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Plus men outnumber men until late 40s (age 47 in the US). Women might be in their "prime" during their early twenties, but they still have a surplus of suitors until they hit perimenopause. And realistically speaking, most men/women date in similar age pools or with male slightly older. The average 40 year old man is going to find the average in-shape 35 year hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:46 PM
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I grew up with strong feminist messaging from family, media, friends, internet, academia, and the spaces I frequented. When you grow up hearing over and over again that men are vile, predatory, selfish, and disgusting you tend to internalize all of it. Even when it's prefaced with "of course except for youuuu". Because one day, I hit puberty and got a sex drive. I wanted sex, casual sex, dirty sex, sex without an emotional connection, etc, but that made me disgusting and a predator and part of t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/26 09:28 PM
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What if you found out that he was absolutely smitten with his ex? Like, far more than he's ever shown you. Maybe he proposed after 8 months, got her really nice gifts (far more expensive than whatever he got you for your past birthday), or brought her to the best restaurants and vacation destinations.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 07:23 PM
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The general population accepts that women are physically attracted to supermodels. There's no debate there. The whole discussion is about average men. That is, that an average 20 year old man who takes reasonable care of his body is barely going to bat an eye, whereas an average 20 year old woman who's never stepped foot in a gym is still going to turn heads.
/r/MensRights11/02/26 12:06 AM
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It's not easy (highly illegal in many places) and not a small price (can literally be an entire paycheck).
/r/MensRights10/02/26 11:59 PM
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And why does "women only like bad boys" have such a large element of truth (i.e., many, but not all, women are into men who actively disrespect them)?
/r/MensRights10/02/26 11:45 PM
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Vampires are usually wealthy, powerful in status, powerful physically, and charismatic. This includes those in Twilight.
/r/MensRights10/02/26 11:43 PM
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These things apply to men who are successful at hooking up and dating, which is a minority of men. There is a large chunk of men who are essentially invisible. These invisible men have the same exact problem but with the genders flipped: Too many men are out here rewarding women for low effort, accepting crumbs and calling it a buffet. These are called "nice guys". They shower women with attention, validation, effort, favors, and get crumbs of attention in return. The men in these situations are…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 07:29 PM
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Hard disagree. Many people with huge insecurities and emotional (anger) issues are set off by clear rejection. Clear rejection happens over the course of 1 minute. To them it feels like a personal attack and gives them something clear to be mad at. Ghosting also sucks for them (like it does for everyone), but it's smooth and full of doubt. Excuse style rejection is similarly smooth and full of doubt. For clarification, "smooth" here doesn't mean that it's kind or desirable, but instead just mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 07:03 PM
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It is the 21st century, after all. Wanting love, validation, and reciprocal attraction is peak insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 06:44 PM
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And if a man is confident despite real negative consequences, then he's arrogant. So confidence = being highly desirable and knowing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 04:06 PM
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A man in an emotionally abusive relationship is the man's fault for not standing up for himself. A woman taking advantage of a man is the man's fault for not having boundaries. Women control academia from birth until adulthood, but male children's underperformance in school is the male children's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 07:55 PM
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In my experience, the women who are the biggest proponents of pretty privileged are those without it. Which makes sense. People like to believe that they're in control of their outcomes, especially positive outcomes. It's similar to how hedge fund kids overestimate how much of their success was from their own hard work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 08:12 PM
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Autism is literally a disorder of those hundreds of thousands of years of evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:45 PM

ITT: Real men don't get abused 😤
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:22 PM
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Why is it up to the man to define the relationship or ask for more? If a woman wants more, she is equally obliged to communicate this and set boundaries and timelines for herself, instead of relying on the arbitrary timelines of another individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:04 PM
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No, the terms are different. 'FB' and 'FWB' both imply mutuality. Both people agreed to it and are (initially) happy with the arrangement. Whereas 'situationship' usually carries connotations of hurt feelings and one-sided feelings. Situationships are almost exclusively used by people with bad communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 05:56 PM
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"Situationship" is a term people with bad communication use. People with good communication communicate their expectations and desires and ask about the other party's expectations and desires. They then mutually agree to be fuck buddies, friends with benefits, or romantic partners. Only someone with bad communication would go months wondering what's going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 05:50 PM
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Always assume "man bad" or "man did something to deserve it". It's just a rule of the internet. Sorry bud, I don't make 'em.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 09:59 PM
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I've known men who do just about everything for their partners. Literally scheduling and reminding them about doctor's appointments for them. Helped clean their apartment even though they lived in their own. Complete dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 08:31 PM
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A ton of men try choreplay to no avail. Some women will literally get resentful if men do too much for them. It's lose-lose for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 08:27 PM
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Not only that, but male sexual attractiveness is competitive in nature. If everyone looked 99.9% like Chris Hemsworth, there would still be a few incredibly popular men, a lot of average men, and a chunk of incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 08:15 PM
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Many women are/were sluts because of emotional issues, not because they genuinely wanted sex. And, sure, the sleeping around might go away, but the emotional issues often remain. It's similar to how not all police officers are douchbags, but a large enough percent of them are where I wouldn't want to date one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 07:48 PM
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It's similar to a FWB catching feelings and then being unable to continue with the status quo. More people are able to emotionally compress (and eventually move on) in order to keep a friendship, but that doesn't invalidate that there are instances where some cannot. To understand why some men break off friendships, first ask yourself why do women break off FWBs when they catch feelings, even if they are genuinely good friends and have quality sex that always leads to orgasms?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 07:25 PM
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It's similar to a FWB catching feelings and then being unable to continue with the status quo. More people are able to emotionally compress (and eventually move on) in order to keep a friendship, but that doesn't invalidate that there are instances where some cannot. Why do women break off FWB relationships when they catch feelings, even if they are genuinely good friends and have quality sex? Ending a FWB because of unrequited feelings is not an "I'm unhappy for you", and neither is ending a fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 07:22 PM
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It's similar to a FWB catching feelings and then being unable to continue with the status quo. More people are able to emotionally compress (and eventually move on) in order to keep a friendship, but that doesn't invalidate that there are instances where some cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 07:16 PM
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I struggle to orgasm every time I drink. I'm still incredibly horny and down to have sex though!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 06:53 PM
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People tend not to realize that women are statistically much more varied in their sexualities than men for many criteria. Reading through the comments.... Yes, there are visually stimulated women! But on average, men are far more likely to be visually stimulated. Yes, some women have stable libidos! But on average, men are far more likely to not see a drop in libido in their relationships (and this extends to gay and lesbian couples, indicating that gender plays a large component on average). Ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 06:47 PM
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It's wild that a slightly larger dating pool (only 5% larger(!)) supposedly means that they're significantly more likely to cheat. By this very logic a hot straight person is much, much, much, much, much more likely to cheat, since in-practice they have a significantly larger pool of potential partners than uglier people. And then also by this logic, women are far more likely to cheat since women generally have a larger pool of willing men to have sexual relations with than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 04:36 PM
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Women love power and dominance. Men love looks. A bisexual women is still hot by every metric by a heterosexual or bisexual man. A bisexual man is automatically "less of a man" and thus less attractive by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 04:54 PM
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Instead it'll be stated as a sweeping generalization towards men. "Don't date men." "Men are pigs." "Men suck." ^ Actual things women said and agreed with in social settings with men and women. Interestingly, it was considered socially acceptable and none of the 8+ guys in the group said anything about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 12:50 PM
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"Husband material" is often a backhanded insult, since it's often used to refer to guys who are kind, stable, and a safe bet for marriage, but not charismatic and hot enough for a hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 12:29 PM

Likewise, there are some aspects of female sexuality that make me less interested in marriage. Some common examples I have noticed: - Hysterical bonding/anxious attachment libidos. Essentially, the better the relationship is going and the more attentive the man, the lower the libido she has for him. Surprisingly common among women. - Only having a high libido during the honeymoon period. Feels disingenuous -- almost like a subconscious bait-and-switch tactic. - Being wild and super sexual for a …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 07:45 PM
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I mean it's both. I have definitely heard women complain about both. In the specific case of situationships, it's hard to sympathize. Situationships are invariably a case of bad communication. People with good communication always end up in relationships or with FWB/FBs, but I never hear them talking about 'situationships'. But I'd say the majority of jaded women are jaded from relationships, rather than situationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 06:57 PM
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You're once again being (intentionally, probably) obtuse. To quote my original comment: The same way that someone can be obtuse and argue that all sex must be "equal" because, by definition, both people had sex. In the same vein, relationships and courting can very much be one-sided. I'm not even saying that most men are in relationships are like that, nor that only men experience this dynamic. I'm literally just explaining how time spent can be one-sided. I see no point in trying to continue a …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 06:41 PM
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It truly is a difference in sexualities. Men, who are notorious for "selfish sex", interestingly have no orgasm gap when having sex with other men. Once we as a society accept that women are, on average, naturally pickier and harder to turn on (and that's okay), the sooner these silly gender wars will end :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 06:27 PM
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The core difference is that almost all women do it for most men, and almost all men do it for most men, but only a small fraction of men do it for most women. The concept is the same, but due to other differences it appears different at a glance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 06:14 PM
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Absolutely true! The problem is that, generally speaking, women are attracted to a small percentage of men. A young woman can wear the fashion equivalent of a potato sack, and have the earnings potential of a small potato farm, and have the personality of a potato, and still end up with a half decent man without trying. He won't be the most attractive, rich, exciting, or charismatic, but he'll have a stable middle class job and low amounts of drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:12 PM
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While I agree that men also treat attractive people better and let them get away with more stuff, I think you chose the worst possible example. Notoriously, men often have few restraints when it comes to sleeping with women, in the sense that a very large chunk of men will sleep with anyone. Rules such as "don't stick your dick in crazy" are idioms precisely because men often need to remind themselves to practice cognition and restraint when there is an opportunity to have sex. That is, their gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:06 PM
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Attractive people get better treatment? No shit. Straight men simp for attractive women all the time. And attractive women get away with a lot of stuff because of it. (The average young woman is far, far, far more likely to be 'attractive' than the average man, but that's a different discussion.) Even straight men have different rules for attractive and charismatic men. Attractive men are more likely to get raises, more likely to get invited to stuff, etc by other straight men. It's not a gender…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 03:46 PM
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This screams "just world fallacy". I've known many hard working guys who were shy, dorky, genuine men who managed to build a bit of wealth over many years, and ended up getting used by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 03:39 PM
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Obviously with such an intentionally obtuse and literal perspective it can be seen as "equal". The same way that someone can be obtuse and argue that all sex must be "equal" because, by definition, both people had sex. Clearly what's being discussed is time (and energy) spent for something that primarily benefits one party. For example, time spent being an emotional tampon, time spent listening to someone rant about their problems, time spent on a date that is focused on making one partner happy…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 03:36 PM
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Oh, sweet summer child.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 03:21 PM
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The replies to your comment: #NotAllWomen 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 03:18 PM
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And it's that "you have to come to my terms or we'll never have sex again" that makes it feel like manipulation. High libido partner + low libido partner almost always leads to these types of power dynamics and feelings of resentment. Women are far more likely to have their libidos tank because of relationship issues, and men are far more likely to sustain a constant libido, and thus heterosexual relationships are basically doomed to frequently have this issue. Also, the relationship issue doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 01:01 PM
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Absolutely. As well as a culture of denying emotional immaturity and toxic behavior in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 01:25 PM
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Not OP, but I would say it's definitely not 'exactly' the same. Analogous, sure. So very few men would be 'used' for sex. The fact that OP is suggesting this is hilarious. But men do get used for free attention, dates, and dinners. I've had matches on dating apps pick out a spot and then demand I buy tickets. Many girls will go on dates with guys they're not serious about just to satiate their boredom, or tease them and keep them as orbiters for the attention (there are guys who can't take a hin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:09 PM
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Haha definitely a universally experienced barrier. Any barriers unique to women that you experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 05:52 PM
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Yeah, it's a tough dilemma for a lot of young men. Be partnered and have sex, or reject gender norms and essentially reject sex. Hormones + spontaneous sexual desire means a lot of young men will choose conforming and chasing tail.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 05:48 PM
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Yours might be an exception, but the overwhelming majority of heterosexual relationships are initiated by the man. Most men simply don't get approached by women, and most of the ones that do, don't get approached often. Meaning they wouldn't have enough options where 'vetting' would be a suitable tactic. (Approaching is dead in the sense that 63% of men aged 18-29 in the US are single, since men increasingly do not approach anymore.)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 05:43 PM
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Given how explicitly transactional sex bots are, these men would probably see it as more 'fair'. Working towards a sex bot (i.e., earning enough money) would be a tangible goal that even poor, socially awkward, or disabled men could work towards. Bots will also (presumably) be infinity customizable, so there wouldn't be a need for variety, since you've already got it The reason these men right now are offended by rich men having more options is that men are told in the 21st century that dating w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:53 PM

A real alpha rolls around in his M4 Sherman tank to prevent the threat of knives and bullets. If you didn't know this, then clearly you're not alpha enough for OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:42 PM
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Oh gosh, I've been confused and I thought you were replying to the top level comment. The whole time I thought you were objecting to thinking someone is physically attractive and then approaching someone to get to know their personality. Yeah, OP has a poor viewpoint. Terribly sorry about that!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:22 PM
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Some, probably. But most, probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:10 PM
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Perfect, no, but very, very close. This is what people mean when they say "realistic sex bots and AI girlfriends can’t come soon enough". Will it ever be as good as a human? No, but it can get really close, and that's why it's such a yearned for fantasy :) A sex bot would have AI integrated in it and would be able to move. Something out of Bladerunner, essentially. Sex dolls is what we currently have. AI is pretty damn close to being realistic though! There are a lot of people (mostly women, bel…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:04 PM
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A very ironic statement, because I never said "compete". I said "chase" [meaning here "carry less genetic information and go toward/be brought toward the large gamete to provide genetic diversity"] I think I am going to go insane. You literally wrote (and I quoted twice): The male sex literally pursues [emphasis added] because that is the whole reason sperm exists Your reading comprehension skills are terrible. Not only that, but your statements are once again wrong. Sperm carries the same amoun…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 06:50 PM
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It goes both ways. In some cases it mutual. Sometimes the passport bro is the one taking advantage. The other person is heavily at risk of abuse, but not always. Sometimes the passport bro is the one taken advantage of. The other party is looking for easy cash and/or a visa and preys on lonely individuals. This actually happens with both genders, believe it or not. Often the man or women already has a family and spouse and is explicitly looking to screw over the other party. Some of them will ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 06:09 PM
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Even if that's the case with seahorses, your original statement was "[t]he male sex literally pursues because that is the whole reason sperm exists". Which is factually wrong, since sperm predates animals. Plants are thus just as relevant to the discussion as animals. An exception does doesn't make a rule, but it absolutely casts doubt on whether the rule is correct. Clearly plants do not abide by the rule "motile sperm was developed for, and has the implication for, males to pursue", and there'…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 05:49 PM
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Yes, transactions can be mutual -- that was never contested nor brought up. My point is that just about everything can be considered transactional, which your usage of the word implies, and this reduces the meaning to something trivial and pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 05:30 PM
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I 100% agree, but I am also going to stess that neither are male sexual preferences fine-tuned to select the best overall male. "Best" is, of course, highly subjective, but even if everyone agreed on some wholesome definition, my point would still stand. Men famously are attracted to youthfulness and visuals. As a result, many men end up simping for or actually dating beautiful women who are horrible people, emotionally unstable, cheaters, unavailable, or have no self-accountability. Analogous t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 05:26 PM
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I could say the same about your original comment. "Yes, and?" The blanket statement that people are doing what they can, and advice is idiotic is such a cop out response because it's neither constructive nor insightful.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 04:11 PM
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The male sex literally pursues because that is the whole reason sperm exists. Although generally correlated in animals, motility of the sperm does not innately imply that the organism as a whole is 'pursuing' their mate. Sperm exists for sexual reproduction, which again does not innately imply competition. The reason the sexual dimorphism arose between sex cells is that smaller cells are more mobile and larger cells are more functional and more conductive for growth. Many species of plants do no…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 03:56 PM
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Ironically, the men who don't care about women's safety or well-being would be the ones to keep approaching women. Leading to a paradoxially worse situation for women because they (still) wouldn't approach men and most of their dating options would then be raging douchebags.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 03:33 PM
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How is trying to get to know someone transactional? Is that not, in every literal sense, the point of dating? The word 'transactional' is so overused and overloaded that it has basically lost its meaning and impact.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 03:30 PM
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Yes, and in order to do that, you have to approach them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 03:26 PM
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Sex bots don't really exist quite yet. I am admittedly out of the loop on them, but to my knowledge they're currently just sex dolls with a moving part or two and the voicebox of a Furby. And AI girlfriends are still not quite good enough yet. They're pretty good, don't get me wrong, but every once in a while they mess up and even when they're not clearly messing up their speech and thought patterns have a fakeness to them that ruins the experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 03:25 PM
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If women accept dates and have kids with shitty and abusive men, then clearly that's the strategy they think is best and who am I to tell them otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 03:18 PM
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Two things: For 99% of men, this would lead to no sex and no relationships. We have already conditioned a massive percentage of men to not approach and chase women. Here's the problem: The men who follow these rules are kind and well-meaning guys who eventually become Nice Guys once they realize they're getting absolutely no action. The men who are douchebags and do not care about women's comfort in the dating world, are going to approach women anyways. So counterintuitively by trying to make th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 03:13 PM
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I agree that people doing this is shitty. It sounds like you had a bad experience with the kissing guy. My condolences. And the hot guy who sexually abused his FWB via unconsentual nudes, that's just awful. The dude keeping the spreadsheet is absolutely bizarre and that's the first time I've heard of that level of depravity, but it sounds like a pretty rare occurrence. Maybe not though? I'm saying this because my experience in the workforce wasn't just a one or two person thing. It was at least …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 03:37 PM
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100%. Even for people outside of fashion, it's pretty common knowledge that heroin chic was in in the 90s and curvy is in now. And that every decade seemingly had a different ideal body type. And that every culture had different ideal body type. Even in the US there is/was a big disconnect between different racial groups. (And the 2000s were like athletic surfer build, so 25 years ago would've been skinny no matter if they were going for the 90s look or 2000s look.)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 09:48 PM
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You're really digging yourself deeper with each example you give "There are women who are happy with the boyfriends they settled with. They weren't attractive in a way their ideal partner would be, but they made up for it in other ways." <-- is how your latest example reads. I get what point you're trying to make, but the execution was very far off =]
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 09:38 PM
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From this Wikipedia article: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coolidge_effect The original experiments with rats applied the following protocol: A male rat was placed into an enclosed large box with four or five female rats in heat.[13] He immediately began to mate with all the female rats repeatedly until he eventually became exhausted.[13] The females continued nudging and licking him, yet he did not respond.[13] When a novel female was introduced into the box, he became alert and began to mate…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 03:38 PM

Keeping a list, yeah women don't really do that. But telling everyone who'll listen about every detail about their most recent partner? I've worked in female dominated spaces and girl let me tell you I knew everything about some of these girls' partners and hookups. Their likes, dislikes, insecurities, penis size, experience, hairiness, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 03:32 PM

Because females want the highest quality sperm donors and males just want impregnate as many partners as possible. This is true for virtually every sexually reproducing non-monogamous animal. Females: "Why have sex with some average male when you can have sex with the best?" Males: "Why not have sex with all of them?" Interestingly, seahorses have flipped gender roles, and we see female sea horses take a much more aggressive and promiscuous approach to sex, and male seahorses take a choosier rol…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 03:27 PM

So I've worked in both male and female dominated spaces. In the male dominated spaces I never once heard my coworkers talk about intimacy. If I ever heard about sex, it was either another coworker teasing them or talked about in a more hand wavey generic way. (I think a lot of men don't like other men imagining their sexual partners, so avoid it as much as possible.) Half of them I didn't even know if they had partners or if they were single. In the female dominated spaces I knew just about ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 03:16 PM

Wilde's quote is about literature, not real life, hon.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 03:00 PM
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I have noticed the men who constantly bitch about single moms are single themselves Wow! People who date and find xyz annoying about dating tend to be single. Whowuddaguessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:58 PM
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I think we're on a different page about what "direct interaction" means. For example: Where I live unemployment salary and food benefits can be used 100% without ever speaking to someone. Fill out form online and submit documention > get approved > get direct deposit > use government credit card to purchase food at self-checkout. Not a single human interacted with directly. Yes, other people had to grow food, pay taxes, run the shop, etc, but that's not direct interaction. Sex work is inherently…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 07:22 PM
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Sex is a human right in some municipalities in the Netherlands. Disabled people can get the government to specifically pay for sex work up to 12 times per year. (In other municipalities, there is no welfare or healthcare specifically for sex work, but sex work is legal and there aren't restrictions to using welfare for sex work. But to my knowledge, there are areas that specifically help with sex work as a form of mental healthcare.)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 07:12 PM
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Food is a right is almost all developed nations. If you can't afford it, it will be given to you Scott free. Almost all of these nations will force people to buy their own food if they make enough money, however. In fact pretty much everything that is 100% necessary for basic survival is guaranteed by most developed nations. So I'd say that food was a very poor choice for an example, but otherwise it is true that generally all other resources and property is not guaranteed as a right. Interestin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:57 PM
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The difference is that love and sex require two people directly. All the other things involve other people/society, but in an indirect way. Love especially is something you cannot pay for. Interestingly, though, a few countries in Western Europe have made sex a human right, and will pay for sex professionals to help severely handicapped individuals experience what they otherwise would not be able to experience. Under the purview that sexuality is important for mental health and that health is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:23 PM
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If heterosexual people are attracted to the opposite sex, and not the performance, then why would they ever end up with a trans person in the first place? And why don't they date post-op trans people of the same gender? By your logic, a decidedly straight man should have no problems dating a muscular and hairy transman with a 7" cock.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 12:49 PM
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The infamous "dick sticks" attitude: Bi-men are secretly gay and bi-women are actually straight but doing it for attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 12:45 PM
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As a bisexual male, I wholeheartedly agree. In my experiences there aren't as many repercussions towards being emotionally open or "feminine" when dating men. The gender standards are different when pursuing men vs pursuing women. When pursuing men, you have to look good. When pursuing women, you have an emotional role to play. In one of them, there's pressure to mask your skin. In the other one there's pressure to mask your identity. This is, of course, a bit of an oversimplification of reality…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 02:37 AM
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And a lot of men who subscribe to this kind of thinking are the biggest complainers about the male loneliness epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 02:30 AM
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"Just be yourself bro."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 03:42 PM
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Or the fact that their audiences are niche, oftentimes teenagers and prepubescent women. Not at all "normie women" which is the topic of this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 03:38 PM
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Not all men get close to their friends though. A lot of men will have a few friends they keep for a very long time, but aren't actually emotionally close with. Two women who've been bffs for five month probably knows more about each other than two men who've been "close friends" for five years. Sure, there's a level of trust and camaraderie between the men, but men can still feel super alone in these friendships because of their lack of emotional closeness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 03:28 PM
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In my experience as a bisexual man, women inderd do a lot more trauma dumping and ranting than men. Maybe it's different for gay men, I don't know. What I do know is that my experiences validate the stereotypes of "don't try to solve her problems, she just wants someone to listen" and conversely "he needs time alone". I will say I haven't really experienced the stereotype of "men don't want to open up" too much with other men, and it's probably because gay men tend to be a bit more emotionally o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 03:21 PM
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I agree that concerts are pretty awkward and boring. You pay $150 to stand there either shoulder-to-shoulder or high up in some bleachers, and in both cases the music is way too loud and the stage is way too far away to see anything. Not that much is going on onstage anyways. And I agree that hitting on women in any place except OLD is considered creepy nowadays. But I disagree with most of everything else: We don't have a chip on our shoulder and we can't be provoked or goaded into doing anythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:49 PM
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Well, yeah. If men get murdered by other men, then they are not getting murdered because they are men. If this "oppression" is only caused by people in their own group, then it's not oppression based on their group. The men are getting murdered for reasons other than the fact that they are men. Black Americans have the highest murder rate in America. Black Americans are overwhelmingly killed by other Black Americans. White and Asian men in America are more likely to be murdered by Black men than…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 05:42 PM
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It doesn't capture the story precisely because it's a fantasy built upon a just-world hypothesis. The reality is: There are things beyond people's control. Sex is a two person activity, and requires two people to want it. You cannot control other people. Just think about it. If you overheard the advice that "if you just went to the gym and became attractive, then they would be entitled to have sex with your crush", you would probably laugh and get angry at the ridiculousness and entitlement of t…
/r/RedPillWomen25/05/25 03:35 PM
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Very well put together, but there's one very, very, very crucial oversight: Active bedrooms take two people to maintain. Ultimately, you can't control how someone else will think and act. You can influence other people, but you can never control them. You can make all the effort in the world, fully believe in yourselves, go to the gym regularly, dress smartly, groom well, be initiative, eat well, be playful and flirtatious, live a fullfilling and active life, do a lot for your partner, and still…
/r/RedPillWomen25/05/25 03:25 PM
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They "suddenly" won't because they're not sexually attracted to men. Homosexual hookups risk STIs at a far greater rate than heterosexual hookups. Sure heterosexual hookups risk pregnancy, but pregnancies can be terminated. HIV and cancer (a risk unique to anal transmission of certain STIs) cannot. Yet the average gay male will end up with 9x the number of sexual partners than the average straight man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 05:46 PM
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the majority do {{Citation needed}} Compare it to gay culture. The average gay man can get a hookup in less than a hour. The average gay man will end up with around 7-9 times the number of sexual partners as the average straight man. (I'll probably die saying this, but heterosexuality is proof that homosexuality is not a choice.) You need to reword you entire post and make it point out that "women" rather than "anyone" are difficult to have sex with and tend to view sex as special.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 11:55 PM
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Oh thor almighty, how romantic. "Babe, I didn't actually want them as boyfriends. They were hotter and sexier than you and were better at making me cum -- I only wanted to bang them! I want to settle with you :)"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 12:57 PM
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Even for women it's bad. The men getting tons of likes and attention (important note: and staying on the apps) are often guys who aren't serious and are fine using manipulation tactics to pump-and-dump women. Girls go out with a bunch of guys like that, and now they think every guy is like that, and they end up exhausted and resentful towards dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 12:30 PM
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It's a double edged sword though. There ends up being this dehumanizing mentality of "there's always someone better" and that any mistake or personality flaw is an instant "Next!". Not only does it suck the human component out of dating, but it instills this perfectionist mindset in people where they're never enough and never will be enough, and neither are others. The guys getting likes online, of course, are often not serious about dating, and instead just cruise through women with the same ol…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 12:21 PM
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They're not contradictory. Responsive desire is a thing.
/r/ExRedPill24/04/25 09:38 PM
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Yeah her stuff is batshit crazy. All her videos just blame women for everything. There is a lot of redpill content that actually makes an effort to be objective, but her videos are so overtly redpilled that I feel like you'd have to be in a really low point or neck deep in the mindset to not want to puke. Pretty scary to think that she's got such a huge audience.
/r/ExRedPill24/04/25 09:34 PM
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Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Most of the people who agree with OP's post, will probably turn around and tell these men to "make more female friends" or "do hobbies with women and try befriending them" or "try being friends first, instead of cold approach". Again, damned if they do, damned if they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:01 PM
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Not OP, but I imagine it's the same as white people who like Asians, vs white people who don't like Asians. White people who like Asians simply treat them as they would any other group of people with their own problems, successes, etc.
/r/MensRights10/04/25 02:07 PM
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Men suffer from emotional abuse -- they are Nice Guys who deserve it for being Nice Guys. It's their fault really for not standing up for themselves.
/r/MensRights09/04/25 01:16 PM
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White people don’t want blacks to silently accept anything… We want you to acknowledge it and then prove us wrong by being the “good” person you claim to be. Instead, a lot of you just whine and cry about how, “it’s not me… not my fault“ as though just because you personally never subjugated or abused a white person, that means it never happened on a mass scale. A good way to spot sexism is to replace the genders with races, and see how it reads.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:59 AM
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The general population definitely doesn't agree on the merits of dating and hooking up with autistic men. The majority of studies indicate that autistic men have fewer and lower quality experiences (and autistic women have lower quality experiences): https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5789215/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 11:14 PM
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I agree with everything except that it's from wealth inequality. I'd argue instead that the core issues are a natural consequence of technology. Poorer countries (looking specifically at Latin American countries and the Philippines, since those are the places I'm most intimately familiar with) with incredibly high levels of income inequality didn't start seeing these dating issues until technology became affordable enough to cause massive cultural shifts. Third spaces didn't disappear until peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 11:13 PM
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Agreed. There's a certain kind of person who find trouble wherever they go. Their coworkers are always toxic, their exes always suck, their friendships are filled with drama. When they're male they're often called 'Nice Guys', but when they're female they're usually called victims. There are many, many women who aren't "ideal" in superficial senses that have wonderful partners. Just as there are many men who aren't 6', rich, handsome, etc that have wonderful partners. After a certain point it be…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 10:29 PM
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Yup! There lots of reasons why such a man would stop doing those things. Similar to how a woman might become less sexually active and adventurous. I might have to ask him why. I think this is the most mature and honest response to this. Many people on reddit would suggest that your partner's sexual/romantic history is none of your business, but clearly the curiosity to ask would still there when you inevitably find out, no? I should think most people would react the same way. I think the curiosi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 06:37 PM
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Maybe your partner cooks steaks and lobster for you, and that's enough for you, but what if you found out that So you lack the empathy and active processing to consider a hypothetical. Got it. Question for the ladies, if you found out your well-to-do man used to get his partner lavish gifts, cook gourmet meals, and never let her touch a bill... So the original post you responded to never actually applied to you. But you still chose to respond to it. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 08:51 PM
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Gourmet dinners/lavish gifts and poor behavior are two extremes of two completely different concepts. A partner can be "just enough" in terms of effort and generosity and still not have poor behavior. Maybe your partner cooks steaks and lobster for you, and that's enough for you, but what if you found out that he routinely took his exes to dine in Michelin starred restaurants, to lavish resorts in exotic locations, and even bought one of them a Lexus for their 4 year anniversary? It's okay to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 07:31 PM

The ones who don't care, will never care no matter how much you "communicate". So what you're saying is... communicating will explicitly inform the men who do care and weed out the men who are immature/don't care/want to masturbate with your body? Shouldn't that be a pro-communication argument then?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 05:59 PM

Video games come with tutorials, practice mode, are easily accessible, and you can repeat strategies over and over again if they work.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 05:47 PM

Wait until you're emotionally invested before you find out you're sexually incompatible? Sounds irresponsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 05:44 PM

Women will say it in here as nauseam. This 100%! There's a lot of shame here for men seeking casual sex (either fuck-buddies or one-night stands) and it usually gets some type of "sex is better and more plentiful in relationships anyways". It's very validating to have this as a phenomenon acknowledged.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 05:37 PM

Is a man justified in complaining about a lack of sex if he doesn't talk to his partner about the lack of sex in a relationship? No to both, in my opinion. Adults are responsible for themselves. People (especially partners) should care for others and be initiative and attempt to help out, but it is ultimately the other adult who is responsible for speaking up and responsible when they do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 05:28 PM

Facts! I genuinely believe this type of prevalent attitude on Reddit is pushing a lot of young, inexperienced men to become Nice Guys. They constantly see this message of "please your partner by putting them first" and "terrible men" over and over again and they end up becoming people pleasers, which of course backfires on them. I even saw a post from a women who explicitly listed "obsesses over making me orgasm" as a red flag about finding casual sex partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 05:27 PM

Not all women lie 24/7 about orgasming. Some women are honest and some women cum easily. I imagine women with casual sex partners don't have much incentive to lie about enjoying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 05:25 PM

I've been on dates with women where I told them I was inexperienced and not sure how to navigate sex, initiating kissing, etc, and they all seem to get turned off. One of them even straight up told me that "[they're] not interested in giving [me] a fucking anatomy lesson". So I understand u/Mauf066 is trying to convey when he says that women are attracted to a man who "just gets it". I don't think I've ever seen a women say on Reddit (in posts asking women about how to turn them on, what they li…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 05:12 PM
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And that's almost exactly OP's point isn't it? Men will get called out for being 'losers' a lot easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:15 PM
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In certain aspects. For dating, sex, and certain social aspects, 100%. What a lot of guys want, is not for women to sell themselves short, but rather just to feel validated in their struggles :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:07 PM

Gay and bisexual men have by far the most number of sexual partners out of any gender/sexuality. Far, far, far more than het or lesbian women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:37 PM
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"Why do men always mistake niceness from women for romantic or sexual interest?"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:23 PM
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Women are also far more likely to be demisexual and graysexual. And have lower libidos, on average. If my libido was lower and intermittent, I'd be a lot happier with just friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 11:14 PM
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Wow, I guess I've just gotten very unlucky then.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:27 PM
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Are these regularly occurring or a few times a year? The small-but-weekly meetups in DC , Atlanta, Tamp, and Orlando I've been to have all been male dominated. Even the less nerdy ones (casual board game socials, rock climbing, trash pick-up, kickball, volleyball) were also male dominated. When I took dance lessons for ~2 years it was roughly a 3:1 ratio among the people under 30. Maybe I've just been unlucky in this regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 12:56 PM
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Yep, frequently left out of these types of posts is the need to be socially aggressive. Someone who "looks good, is positive, friendly, and has a smile on their face" is a Nice Guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 06:18 AM
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Added there needs to be a bit of aggressiveness 100% This is something that Reddit loves to leave out. Someone who is good, positive, friendly, and smiling would be a Nice Guy in a different post.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 06:05 AM
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They tend to be (or at least the ones I go to) overwhelmingly male dominated.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 05:48 AM
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Few women in my social circles. My hobbies tend to be solo or male dominated. I also have autism, so I struggle with the "act normal and can converse" part (with everyone, not just women). I put a lot of effort at looking good, being positive, friendly and having a smile on my face, but it tends to attract attention from men much more often than from women. So that's what I tend to go with, despite preferring women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 05:38 AM
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Traditional conservatism is the enemy of men, I have been saying that for a very long time. That would make you quite the feminist by the popular attitude among modern tradcons and feminists (the actual ones, not the ones on youtube). It would be nice if they didn't come to us about their bad boyfriends or ex's. That is really not our business. It's not all women but I also don't think that's limited to tradwomen, either. Like I said before, there's nothing wrong with talking to your SO and frie…
/r/MensRights28/03/23 12:41 PM
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It's fine to complain/talk about your feelings/etc to your partner. In fact, that's a good thing to do. What's wrong is bottling everything up and dumping it all on the women in your life because you feel like you can't discuss your issues with your so-called best friends. What's wrong is the pressure that men should be tough and emotionless. This pressure comes from tradwomen and tradmen. Feminists don't deny that they share their feeling and complain to the men in their lives. The feminist nar…
/r/MensRights27/03/23 06:55 PM
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Most of the feminists I've met don't mock men for having feelings. They condemn men who depend on the women in their life as therapists. Women have always had their huge support networks, but it's time that bros get better at supporting fellow bros
/r/MensRights22/03/23 11:43 AM
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"Incel violence". This is something I've never understood. Incels are probably one of the population of peoples least likely to abuse women. Less than fellow women, even. Wanting women to consensually desire them but not being around women is kinda their thing. (And then saying shitty things online.) The overwhelming majority of violence and abuse towards women is perpetuated by domestic partners. And mass shootings by incels are incredibly rare in America, especially when you scale it for the 3…
/r/MensRights22/03/23 01:39 AM
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It literally goes against the "sex shouldn't be transactional" teaching. Sometimes, what is really meant is "sex shouldn't be transactional unless it benefits women"
/r/MensRights22/03/23 01:28 AM
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I was raised that way as well. It doesn't help that everywhere a young man looks he only encounters the world telling him he's a misogynistic, perverted, entitled freak and that everything is secretly his fault.
/r/MensRights22/03/23 01:07 AM
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Sounds a lot like what the feminists in places like r/AskWomen preach. There's a lot of toxicity and misandry over there, so be warned, but there's also a lot of good stuff. Such as men needing to get better at being empathetic and emotionally open with other men, and not shaming them.
/r/MensRights22/03/23 12:59 AM
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"Actual pain" is purely mental. That's how pain works. Tiredness, anxiety, pain, isnomnia, lower immune system are symptoms of sex abstinence: https://webmd.com/sex/ss/slideshow-effects-stop-sex
/r/MensRights22/03/23 12:44 AM
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