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I think it would be safe to say that the Bible, specifically the Old Testament, contains more archaic views of gender than it does modern ones. Yes, religion can be positive, but only the more progressive ones.
/r/MensRights01/07/12 04:52 AM
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Biblical Principles of Effective Communication That may have been where the problem happened. Biblical Right... there.
/r/MensRights01/07/12 03:48 AM
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I don't know how you guys do it every day, it wears me out. Sex changes are expensive, and death is boring. We keep on because we can do no better. :)
/r/MensRights13/06/12 04:23 AM
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EDIT: Downvoters care to explain how you disagree with me, or are you just petulant children who want to be angry for no reason? I don't necessarily disagree with the concept. You need to understand that every science has a particular prevailing outlook, or mode of thought, that shapes it. The best case I can think of is the difference between classical and quantum physics - the highly exact and deterministic mathematicians like Newton, Gauss, and Maxwell, and then the highly observer-based and …
/r/MensRights29/05/12 03:52 PM
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The question I have is, how do the jobs and hours compare of those women and men? If the men are doing more skilled jobs then it's just a sample-set accident they're paid more - there just happen to be men in those jobs and it has nothing to do with sexism. This is true when people talk about it on the large scale too, because the most dangerous and high paying jobs are almost entirely taken by men (admittedly for cultural reasons) as well as a large number of advanced engineering and scientific…
/r/MensRights27/05/12 06:22 PM
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Perhaps they might be less likely, but like I said, one guy with a gun is worth several who don't have one.
/r/MensRights25/05/12 10:48 PM
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Yes, exactly. If you take all the women in the world, the one and only thing they all have in common is being women. And if they do all have something else in common, it only matters if they don't have it in common with all the men in the world. When you have a "large enough" set (which is a statistical definition) then the confounds (usually but not always) drop out.
/r/MensRights25/05/12 05:50 PM
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In science, we call those details "confounds." But theoretically, in a very large group, confounds end up being nearly zero. Your argument is good - except you need to identify at least one thing all those staffers have in common besides being women.
/r/MensRights25/05/12 05:22 PM
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I strongly disagree with the bent on this article. The insane rednecks of the Republican party aren't any better than the weak and hypocritical Democrats. They're all idiots, and all of them are bad for us.
/r/MensRights25/05/12 05:20 PM
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I live in a big city. I live in one of the worse neighborhoods of good ol' Chicago, Illinois, USA, so I know exactly how you feel. The reality is that your gender means nothing to people with guns - only how many people there are. If you're walking alone, confidence like that makes you an idiot even if you're a 6'7" professional football player. It's a really bad stereotype.
/r/MensRights25/05/12 05:18 PM
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But are they blaming YOU specifically for this? Are they saying that YOU actively oppress women and that YOU vastly benefit from this? Yes. And if you don't see it, you've been drinking the Kool-Aid. The fact is that if they aren't blaming us, then why do they need to bring it up at all? Why don't they focus on current issues, provide examples and legitimate statistics, and discuss them with openness and an understanding that they might be wrong? And they don't, they really don't. I agree in pri…
/r/MensRights23/05/12 04:38 PM
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Don't buy into this pretend battle of the sexes. battle of the sexes. Why did I even read the article? Such a waste of my time. It's this dualistic bullshit. It's your cause or my cause. I mean, in the same damn paragraph they complain about the most trivial bullshit while deriding men for complaining about unemployment and child custody. Clearly the difference in the suicide rate is less important than a Grazia article (2 to 1 odds it was written by a woman). This is the ultimate case of "I don…
/r/MensRights21/05/12 02:52 PM
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No one complained. I complained to myself having read it. I speak before I think sometimes.
/r/MensRights18/05/12 04:56 AM
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“It’s hard to put a leash on a dog once you’ve put a crown on his head.” EDIT: I should clarify. Women aren't dogs and don't need to be leashed. I just wanted to reference Game of Thrones. But once you've surrendered control, you can't take it back.
/r/MensRights18/05/12 01:14 AM
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SUE THEM. For the love of God, SUE THEM. Make some money, and fight the goddamn sexism.
/r/MensRights17/05/12 06:50 PM
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This. Not even because of domestic violence or abuse, but just because it would be nice to know if someone is batshit insane before you marry them. I wasn't even insulted when I saw the post, I was like, hey, yeah, this idea is great! Everyone should get psych evals before they get married, and have to share them with their significant other.
/r/MensRights17/05/12 06:46 PM
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Men have always peed standing up. And the war is a very good point.
/r/MensRights19/04/12 03:34 AM
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A bit extreme in his rhetoric, but I certainly agree with his point. Romanticism is bullshit and if you're going to engage in serious interpersonal relationships, do it out of self-interest.
/r/MensRights18/04/12 06:28 PM
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No, but correlation is still important. Find another specific reason the suicide rates spiked for men and not for women.
/r/MensRights18/04/12 06:26 PM
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Black Hawk Down is one of the few examples of a war movie that's still a good movie, so in that case maybe I'd change my mind. That's your bias then. I don't think violence or people dedicated to it are possible of greatness, but that is only my own philosophical/political position.
/r/MensRights16/04/12 04:20 AM
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I'm agreeing with you, haha.
/r/MensRights16/04/12 04:18 AM
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For some reason I think all war movies should automatically fail. They perpetrate this idea of the only really great men being soldiers and the like, and they glorify violence in general.
/r/MensRights16/04/12 02:25 AM
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The few inbreds and underageb&s that lurk here never want to give an inch, and the people who are overly civil and reasonable agree with OP - that's my guess at least.
/r/MensRights15/04/12 06:45 PM
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I never liked the idea that power necessarily corrupts, and I think Frank Herbert said it better. "Absolute power does not corrupt absolutely, absolute power attracts the corruptible." There are good and bad and better and worse people regardless of any transient defining factor of each person. We have to fight the radical feminists, and the radical masculinists, and the racists, and those that would take away our religious freedom, etc. But this is the one place where we can challenge the femin…
/r/MensRights15/04/12 05:41 PM
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You are correct. I'll edit, I absolutely agree with this.
/r/MensRights15/04/12 05:09 AM
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In case you forgot, men used to own women like property. Depending on where your ancestors are from, and who they were, in a very literal way. You can see power and rights have shifted since then - which in certain aspects has been very desirable and in others, the ones we discuss here, has been problematic. For example, while the education for women and increasing workplace equality is definitely good, women surreptitiously using our sperm to extort money from us without recourse is definitely …
/r/MensRights15/04/12 03:20 AM
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I agree with all of this. The overextension of this is generally the context you'll see in MR discussions, where any disagreement about it causes a virulent outburst. A 'rape culture' is one that trivializes or celebrates rape. Unfortunately, some people think rape is Voldemort and there should be no trivial contexts in which rape is discussed, which in a world with South Park simply isn't the case. While its sociological/anthropological context is totally separate, and described well above, the…
/r/MensRights14/04/12 10:36 PM
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I can't think of a case in the last 40 years where there wasn't a better alternate solution.
/r/MensRights13/04/12 10:44 PM
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Just like everywhere else, there are smart people and stupid people. You discuss with one and insult the others. In all those cases, the invaders suffered horribly despite their greater military power, funny enough. Economics and politics are much stronger than weapons in this day and age.
/r/MensRights13/04/12 10:44 PM
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The brunt of his reasoning was that enemies who are highly sexist, like many of the people who don't like us, would have their morale improved and be given an additional weapon by large numbers of female enemies.
/r/MensRights13/04/12 08:54 PM
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I think you miss the point that avoiding military engagement would be better in the first place.
/r/MensRights13/04/12 08:52 PM
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This is much like any other case of people not using science - stupid. The psychological definition of rape includes a very obvious and overt lack of consent. If she didn't say no, it's her own damn fault. There was clearly no emotional abuse, so she was capable of giving consent, and she did. The shaming is fucking awful.
/r/MensRights13/04/12 06:17 PM
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There was somebody who gave a good comment on the original thread, he gave like 6 reasons that were both reasonable and awful and acknowledged that. But how about we work to eliminate any draft list at all, instead of making it fair? War is bad.
/r/MensRights13/04/12 06:14 PM
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That's really clever. I'm going to use that later...
/r/MensRights13/04/12 06:09 PM
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More like, in what universe?
/r/MensRights13/04/12 01:21 PM
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One second. Every single character on The Office is stupid, impotent, and problematic. That's the point. But I agree with you otherwise. Having a girl is equally horrible, though - raised in a society where looks means everything, peers and the media obliterate self-esteem constantly, and women are discouraged (often by other women) from the most lucrative and important fields of study and work. The reality is society has fucked us all.
/r/MensRights13/04/12 06:19 AM
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That was actually a well-reasoned post, and the personal rebuttal was nice.
/r/MensRights13/04/12 06:07 AM
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It was ridiculous to start. It has nothing to do with race.
/r/MensRights12/04/12 09:01 PM
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The best option for us who actually like it here is to simply stay out of it, and if it turns out to be a false-flag, then we can expose it as such.
/r/MensRights12/04/12 08:59 PM
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Even if she was in no state to consent, it's equally likely no guy she was with was either. And she consented to alcohol, so she consented to being drunk, so she's responsible for everything she did. If she had hit someone with her car, it would actually be a more serious offense and not less.
/r/MensRights12/04/12 08:55 PM
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I think it's perfectly reasonable for her to want the embryos, as long as he needn't be involved in the pregnancy or raising of the children. The embryos were already conceived, basically, and if she wants kids, more power to her. If he is monetarily responsible for those little bits of his DNA, then they should be destroyed, but otherwise, why not.
/r/MensRights12/04/12 08:44 PM
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The loss of tissue? Yes, I suppose so. Although it happened before my penis was even developed enough to notice.
/r/MensRights11/04/12 09:59 PM
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No it doesn't. Female circumcision is another issue because of the way it's done, not just what its ostensible purpose is. I'm not saying it's normal otherwise. Listen to what I'm saying, before you start screaming. All this energy directed towards an issue you have no power to influence, abuse that plenty of men continue to have normal lives afterward, isn't productive. False rape accusations and the unfair courts are a significant problem, because they're part of a culture that is moving incre…
/r/MensRights11/04/12 07:20 PM
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I don't have that problem and I never have. That means there's an issue with you.
/r/MensRights11/04/12 06:21 PM
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They aren't MRAs, so they're not seeing the posts here. And I would hardly call it horrific. Rape and bodily torture and systematic abuse of beings actually old enough to understand it are worse. War and slavery and global warming are all far worse. When there are fewer people dying in the Sudan then this would be a significant issue.
/r/MensRights11/04/12 06:21 PM
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There are all sorts of things that I disagree with here, but I'm going to stick to the actual point. The issue is that the male gender is not responsible for rape. "Men can stop rape" blames the male gender collectively, categorically, and exclusively for rape, which is a social and psychological problem which the whole society is responsible for. I don't give half a damn what you think it means. If it isn't sexist then reframing it in a nonsexist way shouldn't be problem.
/r/MensRights11/04/12 06:18 PM
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Okay, stop. This article is wrong. It is very viable and not at all painful to masturbate after circumcision, even without lubrication. Trust me on that one. And sex is still fun after being circumcised, although from what I understand, it is a bit less easy because of friction. Circumcision is an outdated practice, but of all the things facing men, and the human race as a whole, this is probably the least important issue of all. Unless you're bringing us news about the issue, I'm not sure what …
/r/MensRights11/04/12 01:37 PM
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I know some awful shithead people who make wonderful parents. Stripping someone of any right to give it a shot and raise his own child with love is completely horrible. Also, I do not understand at all how this protects women.
/r/MensRights11/04/12 01:30 PM
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The contexts of the phrase I am aware of are specific to males, and not men as in humans. Most women I've met don't believe women can rape men.
/r/MensRights11/04/12 01:25 PM
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Feminists are cisgendered as fuck and none of them realize it.
/r/MensRights08/04/12 03:01 AM
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The only guys I know who pander to women like she wants sleep with three girls a week or more. If she wants an actual relationship, she should find a guy who treats her like an equal and she should treat him like one, not have all of these expectations and expect him to be a mindreader.
/r/MensRights05/04/12 12:27 AM
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I think it's hilarious how her perfect man is all about actions and appearances, and she doesn't seem to care about his motivations or character as long as he plays the part well.
/r/MensRights04/04/12 09:04 PM
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I really, really hope that's a fucking joke. If it isn't, then she's just a stupid child.
/r/MensRights04/04/12 09:02 PM
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But not always. Some states have fault-related divorces and some don't. Read up on the law. That's why he asked.
/r/MensRights04/04/12 01:42 PM
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In keeping with the general opinion here, if she keeps it then it's hers alone. But I also think a man should be able to demand the child is brought to term, whether by the mother, or a surrogate, or whatever. If the woman didn't take proper precaution and the man is willing to be responsible, then he deserves that chance. In the case of medical emergency, the health of the mother should always trump health of the child, because most cases where the mother dies, so does the child. But it's bulls…
/r/MensRights03/04/12 12:25 AM
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I was going to caution everyone to start quoting this to all of their friends until it's been properly confirmed. As interesting as it is, there are all sorts of possible problems, including the severity and frequency of these injuries, etc.
/r/MensRights30/03/12 02:01 PM
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