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But I've met attractive men who drop down from a 10/10 to a 2/10 after they open their mouths. I assume you're being hyperbolic because a legitimate 10/10 man will be treated practically like royalty, even if they were exceptionally awkward many women would find it endearing and be more than happy to put up with it for a chance to hook up with him. An above average but nothing special man on the other hand, yeah I agree a lack of social skills could kill his chances completely. But an ugly guy w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 09:36 AM
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There are no rules if you are hot There are a thousand rules if you're ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 09:23 AM
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???? Please elaborate
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 08:49 AM
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A youtuber called Connor Murphy has some of the best evidence of this on the internet, he's a tall, handsome, ripped guy who has approached probably hundreds of women over the years and he gets very good results even doing incredibly cringey shit like ripping his shirt off as a prank, trying to get a girls number without speaking a word etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 08:36 AM
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Many women won’t entertain advances done through cold approaching, regardless of the man’s level of attractiveness. Maybe a small number but the majority would if the guy was incredibly handsome.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 07:36 AM
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Many women are going to be non-receptive to a cold approach regardless of how attractive the man is. This is true for the overwhelming majority of men, but if a guy is legitimately top teir in the looks department then most women will be atleast somewhat receptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 07:32 AM
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Andrew Tate isn't handsome though and his ideology goes completely against the blackpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 06:15 AM
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Didn't read lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 06:03 AM
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There isn’t anything respectful about a man who feels that way about women who don’t want to hold still for his low effort proposition. A woman can simply say she's not interested and the guy should just respectfully accept the rejection and move on with his life. Freaking out and trying to destroy the social reputation of a man for simply asking you out is not justified in the slightest. Fortunately women who think like you are in a tiny minority in my personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 05:49 AM
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It's not how these men feel about women in general, it's how they feel about crazy women who will flip out over a man respectfully approaching them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 05:27 AM
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Another way to put it is don't bother approaching if she's not interested. It's a fairly simple rule to follow. Another way to put it is have the ability to read minds Tbf Some women do give IOIs and choosing signals to men they want to approach, but definitely not always and the indicators they give are very often ambiguous as fuck so you can't rely on them to know whether you should approach or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:50 AM
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I genuinely haven't seen it before either irl or online. Can you provide any examples ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:54 AM
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Did you miss the part where I said 'nor have I heard about it in general'
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 10:01 PM
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Idk anyone irl who has ever done something like that, nor have I heard about it in general, there is no way it's a common occurrence
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 09:28 PM
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Source: trust me bro
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 07:54 PM
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Blast testosterone
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 05:15 AM
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It's a revenge fantasy to hope that women will never find the men they want. I'm in a LTR and before that had no problem getting frequent ONS, the only times in my life I've struggled with women was when I've been a fatass. It's not a revenge fantasy it's just basic common sense that low value women aren't going to be able to realistically bag a high value man. its not beyond the realm of possibility for a single mom in her 30s to find a successful guy I never said a single mum couldn't find a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 04:49 AM
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It's a perfectly reasonable thing to ask somebody
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 04:14 AM
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Not really. Delusion
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 03:48 AM
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however long that takes The point is its never going to happen, it would be like only having a high school diploma and trying to get a job as a lawyer for a top teir law firm- you're never going to get hired because the firm will have hundreds of other candidates to choose from with 1000x the qualifications so it would go completely against logic and reason to chose you over the others. This bluepill idea that everybody has equal dating value and it's only a matter of personal preference is so i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 01:54 AM
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You seem to be really bad with numbers Ironic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 08:57 PM
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No notable group of people are making fun of women who want to be respected in a relationship, they're making fun of women who are low value but proclaim to 'know their worth' (aka see themselves as high value) and therefore refuse to date any man who isn't tall, handsome, rich, successful etc. Any man who isn't supposedly 'on their level'. It's the delusion that's being made fun of. The same way as if some obese unemployed neckbeard put up online that he knows his worth and refuses to date any …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 08:36 PM
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a woman who has been traumatized by rape gets upset about it. how many men pop out of the woodwork to tell her that actually its just a joke so she's a cunt for not laughing. Wtf this is not something 99.9% of men would ever do
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 07:38 PM
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By blasting testosterone unironically
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 05:59 PM
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Yeah true thats fair, my apologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 05:26 PM
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True that's fair, although in that case I would argue that the amount of women who actually are true progressives is a minute fraction of those who simply claim to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:35 PM
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No true Scotsman
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:12 PM
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Because wokeism is a joke ideology
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:06 PM
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If women were obsessed with height, then short men would have been bred out centuries ago Not true, a tall man can still have short kids if the mother is short And majority of these stars are no where near 6ft Literally all of those you listed except for Tom Cruise are 6ft or taller. Brad Pitt might be 5'11 actually but you wouldn't be able to tell the difference unless you whipped out a tape measure. The biggest mistake you all consistently make, is thinking women are like men and as such are c…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 03:58 PM
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Not entirely, its also for general quality of life, respect from other men, financial freedom, but dating is certainly a big aspect. Only thing I will say is that saying it is to 'date women' is not the right way to phrase it, it's to improve the quality and quantity of one's dating options. There are very few people who are so truly undesirable that they have to go through vast extents of self improvement just to date anybody whatsoever, it's just about getting to a level where you're able to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 02:49 PM
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Women like low body fat, athletic body types not bodybuilders, gymcels can seethe all they want but it's the truth. If by bodybuilders you mean a dude who looks like he's going to step foot on the Olympia stage then sure, but women do prefer a guy who's reasonably jacked over just skinny and lean. Source: I get noticably more female attention on cycle vs off.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 02:37 PM
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Young Rock was still on steroids, just less potent steroids and lower doses.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 02:32 PM
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First season he was pretty ideal as a “masculine Alpha male” - tall, muscular but not “musclebound”. He looked like he had some speed and athleticism as well as raw power. Never seen the show but as a dude who has been into the gym scene for years, I can virtually guarantee to you that this dude is on steroids. Women are clueless when it comes to muscularity I swear.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 02:29 PM
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Self improvement. Basically improving appearance, improving social skills/charisma, making money etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 02:15 PM
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That is just fundamentally not true
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 02:05 PM
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Because feminists constantly claim that feminism is about achieving equality across the board and that it will benefit men too. Added to which feminists are very much apposed to MRAs, or basically any male empowerment space.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:45 AM
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Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:06 PM
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What
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:35 PM
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what if you think most men aren't good people Lol this is just sexism in its purest form
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:53 AM
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Perfect explanation, I don't see anybody coming up with a legitimate argument against this
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 08:03 PM
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but there hasn’t been a match so far. This is why redpillers say not to listen to women for dating advice lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 05:22 PM
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There are studies which show that women don’t even find the same faces attractive. So the bs about women swiping on the same men for attractiveness. I can’t remember the exact number but out of 100 faces, I think there was an overlap of 5. So they find different things attractive. Yeah this is major bs, sure among good looking guys there is variation among who women think is the best looking, but the fact that bluepillers try and act like a dude like this and a dude like this are equally attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 03:54 PM
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I think a better way to phrase it is although women don't overtly prefer assholes, they would 100% choose an assertive guy with a spine who happens to be an asshole over a weak pushover who happens to be a nice dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 03:35 PM
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Evidently
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 03:19 PM
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Nope, manipulative sure but not predatory
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 03:04 PM
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All I can go off is anecdotes but yeah I've been screamed at by a fat woman for rejecting her at the bar (I wasn't even rude about it either), and slapped in the face by a different fat woman for the same reason (admittedly I will say I don't think that is a common occurrence and alcohol 100% played a role but that is no excuse). I've also been called a misogynist by a female friend for saying I wouldn't date an obese woman after she asked me if I would (again I wasn't even rude about it, I just…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:29 PM
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Yep I made a similar argument in another comment- if getting fat is inevitable due to genetics or pregnancy or whatever other bs card bluepillers like to pull, explain why the USA has an overweight or obese population of 70% and Japan has a rate of 3%.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 03:35 PM
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Lay off the crack dude, I literally said 0 of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 03:30 PM
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I don't think you're going to find a single redpiller who disagrees with this, the only people who talk about fat acceptance and fatphobia etc are those on the extreme bluepill side.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 02:05 PM
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Yeah but the difference is fat guys don't complain about fit women not wanting to date them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 01:46 PM
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Have unrealistically high expectations of what constitutes "fat" (ie expecting girls to look like porn stars) and then complaining about how you can't get a date. Depends entirely on what shape you're in. A dude built like Danny Devito is not in a position to be having high standards for a woman's body. But if you have a very good physique then there's nothing wrong with expecting a woman who is in decent shape as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 12:30 PM
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genetics Had I not been on this sub for a while I would've assumed this is just a troll post but you're really trying to pull that card lmao. Calories in calories out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 11:42 AM
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That still means even in your country the average person is hooking up several times in their life, and I would assume this is mostly occurring in high school/college years
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 10:11 AM
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I'm not basing this on movies lol, it's just my personal experience. I'm from Australia which tbf is supposedly the most promiscuous country in the world, but I just thought it was commonplace everywhere for teens and young adults to hook up with each other at parties or the club etc. In fact the only place I've heard otherwise is on this subreddit funilly enough. Edit: also if you look at that link about promiscuity by country, in practically every western country people have atleast 10 sexual …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 09:51 AM
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Have you ever been to a high school/college party before? Pretty much every single girl I know personally had a phase where they would hook up with people, it confuses me when people on this sub try and act like hookups aren't common because that is the exact opposite of my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 09:02 AM
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I do agree with you that it's common knowledge that looks matter, where I disagree is you saying bluepill just means the mainstream views on dating but I don't think that's entirely accurate- the way I've always seen it, bluepill is more like the kind of advice you would hear in a Disney film or from your grandparents etc. Feel good, politically correct platitudes like 'looks don't matter, it's the inside that counts' 'just be yourself, the right person will come around' etc. So when I say the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 04:01 PM
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Again, I didn't ask for random one off people who believe whacky shit. I asked for a post where the consensus blue pill view is that looks don't matter at all. None of those links provide anything close to that. Not even anything that leans in that direction. Earlier that day.... Yeah, links would help. I've seen people claim that looks aren't the most important thing to them, but I don't think I've ever seen a claim that looks don't matter at all. I certainly haven't seen "many bluepillers" mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 03:07 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/NEe8sPWiqw https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/03Oi9E9xKb https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/FQmdkKa0zF https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/qa0QCt8Wt9 https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/gZa8YN4Fjn https://imgur.com/a/0l9tQXl (This one was deleted but you can see in the quote in my reply that they said women would give any man a chance regardless of looks) Admittedly some of these aren't straight up saying looks don't m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 02:14 PM
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How many blue pillers here are saying that? I can link you several that I've seen if you're interested lol, part of me thinks that they're just trolling because I think it's idiotic to act like looks mean nothing at all but at the same time they do seem pretty legitimate in their views. I also haven’t seen a single person here say that going to the gum doesn’t matter at all. What I have seen blue-pilled women say is that facial attractiveness is more important to many of us than body type As a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 12:32 PM
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None of those things are main tenants of the redpill though. I could make a similar argument against feminism, or literally any ideology. You're always going to find extremists saying extreme shit that makes everyone else look bad. I followed the general advice of the redpill (which is to do everything in your power to look your absolute best through fitness, grooming, style, surgery etc, to have as much success and money as possible by studying hard to get a good job, starting up a business, ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 11:07 AM
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in fact i generally get turned off by guys most would consider chads. "I generally get turned off by very handsome, tall, fit, charismatic men' Something tells me these dudes don't want to date you so as a coping mechanism you claim it's actually you who isn't interested in them, not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 10:12 AM
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Arguably LL surgery is a form of self improvement, so it's more redpill than blackpill. Blackpill is all about genetic determinism.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 08:54 AM
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I think looks DO matter. But it's not a standard across the blanket universal thing. We all like what we like. A 10 to me is a 4 to someone else. A 4 to me can be a 8 to someone. Like it's not a constant thing. So my 10 can be someone's 4 and I will be like heart eyes over him and my friends are like what the actual fuck? Surely you can see that there is a looks hierarchy though and it's not completely arbitrary- a dude like Chris Pine would be considered better looking than a dude like Steve Bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 08:41 AM
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Work hard, play hard. Put in the hard work to maximise your appearance, financial situation, social skills and charisma and then reap the rewards at places like a festival, the club, a bar etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 08:22 AM
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Not too long ago I would've agreed with you because I do think that most of the redpill beliefs are just obvious common sense truths, but I've come across many bluepillers on this sub claiming that looks aren't in any way important, gym doesn't help, dating isn't a competition etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 08:19 AM
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have you ever noticed how like 90% of Red Pill ideology involves getting angry at women for not wanting to fuck you? No lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 08:16 AM
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Following tenants of the redpill helped me massively- that being said most of it's tenants came to me intuitively and I hadn't even heard the term redpill until I was already decently successful with women. It just seems like common sense to me that good looking, wealthy, successful, confident guys are going to have an easier time getting laid than bad looking, poor, unsuccessful, meek/awkward guys. Truly baffles me that people on here try to argue with that, or try and act like being nice is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 09:10 AM
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Is it really that hard to say you do it both for yourself and to be more attractive to men. It doesn't have to be one or the other. I train in the gym for myself because I love lifting weights but I still do it in part because it makes me more attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 08:41 AM
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Comment I saw recently that sums up my thoughts on the redpill. Following redpill advice isn't about getting women in a purely general sense, it's about getting a higher quality and quantity of women. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 08:29 AM
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I think you would be surprised, just because a guy doesn't bring it up to you unprompted (or even if you were to ask him about it) doesn't mean he doesn't believe any of this stuff, it's just about social awareness. I don't think most guys self identify as redpill or have even heard of the term, I just think a lot more guys align with atleast some of the redpill beliefs than you may realise.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 08:14 AM
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Just because most people are average doesn't mean the outliers who are very good looking don't have a big advantage and the outliers that are very unattractive don't have a big disadvantage. I agree with you that most people are good enough for dating, but if you want to be a slayer, which let's be real most guys would if they could, then you need to be above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 03:14 PM
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I don't think looks are everything, I just think if you're clearly physically unattractive then you're going to struggle in comparison to a good looking person. I'm genuinely surprised people even argue with this tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 03:00 PM
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Find me a single person who has lost 100+ pounds who agrees with you that looks don't matter. Only reason I believe this shit is because I experienced the massive change in the way I got treated first hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 02:16 PM
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I just told you that if you don't believe me then go to a bar with a short, fat, bald dude and simply observe the success he gets, and now contrast this by going out with a good looking guy and see how much more successful he is (when I say good looking I do mean legitimately hot). Also dating apps are by far the most popular place for couples to meet nowadays, and that's from 2017 so since covid I can imagine the percentage now would be even higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 12:48 PM
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It 100% reflects real life but if that doesn't convince you then fair enough, go to the bar with a short, fat, bald guy and simply observe him approaching girls and see how much success he gets. Inb4 some variation of 'girls just don't like one night stands' If you believe that no notable number of woman are into ONS then you need to go to the bar with a legitimately good looking guy and watch what happens. He won't even need to approach, he will have women coming up to him and flirting constant…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 12:32 PM
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Nice cock!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:50 AM
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So god damn delusional lmao. Do a tinder experiment with a short, fat, bald guy and see how many matches he gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:33 AM
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Betabux
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:24 AM
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looks stupidity that they bleat about is nonsense. Looks 100% matter and you're delusional if you think otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 09:38 AM
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This is basically what everything debated on this sub boils down to
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 08:03 AM
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Game is legit, but looks come first. Once you reach a certain threshold of looks (which is pretty high tbf), getting good game makes a much bigger difference than improving looks. A good looking guy with game would wipe the floor with a good looking dude who has bad social skills. PUAs are just trying to put the cart before the horse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 07:48 AM
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Yeah as a fellow Australian I have a similar experience to you, maybe its just an American problem. That being said rules 1 and 2 are still vital here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 07:40 AM
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Women are usually better conversationalists on average than men. Yeah I don't think I'd go that far haha
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 07:26 AM
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Word
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 09:43 AM
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Basically every bar I go to, I live in Australia
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 07:50 AM
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I remember when you went to a bar everyone was talking and meeting new people. When I go to bars now I never see people trying to talk to each other. I hear this kind of thing pretty often on this sub and it doesn't reflect my experience whatsoever, I've never been to a bar where everybody is just sitting by themselves not talking to anybody, it's usually a very social environment with strangers conversing with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 06:24 AM
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Redpill is funamentaly just the belief that looks/money/status/charisma are the main factors that attract women, which imo is common sense but it seems there are plenty of people on this sub and on reddit in general who disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 03:44 AM
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Lol everyone's allowed their preferences but why though, if it's a tasteless shirtless mirror selfie I can understand but if it's just a picture of him at the beach for example I don't really see the issue. I do find it a little cringey when dudes make the gym their entire personality, especially when these dudes don't even look that impressive, but if you've worked hard for a great physique you may as well show it off in one way or another and like I said it helps a tonne with getting matches- …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 03:31 AM
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Women always say that they hate shirtless pics but whenever I add one to my profile it literally more than doubles my matches and I've heard many dudes share similar results. For context I am a gym bro and do have a very solid physique, I can't imagine having a shirtless pic with an average or below body is going to have a positive outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 02:38 AM
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So if a person gets drunk and has sex then they weren't in control of their actions and got raped but if somebody drinks a bottle of vodka and gets behind the wheel and runs down a pedestrian they get life in prison because they're responsible for their actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 03:59 AM
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physical attributes aren't as central and critical to women as they are for men They are just as critical if not more, the only difference is that men still need to fulfill several other criteria as well, whereas a woman with good looks and nothing else going for her will do fine
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 01:52 AM
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There may be an inkling of truth to that but thats mostly a coping mechanism imo, men just don't value women's success as much as women value it in men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 08:02 AM
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Can't agree with you there, as a dude who went bar/club hopping practically every single weekend of my college years, I have never, not even once, seen a clearly unattractive dude take home a girl he met out. Average dudes sure but not often, attractive dudes defintely and very attractive dudes absolutely and often more than one girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 08:36 AM
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Point I'm making is that attractive men are just as capable of violence as unattractive men (if not more as attractive dudes tend to be taller and better built) yet women have no problem having ONS sex with these guys, so that implies that fear of violence isn't the main factor in women wanting to hook up less, it's just that most men just aren't attractive enough for women to want to hook up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 08:22 AM
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Speak for yourself, the majority of women in my circle either had or are still in a 'hoe phase'
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 07:49 AM
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Speaking purely anecdotally here but the majority of women in my circles have 0 problem going home with a stranger to have sex, he just has to meet a much higher looks threshold than a woman would for a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 07:41 AM
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Unattractive women can’t get laid as easily as attractive ones Sure but that's not saying much at all, attractive women can get laid without lifting a finger lol. Tinder experiments show that even very unattractive women still get plenty of matches with dudes enthusiastically messaging them first. The quality of these men probably isn't great and it's unlikely they're looking for anything long term but that's irrelevant to whether unattractive women can get sex easily or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 05:46 AM
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Because if you have any desire to get sex then you have to play the game unfortunately. And if you have no desire for sex then it shouldn't matter to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 05:05 AM
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Also, this isn’t true for good looking men. They seem to have no problem getting laid. And likewise, unattractive women have a hard time getting sex. Agree to the first statement, strong disagree to the second
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 04:58 AM
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When you ask people even after a single year "why are you with current partner" almost always the first 5 reasons are much more personality/values based than just purely looks based. Means very little, it's far more socially acceptable to talk about personality and values than it is to talk about looks when it comes to what you love about your partner due to it being considered shallow. I'm not claiming personality doesn't matter because of course it does but for getting girls I think looks trum…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 09:25 PM
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There are plenty of signs women give to men to approach but they're often ambiguous as fuck so in practise you're generally correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 08:23 PM
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De Vito would not get rejected as often as you think. ???????? I'm pretty damn sure he would lmao, he's nearly 80 years old, very ugly, obese and legally a dwarf. You seriously think if he (the commoner version) pulled up at the club he would be able to take home an attractive woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 08:01 PM
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True story, imo money is the least important of looks/money/status/charisma in terms of attracting women. Obviously it has its place but as long as you're able to support yourself then the other factors make a much bigger difference, unless you're looking to date a gold digger.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 12:29 AM
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If you can't tell that he's joking idk what to tell you man
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 12:26 AM
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How do you guys stay positive and not let these intrusive thoughts cause you to be endlessly anxious or self-sabotage? Oh my sweet summer child
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 11:46 PM
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Overhead lighting is what bathroom lighting is. As a gym bro I can assure you that overhead lighting is the most flattering lighting for your physique. For face it's probably what you said about outdoor lighting with a reflector, but that doesn't mean overhead lighting is bad, just not optimal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:24 PM
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Overhead lighting is never flattering Overhead lighting is arguably the most flattering lighting possible, especially for physique
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 07:53 PM
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Instead of actually taking responsibility for your own lives, you place blame on women. And then cry when women place men in the “dangerous” category or “not worth dating” category. It’s so hypocritical it borders on delusion. Redpill is all about taking responsibility and improving your looks, money, status and charisma as much as you possibly can.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 06:05 PM
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Thank you for actually being honest, the amount of women I've seen on this sub claim that looks don't matter is insane
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 04:26 PM
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Women who are 'ok' with being single
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 04:07 PM
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Confidence isn't the key to success, but a lack of confidence will be a massive hinderence in reaching it. It's much better to be slightly arrogant than to be somebody who has constant doubts in themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 07:27 AM
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Even Ronnie Coleman couldn't deadlift 400kg, that's a hell of a lot of weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:40 AM
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You said 'why would it make life worse?'. Of course there's more to life than getting laid but a life with no sex is considerably less enjoyable and fulfilling than a life with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:57 PM
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How so? Are you still getting laid? If so then that means you have women making the first move which puts you in a small category of men attractive enough for women to want to pursue. It's not gonna work for most dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 11:08 AM
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Has nothing to do with taking statements at face value or not, afaik everybody means what they say and nobody is speaking in metaphors, it's just about context. The way somebody is going to speak anonymously on a place like this is often going to be vastly different to the way they talk to people generally irl, the same way in which the way people talk with their close friends behind closed doors is going to be a lot more crude than they way they would talk to their boss or grandparents etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 11:58 PM
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Terrible taste
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 11:21 AM
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Depends how many tats and what they are but they just generally look trashy imo. Even on men they tend to look quite trashy although the right tats in the right spot can look cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 11:19 AM
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Pretty sure most dudes would agree unless they're completely unnoticeable
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 11:15 AM
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<image> Obvious troll post
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:29 AM
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Well done for omitting the first part of that sentence that said 'Having a major glow up will show any dude first-hand how important appearance is for attracting women', which obviously implies that women generally won't date men who aren't physically attractive. If you genuinely believe women will give any man a chance regardless of his status or appearance as long as he has a good personality then I truly think you're either trolling or have never been outside in your life because now that I r…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:03 AM
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Maybe but tbh it doesn't matter much because if he went to a bar or club he wouldn't even need to approach because plenty of girls would approach him first. Being a chad doesn't make you immune to rejection by any means but if you only go for girls who give you choosing signals then you'll have a pretty high success rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 06:15 PM
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Yeah nvm I'm retarded I only watched the first couple seconds of the video, I assumed the interviewer guy was the dude doing the approaches. That dude there could defintely be considered a chad. Edit: that being said, try that experiment in a bar or club and he would get much better results. Cold approaching random people on the street is a waste of time imo because your ROI will be in the gutter compared to a venue where approaches are expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 05:48 PM
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When somebody makes a notable improvement to their appearance via weight loss, gaining muscle, grooming, style, surgery etc, usually a combination of several of those. If one manages to start out as unattractive but reach the conventially attractive threshold with a glowup, the difference in the way they get treated is going to naturally demonstrate to them the importance of appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:22 PM
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And if you think a so called 'Chad' just has it super easy...check this dude out. Verified male model, great body, GREAT HEIGHT....and still....tons of rejections https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2ozvd9 That dude isn't a chad at all, he's on the higher side of average.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:28 PM
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I don't understand what it is with women on this sub and assuming the way guys talk on an anonymous forum for debating the redpill reflects the way they speak or act irl, that would be pretty stupid lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 12:57 PM
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I went bar hopping almost every week for several years. I've seen average dudes pull but not once in my entire life have I seen an ugly dude take home a girl he met out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 12:45 PM
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Almost every woman I know would happily give most guys with a good personality a chance, regardless of their status or physical appearance. Pretty much impossible to argue against an anecdote but all I can say is that my personal experience doesn't even remotely reflect this and evidently a lot of guys here can say the same. Having a major glow up will show any dude first-hand how important appearance is for attracting women and the way you get treated by them in a general sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 12:36 PM
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Tbh I agree that as a dude height isn't the end all be all assuming you're not legitimately short, but all factors considered equal, taller is better (up to a point ofc) and if you take two identical guys except one is average height and one is tall, the taller guy will practically always win. In my opinion the height range goes: Sub 5'5 is the death zone where you're gonna get rejected based on that factor alone by 95% of women, sub 5'8 is hard mode and you will get rejected often due to height…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 10:33 PM
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I agree with you except 20 is old enough to know better
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 08:45 PM
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No, OP is saying that unattractive women have a negative bias against approaches because it's mostly low quality dudes who approach unnatractive women, whereas attractive women get approached by higher quality men so they're less likely to have bad experiences and therefore have less of an issue with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 08:23 PM
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I said it more or less happened because those weren't the exact words used but it was heavily implied. Happened when I was 20 at a party because a dude kicked out my (plastic) chair from under me as a joke so I got up and stood up to him, everyone was chanting for us to fight but I didn't do anything and ended up getting another chair. Girl I was talking to at the time said I should've done something and it made me look weak in front of everyone. Her entire demeanour towards me changed as well, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 08:14 PM
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are you sure about that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 08:00 PM
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I don't think it's possible for a dude with legitimate top teir looks to struggle with women unless he has serious mental problems or he's a complete shut in. Really good looking dudes have women throwing themselves at them if they go to a bar/club or party so literally all they need to do is rock up and escalate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:57 PM
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<image> It does happen, the logic is that a less attractive woman would be easier to pull because she would have lower self esteem, be more appreciative of attention etc. So when a guy doesn't want to deal with rejection then he'll go for girls well below his league. In practise that doesn't always work out but thats the idea of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:39 PM
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That has more or less happened to me before lol. Granted I don't think most women are like that but there is defintely a portion who are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 06:58 PM
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Great comment, agree with everything you said here
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 06:54 PM
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Still online I see..... clearly a high status man with these work hours. By your logic, due to your replies you are also terminally online, I assume you're just trying to bait a response but surely you can see the hypocrisy. And idk exactly what you mean by 'these work hours' but if you're implying I have work at a shitty time of day then have you considered that I'm not from the US and in a different time zone to you, I work 9-5. shared interests If a girl likes a guys personality but not his l…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 04:11 PM
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Taking 2 mins to reply to a notification while I'm on a work break is nothing to do with being terminally online, but I assume you know this and are just trying to troll me, fair play I guess. You still didn't attempt to answer the question I asked in my first response, if looks/money/status/charisma aren't the most important factors for attracting women, then what are exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 12:24 PM
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As a gay man you have 0 experience with dating women so it's pretty funny that you try to claim redpillers are the ones without experience. I clearly stated that I was redpilled by my life experiences, not by seeing stuff online. I had a major glow up a few years ago and the massive changes in the way I got treated by everybody, but specifically women, made me realise how true the idea of looks/money/status is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 11:57 AM
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So you think men who believe that looks/money/status/charisma are the main factors in attracting women are under 15 or highly sheltered? If that is the case, then what exactly do you think are the most important factors for attracting women, because I truly don't understand how people can disagree with that. For me, and I think I can speak for a lot of men here when I say this, getting more experiences with women, as well as general observations of their behaviour and things they have said (eith…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 08:58 PM
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Gonna call bs considering I take steroids, specifically testosterone, and it hasn't ever turned me into a psychopath.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 03:42 PM
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I know you’re not seeing this a subreddit of men who deeply hate being told to self-improve, are you? Is this bait or something lol, the core tenants of the redpill are self improvement
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 01:06 PM
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An imbalance in what sense, too much testosterone compared to cortisol?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 12:58 PM
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Rules 1 and 2 is basically what everything that has ever been debated on this sub boils down to lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 08:42 AM
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Testosterone is the problem because you've heard that nfl players have a high rate of domestic violence...? Excellent reasoning, that's a flawless argument right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 08:08 AM
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Lol it's nothing to do with insecurity, I used to do starting strength myself, it just sucks as a bodybuilding program assuming your goals are to build an impressive physique and not to get as strong as possible in the big 3. Which let's be real, is what 99% of guys who are starting out in the gym are looking to achieve. For a newbie any program that features lifting weights and progressively overloading is gonna give them some results, that doesn't mean it's the best possible option for their g…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 03:18 PM
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Unless you stay in contact with all your clients or customers at your job then no that's got nothing to do with social circle. And if you had a big social circle in your youth but nowadays no longer stay in contact, then no that's not having a large social circle either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 03:03 PM
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It's one way to get charisma, not the only way. For example you can increase charisma by working a job that requires you to talk to lots of people. Also you could have had a big social circle in high school and college but once you graduated it tapeted off, but you kept the social skills you gained.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 02:58 PM
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Dude starting strength sucks unless you heavily modify the program, but otherwise everything you've said is on point
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 11:13 AM
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Thats because looks >>>>>>>> money.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 11:01 AM
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That's not what charisma means
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 08:25 AM
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That absolutely happens when guys are growing up, in places like school, when hanging around outside of school, when playing sports, at parties, and yes once they get older it happens at the bar. I wasn't claiming that your average guy is having a brawl every time he walks down the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 08:41 AM
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Someone insulting you on reddit ≠ the general view on what a Karen is
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 07:12 AM
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They clearly don't know their place as they find it humiliating to be put in the same place as other adults (women) Please elaborate I've more often heard the word Karen used for inappropriate reasons (e.g. sending back the complete wrong meal in a restaurant or telling your boss something is against your employee rights) Look up Karen compilations on YouTube and watch as many as you like. You'll notice that literally not a single one of these videos contains a situation like that because that's…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 04:19 PM
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Please give an example of a woman acting completely reasonable getting labelled as a Karen by any notable number of people. I've never seen this in my life but I'm open to be proven wrong. Also having worked retail for my first job I agree with you that there can be men who act just as bad as karens do, where I would disagree is that people look at this as just 'boys being boys' or as masculine. These people were also looked down on to a great extent. Sure they don't have a meme made after them …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 03:18 PM
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Lol that's not true at all, there's a difference between being assertive and being entitled, rude and delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:48 PM
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Wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:42 PM
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Men have never "known their place" You're clueless, men know their place because if they disrespect or try to assert themselves over the wrong man they get their teeth knocked in. Men learn this at a young age and it humbles them quickly. Not to say there aren't dudes who haven't been humbled but this is uncommon. Women often get away with this behaviour without consequence, leading to arrogance. Also nobody is calling a woman who simply stands up for herself a Karen or a bitch, a Karen is someb…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 12:53 PM
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if you believe in A, then you must believe in B!” that’s…. not how things work. but my point is at the very least be ideologically consistent
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 06:37 AM
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Yeah true re-read your comment and looks like I misunderstood. However I stand by what I said about it not working for undesirable dudes, similar to most dating advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 11:59 AM
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Idk what your point is exactly, Jamie Foxx and David Beckham aren't remotely closely related genetically speaking but they are both attractive men who can easily get women. Not all attractive men share the exact same features. Undesirable men simply aren't granted the privilege of being able to sit around and wait for women to come to them, they need to take an active role in pursuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 11:40 AM
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Not bad advice at all except that only works if you're coming from a position of desirability, aka if you're an attractive or otherwise high value man. This is why the red pill advocates for leveling up your looks/money/status as much as possible. If you're not at all attractive to women, you can't assume the role of the pursued because nobody wants to pursue you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 09:43 AM
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With the sex ratio being relatively even if one man can't pair up, one woman can't either. Not entirely true, top teir men have a rotation of women so it's entirely possible for multiple women to be seeing one man leaving several lower-teir men with nobody
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 02:36 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 02:29 AM
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Maybe the US just has a completely different culture to where I live but I find that incredibly hard to believe. This coming from a musician who's been in the band scene for a fair few years, sure musicians do get laid but only the good looking ones who also happen to be vocalists/guitarists lol. Only exception is if the band has really high status, looks go out the window and you get dudes like Mick Jagger slaying. Still even he would get overlooked for a better looking dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 02:38 AM
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Examples being the older women of this subreddit This has to be bait lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 02:12 AM
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You asked for famous people, it's gonna be hard to find a famous person without status lol. They may have been famous but still played dorky roles (Eg. look at Will Poulter in We're the Millers). Anyway besides these guys first that comes to mind is zyzz who if u don't know of him used to be some world of warcraft obsessed nerdy shut in who started training in the gym and ended up getting jacked and changing his whole persona to a stereotypical chad type. He ended up dying at only 22 unfortunate…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 02:25 PM
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I wouldn't go as far as to call them incels but some famous dudes who had big glow ups are Will Poulter, Chris Pratt, Drake
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 09:09 AM
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20, but 18 is where the clock really starts ticking to get some experience
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 07:20 AM
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I'm genuinely curious about this other side of the redpill you're referring to that promotes taking advantage of mentally ill women, please elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 10:56 AM
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Putting in work to level up your appearance, your financial situation, your social status and your charisma is apparently taking advantage of a mentally ill person and hurting both her and yourself in the process....... ? Bruh do half the people on this sub even know what the redpill is?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 07:06 AM
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Not remotely true, nice generalisation. My experiences in the real world are what led me to redpill beliefs, not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 06:58 AM
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Lol just ignore that joke of a subreddit, I think it's been proven several times that the majority of its members are literal virgins themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 05:15 AM
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Looks is and always will be king
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:38 PM
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Not true t. Sex haver
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:36 PM
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Redpill isn't inherently misogynistic, there are probably plenty of misogynists who hold redpill beliefs but the redpill just means looks/money/status and charisma to an extent are what attract women, as apposed to 'being a good person' 'personality' etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:00 PM
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True but top level looks + moolah + status = God mode
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 11:53 AM
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Blue-ish Man Lol that comment is basically textbook redpill
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 07:30 AM
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Nobody considers muscled freaks as Chads, a chad is just a tall, ripped (but not super jacked) and handsome guy. Not a chad: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSnipZfe2wEhyYb9mZyd1rtmwhbb5ffWofaQQ&usqp=CAU https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTxlmP9j0PJgaUSXWJGDzfpm7RLnjPVMe-8Pg&usqp=CAU A chad: https://imgur.com/a/ChlMTII https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTjk6PVMKHSm6JpP7Uc9LqebkiBpz1nJySlYA&usqp=CAU
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 06:53 AM
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Huh that's got nothing to do with what I said. My point was that as a woman there's no way to tell if the dude is just looking for sex whether you approach him first or he approaches you first. It's a completely personal decision whether one wants to approach or not, but not doing so because you think it will only result in guys looking for sex isn't a good reason not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:58 AM
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Nah c'mon lol that isn't a legit argument if you think about it for more than a few seconds. A man who makes the first move could be looking soley for sex just as much as a man who gets approached first.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:18 AM
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Looks, money, status is clearly true though, you seriously think a really hot, rich celebrity won't have an easier time with women than an ugly, poor janitor ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 01:45 AM
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Set up a tinder account with an average-unnatractive woman as the pic, you can see for yourself very easily
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 01:06 AM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:26 AM
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women irl pick men more for personality and character and weigh that more than looks Anybody who's made a significant improvement in their appearance knows this is 100% bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 09:56 PM
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and really it rarely is looks or income Yeah sure thing lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 09:32 PM
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It's not only really hot women who get attention from men. Tinder experiments show that even the least attractive women get more attention than the most attractive men. Inb4 the men on tinder are only looking for sex etc. Some of them are, some of them aren't, either way it still counts as attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 08:51 PM
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Hardly even a redpill opinion to say that men and women put effort into their appearance to appeal to the opposite sex. What you hoped his response would be is irrelevant to whether it was a reasonable thing to say or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 08:09 PM
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The expectations of men in question: don't be fat (optional)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 07:56 PM
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Looks*
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 07:52 PM
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It was a perfectly reasonable response
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 07:40 PM
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You seem pretty redpilled to me bro haha, you pretty much spelled out every major pillar of the ideology as something you agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:03 AM
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Respect to you for having a lot of good takes on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:00 AM
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Idk where you heard that but Tate has never once said that or even remotely implied it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 01:19 PM
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Hahaha 25 is not a child what are you smoking. A good number of people I know irl were married with kids (atleast kids on the way) and owned a home by 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 01:12 PM
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If you're going to do a cycle don't even consider starting until you can rep bare minimum 2 plates on bench press.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 09:22 AM
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And you've never seen someone approach there? I used to go bars and clubs atleast once a week for a good 3 year period and close to every single time I went I would witness several approaches. I personally made approaches and got approached plenty of times, as did guys I would go out with. This is in Australia if that makes any difference, I assume the culture would be similar to US and other western countries. I do generally think cold approaching is kind of weird (I mean I don't think it's wro…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 07:28 PM
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Yeah understandable, I personally think it is pretty weird and desperate appearing to cold approach basically anywhere outside of a bar or club, but those two venues are fair game.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 05:28 PM
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Have you ever been to a bar or club in your life
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 04:26 PM
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I have gotten laid many many times by cold approaching at the bar or club, as have many dudes I know irl. It's not a rare thing whatsoever. Only prerequisite is rules #1 and #2.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 04:24 PM
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Not denying that some men are like that, but it's defintely not most.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 12:48 PM
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You're right, however saying attractive people will get away with more is a massive understatement lol. Plenty of social experiments and tinder experiments prove this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 12:35 PM
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Halo effect means that weirdo often does just mean ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 12:10 PM
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It's 6 years out of high school, a few years out of college too. In terms of your position in life, it's pretty far out of high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:38 AM
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I'm sorry for any vitriol you've recieved from men in redpill spaces, the ideology should be all geared towards self improvement but it would be ignorant of me to say it doesn't attract a lot of men who are generally misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:44 PM
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Can be said for literally any movement or ideology. Redpill just means accepting looks/money/status/charisma is what is important for attraction, and leveling up these attributes. There are plenty of loser geeks who identify as redpill, but also plenty of guys who are very succesful with women and in other avenues of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:25 AM
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Redpill just means improving your looks/money/status/charisma as much as possible. Manipulating women into losing value isn't a basic tenant or even a tenant in general of trp.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 08:25 AM
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100% agree with this, your experience was very similar to mine also
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 08:19 AM
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It's a /fit/ meme bro it's not meant to be taken serious ahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 12:48 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 01:33 PM
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I don't think anyone should be buying drinks for people they're not dating. Splitting the bill is fine. Huh why not, that's been happening at bars for centuries
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 01:25 PM
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Lol yeah I don't think most women would do that, the point of my anecdote was that I was automatically considered not creepy based purely on my appearance. And I experienced the opposite when I was unattractive and frequently observe the same happening to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 02:11 AM
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If you're a really good looking guy you can still be perceived as creepy I agree, but you would have to either have extremely stunted social skills (due to autism or something) or actively be trying to come off that way, where as an unattractive dude is often going to be perceived as creepy by default regardless of his behaviour, that's the difference. Main reason I feel so strongly about this is because I've experienced both sides of being attractive or not due to large amounts of weight loss a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 12:54 AM
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It's irrelevant because even 90% of 0.003 is such an astronomically small number that it's dumb to treat the remaining 99.99% as if they're part of that group.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 10:41 PM
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80% of homicide victims are men fyi, if anyone needs to fear their safety it's men. And yes, most of the perpetrators of those murders are also men, about 90%, but that is pretty much irrelevant as if there is a global homicide rate of 6 per 100,000, and gang violence would skew those numbers greatly so let's say 3 per 100,000 assuming you don't live in a really dangerous area, then 0.0027% of men you encounter are murderers as are 0.0003% of women. So in other words the number of men in the wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 08:47 PM
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Never understood why people talk about Ted Bundy like he was a really good looking dude, he was completely average in terms of face, height and physique. That said I do agree with your point about whether you're creepy or not being mostly up to looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 08:08 PM
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Your physical appearance determines 90% of the chance of you coming off as creepy or not
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 07:53 PM
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Chadfishing is when people make a fake profile on tinder with a really hot guy as the profile pic and then go out of their way to make the worst possible profile they can think of eg. Will put in their bio that they are registered child sex offender, that they are domestic abuser and hate women etc etc. These dudes end up getting 10x as many matches as an average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 07:49 PM
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One word refutes your entire post: Chadfish
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 07:34 PM
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Agree tbh, simping is the root of all evil in the dating world
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 02:07 AM
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I see myself as better than my past self, other than that I don't have many thoughts at all towards other fat people. But yeah I stand by what I said, dieting down legitimately isn't that difficult and I never understood why some people act like it is. It seems to be a bit of a self fulfilling prophecy, fat people tell themselves it's really hard to lose weight, so they end up make that their reality. I guess the real difficult part is simply being consistent, but there are strategies you can us…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 11:07 PM
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A large part of men's perceived worth comes from how much sex they get, so of course some men are going to be quite desperate about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 10:30 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 05:25 PM
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This is such a dumb comment. 80/20 doesn't say anything about the bottom 80% of men all being incel virgins, it just says that the top 20% of men get 80% of female attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 04:59 PM
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Haven't seen that personally but even if you're right, wanting someone not to be obese isn't a high standard, that should be a default standard of everybody, male or female, who is in remotely good shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 04:27 PM
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Very few posts on this sub are about calling women landwhales, but regardless, wanting someone to not be obese isn't a high standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 04:00 PM
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People have been cold approaching in bars for centuries, it is 100% a viable way to get women. But yes of course, you have to follow the two steps of being attractive and not being unnatractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 01:46 PM
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Lol talking about the weather is such a stereotypically dumb way to start a convo with a girl
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 01:38 PM
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They would've replied saying 'cope' and that's against the rules of the sub
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 12:29 PM
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I don't understand why you keep bringing up this idea about asking people their bodycount on a first date, I agree it would be a weird thing to do but it's completely unrelated to your original comment or anything I said in my replies.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 10:49 PM
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It is a movement but in the context of this subreddit it's also just a categorisation of certain beliefs when it comes to dating. There are also people on this subreddit who identify themselves as bluepill, despite the bluepill not being a movement. Its just a quick way to explain their general views on dating, like in politics how people identify as liberal or conservative so you will have a general gist on what their political opinions will be. Makes it easier on a debate sub like this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 09:14 PM
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Yeah I agree, the redpill didn't invent any of this stuff, the redpill is just a term used to describe and categorise a specific way of thinking and/or acting that has been around for decades if not far longer in some form or another- I guess you could say it's descriptive, not perscriptive. In other words the pills and their terminology is pretty new stuff but what they describe or discuss isn't. That's the way I see it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 08:32 PM
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The term body count, or discussing how many 'bodies' someone has had, whether it is to brag about or to shame someone, has been around for ages and is nothing to do with the manosphere lol. See this definition from urban dictionary that was made in 2006, so nearly 18 years ago, and I know the term is older than that. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 07:45 PM
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Not really, I have a gf rn and before that I got laid from the club/bar on a regular basis. Look at guys like Austin Dunham or Mike Thurston on YouTube, these guys are textbook redpill and they slay. Only redpill guys who are gonna have a hard time with women are guys who were dealt a really poor hand in the genetics department imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 06:45 PM
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Most men are 'big' in some way, atleast compared to women, most men have a short haircut, most men have facial hair, body hair. Funnily enough I'm not surprised that you have 0 past partners lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 05:20 PM
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Yeah I mean I'd tend to agree that there's too many dudes in the redpill space who just sit around and complain about women and dating without actually working on themselves like a bunch of losers, which is dumb asf, maybe they're just perpetually stuck in the anger stage of grief or something lol. But just because there are dudes like that doesn't mean that's what the redpill ideology promotes, the redpill to me is all about self improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:50 PM
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Body count isn't a redpill term whatsoever, most girls I knew in high school were using it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 11:08 AM
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If a guy works towards his game, fitness, money then he is by definition redpilled, unless he's doing those things solely for his own personal benefit and not in any way, shape or form to increase how attractive he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 10:42 AM
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If you are content with working for $15/hr while living at your parent's place then you're not redpilled. Inb4 no true scotsman, yeah no, the whole point of the redpill is increasing your looks/money/status/charisma as much as you possibly can. If you're just a total fkn loser who does nothing to change it then you would be acting in complete opposition to your own beliefs as a redpiller.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 10:38 AM
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This reads like a bait post
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 10:21 AM
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Lol are you sure you're into men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 09:50 AM
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Yeah I mean tbf everyone has different strengths and weaknesses and I should have said that in my post. Personally I found university, specifically sticking to a study routine quite difficult for example. I also have it easier when it comes to dieting because my BMR is like 3000 cals, though I would argue the years I spent lifting weights and putting on muscle to need that amount of energy daily means I earned it, I wasn't born needing that much food lol. I know everyone is different but I never…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 06:24 PM
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Even if you are a total jock, chad thundercock, you still have to make the first move and not be a wuss. This is just the truth. Nah these dudes get women throwing themselves at them all time if they go to the bar or club etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:02 PM
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Yeah weight loss is only difficult in the first few weeks to a month. After that you adjust to feeling hunger and it becomes completely tolerable and once you start to actually see the visual changes it is very rewarding. Seeing yourself become more attractive by the day is satisfying and you have a persistent feeling of excitement that you're gonna keep looking better and better as you cut. That was my experience anyway. It helped that I had a strong muscle base underneath from lifting for the …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:12 PM
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Hahaha this is so goddamn out of touch I'm in awe
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 11:46 AM
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Tinder experiments say otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 11:39 AM
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In choosing a relationship partners… Probably men? Lol not a chance in the world, men on average have considerably lower standards than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 11:38 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 10:59 AM
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communist
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 10:36 AM
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Losing weight isn't that hard, I never understood people acting like it's so difficult and unrealistic to expect people to do (I've lost 100 pounds myself fyi). Literally all it entails is eating 20-25% less in the day than what you need, then resisting the hunger that defecit causes you. Sure, you need some discipline, but when it comes to body composition, putting on muscle is 10x harder than losing fat, and even then I would consider that easier than getting a college degree, mastering a skil…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 10:27 AM
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Well DUFF literally stands for 'designated ugly FAT friend' but I guess words can have their meaning stretched to an extent, though I've never personally irl seen it used the way you described. In my comment I was only referring to legitimately fat and ugly women. I did over generalise a bit, I understand pump and dump can still happen when the dude is not out of her league, but the overwhelming majority of the case I do think it happens when he is. Unattractive dudes simply don't have enough op…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:55 PM
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Both unattractive men and women get treated like shit compared to their attractive counterparts, but unattractive women still have it far easier than men when it comes to sex and dating. As long as you date in your league (which most women are delusional about) then it would take 20 mins on tinder to find a dude willing to LTR you. If you don't want to be the DUFF then stop making shitty lifestyle choices and get fit, I truly feel no sympathy for obese people, male or female, who complain about …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:20 PM
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Unattractive women can still easily get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 11:04 AM
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Meds. Now
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 09:35 AM
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Any man with high test has a higher libido than essentially all women. Men are less sensitive to testosterone than women are, hence why women can get the same results as men with considerably lower doses of steroids, therefore a man with low T may have a lower libido than a woman with high T, but that's the exception to the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 12:45 PM
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If person A has higher T than person B - it doesn't mean that A has higher libido. That is true to a small extent, testosterone and sex drive aren't correlated 1:1 but they do have a definite positive correlation, if person A has 30-50 times as much testosterone as person B (which is about the difference between men and women's T levels) then they will undoubtedly have a higher libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 12:38 PM
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Do a test cycle and then try make this post again lol. Testosterone has a very strong effect on libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 11:36 AM
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Bruh you said clearly in your comment it will result in you getting rejected whether it's cold approach or warm approach (getting to know them first), and I agree to a major extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:51 PM
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Imo the rating system comes from popularity, not subjective opinion. A 10/10 man or woman is somebody who is attractive to the largest amount of people possible. A 9 less people than a 10, an 8 less than a 9 etc. You may find a 2/10 attractive but they are still going to struggle because the overwhelming majority of people find them repulsive. On the contrary, you may find a 10/10 unattractive but they're still going to have an incredibly easy time dating because the overwhelming majority of peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 02:18 PM
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Have you never asked yourself why the lowkey attractive dude who is extroverted beats the tall goodlooking shy dude at the club? I mean no because I've never seen this lol. Looks aren't everything in day to day life, but in the club, they absolutely are
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 12:11 PM
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wait until you're 35 to have sex Probably the worst take I've seen on this sub recently
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:25 AM
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Huh, you claim this isn't true in the first part then explain why it is true in the second part ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:24 AM
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He could be lying and even if it's true, he was still 6'3 back then and still a kickboxer so he would've been pretty ripped.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 05:18 PM
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Yeah and he probably didn't get laid when he looked like that I don't see your point
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 05:01 PM
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Dumb people doing dumb shit is nothing new, that doesn't mean you can't have safe pregnancy free sex with someone if you're smart about it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 10:57 AM
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Contraception is a thing fyi
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 10:52 AM
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No gay men have won the Olympia, who are you referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 10:47 AM
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Lose weight
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 09:36 AM
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Tate isn't particulary handsome but he's like 6'3, jacked and looks masculine. Not really the same as being some ugly mclovin looking fella.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 08:38 AM
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Yeah that I can agree with, the apparent general consensus views you see will vary greatly based on the people who you associate yourself with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 06:05 PM
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Lol I enjoy sex just as much as the next dude, I just believe in optimising yourself to get as much of it as possible. And it's not just for sex either, having a good amount looks, money, status and charisma helps you in all aspects of life, your confidence is greater, the way you get treated in society is considerably better, your freedom to pursue interests without road blocks (generally financial) or judgement from others is increased. I know it sounds like I'm overthinking it or acting too r…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 09:40 AM
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Yeah agreed it's not essential, it's just one aspect of several that will increase your sexual market value and allow you to get a greater quality/quantity of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 09:31 AM
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You think having high status (eg. being successful sports player, musician, tiktoker, etc) won't increase your popularity among women? Sure thing bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 09:22 AM
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Yes, explains why most radfems are fat and ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 08:55 AM
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It is a market whether you like it or not. I can see why you would think it's a pretty sad way of looking at human interactions and love, and I agree to an extent, but it's still accurate nonetheless. Men are competing with other men to get women, the women chose the men with the highest sexual market value (looks, money, status, charisma) that they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 08:54 AM
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Stay out of our country then
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 08:15 AM
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Saying someone who is nervous has mental issues is a bit of a stretch
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 07:50 AM
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Yeah idk many guys irl who use the term redpill or any pill for that matter, but their beliefs and actions strongly align with the redpill as opposed to bluepill. I do think the whole pill description is pretty cringey as well but it's just a way of categorising different ways of thinking so it can be helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 07:14 AM
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Yeah I think you're right, this is reddit after all. There are exceptions though, same goes for women, maybe I was a little harsh. It does seem most of the traffic this sub gets comes from dorky types though. I'm just here because a good argument for entertainment purposes is always good when I'm bored at work lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 10:40 PM
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100%, women on here are clueless hahaha.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 09:29 PM
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Dorky feminist types.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 09:22 PM
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Bahaha couldn't have said it better myself. The bluepill way of thinking being the deafult is almost purely a reddit thing, not an irl thing, or even a general social media thing, and that's because reddit is filled with dork types like you said. Idk any masculine attractive dude irl who act bluepilled, it's exclusively dorky men and women. I've said it in a previous comment, playing a lot of sports in high school and college, the jock type dudes I was around would be labelled as incels on reddi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 09:20 PM
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That analogy implies men get 0 options and women only have options that are shitty low quality men, which is not true at all. All other factors controlled for, the quality of options for men and women should be about the same, the quantity is just lower for men. If you're a woman and the only dudes who want to date you are unattractive losers then you're probably not much of a catch yourself unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 09:53 PM
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<image> This Nate Diaz at 6ft 170.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 03:02 PM
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No shit looks are the #1 factor idk how this has ever been considered controversial lmao even little kids know that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 09:36 AM
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You look lot bigger than 170 ngl, especially if you're over 6ft, at your height I'd guess about 200. Assuming you're not abusing tf out of angles, lighting and pump in your pic lol. 185 is still 15lbs less than the average man in USA, and yeah I get that the average dude is a fatass but 185 isn't really that fat imo, obviously depends if the dude lifts or not and their frame size. I know plenty of dudes irl around that height and weight who don't look noticeably out of shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 07:21 AM
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Why 185lbs specifically lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 05:11 AM
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Going to some self defence classes isn't the same as getting legitimately proficient in a martial art like muay thai or BJJ. And I agree that when it comes so fights you should run and incapacitate first, but that's generally a rule that's talking about fighting strangers because you don't know if you're going to get ganged up on or if they're carrying a blade etc. If you're trying to fend off a man who you are in a relationship with, then being proficient in a martial art will help you a lot. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 11:01 AM
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If you're not willing to put in the effort to learn how to defend yourself then quit complaing about not being able to win a fight.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 10:47 AM
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people in my area have guns therefore I do not see your point You do realise there's places in the world that aren't the USA right
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 08:44 AM
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Strong for a non-athlete woman My son started legitimately winning arm wrestling around age 10 <image> I don't think you're as strong as you think you are lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 08:31 AM
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It's true for untrained women but if you actually committed to some sort of martial art and worked out you could defintely beat a teenage boy in a fight
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 08:20 AM
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Pretty sure all anybody wants is for women to be happy with dating in their own league
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 08:16 AM
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Imo really good social skills aren't going to help you much, though a lack of social skills will hurt you. As long as you're a normal dude who isn't really spergy or socially awkward and you have the balls to initiate and escalate, then looks and status are going to be what makes all the difference at that point. And I reckon for most guys a little bit of booze is all it takes to get to that level of social skills even if they're normally more reserved.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 06:20 AM
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unless it's in a social setting like a bar or club or something Yeah I agree with that I should have clarified, I dont think most women like being cold approached when they're just going about their business walking down the street etc, but in social settings as long as the guy is attractive then it's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 05:22 AM
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What is cope, that women don't like unnatractive guys approaching them but do like it when hot guys do ? Or that it's a reddit thing for women to say men need to stop approaching. Neither are copes bro, idk what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 05:14 AM
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The redpill to me is about understanding the concepts you brought up and then working your ass off to max out looks/money/status/charisma as much as possible, not to just give up and wallow in misery like a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 12:16 PM
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his face does not look masculine, it looks like a baby Sure it does, completely normal looking baby here https://imgur.com/a/iNddeJW I understand the point you're trying to make but there's more to having a masculine face than just a defined jawline you get from low bodyfat. Brow thickness, having deep set eyes, nose size, overall skull size, facial hair obviously all makes a difference in how masculine a face looks. Compare Tom Holland's considerably leaner face to the dude I sent, he's way les…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 11:51 AM
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So you think that dude doesn't look masculine ? I'm not saying he's handsome but that's besides the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 11:35 AM
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A dude can be masculine af assuming he has muscle under the fat and beard/body hair. Eg: https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/licensed-image?q=tbn:ANd9GcRZOX7eZBbBhxBgc7LV2zJ9HP6_L0m5qSSAv4eh5xm9DkB_jql4NrIYuNUcCLkN5oi7BM-_hCc_cB34jOQ
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 11:28 AM
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Be able to back up your confidence with something
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 06:25 AM
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Because it's dumb to put this guy https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQUH5BXMIQAGz8MazIXc0EU9-CNp076r3JFiw&usqp=CAU and this guy https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSaJNzzXnBESXAsFGYibnwkjh29cFR85BRK5g&usqp=CAU in the same category, even if you wouldnt get with either. There's a spectrum between completely repulsive and extremely attractive, surely you don't find every dude you would fuck equally attractive and every dude you wouldn't fuck equally unnatractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 06:20 AM
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A small amount of fat can accentuate femininity to an extent but there's a point where it ceases to feminise someone and just starts to make them resemble a troll
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:59 AM
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I sort of agree with you but I think you're missing the point to an extent, following redpill ideas isnt about getting a date with any woman full stop (well it shouldn't be, for some guys I guess it is lol), its about allowing you to get the highest quality/quanity of women possible. Quick shitty analogy, imagine saying to someone going to college 'going to college is stupid because you can get a job without it'. While this is true, the quality and quantity of jobs available to you without a deg…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 11:33 AM
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Imo being redpilled just means understanding that looks, money, status and charisma/social skills are what attracts women and working to improve those attributes. Whether you are actually successful with women or not is very dependant on genetics as I think looks are the most important of those. A naturally good looking dude is going to have it pretty easy regardless of what pill his views align with, whereas a dude with shitty genetics is going to struggle to some extent either way. That said I…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 10:27 AM
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Being red/blackpilled doesn't mean you struggle with women, it just means you understand the reality of what causes attraction. I could be wrong but I feel like a good proportion of guys on this sub have pretty active sex lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:37 AM
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If he gets literally 0 female attention it's probably his looks tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 07:57 AM
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Heard it here first, mass murder has 0 consequences for the perpetrator
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 06:29 AM
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It's a reddit thing not an irl thing, just like many things said by women on this sub. That said, women generally don't like it when unattractive men approach them, but they have 0 issue 95% of the time when an attractive man does, even if they do end up rejecting him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:00 AM
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Great response lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 02:30 PM
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That's a long winded way of saying you have no idea
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 04:15 AM
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Why do women always say they do that stuff for themselves not for men then.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:44 AM
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The fact that the majority of women end up in relationships proves that most women don't think it's better to be single
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:25 AM
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Hahahaha surely this is a troll post
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 07:45 AM
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It's great that you're like that but just because you have good morals doesn't mean all or even the majority of women are like you. It's probably 50/50. I think men are exactly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:05 PM
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The chances are still there but they are drastically reduced. If you have a really high smv then odds of your girlfriend getting to know someone with a SMV high enough compared to you that the risk/reward of cheating on you or leaving you for them is worth it, and this person also actively wanting to get with your partner are pretty low. But either way cheating does happen every day. Your partner being very attractive also increases the chances of that happening because she will have more male a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:56 PM
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No way cold approach leads to lays 1/100 times wtf, assuming you're approaching at bars/clubs/parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:39 PM
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Many will but many won't, its close to 50/50 imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 12:36 PM
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Yes, appears in many places as well besides just dating, similar to other math concepts like bell curves or the golden ratio
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 04:00 AM
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Just a coping mechanism I'd assume. Tbh it's not even that bad nowadays, but I remember back even 2016-18 time, saying stuff along the lines of looks are very important for attracting women on any mainstream sub would legitimately get you hundreds of downvotes. I left reddit for 5 years or so and when I came back a lot of attitudes seem to have shifted, albeit not by a huge margin but it is noticeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 08:03 AM
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In the real world this isn't controversial, only on reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 05:42 AM
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This implies that if a man makes the first move then the woman is safe from being fuckzoned, which isn't remotely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 01:20 AM
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When I said discriminated against I was referring to how they get labeled as landwhales etc, not people not wanting to date them. I still think it's wrong and I don't engage in that behaviour myself but I also think it's not nearly the same as being discriminated against for features you can't control eg. race, sex, disabilities etc etc. but those plussize spaces would have you thinking its just as bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:49 AM
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Yeah I can agree with that, I believe in having manners and being respectful, there's no reason to insult someone unless they've done something that warrants it. I do find it a little bit hard to sympathise with fat people because it's an issue caused solely by ones poor life choices, and many fat people seem to want to come up with excuses to shift the blame from themselves, if not they simply want to accept their shitty situation and have others accept them for ""'who they are'"" instead of pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:51 AM
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Yeah true, I don't personally know enough fat women to have an opinion either way on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:50 AM
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Fat people should be insecure, because if they're perfectly content in themselves then they'll never get the drive to lose the weight. Lost 100lbs myself so I know exactly what it's like to be fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:31 AM
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You seem to be implying redpill men can't be normal and nice haha. I think you'd be surprised how many dudes believe in redpill ideas to an extent, they just don't speak about it openly or bring it up to strangers out of the blue. As far as I see it, all it means to be a redpiller is to acknowledge that looks/money/status/charisma are the most important attributes to be attractive and to garner respect, and then to work towards increasing those stats as much as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:11 AM
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Just because you can still get laid if you're tall and handsome with no muscle, doesn't mean women don't care about muscularity- you would be even more attractive with muscle.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:01 AM
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Women do on average have a lower sex drive than men, sure there are outliers but generally speaking higher testosterone = higher sex drive. Ask any woman who has taken anabolic steroids what effect it had on her libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 08:23 AM
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Status has the power to trump looks but your SMV doesn't increase with status at a remotely linear rate, you really need to have top teir status for it to give you a notable smv boost. Here's a crude graph to explain what I mean https://imgur.com/a/WYQtNOC
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 01:33 AM
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You can't just extrapolate your own personal choices onto all women, if you think female attraction varies wildly then that's fair but you didn't say that in your original comment, you just said that female attraction doesn't work that way period, which is observably incorrect if you go to any bar or nightclub on a Friday night lol. I disagree that 'very few' women are capable of instant sexual connection or attraction, I just think a dude has to be in the top percentiles of looks in order to il…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 12:37 AM
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That's just such bs haha c'mon now, if women didn't experience attraction without having an extended period of time to 'feel the spark' then one night stands wouldn't be a thing. Women absolutely do feel attraction the same way as men, they just have a lower sex drive so it will take a comparatively much more good looking dude to stimulate that feeling of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 12:27 AM
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Complete radio silence on the bluepill side after this comment dropped lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 01:28 AM
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Tend to agree with this, and to be honest, purely anecdotally, even as a kid I knew that looks/money/status/charisma were the most important things for attracting women, as did most guys I grew up with, so I never got this whole 'lied to' idea. I just saw it as common sense and bluepill ideas only being a sort of white lie that people would say to be polite, not a genuine description of how attraction works. Only when I started coming into places like reddit did I realise that a lot of people he…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 06:32 AM
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Agreed with you until that last paragraph lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 06:14 AM
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Yeah I agree, although I guess you could say the female equivalent of that would be height goggles
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 06:13 AM
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Beer goggles isn't a male only phenomenon
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 06:11 AM
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You'll never convince me that women don't deep down love the attention and validation regardless of their complaints about being objectified or not truly desired for a LTR, even if it can be tiresome at times. The amount of women who seem to have a near mental breakdown over becoming """'invisible'""" when they start aging and losing their looks is pretty good evidence for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 09:52 PM
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there is no such thing as a 10% male who just walks into a room and women swoon for him to the exclusion of all others Lol I know a number of dudes who fit this description perfectly
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 12:06 AM
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Only issue I have with Wuhan is for starting the pandemic
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 10:59 AM
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Thats very shitty and you didn't deserve that at all but you're extrapolating your own experiences onto everybody else, it's not the norm for people to have those things happen to them just because they are unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 10:39 AM
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I'd say vicious is an exaggeration, more like unkind to or indifferent. But it's not a gendered thing, men are the same to other men, women are exactly the same way to other women as well as to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 10:31 AM
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Your linked study is talking about overweight people, doesn't mention ugly people at all as far as I could see
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 10:24 AM
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Women on PPD complaining about how they get treated for being obese will never get old. Diet and exercise. It's not that hard. I used to be fat asf and I got treated badly by both men and women, it's not a gendered issue, and it's not something that can't be completely solved with a bit of discipline and consistency.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 10:08 AM
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constantly under the threat of violence and treated less than human for being 20 pounds overweight Doubt.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 06:55 AM
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I don't believe any notable number of women would date a guy they themselves rated as below average, even if the guy has a good personality. Just because they engaged with a guy on OKC doesn't mean they actually ended up meeting up irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 11:04 PM
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I encourage you to set up a tinder account with pics of an unattractive dude- you will get next to 0 matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 10:53 PM
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https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRfgItcZboVw71_8TmLqodwclDhAPuxWMJFrw&usqp=CAU this stat is purely based on rating looks, not on whether they right or left swiped so you can't use the flooded inbox argument
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 10:50 PM
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This comment completely annihilates OPs argument to the point of it being funny haha
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 06:26 PM
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Yeah 100%, it isn't men perpetuating this so called issue whatsoever, 9/10 of the women I've been with want to be dominated in one way or another
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 05:51 PM
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This isn't the checkmate atheist moment you thought it would be because I don't disagree with your comment lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 05:38 PM
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Don't be fat isn't an unrealistic preference and online dating stats show that women are orders of magnitude more unrealistic/picky in their physical preferences regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 04:50 PM
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Very very very few lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 04:42 PM
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I would bet money that you are overweight if not obese. Thats the only time I would say a woman will slip under men's radars and it's hard to feel sympathy for you as it's completely self inflicted, saying this as a former obese dude. Lose weight and all of a sudden you won't be invisible to men, trust me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 11:07 AM
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Mission failed, we'll get em next time
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 10:39 AM
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What country
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 10:07 AM
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The natural limit really isn't that high unless you are genetically blessed. There's a saying in bodybuilding spaces that goes "Big, Lean, Natural. Pick 2". Basically if you want to be lean enough to have a six pack but also big enough to have clearly noticeable muscle mass when you've got a t-shirt on, you need to take steroids. It's a bit of an oversimplification but there's a reason why so many people take that stuff besides just wanting results quicker. First example that comes to mind of a …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 08:22 PM
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If you mean ifbb pro size bodybuilders then I agree, but your gym rat running a bit of test probably has the most broad appeal to women in terms of physique imo. Look at 90% of the Hollywood sex symbols, they all have juiced physiques or atleast borderline.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:40 PM
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Yeah they're true, inb4 copers Edit: looks like I wasn't inb4 the copers lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:24 PM
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are most average men really out here dating women they have nothing in common with, have no similar goals, don't have fun with simply because she's the only one who has come round recently Lol yes absolutely. There are limits to it, no I don't think most average men would date a nazi girl even if they were desperate, but like I said, as long as you're not exceptionally insufferable then yeah, a lot of men would date you even if they have next to nothing in common with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 10:36 AM
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A 5/10 dude doesn't have enough options to be that picky, so unless you are exceptionally insufferable, a dude that level would still put up with that stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 10:19 AM
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This gotta be the best bait I've seen on this sub recently lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 07:03 AM
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I see this happen literally every time I go to the bar/club bro
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 06:45 AM
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you cannot meet all those boxes and not be desired by a good portion of women You can if you have an ugly face, if you're really short, autistic, have micropenis etc etc Your actions can only get you so far if you we're dealt a bad hand genetically. Not saying you're destined to be alone forever but it's definitely going to be an uphill battle and the overwhelming majority of women aren't going to want anything to do with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 04:59 PM
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Rhonda Rousey fought at 135lbs
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 09:15 AM
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Nice bait
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 06:36 AM
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Not true, a guy still has to reach a certain level of looks to be considered
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 04:35 AM
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If you're the type of dude who would have to go through 100 rejections to find one interested I find it hard to believe you get women approaching you at all haha
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 08:56 AM
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Good to know there are some based women on PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 08:50 AM
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Haha yeah I have a feeling the women telling men not to approach on Reddit are saying it out of jealously because they're the ones that don't get approached. Irl I can't think of any women I know who have a problem inherently with men approaching them, atleast in the right circumstances
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 08:40 AM
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Ironic
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:17 AM
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Purely anecdotally I'm gonna have to agree with OP, I do see that all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 02:50 AM
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As a dude who has been both built like an average out of shape dude, and been very fit and jacked, I got significantly more attention from women when built like the latter, it's not even close. Thats my own subjective experience and doesn't speak for everyone but I think if you were to ask dudes who have gone through a fitness transformation if it positively impacted their dating lives, the majority would say that it did assuming they had ok genetics in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 08:37 AM
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Yeah he's not an average man, he's one of the best looking dudes out there, hence why I'm confused by you saying And that's not a "skinny guy" that's Brad fucking Pitt. It's not sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 08:12 AM
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So you think brad pitt wouldn't be considered sexy by most women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 06:57 AM
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Different women obviously have different preferences but lean + muscular (so the gym bro physique) is always going to give you the most broad appeal, in my opinion and personal experience. Built dad bod does appeal to quite a lot of women but you can only really pull off the dad bod look if you're able to grow a thick, fully connected beard. Without the beard most guys with a dad bod are gonna have round, undefined baby faces because of the extra chub they're carrying, which is going to limit th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 05:09 AM
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Brad pitt was something like 6ft 155lbs in fight club. If he's 'wayyyy' more muscular than your preference, are you into dudes who are underweight or something lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:30 AM
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Dude ain't no bodybuilder, he's got muscle but if he leaned down he would probably have a similar physique to the brad pitt example, if not with a bit more mass. He wouldn't be able to step on stage and win any comps that's for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:22 AM
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https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSHoZEOO0-grI-JMwr06V6SdYHnMwzu0Hufcw&usqp=CAU This was a survey asking women to rate their favourite physique out of those presented. Look who has by far the most votes lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:17 AM
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The overwhelming majority of victims of violent crime are male, I seriously don't understand where this idea that men are perfectly safe when alone in public and women are under a constant threat comes from, it's pure delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 11:41 PM
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Me every time I go to kiss my girlfriend: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRyZQtkgqhDwqFoiydxZknDsI1qSINn9W5NuQ&usqp=CAU
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 08:05 PM
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Bruh please tell me this is a troll post hahaha, sometimes it's impossible to tell on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 06:59 PM
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The absolute delusion bahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 04:27 PM
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Bro how are you here on a redpill sub trying to date while being obese. Get fit+jacked, it'll help your dating life massively if your starting point is being obese, I'm sure this isn't really news to you lol. I lost about 100lbs myself and it completely changed my dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 04:35 PM
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Literally the reverse lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:06 AM
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This is bait surely
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 10:41 AM
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Bruh moment
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:21 PM
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180lbs at 5'6 is practically the same BMI as 6'2 240lbs (about 30bmi which is medically obese), aka the size of competition era Arnold Schwarzenegger who was on copious amounts of steroids. You seriously trying to say your personal trainer has the same amount of mass as this https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTPtlJfCoduwYlVmPVfyarBKzsCf5YUgtVbZTlKTU3tHaSvYcipvNT9I00&s=10 without being fat as fuck ? You're delusional bro
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:08 PM
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7/10 face is probably enough to be considered chad level assuming they're 5'11 and have a decent physique. A model teir face is probably 8/10+ so a 7/10 is only slightly below model teir.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:49 PM
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We're just gonna have to agree to disagree I suppose because nothing you have said aligns with any of my personal experiences whatsoever, in fact it's almost the complete opposite, and I assume nothing I have said aligns with your experiences either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:44 PM
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75k a year would get you laughed at by the majority of higher teir woman. 100k is often considered the bare minimum but if you want to be able to compete with other dudes then you need more than that still.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:35 PM
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they might be physically attractive, but that doesn't mean women will be attracted That's some seriously flawed logic haha Anyway as long as a dude is good looking, he would have to have a seriously bad personality for it to make women lose their attraction. Assuming a guy is just normal but slightly introverted, it isn't going to make a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:21 PM
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Yeah it's definitely looks that matter most, I don't even see how that is considered a controversial statement, the majority of people I know irl who know nothing about the redpill or blackpill would definitely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 02:44 PM
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Biggest slayers I personally know are all about average height, so not tall, but I've never seen a guy under like 5'6 have 'no problem' getting women. I know that anecdotal experiences don't necessarily prove anything but stats from dating apps will back up that being really short pretty much makes you unable to date 90-95% of women based on that trait alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 09:06 AM
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This is honestly irrefutable logic lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 10:32 AM
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Clearly you don't know what an analogy is, I'm comparing the logic you're using to the logic racists use when treating an entire group like they're bad people because of a tiny number of bad apples. I'm not trying to play victim, I'm trying to show you that your logic is flawed by comparing it to another situation that uses the same logic that you wouldn't condone. You shouldn't blindly trust everybody, that's just stupid and I never suggested that, you just shouldn't assume the worst of every m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 04:38 PM
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Being a healthy bodyfat is more important than muscle in women because low bf is more aesthetically pleasing than high bf and signals health, men are generally attracted to feminine sexually dimorphic features such as boobs, butt, hips etc. Big muscles are a sexually dimorphic feature of males, so a woman trying to attract men by getting buff is almost like a man trying to attract women by getting breast implants. Yeah I know it's not exactly a fair comparison lol but hopefully you get the gist …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 11:20 AM
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Bigotry is fine as long as it's against men apparently. The argument you're using it basically the same one used to justify racism/segregation against black people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 04:44 AM
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I don't know how you have the heart to say ew to somebody shooting their shot unless they're legitimately harassing you, I've been approached by plenty of women who I don't find attractive before but I don't think I could bring myself to let them down like that ever, that's gonna stick with them for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 09:21 PM
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Cold approaching works all the time, assuming the guy is attractive and it's done in an appropriate place (eg. a bar/ club/party).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 08:59 PM
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So edgy XD XD
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 08:55 PM
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If a dude has the confidence to approach you in a club it's probably because of liquid courage lol, doesn't necessarily mean he's confident like that normally
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 08:40 PM
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Irl that's not the default assumption, that's just a Reddit thing lol. Don't take the stupid bs spouted on mainstream subs to heart bro, these are the people writing those types of comments (NSFW) https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR2RMPnHG0fPJeav8ZHd7yKuJsHF3zbalzItQ&usqp=CAU
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 08:31 PM
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Idk I'm not from the US but I am from a western country and although height is a decent factor of attraction, like I said before all the biggest slayers I know are in the 5'8-5'10 range with good looking faces. I definitely have seen guys who are legitimately short struggle though, regardless of other areas (like below 5'7). Thats just my subjective experience, I know it doesn't prove or disprove anything but I do genuinely believe that height isn't a requirement for most girls assuming you're a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 01:39 PM
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Bro 5'9 isn't tall enough to be a positive but it's not short enough to really hurt you either, most of the biggest slayers I know are around that height, granted they do have good faces. Wear boots or airmaxes and it would take you to almost 6ft anyway. If you truly are good looking and jacked then your height isn't the reason you can't pull.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 12:05 PM
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Shoulder pads lmao c'mon you can't be srs
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 11:30 AM
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Nothing you do is gonna have a massive effect unless you're willing to go down the plastic surgery route, but small things are getting to 10%~ bodyfat, flushing out water retention (can see guides for this online), growing facial hair and keeping it in a style that suits you, tan, good haircut that fits your face, skincare, whiten teeth. I'm don't exactly recommend it for many reasons but if you run a cycle of testosterone or other gear it will grow your jaw/face muscles and make you look more m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 10:53 AM
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Thats a main, arguably the main, pillar of the redpill and blackpill, idk if this is meant to be a troll post or not lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 10:41 AM
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When I saw the ban message I shat brix
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 10:37 AM
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This is very true, probably one of my main issues with the bluepill. I was involved in a lot of sports in high school + college and practically all of jock type dudes I was around would 100% be labelled as incels if they talked/acted the way they do irl on places like reddit or twitter, despite being the biggest slayers I know lmao. Ironically the majority of people who use incel or misogynist as an insult are borderline sexless themselves from what I've observed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 11:04 PM
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https://youtu.be/DAoL1MJtRCo
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 03:37 AM
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If you've ever been to the club before you would realise that that's not a rare occurrence whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 03:18 AM
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This is too true lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 03:59 PM
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Yeah true fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 01:58 AM
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Guys on the right in that pic are regulars on the Looksmax.org website. You're right that they're not incels nor is this to do with trp though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 01:51 AM
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The dudes on the right in that post are well above average though
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 01:45 AM
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Yeah because man and woman could be holding the exact same amount of fat but since men have more muscle and denser bones, the percentage of their total weight which is made up of fat will be lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 10:50 AM
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Assuming you're attractive and not really awkward, those scenarios are fine. If you're not, then do everything in your power to become attractive and charismatic. Don't listen to women on Reddit of all places, let alone a women centric subreddit lmao, the bitterness and delusion along with misandry is off the charts in those places and not in any way corresponding to the overwhelming majority of women in real world. Similar things could be said about this sub tbf.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 06:00 AM
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Interacting with a tweaker who is acting off their head or hanging out on the street in a rough neighbourhood is many orders of magnitude more likely to result in violence than asking out a normal looking guy. Your chances of being murdered for any reason is about 6 in 100,000 according to google, probably more like 4 in 100,000 for women. That's already very low, but of those, how many were relating to a woman asking out a man and him deciding to kill her in response. We're talking numbers here…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 05:04 AM
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If you are genuinely fearful that you're at risk of getting raped and murdered if you go up to a guy you find attractive and ask for his number you have a problem. Fyi go on any official crime statistics website and you will see men are far more likely to be victims of violent crimes than women are, so using your same thought process, I should be deathly afraid of trying to befriend any other men, because they may decide to assualt or kill me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:59 AM
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just approaching men and hoping to god that they’re going to be decent enough not to abuse/rape/kidnap/kill us…? You are mentally ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 02:28 AM
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Plastic surgery is actionable
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:00 PM
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Bro she's clearly obese wtf are u smoking
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 05:09 PM
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20-30 pounds of muscle would require dedication but it's definitely achievable without PEDs for the majority of dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 03:39 PM
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Women practically only get rejected if they're going for dudes well out of their league or if they are obese, both of these things are completely controllable
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:26 AM
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Very good post
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:46 AM
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Lose weight
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:49 AM
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y'all
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:16 PM
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If just one woman refuses to date anyone not in the top 1% then you're right it doesn't really affect anybody except that singular woman, however if a notable portion of women refuse to date any guy who isn't in the top 1% (more realistically irl it's the top 10-20%) then it's obviously going to affect the men in the bottom 99% too because their dating pool is being reduced drastically. On top of this the majority of the women with these standards end up either alone because these top teir dudes…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 07:32 AM
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If you only want somebody in the top 1% in terms of attraction but you are nowhere near that top 1% yourself then it's obviously hypocritical and not going to work out too well for you unless you're incredibly lucky, goes for men and women alike. If you are in that top teir yourself though then it's perfectly reasonable to only date in that same league.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 05:14 AM
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Alpha fucks/ beta bucks
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 01:44 AM
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As far as I'm aware there are no unattractive dudes slaying on tinder through a well crafted profile alone but tailoring your profile would assumingly increase your matches if you do meet the looks threshold. On the other hand, chadfish experiments have shown that good looking guys with terrible profiles can still slay.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:42 AM
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You can show a woman a picture of a man and ask if she'd fuck him based off that. That's pretty much what tinder/any online dating app is based on. Stuff like charisma and status matters too, but whether she wants to fuck you or not is mostly down to if she finds you physically attractive, which is determined by what I said before. Watch out in this sub specifically, there's a lot of gaslighting women who will say otherwise lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:28 AM
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Face, height, physique in that order. It ain't rocket science bro
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:23 AM
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Lol this is too true
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 09:45 AM
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8/10 bait I respect that
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 03:03 PM
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Please be trolling please be trolling please be trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 10:01 AM
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