bluepanda711 Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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1	Women can easily find relationships within online dating Right. Because I’m not going to do your homework for you and put the data in front of your face (especially when I suspect it wouldn’t move you one bit, even if i did), I don’t have it. I just made that up. Total nonsense. I see you also drew the incorrect conclusion from the irreverent personal experience line of questioning too. I’ll say it again. I have no dog in this fight. I’m perfectly content with the way things are on this side. I’m just not going to deny reality either. That’s it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/22 04:00 PM
1	Women can easily find relationships within online dating Call me lazy, but I ain’t doing your homework for you. There are plenty of sources for this data, and they are very easily found if you genuinely wish to avail yourself of the information. Granted, depending on which specific data set you get, they all vary slightly but they all paint the same overall picture. As for the other part, my personal experience is irrelevant to the argument here. Whether I fucked hundreds or haven’t been kissed yet would not change a single thing about the validity of…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/22 03:52 PM
1	Women can easily find relationships within online dating Among other sources (not to mention first hand observation), online dating data. I know many of you like to attempt to dismiss this, but I’ve yet to hear a compelling argument or reason to. In some ways it’s actually particularly reliable because of both the large numbers of people (sample size), and the fact that the data comes from the choices people are making on their own when they think nobody is looking. Despite the desperation to hand wave this particular angle away, in many ways this is …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/22 03:44 PM
1	Women can easily find relationships within online dating I didn’t claim any of what you just alluded to. Whilst not zero, I honestly think many women would be shocked if they saw first hand the divide between the average man and average woman in this space. They do not even exist within the same universe. And obviously people will still pair up regardless. Though, with such a divide it’s highly unlikely any given guy is ever going to be seen on her side as her best option. I have no personal dog in this fight, but I ain’t gonna lie about reality eithe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/22 03:37 PM
1	Women, what do you think of the fact that women still have the tendency of dating up financially? Right. Not gonna have another unproductive back and forth. Just skimmed past something, and thought it would be worth pointing out an obvious counter to it. “Men don’t handle income disparity well”. Right. Which is perfectly in line with the reality that once a woman starts earning more than her man, the statistical likelihood of divorce significantly increases. And it doesn’t matter about their prior history up to that point either. The second the woman starts earning more, the risk increases. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/22 02:17 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread Based on the little I’ve seen, I wouldn’t necessarily say “she hates men” is completely fair to say. Routine strawman arguments and set ups though? Holy shit yes. To a rather stunning degree.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/22 12:49 PM
1	Gender Equality You keep saying “insults” when I am describing what you said, and fairly stating that is at least partially reflective of a narcissistic attitude to have. I stand by it. Call it an insult all you like. I don’t think I’ve been particularly unfair in my assessment here. I actually went out of my way to be fair at a couple of points here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/22 11:49 AM
1	Gender Equality How have I lashed out? I was direct with what I think, but I think it’s fair to say my response was pretty tempered. I would completely stand by my use of the word “narcissistic” in reference to that sentence of yours I quoted. Whether it was a man or a woman who said it. It just so happens in this case, it happens to be a woman who seems to tacitly believe she will always be the one to do the dumping, never the one being dumped. Shocking.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/22 11:37 AM
1	Gender Equality As they are free to choose if they so wish. All the luck to them. I would also notice though the entitlement inherent in a statement like “they’ll remain single or keep dumping lazy assholes”, as though men are an unlimited resource that you can casually dispense with at your leisure. Rather ironically, this kind of attitude would increase the likelihood of your narcissistic ass getting dumped.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/22 11:30 AM
1	Gender Equality By all means, do whatever you like. I would also say that I would wager most women loudly spouting that rhetoric are full of shit, and actually want a partner to whatever degree. But that would involve some degree of humility and self awareness, so of course many are going to join in this “Yass kween tell ‘em” chorus. Of course, some of them no doubt are being genuine, and all the luck to them. It’s their choice to make, nobody else’s. But I would bet my life on it that the genuine ones are the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/22 11:16 AM
1	Gender Equality “…because they feel their (sic) being forced…” The eternal simultaneous contradictory strong and independent/victim with zero agency dynamic. Women are quite literally free to choose what they want and how they want to go about trying to get whatever that is. But, a woman’s kryptonite is accountability, and our choices have consequences. For better and for worse.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/22 11:07 AM
1	Women would do better in dating if they involved the men in their family with mate selection You are kidding me. The topic being responded to has nothing directly to do with being abused or having their teeth knocked out. Those elements were inserted by (im guessing) her. I swear to god, some of you deliberately go looking to be seen as victims even in hypothetical situations.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/22 07:18 AM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread No guy wants to be viewed as just a utility. At least with the hookup, it may be shallow, but it’s at least partially based on you yourself being desirable in some way, as opposed to what you can do or provide for someone. That’s roughly how id assume many men see it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/22 12:22 AM
1	Women don't necessarily want the best men, they just want a guy better than them We clearly don’t see eye to eye and that’s fine. There are little parts of potential overlap, but I think it’s fair to say we see this very differently. Two specifics in response here. On the point of social media/podcasts/etc with regard to dating, I’ve always been of the opinion that despite how I see things broadly, I’ll be the first to admit there’s no shortage of stupid ideas under that umbrella, nor no shortage of guys taking an initially defensible premise and running way too far with it.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/22 10:19 PM
1	Women would do better in dating if they involved the men in their family with mate selection Okay, I’ve hit the limit of trying to at least partially empathise with someone I disagree with. I’m sure others will notice the one way attempt at empathising too. Finally, literally not a single one of your statements beginning with “your position is…” was accurate. Make of that what you will.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/22 09:16 PM
1	Women would do better in dating if they involved the men in their family with mate selection Only one of us have even made an attempt to be even handed here. I am not blaming this hypothetical woman for anything. The only point being made is you quite literally have not said a single thing, not even a backhanded partial sentence acknowledgment, that does not put this hypothetical woman in the passive position with zero will, agency nor accountability on their side of the ledger. Again, I have not denied that this happens for a second. I have explicitly stated my (and most peoples) dista…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/22 09:03 PM
1	Women would do better in dating if they involved the men in their family with mate selection In case it wasn’t obvious from the prior response, let me make this explicit. Yes, there are a ton of shithead men unfortunately, and outside of rare crazy people, nobody is going to defend that kind of behaviour when it is witnessed. Nobody is trying to put all blame on one side here. Men and women both have more than their fair share of shitheads in both similar and differing ways. Having said that now, literally at no point throughout your two detailed replies have you said a single thing tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/22 08:45 PM
1	Women would do better in dating if they involved the men in their family with mate selection Isn’t it funny how at no point here, was the woman’s own choices even remotely brought into question? There is clearly room to debate some of what was said there, ain’t gonna deny it for a second. But my god, not even a backhanded attempt to be remotely even handed here. In the context of this topic, this kind of response is precisely where the common idea of zero accountability comes from.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/22 08:32 PM
–	Are the only men who care about n count are men with low or no n count? Right. Gonna try in vain to put this question to bed once and for all. Girls, as your number goes up, the statistical outcomes for any man who may partner up with you long term become worse. Men know this too, aside from the simple reality that very few men want a woman who has slept with tons of men. Ignore this at your own risk. And guys, if it’s a consideration for you that’s fine, but don’t be morons about it. Very few adult women are going to have had zero to a couple of partners. There is …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/22 08:24 PM
1	I always cringe when people discredit evo psych by saying we’re in control of our instincts Still not entirely sure of the point here. Though, I’ll take a stab in the dark and simply say beware the person who tries to convince you they are immune to temptation. They arent. Whether they indulge it or not is another question. But nobody is immune. Nobody.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/22 07:53 PM
1	I always cringe when people discredit evo psych by saying we’re in control of our instincts Even overlooking the wiggle room to debate your definition of society there, let’s just accept it for arguments sake. Okay, so what? Whether we want to admit it or not, human beings are very susceptible to temptation. And like likelihood of giving into it only increases with access to more sources of temptation. I’m struggling to see the point you’re attempting to make in context here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/22 07:48 PM
1	Women don't necessarily want the best men, they just want a guy better than them I think you might have possibly misinterpreted the intended message there. I explicitly both said I don’t think the reality is as cut and dry as OP suggests, and I also gave my opinion that much of your response was nonsense when applied to the broader population. Not an attack on you, per se. I also said potentially self serving. The word potentially was there for a reason, because I am in no position (nor do I wish) to gauge how accurate what you said is with reference to yourself. I am thinki…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/22 07:37 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread 95% of people indicated that they wouldn’t ghost someone they’ve dated. Self reporting strikes again. That one was funny.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/22 07:04 PM
1	Those who don’t agree with the red pill. What advice that isn’t red pilled would you give to those who struggle with dating? “….primarily going to work for average, unremarkable people who lack critical thinking abilities”. Right. So, the vast majority then. Suddenly that part about critical thinking seems a little ironic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/22 06:54 PM
1	Tinder and other dating apps are rotting the brains of women The point is not to call anyone a liar. I don’t know these people, nor does this have any effect on me whatsoever. The only point being made there is that many people like to claim they don’t use/have never used/whatever such services. At least a great many of those who claim as such are lying. And the last part. You did it again just now. The sentence “and yes, most people don’t go on the apps except when they do….” contradicts itself within the same sentence. That statement say’s absolutely no…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/22 06:50 PM
–	Mumsnet (UK's largest blog for mothers) users IMO affirm the fundamental RP and MGTOW truths. Thoughts? Look, it’s tough to put much significant stock in a single post or article/whatever like this. No way to verify any of it and all that. However, I will say that this kind of thing is insanely common if you go looking around female centric publications (where it’s assumed not many men will be reading) and websites, especially in advice or confessional sections. No way to verify this particular one, but on balance I’d actually give the writer some degree of credit for honesty and self awareness. N…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/22 06:46 PM
1	Tinder and other dating apps are rotting the brains of women Why don’t people get this basic point? Just because someone tells you something, that does not constitute proof what they said is true. Especially when few people would overtly say something like “I’m on dating apps all the time”, even if it were accurate. Also, the very first thing you said “most people don’t go on the apps between relationships unless it’s just to have them as an option”. Aside from the prior point I just made, that was basically a circular statement that said nothing. I could…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/22 06:06 PM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread People can do as they wish, and yes absolutely many guys go stupid with this n count thing. However, let’s also not be silly and pretend that there are not very good reasons for any given guy to consider it from a risk assessment perspective. Especially in the context of a long term relationship, more partners equals more risk. Like it or not, that’s the reality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/22 01:10 PM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread Brilliant. In response to someone explicitly claiming perhaps women should actively lie about something, your take away was “what?!! Men lie??!?!??”	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/22 01:00 PM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread “….if enough women start lying about….” As though it doesn’t already happen by and large. You don’t need to pass this on. Whether they choose to lie about it or not, women already are aware that they have incentives to not openly state partner counts above a certain point. Especially when seeking commitment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/22 12:58 PM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread There are no doubt plenty of men who do the bare minimum. Not going to deny it. But, to pretend it’s the men (ie the side of this that generally has far fewer options at any given time) who are doing the bare minimum by and large is very questionable. To even have an option, almost by definition most men need to be above “bare minimum”, however one personally chooses to define that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/22 07:41 AM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread You have set the table in a non good faith way with many of these bullet points here, and taken outlier extreme points of view as being somehow representative of what reasonable people who agree with the opening premise would also subsequently agree with. To take point number one. Do you really think most (even red leaning) men are honestly going to claim that “it’s okay when men cheat”? Nobody with any rational sense, nor sense of consistent application of principle is going to argue that posit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/22 07:24 AM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread Nobody reasonable is going to deny there’s a lot of stupidity bouncing about in this space. I’ll be the first to acknowledge it without reservation. But speaking in sweeping generalities here, who is preferentially and disproportionately selecting for particular traits and behaviours? In addition and not so coincidentally, often in contrast to some typically feminist flavoured claims. Hint, by and large, it isn’t the men. Let’s be reasonable. Yes, men as a demographic have more than their fair s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/22 07:17 AM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread First, I love the glossing over the fact that even raising the idea of a pre nup from the male side more often than not tends to go down like a lead balloon. “I can’t believe you think I would do that” and so on, with complete disregard for the statistical reality and attendant consequences. Second, generally speaking men are either ambivalent about a woman’s career, or at the very least, how much she earns and/or her social status is not a primary sorting criterion. The sheer reluctance of wome…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/22 06:32 AM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread Only if one ignores the likelihood of divorce, which is a factor conspicuously not controlled for in such typical data sets. Even ignoring that obvious glaring oversight, this is still a highly debatable claim.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/22 05:57 AM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread Not gonna sign off on everything under that broad red pill umbrella (plenty of nonsense there), nor am I gonna deny that way too many guys take some particular broad concepts and run with them to a stupid degree. Here’s the rub though. The vast majority of men grow up being blue pilled for want of a better term. Over time, it’s almost universal that men notice that what women generally choose tends to deviate from what they claim to want in varying degrees. At some point after, whether they like…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/22 05:51 AM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread Marriage will work for some people. Of course it will. Problem is, in the face of objective hard data that paints a less than pleasant picture right outta the gate before you even start, everyone thinks they will be the exception. Invariably, some will turn out to be right. I would argue many more are likely to learn otherwise one way or the other.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/22 05:07 AM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread This kind of mentality always bugs me. Yes, there is a shitload of nonsense that falls under that umbrella, no question. But, not unlike particular red pill ideas, if the people engaging with said ideas broadly didnt notice a difference in strike rate, particular concepts simply would not stick at all. They would simply remain wacky ideas that very few people would grant credence to. The fact is that many men initially heard certain concepts and first thought “that’s nonsense”. Only to notice ev…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/22 04:28 AM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread Perhaps just as (if not more) important is the environment in which she works. Something where one expects men and women to flirt/hook up/whatever (eg bartender)? Yeah I’d say that’s a relevant consideration.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/22 04:22 AM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread Not endorsing it at all, but monkey branching specifically refers to securing the next relationship option before exiting the current one. Small distinction, but not exactly the same thing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/22 02:55 AM