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thanks i was inspired
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:07 AM
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so what they're really upset about isn't "dual mating strategy", which this again does not apply to, but that hot guys exist, that people think they're hot, and they themselves aren't one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:06 AM
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because they're morons. it's only a dual mating strategy if you have the hot guy's kids and have the underwhelmoid raise them with you thinking they his
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:00 AM
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yes, but only if they also love and fuck each other. then it's the dream
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:01 AM
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you should do something better with your life than post here. this place is completely beneath anyone seeking an education
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:00 AM
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fwbs absolutely settle are you kidding me
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:37 AM
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that's ahistorical nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:28 AM
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exactly, and they're still nerds
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:29 AM
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ok but she said she wants a chad. not a normal guy who is decently groomed and functions okay socially
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:09 AM
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nerds don't become chads with muscles and money
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:03 AM
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fun, makes him feel good his social peer hottest that he still considers attainable
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 11:58 PM
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twitter. she's one of those sv e acc postrat types or whatever they call themselves these says, if that world is not on your radar then it's mostly twitter where she sometimes goes mainstream viral.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:12 PM
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i'm actually excellent with communication and boundaries and perfectly capable of (eventually) figuring out when people are acting in bad faith. you're preserving your world view where it's important either that men are blameless or that women are the problem, so you are pathologizing me with literally no grounds whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:05 PM
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birthday gangbang sankey diagram ho
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:58 PM
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omg did she what's her username
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:57 PM
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c'mon that's selling her short. aella is no less than insufferable substack retard
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:51 PM
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what is the ppd verdict on aella? she seems like a great match for this sub topic/interest wise and engagement style wise, but is also annoying and unlikeable af (not unrelated to previous) and ofc a gigaslut. curious to know where it lands
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:46 PM
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i am using "fuckboys" in the sense of including hapless spineless contemptible male biomass that will not sort themselves out, will not think honestly about what they actually want, will not learn to make decisions, will deal with difficult emotions and conversations by avoiding them, will not acknowledge their duty to contain their loser shit to keep it from harming those near them especially those they claim to care about, but will keep claiming they want what you do but saying "some day" "eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:36 PM
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i am using "fuckboys" in the sense of including hapless spineless contemptible male biomass that will not sort themselves out, will not think honestly about what they actually want, will not learn to make decisions, will deal with difficult emotions and conversations by avoiding them, will not acknowledge their duty to contain their loser shit to keep it from harming those near them especially those they claim to care about, but will keep claiming they want what you do but saying "some day" "eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:34 PM
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yes. with a car, like in that one tiktok
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:24 PM
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nobody is special yet we all are. 😇 if there's a charming, smooth, fun enough guy that he can make a little casual flirtation a positive experience, I'm all for it and would recommend it to any woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:14 PM
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sex is a way of spending time together.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:07 PM
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normal people don't really think about people in terms of superior and inferior. if the man is trying to spend time with you, all the objective signs are in fact pointing to him wanting that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:05 PM
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maybe that's not what happened to them? you can just have fun with people without expectations provided they aren't poorly hiding what they actually think of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:54 PM
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and you can waste much more of someone's time, years even, by being in a relationship with them but not committing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:27 PM
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nah plenty are with fuckboys
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:12 PM
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yes beards prove men become the more attractive the more of their face they hide. muslims have it almost right, just picked the wrong sex to cover up
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:06 PM
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fuckboys are a menace though. parasites on normal people just trying to live their lives. i quit dating forever just because i did not want to deal with them and they're entirely impossible to avoid otherwise. eternal singlehood is vastly preferable to having to sort through people intentionally wasting your time
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:02 PM
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ah. so purely a low social literacy issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:51 PM
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not because i have anything against hookups though, except it's wise to avoid them if you're about to catch feelings. it's kinda transparent when a "HVM" is trying to "slum it" with you, the vibes are infernally rancid, there's really no temptation at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:33 PM
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easily, and have.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:28 PM
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"you'll be a good husband so I won't date you" sorry what's the context here? what would actually be the typical direct quote in a situation like this i do not recognize what this is supposed to be about
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:19 PM
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depends on how much i make. money is just a brutal fact of life, and the thing that you can't look past is is the partnership viable as a whole. my partner and i both have health issues, and i've been relying on him to support us for a while now but we both know that could flip in the future. it's fucked but where i live there's strong incentives against combining finances at the bottom end of the income distribution. at a certain point of brokeness, you simply can't afford to get serious unless…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:03 PM
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i was just memeing tbh, not even about cooking specifically just more of a "listen to your wife (or sage female friend)" thing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:20 PM
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i actually chose it some years ago, before the term became more broadly used, and i meant an almost completely different thing by it. should probably change it to something else now
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:18 PM
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i don't know, i don't rule it out. women get more leeway in a lot of ways and men in others, i couldn't say how it balances out. situations where a group of people are more welcoming to a female stranger joining than a male one are much more common than vice versa, but this is a pretty narrow set of circumstances and i wouldn't give it a huge amount of weight. women have the advantage of being automatically nonthreatening, but men often don't want to be seen as nonthreatening even when there's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:39 PM
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how would you "see" that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:47 PM
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🙄 i'm not saying this stuff is new, but it is becoming more mainstream now which is just a fact. cry about it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 06:30 PM
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if you read carefully this time you should find that i was discussing looks only. korean men are known for being rancid yes, but that's off topic. i was simply referencing the well known fact that the korean look is globally very influential both wrt grooming, skincare, introducing things like everyday makeup for men etc. and the evolution of beauty standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 05:11 PM
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is that your read on her?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 05:02 PM
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yeah they do. many do it so hard they don't report as bi in the census and have no connection to the lgbtq community. the incentives are overwhelming. takes a happy accident, being kind of a nerd, or being an actual gay person holding on to their last shreds of a connection to straightness for someone to even id as bi.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 04:42 PM
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what statistics is that and is it based on asking bisexuals because they're in pretty bad denial about this
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 04:24 PM
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kind of a crank theory, but it appeals to me what can i say. yours is intuitive, assumes less and is more respectful of one's fellow man, definitely a contender still. maybe science will shed light on this in the future
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 04:20 PM
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cognitive and general health are survival buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 04:17 PM
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you see i'm not so convinced that's true. i believe, although this is just my vibes based analysis, that even if you pass the reading section of the lsat with a top 5% score, once you've posted in bad faith for a couple years you actually can't reach that score again before rehabilitating your thought patterns through practice. that there's not a clear distinction between thinking and arguing, and that even the bad faith people are actually putting forward a decent representation of their actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 04:15 PM
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🙄 maslows hierarchy of needs never applies it's bunk. unscientific, hasn't represented up to date understanding on human needs basically since it came out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 04:07 PM
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there was 0 serious effort to protect ukraine. any serious effort would have meant boots on the ground and the failure to do this is 100% a matter of lack of commitment. i reiterate: if america wants to put boots on ground in greenland, it already can. they can do anything they want there. so this cannot be the reason why they suddenly want greenland.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 04:05 PM
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feels like you're talking specifically about gendered beauty standards rather than gender norms in general? the future might surprise you. beauty standards are increasingly applying to men and converging with women's beauty standards. everyone is steadily becoming more gay. physically feminine women and masculine men aren't going to disappear, but men will increasingly become korean. if bisexuals stop prioritizing hetero relationships it's basically over, androgynous people will no longer face s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 04:00 PM
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dating is not a bottleneck societally, only individually. on the scale of society, inefficient dating market is not a significant cause for low marriage rates. marriage rates are low because given the (mostly employment related/economic) constraints people face, they are on aggregate choosing this marriage rate. if marriage were more attractive, the friction from dating would not matter, people would get married. individually, many people are stuck dealing with dating seemingly forever, so it ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:36 PM
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you could stop them, exactly as well as you can now, except you'd also have help from NATO. don't think the bases and defenses are sufficient? you can literally build as much more as you want. station as many troops as you want. the reason there aren't more is that it's expensive and hasn't actually been considered important until now. (edit. not that i'm convinced it's considered important now. very much in the remains to be seen column what kind of military buildup there would actually be afte…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:07 PM
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yes, the chosen methodology for official statistics on homelessness is very bad at capturing the scale of the problem. iirc they count only rough sleepers during one specific calendar month, rather than asking people for example how many months they've spent homeless out of the last 24, or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:04 PM
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couch surfers and people living out of their cars are homeless, though. rough sleeping homeless are only the absolute most vulnerable, but the same risks and threats apply to other kinds of homeless people. rough sleeping homeless develop severe mental illness within weeks of being out in the open simply because of how brutal that life is. in their position it is rational to self medicate. given the amount of precarious people, it's not warranted to assume too much which came first. there is an …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:01 PM
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america already has total military access to greenland. they also have allies to share cost of operations, and denmark pays the bill for keeping lights on in general. if trump were to successfully take greenland, access would not increase at all. allies would not be there. costs would increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:51 PM
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feminism hasn't been successful, all progress in women's rights and position were necessary parts of development of society into modernity. feminism takes credit but it was not a political change, feminism never had the kind of power to force anything. the change was much deeper than that, dictated by the structure of society changing as technology reshaped the economy. men as a class did not magnanimously grant these changes, they were not consulted and had to be dragged along kicking and screa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:47 PM
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the man in question might change. on here it's largely men complaining about being single. then, reasonably, women respond with a glaringly obvious huge factor that's standing in the way of men being attractive to women, good relationship partners, or able to learn from women. that's all — it's a suggestion to improve, not a demand. sometimes when men are being actively shitty about/toward women, it's said as more of an expression of outrage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:40 PM
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people do have social and psychological needs actually, affection and relationships are needs but sex isn't. children literally don't develop fully if isolated. adults' cognitive functioning and mental and physical health degrades.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:10 PM
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frustration isn't always bad, it builds character, is an inherent part of learning and growth, and contributes to the greatest satisfactions in life. avoiding frustration is not a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:06 PM
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yeah they'd come up with some cope pretty quickly, but the scrambling and cognitive dissonance would be so entertaining as long as it lasted
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:48 PM
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but it would be funny when the midwits are faced with simple clear evidence (that they take seriously) that i'm the superior reasoner and disagreeing with me is a sign of their own inadequacy. i want to see that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:39 PM
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literally what do people imagine greenland is worth? what's the point? the mineral/oil resources are a meme, they're currently not being exploited because it's uneconomical.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:36 PM
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a reading test would be better and more impactful but yeah some sm platform definitely should do this
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:34 PM
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actually, having gone through some shit, the upside of having your priorities shook straight is HUGE and i never knew how to get out of the way of my own happiness before.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:17 PM
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I’m wondering more on the internal framing should have made that more clear. How do rejected men retain masculinity internally while being rejected do you understand, are you aware that the op is all your own internal framing? you kind of directly say within it that you are committed to these beliefs, hostile to reexaminations and reject any possibility of reframing. so this makes me curious, what do you think an internal reframing could even look like here?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:45 PM
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it's true we do in fact know better
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:41 PM
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but if you had gone to cooking school it would not help your argument at all? it would settle it immediately in favor of you cooking
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:35 PM
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i mean these people, with a special interest in online misogyny, are the intersection of the stupidest and the worst emotionally regulated. it's sad but you really can't expect anything from them
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:33 PM
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why are feminists fighting you over who gets to cook. why do they want to cook for you so bad what's going on
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:23 PM
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do you understand, are you aware that the op is all your own internal framing? you kind of directly say within it that you reject the possibility of reframing. so this makes me curious, what do you think an internal reframing could even look like here?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:20 PM
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that's not what it means lmao. money is the most easy to grasp social construct and nobody would say it's such an immaterial concern it can simply be handwaved away. again in your own framework, doesn't sound healthy to try to convince yourself of an invented reality when you're reacting on a hormonal level to having observed the actual reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 04:04 AM
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that's just not how society or taxes work bruh.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:27 AM
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exactly! what do you mean x is better than y, which one do you want??
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:16 AM
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masculinity absolutely is socially constructed. which is good, because if we take your premise as given, there really isn't anything for rejected men to do but commit seppuku.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:14 AM
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you are absolutely correct. women are vastly better adjusted socially. better & more friendships, better family relations, nicer interactions with acquaintances etc. only on average ofc, but since you're here i assume you and your peers are at a disadvantage compared to most women. still mostly sucks for women too, but definitely worse for men on aggregate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:08 AM
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yeah, perfect sense, there's a lot in common with those two situations!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:42 AM
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honestly not thinking much, super confused and insecure, just following models and scripts from limbic storage on autopilot. from my parents, extended family, tv, books, probably. repeating things i saw that my brain thought fit the situation. social instincts are fairly opaque to introspection, somehow the brain just comes up with weird shit to pull without a lot of conscious thought involved. most shady insecure behavior follows when you start with the axiom that you can never express directly…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:30 AM
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as for the poor bpd girlies, they were always fucked in the olden times just as they are now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:17 AM
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i agree the development you describe is happening but i don't know that it's backfiring on people significantly. i tried this type of bullshit a couple times when young because i had very underdeveloped social/emotional skills. my targets were well adjusted men so it didn't work. i self reflected, learned and grew. very glad they didn't reward or humor me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:16 AM
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organ trafficking?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 05:55 PM
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it def can
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 05:53 PM
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we can't have nice things now?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:47 PM
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"authoritarianism" is nothing but liberal cope over other kinds of societies being able to accomplish things, have leadership, and act in a coordinated manner for the cost of no greater level of ambient violence. it's a contentless nonsense concept, because it's supposed to contrast with liberal democracy, but its characteristic traits also apply to liberal democracies.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 01:53 PM
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i'm personally set for life but i would like to see pill ideology die. the more people that deprogram themselves from the cult the better. the rest should be redacted.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 09:29 AM
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love is real but it's like the bell curve wojak meme. a lot of midwits pill themselves out of being capable of it and the threshold to coming out the other side is very high.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 09:26 AM
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the characteristics that attract abusers are fairly stable and correlated and don't necessarily make someone a bad person or partner. it's still a good red flag but this should also be considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:53 AM
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in a word, intelligence. counts way more than looks for me, and i'm really picky about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 06:21 PM
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nah. there's no chad super enough that if he requests my time based on common courtesy and i grant it and then discover he does not need my help at all i would not be pissed off.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 06:14 PM
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just be himself (only works if you're my fiancé)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:22 PM
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the more cold approaches happen the more they will be perceived as harrassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:20 PM
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the complaints are non-actionable, ie. they do not include actionable programs or steps. the issues being obliquely (as they are seen through an obfuscting, irrelevant gendered lens and being described falsely) referenced aren't inherently non-actionable. but i have yet to come across a single example of someone supposedly advocating for them with actionable policy suggestions or any kind of program that is not taking women's rights away. in fact, it's very rare for anyone to even ever bring the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 11:54 AM
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usually they are transparently a figleaf for misogynistic rhetoric or a reactionary agenda usually but when they are not more or less openly suggesting that women's rights were a mistake and need to be undone, there's no ideas there whatsoever when they are not more or less openly suggesting that women's rights were a mistake when they are not more or less openly suggesting that women's rights were a mistake
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:22 AM
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it's a lot more than just grooming, and they don't do what's necessary to enforce the legal protections that exist. i don't know how you could even make such a statement when pedophile networks like epsteins's and dutroux's operated for decades with impunity and were public knowledge long before something happened to finally force the cops to care.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 08:02 AM
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it is systemic and it is oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 11:21 PM
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used to shame men that's really your takeaway from that discourse?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:03 PM
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it's true, it is not, and that's why it's remained fully unaddressed in any other way except women individually leaving their relationships ot trying to renegotiate them from an improved position. "why don't people just" is never going to happen anywhere regarding anything. there need to be concrete steps and policy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:33 PM
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sexual abuse and a generally sexually hostile and predatory environment is still ubiquitous and generally how 8-11yo girls first learn to relate to their sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:26 PM
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the actual problem is that none of men's complaints, even when they are kind of reasonable (women being picky on tinder isn't exactly a civil rights issue), are actionable in any way. usually they are transparently a figleaf for misogynistic rhetoric or a reactionary agenda. but when they are not more or less openly suggesting that women's rights were a mistake and need to be undone, there's no ideas there whatsoever. usually not even a coherent understanding of the problem itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:23 PM
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they don't compensate for sexual attraction, they create it. It's such a common argument: I am a nice, upstanding man who cares about her. Who really loves her. Who truly gives a damn. I don't have any ill intentions, my love and regard is as earnest as can be. Why then did she not see the light and give this honest, good man who adores her, a chance? when you genuinely care about someone and respect them and want what's best for them, you accept when they don't want you. you don't try to argue …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:10 PM
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gender would not exist at all. it would matter as much as eye color or left handedness.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:11 PM
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i'd want one for a pet in that case, but not like an aquarium, i'd want to keep it as a puppy instead and take it for walks
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:03 PM
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if it were shown that we've actually been living underwater all along, how would your feelings about fish change?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:01 PM
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i've done it like 4 times
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:36 PM
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that's legible enough, it's the "based dick" that made me think otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 07:53 PM
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can't think of anything else your flair could be a reference to
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 07:21 PM
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being forced to date someone you don't want to is a grave injustice tho
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:40 PM
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i think he married tallulah twice
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:37 PM
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sometimes you can learn to grow together, that matters more than perfect compatibility
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:36 PM
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the picture the protesters themselves give on social media suggests otherwise to me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:35 PM
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and necessary for trying things
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:33 PM
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never apologize for truth
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:32 PM
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that's exactly how i rate them too. feminism > men > conservatism
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:29 PM
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isn't that what the palestine protests effectively are?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:29 PM
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just convince yourself that you'll beat the odds and be happy until you realize it didn't happen/forever if you do get lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:27 PM
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why are you nixonpilled?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:21 PM
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well, thank you for being so empathetic. i don't think i will be though, so it's unnecessary for you to grieve on my behalf.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:58 PM
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i won't be sad about it if i have kids in the distant future, why would you be?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:51 PM
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why? i'm 30 something and want kids in the future. i'm not sad about it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:35 PM
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😮!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:32 PM
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it's not satire, just bad trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:24 PM
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it's true, i do. but i don't get downvoted when i do post here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:21 PM
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it does not happen to everyone. it's rare for me and when it does happen it's pretty clear why.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 03:49 PM
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you're on a path to redemption and moral clarity, you should not be asking for leniency. leniency is an easy way out, turning from the path — sacrificing whatever truth you are currently following in favor of a temporarily more comfortable compromising halfway position. don't do that. stay on the path. feeling bad is part of it, keep following, you'll come out the other side. it's all true, we live in a deeply evil society that forces complicity on us. but better things are possible. find your c…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 12:55 PM
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kinda sounds like you're nitpicking advice that's necessarily going to be a generalization for being a generalization. the truth is that it's just not a good position to put yourself in to try to date 25yos at 35. that in no way implies someone can't succeed. if you have your shit together, you can find a certain type of early to mid 20s woman at 35. there's not that many of them, and there's not much that is attractive about them, including personality or even capacity for loyalty. some grow up…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:56 AM
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it does not mean that, just means there aren't as many decent men as there decent women who want decent men. this is compatible with a majority of men being decent. but yes, most men are shit actually. saying that is not a comment on the entire gender. you should learn to control your emotions, it's pathetic, irrational and incredibly cringe to react like you're being personally attacked when someone criticizes any men for anything but identifies them as men. especially when you would probably j…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:34 AM
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saying there aren't enough decent men is not blaming any decent men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:42 AM
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the law has nothing to do with consent and something being legal does not make it acceptable or not rape. what an evil person thinks of themselves makes no difference to the fact that they are evil. history is full of colonizers, slaveowners, nazis, environmental criminals, robber barons, crusaders, inquisitors, and yes, pimps and rapists that believed strongly in the righteousness of what they did. believing you're justified does not make you innocent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:15 AM
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maybe ask a man who wants to get married? when my fiancé proposed to me these were the reasons he gave: * helps merge finances when interfacing with the law -> enables creating a single household setting us up optimally for babies and taking care of each other until one of us dies * legal status for both as each other's next of kin (more important than usual because we are citizens of different countries) * gets to have a wedding (loves family, loves parties, rarely has excuse that can bring eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 12:09 AM
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of course i have considered it. i lack many, although they are mainly in the category i would myself consider superficial. the rest are things i can't help and if i could i would have done it ages ago for reasons other than dating. but this has barely even come up over the course of my entire dating career. overwhelmingly it's been me deciding against a second date. i've only faced rejection a few times, and those rejections happened when i was operating under a really bad mindset and trying to …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 11:53 PM
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i found my fiancé through a shared interest. that's not quite the same thing as a hobby but close enough imo. even your own anecdote offers more support for hobbies being helpful than your claim. you met a cute girl and talked to her. if she hadn't been off the market there could in theory have been mutual interest. (although ofc she mentioned her bf to stop you from having any ideas because men do ruin hobby spaces by trying to use them for dating in a disruptive and crude manner.)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:28 PM
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yeah this place especially seems to exist for that in a sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:22 PM
1

mostly the same as a good person but the standards relevant to relationship skills are higher. a good person to me is someone who cooperates, deals with people honestly and fairly, takes care of those who need it, builds and creates, is capable of loyalty, has morals and values and real commitments to them, respects and upholds rules that are there to enforce the common good, but not rules that are unjust, etc. etc. in a relationship a good person is also able to manage one's own emotions, commu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:19 PM
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tbh i'm getting the vibe most of all that he really really wants to say no to women on this, and that's why he is asking us to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:05 PM
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yeah, some women compete. i have nothing in common with them, including what kind of guy i think is worth pursuing. as per my earlier post, i don't think it's good for people to be competed over, or to compete for partners for that matter. both things actively set people up for failing at what should be the real goal, the relationship. i'm not superficial. i'm picky about exactly two things and the latter shouldn't even count, non-mathematical intelligence and being decent, by which i mean both …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 08:28 PM
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i would have thought that the causal mechanism is extremely obvious, but evidently not. ever heard of carework and how women do it but men avoid it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:57 PM
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when the problem is that there aren't enough decent men, there is literally nothing women can do to fix the situation. competing over the good men is not a solution, it just ends up ruining them too and creating a lot of sunk costs it will be more painful to cut.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:55 PM
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you're literally describing how your own choices and actions easily overcame whatever postpartum psychology she had because you were a motivated and active father and that she quickly came around to seeing how important and helpful you are. yes it is the father's choice, and one you exercised. why would you play the victim about it and pretend this is some huge social issue when you were so successful making your own choices exactly as you wanted?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:24 AM
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yes, that's a practical and smart attitude and how you should approach baby care.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:18 AM
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there's a ton of that research going back decades yes, but the results don't hold up. plenty of research out there whose results don't end up representative of the sum total of our best understanding of science. the problem with claims about breastmilk is that they try to take it too far. it's basically a superstition western people are really attached to culturally and institutionally. breastmilk does have some observable benefits especially immune and microbiome wise, but the breastmilk cult h…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 08:29 AM
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they complain about not getting commitment from these men do they really though? that's not what i'm hearing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:49 AM
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not that i believe i'd agree with you on men's character.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:38 AM
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that doesn't actually contradict what i said. both could be true at the same time
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:38 AM
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based on your description definitely not that one. but there's several studies out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:35 AM
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not accurate, the same effect shows up for men who have daughters but not sons. it's a matter of having women in your family. children's sex not affected by the father's wealth or health (or, if it is then sons rather than dsughters are correlated with wealth).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:31 AM
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i don't think that was the one!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:20 AM
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yup, especially if they do it for a living
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:06 AM
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two possible explanations. men lie i'd say people but i read an experimental study once ages ago that found women gave accurate answers and men exaggerated, so i'm going with that. or there's a very small amount of women who have astronomical n-counts, who between themselves have fucked enough men to account for the gap, but there's a small enough amount of them that they're always left out of representative samples.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:01 AM
5

well that went well for you then, congrats
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:45 AM
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y'all can figure your own shit out. marriage isn't for everybody and that's fine, you're the one who knows if it's your thing or not not us.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:44 AM
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gonna take some extra work to find a smart responsible woman who agrees to be your baby mama.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:40 AM
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women still do all this when cohabiting with men, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:36 AM
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only problem with that statement is everything else you posted itt
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:34 AM
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idk it sounds to me like they're not trying to get you to marry them as much as you'd like
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:28 AM
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fathers can bottle feed just as well as mothers. a significant percentage of mothers can't exclusively breastfeed, and the ones that do often pump and use bottles so the dads can still participate. the evidence that breastmilk is better than formula doesn't really hold up, the effect appears to be culturally mediated.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:26 AM
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kinda seems like he doesn't have a woman in his life who wants to marry him but he is really invested in the scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:13 AM
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maybe there was some reasons provided with that pressure? i'd just go look at it again if i were you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:05 AM
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you clearly don't want to get married, so i don't think you should. just find a partner whose life goals are compatible, or stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:03 AM
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"If men who marry single mothers and become step dads are super admirable, doesn’t that also require to acknowledge the “why” of it being so admirable in the first place? It’s because you are choosing to take on a super disadvantageous position. You can’t have one without the other." "they're not super admirable, men just get insanely disproportional credit for doing very bare minimum level parenting shit." "A guy choosing to take on kids who aren’t his kind of flies in the face of that, no? Lol…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:52 AM
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nah, sorry. tons and tons of shitty men out there, not enough decent ones for all who want them, and any woman who is upset because the leftover men categorically refuse to try to be good partners is 100% within her rights to complain and blame them for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:44 AM
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children are so dependent on their mothers as a primary caregiver during that time. Men get a lot of shit when it comes to parenting because of the fact that toddlers are innately more strongly bonded to their mothers. After toddlerhood, the father must play a much more active role in the evenings and weekends with them - it's not like he's not doing his part, but men get a lot of shit from their wives for being bad at parenting before when the baby still hasn't figured out this strange other pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:33 AM
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you're yucking her yum
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:16 AM
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what if indeed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:04 AM
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i've started taking meth and will soon be healthy (19-21 bmi)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:00 AM
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but it's gender roles if you expect men to not shit themselves where they sit. don't you see? it's unfair pressuring to say bad things about men who wallow in their own filth, or to not say anything to or about them. you have to praise them or you're a hypocrite! because women can have mortgages in their own name these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:57 PM
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you're having a hallucination. an entirely imagined exchange, in your head. i have no idea what you think i've supposedly said that you're replying to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:38 PM
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????? you're acting as if I'M willfully misinterpreting something when i'm just talking about things that are literally in the post. the piss bottles were my own flourish, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:22 PM
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our task group doesn't consider meeting men's violent crime rate realistic. at best we could form murder gangs that target violent men, to sort of meet you guys halfway so to speak, but currently we don't have a way of fine tuning the impact on male violent crime rates. we wouldn't want to overshoot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:12 PM
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i literally cannot debate you. your thesis is unassailable. i fully agree that most women want to have a job and their own money, while not being impressed with men who drop out of society piss in bottles and play video games all day every day, and sometimes even saying so online.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:01 PM
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i would definitely not recommend a rope to anyone who wants to be sure of it. guns are good if you have access to one but many women don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 10:56 PM
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don't really see a connection no
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 10:54 PM
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progress is being made as we speak. women are the majority of new veterinarians, and that is the profession with the absolute best success rate and also one of the highest attempt rates. women also try again multiple times after failing. grinding is the only way to get good and we are humbly putting in the hours. i support and encourage every woman to put their own needs first to succeed. women too should feel entitled to choose messy methods. leaving a pretty corpse doesn't work anyway. i tell …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 10:52 PM
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is this parody? what an own goal
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 10:31 PM
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they're not super admirable, men just get insanely disproportional credit for doing very bare minimum level parenting shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 10:29 PM
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female is fine as an adjective but not a noun. ofc no one is going to have a meltdown over it irl, that doesn't mean they didn't make note.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 10:22 PM
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taxes are optional for rich people
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 10:20 PM
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yes. in a feminist utopia the government will simply pay people to have kids if a higher birth rate is deemed necessary. not some shitty subsidy or one time stipend, but cost plus salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 10:14 PM
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nah it's just that traditionally suicide was seen as men's work so there's a gap in access to effective means and the skill to make use of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 10:10 PM
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the second paragraph is weird and, frankly, grossly condescending. You know nothing about me. Probably best to be at least a little circumspect.... not helping your case
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:57 PM
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i would not give advice to a guy like that without knowing what's wrong with him first. won't risk helping a psycho trick some poor woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:30 PM
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oh, that's unexpected. maybe you're right, who knows
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:15 PM
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well let's say it's found that too many men don't meet physical or mental fitness requirements and not enough of them have the right education to be able to serve in certain roles after a short course. requiring women to register and then using that data to choose the people best capable of the required service would solve the problem. if necessary it could be done in a way that softens any possible political fallout by minimizing the number of women. what about then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 08:42 PM
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yes, it would help a small number of people a lot, if they're able to make it still work. but tech needs large numbers of people to keep it working. it will not help at scale. when entire societies are in acute crisis, it's too late to start planning the 8 year infrastructure investment that could fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 08:18 PM
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that's not what i meant. didn't mean to imply that you think everything's going to be the same. covid and iphone and 5g and ai and subprime mortgage crisis for example are all compatible with end of history. just a certain unchanged political continuity. that whatever is making drafting women so unthinkable won't change.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 08:11 PM
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it's a 90s meme, and you're describing pretty much what i meant by it. assuming that future is just always going to be more of the same, and the kind of political and geopolitical changes that happened between 1900 and 2000 won't happen again.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 08:00 PM
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there's not really any technology that can help with the scale of the changes we'll be seeing. technology is fragile and reliant on a massive number of things continuing to work that aren't going to continue to work, it will be lost very quickly in a societal collapse situation. there's a lot that could be done to prepare and prevent technology loss, just like there's a lot that could be done to adapt to climate change, but the best time to do both of those things has been the same time that was…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:55 PM
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y'all still believe the "end of history" thing in 2024?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:40 PM
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the ice age was a minor inconvenience compared to what we're facing now. the physical size of the planet relative to human population was five orders of magnitude greater. the health and capacity of ecosystems was much better. most people just chilled in places that stayed hospitable throughout.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:37 PM
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no matter what happens, climate wise things are definitely not going to get better, that's just not in the probability distribution. there's a lot of uncertainty involved, but also things that are not under any doubt, and that's one of them. i hope we'll adapt. i don't consider it a certainty at all, extinction is very much a possibility. but that's really pointless to speculate about, i think people just bring it up as a misguided attempt to break through and communicate the severity of what we…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:25 PM
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good call. everyone should do that tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:43 PM
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respectfully, that's cope. it's fine if you don't like talking about climate change and i'll stop, but i hope you can admit that your entire point only makes sense if you assume it's impossible to actually understand any of those predictions on their merits or learn about the responses to them, and that therefore it was genuinely unknowable how those things would go beforehand. treating them as somehow equal is a nihilistic thing to do, and it makes me sad when otherwise reasonable people resort…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:41 PM
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it's pretty dark to think about difficult unstable times and the need to rely on family, but people not having families. but also very dark to think about everything gradually falling apart around us, food quality and availability and prices becoming a major stressor for even the former middle class. but we all just keep posting through it and buying what we can and watching tv and dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:11 PM
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i meant once the crop failures start for real. not that people can voluntarily go on the jordan peterson diet
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:02 PM
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that's like 30% the internet, go find it it's not hard
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:59 PM
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would you have liked to go on the date though, knowing she felt that way about it? you didn't lose anything here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:58 PM
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good for him!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:46 PM
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depends on who he bullies and how
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:45 PM
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scurvy is very possible in our lifetimes
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:42 PM
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look, i'm not naive to this, you're talking about my reference class. that's why i chose a number under 100%. i would honestly call what you're referring to either clout or class depending on context, to distinguish from status. because it doesn't translate outside of the scene it's earned in and does nothing to help you elsewhere. money is real and translates everywhere and also strongly correlates with the relative status rankings of the different bubbles themselves. i'm going on about this mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:27 PM
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everyone is free to opt out whenever and lower theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 03:58 PM
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you do have a point, that's what marriage is for after all, but you're neglecting to consider the many valid things this gets weighed against in making the decision. for instance, a divorce is one if the worst things most people go through in their lives and it impacts them negatively for a long time. the effect of dissolving cohabitation isn't known due to lack of data, but i don't think it's safe to assume the protections of a marriage could either save a relationship or make the breakup easie…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 03:30 PM
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oh don't worry the government has access to all of that data already. all this does is add it to a bunch of ai training datasets and on a few of the startups poorly secured servers
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 03:18 PM
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it's great because it makes it sound like you're a bad person for refusing to entertain someone's misogynistic rant and smile and nod politely and swear to take heed and change your behavior and thank the idiot for opening your eyes with his "insight", which is just a less coherent regurgitation of either a f&f podcast episode or some race scientist blog post from 2008. the most banale garden variety bigotry no person on this planet hasn't heard a thousand times, and ignored because it's fucking…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 03:06 PM
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funniest thing i've heard in a while. great for the grift startup tho
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:52 PM
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"holding women accountable" has become the funniest buzzword in the manosphere. i've puzzled over what people think it means, and i'm as clueless as ever what's going on inside their heads. but from use it's evident that a lot of men think women are under some kind of obligation to listen to their "opinions" about them or other women, and rightly pushing back is "refusing accountability" or some other psychobabble for Wrong Thing Dumb And Mean People Do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:44 PM
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there's a genre of male behavior most purely represented by the uncle who keeps a titty calendar in open view and starts saying weird shit when you're about to turn 11 years old. every woman knows it and instinctively knows the warning signs, down to subtle changes in the tone of voice, expression or even the posture of a man who's about to start behaving that way. exact same way as an alcoholic's child can read drunks. this type of talk is a typical example. more effective on a pussy than the k…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:25 PM
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...ok but that is completely unrelated to the post you are replying to?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:18 PM
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i invite you to sit with that thought for a minute. like, purely logically. what does that assume implicitly? how do you arrive at a point where such a period is possible? how would you set a situation like that up? it implies that female sexual selection either became a major force in human evolution but hadn't been that before, or that it was a major force even before, but females shifted their preferences from something else to aggressive rapists. does that make any sense to you? because to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 08:29 AM
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you just don't get to tell other people what their experience is. no matter how many times you say it doesn't matter how many times you say "no".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 08:15 AM
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sorry, can't take your word for it. you don't know any men like that, you're an online pillbrain dude and your entire reference system is from chad vs virgin memes and sjw cringe compilations. if a guy says he's "nice" and not at all misogynistic or pornbrained and does equal housework but them bitches just won't see what a supreme gentleman he is, you'll take his word at face value.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 08:13 AM
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so... view the matter entirely from within an bubble of people who don't make a lot of money? idk man, seems pretty insular to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 08:09 AM
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heterosexual relationships have historically been a kind of slavery and socially and psychologically a lot of how we understand them still carries over from that heritage. one very interesting aspect of slavery is that a master needs a slave, but a slave does not need a master and is actually better off without one. a master loses their humanity by dehumanizing another and therefore denying humanity itself, but a slave merely endures dehumanization from the outside. a slave can move on easily an…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 03:22 AM
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Attraction to money or status is not real attraction. yes Attraction is purely raw, instinctual, and mostly visual. no
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:54 AM
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the "gene pool" is an almost exclusively male concern, and even men wouldn't care about it if they were expecting to have actual relationships with their own children.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:40 AM
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apologies mr. daughter sex, i wasn't familiar with your game. in my defense, i've spent my formative years on 4chan and later twitter, so on here it's often really difficult for me to sus out the correct balance of "now that is definitelty too dumb to be a serious post".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:33 AM
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could have had the potential to be better, but feel crushed so they're just too lazy or too emotional to actually be better? does it even make sense to talk about potential at that point?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:28 AM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:22 AM
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if i were your daughter i'd want to douse myself in gasoline and light a match because that's the only way i could ever feel clean.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:17 AM
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yes you are. irredeemable
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:13 AM
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yes, that's what you're saying actually. you think a whore can't be raped. you think it's fine to just do shit to them they never agreed to or explicitly said no to, because you paid and that means they consented. you definitely don't think you have to stop if they're in pain and telling you to, they got paid for their consent, so now they can't withdraw it. tuff break i believe it was you said? comes with the job they accepted, so it's their own fault and fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:03 AM
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i'm saying literal rape according to a definition even you should recognize occurs very frequently in the sex trade. prostitution victims who have been raped in the line of work are a supermajority.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:52 AM
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well pimps and trafficking and all kinds of coercion are very common features of the sex trade and if you gave a shit, you wouldn't handwave those away as if there was some sex trade that wasn't inherently violent. but you don't, and you're only engaging to justify, because you're a john. plenty of jobs are also unacceptable. even ignoring the deeply personal and intimate nature of sex and the unique character of rape compared to other forms of exploitation, yes i would consider any other job th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:50 AM
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it is comparable to rape though. a lot of the time, rape literally occurs. observed levels of ptsd are similar between prostitutes and rape victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:30 AM
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it's coerced "consent". the threat of poverty and destitution is not meaningfully different from a threat of violence. an impersonal, diffuse, indirect threat by broader social structures may help the john feel better about it than if he were just directly threatening the prostitute (although i doubt it, as rapists specifically want to use power over their victims), but it doesn't alter the fact that he is taking advantage of a human being's vulnerable position in just the same way as a rapist d…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:28 AM
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because johns are no better than rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:31 PM
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you're 14 and your dog club leader idol is an incel
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:25 PM
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you're right, it's not a red flag. it's a dealbreaker. a red flag is when your alerts are going up, but you're still open to it being a false alarm. being revealed as a john is not that. being revealed as a john is when you walk away immediately and don't wait to hear anything else. no context, no excuses, no justifications. no goodbyes. you just go.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:21 PM
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you mean NAFO
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:11 PM
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This isn't just some pet theory I cooked up, it's the analysis of all the major intelligence agencies across the globe that were predicting this move by Russia. then it's a pet theory of whoever told you that, because that is just not even close to being true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:56 PM
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Population decline in Russia isn't because of inherent violence,or political instability. i wasn't suggesting it was? but obviously population decline isn't going to cause a war? it could at most lead to war by first causing instability, but that has not been happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 08:46 PM
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i don't know how to tell you kindly that that's stupid, so i'm just going to be frank. They can't afford to keep the lights on essentially. no evidence of this whatsoever. the russian economy was not in crisis before the war. >The solution: get Europe to pay for it while they figure out how to stabilize the population numbers. They do that by controlling oil and gas in the region. you mean by selling europe gas, like they were doing before the war? >Recently discovered Shale oil, and natural gas…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 08:42 PM
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not sure what kind of explanation i should offer because that's extremely available information for people who seek it out so as someone who has thought about the topic enough to have formed an opinion of the underlying causes i doubt not having heard it is the issue here. anyway the reasons aren't at all in that realm, they have nothing to do with any supposed instability or inherent violentness of russian society. their political leadership felt it necessary for political reasons and had suffi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:34 PM
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that's what the ruling class already wants anyway. there aren't going be policies to prevent that from happening, and the instant it's possible based on some excuse they're gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:25 PM
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It's the underlying reason why Russia invaded Ukraine absolute nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:22 PM
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i wasn't talking about their employability either 🙄 women absolutely do not find male nurses undateable. unless you're trying to say only female doctors and engineers count, or that currently all men have better careers than nurse, i don't even know what your point is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 06:53 PM
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are you kidding me lol. male nurses are in high demand. less sure about teachers given that being a teacher is such a terrible deal these days it's basically self harm. but if it was a normal sustainable job then it would probably be pretty hot too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 01:41 PM
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your reasoning is based on a ridiculously caricaturistic false dichotomy. completely ignores that men can just be normal. you don't have to choose between being a bully or a tossing bag. that's not even just finding a balance between the right ratio of bully to doormat, it's a third, entirely different thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 01:13 PM
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it's very hierarchical yes, i don't think many people seriously deny this. in my view, men overall are happy to accept subordination and readily defend hierarchies where they aren't at the top. lots of elon and trump simps online, for instance. the trouble comes when they perceive their position threatened from below, as with women, or for white men, everybody else. but it's not then a problem of accepting subordination, but of being equal to women and poc, ie. the loss of privilege and superior…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 12:25 PM
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this model does not make sense to me. i don't feel like it describes anything very well and doesn't correspond to how i see the term used. and it does not seem to have explanatory power or even a plausible origin story. way i see it simping is very straightforwardly a synonym of fawning. it is weaponized online against people without much regard to accuracy, that's just how insults work. specifically it is often being used against men who aren't raging misogynists because misogynists perceive th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 12:00 PM
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oh. even dumber than i thought, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:20 AM
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you're looking for a paradox, obviously it doesn't exist. the men who take in the most vulnerable women do so for a reason. women with other options avoid that fate for a reason. obviously the man gets something out of it that not a lot of women are willing to give. what is happening there is NOT a sub woman's fantasy that a dom man is fulfilling. a woman who is in a strong position to do whatever she wants with her life with many good options at her reach is not going to want to become mommy gf…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:17 AM
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you know how mathematically if you take axioms that contradict each other you can prove literally any claim? similarly some thought experiments are so nonsensical that you can't really go anywhere with them. simping suddenly becoming attractive goes so deeply against everything about how humans work, that if you assume that happens, then anything can happen. logic doesn't exist anymore, laws of nature and rules all stop working. maybe magic is suddenly real, or the universe collapses into a blac…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:09 AM
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what are you talking about, status is at least 95% about money
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:01 AM
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patriarchy specifically means that women don't get to choose freely. so, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:56 AM
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that's just what blondes actually look like. they've made an artistic decision to lean into it with the visuals across the board, with lighting and makeup and wardrobe and everything. makes them look a lil alien, a lil inhuman, and whoever is making creative decisions wanted to pursue that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:54 AM
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you'll never know for sure until you test them in the real situation, but there are a ton of signs you can spot beforehand. the main thing is, do they believe that kind of behaviour is okay or not. people never really lose control, they just reach a point where they believe the situation justifies their actions. this is one of those things where the behavior largely persists because there's social acceptance for it, like corporal punishment of kids. often if you straight out ask people of they t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:43 AM
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obviously no one denies that rape and dv exist, a lovely sign of good faith of you to choose that as the bar to pass lol we don't want to create a system where false accusations are easy weapons to wield against people. that would definitely to them becoming common even though yes, i do not currently believe they are common. but as things stand, both go unaddressed causing harm on a massive scale, and something needs to be done about that. anyone who doesn't value a fertile operating environment…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:21 AM
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wrongly or rightly, people associate virginity and more broadly social isolation with online communities that actively indoctrinate people into being worse humans. i feel like it's probably a reasonable association to make, but i'm not sure what the age cutoff should be. unless we're talking about a case where a guy was on track to be normal until they got sucked in, that's obviously not the reason they are a virgin. but i feel like this might still be what the post was referring to. makes most …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:14 AM
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never going to happen because men don't have any legitimate issues. pill ideology and manosphere is nothing but a misogynistic cult that twists itself to most contorted belief structures to do a kind of gender equality darvo. men want to maintain and preserve patriarchal advantages, and y'all already share total solidarity in denying rape and dv accusations, justifying misogyny, and continuing to believe like a pampered french noble in the late 17th century that there's any kind of 'bias' or 'mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:45 AM
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being a pickme is universally repulsive behavior. that's why it doesn't work. only absolute bottom feeders will take pickmes. abusive men who aren't good at lovebombing or charisma.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:32 PM
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yes it is, but also it's not what i said.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:53 AM
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there are no studies that support op's ability to tell from watching people that women aren't really into their partners, nor any that confirm his powers of observation as an accurate, objective data collection method.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:33 PM
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well, maybe you should ask the women who approached you then.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:16 PM
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i don't wait to feel comfortable to do it. if i want to, i just do. i need to know him somewhat well, i need to like him and think he's relationship material, have a reason to think he might be interested, and it needs to be that kind of moment in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:09 PM
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Yet, I still see women get with guys that they're clearly not really into starting around age 30. i'm sorry, but this is nothing but your own imagination and judgments based on your belief system and filtered by confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:00 PM
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very good take!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 09:22 PM
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yeah it's innate and immutable, you definitely can't do anything about it or learn anything, your actions and choices do not contribute you're an innocent blameless hopeless victim destined to suffer forevermore.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 05:11 PM
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i don't think in the context dating percentages in the general population are a good proxy for probability of finding someone. i do get your point, but in the end, if you're looking for just one person then it's enough to find one that's right. op says he's interested in getting a phd, by that and some of the things on the list i'm guessing that he's part of a certain, uhh i guess social class? not sure what to call it. but that's important to him, and he identifies with it and wants to marry wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 09:17 PM
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i don't know why you find it so unbelievable? i know what i like wrt appearance but i don't really have a lot of dealbreakers either. definitely nothing i'd list beforehand as such, i'd have to see on a case by case basis. if i'm having to think about it, clearly i find the person attractive regardless. there's no point in deciding i'm categorically not going to be attracted to something.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 08:58 PM
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the unkemptness and wardrobe of 90% of straight men in relationships too
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 08:03 PM
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you should not compromise on those! and to be clear, that's not what i'm telling you to do. just, be really clear on what your actual priorities are. there are things on your list it would be tragic to miss out on the love of your life for. ditch those as "standards"; just keep them as things that make someone more interesting. for standards, find the ones that actually tell you in advance someone can't be the love of your life. and when you go out there, keep an open mind and focus mostly on fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 07:41 PM
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that you can't approach dating through checklists, imagining a person first then going out to find them, or by trying to control or negotiate the outcome in advance.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 07:26 PM
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yeah, the childfree thing is the major thing on here, and the city and similar or at least compatible attitude toward money are also very smart standards to have. and nothing else on there is problematic on its own, it's just the combination of all of it is simply not going to help you, it's the wrong attitude to approach dating with. edit. now, if you're using ambition or culture as hooks for recognising interesting people, rather than as requirements to exclude, that could be helpful and const…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 07:19 PM
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some of the things on your list aren't important enough to be standards (cultural interests? college educated? career plans but it's not about money or stability?), but they seem like they represent something that probably is. i would think the list over more from this angle, to get better clarity about what is important to me and to get better at recognising it in other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 07:06 PM
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those are not "standards" they're a wishlist. they're not "too high" but the sum of them is pointless and won't help you connect with people. you can't order a custom build from the sexual marketplace catalogue because that's not how human beings work. you just can't control the outcomes of your life to that extent. imagine you run into someone attractive who makes you feel really good and is clearly interested. imagine what she would have to lack for you to turn her down. that's what your stand…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 07:03 PM
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a relationship is a thing that two people create through their interactions every day. my standards overwhelmingly revolve around what kind of relationship i want to have. they're just signs in a guy that we could have that kind of relationship together. that he also wants the same thing, that he wants it with me, and that he has what it takes to succeed. what i bring is that i'm capable of being part of that kind of relationship. if i wasn't, there'd be no point in trying to trick someone who i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:21 PM
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i found my fiancé through a shared nerdy and male dominated interest. he was interesting to me because he was obviously autistic, obviously intelligent and educated (trained mind, not just some degree), knowledgeable on a bunch of interesting stuff, sufficiently aligned with my world view that we were able to have more in depth conversations without getting stuck trying to establish common ground, far too smart and socially literate to entertain any kind of bullshit, genuinely interested in my v…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 09:03 AM
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that is a very interesting question that gets at something critically important that seems to divide people very starkly into the oblivious and those "in the know". no hope of having a good discussion on it here, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:50 PM
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on here people will assume you're already octupling down on "no i'm a nice guy, it's because women are evil hypergamous soulless banshees who want to get bride stolen and wifebeaten by chad" because these discussions have been gone over 100 000 times.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:26 PM
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i don't think i've ever heard a woman complain men don't cold approach anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:40 PM
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i get your point but this guy did not put up any kind of resistance and could have just been told to get the fuck out and that would have been enough. i could have handled it myself once everyone was quiet and had their attention on us and he got scared. there just happened to be the wrong kind of guys present. the cops and ambulance ended up being called.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:20 PM
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hahaha "dark triad" even, you might say?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:01 PM
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oh nooooo what ever will i do if occasionally my heuristic leads me to correctly peg someone who learned the term "dark triad" from a trp/pua blog as a someone who gets their ideas from trp/pua blogs but they also identify as a victim!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:56 PM
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yeah you're so extremely clearly not offended that i'm forced to apologise and retract my use of that word. sorry, i don't know how i could have made such a mistake
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:50 PM
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all i'm saying is, this is one of those words that you can use to trace where people got their ideas from. take issue with that all you want because you feel offended it doesn't describe you and obviously you're the most important person online at any given time lol, i don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:34 PM
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ok, so you haven't learned anything outside of your original indoctrination since what, 16? 20? since santa claus or since jesus? you think that was all the bullshit you were taught? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:28 PM
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i guess you stay away from peer communities, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:27 PM
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the common use definitely includes both addressing weaknesses and becoming a more well rounded person with a broader perspective. i would argue both are more central to the concept than putting a ton of work into developing a single stat like in your examples, but that could just be me so i won't appeal to common usage there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:25 PM
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i'm aware it's being used in research, but it is not used by victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:18 PM
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nah, you believe things you're consistently told from childhood too. if you're not even aware of it, and think you're somehow immune, then that can only mean you've never done any deprogramming whatsoever and still believe 100% of the world view you were given growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:36 PM
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anything that can help calibrate the relative risk of a bear encounter in the woods vs the risk being alone in a secluded location with a strange man would be relevant here. but none of it exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:33 PM
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oh it was totally my fault, asking people for help when a man was harassing me. i should have known that's what would happen, after all i should know better than to expect men to not get violent and escalate needlessly. and it's not like i'm posting online pointing out that this is a risk to consider, no, or saying it was bad. i'm gloating! i obviously meant he deserved it, and i'm obviously lying when i say i didn't ask anyone to assault him. i knew exactly what i was doing and it made me feel …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:31 PM
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this is a gender war sub. so you have people on here who don't tend to look at the concept of the gender war itself very critically. which leads to a bubble where people take it a lot more seriously than is warranted, and vastly overrate its scope and significance. the antifeminist wave trying to undo women's and lgbt rights gains may yet become era-defining. if this happens, it will be like brexit: a 100% avoidable error caused purely by political dysfunction. until that happens, if it does, ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:21 PM
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i wish they could hear this when it's still a person warning them and not life coming at them. there's nothing like real material insecurity and permanent loss of health to open eyes and show people their true priorities with clarity for the first time. but it never works. and then, if they weren't doing the right things by chance all along, it's too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:04 PM
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i was there and read a lot of it and asked many of them clarification. 0 held up to scrutiny at all. the relevant statistics simply don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:43 PM
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But my idea of self improvement is improving from one's baseline, excluding extreme outliers (ex. self made billionaires do not count) and not fixing obvious flaws. True self improvement would be adding a significantly noticeable amount of muscle (ex. modest body fat and 180lbs to 210lbs and lean) or going from an income of 60k/year to 1 million per year, just to point out some objective metrics. so what you've done is, you've taken a commonly used term, completely redefined it to mean something…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:41 PM
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i also go running alone at night because that's not a very vulnerable activity and my neighbourhood is safe. but for most women that's about as far as they'll go, and many won't go after dark because of unpleasant experiences they've had.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:35 PM
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that's because women actively avoid being alone in a secluded location or otherwise vulnerable situation with strange men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:25 PM
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statistically they would be better off with the man. i have seen 0 serious attempts from antibear guys to make this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:24 PM
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why would the same pressure won't keep them married? it's much easier to convince people into wanting something they haven't tried yet, than into sticking with it when it sucks ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:20 PM
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culturally it's taught to us that it's women's job to "lock down" a good guy and it's still seen as the main success metric for women. whereas guys are taught that getting married is a loss of freedom and takes the joy out of a relationship. it's not a surprise when people take these lessons to heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:16 PM
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i've never had trouble getting men to help, but it does require making a scene and then the result is out of your hands. i once got a guy assaulted when it really wasn't helpful or necessary and i wasn't asking for anyone to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:09 PM
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The only way people ever learn about dark triad in the first place is by being abused by someone. nonsense. 100% of people using that specific term learned it from pua/trp content. victims use completely different language, and they also identify with and have empathy toward other victims instead of using psychobabble to justify blatant misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 12:59 PM
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i agree! picking the low hanging fruits is a net positive, but a true maximization strategy just makes you overly preoccupied with appearance, leading to insecurity and becoming more picky about partners and less capable of being a normal human.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 12:37 PM
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it's a widely believed rumor. he has one of the few jobs where coming out as gay still massively impacts your career in a way that's difficult to turn to an advantage. 90s-00s hollywood was a much more hostile environment for lgbt+, and being a heartthrob was his major asset. while he's aged out of that niche and successfully leveraged his start to build a career on artistic accomplishment, being out as gay would still affect his craft by subjecting him to typecasting and just making his charact…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 12:17 PM
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replace your toothbrush with a gun and go take care of that rancid breath
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:55 PM
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i think it's actually either your literacy or your bad faith 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:01 PM
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i'm fine thanks, i'm not complaining about my situation, just describing my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:46 PM
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basically whenever you pursue the narrow standard ideal, it's always this and not genuine internal motivation unless you're very conventionally attractive yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:04 PM
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i've done that. didn't help. it's not about being decent or not getting enough experience, a lot of guys just aren't socially skilled that way. not able to learn or open to it, no amount of experience is ever going to help them. there's no correlation with decency, except on dating apps because guys who know what they want are honest about it and good at presenting themselves pass through really quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:03 PM
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yeah, also not hot. i don't date conventionally attractive guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 01:54 PM
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depends! if you just privately want to be attracted to your partner then it's not. but most people are completely out of touch with their natural attraction and what causes it and totally focused on pursuing the narrow ideal of conventionsl attractiveness because they actually care far more about what other people think about their partner than how they themselves feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 09:56 AM
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it was because the strategy of giving people chances despite bad profiles doesn't really work. the guys with uninteresting profiles are overwhelmingly uninteresting themselves. it's too much trying. the apps don't work, i quit using them years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 08:22 AM
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i mean that i tried not to hold it against them that they did not immediately manage to be very interesting or bring forward any appealing sides. if i thought based on the content of the profile we might be a decent match, i went out with them even if they seemed boring and not that sharp. sometimes more than once. as for what counts as something wrong, well i'll give you an example. there was one guy that just barely isn't among the nothing wrong guys. i feel a little bad because i rejected him…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:11 AM
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it's fine to be an npc, much better than main character syndrome. just be a happy npc
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:43 AM
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both are diverse and probably fine or meh on average. what concerns me is the amount and that there isn't much else.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:35 AM
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yeah ofc you don't have to be a failure. but i feel like we have a legitimate excuse
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:26 AM
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i like fat guys
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:25 AM
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It's almost like it's hard to get your personality across in 5 pictures and a paragraph. i agree. i have an ok eye for seeing whether people look passable despite bad pictures. and i spent a lot of time looking for guys with an understanding that they'd be less verbally intelligent and socially literate than i am. it's not a small sacrifice, it's very difficult to be impressed by someone's intelligence when you dominate them totally on the channels you interact and communicate through. but i tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:22 AM
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like a quaternary redditor at most, i don't even log on for months at a time. 2.1 i have autism, i'm allowed to be the family failure 2.2 i have a happy relationship, so i'm okay enough regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:51 AM
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no it's more like, is his free time at home by himself just sorta like reading a magazine in the waiting room at a dentist's office? or like a widowed pensioner leaving angry comments under news articles on facebook all day? i can't imagine this being the main thing i rely on to not feel empty and lonely at night. it doesn't seem enough? i just want him to be okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:36 AM
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feels honestly a little odd to me. why would you want that, rather than for the women in your life to just want to understand you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:31 AM
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you've never done it, i'm the one who's had this problem for a long time. trust me, if you can think of it without being in the situation, i've tried it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:25 AM
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but being here all the time is so much lonelier than being on a few discord servers and playing with your bros
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:23 AM
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we're not close because he keeps the distance. i'm not in a position to do anything for him really, i don't think he trusts me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:14 AM
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thank you 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:11 AM
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no, european
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:08 AM
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am i being stupid? i just found out that my brother (we're not close) is a redditor and now i feel terrible for him. i'm literally crying, i don't cry a lot. he has a job and friends but he's seemed kind of depressed and defeated for a long time. spends too much time on his computer. and now i learn he's not gaming but mostly on here. that just seems really sad? please tell me there are plenty of normal people and wholesome ways to spend time on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:02 AM
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i support this. but could you make the healthy bmi range 19.9-20.1 instead? that's really the healthiest part
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 01:38 AM
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10 year divorce rate is around 20%
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 01:27 AM
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it's no big deal. really offputting how much people make it into one in western culture. an interesting case study for the problems with our scientific process that the superstition around it still holds.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 01:17 AM
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your friends are serious about relationships, ready to commit and know what they want. it's a nightmare trying to look for men like that on the apps. they suck at making themselves clockable and presenting themselves in an interesting and attractive way, or if they don't they're in and out and gone permanently in a nanosecond. most people on the apps at any given moment are those who stay there for a long time, ie. hopeless cases and fuckboys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 01:04 AM
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idk you tell me? i slithered into his life, all he had to do was say yes. but now i am making him move to a different country, sell his apartment (he won't be able to get back into that market later due to gentrification), give up most of his stuff, change a few huge things about himself/how he lives his life, support me financially for several years for reasons not related to having kids, and be the primary caretaker for our kids. and am also otherwise very high maintenance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:37 AM
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hands? sex trafficking! we need to invent like a circumcision but for hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:24 AM
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boo
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:18 AM
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is it like relationship stuff and office politics, or more focused on the court cases?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:16 AM
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don't know either of those people
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:06 AM
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how is it good?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:53 PM
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3-4 but more body fat. maybe 15% or so
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:51 PM
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creepiness is a matter of perception, coming off as suspect or somehow off is literally what the word means. people have ways of figuring things out like for example social literacy, and actually guys looking for women do tend to stick out like a sore thumb. people also tend to be suspicious of guys who join groups by themselves and almost assume they're there to annoy women by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:28 PM
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you never know how the vibes are going to be in a new place, but i hope you find a really wholesome and friendly class and enjoy yourself 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:06 PM
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dude came here to ask what he can do to not be seen as creepy, i told him. you didn't like what i said and came to state that you disagree and don't want people to think the way i'm describing. fine, but imo you should just post your own advice to op and say he can go wherever because it's never creepy actually but right and good. maybe that'll encourage him to not care about how he'll be received by people where he ends up going. or maybe i'm wrong and everyone agrees with you and it's not at a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:03 PM
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cool opinion man 👍 i'm talking about the general perception though
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:50 PM
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no, it's how proper normal science works. bayesian epistemology incorporates the concept into a formal approach, and in philosophy of science it's part of theories like quine's web of belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:46 PM
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no, that's how proper normal science works.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:36 PM
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yes if you do the hobby for real and don't just go through the motions to have an excuse to be there you will likely learn at about the intended pace of the classes. obviously you would typically start with beginner classes. some people will have to work harder to learn some stuff, but you can figure out for yourself what's a worthwhile balance of effort to fun and results for you to stick with it. the point about not sucking was just that if you're obviously not trying or dgaf it's probably goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:32 PM
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that is actually literally how science works? results that are more surprising in light of previous knowledge require a much higher standard of evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:01 PM
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a very motivated reading of my post. guess it made you mad somehow 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 09:57 PM
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it 100% does not exist as conceptualized in the manosphere. it's flat earth tier broscience.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:18 PM
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my dad had an emotionally incestuous relationship with me before i grew up and was consistently able to keep my boundaries. can confirm there's not much of a draw there for a daughter, unlike the mom-son emotional incest cases where the dependence tends to be more mutual.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:10 PM
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uhh sure?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:45 PM
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? seems i read it just fine the first time
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:29 PM
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two autistic parents practically guarantee an autistic child that's not accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:23 PM
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that's obviously an exaggeration but kinda tracks for autistic guys? they do tend to be the best or bottom tier people, very few in betweens.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:54 PM
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it's 100% personality standards. your line is just the foot in the door, the next move if a woman is dumb enough to listen is relentless gaslighting about how what she thinks is good and bad personality is actually still just looks, money and status and what she should do is listen to misogynistic abusive men about who the upstanding men really are. the same kind who will in the next breath start spouting shit about how women don't know what they want and actually need to be treated like shit fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:52 PM
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what are you even talking about atp. why are you still replying
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:45 PM
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have you considered you're too decent for this place (i think that about you) and coming here might be a mild form of self harm, kinda like smoking?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:42 PM
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sorry man, going places that aren't for meeting women to meet women is creepy behavior and you aren't going to escape that perception while doing it unless you're exceptionally charismatic. your only option is to actually get into a scene or hobby. as in develop a sincere interest in it. to the point where you'd keep at it even if it doesn't get you opportunities with women, and you yourself would be annoyed if others were there just for the women, wrecking the scene. the one gray case is dance …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:28 PM
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ooh boy this one depends a lot on what precisely happened. i can see it going both "nah babe it was the right thing to do, glad we got out of there safely" or a half-hearted "it's fine" and dumping him after couple days.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:43 PM
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the reason is that a bunch of disgraced beneficiaries of patriarchy are demanding the restoration of their former power over women and using every trick in the abuser manual to gaslight, darvo, false equivalency, naturalize, justify, obfuscate, nitpick, play dumb, derail, threaten, blackmail, and tantrum the clock back. these people's feelings do not matter. what they feel is entitlement to power over others; that's a feeling that categorically does not matter except as a malign force that in a …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:00 AM
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let me amend my earlier statement for clarity as you don't seem to have followed all that was being implied. here you are defending horrible behavior because you identify with the people doing it, because you agree with their actions and the beliefs that lead to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:29 AM
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well here you are defending horrible behavior because you identify with the people doing it, attacking me because i'm calling it out. you think i'm gonna care that you think i'm a bad person? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:05 AM
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precisely. and now you're working overtime to justify that choice, because you know you can't undo it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:55 AM
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the drop in his approval rating happened right after the afghanistan withdrawal, seems voters really didn't like admitting the us lost that war
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:26 PM
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i don't really follow american politics but i've heard multiple times that his senate career was outstandingly bad. that's a high bar
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:22 PM
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it's like you're posting from a universe where there's nothing between the baltic and the black sea. like you think all blonde people are dutch or swedes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:16 PM
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the kids really sell it. the accents are amazing too
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:05 PM
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it's very simple. bad people who won't fix themselves need to be walked away from. regardless of how high the cost is. very, very funny that you think you can NO U yourself out of having your darvo pointed out to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:48 PM
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what was the source of tension and conflict for the narrative arc? they just put the actual story entirely outside of the relationship like a war or something, and they just incidentally fucked in between actual plot scenes, entirely without any psychodrama because the relationship is so mature and healthy? or did the male lead get cancer, and then the drama was about the main character giving him sponge baths and changing his colostomy bag? why would a woman not like this, i can't understand. m…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:29 PM
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the main fact that explains why he made this post is that he knows he can't become a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:24 PM
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loneliness is a subjective experience, objectively women are much better off socially than men. not that that matters, it's not a competition, game of chicken or a war of attrition. never ceases to baffle me y'all will convince yourselves of things like it's women who have antisocial attitudes toward men and sex. truly the rapist abuser gender making darvo their entire world view.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:28 PM
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i do understand actually, there's a very clear picture forming in my head
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:22 PM
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women are actively choosing it, so it doesn't make sense to call it deserved or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:32 PM
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if those women lie to their husbands then yes, that would be accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:52 PM
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imagine believing you can first purposefully become a bad person and then ever go back to your old self
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:50 PM
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so are you justifying being a bully, convincing yourself to become a bully, or is this more of an excuse to dehumanize women for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:33 PM
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keep following that star
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:20 PM
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yes, women no longer like bullies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:13 PM
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not really! the lore afaik is just one new-ish? experimental research paper, exploratory rather than trying to settle facts. i assume, i have not read it or tracked it down. i suppose i should, if i'm going to give it a try, to see if they have details about how the disclosure was made in a lowkey, neutral, positive way. that's clearly going to have a huge impact on the outcome, i doubt handing out cards like the joker is a good idea. my first instinct is to not apologize or ask for "permission"…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:01 PM
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what do you think i'm arguing?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:34 PM
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lol if you educate your kids at all (tall order for an american i know — good luck with the way literacy is declining over there) they're going to figure feminism out. only way to prevent it is to ensure your kids turn out stupid and ignorant and indoctrinate them into one of your various cults.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:33 PM
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a lot of the time the line goes at whether you take no for an answer and at whether you get angry when you don't get what you want. obviously doesn't cover all possible situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:40 PM
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definitely one of those "you couldn't waterboard this out of me" comments
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:32 PM
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if you think anybody should tolerate men in their lives when they behave like this, then you're clearly never going to think anything is men's fault and they should be coddled and forgiven infinitely. no surprise, plenty enough of y'all are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:29 PM
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was more about the very revealing use of language.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:25 PM
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if you don't blame the men for this, you'll never blame them for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:24 PM
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you are in denial about the basic underlying realities governing gender relations, and are doomed to be confused by everything until you acknowledge them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:17 PM
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no, i have other values besides that, some things are worth a little suffering. it minimizes overall suffering for shitty mean people to be isolated, so they don't cause suffering in others through their presence. obviously the suffering of awful people who bought it on themselves counts for a lot less than that of their innocent victims. not to mention awful people tend to be pretty miserable irrespective of how many chances they're given. note that i don't advocate for the lonely assholes to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:04 PM
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i don't want humanity to suffer. that's exactly why i want humanity to leave mean shitty people behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:52 PM
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the wojak in the meme is a ukrainian nazi. don't know, don't care about whoever made or posted it. the argument lol it's a meme dude
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:51 PM
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what? walking away from shitty, mean people is objectively the kindest possible thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:41 PM
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yeah too bad the men can't pull themselves together.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:19 PM
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again, this meme is not about "settling" and absolutely rules out any feelings of love or even extending basic humanity to your partner. the partner is being made the butt of an extremely cruel joke. depicted as the source of his shame and humiliation, being with her as an undignified fate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:08 PM
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it's about the lying. just like it's the lying that even makes cheating bad in the first place. nothing wrong with a mutually agreed upon open marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:04 PM
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so men just don't know the meaning of the word "required" and women do?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:02 PM
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ahh so you're just actually fully on board with and justifying being a horribly evil person. my bad, thought you were saying something more substantive than telling on yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:59 PM
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this isn't "settling", this is being with someone you have contempt for and utterly dehumanize. consenting adults etc, but you actually have to get the consent. INFORMED consent. being dishonest about how you actually feel about them and justifying it with "what they don't know can't hurt them, and if they don't feel loved they can always leave" is exactly as wrong as not asking for an open marriage but just going behind their back, and writing it off with "what they don't know can't hurt them, …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:52 PM
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good, i wouldn't want to hurt your feelings. just expressing a political opinion here, no need to make it personal
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:44 PM
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good, i wouldn't want to hurt your feelings. just expressing a political opinion here, no need to make it personal
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:44 PM
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you're conflating two separate issues here. a romantic relationship can fulfill many basic needs it is often challenging to get met elsewhere. but just a relationship does next to nothing to make life meaningful. expecting it to is setting yourself up for failure and disappointment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:39 PM
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not good enough. you could justify cheating the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:27 PM
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one detail a lot of people seem to be overlooking is that the guy is a ukrainian nazi
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:23 PM
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no one is "lesser" than a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:13 PM
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"lesser person"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:01 PM
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if they're open about how they feel then it's a choice their partners can make. that's not what happens actually though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:59 AM
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a lot of men end up settling with women they don't want to actually be with. But women don't understand that some men will quite literally die alone. And to them, being with someone they may not even like that much is better than being alone. it's not better for their partners though. if that's their choice they should die alone rather than use another person like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:56 AM
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i concur with the quote tweets. the male loneliness epidemic is fully self-inflicted and deserved and needs to get much worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:52 AM
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very woke of you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:27 AM
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yes they are? they start out as moody and dangerous to provide tension and drama for the narrative and a vehicle for sexual fantasy, but by the end they're perfect husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:37 AM
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Praise from family is not what this post is about. i know. it's about how women have to date op. and you, by the sound of it lol So a hyperminority of men? Thanks for proving OP's point. OBVIOUSLY, if you weren't RETARDED, that was an instruction of how to easily find examples of a thing op claims never happens. i can't tell him to look up private individuals or things happening between them in the real world. any searchable examples are going to involve more or less public figures. it also util…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:27 AM
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agreeableness is not spinelessness nor spinelessness agreeable, common mistake though
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:15 AM
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my model is as follows: agreeableness is uncomplicatedly attractive. however in our retard degenerate monkey culture, aspects of agreeableness are conflated with submissiveness and spinelessness (both ways! spineless people and plain losers often think of themselves as nice, and are often validated in this through others' superficial perceptions) and healthy boundaries are (somewhat context-dependently) perceived as disagreeable. male attractiveness is closely tied up with the male gender role, …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:12 AM
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it was a statement. the question mark at the end indicates that the answer is so extremely obvious i am questioning why you would even ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:52 AM
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you want to actually discuss the evidence? cause it's a very involved conversation and it's not really worth it if you're just looking for something quick to throw at me to save face after i expressed doubt any evidence could change y'alls mind on this. it's okay to say you don't want to hear it. i fully support men living their truth on this (except any individual man i care about). that's a terrible paper to cite for your specific claim. (i could find a better one; it's still not true.) the pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:18 AM
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the exact same thing is true of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:15 AM
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no.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:06 AM
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low agreeableness is unattractive, but this is one of those things pillbrained men will never believe no matter what evidence is presented, so they should just live their truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:18 AM
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it's become my main fear since i met my partner. even if we do get kids it would still be the literal worst possible thing, especially if the kids are small. it's one of those situations where the pressure and grief are immense but you can't even die
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:57 AM
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have you ever heard of the forest troop baboons? it's pretty clear that if the worst 10% of young men started shit and got shot it would actually benefit mankind immensely.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:34 AM
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if a man wants to date he's free to either do what he can to try to make it happen, or accept he might not get what he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:28 AM
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what an absolutely schizo take. "disqualified for failing to make the first move"? insane logic. no, that's just not being that interested. yes, women "feel" they don't have to approach men. they're right and don't? it's voluntary. no implications on empathy or dehumanization whatsoever. you're talking as if you think women who would like to eventually find a connection with a man therefore owe something to men in general. that doesn't make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:21 AM
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is your whole thing passive aggressive confrontation through pretending to be dumb, or do you actually both read and regulate emotions at a 5th grade level?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:50 AM
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it's in the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:47 AM
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i don't really see any similarity or connection between the two. "a guy who knows himself, respects himself, and thus has healthy standards and boundaries in his life and relationships" is not how i would ever describe a redpiller. i don't see any reason why a redpiller who feels the need to lie about his beliefs would come across as being the kind of guy you described, or why that kind of guy would ever seem like a redpiller. there are a lot of liars, abusers, narcissists etc of all kinds prete…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:40 AM
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...so, this WAS a bait and switch about women needing to date you all along. go get your validation from other men. better yet, start leading by example and giving it to them first.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:34 PM
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this is why i didn't even mention younger women validating men as a possibility. it's fully ruled out by exactly this behavior. you really need to learn to just take a compliment and not pay it back with starting a whole unwanted thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:29 PM
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thanks. me too
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:25 PM
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then why did you bring up having sex with women who compliment and validate men at all in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:24 PM
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so the topic is actually fully about sexual access to women now?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:20 PM
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how did this suddenly go from being about validation and praise to women putting out?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:17 PM
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nah man it's something you do with your entire body. most autistic guys lack the circuits that manage social processing, those are incredibly powerful and efficient, trying to compensate with your conscious bandwith is a complete non-starter. if you think your intellect is that all-powerful that's a sign you're doing a terrible job of making use of it since you're so unaware of its limitations. protecting delusions like that is a full time job.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:14 PM
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it's a matter of finding your auntie and grandma choir. granted, not every guy has ready access to one, but also i feel like that sort of thing is not valued by men? validation from older women is just discounted or even considered an embarrassment? like those aren't the people men want recognition from. that pretty much narrows it down to men becoming more supportive toward each other. which would be great, but i'm not holding my breath.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:07 PM
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that seems a little contradictory. you want me to find you an example, online, of a person who gets a lot of attention but is neither an influencer nor an irl public figure?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:54 PM
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are celebrities not men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:52 PM
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maybe you should go look at the men who get ample praise from women sometimes. that's not even slightly rare. the eternal choir of aunties and grandmas loves nothing more than to tell good boys they are that. it's very easy to find, literally look for ANY dude who makes content for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:46 PM
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relationships yes, flirting no unless they're the type of autism haver who is not held back by it in any way whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:39 PM
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not that many people on here seem like that's within their scope? i always pursued primarily a deep intellectual connection. feels cringe in hindsight if i'm honest. i used to hold genuine dialogue (collaborative, creative, substantive conversation where each statement is in response to earlier ones and builds on them, participants egos are set aside and there is an effort to achieve true understanding and communication and harmonize paradigms) as the goal and standard, but that really is quite …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:29 PM
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also, you don't seem like your soul is very internet poisoned, that's good. try to keep it that way. i hope you find love.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 09:38 PM
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i'm audhd and engaged to an autistic man. someone in your position doesn't have a whole lot to lose by trying something different. there's lore out there that experimentally allistics clock masking in less than a second, and it gives them the creeps largely because it looks indistinguishable from predatory narcissistic/antisocial masking that falls just short of efficacy, right in the uncanny valley. same lore says a significant percentage of them will revert to seeing you as just a normal perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 09:34 PM
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also like, a counterproposal for a meeting spot is a commonly used screening tactic because literally every normal person will accept it totally without resistance, but some narcissists and abusers will immediately try to assert control.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 08:35 PM
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let's put it this way. imagine you were approached by a porn bot account online, and had reasonable concerns about being catfished. the porn bot then suggests you meet up in a secluded location. well, since they want to meet up irl, you might get to find out they weren't a bot after all! but the secluded location sets off some alarms that the scam here is that the catfish is luring you to be mugged. you then say you'd rather meet in a public place for the first time, as is the normal thing to do…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 08:31 PM
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a realistic male version of me is either dead or an addict. but if i looked like my dad, then the addict version of me would be reaping that bipolar/addict pussy with a goddamn combine harvester. if i had whatever cognitive or psychological normal male flaw that makes them get into the shittiest, most abusive relationships without hesitation i'd be constantly in relationships too. but i would always cheat so i'd be constantly getting in and out of them. i don't think harder or easier really appl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 08:10 PM
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tbh i doubt it. that sounds fishy af
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:22 PM
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what exactly do you think the game is here? what is she doing differently and more craftily than any other woman pursuing the same high value guy? pretending to be more desirable than she really is by working extra hard to maintain a facade? hiding her needs and desires and not asking him for anything? tolerating bad behavior from him? that literally sounds like the most basic and obvious dumb bitch plan in existence. it's basically what lowest common denominator media tells us we should do to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 05:06 PM
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i understand that is the view here, i am just baffled as to why.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 04:40 PM
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yes, i asked out of curiosity, i'm not arguing against you i'm still curious and asking. Saying she could have been nicer about it is not "preferring to have my feelings managed like a toddler", anymore than asking for any degree of kindness is. i agree expecting kindness is not that. it's more in what your idea of what is kind in any given situation is. i was surprised that anyone would think something like this is offensive or taboo and needs to be hidden from view, so was trying to probe furt…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 04:38 PM
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the SEXUAL MARKETPLACE model seems to have convinced a lot of too online people that there exists an endless pool of every possible iteration of potential partners and there's some kind of frictionless process where you input your stats and cash in their equivalent amount of smv tokens and then get like a character creation sheet where you allocate your smv tokens to various traits and then the endless pool of possible partners delivers that when you boot up tinder. like when you customize your …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 04:31 PM
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i'm not saying that at all, i mean, you obviously can't literally ask for it because that's impractical beforehand and meaningless afterwards. but you certainly can be put off by it. i'm just expressing surprise that anyone would prefer to have their feelings managed like they were a toddler in a situation like this. both people are adults, both understand that the express purpose of the meeting is establishing trust, which obviously implies it can't be there yet. but referencing this when actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 04:05 PM
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bad strategy. that's a man advising women to give men everything right off the bat, even go further than that and give more than you're actually sustainably able to do, and hope he will eventually want to voluntarily start giving her something in return. you're just never going to get what you want that way, unless what you want is to serve a man who doesn't respect you and get none of your needs met. it might make sense if you're going for a guy who is so rich that it pays off that way, but the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:51 PM
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Rejecting for safety: she should have just lied. Not unreasonable, but not exactly a great starter to a relationship to be so forward about not trusting somebody. It is kind of a slap in the face. wouldn't that be a little odd, to coddle his feelings to such an extreme extent, worse than you should a toddler? like, it's a universal thing for first meetings with internet people, basic safety rule that men are advised to follow too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:33 PM
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one of the most attractive things about a guy is when they have extreme niche hobbies that require a minimum semi-professional level expertise they go to extreme lengts for. this guy is obviously replicating the original alchemy experiment which lead to the discovery of phosphorus. he seems to be doing the urine collection and evaporation phases simultaneously. by the looks of it, he may have already done some of the boiling down and maybe rotting too
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:27 PM
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that's actually not an issue at all if you take care to communicate accurately. no bullshitting or implied fake promises, and enough effort to avoid keeping her from committing to plans, and it'll just be a silly, charming, sometimes a little annoying quirk.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:19 PM
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all feelings are in the body. even thoughts are in the body. people assume feelings are like thoughts, but the average thought is much more transient and shallow than a feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:14 PM
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q4 the man camp in the man vs bear war: how well do you think this interaction went? how would you rate each person's reasonableness and behavior? https://x.com/notcapnamerica/status/1793343486260838404 personally, i think he should have admitted he's a bear and that's why he prefers fishing over meeting in a crowded public place.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:10 PM
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keep on dramatically slamming the door then
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:50 PM
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it's more effective if you say it directly at every undesirable woman who approaches you. i'm sure it gets tedious with how many there must be, but at least they'll all just try once.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:43 PM
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it's getting really funny to see 8 posts on the tl every day about how each sex has given up on dating. y'all, no need to keep declaring your departure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:38 PM
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well obviously it's not possible to generalize about all divorce. you asked specifically in the context of women leaving their marriages. but yes, there's an inequality and an asymmetry at play there that can be summarized as men bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:33 PM
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men don't pull their weight and do the tolerable level of permanent unhappiness at their spouse until eventually she realizes it's never getting better. there's no remedy. only men who actually want to participate in their relationship and family should be with women. but no one's going to regulate this obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:25 PM
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do it outdoors in soft natural light woth
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:24 PM
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np
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:16 PM
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sorry to hear that. whatever it is, hopefully it's on its way out. the numbness in itself is a very common sife effect, but usually it stops when the meds are discontinued or a little while after. sometimes it persists months or years. i don't know very much about this, just things that i've happened to read or hear. you'll find better information than i can give you by googling. i'd try elsewhere on reddit, and those database sites where people review prescription medications, and google schola…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:03 PM
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quite decent looking guy, but yes that's a terrible pic
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 06:32 PM
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seconding that. i only knew one woman who married an older man in her early 20s, she wasn't much to look at but what truly made her unattractive was her personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 06:29 PM
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most people are fine on them, however a small number will get bad side effects (can for instance just lose feeling in your genitals and ability to experience sexual pleasure entirely) that never pass even after you quit the meds. the rates are not known because this is not considered important by the pharma corps or shrinks. my main gripe with them is that they don't really help. a lot of people swear they do, and will defend to the death their right to take ssris. whatever, if someone feels tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 06:16 PM
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(certain) men's public appearance is totally unappealing because they always look their worst. they don't understand the concepts of self care, civilization, actively looking good for their dignity and self esteem, or as a form of self expression (they express that they're socially unaware, unappealing slobs), or to honor a special occasion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 01:59 PM
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nah it's the posting about virginity, sub-21 bmi etc
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 10:05 PM
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"Some facts & myth-busting about incels from the best quantitative research we have on incels to date: Incels don’t seem to be pickier nor have unreasonable standards relative to non-incel men (Image 1). Incels misperceive female mating preferences more than non-incel men (Image 2). Incels especially misperceive the female desire for kindness and intelligence in a mate (two of the top and most robustly desirable traits in evolutionary psychology). Incels are neither disproportionately White nor …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 09:11 PM
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i keep mixing his name up with another male given name from his culture that starts with the same letter. i've never known anyone called that and don't know why i can't stop the mixup from happening. it's mortifying
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:48 PM
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losing it at the dramatic music
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 03:07 PM
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finally the bear debate makes sense. men are just ridiculously scared of all big animals in the woods https://twitter.com/Human101Nature/status/1788645114019246260
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 03:06 PM
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he never will 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 05:07 AM
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what about both at the same time? 😇
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 09:26 PM
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the standard reason. it's kind of involved to explain
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 06:22 PM
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exact same way as racism against white people. you can hate men or white people, but it's not analogous to misogyny or racism
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 05:57 PM
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misandry doesn't exist so it couldn't be
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 04:51 PM
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a lot of competition in the male redpill sector. quite oversaturated
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:30 AM
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well that one's a joke ofc but it obliquely represents one of her actual beliefs (that men don't have souls)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:28 AM
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for anyone who wants to understand the female redpill, radfemhitler on twitter is an excellent follow https://twitter.com/hollowearthterf
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:07 AM
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haha yeah i hate losing too
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:24 PM
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this was fun bro. night
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:19 PM
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there's no need to put others down to feel better about yourself. let go of the shame, just let go. there's nothing wrong with being on psychiatric medication. it won't make you feel better in the long term for using your own prescriptions as insults. i know you want to feel like you're better than people on antipsychotics, but there is nothing to be ashamed about needing pills. you'll be okay. 🙂 probably your dick will start working again too
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:14 PM
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oh, the good atypicals are doing it for you? that's good, that's good. shush now, you're okay, you'll be okay. it's fine if you've gained 100lbs, you're still you, you'll be okay and that's all that matters. nothing to be ashamed about. you're a very brave boy. you did the right thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:05 PM
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he literally had "could be raped any time" in the post when i replied and then edited to that lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:00 PM
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it's okay i don't mean anything by it man i'm proud of you for seeking help. i hope they find something that works for you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:44 PM
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is he gonna do something about it? something illegal? or is this just about what's in his heart?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:38 PM
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We should be pushing central African countries to become more like asian countries, not the other way around. but that would mean letting them develop. never gonna happen until we no longer have any power over it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:11 PM
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oh shit that's quetiapine not sertraline right? you 280 lbs bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 07:38 PM
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what do you know about ssris bro, your dick not work anymore? 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 07:35 PM
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and btw to me all this still reads as you trying to police the precautions women take and what kind of discussions they have about them. granted that's not literally the same as trying to get us to stop, but i don't see a qualitative difference. the specific thing i said i am open to is hearing an alternative interpretation of what men are trying to accomplish with their "criticisms". if you want veto on what precautions or speech is acceptable, that amounts to the same thing as asking us to sto…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 07:30 PM
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thanks, i love being a misandrist 😇
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 07:21 PM
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Lmao citing a review ... that's the point of a review? to aggregate data for a quick representative summary? How you assess and deal with other, especially greater risks, will always be relevant to how seriously your specific threat assessment gets taken. Stamp your feet and cry all you like; you'll still be wrong :) look it's perfectly fine if you don't take my problems or other women's problems seriously, it's really no different than what we expect. this is for our decisionmaking, which is su…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 07:14 PM
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what do you think the worst video of a man doing something to a woman online might be like? information giving by wildlife experts oh, i thought i hadn't heard any that supports your case. i didn't know you were a wildlife expert?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 07:06 PM
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well, if our gold standard evidence of the worst that can happen in a bear attack and worst that can happen in a man attack is what you can find video of online, i'm still going to have to pick the bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 07:00 PM
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no source on there, no info on the representativeness of the sample so i'm gonna go with, say https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40618-023-02196-z the reasons you're actively refusing to address they're absolute nonsense. acceptance or not of other risks has no bearing whatsoever on how justifiable precautions against rape and violence from men are. you've done absolutely nothing to show there's any kind of connection, just stated that To be effective, they need to be consistent and prop…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:46 PM
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loooool so because women vote dem, exist in the same places as cars, and are fat (men are fatter than women btw), they can't be justifiably concerned with rape checkmate
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:21 PM
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yup, getting your info from BEAR ATTACK vids and not reputable sources, like i thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:00 PM
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some people don't know what's good for them smh
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:49 PM
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lol the amount of times i've googled bears and bear attacks in the last week and that has never once come up. also never once heard anything like that in the many times i've been taught what to do if i encounter a bear. some high risk of bear predation against humans is in fact completely at odds with everything i've ever read from reliable sources or been taught. sounds like something teenagers tell each other over a campfire, or a claim from some sensational bear attack documentary.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:29 PM
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i continue to not know it. you're just some rando online, offer no sources and don't seem terribly bright or honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:21 PM
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but it isn't wrong of me to look out for my own safety with strange men, or to discuss it publicly. it hurts some men's feelings, but it is strictly necessary for mine and other women's safety, so that just weighs more on the scale. that's life, there's sometimes tradeoffs. i'm sorry it makes you upset. i'm not going to start fighting the "narrative" that women should take reasonable precautions around strange men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:18 PM
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nope, i know no such thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:12 PM
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it's just facts man. all of it. every man IS a potential rapist if i don't know them and sometimes even if i do. if you offer me a totally life-changing sum for it i'm going to sleep with even you assuming it is safe and i'm actually going to get the money. so yeah, isn't the rest about haggling over the price like that charming old joke says? if you claim you don't have a price for taking dick too you're either lying, already loaded, a coward, or frankly pretty dumb. lord knows there's already …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:50 PM
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makes sense. good luck with your hunt
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:37 PM
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can't you get the dry ingredients where you live and make it yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:33 PM
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i had a phase like that in 2018. then it passed incredibly suddenly and i'm left with a cupboard full of expired powdered miso :/ the paste is amazing for cooking almost anything, but i have no idea what to so about the powder
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:30 PM
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how safe and busy is broadway? i don't know what you're saying here. secluded locations alone with no witnesses or help is what the woods stands for. not a busy place that someone has maybe heard bad things about, or hasn't, i don't fucking know. i can name many streets where i'd be safe 24/7 where i live, too, i live on one. also, SHOULD the woman do it if she wanted to be safe? like, are you saying that because not all smokers die from disease caused by smoking, it's fine?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:04 PM
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both are a part of the pattern i was referencing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:00 PM
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lol so you can't even imagine men facing any actual harm from women just hurt feelings? and you think there's an evenhanded comparison to be had on these terms?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:59 PM
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i would actually really like to see a bear in the wild, they're cool. of course ideally you'd stipulate more safety considerations than just the very open-ended "in the woods with a bear". but since the vast majority of bear encounters don't lead to attacks and the great majority of attacks aren't very serious, and since any human attack would be massively more traumatic than an equivalently physically harmful attack by a bear, i happily choose bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:55 PM
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partly because women actively avoid putting themselves in vulnerable situations. in the scenario as stated, alone in a remote location, just the type of situation a rapist would consider a great opportunity, it goes up by quite a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:51 PM
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you could be raped any time though? not EVERY time, but ANY time please tell me you understand the difference because i'm just losing faith in humanity over how many don't seem to
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:49 PM
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have you somehow missed that the entire point for women is avoiding people who would hurt them in situations where they could hurt them? that's some heroic dodging of clues
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:32 PM
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ma'am, even though the specific word was not used; you are describing functionally the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:28 PM
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the explanation is further down the chain. it's not a strawman, it's simply my best attempt at trying to figure out what the men are actually saying. i am open to having it refuted the moment someone provides me any credible alternative for what else they could possibly be trying to accomplish.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:27 PM
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if you can't figure out why women behave the way they do around risk, i'm unable to take your own word for being able to evaluate your own behavior for irrationality. cheers
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:22 PM
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if you feel under threat from sex workers under specific circumstances where they might do you harm, yeah it's probably best that you don't get into those situations with stranger women without vetting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:20 PM
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people take risks sometimes and not at other times. people weigh their other desires against risks. people are more conscious of some risks than others. you do it too. why not nitpick your own behavior instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:16 PM
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well the science is indeed being "shaped" by "political and social realities" that old song and dance about being "censored" while you're on primetime tv discussing your report that you had generous funding from the government to make, and that has already been adopted by major political parties as the basis of their policy, has a long tradition that goes right back to the nazis and has never once been used in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:10 PM
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there is no reasonable world where "discussing things openly" has to mean creating intentionally misleading media content presented by experts and prominent media organisations that relies on exploiting most people's well known and easily manipulable cognitive and emotional vulnerabilities and the reality that few have the expert background or time to check whether it's all bullshit or not. that's where we're currently at.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:56 PM
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yup, they won't really do any of this in any meaningful recognisable sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:48 PM
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men reacting with emotion to facts again 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:41 PM
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the cass report is a politically commissioned hatchet job.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:29 PM
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categorically, no. the kind of solutions that would work are not possible under the current political system.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:19 PM
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i won't go so far as to say it's father daughter incest roleplay most of the time, but the way they talk about the size difference does raise some questions
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:16 PM
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if you want to avoid bear attacks, while intruding in the bear's home mind you, you are told again and again to keep your dog on a leash or leave it home, and make noise, never surprise a bear. don't specifically stalk, approach from downwind, or, you know, threaten the bear's life first.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:06 PM
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are British people even less fat than Americans atp?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 12:58 PM
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it is usually the human's fault when bear attacks happen at least where i live. it's mostly hunters who go sneaking in the woods or bring dogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 12:56 PM
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one of the worst fetishes i swear. those people have plausible deniability about how much it is a sex thing, and because it aligns with the general heteronormative bs, they are conditioned to expect praise and validation from the lowest common denominator boomer/facebook constituency when they go around making people listen to their creepy repulsive sex talk. kinkshaming needs to be extended to these freaks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 12:53 PM
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men telling women it's really not that bad have no skin in the game no idea what they're talking about aren't willing to listen when explained this always have the option to just not say anything -> shows they aren't doing it to help the women, shows they couldn't care less about the women being safe or not. so, what are they then doing it for? seemingly their goal is mainly to get women to shut up. if they can't quite convince women to stop taking precautions, they will at least push back on wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 12:39 PM
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not directly violent no.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 12:33 PM
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women do get over their fear of men all the time to be able to exist in society. they just won't stop taking precautions or discussing those precautions, and asking them to stop is indeed not a cool thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 12:17 PM
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that's really sad. i wish a sitcom found family situation to all of them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 12:12 PM
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have a nice day then
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 11:26 AM
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and the vast majority of bear encounters do not lead to attacks either?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 11:22 AM
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if you won't accept 5-15%, what would you accept?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 11:17 AM
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if we have some sort of established connection i would sit him down and try to explain to him why what he's doing is unnecessary and counterproductive, and how to pursue love and happiness more effectively. maybe support his first steps in that. if he's just someone who isn't my problem, i would avoid him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 11:15 AM
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i would stop doing anything else, only take breaks for rest :(
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 11:11 AM
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well i'm sure you can see how the error could have happened on my part, especially given that you're still posting about it. actions speak louder than words. but fine, i'll stop referring to your feelings altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 10:56 AM
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just from an intellectual scientific perspective, the kind of stuff you hear being passed around is offensive. it's misapplied from what was junk science to begin with. if even uneducated women are too smart and grounded to accept broscience arguments over their own experience, that's good on them and you should respect them for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 10:51 AM
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well i thought you were arguing that women are being offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 10:43 AM
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so you're not offended about the risk calculus itself, you're offended about the result? okay, i think that is workable. would you be willing to hear my case why i see the comparison as valid, to see what in my process is objectionable?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 10:35 AM
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it's not the misunderstandings, although those can happen too i guess. it's that when you can't tell that gives you an uncanny feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 10:32 AM
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yup! and these numbers aren't even the thing women actually base their risk calculus on. it's the ubiquitous threatening behavior they've experienced from men since 11 years old. most of it goes entirely under the radar for men and doesn't show up in any statistic. whereas bears avoid people, the vast majority of bear encounters do not lead to bear attacks, and at least where i live most attacks aren't serious. animals have no ill will and an attack is going to be a lot less traumatizing than ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 10:28 AM
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what was the generalization in the bear discourse?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 10:17 AM
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they're very uncanny. a lot of weird facial things have an effect way beyond just being a flaw in appearance, in that they get in the way of interpreting facial expressions, following their line of sight etc. which is unsettling. my personal thing i am irrationally put off by are large prominent facial moles. my animal brain keeps giving out disgust and threat signals — this person has a stain or a bug on their face, alert them!! i don't know if adhd and the 'tism have something to do with just …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 10:15 AM
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what's on ex-tradwife tiktok?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 10:08 AM
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if it's so simple surely you can explain it? you're certainly spending the time and effort already, offering deflections and excuses. i'm listening.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 10:04 AM
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you absolutely can change my mind here. i'm 100% willing to hear you out. i swear. I think you’re probably capable of discussing these topics in a less gender generalized way tell me how?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:53 AM
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no i'm engaged to a man not a bear. 0 bear friends, many good male friends
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:48 AM
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if men's feelings are hurt from women discussing their risk calculus publically, it seems to be. since you won't say how women could discuss it in a way that would not hurt men's feelings. give specific instructions. point out the unacceptable generalization that happened in the bear discourse so we can avoid it next time. no one is willing to do this, and i must suspect it's because they do just want us to shut up and are full of shit crying crocodile tears.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:44 AM
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to your edit: why is it a false dichotomy? in order for it to be a false dichotomy, there would have to be a third option. i have repeatedly asked you to explain what the third option is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:35 AM
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but as i am making it very clear, i do see it that way and you are unwilling to provide any argument for why it it isn't so, or an alternative way of seeing the situation. so i will naturally be proceeding from the only view i have, which you seemingly cannot seriously dispute.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:34 AM
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i prefer that men's feelings are hurt over women being denied the right to consider their own safety, when it's a choice of either or.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:31 AM
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i do not understand. there's prejudice and then there is a risk calculus. i take this bowing out as an admission that you want to deny the latter to women because it hurts your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:25 AM
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where did the generalization happen in the bear example?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:17 AM
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to your edit: what is the concrete, actual difference? not unfairly characterize people (men) as being a violent sex offenders based solely on their sex is there any version of acknowledging the danger from unfamiliar, unvetted men that does not in your opinion unfairly based solely on their sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:15 AM
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man still bear
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:12 AM
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because men do pose a danger to women we have to navigate in our lives and it's critically important for that that we are able to talk about it amongst ourselves and exchange notes. also i don't think this aspect of our experience is something that should be taboo in broader discourse. men should also be aware of it. but that's not as important, and this whole round of discourse has shown that y'all aren't ready to hear it at all and nothing good is going to come from seeking any sympathy, the t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:11 AM
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so the two first on my list? do you not see why that is not acceptable?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:59 AM
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i would choose a woman from any religion, minority, or culture over the bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:52 AM
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stalkers, harrassers, creeps. 5-15% of men admit to having raped in different samples. in some, 30% admit they would rape if given the opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:49 AM
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it's been tried multiple times and the reality is women do not care in the slightest. which is one part of why it's very difficult for us to take this outrage seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:46 AM
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because they have no concrete request for how we could show them consideration. i get that it feels bad! but sometimes you just have to recognise it's not about you or your feelings. the only suggestions offered were that women should stop considering men dangerous that women should stop talking about how men are dangerous to them that women should start policing other women and join the men piling on to them for saying men are dangerous to women do you see why this is not acceptable?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:44 AM
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because we get to choose men we are involved with in our personal lives. i don't think almost any man i know personally would be any kind of threat to me in the woods.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:38 AM
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a lot of men are willing to put in the work to understand women's reality what does this look like, in your view? because this is the one thing that was entirely missing from the male reaction to the bear discourse, which is exactly why there was pushback.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:21 AM
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it's supposed to be sponge cake lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:18 AM
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soccer is absolutely great for kids who get really into it! they're set with a social circle for life if they're lucky. much improved social skills/confidence over individual sports or nothing. only thing i don't like is the cost, intensity and injury rate
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:18 AM
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he's gay and uses 23yo models as beards the models get a career boost
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:03 PM
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it is not. statistically women with older husbands die younger
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:01 PM
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some of that seems a lil harsh and risky and illegal
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:30 PM
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i would say learning a commodified view of sex early on is a huge issue. porn also overwhelmingly has some really toxic dynamics that will be normalized for him. and yeah the whole dopamine circuit is activated to reinforce learning. terrible
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:27 PM
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i thank the autism gods every day that my fiancé is also autistic. everything is just so much simpler
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:24 PM
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that's a very powerful move. i would feel like i'm managing the other person's feelings considerably more than i'm comfortable with, but if you are actually able to pull that off without having it all come down like a house of cards at some point you're playing at a completely different level
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:13 PM
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true, or maybe a bulimic
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:08 PM
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it's really dense when it's supposed to be spongy. dude skipped the baking soda
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:07 PM
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if baking is not your thing you're definitely better off buying cupcakes or something. making pancakes etc
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:05 PM
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most people seem to think the cake looks disgusting and she was trying to avoid eating it without saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:04 PM
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🤢 tbh thinking about porn is making me feel like i probably can't handle parenting and shouldn't have any kids. how are you supposed to deal with them seeing that stuff at 10 years old and learning about sex through that. some great points in there, thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:01 PM
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did this woman have unreasonable inflated standards? https://twitter.com/Green27484917/status/1787626516056101258
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 09:42 PM
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yup, that's the reason why used men come so heavily discounted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 09:29 PM
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i guess it could just be around here. north europe
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 09:21 PM
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yes, definitely one of my concerns, especially wrt. bullying. also the greater difficulty of getting boys to accept/develop discipline, and the greater risk at every turn that they'll drop out of the herd so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 09:17 PM
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and i wanna make it clear that i am talking about cohabitation because it's insanely easy. people are moving in by the 5th date and it's not even rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 09:10 PM
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cute and wholesome, except not 100% on the knee thing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 09:03 PM
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idk, don't know many cases where it was a goal for these ladies. honestly seems kinda like after a while you just have to make it clear that's what you want, and if you're having kids a given.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 09:02 PM
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yeah same, i was just wondering if there's like hacks to deal with the boy-specific troubles, or pitfalls i'm not aware of.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 08:55 PM
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if you're a late 30s woman, first-rounder and willing to take a divorced dad in his 40s it's the easiest pipeline to cohabitation i've ever seen for women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 08:53 PM
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Q4M how would you raise a son well? what special issues are there to consider, and how would you address them? what in your opinion is the goal in raising a boy?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 08:39 PM
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worse: shit for pay no respect
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 08:32 PM
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my take on gender relations is just too correct, they can't handle it. the people hated jesus for telling the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 08:01 PM
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if things like ass grabs were included, the stat would be very close to 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:55 PM
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that would be a "my t-shirt has people asking a lot of questions already answered by my t-shirt" situation
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:41 PM
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what marriage to chad kroger does to a mf
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:39 PM
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i would not say so if 100% honest there's no reason to be honest though, and it just avoids a lot of confusion if i accept and affirm Some People's perception of myself so yes i'm a misandrist, #KillAllMen
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:31 PM
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i would guess that yes, but the connection is just being less trad
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:22 PM
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yup! in that sense it's desirable that sex selection stays legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:13 PM
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won't say anything for sex selecting girls but definitely should not be having any sons
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:07 PM
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what % drunk girls in the bar toilet queue?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:05 PM
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well i wish you god speed in your efforts
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:03 PM
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probably can't! like it would be great if it was possible, but here idk how you'll get people to agree
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:59 PM
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i don't mean or think it's like evil or something to have kids. i will if i can it's just that i understand where people with concerns are coming from and it was something i & fh had to discuss and reconcile before starting to fuck raw
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:45 PM
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woo congrats to you and him!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:41 PM
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"Old debates around sex selection focused on the wish for sons. Today in America, that preference is often reversed. One study found that white parents picked female embryos 70 percent of the time. (Parents of Indian and Chinese descent were more likely to pick boys.) Anecdotes back this up, with message boards filled with moms dreaming of a “mini me.” A 2010 study showed that American adoptive parents were 30 percent more likely to prefer girls than boys and were willing to pay $16,000 more in …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:41 PM
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MISANDRY https://slate.com/technology/2024/05/ivf-daughters-toxic-masculinity-sex-selection.html
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:39 PM
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worse than that could happen yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:31 PM
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not really my point there. but since you ask, the best time period of human history the inevitable crash
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:27 PM
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they actually are really dense though. it's not as satisfying when they don't understand it. need the raw force of a slur to get through
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:24 PM
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seems a bit of a non sequitur? the israelis are doing genocide, yet middle class americans think it's "unethical" to swat people?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:20 PM
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yes, they're thin skinned about it though. nothing will ever be so easy to ignore that it won't at some point become suppressed. they'll continue to narrow the allowable until there's too much pushback
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:16 PM
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but it would have gone to a good cause
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:10 PM
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yup. this concept does not work if you can't call retards retards
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:03 PM
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nothing effective is ever considered valid by the people who wanna keep doing what they're doing in peace
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:02 PM
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did you say yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:01 PM
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maybe you're just impressed by a different type of physique? anything with visible abs leaves me completely indifferent, but i understand it's not easy to achieve. those are two separate things
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:58 PM
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hopefully it will be, doesn't appear we'll hit that goal though
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:52 PM
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human population kept increasing then. will start contracting by a lot by the end of the century. 2150 latest the exact same level of pain and struggle feels very different on your way up than on your way down
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:49 PM
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extinction is definitely on the table, although on a 1000 year timeline, not by 2050-2100 or anything like that. until then it's just material poverty, disease, famine, water shortages and natural disasters. a ton of death all around you, constant decline and basically no hope things could get better within your or your child's lifetime, and very slim odds they can get better ever again.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:46 PM
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The world isnt shit in any long term sense you'll learn some pretty heavy things about climate change over the next 20-30 years
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:40 PM
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yea
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:37 PM
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the problems today are qualitatively different from most eras in history. climate change and social atomization are unique compared to anything else in history. we live in a declining society, which is unusual and has lead to lower birthrates before. this is the first era in which having kids is socially and practically genuinely optional. the cost is historically speaking high and the standard for socially acceptable care also. it does make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:36 PM
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don't you wanna go on some other sub where they'll take this seriously? r/dailywire or something
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:28 PM
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yeah i was trying to be funny about it. i'll leave it up, just on second reading when you replied it felt like i didn't hit the right tone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:25 PM
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well i am?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:14 PM
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lol you're really boneheaded did you know that? it's funny. i'm almost starting to like you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:14 PM
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i don't mean to be mean, i have it too. just trying to say you might be being a little impervious to something here. but it did come out perhaps a little unkind and anyway not my place, so when you've seen this downvote or something and i'll delete ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:09 PM
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it doesn't matter if the texts didn't match up with the date experience. i get that it's jarring to have the tone change so completely, but it doesn't really change anything here. it's weird to ask that stuff, especially multiple times & not take hints, if you don't yet have a more established connection to the other person, the sort where you can expect explanations etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:06 PM
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not necessarily, in practice it very often leads to it. most people don't set out to give themselves an eating disorder
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:54 PM
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whatever i say if you can find a way to twist it you're quite likely to people whose motives i don't trusf
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:53 PM
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autism speaks
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:52 PM
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because for normies subtext isn't a secret language
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:52 PM
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i don't have issues being honest. not sharing information with people whose motives you don't trust is entirely honest
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:49 PM
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disciplined eater doesn't make you hot unfortunately :((((( just gives you an eating disorder, malnutrition and a ton of health issues
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:47 PM
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why would i give you anything for your proving women bad project? that's transparently your goal. whatever i say if you can find a way to twist it you're quite likely to
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:45 PM
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just because your motives are transparent to me doesn't imply in any way i have issues with honesty
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:40 PM
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someone rejects you, asking why is not dignified.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:37 PM
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i'm using hyperbolic language to underline what it looks like from the outside, as you seem to not be aware. to keep your dignity you really have to just take the no immediately. even a soft one
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:32 PM
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because i wrote it before reading all of it. "wanna go out" "if you pay me" -> that's the definitive no. but giving you the "k" and "thx for lunch" were pretty powerful hints already
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:29 PM
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because you begged and crawled and completely humiliated yourself in her messages, and she was humoring you because she thought she might make a sale.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:27 PM
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to prove that women bad, ofc
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:24 PM
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i hope you've since learned to take no for an answer. nothing good ever comes from fighting it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:22 PM
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sorry man. doesn't seem like you were on a date, you got caught within her solicitation strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:07 PM
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kinda low on patience that you keep replying with more shit after i told you this conversation was over several replies back tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:05 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:04 PM
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you're stating your dumbass opinion that rests on genius ideas detached from reality such as "adam driver is not hot" and creating artificial distinctions within the top .5%
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:03 PM
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your model is hyperfocused on creating artificial distinctions within the top .5%. you do you bro, but i just don't have anything to add to a conversation like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 03:54 PM
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yeah i'm just not gonna pay any mind to any model that pretends cillian murphy is in any meaningful way less hot than chris hemsworth. sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 03:51 PM
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not in merrca
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 03:24 PM
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just find someone who's willing to be submissive. don't ruin some poor girl's life who did not ask you to abuse her
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 03:23 PM
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this is an attitude directly from the 1830s. it was very fashionable then. as part of the same trend that started circumcision
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 03:20 PM
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does it crush your ego? :(
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 03:18 PM
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i am making it sound like a concrete dating strategy, it wasn't. more just my general attitude, and i did not actually do much dating after my thoughts had evolved to that stage. it was also not how i met my future husband. i was not looking for a husband or anything really. i learned a little bit about what there was to love about him first, and everything else came after.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 03:12 PM
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the standards are a bar, graded on fail/pass. i don't expect to know beforehand what lovable things i could find in a person i meet. so i don't look for specific things, i look for people who pass the bar and then see what there is to love about them. theoretically at least, it did not go that way in practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 03:02 PM
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looks hot to me no. standards are fully met. i just don't care about other people's opinions
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:57 PM
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first. not even a question i want to be happy and loved and don't care that much about looks. if he looks hot to me i'm not going to start doing mental calc over but how highly would other people rate this person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:53 PM
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i don't have to deal with it at all lol. i have a good man already, a sane adult not a voluntarily stunted online cult member
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:49 PM
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idk why you think they can't. the man i'm marrying had a fwb once and decided casual sex wasn't for him. overall having hooked up at some point seems from my pov to be a pretty common experience among settled down men, very possibly majority, but i wouldn't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:41 PM
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no most high profile feminist figures are careerist liberals, there is no movement just disparate narrow advocacy groups, and there is and will never be actual solidarity between women in the basis of gender because gender is nothing compared to class and nationality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:25 PM
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compared to the narrowest, most exclusive standards of normative beauty even the people held up as examples don't really meet them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:21 PM
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all of that applies to everybody not just men. it's just a fact of life that live will require vulnerability. we all have to figure out how to get out of our own way and not self-sabotage if we want to win despite it. it's specifically pill men that i'm criticizing here. not for being insecure, but for choosing the dumbest and most harmful reaction to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:19 PM
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adam driver is conventionally attractive his face just has character
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:35 PM
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yeah sorry that line's not gonna fly anymore you gave it away i know you love being triggered now
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:26 PM
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i CANNOT believe i am getting downvoted for this
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:15 PM
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is it the paying for makeup thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:08 PM
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difference is the speaker's attitude. "ugly" is just a bad thing to call someone, an insult. it necessarily entails a negative subjective judgment and by default undersigns a value system where appearance is grounds for contempt. you will never catch me saying or thinking that shit, not giving full dignity and respect to other human beings. "not conventionally attractive" is neutral and free of value judgments. acknowledges and leaves space for all possible experiences and opinions outside of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:59 AM
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the last thing this sub needs is another bearpill
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:47 AM
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+1 mistake
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:46 AM
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it's not intended as cruel, it's meant to point you to a truth you may be oblivious to. if you undersign the purposefully grotesque caricature of normal insecurity in my post, which is actively encouraged in online communities, that is an insanely counterproductive way to deal with insecurity. you will alienate people and prevent them from having a good relationship with you. even if someone sticks with you regardless, you will keep them at an arm's length and never be able to trust their love. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:38 AM
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you will never be loved and you're doing it to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:08 AM
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yes. it's a great representative example in fact, in that it's a non-issue and not misandry, just like all "institutional misandry".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 09:10 AM
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in most countries they don't give out fosters to single people and usually not couples who don't already have kids. fostering is INCREDIBLY HARD the children are without exception terribly traumatized and have special needs. it's absolute nightmare mode parenting and as a result the system ends up being horribly abusive to the children. the support and benefits for foster families are nowhere near sufficient for the kids' needs. still there are cases where religious freaks take on multiple foste…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 08:40 AM
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that's 100% larp, a weird extreme cishet sexual thing that manifests through dumb trivial shit like men taking the curb side of the sidewalk or the woman having to pretend to swoon over the man's gun collection if he has one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 08:21 AM
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have you ever heard of the concept of solidarity? feminists absolutely suck at creating it to the point that i can't associate myself with feminism at all in any way. but that's what they're trying to ineptly do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 08:11 AM
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neglect is included in those stats and indeed the most common type of abuse committed by mom. being a deadbeat is not considered a form of neglect here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 08:05 AM
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no i'm happy. Not All Men, just many. the reframing is to focus more on human potential rather than current performance. i have changed a lot in my life and believe that at least theoretically for example incels are capable of it too. just because most people fall on the part of the spectrum from irredeemably evil to toxic and abusive to kinda shitty, doesn't mean we can't do better both individually and collectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 08:01 PM
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to make me maximally upset, i should be about 60-80% down the list. anything higher than that and i'll go aww they like me anyway, anything lower and i'll go haha made them mad. leave me out and i'll go phew nobody knows me i don't post here too much after all. but 60-80% down and i'll take it as being considered mildly annoying
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:53 PM
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so, i have ascended from the female blackpill, not the standard one obviously. men are not capable of love; their souls are bottomless black holes that will take everything from you, they only want to abuse and hurt; they consume women like things; they are deeply cynical and view relationships as fundamentally adversarial and transactional etc. etc. also my whitepill ascension is not stoic acceptance but more like a reframing concurrent with a shift to a more optimistic outlook.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:41 PM
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thank you 😊 we're both very lucky to have found each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:30 PM
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when a conversation is actually engaging it doesn't need to be carried by either party. if there's any carrying it's not going well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:14 PM
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yes but you don't know what she thinks about it unless you ask with a magic spell so she won't lie to spare your feelings. women often have a very inflated sense of what's average in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:10 PM
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i'm happily engaged. i believe a significant fraction of people of both sexes are plainly and irredeemably evil, but that none were destined to be that way ar birth. this includes many men with very toxic beliefs about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:07 PM
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great point! our approach so far has been that he agrees to leave his comfort zone for practice. to train the concept and to allow him to give my ideas a proper try in case they do suit him once he gets over the weirdness of doing something that's feels ritualistic, silly or larpy. we're just going for trying many kinds of things, while trying to establish consistency and for him to develop a sense of reciprocity. we're hoping that over time he'll start getting the hang of it and have some of hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:03 PM
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no. i have ascended you can't observe human potential by looking at what most of them actually do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:37 PM
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it's pretty easy to come to the view that men are incapable of true love as a straight woman. obviously the content of the female blackpill is not the same as the standard one, it's much more informed by sexual predation etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:33 PM
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i agree with gladboys that it is an ascension from the blackpill, fully incorporates it but represents an optimistic view of humans and life. i'm not stoic or nihilistic though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:21 PM
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thank you 🙂 that quote was in reference to me being the housework boss instead of an equal 50-50 responsibility sharing when it comes to housework. i don't resent that, it's fine. but you're correct, i am not happy that i have to teach him this. it's challenging and frustrating. like i said, i would not be able to justify taking that task on if we weren't both autistic. i would walk away from a man who was much less like this if he had a less legitimate reason. i am mad that men and male sociali…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:02 PM
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the premise of this thread seems to assume women are prone to lying about some specific thing to men and this holds men back from success in love. based on what i've seen on this board, the greatest concern men have about dating is that they don't trust women's love. they have insecurities and fear greatly the women are in any way just accepting and loving them regardless, rather than impressed with their every typical characteristic that is commonly used to rank men into a competitive intra-mal…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 05:31 PM
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i feel like a goddamn puppy constantly pestering him with my physical affection, compliments, asking about his day, texts, initiating conversation, initiating sex etc. etc. i've asked him if i bother him, and he is dumbfounded. why would it bother him, he loves it? well, if it doesn't, and it's not that he's taking a little time and space for himself, then why does he not also come to me? if i hug him a thousand times and he hugs me back a thousand times there's warmth and love there for both of…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:55 PM
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ok!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:29 PM
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oh. i'm sorry man, i don't know what to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:20 PM
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i just want him to do his part, for it to be mutual and at least somewhat symmetrical and not something i carry because that's not going to work long term. the teaching really is the only effort i resent, it's very difficult and doesn't feel like it's really my place. i would not do it if we were not both autistic, i couldn't justify it to myself otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:18 PM
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well once upon a time they introduced internal markets to sears, and
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:14 PM
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that's between you and yourself. i am getting the vibe that you may not think about this very much, from how you have the notion that love is scarce and focus on romantic love rather than all of it, and implicitly discount the rest. but it's entirely possible that's just a misunderstanding from a low bandwith communication format, and anyway this is not about what i think about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:12 PM
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for example, i'm trying to bring love in to my dork ass fiancé's life and he's just too dumb for it. trying to teach him the habit of showing love to me spontaneously. reaching out to me about 50% of the time instead of waiting for me to come to him and being content with how often i do it. saying things to me even if he doesn't have anything important to say. doing small things for me just because. considering my needs and responding to them like i am constantly considering his. my female frien…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:04 PM
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it's all the same love, just with different extras on top
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:53 PM
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does your mom not love you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:52 PM
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demonstrably false
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:48 PM
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you just don't see what others do to have love in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:48 PM
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it's still real. it's achievable for many who never do achieve it. there's love everywhere and if you discount what you receive from your friends and family and animals and sometimes even just from strangers in brief encounters and don't think at all about returning some out into the world that's not going to help you pursue the one kind of love that people on here are preoccupied with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:46 PM
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deluded
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:40 PM
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it's sorta like wiping your ass properly. no, it's not attractive when you do it, it's the bare minimum and not doing it makes you gross
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:40 PM
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been listening to the same cultists you have
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:38 PM
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love is real motherfuckers
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:37 PM
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i agree it's overhyped and not that helpful to most people but you're a special case.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:37 PM
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okay. taking it back then, maybe there is a weirdo like that posting here and i haven't seen her yet. my bad!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:26 PM
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you need therapy, badly. there's so much black and white thinking and jumping to conclusions here. you can choose a partner a whole package, in fact people mostly do. in a whole package, wanting the same kind if relationship as the chooser (ie. committed in this case) is a really common and reasonable(!) criteria. there's nothing about considering this one critically important thing among others that makes the relationship more likely to fail. it's the fucking opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:24 PM
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didn't you hear? it's degrading to think a guy is husband material.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:18 PM
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RUTABAGA
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:09 PM
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i'm assuming you mean me, it just seems too much like a possible reading of the kind of things i post here all the time (especially that one deleted topic yesterday) if you jump into conclusions a little bit. if you're going to show me my own posts as proof that i think something i don't, obviously i'm not going to be convinced.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:05 PM
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surely you can find a bottle?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 02:37 PM
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i can easily find you 6 billion people who hate america and have nothing to do with bolshevism.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 02:33 PM
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anti-intellectual education and media. words don't mean things, terms don't refer to well defined analytical concepts, thinking and analysis do not exist. it's all just vibes!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 02:23 PM
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you can rest easy, there is no bolshevism in any aspect of society
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 02:13 PM
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because someone can't possibly be like me, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 02:09 PM
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6'6
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 01:55 PM
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could it maybe be just that we don't hate ourselves and love our partners so we say nice and healthy things about our lives? for example i call myself cute because that's my experience, people tend to like me rather than not like me because of the way i look. i have no doubt that many on here would use other words, "mid" probably being one of the kinder ones. my fiancé is a schrödinger's beta cuck and a 6'6 chad. both at the same time until it is revealed which way my views need to be invalidate…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 01:54 PM
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correct me if i'm wrong but that would imply it's a lie a lie in service of a nefarious goal
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 01:35 PM
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if one of the short or average height guys i was with or pursued before him had married me we wouldn't be in this situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 01:29 PM
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i can't help but suspect you're reading a lot into some people's posts that just isn't there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 01:25 PM
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reactive desire is a copout
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 01:08 PM
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yet you believe the same bs the more correct trees do. that the way female desire often does work is some sinister plot
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 12:30 PM
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cause of climate change and droughts in the mediterranean!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 12:07 PM
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yeah, we're all lying about the responsive desire, it's a conspiracy to convince y'all that there's anything at all you could do to get women to want you so we can manipulate you into doing what we want. otherwise you would never even consider it because growing as people, building a happy strong and functional relationship and actually learning to turn your partner on and get her off are all so beneath you. it's degrading in fact to be forced to do all that instead of being able to spit on wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 12:02 PM
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it's not a copout it's just a way in which women's desire works a lot of the time. i don't think any woman really has any resistance to admitting men fucking suck at doing any of the things that would create more female desire and channel more of the pre-existing female desire towards them instead of fantasies of being sold to one direction as a sex slave.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 11:51 AM
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oh shit really? i was on that for a long time in hindsight it could definitely have been making it worse 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 11:46 AM
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i still have hypersexuality as a trait, but do not meet the threshold of a disorder since it does not cause me harm because i have changed my behavior. has nothing to do with exceeding the typical man's sex drive, the scoring is the same for both sexes. fwiw i don't think women desire men anywhere near as much as vice versa. that has very little to do with women's physical levels of horniness though, most nymphos are primarily compulsive masturbators.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 11:40 AM
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it has to be pathological to cross that threshold
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 11:31 AM
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you mean my personal bona fides? hypersexuality is not uncommon in adhd. i met the threshold of clinical significance for a time, when it was impacting my overall wellbeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 11:27 AM
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can you conceive of the notion that women have varying levels of desire, both between different individuals and situationally? that when they speak to their own experience, they're probably right about it? what are you even doing getting upset about the kinds of problems people have years into a relationship? is that ever going to concern you, aren't you talking yourself out of even wanting that preemptively? several years into a marriage it's not a small part of men either who don't have the sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 11:04 AM
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i am a literal nymphomaniac and i would never suck someone's cock in a filthy reeking place without some kind of VERY heavy pressure and feel entirely confident that this is close to universal among women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:44 AM
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means she has a spontaneous desire for more drugs yo
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:39 AM
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i will be departing soon. it's been mainly insomnia in the last week, and falling back on old timewasting habits.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 12:43 AM
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nope. i do want him, and i tell and show him all the time. the visceral nonsense is just artificial inflation of standards to find excuses to be insecure about more shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 12:38 AM
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i wish they wouldn't take it that way. if they were able to set aside their desire to see women punished, they could take it as a hopeful example of people being able to come back from things not going that well at first. the n-count is mainly from desperation and trying far too hard. there's a few drunken hookups there that come close to a form of self harm. i enjoyed myself with like 3 of my previous partners, and 2 of those were boyfriends not hookups. just a bad time overall, but something i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 12:28 AM
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he knows, i wouldn't know half of that shit if it hadn't come up in conversations with him. he is the one who says i wouldn't have been able to stand him at 22 (he says that whenever i tell him i wish we would have met sooner so we could have been happy all along), and i take his word for it. i know his n-count because we've talked our sexual histories over in some detail. he knows how i fell in love with him. doesn't think it's at all unflattering that it was because of his intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 12:12 AM
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yeah i get it. like i said, he should leave me for his dignity. pump and dump, he played me, a former cock carousel rider who was trying to shamelessly have his children and take care of him in his old age. that's the best move to restore his man card. it's terrible to be happy when someone wiser in your position would be plagued by insecurities. he needs to find someone good enough for him, or if he can't then at least die alone and bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 12:02 AM
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yes constant talking about it makes it hella weird, creepy and unsettling — it would be hard to interpret that as anything else than absolute psycho mind games from her. i would not be with someone like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 11:38 PM
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the woman who does what you suggest, for doing what you suggest
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 11:30 PM
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But if it surface daily that relationship is over do you not understand how deranged behavior this would be?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 11:27 PM
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I keep telling high n count women to bring up their sordid past daily and see how their hubby handles it. make a problem, so there is a problem. this proves me right
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 11:23 PM
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my future husband is cucked. i wouldn't have swiped right for his profile on tinder. i would not have been into him when we were in our early 20s. i grew attracted to him only when i got to know him and developed feelings for him. my n-count is 3 times his! it's so over for this man. i've basically ruined his life by falling in love with him. and this bluepilled beta cuck idiot doesn't know what's good for him, so he lets it happen. neither of us has ever been this happy or loved someone else th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 11:20 PM
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A woman's past is like 90% of dealbreakers for men for redpillers, you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 10:57 PM
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i'm just getting sick of this sub actually. someone literally said that husband material is the most degrading thing you can call a man. nobody here wants to be happy or help themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 10:55 PM
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yes it's definitely that you have a point and i am failing to grasp it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 10:45 PM
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Men are hyper focused on material things because they’re oftentimes a prerequisite for their relationships in the first place. yes, that's what i said, men rely on being able to hold material things over others' heads to get relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 10:42 PM
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he did nothing for the son but neglect him. taught him nothing, the upbringing consisted of throwing the poor kid directly in the deep end of the pool and congratulating himself when he didn't drown. that's extremely self centered behavior and has no overlap with love.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 10:40 PM
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but what if a woman only becomes attracted to a guy over time, as feelings develop? what if it's not "visceral" enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 10:33 PM
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surprisingly many men are blind to what actually holds relationships together and in denial about it. they're just not taught, and are used to relying on material things to hold over people's head, and for the other people to accommodate them and compensate for them. they mock the concept of emotional labor in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 10:30 PM
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it isn't, but god help us if we say so, then we're basically cucking our beta providers, calling a man "husband material" is the most degrading thing you can say after all
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 10:19 PM
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"hey women, do you constantly view the world in terms of men's sexual insecurities?" yessssssss so well put! that's about half of what goes on on this sub. and they will always call you a liar if you don't validate their insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 10:17 PM
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cuck as an insult has come to mean something very different online though. it doesn't have that much to do with actually being cheated on, it just represents the real insult of not being sufficiently dominant toward one's spouse or within the male hierarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:51 PM
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they really think being loved by one of us is a terrible humiliation and punishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:41 PM
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i agree. they want to be shit and be rewarded for it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 06:07 PM
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yes you individually. but overall the effect will be that more men will be able to date and get into relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 06:00 PM
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well, you could remove the slutshaming double standard and the threat to women's healthcare, make contraception accessible cheap and high quality and make better options for men, take sexual violence and violence against women seriously, make housework and childcare equal, and teach men to be considerate partners and to fuck better
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 05:39 PM
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to highlight what the red thread here is
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 05:34 PM
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i'd be perfectly happy to see a woman of any minority group in the woods and would not feel threatened
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 05:22 PM
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i'm not american and have never been there, I'm going to be cautious of everyone relative to the much safer men in my country
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:44 PM
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i would be much more cautious if i lived in a less safe country like the us or india. in the us i doubt i would feel more threat from minorities than white men, it's far more about the situation and the man's behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:31 PM
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well you can look it up, even asexuality as used to refer to regular asexuality is considered a spectrum, not an either or thing. but i was using it in quotations all along and trying to say i meant motivation to pursue sex/relationships, because that's what i have been talking about all along. people differ in their level of desire and motivation to pursue sex. i was talking about that, trying to give it some label for shorthand. this is not controversial at all, but perhaps it complicates the …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 03:54 PM
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is that ben shapiro's sister?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 03:27 PM
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that is not how it works lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 03:13 PM
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there definitely are online bubbles, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 03:09 PM
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before you were saying that MUCH MORE WOMEN were asexual than men no, i was saying women were more "asexual" than men. that they want sex than men. not that fewer of them want sex than men. that could mean for instance that 100% of women want sex, but not so badly. do you understand this now i am getting really sick of repeating it? 82 and 84% as results in a survey are not meaningfully different rates yes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 03:06 PM
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women do in fact want to be married to men, at a higher rate than men want to be married to women. the rates are not meaningfully different the rate at which women want something is a different thing from how strongly they want it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 03:01 PM
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or you are living in a bubble
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:59 PM
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lol 82 and 84 percent is not a difference. and again, it is one type of relationship and the one type stereotypically women supposedly want more and men supposedly so don't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:59 PM
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i don't see it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:57 PM
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marriage is one type of relationship, what counts is the aggregate of all relationships and sex stated vs. revealed preferences are different and using surveys to address questions such as these is not straightforward
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:56 PM
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i have repeated multiple times that i don't believe women are asexual, just that they are less motivated than men to seek out sex — i believe this isn't even a controversial claim, it's a broadly held view and explained by the fact that heterosexual sex tends to be unsatisfying for women and comes with risks and downsides men do not face to anywhere near the same extent — and relationships. if you can't get it through to your head i don't think it's worthwhile to keep trying to repeat it in new …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:52 PM
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well, if every man on earth in the aggregate was less interested in a relationship than every woman in aggregate, men overall would be more attractive than women overall. which is exactly what I'm trying to say here except with the sexes flipped
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:43 PM
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if he's the last man on earth, yes. you can only be attractive to someone
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:39 PM
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if the woods scenario had been about entering a closure with a bear vs passing by a man in the woods, obviously women would have chosen differently. but it was not about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:37 PM
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i am not arguing it makes the women more attractive. i'm saying women are less attracted to men, because they are more indifferent about relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:34 PM
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We ride in elevators with Stanger women. We see women get Uber rides from men they don't know did you miss the multiple rounds of online discourse where women have complained about how they don't feel comfortable doing these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:33 PM
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like I told you, yes i do not believe women are asexual, that is not a good label, they are just more "asexual" than men in that they want relationships and sex with men less. most women DO in fact want relationships and it's not even like a close margin. yes, but how much do they want it? they would prefer it, but is it a priority for them? how motivated are they to pursue it? how far are they willing to compromise to get it? or are they more meh about it than men Now if you want to argue that …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:28 PM
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anyone who has a problem with the bear discourse is an incel, not really, just that all incels are among those who are mad and represent the rest pretty well too instead of addressing the points men are making we just shame them into silence it has been addressed, here let me summarize it for you: sorry, you get no input into how women evaluate their risk around men, you can yell all you want but it will not make women feel more safe and will not shame and intimidate women into ignoring their sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:23 PM
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they went quite a bit further than that and it was pretty dumb!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:12 PM
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i thought so too until conservative grifters saw sydney sweeney's rack on snl and declared wokeness over lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:08 PM
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but women overall can be and i would argue in fact clearly are more "asexual" in this way than men. asexual is not a good way to label it imo, i think motivation to pursue sex/relationships is more accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:06 PM
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that's not the message i'm sure women would choose passing by the man over jumping off a cliff or getting shot but ok thanks for the clarification!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:04 PM
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if henry cavill was all men ever and the ace-aro lady was all women ever, yeah it would then mean henry cavill is not attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:58 PM
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so you would say it is NOT about comparing men to wild animals?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:54 PM
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it's not about makeup, rather you're making the implicit unfounded assumptions that male and female attractiveness distributions are "naturally" similarly shaped, that women are equally physically attracted to men as men are to with women, and that they are equally motivated to be with men as men are to be with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:53 PM
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metoo :((((
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:48 PM
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why are blondes so overrated? i used to think it was mostly boomers but with the cringe sydney sweeney moment it seems to still be a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:46 PM
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if that's so that's good. i'm just still trying to understand wtf happened
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:42 PM
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you do understand that that's an artificial constraint you're putting in your model? nothing in the real world that says women and men must be equally attracted to each other. it's a valid way to construct a model if that serves the purpose you're going for, but you are inserting a norm that does not exist in real life. kind of how grading in a curve just forces the results onto the curve rather than revealing a "naturally existing" curve
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:41 PM
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reviving bear discourse! q4m: if the question had been about being in the woods and having a choice between passing by an unknown man in a way that would make him notice you, or crossing a somewhat structurally sus bridge and women online chose the bridge, would you have been equally mad? why/not?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:33 PM
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that's not how i read it? it's pointing out that some men have gotten very angry and are lashing out online about a dumb viral tiktok trend suggesting that women do not consider men to be safe around, in a way that is further proof to the women because they seem pretty unstable and aggressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:25 PM
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it's not the virginity it's the shit incels are known for repeating ad nauseatum online
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:17 PM
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that's going to happen anyway at some point you know
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:14 PM
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reddit itself is a place with a specific culture it is known for elsewhere online
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:09 PM
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you can believe your shitty cult religion all you want but don't expect me to validate it when i has nothing to do with my experience. i can't relate to what you're saying at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:57 PM
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you can find support for anything online if you go looking for it. there's a lot of people out there and most are bullshitters, they'll say things just to participate in what they perceive as the vibe of the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:46 AM
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okay? idk what you expect me to say to that. i'm sorry on their behalf that they hurt you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:44 AM
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don't you think it's kinda sad how y'all are here turning your noses up at people who love each other and are happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:42 AM
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no don't care seems they themselves are very determined to do the conscriptions in the order that will minimize resistance and demands to negotiate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:27 AM
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definitely sounds like these aren't her actual friends, trying to break her relationship up
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:20 AM
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being considered husband material is the most degrading thing a man can hear
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:11 AM
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about my partner? what for?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:01 AM
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takes a while (like, surprisingly long) to accept that it won't get better and come to terms with that. then they may try to make it better, and if it doesn't work they probably do stop. edit. that person is clearly talking about a very abusive relationship too. those fuck with your mind
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 08:58 AM
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that's very fucked up and insane?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 08:55 AM
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weird i never thought about what exactly? i find it very weird to form judgments about people based on their ability to have casual sex, or to speculate about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 08:51 AM
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nothing. it's not my experience, maybe it's theirs, or they could just be talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 08:45 AM
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i had casual sex before him. there is no superior looks benchmark.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 08:35 AM
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that comes off as a deranged rant completely removed from reality op. i don't validate any part of it, including the stated and presumably also quite a few unstated premises. it's badly hurt men saying those things as far as i can tell. it's definitely not me. i perceive my partner with the greatest love and adoration. i find the suggestion that either of us within our minds didn't value our relationship, emotional connection, and our commitment to taking care of each other for the rest of our l…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 08:29 AM
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domestic violence goes up when a lot of families are experiencing economic hardship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:52 AM
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thanks, we'll do our best!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:37 AM
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depends on what attachment issues they are. i was able to go from anxious-avoidant to secure by being in relationships that would probably have never worked anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:18 AM
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he has a jung kook
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:15 AM
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you're giving off massive red flags dude
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:14 AM
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because looksmaxxing is the only pill
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:29 AM
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because no one cares and it's a very boring topic
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:27 AM
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i've seen him input it enough times, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:26 AM
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that's... not what a bangmaid is?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:33 AM
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i still cry if i think too hard about my cat's last years 😭😭
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:32 AM
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or getting rich?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:30 AM
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it's part of the lifestyle deal for her. she'll just plate his food someone else cooked and larp a little tradwifey here and there, if he's really into that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:25 AM
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sub's been previously saying you can get bangmaids with personality? hahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:24 AM
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she shouldn't clean herself, just manage the hired help
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:22 AM
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no you just have to know where to look (brazil)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:20 AM
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the average man and average woman not having that much in common thankfully, you can find and select the person who does have important commonalities with you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:14 AM
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i don't think these days you'll get a really hot woman to do that for nothing. think of the opportunity costs for her
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:10 AM
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recruitment is a whole ass subspecialty of hr with its own professionals
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:08 AM
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it's the 'tism
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 11:55 PM
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skill issue
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 11:50 PM
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no you just have to be rich
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 11:47 PM
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i don't really have a physical type tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 11:38 PM
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way earlier than that. people's lives change, they graduate, move, change jobs, find a partner, quit hobbies, get sick, and the worst of all is when they get kids at every change you tend to shed friends. at every change your friends go through there's a chance you'll fall out of touch. it becomes increasingly challenging to come up with activities. over time it gets less and less natural to pick up new friends as the changes happen. and kids change your entire life and outlook, many new parents…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 11:31 PM
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i would almost certainly have swiped left on him. he is not good at self marketing. hates doing it. i can't imagine what kind of profile he'd even be able to put together. plus he looks like kind of a dork at first glance 🥰 he is one of those men who cannot look at a camera without a constipated look on their face.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 10:56 PM
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it does not. there are unequal friendships that are still synergistic and acceptable to both parties. since people bring different things, "equality" is a pretty elusive concept anyway. only you can decide what is good enough for you and what kind of deal you accept.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 10:33 PM
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thank you! 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 10:29 PM
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i'm not jealous of the life-saving surgery he had that massively improved his qol, energy levels and general health :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 10:14 PM
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on social media. we were both active members in a closed group. we had similar ideas and thought in similar ways, so we kept interacting with each other's posts and having exchanges continuing from post to another over several months. naturally i concluded we were internet acquaintances. he seemed to specifically seek my posts out to reply to them. everything that i put up that wasn't a shitpost, he was there. once he missed a bunch for two weeks or so, but then he dug them up from the backlog a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 10:09 PM
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Beta orbiters are awesome for women to have, because they are otherwise known as friends
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 09:31 PM
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it's wishing he could be a bad person, purposefully hurt people, and suffer no consequences. i certainly don't know that feeling sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 09:28 PM
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it's a fuckin meme. no i did not mean it literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 09:19 PM
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lol. so you did
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 09:16 PM
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do you think you pulled some clever conversational gambit here by making yourself look incapable of very basic reasoning?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 09:14 PM
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it was not intended literally
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 09:12 PM
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can't actually be a good person treating people like that so no, that one is explicitly ruled out. unless he's such raping kids now so even that would be a step up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 09:10 PM
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are you feeling appropriately shamed?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 09:09 PM
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you still need situational awareness yeah but overall literally any guy would do so much better just acting and looking happier, friendlier, more excited etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 09:07 PM
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so sad that this is the limit of what someone would aspire to smh
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 09:03 PM
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nooooo keep doing it more men need to be like that! normalize 👏 men 👏 expressing 👏 positive 👏emotions👏 and👏 being 👏friendly
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 08:56 PM
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are you autistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 08:49 PM
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if the orbiting is happening in a friendship, then that is actually upheld by the orbitee. the guy is getting what he asks for, and is only lead on because he thinks he can get more but will not ask. that is some dumbass behaviour that does have an analogue in women, but it's also dumb and unforced when women do it and it is also on them to wise up
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 08:36 PM
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well, those are certainly some rules to live by. if you follow them yourself, i respect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 08:30 PM
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he is aware & disinterested 😇 and anyway there's nothing in it for him, i'm the second best thing that's ever happened to him and alienating me would make his life much worse
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 08:29 PM
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what kind of strangers? annoying dumbass strangers? bad faith stranger sealions? overgrown babies having a meltdown? or people who show through their behavior that good faith and decency will not be wasted on them?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 08:23 PM
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orbiting is an entirely unforced error. literally nothing is encouraging, nobody is asking them to do it. if it takes them a long time to wise up, that is entirely on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 08:20 PM
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yes. do you see the difference between talking it over with trusted people in private and posting about it on social media? like we don't make fun of people for shitting in the toilet, but we do for shitting themselves in public?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 08:13 PM
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but they're probably not asking you to do it to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 08:09 PM
1

...so do you see this all the time or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 08:05 PM
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I find it hard to believe when no woman online says or acknowledges why it is so but instead makes fun of it 60-70% of the better things people do all the time are almost completely absent on social media. social media as a format does not support intellect, is actively hostile to it in fact. if you accept that what you are able to observe on here, necessarily a limited platform, represents the full spectrum of human experience, you will stunt yourself fucking tragically. people are their real s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 08:04 PM
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a woman who knows you and cares about you isn't going to make fun of even the kind of things she would if she saw someone having a meltdown on social media. i agree it's a damn shame young men don't have elders to go to with this stuff. fathers or uncles or older brothers who would have it figured out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:44 PM
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well i'm not on tiktok or insta, no. forgive me but this is a little difficult to believe, i don't even know how that would work. some female influencer invites male followership to pour their heart out in comments, replies to all 7000 with a stock phrase and the hug heart emoji?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:40 PM
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please tell us how do we process these feelings? By talking right? yes. to trusted people who are actually able to help you work through stuff. not have a meltdown in public
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:35 PM
1

Women ask men to open up and talk about what they feel. they most def do not ask randos on social media to do this
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:33 PM
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daughters. i'll have way more influence over how they'll turn out, and will be able to have a much more happy and tight-knit family that way
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:30 PM
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i'm not being deep. just saying no, it was never given that i would end up okay. it's still not tbh, but at least i'll get this one thing. also i do not look down on anyone for not having what i have. only stupid people, but that's fine because no one thinks they're stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:15 PM
1

there were two of me. the other one killed herself
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:07 PM
1

dance classes are actually really good advice
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:05 PM
2

yes my fiancé is really nice and sweet 🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:04 PM
1

yeah happiness seems really cringe from the outside i remember :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:02 PM
2

so happy to be marrying a bluepilled man <3<3<3
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 06:58 PM
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these days i hear it quoted most by bitter guys casting themselves as nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 05:24 PM
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that's gc women, not feminists. i don't think they even call themselves feminists these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 05:13 PM
1

the gel thing has been vaporware for over 15 years now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 05:12 PM
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women are the people who would benefit most from artificial wombs. they're not coming, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 05:09 PM
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if you ask me, probably just that women aren't delusional, shitty and dumb enough to attribute their failures and trials to being "too nice". that is a transparent justification for not being nice, and such a complete misunderstanding of niceness that it raises questions about whether the person is even theoretically capable of being nice at all. at work it's pretty straightforward, it's not women complaining about being too nice, but other people belittling them and taking advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 04:54 PM
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porn is not sex. it's a product
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 04:49 PM
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If the average man was an emotionally well, safe, financially stable, decent person that's a completely alien universe. i can't imagine even a single aspect of a world like that. i can't imagine who i would be in that world, or what problems would exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 04:48 PM
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not sex, good lord. porn. porn and sex are very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 04:39 PM
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i don't really care.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 04:38 PM
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nice girls finish last type sentiments apply to work, not relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 04:37 PM
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i don't like porn. all porn i've seen makes me feel the same way as the gore and the csam, some more some less. what's going on is hostile, evil, and degrading, and the fact that the victim consents does not make it better.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 04:31 PM
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it's ridiculous to ask men, they are the last people to give you an honest appraisal of porn
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 04:25 PM
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the vast majority of porn also depicts violence. the brain damage is not being able to see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 04:24 PM
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that's no different from porn in any way
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 04:08 PM
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i watched gore as a teen. been exposed to cp multiple times. i have no business turning my nose up at people who have looked at things online. ongoing porn use is a totally reasonable thing to have discussions and even standards and boundaries about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 03:04 PM
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definitely fatter than those ^
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 02:44 PM
1

lol yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 02:42 PM
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no one should ever be forced to listen to divorced bitter guys anywhere for any reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 12:48 PM
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i like fat guys
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 12:48 PM
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it's revealing that you think your gender should be the group unit for solidarity. in that you're pretty clueless about solidarity
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 12:47 PM
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yes. a lot of problems that feel very real and insurmountable online turn out to not be an actual thing if you just ignore them. a problem that will legitimately never cause any trouble at all if you don't pay attention to it is not an actual problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 12:36 PM
1

that seems like a pretty obvious candidate for what's keeping you detached then.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 09:24 AM
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you do have to be willing to get hurt or you'll hold yourself back. last time was really bad, it's not usually like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 09:20 AM
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i have never been alone in the wilderness. have not been in the wilderness since childhood at all. back then went with my dad. don't intend to go back necessarily ever. i don't think tourists have any business going to places like that, and don't enjoy tourism myself anyway. might hike trails that are well worn and ruined for nature anyway, to accompany someone who likes tourism. as for woods where no one would hear me scream, there's multiple such bushes within the range of where i regularly mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 09:17 AM
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well what if the numbness is the last lingering symptom?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 09:01 AM
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4 years to fully get over a bad breakup and getting cheated on is entirely possible. if it takes that long it takes that long. if you're chronically tired, stressed or depressed that also affects your ability to feel the normal scale of your emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 08:57 AM
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there's two things here that shouldn't be confused. some people call the initial high of falling in love limerence. that does wear out, and it isn't sustainable to try to pursue that long term, it won't last. but real love is really clear too once you learn to recognize it, even though it's more variable and definitely has its meh moments, doubts and contradictions. real love is also a skill and a habit that you have to practice. i feel like if you put your hours in it will become clear if it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 08:45 AM
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oh, well np i wouldn't call what's going on with you settling. more like you haven't figured out real love yet, or haven't found the right person or aren't ready yourself. but i would say yes something is up, that is not what it feels like when you want to marry someone and become their family
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 08:08 AM
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question if there is more out there normal if you're young or if you settled down too early, but definitely means you don't actually love them >sometimes you don’t feel that attracted to them inevitable in a long relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 08:04 AM
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did you really love them and want to be with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 08:01 AM
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and that's really the only question there. nothing about the partner or the relationship, no one and no relationship is perfect. all that counts is are you 100% in or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:59 AM
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settling is fake to me tbh. some people will be in a relationship when they don't really want to; i feel like that's their personal pathology, and we shouldn't legitimize the mental distortions they use to justify it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:57 AM
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guy's presenting style is pretty annoying, but he puts forward a pretty definitive case here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MsEmOQeBcRA
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:27 AM
1

the only thing i really hate about this figurine is. why does she have dicks for boobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 12:24 AM
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do you think the venus figurines were made by women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 12:14 AM
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every day you're posting about how my fiancé shouldn't be with me (or at least should treat me much worse on purpose)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 12:00 AM
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lives in a rather boggy gloomy place
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:58 PM
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i'm curious why that doesn't make you question the main world view in evidence on this sub, but just lean even further into it and conclude things are even darker
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:49 PM
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how tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:38 PM
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no man it's nonsense. stop doing this to yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:35 PM
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so true
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:26 PM
1

how about on hungover wednesdays
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:14 PM
1

is it fat sydney sweeney with autism?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:06 PM
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i was thinking more about the health risks and how they make you deranged while you're on them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:04 PM
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i'm happy to clarify but i will need you to ask questions that make sense and directly address what you want to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:03 PM
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be clear and direct about where you're going, do not waste my time with bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:51 PM
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weight loss pills 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:45 PM
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i do. don't see what needs explaining?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:42 PM
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sounds like it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:40 PM
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i know the type of guy you mean, i have a friend like that, but that's definitely a small fraction of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:37 PM
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women overall tend to be better rule followers, accept responsibility for low status communal tasks where men will tend to shirk and avoid, and they are more agreeable than men. for managers of organizations where humans act as just parts in a greater whole and must be able to put their ego aside, those are some of the most valuable characteristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:34 PM
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that's nice, good for them! although one would hope it's because men have improved rather than because women have regressed
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:28 PM
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nobody cares if a teenager boy doesn't shower for 2 days yes, yes they do actually
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:18 PM
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you can find almost every possible kind of woman out there, but overall no it's not about ocd. a major part of men will live in filth if left to their own devices. the socialization for appreciating cleanliness is the same as the socialization for doing the work of maintaining it and men are deficient in both.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:17 PM
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you're free to try to get a woman to agree to that. it'll be a while still until our plan to #KillAllMen will be ready to put into practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:13 PM
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i like it a lot actually!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:07 PM
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i have considered it extensively and it's crystal clear how the form and function of the beliefs exploits psychological human weaknesses just like cults always do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:06 PM
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it's a sacrifice we're willing to make. for the greater good
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:02 PM
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women can do both, and will when the incentives are in place and obstacles absent.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:01 PM
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it would work just fine. the technology of creating sperm from stem cells would take over in far less time than the safe genetic combinations from harvesting sperm from even a small fraction of currently living men would be exhausted.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 09:55 PM
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definitely way more about being the kind of guy to take T to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 09:52 PM
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Also you can't reuse the same batch without having inbreeding issues. mathematically designed rotation for the entire female population of the planet? you absolutely can.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 09:50 PM
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i call it being embarrassed for getting caught having terribly misunderstood something and trying to recover by making some sort of edgy "joke"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 09:48 PM
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astronaut meme
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 09:44 PM
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masculinity is defined by anxiety about masculinity
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 09:44 PM
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frozen sperm works just as well. no living men required
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 09:38 PM
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really? i've never seen one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 09:35 PM
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dick isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 09:34 PM
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that's not cute aggression jesus christ
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 09:32 PM
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that's not these studies, unless you're reading them in a very motivated way. also some rapists aren't going to admit to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 09:29 PM
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can't post images on phone but i messaged you a screencap from one of the news stories. the video is awesome, it's an uncle talking very matter of factly about the events, and how he doesn't at all resent the bears, it was just bad luck that he happened to scare the bear family and he's happy to have them live in his area. last year one hunter got it pretty bad, but the bear was within its rights. he was also shot by his pals who were trying to kill the bear attacking him lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 09:28 PM
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yes from a bear. no single source, it's in the news every time it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 09:17 PM
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nah there are a couple attacks a year where i live. it's overwhelmingly a bite, some scratches, bruises etc. no one's died for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 09:12 PM
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now tell me why i should fear a fuckin bear
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 09:09 PM
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not helping your case, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 09:07 PM
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lol you're a diagnosed psychopath do you not see how you're absolutely not helping the case that women are stupid and wrong and paranoid here? "dumb women, thinking i might kill and rape them, well i may just show them they're exactly right" no offense, and i don't at all think y'all aren't also full human beings, but have some self awareness here god
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 09:02 PM
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the range comes from a bunch of studies where different samples of men were asked if they've ever raped. those are the percentages that admitted to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 08:57 PM
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yes, it's two fairly small difficult to quantify risks against each other. i would choose the bear simply because i am certain that any human attack would be a million times more traumatizing for me. i'm not afraid of animals and know they don't have ill will. i'd much rather get bit than assaulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 08:56 PM
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in the folklore of my culture, the standard procedure for dealing with bears who spent too much time too close to the house was as follows. the lady of the house goes looking for the bear. when she finds it, at a respectable distance, with a clear line of sight to the bear, she pulls down her bloomers, turns around, lifts her skirts and moons the bear. the bear is thus exposed to a fearsome force, and understands it is in a place not safe for bears. it will then leave. this is 100% real.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 08:52 PM
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it's also hard to make sense of. pedophilia and societal attitudes toward that are also very closely related here. i'm sure many different mechanisms contribute, but i've observed the scapegoating with a few other societal ills we are trying to avoid acknowledging, so i'm convinced that's definitely a dynamic that exists in the human individual and group psyche.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 08:43 PM
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i hope you find it helpful 💙
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 08:38 PM
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that was me. can you explain why it's dumb to consider that when deciding whether to be alone in a secluded location with a man i don't know?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 08:27 PM
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it's scapegoating. we pretend rape is the most evil thing of all, in order to pretend that normal guys can't be capable of it and that women who make accusations must be lying because it's just so reprehensible you couldn't believe such a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 08:20 PM
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inaccurate. i'm the natural match of the kind of idiot nerds who get taken in by that bs. i spent far too long going through the trash for just one salvageable guy before giving up and moving to greener but more competitive pastures.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 08:05 PM
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/r/incelexit
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 07:57 PM
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i've taken the leopill. i'm convinced he is gay and has a string of mutually beneficial arrangements with young women where they act as his beard and get a career boost from the publicity and connections. when they decide they want to actually date or settle down, he moves on to the next one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 07:56 PM
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it's actually straight men who want to fuck henry cavill for some reason. i see them post about how hot he is all the time. i don't doubt there are some women who are into him, but i don't see nearly so many posting about it. it's weird, been wondering what it is about straight men and henry cavill for years now
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 07:52 PM
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by the father, the son, and the holy boner, amen
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 07:31 PM
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we have some prominent agitators on social media, but obviously most of the organization is keeping a low profile and entering critical positions. many require background checks, security clearances, or just maintaining a professional persona.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 04:54 PM
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we just haven't been organized and determined enough. but that is coming to an end.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 04:42 PM
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yes. again, what's a fair corrective factor? fair in your opinion. set any corrective factor for turning "sightings" into "encounters" that you believe to be fair. how many sightings would you believe were close enough and not through a window? unlike you, i'm not trying to win or score a point here, i am explaining my reasoning and frankly it should already be clear to you from the orders of magnitude of the numbers involved that it just isn't plainly deluded or bad faith to choose the bear. al…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 04:40 PM
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yes. again, what's a fair corrective factor? fair in your opinion. how many sightings would you believe were close enough and not through a window? also remember the context of these sightings is a bear problem where bears leave their normal habitat, enter areas where humans live, and act in an unprecedentedly aggressive manner toward people. it's possibly the reason why reports of sightings were being collected in the first place. sightings in the bears' normal habitat — sightings far less like…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 04:27 PM
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it's possible theoretically, but not in practice yet. the stored sperm will carry us over the time it takes to finish developing that technology.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 04:05 PM
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You're adding a lot of amendments to the man sightings only what's described in the actual scenario. assuming that all the bear sightings in the stay you quoted must have been situations where the bear could have attacked and didn't what's a fair corrective factor, in your opinion? remember that we are also assuming 1. every sighting was reported - totally unreasonable and skews the result bear haters' favor 2. correcting for the sightings period being different than the attack period by assumin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:57 PM
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the men sure bro. definitely some man somewhere, just not you, right? it's strange to me that y'all are so deep in denial that the whole state of gender relations is 100% a result of male refusal to do equal childcare and other menial labor. througout history it has been, and still is. robots but then again since you think robots can ever perform carework, it's maybe actually not that strange after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:48 PM
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y'all have serious issues with literacy. in context of "women need men" "no we could literally eradicate you and continue society just fine" the point is not "we could literally eradicate you", it's "we could continue society just fine". and we could.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:40 PM
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who's gonna raise the kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:34 PM
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as i have gone over many times, the comparison is between P(bear attack | bear encounter) and P(man attack | woman encounters random man alone in a secluded location). so i dunno, if you have any numbers on how often women find themselves hidden away all alone with nobody around for miles and miles with a strange man and plentiful terrain for hiding a corpse, and how often something bad then happens to them, i definitely would find that very useful. i just don't think we can assume it's less tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:30 PM
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as i have gone over many times, the comparison is between P(bear attack | bear encounter) and P(man attack | woman encounters random man alone in a secluded location). so i dunno, if you have any numbers on how often women find themselves hidden away all alone with nobody around for miles and miles with a strange man and plentiful terrain for hiding a corpse, and how often something bad happens to them, i definitely would find that very useful. i just don't think we can assume it's less than 0.0…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:26 PM
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addressing resistance is of course one of the main focuses of our planning. there are unsolved problems still, mainly due to the sheer scale of the logistics of a swift, coordinated global operation that should in the ideal scenario be completed before significant organized resistance can solidify. i unfortunately can't share the action plan here, but it's the fruit of years of work by hundreds of extraordinarily competent people. we're all very proud and excited to be part of a project of such …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:16 PM
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it's all laid out on reddit, twitter and facebook, in articles, blogposts, youtube videos in more detail that you could ever want to know. asking a person to spoonfeed it to you is a clear indication that you have no actual desire to understand the reasons why people believe so. you want someone to argue the case for you, declaring your intent to obfuscate and completely shamelessly play dumb at every turn. so, no :)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 02:53 PM
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blue pillers include all people who've never heard any of the pill shit. even those misogynists who just aren't familiar with the particular meme complex of the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 02:42 PM
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yes yes, it's the normal people out in the world who are truly brainwashed; i and my cultist brethren alone have reached true consciousness
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 02:24 PM
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that's not really accurate. we could literally eradicate you and continue society just fine. collect enough sperm samples before disposal to ensure genetic variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 02:15 PM
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oh, and if i do give flippant responses of "no it's just you" to somebody it's because they're being pathetic and annoying. it's to be understood as a sub rule compliant stand-in for telling them to kys themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 02:11 PM
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i don't assert that, there are many frustrations with dating i would agree with regardless of the gender of who expresses them. this sub has men who have been marinating in the pill bullshit, they're unlikely to be able to form coherent critiques of dating due to having had their minds poisoned by cult propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 02:08 PM
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you know, i've been trying to make the exact opposite point of that again and again. bears don't actually eat people. not the way they eat worms or the way dishwashers eat tide pods. it's an exception when they do, like when a human eats a tide pod. japan is in the middle of an unprecedented wave of bear attacks due to habitat disruption and food scarcity for the bears. last year they had 160 attacks, 2 deaths over a ~6 month period. over the same period plus 3 preceding months there were 15 000…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 01:49 PM
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humans eat tide pods
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 01:33 PM
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bears eat worms
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 01:26 PM
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the vast majority of people need a constant stream of little moments of closeness, warmth and intimacy in their relationships to stay happy and in love. women are more aware of this need and the responsibility of creating and initiating them tends to fall more on them in a relationship. a lot of people and especially men are in total denial about this need and will happily let their relationship rot until both parties hate each other due to huge backlog of unmet needs and disappointment. women, …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 01:23 PM
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well she can also get mad for the valid reason that a you, not understanding the game but not just saying so, end up using the game to say something nasty to her, when for her it was just a harmless game and she doesn't get why you couldn't read that she was trying to invite you to be cute and silly with her, as you should do in a happy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 01:03 PM
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on average women age worse because normative beauty standards are more ageist for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:59 PM
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no. it's a silly social game normal people like to play. as an autist, you need to communicate to other people clearly that you do not enjoy them because you don't understand how to play. if they then get mad and start making you feel bad about being different and won't let you have your boundary, that's abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:53 PM
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just to meme on the decades worth of cope about women aging like milk because tom cruise and george clooney exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:10 PM
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yeah i know, it's actually very 102 level. but for laymen even that is advanced.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:36 AM
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i took a mathematical stats module in uni, but i'll admit that's not my field of specialization. so if i'm somehow mistaken, please do lay out your case, i have the background to follow it even if it gets a little technical.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:33 AM
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you're a dumbass who doesn't understand those women's advanced statistical reasoning
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:10 AM
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look, if you don't wanna accept this is an american cultural blindspot that the rest of the world broadly agrees on, i sure as hell can't make you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:07 AM
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well that's often an outcome of societal breakdown. americans don't interfere abroad out of moral principles, it's in service of your ruling class's naked self interest, and it's result is increased destabilization in almost every instance. the few exceptions have obvious explanations.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:05 AM
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this specific generally stated principle? nearly all of them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:02 AM
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we literally don't. i have 3 "ones who got away" 5'8 or under.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:01 AM
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i am using anarchy here in the sense of breakdown of social order, not as the desired end goal of the ideology of anarchism.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 08:25 AM
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the american mind cannot comprehend a simply stated general principle
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 08:23 AM
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i didn't say america is anarchist, i said americans are individualist and stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 08:13 AM
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there's going to be losers in literally any way you organize society. everybody loses most of all if there is no organized society but just anarchy. americans have individualist brain damage, no one else on the planet except them and people influenced by their socially and intellectually corrosive cultural exports has any trouble with this concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 07:29 AM
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yeah accurate y'all aren't allowed to question it and yes you're a misogynist who should be in a camp 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 07:22 AM
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ok
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:10 AM
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pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:08 AM
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there had better be 0 guys saying no
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:07 AM
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i did but i kept seeing their posts anyway. it's a dumb feature
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:05 AM
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i hate how we can supposedly force you to harrass us, but there's no way to force you to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:59 PM
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we're dishonest liars if we say anything other than validate your darkest masochistic self pity fantasies. height is such a boring feature in a man ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:57 PM
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congratulations!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:53 PM
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that's nice!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:46 PM
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sure, as a current pop culture phenomenon it doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:45 PM
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jazz isn't dead it's just a weird niche of academic musicians these days. but things are happening, new stuff is being tried. imo things don't have to have mass appeal or a huge volume of activity to be alive, just something new being created and evolution happening. then at some point it'll be called something else when it's changes enough, maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:32 PM
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rare hinkle w
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:27 PM
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what kind of music does he make?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:26 PM
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seems plausible enough
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:25 PM
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not metal. indie rock i guess
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 10:59 PM
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bands like the war on drugs still release new music
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 10:56 PM
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not the same, but it also wouldn't go up uncontrollably. people would have less sex, and also different kinds of sex, and use whatever imperfect methods they do have available to them to attempt to control their fertility. for instance, pulling out has a deserved reputation as an unreliable method, but if you do it properly it's easily 90+% effective. same goes for fertility awareness, it's not a good method because you want certainty in bc, but when followed properly it's still going to dramati…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 10:52 PM
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it's really not but i don't think i'm going to convince you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 10:22 PM
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tag yourself i'm the misandrist. also a little bit the edgelord
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 10:17 PM
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no, seems we're on the same page. i just wasn't sure if you meant i could never understand being lonely because i can only be lonely by choice and that's different somehow. i don't agree with that. being with someone who doesn't treat you well, or just in an unhappy relationship, can be an incredibly lonely experience. it's less lonely to leave that situation. i'm willing to accept that being alone with no choice is a third, different way to feel alone that i can't fully understand, but not that…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 10:15 PM
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makes sense. it's an oddly underrated thing to save your time for people who are actually into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:59 PM
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