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| -2 | What do you do when you still miss someone years after seperation?Try staying in contact and then try to make it romantic again. | /r/seduction | 05/01/19 12:00 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Being afraid of rape accusation or being #Metoo'd, is ridiculous compared to the fear of being raped or assaulted.no one would accuse someone of murder while they were performing in Madison Square Garden. You're acting like this is a movie with a professional villain with massive intellect. Take away the professional, realize some people are dumb as hammers, and add to it even smart people can be frazzled and you'll start to see a crime of passion, as it's called, is easily performed with many mistakes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 09:27 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Being afraid of rape accusation or being #Metoo'd, is ridiculous compared to the fear of being raped or assaulted.You're comparing apples and oranges... rape accusations and false rape accusations. Indeed, the number of false rape accusations must be bounded by the number of accusations. There actual comparison is between someone being raped with or without an accusation of it and someone being accused of rape with it being false with or without an accusation of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 05:43 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Being afraid of rape accusation or being #Metoo'd, is ridiculous compared to the fear of being raped or assaulted.Perhaps the inability to prove something actively happened is harder than proving something is a lie since a lie can be proven many different ways from active evidence like a camera to an alibi. On the other hand, to prove something actually bad happened to someone that it happened to, they have to examine one room, one action, and the pieces of evidence it leaves behind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 05:41 PM |
| 10 | CMV: Being afraid of rape accusation or being #Metoo'd, is ridiculous compared to the fear of being raped or assaulted.Your whole post can be summarized as two statistics, so your position is a default win. Yeah, you are more likely to be raped than accused falsely of being raped. Does that discount the fact that men and women can worry about different things? For men, it's much more rational to worry about a false accusation than it being done to them, and for women, it's the opposite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 01:37 AM |
| 3 | Gamers are as bad as drug addicts, and is at very least, a yellow flag to watchAs bad as drug addicts is hyperbolic. They are at least practicing hand-eye coordination, tactics, strategy, socializing somewhat [it's not in person granted], information gathering/gluing when learning a new game, teamwork -- sacrifice for the greater good, not being the star but still deserving the win, modesty after a win, dealing with bad sports. Drug addicts are... high on drugs. They're damaging their brain, body, and attitude as they go deeper into their addiction, removing themselves fro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/19 09:06 PM |
| 1 | TRP Values, What's Good and What's Bad?My worth is related to women finding me attractive. This is a bit misleading, because a decision to do something doesn't automatically fill up your "worthy" meter. A lot of people, in fact, feel worthwhile just because - it's just something you do, live. And it's only by avoiding certain actions like hurting others that they feel worthy. If I were driving down the road, I might want to take one route over another. Would I say I did it, because I wanted to (a desire). Or would I say it fulfilled … | /r/ExRedPill | 27/12/18 03:43 AM |
| 1 | how to game shy/introverted girls?Shy means not very social, and the best way to pull someone out of something is to offer an alternative. Try talking small talk about yourself or the surroundings and not them, since their shyness implies they aren't trying to talk about themselves at that moment. After a little bit, they'll either follow suit and talk about themselves the same way, or they aren't interested in being social still, meaning that's just the way it is. Not a big problem, a person who wants a little quiet time, so le… | /r/seduction | 25/12/18 04:58 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men should focus on good looks first, then maybe personality.The trope is found only in extreme communities like this one. In person, you'll be given the judgment that your appearance deserves based on human intuition. If you're unshaven and smelly, people will note your inability to keep clean, and since that's a more basic maintenance, they'll take it to imply you're not reliable in a neutral sense. That's if you're lucky, they might attach evil tags to you as well like child predator, immoral salesman, or a description befitting the evil determination … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/18 10:29 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Men should focus on good looks first, then maybe personality.It's in the same vein as focusing on looks first. What world would we live in where people didn't say bathe and brush before leaving the house? "Looking good" is a similar thing - wearing comfortable and functional fresh clothes, having your hair out of your eyes, keeping a clean beard, having health from exercise. You have to focus on these types of things first, because they're so fundamental. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/18 03:55 AM |
| 0 | CMV: Men should focus on good looks first, then maybe personality.People should focus on brushing their teeth first. Then they can worry about living past 30. Then they can put on clothes that are functional. That is personality. It's called giving a shit about anything at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 06:00 PM |
| 1 | Men want to be players not because it's their ideal lifestyle but because it is necessary to be noticed by womenAll right, I myself enjoy being entwined -- it ain't dirty. I've always seen it as how tide moves sands except I ignore all this motion and instead think about how we each have our own world we live in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/18 02:25 AM |
| 1 | Men want to be players not because it's their ideal lifestyle but because it is necessary to be noticed by womenI'm not changing your view. I just know what's what, and some men like to have a mass of dirty sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/18 07:45 PM |
| 2 | Divorced men are more likely than women to remarry or partner up than divorced womenGotta be a ho, she sucked him off, divorced the other, and now she just can't take it when she's not with them. I have to agree, men seem to need a support network of getting their rocks off. Hahha, good find. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/18 07:42 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If you want to be successful at perpetuating your family line, have daughters, not sonsBro, you can't choose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/18 07:13 AM |
| 1 | Q4Women: A "sugar babe" by any other name?Shared interests aren't really that different among the different generations that much. Even 60 year olds right now use all the same electronics as 10 year olds do now. It's not like at 30 you just turn off your cultural sensor and stop hearing music on the radio. Yes, you have a core of experiences involving your youthful lack of knowledge that are already complete whereas a college kid might just be beginning them, but that isn't the only thing people like to do with each other. There's all t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/17 11:41 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: A "sugar babe" by any other name?I'm on board with it being ridiculous for a man to stay faithful in a no sex relationship and with keeping her a secret. I don't get the similar interests thing. I've seen older crowds in their 30-40s that still like to hit up the clubs that are playing... music that the kids are listening too. Yes, the 30-40 range will spark up when their club music is played, and sometimes they come together at 90s night spots, but they still hit up more recent shit and fuck with that scene sometimes. It's sti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/17 11:22 PM |
| 0 | Chad isn't realactually yes. But I'm done here, cool man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/17 11:36 AM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't Chad spend time on Reddit?Part of the complexity of describing social shit is the fact that exceptions to the rule almost always seem to exist (There's exceptions here too... like the rule of it's always wrong to murder innocent children seems to have no exception). There'll be a fraction of Reddit that's 'cool', but when they bring it up, they'll do it in a 'cool' way that binds to the values of their audience while adequately representing themselves as a person who can differ from that audience. It's a balancing act. A… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/17 11:27 AM |
| 0 | Chad isn't realpeople who talk about chad don't ever say anything about him that has to do with perfection, that's just your inner desires leaking out where u associate fucking women with perfection rofl... he's just a person with a little smooth talk, a little political / wise thinking, and some passion for something in life rather than being a person with no clear purpose aka boring. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/17 11:11 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Confidence cannot be truly faked.Well duh, the 'fake it' idea given to people who struggle socially is both the only reasonable advice since it gets you experience and unfortunately not very successful advice in the beginning since you're going to fuck it up like you usually do. Any kind of set of guidelines, rules, routines, or mindsets are all just training wheels that help a person get the actual experience. Once they find the real deal, the wheels fall off and off they go riding their bike. I don't subscribe to the TRP idea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/17 07:17 AM |
| 1 | Hypothetically speaking, how could TRP be used immorally?While I've met ethical reds, the vast majority regard dehumanization as a core part of the experience - their awakening. I'm saying this without it being tied to red pill, because I think TRP is retarded. But more or less, you have to develop an understanding that people can use you, and due to that, you sometimes have to put a limit on your kindness especially when it comes to you giving things away like your time, money, or things. That fact is second nature to a lot of people, basically anyon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/17 05:30 AM |
| 3 | How do I get a girls number at the gym?Girls that quiet guys get will usually not be as attractive... that's not saying they will never be attractive. But if you're quiet you have to really be flexing that other vibe like smart, cool, mysterious, rich as fuck, and other auras like that. But other than that, you can't beat good old outgoing charisma, the fun guy who talks and does shit but doesn't necessarily have to have money, mystery, or anything really. | /r/seduction | 21/06/17 07:16 AM |
| 3 | How do I get a girls number at the gym?If you're not outgoing then hitting on women directly is not gonna work... if you're not gonna change then don't do traditional ways of flirting. It's going to be harder, and the women you attract won't be as flashy, sexy, and outgoing either. | /r/seduction | 21/06/17 06:51 AM |
| 2 | How do I get a girls number at the gym?In that situation, if you're feeling like it's awkward to ask for the number, it's because it is a little. You've got to develop a friendly relationship at the gym, at least a small good convo that landed well, before asking for it. And better to ask for it for a specific reason discussed in ur convo. | /r/seduction | 21/06/17 06:47 AM |
| 2 | Are "wow" reaction on a girls "sexy" photos creepy?Stuff like thumbs up, comments, and all that on a girl's photo where she looks good in it is basically a neutral thing, it'll leave you about where you were before as long as you're not doing it in some weird way like all the time on all photos or like only on one person's photos. If you were some weird guy in the shadows before the like, doing that won't make you seem much weirder, and it's not gonna be the thing that proves you're not a creep. If you were a likable person, it's not gonna blow … | /r/seduction | 05/06/17 02:07 AM |
| 2 | How to screen out women who lead men on?As a man, you have to remember women will be flirty, and it'll sometimes not be from a place deep down in her heart that means she wants a fling with you or to date you. It can happen between her and complete friends. I don't mind it, it is what it is. The guard against that is internal, not external. I don't focus on her and how she acts more than I focus on making sure I don't fall in love instantly and unrealistically. I try to step my emotions along from eyes catch her as she walks by all th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/17 08:46 PM |
| 4 | Hey ex-redpill hereTBH, "blue pill" isn't a thing. It's just a bunch of people that find TRP weird. That means even people who practice a philosophy similar to TRP can be "blue pill". Just to reference something that's out there, let's say someone lives the life of a guy using the philosophy in rap songs - it's openly sexist. It emphasizes not caring about women, getting sex from them, and that's pretty much it. There is a weird mix in the culture of being so rich that you pay for women too (buying them very expen… | /r/ExRedPill | 27/05/17 08:28 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Don't you think it's beautiful to fall in love passionately and have deep emotional intimacy and a beautiful, deep love with someone? Do you long to find your soulmate?Well one thing you're forgetting is that deep emotional and intimate sex is possible with multiple people at the same time. Even when I have a chick I see from time to time - we're not committed - but we make each other feel so great when we see each other. All the way from behaving practically like girlfriend boyfriend (doing sweet things for each other) to the passionate sex. The issue is she's not the type to commit to even if it feels like such a right thing to do. And she knows that too, it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/17 08:02 AM |
| 9 | So I'm a loud guy when I'm with my friends but my issue is that when I met new people I draw a blank on what conversations to talk about. Got any ideas?One thing I like to do is just randomly start talking about myself in small segments, and then looking at the person I'm with which invites them to mirror me. So if there's a little silence, I might just say "You know, I have a [brother, friend, teacher, boss] [in this location]. He [does this or that interesting thing] and I feel [this or that way about it]." It's not really the same as you going on and on about yourself, because you're telling stories about other people. A few cool things abou… | /r/seduction | 26/05/17 06:56 PM |
| 1 | The notion that women are all getting "bullshit degrees" is false.Everybody in TRP crows about sociology degrees and women's studies degrees like that is all women do. A lot of people talk about this point, because it's something that comes to mind. And by people, I mean I've heard the point come up from people who don't even know what Reddit is. I don't think it's fair to associate it with TRP, because the question isn't vile or out of bounds. It's just a simple question that's reasonable. It's not about saying women only get a certain type of degree. It's ju… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/17 08:12 AM |
| 3 | The notion that women are all getting "bullshit degrees" is false.Further, I take issue with the idea that the humanities are "worthless." lol I think you're taking the saying a little too literally. It just means there's not as much money in that degree compared to other degrees. It might change by context, but when people say they're worthless, that's what they mean. They're not usually attacking the degree itself as having no actual worth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/17 07:57 AM |
| 1 | A reversal of predictors of sexual frequency and satisfaction within marriageIt's probably because it implies your husband is a grown up and able to take care for himself? Even during times of intense gender roles, a man living alone who had his shit together would still keep his home clean and functioning. It's not like 15 year old boys weren't told to do the dishes in 1940s America just because they had a pair of balls. One of the vaguest ways to describe an attractive person is that they're integrated into society enough, happy with what parts they accept and reject f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/17 03:28 AM |
| 1 | For ex-redpillers; I have a few questions for you?I read your comment three times, just have no idea what you're saying. | /r/ExRedPill | 22/05/17 05:17 AM |
| 2 | For ex-redpillers; I have a few questions for you?But it goes both ways. Men also take advantage of women or see it as a opportunity. It's finding who is trying to take advantage of you and who actually wants to develop a relationship with you whether that's family, friends, co-worker or romantic. Well of course men can be opportunistic in relationships with women, but what good would that advice be to a man who dates women to point out that men sometimes misuse a woman in a relationship? For starters, the advice isn't something he can act on, … | /r/ExRedPill | 19/05/17 07:34 AM |
| 3 | For ex-redpillers; I have a few questions for you?I'm not that annoyed by that fact, and I'll tell you why. Basically, there is a real situation where a naive guy falls in love with an opportunistic woman. That's a danger, and for a naive guy, it's an especially potent one since his naivete combined with his love puts the blinders over his eyes more than anything else he's ever experienced. He probably understands opportunistic guys way better -- as well as opportunistic women when it's not linked up with concepts of affection / love. The main … | /r/ExRedPill | 19/05/17 03:05 AM |
| 9 | For ex-redpillers; I have a few questions for you?Not completely the same as an ex-redpill, but I always read the red pill for fun. I am not looking to be offended or out to intentionally misunderstand anything, so sure, there's parts of what they say that has a grain of truth. Or put another way, if you use there very intense, literal statements as loose parables, you can often reduce the craziness to something remotely true. The best way to see that is going over one of their ideas. Something like "all women are like that". Well, this can mea… | /r/ExRedPill | 18/05/17 05:58 PM |
| 1 | Woman may not serve jail time for stabbing man due to it 'possibly damaging her career'Let's meet up. I have something I think you might be interested in buying. We're talking huge upswing potential with virtually no risk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/17 06:04 AM |
| 1 | Woman may not serve jail time for stabbing man due to it 'possibly damaging her career'If you want to weigh in on a legal case, pull up the court documents and go over the judge's decision. It's not a good idea to read a summary from a news source when news sources kind of want controversy or can be written by biased people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/17 03:32 AM |
| 1 | Is waiting to have sex until marriage a waste of time in life?Well, the first thing I'll say is I agree that it's not very realistic nowadays to wait until marriage if for no other reason than people wait so long until they think about getting married. I know it's not a completely fair comparison, but it's sort of like us having our ability to speak but holding off until we're 4 before we start allowing ourselves to talk to each other. In that example, it's clear as day that it'd make for severely stunted people (who maybe even can't ever talk like those f… | /r/seduction | 16/05/17 05:38 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP: If women have this supernatural ability to tell someone is a misogynist creep, why do they so often fall for deadbeats?IDK man, I think I can sense the autism pretty strong in you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/17 04:57 AM |
| 5 | Q4BP: If women have this supernatural ability to tell someone is a misogynist creep, why do they so often fall for deadbeats?IDK man, I think I can sense the autism pretty strong in you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/17 10:32 PM |
| 2 | Lost virginity, whole new person all the sudden?It's a milestone. I think even the people saying nonchalantly it did nothing for them are just saying 'the right thing', the 'cool thing'. I wouldn't tell people in person that losing virginity did much, but this is the anonymous internet. When I lost my virginity, I made a leap in life milestones. It's a right of passage. This is a classic concept, it's not all made up, and it's not all in your head. It's a marker to be proud of that says you're progressing normally in the areas where being unu… | /r/seduction | 13/05/17 10:25 PM |
| 1 | Why is is so bad if a man willingly raised another man's child?You can say that for most guys, it's not a good situation to seek out and enter. Here's a few reasons it's sometimes a little suboptimal: You have more battles with the kid over whether you're the dad or not. Basically, you put in all the effort, and the kid may not even accept you! That's got to hurt. As a parent, you want to have constant ruling over your kid to create a consistent environment that imbues your kids with the life lessons and rules you think are best. Even with two this can be h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/17 06:30 PM |
| 1 | We have sex with humans, not objects.I'm sure there's people all around that use hyperbolic language and resonate a little too strongly with certain things, ending in them overreacting. It's like the example of someone with PTSD stressing heavily over a tiny thing like a doorbell. At this point, think of their situation as an unfortunate thing that they need to overcome by maturing slowly if they're actually throwing heavy language around so easily. Not much to do... just don't engage that much with them. Is this even a practical i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/17 05:56 PM |
| 2 | We have sex with humans, not objects.Are you... arguing against yourself? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/17 12:11 PM |
| 3 | We have sex with humans, not objects.You can make that point without the way you wrote it up. Because I understand that point, and it's a serious thing. The way to say it is that there's ranges to everything, and we generally reserve some words for extreme offenders and not slight offenders that you could see any plain person in your society, mostly good, making. Take the word sadistic. It's usually used in very harsh situations where someone enjoyed torturing a victim or something extraordinarily messed up. This is an example of e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/17 11:53 AM |
| 4 | We have sex with humans, not objects.Man, you're playing way too much of a technical word game challenge here. It's not a good thing to sit there and try to be really clever and twist the definition of words, interpret stuff incorrectly on purpose, etc. You know what it means to objectify someone. It's a common idea floating out there. I don't want to give a definition, because it'll be something that's scrutinized ("what about this situation that doesn't fit the definition!!"). That's beyond the point. The point is we got a rough … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/17 11:04 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women sexually objectify themselves.It's only harassment if the woman doesn't consent to it. More importantly cat calling is extremely over exaggerated, it's mostly just a wink or "how you doin" type of action. See the 10 hours of walking in NYC video. That's a really weird standard. What you might be talking about is something along the lines of "A reasonable person would not be terrified by this particular way of catcalling". A reasonable person is an actual standard used in court, because well, some of us aren't that reasonable… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/17 03:22 AM |
| 8 | How do I make it subtle, but clear enough when texting a new girl that I don't want to be just friends?I think we should backtrack by one step and ask why you care to let her know that in the first place. Honestly, relationships advance at their own organic pace based on the way you two are doing the tango. The way she sees you after all that plus her own personal tastes will result in her wanting to be more than friends or not. You'll hopefully be able to see how the conversation is going, how she looks at you, etc. how things are developing and then you can play it by ear on when to make a more… | /r/seduction | 09/05/17 02:55 PM |
| 2 | How many redpillers believe women hate each other?What these trpers don't get, and will never get, is that these ideas are all misinterpretations of evolutionary psychology. The idea that women and men compete with eachother sometimes for partners is nothing new, it helps explain why SOMETIMES (i repeat: sometimes) men fight over a girl or women criticize a woman just because she's better dressed. But to say that women all collectively hate eachother, or that men all collectively hate eachother besides their "bros" in their group is stupid. It'… | /r/ExRedPill | 09/05/17 03:09 AM |
| 2 | Can't seem to think women are equalWell at least thanks for saying my replies are well thought out :) | /r/ExRedPill | 06/05/17 07:43 AM |
| 5 | Can't seem to think women are equalYeah. You have to trust that you have the ability to understand your surroundings and be a winner in them. Then you have to do it. If you focus and think about stuff, that's you figuring stuff out. TRP is just a bunch of shit thrown together to make you part of the group, possibly a person to buy something. Older classics withstood the test of time due to their reasonableness and balance, again it's about content rather than trying to make you a member of a group that is capable of watching or b… | /r/ExRedPill | 06/05/17 02:49 AM |
| 8 | Can't seem to think women are equalNo simple answer, but the general guideline is focus on details. Pay attention to how others react when you or someone else does or says something, pay attention to the smallest details like even gestures, timing, pitch [of yourself, others, and when looking at the reactions of others]. Try to feel out how you take those same things and then question whether you think it's a charming or good thing to do, start doing it if you like it. Weed it out if it seems like it's no good. You also have to b… | /r/ExRedPill | 06/05/17 02:27 AM |
| 8 | Can't seem to think women are equalThen either become more of a winner and stop getting burned or stop complaining about the rules to the game that are making you lose. | /r/ExRedPill | 06/05/17 01:34 AM |
| 7 | Can't seem to think women are equalWell I almost find no men who can monkey swing as easily as women. If they could, I'd agree that it would happen just as much in men. That's just because of how men pursue women, the pressures are uneven. Whether that's ideal or you think it shouldn't be that way or whatever, it is that way, and any person with similar pressures would tend to behave the same way. It's not women. It's a person with many options. There are guys that fuck with many girls too. They're just not you or your friends. I… | /r/ExRedPill | 06/05/17 01:13 AM |
| 20 | Can't seem to think women are equalYou've got to realize one big thing, loyalty isn't cheap. It takes time and commitment to create. This is with anyone, man or woman. You could meet a cool bro and turns out to be friendly for a night at a party, and the next day, you hang out a time or two, and suddenly, he doesn't reply to your texts either to chill more. You've got this expectation that people be fully committed and loyal to you without knowing you (which is entitlement btw), and what you're observing is people's choice to lea… | /r/ExRedPill | 05/05/17 10:32 PM |
| 1 | Why are so many misogynistic posts up-voted on The Red Pill?It goes hand in hand with the belief that men & women are different in a very meaningful way. If they're different meaningfully, you can then logically and morally (most likely, sorry not going to write a 4 page treatise on that statement) actually discriminate based on it. For example, you can be a person that says, "I generally only befriend (men / women)." without it being controversial since we're assuming actual differences exist. Actual differences are actual reasons to treat people differ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/17 05:25 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There's no pumping and dumping, he doesn't stay because she's not worth it.Looked over myself, feeling good. Are there any additional word games, narrow word definitions, etc. you want to try out to make yourself seem ultra smart by simplifying all of the world's problems into a simple solution that's obvious? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/17 04:27 PM |
| 3 | Difference between a 3/4 and a 6/7.The numbers kind of thing is a little misleading... if you're ranking physical perfection, then yes, physical perfection has its limits. Strip away all cultural aspects / style from someone, stand em up naked in peak athletic shape, and you'll have your upper rating they can get. But then there's the practical number that includes style, friend's group / culture, and even behavior (some as simple as how you stand / what you look at). Honestly, that guy on the left can look slick man. Imagine him… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/17 07:32 AM |
| 1 | CMV: There's no pumping and dumping, he doesn't stay because she's not worth it.A little bit of advice for you going into the future, stop turning every situation into a logical game where there's a right answer and it's you being a contrarian. You're not being smart, no one is going to respect you for it, everyone is capable of the same smart Alec attitude, and it just annoys people. What you're showing is your own insecurities and need to feel empowered over / different from people than anything actually worthwhile or interesting. Instead of working off this annoying gimm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/17 06:58 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP If men were truly divided into distinct groups of alphas, betas and omegas, wouldn't it show up in scientific literature?The thing I don't get about purple pill debate is why everyone pretends to not understand what people are talking about when they say alpha and beta. I don't understand why TRP chose those words, because I think they're embarrassing and stupid. Nonetheless, I 'get it'. It's not that alpha is something with this stuff, and now we have to work hard to show that the stuff is good, it's more like TRP is saying "stuff that is good (for a man)" is defined as alpha. It's flipped on its head. There's no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/17 05:43 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The Only People Who Reject TRP Are Those Who Game the System (women), Are Oblivious to Social Deceptions (men and women), or Have No Spine (men)You sound like such a fucking loser. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/17 05:25 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There's no pumping and dumping, he doesn't stay because she's not worth it.I think your problem is that pump & dump isn't a one night stand all the time. And it's usually used in place of one night stand when a guy has sex with a girl for a few weeks and then breaks it off before things get too serious. Guys can do this for the sole reason of not wanting to get too committed. "I'm too young to settle down." It happens, even to girls a guy might find great in many ways. P & D doesn't even have a timeline. It just means the guy had no real interest in evolving the relati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/17 05:24 PM |
| 3 | CMV: There's no pumping and dumping, he doesn't stay because she's not worth it.You can get into planned one night stands even if the girl is 'worth it' due to logistics alone. Being in town for one night. Maybe a great desire not to commit at all at the moment - you can judge why a guy might have that belief at any moment, but it can happen. But I'm not sure what your CMV's epiphany is supposed to be. You seem to be saying if a guy likes a girl because she turns out to be great at a bunch of stuff, then he'll stay in contact with her instead of avoiding contact with her. Y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/17 11:06 AM |
| -1 | CMV: The Only People Who Reject TRP Are Those Who Game the System (women), Are Oblivious to Social Deceptions (men and women), or Have No Spine (men)Some even suspected that it's just satire. That it's just a false flag by feminist trolls pretending to be angry neckbeards in order to produce outrage porn and to give more support to the idea that feminism is still needed. I think you just sunk your own ship. A natural doesn't know what an angry neckbeard is, what feminist means in the negative context [regular people just use the word to mean 'equal rights for all!'], what an internet troll is, or what outrage porn is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/17 10:48 AM |
| 1 | I am 27 never had a girlfriendHell, there's a lot of stuff to waste time on even if your goal isn't some hardcore definition of success. I just don't think slaying virtual monsters can possibly ever be the one thing. When you party a whole lot, maybe you eliminate the chance of becoming CEO, but at least, you learn a lot about people and experience a lot of social things common in most people. When you slay digital beings in the same way over and over again... man. Maybe the best way of saying it is when you waste time doing… | /r/seduction | 04/05/17 08:54 AM |
| 1 | I am 27 never had a girlfriendI've seen it from some of the smartest people I know. It's somehow literally a question in someone's head whether it's worth it to play WoW 40 hours a week... I get that whole relativity thing and you choose your own life and shit, but fuck. I can't agree with it. I'd be ashamed if a child of mine did that just like if they started abusing heroin hardcore for a stint. | /r/seduction | 04/05/17 08:27 AM |
| 2 | Q4TBP: If TRP is incorrect, how come there are multiple mainstream articles confirming that bad boys are more attractive than nice guys?I mean, come on man, even most 'bad boys' tell little white lies with their flings, deflect the topic, and give plausible deniability. People like other nice people. Most guys (except for maybe extremely rich and / or famous people fucking groupies) can't just say 'look, you mean nothing to me and I fucked 7 different women in the last couple weeks." And even those kinds of guys probably don't do that... because it'd be awkward and ruin the mood. You probably couldn't do that with anyone other t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/17 05:47 AM |
| 2 | Turns out, not even wolves have an "alpha" in their group.I'm not getting into the huge endless debate about the word alpha with you (I don't like the word either, I think it's weird). But one think I do want to challenge is when you say "no one likes an asshole." The thing about the word asshole is there's equivocation going on. There's two kinds of assholes. There's an asshole who sees you holding an ice cream cone and then without reason slaps it to the ground. Then there's the guy who lives by most of society's comforts and rules... and when someon… | /r/ExRedPill | 04/05/17 04:52 AM |
| 2 | I am 27 never had a girlfriendAll right. You cornered me. You're completely correct. If he's a human that doesn't value enduring, often lifelong friendships with people face to face doing things like hugging and kissing (not even in a romantic way), then sure. Yes, absolutely. He isn't feeling anything bad from his addiction. But... assuming he has a roughly 'regular' body & mind, he does. He feels alone, sad, and worthless. His 'lifelong' friendships with other people who have absolutely no connection into the thing we call… | /r/seduction | 04/05/17 02:41 AM |
| 1 | I am 27 never had a girlfriendLook buddy. Reading privately and quietly and loving this series or that series is a hobby for sure. So it playing this video game or that video game. In fact, it's even seen as a completely normal thing for people to gamble or do drugs - we wouldn't panic if our dad went to pick up a $1 lotto ticket and a six pack of beers for the week to come. But the guy admitted the way he does his hobbies is destructive to his core happiness. However much gaming or reading or whatever 'nerdy' activity he's … | /r/seduction | 04/05/17 12:18 AM |
| 2 | I am 27 never had a girlfriendNot wanting to read what an enabler has to say about it. | /r/seduction | 03/05/17 11:13 PM |
| 17 | I am 27 never had a girlfriendIf you ask me, not leaving the house, playing too many video games, watching too many shows, doing too much online. It's an actual addiction. And the messed up part of any addiction, the reason it is so life-ruining, is in the addict's head they want to do what they're doing. They also actually do not want to do all that other stuff in life bc it takes time away from that other thing. Hoarders actively enjoy it, heroin addicts keep going back to buy more, a gambler still walks through the doors … | /r/seduction | 03/05/17 04:08 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Someone who is giving and not needy is the best partner for anyoneIMO this is a case of someone seeing two things that come together and identifying the wrong part of it. If you're needy and actually good at getting those needs done by someone else, then you're also really persuasive/manipulative/charismatic/convincing -- whatever you want to call it. Whatever you call it, it's enticing & alluring & attractive. It's not like we are truly convinced to do something we don't want to do or have to do by someone who disgusts us. So the saps talking about how they l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/17 08:42 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: If you suddenly got a lot more attention from women, but the increase was solely from women who wanted a one-sided platonic friendship, would you consider this a privilege or nuisance?Nope. There's girls that are just flirty. Welcome to outside your bedroom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/17 05:29 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: If you suddenly got a lot more attention from women, but the increase was solely from women who wanted a one-sided platonic friendship, would you consider this a privilege or nuisance?Hahahhaa, that's kinda funny. I mean, other than you making it so direct and sought after with women accosting guys on the street or hitting them up on Tinder to be friends, the situation you're describing already exists a bit. There's women out there that just... want to be my friend. Yes, before your thought experiment was crafted up, these women actually did exist. And they don't have romantic interest in me. And to top it off, sometimes they'll even be a flirty kind of girl, it's just how sh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/17 10:56 AM |
| 2 | How to tell your ltr the sex is starting to get stale for you?If you're looking to add some variety, the two major ways to do it are just going for it or talk about trying this or that specifically [or say it turns you on / some other way of bringing it up]. I think the worst possible way to go about it is saying "The way you're having sex with me is boring me." | /r/MarriedRedPill | 25/04/17 08:19 AM |
| 1 | Translating Blue Pill ConceptsThere is no simple solution. It's in the same class as clinical depression or clinical anxiety problems. I can't give you a couple paragraphs for all that to begone, especially without me knowing you at all. This started with your upbringing, so you parents / situation / other kids influenced you the most and solidified a lot about your personality traits. And whatever your particular issues are, you're going to have to face the music, stop being delusional, and start working toward improving yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/17 02:21 AM |
| 1 | Translating Blue Pill ConceptsNo, that's just plain old delusion. People who are shit at stuff like to point a finger. You were just very socially awkward and didn't have much social experiences... the best I can tell. It'd be really hard for you to be participating heavily in all sorts of situations and have this attitude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/17 08:56 PM |
| 1 | Translating Blue Pill ConceptsIt is no wonder why I was an incel. You're missing a big component of why you were an incel. You didn't learn from your own experiences. That's on you... most other guys in our society pick it up after a bit even if they're a little too idealistically romantic after maybe one or two failed attempts. Oh, and also, most guys have more than one or two attempts in a 10 year period. You're not the norm if the stuff you're describing truly impacted your life. You know, I was all romantic and lovydovy … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/17 08:16 PM |
| 3 | Translating Blue Pill Concepts1) Be Yourself -- Means if you are already hot, rich, dominant and "my type" you don't need to change. Just continue to be perfect. So if you are already Chad, you don't need to change anything. Look man. You've got a buddy, he's giddy about the first girl he's talking to, really nervous, wants to ask her out. Or even better, maybe he already did and she said yes! He's got butterflies in his tummy even though the date is four days out. He's freaking out. He's saying he won't know what to do or s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/17 12:10 PM |
| 1 | How to deal with the urge to fuck other women?According to what /u/bogeyd6 just said, that would correspond to an isolated reason for the urge that she can't meet in some way. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 22/04/17 03:04 AM |
| 1 | If women are free to sleep around, why do TRP men get shamed by using their tactics to get laid?I guess she should stop fucking me on the first date then ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/17 07:46 AM |
| 5 | CMV: RP arguments are usually based on premises that aren't true or haven't been provenAnything to do with social etiquette is tough to 'prove'. And statistical studies don't really seem like the right tool to learn about it. It's one of those things that needs a nice, holistic view combined with personal experience to understand. The best two sources of information on those kinds of topics are your own personal experiences and people you trust know what they're talking about. That second group could be a prolific author, a friend, your dad, doesn't matter. But they seem to know t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/17 02:50 AM |
| 3 | Should rape accusations at the college level be listed on someone's transcripts?I figured it out. We all gotta where body cams like the cops do. Thank me later. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/17 09:27 AM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't Chad spend time on Reddit?I've seen this so many times it's just old, man. You're taking everything I say and imagining it in some particular way so you can write how I'm wrong. I made a simple point that everyone knows what Youtube is, and everyone's watched a video on it before. Everyone's listened to music on Youtube as well. It's not like Reddit. A lot of people haven't even heard of Reddit. They don't even know it exists. I'm honestly not sure why you would interpret what I wrote to mean "everyone who puts videos on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/17 02:53 PM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't Chad spend time on Reddit?He basically asked for hardcore statistics on this topic. It's the ultimate nuclear attack button a person hits in these discussions whenever they hear something they don't like. The main point is that the thing being discussed in this subreddit is difficult for science to holistically describe. You'll have a few loose studies that seem to get a read on a basic thing you might have already known expressed in a very basic, synthetic situation. But you're not going to get something as specific as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/17 02:21 PM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't Chad spend time on Reddit?Social conventions are hard to study in a scientific setting. I really don't know how else to tell you that if you don't believe me. The fact is, people in the know just are. They pay attention to what's going on and do things that are likable. If it came down to a simple study, corporations would routinely just release the next big thing over and over again. It's just not cool to use Reddit, and it's not cool to be too big into gaming. I know it doesn't do much to have you feel that out the sam… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/17 03:36 AM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't Chad spend time on Reddit?Look, man, I try my best to grapple with the weird word choice you guys use. When you say "Chad" i'm just assuming you mean a really cool guy that people like a whole bunch, and because of all his experience and traits, he's good in social situations (including dating). Well, these kinds of people that I've ran into in my life just don't get on Reddit. Don't know what to tell you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/17 03:16 AM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't Chad spend time on Reddit?You should try writing your title so that it tells us what you're trying to tell us if your point was 'uses the internet' (... lol and what kind of point is that anyway?) Sure, I know plenty of cool people on instagram and snapchat. None on Reddit though. It's actually zero. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/17 03:12 AM |
| 1 | Why wouldn't Chad spend time on Reddit?Frankly, the coolest friends I have just don't go on Reddit. Sometimes things just are what they are, no need to deeply analyze it. They usually don't play that many video games too. Maybe an app on their phone from time to time, a little console gaming. But not much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/17 03:00 AM |
| 1 | This "Chad" obsession is similar to men and their dick size. Women in general don't care nearly as much about either of them.You're reading way too much into what I wrote. I said what I said. Just go reread it. I didn't put much more into it than three main points. First, I don't agree with TRP's weird angles. Secondly, Chad as a concept most likely links up to men that do the right stuff to be attractive (which more or less has to exist). Thirdly, that people can cheat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/17 01:36 AM |
| 1 | This "Chad" obsession is similar to men and their dick size. Women in general don't care nearly as much about either of them.Right now you're writing from a desire to argue or something. If you read my original comment and all my replies, you'll notice that I'm not arguing against you. This first thing I mentioned is I think TRP uses weird lingo / stories, and I also mentioned if you reduce any part of their message to a reasonable point, that point is usually very much so common sense. I get all that. I have a bit of confusion about why you're choosing my comment to write your rebuff. I will give you a hint, though, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/17 12:43 AM |
| 2 | This "Chad" obsession is similar to men and their dick size. Women in general don't care nearly as much about either of them.This is an age old thing someone adds to a conversation, but when they do that, they're not really adding much. It's a technical foul. You're charged with not reading in between the lines. I'm not using the word to follow lightly, I'm using it literally: If you don't have autism, use your sensibilities to your advantage instead of pretending like you don't have them! Someone with autism might point out what you just did in the most serious and confused way. Surely, when you wrote it, you underst… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/17 10:48 PM |
| 1 | This "Chad" obsession is similar to men and their dick size. Women in general don't care nearly as much about either of them.Yeah, most of the true stuff TRP says is just plain old common sense. You don't have to tell me that. Although I think TRP is saying this in a very weird way, I think the main takeaway they're going for is that anyone can cheat. What makes their version of it weird is the obsession over this (again) very obvious fact and also their focus on just the women who cheat when in fact men cheat while in very long, serious relationships too. These god-like people are interacting with their own kind, not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/17 10:41 PM |
| 8 | This "Chad" obsession is similar to men and their dick size. Women in general don't care nearly as much about either of them.I'm not for all the weird stories and metaphors TRP uses - I usually prefer just plain old normal English. But I'm also not for pretending to misunderstand something either just cuz you don't like it. Chad is an idea of a really attractive guy. For whatever reason, he has a name in their little culture, but there's no controversy about whether he exists. That's because attractive guys do exist. Guys that are good looking, quick on their toes, charming. Might be rich too. Really classy all around… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/17 07:40 AM |
| 1 | What makes a man weak?I'd say a strong man can efficiently work toward what he wants. That has a lot of skills baked into it, stuff like not breaking down under a challenge, thinking clearly, communicating effectively, having a strong network of loyal friends, good judgment (often makes the right plan after considering stuff), and other stuff like that. If you wanna know about weakness, just think about anything that is opposite that goal. Things like complaining a bunch w/o any real step toward the goal, bad judgmen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/17 04:25 PM |
| 2 | CMV [where the hell is the flair button!?] The reason we have these pills is because we were never taught the true definition of unconditional love, nor do we know how to express it.I specified children's movies because the whole concept is childish to me and doesn't make a good story. That's because you're a weird person that doesn't understand people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/17 05:38 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: Do you feel political correctness has ruined dating and sex for you?I don't think much has really changed. There's always been this interesting interaction between men's sexual desire, women looking sexy, and what is actually allowed to be put on display without being offensive. It's historical, it's been there for a good while. I'm not claiming a guy can never express his sexual energy. It's situation by situation, way too much to go into all of it. But take a simple example - a woman walking around with cleavage. It has all the ingredients. It's a woman being … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/17 02:30 PM |
| 2 | CMV [where the hell is the flair button!?] The reason we have these pills is because we were never taught the true definition of unconditional love, nor do we know how to express it.I don't think you were taught the true definition of unconditional love. It's a silly idea for children's movies. Stop acting enlightened because you took a drug once. I don't think that's true. I'm admittedly not a literary expert, but honest, it just sounds like a thing in fantasy since as humans we sorta fantasize about perfect scenarios. It's a nice thing to read about, good happy endings. Those marriages that last for 80 years kinda approximate it, it's not based on nothing. Whenever one of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/17 11:06 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The Red Pill theory only works when it comes to a certain type of womanI'll change your view maybe by giving you one reason why TRP might sometimes work by coincidence. I'll give a couple of example. I don't wanna pretend like I analyzed the whole canon and found suitable 'coincidence' explanations, but I think this view helps a lot to debunk TRP. The point is to say "Yeah, maybe that works, but try this perfectly normal / not stupid reasoning that might result in the same behavior." Dread Game: So this is where a guy feels like his girlfriend / wife is being a jer… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/17 10:57 AM |
| 5 | Can someone with a really good understanding of the core TRP concepts help me out with some basic comprehension?Can “alphaness” be defined, and if so what is it exactly? I think it's a bit circular. You don't have to argue whether alphaness is attractive or good to have, because its definition is 'all those masculine traits men have that are attractive'. And as with anything, we're talking about generally. Because sure, there are some women that want a really passive guy. But if you've walked outside for a few seconds, you'll notice there's a bunch of traits that successful men have, and they're just grea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/17 04:37 AM |
| 2 | Those who are trying to improve your physique, please learn from my mistake.There's a bunch of stuff that a guy can improve on to help him function better in society or in that sliver of society called dating. The reason fitness and style are emphasized as first steps is that they're usually something that every guy already knows how to do they just need to do it. On the other hand, stuff like your self image or knowledge of many different social norms (when to say what and how), and other more complex topics are entirely different. A guy has been trying to do it all al… | /r/seduction | 09/04/17 01:26 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Why are their some people who believe that looks are the only thing that matters when it comes to dating?The emphasis is there since it's a starting point that doesn't need much explanation on how to begin. If you dress in old clothes, don't groom yourself, and don't exercise, you already know more or less what it means to start doing those three things. In a few days of research, you can piece together a workout plan, buy some grooming tools, and walk through a few stores to get a sense what style you want. Then it's just about following through. You do it, and you're closer to done. Compare that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/17 07:23 PM |
| 3 | Are most men a little Red Pilled?Are most men a little bit misogynistic by nature? Misogyny is a really strong word. I think people even misuse it often against people who have a single or a few lightweight problematic beliefs about women. It's like the difference between calling some a true sadistic maniac versus someone just being a dick. You may call someone sadistic if they love causing extreme physical and mental anguish in people, but if they just like to be a rude jerk, it's just not the right word. Maybe a person even g… | /r/ExRedPill | 05/04/17 08:25 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Most people agree with RP ideas on sexual attraction, just no the ideas on female nature.The solution here is that I don't suffer from autism like you do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/17 01:47 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Most people agree with RP ideas on sexual attraction, just no the ideas on female nature.Yeah I do. Most of the well-balanced individuals there are on the management or business side of the things. Or things like technical program managers. Developers across the board are weird losers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/17 04:39 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Most people agree with RP ideas on sexual attraction, just no the ideas on female nature.It's because he's a loser and probably had autism. I hope u didn't put his autistic dick in u. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/17 04:21 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Most people agree with RP ideas on sexual attraction, just no the ideas on female nature.No. Self Esteem isn't really at all the issue. I have a couple of friends from college who were really passionate and confident about coding and competing in hackathons, but that didn't charm any females they knew. Funny you should bring that up. I work for an extremely large, top tier programming corporation. And the go-getters in that industry are often almost unconditionally touched by low self-esteem. You have to understand that large, looseygoosey list of attributes you might call 'masculin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/17 03:15 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Most people agree with RP ideas on sexual attraction, just no the ideas on female nature.Sorry, but can you rephrase what point you think is contentious? It might help to look at the opposite side of the same coin. When people try listing the laundry list of traits that are attractive (things like confident, fit, bla, bla, whatever), you can summarize it much quicker by just saying they're not attracted to people with low self-esteem. And who would be? Low self-esteem is practically an unhealthy state of mind that bleeds into everything someone does. It makes that person unattractiv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/17 02:13 AM |
| 1 | Q4all: who's your highest n count female friend? What is she like?Well, you're not supposed to interpret the question so incredibly literal to a point where it's unanswerable. You probably have an idea of how many partners your friends tend to go through, and the longer you're friends with people, the more they share and the more you know from that and just being present in their life. You then piece together an educated guess by choosing one of your friends then describing her if you wanted to answer the question in the OP. But the last thing you should do is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/17 05:18 AM |
| 4 | How do you develop and maintain a mysterious personality?It's hard to go into every little detail about it, but one way of thinking about it is you don't owe a full explanation about everything you've done recently or why things are the way they are to people. And more so, maybe going into too many details can leave people bored or feeling pummeled by your energy. Leave a little bit of the stage for other people to make a move or two. I think it makes more and more sense to cut out parts of your own story that don't add too much, because they're buzzk… | /r/seduction | 28/03/17 05:04 AM |
| 2 | Cognate to "men not wanting sluts" is "women not wanting bums."Not at all. I'm very logical, but only when it's the right tool for the job. Life has domains in it where you must use something closer to gut instinct and it has domains in it where rigorous analysis shows a problem or reveals its solution very well. The old joke is that psychology isn't a science. The reason for that is science, which is rigorous and logical, doesn't work that well at tapping into the massive complexity contained in the emergent behaviors of people. People and their culture op… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/17 02:28 AM |
| 2 | Cognate to "men not wanting sluts" is "women not wanting bums."Just means you're a logical robot type. Enjoy the raw metrics you use to judge your success in life. I'm over here enjoying a movie instead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/17 11:39 PM |
| 0 | Cognate to "men not wanting sluts" is "women not wanting bums."Try reading it, bozo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/17 11:27 PM |
| 1 | Cognate to "men not wanting sluts" is "women not wanting bums."With all due respect, primal causes and shit don't resonate with people. They tend to speak of unwritten law, social conventions, things just are the way they are. For most, they feel the pressure to do something socially, so reference to that pressure is enough to explain the topic. So a normal functioning person might say they want someone who isn't a complete slut, because well... who wants to date a dumb slut? End of the story. Only people who don't recognize all that context seek out the de… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/17 11:18 PM |
| 0 | Are women really justified to feel much more unsafe than men when they walk alone at night?If the stats don't back your fear up, then it's a little unfair to think that society should work especially hard to make the world safe for you. You're putting words in my mouth. I never recommended society do anything. I said it makes sense that women face a different challenge in our society than men do in this particular situation. If you or the OP wanted to argue against certain groups doing certain things, then it should have been in the OP, but right now, you're on a mildly related tangen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/17 08:43 PM |
| 1 | Need help! Marriage ultimatumDude, no one here knows her, your relationship, or your situation. I suggest you start being a little bit more mature, because the implication you're giving off is scary -- you're implying you've given us enough information to make a decision. Something as subtle as how she gave you this ultimatum, how she phrased it, past discussions (led by u and by her) on the topic, and basically every other shared experience you two have had (plus everything you know about her, yourself, her beliefs, and yo… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 26/03/17 08:53 AM |
| 2 | Are women really justified to feel much more unsafe than men when they walk alone at night?2) in the specific case of rape we know that a) rape crimes are decreasing over the years b) the majority of rapes are date rapes, not strangers raping women in a dark alley. The fear that people feel doesn't have to be based on hardcore science or statistics for it to be a fear really felt. I'm not going to dive into the details of your claim here, but we both know that of all rapes that happen on the street, most happen to women instead of men. I don't see any benefit to you or whatever cause … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/17 08:44 AM |
| 13 | Why arent you red pilled?There's a bunch of tremendous issues with red pill, but the first and most important is that the literature isn't designed to be clear. It's designed to be interpreted. This casts the largest net and enables people with very different beliefs all to self-identify as TRP. So if you read about "all women are like that", you could have an extremist say "Hell yeah, all women are always like that" all the way to some very cautious thinker type who says "I'm interpreting this to mean that each and eve… | /r/ExRedPill | 26/03/17 08:18 AM |
| 2 | Higher levels of dread are inherently immoral.It's my opinion that most TRP ideas have situations where they happen to work because they result in the same behavior as someone using other noncontroversial reasoning. So take 'dread' for example. It is wrong to actively promote fear in your girlfriend randomly and directly. That's fucked up and weird. What isn't wrong, however, is having self-esteem enough to end an actually bad relationship. Or begin that process when it makes sense. And as it turns out, when it makes sense, you indirectly c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/17 07:32 AM |
| 1 | How to be less boring?Yeah. I am not playing devil's advocate here. I'm just trying to say what I think about a complex situation, and since I don't know your particulars, I'm being general and saying stuff that might not be about you. Just another thing to watch out for is the delusion that you like who you are. It really takes unbiased introspection. I'd argue that most people do want to be social. It's just they've become broken in some way, losing the ability over time, by withholding from the scene for so long. … | /r/seduction | 24/03/17 03:06 AM |
| 3 | How to be less boring?The flipside to this is you also have to know who you are and love yourself. You're not loving yourself if you want to be a suave charismatic speaker that connects with people emotionally (because you're connected yourself and the things you notice are from the same well of emotions) while simultaneously saying you have no interest in any of that shit. At this point, just don't expect to form a relationship that's based on that. It makes it more difficult and eliminates a lot of possibilities, b… | /r/seduction | 23/03/17 04:09 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Feminism advocates for inverse inequality, not equalityI hope you're cognizant enough of your surroundings to know the word 'feminism' means very, very little to a Laymen other than "agrees women are equal." I think you're right that the people discussing feminism itself or using the word to describe themselves (where healthier, less confrontational people would generally omit anything political like in a dating profile) are often extremists, but their use of the word doesn't redefine it in the dictionary. It's like an anorexic describing her body a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/17 03:11 AM |
| 95 | How to be less boring?There's a couple big points about talking that I never see brought up. I always see that mumbojumbo about saying stuff related to the last topic brought up. And you can 'wiggle' around it, either getting more specific, less specific, or some other two options. I don't like that advice, because I think it's usually known to anyone reading it. Their issue is with saying things that people like or it's with their own personal self-esteem, perhaps dealing with anxiety and shit. First, a warning. I'm… | /r/seduction | 22/03/17 04:40 PM |
| 1 | Pick Up Artistry: A Measured Response. A very well made rebuttal to the red pill lifestyle. If you need a reminder or aren't quite convinced "The Red Pill" is wrong, this video will help.I think the video is a bit immature. It's not really trying to be a full judgment on the community, but instead comes off as lampooning the entirety of the community for the sake of entertainment. I don't actually know too much about specific offerings in that community, but I'll just give a single example. He goes into how this one book "admits the book itself doesn't work" by saying to prepare for a lot of numbers that go no where. And then he makes an analogy about a dota2 guide that says if … | /r/ExRedPill | 20/03/17 12:51 AM |
| 1 | Q4RedPill: A common red pill idea is that "women are children." In what ways are they like children? Why is this childishness specific to women?Well, childish behavior is very often manipulative. Like denying something that's obvious, shifting blame, lying, using guilt trips, etc. You've got a way higher chance of an adult being the manipulative type if they're cheating. But you also have a higher chance of anyone pulling out those kinds of tactics on the fly when they're in a struggle. It's often not conscious, just comes out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/17 08:58 AM |
| 2 | Why Would Women Want a TRP Man?I mean, you're just being flat out immature here. You can be pro-TRP or anti-TRP and see that. You're asking a silly question just for the reaction. Obviously, TRP is a thing that sees itself as good, so the reasoning is pretty simple. Good stuff is good to learn, and they're there learning it. What you're doing is like asking why a woman would want a guy who goes to the gym, because women generally like nonfat guys. TRP sees itself as a net positive just like hitting up a gym if you were overwe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/17 06:55 PM |
| 1 | How does one not "smother" a person who never initiates?Now you're talking about one thing and not the other... come on man. We might call both things "communication" but context matters. A girl you're not dating and being kinda flaky over text is not texting you. When people say that communication matters in a relationship, they're referring to people who are dating working out the tons and tons of disagreements and differing viewpoints that just have to exist since it's two different people. Totally different things, very misleading for you to pigg… | /r/seduction | 13/03/17 09:33 PM |
| 1 | How does one not "smother" a person who never initiates?It sounds like you're on to something here, but I see a mistake in it. A real big one. A person is more than communication... they got a lot of other things. To answer your question for OP (even though he already has): Because of just about any other bunches of true things about her that tickles his fancy. Your question is kinda scary... it seems to turn dating into a simple assembly line or something. No conflict, no nothing. You either accept me very willingly or not at all! That's scary, beca… | /r/seduction | 12/03/17 04:50 AM |
| 1 | Should "outliers" be considered in sexual dating strategy?Your question is really really vague. I'm actually for conversations about complex things to use blurry ideas as a matter of practicality, but the amount you're using looks like it's leaving people confused. You've got all this backdrop to your post in your head that no one here is using when replying to you. And when you address them, your replies are puzzling since they don't acknowledge that mismatch between what you know and what your audience knows. You're like "ah hah, but what you're forg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/17 11:22 PM |
| 1 | What do you think about this BBC article about girls born in 2016 are 75% more likely to go to university than boys?There's a whole bunch of information about the situation I don't have like what degrees the women are getting and what the guys are doing when they don't get degrees. We got this tendency shown without any context of why people are making one decision or the other. I can guess... might be wrong. I could guess it's because there are a lot of jobs that don't need a college education, pay well, and are more 'physical' like welding or construction that men tend to go into. That alone might explain i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/17 07:25 PM |
| 0 | My fiancé is leaning alt-right in general... advice?Yup, that's exactly what it sounds like, and it's a very ugly trait. Look, there are two sides to each story, and it's very rare for a relationship to be a full throttle abusive one or one that's a complete loss due to one side. The things presented in the OP are there, and they're frankly really bad indicators. Reread my original post. Everything in there is true. This is not an excuse for what her boyfriend might be adding to the shit show (whatever he's adding... we don't really know after re… | /r/ExRedPill | 09/03/17 08:00 AM |
| 1 | My fiancé is leaning alt-right in general... advice?There was no conclusion. I brought up the lack of detail, which is not something anyone is disagreeing on, and I referenced the things I know about psychology and relationships. Then I asked for additional details. I'm not sure why you're getting defensive here. The only reason people didn't bring up the things I did is they aren't remotely trained in this stuff... There's really no easy way to say this without sounding rude, because people take things really personally. But the internet is the … | /r/ExRedPill | 09/03/17 07:17 AM |
| 1 | My fiancé is leaning alt-right in general... advice?You should read OP's other comments in this thread and then go ahead and walk some of that nonsense back, or maybe all of it. I read the OP. The OP was as I described... and I did my best to objectively describe how the perspective shown through it is not healthy and appears to be manipulative. And I requested solid info... I wasn't being immature, name calling, or being mean. I put an earnest foot forward to help given the situation that was shown. | /r/ExRedPill | 09/03/17 06:11 AM |
| 0 | My fiancé is leaning alt-right in general... advice?For starters, you haven't really told us what he actually believes that is so hurtful to you. You used a lot of very general language that's just supposed to be negative just cuz ("supporting trump" and whatever "Bearing" is and "Anti-Feminist youtube videos"). And then you told us how we're supposed to view those things with emotionally negative language (impressionistic speech patterns... very manipulative of you) My advice to you is start at step one of actually understanding what he believes… | /r/ExRedPill | 07/03/17 10:39 PM |
| 3 | If a woman were charming enough, would she be able to talk her way out of a possible sexual assault, mugging, etc?Your question is way too specific. It seems like you have some other goal on your mind e.g. trolling or if not trolling you're trying to figure some other thing out implicitly based on how people answer here... but no one is on the same page as you. No one sees the connection you're trying to make or what fact you're trying to imply. As everyone has commented, as you already know, and as I know assaults are nonnegotiable. The decision has already been made by the criminal to swoop something away… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/17 07:19 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Slut-shaming is almost non-existent in younger social circles and colleges.That's why ur trolling. I never said anything like that whatsoever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/17 07:06 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Slut-shaming is almost non-existent in younger social circles and colleges.Hahaha, good trolls. Check you later. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/17 06:56 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Slut-shaming is almost non-existent in younger social circles and colleges.You're moving the goal post. This is exactly what people mean by slut shaming. It really isn't important what you mean by it since no one on this planet is using the same definition you are. The idea that a person is only worth mingling with just to fuck 'em and that even the fucking is more or less worthless is highly offensive to any person who values themselves beyond that. The attitude is known to exist even though people don't yell it out usually, and it's responsible for little interesting… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/17 06:43 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Slut-shaming is almost non-existent in younger social circles and colleges.You are pretty naive if you think a friend would not betray you, let you down or even just fail to back you up No one said anything about not believing you can't be betrayed. You're right that your own literal brother can even lose loyalty. But the topic of discussion is how strong a bond is relative to others. True lifelong friendships are stronger bonds than romantic ones in general. You could find examples where a guy had his brother backstab him and he staid married for 80 years. But the poi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/17 06:35 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Slut-shaming is almost non-existent in younger social circles and colleges.You're acting like me or my friends control how women interact with us. Women aren't just sex objects -- you hang out with them and talk to them and have a good time. It's just over the long haul, any guy will find that his truest friends are guys most likely. And I really don't know why this would be shocking to anyone. Common experiences are the glue of many very strong bonds. You've got families as an example... growing up in the same neighborhood, being the same ethnicity, and of course bein… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/17 06:26 PM |
| 7 | CMV: Slut-shaming is almost non-existent in younger social circles and colleges.I hate to bring you the bad news, but all the guys I party with that are out there killing it are extremely derogatory toward women when chatting with each other. I think the only way a guy can say it doesn't happen from man to woman is if he's not in a social circle that's pulling (I guess /u/DangZagnut is an almost virgin?) It's about as hateful as can be, obviously never spoken outside our group, but hateful nonetheless. It's basically as stereotypical as you can get... basic bitches are good… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/17 08:59 AM |
| 2 | How do i get sexual without being creepy/weird/offensive?There's a whole bunch of mumbojumbo in here (IMO) about ignoring it, forging forward, following this advice, following that advice. This advice happens to work but for the wrong reasons. I'll get to what I mean by that after I explain the real fix. It's not good news. There is no diet pill to make you lose that fat. The fix is hard work and continued experience. You have to be the person that can flirt in order to flirt. But wait, you also have to flirt to become the person that can flirt. It's … | /r/seduction | 07/03/17 05:47 AM |
| 3 | The psychoanalysis behind the red pill - "his view of women is a projection." - Sam Vaknin (X-post from Blue Pill)It's a common claim thrown around that "red pillers" and "mgtowers" express a lot of traits present in NPD or at least traits present in people who have low self-esteem (which can be very similar to NPD since these people can turn sensitive to criticism and subconsciously form a lot of mental defenses like projection). And you can't really say much beyond sure there are definitely members in those subreddits that are impacted by those struggles. Then you get into the tremendously difficult task … | /r/ExRedPill | 07/03/17 05:16 AM |
| 2 | Recovering redpiller. Help. Depressed.There are losers everywhere, and as it turns out, some hobbies bring them out in droves more than others. I don't think this guy should pick up clubbing -- it'd make him even more depressed. I don't think he should go to sports pick up games (unless he actually has some background with that sport). Do the shit that the losers do, get some friends from there. It's the starting point. Losers love everyone. They are the bottom feeders and accept everyone without any discrimination. Losers do shit l… | /r/ExRedPill | 06/03/17 08:38 PM |
| 2 | CMV: "The some women like this some women like that" idea is toxic dating advice.Good job on your having of lots of women, man. I think you should then realize that the comment you linked is a simple situation of a person blurting out tangentially related info... people do this all the time. It's aimless and not a concrete action plan. Not everyone on this planet has the kind of mind where they think in concrete goals, meaning they won't be creating concrete action plans. Maybe the best way to get this across is a small example of the situation in a context where it isn't so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/17 06:36 PM |
| – | CMV: "The some women like this some women like that" idea is toxic dating advice.using the term "some" is done to throw off any sort of statistical majority or relevancy. It obscures any possible categorization of attractiveness which is not how things work I mean, you're just setup to fail here. Normal people understand what this advice means, but your machinery is broken. Modern medicine calls it autism, but it's just your inability to understand what everyone is saying. I read an autistic guy describe his plight as being in a movie set with actors all around performing a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/17 06:08 PM |
| 3 | Recovering redpiller. Help. Depressed.You're trying to get help about serious shit from strangers on the internet. You really need a network of friends you can talk to and grow with, and you've got to start looking inward in a meditation kind of way to work through the issues you have. You're putting a huge amount of trust and control of these personal issues into the hands of people who don't even know you. We shouldn't be part of this. One could argue you really don't want to get better given the fact that you are putting all your… | /r/ExRedPill | 03/03/17 06:04 PM |
| 4 | My "best friend" keeps hitting on the girls I likeYou sound like a tremendous pussy, and you're over here online asking what an "alpha" would do, which makes the hunch a guarantee. Your post is either a straight up troll or you're a maniac who is projecting on your friend (e.g. obsessing over all these women and these unimportant interactions and then saying your buddy, who is apparently fucking left and right, has an unhealthy obsession with one of them). | /r/seduction | 03/03/17 05:54 PM |
| 1 | Women rating Women results!Seems like women are judging a different question like "how much would you want your friend to date the pictured person out of 10". It'd be like rating a womanizer you know low cuz you're using the question "would I want my sister to date this guy". The other interpretation is sour grapes. Probably a tad of both.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/17 07:44 PM |
| 6 | Everyone seems against a lot of texting on here, but what if you can't meet up with a girl for like a week?If it's some type of "out of the country for three weeks" situation (with someone you already know -- don't bother if it's an online rando) then just let them know you'll check in with them then. Come on, you don't have better things to do than chit chat with girls on text all day? That's half a good point. Same coin, different side, telling her this shows you respect she probably has better things than to text with some random online too. After all, she's told you she's on a bloody trip! What d… | /r/seduction | 28/02/17 05:48 PM |
| 6 | Discussion - is there a female equivalent of "don't stick your dick in crazy?"It's a list of bad traits... why not lump it in? I don't think /u/anitapk is saying that all these traits come all together or none at all. He's just saying more or less handsome combined with one or some of the typical bad things a guy can bring to a relationship. But if I had to answer OP's question, I would look for things that match the risk of sticking your dick in crazy. A crazy is a chick that will do really unacceptable shit like burn your clothes, lie about you to your friends or worse … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/17 06:40 PM |
| 1 | CMV: No Way This Is Validating To Women - Fake Craigslist Post Seeking "Fun" With Pics/Responses From MalesWe're talking in a public forum. You're the only one confused enough to say anything, and I can personally guarantee everyone is on the same page about this one unless they're the type of guy that needs to study being social online. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/17 12:36 AM |
| 1 | CMV: No Way This Is Validating To Women - Fake Craigslist Post Seeking "Fun" With Pics/Responses From MalesNo one else has any problem understanding what's being said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/17 10:17 PM |
| 1 | CMV: No Way This Is Validating To Women - Fake Craigslist Post Seeking "Fun" With Pics/Responses From MalesI explained my intention in the post you quoted before asking your question. I just refuse to use virgin talk online. That's the reason. I just phrased things differently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/17 03:26 AM |
| 1 | CMV: No Way This Is Validating To Women - Fake Craigslist Post Seeking "Fun" With Pics/Responses From MalesSorry, I know what they mean. I just refuse to use virgin talk online. I routinely begin my posts in purple pill with "I'm going to just assume you mean _" or "I'm just gonna call it __ to avoid controversy" and substitute normal English in there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/17 07:23 PM |
| 1 | CMV: No Way This Is Validating To Women - Fake Craigslist Post Seeking "Fun" With Pics/Responses From MalesCool. At the end of the day, the advice presented here is simple... you don't need the pontifications of weird nerds online to understand human nature. Try reading thoughts by smart people remembered through time precisely because they spoke a good deal of truth that resonates, and they did it with clarity to boot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/17 07:19 PM |
| 1 | CMV: No Way This Is Validating To Women - Fake Craigslist Post Seeking "Fun" With Pics/Responses From MalesYou're not being honest if you don't admit that the terms each have their own extent in meaning from "regular" thoughts holding no controversy all the way up to extreme thoughts that most TRP themselves would object to. A decent analogy is that the writing is sort of like a religious text in that it needs domain experts to chime in and offer corrections or leading thoughts. You have that and different "flavors" of TRP. It's a damn internet forum board full of guys discussing sex / power dynamics… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/17 06:36 PM |
| 1 | CMV: No Way This Is Validating To Women - Fake Craigslist Post Seeking "Fun" With Pics/Responses From MalesI really can't tell if you're a troll account or for real... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/17 01:39 PM |
| 1 | CMV: No Way This Is Validating To Women - Fake Craigslist Post Seeking "Fun" With Pics/Responses From MalesI was cringing as I was getting these replies. What were you cringing from? It's a bunch of guys sending dick pics in probably the one place it makes sense, a casual encounters listing. What kind of high RMV/SMV woman would possibly get some kind of validation from this? I don't know what RMV/SMV is, but if you're talking about healthy, independent women with good self-esteem, they generally aren't casually encountering if you know what I mean. But that's a little off topic from what needs to be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/17 01:37 PM |
| 30 | I'm considering leaving the red pillThe last thing you want to do is "join the red pill" for one simple reason... its intention is to grow and market, not help people with clear information. The easy thing they do that demonstrates this is all the unneeded lingo and metaphors. They are used for a few reasons. First off, when an old idea is dressed up in new lingo, it can sometimes seem more revolutionary or cooler than it actually is. Secondly, it's ambiguous, which makes the concept right to everyone in the sense that people fill… | /r/ExRedPill | 24/02/17 12:52 PM |
| 1 | Nice Tinder approach I discovered accidentallyNot really. That's just persuasive talking, and the most successful suave talkers I know talk like that all the time. Now... there's a difference between a really 'manly' guy that gets girls and a suave talker that gets girls. They're both solid, though. Think like Chris Brown for smooth and 50 cent for 'manly'. But as you can see from the examples, neither are desperate/needy. One is just more stylish and intellectual and the other a more raw physical option. There's basically two things going … | /r/seduction | 16/02/17 07:57 PM |
| 10 | Go home Feminism. You're drunkI don't know, man, most healthy people I know just don't get involved with weird movements and mostly just treat people like people. Date who you find attractive, be a dick when you want... if you really want what comes from that, talk to people and enjoy their company, etc. But there's no reason to single out a small life philosophy (that you can even empathize with... fat people don't want to be ridiculed for being fat. Do you really not get that?) and spend all your energy breaking it down or… | /r/becomeaman | 06/02/17 02:54 PM |
| 1 | CMV: For Many Low-Value Men TRP/The Manosphere Is Too Little, Too Late... If Not Counter-ProductiveSorry, gonna checkout of this conversation. You probably have autism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/17 02:18 AM |
| 1 | CMV: For Many Low-Value Men TRP/The Manosphere Is Too Little, Too Late... If Not Counter-ProductiveI never stated that anything about becoming a millionaire, Greek-god or anything else extreme, which would make you a statistical outlier. I'm not sure how you could be thinking that regular forms of improvement are a waste of time / lost cause without using all-or-nothing thinking. Very simple example... you start doing 20 minutes of cardio. Why is it a total waste of time or too little too late for you to help your cardiovascular system stay healthy, potentially lose weight, and feel more ener… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/17 09:02 AM |
| 3 | Is being voluntarily celibate possible for men?Is abstinence, waiting for marriage, etc. impossible for men? One little nuance here. I'd say that if someone is not having sex just to 'wait until marriage', it's not really their choice in a sense. They're sort of being forced into waiting by expectations in society. (There are a few people that come up with actual reasons to wait though) I think this is a debate/CMV. I don't see why men can't lead happy, celibate lives. For most men, they would like to have a good partner IMO. If your view is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/17 08:01 AM |
| 1 | CMV: For Many Low-Value Men TRP/The Manosphere Is Too Little, Too Late... If Not Counter-ProductiveOnce a man is around 30, if he’s going to the Manosphere, he’s basically shit out of luck. A 20 year old? Might be some hope here, assuming he can actually figure out how to improve those three RMV components. These changes will be hard and most will ultimately fail to achieve them. Your view is summarized down here, but it's not really related to your title. To avoid being controversial, I'll just put 'improving yourself' instead of 'TRP' since you're discussing things like career growth, socia… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/17 07:50 AM |
| 2 | Is sex/relationships even worth it anymore for women?Yeah, paul joseph faggotson, I'm sure these are your real ideas on dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 12:50 PM |
| 2 | Why is it considered more shallow for a woman to date a man due to his wealth? Isn't dating him for his height and good looks more shallow?If he worked hard to earn his wealth: Got the right education, right experience, right skills, right choices... he did it due to his personality. And there are ways of phrasing that exact attraction without it sounding as shallow. You could say you're attracted to his passion, work ethic, leadership, dominance in business, political ability, education, decision making, etc. Or you can say things tangentially related like "I feel like he can make good decisions for the both of us and I love that.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/17 10:27 PM |
| 1 | Do Awkward Women Want to Fuck You?The funny thing about the post is it goes against basically all advice given when it comes to pursuing chicks. There's usually no obvious sign someone is into you. Even pop culture signs like 'plays with hair' and 'points foot at you' have been shown in studies to be meaningless. You've got to do it like any other normal guy. Pursue, flirt. Go into it knowing you like her and that there's no way to know if she likes you. Too much thinking about signs will leave you confused and not much better o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/17 11:09 AM |
| 1 | This feels WAY better than sex and being a stud-muffinThere's an interesting side effect from a mentality where you count your blessings. You'll be more comfortable sharing them with others when you're chatting. All in all, you'll be more comfortable sharing who you are with others without it being like pulling teeth. You won't need a really social person to extract it from you. You'll just speak about your situations, mostly the good or interesting ones, very casually. Even weird, bizarre, or inconvenient situations will flow from you as a little … | /r/seduction | 21/01/17 10:28 AM |
| 5 | Redpill is associated with the right wing while bluepill with the left, but when it comes to the sexual marketplace it is the complete oppositeBP in this subreddit just means "I don't agree with what RP says and / or how they say it." You can believe you have to better yourself without using ridiculous metaphors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/17 08:44 AM |
| 2 | If I believe in god does that make me a Christian?Which happened in most jurisdictions between over a hundred years ago. There's usually an interesting point where two sides each have a some truth to explain. But come on... no side is making this point, because it's ridiculous. Women were extremely limited in America throughout the 60s and 70s and even into the 80s. You must be from an era after that for you not to know about that (i.e. you're about 30 years old or younger). There were times that recent when women could want to do something in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/17 12:00 PM |
| 4 | CMV: When your SO leaves you, you have memories. When you leave a job, you have a resume.She (or he) said that "TRP thinks these women are wasting their lives doing something they aren't "programmed" for and should be raising children" TRP always says that it's describing how people are (and maybe a little why as well), but it doesn't really touch on whether people should be doing something. So they might say "The way women are makes them unhappy climbing the corporate ladder." It's not a logical argument about whether they should be unhappy. It's apparently something they're saying… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/17 08:07 AM |
| 1 | Creep is a valid claim, but never an objective or absolute one.You're getting fixated on the vacuous truth that social stuff is a matter of opinion. When someone says "that is creepy" or "bla bla another social fact", they aren't saying "that is creepy and it's an objective absolute truth" or that "the social fact is an objective truth". It's a bit unintuitive since... well... after all, I did use the word fact. But bear with me here. What they're saying is "a whole bunch of us think the same way, and on a societal level, you're pretty much going to get the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/17 04:58 AM |
| 3 | Q4RPmen: When you initiate conversation with a woman who is not sexually interested in you, would you rather her be friendly or cold?Jesus christ, this rulebook take on socializing in all the answers is hilarious. It really speaks to what type of person goes to a club full of rules on how to socialize... I personally think it's very simple, and the OP did an expertly job into drawing out these hilarious answers. OP must have known that TRP people see regular interactions as 100% all about having sex, which is psychotic. I mean, don't get me wrong, plenty are about having sex. But christ have mercy. It's not like this. I'd go … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/17 04:32 AM |
| 1 | What's the difference between a woman that has sex of the first date and one that has sex on the third date?lol the answers show how widespread autism and / or total inexperience with people is in this community. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/17 03:55 AM |
| 0 | What Sociopaths Think of TRPDude, I just don't fucking care. You're absolutely right. Talking to guys on the internet anonymously about how to be powerful and how to be good with women is the same thing as playing football. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/17 01:39 AM |
| 0 | What Sociopaths Think of TRPTheir offensive metaphors, if taken literally, are what promote expansion. The lingo is the key to all of it. I can tell you didn't read my post, but saw the subject and jumped right in. Try reading the bullets carefully. The lingo is the key to the cultlike / imprecise nature of TRP and how it's able to survive over traditional advice. It is exactly what separates it from traditional advice while, ironically, adding nothing to people looking for advice and only creating confusion for them. The … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/17 07:18 PM |
| 2 | What Sociopaths Think of TRPHonestly, the major issue with TRP is its goal as an organization. Its goals mirror those of a cult -- to expand. That means enticing its members, making them hard to convert back once indoctrinated, and removing the possibility of critical thought against them even by concerned members of the cult itself. That's their goal as opposed to something simpler and more appeasing... maybe a goal like "helping our members become better [at ___]". Take an example from the sociopath subreddit: Take, for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/17 06:02 AM |
| 1 | Is this normal?I think it because I'm so desperate that I will enjoy any women talking/interacting with me. You don't need to ask people who don't know you if you already know. After all, you know yourself better than we possibly could from reading a small description of your situation written by yourself. If what you said is any indicator, it seems like you're just really desperate and longing for attention from the opposite sex. Another thing is if you're working out hard enough and sleeping better recently,… | /r/becomeaman | 17/01/17 05:36 AM |
| 3 | How to tell a girl my time is too valuable to deal with flakiness without coming across like a dick?A lot of these replies telling you to confront her and stuff add no value to you or her and actually make you come off looking bad. Just chill out and move on. Take a maybe as a no, and if it actually turns into a yes with enough time beforehand, tell her great see you then. If it turns into a yes you were not ready for, you can ignore her or tell her that you couldn't rely on the maybe and are doing something else. | /r/seduction | 16/01/17 09:13 PM |
| 3 | clueless on texting, general advice?One tip for someone new to the whole thing is try to have some expected positive out of what you're saying. Don't just text into a vacuum. That positive can be anything from making her laugh, making her curious about you, finding out her schedule, to actually securing a meet up. Not to make it overly formal, but when you go into a text with a small expectation, you can see the difference between what you planned for and how it turned out. It can help you reform any wrong expectations you might h… | /r/seduction | 16/01/17 10:54 AM |
| 12 | Q4RP Men: Do you want traditional gender roles in a marriage or a wife who works?Overall, I'd love a "stay at home wife". I put that in quotes, because it's not like she is forced to stay at home. Probably better to say what things I think would be great and why: Does not work a full job. Formal, required work with politics, pressure to be promoted, mistreatment, etc. is flat out stressful. I like the idea of one parent being less stressed by that "artificial" shit to make the family unit overall more chill. What I mean by artificial is that sure enough there are plenty of o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/17 10:32 AM |
| 8 | Creep vs cunt what's more offensive?He didn't say that. He said what he said, which is that it's more socially acceptable to call someone a creep compared to cunt, which is a "bad word" that we generally censor. And as he says, it's not under contention. It really is how our society views the usage. There is one little road we can go down, though. If by offensive, you mean impact on the person being called it, you could probably say that cunt is such a generic insult like shit head, bitch, fuck face, etc. that it is less often tak… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/17 10:41 AM |
| 7 | Fuck Feelings... Reason and Logic are Your Most Masculine AssetsThat's called autism or some other disorder... I think you've got the wrong image of what it means to be masculine. Feelings and emotions are part of experiencing life, sharing culture, and understanding people. With your theory, you'd be told not to emphatically say you love a certain dish at a restaurant or that the vacation you went on was sooo relaxing, because those are both powerful expressions of emotion. That can't be the right advice. I would encourage a man trying to be strong to share… | /r/becomeaman | 14/01/17 05:56 AM |
| 2 | So we gon act like y'all don't like Stacies?I don't go to those conventions, but I always doubted that line of thought. I'd think they would be bombarded with requests for photos, to hang out, get their number, etc. Like totally bombarded. Yeah, each guy there might have a lower chance to initiate something, but there are so many damn guys it might balance out or surpass normal amounts of flirting sent her way. All in all, feels like women at those conventions will be in a guarded mood and not really looking to start up much of anything. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/17 11:19 AM |
| 2 | So we gon act like y'all don't like Stacies?I'm an attractive woman. I'm also a fucking nerd. I've said this before but I get hit on MAYBE once or twice a month if I'm lucky. This is where your parody falls apart. I'm not even TRP, it's just not true. I work with unattractive women who tell me that they are catcalled at least weekly while walking to work thru a semibad part of town. Firsthand, I've been to dance floors and danced with all sorts of women. I've seen the most bland girl get attention from... I mean they're not stunners, but … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/17 11:14 AM |
| 7 | I think the ideas like "be high energy" and "bring the fun" are fucking awful. Try "just feel good and be comfortable". This shift had caused girls to start approaching me.I want to sprinkle a little clarity on what kind of personality is bad at attracting women vs good. You don't have to be a particularly "cool and confident" guy or "fun and exciting" or an introvert or an extrovert to have success with women. There's something else there, it's more core and deals with paying attention to your surroundings and participating in our culture. Those are the biggest key elements I can think of. To drive it home, maybe we can think a little bit of what kind of things w… | /r/seduction | 13/01/17 09:19 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Slut shaming is primarily a F2F issueNo hate or shaming there. Def not dating her though You're a fucking moron. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/17 03:37 AM |
| 4 | CMV: Slut shaming is primarily a F2F issuelol my guy, if you don't hear slut shaming comments from your friends, then they aren't out there hitting up the sluts. It goes hand-in-hand, fucking with hos and knowing what they are at the same time. A buddy of mine was hanging with a girl and ended up fucking her that night but he told me she's a dumb slut and we should try to run a train on her. Guys don't usually bring it up to women directly since it's not usually a smart thing to do, but they sure do bring it up in private. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/17 03:57 AM |
| 1 | CMV: A low N-count man is simply not compatible with a high N-count woman because he doesn't have the experiences in common with herIt's in the very first post I made............................. I said it obviously has impact, it is something, but probably not something an overall compatible relationship cannot overcome. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/17 03:09 AM |
| 1 | CMV: A low N-count man is simply not compatible with a high N-count woman because he doesn't have the experiences in common with herbut we are passionate about technology so that's just us Bingo, you have shared experiences with things in life. This isn't about personality. You've shared a lot of things by going through rigorous educations, struggling in similar things in life, shooting for similar goals like a decent-paying job with increased responsibility, etc. And that's what I can just by thinking about it for a second. If you think about it further, I'm sure you have both went through a lot of similar things that the m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/17 02:52 AM |
| 1 | CMV: A low N-count man is simply not compatible with a high N-count woman because he doesn't have the experiences in common with herAll right, it's exactly like I said. Two tech nerds uniting in a stable, boring relationship. That's exactly what I said to describe how you could have your personal experience of zero real-life compatibility but "personalities that match". But this goes a little further than that anyway, you do have a lot of common core experiences like education, income, work responsibility (even if it's not the same job, if it's educated + similar $ = similar types of decision making). You have the shared xp … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/17 02:34 AM |
| 1 | CMV: A low N-count man is simply not compatible with a high N-count woman because he doesn't have the experiences in common with herAll right, run off to your tech boyfriend that plays video games all day long. I'm sure his 100k/yr makes him someone you can stand be around a little. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/17 02:14 AM |
| 1 | CMV: A low N-count man is simply not compatible with a high N-count woman because he doesn't have the experiences in common with herOk, you date nerdy tech guys with bad hygiene and a love of anime. It's the same thing, you're just on the other end of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/17 02:11 AM |
| 1 | CMV: A low N-count man is simply not compatible with a high N-count woman because he doesn't have the experiences in common with herwould not be phased by You're the typical weirdo stiff nerd, man. Your GFs are gonna be similar to you, completely shut down socially and devoid of human experience. I work in a field with a lot of people just like that, I've met their long term GFs/wives at work social functions. I'm just assuming you're one of those autistic automatons. Then there's the ironic combo of you trying to be academic on these forums while making simple word mix ups. It's just a classic case of nerdy, technical, and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/17 01:04 AM |
| 0 | CMV: A low N-count man is simply not compatible with a high N-count woman because he doesn't have the experiences in common with herI don't want to make this personal but I simply disagree on the basis that my relationship isn't doomed because we have had slightly different experiences, our compatibility 100% stems from our personalities only , my relationship isn't doomed therefore I can conclude not all relationships with similar parameters are doomed and therefore I can investigate why I think this, and it comes down only to personality. I mean, based on your phrasing and the fact that you don't know fazed is a word, I ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/17 11:35 PM |
| 1 | CMV: A low N-count man is simply not compatible with a high N-count woman because he doesn't have the experiences in common with herI mean, people with shared experiences certainly can bond over them, but please don't act like your lives have had to have been the same up to the point were you fall in love. Shared experiences aren't a prerequisite for love which is exactly why things like people from vastly different cultures and upbringings fall for eachother. Differing cultures doesn't mean the two people don't share a lotus of similar experiences. Luckily with humans, we can bond over totally different experiences that had… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/17 10:24 PM |
| 2 | Shy and introverted vs. outgoing attractive womenPeople mostly like others that are outgoing. If they're outgoing themselves, the two go hand-in-hand, and if they're shy themselves, an outgoing person can take charge and show them a bunch of cool stuff. You'll get some people who legit want to stay away from social things and move at a slower social pace, they'll prefer a shy person that can move at that pace with them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/17 10:25 AM |
| 2 | CMV: A low N-count man is simply not compatible with a high N-count woman because he doesn't have the experiences in common with herCompatibility has very little to do with your experiences and more to do with your personalities. This is the only face I know how to make right now. Shared experiences is a very potent way to develop strong relationships. Have you never had a coincidental shared love and spent what felt like a blissful forever talking about it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/17 09:30 AM |
| 1 | CMV: A low N-count man is simply not compatible with a high N-count woman because he doesn't have the experiences in common with herIt's plenty possible for a person with few exs to have problems relating to their partner that has a lot of exs. It's not too controversial since they have different experiences, basically opposite by definition. If that's OP's "opinion" there's not much to argue. Maybe OP is saying they're incompatible meaning they generally shouldn't date. To that, I'd say there are plenty of negatives to mention about any two people dating. No one person is perfect, so no pair is perfect for each other. There… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/17 09:26 AM |
| 2 | Why is the concept "respect women" received in such a hostile way by red pill men and MRAs?From what I'm been told: when men read "respect" what they see is "admire/defer to" instead of simply what it means in this context, which is, "don't be an asshole". I don't take it like the MRA people do, but I see their point somewhat. If you were picking on a black kid, for example, your parents would tell you to stop bullying. Period. There is an implicit "people" as in stop bullying people. You typically get into this little pickle whenever you add a little specificity, because you can natu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/17 04:12 AM |
| 9 | Flaky girl I stopped communicating with for a long time started to text me again. Feelings come rushing back again so I might need help?Tell her to come over for pizza. If she flakes, it's just a normal Thursday. | /r/seduction | 06/01/17 10:08 AM |
| 3 | Going to clubs/bars soloA couple things to say about soloing... find "the strip" or the place that has drunk people wondering from one place to the next. This is great, because you got a bunch of fresh places you can hop to and not feel isolated if you use up all your opportunities at one place. Just bounce from bar to bar getting a single beer and chilling, talking. Stay and get another as long as things are enjoyable or good. Second reason it's great is while you're in transit, talk to every group of people you see. … | /r/seduction | 06/01/17 09:56 AM |
| 5 | How to ask out a girl?Dating in HS is a little different than after HS dating. It puts a weird political edge to any dating thing going on and people tend to hang out with/date people in or around their group. I would recommend chilling with a group of fun people that you can invite girls into. If she goes, just kick it with her and others and get to know her better. Slowly get more and more alone time with her (hanging out w/o the group etc.) and translate it into a GF thru actions not words like getting fucked up t… | /r/seduction | 06/01/17 09:27 AM |
| 1 | My review of seven habits of highly effective people By Stephen CoveyThis isn't looking good. The unofficial first, unmentioned habit of a highly effective person is he is able to read small passages of English text and understand it. | /r/seduction | 06/01/17 08:40 AM |
| 1 | Why are Red Pill success stories rationalized away as "can be done without TRP", as if TRP had no part whatsoever in the transformation/outcome?I was not dismissing it. My conversation with ofspock was to point out that TRP, at least in a limited situation of brand new to everything women, does help them flirt better and improve. I flavored it up with the opinion that they are still very obtuse ways to describe usually simpler concepts, because its presentation is supposed to apply to all women in any situation rather than just women you've just met and are flirting with. I added also that the true controversy in TRP spikes up when you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/17 10:54 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women rarely, if ever, have a ONS so outstanding that years with a SO are overshadowed by one night with Chad.with a Chad that often includes a lot of kinky sex To elaborate here without using any weird lingo, I don't think it's hard to imagine a situation where a woman had a lot of fun sex with someone [maybe long term, maybe fwb], and in fact, he was the best sex she'd ever had or a top contender. She then later marries someone who is ok in bed but of course good in other departments. Well, in that situation, it's equally easy to imagine that not having that "best sex" and being forced to a literal li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/17 08:57 AM |
| 1 | Why do beta men still exist? evolutionarily speaking, why didn't they die out years ago?Well, I want to distance myself from some of the specifics by saying let's just take everything you said to be true -- betas and alphas exist, lower chance of survival, etc. The answer to your question is that's not how evolution works. Having a disadvantage doesn't guarantee the eradication of that feature in a population. Let's take a look at gorillas where we know they have alphas and betas with alphas controlling mating. As it turns out, the non-silverback gorillas will sneak a fuck in every… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/17 08:42 AM |
| 2 | Why are Red Pill success stories rationalized away as "can be done without TRP", as if TRP had no part whatsoever in the transformation/outcome?Like I've pointed out before, their weird formalisms, especially in fresh/superficial settings, link up to normal flirting. I don't care if you claim you don't believe that people throw quips at each other when they meet for the first time (with varying levels of seriousness/rudeness all the way from none to a ton). That doesn't mean it doesn't happen, and it speaks to your inexperience than to what is actually going on. And the "TRP solution" is to tell a joke and not take the repartee seriousl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/17 12:16 AM |
| 3 | Why are Red Pill success stories rationalized away as "can be done without TRP", as if TRP had no part whatsoever in the transformation/outcome?Your replies are kinda aimless. They're coming off as you reading the very last reply without understanding we're having a conversation with a theme and then blurting out random thoughts that pop into your head. There's a very specific thing we're talking about. You said that stuff like "shit tests" do not contribute to the success of untrained men that find transformation with TRP. I explained very clearly that especially to untrained men and especially in helping them create brand new relation… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/17 10:31 AM |
| 3 | Why are Red Pill success stories rationalized away as "can be done without TRP", as if TRP had no part whatsoever in the transformation/outcome?It's the name of the game for people who never developed social skills normally. You can pick the material and its different forms from pick up, seduction, TRP, to maybe a simple direct guide called "flirting" or "charisma" but they're all going to have an artificial sound to them. The reason is that everything taught in any of those mediums, if they're true, are supposed to be impulsive, fun things rather than surgically planned things. When you put planning to it, it comes off as predatory at … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/17 07:29 AM |
| 2 | CMV: The reason so many women get upset when men express their attraction to younger women is because of jealousy, plain and simple.People in largely different age groups often have largely different experiences and interests. People really bond over shared experiences, and it's part of creating strong, long-lasting, and fulfilling relationships. It can be as simple as having danced to a 90s song in the club while fucked up. That's something that no one who wasn't clubbing back then can legitimately have experienced. That song comes on as you two are chilling at your spot and you dance away, just like it used to be done. Peo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/17 07:03 AM |
| 1 | Why are Red Pill success stories rationalized away as "can be done without TRP", as if TRP had no part whatsoever in the transformation/outcome?When you think about it, a lot of those "techniques" described are just weird formalisms that describe regular flirting... at least as far as when they're applied to meeting new women. Like you'd never "dread game" someone you met 5 minutes ago with anything heavier than a mild quip or a forced exit to entice her to pursue you or some other totally normal BS. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/17 05:35 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Shaming Incels, omegas and other unattractive people for their gross sexuality is a practice of freedom of expression.The issue I have with it is that it seems to miss the mark of this subreddit. It's supposed to be debate over whether TRP ideas are right or wrong as far as I can tell, so each topic should more or less be "Look, I found support for this TRP idea/this is why I believe this TRP idea/CMV insert TRP idea" OR the "not" of those [either directly or by offering a different view that contradicts the TRP one]. Shaming is like kinda tangentially related to whole of these topics kinda but not really. Cuz … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/17 12:16 AM |
| 19 | CMV: Shaming Incels, omegas and other unattractive people for their gross sexuality is a practice of freedom of expression.The topics here keep getting crazier and crazier... I don't see much of anyone saying you're not allowed to be a dick asshole. But just the same, when you're a dick asshole to someone, people might tell you off and exercise their freedom to be a counter-dick-asshole as a response to what you've just done. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/16 04:25 AM |
| 2 | Update: 3 interesting new studies that don't support TRP added to the First Aid KitYou're way too literal-minded. I'd be shocked if you had relationships with people who had friend networks greater than 3 people. Sometimes a person has to respect themselves and draw a clean boundary. That can cause fear, upset, or discomfort in the other person that previously had zero resistance while practically abusing their partner. It's a necessary byproduct of standing up for yourself. Stonewalling is not a good device for relationships in general, but not generally and very specifically… | /r/ExRedPill | 30/12/16 12:04 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Chad or MGTOW? Do men have any other good options in the current SMP? Why should a male become "marriageable" for women?it's a means of consolidating wealth and building a household. Marriage isn't just a societal construct with certain legal benefits. It's a gesture of good faith that a long term relationship will continue. That means a marriage can work toward the same goals as any long term -- companion, safety net, sexual partner, etc. It'd be like saying a dinner date is nothing more than sitting around eating food to satiate hunger. Well, yes, those are the literal components of a dinner date, but as we bot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/16 05:54 AM |
| 2 | I'm shit sick of this 'pill' shit on this subreddit. I'm sick of science says this, the polls say that.You can find your answer to your question over at the side bar. This place seems to be for people who feel particularly harmed by having followed TRP. So it might have more customized tips or discussions about undoing a mess that TRP seems to have caused. Let's say someone "dread gamed" his fiance some particular way. There's additionally some legitimate issues X,Y, and Z in the relationship. Well, by grouping up in this subreddit, there's a more plausible chance of a person with a similar story… | /r/ExRedPill | 29/12/16 03:28 AM |
| 1 | Update: 3 interesting new studies that don't support TRP added to the First Aid KitI can't help you bud. You're literal-minded and struggle to understand how conversations naturally evolve. The train of thought isn't that complex. You said something about TRP and I added a small but important addendum regarding a component of what you said. It was important to avoid throwing the baby out with the bath water (For you, Mr. Literal, the baby is 'general conflict of any type in a relationship' and the bath water is 'TRP'. Let me explain it further... general conflict = often neces… | /r/ExRedPill | 29/12/16 03:10 AM |
| 1 | Update: 3 interesting new studies that don't support TRP added to the First Aid KitYup, and conversations can change as they move forward. If you read my very first post and all of the other ones, I'm not talking about TRP. I'm pointing out that "bad emotional stuff" isn't the only thing that makes something abusive or not, and in fact, stuff that causes people to feel bad is integral to the normal development of relationships. You were never replying to what I wrote. You were just copying chunks of your mantra and pasting it to me irrespective of what I had just written. | /r/ExRedPill | 26/12/16 10:30 PM |
| 1 | Update: 3 interesting new studies that don't support TRP added to the First Aid KitDo you think "escaping a bad relationship" is the only situation where redpillers apply this? You've got to go back to reading class. I haven't mentioned anything about red pill at all, and I already clarified that in my last reply. I'm finished here, because you're not having a conversation. You're trying to give a specific speech to anyone and everyone despite what they are saying. | /r/ExRedPill | 24/12/16 05:50 AM |
| 1 | Update: 3 interesting new studies that don't support TRP added to the First Aid Kitit's not just cheating. it's the emotional manipulation of another to create codependence, which is not healthy. An extreme example (someone who's abusing you) doesn't make it better, because you shouldn't be with that person anyway. Rolls eyes... when you begin the process of getting away from someone, you'll cause fear in them that they'll lose you. The point of what I wrote to you is that causing that fear itself isn't what people find questionable, and often, it's just a necessary fact of li… | /r/ExRedPill | 23/12/16 01:35 AM |
| 1 | Can TheRedPill exists without the bitterness and anger, or are they required to "Wake" people up?the community in itself is atrociously bad. Here's the simple truth about the internet -- there's no filter, no requirements, hell there's not even identity for people to feel embarrassed or judged. Anyone can post anything in it. Because of that, most communities are shit compared to "real life" alternatives. That includes "all of Reddit" in most cases. You'd be much happier if you had a chill spot with 6 close friends just doing nothing and coming up with your own inside jokes and experiences.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 06:24 AM |
| 1 | Update: 3 interesting new studies that don't support TRP added to the First Aid Kit"dread game" is about putting the partner in a state of anxiety and fear (ie fear that they'll lose you). hence the name. that is not "being dominant", that's just being an emotionally abusive dick. Let's not throw the baby out with the bath water. It sounds weird at first, but someone can cause a fear of loss without being an emotionally abusive dick. What's the simplest example of that... ? It's when you are suggesting separation from someone who is abusing you and then causing that fear of lo… | /r/ExRedPill | 22/12/16 04:25 AM |
| 1 | What do you find attractive in women?Madly attracted to me Hahahaha, that can't seriously be part of your list. That is more about you and less about them. It shows you have a longing to feel loved, which is most likely caused by an absence of love sent your way from women. Work on yourself, bud! Similar but far more normal/healthy things to mention would be loyal/romantic/caring or something like that. These are about them, not you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/16 06:19 AM |
| 2 | is it ok to talk to a girl after she told shes seeing someone?Sure... it's ok to get to know people even if they know other people. | /r/seduction | 16/12/16 07:09 AM |
| 3 | Is the fact the TRP/PUA community is so vehemently against "false rape claims" actually because a lot of what they teach involves forcing and/or manipulating consent?It's a really scary possibility. I hope no one isn't on a "side" that is saying that it's not a possibility or not fucked up. It's both of those things. And when that horrible crime strikes, it can really mess up a person's life even when they're innocent. Even if they are determined to be not guilty. It's hardcore, and that's why some people fixate on it. However, I also don't stress about it, because it is very unlikely. The same way I don't worry about serial killers, I don't worry about fals… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/16 08:30 AM |
| 1 | Why are sex tourists getting younger and younger?And I don't have a Twitter account because it is crap. No offense, but that's not the point of what I said. There's a strong chance you're overly literal-minded. Social inexperience or social disability are the two main causes of that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/16 03:29 AM |
| 5 | What to say when you are out alone?and guys in groups, just trying to have a good conversation and be friendly. I get that it can help you out to seem to be known / popular, but this all comes off a crazily orchestrated. If you bumped into a group of girls, why couldn't you talk to them in that very same way to get to know them with a little flirty flirty? If they ask what you're doing, say you're out having fun. Being honest and comfortable in my own skin has worked more than being uncomfortable and lying about something no one … | /r/seduction | 14/12/16 06:23 PM |
| 1 | Why are sex tourists getting younger and younger?Ok, bro. I just happen to know a lot of Chinese people and every single one of them loves my modern, healthy country and doesn't want to go back. The only things they like about home is food and friends. Your list is just bizarre. 15 year old kids are the ones crusading against "social justice warriors", not 40+ year old men. Adults don't give a shit about it, because it basically amounts to the same old same old. It's the tradition of young, blander people popping for attention. It's there in e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/16 06:04 PM |
| 2 | Why are sex tourists getting younger and younger?China is a shithole. Have you ever tried to come live in America? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/16 10:32 AM |
| 2 | Why are sex tourists getting younger and younger?There's been losers in any day and age. I think /u/squidracer hit the nail right on the head for the major causes, availability and awareness. Our digital era is so simple that a high school student with a thousand bucks and Google for a bit, figure it out, and setup a trip to bang really inexpensive prostitutes all in less than an hour. The most complex part is getting a passport. You're going to have more people doing it when it's an easy option compared to when it's an often unknown, hard opt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/16 10:29 AM |
| 3 | Why are sex tourists getting younger and younger?The dating environment sucks Sour grapes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/16 10:03 AM |
| 5 | Question for TRP'ers. for LTR's specifically, why do I find that, overwhelmingly, more physically attractive women are with less physically attractive men than the other way around?Just use a little bit of charity... there's no point in discussing anything if you're going to pretend not to understand metaphors. Whether you agree with it, I think the metaphor isn't dense or unclear. It tries to be simple and is. It's a description of two extremes. One extreme contains glib/charming/superficial/magnetic traits and the other deeper/more genuine/more logical/long-term traits. The metaphor uses "fuck" for the first set of traits and "paying money" for the second, but that's not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/16 11:02 AM |
| 0 | I was bullied as a kid, it made me beta bitch.rofl you loser | /r/becomeaman | 08/12/16 09:10 PM |
| 0 | What are some subtle indicators that I'll notice about myself and the way people treat me when I'm finally good at seduction?Just look up what ponder means... it doesn't only sound wrong, it's just plain old wrong. You have literal autism, man. | /r/seduction | 08/12/16 07:01 AM |
| 1 | College Pickup - Why classic "game" will hurt youI think this is a bit silly... most "pick up" is just a few training wheels to get you to start doing normal things like not being anxious, flirt, joke around, and socialize. The fact that people are failing at that is a problem they have from a lack of experience. The only way to fix it is to go out and try until they learn, reflect on it, and get advice from time to time from other people or sources. I think for most people new to meeting women at social places, their failures are them standin… | /r/seduction | 06/12/16 08:35 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Basing the 80/20 rule on the OkCupud study is misleadingDating website stuff is a bizarre place to get stats in the first place. There's a good enough chance that different types of guys and different types of women gravitate to them, making it not a fair statistic on "all women" vs "all men" but instead "all women that go on dating sites" vs "all men that go on dating sites". Additionally, we'd be lying to ourselves if we didn't admit that people behave differently online than in person. You know all the arrogance, egomania, lack of politeness, trol… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/16 01:16 AM |
| 2 | Say "This" When A Girl Says Shes Not Going To Have Sex With YouHe's bringing it up, because you're talking about something you don't know anything about. It might be an insult most of the time... and it might even be something that makes you feel bad like an insult does, but it's relevant here. | /r/seduction | 02/12/16 08:45 AM |
| 1 | What's the common denominator of involuntarily alone women, in your experience?Extremely unattractive - can be extreme obesity, absolutely no figure/style, horrendous face + pimples, bad hygiene, or some combo. Disabilities like autism. Extremely antisocial behavior - not just introverted and a little anxious but things like never putting themselves out there at all. This can be driven by hardcore religious ideals [no dating/sex until marriage kind of thing] or straight up disabilities like autism or crippling social anxiety. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/16 06:53 AM |
| 1 | CMV: No Fap does nothing but make you sexually frustrated.Wanting a "romantic relationship" is gay. If a man is an incel and wants to get laid he can just go to a hooker and fuck her in the pussy. This has nothing to do with my comment. Stay focused, bud, you might have ADHD. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/16 05:51 PM |
| 1 | CMV: No Fap does nothing but make you sexually frustrated.What are you going to do to make sure there's a "high likelihood of good return on investment"? The only two ways I know to increase that likelihood are either to straight up pay for it or practice your social skills/work on yourself. But if you're waiting for the good chance before you poke your head out there, you won't get any practice, leaving you with bad social skills and a low chance. So the high chance will never come... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/16 08:50 AM |
| 2 | CMV: No Fap does nothing but make you sexually frustrated.Saying romantic relationship is pretty normal. In that context, it's just a softer way of saying he wants a relationship with sex or other intimate touch like kissing in it. He wouldn't feel satisfied having dated someone only for the relationship to end without him experiencing something that he hadn't gotten from friends and family already. That'd still be a relationship - one that ended before it got physical - and that's what he's clarifying I think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/16 07:55 AM |
| 3 | What to say when dancing with a girl in noisy club?Nah, man, you have to talk to them a little. The kind of stuff you say doesn't change but it does rely on the understanding that you're not there to talk a whole lot. So you say something flirty or to satisfy your curiosity or to let her know something or whatever, knowing that it won't be a huge convo. You keep it light enough where it only requires none to 2 replies from her. After dancing a bit, it's also a good idea to yell into her ear that you want to go to the bar with her and get a fresh… | /r/seduction | 29/11/16 07:45 AM |
| 4 | Do you feel that men should ditch the idea of monogamy since we "don't own anyone?"People have been doing things without legal guarantee and without owning people since the beginning of time. Any team play, for example, relies on the teammates to practice together, operate past differing schedules, and execute on game day. It's a handshake-style agreement, so other than being kicked off the team if you're not holding your weight, you don't get imprisoned. Additionally, you never had anyone on the team own your physical being. Despite all this, we have hundreds of thousands of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/16 04:41 AM |
| 1 | CMV: No Fap does nothing but make you sexually frustrated.Controlling your urges is sage advice as old as writing itself as far as I can tell. You've got concepts of fasting floating around, sexual restraint through chastity, not masturbating in religion, denying a pleasure for Lent, ascetic monk/nun traditions, etc. On the flip side, you have a lot of gut feeling that gluttony and hedonism are generally bad. That's not so much an explanation of what it buys you more than it is undeniable proof that it's an old idea. I think the two advantages doing so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/16 04:21 AM |
| 2 | If not TRP/PUA then what?Looks like you've got all the "you" stuff out of the way, keep focusing on that, but don't forget about the "them" stuff. Them stuff is being social. Are you doing anything to socialize more and truly enjoy other people? Do you love culture and art? Start loving different cultures and art, start paying attention to the details of every human you encounter. Each one is a complex story borne of a different starting context. You don't have to be a world class speaker or be a leader of a thousand, b… | /r/ExRedPill | 28/11/16 03:21 AM |
| 1 | How to Prevent Yourself from Being Manipulated (10 Effective Ways)The behaviors listed are definitely manipulative. However, someone isn't manipulative unless they do those behaviors with the right amount of intensity, which is based on how often it happens and how severe it is. Everyone's gonna be 'manipulative' from time to time. Not everyone is a maniac psychopath abuser, though. | /r/seduction | 26/11/16 08:27 AM |
| 1 | An argument for MGTOW: it shouldn't be mocked or made fun of, or be treated as a caricature, because frankly it's exactly what a lot of these guys need. (kinda long).Nothing in life is easy that's worth doing. Even friendships can get twisted up with betrayal, misunderstandings, and breakup. As far as I can tell, MGTOW types fall into two categories - those that never could get into relationships in the first place and those that were hurt in one and feel better off without them. The first one I think anyone can agree is a person exiting a race they just aren't winning. It's the definition of sour grapes. The other one feels a lot like someone not being able… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/16 06:19 AM |
| 1 | How do you respond to a girl you wanted to date a second time but turns out she has a boyfriend?If you already have had sex with her, you should meet up. Think about it the opposite way. Would you want your current GF to meet up "just as friends" with her last fuck friend? No, because everyone knows how likely a slip up in that situation is. If you dated and never got intimate, I think the advice in this thread makes sense. Meet with her if you you don't mind being her friend. You can try a little more, but don't get your hopes up. | /r/seduction | 25/11/16 08:45 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: Can Facts be sexist?I'm not sure what to tell you, man. I can only encourage you to try to see that the problem is extremely complex and one truth feeds into the other. There's a lot of truth to the poisonous subculture in some streets of the US, which in turn promotes biases toward people in those communities. The biases promote the street culture. It's a lot of chicken-and-the-egg. When things are awful and hairy and without a clear way out, people sometimes freak out. BLM most likely is misguided. What's your po… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/16 02:47 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: Can Facts be sexist?Come on... you can even be a Trump supporter and still comprehend that commenting on the breasts of a billionaire woman while in a meeting with her isn't an action of mutual business respect. You might be on the fence as to whether that amount of sexism even matters or if it's avoidable (might be that men and women will always treat each other a little differently because they're each different themselves). But that doesn't change the nature of the comment itself in how it definitely treats men … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/16 07:40 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: Can Facts be sexist?You're using a lot of local jargon from your own train of thought, and it's hard to follow. I'm just talking about context - it's the whole 'reading in between the lines' part of a conversation. Most facts if brought up insinuate something, and for facts about groups of people, most contexts insinuate something bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/16 05:05 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: Can Facts be sexist?There are plenty of practical reasons to bring up uncomfortable statistics. More black lives would be saved if the black crime problem was focused upon. Mainstream media would rather focus on police reacting to that high crime population rather than solve the root of the issue though, because they deny the facts. You're being really dishonest if you think people aren't focusing on the problem. Street culture and poverty tied together are known issues, and politicians/cities have worked actively … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/16 05:01 AM |
| 2 | Q4All: Can Facts be sexist?Bro, outside the internet, people aren't debating women's rights and racism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/16 04:35 AM |
| 3 | Q4All: Can Facts be sexist?tell me, if i say "blacks commit 8x the violent crime per capita than whites in US" or "blacks in US have average IQ of 85 and whites have average of 100", am i a racist if its true? think befor eyou answer because im willing to bet your answer will validate what i said Someone could also bring up that men perform x times as many sex crimes than women. The reason people don't like facts like these is that there's very rarely a practical place for them to be brought up where the context isn't cle… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/16 05:47 PM |
| 3 | Q4All: Can Facts be sexist?Maybe you're noticing that in theory, but in practice, I haven't seen it. Everyone's trying to be so pithy they aren't even saying what they're talking about, and there's a lot of possibilities. Sure, in this age of clickbait media, normal stuff can spiral into a huge news smear campaign against you (e.g. nobel laureate Hunt). The technicality is that's not our population's idea of sexism or racism - that's a willingness for news orgs to lie to promote their product. In its lying form, what the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/16 05:34 PM |
| 7 | Q4All: Can Facts be sexist?Nice, you can just apply your same sentence structure to literally anything anyone says. What? That's not "racism", that's saying hateful things. What? That's not "racism", that's noticing facts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/16 05:17 PM |
| 9 | Q4All: Can Facts be sexist?I think you're trying a little too hard to be pithy, because that just doesn't make sense. There's no part of lynching an innocent black man, as an extreme example, that incorporates noticing facts and publicizing them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/16 08:57 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: How did you find out about the manosphere and pill stuff.I made a post and someone said I was "red pill" as an insult in the AMA subreddit. I had said something about how I thought it was weird that Reddit users obsess over porn stars and give them so much celebrity for doing something that's not very cultural and not very great. They're just banging on camera for money. I still don't get the AMA obsession with porn stars or why some people want to ask them questions so badly. I googled it and read bunches of it. It's hilarious. I removed it, though, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/16 07:55 AM |
| 6 | CMV: Both pills do not know what Attractive meansWe've got a case here where attractive has multiple meanings depending on context. It generally either means "physical beauty + maybe clothes, haircut" or "everything (beauty, what they do, how they sound, who they are, who they're with, etc.). Take two situations with the two meanings coming into play. If someone shows you a pic and says, "do you find her attractive?" they're using it as physical beauty + style. If you met a girl at a dinner with friends and your buddy asks, "Did you find her a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/16 07:16 AM |
| 1 | Is it okay to cry?Maybe some advice from the godfather can help you out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idP5-vtkhBE | /r/seduction | 12/11/16 03:10 AM |
| 1 | How much does (good) first sex affect a woman's attraction for you?Did you try to lead her and communicate? I know that it's possible you did and it didn't work, but there's always your ability to just tell her what to do. You can take it as a teaching opportunity where the lessons result in you busting a nut rather than the final nail (pun intended). | /r/seduction | 11/11/16 06:26 AM |
| 14 | ELI5: Why does being a Trump supporter automatically make you a garbage human being?People get invested in politics and lash out. It's the same with sports. There's no real good reason ever to riot and break shit just because your sports team didn't win, but that can happen. There's no good reason to lash out at supporters of a different candidate just because yours lost. Accept it and move on. It's something people do from time to time. Try to be understanding of their perspective and definitely don't let it bother you. Don't take their words too literally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/16 08:25 AM |
| 2 | CMV:Trump is the text book definition of beta buxYes, I disagree. Like I mentioned, he has strong skills and likable traits when you remove the predefined notation that you're supposed to hate his guts for what he's done politically. He probably makes his wife pretty happy on the social side of things. Who knows how good he is in bed. Absolutely, he'd be better if he exercised more and were younger, but everyone's got the drawbacks. Having a drawback doesn't mean everyone is using you or that you're a "beta". Now, the older he gets and the you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/16 07:48 PM |
| 6 | CMV:Trump is the text book definition of beta buxWell you're going to find quite a conundrum if you define betabux as just "spending money for women." Because most extremely wealthy men love to spend money... that definition would make Dan Bilzerian beta as well as the Weeknd - international superstar and sex symbol who routinely says he loves to spend on women and fuck them. In my opinion, the key is relative spending. If a guy makes 6k/month after tax and spends 4k at strip clubs, it just feels pathetic. He's halting his savings, investments… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/16 07:12 PM |
| 1 | Models Mark Manson (My Notes)I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you might have trouble picking up chicks because of your severely negative, biting attitude toward things. | /r/seduction | 08/11/16 06:25 PM |
| 4 | Models Mark Manson (My Notes)I'm going to be frank. It just seems like you want to belittle other people. Effectively, you're coming into a subreddit meant for people who struggle with certain topics and then saying that you get pissed with the tools people repeatedly recommend to solve those problems. You then disparage those same people by saying the fix to their problem was common sense all along. You're not really adding anything productive to the conversation in this subreddit. | /r/seduction | 08/11/16 08:31 AM |
| 1 | Models Mark Manson (My Notes)That's a cool analogy, but the issue is we don't really need it. We've got a simple scenario. There's people that need some information, and the book, according to you, has it. People recommend to the people who need the information that they read the book. How is that overrating it rather than simply giving people the tools they requested? Just because a tool comes up frequently and is simple doesn't make it overrated. That'd be like calling a screwdriver an overrated solution to screwing in sc… | /r/seduction | 08/11/16 08:23 AM |
| 3 | Models Mark Manson (My Notes)You're splitting hairs with my wording. It's the same thing to ask - what's overrated about a book that claims to contain a bunch of information about something that you yourself said it contains? And frankly, after reading it, you could call it all common sense, but there's the fact that you were reading it in the first place. Most everything, in hindsight or after someone else says it, seems like common sense. That doesn't mean the reminder isn't very valuable or that you would have come up wi… | /r/seduction | 08/11/16 08:12 AM |
| 3 | Models Mark Manson (My Notes)Yeah I found it to be common sense for me and I think most of the stuff there is helpful for guys who were submerged into pickup. I think the book is overrated. I don't give a fuck if it's not fair criticism. What do you expect a book on a topic to be other than comprehensive about it? I think anyone who's reading the book will get something out if it. Either it wasn't common sense and they get exposure to those ideas, or it is common sense to them and it affirms to them that there's no secret s… | /r/seduction | 08/11/16 08:01 AM |
| 1 | Models Mark Manson (My Notes)Are you saying there's a bunch of not common sense things the book leaves out, or are you saying it's decently comprehensive but it's all common sense? Either way, your critique lacks something. If the book left important things out that aren't common sense, the natural thing to include is what it left out and hopefully where to find more info on it from a resource that didn't leave it out. If it's all common sense and it left nothing out, well, that's not a fair criticism since by your own admi… | /r/seduction | 08/11/16 07:49 AM |
| 32 | Models Mark Manson (My Notes)If you like the notes that much, there's an entire book about it! | /r/seduction | 08/11/16 07:39 AM |
| 1 | The 15 Things Men Want From Women...IMHOConflict and conflict resolution play an important part in relationships. Let me put it one way, a way that hopefully highlights my point since an extreme example of it exists. Some people are in abusive relationships and find it very hard to breakup even if they are completely able to be independent. Abusive stuff has two different things that can characterize it -- extremeness and premeditation. We have different names for each combo. There's also in betweens since all this stuff is a scale ra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/16 07:23 AM |
| 2 | How to get a girl to stop ignoring your texts (I think it was submitted before but Its still good)My go to thing if they don't reply via text is to ask if they want to go to church. I explain that with it we can both avoid hell :) | /r/seduction | 27/10/16 09:05 AM |
| 1 | CMV: It's MEN that hit "the wall" NOT womenThere's a bit of stuff in that link you gave that's interesting, but I don't think it reflects the reality of which gender can date younger or find commitment easier in older age. He mentions, for example, the idea that older women are cougars and MILFs. These words (except cougar if you're saying it as an older man) literally mean "I want to pump and dump that old yet fit woman". There's zero commitment expressed in it at all. And more importantly, older men don't have these types of titles. An… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/16 05:49 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TBP offers good ideas for how dating & sex *should* work, but TRP matches real life. Therefore, TRP > TBPYes, those were 6 words he wrote together in his two small paragraphs. But the point of his post, which is the combo of those 6 words and all the surrounding ones, isn't to argue that "red pill" is full of shit. It's to argue that the only common belief of "blue pill" is that red pill is full of shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/16 03:32 AM |
| 6 | CMV: TBP offers good ideas for how dating & sex *should* work, but TRP matches real life. Therefore, TRP > TBPNice arguments bro, way to prove something wrong /u/RidinTheMonster isn't arguing against "red pill" in his post. He's explaining the common belief that "blue pill" people have. It's related to the OP, because the OP makes it sound like both sides are presenting different ways of dating successfully, but as he has already said, "blue pill" isn't about dating in a particular away. Rather, it's about not dating in a "red pill" way. It'd be different if OP had a CMV that said "red pill advice works… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/16 05:17 PM |
| 1 | Girl not talking to me after asking for phone #In anything that deals with people, you're just going to have some percent chance of things not working right. You could be the brightest stock trader, and you'll still have days where your portfolio dips 2% even though overall it climbs in the year. You could be a perfectly fine gentleman, and something else out of your control or unknowable to you sours someone's idea of who you are. So the first thing to recognize is you should do yourself a big favor by not thinking about a single example to… | /r/seduction | 21/10/16 06:53 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Only Low Value Men Care About Their Partners' N CountsYou're acting as if sex is the only thing a woman can offer you. /u/ClintonKush didn't directly mention sex... I know the topic here is the number of people you've banged, but that number is a proxy for how many people you've dated/given your attentions to as well. So it's possible that the "prize" that he mentions is not just sex but also that stuff about her thinking about you and whatnot you mentioned. But she still gave all that away easily as well. Take a trait many people highly value in a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/16 07:55 AM |
| 2 | Guys be more self aware. Saw a pair of dudes working the room at a bar the other day, and everyone was laughing at them.I wouldn't remove it -- I think the sentiment is good to express. The sentiment that you should be going out to have fun and not just to pick up. I wouldn't emphasize the "routines", because hell, even totally natural guys have gotos that they use in certain situations. That's not the actual problem. The actual problems related to your subject are Inexperience. And I think it'd be useful to point out that this problem cures itself through those awkward battles you described... the experiences ho… | /r/seduction | 18/10/16 07:35 PM |
| 1 | Guys be more self aware. Saw a pair of dudes working the room at a bar the other day, and everyone was laughing at them.This kind of advice is a truism and obvious... people rely on the routines as training wheels to help with overcoming their own anxiety they have about walking up to women they don't know, and to help them have a simple fallback when their mind is totally blank. With repeated use of their training wheels, they should get more experience, become more comfortable, and eventually, develop the ability to interact off the top of their head. Your post, if we use bicycles as an analogy, is like saying,… | /r/seduction | 18/10/16 07:10 PM |
| 1 | [CMV] People think TRP is creepy because they imagine an awkward beta badly imitating natural alpha behaviorThe jargon isn't vague, and it certainly isn't intentionally crafted to be evasive. What would be the point in that? TRP isn't evangelical, it's just a space for men to discuss and learn, so there's no need to be ambiguous to avoid criticism. That's exactly what it is. There was a third reason I meant to put, which is also decorates simple ideas with jargon, making them seem very impressive or in need of explanation. Perhaps what you're seeing is that there is a lot of discussion within the TRP … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/16 05:53 PM |
| 2 | Do statistics support the idea that we are living in a "rape culture"?It's just a phrase, no big deal and nothing to get upset over. If someone ever discusses it in a normal social setting, they're probably really weird for bringing up something so morbid in the first place. And if the context actually made it OK to bring up, just say the normal response that consent is important and you can get behind that. There's really not much to argue with anyone about this topic. You'll see a host of related topics come up about rape culture... things like affirmative conse… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/16 10:55 AM |
| 1 | [CMV] People think TRP is creepy because they imagine an awkward beta badly imitating natural alpha behaviorI think you're missing the point OP is trying to make. He's basically arguing you can call it creepy or whatever all you want, but what works works. Yeah, you can argue whether it does work or whether it is actually what successful men do, but he's saying don't just call it creepy. That's an unfair critique that he thinks is driven by the mental imagery of a loser applying the techniques with no grace and no congruence with their appearance. I give up. At this point, I'm going to assume you're t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/16 04:23 AM |
| 1 | [CMV] People think TRP is creepy because they imagine an awkward beta badly imitating natural alpha behaviorTRP can be effective if used correctly. TRP can also be very dangerous and creepy if applied incorrectly. There's a lot of hyperbole, a lot of anger floating around TRP and you have to sift the good stuff from the crap...Come on, guys. A lot of these guys y'all reference in TRP are full of shit; consider Matt Forney as an example. Shit's damn near as cringeworthy as a suburbanite trying to act like a gangbanger or Mafioso or some shit. Ok, again, what does this have to do with my point? I was on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/16 02:49 AM |
| 1 | CMV: “Alpha fucks/beta bucks” is rare in practice. It primarily serves as a scapegoat for men to blame for why some long-term relationships become stale or end.Maybe this very simple description can change your view... women often marry men that they wouldn't have dated 5 or 10 years ago. That's the most charitable interpretation of the ridiculously dumb jargon "AA/BB". Not much more, not much less -- everything else that's implied is common sense. For example, you might sensibly worry that the chick isn't actually attracted to her husband if she wouldn't have dated him when boyfriends were chosen based more on fun and sexiness. And honestly, if you ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/16 02:42 AM |
| 1 | [CMV] People think TRP is creepy because they imagine an awkward beta badly imitating natural alpha behaviorNaw, TRP is more like "Get strong using this obscure training regimen! Punch trees, drink a gallon of milk a day, deadlift heavy, and do 200 burpees a day! And what's more, bare-knuckle boxing is needed also to get ripped and Alpha!" Lots of good stuff mixed in with dangerous shit. Apologies, but what does this have to do with what I wrote? I only explained what OP's viewpoint is, basically that people are judging TRP using mental imagery of someone messing up instead of someone succeeding. But … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/16 02:26 AM |
| 2 | [CMV] People think TRP is creepy because they imagine an awkward beta badly imitating natural alpha behaviorOne of the biggest issues with TRP is that it creates a bunch of vague jargon. The jargon can mean all sorts of things with varying levels of extremism. On the lighter side, you might call that "interpretation" obviously true and acceptable. The middle might be stuff that might be considered unspoken truths, perhaps distasteful. On the strongest end, you might say it's outright hatred and school shooter status. TRP uses that type of jargon setup precisely to create that mystique. This is great f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/16 10:12 PM |
| 3 | [CMV] People think TRP is creepy because they imagine an awkward beta badly imitating natural alpha behaviorI think you're missing the point OP is trying to make. He's basically arguing you can call it creepy or whatever all you want, but what works works. Yeah, you can argue whether it does work or whether it is actually what successful men do, but he's saying don't just call it creepy. That's an unfair critique that he thinks is driven by the mental imagery of a loser applying the techniques with no grace and no congruence with their appearance. An analogy would be if there was a place online discus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/16 10:03 PM |
| 2 | TRP tactics are usually obvious and easy to google. Women by TRP's own admission are more skilled socially. Doesn't it seem likely they'll find out about TRP eventually?Forget the fact that you might find TRP ideas controversial. The guy you were speaking to, even if he was saying uncontroversial things without any jargon, would have come off as a jarring weirdo. Take a simple piece of advice... something like "You've got to open up your body language around women and not be so closed." Then that's followed with some examples of closed/open body language. For example, bad eye contact and smiling. Ok, if you were sitting there talking to someone, and they said, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/16 07:58 PM |
| 2 | CMV: the LTR market is soft on college menYeah, the arrangement is called a relationship, and two years is long. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/16 06:46 AM |
| 2 | CMV: the LTR market is soft on college menCome on dude... yes, 2 years is a long term relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/16 07:26 AM |
| 2 | [Discussion] TRP has ruined my view of menMen seem to be so mean and bitter. Instead of relying on a man to be a family leader who loves, sacrifices for, and cares about his family, I have to live life knowing that men are resentful about being fathers, providing for families, and don't love their wives or families. The moment I turn 35, my husband will gradually become more and more repulsed by me until he leaves me at 40 for a 19 year old woman. So you're saying what TRP is saying makes you think you're going to be dropped by a bitter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/16 06:19 AM |
| 1 | Why invest in fitness, looks, clothes, hygiene, learning social skills, books, seduction... if the main goal is not to impress others?You're using "impress others" which is a phrase with specific negative connotation. It usually applies to people going out of there way in a way that makes no sense just for the opinion of others. Social stuff involves other people. Being able to interact with them normally and pleasantly isn't something that you do just for the "sake of others" in a way that makes no sense. It's about being social. You're a human, a social animal, and you'll be far happier understanding how to mingle versus not… | /r/seduction | 08/10/16 03:20 AM |
| 2 | CMV: RP guys are not representative of all guys.The CMV at face value is just cheating. It's obviously true that a self-help section of the internet will have a larger representation of people needing help than experts providing it. You listed a bunch of people who frequently do badly with women in America, so there's no arguing that an American self help group with some emphasis on improving with women will contain a bunch of them. The technicality a red piller will pull out is that you don't have to go to that self-help forum, post there, o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/16 02:50 AM |
| 2 | Are M really GTOW if all they do is talk about women?Doesn't sound very MGTOW to me. You keep saying you want to date someone who is compatible with you. Maybe the better question is... what do you think everyone else is doing that's not "MGTOW"? You've described to me a few facts: You aren't actively on dating sites / out trying to meet women. You don't want to date just anyone, you'll wait for someone who's compatible. You aren't crippled and depressed by not having a girlfriend (i.e. you're not a codependent) Yeah, that's pretty much most peopl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/16 01:45 AM |
| 2 | Are M really GTOW if all they do is talk about women?You seem to say one thing directly then strongly imply you yourself don't even believe it. Even in your original post, you said you don't date for your own happiness and then continue on to say you might date later on, because you admit it might make you happier. This STD thing is getting out of hand. No one defines a relationship as necessarily having instant, unprotected sex with strangers. You're welcomed to vet them, develop a working relationship, get mutually tested, and then proceed with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/16 12:54 AM |
| 2 | The fact that people are upset over MGTOW shows that society is clearly gynocentric.I read your post. The thing I think you are not accounting for is that people tend to get outraged by people who behave in ways they never would. And, well, most people enjoy having sexual partners. I don't see there being much more explanation needed. Another sometimes relevant component is that some MGTOW is straight up hate speech toward women. I won't color all of them with one brush, but that hate speech does get posted over there. It's hard not to call it that if it follows the structure "… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/16 12:34 AM |
| 2 | Are M really GTOW if all they do is talk about women?I enjoy a wide circle of friends ?? Half of this stuff is just generally doing things with people (has nothing to do with gender or dating). Other parts sound a whole lot like they link up to only dating but then you realize not really. 1) Stressful & work: My hyper-religious upbringing has left me unpracticed in flirtation. To a great degree, flirting is a more specific version of being able to hang out with people and chitchat -- tell stories, tell jokes, notice things, pay attention to and un… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/16 10:50 PM |
| 2 | Are M really GTOW if all they do is talk about women?Why do you characterize dating as risky, stressful, and work rather than carefree and fun? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/16 10:01 PM |
| 0 | Are M really GTOW if all they do is talk about women?You don't really have to put so much energy into trying to defeat MGTOW people, because they're already defeated. They're the extremely small group of people who pretend they can get enjoyment out of life while omitting largely regular relationships that our psychology generally wants to be happy. You can't size them all up with one credo they follow, but they generally carve out types of relationships and throw them to the wind. The most extreme assert a man must be so enlightened as to enjoy e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/16 09:04 PM |
| 3 | CMV: TheRedPill Advocates for Emotional AbuseSo, if I interpreted your comment correctly, the point you are trying to make is that behavior that can be considered emotionally abusive is only considered that when it is taken to the extreme, plays hand in hand with another behavior in the same category, or when it is done over a very long period of time. Is that correct? More or less. It's tough to write up a very succinct, accurate rubric that can judge all behaviors, because human behaviors are generally complex. To make it worse, neither … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/16 06:44 PM |
| 4 | I don't get itIt just depends on what bar of activity you are judging against. TRP tends to want to be the guy who can get a 1 night stand whenever and who has a bunch of women he's casually fucking on and off in his friends group. That's definitely not the norm. The norm is probably closer to getting in and out of relationships every now and then, having an occasional one night stand, etc. But yeah, the majority of people have sex. It's just not unlimited and with whoever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/16 07:34 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Boring men are just boring, and fail as both alphas and betas.There is no topic. I specifically asked you what your view is that you're trying to change, and you just mentioned some random thing about how a 'redpill alpha is a problem'. I then scratched my head, because your original view was "Boring men are failures even if they are alphas." Have you gone to college? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/16 07:30 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Boring men are just boring, and fail as both alphas and betas.I've given you more than enough chances to redeem yourself. I'm doing what I should have done the first time you broke the rules. ... This is really melodramatic. Why are you acting for me and others? If you want to do something, do it for its own sake. You barge in and out of a conversation we've been having for over a year, a conversation which other posters already had no troubles following, in this thread, and now your inability to keep up is supposed to be my problem? You're not getting it.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/16 07:05 AM |
| 2 | CMV: TheRedPill Advocates for Emotional AbuseI'm not going to directly defend TRP's entirety -- that's too vague and too large. But I will point out a very important thing about psychological disorders, troubled behaviors, etc. For a lot of them, everyone has it somewhat. And to that extent, it's normal and sometimes even healthy. For example, take some characteristics of some people with depression -- things like fixating on the past, not letting go, cyclic thoughts, paranoid self-doubt, etc. These traits describe that depressive person, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/16 06:51 AM |
| 1 | Why is it considered victim blaming to suggest women can take certain precautions to lower the likely-hood that they get raped?It's all about context. In a completely blank context, it's just a basic truism that people can take on measures that increase their safety and that acknowledge criminals exist. No one argues that. Then there are other popular contexts: People can bring it up in a discussion about a vicious rape -- the implication is that the raped person should have acted differently. Generally, whatever small thing a raped person did is so inconsequential in the face of the crime of rape, it's just not worth m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/16 11:15 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Boring men are just boring, and fail as both alphas and betas.That's not a slum lord - that's just a landlord in a bad neighborhood. Just look up the word slum lord in a dictionary. You can't really play this redefining game with real worlds like you can while arguing retarded TRP shit. That is a slumlord. But this is just about the SMV of a slumlord, and I've never met one who could be described as "sexy". As far as I know, slumlords are like any other land owner renting... you're going to get a wide range there. I'm not sure why you're oversimplifying th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/16 10:37 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Boring men are just boring, and fail as both alphas and betas.Slumlords are just geeks on ways to financially fuck everyone else over. If you think that's interesting, you need to meet more. This is so melodramatic - honest question, are you 18 years old? Slumlords are people who rent in shitty places. They get a bad rep, because they charge rent that is a higher percent of the value of the home compared to normal landlords renting in normal areas. So you might have a normal landlord charge 0.5% of the house value per month and a slumlord doing 2%. They ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/16 07:28 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Boring men are just boring, and fail as both alphas and betas.Based on your reply, it sounds like your CMV has nothing to do with the title. Your real view seems loosely related to trying to explain the cause of TRP and simultaneously to trying to say its origin story makes no sense. It doesn't seem to have anything to do with boring guys being boring & unsuccessful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/16 03:05 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Boring men are just boring, and fail as both alphas and betas.Your post is mixed up in a way that needs a little unpacking. Let's see what your view is: Boring men are just boring. Women want playful/fun (not boring) men for long term partners. Therefore, boring men fail as both "alphas" and "betas". All of the issue in your CMV centers around #3, because 1 is just an empty truth and 2 is common sense (yeah... women like fun guys). What does it mean to 'fail'? What does it mean to be alpha -- specifically a failing one? What does it mean to be beta -- spec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/16 05:35 PM |
| 1 | Unless you're an 8+ male you are better off being in a relationship.do people actually consider most female pornstars above a 6? Most of them aren't particularly pretty, I think. Even if you think a bunch of porn stars aren't "8s", guys will search out in a matter of 5 minute something they find exciting with someone in it they find to be very sexy. Guys don't tend to use bland looking Jain Does... so yeah, I also honestly believe that porno has skewed a lot of peoples' perception of sex and who they would consider banging. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/16 07:26 AM |
| 1 | CMV - STEM Careers are for Betas and OmegasAbsolutely. I work in the industry myself and had to make friends outside of work. It's because literally every single person except two I work with is just a buzzkill. They're decent people. I enjoy talking to them at work as far as that goes. I'll do some happy hours. They're fine. But my god, they're so incredibly passive aggressive. I don't know the exact word to describe it -- they're inexperienced, lack street smarts, they're naive. It's something like that. It's like they don't have lives… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/16 07:10 AM |
| 1 | CMV: ForeverAlones, incels, and neckbeards need to present themselves as asexual to be tolerated by women.ForeverAlones, incels, and neckbeards need to present themselves as asexual to be tolerated by women. If such a man shows sexual interest in a woman, he'll get branded as a creep. If he admits that he has sexual desires for any woman, other men will look at him funny for admitting that he has sexual desires like any other man. These low-status, unattractive men need to present themselves as more or less asexual in order to be tolerated. Anything outside of that is asking for trouble. Creepy isn'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/16 07:12 AM |
| 2 | Have you ever seen or known a 40+ year old man go out with or hookup with a 8/10, or very attractive girl in college?I see it all the time when I visit a this swanky upscale bar every now and then. Sure, most 40 year old men are dating 30-40, but you'll commonly see a 20-30 year old dating an ancient, rich man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/16 06:42 AM |
| 1 | Have you ever seen or known a 40+ year old man go out with or hookup with a 8/10, or very attractive girl in college?I have been to many college bars, never seen even a 30 year old getting with a girl in college. The thing about that is a 30 year old can look very similar to a 20 year old, especially if he works out and wears modern clothes. It's funny that you think you can confirm it's never happened around you like you're some magical judge of age. I searched up "30 year old" into google. Here's a guy that just looks like a typical artsy hipster type in college. Here's a skinny type, Ben Whishaw, about 32 i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/16 06:40 AM |
| 2 | Don't let this take over your lifeFuck that advice, if you think seduction is that important, approach as many women as you want. Learning how to hit up women is hard work for someone without experience, and things that are hard work can't really become addictions that take over your life. It's like how we've never seen anyone warn not to go to the gym too much and let it consume you... yeah people have the opposite problem with the gym just like they do with talking to women. (in other words, #1 and #5 aren't really a problem) … | /r/seduction | 25/09/16 11:58 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: What IS feminism?It's got a lot of meanings based on context, but it's used in casual conversation to mean something very lightweight like 'I don't support hurting women or enslaving them." So if anyone ever says they're a feminist while describing themselves, without any other info, you should take it as an empty filler truth on the same level as admitting you like honesty in relationships. That's basically what it means. Pretty much 100% of people think the same thing. Just say, "Yeah, me too. I think women sh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/16 07:42 AM |
| 2 | Stop Taking Pride In Not Knowing How To Do Basic ShitIt's generally a good idea to have a baseline physical to make sure your hormones are in the right range, to establish what 'normal' is for your hormones, and to get STD checks. I've honestly never heard of anyone with a full time job not getting a yearly. Think about it this way... take your thyroid levels. it might be most people fall between .1 and .2, but if you consistently get it tested every year and find yours is always about .12, going up to .18 shows something is going on even though i… | /r/becomeaman | 23/09/16 04:47 AM |
| 3 | There are more naturally alpha men in society (who have never heard of TRP, but acts exactly how TRP recommends) than TRP alpha men -- yet Feminists/TBP don't give a shit about the formerBut despite being extremely more numerous, it doesn't seem like individuals from https://www.np.reddit.com/r/thebluepill or any feminists against the manosphere actually hate these men. Words like fuck boy and player have a negative connotation. People generally look down on extremely promiscuous sex, especially if it feels dishonest. You might point out that they still get sex and then ask "so how could there be hate?" Well, part of the routine of being a player is to deny being a player... bec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/16 08:16 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Men who envy/idolise “players” are like starving people who envy gluttonsInexperience isn't the cause of idealizing the act of womanizing The glutton analogy falls apart when you think about the differences between eating and romancing women. The first one has no skill -- you just eat a bunch -- whereas the other involves charm and other skills. When someone admires "players", they aren't admiring the lifestyle of promiscuous sex as much as they are admiring the possibility of it. For it to be possible, a player has to have those actual skills. And those skills like … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/16 10:53 AM |
| 18 | How to know a girl likes you and how stupid I am.say yo girl u likin me orrrr ? then u sexin ;) | /r/seduction | 16/09/16 09:03 AM |
| 11 | How do you break up with someone in a nice way? One thing that has stopped me from pursuing is I psych myself out that there is no future and I am just avoiding a future awkward breakup.Rule number one is don't give 100% honest answers, because those answers will usually be along the lines of "you aren't what I'm looking for, because of ...". And no matter how rational you try to be or how much you try to convince that it's your personal tastes or how good your intentions are (you just want to remove confusion/be honest/help her not wonder), whatever you say will come off as insulting. That increases chances of a bad break up, crazy ex kind of shit. It's better to do the old fa… | /r/seduction | 12/09/16 05:58 AM |
| 1 | Rape (via an attacking tribe) would have been inefficient in prehistory as it wouldn't have produced any babies?This is not a CMV. It is a discussion point. Who cares what TRP have in their sidebar? Ok, either way, the discussion doesn't belong here, because it has nothing to do with what TRP people believe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 03:03 AM |
| 1 | Rape (via an attacking tribe) would have been inefficient in prehistory as it wouldn't have produced any babies?I think purple pill CMVs are supposed to center around the topics present in TRP. I just did a quick look and the history of rape isn't part of TRP, couldn't find it in any thread or on the side panel. Maybe try /r/AskHistorians/ or the more general /r/changemyview/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 09:07 AM |
| 1 | Why it's important to say Nobe urself...bad advice for the avg joe...if you don't have much going for u, don't be weird Yup, don't be weird. Nope, if you're the average Joe, don't be yourself. Improve yourself to be an above average Joe. Dressing past high school is a simple and effective right step. | /r/becomeaman | 06/09/16 06:24 AM |
| 2 | Why it's important to say NoNot even when I was a kid. My parents had money, thankfully. | /r/becomeaman | 05/09/16 09:09 PM |
| 6 | This is why girls don't make sense to you. You're listening wrong. [xpost from /r/socialskills]She's flirting, impossible to say whether it's cuz she likes you or cuz she's bored. Beyond that, I'll point out I think the convo has led to a point where you can't really directly ask to hangout without coming off badly. You just asked, she deflected, so don't ask again. You've got to play it by ear and do basically anything else. Some ideas: Say nothing (you've gotta be the type that often stops randomly in good or bad convos or else it'll come off as passive aggressiveness when you do it onl… | /r/seduction | 01/09/16 04:36 AM |
| 2 | [Debate] Do women like sex as much as men do?You'd fucking know if you fucked every now and then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 05:14 AM |
| 0 | 4 Tips For Eliminating Approach AnxietyYou can rationalize it however you want man, fact of the matter is you sound pretty young and unaware of certain people's tendencies to become dependant on these things after a while. Trust me I've had plenty of experiences with a gamut of different illicit substances (many times with absolutely mindbendimg results while fucking), but advocating strangers to rail coke or slam painkillers seems like a bad idea to overcome something as basic and "day 1" as approach anxiety. No, you haven't. It sho… | /r/seduction | 23/08/16 06:52 AM |
| 1 | 4 Tips For Eliminating Approach AnxietySee what happens after a while. Drug addicts aren't exactly very attractive. Tons of successful people party periodically, and it takes much more than doing random drugs to become an addict. The key is not forming habits. Pop a molly once a month or two. Take some opiates every couple of weeks. Start the night off with a little addy every few weeks. Do a little cocaine every month or so. Take a fourth a bar sometime. Keep your tolerances low and have a good time. Have a sober couple of weeks, yo… | /r/seduction | 23/08/16 06:21 AM |
| 0 | 4 Tips For Eliminating Approach AnxietyI think I figured out why women don't like you... | /r/seduction | 23/08/16 05:35 AM |
| 1 | 4 Tips For Eliminating Approach AnxietyWhat's the difference? Other drugs are so much better than alcohol, anyway. With alcohol, a little does the right thing, but doesn't do much. A lot just sucks all around. You become unattractive while you're drunk and the next day sucks. | /r/seduction | 23/08/16 05:34 AM |
| 7 | 4 Tips For Eliminating Approach AnxietyDrugs are awesome. | /r/seduction | 23/08/16 02:30 AM |
| 38 | 4 Tips For Eliminating Approach AnxietyJust pop some e or painkillers. Rail some coke. One of these three will get you out of your shell. | /r/seduction | 22/08/16 06:33 PM |
| 3 | What character traits do men like in women for a relationship?Fun, social, and charming. It's good if she has self-esteem. I don't see how intelligence matters too much. If I enjoy being around someone, how fast they can deduce something doesn't really matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 09:07 AM |
| 6 | Study: Men are less likely to use protection when their female partner is more physically attractiveThat's crazy talk. It's something that's described in TRP as well ("beta bux" "the wall" etc.). Men who snag a hot one when they're losers often plug their ears and justify any risk or downside to maintain his sole lasting relationship with someone attractive. I work in an industry with a lot of smart, high paid people, and it happens all over the place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 03:07 AM |
| 4 | Disrespect from girl friendFrom what he wrote, it sounds like she's just a friend in his social circle. I don't think NEXT applies in that situation since she's gonna be around in that circle of friends no matter what he does and since he hasn't said he's trying to date her. | /r/becomeaman | 21/08/16 07:46 PM |
| 3 | Disrespect from girl friendFrom what he wrote, it sounds like she's just a friend in his social circle. | /r/becomeaman | 21/08/16 07:45 PM |
| 1 | Disrespect from girl friendSounds like she's just a friend and she misused something you own. The only answer people who know nothing about your situation can say is that you should definitely evaluate your friendship and see how you feel about it. Other than that, if you choose to stay around her or if she's in your social circle (so you have no choice), you should be civil but not trust her as much. You could also consider having a chit chat with her if you choose to stay around her, telling her that it wasn't right for… | /r/becomeaman | 21/08/16 06:35 PM |
| 5 | Isn't accepting responsibility for yourself more advantageous for women?Just remember to strap up. Do you mean.... wrap up? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/16 08:50 AM |
| 11 | Do women want to be dominated by their partners? Appearently not, but researchers really seem to want to convince themselves otherwise.I'll briefly just say that in matters like this, there's no need to debate much of anything at all. Just date a few girls and try out different things. You'll figure out what works and what doesn't. "Dominance" is a really vague word that can mean quite a lot in a relationship. Do you mean sexually? Do you mean controlling peoples' behavior? Do you mean stonewalling and creating hardcore ultimatums? Do you mean simply being a leader, having ideas that are appreciated? There's a lot of variation … | /r/ExRedPill | 16/08/16 01:27 AM |
| 0 | I am not a pick up expert but I just wanted to share my experiences on "complimenting" peopleThank you, but I think you may have missed the meaning. | /r/seduction | 14/08/16 03:56 AM |
| -2 | I am not a pick up expert but I just wanted to share my experiences on "complimenting" peopleI use a four part combination to smooth talk. There's a concept of Yin and Yang. While different, these two things are part of the same home circle, and interestingly enough, as different as they are, they have intimate contact and touch each other. It's hard to say they're different when they are part of the same home plane. I think many of us forget this point but I can't help but be reminded of this fantastic passage from Herman Melville's Moby Dick. I think this pagaraph perfectly exemplifie… | /r/seduction | 13/08/16 11:19 PM |
| 3 | If men are the "gatekeepers to commitment", then why are men the ones who propose to women, & are more likely than women to commit to multiple people (via polygamy)?There's a whole community of people who struggle to have sex and then end up fantasizing about/loving someone they're only in a platonic relationship with. Or worse, they fantasize about/love/claim they would give everything for a person they aren't even that much in a platonic relationship with. Yeah, they're plain old loser guys, but that's a defining thing about them. No one wants what they have to offer -- but that doesn't mean they still don't offer it. Loser women have similar problems, lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/16 08:05 AM |
| 8 | [Discussion] What does the apparent lack of ex-redpillers tell us about TRP's accuracy?The premise you guys make is that TRP is wrong on every level, is miosgynist, and will ruin or make into assholes the majority of guys who believe it. The issue with things like reddit is it simulates a conversation, and those normally happened between 2 people. That's an issue, because I never said that, and I'm honestly not sure /u/Sandralees ever said that either. There's a nexus of personality traits that are, to be frank, weak and gross. They're less about helping other people and more abou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/16 07:59 PM |
| 9 | "Women are turned on by being wanted"And then creates a long running platonic relationship while he fetishizes turning it romantic. He confuses himself about if the relationship is clearly platonic or if "hints" are actually confirmation that it's not. That confusion will lead to frustration and stewing over it until one big finale where, due to there being a 100% solidified non-romantic relationship for so long + no natural build up, comes off as completely freaky. At that point, he'll either blame himself and understand or blame … | /r/seduction | 07/08/16 09:59 AM |
| 2 | I still don't think I understand what the hell theredpill is about?I work in a fruit and veg store That explains it, must not have done too well at thinkin'. | /r/ExRedPill | 05/08/16 06:04 PM |
| 3 | I still don't think I understand what the hell theredpill is about?It's too complex to paint it all with one brush, and that's actually part of what it is. The language is intentionally divisive and intense to leave things open for interpretation rather than clear to avoid concise examination. One central method is using extreme black-and-white caricatures. This way, it can simultaneously meet the needs of people who 100% hate women/blame others/think of the caricatures as very strong truths (or absolute truths) all the way to the people who just use the carica… | /r/ExRedPill | 05/08/16 05:42 AM |
| 4 | CMV In the modern world, men have to deal with just as many, if not more, unrealistic standards as women.Life isn't fair. Deal with it. Just as I have been told time and time again when asking why the people who bullied me are not permanently single. This has nothing to do with what this thread is about -- it's about discussing the unfairness and judging if it's harder for men or women. It's not about fixating on the unfairness or getting over it. The fact that you mention it randomly in the middle of a discussion that has nothing to do with it indicates you have issues with the "bullying" you rece… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/16 07:38 AM |
| 7 | CMV In the modern world, men have to deal with just as many, if not more, unrealistic standards as women.Could be because the demands of women don't decrease with their looks. An average girl still has the same list of demands that the model woman has. So if the effort is the same, why not go for maximum roi? And you've suddenly confirmed my point -- as you're describing it, women are just their looks. Your "rate of return" has no component of education, personality, loyalty, etc. The looks are a requirement, because our society has a heavy emphasis on judging the worth of a woman based solely on i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/16 07:23 AM |
| 3 | CMV In the modern world, men have to deal with just as many, if not more, unrealistic standards as women.There's two key parts that distinguish the stuff you listed for men from the stuff you listed for women. First, the stuff listed for women (looking good etc.) are more required than just an ideal. You can be as "anti 3rd wave feminism" as you want and still acknowledge that women in the workplace can sometimes feel "required" to do their hair or wear heels even in a place without a strict dress code. It's also no secret that the dumbest silliest boys in school can still be cool -- they may have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/16 07:01 AM |
| 2 | CMV: There is no rape culture in the United States.We may not have an overall rape culture, but there have been cultures within it that help make it easier for rapists. You're not going to change the view of someone who doesn't believe we have a rape culture by admitting we don't have a rape culture... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 07:59 AM |
| 2 | According to sex-positive feminism, sex is a fundamentally healthy and non-shameful thing. So why won't feminists support me going up to women in public and asking them for sex?You've got this whole thing backward. I didn't say sex is intimate or not. He said that you cannot think that sex is intimate and at the same time be "sex-positive". All I did was point out, "Sure you can". The definition posted, in fact, has nothing to do with intimacy, as you noted. You can be sex positive and believe sex is highly intimate or you can believe it can be shared between strangers. The key part of the definition is a lack of stigma. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/16 01:44 AM |
| 3 | According to sex-positive feminism, sex is a fundamentally healthy and non-shameful thing. So why won't feminists support me going up to women in public and asking them for sex?Your generalizations are shit and wrong. My generalizations are gloriously correct because I have stated them." The primary issue here is we're not actually talking about anything. You're putting a whole bunch of words in my mouth and basically pretending like I personally rejected all "red pill generalizations". You'd have to ask me about a specific one to see if I actually don't agree with it. Aside from that, you have to concede that in matters of social theory, it very much falls into the pu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/16 08:24 PM |
| 6 | According to sex-positive feminism, sex is a fundamentally healthy and non-shameful thing. So why won't feminists support me going up to women in public and asking them for sex?I thought we weren't supposed to generalize about women. Which is it? You do realize that you are inherently at a disadvantage once you decide to start attempting to justify a social stigma or shaming with regard to sex. RPs have been doing it much longer and we are bound to recognize any rationale you employ since we've already long used them. You're saying that if someone wants to have sex intimately, that they're stigmatizing sex or shaming sex. There's a key problem here. Doing something wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/16 09:49 AM |
| 3 | How to transition from hooking up to a relationship?transition into a relationship without putting myself out there a bit That's what a relationship is, less about weird political shit and more about genuine care and trust. If you want to start dating her, just talk to her about it. Based on how you feel, you can directly ask it or you can start giving hints and judging her reaction. direct "We have a lot of fun together. Could you ever see us being exclusive?" Indirect "I like you a lot, I have a great time with you" Be direct once you feel it w… | /r/seduction | 30/07/16 09:10 AM |
| 1 | Female friends are a worthy asset - RP should change its stanceBecause you're still putting your sexual success and fulfillment in the hands of someone else; you're not taking ownership. I don't think being oblivious to what someone can do for you is very wise... In a way, having people who can help you out is personal empowerment and an option you generated. If you weren't their friend or whatever, you'd not have the option. Maybe you mean something more along the lines that you shouldn't put all your eggs in one basket, and that basket especially shouldn'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/16 06:30 PM |
| 1 | Female friends are a worthy asset - RP should change its stanceI want to cover all bases at a very high level, nothing too in depth. There's actually 2 general causes to that happening: 1. You treat your friends with too much enthusiasm and attachment. 2. You don't, and the people not treating you that way aren't true friends. Another side note to add is that don't forget that relationships develop organically and slowly. I just wrote about this here: One last important thing, most relationships start out that way anyway to some extent, because you don't ju… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/16 06:20 PM |
| 2 | Female friends are a worthy asset - RP should change its stanceThat's actually what my whole post is about. A woman can be a great friend if she's actually a friend and you actually enjoy her friendship. If you are being manipulated, however, that's not a real friend. It's toxic and you have to cut your losses and move on. And it is a loss, I never anticipate or want someone to waste my time, use me, or anything like that. If it happens, the only thing to do is stop letting it happen by ending that "friendship". But also make sure not to think about it in s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/16 06:06 PM |
| 2 | Female friends are a worthy asset - RP should change its stanceLike most things in life, it just depends on the situation. If you are an actual friend to a girl, meaning she willingly invites you out with her other girlfriends, and you actually enjoy her social circle, that's a great connect. You can meet a lot of new women that way. If you're in an "isolated" relationship with her and only friends, then you're basically being manipulated. She doesn't value you as an actual friend or else she'd call you out with the squad. She's using you when she's bored o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/16 09:11 AM |
| 1 | For the romantics out there - Advice from a 49 yr. oldYeah, don't get me wrong, opening up and sharing experiences that aren't just flat out complaints is generally good. You want to avoid "My washer is broken, my ex boyfriend keeps calling and I sort of like him, there's this guy at work" kind of complaints. That's a line to draw, because those are just buzzkills that friends tell each other because they're looking to decompress. Think about it this way, if you met someone just fresh, would you complain about random annoyances a bunch? Put another… | /r/seduction | 28/07/16 05:43 PM |
| 1 | For the romantics out there - Advice from a 49 yr. oldseems to be why women always want to tell me about all their problems, and I wind up being the advice giver/empathetic friend. If you want to be someone's romantic partner, you're not there to give her advice... until the point when you both really care about each other and aren't in the beginning of a new relationship. When she starts complaining, don't play along. You've got all sorts of ways to do that... Listen to it, give a nonanswer like "huh, weird" and change the topic/let that topic fiz… | /r/seduction | 28/07/16 09:01 AM |
| 0 | CMV: There is nothing wrong with being a Misogynist.Proud of what? Annoying how? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/16 01:12 AM |
| 1 | CMV: There is nothing wrong with being a Misogynist."Proud Annoying Person" confirmed! I hope you realize how little "proud annoying person" means to anyone. I honestly have no idea what you are trying to hint at. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/16 01:32 AM |
| 2 | CMV: There is nothing wrong with being a Misogynist.If you want to know about the ethics involved, you should most likely read an overview of it since it's been studied heavily for the last 2000 years instead of asking strangers on Reddit. I think a very simple way to reason about it comes from the silver rule, don't treat others how you wouldn't want to be treated. The truth behind this statement is that if you mistreat others, you set a precedent for others to mistreat you. If your society fully accepts that mistreatment on aimless, random grou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/16 04:26 PM |
| 1 | The common TRP trope of "wait until you lose your job and then she's gone" is because him losing his job was the last strawWould "lust vs love" be more appealing to you? Because that paradigm has been widely accepted for millennia, and is still the dominant paradigm for understanding sex/love/relationships. You're just not getting it, man. Adults don't use paradigms -- we're not story writers constructing a story in need of a personality to fill out an empty spot. We meet people, have our own boundaries, have loose explanations for why people do what they do, and we judge people as we meet them. I'm not sure what el… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/16 09:00 PM |
| 1 | The common TRP trope of "wait until you lose your job and then she's gone" is because him losing his job was the last strawYes, you're right that a man is seen as the guy who opens the door, pays for the date, and becomes the breadwinner. These are common concepts in American culture. These concepts are not what makes the first post very weird or angled oddly. The issue is that he has logged on to discuss the "lover vs provider" paradigm in a way that reminds me of the simplicity found in children's storybooks. The OP's question in the first place has the same embarrassing simplicity - it just makes no sense. Have y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/16 06:28 PM |
| 1 | The common TRP trope of "wait until you lose your job and then she's gone" is because him losing his job was the last strawWay to be intentionally obtuse... Completely serious, you're the one doing that here. The words he used are not in the "normal" way. He's speaking about shit in a very weird way that most people wouldn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/16 06:06 AM |
| 1 | The common TRP trope of "wait until you lose your job and then she's gone" is because him losing his job was the last strawIt indicators he's lost touch. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/16 02:12 AM |
| 1 | The common TRP trope of "wait until you lose your job and then she's gone" is because him losing his job was the last strawYes, you're right.... provider is an English word. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/16 02:12 AM |
| 1 | The common TRP trope of "wait until you lose your job and then she's gone" is because him losing his job was the last strawYes, let's pretend that people using the word "provides" means they are in sync with PUA. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/16 02:11 AM |
| 1 | The common TRP trope of "wait until you lose your job and then she's gone" is because him losing his job was the last strawWell, you didn't read the post, so what's the point? Do you just want to feel heard? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/16 06:16 PM |
| 0 | The common TRP trope of "wait until you lose your job and then she's gone" is because him losing his job was the last strawHave you ever talked to people outside the internet? Yes, both of those things are really weird to say. In fact, I've never heard them outside the internet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/16 06:15 PM |
| 1 | The common TRP trope of "wait until you lose your job and then she's gone" is because him losing his job was the last strawCome on, we both know the that the "provider vs lover" idea is unique to some parts of the internet. Yes, "provider" is more understandable than some other terms, but it's still an angle that people don't use in real life. Normal ways of phrasing the same idea are things like, "I don't want to be used" or "I want to be cared about legitimately". You see, normal people phrase it as a matter of self-respect and common sense. Weirdos on the internet phrase it as some sort of weird game where you ch… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/16 06:15 PM |
| 0 | The common TRP trope of "wait until you lose your job and then she's gone" is because him losing his job was the last strawNot sure what you're saying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/16 03:57 PM |
| 1 | The common TRP trope of "wait until you lose your job and then she's gone" is because him losing his job was the last strawHmmm? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/16 03:56 PM |
| 1 | The common TRP trope of "wait until you lose your job and then she's gone" is because him losing his job was the last strawWhat? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/16 03:56 PM |
| 0 | The common TRP trope of "wait until you lose your job and then she's gone" is because him losing his job was the last strawWhy are you replying? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/16 03:56 PM |
| 1 | The common TRP trope of "wait until you lose your job and then she's gone" is because him losing his job was the last strawWhy are you replying? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/16 03:56 PM |
| -1 | The common TRP trope of "wait until you lose your job and then she's gone" is because him losing his job was the last strawI doubt it. If she left after you lost your job it's probably because your role in her life was a provider rather than an attractive mate. I'm just taking this opportunity to "bring you back from the jargon". Why are you using such weird words that no one outside a small group of people on the internet use? Couldn't you have phrased this in a way that's normal? If she leaves you after you lose your job and you're a good guy doing good things, she most likely wasn't into you for you. She didn't l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/16 07:58 AM |
| 0 | The common TRP trope of "wait until you lose your job and then she's gone" is because him losing his job was the last strawLook, these things aren't black-or-white. It's not as if women either leave or they leave cuz it's the last straw (or they don't leave at all). I'm not sure what "debate" is even going on here. Are we debating on what a woman is more likely to do in a way that, if it theoretically existed, we could just look at the stats, get the answer, and shut down the thread? "Oh yes, 45% of women left cuz it was the last straw. bal bla bla bla" What are the takeaways? What's the point? Am I supposed to be s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/16 07:28 AM |
| 2 | Completely new to this, and asking for adviceit's only going to reinforce the belief that he's not good enough for a girl to want to do fun things to him on her own, but needs to bribe her with money. About the opposite thing here. Glorifying the company of women as being some sacred, pure thing (i.e. "don't let it be the company of a PAID STRIPPER!!") is half his mental block. He needs to chill out and realize a woman is a person and what he shares with her isn't a token he trades in that stands for who he is as a person, his moral workin… | /r/seduction | 19/07/16 05:09 PM |
| 2 | Completely new to this, and asking for adviceWhen you say you "freeze up", you're hands down just completely out of your element when it comes to a woman showing you any attention or being close to you. You need to get over that. A few options: Use raw determination and just fuck up a bunch until you stop caring. Use drugs and alcohol. Pay for and experience a woman's attention. For example, go to a strip club and just have some girl dance all over you and talk to you. Talk to her back. While doing any of this, try verbalizing the fact tha… | /r/seduction | 19/07/16 09:10 AM |
| 1 | What are the most controversial RP views?I mean, the title does say something and the very first sentence says it's literal. Reading the post, though, makes it clear that it's just talking about how animalistic passion is sexy between consenting adults. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/16 09:02 AM |
| 1 | CMV: a high n-count doesn't mean that a women has no self control or can't think future orientedBut if you ask her about her count alone then all she can do is answer and let you judge her by a number without knowing how she got it. That's shitty and she knows it. It's like your mother knows that you fucked up, but doesn't want you to know and keeps on asking weird questions until you fuck it up yourself and have to admit that you are guilty. Right, it's rude or weird in a lot of situations. If you ask her about the dating history you can share stories and talk for hours. That's interestin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/16 05:26 PM |
| 17 | If You're Lonely, Stay Far Away From TRPEvery cult is built around some kernel of truth. The hard part is sifting that truth from the bullshit and understanding how the myopic lens changes the truth into something dangerous. This isn't what I'm talking about. The OP went from blaming women to blaming TRP. He just needs to chill and not think in extreme black-and-whites. He needs to understand the role he himself plays in his own behavior. | /r/ExRedPill | 18/07/16 04:55 PM |
| 18 | If You're Lonely, Stay Far Away From TRPI realize this is /r/exredpill, but you've got to give credit where it's due. The least controversial thing TRP tells its members to do is work on themselves with things like working out and getting into hobbies, and that sounds a lot unlike blaming women for not liking you. It sounds more like blaming yourself for not being attractive and then working on it. I'm actually curious, what part of their ideas did you interpret as meaning "blame women who don't like me"? I looked up dating advice onl… | /r/ExRedPill | 18/07/16 09:35 AM |
| 2 | CMV: a high n-count doesn't mean that a women has no self control or can't think future orientedLiterally nobody I have ever dated has asked me what my n count is. Ever. One fuckbuddy has and he was a goddamn insecure mess. Well, that's because it's a really bad question to ask someone you've just met. It comes off a little rude or weird in plenty of contexts. Maybe you've been asked less extreme versions like someone asking about your dating history or what the longest relationship you've ever had was? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/16 05:39 AM |
| 4 | RPW, if you date men with alpha qualities, don't you just risk becoming alpha widows?TRP concepts are imprecise enough to mean basically anything to anyone, but you can usually interpret the statements in a way that's reasonable enough not to be ridiculous. "alpha widow" might mean something more along the lines of dating a fun, charming, yet uncommitted guy that more or less strings a woman along until the relationship ends. At that point, her experiences could change her in plenty of ways. She might be really realistic and take it for what it is. It doesn't impact her much at … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/16 11:57 PM |
| 2 | The meaning of sex for menIn another active thread here, there is a subconversation about how sex is supposed to be both a necessary and meaningful part of a man's affection and bonding, AND an itch he just needs to scratch with any nubile body. As a man, I can tell you that I bond with women I frequently sleep with and that after 2 days, I'm the horniest person who wants to get at it even if it's with someone I haven't bonded with. I think that should be enough, but from what you're saying, it sounds like you need an an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/16 08:23 AM |
| 1 | How do RP guys even enjoy sex like that?What signal, other than abuse, does this send to her partner? What type of fucked up bullshit relationship is it where a woman demands sex, then it isn't good enough, so she says "nevermind"? For the fact that I had to spell it out means that there is little chance you could understand what happened to that man, but maybe you understand the narcissism brewing in the woman's mind. I think if you wrote less, and used less random TRP jargon, you could have cleared the opposition away with this litt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/16 06:10 PM |
| 3 | Do you see TRP as a cause of a problem or a symptom of a deeper problem?TRP is a symptom of a "problem" and the "problem" is a type of person who is generally inexperienced and primed to be manipulated, have low self-esteem, and in general, misjudge the world. If you look at "TRP truths", a lot of them are things that are really apparent to anyone who sees women as people, and as I have just mentioned, a lack of experience in these types of people caused them to do anything but that. They looked at women in a very narcissistic, self-centered, and delusional way: The… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/16 04:46 PM |
| 1 | What TRP gets wrong about "assholes" and getting laidLet me put it another way, I thought of this after I had posted. I was a little wrong, the whys are important in the long run. The whys will be answered. The issue here is that people are trying to understand the whys before their intuition understands the dos. It'd be like someone trying to explain how economic markets behave and change without ever having seen or appreciated a real economic market. Before you get into a deeper level of understanding, before you even really start studying the w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/16 02:29 AM |
| 2 | What TRP gets wrong about "assholes" and getting laid"Stop being poor, stop thinking about how to make more money and just go make more money" Great analogy -- for me. There's two topics I want to go over here. The first is that you seem to be confused with what I wrote, because I didn't tell people not to think about things. That's ridiculous since thinking about stuff is how you improve, reflecting on your experiences. The second is that "how you make money" analogy is a perfect argument for what I'm saying. stop thinking about how to make more … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/16 06:52 PM |
| 2 | What TRP gets wrong about "assholes" and getting laidConfidence and the IDGAF mentality gets you laid. You can have both those things as an asshole or as a nice person. Your call. I think you're looking at the wrong piece of the equation. What gets someone laid is making others feel comfortable around you, forming a connection, and being fun. That is the main focus. The fact that you need confidence to do that... or else you aren't even talking to the girl you want is sort of obvious. The fact that being anxious makes others uncomfortable is commo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/16 07:34 AM |
| 2 | why is it that the same feminist who tell men its okay to be weak turn around and ridicule them by calling them nice guys and neckbeards ?Second of all, why are they pretending to give a shit about me when they don't? I don't know why, but I can bet it's not a good reason. It's important to remember that they're struck with real delusions. To them, they actually believe they care about you or whoever else they creep out. But they don't actually. Third of all, they clearly are pretending to give a shit about me for a reason that I probably can't comply to, and I'm betting they won't react well since they a) don't give a shit about … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/16 10:29 PM |
| 14 | why is it that the same feminist who tell men its okay to be weak turn around and ridicule them by calling them nice guys and neckbeards ?Look, man, you seem to be oblivious to this whole thing, so I'm going to take the time to explain this to you as simply and reasonably as I can for your benefit. I'm doing this for you. I want to carve out a type of person for you to visualize -- and unless you've met them before, you probably wouldn't even realize it's a real thing. It just sounds so unreasonable. The combination sounds like a damn paradox. And the funny thing is, if you were one, by definition, you'd not realize it. You'd have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/16 05:52 AM |
| 5 | why is it that the same feminist who tell men its okay to be weak turn around and ridicule them by calling them nice guys and neckbeards ?Questions like these can't really be serious... what's the point you're trying to make? Would you like me to find some quotes from serial murderers that supported murdering people and then ask why "criminals think serial murder is ok?" Your question can't be serious, it just can't. You have to be smarter than that. There's really no other explanation other than you're trolling this subreddit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/16 05:25 AM |
| 5 | CMV: the success of obese women with healthy men on Tinder disproves the common Bluepill meme that incels have excessively high standards for sex partners.I'm just curious... let's say no one changes your view and everyone in the world agreed with you. What's your point? What are you wanting the takeaway to be? What should men/women do differently if they believe in your ideas? Should what they do differ based on which bucket they fall into (e.g. handsome, normal, ugly)? I'm asking this, because from my perspective, life is sort of how it is. People behave the way they will. I might have an overarching theory everyone agrees with -- let's say "ste… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/16 11:46 PM |
| 1 | [Q4Women] Do you ever get tired of being feminine?What does difficulty have to do with it? The question is literally "Is it hard to be feminine all the time". That's asking... if it's difficult. I don't see the block you're having. I didn't read any further since you've shown a pretty strong ability to be oblivious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/16 07:21 AM |
| 2 | [Q4Women] Do you ever get tired of being feminine?is it hard for a cow to be a cow? a cat to be a cat? being feminine isnt an act feminine women put on. they arent secretly nerd men cosplaying being women That's a really silly thing to say, the issue with your analogy is that people have that special stuff that animals don't have. A cat or cow just does its shit and moves on. A man or a woman might have a natural way of behaving while still considering it hard. Or even a person, that doesn't have to be a question about sex. Take a neutral examp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/16 05:10 AM |
| 3 | CMV: incels are stuck because they have no abundance mentality.There's not just one thing that stops a guy from getting action. There's all sorts of things. Cleanliness Style (needs to at least look like a grown up) Raw physical attractiveness (might need to work out a bit if he looks deathly thin or diet if he's huge) Not fighting a battle he can win (If he's extremely inexperienced and actually wants to get laid, if his ego can allow it, he needs to hit on lower quality people -- fatter, uglier, worse style, etc. If he just walks up to hot women that the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/16 05:00 PM |
| 11 | Question for men: When have you turned down sex? Question for women: When have you been turned down?I've turned down sex from girlfriends after we'd argued and they wanted to make up but I was still not happy with the situation. I don't think anyone would say anything different about that, though, since if you are still feeling conflict over something with your girlfriend, you're not exactly wanting to spend time with them in any way, sexually included. I've turned down chicks that weren't my type. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/16 08:11 AM |
| 2 | Growth: A short parable and lessonMe: "Absolutely not! If you have the perfect conditions and protect them from everything and (giving him my best Dad scolding eye) if you do everything for them and give them everything they want, they will never be able to survive when they get out of the house." This is one of the worst analogies I've heard in a while, because it makes no sense at all. You absolutely want your vegetables to grow in great conditions. The better the conditions, the stronger and healthier they become. Vegetables … | /r/MarriedRedPill | 20/03/16 09:08 AM |
| 0 | The "go to the bar for me" shit testSentence. Ad hominem. Sentence. There isn't a debate going on (what exactly are you arguing?) so there isn't a fallacy. People often misunderstand that when they first learn about arguments and fallacies. It's a bit like how your engine can't run out of gas when you're walking and have no engine. Your first reply to me was an ad hominem by your own logic... without a sandwich of innocent sentences. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 17/03/16 05:54 PM |
| 1 | The "go to the bar for me" shit testNot sure how you can't agree with the sentiment that a person should pay attention to the impact they have. I've generally seen people adopt your opinion when they suck shit at life. It's a way for them to avoid blaming themselves and instead blame everyone else. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 17/03/16 05:44 PM |
| 0 | [Editorial]: Why RPW Hates MRP, or, How All of You Failed a Large-Scale Shit Test. Inspired by the recent PPD thread and BPP's Subsequent PostSo that's Red Pill, for men: execute a sexual strategy that maximizes sexual success for the man. I'm not even "red pill", but I've read enough to know they don't say that. They'd say they're presenting a great set of rules that apply to men and women, and you're encouraged to use them however you want. They say that to avoid being seen as recommending mean or immoral things. The distinction, however, is pretty much just a game, so maybe you're right -- maybe your description is better than mine… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 17/03/16 07:46 AM |
| 1 | The "go to the bar for me" shit testWhat happened here is that you gave shitty advice, it was downvoted, and you've obsessed on explaining to me, because apparently I'm the only one who will engage you. So I need to figure out why I would engage someone like you. Not sure why you're getting all political and trying to twist things into what they're not. But I see you're backing down into your corner. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 16/03/16 02:07 AM |
| 1 | The "go to the bar for me" shit testLook, man, since we're on the internet, you're not going to admit you're wrong and will just reach into fantasy or transform what I've said into something it isn't. But being a socially oblivious nimrod isn't what people have in mind when they caution you to live by the beat of your own drum and not care what others think. People who succeed pay attention to results, and how you impact others is part of that result. They pay attention to them and accept them. That part about acceptance is the ke… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 15/03/16 02:43 AM |
| 1 | The "go to the bar for me" shit testyou can make yourself useful and go to the bar and get drinks in That's not a quote from me. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 15/03/16 02:30 AM |
| 1 | The "go to the bar for me" shit testI'm not anti social, have plenty of experience around people, and have no fucks to give about others' perceptions. As a functioning person in society, I mean in business and in relationships, I honestly can't tell if you're oblivious to politics or just trolling. Sure, if you're dating white trash and work a job in construction, you can throw tact to the wind, but as soon as you start having business meetings or dating a woman with any sense of class, you're going to run into problems. A "no," f… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 14/03/16 12:42 PM |
| 6 | The "go to the bar for me" shit testjolly af He wrote that he replied "no" and that was followed by 10 seconds of awkward silence. I'm not sure what your definition of jolly is, and I'm glad I don't get it. What you're suggesting he do is justify his actions, to a bitch request. You're honestly overthinking this. I can only imagine it's because you don't have much experience with people. Awkwardness is just someone else's problem, that's like, their perception, man. Good god, you have the same opinion about people as a snarky, ant… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 14/03/16 10:55 AM |
| 2 | When should I break it off or keep trying?Sounds like things are developing all right... a little slower than others, maybe not as perfect as it could be. If you like her at all, why would you just break it off? At least try something to see if there's something there. You should aim to do things that are clearly romantic instead of possibly friendly... anything from holding hands and kissing to sex. Try something out to see if she thinks of the relationship in romantic terms or as just a friendship. At that point, you can decide whethe… | /r/seduction | 14/03/16 10:48 AM |
| 0 | The "go to the bar for me" shit testMy god man... try having a little bit of tact. You have to remember people say one thing and mean another all the time. It's to avoid awkwardness like that. Seriously, man, learn to "lie". Just say something like, "My seat's comfy, loving it too much to get up right now" and be jolly and smile. Why are you transforming this into some sort of bitter, awkward moment to "prove" yourself to someone? | /r/MarriedRedPill | 14/03/16 10:11 AM |
| 1 | Does a father's love for his children depend on how much he loves their mother?Looks like no one commenting here is a father with kids or better a father with multiple kids from different women. It's awesome, it speaks to the weirdly formal nature this subreddit takes on describing things. I'm talking about misusing scientific studies to create hard or strong rules instead of just using your social noggin. Consider a group of people discussing if a song is good. Do you want to be the one that contributes in a socially acceptable, normal way -- that you like this part, how … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/16 07:07 PM |
| 1 | Men and "touch isolation."I smack my roommate's butt a lot, hug him when he leaves for the weekend, and crack awkward jokes that break personal space barriers. You sound pretty weird... There's plenty of times when a man will jokingly slap his friend's butt, but how you're describing it sounds like you're doing it at the wrong times. You do it a lot?? What? I don't know man, you sound like that weird friend that is annoying but tolerated. You even describe your own behavior as awkward. Come on, dude, have some self-respe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/16 07:00 PM |
| 1 | 70% of the time "Nice Guys TM" are being used and strung along. The name calling and shaming is just a tactic to shift blame.I'm honestly not even sure how to respond to this. It comes off like you had this rant written ahead of time and just decided to pop it out here for some reason. I agree. My writing is good enough to seem like it had to be made over a long time. You claimed that women agree with one another about placing the blame for failed encounters squarely on men because "they've all had weird guys make them feel that way" Nope. I've said it repeatedly in what I wrote that there is no blame. It's a guy maki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/16 10:53 PM |
| 1 | 70% of the time "Nice Guys TM" are being used and strung along. The name calling and shaming is just a tactic to shift blame.You're talking about that study like it said women are a 10 on a scale that men are a 0 on. It just highlights a slight, measurable difference. What you're doing is like applying a study on what notes are in good music in a discussion on whether a song is good or bad. It just doesn't make sense and speaks to your inability to judge social things (music, people, art, etc.). You're clinging to formal studies as a way to invalidate the opinions of people who do have that ability and to validate you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/16 08:49 PM |
| 1 | 70% of the time "Nice Guys TM" are being used and strung along. The name calling and shaming is just a tactic to shift blame.Why would you throw away a really likely explanation and (mis)use a study that only loosely describes what's going on? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/16 07:42 PM |
| 2 | 70% of the time "Nice Guys TM" are being used and strung along. The name calling and shaming is just a tactic to shift blame.you can bet that the default reaction is blaming the guy as being an "entitled fake nice guy who was just friendly to get into her pants/wants a prize for common decency" and what not. That's how his behavior made the chick feel. That's the result of his actions, and it doesn't matter what he was intending. The reason women will generally agree with each other and accept it as obvious is that they've all had weird guys make them feel that way. It's like someone sharing that a poorly dressed hobo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/16 05:29 PM |
| 1 | 70% of the time "Nice Guys TM" are being used and strung along. The name calling and shaming is just a tactic to shift blame.You're talking about this like it's some sort of unfair conspiracy or something, but it's pretty simple... there is no shaming. There's only people explaining how they feel. The whole "nice guy tm" thing describes a socially inexperienced person that can really weird people out. Any sort of name calling is a result of how that person made others feel. On the other hand, the "asshole who pumped and dumped" doesn't make people feel weird, unsafe, annoyed, or awkward. Often, he's just having some c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/16 09:04 AM |
| 4 | Am I wrong for believing these things?I just believe a few things that I guess could be seen on the red side of the spectrum. Like, if I ever want to get married, it'd have to be with a virgin. Just the thought of someone elses dick and cum having been on the lips of the woman I'm supposed to be with for the rest of my life annoys me a bit. That's a personal sexual boundary that you have, and should share that with your partners. I can get why theyre against polyamory; I really dont care if someone else is polyamorous or whatever, b… | /r/ExRedPill | 01/03/16 08:41 AM |
| 2 | Men use love to get sex, women use sex to get love.I am saying that I agree with your comment above me-- the OP posed a one-sentence question which appears to have nothing to do with his title. I'm not going to speculate at what he means because that's a waste of time. For whatever reason, I thought you were saying you agree to imply some sort of deep TRP meaning (since you have a red emblem). Sorry about the confusion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/16 06:46 PM |
| 1 | Men use love to get sex, women use sex to get love.My thoughts exactly! You're in the same boat as the OP... being extremely vague as if everyone is you. I've got to be frank here, I'm not sure what you're implying or saying. With the OP, I can't really tell what he means by sex and love... is sex a stand-in for everything sexual? Is love a stand-in for... everything not sexual? Are one, the other, or both not stand-ins at all and instead literally love/sex? No one fucking knows, because this guy learned to write by reading pithy quotes from imp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/16 09:16 AM |
| 6 | Men use love to get sex, women use sex to get love.Why will women for money sit in front of camera for hours naked and masturbate for men? Men will not do the same Are you aware of supply and demand? More importantly, what does this have to do with your title? First, you are saying women use sex to get "love" and then write only about how women use sex to make money. Men use love to get sex, women use sex to get love. The bottom line is that people, men and women, are looking for a connection, looking to feel loved by someone they value. Could y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/16 08:52 AM |
| 3 | CMV: People don't see TRP for what it actually is.Whatever good or amoral parts there are in TRP, they're mostly common sense repeated in any form of self-help out there. TRP just dresses it up as a club to make the person with low self-esteem feel like he isn't doing self-help (just like "pick artistry" is just a rebanding of self-help as well). Then it gets worse, because some of those "normal" pieces of advice are decorated in weird metaphors that seem to say very bad things... it takes someone from TRP to assure us it means something totall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/16 03:21 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: Guys, how many have you have had a variant on this "Just Be Yourself" talk? BP and women, how do you respond?I'm going to bring the issue back into focus. Basically, yes, brutally honest people exist, and people can appreciate them for it. That doesn't mean you should expect everyone to be like that, because you should know better that most people don't feel comfortable saying bad things to peoples' faces even if they are asking a question whose honest answer is a bad thing. You've gotta use empathy. Do you yourself run around insulting people when they are self-deprecating, or do you do what most peop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/16 06:31 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: Guys, how many have you have had a variant on this "Just Be Yourself" talk? BP and women, how do you respond?One of my best friends also has zero luck with girls, and he's brutally honest with me as I am with him, and I appreciate that. I'd rather have the painful truth than white lies. Sounds like if your friend developed an ounce of tact, he might be better with women. Beyond that, people will of course become more honest as they develop a closer relationship with you. The chick some nerd texts, goes to the movie with her and some friend every now and then, and goes to class/studies with isn't that c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/16 05:35 PM |
| 3 | Discussion: Guys, how many have you have had a variant on this "Just Be Yourself" talk? BP and women, how do you respond?There's this weird obsession with the "be yourself talk", and it's absurd to stress over it. What do you expect someone to say? Do you expect someone to affirm you are shit, even if you are shit? There's a reason why when someone is self-deprecating, we generally think they're fishing for compliments... because affirming the opposite aka complimenting is the default way to avoid the awkward bullshit the complainer is putting your way. Be yourself usually doesn't literally mean don't change yours… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/16 09:37 AM |
| 7 | Both sides: What is an Alpha?TRP uses a circular definition... they define alpha as what attracts a woman and then complain that women don't like betas (which are defined as not alpha). If TRP's hypothesis is that women like men who are healthy, fit, and put together well, I'm not sure anyone is really arguing against that. I'm also not sure why an entire subreddit is dedicated to "exposing" that vacuous truth. What defines an attractive man (forgive me but I have to strip your question of its weird jargon)? It varies from … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/16 10:09 AM |
| 36 | If you behave like a "nice guy", and then complain that you get no sexual attention/reward from women for doing so...I'll share a little about how I think about this since I don't ever see anyone mention this. First off, I just want to mention "nice guy" is a bit vague... but we'll just call it a person, often from inexperience, who serves a series of uninterested women in an effort to show his worth to enter a relationship with her. He usually doesn't even serve more than one at a time since that form of cheating would betray the true love he feels. If nothing else, think of this as a caricature based on the … | /r/seduction | 13/02/16 10:47 AM |
| 2 | If not feminist dating advice, what do you think has contributed to the rise of so many socially awkward men?The internet surely helps weirdness and isolation. No matter how narrow or weird your tastes are, you can develop them online and meet people just like you. Before, the interest could exist, you could still be weird, but you couldn't cultivate it as quickly. You'd have to put some actual work to do that. If you're busy doing weird things, you're not busy chatting up normal people. No practice, no experience, no expertise. That's not to say people bad at fitting in haven't always existed. But I'd… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/16 10:28 AM |
| 1 | How is "women bring nothing to the table" not misogynistic?Colloquially, misogyny is anything that's not explicitly pro-women. Yeah, rocks are misogynist as well as the asteroids since they aren't explicitly pro-women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/16 11:17 AM |
| 4 | Confused regarding "Women In Love" on the RP's sidebar.But what causes some people to want, or even expect unconditional love? To me this is like growing up expecting to win the lottery, or have a pet dragon. And then you're somehow surprised when that doesn't happen? I can't wrap my head around it. Men who don't have much experience with women can become extremely attached and idealistically in love with the first person to give them the time of day. They will think of her as being the one, perfect, and if not perfect, absolutely deserving of absol… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/16 10:40 AM |
| 1 | So i just asked a girl out for the first time in my life, at 27...no one would be playing basketball if they stopped playing after missing a few throws in a row | /r/seduction | 05/02/16 08:27 PM |
| 3 | Women do like powerful men, but not in the way TRP thinks they do.Holy fuck man, I know you're just trying to make your "point" but this is just insane. Honestly, have you ever had a relationship with a chick? If she does cool things or has a life of her own, that brings a lot to the table -- the fact that she is interesting in addition to being someone to enjoy sex with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/16 09:54 AM |
| 1 | She's not ready for sex and I am conflicted about cheating on herShe says she's not ready and I am willing to give her time. ... I feel that if she's not ready then I need to look elsewhere for sex. You're saying you value her perspective strongly enough to a point where you won't even try to excite her about the idea of having sex with you but at the same time devalue it by going outside a relationship you agreed to? I can get women but I find myself not caring for them at all. I care for her and want my first time to be with her, as lame as that may sound t… | /r/seduction | 02/02/16 09:45 AM |
| 7 | How To Improve Your Conversation Skills - 4 Animated TipsMaking statements or sharing a perspective doesn't automatically mean you have shifted the conversation away from the other person or what they said. It doesn't mean you tried to 1-up them. It can mean these things, but it doesn't have to. Let's give a little example. Let's say someone just shared that they studied hard and got an A on a test and just so happy about it. You ask a quick question or two to get the full picture (you want more clues on what their perspective actually is) -- was it a… | /r/seduction | 28/01/16 07:46 AM |
| 3 | Help! I can't seem to get these unwanted RP thoughts out of my head.Look, red pill gets a lot of support out of insecure, naive, and hurt people, because they take a collection of behaviors that can happen -- the types that hurt people and the types that people worry about (like cheating) -- and formalize them as constants of the universe. If you worried about those things before or were hurt before, you'll suddenly "understand" why. You'll think it's because the constant of the universe just came into play. They won't say, "Someone might cheat on you." They'll … | /r/ExRedPill | 27/01/16 06:17 AM |
| 0 | How does not wanting to date a rape victim make someone an asshole?Talking down to people isn't going to help you date incredible women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/16 09:31 AM |
| 0 | How does not wanting to date a rape victim make someone an asshole?Nope. You could be fucking all sorts of women, they're just not bad. I'm just assuming you aren't an "idiot": By the way, you're an idiot if you're still dating girls like that. Those are your words not mine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/16 07:56 AM |
| 0 | How does not wanting to date a rape victim make someone an asshole?Apologies, it's a stand-in that stresses the fact that you are inexperienced and don't fuck bad bitches. You've already admitted as much, so I don't really need to convince anyone. Hopefully I've cleared up your confusion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/16 07:38 AM |
| 0 | How does not wanting to date a rape victim make someone an asshole?I don't really think there's any convincing you. Why are you so adamant and why do you need to impress it upon me so much? We're on Reddit having a back-and-forth. That was a really cute power play to rephrase it more than it is. By the way, you're an idiot if you're still dating girls like that. Hahahahaaha, a bunch of 10/10 that are big into partying are girls "like that". It just comes from being immature and having no real goals in life. You can pretend like you're the one eliminating the ba… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/16 07:25 AM |
| 1 | How does not wanting to date a rape victim make someone an asshole?Didn't you start a relationship with a girl who falsely accused you of abuse? You didn't spot that she was troubled. Sure, I spotted it. Dating unstable people isn't what losers on the internet tell you it is, and it's really not that big of a deal. Even though I didn't deserve a false accusation or arrest, I still understand how my behavior, in her mind, justified punishing me. I prefer dating chicks like her for right now, and things go smoother and smoother as I learn more about life. You can… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/16 07:01 AM |
| 1 | How does not wanting to date a rape victim make someone an asshole?No, you misunderstand. The original thread seemed like a thought experiment. As in, if you already knew would you start dating somebody who was a rape victim. Ok... in that situation, if you know the person, the person you know will decide whether you date them. Otherwise, you'd meet them to see who they are. I'm not following when you say "it was a thought experiment!!" Although frankly I think it's bizarre you think major trauma like that could never derail a relationship. It's not that hard t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/16 06:47 AM |
| 1 | How does not wanting to date a rape victim make someone an asshole?It's simple. The people who said yes understand just how this type of thing could be brought up in a relationship and understand there is no way it could derail a growing, new, and fun one. The people who said no have never had relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/16 08:07 PM |
| 2 | How does not wanting to date a rape victim make someone an asshole?I and many other people said that they wouldn't. One of the top responses in the thread was this, with a score of around +20: The people answering the question answered it in a way that was pretty remarkable, funny even. They answered it in the way someone who has never dated anyone ever would have -- it was a genius way to expose the virginity of a great deal of "red pillers". See, there is no context to the question, "Would you ever date someone who had this happen in their past?" Sure, if a c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/16 09:26 AM |
| 3 | I feel like I am too boring for girls my ageIf you ever wondered how long-winded you write, consider that /u/PercivalSchuttenbach said the same thing as you in one sentence. | /r/seduction | 14/01/16 09:24 AM |
| 3 | Redpillers, if men aren't interested in a woman's money how is it that Serena Williams dates high profile men? Just dumped Drake for co-founder of Reddit.She probably is fun to be around, interesting, and seductive. That last thing, being seductive, is different than being hot. It's a matter of style, both clothing & behavior, attitude, and culture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/16 08:34 AM |
| 18 | My go-to pickup lineYou're going way too deep into this shit, banana. You can say pretty much any normal thing, and if you the situation is right and you can hold a conversation, you two will have a good time chitchatting, enough to want to meet later and continue to get to know each other. Just whatever you do, don't use weird phrases like you do online: I concur with this, opening with a statement regarding physical appearance can mislead her into thinking that you are interested in sleeping with her, or that you… | /r/seduction | 29/12/15 09:30 AM |
| 24 | My go-to pickup lineit's a fucking common English phrase, stop giving weird advice. | /r/seduction | 29/12/15 09:14 AM |
| 1 | Every superhero is a white knightAnd on a less conspiracy-theory note, it's worth mentioning that the damsel in distress is a common archetype used in not just gaming and comics but books, movies, poems, and even real life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/15 07:25 PM |
| 1 | Every superhero is a white knightIf video games don't make children to become violent and murderous it can't make them be white knight/beta. That's not how this works, man. While I agree with you that OP is probably mixing up the reason with the result, you can't just declare things like this to be true. Inexperienced people fall in love faster, men and women. You get a typical guy falling in love super fast and being weird when they haven't had their first or second woman, when they don't understand just how typical sex is. Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/15 10:36 AM |
| 3 | CMV: The idea that /r/TheRedPill appeals primarily to betas, incels, and otherwise have-nots, is stupid.Only to those who interpret with an agenda. There is no agenda here. People generally don't like people with extreme theories about other people. o it's not. I don't randomly bring red pill shit to the table. If you get those guys drunk they'll say it themselves unprovoked and excitedly without ever even hearing of the subreddit. They just get their mind blown when someone puts it very well and very clearly for them. Red pill beliefs are extraordinarily common among successful men, whether they'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/15 09:26 AM |
| 3 | CMV: The idea that /r/TheRedPill appeals primarily to betas, incels, and otherwise have-nots, is stupid.Nah, red pillers find it to be a lot of fun. I had a fitness consultation with /u/GayLubeOil once and got to edit a post with him. He'll literally laugh and say shit like "Is this reaally misogynistic enough? What if I change this line to suggest that she's trashy?" There's some misogyny, but it's also largely a joke that they all get. Cool story. That doesn't change how talking like that makes you look. What are you talking about? Before I even found red pill, every frat guy or athlete that I'd… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/15 08:21 AM |
| 5 | CMV: The idea that /r/TheRedPill appeals primarily to betas, incels, and otherwise have-nots, is stupid.Many things blue pillers say to this effect does not make sense in other context. A big difference between the context of TRP and your examples is what perspective those experts are taking. They may be judging and learning from others, but they're not hating on the game itself. They don't bemoan other businessmen making deals or the fact that cards are random or other completely obviously true thing all day and night long (TRP harps on the obvious truth that sometimes some people can be assholes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/15 08:59 AM |
| 11 | The AF-BB DebatePeople like to have more fun when they're young and settle down when they're older. That includes sometimes going for temporary things just for the experience and fun of it all. That goes for men and women. "BBAF" is just weird jargon that describes this common trait in humans that no one ever said didn't exist. BBAF claims one little additional thing, that women specifically settle down and stop having sex (and then even look for sex/cheat). I personally don't know that many people who are in t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/15 07:31 AM |
| 3 | Would you consider this alpha or beta behaviuor?It's so wicked that you're getting people to reply to you. You should probably post some screen caps on Facebook for your friends and family to see!! Be proud of who you are -- mention it on a first date. You troll the internet. Good stuff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/15 11:00 AM |
| 4 | Would you consider this alpha or beta behaviuor?This question is so bad that there isn't much chance you're being serious. There's a few things to note. We don't know what they're trying to fix or the context behind the decision. The article just said they're trying to make their relationship "hotter". This is really important, because it's hard to judge what they're doing when we don't even know why they did it. I'd say that most everyone thinks that having a healthy sex life is a good thing. Your post sort of requires it not being a good th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/15 10:39 AM |
| 2 | This is what women find attractive in a man.Such a stilted way to talk to someone... all right my good sir, the exchange met my expectations. Set forth on your path. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/15 11:52 PM |
| 1 | This is what women find attractive in a man.Sexual strategy is a phenomenon found in nature. All animals do it. Peacocks grow beautiful tail feathers to attract mates. Some animals fight each other for mates, such as bighorn sheep. If this very simple term is weird jargon to you then I think you lack an understanding of the natural world and I encourage you to read about the world. I call it dating and hanging out, because I'm not studying this stuff from an animal science point of view. That's probably because I'm normal. I think it's we… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/15 11:19 PM |
| 1 | This is what women find attractive in a man.sexual strategy Please stop using weird jargon. It weirds me out. Link me one. I do know that conflict can be a tool to build attraction. In fact conflict is impossible without some sort of attraction. Every war in history is because an issue attracted people with opinions about it to different sides. If you really want one, I'll give you one. However, keep in mind you just gave me some of your personal anecdotal evidence to support what I just wrote in the very next sentence. See: I too love wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/15 10:45 PM |
| 1 | This is what women find attractive in a man.Shameless_king, you don't have to look further than abusive relationships, either emotionally or physically, to understand you're oversimplifying the situation. There's clearly more dynamics to a relationship than the three things you listed. It's not a good idea to state that list as if you just solved human nature and relationships. There are plenty of studies that show that conflict can cause attraction. That's when someone just hates someone but loves them too. They're so annoying! A little … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/15 10:17 PM |
| 1 | Are most women sexually oblivious or sexually astute?Hey man, I think this quote from Herman Melville's "Moby Dick" should shed some light! Consider the subtleness of the sea; how its most dreaded creatures glide under water, unapparent for the most part, and treacherously hidden beneath the loveliest tints of azure. Consider also the devilish brilliance and beauty of many of its most remorseless tribes, as the dainty embellished shape of many species of sharks. Consider, once more, the universal cannibalism of the sea; all whose creatures prey up… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/15 06:41 AM |
| 3 | What are your thoughts on men who don't wish to attend a sexual consent seminar?Your argument seems to be as follows: Women are raped a bunch. Women who are raped suffer a lot from it. Rapists don't go to jail. But that has nothing to do with whether education is the right way to solve the problem. The fact that crimes of opportunity exist and hurt people (e.g. theft) does not indicate a systemic problem in society. It indicates that people are evil and act even when they know they shouldn't. If 1-3 bother you, you should be an activist for more active prevention of rape (r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/15 09:24 PM |
| 1 | How to stop living in my head?You need to start being present. Look around at the world around you and recognize things in it. See something and think, "There it is. Look how it is like this or like that". In your early stages, try then thinking about how you just thought of that. Empower your perception by recognizing you have just used it. Do whatever it takes. Start looking at buildings and just noticing random things. Remember where stores are. Remember what streets construction is happening on. Be present. You live in t… | /r/seduction | 27/11/15 10:45 AM |
| 12 | What are your thoughts on men who don't wish to attend a sexual consent seminar?I really want to see if I can convey to you my point of view here. First, let me agree with you that sexual assault is wrong and a problem. It's a problem just like murder is a problem and just like theft is a problem. All of these things are terrible. But therein lies the key to my point of view -- those other things are terrible too yet we don't see the same type of rhetoric used to defeat them. What are the differences? As a society, we already hate sexual assault on women. Everyone knows not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/15 09:23 AM |
| 2 | CMV: SMV is relative and therefore generally useless as a metric"SMV" is a retarded rebranding of a word we already have in the English dictionary: "Attractiveness". So let's say we did a search for SMV and replaced it with attractiveness and look at your post that way instead. Yes, what is attractive varies. Yes, no general rule can explain 100%. The good news is no one gives a shit if it doesn't. It's sort of like how we can describe most people with "man" and "woman" without any problems even though some striking edge cases exist: Hermaphrodites, transgen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/15 09:39 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Redpill does give some decent pointersrun-of-the-mill dime a dozen | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/15 09:35 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Redpill does give some decent pointersthe cherrypicking and edginess you basically end up with a run out of the mill self-improvement ideology that are a dime and a dozen. Are you trolling? You can't mess up common idioms this many times in a row... If you did that on purpose to sound smart, it actually just sounds stilted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/15 09:14 AM |
| 3 | CMV: There is more of a "vilify men and yell rape culture" than there is a "rape culture"They never specified weed, if could have been a lot of things (it was prob weed though). You're splitting hairs here. I smoke weed, I have no problem with people doing it and fucking. You must be a terrible person that someone pretty much saying "get her high enough so she has sex with you" doesn't even sound predatory to you. It sounds like a guy wants to fuck a chick that puts out easily if she lights up a bit. She's a big girl and can choose her mates just as she likes them, and she likes the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/15 10:56 AM |
| 11 | CMV: There is more of a "vilify men and yell rape culture" than there is a "rape culture"In terms of women, it means that if a woman is not careful about what she wears, where she goes and what she does, she'll be attacked. Even in safe suburban areas, we see attack of women as inevitable if she: she walks alone at night, gets drunk at a party and passes out, walks anywhere isolated, goes home with a man and refuses sex. So... rape culture is culture where rape can happen. I guess we're also in a theft culture, fraud culture, and any other crime of opportunity culture since crime ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/15 10:35 AM |
| 5 | CMV: There is more of a "vilify men and yell rape culture" than there is a "rape culture"You just haven't dated a chick that is down to fuck and likes weed and for whatever reason can't comprehend that. You're socially repressed. We're talking about smoking weed here, not giving a chick roofies. Really, fucking any chick is just about hanging out with her in ways she and you enjoy until bonding happens enough to fuck. Getting high as fuck with weed is just what that chick likes to do to bond with dudes, it's her walk in the park. She gets comfortable, the guy feels it too, and they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/15 10:13 AM |
| 7 | CMV: There is more of a "vilify men and yell rape culture" than there is a "rape culture""You got to get her high enough, then she'll do anything with you" If he was confronted, he probably would have said it was a joke, but the fact that it is normal to say something like that freaks a lot of people out. I can totally understand why. Holy fuck you're an autistic virgin. Getting high as fuck and banging isn't rape. It just happens. Some chicks are like that, and it's who they want to be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/15 06:51 AM |
| 3 | Saw this image in r/TheBluePill. Please discuss at your leisure."TRP" is also fairly general, though it tries to concentrate to a few steady beats of a drum. Even between people who say they are TRP, you will see a wide variety of views on the same exact question. Some will say ridiculous things and others might say something more vacuously true without offense like "work on yourself". Again, there are bad people in this world as well as people with bad ideas. It happens, and I can't see the point of discussing that fact. It's not going to change much or tea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/15 07:41 AM |
| 6 | Saw this image in r/TheBluePill. Please discuss at your leisure.Not sure what there is to discuss. Feminism is a very big term that can mean almost anything, and this isn't just that typical bull where someone goes on about how everything is relative or flexible -- there are truly crazy ideas as well as normal ideas both tied to the word. It is not a clear word. As far as the picture goes, it looks to show a bunch of unpopular ideas about women combined with random things like "I don't hate men". What are we discussing? Do you want everyone to admit bad peop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/15 07:26 AM |
| 1 | Slut-shaming is regulationThe great irony is that since you are so obsessed with the theory of how to coax a woman into having sex with you, you most likely don't have to worry about coaxing a woman into having sex with you. It's a nonissue for someone unable to win one over. In fact, I believe that the biggest reason that religion was invented in the first place was to prevent Chads from hoarding all of the women in a tribe and castrating all the betas. Giving such a conscious aim to an organically evolved set of storie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/15 07:52 AM |
| 1 | Blue Pill: What are your thoughts on a woman's ability as shown below to fuck over a man's life so easily? and Red Pill: How would you avoid such a situation?Not really. You go to trial and your guilt is determined based on evidence. Beyond a shadow of a doubt is the requirement here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/15 12:21 AM |
| 0 | Blue Pill: What are your thoughts on a woman's ability as shown below to fuck over a man's life so easily? and Red Pill: How would you avoid such a situation?Any woman can accuse any man of anything and he is automatically guilty until proven innocent. The man must then prove he is innocent instead of the woman having to prove he is guilty. Try to wrap your head around this. Women are soulless succubi who will destroy any man in a heart beat with the law if she believes he is beta enough. Nope. You go through a criminal court where the standard of conviction is beyond a shadow of a doubt if it's a serious crime. I can tell you've never experienced an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/15 07:13 PM |
| -1 | Blue Pill: What are your thoughts on a woman's ability as shown below to fuck over a man's life so easily? and Red Pill: How would you avoid such a situation?Ok. And I can't be bothered if people make terrible decisions. It sucks and it shouldn't hurt them so badly in an ideal world, but this is the real world, not an ideal. Asking what anyone thinks about this situation is like asking about what we think of an old grandma getting swindled by a con man for $50k -- great, it happens. Yes, it's bad. But it never happens to most people even if they're dumb! It is even rarer if you're sharp enough to have some common sense. If you actively avoid it, it m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/15 03:56 AM |
| 1 | Blue Pill: What are your thoughts on a woman's ability as shown below to fuck over a man's life so easily? and Red Pill: How would you avoid such a situation?I'm assuming you didn't read what I wrote since I put a little bit in there just in case it did actually happen: Asking what anyone thinks about this situation is like asking about what we think of an old grandma getting swindled by a con man for $50k -- great, it happens. Yes, it's bad. But it never happens to most people even if they're dumb! It is even rarer if you're sharp enough to have some common sense. If you actively avoid it, it may not even be possible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/15 03:54 AM |
| -1 | Blue Pill: What are your thoughts on a woman's ability as shown below to fuck over a man's life so easily? and Red Pill: How would you avoid such a situation?I'm assuming you didn't read what I wrote since I put a little bit in there just in case it did actually happen: Asking what anyone thinks about this situation is like asking about what we think of an old grandma getting swindled by a con man for $50k -- great, it happens. Yes, it's bad. But it never happens to most people even if they're dumb! It is even rarer if you're sharp enough to have some common sense. If you actively avoid it, it may not even be possible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/15 03:51 AM |
| 14 | Blue Pill: What are your thoughts on a woman's ability as shown below to fuck over a man's life so easily? and Red Pill: How would you avoid such a situation?It's doubtful that story is real, and I'll tell you why. When you receive a no contact order, everyone you meet from arrest to freedom will warn you what it's about. Police officers, guards, your lawyer at the arraignment, the judge at the arraignment, other inmates, and even random people behind counters servicing papers. They'll tell you that no matter what, do not break your no contact order even if you are contacted first, even if you think you're getting back together -- no matter what. It … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/15 04:15 AM |
| 1 | question for both pills, what counts as 'asking someone out'?I'm not sure why you're expecting the definition of a commonly used phrase to evolve based on what "pill" someone is. This is like asking what counts as "running" or "swimming". When you ask someone out, you ask them to do something with you at some place and probably some specific time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/15 07:50 AM |
| 2 | TRP misconstrues "be yourself" adviceOh for fucks sake, honestly. People who choose different words than you choose are socially stilted. Pull the other one, it has got bells on. Jesus Christ. This type of thing doesn't change very often. It's just what sounds right or wrong, stiff or fluent. There's a reason why great authors are read over long periods of time -- they write well and express interesting points. A half a century later, their writing still sounds good and the points remain true. There was never a time in the last cen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/15 06:13 PM |
| 2 | TRP misconstrues "be yourself" adviceI'm not the basement dweller you think I am. I seen a bit of the world son. Let's take a small piece of evidence... to males. The fact that you say males here rather than men is more than a token demonstrating your stilted writing habits, it's an expression of how weird you are socially. I have. For years, decades actually (I'm 39). I've spent years reading all sorts of stuff, discussing it online too. I found nothing that gives as good advice about sexual strategy as RP. Most political/social t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/15 03:36 PM |
| 2 | TRP misconstrues "be yourself" adviceCool, read some real stuff about power, politics, etc. rather than reading a forum board online. Basically, things in life take hard work to be good at. A stupid forum board online is the learning equivalent in politics of a diet pill in weight loss. Put real work in if you value succeeding. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/15 02:45 AM |
| 2 | TRP misconstrues "be yourself" adviceBe yourself isn't advice to expose every corner of your personality and interests unconditionally. It's advice to be true to yourself, have self-esteem, relax, and organically approach the social situation. I'm not sure what is so hard to understand here. I'm just going to have to assume you have lived a hard life suffering from autism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/15 02:24 AM |
| 2 | TRP misconstrues "be yourself" adviceFortunately, you don't need a master's riddle to understand that you should pay attention to how you impact others and change things up when they obviously don't work. Be yourself isn't advice to expose every corner of your personality and interests unconditionally. It's advice to be true to yourself, have self-esteem, relax, and organically approach the social situation. People understand that unless they have a mental deficiency like autism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/15 07:51 AM |
| 0 | Where do you draw the line about cheating in your own relationships?Great observations. However, they have nothing to do with what I wrote or the context. I pointed out the definition of cheating above is wrong and then elaborated on the missing ingredient. This has absolutely nothing to do with whether my handful of counterexamples are honest (they obviously aren't) or if they're bad for a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/15 06:45 PM |
| -2 | Where do you draw the line about cheating in your own relationships?Apologizing for your SO's behavior in private to do damage control while still being on her side to her face, cheating. Holding information about a small worry that is momentary and under control just to make their life more blissful, cheating. Being a drug user and accidentally lapsing but not telling them, because you don't want the relationship to end and already put forth the effort to stop again, cheating. But no, cheating isn't any of these things. Cheating involves a violation on assumed … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/15 06:35 AM |
| 0 | Myth busting red pill attitude towards marriage and LTRsNo one is born with perfect social skills. Learning social skills is part of everyone's development and thus is in no way weird. Thanks for the obvious truth, bub, but I'm not sure why you're telling it as if I needed to hear it, implying I didn't already say that exact thing in this conversation. Opposite to what you are implying, in fact, I suggested trial & error as being how most normal people succeed socially, which you yourself even acknowledged when you wrote: So any approach to life that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/15 04:32 AM |
| 1 | Myth busting red pill attitude towards marriage and LTRsHumans are social creatures. Failing to develop a functioning social ability is weird. If they do happen to get some hints, they'll get them from normal people in their life (e.g. brother, friend, dad) or official sources (e.g. a book) rather than a bunch of weirdos on the internet that hate women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/15 03:50 AM |
| 1 | Myth busting red pill attitude towards marriage and LTRsNormal people experience problems and then learn from them by thinking practically about it and using common sense. Weirdos seek out a "theory". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/15 02:07 AM |
| 2 | What are common physical or emotional traits among incels?Nope. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/15 11:33 PM |
| 4 | What are common physical or emotional traits among incels?Putting considerable, observable energy into changing who you are and investing the time to navigate local politics are the opposite of demanding acceptance for who you are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/15 10:57 PM |
| 5 | What are common physical or emotional traits among incels?female-brained desire to be "loved for themselves" That's just ridiculous, atlas. Women put a lot of energy into their looks and social status... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/15 08:14 PM |
| 1 | What are common physical or emotional traits among incels?Annoying quirks. All kinds of. Sounds harmless, but some quirks can make you really unattractive. I think it's in the top 3 of "things that are holding them back". What sort of quirks could they have? Speech pattern? Or is it something like eating with their mouth open? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/15 08:12 PM |
| 3 | What are common physical or emotional traits among incels?they're fucking losers with little life experience | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/15 08:09 PM |
| 3 | Myth busting red pill attitude towards marriage and LTRsThe reason people turn to Red Pill is because it works and provides a logical model for the experiences of the modern man in dealing with women, You have to understand that the very fact of being in search of that model implies confusion about or dissatisfaction with women. Healthy men who are in normal relationships, possibly promiscuous and possibly not, do not read up on a theory like that since they already "get it". It's more than an ad hominem, it's a decent explanation of the root cause b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/15 05:39 AM |
| 3 | Myth busting red pill attitude towards marriage and LTRsI'd say the bitterness towards marriage comes from insecurity they can't get the girl they want and maintain a healthy relationship like so many others do. There's definitely a few different ways for that kind of view to crop up. What I imagine (one or more are true about a person who hates LTR): They really really don't want to give up the thrill of having a whole bunch of promiscuous sex. They experienced a bad divorce or breakup secondhand (and are probably a bit inexperienced with relationsh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/15 05:35 AM |
| -16 | The Power of SmilingWell, yippy, I think that works for everyone since it's normal social conduct. | /r/seduction | 14/10/15 08:30 AM |
| 1 | If TRP dislikes divorce rape so much, why do they glorify marrying young women with low career aspirations?First off, I'm not talking about my personal beliefs on marriage here, but your line of reasoning just doesn't make sense even if someone thought the way you described. You can suggest a system is broken while philosophically supporting the behavior that the system makes a disadvantage. An extreme, made-up example best demonstrates this. Suppose you really think reading and owning books is a good idea, but in your society, when you buy a book, there is a decent chance that you lose 15% of your w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/15 03:22 AM |
| 3 | r/Stoicism and The Red Pill: an interesting debate on another subredditTRP thinks stoicism means acting like a boring , humorless, dour, lecturing, uninteresting, no fun drag. I am in a war with the TRP IRC for making fun of them, calling them the Dour Hour of Power. I never lived with or banged a man that wasnt a hilarious laugh riot, but you cant teach boring no personality spergs who think STEM is attractive "alpha" work (lol) how to have fun extro personalities, so better to teach them how not to talk so no one notices You've got to learn to write better. Readi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/15 07:57 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The Spartacus prequel is a story about how an Alpha steals a woman from a Betaok, done. Reread my answer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/15 05:42 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The Spartacus prequel is a story about how an Alpha steals a woman from a Betawhen you speak about what's true, you speak about everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/15 08:40 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The Spartacus prequel is a story about how an Alpha steals a woman from a BetaWrong. No one ever said being weak is good and strong is bad. Your rhetoric is just embarrassing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/15 06:40 AM |
| 3 | CMV: The Spartacus prequel is a story about how an Alpha steals a woman from a Betathey are pushing the message that in that world strength is rewarded and weakness is punished. Because of the popularity of the show, I have to believe on some level many people agree with that view. Wait, who is arguing that weakness is rewarded and strength is punished? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/15 07:26 AM |
| 2 | CMV: The Spartacus prequel is a story about how an Alpha steals a woman from a BetaI'm not even sure what your main point is... are you trying to pretend like it's revolutionary to admit that cheating can happen and that old relationships can grow dull? Or are you trying to pretend like it's revolutionary to admit that a woman doesn't want to be with a hugely negative, stress-inducing complainer? All of these things seem like basic information that won't change how you treat anyone since it's so common sense. If you're treating these human traits as arcane information that onl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/15 07:23 AM |
| 4 | On the internet and in society, who has lower status, male "incels" or female "sluts"?Thanks for the weird interpretation of what I wrote. I'll make sure to use it to stay as far away from you as possible for the rest of my life. But yeah, I completely agree with you. I'm morally superior to everyone, because I acknowledge it's absurd to ask who is "higher" based on one narrow description of two people. I'm still not even sure what the question wants to know, what the hell does it mean to be higher than someone? We're not in a caste system, and different people will like differen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/15 07:09 AM |
| 2 | On the internet and in society, who has lower status, male "incels" or female "sluts"?The question is a bit retarded, because you've told us one dimension about each person and asked who is "lower". Ok, a chick who has a bunch of sex versus a guy who has no sex because he sucks at talking to women. Uhh... I'd guess it depends on what they're competing in and who is judging and also everything else about the people in this competition that isn't mentioned. Is this virgin on the same level as the Oregon shooter? Well, then basically every normal person everywhere is higher than he … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/15 06:43 AM |
| 2 | My outlook on dating women is purely for sex. I have been very successful with it. I'm starting to think it might be wrong. I'd like your opinion.The question is not for us to answer. You're asking if it's a problem, but that depends on your goals and what you enjoy and want. For starters, I will say you should run a small thought experiment. What you wanted when you were 7 might have been a few action figures and toys. By 17, things probably changed a big step. I'd say by 27, things will have changed another. Just appreciate the fact that by 37, you may take another step. Try to read the perspectives of older people, what they valued in … | /r/seduction | 08/10/15 06:49 AM |
| 1 | Seddit, I really need your helpUsually people want to avoid commitment after something bad happened to them in a relationship (or if they know the chick they are with is not so good). But from your story, you've only been with her roughly, you think she is good, and nothing bad has happened in your relationship. Where exactly are you getting the drive to avoid commitment? | /r/seduction | 05/10/15 09:07 AM |
| 2 | Wasn't sure what to do with this AMOGYou seem to have low self-esteem... People who are comfortable in their own skin and successful to some capacity have better things to do than sacrifice themselves over a petty argument. You treat idiots with disdain, not aggression. Imagine you're a successful business man walking on the street and a hobo curses at you. Are you honestly going to stop to teach him a lesson? Are you going to beat him down, physically or with words? No, you just keep walking, because who the fuck cares what a hobo… | /r/seduction | 02/10/15 02:39 AM |
| 1 | Is prostitution(and striptease) the result of a masculine society or is it simply individuals exploiting the situation?yes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/15 05:18 AM |
| 5 | Wasn't sure what to do with this AMOGYeah, man, the assault charge will totally be worth it since he stopped you from talking to some chick you don't know that you said hi to for a second. | /r/seduction | 01/10/15 05:08 AM |
| -7 | Equality non sense. How do i deal with it ?You really do crave membership in something, don't you? You know, a group of buddies or a hobby with some mates might do you better than finding your camaraderie among strangers on the internet suffering from dysfunctional relationships. I can just see your excitement, maybe with a little adrenaline flowing even, as you assert I need to be tossed out. This is your house and your subreddit, good job big boy. But no, I'm not purple pill, red pill, or blue pill. I'm a normal person who doesn't use … | /r/MarriedRedPill | 27/09/15 11:25 PM |
| 0 | Equality non sense. How do i deal with it ?Lol OK Yeah, I stand by that quote -- a functioning relationship has two people in it that are both pretty happy. As I mentioned in other parts of my post, if both people randomly (without demand for something in return and for no good reason) do things just for the other, irrespective of equality, that is the best way to reach that point. If one person is taking and the other giving, you should stop giving and start finding someone who is on your team the same way you are on their team. Where d… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 27/09/15 11:21 PM |
| -1 | Equality non sense. How do i deal with it ?While main topics need to be on topic for a subreddit, subsequent discussion, much like real conversations, can take different turns, and that's fine if the context permits it and the conversation does not break the rules of the subreddit. He brought in a context that made an explanation for my past statements appropriate. There is no reason to be so oversensitive just because I disagree with something you (probably) agree with. Your first course of action is to censor or expel the person you do… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 27/09/15 11:08 PM |
| -4 | Equality non sense. How do i deal with it ?You talk about doing things to make yourself happy like that is a bad thing. OP is responsible for his own happiness. He should be doing things to make himself happy. She can come along if she wishes to but he does not need to make sure "the happiness gotten at the end should be roughly the same". Weird, I never said that. Go ahead and quote it since you conveniently didn't. OP was a terrible man, of course she is a terrible partner right now. This has nothing to do with my post being garbage bu… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 27/09/15 09:21 PM |
| -4 | Equality non sense. How do i deal with it ?They CERTAINLY are not happy if you "join her team." Instead, build up your OWN team and invite your wife to join. You're not applying my analogy correctly. Perhaps you missed that the entire theme was a lack of fairness. In that context, a team similarly has people servicing different goals for the good of the team despite inequity. I didn't recommend being a weak-willed pussy to your wife. I recommended doing your fair share of sacrifices to make your partner happy. It's ok, for example, to sp… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 27/09/15 09:18 PM |
| -4 | Equality non sense. How do i deal with it ?Red pill suffers from a lot of different problems and it's hard to summarize succinctly and completely. But if I had to choose the main ones I see glaringly: Most of the good things TRP says are common sense wrapped up in weird lingo phrased from an angle that is borderline misogynist by virtue of the angle it takes. As an example, if you ran a campaign warning men not to shoot people, there is an automatic implication (not in formal logic but in how people read a message) that women don't shoot… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 27/09/15 09:09 PM |
| 2 | Equality non sense. How do i deal with it ?Relationships aren't about equality. They're about people doing things for each other, because they want to see the other person happy. What each person offers and wants can be quite different and quite nonequal, but the happiness gotten at the end should be roughly the same. You're in trouble if you feel like putting a smile on your partner's face, but she never seems to feel like doing the same for you. Phrasing everything as a transaction or trade is disgusting, because then the point of doin… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 27/09/15 09:45 AM |
| 1 | Why you should make your intentions clear (x-post from TIFU)Nice, keep in contact with her and slam her cheeks when she's drunk | /r/seduction | 27/09/15 09:07 AM |
| 1 | What make a woman unattractive? What turns you off? Do you set standards for the women you date/have sex with?if she's inexperienced socially, sort of the woman equal to a loser nerd, it's a huge turn off even if she's good looking. She'll basically come off as bland. She'll wear clothes that is bland, she'll be unable to talk well, she'll be unable to move her body seductively, she'll be unable to turn me on. | /r/seduction | 26/09/15 10:35 AM |
| 2 | Why should I take the red pill seriously when there is no advice there on how to actually build a lifestyle as an adult male that gets you sex with attractive women?The fact that TRP is pushing men to "cold approach" like PUAs is dangerous because it can ruin a man's reputation in society and possibly even get him arrested in certain cases with the way harassment laws are these days. Thanks for the good laugh you oversensitive freak. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/15 07:28 AM |
| 1 | Can any man on earth hook up with a woman?This has to be one of the most useless questions possible. I'm not sure what your point is even if we answered yes or answered no. A lot of statements are made as absolutes and simply ignore the 0.5% that break the rule. It would be tiresome, for example, to note pedantically the existence of hermaphrodites every time we mentioned men and women. Whatever philosophy you take on women and men probably presupposes you are within the bands of the 99.5% majority. You can make a statement like, "Every… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/15 07:10 AM |
| 1 | CMV: A lot of guys actually like party girls/sluts/crazy bitchesThe attractive trait is charm and charisma. It's separate from "partying" and only connected with it since partying can develop it. About 100% of non-virgins prefer a non-virgin since virgins are terrible in the bedroom and tend to have no seductive skill yet. If anyone tells you they actively are in search of a virgin, they are a virgin themselves guaranteed [which is different from searching for someone who didn't fuck a tremendous amount of men, not a bad thing for a long term relationship]. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/15 08:20 AM |
| 1 | CMV: A lot of guys actually like party girls/sluts/crazy bitchesAnd no it's not always a case of a guy liking that kind of girl despite her personality just because she's hot, some guys actually prefer that type of personality on a girl. Not all guys like the innocent, prudish virgin and many guys will consider such a girl boring. In my experience guys who prefer this type of girl (the crazy party slut) tend to be emotionally stunted in some way or afraid of intimacy. I see a similar phenomenon with girls displaying these personality traits. I think some peo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/15 07:51 AM |
| 1 | 48 Laws of Power?I call them the 48 laws of common sense. Pretty much everyone does everything in them without thinking too hard about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/15 10:45 PM |
| 1 | 48 Laws of Power?We don't need you to rewrite what you said disingenuously. It's right up there: I call them the 48 laws of common sense. Pretty much everyone does everything in them without thinking too hard about it. That's what you said, and that's what I heard. It's not too close to what you're saying now. Your first viewpoint trivialized the content in the book by saying it's self-evident. Now, you're saying the book isn't a guide to doing crazy manipulative shit and that normal people use the content regul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/15 09:49 PM |
| 1 | 48 Laws of Power?Talking to you is like when a small child next to a broken vase tells everyone he had nothing to do with it. He's saying one thing, but how he's saying it and the situation at hand just tell us so much more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/15 08:20 PM |
| 1 | 48 Laws of Power?It's a great piece of writing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/15 08:18 PM |
| 1 | Have your core values changed?Most RP people used to have very, very low self-esteem, so their behavior didn't have much to do with A, B, or C. They could've believed anything internally but were "bullied" by society into situations that were not healthy or fulfilling to them. Whatever was under the hood changed how they felt about their own misfortune, maybe they felt anger and rage if they actually cared about their well-being, or maybe they rationalized it was only right to help other people. But that's not really importa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/15 07:46 PM |
| 2 | 48 Laws of Power?it has some flaws, like taking contradictory positions. It seems like the book, its purpose, and the subject it's about just flew right over your head. Politics isn't a math problem, and treating it like that will make you come off as autistic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/15 07:34 PM |
| 1 | 48 Laws of Power?It's well written and will make you use them more for your benefit and health though. As a parallel, you can could put down nutrition and assert we all do it to an extent, it's common sense even, just eat a variety of natural, healthy foods and stay away from sugars. But that doesn't make the effort of understanding nutrition better and bringing thought to something you winged before a bad idea. The kind of person who trivializes hard things, and political maneuvering is something hard for sure,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/15 07:33 PM |
| 1 | A general question/update this is a tricky situation?Part 2: I randomly met and opened the second hottest girl in this class. Similar situation as above, I didn't really do well at all. Your first problem is you're writing anonymous journal entries to a bunch of virgins online. | /r/seduction | 20/09/15 08:38 AM |
| 6 | “Fake It Til You Make It”? - Final Thoughts On Pickup Artist Julien Blanc & RSDThe fake it till you make it idea is just rhetoric to get antisocial people full of fear due to inexperience to go out and experience so that they can learn. It really has never been about lying about your beliefs, feelings, etc. and its goal is to bolster confidence and to open someone up to being comfortable in his own skin. At the same time, only a social nimrod would actually not put a little attention into filtering himself to a certain degree based on context. A lot of times, fighting a ba… | /r/ExRedPill | 17/09/15 03:59 AM |
| 0 | I found two interesting Instagram accounts. One features half naked alphas drinking coffee and has 270,000+ subscribers, the other shows random alphas on trains reading books and has 670,000+ subscribers. Subscribers are overwhelmingly female."Sexy" is too mainstream a word, too simple. Let's call it "sexual market value." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/15 08:51 AM |
| -1 | CMV: The NiceGuy(TM) is a Caricature, a Cartoon Villain Created as a Boogeyman. He Does Not Exist.You either had parents go through a horrible divorce, were rejected by women to a point of not having relationships with them, or had a serious relationship with one where she hurt you badly. GL | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/15 09:49 PM |
| -1 | CMV: The NiceGuy(TM) is a Caricature, a Cartoon Villain Created as a Boogeyman. He Does Not Exist.You've been through something hard and unusual. Hope you work through it in a different way eventually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/15 09:44 PM |
| -1 | CMV: The NiceGuy(TM) is a Caricature, a Cartoon Villain Created as a Boogeyman. He Does Not Exist.That was your problem to begin with. You didn't present anything as an opinion, but an irrefutable dogma in which everything you dictate is right and everyone else is wrong, and that includes smearing and attacking "Nice Guys" for not accepting your opinion. I will respect your opinion once you respect other opinions. You can have whatever opinion you want, but "nice guys" are social nimrods. Also, it's common to state your opinion in declarative sentences. You have a lot of social fabric missin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/15 09:22 PM |
| -1 | CMV: The NiceGuy(TM) is a Caricature, a Cartoon Villain Created as a Boogeyman. He Does Not Exist.The fact that people are different and find different things easy and hard, prefer different things, etc. seems lost on you. That combined with your unwillingness to pay attention and just be a tiny bit nice or respective of those opinions probably hurt your ability to be happy and socialize normally. You'll also find that being extremely blunt can sometimes backfire and cause people to hate you whereas softly implying things, leaving a bit of room, can remove the risk of extreme overreactions. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/15 09:07 PM |
| -1 | CMV: The NiceGuy(TM) is a Caricature, a Cartoon Villain Created as a Boogeyman. He Does Not Exist.Why does it have to be mean shit, beside the fact women enjoy behaving like mean shits? You could simply state that you aren't attracted to someone in that way, which is actually what is usually recommended for situations like this, since it's better to be upfront then let someone keep trying and wasting his time and only reject him later if he doesn't get it. I honestly don't know what to tell you if you cannot empathize with how difficult it is to reject someone, especially a friend, for both … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/15 09:00 PM |
| -1 | CMV: The NiceGuy(TM) is a Caricature, a Cartoon Villain Created as a Boogeyman. He Does Not Exist.I'm asking you, again - what's so hard for women to open their stupid mouths and tell someone they're not into him if it's such a huge problem? This question itself shows you are socially awkward for not "getting it" here. People don't like to body slam someone with mean shit or rejection in general, especially if you're they're friend. This isn't a problem with women, this is a problem of trying to avoid awkward and mean things said to your friends and hoping they pick up on the queues that mos… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/15 08:49 PM |
| 0 | CMV: The NiceGuy(TM) is a Caricature, a Cartoon Villain Created as a Boogeyman. He Does Not Exist.Do you think this is working? You are wasting your time. I hope it does, for your sake. You're right -- I'm playing the emotional support role for someone who obviously needs it. Cya. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/15 07:51 PM |
| 0 | CMV: The NiceGuy(TM) is a Caricature, a Cartoon Villain Created as a Boogeyman. He Does Not Exist.Great, go tell that to the feminists whenever they whine about shaming and gender norms and social norms and expectations of females. And to the SJW's too. And to all the women who think society needs to change for them. You have a chip on your shoulder, and it is making this unlike a conversation. Most of the things you're telling me (e.g. "SJWs" or the "counterexample" about a creepy guy harassing a woman being rude, both of which I never mentioned) are completely unrelated to my posts. You're… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/15 07:35 PM |
| 0 | CMV: The NiceGuy(TM) is a Caricature, a Cartoon Villain Created as a Boogeyman. He Does Not Exist.Glad we understand that calling someone a "Nice Guy" is just a way to shame other people for not adhering to cultural norms. I agree with you. Yeah... that's a vacuous truth. It's social judgment, so when people do it, they're socially judging you. I'm still not seeing the problem here. People have preferences, they aggregate over time in a population, and we cal that culture. Start paying more attention to other people instead of yourself and learn to be a functioning member of society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/15 07:30 PM |
| 0 | CMV: The NiceGuy(TM) is a Caricature, a Cartoon Villain Created as a Boogeyman. He Does Not Exist.I believe "Nice Guys" aren't doing anything wrong, the only issue is that they are probably low SMV men and women are repulsed by that. If she says "Sorry, I'm unattracted to you" and he goes "blargghgh you owe me sex, have sex with me NOW cue Arnold Schwarznegger voice", then he's a rude person and she can be upset. If he doesn't, then neither of them did anything wrong. Is it unfair that "Nice Girls" are attractive to at least some men while "Nice Guys" aren't? Yes it is. Nice guys = socially … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/15 07:22 PM |
| -1 | CMV: The NiceGuy(TM) is a Caricature, a Cartoon Villain Created as a Boogeyman. He Does Not Exist.This conversation isn't going to go anywhere. You believe society is flawed to a pretty extreme point and I don't. That sums it up. Social conventions exist, get over it. As an afterthought, your intensely stilted viewpoint (e.g. demanding an explanation of what a "normal dude" is when it's pretty self-evident from the context) probably promotes your social failures. In the context, "normal dude" is contrast to "fat autistic woman". I hope that clears it up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/15 06:50 PM |
| 0 | CMV: The NiceGuy(TM) is a Caricature, a Cartoon Villain Created as a Boogeyman. He Does Not Exist.You're playing a game here that's not genuine. We're not talking about obese autistic women, we're talking about standard dudes who, due to a lack of socialization (blame the father?), never talked to different people with different traits (e.g. whether they have a penis or a vagina for starters). Life experience tends to do that -- put things into perspective. You're basically stating a vacuous truth, that it's natural for someone with extreme absences in social contact with the opposite sex to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/15 06:29 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The NiceGuy(TM) is a Caricature, a Cartoon Villain Created as a Boogeyman. He Does Not Exist.unrequited love fucks with your mind This is the problem with a "nice guy" -- they fall "in love" when they haven't even kissed the chick yet, held her, fucked her. It's kind of funny how ironic it is, they say they're truly in love and 100% genuine but they're sort of the most shallow out there. They'll fall in love with almost anyone hot that gives them attention, in fact they'll fall in love with the first person to do it who's hot. It doesn't matter if she's a horrible person, it doesn't mat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/15 08:51 AM |
| 0 | If you saw this thread except with the genders flipped, would you call this misogynistic?I'd say the main difference between the two types of rhetoric is one asserts that all women are like that while this one, in a doubtful questioning tone, asks if some men are like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/15 06:16 AM |
| 2 | Anyone else in here who joined the red pill sub but then eventually stopped following it? What are your reasons?If you read about borderline & histrionic, it shares a lot with narcissistic personality disorder and psychopathy. There's probably a lot of link between them all in underlying cause and those causes just manifest slightly differently in men and women for whatever reason (biological or societal). I've only read about these disorders at an encyclopedic level and am not knowledgeable about them at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/15 09:09 PM |
| 2 | Anyone else in here who joined the red pill sub but then eventually stopped following it? What are your reasons?Yeah, I grew up in a very stable environment, no problems at all at home or school. So I just couldn't imagine someone like my ex exists, trying to ruin my life when I gave her a lot of time, energy, affection, and resources. I tried hard to work through her rough patches too. Even now, I can't comprehend her behavior, and when a person can't comprehend behavior like that, he calls it a mental problem. I think she truly has one, not sure which though. It's the only way to assign an answer to the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/15 08:58 PM |
| 2 | Anyone else in here who joined the red pill sub but then eventually stopped following it? What are your reasons?Plenty of people blame society, 'unrealistic beauty standards', fat shaming, or generally lament that people are too shallow and fail to see the 'good person' they are underneath the blubber and stale sweat. I've experienced very few people in person who take on that warped view. I'd wager it's a vocal minority that we can safely ignore. Being on the internet, it's just part of popularly reported news. I'd compare it to reporting the head of the KKK making a new racist statement, doesn't really … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/15 08:40 PM |
| 3 | Anyone else in here who joined the red pill sub but then eventually stopped following it? What are your reasons?That's interesting about your friend -- my last GF was a lot like that. She ended up being abusive, so I had to end it with her. I'm not sure what type of guys she likes since I only know about her dating me, but she was eerily fake. The entire 4 months I dated her, she introduced me to one friend, and it seemed to be her only friend. It seemed unusual since my gf was beautiful and enjoyed doing shit. The only other time she spent with anyone else was with her parents. I think she had a problem … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/15 08:34 PM |
| 7 | Anyone else in here who joined the red pill sub but then eventually stopped following it? What are your reasons?There's a difference between people being fat or smelly and them wondering why they can't get a 10/10 partner. I'd hope that the majority of these people aren't angry or confused why they aren't dating the best, and I bet they generally understand they need to put energy into their looks if they want to change who they date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/15 07:54 AM |
| 12 | Anyone else in here who joined the red pill sub but then eventually stopped following it? What are your reasons?As a guy who is past college age, I can tell you from my own experience that getting the better looking college girls while not actually being in their circles is difficult. I know anyone can make up a story about the 30 yr old Lawyer who fucks good looking sorority sisters but I have found that to be erotica at its finest. I will just say that there are fake classy women who fuck rich ass men, even when they're young, and stay away from poor college students even if they happen to be in college… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/15 01:45 AM |
| 3 | I lost my virginity a week ago, but it still hasn't changed who I amSex with basically a complete stranger is a lot like masturbation. You'll find sex to mean more if you fuck the same person on the regular and develop a connection with her. | /r/seduction | 05/09/15 10:32 PM |
| 1 | If you're a blue piller, or sympathetic to that view, could you state an affirmative belief you have about gender relations, sex, mate selection?I won't be adjusting what I write. You can read over my post history and decide whether it fits into the content of the subreddit and then take appropriate action. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/15 02:29 AM |
| 1 | If you're a blue piller, or sympathetic to that view, could you state an affirmative belief you have about gender relations, sex, mate selection?Have you ever tried reading your posts out loud? Or have your beloved partner of 6 years do it, so you can realize just how weird you write. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/15 07:51 AM |
| 1 | If you're a blue piller, or sympathetic to that view, could you state an affirmative belief you have about gender relations, sex, mate selection?So I'm guessing by your 'you don't have much experience' that you've run out of steam? That's your best response to my argument, is it? Not sure what you mean here. Don't make me laugh petal. I'm not the one who needs an internet guide to tell me how to interact with othet human beings lol. Not sure what you mean here. I've sustained a 6 year, stupidly happy relationship, and we wouldn't have gotten this far if either of us had been as dull as you are. I think it's pretty clear which of us has m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/15 07:48 AM |
| 1 | If you're a blue piller, or sympathetic to that view, could you state an affirmative belief you have about gender relations, sex, mate selection?So, you'd like to spend large amounts of non-sexual time with this woman then? I'd have to see what she's like when I'm with her. Since I'm not a nerd on the internet theorizing in pure ideals, I can understand that it's stressful to speak in front of tens of thousands of people in a competition. Statistics say you're the one who is weird - most people, men included, gravtitate towards people on the same intellectual level as them, for both romantic and platonic relationships. The statistic is e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/15 03:02 AM |
| 1 | If you're a blue piller, or sympathetic to that view, could you state an affirmative belief you have about gender relations, sex, mate selection?ut given that I met most of my (current main) friends at debate/book club/quiz society/evening class, none of my friends are dim and most of them are driven. Ewww, those chicks are gross. You're a nerd. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/15 02:37 AM |
| 1 | If you're a blue piller, or sympathetic to that view, could you state an affirmative belief you have about gender relations, sex, mate selection?Im in a similar boat, I like men who are equally as educated and in a similar field than me. Again, it sounds like you want a way to avoid saying, "I'm shallow." That sounds utterly horrible, and I've personally only heard you two women on the internet say disgusting things like this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/15 02:33 AM |
| 1 | If you're a blue piller, or sympathetic to that view, could you state an affirmative belief you have about gender relations, sex, mate selection?I struggle to believe this. Are you saying you would be happy to spend your time with someone who doesn't interest you intellectually? I'm not even sure what that means. I don't discuss philosophy or geopolitical scandals most of the time, and it isn't a necessity to do that if you want to catch my interest. That's not a dimension you value in interpersonal relationships? Depends on how that relationship integrates into my life. It's valuable in the right context. Home isn't it. but the case for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/15 02:31 AM |
| 1 | If you're a blue piller, or sympathetic to that view, could you state an affirmative belief you have about gender relations, sex, mate selection?You say that, but when push comes to shove, would you be able to have a conversation with a girl who has a seriously substandard IQ, would she like what you like, could you take her out to places, would she raise your kids the way you want the kid to? You're putting the cart before the horse. You seem like you want someone that can talk with you, like the same things you do, take out to places, and raise your kids. Not sure what IQ has to do with many of these things unless you enjoy talking abo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/15 02:25 AM |
| 2 | If you're a blue piller, or sympathetic to that view, could you state an affirmative belief you have about gender relations, sex, mate selection?I look for men on my level. That means, someone who has similar beliefs, a similar intellectual capacity, a similar drive/ambition, and at the same time, someone who calls me on my shit. That honestly sounds horrible. Partners make you feel a certain way, and that should be the main ingredient in determining whether a relationship can happen. I've never disqualified a friend from my group due to his IQ, so I'm not sure why I'd disqualify a woman from being my girlfriend. If she's a good person a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/15 08:28 AM |
| 1 | If you're a blue piller, or sympathetic to that view, could you state an affirmative belief you have about gender relations, sex, mate selection?Men have emotions. The full range of them too. Men want to feel loved and cared for. They want to be able to crawl into bed with a woman and let out their worries. Not all men, but the majority of them. While I enjoy feeling loved, I don't enjoy "letting out [my] worries". But it depends a bit on what you mean by that. I like to get things fixed, and that can mean telling someone about a problem. To understand this stuff, you have to first understand there are different situations when someone l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/15 08:24 AM |
| 0 | Teenage girl convinces bf to kill himself. TRP's response: AWALTAs I stated, the phrase "Not All Women Are Like That" predates the phrase "All Women Are Like That" -- AWALT is the red pill response to women claiming NAWALT whenever a woman doing something horrible is brought up. AWALT means men should be cautious around all strangers, including women; NAWALT means you should only be wary around the "bad" women, however you're supposed to determine that. Sounds like good advice to me -- avoid the bad ones. I'm not sure what you're saying here... Insulting som… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/15 06:52 AM |
| 1 | CMV: BluePill Traits Have Nothing to Do With Being AttactiveThey say men can't listen -- Girls girls girls says the sign, third times the charm -- but it looks like you've just decided to tell me about your embarrassment when I already told you I'm not here to be your psychiatrist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/15 03:35 AM |
| 1 | CMV: BluePill Traits Have Nothing to Do With Being AttactiveDidn't read -- I'm not here to be your psychiatrist. Go have your boyfriend lick up your tears, so you can give him a BJ for being a good boy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/15 01:35 AM |
| 1 | Jackets and Ties Required / Dress CodesHoly god, if you took what I wrote as anything but satire, you are a moron. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/15 01:34 AM |
| 1 | Teenage girl convinces bf to kill himself. TRP's response: AWALTAll right, Ted Kaczynski. Just don't leverage your paranoia into blowing up any professors from your log cabin. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/15 01:34 AM |
| 1 | CMV: BluePill Traits Have Nothing to Do With Being AttactiveYou've never seen a group of women blackball a guy from dating anyone in their friend circle after said guy reveals himself to be a jerk? To be fair, a lack of openness and sensitivity isn't really a major ingredient of defining a jerk. Nor is the absence of "nice guy" since it generally means someone who slaves over someone who won't give him the time of day. He does it because he's in love (inappropriately given the lack of mutual attraction or shared experiences), and he generally has low sel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/15 08:17 AM |
| 0 | CMV: BluePill Traits Have Nothing to Do With Being AttactiveI'm not sure what sort of relationship you two have, but the women I date generally can't do much nice stuff for me in general since there isn't much I need done. As a simple example, it would be nice for her to surprise me by cleaning my apartment, but I already have a maid do that. The point I'm making is that the only way she can be nice to me and go above and beyond is to give me a couple of BJs and sex. It turns me on to turn her on, and her going all out for no reason really makes me want … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/15 08:08 AM |
| 1 | Jackets and Ties Required / Dress CodesHey guys. I just realized I prefer strongly to ride my bike over taking my grandma's Renegade 2015 Jeep. After a bit of introspection, I think it has to do with my inner desire to protect nature and its animals. Does that make me a vegan? Will there ever be a day when the necktie finally fades away? Such a useless garment; it serves no practical function whatsoever. Good question. I often wonder why we have jewelry, makeup, sexy underwear (as opposed to pragmatic underwear of understandable pric… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/15 06:04 AM |
| 2 | Teenage girl convinces bf to kill himself. TRP's response: AWALTAs has been explained innumerable times, AWALT is nothing more than a cautionary heuristic and is not a literal contention. The problem with this idea is that you have to be cautionary of any stranger since you don't know them. What makes AWALT so hilariously ridiculous is it implies that only women use men rather than people using people. The best part is it comes off as a 30 year old discovering what we teach 1st graders -- Don't talk to strangers! Just how fucking low is your social IQ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/15 05:58 AM |
| 2 | Are there people who, no matter how much they desire it, will not find satisfying, loving romantic relationships?Some people ruin the relationships they're in even if they desire them. They have personality disorders for whatever reason, and these people can't really get that type of relationship since they ruin them when they get them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/15 07:16 AM |
| 1 | Is creep-shaming the equivalent of slut-shaming?If you've hit on a woman, you know she gives on a pretty clear vibe within the first 10 to 60 seconds. You become a creep if you overstay your "Hey I'm just popping in to feel your vibe for a second" by not detecting her preference based on how she's acting. That's true whether you're hot or ugly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/15 02:25 AM |
| 1 | Why are men so blue pilled on money and status?I'm going to redirect you to the OP, which is asking what type of men give random people $800. Thank you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 10:54 PM |
| 0 | Is creep-shaming the equivalent of slut-shaming?Waaah, now I need random men on the internet to validate me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 10:14 PM |
| 1 | Why are men so blue pilled on money and status?Not my experience at all. There's an unusually high number of tech nerd types with really attractive wives/girlfriends in my office. Women find a man with a career more attractive... I don't think much of anyone disagrees with that. You seem to be saying it's not true at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 10:11 PM |
| -1 | Is creep-shaming the equivalent of slut-shaming?Waaaah normal people go out and slam cheeks. I "study" creep shaming online. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 09:51 PM |
| -1 | Is creep-shaming the equivalent of slut-shaming?Boohoo I don't agree with society because I'm not #1 in it. I'm going to cry about it under the pretense of analysis and equity, which then implies everyone in society is wrong and needs to change rather than me just accepting my weaknesses or committing to change. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 09:35 PM |
| 1 | Why are men so blue pilled on money and status?I'm not sure how what you said integrates into the context of the OP + my comment. But thanks for the useless observations! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 08:57 PM |
| 1 | Is creep-shaming the equivalent of slut-shaming?Yup, that has to do with how he dresses etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 08:55 PM |
| 1 | Is creep-shaming the equivalent of slut-shaming?your | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 08:54 PM |
| -1 | Is creep-shaming the equivalent of slut-shaming?Read just after that point, bub: If you weren't suffering from severely low social IQ -- perhaps you have Aspergers -- you would understand the same label can be put on people with different weight given the situation. As a simple example, consider that a kiss in a 2 week long exclusive relationship is called cheating just like a fuck in a 5 year long marriage is called cheating | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 08:23 PM |
| -1 | Is creep-shaming the equivalent of slut-shaming?I understand "social stuff" just fine, you worthless twat. Unless you have Asperger's syndrome, you shouldn't be asking questions like this: By whose standards? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 07:10 PM |
| 1 | Is creep-shaming the equivalent of slut-shaming?Awkward is what women describe as creepy when the awkwardness is aimed at them and aimed at getting into their panties. I'll also add that often times, these social buffoons come off as forcefully sexual, because they aren't aware when to be sexual or what to say. They just show up like an empty vessel and blank, nervous eyes. People can read that as, "All he wants as sex." because they have the following properties: They don't seem to want anything else (or else they'd not be a blank vessel, th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 07:08 PM |
| -1 | Is creep-shaming the equivalent of slut-shaming?I'm starting to see the type of person you are -- stiff and without understanding of social stuff. You're showing your cards, that you have barely interacted with much of anyone. Why do you feel qualified to create stiff theories about social interaction if you have no experience with it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 07:00 PM |
| -1 | Is creep-shaming the equivalent of slut-shaming?If he's at a social place that handles 30 year old people and is dressed for the scene, he'll do just fine, assuming he knows how to do it. If he's an outsider to the scene, dressed weird or acting weird, he will be immediately seen as weird/creepy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 06:53 PM |
| 0 | Is creep-shaming the equivalent of slut-shaming?The middle aged, balding, overweight guy with bad teeth walking up to a woman in a bar and saying "Hi there, my name is Steve, are you having a good time tonight?" is creepy. In this example, it's not because he's ugly, it's because he looks middle-aged. Yes, our society finds it creepy for middle-aged men to be at a bar looking to fuck 20 year old women, regardless of how sexy they are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 06:41 PM |
| -1 | Is creep-shaming the equivalent of slut-shaming?Even if what you're saying is true, that the "creep" is inept and has low social skill, how does that justify labeling him as a "creep"? Look, man, you're just going down the path of expecting everyone and society itself to be your mom and dad. They're not, and as a 6 year old has already been told by now, life isn't fair. If someone smells like shit, we call them smelly and stay away from them. If someone puts a bad smell in your nose by their behavior in a particular way, we call it creepy and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 06:40 PM |
| 1 | Is creep-shaming the equivalent of slut-shaming?Duh, this is redundant, we are talking about non-creepers that are unattractive. They're not labeled creepy in the vast majority of cases. There will be a time or two when just about anyone will be labeled creepy due to a perfect storm of conditions. You did when you implied that actions alone earn the creepy label...they do not Yeah, they do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 06:38 PM |
| 2 | Is creep-shaming the equivalent of slut-shaming?Great, saying "Well damn, he was ugly" is guesswork too. Not much more to this discussion since you are forcing us to use only facts about some vaguely described, apocryphal story from the internet. granted it doesn't really help... Yes, it does. This kind of thinking you are using is loser-style thought. You blame our circumstance rather than accepting it and beating it. I have seen people say they're too dumb to do well in school, too ugly to talk to women, too lazy to do anything. They end up… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 06:36 PM |
| 1 | Is creep-shaming the equivalent of slut-shaming?You don't seem to be "getting it". Yes, stumbling over words isn't the exact cause and isn't the thing in isolation causing it. What's causing it is these people just acting in a way that is socially unacceptable. There are too many ways for me to even be aware of it, but it includes things like: What you are saying. How you are saying it. The expression on your face and other body language as you say it. How long it takes you to say it. The environment around you as you say it, which includes w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 06:34 PM |
| 0 | Is creep-shaming the equivalent of slut-shaming?But you seem to be suggesting that looks are not correlated with personality. I stopped reading there, because I didn't suggest that at all. Hot people socialize more than ugly people, so they're better at it. That is irrelevant, though. Creepers are labeled as creeps. End of story. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 10:13 AM |
| -1 | Is creep-shaming the equivalent of slut-shaming?This isn't true at all. These unattractive men stumble on themselves and have no idea what they're doing socially. They are jarring and creepy. They are untrained and need to learn how to socialize better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 10:12 AM |
| 1 | Is creep-shaming the equivalent of slut-shaming?Low social skill = breaking social norms without proven value. Same thing, different name. Nope. It's not the same thing. A woman can find someone not attractive (either physically or even culturally) but not think of him as creepy. She just won't want to fuck him or won't want to hang out with him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 10:11 AM |
| 1 | Is creep-shaming the equivalent of slut-shaming?Here are the more likely explanations: The creep was dressed in a weird way. Culture matters a lot when being judged culturally. The hot guy, being hot, was probably dressed in a very acceptable and good way. The creep, being socially inept, probably looked at her for too long and/or with a different, weird expression on his face. The hot guy, being much more used to socializing, probably looked less at her (but still "stared") and with a more comforting expression. But like I said, the supporte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 10:09 AM |
| 1 | Is creep-shaming the equivalent of slut-shaming?An unattractive guy who's fun and outgoing can still fail because there are plenty of attractive guys who are fun and outgoing, too. You're going off on a tangent. It's a vacuous truth that hot guys will do better with women that ugly guys. No one every rejected that. We're talking about the "creepy" myth, that ugly guys are deemed creepy just for their looks. They're not. Creepy people are deemed creepy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 04:28 AM |
| -2 | Is creep-shaming the equivalent of slut-shaming?Overall creepy men = unattractive men. Not sure what you mean by unattractive, but yes, you will not attract women by being creepy. No, you aren't creepy just because you are not hot. You have it opposite... You're trying to say being ugly will make you come off as creepy. Instead, you can be creepy and accepted due to being hot. But if you're creepy and not hot, then people will immediately cut you off for being creepy since you aren't valuable in any conceivable way right from the beginning. F… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 04:26 AM |
| 2 | Is creep-shaming the equivalent of slut-shaming?Men are trained from birth to defer to women and give them what they want at all times. It takes conscious effort to overcome this training Dude, post that on FB. I double-dog dare you. You won't, because it sounds psychotic. that includes when a woman says a man is a creep, 99/100 he's just had the audacity to exist while not being perfect and them agreeing with her I've basically never seen this happen the way you describe it. It's usually some untrained dog of a human being talking to strange… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 03:19 AM |
| 3 | Is creep-shaming the equivalent of slut-shaming?Thinking in black and white is not a healthy thing to do. A creep is weird and creepy from his empty bag of experiences and lack of practice. Men find him weird too. There is no demand for perfection. It's just about him coming off as jarring, given the context and the culture surrounding it. The only way around it is not to have an unhealthy attitude (like the one you showed off just now), quash low self-esteem, and keep trying. The experience will turn into skill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 03:05 AM |
| 5 | Why are men so blue pilled on money and status?A lot of normal people talk about behavior they just can't understand since they're normal. The richer you start becoming, the less and less impact spending money has on you. It's an obvious truth, but people don't internalize it. They also don't understand just how true it is. Let's say someone makes just $13,000/month after taxes. And let's say he is "used" by a woman to buy her dinner and a few drinks, call it $200. Let's say that happens 30 times a month. 30 times 200 = $6,000. He still has … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 02:52 AM |
| 5 | Is creep-shaming the equivalent of slut-shaming?Creep-shaming is about shaming men for approaching women whom the women do not view that man as attractive enough to approach them I don't agree at all. Creep shaming is shaming people with low social skill when they mess up and come off as creepy. The way you put it pretty much blames the shamer, it's a bit delusional. Blame the creep for his ineptitude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 02:13 AM |
| 1 | Am I part of a Silent Majority?Pretty much act girls the same you would to your friends. That means being a jerk. A lot of pretty women treat their male friends ways that those men would never tolerate out of another man. Having self-respect, confidence, and an understanding that there are plenty of fish in the sea free that man from hopelessly following someone he loves for basically no reason. When he does that, it will translate into him not doing kind, good, and helpful things for someone that is not there for him in any … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/15 03:59 AM |
| 6 | should women find their betabux while they are still young?You're answering the question awfully literally... you don't have to be TRP to understand what they're claiming. It only sometimes has to do with literal money. "beta bux" is a long-term kind of guy that is generally not sexually attractive aka "fun" (so caring to kids, ready for marriage, often has money, etc.) "alpha fucks" are hot and/or fun guys that want to fuck you but don't want commitment. His question, when translated away from the unnecessary TRP jargon, looks to be asking whether it's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/15 08:48 AM |
| 10 | CMV: There is no alternative to r/theredpill or PUA.I'm not on one side or the other, but it looks like /u/whisper said that a feminist will call something misogynistic for being the thing that entices her to have sex (willingly...). We'll call it the apple or the snake rather than Eve feeling hunger. He didn't say men don't have control over their sex, and he didn't imply they should have the ability to force sex on others. He didn't say men are chained to say yes or no, that they must seek sex or not seek sex, or that they are different from wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/15 08:21 AM |
| 2 | CMV: There is no alternative to r/theredpill or PUA.In my relationships sometimes I feel like I'm the one in the right and will argue my position, sometimes I realize she is right and give ground to her. Sometimes we both think we are right and then we have to compromise. This is what most normal, successful relationships are about. I'm just going to point out you're talking about maintaining a relationship rather than getting one here, which is a different thing. First impressions are everything, and once you get a woman liking you, you can do s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/15 08:14 AM |
| 1 | Is the existence of TRP justified by the mainstream's denial of women's DV and emotional abuse towards men? If not, what alternatives do we have?Interesting perspective, thanks for sharing as well. So you see this as the result of political correctness and the nanny state gone mad, really? The laws surrounding domestic assault and civil orders of protection are widespread known to be generally unfair. There are plenty of articles on the topic from lawyers who participate in the system. It's a known issue. Just like any law that is a bit too rough, it got this extreme out of a fresh wound to society, a recent news event etc. It should ton… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/15 09:24 AM |
| 0 | A win for mens rights. YMY shot down in californiathere for Dude, can you at least read just general literature for a bit before you try to become a political scholar? You don't even know what therefore is yet. Seriously, just start reading stuff. Maybe some history books, a bit of fiction. I'm not sure what you need, but it's not internet blogs and "purple pill debate". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/15 08:20 AM |
| 2 | Is the existence of TRP justified by the mainstream's denial of women's DV and emotional abuse towards men? If not, what alternatives do we have?I think you got it backward. We don't need to be more sensitive to males being abused. We need to be less sensitive to women being abused. Let me explain what I mean. The word abuse has a lot of different meanings. It can mean someone who is verbally an asshole, unpredictable and no good for no one. It can also mean someone who beats his partner. We can agree both are bad for the partner, but we also can agree one just means the relationship should end while the other might imply it can't easily… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/15 08:02 AM |
| 1 | Does The Red Pill set up sock puppet accounts of 'women 's help conform its theory?So, you recognise SMV and hypergamy, but think this is more a 'hot person' thing, not just a 'hot woman'. The first step in your path to becoming a healthy adult is to abandon the cult language you picked up on the internet. I don't recognize any of that shit, because if you ever said those words in a woman in person, they'd feel creeped out and leave. I recognize the fact that people are greedy and sometimes do things they know they shouldn't. I recognize the fact that a relationship can get ol… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 10:35 PM |
| 2 | Does The Red Pill set up sock puppet accounts of 'women 's help conform its theory?Dude, read the stuff again. In fact, "pick up" started with a grouping of general guidelines that result in more attractive behavior. They then went backward and created "logic" to explain them. Mystery and those guys were genius. They were selling emotional shit in a way with apparent logical grounding. But that logical grounding probably doesn't exist, and even if it did, it doesn't matter. Do you sit and think about how it is that we have lungs when you breathe? No? Then you don't need to sit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 10:12 PM |
| 1 | Does The Red Pill set up sock puppet accounts of 'women 's help conform its theory?Nope. You're autistic for questioning or misunderstanding things that are clear given the context. Examples would be when you didn't understand what I meant by "authority" and here, where you have interpreted what I wrote in some stiff, weird way. I gave that analogy in a clear, logical fashion. I was making a strong point. I guess you missed it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 09:30 PM |
| 1 | Does The Red Pill set up sock puppet accounts of 'women 's help conform its theory?What about the rest of TRP? Just like any 'movement', it's hard to write about it, because there will be extremists and reasonable people part of it. TRP itself has some good impact by encouraging men to work on themselves by using the simple truth that results matter. The funny thing is that that advice is a vacuous truth -- who thought otherwise? Yes, Mr. TRP, looking good, being socially fun, and having a bunch of money are good things that will excite women. Is that revolutionary information… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 07:36 PM |
| 1 | Does The Red Pill set up sock puppet accounts of 'women 's help conform its theory?you mean you don't believe you know much about the mechanisms and politics behind contemporary inter-gender dynamics either? Does context not exist in your mind? I was referring to the pseudo scientific angle you were using. No, I'm not an expert on evolutionary psychology. As for socializing, I'm not a scientific expert on that either. In fact, it's part of socializing not to be, because most of it is emotional rather than logical. The logical stuff is a bunch of vacuous truths -- don't slap th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 07:17 PM |
| 1 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUALet the circular and nonsensical arguments begin! There's just no connection here, man. You're being super political. I'm drunk. Cya. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 09:16 AM |
| 4 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUADo you take each and every Reddit comment in a vacuum? You're just saying vacuous truths like here: Dating =/= committed relationship. But that has nothing to do with my post given the context of the OP. I'm not sure why you thought I ever said dating is the same thing as a committed relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 04:39 AM |
| 2 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUAPeople do things for themselves all the time. Men cheat on women, lead them on, etc. as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 02:53 AM |
| 1 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUAOr, he'll feel like he won a prize by winning her heart all to himself. Nope, doesn't happen. It sounds like you're speaking from firsthand experience, which is making me draw into question whether you have sex at all. Separate the wheat from the chaff homie. I run a similar strategy by having my calendar and whiteboard with chicks' names and dates prominently displayed in my kitchen. She sees these and she knows she's not exclusive. We're talking about how men take things, not women. We're also… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 02:29 AM |
| 7 | Does The Red Pill set up sock puppet accounts of 'women 's help conform its theory?Oh god, you're right dude. The feminists just control everything. We've transitioned from /r/im14andthisisdeep to /r/conspiracy If we agree that feminists control most of the media, then of course red pill ideas will be censored. Given that basically 100% of the powerful people in this world are men, and that it's newsworthy when a woman does it, how can you even have this conspiracy theory? You're delusional, bro. Get some perspective. Define authority figure? I'm now seriously concerned you mi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 02:21 AM |
| 5 | Does The Red Pill set up sock puppet accounts of 'women 's help conform its theory?I understand all that but if you follow the science then it makes sense for women t engage in more covert manipulative strategies to make up for their lack of physical stature. It's a pre-rational survival imperative. The best part of TRP etc. is that every post of theirs belongs on /r/im14andthisisdeep Could you imagine saying what you just typed to me to a room full of people? I'm laughing out loud after reading what you wrote. You honestly think you've uncovered some complete understanding of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 02:18 AM |
| 4 | Does The Red Pill set up sock puppet accounts of 'women 's help conform its theory?Most women are incredible in some way or other Not at all. Most people are lackluster. Party chicks can be really, really unremarkable and valueless. My last gf didn't work, had no hobbies, was mean, and spent all day wanting to drink/smoke weed. She was hot but that was about it. I had to end it with her when I found out how bad she was for me. but all women are hypergamous and manipulative. Not at all. Most people enjoy sex and things, though. When you say things like this, you pretend you don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 02:04 AM |
| 3 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUAThe issue with her list is she doesn't integrate the moving parts together. E.g. she includes putting out after a few dates + demanding exclusivity in the list as well as dating other men in the list. It's not clear if any of these points become inactive at certain points. So yes, if you're: Dating Opening up and being vulnerable, implying some deep connection Demanding exclusivity Eventually putting out or have put out Then your relationship is emotionally an exclusive relationship. You're bein… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 01:58 AM |
| 2 | Does The Red Pill set up sock puppet accounts of 'women 's help conform its theory?There are a lot of songs about the concept of finding that women hurt men and they now have trust issues. Or also songs where we just start at the stage of the trust issues. Bitches ain' shit (Dre) Superman by Eminem chronicles the same attitude as Dre but begins with the innocent viewpoint first. What these bitches want by DMX. You can add to the list with a reply if you want. Like any other rough approximation, the mentality is only as useful as it is. Even plenty of these rappers are married … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 01:50 AM |
| 8 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUASome men do commit to women though, even before having sex. Not marriage but commitment. Of course plenty do, and what I said is not only still true it's true because of that. Look, the equation has these components: Chick demanding commitment through defined exclusivity. Chick demanding commitment through time/resources Chick not committing to you in terms of time or exclusivity... she is spending her time dating other men. What the fuck? No one who respects himself or herself would stay in a r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 01:31 AM |
| 5 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUANo guy does that. They just dump her unless they're pathetic. And if he's pathetic, she wouldn't want to date him in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 12:23 AM |
| 2 | Why does TRP assume most women who are (reasonably?) attractive have had lots of casual sex? Is this proof of egregious male solipsism?Perhaps I'm strange, but if someone (regardless of gender) told me that he/she lacked any sort of romantic intimacy until recently, my first impulse wouldn't be to say to him or her that it doesn't matter (...to me), regardless of how close we were. You are weird. You already admitted it is painful to remember and seems intertwined with your low self-esteem. Even if you think theoretically you shouldn't show your soft side to a woman, it was meant to make you in your core feel closer to her sinc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/15 06:37 AM |
| 0 | Why does TRP assume most women who are (reasonably?) attractive have had lots of casual sex? Is this proof of egregious male solipsism?FUCK HER FOR THINKING YOU CARE WHAT SHE THINKS. WHERE DOES SHE GET THE NERVE, BEING YOUR GF AND ALL? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/15 05:45 AM |
| 2 | Why does TRP assume most women who are (reasonably?) attractive have had lots of casual sex? Is this proof of egregious male solipsism?God, I hope I never get a woman who thinks in terms of us. That's so fucking SOLIPSISTIC! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/15 05:37 AM |
| 0 | Why does TRP assume most women who are (reasonably?) attractive have had lots of casual sex? Is this proof of egregious male solipsism?"Female solipsism" is just a TRP-concept that describes that particular behavior. The phrase you're looking for is "narcissistic personality disorder". Again, there is no reason to reinvent the wheel, especially when it comes to language. You're just embarrassing yourself. The difference between narcissism and solipsism (TRP interpretation) is that the narcissist usually doesn't really care, while the other can't relate. One of the common traits in narcissistic personality disorder is lack of em… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/15 01:54 AM |
| 0 | Why does TRP assume most women who are (reasonably?) attractive have had lots of casual sex? Is this proof of egregious male solipsism?Solipsism is a very particular philosophical belief and isn't implied in anything you wrote. You're just describing narcissism. There is no need to invent new words to describe things that the medical profession of psychology already have characterized. It's a bit funny that you wrote these bullets like you're uncovering a new topic unbeknownst to the world at large. Even a watered down source like Wikipedia on narcissism includes basically every single trait you listed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/15 08:50 AM |
| 12 | TRP fantasylandPersonally I think any person who mentions my appearance at work is behaving inappropriately and unprofessionally. I don't really care about the theory you're hating on, but this just sounds insane to me. Commenting on looks is standard friendly behavior between men, between women, from a woman to a man, and from a man to a woman. And if you both start friendly and feel it out to be more, that's fine too. If someone misreads you and attempts something innocuous like asking you out you don't like… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 06:19 AM |
| 1 | Is Marriage worth it for successful men?I'll just add that I'm not part of the men's right movements much at all. I routinely tell them their theories are overuse of atypical happenings, a bad girlfriend or even parents that had conflict. About as far as this experience has impacted me, I just don't want to give a woman my love again and prefer to womanize at least in the interim. I'll open up eventually, I'm sure. The men's right "movement" is incendiary. They take what good messages they might have and mix it with vitriolic extremis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/15 08:25 PM |
| 1 | Is Marriage worth it for successful men?I don't know if you remember Chris Brown beating the shit out of Rihanna all those years ago but a large part of the internet wanted to know what Rihanna had done to instigate such a beating and that she bore A LOT of the responsibility for the injuries she sustained. You're pretending this is a sex issue. People want to make rational sense of anything. My ex gf, after I broke up with her, attacked me. She destroyed me glasses and I took sensible maneuvers to stop her from wailing at my face -- … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/15 06:07 PM |
| 1 | Why does TRP assume most women who are (reasonably?) attractive have had lots of casual sex? Is this proof of egregious male solipsism?my own experiences are true of everyone else as well I'm not sure what it means for an experience to be true of someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/15 07:26 AM |
| 1 | Why does TRP assume most women who are (reasonably?) attractive have had lots of casual sex? Is this proof of egregious male solipsism?Ok. How exactly does solipsism enter into anyone's theory about men and women? It's a philosophical position that most people don't have at all. Do they just mean narcissistic? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/15 07:05 AM |
| 1 | Why does TRP assume most women who are (reasonably?) attractive have had lots of casual sex? Is this proof of egregious male solipsism?Is this proof of egregious male solipsism? What does that even mean? It seems like you're misusing words on accident, because solipsism just doesn't make sense there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/15 06:53 AM |
| 1 | Is Marriage worth it for successful men?You don't have to be religious (or an extremist) to appreciate "taking one for the team" with the team being your family and your kids. Plenty of people, in fact, stay together for the sole purpose of their kids. It used to be in poor taste to divorce for both men and women. While that can hurt people in plenty of ways, it can also help family units stay together, fix problems, and succeed with their kids. It also can help by making the commitment a more serious decision with more vetting prior … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/15 04:02 AM |
| 2 | Discussion: why is being nice to your man considered old fashioned?Most people I respect a lot, know personally, and are powerful don't talk shit about others at all. They'll generally speak with actions at most. They'll bring it up if it has actual impact, but they won't just bring it up willynilly. For example, let's say my buddy Jimmy backstabs me. Rather than talking about it with all my friends, I'll probably just stop hanging out with Jimmy. If they ask why, I probably won't tell them all the details and say something a little political. We're just not ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/15 01:45 AM |
| 2 | Discussion: why is being nice to your man considered old fashioned?Gossip isn't talking about people or forming a stance on how reputable they are. Gossip is when generally unverified facts are dispensed as truth. You can talk shit about someone and it isn't gossip if the facts are true or you are dealing with your own firsthand account. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/15 01:34 AM |
| 2 | [Case Study] Do you think AF/BB is wrong?That's not an issue. People are not entitled to work well in a society. They are only entitled to the pursuit of happiness, the attempt to work well in it. A simple example is someone who has an interest in some sort of art. He is entitled to make his art and try to make a living with his passion. Society, however, doesn't owe it to him to afford his lifestyle if his merits don't gain appreciation by people enough to pay him for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/15 01:31 AM |
| 3 | [Case Study] Do you think AF/BB is wrong?Men and women both cheat. Cheating is easier if you've had 50 partners. "beta bux" stories with losers dating party sluts who cheat on them is not a tendency of women... it's a tendency of a loser... dating... yeah a party slut. I'm not sure how this is even complicated. TRP are just a bunch of conspiracy nut jobs. Yes, a slut who is mildly attrato an unfit dude with a bit of money will grow bored of the relationship and fuck someone else with a good enough risk to be conscious of it. Solutions … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/15 06:09 AM |
| 7 | Discussion: why is being nice to your man considered old fashioned?Men LOVE gossip. Go to any office. Listen. Men are gossiping about co-workers. Yeah, if you're dealing with bitchy, weak men. All of the men I know who are powerful remain silent about petty shit. And I've met some really powerful men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/15 05:51 AM |
| 0 | Women Call Men Insecure/Jealous/Etc Over Count Yet Encourage Each Other to Follow Their Own Feelings in Every Relationship DiscussionThe AWALT idea seems to be bc TRP is obsessed with dating women who club and party, IMO. So they create this whole theory about women who club, party, and fuck as a lifestyle that includes the fact that these women fuck a lot of men, etc. But they don't say that it's a theory about slutty women, they say it's a theory about all women. Specifically, they focus a lot of energy about these kinds of party animals leaving the party world to marry losers with $, never to tell them they fucked a new gu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/15 04:33 AM |
| 1 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...If your definition of the alpha/beta dichotomy made sense, then how does it explain why would the wife of a successful business man ever opt to fuck a plummer? It's a pretty generic situation, but there are plenty of reasons. The chick may just be compulsive and disloyal. You can enjoy steak and still want some lobster every now and then. If you're impulsive and don't give a shit about ethics, you might take a bight of both if you think you'll get away with it. We have to remember that shitty pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/15 12:32 AM |
| 0 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...EMOTIONAL HUMANS SHARE THINGS THAT STRESS THEM OUT WITH OTHER HUMANS THAT CARE ABOUT THEM | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/15 05:34 AM |
| 0 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...It's the appropriate response. It doesn't matter how unique it is. You seem to misunderstand common English in a way that autistic people do. There isn't much I can do other than shrug and move on. You just don't 'get it'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/15 04:12 AM |
| 0 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...Autistic people tend to fail to understand things that people just get. I'm not sure how you can't see the difference between a bunch of people getting together to brand already known concepts with weird metaphors and descriptions versus just using the worldwide accepted words for things that everyone knows. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/15 02:36 AM |
| -1 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...There is a difference between using words specific to a hobby or knowledge group of humans and making up words to replace words that already exist to describe those things, because you're in a cult. I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to understand. For example, if I know the name of obscure cities, because I visited them, I'm not using jargon. Those are just the names of some cities. If I walk around saying "SMV" or "cock carousel", I'm a freak of nature who needs to talk to real people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/15 02:32 AM |
| -1 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...I mean, what are you even saying? Would you prefer her not to want you to be home more as you make your promotion? Would you prefer her to want you to be poor? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/15 02:22 AM |
| -1 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...Even someone who's only been on reddit for a few months and is still better than the rest of us knows what one of these is. Common ideas are what define a community. I read about her in the NYT. Thanks, man. A few examples of shorthand, lingo, acronyms, and specific terminology from a cursory glance at the sub: Other than DIY, most of these words are things that are known to any adult... that's like saying a sports subreddit is using jargon by saying "football" and "score a point". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/15 02:16 AM |
| -1 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...("what's in the safe", "broke both of his arms," "Chairman Pao," etc.) Jesus, I don't know what any of that is except for the fact that Pao was part of upper-level ownership and management of Reddit. Get your life together, friend. Point me to a non-default sub that doesn't use lingo, acronyms, shorthand, or some set of terminology that isn't immediately obvious to an outsider. Ok. /r/malelivingspace They're just normal dudes talking about how to decorate their apartment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/15 01:39 AM |
| -1 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...Reddit users don't all create weird lingo. The amount of lingo made up goes up in direct proportion to how many losers are in the subreddit. Anything to do with picking up women, video games, etc. are easy examples, though it happens everywhere throughout Reddit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/15 01:00 AM |
| -2 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...referring to broad, complicated ideas | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/15 12:28 AM |
| -1 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...Yeah, man, "beta" vs "alpha" is a complicated topic only known to TRP. I'm pretty sure even middle schoolers understand that distinction and the words too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/15 12:12 AM |
| 0 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...It's common for people who experience bad things to overuse that experience. Being a mature adult means actively trying not to do it. It's only human to do it nearer to the travesty, but you can't let it suffocate you. A person who is robbed at knife point will probably fear that corner, that neighborhood, and perhaps even the culture expressed by the robber. A woman raped by a man might see all men as evil and terrible for a bit (or forever). A man in an emotionally abusive relationship might p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/15 11:14 PM |
| 1 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...believe that no woman is trustworthy unless you provide her the situation where she has zero desire to behave in any way other than the way you prefer. Lol, I had to stop reading right there. It's just too golden. Cya man. GL. By the way, that's just psychotic. I am going out of bounds to assume you either were really hurt by someone or have no experience at all. There's just no way you would think this way if you actually hung out with people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/15 11:03 PM |
| 1 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...Your fallacy is assuming that I wasn't out at a party last night and you know the intricate details of my personal life. Also Jesus I thought I could be condescending. LOL I've dated like, 3 times, once was with a girl when I was 15 and it was the worst 3 days of my life, another time when I was 16 and she became a fat lesbian, and I've just had a good relationship about a year ago which ended due to a mixture of cultural differences and my own insecurities coughredpilledcough getting in the way… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/15 11:01 PM |
| 0 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...You're madly delusional if you don't understand that your total lack of social experience disqualifies you from even having this debate. It's like someone who knows zero math asking Einstein to go into depth and prove that his view of physics "makes sense". He then offers an alternate explanation that makes no sense. The problem here of course is that there is way too much experience in need of conveyance from Einstein before his opponent could possibly understand him, and even if Einstein took … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/15 10:33 PM |
| 0 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...Can you summarize my point and point out specifically what you disagree with? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/15 10:28 PM |
| 0 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...Yup, I'm trolling, because I'm not going to read 20 paragraphs you wrote in a night of sweat when you could've been out talking to some drunk women, having a good time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/15 08:24 PM |
| 1 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...I've dated like, 3 times, once was with a girl when I was 15 and it was the worst 3 days of my life, another time when I was 16 and she beams a fat lesbian, and I've just had a good relationship which ended due to a mixture of cultural differences and my own insecurities coughredpilledcough getting in the way. I'm not going to read those posts. You just admitted you have no social experience. Go outside to meet normal people and gain some social aptitude. You're a fucking weirdo. That's the root… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/15 08:20 PM |
| 0 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...I'm going to wager you either have no dating experience or you dated women well out of your league, which means they obviously were using you for convenience and as a pitstop. Most guys, regardless of quality, look to date hot ass women. They never seek out and date those paler chicks with bland style, low social skills (just like he has himself), etc. If only they sought out people of equal worth, they wouldn't be cheated on or dumped. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/15 08:07 PM |
| -1 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...You just said people tend to do this. Tendency means that it's the norm. Not the outlier for the paranoid. Sure, plenty of people would leave their current relationship to have one with a sexy billionaire who treats people right. Your paranoia comes from actually believing these dominant forces are actively fucking your wife. They have better things to do like women who are higher class and more attractive than your wife. Chad Thundercock is that he the supreme AF Hahaha, more cult language. I c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/15 08:05 PM |
| 0 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...Again you framing womens DV as innocent and mens as something else entirely , this is your internalizing of hateful feminist rhetoric . You love the straw man fallacy. I am making a clear point, not describing every single instance of female-initiated DV. I'm just done with this. You can have the internet win, it's not important to me to convince an antisocial nutjob of something most people just understand. Hopefully the aliens aren't watching you as well! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/15 07:58 PM |
| 1 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...You don't understand what hypergamy is. It can cause cheating, but it's really about women seeking seemingly contradictory qualities in men. Like what? I've seen and heard the jokes, but since I don't have autism, I 'get it'. For example, they want a confident man who isn't arrogant. Yeah, if you have autism, you might scratch your head at that, but we all know exactly what that means. There is a difference between these two things: going by the beat of your own drum, getting shit done, being de… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/15 07:53 PM |
| -2 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...Nah, it captures nothing really. Its usual meaning was "I have low self-esteem" vs "I don't have low self-esteem". The fact that people might very rarely use it to mean these other things just adds to the confusion people face. The new terminology seeks to confuse initiates into the cult to make the information present in it seem arcane and special. TRP wouldn't have such a following if its main tenet was to have self-esteem and to stop letting some mean women walk all over you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/15 07:51 PM |
| 0 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...Nope. It has to solely do with self-esteem and your ability to lead and socialize successfully. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/15 07:49 PM |
| -1 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...Oh god! I hope my wife of 20 years doesn't run into James Bond, who for whatever reason is making her feel like he'll stay with her. The real problem with TRP is it's an overreaction, a hive nest of conspiracy theorist nutjobs types. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/15 07:48 PM |
| 0 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...HAHAHAHAHA I JUST CAN'T STOP LAUGHING. Yes, people tend to dump their partners when someone amazing comes along. Thanks for the revelation, Einstein. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/15 07:39 PM |
| 1 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...but to some extent no woman is so invited in you that she'll accept you no matter how low your SMV drops. That's what I'm not getting. All people are like that. If my woman grows fat as a plum or turns rotten in mood, see ya later. I'm not here to lift someone through life or be a psychiatrist. Those previous statement of course enter into some reasonable level of debate based on how long we've dated, how much we love each other, how bad and consistent the problems are, and how much she is willi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/15 07:34 PM |
| 0 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...TRP says that those things exist because most women are willing to date men who they aren't truly attracted to. If you were dating someone out of just loneliness or a need for financial/emotional support don't you think those theories make a lot of sense? Men and women are attracted to different things. Money and power can cause actual sexual attraction from a woman. It's not her fault if you are a weak-willed pussy with a disgusting body on top of it and if those initial urges from money and po… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/15 07:32 PM |
| 0 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...I didn't mean sensitive in an emotional sense, I meant it in a system input/output sense. A small input can cause a needlessly large output, an unfair output. So that just goes to show you've sized my argument up a little too quickly since you misinterpreted a base piece of it. In fact, since the entire context of everything I said centered around how someone shouldn't go to jail for a light, isolated shove -- regardless of whether a man or woman did it -- it implies you didn't even read what I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/15 07:13 PM |
| 0 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...You are framing womens assaults on men as harmless slaps , women commit severe DV , at very slightly lower rates , higher rates or equal rates depending on which study you look at . I didn't say that. The reason you don't know that is that feminism has been deliberately misleading the public for decades . You sound like a conspiracy nutjob. Men report being injured 40 % of the time , while the strongest predictor of a woman being injured is her own violence and the man defending themselves . 40%… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/15 07:53 AM |
| 1 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...Also the fact that men are more likely to be victims of assault , including domestic assault . The reason you missed that is feminist propaganda which frames family violence as generally male to female , when its overwhelmingly female to male and child . The real problem with assault in our society is that it's oversensitive. You can be arrested for pushing someone and then face criminal charges. Same goes to slapping someone on the arm or other harmless forms of physical argument. And I mean ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/15 07:37 AM |
| 0 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...Feminism is far too general of a term to criticize. You'll have to lock it down. But you're right when it comes to some groups of activists, though I'm not sure how it's relevant to this topic. Men and women are different, so they'll have groupings of issues they'll face with different regularity. As a simple example, women have to fear violence, physical dominance, rape, etc. more than men do. That comes primarily from their bodies not being as strong. Currently in our society, on the other han… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/15 07:13 AM |
| 0 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...There are all sorts of words you could choose, and you could choose more appropriate words based on the context. Leader/follower Masculine/wimpy Fulfilled/repressed Socialite/loser Mentally healthy/unhealthy (mostly high or low self-esteem) To be honest, most of the "alpha" vs "beta" distinctions can be summed up as "I have self-respect" or "I don't have self-respect". A simple example would be idolizing a woman who doesn't like you back and is "leading you on". Someone who respects themselves w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/15 06:54 AM |
| 0 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...Just an attempt to help you: I used to be like you, clinging to formal logic inappropriately. It turns out appealing to authority is, on a practical level, how progress happens. There isn't enough time to verify everything. Most things don't have a formal study to size them up (even when they're simple enough to size up statistically). Others are wildly complex and require human intuition to understand at any useful level. Consider using statistics on what music sounds good versus just listening… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/15 04:12 AM |
| 0 | If women can't accurately tell you what they find attractive, what is TRP's position men telling women what they like?I don't think I did... quote? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/15 03:21 AM |
| -2 | If women can't accurately tell you what they find attractive, what is TRP's position men telling women what they like?You're obsessing over the weight. Do a google search. Reddit users aren't always overweight. They're disgusting antisocial losers. And that's just the state of mind necessary to actively believe in TRP ideas to their fullest extent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/15 03:14 AM |
| 1 | If women can't accurately tell you what they find attractive, what is TRP's position men telling women what they like?Hint: People on TRP are just like that! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/15 02:43 AM |
| 4 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...I'm not sure what your main point is here or how it relates to my post. It comes off as rambles, slightly autistic even. Quoting so you can't edit it: I've read it. You don't seem to comprehend. I don't give a shit about what anybody thinks (unless it is obvious misunderstandings, those can be terrible in a society where we all have at least some effect on others' well being). That is entirely useless in any path through life, unless you need validation constantly to get by. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/15 02:06 AM |
| 1 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...Really? REALLY? Almost ALL of the advice is how to be "sexy" to women. It just turns out that it's all how to be a better and more successful man. You don't seem to read TRP. Look up AWALT, cock carousel, and hypergamy. They literally theorize women by their nature cheat for no good reason and are all gold diggers. Not all women are gold diggers. All women (and men) like money though. Every community has their own lingo. A lot of Reddit is full of disgusting losers who strive to enter a group (c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/15 01:57 AM |
| 0 | If women can't accurately tell you what they find attractive, what is TRP's position men telling women what they like?There is a large amount of people who are losers on Reddit. Just google search "reddit meetup" (nsfw). Do you actually give a shit what any of these people think about how to find the man of your dreams? It's not a 100% rule type thing, but the majority come off as socially inexperienced losers, so a popularity vote from any one Reddit will get you almost nothing of value when it comes to a social question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/15 01:27 AM |
| 17 | How to Have a Perfect First DateSecond, it is impractical to be footing the bill every time, even if you are the son of an oil magnate. Wow, not really. If you make good money, you can easily afford dates without it impacting you. | /r/seduction | 26/07/15 01:00 AM |
| 3 | I'm not seeing how TRP is as horrible as the feminists say...The main problem with TRP is that it dresses up easily sex-neutral advice as advice only for men. My favorite example is how they keep trumpeting that women are hypergamous as if men do not cheat too. God, here's the newsflash: Men and women both cheat, and they'll do it with sexy and powerful people. Great, that's not news. It's not a revelation either. The second problem with the subreddit is it forces odd vocabulary (cultlike) in order to explain, again, already known concepts/ideas in the En… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/15 12:44 AM |
| 1 | Domestic violence is an alpha habitOk, so let's assume a relationship has a leader and a follower (not necessarily linked to sex but often is). It's not a leadership quality to grow angry enough at a follower to hit him. It's not a leadership quality to grow angry at followers at all unless those followers directly impact your leadership's ability to thrive. The fact is in a romantic relationship, the leader loses nothing by moving on to the next follower. The follower, in a sense, is accepted and happy to be led. If it gets to a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/15 08:23 PM |
| 1 | What does it mean that women should be led by men ?There is no "should" for women to be lead. A follower woman should be led to be happy. A leader one should find a follower man to lead. A follower type, woman or man, should be led just about the same way. Just general decision making, plans to action, getting shit done, finding solutions rather than growing emotional and dramatic, financially, emotionally (having someone listen to their problems -- followers need to complain to feel better and then need to have complained to a leader that loves… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/15 04:16 PM |
| 3 | What does it mean that women should be led by men ?There are two types of people roughly, leaders and followers. Many men in fact fall into the followers group themselves. A leader-type is comfortable riding solo to an event for example and just meets new people there. How many men or women do you know who would do that? Most people want at least one friend to come along or they'd just cancel the entire plan. It's some small number of people who are actually desirable leaders, maybe 10% I'd say from the hip. As for the component that sex plays: … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/15 08:10 AM |
| 1 | Why do girls ignore texts?I was being sincere. | /r/seduction | 19/07/15 04:15 AM |
| 1 | How do you stop being a "hopeless romantic"?You still shouldn't fall in love, because it's a social overreaction. The same way you go, "What the hell is wrong with that dude" when he throws a fit in a bar, getting violent, women go, "what the hell is wrong with that dude" when he falls madly in love without having even kissed her on the lips. Intimacy or ignorance breed love. Healthy people use the former and weird people use the latter. They're so ignorant about the entire process that they fall madly in love for no real reason. | /r/seduction | 18/07/15 08:06 PM |
| 0 | Why do girls ignore texts?Now I'm being judged? For, what you call, a social dynamic based on what you think is happening that is entirely subjective and biased to what YOU think? Control that ego please. So based on your logic I'm the one with low self esteem for pointing out that things can be different from what YOU think and STILL be okay? There is something very FaNi here. Again control that ego of yours. You're shaming me for having confidence. Refer to the post you're replying to. I'm not the one copying and pasti… | /r/seduction | 18/07/15 05:06 PM |
| -3 | Why do girls ignore texts?Not at all. This is a corner of social dynamics I pay attention to, and what I wrote is what my understanding of those dynamics boil down to -- low self-esteem. Related behaviors are: Impractically linked to a demand for formal science/proofs. Inappropriate use of fallacies. Fear of ever appearing wrong. Fear of making any statement without "official" acceptance/proof. Note how impractical this is since most things in life have not been studied formally. Defending disadvantaged people that aren'… | /r/seduction | 18/07/15 08:31 AM |
| 31 | How do you stop being a "hopeless romantic"?Just stop being a fucking loser. You have no reason to love a person you don't know. Love is a value judgment that another person deserves your allegiance, protection, help, advice, etc. By your criterion, beauty, a slut or prostitute deserves all of that. Fuck off with that shallow shit. Basic bitches are meant to be fucked and nothing else. They aren't a life companion. If you meet a beautiful woman and find she is more than her surface, you can fall in love. But until then, if she barely seem… | /r/seduction | 18/07/15 07:56 AM |
| -11 | Why do girls ignore texts?Careful. You're assuming a lot of things from a stranger you don't know based on a reply that has the possibility to mean anything. Get out of your head. This kind of stepping on eggshell rhetoric is the stuff of low self-esteem. We both know what I said worked there, and the 1 percent of the time it fails, it doesn't matter. You either understand that and are forcing out this rhetoric due to your misconception that it is superior and correct or you have literal autism. That's funny thing, the r… | /r/seduction | 18/07/15 07:51 AM |
| -18 | Why do girls ignore texts?Coddled wimps can only unleash themselves if graced by a bully. | /r/seduction | 18/07/15 07:45 AM |
| -34 | Why do girls ignore texts?That's because you're a fucking loser. Important people have better things to do with their time than send insincere texts to people they don't value at all. | /r/seduction | 18/07/15 06:51 AM |
| 5 | Ever run into "nice girls"?A "nice guy" isn't just a guy that is nice. It has way more meaning, and part of that meaning is social inexperience. That inexperience leads to insecurity and a drive to fit in. | /r/seduction | 13/07/15 02:18 AM |
| 1 | Ever run into "nice girls"?Nice guys and girls are the way we should be. Hahaha, nope. "Nice guys" are not how anyone should be. They overreact to social queues, which is the reason they are so unattractive. They fall in love for literally no reason, mere proximity and mild social interaction spark it. They then invest tons of emotional energy as well as time/money into people who they barely know at all. No one should be like that ever. It's idiotic, it's pathetic, and it's off putting. There is a great irony in how a "n… | /r/seduction | 12/07/15 11:26 PM |
| 1 | Dealing with a bi-polar/depressed girl. Cut ties?I had one girlfriend like her, and am currently dealing with her telling the police I assaulted her after I broke up with her for the nth time. In fact, she attacked me after I broke up with her. The morning she was unbeknownst to me gone putting in a report with the police, pathetic me was busy sending her a few texts asking if she was all right and whether she'd be coming home (so we could work out what had happened). If you ever broke up with your girlfriend and had time to think about it you… | /r/seduction | 29/06/15 05:45 PM |
| 1 | Dealing with a bi-polar/depressed girl. Cut ties?People treat intimate partners differently than everyone else party due to the relationship being intimate but also due to the familiarity and comfort they have with each other. She'd treat any of those people the same way if she were dating them. They catch people by putting up the fake niceness and remove it as soon as they feel they can, I'm not sure if it's conscious or subconscious. In the same way you might feel comfortable farting or sharing a secret only after dating X months, they only … | /r/seduction | 28/06/15 12:55 AM |
| 1 | Dealing with a bi-polar/depressed girl. Cut ties?Nice. She's just added another miserable link in her chain -- she legitimately feels bad about the whole thing. Her life is awful. But that does not absolve her of any wrongdoing she has done to you, and it is not a sign she has changed. She would still be wrong toward you if given the chance. That's an interesting point about abusers -- they are sort of a victim of their circumstance, and they express their feelings by victimizing others. They treat others that way due to their fucked up past, … | /r/seduction | 27/06/15 10:26 PM |
| 1 | Dealing with a bi-polar/depressed girl. Cut ties?These abusers are also afraid of being abandoned - they have the self-esteem issue. Just break up with her for good, never talk to her, and you'll "be on top". She's the kind of chick that makes you unhappy and has a huge risk of sending you to jail. Get away from her, stop being in rooms alone with her, move out, etc. Don't talk through anything with her, don't try to work it out. There is no working it out. Just leave. If you need time to prepare before leaving, then do it in private. Don't th… | /r/seduction | 21/06/15 12:40 AM |
| 1 | Dealing with a bi-polar/depressed girl. Cut ties?Zox is wrong - even if you love her, this isn't something you need to work with. Think on a logical level for a second, you already are but second guess it because you don't want to confirm what action you must take. She brings nothing to your life. Those are your words, not mine. So it makes sense you need to cut ties with her. The love you feel is not rational and only allows for your abuse to continue. She has traits of an abuser. Women in these situations have all of society to help them, re… | /r/seduction | 21/06/15 12:10 AM |
| 2 | Dealing With MGTOW Loneliness (vid)One video is aimed towards having fun and doing useless distractions (aka drawing a circle and looking at a pretty woman); the other video is about helping men cope with negative aspects of life and the psyche. I feel like the first thing might just be the answer to the second. Should you overcome difficulty in life by having fun or bottling yourself up and listening to a depressing dude on Youtube? | /r/MGTOW | 25/05/15 05:29 PM |
| -4 | Dealing With MGTOW Loneliness (vid)I figured it out, hang out with fun men and women. Enjoy. Who would you rather be around? The dude in the Youtube above or the person in this Youtube? The first one just seems depressed and like a buzz kill, the other can put a smile on my mouth and be part of a good time. On the one hand, I have a beautiful girl tell me how to shade a sphere, and on the other, I have a dude telling me how to deal with loneliness? | /r/MGTOW | 25/05/15 07:41 AM |
| -5 | MGTOW view on prostitutionIt's not a coincidence that you can't take criticism and also want to withdraw from a huge subset of social interaction + society. | /r/MGTOW | 22/05/15 03:19 AM |
| -15 | MGTOW view on prostitutionEvery single one of my previous releationships with women ended badly, with me being bitter and depressed. I think this is your problem. I had a girlfriend of about 4 months recently, and it ended badly. She told the police I assaulted her. But I'm not bitter, it honestly doesn't even matter. My lawyer has confirmed the charges will be dropped, and I had plenty of great life lessons and even fun moments from the relationship. You just have this weird, fucked up view on life for your perspective … | /r/MGTOW | 21/05/15 07:51 AM |
| 0 | I done picked me up a daisy fresh stalker!You asked a bunch of loaded questions. | /r/MGTOW | 21/05/15 04:42 AM |
| 0 | I done picked me up a daisy fresh stalker!Sexual companionship goes beyond the sex of the people involved. Why do you focus on vagina? Men having sex with men, when they have that urge, is just as important and fulfilling as men having sex with women. It's normal social interaction. | /r/MGTOW | 21/05/15 04:32 AM |
| 0 | I done picked me up a daisy fresh stalker!Hey, maybe busting your nuts in a woman is the meaning of life to you but not to me. Is there a reason why you put words in peoples' mouth so readily? Admitting that sex is an exciting social interaction unique to share between you and the sex you find sexy is not saying sex is the only thing that matters. It's a big world out there. Obviously women aren't fulfilling enough to keep you occupied. You're still here after all. I'm not sure what your point is. Yes, I use Reddit every now and then. B… | /r/MGTOW | 21/05/15 04:15 AM |
| -1 | I done picked me up a daisy fresh stalker!By virtue of sex being an action you share with someone, it is social. Your overemphasis on the mechanical aspects of sex speak to your warped perception of what men and women do with each other. I wouldn't be going out on a limb to believe you are a virgin and have never shared a normal sexual relationship with a woman. It's not about getting your rocks off. It's about sharing those actions with another person, one action of which is the part where you get your rocks off. It's like you keep tel… | /r/MGTOW | 21/05/15 03:44 AM |
| -2 | I done picked me up a daisy fresh stalker!Hell, why stop with female permission? Let's just throw all socializing out the window. Be your own man! No need for human permission. | /r/MGTOW | 21/05/15 03:10 AM |
| -2 | I done picked me up a daisy fresh stalker!You don't have the balls to turn down pussy You're saying this as if it's a good thing to reject normal social interaction. I sure don't "have the balls" to do it. I hope you have the balls one day to sit in a room in solitary confinement, forgoing all friends and discussion! | /r/MGTOW | 21/05/15 02:05 AM |
| 3 | I done picked me up a daisy fresh stalker!How many people over the Internet have you met having not said a word to them in private? Or better yet, how many people that you don't like have you offered to meet before you've even had a conversation with them? Dude, I think the other person might have been just a troll. You are in need of a wake up call. I mean, have you ever met a guy from Africa trying to give you an entire fortune? This weirdo /u/randoJohnson messaged me trying to secure such a trade into my bank account. Nigeria hasn't … | /r/MGTOW | 20/05/15 06:51 AM |
| 3 | I done picked me up a daisy fresh stalker!I'm going to level with you right now. I have no idea what your overarching point is -- the entire post seems like the rambles of a 15 year old trying to sound political and brilliant. B) preparing a revenge false rape charge (what else is a white feminist from Toronto to do?) I'm a bit worried for you if your first thought about a stranger is that she is trying to trump up false rape accusations. Yes, false rape accusations happen, and the system does not wade through them effectively. No, they… | /r/MGTOW | 20/05/15 06:12 AM |
| 1 | I did it!You need to focus on those feelings not even existing. It's not a switch you can flip, but you need to verbalize to yourself that they don't need to be there, serve no purpose, and are irrational. Remember that women have the right to reject you. Not only that, most women will naturally reject you. It's nothing personal, it's just business. Each person has their own arbitrary things that turn them on (arbitrary within reason). Of course, work on eliminating the big ones that most people arbitrar… | /r/seduction | 12/05/15 05:09 AM |
| 2 | I did it!I said he was a lucky guy and left. If you want, you don't have to be so anti-flirt after hearing that type of news. Relationships end all the time, so playing your cool after an alleged boyfriend enters the conversation can help you secure a future relationship with her. You could tell give her your number and tell her to call you if things ever go south or tell her you don't mind if she has a boyfriend or tell her it's not like you were asking him for his number and you have no idea why it's e… | /r/seduction | 11/05/15 06:28 AM |
| 0 | Why do men want romantic relationships?When people request a simple summary of why you think something is true and you reply with rhetoric, you should start suspecting you might be in something similar to a cult. | /r/MGTOW | 07/05/15 02:22 AM |
| 1 | Why do men want romantic relationships?What? | /r/MGTOW | 06/05/15 04:13 AM |
| 1 | Why do men want romantic relationships?To be certain, there are absolutely alternatives to a romantic relationship to produce children. Simply because you don't know what these alternatives are does not mean they do not exist. Nice, care to share? | /r/MGTOW | 06/05/15 02:24 AM |
| 0 | Escort ServicesIn your rambles, you completely ignored the point that mechanical sex is about no better than masturbation. Sex is a social thing, and it feels a lot better when two people bond. The point of me bringing up promiscuous sex with random women is that the encounter is near-prostitute in interaction (except it was free). It is mechanic and boring. therewith Thanks for confirming again you are just antisocial and simply can't fuck women the normal way. | /r/MGTOW | 05/05/15 06:15 AM |
| -1 | Escort ServicesYou're pretty much admitting you have social problems if you can't understand the point that bonding with a woman is a positive experience and that it elevates sex from some boring, mechanical thing similar to masturbation to a more social, exciting thing. I haven't used prostitutes, but I have had sex very fast with women who were practically strangers. The sex was way worse than having sex with a girlfriend of even a few weeks. | /r/MGTOW | 05/05/15 05:19 AM |
| -1 | Escort ServicesWay to interpret what I wrote literally, genius. The clear parallel is beyond you, I guess. Having a fun sexual relationship with a woman and sharing with her a bond - which can make the sex even better and which can leave you with a great partner to be around at least temporarily - are both things you lose by sticking with prostitutes. You are left with sex that feels just about as good as jacking off. You live in a stasis. | /r/MGTOW | 05/05/15 03:45 AM |
| 0 | Escort ServicesShe sure did, and I am able to understand she had a severe narcissistic disorder. I didn't tactfully break up with her, which caused her wrath. No, I don't deserve it, but part of being a man is admitting when you could have avoided unfairness by being mature yourself. And I'm still able to have my viewpoint, because I understand people as well as the fact that outliers exist. You can't be afraid to leave your house out of fear of catching a deadly disease or of death by a car. You'd then sit in… | /r/MGTOW | 05/05/15 01:28 AM |
| -1 | Why do men want romantic relationships?well... no. In other cultures there's other ways. Like the woman being property and having no rights at all. There's something called the principle of charity in argument. When you read what I wrote, did you actually think I meant there are literally no other imaginable systems for having children with women? I hope you are a fluent English speaker with the capability to know what I meant -- that there is no other option in the modern world. You may feel it's wrong but when a man is divorce-rape… | /r/MGTOW | 04/05/15 07:16 AM |
| -6 | Why do men want romantic relationships?You can have whatever theory you want about the weaknesses in each gender and how to behave, but if you want to have kids in a "normal" way, a romantic relationship is the only route. | /r/MGTOW | 03/05/15 10:05 PM |
| 2 | Driving a Conversation Sexually?Weird how this is getting voted down. These are some normal ways of flirting... | /r/seduction | 02/05/15 04:28 PM |
| 1 | Driving a Conversation Sexually?The best thing I can say is behave the way your desires are telling you to. If you want a woman sexually, as a simple example, looking into her eyes and touching her arm are two simple things that you probably want to do. Just unleash a bit and roll with the assumption that your actions and words will be accepted - of course, filter through your desires so that your expression of it is reasonable and not harassment. Part of that would be stopping the expression if she indicates no interest. | /r/seduction | 02/05/15 04:25 PM |
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