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thanks i was inspired
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:07 AM
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so what they're really upset about isn't "dual mating strategy", which this again does not apply to, but that hot guys exist, that people think they're hot, and they themselves aren't one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:06 AM
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because they're morons. it's only a dual mating strategy if you have the hot guy's kids and have the underwhelmoid raise them with you thinking they his
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:00 AM
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yes, but only if they also love and fuck each other. then it's the dream
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:01 AM
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you should do something better with your life than post here. this place is completely beneath anyone seeking an education
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:00 AM
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fwbs absolutely settle are you kidding me
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:37 AM
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that's ahistorical nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:28 AM
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twitter. she's one of those sv e acc postrat types or whatever they call themselves these says, if that world is not on your radar then it's mostly twitter where she sometimes goes mainstream viral.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:12 PM
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birthday gangbang sankey diagram ho
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:58 PM
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omg did she what's her username
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:57 PM
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c'mon that's selling her short. aella is no less than insufferable substack retard
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:51 PM
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what is the ppd verdict on aella? she seems like a great match for this sub topic/interest wise and engagement style wise, but is also annoying and unlikeable af (not unrelated to previous) and ofc a gigaslut. curious to know where it lands
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:46 PM
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i am using "fuckboys" in the sense of including hapless spineless contemptible male biomass that will not sort themselves out, will not think honestly about what they actually want, will not learn to make decisions, will deal with difficult emotions and conversations by avoiding them, will not acknowledge their duty to contain their loser shit to keep it from harming those near them especially those they claim to care about, but will keep claiming they want what you do but saying "some day" "eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:36 PM
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yes. with a car, like in that one tiktok
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:24 PM
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nobody is special yet we all are. 😇 if there's a charming, smooth, fun enough guy that he can make a little casual flirtation a positive experience, I'm all for it and would recommend it to any woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:14 PM
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sex is a way of spending time together.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:07 PM
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normal people don't really think about people in terms of superior and inferior. if the man is trying to spend time with you, all the objective signs are in fact pointing to him wanting that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:05 PM
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maybe that's not what happened to them? you can just have fun with people without expectations provided they aren't poorly hiding what they actually think of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:54 PM
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and you can waste much more of someone's time, years even, by being in a relationship with them but not committing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:27 PM
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nah plenty are with fuckboys
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:12 PM
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yes beards prove men become the more attractive the more of their face they hide. muslims have it almost right, just picked the wrong sex to cover up
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:06 PM
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fuckboys are a menace though. parasites on normal people just trying to live their lives. i quit dating forever just because i did not want to deal with them and they're entirely impossible to avoid otherwise. eternal singlehood is vastly preferable to having to sort through people intentionally wasting your time
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:02 PM
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ah. so purely a low social literacy issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:51 PM
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not because i have anything against hookups though, except it's wise to avoid them if you're about to catch feelings. it's kinda transparent when a "HVM" is trying to "slum it" with you, the vibes are infernally rancid, there's really no temptation at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:33 PM
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easily, and have.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:28 PM
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"you'll be a good husband so I won't date you" sorry what's the context here? what would actually be the typical direct quote in a situation like this i do not recognize what this is supposed to be about
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:19 PM
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depends on how much i make. money is just a brutal fact of life, and the thing that you can't look past is is the partnership viable as a whole. my partner and i both have health issues, and i've been relying on him to support us for a while now but we both know that could flip in the future. it's fucked but where i live there's strong incentives against combining finances at the bottom end of the income distribution. at a certain point of brokeness, you simply can't afford to get serious unless…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:03 PM
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i actually chose it some years ago, before the term became more broadly used, and i meant an almost completely different thing by it. should probably change it to something else now
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:18 PM
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i don't know, i don't rule it out. women get more leeway in a lot of ways and men in others, i couldn't say how it balances out. situations where a group of people are more welcoming to a female stranger joining than a male one are much more common than vice versa, but this is a pretty narrow set of circumstances and i wouldn't give it a huge amount of weight. women have the advantage of being automatically nonthreatening, but men often don't want to be seen as nonthreatening even when there's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:39 PM
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how would you "see" that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:47 PM
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🙄 i'm not saying this stuff is new, but it is becoming more mainstream now which is just a fact. cry about it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 06:30 PM
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if you read carefully this time you should find that i was discussing looks only. korean men are known for being rancid yes, but that's off topic. i was simply referencing the well known fact that the korean look is globally very influential both wrt grooming, skincare, introducing things like everyday makeup for men etc. and the evolution of beauty standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 05:11 PM
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is that your read on her?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 05:02 PM
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yeah they do. many do it so hard they don't report as bi in the census and have no connection to the lgbtq community. the incentives are overwhelming. takes a happy accident, being kind of a nerd, or being an actual gay person holding on to their last shreds of a connection to straightness for someone to even id as bi.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 04:42 PM
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kind of a crank theory, but it appeals to me what can i say. yours is intuitive, assumes less and is more respectful of one's fellow man, definitely a contender still. maybe science will shed light on this in the future
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 04:20 PM
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cognitive and general health are survival buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 04:17 PM
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you see i'm not so convinced that's true. i believe, although this is just my vibes based analysis, that even if you pass the reading section of the lsat with a top 5% score, once you've posted in bad faith for a couple years you actually can't reach that score again before rehabilitating your thought patterns through practice. that there's not a clear distinction between thinking and arguing, and that even the bad faith people are actually putting forward a decent representation of their actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 04:15 PM
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🙄 maslows hierarchy of needs never applies it's bunk. unscientific, hasn't represented up to date understanding on human needs basically since it came out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 04:07 PM
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there was 0 serious effort to protect ukraine. any serious effort would have meant boots on the ground and the failure to do this is 100% a matter of lack of commitment. i reiterate: if america wants to put boots on ground in greenland, it already can. they can do anything they want there. so this cannot be the reason why they suddenly want greenland.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 04:05 PM
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feels like you're talking specifically about gendered beauty standards rather than gender norms in general? the future might surprise you. beauty standards are increasingly applying to men and converging with women's beauty standards. everyone is steadily becoming more gay. physically feminine women and masculine men aren't going to disappear, but men will increasingly become korean. if bisexuals stop prioritizing hetero relationships it's basically over, androgynous people will no longer face s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 04:00 PM
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dating is not a bottleneck societally, only individually. on the scale of society, inefficient dating market is not a significant cause for low marriage rates. marriage rates are low because given the (mostly employment related/economic) constraints people face, they are on aggregate choosing this marriage rate. if marriage were more attractive, the friction from dating would not matter, people would get married. individually, many people are stuck dealing with dating seemingly forever, so it ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:36 PM
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you could stop them, exactly as well as you can now, except you'd also have help from NATO. don't think the bases and defenses are sufficient? you can literally build as much more as you want. station as many troops as you want. the reason there aren't more is that it's expensive and hasn't actually been considered important until now. (edit. not that i'm convinced it's considered important now. very much in the remains to be seen column what kind of military buildup there would actually be afte…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:07 PM
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yes, the chosen methodology for official statistics on homelessness is very bad at capturing the scale of the problem. iirc they count only rough sleepers during one specific calendar month, rather than asking people for example how many months they've spent homeless out of the last 24, or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:04 PM
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couch surfers and people living out of their cars are homeless, though. rough sleeping homeless are only the absolute most vulnerable, but the same risks and threats apply to other kinds of homeless people. rough sleeping homeless develop severe mental illness within weeks of being out in the open simply because of how brutal that life is. in their position it is rational to self medicate. given the amount of precarious people, it's not warranted to assume too much which came first. there is an …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:01 PM
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america already has total military access to greenland. they also have allies to share cost of operations, and denmark pays the bill for keeping lights on in general. if trump were to successfully take greenland, access would not increase at all. allies would not be there. costs would increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:51 PM
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feminism hasn't been successful, all progress in women's rights and position were necessary parts of development of society into modernity. feminism takes credit but it was not a political change, feminism never had the kind of power to force anything. the change was much deeper than that, dictated by the structure of society changing as technology reshaped the economy. men as a class did not magnanimously grant these changes, they were not consulted and had to be dragged along kicking and screa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:47 PM
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the man in question might change. on here it's largely men complaining about being single. then, reasonably, women respond with a glaringly obvious huge factor that's standing in the way of men being attractive to women, good relationship partners, or able to learn from women. that's all — it's a suggestion to improve, not a demand. sometimes when men are being actively shitty about/toward women, it's said as more of an expression of outrage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:40 PM
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people do have social and psychological needs actually, affection and relationships are needs but sex isn't. children literally don't develop fully if isolated. adults' cognitive functioning and mental and physical health degrades.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:10 PM
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frustration isn't always bad, it builds character, is an inherent part of learning and growth, and contributes to the greatest satisfactions in life. avoiding frustration is not a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:06 PM
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yeah they'd come up with some cope pretty quickly, but the scrambling and cognitive dissonance would be so entertaining as long as it lasted
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:48 PM
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but it would be funny when the midwits are faced with simple clear evidence (that they take seriously) that i'm the superior reasoner and disagreeing with me is a sign of their own inadequacy. i want to see that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:39 PM
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literally what do people imagine greenland is worth? what's the point? the mineral/oil resources are a meme, they're currently not being exploited because it's uneconomical.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:36 PM
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a reading test would be better and more impactful but yeah some sm platform definitely should do this
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:34 PM
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actually, having gone through some shit, the upside of having your priorities shook straight is HUGE and i never knew how to get out of the way of my own happiness before.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:17 PM
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I’m wondering more on the internal framing should have made that more clear. How do rejected men retain masculinity internally while being rejected do you understand, are you aware that the op is all your own internal framing? you kind of directly say within it that you are committed to these beliefs, hostile to reexaminations and reject any possibility of reframing. so this makes me curious, what do you think an internal reframing could even look like here?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:45 PM
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it's true we do in fact know better
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:41 PM
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but if you had gone to cooking school it would not help your argument at all? it would settle it immediately in favor of you cooking
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:35 PM
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why are feminists fighting you over who gets to cook. why do they want to cook for you so bad what's going on
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:23 PM
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that's not what it means lmao. money is the most easy to grasp social construct and nobody would say it's such an immaterial concern it can simply be handwaved away. again in your own framework, doesn't sound healthy to try to convince yourself of an invented reality when you're reacting on a hormonal level to having observed the actual reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 04:04 AM
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exactly! what do you mean x is better than y, which one do you want??
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:16 AM
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masculinity absolutely is socially constructed. which is good, because if we take your premise as given, there really isn't anything for rejected men to do but commit seppuku.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:14 AM
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you are absolutely correct. women are vastly better adjusted socially. better & more friendships, better family relations, nicer interactions with acquaintances etc. only on average ofc, but since you're here i assume you and your peers are at a disadvantage compared to most women. still mostly sucks for women too, but definitely worse for men on aggregate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:08 AM
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yeah, perfect sense, there's a lot in common with those two situations!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:42 AM
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honestly not thinking much, super confused and insecure, just following models and scripts from limbic storage on autopilot. from my parents, extended family, tv, books, probably. repeating things i saw that my brain thought fit the situation. social instincts are fairly opaque to introspection, somehow the brain just comes up with weird shit to pull without a lot of conscious thought involved. most shady insecure behavior follows when you start with the axiom that you can never express directly…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:30 AM
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as for the poor bpd girlies, they were always fucked in the olden times just as they are now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:17 AM
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i agree the development you describe is happening but i don't know that it's backfiring on people significantly. i tried this type of bullshit a couple times when young because i had very underdeveloped social/emotional skills. my targets were well adjusted men so it didn't work. i self reflected, learned and grew. very glad they didn't reward or humor me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:16 AM
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it def can
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 05:53 PM
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"authoritarianism" is nothing but liberal cope over other kinds of societies being able to accomplish things, have leadership, and act in a coordinated manner for the cost of no greater level of ambient violence. it's a contentless nonsense concept, because it's supposed to contrast with liberal democracy, but its characteristic traits also apply to liberal democracies.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 01:53 PM
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i'm personally set for life but i would like to see pill ideology die. the more people that deprogram themselves from the cult the better. the rest should be redacted.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 09:29 AM
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love is real but it's like the bell curve wojak meme. a lot of midwits pill themselves out of being capable of it and the threshold to coming out the other side is very high.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 09:26 AM
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the characteristics that attract abusers are fairly stable and correlated and don't necessarily make someone a bad person or partner. it's still a good red flag but this should also be considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:53 AM
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in a word, intelligence. counts way more than looks for me, and i'm really picky about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 06:21 PM
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nah. there's no chad super enough that if he requests my time based on common courtesy and i grant it and then discover he does not need my help at all i would not be pissed off.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 06:14 PM
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just be himself (only works if you're my fiancé)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:22 PM
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the more cold approaches happen the more they will be perceived as harrassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:20 PM
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the complaints are non-actionable, ie. they do not include actionable programs or steps. the issues being obliquely (as they are seen through an obfuscting, irrelevant gendered lens and being described falsely) referenced aren't inherently non-actionable. but i have yet to come across a single example of someone supposedly advocating for them with actionable policy suggestions or any kind of program that is not taking women's rights away. in fact, it's very rare for anyone to even ever bring the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 11:54 AM
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usually they are transparently a figleaf for misogynistic rhetoric or a reactionary agenda usually but when they are not more or less openly suggesting that women's rights were a mistake and need to be undone, there's no ideas there whatsoever when they are not more or less openly suggesting that women's rights were a mistake when they are not more or less openly suggesting that women's rights were a mistake
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:22 AM
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it's a lot more than just grooming, and they don't do what's necessary to enforce the legal protections that exist. i don't know how you could even make such a statement when pedophile networks like epsteins's and dutroux's operated for decades with impunity and were public knowledge long before something happened to finally force the cops to care.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 08:02 AM
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it is systemic and it is oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 11:21 PM
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used to shame men that's really your takeaway from that discourse?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:03 PM
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it's true, it is not, and that's why it's remained fully unaddressed in any other way except women individually leaving their relationships ot trying to renegotiate them from an improved position. "why don't people just" is never going to happen anywhere regarding anything. there need to be concrete steps and policy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:33 PM
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sexual abuse and a generally sexually hostile and predatory environment is still ubiquitous and generally how 8-11yo girls first learn to relate to their sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:26 PM
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the actual problem is that none of men's complaints, even when they are kind of reasonable (women being picky on tinder isn't exactly a civil rights issue), are actionable in any way. usually they are transparently a figleaf for misogynistic rhetoric or a reactionary agenda. but when they are not more or less openly suggesting that women's rights were a mistake and need to be undone, there's no ideas there whatsoever. usually not even a coherent understanding of the problem itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:23 PM
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they don't compensate for sexual attraction, they create it. It's such a common argument: I am a nice, upstanding man who cares about her. Who really loves her. Who truly gives a damn. I don't have any ill intentions, my love and regard is as earnest as can be. Why then did she not see the light and give this honest, good man who adores her, a chance? when you genuinely care about someone and respect them and want what's best for them, you accept when they don't want you. you don't try to argue …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:10 PM
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gender would not exist at all. it would matter as much as eye color or left handedness.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:11 PM
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i'd want one for a pet in that case, but not like an aquarium, i'd want to keep it as a puppy instead and take it for walks
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:03 PM
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if it were shown that we've actually been living underwater all along, how would your feelings about fish change?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:01 PM
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i've done it like 4 times
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:36 PM
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😮!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:32 PM
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it's not satire, just bad trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:24 PM
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it's true, i do. but i don't get downvoted when i do post here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:21 PM
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it does not happen to everyone. it's rare for me and when it does happen it's pretty clear why.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 03:49 PM
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kinda sounds like you're nitpicking advice that's necessarily going to be a generalization for being a generalization. the truth is that it's just not a good position to put yourself in to try to date 25yos at 35. that in no way implies someone can't succeed. if you have your shit together, you can find a certain type of early to mid 20s woman at 35. there's not that many of them, and there's not much that is attractive about them, including personality or even capacity for loyalty. some grow up…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:56 AM
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it does not mean that, just means there aren't as many decent men as there decent women who want decent men. this is compatible with a majority of men being decent. but yes, most men are shit actually. saying that is not a comment on the entire gender. you should learn to control your emotions, it's pathetic, irrational and incredibly cringe to react like you're being personally attacked when someone criticizes any men for anything but identifies them as men. especially when you would probably j…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:34 AM
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saying there aren't enough decent men is not blaming any decent men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:42 AM
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the law has nothing to do with consent and something being legal does not make it acceptable or not rape. what an evil person thinks of themselves makes no difference to the fact that they are evil. history is full of colonizers, slaveowners, nazis, environmental criminals, robber barons, crusaders, inquisitors, and yes, pimps and rapists that believed strongly in the righteousness of what they did. believing you're justified does not make you innocent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:15 AM
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maybe ask a man who wants to get married? when my fiancé proposed to me these were the reasons he gave: * helps merge finances when interfacing with the law -> enables creating a single household setting us up optimally for babies and taking care of each other until one of us dies * legal status for both as each other's next of kin (more important than usual because we are citizens of different countries) * gets to have a wedding (loves family, loves parties, rarely has excuse that can bring eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 12:09 AM
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of course i have considered it. i lack many, although they are mainly in the category i would myself consider superficial. the rest are things i can't help and if i could i would have done it ages ago for reasons other than dating. but this has barely even come up over the course of my entire dating career. overwhelmingly it's been me deciding against a second date. i've only faced rejection a few times, and those rejections happened when i was operating under a really bad mindset and trying to …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 11:53 PM
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i found my fiancé through a shared interest. that's not quite the same thing as a hobby but close enough imo. even your own anecdote offers more support for hobbies being helpful than your claim. you met a cute girl and talked to her. if she hadn't been off the market there could in theory have been mutual interest. (although ofc she mentioned her bf to stop you from having any ideas because men do ruin hobby spaces by trying to use them for dating in a disruptive and crude manner.)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:28 PM
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yeah this place especially seems to exist for that in a sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:22 PM
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mostly the same as a good person but the standards relevant to relationship skills are higher. a good person to me is someone who cooperates, deals with people honestly and fairly, takes care of those who need it, builds and creates, is capable of loyalty, has morals and values and real commitments to them, respects and upholds rules that are there to enforce the common good, but not rules that are unjust, etc. etc. in a relationship a good person is also able to manage one's own emotions, commu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:19 PM
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tbh i'm getting the vibe most of all that he really really wants to say no to women on this, and that's why he is asking us to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:05 PM
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yeah, some women compete. i have nothing in common with them, including what kind of guy i think is worth pursuing. as per my earlier post, i don't think it's good for people to be competed over, or to compete for partners for that matter. both things actively set people up for failing at what should be the real goal, the relationship. i'm not superficial. i'm picky about exactly two things and the latter shouldn't even count, non-mathematical intelligence and being decent, by which i mean both …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 08:28 PM
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i would have thought that the causal mechanism is extremely obvious, but evidently not. ever heard of carework and how women do it but men avoid it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:57 PM
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when the problem is that there aren't enough decent men, there is literally nothing women can do to fix the situation. competing over the good men is not a solution, it just ends up ruining them too and creating a lot of sunk costs it will be more painful to cut.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:55 PM
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you're literally describing how your own choices and actions easily overcame whatever postpartum psychology she had because you were a motivated and active father and that she quickly came around to seeing how important and helpful you are. yes it is the father's choice, and one you exercised. why would you play the victim about it and pretend this is some huge social issue when you were so successful making your own choices exactly as you wanted?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:24 AM
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yes, that's a practical and smart attitude and how you should approach baby care.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:18 AM
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there's a ton of that research going back decades yes, but the results don't hold up. plenty of research out there whose results don't end up representative of the sum total of our best understanding of science. the problem with claims about breastmilk is that they try to take it too far. it's basically a superstition western people are really attached to culturally and institutionally. breastmilk does have some observable benefits especially immune and microbiome wise, but the breastmilk cult h…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 08:29 AM
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they complain about not getting commitment from these men do they really though? that's not what i'm hearing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:49 AM
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not that i believe i'd agree with you on men's character.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:38 AM
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that doesn't actually contradict what i said. both could be true at the same time
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:38 AM
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not accurate, the same effect shows up for men who have daughters but not sons. it's a matter of having women in your family. children's sex not affected by the father's wealth or health (or, if it is then sons rather than dsughters are correlated with wealth).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:31 AM
5

well that went well for you then, congrats
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:45 AM
13

y'all can figure your own shit out. marriage isn't for everybody and that's fine, you're the one who knows if it's your thing or not not us.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:44 AM
6

gonna take some extra work to find a smart responsible woman who agrees to be your baby mama.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:40 AM
5

women still do all this when cohabiting with men, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:36 AM
12

only problem with that statement is everything else you posted itt
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:34 AM
13

idk it sounds to me like they're not trying to get you to marry them as much as you'd like
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:28 AM
6

fathers can bottle feed just as well as mothers. a significant percentage of mothers can't exclusively breastfeed, and the ones that do often pump and use bottles so the dads can still participate. the evidence that breastmilk is better than formula doesn't really hold up, the effect appears to be culturally mediated.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:26 AM
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kinda seems like he doesn't have a woman in his life who wants to marry him but he is really invested in the scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:13 AM
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maybe there was some reasons provided with that pressure? i'd just go look at it again if i were you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:05 AM
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you clearly don't want to get married, so i don't think you should. just find a partner whose life goals are compatible, or stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:03 AM
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nah, sorry. tons and tons of shitty men out there, not enough decent ones for all who want them, and any woman who is upset because the leftover men categorically refuse to try to be good partners is 100% within her rights to complain and blame them for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:44 AM
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children are so dependent on their mothers as a primary caregiver during that time. Men get a lot of shit when it comes to parenting because of the fact that toddlers are innately more strongly bonded to their mothers. After toddlerhood, the father must play a much more active role in the evenings and weekends with them - it's not like he's not doing his part, but men get a lot of shit from their wives for being bad at parenting before when the baby still hasn't figured out this strange other pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:33 AM
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but it's gender roles if you expect men to not shit themselves where they sit. don't you see? it's unfair pressuring to say bad things about men who wallow in their own filth, or to not say anything to or about them. you have to praise them or you're a hypocrite! because women can have mortgages in their own name these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:57 PM
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????? you're acting as if I'M willfully misinterpreting something when i'm just talking about things that are literally in the post. the piss bottles were my own flourish, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:22 PM
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i literally cannot debate you. your thesis is unassailable. i fully agree that most women want to have a job and their own money, while not being impressed with men who drop out of society piss in bottles and play video games all day every day, and sometimes even saying so online.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:01 PM
2

is this parody? what an own goal
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 10:31 PM
2

i would not give advice to a guy like that without knowing what's wrong with him first. won't risk helping a psycho trick some poor woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:30 PM
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oh, that's unexpected. maybe you're right, who knows
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:15 PM
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well let's say it's found that too many men don't meet physical or mental fitness requirements and not enough of them have the right education to be able to serve in certain roles after a short course. requiring women to register and then using that data to choose the people best capable of the required service would solve the problem. if necessary it could be done in a way that softens any possible political fallout by minimizing the number of women. what about then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 08:42 PM
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that's not what i meant. didn't mean to imply that you think everything's going to be the same. covid and iphone and 5g and ai and subprime mortgage crisis for example are all compatible with end of history. just a certain unchanged political continuity. that whatever is making drafting women so unthinkable won't change.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 08:11 PM
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it's a 90s meme, and you're describing pretty much what i meant by it. assuming that future is just always going to be more of the same, and the kind of political and geopolitical changes that happened between 1900 and 2000 won't happen again.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 08:00 PM
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y'all still believe the "end of history" thing in 2024?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:40 PM
1

look, i'm not naive to this, you're talking about my reference class. that's why i chose a number under 100%. i would honestly call what you're referring to either clout or class depending on context, to distinguish from status. because it doesn't translate outside of the scene it's earned in and does nothing to help you elsewhere. money is real and translates everywhere and also strongly correlates with the relative status rankings of the different bubbles themselves. i'm going on about this mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:27 PM
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everyone is free to opt out whenever and lower theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 03:58 PM
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you do have a point, that's what marriage is for after all, but you're neglecting to consider the many valid things this gets weighed against in making the decision. for instance, a divorce is one if the worst things most people go through in their lives and it impacts them negatively for a long time. the effect of dissolving cohabitation isn't known due to lack of data, but i don't think it's safe to assume the protections of a marriage could either save a relationship or make the breakup easie…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 03:30 PM
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oh don't worry the government has access to all of that data already. all this does is add it to a bunch of ai training datasets and on a few of the startups poorly secured servers
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 03:18 PM
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it's great because it makes it sound like you're a bad person for refusing to entertain someone's misogynistic rant and smile and nod politely and swear to take heed and change your behavior and thank the idiot for opening your eyes with his "insight", which is just a less coherent regurgitation of either a f&f podcast episode or some race scientist blog post from 2008. the most banale garden variety bigotry no person on this planet hasn't heard a thousand times, and ignored because it's fucking…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 03:06 PM
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funniest thing i've heard in a while. great for the grift startup tho
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:52 PM
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"holding women accountable" has become the funniest buzzword in the manosphere. i've puzzled over what people think it means, and i'm as clueless as ever what's going on inside their heads. but from use it's evident that a lot of men think women are under some kind of obligation to listen to their "opinions" about them or other women, and rightly pushing back is "refusing accountability" or some other psychobabble for Wrong Thing Dumb And Mean People Do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:44 PM
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there's a genre of male behavior most purely represented by the uncle who keeps a titty calendar in open view and starts saying weird shit when you're about to turn 11 years old. every woman knows it and instinctively knows the warning signs, down to subtle changes in the tone of voice, expression or even the posture of a man who's about to start behaving that way. exact same way as an alcoholic's child can read drunks. this type of talk is a typical example. more effective on a pussy than the k…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:25 PM
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...ok but that is completely unrelated to the post you are replying to?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:18 PM
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i invite you to sit with that thought for a minute. like, purely logically. what does that assume implicitly? how do you arrive at a point where such a period is possible? how would you set a situation like that up? it implies that female sexual selection either became a major force in human evolution but hadn't been that before, or that it was a major force even before, but females shifted their preferences from something else to aggressive rapists. does that make any sense to you? because to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 08:29 AM
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sorry, can't take your word for it. you don't know any men like that, you're an online pillbrain dude and your entire reference system is from chad vs virgin memes and sjw cringe compilations. if a guy says he's "nice" and not at all misogynistic or pornbrained and does equal housework but them bitches just won't see what a supreme gentleman he is, you'll take his word at face value.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 08:13 AM
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so... view the matter entirely from within an bubble of people who don't make a lot of money? idk man, seems pretty insular to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 08:09 AM
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heterosexual relationships have historically been a kind of slavery and socially and psychologically a lot of how we understand them still carries over from that heritage. one very interesting aspect of slavery is that a master needs a slave, but a slave does not need a master and is actually better off without one. a master loses their humanity by dehumanizing another and therefore denying humanity itself, but a slave merely endures dehumanization from the outside. a slave can move on easily an…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 03:22 AM
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Attraction to money or status is not real attraction. yes Attraction is purely raw, instinctual, and mostly visual. no
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:54 AM
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the "gene pool" is an almost exclusively male concern, and even men wouldn't care about it if they were expecting to have actual relationships with their own children.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:40 AM
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could have had the potential to be better, but feel crushed so they're just too lazy or too emotional to actually be better? does it even make sense to talk about potential at that point?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:28 AM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:22 AM
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i'm saying literal rape according to a definition even you should recognize occurs very frequently in the sex trade. prostitution victims who have been raped in the line of work are a supermajority.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:52 AM
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well pimps and trafficking and all kinds of coercion are very common features of the sex trade and if you gave a shit, you wouldn't handwave those away as if there was some sex trade that wasn't inherently violent. but you don't, and you're only engaging to justify, because you're a john. plenty of jobs are also unacceptable. even ignoring the deeply personal and intimate nature of sex and the unique character of rape compared to other forms of exploitation, yes i would consider any other job th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:50 AM
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it is comparable to rape though. a lot of the time, rape literally occurs. observed levels of ptsd are similar between prostitutes and rape victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:30 AM
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it's coerced "consent". the threat of poverty and destitution is not meaningfully different from a threat of violence. an impersonal, diffuse, indirect threat by broader social structures may help the john feel better about it than if he were just directly threatening the prostitute (although i doubt it, as rapists specifically want to use power over their victims), but it doesn't alter the fact that he is taking advantage of a human being's vulnerable position in just the same way as a rapist d…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:28 AM
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because johns are no better than rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:31 PM
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you're right, it's not a red flag. it's a dealbreaker. a red flag is when your alerts are going up, but you're still open to it being a false alarm. being revealed as a john is not that. being revealed as a john is when you walk away immediately and don't wait to hear anything else. no context, no excuses, no justifications. no goodbyes. you just go.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:21 PM
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This isn't just some pet theory I cooked up, it's the analysis of all the major intelligence agencies across the globe that were predicting this move by Russia. then it's a pet theory of whoever told you that, because that is just not even close to being true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:56 PM
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Population decline in Russia isn't because of inherent violence,or political instability. i wasn't suggesting it was? but obviously population decline isn't going to cause a war? it could at most lead to war by first causing instability, but that has not been happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 08:46 PM
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i don't know how to tell you kindly that that's stupid, so i'm just going to be frank. They can't afford to keep the lights on essentially. no evidence of this whatsoever. the russian economy was not in crisis before the war. >The solution: get Europe to pay for it while they figure out how to stabilize the population numbers. They do that by controlling oil and gas in the region. you mean by selling europe gas, like they were doing before the war? >Recently discovered Shale oil, and natural gas…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 08:42 PM
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not sure what kind of explanation i should offer because that's extremely available information for people who seek it out so as someone who has thought about the topic enough to have formed an opinion of the underlying causes i doubt not having heard it is the issue here. anyway the reasons aren't at all in that realm, they have nothing to do with any supposed instability or inherent violentness of russian society. their political leadership felt it necessary for political reasons and had suffi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:34 PM
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that's what the ruling class already wants anyway. there aren't going be policies to prevent that from happening, and the instant it's possible based on some excuse they're gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:25 PM
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It's the underlying reason why Russia invaded Ukraine absolute nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:22 PM
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i wasn't talking about their employability either 🙄 women absolutely do not find male nurses undateable. unless you're trying to say only female doctors and engineers count, or that currently all men have better careers than nurse, i don't even know what your point is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 06:53 PM
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are you kidding me lol. male nurses are in high demand. less sure about teachers given that being a teacher is such a terrible deal these days it's basically self harm. but if it was a normal sustainable job then it would probably be pretty hot too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 01:41 PM
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your reasoning is based on a ridiculously caricaturistic false dichotomy. completely ignores that men can just be normal. you don't have to choose between being a bully or a tossing bag. that's not even just finding a balance between the right ratio of bully to doormat, it's a third, entirely different thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 01:13 PM
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it's very hierarchical yes, i don't think many people seriously deny this. in my view, men overall are happy to accept subordination and readily defend hierarchies where they aren't at the top. lots of elon and trump simps online, for instance. the trouble comes when they perceive their position threatened from below, as with women, or for white men, everybody else. but it's not then a problem of accepting subordination, but of being equal to women and poc, ie. the loss of privilege and superior…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 12:25 PM
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this model does not make sense to me. i don't feel like it describes anything very well and doesn't correspond to how i see the term used. and it does not seem to have explanatory power or even a plausible origin story. way i see it simping is very straightforwardly a synonym of fawning. it is weaponized online against people without much regard to accuracy, that's just how insults work. specifically it is often being used against men who aren't raging misogynists because misogynists perceive th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 12:00 PM
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oh. even dumber than i thought, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:20 AM
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you're looking for a paradox, obviously it doesn't exist. the men who take in the most vulnerable women do so for a reason. women with other options avoid that fate for a reason. obviously the man gets something out of it that not a lot of women are willing to give. what is happening there is NOT a sub woman's fantasy that a dom man is fulfilling. a woman who is in a strong position to do whatever she wants with her life with many good options at her reach is not going to want to become mommy gf…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:17 AM
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you know how mathematically if you take axioms that contradict each other you can prove literally any claim? similarly some thought experiments are so nonsensical that you can't really go anywhere with them. simping suddenly becoming attractive goes so deeply against everything about how humans work, that if you assume that happens, then anything can happen. logic doesn't exist anymore, laws of nature and rules all stop working. maybe magic is suddenly real, or the universe collapses into a blac…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:09 AM
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what are you talking about, status is at least 95% about money
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:01 AM
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patriarchy specifically means that women don't get to choose freely. so, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:56 AM
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you'll never know for sure until you test them in the real situation, but there are a ton of signs you can spot beforehand. the main thing is, do they believe that kind of behaviour is okay or not. people never really lose control, they just reach a point where they believe the situation justifies their actions. this is one of those things where the behavior largely persists because there's social acceptance for it, like corporal punishment of kids. often if you straight out ask people of they t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:43 AM
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obviously no one denies that rape and dv exist, a lovely sign of good faith of you to choose that as the bar to pass lol we don't want to create a system where false accusations are easy weapons to wield against people. that would definitely to them becoming common even though yes, i do not currently believe they are common. but as things stand, both go unaddressed causing harm on a massive scale, and something needs to be done about that. anyone who doesn't value a fertile operating environment…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:21 AM
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wrongly or rightly, people associate virginity and more broadly social isolation with online communities that actively indoctrinate people into being worse humans. i feel like it's probably a reasonable association to make, but i'm not sure what the age cutoff should be. unless we're talking about a case where a guy was on track to be normal until they got sucked in, that's obviously not the reason they are a virgin. but i feel like this might still be what the post was referring to. makes most …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:14 AM
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never going to happen because men don't have any legitimate issues. pill ideology and manosphere is nothing but a misogynistic cult that twists itself to most contorted belief structures to do a kind of gender equality darvo. men want to maintain and preserve patriarchal advantages, and y'all already share total solidarity in denying rape and dv accusations, justifying misogyny, and continuing to believe like a pampered french noble in the late 17th century that there's any kind of 'bias' or 'mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:45 AM
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being a pickme is universally repulsive behavior. that's why it doesn't work. only absolute bottom feeders will take pickmes. abusive men who aren't good at lovebombing or charisma.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:32 PM
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yes it is, but also it's not what i said.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:53 AM
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there are no studies that support op's ability to tell from watching people that women aren't really into their partners, nor any that confirm his powers of observation as an accurate, objective data collection method.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:33 PM
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well, maybe you should ask the women who approached you then.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:16 PM
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i don't wait to feel comfortable to do it. if i want to, i just do. i need to know him somewhat well, i need to like him and think he's relationship material, have a reason to think he might be interested, and it needs to be that kind of moment in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:09 PM
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Yet, I still see women get with guys that they're clearly not really into starting around age 30. i'm sorry, but this is nothing but your own imagination and judgments based on your belief system and filtered by confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:00 PM
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very good take!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 09:22 PM
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yeah it's innate and immutable, you definitely can't do anything about it or learn anything, your actions and choices do not contribute you're an innocent blameless hopeless victim destined to suffer forevermore.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 05:11 PM
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i don't think in the context dating percentages in the general population are a good proxy for probability of finding someone. i do get your point, but in the end, if you're looking for just one person then it's enough to find one that's right. op says he's interested in getting a phd, by that and some of the things on the list i'm guessing that he's part of a certain, uhh i guess social class? not sure what to call it. but that's important to him, and he identifies with it and wants to marry wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 09:17 PM
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i don't know why you find it so unbelievable? i know what i like wrt appearance but i don't really have a lot of dealbreakers either. definitely nothing i'd list beforehand as such, i'd have to see on a case by case basis. if i'm having to think about it, clearly i find the person attractive regardless. there's no point in deciding i'm categorically not going to be attracted to something.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 08:58 PM
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you should not compromise on those! and to be clear, that's not what i'm telling you to do. just, be really clear on what your actual priorities are. there are things on your list it would be tragic to miss out on the love of your life for. ditch those as "standards"; just keep them as things that make someone more interesting. for standards, find the ones that actually tell you in advance someone can't be the love of your life. and when you go out there, keep an open mind and focus mostly on fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 07:41 PM
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that you can't approach dating through checklists, imagining a person first then going out to find them, or by trying to control or negotiate the outcome in advance.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 07:26 PM
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yeah, the childfree thing is the major thing on here, and the city and similar or at least compatible attitude toward money are also very smart standards to have. and nothing else on there is problematic on its own, it's just the combination of all of it is simply not going to help you, it's the wrong attitude to approach dating with. edit. now, if you're using ambition or culture as hooks for recognising interesting people, rather than as requirements to exclude, that could be helpful and const…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 07:19 PM
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some of the things on your list aren't important enough to be standards (cultural interests? college educated? career plans but it's not about money or stability?), but they seem like they represent something that probably is. i would think the list over more from this angle, to get better clarity about what is important to me and to get better at recognising it in other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 07:06 PM
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those are not "standards" they're a wishlist. they're not "too high" but the sum of them is pointless and won't help you connect with people. you can't order a custom build from the sexual marketplace catalogue because that's not how human beings work. you just can't control the outcomes of your life to that extent. imagine you run into someone attractive who makes you feel really good and is clearly interested. imagine what she would have to lack for you to turn her down. that's what your stand…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 07:03 PM
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a relationship is a thing that two people create through their interactions every day. my standards overwhelmingly revolve around what kind of relationship i want to have. they're just signs in a guy that we could have that kind of relationship together. that he also wants the same thing, that he wants it with me, and that he has what it takes to succeed. what i bring is that i'm capable of being part of that kind of relationship. if i wasn't, there'd be no point in trying to trick someone who i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:21 PM
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i found my fiancé through a shared nerdy and male dominated interest. he was interesting to me because he was obviously autistic, obviously intelligent and educated (trained mind, not just some degree), knowledgeable on a bunch of interesting stuff, sufficiently aligned with my world view that we were able to have more in depth conversations without getting stuck trying to establish common ground, far too smart and socially literate to entertain any kind of bullshit, genuinely interested in my v…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 09:03 AM
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that is a very interesting question that gets at something critically important that seems to divide people very starkly into the oblivious and those "in the know". no hope of having a good discussion on it here, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:50 PM
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on here people will assume you're already octupling down on "no i'm a nice guy, it's because women are evil hypergamous soulless banshees who want to get bride stolen and wifebeaten by chad" because these discussions have been gone over 100 000 times.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:26 PM
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i don't think i've ever heard a woman complain men don't cold approach anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:40 PM
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i get your point but this guy did not put up any kind of resistance and could have just been told to get the fuck out and that would have been enough. i could have handled it myself once everyone was quiet and had their attention on us and he got scared. there just happened to be the wrong kind of guys present. the cops and ambulance ended up being called.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:20 PM
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oh nooooo what ever will i do if occasionally my heuristic leads me to correctly peg someone who learned the term "dark triad" from a trp/pua blog as a someone who gets their ideas from trp/pua blogs but they also identify as a victim!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:56 PM
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yeah you're so extremely clearly not offended that i'm forced to apologise and retract my use of that word. sorry, i don't know how i could have made such a mistake
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:50 PM
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all i'm saying is, this is one of those words that you can use to trace where people got their ideas from. take issue with that all you want because you feel offended it doesn't describe you and obviously you're the most important person online at any given time lol, i don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:34 PM
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ok, so you haven't learned anything outside of your original indoctrination since what, 16? 20? since santa claus or since jesus? you think that was all the bullshit you were taught? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:28 PM
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i guess you stay away from peer communities, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:27 PM
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the common use definitely includes both addressing weaknesses and becoming a more well rounded person with a broader perspective. i would argue both are more central to the concept than putting a ton of work into developing a single stat like in your examples, but that could just be me so i won't appeal to common usage there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:25 PM
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i'm aware it's being used in research, but it is not used by victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:18 PM
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nah, you believe things you're consistently told from childhood too. if you're not even aware of it, and think you're somehow immune, then that can only mean you've never done any deprogramming whatsoever and still believe 100% of the world view you were given growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:36 PM
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anything that can help calibrate the relative risk of a bear encounter in the woods vs the risk being alone in a secluded location with a strange man would be relevant here. but none of it exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:33 PM
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oh it was totally my fault, asking people for help when a man was harassing me. i should have known that's what would happen, after all i should know better than to expect men to not get violent and escalate needlessly. and it's not like i'm posting online pointing out that this is a risk to consider, no, or saying it was bad. i'm gloating! i obviously meant he deserved it, and i'm obviously lying when i say i didn't ask anyone to assault him. i knew exactly what i was doing and it made me feel …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:31 PM
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this is a gender war sub. so you have people on here who don't tend to look at the concept of the gender war itself very critically. which leads to a bubble where people take it a lot more seriously than is warranted, and vastly overrate its scope and significance. the antifeminist wave trying to undo women's and lgbt rights gains may yet become era-defining. if this happens, it will be like brexit: a 100% avoidable error caused purely by political dysfunction. until that happens, if it does, ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:21 PM
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i wish they could hear this when it's still a person warning them and not life coming at them. there's nothing like real material insecurity and permanent loss of health to open eyes and show people their true priorities with clarity for the first time. but it never works. and then, if they weren't doing the right things by chance all along, it's too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:04 PM
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i was there and read a lot of it and asked many of them clarification. 0 held up to scrutiny at all. the relevant statistics simply don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:43 PM
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But my idea of self improvement is improving from one's baseline, excluding extreme outliers (ex. self made billionaires do not count) and not fixing obvious flaws. True self improvement would be adding a significantly noticeable amount of muscle (ex. modest body fat and 180lbs to 210lbs and lean) or going from an income of 60k/year to 1 million per year, just to point out some objective metrics. so what you've done is, you've taken a commonly used term, completely redefined it to mean something…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:41 PM
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i also go running alone at night because that's not a very vulnerable activity and my neighbourhood is safe. but for most women that's about as far as they'll go, and many won't go after dark because of unpleasant experiences they've had.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:35 PM
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that's because women actively avoid being alone in a secluded location or otherwise vulnerable situation with strange men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:25 PM
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statistically they would be better off with the man. i have seen 0 serious attempts from antibear guys to make this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:24 PM
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why would the same pressure won't keep them married? it's much easier to convince people into wanting something they haven't tried yet, than into sticking with it when it sucks ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:20 PM
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culturally it's taught to us that it's women's job to "lock down" a good guy and it's still seen as the main success metric for women. whereas guys are taught that getting married is a loss of freedom and takes the joy out of a relationship. it's not a surprise when people take these lessons to heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:16 PM
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i've never had trouble getting men to help, but it does require making a scene and then the result is out of your hands. i once got a guy assaulted when it really wasn't helpful or necessary and i wasn't asking for anyone to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:09 PM
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The only way people ever learn about dark triad in the first place is by being abused by someone. nonsense. 100% of people using that specific term learned it from pua/trp content. victims use completely different language, and they also identify with and have empathy toward other victims instead of using psychobabble to justify blatant misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 12:59 PM
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i agree! picking the low hanging fruits is a net positive, but a true maximization strategy just makes you overly preoccupied with appearance, leading to insecurity and becoming more picky about partners and less capable of being a normal human.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 12:37 PM
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i think it's actually either your literacy or your bad faith 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:01 PM
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i'm fine thanks, i'm not complaining about my situation, just describing my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:46 PM
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basically whenever you pursue the narrow standard ideal, it's always this and not genuine internal motivation unless you're very conventionally attractive yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:04 PM
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i've done that. didn't help. it's not about being decent or not getting enough experience, a lot of guys just aren't socially skilled that way. not able to learn or open to it, no amount of experience is ever going to help them. there's no correlation with decency, except on dating apps because guys who know what they want are honest about it and good at presenting themselves pass through really quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:03 PM
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depends! if you just privately want to be attracted to your partner then it's not. but most people are completely out of touch with their natural attraction and what causes it and totally focused on pursuing the narrow ideal of conventionsl attractiveness because they actually care far more about what other people think about their partner than how they themselves feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 09:56 AM
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it was because the strategy of giving people chances despite bad profiles doesn't really work. the guys with uninteresting profiles are overwhelmingly uninteresting themselves. it's too much trying. the apps don't work, i quit using them years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 08:22 AM
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i mean that i tried not to hold it against them that they did not immediately manage to be very interesting or bring forward any appealing sides. if i thought based on the content of the profile we might be a decent match, i went out with them even if they seemed boring and not that sharp. sometimes more than once. as for what counts as something wrong, well i'll give you an example. there was one guy that just barely isn't among the nothing wrong guys. i feel a little bad because i rejected him…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:11 AM
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i like fat guys
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:25 AM
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It's almost like it's hard to get your personality across in 5 pictures and a paragraph. i agree. i have an ok eye for seeing whether people look passable despite bad pictures. and i spent a lot of time looking for guys with an understanding that they'd be less verbally intelligent and socially literate than i am. it's not a small sacrifice, it's very difficult to be impressed by someone's intelligence when you dominate them totally on the channels you interact and communicate through. but i tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:22 AM
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you've never done it, i'm the one who's had this problem for a long time. trust me, if you can think of it without being in the situation, i've tried it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:25 AM
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your friends are serious about relationships, ready to commit and know what they want. it's a nightmare trying to look for men like that on the apps. they suck at making themselves clockable and presenting themselves in an interesting and attractive way, or if they don't they're in and out and gone permanently in a nanosecond. most people on the apps at any given moment are those who stay there for a long time, ie. hopeless cases and fuckboys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 01:04 AM
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hands? sex trafficking! we need to invent like a circumcision but for hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:24 AM
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creepiness is a matter of perception, coming off as suspect or somehow off is literally what the word means. people have ways of figuring things out like for example social literacy, and actually guys looking for women do tend to stick out like a sore thumb. people also tend to be suspicious of guys who join groups by themselves and almost assume they're there to annoy women by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:28 PM
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you never know how the vibes are going to be in a new place, but i hope you find a really wholesome and friendly class and enjoy yourself 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:06 PM
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dude came here to ask what he can do to not be seen as creepy, i told him. you didn't like what i said and came to state that you disagree and don't want people to think the way i'm describing. fine, but imo you should just post your own advice to op and say he can go wherever because it's never creepy actually but right and good. maybe that'll encourage him to not care about how he'll be received by people where he ends up going. or maybe i'm wrong and everyone agrees with you and it's not at a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:03 PM
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cool opinion man 👍 i'm talking about the general perception though
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:50 PM
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yes if you do the hobby for real and don't just go through the motions to have an excuse to be there you will likely learn at about the intended pace of the classes. obviously you would typically start with beginner classes. some people will have to work harder to learn some stuff, but you can figure out for yourself what's a worthwhile balance of effort to fun and results for you to stick with it. the point about not sucking was just that if you're obviously not trying or dgaf it's probably goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:32 PM
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a very motivated reading of my post. guess it made you mad somehow 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 09:57 PM
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it 100% does not exist as conceptualized in the manosphere. it's flat earth tier broscience.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:18 PM
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my dad had an emotionally incestuous relationship with me before i grew up and was consistently able to keep my boundaries. can confirm there's not much of a draw there for a daughter, unlike the mom-son emotional incest cases where the dependence tends to be more mutual.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:10 PM
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uhh sure?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:45 PM
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? seems i read it just fine the first time
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:29 PM
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two autistic parents practically guarantee an autistic child that's not accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:23 PM
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that's obviously an exaggeration but kinda tracks for autistic guys? they do tend to be the best or bottom tier people, very few in betweens.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:54 PM
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it's 100% personality standards. your line is just the foot in the door, the next move if a woman is dumb enough to listen is relentless gaslighting about how what she thinks is good and bad personality is actually still just looks, money and status and what she should do is listen to misogynistic abusive men about who the upstanding men really are. the same kind who will in the next breath start spouting shit about how women don't know what they want and actually need to be treated like shit fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:52 PM
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have you considered you're too decent for this place (i think that about you) and coming here might be a mild form of self harm, kinda like smoking?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:42 PM
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sorry man, going places that aren't for meeting women to meet women is creepy behavior and you aren't going to escape that perception while doing it unless you're exceptionally charismatic. your only option is to actually get into a scene or hobby. as in develop a sincere interest in it. to the point where you'd keep at it even if it doesn't get you opportunities with women, and you yourself would be annoyed if others were there just for the women, wrecking the scene. the one gray case is dance …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:28 PM
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ooh boy this one depends a lot on what precisely happened. i can see it going both "nah babe it was the right thing to do, glad we got out of there safely" or a half-hearted "it's fine" and dumping him after couple days.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:43 PM
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the reason is that a bunch of disgraced beneficiaries of patriarchy are demanding the restoration of their former power over women and using every trick in the abuser manual to gaslight, darvo, false equivalency, naturalize, justify, obfuscate, nitpick, play dumb, derail, threaten, blackmail, and tantrum the clock back. these people's feelings do not matter. what they feel is entitlement to power over others; that's a feeling that categorically does not matter except as a malign force that in a …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:00 AM
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let me amend my earlier statement for clarity as you don't seem to have followed all that was being implied. here you are defending horrible behavior because you identify with the people doing it, because you agree with their actions and the beliefs that lead to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:29 AM
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well here you are defending horrible behavior because you identify with the people doing it, attacking me because i'm calling it out. you think i'm gonna care that you think i'm a bad person? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:05 AM
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precisely. and now you're working overtime to justify that choice, because you know you can't undo it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:55 AM
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the drop in his approval rating happened right after the afghanistan withdrawal, seems voters really didn't like admitting the us lost that war
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:26 PM
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i don't really follow american politics but i've heard multiple times that his senate career was outstandingly bad. that's a high bar
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:22 PM
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it's like you're posting from a universe where there's nothing between the baltic and the black sea. like you think all blonde people are dutch or swedes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:16 PM
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the kids really sell it. the accents are amazing too
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:05 PM
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it's very simple. bad people who won't fix themselves need to be walked away from. regardless of how high the cost is. very, very funny that you think you can NO U yourself out of having your darvo pointed out to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:48 PM
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what was the source of tension and conflict for the narrative arc? they just put the actual story entirely outside of the relationship like a war or something, and they just incidentally fucked in between actual plot scenes, entirely without any psychodrama because the relationship is so mature and healthy? or did the male lead get cancer, and then the drama was about the main character giving him sponge baths and changing his colostomy bag? why would a woman not like this, i can't understand. m…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:29 PM
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the main fact that explains why he made this post is that he knows he can't become a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:24 PM
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loneliness is a subjective experience, objectively women are much better off socially than men. not that that matters, it's not a competition, game of chicken or a war of attrition. never ceases to baffle me y'all will convince yourselves of things like it's women who have antisocial attitudes toward men and sex. truly the rapist abuser gender making darvo their entire world view.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:28 PM
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i do understand actually, there's a very clear picture forming in my head
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:22 PM
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women are actively choosing it, so it doesn't make sense to call it deserved or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:32 PM
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if those women lie to their husbands then yes, that would be accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:52 PM
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keep following that star
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:20 PM
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yes, women no longer like bullies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:13 PM
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not really! the lore afaik is just one new-ish? experimental research paper, exploratory rather than trying to settle facts. i assume, i have not read it or tracked it down. i suppose i should, if i'm going to give it a try, to see if they have details about how the disclosure was made in a lowkey, neutral, positive way. that's clearly going to have a huge impact on the outcome, i doubt handing out cards like the joker is a good idea. my first instinct is to not apologize or ask for "permission"…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:01 PM
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what do you think i'm arguing?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:34 PM
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lol if you educate your kids at all (tall order for an american i know — good luck with the way literacy is declining over there) they're going to figure feminism out. only way to prevent it is to ensure your kids turn out stupid and ignorant and indoctrinate them into one of your various cults.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:33 PM
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a lot of the time the line goes at whether you take no for an answer and at whether you get angry when you don't get what you want. obviously doesn't cover all possible situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:40 PM
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definitely one of those "you couldn't waterboard this out of me" comments
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:32 PM
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if you think anybody should tolerate men in their lives when they behave like this, then you're clearly never going to think anything is men's fault and they should be coddled and forgiven infinitely. no surprise, plenty enough of y'all are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:29 PM
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was more about the very revealing use of language.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:25 PM
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you are in denial about the basic underlying realities governing gender relations, and are doomed to be confused by everything until you acknowledge them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:17 PM
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no, i have other values besides that, some things are worth a little suffering. it minimizes overall suffering for shitty mean people to be isolated, so they don't cause suffering in others through their presence. obviously the suffering of awful people who bought it on themselves counts for a lot less than that of their innocent victims. not to mention awful people tend to be pretty miserable irrespective of how many chances they're given. note that i don't advocate for the lonely assholes to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:04 PM
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i don't want humanity to suffer. that's exactly why i want humanity to leave mean shitty people behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:52 PM
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the wojak in the meme is a ukrainian nazi. don't know, don't care about whoever made or posted it. the argument lol it's a meme dude
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:51 PM
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what? walking away from shitty, mean people is objectively the kindest possible thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:41 PM
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yeah too bad the men can't pull themselves together.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:19 PM
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again, this meme is not about "settling" and absolutely rules out any feelings of love or even extending basic humanity to your partner. the partner is being made the butt of an extremely cruel joke. depicted as the source of his shame and humiliation, being with her as an undignified fate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:08 PM
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it's about the lying. just like it's the lying that even makes cheating bad in the first place. nothing wrong with a mutually agreed upon open marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:04 PM
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so men just don't know the meaning of the word "required" and women do?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:02 PM
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ahh so you're just actually fully on board with and justifying being a horribly evil person. my bad, thought you were saying something more substantive than telling on yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:59 PM
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this isn't "settling", this is being with someone you have contempt for and utterly dehumanize. consenting adults etc, but you actually have to get the consent. INFORMED consent. being dishonest about how you actually feel about them and justifying it with "what they don't know can't hurt them, and if they don't feel loved they can always leave" is exactly as wrong as not asking for an open marriage but just going behind their back, and writing it off with "what they don't know can't hurt them, …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:52 PM
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good, i wouldn't want to hurt your feelings. just expressing a political opinion here, no need to make it personal
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:44 PM
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you're conflating two separate issues here. a romantic relationship can fulfill many basic needs it is often challenging to get met elsewhere. but just a relationship does next to nothing to make life meaningful. expecting it to is setting yourself up for failure and disappointment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:39 PM
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not good enough. you could justify cheating the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:27 PM
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one detail a lot of people seem to be overlooking is that the guy is a ukrainian nazi
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:23 PM
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no one is "lesser" than a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:13 PM
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"lesser person"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:01 PM
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if they're open about how they feel then it's a choice their partners can make. that's not what happens actually though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:59 AM
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a lot of men end up settling with women they don't want to actually be with. But women don't understand that some men will quite literally die alone. And to them, being with someone they may not even like that much is better than being alone. it's not better for their partners though. if that's their choice they should die alone rather than use another person like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:56 AM
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i concur with the quote tweets. the male loneliness epidemic is fully self-inflicted and deserved and needs to get much worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:52 AM
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very woke of you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:27 AM
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yes they are? they start out as moody and dangerous to provide tension and drama for the narrative and a vehicle for sexual fantasy, but by the end they're perfect husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:37 AM
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Praise from family is not what this post is about. i know. it's about how women have to date op. and you, by the sound of it lol So a hyperminority of men? Thanks for proving OP's point. OBVIOUSLY, if you weren't RETARDED, that was an instruction of how to easily find examples of a thing op claims never happens. i can't tell him to look up private individuals or things happening between them in the real world. any searchable examples are going to involve more or less public figures. it also util…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:27 AM
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agreeableness is not spinelessness nor spinelessness agreeable, common mistake though
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:15 AM
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my model is as follows: agreeableness is uncomplicatedly attractive. however in our retard degenerate monkey culture, aspects of agreeableness are conflated with submissiveness and spinelessness (both ways! spineless people and plain losers often think of themselves as nice, and are often validated in this through others' superficial perceptions) and healthy boundaries are (somewhat context-dependently) perceived as disagreeable. male attractiveness is closely tied up with the male gender role, …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:12 AM
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it was a statement. the question mark at the end indicates that the answer is so extremely obvious i am questioning why you would even ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:52 AM
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you want to actually discuss the evidence? cause it's a very involved conversation and it's not really worth it if you're just looking for something quick to throw at me to save face after i expressed doubt any evidence could change y'alls mind on this. it's okay to say you don't want to hear it. i fully support men living their truth on this (except any individual man i care about). that's a terrible paper to cite for your specific claim. (i could find a better one; it's still not true.) the pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:18 AM
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the exact same thing is true of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:15 AM
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no.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:06 AM
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low agreeableness is unattractive, but this is one of those things pillbrained men will never believe no matter what evidence is presented, so they should just live their truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:18 AM
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it's become my main fear since i met my partner. even if we do get kids it would still be the literal worst possible thing, especially if the kids are small. it's one of those situations where the pressure and grief are immense but you can't even die
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:57 AM
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if a man wants to date he's free to either do what he can to try to make it happen, or accept he might not get what he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:28 AM
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what an absolutely schizo take. "disqualified for failing to make the first move"? insane logic. no, that's just not being that interested. yes, women "feel" they don't have to approach men. they're right and don't? it's voluntary. no implications on empathy or dehumanization whatsoever. you're talking as if you think women who would like to eventually find a connection with a man therefore owe something to men in general. that doesn't make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:21 AM
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it's in the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:47 AM
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i don't really see any similarity or connection between the two. "a guy who knows himself, respects himself, and thus has healthy standards and boundaries in his life and relationships" is not how i would ever describe a redpiller. i don't see any reason why a redpiller who feels the need to lie about his beliefs would come across as being the kind of guy you described, or why that kind of guy would ever seem like a redpiller. there are a lot of liars, abusers, narcissists etc of all kinds prete…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:40 AM
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...so, this WAS a bait and switch about women needing to date you all along. go get your validation from other men. better yet, start leading by example and giving it to them first.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:34 PM
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thanks. me too
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:25 PM
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how did this suddenly go from being about validation and praise to women putting out?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:17 PM
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nah man it's something you do with your entire body. most autistic guys lack the circuits that manage social processing, those are incredibly powerful and efficient, trying to compensate with your conscious bandwith is a complete non-starter. if you think your intellect is that all-powerful that's a sign you're doing a terrible job of making use of it since you're so unaware of its limitations. protecting delusions like that is a full time job.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:14 PM
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it's a matter of finding your auntie and grandma choir. granted, not every guy has ready access to one, but also i feel like that sort of thing is not valued by men? validation from older women is just discounted or even considered an embarrassment? like those aren't the people men want recognition from. that pretty much narrows it down to men becoming more supportive toward each other. which would be great, but i'm not holding my breath.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:07 PM
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that seems a little contradictory. you want me to find you an example, online, of a person who gets a lot of attention but is neither an influencer nor an irl public figure?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:54 PM
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maybe you should go look at the men who get ample praise from women sometimes. that's not even slightly rare. the eternal choir of aunties and grandmas loves nothing more than to tell good boys they are that. it's very easy to find, literally look for ANY dude who makes content for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:46 PM
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relationships yes, flirting no unless they're the type of autism haver who is not held back by it in any way whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:39 PM
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not that many people on here seem like that's within their scope? i always pursued primarily a deep intellectual connection. feels cringe in hindsight if i'm honest. i used to hold genuine dialogue (collaborative, creative, substantive conversation where each statement is in response to earlier ones and builds on them, participants egos are set aside and there is an effort to achieve true understanding and communication and harmonize paradigms) as the goal and standard, but that really is quite …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:29 PM
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also, you don't seem like your soul is very internet poisoned, that's good. try to keep it that way. i hope you find love.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 09:38 PM
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i'm audhd and engaged to an autistic man. someone in your position doesn't have a whole lot to lose by trying something different. there's lore out there that experimentally allistics clock masking in less than a second, and it gives them the creeps largely because it looks indistinguishable from predatory narcissistic/antisocial masking that falls just short of efficacy, right in the uncanny valley. same lore says a significant percentage of them will revert to seeing you as just a normal perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 09:34 PM
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a realistic male version of me is either dead or an addict. but if i looked like my dad, then the addict version of me would be reaping that bipolar/addict pussy with a goddamn combine harvester. if i had whatever cognitive or psychological normal male flaw that makes them get into the shittiest, most abusive relationships without hesitation i'd be constantly in relationships too. but i would always cheat so i'd be constantly getting in and out of them. i don't think harder or easier really appl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 08:10 PM
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what exactly do you think the game is here? what is she doing differently and more craftily than any other woman pursuing the same high value guy? pretending to be more desirable than she really is by working extra hard to maintain a facade? hiding her needs and desires and not asking him for anything? tolerating bad behavior from him? that literally sounds like the most basic and obvious dumb bitch plan in existence. it's basically what lowest common denominator media tells us we should do to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 05:06 PM
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the SEXUAL MARKETPLACE model seems to have convinced a lot of too online people that there exists an endless pool of every possible iteration of potential partners and there's some kind of frictionless process where you input your stats and cash in their equivalent amount of smv tokens and then get like a character creation sheet where you allocate your smv tokens to various traits and then the endless pool of possible partners delivers that when you boot up tinder. like when you customize your …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 04:31 PM
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bad strategy. that's a man advising women to give men everything right off the bat, even go further than that and give more than you're actually sustainably able to do, and hope he will eventually want to voluntarily start giving her something in return. you're just never going to get what you want that way, unless what you want is to serve a man who doesn't respect you and get none of your needs met. it might make sense if you're going for a guy who is so rich that it pays off that way, but the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:51 PM
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(certain) men's public appearance is totally unappealing because they always look their worst. they don't understand the concepts of self care, civilization, actively looking good for their dignity and self esteem, or as a form of self expression (they express that they're socially unaware, unappealing slobs), or to honor a special occasion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 01:59 PM
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i keep mixing his name up with another male given name from his culture that starts with the same letter. i've never known anyone called that and don't know why i can't stop the mixup from happening. it's mortifying
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:48 PM
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he never will 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 05:07 AM
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what about both at the same time? 😇
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 09:26 PM
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he literally had "could be raped any time" in the post when i replied and then edited to that lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:00 PM
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is he gonna do something about it? something illegal? or is this just about what's in his heart?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:38 PM
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yup, getting your info from BEAR ATTACK vids and not reputable sources, like i thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:00 PM
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some people don't know what's good for them smh
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:49 PM
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lol the amount of times i've googled bears and bear attacks in the last week and that has never once come up. also never once heard anything like that in the many times i've been taught what to do if i encounter a bear. some high risk of bear predation against humans is in fact completely at odds with everything i've ever read from reliable sources or been taught. sounds like something teenagers tell each other over a campfire, or a claim from some sensational bear attack documentary.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:29 PM
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i continue to not know it. you're just some rando online, offer no sources and don't seem terribly bright or honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:21 PM
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but it isn't wrong of me to look out for my own safety with strange men, or to discuss it publicly. it hurts some men's feelings, but it is strictly necessary for mine and other women's safety, so that just weighs more on the scale. that's life, there's sometimes tradeoffs. i'm sorry it makes you upset. i'm not going to start fighting the "narrative" that women should take reasonable precautions around strange men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:18 PM
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nope, i know no such thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:12 PM
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it's just facts man. all of it. every man IS a potential rapist if i don't know them and sometimes even if i do. if you offer me a totally life-changing sum for it i'm going to sleep with even you assuming it is safe and i'm actually going to get the money. so yeah, isn't the rest about haggling over the price like that charming old joke says? if you claim you don't have a price for taking dick too you're either lying, already loaded, a coward, or frankly pretty dumb. lord knows there's already …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:50 PM
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makes sense. good luck with your hunt
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:37 PM
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can't you get the dry ingredients where you live and make it yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:33 PM
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i had a phase like that in 2018. then it passed incredibly suddenly and i'm left with a cupboard full of expired powdered miso :/ the paste is amazing for cooking almost anything, but i have no idea what to so about the powder
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:30 PM
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how safe and busy is broadway? i don't know what you're saying here. secluded locations alone with no witnesses or help is what the woods stands for. not a busy place that someone has maybe heard bad things about, or hasn't, i don't fucking know. i can name many streets where i'd be safe 24/7 where i live, too, i live on one. also, SHOULD the woman do it if she wanted to be safe? like, are you saying that because not all smokers die from disease caused by smoking, it's fine?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:04 PM
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both are a part of the pattern i was referencing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:00 PM
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lol so you can't even imagine men facing any actual harm from women just hurt feelings? and you think there's an evenhanded comparison to be had on these terms?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:59 PM
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i would actually really like to see a bear in the wild, they're cool. of course ideally you'd stipulate more safety considerations than just the very open-ended "in the woods with a bear". but since the vast majority of bear encounters don't lead to attacks and the great majority of attacks aren't very serious, and since any human attack would be massively more traumatic than an equivalently physically harmful attack by a bear, i happily choose bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:55 PM
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partly because women actively avoid putting themselves in vulnerable situations. in the scenario as stated, alone in a remote location, just the type of situation a rapist would consider a great opportunity, it goes up by quite a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:51 PM
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you could be raped any time though? not EVERY time, but ANY time please tell me you understand the difference because i'm just losing faith in humanity over how many don't seem to
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:49 PM
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have you somehow missed that the entire point for women is avoiding people who would hurt them in situations where they could hurt them? that's some heroic dodging of clues
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:32 PM
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ma'am, even though the specific word was not used; you are describing functionally the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:28 PM
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if you can't figure out why women behave the way they do around risk, i'm unable to take your own word for being able to evaluate your own behavior for irrationality. cheers
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:22 PM
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if you feel under threat from sex workers under specific circumstances where they might do you harm, yeah it's probably best that you don't get into those situations with stranger women without vetting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:20 PM
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people take risks sometimes and not at other times. people weigh their other desires against risks. people are more conscious of some risks than others. you do it too. why not nitpick your own behavior instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:16 PM
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well the science is indeed being "shaped" by "political and social realities" that old song and dance about being "censored" while you're on primetime tv discussing your report that you had generous funding from the government to make, and that has already been adopted by major political parties as the basis of their policy, has a long tradition that goes right back to the nazis and has never once been used in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:10 PM
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there is no reasonable world where "discussing things openly" has to mean creating intentionally misleading media content presented by experts and prominent media organisations that relies on exploiting most people's well known and easily manipulable cognitive and emotional vulnerabilities and the reality that few have the expert background or time to check whether it's all bullshit or not. that's where we're currently at.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:56 PM
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yup, they won't really do any of this in any meaningful recognisable sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:48 PM
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the cass report is a politically commissioned hatchet job.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:29 PM
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categorically, no. the kind of solutions that would work are not possible under the current political system.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:19 PM
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that's really sad. i wish a sitcom found family situation to all of them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 12:12 PM
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and the vast majority of bear encounters do not lead to attacks either?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 11:22 AM
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if you won't accept 5-15%, what would you accept?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 11:17 AM
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if we have some sort of established connection i would sit him down and try to explain to him why what he's doing is unnecessary and counterproductive, and how to pursue love and happiness more effectively. maybe support his first steps in that. if he's just someone who isn't my problem, i would avoid him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 11:15 AM
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i would stop doing anything else, only take breaks for rest :(
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 11:11 AM
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just from an intellectual scientific perspective, the kind of stuff you hear being passed around is offensive. it's misapplied from what was junk science to begin with. if even uneducated women are too smart and grounded to accept broscience arguments over their own experience, that's good on them and you should respect them for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 10:51 AM
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yup! and these numbers aren't even the thing women actually base their risk calculus on. it's the ubiquitous threatening behavior they've experienced from men since 11 years old. most of it goes entirely under the radar for men and doesn't show up in any statistic. whereas bears avoid people, the vast majority of bear encounters do not lead to bear attacks, and at least where i live most attacks aren't serious. animals have no ill will and an attack is going to be a lot less traumatizing than ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 10:28 AM
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what's on ex-tradwife tiktok?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 10:08 AM
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no i'm engaged to a man not a bear. 0 bear friends, many good male friends
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:48 AM
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where did the generalization happen in the bear example?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:17 AM
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to your edit: what is the concrete, actual difference? not unfairly characterize people (men) as being a violent sex offenders based solely on their sex is there any version of acknowledging the danger from unfamiliar, unvetted men that does not in your opinion unfairly based solely on their sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:15 AM
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man still bear
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:12 AM
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because men do pose a danger to women we have to navigate in our lives and it's critically important for that that we are able to talk about it amongst ourselves and exchange notes. also i don't think this aspect of our experience is something that should be taboo in broader discourse. men should also be aware of it. but that's not as important, and this whole round of discourse has shown that y'all aren't ready to hear it at all and nothing good is going to come from seeking any sympathy, the t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:11 AM
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so the two first on my list? do you not see why that is not acceptable?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:59 AM
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i would choose a woman from any religion, minority, or culture over the bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:52 AM
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stalkers, harrassers, creeps. 5-15% of men admit to having raped in different samples. in some, 30% admit they would rape if given the opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:49 AM
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it's been tried multiple times and the reality is women do not care in the slightest. which is one part of why it's very difficult for us to take this outrage seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:46 AM
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because they have no concrete request for how we could show them consideration. i get that it feels bad! but sometimes you just have to recognise it's not about you or your feelings. the only suggestions offered were that women should stop considering men dangerous that women should stop talking about how men are dangerous to them that women should start policing other women and join the men piling on to them for saying men are dangerous to women do you see why this is not acceptable?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:44 AM
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because we get to choose men we are involved with in our personal lives. i don't think almost any man i know personally would be any kind of threat to me in the woods.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:38 AM
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a lot of men are willing to put in the work to understand women's reality what does this look like, in your view? because this is the one thing that was entirely missing from the male reaction to the bear discourse, which is exactly why there was pushback.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:21 AM
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he's gay and uses 23yo models as beards the models get a career boost
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:03 PM
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it is not. statistically women with older husbands die younger
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:01 PM
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well i wish you god speed in your efforts
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:03 PM
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probably can't! like it would be great if it was possible, but here idk how you'll get people to agree
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:59 PM
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well i am?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:14 PM
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i don't have to deal with it at all lol. i have a good man already, a sane adult not a voluntarily stunted online cult member
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:49 PM
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idk why you think they can't. the man i'm marrying had a fwb once and decided casual sex wasn't for him. overall having hooked up at some point seems from my pov to be a pretty common experience among settled down men, very possibly majority, but i wouldn't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:41 PM
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no most high profile feminist figures are careerist liberals, there is no movement just disparate narrow advocacy groups, and there is and will never be actual solidarity between women in the basis of gender because gender is nothing compared to class and nationality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:25 PM
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all of that applies to everybody not just men. it's just a fact of life that live will require vulnerability. we all have to figure out how to get out of our own way and not self-sabotage if we want to win despite it. it's specifically pill men that i'm criticizing here. not for being insecure, but for choosing the dumbest and most harmful reaction to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:19 PM
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it's not intended as cruel, it's meant to point you to a truth you may be oblivious to. if you undersign the purposefully grotesque caricature of normal insecurity in my post, which is actively encouraged in online communities, that is an insanely counterproductive way to deal with insecurity. you will alienate people and prevent them from having a good relationship with you. even if someone sticks with you regardless, you will keep them at an arm's length and never be able to trust their love. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:38 AM
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you will never be loved and you're doing it to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:08 AM
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yes. it's a great representative example in fact, in that it's a non-issue and not misandry, just like all "institutional misandry".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 09:10 AM
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in most countries they don't give out fosters to single people and usually not couples who don't already have kids. fostering is INCREDIBLY HARD the children are without exception terribly traumatized and have special needs. it's absolute nightmare mode parenting and as a result the system ends up being horribly abusive to the children. the support and benefits for foster families are nowhere near sufficient for the kids' needs. still there are cases where religious freaks take on multiple foste…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 08:40 AM
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that's 100% larp, a weird extreme cishet sexual thing that manifests through dumb trivial shit like men taking the curb side of the sidewalk or the woman having to pretend to swoon over the man's gun collection if he has one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 08:21 AM
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have you ever heard of the concept of solidarity? feminists absolutely suck at creating it to the point that i can't associate myself with feminism at all in any way. but that's what they're trying to ineptly do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 08:11 AM
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to make me maximally upset, i should be about 60-80% down the list. anything higher than that and i'll go aww they like me anyway, anything lower and i'll go haha made them mad. leave me out and i'll go phew nobody knows me i don't post here too much after all. but 60-80% down and i'll take it as being considered mildly annoying
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:53 PM
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so, i have ascended from the female blackpill, not the standard one obviously. men are not capable of love; their souls are bottomless black holes that will take everything from you, they only want to abuse and hurt; they consume women like things; they are deeply cynical and view relationships as fundamentally adversarial and transactional etc. etc. also my whitepill ascension is not stoic acceptance but more like a reframing concurrent with a shift to a more optimistic outlook.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:41 PM
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when a conversation is actually engaging it doesn't need to be carried by either party. if there's any carrying it's not going well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:14 PM
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yes but you don't know what she thinks about it unless you ask with a magic spell so she won't lie to spare your feelings. women often have a very inflated sense of what's average in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:10 PM
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i'm happily engaged. i believe a significant fraction of people of both sexes are plainly and irredeemably evil, but that none were destined to be that way ar birth. this includes many men with very toxic beliefs about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:07 PM
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no. i have ascended you can't observe human potential by looking at what most of them actually do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:37 PM
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it's pretty easy to come to the view that men are incapable of true love as a straight woman. obviously the content of the female blackpill is not the same as the standard one, it's much more informed by sexual predation etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:33 PM
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i agree with gladboys that it is an ascension from the blackpill, fully incorporates it but represents an optimistic view of humans and life. i'm not stoic or nihilistic though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:21 PM
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the premise of this thread seems to assume women are prone to lying about some specific thing to men and this holds men back from success in love. based on what i've seen on this board, the greatest concern men have about dating is that they don't trust women's love. they have insecurities and fear greatly the women are in any way just accepting and loving them regardless, rather than impressed with their every typical characteristic that is commonly used to rank men into a competitive intra-mal…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 05:31 PM
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i feel like a goddamn puppy constantly pestering him with my physical affection, compliments, asking about his day, texts, initiating conversation, initiating sex etc. etc. i've asked him if i bother him, and he is dumbfounded. why would it bother him, he loves it? well, if it doesn't, and it's not that he's taking a little time and space for himself, then why does he not also come to me? if i hug him a thousand times and he hugs me back a thousand times there's warmth and love there for both of…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:55 PM
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ok!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:29 PM
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oh. i'm sorry man, i don't know what to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:20 PM
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i just want him to do his part, for it to be mutual and at least somewhat symmetrical and not something i carry because that's not going to work long term. the teaching really is the only effort i resent, it's very difficult and doesn't feel like it's really my place. i would not do it if we were not both autistic, i couldn't justify it to myself otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:18 PM
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well once upon a time they introduced internal markets to sears, and
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:14 PM
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that's between you and yourself. i am getting the vibe that you may not think about this very much, from how you have the notion that love is scarce and focus on romantic love rather than all of it, and implicitly discount the rest. but it's entirely possible that's just a misunderstanding from a low bandwith communication format, and anyway this is not about what i think about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:12 PM
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for example, i'm trying to bring love in to my dork ass fiancé's life and he's just too dumb for it. trying to teach him the habit of showing love to me spontaneously. reaching out to me about 50% of the time instead of waiting for me to come to him and being content with how often i do it. saying things to me even if he doesn't have anything important to say. doing small things for me just because. considering my needs and responding to them like i am constantly considering his. my female frien…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:04 PM
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it's all the same love, just with different extras on top
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:53 PM
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does your mom not love you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:52 PM
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demonstrably false
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:48 PM
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you just don't see what others do to have love in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:48 PM
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it's still real. it's achievable for many who never do achieve it. there's love everywhere and if you discount what you receive from your friends and family and animals and sometimes even just from strangers in brief encounters and don't think at all about returning some out into the world that's not going to help you pursue the one kind of love that people on here are preoccupied with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:46 PM
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love is real motherfuckers
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:37 PM
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"hey women, do you constantly view the world in terms of men's sexual insecurities?" yessssssss so well put! that's about half of what goes on on this sub. and they will always call you a liar if you don't validate their insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 10:17 PM
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cuck as an insult has come to mean something very different online though. it doesn't have that much to do with actually being cheated on, it just represents the real insult of not being sufficiently dominant toward one's spouse or within the male hierarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:51 PM
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they really think being loved by one of us is a terrible humiliation and punishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:41 PM
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i agree. they want to be shit and be rewarded for it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 06:07 PM
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yes you individually. but overall the effect will be that more men will be able to date and get into relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 06:00 PM
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well, you could remove the slutshaming double standard and the threat to women's healthcare, make contraception accessible cheap and high quality and make better options for men, take sexual violence and violence against women seriously, make housework and childcare equal, and teach men to be considerate partners and to fuck better
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 05:39 PM
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i don't see it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:57 PM
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reddit itself is a place with a specific culture it is known for elsewhere online
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:09 PM
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you can believe your shitty cult religion all you want but don't expect me to validate it when i has nothing to do with my experience. i can't relate to what you're saying at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:57 PM
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you can find support for anything online if you go looking for it. there's a lot of people out there and most are bullshitters, they'll say things just to participate in what they perceive as the vibe of the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:46 AM
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okay? idk what you expect me to say to that. i'm sorry on their behalf that they hurt you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:44 AM
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don't you think it's kinda sad how y'all are here turning your noses up at people who love each other and are happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:42 AM
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no don't care seems they themselves are very determined to do the conscriptions in the order that will minimize resistance and demands to negotiate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:27 AM
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definitely sounds like these aren't her actual friends, trying to break her relationship up
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:20 AM
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being considered husband material is the most degrading thing a man can hear
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:11 AM
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about my partner? what for?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:01 AM
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takes a while (like, surprisingly long) to accept that it won't get better and come to terms with that. then they may try to make it better, and if it doesn't work they probably do stop. edit. that person is clearly talking about a very abusive relationship too. those fuck with your mind
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 08:58 AM
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that's very fucked up and insane?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 08:55 AM
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weird i never thought about what exactly? i find it very weird to form judgments about people based on their ability to have casual sex, or to speculate about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 08:51 AM
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nothing. it's not my experience, maybe it's theirs, or they could just be talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 08:45 AM
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i had casual sex before him. there is no superior looks benchmark.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 08:35 AM
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that comes off as a deranged rant completely removed from reality op. i don't validate any part of it, including the stated and presumably also quite a few unstated premises. it's badly hurt men saying those things as far as i can tell. it's definitely not me. i perceive my partner with the greatest love and adoration. i find the suggestion that either of us within our minds didn't value our relationship, emotional connection, and our commitment to taking care of each other for the rest of our l…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 08:29 AM
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domestic violence goes up when a lot of families are experiencing economic hardship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:52 AM
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thanks, we'll do our best!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:37 AM
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depends on what attachment issues they are. i was able to go from anxious-avoidant to secure by being in relationships that would probably have never worked anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:18 AM
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he has a jung kook
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:15 AM
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you're giving off massive red flags dude
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:14 AM
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because looksmaxxing is the only pill
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:29 AM
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because no one cares and it's a very boring topic
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:27 AM
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i've seen him input it enough times, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:26 AM
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that's... not what a bangmaid is?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:33 AM
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i still cry if i think too hard about my cat's last years 😭😭
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:32 AM
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or getting rich?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:30 AM
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it's part of the lifestyle deal for her. she'll just plate his food someone else cooked and larp a little tradwifey here and there, if he's really into that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:25 AM
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sub's been previously saying you can get bangmaids with personality? hahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:24 AM
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she shouldn't clean herself, just manage the hired help
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:22 AM
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no you just have to know where to look (brazil)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:20 AM
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the average man and average woman not having that much in common thankfully, you can find and select the person who does have important commonalities with you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:14 AM
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i don't think these days you'll get a really hot woman to do that for nothing. think of the opportunity costs for her
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:10 AM
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recruitment is a whole ass subspecialty of hr with its own professionals
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:08 AM
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it's the 'tism
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 11:55 PM
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skill issue
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 11:50 PM
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no you just have to be rich
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 11:47 PM
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i don't really have a physical type tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 11:38 PM
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way earlier than that. people's lives change, they graduate, move, change jobs, find a partner, quit hobbies, get sick, and the worst of all is when they get kids at every change you tend to shed friends. at every change your friends go through there's a chance you'll fall out of touch. it becomes increasingly challenging to come up with activities. over time it gets less and less natural to pick up new friends as the changes happen. and kids change your entire life and outlook, many new parents…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 11:31 PM
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i would almost certainly have swiped left on him. he is not good at self marketing. hates doing it. i can't imagine what kind of profile he'd even be able to put together. plus he looks like kind of a dork at first glance 🥰 he is one of those men who cannot look at a camera without a constipated look on their face.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 10:56 PM
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i'm not jealous of the life-saving surgery he had that massively improved his qol, energy levels and general health :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 10:14 PM
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he is aware & disinterested 😇 and anyway there's nothing in it for him, i'm the second best thing that's ever happened to him and alienating me would make his life much worse
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 08:29 PM
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i'm not being deep. just saying no, it was never given that i would end up okay. it's still not tbh, but at least i'll get this one thing. also i do not look down on anyone for not having what i have. only stupid people, but that's fine because no one thinks they're stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:15 PM
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there were two of me. the other one killed herself
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:07 PM
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dance classes are actually really good advice
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:05 PM
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yes my fiancé is really nice and sweet 🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:04 PM
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yeah happiness seems really cringe from the outside i remember :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:02 PM
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so happy to be marrying a bluepilled man <3<3<3
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 06:58 PM
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these days i hear it quoted most by bitter guys casting themselves as nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 05:24 PM
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that's gc women, not feminists. i don't think they even call themselves feminists these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 05:13 PM
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the gel thing has been vaporware for over 15 years now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 05:12 PM
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if you ask me, probably just that women aren't delusional, shitty and dumb enough to attribute their failures and trials to being "too nice". that is a transparent justification for not being nice, and such a complete misunderstanding of niceness that it raises questions about whether the person is even theoretically capable of being nice at all. at work it's pretty straightforward, it's not women complaining about being too nice, but other people belittling them and taking advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 04:54 PM
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If the average man was an emotionally well, safe, financially stable, decent person that's a completely alien universe. i can't imagine even a single aspect of a world like that. i can't imagine who i would be in that world, or what problems would exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 04:48 PM
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i don't really care.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 04:38 PM
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nice girls finish last type sentiments apply to work, not relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 04:37 PM
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it's ridiculous to ask men, they are the last people to give you an honest appraisal of porn
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 04:25 PM
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the vast majority of porn also depicts violence. the brain damage is not being able to see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 04:24 PM
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that's no different from porn in any way
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 04:08 PM
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i watched gore as a teen. been exposed to cp multiple times. i have no business turning my nose up at people who have looked at things online. ongoing porn use is a totally reasonable thing to have discussions and even standards and boundaries about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 03:04 PM
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definitely fatter than those ^
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 02:44 PM
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no one should ever be forced to listen to divorced bitter guys anywhere for any reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 12:48 PM
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i like fat guys
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 12:48 PM
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women overall tend to be better rule followers, accept responsibility for low status communal tasks where men will tend to shirk and avoid, and they are more agreeable than men. for managers of organizations where humans act as just parts in a greater whole and must be able to put their ego aside, those are some of the most valuable characteristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:34 PM
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i have considered it extensively and it's crystal clear how the form and function of the beliefs exploits psychological human weaknesses just like cults always do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:06 PM
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it's also hard to make sense of. pedophilia and societal attitudes toward that are also very closely related here. i'm sure many different mechanisms contribute, but i've observed the scapegoating with a few other societal ills we are trying to avoid acknowledging, so i'm convinced that's definitely a dynamic that exists in the human individual and group psyche.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 08:43 PM
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it's scapegoating. we pretend rape is the most evil thing of all, in order to pretend that normal guys can't be capable of it and that women who make accusations must be lying because it's just so reprehensible you couldn't believe such a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 08:20 PM
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inaccurate. i'm the natural match of the kind of idiot nerds who get taken in by that bs. i spent far too long going through the trash for just one salvageable guy before giving up and moving to greener but more competitive pastures.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 08:05 PM
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we have some prominent agitators on social media, but obviously most of the organization is keeping a low profile and entering critical positions. many require background checks, security clearances, or just maintaining a professional persona.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 04:54 PM
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we just haven't been organized and determined enough. but that is coming to an end.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 04:42 PM
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it's possible theoretically, but not in practice yet. the stored sperm will carry us over the time it takes to finish developing that technology.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 04:05 PM
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the men sure bro. definitely some man somewhere, just not you, right? it's strange to me that y'all are so deep in denial that the whole state of gender relations is 100% a result of male refusal to do equal childcare and other menial labor. througout history it has been, and still is. robots but then again since you think robots can ever perform carework, it's maybe actually not that strange after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:48 PM
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y'all have serious issues with literacy. in context of "women need men" "no we could literally eradicate you and continue society just fine" the point is not "we could literally eradicate you", it's "we could continue society just fine". and we could.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:40 PM
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who's gonna raise the kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:34 PM
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addressing resistance is of course one of the main focuses of our planning. there are unsolved problems still, mainly due to the sheer scale of the logistics of a swift, coordinated global operation that should in the ideal scenario be completed before significant organized resistance can solidify. i unfortunately can't share the action plan here, but it's the fruit of years of work by hundreds of extraordinarily competent people. we're all very proud and excited to be part of a project of such …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:16 PM
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blue pillers include all people who've never heard any of the pill shit. even those misogynists who just aren't familiar with the particular meme complex of the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 02:42 PM
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yes yes, it's the normal people out in the world who are truly brainwashed; i and my cultist brethren alone have reached true consciousness
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 02:24 PM
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that's not really accurate. we could literally eradicate you and continue society just fine. collect enough sperm samples before disposal to ensure genetic variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 02:15 PM
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i don't assert that, there are many frustrations with dating i would agree with regardless of the gender of who expresses them. this sub has men who have been marinating in the pill bullshit, they're unlikely to be able to form coherent critiques of dating due to having had their minds poisoned by cult propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 02:08 PM
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ok
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:10 AM
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pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:08 AM
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there had better be 0 guys saying no
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:07 AM
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i did but i kept seeing their posts anyway. it's a dumb feature
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:05 AM
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i hate how we can supposedly force you to harrass us, but there's no way to force you to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:59 PM
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we're dishonest liars if we say anything other than validate your darkest masochistic self pity fantasies. height is such a boring feature in a man ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:57 PM
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congratulations!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:53 PM
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that's nice!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:46 PM
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sure, as a current pop culture phenomenon it doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:45 PM
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jazz isn't dead it's just a weird niche of academic musicians these days. but things are happening, new stuff is being tried. imo things don't have to have mass appeal or a huge volume of activity to be alive, just something new being created and evolution happening. then at some point it'll be called something else when it's changes enough, maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:32 PM
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rare hinkle w
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:27 PM
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what kind of music does he make?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:26 PM
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not metal. indie rock i guess
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 10:59 PM
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bands like the war on drugs still release new music
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 10:56 PM
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tag yourself i'm the misandrist. also a little bit the edgelord
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 10:17 PM
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no, seems we're on the same page. i just wasn't sure if you meant i could never understand being lonely because i can only be lonely by choice and that's different somehow. i don't agree with that. being with someone who doesn't treat you well, or just in an unhappy relationship, can be an incredibly lonely experience. it's less lonely to leave that situation. i'm willing to accept that being alone with no choice is a third, different way to feel alone that i can't fully understand, but not that…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 10:15 PM
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makes sense. it's an oddly underrated thing to save your time for people who are actually into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:59 PM
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it's not that simple either! you can't do too good of a job or you can ruin your health and life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:46 PM
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i sympathize with male fatties too
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:38 PM
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they're not, because often it takes women time to figure out and assert what actually works for them sexually and then after that they become less willing to compromise their own desires to please their partner. i stopped having sex with men altogether when i thought it might be a distraction from finding someone who actually wants to be with me. it didn't really help, but eh, it was worth trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:35 PM
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what does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:05 PM
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it's very easy for you to say that, with no chance whatsoever of ever being offered that deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:58 PM
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the cost of raising a child is impacted most by costs like healthcare, childcare, education, transportation and housing, which are mostly services and known for having gone through much stronger inflation than consumer goods, and also often not being included in price indexes. the acceptable standard for a child's education has gone up in a socioeconomically dependent manner. school district has to be good or they should go to private school, and to be "competitive" in college admissions and "ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:55 PM
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that situation is absolutely unacceptable and should never have happened and she's entirely correct to try to fight it. if the man's sublease is in violation of the roommate's lease it's void and yes they should prevent him from entering the apartment. the man failed his due diligence wrt moving in with roommates.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:15 PM
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i've had bad experiences pursuing men too. it's true that they will string you along, sometimes because it costs them nothing and sometimes because they themselves are desperate and think they'll never get another chance and at least you're there. the thing is, men can do both of those things when they take the initiative, too. the only defense is to learn to recognize that behavior, and make your threshold for walking away nonexistent. being willing to pursue guys can help you set the threshold…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:59 PM
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i don't think the choice paradox is an actual issue. like, it's one of many contributing factors in why dating apps don't serve people looking for a relationship very well. but any individual woman can very easily overcome it if she's motivated.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:29 PM
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that's unfounded. any "community" that people self select into can very easily become heavily overrepresented with narcissists. also communities have norms which can enforce narcissistic behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:01 PM
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that's incoherent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:54 PM
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to do what?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:45 PM
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i don't get the connection. why does what i said make sense only if the shorter hours women work are directly attributable to having children?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:22 PM
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It might be good for women, technically sure, but it comes at the cost of society and men. well done, you understand the nature of oppression. it's not something that just happens for the sake of being evil, it's to extract benefit from someone and make them bear the cost. when you scale down doing that to women, then you can no longer direct as many extracted benefits to men. from your amoral, male-sympathizing perspective, that's a loss. society continues to impose undue cost of social reprodu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:12 PM
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people do have a lot of ways to gauge what the other person's contribution to those things is going to be starting from the first meeting, and to signal their own level of motivation and skill. especially for doing relationship upkeep.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:43 PM
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disappointed and confused because you carried that entitlement into a world where women have the economic power to not be forced. so well put!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:30 PM
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what's a single real life historical example of a society where women had freedom to choose their partner or to stay unattached, and it lead to those things?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:24 PM
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i agree social media and dating apps suck. i'm optimistic that it's not inherent to them, we just happened to unlock that change at a time when we were already very fucked up. but if people have time to adapt and develop new culture around technology, it might turn out to be fully manageable while we learn to develop and make better use of the benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:38 PM
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i'm making the argument that the consequences of women entering the workforce will be playing out for a good while still. we have not seen where this is going yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:46 PM
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he's 20
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:35 PM
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historical societal shifts work on historical timescales, not on human timescales. institutions and culture have inertia. when the material reason underlying some convention goes away, it takes 1-2 generations for the change to take effect, and longer for a new convetion to form and set in.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:28 PM
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in what ways would these insecurities manifest? that women would then react negatively to?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:08 PM
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being forced into a relationship through dependence by limiting your freedom across all areas of life is orders of magnitude worse than being free to seek love but failing. it's like comparing slavery to unemployment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:59 AM
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a really huge thing would be to share housework, childcare and effort put into the relationship equally, too. for some reason men with complaints about access to women resist admitting that the desire for a relationship is asymmetrical because heterosexual relationships still benefit men at the expense of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:52 AM
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you think men missing out on forced relationships is worse than forcing women into relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:46 AM
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Taking into consideration what an ENORMOUS amount of women in these conditions choose NO-ONE. What does it tell you about women? What does it tell you about women's true internal works when it comes to their attitude towards men? just what exactly are you saying here? that it's somehow inherently wrong or unacceptable that women would choose to be single over the relationship options available to them, so therefore women having the freedom to follow that preference is not good?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:43 AM
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it is unequivocally a good thing women aren't forced to be with men against their will. says a lot that you can't agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:36 AM
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outside of the context of a man approaching a woman, i'm not convinced this is the case. do you have other examples of petty male insecurities that are unlikely to be tolerated by women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:28 AM
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you tolerate the shortcomings of people you want to have a relationship with. that is not established when men approach women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 10:53 AM
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so your issue is not at all actually about women tolerating men's insecurities, but about women not being attracted to men approaching them insecurities at the forefront? because that's a completely different issue altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 10:30 AM
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men should learn social skills. if they have to, then according to a regimented, systematic etiquette code, if they can't be taught just normal social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 11:31 PM
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the evil women cause EMOTIONAL PAIN thus FORCING THE MAN TO KILL HIMSELF. that's MURDER
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 11:25 PM
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people who consider a major, slightly risky change are more happy with how their life turned out 10 years on if they went through with it, even if it ended up not working out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:43 PM
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and what's the definition or cutoff for symptoms?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:40 PM
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no, i'm not. i just fucked a few late 30s guys, noticed a pattern, was surprised, asked around from both older men and women who fuck men, talked to a doctor. based on what i heard it's not uncommon. but it's not data, i don't have incidence rates or an age breakdown. it's not considered a clinical issue, as it doesn't affect anything really. the dick is just observably not as hard as it used to be anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:38 PM
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i can't open that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:33 PM
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85% is "good", it's just a bit awkward to insert but otherwise it works normally.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:32 PM
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yeah sorry. it's not all of them but it's not uncommon. the first women enter premenopause at the same time. health is precious and youth really short.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:29 PM
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closer to 40 that's just normal unfortunately, even without porn. many can reliably get only like 85% hard anymore. age.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:03 PM
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beautiful 😍
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:53 PM
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i see more of them fully buying into the adversarial transactional power games and status vehicles view of relationships themselves. they don't question that looks are some sort of currency that determines a person's partner value. they have a totally miserable view on even the relationships they hold aspirational. that's why the male blackpill doesn't make sense to me. if it's so horrible, why would you want it? why would you make your entire life about rolling in self pity for not being able t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:49 PM
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brought you closer though, didn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:46 PM
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depends on how physically uncomfortable i am. if it's not a very easy pregnancy hell no and he has no business asking, wtf. if i'm close to normal physical capacity and just with a beach ball belly then sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:43 PM
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you're not really truly comfortable around your partner until you shit yourself in front of them. ie let the father be present for childbirth
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:39 PM
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i'm just telling you what the female black pill is, even my flair says that's not what i'm about. i have a man and i love him very much and don't doubt that he also does really love me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:24 PM
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are you taking the girlblackpill?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:15 PM
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plenty do, i'm not denying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:14 PM
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except women are right
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:04 PM
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the female blackpill isn't that they can't get a hot guy, it's that men are misogynistic and treat relationships as transactional power games and vehicles to status competition, and will never truly love you or treat you like a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:02 PM
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well that's very dumb of you because my point is legit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:53 PM
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here, why don't i change a reasonable point to a stupid one so you can see how stupid it was!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:44 PM
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prejudice without oppression doesn't count for anything. it's just people having opinions at that point. i don't understand the calculus where you weigh women's reasonable safety concerns and precautions against some men feeling bad that they aren't automatically trusted by women who don't know them, and women's safety doesn't clearly come out ahead. i just don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:35 PM
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is that maybe because you can extend empathy to a hypothetical person who has concerns about being catfished and consider the concerns understandable and valid, but can't for some reason extend that same empathy to women concerned for their own physical safety?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:28 PM
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that's because of the underlying stark material reality of gendered oppression, m8. it really goes only one way, and defines everything. if you're going to be in denial about it then idk what to tell you, things are just going to keep being confusing to you. maybe you interact mostly with western middle class women who don't themselves understand the nature of gendered oppression that well, who are maybe plainly just horrible people and whose troubles seem trivial to you due to a combination of …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:20 PM
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it upset me when i learned that most men (and women for that matter) are misogynistic. at this point it's kinda baked in, and that's one reason women don't view men as trustworthy. i'm cute and i introduced myself to my fiancé by sliding into his dms. we couldn't meet up right away as we're ldr, and there was a 2 month long period over which he gradually grew less and less suspicious that i might be a catfish. i was not even slightly offended by that at any point, and can't imagine having been. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:15 PM
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that's because everyone gets that it means random and not average. only random makes sense in context as an interpretation and the vast majority of people aren't used to rigorous terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:08 PM
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i was not able to find data on P(bear attack | bear encounter) vs P(man attack | random encounter alone in a secluded location). but if you did i'm interested and you have the chance to settle this once and for all!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:06 PM
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oh. that's incredibly callous and self centered, and does explain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:03 PM
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so y'all are mad because you think the meme is stupid? didn't sound like it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:58 PM
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it's not the average man, it's a random roll of any man, and we know there is a fraction who are dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:57 PM
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i'm genuinely not lol i would stay off of this sub if i was upset by a little bit of misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:56 PM
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i will go to my grave never understanding what made this so upsetting to so many men. it's not possible they weren't already aware that strange women aren't very welcoming. it's not possible that they weren't aware that women have safety concerns about men they don't know. i can't figure it out. maybe it is something about the bear and being compared to one that sets them off?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:46 PM
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well, i would care about the reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 11:55 PM
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the world being physically so uncomfortable for tall people is actually pretty fucked up. my fiancé's back is getting really reactive. he has to go lie down after doing the dishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 11:54 PM
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i have multiple spinster aunts who lived happy full lives without any male attention whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 11:49 PM
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it's so cute when y'all live in a hell entirely of your own making
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 11:43 PM
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what can i say, you need to really hate men to get a good one
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 11:40 PM
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guy lying he's taller - insecurity about his height, trying to get women who wouldn't otherwise go on a date with him to do so guy lying he's shorter - unclear but could be avoiding chasers, just enjoying a little bit of benign chaos, or messing up minor details for privacy/anonymity
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 11:36 PM
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the motive behind the lie is completely different
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 11:29 PM
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very different kinds of lies!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 11:26 PM
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They would be relieved to see anything walking on two legs yes, a bear
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:57 PM
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wild bears pop in to say hi to russians all the time too. do your dashcam footage research man
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:54 PM
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russians hang out with bears all the time, they feed them stuff and try to tame them and teach them to play cards and a bear sized harmonica, this is well documented on tiktok and youtube. yet only 10 russians get mauled to death each year. of 140 million russians, with over 100 000 bears.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:45 PM
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it's just a clickbait framing. benevolent sexism is basically the blue pill and passes for feminism on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:39 PM
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it's insane what y'all believe about bears.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:36 PM
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i can't figure out through google whether grizzlies are actually that much more dangerous than plain brown bears or not. americans are terribly dramatic about them, but the instructions from authorities seem to be about the same than with normal brown bears. anyway i'm consistently talking about eurasian brown bears because that's what i know about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:29 PM
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well i'm sorry, i spoke too soon i guess i can't admit to having been pumped and dumped by chad then after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 09:56 PM
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i've only fucked one chad. he took me home to see his parents for christmas, it didn't last long but it was serious, we auditioned each other for marriage but found our goals for family life were not compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 09:49 PM
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seems they were only asked their current relationship status? i don't think that can shed a lot of light on how many people date casually at some point in their lives. also there's a lot of conflation of serial dating and casual dating/sex here, due to ambiguous definitions. some people who would themselves describe their situation as an exclusive ltr may be being led on by their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 09:41 PM
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is it even a revenge fantasy though? the beta husband is the suffering party here, what's he ever done?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 09:32 PM
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i'll admit to it. i was a gay guy's straight experiment once. really liked him too, terribly disappointing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 09:29 PM
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yessssssss
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 09:16 PM
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we don't call it that we call them fuckboys and they don't dump us they drop the pretense so we'll dump them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 09:15 PM
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course he doesn't
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 09:09 PM
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yes it is, just spend time around cool people instead of whoever you're trying to win approval from now
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:53 PM
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i used to be anxious-avoidant, but now i'm secure. it's not so bad, when you have a really hopeless one like anxious-avoidant you'll be motivated to figure it out, it's surprisingly easy to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:50 PM
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it is a very dumb sub, yes, but it's gauche to say that on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:43 PM
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yup, basic bitches love liking the same thing at the same time. but it's still our preference! this season we stan bears.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 07:46 PM
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yeah, most likely. and a bear is most likely to run away from an encounter. which number is bigger? predators per 100 men, or odds that the bear doesn't do what they nearly always do?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 07:42 PM
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it really seems as if the outraged side in this conversation is deliberately exaggerating the dangerousness of bears. either that or then all these guys have been taught to fear bears much more than anyone who lives near them seems to (excepting polar bears, but nobody lives within polar bear range anyway).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 07:32 PM
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i've been repeatedly telling you, not all men. mine is perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 07:02 PM
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this is not about the average man this is about a random man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 06:47 PM
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i'm 100% ride or die for my future husband. so no not all men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 06:36 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 06:33 PM
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when i go low you go high
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 06:27 PM
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right right, civility! the third one, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 06:26 PM
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their predator instincts can get triggered by humans when humans behave in prey-like manner, but they do not hunt humans. you believe what you want, but understand that most of the women whose views on this you disapprove of do not agree with you and reason accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 06:23 PM
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yeah we're just making it up to hurt your feelings. and it worked really well!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 06:17 PM
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bears don't actively hunt humans no not all men just you
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 06:12 PM
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are you new on the internet, slow, or a registered democrat?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 06:11 PM
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i don't wonder why more men want ai sexbots. i don't believe many men want ai sexbots. but for the ones that do, i wish them a happy rest of their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 06:04 PM
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they won't though. any man trying to obfuscate realities or influence women against caution or talking it over amongst themselves is in full solidarity with the rapists. carrying water for them, doing their part to create a great operating environment, maintaining doubt and muddling the issue to delay serious attempts at a solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 05:47 PM
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happy to confirm that anytime! glad i could help ☺️
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 05:23 PM
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that's the first time i'm hearing that version. i thought the one with "stuck in rhe woods with" was the original. and again, people clearly are not having the discussion you're saying they are/should be/idk what having.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 05:19 PM
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bears must be respected none of that can be said about men indeed!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 05:11 PM
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that's a very overly literal interpretation and the general conversation clearly is not proceeding from it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:59 PM
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we should be considering the number of men the average woman encounters alone in a secluded location, not the number of any encounters with men. data is unavailable on that. i can say with 100% certainty though that the bear is not going to be a stalker or a rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:01 PM
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both have the capacity to kill me dead. i don't know P(bear attack | bear encounter) or P(murderous man attack | encounter random man alone in the woods). both are low, and i can't rank them with confidence without data i do not have.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:59 PM
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why would i let you "frame" what outcomes i'm allowed to find undesirable?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:35 PM
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genuine question — i've been following the shitstorm and have no idea what the "debate" is supposed to be? men arguing women shouldn't be afraid of them and women arguing, what exactly? "i'll trust my own judgment thanks"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:31 PM
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no problem man anytime you need misandry proved hmu
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:22 PM
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The same can be said for interacting with men. ...i am saying it about both cases. Yeah but when the bear attacks you that is a killing machine attacking you. This is like a giant dog that is impossible to defeat. The best fighters on the planet would get absolutely destroyed by a bear. nah man lot of the time they're trying to scare you and will do fake attacks or stop and run away if you get like one good kick in.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:16 PM
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i don't think you have the applicable probabilities, and neither do i, so it's a nonstarter to be comparing numbers. based on extensive experience, and knowing attacks are an unlikely worst case scenario in both cases, i'm going to also consider the much higher likelihood that the man doesn't hurt me but ruins my day. i also want to avoid that. the bear is much less likely to direct its attention to me and act menacingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 02:52 PM
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😇
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 02:36 PM
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nothing to do with statistics. i live in bear country and have been taught since childhood that bears must be respected but they're not hostile and want nothing to do with you. that if you let them know you're coming they will avoid you. that you're only in trouble if you surprise one. none of that can be said about men. the one thing you can never trust a man to do is mind his own fucking business.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 02:35 PM
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that's good too, i can escape while the bear distracts the man by disemboweling him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 02:32 PM
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how is stating a preference "talking out their ass"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 01:51 PM
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give women cop status ie. decriminalize emptying your clip into a person who made you "feel unsafe"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 01:40 PM
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she means, feminism isn't valid because it's not about the poor men's feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 09:07 PM
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honestly just are they a good person? do they treat others well, have integrity, figure their stuff out so it won't make problems for others. it's fine to have a job, live with your parents and be a celibate bachelor, but it's neutral. you could still be an awful person or a great guy. people with misogynistic attitudes give themselves away fairly readily online. in real life it's much harder. i just look for signs of good character in general, for example where a person is going to turn their b…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 09:03 PM
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none of those things matter at all when i'm weighing a guy's harmfulness potential to women or his "allyship" however that is to be understood. in fact it's giving indian, and that's not going to make me expect a very woke guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 08:46 PM
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i go to the men's room whenever for whatever reason. i'd consider it fair if someone had a problem or if i got kicked out, but that's never happened. i would probably stop pretty quickly if it started happening. as for a man in the women's room, that's unacceptable. i personally would not be bothered, but the violation of norms is improper. it's well established that the vast majority of women are strongly against it, and in fact that's why we have separate toilets. you can't go around knowingly…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:58 PM
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femininity is inherently demeaning and i want nothing to do with it, ever. if i felt feminine i would want to kms. thankfully i don't buy into it, so i don't have to live my life like an insecure Masculine Man, constantly having to watch out for accidentally doing something too girl-coded. i can just live my life like a normal person without any artificial limitations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:48 PM
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B all the way. socialize the cost of social reproduction! no longer rely on women as private individuals to bear the cost of raising the next generation! society needs young people? pay people to birth and raise young people! subsidize their needs! provide free high quality services! society needs its young people to be better? mobilize resources to develop the best education system science can create!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 11:10 PM
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simple. people DO NOT KNOW how to date successfully. it's an unsolved problem. anyone who succeeds does it more or less through a combination of instinct and dumb luck. good dating advice for women doesn't exist either, except advising caution but that doesn't really help them succeed as much as it helps them avoid particularly undesirable outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 10:47 PM
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speak for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 10:41 PM
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hahaha roosh v! that's a throwback. last i remember hearing about him was when he "found religion". he was a little too ahead of the curve there, became irrelevant and now they're all converting to catholicism and islam in droves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 10:40 PM
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definitely does bring a deranged energy. it gets so weird when you have to delineate what counts and what doesn't, and try to remember exactly what you did with everyone. over things that happened years ago and have no relevance anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 10:30 PM
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demonstrably mostly due to gun ownership rates and method choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 03:35 PM
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what has been up with this guy's posts recently did he fire his social media manager
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 02:58 PM
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sure if you're like 24 but 30? if you haven't been lucky enough to spend a lot of time in ltrs, but have dated to try to find a ltr?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 12:47 PM
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probably not if i noticed it. dating dumb guys feels wrong, it brings out a really bad side of me where my frustrated attempts to connect turn into a lot of tension and unhappiness until i start showing misanthropic tendencies and wondering whether stupid people even have souls. i wouldn't want to be on the other side of that. i feel like my dignity would be compromised.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 05:07 AM
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42 is a lot to remember. definitely would be skeptical they didn't miss someone
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 04:52 AM
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were they all under 10? i haven't been sure since around 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 04:49 AM
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i'm so sorry they got to you with that whole psyop and you ended up going through that op.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 04:48 AM
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yeah, i wish my fiancé was a bit more outgoing and socially oriented. i prefer him very strongly to every other man on the planet, but i often wish he was a little different. or just changed his habits at least. i don't think he suffers from this in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 12:52 AM
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nah brain damage can definitely help have you heard of phineas gage?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 12:40 AM
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Do people seriously keep track? I've always found it really difficult to believe anyone would remember their count accurately once it's even in the low double digits. So do people have like little diaries or something? Recite a list of names and acts every night at bedtime? Or what
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 11:55 PM
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why, have the guys established some kind of a reputation? i have some pretty out there gender politics, it seems contradictory but it's really not. of the more standard options i'm most sympathetic to the female blackpill, but i have too much faith in mankind and also i captured a rare good man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 10:56 PM
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glad you found it worthwhile!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 10:02 PM
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depends on who you're asking. a redpill dude? he's not, chads don't commit, and you certainly haven't bagged one an incel? if course he is, women only date chads
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 09:58 PM
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they're taught it's not their job.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 09:46 PM
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it's more the inflexible and black and white thinking, and tbh also being taken in by the n-count meme that's not going to help you achieve what you want in life or look smart. i don't like casual sex and wouldn't want to date people who are really into it either. that part does make perfect sense. where it gets just silly is drawing the line at ever having done it. that's puritanism. again i advise you to not concern yourself with what other people think. i'm just not going to think you're cool…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 09:17 PM
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My fiancé has a friend he had a desperate crush on for years. We're not from a culture where people really buy each other stuff that much, so that's not applicable. What he does is help her with things I would say somewhat more than what is normal between friends of that closeness level. He still does it since it's an established pattern in their friendship and she still keeps asking. When I found out, I was worried that I'd gotten in the middle of something unresolved. But now that I know there…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 09:05 PM
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this is a very charged topic that has reached critical mass on social media. people stop thinking and get really dumb during pile-ons. what i'm saying is, if you're going to have a preference, just have it and shut up about it. that's the only smart way to avoid being judged. i personally think your preference is dumb and won't help you, and also won't help you appear reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:39 PM
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bullshit. there's a bunch of reasonable assumptions you can and should make about what kind of behavior risks making the median person uncomfortable and what doesn't. you're not responsible for accounting for the most unpredictable yet possible reactions to your actions, and that's not entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 01:34 PM
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Not sure what to say here? It's always been well known (and warned against among women) that some men pretend to be feminists just to be more effective rapists and abusers. But, you know, #NotAllMen!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 12:29 PM
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normal people are trying to talk sense into flat earther grade cult inductees. i don't know why they do it, it's nice of them to try, but if people think 30% of women are in polygamous relationships without knowing it they are beyond help. it also doesn't hurt anyone but themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 12:04 PM
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I don't think anybody's making that case? Emotional labor is used across a range of contexts, getting paid adequately for carework or customer service is one and really has nothing to do with relationships. When it comes to relationships what is usually being said is that there is a certain amount of various stuff, some of it pretty abstract, not overall even that related to emotions specifically, that needs to be taken care of for the relationship to work. And then often a criticism is made abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 10:14 AM
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There were aspects of the old way that were better for everyone. As a whole, absolutely not. Most people, even ones who do feel like something was lost, would never agree to go back. This should tell you something. We're in an unstable stage, a transition. Human customs only really work when they are stable, whether tradition or just the way things are ordered. The new way isn't formed and developed yet. So of course it's not going to work right now. Women aren't as unhappy with the situation as…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 10:06 AM
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A lot of them do yes. Many are completely fake and cynical. Some don't. It's a predictable failure mode of children and some adults to not be able to understand that other people have inner lives which are the same yet different as yours. Like, you ever met a christian who doesn't believe someone simply doesn't believe in god? They will only believe the unbeliever is either rebelling against god, or worships satan, and keep asking which it is? You ever come across that? There are 40yo men who sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 09:50 AM
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You can't know either way. I am a very private person and don't like social media a lot. But now that I have a happy relationship, I do sort of want to tell the world. I think about it all the time, and want to brag to everyone, so it makes sense that I'd be tempted to post about it too. For platforms like fb and instagram, with my widest circle of friends, family and acquaintances, I feel almost obligated to post about the happiness. They've heard me complain so much and seen me go through bad …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 09:34 AM
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