiveness, especially if you're goin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/16 05:02 PM
1	No Guys are Successful with Women Sure, what am I saying is that all guys would experience a similar level of rejection if they did what I did. Obviously. Because it's a numbers strategy. I think you think this is saying something more than it actually is. All it's saying is, "I asked women who weren't interested in me and they weren't interested in me." Basically, you're dumbing it down to the point of tautology. This is pointless, there's no insight here. If you want less rejection, adjust your strategy so that you're less rej…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/16 04:52 PM
3	Are abusive men easy to spot or not? Some are, some are not. The real question is, which one is likely to wind up with a woman by his side? The one who shows his abusive side on the first date or the one that masks it for years? This topic gets brought up a lot and it's mindboggling to me the extent to which people who argue your side discount the effects of emotional attachment. Once a person is emotionally invested in another individual, they will go to great lengths to rationalize a lot of bad behavior. I would figure a least so…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/16 04:44 PM
2	No Guys are Successful with Women You are wrong. All women will reject most men all of the time. Then you are in too deep for anyone to change your mind. The only thing I would ask is where is your evidence. Actual physical proof and numbers. You don't even have to show it to me, show it to yourself. I attracted someone really attractive. According to you, I would have been better off accepting she was out of my league. I don't know what would be better for you. You attracted someone really attractive? Great. Doesn't mean she's …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/16 04:32 PM
2	No Guys are Successful with Women You're projecting. You're assuming I'm only interested in women completely out of my league. That's not what projecting is. You are saying, "I have this trouble with women, therefore all men do too, maybe only slightly less than me." Most men don't have your trouble. Which then begs the question, why do you have this trouble? The logical answer is your strategy and approach must be different than that of other men. So I covered some of the basic explanations and strategy mistakes that men like y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/16 03:49 PM
4	Q4ALL: Why is there no female equivalent of the "Playboy Millionaire"? That's part of it. Part of it these men have already "sown their oats." There's other components to it too. A lot of these men are are pretty dignified and see Hugh Hefner's lifestyle as below them; I would say that's probably the most significant influence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/16 03:28 PM
1	No Guys are Successful with Women I made it 100% clear that some guys will do better than me. You said not by much. Nonetheless, virtually all guys will be rejected by most women whatever they do. Virtually all people will experience rejection, no matter what they do, men or women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/16 03:21 PM
1	No Guys are Successful with Women Every single guy's experience with the opposite sex is defined by constant rejection. I think you are projecting. If men are blindly approaching compete strangers who are out of their league, then yes, probably. Most men however usually approach women they already know, in their social circle, where they can get a feel for how interested the woman is. And they usually approach women in their league or a little above. I concluded that 80% of women are going to reject me immediately just because o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/16 03:18 PM
11	Q4ALL: Why is there no female equivalent of the "Playboy Millionaire"? Men on the other hand, use money to free themselves from relationship boundaries. Is this really the case though? Sure, some Hugh Hefners exist. But when you look at it, the majority of rich men ARE in marriages, and usually lasting marriages compared to the poorer classes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/16 03:04 PM
1	Discuss. What up with this height obsession lately? Because so many women want men that tall They really don't. I've literally only heard 3 times women say they want a "super tall guy, 6 feet or taller," and they were pretty tall women themselves (about 5'9). Most women want just a guy taller than them, and even then, most women will make an exception for a man that meets her other criteria. The idea that one trait matters that much, especially height, to the vast majority of women is laughable. There probably do exist heightists, but they're not…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/16 06:42 AM
3	Q4All: Why does "no fap" get a lot of heat and flak from both BPers and RPers? I think nofap gets a bad reputation because they tend to overly demonize the effects of porn and masturbation based on their own negative experience with it. It's akin to a reformed alcoholic talking about how alcohol is the worst thing ever, and something everyone should avoid or refrain from using because they themselves can't use it responsibly. Why would I, someone who never had troubles with alcohol, and only had positive experiences with it because I consume it in moderation, agree with th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/09/16 10:29 AM
1	Q4All: Why does "no fap" get a lot of heat and flak from both BPers and RPers? I hope you're being facetious. We definitely don't have opposable thumbs so we could masturbate. Nor would you need opposable thumbs to masturbate. See dogs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/09/16 10:23 AM
2	Q4All: Why does "no fap" get a lot of heat and flak from both BPers and RPers? Built into it? No. It's a simple matter of not giving into a whim or desire every time you feel like doing it. I would argue if you have poor self-control or a compulsive personality, you're more likely to not be able to use porn without abusing it. But this isn't most people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/09/16 10:19 AM
4	CMV The most harmful sub on reddit is r/relationships You tried to justify it or equate it to taking responsibility, but it is still not so. In those cases, taking true responsibility is saying, "I am a terrible worker who stole, so it makes perfect sense why the employer fired me. The employer is not shitty, they are reacting how I would react if I was the employer." "I walked into that burger joint a raging trainwreck, so the burger joint owners kicked me out. It's not because they are sexist/racist/etc, it is because they don't want their other …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/16 03:38 PM
2	CMV The most harmful sub on reddit is r/relationships Forget? It's not like we once knew, and forgot how the world works, and suddenly remembered. Forget/failed to acknowledge/whatever other wording you want to use. It's not a form of blaming yourself or taking responsibility.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/16 03:28 PM
5	CMV The most harmful sub on reddit is r/relationships It's becoming more obvious that this isn't a case that r/relationships gives sexist advice but rather for people here, the fact that they actually considered the female posters feelings at all, is horrible.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/16 03:02 PM
5	CMV The most harmful sub on reddit is r/relationships R/relationships seems to interpret any relationship where the guy doesn't do everything possible and more to please the girl or the girl is required to do anything at all Whoa, not even close dude. If that's your interpretation of the subreddit then you've either not spent enough time there or you're reading with some gigantic blinders on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/16 02:59 PM
6	CMV The most harmful sub on reddit is r/relationships TRP's advice is known to often work So does that of the relationships subreddit. But we're talking about which one is more harmful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/16 02:58 PM
7	CMV The most harmful sub on reddit is r/relationships Saying it's your fault for forgetting to accept that women are the way they are is still blaming the woman, and while it SEEMS like you're taking blame or responsibility, but it really isn't. Anyone would be wiling to take that "blame." Imagine I'm a terrible worker, who steals from the company, and I got fired. "It's my fault for forgetting how shitty and mean this company is." Imagine I'm ordering a burger, and I show up naked and start yelling at the server and they refuse to serve me. "It's …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/16 02:57 PM
5	CMV The most harmful sub on reddit is r/relationships Eh, no. The advice offered is rarely in the best interests of OP The advice given is in the best interests of the OP, it's just usually an overreaction. OP does not have to follow the advice, and you'll usually find varying suggestions on how to proceed. It's also incredibly sexist It really isn't. Every time this debate has been brought up, that /r/relationships is sexist, all of the examples given are never even comparisons. What is more at play is what I said earlier, that people at r/relatio…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/16 02:49 PM
4	Q4Men: When you ask a woman "What do you have to offer?" What sort of answer are you looking for? I think RP, on average, lean towards being the kind of people that don't like to compromise, don't have a lot of patience, and lean on the self-absorbed or selfish side. That's why they want a woman like the above - the complete giver who asks for nothing, a toy that can be picked up and placed away depending on their mood, because for those kinds of individuals, that's the easiest partner to be around. Any requirement of compromise is a great expense of their effort and taxing compared to the a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/16 03:53 PM
4	Q4RP: Why is Angelina Jolie insane for getting her breasts removed? Possibly overly cautious, but like I said, between the BRCA diagnosis, and her mom having that cancer, I can see how her doctors would actually be pushing for the masectomy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/16 02:34 PM
3	Q4RP: Why is Angelina Jolie insane for getting her breasts removed? She has implants. I would argue that the vast majority of men have lusted at least after one person who has implants.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/16 02:30 PM
12	Q4RP: Why is Angelina Jolie insane for getting her breasts removed? I've done absolutely 0 reading on it myself Well, here's the short summary: She was found to have the BRCA gene after getting tested following her mother's cancer discovery. People with the BRCA gene are recommended by doctors to get a mastectomy, due to the strong likelihood of developing cancer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/16 02:25 PM
35	Q4RP: Why is Angelina Jolie insane for getting her breasts removed? I think the problem in her case was that she was found to be a carrier of a gene that almost guarantees the development of breast cancer at some point in her life. Double mastectomy might be weird outside of that context, but is actually the doctor recommended way of proceeding after that kind of discovery. She has 7 young children, it would be irresponsible for her to put vanity above her life. Besides, she got breast implants.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/16 02:23 PM
1	Regarding the idea that TRP and Manosphere are hateful and offensive, why does it matter anyway? In this regard, is the Manosphere held to a different standard than the rest of society? Is it ever possible for hatred to be justified Yes, hatred is definitely possible to be justified. However, this is hatred of a large group of people (3+ billion) who haven't done anything to them, based on the actions of a few individuals they have interacted with, or, based on personal frustrations, failures, and shortcomings. I don't think that is reasonable. I think that is actually the opposite of reason. You used the word "enemy." Women are not the enemy of man. If they were, I would imagi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/16 02:16 PM
1	CMV: Men also practice AFBB I completely disagree. I haven't seen it work that way to anyone around me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/16 02:06 PM
0	Q4Women: With your privileged knowledge of TRP's existence, do you now avoid all men who lift on the off chance they learned it from TRP? No, that would be silly. It would be alienating a large group of people for a small subsection of it that the rest does not have any additional overlap. Instead, I let their behavior and actions demonstrate their character and belief system, and make decisions accordingly. To put it in perspective, TRP is what, 150,000 subscribers? I'm willing to bet only half lift, and only half of that half have lifted long enough for there to be a noticeable difference.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/16 07:41 AM
4	I guess I understand the Blue Pill hate for the Red Pill, but why does TBP attack or even care MGTOWs? MGTOW is arguably worse than TRP, in terms of the criticisms people have of TRP. MGTOW are the bitterest people in the manosphere, because they've completely given up. If it was just men going their own way, I don't think anyone would really care.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/16 07:35 AM
2	There seems to be a general decline in testosterone levels over generations, doesn't this sort of align with RedPilly thoughts? I think testosterone's most important and most understated function is the contribution to the healthy function of the male body. I wouldn't expect to see much of a change in social aspects, but assuming this trend is real, I would expect to see an increase in male health problems. Not just sexual function, but heart health, metabolism, mental health, weight regulation, blood pressure, etc. Perhaps if that happens we would see a renewed interest in this subject.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/16 07:43 PM
5	Q4A: What advantage or benefit does a woman 25+ have over a girl that is 18? I don't think the average man would have as much difficulty dealing with a 25 year old, thus, all those other benefits and perks would become relevant bonuses.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/16 07:35 PM
3	Why should an incel be "fixed"? But they can make themselves desirable enough to be attractive, or at least, it is a possibility. They could theretically make themselves more appealing. The lack of motivation to change that most incels experience is a handicap but not one that cannot be overcome. At least not for most incels. If a guy without arms or a man who is 800 lbs can find a girlfriend, then the only thing stopping an incel is himself. Affirmative action doesn't mean hiring unqualified people. As for rape, smoking weed …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/16 07:31 PM
2	There seems to be a general decline in testosterone levels over generations, doesn't this sort of align with RedPilly thoughts? I'm not sure why it hasn't been. Perhaps the researchers haven't done a good job of getting the research out and requesting commentary on it, perhaps people are simply not interested in researching it further, perhaps the actual study has obvious flaws (since we're reading a summary of the actual study ). I would like to see more. Regarding impact on human race...I doubt it. We're talking about a miniscule change, and testosterone doesn't impact human behavior as much as some people claim. I thi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/16 07:22 PM
3	CMV: Men also practice AFBB If that's how you want to interpret it but I made a clear distinction between the two. AFBB implies BB is something women settle for but would rather have AF. I'm arguing instead that the actual preference changes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/16 07:19 PM
8	Q4A: What advantage or benefit does a woman 25+ have over a girl that is 18? I think a lot of this is more of a reflection of how you are. People who don't like to surround themselves with strong-willed people, or independent people, are generally individuals who are very impatient and uncompromising. Not a criticism, just an observation. But speaking in favor of the average guy, unless he's in the age range of an 18 year old, he would fare way better with a 25 year old than an 18 year old.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/16 04:10 PM
6	CMV: Men also practice AFBB I don't really think AFBB is really a thing. I think people simply value different traits at 20 and at 30, and I think it is true for both men and women. I was recently talking to a man who is in his early 20's and broke up with his high school sweetheart of 7 years - a woman he claims was attractive and a great girlfriend, and that they had no issues. Why? He wanted to see what else was out there before settling down. Sounds like the same explanation women give for not settling down in their ea…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/16 04:06 PM
2	There seems to be a general decline in testosterone levels over generations, doesn't this sort of align with RedPilly thoughts? There is no explanation as to how they controlled for obesity. I'm skeptical because using logic, we know adipose tissue is associated with declines in testosterone, and we know people are getting fatter and fatter across decades. but where's the evidence that it is? Where's the evidence that it's not? Has any outside research group re-ran this study and duplicated the results? The onus is on the study to prove itself valid. Did they actually weigh the participants? All I see is a statement that…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/16 03:55 PM
9	Q4A: What advantage or benefit does a woman 25+ have over a girl that is 18? More naive isn't a good trait, unless we're talking short term. Naive people stop being naive eventually, and then you don't know what you're going to get. Naiveness is associated with unpredictability. If I was investing time and effort into something (a relationship) at the expense of something else (relationship/sex with other people), I'd want certainty. Smoother skin? Isn't that a case by case thing? I'm not talking about women past 30 who have started to wrinkle. I don't think the average …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/16 03:14 PM
6	Why should an incel be "fixed"? Because they are human beings suffering due to a horrible problem. I can somewhat sympathize with incels because loneliness sucks, but I also believe most incels are not victims of circumstance, but rather victims of their own problems that are solvable. For most of them, their problems are within their control. Why do people care so much about rape victims? Because rape is something that happens outside of one's control. Why can't women be taught to have sex with incels??? Why should they be? "…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/16 02:44 PM
3	There seems to be a general decline in testosterone levels over generations, doesn't this sort of align with RedPilly thoughts? All this really says is men are getting more sedentary, and I don't buy that obesity is not a factor. Feminist intellectual phase locking? More likely dubious/questionable research. isn't this a huge issue? Besides the usual issues associated with a sedentary lifestyle, why would it be?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/16 02:34 PM
7	Q4A: What advantage or benefit does a woman 25+ have over a girl that is 18? Advantages: Has their own place Has income Has disposable income In a more stable place in life/less likely to uproot or move More stable in general which is associated with quality of the relationship; people freaking out or pressed for time don't make good partners More emotionally mature; less likely to freak out or end relationships over stupid things More likely to filter for men instead of choosing men based on whims or impulses Better in bed Etc, etc Honestly, I can't find a good reason w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/16 02:15 PM
21	Q4A: What advantage or benefit does a woman 25+ have over a girl that is 18? Your preference may be so but you're wrong about independent women being more likely to cheat. Women with college degrees are less likely to cheat and less likely to get a divorce. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/12/04/education-and-marriage/ http://www.businessinsider.com/dependent-spouses-more-likely-to-cheat-2015-6	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/16 02:05 PM