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Strong Independent Womanbigdaveyl/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/04/19 04:31 PM
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It's the old saying, there's 2 types of women, the ones you have fun with and the ones you can bring home to meet the family. She is in the former camp.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/07/24 11:29 AM
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I love the "Accept my child but you should preferably have none or older ones" thing. Talk about hypocrisy. Also, she writes that she's Catholic and wants someone with similar beliefs. It begs the questions: If she was married in the past, did she get an annulment so that she can freely marry in the Church again? She says she doesn't want anymore children. It begs the question: is she using artificial forms of contraception which are viewed as sinful by the Church?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/07/24 11:16 AM
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If the father died, the stepfather is still raising another man's child. I think when people use this line, i.e. I don't want to raise someone else's child, they should be more specific to what they mean or they haven't thought things through. The problem that many men have is that there's an elephant in the room that needs to be addressed as to why the father isn't in the picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 05:00 PM
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Being a widow, especially if the death was caused by an accident or a disease like cancer is a separate class - they got dealt a shitty hand through no fault of their own. But, we're mostly talking about the 20's and 30's crowd, where people are less likely to die and when they do, it's usually accidental.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 04:24 PM
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I have a relative in a similar situation. He was bipolar and had children with another woman before they knew each other and got married. He also was unable to hold down a job and she was the breadwinner. Let's not act like there were no red flags in this situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 04:07 PM
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People rarely just wake up one day and start beating their significant other or children into a pulp without some signs that they are unhinged beforehand. You give people too much credit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 04:04 PM
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What I find hilarious is that I posted something like "most women are average and uninteresting just like the men they complain about" in PPD. One poster called me a misogynist because I didn't give women any credit for their accomplishments - like being a corporate slave turning out spreadsheets is an accomplishment.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/07/24 12:18 PM
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Except kids raised by single mothers generally do worse than those with 2 parents around.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/07/24 03:05 PM
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You're pretty much correct. I believe women like this should not be in the dating market. They are doing themselves and their children a disservice. I understand it will be lonely, however, but they are partially responsible for this situation by picking the wrong guy, not sticking it out with him and having children. As you point out, when she's in her 40's, it should be less of an issue especially if the kids are independent.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/07/24 12:20 PM
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Wow, so much... Much like how women complain about men being desperate, the opposite can also be true, especially as the time runs out... Then you have the complaints about "settling." It's most likely the person you married was your equal in looks/value and your expectations were too high. I wish therapists were actually qualified and would deprogram some of these women. I get that there needs to be some physical attraction, but when you're a 5, there's nothing wrong with getting with 3's and 4…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/07/24 12:13 PM
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I was a teenager in 1993. lol
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/07/24 07:52 PM
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So, please explain how you get a child that appears to be mixed race and another child that isn't from the same dad?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/06/24 02:26 AM
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All one has to look at what popular comedy is today and it's all sexual based, what are we, in sixth grade again?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/06/24 12:44 AM
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If you claim you're average looking but then complain about attracting below average men, it is likely that you're below average yourself. And I find it hard to believe that the men who approach have no redeeming qualities.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/06/24 12:35 AM
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You can't be serious.... It's fairly obvious.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/06/24 12:32 AM
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"I'm getting too old for this shit"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/06/24 12:28 AM
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if state EBT cards can be used to purchase Monster energy drinks. I can take you down to several of my local Wal Marts and you'd be surprised.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/06/24 02:48 PM
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but shower afterwards so he doesn't smell. Where do these women find men that small bad or have bad hygiene? And, should he not mow the lawn or work in the garage during the summer time?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/06/24 02:43 PM
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Meth lab in the basement so it pays for itself?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/06/24 02:41 PM
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You forgot one: Be hot.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/06/24 02:39 PM
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By keeping his balls empty and his stomach full?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/06/24 02:38 PM
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Why aren't these girls Conservative before they get all tatted up and have a couple of kids?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/06/24 12:14 PM
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For manosphere men who do not like Pearl, it is because of what she is even though she says what they want to hear. Wrong. Pearl is a grifter. There are plenty of men in the so called Red Pill space that are grifters as well. It doesn't matter what you're genitalia are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:06 AM
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Average men out in the world are literally meaner to me when I don’t dress up and wear make up. They’re just lying here to save face and keep a victim complex like they’ve never done anything wrong in their lives and women are just as always shallow mean bitches. This isn't strictly a male thing; women tend to treat attractive men differently than less attractive men. IIRC, better looking people tend to have more luck during job interviews. So it goes well beyond dating. TL;DR: there is a "prett…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 09:53 AM
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Pearl is a poser, she is everything she critiques, an early 30´s unmarried childless woman with a promiscuous past. Find a less hypocrite example. I would have more respect for Pearl if she came out and said "Yes, I'm late 20's/early 30's, unmarried and childless. This is how I was wrong.... Don't be like me, kids!"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 09:48 AM
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She states that nice guys show no interest in her? Doubtful. It's much more likely that she does not give any sort of social cues of interest to those nice guys she mentions, but rather focuses solely on the asshole guys. Because those "nice guys" aren't "attractive enough."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/06/24 06:07 PM
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To be fair, single payer healthcare is the norm in pretty much everywhere in the western world, except in the US. Of course, there is much to be desired in the US system. But, unfortunately, it is what it is and no amount of bitching will change things. This is a case where "your poor planning does not constitute an emergency on my part."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/06/24 06:26 PM
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Also, many men are learning the hard way that dating within a social or work circle predictably causes fucking problems when predictably they have to bail on a woman that gets it in her head to pull some dumb shit that DQ's her from further involvement. Go through the damage and drama such a woman causes a few times and a man will have had enough of that shit. Momma always said don't shit where you eat....
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/06/24 02:02 PM
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Real life is not like Hallmark movies. This rings true for me, especially because of personal events over the past year. My wife started having symptoms on and off around this time last year and was eventually diagnosed with stage 4 endometrial cancer of the ovary. Let's just say, if she didn't have a partner, she would likely be dead by now - she was too ill to work and then the chemo made her not feel great, either. Additionally, I work in tech and work for a state community college, so she's …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/06/24 01:54 PM
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Dudes here hate when a woman is anything other than mediocre, screaming “I can’t fuck your degree” or “career women bad”. The only “achievement” some guys will ever care about in a woman is whether she was born pretty… so what is the incentive to excel, if men punish you for it anyways? A degree or a career doesn't make a woman (or man for that matter) interesting or worth being around. So what, you went to college and became a corporate slave in the cubical farm playing with Excel spread sheets…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 11:39 AM
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This newfound autonomy challenges the conventional notion of settling for a mediocre partner when the opportunity to seek and attain more fulfilling relationships is readily available. Here's the thing. Most women are mediocre themselves, by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 10:51 AM
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No. My preference is based on the simple fact that logistics is a bit harder with someone who has kids under a certain age, especially when I was younger. For example, when I dated a single mom when I was in college, we spent a lot of time at her place because she has a 2 year old. It got boring after awhile because I wanted to socialize with friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:33 AM
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I've always contended that I like my cats more than most people. It's not hard to see why. When you look at things that way.......
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/06/24 04:59 PM
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Roman Catholic Church has been granting annulments (which is the same thing) Not really. Annulments are supposed look at what happened at the time of the wedding to see if there was anything that would preclude the couple from contracting a valid marriage. For example, the proverbial shotgun wedding may not be considered a valid marriage in the eyes of the church. List of possible grounds for annulments. US bishops have come under considerable scrutiny and criticism by Catholic clergy in other c…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/06/24 04:56 PM
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No such thing. Get thee to a nunnery. Well, it's worse than that. Catholics don't have divorce but we do have something called an Annulment. What that entails is an investigation to see if one or both parties had issues that would preclude them from exchanging vows at the time of the wedding. For example, if someone had a hiding a drug/alcohol problem at the time of the wedding or had a mental illness that wasn't being treated well. If she was really serious about finding a God loving man, she'd…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/06/24 04:41 PM

The point of the OP is that they don't want someone so inflexible that it's "my way or the highway" type of deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:06 AM

He enrolled in college and paid tuition and focused on what he needed to graduate instead of getting distracted, and that makes him bad? If you're going to spend all that money and possibly go into debt, why wouldn't you do this? It would be stupid to major in something that didn't have decent career prospects (return on investment) or to flunk out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:59 AM
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He might have better insurance where he works, and could put you and your son on it, and save money. Also, 130 +60 = 190K. That is a good life for most couples. I work for a state school as a Software Engineer/Database Developer. I could definitely make more out in the private sector, however: I have top tier insurance. My wife currently has stage 4 cancer and had 2 hospital stays and is getting world class treatment with some of the newest drugs on the market (read: $$$$$). Since September 2023…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/05/24 12:53 PM
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That may be why many of these women pine for their first boyfriends in her 20's: "He was hot and on a good career track and then instead of marrying me we broke up when I screamed at him for refusing to wash dishes! Now where did I leave the Loreal gray cover up?" There are times I have even felt this way.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/05/24 12:44 PM
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Or #4, she could merely be projecting all the things she did and she was the abusive one on all those relationships And when the man in the relationship actually stopped being the doormat, it's "abuse."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/05/24 12:32 PM
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Pics or it didn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 06:42 PM
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Hannah (Pearl's first name) is just a troll and doing it for clicks. Some of y'all are just eating it right up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 06:28 PM
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Right, we never matched people prior to now based on mutual circumstances, income, preferences, characteristics. Yep. I know that's how my grandparents and even parents met.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:08 AM
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Pretty much. At some point these people have to get over themselves - they are likely very average (most people are) but are looking for someone well above average. In other words, this is a classic case of her brain writing checks that her body can't cash.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/05/24 02:12 PM
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why invite the aggravation of a demanding 50yo female? Having a partner is supposed to make life easier in the long run....
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/05/24 02:16 PM
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Why big no no? No one is "owed" a child/children for started. It's supposed to be a privilege/blessing. (Obviously this has been abused over the years.) If you can't have children the way things were designed, maybe adopt or use your time or money for some other good cause? Additionally, many of the embryo's don't implant, high rate of miscarriage, selective abortion, not used, etc. In other words, stuff that would generally fall into the "abortion" bucket. I was just reading something that we a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/05/24 02:15 PM
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We all have know single (and lonely) means waaay different thing for men and women. I've seen women in TikTok compilations talk about going celibate to "detox" from men. One woman had managed 25 days and made it sound like she had solved cold fusion... I always found it ironic that some women would get dumped by their boyfriend and then be all doom and gloom about how they are gonna be all lonely and stuff. But then magically have a new boyfriend a week later.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/05/24 02:04 PM
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Few can pull that off unless they have stayed in phenomenal condition. And it's usually celebrities who basically make their living on their image - so they have the time and money to devote to working out 24/7, plastic surgery eating the "best" foods and what not. Us working stiffs? Not so much...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/05/24 01:59 PM
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And I've taken the down votes for pointing out the hypocrisy in other subs. For example, the "logic" these folks use is that they don't like doing "x" (think stuff like giving head or using the exit hole for entry) and never liked doing "x." But the problem is they did it with people they claim not to like anymore. So, why can't you do it with someone you're supposedly committed to now?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/05/24 01:53 PM
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I really wish being religious still ment something today. This has been a problem for at least 2 decades. I remember these two women I know from church who were my age (one 1 year older and another 1 year younger). The both married atheists, because all the Catholic men were not there or lame - I almost felt like asking, what am I, chopped liver? One of them went and got IVF, even though that's a big no no. And not to get too political, they both are hardcore Democrats. One of them thinks Biden …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/05/24 01:43 PM
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A lot of these rants (like the one in the OP) are truly written by malicious people or virgins. It's the only way I can explain the deranged and warped view emanating through every word. Or people that are mentally ill or terrible at relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 11:07 AM
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Single moms: The logistics of getting time together might be tougher than with single women. Especially when a man is younger, there are plenty of women who don't have this problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:11 PM
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Either that, or whatever Backpage became........
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/05/24 09:45 PM
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Pretty much. If she was so "traditional" now, she'd work things out with the father of the children and not be on the dating market. The only time it would be okay to bail is if she and the kids were in immediate danger of harm or she was widowed. If it was the former, I'd want to see some proof, like he went to jail or something, not "oh he was verbally abusive." Any argument between a couple could be considered "verbal abuse."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/05/24 05:20 PM
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This is a good point that I've heard people make when discussing women's "rights" when it came to things like owning property and having credit and the like. I don't think the people who claim women were "oppressed" understood your point. In the "old days" it was assumed that men would be the primary bread winners of the house hold. Since they were earning most or all of the money, it is a fair assumption that they should be the ones applying for credit. In other words, it wouldn't be fair for a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/05/24 11:48 AM
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Personal responsibility is certainly the largest component of determining someone's health. However, to play Devil's Advocate for one minute. I'd argue that it is harder to an extent in modern times to keep the weight off than it was for most of history up until the mid 20 century. When most people were poor and barely had enough to eat in the first place, walking was a primary means of transport and most people did some sort of manual labor, it was certainly easier for people to keep weight off…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/05/24 11:39 AM
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They will always want a bail out from those of us that tried to follow the precepts of a religion from the get go. Again, these folks don't quite understand that while sin is forgiven, the consequences of said sins don't magically go away.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/05/24 11:27 AM
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Part of the problem, is it kind of goes against the stated mission of the organization (hospital for sinners, not a country club for saints). I know of one priest who kind of does it the right way, which is how they did it before, IIRC. He tells couples that are living together, especially ones without children, to move out until the wedding or he will not marry them. It's hilarious when these couples get their panties in a snit because of it. But, he does have biblical basis (see: Matthew 18:6)…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/05/24 05:06 PM
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Most likely, yes. The problem is that the Church, in the 60's, decided to become more "inclusive" and make it easier for these couples to normalize their relationships. However, clergy took this too far and it it has resulted in the pussification of the church among other reasons.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/05/24 04:46 PM
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It can be both.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/05/24 04:27 PM
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My partner and I are Catholic and we had to do some lame pre-cana weekend crap. It was sad (or maybe funny?) that we were the only couple of the dozen or more who weren't living together already. one couple that was sitting next to us at lunch, the woman already had 5 kids. Of course, much of the content was watered down.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/05/24 04:26 PM
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I always feel like asking these women if they would be okay with making me sandwiches and giving head regularly.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/05/24 04:19 PM
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The average adult American woman is clinically obese. Yet, has nothing but disgust for obese men.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/05/24 04:17 PM
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Mary was young, religious and upfront about everything.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/05/24 04:14 PM
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This is what happens when women still demand that men have a career, make [significantly] more than them and the like. The men that are going to fit these requirements will be older than them for starters unless they were born with the proverbial silver spoon or got their money in a morally questionable manor. And on the flip side, if these older men are still shagging women that end up being younger and better looking, why would they stop? What's the problem exactly?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/05/24 04:13 PM
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If she has a problem attracting men, it's because she's fat, unattractive, insufferable or outright lying. Correction, she doesn't have a problem attracting men she has a problem keeping men, specifically men she likes. It's like that infamous rental car scene from Seinfeld - they can take the reservation but can't keep it, which is kind of the important thing. The other thing - it's one thing to be fat or unattractive, but the real problem is many of these women are is insufferable, even the go…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/05/24 04:08 PM
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Nice write up, I would say the tl;dr version is that God will forgive the sin but he won't make the consequences magically disappear.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/05/24 12:30 PM
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guess what men learn to do? I have a theory along with this... Men (in general) tend to get pushy to meet and have sex ASAP because they've all been in situations where they've been strung along a week or two and then nothing happens.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/05/24 08:20 PM
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The D picks probably happen when they take communication off the dating app, which I would assume there would be some mutual interest anyways. And then when the D pick happens and things don't work out, she can simply blame him for being a perv.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/05/24 08:15 PM
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Correct. It's going to shift where "average" is. This is also why raising the minimum wage is problematic in some respects. There are some jobs where all one needs is a couple of operating brain cells and hands that mostly work. So, since the vast majority of the population can do those jobs, of course the pay will be low.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/05/24 08:07 PM
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I laugh when I see shit like this. How about "finding God" before you have 4 kids and aren't with the dad(s). I'm not saying U-turns aren't allowed, but I have a feeling that the man she wants won't feel the same.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/05/24 08:01 PM
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I believe I once saw a study on CEO and other C-level/top execs at companies and they found that many of them had the traits you mention.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 06:34 PM
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Maybe don't be so quick to trash a relationship over your assumptions. Pretty much, it sounds like there was more going in in OP's story, and the "He was attracted to other women not like me" was a cop out so she doesn't look bad (no pun intended).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 11:52 AM
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You do realize that "attraction" isn't necessarily binary? Meaning that someone can find positive aspects about someone even though they may not be their "type."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 11:47 AM
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This is my understanding as well - specifically women should use their youth/beauty/fertility/etc. to lock up the guy she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:31 PM
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Sure, men can do this and will have poor results because they are excluding women closer to their own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:07 PM
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People are just irrational and illogical in general regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:01 PM
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It's weird to see so many women say men are shallow and only care about looks etc and then proceed to act like providing a series of wet holes is good enough for men to practically thrown themselves at you? Projection. Women are just as capable as being as shallow as men.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/04/24 10:07 PM
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Like here’s an idea, maybe try something other than physical looks. She could try to attract dude by having a personality, by showing her affection, being inviting, but nope. Unless they’re physically attracted they’re not worth it, much rather be a women going here own way. Then they have the gall to complain about being lonely!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/04/24 10:04 PM
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but also hates men for giving her attention, but also hates men for NOT giving her attention. Schrödinger's relationship?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/04/24 10:02 PM
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I've definitely noticed the difference of is men will gladly warn younger men of things they have to deal with whereas older women will seemingly want them to repeat the same mistakes And to follow up on my response from yesterday, as I've shared before my wife has a serious case of cancer, so of course I've thought about what I would do if the worst were to happen. I'm more than willing to admit my own faults that would likely hold me back in the dating market if I'd choose to partake in such a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/04/24 06:16 PM
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This sort of woman couldn't have made it more obvious that they leaned hard on "has vagina" for their sole leverage most of their life to the point they let any other skills atrophy if they ever had them to begin with. This reminds me of a story of a woman I know of, that I have shared here before... She's in her 40's now and has 2 kids by 2 different men - was married to the first man then broke up when the child was a toddler then the second was an oops. Obviously age and having 2 kids hasn't …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/04/24 06:11 PM
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I've definitely noticed the difference of is men will gladly warn younger men of things they have to deal with whereas older women will seemingly want them to repeat the same mistakes This is pretty much it. I would have much more respect for people like this if they took the appropriate responsibility for their actions: Took career too seriously - had to climb the corporate ladder to become boss babe bitch. Let her health go Spent too much time chasing after the wrong men - dead beats, not dati…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/04/24 02:31 PM
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The best part about that is he can give the crying, stinky baby back to the parents. LOL My mom and dad love having the grand kids around, but at their age it's getting harder to keep up!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/04/24 02:23 PM
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She may just not be a long-term planner. I've found that not a lot of women are. It's the whole left brain vs. right brain thing - men tend to be problem solvers and forward looking whereas women rely on feels.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/04/24 02:20 PM
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Again, here we have someone not taking responsibility for her role in this (not having kids). She is placing the blame 100% on others when the only constant is her.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/04/24 02:17 PM
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Her parents are well off, so maybe they did a cash infusion, to save the marriage and to keep their daughter from doing something even more stupid than divorcing a man who cared for her for 10 years. Wouldn't it be the reverse? In other words, withhold money because she left him which was a giant screw up? Generally speaking, it can be 6+ months to find work, even shitty work, depending on the field and region.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/04/24 05:36 PM
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Oh, and to use their own terms against them.... She has internalized fatphobia.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/04/24 01:39 PM
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My wife has cancer and I believe studies have shown that men are more likely to leave when the female half is sick. You'll see women howling about how terrible men are because of this. But, women are more likely to leave their partners when they fall on hard times financially, whether it's job loss, reduced income or the woman makes more than the man. I'll take "People Suck" for $200, Alex.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/04/24 12:02 PM
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en don't enjoy pursuing women aside from concerns that maybe a woman is too "easy" and therefore has a high body count. Men who have options simply don't need to put up with ANY games she throws at him hence why all the men who do aren't giving her tingles. "All the free samples they give away at the grocery store still leave me feeling hungry". Especially in the age demographic she's targeting. Something something "I'm too old for these shit tests, now get off my lawn." As I've stated here befo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/04/24 06:46 PM
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She still got matches despite all this. Women's dating woes are self inflicted. Because modern feminists and their allies never told her (and others like this) the truth. It has always been "you go grrrl."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/04/24 05:25 PM
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A 260lb, 39 year-old woman is still looking for a physically fit man who "makes a good living" 😂. Have you ever tried to tell these women they are delusional or the like? It's f*cking hilarious, because it always ends the same. It usually ends up with them using some sort of contorted logic about how that's who they are attracted too and God forbid they may have to sleep with someone who is not quite up to that level. Additionally, they will be more than willing to tell men that give them any so…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/04/24 05:22 PM
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Why is dating so hard ?! Makes my single brain cell hurt.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/24 08:19 PM
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They simply exaggerate any gripes or accomplishments they have while downplaying their own flaws. Projection.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/24 11:46 AM
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You're 30 lbs overweight, you expect a six-pack. Only being 30lb overweight is generous in most cases of this.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/24 11:42 AM
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My guess, from reading her post, is that she's still insufferable. That's one of the things people mean when they give the advice to "work on yourself." In other words, this woman needs a good humbling. For example, she mentions "making less money." The problem is that she's too focused on climbing the career ladder and playing with the big boys rather than being more agreeable. Also, if you have been in 2 marriages before and they both ended in divorce, that would be a huge turn off. Either you…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/24 11:39 AM
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But when it’s the opposite story, the guys MUST stay in the relationship and and continue to cuck themselves to the affair child and wife. Funny how that works. Rules for thee but not for me.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/24 11:26 AM
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You said, and I quote: Exactly. A lot of subtle hatred for adopted kids/step children in these comments. I was disagreeing with this. No one here hates adoption or step children. But it should be a free choice to accept them into your life. Edit: Y’all really can’t handle the fact that children you adopt still deserve to be loved, huh? Again, this has to be done as a free choice. Forcing someone to adopt, like in this situation, is a really shitty thing to do. The reason single mothers get shit …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/24 11:25 AM
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he has undoubtedly formed a bond with you, while it is still your choice to abandon him, you would undoubtedly be a piece of shit for doing so. You may still be a piece of shit but the mother is a much bigger one and most people would understand. you will cause your SON trauma that spans a lifetime. Again, as I said, if the mother thought it was okay to cheat on her husband, not tell him there was a possibility the child wasn't his and then wondered what the big deal was when he found out 5 year…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/24 11:17 AM
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Children who are not blood related are still your children. Again, that should be the individual man's choice to take on the responsibility of children that are not his, especially in cases like this. The mother sounds like a terrible piece of shit and I would question her parenting skills now...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/04/24 12:15 PM
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No we don't. The kids are the victims and didn't ask to be born into these situations (or at all). Modern feminism has told women to never settle and that you can have a career and children. This has resulted in these women loving themselves more than their children or partners.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/04/24 12:13 PM
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There was an episode of The Simpsons many years ago where they did a parody of Bill Gates and all the dot com shenanigans... Bill Gates said "I didn't get rich by writing checks!"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/04/24 04:59 PM
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Hence it is rational that you can find a 25yo man making 250k/yr. Some men in that bracket do, but its rare. And how much do you want to bet that most of these men are doing something illegal (like sell cocaine, heroine, etc.) or do something legal but morally questionable (like Only Fans). My guess, at least in my locale, is that you'd have to be in your mid-30's at a minimum to make a 6 figure salary on the up and up, let alone something more than $250K. But then, you'd have her complaining ho…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/04/24 04:56 PM
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Well, that's implied based off the rest of the profile.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/04/24 04:49 PM
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Do a lot of these women publicly announce their STI’s Yes, there's a non-trivial amount of women who announce this up front. I suppose this is better in some ways?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/04/24 04:47 PM
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There's a bit of nuance here I think people have a hard time explaining/understanding. The reason some people say the average women have an easier time getting relationships is that they are asked out, propositioned or whatever more than the average men. Simply going out on dates with men doesn't equate a relationship but it's simply more spins at the wheel.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:43 PM
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Men want to continue their lineage, not support some other random guy you fucked with. To be fair, some men wouldn't mind supporting these children. However, that is something that should be discussed up front, instead of being hidden for years.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/04/24 11:23 AM
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Plenty of men are emotionally whipped by women because of sexual and social deprivation. A man who hasn't gotten enough sex is like putty in the hands of a manipulative woman. This is why it is important for men to find a healthy way to work through this. For example, I'm going to draw a parallel from my life. My wife has stage 4 cancer and it first developed in her lady parts, so certain activities have been off the table for awhile for obvious reasons. One of the things I've had to work though…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/04/24 02:49 PM
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Pretty much. What I find sad is that society tells them that's okay. It's like, prepare to be lonely/pumped and dumped for the rest of your life then. The common trope is that "I don't want to have sex with someone I'm not attracted to." To which I respond, "Is there really nothing attractive about someone who is in the 3-8 range? That is hard to believe..."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/04/24 01:19 PM
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Because feminism told them to fight their biology and be like men - that they can sleep around almost consequence free because of contraception. And if the worst thing happens, you can just get it "taken care of." No one ever told these women that men are horny MF'ers and are more able to separate feelings from sex. And that these women aren't anything special - offering a man nothing more than a wet hole is not going to work out well.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/04/24 12:41 PM
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Another one that is relying too much on tingles and doesn't realize that at some point, love is a choice.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/04/24 12:31 PM
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"I bent my Wookie." I got into this sub because I was helping a friend or two out by reviewing their profiles and giving them advice because they were having issues. I told them I didn't think things were this bad, because back in my day, even a blind squirrel could find a nut once in awhile. They eventually showed me what was happening and I conducted a few "experiments" myself. It was astounding that very average/plain (or worse) looking girls were slobbering themselves to talk with good looki…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/04/24 12:28 PM
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Her parents must be very proud of her.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/04/24 10:40 AM

Sex and companionship is not a right like every man claims here, it's not charity, men are gotta raise their standards. Except, there's going to be a cap on how much someone can improve themselves, based on the same biology and also socio economic factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 03:21 PM

You're taking the 80/20 numbers too literally. The point is that often times, things might be over/under represented. For example, I once worked for a company that made most of it's revenue/profit from a small number of clients.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 03:19 PM
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DOS ain't done 'till Lotus won't run.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/04/24 04:42 PM
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She doesn't have youth or beauty on her side. Mid-30s means children are unlikely unless she already has some in tow. "Not fat" wins over "pretty face" almost every time. And in her mid 30s, the odds of losing and keeping off a significant amount of weight are very small. I know of a woman locally that has gained quite a bit of weight over the years, 2 kids and all. She's not that bad comparatively speaking but she basically has a clown face these days as well. I saw pictures of her when she was…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/03/24 04:11 PM
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Mama always said if everyone smells like shit, check the bottom of your shoes.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/03/24 04:07 PM
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It's more likely that this woman is insufferable, which is likely caused by #3, and is the final nail in the coffin along with #1 and #2.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/03/24 04:06 PM
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Rules for thee, not for me.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/03/24 04:04 PM
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when just about every good man would no longer want anything to do with you? They want nothing to do with them because they are likely paired off and happy in the first place! That's what makes them good men...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 11:03 AM
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Considering red pillers' disdain for women, it seems counterintuitive to seek advice from individuals who harbor such hostility towards you. I reject your premise that so called tradcons and Red Pillers have disdain for women in general. It's common to see tradcons and red pillers alike advising women to settle down as young as possible, be submissive and agreeable, and prioritize traditional roles over education This is usually in response to women, usually older, that are bitching about not fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:48 PM
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"just can't be attracted to someone" This is just the lamest excuse ever. Unless someone really lost the genetic lottery or have other poor life circumstances, most men (and women) aren't so repulsive that you can't find something to like about them. I directly linked (in a removed comment, sorry mods) to someone who was 4'11", weighed well over 200lb and had several mental and physical disabilities. Her face had not aged well and unfortunately, she did not live long enough to see her 31st birth…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/03/24 01:39 PM
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People aren't getting married as often these days as it's more socially acceptable to live together before marriage or even have children outside of wedlock. In other words, its more likely the people getting married place more value on it and less likely to get divorced in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 07:51 PM
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It's also the entitlement as she offers men literally nothing. Since she has a few extra pounds, she's not the prettiest girl and we all know that the first rule of feminism is to never make a man happy.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/24 07:48 PM
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There is no way her good friend would tell this woman simply wanting a man not living with parents is too high a standard unless this woman is literally bottom of the barrel herself. If she doesn't look like precious and live in the backwoods, she's simply lying about what she's really looking for and her friend knows the reality. The standard answer is basically, "be a somewhat functional adult," but we all know that means "be a somewhat functional adult who is good looking." Except, even then,…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/24 07:35 PM
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"I'd help him with his business." AKA "I'd get control of it when we divorce and run it into the ground"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/24 07:31 PM
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She literally doesn't even try to offer value. Like most women, she would be confused or even offended by the very question. That's what we learned during the whole "what do you bring to the table" thing - that meme was asking women to articulate their value, and all of them were offended by it. There are several clips floating around of Kevin Samuels (RIP) going asking women what they wanted in a man. Of course, they stated all the standard things: Job, Go Getter, Place, Car, Education and so o…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/03/24 06:40 PM
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Also 65% of SK women don’t want kinds. Then these women shouldn't expect a social safety net when they get older and can no longer work then. I look forward to the grandchild of Kim Jong Un annexing SK. Let us know how it goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 07:27 PM
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Theres also gender discrimination prevalent in the Korean job market, where women earn 31% less than their male counterparts, regardless of their marital or parental status Whenever someone brings up the "wage gap," it's so cringe. If women want to earn the same as men, go become an engineer or go into the trades and work as many hours as men. And don't get pregnant and take years off to raise kids then expect to come back at a higher salary/position.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 07:22 PM
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A woman can be fat and unattractive and still get by in life. She CANNOT be fat and unattractive AND a biggity bitch, too! This is what I keep saying. It's not so much that her weight is a concern, but it's her attitude that's a bigger problem. In other words, it's the old hot vs. crazy graph.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/03/24 07:13 PM
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is it wrong to generally refer to prisoners as criminals because one prisoner may not actually be a criminal? This is apt. People don't seem to understand that the corner cases/exceptions shouldn't be held up to make policy. If a woman who is in her 30's is not in some sort of LTR arrangement, it's going to raise some questions.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/03/24 06:36 PM
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Edit: and it's funny how they whine about being told to give someone that they aren't physically attracted to a chance while turning right around and insisting that men do that instead. Men get to have standards too, ladies. The reason men complain is that there are standards and then there are "standards." I think many men that are (below) average understand they aren't going to get the super model and that most women, unless they completely lost the genetic lottery, have some positive (physica…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/03/24 02:41 PM
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it’s also completely wild that the women they invite on these podcasts etc are unlike any woman i’ve associated with.. This is simply for clicks/ratings. It's like the man on the street thing where they will always show the dumbest people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:04 PM
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It's things like a woman saying women shouldn't vote, or the fact that she's single but tells married women how to act in their marriages. I find it hilarious that Pearl advises women to get together with men while they are young, but never took that advice herself or gave her own personal anecdote, like "This is how I think I messed up my life now I'm old and unhappy. Don't make the same mistakes I did kids!"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 11:40 AM
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Pretty much - there's his story, her story and then the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 05:10 PM
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If women date average men, they are "settling." Everyone who is not a 10/10, which is the vast majority of people, have to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 10:38 AM
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Nice whataboutism. But, this is called the Halo Effect. People here are simply pointing out bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 10:31 AM
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But attraction CAN be controlled, its a common myth that it cant, attraction fluctuates with age and is influenced by the mefia you're exposed too, the cultivation theory and mere exposure effect are perfect representation of how attraction can be molded based on the media you're exposed too People can likely de-program themselves if they want to, like most things in self improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:38 PM
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sapio sexual, demisexual, etc. These are just buzzwords so people don't sound shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:36 PM
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Most people agree that we can't control who we attracted to. If we could, men would make themselves attracted to ugly or overweight women as this would increase their chances of finding a partner. I think part of this is cultural, though. In the "good old days," curvy people were thought of as better because they had enough to eat. Also, your forgetting that an increasing number of people in first world countries are becoming overweight/obese. There are many reasons for this, some of which are o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:34 PM
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I'll try to phrase it in a different way than others. Men sometimes get annoyed that you seemingly enthusiastically gave all this so called hot and kinky sex to other men who ended up meaning nothing to you (and often times you knew it) and they just get the simple, vanilla stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 07:21 PM
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Sure, women are blessed with their intuition, their special gut instinct which must always be trusted whenever a man gives you the "ick", their infallible powers of judgement whenever a man is a creeper "probably a serial killer"-- women are far more insightful and detail-oriented than any man, you know? Ahh, but the hawt man? He bamboozled her! Good lord, who knew he'd been dealing black-market pills the whole time?! Who knew that those thirty holes in his wall were from his fist? Who really kn…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/03/24 02:45 PM
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Including "taking responsibility for their poor decisions choosing the wrong man", as women have access to support networks to help them walk away from his deadbeat ass. Except, the issue is that many women ignore the warning signs and still get married or have children with these deadbeats. Making sure that they can leave the deadbeats doesn't solve the whole problem - isn't the point of modern feminism making sure that women have equal access to education, careers, etc. so that they don't have…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 03:21 PM
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The incredibly virile father instantly revealed himself to be a yellow-belly and turned tail, leaving the poor, cherubically innocent newlywed almost-virgin in the lurch, upending her entire life. That terrible beast! Won't you, big strong noble gallant provider-type, step up and be a family man?? There was a thread yesterday in PPD about "why are women blamed for not vetting." Quite a few women don't seem to understand that both (a) some people might be genuinely bad and (b) that you need to be…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/03/24 02:36 PM
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What I find hilariously ironic is that women wanted equality with men. Okay you got that, you can have a career and be the primary bread winner and your husband can become Mr. Mom if you so choose. But that somehow is not good enough.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/03/24 02:29 PM
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I guarantee it. And it's not just having kids of his own that would cause him to be dumped, but a whole other laundry list of items - Doesn't make enough money, not attractive enough, not the right career, no degree/lower degree than she has, too chubby and so on.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/03/24 02:25 PM
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Of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:59 PM
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Sure, some are extremely good a hiding their intentions and most of us aren't equipped to deal with that. I'd argue that these people are less common then we're lead to believe. But, we used to have fathers and brothers advising their daughters and sisters of guys. You used to have to introduce your potential guy to your parents. We used to hear what they had to say - that's all patriarchy now. And people also dated within their social circles/neighborhood/church/etc. more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:53 PM
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No one, that's reasonable anyways, puts 100% of fault on women. Saying that a particular woman may have shown poor decision making is not putting all the blame on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:47 PM
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But, people (both men and women) are more willing to jump through hoops to justify being with attractive people, even if they are objectively terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:44 PM
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That gets your foot in the door most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 01:49 PM
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Go look up the Halo Effect and get back to us. But the TL;DR of it is people will generally give more attractive people the benefit of the doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 01:48 PM
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Again, it takes two to tango. Putting all the blame on one party may or may not be warranted.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 01:45 PM
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Never said they didn't. I'm pointing out that there's more to it than instant tingles.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 01:41 PM
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Women are people. They just need to take responsibility for their (in)actions just like everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 01:39 PM
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It means you're possibly vetting on the wrong attributes. If you're solely going after the best looking men, you're going to limit your choices. Someone may be less attractive but have better attributes that would lend itself to having an LTR. In other words, there's a possible trade off.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 01:37 PM
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Because, women often are left holding the bag, since they are the one's who get pregnant. With that privilege comes responsibility - maybe don't chase after the 10/10 guy when a 5/10 will do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 01:33 PM
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Yet at the same time, we hear guys complaining of woman’s high standards, so it’s a no win situation. It's not necessarily high standards, it's the wrong standards and both men and women are subject to the Halo Effect. For example, people say that "looks don't matter" and that they essentially just want a functional adult. But, they still are judging people on looks (i.e. gravitating towards the hottest person) and then wonder why things go sideways.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 01:31 PM
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It's like, the last 5 guys you dated just wanted sex? Well you got 5 more lined up...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 05:23 PM
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I want a man who has the same interests. I don't want to be trapped in a toxic relationship because as you lower your have everything else falls apart in your life. No one is saying that. When someone says "lower your standards," it's that you need to prioritize what's important vs. what's nice to have. For example, it sounds like you're religious and you want someone who shares your same values. If that is truly the most important thing, you might have to trade some on the looks department for …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 05:12 PM
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Sure. But the first step is actually having people interested in dating you. And that your expectations of people are reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 04:56 PM
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I argue this all the time too. And it's not settling, it's being realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 04:51 PM
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Have you ever tried online dating? Even the most unappealing women get swipes as long as they are in a populated area.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 04:45 PM
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This. People here treat attraction like it's a binary, when it's more of a spectrum. Folks want to hold out for a 10/10 when a 5/10 will do, especially when you yourself are a 4/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 04:44 PM
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If you aren’t getting matches it’s because you don’t bathe/wipe your ass/misogyny. You mean like being a functional adult?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 12:51 PM
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There is also the issue of women being told they need to lower their standards and force themselves to be with someone they are not attracted to. Except "attraction" usually isn't binary. People will have attributes that you will find attractive, and the more attributes that a person has will make them more attractive. The problem is when you're expecting someone to have most or all of the attributes you find attractive. This is compounded by the fact that others are looking for the same and you…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 06:40 PM
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But but but... He keeps leaving the toilet seat up!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/03/24 05:11 PM
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4 kids under 9 is the reason... Why would men want to get into that mess, especially when there are plenty of other women in their late 20's and early to mid 30's who don't have all that "baggage?" It doesn't matter how hawt you are or whatever reason you tell yourself you're a catch to sleep at night. It also makes men question your decision making - you married and had 4 kids with a guy and then broke up.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/03/24 05:10 PM

It's quite simple, they gravitate towards the same type of men in general. If each woman was unique in taste, you'd see more of an even distribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 12:48 PM
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Do you think that is fair? Why doesn't the man look back on his old self and go "No wonder I didn't attract women. I was a low SMV man. I worked myself up to her level instead of settling with a low SMV woman." Have you ever heard of the phrase "If you can't handle me at my worst, then you don't deserve me at my best?" The complaint is that many of these so called "low SMV" men are working at becoming better in areas they are deficient at and can't simply turn off the desire for companionship. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:06 PM

You're absolutely disregarding so much nuance that this just feels like a post with clear bad intentions Classic Lilith post.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 10:00 PM
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Do these people have no introspection? Women like this essentially become the men they want to marry then complain other men don't want to marry them.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/02/24 10:03 PM
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Because many women are passive and won't make the first move. Many men have been in the situation were they bite their tongue and don't "quickly" ask a woman out and it ends up burning them - the woman in question ends up going with someone else. So, it's time wasted.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 02:03 PM
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Why wouldn't she be?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:06 PM
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My standards are fine as I'm married and have been for quite some time. I had to figure out what I was willing to live with because I know no person would check of everything on my list.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:04 PM
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My own personal standards are fine, thank you. But to answer your question, it would be the proverbial neck beard wanting a 10/10 virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:00 PM
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Why would anyone want to intentionally and specifically use therapy to lower their standards? Because some people have unreasonable or unattainable standards, especially relative to what they, themselves offer a potential partner. For example... If you're looking for someone who makes 6 figures in an area where the median income is $40K so you can quit your barista job. If you're morbidly obese but want some Adonis/gym rat, yet you never go to the gym or work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:48 PM
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The way I’m talking about compatibility and its effects on attraction is not something you seem capable of understanding. Says the person who doesn't understand that some men wouldn't get the chance to show off their "compatibility" and "personality."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:31 PM

This is complete hokum. Someone who doesn't have "looks" will have to work 10x or 100x harder to get a woman to date him, simply because there isn't that instant attraction, which is based on looks. The only time "personality" or "compatibility" come into play is for an LTR. However, the halo effect kicks in often. Be honest with yourself: You or your friends are unlikely to give the short, obese, bald guy in the corner a chance even though he could be the most compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:26 PM
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It's not just the "sex" bit, it probably goes a bit father. She probably didn't spend enough time with him in the first place because of her parental obligations. That can be short circuited for a bit with being intimate. If she made time for him in the first place, the sex part may matter less. An anecdote... I went out on a couple of dates with a single mom when I was in college. It didn't last because it was a pain in the ass to try to make plans with her and it was much easier to make plans …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/02/24 07:55 PM
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I ain't no mathematician, but she did it at least 3 times if she birthed them babies.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/02/24 07:47 PM
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Or maybe-- hang on to your hat-- he just doesn't feel like being jerked-around and getting used for a bunch of free meals by a woman who has nothing to offer him at all, except for the sex that she won't willingly offer?? This is the problem that these women don't quite see. I can understand not wanting to be taken advantage of, like going on 3 dates then sleeping with someone then getting ghosted. Especially if you are a single parent and free time to date comes at a premium. But the problem is…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/02/24 07:37 PM
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And for her to say “all” men don’t reply. Maam that’s just a lie. I can tell you that for a fact. I'd venture that the top n% of men have the same problem [most] women have - they are bombarded by communications, so of course it's not going to seem like they are interested, even if they would otherwise be. I think I generally reply even if on second look I wonder why I right swiped and am not really interested - this is easy because women are so bad at all conversations and are actually the ones…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/12/23 02:43 PM
1

I remember this one time in high school where this one "popular" girl was complaining about how this homely girl in our class had a boyfriend that was in college, yet the popular girl was single and had no prospects. I felt like telling her the obvious: She's not an insufferable bitch like you are.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/12/23 08:30 PM
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I don't understand why I got down voted Because there are often stories like the one here - woman is serious with a man, makes him wait but is partaking in questionable behavior on the side. I don't think anyone has a problem if you learned your lesson and don't do this sort of thing anymore or never did it in the first place.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/10/23 07:06 PM
2

Well, men tend to be a lot hornier and DTF. In general of course.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/10/23 07:02 PM
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Because he's hot and she thinks she can "fix" him. People (both men and women) tend to do dumb things the hormones get racing. How many single moms are out there with dead beat dads?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:25 PM
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Plus, many singles don't have the time to deal with the clutter. Often it is perceived as "not caring."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:03 PM
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Here's the problem... Many of these women don't come out and say "I done some fucked up things in my life and this is why I give this advice." Instead, they play all coy and innocent which makes them look like hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 11:06 AM
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Because she's grifting?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 10:47 AM
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Well, "back in the day," they were probably killed by the invading army and then the women were taken by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 05:01 PM
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I believe there's historical evidence that women have mated at a higher rate than men for various reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 05:00 PM
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Wrong order, ma'am.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/10/23 03:40 PM
5

This corroborates what I heard as well and probably was the same lawyer. This lawyer made the point that prenups were especially common where one person had disproportionately more assets than the other. A smart lawyer could argue that the person with lesser assets couldn't afford legal council therefore felt strong armed into the agreement. For example, people move in together well before there's any legal agreements/protections, so if your husband to be presents a prenup, you would simply sign…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/10/23 03:18 PM
5

I still remember when the uni informed us (engineering students) that all women who graduated on time would get their student loans paid to promote women in STEM. I finished my undergrad degree in Computer Science during the dot com crash. Great time to be looking for software engineer roles. (sarcasm) I ended up staying on for a grad program at my school for obvious reasons. However, several of the female students I had graduated with were getting jobs faster then their male counterparts. A sim…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/09/23 06:41 PM
4

I don't get why everyone got their panties in a bunch when Trump's "grab 'em by the pussy" made the rounds. If you listened to the whole thing, he was basically saying that if you were a rich/powerful play boy, women would pretty much let you do whatever to them to get with you.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/09/23 06:31 PM
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And a baby
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/09/23 06:26 PM
3

But.. MEN SUCK Not just that, any man that may even remotely be interested might have a beer belly, but, you know she'll reject him even though that's the only thing that's wrong with him.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/09/23 05:32 PM
3

Yet she'll have the gall to reject any guy that might be balding or overweight/obese. Yeesh.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/09/23 05:31 PM
3

because his behaviour was an open secret in the entertainment industry and he knew he was going to have allegations against him, Then the people who knew the truth and keeping it under wraps should face some jail time as well, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:07 PM
3

Then the people who were keeping it under wraps should be charged with being an accessory to rape, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:05 PM
2

Because that’s not the case. There’s a million and 1 reason why you are not getting mat It's a pretty weak one, if you ask me. I bet you'd find a stronger correlation with single parent households or households with poor parenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 01:16 PM
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Because one question it raises is ulterior motives/ If your GF was having kinky sex with you before the wedding then stopped, all else remaining the same, you have to wonder if it was just to get something you wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 04:11 PM
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It depends on what we're talking about and the context. For example, if a woman did anal with someone for two seconds, found it to be painful, it was with a FWB and it was the only time it was ever attempted and would prefer not to do it again, that's one thing. It becomes a bit more problematic if she didn't necessarily enjoy it but did it anyways to please her partner once a month but then won't do it with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 09:03 PM
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They are in jail because muh patriarchy and ACAB.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/09/23 01:49 PM
5

One honestly struggles to comprehend the amount of time and money that guys have wasted because of this fallacy, it needs to be overturned. Many men have been of the verge of self deleting or actually have gone through with it on false hopes like this. I know it's tough because young men have lots of hormones, but if I could go back and tell myself one thing, it would be to not be fooled.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/09/23 01:48 PM
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I don't know if I said this before... But, this is the biggest piece of hypocrisy. It's not like she made a one off mistake and then had an established history of self control. The literal buns haven't even finished baking yet and she's looking for the next guy and going to make him suffer.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/09/23 01:43 PM
1

better off staying unmarried than to comply with a single demand these lunatics are making. "We don't negotiate with terrorists."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/09/23 03:28 PM
0

If you aren't serious about staying with the father and don't have a plan to personally provide for them, then there definitely is something wrong with having kids. Letting kids grow up in poverty or without both parents is basically child abuse.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/09/23 03:26 PM
0

Whoosh..... Thank about what you replied to. You may want to re-check that, unless there's a place where rape is legal.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/09/23 03:22 PM
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Okay, a couple of thoughts - beating a dead horse here. First, a man around her age will have plenty of "options" and not have children. Second, where's the humility? Instead of admitting she messed up and not date until the kids are older, it's men that have to "man up" and support us!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/08/23 02:26 PM
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Never underestimate people's ability to justify their own bad behaviors while condemning those same bad behaviors in others. Stupid decisions are stupid decisions. These people need a big dose of humility.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/08/23 02:12 PM
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"Christian Conservative" The kids say otherwise.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/08/23 02:09 PM
1

Again, at some point, who cares what other people think?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:45 PM

Of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:42 PM
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Sure, I don't disagree, there's some things men don't care about as much as women like fashion. That may be something women have to get over, in general. But other things like trying to stay in shape or addressing social awkwardness has clear personal benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 10:35 AM

The majority of comments I see from men on this sub are shit like “attractive guys can get away with anything“ or “women will put up with abuse if the guy’s good looking enough“ Because, it's been shown in research that there is such a thing as "pretty privilege," in that so called better looking people have more luck in finding jobs, friends and what not. You might want to look the Halo Effect. The issue these men are pointing out is that being attractive alone does not make a successful relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 10:32 AM
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Here's the thing that help me and improved my overall mental health - you need a bit of a mindset change. It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. Self improvement should be more about yourself than any woman/women, especially when a lot of them act like entitled middle schoolers nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 10:09 AM
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It's the perfectly good well-groomed guy in the middle who she "just didn't feel a spark with" that she can't explain or give any advice for. This is what folks don't seem to understand - they man in question may check enough of the boxes someone has, or at least trending in a positive direction but there's a bit of randomness involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 06:43 PM
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If I could jump in, I've seen women reject guys because he just didn't "give her the tingles" if you know what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 08:33 PM
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I have a saying that I'm now a semi well adjusted adult. If I did something wrong growing up, I hope the police got me first, not my parents.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/08/23 08:17 PM
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There is no large percentage of men who don't get into relationships or have sex. You might want to look up the GSS survey.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 08:00 PM
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Men and women have options already, they just don't have the exact options they want. If people as a whole don't want to put in the work then they won't get what they're after. FTFY It's really straightforward. If you spend all your time complaining about not being able to get a woman partner then complaining about the ones who do want you then you're going to stay either alone or miserable 🤷‍♀️. If you improve, the level of people you attract improves too. FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 01:22 PM
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You're missing the point. You tell men to get better, which will mean they should have more options or better options. It is not a guarantee, so why should men put in the work? (Yes, I know there are other reasons, but we're talking about finding a long term partner.)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 01:15 PM
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It means that if they put in the extra effort, are the women that they supposedly will get be worth it? For example, if I'm going to lose weight to get to a healthy BMI, get credentials to get a better job and actually get the job, have my own place and so on, will the only women that will want to be with me the proverbial obese, green haired, tatted/pierced woman who is intolerable to be around?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:55 PM
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No, but it in general, it matters less for women then men. For example, I've known women who barely made it through school, were still emotionally immature, lived with parents, worked dead end jobs, etc. but still hauled in decent looking engineers. Additionally, you can't simply look at someone and automatically assume they do not take care of themselves, physically at least. I know of someone who is overweight, but has had arthritic knees since she was a child (it was likely a genetic componen…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:01 PM
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You're essentially correct. If everyone was the best version of themselves, there still would be winners and losers. I'm not saying don't try. But simply telling people to go to therapy, get ripped and a better job is not the solution they think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 11:36 AM
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And what's the ROI of men getting better?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 11:32 AM
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There is no PROBLEM in some men not getting the amount of sex they would like to get. Don't get me wrong, no one is owed sex, relationships or anything else, but what happens when a large percentage of men check out of society because they feel like they have nothing to live for? Can you see that this might cause some problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 11:28 AM
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Because, biology. It was 50% his and even if unintended, a man or couple could decide to keep it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 09:55 PM
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Also, what a lot of people don't realize is if we take the "parasite" to the logical end, what about: Once the baby is born, it is not self sufficient for years and requires resources from the parents/wider community. People who are severely disabled from illness, accidents, old age, etc. People receiving social welfare from the government who eventually take more out of the system than they ever put in.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 09:04 PM
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This is not related but why to men get mad if a woman gets an abortion? Obviously y’all don’t agree on abortion or have the same goals so why are you not happy you didn’t end up with a lifetime commitment with someone you don’t align with? Because, in many places in the west, the man has no say in abortion but the woman can turn around and demand child support. If pursed hard enough, and the man doesn't pay, he can even end up in jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 08:59 PM
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Some also do not have access to abortion in their state or it’s too late when they find out Again, as I have alluded to in other posts, nothing is stopping a woman (and man) from using multiple forms of birth control. If a woman is sexually active, she should have a clue whether she's pregnant or not, especially if she feels she is not ready for one and in a state with a short window of illegal abortion. Are women really this dumb or can't control their urges?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 08:55 PM
1

And....?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 08:35 PM
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I wouldn't make the argument that Lillith often does in claiming sex isn't a need on any level, because it can be a deep emotional need tied to the physical urge which tends to mean a person is called to marriage, however you're absolutely correct that it isn't a right that anyone owes anyone because even married couples are entitled to decline each other's sexual advances within reason. My response there was a bit tongue and cheek to an extent as it gets parroted around here quite a bit. You ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 11:40 AM
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I find it interesting how you claim to not endorse deadbeat dads and yet you think taking responsibility is abortion instead of self-control. You even specifically handwave away the pro-life stance and you urge all women in less-than-ideal situations to get abortions if they don't want deadbeat dads. How about men and women both take personal responsibility by not sleeping around? But you apparently ain't ready for that conversation, because you'd rather predominantly blame the mothers who find …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 10:40 AM
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It's a significant barrier to entry.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 11:45 AM
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I’ve seen men dump women or question their relationship because the woman wouldn’t fuck him in the eight weeks it’s recommended to not have sex after giving birth to avoid getting a horrific infection, because she didn’t want him sexting and paying hundreds of dollars out of their shared account each month for ‘special requests’ from cam girls, because she wouldn’t tolerate his refusal to wipe his own ass because he thought it was gay to touch himself there, and any number of other utterly fucke…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:31 PM
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Except, that's not the point /u/kukkle1111 is making. Attractiveness doesn't make anyone a good or a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 10:38 AM
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Incels are rude and judgemental and call women terrible names. Not all Incels are rude and judgemental, but put yourself into their shoes for a second. If you were bullied, ignored, etc. despite generally minding your own business and doing things "by the book" your whole life, don't you think you'd harbor negative opinions about those people?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 12:44 PM
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, and she doesn't mention "her part" in why a realtionship failed. And then they vent about it on the internet or in RL, To be fair, this is not limited to either gender - there's 3 stories: his story, her story and then the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 12:23 PM
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No one owes you a date, relationship or any stuff. Get over yourself.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/07/23 12:16 PM
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You are correct. Even children that are as young as 1 can be well behaved, even more so than kids much older than them. I have "friends" that have a son and I remember going out with the 3 of them way back when. I remember being horrified and embarrassed of his behavior.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/07/23 12:14 PM
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Maybe she should have thought about that before fucking. But mUh TiNgLeS
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/07/23 12:10 PM
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One of the most powerful, if not the most powerful carrot, you can dangle in front of him that has been hardcoded through thousands of years of evolution I might add. Not only that, it's worse. Average men are regularly told they are misogynists, rapists, etc. when they would do no such thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 08:16 PM
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I was on Twitter Spaces this morning and someone brought up a good point. The reason that people like Andrew Tate and his brother are popular, despite at best being clowns, is that they don't tell men they are literal POS misogynists and whatever else you hear the talking heads say. What do you think is going to happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 08:11 PM
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Especially when you are younger. I "dated" a single mom during my last term as an undergrad. I eventually gave up because I could go out drinking with my other friends (she was more than welcome to come) whenever we felt like it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/07/23 06:34 PM
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Exactly. A lot of these women shouldn't be dating until the children are all grown up and independent.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/07/23 01:28 PM
21

Also, this you? Call the burn unit at the local hospital.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/07/23 01:27 PM
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It sounds like you have bigger problems in your life than trying to find a man/dating. This is what you signed up for when you became a single mom. Also, it is highly unlikely that you would date a single man who was having the similar financial issues as you.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/07/23 01:25 PM
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I will never have because men constantly try to sexually assault me. Sounds like you might need therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 01:42 PM
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A couple of random thoughts. It's the way you do it. Straight up ghosting/blocking with no or little explanation. This is middle school behavior. It's also because when one gets an explanation, it often seems subjective or random, like you aren't "feeling" it. In other words, it's like you have to do the Jedi Mind Trick to get additional dates. I've seen instances where very average or below average looking women complain about men not wanting them, being ghosted, bad luck, etc. but then turn ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 01:35 PM
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Uber red flags No pun intended
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/06/23 04:59 PM
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We all know full well that if a guy offers all this but looks like a nerd he won’t even get a chance. That's the quiet part that she didn't say out loud but we all know this is the pre-req to a date. It would be funny as hell if the next video she makes is how all the men who ask her out are "creepy."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/06/23 04:59 PM
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Why do you think she's a single mom? lol
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/06/23 04:55 PM
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It's not necessarily her weight (that's obviously a problem) but it's her attitude regarding it - that she can compete with women who are objectively more attractive than her.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/06/23 10:37 PM
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There were at least 2 commenters there that pointed out the obvious: Would she date a man that had the same BMI as her? The reason she is likely getting rejected is that she is going after men who are at a significantly healthier BMI. As such, they may have more options. If she really wants to get into an LTR, she may have to reconsider this.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/06/23 10:33 PM
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With all of the women chiming in to say they'd never have a man take care of them or they never see this happen, One has to look no farther than all the online dating profiles that say a man should have a job, his own car/place, etc. The irony is some of these women work min wage jobs or not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:46 PM
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I tend to be more forgiving than some here regarding someone's weight (but can understand why some people are turned off by it). However, the whole 3 kids with 3 fathers and the HSV thing is a deal breaker. It seriously makes me question her intelligence, decision making and impulse control.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/06/23 02:41 PM
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How many men want to chance HSV? If you did and ended up catching it, you'd just reinforce whatever bias women have in future relationships that "men are pigs and can't control their desires."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/06/23 02:36 PM
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I don't even think those women even get a cold shoulder. They don't see any single men in the congregation anymore. And the single men that are there end up getting the cold shoulder. I remember several years ago in my early to mid 20's hanging out with a young adult ministry. There were two single women that would show up consistently and I once over heard one of them telling someone else that she was talking with a priest about how "there's no good men in church anymore" as she and this other …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/06/23 02:34 PM
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I could also show two paintings to a dozen people, and could get most of them to agree that one painting is beautiful and the other painting is ugly. This is what people don't understand when the spout off about subjectivity. In aggregate, some people are going to be be considered more attractive than others by various metrics.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 12:33 PM
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The delusion of the Rpillers is that it is a number that can be precisely quantified. It isn't. To be fair, it can be precisely quantified. Some men/women are going to have more interest than others and this manifests in several ways. I can ask how many different people someone went on dates with in the past year. Someone who is more attractive will likely have a higher number.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 12:24 PM
1

I would rate 70+ Sylvester Stallone more like a 5.5. 70+ year old Sylvester Stallone could still kick all of our asses.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:16 PM
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None of them get that. It's so simple: What is it about marrying you that will make my life better? That's the key that none of these people get. Anyone worth a damn (i.e. scoring high on her marketing "plan") would likely have other options. Oh, and even if someone that most/all of her criteria, she would still reject them because she "isn't feeling it."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/06/23 09:03 PM
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How much you wanna bet the "marketing plan" goes out the window after she meets the first chad?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/06/23 08:48 PM

The #1 reason is that younger woman are simply in general much more fit and much more attractive. There's also practical considerations, younger women tend not to have children from previous relationships that unfortunately failed. This tends to be more true if the man has no children of his own.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 04:22 PM
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There are plenty of women out there who "love" their partner but aren't attracted to them. That's how a lot of relationships fail. AKA Dead Bedroom
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 04:18 PM
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One thing I find common in many of these stories is that the woman went with the person that gave them immediate tingles. I can come up with a number of personal anecdotes as well that fall in line. But tingles don't make basis for a stable long term relationship.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/06/23 12:34 PM
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Pretty sure the majority of us aren’t demanding a tall handsome billionaire. But just because we are “ugly women” it doesn’t mean we should accept any man just because. No one is saying you should accept any man (or woman). The problem people generally point out is that someone could check all of your boxes, be generally nice and respectful, but then you reject them because you aren't "feeling it" which is completely subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:06 AM
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Nobody who is being intellectually honest thinks they would take any man. But their standards should change if finding a partner is an important goal for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:57 PM
1

You said the wall is not a thing. The wall is basically saying people are less attractive and fertile as they age.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:45 PM
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So, you're telling us that people (both men and women) grow in attractiveness as they age? I'm obviously not talking about children, but to say you were as hot and tight at 50 as you were at 21 is an obvious lie for the vast majority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:29 PM
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If she didn't decide to have a kid with deadbeat asshole, at age 18, then this all would have been perfectly reversible. That's what I thought, too. Bob may have given her a chance if it wasn't for the kid. I mean, we've all dated losers but some of us are smart enough not to copulate with them.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/06/23 08:34 PM
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As Captain Picard once stated, you can even do all the right things and still lose.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/06/23 08:18 PM
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It’s pretty clear that all men women care about is looks. FTFY.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 07:25 PM
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They may stretch the truth/embellish certain things and leave things out. For example, if you got fired from a job, you aren't going to be completely honest about why you left your last job and why you are looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 11:44 AM
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Some men are so desperate and lonely. What would blow your mind even more: she will likely reject many of the men that will reach out to her. Like she has any "negotiating power" if you know what I mean.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/05/23 01:35 PM
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but hopefully fewer Especially at 27. There's still a large population of women with no kids out there at that age.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/05/23 01:33 PM
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Geez, don't even wait 'till it's out of the oven....
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/05/23 01:30 PM
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Maybe he has nephews... I spoil the hell out of my niece and nephew (and my sister is pregnant with #3). No one else's kids, other than my own (don't have any), would be that important.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/05/23 01:29 PM
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But there’s more to just looks. This is just BS. Looks get you in the door for most people, men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 06:23 PM
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These online groups do not demonstrate this in any way. Incorrect. Women are willing to go out with these men on some level, that's why they are asking these groups. It is OP's contention that the if women looked outside of the top n men maybe this would be less of a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 06:21 PM
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There's a few issues. Most women don't offer enough to keep someone interested. The FDS rule is selectively applied, make the LTR men wait but if you happen to find someone who is not LTR material, you don't have to make them wait. In other words, the rule should be equally applied to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:42 PM
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I'd argue that most people have some sort of sex drive and that not properly dealing with is a detriment to one's mental well being. It may not be as important as food, but let's not pretend that if someone's desire's in this area aren't being met that it doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 07:38 PM
1

Outliers exist. I bet a high percentage of men are not this guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 07:32 PM
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What I have found is that modern Christianity has perverted the Gospel in that it conveniently forgets that the consequences of our poor choices don't go away just because you "found God" or whatever. If I were this woman, I wouldn't be bragging about her past or how she changed. I'd also say if she was truly sorry, she would not date right away.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/04/23 06:29 PM
1

Having women attend college and preferring people to have more traditional relationships/roles is not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 02:01 PM
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I don't think that's the issue. It's okay to make mistakes, but at some point, if she's serious about finding an LTR, she would stop sleeping with men she hasn't properly vetted. Additionally, just because a really hot guy (or guys) just used her to get off, doesn't mean that they are going to be willing to wife her up. In other words, she's setting unreasonable expectations based on the poor behavior of a few.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 02:53 PM
1

To play Devil's Advocate (again). I agree with the critique that it seems like the Red Pill is hypocritical when it says to find a so called inexperienced women but turns around and says that she should be willing to shag you within the first 3 dates or whatever. But, like with a lot of these sort of "rules" that everyone has, it's important to consider the context behind them. The first question I would have is if she's currently doing this sort of behavior? I don't need to know a full history,…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 10:49 AM
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Here's one thing I find hypocritical of many of the "couples" that practice this: They have a rule where they aren't allowed to bring any if their other partners home. Because of that, I just view it as nothing more than sanctioned cheating.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/04/23 03:59 PM
1

Of course. I totally wish men would stop simping over women they have no chance with or with women that they aren't serious about getting into an LTR with. It doesn't lead to positive outcomes for anyone, men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 02:16 PM
1

Men create the demand for women selling themselves on social media. To play Devils Advocate, women are more than willing in many cases to meet said demand. And I'd go as far as saying they enjoy the dopamine hit they get from the simping. I vaguely remember reading studies/articles on how social media in particular preys on this. Again, I'm not trying to let men off the hook, but I'm trying to say it's more of a shade of gray. It could also be like the chicken and the egg.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:18 PM
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What amounts to pity sex is not kindness and is morally problematic and doesn't solve the base problems. Both genders should be working to improve themselves have a basic respect for each other and be open minded on who to date. That would go a lot farther.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 12:27 PM
2

Simple, fear/rejection/humiliation/etc. Why not go after the best option? I'm not saying it's right for men, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:11 PM
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Humans desire companionship and someone would like to get to know you better. Oh my, how terrible! Secondly, your decisions/actions have consequences. You lose the right to complain if you're old, want a relationship and still single and you continually reject men over what can be considered irrelevant criteria. Maybe you don't like his sense of style, but if that's the worst thing about him, that's easily fixable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:06 PM
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I do sometimes see women saying they greatly prefer female friends, but it is incredibly rare to see a woman telling other women online "your guyfriends are utterly useless, you should only allow men into your life if you're gonna fuck them". To be fair, if you have a friend of the gender(s) you're attracted to, there's always a chance that someone could have romantic feelings for the other, and those feelings not be reciprocated.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:58 PM
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It's not going to fix all problems overnight. The only people who it would help is the ones on the fringe: meaning that the only thing holding them back is their weight. There's always going to be a percentage of people who aren't genetically gifted.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 04:16 PM
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This is the issue with these types of things. There's quite a difference between cheating or actual abuse and someone being socially awkward. Sometimes, these groups devolve into talking about the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 01:54 PM
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So, it behooves you to find a man that can and will support you. And it doesn't give carte blanche to treat him like dirt either.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 12:00 PM
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Yet, women are willing participants in putting out on the first date even if they prefer not to. So, of course some men are going to try.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 11:57 AM
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Sorry, but no.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 11:54 AM
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Men would like quick sex because that’s what women do with the men they like. Simple as that, no need to compose a communist manifesto. This is pretty much Occam's Razor - that some men, rightly or wrongly, sometimes get bent out of shape when a woman has a history of sleeping with men after a short period of time and the particular man in question didn't. It's the classic "If I'm boyfriend material, why haven't we done something yet, but you did things with a rando in the bathroom of a club and…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 09:16 PM
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s all the other “incel” qualities that would disqualify a man, and not every virgin adult male has incel qualities. To me, those qualities include all the characteristics of sexual undesirability + victim mindset + laziness/unwillingness to improve himself. You're falling into a common trap and conflating things like laziness with being an incel. [To be clear, I'm not picking on you specifically.] Incel is short for "Involuntary Celebate" which literally means that someone has attributes that ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 01:16 PM
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Choices aren’t made in a vacuum. There’s clearly something fishy when the sex industry has almost servers being women and almost all clients being men. You underestimate the male sex drive and the fact that if one needs money to eat, it's a quick/easy way to get cash. Simple economics, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 01:00 PM
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I have not seen these unreasonable people you speak of here. If they are here, they are a small minority of posters/posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:33 PM
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Notice how I didn’t say the severity, it’s usually related to whether or not rape even occurred. What many men point out is they want hard evidence that a rape occurred, like a police report, investigation, etc. shortly after the incident supposedly happened. In other words, if a woman regrets sleeping with a man because he he refuses to return her calls and calls it rape, that's not really rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:30 PM
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Wrong. Guys desire sex so much that in the olden days we would marry you to get sex. For most of the male population to get sex, (Chad is always the exception. Throughout history, Chad is gonna Chad) we had to marry you. Now the floodgates are opened. Many guys, even upper tier Betas are finding out they can get laid and not have to commit. I've heard people postulate that hormonal birth control was the best thing to happen to top tier men. They could sleep around and not have to face consequenc…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/11/22 07:33 PM
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And can probably get women 10 years younger.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/11/22 07:27 PM
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like domestic abuse Whenever someone claims this, I have to roll my eyes.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/11/22 07:27 PM
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Back in my younger days when I was dating even I knew enough to know these women's were trouble. For example, I tried once to date a single mom in college. I invited her to a house party a week before it was supposed to happen. Of course she flaked because of issues with the kid and babysitting. Her loss.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/11/22 07:22 PM
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Women don't "love" anybody, except maybe their children, They don't love their children. If they did, there wouldn't be so many single moms because (a) they would have picked the right guys to have babies with in the first place and (b) would have stuck around with the guy until the child/children have all grown up. I would argue that they love themselves more than anyone else - that's why they hooked up with Chad in the first place and is no longer with him.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/11/22 07:18 PM
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Again, what does she offer me for having a home, being financially stable and having a daughter that isn't mine? A lot of these are phrased as "I want/need" without stating what a potential partner will get out of this.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/11/22 07:12 PM
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Again, this is over played. Everyone has their ceiling which is generally determined by genetics and socio-economics. If a guy has a nerdy face, he can lose all the weight in the world and get some muscles, become an engineer and be a 5 at best. I'm not saying not to try, I'm just being realistic.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/11/22 01:18 PM
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I have been thinking a lot lately and I think it has to do a lot with issues that have been presented in post modern society.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/11/22 01:12 PM
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Where many many men simply have no choices to begin with. Yes, they might be able to change this but that's another conversation. Everyone (both men and women) have a ceiling. It's simple genetics and is compounded by socio-economic factors.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/11/22 01:00 PM
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This is what a lot of women I've talked to about the subject don't understand. Women will complain that they have too much attention from men and a good percentage are just looking to get their you know whats serviced. I usually tell them at least you're getting that far to find that out.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/11/22 12:42 PM
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Or that all incels hate women. Pointing out observations is not hate.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/11/22 12:33 PM
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This is debatable to some extent. You aren't going to die in a week if you don't have sex. But, the argument is that in order to be a well rounded, mentally healthy person, people generally need friends, socializing, intimacy, etc. At the macro level, it wouldn't be good if we told everyone to deny their desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 12:54 PM
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People can't help who they are attracted to. They shouldn't date people they don't want, regardless of how petty the reason. Then people, regardless of gender, shouldn't complain about being lonely and lacking intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 12:36 PM
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I don't even see it as an "issue" in the sense that it's something society ought to solve. Well, it's a problem for society when half of the population is male and a large chunk of them check out so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 12:32 PM
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Of course. But you act like what people are asking for is something terrible in the first place. God forbid someone wants to spend time with you. The horror!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:34 PM
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Here's the thing. Are you going to get rid of your husband once he gets old/fat/sick/etc.? Generally people get less attractive as they age, so it's likely inevitable that you won't find your husband physically attractive. What then? CC: /u/Jupitersjunky
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 02:08 PM
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You do realize relationships and sex are part of living a healthy and fulfilling life, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:57 PM
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That's not necessarily being entitled, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 04:13 PM
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Where on PPD are men saying they are entitled to women's bodies and time?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 01:06 PM
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Are you blind?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 12:29 PM
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But I think the problem is that there's potentially a significant overlap of women that OP is referring to and women that complain about being lonely, can't find a [good] man and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 12:14 PM
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You do realize that men and women are wired differently in regards to sex? I'm not advocating poor behavior but it's not true hypocrisy either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:12 PM
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It's simple: there's always going to be a bottom tier of something. For example, in the West, we currently have a weight/obesity problem. If all the overweight people got down to a healthy BMI, some other variable(s) would be used to determine who was more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 03:28 PM
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Because there are simps willing to pay for the baby sitter in hopes to get a little action.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/11/22 02:38 PM
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And they will back date their "consultancy" to whenever they got shit canned.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/11/22 02:35 PM
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I used to live in SoCal and it seemed like "life coach" was what you said you did when your model / actress / influencer career failed and you needed to do something that didn't require any actual skills or experience on your resume. When you can't do, teach.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/11/22 02:34 PM
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Most women's personalities are as bland as bathroom tiles. When I was actually dating eons ago, I'd guesstimate that at least 75% of the women I dated had the personality of a rock to the point where it made me look like a blabbermouth. This is coming from someone who has an avoidant personality disorder.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/11/22 10:09 PM
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Even if she got married or LTR'ed up in her 20's/early 30's, she was probably insufferable as hell and got sent back to square one. I know plenty of women like that.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/11/22 10:05 PM
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What these women don't realize is that you can't undo billions of years of evolution in 1-3 generations no matter how hard you try.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/11/22 10:02 PM
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Women's year 41 usually looks a lot like women's year 39. She's too old to change. Can't teach an old bitch new tricks. Pun intended.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/11/22 10:01 PM
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Here's the whole irony in what these women want. All of that stuff is superficial and can be gone in an instant. Beauty is only skin deep and you can easily lose it all (money, looks, status, etc.). The one thing most men I've met are looking for is she insufferable or not. If she's coming into the relationship with a shitload of debt from her worthless women studies degree and untreated mental illness, that qualifies as a yes.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/11/22 09:58 PM
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Yes and no. People generally get less attractive as they age. You can push it off but father time eventually catches up with you and has the last laugh. The problem people are pointing out is that a 24 year old woman is going to have more options than a 35 year old woman. The 35 year old woman is going to have to either adjust her expectations or realize that the person she is looking for is rare and likely has other options. So she has to adapt or come to the fact that she will likely be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 06:26 PM
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Correct. My response was in reference to your second sentence: And being sexually compatible doesn't ensure any other compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 11:37 AM
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You're missing the point. People here are agreeing that some men are dirt bags. What OP points out is that sometimes these men don't have to change because they are being rewarded for their poor behavior by women staying with them. In other words, they don't have the incentive to change. Humans are really lazy sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 11:35 AM
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The contention is that women (and men) will put up with a lot of crap if their partner is attractive, wealthy, high status, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 11:29 AM
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What's the old saying? Sex doesn't make the relationship but certainly can kill it or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 11:07 AM
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I don’t understand the RP thing of policing who women should and shouldn’t date just to even out the playing field. You really want to date a woman that doesn’t want to be dating you, just for the sake of evening things out? No one is saying that, or at least anyone honest. People are simply making an observation that there's a bit of hypocrisy when women claim they are "modern" by rejecting traditional gender roles and then won't adjust their standards. In other words, you have women becoming d…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 11:54 AM
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Hating women isn't a requirement to be an incel. Incel means "Involuntary Celibate." There may be many reasons why someone is - one of them is overt misogyny. All squares are rectangles. But not all rectangles are squares.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 06:33 PM
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It comes from the GSS studies that have shown a surprising amount (like a quarter or a third) of young men haven't had sex in the past year. This number has risen over the years, and is greater than their female counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 07:09 PM
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Didn't Bezos take money from the CIA or DOD or do I have him confused with someone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 05:11 PM
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That said, we don’t really know what was going on. Their marriage could have turned into a non sexual partnership and he regularly wanted sex and she turned him down. Or, he could have been so married to his work she wanted to leave anyway. I came here to share these same sentiments. We don't know what happened behind closed doors and both of them can be in the wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 05:06 PM
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She doesn't have to do all that, all she has to do is say "hey, I like you, maybe we could be good together, would you like to go for a drink and have a chat?" I think it's simpler than that. I think many men just need to be hit on the head, if you know what I mean. Like, they want women to make it more clear that if they asked them out, the woman would say yes. I remember years ago when I studied abroad, one of the locals in one of my classes "liked" me and it didn't become obvious until the la…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 11:53 AM
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Men need to stop feeling they're owed some version of women. It will be better for them to stop thinking this. So, men should not desire relationships with others?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 04:39 PM
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But when it came down to it, the endless lockdowns and lack of any light at the end of the tunnel just made me give up, hard. I'm basically back to where I started before I put in all that effort, because I couldn't see when or if any of it would ever pay off. I think this illustrates something important that people miss. Sometimes, there's other factor's outside of one's control that will cap someone's success. Stuff like socioeconomic status, genetics and personal history can't be overcome or …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 12:31 PM
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Again, it's not limited to stuff you see in porn and there's a wide variety of things in porn anyways. The point is that there are things that people find uncomfortable, painful, taboo, etc. It could be simple things like oral to more complex topics on how rough one likes it. To play Devil's Advocate: It may not be a bad thing to try/do things in bed that may make you uncomfortable, within reason of course. Is it possible that a reason people cheat or watch porn is because their partners aren't …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 12:19 PM
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I've heard women say they don't like giving oral because it's "gross." But, do you think all men like giving oral to a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 12:00 PM
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It can encourage men to be shit lovers because they want their gf's to copy extreme acts they see in porn. A lot of stuff regular women either can't physically do, or won't / don't want to do gets normalized. An interesting observation: Women complain that porn encourages men to want things they can't/won't do. Then women complain men are bad lovers. Have you ever thought that the things you want a man do to you to get you off he can't/won't do for the same reasons you can't/won't do things?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:55 AM
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And I have known many women who are too timid and embarrassed to have adult conversations about what they like or don't like or to explore their own bodies. Sometimes, porn isn't the primary problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:46 AM
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People are always emphasizing how men aren't entitled to sex and relationships and attraction can't be forced, so what else is there for undesirable men other then porn? This is another area where I think people lack empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:31 AM
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I don't think it's an accident so many men are uncoupled or virgins and porn is at an all time high. This is a bit of a paradox/death spiral sort of thing. Men watch porn because they don't have access to women in the flesh for whatever reason. Then porn messes with them and causes them to ruin their chances with a women. Then they continue to watch porn because they are alone. The cycle continues. This is one area I don't think we have empathy for each other and the struggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:24 AM
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I also never deny him sex. I truly believe that a husband and wife never should deny sex I think it's not just denying your partner sex all together, but it's also being open minded and be willing to try/do things you might not like. I'm not saying to keep doing something if it's painful or dangerous, but part of the meme is that people end up just having starfish sex and it ends up feeling like a chore.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:05 AM
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I think people on both sides of this wall debate take things too literally. The point is that attractiveness/fertility/health generally is inversely proportional with age. You don't get hit with the ugly stick at 30, but it's a slow march.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:21 PM
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Some guy: “Look at her, choosing to be single and not wanting MY pity fuck?! Younger women are better! You hear me you picky old baggage hoe!” Yeah, I'm a guy and the OP kind of botched this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:02 PM
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This is what the OP is trying to point out and didn't say it. If you have high standards and understand that not many people can meet them and are okay with that, fine. It becomes a problem when someone wants companionship but has (perceived) road blocks - is getting older has children (potentially from different partners), debt and so on but then turning around and saying someone has to be Mr/Ms Perfect to be with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 09:59 PM
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Sure, but many men who might be average or below know that most women will say no to them. So, sometimes women have to be a little more explicit and let them know they are interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 03:10 PM
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It is kind of an aggressive question. I would definitely feel a little weird if I were asked that on a date. But I get that the trend behind the question is to show women who have no clue how to maintain a relationship and don’t know what’s important to make relationships work. Some women think they just have to be pretty and not cheat. I agree it's weird to ask on a date or to a potential partner. However, if someone is asking for help, it's a completely fair question to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 02:58 PM
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I think it’s mostly asked in a derogatory way. Like a scoff, “what do you bring to the table? Why do you deserve abc?” When a woman says she would like a partner that has abc. If you're asking for help though, it's a completely fair question to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 02:49 PM
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And...? What about the other 38%? Are they just chopped liver? How does the 62% compare to years past? More context needed
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 02:37 PM
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Again, I don't disagree. But the problem is that a large number of women (or men) prefer the same things. Since polygamy isn't a thing due to social and legal constructs there are not enough desirable people to go around. It's a simple math problem, and people are sometimes unwilling to do the work (or unwilling to acknowledge that there's a problem) to be more desirable and then want to complain that there aren't enough of said people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 07:42 PM
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When a man says it, it's considered shaming, ageist, ableist, fatphobic and misogyny. See the problem now?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 07:35 PM
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I've seen and met plenty of homeless women. And as you allude to in other responses, many women want financially successful men and won't be happy with someone who is on the verge of homelessness. Men are also more willing to date down rather than the opposite. So, this can explain why you don't see as many homeless women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 07:32 PM
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Because these women make a big deal about it, like calling men fatphobic or misogynists. When one puts up conditions that disqualify large swaths of people, they lose the ability to complain about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 07:25 PM
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Nobody owes their time to a stranger in that way. And would you really want someone who pretended they were attracted to you to go out on a date with you? Pretending to be into someone just to get laid or have a date is pretty questionable behavior and ethics. I'm not disagreeing. All I'm pointing out is that both men and women complain that they are not having success dating, when their complaints should be qualified by "I'm not having success dating in my preferred target group."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 07:21 PM
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Blackpillers would instead argue that some can't make it to the top 20% no matter what. The point I think black pillers are trying to make is that no matter how much work someone puts in, they may not make it to the top n% that most women automatically find attractive. Genetics, socioeconomic status and so one come into play. That is not to say that your advice for going to the gym and having a good job isn't wise. Surely, it will help your chances, but lets not act like it's possible for every …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 07:17 PM
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I see a lot of people in this subreddit and the other pills wanting women to give them extra time to prove how 'nice' they are and how 'decent'. But a truly nice and decent person doesn't feel entitled to the time of a stranger, under just about any circumstance. Because we have told generations of boys (now men) that all women want is a nice guy and to be treated well and that looks don't matter. But in reality, looks do matter because they get your foot in the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 07:03 PM
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No, but people consider relationships/sex valuable and can potentially make life better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 06:44 PM
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This is ridiculous as well as impossible I think that's kind of the point of OP. There's only so many so called attractive men to go around and we're saying everyone can only have one partner. So, people have to realize this and adjust their expectations or better themselves accordingly. But, is hypocritical to complain about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 06:42 PM
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"Perfectly fine, perfectly single" according to those men. Maybe the women are on to something. If you only make just above minimum wage, and are struggling to make ends meet, why exactly should a woman want to settle for someone who if he loses his job, she now has to take care of him. Most people live check to check. The same thing could be said about women. Why would a so called high value man want to date/marry a woman who makes a low wage, has student debt because of a degree in something d…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 06:38 PM
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This is why the whole "just lift bro" is sometimes bad advice to get women. As you say, if every man was not overweight/obese, we'd find other attributes to judge them on. One should get into the best shape they can because of the health benefits, not just to attract the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 06:33 PM
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but if a woman settles for a man she doesn't want, she will be unhappy. The irony these men are pointing out is that these women are unhappy anyways because they are single. If finding a partner was really important, you'd either adjust your preferences or do something to make the men you're target reciprocate. The extreme case that you see articles on is the overweight single mom complaining that no one wants to date her. Except, they don't tell you she's only considering men who are chiseled a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 06:21 PM
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It's because women know if the child is theirs. Men don't and until recently, it couldn't be verified. For example, a woman sleeps with a new man every day this week and gets pregnant. Who is the mom? Who is the dad? EDIT: If the male is going to provide, why won't he want to know that the child is his or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 04:01 PM
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Winner winner chicken dinner. Here's the question I have. I wonder if they are still together and she's on Tinder?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/08/22 07:41 PM
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This is not mutually exclusive, though. You should pick better men and men in general should be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 11:53 AM
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There's a coupe of reasons: You're going to be #2, especially at the beginning of a relationship. A single mom is going to put her kids first, as she should. I have heard it posited that in a healthy family, you should put God (if you believe in a higher power), yourself, your partner then your kids. The rationale behind having your kids last is they need stability from their parents. Generally harder to make plans. Going to be more likely to be attached to a previous partner in some way. The wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 01:58 PM
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I cannot make myself attracted to men I never found attractive (I don’t even know how this is supposed to work— have you ever managed to actually force yourself to find someone attractive when you didn’t feel that way about them naturally?), What a lot of men find it hard to believe is that you can't find something to hang your hat on with most men? There's gotta be something attractive about most men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:22 PM
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But men also tend to ignore statistical and medical facts that say women have to endure all of the side effects of birth control, pregnancy, and most importantly safety. But, this is kind of a self defeating argument. The point of OP was that women are rejecting men for superficial reasons instead of trying to qualify men to make it less likely that they'll pump and dump, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:19 PM
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This is something I've pointed out to women (and they don't seem to understand or like it): they are excluding a large percentage of men right off the bat where a relationship could work. You're right in your OP that women have the risk of pregnancy and sexual assault. The irony here is that they are accepting or declining men on seemingly superficial reasons instead of attributes that would make men less likely of pumping and dumping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 02:55 PM
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Second, obesity is a disease. It is strongly correlated with poverty and stress. No one is required to be attracted to obese people, but you are required to not be an ass about disability. I used to work in a hospital with a large bariatric surgery program, and literally 100% of the people coming through had tried 'just eating less and exercising more.' I agree, there is often an oversimplification of the issue and there are several factors that go into it. For example, I've been kind of chunky …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 02:34 PM
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I have a hypothesis about this. Women will unload about work and then men will try and give solutions when not asked for and then women will yell at him that she wants him to just listen. So then he just listens and then gets accused of being distant. There is nothing wrong with this per se (except the part where people get mean/nasty/upset), it's just that men and women are different and that's okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 04:12 PM
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You are saying (mad) men are the first people to judge a single mom who married a deadbeat guy. Why is the criticism of single moms unwarranted?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 05:11 PM
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That's a problem, how exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 04:44 PM
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Let me ask you a question: How common is it to see an "average" woman date a (morbidly) obese man? I think it's less common than (morbidly) obese women dating average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 08:17 PM
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You're right, isn't there some saying there's the woman you'll f*ck and the woman you'll take home to meet your parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 03:45 PM
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You're taking it too literally and there's also a bias to this. If a man is a workout junkie and goes and climbs mountains every weekend, they are likely fit and want a partner who share's the same same interests and values. Someone who is out of shape won't be a good fit or keep up. Also since men have higher libido's then women in general, they are more likely to have short term relations with women who may not be what's considered attractive. The problem is women who may be overweight get wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 03:20 PM
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Pretty much this. OP is taking overweight/obese to be literal medical definition. Many women are overweight/obese to a point and still can have success with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 03:12 PM
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Men tend to have a wider variance in the women they consider attractive. Of course women who are older, chubbier, etc. are going to have less success, but will have more success than their male counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 02:46 PM
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I forget the details, but the conclusion of the study was that men tended to be more consistent with what they said they wanted and reality and women said one thing but did something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:56 PM
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The irony is that some of them got into LTR/marriages based off the feels and they did not end well. When they go back into the game, they base it off the feels. You feel like asking them, how did that work out the first time for ya?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:25 PM
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I always take it with a giant grain of salt when a women says "X trait doesn't matter to me, I'm sapiosexual and/or demisexual." I've found that some of these women can actually be the most picky and then complain about being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 11:20 AM
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I'd have to find it but I remember reading a survey someone did at speed dating events. They surveyed both men and women about what they were looking for and then asked about what they liked about the men they picked after the event. Women placed looks low on their list of priorities and that they wanted someone who was a good conversationalist, funny, had a career, etc. before looks. When they did the post event survey, one of the top reasons they picked the men they did was looks. In other wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 11:13 AM
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There's a couple of things. The variance in what women consider physically attractive is narrower then men. Other variables come into play with women such as money.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 10:12 PM
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After years of fucking above her weight class (this is evident by none of them putting a ring on it) her only chance is to settle HARD. It seems like too many put so much emphasis on "chemistry" (aka sexual desire) that they miss the forest for the trees. You can't simply write everyone off for lack of chemistry then complain that you're alone. And more and more men are figuring out what a shit deal being the cock of Last Resort is and will avoid women like this entirely. I'd argue many men when…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/06/22 03:29 PM
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Even when they don't, none of them are trying to get pregnant just to have an abortion. It can't be likened to a deliberate action like driving drunk. No one drives to die or kill another in a car, either. But it happens. Getting drunk before you drive increases the chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 02:28 PM
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Okay then, another way to look at this. You know bobsledding and driving can be dangerous. You can take precautions to reduce the risk of injury and death, but it is still a possibility. You still do it anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 12:32 PM
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It's amazing that people make the claim that male masturbation is the equivalent of genocide. People apparently failed biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 11:11 AM
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This is a self defeating argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 11:11 AM
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For that matter any dude who’s ever jerked off is a serial killer. Sperm by itself is not a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 11:09 AM
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"Better dead than under fed"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 11:03 AM
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That's your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:28 PM
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I dont think anyone would be opposed to a larger percentage of their taxes being put towards that instead of hmm lets say police departments. I agree, even as someone who has libertarian/conservative leanings.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:12 PM
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But it begs the question: Why are they not using the cheap/free versions of birth control available to them or not have sex in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 09:48 AM

I agree for the most part. But more pro-life people should agree with more funding for adoption services, childcare, healthcare, and housing if they want more women to give their baby up for adoption or keep it. This is a straw man to some extent. I mean I've heard it costs 10's of thousands just to adopt, so you have to be upper middle class to even have a shot at it. That money could be spent elsewhere. And many pro lifers simply disagree that the government (the Federal government especially)…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 09:44 AM

I think there should be no rape/incest exception. I'm just pointing out that in the vast majority of cases, the woman was not forced to have sex and could have backed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:59 PM
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Nope. But the law/cops/courts generally frown upon using excessive force in a situation that doesn't call for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:29 PM

Except an STI isn't a potential human.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:22 PM

But it's generally accepted that you can't kill them to make them leave unless they are putting you (or others) in danger (which would be akin to an ectopic pregnancy).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:21 PM
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I agree with your take here. This is a classic "conservative" position to give the embryo the benefit of the doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:08 PM
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Why wouldn't it be a serious question? Someone isn't a person until they are 6 as they are highly depended on others to provide for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:04 PM

Except you agreed to activities where pregnancy is a possible outcome. Rape/incest excluded. You can say you don't want to get pregnant all you want, but you still agreed to an activity where it's possible. It's like touching the hot stove and then getting surprised that you got burned.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:56 PM

Or keep your legs closed and learn to like oral and anal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:52 PM
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They also get angry that the guy didn’t improve whilst they were together - often failing to reason that in some way that is at least partially their fault. Either lack of support or the reverse (too much enabling) This is pretty much it, I think. Part of being in a grown up relationship is supporting your partner to be the best version of themselves, and the best version of themselves may not look like your preferences. And that's OK.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/06/22 12:14 PM
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Wrong. As I pointed out, how do you suggest the gang problem be handled? They represent a disproportionate amount of gun violence and don't care about the law in the first place. If you took a hard line, you'd have people screaming racism and ACAB. You're proposing a simple solution to a complex problem
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:42 PM
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It is but other countries are not as large or diverse as the US
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:34 PM
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Criminals will not turn their guns in, though. Genie is out of the bottle. I also have read a long while ago that if you take out certain demographics, that gun violence in the US is actually on par with other developed nations. In other words, take the gangs out of the picture. Somehow, I don't think they are going to give up their guns.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:19 PM
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why do countries who have the same mental health problems, but have strict gun control, overall have less gun violence. They may have the same mental health problems but I would ask: Do they occur at the same frequency? Are they successfully being managed/treated? Simply saying they have problems and they occur at the same rate doesn't paint the complete picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:08 PM
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Assuming Roe vs Wade becomes overturned and the woman can't get an abortion, are you still going to want financial abortion rights? My guess is absolutely. You would be wrong, and nice straw man. Anyone that is intellectually honest does not advocate a so called "financial abortion" if abortion is illegal. Many women only get abortions in the first place because their man won't step up. Two obvious points that I can't believe have to be pointed out: Child support laws are already on the books Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 05:28 PM
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Rape is the exception to the rule which only counts for 1-2% of the abortions at most. We're talking about the vast majority of abortions that are done electively for for convenience/selfish reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 04:30 PM
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The hypocrisy is that many of these women will parrot the "But if you can't take me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best" shit.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/04/22 01:32 PM
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She wasn't cheating on him with all those men. Because she wasn't really in a relationship with him at that point, right? And she wasn't even "dating" those other men, so those liaisons didn't even count anyway (there seems to be multiple different definitions of what counts as "dating" nowadays). This sort of thing has been going on for at least 15-20 years. Back when I was hard dating, I learned the hard way that you basically have to ask/prod someone to be exclusive. Many times, I ended up ca…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/04/22 01:28 PM
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lol troll
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 03:43 PM
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because it shows a complete lack of awareness of the other person's right to have any preferences. She definitely has preferences.... 6 pack, 6", 6 figures
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/04/22 01:47 PM
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One of my cousins was the type to have pretty much a week between one relationship ending and another beginning. I remember back in the day there was this girl I knew that would literally spend that week crying about how lonely she was and how she was a POS.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/04/22 01:41 PM
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I think it’s too misogynistic and doesn’t sufficiently empathize with the unique problems that women have to suffer through. And you don't think men have different, unique problems that women can't empathize with?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 03:13 PM
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My sister is a pharmacist as well. A long while ago, she literally got head hunters calling the store(s) she worked at asking to talk to the pharmacist. They didn't care who they got, they were hard up for people.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/04/22 10:28 AM
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I get a kick out of these when they get posted. "Here's a revealing picture of me but I'm not looking for hookups/sex" But your pictures determined that is a lie.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/04/22 10:24 AM
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Here's the other thing. I'm likely neuro divergent and the way they traditionally teach in school doesn't mesh well with my learning style/issues. Additionally, I found myself bored with many of the topics or what was taught. What happens is you get labeled as "dumb" because you aren't like the "other kids" but you're just as intelligent as them if not more so.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/04/22 11:42 AM
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I've always contended that modern medicine has become just following a flow chart that was created by various government agencies, insurance and big pharma that all have ulterior motives.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/04/22 11:35 AM
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Using the analogy /u/Grappleheart gave, the standard may be as simple getting from A to B safely and reliably. You can be perfectly happy with either; the Civic will be easier to find, buy, fix, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 10:30 PM
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This is the way to do it. They say beauty is skin deep and if you really want an LTR, are you going to leave them when they get old?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 10:13 PM
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Because you have one half of people complain that they can't find anyone in the other half. Both halves are lonely and want companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 10:10 PM
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There's lowering your standards and then there's "lowering your standards." What people mean when they give this advice is that people have to have realistic expectations. A woman who is overweight is unlikely to get the tall guy who has less than 5% body fat. And you have the long term vs short term thing reversed. What gets people into trouble is that they chase attractive people who have no substance because of tingles. Being attractive doesn't make someone a good partner for the long term. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 04:58 PM
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And many women incorrectly use this to claim "men are visual."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/03/22 02:24 PM
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Pretty much this. I've mentioned this before: Back in the dawn of online dating when I did it, it was always the below average women that would almost automatically block the low average men that contacted them. Their reasoning was that these men would get nasty when they would be rejected. Usually, it was the men calling a spade a spade and pointing out the obvious: in spite of them packing the extra pounds or homely looking, they were willing to give them a chance and found something attractiv…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/03/22 02:56 PM
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Of course - tack on "that I'm attracted to" to any of these statements.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/03/22 02:49 PM
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Quite simple: it's biology. Men are the ones who don't have to carry offspring to term so they are programmed to spread their seed far and wide. So, generally speaking, they are going to have lower standards. People will claim "men are more visual" but it's not what people think it means.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/03/22 09:40 PM
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Poly, demisexual and sapiosexual are all the new terms to make slut sound appealing.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/03/22 09:35 PM
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This is the great irony/hypocrisy of the situation. Men are too thirsty and think with the wrong head. So, women like this tend to think they are the hot shit when they are not. Wayyy back when I was dating I remember seeing the profile of a woman that claimed to be in her late 20's or early 30's. She basically reminded me of my grandmother at the end of her life - she claimed to be disabled, she was wearing old lady house coats in all of her pictures and her legs looked like my grandmothers as …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/03/22 09:32 PM
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I agree 100%
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/22 03:29 PM
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But NO, that would require too much work/self-accountability and "that shouldn't matter anyway." It shouldn't matter for them but the guy has to be attractive. Rules for thee nor for me.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/22 03:27 PM
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but cries victim when my uncle told her to lose weight and she stopped talking to him years ago. This demonstrates that her attitude is more of the problem than the weight loss. She's still going to be a bitch if she looses the weight.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/22 03:23 PM
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And “work out” - when the new male body that is idolised is so pumped with drugs that if you wanted to get close you’d have to spend lots of money and time and risk your health (as well as legal issues) I'd argue that some of the whole "get ripped" thing may be overselling success. Sure, being a healthy weight is going to attract more people for obvious reasons. But some people are going to have a harder time keeping weight off for a multiple reasons. I'm not saying not to try. For example, I've…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/22 03:19 PM
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"I'm invisible to men" is code for "I'm invisible to men that I find attractive."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/22 03:09 PM
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Me: You are fat. I've always argued that the fat is many times the least of their worries. The fat is just the icing on the cake. It's usually that these women are insufferable and entitled to begin with. That's why she's a single mom with no prospects in her 30's. She also doesn't have self introspection to figure out if "she's invisible to men" that the problem might be her and the men she's trying to chase?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/22 03:05 PM
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So, she's average at best but wants a hottie?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/03/22 04:26 PM
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When their the oldest kid/teenager in the house, it makes sense.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/03/22 08:22 PM
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And she's likely a 3 or 4 herself. When I was dating back in the stone age 15+ years ago, it was always the below average girls that would not be interested and then block you. I'm below average myself, so I didn't have high expectations. What would usually happen is: Approach woman who were below average - For example, they were usually overweight/obese, but had a nice face (i.e. if they lost weight they'd be a knock out). The reverse is also true. They would tell you they weren't interested. I…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/03/22 11:25 AM
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Depends on a lot of things really - environmental factors, genetics, how one grew up and so on. Some people might have lower metabolisms to start with and with the rise of so called "desk jobs" or "knowledge economy" that doesn't help.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 02:30 PM
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Great post, but I wanted to expand on something. Fat men that 'expect' a thin woman aren't delusional. They know the odds. It's not 'expectation' or 'entitlement' it's just hope. That doesn't mean they wouldn't get in with a fat woman (relative to weight - I've been there done that, she was still chasing 'jeep guys'). This usual leads to "men are more visual." We're visual, just not in the way people expect. Of course we like looking at pretty women and sex sells. This is just marketing 101, hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 02:27 PM
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Here's an important corollaries to that. Obese/overweight people (both men and women) want normal weight folks, but then get butt hurt when they can't get them. Additionally, if they happen to have a short term fling with someone that's conventionally attractive, that inflates their ego and becomes expectation. In other words, they will reject people on their own level. This may be why when a guy is rejected in a situation like this, he starts calling her fat, ugly, etc. Women are often confused…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 02:17 PM
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If ugly fat ass came up to you at the bar, and attempted to be well groomed and dressed and attempted to make small talk, you would still think he's a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 07:24 PM
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….and here you have it, a bunch of angry replies instead of people taking responsibility for their poor social skills. Nope. Pointing out that people who do the best they can with the hand they were dealt is not "angry."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 07:19 PM
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Aren't there studies that say married men are generally happier and live longer than their single counterparts?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 07:17 PM
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I never said that. I just pointed out that it's going to be a lot harder if someone isn't conventionally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 05:58 PM
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Social skills don't change the fact that the guy is still ugly AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 05:53 PM
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But, here's the problem, if you're ugly AF, you can have all the social skills in the world and not get anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 05:52 PM
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You make some good points, but the reverse is also true. How do men vet a woman for interest, kindness, behavior in public settings, etc.?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 03:21 PM
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My main issue is they don’t seem to be willing to work with men with shortcomings. Hygiene, empathy, and employment are non negotiable but no one is perfect. You have to work with people a little. I think that women in FDS get caught up in the letter of the law rather than the spirit. Everyone is different and each relationship has their own dynamic. For example, the employment example you brought up. Yes, having a good job is desirable. But, would you date an unemployed doctor who is actively l…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 03:16 PM
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Are you feminine, in shape, and pleasant to be around? Bingo! Hell, a lot of guys would take feminine and pleasant to be around. So the bar isn't that high.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/03/22 10:29 PM
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I've heard of shit like this.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/03/22 09:40 PM
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Well, it's a crap shoot sometimes. I remember a story from when I was a junior or senior in high school. There was this girl, she had a few extra pounds (not overweight/obese by any means) and was the definition of homely looking. She was not going to win any beauty contests. She ended up dating an older college guy - he was at a good school doing engineering or something like that. I remember one of the more popular and better looking girls in my class bitching about how she was single but this…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/03/22 06:44 PM
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I'd argue that they aren't pleasant to be around (as /u/Ok_Management4634 stated) or setting their standards too high or both. I know plenty of "nerdy" type of women who refuse to date the equivalent male and wouldn't even give them a chance.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/03/22 05:39 PM
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I'll say it again, you people won't ever acknowledge how much looks really matter(in the sense that you shouldn't be ugly) because they're egos are too fragile for it. As I've implied elsewhere, if personality mattered so much, we'd see attractive women dating quadriplegic midgets.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 12:20 PM
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There is a minimum standard for looks. So, looks do matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 09:38 PM
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Those marginally attractive men were still attractive, unless you believe all women only exclusively want to fuck supermodel dudes(which no one with two eyes believes), that statement doesn't hold up with "personality matters". You're correct here. If personality really mattered, the physical attractiveness level would go down to a 2 or a 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 05:55 PM
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Nope, people have run plenty of informal experiments. If you're a guy and you're hot - women drool over themselves to talk with you. If you're a woman - just have a pulse and you'll get attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 05:45 PM
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We are talking about initial attraction. Like i am not arguing the fact that you have a far easier time attracting someone if you look like a greek god, nor am i saying that you do not have more options. The question is what you want to do with that initial attraction. You're missing the point. If you're ugly AF but be well groomed, have a great personality and a lot of things going for you, no (or very few) woman is going to give you the time of day in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:17 PM
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It's simple. You're going to go after the good looking people first. You can claim that personality matters all you want but you aren't likely going to date a guy whose looks are in the bottom tier. You won't even give him a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:10 PM
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Currently, Women’s reproductive rights to their own body is under attack with several states enacting laws and the Supreme Court being challenged re: Roe v Wade. Women still have access to multiple forms of contraception. Women also generally have a choice to who they sleep with. Rape is illegal last time I checked. Women still don’t make but 80 cents for every dollar a man makes….. You do realize this can be explained by the fields that women generally go into. For example, nursing and nurses a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:53 PM
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My expectations are quite low for everyone these days.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/01/22 01:04 PM
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I forget who has said it but they said something to the effect of "the first rule of feminism is never do something, even indirectly, that benefits/pleasures a man"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/22 02:01 PM
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So, virgin at 22: Likely be religious or committed to some other life goal. Nothing wrong with either of these. Someone who would not be considered attractive, would likely have some sort of physical/mental issues, socially awkward, etc. I could see her accepting #1 but not #2.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/22 01:38 PM
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Body is still warm and you're looking for the next man?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/01/22 09:21 PM
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Hospitals don't make money staffing empty beds with expensive nurses. This is the problem folks don't realize: People want "unlimited" capacity of something, but are not willing to pay for it. This is a common business problem not just with hospitals/beds, but with manufacturing and other things as well.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/01/22 01:36 PM
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You wouldn't be making $0.82 on the $1.00 if you majored in a real degree rather than art history.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/01/22 01:31 PM
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You think she made the last guy wait until the fifth date? The 7 kids at age 30 clearly shows this is a lie.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/01/22 01:26 PM
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Ironically making an argument for women not being allowed to choose who they fuck since apparently so many of them are incapable of responsibly exercising that agency on their own. Apparently they don't know how to use birth control either.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/01/22 01:23 PM
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Her tears are for it not working out as planned. Things rarely work out as planned. Muphy's Law....
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/01/22 01:16 PM
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"Abusive" sometimes means "He didn't buy me the designer purse I wanted."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/01/22 01:14 PM
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This is exactly it. Someone who is not only top tier attractive but has their shit together has options. And it's not likely to be her, unless she offers something.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/11/21 02:43 PM
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I hear Starbucks can paper the walls with the college diplomas of their baristas. All those "Art History" degrees.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/11/21 10:56 AM
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That 1500 SAT score is not all that spectacular when considering her lack of smart decisions in her personal life. This is what we call book smarts. Many of these folks are too smart for their own good, and cannot apply their knowledge to every day situations.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/11/21 10:51 AM
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Yep. Ive heard men say they wont date a woman because she's fat, but thats almost always when the woman is downright obese. I've pointed this out before, even obese women have it easier than obese men. Sure, they may not get as much attention, but they still get attention.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/10/21 03:42 PM
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Like, I like women with big breasts, but I have been with many women who lack that attribute. I've been with women where my man boobs have been bigger than hers. We still had fun.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/10/21 03:39 PM
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Well, said. I keep hearing the old adage that "men are visual" meaning they want nothing less than a super model. Most men would not turn one down if the opportunity presented itself. What I think it really means is that men like looking at women and their features, period. How many men do you see with heavier women? The opposite is less common.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/10/21 03:33 PM
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Someone should tell these women that when your significant other doesn't buy you that new purse you want, it isn't abuse.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/10/21 10:42 AM
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She had her come to Jesus moment too late.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/21 07:48 PM
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I don't think OP understands that many times there's a mental illness component to this issue. We have crappy support for individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 11:24 PM
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I would argue. That women have actually lowered their standards. Due to women not being as reliant on men for survival on an individual level. It's not lowering their standards, it's changing them. If what you say is true, women use to have to take into consideration stuff that would make a stable long term partner. If women can take care of themselves, they can move towards looking more for sexual desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 11:11 PM
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“women can be incels” It's usually by choice.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/10/21 04:07 PM
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Like why would any man commit to her? She's going to be on the carousel until the child is on their own. But you are right. NOW she has the high standards for men after she got knocked up and he dumped her/left. And the men that likely meet these "high standards" would likely not be interested. At 28, there's still plenty of women that aren't single mothers.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/10/21 04:01 PM
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Fat men don’t want fat women, fat women don’t want fat men. A fat women can have sex by a high percentage of men, but a fat man won’t have sex with a high percentage of women. It's more common to see fat women with a man that's more fit than she is than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 06:43 PM
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And the flip side may also be true. The rest of the men will be simping over women, that they won't care that she's with 4 other guys at the same time.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/10/21 02:57 PM
3

As long as you're willing to walk away, you win. This is true of any deal, you need a line in the sand where you're willing to walk away.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/10/21 03:46 PM
2

You sir win the Internet for the day.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/10/21 03:41 PM
3

Yeah, partly because of what /u/mustangfrank pointed out. I heard a divorce lawyer talk about this, and the reasons most of these are thrown out is they are poorly designed/executed from the start. In other words, they download the default template from some lawyer site, so it's easy for either party to claim ignorance/duress. EDIT: It doesn't mean it will hold up in court but the odds are better if done a certain way.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/10/21 09:32 PM
2

The problem end up being you can't polish a turd.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 05:44 PM
8

I think you got the order mixed up honey
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/09/21 02:30 PM
1

I personally don't think VR is the answer. It's only a temporary fix.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 10:19 AM
1

This is obviously incorrect — I’ve made fake Tinder profiles of attractive women late on a Saturday night and a minority of first (few) messages are sexual come-ons, although this does happen frequently. You are correct that it's not the majority of matches/messages. I want to make the point that women generally have the whole gambit of getting some nookie right away to the more traditional dating. That's a choice that many men don't have on the apps, unless they are above average looks wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 10:14 AM
13

It's the same reason why there's hookers/escorts. You pay them to pay attention to you.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/09/21 09:02 PM
23

Just think, men used to be able to have the standard that a woman should be a virgin in order for him to consider marriage. Look how far to crazy town we are now. "I don't ask for much, but just keep your tittie picks off the internet"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/09/21 09:01 PM
7

Yeah, she's not 39......
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/09/21 09:41 AM
14

Then we factor in weight for women.... You're onto something. If women can make silly demands like 6ft and $100K salary, their weight can be used against them.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/08/21 12:05 PM
10

most would choose Amy and feel some desire for her. I'd argue this is what's meant by "men are visual." Sure, they'd like the swim suit model but there's plenty of other women to look at.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 07:29 PM
5

I never said that. I said don't be surprised if people that generally aren't attractive have negative feelings towards the group that doesn't find them attractive. What do you think was gonna happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 05:42 PM
7

Hint: the answer is not for women to have sex with men they are not attracted to. Then don't complain when incels talk shit about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 05:36 PM
15

It's why I favor requiring proof of net income or property tax burden on your most recent tax return in order to be allowed to vote. Back in the olden days, it use to be land owners, IIRC since they had a vested interest in the government. The other irony is the same people that are screaming "Voter ID is racist" are the same folks that want vaccine passports.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/07/21 05:22 PM
6

The relationship she wants is one she will NEVER get. I seriously wonder what goes through the minds of women like this. Here's the thing: At 27, there's a shit load of single women that have no kids and the baggage that goes with them. Why the fuck would I pick a woman with one kid, let alone a woman with 6 with a 7th on the way? What is she offering other than 8 mouths to feed?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/07/21 12:12 PM
1

In spite of all this: Has to be good looking and have stable employment/money.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/07/21 12:05 PM
4

I know chicks that are 300lb+ and still dont want fat dudes. FTFY, works both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 10:42 AM

No one is denying it. Men love pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 06:26 PM

But what about comic book loving, overweight and with good career prospect guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 06:23 PM

They aren't a hive mind bet they certainly skew a particular way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 06:20 PM

Women not wanting an out-of-shape unhygienic neckbeard who dresses like an overgrown 10 year old boy, does not mean women only want a 6 foot Adonis with an 8 inch dick and is absolutely flawless. But the problem is many women themselves are the female equivalent of an out-of-shape unhygienic neckbeard who dresses like an overgrown 10 year old and there are guys that will still want to date them or at least give them attention. And then when the woman's looks match comes along, he's no longer "he…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 06:18 PM
3

He was “obviously abusive”. Of course he was. They always are in the end. All of them. I wouldn’t be surprised if I was described as abusive by the ex I did absolutely everything for Of course he was abusive. He didn't buy the designer purse she wanted. How terrible.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/07/21 03:31 PM
4

Of course. But I was mainly referring to people and their looks match.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 08:25 PM
57

Lol you literally can’t get a better example of hypocrisy if you looked it up in the dictionary… Or it's [Below] Average guy: Hey want to go out? [Below] Average girl: Sorry, you're not my type. Later.... [Below] Average girl: Why won't no one date me? reeeeeeeee It's because you're nothin' special my dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 08:12 PM
1

If the first girl lied about wanting to be with him for a few weeks (or months), or if she just "changed her mind" and then ran off with someone else after receiving free attention, validation and resources, he's going to be hesitant to offer that same patience to the second girl who wants to "make him wait." This is why a lot of men get pushy/are pushy. Shit or get off the pot
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 05:06 PM
8

Woman, you in no position to dictate terms.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/07/21 07:33 PM
6

Abuse = Not buying the designer purse I want
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/07/21 07:18 PM
21

I've met several women who believe that if they don't feel the 'magic' when they first meet someone, they would never consider dating that man. Those same women are still very much single and most of them have never been married with children. A woman I knew of was basically like this. She is like 42 and never married. She had to have "chemistry" and would nit pick. For example, she would complain if the guy didn't ask [enough] questions even if the conversation was good.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/07/21 01:15 PM
1

Why I find ironic as well is that these same women will reject guys based on more trivial things like looks. They don't understand they are in no position to dictate terms.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/07/21 04:43 PM
2

Cuckoldry is becoming more popular now than ever. It's not just that, poly too which I suppose is kind of the same thing. One funny thing I've heard: a specific woman said she's poly and married but only wants single guys for an LTR. Gee, wonder why.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/07/21 04:40 PM
5

You forgot all of this goes out the window if the guy is hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 06:20 PM
18

So much wrong with this attitude. There is such a thing as "free will" and there are multiple men this woman could have dated and had a good life with. But she was likely chasing tingles and then wondering why they dumped her or stole from her or whatever. In other words, men aren't going to fall from the sky. I once heard a joke: A guy named Joe finds himself in dire trouble. His business has gone bust and he's in serious financial trouble. He's so desperate he decides to ask God for help. He b…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/06/21 08:52 PM
0

Here's a couple of thoughts: The standards listed are all cliche and/or vague. How much does physical attraction play? Are you going to give up half of your "requirements" because he's hot and good in bed? Are you going to date someone ugly, but gives you everything you need emotionally?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 03:50 PM
4

How does caring about the environment, believing in science, and not hating gay people make a guy a communist soy boy? You both are using straw men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 03:29 PM
3

Is that anything like sheer fucking hubris?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/05/21 05:44 PM
2

As an aside we all know demi and sapiosexual are bullshit. Many, many years ago, when these terms were starting to come into use, I did try talking to a woman who used these. She basically shamed me for not being attractive enough, and claimed that even though she was "demisexual" she still needed a physical attraction. Basically, it's a way for people to say they are looking for that AF/BB unicorn, using other terms - they want someone who is hot, but is also smart and waits, etc.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/05/21 04:54 PM
2

hitting on young, skinny girls (notice she didn't say women). Of course, honey. That's human nature. Just like you're interested in the top n% of men.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/05/21 04:47 PM
4

In my mind, there's only one question that matters: What are you offering men? I mean if you're bitchy, entitled and have a ton of debt, it doesn't matter your age.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/05/21 10:04 AM
1

Ok, so I don't have it reversed then. Childfree women aren't open to starting a family in the sense of having kids. Then whats the problem? If a segment of the population wants kids why does it matter? If you don't want kids, find a man that doesn't want kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 07:03 PM
1

I think you're confusing two things: The ability to have children versus already having children. Men who want to have a family want the former, which ends up being younger women, for obvious reasons. Single parents are usually harder to date because you're competing for attention with their kids. It's much easier to date a single woman with no commitments. Also, if the relationship gets serious, it feels like you have the responsibility of being a parent (taking care of them) but don't have the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 06:37 PM
1

I think you have that reversed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 04:35 PM
3

I get what you're asking and I've never prescribed to the 3 date = sex thing myself. There's a couple of things to keep in mind: You still need to communicate that you're into the guy. Sex isn't the only way to show this. I think part of the problem is that modern women (and men) have backed themselves into this corner. What I mean is they slept around, many times without commitment. Now, I'm supposed to wait? How do I know you're even into me?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/05/21 02:33 PM
1

Not far fetched. Women still want to be approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 08:35 PM
6

It's not gay and stop claiming you are "visual" when really you just like to exploit the female gender. It's all gross caricature of the female. Being attracted to females is not exploiting the female gender. It's simple biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 11:52 AM
4

There is some truth in what you say. But, I'm going to play Devil's Advocate for a minute. have now developed kinks from it. Having kinks is a bad thing, how exactly? He may not be satisfied with me. He may not enjoy sex with me as much as he could. What is your role in this? If you're going to just have starfish sex with him and treat it as some sort of duty, of course he's going to not enjoy it with you. This has nothing to do with porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 11:49 AM
8

I've only made payments on the house.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/05/21 12:10 AM
4

Rules for thee, not for me.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/05/21 12:39 PM
33

I bought my place about a year before I even met my wife. I refused to put her name on the place when we got married.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/05/21 12:25 PM
1

Where is she going to find time for a man in all of that?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/05/21 11:36 AM
1

Let me restate: Men get attention but it may not be as much as their female counterparts/looks match/etc. I know of men that feel like they have to settle because they don't get much interest from women. Technically, they get interest, but they question if they made the right choice because they weren't able to meet/date more women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 12:13 PM
3

Again, you have to actually get attention from the opposite sex to even have a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 09:10 PM
2

If a woman can't find someone in the 100 men that ask her out or date her, the problem is more on her than men in general. If everyone smells like shit, check the bottom of your shoes. That's what men don't have sympathy for, because to many men, women tend to have the numerical advantage of at least getting to spin the wheel more times. Yes, vetting is time consuming, but this isn't a gender specific thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 09:07 PM
11

The first answer nails it. They will be more than willing to hookup. If you give them the tingles.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/04/21 01:11 PM
6

Are you implying women (or generally people) who go to a therapist are not relationship material? I'm going to hop in. I think it depends on a couple of things. First, it depends on how severe someone's issues are. This is self explanatory. Second, it depends on what she's being told during therapy: Is she being told that she's a strong woman and a Queen that should hold out for her prince and that's okay? Or is she being told that the reason men aren't chasing after her is because she's overwei…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/04/21 08:38 AM
4

And, more important how many of them is she rejecting? All. Of. Them.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/04/21 03:12 PM
1

I would say that is one cause of issues. I mean if you're less attractive, you may have self esteem/self image issues. I can't speak to how common this is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 10:05 AM
4

Female attractiveness is much more static. All a woman has to do to generate male interest is be reasonably attractive - and the spectrum of "reasonably attractive" is a remarkably broad one across men as a whole. I love it when others try to tell me that "men are visual" so they want hot 10/10 women. I'd argue that "visual" actually means we just wanna see boobs.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/04/21 08:20 AM
3

Wait, in your example, she's already getting guys she finds attractive but they're in it for a different reason that she is. Clearly, she's attractive enough to attract the guys she's interested in. She just has to filter through those guys for a while till she finds one that's for her. Men generally want sex more than women and are willing to settle because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 11:39 AM
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This is problem #1 in my mind. They don't set the ground rules/expectations early on in the relationship. Part of it, which I don't think she doesn't want to admit, is that she was horny too and it probably felt good to get attention from an "attractive" guy.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/04/21 02:29 PM
2

Surprised Pikachu
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/04/21 08:48 PM
9

Women: Men make more than us! We need to rectify this! Also Women: I make more than my man, he's a lazy ass! Be careful what you wish for.....
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/04/21 02:08 PM
1

HVM are going to have the pick of the litter. That's a result of being HV in the first place. You're essentially banking on a HVM basically being a cuck or a simp. But that would not make them HV.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/04/21 10:36 AM
5

It's not like it's hard to recognize red flags early on if someone is so unhinged they try to choke you to death, yet she still subjected her child to that. This is what I don't understand about folks when they say "He just suddenly became abusive." He probably showed signs of being a douche bag well before he started choking you. You just had your blinders on because of muh tingles.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/04/21 10:09 AM
2

Well, many women who self identify as single mothers may have the children's father still in the picture. You're assuming that these men are all deadbeats, when that is actually a small piece of the pie.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 11:52 PM
2

Where are you? In the US, what I said is the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 11:46 PM
3

You make it like single motherhood is simply the father ups and leaves. You do realize women initiate 70% of divorces and in general favors women in custody? And men can be forced to pay child support?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 11:37 PM
2

But the relationship going bad is mostly on the man's part as they are the one that left. So the woman has no responsibility if she's the one that was insufferable and abusive?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 11:28 PM
2

that tried to choke you to death? Hey now, no kink shaming.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/21 06:47 PM
11

I'm seriously starting to believe people love themselves more than anything or anyone else.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/21 06:46 PM
1

If you are really this brittle and fragile that you can't handle the minor inconveniences of life, then maybe you should arrange at your personal expense for chaperones and personal attendants to accompany you in public. Or, I would suggest that you simply not go out in public. And get therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 11:09 AM
3

And then she'll complain that they are too fat/bald/ugly/poor.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/04/21 05:05 PM
13

I mean this is pretty much a case study for WAATGM. She's not even 30, already has SIX children whom do NOT live with her. Is currently pregnant with #7. So called HVM are likely to self select out, even if they are heavily blue pilled. Of the men that are remaining, we know she's going reject men she's "not attracted to" or other superficial/subjective reasons. And then she's going to wonder why she keeps dating losers or no one wants anything more than sex with her. Does it not cross her mind …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/04/21 04:40 PM
6

So I can't have a male friend because that's "friendzoning" Not all of your male friends would be in the so called "friendzone." It has to do with reciprocity. Some women enjoy getting the attention from men, maybe even unconsciously. But, none of it is returned. I'm not saying there has to be a tit-for-tat or romance.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/04/21 10:53 AM
4

And her baby will grow up in the poverty that she lives in because she didn't want to put in the work. That is her reality and the reality for many people who don't want to put in the work. And these people have no one to blame but themselves. And should they die from their own decisions, it would be natural selection taking its course. I believe Aaron Clarey has pointed this sort of thing out, people love themselves more than their kids or other people, for example. That's why you see this sort…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/04/21 10:12 AM
5

What the hell is the point of needing to contribute to society, if your society has enough resources? Even if those resources are plentiful, they have a cost to produce. You think the farmer or the carpenter shouldn't be compensated for their work?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/04/21 10:08 AM
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Well, unfortunately, I think the only way this happens is when shit hits the fan and the government basically collapses. At this point, people will keep voting for people that promise more free shit and any time someone has an idea to implement any reforms, they are accused of making grandma eat dog food, so it pulls on the heart strings.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/04/21 10:00 AM
18

Came here to say this. Weren't there studies that said if you did three things, it would significantly reduce your chances of poverty: Graduate high school. Waiting to get married until after 21 and do not have children till after being married. Having a full time job. She's broken at least one of these rules.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/04/21 09:45 AM
2

I think you hit the nail on the head. I'm more liberal when it comes to looks than most of the men here, but she's doing herself no favors. Some men may be able to "overlook" her weight if she wasn't a single mom and didn't come across as an entitled bitch.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/04/21 01:02 PM
4

What do you offer a man that a 25 year old without 4 kids can't? There are plenty of 25 year old women that have 0 kids and the associated baggage/issues/drama. She can't claim she's intelligent or mature, because the 4 kids at age 25 prove that's a lie. Why didn't you get commitment from any of the childrens' father's? "They were abusive and lazy. One kept leaving the toilet seat up!"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/04/21 07:46 PM
20

Yet she wants a traditional guy
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/04/21 07:34 PM
3

Geez, all these profiles read the same. I remember years ago, when online dating was starting to become a thing, I was part of a mailing list that gave dating advice tailored towards the online world and did profile reviews. One of the biggest complaints was crap like this, it's all negatives and doesn't do anything to sell her or what she has to offer. In other words, why would I want to swipe on her and take her out on a date over some other woman?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/04/21 03:14 PM
10

I saw a YouTube video awhile back and the guy found a study based on data from speed dating events. Basically, it said that men were more honest about what they were looking for than women. And that women said they wanted a more well rounded guy (i.e. that looks weren't #1 reason to get with someone/on the same level as stuff like personality) but it ended up that looks were the #1 indicator that they wanted to continue seeing the guys they met. It’s guys who are more flexible with looks. Let's …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/04/21 03:09 PM
1

I think part of the issue is hypocrisy, "I'm an overweight female but I'll only date a man that's tall, handsome, in shape/athletic, etc." In other words, if a man fit all that criteria, why would he date you? And there is plenty of vitriol against the male counterpart, neck beard and incel get thrown around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 01:31 PM
13

Free Dinner Strategy.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/03/21 09:45 PM
1

They do, but the women have to want to be with said men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 04:52 PM
5

Stripping/prostitution seems like the easy way out, because, you know, sex sells. I'd argue that a lot of people would would consider this a lack of moral character, that you'd rather show off your tits to a bunch of horny men than it is to actually go get an education or a real job. I'd rather date the person working minimum wage jobs trying to make ends meet.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/03/21 10:00 PM
6

There's two types of women in the world, those that you bring home to introduce to your parents..... and those that you don't.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/03/21 09:51 PM
1

I agree with your statement, but there's also a time component as well. A fetus is just one stage of human development, just like being a baby, toddler, teenager, etc. This is scientific fact. So, by the logic of some folks, it would be okay to kill grandma because she's an inconvenience and no one wants to take care of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 11:34 AM
1

They want a welfare state so no one is "left with nothing". A welfare state would also prevent abortions. So would a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 11:26 AM
9

Does she honestly believe that buying an house is a huge red flag against her name? In a general sense, no. But, but if she can't afford the payments then it becomes a problem.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/03/21 01:10 PM
13

As it is, she's unappealing, unfeminine, encumbered, unapproachable, and insufferable. What she is not is intimidating. This. And I would say that being unattractive (overweight, hair) is the last nail in the coffin. It's basically the hot/crazy index. I think in the end, beauty is skin deep and I can overlook some of the physical aspects if I'm treated well.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/03/21 01:08 PM
32

You know, this is one thing I've thought about over the years. Why are people trying so hard to make women like men and men like women? I'm not saying women have to stay at home and be barefoot and pregnant, but maybe men and women are supposed to be different for a reason? Isn't the claim that diversity is a good thing?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/03/21 01:03 PM
40

Something doesn't add up. Back when I was dating, even my fat ass could get at least 3 dates in a year.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/03/21 01:00 PM
7

You pry my cup of coffee from my cold, dead hands.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/03/21 12:56 PM
-1

Their parents are free to get a job or not partake in activities that may result in a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 11:36 AM
2

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_League
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/03/21 11:24 PM
23

If she is sexy, and at 27, she will get 100+ matches in an hour on any dating app. FTFY.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/03/21 05:14 PM
2

None of those things terminates a life. The level of "pain" doesn't determine whether something is murder, or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 03:36 PM
1

I'm talking about IN TIME TO GET AN ABORTION Then we should actually follow the Bill of Rights and have a quick and speedy trial.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 03:33 PM
2

I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 03:29 PM
0

Rape only accounts for something like 1% of abortions in the US. And getting in the car and going to the store (and even walking around the store now) can kill you. Stop acting like it's 1817, and it's a common thing for women in first world nations to die during childbirth.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 03:25 PM
2

killing a few-weeks-old fetus that can’t feel pain and We don't define murder by whether someone feels pain or not. isn’t even close to resembling a person. Incorrect. They resemble a person at that stage of development. We expect newborns to look different than toddlers, and toddlers to look different than teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 03:22 PM
1

Gross.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/03/21 03:39 PM
2

Demisexual and sapiosexual are just fancy words for saying you want someone smart and "no hookups." The physical attraction threshold stays the same.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/03/21 03:27 PM
1

Rules for thee, not for me.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/03/21 03:14 PM
1

Depends where you live, I suppose.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/03/21 03:11 PM
2

Yeah. I would never trade my pets for a woman. I don't care who she thinks she is.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/02/21 08:47 PM
3

It's only the top people that make $10K a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 06:42 PM
5

And...? People are generally shitty to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 06:25 PM
9

Why does this women need to be criticized? Because in this day in age with "online dating," nearly any woman can post an ad online and get a tidal wave of responses. Since the odds are in her favor with there being something like 8 men to 1 woman, it's hard to believe that there's no one worthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 07:04 PM
10

I’m posting this because there seems to be this narrative repeated on here that women are unsympathetic if not downright psychopaths to men’s emotions needs especially when they express frustration at being lonely or single. WAATGM and be a bit over board in criticism, but there are plenty of subs here on Reddit that take a dim view of the male species. It’s a sad mentality but I am starting to wonder if some men who claim women don’t care about men’s relationship pain are just projecting. How i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 06:47 PM
6

I knew of quite a few single women when I was going to Church and single. These girls had terrible political views, basically bought into the whole SJW crap and left vs. right dichotomy.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/02/21 03:03 PM
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It's a myth because most of the women who employ this sort of thing aren't worth it in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 09:26 PM
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 09:23 PM
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Quality FDS Material. Men (and women) aren't going to waste their time trying to date someone that won't give them the time of day. This strikes me as just playing games, i.e. who is the last one standing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 09:18 PM
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So back in the days where people were pressured to get married and stay married even if the relationship is bad? Define "bad." If it's simply that he leaves the toilet seat up, then I don't know what to tell ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 04:30 PM
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Men are upset about the seeming double standard. If a 3/10 man is being rejected by 3-4/10 women and then she's complaining about getting no attention or ghosted by men with options, she loses the right to complain. No only that, she sounds like the female equivalent of an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 08:27 PM
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I don't care one way or the other, but there are quite a few posts here on Reddit where women complain about crap like "I slept with some guy after 3 dates and he ghosted me." And "No hookups" on dating apps is almost a meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 08:03 PM
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Lol and that’s men’s fault. Seems like you guys should call a global meeting or something. That honestly says way more about you guys than any fat woman. Yes, there's quite a few creepy men out there that only care about getting their dick wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 07:58 PM
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Lol why does it matter if fat women are demanding? You don’t want them right? But the problem is the women aren't necessarily going after their looks match, then wondering why they can't get commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 07:56 PM
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American women are obese...okay and? Because it's generally agreed that someone being overweight or obese is less attractive than someone that's a healthy weight. And to tie it back to the point of the OP, women are still roughly the same amount of sex with a smaller number of partners. One would assume that the overweight/obese women are sleeping with normal men, while overweight/obese men are often being ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 07:54 PM
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I wouldn't say women are 100% being blamed for 100% of men's woes in the dating space, if the person is being intellectually honest. It's equally dishonest to say women have 0% role to play.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 07:44 PM
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No one is not saying to fuck incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 05:04 PM
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men want to use that as an excuse to be lazy, then go ahead. That still means their problems are self-inflicted. Being a whiny lazy manchild gets you NOTHING. Why are you assuming this is an excuse? All I'm saying is that you can do everything in your power and still fall short. That's not an excuse, that's reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 05:00 PM
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Theyre probably not complaining about the lack if sex, then. It's possible to make no mistakes and still lose. Not entitled to sex, so it is valid. Never said anyone was. If a man puts no effort in being attractive, that’s his fault. It's possible to make no mistakes and still lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 04:36 PM
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Lower your expectations. Many people do that. Jack off. Still not a valid substitute. Put more effort into being more attractive. There's a cap on how attractive someone can be and it's affected by such things as socio-economics and even simple biology/genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 04:17 PM
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Westerner Women have very low self-confidence compared to Western men. When did it become a pissing contest between the genders? How about people are miserable in general and stop making it a male only or female only thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 04:11 PM
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If you don't think like there's women that don't complain about men in general, or large swaths of them, you're crazy. I mean, half the women here consider men to be perverted, creepy rapists and child molesters that get off on abusing women. Or, I can point you to several articles where women complain that many men are not economically attractive, which is funny because they wanted to be just like men in those high power jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 04:09 PM
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An argument can be made that the list is related to more traditional values, that men have to be the breadwinner in the family. If they don't have a job, aren't smart, weak and not social, who is going to be willing to date or even marry and have kids with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 01:54 PM
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Plenty of chubbier (not fat) women, or conventionally unattractive women would date or have sex with them but nope, they can't have any of them. They have to have a really sexy women and are super picky. Certainly, there's a faction of men that fall into the category that you state, but I'd argue this is general human nature regardless of gender. Unfortunately, this has become an incel meme. There are the so called "invisible disposable men" who know it will be a cold day in Hell before he can s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 01:37 PM
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But, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 01:19 PM
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Women don't face THIS problem but they face plenty of analogous problems. You're correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 12:37 PM
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You're missing the point that /u/BonePirate makes. Many average men (and women) would love to be desired by the opposite sex and have a lot of options. But, if they are being honest, they know it's not feasible and going to happen. They would though, want to be treated fairly and given a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 12:31 PM
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In 90% of cases, even on the most depraved incel boards, I’ve always read complaints about inceldom as a shorthand for lovelessness and low social status. It’s the main argument they make why they don’t see prostitutes, they don’t just want sex they want to feel worthy of sex. This is why legalized prostitution, porn and masturbation is not the answer. It's basically the same complaint women have about "just getting used for sex." After the novelty wears off, they'd like to have something more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 12:27 PM
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Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in awhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 12:20 PM
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So, ugly people don't deserve relationships, even platonic ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 09:00 PM
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Because the posters you're talking about don't have a healthy view of people, especially the of the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 12:35 PM
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The vast majority of men do not act like what you describe. You're taking the exception and making it the rule. What /u/carlosfernandez3 is getting at is that the majority of men may be socially awkward or not have the best looks. That's not being a creeper.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 05:40 PM
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How many 3-4/10 guys do you see dating 8-10/10 women. Be honest. The only time you'd see this is if the guy had off the charts attributes in other areas like wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 12:26 PM
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That's human nature, though, not just a man thing. I recall there being studies where women will say that they want someone well rounded, has a good career (or at least potential/heading in the right direction), intelligent, interesting, etc. But when shown profiles of men, they tended to gravitate towards the more attractive ones, even though they may not have any decent career prospects or anything else they considered important. I've even seen people summarizing data from speed dating events,…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 12:20 PM
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I'd consider "being in shape" as "looks." Some people may have underlying issues (genetic, biological, environmental, etc.) that may make it easier for them to gain weight or harder lose it or at least maintain stability. Even then, you can be in shape and people will still consider you unattractive. Other than that, these are all generally considered RMV attributes. Attractiveness is generally still the best way to get the foot in the door. You argument is basically suggesting that turds can be…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 12:10 PM
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This is key. People forget that raw attractiveness is key. You can't polish a turd.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 02:57 PM
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There's a couple obvious possibilities for this: Men have a bigger variance in what they consider attractive. You're only chasing after the top n% of men. These men have options. Have you made known how you feel about certain men by actually approaching them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 02:52 PM
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Funny how women do the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 02:48 PM
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Why is it that no one understands that your choices and actions have consequences? If you're a/were a sex worker and freely advertise it (not only that, are proud of it), people (both men and women) are going to treat you like ass. I'm not making a value judgement, just pointing out that it's not out of the realm of possibility.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/02/21 12:14 PM
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I'm a mere computer technician and I have learned very early in my life to never say exactly what is my line of work or people will ask me about anything more technological than a microwave oven I'm into software engineering/computer programming and I get the same thing. Half the time I duck out and say "that's a hardware problem"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/02/21 12:11 PM
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I'm going to play Devil's Advocate. On a date, men won’t ask me questions. You think this is a male only thing? don’t think a guy I dated for two years could tell you what I’ve done for a living for the last 10 years even tho it’s a simple job and hasn’t changed. You dated him for 2 years. What does that say about you? During sex, they care about their nut and their ego. Out of 23 partners, 3 have gone down on me. Anyone who has had 23 partners loses right to complain about having their needs me…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 10:07 AM
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Where do you find these people?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 09:47 AM
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Second, most men do receive positive and romantic attention from women. Not just some small minority. Then they should make it more obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 09:43 AM
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There's the whole "I'm socially awkward or whatever so people will think I'm creepy" fear that some men have. Some unscientific observation: women seem more comfortable talking to me randomly if I'm wearing my wedding band.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 11:22 PM
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I'm not quite sure what you're asking. A woman can deem anyone she wants worthy. But she's going to have to eventually offer him more than a couple of wet holes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 08:15 PM
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Plus diet.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/02/21 04:23 PM
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I agree that it's not the same thing. I'd argue, though, that if the incel got the same treatment as many women, sex without commitment, that they would eventually feel the same way. I mean, I've heard complaints of attractive, successful men complain about women who want them only because they are hot or have money but don't have anything to offer than a couple of wet holes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 11:27 AM
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Of course, you're going to have a preference for those who are more attractive. But I think you're missing one point that the men that complain about this make - growing up, they are told that women care less about looks and more about personality and "what's on the inside." Someone shared a video with me recently, it presented data gathered from speed dating events. They asked both men and women what they were looking for and what was important to them beforehand. Men rated attractiveness the h…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 11:03 AM
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I thought I heard a story that the British fishermen were pissed off because EU agreements forced Brittain to allow fishermen for Denmark, Norway and other countries into their waters, thus driving the British boats out of business? And the people that were losing their shirts were basically running the "family business" that was sometimes centuries old?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/02/21 04:28 PM
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I told my wife that the violence we saw this past summer and at the Capitol last month was because of (perceived) social alienation.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/02/21 04:25 PM
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You know what they say, the winners write history... Thus history is a good thing, only if it were true. ;-)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/02/21 04:20 PM
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because they're at the height of their careers (money attracts men, you see) If I were to do things over, I would have picked someone who had 0 debt, or if they had debt, it was within reason and secured. The problem is that a lot of folks have student loans and then no savings or equity in a house or other assets. they've slept around more (good in bed). The irony here is that many people get set in their ways and if they are with an inexperienced partner, won't try certain things with them.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre05/02/21 01:03 PM
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This is why I take posts like these with grains of salt. The retort I commonly hear is that many of them are just looking to hook up. But, the so called hot girls get those messages too.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/02/21 01:17 PM
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I'm not sure your post is entirely correct. It's true that men have a wider range of attraction to different types of women. But, fetishes may not be mutually exclusive and people can have many fetishes, even seemingly contradictory ones. For example, men can enjoy both large and small boobs (and everything in between). It's totally fair that someone may not enjoy everything your into and check off all your fetishes. It's up to the person to determine what fetishes are more important to them whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 12:40 PM
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Everyone has bad experiences my dear. You claim you don't like men because they lie and coerce you for sex and they can physically hurt you. I easily say all women are boring and are gold diggers. They aren't interested in me for anything other than my resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 03:04 PM
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You have a low opinion of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 03:01 PM
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Ok, then let's do this. If there was someone you found irresistible, celeb or not, and he asked you out on a date, would you be willing to pay half the bill?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 02:54 PM
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But a large chunk of communication is physical.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 02:42 PM
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I didn’t describe a relationship. This is a first date. The first date is a gateway to a relationship. If you act like an entitled ass on the first date, don't expect to be invited in. If a guy doesn’t see my value, I would very much like him to not ask me on a date. He see's your value. That's why he's asking you on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 01:39 PM
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And money doesn't mean that someone will be present. FYI, my wife bought the coffee on our first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 10:43 PM
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Money <> effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 10:39 PM
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And a man has no problem paying for dates if a woman respects his time and shows him appreciation. Men get pissed off when women spend half the date on their phone, can't carry a conversation and then come up with a bullshit reason why she doesn't want to see him anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 10:38 PM
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Then you have a warped view of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 10:36 PM
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There are other ways to show respect for your time and appreciate you. Money isn't the only way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 10:34 PM
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Are you saying I'm responsible for men abusing me? No, but it sounds like you have unresolved issues that you should deal with before accepting any dates. Dating isn't a chore, even if nothing develops with most of the people you meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 10:30 PM
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The bogey man
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 10:24 PM
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It's much simpler than that. If I'm "high value" or even "low value," it's a time/commitment issue. You're going to be #2 in her life and it's going to be harder, if not impossible, to become #1. In other words, if I had my choice: Woman A has no child, so is generally available 24/7 to do stuff, we don't have to worry about a 3rd wheel, etc. Woman B has child, so that obviously limits availability. Woman A is generally going to win out every day and twice on Sunday's. This isn't a bad thing, pe…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/02/21 12:23 PM
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free dinner strategy Well played, sir.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/02/21 12:16 PM
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Correlation is not causation
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 09:06 PM
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Not sure what the rhythm method is Basically using a calendar and guessing when you're ovulating. Like if your cycle is 28 days, you're going to guess that ovulation at day 14. The problem is that ovulation may occur at day 12 or 19 or whatever, then you're fucked (no pun intended). Of course, this doesn't work if there is any irregularity! Now, what natural family planning takes into consideration, is that there are certain cues that happen around the time a woman ovulates, usually temperature.…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/02/21 05:13 PM
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The smart guys rode the upward wave, made their money and got out by now. Just wait until Congress (I saw that Elizabeth Warren was on the case!) passes a Bill and retroactively gets the money back along with interest and penalties! Can't have the little people manipulate the markets and get away with it!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/02/21 12:53 PM
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For various reasons, my wife and I practice natural family planning, not to be confused with the rhythm method. When practiced right, it's almost as effective as an IUD. There's basically 5 days a month we can't have sex. My wife has never been pregnant.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/02/21 12:42 PM
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I've pointed this out before. There's scientific evidence that would suggest that the tingles are hormonal and are only temporary. In other words, it's common to have intense feelings of attraction at the beginning of a new relationship because of a hormonal/chemical response and this decreases over time, usually within 12-18 months. The issue I see with a lot of people (both men and women) is that they claim to want a LTR but build relationships around a temporary physical/sexual attraction and…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/01/21 02:06 PM
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I agree. I believe it's been proven to an extent that the tingles you get are largely hormonal. It's also the strongest at the beginning of a relationship and wears off within 12-18 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 08:28 PM
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I've always thought sapiosexuality was that people thought intelligence was at the forefront of attraction. Instead, it's just a fancy way of saying you don't want an airhead. Physical attraction still rules supreme.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/21 07:57 PM
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The sapiosexuality is a lie.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/21 05:57 PM
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I believe surveys have shown women are genuinely unhappier than now than they were decades ago. IIRC, suicide rates have doubled in the last 2 decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 05:29 PM
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No, they can have preferences all they want. Just don't complain when no one meets them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 04:58 PM
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Here's my opinion, based on what I've seen/experienced in my corner of the universe. A lot of dating/ltr's seem to get started based on physical attraction. Women are generally more picky when it comes to looks. It should be noted that beauty is skin deep. People's (both men and women) attractiveness generally decreases with age. This begs the obvious question, what's really more important, looks or compatibility? Another set of issues: We have a large number of babies conceived out of wedlock a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 01:46 PM
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This is the exact problem I have with a lot of the "advice" and "arguments" I see in various places. It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/21 12:22 PM
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However, "the buck stops with him" narrative is only touted out by one party when the other is in power, then conveniently change to "respect the office" when their party takes over. I never said this nor have I ever felt this way. Trump did plenty to screw the pooch when he was in office.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/01/21 01:10 PM
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Why are you focused on Biden lying? Because Trump lost and Biden was sworn in on Jan. 20th. He owns the mess now, the buck stops with him. It also doesn't help that Biden was also a Senator from 1973-2009 and VP from 2009-2017. The issue most of you people have is this: You fall down a 50 foot well. Person A throws you a rope that's 2 feet long and Person B throws you a rope that's 3 feet long. Y'all are bickering that B is better than A because B threw you the longer rope. But that's missing th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/01/21 09:02 PM
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Woman: I'm financially independent - have my own car, place graduate degree and career. I don't need no man. Also Woman: I want a man who makes more than me and buys me shit all the time.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/01/21 08:50 PM
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I'm married, thanks for playing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 01:37 AM
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Found the misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 01:35 AM
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If this is the case, the problem is not 99% of men, it's likely you. If everyone smells like dog shit, check the bottom of your shoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 01:33 AM
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If you spend your life fearing this false belief it's going to fuck up your happiness all for nothing. It's not false. What you're telling us is that you'd be willing to go out with an incel? Please use what the actual definition is, involuntarily celibate, not angry misogynists - You'd be okay with dating guys that may be fat, kind of boring, have some level of social anxiety, may not have the best job or the smartest guy out there - but he'd be nice, stable and committed anyways?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 06:19 PM
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What are these unrealistic standards that no man can measure up to? Most average women I know just want a nice, stable, guy who can be a little bit attractive and invested in her. Again, you're missing the point. You want a "nice stable guy" who is also "a little bit attractive" and "invested in her." Many times in life, you can't get all three. For example, I'm objectively not attractive, but I'm nice and stable would be invested. Also, what's going to happen when y'all get old, wrinkled and fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 06:13 PM
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This is definitely true. But you're only thinking for online dating. The average man will fare far better offline than the average woman. So maybe with online dating women have some (numerical) advantage. Whether that translates to overall greater success remains to be seen. But outside of the online realm, things change quickly. Hah. If I approached most women in real life these days, I'd be laughed at.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 04:06 PM
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And the other thing, the poster's experience is not the experience of the vast majority of women. AKA, anecdotal evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 08:58 PM
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But what’s she after? Just sex of any quality? Then yeah it’s way easier for her. But if an average man is after a relationship or Alex with someone of quality, I think he’s got it easier. The problem is you have to get someone to interact with you in order to either have casual sex or a LTR or anything in between. If a (below) average female gets 100 matches, she has a greater chance of finding what she wants than the (below) average male who gets 10. I'd argue that it also makes these men come…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 08:42 PM
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but once you fall into and just below the middle of the curve, men tend to have it easier (compared to their counterparts and getting what they want). I couldn't disagree with this part more. For example, the so called "BBW" gets a ton more attention than her male counterpart.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 08:15 PM
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Because Assange and Snowden are whistle blowers and heros, because they provided evidence that the government is ultimately corrupt.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 08:22 PM
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Because the patriarchy
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/01/21 07:58 PM
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You know how this sort of thing goes. The female half of the relationship wants to "open things up." Male half reluctantly agrees. Then the male is halfway successful while the female just gets pumped and dumped or realizes the grass isn't always greener and then wants alter the terms of the deal. By this time, the damage is already done, the toothpaste is out of the bottle.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/01/21 07:54 PM
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Oh honey... That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/01/21 07:48 PM
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If they really cared, there wouldn't be the constant stream of men through some of these women's lives, for starters.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/01/21 10:58 PM
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Then don't be obese, keep your legs closed, stay in school and all that. I mean people are fine telling others, "just lift bro."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 01:39 PM
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That said, it is a widespread phenomenon that men "aren't keeping up". Let me point this out and I'm not making any value judgements. We've told and highly encouraged a couple of generations (probably Gen X and beyond) of women to go get educated and that it's good to have a career outside of the home. So, in theory, you have 2x the number of people competing for the same seats at school and jobs as men and you may or may not have 2x the number of openings available, so some people are going to …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 03:48 PM
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Just be reasonably not a landwhale Even being a land whale is not a death sentence. Sure, you might not get as much attention as you would get if you weighed less. Let me pose these scenarios based on my experience. It's usually: Overweight men with overweight women Average men with overweight women Normally don't see overweight men with average women. If you do, it's usually because the dude has coin. This is why these posters are full of shit. Women are less forgiving of looks then men.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/01/21 02:20 PM
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It's not only the people receiving the benefit (i.e. those who take more out of the system than they pay in taxes) that will vote against it, it's also those that the pearl clutchers who will scream "will some body please think of the children?" can guilt into voting for. What I find ironic, is something I mentioned before, is quite a few of the women who I know go to church that are my age are into all this SJW crap. It is not charity to vote for people to take others money by force to redistri…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/01/21 08:47 PM
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And everyone knows history is written by the victor.....
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/01/21 08:37 PM
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Hey lady. I don't mind paying 100% of the bills. But what value are you providing me in return? Single mom's already have a strike against them - their children and all the drama that entails.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/01/21 04:57 PM
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we both redpill our nephews (16, 14 and 12) hoping they don't get taken advantage of. Yeah, I know the feeling. I worry for my niece (2.5) and nephew (4) and what it's going to be like for them when they get older.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/01/21 10:11 AM
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Women: I don't need no man because I have my own place/car/money/career/hobbies/etc. I'm a strong independent woman. Also Women: You must have a nicer place/car than me, make more money than me, have a prestigious career, and be more interesting than me in order to date me.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/01/21 05:17 PM
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Schrödinger's woman
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/01/21 05:14 PM
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The thing that these folks don't realize is.... Beauty is skin deep....
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/01/21 05:13 PM
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I feel like this whole "men pay for the first date(s)" is a scam. Have these women thought that the reverse is also true? A man needs to determine if a woman is interested and invested in a (potential) relationship. What better way to go in at least 50%? FYI... My wife paid for my coffee on our first date.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/01/21 05:03 PM
1

Never make women centre of your life. I once did this and it nearly ruined me. Luckily, I was young enough to recover and in hindsight I was making a mountain out of a mole hill.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/01/21 03:00 PM
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There's no introspection going on. Sure, it could be fragile egos and insecurities. Or it could be past behavior is an indicator of future behavior.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/01/21 02:56 PM
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Here's what I don't understand. How is it some random guys fault for this woman sleeping with nearly 100 people of both genders? Also, if this guy was looking for an LTR, why would he get into a relationship with someone who never had one or has shown to have poor self control? This even goes past sex, why has no one ever committed to her or why hasn't she committed to anyone else? Will she get bored with this guy and cheat or leave? The issue this guy has is her history and that she hasn't prov…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/01/21 03:01 PM
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Thanks for this bro.. My son really needed to hear this today after being depressed about not finding a job for the last 6 months despite getting a good education in STEM and trying his best after graduation. I can't imagine graduating and then job hunting during a pandemic. It's hard enough during normal times and for so called "experienced professionals" in the high demand STEM fields. A lot of times "to lose" doesn't makes you a loser and is not forever, just simply a point in time. I think t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/01/21 03:17 PM
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Her girlfriend is "lucky". Has nothing to do with her personality, how she behaves and interacts with people, how she presents herself to the world. Just plain old luck. I'd argue that there may be some luck, but she's increasing her odds of finding a quality match when she does the things you mention. It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/01/21 02:01 PM
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Or date guys that may have faults (might not be 10/10 or even 5/10, might be in the trades, etc.), but are generally good people.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/01/21 01:56 PM
3

As I always say, don't negotiate with terrorists!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/01/21 11:49 AM
1

It's funny how almost every guy is "not my type."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/01/21 11:39 AM
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What's funny is they reject the men that are already there.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/01/21 03:12 PM
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This is the correct definition. Sure, an incel can be bitter and angry, but that does not make an incel. I'd also argue that some of the "treating women nicely" might be from inexperience and social awkwardness, not from malice.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/01/21 02:58 PM
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and that's in spite of men queuing up around the block to take their shot with her.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/01/21 09:37 PM
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You must be new here.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/01/21 09:32 PM
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If she fails to date someone, it’s her problem, not yours. But that's what we're pointing out here on this sub.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/01/21 09:27 PM
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You're missing the point of the comments here (and this sub in general, IMHO). with. i am sure there are few dudes around her age that are willing to settle down with a decent single mom. Sure, there are plenty of guys around her age that would be willing to spend time with her. The problem is that you have this reversed: do you really think every 40 yo men are TOO GOOD for her? LOL. It's not that every 40 year old man is too good for her, it's likely that she thinks she's too good for them. She…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/01/21 09:23 PM
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So repulsive that they get almost no attention. As in 0 or 1/10. You would be surprised on some of the examples I've seen. Literal bowling balls/dwarves get more attention than one would think. I've also been blocked by some people on a specific Discord for pointing this point out - I vaguely remember a so called "BBW" complaining that there is popular fetish for BBW's. I've said something along the lines, at least you're getting someone of the opposite sex to potentially talk to you/meet you/to…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/01/21 09:11 PM
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that's before considering the reality that a large portion of women will say they are not there for hookups but their actions prove anything but that. I can't believe this has to be posted for the peanut gallery out there. The two obvious things are: She'd bend or break whatever rules she has for Chad. Her past actions determine she wasn't serious about relationships at some point.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/01/21 08:51 PM
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She doesn't want a "nice guy". There's lots of "nice guys" out there, but as I mentioned in another comment, she likely doesn't want them because muh attraction. It's like, you're on the wrong side of 40 and have baggage.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/01/21 08:48 PM
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There are a shocking number of blogs and articles from women where they insist that all men want “Victoria secret models”. They insist on it I think there has been enough anecdotal evidence over the years of people posting test profiles saying otherwise. I've even seen screen captures of some of the stuff even the most homely looking women receive and there's generally no shortage of attention. Several of these women could go out on a date every night of the week with a different man and still h…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/01/21 08:04 PM
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Let me guess, she also won't give a lick of attention to all those "creepy" men, you know, the ones who might (likewise) have a few extra pounds, a few inches too short, a little shy/socially awkward or doesn't work the right job or make enough.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/01/21 07:41 PM
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The first question I have in these situations is why didn't you leave if there was pressure to do certain sex acts that you were uncomfortable with? I mean, we have a whole system set up to help women in these situations, like shelters and what not in case of the worst situations. Also, if it was that bad, why weren't the authorities contacted about possible sexual assault? Isn't "revenge porn" like this illegal in some locales? And, the last concern I have is has she gotten counseling/therapy b…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/12/20 11:32 AM
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I vaguely remember years (about a decade and a half) ago when I did OLD, there would be women posting to asking for xmas money so they could buy gifts for their kids/family.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/12/20 11:04 AM
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The other question I have for people who claim there is a wage gap: If I can get away with paying women 80% of what men make, why not hire women only and save the difference?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/20 01:27 PM
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So let me get this straight. Women want to be able to have the same opportunities as men, so they don't have to be financially dependent on men. So, they are encouraged to go to college and get jobs. This is not a bad thing by any means, IMHO. People, male or female, should be free to make their own choices and determine how they want to live their own life. So, now that women have achieved more parity with men, they find men no longer economically attractive? What's this junk? If you don't want…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/20 01:23 PM
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Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/20 01:13 PM
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hat coupled with the fact that I am Catholic, trad catholic, You too, huh?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/20 10:31 AM
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It may not even be that - There could be a number of reasons like this that could contribute to it. Like, she's slacking with her house duties or she's only interested in starfish sex.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/20 10:30 AM
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It's so weird. A girl wants the relationship minded guy to date properly, have a job, and not hate women and you guys act like this is the antichrist. Meanwhile this is the bare minimum for so many people This is good, in theory. In reality, they want the guy to also be in shape, have no mental health issues, good looking, not be socially awkward, etc. At some point, that relationship minded guy who has a job and doesn't hate women might be short/bald/nerdy looking, might be in therapy actually …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 06:57 PM
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Touche.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 06:17 PM
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On the flip side, you have people that are relatively healthy or are addressing their issues like a responsible adult, but aren't given the time of day, like the BF in this example, because they are boring or otherwise not conventionally attractive. That starts a death spiral, because they are doing things "by the book" and having 0 success.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/12/20 02:51 PM
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These girls are usually with a guy thats much more attractive than them. I dont get it. This is what a lot of women I don't understand. A man in a similar situation would struggle to even be noticed.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/12/20 11:52 AM
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Finding the chosen one is everyone's white whale. No one can perfectly match the ideal conjectured in your head. Of course not. I didn't really say otherwise - I'm just saying if you date 100 women, you're going to have a better idea of your preferences than if you're lucky to have dated 10 women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 07:06 PM
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Being socially awkward or high functioning autistic doesn't disqualify one from being un-dateable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 07:03 PM
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Because, the argument is that some people have more choices and more opportunity to find The Chosen One. In other words, the theory is that one would hopefully make an informed decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 06:46 PM
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Yeah, but they likely have their own problems. The grass is greener.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/12/20 06:08 PM
1

I know a fellow software engineer (female) and I were kicking around this idea for awhile, where we'd do something like Tinder's ELO score or whatever, but better. For example, if you answered a high percent of messages quickly, higher score. Or somehow tracking/rating dates.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/12/20 11:42 AM
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If you're destitute, getting a non-zero amount of money is a good thing. I've heard most women treat it like a side hustle. Not going to quit the day job, but it makes things a little easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 11:56 AM
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Whatever you say, buttercup. I doubt anyone would want to see my fat ass anyways, gay or otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 08:27 PM
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Let me spell it out for you. They don't want to because the juice isn't worth the squeeze. They can do other things and make more money with less time/investments.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 08:25 PM
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I don't understand why OP has difficulty understanding this. Men have the option of degrading themselves. The question is really is it economically feasible to do so?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 08:24 PM
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Do you not understand basic economics?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 08:21 PM
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They have the option but it may not be economically lucrative to do so because only like 2% of the population identify as gay/lesbian and not all of that 2% is gay. The heterosexual male, bi and lesbian female make up the vast majority of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 08:18 PM
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I'd hazard a guess that the market for male models isn't as great as it is for females. I mean, how many male prostitutes and strip clubs are there, really?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 08:11 PM
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failing dating strategy. Congrats, you've found out what FDS really stands for.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/12/20 11:25 AM
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And even if they had casual sex, it's not like they were bringing home a different girl every day/week/month/etc.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/12/20 02:41 PM
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A couple of thoughts here. It seems to me some women are like this, they have a high libido and men are more than willing to give 'em what they want. Of course, this leads to self destructive behavior because they never learned to tame their behavior and were never told "no." This woman needs to stop chasing men for a bit - she needs individual therapy. Also, there is a group called Sexaholics Anonymous, which is modeled after AA, which may be helpful.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/12/20 02:35 PM
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I no longer find these stories surprising. At all. If you had such a deep connection with this guy in college, why did you cheat on him? Gender doesn't matter. Neither does being queer. If you had such deep seated questions about your relationship with him or your sexuality, do the right thing and dump the guy. Staying with him while you "figure things out" is essentially wanting your cake and eating it too. Whenever someone says "Oh yeah, I'll exit my current relationship for you," and keeps sa…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/12/20 06:20 PM
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I thought only depressed wierdo teenagers like myself were big fans of Kirk Cobain.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/12/20 03:26 PM
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In the end I don't know how much hyperbole plays into your statement, but women do have an easier time in general than men. It does seem like women, even ones that are less attractive or have other issues seem to have less issues getting attention from men than the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 08:46 PM
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You're over simplifying things and coming to the wrong conclusions. I'd hazard a guess that people who have attributes that others find attractive will have a higher self esteem then those that do not. In other words, it means there's a feedback loop: People that others want to be around might be less likely to feel lonely, which leads to less depression and anxiety. People that others don't want to be around leads to loneliness, which is a trigger for depression and anxiety. This is just like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 03:02 PM
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Or you find that gem and she refuses to sign a prenup because "why don't you trust her"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/12/20 02:24 PM
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Because all logic/science/proof goes out the window when we're talking about tingles. I've been married 7 years this past September. Of course there have been moments where I've questioned major life decisions like getting married - we all do that to an extent. I look at some folks I know, and it's like "sure so and so is attractive, has X, Y and Z going for them." But then I look at their relationship history and it's a huge mess of serial monogamy. It's like, why the f would I leave something …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/12/20 02:22 PM
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At the risk of coming close to breaking one of the rules, I'll just ask it: why would any guy pay to see these hoes' badly produced amateur porn when there's a whole Internet of better produced stuff for free? Unless I personally know the girl, I see no difference between paying for an onlyfans and just going on pornhub and rubbing one out. Isn't part of the allure of Only Fans is that women on there will actually interact with fans (aka people that pay)? I mean I've heard stories of men blowing…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/12/20 01:42 PM
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Sorry, but no.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/12/20 10:27 AM
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Talk about having your cake and eating it too.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/12/20 10:24 AM
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It's not just about getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 07:33 PM
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No, any women who's not morbidly obese and probably under 40-45 There's even a market for the morbidly obese women. They are going to have less choices but they still have a choice. As I've told female friends when they complain about men being thirsty, at least even obese women can get a man to touch them. The reverse is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 07:23 PM
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If guys are serious about having a family though, of course they are going to be targeting younger women for obvious reasons. But, at some point, guys don't care about age.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 07:19 PM
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I know, but it's the truth, no matter how much they want to fight you on it. You're essentially giving yourself a literal mental illness (as well as the guy you reject) with all the problematic thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 07:16 PM
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I'm hoping in to say it's good advice regardless of gender. If not getting pumped and dumped is a goal, then you have to take a good long look at your own behavior and expectations. That means you might have to stop chasing after the guy with >= 7/10 looks who has women throwing themselves at him 24/7. God forbid you might have to date someone shorter, fatter, more bald than you like. Same thing goes for men: More attractive women have men throwing themselves at them. There's not enough supermod…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 04:25 PM
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Here's what a lot of people, both men and women, don't realize. Your not that special. I mean, most people are average, by definition. Folks think that they are entitled to all this stuff, or things are going to turn out great because "you have your whole life ahead of you." What they fail to understand is we all have our proverbial cross to bear. Why do you think even the rich and famous get hooked on drugs and alcohol and even commit suicide? They are literally the top 1% in talent, looks, wea…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/12/20 03:35 PM
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"He's improved greatly but not the way I like it." Tingles, tingles, tingles 🤦🤦 As I tell my 2.5 year old niece, "Use your big gurl words." She probably hasn't told him explicitly what she likes and doesn't like. So, he assumes that whatever he's doing is okay because she didn't say "no" or "ouch." Why do you think sex is awkward between new partners?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/12/20 12:32 PM
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That's Microsoft. A lot depends on company/industry/location.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/12/20 12:28 PM
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I worked at a medium sized company where half the people had titles of "VP" or above. Or so it seemed. What I think made this the case/worse is that a lot of the actual grunt work was outsourced so basically it was just a company of managers who made sure vendors were in compliance or did sales.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/12/20 12:28 PM
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Here's what I find funny. She will likely find that men are going to be apprehensive about getting involved with her if she's got children. Because of this she'll complain about men being pigs not wanting to commit. The whole Jesus thing complicates matters. Sure, Jesus will forgive your sins, but that doesn't mean the consequences of your sins automatically goes away or you're off the hook for any restitution.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/12/20 11:39 AM
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Also, real rich for her to get mad at guys wanting to have quick sex when she was happy to indulge after her divorce. She even says there was no shame, so she is not regretful one bit. Now that she is "done with that" she wants to flip the switch back to being all about commitment. When you indulge in the very thing you complain about, do not be surprised when it is more common and widespread. Because people want to have their cake and eat it too. Why do you think open marriages and polyamory ha…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/12/20 11:29 AM
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...And it's taken her less than a month to grow dissatisfied with her new found freedom to fuck around. Because what she had probably wasn't that bad and it was stable. Now she has to go back to square one. And it it takes work to find what she had. Look, I understand the so called seven year itch and questioning major life decisions like who you dated, dumped, got married to or had kids with. A lot of people get it and it's worse for folks like myself you suffer from MDD/GAD/Possible PD's. But,…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/12/20 11:27 AM
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Too many men have found that if they don’t “escalate” women will just ghost because you become another pen pal So in that case if there is an extremely high chance of being ghosted they feel they might as well escalate Also too many women litter the apps with comments about how they don’t want to hook up. So rather than deceiving them they put the cards on the table This is kind of the paradox. They say they don't want hookups, but they don't want pen pals. either Men also know if they don't try…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/12/20 12:22 PM
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"So it's hard for me to be intimate with someone when I don't even love myself." Look, lady - if you don't love yourself and it's hard for you to get naked with a guy, THAT is what you need to fix. Men don't need to change to accommodate you - YOU need to love yourself so you can roll with the punches and take it in stride. YOU change. YOU own YOUR shit, and YOU fix it. This is a woman problem, not a man problem, not a beta problem, not a "disrespectful and pushy man" problem. I wrote something …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/12/20 12:15 PM
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This kind of attitude makes me vomit a little in my mouth when I read it. She admits she's chubby, but then complains about guys height. And then goes on about not wanting to settle. Standards are good for me, not for thee. And also - There's "standards" and then there are standards. Wanting a tall, ripped handsome Chad is what you and every other woman wants. Why the f*ck would he choose you, someone who is admittedly short and chubby? This is compounded by the fact that Chad knows women like t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/12/20 08:39 PM
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People are like that, regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 10:31 AM
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See my reply to your other comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 10:26 AM
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I think that we should eliminate certain sexual double standards but not in the way you think: we should value sexual restraint in men too. I agree. We should also eliminate aesthetic double standards by holding men to standards of fitness and dieting too. I agree in principle. The only thing I will say is that this is sometimes easier said than done as there are genetics/biological, factors socio-economic factors, mental illness related issues and so on. For example, I have several hormonal iss…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 10:25 AM
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You know, based on what I've seen here and a recent conversation I had with someone, a fair number of these women need to lay off dating for a couple of years. For example, there is this 42 year old woman I know of: She's probably a 6 or 7, she's average looking and in pretty good shape for her age. She got married at 20, had daughter at 29, divorced at 30 (rough ages) A year after divorce, she got into another relationship. It lasted 10 years. After 10 year relationship ended, she got involved …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/12/20 04:54 PM
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Wasn't there research where women were showed profiles of men, and they favored better looking men even though their profiles were weaker? In other words, an average or even dorky looking engineer who had stable high paying employment and interesting hobbies did worse than better looking men who didn't have those attributes, even though women in general claimed looks matter less?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 11:14 AM
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This is funny because it's true. The amount of women who give away the milk for free is quite disturbing. And then they wonder why they get pumped and dumped.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/12/20 09:47 PM
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I am not an incel myself (non virgin) but I totally get a few of the points of the black pill. I spent around half of my dating life (13+ years) as what you'd consider an incel. I am married and I fear if the worst happened, I would revert back. If you point out the logical flaws it leads to an hysterical breakdown and name calling. And this is what we call the Ad Hominem Fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 11:56 AM
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No incel actually thinks personality doesn't play into it, it's just your strawman that talks like that. The point is that looks matter way more. This - I've found there's a lot of straw men floating around about the incel community. I think it mostly comes from looking at the spaces where they go to vent, and I wouldn't say that's a good way to get a look at people. You're dealing with a lot of negative raw emotions and people generally at their lowest points.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 11:05 AM
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Far fewer people go to church, neighborhoods where people interact and socialize are the exception rather than the rule, families rarely setup matches anymore, etc. My mom's parents and their siblings all lived in the same neighborhood growing up. I believe my mom's uncle asked my grandmother out, she declined and then ended up marrying the sister of my grandfather.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 10:52 AM
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This is what has happened to me anyway and I don't know if it's possible to fix it. You too, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 10:49 AM
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I don't think anyone here has ever said "personality doesn't matter". It's just that looks are maybe 60% of the game and personality and status the other 40%. You're correct. Looks basically get your ticket punched, no questions asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 10:47 AM
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This is good to point out. I'd also say that this is a classic death spiral/chicken-and-egg for many people - You're bullied or whatever (i.e. something bad happens) so you isolate. You don't get practice at using social skills because you're isolating. But, you continue to isolate because you don't have social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 10:43 AM
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It doesn't even have to be a profile like this. There are plenty of normal looking people out there that have massive amounts baggage.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/12/20 12:47 PM
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The vast, vast VAST majority of incels are lonely to the point of being broken. I'd say most of them are broken. I spent my teenage years and a good number of my young adult years as what would be considered an "incel" by any reasonable metric/definition. I contest that has caused my various mental illnesses/personality disorder that I'm dealing with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 05:18 PM
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You win the Internet for the day. I don't think I've ever met an incel (or talked with one online) that ever advocated violence. Most have been annoying and socially awkward at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 05:15 PM
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Not true. I spent roughly half of what would considered my dating live (13+ or so) as an "incel." I met my wife at 26 and I just turned 40. I would have dated anyone that was nice and reasonably intelligent. Of course, everyone wants to date the head cheerleader, but that's not always feasible.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 02:23 PM
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What people don't understand is there's no such thing as a free lunch, and the American taxpayer is going to end up holding that stinky bag of flaming shit. Just "canceling" it isn't going to solve the underlying causes of high education costs that are increasing at a higher rate than inflation.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/12/20 04:10 PM
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Edit: my first comment here and I’m instantly banned from fds subreddit wow They can't have anyone question the Dogma. I mean, I disagree with some of the posters here and their opinions, but I recognize their valid points they are making. For example, I'd date women on the more overweight side of things (hell, I married one). But, I can understand why this may not be everyone's first preference.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/12/20 04:02 PM
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If you look at the woman's complaint, aside from the fact that she doesn't want to face the consequences of her choices, what she's really complaining about is that she cannot find an attractive partner. She could probably lower her standards and find someone but she'd rather complain, seek attention and pity, than take action. Poor baby, you might have to marry the nerdy fat guy with the stable job. Boo Fricken' Who.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/12/20 03:54 PM
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Oh God, no. You and /u/twunting are making great points here. Recent example: My wife and I know a woman from various (Catholic) church groups over the years. She ended up buying the whole straw man argument that the people that are pro-life and are voting working against abortion are only really pro birth, and they don't give two shits about anyone after they exit the womb and that true pro lifers care about things like food stamps. social security, immigration, etc. You know the type - they wi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/12/20 03:53 PM
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Orange man made some mean Tweets.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/12/20 03:36 PM
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I feel so much better not playing the game at all. A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/12/20 03:54 PM
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Isn't this the Hot/Crazy curve? The more attractive a woman is, the more BS you're willing to put up with?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/12/20 03:46 PM
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it's because almost every single mom is a choosing beggar with nothing to offer. I see it as "I have unresolved baggage from previous relationships. Now, here are my demands!" It's like, honey, you're in no position to negotiate. I would date a woman who is not conventionally pretty (i.e. average looks or overweight/obese) over a single mom every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 12:28 PM
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Sure, it's a blanket statement. But there's two points: What made the father leave? Was it because he was a wimp or did the woman have a role to play? Father's that die is an exception to the rule. We're generally talking about people in the west in their child bearing years and generally well under 50. People easily live into their 70's these days. I believe that accidents, homicide and suicide are the biggest killers of people under 45.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 07:59 PM
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Being a single mother only shows that you lack judgement to pick a suitable partner that won’t leave you or your kids. This can go the other way too. What did the woman do that was so bad that the man wanted to leave? Or, which one left because lack of muh tingles? I have a male family member basically walk out on his wife of decades because she made him miserable. He at least waited until the kids were all out on their own at least, and he basically left the house to her - he's well off so it w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 07:18 PM
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Yet, there's going to be men simping all over this. I can forgive a lot of stuff (even stuff regarding weight/looks), but the attitude of "I have kids and I refuse to work" is pretty concerning.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/11/20 04:13 PM
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I wouldn't say they resent single mom's, but they are at a disadvantage. There's a couple of reasons. I've dated single moms back in the day, and it seemed like it was always harder to organize dates. Which I don't blame them, their kids take precedent over meeting strangers. Even if you date and like the girl, that doesn't mean that you're going to be a good fit with the kids. And then there's the whole "you're not my dad" aspect. On a more fundamental level, I think men have an issue with thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 01:55 PM
114

Why does it seem that every relationship is abusive? I mean when I think of abuse, it's literally beating the shit outta someone or calling someone stupid whore all the time or rape. If it's just arguments and disagreements, that's not abuse. That's life.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/11/20 02:36 PM
2

They have it made in the shade then. This is akin to that rich Ricky kid complaining he only got two new bikes that weren’t his favorite color while poor Peter gets a new pair of socks and is grateful to keep his toes warm.. If the rich kid didn’t get all he wanted for Christmas in every way including a new smartphone the somehow it means he had as much of a crappy and depressing Christmas as poverty Peter did. This is exactly it. I hear women complain that "all men just want to bang." First, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 11:58 AM
3

I don't think anyone but the extreme angry edge are getting mad at quality women wanting quality men. I would take this further: I think folks get annoyed when their choices in dating/marrying the opposite sex never lined up with their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 12:26 PM
3

If the last year has taught me anything, it's just reinforced the fact that we are regressing into primordial pond scum.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/11/20 03:11 PM
1

I think some girl that was in my HS is a grandmother a few years ago. Keep in mind we've been out of HS for 22 years or so.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/11/20 03:04 PM
3

I'm a single mom of 5. Here are my demands.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/11/20 03:00 PM
2

My wife and I are generally the same way. Sometimes, it drives her nuts, but I've explained we are different people and it's unfair to expect someone else to completely capitulate and give up their interests or personality for someone else. My married guy friends were awestruck when I told them that... their wives would never go along with that. I know one of my wife's friends in particular has talked shit behind my back to my wife about how we do things. But, the problem is her husband is compl…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/11/20 02:46 PM
1

Yeah right, no one's going to believe you got too tired of being banged by Chad and Tyrone. I came here to say this.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/11/20 02:30 PM
3

But even an ugly girl can have sex any time she wants it. (That's why there's no such thing as a female incel or "femcel.") If you make a fake Tinder profile using pics from a fat ugly woman and say, "DTF if you bring pizza," you could have guys lined up outside your door with pizzas within an hour. This. You'd be surprised. You don't even have to mention the DTF part and you'll have dudes queuing up.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/11/20 02:29 PM
7

Most are not Christians. Even going further in light of recent events, a lot of them have bought the whole Orange Man Bad and Democrats good propaganda hook line and sinker [1]. A case can be made that this is rabidly anti-Christian and essentially voting against their interests if they were indeed Christian. [1] This is not an endorsement of Trump.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/11/20 02:19 PM
6

Too bad all other women like them too. I'd argue that if you're that attractive, you're more likely to have people of the opposite sex throwing themselves at you, so the opportunity would be there. If one is so concerned about cheating, why not stay in your lane with your looks match?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/11/20 06:57 PM
16

If you're Chad, none of that matters. You can literally be a pedo and they wouldn't care.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/11/20 06:53 PM
9

Overcooked/burned.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/11/20 06:52 PM
5

lying, cheating buffoon Pot calls kettle black. I know of plenty of women that are 35-40ish and at least didn't get knocked up or married/divorced and have even kept in decent shape. In other words, on the surface they did the right things. I've then wondered why they aren't married by now and have their 2.5 kids and white picket fence. I mean I'm a fat ass dope and even I got married. Of course, then it hit me, this name calling of men is projection, they are really the ones that are insufferab…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/11/20 06:50 PM
5

Maybe you should have thought how people would look at these arrangements before you hopped in?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/11/20 03:42 PM
7

Second point: no one told you to ride the CC and follow the tingles. This is the crux of the matter. I guarantee that they likely weren't sexually assaulted by these guys.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/11/20 08:20 PM
2

It's a common misconception that "incels" are all autistic guys in their mom's basement who do nothing to improve themselves as well as bitch and moan all day.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/11/20 08:18 PM
29

I got downvoted into oblivion for saying that in my experience guys that do the big gestures and put their gf on a pedestal get walked all over by the girl and dumped when someone “exciting” starts showing interest. I tell my wife all my life I never put women on a pedestal, including her. I tell her I expect to act like a grown up and that respect is a two way street and earned. When I was 19 I simped all over a girl and it nearly ruined me. Another example is my wife and I know another couple …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/10/20 08:20 PM
2

I love this question. It's like they have 20+ years of baggage that makes then less attractive.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/10/20 10:42 PM
7

This is the problem for many men - they want some sort of positive feedback loop in order to continue the chase. In this case, we want to know that a woman is actually interested and open to being pursed by someone specific. In my dating days, I know a lot of women who basically were standoffish (they wouldn't ignore you, but they wouldn't go out of their way to make conversation, etc.) at best to calling you a creep at worst. Even if the former liked you, any vaguely socially conscious men figu…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/10/20 10:38 PM
4

This is the result of decades of insistence that "women don't need men" and "men and women are exactly the same." Well duh, men aren't going to approach like they use too.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/10/20 10:24 PM
1

Would this imply that she would be okay with these sorts of messages from attractive guys? Of course. It's the same as the hot/bitchiness curve - the more attractive someone is, the more BS they are willing to put up with.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/10/20 01:22 PM
1

If she's anything like feral cats, expect to be hissed at and scratched.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/10/20 06:42 PM
3

Why would she not want the men in her backyard? What's so special about men from a foreign land? You know, there was a time, maybe like 100 years ago, give or take a few years, that people basically married other people literally in their back yard. Both sets of grandparents basically grew up in the same neighborhood.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/10/20 06:40 PM
5

I swear it's become a high percentage now than it use to be back in the day, and I haven't been an active user in decades now.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/10/20 06:35 PM
13

And then people are selfish enough to abort their babies. "You're only pro birth" is such a straw man.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/10/20 06:34 PM
2

Sure, it's possible to find a man like this. However, it's highly improbable and almost 100% unlikely and even if they chance upon the jackpot and find a guy like this, they'll eventually get bored with him too. Example #1: Jada and Will Smith
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/10/20 09:09 PM
11

I don't negotiate with terrorists.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/10/20 03:21 PM
8

4 out of 10 looks, 1 out of 10 attitude
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/10/20 11:27 AM
13

Critics will say that his resentment is all about how she won't perform "certain acts" for him. Anal, they mean anal. But that's not really the issue. The issue is that regardless of what type of sex they have, with him she is only capable of doing it infrequently and unenthusiastically. I'd argue that the critics are only half right and don't go to the logical ending that you elude too. They would do the most kinky stuff if they were sexually attracted to you.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/10/20 05:42 PM
1

I knew a woman who was married and divorced twice well before she was 35 or so. One of my friends wanted to date her. I told him to think about it for a second. She may bye nice and all, but she got legally entangled to someone and then that relationship failed. It didn't happen once, but twice. As they say there is 3 sides to every story, what he says, what she says and the truth and you're only getting once piece of that.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/10/20 07:53 PM
3

It's my, possibly incorrect, understanding that some of the markers are present even if someone isn't currently beating the shit out of you.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/10/20 07:48 PM
3

I have two thoughts about this sort of thing, and it was posed as a question in PPD recently. People have a hard time understanding a man's feeling in this situation, but it's quite simple: She may have gave Chad the kinkiest or most taboo sex right away, but makes you wait for the vanilla stuff. In other words, she has a history of giving Chad, who she just met that evening, bj's in the bathroom of a night club. But she won't do it for you because "she tried it before and thinks it's gross." Sh…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/10/20 11:16 AM
14

And yes, if he was a piece of shit, she should have vetted him before allowing him to spray her uterus with fuck chowder. I'm going to say something unpopular: This concept is one of the only things FDS gets right.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/09/20 01:43 PM
1

Not entirely true. Catholics, for example, don't believe the divorce itself is a sin, but it's the attempt at getting married again while the ex is among the living that's problematic as it falls under adultery.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/09/20 10:10 AM
1

You won the Internet for the day, sir. This is what it boils down to for a lot of men - a lot can be forgiven and worked with, just don't be crazy/insane/bitchy.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/09/20 08:38 PM
1

AWALT. Entitlement and hypergamy go hand-in-hand. They all believe they 'deserve' a Chad. champagne taste on a beer budget
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/09/20 08:31 PM
1

That was a classic scene, BTW.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 03:16 PM
37

And people wonder why some of us are black pilled. Exhibit #1 here....
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/09/20 08:18 PM
1

I was quite disappointed when I joined their Discord.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/09/20 10:35 PM
2

It's too bad. The millenials, at least until about 2008, were damn close to being colorblind. Most of them went out of their way to be non-racist and open to people. Now, well it's like that classic greentext. I vaguely remember reading something about how many/most people thought race relations were getting better, or at least trending the right way up until Obama took office. I forget the exact wording of the reports/surveys.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/09/20 10:14 PM
7

Oh, stupid me. I should have known better. I've literally had women in PPD tell me all that really matters is personality, dressing nice and eating your veggies.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/09/20 04:22 PM
6

She would have more male attention than she knew what to do with at that point... a seller in a seller's market. She probably has more male attention than she knows what to deal with. If she even tried #2 on your list, she'd be in even better shape.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/09/20 04:18 PM
8

She’s a 2 who wants 8s, So, between the two of them, that's a 10, right?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/09/20 04:12 PM
6

Whenever I read these stories, these people need therapy. And lots of it. But that takes self awareness and humility.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/09/20 04:06 PM
8

I saw this on You Tube, but didn't someone do an experiment on Tinder with a picture of a hot guy and the profile said "I'm a pedo" and still got matches and conversations from women?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/09/20 09:09 AM
8

Sure, but let's be pragmatic for a second. Why would I date someone who, at the beginning of a relationship, will be "hard to get?" As in, you have to fit into her plans and what not. I remember when I was dating in college, I could go on dates with 2-3 other women before I got to date a single mom. Additionally, you are not only dating her but her child(ren). She may also have plenty of ex drama. Now, why the would I want to date someone like this when there are plenty of other single women wit…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/08/20 11:08 AM
29

Fat women will do everything under the sun but lose the fucking weight. Not only that: They expect fit and conventionally attractive men to date them and eventually wife them up. A friend was telling me a story about some girl who was 6' or something and was overweight but not obese. She would post selfies from time to time complaining about how men would ghost her for dates and stuff and she'd whine about her body and do men like it? So, my friend approached her and asked her on a date. Of cour…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/08/20 11:01 AM
3

But doing the bare minimum is all it takes. I fell in love with personalities. I can almost assuredly tell you this is the exception, not the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 06:42 PM
0

Not automatically, but you've dug yourself a hole that most women have never gotten out of with me anyways. It comes down to a couple of reasons: I'm going to be competing with your kids for attention, especially at early stages of a relationship. You've shown extremely poor judgement
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 05:28 PM
13

To the point they actively mock it on their subreddit because they don't believe it works? Because most folks have a cap on how attractive they can become. There are genetic, environmental, social and class variables at play here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 02:45 PM
71

I've called out these women who supposedly are into/appreciate body acceptance. They absolutely hate being called out on their hypocrisy. What it boils down to: They want all the hot guys to accept them for who they are. If "you're not their type" they won't give two shits about you, which is kind of ironic.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/08/20 02:25 PM
3

Gym pics with no tops on? check No hookups? check showing plenty of skin herself? check Oh the irony!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/08/20 09:10 AM
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All the decent men are already married or too good for a low value woman like yourself?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/08/20 03:58 PM
1

It's not so much that men are being told to have sex with obese women, but you can find plenty of articles and other instances where obese women feeling like they shouldn't have to settle and subsequently feel lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 07:33 PM
1

But there's a difference between plunging toilets and having sex as your day job.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/08/20 02:26 PM
5

But the flip side is that eventually these women would stop having children out of wedlock or with shitty guys. One could argue that one of the reasons single parenthood has skyrocketed is because there's a social safety net for people who are making poor decisions.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/08/20 02:23 PM
3

Helping her out would presumably include telling her what she's doing is not right.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/08/20 02:20 PM
3

No FWB, but shows plenty of cleavage/skin
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/08/20 02:25 PM
0

Grammar.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/08/20 02:24 PM
1

If it walks like a duck......
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/08/20 09:32 AM
2

2 kids and her sorry ass?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/08/20 09:16 AM
1

Classic Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3XkgbOFyJU
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 10:18 AM
9

“body shaming”. I've noticed the women that scream this are some of the biggest shamers themselves.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/08/20 02:21 PM
7

Holy Fuck........
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/08/20 04:08 PM
2

You're the exception to the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 03:35 PM
2

It's quite simple really. Many women have standards that are out of whack with what they offer or straight up have double standards. For example, I've seen overweight and obese women fat shame men. Additionally, they will turn around and complain that men need to be body positive and that they can't find anybody. In other words, they hold men to a standard/behavior that they themselves do not hold. Having a rather long list of "must haves" where most of them are inconsequential to a successful L…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 03:26 PM
10

Oh, the irony writes itself.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/08/20 01:34 PM
2

“be respectful, hit it off, and have similar likes” These standards only count if he's Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 09:49 AM
4

This is sort of similar to how I think it use to be in the US, where it was basically property owners only had the right to vote.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/08/20 07:59 PM
1

If he said that, then it was a small part of the whole thing he said. Or he was lying. To be fair, we hear all the time that it is "what's on the inside that counts," but reality is that many people are really shallow. He's probably thinking that the thin, confident guy has always been in there and he's finally hitting his stride.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/08/20 06:49 PM
1

Flip the genders There is quite the double standard here.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/08/20 06:41 PM
9

That all changes when someone is a solo parent, as their children end up being more important to them than any potential life partner. This is it. I've dated single moms, and trying to do anything many times is a chore, as the children come before you especially at early stages. Then, there's potential drama with the father(s) of the children. And more drama with the kids "because you're not their real dad." Sometimes the juice is not worth the squeeze.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/08/20 02:41 PM
7

And what pisses me off no single mom wants to talk to younger people how its not cool to be a slut, its not cool to be a sex doll for chad. That is NOT empowering. I know of at least one woman, who I have mentioned on here before. She had multiple abortions, starting at 15. She now regrets her behavior of the past, and actually goes and talks about her experiences and how it left her sad, lonely and empty. The amount of hate she gets is insane. I feel for the woman.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/08/20 12:45 PM
8

Just compare how many men are demonstratively willing to date a fat chick versus how many women are willing to date a fat dude. A story about my past: I've always been a bit on the chunky side. I actually was diagnosed with some hormonal/metabolic issues that make it harder for me to lose/keep off weight. And long story short, I've tried different approaches over the years with the help of professionals to help at least stabilize things, so it's not just as simple as "just lift bro." Of course a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/08/20 12:38 PM
3

It’s crazy that she cannot think analytically to even a modest degree. That's because they don't teach that in your typical Women's Studies program at college.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/08/20 01:03 AM
12

Secondly, who do you think you are that you get to call people losers? You know who tends to be closer to loser-like? People who think they can call other people losers. It's their own insecurity and to make themselves feel better for being utter failures. Women can get away with trash articles like this because most of them are born with the proverbial silver spoon in their mouth by virtue of being female, because any criticism is deemed misogynist. When I was dating before I met my wife, my ob…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/08/20 01:02 AM
3

And how come the workforce isn't 100% women if you can pay them less?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/08/20 12:24 AM
1

Even a fat slob of a woman has more dating success than her male counterpart. Women are at least acknowledged and can occasionally get some attention.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/08/20 04:40 PM
1

You're correct here. It's ironic how much this happens. Then they turn around and complain that they feel like cum dumpsters and no one wants to date them long term. It's human nature to want to get with the hottest person. But there's not enough to go around, so you have to do a risk/benefit analysis to decide what you can live with or not.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/08/20 04:34 PM
5

If you didn't want me at my worst, then you don't deserve me at my best.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/08/20 01:13 PM
3

I always like to remind people that many times beauty is skin deep. What are these folks who claim muh tingles do when y'all are old, fat and wrinkled?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/08/20 01:00 PM
5

Women who are over weight blame men for not dating them. They specifically blame Chad for not dating them. They ignore their looks match.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/08/20 12:48 PM
9

I'm still a fat ass, but this goes to show the hypocrisy of society. From my personal experience, it seems that it's pretty easy to get into a death spiral, because of stuff like "you're a good person, but you're too fat/short/inexperienced/etc." Maybe if we supported people a bit more, we'd all be pleasantly surprised. I think this situation should be a lesson for the letter writer in the article. It's apparent she is chasing tingles and ended up with a shitty guy. Then, some other guy she reje…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/08/20 12:47 PM
6

"Abusive Relationship" = "My SO told me no once"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/08/20 12:21 PM
1

I see what you did there.....
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/08/20 12:11 PM
13

I had a friend complain once about all the "filtered" pictures. He's fairly attractive so he gets a lot of attention. He only puts like one or two pictures on his profile. He says you wouldn't believe how many women keep begging him "send me more pictures, you only have one."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/08/20 12:09 PM
6

Additionally, the 21 year old is unlikely to have the attitude, entitlement and baggage that Tomi has. She's been engaged at least twice. What does that tell you? She's likely an insufferable bitch.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/08/20 07:11 PM
6

You can tell her rules only apply to the top 10% of men. And she'd even bend or outright ignore some of her self professed rules if the guy in question is Chad. If Chad texts here at 1am for a booty call, she'd likely be over in no less than 5 minutes, with all of her make up on.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/08/20 07:07 PM
5

You win the internet for the day. You have NO FUCKING IDEA the sacrifices I've made to get here. But I'm not over six feet, I'm not famous, and I don't look like Brandon Fricke. So you'd reject me without a second look. As I've pointed out elsewhere, she wouldn't give the average Joe a chance even if he met all of her "demands" that are in the video. It just would be just a different reasons why men are trash - Not good looking enough, too thin, too fat, doesn't make enough money, went to trade …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/08/20 07:05 PM
2

"It will be a cold day in hell when I chase a man, unless he's Chad." FTFY
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/08/20 02:44 PM
4

There's a reason for that, and airheads like Tomi don't get it. They aren't high maintenance, have no baggage and probably more devoted to the man that she'll ever be.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/08/20 02:38 PM
6

Dude, you've ever seen some of the women in the "Housewives" franchise before they had any plastic surgery done? And without any make up on? Would make you hurl.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/08/20 02:36 PM
14

There is nobody out there who is worth it. The entire dating scene is comprised of women like Ms. Lahren bringing nothing to the table apart from depreciating looks, a lack of homemaking skills or desire, and an insatiable series of demands, all while doing nothing but bitching about how men aren't enough and there aren't any "good" men out there. I've heard some analysis that basically contends that many women are trying too hard to be men. If a man wanted to date a man, he'd be gay or somethin…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/08/20 02:32 PM
8

I mean look at what Jada did to Will Smith, who's probably the top 1% of the top 1%. Nothing surprises me.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/08/20 02:29 PM
16

"Or when you text have a plan" Rollo had a 2+ hour deconstruction of the video. He made the point that if you're Chad, the "rules" go out the window. If Chad texted her at 1am, she'd be over in 15 minutes.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/08/20 02:26 PM
2

As I've pointed out yesterday the positivity is basically a double standard.... "Body acceptance for me, not for thee." In other words, they want Chad to accept her but God forbid anyone else does. I love watching the incessant bitching some of these women do.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/08/20 08:01 PM
1

It's fine to have standards, but what people are generally refer to shallowness is when an individual eliminates a large chunk of the population over seemingly trivial matters. Being "too short" may not matter in the long run if your goal is to have an LTR, get married and have a family. Additionally, this is compounded by people that might too short or fat or whatever themselves, but expecting a tall and ripped partner to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 04:18 PM
1

Nope, not at all, assuming that she was willing and enthusastic to have sex with me anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 02:18 PM
17

This, boys. I'm surprised she hasn't mentioned anything about height or looks requirements. I've found that many of these women are shooting for top tier men, who have options. Then they turn around and bitch that they can't get dates or a relationship longer than a few weeks. So called body positivity/acceptance only applies to Chad.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/08/20 12:15 PM
15

I know locally a local church group bought an old convent, fixed it up and made it into a shelter for pregnant women who were in need (like they were kicked out because they got pregnant or their boyfriend/husband beat them) as an alternative to being forced to have an abortion. I also know of another church group that will stand across the street from Planned Parenthood with literature, supplies, etc. They make it a point that someone is always there when the clinic is open, rain or shine. You …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/08/20 08:06 PM
2

I believe my wife was watching that show, or a show with a very similar premise. Our take away was similar to yours.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/08/20 01:55 PM
14

"Body positivity for me, not for thee"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/08/20 01:29 PM
3

Here's one thing I've noticed when living life: A lot of these women are literally chasing Chads - you know guys who are generally fit and even have 6 packs. But, what they don't realize is that every other woman wants this too. So, the women in this situation have a couple of choices if companionship is that important: Offer something to unique to Chad. Simply opening your legs for him is not good enough as he likely has more attractive options in this space. Lose the weight Find someone who is…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/08/20 01:27 PM
2

Sexual attraction isn't only about appearance. Chemistry and compatibility are also important. If you don't have these things in first months/year of your relationship, it would be really hard to develop them later. Of course, but it rarely works out that way. Recently, several articles were posted to /r/wherearethegoodmen where women who were over weight were complaining about men not sticking around or at all. I almost guarantee you that they are trying to go after the good looking men (who wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 12:28 PM
2

And personally I wouldn't like dating a person who I'm not attracted to. What is the point? The problem is that beauty is skin deep. I believe it's been scientifically shown that the so called initial feelings of love/lust/attraction (forget what the exact term that's been used) wears off over time, and doesn't matter how "hot" someone is. Where to you think the term "7 year itch" comes from?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 12:14 PM
16

You'd be surprised how much action so called ssbbw's (I didn't hear that term until recently) get.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/08/20 12:49 AM
5

Again with the hypocrisy. You f*cked every other guy in town and have the proof.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/08/20 12:45 AM
4

Why the fuck do you derive joy from this? No one here gets joy from this. We are just pointing out the hypocrisy - if getting married and having a family was a life goal, she has been doing a poor job of finding a man.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/08/20 02:34 PM
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I don't think people are aware of the scale of just how destructive this has been to many people. I know people personally who are very much affected by this and haven't worked since February, having to liquidate their IRAs, think about sleeping in cars, etc. I believe I saw a recent interview with the CDC head or some other big wig there, and basically they have seen a giant spike in mental illness including suicides, domestic violence and drug/alcohol related problems. I've even seen CDC estim…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/08/20 02:29 PM
4

A couple of random thoughts... What I've found is many women were sold the fact that they can do whatever men can do and want to be treated as interchangeable. This is fine and all, if people want to pursue careers or degrees or whatever, irrelevant criteria such as gender or race shouldn't be held against them. The problem is that no one ever addressed the hypergamy. How much do you want to bet this woman wants the man to make more money than her? Or have a PhD? She's likely not going to consid…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/08/20 02:19 PM
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No man available who matches every box they've ticked in the shopping list of hoops any prospective man must jump through in the hope of being picked, so no "Happily Ever After" as the ending. I've always contended love is mostly a choice as no one is going to tick off all boxes and there is always something that's going to piss you off. Additionally, those initial tingles wear off. Also, people age or get sick or have accidents. What happens then? Going to trade your partner in for the new(er) …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/08/20 11:10 AM
4

give up things like ‘muh tingles’. muh tingles are temporary anyways.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/07/20 11:46 AM
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They just blame it on us as thats easier. I can't tell you how many women I've had tell me that "men have never made me cum"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/07/20 03:15 PM
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I know of some women who had their come to Jesus moment and they now give talks to various groups. Most of them all admitted that they wanted to be viewed as the fun girlfriend and didn't have much else to offer like flunking out of school, had no hobbies, etc.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/07/20 03:09 PM
1

Uh, it sounds like she had issues because she got dumped by some guy. Jesus Christ..... The point is she dumped a good guy because she thought she could do better. She then gets into a relationship with a douche bag that left her a mess. Fits this sub perfectly, showing female hypergamy, or at least the attempt.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/07/20 11:01 PM
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I agree. But, unfortunately: There's many women (and men) that haven't fully realized their talents. I know (and know of) several women that basically ruined their lives to some extent because they wanted to be the "sexy, fun and exciting" girlfriend" instead of using their so called gifts to lure a partner. This is a blue pill lie that many men have to swallow the hard way. You wouldn't date or even give him a chance if he was obese but fine in every other way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 12:22 AM
1

It's interesting that she rejected him because she had fear of experiencing an average life without enough excitement. Many folks don't realize most people are average, by definition.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/07/20 12:07 AM
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Not making excuses, just pointing out that this doesn't exactly fit the sub. I disagree. She got PTSD because she dumped the man she was with when she was younger because she thought she could do better. "Better" got her PTSD in the first place.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/07/20 12:05 AM
1

Then what's your conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 09:04 PM
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It should be fairly obvious. If a woman is willing to give it up after a short amount of time, it's reasonable to conclude that sex is the only thing she has to offer or has self image issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 08:59 PM
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Because the woman doesn't offer anything outside of the bedroom. Sorry ladies....
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 08:52 PM
2

a religious hypocrite What I find ironic here is: She'll will sleep and live with someone who she's not married too. She will discard the majority of men because of muh tingles
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/07/20 12:24 PM
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No honey, it has nothing to do with your beauty: You're likely low skill/low IQ. Who willingly has 8 kids and not be in a long term committed relationship with their dad? In other words, are you too stupid to not understand how contraception and pregnancy works? Even if you do, it shows a complete lack of judgement and self control. I can see her applying to low wage jobs like cashier or whatever. But then has to put stipulations on her time, because she's a single mom to 8 kids and the dad(s) a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/07/20 11:00 AM
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doing nothing other than getting railed bareback by every Tyrone who says hello. I have top wonder what goes through these women's minds.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/07/20 10:53 AM
1

And you also forget, any rules get bent or go out the window if you're Chad.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/07/20 02:28 PM
1

I felt dirty reading that thread and some of the comments. The obvious question is what did she think was going to happen? Even with more liberalized views regarding sex, there is still a stigma around sex work. People would literally have more respect for her if she went on welfare instead of resorting to prostitution. Even if you found a "clean cut" guy that was okay with your past, the fact that you're still working as a cam girl is going to be a deal breaker. She's also not thinking things t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/07/20 05:35 PM
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Along these same lines: when men earn more than women, that's called "a wage gap" and it's a terrible tragedy that must be fixed by society. I've read/heard heard articles that the wage gap is not as bad as we're told to believe. First, I give you articles like these. If there was in fact a wage gap, there would be less bitching about finding men that aren't making enough money. Second, if a company could pay women 85% of what they pay men, wouldn't it be smart to hire only women? That's a savin…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/07/20 09:38 PM
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So, this is what I don't understand. Feminists don't want to women to be forced to marry for purely economic reasons. Fine, and I don't blame them to an extent. We encourage women to go to college and take more non-traditional jobs. Again, nothing wrong with using your talents to make a living. But, what do you think was going to happen when you basically try to double the workforce and the economy can't absorb all the extra labor? Someone is getting the short end of the stick....
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/07/20 06:27 PM
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Great post, btw. I'm both married and religious, so I'm out of the game, Same here. If she doesn't put out (especially if he knows she's not a virgin), he will feel disrespected and move on, but if she does put out then he knows she's just another easy lay and move on for that reason. I'm going to take this even further. It's not just a standard easy lay, it's also what she's willing to do/not do. It seems like a lot of these women that are more experienced are set in their ways and are generall…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/07/20 10:11 AM
9

How about.. Stop spreading your legs for every man I'm going to say something unpopular, but this one spot where FDS is on the right track: if you're looking for a relationship and continually getting pumped and dumped, step one is stop giving up the milk, first thing.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/07/20 08:00 PM
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As always, why do I feel some important details are left out? This girl sounds like the typical Plain Jane/Basic Bitch who is likely trying to chase Chad. Since Chad had his choice of women, her panties came off too early because she wanted to be the Fun Girlfriend(tm). Now, she's 30, has a unfulfilling career and is lonely. She's going to have to adjust her expectations.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/07/20 07:56 PM
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4'11" I bet she rejects anyone below 6'
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/07/20 02:07 PM
4

Let us assume the worst about Trump and he's got some mental issues. He's still more successful than this THOT.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/07/20 02:05 PM
2

Holy f*cking irony.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/07/20 05:21 PM
9

In my dating days, I once had a woman give the excuse that she didn't get tingles and one of the reasons was "I didn't ask her a single question" in the 90 minutes or so we met. It was the truth, but we weren't exactly sitting there not saying anything either. It just so happened she got me started on some topics and kept asking follow ups - I did work and study abroad in my more youthful days and she seemed interested in hearing my stories. In other words it was just the flow of the conversatio…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/07/20 09:27 PM
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"And that's why you're 42 and not in a relationship/married/have a family" I was talking with a female acquaintance and she basically said she wanted "chemistry" with guys to date them. I almost told her the above. Sometimes, it's gotta be a choice, and you can't use every little thing against someone.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/07/20 08:34 PM
1

And there you have it folks, men are just rabid animals foaming at the mouth to commit crimes, so we should just do nothing to fix this long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 07:09 PM
1

But they are more than willing to foster an environment that makes this more likely. And of course you don't want to take any responsibility for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 06:58 PM
1

Single mothers are still not as bad as murderers and rapists. Well, studies show that children in single parent households tend to commit more crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 06:55 PM
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Will Smith is essentially the top 1% all-in-one-package man, good looks, wealthy, well-spoken and charming etcetera, and this woman still cheated on him with her son's friend. You would be hard pressed to do much better than Will Smith. Yet, Jada got greedy. To make matters worse, she failed to take any accountability for her unfaithfulness, she didn't call it "cheating" once during their interview. Because it's playing word games to let yourself sleep at night.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/07/20 06:35 PM
6

There's still a market for that kinda thing. Simps gonna simp.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/07/20 03:55 PM
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blow most of the money quite literally.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/07/20 03:53 PM
5

In other words, it lets you know who the idiots really are.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/07/20 01:04 PM
2

That's not optimal but better than no attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 03:53 PM
1

That's because they go to "shady" doctors to get a "discount." What ends up happening is her ass gets filled up with caulking from the local Home Depot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 02:07 PM
2

So called "ugly women" still get more attention than their "ugly male" counterparts. Here's an experiment. Go find a picture of a short, obese, disabled, conventionally unattractive woman. Post on Tinder or OKC and wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 02:05 PM
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I'll break it down for this "woman" "Going on a break" is code words for "having your cake and eating it too." One could argue you're technically not single but you want to keep your options open and by saying you're on a break, it supposedly makes you sleep well at night. Here's the reason men get pissed at crap like this: You're going to withhold sexual activity until you have some form of commitment, not that this is necessarily a bad thing. But, then you turn around and have kinky/taboo sex …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/07/20 02:20 PM
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In the same way that employers want some other employer to validate an employee's value, many women evaluate a man's worth by whether he's desired by other women. In a perfect world this may be the case, because everyone would be transparent and treated fairly. But we all know this isn't a perfect world.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/07/20 02:40 PM
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Taste the meat, not the heat.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/07/20 05:03 PM
1

Some women, sure, especially if they start young enough, and count stuff like hand jobs....
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/07/20 07:28 PM
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I don't think you're following what I said. These women thought the easiest way to get men to stay with them was to give up the goods too early because they literally had nothing else to offer: They were uneducated, have low IQ, have low motivation or ambition, have no interesting personality or hobbies or whatever. So, sex was the only thing they could offer.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/07/20 06:45 PM
2

Sure it could be "easy" to simply get laid but don't most girls want a relationship, not just meaningless sex? I have seen women admit that they use sex to try to get/keep men because they wanted to be considered the "fun girlfriend." The didn't have anything else to offer, so they appealed to men's primal urges.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/07/20 11:28 AM
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Yes, and it was mostly guys that were too sexual in some why in the first message.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/07/20 02:36 PM
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What I have mentioned in other comments.... Most women will claim they get 100's of messages/likes from "mostly garbage" so it's like getting none at all, so at best it's mostly short term stuff. But what they don't understand that [below] average men get nothing. Or have to work really hard at it and would die for something even short term.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/07/20 12:10 PM
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I once was talking to a female acquaintance about this. Her response was that the 100s of like were mostly trash, so it was no different than a man who got no matches. I essentially told her that men who don't get any likes don't have the option of ignoring likes and would take the trash even for some short term affection, even if that wasn't optimal.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/07/20 11:59 AM
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I left her speechless of course.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/07/20 01:05 AM
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As I said, she said you'll cheat with another man. I told her whats stopping me from cheating with a woman anyways?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/06/20 02:01 AM
2

To answer your question... Men do have standards, don't they? You have standards and you're a man, yes? As for who potentially says you can't, who are they? Are they normal, sane people with rational thinking? Or are they the loud drama queens who are very disliked? No one likes Karens right now, so don't listen to them. It's completely normal for a person to have preferences they want in a partner. And if you say ALL women ONLY want the wealthy, tall, hunks...this is simply not true. People hav…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/06/20 12:24 PM
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What about the men who leave their loyal wives for younger women, which is usually called a "midlife crisis." I'd argue that these men are douche bags and not the ones you would generally find on this sub, hopefully.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/06/20 12:17 PM
2

The only problem with that is this: in my experience, wokeness is even less than skin deep and thrown out at the first sign of requiring any effort or sacrifice. Attractive heterosexual women may loudly "you go gurl!" that model all day, but they don't want to be them. One has to go no farther than many women say they would not date a bisexual male. The reason given is that they like men, too and will cheat, my wife even answered this way. I asked her, how's that different than a straight man ch…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/06/20 12:09 PM
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Because men are more tolerant of looks in general. A woman can be an ugly overweight midget with poor hygiene and still get men drooling all over her.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/06/20 06:23 PM
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Wrong. A lot of people want to go on a date, doesn't mean that they are entitled to one. She's almost 40, and couldn't get wifed up and have a baby the normal way. That's even with a decent body (at least at one point). This points to her being an insufferable bitch.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/06/20 06:13 PM
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So why would they choose the less fertile option with more accumulated wear and tear? It's not just the fertility issues. I'd argue that there's baggage people accumulate as they get older. For example, how many women over 30 have already been divorced and/or have kids? Edit: A lot of men have had bad luck dating women with kids because the kids usually come first. So, if you have a choice, which one would you pick? I'm also guessing if the shoe was on the other foot she wouldn't date single dad…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/06/20 11:21 AM
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aka those dating much younger women... Even if they aren't dating much younger women, it begs the question, what does this woman offer a man? Men who are relatively good looking and are financially well off basically have the pick of the litter.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/06/20 11:12 AM
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Her response, of course, was to say "Well I know plenty of dominant guys that share their girls!". "Oh yeah? So why aren't you with them, then?" "Well, I don't want to end up in a situation where he's too busy with another girl and doesn't have time for me, and none of them would be willing to put me first before the other girls". One thing I noticed about a fair number of people in the "poly lifestyle" is they don't go pedal to the metal with it. For example, if they have a so called primary, t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/06/20 10:18 AM
1

casual sex and non-monogamy I'm going to venture a guess if you were to ask this woman if she was into casual/open relationships/non-monogamy/polyamory she would be offended, say of course not and so on. Yet, her actions say otherwise.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/06/20 09:53 AM
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This is the problem that I see: She gave up the goods too early (Ironically, this is one place FDS is right, a broken clock is right twice a day). Why buy the cow when you get the milk for free?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/06/20 04:36 PM
1

There's an element of fakeness/insecurity behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 03:03 PM
5

When he was pushing 30, he was dating a 19 year old. He couldn't understand why we were uncomfortable with her and didn't want her around. Sure, our friend went back to college F/T, but still, it's kinda creepy. At one point, I asked him, can't you find someone older/a little more mature?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 03:24 PM
1

I wouldn't agree to anything FDS related. There are some nuggets of truth there, but you know what they say, even a broken clock is right twice a day...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 03:03 PM
1

Retail Therapy
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/06/20 06:59 PM
7

TL;DR - you were her emotional tampon.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/06/20 03:10 PM
13

Why would any sane person spend more than 5 minutes in her presence? I think it's been discussed on these subs since time immemorial: men will defy logic mess around with anyone that has a couple of holes.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/06/20 12:41 PM
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Women only marry for money. And since they outnumber men in college, and took all mens jobs with quota hiring, they can't find enough rich guys, which the article suggests. These women would likely consider them Feminists who are strong and independent so they "don't need no man." Fine, take all the jobs and degrees to make as much money as your little heart desires. But the irony of breaking the glass ceiling is that they still want to abide by so called traditional roles where the men makes mo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/06/20 02:31 PM
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Not to get too political, but I vaguely remember surveys back when Clinton and GWB president, that people thought that race relations were getting better. Once Obama came in, things took a turn for the worse.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/06/20 12:50 PM
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The problem is that these guys are going to be WAY below her standards, and really everybody else's, I would argue that she does not know how to rank her standards because with many people, it's "all or nothing." There are plenty of men out there that she could have made it work with, if she was willing.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/06/20 12:37 PM
1

Consistency is the tool of the patriarchy!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/06/20 07:07 PM
4

Pffft, online for quick sex. But, I think the point here is, women have that option. Men don't.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/05/20 08:02 PM
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But on to the confusing part: You would rip the piss out the statement that shows that I am taking responsibility for choosing a bad mate? Yet in your post, you are ripping the shit out of women for NOT taking responsibility. You seem to talk out of both sides of your mouth, my friend. Almost very woman claims, your words not mine: he cheated, lied constantly, destroyed our reputations, destroyed our credit, and left me with nothing. I didn't do any of those things to him That it's basically bec…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/05/20 07:39 PM
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I disagree. I dare you to try an experiment. Go find a picture of an unattractive woman. Post on Tinder or any other OLD site without much of a written profile. I guarantee that you'll be talking to a dozen men in the first day.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/05/20 11:19 AM
3

Damn, took the words outta my mouth. Isn't a good thing that society has progressed? First World Problems?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/05/20 01:54 PM
2

And after the fact.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/05/20 05:28 PM
2

There, Their, They're my dear
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/05/20 05:10 PM
10

If everyone smells like shit.... maybe check the bottom of your shoes....
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/05/20 11:44 AM
2

He doesn't want to date a single mom, at all. It's a deal-breaker, not a preference. He may be totally ready to be a father as soon as he marries the right woman, but will never be ready to be mom's boyfriend. I recall reading some advice about relationships and parenting. It basically said that the priority of others should be: God/Higher Power (if you believe in that sort of thing) Your spouse Children Children were last because they need some sort of stability and if the parents were committe…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/05/20 04:36 PM
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"no single moms" I tried an experiment with something similar. It's funny as hell watching what I got called. One lady was like "Looks like I matched with a middle schooler." Someone else said "what if a smart and brave woman decided to leave an abuser?" My response was: Brave, yes, but she's not smart because she decided to have kids with an abuser. Usually the red flags are there. Of course I got the widow thing. People are unable to read between the lines.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/05/20 04:32 PM
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Pretty Hard Dick?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/05/20 04:15 PM
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