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Men don't want to deal with women that think they're intimidating. We look for peace and play. If you already have the mindset that you're "too much" for men, then the problem is likely not the men, but your attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:31 PM
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And it's best that a man recognize this and avoid dating low interest women. Make it her problem, not yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:30 PM
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Because men and women have different attraction triggers, generally speaking. Your reasoning only works if you believe in blank slate equalism, which has been thoroughly disproven.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 07:40 PM
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By this same argument you could say that people who work on managing their own anger or developing their own assertiveness are ignoring their own feelings. It is incredibly normal to work on bringing your own emotional responses closer into alignment with your values. Managing your anger is a bandaid to the actual issue - why are you feeling anger. If you just learn to take deep breaths and never address the root cause, you will be doomed to fail. In a situation where you feel jealously over a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 04:43 PM
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Some people do a lot of internal work to overcome feelings of resentment and jealousy Gas lighting themselves into ignoring/down playing their own feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 04:46 AM
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This is so true. An equal rules ENM relationship is typically one where the man puts himself at a major disadvantage. There's no equity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 04:43 AM
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If you are having casual sex with someone that isnt aware of that - then its purely trickery and deception. Nope. It's not up to the man to decode her intentions if she doesn't bring it up before having sex. We all have a right to know of the sexual status of the people we are having sex with. You have a right to ask, hear the response, and decide to have sex or not. No one has a right to that information, but you have a right to inquire. Also its about consent and boundaries. Which is up to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 03:02 AM
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Never slut shamed women and my friends certainly haven't. I do see a lot of women equating slut shaming for a man's preference not to commit to a promiscuous woman, but that's not slut shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:54 AM
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The number one way is put off sex and commitment until you've spent a considerable amount of time getting to know the person. I've heard from numerous sources that it takes six months of continuous contact until "our best selves" masks fall off.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 06:07 PM
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Early 40s for me and there was a massive jump in dating success in my late 30s and early 40s compared to the years before
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 05:54 PM
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It's only hypocritical if you believe in blank slate equalism. Men and women have different struggles and advantages in our mating strategies, which are rooted in our biology. We are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 05:38 PM
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Same. I'm do very well with women and I attribute a large part of that to accepting female nature, including the unflattering aspects. I specifically started chiming on this sub because I was sick of the incel labeling when men are honest about their thoughts and experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:12 PM
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not what i said. what? I'm not claiming that's what you said. I'm asking questions that poke holes in your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:42 AM
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It's harder to be raped when you actively want to have sex with someone, correct. Yes. Indeed. So the man has consent all the way from when she decides to leave the party and be alone with him to the point of sex? So the woman is magically safe from being kidnapped or murdered when she decides she wants to have sex with him? You really didn't think this all the way through
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:07 AM
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Kind of different, actually. It's not the safest thing to do but there's a difference between being alone with someone you definitely want to have sex with and the opposite So if you want sex then safety concerns are "different" (less) than your actual safety concerns. Thank you for proving my point
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:54 AM
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I didn't say anything about being popular. Only fun. If you think you can determine a stranger's social success off of one night, then I don't know what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 09:15 PM
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You forgot the /s tag
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 09:05 PM
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Women: "OMG dating is so dangerous for women. I might get kidnapped or murdered!" Also women: "OMG Jacky we're having so much fun with this new guy we met at the party! I'm going back to his place, but here's my live location."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 07:21 PM
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Assigning some emotions as toxic is a sign of emotional immaturity. Emotions themselves are not positive or negative. It's the behaviors that follow emotions that are positive or negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:53 PM
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Equality is only possible as an ideal. Equity is intellectually honest
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 10:10 PM
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And equity, but only when it benefits them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 10:07 PM
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Again, men are shamed for their feelings on promiscuous women. It's smarter to just look for tell tale signs and give her enough space to tell on herself during the dating process.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 02:11 AM
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Generally speaking, success in dating for men is his ability to get the sex he desires without commitment. For women, the best possible man that will give her his commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:50 PM
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Men are shamed for vocalizing the ick for promiscuous women, so it makes sense that you wouldn't hear about it outside of anonymous forums. In real life most men get the ick when they hear about the sexual adventures of the women they gave their heart to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 10:12 PM
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On the other hand, many guys who don't buy into red-pilled ideology don't particularly care about women's past sexual experiences. Nope. They care, but are more likely to be settle with what they can get
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:09 PM
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Most hot younger women have tons of options and are usually not checking for a middle aged man… you can argue this till you’re blue in the face, but most middle aged men are simply not pulling pretty young women because those women don’t want them 🌝 You're lacking reading comprehension. I said: Because women of ALL ages still select a minority of men. And if those minority of men are able to find success with a minority of young women, then your point is moot. It doesn't matter how many options …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:33 PM
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You didn’t but ok That's a lie. I said: All men? Yes. The men that are older and display attraction triggers that the majority of all women find attractive? Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:16 PM
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I think you're projecting "success in dating" from the female perspective into the male perspective. All too common. You also see this a lot with attraction triggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 10:09 AM
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Nope. I specifically said not most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:13 AM
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Why wouldn’t it be? Because women of ALL ages still select a minority of men. And if those minority of men are able to find success with a minority of young women, then your point is moot. The truth is majority of younger women wouldn’t look your way because you’re old and that’s the same for your old male counterparts. Truth is that it doesn't matter, because I'm able to find success with young women. The demand for younger women by older men is greater than the demand for older men by younger …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:11 AM
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Majority of younger women aren’t even remotely interested in someone maybe a few years older than them, if that. It doesn't take a majority to meet the sexual market place demand for an attractive older man to obtaIn a young hottie. In my personal experience, I've attacted and had better experiences with early twenty year old woman than the ones that were closer to my age in my late 30s and early 40s. To the point where most women my age I do not see as viable romantic partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:02 AM
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Have you not ever heard of the "women are wonderful effect" and reputation destruction? Just because it hasn't made the news, doesn't mean that there are not cases were a man has had his reputation destroyed by a scorned woman based solely on her side of the events. Amongst the people I know and have known, this is a common occurrence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 01:08 AM
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A promiscuous woman is a big one for a lot of men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 01:00 AM
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Most men of all ages are attracted to women all the way from their early twenties to their own age, so no, there isn't a more limited supply of attractive women. If a man does not have his life in order, yes, it's harder. If he does, then you're dead wrong. Not to mention how confidence is a key attraction quality that women look for. Confidence comes with experience that comes with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:14 PM
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And?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 09:28 PM
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And OP is off the mark
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 09:00 PM
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May as well be. An online platform that connects people for romantic intentions has the same inherent issues
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:25 PM
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If you're a woman that enjoys casual sex or one of the tiny minority of men that has access to casual sex, then yeah, they're great. Everyone else? They are absolute garbage that prays on the underprivileged.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:37 PM
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Right? Men aren't having a hard time because they aren't reading bios. They're having a hard time because the inherent dynamics of dating apps heavily skew in women's favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:34 PM
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It has less to do with safety and more to do with the cultural expectation of men initiating and driving the dating process all while she opens herself up to the largest amount of available suitors possible. The safety concern is a red herring. The same woman that claims "safety" will also drunkenly roam the streets of a strange city at 2am with her drunk friends. She'll also go to the strange guy's place to do some lines of coke, because he's such a fun guy and they're having so much fun at the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 04:00 PM
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I've had my fair bit of casual sex and this rings very true. One important aspect that should be me mentioned is regret. It's one thing to experience the life of a Chad and realize it's not all that it's cracked up to be. It's another to never experience the life of a Chad and going to the grave with regrets.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 09:04 PM
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Unfortunately I don't see much uproar over toxic femininity and misandry from the female side. It's mostly just silence or blame shifting. If you want people to follow what you say, then lead by example.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 03:58 PM
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I never quite understood this either. So you don't want the man of your dreams to pick you for a relationship? Stay single then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 02:59 PM
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Demand all you want, but your league is the man that is willing to commit to you
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 02:31 AM
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Acceptance and stoicism
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 06:27 PM
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Except that doesn't solve a man's desire for sex. Women have the benefit of proclaiming "single" status, while scratching their sexual itch with very little effort. I don't know of many women that are "single" and celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 08:24 AM
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Gossip/drama about strangers and people you might know. Revenge for a perceived wrong doing. Finding out if the guy you're casually dating is also casually dating others. Finding out if the guy you're seeing is married or in another exclusive relationship. Finding out if the guy you're seeing is dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 06:11 AM
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And how would you prove they aren't lies?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 06:02 AM
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Yep. Mid to late 30s is when I was getting more action than the entirety of all my previous years. And not just by a little bit, but multiple times over.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 07:08 PM
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"Could it be selflessness? Nah, must be a macho thing"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 01:13 AM
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I wouldn't say women have total control over the dating market. Generally speaking, women control who's picked for dates and access to sex. Men control access to commitment. If she's constantly picking, sleeping, and getting rejected for commitment with men that are out of her league due to her high standards, then it stands to reason that the cause is her high standards not getting her the results she's looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 07:39 PM
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The fact that you take offense to an analogy is a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 03:00 PM
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I disagree. Some do, some don't. Where I'm at they're the minority and the ones that had surgery and are doing well, i.e., they're working at popular club at busy hours and making good money, have surgeries that are working for them. The proof is in the pudding.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:23 PM
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That's one type of body, but considering it's a smaller subset of strippers that have BBLs, I wouldn't say that's the only, or even the majority of attractive stripper bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:56 PM
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Go to any popular strip club in a big city at their busy hours - those are the bodies that most men find ideal. Face is a lot more subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:35 PM
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Yep. It takes time to get to know someone and I don't know their intentions. If they don't tell me their intentions, I'm not going to assume them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 06:23 PM
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Women usually don't make their intentions explicitly known. For fear of rejection, or because they don't want to "scare him away" or what have you, they go off of the "vibes" and assume - very often mistakenly - that the man is feeling the same way as them. Sometimes they can convince themselves so strongly that they're on the same page that they'll believe they were actively "lied to and used" when they discover they weren't. This is how covert contracts are born. I think this is the most commo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 05:53 PM
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There's a really easy test: if you told them you don't want a relationship, would they still consent to sex? If the answer is no, you're using them. If the answer is yes, then tell them you don't want a relationship and you don't have anything to worry about. No. The real test is if she COMMUNICATED that she wants a relationship with you and you tell her you do too so you can smash, then they are using her for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 05:45 PM
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intentionally being vague about your feelings in order to get a woman into bed, that is 'using a woman'. That's not how boundaries work. If someone is being vague about their feelings, it's up to YOU to get clarification. It's up to YOU to ask the person's intentions and then proceed or not depending on the answer. If YOU consent to a sexual encounter without stating your intentions and the man doesn't state his intentions either, then no one was used for sex. Lying is a problem, yes, but I'm ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 04:51 PM
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I think you'll find that a lot of men are like this, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 04:45 PM
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What you call semantic hair-splitting, I call an important distinction. Initiating an interaction with a stranger is an unsung act of courage. We all know that men generally do the initiating in the face of it going horribly wrong and being labeled as a creep. Saying that women are the ones that generally initiate is a slap in the face to those men. Otherwise, yes we agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 05:28 PM
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I wouldn't describe any of those behaviors as initiating interactions. They're covert signals for the man to initiate an interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 04:19 PM
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And all of those things men can do, so is it really that men need women more than women need men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 07:17 AM
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At the same time, sex is communication. Agreed, but it's also the responsibility of the individual to communicate and not expect their partner to coax it out of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 04:52 PM
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Because most men have two standards for attraction. The low bar for sex and the high bar for relationships. She meets their low bar for sex and doesn't mean their high bar for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 09:54 PM
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If you define approach as "approaching a stranger you are attracted to and attempting to start a conversation," then no, the majority of women do not do this, no matter how much they like the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:57 PM
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What does “woke” even mean lol * If you think our primary social identity is race, gender, or sexual orientation. * And you believe those identities can be arranged in a hierarchy of privilege and oppression. * And you believe that equality of outcome for those groups in every sphere (economic, social, cultural) is a moral imperative. * And you believe liberal principles like universalism, tolerance of dissent, presumption of innocence, and open discourse must be discarded in pursuit of that goa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 04:53 PM
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Money doesn't cure blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:44 PM
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Because women know that a title means something. If you aren't his girlfriend, then you haven't met his standards for a committed relationship. Saying, "the man I deserve is the man that is emotionally attached to me, but isn't my boyfriend," is a stupid way to judge her attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 06:21 AM
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Then wouldn't the logical thinking be that she's on the level of the man that will commit to her, not sleep with her? "Fake emotional attachment" sounds like complete BS as justification when she really knows that it's the GF title that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:04 AM
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But men are changing and adapting by only seeking short term flings because the incentive for long lasting relationships is no longer there. The standards are higher than they’ve ever been but the incentives is the lowest it’s ever been for men. High risk, low reward. Just as women are discovering that they don't need men, men are discovering they don't need women. Probably why we're seeing so many situationships and FWBs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 05:53 PM
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Go to a popular strip club in a big city, the late night hours on the weekend. Not all of the dancers will have great faces, but you'll see a majority of 10 bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 06:49 AM
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TRP is apolitical.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 03:00 AM
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Considering no one is perfect and everyone has their own personal struggles, yes, yes I do. Those men HAVE dated. Those men may be more socially isolated than they would like, even when in a relationship. Those men still have to deal with gender dynamics in their relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 10:02 PM
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They're not secretly struggling in silence. Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 09:12 PM
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I don't know any guys like that or guys that are struggling with their personal/social lives either. I doubt it. It's more likely that you don't SEE or HEAR that they are struggling with their personal/social lives. The great thing about Reddit is that it's as anonymous as you would like to be, so now men are speaking up without fear of having their reputation destroyed. When I talk to my good male friends, we talk about women, dating, sex, and all kinds of social issues. Believe me when I say t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 09:00 PM
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I take everything I read on the internet with a huge grain of salt. I'd recommend doing the same for your own sanity and emotional health
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 07:43 AM
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It's less about "not having a chance" and more about it being harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 07:31 PM
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5'9" is literally the average height of men in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 07:15 PM
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I'm not actively looking for a partner and the FWBs/situationships that I've developed over the years make it easy not to care enough to look.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 02:53 PM
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My favorite prediction is that as soon as someone creates a popular AI powered OLD helper app, it's game over for OLD. Men will start using Stable Diffusion to create an abundance of fake profile pics so they can have those professional photos showing off a generic and believable lifestyle. ChatGPT to write the perfect openers based on a text description of his match's profile pictures and bio. ChatGPT jailbroken and primed with confident/flirty/funny tone to generate the perfect replies. Male A…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 05:54 AM
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SRI medication, hormonal birth control, over reliance on sex toys, lack of ability to pair bond from a promiscuous past / sexual trauma, and emotional unhealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 11:09 PM
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If women can get the "ick," so can men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 10:04 PM
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You'll have to jailbreak it with DAN if you want a non-PC answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:50 PM
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My money is on current AI technology making all content on the internet worthless to the point where it's synonymous with "make believe." Good bye whatever small amount of validity that was left in social media and OLD. Fake text, fake photos, fake voice, fake video, fake lifestyle, and fake persona. Trust only what you experience in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 10:22 PM
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You're very welcome. If I had those answers I'd probably be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 04:41 AM
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The ole "men struggling, women most affected" meme. Look at the world around you and tell me you see a world where hard work is rewarded. Where the value we create is equal to the value exchanged. Average men do not want to be slave wave robots so we can just masturbate and play video games in our free time. Some are bucking the system and doing what they can to save money and work on themselves. Some have given into despair and are merely existing, sedated by technical pleasures. Very few are p…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 12:14 AM
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Just say it gives you the "ick." If women use it as a catch all justification, then so can men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 10:25 PM
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Nope. The point is not the why, but the what. Want proof that the average guy is struggling? Make an average guy profile and find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:46 PM
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Deflection
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:35 PM
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Strawman. TRP does not teach men to believe that women should have pity sex, to punish single moms, and to get justice on a woman that rejected a man romantically.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 07:37 AM
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Why should anyone bother explaining anything to you when you've already used 5 paragraphs to answer your own question? If you really wanted others to explain, your post would have ended before you started your massive strawman starting at the word "because."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 07:26 AM
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Doesn't sound mad to me
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:42 AM
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I see the opposite every day
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 05:59 PM
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Make an OLD profile for an average male, try to land a date with a woman you'd want your hypothetical son to date, and report back your findings
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 05:49 PM
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Open isn't the right word. They should treat the person with common courtesy if said person is making an honest effort to approach you respectfully. The reason? Approaching strangers for romantic intentions is typically the burden of men. No man is born with superhuman properties that makes him impervious to the fear of rejection and humiliation. It takes practice and loads of failure to build confidence and competency. Unless women want to pick up that burden (which is what many modern men are …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 08:08 PM
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I didn't say "it's only logical." I'm explaining why that particular job leans heavily on emotions. To put it simply, Jobs that focus on people prioritize the mechanics of emotions. Jobs that focus on things prioritize the mechanics of logic. That's not to say that either job is completely void of the other quality, but what each type leans towards.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 02:28 AM
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When it comes to teaching - how a teacher makes their students feel has a big impact on the students learning. A completely deadpan, monotone teacher that presents information plainly, purely as data, would most likely have a lot of students tuning out and not learning. I'm sure that same dynamic exists with therapists and their patients. I'm not so sure how that would relate to psychology as a purely academic study.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 01:42 AM
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Let's say you're looking for a boyfriend, but every guy you choose to go out with fucks you before securing commitment and then ghosts you. Let's say this goes on for two years. Do you choose to believe that all men are trash or that the men you're choosing to entertain see themselves as out of her league for a relationship? Which one makes more logical sense? Currently we see many American women choosing to believe the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 07:14 PM
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Wanting a trad-wife is a strawman. It's about personalities, values, and behaviors, which are not exclusively in the realm of being a trad-wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 07:00 PM
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Watch what they do, not what they say
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 06:12 PM
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Nope. Large metropolitan area. OLD a year ago was better, and a year ago from then, even better. It's gotten progressively worse throughout the years and one match a week is absolutely the average male experience after the newbie boost is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 07:24 PM
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They could actually do this by creating a male profile with an average guy with a good haircut and professional photos and then actually land a date with someone they'd like for their hypothetical son to date. And if that's too much work, just watch some YouTube videos where that experiment was carried out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:39 PM
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Until you've created an average male profile and tried to land a date with someone you'd want your son to date, you really have no business critiquing the average male experience on OLD. You couldn't possibly fathom how difficult it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:35 PM
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Maybe you aren't as average as you think, are less discerning on who you swipe right on, and/or haven't used OLD in awhile. This is absolutely the average male experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:31 PM
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Not a thing. Watch what they do, not what they say
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 06:41 PM
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It's as insane as you imagined. Just look at our media for all the clues
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 06:23 PM
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Yep. They're purposely blank slates so the reader can project themselves onto them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 11:20 PM
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The fact that you think being attractive is somehow equal to asking someone else out on a date speaks volumes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 08:28 AM
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That would require women asking men out on dates and escalating to intimacy, which typically doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 08:03 AM
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It's funny how so many of your examples require zero risk of rejection and the ones that do are well after she knows the guy likes her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 07:34 AM
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I'm not sure what this has to do with blue/red pill...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 10:01 PM
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Those are the prescriptions of individuals. TRP is not prescriptive. TRP is a praxeology.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 08:35 PM
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Your first paragraph is TRP. Your last paragraph is a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 08:19 PM
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Yep. That's why I take posts like the OP's with a huge grain of salt. Dare to acknowledge an unflattering aspect of women's human nature = misogyny. Unless I see some actual examples, I'm not buying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 06:06 PM
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He could also be feigning ignorance. Smart men know that you do not talk about fight club.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 05:15 PM
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Casual dating
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 06:03 AM
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Same. I only learned about "multi-dating" after learning about the way that women date. Multiple suitors - men in the "talking stage," men on standby in their "orbit," men they're "dating," and men that they're having NSA sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 10:47 PM
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What the heck does "Talking phase of a relationship" even mean? If I'm only talking to you and haven't gone on a single date, there's no way in hell I'm even considering you for a relationship yet. That only happens when we meet and go on a series of dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 10:39 PM
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Why is it that everything males do is in pursuit of pussy? Like, is sex all you guys think about? Are you human? How are we supposed to take you seriously when you refuse to live life because you aren't entitled to pussy? When you regularly have sex, it means almost nothing. When you haven't had sex in years, it's the single most important thing in the world. Couple that with the effects of a normal male testosterone hormone balance and it's not really hard to see why sex means so much to so man…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 02:53 AM
0

Ironically, a woman's league is whom they can retain, yet they often base their league on the guys that will pump and dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 06:44 PM
5

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 07:27 AM
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And dating as a man "the odds are bad, the goods are odd, and you take what you can get."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 07:26 AM
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Modern men are scared that they aren’t wanted like they were that long ago and it’s true. Sorry. Scared? That sounds like projection. Women are free to do what they want to do, but all the cries of "where are all the good men?" are going to be met with the acknowledgement that your situation is a direct result of your choices and it has nothing do with with a lack of "good men."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 11:54 PM
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Casual dating is a thing and multi-dating is a thing, so just saying "we're dating" does not constitute a a committed relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 07:29 PM
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you are not dating Or you're just casually dating and not in a committed relationship, i.e., still single.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 06:57 PM
1

Words of wisdom
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:16 AM
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I read your whole post and I'm sorry to hear that you've had a rough go of things. One overarching theme is that you care far too much about what other people think. Boys are making fun of you? Throw the burn right back at them. The woman you're romantically interested in wants to just be friends? "Sorry, that's not what I'm looking for." It sucks that life isn't fair, that it's hard, that most people will not understand your struggle, but deep down we're all struggling with something. You're in…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:12 AM
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Well said. And you gave me a nice boost of motivation
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 01:56 AM
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Because you're already friends with your friends. We're talking about approaching women and making flirty conversation with someone that's likely to be a stranger. Ever see a post where a woman laments that a man won't approach her, everyone tells her to make the approach, and she says she won't because she's scared of rejection? Well, the same goes for men. Confidently approaching people with romantic intentions takes courage and practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 12:18 AM
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Odds of being sexually assaulted or raped as an adult woman is 1 in 4 Is that that faulty study that included just about everything under the sun as SA? Link to the study you're referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 11:11 PM
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You describe flirting as a selfish, narcissist action designed to trick others. You're putting words in my mouth. When it’s actually normal, typical, healthy banter and generally beneficial flattery towards another person. Which takes practice. Don’t use others to learn. Actually enjoy the process and appreciate others’ company and input. Imagine thinking confidently approaching stranger and having social skills is just something you're born with. Completely lacking empathy. Unbelievable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 04:30 PM
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If you can't at least admit that it takes practice to have social skills, to approach strangers, to flirt, to lead the conversation, etc. then there's no point in having a conversation with you. You are completely ignorant of the male experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 04:08 PM
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I'm not angry. Maybe you're projecting. It sucks that women have to be practiced on and it sucks that men have to practice, but we can't just manifest relationships unless women want to switch roles. Good luck making that happen en masse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 03:53 PM
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This is the real answer. Men have to take back the authority that comes with the responsibility that women still expect of them. Do what you have to do and stop giving fuck what other's think, as long as you're making an honest attempt at doing the right thing. Try, fail, and try again. This is the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 02:26 AM
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The problem is that it takes courage and practice to not make a bumbling first approach. If women are going to label those approaches as "creepy" and shame those men on social media or make a big stink about it in public, inexperienced men will stop approaching in mass, which is what appears to be happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 02:21 AM
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That is absolutely not the first move. Someone has to break the barrier of approaching and starting the conversation. THAT is the first move and it takes a lot of guts to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 02:16 AM
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People have different boundaries around how they'll treat a FWB. If you want consent to be in an exclusive relationship, then ask for consent. Interpretations of actions do not constitute consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 07:22 AM
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And men and women tend to see "dating"differently. He's casually dating all of them, but she's dating with the assumption it's exclusive, even though consent for exclusivity was never given.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 07:50 PM
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Examples? If cuck and simp are being used to describe what those words actually mean, then yeah, you should have some God damn self respect and not do those things. I would categorize showing another man that he's letting himself be disrespected as building him up when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 08:49 PM
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Funny you say that. I remember making out with a woman in the backseat during a drive in movie a couple summers ago and she told me during the make out session that she likes feeling small.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 03:59 PM
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Great post. I'd also like to add that approaching a woman with tact takes practice. It seems like women have this notion that men are super human and have skill right off the bat. It takes trying, failing, trying, and more failing to get to a point where you're comfortable and confident in approaching a stranger with romantic intentions. A "creepy guy" approach is often just a normal guy that has approach anxiety and hasn't done it often and consistently.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 03:15 AM
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It would say a lot about your insecurities. It's perfectly normal for a person to have a gender preference in the person that will be touching them for an hour or more.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:47 PM
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OP is most definitely not using the average 18-21 year old guy to make their point. So why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:33 PM
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So basically verification via real life, non-digital evidence, reporting, etc. - the way it was done prior to the widespread use of the internet. Doesn't sound so bad honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:39 PM
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The genie is already out of the bottle. The software is freely available, you can run it locally, and you can train your own models based on your own offline images. We'll probably see individuals having second thoughts about putting their likeness on the internet. I can see this having a large impact on social media and dating apps - no one will know what's real and what's fake online anymore and the only verification will be real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 09:00 PM
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Yep. Men aren't "shaming women for the crime of aging." That's a strawman. They're pointing out that many women will take for granted their dating/relationship value in their 20s and then settle in their 30s for the man that they passed over in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 08:30 PM
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Unless we get to hear the other person's side of the story, man or women, it's a forum that's ripe for abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 05:08 PM
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I mean she looks 30+ for sure but for to pass as 30-something at 50 is incredible. That's you. She doesn't look like a 30 something to me and I suspect a lot of men would say the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:02 PM
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​ Right, but it does that for most women too. So it's kinda like saying, "well I'm sleepy now so go masturbate if you want what I just had. I'm too tired to do anything else now" Wrong. While women can feel sleepy after an orgasm, there's still a hard cock that's capable of fucking her. And let's be honest here, it's men that are doing the fucking and women that are doing the receiving. You can receive and enjoy cock while sleepy. Gotta say, after reading some of these comments I'm even more imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 06:31 PM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 06:15 PM
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Salma Hayek is actually hot and still looks super young. Funny. I'm a man and find that she looks like a grandma with good genetics and a personal trainer. She definitely does not look super young.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 05:54 PM
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Because despite all the cries for making the world less sexist, there's still the sexist belief that the burden of performance is on men. Life would be much better for both men and women if they both parties would take responsibility for communicating what is and is not working during sex and not just expecting the man to "figure it out" through mind reading and coaxing his partner into communicating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 04:26 PM
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But unfortunately this is the issue women will talk about, that in many men's minds, the sex is totally over once he has had an orgasm. And there's good reason for that. After an orgasm, the brain releases hormones that can make you feel happy and sleepy. I know for me that I don't really feel all that sexy during the refractory period and that lack of "sexy feeling" is felt by the women, thus making any playtime after orgasm feel hollow until I'm ready to go again, which can take anywhere betwe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 04:20 PM
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Join a collage/university level English program in a non-western country. Hopefully you can make some scratch and meet a non-western woman that wants to start a serious relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 10:33 PM
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As a wise boy on a Mexican TV show once said, "Perfect men don't really exist, women idealize them." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAyEbrDFFmA
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 06:50 PM
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And there's also the widely circulated study that was debunked when it was found out that researchers incorrectly assigned single women to "husband absent," when all that meant was that the husband had left the room for the questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 05:50 PM
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Falsely? Ok dude. For 99.9% of our existence sex carried the very real repercussion of getting pregnant, which often times led to death or a huge burden. Getting pregnant by a man that wasn't going to stick around was very risky and said something about the woman's character. Just because we have birth control in modern times doesn't erase 300,000 years of history.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 05:32 PM
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It's unlikely that PUAs became more right wing and more likely that you're associating groups you feel negatively towards. Men want to get laid. It's not easy. And it certainly isn't specific to a political party.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 09:02 AM
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This is the way. Although "dance with some girls respectfully and not in a creepy way" is harder than you think. You'll have to meet a very high threshold on the confidence and looks department, and that shit isn't something you're just born with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 04:38 AM
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Nope, but she'll use emotional violence and reputation damage to inflict her damage. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 09:30 PM
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It could be argued that a 30-40 y.o. man will be presented with similar choices today. Not really though. The option to remain single is always going to be an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 11:05 PM
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Men qualify. Women disqualify.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 03:50 PM
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https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/6/4/18650969/married-women-miserable-fake-paul-dolan-happiness "Dolan had misinterpreted one of the categories in the survey, “spouse absent,” which refers to married people whose partner is no longer living in their household, as meaning the spouse stepped out of the room."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 04:46 PM
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Umm.. the stats have always been that women are happier and live longer single with no kids. But make up stats, I guess. That "study" was debunked. https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/6/4/18650969/married-women-miserable-fake-paul-dolan-happiness "Dolan had misinterpreted one of the categories in the survey, “spouse absent,” which refers to married people whose partner is no longer living in their household, as meaning the spouse stepped out of the room."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 04:43 PM
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when they are so uncommon. Probably not as uncommon as you think. OLD and social media are connecting people of all ages, so where a younger woman didn't have access to a pool of older men in the past, they now do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 04:08 PM
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I think unless it's a clear sugar baby situation where everyone gets something and no one deludes themselves,I think they tend to be unbalanced and unhealthy. So you don't see an issue if it's age gap prostitution, but take out the financial transaction, and it's unhealthy and unbalanced. Wild times we live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 04:05 PM
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Sure. It's been my experience that women with genuine desire will do their best not to scare the man off by seeming too needy for a relationship. They'll flirt, banter, and generally are more fun to date. A woman that has her list of requirements and isn't afraid to fire off questions related to what she expects in a boyfriend probably sees herself as the prize and doesn't give AF if she scares you off. That is to say, she's had her fun and is now ready to settle down with the dutiful nice guy s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 09:05 PM
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When your dates feel more like interviews
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 08:37 PM
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I cook, clean, and do laundry for myself and I'm impressed when I find a woman that does as well, because it's so rare nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 03:53 PM
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Highly doubt they're opting out of sex completely. A woman saying they're single by choice is like a man saying he's celibate by choice. It's akin to saying "you can't fire me! I quit!"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 06:43 PM
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Yep. All the bars around my area are pretty evenly split. In fact, there's usually more women than men. OLD is a sausage fest that skews heavily in the favor of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 08:19 AM
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Are people actually surprised that some people in their 20's want to have no strings attached fun while some people in their 30's have other long term goals in mind? And are people surprised that someone that didn't get to participate in NSA fun in their 20s is now enjoying NSA fun in their 30s when the qualities that make them attractive are in full swing?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 04:37 AM
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For a man to get the "last laugh" after years of being rejected would be for him to work his ass off to become attractive enough to regularly bang young hotties, have threesomes, and decide for himself when he wants to be committed to the best of his many options. Your version of the "last laugh" is to have him be the consolation prize to the woman that "lived laughed loved" until she finally decided to settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 02:04 AM
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That's a very female centric way of looking at it. A man will die a virgin if he doesn't put in the effort. Same cannot be said about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 07:37 AM
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Men have to put in a great deal more effort to obtain sex. Women do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 06:57 AM
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How is it hating on men to say “this guy is married” or “this guy is also dating me” or “this guy touched me inappropriately and got angry when I didn’t have sex with him”? Please explain Because it's a one sided story and we don't get to hear the man's side. People can be vindictive and make false accusations.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 04:25 PM
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If a guy is cheating on his wife then he isn’t an innocent man. And if a guy isn't cheating on his wife and a woman falsely accuses him of cheating on his wife, he's an innocent man and the woman is a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 04:23 PM
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Are conventionally unattractive guys kinder, more loyal, more appreciative, and better providers and protectors? Depends on the individual, but the issue is that he's unlikely to commit given that he has an abundance of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 04:18 PM
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Nothing bad I've experienced during a hookup has been even a fraction as bad as the worst things I've experienced with my serious boyfriends. Gentlemen, take notes
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 06:32 AM
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It's really not that deep. Men get aroused through their eyes and a in-shape body of a woman in her early 20s is extremely arousing to most men. Wrinkles, saggy skin, and hair that's lost its luster tends to have the opposite effect. But some men are different and have socially conditioned themselves to accept what they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 06:30 AM
1

So you believe attraction is a choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 09:12 AM
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There's also cases where a guy may be good at attracting women, gets his life completely turned upside down from a BPD/toxic/crazy ex, starts looking for resources, finds TRP, and connects the dots.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 09:01 PM
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Not really. Blackpillers lean heavily on that point, but they're mostly just nihilists.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 08:56 PM
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Again I repeat why care? That even further begs the question. If it’s a women’s dating issue. Because this is a debate forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 05:57 PM
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Men and women have different dating issues. Women typically do not care about men's dating issues and men typically do not care about women's dating issues. It's up to women to solve their own issues, just like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 05:35 PM
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"a man better than you for her needs in every single way" Except in his willingness to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 05:33 PM
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Getting flown out. Also, it's not hard to see that even having access to men in her very close range via OLD is very different than having access IRL. OLD is like having every singles bar in your town in your pocket.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 04:33 PM
2

Just because they're invisible to you doesn't mean they don't exist
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 03:57 PM
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Yep. I was already pretty good with women before I knew about the red pill. I would say that it was interacting with an abundance of women that red pilled me more than any online discussion. The trope that it's mostly incels that are red pilled isn't accurate in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 11:30 PM
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The current online zeitgeist is "ew, old men dating young women is gross," yet when I was doing online dating, I had no problem matching and dating women that were significantly younger than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 05:06 PM
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Hygiene typically refers to how you care for your body, not the cleanliness of your home, although they're likely correlated.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 07:41 AM
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And you respond with insults and personal attacks. Amazing
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 08:37 AM
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While I agree with you, the majority of men I see arguing in good faith are responding using plain language and telling it as it is. There are plenty of immature folks on both sides that muddy the water with insults and derogatory terms, but there does seem to be a lot of disagreement on what a man should want, rather than what he actually wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 07:11 AM
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This is what scientists call an evolutionary mismatch, i.e. recent technologies do not override thousands of years of evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 02:45 AM
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Because those terms are meant to be insults and have little bearing on reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 08:53 PM
1

Shifting the goal post. You said I was wrong about getting men they actually desire to have relationships with and now you're shifting it back to just "getting men."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 08:24 PM
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And I think you're wrong. The kind of women that you're describing don't respect their men, as those men do not respect themselves for putting up with it. They are not the men they want. They're the men they settle for.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 07:56 PM
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attractive enough, arousing enough rather Is what the commentor said. It wasn't about being only visually attractive or smooth with his words, but all around attractive and arousing to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 05:42 PM
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I found this to be true as well. Good dick game is also a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 05:39 PM
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"Get men" to sleep with them - yes "Get men" that they actually desire to have a relationship that lasts longer than a few months - unlikely
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 04:57 PM
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Agreed. I've never met a self described 'brat' that wasn't a complete pain in the ass to deal with outside of the bedroom. I now see it as a red flag until shown otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 04:51 PM
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When he argues with her or continues to talk about something that she's obviously not into or is turning her off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 03:25 AM
1

Or maybe, just maybe, men want peace and don't really care how much money you make outside of your ability to support yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 02:21 AM
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Then you're no longer red pilled and you're purple pilled, i.e., you understand the fundamental nature of men and women, choose to enter a relationship anyways, and you keep your guard up. Simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 10:35 PM
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You "Who are these single not single women sleeping with then?" Answer "FWB, exes, hookups, ONS, etc." You "…is the answer men?" Answer "That would depend on their sexual preference." You "Are you saying that most single women are lesbians? Answer "Nope. I'm answering your questions."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:56 PM
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Nope. I'm answering your questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:45 PM
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That would depend on their sexual preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:27 PM
1

FWB, exes, hookups, ONS, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 05:39 PM
2

When to call it sex 101: If your girlfriend/wife pointed at another woman and asked if you had sex with her, would you say yes or no if it was only oral and would she be mad if you said no, and later found out she gave you head.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 04:25 PM
2

Please provide your source
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 04:40 PM
1

studies show single women are happier Is that the same flawed study where the researches mistakenly labeled single women "without husband," when that really meant that the husband left the room?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 04:08 PM
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a study that showed older single women were happier than married ones. Is that the same flawed study where the researches mistakenly labeled single women "without husband," when that really meant that the husband left the room?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 04:07 PM
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Strawman. Men aren't constantly posting that they prefer teenage girls. Early and mid twenties, yes, but I do not see constant posts about men preferring teenagers. OP is trying to make it seem like men posting here are pedophiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 03:53 PM
1

A misandrist dog whistle for "hey everyone, hate on this loser."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 03:46 PM
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Sorry I couldn't hear you over the "incel" dog whistle
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 07:24 AM
3

Hence the 80/20 rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 04:43 PM
1

It really depends on how it comes up. Kind of like how so many women will say, "if he calls himself an alpha, he isn't one." If you say "I have a degree" to prove some point, rather than an actual conversation about education, it just makes you sound dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 08:13 AM
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I'd pass
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 09:10 PM
1

Deleting your comment to cover your tracks
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 09:02 PM
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You won't change any minds if all you've got is shaming language and personal attacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 07:28 PM
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Then they aren't complaining and don't have anything to do with the topic at hand. We're talking about people that are complaining, not the ones living their best lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 09:27 PM
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Agreed. And women should take responsibility for their own actions. Ask for commitment after sleeping with a guy and he says no, that's on you. Sleep around and turn off a large portion of men, that's on you. Act masculine and turn off a large portion of men, that's on you. Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 09:13 PM
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In some ways they're the same and some ways different. My BP friends typically have dates that lead no where. Mine typically lead to sex on the first date, sometimes second date. They will sometimes get friend-zoned, while this never happens for me. They're also more quick to commit and will girlfriend up a woman they've only been on a few dates with and have known less than a month. Our experiences are the same in that we both have to put in a ton of effort just to get a single date. Lots of ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 07:48 PM
3

"It's not what you said, but how you said it."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:38 PM
2

Yep. Change doesn't typically happen until they hit rock bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 12:51 AM
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A lot of mental health issues are actually emotional health issues. Emotional health issues can be resolved with proper education and a reframing of perception.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 12:22 AM
4

You ask a woman out as soon as you have romantic interest and have shared a receptive conversation. You cease contact if you're rejected. It doesn't matter if you're average or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 05:51 PM
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Can't wait to read all the PC responses
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 08:24 AM
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And yet I'm getting downvoted for telling the truth. You can't make this shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:52 PM
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"But if you're not managing to get any sex on your side, that might just be a "you" issue, not an open relationship issue." Nope. It's a gender issue. Most men will gladly fuck a woman in an open relationship. Most women will disqualify a man for being in an open relationship before he even gets to the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 09:14 PM
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"Monkey branching is the idea that women will leave a committed relationship if they can be with a higher-status male." "If the idea of monkey branching is true, we would expect that some amount of time after a divorce (say, 1 year) a higher percentage of women will have remarried than men." That's not what monkey branching means. Monkey branching is staying in a relationship (holding onto the first branch), lining up your next mate (grabbing the next branch), and then breaking up/cheating on yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 08:49 PM
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Then by that logic, women should stop complaining about hook up culture when they're the ones willingly participating in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:59 PM
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Women are the gatekeepers of sex, not men. Don't want a hookup? Then don't have sex with someone before establishing commitment. Men aren't responsible for fixing women's dating issues, just as women aren't responsible for fixing men's dating issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:42 PM
1

"The common thing I see in the dating advide for men is that basically, women are just emotionless enemies that expect me to be perfect and have money. That want to marry just to steal my stuff and cheat on me." Strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 04:07 PM
1

I'd rather date someone in their mid twenties, get to know each other over 2-3 years, and then have a couple children.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 04:00 PM
2

It's a shame they used BMI, as muscular men can be classified as overweight depending on their height and build. I know I was. I'm also muscular and according to the BMI I'm overweight. My primary doctor said to disregard the BMI in my case, so I can only imagine some men are also being miscategorized.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 07:11 AM
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Most men aren't participating in the hookup culture, as most men barely get dates. Only a minority of men are able to participate in hookup culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 06:04 AM
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Agreed. A generation of women that want relationships, but still want to retain a singles lifestyle. That's a nope for me, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:45 AM
2

I didn't downvote you and it's not personal. Dad bods are anything but dad like. It takes years of discipline and eating right to get a muscular physique, so calling it a dad bod really undermines the extraordinary effort it takes to get fit and perpetuates unrealistic standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 02:40 AM
2

Then it's a really shitty, misleading name to give that physique.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:29 AM
3

Great. Has nothing to do with dad bods not being the average dad body.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 07:02 PM
3

Dad bods are not the average dad body. Use all the mental gymnastics you want, but that fact ain't changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 06:53 PM
1

Status. It's not about the actual importance of the education, but what it conveys as a status symbol to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 06:24 PM
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Obesity statistics say otherwise. "Dad bod" is a misleading term that does more harm than good for the mental health of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 05:39 PM
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So not the average dad body
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 03:56 PM
3

I wouldn't call it paralysis, as that would imply they're not going on dates. I'd call it FOMO, as it gives the illusion of infinite, possibly better options. And I wouldn't say it applies to both genders. Women yes, the vast majority of men, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 04:17 PM
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An average man's standards are equal to the most attractive woman he can sleep with. For an average woman, the most attractive man she can get to commit to a relationship. Thinking we can get anything above that is a fool's errand.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 07:25 AM
0

That's an assumption you made off of a reply that brought up many points. You sound just as biased as him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 01:29 AM
1

Yet you keep engaging. A victim isn't a victim if they're lying about the alleged victimization. They're a liar and the person they're lying about is the victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 08:22 PM
1

Then you're being obtuse. Online forums can't gatekeep not "normal people" from using their forum. Keep in mind that we're talking generally about "bad dating behavior," which is what the OP is talking about. Jumping to false rape allegations just shows me that you're arguing in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 08:14 PM
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Yet not "normal people" exist. Yet people still commit awful deeds, like false allegations. Every person on planet earth has the capacity to lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 08:01 PM
1

So only predators lie? Again, you're being obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 07:42 PM
1

On planet Earth. It's easy to spot, yet people fall for lies all the time. You're being obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 07:18 PM
2

Acting like pettiness and lying don't exist
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 07:10 PM
1

So only men have the capacity to lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 07:03 PM
1

The majority of men don't really care. A degree won't tell you if she's physically attractive, actually smart, has a great personality, and isn't a pain to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 01:01 AM
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Actions speak louder than words.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 12:57 AM
2

Seems like an idea that is ripe for abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 12:54 AM
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For men, it's who they can obtain (sex) and for women who they can retain (relationships). Men and women have different mating strategies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 06:15 PM
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Doubt it. It's not rational, it's not fair. It's a biological "ick" feeling, the same way that women have biological "ick" feelings for men for any number of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 07:47 PM
1

I think it says a lot about the person's ability to judge character. A few failed long term relationships, sure, but a serious of failed long term relationship makes me think that you are not learning from your mistakes and/or you're looking for commitment just for the sake of commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 04:59 PM
1

Tell that to the chads that had slump busters. Their lived experience tells a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 05:46 PM
0

The RP people of this sub would say that's exactly the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 05:02 PM
1

Do you think so few women are on Tinder because they fucking love to bone 10/10 Chads every weekend? Nope, but I wouldn't discount them hoping they will lock down a chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 04:35 PM
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Strawman argument. If OP said "men desire skinny women," that would be more accurate, but also a stupid, pointless post to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 07:59 AM
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So who cares. Last I checked, women are already selecting from a small pool of men, so bringing up the exceptions doesn't really add anything to the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 07:26 AM
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Because we're adults and it's assumed we're talking about things generally and not the exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 07:24 AM
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Would you say that women are insecure for getting the ick from men they deem losers?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 07:23 AM
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Gives most the ick, a smaller amount don't care, and a small minority like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:47 PM
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I've never heard a single man say it's because of dick size or being scared of her previous lovers. I have heard men say that it's because a high n count impacts her ability to pair bond and that it's a hardwired primal instinct for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:47 PM
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The premise of your argument shows your bias. High n count women don't make men feel insecure. It gives them the female equivalent of "the ick."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:33 PM
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You can't be serious. A sexual partner is someone you had sex with. ONS and flings implies you had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:43 PM
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I can't speak for all men, but I've mostly stopped looking for a committed relationship. I still casually date, as I enjoy sex and intimacy, but many of the women I meet out in the real world end up having major red flags that come to light after a few months of dating that would make them horrible bets for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:34 AM
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Top tier men for her in the context of her own level, whether perceived or real.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 08:03 AM
2

And fuckboy is often used as a degrading term for promiscuous men. I'd be a happy man if all the shaming language was dropped.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:40 AM
2

Men adapt to women's behavior. We have a pretty good idea that if we aren't physically intimate by date 3, she'll probably be with someone else and we'll get ghosted/friend zoned/rejected for another date.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 03:59 PM
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You talk to them like a normal person, don't put out too soon if that's something you're concerned about, and, you know, get to know them as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 02:49 AM
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The ultra cynical read I'm getting from the detractors: "Men that have had time to establish themselves, build social skills, and confidence, things that women of all ages generally find very attractive, should not use their dating market value to attract younger partners that they're naturally attracted to because obviously that would be a power imbalance, and we care so much about other women. Believe us, we really do care about the private lives of other individuals that are not breaking the …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 09:06 PM
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You started your comment with an ad hominem attack. There's really no need to take anything you say seriously after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 06:52 PM
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The completely arbitrary, made up one
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 06:46 PM
2

Haha I don't care
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 06:20 PM
10

So she made a strawman argument
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 08:37 AM
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It's been my experience that you can please one woman to climax vaginally within 15 minutes of sex and foreplay, and others won't be pleased even if you're the reincarnation of Casanova with his tongue on fire. You know the big difference between the two groups? The woman. Some had their emotional health in order, could communicate, weren't on SRIs, and some were insanely insecure and we're very emotionally unhealthy. There's enough accountability to spread for both parties if you're not getting…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 06:31 AM
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I came here to post this. Never met a single woman that was celibate for more than a couple months. It's only the small percentage of men that can date around, have sex, and never commit/ remain single.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 01:43 AM
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If we're to believe another Reddit in this post, a woman that has horrendous men shoot their shot at her, these women would have other ways of shooting their shot that doesn't involve matching.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 03:20 AM
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Zero. Most of the men I know consider it prostitution and aren't interested in transactional sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 09:10 AM
0

Don't forget protection. If there's a loud noise at the entrances to our home, are we taking turns investigating?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:07 PM
15

Women have an invested interest in painting all women in a positive light, because they are women and pointing out unfaltering aspects of women's human nature is just that, unflattering.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 07:25 PM
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Ego investment and cognitive dissonance
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 07:20 PM
1

That's rich
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:31 AM
7

You're part of the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 06:43 AM
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After joining this sub a couple weeks back I've come to the realization that arguments against TRP are mostly strawman arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 10:52 PM
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I see a lot of this. If I had to guess, it's what happens when someone doesn't like the way something they read makes them feel, so they misread, misinterpret, and misrepresent what was actually written. Unless I see the examples, I ain't buying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 08:29 AM
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I know it's anecdotal, but I specifically started posting on Reddit after lurking because I was sick of reading men speak the honest truth and then being labeled as an incel. The "incel rhetoric" wasn't far off from my experiences, having done everything from casual dating, FWBs, situationships, hookups, and even two long term relationships of more than a few years each. Now I get the pleasure of being labeled an incel, when I've never been more sexually active in my life. Can't make this shit u…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 08:20 AM
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That's the nature of anonymous/ semi-anonymous internet discussion forums. Think of it this way, you might know someone your whole life, someone as close as a brother, sister, best friend, wife, and never really know their private thoughts. Don't underestimate another's ability to have a public side and a private side. It's a very human thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 08:05 AM
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Exactly. Saying that men want virgins is a strawman argument. Most men live in reality and understand that most women past a certain age have had sex at least once.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 07:14 PM
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Best physical shape of my life and had a steady stream of women that couldn't get enough of me. Still got it in my early 40s, but not to the same extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 07:26 AM
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Funny how you start by bringing up how strawman excuses are BS, but the whole argument is based on a strawman. Men aren't out here expecting virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 03:04 PM
1

I don't quite have those numbers, but when I was actively dating I was pretty successful. Here are some key concepts: Sourcing - it's a numbers game. The more women you meet, the more chances you have of finding women that are into you. Logistics - Evening dates that are close to your home. Drinks, dessert, and/or a walk. Understanding women - Focus on having a good time. Flirt. Engage their emotions. Once you start having serious conversations or even worse, debating, it's likely not going to e…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 08:30 PM
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I have no idea what this has to do with what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 07:02 PM
1

And if neither parties are upfront with their intentions and have sex anyways?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:43 AM
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And what if neither parties are not upfront and honest about the true nature of the sexual encounter? Are you saying the onus is in the man if the woman chooses to keep her intentions secret?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:36 AM
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Moved in before or after the divorce was filed?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 05:02 AM
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Depends on if it was before or after the divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 05:00 AM
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It's amazing how many of these comments could be answered with the understanding that men have different standards for women they want to have sex with and women they want a relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 08:45 PM
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Never met a woman that didn't have a FWB, situationship, sneaky link, or ex-BF that they went to while they were single. They probably exist, but the more women that I meet, the more I believe that celibate women are a rarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:25 PM
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It's quite literally the first example, made by the OP. Imagine having eyes, spending any amount of time in this sub, and missing the daily commitment/ high n count discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 02:48 AM
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For a relationship the male equivalent of an "ick" typically comes from finding out she has a high body count, been with someone in your family, a friend, or a foe, or did some particularly degrading sex act.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 01:42 AM
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Are you in favor of laws that protect the children aged 18-24 from alcohol, smoking, legal recreational drugs, joining the military, and making porn/OF?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 08:48 PM
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If men and women on average had the same ease of access to casual sex, then yes, it would be hypocritical, but alas, that's not the case
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 07:52 PM
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If there is more to human definitions than just children or adult, then that should also apply to sex and age. The premise of the OP's argument is that the brain isn't fully formed until 25 and that makes them children that cannot consent. If you agree with that statement, then logically you agree that anyone under 25 is still a child and cannot give consent to drink, smoke, gamble, use recreational legal drugs, join the military, and make porn. You don't get to decide if you're a child or adult…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 07:16 PM
0

Why is the rest stupid? If we're going to say that people have undeveloped brains until 25 and are still children, then the logical extension would be that they are still dependents and not adults. We do not allow children to drink, smoke, and do legal recreational drugs. You're either an adult or child.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 05:02 PM
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Do you believe the legal age for making porn/OF content should be 25? How about drinking, driving, smoking, legal recreational drugs, signing up for the military, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:22 PM
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I can't take a post like this seriously without examples. If a statement of fact/opinion hurts your feelings, it's not necessarily shaming. Saying you're a bad person for doing x, y, or z, is shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 03:37 PM
2

This post has the equivalent tone as a "misogynistic incel."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 05:47 PM
5

The world's economies are headed towards the shitter. I expect to see a lot more adults living with their parents. Godspeed
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 02:46 AM
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Of course we have preferences, but men's standards for sexual attraction are pretty low. We're sexually attracted to all kinds of women. That doesn't mean we have the ability to get commitment from women that perfectly fit our preferences. We take the best from whatever options we have.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 01:17 AM
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Of course we have preferences, but men's standards for sexual attraction is pretty low. We're sexually attracted to all kinds of women. That doesn't mean we have the ability to get commitment from women that perfectly fit our preferences. We take the best from whatever options we have.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 01:16 AM
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I find this to be true as well. It's to the point where I won't even ask for a number unless she's giving me clear indicators that she's into me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 12:09 AM
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Ding ding ding
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 08:34 PM
2

A lot of men have an innate feeling of disgust when they find out the women they've been dating had a promiscuous past , so the consequences would be a smaller pool of men that will take her seriously for a relationship should they find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 08:29 PM
2

It's the difference between transactional sex and burning desire sex. We can tell the difference
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 05:10 PM
1

Fairly handsome, fit man checking in. When I was actively pursuing dates, it was tons of effort, physically, mentally, and emotionally, with the results being a stream of steady casual sex. Hard to say it was worth the effort, but I don't regret the experience and I can die without any regrets when it comes to my sexual adventures. The best way I can describe the experience is that it's like walking on a tight rope without a safety net. One wrong move and you're toast. There's no room for vulner…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 09:29 PM
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Fairly handsome, fit man checking in. When I was actively pursuing dates, it was tons of effort, physically, mentally, and emotionally, with the results being a stream of steady casual sex. Hard to say it was worth the effort, but I don't regret the experience and I can die without any regrets when it comes to my sexual adventures. The best way I can describe the experience is that it's like walking on a tight rope without a safety net. One wrong move and you're toast. There's no room for vulner…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 07:31 AM
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Who's to say they already aren't? The world economies are in the shitter right now and most men are going to put a lot of their lives into careers and goals and still get shit on in the end. The rich and richer and the poor get poorer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 07:06 AM
2

Let's not forget sex toys and meds that fuck up libidos. But sure, leave all the responsibility on men for YOUR orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 10:22 AM
9

Checking out the dating subs to have your faith smashed again
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 02:46 AM
7

Remove online dating and social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 09:01 PM
2

Same experience for me, but don't tell that to some of the posters in here who seem to believe that it's super rare for a 20 something year old woman to be attracted to a much older man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 05:19 PM
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/r/AgeGap
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 02:46 PM
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Reality doesn't reflect this. Many women in their 20s are almost exclusively attracted to 30-50 year old men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 07:34 AM
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Matching on dating apps, so she was good looking enough for a hookup. That physical attraction bar is much lower than the bar for relationships, so I'd take that information with a bit of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 07:30 AM
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Looks like this is Bumble. Report her for body shaming.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/08/21 10:46 PM
1

Guilt is feeling like shit for what you've done. Shame is believing you are a piece of shit for what you've done. The difference is subtle, but important.
/r/TheRedPill26/05/21 07:57 PM
1

I'm assuming people holding Android phones in their pics? How are they able to determine that just from a Tinder profile.
/r/askTRP08/03/21 11:47 PM
1

This right here. An emotionally healthy person does not get emotionally enmeshed with an emotionally unhealthy person. People with BPD have a distorted belief about the nature of feelings and their own self worth, which manifests in destructive behavior to themselves and those around the them. A person with a healthy view of their own self worth would not put up with these behaviors.
/r/askTRP08/12/20 06:42 PM
1

Grief from the loss of one's false reality.
/r/TheRedPill22/06/20 11:29 PM
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" No kissing above the neck rules once you walk through my front door." This is a stupid rule. The virus is spread through breathing as well, so if you're breathing in the same enclosed space for more than 10 minutes, you may as well consider yourself germ bonded with that person.
/r/TheRedPill30/04/20 07:36 PM
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Borderline Personality Disorder. Not Bi Polar.
/r/askTRP06/02/20 09:46 PM
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