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Came here for this. Did that man deserve to die? Fuck no. Was that woman in the right to shoot and kill him? Fuck no. But if you're in a dispute with someone about some non life or death bullshit, and the other party pulls out a gun.... fucking leave. Run away., De-escalate. I've seen numerous videos of dudes dying because they're in an argument and the other party pulls out their gun, and the party without a gun - typically a man - wants to be MR MACHO MASCULINE MAN, and keeps approaching/threa…
/r/MensRights03/07/26 02:50 AM
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Men's Lib is a "Sorry I have a Penis" club. A "male space" where they use their "space" to proclaim how bad men are and discuss what they can do to benefit women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/24 03:28 PM
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Do some of you actually believe there's a logical trap out there, a big AHA! moment where you're going to get one of those sneaky feminists and have them cornered, and they'll admit you were right the whole time, and then everyone around you will start applauding!?!? There's a lot of discourse to be had between feminists and men's activists, looking for a "GOTCHA" moment ain't the play.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/23 07:21 PM
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Y'all are falling for the trick. The whole marketing campaign of this movie has been promoting how "MRAs and Incels are super mad" about it. The best thing you all could do is ignore this fucking movie. Every time you rant about it, every bit of men being angry about the movie, regardless of how well justified you believe it is, you make the movie money. Feminists and people who blindly support them are flocking to this movie to "Spite those evil misogynists" who are protesting. It's a genius co…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/23 02:38 AM
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r/twox is literallly r/WeHateMen Don't go there, they don't want to listen, they don't want to talk to you, they don't want a debate. They want to show up, post "MEN SUCK AND SHOULD DIE" and get a million upvotes and responses like "FACTS" and "PREACH IT, QUEEN" Save your breath for places it might do some good.
/r/MensRights16/06/23 12:14 AM
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This is why i've mostly abandoned this sub and hang out at /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates . People who try to argue this sub isn't completely a right-wing Trumper zone can see the downvotes you got and stfu.
/r/MensRights11/04/23 03:32 AM
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You're not wrong, but perhaps my phrasing was off. I support equality, which many purport to be the stated goal of feminism. That the history of feminism is quite a lot less pure than that is zero surprise to me. But I think I made my meaning well understood in my original post, and feel this is a bit of semantics.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/23 02:56 AM
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Reconciling feminism with the rights of men is going to take understanding the difference between the stated core of original feminism - equality - from the actual practice of many (most!) feminists in the world - especially online. You'll notice there's less resources for the issues men face, and one of the biggest factors is that feminists have poisoned the well. They've made it so any discussion of men's issues means you're an incel misogynist terrorist right-wing facist. They literally have …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/23 04:34 PM
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kissing her against her will while physically restraining her? I'm sorry, we just have quite different ideas of creepy.
/r/MensRights18/07/22 04:21 PM
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This is the kind of thing we don't need here. "Misandrists/ angry feminists are all ugly bitches that can't get a man" is the same energy as "All those misogynist MRAs are small dick incels who can't get laid" Be better.
/r/MensRights18/07/22 02:02 PM
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And while I recognize her as the primary aggressor, this: I respond by wrapping her over the arms in a bear hug and bringing her down onto the bed. I start kissing her on the neck and cheek and saying “Baby please calm down. I don't want to fight with you. I love you. We don't treat each other this way.” Is creepy as fucking fuck. As others have said, you physically restraining her is a bad move anyway, even though we understand. But kissing her neck while you have her immobile- that is a 100% F…
/r/MensRights17/07/22 10:19 PM
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Work on who? I've already had to unfriend and block 2 people who literally just posted Amber's statement and echoed that Johnny's side just bamboozled the jury with every bad thing they could find on Amber, and that this verdict really does make it more dangerous for "actual victims" (read: women) to get justice. Hopefully, the general public at large, those more in the center on this issue, will lean more towards understanding that men can be abused. But for the Duluth Model fanclub, they're ea…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/06/22 11:42 PM
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I'm really glad this action was taken. To be taken more seriously, we have to start doing better in what content and message we send. I hate going slippery slope, but when you get lax about things like this, it's only a stones-throw away from being a cess pool where things like the Sharon Osborne clip are posted 100 times a day. I think the vast majority of people here agree that there are parts - large parts - of feminism that have done harm to men as a class. That doesn't mean all feminism is …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/22 12:20 AM
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r/menslib = "Sorry I have a penis"
/r/MensRights21/04/22 01:10 AM
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We know the governments don't give a shit. They won't give a shit until we make enough people, enough voters give a shit. I explained my opinion on how to make more voters give a shit. Or stick to the same guns that haven't worked the entire time so far.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/02/22 07:13 PM
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I'm going to speak a truth (at least true in my eyes) that will be uncomfortable for many here: While I believe the studies we quote showing men victimized more, we will not make actual headway with those facts/studies. Why? The mainstream audience will not listen to that idea. not yet. We do not go from where the public is now to where they should be in one big step. I've seen plenty of studies that show women more likely to be victims of domestic violence, but also show that men are very close…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/02/22 01:56 AM
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don't bother arguing with him. his kind of trash and outrage porn is why this sub is a lost cause. Rest of the sub: Please downvote me while jerking it in outrage. Maybe when you're done, you can play the fucking Sharon Osborne video for the 8 billionth time if you need help finishing your outrage wank. I much prefer the conversation at leftwingmaleadvocates. Doesn't actually bend a knee to feminism, like menslib does, but is a little lighter on the pointless and often misleading outrage porn li…
/r/MensRights14/01/22 04:16 AM
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lol. r/menslib is just "Sorry I have a penis". don't waste your time with it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/22 10:16 PM
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Rage-masturbation needs to go if we want to be taken seriously. Posting information about laws, discussions about society and masculinity, discussing the harms of the ways society does hurt men - all great. Posting that shitty facebook post about the woman who wonders if she can force her child's babysitter to pay child support, or posting the god-forsaken Sharon Osborne laughing clip for the millionth time so we can all take out our dicks and stroke yelling WOMEN BAD WOMEN BAD WOMEN BAD - makes…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/21 04:50 AM
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I'm shaking my head at this. Either you or I are in the wrong subreddit. Feminism has many flaws, is due much criticism for the actual harm that has been done to men in many ways. But believing open advocation for castration and killing men is common, prevalent feminist thought is outright misogyny and just plain lunacy. Attributing that line of bullshit to feminism is as legitimate as those who paint all male-advocates with the "rape should be legal" brush just because they can cherry pick one …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/11/21 06:16 PM
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PLEASE. STOP. RESPONDING. TO. SATIRE. AS. IF. IT'S. LEGITIMATE. This is satire. it's a joke. Journalist Katie is an account that posts satire of feminists. Responding to this shit like it's real makes the members of this community look like the worst Facebooking Anti-vaxxer conspiracy nutjobs - we must not be this gullible! You cannot froth at the mouth at this level of absurdist bait if you want any part of this subreddit and what it stands for to be taken seriously.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/11/21 05:09 PM
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I knew exactly what fucking video it would be without clicking on it. Stop posting this fucking thing. Everyone here's seen it. Bringing it up again and again is outrage porn, not activism. There's genuine injustice done to men in the justice system. Highlighting instances of it can be of service to raise awareness and bring up good discussion. Posting obviously fake stories, and worse, that fucking Sharon Osborne video for the billionth time -is just masturbation. It makes us look bad, to any o…
/r/MensRights11/11/21 07:00 PM
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If this thread had been about defending calling women sluts, i'd agree with you. But it's more aimed at discussing why it's ok to insult men based on their sexual history. I just don't see the misogyny in that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/21 04:48 PM
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menslib - "Sorry I have a penis" It's interesting to see that even their worship of all that is feminism at the expense of men has limits.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/21 11:18 AM
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These "Sorry I have a Penis" clubs exist to undermine actual arguments and progress genuine male advocates make. They exist so feminists can point to them and say "See, THIS is the right way to advocate for men" - which of course, isn't really advocating for men at all. Having a group that simply says "The feminists are right, it really is all our fault, guys" doesn't help our actual cause one bit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/21 05:58 PM
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'Toxic masculinity' should be a term used to help men with their issues. Instead, it's a club used to bash men and blame them for their issues rather than spend resources trying to help them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/21 12:16 AM
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I'm sorry, but while the dude who called in was ganged up and treated atrociously by these rude-ass hosts, he had no fucking game. For instance, he had a chance to bring up an important subject, and he takes his one opening with "Pension age is different in some countries" I'm not saying it's not an issue, but when a platform like this gives you one shot to bring up an issue to discuss, and you pull out "Men have to wait longer to retire in some countries other than this one" - YOU'VE FUCKING LO…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/21 06:29 AM
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I agree, but you're plea is going to fall on deaf ears. I've tried for years to convince members of the MRM on various platforms to try to not say things can easily be taken out of context, and to not upvote actual misogyny. And there is always a huge pushback, there are a ton of MRM members with a serious "THEM LIBS CANT MAKE ME AFRAID TO SPEAK! I'LL SAY WHAT I WANT" Some people have no idea how important not giving our enemies easy ammo to discredit us is. But they don't.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/21 01:51 AM
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It's an awful clip. It's misandric as hell. And it was posted like fucking clockwork every goddamn day in r/mensrights. It's a clip showcasing an awful event, but let's not start posting this daily for us to circle-jerk over like r/mensrights does.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/21 02:48 AM
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"Anyone know any hot actresses that can act in fantasy/non-reality roles and have romantic chemistry with Jason Momoa?" Jason: "Hmmm... let me think...."
/r/MensRights11/02/21 06:38 AM
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Menslib is, and has always been, just another "Sorry I have a penis" club. It's why I'm enjoying this subreddit so far. I want a place to feel I can actually discuss mens issues (unlike r/menslib) without it immediately branching into rightwing OWNING THE LIBS (like r/mensrights has become)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/02/21 02:06 PM
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100%, especially the edit part. menslib is just another "sorry i have a penis" club, and the mensrights sub is fully right-wing. I'm a lefty, for the most part. I think there certainly are societal issues faced by women that need to be addressed. But as stated so many times, men face issues as well, and feminist politics has made it a political death sentence to even acknowledge men have issues. Notice how no prominent politicians proclaim to be MRA or Mens Advocates. Zero. None on the left, and…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/21 04:30 AM
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This sub does not need an upvoted thread around the subject of defending Anders Breivik. Don't make it this easy for the detractors of this place to get other to dismiss the sub or the movement as a whole. Downvote me, IDGAF, but you know I'm right.
/r/MensRights04/01/21 04:44 AM
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Imagine - hating when the police execute and assault people who haven't been convicted.... and also hating when the court of public opinion gets people fired and ruins their life without a conviction or evidence. Crazy! Who could possibly hate both?!
/r/MensRights06/07/20 08:08 PM
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Stop feeding the trolls, people.
/r/MensRights02/07/20 07:36 AM
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r/SorryIHaveAPenis strikes again
/r/MensRights12/03/20 04:19 AM
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you can pull apart and dissect every word i say, but in the end i'm not the one saying: males cannot experience emotions such as remorse and generosity is a "mainstream" opinion.
/r/MensRights21/12/19 12:16 AM
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"Men are too violent" and "Men are incapable of experiencing the emotions of remorse and generosity" are not the same fucking thing. The kind of nonsense expressed in this post is a circle jerk for the sub and would hurt our cause if and when seen by those who don't care for Men's Rights. They would see this post, think we assume all of feminism thinks men are emotionless rage robots, and dismiss us as being out of touch. That some of you don't get that is why it's always so easy for people to c…
/r/MensRights20/12/19 10:43 PM
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this is mainstream opinion No, no it's not. A ton of feminism's bullshittery is indeed mainstream opinion, it's true. And there are far too many anti-male opinions out there that are indeed accepted mainstream - also true. But "males cannot experience emotions such as remorse and generosity" is not even close to mainstream, and you fucking know it. Don't be disingenuous for upvotes.
/r/MensRights20/12/19 05:45 PM
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congrats, /r/MensRights Your conversion into alt-right haven is complete. I'm sure memes from T_D will be front-paging here any second. FUCK. I wish there was a place I could talk about MensRights that wasn't completely alt-right (here) or "Sorry I have a penis" (r/menslib) - is there no place for people actually focused on Men's Rights?
/r/MensRights26/11/19 01:34 PM
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Can someone explain to me what this has to do with Men's Rights? I'm just not following the connect.
/r/MensRights19/09/19 07:18 AM
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Once you leave, you're fucked. Get a lawyer to fix what they can. To other men reading this: DO NOT FUCKING LEAVE. If she says she wants a divorce, she can leave. YOU FUCKING STAY IN THE HOUSE UNTIL/UNLESS YOU'RE ORDERED OUT BY POLICE.
/r/MensRights11/06/18 01:52 AM
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I believe in Mens Rights, and will to the day I die, but this subreddit has become the misogynist, white-supremacist shithole the SJWs always said it was. I used to fight against it, but I've mostly abandoned this place. Let the alt-righters have it, it's tainted goods now.
/r/MensRights16/04/18 06:26 PM
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The fact that this is getting upvoted proves that r/mensrights really is the r/incels r/redpill offshoot the critics say it is. I don't spend much time here anymore, and seeing this get upvoted, I wash my hands of you entirely. Congrats on becoming the White Supremacists they've been saying we were the whole time. I can no longer defend this sub. They were right, I was wrong.
/r/MensRights04/01/18 01:53 PM
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I'm really happy to see this here and upvoted. In years past, any of this kind of discussion got you massive downvotes, labeled a "concern troll", and scorned by most of the subreddit as a feminist shill in disguise.
/r/MensRights01/12/17 10:41 PM
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Ridiculously fake. Those of you foaming at the mouth at this are making us look like fools. u/ElectronicPotatoes - are you happy now, fucker? I'm sure you went on your real account and posted links/screenshots of these idiots responding to such an obvious troll. Seriously, some of you people are just dumb.
/r/MensRights15/11/17 02:01 PM
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#SorryIHaveAPenis
/r/MensRights19/10/17 12:14 AM
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I'm trying to remember which feminist rallies have been blockaded, disrupted, fire-alarmed, who's audience has been physically attacked by MRAs.
/r/MensRights10/10/17 01:34 AM
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How does this post have any upvotes? Are there that many trolls here? Does OP have that many accounts? This seems like the kind of thing a troll would post here and upvote with bots just to go to every other subreddit and shout "LOOK WHAT THOSE MISOGYNIST MRAS ARE UPVOTING"
/r/MensRights25/08/17 03:53 AM
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And remember, feminists biggest ally, the mass media, is busy right now trying to link all of Mens Rights to the Nazis/White Supremacist movement. And sadly, it's working, as I'm starting to see little things popup in social media where people are lumping MRAs with the above groups.
/r/MensRights19/08/17 01:57 PM
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but....why? Are you really that upset about the new Dr. Who being female?
/r/MensRights17/07/17 05:39 AM
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Sure. But he wasn't right about Star Wars or Mad Max, and us having an uproar over Dr. Who plays PERFECTLY into our critics hands. It's hard enough getting people to respect MR as a legitimate cause without gift-wrapping CNN headlines like "Mens Rights Advocates call for Boycott of Dr. Who after female lead named". It allows the feminists to further to narrative that MRAs are spoiled man-children with only petty issues and loss of "privileged status" to complain about.
/r/MensRights17/07/17 04:15 AM
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Can we please not. Seriously, can we please not rise to the bait, here? Can we not fly off the handle just because the new Doctor is a woman? This is not a men's rights issue. Let Roosh at his Return of Kings call for the same boycott he calls for every time. Let the media reporting "MRAs call for boycotts" be as false as they were for Mad Max and Star Wars.
/r/MensRights17/07/17 03:23 AM
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OP, you're either a troll here to make us look bad, or you dumb, you so dumb. Either way, think a little harder next time. And everyone who upvoted this ridiculous post, what the fuck?
/r/MensRights24/06/17 02:02 PM
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Fine. I'm satan. But let me ask - If you were that bouncer, what's your move?
/r/MensRights19/04/17 12:05 AM
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I'm sure the goodmenproject or r/srsmen or any one of the other "sorry i have a penis" clubs would love your input, you big strong White Knight Protector of the Pedastaled Womyn Goddesses. Let me also ask a question, Mr. Knight. Let's roleplay. You're that bouncer. Drunken sweetie in high heels swings for your head... your move is....? Edit: It's been amusing watching the White Knight fucktards from r/drama show up and defend the "never hit a woman, but it's ok if she hits you" attitude. Quick, …
/r/MensRights19/04/17 12:00 AM
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Wang Chi: A brave man likes the feel of nature on his face, Jack. Egg Shen: Yeah, and a wise man has enough sense to get in out of the rain!
/r/MensRights12/04/17 09:52 PM
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Why is this fucking here?
/r/MensRights26/03/17 01:48 PM
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So, here's the deal. When talking about "mens issues groups", there's two types of clubs, I've found. 1) Genuine Men's Rights groups 2) "Sorry I have a penis" clubs You can guess which GoodMenProject is.
/r/MensRights23/02/17 02:54 AM
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Standard liberal "Sorry I have a penis" club. i.e. - A male "re-education" center. Don't forget to download this misleading headline. This belongs in r/feminism, and has nothing to do with MR.
/r/MensRights12/10/16 07:02 AM
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There's two main types of "mens issues" groups- MRAs and "Sorry I have a penis" clubs. The moment you're not scraping and shuffling enough for your feminist overlords, your Sorry I Have a Penis Club enters the EBIL, EBIL MRA camp.
/r/MensRights23/09/16 01:49 PM
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This is also a fact: It's mostly men engaging in the behavior. Source?
/r/MensRights16/09/16 01:34 AM
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I think another part of this you are, willfully or not, missing, is that this behavior is being labeled "manspreading", implying that only men take up too much space. As this photo suggests, there are plenty of time women are taking up more than one seat, via their sitting position or purses/bags, but somehow, that's "different", because if a man does it, he's abusing his "privilege" to directly oppress women. It's not that there's aren't assholes taking up too much space, it's that, much like "…
/r/MensRights15/09/16 10:48 PM
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Calling those who disagree with your point of view bigoted ('antisemitic and antiislamic') is from the bad guys play book, not ours. We can (and do) disagree on a particular issue, but there's no reason we can't all work together on the issues we do agree on. But calling names and using shaming tactics don't belong here. Take that shit elsewhere.
/r/MensRights31/07/16 09:04 PM
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Just checkin - I don't think we're being serious at all, but giving Wil Wheaton any further pub when he completely hates MRAs and is a feminist puppet is not a great idea. Unless we were doing so sarcastically/ironically, in which case, carry on.
/r/MensRights23/07/16 05:17 PM
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I know we're supposed to use archive.is - but in this case, it removed the facebook post, so there is no context for us to judge what happened.
/r/MensRights19/06/16 01:35 PM
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This sub is sinking faster and faster. We have plenty of legitimate stories, some of which are being discussed in this sub - Hillary's identifying women as the biggest victim of the prison system, for instance. Or discussing requiring women to register for the draft, same as men. But inbetween those, we get shitposts like this. This is a strawman and a repost of one at that. Between nonsense like this and the apparent takeover of this sub as r/fatpeoplehate_jr, we're making it too easy to make u…
/r/MensRights29/04/16 08:04 PM
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"And it is appropriate to attack their appearance cause often the SJW's are losers who failed to succeed in society." This is legitimately the worst thing I might ever have seen here. Because it's obvious some of you believe this, believe this a valid argument. It's the oldest fallacy in the book - ad-homenim. If you have to call someone "fat" in an argument, it is YOU, and not THEY, that have no ideas. This sub really is fatpeoplehate_jr now, isn't it?
/r/MensRights28/04/16 09:08 PM
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It's gnawing at me greatly. Are there too many trolls? Or are the critics right? Is /r/mensrights just a den of unbridled misogyny? Do all the feminists who say "Men have issues, but those /r/mensrights goons are just woman-hating assholes" have the right of it? I'll never stop advocating for the rights of men. And no, before another asshole jumps up and acts like I'm trying to cowtow to feminism, I still think feminism is behind much of what's wrong, and I'll never apologize for attacking it's …
/r/MensRights28/04/16 06:15 PM
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So, if a slim, attractive woman were shutting down dissent and promoting misandry, would it be ok? I mean, part of this is focusing on her actions, which is appropriate. Her actions are appalling and too-often typical of the SJWs we find as our political opponents. But again, every fucking time we as a movement focus on "What a cow! LOL! SHE's FAT" we look like the angry manchildren they always paint us as. Can we PLEASE focus on people's actions and ideas and not their fucking appearance. We ne…
/r/MensRights28/04/16 03:38 PM
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And again, more shitposts that make the MRM look exactly like our critics want us to. We're not all about Tradionalism. I don't give a rats ass about the nuclear family. I don't care if every child is raised in a single parent home. I just want Dads to get the same shot as custody as moms, for husbands to get the same treatment as wives. "Keeping the family together" paints us fundamentalist traditionalists - might as well paint the 'mom' in this picture with an apron and a vacuum cleaner. In ad…
/r/MensRights22/04/16 05:29 PM
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Susan Smith 2: Aussie Boogaloo
/r/MensRights12/04/16 01:30 PM
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It's a deal! We'll pay 20% more on International Women's Day, and they agree to have 9X more workplace fatalities on International Men's Day.
/r/MensRights08/03/16 02:49 PM
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It wasn't a human boy dummy, it was an actual human boy.
/r/MensRights15/01/16 05:50 PM
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Wow, do you work for the newspaper? You out-of-context quoted me pretty well there. Read my whole post again. It's not that I dislike the nuclear family, or am happy that so many homes are broken. It's that I have much bigger fish to fry than a "Get back in muh kitchen, bitch" line of thinking that comic seems to promote.
/r/MensRights09/01/16 04:40 AM
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How is this shit getting upvoted? Are we run completely by the trolls, or have we been co-opted by enough mouth-breathing ultra-conservative traditionalists that this is really the overriding view on this sub? Fuck your traditional family values. I'm not mad because feminism broke up the nuclear family. I'm not mad that feminism sent women out of the kitchen and into the workplace. I'm mad that feminism drives family courts to treat men like ATMs and not parents. I'm mad feminism has co-opted sc…
/r/MensRights08/01/16 03:29 AM
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as I heard long ago here on reddit, there's 2 main "mens issues" forum types - ones where we actually discuss problems men face, others that are "Sorry I have a penis" clubs. guess which /menslib is .
/r/MensRights06/01/16 07:35 PM
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Agreed. There seems to be a set of people, I don't know if they're trolls or just misguided, that seem determined to turn this sub into /r/fatpeoplehate jr. We get it. You don't like fat people. You don't want to date a fat chick. You hate the messages telling you that fat people are beautiful. It's not a men's rights issue. And filling this sub with it makes it FUCKING EASY FOR EVERY ONE OF OUR DETRACTORS TO CONVINCE PEOPLE WE REALLY ARE MISOGYNIST ASSHOLES. Really, when someone asks "What's wr…
/r/MensRights02/01/16 04:02 PM
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For me, I think this doesn't belong here because it's not real. One of the biggest arguments we have with feminists is how much mainstream, everyday feminism is hurting men. Feminists try to explain away the misandry by saying "It's only a small subsect of radfems, all real feminists don't hate men" The problem here is that the nonsense you've just posted really is that small subset of radfems, and does not represent a statistically relevant amount of feminism. Mainstream, everyday feminism driv…
/r/MensRights27/12/15 02:11 PM
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Looking at the username of the trollmitter, I'm betting this was submitted and upboated by a brigade. No wild accusations who, but this is absolute trash, and there's no way this many people who honestly care anything for Mens Rights upvoted this nonsense. This just screams to me something that was placed and upvoted exclusively so our detractors can say "See, this is all men's rights is about, they have no real point"
/r/MensRights23/10/15 12:53 AM
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It is in a Man's best interest to avoid sluts. TheRedPill is that way ----> Men's Rights is about achieving equality. Judging women as 'sluts' is not a rights issue. You can fight for your right to judge women's sexuality while arguing men should be judged differently elsewhere.
/r/MensRights18/08/15 11:25 AM
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All it does is show that you have no idea what the MRM is. It shows that you'll attack anyone with even a slightly different list of issues than you. If your list of issues includes "I think judging women for their sexual history is ok, but I don't think it should apply to men", then yeah, I have a problem. I am here to STOP double standards, not defend them. EQUAL IS EQUAL. nothing less, nothing more.
/r/MensRights17/08/15 10:57 PM
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This is serious Redpill/PUA crap. Defending slut shaming has NOTHING to do with men's rights. What, our right to call women "sluts"? All this does is provide our critics the proof they need that indeed Roosh V and his ilk really are MRAs. Are they? If this topic is "Mens Rights", then I guess Roosh really is our spokesman, and we owe a ton of media members an apology.
/r/MensRights17/08/15 11:46 AM
1

Yep, par for the course, especially from Australia. Domestic Abuse Hotlines: Women's Line - Let us provide you with victim services to help protect you and get back on your feet. Men's Line - You dirty, rotten wife beaters, call to see if we can possibly make your abusive, no-good life less of a misery to the poor, poor women you abuse.
/r/MensRights01/08/15 02:25 PM
5

And I'm 100% sure the jury's decision was 100% based on the evidence, and not at all influenced by a crying woman as the accused. I'm sure a husband murdering his wife in the same exact circumstances would've gotten the same exact reaction from the jury. 100% sure, yep.
/r/MensRights14/06/15 04:54 PM
2

You noticed that, too? I also enjoy the part where they equate believing men can be domestically abused or having a problem with said abuse is akin to being a grammar nazi. We're all just nitpicking to be assholes, right?
/r/MensRights13/06/15 01:51 AM
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Can we have more "feminism is hurting men by..." and less "fat and ugly".? I have many problems with the actions taken and viewpoints espoused by the modern feminist movement. But the fat and ugly thing is out of place. I do not like people characterizing all MRA's and fedora-wearing neckbeards, and similarly object to characterizing all feminists as fat, ugly legbeards. Using such childish ad hominem tarnishes the legitimate criticism you might have, while giving opponents an easy out from the …
/r/MensRights25/05/15 09:40 PM
26

Some men's groups are groups for men to get support and advance causes important to men. Some men's groups are "Sorry I have a penis" groups. Guess which one this sounds like.
/r/MensRights22/11/14 04:05 AM
1

I think your belief that any stat being from a .gov or .edu must be more credible than other statistics is not going to fly very far here. I'm afraid a lot of us don't quite have the faith in Colleges and Government Representatives that you do. And by the way, anyone who doesn't immediately sense that this OP is a troll with an agenda does not have a strong bullshit detector.
/r/MensRights01/10/14 01:34 AM
6

This is all wrong. Those women felt guilty, like they did something wrong. Someone needs to tell them - "It's never, never, never the Woman's fault." Our hero, Vice President Joe Biden, tells us so. So really, these women did nothing wrong - it's not their fault at all. I'll be it's those dirty, vile, villainous, oppressor shitlord male privileged scum MEN they slap, punch, and kick, that are really at fault.
/r/MensRights14/09/14 03:18 PM
18

"No, I keep running into these rude bitches who use minor flirting and chitchat as an excuse to vomit their social justice bullshit and personal prejudices all over me. You'd be surprised how often that occurs here."
/r/MensRights12/07/14 06:15 PM
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My favorite part is how apparantly, if a man claims he was attacked by a woman, and he killed her because of that, it's "blaming a woman for her own murder". But a woman using the battered woman defense after killing her man? Justice, of course! I'm honestly not shocked there are people spouting this nonsense. I'm only surprised at how many out there lap this shit up like it was fine wine. Oh, and by the way, if you were a man who was being abused, and because of that, killed your partner, you'r…
/r/MensRights22/06/14 08:07 PM
2

In regards to privilege, one of the things I think that holds back productive discourse is that it's one of main things used to shame/silence dissent to feminism. Disagree with a feminist in many (most) online communities, even in a respectful, fact-based or logic based manner? Check your privilege, you're mansplaining, you're derailing, #notallmen, WHAT ABOUT TEH MENZ. If feminists as a whole wish to see more meaningful discussion on the concept of privilege, a concept I actually do believe in …
/r/MensRights28/05/14 05:10 AM
10

League of Legends is the real cause of Internet Rape Threats: Confirmed.
/r/MensRights25/05/14 01:21 AM
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Is there any proof or even indication these are "feminists"? Yes, the tactics they use are shitty, and are the very same ones that feminists use. But that does not make them feminists. The event this guy was trolling was not a feminist event, no one mentioned "privilege", "mansplaining" or "patriarchy" here. Again, the tactics they use to try to silence dissent are the same ones used often by feminists. But that in itself did not make any of them feminists, and by identifying every woman we disl…
/r/MensRights24/05/14 12:45 PM
3

It's almost always a liberal posting that sort of nonsense. I often reply with "You don't like every part of the patriot act? What, you don't want America to be safe? You support the Terrorists?" The leap in logic between "our stated goal is x" and "anyone who opposes us must therefore hate x" is astounding. The difference between "we say we want x" and "our actions actually promote x" can be quite a bridge to cross, especially for modern feminism.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 03:23 AM
4

I have an issue with the headline (not just CAPS). Thanks to unchecked feminist political sway and an all-too-willing Obama administration, this is not "The Ultimate". That implies this is something unusual, a higher than normal event. IT is not. This is now much closer to "The Norm", "The Mundane" or "The commonplace" - Accusation is enough. The wonder of feminism is that they've instilled a culture that absolutely stacks the deck against the man in any case like this, and simultaneously gets t…
/r/MensRights15/02/14 12:04 AM
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You stated in your thread title anyone claiming to be feminist and MRA is making a hijack attempt. You're not merely disagreeing or arguing against them, you're labeling them with a word that is an exact equivalent of "derailing". Saying you don't think people can rightfully claim to be feminist and MRA at the same time is a valid point to argue (whether you agree or not). Calling anyone with that viewpoint out as "hijacking" is an attempt to avoid discussion through shaming, and is the moral eq…
/r/MensRights31/08/13 05:07 PM
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Ok, I see. It's not your comprehension, but your logic that is faulty. "Some Feminists believe in equality" is not the same as "All who believe in equality are feminists"
/r/MensRights31/08/13 05:00 PM
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You know what I'm tired of? People labeling everything they disagree with as "concern troll" and "hijack attempt". Maybe he's "womansplaining", OP? Or perhaps anyone claiming to be a feminist and an MRA should "check their privilege". Maybe you should just label all people who claim to be both feminist and MRA as "shitlord" and be done with it. I despise the way most feminist areas on the web shame any kind of dissent, and I will fight twice as fervently when I see the same within an MRA communi…
/r/MensRights31/08/13 04:53 PM
5

Is your reading comprehension this bad? Please highlight for me where Peterporky says anything remotely equivalent to "if you believe in equality you're a feminist!" There's a troll here, OP, but I suggest you look in the mirror to find him.
/r/MensRights31/08/13 04:50 PM
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So, I keep hearing ads for these guys , and want to cheer. I know nothing of their actual work, but they advertise a ton on my local sports talk station, and they certainly talk a good game. I merely post this as a sort of foil to the kind of leech the linked article is highlighting.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 11:39 PM
4

Well, referring to her as random "A Woman" is still better than the time someone posted one of her links labeling her "a feminist".
/r/MensRights29/05/13 08:33 PM
15

Have you ever even heard of Lily Ledbetter?
/r/MensRights17/02/13 05:27 AM
5

I grew up in Columbia, in Howard County. I'm proud of them taking this approach. This is a great real-world example of a department taking a non-gendered approach to DV, and then seeing a fairly even split in victim gender. This underscores why we need to ditch VAWA and have a truly gender-neutral Domestic Violence Act authored.
/r/MensRights20/01/13 03:51 PM
1

I personally think getting married is a bad idea for a man due to the legal ramifications, but the "Traditionalist" label is something I understood to be more for people who are fighting to maintain "traditional" gender roles, who think women really should be "in the kitchen" with men doing all the work, and that true equality of the law is impossible and destructive. In actuality, I don't think your decision to marry or not marry changes your stance on this. You either believe in full equality,…
/r/MensRights15/01/13 04:37 PM
2

Wow, this guy spends 10 minutes railing on the "left", including for "never stating their views", while not bothering to take any of that 10 minutes to explain what his actual views are on gender relations. I hate "traditionalists" not out of some bullshit "LEFT vs RIGHT" "LIBERAL vs CONSERVATIVE" nonsense, but because I promote true equality, in all parts of the law, while "traditionalists" have come on here multiple times and told me that true equality is destructive and impossible to attain. …
/r/MensRights14/01/13 11:39 PM
1

No one enjoys dissenters. But your use of quotes around "MRA" and your statement that they are bedfellows with feminists is pretty clearly a statement of "Anyone who disagrees with me is not a REAL MRA."
/r/MensRights09/12/12 09:19 PM
3

I can agree with this. It's still an "identity outing" tactic, and will likely provoke actual doxxing response, I certainly see the point you're making. TBH, i was much more put off by the With-us-or-against-us crap than by the actual content. In relation to your arguments, I think I'm more in favor than i was originally. I still don't think those who disagree are necessarily feminist supporters
/r/MensRights09/12/12 09:04 PM
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I've had this "discussion" with Elam and JTO on reddit before. They overall are doing great work, I site Elam's articles and the research he's done on issues repeatedly. But as soon as you step out of 100% agreement, you're done. You're gone. You might as well announce your membbership into SRS at that point, in their eyes. And the inability to accept dissent is one of the things I dislike about feminism. You toe the line or you're ridiculed and harassed. I hate it when we do the same exact thin…
/r/MensRights09/12/12 06:11 PM
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Once again, AVfM leaves me with mixed feelings. Look at the opening paragraph: Allow me to start by once again acknowledging the small minority of “MRAs” and their bedfellows, the vast majority of feminists, who steadfastly believe that people should be allowed to spread hate, bigotry and violent ambitions under the cover of anonymity, as long as they are female and/or feminist. While AVfM has had some really good pieces, and usually does fantastic research, I absolutely cannot stand the "If you…
/r/MensRights09/12/12 04:52 PM
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Cute, but not quite it. More accurate analogy, imo: Feminist: We're about kissing babies and petting kittens, MRA: But I've seen you also kick puppies to get to those kittens. That's not right, kicking puppies. Puppies deserve rights, too. Femiinist: OMG! WHY DO YOU HATE BABIES AND KITTENS! MRA'S ARE BABY AND KITTEN HATERS!
/r/MensRights30/11/12 11:30 PM
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Due process is NOT rape culture. I think I want that on a bumper sticker.
/r/MensRights18/11/12 03:41 AM
3

I first heard this described in a discussion of why white people were crucial in the racial civil rights movement. It boiled down to: "If black people could solve their own oppression, they would have already done so. They needed to get the help of the group oppressing them to make progress." One of the biggest issues facing the men's rights movement is to get people to understand the power dynamic on how feminist groups (with the help of White Knights) are very capable of oppressing men. This d…
/r/MensRights04/11/12 03:30 AM
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Commenting on almost certainly fake, 100% bullshit like this makes us look like idiots. We need to stop posting facebook exchanges and going "THAT BITCH, look how bed us men have it" every time. We're better than this bullshit, mensrights. Stop posting this nonsense, and stop taking the bait every time in the comments.
/r/MensRights28/10/12 02:10 PM
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Just to nitpick a point, something i see often here: | (Just women, mind you. Because men don't use their bodies to make money. Ever. This is not the argument feminists use. Their argument is that due to patriarchal society, and the power dynamic in place because of it, with women being oppressed, and the historical treatment of women as less than human, and the fear about rape and rape culture, women looking at men lustfully is different and less threatening and de-humanising than men looking a…
/r/MensRights28/10/12 02:26 AM
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But isn't this what we want? Feminists who stay in echo-chamber safe spaces will never have their views challenged. These posts are by people who are, at the least, giving the pretense of wanting to understand us. It also gives us a chance to give our side of the issues in a way other, more-focused threads do not. Let /SRS and /Feminisms play the "STAY OUT OF OUR SUB IF YOU DON'T ALREADY AGREE" game. We want people to come here and talk to us. We're not a circle-jerk by rule, and we don't need t…
/r/MensRights21/10/12 12:16 AM
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Here's my take. The vast, vast majority of feminists truly want equality. Actual, real equality. The problem with feminism, similar to issues seen in the civil rights community with regards to African Americans, is that many, many big-money organizations are dependant upon the cause for their livelihood. As long as there's money to be made, they will try to make it. In order to hold onto the money stream, these organizations spend much of their effort on convincing women they are more oppressed …
/r/MensRights07/10/12 05:17 PM
3

Just enjoy that you can post dissent in this sub and not immediately get met with "LOL BENNED! DILDZ FOR EVERYONE!"
/r/MensRights23/09/12 03:27 PM
3

I will admit you may have me there. I've only worked for large corporations so far, with extensive HR involvement. I could see the HR reps fainting dead away if a hiring manager said something like the OP's story in front of them. So, I guess I will stipulate, it's possible this Dentist's Office is just really, really bad at business.
/r/MensRights21/09/12 05:17 PM
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I'll be honest, I'm finding this story a little hard to believe. If it occurred as stated, then the Dentist Office is opening itself up to a lawsuit. Most businesses are a little smarter than that. First off, why call a man in for an interview? For job openings, you receive applications or resumes - and then decide who to call in. If you're not going to hire a man, why would you call him in for an interview? Even if it was a situation where they put out an "open call", and just waited to see who…
/r/MensRights21/09/12 12:52 PM
12

But if you're being truthful, the window of "acceptable" behavior is much, much wider for the attractive. Many feminists deride SNL famous Tom Brady harassment sketch, but it largely rings true. Again, I agree, it's certainly possible to be a creep if you're attractive, and it's possible to be a non-creepy un-attractive guy. But your window of acceptable iwill be vastly, vastly different in most people's eyes.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 06:35 PM
1

Without trying to get into a taxes/budget discussion, right now, in the US, education budgets are severely strained. Whatever your solutions to this are, this is not going to be changed any time soon. So given what we're working with, right now, in reality, choices have to be made. Every dollar you spend on one thing is a dollar less to spend on anything else. Right now, we choose to spend education money on promoting girls in math and science, and spend far, far less, if any, on promoting boys …
/r/MensRights18/09/12 06:27 PM
2

Every budget is a zero-sum game. That's part of the definition of a budget. There will always be X amount of money available for education, and every dollar spent on one item is that much less to spend on another.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 11:44 AM
12

And that goes to the heart of the problem. It's not a dislike of girls succeeding- it's the double standard. Boys outperform girls in a certain area- OUTRAGE! SPEND MONEY! SPEND TIME! FIX IT! Girls outperform boys in an area- GRRL POWER! GIRLS ROCK! BOYS ARE LAZY!
/r/MensRights17/09/12 11:14 PM
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The gap in science and math is much smaller than the gap in writing. The government spends a significant amount of money and time on "Girls in math" campaigns, while nearly nothing is spent on programs targeting boys to improve their reading and writing. Educations budgets are, sadly, a 0-sum game. Despite the fact that the math gap is nearly closed, and the science gap is much smaller, we will continue to spend much more on programs helping girls in there areas of weakness than on boys. This is…
/r/MensRights17/09/12 05:24 PM
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I don't really care what the rules are - No jokes allowed, light humor allowed, let if fly anything goes - take your pic. Just apply it the same to everyone about everyone. Men, women, black, white, religious, atheist, everyone has the same rules and the same protections. Too many comments here arguing whether 0 tolerance is better, or lwaving everything completely open is. To me, every business should have the right to set it's own policy, it just has to apply equally to everyone.
/r/MensRights14/09/12 09:04 PM
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SRS response: cab driver's word: shitthatneverhappened.txt news report: notreal.jpg video of the event: neveroccurred.gif police report: totallyfake.png
/r/MensRights09/09/12 04:45 AM
2

For reference, given the current standing of the court, and our society which allows/promotes it, given that even if a man is raped by a woman, and she gets pregnant, he is still liable for child support, you could literally be kidnapped at gunpoint, have your sperm surgically removed, implanted in a woman, and you would be liable. No, this is (thankfully) not a likely scenario, but when you extend the precedent to it's logical end, it becomes easy to see that getting a prostitute pregnant can a…
/r/MensRights03/09/12 12:01 AM
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| [TW] Rational Argumentation Yep
/r/MensRights02/09/12 11:52 PM
6

CONFORM TO OUR STANDARDS OF BEAUTY IMMEDIATELY, OR FACE THE CONSEQUENCES! Thank god you were here, DerpMatt. As someone else who's overweight, I never once thought - "Gee, being fat is bad - I should try being thinner" The issue at hand is that no man, whether he looks like a Movie Star or a hobo, should face scrutiny for walking by a school on the way to the store. Your "eat a salad, hit the gym" bullshit is extremely condescending and unhelpful. If you believe the average fat guy just simply d…
/r/MensRights02/09/12 08:11 PM
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This absolutely sucks for those involved. Absolutely. Horrible. But, the silver lining. This is how progress happens. They don't arrest activists and supporters of a social movement until they get scared. It happened to all successful rights movements. This doesn't lessen the pain and harm done to those who sit in jail or are "questioned" - but as a movement, I can't help but see this as progress. You do not arrest people you can simply laugh at or dismiss.
/r/MensRights01/09/12 04:35 AM
5

Well, the problem is, you're still using a gendered slur. No, Bitch is not as bad as nigger in most American's eyes, but it's still a gendered slur. Your argument is unfortunately close to these: "I'm not calling all Mexicans greasy wetbacks, just the ones here illegally" "I'm not calling all black people porch monkeys, just the ones that harass people and mug people" "I'm not calling all <insert group> <insert slur>, only the bad ones." It still hurts your argument. I don't support people who c…
/r/MensRights29/08/12 11:44 PM
1

Poe's law in effect. I actually know this is satire (it is, right?), but it's close enough to the nonsense that pours out of some feminists mouths, especially guilt-ridden, kowtowing male feminists, that I'm less sure than I'd like to be that this isn't genuine.
/r/MensRights29/08/12 07:18 PM
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See, every time I suggest to people that using terms like that will not help our cause, I get a flood of downvotes and a huge slate of people saying "I will not play nice for the feminazis" and "You're just a feminist troll". Some people here refuse to look at the truth. It's like trying to argue against affirmative action. You might have some decent, logical, statistic driven argument, but if you end with "Now get those Niggers real jobs", YOU LOSE, your entire argument will be dismissed by 90%…
/r/MensRights29/08/12 01:54 PM
1

| This shows me that you ignore the fact that women have any problems whatsoever and think that only men are oppressed You either have poor reading comprehension, or I'm being trolled. I've stated that I do believe women still face issues, but my distinction is that the police will not enforce ANY of the issues against women. There is no discrimination against women buiilt into the laws, while men face actual LAWS AND POLICIES that discriminate against them.
/r/MensRights26/08/12 08:33 PM
1

VAWA - By the very name, this law implies that men are the aggressors, women always the victims in domestic violence. This law promotes primary aggressor laws, which are used by many police departments to automatically arrest the man at any male/female domestic violence call, regardless of who made the call and who appears to be injured. In addition, most government funded domestic violence shelters completely ban men, even male victims. Circumcision - It is legal to mutilate baby boys. The poli…
/r/MensRights26/08/12 08:22 PM
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|women also have to fight: for sexual rights, workplace equality, bc rights, abortion rights, equal pay rights, 1) Sexual rights? What enforceable by police sexual rights do women lack right now? What law or policy affecting women's sexual rights are you referring to? 2) Workplace rights - The laws that are enforceable by police already mandate equality. There is no law, enforceable by police power, discriminating against women in the workplace. 3) BC rights - Again, birth control is legal in al…
/r/MensRights26/08/12 07:56 PM
0

OK, exercise time- 1) Name the laws or policies enforcable by police in the US that are discriminatory against women.
/r/MensRights26/08/12 07:21 PM
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I'm saying, straight out, women have more rights in the US. This is not saying they have it better. There is plenty of societal and attitude related stuff that women get a bad deal on. But these are not rights. In terms of rights and laws, enforced with police power, men are discriminated against far, far more than women.
/r/MensRights26/08/12 05:20 PM
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|So because men (currently) don't have rights (that they should have, I agree), women don't deserve them either or should have them revoked? That's a horrid mindset you have. Put words in my mouth, why don't you. I NEVER said they should take away women's rights. My point is that while i feel, like you, that men and women both deserve bodily autonomy, it is very much the status quo that women's rights are observed while men's rights are trampled. This is usual and customary. That was my point.
/r/MensRights26/08/12 04:06 PM
2

But women promote and support circumcision constantly. Wanna know the difference? Abortion is legal, so women do currently have rights to bodily autonomy, while circumcision is not banned, so men do not. We all should have control over our bodies, but as usual, women have rights do and men don;t. Edit - Also wanted to add- what if you were inundated with constant spam telling women to stop cutting little boys. Everywhere you turn, there's a comic depciting women as the only ones who want to muti…
/r/MensRights26/08/12 03:54 PM
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The problem here is that this continues to frame the abortion debate as men vs women. I got a surprise for you.... education is a much, much bigger determination of abortion rights support than gender. I'm curious, all the women who keep shouting "Only women should be able to choose abortion law!" - what if women voted to ban abortion? Is that ok with you, because the decision was made by women? If you look at the linked data from gallup, more women than men believe in completely banning abortio…
/r/MensRights26/08/12 01:57 PM
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Obama: His admin sent the infamous "Dear Colleague" letter stripping any remnant of due process from college sexual assault allegations, allowing young men to be stripped of all scholarships and expelled from campus on any he said-she said allegation with 0 supporting evidence. Obama authored healthcare that sufficiently addresses women's health, but completely ignores men's health care. And as mentioned elsewhere, Obama has pushed using Title IX to try to even out enrollment in male-dominated f…
/r/MensRights25/08/12 03:17 PM
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I like it, but the whole "Feminists and MRAs are really on the same side" bit falls short on this point, for me: Feminism is largely responsible for many of the specific issues Men and boys face. Discriminatory laws and policies, such as VAWA, the family court system, and an education system that caters to the needs of girls while neglecting boys can all be traced back to feminism as causes or at least major supporters. Now, counter that. I for one, think there still are problems faced by Women …
/r/MensRights21/08/12 01:54 PM
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Complete hivemind, yep. Circlejerk of MRAS! Or maybe, just maybe, having them around is like associating with the race activists who call all white people the devil. Or the radfems who suggest men are inherently lesser beings. It's political suicide. Image isn't just important - IT'S THE WHOLE BALL OF WAX. We need to convince people that the rights of men are important. If we make a statement that women having the right to vote is bad, GAME OVER, WE LOSE, GOOD DAY, SIR. Whether you think "tradit…
/r/MensRights20/08/12 11:56 PM
1

This topic being on our front page hurts the cause, not helps it. One of the biggest attacks our detractors use against us is that we attack "Straw-Feminism". Having this held up as "What feminists think" makes us look as out of touch and ignorant as they try to paint us. This post being front-paged does our enemies a favor.
/r/MensRights20/08/12 01:32 AM
2

How did this obvious trolling get to the front page here? Lunatic Links like this bring out our frothing fringe, and can only make us look bad. There are too many genuine battles to fight, we cannot let stupidity like this take our time and energy.
/r/MensRights19/08/12 05:58 PM
0

For reference, the poster in question, FieldsofAsphodel, is a frequenter of SRS. Explains it all, methinks.
/r/MensRights13/08/12 07:30 PM
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So, you want everyone under the same laws. No special treatment for gender. Exercise for ya: Name 1 law or government policy that favors men. You see, i still believe there are societal areas where people's attitudes can be discriminatory against women. But in law, with the police power of force? There are no laws that favor men. Favor women? We've already listed laws and policies that favor women. Many of these were pushed for by feminist organizations. Individual feminists may very well be for…
/r/MensRights12/08/12 10:22 PM
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I actually think we are much more of an "Accusation Culture".
/r/MensRights01/08/12 10:41 PM
4

I hate what's happening here. I hate that progress against mgm is being rolled back. And factually, the biggest driving force is a jewish-based lobby. But is there a way to phrase this headline slightly less anti-semiticly? I mean, "The Power of the Jewish Lobby" is right out of the Nazi/KKK playbook. Is there a way to denounce Jewish leaders who who promote MGM without turning all the headlines into "DAMN THOSE JEWS AND THEIR RICH BANKER MONEY!" Some of you don't care about the image of this mo…
/r/MensRights16/07/12 06:47 PM
4

Yeah, I'm also bothered at what feels to me like an attempt at anti-semitism here. Do we mention the false-accuser's religion when it's a Christian or an Atheist? C'mon, submitter, we can do better. Couldn't we have talked about this case without making her religion a part of it?
/r/MensRights20/06/12 06:25 AM
2

In the end, the reason any of this discussion is necessary is because of discriminatory laws and policy. VAWA assumes the male aggressor/female victim dynamic, supports services for female victims and primary aggressor laws that mandate arresting the man no matter who called or who appears to be the actual victim. Isn't this ludicrous? Even if men were the aggressor 99% of the time (they're not), do we write laws that make that assumption? If there was a particular crime committed much, much mor…
/r/MensRights15/06/12 04:17 PM
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Seriously, could you have made your points without the ridiculous attacks at the end? This is the kind of unnecessary bullshit that gives us a bad image. We have the data, you (and others) have provided it. This person has come here looking to see if there's any merit in our point of view. Do you think that "Clown college" comment at the end is going to shame the OP into seeing our side of the debate? All it's going to do is make him/her less sympathetic, and give them a reason to ignore the ver…
/r/MensRights15/06/12 04:10 PM
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If you suggest any changes that would be admitting women abuse men more than "once in a blue moon", you will be denied and castigated severely. There is no amount of proof they will accept. There is no standard you can meet. "Man is oppressor, Woman is victim" - this is a religion, not a set of rules based on fact or logic. Expect reactions very similar to walking into a Baptist Church on Sunday with evidence God doesn't exist.
/r/MensRights15/06/12 03:00 PM
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See, here's where I sit back and wonder a little bit. On one hand, men are often demonized for their sexuality. The simplest common courtesy is often taken for harassment. But cat calling? Are any of us really defending whistling and yelling rude comments to a stranger walking down the street? This isn't starting a pleasant conversation with a woman at a bar. This is loudly and publicly verbally assaulting a stranger. Choose your battles. If you think people over-react to cat-calling, I get it. …
/r/MensRights14/06/12 01:16 AM
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MISANDRY DON'T REAL! I know /SRS is hardly the watermark to hold all feminists against, but they identify as feminist, and people like them are a part of the movement.
/r/MensRights14/06/12 01:08 AM
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I said to myself - there is no way that one single comment on that thread is Mick Foley related, is there? Then I had to look.
/r/MensRights13/06/12 08:09 PM
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See, this is great humor. I like it. I'm pro-humor, always have been. What we need to eliminate is the double-standard. Humor is humor. But yes, OP, the double-standard is very real, and the reverse situations you suggest would have certainly met with a biggger uproar. And that is what we should work to eliminate.
/r/MensRights13/06/12 02:52 PM
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I can only speak for myself. I don't dislike the feminism that fights for equal rights. I'm an egalitarian - I'll gladly stand with women on issues they are truly disadvantaged at. The problem I have is that feminism has created or supported discrimination against men and boys. Not merely "not fought against", but CREATED. Take for example our public school system. In the 70s, people saw the system, saw girls lagging behind boys severely, and a cry was sounded that our educational system was unf…
/r/MensRights10/06/12 06:22 AM
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because you know, those stupid right wingers can possibly be genuinely for the movement. /s It depends. Egalitarian MRA's who happen to be right-wingers politically are just as much MRA's as anyone else. I don't consider "Traditionalist" conservatives MRA's, they seem more akin to Male Supremacists who actually do want to preserve/establish male privilege. They exist, and call themselves MRAs, so I'm not trying to play the "No true scotsman" card to defend the movement - I'm merely stating that …
/r/MensRights01/06/12 09:30 PM
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I don't know for sure what the legal answer is. The way it should be, however, is: no, no person should need anyone else's permission for something like this. No man should need a wive's permission for a vasectomy, no woman should need her husband's for getting her tubes tied. If your spouse does this, and you don't want to stay married to that person, feel free to divorce them. But no one should ever have any say so over their spouse in these matters.
/r/MensRights30/05/12 08:39 PM
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Seriously, guys... this is a troll. Every time you post a link there, every time some of you take the bait and gnash your teeth at that lunacy, the author is rolling on the floor laughing at us. Please stop posting links there, please stop upvoting those links.
/r/MensRights28/05/12 10:39 PM
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For it to be a little easier! So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us. There are other forces at work in this world Othomson, besides the will of evil. Reddit was meant to find the Men's Rights Movement. In which case, you were also meant to be here. And that is an encouraging thought. -Gandalf the MRA
/r/MensRights17/05/12 06:11 AM
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I pray you are successful in your goal. And since you have a son, I bid you to stick around after your custody battle is settled. Boys are not getting a fair shake in schools, we need to fight so all of our sons are treated fairly in the public school system. Feminists have long rallied around making the world a better place "for their daughters". As a father of 2 sons, I work for the same goals for my children.
/r/MensRights15/05/12 05:08 AM
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There is a fight right now over the LBGT provisions on the VAWA bill. Do you know why LBGT provisions would even be necessary? Because the bill is gender-discriminatory in name and practice to begin with. When you have a bill that pre-supposes that DV offenders are men and DV victims are women, you run into all kinds of sticky situations. Does a Lesbian aggressor not deserve to be brought to justice? Does a victimized gay man not deserve support services? It's simple. Take the gender out of the …
/r/MensRights06/05/12 09:08 PM
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MRB for MRM Mod! Security Camera 3 for employee of the month!!
/r/MensRights06/05/12 08:34 PM
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Thanking and upvoting the rightsbot is like tipping the security cameras at a convenience store. Be glad they're there if they help stop crime or injustice, but don't make them the center of attention.
/r/MensRights06/05/12 08:03 PM
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why does /MR go to such great lengths to prove that they are just trolls? We'll stop going to such great lengths to prove they're trolls when such large portions of reddit stop going to such great lengths to believe them.
/r/MensRights06/05/12 06:49 PM
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I believe, firmly, there are differences, biological as well as socialized, between men and women. All I ask for, time and time out, is equality in the law. Everyone should have genital integrity as an infant. Everyone should be afforded a fair shake in our public schools. Every homeless person deserves the same chance at shelter. Every domestic violence incident should be judged on the merits of the evidence, and not have the assumption of the gender of the perpetrator or the victim. Men and wo…
/r/MensRights01/05/12 08:16 PM
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You seem to be concentrating on the societal attitudes. The "Man up, don't show emotions" stuff, the "Men must work tirelessly for women all their lives" stuff, the "Men are the source of all evil while women are our innocent victims" bullshit. I get that. Those are important things, and I hope we can push to make society's attitude better. But if you read my post history, I am concerned first and foremost with THE LAW. When ignorant people tell you to man up instead of expressing feelings, when…
/r/MensRights01/05/12 04:55 AM
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NEVER shows any kind of anger Well, that's the way the system is set up in this culture. Angry Man - He's evil and abusive! Angry Woman - What did that evil abusive man do to you to cause your anger?
/r/MensRights30/04/12 08:26 PM
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See, this is way too close to how most feminist groups treat men. I cannot support treating our female allies like they are second class or outsiders. Although I certainly appreciate cooperation from women in the MensRights movement, I no longer see it as necessary. How long until this turns into a list of rules for women who wish to join, like there are for men on countless feminist sites/groups? How long until we insist women have to defer to men here, or should be quiet unless asked a questio…
/r/MensRights30/04/12 04:19 PM
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I wasn't trying to rebut your point, to be honest, although i see how it could be taken as such. My point was more to point out that even when someone does come in here and tell us how to act and think, we don't immediately throw our keywords of doom at them and/or ban them out of the subreddit. Our arguments actually stand up to scrutiny, we don't have to hide behind no-dissent policies.
/r/MensRights30/04/12 04:14 PM
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WOMANSPLAINING! WOMANSPLAINING! CHECK HER PRIVILEGE! BENNED!!!!!! oh shit, that's right, luckily this isn't one of the many feminist leaning subreddits that bans all dissenting opinion. We allow dissent and discussion on this board.
/r/MensRights30/04/12 03:04 PM
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Ok, I'll look for it. I checked your comment history, you don't appear to be a troll of some sort, so I'm not calling BS to the entire thing, I'm just skeptical about the "I have a vag" part. It seems like an attitude we mention, and some women do indeed act like they are owed the world because of their genitalia, but I almost never hear it said straight out in this sort context. It feels like it was "added for emphasis" rather than part of the original quote to me.
/r/MensRights29/04/12 08:57 PM
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I'm sorry, but this part: I'm an independent woman, but I have a vag, so men should let me go, no questions asked is way too much. I'm really not buying it.
/r/MensRights29/04/12 08:44 PM
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I'm sorry for your personal troubles. The divorce court system is often brutal. I'm just sad that for some men, it takes personal tragedy like this to see the light and come here. It's like there's a small group of people everyone thinks are whacked in the head who keep saying the park is dangerous at night, and no one believes them until they get mugged. We need men who have been wronged by the system, but we will also need to find a way to attract people who haven't been personally harmed yet …
/r/MensRights25/04/12 03:12 PM
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For me, equality starts in law. The social aspects are important, but until we have the government, with it's power of police force and the ability to control how our dollars are spent, treating everyone equally, injustice will triumph. We cannot let the government tilt education, in money and forced curriculum and lack of due process in sexual assault cases in college, continue to disadvantage our boys. We cannot let VAWA and related Primary Aggressor laws based on the flawed and discriminatory…
/r/MensRights24/04/12 05:04 AM
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So...if a trial decides that a man didn't rape a woman This is not how trials work. The trial would determine there is not enough evidence, beyond reasonable doubt, to prove that a rape occurred and the defendant committed it. "Not guilty" is not conclusive proof everything the defense said was true, merely that they created enough doubt to prevent a "guilty" verdict. The defense might try to paint the accuser as a liar - they only need to garner enough doubt to get a not guilty verdict. But tha…
/r/MensRights20/04/12 02:58 PM
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While it's definitely sweet justice, it discourages real cases to come forward. Also, what happens, as is often the case, when a "not-guilty" verdict is made? I'm tired of hearing this. Especially about the danger of getting "Not-Guilty" verdict. We are for due process. Which means you cannot convict someone without overwhelming evidence that they committed a crime. Not enough evidence to get a conviction in an accused rape case is not the same thing as it being proven, beyond a reasonable doubt…
/r/MensRights19/04/12 04:28 PM
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The majority of the MRM is right-leaning Citation needed. There certainly are right-leaning people in the MRM, no doubt about it. But do we know for certain they are the majority? Don't want to sidetrack too much, I just am curious if any concrete figures are known.
/r/MensRights17/04/12 02:36 AM
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Sometimes a thing needs to be said in a way that turns heads Isn't this, in effect, exactly how radfems defend the SCUM manifesto and the writings of Dworkin. "It was all hyperbole, used to bring attention to the issues". WE. CANNOT. BECOME. THEM. Once more - "He who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster."
/r/MensRights10/04/12 05:29 AM
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Are men vipers, unable to control themselves? We treat animals different from people. I do not expect a wild Bear to respect my rights to walk in the woods alone at night, i demand people do, and if they don't, they should be held accountable. Deserve is not the right sentiment. RAPE IS NOT A PUNISHMENT TO METE OUT TO "WICKED" WOMEN. If I go walking down a poorly lit street in the bad part of town, alone, at night, I'm not being safe, and someone should tell me I'm not being safe. But do I deser…
/r/MensRights10/04/12 04:46 AM
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Fuck this. I normally like Paul Elam, but this is fucked up. THIS is misogyny. THIS does not make schools fairer for boys. THIS does not roll back harms done to due process by feminist-driven legislation in cases of sexual assault. THIS does not advance the cause of Fathers being screwed over by the family court system. THIS inexcuseable rant gives easy sound bytes to destroy us with. THIS gives groups like the SPLC easy fodder to defend why they call us a hate group and don't take us seriously.…
/r/MensRights10/04/12 04:18 AM
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There are people who hate women in the MRA ranks. There are people who hate men in the ranks of the feminists. Both sides have people who are genuinely interested in equality, and both sides have people who are interested in favoritism/preferencial treatment. What I would ask you, is what harm has come to women from the MRA movement? What laws or societal attitudes that are an injustice to women stem from the MRA movement? Now, what harm has come to men and boys from the feminist movement? Let's…
/r/MensRights30/03/12 05:52 PM
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I'm not sure I agree with this article. The author's stance is that it is feminist because it portrays females as physically capable of beating up larger males. I would posit admitting and displaying females as being as violent and capable of killing males as vice-versa is not in line with current feminist ideology. Feminism seems determined to beat the drum of women being incapable of violence, and therefore, are always victims of male aggressors in cases of domestic violence. Even beyond this …
/r/MensRights26/03/12 01:17 AM
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It's not and never has been about what's wrong or right with women. It's about leveling the inequalities in society and law. Every woman, like every man, is different and deserves to be judged on their own merit. There is no "perfect woman", for me. I just want a balanced field to play the game of life on.
/r/MensRights16/03/12 01:20 PM
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I wonder if the esteemed governor knows he's engaged in activity that apparently is now that of Hate Groups, like us ebil, ebil MensRighters.
/r/MensRights09/03/12 06:49 PM
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Since no one has done this yet- Original Post: original thread: [1] http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/qhg7p/what_do_i_tell_my_son_he_beat_the_living_shit_out/ Full disclosure: I subscribe to the old fashioned notion that one ought to be completely against any violence against women except in exceedingly rare circumstances that warrant it. I am frankly shocked by the number of people who think it is okay to react to verbal teasing with violence, especially against a girl. On one hand, I …
/r/MensRights05/03/12 04:58 PM
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I, like almost everyone, have been bullied before, mostly verbally. Looking at these things in retrospect, they aren't a big deal. If you think it wasn't a big deal, you weren't really bullied. I'm sorry, but everyone gets an occasional snide comment directed at them at school. It's not the same as a constant pattern of attack. I was bullied in school, and it was hell. Day in, day out, teasing, taunting, being laughed at, constantly. If it didn't haunt you, if you could brush it off, you weren't…
/r/MensRights05/03/12 04:55 PM
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I agree. Although we welcome dissenting opinions, unlike, oh, say, SRS, QwestionEveryPost makes little effort to add to any discussion, uses inflammatory and insulting language (such as the aforementioned MRApist), and is generally trolling. I like being a subreddit that welcomes dissent and discussion. But openly allowing trolls to come in and keep spitting in our face is a bit too much.
/r/MensRights21/02/12 08:23 PM
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/r/MensRights21/02/12 03:32 PM
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OHHHH, BURNNNN! I don't really expect any better from SRS trolls in terms of meaningful content or adding to a genuine discussion. But usually, i thought higher of SRS than simply going with a response that evokes a THATSTHEJOKE.jpg response. You came into a thread where we're discussing how easily men are looked at with suspicion when our S.O.s have visible injuries, despite those injuries having naught to do with us, and you "wittily" come in and draw that exact connection. Congratulations, yo…
/r/MensRights21/02/12 04:21 AM
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Has happened to me. My wife accidentally fell and gave herself a black eye. We had a trip planned, so the next day, we were at the airport, black eye and all. We got stopped by airport police, who asked my wife about 8 million times if she was "Sure" she was all right and didn't need help, all the while gving me the stink eye. And needless say, her giving the supposedly textbook abuse victim response of "I fell" only triggered them more. They eventually left us alone after my wife started gettin…
/r/MensRights20/02/12 11:17 PM
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Well yeah, because feminism wants to castrate every man everywhere. is a complete non-sequitur in response to: If the man fights back in any way, verbal or physical, he's looking at jail time. Now, you challenged men to: speak up more often, man up and take responsibility for being assaulted. No means no, how is she going to know you want her to stop unless you tell her to? And we responded by telling you that following your advice will often get the man, the victim, arrested. Do you have any ac…
/r/MensRights20/02/12 12:29 AM
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I would, however, call the cops if I thought it was necessary. Sadly, there are many areas of the U.S. where if you called the cops in this exact situation, they'd be more likely to arrest the man, regardless of who was hitting who.
/r/MensRights19/02/12 04:34 PM
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The road to where Feminism is now, in regards to shaping often-times misandrist legislation, was a long one. One might ponder if one of the first steps that led down this path was refusing to acknowledge or correct the misandry in it's ranks. I do not want to be just like them, but with US in charge. I don't want to see misogynist laws get passed to "punish" the women for what's been done to men. I don't want to make up for lost time. I simply want equal. And to get there, I believe we have to s…
/r/MensRights15/02/12 05:08 AM
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Because men are not women? Can't this very argument be used by feminists to justify family courts that favor mothers over fathers, a draft that only targets men, and gender-discriminatory bills such as VAWA? We will never reverse these horrible policies until we achieve equality.
/r/MensRights14/02/12 10:04 PM
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I agree that traditionalism is shitty for men, too. So why advocate for that rather than equality?
/r/MensRights14/02/12 05:57 PM
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I'll also point out that you are the same guy who thinks MRAs are "male supremacists" This is bullshit. I called JerermiahMRA/Demonspawn, and their ilk, the ones who by their own words call for a return to "Traditionalism", male supremacists. MRAs are fighting for equality. The ones I call male supremacist routinely tell me that equality is impossible and a destructive dream. but when people attack men's rights as a group by focusing on individuals, the correct strategy is to correctly point out…
/r/MensRights14/02/12 11:38 AM
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Isn't one of the things we loathe about the feminist movement their lack of recognition and handling of misandry within their movement? By pretending we have no misogynists here, by refusing to acknowledge their existence, we take one more step towards becoming what we oppose. I will continue to call out misogyny in our ranks, because it is that, and not our fight against it, that makes us weak.
/r/MensRights14/02/12 02:08 AM
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you could make cats look smarter than humans Given most people and most cats I've known in my life so far, this would not be a stretch. At all.
/r/MensRights11/02/12 01:55 PM
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Even then, our "Rape Culture" was alive and condoning rape, certainly not whipping themselves into a Witch-Hunting, Misandrist frenzy without even a shred of evidence or anything. Yep, those skateboarding boys sure got the benefit of all this "Rape Culture" that encourages and excuses rape, amirite?! /sarcasm
/r/MensRights10/02/12 03:43 PM
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Excellent news! I wish I could have seen it (words I've never spoken about a high school play before). I think this is the kind of thing we need to advance awareness about the true nature of DV. No matter how feminists want to paint DV as always male on female, the avalanche of information is closing in proving that it's a lot closer to 50/50.
/r/MensRights10/02/12 04:43 AM
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La Leche League Intl. is an International group that is trying to encourage breastfeeding and minimize formula. If you want to bring this argument here, I'd be more than happy to pick it up with you. However, LLL has never been anti-male, and until you provide me with a source documenting them being so, I call you out. This article assumes any pro-breastfeeding group must be anti-male, and I don't buy it. They are 100% pro-breastfeeding, but the mother using the pump and the father feeding breas…
/r/MensRights10/02/12 04:34 AM
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When did the MRM become anti-breastfeeding? I saw an anti-breastfeeding link here a day or so ago as well. Are we really going to oppose breastfeeding because it's all, y'know, Woman-y? Edit: And by the way, La Leche League is vilified by many feminists. LLL and mainstream feminism have been at odds for years. The message that women should breastfeed is seen as running counter to wanting mothers back in the workplace. So painting LLL with the ebil, ebil FEMINISM brush is dishonest.
/r/MensRights10/02/12 04:26 AM
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I've heard demon say many times we can't go back. It hasn't stopped him from advocating just that. Read his post history again. Here, from Demonspawn himself: I believe that we cannot remove male dispoability without destroying society. The only possible solution for "equality" is to drop women down to men's level of disposability. Women will not accept this (nor will most men). What alternative is remaining? Return to what works: traditional gender roles where men and women both have duties and…
/r/MensRights08/02/12 10:44 PM
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History be damned. I think everyone deserves the same opportunities, I think the laws should be applied to everyone evenly. What does that have to do with believing or not believing a revisionist history. Maybe things were great for everyone in the 1800s. Maybe they were shitty for everyone. I don't know, and it's irrelevant to me. What's important to me is that no one deserves to have a leg up or a starting handicap just because of how they were born. No one.
/r/MensRights08/02/12 05:56 PM
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And getting handed a "different" role based on your birth gender, your race, your religion, is bullshit. Different will never be equal, not to everyone. Only men being drafted is bullshit, and I will fight against it - we either draft everyone, or we draft no one. And don't tell me I only see the rich and powerful - I'm not some feminist apologist. Areas where men get the shaft are my main concern... that's why I'm here. The path backwards to "Traditionalism" is backwards - it only keeps the str…
/r/MensRights08/02/12 05:38 PM
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I've read the mularkey people like you are spewing. You can believe a society where people are all treated the same under the law and society judges based on action a destructive utopian fantasy. I don't care, it's what i believe and what i will fight for. What you advocate isn't Men's Rights. It's Male Supremacy. I'm not a male supremacist, I'm an egalitarian. I will fight against discriminatory laws and policies such as VAWA and the female-dominated public school system, I will call out femini…
/r/MensRights08/02/12 05:32 PM
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Traditionalism was horrible for men. They were treated like expendable cogs. Why would I ever want to advocate for it? I agree. As you can see, I was quoting our esteemed friend Demonspawn who seems to be defending traditionalism.
/r/MensRights08/02/12 05:16 PM
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I'm sorry, I gotta speak up. I think the path of "The past wasn't nearly so bad as you whiny feminists make it sound like" is a dead end for the MR movement. Women were not allowed to vote, women were not respected as fully thinking human beings compared to men. Regardless, comments like: When you learn real history, traditionalism becomes a lot less "shocking" and "wrong" Are tailor made for those who constantly decry we wish to "preserve male privilege". We must move forward. I don't want wome…
/r/MensRights08/02/12 05:02 PM
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MRA and Lactivist here. Not sure hating on breastfeeding necessarily makes you misogynist, that word is thrown around way too much. But you should mind your own business about it. We truly need to encourage women to breastfeed, and relegating them to dirty bathroom stalls is not warranted just to satisify your own prudish mindset. In the end, this is not a MR issue, and really doesn't belong here.
/r/MensRights06/02/12 05:54 PM
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Personal experience is personal experience. Mine is the opposite, I know plenty of men who's wives nag incessantly. Just because it's on tv doesn't mean it never happens.
/r/MensRights24/01/12 07:56 PM
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True. I guess it would come down to whether it was more the dumbass White Knight being coerced into the attack ("Are you gonna let another man do that to your girl?!?") or did he just get it into his own head to take him some "Street justice".
/r/MensRights21/01/12 12:26 AM
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Way too lenient a sentence. This kind of White-Knight bullshit needs to be punished way more severely. And what about punishment for the lying woman who started the mess? She deserved penalties for this too - her lies were the catalyst for this event.
/r/MensRights20/01/12 10:27 PM
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If you're not here for equality, why are you here? The only other reason I could see is you want male supremacy. Are you a male supremacist?
/r/MensRights20/01/12 10:15 PM
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Hyperbole, the crutch of those who have no argument. - JeremiahMRA Your naive ideals result only in the destruction of civilization - JeremiahMRA
/r/MensRights20/01/12 08:34 PM
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Depends, do you want a functional society or not? Where have I heard this sort of language before? Hmm... oh yeah! I've heard some feminists point out that due to biological reasons, society is better off with disposable men. Keeping a few around for procreation is necessary, but men dying off early due to war/aggressive behavior/taking risky jobs benefits society. It's all bullshit. A society where men and women are treated equally is possible. Using "It's best for society" to defend an inequal…
/r/MensRights20/01/12 04:41 PM
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This is outstanding work. The education system is so dominated by women and geared exclusively towards girls in methods, goals, and funding. More men involved in younger education can only help bring some equality to the school system. Maybe they can work on a similar program for the US. But I'm sure the NEA dictatorship would never allow it.
/r/MensRights20/01/12 04:15 PM
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TIL... that if women are allowed to explore their own sexuality with multiple partners without being massively shamed for it, the world will end and we will all die. ಠ_ಠ Amazing.
/r/MensRights20/01/12 04:08 PM
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You think men and women behave exactly the same under all situations? No, I think we all act differently. But neither men nor women should be judged as a class by different standards. Judging women with multiple standards as "Sluts" and men with different standards as "studs" is ridiculous. Hardly. But I don't expect a blank slate liberal idiot like you to understand. You're making some pretty big assumptions about me that aren't remotely true. We shame men like we shame women: for violating the…
/r/MensRights20/01/12 04:03 PM
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Seriously? You guys really are defending a blatant double standard? Multiple partners is cool for guys, but totally not for women? This is blowing my mind. One of the things I see thrown at the Men's Rights movement from feminists is the charge that the MRM is just trying to preserve male privlege, and isn't actually about equality. I always would roll my eyes, knowing I had never seen an example of that. Today, I am proven wrong.
/r/MensRights20/01/12 03:43 PM
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Regardless of your motivations, your attitude goes against the issue of equality. I want every person judged only on their actions, and not have it be based on their race, religio, or gender. Regardless of why you think women should be made to be less promiscuous and men allowed more, it's a double standard, and I will not accept it. Equality or death, my friend. I demand that men and women be treated the same as groups.
/r/MensRights20/01/12 05:28 AM
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Am I? Look, I think we all know that no, not all women who commit crimes get away with it. Some do get punished. But statistically, they do get shorter sentences for the same crime (taking criminal record into account), and there have been a number of cases using the "battered woman" defense, which this case seems to be a particularly wide extension of. Somehow, because she was sexually harassed at work, a stranger looking at her deserved to go to the hospital, with no repercussions? This is lun…
/r/MensRights17/01/12 12:19 AM
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Why do women even get lawyers? Simply call themselves to the stand, cry while they spin a tale of abuse at the hands of evil men (whether those particular men were the victims or not), and walk free. Throw a glass at someone so they get hurt need to go the hospital? "I was abused." Shoot your husband in his sleep? "I was abused."
/r/MensRights16/01/12 08:53 PM
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Do we need to have quotas? Is every war movie ever made misandrist? How about every murder mystery where the killer murders only women - is the movie misogynist? How about a movie about football - like the longest yard. All the violence done in the movie is against men. Is it misandry?
/r/MensRights14/01/12 12:15 AM
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Nononono... we are not going to start taking offense at every televised act of violence against men, are we? Would that make movies like Rambo the most misandrist of all time? Is any violence against any male in any media unacceptable? There is nothing here making the violence specifically male targetted. If we accept that this is misandrist, then is no violence in any movie, game, or show acceptable? This doesn't belong here. If it does, the whole of hollywood belongs here for every violent mov…
/r/MensRights13/01/12 10:14 PM
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I feel very weird making this distinction, considering myself an MRA and general enemy of the SRS brigade, but /shitredditsays is just a circle-jerk, dissent is not welcome, and will get you banned. However, /SRSDisucssion features many of the same people, and debate is welcomed there. So if you're anxious to cross words in a setting where you won't be immediately banned for dissent, head to /SRSDiscussion. God, I feel dirty now. I need a shower. *Note -I'm not trying to promote either subreddit…
/r/MensRights13/01/12 03:54 PM
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The wage gap myth is used as one of the main sources of inequalities to men and boys in forced hiring practices (affirmative action) and education (the constant push to spend even more money and give even more focus to girls in our schools despite them already obliterating boys academically at every level). Discussing how much of this is misguided (those who believe the myth, and think these outrageously unfair policies are combating an inequality) and how much malicious (those who know, but pus…
/r/MensRights12/01/12 04:42 PM
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I do remember there being doubt, and even enough that the verdict was suspect. But while we obviously have no power to detain of free anyone here at /MR, unlike a court and jury, are we not passing our own judgment with a headline proclaiming her a false rape accuser? There is doubt to many that Tyson raped her, but that certainly doesn't prove her a false rape accuser.
/r/MensRights01/01/12 02:46 PM
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I'm sorry, is there evidence that Desiree Washington was a false rape accuser? The OP's subject line seems a little biased. Maybe I missed some information along the way (please educate me if I did), but I don't remember where we found out Tyson's accuser was lying.
/r/MensRights01/01/12 07:12 AM
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Is there a difference between calling a woman out for having a double standard or being sexist and calling every woman who we disagree with a cunt? I've used this analogy before, I'll try again. If you are arguing against something race related a black person (and you yourself, for this example, are white), you might be considered un-pc simply for your view.. If so, fuck 'em, if that's your view point, stick to your guns. However, the moment you start your argument with "Look, Nigger..." you hav…
/r/MensRights31/12/11 06:23 PM
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Yep, I came here for the SHITTHATDIDNTHAPPEN.jpg from the SRS brigade. News Agency? didnthappen.gif Police Report? Didnthappen.txt Like all things that show even 1 woman in a bad light, I'm sure it simply didn't happen, according to the SRS brigade.
/r/MensRights31/12/11 02:46 AM
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It's all because men are lazy and only play video games! It's got nothing to do with years of the public education system being tailored completely to the strengths of girls, at the expense of boys, with almost all typically "boy" behavior being labeled as deviant. And certainly not the huge funding disparity between programs aimed at girls and programs aimed at boys. Nope. None of that. It's all because boys are stupid and lazy.
/r/MensRights29/12/11 05:12 PM
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Not to rain on the parade, here, but "Hey, Joe" was a damn big hit, and there wasn't a whole lot of righteous anger about it. It's a song, and again, if you object to this song, you must equally object to Hey, Joe and want that enshrined in the hall of bigotry - otherwise, once more, you are playing that fun game "It's only wrong when THEY do it." - a game I will not have any part of.
/r/MensRights28/12/11 06:50 PM
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Um, duh... Domestic Violence is what men to do to women - our Vice President has made that very, very clear on multiple occasions.
/r/MensRights28/12/11 12:51 AM
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The fact that you would have to appeal to this bunch to not use the word "Cunt" when trying to convince someone in a rational argument about the non-oppressed status of women in our culture sadden me. You're right, it's a necessary warning. But it still saddens me that so many here don't understand or care how we come off to others throwing around slurs like that. Don't we have enough rational and logical points, enough eloquent spokesmen that can poke holes in feminist theory, that the name cal…
/r/MensRights26/12/11 10:46 PM
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The point we are trying to make with such comparisons is based on the fact that our society currently finds mistreatment and mocking of men completely acceptable in a way it doesn't for other "groups" of people. Often people dismiss anything negative happening to men as irrelevant because "patriarchy!" or deserved, because the evil men have brought it all upon themselves. By switching the group identified in the offensive words or actions, it is easier for many to see just how the treatment if o…
/r/MensRights22/12/11 11:59 PM
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I love the complete and total victim mentality of feminists. Similar to sentiment I've seen any number of places, feminists claim men constantly try to silence their voices and curtail free speech. Hugo himself, from the linked article: Kevin’s gag with the football helmet was designed to send a signal about women and anger. The message he wanted to send was, as he told me later, that “feminists take things too seriously and get too aggressive.” The message he actually sent was that men will go …
/r/MensRights22/12/11 03:43 AM
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This is an excellent article. Thank you for bringing it to our attention here, and I send a huge thank you to Barbara Kay for writing it.
/r/MensRights21/12/11 03:31 PM
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Just so everyone knows, AmazingPerson(the OP of this thread) is an /SRS regular and here to troll us. Please avoid feeding the troll.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 02:57 PM
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I demand pictures of the cat before i decide whether to apply for residence or not.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 03:53 AM
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This whole thread is MANSPLAINING! Woohoo! I also used a feminism keyword, I automatically win any debate without having to use logic or facts!!! TAKE THAT!
/r/MensRights10/12/11 12:42 AM
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Excellent news! It's good to see when we can get a victory for the treatment of men in this society.
/r/MensRights10/12/11 12:37 AM
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Gender-related humor?! I'll bet there's a registry somewhere for obvious bigots and hate-spreaders like this.
/r/MensRights09/12/11 05:51 PM
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Overall though I'd say if we edit content to please people, we are rewarding them for criticizing us. If it has merit or adds to our discussion of men's rights issues and the war with out of control feminism, then fuck pleasing people. IF they don't like our cause, our ideas, screw it. But we don't need to host things simply because they piss off our detractors. I argue heavily that Men's Rights is not inherently, by definition, misogynist - we are fighting for equality, not superiority. The mor…
/r/MensRights09/12/11 05:40 PM
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In my opinion, this does the opposite. When curious people come here to see if we're really as bad as many make us out to be, the more random "Women are Stupid!" type stuff we have on here, the more likely they are to shake their heads and say "Yep, those people were right, those /MR guys really are just the he-man woman hating club."
/r/MensRights09/12/11 04:05 PM
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I'm not demanding it be torn down immediately. I'm not demanding the author be tarred and feathered. I'm asking why this is here? What does this have to do with Men's Rights?
/r/MensRights09/12/11 03:59 PM
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Why is this here? Who the hell is upvoting this? /MR is not the storehouse for random misogyny! Yes, stupid women exist. So do stupid men. We fight for men's rights here. Feminism run amok is our target. But just a "Women are dumb" blog? Really?
/r/MensRights09/12/11 03:32 PM
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I agree our child support system is unjust. But I don't believe child support is akin to your internet bill. And at No child support order is just, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. Now, given what the OP stated in his response to me, I have a bigger problem with the warrant being issued in the first place than the serving of the warrant. I think holding men to support amounts they cannot afford when they are unemployed is disgraceful and abusive. I also know the system is incredibly…
/r/MensRights08/12/11 05:47 PM
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I'm not a huge fan of police, and the state of the family court system and child support in general is outrageous. But if they had a warrant for you, they can come in and get you. If you don't mind me prying, before we get all worked up about this, is there any background? Do you feel the child support order against you is unjust? Do you dispute the paternity of the child? Have you been ordered to pay more than you can afford? If this happened to you because of an unjust child support order, the…
/r/MensRights08/12/11 05:16 PM
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MR has had enough of your annoying preaching. Who in the blue hell made you the official spokesman of MR?
/r/MensRights06/12/11 07:41 PM
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The irony is that SRS's biggest problem with this should be that someone's muscling in on their territory. Decrying humor as normalizing violence is SRS's schtick, and JtO is now robbing their playbook, with the unique, never before heard reasoning of "Society actually does hate US, so jokes against US are serious, unlike humor aimed at others" "He who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster."
/r/MensRights06/12/11 07:39 PM
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This is bizarre. For nearly the entire article, it seems a decent, even-handed presentation and weighing of evidence from both sides. Acknowledgment of studies and statistics that at least give room for the possibility that the protesting groups have a valid concern are given. And then the piece inexplicably ends with: Because guys never any commit crimes. What. The. FUCK. How deep in his ass did the author have to go to dig this out?! Nowhere does any group suggest men are blameless or never co…
/r/MensRights06/12/11 07:26 PM
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I didn't think they were a joke - I really liked what they did. Until this episode. When you dare step away from their hivemind, if you dare disagree, it's like the worst of feminism. Conform or be shamed. The amount of goonery being displayed here is sickening. You need to answer that one or just STFU. This is the problem with people like you. You are absolutely clueless -presumably by choice - about the way the world operates. Male targeting violence persists and escalates because in the uncon…
/r/MensRights06/12/11 05:27 PM
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Male targeting violence persists and escalates because in the unconscious reptile corner of men’s minds, they think nodding along with whatever vile , violent, murderous shit the nearest vacuous barbie utters in her you-go-girl bubble of social enablement might get him approved for access to the magic vagina. So, the only reason we object is because we're all White Knighting. We all secretly think we've got a chance with Ms. Heigl, or at least our defense of her is solely to impress some woman s…
/r/MensRights06/12/11 05:13 PM
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This is blue pill thinking. It’s what we’re here to destroy. The overwhelming condemnation of Heigl’s listing is proof that what we’re doing is right and necessary. So anyone who disagrees with you is no TRUE MRA, huh? Nice. Way to stick to the arguments. Not to mention, in previous listings, the people complaining about them and doing the hand-wringing were not US. If you can't differentiate between the rest of the world complaining and a majority of those here saying something is wrong, you've…
/r/MensRights06/12/11 03:12 PM
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I've read about 2/3 of the comments in this thread - more than half of which express dissapointment or opposition to the listing of Heigl on register-her. Meanwhile - we have a recent episode of daytime talk show treating real occurrences of male targeted sexual mutilation as hilariously funny. Osbourne was making fun of a real incident, with a real victim. It is the crux of what is different about a joke. None of us (or not very many) think making jokes about actual female victims of violence a…
/r/MensRights06/12/11 06:21 AM
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If her lawyer pulls out the magic "she was abused" card, and she walks free because of it, I'll stand with you shouting "double standard!" But for right now, she's facing the right charges, and I don't see a brigade of "You go grrl!" comments on this so far. Let's save the outrage for the outrageous. Her act was outrageous, but the justice system has not been (so far).
/r/MensRights05/12/11 06:16 PM
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Fair enough. I will try to find more anti-male jokesters on reddit, we can throw them all in the registry. And now, the next time feminiists rage at a rape joke, we'd better be right there raging with them, as all humor that doesn't please us must be hate speech. Sadly, since we usually, as a movement, aren't on the "humor is bad" bandwagon, we're going to come off as the guy who loves all racist and ethnic humor... until someone tells a joke about his ethnicity, and then he goes apeshit. Rape j…
/r/MensRights05/12/11 03:51 PM
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Seriously, remove her from the registry. This was obvious humor, and having her on the list for this completely shreds whatever credibility the list was generating. I'm very, very unhappy at seeing her entry on the registry. This needs to be fixed.
/r/MensRights05/12/11 03:34 PM
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I appreciate the submission. But I dislike this poem for two reasons. First, it reminds me too much of Feminists who celebrate Empowerful Goddess Wymyn with poetry and praise of their "inherently awesome" gender. I don't want to celebrate boys and men as being inherently awesome. Some people are assholes. Some are saints. Some sacrifice for others, some use others for their own gain. I want society and the laws that rule it to treat everyone as an equal individual, based on their actions and cha…
/r/MensRights28/11/11 09:37 PM
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I think we're being trolled. A ton of MRA's detractors like to paint us as guys that want to shove the women out of the voting both and out of the workplace. This article blatantly advocates for women to not work and be a homemaker. There is nothing wrong with stay-at-home moms, but there is also nothing wrong with women working. I think this troll is looking to see if they can goad any of us into a "Yeah! Get back into the Kitchen!" moment so they can run to /SRS or someplace similar with it.
/r/MensRights27/11/11 03:29 PM
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I am sorry you are getting downvoted Water off a duck's back, my friend.
/r/MensRights23/11/11 10:10 PM
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I'm sorry, and i'll get downvoted to hell here, but I'm really getting tired of this shit. This issue is not a Men's Rights issue, continually gives fodder to our critics that we're all closed-minded bigots, and divides our community for no real purpose HERE. (Maybe there's a place for this discussion, but not here). The insistence of this issue coming up over and over and over and FUCKING OVER is striking me odd. Those of you bringing this subject up insist you're not homophobes/transphobes. An…
/r/MensRights23/11/11 08:09 PM
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I'm definitely more meaning it in a satirical way. I wouldn't try to present it as actual fact. As I said, the goal would be to draw attention to the lies currently spread as "Truth" by the current feminist-serving establishments.
/r/MensRights23/11/11 06:37 PM
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Hitler had goals and ambitions, and worked very hard, and nearly accomplished them. Despite this, I'll not be using him as a role model.
/r/MensRights18/11/11 03:30 PM
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Some of her points are a little misguided. But I detected no misandry there. She actually went out of her way to point out a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation society puts men in: When a man asks what you want to do on a date, it’s because he wants to be sure you enjoy yourself. We think it’s because he’s lazy or doesn’t care. Quite the opposite. It’s because he wants to please you, and the best way to do that is for him to have you pick your pleasure. If the man chooses the date's…
/r/MensRights13/11/11 04:25 PM
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I hate having to explain something like this, but.... For those of you not getting it, this piece is obvious satire. While the story is legit (as in it really happened, not that it's condoned or approved of), Elam is making his point that unlike the reaction some women (Sharon Osbourne and the women laughing with her, various "feminist" bloggers) had to stories of men having their genitals attacked, there have been no mens groups to applaud this action, no MRA's out there congratulating this man…
/r/MensRights10/11/11 07:02 PM
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My "Massive Fucking Troll" alarm is blaring very loudly when reading that article. I think some 2-bit hack wanted some more hits, and controversy is way, way easier than quality or meaning.
/r/MensRights08/11/11 11:31 PM
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I have mixed feelings about the overall effect of this. On one hand, yes, family courts and the child support system practically enslave men, and those without resources will be made indentured servants in a system that greatly favors women. I applaud this man taking action to help 5 (presumably) wrongfully identified men escape 18 years of financial servitude. But this is in no way how MR takes off. This action nearly feeds in to the feminist trope that MRAs are all deadbeats trying to get out …
/r/MensRights08/11/11 05:17 AM
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You honestly can't tell the difference between "Having this discussion here makes us look like homophobes" and "You're a homophobe"? And I'm the dumb one? Edit - Notice I haven't even given my FUCKING OPINION on the subject. I even said it's worth discussion. Somewhere. But I'm saying that when this discussion happens HERE, in /MR, we come off as looking homophobic/transphobic.
/r/MensRights05/11/11 05:48 PM
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I guess it's also technically correct that the same thing could happen with a woman as well THIS is my point. Any straight person could potentially be in this situation with a trans person. Men or Women. As I said above, there is room to discuss this, but not HERE. THIS ISSUE IS NOT A MENS RIGHTS ISSUE.
/r/MensRights05/11/11 04:22 PM
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I didn't call anyone a homophobe. I said arguing that here, in a space dedicated to men's rights, makes us look like homophobes. It doesn't belong here. So no, I didn't call you a homophobe. If you're begging for an ad-hom, though, I'll be glad to personally call you out for having low or selective reading comprehension.
/r/MensRights05/11/11 04:15 PM
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Can we not bring up this shit again? I understand there are social principals involved, and there is a discussion to be had on the subject of "Disclosure", but it's not a Men's Rights issue, and arguing it here under the guise of "Men have a RIGHT to know" makes us look like homophobes.
/r/MensRights05/11/11 03:26 PM
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He had been holding it together a little better. But looking at the last 24 hours or so, when this (now obviously a troll) poster realized the jig was up, and went full retard. So even my comment above how this person was making decent, insightful posts can be pointed to as "See what the MR folks are really like?!" - which is clearly what this troll had been intending since the start.
/r/MensRights05/11/11 01:29 PM
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I hate bannings, but i think this was the right decision. The account was very new, and spent all it's time between coming here and making decent, insightful posts to build up rep with us, and then the rest of the time making batshit crazy anti-semitic and racist posts on other subreddits while "representing MR". It was either a troll (my guess), or a genuinely insane racist who happened to share some of our views on MR.
/r/MensRights05/11/11 12:34 AM
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Yep, I had already seen the redditnotevenonce account was new, but i hadn't realized that the texaswildfires accound was new. This is definitely a concerted trolling effort by both accounts.
/r/MensRights03/11/11 06:19 PM
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ooh, you're right... didn't realize texaswildfires was only 6 days old... people, we are being MASSIVELY TROLLED here.
/r/MensRights03/11/11 06:02 PM
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You've put us in a hell of a position, imo, texaswildfires. Your point here is well taken, and relevant to our interests. But your Farrakhan. You're the Grand Wizard of the KKK. You're a political endorsement from David Duke. I agree with Zykos about judging each submission on it's own merit, but calling troll on someone pointing out your own evil, ridiculous posting history isn't gonna fly with me. No, hating dogs because Hitler liked them doesn't make sense, but on the other hand, do you invit…
/r/MensRights03/11/11 05:08 PM
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WTF is with this anti-semitism on this board?!?! Are you FUCKHOLES trying to kill /MR? Do you WANT more bad pub?! Any of you who have a problem with Jews (or blacks, or Asians, or Muslims, or Hispanics, etc) TAKE THAT SHIT TO A DIFFERENT SUBREDDIT. And also, DIE IN A FUCKING FIRE while you're there.
/r/MensRights03/11/11 04:59 PM
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So, I'll start with the disclaimers: What this guy did is wrong, and he deserves whatever legal punishment he is given. But before we all line up to drop a few more elbows on his smoldering corpse, lets look at what happened. He was scared and depressed, and did not want to commit his son to the misery he was about to endure. He was not someone killing an infant because it cut into his party-time lifestyle. He didn't abandon the kid because he wanted more time for fishing. He thought his son wou…
/r/MensRights03/11/11 03:55 AM
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If you think there are misogynists here can you please not do the exact damn thing I'm complaining about and instead provide some evidence. other than that, good comment. Fishing out specific examples from the past is tantamount to calling someone out personally, and I think most of us are trying to avoid that. Calling them out at the time so they can respond in a timely fashion is one thing, but dredging up history is a different kettle of fish. Anyone who spends time here will see some misogyn…
/r/MensRights02/11/11 04:19 PM
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Oh god, aren't we always? Wahhhh, I want to see my kids. Wahhhh, I don't like being raped. Don't forget.. "Wah, I don't think gendercide is an appropriate solution to the problems of the world"
/r/MensRights31/10/11 12:07 AM
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It's already up on AMR. Apparantly, we're just whining.
/r/MensRights31/10/11 12:00 AM
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But, you see, due to the patriarchy controlling the economy for the benefit of all men (even homeless men, those oppressive, privileged bastards!), any woman cannot really be responsible for her own choices, and therefore, all prostitutes, as well as female porn stars and strippers, are slaves and victims! /This is actually very much real feminist theory. I sometimes try to use some hyperbole and exaggerate feminist views for effect, but this time, this is pretty much a parrot of things I've rea…
/r/MensRights28/10/11 11:14 PM
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But isn't cheating at games a way to assert dominance and privilege over someone - bending the rules to your whim, as a dominant male?! You see, his cheating at Monopoly was abuse, and as a battered woman, I demand Ms. Chavez be released immediately and Mr, Smith be arrested for his heinous crimes against such a poor, poor victim.
/r/MensRights28/10/11 09:06 PM
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What I really love about this article is the assumption you're supposed to come in with that girls are just much better, smarter, more ambitious and accomplished then boys. That's the "given" premise this article works under. Young women spend all their free hours at the local soup kitchen in order to get into a college so they can have a better future while all the young men "devote to the gym or to playing Call of Duty". Must be awesome to be an automatically superior, empowerful, goddess-womY…
/r/MensRights27/10/11 02:05 PM
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The trolls of r/mensrights do not cherry pick individual posts and generalize about an entire subreddit from them.
/r/MensRights27/10/11 11:41 AM
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Someone I know is actually terrified of being around small children because of the fear of a false accusation. Where I'm from, we have a word for people who should be afraid of being around small children from fear of false accusation - they're called "Men".
/r/MensRights23/10/11 04:46 PM
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At the time i read this, I upvoted this comment back to 1. So it had been downvoted. Did we really downvote someone who came to say they agreed with our assesment that this is messed up, and presented how this sort of misandry also harms women by trying to make them afraid of all men - simply because she identified as a feminist? We can do better, /MR. You may consider the movement of feminism our enemy, but to simply downvote an individual who came here to post something like this - agreement, …
/r/MensRights23/10/11 03:56 AM
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I agree completely! Look at that evil oppressor! I can tell he's MANSPLAINING something to those girls right when this picture was taken!
/r/MensRights22/10/11 04:11 AM
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I'm the one who originally objected to use of the word. I'm not the PC police. I don't care if this woman is offended or "scared" of us big, mean men using an angry word. It's about perception. Whether there's the same level of history behind Cunt that there is behind Nigger or Kike does not change what our society's perception of the word is. Society views it as largely the same, and the reaction of a majority of people in our culture will react to calling a Woman a Cunt in a similar manner of …
/r/MensRights20/10/11 03:46 PM
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i undertsand your sentiment, and i respect the opinion, but a spade MUST be called a spade. allowing them to have an off-limits word while we have no such equivalent just adds to the sexism. I dislike to the core the message of hate Louis Farrakhan is famous for. If I respond to one of his pieces by calling him a "fucking Nigger", how does that make me look?
/r/MensRights20/10/11 05:40 AM
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NONONO and no! This woman is wrong, her statistics are a lie and a smear, and she is a bigot. But we cannot respond to bigots and slurs with bigotry and slurs. She's a jerk, and an asshole. See... I'm not even above simple namecalling, especially when deserved. But calling a woman a CUNT makes US look like the assholes.
/r/MensRights20/10/11 03:25 AM
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The good news is, if you're a young male, you likely won't even get into college! See, thanks to our wonderfully sexist education system, where spending on girls outstrips spending on boys by a ridiculous margin despite girls academic dominance, and a system tailor-made to girls strengths run completely by a female-dominated system of teachers and administrators, most of our school-age boys will be kept safe from the chances of being kangaroo-courted on rape charges by not getting anywhere near …
/r/MensRights17/10/11 05:22 PM
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I hate this case. On the one hand, two drunk women who assumed (correctly) that they can be violent and not be held accountable to the same level as a man, also assumed (incorreectly) they could start violence and not get hit back. Where the issue gets murky is that the cashier used a weapon, and after his attackers were down, kept savagely beating them. I'm all for using appropriate force for self defense. But even if his attackers were male, I think most people would agree that continuing to b…
/r/MensRights17/10/11 04:22 PM
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Saving men is clearly not important to society. Our pure, innocent, never-lying, empowerful goddess-wymyn deserve to be saved much, much more than us rapist-in-waiting, oppressor, abuser, obsolete, lazy, shiftless men, who don't count as real people anyway.
/r/MensRights16/10/11 09:16 PM
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When those who oppose your views have to invoke their power and privlege rather than let you espouse your view, it's further proof to the validity of your views. The more they censor and define us their terms, the more justified and correct we become.
/r/MensRights16/10/11 09:13 PM
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The definition of comedy is "Tragedy happening to other people"
/r/MensRights16/10/11 03:33 PM
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This was a very poor example, AnnArchist. This was someone being discriminated against due to being homosexual. It's appalling, and I will fight against this kind of thing until I die. But it was not a men's rights issue - that kind of bible-thumping crowd would have pounced on a lesbian couple with the same fervor, I promise you. I will go all broken-record again, and say, an example where LBGT issues intersect ours is with laws like VAWA. Since the law is pre-defining special laws for violence…
/r/MensRights13/10/11 07:36 PM
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Sure, I get that, just like /MR does not necessarily reflect the views of every Mens Right's group in the world. But we opened our door, figuratively, and a portion of them (not all of the community, of course, I do not condemn the entire LBGT community) are pissing on our rug. You and AnnArchist have to be feeling more betrayed than I, at this point, I would guess.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 02:22 PM
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How the fuck did so many of you allow yourselves to get dragged into this conversation? The "Is she trans?" bullshit has NOTHING to do with Mens Rights. I hate this. The mods try to show solidarity with the LBGT community, which is a good thing. As I've pointed out before, gender-discriminatory laws and programs, such as VAWA, have consequences that could have a huge impact on someone living a trans lifestyle. There are many places where "Trans" issues and issues facing homosexual men intersect …
/r/MensRights13/10/11 01:53 PM
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Because progress and victory is always achieved through as small, narrow, and exclusive a coalition as you can possibly manage, right?!
/r/MensRights13/10/11 04:19 AM
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A "waning" of male dominance in education? As in, the tide of male dominance is just starting to tip slightly in a different direction? Is this serious? Is this a troll? Girls are OBLITERATING boys in school, have been for years. The inequality in funding of girls-only programs vs boy-only programs (do such things even exist), the entire public education system, run by a super-majority female base, has been completely and totally tailored for the education of girls while ignoring the needs of bo…
/r/MensRights12/10/11 11:12 PM
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It's pathetic to claim women have been treated worse than men and ignoring this part of the equation. That's a little thing called misandry you stupid cunt. I'm sorry, I'm gonna get downvoted to hell, but... I agree with your point. Conveniently ignoring or downplaying the fact that only men are subject to conscription and facing the horrors of front line combat is a misandrist minimizing of the value of men's lives. But you needed to leave the "you stupid cunt" out. I know you're angry. I'm ang…
/r/MensRights09/10/11 11:03 PM
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The problem is, if you keep "tilting the board", you'll never agree when are where it should stop. Look at education. 30 years ago, people looked at our education system, and the results, and decided it was biased against girls. In that time, with government funding and changes to teaching and education, we've tilted the board heavily for girls. Now, women DOMINATE the us education system. The overwhelming majority of college gradates today are female. Yet still, other than us "mens rights looni…
/r/MensRights07/10/11 11:02 PM
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The people in power in our culture tend to be white men. That is in NO WAY the same as saying white male = powerful. The poor, the unemployed white male is just as screwed over and powerless as the unemployed women and the unemployed black people and the unemployed gay people, etc
/r/MensRights07/10/11 09:29 PM
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Equality of outcome is bullshit, and will never be reached. "Formal Equality" is equality of opportunity. Let people choose what they do with their opportunity. Tilting the board to help someone at the expense of someone else is unjust. If every man and woman, white and black and asian, straight and gay, has the same opportunity to study and become a scientist and engineer, I don't give a fuck if White and Asian men tend to these fields more, nor would i care if suddenly Black Lesbians dominated…
/r/MensRights07/10/11 09:26 PM
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How do they not get it? There can never be equality as long as we promote the idea that certain groups be favored based on race/gender/lifestyle. NEVER. Simply reversing what they feel is society's pecking order is STILL discrimination. Every person, EVERY FUCKING PERSON, deserves to be judged based on "the content of their character" and not what "group" they were born into. I will stand up and be heard when someone is treated unfairly, whether it's because they're white, or because they're bla…
/r/MensRights07/10/11 05:19 PM
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Attacking behaviour isn't the same as attacking the person Hate to play semantics (no I don't), but you titled this thread "MR taken over by angry children?", and not "MR taken over by childish antics?" One clearly is attacking the behavior, one clearly is characterizing people directly. Guess which one you used.
/r/MensRights05/10/11 04:56 AM
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TIL.... Michael Moore's mom is a member of r/MR And please, please don't drag partisan political issues into here. Clearly you sympathize with his lefty-liberal views. That's great. Others disagree and hate his views. That's also great. But don't drag liberal vs. conservative, dem vs. GOP bullshit here. And taking people to task for badmouthing someone like MM is doing exactly that.
/r/MensRights05/10/11 04:53 AM
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If you read the actual comments, pool-Dolphin, you'd see much more of their anger is directed at the fact that there's been so much pushback and homophobia oozing from some of the members here at the idea of supporting the LBGT community. If you did your best to sabotage the effort, sarcastically sneer at honest attempts to let others see our point of view, and ooze homophobia/trans-phobia in these threads, then don't complain when the LBGT community sees those comments and says "See, those MR c…
/r/MensRights04/10/11 12:41 AM
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Because getting changes to laws that favor women in order to make them truly equal addresses Hunger in Sudan, right? Have you listened to nothing I've written? The LBGT community has a stake in us achieving our goals - removing gender-descriminatory law and program from government and society. I'm not advocating support for the LBGT community just because "it's a great cause" like ending world hunger, land mine removal, or peace in the middle-east. I'm advocating support for LBGT causes THAT COI…
/r/MensRights29/09/11 01:06 PM
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This is actually a little eye-opening to me, this thread. The hatred and anger at the MR subreddit trying to be more open. The feminist movements in general, and the feminist subreddits here in specific, are having issues with the LBGT because of the female-privleged views, laws, and societal constructs. We can join with LBGT activists becasue true equality through abolition of gender-defined law and government is the only way to avoid trapping many LBGT's in murky gray areas of the law. But rat…
/r/MensRights28/09/11 07:35 PM
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I think this thread is exposing the divide we all know exists. Every movement of this type has multiple paths, multiple tactics. A MLK who wishes peaceful discourse, and a Malcolm X who uses angry rhetoric. Both have a place. Both get action. You need the scary militants to force the status quo into change, you need the peaceful bridge-builders to try and forge a meaningful future the way we see it. Someone needs to knock down the walls in front of us, someone needs to help build new bridges whe…
/r/MensRights28/09/11 06:59 PM
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As a fan of adventure time, I'd say this was pretty out of context. This show is generally weird, it's characters span an unbelievable array of species, not merely genders. Some are nice, some are mean. That particular guy was an evil asshole and deserved what he got. If this show regularly showed a number of male figures as assholes, on a regular basis, I'd agree with the assesment of misandry. But the main hero and his sidekick are male, they shown as usually decent people, and there are plent…
/r/MensRights28/09/11 03:27 PM
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And again, I would disagree. I see constant discussion on VAWA in r/MR, it's ramifications on LBGT I've established above. We discuss programs to help victims of DV and the poor that discriminate based on gender. I NEVER see discussions here on the sentencing disparities between whites and blacks (not that they don't exist or aren't important, it's just not discussed here). I don't see discussions on college admission based on race - again, I'm not saying it's not a good point, or something wort…
/r/MensRights28/09/11 03:36 AM
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Race and religious rights are not as intertwined with a mens movement as much as LBGT issues are. As I've stated before, gender-specific laws and programs, such as VAWA, and the funding of womens-only shelters and programs, leaves too many gray areas and risks many of our LBGT brothers and sisters. Once again, I ask, is a gay man who is physically abused by his male partner undeserving of the same government funds and protections of law as a woman? What about domestic violence in a Lesbian coupl…
/r/MensRights28/09/11 02:14 AM
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Actually, I was thinking the same thing. Except you forgot "Also admits to committing crimes against children"
/r/MensRights28/09/11 02:01 AM
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And we kick puppies. And steal candy from small children. And we butt in line everywhere we go. MRA's are also the people who use the last of the toilet paper and don;t put up a new roll. And if we did, we'd put it on so the paper rolled from under instead of over.
/r/MensRights27/09/11 07:36 PM
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I hope we can find a way in the mens rights movement, and in the MR subreddit, to welcome all who share our goals with open arms. I believe all people living a trans lifestyle can join with our purpose: With an ever-growing diversity of gender and sexuality identifications, laws that treat genders differently can never be applied without confusion and controversy. If a man living as a woman is a victim of domestic violence, does the Violence against women act apply? Do women's only shelters and …
/r/MensRights25/09/11 03:00 AM
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This is in response to all those evil, misogynist tips on rape prevention, which, of course, is all about blaming the victim instead of any concern for safety! I think I'm going to start a campaign against all the evil, victim-blaming signs in parking garages that warn: "Remember to lock your doors and take valuables with you" FUCK THAT! TELL THE THIEVES NOT TO STEAL!
/r/MensRights23/09/11 04:13 PM
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I've posted this quote before, but it bears repeating. "If freedom of speech does not apply to those whom you vehemently disagree; there is no freedom of speech."
/r/MensRights23/09/11 04:20 AM
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One of the most interesting things I've heard said, and seems to be a good point, was something along the lines of "Bigotry and Discrimination only end when those in the discriminating and bigoted group make it unacceptable to do so". I'm not putting it well enough there, so I'll go forward with the example they used. Black people could not stop discrimination against blacks. They needed to rally, needed to fight, needed to sway public opinion- but it was only when joining the KKK and lynching b…
/r/MensRights19/09/11 07:53 PM
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That's right, he was asking for it! He deserved to get slapped and pushed! Look what he was wearing!
/r/MensRights10/09/11 02:48 AM
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This is exactly as I believe. I've never seen it expressed to simply and beautifully as that graphic. Thank you for showing it to me (us).
/r/MensRights27/08/11 04:11 PM
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I would say it is most likely you, Armchair, that is mistaken. You have a genuine interest in combatting misogyny, and trying to foster better communications betwen MRAs and feminists. That subreddit was not set up for that purpose. The name is entirely accurate, because the subreddit was set up expressly for trolling the entirety of r/mensrights subreddit and the causes they try to further. The subreddit you are suggesting, while it will meet with disdain and anger here, might be somewhat usefu…
/r/MensRights21/08/11 10:03 PM
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First, it's important to recognize the difference between "equality of opportunity" and "equality of outcome". I feel a large portion of feminism is commited to achieving equality of outcome, and in order to achieve this, are willing to completely destroy any sense of equality of opportunity. Also, many in the feminism movement refuse to admit victories when it knows funding/dollars are tied to them being still percieved as "opressed". For instance, at what level of female academic domination, w…
/r/MensRights19/08/11 10:21 PM
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As far as London Eley, the ex-gf who advertised money in exchange for the hit, if she starts to really get in trouble, she can just start crying and claim she was 'abused'. It's the super-duper get out of jail free card for women murdering their partners! They might as well advertise on tv! "Ladies, would you like your man to die, but not get in any trouble at all?! Simply kill him in his sleep, or pay someone to do it for you, then claim you were a battered woman when the heat is on! It's just …
/r/MensRights18/08/11 05:09 AM
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But don't you see!? The 40 year old woman was ALSO drunk - just not passed out like the younger man. Therefore, since they were BOTH drunk, clearly the young man should be facing attempted rape charges - after all, if the woman and the man are both drunk, we arrest and charge the male, right?
/r/MensRights11/08/11 05:42 PM
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