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so if those men had a wife and kids, how can you say they cant get women?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 09:47 PM
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We dont. It's actually the critics who believe western women are a monolith. According to y'all all western women make great partners and every woman in a third world country only wants you for money. Apparently, any western woman makes a better partner than a woman from a third world country. thats why yall constantly say passport bros couldnt get western women as if they are the gold standard. What makes you better than a woman from thailand or columbia or the phillippines?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 09:39 PM
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What is it about western women that critics of passport bros love so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:32 PM
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When people say the men couldn’t attract, what does that mean exactly? Are you assuming these men have never had a girlfriend or have been with a woman before? What do you call the men who were married with kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:31 PM
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You don’t even need to listen to manosphere podcast. Just go on tik tok, twitter or instagram and just watch women post their videos. They are constantly confirming red pill talking points. The red pill won’t die just on the strength of women needing to tell everyone about her loser ex who cheated on her but still had 3 kids with. Or women making videos talking about marrying the nice guy after a string of toxic exes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 06:13 PM
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It first starts with being honest about yourself and what you’re looking for. If you believe you’re a 10, you’re already off to bad start. What are your actual relationship goals. Have you ever met to the type of guy you’re attracted to before. Do you know what they want. Do you actually ask about relationship history and how many women they been with?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 11:07 AM
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Nope, Ive seen women online and in person put guys into different categories before anything happens. You may not do it, but women overall do this
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:02 PM
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I dont deny that men do this. I was correcting this person who said women dont do this
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:01 PM
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If he is a loser, why are you dating him?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:04 PM
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There's literally women on social media who say that there is a catergorization. why do you think this guy asked the question
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:03 PM
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I’m just giving you an answer to your question. You don’t have to like it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:23 PM
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Part of it is the inconsistency. If women treated every guy like an atm that wouldn’t be a problem. The issue is for women, they treat some men like an ATM but for the men they are attracted too, they don’t have to pay anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:54 AM
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We can also say there’s no benefits of marriage or relationships. We should have sex and live in our own places
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 08:46 PM
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Men don't neg women. That pick-up technique went out of style over a decade ago. It's not taught anymore because you don't need to do it, so anyone who still mentions it has no idea what they are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:36 PM
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The problem with your argument about waiting is that most men arent upfront about what they want yet certain men still get sex quickly while others wait. The idea that every guy a woman slept very early was being truthful is absurd. It still holds that getting sex quickly proves desire if the woman has a history of being inconsistent of when she sleeps with guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 04:59 PM
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Something I've noticed with advice given from women is that they base it of a certain archetype of woman. They imagine a woman is fully independent, well healed, has their own career and money, and has amazing self-awareness with experience. When they give advice, they give it from the perspective of that type of woman. Most women have never been to therapy, they are unhealed, most of them are still in their twenties trying to figure their life out. They more likely to fall for BS, and this is w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 04:50 PM
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Chad basically doesn't exist. The concept of Chad while does technically exist, the manosphere and red pill greatly exaggerate his existence. I played football in college, so i played with men who arguably was in the best shape of their lives, at their most attractive, and maybe 2 guys qualified as Chad. There are very few guys that exist where women want to sleep with a guy based off his appearance alone. There are usually other factors or qualities that he possess that make women want to sleep…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:50 PM
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You must very young. How do you think people met before dating apps? You had to approach women. Everyone didn’t meet their future partner through friends or family
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:45 AM
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Yes. When you have sex with a man, you’re validating that what he did was attractive to you. If it doesn’t match up to what you claim you prefer, he’s not going to change
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 02:01 PM
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They dont have to do to do anything. My original point was that the red pill works, but most guys dont try
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:47 AM
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I dont believe most guys are doing these things
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:46 AM
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Learn how to approach women in real life. Develop a strategy of where to meet women and continue develop your personal skills. Work on being more intelligent, exciting to be around, get in shape, dress better, go take professional photos for online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 08:56 PM
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you shouldn't. My point is the red pill works but some men dont want to make the changes. You can stay how you want to
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 08:51 PM
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A lot of guys are lazy, entitled, and have massive egos. They don’t believe they should have to change for a woman. They think women should just change themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 07:06 PM
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Met my ex wife from cold approach at a bar
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 11:23 PM
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Do whatever you want, but just accept there might be consequences and judgement. You shouldn’t care about what those guys think anyway because you don’t want them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 11:22 PM
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finding a woman to have sex with and finding different consistently to have sex with are two different things. You can have a wife/girlfriend and not be good with women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:21 PM
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Thats called going on a date lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:51 PM
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because you're telling the guy he doesnt deserve to have you change your last name. Ok, i want to be with someone who wants to take my last name
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 05:28 PM
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Its not a broad range of traditions. The tradition in the US is that the woman takes the mans last name. If she doesn't i'll just find some one else
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 05:26 PM
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You just simply wont accept my answer because you don't like it. My argument is that it's tradition in my country that the woman takes the man's last name and it's a sign of disrespect to me if you dont. There are plenty of women who will take my last name so i dont need argue with a woman about it. I'll just go find some one else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:16 PM
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Most men dont think this, but lets say we agree that they do, who is forcing you to date them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:08 PM
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Why? Do you plan to date incels? Why worry about the opinions of men you dont want
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:07 PM
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I'm sorry, is someone forcing you to date men who dont pull their weight? This is obviously a disingenuous post, but im wondering why you're even typing this. You dont have to date these men, so why worry about them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:06 PM
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Well if i was Hispanic, id follow that tradition, but I'm not, so i expect the woman to take my last name.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:02 PM
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Because it's a tradition, it's sign of respect that the woman will follow that tradition. If she doesnt, she doesnt respect me. Just move one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:01 PM
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the tradition in my country is to take the man's last name. If she doesn't want to do it, thats fine. We simply wont be together. We have different views.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 11:07 PM
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I live in the United States, and tradition says the wife changes her last name to the husband. If you dont want to do that, we simply wont be together. Plenty of women who will take my last name.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:44 PM
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That’s what u don’t understand. These women are living with these men before getting married and yet it’s a huge problem in the marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:15 PM
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This argument falls apart because the attractive men arent complaining about getting matches. I have yet to see an attractive guy online or in person say they cant find anyone. Its only unattractive men and most women complaining about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:13 PM
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Shouldnt that be figured out before getting married and having kids? This is the disconnect i see in the chore discussion. How is it women are getting to the alter and having kids without an understanding of how their partner is with chores. You can't convince me all these men were obsessed with chores and cleaning, and then once they got married, they all of a sudden turned into slobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:59 PM
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Where do you get this idea there is a base for cleaning?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:54 PM
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You guys keep using this argument of using your eyes. What y'all think is dirty or something that isa priority, doesnt mean men see it the same way. I think yall assume that once we live with a woman, we're all of sudden going to be magically responsible with chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:53 PM
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Nah, I would just believe she doesn't respect me. Just to be clear, I dont believe should have to take the man's last name. I'm just not dealing with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:45 PM
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I just go by actions, not words
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:49 PM
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No he wasnt because your actions dont reflect that. I don't care what words you use, I'm going by your actions that you admitted too. Hottest guy I ever met doesn't equal making him wait when your past suggests you don't make guys wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:28 PM
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You may have a different definition of safe. Safe guy is the guy who was in your friendzone that maybe you finally give a look at or maybe this guy is not your usual type. You like him for more for his stability than how he looks
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:05 PM
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If thats been you standard since day one, thats not an issue. Is when women are inconsistent that men find an issue
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:01 PM
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You simply werent as attracted to him as you were with the other guys and settled for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:55 PM
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Maybe not the first date, but after about 3 or 4 dates, it needs to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:53 PM
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This isnt true at all. Promiscuous women dont even sleep with every guy they deal with. Percentage of women who actually sleep with any guy they meet is very tiny
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:52 PM
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Her circumstances may change but that doesnt mean you have to believe its legitimate. to me, it will just be an excuse and it shows shes not into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:50 PM
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So she’s willing risk pregnancy and std with men she doesn’t see a future with, but the guy she does has to put in more effort and she has to be cautious with him? How does that make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 05:31 AM
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I’m not saying you can’t change, but that doesn’t mean I can’t hold you to your past decisions in determining if you’re attracted too me
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:33 AM
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If you had one night stands, fwb, or sex without long term commitment, you’re risking pregnancy with someone you’re unsure may stick around. That indicates genuine desire
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:13 AM
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If your sexual past shows you have different standards for different men than yes, you need to risk it for confirmation that you desire them. Kissing and touching don’t carry any risk
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:12 AM
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Unfortunately, women have shown they have different standards for different men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:10 AM
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It depends on your history. If you’re a virgin or only have sex in relationships, than I agree, but if you treated guys differently on when you had sex, you need to have sex as early because desire with no sex doesn’t mean anything
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:09 AM
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Nope, it needs to be sex because of he risk. A woman who just keeps seeing you isnt risking anything, mostly because she isnt spending money on him
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 11:28 PM
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This is wrong, she needs to desire to have sex within the first three dates. Anything else doesnt mean anything. She needs to be willing to risk pregnancy for it to be real
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 11:26 PM
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I’m talking about women as a group. Most women find most men unattractive, so if a woman has desire for me just on appearance, it means something
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:48 PM
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The reason why guys think this is because we have seen women do this with certain guys with our own eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:30 PM
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The disconnect is that you're a woman so most men find you and other women attractive on first sight. The reverse isnt true. Ya'll dont find most men physically attractive, so when you do, it means something.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:25 PM
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Yes, its way more genuine. Theres no thinking about it, no asking your friends, it's just pure raw attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:19 PM
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Because there wouldn't be any woman in their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:15 PM
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Age gap discourse is completely ridiculous. First, 90+ percent of women 18-25 dont even date men that old to begin with. Second, the main reason people find age relationships disgusting is because the guy is old and ugly. If they mostly looked like brad pitt or idris Elba, you wouldnt see nearly the amount of pearl clutching as you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:23 PM
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You definitely are making this up. There arent scores of posts of men complaining about being lonely. Its only women who talk about the male loneliness epidemic. You just made up that tallking point just to dunk on men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:06 PM
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most men arent rapist. It's a small percentage that cause most of the issues. It's like that in all parts of the society. Most crime is caused by a small group of people. Its small group having babies with so many women. Whenever you hear women complain about men, more than likely its the same guys causing harm to women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:24 PM
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Because women require men to be ambitious so you want a man who cares about career. Y’all would dry up if a man said his goal is to be a stay at home dad
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 08:00 PM
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So you're acknowledging he isnt doing it the way you wanted and if it blows up in your face, its fair to say you should have chosen better.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 07:02 PM
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I understand that. Im asking because i see on social media divorced women complain about their spouses lack of help and when I ask why they married or had kids with them despite these issues, they claim the guy "switched up". I call BS and say the red flags were there and the woman ignored them. That's why i ask if the guy is meeting to your specific level that you deem appropriate and if not, why are you dating them because the red flags are there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 06:59 PM
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Is he meeting the chores to your specific standards that you can't claim weaponized incompetence later on
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 06:55 PM
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Has he met the obligations to your standards that you would find it acceptable if you had kids together.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 06:54 PM
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If he isn't neat, and grosses you out, why dont you tell him to stop or leave. Shoudn't this be a red flag?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 06:46 PM
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Do you think the standards he isnt meeting will be a reason to end the relationship down the road.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 06:40 PM
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Women only get told to lower their standards when they complain about their dating life. I had my dating struggles but no one told me to lower my standards because I didn’t complain to anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 05:01 PM
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Men in general need to be better at sex. In fact, one thing I'm really surprised about in the manosphere/red pill space, is that they don't emphasize being good in bed. That would solve alot problems for men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 08:50 PM
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The reason the advice isnt great is because of the lack of awareness that they possess and lack of understanding of the normal male experience. It would be better to listen to women when they complain the men they actually interact with. That tells you what they are really attracted too. This is why I love tik tok so much, because women are constantly posting videos complaining about men and when you talk to them in the comment section, they let you in on their thinking as to why they chose thes…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 07:17 PM
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Let's keep something in mind out about age gap discourse, that if the majority of men dating younger women were considered very attractive, you wouldn't have nearly as much criticism
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 04:35 PM
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Adults can get taken advantage of but that's never brought up in any other part of life when it comes to women. You can make an argument that women taking out students loans are getting taking advantage of, but most women would reject that argument
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 04:33 PM
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Serious question, do people really think there are a ton of young women dating older men? Age gap topics gets a lot of commentary, but I don’t see evidence that there is an abundance of young women dating older men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 07:17 AM
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No, I’m talking the specific country that was referenced in the original post. You said those men should level up to get those women. I’m asking why should they level up for those women? What makes those women so special they should stick to their country
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:25 PM
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Can you answer my question? What makes the women in the country worth leveling up for? What makes them special?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:15 PM
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People get killed all the time in places like Colombia, Its not exclusive to passport bros
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 08:41 PM
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Why cant he say that about the women in his country? There seems to be this logic that women aren't a monolith in their home country, but all women outside their country will do the samething to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 08:40 PM
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Serious question, what makes the worth leveling up for? Why should men level up if they can go somewhere else? Also, should poor people only date poor people?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 08:38 PM
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I think one thing to keep in mind about comments that men make, is that its mostly a response to women coming on the internet to complain about their dating life. Usually when you hear women complain, the issue is they dont qualify for the man they want, but either dont realize it, or wont accept the answer. This also applies to men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 07:01 PM
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It’s not victim blaming, it’s hold people accountable for their decisions. 98% of the time, the people show their red flags and people just ignore them than cry foul when the relationship blows up in their face. I already know the excuses, and don’t believe it. I do not men and women are choir boys than they flip on a dime. Nobody is taught that. People are just making excuses
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 10:32 AM
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Were you forced to be a provider?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 05:08 PM
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That’s cutting off dating options. Most men want as wide of a dating pool as possible
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 03:11 AM
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Why would men cut off dating options? That’s would insane
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 03:08 AM
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This advice applies when the women is already attracted to you and you're the type of guy to get attention from women. Chris Brown or Drake can go to a bar and ignore women have sufficient interest. If you, a regular guy, goes to a bar and ignore women, you won't get any interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 04:53 PM
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I used to assume women were lying or virtue signaling and to be fair some of them are doing that. I think issue is that our perspectives aren't the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 06:24 PM
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Men don’t want to put in more effort than the other guys. If we have to, that means you’re settling for us
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:17 PM
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If I’m splitting the bill on dates or taking you on very low cost dates, than I’m open to waiting longer
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:05 PM
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You don’t have too, but I’m going to use that history as a gage of what your interest level is in me. If you don’t want to have sex after 5 dates, you’re not interested, assuming I’m paying for all the dates
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 12:35 PM
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You have proven you’re willing to have sex without knowing the guy. If you tell me I have to wait a month or two to get to know me, that tells me you don’t like me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 09:37 AM
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This post is nothing but cope. If you think being seen as just a safe option and the guy women settle for, than go ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 09:34 AM
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you said short lived, so you're still acknowledging that women are entertaining them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 02:45 PM
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All of this is correct. The last part is something it took me a long time to learn. I'll also add some of them dont want to admit that being rude or narcissistic is a turn on for them, because it makes them look bad
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 03:32 PM
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It's not a surprise, it's more that its women on social media who keep telling us nonsense. I as a guy can make a video on tik tok or instagram and say that men should achieve a six pack if they want to be more attractive to women. It will be women who will respond that they prefer dad bods and like chubby men. There was situation 3 years ago on tik tok where women tried to tell men that the for the female gaze, men who looked liked a creepy rat was more attractive than Chris Hemsworth or that H…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:52 PM
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This is very true. The incentive structure and social pressure no longer exist, except in the south and parts of the Midwest and Utah. Women don’t feel the pressure to get married at 25 or have 3 kids by the time they are 30. They are holding out longer to get married and don’t feel the need to have 3 or 4 kids
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:43 PM
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How would he have kids if he can’t attract women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 12:55 AM
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The way social media uses the term, it’s one night stands, fwb, situationships
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:41 PM
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The circumstances led to it, but most of those women weren’t looking for it initially.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 06:33 PM
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Of that 12%, how many desired to be a sahd and not because of circumstances
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 06:32 PM
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How would the man get into a relationship if the women don’t want him
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 06:31 PM
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Ok, so if women dont know and haven't been taught, why would men want to be stay at home dad if it means they will struggle in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 05:20 PM
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Ok, and whats the percentage of women attracted to men who want to be sahd? I've never heard a woman say she wants a man who wants to stay home while she works
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 05:14 PM
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Is this a serious question? What's the percentage of women who are attracted to men who want to be stay at home dads? 2 or 3 percent. Why would a guy want to be a stay at home dad when most women aren't attracted to that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 04:55 PM
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Figure out what the criteria is for the man I want, work on that, and try to find the places and people they associate with and be in those places. Stay thin as possible, get lip filer and maybe breast enhancement if necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 07:58 PM
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Before people write this type of post, ask yourself this question, have men seen bad men get women with their own actual eyes. If the answer is yes, dont write your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 08:47 PM
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Why would an insecure woman be a bad partner? If I enjoy her company, she supports me and will be a great mom in future, why would let her insecurities get in the way of a great relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 08:14 AM
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Whether a woman is insecure and unsure of herself doesn't have anything to do with whether she makes a great partner for a guy. You can still be a great wife/mom confidence or no confidence. Woman care about that stuff, but for men, insecurity doesn't really matter to us. There are more important things to worry about
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:31 PM
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There is a large percentage of men pre 2000 who would struggle in todays dating market. More competition, a societal landscape that has completely changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 06:11 PM
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In 2025, women are going on social media telling everyone how oppressive men are. If that is the case, why is any woman going home with a man they just met if you're telling us were dangerous
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 04:28 PM
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I'm liberal but my best guest is they are just shooting their shot at any woman they find attractive and worry about the details later.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 04:25 PM
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Most passport bros were married with kids. It’s not a bunch of 20 years old living in their moms basement and never touched a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 05:47 AM
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The underlying assumption of my point is that the guy is physically attractive, so the woman already has desire for the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 12:58 PM
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Its makes it true because if more men were physically attractive, more women would desire men for sex based on physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 12:28 PM
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its 80% percent of women and resenting men is irrelevant to the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 12:27 PM
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My comment was women having desire for men. Sex is the ultimate way for women to show true desire. I wasn't talking about men having desire for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 12:26 PM
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Yes it does. I literally had a woman look me dead in my eyes and told me it was her goal to have sex with one of my teammates. She didn't know his name or know any other woman who had known him. She thought he was hot and wanted to have sex with him. My female roommate told us she knew she was going to sleep with one of our friends as soon as she saw him. I acknowledge that this doesn't happen to most women, because most men are not physically attractive. There are a small group of men where wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:27 PM
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Because we've seen women act that way with certain men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 10:24 PM
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it works that way for most women when they are actually physically attracted to the guy. The problem is most men arent gq models so they have to do other stuff for women to be turned on by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 10:23 PM
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Because having sex without having to work for it is the ultimate sign of true desire. You're willing to risk pregnancy and stds and this man didn't have to do anything but exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 10:17 PM
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It’s not toxic it’s just them wanting you to be a simp for them. You can ignore that. I’ve never met a guy who was successful with women that followed that version of masculinity
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 07:43 PM
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Serious question why are you assuming that it should be easy to figure out. Social media is littered with post and videos of people getting played constantly and not seeing the signs. Why should a guy be able to see easily if a woman has high interest. I can easily say a woman should see red flags but than i'll get accused of victim blaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:49 PM
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The only reason women are told to give guys chances is because they are complaining about not finding anyone. If women stopped talking about their dating life to people, no one would tell them anything
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 05:57 PM
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Depends on what you define as easy. The more attractive you are, the more you have going for yourself that matters to women, it is easier
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:38 PM
12

Based off how women run to men who hookup with alot of women, this comment isn't true at all. Just virtue signaling nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 07:41 PM
1

So how do people meet each other to date or hookup
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 04:50 PM
1

So if you support divorce for frivolous things, there isn’t any reason to get married because it doesn’t differentiate between marriage and a regular relationship. I’m not against marriage, but I don’t understand why it’s pushed if it will be so easy to get out of, but now you have to untangle yourself and you may end up losing stuff in the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 01:33 PM
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Serious question, if getting divorced is something that should easy and normalized, how’s it different than just having a relationship? Isn’t the whole point of getting married that you’re committed to each other through thick in and thin. Don’t use the abuse response. I’m talking about everything outside of domestic violence or child abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 11:57 AM
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The topic of paternity test is dumb because men can simply get one without letting the woman know. It's laziness on their part and if you're afraid of your woman getting mad at you, then you're just pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 08:37 PM
1

This isn’t true. There are plenty of well adjusted women who still fall for these men. Stop giving them excuses for picking these terrible men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 12:49 AM
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This topic is really dumb. You can get a paternity test without the woman even knowing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:38 PM
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The difference is that men don’t deny this. It’s women who try to claim high ground and moral superiority when it comes to choosing a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 09:35 PM
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This is the problem. This response is just to hand wave away a real issue. There are plenty of normal women, with normal personalities and normal lives who are attracted to these types of men. Women swear that it’s only problematic women who love being with criminals etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 06:37 PM
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Over 70 percent of women are overweight or obese in the United States
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 09:34 AM
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Men aren’t choir boys, so it’s excuse making that you didn’t see any red flags. It’s just simply ignoring them. Y’all are supposed to have this intuition but still don’t use it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:26 PM
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Unfortunately you have women on social media contradicting this narrative that they don’t know they are abusers or bad guys
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 01:26 PM
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This is a cope that a lot of guys tell themselves about the type of women bad boys attract. A lot of these guys attract the type of women that most guys would date and marry. The difference is the bad boys are the first choice
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:47 AM
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I think the issue is that men don’t deny or virtue signal about what they find attractive despite it sounding bad. Too many women tell men what they claim they want in a man, but when they look at who they pick it rarely matches and no, it’s because they switch up and hide their personality. The red flags are obvious and women ignore them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:45 AM
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Those are two different things. Having easy sex is different than having an easy relationship or marriage. All men want to have easy sex. There isn’t any nobility in working hard to get sex. You still have the same issues if you get into a relationship or marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:58 PM
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I think it’s pretty obvious on the debate about age gap what women think. Women would prefer to date someone their own age or a few years older (3-5). They are open to dating older men, but there’s very few older men they would actually find suitable. Most older single men are divorced with kids, fat, receding hairline, making decent but not life changing money, stuck in their ways, a lot of them don’t want to get married again or have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 06:01 PM
1

Q4M: would you rather the woman had genuine desire for you because of your looks or performance in bed?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 08:53 PM
1

I have a better idea. We need an app that shows us what the people actually swipe on. Like the woman I would swipe on, I want to see who she swiped right and left on. That will give you a better idea of the type of guy that does well
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:38 PM
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Do we have any evidence that men are getting the low bodyfat, getting a haircut, getting better/professional pictures done. I haven’t seen women on social media talk about the change they are seeing in men’s profiles over the last few years. In America, I’m not seeing any signs that men have actually improved themselves that they should be doing better but isn’t. The post just comes across as just giving up before even trying
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:33 PM
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No one has used negging or tried to teach that in over 15 years. Even red pill pickup artist will tell you that was a mistake and you don’t need to do that. All this other stuff is just excuse making to not try. If you go on a dating app, that’s proactive behavior. If you get dressed up to go out to a bar or club, that’s proactive behavior. Before dating apps existed, men approached women all the time. I met my ex wife at a bar where I cold approached her. I’ve have sympathy for incels and peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:08 PM
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To your first part, you’re technically correct, but the problem is we tell people not to do things for the opposite sex. Something I think we don’t acknowledge is that a lot of people are happy with their lives outside of having a relationship, so any changes they make would be specifically to attract a partner. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that, but a lot of people object to changing themselves for dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 08:53 PM
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One of the reasons women get told to lower their standards is that they complain about their dating life. If women didn’t go on social media or complain to family and friends about their dating life, they wouldn’t get told to lower their standards. The other reason is that when you hear their dating history, it’s obvious they are picking men for superficial reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 08:48 PM
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He got roasted because people love to virtue signal. Men who have those attributes attract a lot of women. People just don’t like when it’s pointed out
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:33 AM
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Most men’s problems with women they slept with is that they suck in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:48 AM
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What’s screwing up this conversation is the guy in the first picture has ab definition so it’s not even a dad bod. The second picture is just a bad picture despite him being in better shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:43 AM
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When this type of question usually comes up, 90% of the time women are straight up virtue signaling but this is the 10%. The original problem is that the guy on the left actually is in shape. He’s probably 14-16 percent body fat. That’s well within the range of attractiveness. The second issue is the second picture just isn’t a good picture. He’s looks like he’s 5’2, his face is depleted and it looks like a receding hairline. I’m as redpill as the next guy and believe a six pack is attractive to…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:38 AM
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I’m sorry. I simply don’t believe you that you know many men who are neat freaks. Maybe 1 or 2. It’s simply not the case that most men keep their places to level that women find acceptable. You’re just simply making that up
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 06:09 PM
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I see where the disagreement is. I just don’t believe that many men are near freaks than turn into slobs overnight after marriage. The signs were there
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:20 PM
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I’m sorry but you said neat enough. This is what I’m talking about. It wasn’t up to her standards but she still went ahead and married him
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:18 PM
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If men stop doing things when they meet a woman, why are the women marrying them and having kids
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:17 PM
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This might be true, but there also seems to be a disconnect on what women think is clean or the right way to do something and what men think. If you’re dating a guy and you go his apartment, you see what his level of cleanliness is. If it doesn’t meet your standard, why would you date him
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:43 AM
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This conversation is pointless. I think I saw where the percentage of women in relationships with men 10 years older is 7%
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 03:41 AM
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He’s kind of different. The criticism he gets is because he only dates women under 25. If he stayed in the 25-28 age range, doubt most women will care
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 10:55 PM
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I always see this comment but I never know what people are talking about. What power does the does the old guy have?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 10:54 PM
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I actually agree with this. I rarely see an attractive man get called out for an age gap relationship. An example is the actor chris Evan’s. He started dating his current wife when she was 23. He’s 16 or 17 years older. Never got called out. I follow a finance bro on tik tok. He’s 17 years older than his wife. They started dating when she was 21. He’s a very attractive guy. Looks like he’s in his early thirties. No criticisms. He has two children with his wife. The women love him in the comment …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 10:52 PM
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What men are saying is that alot women don’t qualify for what they are looking for and need to be reevaluate their standards
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 12:48 AM
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Should we change the marriage vows or should they exist? Should marriage be til death do us part?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 12:34 AM
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The problem with this post is that you’re conflating two different types of guys. The guys complaining about women dating bad boys aren’t the same guys who date horrible women. The first group are guys who can’t get women. The second group are the ones who only think with their dick
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 10:55 AM
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Is there any statistical evidence that shows that age gap relationships exist in high numbers, in first world countries? This topic gets a lot of ink, but I have hard time believing there is a plethora of 18-22 year old women dating men in their 40’s and 50’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 12:56 PM
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Yes. Men have been saying this. Money doesn’t mean you’re a good partner to women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 10:00 AM
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If you're talking about just hooking up, short term relationships or even the beginning of the relationship than I agree. In the long run, it will eventually matter especially if you want kids
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 12:22 AM
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I never understood why men care about women wanting a financial equal. It's not like women making alot of money means they are better partners. There's plenty of quality women who dont make a lot of money who would make great girlfriends/wives
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 12:19 AM
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So women who are stay at home moms are bang maids? You think there is a limited supply of women who want to be a stay at home mom? I'd love to see the research on that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 12:13 AM
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That was big giant word salad to say shes leaving because shes outearning him
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 12:06 AM
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You keep bringing up the differences in resources. I’m trying to understand your exact position. Do you have an issue with men dating women if there is a huge difference in resources
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 01:31 PM
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So are women supposed to have the same amount of resources as the person they date? If that’s the case, it’s just as problematic if Leo dates a 45 year old school teacher. They will still have a massive difference in resources
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 10:36 AM
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They are models, not poor women. What resources are they lacking to walk away?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 05:40 AM
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I’m as red pilled as the next guy but I will say the red pill exaggerates the percentage of families that had the traditional set up. I went to very prestigious elementary and high schools and it was common for upper middle class white women to work. I’m an 80’s and 90’s person
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 12:05 PM
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It doesn’t happen anywhere close to how much women claim that it happens. Maybe 2-5 percent of men have the ability to be choir boys with no red flags, than pull a 180
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 11:00 PM
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Admitting fault without blaming someone or something else. If you’re a single mom who had a baby with a deadbeat. Admit that you chose him and that you chose to ignore the red flags instead of saying he switched up. If you divorced a guy, admit that you ignored the signs before marrying him and having kids. He didn’t switch up, it wasn’t weaponized incompetence, you simply didn’t care about the red flags and married him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 07:52 PM
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Sure. If you don’t need men for survival and don’t care to form families, you could have more women in positions of power
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 10:53 AM
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Whats the percentage of women that you think would desire a house husband. I'm not talking women who would be ok with it because the circumstances make it that its probably the best solution. I'm asking what percentage of women do you think desire to have a husband and they be the providers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 12:36 AM
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I meant to keep it strictly to the US because thats where I'm from.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 12:32 AM
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I see women advocate for matriarchal societies on my social media pages
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 12:31 AM
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An example would be to lower the standard to convict a man of g(rape). Lower the standard for charging men for DV. Have longer jail sentences for DV, assault, missing child support. Lower the cost of child care. Make if illegal for men 28 and above to date women 25 and below. Just some off the top of my head
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 12:30 AM
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United States. What is stopping women from voting?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 12:25 AM
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My post isn't about the fertility crisis, i was just pointing it out that women are becoming more childless
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 12:24 AM
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I agree that men would push back, but with more and more men not participating in getting educated and dropping out of the workforce, plus women being outvoting men in elections, i'm curious if the pushback would be effective
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 12:23 AM
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Women arent are forgoing marriage and having kids. One of things ive heard women say is that marriage and kids hold women back from achieving what they are truly capable of. With more and more women choosing to remain single and childless i'm one wondering if this is a great time for women use that energy to create change into a matriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 12:20 AM
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Not based of the current decline of the fertility rate. In the next two decades, it will be more women without kids than with kids. I'm not arguing whether thats a good thing or not, i'm just wondering if this is perfect time for women to take steps to change society around with being burdened with marriage and kids
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 12:18 AM
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When I say they aren't having kids and getting married, what I mean is that the marriage rate is at the lowest it's ever been and the fertility rate is under 2.1 and continues to decline
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 12:15 AM
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If you're happily married, why not do stuff with your husband instead of coming on to forums
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 06:54 PM
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Are they 10/10 in the things that men actually care about, not what you believe they should care about
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:05 PM
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Why are you asking men? That’s up to women to decide.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:02 PM
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That’s part of it. The other thing is men don’t have a lot of requirements or needs. Be pretty, nice, loyal, sweet. Most women can do that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 08:21 PM
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It’s about not being just seen as the safe guy and having to put in more effort than a guy who is just seen as hookup material
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 05:52 AM
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Did you make him wait longer to have sex with than your hookups? Did you require more effort and investment?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 05:50 AM
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This whole thing sounds like a massive cope. If you don’t want to be husband material, than work on doing the things to not be called husband material.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 05:46 AM
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The reason a lot of men don’t follow it is because it’s just simple talking points that women don’t mean. I promise you that men who aren’t complaining about women aren’t doing whatever this list of stuff that women claim they should do
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:29 PM
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Because having an higher education doesn’t really add any value. Society expects men to provide not women, so her being ambitious is great but it’s lower on this list of priorities. Also, that limits the options available also
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 12:42 PM
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This is a lie because statistically, men make more money than women. Just because women are more educated, it’s not translating into women making more money
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 02:48 PM
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I don’t disagree. I was just making the point that money doesn’t factor in attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 02:46 PM
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Well she should have vetted correctly and not be divorcing the guy she married. Before you respond, I don’t believe in the idea the guy switches up. The woman saw the red flags and didn’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 02:17 AM
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A woman’s career won’t have any affect on whether or not she is attractive. Men aren’t factoring in divorce if she will be a stay at home mom or make significantly less. We’re assuming she will be in the marriage until one of us passes away. The divorce laws shouldn’t exist to allow someone to take half even if they are stay at home moms
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 12:35 AM
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So if I cheated and abused my past 3 partners, that doesn’t mean anything
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 10:59 AM
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In my experience, the more comfortable a woman feels around you, the more they are willing to share. I've had women tell me their sexual history without even asking for it. Eventually, the truth will come out, it just a matter of how far along into the relationship that its revealed
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 09:03 PM
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Words dont mean anything. It's your actions or lack of actions
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 08:59 PM
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Because those are your actions and they can tell you about the future of the relationship. You're trying to pretend that what someone did before you met them means nothing. Thats insane
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 08:56 PM
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you're willing to risk pregnancy and stds with a guy you don't see a future with, but the husband material guy has to prove himself before you're willing to risk it with him. yea, that sounds like a great deal lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 08:52 PM
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Nah, it just means she doesn't see you as physically attractive and see you as just a safe option. Men, don't let these people gaslight you into accepting BS treatment
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 08:46 PM
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Hook ups and something casual are still the samething, not a committed relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 08:34 PM
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Online dating is fine. What’s happened is people simply overestimated their looks and value and dating apps are a truth serum
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 01:03 PM
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Dawg, that is wasting time, energy and money. Chads aren’t concerned with teaching women lessons. Just go sleep around. These women aren’t going to change because you did them dirty.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 12:56 PM
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I don’t think you understand the conversation. Did you have sex with other men and require them to court you and spoil you, or you slept with them after meeting them one time
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 12:52 PM
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This is where people lose me. From what I see, most of the time when a woman enters into a casual relationship it’s because she feels that’s the best way to get into a relationship with a guy. She’d rather go on dates and make him wait, but for this guy, she feels she needs to give it up quicker. I do know that fwb relationships exist, and I know one night stands exist. I just don’t believe most women are entering into casual relationships expecting them to end
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 12:51 PM
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Nope. My parents were married until my dad died of a heart attack
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 12:44 PM
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Husband material guys are guys who have to put in effort and time before getting sex. If you start of casual, you didn’t have to put in effort
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 12:56 PM
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Your post makes it seem like the casual sex is a one time thing. What you think situationships and fwb are? It’s having sex repeatedly with someone
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 12:52 PM
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The argument isn’t over whether not getting sex. The argument is over the required investment. Both guys are having sex, but one is required to do more to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 12:50 PM
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She thinks it isn’t working harder if you have to build attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 12:48 PM
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This is why it’s an insult to be called husband material. Most women in casual relationships want to be in real relationships with the guys they are having sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:48 AM
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Wait didn’t you just say that women aren’t making husband material work harder. Why does the husband guy need to take you on multiple dates to build sexual attraction. The casual guy doesn’t need to do that. You’re contradicting your original post
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:46 AM
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The husband material guy would probably like to have sex with you without putting in effort also.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:35 AM
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Then this topic doesn’t apply because you had sex the first time you met up. Also, the issue isn’t getting sex. Topic is the requirements to get the sex. Husband material guys have to put in effort to get sex. Casual guys don’t. Being called husband material is an insult
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:34 AM
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I meant risk without investment. The casual doesn’t need to do anything to have sex with you. I guess just be attractive. Your boyfriend has to invest before you’re willing to have sex with him. That’s telling us who you find more attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:24 AM
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I think this is the heart of the disagreement. From a men’s perspective, there is a belief that most women participate in casual sex and you claim a lot don’t participate. This wouldn’t be a topic if a small percentage of women moved like this, but this happens a lot more than you probably imagine
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:22 AM
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I think probably 75-80 percent of women who enter into casual sex relationships with a guy really want an actual relationship and see this as the best way to get it. I agree the rest are strictly an arrangement that you know will end at some point. You’re willing to risk pregnancy and STDs with a guy you don’t see a future with, and won’t make him put any effort in to getting sex, but husband material guy has to spend time, money and energy. Yes, you find the casual guy more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:16 AM
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The issue is timing and the investment with the men you have sex with. If your boyfriend needed to take you on multiple dates before he has sex with you, ideally the guy you just have casual sex should require the same investment. If not, you’re basically telling the boyfriend you’re not as attractive as the guy you have casual sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:06 AM
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This entire post rest on the idea that most women need to get know a man before having sex. This isn’t true. Most women have had casual sex, so everything you wrote isn’t true at all
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:03 AM
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I see the disconnect, yall think a woman having leverage over the guy means it’s better for the men. Thats insane. I see why the redpill exist now
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:34 PM
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Your response from how it affects the woman. I’m talking about from the man’s point of view
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 11:45 AM
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I never grew up with that thought process of caring about a woman’s accomplishments
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:52 PM
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This is a disingenuous comment because you assume both that a foreign woman can’t like me and that a woman in your country can’t fake like you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 02:47 PM
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Oh gawd. We got these psuedo intellectuals. I'll bet six months salary that I were to listen to every conversation with your partner, 90% of it would be the same as two people with high school degrees. I'm college educated and was married to a woman with a master's in engineering. She read books like crazy and most of our down we watched trash tv and sports and laughed. Yall really think too highly of yourselves
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 11:40 AM
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What would you rate your girlfriend’s in term of physical attractiveness?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 01:17 PM
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This is what annoys me about the weight conversation. It’s one thing to gain 10-20 pounds after multiple kids, but gaining 80lbs and telling the guy he should be happy about is insane. I will say as a man, if you care about her weight, you need to be living the same lifestyle that promotes being thin, or proving lebron James type value to the relationship to justify getting upset at the weight gain
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:05 PM
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You are absolutely right that wives don’t owe husbands their weight. The issue is that women have a problem when men reciprocate with something they don’t owe women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:01 PM
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I guess when I meant pretend. I mean there is no way a guy doesn't expose himself eventually before marriage and kids. If they fool you, you simply didnt care about that issue enough
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 02:52 PM
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Men dont dupe women by pretending. Thats just the excuse women make for ignoring the red flags that were obviously there. You can go to a guys house/apartment and see how he lives. Men dont go from neat freaks to not caring about chores overnight and no i don't believe you if you claim to know men who did that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 02:41 PM
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You're a woman so obviously you're going to call it manipulation. I think it's something we need to teach boys because its better for society. Fewer men will go to strip clubs, get escorts, sign up for onlyfans. They can learn how to handle rejection and its safer for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 02:38 PM
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The other issue is people entering into relationships with people who already show they don’t care about chores. You have tons of women who date men who don’t keep their house/apartment clean or up to the standards they would like, than get upset when they have kids and isn’t more helpful
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 01:46 PM
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It’s very important for boys to learn how to become an fboy. Fboys get the best relationships out of women. Those relationships are on their terms, not the woman’s
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 01:42 PM
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It’s actually a skill. Being able to approach women, have a conversation, get her number in a few minutes is very a skill you can learn
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 01:39 PM
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If the obesity rate was 5% in America, dating would be so much easier. The onlyfans, strip clubs, sugar dating wouldn’t be nearly as big and there would less competition and less entitlement
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 12:14 AM
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It comes from dating app data
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 11:09 AM
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The redpill has helped me also. I wish I would have discovered it 10 years earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 08:55 PM
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Yes, either date men who want you/on your level or stay out of the dating game.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 04:37 PM
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Thank god he’s going to be tall so that will save him. If he was only going to be 5’8 or 5’9 he would screwed
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 11:10 AM
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Yea, your son is screwed. I hope he ends up good looking and/or being popular because you just gave him the typical useless advice we give teenage boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 09:19 PM
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Yes, learn how to seduce women. I’m not sure what the benefit of waiting for women to try to get the guys they wanted than having to settle for the guy they chose
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 09:16 PM
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you're not understanding my point. Telling men to pay on first dates and tip generously doesn't do anything for them. Dads need to teach their sons how to be the guy that women will go over to their house/apartment at 2 am. Thats the guy who women really want. Especially when they are younger. Telling them to just to be themselves and wait for the right one will just send them down the repill/manosphere path quicker these days
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:13 PM
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This is what I'm talking about. How does that increase your chances of attracting the woman on the date? There are guys who dont have to take women out on dates. I'd want my dad to teach me how to be that guy, not this nonsense that your dad taught you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 03:41 PM
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it depends on what they tell you how to conduct the dates. If its simply hold doors open and bring flowers, then its pointless
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 03:29 PM
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If you have sons, for the love of if he’s struggling with dating, never tell him just to be himself. That is the absolute worst advice to tell a young man. He’s dating, 15-25 year olds. He will need advice on how to navigate those women. Also, it’s terrible if you tell him just to wait until women “mature”. That’s a terrible deal. If you have a daughter. Don’t give her Disney fairytales. If she wants a hot guy, he will have options and no, she’s not so special he’ll choose her over another girl.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:33 AM
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I’m red pill, and I’m starting to get annoyed with the dna topic. You don’t even need to tell your girlfriend/wife. It seems they are upset that they can’t ask without worrying if the woman will get upset
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 02:54 AM
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That’s the complete opposite of what this post is talking about. In general, women mostly pursue men for relationships, so I theory who they have sex with should match the type of guy they want, but they don’t. Men in general are more willing to look for just sex, so that’s not going to match what they look for in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 02:50 AM
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You must have a different social media than I do, because I go on instagram and tik tok and can watch a ton of videos of women crying about their situation ships and fwb
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 11:28 PM
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Not really, because we acknowledge that the woman we chase for sex will not be the same we chase for relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 11:26 PM
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The only reason a double standard exist is because women don’t hold it against men if they have a high body count. Men have no reason not to stop looking at a woman’s body count as a measure of it she’s a candidate for a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 11:20 PM
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The problem is you don’t have any alternative. Your only response is just be yourself and get a better personality, but that’s just vague nonsense and also being disingenuous. You also seem to think that everything is common knowledge when guys explain what they are taught when it comes to the redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 09:03 PM
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You seem to make assumptions that redpill guys didn’t do things the way you described. I think assume redpill guys just came out the womb wanting to be redpill
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:39 PM
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Sure, if its average vs average and model vs model. This conversation is model with little personality vs average guy who has some type of game. Is it possible for an average guy with game to beat out a model with no personality, yes, it is. I think the redpill/blackpill guys will argue the average guy has to put in more effort to get the win. 99% percent of guys are not born with Behavorial swag. It is something you have to learn and put effort into practicing and let's be honest, most guys are…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:08 PM
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The problem with this post is that you're discounting that the better looking you are, the more willing a woman allows for a man's personality to suck and would have to say something so crazy that a woman wouldn't want to give him a chance. I'm an average looking guy. I've gone on dates and have done everything right and couldn't even get a kiss. I've gone on dates where as long as I didn't say something deranged, i was going to hook up with her that night.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 06:41 PM
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If women want to have different standards when it comes to the timing of having sex with a guy, that’s their right. As a guy, I think you are correct to assume she sees you differently if she makes you wait, and it’s definitely an insult if she sees you as husband material
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 08:42 PM
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because women love virtue signaling and appearing morally superior. They only find a small percentage of men attractive but if they acknowledge that, they look worse than men who they call superficial
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:15 PM
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If you're meeting guys in real life, why are you on a dating app? I thought women preferred to meet organically?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:11 PM
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The issue is that she didn't have this thought process in her 20's. The goal for men is to avoid women who "matured", which is just code for I couldn't get the guys I really wanted to act the way I wanted them too and experienced trauma, so i'll settle for this guy I wouldn't have given a chance to when I was younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:10 PM
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Most men are lazy to put in the work and they are delusional. They also have an ego they can't let go of and they feel entitled to certain women just because they are men. They also can't handle that society has changed and that physical appearance matters more and they cling to fairytale nonsense that women should just love us for our mediocre personalities and lives. The incentive structure has changed and women no longer have a desire for marriage and kids. Alot more women prefer the single l…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 02:21 PM
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Something I think we seem to forget is that its not just americans on these forums. There are people from other countries where it is normal to have age gaps. I know passport bros is unpopular in this forum but i follow a few passport bros on tik tok and youtube. These guys are married with children. All have significant age gaps. Its really americans and probably canadians who have the biggest issues with it. Even in Mexico, age gaps are normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:21 PM
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They still are women and I don’t believe that every guy who is struggling with women are going some super intelligent mature woman. Your entire post is just cope. Most of yall are ugly, with no charm, and scared to approach women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 11:02 AM
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There are plenty of men with multiple baby mamas who have iq of salad dressing. The idea that it’s because aren’t interested is not reality. It’s most likely the guys aren’t physically attractive, don’t put in effort in their online profiles and approach enough women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:51 AM
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People like to romanticize the old days, but I've talked to my older aunts and uncles and grandparents and the reality is, it wasn't as pure was a lot of people would like to believe
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 09:12 PM
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Can we please stop this nonsense of pretending that we don't do things to attract the opposite (or same) sex. I'm sorry, but you can't convince me that men would work nearly as hard if desire for women werent a major part of the equation. Being health is obviously important for yourself, but we should be honest about why you're doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 06:17 PM
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You make the mistake of assuming the broke guys aren’t getting the same benefits as the guy who has to wine and dine the woman. I’ve seen women let broke men borrow their car, they cook, clean, and pay for dates. They also give broke men multiple kids
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 12:02 AM
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I’m as much of a supporter of the redpill as a lot of guys are in this forum and even I know that the 666 is not something that women even think about. As delusional as women can be about superficial stuff, even they don’t expect men to have a six pack or have 6 inches.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 07:18 PM
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Why are you mentioning negging. I never mentioned that all in my comments
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 11:16 AM
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No one has ever said there was a one size fits all. The point I'm saying is that if I were to approach 100 women with the same line, i'm not going to get 100 different reactions. I'll probably get 70 rejections, and the 30 that responded with probably react the same way. Men and women aren't very different in how they respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:45 PM
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There are actionable steps. You can use different stories to tell, different places to take her, different responses to objections, etc. Most guys don't interact with that many women so they don't think to try different stuff to see what works and what doesn't
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:37 PM
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this isn't as true as people want to believe. While technically everyone is different, alot of people respond to the same thing. Most guys respond to big boobs and a tiny waist. Most women respond to the same attraction triggers regardless of who they are. Thats why you have pickup artists who tend to know what to say or what to do in certain situations because women react the same way regardless of race, age, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:31 PM
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It would be dumb to tell women that you do this, but it does help with tracking your success rate and knowing what changes you need to make
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:26 PM
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This isn't completely correct. This could mean they see you as 'husband" material which isn't great but isn't friendzoning either. What it does mean is that she doesn't have genuine desire for you and wouldn't be an FWB or one night stand with you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:22 PM
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First, I never said they chased. I said they picked them. Men should first go to the fboys/addicts/abusers because they typically are the ones who have the most success with women. I don't care to hear from a guy who met his girlfriend in college because they were part of a friend group because you typically can't replicate that. You need to ask guys who have success with multiple women in different situations. Most women have dealt with a toxic guy or two, and I know your response is going to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:59 PM
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This isn't completely accurate. You need to ask women who are self-aware on why they pick those losers, because those losers who they pick usually are very successful with women. Asking a woman who "matured" is a no no because most women haven't matured so you'll end up getting nice guy advice. Ideally, you want advice from an fboy/loser or a self-aware woman who understands what those losers possess or did that made them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:59 PM
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This comment shows we have to be careful about the words we use. It's probably never a good idea to ask advice from a woman on how to get a woman, but once you're in a relationship, its probably a good idea to ask a woman's advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:52 PM
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As long as she’s willing to accept my lifestyle and be a great stay at home mom/wife, than yes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 10:03 AM
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I'm not mad at apps. I'm just explaining the realty of the dating apps. You can have filters all you want, but women are still going to swipe right on a small percentage of men who will have their pick of the litter and treat women accordingly because you don't have enough attractive men to choose from. I see women get mad on social media from the men who swipe right on them. They are upset because ugly men are picking them. There's no way to improve the app unless you come to terms with the fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 02:56 PM
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You still have the issue of there being pictures. Women aren’t going to match with men who they don’t find attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 11:35 PM
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But aren’t going to match with someone who you aren’t physically attracted too. The issue that most men aren’t attractive to most women, so until that fact changes, the dating apps will suck for everyone. The algorithm or the app set up doesn’t matter
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 11:34 PM
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And you know what, it was the physical appearance that determines whether you message someone who tried to match you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:14 PM
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The owner of the apps don’t have anything to do with it. The apps are based on physical appearance. Most women find most men unattractive so most women eventually get off the apps because they don’t like the selection Most men don’t put any effort into their appearance and some are just too short. Unless men can grow taller and work on getting in better shape, they will struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:48 PM
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This is cope. Being successful at a hobby or lifting doesn't do anything to help with the interactions with women. You still have to know what to say, how to carry yourself, move the interaction forward etc. Being good at a hobby does none of that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 08:07 PM
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Welcome to the real world. Men have always been disposable. You were lied to if you believe you thought you were valuable for just existing
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 08:02 PM
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People will continue to get married, but marriage rates and fertility rates will continue to decline as women opt out of marriage and having kids. Men need to look to different countries where women still value family
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 07:46 PM
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Women in the west don’t care about marriage or having kids. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that. We just need to accept that times are different
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:14 PM
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Men and women need to start living in reality instead some world they wish existed. We simply don’t need each other and don’t have any incentive to form relationships Men need to understand that society has changed and women have changed with it. Women in the west no longer care about marriage and having kids. We need to expand our pool of women and look to different countries where the women still value family. The women need to understand that because they don’t need men anymore, so you only f…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 04:20 PM
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It hasn’t changed meaning. Y’all just using it differently to hate on people you don’t like
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 03:55 PM
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That’s not the definition of an incel. Why are yall trying to change definitions
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 03:54 PM
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This doesn’t make sense. He’s the richest man in the country. There are plenty of women who want to have his kids without him paying for it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 03:53 PM
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You don’t know that. You’re just assuming that people your own age have the same lives
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:40 PM
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Who said I waited. I could be divorced. I don’t believe in soulmates. I think they are multiple people who could be what you’re looking for. Why do you assume your soulmate is the same age as you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 01:56 PM
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Most 40 year olds do, so it limits the pool of available women. I think it’s possible that you can find younger women who you can relate to and have the same goals and have what you’re looking for. Most 40 year olds have been in toxic relationships, have kids, etc. what is the upside to dating them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 01:22 PM
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You’re just making assumptions that you’re at the same stage of life. I’m 40 and no kids. If I dated a 40 year old woman with 2 kids, are we at the same stage of life? Or how about I’m from city and she’s born in the suburbs. You think we had the same life?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 11:53 AM
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The problem with this argument is there is an assumption that the best partner is someone your own age. It makes more sense for men to date younger. Better chance at having kids, the woman most likely is more attractive. She hasn’t had kids, or experience toxic relationships. Nobody can explain to me why dating someone your own age is supposed to be the preference
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:32 AM
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Men want to to know you physically desire them like a hookup. Being called boyfriend material is an insult
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:46 PM
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Words don’t matter. It’s actions
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:45 PM
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No they aren’t. You’re not risking pregnancy for a guy you don’t find hot
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:39 PM
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No, it’s who is more attractive and desirable
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:38 PM
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No you aren’t. You’re willing to risk STDs and pregnancy for you a guy you’re not willing to settle down with. You’re more attracted to the hookup guy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:38 PM
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But you still were willing to have sex with him. That makes him more desirable than the boyfriend material guy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:36 PM
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That’s not what the issue is. It’s about genuine desire. The guy you just see as a hook up is more desirable than the boyfriend material guy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:32 PM
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So you put guys into different categories. You willing had sex with men who you knew weren’t relationship mat
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:28 PM
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If you made certain guys wait longer, it’s a thing. Unless every guy you sex with had the same exact timeline, you put guys in different categories
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:26 PM
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No. The same doesn’t apply for women. Men will take sex when they can get it. We’re not going to make women work for it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:23 PM
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That doesn’t mean the women who want hookups want it those men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:58 AM
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It varies. My point is proven.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:56 AM
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Doesn’t matter if you’re using protection. You’re still taking the risk. You don’t risk it for an ugly guy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:56 AM
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It depends on the investment you require. Hookups don’t require investment from the guy to get sex. The relationship guy has to spend money and time and has to wait longer to have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:17 AM
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So that means every guy you slept with had to wait a month or two?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:16 AM
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That’s easy to explain. You’re willing to risk pregnancy and STDs with a guy you don’t plan to be with long term. He’s got to very attractive for you to risk that. The relationship guy is the guy you make wait and have to prove himself and don’t want to risk it. You clearly don’t find as attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:15 AM
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Yes you do, otherwise you wouldn’t reject them. Rejecting a guy is telling they aren’t good enough for you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:09 AM
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The problem with this logic is that as a woman you still get plenty of male attention. Most men get no attention at all
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:06 AM
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How is better if you’re getting the same result
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:02 AM
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Because both situations are the same. If you’re going there with a purpose, you’re going to be In tune with what you like and don’t like
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 10:07 PM
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A lot of redpill frustration comes from being told the wrong information on how to attract women. You now have to unlearn bad habits and learn the correct way, and that’s a lot to deal with
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 08:19 PM
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Being ok with it and being attracted to men who desire it are two different things
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 10:51 PM
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Notice how you said support and not I’m attracted to men who desire to be stay at home dads and want women to provide for them
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:51 AM
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I said women aren’t attracted to men who want to be stay at home dads. Being a devoted dad and wanting to be a stay at home dad are two different things
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 10:01 PM
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It would dumb because women aren’t attracted to men like that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 10:00 PM
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Again, only a very tiny minority of women would find men who want to be stay at home dads attractive. Women are attracted to men with ambition and who can provide. This isn't even debatable
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 09:48 PM
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No they wouldn't. You will never convince me that more women would find a man who wants to be a trad husband attractive if men took it seriously. Women are more likely to divorce their husband when they start to outearn their husband. The idea that women would find it attractive if men desired to be a stay at home dad is laughable. At best, 5% of women would be attracted to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 09:28 PM
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Maybe you, but most women don’t, so it would dumb for men to want to be stay at home dads
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:04 PM
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Men aren’t trying to be stay at home dads because of their legacy. Let’s be honest, how many women do you hear that say they want and are attracted to men who want to be stay at home dads
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:41 PM
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Just because you're stay at home dad doesn't mean that was your goal. The situation probably existed to where it made sense for them to be stay at home dads. My comment was that women are turned off men who desire to be stay at home dads.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:31 PM
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It's very simply, 95% of women don't want a stay at home husband. They prefer the man to work. I get you're trying to be sarcastic, but the truth is, most women would be turned off if a man desired to be a stay at home husband and dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:08 PM
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These age gap topics never make sense. Most people date within a 3-5 year age difference. 10 year+ age gaps are a minority of the population and 15 year + are rare. I think you guys are lumping in sugar babies and calling that dating
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:05 PM
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Are you willing to cook, clean, take care of the family, be loyal, supportive?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 09:44 PM
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The bar is in hell only for attractive men. What is so special about western women that men should need to improve? If women wanted to overseas to find a husband, I would support it. I dont believe I’m better than men overseas
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 09:40 PM
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Women don’t want to have kids anymore so there is less of a reason to get married. I’ve never understood people who wanted to get married but not have kids
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 12:25 PM
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I think a lot of guys underestimate how draining it is to deal with multiple women. I had a best friend who crushed it with women and would get frustrated from energy he had to give dealing with logistics and all the emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 03:41 PM
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Yea, they always use famous rich men who already have access to women as some example
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 08:14 PM
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One of the weird things about this is I see so many women argue with men who try to coach guys to get in the gym to be more attractive. Like they so badly want to show that you can fat and attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 04:23 PM
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You don’t need to be 6 feet, or make 100k to attractive good looking women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 04:15 PM
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You can reject anyone for any reason, the problem is those same people complaining about dating being tough and not finding a relationship. It’s fine to be picky, just don’t come on the internet to complain about it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:48 PM
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What if you over heard it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 12:11 AM
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What does that actually mean. What were the eyes like
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 10:09 AM
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We’re supposed to listen to women, but somehow we’re supposed to just infer from their advice without details. Than they get upset when you get advice from men who have success because you get actual detailed advice
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 10:08 AM
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She can’t give you an answer. No woman can. We’re supposed to listen to women when it comes to advice, but when ask for specifics or examples, it’s crickets
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 01:45 AM
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Are you currently married to a normal sized man?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 10:32 PM
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That’s a different objective. When you approach, you either get number or you dont
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 12:52 PM
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That’s not winning, that’s called cope. If you don’t get her number and get the outcome you want, you didn’t win anything
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 04:20 AM
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This debate is all about ego. Any guy with a child can order a paternity test anytime they want without telling the mom. The men whining about this sound like women. You want to be able to ask for a paternity test without the woman being upset. That’s what this is mostly about
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 01:18 PM
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Dating apps will always be based off physical appearance. There’s no app that you can create that will get around this
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 09:39 PM
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Just get the dna test done in secret. Why are you so concerned with letting the woman know you're getting a DNA test done. That sounds like you care more about your ego
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 07:23 PM
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That only works if you also saw him as a hookup also, and didn't make him wait for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:05 AM
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Doesn't matter. The fact you dated them because they were hot proves you desired them at some point
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:58 AM
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Its not so much men want to be pumped and dumped, but how quickly we get sex is the only real way we can tell how much you actually desire us. Your words don't mean anything. its actions
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:48 AM
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The best way I think men should explain it is risk. When women have sex with men, they are risking getting pregnant. Even though condoms exist, and other types of birth control, it's still a risk. When a woman says she wants to take it slow with you, she's telling you, you aren't worth the risk and that you need to prove yourself. She was willing to risk pregnancy with their one night stands and FWB. That is raw desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:44 AM
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In perfect world, people shoukd be honest, but at this point, I’d say just lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 09:12 PM
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I really never understand why age gap topics get discussed. Only like 2-5 percent of young women engage in age gap relationships. Seriously, I live in a major US city and I rarely see large age gap relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:06 AM
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The obvious reason these people complain is because they are seeing what comes with being with a highly desirable partners. You want a young attractive woman, here are all the downsides. You want a 6’2 chad with tattoos and muscles, here are the downsides. These people realize they aren’t the type of people that their partner probably goes for.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 02:07 PM
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You’re judging you self worth based on the location of women you’re choosing from. Go somewhere else where your value is higher
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:39 AM
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Yes, it is
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 03:08 AM
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There’s no perfect solution. The truth is you have to try everything. Dating apps, cold approach, speed dating, friends and family, school, maybe passport. For most men, they need to 2 or 3 ways
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 09:15 PM
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You’re getting hung up on the 60k. My point is, you can make 60k or 600k, it depends on the preference of the type of men you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 01:54 AM
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That’s up for women to decide
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 07:55 PM
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So what? If men making over 60k aren’t attracted to overweight women with 3 plus kids, you making 60k won’t mean anything
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:15 PM
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I get very annoyed when people such and such is out there. Obviously we know child free people, but there isn’t a systematic way fore those people to meet
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 04:55 PM
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I call women picky if they start complaining about dating and I’m looking who they pick or who they go after. If you’re overweight and/or have 3 and expect some gq model to take you seriously, but refuse to date the 5’9 slightly overweight guy making 60k, you’re picky IF you complain about your dating life
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 04:30 PM
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If women want to have different rules, stop telling us how much you know your worth or that women require all these things to be with them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:27 PM
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Wait, if this number is only 60 percent and it includes adoptive and step dad’s, what’s the percentage of men who actually have biological kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:38 PM
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The problem with this question is that we don’t have a picture of him and we can’t see how he interacts with women. Is he on dating apps? Does he approach women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 02:21 AM
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Nothing would change. There’s still other dating websites and people would meet in real life
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 07:10 PM
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The problem for most guys is that after being told no or they have a boyfriend, they continue to engage. I think part of this is you have people on the internet who share stories of getting a woman or a woman changing her mind after saying no initially, that guys feel they to keep engaging after the initial rejection
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:54 PM
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But the stats are reflecting that access to more information is showing in real life that dating has changed
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:36 PM
2

How?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:41 AM
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You know who else uses this tactic, Donald Trump. He will make statements that depending on who you are, you can interpret them differently
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:08 PM
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Is she a grown adult? If so, that’s on her, not anyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:03 PM
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That’s usually comes with the territory
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:01 PM
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I’m not sure why dating a woman with low self esteem is a bad thing. They can still make great wives and moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:01 PM
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Tom Brady’s marriage proved that dating a boss babe when you are successful is a dumb idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:59 PM
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I doubt you know more than one or two people who have taken the redpill
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 02:53 PM
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Why are you assuming there is a life of misery and ostracisation
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 02:06 PM
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No, you have not seen many short ugly guys crush it. There’s no way you know that many specific category of men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:28 PM
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Thank you. I’m no longer believing any guy who claims to know some guy who looks like an alien, and hooking up with Victoria secret type models every month
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:27 PM
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One of the problems I get annoyed with post like these is that people misunderstand what the height\money\status thing is about. When you have all 3, it makes it a lot easier to attract women. It doesn’t mean you’ll be alone forever. Also, could that overweight guy dump his girlfriend and attract the same type of attractive women every week? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:25 PM
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This is a reminder that you don’t have to ask the mom for a paternity test. Just do it yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:21 PM
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There are a bunch of studies that say women like dad bods, but men who are in shape with muscles do better with women. Women may say they have positive feelings towards men, but actions matter more than
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 07:15 PM
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If women were that scared if men, than every woman would stop talking to men, stop having sex. It’s just a chronically online dumb question
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:56 AM
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The point is, most of the 4b movement is pointless. It would have any teeth if it was made up of childless women in their twenties and early thirties. Most men don’t care about older women who have kids or are childless. It has no affect on them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 12:11 AM
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There are 198 countries and a lot of the women in that 4b movement probably already had kids or 35 plus. Who cares
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 12:44 PM
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There’s no evidence of this outside of western countries. That 4b movement is isolated to Korea
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 09:06 PM
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If women in those countries don’t want to have kids or be in relationships, that’s their right. The men in those countries should just find the women who want a family
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 08:28 PM
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It’s not different. People are assuming if you use money for attraction, that’s the only thing you are using, but if you use your looks, there’s other things that come with that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:14 PM
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I think the point of the OP is that women need to stop saying what the bare minimum is if it doesn’t hold up in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 08:00 AM
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Most women don’t find most men attractive, so it would be just a small percentage of men getting sex
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:23 PM
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It’s a thing, but they go to other western countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 04:11 PM
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Use lifts, get your passport, get surgery, use influence, learn game, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 08:06 PM
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You don’t earn extra points for playing the game the right way if you don’t end with the outcomes you want. The people who criticize you aren’t going to get you the outcomes you want. Just don’t complain about the consequences if you suffer them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 08:04 PM
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Location is not discussed enough and it’s a dilemma that a lot of people face. Adapt to your surroundings or where the kind of people you want to date exist. If you want more traditional women, go to the Midwest or the south, not Miami.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 02:35 PM
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This is actually a good thing. I think the what would make a significant change is men who have daughters start telling them they aren’t special or unique and stop telling them they are pretty when they aren’t. We also need to coach boys on the realities of attraction and get to learn how to handle rejection and to learn to me more physically attractive to the opposite sex
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:30 PM
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Probably was the beginning stages
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:27 PM
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This probably used to be true, but in the age of online dating and me too, I don’t think most men enjoy the hunt anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:00 PM
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Just be yourself and the right one will come along
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 07:14 PM
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You’re being disingenuous. There’s nothing guaranteed. Your chances are just higher
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 06:54 PM
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This isn’t completely right. You can’t be high value and lack options, but just because you have a lot of women after you doesn’t make you high value
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 06:38 PM
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That’s an overblown stat. It was conducted at one hospital and low sample size
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 02:42 AM
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Women find muscles attractive on men. What they hate is everything they perceive that comes with it. This is for short term, these men are successful, but for long term more women may be turned off
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 02:28 AM
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For the same reason some women demand you pay all her bills. They want an unfair deal
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 03:47 AM
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I’m not arguing that. My question is why women want to challenge the 80% stat when they admit they don’t find a lot of men attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 12:50 AM
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It’s not that it’s unbelievable, but outliers try to present it like it’s more mainstream than what it truly is
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 08:33 PM
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I have a theory that I don’t have any data to backup, but it’s anecdotal. I think the birth rates are plummeting because women today view men as less masculine than ever before. I don’t think women feel that the men of today would be as great of a protector of the family and don’t trust us men. I think the arguments of the abortion pill, cost of childcare, climate change etc are valid issues, but I don’t think women are as attracted to men and they can more easily leave. You have countries that …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 08:53 PM
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What’s an example of a black man that is hot?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 07:37 AM
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Socially competent in talking to a random person and socially competent in a romantic sense is too different things. I’m not trying to have sex with my friends or business associates. You’re acting like they are same
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 08:20 PM
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How do you think people met before dating apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 06:38 PM
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They are saying women aren’t just simply saying no. These women are berating and embarrassing men for even making the attempt to approach them. In some cases, they are straight accusing men of harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 06:36 PM
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It does require work because you’re talking about a romantic connection. It’s easier when it comes to making friends or associates with these interaction s because your relationship will not nearly as intimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 06:25 PM
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No you don’t. You don’t have to approach, you have to carry the conversation, you don’t have to try to create a spark. Men have to read and react to be interesting on the fly to a stranger with no information. That’s hard. You have to that over and over to find a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 06:23 PM
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Having hobbies, ambition, and taking care yourself will only help you get an opportunity. A man needs all of that just for you to consider going on a date with him. He still has to be all that plus charismatic, funny, flirty, etc. 98% of men are not taught that growing up. That’s something men have to work on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 06:18 PM
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I started a post in another forum, but I’ll ask it here for women. Why do you think most men are physically ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 01:11 AM
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I’m not sure this is dual mating. She’s not asking you to provide for the kids
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/10/23 01:17 PM
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Because this forum is about relationships, so that’s the angle I’m coming from
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:34 PM
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What is a compliment supposed to accomplish? Make you feel better about yourself. If you want to be in a relationship and women are rejecting you, that compliment won’t have value
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:07 PM
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You can value a lot of things, but that doesn’t change the fact you still want to be in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:06 PM
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Making a guy feel better won’t matter if you still face rejection
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:05 PM
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Wait, you need sexual attraction if you want to be in a relationship. If women aren’t sexually attracted to you, what do male compliments achieve
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:04 PM
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Thank you. There’s no app than solve the fundamental problem. Most women aren’t attracted to most men. Unless every guy starts to look like a male model, most guys will struggle
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 04:12 PM
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Why? Making a guy feel better won’t change the fact women don’t find him attractive. Part of the issue in dating is too many women telling each other they are a 10 and women believing they deserve more than they should
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 04:05 PM
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Because it has no value. If 20 guys compliment me but no women find me attractive, than it just means those guys were full of shit
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 04:02 PM
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So why did you respond too it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 12:36 PM
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You can meet people at bars/clubs. That’s just a cope for men who don’t have balls to go approach women. Y’all really think every woman at a bar is 304?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 12:36 PM
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You can absolutely teach. No guy is born with know how to talk to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 12:36 PM
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Sure. There are men who would rather be alone and there men who want to be In relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 12:36 PM
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It is true that women don’t find most men attractive, these debates exist because men are trying to figure out a way to overcome this without changing the system. The real answer is too teach men at an early age how to really attract instead of teaching them Disney fairytale nonsense. The quickest solution are to change the laws that will help make more men attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 11:34 AM
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You’d still have the same issues. Most men are still ugly so most women don’t want most men. Women don’t need or want most men because most don’t want marriage and kids unless some Henry cavil crosses their face. They still want men to provide, most men will still be afraid to approach because they don’t want to be accused of being a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 04:55 PM
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Depends on where you live, how you look, and how good your game is
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 04:50 PM
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People who complain about fairness are upset they can’t get the guy or woman they want without changing themselves and/or making sacrifices
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 02:47 AM
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The bar is low for men they are attracted too. For alot of guys, they have to climb mountains for that same woman to be attracted to them
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 05:50 PM
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You aren’t going to talk to them unless you find them physically attractive. Just because you see them In action won’t mean anything if you think they are ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:28 PM
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His point is the personality is developed through reps of being around women. Those women are around him because of his looks
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:25 PM
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This is straight up woo woo nonsense. This is post is strictly about physical appearance. Most men are ugly and need to lol better. This has nothing to do with activities or whatever else you’re talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:13 PM
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Yes. You need to get comfortable with rejection, overcoming approach anxiety and being more competent when talking to women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:11 PM
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I don’t know what country you’re in, but 70 to 75 percent of in America are overweight or obese. Less than 5% have a six pack . This idea that men are hitting the gym isn’t based in any reality
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:10 PM
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No they aren’t. 70 to 75% are overweight in America. They wouldn’t be struggling on dating apps if they were taking care of themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:06 PM
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The ugly had to make a ton of money, which is hard to do. The attractive guy didn’t have to do anything but just exist. Attractive will still have kids with that guy, so long term relationship argument doesn’t matter
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 02:20 AM
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I have a theory that most women don’t talk about their physical appearance standards because they hate that beauty standards exist, and if they start to acknowledge it, it makes them no better than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 12:10 AM
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I think issue is women need to tell the men who they aren’t attracted to what they need to do to become attractive so they have more options. The problem right now is the men they want aren’t acting right, and won’t change, but they arent physically attracted to the other options.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 12:05 AM
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As a guy, I completely agree that men need to work on their appearance. I actually don’t understand why more women don’t articulate their physical preferences. I’ll see video after video on tik tok and Instagram about what they want men to do in relationships, but never spell out what they want men to look like. I know the response will be every woman is different, but men are able to give women a standard look to shoot for, why can’t women?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 11:58 PM
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One hard truth is there are broke, unemployed men who will get the most attractive women because they are good looking. Not only that, but these women will have their kids, buy them gifts, give them money, let them live rent free in their place. The only reason is they we’re blessed with good genetics. You can do everything right, and still not get half of what these men get.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 11:28 PM
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This post is full of virtue signaling and coping all at once. If getting sex was easy, this forum wouldn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 01:19 PM
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Just be yourself is terrible because it’s meant for women when choosing their partner. They don’t want men pretending to be someone they aren’t and potentially have kids with them and he ends up being a terrible guy. The advice isn’t meant to help attract the kind of women you want. It took forever for me to understand why women tell men that. It’s not for your benefit. Men have to realize that just because you’re born and taught a certain way, doesn’t mean you can’t learn to make permanent sust…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 08:06 PM
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Part of the issue is people are still trying operate under old school dating rules in a new dating environment. Women no longer care about marriage and kids as they once do and don’t need men for money or “protection” so physical appearance matters more. Men aren’t used to having to worry about that. Men are hip to the game that being chivalrous means nothing to most women. women expected men to take them to dinners or show more effort and men realize there are guys putting in bare minimum effor…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 03:34 PM
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Just be yourself is the worst advice ever given to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 03:18 PM
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You’re confusing making a woman your wife and just having sex. Most men don’t care about body count for women when it’s just sex. If I’m going to wife you up, that’s a different story
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 02:52 PM
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Too many guys confuse chasing with putting effort to attract women. You need to leave your house and approach women, take better pictures for your online profile, work on your appearance. Guys think you’re chasing women when you do that. Chasing women is going after women after they reject you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 12:56 PM
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Yes and no. Yes because you aren’t raising another man’s kids. No, because of her mental health after losing a child will be too much to overcome
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:45 PM
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Source: trust me bro
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:43 AM
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What women call dad bods are bodybuilders on a bulk, or 3 months away from abs. Men define dad bods as beer bellies
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:42 AM
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Bbls are dangerous too. If a guy is willing to risk it, I don’t see the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 08:50 PM
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It’s our biology. Men don’t care about insecurity in a woman. For women, it’s a safety issue to be with a man who is insecure. How can she trust your protection if you’re insecure
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 08:29 PM
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Why is it horrific? It’s simply an option for men to help them out
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 08:25 PM
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In terms of dating and relationships, men can make up for their lack of physical attraction with other things. If a woman isn’t attractive, it’s game over for her. She can’t make up for it with personality
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 08:24 PM
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Bruh. Dudes cold approached at bus stops, in clubs, bars, at concerts, malls, grocery stores, bookstores. I met my ex-wife in a bar. Y’all just have wishful thinking with this idea that men never walked up to random woman they found attractive and tried to get her number.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 08:22 PM
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How do you think people met before dating apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 05:35 PM
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How much am I making?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 12:40 PM
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Because you have to generalize or otherwise these conversations go no where because someone will always throw in exceptions or talk about the minority, plus people want to believe so badly we’re so different but we aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 09:51 PM
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I know, but OP said men are fat and I was pointing out so are the women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 12:01 AM
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Over 75% of women are overweight in America. For some reason, there’s this belief that women stay working on their looks
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 11:00 PM
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Exactly. Something a lot of guys in here need to know that women approach men, pay for dates, are very feminine and do all types of stuff for men. Just not with you or me. We have to put in work
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 07:50 PM
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It’s from women making demands that don’t qualify for it. You got women thinking they are 10 going on social making requirements for a dating partner and don’t expect to do anything in return
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 09:55 AM
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You’re correct, you don’t need to do anything. The issue is when you look for advice or complain about dating in general, people will tell you to lower your standards. I was overweight for the longest, but refused to lose weight, thus my dating life wasn’t what I wanted. I cant go complain about how much dating sucks if I refused to do anything personally about it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 01:43 AM
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Broke, don’t take care of his other kids, don’t have his own place, no game plan, tries to have unprotected sex, not trying to marry you, drugs, drinking, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 12:40 AM
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You can absolutely blame women for choosing men with red flags and obvious signs we wouldn’t be a good dad
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 08:32 PM
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If you’re a deadbeat dad, got no respect for you and you’re simply a b!tch for not taking care of your kids. I do agree that women control the market and it’s their fault for choosing men that ain’t shit
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 08:31 PM
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The only people who are really obsessed are older women and few younger feminists. Age gaps don’t even really exist because most women don’t find most men attractive anyway. The topic really only comes into play with male celebrities
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:00 PM
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It’s not women’s fault. It’s the system in the western world. Inflation is high, childcare is high, wages aren’t keeping up with inflation, because the laws allow for hypergamy to go wild, only a small select group of men are considered attractive to women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:19 AM
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It does make sense. If you think you deserve a finance bro, and you can’t attract one, you wouldn’t say I’m going to go after athletes and celebrities unless you make changes to yourself. Also, I don’t know what your standards were compared to now. You may think you upped your standards but really didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 05:22 AM
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Men only tell women to lower their standards when women start to complain about their dating life. Don’t come on social media or complain to your friends about how tough dating, and then get pissy if you’re told to lower your standards. Clearly they are too high if you’re complaining
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 04:36 AM
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Here’s the problem with this question. The guy who doesn’t raise his kids was able to attract multiple women to have his kids. There’s must be something about that guy that women like. The guy who raises another man’s kids wasn’t able to find a childless woman to have his kids, so he was reduced to finding someone who didn’t have as many options.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 06:39 PM
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Is there really social pressure anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 04:53 PM
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I think the current dating market is proving that this isnt true. Women are more willing to be alone and celibate than they used to believe
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 04:52 PM
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This used to be true, but most women today would rather be single and childless
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 04:50 PM
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Because those men are willing to give them the type of relationship they want
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 02:39 PM
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I find this comment interesting because I can say the samething about men. We have varied taste yet women seem to know what they need to do appeal to the male gaze.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 08:15 PM
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I have female friends, and no, they never give clear answers. I’ve specifically what they like and outside of height, it’s always vague
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 05:10 PM
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My point is, is that woman don’t intentionally make physical appearance a point to tell men. Like us men tell women that we want thin waist, butt, big boobs etc. women don’t outwardly declare what men should look like. We shouldn’t need to look at conventionally attractive men. They should say, we want six pack, tall, broad shoulders, the hair should look like this, your beard should look like this. Be very explicit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 04:51 PM
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What exactly is the definition of success? The red pill and the blue pill don't have the same definition of success. Blue pill may believe 50/50 marriage, but red pill may believe traditional marriage is success. Also, what kind of women are you attracting? That also matters with success
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 03:51 PM
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isn't it your responsibility to tell us what you find physically attractive? Us men have told yall what we like
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 03:41 PM
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It is, but women refuse to create and enforce beauty standards for men, so this is the result
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 03:19 PM
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To be honest. Women as a collective need to start outlining what guys need to do to be more physically attractive. The problem is, y’all can’t get on the same page with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 03:18 PM
4

The issue is that there aren’t enough attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 02:44 PM
4

She’s not choosing for right reasons. She chose him because she couldn’t the guy she really wants to settle down and act right
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 02:43 PM
1

It happens all the time. Women will marry a guy they aren’t physically attracted too, but because his personality is good, they will settle
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 02:41 PM
2

Guys, another y’all should know, get good at sex. If I’m being more specific, get good at oral and trying to last long. You can act like the biggest beta male in world, but if you can perform really well, you will instantly go from “husband material” to ready to go to therapy over you if y’all break up
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:06 PM
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I think most women only do this because they are worried about a terrible reaction. I don’t think women treat unattractive men nicely out of the kindness of their heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 09:58 AM
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One of the problems with these questions, is that there’s an underlying desire to look for one magical thing that will fix your dating life with women. Does fashion matter, yes, but it’s one part of the puzzle. Going out and buying new clothes isn’t going to turn you into a ladies man. You still need to get in shape, you still need to fix your teeth, you still need to get a haircut, you still need to get better photos for your dating app profile, you still need to leave your place and talk to wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:07 PM
1

There’s only so many topics you can discuss. At some point we know the answers, but most want a short cut
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:11 PM
1

Ok, so is every other post. Just ignore it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:05 PM
1

Looks will matter to extent of your effort in other areas of attracting women and how much you put yourself in front of women. If just rely on online dating, it will matter alot. If you attempt cold approach in bars, sporting events, do singles and speed dating events, it won’t matter as much
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 02:06 PM
2

So what. Why not just ignore it? We see a different version of the same topics everyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 02:03 PM
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That’s one of the reasons you have passport bros. If you’re a 5’7 slightly overweight white guy making 55k in the US, go the Philippines. You’re instantly part of the top 1% income earners, nearly a foot taller than most women, and women want to have mixed babies with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 11:04 AM
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This is something that very few guys understand. So many guys want you to believe they are getting plenty of sex easily when a lot of them are shooting their shot a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 10:56 AM
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That’s just life. Some people can lose weight just making a few adjustments, some people have to count calories to lose weight. Some players are just naturally gifted, other players have to put hours in the film room and weight room to a guy the same results. Life isn’t fair. Get over it or just quit trying
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 10:53 AM
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We don’t need each other anymore, and with more and more people deciding marriage and kids aren’t necessary, we’ve removed any incentive to pair up. Outside of a desire not be lonely and having sex, what do you gain from a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:30 PM
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Not really. Men struggle more because it requires more things to be attractive and it requires more development and most guys are taught the wrong way of doing things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 10:42 AM
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Buts it not common. Most women in general find most men to be unattractive. It’s laughable to think there’s a bunch of men in their 30’s and 40’s dating women in their early twenties
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:07 AM
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But most men aren’t even dating young women. That may be a desire, but most men struggle to attract women in general. The number of men in their 30’s and 40’s dating women in their early twenties is very few.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:06 PM
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It’s interesting how much this topic comes up, considering that if you look at the numbers, the age gap of marriages are 2.3 years. There’s very few men who are even able to attract younger women. Also, on the topic of what do you talk about. I’m a black male from the Deep South who lived the city. I’ve dated white women my age who were born in the suburbs or rural America and rarely were around minorities growing up. Trust me, finding things in common weren’t easy. This idea that just because y…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 04:54 PM
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In my opinion, I think men have the wrong idea about using money to attract women. Every guy needs something thing to attract women. Some are good looking, some use humor, money, status whatever. That isn’t really the problem. It’s when you get her, you don’t have any other qualities to keep her. A broke guy may use his looks, but he also has charm or crushes it in bed. The problem with passport bros is they use their money to bring the woman into his life, but that’s his only move. Do you have …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 06:12 PM
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I swear, I think some of posts are troll post. I’m sorry, but I simply don’t believe you’ve had guys say that women having a job is a bad thing. What you probably have heard is that a woman’s career isn’t going to make you more attractive to men. What women prioritize in their attraction to men is not the same for men. Women care more about a man’s ambition and career, for men, it’s lower on the totem pole.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 12:46 PM
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Right, because never women complain about things that men do, that they are also guilty of.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 11:25 AM
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Two questions. 1. If these guys are broke, how are they able to travel? 2. Why is being able to attract a woman in a western country supposed to be the gold standard. I’m pretty sure most men who are married in the Asian country couldn’t get a western woman if they traveled, so who cares if a western man couldn’t get a woman here. Also, alot of these guys are divorced with kids, which means they attracted women who had kids with them
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 12:48 AM
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Let’s say we agree that men are fatter, that still means you’re fat
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 12:44 AM
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It’s not social media, it’s what we tell each other. It should be obvious to any guy that working out and making money will help you attract women, but if you make it a Reddit post or tik tok video, you’ll get a bunch of virtue signaling people telling you that looks and money aren’t important. If you have an overweight woman, it’s obvious to tell her to lose weight, but no, we’ll tell her she’s beautiful the way she is. We as a society have been lying to each other about what we want and the da…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:45 PM
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Did you really improve? Or just on the margins. I think men tend to overestimate how much they improved. If you we’re improving to attract women, did you focus on the things that mattered? You’re more social, what does that mean? What work did you do with your dating apps? How often are you going out to meet women? Are you actually approaching? You’re in shape. Does that mean six pack? Did you add muscle? You got new clothes. Is it something that the women you’re attracted to would like to see y…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 01:58 PM
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Averykroll1 is the tik tok
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:25 AM
2

Here’s the thing, women do approach men. Women do make it clear they want a guy. The reality is, most men are too ugly for women to show interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:19 AM
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Part of the issue is I think there’s a disconnect with how we define certain things. For the longest, women kept saying they are attracted to dad bods, and us guys knew this couldn’t be true, because our version of dad bod, is a middle fat guy, like Seth Rogan in his 20’s and 30’s. When women said dad bod, they meant a gym guy who was about 3 months away from a six pack. When women say they don’t care about looks, their version is Henry cavil, for men it’s Ryan Reynolds. The point is, men need t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:16 AM
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I can show you a video on tik tok with 10 million likes of an attractive blonde literally saying women don’t really care about looks and 90% of the women in the comment section agreeing. Now I don’t believe it, and they are virtue signaling, but there are really women out there telling men they don’t prioritize looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:10 AM
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I think the screeching is men being upset a woman pretends to be with you because of your personality or looks, but come to find out she sees you as a beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 02:50 AM
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From my understanding, she wants to have kids with him. What that means in terms of attraction, I have no idea, but it’s got to mean something if you want to have a guys kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 02:40 AM
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In a perfect world you’re wanted for your physical appearance, but it’s not bad to be wanted for your resources as long as she wants you for other things also.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 02:18 AM
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My best friends niece is 23 years old, and probably 7 to 7.5. Her boyfriend is 56 years and a millionaire. He’s a solid 3. I don’t know why people come on here and hand wave away the idea that money won’t make him attractive. IT’s evidence of his ambition
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 02:16 AM
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Depends on where you live, who you’re trying to attract and your looks are at that point in time. Are you a 5’4, bald, overweight Indian or are you a 5’8 white guy with a dad bod (the male version dad bod, not the female version).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 02:11 AM
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Cold approach works, but your batting average will be low. No matter what dating strategy you use, there are pros and cons
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 10:08 PM
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You must be young, because you don’t know how it was before dating apps existed. Men had to cold approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 10:06 PM
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Throughout the course of human history, only a small percentage of men have been to sleep with attractive women on a consistent basis without force or law. On a biological basis, women only find a few men to be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 11:32 PM
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If you’re an average guy, you have 5 options. Stay single, change the type of woman you’re attracted too, improve yourself, go overseas. A fifth is trying to change the system back to the way it was. Limit reproductive healthcare, lower access to college, remove alimony, child support, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 04:26 PM
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Dating apps have their issues, but they suck because choose men who have too many options and men take bad pictures and are physically unattractive because they are overweight and dress horribly
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 12:43 PM
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If they could just go outside, they wouldn’t be on the apps to begin. One of the main reasons to go on the app is avoid approaching women and facing rejection. “Going outside” is something they don’t want to do
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 11:26 AM
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You are a simp if you decide to marry a woman who wanted to be a baby mama to a man who already had kids. He decided he wanted to raise another man’s dna despite the fact he could have dated a childless woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 04:30 AM
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The issue is that Ciara shouldn’t have entertained future at all. The fact he had multiple baby mamas and she looked past that and than got pregnant by him shows that’s what she is really attracted too, but he wasn’t going to act right. I’m sorry, you have to be a major simp to look at Ciara did and decide that’s who you want to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 04:25 AM
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His wife, decided to become a 3rd baby mama despite knowing future’s reputation and the fact he already had multiple baby mamas. It wasn’t a one night stand, she saw future, saw he had multiple kids with multiple women, ignored that and got pregnant without requiring marriage first. That’s who Russell Wilson decided to wife up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 04:22 AM
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So men should strive to marry a woman who wanted to be the 3rd baby mama to a man who didn’t want to take care of his kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 03:58 AM
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Why did she choose to entertain a man who already had multiple baby’s mamas and become another one. Why couldn’t she find a Russell Wilson type when she was childless?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 03:56 AM
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Yep. This is why they hate when you tell them to choose better. They don’t want to because they aren’t attracted to the Russell Wilson’s types. They are upset the men they want can’t or won’t act right
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 03:54 AM
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He chose a woman who was willing to be ANOTHER baby mama to future. Remember, Future already had multiple baby mamas, Ciara saw that, and decided to become another one. That’s why Russell Wilson will continue to be called a simp
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 03:52 AM
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You women like Russell Wilson because he married a woman who chose to be a single mom and he’s rich and famous.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 03:49 AM
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The only way I would believe this post, is if 75-80 percent of the men on these apps put in maximum effort to have the best profiles possible, but that isn’t the case. I think most men are just butt hurt they can’t get a woman in these apps without putting in any effort. How many of them get professional photos? How many have clothes that look good on them? How many are well groomed? How many guys are overweight or obese? Seriously, I believe that the apps can be better, but telling men to find …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 03:48 AM
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And that response is why you don’t ask. If you can’t be honest about why, no reason to listen to you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 09:32 PM
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If you’re not willing to tell men they are ugly when you know it’s the truth and can’t tell them how to fix it, than this is why you have men who don’t listen to women’s advice
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 08:13 PM
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So this answers why you don’t ask a fish
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 07:41 PM
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The market will decide, but coming on to social media to cry about it is the issue, at least for me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 02:08 PM
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So basically, you can only open up depending on the topic that you deem important
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 06:25 PM
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Ok, so that’s my point. The advice that people should get off the apps doesn’t work because they were already having trouble meeting people
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 02:18 PM
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Because they probably wasn’t having luck meeting women In real life
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 07:56 AM
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Why is the assumption that people who are on dating apps never tried to meet people in real life? Everyone says get off dating apps and meet people in real life, but they probably got on the apps precisely because they had trouble meeting people in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 07:56 AM
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Because it’s rarely the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 07:40 AM
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Being husband material means you don’t have the same sexual desire in him as the guy you see as a one night stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 07:38 AM
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Women want men who they are already attracted too, to be in touch with their feelings. You have to attract women first
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 02:47 PM
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Not really, because to attract a woman out of your league requires skill. In theory, if I can get an attractive woman one time, I can do it again. It doesn’t require skill for a woman to sleep with a hotter guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 03:21 PM
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No men aren’t failing. The issue is certain women having higher standards than their own market value allows. You’ll have a 5 who slept with an 8, and think that’s her level now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 03:05 PM
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Because you’re not owed an explanation of why someone was no longer interested. Sounds like entitlement
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 12:22 PM
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I really don't understand the people who make these post. If men were having luck meeting IRL, they wouldn't be on dating apps in the first place. There seems to be this assumption that most men just jumped on the dating apps without trying to meet women in real life first.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 01:37 AM
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I will never understand why people care about ghosting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 06:08 PM
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What does that have to with my post? You can say this to anyone who list their 3 wishes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 06:07 PM
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People have to be brutally honest about what they are attracted too. You can’t say you want a nice guy or woman, but your dating history is the opposite. If height, race, money, weight matter, you explicitly say it. Everyone’s dating history and body count is available. Included is what actually happened in the relationships and sexual experience. So if you had threesomes or he bought you flowers everyday or you had sex without him having to do anything, it’s all in there. Everyone must achieve …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 01:09 PM
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Max 5. I’m 6’1, but still overweight. I do make six figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 09:31 PM
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This isn’t true at all
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 07:15 PM
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It took me years to figure that out. That’s why you see so many arguments when people write articles, write post or make videos on dating advice. We’re not having the same conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 03:09 PM
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Technically yes, because 90% of the time men have to do the approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 11:50 AM
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Here’s the problem. When men are looking for advice, most of the time, we’re asking about the front end. We want to know what we have to do to get a woman to even give us a chance. Being 6ft, 6 figures, and 6 pack will give us more of an opportunity. When women give advice, they are talking about the back end. They assume attraction already. They want a guy with masculine traits to be nice and bring flowers. They don’t care about a loser being nicer to them. What men should be asking is, how do …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 04:52 AM
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The reason women have a problem with men having to put in the work is because of their future offspring. It means their kids will come out genetically inferior and will require a lot of work for survival
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 10:00 AM
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Thank you. When I see this argument, it never makes sense to me. I refuse to believe that these used to have very clean apartments and houses when they are single and on a dime want to live a hoarder lifestyle once married
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 09:48 AM
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This is wrong. If you’re broke, you need to learn the skills of attracting women without money
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 10:08 PM
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This is only true if you don’t care about having kids and you have atleast something else going. No matter how good you are in bed, a woman will get used to that and look for more especially if wants to settle down and is looking for a provider also
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 02:43 PM
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But you’ll eventually meet someone you match with online and get a feel for them. Plus you can always FaceTime. Plus if you meet someone at a bar, they a dressed very nicely and women also wear makeup. People act differently at first, and can change later
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 12:53 PM
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Ok, so what if matching on app they are into you after a date? How’s that different?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 12:51 PM
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How is that different if you’re meeting multiple guys irl? Wouldn’t you have same issue of picking someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 12:50 PM
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But wouldn’t your confidence get destroyed if you we’re repeating rejected from cold approach?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 12:49 PM
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Thank you. I never understood this logic that irl is different to meeting online. If you meet online, you’ll eventually meet that person irl and you can figure out the vibes and nothing stops you from FaceTiming also
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 12:47 PM
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With pickup you have to do volume approaching if your doing cold approach. Is he going to bars or meeting women on the streets?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 11:54 AM
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I was use the example Clark Kent and Superman. Superman has the fboy qualities and Kent has the nice guy qualities. For women, it’s a requirement that you have superman qualities. Clark Kent is more negotiable
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 05:23 PM
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No, I’m taking my own experience as a guy who had that physique and other guys like me, and our experience says women we’re attracted to that body type
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 09:33 PM
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I’m 6’1 and played college football. I had that physique. It was even close compared to now. All my teammates tell the difference is night and day.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 09:22 PM
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I think where our disagreement is what you define as “big muscles” and “jacked”. I wouldn’t classify Thor as jacked or big muscles. He’s shredded, but I wouldn’t say he has big muscles or is jacked. If you’re talking about chris bumstead or Arnold, I’m more inclined to agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 08:24 PM
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You’re making a separate argument. You don’t have to be chiseled to attract women, but you’re original post is making the argument that most women don’t find tall men who are inshape with abs attractive. Does every single woman find it attractive, no. There aren’t any absolutes, but I don’t think you have an argument that most women wouldn’t find guys over 6 feet, with a jawline and abs not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 08:08 PM
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Nothing is 100%, but if you get that physique, that will give you best chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 07:45 PM
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The problem with this argument is that most women don’t find most men attractive and most men are overweight. The type of physique you’re talking about is rare. It would be hard to convince most people that most women would look at a tall in shape guy and go “nah, give me 5’9 and overweight and rarely in gym type of guy”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 07:43 PM
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Yes, most virgin men are over 6 foot with abs, muscles and a defined jawline 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 07:39 PM
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In order for this argument to work, we’d have to accept the argument that most women aren’t attracted to men over 6’3, with abs and a square jawline. Are you prepared to make that argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 07:18 PM
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The reason people care because it says a lot about society and what a future will look like. We also have to ask what is the cause of these reasons and are they problem. Our dating choices affect the economy. If women are choosing men based off ridiculous reasons, they end up single moms, they are more likely to raise criminals and more crime equals homelessness, housing cost, tax base that leaves. I think we want to believe our dating choices only affect us individually, but in reality, it can …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:51 PM
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You want to be wanted for genuine desire. I’d rather be needed than wanted if being wanted means you’ll settle for me because I’m a “good guy” and/or safe option.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:44 PM
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Is a western woman supposed to be the desired goal? Is she better than some woman Columbia or south east Asia?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 01:57 AM
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I never gave a solution, I was just explaining why people don’t date people who align with their interests. The solution is to improve yourself and also reevaluate your interests. A lot of people have unrealistic standards and expectations
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 11:40 PM
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Physical attraction. You simply may not be physically attracted to the people who align with your interests. Most women know a guy who will give her the world, but he’s short, or fat, or bald. Most men can find a single mom or obese chick who will be submissive and cater to his every wish, but he doesn’t that woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 10:40 PM
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Very unpopular and I agree. These women have kids with these men, but they are horrible people. Their excuse will be they didn’t see the red flags till later, as if they we were choir boys from the start
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 10:36 AM
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There’s no benefit to dating a single mom even if you have kids of your own. You’ll have all the responsibility with no authority
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 10:34 AM
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Where did I say you’re a woman? My comment still stands. Jonah hill did nothing wrong. It’s mostly women whining that he was controlling when he did the samething women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:57 PM
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This entire controversy can be summed up as women are ok establishing their boundaries but get but hurt when men do it. Y’all are really trying to play the semantics game. It’s lame but whatever. I’m on Jonah hill’s side. Yes I’m a guy, and if that makes me a misogynist, so be it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:48 PM
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Nope, a woman on tik tok debunked that study. Women are almost as likely to leave as men do
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:59 PM
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Ok, let’s say I stick with it, but I can’t an erection because her fat isn’t aesthetically pleasing. What now?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:41 AM
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If they are together, they will be see what their partner is doing everyday
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:40 AM
1

Well that almost means you don’t have to date that person either
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:37 AM
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Women do that already
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:35 AM
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That other stuff won’t matter if she doesn’t give you an opportunity. This part seems to the issue people ignore. You have to look good for her to even want to entertain you. You won’t even get a chance to show off the “other things” if she feels you’re not physically attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:43 AM
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That’s what I figured. This conversation depends on how you meet. His appearance matters more if you met by dating app or if he just cold approached you. In this case, you got to know him over time
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:40 AM
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How did you meet your boyfriend? Dating app, cold approach?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:44 PM
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It matters much more in the upfront stages. Unless you know a woman for a while and started as friends first, the majority of women you attempt a romantic relationship with, you need to pass her looks threshold and being in shape helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:43 PM
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I actually agree with this take. I’m not sure why guys need to give some intellectual answer. It’s simply easy to say it’s not aesthetically pleasing to look at.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:21 PM
1

What do these podcasters say, that I couldn’t find a group of women say didn’t say the equivalent?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:22 PM
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I’ve literally seen women on tik tok make the same argument about men. If you want to make case their view about dating women isn’t ideal, I can agree, but I never understood this idea that they hate women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 01:57 PM
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Were they podcasters? That’s what the post is referring too, not a bunch of Randos on Reddit forums
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 12:05 PM
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I keep seeing the argument that they hate women. What exactly do the they say that makes you think that? Give me specifics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:40 AM
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You can justify it, if you’re able to get it. Like a single mom or dad wanting to date a childless partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 10:45 PM
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No. There would be your group of men who would achieve success regardless of women. Most men would not work as hard. I wouldn’t care about making 6 figures or getting into shape nearly as much if women weren’t part of the picture
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 08:19 PM
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Tinder and hinge literally released that matched the okcupid study. Women find most men physically unattractive. Why is that so hard for women to admit, especially when men are acknowledging it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:58 AM
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You’re asking the wrong question. What you’re really asking is why can’t women be players without being judged?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:58 AM
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It’s best if both like each other on the same level. The relationship is 100% doomed if the man likes the woman more
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:54 AM
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Yes, and no matter how much people want to discredit that study, dating apps that have been created have supported that study. Women even come on social media and admit they swipe left on most profiles. Why are women so reluctant to admit they find most men physically unattractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:52 AM
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How many emotionally healthy people you think exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:10 PM
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Nah, you can do it. Just don’t continue to engage if she says not interested
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:59 PM
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Your point about other things making men attractive isn’t really relevant to the original post. The ok Cupid study is about physical attraction. Personality and other things don’t matter for how a guy looks. Dating apps are perfect for guys if they want to understand where they stand when it comes to physical attraction. The reality is, us men have to step up our game in the looks department if you want to succeed on dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:56 PM
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No it’s not. Dating apps prove this. Any data has shown that women only find a small percentage of men physically attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:48 AM
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It does matter, because women on dating apps don’t message men they don’t find attractive. Remember, for ok cupid, men were still able message women. You can’t do that on most apps
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:47 AM
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It’s not fucked. Us men aren’t used to having to care about our physical appearance like women do. If you want to do better with online dating, you have to care about your weight, skin care, teeth, hair, what you wear, and how you take pictures. All these things are stuff women do already.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:45 AM
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Those are actions and personality traits. The topic is about physical attraction. Women find most men physically unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:42 AM
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I think the opposite is true. Dating apps are ideal because it tells you how physically attractive you are with anything else effecting your rating. Women get to look at a picture and it’s yes or no. If you’re get few or no matches, that means physically, you’re unappealing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:40 AM
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Because attractiveness is not as subjective as women want to believe. Across any country or continent, Henry cavil is considered attractive. If every guy had the ability to grow to over 6 feet, get a six pack, get a full set of hair, and sharpen their jawline, they would be attractive. The reason you find different guys attractive is be because most men don’t put any effort into their appearance
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:34 AM
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I don’t think men said this study was wrong. It’s women who are trying to say the study is incorrect. Men are called incels when they refer to this study, so don’t go blaming us
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:31 AM
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It does hold up because dating apps like tinder and hinge confirm these numbers with their data
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:22 AM
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While this could be true, the more likely is most men are simply unattractive. 70%-75% of men are overweight, we don’t try to dress at all, no skincare routine, very few do any plastic surgery. We just don’t keep up with our appearance at the same rate as women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:19 AM
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As a guy, you’re definitely in the minority of that thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:16 AM
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The problem with this comment is that I can find plenty of women on tik tok who say the exact opposite and that you should approach women. Y’all need to get on the same page.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:10 AM
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Wait, how did you arrive that red pill are unlikely to have been on a date. Some of the top guys have been married with kids
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 04:06 PM
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That’s one of the problems with social media. We keep forgetting that people in these forums come from different countries and even different parts of the same country. I’m American and born in the south, but live in the northeast. The dating culture is different even in this country depending on where you live
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:46 PM
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Because if you don’t use generalizations, these conversations go nowhere. Everyone will simply say not all or I know some exception, so it makes these forums pointless
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 08:13 PM
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It’s not the same because women aren’t expected to provide for the man’s child
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 08:11 PM
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A lot of men who are childless end up dating and marrying single moms
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 08:10 PM
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I’m 6’1, make $110k and 6 inches
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 10:42 PM
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Best friend and college roommate was a Tyrone. He was fwb in college with his future wife. He broke it off. He joined the military, banged women in multiple countries while she tried to convince him to get back with her. She even stalked girls on Facebook that he was hooking up with. I’m 90% sure she didn’t date a single guy the whole time he was doing his thing. He eventually got back with her. They have 3 kids and have been married for over 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 10:30 AM
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Criminal history
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 01:52 PM
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Run background checks and also ask about dating history, but not just how many relationships. That means body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 10:47 AM
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There’s nothing wrong with requiring physical attraction, but people come on social making demands that they don’t qualify for and cry that they can’t find a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 01:15 AM
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Never claimed yall didn't. Dating apps prove that. Now finding them attractive is another thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:41 AM
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I didn’t mansplain your attraction, I explained why the redpill doesn’t believe you. Who cares if he is a misogynist. He’s still physically attractive and most different types of women will find him attractive and he’ll have no problem meeting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:51 PM
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I wish women would be more specific. What does take care of himself mean? What does his body, facial hair etc need to look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:59 AM
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The reason why us men don’t believe you is because we know there are men who appeal to different sets of women. Henry cavil for example. No matter your taste, most women find him attractive. The issue is most men don’t put in effort to get to his level so women have to settle on looks, so y’all get this perception that y’all have different taste. The reality is that you just don’t have enough good looking guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:51 AM
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No way. When it comes to physical attraction, women don’t find that many men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:47 AM
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Women feel they settle more because they are usually the more attractive of the two and they think they are more mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 05:51 PM
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I agree that women don’t want or care for men to look like bodybuilders. With that being said, physical appearance is becoming more important because women no longer need men for money, so other things will be more important
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 07:16 PM
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I agree with this post. The other issue is that a lot of people aren’t willing to make changes to get what they desire. They believe they shouldn’t have to change to attract what they desire
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 01:09 PM
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Your last point is wrong. Just approach any woman you find attractive. If you wait for signals, you’ll rarely get unless you’re really attractive. I’m almost 40, we had to approach before dating apps existed, I would have never met my previous girlfriends or ex-wife if I waited for a signal
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:25 AM
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Im a guy. The reality is, men and women are not the same and that’s just the way it is. We don’t prioritize the samething. If I’m making enough money, a woman can be broke, homeless, living with their parents, it won’t matter to me. Most women, it’s a dealbreaker. The reason women get away with this is because we’re supposed to protect, not the other way around. That’s just the way it is. Nobody is forcing us to date autistic women, us men just simply don’t care enough, but for women, they have …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:16 AM
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Yea, we should just say that skinny or aesthetically pleasing to look at than fat women. I don’t know why we have to dress it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 10:50 AM
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I don’t know what country you’re from, but 95% of young women in the west aren’t dating men 20 years older. It’s only a tiny percentage of men who can pull this off
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 06:24 PM
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Yes they are. They will just say be yourself and the right one will come along. So, just continue to live the life you’re living
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 01:07 PM
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No that isn't. Being yourself is doing the samething day in and day out. For example, going to work, coming home and playing video games is justing being yourself. Its not get you any women. Changing yourself is going to the gym, eating better, wearing better clothes, going out and meeting people everyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 10:48 AM
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I’m asking what does that look like? What does a physically attractive man look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 12:53 AM
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Why are you assuming it’s lie? You can work on changing yourself permanently
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 11:28 PM
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No, you can change yourself permanently and than they will be attracted to you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 11:04 PM
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You don’t have to act. You can work to change your lifestyle to attract the type of people you want. People make changes all the time for different reasons. I’m not sure why people seem to think you can’t change to get better at dating
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 11:03 PM
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What would women like their men to look like if they were able to control it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 10:58 PM
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No it’s actually terrible advice because it will prevent you from attracting the people you want
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 10:55 PM
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Because most people get into relationships outside of dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:44 PM
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I’m almost 40. We approached at the bars and clubs. That’s how I met my ex-wife
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 05:16 PM
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The idea that you will get the cops called on you is dumb. It’s just an excuse not approach
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 04:22 PM
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Bruh, how do you think we met women before dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 03:25 PM
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That’s a cold approach. Did you know her before you did the escape room? If not, you cold approached her
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 01:07 PM
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That’s because it’s not common. This happened in college. Our left tackle is 6’5 320. His girlfriend was a petite blue eyed blonde cheerleader. She looked like the girl who dated the quarterback, but her type was big guys and people were confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 08:19 PM
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He did what he had to do. Women didn’t what he looked like, so he changed it to attract women. If you don’t like your results, you have to do something about it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 06:59 AM
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I think what the OP is arguing is why so many women seem to be attracted to so few men? Why are 10 women attracted to 1 guy, when there are 7 other guys who are available?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 05:30 PM
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I think question he is asking is why so many women are drawn to the same type of guy? Even if we excepted that the guy lies, why does he have the opportunity to lie to so many women. if there are 100 women and 100 men, 90 of those women are attracted to just 20 of them. In theory, it should be spread out more.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 05:23 PM
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Ok, and I was giving the reason why guys will make changes. It will resonate with some and others it won’t
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 04:53 PM
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Who said anything about lowering yourself? You can be yourself, but if you aren’t attracting the women you want, you will need to change something.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 04:49 PM
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Because maybe being yourself isn’t getting what you want
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 07:31 AM
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Thank you. I get really annoyed with guys who tell you that shouldn’t improve for women. Of course I’m doing it for women, I want marriage and kids
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 07:30 AM
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In general men don’t prioritize a woman’s income. The more money we make, the less of a concern. If I’m making 100k, 200k, you could work at McDonald’s and I’ll choose you over a doctor if we’re compatible
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 12:12 PM
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You should work to make your girl orgasm with just you, before you even think about bringing in a sex toy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 12:16 PM
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Politics doesn’t really matter when it comes to dating. I’m a liberal and vote straight ticket democrat. If I had my choice, I’d want a traditional woman. I’ve dated and married progressive women, I’ve also dated conservative women. I’ll take traditional all day long
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 11:16 AM
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Men should absolutely feel embarrassed if they need a sex toy. We should figure out our problem and solve it, instead of using a toy because we can’t please our partner
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 11:09 AM
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The solution is to break up with that guy and find someone more compatible with, not get a sex toy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 11:08 AM
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This maybe true, but the issue is that until you get to that level,that feeling won’t go away. The other issue is that if you don’t get to that level, you may end up dating or marrying someone because you don’t have real options
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 12:57 PM
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It’s not a serious piece of dating advice. It’s surface level nonsense. At best, it could be part of your dating strategy, but it shouldn’t be the main way to meet women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 06:05 PM
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Yes I can, when you confidently assert that women have this intuition that they can sniff out when a guy is acting. I literally see tons of videos and articles of women complaining that men were acting and switched up after marriage or after they had kids. So my point still stands. Either she is full of it, or the women crying about their boyfriends and husbands are full of it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 11:40 AM
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Most women find most guys unattractive so a lot of men have to create a personality to be attractive too women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 05:45 PM
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If this were true, I wouldn’t see women on tik tok claiming that men switched up on them. Either they are lying, or you’re lying with this post
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 05:44 PM
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You’re making the assumption you’ll be empty inside and spiral back. You can make permanent changes to yourself to be more attractive to women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 05:39 PM
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It depends on what your goals are
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 05:37 PM
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The original mistake was thinking that love was unconditional. That was a fairytale sold to us
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 03:21 PM
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I think it’s time for everyone to start looking at the entire population to solve whatever dating issues they have. If western women don’t want to marry or have kids, there’s women in other parts of the world that do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 11:42 AM
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I think it’s important to remember that pua tactics don’t work all the time. The dirty secret is that most Puas have to approach a ton of women. It mostly helps with women who were on the fence and gives guys guidance when it comes to objections that women have
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 04:31 PM
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Most approaches don’t last that long, because most women will tell you not interested within the first 10 seconds
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 01:25 AM
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I’m my opinion, the cringe part has always been the toughest part. If men knew for a fact that every rejection was a simple no, and no chance for embarrassment, more guys would want to approach. It’s the awkwardness and how to handle it that trips up most men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 01:24 AM
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I get that you can meet anywhere. My point is that your strategy in the subway is different than if you go to a bar and I don’t most guys understand this
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 05:33 PM
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When I say strategy, I'm also talking about how you meet women. most guys don't have a gameplan of where they are going to meet women and how to approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 10:26 AM
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I used to be in the camp of trying to get the most by doing the least. I’ve now come to realize you have to put in more effort, and actually have a strategy. Most guys don’t have a strategy and if they do, it sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 09:30 AM
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How does affect you? You may have to take her on dates, but if you still sleep with her, who cares
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 09:24 AM
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This is one of those problems that we don’t talk about. I think for most guys, they are trying to get the hottest girl by putting in the least amount of effort. If you told a 100 guys that they had to approach 100 women a week for 6 months to get a hot girlfriend, 95 of them wouldn’t do it, too much work. For some reason, our ability to attract women with little effort is important to us
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 09:20 AM
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It will depend on your starting point, and what your end goal is. If you’re overweight, a lot of guys aren’t getting matches and receiving a lot of rejections if the approach. Losing weight will help, but that also doesn’t mean you’re banging playboy models every week
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 09:15 AM
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I’m in the minority. The taller the better. I think it’s crazy for y’all men to want to date short women. I want my future kids to be tall as possible
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 10:47 PM
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It’s not a fact. You’re referencing a study that was debunked. The researchers misinterpreted the numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 04:59 PM
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I saw that on tik tok. A WOMAN who studies relationships said that study was flawed and said in other studies it’s about the same. Men were a little higher to leave than women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 04:57 PM
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99.9% of women don’t care about the passport bros because they are average or below average guys. What the women actually hate is the men they actually want might see they have more options so they want to put a stop to that. 5’8 guys making 70k isn’t desirable to most women, but if the 6’3 guys with a six pack start realizing they they have more options overseas, than it will be an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 10:13 PM
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This sounds great in theory, but it won't solve the actual problem if the teachers are simply virtue signaling to students. If their lesson plan to students is "just be yourself" and the right one will come along, or holding doors open will create attraction, than its pointless. It needs to be actionable advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:29 PM
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We kind of already have non monogamy if you look at the differences between how many men have children and how many women have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:32 AM
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You don't have too. I think point is, if people have a problem with the Andrew Tate's of the world and other guys like him, just simply telling his followers not to follow him isn't enough. Also telling them to go to therapy or just be yourself isn't enough. Someone needs to be able to show they can successfully attract women consistently by following whatever non red pill advice that is given. Just getting married doesn't really mean anything. There's plenty of men who are married with kids, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:36 PM
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Yes, women do approach men, but you have to be attractive physically.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:22 PM
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Technically you’re correct, but your example is the exception not the rule
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 02:33 AM
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The reason why he has professional photos is probably because taking candid photos is tough. He would need someone to take it for him and they probably wouldn’t look good, because guys don’t take photos well. It seems you’re penalizing him for going the professional route, but we already get penalized for taking bad photos ourselves. So which is it? Professional or candid?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 07:46 PM
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What exactly counts as interesting in your book?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 07:30 PM
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He’s reading, boxing, and traveling. What else would you want him to show? He’s also smiling, so what other expressions do you want to see?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 07:11 PM
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You say the first guy is boring? What exactly do want from his pics? What is exciting?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 06:29 PM
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Basically be yourself, go to therapy and maybe they might tell you to take a shower and get a haircut
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 10:27 PM
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This seems like a chronically online take. The fact is, women don’t need men for provision or protection and that knocks a lot of guys out of the mating selection. Add in dating apps, social media and the fact most men are physically unattractive to most women, a lot of guys are simply not suitable for most women. Creating third spaces doesn’t fix any of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 01:23 AM
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There’s a difference between getting turned on and finding something attractive. No woman gets horny because you make a lot of money. The red pill says get money because it will bring women into your life, but it also depends on how you use it. It’s not like you make a million dollars and at the snap of your fingers, you get women knocking on your door
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 01:25 AM
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We’re going back to the way nature was intended. I’ve said this in other post. We simply have too many men available. Women are not attracted to most men and we don’t need that many men for procreation. If you take away the need for provision and protection that men used to provide, and make marriage a pointless institution, you’re left with procreation. Women are naturally going to go for the best available guy. We no longer have wars, and men aren’t dying from manufacturing jobs like they used…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 08:15 PM
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I disagree. It’s not in your best interest to like most men. Y’all are the weaker sex. It’s for your survival to not trust us.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:21 PM
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Most women just don’t like most men. To be honest, it’s not in their best interest to like most men. They have their safety to worry about, so it’s not surprising for them to dislike men. I think most just pretend to be nice for their survival
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:47 PM
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Women literally told me this to my face
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:37 AM
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Why do people think that just meeting women in real life will be easier? They got on a dating app for a reason
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 11:36 AM
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Of course ugly people exist. I don’t know why people want to argue this point. There are people who 98% of people would find unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 11:52 PM
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No, y’all wouldn’t like most men even if violence wasn’t a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 11:50 PM
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You like most men in your friendship group. You don’t like most men in society
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 11:49 PM
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We will always be seen as a threat
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 11:48 PM
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Just because we just want sex doesn’t mean we hate women but since the original post made that assumption we hate women, I just pointed out most women don’t like most men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 11:48 PM
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No, I literally had women tell me to my face that looks didn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 11:45 PM
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Y’all are literally smaller than us, so we are seen as a threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 09:58 PM
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Even if you removed all the crime and SA, most women still wouldn’t like most men. That’s in your nature. I’m not saying that to be mean, I’m just saying biologically speaking, y’all don’t like most of us
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 09:54 PM
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Most women don’t like most men. That’s always been the case. Most men would rather just have sex with women. What has happened is the internet has finally allowed men to air their opinions and women are hearing it for the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 09:43 PM
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I did, but when I went to ask women, 90% said they didn’t care about looks. I’m being dead serious when I say that out of probably 40-45 women I asked this question, maybe 3-4 said I needed to lose weight. They would say they care way more about personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 09:38 PM
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As I get older, I’ve come to realize there is nothing wrong with gold diggers. You should be able to tell very quickly if a woman is into you or your money
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 07:48 PM
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Dating is hard if you aren’t taught the right things about attracting and being in a relationship with whatever sex you’re into. Too many people were told the wrong things and are trying go about dating in the wrong framework. I always use me as an example. My dating life is harder because I’m overweight. It would be easier if I lost weight, but I was taught looks didn’t matter to women. That was wrong, now I’m losing weight. I’m using the correct framework now
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 07:09 PM
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Your standards are only high if you cant consistently attract the type of people you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 01:31 PM
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That’s not the case. You can definitely look uglier than somebody else when you are fat, but look better when the weight is finally off. 98% of people are not at their most fittest body, so we really don’t know who is truly the most attractive. Only like 2-5 percent of people actually have abs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 01:47 AM
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You can absolutely look better than other people, even if they lose weight
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 01:33 AM
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Well it’s not easy at the beginning. For 98% of men, there is a lot of upfront work you have to do. Now if you do the hard work, it should be easier along the way
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 01:22 AM
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You can still look better than people even if everyone loses weight. A lot of people have been fat for decades and have no idea what they would look like if they did lose weight
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 01:08 AM
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How is that relevant to what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 11:57 PM
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It depends on the problems you have. You can absolutely solve your dating problems or people treating you better if you lose weight. Now if you have mental health or other problems, weightloss won’t solve it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 01:29 AM
1

Why do you think only a narrow subset of obese people would have a slimmer face?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 01:26 AM
1

Weightloss would solve a lot of the issues because woman would have more attractive guys to choose from, especially on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 01:24 AM
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The only way to truly flip the dynamic is government intervention. Make abortion illegal in all 50 states. Make access to birth control a nightmare. Make access to welfare for single moms very difficult and something else, men have to be severely punished financially for dating single moms. None of this is going to happen, so we’re just left with the dating market as is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:43 PM
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Sorry buddy, but your rant is a massive cope. Leftover men may add value to society, but in the mating game, women have determined they aren’t worthy of sex and reproducing with. Basically you’re good enough to be used to make money for rich people and your taxes will go to helping the future generation of kids that women decided you weren’t worthy of having.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:38 PM
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No, what I meant is there is simply too many guys around. I'm not saying that there is something we need to do. I'm just making the point that we have an oversupply of essentially useless men. There's nothing they can do about it. They can't self improve their way out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 05:09 PM
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Yep. This is how society existed before. Men were consistently dying in war, jobs, medical issues, drugs, crime, even locking them up. We've advanced so far in this country, that we've reduced the impact of all these events that more men are simply around.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 05:04 PM
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Here is something that all men, especially single men need to understand, by nature, we're not all meant to mate or reproduce. Women aren't biologically designed to want most men, and because women don't need men for protection and provision anymore, what's left is replication (having kids). We don't need alot of men to reproduce with women to keep the population growing, so that means we will start to see alot of men becoming lonely because survival of the species relies on mating with the best…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 04:23 PM
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Women find most men unattractive and don’t need men as much as they used too so they are less incentivized to accept a man’s advances
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 10:34 PM
2

What’s the race and age breakout?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 10:43 PM
1

The stats back me up. I went after all types of black women. Same like I do for the other races. I don’t have the same issues with other races
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 03:45 PM
1

What you find physically attractive has nothing to do with brainwashing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:36 PM
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They aren't pressured to get married and have kids at young age, plus they don't have to rely on men for financial security. They will hold out for the highest bidder, plus you have the rise of social media and dating apps. Appearances matter more than ever
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:20 PM
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I'm not sure I understand your question
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:17 PM
1

Yes. I've started to realize this the past few years. Whatever problems in dating exist, its worse in the black community
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:14 PM
1

Yep. 95% of dating life is dating white women, but I still will date black women. They just don’t date me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 01:53 PM
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To black women im ugly. Learned that in high school. What’s crazy was I was a two year starter on the football team and I was in shape, plus I’m 6’1. Their standards for attractive black men are insane
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 01:44 PM
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Conservatives probably. They get the hottest women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 11:06 PM
1

Men already have friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 12:10 AM
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Something else we have to remember that I’m guilty of forgetting is that not everyone is from the same country. The dating landscape is different from country to country
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 08:15 PM
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This annoys with guys in these conversations. They have success therefore everyone one should have success.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 12:44 PM
1

From the responses, it seems most are saying we aren'tunattractive, but unremarkable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 01:33 PM
1

You would think so, but you would be amazed at the amount of pushback I get from women on other social media platforms who swear its not about looks and its about personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 01:32 PM
1

I never said that it can't be true. I just want to keep the conversation from going off to a personality discussion. I just want to keep physical appearance as what I'm talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 01:24 PM
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Ok this response is what I constantly hear and why Im asking this question. The way I'm look at your response, women would like a guy who has the body of a supermodel, but they don't want the attitude that's typically associated with it. That's why guys think women like it, because you acknowledge it does look good, but most guys who get them typically act like jerks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 03:46 AM
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I never once brought up the OKcupid or tinder study. I never blamed women for anything. I'm asking women their opinion to see if men to step their game up in this area. I'm not sure why you are upset about this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 03:35 AM
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From what I gathered based on articles I read, data, and what I see on social media and talking to women irl, this seems to be the case that women find most men physically unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 03:31 AM
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My post has nothing to do with personalities. Its strictly talking about physical appearance, so you comment isn't really relevant to the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 03:29 AM
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Confidence, humor, and mysteriousness have nothing to do with physical appearance, so I'm not concerned about personality traits with this discussion. I get why arms are attractive, but why isn't a six pack attractive at all? Is it not aesthetically pleasing to look at?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 03:25 AM
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Why is that? I’m not sure why you think I don’t want to hear it. I literally made a post so I can get women’s feedback
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 10:43 PM
1

I'm more interested in why women rate most men lower in attractiveness and can it be fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 09:53 PM
2

In theory I would agree with your second part, but why I bring it up is because I tend to notice that if men were tell other men that losing weight, getting muscles/abs will help them, women are quick to point out that they don't care about that and that its confidence and personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 09:26 PM
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I agree with this point. I guess my question is that should we change this narrative. If women no longer need us for money, shouldn't men start to shift their focus to their appearance
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 08:51 PM
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Everything after unibrow have nothing to do with physical appearance. I agree with the first half. Do you think part of the reason is that women don't vocalize how much appearance matters to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 08:27 PM
1

What does emotional issues have to do with physical attractiveness? I agree on the weight and neckbeard.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 08:24 PM
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I agree with your take. I'm curious if you think we think like this because women don't vocalize as much as men do about the importance of looks. I believe women consistently tell us that personality and ambition is more important so men focus more on that at the exclusion of appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 07:40 PM
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I'm not concerned with EQ because that's personality related and I believe most average and below average guys have that. Why are they unremarkable? What would they need to change?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 07:12 PM
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Sort by: old Hobbies, interest, and social circle have nothing to do with physical appearance. I'm simply discussing why most women don't find most men physically appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 06:46 PM
3

What is that type?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 06:39 PM
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Do you have an answer to any of my questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 06:22 PM
2

Here's my question, why is that? Why do you think there aren't more physically attractive men?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 05:47 PM
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I keep seeing women make this claim, but than why would looks be the main determination for hookups if ya'll claim that women don't get turned on by the sight of hot guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 05:45 PM
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I have a better question, why dont women broadcast what they physically desire in a man? It’s obvious that the reason a lot of women struggle to find partners is because there aren’t enough physically attractive nice guys
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 01:50 PM
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Did I say she wouldn't be able to find a relationship? All I said is most men wouldn't want to date a women with a high body count, but that doesn't mean there aren't men out there who would. I didn't shame or insult. Most women wouldn't want to date a short guy or some fat guy, but you wouldn't consider that shaming or insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 06:39 PM
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Where did I insult any women? All I said was if a woman has a high body count, most men wouldnt care if its just a FWB. For relationships, most men wouldn't want to be with her. Its no different for women. Y'all have different standards for hookups and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 06:14 PM
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This is wrong. For FWBs, your body count doesn’t matter. She wouldn’t be relationship material
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 03:05 PM
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This is wrong. For FWBs, your body count doesn’t matter. She wouldn’t be relationship material
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 03:05 PM
3

Yes we would. We can absolutely see a woman, find her attractive, not talk to her and want to have sex with her
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 12:29 AM
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Your entire response is why guys are gravitating to Andrew Tate. Growing up, most of us were told to get a job, have friends, be financially stable, etc and that what was supposed to attract women. They now understand that none of that matters, which is what Tate is basically saying. Men have to move and think a different way, and guys like Tate are the only ones giving anything close to actionable advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 07:43 PM
5

Being married doesn't mean much. Receipts need to be shown that their way was consistently successful when they were single.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 07:08 PM
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I played college football. Out of 100 plus guys, maybe 5 were truly Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 07:07 PM
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Men like sex, men want to have relationships, they want to have families. Of course of they are going to work on themselves to attract women. I know there is this movement on social media for people to just decide that being alone is the best thing, but that isn't a goal of andrew tate followers. Men can work on themselves and become financially settled, have close friends and family, and a ton of hobbies, but that doesn't translate to being successful with women. They are looking for someone to…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 07:05 PM
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Not every guy displaying toxic masculinity is attractive, so your first point is irrelevant. I never said just displaying toxic masculinity is all you need to do. My point was that it shows way better results than whatever women are claiming they find attractive in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 05:59 PM
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Where are the receipts of attractive women they are with? You can tell them that those guys display healthy masculinity, but where are the attractive women that shows the results of adopting this mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 05:52 PM
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My opinion, women have been telling men for the last 20 years they want a soft, kind, knight in shining armor type of guy. They aren't having sex with them, especially the younger girls. The bad boys, pookies, chad's, guys who display masculinity consistently crush it. If women and other men who dislike Tate want guys to change, you need a better alternative than just be yourself, and/or go to therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 05:49 PM
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I’m as red pill as the next guy, but this chad thing needs to stop. The amount of actual chads is smaller than most guy’s realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 03:37 PM
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No, because my original point still stands. You can’t tell guys, looks don’t matter, than be upset you can’t find good looking guys on dating apps. I think women as a collective need to demand that men go to the gym more often
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 09:20 AM
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I would think so because men still would require women to look good
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 10:55 PM
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You’re talking about the okcupid study, but that was 14 years ago. My comment is based of dating apps of today, which is simply swipe right or swipe left.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 09:34 PM
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The reason why this is the case is because women refuse to be honest with what is important to them. A large majority of women consistently tell men that they don't value looks nearly as much as men do, which is not true. It's an article of faith on social media, that its about personality. They decide to go on a dating app where looks are important, and can only find a few guys they like because they find 80-90 percent of men unattractive. Its a cycle that will continue until women start demand…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 08:30 PM
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She wants muscular guys, but not gym obsessed
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/02/23 08:33 PM
1

It’s typically the opposite. Women are willing to experiment with guys they don’t see as long term partners
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 07:39 AM
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95% of time, you want to be hookup material. You can still become a boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 07:33 AM
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I agree that women no longer need a man for survival, but that’s about it. You will never convince me that women are seeking more emotional providers. Women are still deal with fboys, they’re still crying over broke guys. The problem for most guys is that they are fat, lazy, and lack social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 02:31 PM
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Part of the problem with this topic is we have different definitions of what it means to get muscles. Getting a bodybuilder physique is not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about aesthetics. Looking shredded, looking more like a swimmer, baseball player. Whenever this topic comes up, people assume guys are trying to look like CBum or some other guy on steroids to impress women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 06:29 PM
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South East Asia.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 07:40 PM
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You and I must be on different platforms because I'm seeing tons of guys getting attention from women after losing weight and getting muscles. Again, my post didn't give any indication that I didn't realize life outside of internet existed. You simply decided to make that assumption. I used to me shredded in college and now I'm obese. I still attract women because I'm tall, but I know that I would have more success if i was in shape. I just making the point that getting shape will help you. I'll…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 07:40 PM
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Where did you get the assumption that someone's life revolves around the internet and dating? I was just making the point that women do find guys who have muscles attractive. I also never made the claim that guys should be bodybuilders. All I said was getting muscles will help attract women. I never said you need to look like cbum to get women. I also said that you need to do other things to attract women besides getting muscles. It just one piece of the puzzle. Getting muscles is not a magic bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 07:25 PM
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Like I said, the best option is SEA. I was just giving another option also
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 07:09 PM
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Why do people continue to say that women don’t care about muscles. You can go on tik tok and find videos of guys who are jacked and see them match with women on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 06:45 PM
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Because they are struggling to attract women, and doing things like packing on muscle will help. There are still other things you have too, but lifting is part of the solution. You can lift for whatever reason you want, as long as you can make permanent sustainable changes. Men like women, and they always do things to try to attract them
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 06:42 PM
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To be fair, SEA might be your best option or work your butt off to get into the top 1% of earners
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 06:38 PM
2

Completely agree. If a woman needed a sex toy I would be embarrassed. I’d try to improve or just leave the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 03:24 AM
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If you have to use toys, you’re small and/or suck in bed. You can’t convince me otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 03:12 AM
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Depends on the type of man you’re attracted too
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 12:12 PM
2

I’ll never understand the logic of these types of comments. “I had success, therefore you should have success”. Also, what does go outside mean? Why is it the assumption that every guy who struggles with women sits in their house every weekend?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 02:26 AM
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I will say this over and over, there’s nothing wrong with dating apps. People simply overestimated their sexual market value and aren’t willing to put in the work to make necessary changes. They rather ‘just be yourself’ and complain about the apps
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 01:08 AM
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Isn’t the fact that he decided that this is his best option rooted in the idea that being honest hasn’t worked?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:10 PM
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Bruh, they always claim to know some 5’1 300lb guy who is crushing it with women on the level of some fashion model
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:07 PM
1

I’ve adopted the redpill 3 years ago. Fixed a lot of issues with attracting women. My lay count has increased. I’m bettering my strategy and tactics. Changing myself to be more attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 06:06 PM
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So in order to solve this problem, you have to learn what the women you are attracted to want, and get to that level. It might not be easy, but you have to be willing to put in the work
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 11:57 AM
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If a woman tells you she is celibate, she doesn’t like you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 10:49 AM
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While I understand women aren't a monolith, guys tend to look at probabilities. If 80 percent of women tend to do something, thats how we'll view women. We don't want to build our dating strategy off of exceptions or the minority viewpoint
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:47 PM
1

You upgraded.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:43 PM
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I don't believe you. Its way too convenient. Your ex boyfriend was 5'7, and the next guy you just happen to start liking is 6'5. There's no way his height wasn't a factor. What you're doing now is virtue signaling.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:38 PM
1

Ok, that makes alot of sense. This is the kind of thing guys need to know. I never understood it in this level of detail
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:34 PM
1

So you actually started liking guys even if they had all that going for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:26 PM
1

But what does super unattracted mean? You didn't answer that part
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:17 PM
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You literally admitted to catching feelings for him while dating another guy who was shorter. You can write a novel about how awesome he is, the facts remain, you left a 5'7 guy, for a 6'5 guy. You confirmed the red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:16 PM
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When you say super unattractive, what does that mean? When you say that to me, as guy, my mind goes to, he was overweight, short, with acne and you were completely turned off.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:07 PM
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Yea, we definitely have a hard time wrapping our brain that women can view us neutrally and then have our personality help us or tank us. There's no way for us to tell if we're neutral or unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 09:56 PM
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I think I’ve figured this out. Us men are black and white. We either find you physically attractive or not. If we find you attractive, your personality can increase it. If we don’t find you physically attractive, there’s nothing a woman can do with her personality. Women, it seems that there are 3 categories. Yes, no and neutral. Yes and no are the same like guys. The neutral is where we’re different. A woman doesn’t have to find you attractive, just not ugly. That’s where the personality comes …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 08:38 PM
2

Thank you, I knew I wasn’t crazy. I always say it’s virtue signaling, but I get shouted down for telling them that they aren’t being honest
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:55 PM
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I’m telling you, on social media and irl this was told to me. I don’t believe it, but you would surprised the amount of women who fight me on this point. I’m in another thread on this post where a woman left her 5’7 boyfriend for a guy 6’5 and swears his height had nothing to do with it. It was about his personality 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 02:52 PM
2

This drives me crazy. Like men know this, but when we point it out, it’s met with fierce denial and accusing us of projecting. Why don’t women admit?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 02:22 PM
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The red pill is about seeking the truth. Women always tell men that’s it’s more about personality than looks. Men are realizing this is cap and that women value looks way more than they let on. That’s what is redpill
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 02:09 PM
1

You still ended up leaving him for a guy that is nearly a foot taller than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 02:06 PM
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Wait, your ex was 5’7 and you started developing feelings for a guy who was 6’5? Jfc, you can’t find a better example of the redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 02:01 PM
1

Was the guy good looking also?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:13 AM
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This is a serious question. I’ve heard this story so many times. Where do y’all get this idea of trying to change a bad boy? Is it social media or tv? Is it some hard wiring?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 12:30 AM
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Yes. Self awareness is the key. The problem is most women lack this when giving advice and won’t be brutally honest
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:45 PM
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You always ask the guy who can get casual because he has more practice attracting women. Guys who have been in long term relationships are better for marriage advice, but have been out the game too long for dating advice
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:44 PM
1

This is also true. I’ve had guys give me terrible advice, yet I know they crush it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:42 PM
1

You actually gave good advice. You have self awareness. Most women say just be yourself and the right one will come along. You gave actionable advice that guys can use
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:39 PM
1

That’s why you ask guys who you can verify their receipts
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:38 PM
1

The statement needs more context. In general it’s correct to ask men who actually get fish consistently rather than women. It’s not that you can’t ask women advice, but there has to be a certain way to ask them where they can’t virtue signal their answer. If you ask what do women want, you’ll get a lot of woo woo surface level nonsense. It has to be more specific and real life situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:36 PM
1

What was attractive about him?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:27 PM
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Stop. It’s ok to honest that his was very attractive feature and that you upgraded. Don’t need to sugarcoat it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:26 PM
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In my 30's. Your motivation for going to the gym can be for any reason. Therapy, being more attractive, health reasons, competition. "Doing it for yourself" is just some woo woo, feel good nonsense that's not based in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 05:14 PM
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I had to stay in shape for football, so that was a benefit also. My overall point is that to attract women, us guys need to do a bunch of things. Getting in shape will make it alot easier, but you still need to other skills and traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 05:11 PM
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Getting in shape isn’t the only thing you need to do, so yes, but I would have to better with the other things I bring to the table
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 11:09 AM
2

I’ve already been shredded once when I was younger. It worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 02:24 AM
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Thank you. Too many guys don't understand that staying in shape is part of what helps you with women, not the whole thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 06:36 PM
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you should go to the gym for any reason you want. I wish would stop policing the reasons why people try to better themselves. If you want to do it for women, that's fine. Just make sure its sustainable
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 06:35 PM
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Going to the gym is overrated if you approach it as the only thing you need to do attract women. Too many guys think there's there is only one thing they should do to attract women, when you really need to do multiple things at once to be successful. i've been been shredded and overweight. Its not even close, being in the gym helped me alot, but I also dressed better, and had good social skills. Just having a six pack is not enough
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 06:32 PM
1

Most men are unattractive and there is an entitlement problem
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:42 PM
0

Your matching with men who have options. You’re not matching with the overweight guy who is 5’5.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 12:38 PM
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For Men: Most men have always been undesirable, but government policies give men more value than they deserve. For Women: women's actions dictate how men will treat them, and they refuse to accept that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 02:24 PM
1

Yes you can. Y’all are paranoid
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 08:15 PM
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I'm sorry but I don't agree. We still have women lying to us today. Our moms, family and friends try to give us advice in a world they would like us to live. If I ever have a son, he will know to not listen to his mom, or he'll end up an incel. I'm not saying women can't give good advice, but they have to have self awareness when doing it, but unfortunately, most just want to give feel good, fairytale, "just be yourself" nonsense advice. I'm becoming more convinced everyday, that women's dating …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:01 PM
1

online dating isn't any different. You're swiping on a ton of profiles for a few matches. Friends and hobbies give you a very limited selection
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 11:35 AM
5

Cold approach is a great tool. The issue is the expectations. Cold approaching is simply sales. This means that you are going to face a ton of rejection. If you approach 100 women, 80% are going to ignore you. As long as you are comfortable with a ton of rejection, its simply a numbers game. The other issue is that alot of guys dont have a sound strategy when it comes to cold approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 11:32 AM
1

Go date women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 11:26 AM
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I think you're just projecting this. I rarely see attractive men with women who are average. Its a simple numbers game. There far more attractive women than attractive women. There's simply not enough hot men for attractive women to be with
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 11:25 AM
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First off, I don’t know where you live, but I live in major city and there are plenty of bars and clubs to go to. Second, you can still approach women. Not every woman is on a dating app
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 02:01 AM
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Clubs and bars are fine. How do people think we met before online dating existed?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 01:31 AM
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This is false. You can just make it happen or try to plan it. The problem is we’re taught that relationships should just happen randomly, but if that’s the case, speed dating, match making and online dating wouldn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 01:28 AM
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I think what we want most is for her rules to be consistent. Don’t sleep with some guys on day 1 with no effort because he’s an fboy, but the boyfriend material guy has to put in effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 05:04 PM
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Most men are at best invisible to women. Unless women start demanding men take care of their appearance more, there always be a wide imbalance of attractive women to attractive men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 09:40 PM
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Dating apps aren’t worthless. The problem is men put little effort into their profile and women swipe right on a small percentage of men. Fix those two issues and dating apps would be great
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 11:42 PM
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Dating single moms. I dated one. It was about as perfect a situation you can have dating one. 50/50 custody, never asked me for a dime, told me I could discipline the child if needed. Was willing to put me first in some situations. Pretty much perfect situation you could ask for when dating a single mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 02:12 PM
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I think the difference is that for women it won’t stop you from dating a guy, if he is A+ in a bunch of different categories. For men, you can be A+ in everything, but if you’re the town bicycle, game over.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 02:06 PM
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Reviews wouldn’t work unless only men were reviewed because we would know body counts and women wouldn’t want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 03:25 PM
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the problem with treating like an addition is that if you aren't attracting the kind of person you want, you basically will struggle. At some point, if you want to be attractive, you need to put some effort and focus into attracting who you want, atleast for men. Its a falsehood to assume that women will randomly come into your world, you have to go make it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:58 PM
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I was told to put women on a pedestal, just be yourself, just wait and the right one will come along. That there is the one. Basically disney land fairytale nonsense. If you want to be good with women, you have to take action. You have to build yourself into the man that women want to be with Its not realistic to think men are just going to focus on other things when they struggle with attracting the opposite sex. At the end of the day, most people don't want to be alone, and just thinking roman…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 10:56 AM
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It’s not about insecurities, it’s the fact that men were lied to growing up. We should have been told from day one, if you want women, you have to produce and we should been developing those skills. Instead we’re taught to be simps and the red pill gives us the uncomfortable truth and now we have to re wire our brains to act accordingly
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:14 AM
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This just seems like projection. There are plenty of men who are crushing it economically who have different women in their bed everyday
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 02:36 AM
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Its hard, but I think the bigger issue is the time commitment and focus. If men truly focused on getting into the top 20%, it would probably take 3-5 years of focus and dedication. How many guys want to do that to attract women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 07:46 PM
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There are a guys that do it, it’s not that many
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 07:36 PM
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It won’t end well, but the lie is usually for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 03:52 PM
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Depends on the lie and his actions while being together with that woman
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 03:52 PM
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I’m becoming more and more convinced that women just want a performance. If you can sell a dream, whether you truly can or not, is all that matters. A lot of them are more concerned with virtue signaling, and I see why they fall for fboys.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 09:51 AM
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There’s no way you said a majority of guys are pleasant to look at. I’m a guy and I’ve never heard a woman say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 09:36 AM
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Depends on what you define as drastically. Depending on debt he holds, and area, it’s a big difference
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 12:18 AM
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To be fair, I think some of this has to do with how women respond to attractive men versus men they may see as neutral or if men have made a physical change like weight loss
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:21 PM
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A study from okcupid came out about 13 years ago saying that women found 80% of male users as unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:18 PM
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Do you have a six pack? Are making over 6 figures a year? Have taken professional pictures for dating apps? If the answer is no, you’re not done improving
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 12:46 PM
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That makes sense. I probably shouldn’t have said not attractive, more like neutral or indifferent.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:49 PM
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Here's my question, if you were single, do you think you would react differently if a guy you thought was attractive approached you, as compared to a guy you thought wasn't physically attractive or atleast not your type? For example, let's say you thought ryan reynolds was attractive, so a guy who looked liked him approached you at a bar or someplace like a concert, would you be more receptible to the approach as compared to a guy you didn't find all that attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 06:30 PM
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This right here, is probably the best explanation I’ve ever seen from women on this issue. You actually have a good detailed explanation with examples. This how you give great advice to guys. No virtue signaling, no fairytale nonsense. I learned a lot from this response
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:58 PM
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This comment is why listening to women is pointless. Claims to find all bodies after getting to know them, but just so happens to date a GQ model looks, but you like him more for is personality. Do you actually read what y’all type?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:50 PM
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You have two options. Either lower your standards or improve yourself to get the outcomes you want
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 11:12 PM
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My matches on dating apps say otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 03:24 PM
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You would to improve yourself if you currently weren’t achieving your goals
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 09:24 AM
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Currently working on it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 09:22 AM
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Connecting with people is not fairly easy for most guys, so stop making it seem like anyone just do it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 04:19 AM
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I would suggest if you’re going to rely on online dating, you have to start caring about your appearance just like women do. That means getting in shape, skin care routine, fix your teeth, grooming and good style
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 04:17 AM
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This is answer shows why asking women advice is frustrating. Every guy knows a bunch of guys who crush it with women, and empathy isn’t exactly their top quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 04:14 AM
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This right here. I think the biggest problem for 90% of men is trying to get a number and a date. We lack abundance most of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 04:12 AM
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I’m overweight. That’s my issue. If I can get down to 12-15 bodyfat, I’d be crushing it because I’m already 6’1
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 04:08 AM
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You can go to the gym for women or any reason you want. Getting in shape helps attracts women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 04:55 PM
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You only consider this after you have exhausted all other avenues to make yourself attractive. If you don’t have a six pack and make atleast 6 figures, you don’t even think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 12:03 AM
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The reason is that people, especially women, want to feel that they are unique and special. They don't want to be put in the same category as everyone else. It's like politics. I'm black, statistically, we vote for democrats, but if you say that out loud, especially on social media, people will push back and say you can't put everyone in a box. Women like taller men, especially over 6ft. Men prefer thinner women, or least not overweight, it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 12:21 PM
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She's a boss babe because she is very concerned about her career. In theory she should be satisfied just staying home watching the kids, and he goes and makes the money, but she wants him home, so she can go back to modeling. That's why said, guys like Tom Brady shouldn't marry career focused women for this exact reason. This isn't the first time his career was an issue in the marriage. Successful women are not marriage material for guys like Brady. They need to marry a guy below their level who…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 01:52 AM
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She wants it all. Tom Brady, is a workaholic, rich, successful athlete. I can imagine that part of what she was attracted to was his passion and work ethic. Now she wants him to change into being a stay at home dad essentially. It doesn't work like that. If you want ambitious men, they don't just suddenly stop and turn into the guy who waits in the school line to pick up the kids. If that is what she wanted, she should have married a guy who had a typical 9-5 job, but I imagine she wouldn't be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 01:37 AM
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What it tells us is that when you are a very successful man, who can afford to take care of his family on his dime, don’t date boss babes. Date and marry women who will be happy being a stay at home mom. Both of these people tried to have it all and it burned them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:08 PM
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I’m 6’1 so this isn’t my area, but your personal experience doesn’t mean much. It’s more about the numbers. We don’t know the tactics, your status, financial or ethnicity. We don’t have any receipts, just a random comment on a forum
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 12:15 AM
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It’s also being told the truth about female nature works and what it takes to attractive to women. A lot of guys were fed false narratives about how dating works, we ended up making bad choices in how we dealt with women. For example, the advice “just be yourself” is probably the worst advice ever given to men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 09:21 PM
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You have to make compromises and look into his dating history. How does he act with family and friends. How does live in his own place? What are his future goals. What red flags are he showing currently?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 02:49 PM
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Yes. Men, especially white men, have been going overseas for decades to find a wife. This isn’t something new. The idea that foreign women wouldn’t date or marry American men is laughable
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 09:38 PM
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What women mean is they want you to care about there feelings. They don’t really care about our feelings. Well, that’s American women. I can’t speak for foreign women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 09:27 AM
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They will only start looking better if we go to other countries, or put back in place the obstacles that women had. You need to get rid of dating apps, social media, reinstate abortion bans, limit birth control and women would have to re-access the type of men they deal with. None of that is going to happen, so men will need to get richer, learn game or find a woman from another country
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 09:25 AM
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This forum probably needs to add nationalities to our names. One thing I’ve learned is that dating culture is very different among countries and we’re talking past each other a lot with these questions
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 01:57 PM
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She doesn’t make an argument for why he should date older women. She simply says he should.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/09/22 03:38 PM
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Nope, because you can kick him out at any point. You have the leverage and that’s a bad deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 11:18 AM
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Men should never move in with their girl if their name isnt on the lease or mortgage
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 11:17 AM
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Women can’t make up their minds. They’re strong and independent one day, but their frontal lobe isn’t developed so they don’t understand why they’re attracted to older men the next day. Nobody is forcing these women to engage with these older men, but we won’t acknowledge that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 11:16 AM
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Thank you. Their logic never made sense. What's also weird is they never ask the question, why do these women even entertain him? He dates models and actresses. These women aren't poor and they have options. You can't tell me these women couldn't choose ann athlete or celebrity that's close to their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:35 PM
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I know and I said it’s small minority of women who approach. Maybe 2-5 percent. That’s not a good percentage to base your strategy. Men have to approach and must adjust accordingly if they aren’t having success
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 10:33 AM
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It’s a small minority of women who approach. Not exactly smart great percentages to include in your dating strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 09:49 AM
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Because for men atleast, you have to action. Women aren’t just going to come into your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 10:29 PM
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You don’t have to pretend. You can make sustainable changes
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 10:27 PM
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You need to improve, change, fix or switch up what you’re doing, if you are struggling with dating
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 10:26 PM
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Guys, I can’t stress this enough. Don’t listen to anyone who gives you this advice. It is hands down the worst advice ever given to men. If being yourself was working, you wouldn’t be asking for advice. Get in the gym, get money, improve your social skills, work on your approach anxiety and get advice from men who can consistently attract women. Just be yourself is fairytale nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 10:25 PM
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Speed dating is simply another source to meet women. Guys have to realize you need to source from multiple areas. Online, social circle, cold approach, etc. unless your just supremely skilled at one of those options, you need to use all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 08:03 PM
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I was exaggerating a little bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 07:59 PM
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It’s not spiteful. It just means you want to be the guy she’s obsessed over. She’s willing to come over at 2 in the morning. She’s wants to get on your page
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 07:31 PM
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Be the man that women go to therapy for. Never be the guy she dates after going to therapy. That’s the goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 06:55 PM
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I understand your point, but I think part of the issue with your question is you assume blue pillers actually want to debate. They are just saying you are wrong and there shouldn’t even be a debate. That’s why they never have stats or bring up exceptions because to them, discussing female nature or the dating market is not something they think about. They just accept whatever talking points their friends, family or society has told them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 01:45 PM
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I agree with all of this. I’m overweight and I don’t have game to pull a thin woman, so I have improve myself or date an overweight woman
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 12:48 PM
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The issue is that there are other women who say they want men to approach them in public. That’s why I said women need to get on the same page.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 05:47 PM
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Well unfortunately, until women as a group can come to a complete consensus on how, when, and where to cold approach, that the world we live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 05:32 PM
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Guys get obsessed, but they go about it in the wrong way. You have to cold approach more, take better pics for dating apps, better their social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 05:12 PM
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I agree. The problem is that the advice is really more for women than men. It’s sounds better because the alternative means your acknowledging you aren’t good enough
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 03:59 PM
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The problem is most people have repeated bad experiences because their approach to dating has been wrong. If you’re a fat slob, you’re going to have bad experiences until you fix your weight. If you refuse to improve your social skills, you’ll have bad experiences. A lot of people are just trying “to be yourself” and the right one will come along advice which is dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 03:15 PM
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I worked at a gay bar for a few months. I was told gay guys know which team you play for, so i rarely got hit on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 03:49 AM
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The information you’re giving is very basic. We don’t know their age, location, or their dating history. Getting laid every once in a while is a lot different than getting laid consistently. Just because you have a girlfriend doesn’t mean you’re good with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 09:27 PM
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Because for a lot guys, just being yourself isn’t working. They need to make changes
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:39 PM
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Oh god, this is just some high level Disney fairytale nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:29 AM
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No it’s “just be yourself” is the number one cop out answer
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:27 AM
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Be confident means having competence. When you have an interaction with a woman, can you lead and know how to handle the situation. It’s having solid frame and knowing how to handle their shit test.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:26 AM
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Well for your example, if the man has the ability to attract women with low body count, I’m not sure that’s an issue than
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:47 AM
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You should do cold approach. In fact as men, we need to source from everywhere possible to meet women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 02:59 AM
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The first thing that should be done is stop lying and telling women fairytale nonsense. There isn’t the “the one”. Making money won’t make you attractive to the type of men you desire. You most likely aren’t a 10 or a queen. You’re just average. The type of men you desire want a certain type of woman. Your currency is at its highest the younger you are. Having fun in your twenties isnt a recipe for finding a quality guy. All men want sex, regardless if they like you or not. Stop making dating st…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 02:56 AM
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I understand that. I think the issue most don’t acknowledge this. Most virtue signal and when see their actions, we ended up trying to reconcile the inconsistency. The other thing is when men bring up this inconsistency, we get shouted down from those sane women calling us misogynistic, jealous, or simply told to go date men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 12:33 AM
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Super majority are not sexually active and there is data to back that up
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:40 PM
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Women will say they want men to be a certain way, than you look at who they have sex and it doesn’t match up
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:38 PM
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If this were true, she wouldn’t be on Reddit asking this question.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 12:23 PM
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As guys, we’re just wired differently
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:34 PM
1

90-95 percent of guys aren’t born good looking enough to succeed
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:29 PM
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Why are you assuming the guy wants to screw everything that moves? There are plenty of guys who want relationships and marriage but aren’t good at attracting women. Therapy won’t fix his ability to attract a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 04:16 AM
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Ok, so is therapy going to teach a guy how to take the right pictures for a dating app, how to text, how to run a date, how to cold approach? How to handle a woman who is shy, or handle a woman who crosses boundaries. How to physically escalate?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:32 AM
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I will die on the hill. Too many people act like therapy is the end all be all. I’m not against it, but it’s not going to solve your dating problems as a guy. Attracting women is skill game that requires interacting with women. Laying on a couch, talking to a person isn’t going to fix that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:15 AM
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Going to therapy isn’t going to fix a guy’s dating issues. That’s not what therapy is for.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:12 AM
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Not sure how you arrived at that conclusion, but ok 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 01:09 PM
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I’m not sure telling men who follow the manosphere that their problems aren’t as big as women problems, therefore they need to stop listening to people in the manosphere is that great of a strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 11:44 AM
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The manosphere exist because guys were given the wrong information about how women are and given the wrong approach. Men see who women actually have sex with and who they cry over. If you don’t like the manosphere, tell women to stop sleeping with toxic men. Also give better advice than “just be yourself” and “go to therapy“. The haters of the manosphere simply don’t have better answers than surface level nonsense advice, so the manosphere gives men actionable advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 11:40 AM
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Yes. They are writing them because of looks. Maybe they are too short, too fat, receding hairline, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 11:37 AM
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Because they can. We here advice all the time that women like men with confidence. They want men who are assertive and career oriented. This is 80-85 percent of women across the entire world
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 11:36 AM
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Thank you. This is one of the frustrating things about this topic. There are plenty of men who are average, well adjusted and socially adept. These are the boring guys. The ones will look last
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 11:34 AM
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What you need to do is figure out why you’re struggling and make changes that are sustainable. Just being yourself and getting the same results seems really dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 01:35 AM
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There isn’t one piece of advice that will fix your problems. For most guys, there are multiple things that are missing from your toolbox. You need to figure what those areas are and fix them. Just being yourself isn’t going to work and just dealing with women who are into you doesn’t solve your problem if you don’t find them attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 01:21 AM
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Never ever listen to anybody who gives the advice “just be yourself”.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 01:15 AM
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It’s simple, you guys are overestimating the amount of women with this mindset
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 09:39 AM
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This is bad a faith question. Most men in this comment section are average men and you know that. This issue that most women are average but they think they deserve top tier
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 09:34 AM
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It’s the opposite. Men have learned that women see men differently when it comes to sex. You’re a sucker to wait if she hasn’t made previous men wait
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 10:37 PM
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That’s a different conversation. I agree with you to certain point. My original point is that there is nothing wrong with asking for qualities from your mate you don’t possess. This issue is continuing to demand them when you can’t get it and refuse to raise your level to attain that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 11:48 AM
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That’s a different conversation. I agree with you to certain point. My original point is that there is nothing wrong with asking for qualities from your mate you don’t possess. This issue is continuing to demand them when you can’t get it and refuse to raise your level to attain that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 11:48 AM
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You actually can demand that if you want. The question is can you get it. You have short women who demand their man be over 6 feet
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:44 PM
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There’s no data to back this up. You’re using your own personal experience as evidence of something that isn’t happening
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:42 PM
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Women give terrible advice when you ask open ended questions that allow them to virtue signal. Ask them questions that put them in a box or something thing related their history and it forces them to be more truthful
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 10:49 PM
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I was just using dating apps as an example. My point was just simply dealing with people who find you attractive isn’t the complete answer
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 02:14 PM
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Any guy who says they got muscles but didn’t get any girls had nothing else going for them and had unrealistic expectations. Just because you get ripped doesn’t mean girls are just going to open their legs for you. Having a great physique will make it easier to get and hold her attention longer, but you still need proper game. Attracting women is a skill game and getting a six pack is just a part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 10:57 AM
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For 90% of people the issue isn’t finding people who find you attractive. The people who are struggling with dating want too attract a different type of person. I’m on dating apps. I’m getting matches from single moms. I don’t want single moms, I want childless women, so I have to make myself more attractive to younger childless women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 10:49 AM
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This is true. My parents taught me that nonsense and didn’t help being born in the south where it’s part of our society
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 01:39 PM
1

It means you’ll struggle with women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 08:00 PM
1

You want a woman to worship the ground you walk on or lock you inside a burning car. Under no circumstances should you ever want a woman to be bored of you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 06:30 PM
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Piece of advice. When you give this generic advice, give examples. Be confident is just feel good nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 12:37 AM
1

How? You match, exchange a few text messages to make sure they seem legit. Get their number and set up a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:24 AM
1

You’re still going to meet that person in real life
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:09 AM
0

Yes. Your question is wrong. There isn’t any difference between meeting in person on an app than if you met in person originally
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:08 AM
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If I met you at a bar, how do you know that’s the real me. A date and meeting d at someone in a different environment can be two different people
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:06 AM
2

How is going on a date with someone from an app different than going on a date from someone you meet “organically”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:05 AM
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There isn’t a difference. If you match with someone, you’ll eventually meet them in real life. I don’t understand how people arrived that the idea that meeting someone irl from a dating app is different than meeting someone from a cold approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:03 AM
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Well there are better strategies and tactics that will help guys that work on most women. Humans aren’t as complex and different as we like to believe. For example, why is it universally accepted that 95% of women are attracted to confidence? Why do women prefer men who are taller? There are a lot things that carry over that you can create a system for.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 04:16 PM
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So it’s the keeping you on edge part that acts as the hook? You never know where you stand in the relationship? Plus the good sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 07:48 PM
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What do you mean by emotional roller coaster?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 07:12 PM
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Q4W: if you have been or are currently in a “toxic” relationship, was/is it the sex that kept/keeps you in it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 07:06 PM
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Which is my point. No need to be vulnerable to your girlfriend or wife. They can’t accept it or want to deal with it. Just talk to other people who can help you. If you have to put conditions on how your partner can open up to you, that says you can’t handle it. Most women can’t, so just don’t bother telling her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 03:36 AM
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Yes, shouldn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 06:44 PM
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Wrong. That is what we were taught, but isn’t how it works. Women can complain all they want to their partner. Us men should talk to anybody else but our partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 06:43 PM
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When I say not y too express vulnerability, I meant to your partner. Talk to your friends, family or therapist. Women cant deal with your problems and will be turned off. She’s not there for you to have someone to listen too
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 05:50 PM
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My comment was in reference to being in a relationship, not dating
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 03:27 PM
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This comment goes to show why men shouldn’t open up. Look at all these conditions that you put. It’s just silly for men to even take that chance. They should talk to a therapist, family or friends. Talking to their woman is too risky
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 03:16 PM
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There’s no reason to express or show vulnerability. Work those issues out on your own or with a therapist. If you need to go to a therapist, you shouldn’t be in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 03:13 PM
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Get to 10-15% bodyfat. That will work for 90% of women. Ignore any woman who says they prefer dad bods. They will take your shredded body
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 11:26 AM
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There’s a few different reasons. There are way more attractive women than men. It’s not even close. There simply isn’t enough attractive men to go around. 90% of women don’t make the first move so they pretty much only deal with the men who show interest. Most guys are going to shoot atleast above their pay grade. Men also need a bunch of other traits to be attractive, so we have devote more attention to different areas. Women will focus more on looks because that’s what we look for.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 12:09 AM
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You will never go wrong with women just getting to and staying between 10-15 percent bodyfat
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 01:35 AM
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No, the 80/20 rule is the 80% of women find 20% of men attractive on dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 01:21 AM
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No it means that the 80/20 rule is true
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 01:11 AM
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Tinder says that 80 percent of women go after the top 20 percent. Hinge, the top 60 percent go after the top 10 percent. Those stats are more recent than that okcupid study
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 01:07 AM
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He’s 6’3, famous, rich, and funny. That’s literally the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 11:57 PM
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Dating apps have entered the conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 11:52 PM
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I’m not sure what you mean. This is has always been the case. You guys date men who are confident, assertive, tall and successful
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:15 AM
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Because we’re different. Y’all think confidence and assertiveness is sexy. We don’t. We care about weight. Y’all care about height. We care are your femininity, y’all care about our ability to provide and protect. Your career doesn’t mean that much to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 02:20 AM
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This could be because men have experience telling women the truth and they can accept or handle. I mean we’re told not tell your wife or girlfriend she looks fat in a dress even if it’s true. Lying to women wasn’t just pull out of thin air
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 02:13 AM
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Ok 95% of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 11:44 PM
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This isn’t true. There are some guys who could be chad if they were at 10-12% bodyfat, with a good haircut and skin routine. Now it’s very true few guys will put in the work to achieve that status, but it’s possible for some guys to become chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:44 AM
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If a girl has sex with you, she is attracted to you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:37 AM
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I’m not bitter. More just frustrated. I was lied to by mostly women just telling me to be myself instead of taking action to make myself more attractive to women. I made decisions that I didn’t need to make and probably would be even further along in my career. Just be yourself is the most destructive advice you can give men and you can’t change my mind. If you want to be successful with women, you must take action and make it sustainable
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:27 AM
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Are they marrying them and having families
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 09:25 PM
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Dating apps are fine. Most guys hate them because they refuse to put in any effort when it comes to taking pics and not writing a good bio. The other issue is most guys are overweight, grooming is crap at best and most don't dress well. Yes, if you're short, you will struggle a little bit more, but the reality is 95% of guys who struggle on dating apps are lazy as fuck and I say that as a guy who takes crap pictures, is overweight, but my saving grace is that I'm tall. Another issue is most guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 12:45 AM
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