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I could see this. They probably have a small group of women or more likely a few here and there or primarily male friends. Although depending partially on age and primarily on intention, you can’t always even expect guy friends to tell it to you straight if they have a crush on you and see you as something besides a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:32 AM
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Had an old coworker like this. He’d insult you in front of other coworkers (in their 20s/30s but ALSO more senior coworkers/managers in their 50s/60s) and then later claim it was the truth, you were too soft, it’s because you were friends/he wouldn’t tell you the truth if he didn’t like you like that, etc. I’ve been in male-dominated environments since I started college nearly a decade and a half ago, but I have NEVER been spoken to like that by a boy/man/whatever, much less in a work environmen…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:26 AM
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I feel this only applies to the initial stages, not necessarily in maintaining a relationship. Then again, I’ve only ever been in 1 that lasted more than 5 months, and I’m 30. 🤷‍♀️
/r/seduction13/04/24 08:30 PM
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Yes not a potential sex pest and perceived as not a threat. She doesn’t have to worry about fending off any potentially unwanted attention, so she’s more likely to be more open and more laid back. Meaning she’s less on her guard and more open to getting to know you because she likes that she feels comfortable around you.
/r/seduction13/04/24 08:28 PM
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No effort into dating or no effort into your life and bettering yourself as a human being?
/r/seduction13/04/24 08:26 PM
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Yes. This exactly. Don’t be needy and don’t smother a woman whose attention you are vying for.
/r/seduction13/04/24 08:26 PM
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I think OP is referring to putting yourself out there and making your existence known but not smothering one woman with your constant presence/availability hoping that she will not only notice you but also like you.
/r/seduction13/04/24 08:26 PM
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He’s also someone I’d happily be a wingwoman for or introduce to any single female friends when he’s ready to date again.
/r/seduction13/04/24 08:23 PM
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As a woman, yes to all of this. Your response should be much higher up.
/r/seduction13/04/24 08:21 PM
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This guy gets it. Women don’t want to have to ALWAYS chase. That gets tiring. Some people argue that it’s because the act of pursuit is a more masculine thing idk. But I’d also argue that we don’t want something easy and guaranteed in the beginning. One of my [male] coworkers argues that we’re kind of like cats. Let your interest be known then give us some space, and let us get curious to come check you out for ourselves. Idk he’s 23. So what does he know, right?
/r/seduction13/04/24 08:15 PM
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This. Feels like a lot of men are looking for an easy lay, so the initial attention isn’t always taken seriously because sometimes there is a lot of attention, and most is only surface level. So if you’re competing for her attention with 5 other men and not as frequently in her DMs, maybe she’ll start to wonder why she doesn’t seem to have the same power over you that she has over them. Maybe that makes her curious, or maybe that makes her realize you’re more confident in yourself and do not NEE…
/r/seduction13/04/24 08:07 PM
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Been there. It was a weird mix of dating guys hoping to be my first and guys afraid to even touch me because they didn’t want to “corrupt” me. Mostly, my experience was men thinking they would be my first and getting impatient after a certain amount of time (few months) and inevitably ending things. TOTALLY not normal and I’m probably going to get a lot of shit for it, but the guy I decided to give my v-card to was a guy twice my age that I’d met on a sugar daddy site and dated for 7+ months who…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 12:47 AM

Don’t take this the wrong way, but it might be what you’re attracting and settling for. It sounds like your home life might have not been the healthiest growing up. There are some theories in psychological literature that we unconsciously seek out what is “familiar”—not “healthy”. Turns out, I have unconsciously sought out men who were emotionally avoidant (my mother was very emotionally erratic at times) and/or workaholics (like my father when I was in middle/high school). I do not know firstha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 09:14 PM

And a pain in the ass. I ignored my intuition that kept telling me something was off or that he was actually fairly pushy despite claiming that certain things were for my benefit. Now that I have something that he wants, he’s trying to slide back into my life and claim we’re friends (because it benefits him now). And to think I used to call this guy a friend, jeez. Now he just makes me sick. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:34 PM

I don’t know that it’s just boundaries that are “my way or the highway” but also values. I don’t believe you should tell other people what to do with their bodies or how to live their life, but I do believe that for a relationship to work, you have to agree on some pretty fundamental things. Including what behaviors you’re okay with and which ones you are. So it’s not saying “you CAN’T do X.” It’s saying “I’m not comfortable when you do X.” Hopefully your partner values your feelings and takes t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:24 PM

I’ve met one guy who swears by it and one who’s dipping his toe into that world. The one who swears by it I would agree is somewhat emotionally immature but also manipulative. He’s fun and friendly as long as you’re playing by his rules (from my perspective as a former [platonic] friend), and he’s friends if you have something that he wants. But if you say “no”, he’s suddenly willing to go to almost any length to manipulate you and contact you via multiple digital formats. He does need a LOT of …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:15 PM
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Can confirm that this is 100% true for SOME women. My roommate has swiped right on men and put up with so much bs because they’re “cute” and 6+ ft…. Then again, her relationship with her father isn’t the healthiest, so there’s definitely more to unpack there. But yeah, for her it’s definitely about looks on dating apps—because it seems like that’s mostly how they’re designed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:05 PM
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This is why I felt so uncomfortable for so long with a guy paying for something on a date—because I was worried he’d feel entitled to my body after the few bucks he spent. Thankfully, I’ve mostly gotten over that now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 09:51 PM
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Pretty sure she’s viewing it through the ATL lens. With CoL what it is in that area, she’s not wrong that a man making $50k might be hard pressed to try to date a woman who’s hoping to have her dates paid for (especially depending on how much he’s money he’s sinking into housing every month). If they’re willing to split the price, then great. But if someone is trying to pay for 2 people on that salary in a higher cost of living area, dates would be limited to cheaper/free activities or fewer goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 09:47 PM
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That’s what I’m saying. Without new (younger) people feeding into the system, and with older people cycling out…. It’s crazy to think some people want to actually fix the world we currently live in so that younger couples can feel good about bringing a child into this world. And, you know, hopefully raise good, contributing members of society so that older people can actually retire instead of working until the day they die simply because they can’t afford to retire.
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 07:13 PM
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Does “better sexual choices” mean not having sex with your spouse because contraceptives aren’t 100% and you cannot financially afford another child if you already have several? There are people who cannot or choose not to raise another child. Sure, there are also people who do dumb shit. But how there are men who refuse to get vasectomies and expect their wives to stay on birth control years after they’re no longer planning on having more kids is beyond me. In light of the religion thing though…
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 07:09 PM
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I’ve heard a few commentators suggest we rebrand to “pro birth”….
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 06:59 PM
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Social security is already, um, yeah… not in a great place. Who’s going to prop up our consumerist economy?? But real talk though, how would our economy not collapse if we didn’t frequently have new inductees?
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 06:56 PM
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Just a reminder that “better sexual choices” like contraception in the form of bc pills and condoms aren’t 100% soooo…. “Europe”. That’s an entire continent made up of multiple countries. Pretty sure Poland is fairly strict. Vaguely remember some protests there a couple of years back. A lot of countries over there have restrictions on how late it can be. But it’s only a blanket ban in a few places. Article 1 with Graphs but no time limit details Article 2 with details on window of time it’s lega…
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 06:54 PM
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Thanks! My views/awareness of dating and its related issues are derived from my own experiences and the experiences of my friends. Even though most of my friends are guys—and engineers—they’re still the type of people who aren’t afraid to talk to a girl in class and are okay with being friends with women. Obviously there are people [of both genders on this sub] who don’t know how to be friends with/view people of the opposite sex as human and deserving of respect and compassion. I think my roomm…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 04:18 PM
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I ended up essentially on a “why are men this way” rabbit hole a year or so ago and stumbled across this video. She makes some good points about how society is currently treating men and why there’s such an identity and mental health crisis when you essentially tell half your population that you don’t need them and that in order to be someone in society, they have to be “someone” to a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:19 AM
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Similarly, they probably also didn’t know that people like you actually existed if they rarely leave their echo chamber.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 03:42 PM
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I disagree—strongly. If you and your partner don’t communicate when there’s an issue, one of you might not even know there’s an issue. And if you don’t know there’s an issue, it’s kind of hard to fix it, wouldn’t you agree? Plus, communication is how you can set boundaries and let your partner know the consequences of crossing those boundaries. Previously, I’d just cut and run if I saw something I didn’t like in a partner/relationship. Obviously, that’s not sustainable if you’re looking for some…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 02:00 PM
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If I want something, i.e. romance, and that’s the only way to really get my attention, does that not force stereotypically “unromantic” potential partners to decide to either attempt something that isn’t natural to them or else decide it isn’t worth the effort and they should continue looking for a partner who’s a better match? Hence, some people—typically assumed to be women as a whole—want the romance, and it’s on the parter to either pony up and deliver or save their time and look for someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 11:42 AM
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Yeah, but in this case, these were some pretty deep-rooted issues possibly related to his home environment before he was even 10. His father is a difficult man, and his mother died when he was young.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 03:41 PM
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Briefly had a thing with a guy who had body dysmorphia. Personally, I thought he looked like an Adonis. Objectively attractive (face and body, clear skin), took care of himself, worked out, and was quite interesting and intelligent. I just wish he could have seen himself the way other people saw him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 08:44 PM
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Happy cake day!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 02:09 AM
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Or read this article? https://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2022/01/27/jackson-mississippi-2021-homicides-highest-per-capita-murder-rate/9230045002/ You’re thinking like middle-size town Mississippi.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 08:16 PM
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I used to be told I was socially awkward much more frequently than I am now, even though I’m still self-conscious about how I come across in social interactions. So maybe it helped a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:11 PM
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Yep. I stopped dating unrealized potential as I got older. I want someone intrinsically motivated to be the best version of himself and who will encourage me the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 03:10 PM
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Might not help your case but maybe this post will help someone here
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:43 AM
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Exactly. That’s why I watched a lot of Charisma on Command and other YouTube channels to work on how I come across in social interactions. How to talk to people and make them feel seen is a useful skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:25 AM
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Really? I’ve always had a thing for reserved, intellectual, and kind. I often forget that not everyone does, but yeah, I guess maybe that tracks about the majority? But in my small circle of female friends who have that kind of personality, most of the ones in a relationship are in a relationship with someone similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:23 AM
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Yes, there are core personality traits that I definitely consider unacceptable in my relationships. Narcissism is one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:19 AM
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Agreed!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:56 AM
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We’re afraid of being alone with our thoughts and learning to sit with ourselves, so we choose poor company over no company. We’re somehow convinced that something bad is better than nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 09:19 PM
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Yes, society has gotten shittier. We stare at screens instead of forming connections, desperate for attention and validation, never content to live in the moment, lest we miss the chance to capture it on film for everyone else to see. Kinda feels like a lot of us are unthinking consumers, grasping for approval from others because it’s an intangible need we haven’t learned to meet ourselves. I think what your friends are seeing is a reflection of that. Some people are just forgetting how to peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 11:56 PM
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Did I? I might have written that 3+ months ago, but you seem more familiar with my posts right now than I am and have a lot of free time, so maybe I can trust you to refresh my memory. He isn’t really into women much older than him, so idk because he doesn’t explore that avenue. He’s attentive—a little too much sometimes—tall, very attractive, and idk about hungness but I do know several of his one-night-stands have tried to make it a fwb thing, so he can’t be that bad in bed, right? Unless they…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:03 PM
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Just seeing how wide of a range of experiences you were drawing off of when talking about every woman you know with mostly male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 09:35 PM
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I think we need to stop for a minute and define “average” because communities like this can draw a group of people that isn’t a reflective sample of the overall population. What is average? Like height/weight, income, assets/debt/liabilities? For women, are we talking WITH makeup and other maintenance like hair extensions or are we grading what they look like without all that? Because WITH a lot of the upkeep and maintenance, I think the average rating out of 10 would be skewed higher. Is fashio…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 07:57 PM
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If you date one person who helps out with school debt for a couple of years, at what point does it become a business? And based on what you’re saying about sugaring and nothing sexual being an acceptable strategy… have you been in a sugar relationship before?? You should explore some of the emotional labor that’s required in some arrangements as well. Also, are we talking ACTUAL dating coaches or PUAs? Because I know there are several dating coaches aimed at helping women. Ever watched any of Ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 07:46 PM
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We force college students to read that book by Mark Manson about not giving a fuck lol. I would like to say, “we create an environment in which people don’t feel judged,” but that’ll never happen. One problem I think is that too many friend groups are segregated by gender—at least where I grew up—so people literally never learned how to interact with the opposite gender. And then you have PUAs and other manipulators teaching men and women how to feed their bruised ego instead of how to actually …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 07:37 PM
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Ego and attention because they’re lonely. It’s cheaper than therapy, and sometimes there’s free food involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 07:16 PM
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Actually, my friend prefers dating women his age (early 30s) who make 6 figures and are willing to go at least halfsies on dates. Objectively, he’s fit, attractive and intelligent, so he can be choosy. He has had some wealthier [divorced] cougars approach him though. My exact hypothetical male counterpart might have it a bit easier than you’re expecting though. But the average man might have more trouble than the average woman, based on studies that point to women trying to bat above their weigh…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 07:02 PM
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Hmm let me know when you find a more tomboyish or nerdy friend. They’re usually pretty chill because they already know they don’t fit in and have given up trying to impress people. Some of them at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:49 PM
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I feel this. Some men my age are just looking for a partner/wife/surrogate mother to fill a hole, and they’re willing to grab the closest that’s “good enough” before it’s “too late”. Made the mistake of dating a couple like that. It wasn’t about me. It was about them having a partner. Not them having me specifically as a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:28 PM
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I think for some women, they’ve been a bit too direct in the past and it’s been a turnoff for the guy, so they’re less direct now. Also could be because some women still don’t feel comfortable saying exactly what it is they want. (Like saying you want a relationship over casual sex, in case someone you know and are worried might judge you sees your profile.) Some women want to feel pursued, while others don’t even want to be approached (in general). Some people—cough, cough, my ex—expect the per…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:24 PM
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Wow, you really dug. And just because I have an easier time, that doesn’t mean all of my female friends do. I don’t assume that everyone is like me. Just like I don’t assume all of my guy friends have 450+ matches just because I’ve met one of them who does.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 05:46 PM
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Jesus, do you live in LA or something?? Or do your male friends just prefer higher maintenance women in their circles?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 02:19 PM
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Agreed. But by being friends with women, you learn a lot more about how to approach women, how to better understand them, get advice about a woman you like, etc. Valuable insight that your male friend without any female friends himself probably can’t offer you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 02:18 PM
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Interesting theory. Is every woman you know like that pretty feminine-presenting or are some of them more tomboys or nerds? Do they wear makeup and put time into their appearance beyond basic hygiene?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:34 PM
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Ouch, way to assume there. You know what they say about assuming…. Only 1/11 of people in my college major were women. At my last job, 2/3 of my coworkers were men in their 50s or 60s, and my boss joked that we were all grumpy old men, me included. Men were always more plentiful and therefore more convenient to make friends with in both college and since then. I was more outgoing in high school/college, and some girls weren’t okay with that. I’ve had guy friends start dating someone who’s insecu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:12 PM
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Agreed. But it’s also a question of what value that person’s presence has in your life. If they aren’t worth much to you as just a friend/you think you have too many friends, then don’t waste their time or yours. If they’re someone you really enjoy being around, why would you refuse to be with them just because you can’t fuck them? Personally, I’m looking for someone who appreciates me in a non-sexual sense. And if I think we could be a good match once I get to know them better, I’m open to more…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:33 PM
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Agreed. But both people have to be very confident in themselves and in the relationship, and there has to be a lot of trust for it to really work. Also similar expectations. If a man expects a partner to help him get off and “can’t” live without that, it isn’t going to work. Then again, it’s probably a question of objectively good quality relationships and also objectively mature adults. My personal opinion is that most people in relationships have no business being in relationships because of e…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:04 PM
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Yes, I believe that’s what happens when you stop treating women for “hysteria”. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:51 PM
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Sure, but I think the sane ones are often overshadowed by the louder extremes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:49 PM
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Distance can 100% be an issue if both/all involved aren’t on the same page with what they need vs want vs can give, in addition to whatever else is allowed, in an LDR.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:46 PM
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Yes, because they weren’t inundated with shit like this on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:43 PM
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“If she has some foreplay, the sex won’t be terrible.” Riiiiiight. I’ve had bad foreplay. And bad sex. Both of which I could have happily lived without. My understanding is that women need more emotional intimacy on average than men do and men need more physical intimacy to really enjoy it. That’s a generalization but still. If I’m with someone I’m not particularly attracted to and there is foreplay or sex involved, that doesn’t mean I’ll enjoy it. I definitely didn’t last time. Personally, I ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:42 PM
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Most of my friends are guys, but I often have this issue when meeting new people—typically men. They often disappear when I casually mention my bf. My guy friends have explained that it could be out of respect for my bf, but I think it’s because some of them don’t know how to just be friends with someone they’re attracted to. I’ve done it—several times for a couple of years. You won’t die just because you’re around someone you want to stick your dick in but can’t. Everyone I go on more than a co…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:39 PM
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Now it’s there
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 07:24 PM
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Dude, same. My parents initiated the divorce process nearly a DECADE ago, dragged it out 1.5 years because of lack of consistent money to pay lawyers, and now are BACK in court arguing over the amount they both agreed on in 2014. They’ve had money problems most of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:16 PM
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I guess that’s why that was such a big deal for my ex, whose parents are still together, since mine are divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:13 PM
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Plenty of guys who are very attractive haven’t had to develop much of a personality over time. Their appearance IS their personality. Too bad that fades over time. Overall, I prefer down-to-earth. Plus, I’ve met very insecure male models (who were friends of friends), and I’m not looking for a guy who needs everyone else’s approval because he’s so used to getting it for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:24 PM
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Are you attracted to obese, not-conventionally-attractive women or do you know someone who is?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 12:09 AM
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Bold of you to assume some of them haven’t tried that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 11:57 PM
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My roommate is early 20s, recently graduated, never had a boyfriend/kissed anyone/etc. and this year has had 2 eye-opening experiences that all men who compliment you aren’t pushy creeps. Most of my friends and coworkers are guys—and most of my classmates were guys as well—so I like to THINK I can tell when a guy likes me and is being nice/wants to get to know me vs. is going to be pushy/creepy/etc. But I didn’t realize until more recently that some people’s default was to go on the defensive wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 11:46 PM
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Are any of these Danish shows on [Danish] Netflix?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 11:09 PM
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I think maybe it’s because some of them start out as friends with the person—or they’re at least in the same friend group and interact—before they go on a first date with them. Also, I think they tend to really care a lot about one person at a time and get stuck on them. Instead of having to date around and compare them to decide that that’s the person they want to date out of all of their options. I could be completely wrong though since I’m American and only have a couple of European friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 11:06 PM
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Wasn’t allowed to watch MTV growing up, so I had no idea what American dating was like until I started. 😶
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 10:46 PM
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Not all women are that way by choice. Femcels are totally a thing, and there’s even a community supporting each other’s “glow up” journey and sharing advice to catch the eye of a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 10:31 PM
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My mom is Gen X born in the 60s, and she would talk about going on dates with multiple guys in the same week until someone asked her to “go steady” with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 09:57 PM

If only my mother understood whose choice it ultimately is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 01:25 AM

Agreed. For me, it’s the mental. I have to fall for the whole person—not just physical appearance. I need to know that I can trust the person to respect the boundaries I set before I feel comfortable opening up more sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 01:09 AM
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This exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:06 PM
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Actually, it was my choice. And actually, I liked to watch the expression on a guy’s face when I told him I was a virgin and then sat there just staring at him until he realized it wasn’t a joke.... There are some oddballs like me out there though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:04 PM
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He’s definitely been really great for me overall and been my most patient and most understanding partner to date. I got really, really lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 01:08 PM
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Glad you could relate! I’m still pretty new to it, and I’ve definitely had performance anxiety as a result. I was so nervous that I couldn’t quite get there one time, and my partner was trying so hard to help me, and then I just felt even worse, and it sort of spiraled. Thankfully, he was really nice about it. He told me that he doesn’t always finish either—which I now understand to happen sometimes—so we focus more on what feels good and getting more comfortable with each other or trying things…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 11:19 AM
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This exactly. Until I feel comfortable around the guy and am convinced he isn’t going to try to pressure me or force me into something I’m not ready for, I tend to hide and/or suppress my sexuality to an extent. I’m also NOT COMFORTABLE—in case anyone reading this missed that part—and as a result am LESS SEXUAL. Not sure if the issue here is that some males think women don’t actually know what they want or if they simply reject it because it doesn’t fit their narrative and threatens their view o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 01:20 AM
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I’m not dating any of the more conventionally attractive ones anymore either. What’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 12:04 PM
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I leave my profile visible for a week or two at a time then stop using it for like 4 months once I’ve moved any conversations to ig or text.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 03:05 AM
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Actually, I’ve dated several guys that I didn’t initially experience any physical attraction to at first. But after I got to know them, I experienced sexual attraction. It does happen. I promise. For me the sexual attraction takes a while and typically comes after I get to know someone and feel comfortable around them. I can point out guys that are objectively attractive and not be sexually attracted to them. Just because someone has a nice face and/or body, that doesn’t mean I want to touch the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 02:54 AM
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It really depends on knowing your angles, so I’d say “how attractive you are in photos.” (I’ve met some guys with great pictures who didn’t look quite as good as their pictures when I met them and others who looked way better.) Either way, I don’t think it helps you figure out just HOW attractive you are necessarily. I read bios, so I’m more likely to swipe on average+ as long as you’re nerdy, into science or philosophy, or manage to come across as extremely well-read and/or a deep thinker just …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 02:49 AM
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Hard to find people with a similar mindset who are genuinely encouraging and actually want to build/accomplish things in life besides marriage, kids, and retirement. I want to talk to people who are willing to have deep/philosophical conversations and be vulnerable. I want to see people talk about a topic they’re interested in and really see that spark. Whether as friendship or a romantic relationship, I’ve only found a few people like I’m looking for so far, and it’s taken a lot of wading throu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 07:56 PM
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Yep, as someone who was raised Southern Baptist, I can definitely relate. My [divorced] mother likes to point out that she has chosen NOT to have sex with her current boyfriend or the previous one since they aren’t married.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 03:11 AM
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Sorry, let me rephrase that. Wouldn’t you agree that it’s important for both people to know their own sex drive and be up front about it (and their expectations)? Nope, demisexuality and asexuality are totally a thing. There are different kinds of attraction. As a demi, I don’t really experience primary attraction, just secondary. I do experience aesthetic attraction sometimes. I can see an attractive guy on the street and find him nice to look at like a beautiful painting, but that doesn’t mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 05:12 AM
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I mean, you expect women to have sex with you after a month because... they’re horny, maybe they like you, and you bought them dinner? The money wasn’t dependent upon sex since it came in the 7 months preceding the sex. Whether I spend one day with him a month or a week, the money is still the same. It’s an allowance. You know, like some well-to-do men still give their stay-at-home debutante wives here in the South. Why not 2 or 5 years? Sure, if that’s what it takes for them to feel comfortable…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:32 AM
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Yes, not everything is up for negotiation, but I have a difficult time imagining a relationship with absolutely no compromises at all if the other person has a spine and opinions of their own.... Then again, I’ve never met a couple that seems so cut from the same cloth as couples I’ve only heard about, so maybe they do exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 03:57 AM
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Yes, everyone has their own timeline, typically based on their own previous experiences or friends’ experiences that they’ve heard about. Last I checked, relationships are about compromises. I already had some other firsts with him (which he knew) because I was trying to compromise in other ways since I wasn’t ready for PIV yet. Do your relationships line up perfectly or is there ever any sort of compromise?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 03:51 AM
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Considering we didn’t have sex until after I had a job again and could pay my bills without his help... sure. Call me whatever makes you feel better about your own life. Why would anyone wait for 3 or more months for sex? Because they’re interested in the other person for more than just sex? Because they enjoy spending time with them? Because they’re willing to be patient? Because they care about the other person being comfortable first? Because they think the other person is interesting enough …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 03:48 AM
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What do you mean? I know my pace doesn’t fit most people’s. I’m under no illusion it does. I wasn’t holier-than-thou waiting for sex. I wasn’t comfortable. The only reason I was thinking he could wait longer was because he “loved” me (red flag that early, yes I know) and excitedly introduced me to his friends and his best friend was telling me how she’d never heard him talk about anyone like this in a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 03:43 AM
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Oh, I meant one-and-doners in that they get one dinner and that’s it. Nothing more physically and not a second date. I definitely made out with people in college because I was bored or was excited that someone whom I found attractive also found me attractive, but I didn’t really feel much aside from the excitement if I didn’t have any sort of emotional bond with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 03:39 AM
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Actually, my sugar daddy patiently waited 7 months for my v card and was very gentle and supportive the whole time. Oddly enough, this man was helping me out financially AND waited longer than anyone else I’d previously dated. He’d had a previous sugar baby who had experienced sexual trauma, knew I was a hesitant virgin going into it, and knew my whole history by our second time together and still chose to keep me around. He’s a unicorn for sure, and that’s why I appreciate him so much. So yeah,…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 03:35 AM
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Oh. Ohhhhhh yeah. Wish I could change this one. I grew up SUPER sheltered (unable to watch PG-13 when I was 16+) and thought that the guys I dated would have my best interest in mind. I grew up being told that I shouldn’t let a guy “touch [me] inappropriately” when we were dating. When I met my first boyfriend, I honestly believed it went something like this... Holding hands -> kissing -> getting engaged -> getting married -> everything else I shit you not. These were the expectations I brought …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 03:20 AM
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Yeah, idk. In my mind, if I’m thinking the relationship has long term potential, I don’t understand giving up on it after just a few months if the other person really likes you and is definitely hoping to have sex with you for many years to come once they’re comfortable. It’s not like I’m saying no sex ever. And it’s not like I’m saying I’m not going to try to compromise and still make you happy in other ways now. “Not yet” doesn’t mean “not ever”. Then again, I’ve never dated as a guy, so maybe…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 03:01 AM
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Yeah, dude! I’m kind of an odd one though. I’ve had some trauma and am also demisexual, so the best way for a guy to make me want him is to allow me to be in non-sexual situations around him and feel comfortable. I feel like some people are really chill on dates, and some people put so much pressure on them that I can just feel myself being crushed under the weight of their sexual expectations lol. A lot of those are one-and-doners that after the first dinner or coffee, things do not progress. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 02:48 AM
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Exactly. Isn’t someone cares about my comfort and who’s willing to wait of more value to me? Maybe not everyone can agree on the definition of a HVM, but like, dude. I’ve seen dick before. I’ve been offered dick before. Yours. isn’t. special. What IS special is someone who genuinely cares about me and is willing to be patient. It’s hard to find, so I place a much higher value on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 02:28 AM
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Exactly. 2-month Tinderboi was flabbergasted that I’d managed to get to my mid-20s and not have had sex yet despite having had several previous boyfriends (all 5 months or less and there was some serious sexual trauma with the first one). I understand having a general timeline and general frame of reference, but not everyone fits into that, which is something that some people fail to take into account.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 02:21 AM
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Agreed. You can usually tell from a guy’s behavior. A lot of posturing, talking about themselves a lot and trying to humble brag, not really asking you any questions about yourself. And yeah, sometimes the Snapchat thing. I’ve had a couple of people think I’m dumb enough to fall for “you seem like a good convo. What’s your snap?” and “What’s your snap so I can message you?” Ummm you mean what’s my number so you can message me? I’m personally not a fan of unsolicited dick pics and have received a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 02:12 AM
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What would you consider proof of interest? Introducing you to her friends and family? Fooling around with you in other ways? Spending time giving you a massage to show she appreciates you? Paying for the two of you sometimes when you go out to dinner or a movie? Introducing you to any guy friends she has so you know she’s serious and so they know she’s serious? I’m just trying to figure out if there are other ways that most guys find acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 01:58 AM
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As someone in her late 20s who has already seen classmates divorced, who knows very codependent people in unhappy marriages, and who has watched her parents’ failing marriage and fucked up court battles that have been dragged out over the past 9 years (and still continuing), yes, I think it is a good thing. With divorce rates as high as they are and too many people in unhappy relationships, I think focusing on ourselves and on growing to be an equally contributing partner in a relationship is im…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 01:40 AM
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I mean, if someone has been hooking up before, that’s one thing. But I feel like expecting a virgin to give it up within 3 months isn’t necessarily realistic if they’ve had other opportunities in the past and decided not to take them....
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 01:19 AM
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Did you not do other things during the 8 months or was month 8 when you first realized how big it was?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 12:07 AM
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Does sexual compatibility mean how well the parts fit together, what each person is into, or if there’s any chemistry?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 12:06 AM
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Oh definitely! He made me feel like I was never quite enough or able to give enough. Whereas my sugar daddy that I started seeing during the pandemic was much more patient about sex, ironically enough. I did not realize that anyone could be so gentle or patient or make me feel so appreciated before I met him. I have an engineering job now and no longer need his help paying bills, but I still see him because I enjoy our time together and he treats me like I’m valuable for more than just my body.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 12:04 AM
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Ahhh sorry about that! I see that now. My mistake. What is it about high value men that makes you think they wouldn’t wait? How would you define an HVM? Is part of that HV not how they treat their partner? If they could easily get sex, does it have much as much value? If I can easily get a date or attention at a bar, it doesn’t have as much value in and of itself to me. It’s about the other person. If I have to put in more work and be patient for the right person, then so be it. I definitely agr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 11:44 PM
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I know, and that’s why I commented on your comment and not on the main sub. I’m trying to better understand how most guys feel about these things. Because I had several guys who claimed they were okay with taking things slow since I was a virgin, but after 3 months or so, they were definitely getting pushier. I mean, that’s not my case anymore, but I’m still trying to better understand for the future. If someone has a low N count or no N count, do you think most guys would be willing to wait 3+ …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 09:04 PM
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Honest question: how long does it take you to decide if you see a future with the person and if they’re worth putting in work for? So 3 months or more isn’t worth it for anyone at all or isn’t worth it for anyone you’ve met yet? My last ex (late 20s) was looking for something serious—supposedly—but got tired of waiting for PIV sex, despite us otherwise being intimate and not putting a label on the relationship. He knew going into it that I was a virgin and didn’t have a specific timeline besides…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 08:41 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 08:08 PM
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I would also appreciate an answer to this question. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 07:15 PM
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He will. He will also know this is the man I lost my virginity to when I was 27. Don’t worry, he’ll know as much or as little about my sexual history as he’d like. Everyone I dated after high school knew about my high school sexual assault, resulting sexual hang ups and hesitance, and the fact that I was a virgin. I typically told them by the end of the third date. Well, obviously whomever I date next will be told I’ve only had sex with one person before. I don’t want to waste their time, but mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 03:40 AM
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Idk. I think my dad is around 5’10” or so. Now that my mom’s back in the dating pool in her mid-50’s, she’s all, “I like tall guys.” Bish, I love you, but you’re 5’5”. You’re fine. You don’t need a “tall” guy. I’m not really sure how tall the guy she’s dating is since I only met him once. But he was, like, dude height. Taller than me. That’s all I’ve got. But yeah, for her I think it’s about height being a psychologically satisfying number. Or maybe sometime to do with him still being taller tha…
/r/PussyPassDenied26/03/21 01:09 AM
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No, I mean I AM a ridiculous person. That’s part of my personality. Being in a sugar relationship means being in a mutually beneficial relationship. My first one involved business mentorship, not income. Idk if you think most sugar daddies are trust fund babies or what, but a lot of the real ones are highly skilled, money savvy, and have very good networks. It’s about positioning. If someone is willing to help me set myself up for a better future (that they already know most likely will not invo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 12:55 AM
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Are you implying I only do things that cost money? Not everything I do costs money. Well, actually I guess it does because even meeting someone at the park requires a working car and gas to get there. Or it requires the other person spending it if they want to come hang out at my place since none of my friends live within walking distance. Even that broke friend you like sharing laughs with probably has to pay money for transportation to get to you, or you have to pay money to get to them—unless…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 11:50 PM
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Agreed. Laughs and hiking are both free.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 11:13 PM
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It’s about sharing resources though. You don’t host gatherings, provide the alcohol at get-togethers, or let friends use any of your musical instruments? Honest question: do most people not share with their friends like this? My friend with kayaks has kayaks because that’s his hobby that he chose to invest in. And he shares that with his friends. Music is my hobby, so that’s what I invested in. And I share my instruments with my friends. Another friend has over 50 board games because that’s his …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 11:08 PM
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Is it on money exclusively? Interesting. I never realized that about myself. Thanks for pointing it out! You’ve clearly never had friends who owned their own kayaks though. That’s sad. You should try it sometime! And I was saying he already owns diving equipment because it’s related to one of his side hustles. I don’t think you’re understanding because you’re allowing your preconceived notions to interfere with what I’m actually trying to express to you. I could also just be expressing it poorly…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 10:50 PM
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Yes, I am a ridiculous person. Thank you for noticing. It’s what makes me more memorable to some people. Yes, how astute of you to read my comment history and notice that. “Hobby.” Cute. Last time I checked, food, shelter, transportation, and higher education cost money in America. But yes, you still caught me. I buy hundreds of new outfits each month just to take pictures in them and post them on Instagram so people will love me and I can feel validated enough to think life might be worth livin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 10:42 PM
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Read that again, boo boo. Diving. Like what you do in the water. With the fishies. ;) I’m confused though. What do you mean just spending money? Hiking doesn’t have to cost money depending on where you go. Kayaking is free if you know people with kayaks you can borrow and a water source that’s free. People who dive often usually have some of their own equipment. Traveling can be cheap if you use credit cards with miles/rewards points. What kind of adventures do you have?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 10:32 PM
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Lmao I am though. That’s part of why the guy I’m currently seeing likes me. Because he knows he can take me hiking, kayaking, diving, traveling, etc., and we’ll have a blast together!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 10:24 PM
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Sugar baby here. It depends on your style of sugaring. Some SBs have multiple SDs. Some are online only. A rare few manage to keep it platonic only. Unlike with any of my [vanilla] exes, we set the expectation up front. He knew what I was comfortable with. What I was willing to try once I was comfortable. What I was not willing to try. Mine has been very much like an LDR where we both lead busy lives. He’s been my most caring, understanding and most patient partner, which I never expected to fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 10:14 PM
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I feel like they can both be good in moderation, not taken to the extreme. Same with the cult-like followings some motivational speakers seem to have. If it is helping you (without damaging others too much), I say go for it. It’s about improvement and getting closer to whatever your goal is. I scroll through both types of subs plus subs like Vindicta. There’s no one-size-fits-all solution. There will always be a few people that find massive success with something while the majority sees very lit…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 09:47 PM
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I’m upfront about mine (but possibly explain it poorly), but judging based on the reactions of a couple of guys I’ve dated, I’d say it’s a real fear grounded in some truth. It actually happened to the guy I’m dating now when he married his first wife. The had sex pretty regularly before marriage, but after being married for a little while, she asked how often they needed to have sex and didn’t seem excited about it. She also later cheated on him with her female best friend sooooo idk about that …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 09:14 PM
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Unless they’re just not comfortable yet. Some of us take a while to warm up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 08:36 PM
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I’m demisexual and this is me. If I don’t have anyone in my life that turns me on or that I’m crazy about, my drive is basically non-existent
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 08:32 PM
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Self awareness is sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 08:07 PM
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Empathy, independence, self awareness, and a solid grasp on reality help. I think empathy helps to cover a lot of things, but if you need specific examples, let me know. Independence means you have your own life and your own interests. You aren’t afraid to be by yourself for a time, and you don’t expect me to constantly babysit you. Self awareness means you are hopefully aware of your vices, behavior, or negative aspects of your personality. Being able to point them out to a partner and let them…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 08:04 PM
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This. Date an adventurer. They always have interesting stories to tell and want you to be part of experiences with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 07:45 PM
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