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| 5 | Q4BP : What do the studies that show lower partner counts for attractive or healthy weight women say about high partner count women? And conversely why overweight or less attractive women show higher partner counts? | Question for BluePill | bobdolesdole | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 06:53 PM |
| 1 | Are the features of what makes a woman "sophisticated" arousing to most men? | bobdolesdole | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/19 10:05 PM | |
| 1 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate? | Discussion | bobdolesdole | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 10:57 PM |
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| 1 | The main problems with reddit style TRP philosophyWhat benefit does female esteem give men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/20 01:19 AM |
| 1 | The main problems with reddit style TRP philosophy"Low value" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/20 01:18 AM |
| 1 | The main problems with reddit style TRP philosophyAm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/20 01:18 AM |
| 1 | Voluntary Acknowledgement of PaternityThe husband is the victim of some whore and the state. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/20 01:12 AM |
| 2 | A much older yet influential critique of TRP on a different sub. Thoughts?Women like to be emotionally abused because of their firmware 🤷🏻♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/20 11:12 PM |
| 1 | Voluntary Acknowledgement of PaternityI don't care. Just saying. It's just victim blaming. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/20 11:08 PM |
| 1 | Voluntary Acknowledgement of PaternityThis should take 2 emails to resolve with the state. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/20 10:58 PM |
| 1 | Voluntary Acknowledgement of Paternity🤘🏻 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/20 10:54 PM |
| 1 | Voluntary Acknowledgement of PaternityRather be a murderer than a cuck 🤷🏻♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/20 10:52 PM |
| 1 | Voluntary Acknowledgement of PaternityCan you shift blame any harder | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/20 10:50 PM |
| 1 | Historical extra-pair paternity (cuckoldry) may be lower than previously believed.How is evopsych "blowing" itself out? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 11:02 PM |
| 1 | Why Womens High Standards are Good: Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the BombWhen a woman appreciates the value you bring Ohh bloopey | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 10:56 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Most men don't give a shit about woman's age, even for LTRs and marriage. If a woman is hot enough, they won't care if she's 25 or 50.You're niche and you're arguing it from a best practice standpoint. A 19 year old that barebacks will make thousands a day. You're only correct from a operator perspective but not from a maximizing appeal standpoint which is our argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 10:32 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Most men don't give a shit about woman's age, even for LTRs and marriage. If a woman is hot enough, they won't care if she's 25 or 50.No. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 10:16 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Most men don't give a shit about woman's age, even for LTRs and marriage. If a woman is hot enough, they won't care if she's 25 or 50.Op is dodging | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 09:08 PM |
| 3 | If LTRs are bad for men why do most studies say they are happier than single men?Because most of the men in these studies are still male romantics. They still fundamentally require someone to manage their emotions and coddle them. The point of unplugging is to basically get rid of the exact effect that you're observing in this study. The goal of unplugging is to make the measurement of a man in an LTR lower or neutral to that to one who is spinning plates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 07:09 PM |
| 12 | CMV: Most men don't give a shit about woman's age, even for LTRs and marriage. If a woman is hot enough, they won't care if she's 25 or 50.You honestly believe if there were two prostitutes, age 19 and age 40 that older men would consistently choose the 40 year old woman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 07:00 PM |
| 1 | Are men desperate because women are picky, or are women picky because men are desperate?Did I say that no men are low libido and no women are high libido? It's as natural as the difference is grip strength. Wouldn't even be surprised if they were similar in disparity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 08:47 AM |
| 2 | Extreme pills like red,pink and black, are nothing but circle jerking echo chambers.Repost of the exact last thread. Tldr tone policing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 08:38 AM |
| 1 | Are men desperate because women are picky, or are women picky because men are desperate?You are manic. Women don't have equal sex drives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 08:33 AM |
| 1 | Are men desperate because women are picky, or are women picky because men are desperate?Not even debatable. Studied. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 07:43 AM |
| 1 | Are men desperate because women are picky, or are women picky because men are desperate?agree, was trying to skip the obvious argument. Because all the femcels are "muh but muh face structure." Get a fuckin' nose ring. BAM. Instant 1 point. Fuck, fat is fine if she has big tits and a nice ass. 90% of "curvy" porn on the internet are fat chicks. So many fat women in porn I didn't appreciate a properly skinny woman till my 30s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 05:26 AM |
| 1 | Are men desperate because women are picky, or are women picky because men are desperate?I mean no arguments on low class. But ugly women can't really sell themselves in that kind of arrangement. Actually ugly women, they've got to do the $25 blowjob type stuff. But truth be told, they're rare. Most women are easy to clean up, the femcel whiners are the worst. Like just don't dress like a slob, buy a nice pair of shoes, dye your hair, wear makeup and be pleasant and you're AT LEAST a fucking 5 95% of the time. Even if you're a 4, any dudes going to forget that if he's hitting your t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 05:21 AM |
| 0 | Are men desperate because women are picky, or are women picky because men are desperate?"I'll give you $700 a month, and for that I will use your holes twice a week." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 05:18 AM |
| 1 | CMV: If you are heterosexual and spend all your time trashing people of the opposite sex, you should not have any relationships with people of the opposite sex.I mostly agree with this post. G'nizzle fuck face. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 05:17 AM |
| 1 | CMV: If you are heterosexual and spend all your time trashing people of the opposite sex, you should not have any relationships with people of the opposite sex.You don't even have a "view." I've asked you on more than one occasion to share your view on the SMP, but you have none. You just have surface level criticism, which amounts to tone policing. What in your CMV isn't tone policing? The best argument you had so far were the studies, and then you ignored the fact that if you follow that path you end up "black pilled" and just said "lul I'm not black pilled." Come on man, put your neck out. This is weak. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 05:11 AM |
| 1 | CMV: If you are heterosexual and spend all your time trashing people of the opposite sex, you should not have any relationships with people of the opposite sex.Stick your neck out, share non-personal things about who you are and what your ACTUAL views are. Not what you think "other people shouldn't think" but what YOU have an ACTUAL view on. Do you even have one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnBdGTX3vZc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 05:00 AM |
| 1 | CMV: If you are heterosexual and spend all your time trashing people of the opposite sex, you should not have any relationships with people of the opposite sex.Prove me wrong then. Come up with an argument that isn't tone policing, that doesn't sell the high beta angle and that you're actually conservative. Say anything, really, that just isn't "stop being jerks you guys." Or "actually, I'm cool hehe." Stick your neck out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 04:55 AM |
| 1 | CMV: If you are heterosexual and spend all your time trashing people of the opposite sex, you should not have any relationships with people of the opposite sex.Well yeah, we should hope not. Anyone that forms their life in a way that ends up not getting laid, wtf are you doing as a man. The only difference in our value systems really comes down to "how it should be" and how it is. Take that snipped, ignore the rest of TRP in its entirety. And when you're ready, that one snippet would make sense. Men don't walk into TRP ready, they just don't. I didn't. You won't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 04:52 AM |
| 0 | Are men desperate because women are picky, or are women picky because men are desperate?Not to mention college women legit whoring themselves out. You can be a fat slob and work at a cube farm and have a 19 year old on rotation. You have to be an absolute retard to not be able to get needs met in this climate. So long as you don't get all romantic, this is paradise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 04:50 AM |
| 1 | CMV: If you are heterosexual and spend all your time trashing people of the opposite sex, you should not have any relationships with people of the opposite sex.I like how you go from tone policing to bro mode when all you can do is... tone police. I've had this argument before, you'll just spout about how you should be a high beta blah blah blah. Dude, talk to men who are older that have had real conflict. This is basically "everyone has a plan till they get hit in the mouth." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 04:49 AM |
| 1 | CMV: If you are heterosexual and spend all your time trashing people of the opposite sex, you should not have any relationships with people of the opposite sex.That's a terrible angle, because then you end up on the black pill path. The strongest correlation, money, income, height, status, jawline etc... None of that. It's scent cues to facial symmetry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 04:45 AM |
| 2 | CMV: If you are heterosexual and spend all your time trashing people of the opposite sex, you should not have any relationships with people of the opposite sex.prepared for the consequences of your choices. Which is what? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 04:38 AM |
| 1 | Are men desperate because women are picky, or are women picky because men are desperate?No, you don't have to agree with anyone to eat breakfast, lunch and dinner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 04:37 AM |
| 1 | Are men desperate because women are picky, or are women picky because men are desperate?Man, nuance just flies right by you. How do you do it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 04:35 AM |
| 2 | Are men desperate because women are picky, or are women picky because men are desperate?Are you "desperate" to eat breakfast, lunch and dinner? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 04:29 AM |
| 1 | CMV: If you are heterosexual and spend all your time trashing people of the opposite sex, you should not have any relationships with people of the opposite sex.Of course you don't want kids, you're young and liberal. At BEST, you'll try to say you're libertarian, an anarchist or a moderate. But once you boil it all down, it'll just be a bunch of progressive value systems. e.g. prochoice, legalize, pro gay marriage etc etc. These are all manifestations of an ideology that prioritizes "how things should be" and that's how you act. You think men "should be good to women" and that women "should appreciate men." And so you act in that accordance. But truth … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 04:29 AM |
| 1 | CMV: If you are heterosexual and spend all your time trashing people of the opposite sex, you should not have any relationships with people of the opposite sex.Not tone policing, but if you want to argue effective dating strategies, you can do it without saying things like “women are useless” or accusing them all of being “hypergamous sluts” a la TRP. So... Tone policing? I’ve actually given a lot of breadth to the redpillers who were honest and said they didn’t like women but liked having sex with them, because they were honest, regardless of how immoral that approach is. It’s actually the closest anyone has actually been to changing my view even thou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 04:26 AM |
| 1 | CMV: If you are heterosexual and spend all your time trashing people of the opposite sex, you should not have any relationships with people of the opposite sex.Or what? That I'll "only attract damaged women?" I'm not that young man, I'm old enough to realize women are good for one thing. And so long as you really in your heart of hearts believe that, you can't really lose the game. It's when you're preoccupied with keeping the dream alive that they're "so much more than that" that there's problems. lol @ threatening me with being alone. The guys that are "alone" are the ones that get it. They're not alone. They just understand the game better. Besides,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 04:21 AM |
| 6 | CMV: If you are heterosexual and spend all your time trashing people of the opposite sex, you should not have any relationships with people of the opposite sex.Not worth it. Trained a bitch. You prepared to beat and cheat? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 03:51 AM |
| 3 | CMV: If you are heterosexual and spend all your time trashing people of the opposite sex, you should not have any relationships with people of the opposite sex.K. Well, don't say you weren't warned. A woman being pleasant is a first order importance. If a woman can't be pleasant, she's trash. Good only for sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 03:46 AM |
| 5 | Are men desperate because women are picky, or are women picky because men are desperate?Men are not "desperate." Men have much higher sex drives collectively than women can or will meet. It's biological. Aside from hitting the gym, you either look masculine or you don't - can't change the face. Can change the body though (which the gym is for) although can't change the underlying genetics of the body. Facial symmetry and composition aren't the only factors. This is just a fatalistic incel rant if you boil it down. Dudes are getting laid. The only dudes not getting laid are weak. Ge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 03:45 AM |
| 1 | CMV: If you are heterosexual and spend all your time trashing people of the opposite sex, you should not have any relationships with people of the opposite sex.So you're basically here to tone police? Lets be real, it wouldn't stop there. You'd just argue these people have "the wrong view" ultimately. Once they see the view "your way" then and only then would you cede that they're "alright." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 03:43 AM |
| 4 | CMV: If you are heterosexual and spend all your time trashing people of the opposite sex, you should not have any relationships with people of the opposite sex.So why would we stop nutting in broads? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 03:42 AM |
| 3 | CMV: If you are heterosexual and spend all your time trashing people of the opposite sex, you should not have any relationships with people of the opposite sex.You may want to ask TRP whether or not men on there have the relationships they want, I certainly do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 03:41 AM |
| 5 | CMV: If you are heterosexual and spend all your time trashing people of the opposite sex, you should not have any relationships with people of the opposite sex.lol You've never dated a legit bitch before. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 03:36 AM |
| 9 | Are men desperate because women are picky, or are women picky because men are desperate?This is very much a chicken and egg problem. I see many people on TRP/PPD/dating subreddits say that women wouldn't be so picky in online dating and dating in general if men weren't so desperate and swiped/hit on every woman. "It's men's fault" claim women and white knights. And this isn't entirely accurate. In a scenario where you have women outnumbering men, they get less picky, but they're still a lot more picky than men. It's evolutionary. And even still, there's many examples in cultures al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 03:31 AM |
| 0 | CMV: If you are heterosexual and spend all your time trashing people of the opposite sex, you should not have any relationships with people of the opposite sex.Sane women do not fuck men they hate. This has not been what experience of a good poonsmen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/19 11:29 PM |
| -1 | CMV: If you are heterosexual and spend all your time trashing people of the opposite sex, you should not have any relationships with people of the opposite sex.Point? Point I'm making is this OP only makes sense from a naive perspective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/19 11:22 PM |
| 8 | [Q4M] Do you think that PPD is a "neutral community" or is it becoming an echo chamber with its own sanctioned narrative?Subreddit does seem to be over moderated. I've submitted 3 posts, all have been auto filtered and most involve moderator input on how the post should be ran. So the "orientation" of said community seems to be at least a large part moderator input. So if you feel it's "too red" it might be because posts that are very blue are filtered and vice versa. If you feel it's neutral, it's probably because both ends are cut off. I have found that as your questions are more and more specific, the mods are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/19 10:10 PM |
| 1 | The expectations of 'being a natural' at sex for both gendersPorn sexing just fine 🥰 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/19 09:43 PM |
| 1 | The expectations of 'being a natural' at sex for both gendersI wouldn't say by view is tradcon. Just not Liberal | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/19 09:40 PM |
| 1 | The expectations of 'being a natural' at sex for both gendersI am aware that new generation liberals are morons, yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/19 09:36 PM |
| -1 | The expectations of 'being a natural' at sex for both gendersYeah, and you're a liberal looking for sex partners. Addressed in the reply. And of course you'll try to reframe it that you're looking for "long term" whatever, but these easy in, easy out relationships are basically just reframing FWBesc relationships by constraining it through fast change serial monogamy, it's not really any different than casual sex. Even if that's not the case, if you want to wife up a whore, that's fine, but it's just not typical. Within the OP, we're just talking about ho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/19 07:12 PM |
| 1 | Question for the Red’s.Assuming you're in your 20s or earlier (which makes this count very high for a lifetime projection of something like 50-100+) It depends on her purpose and orientation. BPW will reject you for LTR, select for STR. RPW (actually red pill, not tradcon women) wouldn't care, someone like Atlas wouldn't even blink at that N. The mindset is this. Women are looking to control men for LTRs, and at 19 you're actually in the outlier territory. A low outlier, but definitely out there. Someone like Atlas or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/19 05:26 PM |
| 15 | The expectations of 'being a natural' at sex for both gendersmen generally want a woman who is a great sex partner, but dont want them to have slept around to gain that experience. While a woman can get a lot of sex sessions in with a couple dedicated partners, having only a couple men to work off of narrows the scope of experience drastically. This is basically a liberal thing. If you're just looking for a "sex partner" then yes, you're correct. You're missing the context here. Which is that men want a woman they can mold into their sexual ideal. That's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/19 04:55 PM |
| 2 | [CMV] A man should not discuss his negative emotions with a woman other than his mother, his sister or his wife.She prefers that you don’t. FTFY | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/19 01:22 AM |
| 3 | [CMV] A man should not discuss his negative emotions with a woman other than his mother, his sister or his wife.Be worried about the future, feeling sad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/19 01:20 AM |
| 3 | Why do quite many red pillers seem incapable to love?Start another family. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/19 01:15 AM |
| 2 | Why do quite many red pillers seem incapable to love?🤡 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 11:53 PM |
| 3 | Why do quite many red pillers seem incapable to love?I mean, you are allowed to fuck other people and she is not. Formally one sided. Depending on the cycles of the moon and the oceans, she either accepts this or "has never accepted it." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 10:11 PM |
| 17 | Why do quite many red pillers seem incapable to love?Your woman just let me creampie her, said she loves you but is not in love with you. Also told me she "never does this." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 09:18 PM |
| 1 | [Discussion] Less good-looking women tend not to breedSince around 85% of women have children it doesn't really make sense to care too much about what percentage of those that don't are less attractive. 85% of women means that almost everyone who wants to have children, has them. In this case, your standards are clearly, even by your own admission, too high. If raw genetics are so important, sperm donation and or Tinder will make that a lot easier, but age wise you have an uphill battle. Controlling for morbid obesity, throwing a pair of tits and m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 08:18 PM |
| 3 | Why do quite many red pillers seem incapable to love?AWALT | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 07:58 PM |
| 3 | Why do quite many red pillers seem incapable to love?fuck other women without open relationship | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 07:56 PM |
| 3 | Why do quite many red pillers seem incapable to love?No. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 07:31 PM |
| 14 | Why do quite many red pillers seem incapable to love?He was in for that "my wife is my bestie" feeling that never came. I think a lot or even most of us got the feeling, and then learned that she was undeserving of her unicorn horn. And the longer you spend picking it all apart, the more busted this horse is. Grabs his crop HYAAA BITCH! WHAP WHAP "You're suuuuch an asssshole!" Gag on it WHAP WHAP ghak ghak ghak, "love you daddy!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 06:42 PM |
| 17 | Why do quite many red pillers seem incapable to love?You're missing *the point.* Which is that men, as a rule, tend to overinvest. This applies to *most* men under the top 20%. What percentage of men in the top 20% are like this, IDK, but it would appear it's not many. Because most female opinions on men seem to be formed from women being pumped and dumped, manipulated or mistreated by men within the top 20%. I have never found the angle that "all men" act like they have so many options, because *most* men are constrained by male romance. That mea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 06:24 PM |
| 109 | Why do quite many red pillers seem incapable to love?Most of us started as male romantics, and we learned that women like the idea of men loving them in that way, but will disregard men with this sort of disposition for men who are simply more masculine. I used to fight over the dishes, now the biggest arguments we get in are what we're going to do when another woman gets pregnant. New me had to take old me behind the shed with the 12 gauge. That dude is dead. Pussy is available everywhere, happiness is freedom. TRP was right. When you boil it all… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 05:09 PM |
| -1 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?K | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 03:24 PM |
| -1 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?In what way did you address the op or the quote? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 02:57 PM |
| 1 | Are relationships just suffering and a constant battle for power?I was mistaken then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 02:56 PM |
| 1 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?Didn't address my op at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 01:54 PM |
| 1 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?🤡 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 08:38 AM |
| 2 | Are relationships just suffering and a constant battle for power?I can't find the exact comment chain, but it was something about how women get a sense of pleasure and jealousy hearing about a woman who chopped their husbands dick off. I took it to mean that they understood that he was basically untameable, or that they fantasized about taking away the power. I wasn't sure and was reminded reading this chain. You have too many comment for me to find it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 07:32 AM |
| 1 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?No. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 04:37 AM |
| 1 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?There is no possible way we're even close to 40% of people smoking right now. TBC, I smoke and we're a dying breed. I find the 15% stat to be most likely accurate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 03:57 AM |
| 1 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?Then why would you reply caring about it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 03:50 AM |
| 1 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?Are you aware of what the term irony means? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 03:44 AM |
| 2 | Are relationships just suffering and a constant battle for power?In another thread, unless I mixed you up, you mention that women are jealous when some other woman chops her husbands dick off. Can you elaborate on that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 03:40 AM |
| 1 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate? What do you think was the most prohibitive "soft" control mechanism that has been done away with, outside of financial disparities between husbands and wives? Or do you think that was the primary mechanism of control? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 03:35 AM |
| 1 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?>why you would agree with me. We're actually skipping that debate entirely. You can start a thread stating the reverse and I doubt many RP\men are going to care. Or gender it as male etc. In fact, it's probably more useful that way IMO. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 03:27 AM |
| 0 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?Post a thread *shrug* | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 03:24 AM |
| 1 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?I'm not interested in the premise, but the conclusion. If I debate the premise with you, you're still not going to debate the conclusion. So I've just wasted my time then, arguing with someone else on their terms, rather than learning about my topic of interest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 02:15 AM |
| 1 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?I've already had that debate a bunch, it never goes anywhere. I'm skipping it, because I already have a view. If you want you can debate the view I typed out for you. But ultimately it will boil down to the fact that you have much higher burdens of proof than me, and that's where we'll differ. And then if we got that far and I wanted to actually answer the question I'm after, which is, how would this knowledge change the world, you'd just say "that's not something we know" blah blah blah like it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 02:07 AM |
| 1 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?Because people won't debate it. I mean you're not. All you're going to do is just claim I'm speculating which I've already said. I'd rather speculate than wait 30 years to be spoonfed a candy coated version of what I already know to be true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 01:55 AM |
| 1 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?Because I already have my own view of why it's harmful. It is my view that men and women have a naive image of their partners that becomes more pragmatic, and more jaded as they accumulate N. This naive image is the "romantic" view of partnership, and as women acculumulate N, they're left with a "red pill" understanding of the world. And so visceral arousal becomes more and more important and the "soft" stuff more and more "it would be nice." Nothing I have ever seen, has ever disputed this. Yes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 01:47 AM |
| 5 | Both sides of the debate don't accurately take into account that a decent percentage of either gender are just garbage people> I think much has been addressed already but one point is that even decent people are capable of indecency under the right circumstances and it behooves one to be aware of what those circumstances are-- no matter the person's gender or the gender of their partner, this understanding is vital Right, women with a man who has lost frame. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 01:42 AM |
| 1 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?I literally gave you data... Right, and it's not conclusive. It doesn't demonstrate causality. No sociological studies do. So again, you can troll the studies as "correlation doesn't equal causation." It's pointless. You can endlessly reframe things. Is it weight? Or is it status? Is it status or impulsivity. We'll just wait 30 years to respond to that. Or you know what, have a view based on the evidence and be willing to live on it. I think N is detrimental to women, and men, but in a different… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 01:36 AM |
| 0 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?then a panicked overreaction to it. It's more interesting to think about what traumatic events are in store for society. If you don't post about this in 12 hours, I will. Can't post for 12 more hours. I think you're right. And it would be an interesting discussion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 01:26 AM |
| 1 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?"I can handle it" Great point. We know it's bad even now,we just don't care enough to do anything about it. I think we've deluded ourselves otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 01:26 AM |
| 1 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?I would be happy for you to engage with me I'm not interested in the debates you're interested in, because they are defacto pointless discussions. You can spam every thread with a study with "correlation doesn't equal causation" and you wouldn't even be able to tell if the response is serious or parody. The debate on the SMP ultimately requires you to speculate, otherwise you're merely a spectator. To me, it's like being an atheist. I had to take some leap of faith that "there's probably not a g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 01:22 AM |
| 1 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?Interestingly enough, it does seem as though young liberal males are almost systematically going against their own intuition, entirely outside of this debate. Any topic that has any obvious intuitive realization devolves into requiring to be spoon fed to even move from the position of militant adoption of the "correct" skeptical response. e.g. The translete debate. And part of that seems to be some conflict between ideology and pragmatism. So I guess, do you think there would be any change to li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 01:17 AM |
| 1 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?Well I am engaging other users. For instance, an interesting point was brought up regarding food intake. We all know eating terrible is bad for you, yet most of us are overweight. These are arguments that accept the OP as stated, and bring up great discussion points. I'm sure you have some gold like that somewhere, it's just that I guess I'm not smart enough to see your insight. Because when I read your responses, they all seem to be formed outside of the argument. I'll have to hit the books, th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 01:05 AM |
| 2 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?I'm not, you're allowed to post. It's a discussion, anything you think is relevant, people can discuss here. It's just unlikely I'll respond because I won't think it's relevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 01:03 AM |
| 2 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?You seem to be under the impression everyone here is bound by your premise and isn’t allowed to contest them. You are wrong. Not at all, I've explicitly told you that you're allowed to post here. It is absolutely within the rules that you can "attack my premise." I just don't have to recognize it, because that isn't my premise. That's your view, of my thread. I can't stop you from posting, but I'm not obligate to kick the football through the goalposts after you shift them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 01:00 AM |
| 3 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_experiment Since you're unaware this is a thing I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 12:59 AM |
| 1 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?You bring up an interesting point. Given that you are much better at seeing how these things trickle down, if any action would take place, where do you think it would? What impact if any do you think it would have? To the world at all? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 12:58 AM |
| 3 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?Go start your own thread then. This isn't a debate, it's a discussion and tagged appropriately. You're still free to pollute this thread just like you did the other, I think it's permitted by rules. So by all means, discuss your studies from 30 years ago. I also should point out our future is exactly the same as 2019, just the studies are far more advanced, and indisputable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 12:54 AM |
| 2 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?You're not arguing the premise. The studies in this OP are 30 years in the future of the ones you linked me to. Did you even read the OP? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 12:51 AM |
| 1 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?So you think if they released a bunch of studies linking video game usage, concretely to mass shootings society wouldn't do anything? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 12:50 AM |
| 0 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?Interesting point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 12:45 AM |
| 6 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?I think that's a great inspiration for a thread you can start. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 12:44 AM |
| 1 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?You really going to pretend that studies of harm have zero influence on the population? Much less that the government doesn't care? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 12:42 AM |
| 3 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?Yes people make choices, but the choices at least 2/3 make is to eat themselves into an early grave. Some people get more money from it. where is the broader benefit? This is the gold I mine for, thank you! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 12:25 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP : What do the studies that show lower partner counts for attractive or healthy weight women say about high partner count women? And conversely why overweight or less attractive women show higher partner counts?Those people are morons though, I still can't understand your rationale for the understanding gap, given that you're not a moron. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 12:16 AM |
| 2 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?If you were to speculate, what sorts of hamster arguments would ensue? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 12:14 AM |
| 1 | Are relationships just suffering and a constant battle for power?Sort of pointless reply. "You can't fire me, I quit!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 12:14 AM |
| 2 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?https://uwaterloo.ca/tobacco-use-canada/sites/ca.tobacco-use-canada/files/uploads/images/1_1_2019_figure_0.jpg What do you make of this then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 12:12 AM |
| 1 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?Could you expand out of what you think the narrative would be and how people would act in this future? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 12:07 AM |
| 0 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?Are you not just projecting inherently liberal views though? e.g. We think there are benefits to globalization\can restructure social security etc. What about more concrete examples, e.g. smoking risks I suppose we could look at the debates about recreational cocaine use\legalization. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 12:06 AM |
| 2 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?We're just debating if such a thing was true. Sort of pointless to rehash the same debate about whether or not it is bad a thousand times. Now we've moved forward to have a new debate about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 12:05 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP : What do the studies that show lower partner counts for attractive or healthy weight women say about high partner count women? And conversely why overweight or less attractive women show higher partner counts?Again, other users understand this. It's only you that needs additional, considerable instruction. But thank you, it's needed back and forth to understand how to word these types of things. e.g. the thread I posted today. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 12:02 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP : What do the studies that show lower partner counts for attractive or healthy weight women say about high partner count women? And conversely why overweight or less attractive women show higher partner counts?Right, but we're not having an open debate, this is a "pointed question." Which is why other posters, with similar concerns have posted under automod. As a courtesy, because they're not directly answering the question, they're trying to reject the premise. I'm not interested in defending the premise, because that is a different intellectual pursuit I am interested in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 11:58 PM |
| 1 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?Also no studies "prove" anything, they merely give evidence supporting something and correlations https://uwaterloo.ca/tobacco-use-canada/sites/ca.tobacco-use-canada/files/uploads/images/1_1_2019_figure_0.jpg | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 11:56 PM |
| 1 | Women, fatness and disgustDo you feel viscerally disgusted by fat women in public/online? At about 45% BMI, yes. Would you feel viscerally disgusted by your previously skinny LTR becoming fat? Had it happen, no. I was very accepting. I mostly viewed her as just an overweight version of the woman I loved. I actively disregarded lower attraction to her and focused on growing "deeper" intimacy. I regret this. I think as men we assume that women would appreciate the slack. But instead they just get insecure and in no positiv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 11:53 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP : What do the studies that show lower partner counts for attractive or healthy weight women say about high partner count women? And conversely why overweight or less attractive women show higher partner counts?This question? No. You're putting the horse before the carrot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 11:43 PM |
| 1 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?We value freedom more than we value society continuing to exist. I think that's pretty clear with the way in which the world operates. T Care to elaborate? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 11:41 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP : What do the studies that show lower partner counts for attractive or healthy weight women say about high partner count women? And conversely why overweight or less attractive women show higher partner counts?Within the scope of this debate, no. Within the debate of the study, I think you have to have a view on all the possible "permutations" before you can really look further. It's easy to say that status might be what we are viewing, which is manifested as weight. But we also could be viewing impulsivity manifesting as weight, and attractiveness as a function of weight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 11:38 PM |
| 1 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?Society does not believe the N has a negative influence, so this would be expected as it stands. So you don't believe it would move past where we are right now then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 11:35 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP : What do the studies that show lower partner counts for attractive or healthy weight women say about high partner count women? And conversely why overweight or less attractive women show higher partner counts?Attractive people get what they want more than vice versa. That was the way I saw it as well. Was interested in seeing other possible opinions, without increasing the scope of the thought\debate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 11:32 PM |
| 1 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?What narratives do you think would be most prevalent in this future? So you would imagine a widespread blue pill conspiracy, where they disregard the studies and instead claim they are false? Would this not lead to a rejection of science itself? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 11:31 PM |
| 1 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?How do you think the narrative would change? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 11:29 PM |
| 2 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?Thread is not about male N count. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 11:28 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP : What do the studies that show lower partner counts for attractive or healthy weight women say about high partner count women? And conversely why overweight or less attractive women show higher partner counts?In a vacuum. Yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 11:21 PM |
| 0 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?But we do regulate alcohol and smoking. In this future, would regulating female sexuality be wrong, or just an extension of our knowledge of the dangers of it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 11:17 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP : What do the studies that show lower partner counts for attractive or healthy weight women say about high partner count women? And conversely why overweight or less attractive women show higher partner counts?k. Well, if you only account for those two variables, attraction and weight, do you have any speculated reason why those two variables perform the way they do without introducing another? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 11:16 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP : What do the studies that show lower partner counts for attractive or healthy weight women say about high partner count women? And conversely why overweight or less attractive women show higher partner counts?Because it's controlled for in the debate. Honestly what is your aim here? To speculate about the influence of weight and attractiveness on N. OBVIOUSLY. Not to waste time talking about other issues. If I start a thread on "which is the coolest muscle car of the 1960s?" you think I want to have a debate on whether or not its ethical or safe to own a car from the 1960s? I'm interested on perspectives of the influence of weight and attractiveness on N, if N increases with weight and decreases with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 11:10 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP : What do the studies that show lower partner counts for attractive or healthy weight women say about high partner count women? And conversely why overweight or less attractive women show higher partner counts?Restated for you "Provided that only attractiveness and weight determine a woman's N count, what is the influence of strictly these variables? e.g. Why do women of healthy weight, have lower partner counts than women who are overweight (controlling for all other variables)? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 11:03 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP : What do the studies that show lower partner counts for attractive or healthy weight women say about high partner count women? And conversely why overweight or less attractive women show higher partner counts?If the study is formed correctly, why would you speculate it's an issue of class? An issue that would be controlled for? You're still in the locker room the best I can gather. Unless you can formulate something based on variance of N based on only two variables. Attractiveness Weight You're introducing more variables (e.g. class). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 10:46 PM |
| 1 | Are relationships just suffering and a constant battle for power?I don't even understand what you're talking about. But this is just how you deal with a LTR that starts acting up. What's a guy going to lose about a woman being a bitch? Worst case scenario is the bitch leaves, literally. First line is WHERE sex = good, this is to be applied where you already have fluid bond etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 10:43 PM |
| 1 | Are relationships just suffering and a constant battle for power?That's the game you gotta play if you're in the provider paradigm. You think Billy is going to be able to pull that? Nah. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 10:40 PM |
| 0 | Are relationships just suffering and a constant battle for power?Much more enjoyable to let them hang themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 09:56 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP : What do the studies that show lower partner counts for attractive or healthy weight women say about high partner count women? And conversely why overweight or less attractive women show higher partner counts?You're commenting as if the study is formed incorrectly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 08:54 PM |
| 0 | Are relationships just suffering and a constant battle for power?Well yeah, it's designed with failure as an expected. It's exactly as you point out. Cats signing contacts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 08:52 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP : What do the studies that show lower partner counts for attractive or healthy weight women say about high partner count women? And conversely why overweight or less attractive women show higher partner counts?The only variables clearly supplied are attractiveness and weight. Again, I've been trying to extend an olive branch here, maybe I don't understand you. As I understand it, you are offering an explanation of why you think the study is ill formatted, e.g. missing a control. Is that correct? I don't understand how you speculate its an issue of class unless you are saying they did not control for that. That's what I've been asking. You seem to imply that you think the study did not control for clas… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 07:47 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP : What do the studies that show lower partner counts for attractive or healthy weight women say about high partner count women? And conversely why overweight or less attractive women show higher partner counts?I responded to your OP as asked No, you did not. Obviously you are free to respond in any way you see fit, but let me be clear, you did not answer it as asked. Or at least you can not, or refuse to understand it. Either way, I understand you're not going to answer the OP, but I want to be clear you did not answer it as asked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 07:39 PM |
| 0 | Are relationships just suffering and a constant battle for power?Dealing with women, alpha build. Where sex = good, otherwise run DUMP Set a requirement of behavior (be genuinely pleasant), specify the punishment (disproportionate, e.g. a hall pass). Collect prize Goto Line 1 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 07:14 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP : What do the studies that show lower partner counts for attractive or healthy weight women say about high partner count women? And conversely why overweight or less attractive women show higher partner counts?Right, because everything is controlled for. Why bother replying when it's so clearly outlined to avoid people like you replying. Pretty rude, don't you think? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 06:58 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP : What do the studies that show lower partner counts for attractive or healthy weight women say about high partner count women? And conversely why overweight or less attractive women show higher partner counts?You're speculating about the study. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 06:23 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP : What do the studies that show lower partner counts for attractive or healthy weight women say about high partner count women? And conversely why overweight or less attractive women show higher partner counts?Right. So I'm asking to speculate as if the study has controlled all variables except attractiveness and weight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 06:21 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP : What do the studies that show lower partner counts for attractive or healthy weight women say about high partner count women? And conversely why overweight or less attractive women show higher partner counts?From what I can see your speculation is that the study doesn't control for class. Unless I'm misunderstanding this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 04:57 PM |
| 1 | Only Competent Women are LTR MaterialOnly because you are willing to tolerate masculine women because you're a masochist. You're a standard MRP red pill aware, high beta. For as much as you get around, you'd think by now you'd learned that a woman not being a pain in your ass is #1. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 02:07 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP : What do the studies that show lower partner counts for attractive or healthy weight women say about high partner count women? And conversely why overweight or less attractive women show higher partner counts?Did you read this? That's confirmed. Sex workers would be removed as outliers. These are median measurements. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 11:45 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP : What do the studies that show lower partner counts for attractive or healthy weight women say about high partner count women? And conversely why overweight or less attractive women show higher partner counts?The question is theoretical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 10:42 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP : What do the studies that show lower partner counts for attractive or healthy weight women say about high partner count women? And conversely why overweight or less attractive women show higher partner counts?Is it called porker? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 10:41 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP : What do the studies that show lower partner counts for attractive or healthy weight women say about high partner count women? And conversely why overweight or less attractive women show higher partner counts?I don't understand your opinion. It seems to be commentary on a variable you think isn't controlled for. Is that correct? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 10:38 PM |
| 0 | Q4BP : What do the studies that show lower partner counts for attractive or healthy weight women say about high partner count women? And conversely why overweight or less attractive women show higher partner counts?Can you reread the op again please? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 10:17 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP : What do the studies that show lower partner counts for attractive or healthy weight women say about high partner count women? And conversely why overweight or less attractive women show higher partner counts?TY for posting under automod | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 10:13 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP : What do the studies that show lower partner counts for attractive or healthy weight women say about high partner count women? And conversely why overweight or less attractive women show higher partner counts?Controlled for and repeated. Thoughts then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 10:13 PM |
| 1 | Try using their tactics, why not be HypergamousThe primary mechanism for women leaving men is SMV. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 10:08 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP : What do the studies that show lower partner counts for attractive or healthy weight women say about high partner count women? And conversely why overweight or less attractive women show higher partner counts?Can you elaborate on two? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 09:23 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP : What do the studies that show lower partner counts for attractive or healthy weight women say about high partner count women? And conversely why overweight or less attractive women show higher partner counts?As in lie? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 09:16 PM |
| 4 | Q4BP : What do the studies that show lower partner counts for attractive or healthy weight women say about high partner count women? And conversely why overweight or less attractive women show higher partner counts?Question is ultimately theoretical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 09:16 PM |
| 2 | Try using their tactics, why not be HypergamousThis isn't being hypergamous, this is just lowering your standards. Being hypergamous would be divorcing your wife for your secretary and then making her pay you child support, give you half the house and alimony for kids you decided to raise together. And then society blaming your wife for not being good enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 07:07 PM |
| 4 | TRP bitches about the rise of single mothers and yet promotes pumping and dumping?What solution do you propose to men who want fulfilling sex lives that aren't female controlled? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 06:57 PM |
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