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Social Issuesbotfiddler/r/MensRights23/07/22 12:47 PM
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Well, too bad. I don't agree. Also, there no other solution.
/r/AntiFeminists30/01/23 08:24 AM
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Many warn about these apps, they only work for for maximum 20 percent of the guys, maybe only for less than 10 percent.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/23 10:15 PM
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Yes.
/r/AntiFeminists29/01/23 09:41 PM
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Alexander Grace recommends getting into clubs, circles and hobbies where you can get to know women over a longer period of time, before you make your move and show interest.
/r/AntiFeminists29/01/23 07:39 PM
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Life isn't that expensive, if the woman doesn't spend too much.
/r/AntiFeminists29/01/23 07:36 PM
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Statistically this can't work, if more and more men compete for a subset of women. Going to poorer countries for entertainment is one thing, but I would like my child to look like me and my people (sirens going off). Anti-feminists need to work on a way to make singe fatherhood possible and affordable for middle income class men, using bought egg cells, surrogates and maybe a nanny (later a robowaifu or -nanny).
/r/AntiFeminists29/01/23 07:34 PM
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That's nice, but statistically not possible for everyone. For those who can, it comes with a high price, I guess. Also you still have the same rights.
/r/AntiFeminists29/01/23 07:29 PM
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Society doesn't own us. Women don't care about society, governments and "journalists" gave into their demands, but we're still supposed to care? Then we would be suckers. Don't be a sucker. Collapse is the future, let's see who and what comes out on the other side. Oh, it's Turbo Kid.
/r/AntiFeminists29/01/23 07:24 PM
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Yeah, but preferably in poor countries. Otherwise, even the sex workers will be arrogant and taking higher and higher prices. Have a doll and watch porn while young, save your money, retire or semi-retire early, move to a cheap place with cheap real estate, low capital gains tax. Maybe also with cheap sex workers, or be a passport bro for some month a year if you want to, but with a robowaifu at home.
/r/AntiFeminists29/01/23 05:23 PM
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saying “work on yourself, Feminists? The dating coaches acting like they are "the Redpill" and many fake or delusional conservatives doing the same thing, ignorant boomers as well, ...
/r/AntiFeminists29/01/23 05:17 PM
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This is partially about demographics, more and more men competing about younger women, also the attention they can get online, and therefore it won't end. At least not till we have synthetic girlfriends (/robowaifus), or some extreme social breakdown. In the later case you would be well adviced not to help them. You can choose between calling yourself MGTOW and cut down on your efforts, or as being involuntary maidenless and lonely. Porn, geomaxxing, sex tourism, companion dolls, ..., plus other…
/r/AntiFeminists29/01/23 05:12 PM
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This wouldn't work out very well for women and probably the demographics of some minorities. Which is why this doesn't even upset me. Zero chance of going to happen.
/r/MensRights21/01/23 05:53 PM
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He will love his robowaifu.
/r/MensRights17/01/23 09:12 PM
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I should at least have been delayed until we have synthetic girlfriends and robowaifus, plus a reliable artificial generation of human egg cells, reliable surrogacy with inserted embryos, and maybe at least some kind of artificial wombs in labs successfully tested on humans. So in other words, till 2030 or so, unless we would've gotten their earlier in that alternative timeline. Giving women any rights screwed over the west demographically, for example. Loss of colonies, encouragement of other c…
/r/AntiFeminists17/01/23 02:48 PM
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My point was, that single men need to figure out how to make sure they can use surrogacy. Legally, organization wise, and bringing the costs down by doing it abroad, which might bring up legal issues again, crossing the border with a child and such. I didn't claim artificial wombs to be a bad thing. But it won't happen soon and the constant scifi hopium distracts from making surrogacy for single fathers work.
/r/AntiFeminists24/12/22 07:16 AM
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The dream of the artificial womb totally distracts from the need of surrogacy till it actually exists and has been tested for some time. It's like the male equivalent, to be lured into stalling to have children, until it's to late. The other issue is, we would need nannies taking care of young children or having robowaifus/nannies, which need to be developed first.
/r/AntiFeminists23/12/22 12:37 PM
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I looked into it, thanks. Around 50% chance for young woman or egg from them, maybe even 70%. For the single father use case, this is the more important part. Tragic for the demographics of developed nations, though, that many of the women who thought they could have children later were (intentionally?) mislead.
/r/AntiFeminists23/12/22 12:31 PM
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She had the eggs frozen for a while first, and she probably was twenty when she got them frozen. The embryo is only briefly outside of a human body after fertilization, I strongly assume. Then, in the case above, it got implanted into a women which is quite old for children. The more problematic things would be different in the use case I care about. Idk about how important the effect of 'embryo damage' is, though. Did you read or know about these things or was this just an opinion? Surrogacy is…
/r/AntiFeminists23/12/22 12:21 PM
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Idc, and I didn't mean all conservatives. I don't need to agree with everyone and there's never a consensus on everything. Also, I'm from Europe. Idc, if some conservatives here in this sub want to go back to traditional society. They tried and failed, and will probably go on doing so. I'm pushing for single fathers with children, coming from surrogates, and raised by robowaifus. It was just a casual remark, conveying that I won't change my mind on this so that no one needs to throw their argume…
/r/AntiFeminists23/12/22 10:51 AM
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Does it work better by using a surrogate in form of a younger woman? Also, creating egg cells from normal cells already works experimentally. After tests in animals, it will be used in humans. Mentally inflexible conservatives might not like it, but this is relevant for men as well, since we want to have surrogacy with bought egg cells for unmarried men.
/r/AntiFeminists23/12/22 09:19 AM
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Thanks, but submission statements would be nice.
/r/AntiFeminists24/10/22 04:43 PM
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No one here knows enough about you and your life to give really good advice. I guess my approach would be, that your friends shouldn't believe her. They simply can't know, and not judge you based on her claims. Just stick to that and stand your ground.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/22 02:27 AM
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Not every group needs to cover the whole ground. Political action in that area seems to be barely fruitful. I think groups around men's rights have mostly the role of being a point of contact and for sharing information. Men can do a lot of things to protect themselves and create pressure on society. Though, these are not so much in the area of politics and argumentation, but in learning how not to comply, not to participate, not support, and also in protecting oneself by avoiding to much engage…
/r/MensRights23/07/22 11:36 PM
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Wow.
/r/MensRights22/07/22 04:17 AM
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It would be a good idea to have guys organize around men's issues in education. I'd recommend an image board or other platforms over Reddit, though. Also, I have no time to spearhead this. OP should take notes and collect data on his case, without getting distracted from his studies.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 10:48 PM
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Australia is known to be very feminist and the conservatives are pro female power ("cuckservatives"). Like many English speaking countries it seems to combine the worst of different ideologies when it comes to women. US has at least freedom of speech and other advantages. There's no limit for how bad things could get if such things aren't guaranteed. Edit: None of us can know what's going on there. Try to gather evidence of slander and mistreatment, including witnesses, then get a lawyer and sue…
/r/MensRights12/07/22 09:25 PM
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Hey, how is it going? Oh. https://www.mgtow.tv/watch/the-dangers-of-education-plandemic_yf1zNMqLsmnI9yf.html
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 08:49 AM
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Okay, but his comic doesn't do it. Still works as a MGTOW redpill comic if you look at it in the right way. Not too surprising, even if unintentional, such self-owns are common by women or male feminists.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 12:54 PM
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No, the mother is claiming that. So it's a comic about women smearing their husbands in front of the children. MGTOW comic, just not obvious.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 02:43 AM
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What? Is this supposed to be good or funny? This is a bit funny in itself. Btw, it helps to melt ice cream a little bit to blow against it. Also, this could just be a reflex (maybe while thinking about something more important?). What a dumb comic.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 10:37 PM
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Thanks for your concern, but I'll really plan to go with surrogacy in a few years. I hope we'll have humanoid fembots till then. A bit like in Raised by Wolves.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 05:45 PM
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I won't disclose my country here, but it's in Europe.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 05:39 PM
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not legally obliged Yeah, in many countries this won't work, and laws might get changed where you live as well. Also, I don't want the child to be with the mother. It requires finding a good one and she could also prevent me from seeing and educating the child. Then, even if this would work for me, it doesn't scale.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 04:58 PM
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I'm not betting on artificial wombs. I'm rather interested in surrogacy because I don't think such tech will be available and safely useable anytime soon. Also, this might be used for designer babies, but hasn't necessarily anything to do with it. Joining the seeds outside the body is not the same as genetic manipulation or cloning. I also don't think robowaifus will be able to do all chores at home soon, but could be good enough to be around a child and be the person it bonds with. Also, handli…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:58 AM
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Don't be married in such a country or not be married at all.
/r/MensRights28/06/22 12:56 AM
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Hmm, okay, but expensive is relative. And, is it about the fee in US or getting the child? Might make a difference, since if the child is genetically yours you shouldn't have the same problem getting it into the country.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 07:41 PM
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If you want things to be regulated it won't be just in favor of women. You claim that you want children to grow up in stable families, then certain things are required.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 11:35 PM
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I don't need to believe in anything, I know about it. When you make generalizations then you need to believe in what these other people have as a motivation. I know that I don't want children because I'm lonely. That aside, people could get a pet if it was about that. So even if it was about beliefs, yours is still absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 11:18 PM
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Oh, yeah sure. "Whiny" is a term assholes use when someone calls out their asshole behavior or BS. Whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 10:28 PM
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What are you even talking about. This is about surrogacy. You don't even know what this means.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 09:43 PM
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You know all the options worldwide and that it costs 10 million? Sure.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 09:40 PM
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You are projecting. You can think about the other reasons yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:39 PM
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Wow, what a generalization and projection. FUD won't stop us.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:37 PM
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Okay, that's a bummer. Though, I wasn't interested doing that in US anyways. Everything medical is expensive there, and women aren't poor enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:36 PM
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You can't just assume US is representative if people can go somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:35 PM
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Not your decision. Denied. I also won't fall for your FUD.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 09:34 PM
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I would make it part of the contract that even her intake of food and drinking would be monitored. Also, no visitors without checking what they bring with them. Generally I doubt most surrogates would misbehave, since they would want to get hired two or three times, and also should come from a more traditional culture.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 07:03 PM
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Thanks for the warning, but this is a matter of organization and laws. It only confirms that it's time to get organized around that topic.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 07:00 PM
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Even if that was possible, if it got more popular there wouldn't be enough (white) children soon after.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 06:57 PM
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Not my genes, not my children. Especially when they don't look like me. Don't tell me there are white children available anywhere.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 06:56 PM
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I'm interested in how it was really an option. I just read about surrogacy consultants. I'm very likely to use that in a few years. We should have at least one place where we could discuss the details of this, spreading advice and help organize things. Without the fundamental critics coming in all the time disrupting it. Though, I'm very sure if it got more popular, some militant feminists and their simps would go after anyone participating in that. Just search for "surrogacy" on Reddit, and loo…
/r/MensRights26/06/22 06:54 PM
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So you are in support of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 06:47 PM
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Doesn't matter. Or make divorce illegal and introduce prison for cheating and mandatory rules for partners, like trying to not become obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 06:46 PM
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men being attracted to teens was just nature. It is, idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 06:42 PM
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This is about guys having nannies and at some point robowaifus and other robots. Some might also have family members with less money to help out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 05:43 PM
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Medical procedures aren't so expensive outside US, and billions of poor women exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 05:42 PM
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It will be, nannies already exist and soon the will be robowaifus and other robots to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 05:40 PM
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The idea amongst MGTOW is to use a nanny till the child is around four, and/or a robowaifu in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 05:38 PM
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Some of us want that, it's currently legally difficult, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 05:35 PM
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or decide to keep and raise who is half their own child It's not half their own kid. The egg cell is coming from someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 05:35 PM
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Stop projecting about "loneliness".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 05:32 PM
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It's uncommon for now, but might be more popular in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 05:31 PM
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Where is expensive? In India and Ukraine, or in US and Canada?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 05:30 PM
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Damn, of course they did. We can't have nice things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 05:29 PM
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This makes sense for personal conversations, but not for political ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 05:26 PM
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We have to make it legal I doubt that the costs are that high using a surrogate from a poor country Obviously not using US prices, lol What matters is, if the child inherits the citizenship from the father, then one can do that abroad But I think it's more cost effective to pay hot women to give you children Sounds completely delusional and out of touch. Are you a women yourself, a troll or a boomer? You can't do this in a western country and would also have to live outside such to prevent the m…
/r/MensRights25/06/22 03:32 PM
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Young people seem not to do this anymore and regulations got stricter.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/06/22 04:05 AM
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Young people don't follow this anymore. It has become a stereotype.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/06/22 04:02 AM
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Western feminism and modernism is Marxism, Japan is probably the least Marxist country.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/06/22 04:00 AM
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Follow some content providers on YouTube which remind you not to get into LTR and not to fall for certain manipulations, find some hobby and a purpose, you don't need to go full monk mode (hookers, porn, dolls, etc), build some wealth and look out for your health.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/06/22 03:57 AM
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This is what a surrogate mother means. The egg cell is from one and the child carried by another one (the surrogate).
/r/MensRights25/06/22 02:47 AM
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This could make a meme funny video. Shows title of the show, then scenes with men getting killed repeatedly, then shows a woman which says women have it worse. Logo of the channel or platform with a voice over "Watch the newest feminist shitshow on ..."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/22 01:34 PM
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Gamification of attention. Receiving it in a non annoying way, and being able to roast the source without the fear of (violent) repercussions.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/06/22 02:03 PM
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For some girls looks are everything. Especially the younger ones So only the one who matter. Older ones being more interested in money is exactly what redpillers and mgtow are saying.
/r/ExRedPill10/06/22 05:54 PM
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After the Orange Man Bad hysteria I'm taking this serious.
/r/AntiFeminists09/06/22 12:31 AM
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Calling out double standards or making her a bit uncomfortable is sexist. That's the mindset. Thanks, but no thanks.
/r/AntiFeminists03/06/22 12:11 PM
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There are certainly reasons for that, historical ones, cultural ones, and maybe others. However, I think it would be a good idea to release men from that burden, if they're not opposed to abortion and it's legal where the women lives. If she's against abortions herself then she shouldn't have intercourse with anyone not married to her and wanting a child, or making really sure she doesn't get pregnant. If she's not generally opposed to abortion and sleeps around, then she should carry the burden…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/22 03:49 PM
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Not sure if this isn't more limited to English speaking countries. Germany had the draft only for men but I don't think the law making a distinction in other cases, like violence. The unequal treatment there was justified by court with the argument that women aren't treated equal by society and the constitution asking for removing unequal treatment of the sexes (genders). I think it's mainly the "liberal" ideology of underprivileged groups needing special support and this not being unfair. This …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/22 07:02 PM
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Wow, just wow. I cant even... Well, never mind 😄 I'm gonna save this picture in my history folder.
/r/AntiFeminists22/05/22 09:58 PM
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There are channels on YouTube using simple animations, e.g. MilleniaThinker and a number of others. Someone could make content similar to your idea (I don't have the time).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/22 03:53 PM
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Robowaifus or synthetic girlfriends are not meant to be used just for sex, and also they're meant to be exclusive and one doesn't need to go somewhere. Doll owners tend to call them lovedolls, instead of sexdolls for a reason, and they even don't have AI. Also, they're going to be cheaper over time, and prostitution might still be illegal in many places.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/22 03:48 PM
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I don't know what you mean, but people will still be able to make their own decisions of what to do with their lives. Will turn out how you want it? I honestly think no want can know till we try.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/22 12:52 PM
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Not just sex dolls, and a wank isn't the same. Yes, it's serious, various people working on several projects. Open source and commercial ones: https://youtube.com/channel/UCMO8kgaSPqhAg7rQa7_GvbA
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/22 05:59 AM
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Development of robowaifus (aka synthetic girlfriends) should help. Which reminds me of what I should be doing, instead of writing here. Also, making it easier and cheaper to use surrogate guest workers or abroad, and in general for men to have children without having a spouse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/22 04:17 AM
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Good. Now, they just purged many of the woke in their staff, many POC and woman, they can't afford to care how that looks on social media anymore: https://youtu.be/OwD4CHE2p1U
/r/AntiFeminists20/05/22 08:46 PM
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Not the same thing, obviously ("Sexbot"/Athlete) It's not about the individual case. Who even claims that? "Sexbots" won't stay sexbots, but become more of a general alternative You ignorance only shows your short term and self centered thinking There are plenty of videos about women crying that they can't find a husband in their thirties or older
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 04:54 PM
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It's at least part of a social construct where both sexes profit, down to at least most individuals. Countries don't go to war that often nowadays, and also don't loose 50% or more of their male population in a war, btw. The world is full of compromises and tradeoffs. Having that said, since women could go abroad before to look for other men, that social contract is already broken. So, yeah, it's not really okay.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/22 02:09 PM
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Wow. Won't make them fight, though. Especially since it's a kind of civil war and people could disagree with the politics leading to the current situation. In terms of sex discrimination, I think it needs to be taken into account that it isn't a feminist society (yet). I was speculating before, that Ukraine might have been so cocky towards Russia before, because they've lost a lot of females to emigration towards the west and now have a lot of young men being not so scared of war.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/22 01:22 PM
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do you seriously need a house wife for anyway? One can move to a cheaper place outside of urban areas, where there are no take-out or food delivery services nor any maid services.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/01/22 01:10 PM
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Damn, one more missed business opportunity. 😆
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/01/22 12:11 PM
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Simple: It's not discussed because people don't want to be accused of being white supremacists or racists. Some people might not care, but they're not trying to get elected and don't have to deal with the press, activists and other politicians wanting their job.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 09:51 PM
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Avoiding porn solves nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:58 PM
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Things I don't want to know and thoughts I never had.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:55 PM
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Yeah, and it doesn't do that. I think some people just want to find a reason why porn is bad, and not only porn but any use of female bodies for visual entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:54 PM
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No. Women getting nothing from guys watching porn, and the attraction would exist without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:49 PM
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Lol, is it so far now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:45 PM
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Some parts of that make sense, anti-porn nonsense doesn't. This has nothing to do with putting women on a pedestal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:43 PM
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and can BB a chubby Why? The whole point is not doing that. They can stay strong and independent, but without chad attention and no replacement.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:42 PM
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Robowaifus say hi.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:40 PM
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Being bi-sexual isn't the norm, also there are also dolls and hookers. So please spare me your fantasies. That aside, it is still legit to criticize society and how it was changed, and then react to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:36 PM
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Then your other comment makes even less sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:30 PM
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But societies in developed nations aren't monogamous. Only when it comes to marriages. But those men often remarry later, something younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:29 PM
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Which is why there are people to enlighten these men, and women are mad about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:26 PM
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And if so? Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:24 PM
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Even more nonsense. What some might define as LVMs, they are part of the manosphere. Only feminists and SJWs are getting paid by society for pushing their agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:13 PM
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Not going to college, not working overtime, picking some easy job, not pushing hard to get promoted, taking money from the government if possible, focusing on hobbies, ...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:10 PM
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Maybe society will discriminate against them? Societies already discriminate against men, especially western societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:06 PM
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You're soo naive. The real argument would be: "We can replace them with immigrants, which accept low standards of living" - Look, I'm even doing your job better. This isn't about working vs starving, but working less, not paying for expensive colleges, moving to cheaper places, maybe working remote, not spending money on bars and clubs, maybe retire early and moving to another country. - Again, you could have thought about this on your own and it was mentioned 1000 times already.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:04 PM
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Haha, and most average looking women are dating construction workers. Even when they're not good looking. Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:55 PM
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No, creating or searching for alternatives is the other option. For those who don't want children it's way easier. Leaving high price areas, demanding jobs and high tax countries are the more advanced options, which become more available without a woman (and maybe children). Moving to areas where dating or hookups are easier is another option, so is moving to areas with cheap professionals. Porn and love dolls are already available, latter ones will get more and more animated. In some years robo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:38 PM
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The ones in marriage not necessarily. 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:30 PM
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🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:41 PM
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Avoiding long term relationships. Not women. Also, it might come with being less willing to work hard and pay a lot of taxes. This is then for you. Breakdown of birthrates, plus more single mums which leads to more criminals, more angry feminists which got treated badly by Chad, ... MGTOWs moving to places with lower taxes and prices, you and your women can pay for the mess. 🙋‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 05:39 PM
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What a dumb argument 🤣 or maliciously misleading. Comparing a subreddit of organized men around a topic society doesn't want to be talked about to individual men which differ very much from each other. Men which refuse to marry or don't put any effort into this, because they don't want it, aren't banned from anything. Many could get married or into some LTR, especially with a bit of effort, it's just not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 05:30 PM
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None of what you wrote is challenged by the mgtow content creators I know. Nor is it an argument not to be a mgtow. (I was only fastreading it)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 05:22 PM
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they got sent their own way by women who don't want them Even if that was true, they're still mgtow, because of the mentality. It's a difference trying to get LTS or not. Also, it's not that simple, since it's about how much work one would be willing to be attractive to women and how much one is willing to risk and sacrifice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 04:59 PM
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I can criticize whatever I want. Also, point out the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 09:04 PM
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Changes in society can affect anyone indirectly. Birthrates, social cohesion, amount of political activists / extremists, more aggressive everyday culture, ... However: Incel self-deleters aren't going to get you Men criticizing feminism aren't mean to all women afk Rape mostly doesn't just happen
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:49 PM
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Where did I state that? You're answering to a social problem with such answers. Lame.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:26 PM
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Fascinating, how some here know what all poor women worldwide want. Aside from ignoring, that the percentage of men in questions is rather high. Also ignoring different values in other cultures. Your BS and FUD is too obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 05:18 AM
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Correct. It's an obvious thing to think about, but it's obviously not a reason to not criticize the whole 'carrousel riding with the 10% while young and maybe getting married later' thing, or about women getting trained by media and activists to have bad manners.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 05:09 AM
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Disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 05:03 AM
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And I judge you for claiming to know who needs therapy and for shaming people without even knowing their arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:50 AM
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I don't understand, it was your suggestion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 11:29 PM
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Works for holidays or retirement, if one wants to live there. Otherwise, one needs to be financially independent. Or take the woman back home, which might not be a good idea. Then, it only works for men wanting sex, but not for having white children, or from the same ethnic tribe, at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 11:03 PM
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Hookers: paid validation I think you're projecting or speculating here. Not everyone needs validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 10:56 PM
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You can't ignore the existence of hookers and the fact that in 30yrs they're definitely going to have robowaifus. Otherwise, just let them travel to poorer countries but tell them about safety measures.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 09:18 PM
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I once looked at the gender/sex ratios for shows on a website for reminding people of shows coming back to television. The maximum was Terminator SCC with 80% male, BtVS was more around 65/35 or so in favor of women. Though, this was for Germany, not US. Your society might be more divided on this, and maybe even more in some subcultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 12:25 PM
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This here r/FemaleDatingStrategy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:35 AM
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The robowaifus will come. And you will get older and care less.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 12:31 AM
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Seriously? Robowaifus, AI, automatization Climate disruption, infrastructure problems, maybe food shortages Egg cells made from other cells, artificial wombs at some point Only relatively ethno nationalist governments care about birth rates, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 12:19 AM
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Even "Buffy", lol. That's not exclusively for women, also best show of all times.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 12:11 AM
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Wrong. Some women will sell their egg cells to guys with robowaifus and robonannies, or just real nannies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 12:08 AM
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TRP does not exclusively mean to improve oneself to become more attractive. That's just the bubble believe here, because dating related. TRP is just the knowledge / believe. The actions drawn from that can e.g. also include becoming a MGTOW monk, or working on developing robowaifus, or on other hobbies, while doing hookers from time to time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 12:04 AM
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Female dating strategies
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:59 PM
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You can find literal Nazis who will lean into Holocaust denial and openly talk about ethnic cleansing who will be scandalized if you talk about taking away right from women Yes. And they hate or ridicule MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:37 PM
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What?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:45 PM
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The claim is that most women think this way. Betas are the ones which are not being chosen for their masculine sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 12:14 PM
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may not be an advantage when the bad boy wants to settle down I'm aware that this might be the case, but I doubt that this is an issue in most cases. Bad boys might not want a family, others might change their image and have some smaller career, others go to prison or die. Point is, thanks to the beta providers some women can have it both.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:21 AM
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True, but that's only the job part. What about long term relationships? Children?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:16 AM
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Some here might exaggerate things, but the idea is that women are attracted to different men dependent on where they are in life. Bad boys when they're young and want to have fun, good fathers and providers later in life. It's not some hidden insult, but you're just interesting out of secondary attraction (money, reliability, good manners, ...) not because she thinks you're just hot and have high masculine energy. Maybe you don't care, but it means women can enjoy the first group and then switch…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:10 AM
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Never heard about such general sentiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 10:59 PM
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TRP is just the knowledge. Obviously, ideologies or philosophies on how to react to it, are all different.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 10:53 PM
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TRP is some knowledge and assumptions, PUA, some redpilled dating strategies beyond that, and MGTOW are derived from it. It's some annoying misbelief here that TRP would be the same as PUA.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 10:02 PM
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Who said it's an insult? Maybe in some context? Like one is only good for marriage, but she wants some bad boys first, because masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 08:47 PM
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No, I don't think so. I'm not capable of imagining that. I have no intention to get married, don't have a concept of a dream girl in my mind, want more than one, and it's also about laws and social rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 07:54 PM
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She would be a robowaifu and I would only buy her if I get full access to all the computers and can reproduce the parts at home or with help of some common companies and technicians.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 07:50 PM
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I'm very sure almost all RP men What are RP men? Ever heard of MGTOW? I admit, this goes probably beyond TRP, but dating coaches and their customers are still not the same as TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 07:48 PM
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That's actually a very interesting thing to think about. I can already tell, that the first group seems to be fairer, since making money to survive is very likely to be easier for most men than successful dating is in a tinderized world. Also, part of the answer why this division exists, are the concern about the birthrates in the west in the first group, and the glorification of women in the second group.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 06:07 PM
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This argumentation is flawed on many levels. The west also is were it is, because freedom is more attractive than some badly designed authoritarian society, which would at least partially be based on beliefs and exaggerations, but this was the only thing what critics had to offer for quite some time. You're only repeating that pattern again.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 05:51 PM
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Okay... 🤔 Edit: Still no proof they are turning gay, or that the numbers go up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 05:03 PM
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Gay as in men on men?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 07:30 PM
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Financially independent doesn't mean rich and certainly not flashy. Also, Peoria is still a city.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 03:39 PM
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I don't believe in "Western Capitalism". Also, that's not what I meant: Dropping out, doesn't mean to come back to work when needed, or even being prepared for it. It also includes guys with some money moving to cheaper places and live of their capital stock. So, no reserve labour pool there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 02:35 PM
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Hmm, depends how much LTRs are equivalent to marriages. Birth rates are also down.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 02:31 PM
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Aside from the fact that I think capitalism as a form of society doesn't exist, it's just a marxist term which got popular: We have most likely many more billions or trillions of years, maybe even quadrillions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 02:16 PM
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not so much about sexual orientation, but rather cultural. That's what some people want to sell as the truth, and I believe the "evidence" for that is based on exaggerations at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 02:07 PM
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I would have to look into that, to find out if this is true. However, even if so, then nowadays we have porn, hookers, sex-tourism, and dolls as options.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 02:02 PM
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Possible, but it's statistics on marriage and divorce for example, or the data from daring apps, don't see how this could be misleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 01:56 PM
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Same sex experiences will be quite common for both men and women and all other genders. That again? Only some people are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 09:04 AM
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The most important demographic fact There are some: That more men than women are being born, the gap seems to increase, and men don't die young in huge numbers anymore. So there are more and more of us. Immigration might add to it. Men dating or marrying younger women has less of an effect in societies with population growth, but increases the scarcity of young women in such ones that don't grow anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 09:02 AM
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You're getting it wrong, they're not supposed to give it away without getting into a relationship in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 08:55 AM
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Unpopular opinion ... bisexual For good reason. It some projection or fantasy of yours. Men don't turn just gay or bisexual. Even less so with porn, hookers, hook-ups, sex tourism, dolls, some more or less unrelated distractions, and in the future more and more virtual girlfriends and robowaifus. MGTOW is not about being gay or bisexual, even not about refusing to date or short term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 08:46 AM
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I wouldn't even want that, and those weirdos who absolutely need that can have a fake version of it. Like a dating simulator. It's just cultural and ideological bias, though. 99.9% of men in human history didn't feel the need of a mutual relationship, based in equality, lol. That said, I'm sure some AI can appreciate friendly gestures. If it's about some confirmation or illusion that one could get a "real" girlfriend, then I can understand it. But such men need to get away from this kind of thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 08:32 AM
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The "We all" argument again. I didn't even know what female validation is, till I read about it. Still don't care. Also, human feelings and perceptions are manipulatable and things we want can be substituted. On top of that, common red pill knowledge states that women don't love men like men love women. So robowaifus will be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 08:17 AM
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So all the statistics and reporting is wrong. Okayyy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 08:08 AM
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That's a generalization, once again framing them all as (potentially) dangerous extremists. There are certainly many which would be okay with robowaifus and prefer not to have a complete breakdown of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 08:04 AM
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I'm not sure if "sexbots" will be indistinguishable from human females, but that's not necessary. The only need to be much better than current dolls. Also it's not about just animated sexdolls, but robowaifus which can do more things. Even nowadays some guys have their lovedolls sitting around and may talk to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 08:02 AM
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Technology already had a huge impact, no reason to assume this won't happen again. Also, people learn from observation. Men will drop out even more.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 12:39 AM
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How is this even relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 11:52 PM
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30% of men in the US had nox sex during the last year, if I recall correctly. Also, my point was that our social norms are not just natural but cultural.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 11:43 PM
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More or less, that's already the trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 11:36 PM
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The robowaifus will come.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 11:31 PM
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In some way or another a small group of men would have the women. Others might be allowed to be friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 11:20 PM
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women want to feel desired and want companionship Obviously this can come from social media. Companies and free developers are going to develop virtual and robot friends. Also, dogs and cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 11:18 PM
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Our society is also formed by culture, in nature a small group of men might have harems.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 11:12 PM
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Inbreeding doesn't work that way. One percent is to much for that, not considering the women. Also, that's not gonna happen, just some anti-capitalist fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 11:10 PM
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Coach Greg Adams pointed out recently, that Instagram is the new dating app. Some kind of popularity score might become more and more relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 11:05 PM
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Up to 90% of men will use robowaifus, virtual girlfriends, or both. Chads and PUAs will still do their thing, but for less attractive and older women it's game over for dating and marriage. Quite some number of men will use nannies, robonannies or robowaifus to raise their children which they have from surrogates. More and more women will do the same. This, or r/collapse of civilization, with possible changes of society. No, I don't mean back to the fifties.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 10:37 PM
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It doesn't matter, because if one doesn't want something then he doesn't need to pay the price or attract it. There could be value, but I have no intention to discuss every scenario here. It's also debated which sex (statistically) wants a relationship at such an age more, both sides claim that it is the other one, however this might also depend on cultural trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 09:42 PM
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Lol, same men making fun of incels or doll lovers, robowaifu embracers and other MGTOW guys who watch porn and do hookers. Do as you like, I wouldn't take such an old one. Even not in my sixties. Especially since she would still feel entitled, while not having egg cells nor youth. What value would such a woman bring? It's only for men who think they absolutely need to be in a relationship. Which on top of everything come with legal and financial risks. If she would bring any value in terms of be…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 08:38 PM
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That you could become some alpha by that definition seems to be the selling point of some dating coaches. I'm sure such alphas don't exist in today's society or are less than one percent. It is also close to impossible to become one, without starting with preferred looks or the genetic potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 03:59 PM
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Buy a doll, or learn Japanese and get a Gatebox, and then wait till robowaifus hit the market. https://youtu.be/nkcKaNqfykg
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 03:50 PM
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The normal women will settle now, when they're old. TRP doesn't describe some ideology many women have, but a general tendency. If there are exceptions, then they'll be hard to find and to catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 03:45 PM
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That's the betabux, the thing described above still falls under MGTOW, and maybe PUA if the focus is on game instead real archievements. If what you want is possible or not, is challenged. Even if you believe it, it might be hard and still only an illusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 03:40 PM
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Okay, but I meant the increase in male births, the higher chance of survival for young men, compared to other times (which is a good thing, but has consequences). Immigration of additional men is another factor. Then, recently someone reported on the factor that older men dating younger women would be less of a problem with high birthrates, but it increases the problem without those.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 03:34 PM
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Okay, but if there are other women they're never really on the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 12:38 PM
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And then? What's the point? Redpill is only a certain knowledge, conclusions from that differ.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 12:30 PM
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I agree more or less. However, blackpillers and MGTOWs getting along better and better, in my impression. Thinking Ape on Youtube has conversations with them, for example. I don't see that much bashing of MGTOW or TRP in general from blackpillers or incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 11:05 AM
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It also doesn't change demography, which is underreported here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 10:43 AM
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I'm into the whole knowledge around relationships, not limited to TRP but also MGTOW arguments which go beyond that, and then TBP knowledge as well. It helped me to make the decision to focus on the development of robowaifus, only using hookers and hook-ups till then, instead of putting to much effort into dating and wanting a LTR. I kept my money, which I had in form of Bitcoin and therefore went up a lot, and I learned lots of tech related of things. The manosphere also keeps reminding me, how…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 10:41 AM
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I do. Your bubble isn't mine. I don't see much PUA. Also, once again, still doesn't mean they are the equivalent to TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 10:28 AM
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And you determine the size how? Also, you didn't write that. It's hard to read through that BS here, in the style of "TRP tells you to do that" while really it is only knowledge, not a tutorial.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 09:30 AM
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TRP doesn't preach any practice, the many schools of how to deal with the situation do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 08:36 AM
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Daily reminder: PUA strategies are not "the Redpill".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 08:32 AM
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The term 'date' is ambitious. He doesn't need to bring her to his family. He also could give her a fake job, if that was the problem. Also, limiting the definition of HVM to oneself is questionable. Maybe a financially independent men who doesn't care about his family's opinion, could also be considered to be a HVM.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 01:55 PM
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Since these are different philosophies, not movements and each man might have different plans: None. Though, well, broadly speaking: robowaifus / fembots.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 03:41 PM
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A barley hear about those guys. It's a different bubble, I guess. Makes sense, since they attack others, like MGTOW and incels, while I'm for getting along and listen to a wider spectrum. Since they're getting dislikes from us, I'm quite sure there are two different spheres. PUA and some aggressive dating coaches, and the other side.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 03:29 PM
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Didn't listen to him yet, but highly doubt it. You only quoted a few, and couldn't have listened to all the content.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 03:23 PM
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All pill based and inspired channels combined are smaller then him? And even if so, what's the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 02:52 PM
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Lol, no. The schools or philosophies spawned from it helped many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 02:50 PM
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Which is why TRP is not a movement. Even the philosophies, schools of thought and techniques spawned from it aren't movements. Though, these are the answer to your question: Self-improvement, PUA, MGTOW, BlackPill incl. incels (somewhat in opposition to TRP), and the long term solution for most: Development of fembots / robowaifus.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 02:47 PM
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There's no leadership. There's no movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 02:34 PM
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Women want more stuff. I agree... Guys are stronger... Great, till someone is stronger or has more power. Also, we have tools for quite some time. Men die more often and kill themselves more often, but we have it better. Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 02:33 PM
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Which is not sufficient in the best case, and not effective at all. Conservatives aren't very flexible and agile in their thinking and strategies. It lost, it failed. It mostly has no explanations, only traditions. Bluepilled in the worst case. Certainly collectivist and authoritarian. The new philosophies are superior. At least, more attractive for many guys and therefore give us a broader way to fight back.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 02:22 PM
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Pick-up artists and such coaches do that. Not "the Redpill".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 02:12 PM
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Stop conflating a class of dating coaches with the Redpill. They seem to be rather pick-up artists (and scammers). MGTOW also came from the Redpill and some other guys are not or not really fully MGTOW but still not like these PUAs. Alexander Grace or Coach Greg Adams, for example. Edit: Thanks for bringing this Tom Leykis to my attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 02:05 PM
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They might have concepts based on it, doesn't mean it's a synonym.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 12:21 PM
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The term incel is one guys pick for themselves. It shall not be used as a slur.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 09:41 AM
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Lol, all western women are married to the government, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 09:37 AM
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Simple minded guys in bars and clubs, yeah I get it. The "real men", lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 09:35 AM
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"real men" 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 09:33 AM
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So you're a Chad, due where you live, claiming it's the mens fault which can't do the same thing? Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 09:30 AM
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Guys not being able to get laid is a 'you" problem. Not a societal one. In a society which is already broken and on it's way down.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 09:23 AM
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Lol, the whole existence of the manosphere proves you wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 09:22 AM
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Dumb social darwinism. Getting laid has not much to do with how many children are born.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 09:20 AM
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Why would a man who is getting sex worry about a man who isn't getting sex? The political perspective. It's not about the rival next door, but society. Men build it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 09:19 AM
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The guys in the next decades are going to have robowaifus.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 09:17 AM
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Well, equality, you know. Allegedly, this is what women wanted. Also, a lot of women were complaining about sexual harassment, even when being looked at or approached by a unattractive guy. Maybe, try to realize it's not these mens fault but the education system and mass media. They weren't raised that way, and that wasn't their decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 09:06 AM
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Interesting, but always keep in mind that dating apps might not be the only option and thus might paint a skewed picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 08:51 AM
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Most guys are better of focus on themselves, have hookups with younger women when they're successful. Marry one of them or not. Women complaining about getting ghosted by Chads and being alone when old, are the other side of the equation. We even didn't get to the point where we have robowaifus widely available and AI avatar girlfriends are good enough as emotional surrogate complementary to porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 07:13 AM
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Reminder: Dating coaches are not "the Redpill". Content creators often focus on one topic. Humans in general tend to exploit a scheme to the extreme if it gives them success. In other words: Its their business.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 12:02 AM
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Dude, we're not monkeys anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 11:52 PM
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RedPill: "You can and should improve yourself in various ways, which also will increase your chances for dates with young and good looking women at some point." RedPill and BlackPill can be mixed: Self-improvement might not get you dates while you're young, bc looks and other traits Others can have women while they're young and being older Your negative traits might inhibit your chances of success There will be likely many other guys with money and status, when you made it. Probably with other b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 11:24 PM
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I believe for hookups only the looks and some personality traits will really matter. Same for wanting children. Money on top of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 10:22 PM
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Dating coaches are NOT "the Redpill".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 10:16 PM
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A small percentage of men certainly does gatekeep relationships. Same for older and quite successful men, in regards to the women who would want them at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 10:13 PM
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Only simps, which care about validation. Porn, professionals and dolls are the alternatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 10:08 PM
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Maybe try to avoid people which are like that. Never help them, except if its a small favor for some acquaintance, to keep your environment friendly and such, but don't seek them out. Don't support platforms which are dominated by people like that. Don't date such women in a serious manner.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/21 01:19 AM
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I don't date, but it wouldn't be a deal breaker in any case. Only aggressions or something else that bothers me would be a problem. Social anxiety could even be a bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 12:35 PM
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MGTOW is real, hookups are real for some and cheap hookers for the rest, robowaifus will be a reality soon. Also, some economic crash might be coming.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:03 PM
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Hmm, women live longer on average... So maybe they should retire later?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/21 08:17 PM
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Wheat Waffles has it fleshed out a bit more, into three RedPills: https://youtu.be/6oz-tOcwlVs
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 06:11 AM
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Are you taking the generation into consideration? A sample with women in their forties or fifties doesn't reflect recent cultural changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 06:04 AM
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Many singles wouldn't be happy needing to do all of these things or they even can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 09:34 PM
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People below a certain income cost more than they pay. So if more incels drop out, or becoming mgtows and drop out, then it will have some effect on the economy. One can also live cheaper in places without much nightlife.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 03:28 AM
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It's not the only thing going to happen. The economy could break down and there will be better virtual reality, lovedolls and robowaifus. Just focusing on on thing as bad for predicting the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 03:25 AM
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It's a illusion. One needs the skills to do these other things, at least some amount of self discipline. Chads have easy access to women, also take the less good looking ones if they're less difficult or more willing to be more naughty. Everyone below has to compete for the rest. I'm sure, that only a small number of young woman has no occasional intercourse and they don't need to do a lot for it, while the percentage of men is much higher and they're trying harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 03:17 AM
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I think you always have to take into account that getting into and maintaining a relationship comes with costs in time, stress, effort, mental occupation, need for compromise and adaption, need for maintaining status, e.g. a job beyond just paying the bills, maintaining other relationships (friends, family, colleagues), having conversations, ... So it depends on the person if that's worth it, or even doable, the more narrow fantasy is always great of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 11:14 PM
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These dating apps exist. There are not dating apps where men have the upper hand, because women would use them. Outside of dating apps it's called going to clubs. Women also have colleagues and are seen on the streets, complaining about how often they're approached or cat called.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 10:59 PM
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Probably all countries, except US.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/21 01:06 AM
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Always the 'always' mantra. That aside, even sexdoll owners call them lovedolls and have them sitting around and they're not for sex only, while they even don't move nor talk. Robowaifus will be a completely different level.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/21 12:50 AM
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In a scenario with fembots it would work well. Also, you were propagating the same, just reversed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 07:04 PM
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I am going my own way and would even be okay without a fembot, but since I believe it is possible to develop them, I want one. The distinction between real MGTOW and some fake ones, seem to be only made by people on the outside. There's no reason to try something if there's not enough coming out of it, the effort not worth it, or not much hope of success. Incels and MGTOWs are not necessarily hostile to each other. Former Incels which stop believing in the importance of having a relationship or …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 04:16 AM
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Thanks for the clarification. I still disagree with the part about AI/fembots of course. Cope is just adapting to reality, not some delusion. MGTOWs already choose not to have (long term) relationships. Anything but a fantasy is real. So are fembots, if they don't claim to be human. Not everyone cares about validation, just bc on has a physical attraction to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 02:31 AM
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MGTOW is RedPill or came out of it. https://youtu.be/pv4Zwq0SR7w
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 12:18 AM
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Btw, on the topic of fake looks: https://youtu.be/aS72O3VIfWM
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 11:11 PM
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That's to general. Cost/benefit ratio is a thing. MGTOWS are not Incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 11:10 PM
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Nothing will ever replace the real thing, Where does this strange believe come from? In principal, artificial women can look better than most women and be more selfless and pleasant. It just a matter of development.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 10:54 PM
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How old are you vaguely? Boomer? Women want 10-20% of men, maybe settle with one of the others if they're pleasing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 10:52 PM
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Robowaifus aren't sex toys. The whole obsession with the term "sex bot" is misleading, it's about sex-enabled companions. You argue like a women, imo, sorry. Men want a whole body and some interactions, not some sex toy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 10:48 PM
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You're onto something. Sarcasm might be a good way to go. Basically all women are feminists, and most can have sex, at least when they're young. Complaining about the men they choose and which they give a pool of women to choose from. Also complaining about not getting married bc there aren't enough good men available. Totally the same than Incels, which can and should be a self-applied label but is often used as a slur for men which technically aren't even Incels. While women saying they're not…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 09:14 PM
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You're just creating a simple model of the world which you can understand and puts other people down. That's all. Barely anything in this world is the same than something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 09:02 PM
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It's legit to like that. Human have the will to choose their own purpose and better their lifes. Robots don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 07:43 PM
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She claims that men want dating to be hard. "Chasing women", trying to figure out how we can get them. They seem to tell each other this, while men walk away from it. It's probably more so that women want to be chased.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 07:31 PM
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Illusion? You're assuming one would need to believe she's a human? I like Cameron from Terminator SCC and fembots from anime. They don't need to be exactly like humans, their quirks can even be charming.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 07:27 PM
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Corpses don't move, can't speak and are cold.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 07:18 PM
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Lol, I didn't even care if you endorsed it, only about what's better. However: Your last sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 08:07 AM
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One can have a harem of robowaifus and still play games the whole day.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 04:42 AM
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You know the meme? No, not in the early stages, but neither would you. 🤭 I think guys will be fine with an animated doll which can't do work at home. I doubt the same is valid for women having a husband not being able to go out and work, and maybe in some earlier future not at home as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 01:42 AM
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No I don't, but I'm much closer to the target audience. To me it's even great to watch, just for fun. One of the best advertisements ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 01:19 AM
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No, the other way around. Men should develop fembots (animated dolls) which can care for children. Then buy egg cells and rent surrogates, and then mainly have sons.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 01:15 AM
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She's close enough. Looking completely like a human shouldn't be the standard anyways, more like the face of Alita: Battle Angel.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 01:08 AM
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Validation? You know, there are other things you can do. Play some vidya. Also, new SciFi should assume there will be more robowaifus than human females in the future, and also more men. All the other SciFi is just wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 01:05 AM
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It's a very good state to be able to do that. More liberty from society.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 01:00 AM
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Let me guess: Other women (feminists) told you that or you made it up yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 12:59 AM
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The posting is about something hyper realistic, which is some irrelevant standard. Sex-enabled bots with more and more skills are good enough. Companies and networks of enthusiasts are working on it. https://youtu.be/-DvYxmkea_U
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 12:50 AM
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You are completely wrong and won't convince me, or you have some unreasonable standards for what's human-like enough... https://youtu.be/0yUyBuUcM3Y
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 12:44 AM
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That's my point. You don't get to decide for other people and!d what's better for them. The advertisement works for other people. I really like it, even while I most likely won't buy such a Gatebox.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 12:05 AM
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Surrogates + buying egg cells
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 11:38 PM
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A fantasy people work on making it real. The term non-living is misleading. Incapable of feeling is a matter of definition and probably wrong. Hookers are available for short term fun, so it's even not a comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 11:31 PM
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No. 5-10 years for something, but with mental limitations. Good enough for home.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 11:27 PM
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Some men seem to need this validation. I never felt that urge, only started reading about it some years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 11:24 PM
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It's beautiful, empowering and uplifting. It's just not made for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 11:22 PM
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You realize that they won't have a job? Just sitting around.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 11:00 PM
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AI can be an assembly of different systems, with trained responses and also programmed constraints and responses in cases where it wouldn't know what to do otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 10:57 PM
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Little correction: Dolls might lie down like a starfish, but it makes no sense to assume fembots would be completely passive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 10:54 PM
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Cause you didn't want to see it, but also because fanvids focus on something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 08:47 PM
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Renting for 30 minutes isn't the same than owning and having her at home, and having her exclusively. 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 08:17 PM
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I don't think it just men who would have gotten anyone, but the tradeoff will get better and better. One can life outside urban areas where house are cheaper, work less, won't need to buy stuff to increase status, less exposure to and dependency from other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 07:54 PM
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Trying to end democracy, living in a failed state with low amount of technology and quality of life VS developing robowaifus and staying at home with them, living in peace with good food, anime and internet. 🤔 Easy choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 07:48 PM
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No one forces you to be alone. Having humanoid robots isn't the same than lonlienes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 07:39 PM
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One day is a very broad time frame. In a lab or hospital it would be safer.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 07:36 PM
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Your assumptions. Not everyone thinks that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 08:00 AM
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Obviously nonsense. Labor robots could be owned by companies,so why would they pay a wage?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 07:23 AM
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Women want to date 10-20% of men, those might still need to put work into it and being threatened by divorce or would just prefer to have an easier life. You're very disconnected from reality and are probably drawing conclusions based on cheap dolls.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 07:17 AM
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That's just your interpretation of how humans should be and like with many zealots the violent fantasies are already there.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 06:40 AM
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In some countries it might not be possible to make it illegal. Then there also can be black markets. Men can also vote, lobby or move to other countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 06:36 AM
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Own capital. Live in a country with UBI. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 06:34 AM
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Never thought about them as well, till I realized they are the first step in the right direction. Not interested in them otherwise, though. Robowaifus / fembots aren't sexdolls.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 06:28 AM
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You're gonna hate the future. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 06:22 AM
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AI developing it's own wants and desires it's necessarily going to happen. It's just some entertainment meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 06:00 AM
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Why? Let me help you: https://youtu.be/CIgaUSyLDhc
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 05:57 AM
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Lab, not home.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 05:50 AM
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Yes, but I'm quit sure the technology is 5-30 yrs away, not 50-100. And it will come up gradually. In terms of models in entertainment there's also Terminator SCC, Turbo Kid, and plenty of anime like Clockwork Planet or Chobits.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 05:49 AM
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Bitcoin went up, bc if payment providers don't want Onlyfans, then people are going to use Lightning.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 12:04 AM
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It's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 03:42 AM
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All of these things can be fixed later, except drinking water quality for the mother during pregnancy. Solving obesity will probably take more effort, the rest is more or less just something one can change at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 03:40 AM
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BS. Is there any study showing it? It's plastics and maybe obesity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 12:23 AM
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RedPill sells false hope, BlackPill is closer to the truth but lacks the hope of technological advancement. MGTOW and robowaifus are the solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 12:11 AM
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These are all variants of communism or at least communist leaning ideologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 12:07 AM
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Racial communists / Kritische Rassentheorie
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 12:06 AM
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In such an unrealistic scenario maybe. In reality women will sell egg cells and act as surrogates, till we have well functioning artificial wombs and egg cells can safely be made from normal cells or created from scratch.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 07:48 PM
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That's why some men try to develop them as open source systems. No one would buy such bad ones anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 07:45 PM
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The topic are robots. Only the most simple ones won't be able to clean themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 07:40 PM
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A bot will either act like she loves you or be very submissive and without power. Relationships with prostitutes aren the same. They can see other guys, they are not exclusive nor dependent. Validation by a independent woman doesn't matter but depend on the guy, the emotional relationship, exclusivity, and power dynamics do matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 07:39 PM
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By my definition, they are no Incels then. If it's about relationship, not intercourse, the name has to be changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 07:25 PM
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That would be a bad design. Not gonna happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 07:07 PM
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Finally, someone getting it. The validation aspect is maybe an imprint through society. I don't want the woman to select me, I want to select her, or better a whole harem. That aside, career, friends, going out, social behavior, working out, making things up, ... all just for validation from a woman? They can't be serious. Not all of us are the same, I'm a social dropout and no intention to come back.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 07:04 PM
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Allegedly only a small amount of high quality men exist, bc of their upbringing. Wealth is not enough, they also need to treat her like a queen. Most men seem to be abusive in their eyes, harassing them all the time and trying to rape someone.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/08/21 06:14 PM
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Create some imageboard or Fediverse instance as a bunker and promote it before you get deleted.
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