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CMVblue_alpaca_97/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 09:49 PM
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And in your one comment you moved the goalpost multiple times. Weird that you misunderstand the definition of "constantly" but alright then.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 08:14 PM
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Not disagreeing with the point you're getting at, but the flipside of this that there is also some truth to is the argument that men aren't taught how to court women and women aren't taught how to be courted and also be receptive to those well-intentioned efforts. There's an art to courtship that has gone out of fashion in the modern era, for better or worse. Plenty of women give men unnecessary shit for being "controlling" or "old-fashioned" for having simple relationship standards/preferences,…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 08:10 PM
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If a man isn't encouraged to act like a man, he won't. And that's bad for women and society at large. This discussion is about macro-level societal effects.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 08:06 PM
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Why are you fixated on this point? Am I taking crazy pills?! Why is no one in this thread addressing my overarching thesis?!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 05:57 PM
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He's pointing out that women who pursue masculine roles still expect a man of equal or higher socioeconomic status who will fulfill his traditionally masculine roles and duties without her being a traditionally feminine woman who fulfills her feminine roles and duties. It's a fair point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 05:56 PM
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You're constantly moving the goalposts and not addressing anything I'm actually saying. I'm not interested in playing victimization olympics.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 05:53 PM
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The fact that people can take my use of "needed" and read it as me advocating for women to be dependent captives is fucking wild to me. Absolute internet brainrot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 05:28 PM
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The argument can also be made that women dismiss the efforts men make to keep everything going. The world was built and is still upheld by men. The building you're living in, the roads you drive on, the buildings, the police, fire services, power line operators, oil rig workers, inventors, etc. That's a truth that I think is impossible not to concede. We can argue about barriers in womens' way but in the modern era I can't think of a single barrier in womens' way. There are quotas encouraging mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 05:19 PM
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The boss babes who "don't need no man" and want to focus on their careers would never admit to themselves that deep down they want that traditionally feminine life. That's what I mean. It's women's dream in their hearts but society will lie to them and they'll lie to themselves that there is less value in being a stay at home mother. ​ why do you think men are having such a hard time finding submissive traditional stay at home wives if it’s the dream of most women to fulfill those men’s desires?…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 01:38 PM
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Is this a controversial assertion? A lot of career women climb the corporate ladder because they have to, not because they want to. If they had the option to be financially stable and not do that, many would take that option. We can argue the percentage, idk, but lots of women, especially once they decide they want children, don't want to toil away working non-stop for a corporation
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 03:31 AM
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When have I implied that men don't need to earn their lot in life? My entire point in the original post if you read it is that men are dissuaded by not hearing a word of encouragement about their value they could bring to the world and instead they hear constant negativity and retreat from life, which is a tragedy. Maybe compassion is a foreign concept to sociopaths on the internet, idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 03:26 AM
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Alright, I'll describe what a protector and provider looks like, though it should be obvious. It looks like a man who is of a high status and social standing in the community who earns enough to provide for his family and is physically able to protect, which no matter how feminist one is, that is fundamentally attractive to women. If the gf/wife wants to work, full time or part time, she can but doesn't have to, and can pursue her hobbies and interests while her man is off fulfilling his masculi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 03:19 AM
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You're not meant to desire it. That's the point. Desire is not a virtue in itself. Too many men are a slave to their desires and impulsive pleasure, and the reason rites of passage existed in so many cultures isn't because they were dumb or archaic cultures, they arose out of a fundamental need.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 03:08 AM
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What part specifically? The first sentence?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 03:04 AM
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Attacking and making snide comments to undermine a person who is happy (in this case the stay at home gf/wives) is inherently horrible. People who are content in life, supposedly the career women, shouldn't feel the need to post their envious derision on tiktok if their lives are so great, should they? That doesn't logically follow. Is this really a point of contention we can't agree on? Like, really?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 03:02 AM
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Much more succinct way of putting it. This is in essence what I'm arguing, and because of my phrasing, everyone is ignoring the core argument and melting down
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 02:58 AM
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Women don't go for guys of a lower socioeconomic status. Your point about earning more not mattering is disproven by women's hypergamy expressed in mating choices. Even rich women want a man at their level or higher. I've yet to see a successful relationship where the female is the sole breadwinner or even earns more Hence, women do still want a provider. And men are more capable of dealing with danger than women. That's just a biological reality. We evolved to hunt. Even down to things like rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 02:55 AM
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Telling someone that their beliefs are nonsense and that they're signalling is inherently insulting. By definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 02:48 AM
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You're projecting all of that onto what I am saying. That's on you, not on me. And I've seen some posts from this sub but I don't frequent it and it's my first post here so it kinda is my first day. I try to avoid Reddit as it's a cesspit, and if you think Reddit is a representative sample of how men and women act and think in the real world, with all due respect, you need to take a break and go outside more.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 02:46 AM
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Watch this video and tell me the "opposing views" are not horrible. There's no excuse for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 02:41 AM
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I don't know why there's this immediate jump to assuming that men who are protectors and providers are abusers of power-in waiting to be viewed with suspicion. It isn't power motivating them, it's love and a sense of duty.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 02:32 AM
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When did I say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 02:25 AM
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Judging by our respective comment karmas, more than you I would wager.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 02:22 AM
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Being a protector and provider does not necessitate a woman being owned or helpless. It is traditionally masculine, not misogynist. It does not mean a woman cannot do things for herself. I'm fucking astounded that I have to clarify this, but that's the modern world I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 02:20 AM
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Being a protector and provider isn't misogynist and doesn't necessitate women being owned or helpless. I cannot believe I have to spell this out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 02:17 AM
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"I didn't insult you, I just insulted you!"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 02:13 AM
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It isn't that they disagreed with me, it's the implication that being a protector and provider necessitates the woman being "helpless", and by extension, that this example of traditional masculinity is inherently misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 02:05 AM
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That doesn't excuse the toxic femininity of women who lash out at stay at home wives or gfs who are happy. Whataboutism and moving the goalposts does not refute what my point was. Just because the angry commenters were women does not excuse their bad behaviour. If they were men doing that we would be decrying their misogyny right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 02:02 AM
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Easy way to not engage in good faith with any of my arguments. Just resort to ad hominems
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 01:57 AM
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I don't know how any sane person can look at what I've wrote and come away with that summation, but then again this is reddit so it's not exactly a good sampling of well-adjusted people now that I think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 01:12 AM
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It isn't "so many women". Those TikToks I mentioned have comment sections of thousands of women talking shit to the stay at home wives. Many women have convinced themselves that being a career woman is a great thing and even if it did make them unhappy, would never admit as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 01:09 AM
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It depends on the metric of floundering. There's no shortage of career women who are resentful and make TikToks asking where all the good men have gone. Or women who spend their 20s partying, and now in their early 30s as a single mother are struggling on the dating market. There are TikToks of happy stay at home wives and stay at home girlfriends even-and the comment sections are FILLED with angry, bitter women who are clearly envious of their lives. Their ability to embrace their femininity in…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 12:13 AM
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It's not about feeling safer with "big bad cops". If you and a male friend, stranger, lover, whatever, were walking down the street at night and got attacked, you would expect the man to, well, be a man and fend off the attacker. Or if he snatched your purse, you'd want him to run after it. Biologically, women are attracted to masculinity. It's the same principle. You seem to have absorbed the ideology that we live in a tyrannical patriarchy where everything is corrupt. #ACAB. That's a very dist…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 11:54 PM
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First comment here that's talking sense. I'm in awe of how nonsensical the replies here are. Should've expected it from redditors, but still
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 11:42 PM
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Wow, I know I have stuff to work on, but y'all need to go outside, Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 11:39 PM
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I thought you said that "disagreeable men" were going to stop trying and play video games. So which is it? If they are high earners who worked there way to the top they aren't just giving up and playing video games (although good on them if they are). I was adding nuance by specifying disagreeable men low in conscientiousness. You seem to have skimmed over my clarification. ​ We've never been short on "masculinity" in fact we are better off without the kind your talking about. If men want to use…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 11:38 PM
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What do you mean the competition is fundamentally flawed? And what do you mean "including the above"? I'm not sure what you're getting at with your point. Reproductive success is still very much tied to societal contribution. Men who don't contribute to society aren't having their genes propagate into the future. Also what exactly is basically nonsense. I would appreciate if you could elaborate since frankly your comment is coming off as gibberish to me. Perhaps it's because it's near midnight w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 11:23 PM
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What "rites of passage" do you want there to be? It's a tricky question to answer, as traditionally, rites of passage occur in communities overseen by some sort of village elder/tribal leader, and are tailored to the specifics of the community. Unfortunately in a world where no one knows their neighbours and we're all siloed in our own echo chambers, any attempt is going to be a shallow approximation. It would encompass the stages of separation (from the familiar, the tribe), transition (between…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 11:20 PM
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? what?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 11:01 PM
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That's not quite accurate. Everyone, especially in the corporate world, has to "deal with disagreeable men", because disagreeable men are the types who climb the dominance hierarchies and compete the hardest. They're the men who demand the promotion at work. To clarify, when I say "Disagreeable" I'm referring to the statistically derived Big Five personality model. I'm not using it colloquially. If a man is high in disagreeableness and low in conscientiousness he'll be more likely to tread water…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 10:59 PM
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You're misconstruing my point. We are all products of our environment and will behave accordingly. It doesn't matter how hyperindividualist you think the world is. As the old adage goes: "it take a village to raise a child, and the child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth". What you fail to realise is that it doesn't take much to set these young men on the right path. A word of encouragement perhaps. At least a morsel. Most men never hear one in their lives, …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 10:31 PM
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🤓🤓🤓
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:39 PM
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It sounds like you have a problem with role models in general. Why have role models? Well, because most people need a path of some kind to guide them. Most humans aren't totally original and creative enough otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:38 AM
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I don't see what's wrong with that. There's a reason James Bond throughout history has been considered an ideal of masculinity. Men need figures to aspire towards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:52 PM
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This is possibly the reason you're less likely to see hot women in advertisements/billboards/magazines nowadays. Bill Burr made the point hilariously in one of his specials about how impressive it is that ugly women have mindfucked advertising into removing beautiful women. All the complaints about "unrealistic beauty standards" comes from women. You don't hear men complaining about all the unrealistic body standards pushed to men in media. Sure, it emotionally affects us inside, but as a man we…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:50 PM
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I was referring to urban centres, not "the outskirts of El Paso." Believe it or not, the US has many dense urban areas
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 12:20 PM
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How do you get that impression when he remained stoic and respectful throughout the interview in the face of Piers' constant interruptions, associations with Hitler, lumping him in with a school shooting, the death of a young girl, etc? A lesser man would've lost his shit instantly at the first interruption.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:25 PM
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I watched the interview and to use crude language, in my view Tate did "destroy" Piers Morgan. Firstly the point Tate was making that you bring up was not misogyny. It was insulting, sure, but fundamentally it's a sexual preference put very crudely. "Men value youth in women, biologically, and older women have more relationship baggage by virtue of being alive longer, which is offputting to many men". Ceding ground to Piers' point would mean acknowledging that this view is misogynist and agreein…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:23 PM
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Why do we men live in feminist's heads rent-free? 😂 Why hate men when you can just be apathetic about us? Get a life, bimbos.
/r/AntiFeminists30/09/22 10:31 PM
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It's different in that such behaviour is looked down upon within male interpersonal groups, whereas female cattiness is widely accepted as a mode of behaviour
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 12:45 PM
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I'm talking about a larger scale here. Most humans do not prefer being alone and crave companionship, physical touch, intimacy, etc. As much as we all try to cope by saying otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 11:23 PM
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Respectfully, it's hard for me to empathize one bit with your friend's situation "She's not concerned with dying alone" Well therein lies the difference between women and men. If men never risked rejection we'd never get a date and we literally would die alone. Most of us get zero attention or acknowledgement that we even exist, and we have to make romance happen, at least in the beginning stages. Women cannot comprehend the amount of rejection even attractive men have to face. It can feel hopel…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 11:11 PM
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Now you know how men feel. The difference being that if we don't keep trying we'll die alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 10:21 PM
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That's all very fair and I agree with that. I'm an atheist also. I think I had some unfair assumptions from your previous comments - the example I had in my head is if one of my friends started to go down an incel rabbit hole, realised it was an issue and turned to me for help - at which point I would try to help him and clear his mind of a lot of the harmful rhetoric towards something more positive. I do agree that you can't help people who don't want to be helped. At the same time I think bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 04:41 PM
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All I'll say on your first point is that Gluttony is literally one of the 7 Deadly Sins. It's an archetypal example of a moral failing. Nonetheless I'm glad to hear you wouldn't shun a friend struggling with that. I assumed when you said the phrase "moral failing" that it was an all-encompassing ideology you applied to more situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 04:29 PM
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I find that extremely worrying. I've had overweight friends and smoker friends who've struggled and I would hate to shun them because I viewed their vices as a moral failing they should have never considered to begin with. We're all human and struggling in this life with our own shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 04:22 PM
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I'll ignore the blatant sexism here. Hope you have a good life where you have better experiences with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 04:05 PM
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Okay. I don't personally align with such a hyperindividualist view of life, but if it works for you that's fine. I do think that your belief that "most people are beyond saving" is incredibly nihilistic and antisocial, to be frank, especially given the more extreme example I gave of empathy and compassion actually working. At the end of the day, we're all human. Thanks for taking the time to discuss anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 04:04 PM
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You're conflating explanation with justification. I'm not placing a value judgement here. I'm just explaining what's happening. The one prescriptive thing I am advocating for is more empathy, for the aforementioned reason that people will act the way people treat them. If I had a friend who started to go down the incel path, I would try to help them instead of shunning them and then being surprised a few months down the line when they've been fully radicalized 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 03:58 PM
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To be fair, I don't see many men in my life outwardly complaining about loneliness, or well, anything, outside of these internet discussions. They just suffer in silence, and when they do speak in these forums, the blame gets shifted to them again. When men DO try to advocate, they'll face sentiments like "you don't see us complaining as much". Because societally, neither men nor women take kindly to male complaining, and women certainly do not. Men are expected to either have your shit together…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 03:56 PM
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Men AND women are driven by many underlying forces beyond pure rationality. How people are treated affects how they will behave. I don't see how this is possibly a point of contention.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 03:47 PM
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If you only want to support people in life who make choices you deem acceptable, that's your prerogative. Support who you want, give up on who you want. I have many friends in my life who started to go down dark paths or struggles and I did my best to help them, even if compassion is hard. I dealt with an abusive mother and spent several months as her carer before deciding I couldn't manage it. I still believe in compassion and empathy after all of this. One may argue that compassion doesn't wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 03:45 PM
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I'm not insinuating or suggesting anything. I realise you're trying to read between the lines to see what my nefarious hidden solution is, but I don't have one. This is something societally we'll have to figure out. The only thing I predict is more political polarisation
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 03:40 PM
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I think what we'll see in response is a shift in political leanings towards antifeminist, pro-nuclear family views. I've read that in some countries, the majority of male college students view feminism negatively, whereas young female students view it positively - more political polarisation seems inevitable. Men may feel that they're losing power in the household and in relationships (not power as in tyranny btw. There's a deeper discussion to be had there), widening hypergamy, etc) but realise…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 03:00 PM
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Exactly! It's as if women can't comprehend that sex for us is about a lot more than sheerly a physical thing. It's how we express intimacy, and for most men who never feel wanted, admired, desired (not hyperbole - the average man is essentially invisible. Not just blaming women for this either btw, but we could at least acknowledge this) sex is a rare way to experience that feeling women receive all the time while having a chance to give your partner that same pleasure. It's so, idk, unhuman I t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:56 PM
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You're hyperfocusing on one point I used to illustrate a larger context I was laying out. And if you're bored by these conversations why are you engaging in them in this subreddit??
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:48 PM
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Same 😂 I was prepared for it. I need to make some kind of gender discussion bingo card
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:43 PM
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Aaaand this attitude is what drives people even deeper into inceldom. Great. Compassion and empathy is in short supply these days. I'm not saying it's easy but as the adage goes: It takes a village to raise a child. A child who is shunned by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:30 PM
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Ah yes, the classic internet adage: When you can't engage in a discussion arguing the points, resort to insults 🤣 Was it me saying women can be catty that you took issue with? Genuine question. I've been around women my whole life in my family and workplaces - I've seen it. To address the last line of your post, I'm less embarrassed about the "men in crisis" stuff than I think women should feel about "female competition/petty cattiness" stuff, but that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:24 PM
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Your opening premise is a very warped way of looking back through history. Gender relations throughout history have largely been a story of good men and women working together against awful odds (infant mortality rate, poverty, war, little social mobility) while men also worked (and continue to work) the most dangerous jobs, face the highest suicide rates, make up most victims of violent crime, etc, to protect and provide for their family by having enough resources to feed everyone. To go back t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:15 PM
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The author of this is doing a great deal of harm to domestic abuse survivors who relate to Depp's experience. She 100% did not watch the entire trial. I did. Feminists do not care about men.
/r/AntiFeminists11/09/22 08:22 PM
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I'm not gonna argue the entitlement point but purely based on attractiveness, if you look at the average woman at Walmart of course you're gonna find that. Look at the average woman in the nice parts of a city where the obesity rates are low and social pressure to be in shape is high and you get a whole different picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 08:10 PM
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Joking about women is considered sexist, but women joking about men is fair game apparently. Makes no sense.
/r/PussyPassDenied19/08/22 08:47 PM
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I see a lot of women denying that looks and muscles matter when clearly that is not the case. I get that they don't want to seem vain or whatever, but let's acknowledge biological reality for a second and not delude ourselves. Looks matter. Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying to you. The gym and proper nutrition are probably the best things you can do for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 10:00 PM
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