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You cannot change others. I'd say start working on your self control and just being happy on your own first. Are you the rock and safe harbor for her? Clearly not.
/r/MarriedRedPill24/05/26 09:29 PM
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Well if you manage to make those t-shirts let me know, haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:25 PM
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I think you said it in too many words, but I feel you, it is nothing new though - already 20 years ago it was a bad idea to just think you can have a job and be stable and you get the girl, and there was no tiktok. I think the reality is we are more and more returning to the "natural" state of human relationships, where no one really cares about the 80% or more of "average" men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 10:00 AM
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I did not see the trad men planning to give a birth to a baby though, are you sure you got your biology basics right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 02:09 PM
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I feel this is a wrong way looking at it, because you are implying others should do/not do something, while what you do is ok - that is what leftist think and it's no benefit to anyone. So all this argument is a bit empty - if it is so important for the particular person, that their partner do not watch porn, you cannot change it - although it will most likely not be a deal breaker in the real world, if they really like you. In the same way, I don't like woman having Instagram with her own half …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 06:08 AM
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Actually, statistically, it's the opposite - men with the good wives live longer and happier than single.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:44 PM
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You are forgetting the men turning to red pill are the sexless bottom of the barrel, which is like what, 50% nowadays? For them getting ANY woman is a win. And I can assure you if the blue pill Disney version would actually work to get a woman, they would not even need to look this up. And yes, they go through the angry phase and rightly so, but that is not the final destination TRP teaches us about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:20 PM
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In the same way, I could parody a woman of similar nature "It is okay if I sleep with 200 men and then find some dumbass to pay for my children". It would be nice people put in some thought before acting but most of the time that is not what happens I'm afraid. And that is what redpill is doing - not saying that particular people are good or bad but explaining how the world works, especially for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:14 AM
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Yet, Sharia is what you get eventually anyway if the rules are set by women. There needs to be a balance, but I'm afraid the pendulum has moved too far in many places already.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:07 AM
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Except that is now the very common reason for the divorces - not that man would be bad, but she gets the idea from social media etc that she can do better. And don't even get me started on the dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:32 AM
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You are still claiming these are some outliers, but it is the new norm. The majority of divorces are now initiated by women, and the reason is that we are going back to the natural, unregulated dating/mating behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 10:25 PM
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It is stupid, yes, but when you stop thinking about your choices and their consequences or are unable to do so in the grips of mental illness, our insticts take over. And they for sure not monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 01:17 PM
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The blue pill people here will say this is not because she is a woman, but because your social skills are lacking.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 09:27 PM
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Of course they are influenced by this. Especially for the people who just go by their feelings or "chemistry" and nor givjng second thought why they are attracted to the people they are attracted to. You think evolution and the predisposition of our species can be just tuned off? If yes we would not be here today.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 08:27 PM
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Hunans evolved to choose a mate in some way. The abilitiy to go to a store let alone drive a car in the last 100 years does not change that any bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:29 PM
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Maybe not calculated, but based on evolution for sure - in the caveman days it was simply not possible to walk away if the man cheated.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 05:33 AM
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This guy is oveanalyzing, yes, but why call him out on morality? No one forces the women he meets to go out with him or sleep with him. Or maybe you are scared that this or similar tactics would work on you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:08 PM
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So you are saying they were forced to marry those violent men? Or maybe they agreed to it in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 08:52 PM
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If your life goal is to have as many sexual partners as possible, then sure, you could get jealous in such a way, but I don't think that's the goal for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:07 PM
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So if I understand correctly where you are coming from, you think you found the "unicorn" in the red pill terms or the "normal woman" as you call it and feel like you made it? That would also explain your condescending attitude. I truly hope it works for you, but you are really putting all the eggs in one basket here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:54 PM
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You can claim you are red pill and boast some stupid shit around, sure, but it is not at all what the original idea was - at it's core, it is really men putting themselves first, but not also not blaming others for the evenrual failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:48 PM
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Sorry, but as the previous poster earlier in this thread said, reponses like this only confirms we are right. It would be much more powerful, or anyhow you call it nowadays, to say why you disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:24 PM
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Is it bad to want to have "access to vaginas" as you put it, though? If yes, it should be also bad for women to request support in bad marriages or with child support. What you don't see here is in the long run this "access" is beneficial for the women as well, even if they have to lower their standards somehow. After all, that was the original purpose of marriage itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 09:43 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:52 AM
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The future is like in Japan - lonely people and relationships replaced by virtual social media figures. Kind of post-apocalyptic if you ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:51 AM
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If you are not just along for the ride then yes - after few encounters it's not so hard to recognize this type of women, or to be more exact, the kind of woman thinking so low about you she will treat you like this. And then it's IMHO not worth pursuing it further.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 01:34 PM
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I agree to some extent, but you should recognize if this happens to you too often, the problem is probably you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 07:57 PM
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It could be also who you consider average, especially if you are in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 07:53 PM
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I get your point, but I think men many times don't understand this because in general we are not socially rewarded by complaining about common things as women often are. Also, it's not just bad, as this is exactly how a washing machine was invented.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:24 AM
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I thought it is called changing the tire? Anyway, the last paragraph shows you are not aware of the usual dynamic - women coming up with the problems and men solving them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 06:27 AM
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And yet we need them so much nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 10:23 PM
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You clearly don't have your own children and I hope it remains unless you change this mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 08:27 PM
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I'm sorry, but reading things like this really makes me think we deserve to die out or be conquered by one of the not so "free will" religions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 08:26 PM
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I didn't read it all TBH, but you can clearly see by the comments of most of the women here - they don't go by the logic of it, but by their feelings, it's just natural. And I can tell you these are the more reasonable responses you get from a woman. I personally believe that also this is the reason why marriage was invented - you could say to keep women within reason and men working and not fighting each other about the remaining women. It was not fair, but it really got the society moving. Now…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 07:56 AM
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But what if what men really only care about is to get the woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 11:36 PM
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I understand why you would feel this way, but it really does not have to be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 11:45 AM
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Oh come on, you again? This is more like purplepillcirclejerk rather than CMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 01:23 PM
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No. To certain age it's up to the parents and then up to the person itself, the state can only make things worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:01 PM
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Who is talking about barking orders? I'm lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 05:16 PM
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You are mostly right, but me neither OP mentioned forcing anyone, where did you see that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 05:15 PM
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This doesn't change anything - the day you stop trying to get her you start losing her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:23 PM
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So you think life ends at 50, lol? How old are you? At that age, only your life choices start really catching up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:19 PM
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Is it really a question though? Seems to me more like you are just complaining, haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:16 PM
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Thanks for the explanation (unnecessary), but still - the difference between boss around or follow instructions and being led is basically the choice to do so. And I don't see OP forcing anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:13 PM
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So you are saying a traditional woman will not follow the lead of her man? That is basically what OP had in mind, although the "following instructions" is a bit childish way to put it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 07:28 PM
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So basically men's equivalent to this is a 60+ year old hobo living under the bridge, no? So she still can find love, just not what she expected, like in the movies.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/10/23 09:52 PM
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But for a woman, that is also what makes her whole week.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 09:39 PM
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Men always pay the bill, one way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 09:38 PM
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Actually I understand there were such places already existing in the past, some say they were called "churches". Except there was a bit alcohol after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:25 PM
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I'm confused, I think it's clear that all problems are caused by women. And men have been trying to solve them for millennia, that is how our god damn civilization was built! Otherwise we (men) would just still hang around the fire in front of the cave and be happy about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 03:02 PM
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If you say so, but the actual numbers are quite scary to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 09:13 PM
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Not directly, but they stop contributing to society and just go MGTOW or something. And then the boogeyman cones... It will not happen in few years, but I do believe the decline has already started, we can just hope the technology advancements will keep us afloat.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 07:55 PM
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Exactly, I also want to see the world burn!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 02:18 PM
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Wait, so you say I like to go to sleep in the morning because I'm actually a vampire?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 09:13 PM
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Yes, but wouldn't being dead complicate getting pussy? But I seriously believe this kind of bio is the cheat code for Tinder, but also I hope I never have to actually try it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 08:54 PM
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I'm fine, thanks for asking. I was talking in general, and in the end, statistically speaking, most of men cannot be above average, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 08:37 PM
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So we maybe not agree on the percentages but in general yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 11:24 PM
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Literally every other comment or post here talks about how average men are invisible to a modern woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:58 PM
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Yes, if they are hot. If the man is average he is invisible to an average woman nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:57 PM
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But you forgot about the 10 other "friends" in your phone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:15 PM
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Men simply do not have this choice most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 08:48 PM
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This thread again... If we keep thinking about having children as sacrifice, no surprise we are dying out and the skeletons keep coming out of closets.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 09:47 PM
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But isn't finding such woman nowadays the only real reason for a man to marry?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 09:40 PM
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Why would you care tho? If you like her, just go ask her, it's as easy as that. Or don't, but I feel like if you have to ask questions like this, you already lost without even trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 08:01 PM
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If you are consistent like this, then good for you and for the men you interact with, but the modern average woman using OLD has the double standard where these rules and considerate criteria only apply to the men which she does not really find attractive, but she will fuck Chad on first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:17 AM
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For a woman. For an average man it means being alone with no interest from women at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 08:40 AM
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Most of these young men probably tried first "being decent human & partner", but it failed miserably, hence they adjusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 06:47 AM
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Yes, but also we should point out for many women this is what being single means.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:24 PM
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I don't disagree, but this sounds weirdly specific, I guess this is in US?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 03:38 PM
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I'm sorry, but the first guy is more like without self-respect than not attractive. I know there are men like that, but no one is forcing them to tolerate such behavior, let alone be with such a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 07:41 PM
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I'm sorry to make you vomit, is that rape too? And please don't assume which laws I do or don't follow, it was an example. Simply the fact that we have the term "false accusation" in the list of general phrases related to rape means there is something seriously wrong. What I hear is that you cannot select your life partner correctly and are afraid they can abuse you in the future, so you ask the state for protection. That is very bad place to start any relationship IMHO.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:05 PM
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Ok, so to be clear, by a bad law I mean one I don't follow, but to the point: I agree if we are talking about rape on the street for example, but in a home or relationship where both the people are voluntarily, there is not such a thing, especially if they agree to it together as it was stated here. You can have home violence, sure, but that is rarely a rape in the original meaning - where only one side is clearly at fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:24 PM
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If you want to answer, sure. I do believe there is such a thing as a bad law.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:37 AM
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Basically any society from the early tribes before marriage was established.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 11:19 PM
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Some beer and lot of water, but I don't see how it is relevant? It was not law question but a moral one - if two grown up people agree on something and it doesn't do harm to anyone else, why on earth we should have a law for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 11:18 PM
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If you think sex in sleep is dangerous game then you ain't see nothing lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:28 AM
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What law is above what two people agree upon together?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:26 AM
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Well, you will see it when there is no more soy latte for you (or more likely your grand grand children), but then it will be hard to do something about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:50 PM
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They will not only burn it to the ground, as it has happened in the history, but what is even worse, they will not build it back up without getting it - rather fight each other about the remaining available pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:44 PM
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Actually we have that kind of television in our country - it's called public service broadcast or something like that and the idea is that if everyone is forced to pay, they will produce unbiased content, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:41 PM
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I like your essay here, you present some very good arguments and examples I will use in the future, but as you can see also from the answer here - you forgot a crucial part: Logic and reason are tools of patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:37 PM
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I agree women are now doing what they are hardwired to do and which they were forced to do differently in the past as you would probably put it. But the question here is why they were "forced" to do so? It seems there must have been some really strong reason that made it very effective if it went on for so long...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:30 PM
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You nailed it right there in the last paragraph - it does not actually matter in dating how big your contribution to society actually is (unless you are abillionaire), although I 100% agree it should play a role. But that is not the reality we live in today. One could say with many women, being a good men gives you less chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 02:28 PM
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You literally asked "why does it matter what woman's body count is".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 05:35 PM
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Ok, so you agree it lowers her value? Then why you are asking why her body count matters? And from what I see around me and especially on social media, girls are still encouraged to "have fun" and the downsides not really mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 08:54 AM
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But you said it yourself - their options are shrinking, together with the standard of men they were able to get in the past it's a slippery slope. And I'm not saying it will happen to everyone, just that the downsides are clear and not nearly enough talked about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 07:10 PM
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I meant more like not ending up like the annoying cat lady no one cares about, if we are talking about extremes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:36 PM
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People can always change their mind, but that doesn't mean they avoid the consequences of previous decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 10:23 AM
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I understand your frustration, but from my perspective it is like complaining that the wind blows and water is wet, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:03 PM
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I mostly agree, but you can do well anyway yourself if you adjust to this reality and are not stupid (or at least above average, which I'd argue you are just by thinking about this, which most people are not). I personally don't think it is up to anyone to "fix the humanity", instead people should focus on what affects them directly - in that sense, I don't care what man some random woman chooses (and I do my best to support those bad choices the least I can - by paying the lowest possible taxes…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 08:50 PM
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You are right, it is pathetic, but also true. From another perspective - if the men who are "likely to get sex and women" did not get the women in the first place, they would be mostly desperate in the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 03:05 PM
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I suppose it is obvious but I did not see it mentioned in the comments - if you really want to lose weight, it will not be through excercise, you can expect maybe 20% from that. Most of the weight loss must come from eating differently than you do now. And I don't mean just temporary diet.
/r/RedPillWomen20/08/23 02:24 PM
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Yes, but there is no magic or anything the man can do about it. It's because everything just clicked for you. I said this, because In my experience, when I was told in the past "it was nice, but there was no spark" I was always under the impression the problem is on my side, when it is not the case at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 01:36 PM
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There is no such thing as a spark or chemistry, it's simply she likes the other dude(s) more.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 09:12 PM
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Well, even if he agrees, it is you leading the relationship this way and that is what I don't like, especially in something that affect a man so seriously. Or maybe he asked for it first and he is fine with you leading, that is also completely ok :)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 09:07 PM
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If she is already into you, showing a bit the dark side is very attractive to her, that is no surprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 09:01 PM
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I see it the other way around - if you do any kind of regular physical activity, you are already ahead of most people. Now for the appearance/sport it's highly subjective I believe, but I do find funny the guys with big chest and no legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 08:57 PM
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Well, in my view, marriage was invented partly to prevent what you are describing. But we screwed it up monumentally, lol. And to answer, it is not fair, but life is not fair, now it's time to move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 08:53 PM
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I will answer again, because this question got stuck in my head and I could not determine why I don't like it, now I know: if asked like - "what do you think about getting a vasectomy" I would not have problem discussing, but asking someone to do something like that straight away means the person asking is clearly in charge of the relationship and that is a huge red flag for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 08:47 PM
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No, because it is not the same at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 08:32 PM
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Well, hopefully she only wants to sleep with her husband anyway, otherwise it was very bad marriage choice. And that goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 08:31 PM
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Hopefully anyone asking such question does not make it till the wife phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 08:15 PM
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Why do you think you define what is cheating? And condom and hormonal birth control is not at all guarantee there will be no child. I feel if woman wants to ask her man to undergo unnecessary surgery like this, she should in return allow this, even if the man chooses not to act on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 09:45 PM
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Yes, but under the condition I can fuck any woman I want - it would not matter anymore right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 09:35 PM
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They say the beasts come out to the gym early in the morning though.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/06/23 08:55 PM
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Wealthy not so sure, but a retired pensioner yeah, you go girl!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/06/23 08:53 PM
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Yeah, but by avoiding the complex heavy lifts you actually take away what is useful in the real world.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/23 06:48 PM
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I can't agree. Do you really want to only build muscles to attract women? I don't think that's how it works. I lift because I want to be strong and for longevity, the looks are secondary.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/23 10:31 AM
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Sorry for the offtopic, but you do like your animals!
/r/TheRedPill07/06/23 04:59 AM
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It is causing direct harm I think right now, especially for the less smart girls. Take the new "missing" Netflix movie - it only focuses on the man being the bad one, support for divorce and against abusive spouse etc, but it completely misses the fact it was initially the mother who choose this evil man on her own and probably over many more stable options.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 12:01 PM
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Usually I more or less resonate with the posts here but in this instance it's not the case at all. If you are actually avoiding doing the work you are paid for, your are being the bitch - as a woman who brings no value, just assumes it is enough to exist. Instead, IMHO, it is better to actually learn some skill that you enjoy doing and is in demand and get paid for doing that.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/23 10:25 PM
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Yeah, I think more and more young people are lost like this. There is no direction in life to be found on social media, only addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 11:29 AM
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Why not both?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/03/23 09:36 PM
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You claim women were slaves for most of the history with no explanation, let alone proof. Yet you require an elaborate explanation for any ideas you might not like, how typical.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 09:42 PM
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It is literally this one culture against the rest od the world. But I'm curious - how was Japan different?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 09:37 PM
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Well, if women were slaves then most men were disposable tools that never reproduced, that is hardly a constructive approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 09:36 PM
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What do you mean study? Do you know what the famous "1000 cocks stare" is? And it does affect men too - I'd say the less IQ and self control you have and the more hot you are, the worse. But for men it's usually rather an achievement for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 09:33 PM
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It is true, but probably not how you think. I believe the world we live in today, or rather I'd say our civilization, is a result of clever social engineering and the promise of pussy. My belief is, that the main thing prevention human progress and specialization was always how to make the 80 or 90% men who would historically (10th thousands of years) not reproduce at all to contribute to society - hence religion and all the similar bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 10:08 PM
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Leg shortening? Wtf advice is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 09:43 PM
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This is true and I think these areas to approach are still shrinking. For example, when starting my career many years ago, I would not have problem asking cute colleague out. Nowadays, with the HR policies in place, I would not do it whatsoever, if I value the position at least a bit. Similarly when shopping or in the gym - in the past there was maybe the quick rejection and few awkward minutes, but nowadays the risks are much higher.
/r/RedPillWomen21/02/23 01:52 PM
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Are we still allowed to ask such questions here, lol?
/r/RedPillWorkplace25/01/23 07:40 PM
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No. This is just another storm in a teacup. It could be solution for some people, but mostly those who get ignored by women already. I also like the fembot & biocunt joke, but it's not that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 07:53 AM
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From my perspective, any woman using social media, let alone OLD, for validation is a big liability even if she is truly interested in you. I know personal trainer who despite having thousands of followers was sexless for a year and when she did have date/sex was dumped within a week. Similarly, a millionaire in her 40s, who is mostly alone with few failed dating attempts since simply no man (she could keep) is good enough. I think sadly we are heading towards more loneliness, not just for the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 05:12 PM
0

Oh, I'm sure there were no signs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 10:41 PM
1

How does TRP relate to parenting at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 10:38 PM
1

This is quite misguided. It is like asking "how can I spot a man carrying a gun not to date him". Which is a valid preference, but it is no indicator if he uses it for good or bad, it's about the men himself. In the same way, if someone knows red pill does not tell you if the relationship will be good or bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 10:20 PM
9

Is the bear shape also an option?
/r/TheRedPill28/11/22 05:15 PM
1

So you are suggesting to solve this by doing what is in your job description? That does not seem very helpful and not fun at all.
/r/TheRedPill19/11/22 07:34 AM
15

I understand it is a sad situation, actually for everyone involved, but I don't think this is the right forum.
/r/RedPillWomen16/11/22 11:03 PM
1

Literally YEARS of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:42 PM
-1

Yes, but here the problem who women find ugly comes in. It is not an objective measure at all, quite the contrary, she constantly compares the man to all the other available ones. And in the age of OLD, more and more men are deemed ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:23 PM
1

It wasn't just about it, but I do believe women were larger motivation in these inventions than people usually give credit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:21 PM
4

If our western civilization really eventually fails, it will be because of attitudes like yours, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 07:36 AM
1

For her it is...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 07:33 AM
2

What is wrong with beef and onions??? Also, why are you shouting?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 07:29 AM
13

It is part of it, but not at all the main problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 07:25 AM
2

By the "men modern women want" you mean basically the man that does not exist, hence the women are also more and more lonely in general? Sorry, but you are just proving the point you are trying to argue against.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 07:22 AM
-2

The main problem is, if you never "had it", you are just a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 06:58 AM
2

Not just sex industry tho, but really any, as most of the inventions done by men was in one way or another done to impress women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 06:56 AM
3

They have too much to choose from. Before the internet they had maybe few hundred suitors at best, now it's millions. Also men spend their time gaming and getting fat not making the choice any better. But as a man, this is the wrong question to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 11:37 PM
5

You realize this is a forum for women whose goal is mostly to find the right man to marry?
/r/RedPillWomen05/11/22 11:04 PM
7

You mention your standards, others will talk about it as tingles or chemistry, but your ex was not your prince charming at all, was he? I believe you can change who you are attracted to, if you really want, but it's not an easy process.
/r/RedPillWomen02/11/22 09:29 PM
2

I wish more women thought about it this way, it would make many of the problems discussed here way easier to solve.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 06:17 AM
-1

This thread is hilarious, it's like it poked all the radical feminists here lol, probably hit home hard by accident. I'm only waiting for the duel invites to start coming in.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 07:01 PM
1

Ok, now it gets interesting, but please refrain from the personal attacks or I will stop responding.. So you say "violate so many citizens", but that is already happening as I described, so why it should be only these lonely men being used? Why to the moon? Because it is inspiring and makes way more sense to me than supporting single mom's bad choices. In the end, everyone would benefit from it, like it was the case with all the discoveries from the shuttle program trickling in to the daily life…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 08:57 PM
1

First of all, sorry, but I'm on the phone so you'll have to do without the citations, but here we go: I personally want the state to do less. In the same way the state does not grant me or anyone free sex, it should not grant the women the easy pass. If it has to do something, let's redirect all the welfare budget to getting back to the moon. This would also help solve the dating situation a bit, because the women would have to be way more reasonable in their partner choices. And no, it's not th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 08:39 PM
1

Right, because the children of the single moms on welfare are all doctors and lawyers. And the discussion was about state support, not friends support. About the loving themselves, that is really rude advice. Trust me, their are loving themselves as hard as their hand allows. All in all, you still did not explain why men getting welfare sex by the state is that different to the overwhelming support women get.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 05:11 PM
1

But this is again biased view - when a woman makes a bad decision with her partner choice, the nany state then takes care for her and the child. So there are no consequences at all for her, only options. On the contrary, for men wanting sex/relationship there is no such support concept at all, only the shaming. And, I think you still underestimate how important intimacy is for most men to live happy life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 09:03 AM
1

I'm curious how you can explain that people deserve "water, shelter and food"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 08:38 PM
2

I'm probably experiencing similar urges, and I'm also in mostly happy relationship. Sometimes it even makes me angry at myself, because I feel like an animal when I cannot take eyes from particularly curvy woman and I really don't like it. And what's worse - in that scenario in my eyes I'm no better than the dual mating strategy hoes. But I'm just a human, so I try to pick up myself from every slip up and keep going. And although it haven't led to anything physical in the last few years, there h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 08:11 PM
0

Man, it was like reading about myself lol, but I have a warning - everything has a cost and I'm not sure you are ready to pay it. I'd say first try to find some other hobbies - I find the older I'm, the more I like to do also other things than stuff centered about women. And especially beware the big titted girl from college! I know for a fact she will try to get you in jail after she finds your intentions are not what she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 05:38 PM
2

From purely logical standpoint you might be right, but what difference does it make if you make her feel bad anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 05:52 PM
-1

I partially agree (except the prison part) but you are still wrong - you forgot to account in, that adjusting your standards according to objective reality is a tool of patriarchy. As is any kind of reasonable behavior in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:10 PM
1

I went to look up coda, but even if it would be radical TRP movie, the 13 people watching it would not make a difference. But I'm not surprised you cannot find any examples in the mainstream, 'cause there aren't any. And yes, there are more options, but the men are mostly portraited as weak at best or even more often just as cannon fodder.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 03:31 PM
0

For me, positive role model is about showing the traditional family as a functional and positive thing. Top Gun is cool but in this context about a MGTOW guy who can get a pussy if he is lucky. And don't let me get started on the superhero movies. I'm not aware of any movies about a tennis goat, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 02:18 PM
1

No, it is not mainstream. It is getting popular, yes, but for the 1 guy thinking about these things you will always have the 9 only watching TV and just consuming and accepting the mainstream programming. And when was it last time you saw a commercial with positive male role model, let alone movie?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 08:25 AM
1

Let's revind a bit here - do you have a number for the cookie baking and eating Mabel by any chance? You can keep the slim and fun one, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 09:43 PM
4

The right question to ask is: Do we really want an average man to be able to move on easily? I would say yes for the man himself but a big no no for the whole society.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 08:53 PM
0

Good companions yes, but you don't find that on a dating app.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 06:32 PM
1

No need to thank, I also think it's shallow, but I'm not mad about it at all, it's just rather sad like I said. And yes, you should be the best version of yourself, but I just cannot help but feel women nowadays have usually so little to offer while they expect so much work from a man just to meet then...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 03:13 PM
-1

I remember going on a date few years back with a girl and when asked why she was single she was like, "I met this 20 other guys on the dating app and selected the best one, but then he left me, how rude, right?". I have not stopped laughing since.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 10:02 PM
5

TLDR: Looks first, don't be a plumber. Also, you can have bad teeth just don't be fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 09:55 PM
0

I'm glad you made it work, or at least it sounds so. These demands are so ridiculous, lol, but if a girl is so shallow it should not be so hard to turn it around anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 09:52 PM
2

Thanks for this drop of truth in the sea of lies here, however sad or funny I might find it. Also, I'm so glad I'm out of the dating market, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 09:48 PM
2

I also used to see the world black and white like this, oh those were the days, but you'll probably grow out of it. Close reddit and go out for a run or something :)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 08:12 PM
5

It is, OLD and social media are IMHO returning the dating in the ancient unregulated state. Is it a good thing though? I don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 05:17 AM
–

On the other hand, I don't know any woman who has travelled and "had fun" in her youth and now is a good mother and wife. Kudos if you are the exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 04:50 AM
–

But most women don't even care let alone think about this and they will certainly not hear about it in the mainstream media, so the multiple partners usually just destroys them. It's really the same as porn for men I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 04:45 AM
1

It's like going through a street full of nice restaurants with people enjoying their dinners and bright signs welcoming you but when you try to enter you are thrown out. If you don't get to a restaurant at least sometimes it starts getting in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 10:27 AM
1

Can I get my age-grinder flair please? Sounds kind of cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 04:00 PM
1

Can I get my age-grinder flair please? Sounds kind of cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 04:00 PM
1

Maybe she mattered in the high school, so many times. Then less so in the college even so much more times... The world is not black and white.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 10:20 PM
2

Good to see the wormhole VPN to Alpha Centauri is still stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 10:10 PM
1

I'm your father.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 10:08 PM
4

I'm an optimist, so I think they are just trolls. Makes for a funny thread nevertheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 10:06 PM
2

This is an interesting topic, when I look 20 years back, my standards have changed almost to the opposite: From 95% big tits and 5% everything else to currently probably 60% be helpful in the relationship and 40% have some ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 10:15 PM
4

I think they would be less bitter about it if the woman after having some fun in the 20s would be self aware, loving and really helpful in the relationship, but I'm afraid we are seeing the opposite. On a side note - it is my belief if a woman wants to secure a really HVM, she should date him and eventually marry from her early 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 10:09 PM
3

This is the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 10:04 PM
7

I get what you are saying, but it all just seems like so much work. I mean, the BJ should be the default if that's what you are into and as wife she should make your life easier in general, not make you dance around. If I should give an advice - just DGAF and do what you want, not what you think makes her want you more. If she really likes you, she will follow.
/r/MarriedRedPill12/07/22 07:49 AM
17

Sorry but I got a bit lost, are you sure you are the man in this relationship ? I sincerely hope it works for you in the end, but it seems you have really long way to go.
/r/MarriedRedPill09/07/22 09:39 PM
1

Let me answer with a question - why it started to be regulated in the first place? I believe it was to get the bottom 80% (or whatever %) contribute to society which allowed to civilization to really rise. Now we are getting back to the "natural" state - more and more men are dropping out from the dating market and in the long run from the society. I don't think that's good for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 09:01 PM
2

Actually no. Personally I'm not concerned at all, even less so I'm inclined to tell people what they should or should not do. However, I do believe that we (as society) are loosing in general by this uncontrolled sexual wilderness the dating marked is today. And yes, I can explain why I think it is in case anyone is interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 08:34 PM
1

You are missing my point. Or you want to deny the rise of sexlessness/no-relationship situations?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 08:29 PM
3

Oh we all are going to pay for it in the long run for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 06:59 AM
8

It's not THAT hard if you are a woman. - There, fixed it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 06:58 AM
1

I choose to answer with a song: https://youtu.be/X53ZSxkQ3Ho
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 11:05 AM
1

When looking at the responses here, no wonder that we are dying out lol. In fact, women brought this on themselves when they wanted equality - in my eyes HVW (High value woman) these days is able to work AND take care of the household. The alternative is maybe being young and virgin/low N count.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 05:17 AM
3

I'm on that sub too, what stands out to me is how often the situation presented there is so painfully obvious, yet the comments are completely missing the point. And if you try to point out the real problem, you are often labeled as mysoginist, but that is quite common over all reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 08:08 AM
6

But she won't, because they are invisible to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:00 AM
3

But she won't, because they are invisible to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:00 AM
3

I concur, the value of a man as provider and protector is so not obsolete it's not even funny. Maybe not in terms of how it is needed, but definitely in how women perceive it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:16 AM
2

It's not entirely on the woman though. If a man nowadays marries 8+ woman with Instagram or something worse, he should act accordingly, otherwise the result is in most cases inevitably as you describe.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/22 06:05 PM
10

What a story, good for you!
/r/TheRedPill15/06/22 06:00 PM
7

It is never really discussed between woman to avoid slut shaming and also they might genuinely see most of these men as friend, but I actually tested this long time ago with an ex - she truly did not believe these long term friends would have sex with her, but when she asked them directly to go out etc, no one said no, it was like 6-10 guys she was in touch maybe once a year. So a classy woman will not act on this but there are always backups, definitely in terms of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 11:08 AM
2

It was certainly harder having 10+ women before entering a stable relationship, rather than if I had 2-3 prior. I can only imagine how hard it is for a woman whose numbers are in triple digits, especially because I do believe the branch swinging urge is way stronger in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 01:07 PM
2

I don't need a study for what I have experienced myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 11:03 AM
3

Actually you can see this all over the place, including in popular media the articles how hard it's to find a good man. i would like to think the percentage is decreasing but there is really no support for women holding back at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 06:58 PM
2

Oh, I see, still I think you will see the results later.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 06:54 PM
2

If it does not make you more prone to cheating good for you, but then you are not really the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 06:48 PM
6

Typo, why DON'T you think it's real. Or you believe person can fuck 200 people and then settle down in a happy relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 06:42 PM
-1

Why do you think what I mentioned is not real? Way more serious problem than the STDs IMHO.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 06:31 PM
-8

Even worse than the two, there is also the loss of ability to pair bond and especially for women, the inability to be attracted to her looksmatch
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 06:29 PM
5

For me, the worry is while maybe minority, the percentage of women behaving like this is still growing and in the long run ending up unhappy. Also, it means less sex for the lower 80% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 06:20 PM
-1

Yet, more and more women keep doing that...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 06:17 PM
9

Yes, but, also they should be aware of the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 06:16 PM
1

The Chads, eg. a men in the top 5% can have multiple women at the same time and many choose to do so, do you want deny that? Some may go for the LTR with a hot woman but some may just choose the easy mode and go with the multiple average women, it has even it's term in TRP - spinning plates - so you claim such a men do not exist in real life?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 06:10 PM
2

I can provide. Of course nothing specific personally, but I know (in person) a gym girl/trainer who constantly posts on Instagram - you know the type. She has Instagram following in thousand yet she did not have sex for a year. Then, it happened but the guy left her with thin few dates - after he got what he wanted. That is a real world example of what was described here and it will only rise.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 05:01 PM
5

Why a woman should not work AND clean, split bills etc? IMHO that is the only way a woman can secure a HVM as they call it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 06:19 AM
1

Why make it personal? I think you would find my Instagram quite boring, it was a general question.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 09:10 AM
1

No, I mentioned posting for validation. You would not post your family for validation, or at least I hope so.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 09:08 AM
0

But what if the world is not so black and white as you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 08:03 AM
1

Pardon my redneck german, you are welcome to articulate better.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 02:58 PM
2

They are equivalent in how they are damaging to the person doing them and also to the relationship the men watching porn and woman posting herself on social media might have.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 02:56 PM
2

I like your analysis but you are not going to CMV like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 02:53 PM
-2

Not just posting pictures, but posting pictures and interacting with other men to get validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 02:51 PM
-3

Where did I say that? Also, the question was not about me, but rather that if woman wants her man not to watch porn she should act accordingly and not watching porn is not it IMHO.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 02:49 PM
1

Are we back in 19th century or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 10:09 PM
0

Actually the more weapons are in the country carried by ordinary people the safer it is.
/r/RedPillWomen31/05/22 09:26 PM
7

I agree with the second part but it's a no for the beginning. She can only make the next guy wait the same time as the shortest time it has been before (roughly), otherwise it's what we call the dual mating strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 09:55 PM
5

4 and 8 weeks is the same ballpark IMHO. What we are talking about is 4 weeks vs 6 hours or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 09:50 PM
1

I can't tell if this is genuine or not, but it very well may be. I could add a lot of funny remarks but I'll just say that I might have very well been that guy, hadn't there been for TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 09:48 PM
1

Why would you hate women for this? It's just the reality. Do you also get angry at a strong wind?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 12:56 PM
-1

Let's be real, for men probably 80% or more women are attractive, especially if we talk about shorter term.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 01:44 PM
1

I'm a neurosurgeon, I could be lying though. Jokes aside, even if there would be such professions, it's hardly the men are sexless because they don't understand women, it would be because women are women and unregulated are picky as... I mean, they have very narrow preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 01:27 PM
1

No. While it's not an ideal situation to be in, there are much bigger problems that are not only not solved but even encouraged/made worse, although probably mostly unknowingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 01:25 PM
2

So basically like woman dating :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 09:51 PM
4

That is what women want men to think, not what they are doing, especially in the context of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 09:47 PM
4

If only there was a way a sad fate like this could be prevented. I think there was something that could help, but sadly we mostly can't talk about it anymore. Ah, maybe, was it responsibility and accountability? But no, those must be only the tools of patriarchy.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/04/22 12:14 PM
2

I just don't think the purpose for having sex for humans is only to have children, it's too much fun for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 06:03 PM
1

You can hardly blame me for non-conservative views. IMHO, it's just not about the birth control, that is just a tool, but rather the way sex is presented and viewved today.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 06:01 PM
2

I agree, but sex with no strings attached and without birth control are two very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:45 PM
2

I'm not judging, but I guess only someone not having good quality sex or not having it at all can have this opinion. So to CYV you probably need to experience it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:41 PM
1

Just to be clear, in my view, the women ARE to blame in the same way as the Chad - no one forced them to hook up with him (at least I hope so, as that's completely different story), but rather they choose him over other men, better suited for long term relationship. And if you like to think about this topic - consider this: What is the end goal? I mean, if we are just supposed to have fun and no responsibility, then this behavior is not so bad. But, when you think about it, rarely any of these s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 08:07 AM
3

I think the blame is on both sides - for the Chad, that he does what he does, but for the women that they actually wanted to have anything with him. And that it's not just a question of manipulation, but also education. The woman should know what is the outcome of such relationship or even one night stand. Yet, this is something you would be ostracized for just speaking about in this day and age.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 05:37 PM
5

What I find sad is in the past, this kind of a man would have harder time with the women, given the social restrictions. Nowadays however with no regulation they can reign free and spoil the women in large quantities also for other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 10:43 PM
1

To me, visiting a prostitute is like smoking or excessive drinking - it's everyone's choice, but not healthy at all, rather to me it's losing the game before it even started. Now, there is definitely more to get in a relationship than from the whore, but it's true that it's getting harder and harder to find. The average modern woman expects all the treats and provides nothing in return as for the most of her life it's just enough to exist, especially if she has social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 12:18 PM
1

I never want to tell anyone what to do, it is true though that if I see a married woman with different surname, I cannot help but question (in my mind) if she is really sure about the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 06:10 PM
0

This is an argumentation fail. It's like saying being raped is a choice. I understand though, that from most women perspective, it is just not comprehensive as to why there are all the male virgins complains.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 08:35 PM
6

I highly doubt these body types anymore. Yes, there are predispositions, but anybody (not active) can get way stronger/faster. It's always serious effort though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 06:31 AM
2

I'm not going to CYV, just wanted to add how sad it makes me to see not only that there is no benefit but even worse, there is no intention to make it really beneficial for men again. Quite the opposite, and it's even somehow even presented like a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 11:52 PM
11

There is plenty. They are just not visible, let alone attractive for the modern woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 01:51 PM
7

Like I said, I'm not mad about anyone else, more like myself, for following the narrative (pick one woman, marry her for life) even if it understandably made the girls in high school just laugh instead of being interested in me as I was not beta, but omega those days. And this is exactly the problem TRP solves, and it can happen at any age, it is just harder the older you are. Nowadays, I'm happy how things are with me. Just little bit sad when I see the rants here and there of the women who are…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 07:25 PM
14

Personally I was mostly mad at myself when I discovered TRP. I don't like to tell others what to do, but it explained a lot why I sucked so bad in highschool and later. Like it was said here already the "beta" men are still the most needed kind of people but at the same time currently the most overlooked. Hell, even marriage itself was originally introduced to ensure they got a woman and they built this society in return. But now? Not only women are not interested in dating these men, they are d…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 06:52 PM
1

I did not find myself in the list, wonder if that is a good or bad thing, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:45 PM
1

For an average man in highschool it really really does not work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 10:13 AM
5

Lol, this is so good and sad at the same time.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/02/22 10:36 PM
1

Damaged and brainwashed? That pretty much says it all. Fortunately you can save us all with your politically correct approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 08:56 AM
1

Can you stick to the question? So in your opinion any woman who chooses to be submissive is low value and miserable?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 07:47 PM
1

I'm definitely fucked in the head. Nevertheless - I'm not forcing anyone to submissive role, that would not work at all. I'm just saying if a woman chooses to be submissive, it does not make her less value, but rather usually more happy than the other alternatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 08:10 PM
1

You are lower on the hierarchy but that does not mean you are less, that is what Im trying to say. So from another perspective - you think the 80% or whatever majority it is of women enjoying the submissive role in relationship would be better of in equal one? And choosing a partner is beside the point, I just see submissive woman as much higher value than equal let alone dominant one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 07:08 PM
1

You keep repeating the same statement as OP, that submissive woman is less value than an equal one. I'm arguing it's the exact opposite. Of course it is a spectrum and even people who identify as submissive are that each to another degree. Also, you have to realize people never were nor they are equal nowadays, there is always difference and if you learn to embrace that and not fight it, you are always better off. The reason why I keep arguing about this, is that you realistically can have only …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 03:49 PM
1

Not inferior, but his complement. Actually this kind of relationship is very much beneficial to both parties and makes both people feel better than when they are alone, if done right. Compared to the modern equal relationship, which is basically an exhausting competition between man and woman to never do anything more or less than the other. Also, do you realize some women actually enjoy caring for their family? It includes cleaning and cooking as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 02:11 PM
1

Submission in relationship means he leads and she follows. It does not make her lower value - actually the opposite - an ideal partner any men should cherish. Compare that to a "strong independent woman" who does not cook or clean and nags her man to the death about being equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 10:42 PM
1

But still - by what measure submission means she is inferior? In my view, if a woman submits in a relationship her value goes up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 03:20 PM
1

What tides? A man is a man and woman is a woman. While submissive men exist, they are minority But anyway - the point was that a submissive woman is somehow less value, which I just can't agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 10:17 PM
1

Yes, but how does it makes them degraded? In my view the "strong independent woman" is much less value than the feminine and submissive type.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 06:31 PM
1

Please explain how being submissive degrades women? I think it is the exact opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:28 PM
4

I'd argue that the men who change because of women will get laid the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 03:04 PM
2

What? Isn't wanting to fuck someone the highest level of attraction, eg. liking someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 03:02 PM
4

Still, it is up to the woman to find a man who will take care of her and not leave, but that is rarely the man who excites her the most - hence the single mother pandemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 12:46 PM
3

No, the reason is the men the single mothers are choosing over the guys who truly want family with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:44 AM
0

Want, yes, but not a woman many men have slept with. Again, I believe there is very different perception of men and women with high N count and it's for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 11:18 AM
0

No, for men, being able to get any woman they want is IMHO the endgame - it means the man is really high value. But then, like with everything, it depends on what they do with it, so it's not about if it is good or bad, it's just very different to what happens when woman wants more men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 07:07 AM
2

This question implies women and men are equal. They are not. It is infinitely easier for a woman to get sex compared to a man, especially in their teens. Therefore, while both are not the best things in the world, women and men sleeping around are apples and oranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 09:53 PM
1

Okay, then please explain the reasons you think it's happening for.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 08:39 AM
3

Yes, but that is part of the problem - Sweden got very soft, like almost the whole EU, because the idea of strong protective men is discouraged and basically even the male politicians behave like little girls. This policy in turn advocates for more immigrants and ban to talk about their bad behavior. So by making the men weaker the whole Europe is weaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 08:37 AM
1

You did not answer my question tho, I don't feel entitled for woman's attention, let alone anything more and I'm just fine as I'm now, but still I find this development sad like I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:56 PM
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It won't be thousands of years, more like 3-4 generations to see real changes, look at Sweden.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:53 PM
1

You are right that I had relationships issues and it's huge understatement at that, but currently I'm really happy, just sad when I see a woman with 50k+ Instagram followers who is single for a year and not for a lack of trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 05:50 PM
3

What if I'm not bitter at all, cause the sexlessness is not my problem, but I still think the rise of men "not getting any" does extrapolate to problems in society? This is also talked about in the RP communities - ie. "Enjoy the decline".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 03:57 PM
9

It is not requirement, it only happens because it is illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 06:11 AM
1

Define better looking? It seems weird to compare women and men in terms of looks. Also, in my country women in general are not that fat, but I guess this is way worse in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 07:48 AM
6

No, you are completely missing the point, it's about consistency. Also, there is not really a way back from being a party hoe.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 02:33 PM
1

I agree with you this the reality nowadays, but it begs the question if it really should be? Anyway, I guess some people just want to see the world burn.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 02:01 PM
9

In socialism, there is a department for everything.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/11/21 12:25 PM
1

If you are a woman - yes. If you are a man - no one cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 01:53 PM
1

Well, there will always be men who are not chosen by a woman, but the real problem starts when women see 80% men as below average. And wrong in terms of if the woman is looking for a LTR - if she competing with many women for the top men, then it is very hard to get commitment. So in the end, more and more people will stay alone, which is I believe what we are already seeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 08:40 AM
1

I'm not upset about feminism, rather it makes me sad what has become from initially such a great idea. So, just to be clear, you believe if women are left to choose men completely on their own, with no consequences what so ever or even the ability to talk about what happens when they choose wrong, as it is happening now, things will just work fine on their own?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 10:00 PM
1

Right, it is never 50/50, in reality what works that everyone plays their part, sort of divide the areas of expertise. And men tend to gravitate towards fixings things and providing for the family and woman towards the childer and keeping the fire going at home. The 50/50 is like having a cat and a dog and trying to distribute their duties evenly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 09:55 PM
1

It is, because it is the difference between what you are doing and what your age saying - you don't have children, yet you want to direct others how they should behave around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 05:26 PM
1

Yes but what they will find attractive can be changed, that is what marriage IMHO was originally about after all - not about happiness or whatever but to distribute women more evenly and get more men to be productive and less fighting about women. Nowadays this is not even talked about, but instead the destruction of society is advocated by feminists as a good thing and freeing women from patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 05:24 PM
4

Well you are just avoiding the question here - it's not about what defines a good father or stability, it's that what we see nowadays - especially on OLD - that it's the shallow (ie. not speaking about long-term relationship potential) traits like height and looks, which determine which man gets what the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 09:21 AM
8

Fair enough - each to their own, however I'm not sure how you can say women should split child care 50/50 while not having children yourself - that is just hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 09:16 AM
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It is a terrible experience, but the problem is on what basis is the modern woman choosing a man? It is certainly not based on how stable and father oriented he is. So being more picky about men does not seem to be solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 08:01 AM
12

I'm really curious if you personally are doing all the cooking, cleaning and caring for children? Mostly I see the "woke" women complaining about this while they don't really do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 07:56 AM
7

Haha, the post reminded me of that interview too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 07:52 AM
1

Yeah, so she left him for the million other choices, not for the AF, I get your point. Well, I cannot argue with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 02:04 PM
1

Yes, apart from going back in time and preventing her to fuck with the first man, because as he said himself, he was never the first choice which is really shitty starting position to begin with. Successful marriage from this position is certainly possible but very unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 01:27 PM
6

Do you have any publicly available information that could confirm this? The old Okcupid data is no longer even on their site and I often still see argued that a man just has to try a bit harder and he'll have more success. But, I guess they would shoot themselves in the leg by publishing this.
/r/TheRedPill09/11/21 01:18 PM
3

I think it's pretty clear what happened - she dumped him because he was never her first choice and because this behavior is now encouraged. Only thing he could do is to not marry her at all. What is the nuance I'm missing?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 12:54 PM
1

I believe it is a common knowledge in TRP that most women nowadays only care about the result and not the journey - that is what marriage was about, but it's no longer the case. Also, by being a beta who becomes and alpha or however you want to call it, you are screwing with her genetically encoded instincts. For a typical woman, someone who is just a provider to her, cannot ascend to be the man she desires, even if he becomes a billionaire and wins a body building competition. And not only that…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 10:39 AM
2

It's not exact sience, but I'd say it's getting worse (or better, if you are in the top percentage).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 10:33 AM
2

And you are right not to talk about it. The women saying they will not date RP men are scared to the bone by the fact that a nerd can make it to the 10% - it destroys the balance of choice they need - to be able to pick the top percentage. So it is quite understandable, although a bit sad - that you can't really be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 11:15 PM
1

Yeah, I know, but onlyfans does not count.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 08:44 PM
6

Are you in a relationship if you don't have sex though?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 04:52 PM
1

I'd say it's pretty great overall. Yes, OLD is bad, but it also lowers the work an average man has to put in to real life encounters. On the woman's side, if she is smart about it, she can also have the best man she can get. So I'd say it's today's world, just without the censorship of how things really work and Disney delusions pumped in the common man/woman from grammar school.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 07:34 AM
2

I would choose option c.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 08:58 PM
4

So you think they are both happy with the arrangement? I guess thata the best outcome of all.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/21 08:36 PM
12

Haha, I was looking forward to one of those generic Carol stories, but it was an actual Sarah, even better!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/21 09:01 AM
1

I agree, but this is how most men operate, mostly because they don't have choice - they dont have easy access to sex at almost any age/shape/form like women do. It would be nice also if the woman decides to wait before commiting but she also has to do it for everyone or it is just a lie - that is what I was arguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 10:08 PM
3

There are still many good reasons, they are not talked about often enough though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 09:18 PM
0

It is perfectly reasonable because if you keep the man waiting for third date, week or whatever and there was previously someone who did not have to wait, the current man is objectively lower on the scale of your attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 09:15 PM
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If the woman had in the past sex on a first date, it is very reasonable to expect the same in new relationship. However the issue is not as much the sex itself - if you delay if for whatever reason compared to the other intercourses it just make the man feel less than the ones who had it immediately and that it is not a good start or a relationship at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:51 PM
3

This was a suggestion for OP as she clearly is missing the men's perspective on this. Obviously she will not dress like a man and go asking around woman for numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 07:26 AM
5

You can only ask this question if you don't know how modern dating is for average men. Create men's profile on OLD and you'll see.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 08:48 PM
3

In short - no. Even if it was as dangerous as you claim, which I don't agree with, in the today's women biased dating men need any advantage they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 06:39 PM
1

So, as a native, what you think is the culprit of today's dating/family situation in Japan? I'm not advocating OP"s argument at all, just really curious about your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 02:36 PM
1

You nailed it with the second paragraph - because it implies they think about such things, but that is not the case for average woman (or a man for that matter). It pains me to say it, but stastictically average person is a sheep who does not think much about self improvement. So in that light - an average man IS doing enough and if there is an adjustment needed I strongly believe it is on the women's side. And just to be clear - it is not a complaint from myself personally, I'm just fine how th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 09:00 PM
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Basically yes, more and more women go from looking for a boyfriend to competing to be in such harem, you see these in every shopping mall more and more often: empty look, design clothes and thousands of Instagram followers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 11:17 AM
2

Oh, the dreaded selfie stick strikes again.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/10/21 08:20 PM
2

Not sure if you are asking seriously, I'm not an expert by any means, but I read somewhere these devices are created to ensure the best headphone experience for audiophiles etc, hence the real ears.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 08:18 PM
2

I'd say recording an opera for a super accurate playback? A failsafe should be built in, so that in case someone tries to lick it, it will self destruct.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 02:37 PM
3

I'm pretty sure this is not a correct way to use such an expensive recording device. Hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 01:19 PM
1

Am I the only one repulsed by the amount of makeup and/or filters on the right? Not even talking about the 1000 cocks stare.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 10:09 AM
1

Wrong again, only you hold the key to your self worth. Measuring it by how many women you can "score" sounds really sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 11:07 AM
2

Fair enough, my English seems to be really lazy today :) It is definitely an interesting perspective, I can totally see how it would made society more productive in general which is something I find myself thinking about often - how can we function better not just as individuals but as a society.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 02:25 PM
1

You mean my reply is not focused enough? What does that even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 05:01 AM
6

It is an interesting idea that like you said, maybe in the past many men needed help to get a woman and that is now gone. I for one was a perfect example - not that I need it now, but back in my high school days I can totally imagine a arranged wedding, if the girl agreed of course, and just focusing on my job etc. Instead, it was quite different story. And yes, I'm way stronger as a result, but also lot of effort was wasted in non-productive ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 08:41 PM
1

I really don't care how great you are, I don't even care what is your actual gender. It was a discussion point - if you feel your options of men choice are limited, you just don't know where to look or your standards are too high. What I'm trying to say that what you feel might be your personal view, that men are useless (or bad investment or whatever you want to call it), but that is simply not true. Nobody is perfect, but the most reliable men are often the most "boring" from a modern quick vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 03:58 PM
9

The gender differences which evolved over 1000s years will no go away because some leftist minority says so, people will start to discover to truth more and more anyway. What I find sad is how we improved our ability to communicate, but we use it to spread lies about such an important topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 06:02 AM
1

Ok, so I try to be more specific - by not working on yourself (which includes learning how to find a good life partner) and choosing only the men who are hot but not reliable in general, you then cannot expect the men who are "left" for you be perfect - you just have to work on the relationship you have if you want one. Now, why is it better to have good partner rather than career and money or even children without father? That should be pretty clear, but it's everyone's choice. However, there a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 05:57 AM
1

So you basically just care what is good for you and don't mind to see the world burn. Also, I don't know why you always have to make it personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 08:00 PM
0

If you view a long term relationship as an investment then it's indeed better to not have one, it's the same with kids. The problem I see with this approach is that it is the men, you despise here, who made all this independence possible. What happens if they start to leave the dating market in large numbers given the unrealistic expectations of women like you? I don't think we want to find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 09:00 AM
1

I think it's not that simple. People in general are objectively was more rich by far than 100 or even 50 years ago, now does it make them happier? I think it should, if they are able to see how much better and easier they have it than their ancestors. But, feminism is like any other -ism - the basic idea is good but when taken to extreme with no balance of counter ideas people eventually start dying. While we are not there yet, I do think it uneccesarily makes people unhappy as the other options…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 01:27 PM
2

I think this just comes down to people being extremely lazy nowadays. I'm very lazy myself but still it took minimal effort to keep my place at not great but a livable level. But I feel more and more people will just complain on the internet how hard it is to clean up, instead of actually doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 01:14 PM
1

Better in what way? If he felt above some people, it was exactly the same as the hoes he was after choosing the football players over him - not exactly his fault. I'm not saying he was some perfect person, but in my eyes it is still the girls who should be called out on their behavior before we start criticize Michael.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 04:04 PM
2

I resonate with this, I don't know what is OP's degree if any, but there are certainly lot of men who simply did not have time or even interest to "socialize" during college. I feel it is just not right to just tell them - you did not socialize enough so you cannot have higher value woman - seems to me just like a bad direction for both genders in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 03:03 PM
0

The point was it is mostly women with unrealistic expectations nowadays (especially those using OLD). And that men should be aware of this and simply not commit to these types. IMHO the dating options improved immensely for women and dwindled a bit for men in general, compared to say 50 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 09:26 PM
2

I will answer with a question: Why a sane man nowadays would commit for anything serious with a woman who is not working and managing the household at the same time? Just does not make sense. Unless he likes to clean up, but that is surely only minority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 01:59 PM
1

That is the question - ideally they should marry men around the same age, how marriage was designed, but given the current state of affairs I'm afraid we'll just see less and less marriages overall, let alone happy ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 10:03 PM
1

No, currently best time for woman is as early as possible and for a man never.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:29 PM
1

The more I think about this, the more I incline to the opinion that marriage and these "traditional" roles are indeed an invention of more organized societies and not natural at all. I would also go as far as saying it is not necessarily good for everyone involved, but I do believe it is still better than the alternatives in the long run. As you said - most of these disorganized societies which still exists today are hunters and gatheres, I don't think it's a coincidence. So, to be even be able …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 09:14 PM
1

Lol, stop assuming who I'm attracted to and focus a bit so you can answer the question - is or is not most western women now addicted to the constant validation on social media?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:55 AM
1

You mean the women using social media for validation? Unfortunately that is now becoming a majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 03:14 PM
1

I think the two most common "betas" (although I think it's not black and white, it's alpha/beta are traits and everyone has different mix of them) are the friendzoned Fred, who is obviously not dating, but being an emotional tampon to her crush and on the other end - the divorced/soon to be divorce raped Joe, who just don't understand what happened with his nice wife and wants her back. These are the type of real people I see around a lot and where the beta traits definitely took over, hell, eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 07:52 AM
1

The problem is anything BUT on the men's side. Yes, in the 50s (in US) it was a bit over the top, but now the pendulum is at the other extreme. I know it's unrealistic but the solution would be for women to be more feminine. Not necessarily lowering the expectations, but better not start using the instant validation of OLD or social media at all and learn to support men again instead of competing for the most followers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:49 PM
3

I must admit, there might (or might not) have already been a post on social media of me doing such activities.
/r/TheRedPill21/07/21 08:54 AM
11

I agree, but wait a minute, CrossFit in that list caught me off guard, lol.
/r/TheRedPill20/07/21 09:04 PM
3

I'm glad I'm not longer that guy, but man, this sounded like my highschool diary...
/r/TheRedPill19/07/21 09:37 PM
6

I wish this was talked about more in the mainstream media. Not necessarily as the only thruth but maybe as alternative explanation on what is going on, I suspect we could have less people unhappy that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 09:37 AM
3

I'm not here to convince anybody, let alone say to others what they should or should not do. What I like is to present my view on certain topics and see how others react to it. You could also say I'm here to collect arguments "from the other side" to be prepared for other discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 09:33 AM
2

Sounds like it's cat time, lol.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/07/21 10:02 PM
1

I agree to an extent but it is only part of the problem and not even the main one. It is my belief that marriage was invented to "assign" women more equally than to the top 5-20% men like it is natural without any regulation. And the goal was to move the society as a whole forward. Nowadays I feel like we are just falling back to stone age.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 09:40 PM
1

Is this how an ultimate soccer mom is created? Also, I don't envy the eventual children, seems more like competition rather than childhood from what you have described.
/r/askTRP21/06/21 08:47 PM
6

Are you sure you did actually exist at the time?
/r/askTRP21/06/21 08:39 PM
1

This. In my country, some women started to have two surnames, one hers one from her husband. Even this "compromise" sounds to me like the man is just a tool to her or at least in high probability being divorce raped, if she feels like he does not "behave". She is basically still with one leg in her independent pre-marriage self and we all know where that leads.
/r/askTRP21/06/21 03:17 PM
19

I feel like we don't have the whole story here. Also, it seems weird a man would leave a family for year and half for his another relative, but that's just me.
/r/MarriedRedPill18/06/21 04:11 PM
19

It's not just OF though, most of Instagram and tiktok is also based on this logic of men paying women to just look at them.
/r/askTRP01/06/21 01:34 PM
12

I agree, I see lot of hate towards these women and I think people who are judging them the most are in even worse mess themselves. It's not a noble afair by any means, but like you said, since it is basically encouraged in today's society, they are not really the ones to blame. I just wish there was more talk about the downsides...
/r/askTRP01/06/21 01:32 PM
1

I understand her, she already had all the fun, now it's time for us all to man up and line up to deal with all the serious issues she has. No time to have fun at all - when you are done paying her bills you can also do the dishes.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/05/21 09:47 AM
1

I would be careful with the beach tho, someone might try to pull her into the sea.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/05/21 07:00 AM
4

Right, the dog analogy is a spot on. Sad, but true.
/r/askTRP24/05/21 06:04 AM
12

So in sex you do what she allows and she goes through your phone on regular basis? Are you sure you are the one wearing pants here?
/r/askTRP24/05/21 05:56 AM
23

Yes, it is sad, but this is the actual result feminism and SJWs create. As any other socialism - people are hungry.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/05/21 05:11 AM
4

That is not what OP said. It is actually white people who make these laughable rules and work against themselves.
/r/askTRP23/05/21 04:33 AM
3

I also have this problem, lol. I had to learn to look at the women at work basically like robots. Over longer time period it also helps I'm strong believer in the "don't shit where you eat". It does not help overnight but it certainly helped me to adjust. Outside of work/gym I just don't care & look.
/r/askTRP23/05/21 03:45 AM
2

IMHO the best way is to not ask at all but wait until she tells you. You still won't know the real number but it will be the most accurate. It does not matter anyway because AWALT - Is she is helpful and respectful in general? Does not matter if she has 3 or 20 men before. Is she pain the in the ass? Sluts will be sluts.
/r/askTRP22/05/21 10:19 PM
1

Obviously no LTR material, but Y U no fuck? Sometimes I wish these hoes knew how degenerate they are, but on the other hand good for us....
/r/askTRP22/05/21 09:51 PM
2

Even if she did not already cheat, she most likely will because she has no respect for you. We always have a choice, she already clearly made hers, now it's your turn.
/r/askTRP22/05/21 09:00 PM
1

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/r/askTRP10/05/21 11:13 AM
0

I agree with the intent, but when an average woman (let alone a young one) enters OLD, she is mostly only interested in such dating with men out of her league, hence why such relationships never lasts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 08:19 AM
6

Come on, can we get at least 80% paranoia and 20% truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 08:15 AM
4

The last paragraph is really interesting perspective - not only OLD is destroying women for long term relationship, but it also pushes men to not save up and build their "empire" but rather pose on social media as you mentioned. Truly a disaster on so many levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 07:15 PM
9

Don't be in a room with her alone. And of course talk only business with her, but I hope that comes without saying.
/r/askTRP07/05/21 07:39 PM
3

I like this perspective very much. I wish this could be discussed and argued more openly, but the mainstream will call you conspiracy theorist at best for thinking so, let alone trying to argue why the today's whoring might be bad for us all as society.
/r/askTRP06/05/21 10:26 AM
1

True, but expecting that is like expecting women to change.
/r/askTRP02/05/21 07:39 PM
4

They are part of the problem, but definitely not the ones in control there.
/r/askTRP02/05/21 03:44 PM
3

This. It is not even about a particular fetish - if a woman is really into you she will do almost anything you ask for or better yet, tell her to.
/r/askTRP01/05/21 10:37 PM
0

Right, but this is also not a dating sub by any means whatsoever.
/r/RedPillWomen28/04/21 09:17 PM
0

I think you are posting in the wrong forum, also, unfortunately I'm pretty sure you won't find any high quality women on OLD.
/r/RedPillWomen28/04/21 09:12 PM
0

So you say having responsibility and being there for others is a bad thing? For me it's part of being a grown up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 06:43 PM
1

Yes, and then feeding the birds alone in your 60, 70 and 80s. Thanks, no thanks. Also, if you give partying and having children the same weight, it explains a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 12:05 PM
0

Well, this happens if you see your children as sort of a burden and life as a ride along where someone else takes care of your problems,, which I don't think is the case at all. Our ancestors had it infinitely more hard, still they found a way. I wonder if people start eventually dying because they find breathing or eating too difficult?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 07:12 AM
1

Look, I dont want to go into detail here but I have to and want to i take care of them (almost) every day. Now, you could maybe explain what makes it so hard?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 05:56 AM
1

If they don't have children in my eyes it is indeed a failure. Let me tell you a story: Many years back I had neighbors, they were in their late 20s, both working in a retail store, living with a large dog in a small flat, going twice a year on expensive vacation and not wanting to have children. That was it, there was no direction in their life. And that is the reality for most childless people, there is only one Jay Leno.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 05:46 AM
2

Are you? My first attempt was somewhat hard, but that was only my mistake in planning, second time it's really nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 05:41 AM
1

Instead of attacking my world view, you could explain why you think NOT having children is not pointless. But that is probably too much to ask, I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 05:38 AM
-4

When humans stop wanting to reproduce, they become just pointless traveling and partying machines (or whatever they do). Also having children is not hard, can be even fun, it's just people are becoming more and more lazy. But whatever, go ahead and remove yourself from the gene pool, it will only benefit my descendants.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 08:17 PM
9

Wtf is with the comments, lol, seems like mix of MGTOW and some kids. The LTR/marriage is RP on hard mode for a reason, but for me it is still more satisfying than to waste my time with plates, especially as I get older. Some of my criterions: Good homemaking skills No posting self photos on social media Stable job Submissive No close male friends Of course, nobody is perfect and I'm aware of AWALT, but this has worked quite nicely for me so far, my second take on the whole family business seem …
/r/askTRP23/04/21 08:46 PM
1

See, this is what I'm talking about. It's not actually about who does the dishes but that it simply is woman's responsibility, the same way I don't want her to change the tires or oil. But if you set it up like this - happy when he does it, unhappy when he doesnt - it is just small step from nagging him to do it, which completely kills any good vibe in the relationship IMHO.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 04:56 PM
1

Thanks for your analysis, I could say you would not be happy in the long term in the relationship how you are laying it out, but I'm not here to tell other people what to do. Simply sharing my personal experience and what allows me to make me and the people I care about happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 02:46 PM
1

I see some tendecy for you to organize people's lives, hehe. But it also explains why you think this. Anyway - if it works for you, great! However, for me it is not about being unable to do the cleaning up, it is that I just like when the woman does it, as I like when she is caring and just there for me. It does not mean I won't help, it is just that I like when she is in charge of the household and does not pressure me to do it. And yes, earning enough money as a man comes with it, but it does …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 04:49 AM
2

Still - you think those men would prefer the arrangement where the woman fucks other men over the one where only them have more women? i don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 04:43 AM
7

I have no desire to meet them, but I have read my share of articles and most importantly saw the photos of such men. But maybe you could try to argue why I'm wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 10:33 PM
5

Mostly the first I believe. There are definitely men sharing women even if they have other options but I believe they are very small percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 10:28 PM
7

Not all of them but I hear this is sadly on the rise. And usually because he just likes the girl and tries to win her over or he agrees to "open relationship".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 10:26 PM
20

Cucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 10:20 PM
-2

It's quite simple - when a man does the chores and cooking and it's not by choice or mutual agreement, but "because equality" it already means the woman has zero respect for him. And at the same time, when he can do it, the only need remaining is sex which can be obtained way easier and in less risky ways. I think either way no one is really winning as people just end up alone. Maybe the feminist and SJW are the only winners, although on a soiled grounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 10:17 PM
0

You did good I think! Getting a number on a cold approach, excellent work. On a side note, it would be nice if there would be something like ATC for dating: "Djsputty on approach to hb7, this is halifax appartment complex ground control, maintain eye contact, climb to the car when able" You get the drill.
/r/askTRP22/04/21 10:00 PM
4

They definitely are, but when woman is able to restrain herself (and the same applies to men), she can decide what is good for her in the long run and act appropriately. It is sadly also true you find very little restraint on instagram, let alone something like OF.
/r/RedPillWomen22/04/21 09:50 PM
-2

I meant equality in terms of jobs, it was definitely not common for a woman to work 100 years ago, so now we have reached this equality. The sad part I see here is it makes no sense in this scenario for a man to commit to a woman when he is expected to do the chores - I believe there is simply no winning scenario from man's perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 09:46 PM
-1

I cannot disagree more. Actually when talking about LTR, the only reasonable choice a man has nowadays is a woman who earns her share AND is able to take care of her man and household. After all, this is what the feminist wanted in the first place - to be equal - but maybe it was forgotten a bit than when such equality exist, there is very few real reasons for a man to commit, so obviously the woman nowadays has to work AND be able to do the chores, or hire someone to do that for that matter, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 09:19 PM
1

I think career is not the problem here. I consider myself RP with some exceptions and I would never look bad at my gf for working. The job however cannot be above me or the taking care of the household in her list of priorities, otherwise I would not make her my LTR in the first place. And this is what I suspect TRP means when they say they hate career women, it is rather a criticism of lazy women who often cannot clean up the house even when home all day or in the other extreme they work long h…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 09:11 PM
2

It's a shared baby - commence harem. Troll rating 4/10.
/r/askTRP13/04/21 04:22 AM
3

IMHO the problem most often with all 3 scenarios is that the woman is dating way out of her league. Of course, woman can find a man for sex at any age, shape and size, but for a relationship it is a different story. What's more, after their 20's on the famous cock carousel these women are not used to compromise, let alone provide real value to the man. Hence, they are being ghosted. This is TRP 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 09:11 PM
1

I can vivdly imagine the gender studies and their authors you are talking about. Also, it would help if could specify what "claims" you mean, otherwise it is quite pointless discussion. I do not speak from some theoretical moral high ground, but from my personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 09:05 PM
1

Right, because you said so, I get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 09:07 AM
1

I'm also very curious what are the "tactics".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 09:06 PM
1

I must admit, although I furiously disagree with this statement, it is curious to see that someone really is using the "misogyny" card in discussion and as far as I can tell it's not sarcasm!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 09:04 PM
3

Dear Purpleboa12, can you descend from your high cloud down among our mere mortals and explain to me how trp contradicts happy relationship? As has been said, TRP is a tool, not a philosophy or God forbid religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 04:57 PM
1

You are already the bitch/beta in this relationship and unfortunately most likely no matter what you do it is not going to get better, because even if you try to retaliate now - ie try to lead or give her the boundaries she needs, she will most likely see it as another beta move on your end. I'd rather be wrong, but I went through something similar - she was a bit older, relatively pretty and some "abusive" boyfriendy before me as I saw it back then. I also thought I was saving her. You can gues…
/r/askTRP06/04/21 09:46 PM
1

Pump it and then dump it.
/r/askTRP05/04/21 02:02 PM
2

I recommend less watching tv, even the official sources say children rarely even have any symptoms.
/r/RedPillWomen05/04/21 09:53 AM
2

For me it was period of about 2 years from when I realized what I'm really attracted to and then analyzed what are the good parts and what really holds me back, then it was small steps over long period of time to get to the point to be satisfied in the kind of relationship I truly want instead of one which is dictated only by my desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 06:02 PM
10

I think you CAN change what you are attracted to, it just takes more effort than most people are willing to put in. It is actually very convenient excuse - I did this and that because of what I'm attracted to, not because of my poor judgement and impulsive behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 09:33 AM
3

Plot twist: become ripped and women will actually enjoy you looking at them.
/r/askTRP03/04/21 08:55 PM
1

Whip yourself 10 times and everything will be forgiven.
/r/askTRP02/04/21 09:27 PM
2

For me, already having instagram is a big no no. Maybe for a plate? But still dangerous... and if you are high value it does not matter that much what you'll say anyway.
/r/askTRP02/04/21 09:05 PM
2

You don't even have to trust me - just create a dating profile as a man at any dating site and you'll see for yourself. This is not a good comparison, in asktrp men are asking for help because they have problem on their own, maybe most often after being dumped and not understanding why. On the other hand, woman complaining her man is watching porn already put herself in a position where she is right while he is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 09:53 PM
24

Well, yes, that next 10 years will be about her, the next 10-20 really only her and her cats. The end.
/r/TheRedPill29/03/21 11:08 AM
1

Not after same guy, but more like the top to 5% on OLD. And it is more accurate than just saying "everyone has different taste" as that is not at all what is happening - that would imply the interest of women in men is somewhat equally distributed, which it is not at all. Still, they are seeking advice from strangers who do not know their partner at all. Counseling, ideally as a pair, would be asking for advice but writing about how their man is doing bad things is just complaining which accompl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:24 AM
1

So you are saying young man and a young woman have the same odds when using OLD? Come on. They should first talk with them man, or break up if it is that bad. But complaining to strangers while staying in the relationship sounds like they have no respect for the man and just using him basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 07:26 AM
1

Is this some kind of bad soap opera or I'm missing something?
/r/askTRP28/03/21 11:38 PM
0

It is not women's fault as such, but it is also their problem in the long run. Already we are loosing so much potential because men have to fight for the leftover women on OLD (who are not worth the fight anyway), let alone the divorce industry. And there is no responsibility in sight for women's choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 11:06 PM
1

Source is every single OLD. And when woman has so low respect for the man to go complain outside of the relationship it is practically over anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 11:04 PM
1

I don't know and frankly don't care. I let the women I'm with worry about my hair, but they don't seem to complain. It might be that some are avoiding me because of my bald head, but I would not want to be with someone for whom it's deciding factor anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 10:39 PM
7

I thought this is now standard at most weddings, no?
/r/askTRP25/03/21 09:50 PM
23

For me TRP is not a world view or any kind of code how to live. It is just a tool - same as a hammer or the internet, it just makes some things for me easier. That being said, what really clicked for me that many years back, before my divorce, I never understood why my ex was always behaving better to me when I was really angry and basically acted like an asshole, compared to when I tried to please her. When I played back all the situations in TRP principles, it became crystal clear what I did w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 01:51 PM
7

It would certainly make world a better place, but you forgot that planning and responsibility are tools of patriarchy.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/03/21 08:59 AM
3

"We can disagree, but you would be wrong" does not apply only to desert but actually to any and all interactions with this specimen.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/03/21 09:54 PM
1

The 1000 cocks stare is strong with this one.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/03/21 09:30 PM
1

The difference is in effort - a man having casual sex with many women is not at all the same as backwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 09:13 PM
1

Sex IS a basic need, especially in today's world so your whole response is invalid. Also, actually there is way less value in Stacy chasing men she will never be able to keep, rather than build and attraction with a man she can be happy with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 09:09 PM
13

What kind of advice is this? Does not sound very RPW to me. Not to mention the guys OP is looking for definitely exist.
/r/RedPillWomen16/03/21 06:11 AM
1

After the good discussion here I believe many women and even men feel that way, but still I think is it not a good thing, at least most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 07:35 AM
1

That is good point, but I imagine it also depends on how you slept that day and dozens other factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 10:58 PM
-2

I say it because I saw the sad ends where it usually leads, I'm glad it has worked for you as it sounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 10:56 PM
0

So it is a man who ticks all the boxes, right? That is also really common in OLD, not really a good thing though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 10:54 PM
0

So you are a man who feels this? I'm eager to hear about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 10:50 PM
1

Care to argue why you think so?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 10:47 PM
3

No, first I need to like how she looks, which is really broad spectrum though. And then we need to connect also on personal level, but there is no magic involved. And I only saw it gendered - I never heard man say "we had no chemistry so I did not fuck her".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 10:45 PM
1

*random guy
/r/askTRP12/03/21 10:24 PM
2

We have (almost) all been there.
/r/askTRP11/03/21 10:33 PM
1

Everyone has problems, however, what you imply is that men are having trouble dating because they are lacking in looks. I simply can't agree with that - even if all men look like greek gods, if there is no responsibility on women side it will be the same as now and will be getting worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 12:40 PM
1

Not yet, but we are surely getting there. Certainly the percentage of incel and also divorce raped men is increasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 09:02 AM
1

Actually there was another way an average man could get a woman, it is called marriage, though nowadays only a parody of it remains.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 06:43 PM
1

There is no calculator, it happens naturally if women get to choose men without any regulation. OLD is basically return to stone age in this regard. Actually maybe worse since it is global.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 06:40 PM
1

But still you are missing the point - no matter how hard will men try, women will find 80% of them "under average".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 08:09 AM
1

Sad but true, still nothing I would like to base my career on either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 08:24 PM
2

That is the underlying problem though - men should not be insecure and obsessing about looks, there is already enough of that from women. It is my belief that marriage was invented exactly to circumvent this, give men reasonable access to a woman and be able to focus on building things, not just "obsessing and insecure" about women. Now, I'm not saying we should force woman to accept anyone, but I think there needs to be balance and most importantly open discussion. However, it is my belief that…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 05:26 PM
1

What kind of career is that, though? Maybe in the HR department....
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 05:20 PM
2

Just to be clear, I'm not complaining about these things, and certainly there is clothing, working out and more importantly the overall impression when you talk in person. What I find sad is, if I would accept this argument, that men are reduced from providers and protectors to tools who need plastic surgery to have better chance with women. And for women it is completely different - they were judged mostly by looks also in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 01:36 PM
3

No, I'm talking about why marriage was invented and what impact on society has its total collapse like we see nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 01:04 PM
3

As I said in the other comment - if this is now a deciding factor in a dating market for a man I think something is seriously wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 01:01 PM
2

For me it is more about what a man has to offer to a woman - if it is just sharper jawline then we are screwed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 12:56 PM
0

You really think men should consider plastic surgery to look better to women? That's definitely not how this works.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 10:29 AM
-2

Lol, this selfish approach is exactly what will bring our civilization to it's knees right before our new eastern overlords. (For context, I'm from Europe)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 10:25 AM
3

I don't think you can really, IMHO this is a decision everyone has to do on their own, otherwise it just doesn't work if you do it "for somebody", especially in the RP context.
/r/RedPillWomen08/03/21 06:31 AM
1

Certainly RPW is not perfect, but they are at least trying to improve, so I say way better advice in general than any mainstream media.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 06:31 AM
11

So you are basically telling a depressed incel, that it is ok to not have sex, as chad would not be happy with the 5 girls he slept that week in the long run anyway? That is like telling a hungry person that they don't have to eat, since a lot of food will make then fat anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 03:15 PM
1

I recommend proposing to her, what could go wrong?
/r/askTRP25/02/21 10:31 PM
4

Sounds just like trouble to me, especially if they are not specifically asking for advice.
/r/askTRP25/02/21 10:28 PM
0

And also don't forget: balls not touching = not gay.
/r/askTRP25/02/21 10:24 PM
1

For me, it was never a solution even before RP. Not because some moral standpoint or their behavior, but simply the 100+ dicks they had inside, just the idea made me sick and still does. In that regard - today's tinder whore could be even worse and even more expensive in the long run, so it's not all black and white I guess.
/r/TheRedPill24/02/21 04:31 PM
1

You said it yourself - it's plutonic.
/r/askTRP17/02/21 02:38 PM
5

It is not weird, sounds like to me she is at least trying to fight her urges, which is really rare these days. Still, of course there is a high risk she will be comparing everyone who comes next to this guy. This is why in the past it was the father of the family deciding with whom the daughter will get engaged.
/r/askTRP16/02/21 06:11 PM
1

Sounds like someone who cannot control himself to me.
/r/askTRP11/02/21 08:59 PM
2

I would argue the looks factor is stronger on OLD apps, unfortunately more and more people are using them, so there is your generalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 08:16 PM
1

Getting a man who would be good for relationship is actually pretty simple. Getting one who is relationship material and also attractive for a woman is the hard part.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 10:58 AM
1

Exactly, but, woman can choose a man for relationship and for this good experience. So complaining about too many choices is like being fat, but blaming that it is because there are too many restaurants around.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 03:42 PM
1

You sound like me few years ago. For me, the best realization was that love is not something magical, as women often describe it as chemistry or what not, but rather how she feels about you, and this is something you can work on - eg. lift, dress up, work on career, etc. And, since I'm also not into causal sex, what I expect from woman in a LTR now is to support what I do and my decisions, which is another part I had to learn the hard way - to lead in the relationship. Now, there is the anger ph…
/r/askTRP27/01/21 10:45 AM
1

If only 1 in 1000 encounters is good, it begs the question how you are choosing such encounters? And again, even 1000 bad encounters can be hardly worse than 0. From your perspective, maybe, from the men with the 0 not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 10:36 AM
1

The difference is that a woman always have a choice of a sexual partner. They often choose poorly and what you described ensues, but still it's their choice. Contrary, many men simply don't have that option - hence easy access to sex IS woman's privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 05:52 AM
5

Does she have a cat? If yes, it's color is very important!
/r/askTRP22/01/21 12:23 PM
1

There are obviously also other factors at play in Japan, but the argument still stands - it affects men way more as it is way harder for them to get a spouse in any culture than for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 12:02 PM
1

Again, in end state it might be similar, but the actual numbers are indeed very different for men and women. The reason is this did not happen out of the blue - such a person most likely tried to approach women but has been turned down again and again until they did not try anymore. Also, I'm not implying this is anyone's fault, merely stating the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 09:21 AM
1

I understand you feel that way, but statistically it is no wear near being equal, this is really mainly men's problem. And its starting in the west too - incels, mgtow, etc. all due to the women dating choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 09:01 PM
1

Simple - he is like a kitchen appliance to her. As they say: alpha fux, beta bux
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 08:55 PM
1

So it is just a coincidence that vast majority of them are men, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 08:52 PM
1

The situation in Japan however is not caused by the men, but rather by the women choices, that was my entire point from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 07:49 PM
1

We are progressing even faster, yes, but I believe it is still just the momentum from before. The worry is what happens in the long term - look at japan - as advanced as you can imagine but the average man simply has no sex or spouse at all. And don't get me started on the security part - women/left led europe is not only being conquered right now but it is inviting the conquerors openly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 05:04 PM
9

Still you are missing the point - rockets (or microwaves or washing machines for that matter) are not built by people with social degrees. Also, when we did get to the moon, the society was not exactly led by the left like it is now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 06:13 AM
12

I'm sorry to repeat what my colleague above said, but you are still only proving OPs point. In short, fucking engineers would have us living on the moon at this point, instead of inventing 50 genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 09:40 PM
5

Then there is also the question of what is a good trait? Is it a hard-working man who is not committing any crimes? If yes, then the "natural pickiness" doesn't really work well, as there would be no incel movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 01:29 PM
-3

You probably meant far left movements, otherwise I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 01:28 PM
2

This is an interesting perspective, I wish it was the goal of dating apps to bring together people who have trouble finding their match, even from different countries or wherever they are. Sadly, they are actually in reality doing the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 10:24 AM
3

But you don't understand, consequences of their decisions are a tool of patriarchy!
/r/askTRP10/01/21 09:09 PM
2

Lol, you are like 50 years late. Anyway, maybe this is reason why India is sending spacecraft to the moon, while Europe is inviting hordes of uneducable men all over the place while scared to name things what they really are.
/r/askTRP10/01/21 09:05 PM
3

True, if it works for you then great, I just feel like vomiting rather than chasing hoes on instagram, lol.
/r/askTRP09/01/21 10:39 PM
15

Is it just me getting old or is the human interaction on social media really so retarded?
/r/askTRP09/01/21 10:37 PM
2

For me it was mainly time. And also it's kind of silly - you also are not angry at wind that it blows...
/r/askTRP07/01/21 06:08 AM
1

I'm only angry at myself that I did not see earlier what was happening. Don't blame others for your own decisions.
/r/askTRP07/01/21 06:06 AM
5

It's ok, you just need to ask your parents for permission.
/r/askTRP04/01/21 08:41 AM
1

I think you don't understand - as a leftist aka progressivist and feminist, she is already cheering for the next train.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 11:05 PM
1

"system regulation that isn't biased" - that is a joke of the (current) year.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 10:19 PM
-1

Care to explain why?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 10:17 PM
3

30? More like never...
/r/askTRP02/01/21 03:39 PM
1

Even married I think the abundance mentality is a must. So like you said, you have way to go, but you need to be prepared also for the eventuality that it will simply not work, mostly because no matter how you change, she might still see the old beta you were for such a long time. Either way, all the best, I have been there...
/r/MarriedRedPill02/01/21 03:36 PM
2

I get what you are saying, some of the heavyweight Berthas though.....
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 07:57 AM
5

Look at your horse maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 07:52 AM
2

Good point with the age, I know a kid maybe 17 who looks exactly like that. Doesn't stop him to have a really cute girlfriend though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 11:16 PM
-1

It is fair to say they can be faked to certain extent though, especially for a short period.
/r/askTRP29/12/20 11:07 PM
7

If I'm thankful for TRP for something, it's mainly I will never be this guy. It's just disgusting, I honestly think this is worse than if she would cheat.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/20 11:01 PM
2

I agree, I think the zeros are too rare nowadays anyway and even I believe the study mentioned it only really dropped after 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 04:35 PM
4

I will be brief - be in the top 20% fitness wise (but more like endurance/lifts than looks) and at the top in my line of work. This allows me to do the activities I enjoy the most.. However, these are more like a direction for me than rules, and I'm certainly more about the journey than the goal.
/r/askTRP20/12/20 02:32 PM
1

I meant more like Roman empire collapse scale, rather than some change in social dynamics. Not saying it will happen during our lifetimes, but we are certainly on the way there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 12:23 PM
2

Why they should change who they are attracted to? That is for everyone to decide for themselves and also evaluate if they need to in the first place. For me personally it was the urge to just not follow blindly my desires, but invest my time in things that make sense in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 11:27 AM
-1

You can change what you are attracted to, if not, you are just an animal which follows instincts. I'm not saying it's easy though...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 10:56 AM
0

I'm not about to tell people what to do, in the long run it is a problem for us all, but that is in range of decades. In the short them, I would like to people to know all the consequences of their decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 10:13 AM
-1

The problem with this is I see, like with any other modern dating approach, is - if let ultimately to women's free will to choose only men they desire - the society will eventually collapse.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 09:01 AM
2

I'd recommend proposing to her straight away, what can go wrong?
/r/askTRP17/12/20 05:24 AM
10

This is nothing new by any means, it's called being a single mom.
/r/askTRP17/12/20 05:22 AM
10

There is hardly a shortage, you just don't see them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 08:47 PM
6

"looking for a future ex" - at least she is honest
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/11/20 10:08 PM
1

Lol, as a non-US guy - is this what is going in the so called rednecks states?
/r/askTRP24/11/20 10:01 PM
7

Are you now trying to blame men even for your own dating mistakes?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 09:47 PM
2

I'd say it depends on the sport - if we talk about soccer or hockey which are ridiculously overhyped (at least in my country) then yes. For other not so high profile sports, like biking, skying or rallying it's not the case at all - there are the people who really like what they do and are good at it while often humble.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 11:26 AM
3

I'm sure he was laughing in evil way writing this.
/r/askTRP22/11/20 10:32 AM
7

You just have to learn say "no", even at work. And I mean not to a customer who pays well but rather to a co-worker or boss or even low paying customer who tries to take advantage of you. I think a man should value his time - it's the most precious asset you have. In my case it means only working more than 8 hours a day if I really feel like it makes sense, which my current position allows for.
/r/askTRP22/11/20 10:27 AM
2

Personally the main change after finding TRP is I finally know how women really operate, but I still prefer the idea of LTR with a woman who is really submissive and supports me in every way rather than wasting my time with a number of plates which break often by definition. So overall, I feel happier and less dependent on what a woman thinks which in turns makes the relationships better also for them.
/r/askTRP22/11/20 10:20 AM
1

And in many cases they are NPCs! The AI is getting smarter by the day...
/r/askTRP18/11/20 09:52 PM
44

Scary story! But kudos for the guy dodging a bullet like that, I hope he got the Porsche in the end.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/20 09:49 PM
1

It is certainly question of balance and even more so - the particular couple, but the problem I have with this statement - when a woman complains the man does not help - is that it usually means she does not respect him at all which is way worse for the relationship than messy household. So to answer your question - a man should only help when with the chores as he sees fit, unless he likes to be a doormat to the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 07:33 AM
1

True, but still the main difference remains - an average woman always has options, especially nowadays, that a average man does not have in terms of using sex for her gain. So in fact the OPs comparison is meaningless, which was my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 09:45 PM
1

I think "traditional woman" age is over. My belief is that in this day and age reasonably well off man should only consider cohabitation with a woman who is able to manage her job AND to clean up the house on her own.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 12:39 PM
1

That is like saying it sucks to live in a city with a lot of restaurants to choose from. But I understand why some people would feel that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 08:24 AM
1

But you just confirmed what I said - even the ugly women do get approached, while huge portion of men do not even get noticed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 08:23 AM
4

Maybe I should add that it was a joke... And you did not improve your initial statement with the sheep reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 11:15 PM
-1

It is not even in the same universe. Main reason being such a man is just desperate. A woman always has a choice with whom she will express her sexuality - in one way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 10:52 PM
3

I agree but you should be careful with the farm animals in this context....
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 10:49 PM
1

I would say text even less if you see potential and see her right away. If there should be any hope of working LTR, she must be eager to see you from the start.
/r/askTRP16/11/20 10:45 PM
1

I admire you, as a father of 2 boys sometimes I'm thinking I would be actually worried how to guide a daughter through all this.
/r/askTRP16/11/20 10:23 PM
1

It is interesting to see (but not rare) that even top class attorney who cannot be dumb can't choose the right man to have sex with. I would say enjoy it while it last and I truly hope you have it in you to make it last but I wouldn't bet on it. Personally it seems like kind of an uphill battle, but what do I know :)
/r/askTRP16/11/20 10:19 PM
3

This is good explanation, I feel like such an ex would be like a dangling sword threatening to cut you off if you get weak or too much beta, but I guess she could also just get over him? But personally I think it's unlikely she won't have sex with him ever again.
/r/askTRP16/11/20 10:09 PM
5

It is a matter of choice. As a man you can choose to have your life under control or be a an overweight porn addict. As a woman, you can look for a good man to be with or to whore. Both result in an appropriate quality of life more often than not and my choice is to not support the former in any way.
/r/askTRP13/11/20 03:11 AM
4

It depends what you find attractive though, a girl with IG, especially with pictures of herself there is a huge red flag for me in the first place.
/r/askTRP12/11/20 10:51 PM
1

So what is the question here? Even if you succeed with your "evil plan" you will only punish yourself. You cannot change what other people do, in fact, you can be only angry at yourself, that you did not discover these things about her sooner. But at the same time, it's not an end of the world. Take this as a life lesson, be glad you did not marry her and get some plates, you will get over it sooner.
/r/askTRP28/10/20 10:11 PM
9

What a time to be alive!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/10/20 12:22 PM
13

The deeper I'm in TRP the more I think that the original concept of marriage was really great, it's sad to see how messed up it has become.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/10/20 10:10 PM
6

This is load of BS. I'm also from Europe and the only really safe countries here are the ones with liberal gun laws. And don't get me started on the mass shootings - how come it always happens in a school or other gun-free zones? Is that a coincidence?
/r/TheRedPill22/10/20 09:48 PM
1

Better go do your homework.
/r/askTRP15/10/20 08:37 PM
2

*the top 10% of men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 11:25 AM
1

Are you sure she is the plate?
/r/askTRP16/09/20 08:55 PM
1

In general most women still look for "the man" or "captain" or whatever you want to call it and are not happy alone and it is a good thing - I believe there needs to be balance between men and women and I see the monogamous marriage as a fundamental way to achieve that. Look at old women - the happy ones I know are the grandmothers who invested in their husband and their family, not those who lived only to earn money.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 08:31 PM
10

Probably threw them down from a rock or something.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/09/20 04:03 AM
2

I hope you realize she just may be using you to live at your expense, though this is probably better than a hooker. Also, don't move to France because of her, just don't.
/r/askTRP26/08/20 03:31 PM
0

TLDR, TRP is not just about sex so...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 06:26 AM
8

I'd argue it's usually not possible to get it back. As it's not about what you do but she would have to change the perception of you, and most women will still see you as the beta loser she knew when you met her, even if you are completely different person now.
/r/TheRedPill20/08/20 06:22 AM
2

It is sad to see a friend like this, but as the others said, if you get involved, it will most likely just backfire on you.
/r/askTRP31/07/20 08:24 AM
2

I agree, still doesn't mean it was not needed 20 years ago, only the situation got even worse...
/r/askTRP23/07/20 08:38 AM
1

Same here
/r/askTRP23/07/20 08:37 AM
1

Right, she probably already has five.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/07/20 09:08 PM
6

Lol, the second paragraph is literally the description of my ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 08:56 PM
3

As has been said here, this is just silly. TRP is not some religion whose rules are not to trust women, in my eyes it just shows how the world really works and it's up to you what you'll do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 08:51 PM
1

My take on this is when you stop improving, or moving forward, you might as well die. For me personally the current goals are to be at the top of the field I'm working in, which I'm nearing at least in my country and to be able to go safely and on regular basis 100 mph sideways through a forest, which is currently really long way off. But no matter if the current goals I have will be reached sooner, later or never, I know I will always have a direction to take from there, to build on what I alre…
/r/TheRedPill06/07/20 05:55 PM
1

I think it is very different when a woman has more men compared to when a man has more women. The first one is called cuck, the other one is what trp advocates.
/r/askTRP02/07/20 08:40 PM
1

If trp is banned, it will be for posts like this, lol.
/r/askTRP02/07/20 08:34 PM
3

Run, Forest, run.
/r/askTRP02/07/20 08:32 PM
5

I like how many women claim here that they are just friends with their guys .True test of this would be if they offer to have sex with them and they would say no. From my experience, 90% of such "only friends" would say yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 08:09 PM
2

Thanks for the explanation, it sounds quite sad with the Swedish situation, do you dare to estimate what percentage of women could be like this? I think any woman using OLD is not LTR material automatically, but with these types one would be worried about things from their past and future...
/r/TheRedPill24/06/20 01:00 PM
4

At no point. Which is IMHO the case not only with LTR but with anyone angry - you are not going to come out on top from such a situation by trying to argue with them.
/r/askTRP24/06/20 12:54 PM
58

Lol this sounds like a secret weapon for tinder.
/r/TheRedPill24/06/20 08:30 AM
2

The mistakes I then could have not learn from.
/r/askTRP15/06/20 12:11 PM
1

Yes and I'm already doing my best, but I think with children TRP really comes into play only when they hit puberty and start looking at the other gender. On another note, I have always thought having children is not only fun, if you are with the right person, but there are actually not many others meaningful life goals in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 04:04 PM
6

Are you 12? If so kudos for quite sensible post and don't worry, you'll grow out of it. And if you are older, there is no hope for you anyway.
/r/askTRP10/06/20 07:20 PM
23

This is golden explanation, I wish someone had told me exactly this when I was 20.
/r/askTRP02/06/20 07:45 AM
2

So you see these changes as a progress? Well, not me, I see them as a threat to the very nature our society is built on - which is a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 04:20 AM
5

No, I'm afraid that is not the case at all
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 09:02 PM
2

Please tell me you are troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 08:50 PM
4

Well, at least for you personally there isn't, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 08:49 PM
5

Aren't we spiralling down here faster and faster, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 08:48 PM
3

As someone who completely quit porn, I would certainly not describe the other party as "happy".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 08:44 PM
1

Something like that, yes, I believe it is all connected. In terms of that how attractive man is to a woman is based on how "high value" she perceives him which usually cannot be faked by a man, for example, an incel who tries to be seen as high value but in fact is not. But doctor is not a good example, there are probably very few doctor incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 03:37 PM
1

I'm not a woman so I will reply here - what if the difference between a job and a career is the same what makes the "job" attractive to a woman? Not the actual job itself, but rather how the man makes her feel and what he stands for.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 02:53 PM
1

Ah, the Somalia argument, well, in the ideal conditions you would be free to leave to live elsewhere, but I believe their problems are pretty much elsewhere than lack of government. And the 1984 is good example, except it is an ideal - in reality it leads to mass murders and hunger which is what I was referring to in the beginning. So real example of extreme left is North Korea.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 05:25 AM
1

From my perspective, right taken to the extreme is anarchocapitalism - basically everyone is responsible for themselves, but that is not going to happen probably in a few generations either way. On a more realistic scale I like how it works in Switzerland for example - the government really doesn't not have as much power over the entire country and the taxes are low, so the government does not as much attract people who want to just take from the government money and there is more money left in …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 08:04 PM
1

My take on what is left is really more simple. As I'm from Europe, around the time when US was figuring out the feminism and flying to the moon, people in my country were dying or at best in jail because they did not have the state approved world view or they tried to leave the country. This is what I call left, taken to the extreme of course, and it is also the reason why we are more sensitive to the freedom of speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 05:04 AM
8

Exactly! What is sad it is in the long term always the left ideologies, supposedly knowing better what is and isn't good than the average human, which lead to the really bad things in history and in the world today.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 02:13 PM
1

I had, but I'm not the one complaining how dare someone want to have sex with me (or on my case, rather ask for commitment).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 05:38 AM
2

It may not affect her strategy, but it does affect what she can offer and how stable long-term relationship she is able to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 05:36 AM
2

That is your problem however, as your decisions in the past led to this situation. As is the case with the women "being pressured" to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 05:34 AM
4

The problem is, after woman had 30 sexual partners and hundreds of men interested in her, no regular person can satisfy her in this genuine way. Men are also affected by this but I believe to much lesser extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 09:21 PM
2

Okay, but then you are the exception to the rule, unfortunately...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 09:18 PM
2

This is a weird question, inverted it would be "Are men today pressured into marriage?". And the answer is the same for both - if they are they already did a lot bad decisions in the past, so they cannot really blame it on the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 09:17 PM
2

So just to be clear, there is no man you have had sex with sooner than on a third date?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 09:10 PM
2

I think the lobsters are in the first few chapters, actually did no make it to the number 12 yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 09:39 PM
2

I wonder what number am I in the light of this article, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 08:17 PM
2

Prepare your anus!
/r/askTRP01/05/20 08:46 PM
2

The agreeable nature is certainly not all bad, in the end, the people who actually built the civilization from the bottom up have to be like this to be able to cooperate effectively. So from work perspective, it's good trait, especially if you learn to say no in certain cases. From dating perspective however.... In the past, it was the slut shaming and the concept of marriage itself to ensure the agreeable people get a woman too, which is no longer the case, so we are kind of on our own - hence …
/r/askTRP30/04/20 01:33 PM
10

I imagine something like going full retard.
/r/askTRP30/04/20 08:29 AM
1

By accepting the notion that you always be bluepilled no matter what, you stop trying before you even started. It is true there are some dispositions, like you said, some people don't need TRP at all, but for others, like me and I'm guessing also you it's a long process, as we are naturally agreeable and it was only reinforced during the teen phase. So first you have to accept it may take literally years to dig yourself from that hole, but the results are certainly worth it.
/r/askTRP30/04/20 08:21 AM
2

The actual numbers are questionable but their numbers are certainly increasing. From my perspective, it's not as much about age but rather the N-count. I briefly dated 2 of these before discovering the whole TRP and only after I did, I realized what was so unsettling about them - they, the women on WAATGM and most women on OLD, all have the empty 1000 cocks stare and have long lost the ability to pair bond and be a good mate to a man in a LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 08:28 PM
2

Fuck!
/r/askTRP28/04/20 09:10 PM
1

True, especially nowadays we need to able talk about things. Even the censorship here is quite sad, like all the leftists - they all think they are doing the right thing...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 09:12 PM
4

Nice analysis, I agree to some extent, but are you sure you are not confusing TRP with the PUA movement? In my view, PUA would be as you described, to get woman with minimal effort, while trp for me personally is about about men's self improvement and explaining why things happen. TRP's main goal in my eyes is not to trick the women to like you, but to understand why they don't like you and what you can do about it. And it's no easy or shortterm task.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 08:55 AM
2

So you say they are rejecting the 30% of men (I don't know where the number comes from, but it sounds plausible) because of personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 03:55 AM
88

You mean an EBH - Emergency Boyfriend Hologram, that probably will be a thing in the upcoming StarTrek franchise, from what I can see where it is headed.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/04/20 12:58 PM
7

True, I would say what he describes can only last if she is not on social media.
/r/askTRP23/04/20 07:48 AM
6

Again, it might be as well the quality of men you and your friend chose, nothing you could extrapolate on. Compare that to the volume of likes these posts get.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 08:22 PM
3

You really shouldn't project what your ex is doing to all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 07:36 PM
6

So what exactly is your question? You undoubtedly had your share of shit, but life is not fair. Other people will destroy you only if you let them.
/r/askTRP25/03/20 08:36 PM
1

The governmen did actually cause the problem at least in the case of my country - by publicly stating the state will order it and that the price is capped the existing supply chain collapsed. And it is actually the capped prices makes them unavailable only for the poor, because the more capable peole will find a way. Which is a sad outcome of all the socialist constructs, it is the poor people who they say they want to protect who are impacted the worst. On the contrary, by allowing the prices t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 01:19 PM
2

Well, in my country, the government caused unavailability of respirators by capping their price, so what I would expect them to do is to offer the facts and let people decide what to do. But it is interesting how common is for certain type of people to demand the government takes responsibility for their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 09:19 PM
4

Maybe not assaulted as such, but how can anyone be part of equal society if they cannot provide for themselves in the tough times?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 09:05 PM
18

I lost it at the Hellmann's quality control team, lmao.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/03/20 04:17 PM
16

At least she already has the cats...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/03/20 04:10 PM
3

This. I wish I had discovered trp at 21, so many things would be easier. OP should be thankful.
/r/askTRP08/03/20 01:51 PM
6

The question is, how can a woman respect a man who focuses on her instead of his mission? In the short term it may make her feel good, but most likely it will end by her cheating, especially if she is the today's common high n count hoe. Now, nobody is perfect, I relapse to my former bdp self more often then I would like to, but overall this sounds like he is just coming back to it voluntarily.
/r/askTRP08/03/20 11:25 AM
1

What, is this some kind of satire?
/r/askTRP06/03/20 08:51 PM
1

Personally I think I'm not entitled to anything, let alone sex. If there is anything I tend to be angry about, in terms of sex, it's the time I wasted in the past going for the blue pill dream of getting a girl to like me just by waiting and being there for her. I'm not sure if I'm RP though, probably not quite. It does not help I hate labeling people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 02:14 PM
1

This would be plausible only if she did this with all other partners and the total number before you would be like 2 max, which as you mentioned is not the case if this hoe, next.
/r/askTRP05/03/20 08:01 AM
1

I would certainly not care about such a bar hoe, actually at all, my intent was for OP to avoid the feeling that some miracle has happened and this nice girl just woke up and is interested in him, when it is actually most likely the opposite.
/r/askTRP04/03/20 02:05 PM
10

The difference is in the effort it takes, Mr. Anderson.
/r/askTRP03/03/20 05:55 PM
-1

So OP is basically a communist, is that what this is all about?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 05:53 PM
4

If you don't mind the 20 guys she fucked in between, try to ask her out for a date and you'll see, just keep the texting/calling to logistic only.
/r/askTRP03/03/20 10:00 AM
8

They are all correct though. This is not a place to babysit you, rather to learn how the world works and you have apparently long way to go.
/r/askTRP02/03/20 05:44 PM
1

In my experience, from woman's perspective it's often just a friendship, in the same way women are able to completelt ignore certain percentage of men who they find unattractive. From men's perspective however, there are also usually other motives, no matter how subtle it might be. Now, if he would act on them, that is a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 01:58 PM
1

This is a great list, I would add - not using Instagram, let alone the specifically dating apps.
/r/askTRP01/03/20 11:59 AM
2

Try to setup another date and you'll see if she is really interested. Bad breath just shouts low discipline though, you really should fix that.
/r/askTRP01/03/20 07:03 AM
4

Just what comes to my mind as repulsive when I see it on a woman: full arm tattoos or visible tattoos in general, extremely short hair by choice, dressing up like whore all the time - eg. when shopping or at work
/r/askTRP25/02/20 08:53 PM
2

Yeah, fortunately this one is curable, at least in men.
/r/askTRP22/02/20 04:37 AM
3

I think a woman nowadays should be able to have a kid and support herself at least partially. In the end, it is what feminism was really about from the beginning, wasn't it? To not be dependent on men. And with the welfare state and "equal" opportunities we are certainly there. Also, I would not consider having a child a sacrifice. Anyone who think that way probably should not have one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 03:35 AM
11

There we go, so this is not a therapist but basically a teacher, what can you expect.
/r/askTRP18/02/20 06:45 PM
4

Monogamy is certainly not a biological/natural for humans, it was invented by someone with great insight long time ago and actually it is my belief it allowed the rise of the early civilizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 09:19 AM
2

That's not how it works
/r/askTRP16/02/20 05:06 PM
7

TLDR: no I think if you go out just to get a lay, your starting position is quite cringy to begin with and they can sense that. Now, if you just go out to have some fun and talk to people, it could be different story.
/r/askTRP16/02/20 02:04 PM
24

You probably did nothing wrong, It was just your turn with her and apparently it is over.
/r/askTRP14/02/20 08:50 PM
5

Poor Jesus, apart from fixing her sink, now he also needs to pay her bills???
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/02/20 08:02 PM
6

I will take the regular, thanks.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/02/20 07:59 PM
2

Haha, so true, I don't follow the UK royals much but this whole Megan thing is too funny.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/02/20 02:36 PM
11

Actually I think almost all the female posts there are like this. Something is just not right compared to her previous experience and she cannot figure out why, lol.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/02/20 02:32 PM
-6

"if I'm a killer, I hope your hovercraft is full of eels"
/r/askTRP12/02/20 10:05 PM
2

It seems you are overthinking it. The girl is not special at all, either she wants to see you again or not, who cares? If you do, then you are already the weak one. On a side note - tinder & instagram is a hard no no for me personally for anything more serious.
/r/askTRP12/02/20 09:49 PM
2

Exactly my thoughts! And not the good kind of fairy...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/02/20 09:58 PM
1

Actually, not even close, lol.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/02/20 09:56 PM
1

I think you nailed the problem, although probably our opinions will vary. In my opinion the problem here is that people cannot have everything they want, so in the end, it's a question of what world you want to live in - In a world where women are pursuing only the top 2% men and where no one talks (or worse is not allowed to talk) about the obvious - that most of them will fail to secure such a man in the long run? Or in a world where everyone is free to choose their own path based on facts wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 12:43 PM
3

You mean pick 20-30 other guys and then get a cat and wait for the prince to come?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 05:07 AM
4

This is a load of nonsense, but to be fair - what you suggest she should do instead of "loosing her youth" with this man she choose?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 09:03 PM
6

I'd say it's subjective, some people look at face first, some at the body... Also the "matching" is rather statistical, for two real people there are many things (hopefully) then just looks which come into play.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 10:21 PM
2

Complete package, only her Amway sales position is missing :D
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/02/20 03:46 PM
3

This happened to me long time ago as well, but in retrospect I dodged a bullet by her leaving. She probably just found someone who makes her tingle and this is more likely the more men she had. For the issue itself - don't try to be anything any woman tells you you should be, you need to find your own way, your mission and stay on that. The whole Dom/sub thing can also mean variety of things, especially when the 'sub' women starts demanding things, but even when it makes sense you might not be i…
/r/askTRP07/02/20 03:57 PM
8

In my opinion, the "outrage" you call it is not because of the act itself (well, at least for some people), but rather because of the consequences of a woman having sex with someone she cannot realistically keep for relationship (and doing this over and over), which are not so much talked about publicly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 11:42 AM
1

No, it isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 08:56 PM
2

I recommend insisting on your seating position on every such party. Also, how up to date you are on your string theory?
/r/askTRP03/02/20 08:43 PM
2

It's on the right side when you open trp on a computer.
/r/askTRP03/02/20 08:21 AM
0

By no means I wanted to suggest some rush decisions. What I said comes from the fact that I wasted almost 10 years of my life by not being honest about what I really want. And while I appreciate your intention to honour the vows, from the male perspective, they become kind of less valid when the men's responsibility part is enforced no matter what the woman does. Maybe the the private marriage could be an option, I wish you both well.
/r/RedPillWomen02/02/20 05:07 PM
-13

First, a disclaimer - I'm a man. From my perspective, it seems the issue is not about marriage itself but rather that you don't trust your boyfriend enough that he would provide for you and your children without the state whip above his head in the form of a marriage. So, my advice would be to say to him openly how you feel about this, like you did in this thread, and either start trusting him to be the man you hope for or let him find someone else who will trust in him (or is not looking for su…
/r/RedPillWomen02/02/20 03:53 PM
7

Sometimes they are so far gone it makes me sad.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/02/20 03:41 PM
2

I so wish we could go back to how the world worked in the 50s (in the US). It was not perfect, but it led to people on the moon eventually. Now we are just funding immigrants (especially in Europe) and people who cannot take care about themselves instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 04:20 AM
2

I was pointing to the reasons for changing the opinion though, which I think are important here. Also, my lobsterity is not your concern.
/r/askTRP30/01/20 02:25 PM
6

I think it is not alpha to change your opinion because of what one little girl thinks, especially if you are scared that she'll like you less as a result. Now if you yourself think that you overdid it, then apology is probably in order.
/r/askTRP30/01/20 08:50 AM
0

Wait, mysoginy, is that the thing where SJWs get offended by (mostly) men stating objective facts?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 08:46 AM
1

What about proposing to her? That will surely make her not to do this again, especially since you ASKED her to cut that guy off. Have you read the sidebar at all?
/r/askTRP30/01/20 08:42 AM
3

I believe that if they purposefully ignore you it's still not the bottom level, it could be for example they find you relatively reasonable but don't want to be involved with someone with tattoos (or someone who has beard or brown eyes or whatever their criterion is). The true bottom level is that they see you but instantly forget you due to your low perceived social value (in their eyes).
/r/askTRP27/01/20 09:10 AM
3

For me, martial arts is definitely part of it. I suck at it terribly but I feel like I just need to keep going. And secondly, going out of my comfort zone - do things I'm scared of instead of avoiding them, which I did a lot in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 08:47 AM
2

If she really is a virgin then you might be onto something, but I wouldn't count on it.
/r/askTRP23/01/20 08:41 AM
2

For me the answer to this is two fold - I think you just carry on with what you are doing and if you own your shit and focusing on your mission, she'll most likely stay anyway. Less likely when you start apologizing and pedestalizing her. And for the cheating part, in my opinion if you want stable LTR and continue seeing other women you need to be upfront about it from the start. It is not easy, that is for sure, but it can be done.
/r/askTRP22/01/20 05:57 AM
1

I think you still lack perspective, do you think your friends do not have sex because they told you so? Do you realize how easy it is for a woman to get someone for casual sex nowadays?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 04:54 AM
3

The social thing is a skill like any other. Sure, to some it comes naturally, others needs to aquire it. The key is practice, you simply need to fail many more times before you get better at it.
/r/askTRP18/01/20 10:04 PM
3

If she says that on regular basis whatever you think you have is already over. So the best response is to pack up your things and leave.
/r/askTRP18/01/20 09:56 PM
18

The problem is, over time you'll get even more interested in her while she will get bored with your "nice guy" personality. Although she knows you would be good for her, she has already shown by being with the ex that she cannot control herself in this regard. So enjoy your turn while it lasts, but she sounds like a big no no for a LTR And also, go see other girls, seeing her 4 times a month is not a relationship, she is probably fucking someone else anyway as well.
/r/askTRP18/01/20 03:58 PM
1

This is good point, they are probably only interested in OP due to the possibility of getting to US, but as we know, there are no unicorns.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 06:04 AM
3

It's over.
/r/askTRP16/01/20 08:52 PM
29

Lol, he even needs to cook?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/01/20 08:59 PM
4

What is your question then? Why she does not leave? Remember that women are attracted exactly to the kind of shit you are doing, especially at your age.
/r/askTRP13/01/20 08:24 PM
4

I'll drop this here, since I'm a man - being involved with the BDSM thing for a bit, I always found the submissive men and dominant women rather broken, TRP only confirmed this feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 08:18 PM
23

You forgot the purple hair.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/01/20 01:06 PM
24

Do you excercise? It seems like you might have enough time to do so, it might help to bring out the happy hormones, and also get you into shape.
/r/RedPillWomen09/01/20 08:19 AM
5

Is this a song?
/r/askTRP08/01/20 10:01 PM
0

Do you care to elaborate why you think it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 01:37 PM
0

I'm afraid it's you who does not understand, men are also affected, sure, but in general probably less so (debatable). However, the definition of alpha in my opinion is that he has a choice, not that he needs to actually fuck 100s of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 01:36 PM
3

The argument is having 10's of men destroys womans ability to pair bond, while it does not affect men to such extent. Also, for men it is way harder to have many different women than it is for woman to find someone for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 02:34 AM
1

I agree with you, though I think the answer is that TRP is amoral. From my perspective, it means it is a tool for men, to basically help explaining how the dating really works (among other things), not a place to be judged. So, while I personally might not want to be in the shoes of some guys here fucking hoes in large volumes, I will take what is interesting for me from their posts to build my own toolset to do what I think makes sense, but I'm far from telling them what to do if they are not a…
/r/askTRP05/01/20 11:42 PM
30

The cleavage tattoo strikes again.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/01/20 11:29 PM
1

In my experience, with the today's common hoe, no. Probably with some women I can imagine it would be possible, but they would not give you hard time in the first place.
/r/askTRP03/01/20 09:45 PM
2

I think the problem is when you return to "normal" she will respond with another useless argument after a while as she already sees you as a weak given your history together. Like the others said, ending it is probably the best solution.
/r/askTRP03/01/20 01:43 PM
1

What exactly do you mean by "guy code"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 05:52 AM
1

Oh my, even lobe gears! This is better porn than that big boob subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 09:26 PM
5

Thanks, actually I did not even want to look up the images and for my own sanity I won't a subscribe to this one, but what makes me wonder is how this is allowed here while trp is quarantined.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/12/19 09:41 PM
4

Sweet baby Jesus, I had no idea there are subreddits like this.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/12/19 08:04 PM
1

So does she actually have the cloak of invisibility?
/r/askTRP29/12/19 09:46 PM
3

Seems like you are new here? This is not uncommon at all, especially nowadays. In the old ages, the girls would be at least discouraged to get involved with such a guy but now it is even encouraged by their alpha widowed mothers, so I'm sure we will see even more these people having success with women. Read the sidebar and enjoy the decline of that is your thing.
/r/askTRP29/12/19 09:42 PM
6

Those tits though, still not worth the squeeze, given I agree with everything already said here, but it does not hurt to look.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/12/19 09:17 PM
3

This is not a kind of discussion I would be part of at work, period. There is no possible gain by doing so, you can only lose. I think this should be enough for you to stay quiet.
/r/askTRP20/12/19 05:46 PM
12

For me part of the solution is a LTR with a woman who never has a headache. Kind of risky because of AWALT but so far it works really great. The second part is that over time I got fed up with watching another men's cocks in porn, especially after I learned how much it can affect people (interest in being cucked, not being able to get hard, etc) and quit porn and almost left dating market at one point. It was not a single day decision though, but more of a process with setbacks. Overall I think …
/r/askTRP18/12/19 08:42 AM
2

Quit porn & stop following insta hoes and the like on social media
/r/askTRP16/12/19 09:44 PM
1

You can see even in the comments that the line where cheating begins is different for everyone, it can even change over time: for me, for a long time it was not cheating until penis haven't entered a vagina, now it is more about the time she spends with me compared to other things she invests her time in.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 09:36 PM
1

I think sometimes the line is quite blurry for them. I personally know two lesbian couples where one of the pair simply looks like a man.
/r/askTRP16/12/19 09:31 PM
2

Do you really want to know though?
/r/askTRP16/12/19 09:29 PM
1

Interesting, I agree but for different reasons - certainly with the informative part, but shouldn't it be the responsibility of the family to not let the daughter in the environment where she can actually be raped, especially at young age? And also the outcome - I think the worst that can happen to a woman nowadays in terms of dating is to have sex with 200 men and then wonder why she cannot find the right guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 07:47 PM
8

There you go, you answered your own question.
/r/askTRP14/12/19 07:07 PM
1

This is good point, I guess I might not be through the anger phase yet after all.
/r/askTRP11/12/19 10:04 AM
1

I'm very much aware of AWALT, and this makes sense. At the same time, I would not want a baby with such a woman which might be part of the reason of my disgust.
/r/askTRP11/12/19 09:57 AM
3

This might be part of it, I turned down one girl shortly after we started making out, because the 1000 cock stare did not go away as I hoped it would.
/r/askTRP10/12/19 05:26 PM
0

This is good perspective, I always try to view the dating from this evolutionary perspective. So from this point of view, it makes sense to fuck as many women as possible regardless of the consequences, but then I feel like I would be only returning to the primal nature without control which we criticize here in women. But I do agree with the perk part.
/r/askTRP10/12/19 05:23 PM
1

Amen to that.
/r/askTRP10/12/19 03:10 PM
2

This is valid approach, I however like to fuck a woman only if she also bring an overall value and can follow where I lead, which also means I'm not after the hottest ones.
/r/askTRP10/12/19 01:54 PM
1

I agree with the LTR part, but my question was about dealing with the plates fucking other men or whatever we call it and how it demotes their value for me.
/r/askTRP10/12/19 01:51 PM
0

I partly agree, but on the other hand it is a different story when a man has more women
/r/askTRP10/12/19 01:48 PM
2

I'm exaggerating, but not as much as I would like. It is true though that this experience comes mainly from girls from the dating apps which is one of the reasons I left them almost completely.
/r/askTRP10/12/19 12:20 PM
2

Does this work for the tinder thots etc though? I don't think so even for the top 2% men let alone for me.
/r/askTRP10/12/19 12:18 PM
12

The problem is I don't want to, it's like I see her as 2 instead of the 6-7 when she would be exclusive.
/r/askTRP10/12/19 12:17 PM
1

I'm not sure if I understand the whole argument, although I'd say I mostly agree. Though the Gillette thing made me to give up their products after using them basically since I started shaving, and it did not even air in my country AFAIK.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 10:27 AM
10

Right, nowadays, especially on tinder etc. It's more like 98/2 rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 05:40 AM
2

*thot
/r/askTRP08/12/19 09:36 PM
4

I agree, in the past I never went to these events, but that obviously did not improve my social akwardness. Recently I did a few and I think it is a good way to connect with my colleagues, get better in these social situations and improve my position in the team the tiny non technical bit that sometimes also counts.
/r/askTRP08/12/19 01:03 PM
2

Try to ask your boyfriend.
/r/askTRP08/12/19 12:57 PM
1

That is sad, but true and not far from what I said - indeed are women increasingly interested only in the top 20% men. However, as much as I'm for everyone to have a free choice in whatever they do, I think we are not talking enough about downsides. And also, this won't be solved by men's self betterment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 06:09 AM
1

Isn't it time to start your own company then?
/r/RedPillWorkplace03/12/19 08:40 PM
2

I see we like the same song.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 08:25 PM
66

I don't agree, I think you are confusing cause and effect. Men are getting less and less interested in women, yes, but that is simply because they cannot get any, as someone else said here few posts back - look at the situation in Japan, many men in their twenties have basically left the dating market because they could not compete with the top 20%, and the west is following the same pattern.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 08:22 PM
2

Yes? The plumbing not done yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 09:32 PM
4

Most likely he is talking about Call of Duty
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 09:18 PM
2

Well some of them may be interested in a relationship, but certainly not with the average woman as they can have their pick. So in turn this disparity between what average women want and what men are available to them for relationship creates the things like incels and women asking where all the good men have gone, where obviously neither of these are happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 09:23 AM
2

Why would you call that article stupid then? It was pretty spot on, if anything, now the situation is even worse. And it's not just tinder but all online dating platforms, even few insignificant local ones in my country show the same signs - waste of time for average guy. Also, my impression is that if you are in Europe, especially the Eastern one you might still meet women IRL who are not using the dating apps or Instagram, but in the US basically all of them are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 08:09 AM
2

TLDR, though I at least started. I get your point however, actually, I believe marriage itself was introduced at some point in the past by some clever ruler/guru to avoid this kind of competition which is natural for humans but not beneficial for organized society, which caused men to stop fighting for women and rather contribute to society. At the same time, I think we are getting back to the old, natural way and it is not a good development.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 09:23 PM
1

It's not just the OK cupid article, I'm assuming you are woman - have you seen how a man's tinder or any other dating experience looks like? And I mean for the ordinary Joe, not the top 20, or nowadays more like 2%
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 09:10 PM
3

I think it's not that men wouldn't be interested in a relationship, but rather more that these women are still looking only for relationship with the top 20% men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 09:02 PM
48

Wtf is this sub now some soap opera? If yes, at least I demand also next episode.
/r/TheRedPill26/11/19 08:52 PM
3

Congratulations, you just dodged a bullet there, don't shit where you eat. Also, you already know what to do - cut contact with her (and pray she does not #metoo you for that).
/r/askTRP26/11/19 05:46 AM
-2

Just to set the record straight, nacism in itself is a leftist ideology, which was just marked as right by other leftists. It has even has the "socialism" in its name. Otherwise I completely agree, but what you can expect when owners of Twitter, Facebook or even Reddit for that matter are left leaning as well - they will not allow voices which they don't agree with to be heard.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/19 12:59 PM
2

So this is basically what you get if you marry an average American woman these days, right? I'd like to think we are not so fucked up in Europe yet, but we are certainly getting there.
/r/askTRP20/11/19 12:52 PM
1

I like the idea of Tinder compared to basically a black hole, pretty much accurate, however I think this is a wrong sub to ask your question.
/r/RedPillWomen19/11/19 10:31 AM
5

Well, in such scenario I would just next them, but if you insist on the call and assuming she picks up, which I think these mostly won't, only setup an actual date and end the call.
/r/askTRP15/11/19 04:32 PM
9

You have to realize they have literally hundreds guys interested in them, they simply don't care or probably even remember you at this point.
/r/askTRP15/11/19 04:20 PM
3

You don't need any tools to tie her, as you are one yourself enough.
/r/askTRP07/11/19 03:03 PM
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