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Ignoring all ideology for a moment here, it does seem that women do face a certain amount of groping, cat calling and other unwanted attention as they go about their business. I think that pushing the responsibility for this onto men as a whole is wrong, since most of us (imho) do not do this, support or condone it in any way. The way that some feminists talk about this problem is sometimes unhelpfully antagonistic towards all males - but that doesn't mean that the problem itself doesn't exist, …
/r/MensRights14/09/13 07:01 PM
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To be fair, the media portrayal of women is still pretty awful, and games are no exception.
/r/MensRights14/09/13 06:49 PM
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Do you think your parents would be supportive if you told them how you feel? If you think so then I'd recommend going to them first. Failing that, you could try a well thought out letter to the school governors (anonymously), or to the headteacher. Obviously there are other options that would lead to more publicity, but even though this is a clearly highly inappropriate policy, I do get the feeling that nobody will give a damn. If it were the other way around I think it would be recognised for w…
/r/MensRights04/09/13 08:12 PM
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I think that's a common source of frustration here. I think many of us recognise that there are many instances where women face problems that men generally don't - it's just so irritating when men's concerns are so often casually dismissed. I honestly wish more feminists would post here, there are a few crazies on both sides, but most of us in the middle just want to help solve the problems that each of us face, and to understand one another's perspectives.
/r/MensRights30/08/13 08:51 PM
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I think that's being a little bit unfair to the point. It isn't about offence, it's about a hostile atmosphere. Even if this never turns into something more, living in that kind of atmosphere can't be pleasant, and it's a totally valid point to raise.
/r/MensRights30/08/13 08:47 PM
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When I've tried to open a constructive dialogue with some of the feminist sub's, one thing I was told in not so many words was 'of a comment isn't censored the mods endorse it'. When I pointed out that when posts were made that were misogynistic were called out, with all the top voted posts were picking it apart, only the upvotes counted, apparently. I'm still convinced that dialogue is desirable and necessary, it's just infuriating when some people are so disingenuous.
/r/MensRights15/08/13 10:37 AM
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Just wanted to say, I'm really disappointed that you are getting downvotes for saying this. Not entirely surprised, but disappointed.
/r/MensRights07/08/13 03:30 PM
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If a man tried saying 'women should try saying yes more often' then people would vilify him for it. It's just as inappropriate for a woman to say the reverse.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 10:41 AM
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I look at it this way. Should a mother be legally permitted to put her child up for adoption? Ans - Yes. So why not fathers?
/r/MensRights28/06/13 12:30 PM
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I think that FGM arguably can by more brutal than MGM, but it's not the point. Babies of both genders have a right to bodily autonomy and should be protected against these practices.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 02:42 PM
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This seems like a good idea, it's always best for charities to be as inclusive as possible. The RVS do good work, I hope this helps them attract more members.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 09:56 AM
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What's a shame is that I actually think this is a reasonable policy - but why are men and women treated so very differently by the justice system?
/r/MensRights30/04/13 12:11 PM
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|we let them take our rights away with barely a whimper We never had a right to remain silent to begin with.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 09:23 AM
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tbh I think this is all that most people who post here would like to see - an acknowledgement that men have problems too that we need to tackle, at the same time as solving the problems that women face.
/r/MensRights11/04/13 07:08 PM
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"She's really glad I like computers and programming because she says as a business person she feels like she's held hostage by developers." WTF? That's pretty overtly sexist against men. No, it's a claim that developers have used their leverage over her, which is what businesses do. So long as she isn't being singled out because of her gender then this is totally fine.
/r/MensRights25/03/13 10:34 AM
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Since when did all males bear a collective responsibility for the actions of a small minority of us? I deride all domestic violence and I refuse to be painted as guilty for condoning it because of my gender. If Chris Brown beats up someone then he should be behind bars, and the same for anyone else that is guilty of domestic violence. Period.
/r/MensRights11/02/13 03:21 PM
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I think it's worth pointing out that most people who label themselves as feminist believe in equality and don't blame all men. Those that do are unlikely to be swayed by these sentiments, even if they are spot on.
/r/MensRights31/01/13 10:07 AM
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It's interesting how the MPs in the committee make the argument that women who are mothers should have this taken into account when they are sentenced, but totally ignore the same for men who are fathers. imho nobody's parental status should be taken into account when they are sentenced.
/r/MensRights29/01/13 11:17 AM
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Didn't Rebecca Watson actually receive death threats? I'm still pretty confused by the whole 'elevator gate' and the fallout from it.
/r/MensRights25/01/13 11:18 AM
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I would say that with regard to standards of physical health, there has to be a minimum level that is acceptable to the military, eg. you have to run a mile in x time, lift x weight, be x height. If you can attain this minimum acceptable standard then you can be accepted in the military, end of. Anything less is asking the military to accept below par candidates.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 10:41 AM
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This just goes to show how the labels have become almost meaningless, people have their own definitions for the terms left and right, liberal and conservative. As for Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini empowering workers, I have to disagree. What these men have in common is that they were megalomaniacs who sat atop authoritarian police-states, how is this empowering to workers?
/r/MensRights13/12/12 04:50 PM
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People have different definitions of the word 'liberal' and 'conservative' to the extent that I think the labels are essentially meaningless.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 04:46 PM
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Not sure if troll or serious..... In any case, this just illustrates the problems with political labels, they mean different things to different people. Liberal in the classic liberal sense is closer to what libertarianism is considered to be now. Nazi economic policies leaned towards more government involvement, but it's not their economic policies that most people object to, it's the genocidal, authoritarian, racist police state that started wars of aggression that people almost universally ob…
/r/MensRights13/12/12 04:45 PM
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Wrt the 'genocide against women' thing, it's a known problem in some parts of the world that female babies are less valued than male, and can be left to die or aborted before birth.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 11:20 AM
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While depression is a big problem that especially affects men, I'm not sure that it's a gender rights issue. Making everyone more open about mental health issues and society at large learning to be more supportive of anyone with depression is the most important thing, it gets to the root of the problem and it helps dispel the 'man up' mentality.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 01:21 PM
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Agreed that women don't have it all better off now, but I think OP specifically said in the chart that he thought that 'no votes for women' lobby were nuts.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 04:43 PM
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I feel broadly the same way, but some of feminisms philosophical underpinnings still make me feel deeply uncomfortable. The main one is Patriarchy being used as a one size fits all reason for everything that's bad in the world, and all to often patriarchy seems to just mean 'males'. That and declaring that the problems that men face are caused by Patriarchy, essentially saying 'we know this is terrible for you, but it's your fault'. I want to help women achieve equality where they don't already …
/r/MensRights03/12/12 04:22 PM
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One I heard: 'You want my seat AND the vote?' And for the sake of clarity - I think of women as my equals who are fully entitled to vote, but they can't expect to special treatment based on gender.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 04:35 PM
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Agreed, but you are missing the point - he had no due process whatsoever. Accusation is enough to bring punishment. I want to see ALL rapists behind bars, but we have to follow the legal procedures to determine their guilt first. The current system isn't perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than guilt by accusation.
/r/MensRights29/11/12 03:18 PM
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It's something I remember reading a few years ago, but I honestly can't remember where. It might be an idea to ask r/historians or r/anthropology to get a more accurate perspective on gender roles throughout history.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 09:52 AM
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You should go check it on r/historians, but I'm pretty certain that the stereotypical male/female work roles (ie Men go out to work, women stay at home) are a very recent invention, from the 19th Century. Before the agricultural revolution everyone was needed to work in the fields, regardless of gender. Other jobs were more gender divided, eg men might be a smith or a carpenter and women did other things like brewing. Even thinking about the gender roles that became the norm, nobody had it easy,…
/r/MensRights19/11/12 04:44 PM
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Sexist? Bigoted?
/r/MensRights29/10/12 12:53 PM
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Listening to it now. Some of the points the feminist speaker makes that I think are interesting: -She doesn't defend the pay gap, she just trusts statisticians who compiled the figures that show it. -She says that the violence women face domestically is different from that men face, and claims that when women are violent it is because they have faced abuse. (So, victim blaming and excusing women). -Says that women shouldn't be told not to get into unregistered taxis in case they are raped as she…
/r/MensRights26/10/12 08:56 AM
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Listening to it now. Some of the points the feminist speaker makes that I think are interesting: She doesn't defend the pay gap, she just trusts statisticians who compiled the figures that show it. She says that the violence women face domestically is different from that men face, and claims that when women are violent it is because they have faced abuse. (So, victim blaming and excusing women). Says that women shouldn't be told not to get into unregistered taxis in case they are raped as she th…
/r/MensRights25/10/12 03:05 PM
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London School of Economics, a highly regarded university.
/r/MensRights25/10/12 02:32 PM
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I think it's more about the comments that came afterwards, the ones that threatened violence and sexual assault.
/r/MensRights25/10/12 12:59 PM
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I've subbed. I think it's the moderates like us who realise that there are problems on both sides who have to speak up wherever we see anyone being discriminated against.
/r/MensRights01/10/12 06:29 PM
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Thanks I agree with your points, I just think that it's up to us to demonstrate this to people. Until it can be shown that in many cases the pay gap is a statistical construct people will still go on about it.
/r/MensRights24/09/12 07:07 PM
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Interestingly this isn't how it was always seen. Before the 19th Century it men were seen as being vulnerable to women's seductive ways, and it was women who were more sexually driven.
/r/MensRights24/09/12 02:59 PM
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There is a lot of hyperbole out there, I think it's mainly born from the frustration of not being listened to in the first place. That and being told that all the problem, including the ones that disadvantage men, are caused by 'patriarchy' - it's the very definition of blaming the victim. Either way, turning it into an us/them battle and arguing over who has it worse isn't going to help anyone - I think that all people have a lot of hard work ahead of us to try and create a society that is equa…
/r/MensRights28/08/12 02:24 PM
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I'm here because there are problems that men face, and when they are mentioned they are usually shouted down or ignored.
/r/MensRights28/08/12 02:14 PM
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Upvote Interested to know in what sense you consider yourself a feminist? I want to see women put on an equal footing to men and vice-versa, which is why I DON'T use the term feminist - it assumes we only have to work on women's rights issues. Where women are facing difficulties I want to work on those, I also want the wider public to recognice men's issues and help us work on those, and I'm astounded by the hostility and resistance to that.
/r/MensRights28/08/12 01:37 PM
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Misread this, thought you said 'stereotyped as being British or stupid', had a wtf moment.
/r/MensRights28/08/12 01:26 PM
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She has a point, even if many of the things she said aren't quite right, or have a male equivalent. Example, people generally accept when a woman is being emotional, while berating men who show the same emotions. They also expect men to do the physical jobs in the workplace, to step in if there is a threat of violence, etc. I think the best way to go through it is to address her points fairly, listen to the difficulties she faces (even if they are ones only of perception), explain where/if she i…
/r/MensRights28/08/12 01:25 PM
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It's not even a male issue, it's just someone getting unwanted attention, both men and women experience this.
/r/MensRights24/08/12 09:35 AM
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Frankly I don't think that's the tack to take here, MRAs aren't going to make headway by asking for anything in a way that seems to take anything away from Women. Calling for it from a point of view of promoting every man's human rights to reproductive autonomy is the best approach imho.
/r/MensRights02/08/12 05:12 PM
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It could apply to random hook-ups, it could also apply couples where the female partner wants to have a child, the male doesn't, and the female lies about her contraceptive plans. I think that anyone who lies about their contraceptive intentions, be it a man lying about using a condom or a woman lying about being on the pill, are effectively committing sexual assault on their partner. In any case, I think OP is saying that whereas women can make just about all of the decisions when it comes to w…
/r/MensRights02/08/12 02:39 PM
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I stated playing the Arma 2 campaign last night. First mission involves infiltrating a village, at one point you find a woman laying in the middle of a barn crying, and a bunch of guys tied up in the corner next to some corpses. One of the mission objectives is to then rescue the woman because she's being abused. Clearly the guys in the corner, a couple of whom have already been murdered, don't matter. The disposable male attitude is surprisingly pervasive.
/r/MensRights20/07/12 11:11 AM
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I agree with you here - the reason that I posted this to men's rights is because of the tone of the article, and some of the criticisms of the boxes on the grounds that men might access them. If it's ok for a mother to use the box, why not a father? Why consider men evil for doing something we accept women should be able to do?
/r/MensRights27/06/12 10:49 AM
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What I want to know is, if a woman leaves a baby in the box, isn't that a violation of the fathers rights? Nobody seems to give a damn about his rights to raise his child. I'm not against these boxes, I think it's important that desperate parents have a final resort like this, somewhere that the baby can be safe and cared for immediately. I just don't like the tone of the article.
/r/MensRights26/06/12 10:55 AM
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There were and are gender rights issues that face women, and if there is a movement to get women the equal rights they deserve then that's fantastic, and I think that this is what most people think of as 'feminism'. Some people who want preferential treatment for women, or simply hate men, like to hide behind this word so they can deflect criticism. I think it's a mistake for the MRM to say we are against feminism, as in many people's minds this is equal to being a misogynist. What we need to sa…
/r/MensRights15/06/12 09:34 AM
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I seem to remember that a British judge ruled on a case like this, stating that drunken consent is still consent.
/r/MensRights20/05/12 07:56 PM
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My point was really that it would highlight the ridiculousness of the rule against skirts. If a kilt is ok, then why not a skirt?
/r/MensRights19/05/12 07:40 PM
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Solution: Wear a kilt.
/r/MensRights19/05/12 09:43 AM
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Agreed. Every time I have pointed this out to feminists they always tell me that this is all the fault of the patriarchy. Do they think that men would create a system that purposefully puts them at a disadvantage in so many instances?
/r/MensRights15/05/12 05:57 PM
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This is what I've been saying ever since I became aware of the MRM, props to you.
/r/MensRights02/05/12 01:58 PM
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At the risk of being downvoted, 'Feminists are women who believe they are superior to men and that men should be punished for simply being male' is a bit of a strawman too. I think that a lot of people who identify as feminists are actually more egalitarian than we might give them credit for, and if they really just thought about it would agree with r/mensrights on most issues. Labelling them all as one thing or another doesn't help our cause, just like it wouldn't help race equality problems by…
/r/MensRights29/04/12 04:22 PM
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I can go one better, I got an ban just for commenting on an /r/mensrights thread. I'd never even heard of SRS at that point.
/r/MensRights29/04/12 04:17 PM
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I don't think she actually stabbed him, the article says he has wounded arms. These would be consistent with him using his arms to shield himself from an attack, or if he got slashed while he was trying to disarm her as is claimed.
/r/MensRights20/04/12 10:50 AM
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Misleading title, nowhere in the article does it say she intended to kill him. I would disagree with the judgement though, unless the injured man was threatening his wife in some way there is no justification for this domestic violence.
/r/MensRights19/04/12 01:10 PM
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Do you mind expanding on what you define as 'leftist'? Economically I'm somewhere in between keynesian and austrian economics, it seems to me that both philosophies have their merits and to disregard either entirely is unhelpful.
/r/MensRights19/04/12 09:21 AM
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Ok, so it looks like by even commenting in this thread, I've been banned from /r/shitredditsays. I'm guessing there is a running battle between these subreddits?
/r/MensRights19/04/12 08:47 AM
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"17-year-old girl. A minor." I agree with what you've said otherwise, but not this part. Just because she is 17 years old and legally a 'minor', that doesn't mean she bears no responsibility, and nor does it mean that once a person hits 18 they are magically endowed with adulthood and adult responsibilities. There is a grey area between child and adult where we should hold people responsible for their actions, though perhaps not as much as we would an adult.
/r/MensRights18/04/12 09:51 PM
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Thanks for the info. Even if it were the case though I don't see the justification of taking the choice away from the child concerned.
/r/MensRights16/04/12 08:51 PM
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The argument from popularity is 'well it's popular so it must be correct'. In some places this means FGM, in some places it means you have to follow the state religion, and in some places it could mean slavery. Just because these things might be popular it wouldn't mean they would be acceptable if we want to build a free society. And I agree, the choice shouldn't be eliminated. But nor should it be FORCED upon the individual. Should a parent be allowed to tatoo their baby? It's still cosmetic.
/r/MensRights16/04/12 06:02 PM
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But what about the freedom of the CHILD? Children are not chattel, to do with as you wish. If a parent wanted to give their baby girl miniature breast implants, would you be ok with that? If grown men want to be circumcised, that's fine. If it is necessary then that's ok too, but for parents to unilaterally decide that part of their child's anatomy needs to be cut off just because they prefer how it looks?
/r/MensRights16/04/12 05:56 PM
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You are making the argument from popularity and tradition, both of which are logical fallacies. Even if we grant you that it enhances hygiene in later life ( I don't know what the medical consensus is on this), it is FACT that baby boys can die, or have massive infections that require penile amputation because of botched circumcisions. It is an entirely unnecessary cosmetic procedure.
/r/MensRights16/04/12 05:53 PM
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That's fine for YOU, but why the hell should parents be able to force non-necessary amputation on someone who cannot give their consent? Also, I'm interested to see why you support circumcision, what benefits does it bring? Is it just for cosmetic reasons? If so, what other cosmetic surgery do you think would be acceptable for newborns?
/r/MensRights16/04/12 05:48 PM
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So, could he use some of the eggs to impregnate a surrogate and demand child support from the biological mother?
/r/MensRights13/04/12 03:25 PM
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I don't think this belongs in this subreddit per sey. Yes, there are institutionalized biases against men in the courts, men get longer sentences than women for a given crime, but unless this is actually shown to be a case where discrimination has occurred then it's just an example of a crappy justice system rather than a discriminatory one.
/r/MensRights13/04/12 03:19 PM
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