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How are you defining status, what are your stats? Are you only talking about north america? I'm not red pill but it's obvious that male attraction looks for fertility first before looking for a relationship, and I'm not sure you're factoring in social pressure for any of these "men". Just look at stats for Muslim cultures or in Christian communities in the USA. The men with power and wealth there are typically married earlier and tend to look for multiple younger brides. The attraction to a youn…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 10:31 AM
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Nope. Heteronormative roles represent more than sexuality and are implicite to our political being. Candidates in political races who project power are more likely to be voted in to office. Masculinity has always been about weaponizing the penis for power, figuratively and literally. That is the essence of the Patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 03:39 PM
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Because men and women have biases about a man's social status that dismisses the social context and places emphasis on the man independence. The biases stems from another bias of women's emotional labour and women having an interdependent view of their own status, using their partner as a variable to access their value, as the one that makes the family cohesive and therefore measurable against other families. It's highly cultural.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 03:27 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attachment_in_adults
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 11:31 AM
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Body image anxiety and sports competence anxiety. Men are looking for a safe space that doesn't lead to them being emasculated in front of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 11:57 PM
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Mostly the guys trying to get over their exs, trying to hold on to them, or trying to police your daughters, wives, ect. You've got the right perspective, but you're probably not empathising with the men who've invested themselves into this shit as much as you should be asking. Some of these people need it because they lack values and are unable to formulate their own without coopt an identity, and others just have toxic values about women that needs to be reframed for them to help them get over…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 07:46 PM
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The idea that there is a perpetual contest in maintaining a relationship is as mentally sound as John Nash was when he came up with those outdated views of individuals. People aren't always looking to fuck you over, some people have different motivations for different types of commitment. Not every case of a relationship is a case of being in perpetual competition. Some men and women are healthy individuals who can pair bond and some are unhealthy, constantly surveying for potential new mates to…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 12:15 PM
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High SMV = constant surveillance, constant critique, constant assessment of future value. The social context is immensely important to these people. None of them step out of line without pressure to quickly return to status or go away indefinitely. We live under a manic cultural hegemony that is greater than any societal pressure the church or government has perpetuated. You bet I'd care about that stuff. I'm your average citizen saying stupid shit on the internet and I've faced immense social p…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 11:23 PM
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If someone had of given me the redpill when I was sixteen I would have become a better man, no doubt. I came from a small town with a very misogynist culture, though still secular, so a lot of the negative talk would not have surprised me. But the parts about working on loving yourself and playing the game as a rational human being would have struck me hard. I devoted too much of my time trying to become the man my oneitis would love or at least have sex with. I struggled with body image issues,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 10:40 PM
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Those people are highly attuned to social pressures and usually have deeply flawed personalities requiring immense supplies of validation and comfort. Imagine Michael Cera at 37 stepping outside without ever having a wife, but still mediocrely successful. Imagine the pressure he'd face to have normal relationships or state his case. I understand your point, but the fact is some people are Gangis Kongs, and some people need hugs and snuggles and occasional blow jobs. Look at Jeff Bezos.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 09:39 PM
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Nope. Some women are incapable of "falling" for one guy and others are good at pair bonding. It is biological, and some women like men are highly likely to "branch swing" and others find stability in relationships and so maybe only have a few partners by the time they're in their late twenties. Continuously seeking out fulfillment from new partners whether male or female well into your thirties after you've had 20-30+ sexual partners is a sign of unhealed trauma at worst or deep shallowness at b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 03:19 PM
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No, the opposite, I love a lot of communication. But there's a difference in her being critical of what I can't change and what I can as well as what is productive. And it's more so if I cheat or start jerking off to porn and avoiding intimacy with her or not. I enjoy pleasing women too much, to the degree that if you're never able to communicate satisfaction to me, I'll feel like shit and move on emotionally. And who wants to play a video game they know they will never beat? Well that's basical…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 03:05 PM
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I worked as a cook for years, went through culinary school: most of my job was about taking criticism and producing better shit to fill the trough. I can take it. But you quickly learn who can be pleased and who'll never be pleased in the process. Some women have high n-counts and high expectations because they're still trying to have other people heal the wounds their father left them with rather than deal with it themselves. I'm fine with daddy issues, but not at 28, if you've been a cum dumps…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 02:48 PM
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Any honest partner I've been with who's had multiple sexual partners was critical of my dick, of my style, of what she needed to be fulfilled. If I get too self-conscious it just sets off a place of insecurity in me that wants to know how to please them. I hate it, so I'd rather not know, but it usually becomes obvious. So unless you're a woman who'll keep quiet and fake orgasms every time and I ignore the signs that you've had an endless amount of experience and that you'll always be looking fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 01:50 PM
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You’ll get laid more because you’re mentally manipulating another human being, most likely a mentally insecure one. And then he sold them a work out video called: Suck it up: You can do it!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 09:40 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8vlLU6yEXY
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 09:23 PM
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Do you ever wonder if your particular insistence on categorising TRP is counterproductive towards your aims? I get the animosity towards the sex and gender roles, but I'm not sure you've realized the inconsistencies within the TRP's fully before you've ascribed your political narratives on to it and moved onto conversing with its most vocal. I think you're conflating political leanings with misogyny to such a degree that you're missing out on the universal aspects of misogyny within different cu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 10:40 AM
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What's wrong with lust? Because it a weak reason to live. It is an ignorance of the suffering of other by the privilege to do so, to simply be able to choose to live hedonistically. It looks as though a either a personality flaw to be so focused on the ideal, or even a disorder of the person to seek constant attention and validation; or it is worse, it is a society that lacks awareness of the chaos and disorder outside its borders. Lust that doesn't follow a great upheaval has always been seen t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 09:12 PM
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I don't take my online persona as seriously as I should sometimes. I forget sometimes the degree of which some people not having lives is multiplied into their energy to construct false characters, play vague social roles, and manifest attributes in text. I couple sincerity with a mock persona to such extremes that I sometimes get caught up in my pretenses or role playing to such an extent that I make people believe that these self-concepts are truly my own. In the same vein, I make promises tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 08:25 PM
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No. I'd evaluate the person's mentality the same, and I'd enjoy the confrontations and suspicious it would arose in others. If there was a enough of them, I'd buy a housecoat and a smoking pipe and start a risque magazine, and then I'd stick it to the man whenever I could, yadig?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 07:23 PM
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The hate should be condemned absolutely and in more responsible terms that what people of TRP offer. There are quite a few people who talk about after the anger stage who seem to have just misplaced that anger in their frame and give advice that neglects the treatment of women as equals. There projections assume a superiority that would be comical if it didn't reflect some sentiments of those who treat women without dignity around the world. There is most certainly methods of getting men to not …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 10:07 AM
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I've heard the same complaint about lawyers, though not subsidised education, more so about representation. I wonder though if this isn't fixable by promoting and funding fathers to stay at home with greater incentives than we offer women, or to change the workspace to allow women to be closer to their children during the first parts of their lives. It sounds ridiculous, but maybe the solution is more money and more flexibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 11:20 PM
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If you force men to behave feminine and force women to pursue traditionally "masculine" things then both sexes will probably handle it just fine. It's actually not the case, entirely. Women tend to occupy certain jobs due to psychology traits rather than cultural norms and so you can waste a lot of tax money trying to promote gender equality and never fix the problem. It might work to promote women in tech for instance, but you're most likely going to end up with outliers and major changes to ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 10:19 PM
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I'm only interested in hearing claims from people without studies to back them up because this isn't an academic forum. It's suppose to be filled with unsubstantiated claims and beliefs that say more about the subgroup than about the nature of people's relations. That's what makes it interesting and funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 11:35 AM
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Some of the stats I've read were taken from people in the fashion industry who work directly with models. I think the interesting part of most of the studies is how desire and attraction is not solely biology but is rather a mixture of mannerisms and attitudes, as is apparent to what people are saying in this thread. It seems difficult for people to accept their unconscious desires with their socially constructed fetishes as competing drives towards emotional regulation. The people who place the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 07:14 PM
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According to data from fashion industries and elsewhere, the unconscious selection in men seems to favour a body type in this age range and higher. It's more than likely why societies set up written and unwritten rules to these types of interactions, and why you react so viscerally to the suggestion, as it denotes an unspoken bias that places you in a position of weakness. The entire thing is so well know that it is continuously utilised for political control and manipulation by the cultural ind…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 01:49 PM
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the SJW crowd The cultural shift with Trump's presidency and the overall tightening of regulations on the internet coupled with increased targeting of of all groups with political affiliations has nullified the term SJW (social Justice warrior). The identity anxiety mindset has made victimhood competitive to the point that all groups under Generation X are defending their social boundaries and so can be derided as people trying to gain status through alliance. I have noted as well the trend amon…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 10:34 AM
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but it's also a "how not to get sexually bruatilized and murdered guide". Would love for you to read the rest of my replies. I'm wondering whether your striving for self preservation would benefit from other types of obsessive media consumption like women's MMA or martial arts in general. And if true crime were a chance to be analytical and study human behaviour, does this mean you are not just passively consuming the material but are engaged with it somehow, like writing? Because then I assume …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 11:37 AM
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Sounds like your not actually familiar with narcissism or sociopathology but are just using it as a pejorative. There is no reason positive and uplifting can't be associated with either of these traits. You're attempt to have others search for genuine attributes, good intentions, is commendable but ultimately disdainful for being linked with an ideology that projects inherent weakness into an entire subset of people. You might be positive and uplifting while talking shit, but that doesn't excuse…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 07:24 PM
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I didn't imply it was a negative, just that obsessive media consumption without critical thinking skills can result in behaviour changes. In this case I was pointing to role construction and ways of seeing a partner that lead to expectations to always make their partner safe. With anxious people, or people prone to passive consumption of media, this obsessive identifying seems to promote a certain set of rules and functions for the partner and relinquish the viewer of their sense of agency. I fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 11:31 AM
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So that's a no, you're not obsessed with this type of media then, right? And media in general doesn't have any effect on your behaviours? That's all I'm talking about. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 11:35 AM
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So that's a no, you're not obsessed with this type of media then, right? And media in general doesn't have any effect on your behaviours? That's all I'm talking about. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 11:34 AM
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I'm trying to suggest critical thinking skills are lacking in the west and that media determinism is a complicated subject. I think obsessions with certain types of media, coupled with passive consumption, can become detrimental to your relationships when expressed in your identity and how you are in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 11:31 AM
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It matters to the implicit role of males in a relationship that supposedly either hardwired or manufactured culturally. My inclination is that a partner will assume the other partner has a responsibility to protect them in the relationship and that if the media obsession was based on other elements like self defense and women's MMA the partner wouldn't assume the same, nor would they view their partner in the same manner or behave in the same way around them. And I'm not talking about casual vie…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 11:22 AM
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So that's a no, you're not obsessed with this type of media then, right? And media in general doesn't have any effect on your behaviours? That's all I'm talking about. Thanks for you input.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 11:15 AM
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Does an obsession with horror and true crime indicate either personality traits or inclination towards certain behaviours do you think? Could you group these women together that ritually watch and read these types of programs and make predictions about them, do you think? I'm not suggesting that watching and reading these things promotes anything detrimental to women at all, nor am I suggesting that my negative reaction to a woman's obsession with these types of programs is bad for her, just tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 11:13 AM
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What if it's just always placing you in the role of protecting them, having a duty to keep them safe for situations that they perceive as dangerous? Would you feel uncomfortable being with people with loose boundaries that get themselves in dangerous situations constantly and place you in position to protect them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 12:48 AM
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So that's a no, you're not obsessed with this type of media then, right? And media in general doesn't have any effect on your behaviours? That's all I'm talking about. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 09:53 PM
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Didn't think the red pill was supported by women and acted upon. I learned a lot about the differences of opinion and cultural/political cleavages in feminism through the Red Pill which I thought before were mostly Religious and regional. I think more about secular, conservative women and their political aesthetic and how the complexity seemed stunted emotionally and intellectually in the ought's and through to four or five years ago. There is a complexity and respect there that hasn't been pres…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 09:29 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 08:57 PM
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I don’t see the connection you’re making. Do you think if you were obsessed with self-defense videos, books, martial arts in general, or even Female MMA your behaviours would change towards your bf, or your perception of them would change unconsciously? Have you ever been critical of the media you consume to this point in order to understand its effects? it doesn’t change the way I view sex or marriage I don't believe you. I think media in general change our behaviours and that types of media af…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 08:56 PM
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Do you believe that any form of media would affect you decisions other than reason and rhetoric? Isn't it possible that your decisions are more aesthetic than what you'd like to tell yourself and that you may attach a lot decisions and ways of seeing on the mediated experiences you use to "unwind"? I am curious as to how if you consume these shows out of interest you can be critical of them enough that you're completely in control of what stays in your subconscious. Ditto.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 08:42 PM
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Do you believe that any form of media would affect you decisions other than reason and rhetoric? Isn't it possible that your decisions are more aesthetic than what you'd like to tell yourself and that you may attach a lot decisions and ways of seeing on the mediated experiences you use to "unwind"? I am curious as to how if you consume these shows out of interest you can be critical of them enough that you're completely in control of what stays in your subconscious.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 08:38 PM
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It's given me more respect for the views from red pill women who are honest about their desires and seem to be in opposition culturally. Many seem fascinating as rhetorical character studies. I view them artistically, expressing their character as a aesthetic/ political act in rhetoric, and as Red Pill I see them mostly as champions of a lifestyle Conservatism that is reminiscent of the late 70's and early 80's in Canada and the UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 08:15 PM
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I'm interested in critical thinking skills as they relate to media consumption and unconscious desires and behaviours, and I believe it is impossible to control our capacity to see the world and those around us subjectively without some sort of collective agreement in identity or affiliation with subgroups. The level of critical thinking may give you the capacity to detach from the media, but an obsessive inoculation will always manifest in categories, especially ones determining unconscious val…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 07:17 PM
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Still a level of presumption that I'm not comfortable with. Could you please address me as comrade?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 11:08 AM
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Do you think this interferes with your sex life? Does consuming media of a certain kind change your personality enough to complicate your sexual and intimate behaviours, or even interfere in the way in which you view your partner's obligations to you in the relationship? By obligations, I mean unconscious levels of protection, safety, trust, and so on. Do you think if you were obsessed with self-defense videos, books, martial arts in general, or even Female MMA your behaviours would change towar…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 11:06 AM
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Very presumptuous of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 10:58 AM
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Men don't, you don't, no one can view a type of people as plain sex objects entirely. That type of simplification might make sense to explain your actions to yourself, but that's not behaviorally true of people in general. There is a lot more grotesque power relations and selfish altruism at work in these interactions that make it much more complicated than simply a desire to put tab a into slot b. You can start by viewing sex as not the end goal, but a part of a goal that requires a individual …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 07:50 PM
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If you were writing scifi would your book's end goal for humans to have sex involve either a simply blatant contractual form of monitising relations as ultimately selfish, a sort of Randian rationalists make everyone into prostitutes, or would you accept a revival of the Zamyatin style of total equality sex? I'm seriously curious, and, pragmatically, want to use this world view for writing a dystopia because I think I could make money off of it and then go buy two hookers.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/19 10:40 PM
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I find it hard to believe the claim that the burden men undergo is due to women's power, and not a ideology that arose from a protestant christian bastardization of stoicism. Also, male disposability is such a common trope in culture that you'd have to be pretty damn ignorant of the arts to make these claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 08:50 PM
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A rational approach to an emotional response seems unlikely to work. These people need sublimations in healthy activities and narratives which can bring about a catharsis that might allow them to first distance themselves from the emotion, then become mindful of the emotion as it plays out so that they can further develop their own methods of overriding the emotions. The sublimations are culturally constructed and so become the duty of the community in which the individuals take their identity f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 10:10 AM
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Not sure what you mean by simply poor. If you mean the ability to earn money, then yes I'd consider that, but it's mostly about debt and expectations of wealth and how this translates to their personality. If you were a poor artist who was content with your life and I gathered that you didn't expect anything from dating me, and you also desired a ltr, then I'd gladly get involved. I don't mind sharing the burdens of life and accepting a simpler life if it'll be a healthy relationship. I'm just w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 10:25 AM
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100% - Would never consider a ltr with a girl with too much debt because of what this says about their personality and what this means for her expectations of me in the relationship. I consider a woman's independence financially to be a sign of her ability to have a happy relationship and eventually a successful family life. Knowing the power dynamic is rarely equal in my own relationships, I don't consider women with any kind of burdens to be able to attain their own happiness alone but rather …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 09:52 AM
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More so talking about very attractive younger women I've met in the past. Definitely not all the women I know, but the attractive model types, strippers, ect. that have given me the time of day have been like this. I haven't interacted with many highly attractive women in general though because I've spent most of my life in small communities. The majority of these interacts were also not in ideal locations for discussion. But I still would have no desire for someone that wants a personal enterta…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 08:05 PM
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I just want them to stick with a subject we're discussing and stop live-action scrolling for interesting objects/subjects/people. The ones who can't see anything but the instrumentality of people are worthless and don't deserve the attention thirsty idiots give to them. No agency, no depth, just plastic pleasure seeking dolls looking for their fix. Sad, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 11:07 AM
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Decreased social interactions creates further alienation of select groups, making instrumental cleavages that can be readily leveraged for political, economic, social purposes. Some feminists are aware of the power dynamic and see their function necessitating control which is what MGTOW are opting out of with the delusion that their group dynamic isn't being operationalized for other political aims. The point is their rhetoric, not their agency or their roles. If the group were to exist spontane…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 10:43 AM
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What if it is not idealizing the woman, but the relationship with the woman, given that couples evolve in response to their coupling? Gatsby doesn't seem to have agency in this case, nor does his "thot".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 09:09 AM
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What if he was incapable of staying in a relationship for too long and it was more of a cyclical thing of chase, honeymoon, stagnation, antagonism, break up, repeat? Wouldn't your narrative thinking overpower your rational view of your life, which seems to me to be about relinquishing your agency to others as well as future desires? Do you wait for your cookies because it is logical or because it is a part of your narrative thinking and so based in emotion? ... asking for a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 09:04 AM
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It's not media, it's what eating represents in regards to health and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 11:58 AM
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You've don't know what free verse is do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 11:36 AM
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I think there's a horrible entitlement problem with blue pilled men, and that the anger phase reflects more so on Blue Pilled people learning about the implicit biases of a general male cultural identity rather than the red pill's view of women's behaviour. I believe most violence is due to these men not respecting the harsh truths offered by the red pill, and that the fear mongering IS the best safety mechanism for those idiots prone to violence. The fear mongering is not much more than making …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 12:32 PM
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There is no wrong amount of vulnerability. There are people who cannot change who offer too much of themselves while expecting too much in return, and there are closed off people who will never have agency and never be happy with their partners internally and possibly externally. If you believe you need a partner to be happy and are self-aware, you'll modify these to the point that love is a cost/return analysis and keep dying your slow death, or you'll blunder on hoping for forgiveness and then…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 01:04 AM
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Depends on how good the sex is. And if she's not submissive at all, I'd get bored quick and move on unless she was interesting or fun and wanted a friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 09:44 PM
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Being intelligent and open to debate. It's impossible for me to be with someone who can't discuss and question their beliefs. Ideologically static girls are more than usually void of reason and don't want me to explain how their weakness for aesthetics leads to a flimsy sense of self, social coercion, and a lack of critical judgement. If she wants to bare my children or keep me around during life's usual stressful situations, she has to be able to argue for her values, or co-operate on a mutual …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 10:55 AM
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