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bivukaz/r/seduction14/09/16 01:34 PM
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Now that I have read all of those comments I cant say that I dont have AA anymore. If I need to take escalation into consideration, then what I do is not really flirting after all. Dont believe that I approach all the most beautiful girls in the club everytime I go. I dont really do cold approaches. I'm lucky enough to have a very wide social circle in a city with parties every week end. I usually meet girls through friends. At parties/clubs/... I casually talk with people I meet but I rarely go…
/r/seduction14/09/16 10:50 PM
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This comment was a wild ride from start to finish. You make a lot of good points. Another point you are making is that you probably haven't really tried to flirt and acted confident without even knowing. Never really contemplating how to escalate, because you never really thought it would be any point doing it. This could prove to be a huge issue, because once you set your mind to escalating, suddenly you have "everything" to lose. And you might suddenly fail HARD when approaching girls...which …
/r/seduction14/09/16 10:28 PM
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a lot. Thanks for this comment. I read this form other comments "We sat on her bed then she moves closer to me, grabbed my hand and kiss me." so you've had that experience. was it weird ? It was not. I knew that and i knew what was going to happen. The thing about what I said is the fact that she did everything. I was petrified about what was going to happen. It was the first time a girl asked me to come back to her place. I had no idea how to behave, and what to do. Thanks to alcohol, i managed…
/r/seduction14/09/16 10:19 PM
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Because I feel that it is unwanted. I feel like this is something forbidden. I feel like I should not do that AT ALL. I feel like this is disrespectful and that I'm not worthy of doing it. I feel like rushing into someones intimacy and I would be horrified to be the guy who makes a girl unconfortable like that. In junior high / high school, i was 15-20kg heavier, with braces (different kinds from 14 years old to 19 years old) and heavy acne. I got rejected over and over and in gruesome ways. I n…
/r/seduction14/09/16 07:34 PM
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This is a perfect example of what I think is super weird. I could never do that to a girl without feeling like I should not. Everything you described here are things I would never do. I know I'm wrong (and that's why I am here, to try to understand why) but "Slide your fingers from the inside of her arm to her hand and let it fall in." sounds soooo weird to me. I feel like if I did that, the girl would instantly pull her arm out and tell me "what the fuck are you doing" I did this before ... wit…
/r/seduction14/09/16 06:45 PM
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With all the answers in this thread and yours, I feel like I'm starting to understand the problem better. Maybe the fact that I think that this is weird is because I dont show my interest and I dont know how to do it. So escalating feels weird to me because i'd expect her to go "what the hell are you doing" I think I flirt unconsciously. In fact, maybe I dont flirt at all. Now that I think about it, that might be part of the problem. Maybe if talking is easy to me it's because I dont expect it t…
/r/seduction14/09/16 06:28 PM
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Well I hope you are right. Thanks for your answers though. There are the most useful I read.
/r/seduction14/09/16 05:45 PM
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I just fucking hope that the first time I will try, nothing wrong will happen. Or I will turn into a puddle of pure shame.
/r/seduction14/09/16 05:33 PM
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this feels natural. This is the part I need to work on. For me this feels weird af.
/r/seduction14/09/16 05:30 PM
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The girls i've been with told me the same kind of things. Apparently I have all the cards in hands to be a player, but I dont know what to do. So when they (or you) tell me stuff like that, my reaction is usually this (without the blue screen)
/r/seduction14/09/16 05:29 PM
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The weird part is that I'm not even affraid of being rejected. I'm afraid that she gets weirded out like "what the hell are you doing?!" The thing that terrifies me the most is the fact that, since this is apparently obvious for most people, if I do something wrong, the girl will know that I have no idea what I'm doing. I'm really self conscious about it and the idea of leaning in for a kiss and having the girl looking at me weird terrifies me more than her laughing at my face like "you thought …
/r/seduction14/09/16 05:18 PM
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Ok then. So the problem is not that this is weird, but the fact that I THINK it's weird. I find it weird to not tell it. I mean, we are talking and talking and not talking about the interesting part. The fact that you and I want to kiss each other. So I have to guess it, and make a move when I think I guessed right? I dont say you are wrong (who am i to say such a thing) but this is so weird. So girls are like birds who shows a certain kind of colored feathers to indicate they are ready for mati…
/r/seduction14/09/16 05:07 PM
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There is often a certain moment when both people know the kiss is about to come: her body language is all green lights, the conversation dies down, you're probably alone or no one is paying attention to the two of you. It's just you two in an imaginary bubble and there is a palpable vacuum in the air. When you are paying attention it will be very obvious when you get to this moment, pull her in close and kiss her assertively. This is the closest I ever been to understand. I've been dying for an …
/r/seduction14/09/16 05:00 PM
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harassment is a strong word. If you are both flirting it cant be harassment. But she can consider it weird, awkward or uncalled for. I guess.
/r/seduction14/09/16 04:51 PM
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Well I get that. I was just blinded by the fact that I would have never guessed that she wanted me. I saw her flirting with me but I was more like "naaah, I must be dreaming". And since I had no idea what to do anyway, ... well. The interesting part about my story is that, when she asked me if I wanted to come home with her, I knew what that meant. I knew exactly what that meant. I had no idea how to act on it. This is where I feel like I am a alien. Everyone appears to know what to do in this s…
/r/seduction14/09/16 04:45 PM
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it sounds like to me your idea is to throw a flirtatious line which indicates you want to make out and see how she responds right? Exactly. I just dont get how you can just go for it.
/r/seduction14/09/16 04:35 PM
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Ok well I guess I'm not made for flirting then. The whole post you linked is absolute sorcery for me. I would never do that. It's just way to weird for me. I'm not affraid or whatever. It's just that stuff like that are things I do to a girl I'm already dating. Not a girl I just met. This is the weirdest thing ever. I think the thread is over. Thanks for your comment.
/r/seduction14/09/16 04:30 PM
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we were talking about whatever ... without ever mentioning it So yeah maybe my problem is that i'm genuinely interested in the conversation. I could not talk to someone with the idea of kissing her "without mentioning it" I'm not judging you at all (my english is broken, I dont want to to understand things wrong). My point is that the situation that you described never happened to me. For me it's more like : For example in one situation we were talking about whatever and our faces kept getting c…
/r/seduction14/09/16 04:24 PM
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So you do it out of the blue then? Like you are in the middle of talking about whatever and you just try and kiss her? I feel like I would get slapped if I did that. Like, if a girl did this I'd be so weirded out ! Even if I found her sexy or whatever, i'd be like "what the hell?" I think in my position it's doomed to fail then. Because it is so weird for me that I would ruin it. Apparently it is supposed to be obvious, natural, easy, ... and for me just kissing someone out of the blue feels so …
/r/seduction14/09/16 04:11 PM
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This was not out of the blue. She flirted with you and probably gave you hints that you missed. So maybe this is it then. People give hints until one of them makes an "out of the blue" moves. Maybe the part I am missing is the "out of the blue" one. I will give you more details about the night I met her, maybe you will understand why I dont understand it. First of all, and this is not humble bragging, she was gorgeous. Like the kind of girl who is the hottest girl out here anywhere she goes. I w…
/r/seduction14/09/16 04:03 PM
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You dont get my point. I dont ask for exact lines or moves to do. I know that every situations are different. Steps differ from person to person, situation to situation, and they are not planned. I get that. I fully understand that. It's just that everytime I flirt with a girl, I hit this barrier of "She is definitely interested in me, what now". On this sub, I see that most people problems are approaching, confidence, chatting, flirting, ... And they never talk about the rest because it's obvio…
/r/seduction14/09/16 03:48 PM
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Ok. I still dont get it. But I think I understand better what my problem is. I'm looking for a vocal validation or something. Let's say I'm talking to girl and everything is going well, we are both showing interest. I just dont know how/why/when should I do what you said. I dont understand how you can just "move your mouth towards her mouth" without ... doing something before (saying something, ...) this is the part I miss. I'm sad because even you guys seems to dont understand my problem. I mus…
/r/seduction14/09/16 03:43 PM
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I understood your comment but I miss a part. So let's say I'm talking with this girl and I can feel she "likes" me (IoI, etc etc) what should I do to get to your part? You instantly starts by "so you kiss her and ..." that's it? If I feel she likes me I just go for a kiss without warnings? This is the part that is missing. Just the part between "I think she likes me" and closing. Should I say something like "I want to kiss you" ? Do I just go for it without asking or saying a word? It feels weir…
/r/seduction14/09/16 03:35 PM
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I know for a fact that she is lesbian. She a good friend of mine since last summer, she always dated girls. I never flirted with her because she is in my group of friend, and I like her as friend and seek nothing more. She was living with a friend of hers for a year because her parents kicked her out when she came out to them. So no, she didnt told me that to curve me. I just didnt know she liked to fool around with dudes from time to time. The fact that she is lesbian is unrelated to my comment…
/r/seduction14/09/16 03:27 PM
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You told me the steps without even realizing it. To me : which was when I smiled at her and without saying a word went for the kiss eventually our conversations lead to our heads coming closer together where it ends with us kissing each other I got up and asked her "what she would do if I kissed her", she said "I don't know" which was when I went for it Are example of what I am missing. I know there are no check lists or definite steps. But there are "steps". You dont walk up to a girl you never…
/r/seduction14/09/16 03:23 PM
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I dont talk to girl endlessly. When I say that I'm good at conversation I mean it. I dont talk a lot. I ask good questions, let her talk, ask questions about what she said, slide in some jokes/banter/wit and that's about it. I just dont know the next step. When I say that the only thing I do is ask for a number, it's because I dont know anything else. I dont talk with a girl for 8h and ask for a number. No. I have casual conversation with girls and when I see interest (not after 8h of talking) I…
/r/seduction14/09/16 03:02 PM
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The thing I miss is the part in between "having a great talk and thinking she is interested" and "kiss/makeout/..." You know for me it feels like those memes : step 1 : approach her step 2 : get the conversation going. (Jokes, banter, teasing, ....) step 3 : ????????????? step 4 : make out. I just dont get it. There is this kind of "taboo" about this. Nobody says anything about that part. Maybe that part doesnt exist and that's why nobody talks about it. Example : Last saturday I was at the club…
/r/seduction14/09/16 02:40 PM
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I'm anxious to go to a club because of my age, I'm worried it would be weird for a 23 year old to go to a club since its usually 18-20 year olds. Nope, forget about that. 23 years old is the perfect age to go to clubs. I'm French and 24 and I've been partying since a long ass time and I'm not planning to stop. Most people I meet are 19-30 years old and everyone blends in just fine.
/r/seduction08/09/16 01:54 PM
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You first need to join a social circle. And it's easier than you think. Well, easy if you : live in a bigger city and like EDM. I know this because one of my (now) friend did that and it worked. He was new in town and liked to party. So, go on Facebook then go to the "events" part. Find events that you would enjoy (whether it's d'n'b, dubstep, trap, transe, whatever...) Leave a comment on the event page like "Hi, I'm new to town and I wanted to see Dj Random playing since forever ! Who wants to …
/r/seduction08/09/16 01:51 PM
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Bro I didnt even talked to 40 girls in my life. Remember that the master failed more time than the newbie ever tried. Godspeed my friend.
/r/seduction15/08/16 12:24 PM
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the only guys who take them to heart are the empathetic ones who probably weren't the problem to begin with. Very well said.
/r/seduction22/06/16 12:20 PM
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Hey bro, it will suck. I mean, you will suck. I'm not saying that to be mean but because it is the truth. So the best thing you can do is enjoying it as much as possible. Be a little "selfish". It is your first time, your moment. Just enjoy it for you since you probably wont fuck her 50 minutes fifty shades of grey style anyway.
/r/seduction07/05/16 01:30 PM
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"I'm not jealous"
/r/seduction07/05/16 01:25 PM
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This is the answer I was looking for when I opened this thread. Thanks mate.
/r/seduction29/02/16 10:46 AM
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