bladesire Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

Upvotes	Comment on	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
1	Ultra-feminist friend on Facebook posts this. Thoughts? I think it means MRAs have a PR problem.	/r/MensRights	22/10/14 06:58 PM
0	Interactive Map Shows Men Getting Financially Pummeled by Obamacare The OPs post doesn't say anything but "Look at this data and interpret it my way." His claims are absolutely unfounded. I could accept a set of sources that describe the data and it's meaning, but I think that a post saying "Look at these numbers and how they suck for us!" without any context is worthless propaganda.	/r/MensRights	19/06/14 11:39 PM
-2	Interactive Map Shows Men Getting Financially Pummeled by Obamacare Presumably Presumption. Your assertions are still as yet unfounded. EDIT: I'm not saying we should ignore these facts. But we cannot assert that men are being unfairly pummeled without evidence that it is, in fact, unfair.	/r/MensRights	19/06/14 08:13 PM
0	Interactive Map Shows Men Getting Financially Pummeled by Obamacare Yeah but women in Texas were pummeled beforehand... I'm counting 12 states with < 0% increases, and 16 with 0-40% increases in the average premiums. I downloaded the chart and women are receiving an average of 31% increase, while men are seeing an average of a 50% increase. Furthermore, many more women had far higher premiums PRIOR to the change. Is this men being pummeled unfairly? Is this a "pummeling" ?Your assertions are as yet unfounded.	/r/MensRights	19/06/14 07:46 PM
3	[META] Disappointed in the actions of the community I'm late to the game, but I support the OP. I've long felt this sub (and the MRM) has been plagued by nastiness for no good reason.	/r/MensRights	10/04/14 03:45 PM
17	Woman dumps three babies in a dumpster, two of them die, only given 18 month sentence. Actually I believe that what they care about is not this woman's feelings but the use of gendered insults that perpetuates innately the classification of sexes as one thing or another. The argument is that the word "bitch" is harmful to women everywhere, for a variety of reasons. It has little to do with this woman specifically.	/r/MensRights	31/01/14 03:52 PM
3	Need advice for Feminazi teacher I'm complaining that you didn't give the guy a good suggestion. If he listens to the advice above, he'll likely not only lose the argument, but get embarrassed.	/r/MensRights	17/01/14 08:59 PM
1	Need advice for Feminazi teacher Personally, I think you'll have a hard time defeating the idea that "the patriarchy was responsible..." considering that the patriarchy is also "responsible" (insofar as an abstract concept describing the systems of oppression and dominance that has evolved over millenia can be responsible) for most Men's Rights issues. I recommend you go and read some Feminist literature alongside all the Mens' Rights stuff and come to your own informed conclusions. Asking for advice on an intelligent argument …	/r/MensRights	17/01/14 08:44 PM
3	Need advice for Feminazi teacher This would be pretty soundly defeated by the suggestion that innate differences (NOT inequalities) in the sexes' biological and physiological make-up promoted systems of power and oppression that developed into Patriarchy. In today's society, such systems have made it such that men and women are not PRACTICALLY equal. If you want to help this guy figure out how to debate feminist points, this is a weak attempt. What does he do if the teacher doesn't respond in the way you suggested?	/r/MensRights	17/01/14 08:32 PM
-1	What does it mean when feminists say men's issues are feminist issues? The fact that you came here and acted as though it was not already proved that men get screwed over by systematic misandry I didn't act that way - I was defending feminism. You seem to think I came here specifically to discuss Men's Rights when what's ACTUALLY true is that I came here to explain the problem with the Mens' Rights Movement as it displays itself on Reddit. I came here saying that most of these comments are simply just hateful of feminism, and that the OP should go to feminists to g…	/r/MensRights	03/12/13 06:16 PM
-1	What does it mean when feminists say men's issues are feminist issues? Without a citation that's just more hot air. http://www.roofie.com/statistics That was the easiest one to find. No citation. Furthermore do you believe that male and female screenwriters creating these stories somehow "owe" something to women in the form of strong female leads? The best I can do for a citation right now is to point you to the bechdel test. I don't believe anyone making art owes anyone anything. However, as a writer I also believe it's important to realize our own biases. Don't u…	/r/MensRights	03/12/13 03:13 PM
-3	What does it mean when feminists say men's issues are feminist issues? Confused about apples and oranges? I can tell. It's okay, I'll explain. You didn't address my post at all, and you decided to put me down with an ad hominem. An actual, substantive response to my post would likely include the following: 1) A citation for this statement, made in a previous comment: "The fact is that actual domestic violence is fairly rare as a percentage of the population, and in those cases where it does happen between adults, about half the cases are between mutual combatants. …	/r/MensRights	03/12/13 04:09 AM
-2	What does it mean when feminists say men's issues are feminist issues? The problem is Feminism is the one setting up and supporting the law you're discussing. You can't fight against one without involving the other. You can by discussing the ideas and theory surrounding it. If a law is truly unequal but you came up with a better plan for equality and presented that in its place, you present the idea and the theory and philosophy that support it. But mostly what we see from the MRM is just "that law is unfair." You don't need to discuss Feminism to debate these laws…	/r/MensRights	03/12/13 03:47 AM
-1	What does it mean when feminists say men's issues are feminist issues? This is like a game of spot the fallacies... Much of what you believe simply isn't true. For example, daterape drug use is phenomenally rare and most women who believe they have been drugged, were found to have not been after a toxicology report. Citation please. Also, it's still irrelevant - men are at far less risk of this than women in the situation we're describing. Based on this statement I'm going to assume that you're young, inexperienced, and overly preoccupied with sex. sigh. Totally ir…	/r/MensRights	03/12/13 12:31 AM
-4	What does it mean when feminists say men's issues are feminist issues? Why do you lump women-and-children together as victims of domestic violence? I don't, the Duluth Model did. I was rolling with it. The fact is that actual domestic violence is fairly rare Please cite something when you say "the fact." If you've noticed I've failed to do this myself somewhere in this thread, I will happily oblige (or admit that I can't). So you're not only comparing apples and oranges, but your taking a bunch of apples and counting them as oranges. What's really worse is that you…	/r/MensRights	02/12/13 11:52 PM
-7	What does it mean when feminists say men's issues are feminist issues? So 60% of violence is against women and 40% is against men. Isn't that close enough to parity that policies should be framed in a gender neutral way? Frankly, no - that's what the Men's Rights Movement is for. We as men are not entitled to have a movement intended for women represent our interests. I would say the same thing if Feminism asked the Mens' Rights Movement to host a 1 Million Woman March or something. EDIT: Sorry misread - yes policies should be framed in a gender neutral way. But my…	/r/MensRights	02/12/13 11:43 PM
0	What does it mean when feminists say men's issues are feminist issues? I'm skeptical of your idea that "man" is the standard for personhood. Well this all comes from a history of oppression. I wonder, for example, what effect having had far fewer years of equality in the voting booth in America has had on the collective consciousness of women in society as a whole. It's not difficult to think that although I agree that "man" as the standard for personhood isn't something myself or my friends believe, that the inherent ideas associated with each gender tend to force…	/r/MensRights	02/12/13 11:37 PM
-4	What does it mean when feminists say men's issues are feminist issues? I would mostly disagree. A simple example: We all have the freedom to go out to the bar, drink some, and then take home a hottie and have sex. As a man, however, I won't generally have to seriously consider that 1) my drink may be drugged, 2) a stranger will touch me or invade my personal space, 3) that the person I take home from me will be stronger than me on average and if I want them to leave I will be unable to make them leave. You don't see women drugging or groping men against their will …	/r/MensRights	02/12/13 11:26 PM
-4	What does it mean when feminists say men's issues are feminist issues? I am not at all encouraged though by most feminists' reception of the MRM Personally, I think the real issue with the reception of the MRM is its own lack of the 40+ year history of theory. The only reason I separate myself from the MRM is because, well, it just seems filled with hate. Those Identity Feminists we were talking about? It feels like most self-confessed MRA's I've encountered fit the bill EXACTLY, defensively responding to a perceived usurping of "rights men are entitled to." The mo…	/r/MensRights	02/12/13 09:20 PM
-5	What does it mean when feminists say men's issues are feminist issues? I find that citing the Tender Years doctrine as a "men's issue that resulted from feminist ideals" is a little bit... misleading? Prior to that, children went to the father. So is the Tender Years doctrine is only a problem insofar as the system prior to it was also a problem. Can you really put blame on modern Feminism for a system developed 150 years ago? The theory and ideas behind the Tender Years doctrine and modern Feminism have grown and developed - most Feminists cited today are from the…	/r/MensRights	02/12/13 09:02 PM
1	What does it mean when feminists say men's issues are feminist issues? I just don't think hate for Feminism really belongs in a MRM subreddit, I guess. But I upvoted you for non-veiled honesty.	/r/MensRights	02/12/13 08:48 PM
-3	What does it mean when feminists say men's issues are feminist issues? This is a huge problem in feminism. The feminism of gender equality and uplift for all of us has been co-opted and then drowned out by the femlae chauvinists who want to increase the privelges patriarchal society grants women, IOW they are tradcon as hell, destroy the ones it gives men, and call it egalitarianism. I think that this is mostly for "Internet Feminism." Once Feminism leaked out of academia and into the rather inept hands of, well, everyone else on the internet, minority opinions bec…	/r/MensRights	02/12/13 08:47 PM
-5	What does it mean when feminists say men's issues are feminist issues? Just because you "feel" oppressed doesn't mean you are. I agree with this. And when I first decided to engage with feminism, it was very much with this skeptical frame of mind. But after looking at what feminism was describing, and taking the opportunity to drop all defensiveness and fully embrace my confusion over how women could be truthfully considered "oppressed" in our day and age when I viewed them as so obviously equal, I discovered that, shit, there ARE a lot of systemic, transmitted-via…	/r/MensRights	02/12/13 08:39 PM
-18	What does it mean when feminists say men's issues are feminist issues? OP, please, please, PLEASE ask Feminists this question - not because they will provide the "right" answer, but because many of the answers you've gotten here are definitely wrong. Many of the responses shown here are filled with loaded language and thinly-veiled hate (not of women, but of feminism). Feminism doesn't discuss men's issues as something that they'll "eventually sort out" - it discusses men's issues as gender inequalities that, through the application of feminist ideals, will also be…	/r/MensRights	02/12/13 04:22 PM
1	Fucking George Takei, man It IS a problematic statement in that either reading appears to be valid.	/r/MensRights	22/03/13 09:02 PM
20	Fucking George Takei, man I'm guessing here, but I think OThomson lost respect for him because the point of Takei's post was to highlight gender inequality (in women's favor). In this comment, Takei delivers a 1-2 punch: First, he plays off the fact that you don't often hear about men getting raped, and then riffs off the fact that if you did, they likely wouldn't be blamed for provocation.	/r/MensRights	22/03/13 08:39 PM