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Get on your knees and take your top off and then stick your tongue out
/r/seduction18/07/25 03:27 AM
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Did you hit it yet
/r/seduction25/06/25 12:39 AM
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I question the premise. virgin women are low value because they are bad lovers - they don't know how to suck dick correctly, and don't know how to have sex. In fact all virgins are basically lower value in my view.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 06:29 AM
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Word Ok you did the right thing nothing else to be done other than keep going and find more girls
/r/seduction10/06/25 04:33 AM
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You should’ve pivoted back to Z as soon as X said the word boyfriend, unless Z was unfuckable then it’s fine what you did
/r/seduction10/06/25 04:21 AM
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You’re not a douche. But making a move too early is bad game. Comfort + attraction = sex. So you gotta be a bit more patient in some cases
/r/seduction03/06/25 03:45 PM
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If she doesn’t suck dick it’s -10 points. So the 10 becomes a 0
/r/seduction25/04/25 05:05 AM
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Very good stuff
/r/seduction16/01/25 04:35 PM
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Yes the physical escalation one is correct - if she doesn’t respond well to it then you know she just wants a free drink. If she flirts back you know she’s into you
/r/seduction16/11/24 05:43 PM
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Pony up then - pay 20-60% extra on everything. You thought inflation was bad so far just wait and see
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:27 AM
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I am trying to expose her ignorance. Because in fact what she is talking about is not an actual tariff, but simply a crack down on the "de minimis loophole" which allows allows packages from foreign countries to be shipped tariff-free to consumers or businesses as long as their aggregate retail value does not exceed $800 per recipient per day. This was done to stop fentanyl trafficking, not to for any trade protectionism reasons. But the other lady probably doesn't know this
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:11 AM
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Lol. Who tf wants to be a teacher. Being a teacher = being poor. Being poor = no dates. No dates = no sex. No thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:06 AM
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Oh really? Maybe explain it to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:55 AM
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??? I am talking about trump specifically wanting to put 20% tariffs on everything, and 60% on chinese imports. He doesn't understand how tariffs work. It will be tax on men (and women) essentially.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:54 AM
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Dude if you want to ever get laid, you can't think of the opposite sex as the enemy. I guess if you're gay tho it makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:51 AM
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I'm curious do you understand what you're talking about? Have you looked up the details at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:49 AM
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Obama passed the ACA which now provides healthcare for millions of men for since 2010. All trump did was make young men poorer by raising their taxes to lower taxes for himself
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:38 AM
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?? Trump is not banning abortions, DEI still occurs in companies and many colleges, and no one is hunting men in schools lol. Do you think a group of people hunt men like deer in schools or something?? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:36 AM
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?? How?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:31 AM
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Trump won't do anything at all for young men except make them poorer with increase tariffs, healthcare and education costs. What men's issue would trump help with? As a man I support abortion rights for many reasons, but one perk is easier/safer casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:19 AM
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People don’t fill out info on an app cause they are lazy. Tons of profiles are “just ask”.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:02 AM
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Excellent. What were the steps you took to get there? 1) approach the girl 2) make eye contact 3) etc etc Like write down while you remember all the specific details of what you did to get from meet to laid. And then try and repeat this process with other girls - that is how you learn game
/r/seduction12/10/24 03:25 PM
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Bring condoms and have a plan of where you wanna bang
/r/seduction12/10/24 03:09 PM
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It’s just natural. Men have a natural attraction to younger women who are more fertile and healthy. Most women peak in looks around age 23-25. It’s the same for women - most women have a natural attraction for taller men, because they are seen as more protective.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 03:27 PM
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Getting laid is so much easier when you have muscle
/r/seduction07/08/24 05:34 AM
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This is all correct. You should add one more section about OLD and how to get the right pictures there to attract the girls you wanna get
/r/seduction07/08/24 05:34 AM
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Reproducibility = I found this result, but now another group of scientists can’t reproduce it. Cherry picking = there is evidence for and against a hypothesis, but I will purposefully ignore the evidence against it. All professionally trained scientists are trained to not do #2. 2 is done by non scientists mostly. What a terrible analogy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 07:14 PM
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??? Reproducibility has nothing to do with cherry picking evidence - which again is NOT what professional scientists do. In fact that’s the whole point to publishing - when you publish a paper you say “I see this result, let’s wait for someone else to confirm it”.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 07:09 PM
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Scientists DO NOT try and prove hypotheses at all. They try and disprove them. Filtering out evidence that doesn’t agree with the narrative is the most unscientific thing you can do - scientists DO NOT do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 06:59 PM
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I have a wife
/r/seduction30/06/24 08:40 AM
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Very redpill of you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:12 AM
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Women take a while to perfect the art of a BJ. I would prefer they learn (mostly) elsewhere. Not that I want to date a girl who frequented a glory hole or was a prostitute or porn star cause I wouldn’t like that. But atleast if she’s experienced enough with oral sex that’s a good thing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 10:30 PM
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I could care less about chastity. So dumb. I care about consistent sex and loyalty from a woman. Virgin women are unattractive and bad candidates for marriage. They likely don’t know how to kiss. They don’t know how to give BJs. They don’t know what they like in bed. They don’t know any sex positions. They don’t know how to arch their back during doggystyle, or dirty talk, etc etc. They also will always wonder who else is out there for them. I’m not saying I prefer sex workers, cause I would nev…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 03:20 PM
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Absolutely don’t sit across! Find a bar where you can sit next to her of course. When she mentions dinner initially that’s a great sign that she has buy in. If you don’t know how to get laid off a dinner date the problem is on your skill set in seduction, not in the fact that it’s dinner.
/r/seduction13/06/24 07:20 PM
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So that you create good positive feelings in her such that she becomes more comfortable and wants to have sex. Comfort + attraction = sex
/r/seduction13/06/24 05:12 PM
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??? Dude what’s wrong with you take her on a date, pay for dinner, then meet up with her for drinks on a second date, and bang
/r/seduction13/06/24 05:05 PM
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Lift weights, work out, take care your skin, dress stylish, practice going out, have some conversation starters, etc etc and you can achieve this fantasy of yours. It just takes effort and skill.
/r/seduction12/06/24 02:33 AM
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Yeah maybe work on your fashion sense - if ladies offer listen and take their advice seriously. Women know what is attractive to women more than men do. That doesn’t mean women know how “seduce” women ofcourse!
/r/seduction09/06/24 04:53 PM
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Be the most attractive version of yourself. Highlight parts of your life or personality etc that are turn ons, and also avoid showing parts of you that are turn offs. For LTR you will have to be honest about parts of your life or personality are turn offs - BUT if you know you have these issues, work on getting rid of them
/r/seduction06/06/24 08:56 PM
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Looks - likely 7 or 8 out of 10 - I am muscular with a good well kept beard and nice eyebrows but below average height (5 foot 8), I am also bald, so my appeal is niche. Personality - 9 out 10 I am very confident, with no neuroticism or negative emotions, and I can be very empathetic, and I am very extroverted and talkative when I need to be. I can stand out from the crowd. Income - 10 - I make 400K/year Education - 10 - I have a PhD in physics So for SMV probably like a solid 8.5, for RMV proba…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 05:29 PM
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You sure you're actually beautiful? Men and women always claim they are super hot when they are not or are just average. A lot of people have inflated self images
/r/seduction31/05/24 06:00 PM
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It’s not about friends it’s about attractiveness
/r/seduction31/05/24 02:13 PM
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This is the most self aware answer here
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:10 AM
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I think the key number you gotta focus on is date to lay. You have a strong top of funnel actually - 12.5% get number rate would be super duper high on OLD. However out of 18 dates only 2 resulted in a lay seems quite poor. How exactly are these dates going? Are dressing well? Are you picking an appropriate venue? Escalating at the right time?
/r/seduction22/05/24 01:33 AM
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Yeah so it seems like you just got divorced from your post history (congrats!!). IF you’re not into monogamy going forward, the next (sustainable) step is multiple long term relationships (MLTRs). It’s basically what most dudes on the planet want but only a few can achieve - being multiple one-way polygamous relationships. There is an amoral way to achieve this ofcourse (not recommended!), but the more moral way to do it is to find one or two main girls you want to keep in a rotation, but always…
/r/seduction18/05/24 10:00 PM
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You're an expert at seduction congrats!
/r/seduction18/05/24 08:06 PM
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Now that you know how to do it and see the full end-to-end process - the key is to replicate this experience at another bar with another girl but basically keep everything else exactly the same
/r/seduction18/05/24 07:46 PM
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For some people getting someone’s phone number is a form of validation (“yes I am attractive”). It’s stupid to see external validation like this. You should be approaching cause you want to find a cute girl to have passionate sex with - not for some stupid reason of validating your ego.
/r/seduction18/05/24 06:23 PM
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Is he actually handsome? Or is that your perception after knowing him? The way to find this out is to know his likes per day on OLD
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 03:07 AM
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Get laid first then lend the money
/r/seduction17/05/24 04:11 PM
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ofcourse looks matter. Fortunately for us dudes tho having an attractive personality can help a lot in seduction
/r/seduction17/05/24 02:48 PM
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🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
/r/seduction14/05/24 07:33 PM
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Irrelevant post. This that’s nothing to do with seduction but more about your relationship with your friend and the judgement that women put on each other about casual sex. Neither of these topics is relevant here
/r/seduction12/05/24 07:50 PM
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Like yourself, a lot of women set their expectations above what type of man they can actually get to settle down with them. I encourage these women to be single for life and never marry - we need fewer children to be born to help combat climate change so in the long term it’s a net positive for society
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:39 PM
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Self esteem and super high expectations are different things. Everyone, women and men, deserve someone who treats them well. And if someone has good self esteem they will expect this. However, not every average looking woman deserves a super attractive man with lots of options (and vice versa). And therein lies the key dating challenge - many women today in the USA have expectations of dating very attractive men - while being somewhat average attractiveness herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:35 PM
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Talk about a positive memory or inside joke the two of you had. Also I call this a “warm approach” in that you know the girl before hand - but like any approach the chance of success is likely low so don’t get your panties in a bunch if it doesn’t work out. On the flip side if it does work out it could be an easy lay cause she might’ve been harboring feelings for you this entire time as well. You never know till you shoot your shot
/r/seduction06/05/24 07:21 AM
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Yeah she might be fat as well
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 07:31 AM
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Just treat it like any other girl - go on a couple of dates (not 5 or 6, tops 2-3) and if you can’t get laid by then move on
/r/seduction02/05/24 09:31 PM
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One thing to note here - you want to approach women when you're in a more chatty, higher energy, relaxed state of mind. For example, when a party starts, most folks are not as high energy and not as chatty, but as the night goes on people get more comfortable and open up more. When you're in the higher energy/open/relaxed state of mind is when it's best to approach women. Approaching any lady randomly when you're not in this relaxed state of mind will be less successful.
/r/seduction02/05/24 05:20 PM
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Everyone has approach anxiety. You must lean into this fear and just talk to the girl anyways, cause you don’t want to waste an opportunity with a cute girl. Be safe ofcourse - don’t chat up women with boyfriends obv unless you’re OK with a possible fight with the dude
/r/seduction02/05/24 04:15 PM
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Well it’s not really transposing skill, it’s adding a new one. It seems like after the texting phase of tinder match and while on a date you are successful at getting laid yes? So now you just gotta learn how to chat up girls IRL and get their numbers and get them to go on dates with you. Then, whether you met the girl on Tinder or IRL, the texting->dating->get laid process is the one youre familiar with already. make sense?
/r/seduction02/05/24 04:10 PM
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The reason is cause approaching women out in public is a different skill than online. Just do OLD cause it seems like that’s where your success is
/r/seduction02/05/24 03:43 PM
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Bro get the fuck out of here with that loser mindset. Heres what you do: 1) Lift weights and eat healthy - focus on building strength in the arms and chest and back 2) Wear nice clothes 3) Keep a clean body and house 4) Get a good enough paying job to move to a bigger city 5) Learn to be a bit more personable 6) Find a girl in said bigger city, and put your dick inside her 7) Rinse & repeat
/r/seduction15/04/24 11:03 PM
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Now that you've seen the full end-to-end process and written it down, in the future you want to replicate this seduction approach with other women, but note that each lady is different and might require some nuance. But the pattern appears to be: 1) Approach be authentic and flirt 2) Get number and text and flirt 3) Go on another date, and take her to multiple places, solve logistics, have a place to get laid 4) Once at the place to get laid, continue flirting/drinking, and carry her to bed 5) W…
/r/seduction13/04/24 10:30 PM
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I do not have proof
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/03/24 09:42 PM
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Very healthy and solid approach. Now you need to convert - you gotta get her to come see you a second time and then get her to place where you can bang
/r/seduction25/03/24 12:09 AM
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Dude relax - keep getting laid, and focus on your business. If she asks you to do things that don’t involve sex, don’t do most of them and keep your focus on school and your business. Most likely as this continues she will want more - and when she does, you can say hey I am not looking for anything other than casual. This will ultimately cause her to stop having sex with you. At that point find another girl and rinse and repeat
/r/seduction23/03/24 05:56 PM
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You idiot the more you slut shame women the more likely they are to avoid casual sex. We want to encourage casual sex amongst women
/r/seduction22/03/24 05:06 AM
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Focus on muscles - have noticeably higher than average muscle mass on your body - girls like some muscle but not too much, but more than what guys think
/r/seduction21/03/24 06:07 PM
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Don’t slut shame - women should seduce men as well. But I agree that a professor is a terrible target
/r/seduction21/03/24 05:45 PM
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Also a few things: 1) do you know she’s single or not? 2) are you taller than her by atleast 2-3 inches? 3) do you dress well (but casual) at work? 4) how good is your listening/charm/conversational skills - are you able to carry a conservation in a positive way if she’s introverted while she takes time to warm up to you?
/r/seduction20/03/24 06:13 AM
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Hmmm so maybe that’s the time that you get an opportunity with her alone - when you guys are walking around. My encouragement here would be to first just become super conservational with her at work - start there and the next step would be to ask her (as friends) to hang out outside of work - then make a move
/r/seduction20/03/24 06:10 AM
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Hmmmm… is it a back room job where the two of you guys can hang out together without anyone else there?
/r/seduction20/03/24 03:20 AM
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Hmm maybe keep things super professional at work but try and hit her up as she’s leaving work?
/r/seduction20/03/24 03:12 AM
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What have been your interactions with her so far
/r/seduction20/03/24 01:31 AM
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Blowjobs
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:47 AM
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Society does not shame age gaps. It’s older women that shame age gap relationships because they don’t like competing with younger often healthier women. Some older women were also manipulated when they were younger by older men, so it’s a legit concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:15 AM
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I was one at some point yeah - while I was one I was paying for my girl's SAH life at the time as well
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 11:41 PM
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So you haven’t done it yet? Why not? Why not ask him right now to quit his job so you can pay for everything?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 11:14 PM
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So you have a house husband right now? Or if you’re single, you will pay for the dinner and drinks for the date right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 10:17 PM
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Saying “no” to an open relationship has nothing to do with red pill. It’s a point of preference. He could have been 100% blue pill and still said “hey, I think we need to be monogamous”.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 09:57 PM
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If you want one you gotta work for it and actually make enough money to take care of him while he does the dishes
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 09:53 PM
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Well if what's you want why not work hard and get a promotion or work 2 jobs or take more responsibility at work so you can up your salary, and then you can pay for it? House wives didn't exist just by chance - many men purposefully choose careers that get them paid so they can afford to take care of an adult spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 09:23 PM
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You gotta work harder and get a better paying job if you want a house husband bro!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:22 PM
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Yes - so on a first date do you look for this, and pay for the first date to show you can take care of dude and pay for him? There's tons of guys out there who don't make any $$ and don't how to make $$ and I am sure would be happy to have you pay for everything
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:10 PM
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Would you be willing to pay for 80-90% of the bills in order to have a house husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:00 PM
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Would you be OK with paying 80-90% of the bills indefinitely to have a house husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 07:59 PM
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Would you be willing to pay 80-90% of the bills in order to have a house husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 07:57 PM
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It has and always will be OK to reject a woman because she is fat. The polite way to do it is to say “a big beautiful woman is just too much for me” Or “I have an active lifestyle, and I want someone who takes care of their body to be my partner.” These are completely acceptable statements so not sure who you’re arguing with
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 04:54 PM
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Lots of reasons probably. Some women might enjoy it but feel guilty about it - they don’t want to come across as a “whore” and be slut shamed. Women also slut shame each other a lot, because when some women make sex a causal thing, it makes it difficult in the dating market to use sex as a way to get commitment from higher value men. Some women may also legitimately dislike causal sex but still engage in it in order to maintain the interest of an attractive man she wants to keep around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 08:43 AM
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A lot of women do enjoy causal sex. So the premise is false. Women are humans too and humans are very sexual mammals.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 08:37 AM
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Yeah the "men prefer younger" is not a narrative. It's just science. An easy explanation for this that men prefer women who are more fertile and healthy - younger women on average are both. Evidence: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/231858845_Buss_David_M_1989_Sex_Differences_in_Human_Mate_Preferences_Evolutionary_Hypotheses_Tested_in_37_Cultures_Behavioral_and_Brain_Sciences https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2412947/ https://www.researchgate.net/publication/283454064_The_Gend…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 01:49 AM
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Right but the distributions for men and women are not overlapping much. I think I remember reading somewhere that the average man is the 80th percentile of woman masturbation rate. This means that the average man masturbates more than 4 in 5 women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 03:07 PM
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The data are very clear that men want more sex more frequently and in more ways than women on average. Men think about sex more, talk about sex more, masturbate more, are more willing to engage in causal sex, etc.. So your premise is clearly false
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 02:45 PM
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This is just super false. I likely have a high IQ (I got a PhD in physics from an elite school, and was a professional scientist). When dating I always used my IQ to my advantage, by switching up my game if what I was saying or the way I was saying wasn’t getting the girl interested. I also used my IQ to write lots of witty flirty texts and witty sarcastic jokes when texting girls in OLD. Nowadays I guess you could use ChatGPT to do this but yeah it helped. Also women I was dating could tell I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 04:02 PM
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Fit 50 year old for sure - they probably have better bedroom skills
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 05:02 AM
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Height and weight are not the same. People can change their weight through diet and exercise. No one can change their height without literally breaking their bones and paying 100K
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 04:30 AM
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Finding a match means nothing - this is about finding a long term partner. Going on dates is easy for women - finding a quality dude to settle down with is much much more difficult. When I did OLD I met with all kind of girls I knew I would never ever settle for. I did it for practice (keep my talk game strong) and for causal sex. Lots of dudes do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 04:04 AM
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No one is trying to control you lady. Relax
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 04:00 AM
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I am not expecting anyone to change their preferences at all - all I am saying is women who want a long term relationship are not well served by worshipping a dude's height above all else
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 03:59 AM
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If your first thing you look at is facial bone structure when swiping, you 100% will lessen your chances of finding a good lady for an LTR. But maybe you want a short term relationship in that case, enjoy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:45 AM
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Women can prefer what they want - all I am saying is ruling out a good portion of dudes based on superficial desires is an easy way to stay single and not get an LTR. And even when in an LTR, a woman might have to accept romance from their taller partner and higher chance of divorce. That's what the data show
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:41 AM
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Re-read my original post - all I am saying is that it is a mistake for women to rule out shorter men when dating IF their goal is an LTR - given the evidence available. So hopefully the post helps women who are making mistakes in OLD by chasing after taller dudes who won't settle down with them, all while they get older and less desirable overall. I agree there are short dudes are less than ideal and taller men who are less than ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:37 AM
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I care about the health of my future babies
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:20 AM
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There is nothing wrong with having preferences in the bed room - or preferring a lady maintain her BMI (I work out 6 days a week). Those are things people can learn to do. No one can learn to be taller. So it's not equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:19 AM
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Women having plenty of "options" for casual sex is not the same as finding a dude who is willing to settle down with them. Especially for women in their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:17 AM
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Yeah your own personal experience doesn’t refute the evidence. Dudes on this thread or in PPD are not representative of men in general. I am also 5 foot 8
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:16 AM
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I am not against women filtering by height - people can go for whatever they desire - the main post argues that filtering by height works against a woman's desire to find a long term partner, according to the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:01 AM
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Sexual preferences are not the same height preferences. People can change how they behave in the bedroom or their weight. Men can't change their height. It's not even close to same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 01:59 AM
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You’re wrong. I am telling women what I would do if was a woman and wanted to find a long term partner. As a dude I don’t let a woman’s cup size (at a low BMI) get in the way of me considering her for an LTR cause I know it would filter out too many women. Obviously most men and myself included prefer women with larger breasts and smaller waists and larger hips. But these things are rare. Agreed tho - no one owes anyone anything
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 01:20 AM
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Dudes being "interested" is not the same as a dude settling down. Find a guy who will be willing to marry you while you're that old and come back and talk. You might be an exception and if so congrats, and I am happy for you! TBH folks unmarried in their 40s are a huge red flag male or female - it means either 1) they are bad at serious relationships otherwise they would be in one or 2) they got divorced which also means they are (possibly) bad at relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 01:15 AM
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?? OK - this is mega off topic
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 01:12 AM
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Yes - because again - height cannot be changed! But how you act in the bedroom can be changed. What don’t you get about that? Also to the main point here I think women should have any standards they want - it’s whether those standards are compatible with finding a man to settle down with is the issue. Im also by no means an average dude - every woman I have ever been with has wanted to a long term relationship with me and I never been broken up with in my entire life. I am also rarely if ever si…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:49 AM
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You think asking my partner or wife to fuck me how I like it and how often I like is a ridiculous standard? Lol. Again: that’s changeable behavior. A dudes height is not changeable. An equivalent would be demanding the woman I date have a specific bust to hip to waist ratio
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:24 AM
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Sexual preferences are absolutely not equivalent to height preferences. Again - people can change what they do in the bedroom. Height is unchangeable. I should also mention that I do not require my partner to be under 25 - dudes only filtering on super young women is another way to guarantee failure in OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:03 AM
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Same as a dude who only wants thin women with D cups - and that’s the point - how women choose to define attractive is what blocks them from their own LTR goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 11:42 PM
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So to address your first point - there’s tons of guys to have sex with - us dudes will bang anything mostly. But older women absolutely have more trouble finding someone to settle down with. And if you filter on height, you only make relationship goals much harder and for no reason - cause a man’s height is not predictive of relationship satisfaction. It’s an irrelevant trait. To your second point - chubby women are not equivalent at all to short men. Most chubby women choose every day to be fat…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 11:32 PM
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Nothing wrong with porn stars - they are humans too. If you think preferences for how frequently a person connects with their partner sexually is "superficial" you really don't understand men. It would be like saying women who like flowers and bday cards and men who listen to them are "superficial". Sexual satisfaction is key to success in a long term relationship. What's not important is a dude's height or a woman's cup size.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 10:57 PM
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Some guys would rather be single than settle down with a woman who's breast size is less than double D (with a flat tummy ofcourse and nice hips ofcourse) or is older than 25. If women (or anyone) want to be single that's their choice!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 09:58 PM
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You're not really refuting my argument - everyone has preferences. It's whether women's preferences for height are in-line with long term goals of a successful relationship, on average. Sure there are romantic tall guys and non-romantic short guys - but on average it's the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 09:56 PM
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Physical attraction is built around many things - some of those things are changeable and others aren't. I am not saying women shouldn't have physical preferences - am saying focusing on height preference is a good way to ensure a woman who wants to have a LTR doesn't get one - because she's focused on height of her prospective partner instead of her partner's ability to have a good relationship. What's more taller men are shown to be less romantic - so exactly the opposite of what a woman would…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 09:52 PM
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All of those things are things any woman can do and would want to do if she's into me and she wants to be romantic and she's a high value woman. What I am not requesting is that a woman have a certain breast size, which is unchangeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 09:44 PM
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Sexual attraction changes when married. Many women find it hot that a dude makes $$ or does his share of the chores or is responsible with the kids. They post about it on tiktok all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 09:06 PM
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Who cares if a woman doesn’t want to date a guy under 5’8”? Women who want long term partners are the ones who should care. All I am saying is that women's preferences for mates is not lined up with their desires for a longer term partner - as pointed out in the original post.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 08:44 PM
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Is it really a mistake when that’s just what those women are genuinely attracted to? I mean, what would be the alternative? I think an alternative for women is to ask "why am I dating?" If the goal of dating is to find a long term partner and not get divorced - then maybe she should define "attractive" as a dude who is mentally stable and ambitious and educated and romantic, since these are things that actually *do* lower chances of divorce. The alternative (for most women) is to end up alone an…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 08:41 PM
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This doesn't really refute my argument - perhaps women should define "attractiveness" by something more in-line with their goals for long term relationships, rather than body size of the dude. Cause like I said in the original post, the evidence shows that filtering on height means the woman is less likely to find a long term partner and achieve dating success/marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 08:35 PM
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Therein lies the key mistake. If a woman defines "attractive" as the height of their partner, she is on a fast track towards long term relationship failure because taller men are less romantic, and less willing to settle down, and there are fewer of them, and they are more likely to get divorced (see the original post). So instead of filtering by height, women should filter by how romantic the guy is, or how mentally stable he is, or how much discipline/ambition he has, while maintaining an "acc…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 08:31 PM
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There's exceptions to the rule - I am just saying most dudes prefer women in their 20s - the underlying reason for this is men prefer women during peak fertility. That is what the evidence says
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 08:26 PM
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I wish you the best of luck
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 08:24 PM
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Having a lot of options of dudes to meet doesn't mean a woman will have a lot of options for a dude who will settle down with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 08:23 PM
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Exactly - I am not against a good pump n dump in principle - but I would think most women prefer relationships over casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 08:18 PM
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No evidence of this, but okay. You think a woman in love is going to let a desirable man just wander off, or is she excited about their sex life and keeping him satisfied? Here is the evidence. Shorter men were "were most likely to adopt mate retention behaviors such as increasing the love and care that they show their partner". The divorce rate says otherwise. Yes - there is a study that shows men that are "short" (<5 foot 6) are 32% less likely to divorce from data from 1968 till 2014. Maybe i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 08:14 PM
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Weight filtering and height filtering are not equivalent at all. 1) Obese women are more likely to have unhealthy babies. From some research: "Maternal obesity is inextricably linked to adverse health outcomes for the mother and her children. The peripartum period is a critical period of risk." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4862374/ 2) Weight is something women (and men) can control - height is not. 3) Skinnier women are not necessarily less romantic or put less effort into the re…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 08:08 PM
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I see the point - the population of women that pay for a height filter on bumble is not necessarily a random sample of women. BUT the study I just cited above still shows a strong female preference for dudes 6 feet and taller - and this behavior certainly carries over to OLD: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886913000020 Also when I mean "filter" I don't just mean women that use Bumble's software, but women who swipe left because they see a dude's height listed as say 5…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 08:03 PM
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That's a tragedy - you really cut your chances of finding a good dude by being single during your peak fertility/attractiveness years. Kind off topic - but educated men in their 30s generally don't want a 37 year old woman (sorry!), and the majority are already not single (higher education means less likely to be single). Source: I am 36 and have a PhD - if I was single today I would date women in their 20s to like 32 max. If I suddenly became single in my 40s, I would date a woman who is 37... …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 07:24 PM
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No more rare than shorter than average men. You're in the 99th percentile of female height - that's the equivalent of a short man of 5 foot 2. Who said that a man's willingness to perform romantic gestures is sufficient reason to date or marry? I would say it's generally necessary but not sufficient to guard against divorce. Again, taller dudes are less likely to put in effort into the relationship because they have more options and can be single not settle down. Sexual attraction is a predictor…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 07:19 PM
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By "filter" here I don't mean just the actual act of setting up a height filter on OLD. The argument I make (and the statistics) would still be generally true without the software from Bumble to filter by male height. Women on average prefer men 8 inches taller than them, and so an average 5 foot 4 lady only wants dudes 6 feet or above. Which is a good way to ensure failure longer term in finding a mate suitable for a happy relationship because of the arguments I've already made
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 07:10 PM
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Is this true though? Tons of women are single in their 30s and not by choice. Many of those women likely had some kind of stronger height preferences that narrowed their opportunities to meet a dude with relationship skills
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 06:52 PM
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Like I said - if the goal is relationship satisfaction, filtering by preference in what the dude's body looks like is a perfect way to guarantee failure. Actually meeting a dude in social circle who is shorter probably is a great way to guarantee longer term relationship success. But, if the goal is to have short term sex with taller men, then for sure OLD can help out with it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 06:51 PM
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You're definitely wrong - men of all ages prefer women in their 20s. On top of this, women prefer men their same age or older. So once women are in your 30s, they still, on average will want a man in his late 30s. And men who are single in their late 30s or early 40s are single for a reason - all the men who are more skilled at relationships have mostly left the dating pool by the mid to late 30s. The most upvoted comment in r/AskWomenOver30 says exactly that dating is harder for older women: ht…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 06:47 PM
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In the USA
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 06:42 PM
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I think you're a rare case - I am not against women wanting a dude taller than them I am talking to the 99%+ of women that are shorter than 6 feet tall. Even 5 foot 2 girls initially prefer dudes who are taller than 5 foot 10 - even if overall height: 1) is shown to mean the dude is less likely to be romantic, and 2) is not predictive in any way of relationship satisfaction/success
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 06:42 PM
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yes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:33 PM
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While height is a super important factor all else being equal, I wanna say that height does not have to be predictive of your success in dating or casual sex as man. I have a friend who is 6 feet and had far more (2x) the likes per day on OLD than I did, but I still got laid more often than him and with girls that were generally just as cute, save a few super hot girls he had a shot at that I didn’t get. How? My game was a lot stronger, so even though my top-of-the-funnel availability of women w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:32 AM
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judge it with your actual satisfaction. That's what I am doing - if I don't get laid 90% of the times I want, i.e. turn-downs are rare, I am not satisfied. If she doesn't swallow = me unsatisfied. If she gains too much weight = me unsatisfied. Right now she is practicing how to deepthroat and it does take some creativity and intelligence on her end for sure
/r/MarriedRedPill06/07/23 05:29 PM
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Look buddy - you might not have the standards in women I do - but my soon-to-be-wife understands that if she doesn't make an effort to be sexual when I want to (including swallowing) our relationship wouldn't last long. Maybe that's a mind blowing concept for you that someone could have that boundary - but as a 35 year-old-dude who already divorced one woman, thats the bare minimum for me now. PS what I would actually say is: "Look son, I told your mom what I wanted in the relationship from the …
/r/MarriedRedPill06/07/23 04:24 PM
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100% agree - my response (in a very calm tone) to that would be: "You need to apologize for name calling - next time you ask for something you're gonna be respectful about it and ask nicely." my own "boundaries" in a relationship: 1) If the she wants something from me she's gotta ask for it respectfully and in a calm voice - then I am happy to oblige (usually). If she acts all crazy she has to apologize. 2) I get laid basically 90%+ of the time I want (very few turn downs) in the sex positions I…
/r/MarriedRedPill06/07/23 01:16 AM
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I don't get it - are you believing you have to do things around the house in order to get laid? In my own situation, my girlfriend knows our relationship won't survive her not giving me head at least a 3 times a week and sex basically every day. She's def wife material tho.
/r/MarriedRedPill02/07/23 06:42 AM
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Good stuff. There is clear scientific literature on what leads to aging well. If we think about daily behaviors to age well, they are: Work up to Retinol 2% for you face nightly Sunscreen every day you leave the house Cardiovascular exercise at least 3 days a week where your heart rate increases to 150 BPM or more Lift heavy weights as much as you can without injuring yourself - do a push routine, a pull routine, and do squats Supplement with creatine, especially since you are lifting Supplement…
/r/TheRedPill19/05/23 05:47 AM
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People (including anyone older than 18, both men and women and 18 and 19 yr old men and women) go to truerateme to directly ask for opinions on how they look because their friends don't tell them. They are directly soliciting for advice - that's what the subreddit is for. I've used it before myself. I would never, ever comment on a picture of any person online that didn't first explicitly ask me to do so.
/r/RedPillWomen18/05/23 07:53 PM
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I'm just a dude offering my opinion according to guidelines on the sideboard - take those opinions however you want. For the record - I divorced my ex-wife after she crossed my boundaries - and the only person who I care about taking me seriously is my soon-to-be-wife.
/r/RedPillWomen18/05/23 07:50 PM
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Thanks for being happy for us! If you read the side bar, it says "The men who can provide the most valuable advice are: older, married and long time participants in the RP community." I am all three of those things - while not married yet I was married once before (now divorced). But for the record, again - the idea of "HVM" only applies to my girl. Not to anyone else on this sub - because each person's views of what they specifically desire or are OK with in a partner are generally unique.
/r/RedPillWomen18/05/23 05:02 PM
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Yes because I trust her. She does it in front me when we watch movies or TV as well. Being the vain man I am, I ask her “is this dude hot?” - I am always curious to know what you ladies find as attractive or not
/r/RedPillWomen18/05/23 04:36 PM
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If participating in truerateme makes my relationship “non traditional” I’m chill w/ that. For what it’s worth, I’ve also rated older ladies on that subreddit I find attractive - I’m actually excited for me and my soon to be wife to be a hot older 50 year old couple some day. I will own it - I’m a dude and I have eyes - women in this subreddit more than elsewhere should know that men are naturally attracted to younger women (women also prefer men before they become 40!). Doesn’t mean I would ever…
/r/RedPillWomen18/05/23 04:14 PM
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Being high earner (top 1% at 35m) with a PhD, I donate to democrats all the time and am more of a Bernie Sanders fan, but in reality I am a pro-capitalism Scandinavian-style social democrat (far more left wing than USA Democratic Party). I also expect my soon to be wife to be submissive and feminine and stay at home, and I lead the relationship - she wants this as well. So yeah I strongly believe in traditional home is required for a happy marriage, but I do not necessarily believe in a “conserv…
/r/RedPillWomen18/05/23 04:50 AM
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Agreed - and that’s when (generally) she feels comfortable and finds you attractive and knows you’re safe (and is not on her period). I think these dates suggested might not allow for enough dialog
/r/seduction09/05/23 04:07 PM
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Instead of actually doing these dates, I would recommend suggesting them as part of your process to seduce her. “I am want to take you on adventure!” etc. But then when it comes to actually going on the date, just find a good bar where there is a couch and good drinks and take her there. That way you can sit closer to her as the date goes on and you can ask those “deep date questions” etc and then try and take her back to your bachelor pad that ofcourse has a spotless bathroom and a comfortable …
/r/seduction09/05/23 04:04 PM
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I make more than triple six figures a year and lift weights every day and ofcourse my house has a security system I own firearms and wont hesitate to protect my family. But yeah I want submissive wife, but more sexually than with chores etc - obviously I’m looking for a lady to be stay at home and support me in my $$ making endeavors by helping me relax and being a sounding board
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 03:39 AM
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do you even like women as people? Yes I like all people women don't seem to be enamored with your personality Unlike most dudes on here probably I’ve been fairly successful in dating and relationships - every girl I have ever dated wanted to be long term w/ me, and I have always been the one to end both long and short term relationships. Do you deep down see women as equals? No. Women are not the same as men - they want different things in relationships than I do. They think differently about re…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 04:10 PM
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Affection for most men is of the sexual variety - testosterone is a hell of a drug. So essentially any woman who thinks she doesn’t have to give her partner in affection doesn’t deserve a relationship plain and simple
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 04:48 AM
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Hmm I think I have an issue with the “EVERY SINGLE TIME” part in the context of committed relationships. If I am with a woman in a serious long term relationship (or married), and she suddenly starts refusing to have sex just because she simply doesn’t want to, I will break up/divorce her pretty quickly. Maybe she doesn’t want the relationship to end cause it’s valuable to her what I provide (I.e resources, protection, emotional support, a house, a car etc), but she just simply doesn’t want to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 06:34 PM
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I know a lot of you believe you won’t ever find a girlfriend. Some of you have partners who I assume are on board with your RP ideas? Do they know? Yeah my girlfriend knows that I value her looks/health/fitness/beauty as the #1 priority and her loyalty as #2. We discussed it last night. On the flip side, she also recognizes that she mainly values me for #1 kindness, #2 intelligence, #3 wealth/status, and #4 looks - which is mainly inline with how partners value the opposite sex (there is data to…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 09:46 PM
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I want a girl who is submissive and will let me pay & provide for everything
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 04:13 PM
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If you say you're lazy & dumb I believe you, but I would still value you for your looks and body. Unfortunately for men your age that say they are "lazy and dumb" unless they are male models, they are not valued by women at all, and won't be able to date much.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 12:41 AM
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35 M here. I think if you have something other than looks to value I would value it. For example, are you a highly talented musician? Maybe you're going to graduate school? Did you just finish your undergraduate degree and are now working in a competitive field? Are you making lots of $$ in a job for your age? Have you published a book or articles? Maybe you are running a business, or trying to run one? Are you a talented athlete competing in college athletics? Do you have the ability to engage …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 12:01 AM
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I never struggled on Bumble/Tinder, but I know a ton of guys did for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 04:47 PM
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Wow you're so welcome!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 12:56 AM
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Waaaah I am so sad and underprivileged, I have 10000 people who want to meet me and it’s just sooooo much work having all these options!! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 07:03 PM
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I think a lady that is comforting, nurturing, caring, supportive, kind, wears dresses/skirts, etc is very a feminine woman
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 05:37 PM
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Ah I see you're another dude - whole convo is pretty much irrelevant lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 09:39 PM
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having someone that always ever only wanted to be with you because of you, is what you want. There's plenty of dudes who are unambitious (with no plans), broke, obese, 5"2, uneducated, will follow you and let you lead the relationship etc etc who will want to be with you because of you. They will want to be with you because of you for sure and appreciate you forever for giving them a chance. Will you date these dudes?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 07:14 PM
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So yeah you might not like the transactional thing, but if a dude is very successful, he can use that success to get a very beautiful girl. The reverse is true too: "What does a beautiful & sexy woman get in return in the relationship?" She gets to be with a dude who is excellent as opposed to average.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 06:40 PM
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I agree that no one should keep a score card - but if I am gonna work very hard to upgrade my gf's lifestyle to something she wouldn't have, I can be picky about who I do that for. Maybe I want that girl to be very attractive & sexual & feminine & to cook good food & someone who want's to make real effort to look good for me as much as possible - since she will have free time to not work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 06:27 PM
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My main point is that I as a man provide/offer a girl a vastly upgraded life-style for her. What does she offer in return for this other than her "presence" or "happiness" or "loving nature" which tons of women can offer? (which I also offer to her as well?)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 03:28 PM
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Yes - there are plenty of relaxed and happy partners that pay 50/50
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 03:14 PM
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But what does the multimillionaire man get in return for vastly improving her standard of living?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 03:02 PM
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Yes and no tbh. People have no clue how you are on the “inside”. They are more concerned with their own inner world not yours. If you have a seductive apartment with all the right amenities, girls like that, and may get more comfortable to bang w/ you. You could totally have a severed head in your fridge, and she wouldn’t be all the wiser you know what I mean? Humans are selfish - they only care mostly about what you can give them
/r/seduction28/10/22 04:56 AM
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All of these correct - I would add here that material things matter, like your cleanliness, grooming, how comfortable your apartment or house is when you go to bang her etc
/r/seduction27/10/22 06:14 PM
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Status could be mean how much $$ someone makes or social standing in society someone has. In terms of education, women have been outperforming men for 40 years - so while I don't think they should "date down" they should probably modify their hopes of finding dues with higher socio-economic-status than them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 03:55 PM
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Welcome to the world of men - dudes get ghosted continually - it's just part of dating
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 10:02 PM
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Female looks matter more than male looks do - a dude's ability to provide $$ also matters. Even if you're a 7 but he's a 6 on looks, he can still get an 8 or 9 if he makes enough $$
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 09:31 PM
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Yes - if you try and initiate meet up and she doesn't follow up, just don't answer
/r/seduction24/10/22 08:41 PM
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I think your problem is you go for guys that cannot get to commit to you cause you're not hot enough
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 08:29 PM
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This type of bedroom issue is better for r/sex
/r/seduction22/10/22 01:58 AM
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Just realize that’s it’s a natural reaction cause your caveman brain is worried a rejection will cause you to be an outcast in the “tribe” which could lead to starvation and death. That’s why humans care so much about what strangers think - we think those strangers are members of our “tribe”! Our brains were built for a time when most humans knew like 200 other humans tops, so reputation mattered and trying to fuck a woman that wasn’t yours mattered. In reality, we live in modern society, so you…
/r/seduction15/10/22 04:29 PM
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Yeah I tried that one too and it’s dumb - don’t waste your time it’s not helpful. Instead approach people in person like a normal human and be OK with some girls saying “no” and move on and find a girl who says “yes” and take her home and bang
/r/seduction15/10/22 05:46 AM
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Dude has found a successful strategy and women getting laid wanted to get laid
/r/seduction28/09/22 02:37 PM
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Really isn't. I can't post my thoughts about this anywhere without being called a misogynist
/r/TheRedPill03/09/22 06:26 AM
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Correct - I actually think I can double my salary again in 2 years and then diversify into local businesses
/r/TheRedPill03/09/22 05:51 AM
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I dunno I am not really into my ideal girl doing chores that much tbh - I am pretty conscientious guy so I keep my place clean and I don't really need a maid-type girl - I can afford a maid or a cleaning service
/r/TheRedPill03/09/22 05:35 AM
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Yeah I guess of all the things on my list cooking is the lowest of value. I am probably just looking for a proper side chick
/r/TheRedPill03/09/22 05:28 AM
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You make $$ at work. Work is (typically) a place to not hit on girls cause that's where you make $$ to eat. Hence - don't shit where you eat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 11:37 PM
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It’s true that leaning into a stereotype doesn’t work to be attractive or build a lasting relationship with all girls. But that’s not the goal - the goal is to elicit a strong reaction where a girl either loves you or hates you cause of the stereotype. Then you get to bang the ones that love the stereotype
/r/seduction31/08/22 02:09 PM
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It sounds like straight racism to me - girls being attracted to black or brown men that follow a stereotype. My suggestion is if you're looking to bang lean in to it - I used to play up the "latin lover" type to get laid
/r/seduction31/08/22 05:05 AM
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Yeah but aggregating many data sets together from many different research papers shows that physical attractive *does not* predict relationship satisfaction at all: https://www.wired.com/story/data-marriage-behavior-love-psychology-romance/#:~:text=Large%20data%20sets%20provide%20intriguing,matters%20for%20our%20romantic%20happiness.&text=This%20story%20is%20adapted%20from,%2C%20by%20Seth%20Stephens%2DDavidowitz.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 05:27 PM
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The only problem with that logic is that folks who are actually very hot on apps may actually have a *lower* probability on average of being someone to have a happy relationship with, because people who are very hot but been on apps for a long time are usually single for reason(s). I.e. being on the app for a long time is actually a red flag for men in particular. Conversely, more "average" looking people on apps (especially men) are single cause they haven't had the chance to meet that many dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 03:32 PM
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The sad thing is that neither a man’s job or looks or height (or a woman’s) can't predict if a woman will be in a happy relationship - I.e they have a very small impact on relationship success EDIT: mean't can't predict
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 02:12 PM
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Any woman who doesn’t want to get laid on the 2nd or 3rd date isn’t relationship material in my book cause her sex drive is probably lower than mine. Just won’t work
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:11 AM
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Whoa really? no way!! Dang
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 04:45 AM
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You're welcome!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 04:36 AM
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I dont care about a woman's sexual past - I only care if she wants to get laid w/ me
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 08:42 PM
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Just focus on the process not the outcome. Don’t be a little wuss about it worse that can happen is she says no. Learn from every approach you do - it’s a skill that can be honed and improved
/r/seduction30/07/22 06:39 AM
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So you mean like connect with women over shared experiences? Personally I find it difficult to connect much with women over the type of "human-ness" you describe cause my "human-ness" is quite different I think. You gotta understand that I don't think of my life as having particular hardships (I have a car and can afford a home & that's enough for me), I don't really grieve (what's the use?), I don't really "fail at things" (it's just delay till success), I do learn from things, I don't have ins…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 11:24 PM
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connect with other humans on a human level. What does this mean exactly to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 10:25 PM
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I feel bad for the uggos
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 10:27 PM
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As a 34 yr man who works out occasionally- this lady has got a sexy bod
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 01:37 PM
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By coming up and talking and making a joke etc I already am taking matters into my own hands. The issue is that many women are fairly passive about the courtship process (“if he wants me he will make things happen and handle all obstacles no matter what, I just wanna wait and see”) but in doing so, friends will come in and make the decision for her. Now I guess within 30 seconds of meeting someone I could be like “hey what’s your number lemme take you on a date you’re cute”, but 30 seconds is of…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 04:52 PM
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This is false - sometimes it takes time for the girl to find out if she’s interested (she doesn’t reject you right away, but also you’re not super hot so she doesn’t show overt interest right away) but the friend sometimes comes in and cuts that courtship process short
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 05:12 AM
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lol have you met any? Many don’t shower
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 02:13 AM
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I back in my early-to-mid twenties I was decently successful at cold-approach in my opinion (like 3-4 girls a year just from cold approach) for a 5'8" average looking dude (I give myself a 7 out of 10 looks wise, though I did have decent muscle). One example was when I went to a bar alone and started drinking, and approached some girl there with her friend. Her friend proceeded to encourage her to hang out w/ me (she found out I was going to graduate school for astronomy and thought it was attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 03:07 AM
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We have too many people anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 02:09 AM
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I found out a girl I was dating from bumble was a virgin once and I dumped her immediately - I was like, I don't want to take that responsibility of being your first
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:28 PM
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The lists doing coincide cause short term and long term mating strategies are aka are different ways to make more babies. So necessarily the two lists might not overlap. You can actually give people the big 5 personality test (validated scientifically accepted) to find out al the traits that people good in LTR. Broadly speaking, you want someone who is low the neuroticism score (so they are emotionally stable), high in conscientious-ness score (so they work hard at the relationship), and high in…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 07:43 AM
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If I was a single father and our kids were similar ages, it would work quite well. But otherwise it just wouldn’t for many reasons others posted here. I would say that this phenomenon of people dating similar people to themselves is very common.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 07:36 AM
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Let’s say the guy has the ambition to be best World of Warcraft player in his online league, but also makes minimum wage and has a high school GED and never went to college and has no plans to. Does that count
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 05:19 AM
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The implication of the question is that dude would make less than the average person for his age
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 05:16 AM
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Ah OK so if he stayed home with the kids, had no job (you pay for everything) was 5’2” it’s OK? Also no immigrants to the British Isles right (non citizens)?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:18 PM
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What does this mean though “love” exactly to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:15 PM
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Just to be sure - you would settle down for the rest of your life with a dude is 5’2” and is unemployed, and needs you to pay for restaurants, movies, rent etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:10 PM
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Just to be sure - you want short, a virgin, doesn't exercise, introverted, lots of free time, and sweet instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:36 AM
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Because women are more likely to shy away from causal sex, "simping" aka lusting over someone, is typically a male thing. But I would say women *do* simp - probably the most common is when they throw themselves at famous men for casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 05:11 PM
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I’m talking about the girls who want diamonds bracelets or 6’4 dudes despite being 5’2 And unfortunately just like most dudes are useless most women have nothing more to offer than sex
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 09:13 PM
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I don’t think there is anything wrong with these so long as the girl who has high standards have similar things to offer: larger nice breasts, good at makeup & hair, knows how to wear a dress, is very feminine, has a high sex drive, has her nails done, knows how to cook, is decently physically fit, is decently intelligent and hard working… The problem is women who have nothing to offer except for sex thinking they have a right to a top quality dude
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:37 PM
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Sigh. This is a perfect case of severe cherry picking of research and assuming correlation implies causation
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 01:15 AM
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OK
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 01:56 AM
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With culture changing quickly and what is and is not socially acceptable changing quickly, the data must be gathered and analyzed faster that’s all
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 01:55 AM
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Ah I see so now you claim societal context matters? Cause I could've sworn you made claims that data from 20, 30+ years ago somehow mattered today. Yeah lol dude you're a funny guy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 12:54 AM
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Yeah studies of 300 people to predict complex behavior is tenuous at best. Your claims that research about body counts from 20 years ago before OLD and before the acceptance of sexual promiscuity is simply poor critical thinking - and you fail to address the researchers who disagree with your claims (about their research!)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 12:53 AM
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Yeah well the IFS blog post shows that mean number of sex partners for men peaked in the 60s and 70s - and the divorce rate at the time was similar to today. So yeah you're wrong. https://ifstudies.org/blog/nine-decades-of-promiscuity
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 12:25 AM
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Notice (as addressed below) how all of this cherry picked research is either old (before OLD) or small sample (some studies have 300 people!) and none of the actual authors of some these papers make the claims this dude claims. Lol Also notice how this dude doesn't actually confront the researchers quotes themselves above. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 11:58 PM
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Some women may find committed sex more satisfying, some may find sex equally good in any contexts, and some may find casual sex more satisfying. Holy moly dude... Yikes lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 11:57 PM
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SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION BELOW. TL;DR; Claims of body count somehow being a critical variable for divorce, infidelity etc are tenuous at best, with actual researchers saying the opposite, with their (admittedly small) datasets. u/Appropriate-Ad2175 doesn't want to face the data though, he has some excuses for being wrong. ​ Prediction: If body count before marriage was predictive of divorce, you would expect a clear trend towards higher divorce rates with higher sex partners.Actual data: Recent dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 11:43 PM
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Again - low casual sex partners (2010s) -> lower divorce. Higher casual sex partners (1970s) -> same level of divorce. So no you're wrong unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 11:37 PM
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I just hope you some day can learn to *listen* to the actual researchers. I have failed to get you to listen but thats OK. I feel really bad for you dude - when you're cornered on the research you devolve to ad hominen attacks - I am willing to bet you are virgin or a near virgin? Is that why you cherry pick evidence and make claims about research that the researchers themselves disagree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 11:22 PM
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No it's no adequate - that's why I didn't bring it up - but you insisted to bring up my past divorce so I felt I needed to be clear w/ you. But at a bare minimum it shows that even in the real world there are lived experience that is the opposite of your claims buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 11:18 PM
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OK buddy you can ignore the evidence that contradicts your claims if you want
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 11:13 PM
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Oh come on man - now you’re just reaching. In a decade where rates of causal sex were higher than today, the divorce rate remained the same. Your claims of overwhelming evidence should actually show a strong signal here - they don’t. It’s because the evidence is weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 11:12 PM
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And … crickets… when faced with real life longitudinal research the measures traits of newly wed people and actually can predict infidelity. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 10:43 PM
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But we do see that "lol!". The article you cited (now you like IFS? lmao) is called "The U.S. Divorce Rate Has Hit a 50-Year Low", and shows a consistent decline in divorce since 1980 (when marriages from the 70s started to dissolve). Again - casual sex rates were high in the 1970s and divorces were similar as they are today when casual sex rates are lower. Right there your claims about "overwhelming evidence" of body count fall flat. Sorry buddy - and that's from a biased source at the IFS!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 09:38 PM
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u/Appropriate-Ad2175 Are we gonna ignore the fact that even your own biased source of the IFS says divorce rate is "higher" for 2 partners vs having 3-9 partners? Or is this just another piece of evidence you wanna pretend doesnt exist? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 09:36 PM
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All I'm telling you is that the research is clear: more promiscuous people are significantly more likely to cheat (which is the main cause of divorce). If you don't want to get cucked and divorced again, perhaps you should rethink your preferences in women. Since you keep bringing this up (I don't think my own divorce should matter) - you should know that she actually had a body count of 3 when we met lol. At the time she said I was "stealing her youth" and that she "married too young". So yeah …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 09:35 PM
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OK u/Appropriate-Ad2175- are we just gonna ignore this research that says unambiguously the opposite of what your claims are? prior number of short-term sexual partners was positively associated with infidelity among men and negatively associated with infidelity among women, although both of these associations were marginally significant;
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 09:24 PM
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actually read the author's interpretation Come on man - listen to what the actual researcher is saying about her own paper - she disagrees with you. Please read: “We are not suggesting that committed sex is ‘better’ than casual sex (or vice versa) for women. Many people tend to interpret our findings that way. However, we should not fall prey to the notion that there is a specific type of relationships that works best for all women, that casual sex is not for women, or that casual sex will harm …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 09:22 PM
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And so did I! Again your claims of "overwhelming evidence" of "body count == bad" fall flat when examined from quotes of actual researchers. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 08:31 PM
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Young adults are having less casual sex than in the past, each generation since baby boomers has a lower "n-count" than the previous generation. Seems that in every comment you make there's statements that are the opposite of reality. Yes but it's *more acceptable* to have higher N count than in the past - so claims about past associations from 15-20 years about N count and infidelity or divorce are simply wrong today - and the researchers themselves are proving from the citations you are making…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 08:30 PM
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Lol dude! Come on there was no OLD in 2004, so *ofcourse* number of sex partners amongst people is changing over time (aka going up) - that obviously makes 2021 very different culturally and otherwise from 2021. The French et al. paper you just cited says NOTHING about body count man! And in fact listen to what the researcher is saying even amongst sexually permissive attitudes, people can still have very good long term relationships: Additional exploratory analyses provided preliminary evidence…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 07:40 PM
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Alright man - you're not actually reading what the researchers themselves are saying, but thats OK. Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 07:30 PM
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Dude - the researchers themselves disagree with you - what they are finding clearly from the study is: prior number of short-term sexual partners was positively associated with infidelity among men and negatively associated with infidelity among women, although both of these associations were marginally significant; And what *really* matters is how much attention newly weds are paying to people outside the relationship. This obviously makes sense lol. But it's one small study, but goes to show y…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 07:29 PM
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oof... did you actually read the author's interpretation of their own study...? “While sexual contexts matter for women’s orgasmic function and sexual satisfaction in general, this is not true for many women. Women in general had higher orgasmic function and sexual satisfaction when they had committed sex (sex in a romantic relationship) than when they had casual sex,” Wongsomboon told PsyPost. “However, this is not true for women who had positive attitudes or were more inclined toward casual se…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 05:27 PM
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the trend is clear. Are you just gonna ignore that more recent data from your own biased source disagrees with the claims of the previous blog posts? Earlier research found that having multiple sex partners prior to marriage could lead to less happy marriages, and often increased the odds of divorce. But sexual attitudes and behaviors continue to change in America, and some of the strongest predictors of divorce in years gone by no longer matter as much as they once did. And here's the data from…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 03:44 PM
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BTW... did you know the IFS is a conservative think tank, with a right-wing agenda, and none of the links you have posted from the IFS were actually published in peer-reviewed journals? Man that's some serious cherry picking right there lol - "lemme find the one set of blog posts on the internet that match my preconceived views, I don't care if it's peer-reviewed". The "other researchers" link you post is from 2004(!) come on man you *know* sexual history and choices today culturally are far dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 03:18 PM
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OK so you're not going to pay attention to the fact that a study of 300-1000 people is simply suggestive at best? And you're gonna ignore changing sexual/cultural norms to claim somehow that studies from 15 years ago matter? Cultural norms are *critical* to accurate measurements in psychology, especially when sexual partner acceptability has changed drastically over time and 15 years ago there was no online dating! So yeah bro... Researchers in peer-reviewed journal articles themselves are not s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 03:14 PM
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Come on man *read the paper* , page 11: With respect to the associations that varied across participant sex, partner attractiveness was negatively associated with infidelity among men whereas own attractiveness was negatively associated with infidelity among women; further, prior number of short-term sexual partners was positively associated with infidelity among men and negatively associated with infidelity among women, although both of these associations were marginally significant; be honest …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 03:01 PM
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Here's another more recent look and predictions of infidelity, but only included 233 (!) people, and number of short term partners was only barely statistically significant compared to other variables... dang man lol... (See table 1 here:) https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Attentional-and-Evaluative-Biases-Help-People-by-Mcnulty-Meltzer/8dc0ee557a7f85ba4ba90a9b89961d5e787254a7
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 08:39 AM
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From the most recent research on predictors of infidelity:https://ifstudies.org/blog/predicting-infidelity-an-updated-look-at-who-is-most-likely-to-cheat-in-america It seems like being religious or the victim of past cheating, or unstable marriage is associated with higher cheating rates, but not by much tbh, and it's only N=1200 so also quite poor data. Notably, there is no mention of "body count" as a predictor EDIT: Scratch this post - I no longer believe IFS studies are legitimate or careful…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 08:32 AM
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Besides, promiscuous women aren't the sex goddesses you portray them as. Not only they are likely to have learned bad habits from casual sex (which differs greatly from sex in a committed relationship), but they are also less likely to enjoy sex within a committed relationships. This claim is also quite tenuous - a 1000 people in a study is not much, and if I am not mistaken there were only (2!) previous studies on the topic? Did we even see the effect size? If the difference is "lower sex satis…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 08:23 AM
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overwhelming evidence Yikes. I am just curious if you have read the research that you cite...? "Overwhelming evidence != cherry picked small population studies from 15-20 years ago". TLDR; the research definitely seems to suggest that having 1 sex partner or less means lower divorce rate, so that's fair, but every other claim seems tenuous at best or lacking real good quality data from your links. 1) The first group of citations from your "overwhelming evidence" link claiming a link between numb…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 08:11 AM
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Ah for marriage I definitely prefer someone with sexual experience - a virgin is probably the worst type of woman to marry other than a fat girl or a man-hater or a low effort girl who doesn’t know how to dress sexily or cook
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 06:41 AM
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I don’t want to teach anybody - she better come correct the first time or get dumped, but then again I have standards when it comes to sex. I agree though that some women who have had lots of partners might be jaded. But someone jaded is preferable to waiting years before she gives me proper head
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 06:40 AM
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I’m saying women with experience should always be preferable. If you’re a prude and you’re looking for a virgin prude gf though by all means lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 06:38 AM
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Wait so it’s abnormal now to prefer an attractive woman who can actually give head correctly vs a woman who is a virgin? I would think most men prefer women who actually have some skill over a shy virgin who requires patience and time
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 06:32 AM
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Have you ever been in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 06:24 AM
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What if the one guy she had sex with liked sex a specific way, and then she brought that to you? People need a variety of experience before they can really learn
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 06:24 AM
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I think women with sexual experience are objectively better. Just like I think women with more experience exercising, wearing makeup properly, communicating, cleaning, cooking etc are also objectively better. It doesn’t mean I prefer an old lady though, I prefer 22-30 yrs old
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 06:22 AM
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Yeah dude you’re the one making the claims, the burden is on you to provide the peer reviewed proof. From your statements it does seem like you have had to coach people before - I just don’t want to have to do this. My requirements for a girl are more than that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 06:19 AM
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I completely disagree with this. If you’ve been in a long term relationship where the spark has waned, you would know that strong emotional connection can exist, but sexual desire can suffer. I would prefer someone with an inherently stronger sex drive in that case. If I wifed up a virgin I have no clue what I would be getting - someone with a lower or a higher sex drive
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 06:16 AM
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Someone who changes their mind based on the evidence after looking into it. A rare site on the internet!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 06:12 AM
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Yeah marriages where people are more sexually fulfilled lead to more stable families and less divorce. Getting a virgin wife is the opposite of that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 06:02 AM
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Yeah I guess you have lower standards when it comes to bj technique than I do and overall less requirements for a wife. If a woman has poor bj technique, can’t cook, can’t clean, doesn’t know how to sexually submit, she isn’t wifey material. I guess for you, your standards are a bit lower but there you go you apparently are Ok spending weeks or years teaching someone. I am not OK with it at all
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 06:00 AM
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And they probably don't get laid as much as I do that's for sure lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 04:43 AM
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Wait why would a virgin who doesn’t know how to bang be preferable to a woman who knows how to have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 03:38 AM
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If you’re with that girl dump her and find someone else? There’s always more fish in the sea I always say
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 03:25 AM
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If you cite real peer reviewed research journal articles and post links and provide the abstract of the paper, I will change my mind (I promise!) Do you value a woman who is sexually submissive but also sexually enthusiastic? PS - yes my standards are high. If a girl gives me a BJ with teeth I would dump her immediately. Apparently you would put up with it cause reasons (?)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 03:21 AM
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Lemme tell you this - I don’t think I’ve ever met a dude who gets laid regularly and talks about “chaste” women as desirable lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 03:19 AM
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Yeah for me it would probably be the opposite. Mistakenly marry A and regret it and then cheat on her with B lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 03:17 AM
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You don’t want your woman to know how to sexually submit to you? Dang you’re missing out lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 03:11 AM
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Let me tell you right now, I have never had a girl break up with me in my entire life. I have always been the one who has dumped every girl in every relationship I have ever been in. One key step to not judge her for her past, but instead be more concerned with how she will treat you in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 03:06 AM
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Can you cite some peer reviewed research that says higher N count for women is causally connected to higher divorce rates? Otherwise you’re just agreeing with me that it takes more effort and time to teach a girl to give good head, rather than just have a girl who is already experienced. My standards are high enough that I don’t have to tolerate inexperience
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 03:03 AM
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Yeah I just disagree with this. If anything how a woman or man or anyone else acts towards you is going be a direct consequence of their past experiences. In this case, again, if she has a high N count but doesn’t want to have sex with you as often as you want, then dump her. But my point is that a woman with a high N count is more likely, probability wise, to have a higher sex drive than a woman with a lower N count. If her internal sex drive is higher it probably means it will be higher with y…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 03:00 AM
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It’s hard for me to understand cause I’ve never been jealous in my entire life (if someone travels good for them!) But I would think that if I liked to travel a lot and I met a girl who had a past history of traveling a lot but now she doesn’t want to anymore… I mean we probably wouldn’t be compatible at all, aka I would dump her lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 02:55 AM
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So you actually prefer having to teach a girl to not use teeth during a BJ? I would never put up with that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 02:50 AM
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I played my own version of “The Bachelor” for a while on OLD lol but now I am happily in a relationship with a woman who happily lets me do whatever I want to her every day we can lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 02:49 AM
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B is preferable for an LTR in my view lol. I had several dates with a girl on bumble last year who was a virgin. She was really bad at giving head and I dumped her lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 02:39 AM
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The pizza is the sex, the cook is the “sex partner” in this analogy. It’s pizza from a cook who has baked lots of pizzas vs pizza from a cook who hasn’t baked a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 02:37 AM
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Nah - as I say in the post at minimum 10 partners is attractive, more than 40-50 is meaningless cause it’s just more quantity
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 02:34 AM
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Wait but why? A higher N count woman is more likely to have a higher sex drive, and most average men in average marriages wish they had sex far more often than they do. So it would appear to be the opposite of your claims? PS - if a girl doesn’t enthusiastically have sex with you every day in the marriage and regularly submit, then obviously her actions make it clear that maybe she prefers someone else, in which case you could dump her or get divorced. I’d rather be at 50% wealth than at 0% sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 02:31 AM
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I don’t get it - what does preferring a woman who knows how to give head properly on her knees have anything to do with “cuck fantasy”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 02:27 AM
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Yeah I don’t get this - if you’re with a girl who is uninterested in sex with you (cause she prefers someone else) then just dump her? I would sign divorce papers immediately rather than have my sex life dwindle to once a week PS - if you’re with a girl who doesn’t respect you also dump her immediately? I don’t get what any of this has to do with why women with more sex experience are preferable
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 02:14 AM
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Yeah Netflix isn't evidence unless they cite peer-reviewed research. If the dude is insecure about other dudes who have had sex with a girl, that sounds like some weak sauce to me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 02:10 AM
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Training someone is waay too much work for me bro. I have standards - I prefer someone with sexual experience and enthusiasm where I don't have the teach them to "not use teeth" and "not starfish". If I have to teach a girl to be comfortable with swallowing, she's gonna get dumped quickly. To me sex is like enjoying a pizza. Is the pizza somehow more delicious if the restaurant has served it to fewer people? Probably not - probably the opposite is the case, cause the restaurant cooks are still n…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 02:08 AM
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??
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 01:57 AM
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Yeah you're not changing my view at all lol - it sounds like you agree with me that "chaste" women take more time, which is not preferable to me at all
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 01:56 AM
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Yeah I am not into hot past hotwifing or whatever. I am a simple man who prefers a woman who knows how to give head - women with higher N count are *more likely* to have more experience. I’m curious though, what exactly about a woman with a low body count is attractive to you? A low body count to me means 1) she’s inexperienced, and 2) she has a lower sex drive, both of which are not attractive qualities at all
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 01:55 AM
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I don’t actually think there is any evidence that suggests that women with higher N count are less likely to pair bond. By in large the majority of all women want to pair bond cause it’s beneficial for women to tie down the resources of a man
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 01:48 AM
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I think dudes who are insecure about whether the girl they are with has had better in the past are the low self esteem people - these are also the dudes without girlfriends
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 01:42 AM
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No one likes an overweight or unhealthy girl myself included. I prefer women who work out every day and do yoga
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 01:38 AM
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I’m confused - you agree that women with higher body count give better head, but you prefer a woman with lower body count for wifing because(?) I guess for me since all I want to do generally is get laid, I would wife the girl who gives better head IMO
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 01:35 AM
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Yeah I think the main reason women cheat is because of emotional reasons not because they are in search of sex (usually), so I don’t think there’s a correlation of female loyalty and her sex drive. I guess maybe I am the only guy on here who actually prefers a woman with a higher body count cause it means she is OK with having lots of sex
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 01:25 AM
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Yeah that’s fair. I guess I have a very high sex drive and prefer someone who matches my level. You apparently are OK not getting laid so maybe the sex part of a relationship is not as important to you, which to each his own
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 01:19 AM
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I don’t expect anyone to read my mind, but again, my view is that women who have more experience with having sex in general are better in bed. Which to me is preferable, especially if she knows how to submit properly etc
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 01:17 AM
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She probably has high N cause she actually likes sex, which in my view is very attractive. Many women don’t have as high sex drives as men, so many dudes are in relationships where they don’t get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 01:04 AM
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This doesn’t make logical sense. Women with more sexual partners are more likely to have chosen to keep having sex despite bad experiences, so it’s the opposite of your claims. I do agree though that some percentage of women who have had bad sex experiences know what they don’t like to do - which is good, cause then I can have an honest convo with her and be like “Ok you don’t like giving head we probably won’t have a good relationship” PS - just having a woman who knows how to give head well an…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 12:48 AM
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The problem with having a lot of sex with just one person is that she may think that all guys like the same thing - or she may not have had any honest sex convos with that 1 guy. When a woman has had sex with more people, she is more likely to pick up on the commonalities and differences amongst the men she has been with, which is beneficial for me IMO
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 12:44 AM
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Why do you care what those randos think
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 11:59 PM
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One of the most attractive qualities in a woman is a lady who openly and unashamedly enjoys sex and wants to sleep with you sooner rather than later to find out if you’re sexually compatible
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 11:24 PM
2

She already has my credit card and we live together and I pay most of the rent and all of the bills lol - but do I want her to be my personal porn star? Also yes lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:06 PM
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I already pay for my gfs nails, but I would also gladly pay for lashes, heels or anything else. How can I convince my gf to let me pay and get her lashes lol? Also how can I convince her to let me buy her more heels So yeah, I’m actually on OPs side on this one
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:21 PM
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Her having told me she went on 100+ dates on tinder to finally meet the guy that worked for her perhaps yeah she could go on another 100+ dates But you’re right no one needs a relationship!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 02:04 PM
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Had my current live in gf (I pay for everything with her for the past year) made me wait to have sex I wouldn’t gotten emotionally invested in her and she would have lost me to someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 01:58 PM
1

Yeah from your photos you’re average looking. But being a young white female makes it easy for you to find tons and tons of matches on OLD so now your standards are way above what you have to offer. Not uncommon. Your male equivalent likely wouldn’t get matches at all
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 02:24 PM
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Men have lower standards for who to have *sex* with - so high-end men have tons of abundance for relationships, and high end women have tons of abundance for easy sex
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 06:22 PM
1

OYS #1 Me: 33, no kids, 163, 5'8, girlfriend 27. body fat percentage? Unknown. Lifts? Unknown cause I am a weak little b*tch when it comes to lifting right now. Background: Met my current girl on tinder about year ago after some dating around. Divorcing ex-wife cause she was having an affair - process is going smoothly should be finished in coming few months. Fitness (1/10 score): As mentioned above, my fitness routine is completely pathetic. I haven't worked out in 2 months due to getting bronc…
/r/MarriedRedPill30/12/20 06:42 PM
20

My post was an open call for criticism - No problem. When I am down, I appreciate a good kick, it helps bring out the desire to win again in me.
/r/MarriedRedPill02/01/19 06:36 PM
5

It's another way of saying: take care of yourself first, and build your lifestyle, and live life on your own terms, when married or single.
/r/MarriedRedPill02/01/19 05:34 PM
1

Fuck no. I am apparently fairly bad at game right now, but absolutely not.
/r/MarriedRedPill02/01/19 07:33 AM
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Fuck you I (had) game, and I'll get it back. Just apparently not now, cause she was into some other dude. I gotta lift more fuck.
/r/MarriedRedPill02/01/19 07:29 AM
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Honestly I didn't want this post to be about her at all. I wanted it to be advice for what I should do to never get cucked again
/r/MarriedRedPill02/01/19 05:25 AM
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Fucking tell me about it. I want that money to invest and get wealthy and start businesses in the future, like I always was supposed to do, before I got married.
/r/MarriedRedPill01/01/19 08:04 PM
1

I have a text from her yesterday talking about the dude. Her friends know of the dude's existence as well.
/r/MarriedRedPill01/01/19 08:04 PM
1

That sucks man. Where did you live/did you have kids/how long married? I am not sure. I have 33K in a 401K. I have 32K in a scholar share account that we set up for her grad school. We also have 28K in cash from her parents, and 17K in an etrade. Basically I paid for everything for the past 5 years (married 1.5) so I really hope I don't have to pay alimony.
/r/MarriedRedPill01/01/19 08:02 PM
1

Definitely will post there. I bought her one of those implants that keeps women from getting pregnant, so I am fairly certain we are good on that tip!
/r/MarriedRedPill01/01/19 07:06 PM
1

I have no clue. Divorce lawyers don't consult on new years day unfortunately. We have only been together 1.5 years though, so it I am really hoping no alimony is necessary.
/r/MarriedRedPill01/01/19 07:03 PM
1

The classic "you can't turn a hoe into a housewife" is strongly ringing in my ears. I am so cynical of marriage now, I will probably deliberately amp up the side of me that attracts thots. This time though, I will not be marrying them.
/r/MarriedRedPill01/01/19 05:22 PM
1

Thanks man - had she not been a bit high after vaping some sativa/indica, I may have never found out. Yeah she doesn't know yet that I am making plans to get divorced (though she did tell me last night she was with the guy!). Lift and sidebar is legit advice, but I really do want to completely unfuck myself as much as possible and live on my own terms. Gotta lift today.
/r/MarriedRedPill01/01/19 05:17 PM
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I was like, you want one dude to pay, but you want to have sex with other dudes? And she was like, yeah that actually would be great! Fuck... she literally was turning me into beta bux. Never again!
/r/MarriedRedPill01/01/19 05:12 PM
1

I am on it. I first need to lift, get my finances in order, get divorced without her taking my $$. Being 31, and knowledgeable of game I should be able to get a few FWBs within the next year.
/r/MarriedRedPill01/01/19 05:09 PM
1

Yeah, I am 100% aware now, I just wish I had realized it sooner.
/r/MarriedRedPill01/01/19 05:08 PM
1

Yeah I didn't marry till year 3 of the relationship, but this is an important point. Originally, 5 years ago now, I was just looking for looks + DTF. Screening for getting laid is very very different from screening for a wife. You cant turn a hoe into a housewife!
/r/MarriedRedPill01/01/19 05:06 PM
14

God damnit that's accurate.
/r/MarriedRedPill01/01/19 12:15 PM
5

Yeah I failed at hard mode.
/r/MarriedRedPill01/01/19 12:13 PM
1

Being red-pilled started with PUA/game and Neil Strauss and Mystery and Tyler etc in my view.
/r/MarriedRedPill01/01/19 11:02 AM
1

Yeah I was gonna buy a house for christmas, but then I decided to get divorced on new years. And now I am back and re-engaging the gaming/pick up/redpill community like a real fucking divorced loser (when I should've been engaged all along!).
/r/MarriedRedPill01/01/19 11:01 AM
1

Solid advice. Paradoxically, the dudes who fuck the most women probably care the least about chasing pussy. I wasn't taking care of myself barely at all. My friends became few and far between and I barely lifted.
/r/MarriedRedPill01/01/19 10:59 AM
1

"Bitches don’t care too much about how smart you are. PHD can equal nerd. 126k a year is barely middle class. All that’s beta bucks anyway." PhD can also equal lots of intelligence applied to game. It's not that hard to be a 9.5 for some girls (not all!) if you know the game well enough. You just need to get your dick inside her quickly (within the first 2 days), fuck her like you're gonna die to tomorrow and voila - you're a 9.5. "Except, do you even lift? You are a small man, and it is hard to…
/r/MarriedRedPill01/01/19 10:56 AM
1

Hence why I am filing for divorce. Had I been more active months ago, perhaps I would still be filming my wife giving me BJ's on her knees with her tongue out
/r/MarriedRedPill01/01/19 10:47 AM
4

This is insane. Women have the right to choose wether or not they get pregnant. Men should atleast have the right to figure out if the child is theirs
/r/MensRights18/07/18 05:45 AM
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Read the paper - According to the authors, there was no sign that the black-sounding names (Jamal, Lakisha) evoked anything other than view of the race of the applicant. It wasn't related to class. Even though the resumes were identical to the ones with white sounding names (Emily). Bigotry from whites doesn't excuse bigotry against whites. But you seem more concerned with a sign than the fact racist white men are literally committing terrorism on a weekly basis and murdering people. I wonder wh…
/r/MensRights17/07/18 02:11 AM
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We have 20 people injured and one murdered by white male terrorists in Charlottesville, an openly racist president who is tearing toddlers away from Hispanic women in denial of due process, and black men getting publicly executed in the street by law enforcement. We have 8 black church goers murdered by a racist who wanted to start a race war. All in the past 2-3 years. And you're concerned by a single possibly fake sign? Fuck is wrong with you dude
/r/MensRights17/07/18 01:49 AM
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I show linked facts and peer reviewed literature, showing the clear oppression white dudes are committing against other people. And you rant about a possibly fake sign. Yeah dude tell me who's nuts.
/r/MensRights16/07/18 02:15 PM
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Source for the jobs one?
/r/MensRights16/07/18 02:05 PM
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Dude - you do know that white names get 50% greater call backs on identical resumes right? http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/mar/15/jalen-ross/black-name-resume-50-percent-less-likely-get-respo/ You do know that black defendants get 20% longer sentences jail for committing the same crime with similar criminal history as whites right? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/11/16/black-men-sentenced-to-more-time-for-committing-the-exact-same-crime-as-a-white-person-stu…
/r/MensRights16/07/18 07:22 AM
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What I have repeated like 4 times already: A sign that says "ban black men" is dangerous because whites in the USA could, if they wanted to, ban all black men. The opposite is not possible. Who has political power matters. Also white men have committed thousands of systematic acts of racially motivated terrorism against black people in the USA - backed by law enforcement, politicians, th judiciary, and complacent white populations. Who has political power matters. Therefore, you're argument is a…
/r/MensRights16/07/18 07:05 AM
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Your problem is one of false equivalency. Again: right wing terrorism in the USA is a serious problem. 70 murders since 2001. These are explicitly murders committed by white men who are radicalized by far right wing ideological lies. So threats of banning black people are backed up by murder. Banning white people signs, while wrong, are not equivalent.
/r/MensRights16/07/18 06:38 AM
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When feminist terrorists kill 70 dudes using guns then we talk about equivalence. Again: white male terrorism in the USA is so bad, the FBI has a department to counter it - they have murdered 70 people since 2001. No such thing exists for feminists cause they don't commit terrorism.
/r/MensRights16/07/18 06:26 AM
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When someone holds up a sign thay says "ban BLACKS" this is backed up by the fact that white men once sliced the fingers off black men, and then burned them alive in front of thousands, and then posed smiling in a post card with the charred remains and called it a barbeque: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_of_Jesse_Washington Thats not even that uncommon of a case. Those are facts my friend. A single white girl being a hater is not that scary. White male racist terrorists murdering 70 pe…
/r/MensRights16/07/18 06:07 AM
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First off - the sign might be fake. Second off: keep your panties on dude. Again: the vast majority of all economic and political power is held by white men in the USA. For that reason alone, I am not the worried about a sign. When 90% of Congress is women or 90% is black, let's talk.
/r/MensRights16/07/18 05:35 AM
1

This looks like mainly wrong statistics.
/r/MensRights16/07/18 05:05 AM
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I'm here from r/all. We are aware that the vast majority of senator, representatives, presidents, CEOs, federal judges, state judges, etc etc are white men right? And you guys are triggered by a sign at a protest? That's pretty weak. Also: the sign looks fake.
/r/MensRights16/07/18 04:58 AM
1

This is pretty cringey dude. As Drake always says: "Ima worry 'bout me, give fuck about you".
/r/MarriedRedPill03/06/18 09:25 PM
1

Unreadible. But at least you said she tried to give a BJ after 10 years so that's a sign of improvement
/r/MarriedRedPill07/05/18 02:34 PM
7

In my view it's both. They probably will think it's "sweet" that you feel guilty for saying you won't help them at that moment. They want you to be uber nice and generous and sensitive all kinds of other shit, but at the same time, be able to blast an intruder with a shotgun without hesitation, demand a higher salary at work, and wrap your hands around her neck/pull her hair hard while you fuck her. The "nice" part I fake but it comes off genuine, even though I have 0 guilt about literally every…
/r/MarriedRedPill15/01/18 07:57 PM
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If it feels like effort, then you’re not congruent, and women will pick up on it. Also, it’s not that hard to tell people “no” in my view. They will get over it, and you’re doing them a favor by being 100% true to yourself.
/r/MarriedRedPill15/01/18 06:44 PM
1

This story made my work day a little more amusing. Hah
/r/MarriedRedPill15/01/18 06:34 PM
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I feel like “holding a frame” implies there is effort being made. If my wife is bugging me to do chores and I don’t want to do them at that time, I simply say “No. I won’t be doing that right now. I’ll do it on my own time.” Sometimes I think women just want to bug you a bit to see if you’ll stand your ground.
/r/MarriedRedPill15/01/18 06:08 PM
1

I wonder what causes your wife to stick around? Is she bi? From what you’ve said she seems like a one convo away with her parents/family/close friends from realizing this is a bad scenario for her. You gotta pre empt that possibility, unless long term stability doesn’t mean anything and divorce next year is A-OK.
/r/MarriedRedPill10/01/18 07:06 AM
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