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5k? Where are you eating man? Lol, in Manhattan. Dinner for 2 at a nice restaurant with a few drinks and a generous tip can easily run $150 to $200.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/02/19 12:46 AM
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I think that's pretty much BS. If she likes the guy's face, a simple "Hi" will be sufficient to get a response from her. If she doesn't it won't matter if he sends a the most carefully thought out well-crafted introductory message. There may be a small gray area in the middle where a thoughtful message makes a difference, but from the guy's perspective I doubt it's worth the trouble. The real problem here is that women can't admit to themselves or others that the man's appearance is of primary i…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/02/19 05:32 PM
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Obviously she is a nutjob, but what's funny is that she's just an extreme version of your typical post-wall THOT. Probably 20 or 30 years ago, men actually did defer to her nonsense in hopes of getting laid. Now that all that attention has dried up with her puss, it's helped her downward spiral. In my job, I regularly deal with callers from the general public and the most annoying callers are almost all middle-aged women just oozing entitlement out of every pore.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/02/19 05:20 PM
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I believe that step-parenting would not such a bad thing for the betterment of our society, It's great for society if men sacrifice endlessly to fix the damage caused by female misbehavior. It's even better, at least for women, if men do it without complaining or expecting anything in return other than the occasional pat on the head. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/02/19 02:51 PM
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Male preferences = fetishes. Female preferences = preferences. Thanks, Gynocentrism. How come you’ve never heard of women having a tall man fetish? Good point. For that matter, it's extremely common for East Asian women to have a preference for white guys. Apart from some angry Asian guys, society doesn't really knock them for it. By contrast, if a white guy has a preference for East Asian women, he has "yellow fever" or a "fetish," etc. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/02/19 02:06 PM
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I don't see what the big deal is about being fetishized. My first girlfriend was Chinese and she really really liked the fact that my eye color is not brown.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/02/19 02:02 PM
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Sounds like a good deal if the man doesn't want children. I agree, but I also agree with the other posters. As a man, why would I ever get married to a woman if we weren't going to have children? Women lose their sex appeal astonishingly quickly.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/02/19 10:27 AM
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My recount is quite paraphrased here from the original, but the 'panties-droppingly hot' part I emphasized were the actual words she used, and that really stuck with me. In a bad way. It's a story as old as time. Most men desperately want to feel sexually attractive to women; women take advantage of this to manipulate men in to sacrificing ourselves to support their interests. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/02/19 03:40 AM
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Oh yeah, when their profile is just a list of rules and regulations you just know they're absolutely full of themselves. A combination of being full of themselves and jaded. If a girl has had enough relationships that she needs to have official rules and policies, it makes her very unappealing to me.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/02/19 08:19 PM
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That being said, you would have an easier time convincing a man to give up on his polygamous ways for one innocent, cute, loyal girl than you would in trying to make a girl give up on her hypergamous ways. I kinda doubt it. After 10 or 20 years, that cute girl will no longer be sexually attractive. At that point, if the man has the opportunity to pursue other women, there is a very good chance he will. What keeps men in line is the severe financial and social consequences for following their pol…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/02/19 08:15 PM
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Men's polygamy instinct is just as strong as women's hypergamy instinct. If a man is capable of getting a woman without much trouble, there is a 90% chance he will repeat the process until he is juggling 5 or 10 women at the same time. Or more. So yeah, there are guys out there who are racking up hundreds of notches.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/02/19 04:03 PM
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It's so unattractive when women have rules in their dating profiles. I'm a rich guy and I have no problem at all paying for an expensive meal, but if I were single I would never date a girl who had a rule like that.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/02/19 03:57 PM
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Her bragging about her sex partner count of 30 is like a man bragging to his friends that he treated 30 women to dinner. I can think of one important difference. A man can make back the $5k he spent on expensive dinners, learn from the experience; and be a better man for it. If a woman has slept with 30 men, it damages her and there is no way to undo the damage. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/02/19 09:43 AM
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I wasn't exactly overeager to take the worst deal on planet earth. For some bizarre reason. Even if the woman is childless, if she's past a certain age it's still a pretty bad deal. Because she can't give you children; her sexual attractiveness is about to take a nosedive; and she's almost certainly lost her youthful innocence and sweetness and is instead somewhat jaded and bitter towards men. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/02/19 09:35 AM
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Edit: In summary, I don't believe women are making a choice based on what men are choosing. It's quite the opposite I think in general, women as a group set the agenda when it comes to sex, romance, and dating. So for example, feminists sometimes complain about the "skin gap" between men and women, i.e. that women tend to reveal much more revealing clothing than men. But in reality, women as a group could end the "skin gap" in a matter of weeks by simply choosing men who are dressed more reveali…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/02/19 03:09 PM
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It's amazing how different the life of a young woman is from that of a young man. For 90% of men, it would be literally impossible to get a few dates a week.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/02/19 02:55 PM
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A lot of assumptions. A woman who’s interested in finding a permanent partner goes on dates with 3 different guys over a 3 month period = probably fucked 100 guys? Listen, if you guys want to drive yourselves crazy, you’ll probably succeed. You seriously think this woman is still a virgin at age 28? Get real!!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/02/19 09:01 PM
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Still don’t see it. What she actually says is she DOESN’T want just a hook up. It’s called dating and it’s what people do when they are trying to find a mate to settle down with. The Cock Carousel is not limited to people who do "hook ups." It includes women who do short-term relationships. Even if all of a woman's sexual relationships are > 3 months and exclusive, she can still rack up an impressive body count by the time she is 28. This woman has probably fucked between 30 and 100 guys.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/02/19 04:33 PM
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I think that in general, when a woman has "rules" or "policies" about dating, it makes her far less attractive because it shows she's become cynical and jaded.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/02/19 03:30 PM
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Always going on about what they "deserve". If a man went on about how he "deserves" a woman just for existing they'd call him an incel misogynist chauvinist sexist pig. Yes, even if the man simply talks about what he wants or prefers, he is often accused of having an entitlement mentality.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/02/19 03:22 PM
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Where did she say anything remotely that indicates she always got pumped and dumped? She said although she's mostly been single, she has always had fun with a good amount of friends in the same boat. That translates to cock carousel? More or less, yes. You have to read between the lines because even in 2019 most women don't like to admit to being sluts. Anyway, here is what she says further down: Argh. I've had to move away recently so in the new town these past 4 months or so I've met 3 guys on…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/02/19 11:30 AM
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Yes, a woman with actual old school morals would have spent her youth being a devoted wife and mother. And certainly wouldn't be posting that kind of picture on a dating site. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/02/19 07:47 AM
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If a woman does these three things, she'll have him smitten forever. But modern women refuse to do these. Yeah, it's a bit depressing. 99.9% of women want a man who will fulfill his traditional role. So you would think some of them would make the logical leap that women should fulfill their traditional roles in return. And yet very few women will do this. It doesn't even occur to women that they should do this. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/02/19 06:11 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't one of the ideas behind feminism the idea of not judging based upon appearance? You're wrong. There is only one idea behind feminism: More power, status, money, freedom, and other goodies for women at men's expense. That is literally the only idea behind feminism. Some people will claim that "equality of the sexes" is an idea behind feminism, but pay close attention: Feminists demand "equality" when (and only when) it results in women getting more goodies at me…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/02/19 11:44 AM
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Yeah, I think the actual intended audience of an article like this is single moms. Do women pay for membership on that site? If so, there's your answer. I haven't checked, but I'm pretty sure that on dating web sites where women don't pay, you will never see this kind of article.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/02/19 08:55 AM
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To me, the biggest contradiction here is that she is a feminist but she still wants a man with traditionally valued male qualities: Tall, financially secure, confident and aggressive. You can bet that any man who manifests a desire for traditionally valued female qualities (chaste, submissive, slender) is an evil misogynistic pig in her view. And 99.9% of feminists are like this. The other thing is that you just know she throws away every last requirement when Chad comes a-knocking.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/02/19 08:42 AM
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Low quality is relative when awalt. If they are fun, sexy and relatively bright (for women) then its all good. Their flaws that are female nature won’t show up significantly in 6-8 weeks at a time we will be dating. Some guys are looking for a long-term relationship -- marriage, children, etc. For those guys, the current situation is pretty shitty.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/02/19 02:31 AM
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If you have no interest in a LTR then dating single moms casually is great. There is a little too much venom in sub at times. If you keep them in context and lock your cape away they are a lot of fun. I think nobody disputes that it's a great time to be a man if your goal in life is to fuck lots and lots of low quality chicks. As I understand things, the gripes here are that (1) the current situation is terrible for society; (2) the current situation is terrible for guys who want a traditional m…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/02/19 10:34 PM
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Stupid financially illitare women are not wife material, no mater how lovely and hot they may be. I would say it's a negative factor but not a disqualifying factor. So for example, my wife ran up $80k in credit card debt over the years. I agreed to pay it off on a 5 year plan which requires her to cancel all her credit cards. Which sucks, but it's pretty mild compared to a situation where the wife has been or is likely to get pregnant from another man. (And before you ask, I know my kids are act…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/02/19 12:21 AM
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No, but I have heard women many times try to spin a story in which they were flatly unreasonable and the man was calm and reasonable in an attempt to make it seem reversed Yes, they do that like 100% of the time. Which is why I don't think this story is real. If it were real, she would have emphasized that "Dave" did not de-activate his account while they were dating. She probably would have omitted the fact that she had sex with this other guy and simply said they went on a date. She probably w…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/01/19 01:25 PM
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In real life, have you ever heard a woman tell a dating story in which (1) she behaved unreasonably; (2) the man behaved completely reasonably? I am middle aged and in all my years I have never heard such a thing. In my experience, women always spin, exaggerate, and lie to make themselves seem reasonable and the man seem unreasonable.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/01/19 02:43 PM
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Sorry to get political, but I would guess a lot of "good men" support Trump -- and not necessarily because they like him or agree with his politics. Rather, a lot of American men correctly perceive that the entire political and cultural establishment is becoming more and more hostile to their basic and legitimate interests. And they perceive Trump as an outsider to that system. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/01/19 01:28 PM
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I am calling fake on this one. Women don't tell stories that make themselves look like bad people. If it were a real story, she would have omitted the part about having sex with her ONS and made it seem like Dave dumped her simply for going out on a date. Also, the fact that "Dave" reacted without showing any anger or hurt at all makes me think it's some guy's fantasy about kicking a thot to the curb.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/01/19 09:45 AM
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Bravo to you! You seem like a woman who is taking life seriously, using your head, not jumping to get offended at everything and being a solid human, not a "perfect modern american woman". Ummm, I'm a dude. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/01/19 10:02 PM
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And debt free. Actually in New York there are plenty of guys pulling down big salaries who would have no problem wifeing up an otherwise eligible woman who was $50 or $100k in debt. Look at it this way: Debt is problem that can be 100% fixed by paying money. On the other hand, there is no amount of money that can restore the reproductive system of a woman in her 30s back to how it was when she was in her 20s. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/01/19 01:19 AM
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How many guys say things like "my plan is to enjoy my youth!" ? I think it's pretty unusual. If a man says something like that, society's response is "get to work you lazy bum!" Which is actually the correct response. As a middle aged guy, I can see that youth is a precious resource.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/19 10:50 PM
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he modern American woman is the most pampered, most coddled, most privileged creature in all of human history. Absolutely no demographic has ever had it easier. The modern American woman has every advantage imaginable, from physical appearance to getting a leg up in education, employment, and social life. Everyone falls all over themselves to help a modern American woman. Everyone works extra hard to make sure a modern American woman has all of what she needs and most of what she wants. I agree …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/19 09:37 PM
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The two cities that come to mind immediately (at least in America) are New York and San Francisco. This probably applies to other urban metropolises as well, which tend to be made up of younger liberals, etc. etc.. Even in New York City, there is a huge shortage of marriageable women, defined as a woman who is single, childless, under 30, and not obese.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/19 09:29 PM
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This is good advice, but I would add one critical point: Ladies, if you are looking for a serious long-term relationship which is likely to result in marriage and children, the first question you should ask yourself when meeting a man is whether he seems like he will make a good father to your children. If the answer is "no," then don't waste any time on him no matter what. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/19 09:21 PM
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She is actually more honest than most women, she knows what she is Yeah, I am not going to judge her for seeking wealthy men.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/19 12:24 AM
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Out of the 66 women, only six are self-made, compared with 313 self-made men." Probably even those 6 were either (1) riding on the coat-tails of some man; or (2) transexuals. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/19 12:13 AM
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I don't know, but I would have squares for: "Tired of fuckboys" "Ready to settle down" "My children are my world" "I'm sassy/sarcastic" "Looking for a real man" "I'm a strong independent woman" ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/01/19 06:29 PM
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ah the ole stealth hooker profile on OLD Yeah, I think those are pretty common. Apparently there was a popular site for prostitutes which got shut down a year or so ago and since then, the hookers have been flooding into other sites. Anyway, like a lot of guys have observed, hookers at least offer a concrete service for a specific price; they generally don't ask us guys to sacrifice endlessly while receiving very little in exchange. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/01/19 06:48 PM
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Yeah, I think that all romantic relationships are ultimately transactional, which isn't a problem in and of itself. The problem comes in when women -- and by extension, society -- refuse to appreciate or are outright dismissive of men's legitimate desires and ends in such transactions.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/01/19 06:27 PM
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I suspect that she is saying she will fuck for money, but in a polite way so she won't get banned from whatever dating site. Anyway, I don't have a huge issue with this post; it's basically an opportunity for some fat, bald, but rich guy in his 50s to date out of his league. If she is childless and still has about 5 years left in her fertility window, that's worth something to a lot of guys. If she has $50k or $100k in debt, that's easily manageable for a lot of guys. ​ ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/01/19 06:06 PM
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Your comment triggered millions of late 30s cat ladies. Thanks. What they need to understand is that men's feelings matter. I am a short guy and I can forgive women for preferring tall men for no good reason. They need to forgive me for preferring young women.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/01/19 05:10 PM
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She hits so many spots on the bingo card that I wonder if the this personal add is trolling/parody.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/01/19 04:55 PM
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I like to date younger women because they're fun, vibrant, and have less baggage. That may be true, but I think it's worth reminding ourselves as men that we don't have to justify, defend, or explain our preferences to anyone. It's pretty unusual (in the mainstream) that a woman is called on to explain, for example, why she prefers a man taller than her. It just makes her feel good and that's reason enough. Well, it makes me feel good to date women in their 20s and that is reason enough. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/01/19 04:22 PM
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It's funny how much everyone freaks out about middle aged men being attracted to girls in their 20s. I didn't really notice this or pay much attention to it as a young man, but now that I'm in my 40s, people seem to think I'm some kind of inhuman monster for being attracted to girls in their 20s. It's true that young women are a bit better than middle-aged women in terms of personality, but I think this has more to do with the fact that middle aged women tend to get depressed and bitter over the…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/01/19 04:19 PM
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The only exception is the advertising industry trying to sell us beer and cars I think this is correct, but consider, for example the beer advertisements from a few years back which featured the "Swedish Bikini Team." There was a huge freak-out about it even though it was obviously tongue-in-cheek. Even with advertising and products for men, women's feelings are given a high priority.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/01/19 04:09 PM
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Seriously. Sarcasm = very lippy and argumentative on those profiles Yeah, part of the problem is that for the most part, women are not all that witty. 99 times out of 100 they simply take advantage of the fact that people are more deferential to women and say things which would immediately be recognized as unreasonable or mean-spirited if a man said them. ​ ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/01/19 04:02 PM
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Diamond in the Rough Almost certainly she really does think about herself that way. As another poster pointed out, almost all women think of themselves as a "catch." If they settle, in their minds it's because there's something wrong with men, not because they themselves have a lot of undesirable qualities. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/01/19 11:26 AM
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It's funny how these broads don't seem to appreciate that men don't see sarcasm as a big positive with a woman.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/01/19 11:24 AM
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All but one picture are filtered. The one unfiltered picture really shows her age. Probably due to her lifestyle she seems to be losing a lot of bone mass in her jaws, which gives her mouth area sort of a sunken look to it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/01/19 11:19 AM
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They don’t look at it from the guys point of view. In general, society as a whole doesn't look at anything from men's point of view.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/01/19 12:49 AM
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I’m sure it’s more comforting to believe posts like this are fake if you haven’t witnessed women doing and saying exactly this in your extended circle of friends. Of course they do and say things like this, the question is how open they are about it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/01/19 10:11 PM
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That comment about pro-life is fucking golden Probably if she finds her beta provider and he gets her pregnant, she won't be pro-life anymore. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/01/19 07:51 PM
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When she breaks up with you, you will always be "abusive" for things like dominating her, even though she made it clear that this is what she likes. Yes, I completely believe in the light switch theory. When things end badly with a girl, she retroactively re-writes the history of the relationship in her mind; every last thing you did will be cast in a negative light.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/01/19 07:36 PM
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Literally 100% of the time "prefer not to say" means the less desirable option. So if she "prefers not to say" whether she has children, it's guaranteed she's a mom.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/01/19 11:23 AM
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I agree 100% and I would emphasize that even though there are practical reasons for preferring a woman with a low n count, there is no need for us guys to justify or defend our preferences with practical reasons. Our feelings are enough. By analogy, girls have the right to prefer men who are taller than them even if there is no practical justification for it. Women's feelings matter and men's feelings matter too.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/01/19 10:32 PM
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There's still a supply of sex-starved men who are too focused on getting laid to think straight. The tide is slowly turning though. I think there are two important factors in play: First, in another 10 or 20 years there will be realistic sex-bots, like Pris from Blade Runner except not homicidal. Second, there is a small number of women (in insulated religious communities) who are raised from birth to be traditional and submissive. These types of women are reproducing like crazy since they don't…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/01/19 01:57 PM
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One issue here is that most women don't understand what they actually want. They may think they want a man who will text them "hello beautiful" every morning, but most guys learn pretty quickly that when you do things like that, what happens is the girl perceives you are valuing her; which in her subconscious mind raises her status relative to yours; which triggers her hypergamy instinct and she starts losing attraction for you. Every time in my life I have done something nice for a girl I was c…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/01/19 01:38 PM
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Maybe bolde is in fact a troll site? Subtle sarcasm maybe?? I think it's serious. Something like 99% of women I talk to are complete hypocrites when it comes to gender roles in society. They want men to honor their traditional male responsibilities; they think women should not have to honor their traditional responsibilities; and they see no contradiction whatsoever there. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/01/19 11:26 PM
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It seems like every article in Bolde is basically the same: 1. A stock photo of an attractive woman; 2. A bunch of hypocritical self entitled whining in list format 3. The actual author is far less attractive than the model at the top and not in a position to make demands.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/01/19 08:04 AM
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By the way, the attractive girl kneeling in the photo at the top of the page is Not the piece's author AFAICT. Anyway, people can obviously have whatever requirements they want. I myself am a father but if I were single I would not date single mothers. The real question is whether this author is critical of men who refuse to date single mothers. And whether she seriously expects men to value her as much as they would if she were childless.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/01/19 01:57 AM
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Women's biology dooms them either way. Pick a beta and be bored and miserable and pick an alpha and be a mistreated single mom Everyone's biology dooms them. If a man marries a girl who is nice and cute, she will eventually turn into an old hag, pretty much guaranteed. The man can rectify this by dumping his wife for some young hottie, but this is a very expensive solution and one that is, mathematically speaking, not available to most men. The difference is that women are constantly fed the ide…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/01/19 09:48 PM
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There is no such thing as the vagina carousel. I think there is in the sense that there do exist guys who waste their youth chasing tail. Nobody is better off for having N>100.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/01/19 06:09 PM
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I would say it's a close call. A lot of the postings here seem fake, but I think it's actually pretty common for women to come out and say "I'm too young for a serious relationship I want to enjoy my youth" which pretty much means "I want to fuck a lot of Chads." ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/01/19 06:02 PM
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there are 2 choices, one she will regret in her 20s, one she will regret in her 30s. 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, and even 80s. When she's at the nursing home and other women have their children and grandchildren showing up to cheer them up and make sure they are being properly taken care of, what will she have? The 50-year-old memory of Chad's cock. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/01/19 05:55 PM
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What concerns me more is "old fashioned," because usually that means she wants the man to have all of the traditionally valued male qualities but has no interest at all in offering traditionally valued female qualities. After all, a truly "old fashioned" woman would not be trolling Tinder at age 36. A truly "old fashioned" woman would understand that men prefer women who are physically fit and would deny herself that extra piece of pie in order to please the man in her life. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/01/19 12:41 AM
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She might be okay with fulfilling traditional female obligations. It seems her profile is a bit tongue in cheek. And if she is really 25, well that's something. But I think she is lying about her age based on the shape of her breasts and spots on her skin. I would guess that she is fast approaching the wall and looking for the beta bux.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/19 09:04 PM
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If a woman looks, dresses and likely acts like a man... she won't find men. It's simple logic. I think women can look okay in jeans and a t-shirt IF they have long hair.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/01/19 11:17 PM
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As I mentioned in the other thread, there is another factor here which is age. I'm pretty confident that all of those female lawyers, business owners, etc. were 35+. See, it's not just that women mistakenly think that men do or should value career success; they also ignore just how important age is to a man. A man who is looking for a wife is presumably hoping to start a family and a woman in her late 30s is not able to do that safely. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/01/19 11:37 PM
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By why would feminists care about men dating single women or not? They boggle my mind! For the same reason feminists care about men not dating women are are fat; not dating women who are old; or even using sex dolls. Male choice and male preferences get in the way of women getting what they want from men. Because at the end of the day, feminism is about exploiting men in order to satisfy women's wants. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/01/19 03:25 PM
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This post is fake. No real life woman uses the word "n-count" to describe their sexual past. I agree. Also, a real life woman would have lied to make her position seem more reasonable and the man's less reasonable. So for example, she would have claimed 2 or 3 partners and said that the man wouldn't marry her because she's not a virgin. Actually a real life woman would have solved the problem by lying about it and wouldn't be asking for advice on Reddit. I would guess about 75% of the time when …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/01/19 01:44 PM
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These men she meets with "wonderful careers" all spent their youths acting responsibly. Imagine if a guy "made some mistakes in his youth" by dropping out of high school, working dead end jobs, etc. And at age 30 was a minimum wage burger flipper. How would people react if such a guy complained on Reddit that girls -- even girls with good jobs of their own -- were rejecting him over his career circumstances? They would correctly point out that girls have preferences; that he unfortunately made h…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/01/19 08:27 AM
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Where does it show a picture of her? If you image search her name, there are lots of pictures out there. She looks like your typical angry, bitter, man-hating post-wall feminist. It's hard not to let her inner ugliness taint one's assessment. One thing to keep in mind that these feminist pieces on dating and relationships almost invariably include a stock photo of an attractive female model at the top. Then when you image search the actual author, you find out that she is far less attractive. Wo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/01/19 05:13 PM
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even at best she is a 3/4 in my book (at best in her youth) i suspect the kind of people she has been dating is spineless "woke" losers who have no other option so naturally do whatever they are told. I can imagine she looked decent about 20 years ago. I wouldnt touch her. Me neither, but it's not just the fact that she's post-wall and unattractive. Nor is it just the fact that she is obviously a bitter man-hating feminist. It's also that it's very likely she's had literally hundreds of sex part…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/01/19 12:20 PM
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cant work out why everyone isnt falling overthemselves to date her, can you? Sure, but the real problem here -- as always -- is that she is post-wall. If she were 25, plenty of guys would humor her. Which is probably part of the reason she's so nutty, i.e. a lack of criticism or negative feedback from men.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/01/19 11:47 AM
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She is trolling big time. There is no possible way that a normal human can be this egregiously delusional and hypocritical at the same time. I would have to disagree. I regularly encounter feminists in real life and they are all pretty much delusional and hypocritical. Pretty much all of them want all the advantages that come from traditional sex roles but refuse to accept any of the disadvantages. Pretty much all of them believe at some level that men exist only to serve them and are pretty muc…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/01/19 11:20 AM
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Chivalry wasnt a one way road with just rights for women and responsibilities on men Yes, that's what it comes down to. She wants all the advantages which come from traditional sex roles but won't accept any of the (perceived) disadvantages. Nowhere in her list does she say that she is willing to do the necessary work so that her man comes home at the end of the day to a clean, quiet house with a nice hot meal waiting for him. Of course not -- that would be sexist and demeaning. Nowhere in her l…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/01/19 11:16 AM
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I seriously have never understood this. I think a lot of what's going on is that a reasonably attractive girl in her early 20s is bombarded with sexual and romantic attention from men. So it's sooooo tempting to try for a better deal. Especially since you know that if anything goes wrong, it's extremely easy to find another new person. I think a reasonably attractive girl in her 20s -- let's say a 7/10 -- is going to get more sexual attention than a Chad who isn't also a famous musician or actor…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/01/19 07:00 PM
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What gives the game away is the timing and circumstances. If a 21 year old childless woman says that she dated a few abusive bad-boys but has emotionally matured, it's potentially believable. But inevitably the women who claim to have emotionally matured are either (1) single moms; (2) post-wall; or (3) very close to the wall. In other words, women's "readiness" and "emotional maturity" to stop dating the fuck-boys is correlated almost perfectly with their financial needs and reduced ability to …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/01/19 03:13 PM
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I doubt she cares that much tbh. It’s just a lie. I think that when a guy cheats, he's usually willing to admit (at least to himself) that he's cheating. When women cheat, they tend to convince themselves that they are not.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/01/19 03:11 PM
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I only cheat if you cheat! Probably she has some self-serving definition of "cheating" which lets her feel okay about fucking other guys if her boyfriend/husband admires the cheerleaders at a sporting event. ​ ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/01/19 10:25 AM
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It's funny how she talks about "loyalty" while at the same time her relationship status is "it's complicated." ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/01/19 08:44 AM
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I think there's a good chance you are right, but anyway you slice it it boils down to the same thing: She's not attractive enough to get commitment from the men she finds attractive.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/01/19 12:02 PM
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She's cute to be sure, but it's mainly because she is young with clear skin. Once her youth is gone, she will be pretty ugly. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/01/19 12:06 PM
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At least she is open to dating men significantly older than her and still has a decent amount of her fertility window left. For a 50 year old guy who wants to start a family, she's a pretty good deal, assuming that she's legit. The bigger concern is that this is a green card scam. That once you bring her back to the United States, she will start cheating on you immediately and she will start divorce proceedings the day she gets her residency card. Or that she will even fabricate domestic violenc…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/01/19 12:04 PM
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but I think it has a great parallel with incels, guys who go through life without putting much thought into it The difference is that Carol has everything offered up to her on a silver platter. Literally all she has to do is (1) not be obese; and (2) eliminate from consideration all potential boyfriends/husbands who are unstable/unreliable/looking for a quick lay. To achieve (2), all she needs to do is (a) insist that the man have a job and a clean criminal record; and (b) not jump right into be…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/01/19 08:09 PM
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Yeah, it seems very likely she's a headcase. Probably she does date guys who are relationship material but who quickly realize that she is NOT relationship material. A lot of the women featured here would have been better off marrying young, but this is one who would be better off (and society would be better off) if she ended up a spinster. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/01/19 08:02 PM
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Those were two different responses, jackass, it's called context. Lol, checkmate. Bye Felipe! ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/01/19 04:23 PM
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I'm going to guess that you own more than one fedora. ​ Who gives a fuck what your guess is? I'm not guessing shit, ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/01/19 03:22 PM
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I agree but I would take it further. Even if you are pretty good at talking to women, "creepy" includes any situation where (1) the girl is not attracted to the man; and (2) he does anything which makes her think he is hitting on her. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/01/19 02:00 PM
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I'm going to guess that you are a feminist/white knight whose go-to argument is "But you're sexually unattractive!" ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/01/19 08:52 AM
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I would guess early 40s. The filter she used doesn't fully hide her labio-nasal folds. As I mentioned in another thread, evolution has made us guys very very good at detecting how fertile a woman is likely to be based on even minor visual cues. My "small head" says she's post-wall and this is one area where I trust my small head. I would be willing to bet serious money that this woman is over 35 and I am pretty sure she is 40+ ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/01/19 12:59 AM
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Perhaps, but I think that at some level women know what men like. If Mr. Tall Rich & Handsome took this woman out on a date, would she be cursing left and right? I doubt it. She would act sweet and nice and submissive. I think that women like this curse because they are constantly messaged on these types of dating sites so they feel subconsciously that they have a lot of power. I think it's instructive to use Chad-esque dating profiles; it gives you insight into women's online behavior.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/01/19 12:55 AM
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Generally men are nice to women because they want to fuck them. Yes, it may have been a mistake to give women the vote but the bigger mistake was to give them the unchecked power to make their own sexual decisions. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/01/19 03:59 PM
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It's close, but I'm going to guess that this is parody/trolling.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/01/19 11:39 AM
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How long til #notarealman is pushed by the (((social media cartel))) to shame white men into marrying these Thotinas. Yes, it's all because of the Jewish Conspiracy :rolls eyes: No different that feminists who blame everything on the Patriarchy. ​ ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/01/19 06:37 AM
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"Ready" -- n > 50 "Tired" -- n > 100 "Settle down" -- literally "settle" "down" "Fun" - fucking "Adventure" - fucking "Travel" - fucking overseas
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/01/19 06:17 PM
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level 3 selfishness: narcissism. Whatever level you call it, it's extremely common for women. These days, most wives who cook are doing it for the children and the husband is an afterthought.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/01/19 09:03 AM
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And still men will msg her Yes, but I'm pretty confident she won't find the sucker she is looking for. Instead, she will get exactly what she deserves, which is another P&D by some guy who superficially pretends to be a provider type.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/01/19 08:46 AM
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Don't get me wrong about the loving and loyal part, that is all fine and good. Assuming it's true, of course. Probably most women think that they are loyal and loving. When they are disloyal, they invent some rationalization for it. What man wants to have to do all the cooking himself in a relationship? If I met a girl who otherwise ticked all the boxes but wanted me to do 100% of the cooking, I would jump on that deal so fast your head would spin around. If she were sweet and nice and and young…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/01/19 06:19 PM
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At least she's honest that her Chadspawn will come first. By the way, there is a subtle red flag here which is that she describes herself as a "domestic violence survivor." Using that sort of language means that on top of everything else she is a huge feminist who will refuse to do any of the traditional things that men like. Also, the vast majority of women who are involved in domestic violence provoke it through their own unreasonable behavior usually including physically assaulting the man. I…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/01/19 05:18 PM
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By the way, I found the Today show interview which demonstrates how successful she is as a humorist: https://www.today.com/video/humor-columnist-i-feel-better-past-60-than-at-20-40254019915 Basically it's her whining about how she's completely okay with her post-wall appearance. There are a bunch of fierce brave post-wall women in the background holding up signs with their ages on them. Nothing particularly funny about it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/01/19 05:02 PM
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Another article she wrote: A Backyard Full of Muscular Men I love to walk, and because I never drive when I can stroll, I walk for at least an hour a day. Happily, this lets me indulge in one of my other hobbies— ogling arborists. I first acquired an appreciation of tree guys over a decade ago, when my neighbors began warning me that the ailing birch in my backyard needed to be cut down before it decided to come down itself. On my roof. So I phoned around and hired a tree service. When I looked …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/01/19 03:41 PM
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She definitely made me laugh by claiming a successful humorist is one who has been on the Today Show. If you want another laugh at her expense, check out her Youtube video interview. She goes on and on about how funny she is without actually saying anything funny. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/01/19 03:00 PM
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We met on JDate’... sigh. Cesspit of entitlement .. Are there any online dating sites that are NOT a cesspit of female entitlement?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/01/19 02:57 PM
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Yeah, although I think it's not the lack of cooking per se but the attitude it reveals. For most guys, if the woman is otherwise willing to live up to her feminine role (cleaning, laundry, blowjobs with eye contact, etc.) but for whatever reason won't cook, they will have no problem with it. What this woman is really communicating is that she considers it an imposition for men to want her to fulfill their desires in a relationship. That men's desires are somehow invalid. At the same time, she co…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/01/19 02:49 PM
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By the way, last year this same woman wrote an article about the types of guys she doesn't like. Here is one: > “Allergic to Work" “I’m too busy conquering the 847th level of this video game to hunt for a job. And you make enough to support us both, honeybunch.” That's right guys. If the man wants her to cook, he's imposing "gendered" expectations on her. But it's perfectly ok for her to insist that he work, even though she makes enough money to support him. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/01/19 12:34 PM
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If you expect a gendered role, you have to provide a gendered role in return. Yeah, I made this point up thread before seeing your post. What's shocking is that virtually all women feel this way, i.e. they are extremely gendered in their relationship requirements while at the same time objecting vehemently when men have gendered relationship requirements. What percentage of Western women would agree that it's totally reasonable for a men to prefer a woman who is young, fit, submissive, chaste, a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/01/19 12:09 PM
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Being able to cook isn't about servitude. Even if it is, so what? Why is it so terrible that a wife should serve her husband? In most cases he is serving her by busting his ass at a miserable job in order to pay the bills.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/01/19 12:02 PM
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> I find this exasperating, if only because it's so gendered. Can you imagine a woman turning down an otherwise wonderful man upon learning that he would never prepare her a delicious dinner? Of course you can't. Perhaps not, but I certainly can imagine woman turning down an otherwise wonderful man because (1) he's not taller than her; (2) he is not a successful professional; (3) he has a a meek personality and is not a confident "alpha" type. In other words, women's preferences are extremely "g…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/01/19 11:45 AM
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Yeah, I once hired a photographer who was a great photographer but also an alcoholic who couldn't get things done on time. I was seriously worried that he would show up late or drunk to an event. So of course I never used him again and never recommended him to anyone. He went out of business a year or two later. No blackballing required, it was just his own incompetence. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/12/18 09:52 PM
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I wonder if there is a real, really verifiable way to know for sure. I wasn't commenting on the particulars of the case. My point is simply that the movie industry is sufficiently concentrated into the hands of a few big studios that it may very well be possible to get blackballed. i.e. some high ranking studio exec can make a few calls and completely ruin an aspiring actor or actress' career. But with professional photography, there are literally tens of millions of potential customers. So it d…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/12/18 09:50 PM
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Nah, let's be brutally honest she just lacks talent Having hired an event photographer before, I can say that it's much better to have a mediocre photographer who is solid, dependable, and reliable than a great photographer who is an irresponsible screw-up. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/12/18 08:33 PM
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Right again Good Sir - the SMV increase in thier late 30s and 40s leads some men to infidleity with the younger and hotter 20-something. I won't disagree with you on that. Thanks, although bringing it back to the comment that started this, it's pure feminist fantasy that single moms are women who have been "traded in" by successful middle aged men. In reality, those men pay dearly and those first wives normally end up with the house, a nice car, fat alimony and child support payments, etc. When …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/12/18 08:19 PM
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Assuming the marriage is going very nicely men are less likely to cheat, but more importantly and less likely based on the penalties for divorce: Well I think what happens in a lot of situations is that the man experiences a modest increase in his SMV between, say, ages 25 and 45. Because if he stays in shape, his looks have deteriorated by perhaps 1 point but if he's become successful, his wealth and social status have increased his SMV by 2 or 3 points. So suddenly he's getting attention from …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/12/18 07:37 PM
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I see you're point, but that's an $80K plus interest lesson over 5 years. That's not exactly chump change and could be invested, used for education, or anything that's not debt. It sounds like you've got a handle on it, but I would be furious seeing 80K of my hard earned money wasted. Well another key to a successful marriage is not to be overly concerned with money. 90% of women are huge money-wasters and in fact one of the big reasons women get married is because they are looking for access to…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/12/18 07:23 PM
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Sorry to hear it. Get it paid off as quickly as possible. Actually I think it's better to pay it off slowly. Because dread is a much better motivator than gratitude, especially with women. If I paid off the whole $80k in one shot, she would quickly forget about it. Instead, I put it on a 5-year payment plan. If for any reason I stop making the payments, her credit is completely fucked. See, marriage is not for everyone but the key to a successful marriage is that the woman must be scared of what…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/12/18 05:59 PM
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For me, the key word is "fun" which means that whatever else her profile says, she's down to fuck. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/12/18 05:19 PM
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Can confirm, my wife ran up $80k in credit card debt behind my back.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/12/18 05:15 PM
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It reminds me of a saying I heard recently: "A woman worries about her future until she finds a husband; a man doesn't worry about his future until he finds a wife." ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/12/18 05:14 PM
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Men who have strong tendency to cheat, beat their wives, or show themselves as bad picks for husbands demonstrate very early in the relationship and make their behavior well known...at least to the women considering marriage. I agree to a large extent. Even though the stereotype is that men are the cheaters, it's worth keeping in mind that (1) husbands have much less opportunity to cheat than wives; and (2) women are much more likely to lie about this kind of thing when asked questions on anonym…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/12/18 04:30 PM
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I've read that "stealing" someone else's online photos could conceivably be a career damaging offense in that field. Perhaps, but most people who are hiring a photographer for a bar mitvah or a kid's birthday party aren't going to do a lot of detective work, if their friend or neighbor used that photographer and had good results, they will use the same person. I guess what I'm trying to say is that professional photography isn't all that centralized. I could see being blackballed as a news photo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/12/18 04:18 PM
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for whatever reason she couldn't convince her long-term bf to commit to her. I think it's pretty likely that she left him to take a spin on the carousel. Because if the boyfriend had been the one to leave her, she almost surely would have mentioned that in her story. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/12/18 02:31 PM
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no idea how you can be blackballed from this guessing she was just a bad photographer Yeah it makes no sense at all. Photography is not like the movie industry where there is some Harvey Weinstein type who can say "you'll never work in this town again!" if you piss him off. I agree that she was probably a bad photographer. Probably a combination of that and just being an all-around difficult person.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/12/18 02:28 PM
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What's interesting to me is what's missing from this story. She doesn't say how her long term 20s relationship ended. Most likely, she decided she needed to "find herself," i.e. sex with her long-term boyfriend was boring and she wanted some of that hot Chad action. That's the problem with trying to lock down an inexperienced woman. No matter how big your dick is, she will constantly be subject to various influences urging her to hop on the carousel. ​ ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/12/18 02:23 PM
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What about divorced cowmen who filed for divorce because their ex husband beat or cheated on them?? Despite what feminists say, actual wife beating is pretty unusual. What's not unusual is for women to lie about relationship problems in order to put themselves in a more sympathetic light. As far as cheating goes, society needs to accept that male marital infidelity is much less destructive than female marital infidelity. Anyway, it's dishonest to use rare exceptions as a way to distract from gen…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/12/18 11:07 AM
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Yeah, I can't remember ever seeing a television or movie which portrayed a single mother unsympathetically. For that matter it's pretty rare to see a television or movie which portrays ANY mother unsympathetically. I remember the movie Kramer versus Kramer which came out back in the 1970s. It depicts a woman abandoning her husband and child to "find herself"; the man adapts and becomes a great father; then the woman comes back and tries to get custody of the child. 40 years later, I don't think …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/12/18 10:57 AM
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Some balding fat beta with a shit middle income job will without a doubt wife her up, and while she will do it for the money and American citizenship, she will fucking hate him and make him miserable! I kinda doubt it since there are plenty of Filipinas who are young and hot who would jump on the possibility of marrying Mr. Bald Fat Beta. Of course almost all of them will cheat on him from day 1, demand money to support her entire village back in the Phils; and divorce him the day they get their…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/12/18 04:34 AM
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Hard to make sense of it, but applying Bayes Theorem it seems very unlikely she is offering to share a house and car with her potential husband.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/12/18 02:37 AM
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Not surprising at all really. It's not uncommon. It's very common but what's rare is for women to admit it so openly. That's why I'm pretty sure it's fake. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/12/18 12:56 AM
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37-year-old dudes whose 'looking for' OKCupid age bracket spans from the fresh-faced bloom of 18 to the withered, decrepit heights of 25, I'm looking at you.* In reality, it's probably worse than she realizes. A lot of people -- male and female -- don't fully disclose their preferences in their dating profile because they prefer not to get nasty messages. In 2018, a man who is over 35 and wants to date a girl who is 10 or more years younger than him is considered by many to be some kind of pedop…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/12/18 11:16 PM
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Ever met a classy single 40 year old that wasn't on the verge of hating all men? I haven't. I have met a few, yes. Although it can be hard to tell because when a girl is interested in a man, she is on her best behavior.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/12/18 09:31 PM
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I agree with this about 75%. But even if a girl is sweet and chaste and submissive, if she's 35+, I have no interest in dating her. (If we've already been married 10 years, that's a completely different story, of course. ) Because much of the value a woman brings to a relationship is her ability to bear healthy children. So in a real sense, age ruins women. Feminists may hate and deny this fact, but that's reality. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/12/18 09:26 PM
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They like to delude themselves and their husband they are committing for life because this makes it easier to extract the resources necessary for raising children, but sooner or later they are going to get bored. Agreed, but at the same time women are extremely sensitive to social pressure. If there is enough stigma associated with straying, most will stay and stay loyal.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/12/18 08:33 PM
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It's the reason why they stick around, despite being beaten by violent men. That is also consistent with being excited by bad-boy types. Look at it this way: How often do women jump into sexual relationships with aspergy men in an effort to fix them? If the motivation was "fixing," one would expect this to happen a lot but it never does. Aspergy men generally struggle romantically.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/12/18 08:27 PM
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Honestly, I doubt that any woman is trying to save or fix a man. More likely they prefer not to admit the truth which is that they are excited by bad-boy types. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/12/18 07:23 PM
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She's obviously mentally ill. A lot of the women featured here would have been better off marrying young to a "good man," but this one? She would have been a terrible mother and wife.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/12/18 07:21 PM
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she suddenly found G-d and currently is looking for Jesus Funny how they always find Jesus when it's convenient. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/12/18 06:29 PM
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So I should become amish and find a bride there? Is that really the best option? If (1) you want to marry a virgin; (2) you want her to stay with you and never stray; and (3) you are not Chad, that's probably the best option, at least in the United States. Probably there are still some third-world shit-holes with super-traditional cultures you could go to. Just make sure that your virgin bride never sets foot in the West and never gets citizenship. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/12/18 06:23 PM
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Friendship with women is a one way street. Agreed, a woman who is "just friends" will generally interact with you only at her convenience. She will call you when she is bored, has nothing better to do, needs someone to listen to her, or needs some kind of favor. When the situation is reversed, the woman is nowhere to be found. I'm pretty sure that women who are friends with each other usually don't treat each other this way.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/12/18 04:01 PM
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Trying to have your cake and eat it too is the very definition of stupidity. It's true that they tend to lack good judgment. Part of it is the situation they are in, though. When you are deluged with options, it's difficult to make decisions in an organized, intelligent way. Your average single guy (not especially handsome or ugly) who is looking to date may end up pursuing no more than a few girls a year. Maybe once every month or two he meets a girl who seems interested in him and who may be s…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/12/18 03:31 PM
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The real problem here -- in my opinion -- is the order in which she is (presumably) applying her criteria. If she started with the set of reliable, solid guys who are likely to treat her well, and then picked the one who was most physically attractive, everything would work out fine. But almost certainly what she does is start with the set of the most physically attractive guys and then eliminates (or gets dumped by) the ones who are unacceptable for other reasons, which is likely to cause her t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/12/18 02:56 PM
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Yes, the general tone is to blame men. I don't get it. It's like saying that someone goes to a store looking for a new pair of jeac, and all they have is shorts and underwear. He leaves buying nothing and . . . it's his fault? All of these types of articles blame men. In fact, you will almost never see any mainstream article which blames women as a group for anything. That's gynocentrism.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/12/18 01:23 PM
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Do even the top 20% "benefit" in this hellhole feminism has created? I don't think so. Guys who spend their 20s and 30s racking up 100+ notch counts seem to end up burned out, alone, and riddled with sexually transmitted diseases. The bottom line is that promiscuity is destructive, even with the availability of birth control. Both physically and emotionally, man (which includes women) is not evolved to have dozens or hundreds of sex partners. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/12/18 01:22 PM
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The trick is to stay in Asia I think.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/12/18 01:18 PM
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You don't want a woman with you who is simply making a concession to reality, but resenting it every minute of the day. Yes, I think this is the bitterest red pill of the all. For most guys, even if they have a "successful" marriage, the wife is never attracted to them sexually. Not while they are dating; not during the honeymoon; never. She is always thinking about Chad. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/12/18 01:17 PM
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The problem arises when even the shy, introverted, and traditional women have a larger body count then yourself. That's when you start to question everything. Yeah girls are pretty good at maintaining this facade of sweetness and innocence when in reality they are banging Chad 6 ways to Sunday or even sugar-dating or hooking. The internet has really facilitated this type of behavior by making it easy to meet people without people in your social circles knowing about it. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/12/18 01:11 PM
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This is surely either trolling or a fetishist sharing his kinky fantasy.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/12/18 01:05 PM
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Well at least she is mostly honest about the situation. Women can't really help the fact that they are programmed to have a dual-mating strategy.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/12/18 11:53 AM
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Okay maybe she wasn't a virgin when they met as she claimed, but there's a good chance she was. Redpillers overestimate the power of "pair bonding" in my opinion. Agreed. As I mentioned up thread, a virgin will be constantly told by her friends, movies, and television that she's missing out by not fucking Chad. I think the key is to keep her barefoot, pregnant, and isolated from these types of influences. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/12/18 11:51 AM
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There is no hope. Don't get married. I wouldn't go that far, but the problem I see with marrying a virgin is that movies, television, and her friends will be constantly whispering to her that she she's missing out on life by not fucking Chad. Realistically, the only way for it to work is for the girl to be in an insulated religious community which frowns on contact with the outside world. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/12/18 11:47 AM
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It's close, but I'm guessing it's fake. What gives the game away for me is the statement that oral sex is a possibility with other men but not with him. Assuming that's true, 99.9% of women would lie and say that oral sex was not something they would do with anyone, all the while happily sucking other guys. If somehow she got caught giving a blowjob (unlikely) she would lie and say she was pressured into it. Women are programmed to tell these sorts of lies to men; in the ancestral environment te…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/12/18 11:44 AM
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Thanks. As a side note, while of course it is true that society prioritizes women over men, it's pretty astonishing how big the disparity is when it comes to peoples' feelings. Of course there is a huge push to discourage conduct that doesn't hurt women in any way except to make them feel bad. e.g. advertisements which feature thin models; cat-calling; scientific studies and observations which cast women in a negative light; etc. At the same time, one can ask what, if anything, does society do t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/12/18 11:31 AM
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The main rule is that she isn't allowed to criticize me or put me down in front of the children.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/12/18 11:24 AM
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Yes, I'm sure it sucks to be in the "fuckzone." In general it sucks to be used by another person, and the two situations are exactly analogous. In the "fuckzone," the man dangles the possibility of commitment to the girl so that he can sex even though he knows he will never actually commit to her. In the "friendzone," the girl dangles the possibility of a sexual relationship so that she can get attention and favors from the man even though she has no intention of ever having a sexual relationshi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/12/18 10:26 PM
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Insult or not, it's counterproductive.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/12/18 10:19 PM
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To me what's annoying about the wood chopping is it suggests that like almost all women, she wants a man who has the traditionally valued male qualities -- strong; taller than her; financially secure; confident; etc. But when men express a preference for traditionally valued female qualities such as youth, fitness, chastity, obedience, etc., almost all women freak out and accuse the man of being some kind of sexist pig.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/12/18 10:12 PM
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I would guess she is some kind of professional dominatrix who is trolling for customers.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/12/18 09:52 PM
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As I said above, I think it's a kind of sexual fetishism. Some people who are into dominance and submission see infidelity as a way of dominating their partner. Some sexually submissive men like the idea of their wife/girlfriend cheating them. I do think most Western women tend to be sympathetic to female adulterers but they tend not to be so blatant about it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/12/18 09:51 PM
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I think this is more fetishism than anything else. Some people who are into domination and submission see infidelity as a way of dominating their partner. To be sure there are many women who have double-standards for cheating, but I think they tend not to be so open about it. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/12/18 09:47 PM
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Yeah it's difficult to decide which gives you a lower opinion of women -- being unsuccessful with them or being successful. Of course, there could be a selection effect here. A lot of guys get into PUA simply because they want a girlfriend and they have no interest in racking up hundreds of notches. But anyway, my sense is that guys like Roosh and Roissy are pretty much damaged and are feeling pretty empty and worthless in life.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/12/18 06:07 PM
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What does it even mean to say that her herpes does or doesn't define her? The most charitable interpretation I can think of is that she is saying that it's just one factor among many that potential boyfriends/husbands should consider in deciding whether they are interested in having a relationship with her. And for some guys, it may be, but for most it's a complete deal-breaker. In effect, her herpes does define her as someone with whom most guys will never want a relationship with regardless of…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/12/18 05:57 PM
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In modern western countries, and even eastern countries sometimes, the second a woman moves in with you or the day after the wedding, the power dynamic changes instantly in her favor almost 100%. Not necessarily. For one thing, if you get the woman pregnant, it reduces her SMV quite a lot. Even though it increases her legal power over you to be the mother of your child, it's often outweighed by the dramatically increased difficulty in finding another man. Also, there are still some communities w…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/12/18 05:49 PM
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Agreed, in order to love a man the woman must look up to him and respect him. Here's a thought experiement: If you are casually dating a girl and one day she undresses and kneels in front of you and hugs your leg and begs you to be her boyfriend, chances are you will be receptive to such a demonstration of submission. On the other hand, if a guy did that with a girl he was seeing, she would be disgusted and turned off. (Unless she is some kind of dominatrix type I suppose.) In general it's just …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/12/18 05:42 PM
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You make a good point, but I think what it comes down to is that shopping around is reasonable until you reach a certain level of commitment. So for example if you go on a few casual dates with someone and it goes no further than a few nice conversations and holding hands while you cross the street together and there is no talk of exclusivity, it doesn't say anything bad about either party if they are also looking for others. Traditionally, the point of no return was marriage. I do agree that if…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/12/18 05:28 PM
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Yes, but even so, feminists would probably treat her as "full time" and compare her to a "full time" man who works 48 hours per week.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/12/18 01:24 PM
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Chad Foo Yung Chadalamarathuan (((Hyman Chadstein))) El Chado Sir Chadwick Thundercock IV ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/12/18 11:28 AM
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She's obviously looking to monkey branch even if she's not fully aware of it. I don't think this is inherently wrong, but the reality of the situation is that (1) the man she met when she was 20 who treats her well is probably the best man she will ever find; and (2) in any relationship the sex cools off after a few years.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/12/18 11:19 AM
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I've run into many young women like this. I think pretty much all young women are constantly looking for a better deal than what they have. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing -- up to the point of marriage it's reasonable for anyone (male or female) to try to find the best spouse they can. The problem is that women have a tendency to ignore the facts that (1) their sexual marketplace value will decrease rapidly and dramatically between ages 20 and 35; and (2) the handsome exciting guy who is in…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/12/18 11:15 AM
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I was reading that these days, instead of simply having the woman sign the prenup in front of witnesses, they have a videotaped "signing ceremony" in which all the important parts of the prenup are explained to the woman and the videotape shows he fully understanding and willingly accepting. Of course this is to prevent people (i.e. women) from later claiming that they were pressured into signing quickly without reading or understanding and that therefore the prenup should not be enforced. A lot…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/12/18 11:00 AM
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Look at her mom. NOT aged well. The mother aged pretty well compared to other women. The fact is that virtually no women look f*ckable after age 50. ​ ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/12/18 02:40 AM
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It's really instructive to sign up for quasi prostitution sites like Seeking Arrangement. Lots of seemingly sweet pretty innocent girls hook on the side while in college.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/12/18 10:49 PM
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She is not fucked at all. She is about a 9/10 unlike your typical POF single mom who is 30+ w multiple children overweight etc. She is like a used Porsche with 50k miles. Not my cup of tea but plenty of buyers. Your typical POF single mom is like a 1985 Dodge Colt with 200k miles. I do agree it's a shame though.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/12/18 10:42 PM
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Yeah I think people expect to much from marriage. But it is especially a problem with women because women are constantly encouraged to think they deserve and can have everything
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/12/18 10:30 PM
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An analogous situation is if a wife found out that her husband and taken his ex-girlfriend on a lot of fancy expensive vacations; bought her expensive jewelry; etc., but didn't do the same thing for his wife -- instead buying her a chintzy ring and occasionally taking her to the Indian casino 2 hour's drive away. Of course she would be resentful about it, and if her husband justified it by saying that his ex-girlfriend was high maintenance and pressured him into spending the money, she would sti…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/12/18 09:49 PM
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Agree, a man shouldn't need any justification for objecting to having a wife who did things in the past which she won't do with him. Why do women prefer men who are taller than them? Because it gives them a nice feeling. In the same way, it gives a man a nice feeling to know that he's getting his wife's best sexual effort. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/12/18 09:44 PM
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Women just get bored Everyone gets bored, that's reality. People have this idea in their heads that great sex is the sine qua non of marriage, but in reality it's more about economic cooperation and producing children.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/12/18 09:20 PM
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These posts convince me modern young women, having been raised their entire lives in a gynocentric society, honestly have zero clue as to what a man looks for in a wife. I think they have a clue, but it's true that our culture is constantly trying to convince everyone that it's noble and great for a man to take responsibility for another man's bastard child. So for example, on television shows, fathers are typically portrayed as bumbling idiots -- unless they are accepting responsibility for ano…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/12/18 09:16 PM
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Yes, guys here are kidding themselves if they think no man will want her. She's about a 9/10; has only one child; and is young enough to crank out a few more. There are plenty of people willing to plunk down $40 or $50k for a used Porshe with 50k miles on it if the new model is $100k.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/12/18 09:03 PM
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She's good looking enough that she will get plenty of bail out proposals. At my old job there was a smoking hot 25 year old with a bastard toddler and she ended up marrying a pretty successful guy.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/12/18 08:58 PM
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FWIW I am a short guy and I don't object if a girl insists on dating a tall guy so long as she has respect for guy's preferences.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/12/18 05:03 PM
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Being bipolar doesn't make me a shit or unworthy person. It depends on what you mean by "shit or unworthy." Look at it this way: If you have bipolar, life insurance companies will charge you substantially higher premiums. Are they judging you to be a "shit person" in some cosmic, moral sense? Not really, they are just going by their cold hard actuarial statistics which show that bipolar people have significantly shorter life expectancies. In the same way, I would advise any man to avoid getting …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/12/18 01:42 PM
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Men also have instincts, how come they suppress them? In large part, it's because the traditional checks on male misbehavior are still in place and in fact have been enhanced due to feminism and gynocentrism. For example the instinct many men have to impregnate a woman and then abandon her: Unpaid child support is the only debt which will get your passport revoked; your professional licenses suspended; and your ass thrown in jail. If a man dumps his middle aged wife for some young hottie, you ca…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/12/18 10:53 AM
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It's /r/offmychest Have you seen that sub and who moderates it? No, but it's not necessary. Except for explicitly red pill subs, everything else is pure gynocentrism. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/12/18 10:46 AM
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It's pretty unusual to meet a woman who has the same goals, desires, and motives as her man. The woman's genes are screaming at her to monkey-branch; to fuck Chad behind her husband's back; to extract as much resources as possible from her husband and then cast him aside. There may exist a few rare women who are able to suppress these urges, but for the most part what's necessary is the exercise of authority over women to keep them in line. Usually a combination of direct authority from her husb…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/12/18 10:21 AM
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why should I want men to dominate women? There is a simple answer to this question: Women are children. Imagine a situation where parents cannot exercise authority over their children. The children will act destructively, make life miserable for their parents, and ultimately be less happy themselves -- nobody is better off. Everybody benefits (men, women, and society at large) if women are under the loving control of men. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/12/18 10:09 AM
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Yes, it's not a coincidence that feminists have been setting the stage for laws making it "domestic abuse" for a husband to withhold money from his wife. If you search on phrases like "financial abuse" or "economic abuse" you can see it. And of course the game plan is obvious: They want to cut off every possible avenue by which a man can exert power in a relationship. In my case, I have been married more than 20 years and have found withholding money to be a very effective way to exert authority…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/12/18 10:03 AM
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There are plenty of guys who are perfectly happy to wait. Heck, a lot of guys prefer to wait. But I can pretty much guarantee you they are not hawt enough for her. And the thing is, she's probably not even aware just how obsessed she is with men's physical appearance. Men who are not in the top 10% of appearance probably don't even register with her. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/12/18 11:42 PM
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I call bullshit Agreed, one line that gives the game away is this: If I'm not agreeing to sex during the first few conversations (no matter how much we seem to have in common) I'm automatically cast aside. Billy Beta absolutely positively doesn't make demands like this.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/12/18 11:40 PM
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Since they had no men in their villages because they had all been wiped out, most ended up willingly going back to another group from the faction that had taken them to begin with. Fucking hilarious. Yes, one of the dirty little secrets about Stockhom Syndrome (the tendency of people who are kidnapped to shift allegiance to their kidnappers) is that it primarily affects girls and women. This fact is not publicized much because it makes women look bad, but it's true and it's probably a result of …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/12/18 11:32 PM
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> I feel that one day soon a great conflict will come and tear apart western society and women like this will be the first casualties of war . If there were some big breakdown, she would be claimed by a warlord and she would be on her knees sucking him and loving every minute of it. That's just women's nature. I'm fond of telling people that the most genetically successful woman of the past 2000 years was Genghis Khan's mother. She was kidnapped and taken as a war bribe by some chieftain and imp…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/12/18 11:29 PM
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Time to call an old friend to help us control the herd, Peter Archy! Yes, fortunately it's a self-correcting problem. There are a few patriarchical subcultures in the U.S. -- Amish; Orthodox Jews; Fundamentalist Christians; etc. Their numbers are growing rapidly. In a few generations, THOTs and feminists won't be able to play their games any more because they will have been bred out of existence. Good riddance. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/12/18 11:09 PM
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Someone needs to do research to see what percentage of these "dead bedrooms" (i.e. the wife has no interest in sex with her husband) comes from situations like this. I would guess that the breakdown is as follows: 25-30% - wife doesn't want sex with her husband because he can't compare to all the Chads she fucked in her 20s. 35-40% - wife doesn't want sex with her husband because he can't compare to all the Chads she sees on television, movies, romance novels, and regular life. 30-40% - wife doe…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/12/18 11:02 PM
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For what it may be worth, I met my wife when I was 24 and she was 27. I agree that's not ideal but she checked all the other boxes so what the heck. The big advantage to doing this is I got a marriage-minded girl and had kids relatively young. My youngest child recently turned 18; I am in decent health still and free to live my life. The disadvantage (which I didn't anticipate) is that a 27-year-old is almost twice as close to the wall as a 21-year-old. My wife did a pretty good job of taking ca…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/12/18 10:55 PM
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How was this upvoted so highly? Probably for the same reason Titanic was so popular. Women love love love stories that involve men sacrificing themselves for women. ​ ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/12/18 10:12 PM
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She doesn’t want a ceremony. What woman doesn’t want a wedding?!? Lmao, too embarrassed of his looks to showcase to the world? You know something, insisting on eloping is probably a good idea for guys who are inclined to get married.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/12/18 10:10 PM
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Am I calling them animals? Well, are they doing anything to prove me wrong? Of course, we are all animals. The thing is, men have destructive instincts just like girls do. The difference is that our society still enforces norms meant to keep men in check but is slowly removing all norms which serve to keep women in check. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/12/18 10:08 PM
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I don't know about other guys here but I don't have much interest in playing the role of Chad. Of course I am not a 9 or 10/10 anyway, but I am decent enough looking that I could have pulled a Roosh and spent 20 or 30 years chasing meaningless sex with girls in their 20s, spreading around STDs, and not accomplishing anything else. But to me that's pretty unappealing. One issue that gets short shrift is that promiscuity is not just bad for girls, it's bad for guys too. Not AS bad, but it's still …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/12/18 10:06 PM
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Hehe maybe she will have one of those ceremonies where women reclaim their virginity ! ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/12/18 10:01 PM
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I wonder if he'll still feel lucky when she cheats on him.....multiple times.......while denying him sex at every turn. And blaming it all on him.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/12/18 09:31 PM
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This has got to be parody/trolling.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/12/18 06:34 PM
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Yeah, I have met a few girls like this over the years. When they drink they turn into complete sluts. I think is the reason for a lot of the false rape accusations that are made. For the woman, it's mentally challenging to be presented with evidence that she slutted out and the way she reduces her cognitive dissonance is to convince herself that she was raped. Classic regret-rape. There was a video which came out a few years ago of a college coed who got intimate with a guy right out on the stre…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/12/18 12:15 PM
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Seems pretty awesome to me. I got loads of money I earned and saved, I have a great physique from lifting and diet, and there's all you can eat sushi. Oh, and no dependents. That's awesome from an individual point of view, but from a societal point of view, it is literally the path to extinction. Besides, a lot of guys want to have children and a somewhat traditional family life. Which is tricky in modern society -- in order to accomplish this you generally need to get a woman on board.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/12/18 12:00 PM
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What's good about "come with a family" Nothing at all, I think /u/Gmann14 was making fun of the idea. "Ready made family" is one of those memes which is used to sucker Beta Billy into playing the role of Captain Save-a-Hoe.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/12/18 11:55 AM
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I doubt she's a bona fide pre-med. See my post above.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/12/18 05:29 AM
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As a side note, it's extremely common for girls to claim that they are pre-meds even though realistically they have zero chance of getting into medical school. I think they do it because (1) if they take a few premed classes they will come into contact with men who are future doctors; and (2) it's a good smokescreen for gold-digging. Personally, I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with girls who seek out men with money. Even a nice family-oriented girl may want the best opportunities…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/12/18 05:28 AM
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One has to wonder about the complete lack of logic here. I think it's more a lack of self-awareness. This is an extreme example, but it's very very common for women to send out sexual signals without really being aware of it and then reacting negatively when men respond to those sexual signals. For example, a girl who wears an extremely short skirt and gets annoyed when a guy (who is not Chad) ogles her. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/12/18 05:17 AM
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I think there are two reasons not to do this. Most importantly, if you state your preferences up front girls will be incentivized to lie to you. If you say that you don't want girls with a promiscuous past, sluts will still message you but they will be less up front about their history. Second, it's rarely a good idea to get girls angry at you unnecessarily. One of the things that angers girls most is when they are sexually rejected over some perceived shortcoming. Angry girls will often look fo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 09:02 PM
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Also, I don't believe she is as intelligent as she claims to be Yeah my experience with these types of women has been that they almost always think they are a lot smarter than they really are. Part of the problem is that for most of their adult lives, men have pretended that what these women are saying is interesting as a way of getting into their panties. Also, most of them studied under Leftist professors who taught them that women are just as smart as men and that any disparities are the resu…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 08:46 PM
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. I am telling you LJBF because I want you to go away and leave me alone. I disagree with this, I think what she is saying is this: "I am telling you LJBF because I think there may be some value to extract from you if I can pull you into my orbit" ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 08:24 PM
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Women always, always, ALWAYS sugarcoat their stories Yes, when a man talks about a failed relationship, he will often admit to some kind of wrongdoing, I have never once heard a woman admit to any wrongdoing when discussing a failed relationship. Not in real life anyway. Occasionally you see it on Reddit but that's usual a tell that it's a fake post. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 08:15 PM
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What she's offering is nothing special. Sadly, you are wrong here. It's extremely rare for a woman these days to want to spend her most fertile years bearing children. Even putting aside the THOTs, your typical nice, family-oriented girl won't even start thinking about marriage until she's 25-27. Which makes the window a bit tight for having 3 or 4 healthy children. See, even girls who don't ride the CC tend to spend their early to mid 20s focusing on education and career, pretending that they a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 08:05 PM
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Agreed, I think a lot of the guys here are underestimating the value of a girl who wants to spend her most fertile years bearing children as a devoted wife. That's extremely rare these days outside of various ultra-religious sects. I myself am a very successful middle aged man (I make well over $500k per year). I am married but if I were single I would 100% go for a girl like this. I don't even need a virgin, I would be happy with n<5. I also think that the risk of divorce rape in a situation li…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 07:49 PM
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In America, "mixed race" usually means a black woman who doesn't want to get automatically screened out on dating site searches. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 07:31 PM
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No man wants a girl that only wants them after the finish line. I disagree, if you are a successful middle aged man who is single, that's pretty much your only chance at a girlfriend/wife who can give you children. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 07:29 PM
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lol I’m a medical student studying to be a surgeon. I wouldn’t touch a bitch like this with a ten foot pole. What if she gets unhaaaaaaaapy and reneges on her side of the relationship? Would you marry any girl at all? And if so, at what point would you tell her that you are studying to be a surgeon? Because 99.9% of women (even the rare old-school girls) are far more likely to accept a marriage proposal if it's coming from a surgeon-to-be. A nice family-oriented girl knows that it's expensive to…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 07:25 PM
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It's funny how these articles invariably have stock photos of very attractive women. Do an image search on the article's author and you will see she's an overweight post-wall hag. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 06:20 PM
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I think the removed it because it started gaining traction in the manosphere for the wrong reasons, not for it's success in getting men to spend money in the site. Yes, I think at the time they didn't fully appreciate just how bad it makes women look as a group. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 05:41 PM
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This is fake fake fake. When a woman asks to open up a relationship, 99% of the time she is already cheating. If her boyfriend is the kind of Chad who could get 400 matches on Tinder, she would know the consequences in advance of an open relationship. Last, she says " Looking back I realize this was a mistake" Women almost NEVER cop to mistakes like this, especially without spinning things to assign blame to the man. A real woman might have said something like "I now realize it was a mistake to …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 05:27 PM
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I think the story is fake. It's too perfect. The only thing missing is him dumping her in front of a big room of people followed by one of those slow-clapping scenes which turns into a chreshendo of thunderous applause. To be sure, it does happen all the time that THOTs try to hide their sexual history from potential beta providers. ​ ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 05:19 PM
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The past matters. The past is prologue. A woman's past sexual history matters. Who she let into her vagina says a lot about her. Agree, but I think there are a couple other issues in play. For one thing, sexual encounters change who the woman is as a person. Even putting aside issues like STDs, a woman who has had lots of sex with lots of different guys just isn't going to be as excited about sex with her husband, i.e. the Alpha Widow problem. But perhaps most importantly, we men are entitled to…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 05:10 PM
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Single moms are the dreck of womanhood. They are pretty bad to be sure, but I think feminists are worse since they are the ones pushing for the policy and social changes that force the societal costs of single motherhood onto men.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 04:35 PM
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You know, one of the dirty little secrets of the modern economy is that the vast majority of "women-owned corporations" are actually owned by men; the woman is just there as window dressing and to help get diversity contracts. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 04:26 PM
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Just wandering by, but in what logical way can you discern that he must be an incel based off a reply not at all mentioning his sexual history or lack thereof? That's the go-to response of women who are called out by a man on their manipulative hypergamous behavior -- to accuse the man of being sexually unattractive.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 04:18 PM
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Yeah, her story doesn't ring true. The government is far more aggressive about collecting child support than it is about collecting taxes, student loans, or any other debt. If she's not collecting child support, it's almost certainly because she got knocked up by someone who could have been recognized as obviously a complete loser within 60 seconds of meeting him. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that this "amazing man" just happens to have a steady job, a house, a car, and very little de…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 04:14 PM
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Unless you are Chad, the same is true with any woman.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 03:59 PM
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And if they have jobs, they usually have terrible attendance and work ethic.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 03:58 PM
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There's this thing called "life insurance" which is very inexpensive and will ensure that if your husband gets hit by a bus, you won't have to troll for beta schlubs. And yes, there are plenty of guys who will date a widow in her 30s with a child; often they are divorced guys in their 40s and 50s who already have children. See, the problem isn't that these girls are looking for boyfriends/husbands, the problem is that they are looking to cynically take advantage of men whom they are not actually…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 03:54 PM
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Yeah, even if the woman is not a single mom, if you are a man with means chances are that's the reason she is interested in you. Most women find 80-90% of men to be sexually unattractive. If a woman gets with you because you're rich, her instincts will be screaming at her to cheat on you.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 03:40 PM
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Yeah, for a few hundred dollars you could hire a pretty model to give you some racy pics and sign a release. Heck you could bring her in on the scam -- just have her parrot some conservative commentators in her bra & panties.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 03:18 PM
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I certainly don't blame those in the latter camp for dating younger, since they saw firsthand that women their own age rejected them previously. So what reason would there be for them to go after the same women that rejected them previously? I think it's more that everyone who is looking for a husband/wife tries to get the highest SMV person they can. And all things being equal, a girl who is 25 has a much higher SMV than a girl who is 32. The 25-year-old has 3 times as much time left in her fer…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 12:21 PM
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Yes. We call that beta orbiting. Almost certainly she was consciously or subconsciously throwing these guys breadcrumbs, i.e. vague, ambiguous, and deniable signals that she might be interested in them sexually. Becoming a successful businessman has really opened my eyes to this sort of behavior. If a woman thinks that a man has something she wants, it's extremely common for her say and do things which make the man think she may be interested in him sexually. In fact, as a side note, probably a …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 10:21 AM
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One user here a few months back recommended giving a female friend a simple test. She's your friend? Okay, ask her for the sort of favor a you'd ask a guy friend for. You need 100 bucks until next payday or a ride to the airport or whatever. There's a 99% chance she'll make an excuse. I think deep down even beta simps are aware women aren't really their friends and thus don't ever ask them for anything. ​ Agreed, I've had only 2 or 3 actual female friends in my entire life. It's astonishingly ra…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 09:54 AM
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While I’m sure it has always existed in some form or other, it was relatively recently that it became a matter of “nice guys” trying to bribe women with favors and attention in the hope that those women would see fit to consider them a potential suitor. My theory on this is that for much of history, girls didn't make their own sexual decisions -- that decision was made by her father. If a father sees that a nice young man seems to really care for his daughter, he's more likely to give that man h…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 09:41 AM
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Just wear a condom :)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 09:27 AM
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It's called sexual selection. Women are giving their future children the best chances of survival by only having sex with the best male specimens available. This means that the tallest, most popular, strongest, most caring, highest status men get the bulk of female desire, and everyone else fights for the scraps. You can blame biology and evolution for that. That's all well and good, but consider typical male behaviors which are the result of evolution: Pursuing women who are in the 18-25 age ra…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 09:24 AM
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Women are not on some different level than men when it comes to partner selection, as both men and women place importance on physical characteristics. I think that women are actually more obsessed with physical appearance than men. While it's true that women also care about things like money and status, women's general pickiness and hypergamy results in them being a good deal more picky than men when it comes to looks. For the most part, average-looking guys will perceive average-looking girls a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 08:59 AM
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People like what they like, even if it offends some people True, what annoys me is the double-standard. If a man expresses in his dating profile (or anywhere) that he doesn't want to date a feminist, he is inevitably condemned for it. And heaven forbid that a man in his 40s would prefer to date a woman in her 20s, such a man is derided as some kind of pedophilic monster. But why should that be? After all, these are just preferences. And they are also pretty reasonable -- the guy might know from …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 08:49 AM
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I'm a bit skeptical about this one. It's unusual for women to openly and publicly admit how obsessed they are with men's looks. Usually they will say something like "I wasn't feeling any chemistry" or some such.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 08:34 AM
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is it because what's many of us find important in women is a minority opinion in men or because it doesn't fit their narrative to blame men for the situation? It's just another aspect of gynocentrism IMO. The unwritten rule is that you minimize facts that put women as a group in a negative light. Another unwritten rule is that women's needs and desires take priority over those of men. That's why there's lots of articles and studies lamenting the supposed shortage of "marriageable" or "suitable" …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 08:17 AM
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Regardless, dating older guys is okay for girls, yet dating younger girls is wrong for guys. There's the feminist duality for the day. Well basically the general rule is that (1) it's ok for women to indulge their desires; pursue their interests; and follow their impulses; (2) it's not ok for men to pursue their interests or desires, men must pursue women's interests, whims, and desires. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 12:28 AM
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Besides, it's not a complete disaster if you marry and have children young and find yourself later. I'm in my 40s, my youngest child recently turned 18, I'm in decent health, and free to live the rest of my life. I think all of this "finding yourself" stuff is just a rationalization for spending one's 20s sucking off Chad. ​ ​ ​ ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 12:23 AM
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When that 30+ woman whines that she should be seen as just a valid choice for childbearing as the 20 year old, she is flat out fucking lying to our faces and that is infuriating Yes, the male preference for a woman who is fertile, healthy (not obese), and childless is defensible not only because everyone is entitled to their preferences but also because there are legitimate biological reasons for it. Meanwhile, the female preference for a man who is 6'+ with a chiseled jaw and in the top 20% of …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 11:46 PM
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Probably you will be okay, but there are some significant risks. Every man must decide for himself if those risks are worth taking. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 10:38 PM
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Even "conservative" religious groups these days have absorbed and internalized the (anti-conservative, anti-religious) values of Leftism, and of feminism in particular. Just read Dalrock and you'll see how pathetically bluepill most religious "conservatives" are. That's true to an extent, but there still exist bona fide conservative religious groups. The litmus test is whether they let women serve in positions of leadership. There do exist churches in which women are ineligible to be pastors; sy…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 10:33 PM
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At a minimum, the woman will inevitably put the children first. Which can be a bit annoying even if they are your own children, but if it's someone else's children that would be intolerable. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 08:49 PM
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Yea you do that and the woman will twist the story and say how much of an asshole you were. She will then frame it that you assumed she was pregnant based on her photos and the fact that you never asked made it seem you were cool with it. Yes, that's how you know when one of these stories is fake red-pill bait. If the woman accepts any responsibility for anything or admits that she is at fault, there is a very good chance it's a man pretending to be a girl. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 08:46 PM
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If it were me, I would have bailed on the date literally right after she told me this and blocked her on everything. Women like this deserve no respect whatsoever and I wouldn't give her the time of day. Yeah, it should kind of go without saying that being pregnant is one of those material facts which should be disclosed up front. The equivalent would be if a man showed up on a date and mentioned for the first time that he is married. In that case, his date would be justified in ending things im…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 08:44 PM
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Yeah, I am in my 40s and married but if my wife ended things I wouldn't date women over 30. Which probably means I would be a de facto MGTOW Monk, but there it is. Part of the problem is that a woman in her 30s has very little time left before she becomes sexually undesirable. Even if you marry the girl when she is 25, it's likely that she will be unf*ckable for the majority of years you are married. And society is so fucked up, if a man over 30 tries to get with a woman who is around 18, 19, 20…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 08:35 PM
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What shocks me is that the man felt bad about it If you watch much television, you will notice that fathers are normally portrayed as stupid bumbling oafs, but there is an exception: A man who takes on the role of father to bastard children is always portrayed sympathetically. The same is true in movies. Basically our gynocentric culture is constantly urging men to accept the job of Captain Save-a-Ho. To sacrifice his own interests for those of women. I think that's a big part of the reason the …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 08:18 PM
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"ready" = n > 100 ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 07:48 PM
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Yes, quite possibly the most genetically successful woman in history was Genghis Khan's mother. She was kidnapped and taken as a war bride in her youth, became the favorite wife of her kidnapper, and the rest is history. ​ ​ ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 07:43 PM
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Yeah, the two words that make me cringe are "tired" and "ready." "tired" + "ready" means n > 100. ​ ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 07:19 PM
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Lol, I think the male equivalent is the "player" who dangles the possibility of a committed relationship while using the girl for sex when he needs it. And there are guys who do that, but the difference is that pretty much everyone acknowledges that those guys are jerks and society has sympathy for the girls they take advantage of. Meanwhile, society at large thinks it's perfectly fine for a woman to take friend zone a guy, accept favors from him, use him for emotional support, and send the occa…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 07:12 PM
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Ghosting solves this problem. It's difficult, of course, as one is attracted and still holds out some irrational hope that it will be reciprocated. Yeah, probably in the ancestral environment there was a decent chance that Chad would get gored by a saber-toothed tiger and die and then your crush would have no choice but to get on her knees in front of you and suck. But I agree that nowadays you are better off cutting all ties.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 06:42 PM
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Once you realize that you're a desirable man in terms of looks and status, you quickly figure out that no matter what you do, panties are going to drop so why bother being nice? It's not just that, it's also that if you are a sought-after man, you have so many girls sending you messages, there just isn't the time to invest much energy in them.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 06:34 PM
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Yeah, in your typical "just friends" situation, there is no actual friendship. An actual friend drops everything and helps you out when you are in a jam. An actual friend makes time to see you and honors arrangements even if something else comes up. In a "just friends" situation, the girl will call you to chat when she is bored or lonely, but if something more interesting comes up, she's gone. She's happy to accept favors and emotional support from you, but she won't give anything in return.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 06:33 PM
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He's just as blameless for his feelings as she is for her lack of feelings. True, but usually in those situations the woman does one or more of the following: Breadcrumbing, i.e. occasionally sending the guy weak, ambiguous romantic/sexual signals as a way of feeding his hope and keeping him around; Asking for and accepting favors from the guy even though she knows he's doing it in hopes of winning her heart and also knows he has no chance. Refusing to help the guy out when he himself is in a ja…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 06:26 PM
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Yeah, it's pretty unusual to meet a woman who is a solid and interesting enough person that I would want to be platonic friends with her. Besides, in your typical friend-zone situation, the relationship is pretty one-sided. The man and the woman hang out only when she is bored or has nothing better to do -- meanwhile, the man is dropping his plans to be with her. If she needs to be picked up; or needs help moving her apartment; or anything like that, then of course he is there. But if he's ever …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 06:18 PM
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> You are probably not going to agree with all of those decisions. Probably not. The way this started was that I took advantage of a meta-thread to express my preference that these types of posts be excluded. I was met with skepticism which is why I took it upon myself to politely explain why code-phrases like "(((they)))" are anti-Semitic. Truth be told, I have no idea whether expressing these sorts of ideas is against the rules of this sub. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 06:10 PM
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Having said that, it is an inescapable fact that Jews are prominently figured in east coast law and politics, the entertainment industry, and in media and news. This is 100% true. But when people make factual statements, the context and exact words often carry more meaning under the surface. When someone says that "Black lives matter," what they are saying is literally true, but under the surface is the claim that police departments are biased against and brutal towards blacks. Which may or may …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 06:05 PM
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> “(((They))) control the media,” is not a slur. I disagree, depending of course on how you define "slurs." Context matters. When a feminist holds up a sign which says "men rape," it may be literally true but by focusing exclusively on male behavior she is revealing her misandry. Besides, it's not literally true that Jews control the media. > Say what you mean and don’t hide it. Anti-Semites prefer to use dog whistles. Presumably most guys who come in here are looking to laugh a bit and vent abo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 05:28 PM
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> No. I never heard of triple parentheses being antisemitic. They are 100%. Here is a quote from a discussion on this subreddit: > People laugh at me when I say (((they))) control the media. What the person is saying is that Jewish people control the media. That's what he is saying, guaranteed. (((they))) is a code-phrase for "Jewish people," Google triple-parenthesis if you don't believe me. ​ ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 03:13 PM
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Single moms can be great for flings. I'm older than most on here so I'm used to dealing with them. Probably, but I would be scared of getting involved in someone who is desperate for money and has the infinite power of the State behind them if there is any dispute or problem. It would be like dating a mafia princess. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 03:09 PM
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Garden variety trad-thot here. Acts like a slut but purports to be conservative, usually both politically and sexually. Yes, when it comes to politics women almost never think independently; they simply adopt whatever politics are convenient and believe in them fervently.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 03:04 PM
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They really don’t understand how stunningly offensive this is to any man with even a shred of self respect, do they? Why would they? Outside of the manosphere, the unwritten rule is that you don't criticize a hoe for hoeing. You don't tell a girl that she's being unreasonable by asking for men to sacrifice for her. ​ ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 02:59 PM
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I think it's pretty obvious that she swipes on only the most handsome men and has zero sexual interest in men who are in the bottom 80-90% of looks. Here's from another article: I know pretty much immediately if a guy isn’t it. Maybe it’s not reasonable, but if there’s no initial chemistry, I just can’t. I’ve gone on dates where I kept giving it a chance, but if there wasn’t anything vibing in the beginning, it’s not like it magically developed. I’ve agreed to second dates to see if it would eve…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 02:55 PM
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Is anyone here experienced enough to decipher the coded meaning behind this I think what it means is that the man doesn't put as much energy into the relationship as the woman would like. He doesn't buy her flowers on Valentine's day; he doesn't respond quickly to her text messages; he forgets her birthday; etc. The woman's reasoning is that (1) when the man neglects her like this it makes her feel bad; (2) an emotionally mature person would be aware of it and therefore pay more attention to her…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 02:47 PM
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In another one of her essays, I found this: ____________ I know pretty much immediately if a guy isn’t it. Maybe it’s not reasonable, but if there’s no initial chemistry, I just can’t. I’ve gone on dates where I kept giving it a chance, but if there wasn’t anything vibing in the beginning, it’s not like it magically developed. I’ve tried going on dates with guys I’m not into and it always goes horribly. I think, well, maybe give it a chance. He’s really nice to me, he really likes me, or despite…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 02:38 PM
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Unfortunately 99% of modern women won't agree to this because they are complete idiots. I think it's because they are spoiled children who won't agree to anything which disadvantages them in any way. Of course the solution to the condundrum is to stop worrying about whether women "agree" to anything. Society should simply impose a reasonable deal upon them and they will be perfectly fine with it. By analogy, effective parents don't try to negotiate with a child who is being unreasonable, they si…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 02:13 PM
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90% of self-described feminists want a man with all the traditionally valued male qualities: Tall, ambitious, financially successful, decisive, willing to pay for stuff, etc. These same feminists think it's oppressive and sexist for men to want or expect a woman to have traditionally valued female qualities like being sweet, chaste, supportive, young, and thin. Because of course feminism is just a smokescreen for women's childish and narcisstic desire to get as much as possible from men while gi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 02:09 PM
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The level of stupidity is astounding - females should have to pass a basic IQ test when they turn 16, or be remanded to a compulsory retard center, they obviously cannot manage their own lives Even the smarter ones are generally too childish and emotional to manage their own lives intelligently. There are plenty of women featured on this sub who go to college and grad school (riding the cock carousel the whole way) and end up in their mid 30s perplexed at why they are having difficulty finding a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 01:58 PM
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Anyway, she probably does like (Chad's?) dick quite a bit, this is just a negotiating ploy.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 01:44 PM
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t’s the most basic rule for being a woman these days FTFY Since the dawn of recorded history, women have traded sexual access for provisioning from men. At this point, it's probably coded into their genes. And everyone subconsciously knows that the main thing women have to offer in life is access to their vaginas. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 01:38 PM
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Honest question. How do you feel about your marriage? If you had to do it all over again would you? It's ok, my main objection is that my wife constantly tells our daughters to put career and education first in their lives. I really wanted to have children but if I end up with no grandchildren, all the sacrifices of marriage were kind of pointless. Fortunately my older daughter went to university and immediately met a nice boy from a conservative family; they have been dating exclusively for a w…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 01:29 PM
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I would like to ask her "why do you feel so entitled to men's commitment?" ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 11:36 AM
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NiceGirl Yeah, it's very much analogous to men who get friend-zoned. I would like to ask her "why do you feel so entitled to men's commitment?" But I can think of one difference: It seems that this guy didn't dangle the possibility of a committed relationship in order to use her for sex. They met on Tinder, after all. By contrast, in your typical Nice Guy situation, the girl intermittently sends signals which make the guy in the friend-zone think he has a chance with her. She will occasionally g…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 11:36 AM
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Whatever she has to say, a man can and has said it more eloquently. Yeah, a common pattern is for a woman to come in to a traditionally male space and suddenly get showered in attention and accolades, far more so than men who are more insightful and articulate. "upvoted because girl" is a real thing, and it's really annoying. I think part of the problem is that men are programmed to seek and value female attention and approval. Obviously men who post in the manosphere should know better, but it'…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 11:16 AM
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Here's another comment from this board (which I have reported) Just a cohencidence "Cohen" is a very common Jewish name.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 10:41 AM
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Here is a comment from a recent thread: > People laugh at me when I say (((they))) control the media. This is coded way of saying that Jews control the media. Here is a comment that was made in response: > I know what ((())) means and I agree From Wikipedia: > Triple parentheses or triple brackets, also known as an (((echo))), are an antisemitic symbol that has been used to highlight the names of individuals of a Jewish background, or organizations who are thought to be owned by Jewish people ​ …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 10:37 AM
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Yeah, I made that point up-thread. There are plenty of guys out there who would be happy to follow up with her and try to have a long-term relationship. However those men are not 6' with chiseled jaws. Probably when this girl encounters such men, they are literally invisible to her in the sense that she gives almost zero conscious thought. They aren't perceived as sexual beings.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 10:22 AM
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It is ridiculous. It's called marriage if you want all that. Except that in marriage, there are expectations placed on the woman. She doesn't want any responsibility or obligation herself, that's for guys. ​ ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 10:16 AM
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The joke of it all is that there are plenty of guys who would be happy to follow all of these rules in order to get into this girl's panties. But none of them is Chad. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 10:14 AM
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it's also funny that she isn't in the business target demographic cause no guys are looking for ladies her age. Well I think that there are plenty of guys looking for her but not the most desirable guys. The dating service charges customers thousands of dollars and wealthy male customers will be annoyed and disappointed if they get matched with some obese post-wall hag.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 10:02 AM
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If when i was a young man i had a decent woman be honest, respectful and loyal to me who was a virgin and saved herself until we got married I would still be with that woman today and 10 years from now. Yeah, women think it's such a horrible sexist imposition on them that men prefer them to have traditionally valued female qualities such as being chaste, fit, supportive, and agreeable. Almost inevitably these same women openly demand men who exhibit traditionally valued male qualities such as be…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 09:52 AM
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The most common one is the triple-parentheses. And I definitely saw it on this board. Do you know what I am talking about?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 09:25 AM
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Motivations matter, and 99 times out of 100 when a woman posts on a sub like this she has the wrong motivations.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 03:48 AM
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She won't age well. She would look 40 in her 20's I wouldn't go that far, but I agree that her bone structure isn't that great. She looks cute because of her youthful appearance but that won't last.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 03:45 AM
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Yeah I am a financially successful middle aged guy and I regularly get friend requests on Facebook from random single moms in their 30s and 40s. A lot of them seem pretty nice and were probably pretty attractive in their day. Sometimes I feel like asking them why they didn't message me 15 or 20 years ago but I don't bother. For the most part women are completely obvlivious to their hypergamy and dual-strategy mating instinct. ​ I am actually a married guy and one thing I have learned (which is o…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 03:42 AM
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It will happen when men stop letting women spend their money. There a lot of ways in which men -- as a group -- could stand up to women and end the gynocentric nightmare. Unfortunately, that's unlikely to happen since (1) men are divided into factions; and (2) the vast majority of men strongly crave female validation and approval. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 03:29 AM
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Is it helpful to understand women's nature in order to better seduce them; to fuck dozens or hundreds of sluts; to value yourself based your ability to convince women to have sex with you?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 03:24 AM
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I hope you keep out the neo-nazis other Jew-haters. I like this subreddit but I've noticed a few people trying to slip in anti-Semitic code phrases. Which is hardly a surprise as they try to invade and coopt every discussion venue which doesn't toe the PC line. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 03:16 AM
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Thanks, having thought about it also seems to me there's an agenda at play here. On television, fathers are almost inevitably portrayed as bumbling oafs. One big exception to this rule is when the man is playing the role of Captain Save-a-Ho and stepping in to help raise Chad or Tyrone's spawn. Then and only then he's portrayed sympathetically. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/18 03:10 AM
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I literally could not get en erection even knowing this was in the same building I was. What the actual fuck?!? Same here, but there are some really thirsty dudes out there. Look at it this way: How many times have you seen a woman like that pregnant? I see it all the time, and I doubt girls like that can afford artificial insemination. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/18 11:50 PM
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Personally I find it nearly as repugnant as male homosexuality. I am attracted to neither. I like the fantasy of two feminine women going at it, but the reality of female homosexuality is pretty repulsive.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/18 11:40 PM
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Notice that 3 out of her 5 must-have requirements are all qualities that are valued in men by traditional standards -- tall; smart; ambitious. I wonder how she feels about men who look for women who satisfy traditional female standards -- young, thin, agreeable, etc. Probably she thinks they are sexist pigs. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/18 11:36 PM
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It's utterly ridiculous. The part where she ridicules the 300lb guys hitting on her really rustled my jimmies. Yeah, she still thinks she some prize for Chad.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/18 11:31 PM
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everything about her is repelling, her voice, her ego, her weight. Agreed, but the joke of it all is that even with all her negatives, she could find a decent husband if she relaxed her standards a bit and stopped holding out for Chad.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/18 11:29 PM
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I don't know about other guys here, but when I hear a woman openly and publicly proclaim that she loves sex, I see it as a negative not a positive. Because I think it means she has a high notch-count. There is a difference between loving to have sex and proclaiming it to the world.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/18 11:24 PM
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Yes, there probably should be a new tag - Dr. Carol, PhD. It seems to be a pretty common pattern: 1.Dr. Carol, PhD typically spends her 20s pursuing education/career and thinks it makes her more desirable. Inevitably Carol thinks she's a lot smarter than she really is. This is due to (1) men pretending that what she is saying is interesting in order to get into her panties; and (2) her Leftist professors telling her that she's just as smart and capable as any man and any failures on her part are…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/18 11:01 PM
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I think it's more than that. For a woman to love a man, she needs to respect him. If he lets her cuckold him, she will lose respect and therefore interest in the man.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/18 09:45 PM
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Yes, 9 times out of 10, "mansplaining" means presenting a logical argument that feminists dislike.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/18 09:37 PM
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This article is silent on a number of issues Of course, one of the unwritten rules is that Women are Wonderful and can't ever be shown in a negative light. I would guess one of the biggest reasons for the marriage decline is the rise in single motherhood. Nobody wants to marry a woman with bastard children. But these facts are unprintable. Surely another big factor is women who spend their 20s focusing on education, career, and Chad. Men are understandably reluctant to marry a woman who is close…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/18 09:33 PM
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Based on the increase in single motherhood rates alone, it's indisputable that American women are becoming less marriageable. And yet no mainstream publication would dare to have a headline stating that American women are becoming less marriageable. I hate the fact that society is so dismissive and contemptuous of the legitimate male preference for a wife who is childless, fertile, and without a history of promiscuity. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/18 09:25 PM
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Thank you for taking the time to break that down. Do you happen to know when society took this turn? Or has the focus is always been on women? I think that societies have always been gynocentric, for example punishing women less severely for similar crimes. There are a couple reasons for this: Most importantly, due to the mechanics of reproduction, men are more expendable than women. If an ancient society were to lose half its men, the remaining men could take up the reproductive slack; if an an…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/18 09:17 PM
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God that Jesse guy was the biggest beta loser I've ever seen. What a fuxking cuckold It's a reality show so it's probably fake. I would guess Jesse is just an aspiring actor who is looking for some exposure. > She is 29 yet looks in her mind 30s. I would guess she is lying about her age. People who lie about their age very frequently pick a number that ends in 9. ​ ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/18 07:41 PM
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How the fuck is this not talked about more? Western society is gynocentric, i.e. the well-being, desires, and needs of women are prioritized over those of men. Once you open your eyes to it, you see it everywhere. For example, traditionally male-on-female crimes such as rape or wife-beating are seen as terrible horrible crimes; the punishments severe; and legal processes are constantly being adjusted to make convictions easier to obtain. At the same time, traditionally female-on-male crimes such…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/18 07:35 PM
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The guy was closet gay Yeah he definitely had a gay vibe. Probably he is an aspiring actor who went onto the show to get some exposure. I think that unless the woman is a total knockout -- like model quality looks -- there are literally no American men who are fit; clean-cut; in their 30s; and who have good jobs who would seriously date a "29" year old single mother with a view towards a serious relationship. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/18 07:24 PM
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Miracles happen . . . I know a guy who is very short and unattractive; he snagged a cute single mother who was young and had only one child; they went on to have another 5 or 6 kids. There are also people who jump out of planes without parachutes and survive. But it's not the smart play. Almost every single mom out there is desperate for money and the entire legal system is set up to help her extract money from any man she comes into contact with.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/18 07:21 PM
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It's not just the makeup - did you notice the size of her thighs? They are carefully hidden in a baggy pair of pants. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/18 07:13 PM
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I think that a lot of the time, "bad boy" is a code word for men who don't commit because they are getting enough pussy that it's mathematically impossible for them to commit.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/18 07:12 PM
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If it were real life she would just f*ck Chad and in her mind it wasn't cheating because reasons. There is a reason traditional cultures and religions kept unrelated men and women separate except for carefully regimented courtship proceedings. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/18 06:59 PM
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Yeah I think you’re right. Is it a self-dilution, or one that society has taught them should be true? I think it's a bit of both. Society, of course, is intensely gynocentric i.e. it prioritizes the well-being, needs, and desires of women. As a result of that, we don't like to tell women things that make them feel bad. This just feeds women's naturally strong sense of entitlement. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/18 05:49 PM
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At times I feel sorry for all of these women -- ultimately the problem is that most women are children and cannot handle adult level responsibility which includes making their own sexual decisions. Being a decent-looking 18 year old woman is like being handed half a million dollars. That's how much money men will spend on you over the next 15 years for access to your vagina. If you handed $500k to a 13-year-old boy, you can bet there is a very good chance he will squander it and get himself into…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/18 05:42 PM
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My sense is that there are lot more sexually submissive men out there than sexually dominant women. But this doesn't help the situation because your typical Strong Independent Woman has little or no interest in a submissive man; on the contrary she wants someone dominant.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/18 11:24 AM
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Agreed, back in the day when women went to finishing school, educated men -- even doctors and lawyers -- were perfectly happy to court these women whose educations had finished by age 20.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/18 11:22 AM
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Yeah obviously this poster has a wildly overinflated view of her own intelligence and competence. For years, feminism has been telling her that she is just as smart and level-headed as a man. For years, men have been pretending that what she says is interesting in order to get into her panties.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/18 11:19 AM
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Besides, it's not as if men lie or conceal the truth about what we do and don't find attractive. We like women who are youthful; fit; and physically attractive; for marriage there is the added preference that the woman not have been a slut. We care very little about whether the woman has an advanced degree. These are not state secrets. And yet these 30-something advanced-degree women continue to fool themselves about what men like. At least 'nice guys' can point out that for the most part women …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/18 11:15 AM
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Yes, do you notice that 3 times in her post she talks about men who are "cute" or "good looking"? To the male ear, it seems reasonable that a person would want a mate who is "cute." But for women, only a very very small percentage of men are "cute." In fact studies show that women consider something like 80% of men to be below average in looks. So basically it's the same old story: She wants Chad. ​ And by the way I am skeptical that this woman is this innocent girl who has had just a couple lon…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/18 04:32 AM
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Yes an "angry anti-feminist" is simply a man who correctly realizes that men as a group are getting screwed over in our modern gynocentric society. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/18 01:05 AM
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I read /r/foreveralone from time to time and the majority of self-described female incels are not virgins. i.e. they are post-wall and had relationships in the past. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 09:56 PM
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Agree, and I would add that one of the main reasons female incel groups need to be closed is because otherwise they get lots of messages from thirsty men looking for sex. Make a throwaway account where you are a woman, disclose up front that you are ugly, and just want to lose your virginity, and see how many messages you get from men that are eager and willing. I would take it a couple steps further: Post the ugly girl's picture and say you are looking for a long-term relationship and that ther…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 09:48 PM
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Yeah, if her family has given up on her, chances are she has some combination of mental illness and substance abuse problems.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 08:48 PM
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I'm pretty sure she's at least 45.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 08:23 PM
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Yes, I think this is second bitterest red pill, i.e. that it's extremely likely your wife finds you to be sexually unattractive. But the most bitter red pill of them all (in my opinion) is that you won't find your wife to be sexually attractive after 10 or 15 years.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 08:16 PM
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Yeah, so many women think that they are funny and intelligent simply because men pretend it in order to get into their panties. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 07:33 PM
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Why the fuck do we always have to be brave?? It's like playing a more dangerous version of chicken. It reminds me of that movie Back to the Future. The main character was scared to death of being thought of as "chicken" and this fact was used to manipulate him.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 07:31 PM
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Yeah, it's a shame that society is unwilling to confront the problem of toxic femininity. The men around these women constantly pretend that these women have something interesting say in hopes of getting into their panties. Meanwhile, these women are constantly told by their Leftist professors that they are just as smart as men and the Patriarchy is keeping them down. So as a result, they tend to be pretty insufferable by middle age. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 07:12 PM
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Yes that's a succinct way of putting it. > Men don't give a flying shit if you're a doctor or a waitress. Agreed, although I would rather date a waitress than a girl with an advanced degree in Worthless Studies. Because women with bullshit advanced degrees usually have a wildly overinflated view of their own intelligence. Intellectual arrogance and narcissism is an unappealing trait in anyone, but it's especially bad for a woman. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 06:57 PM
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I also love when all these women talk about how educated they are. Agreed. Even a man who prefers an educated woman will be perfectly happy if she has an undergraduate degree. At least men who think that women like nice guys can say that they have been told this many times by women. But what men have ever said that they prefer a woman with an advanced degree? It pretty much never happens. ​ ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 06:48 PM
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Is it me or are women getting more and more entitled? I think women have always been entitled, what's changing now is that traditional norms which kept women in check are being abandoned as being sexist and chauvinistic and patriarchical.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 06:33 PM
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Probably her plan is to move to another city and then lie about her past. You sometimes hear American guys boasting about how they found a hot young wife in Eastern Europe, but I would worry that the woman is a prostitute who is cashing out. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 06:18 PM
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Good point, except that she presumably wants a relationship where she is 100% free to end things at any time and for any reason; only the man is committed.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 04:55 PM
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I'm pretty sure this is a joke/parody/experiment post.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 04:45 PM
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It is easy to reject the men, because they are either rich or not. However, for the women they have to be more "diplomatic" about rejections. Agreed -- in general in life you have to be more "diplomatic" with women. Which is part of the problem. Women get so much positive feedback and so little negative feedback that they tend to have wildly over-inflated self-esteem.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 04:08 PM
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Do you honestly believe that a woman is more attractive to men in her 30s/40s than she was in her 20s? Seriously? ​ ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 04:03 PM
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Yeah, I would like to think that this is fake/parody but it seems authentic.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 03:46 PM
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She's not cruel. These feelings come from her biology, which is a product of evolution. They evolved because they were beneficial. Agreed, but everyone has feelings (from their biology) which are destructive if expressed or acted upon.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 03:41 PM
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How does she still get any dates at all? Probably I don't need to tell you this, but a lot of guys will put up with quite a lot in order to get laid. I have a female family member like this, she is mentally ill (borderline personality disorder). She is extremely unreasonable and difficult to get along with but from age 15 to 35 she had plenty of guys dating her. ​ ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 03:12 PM
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Agreed, open marriages seem fair only on the surface. The real way to make it fair is if the man is free to spend his income on other women. If the wife is free to open her legs to other men, then the husband should be free to open his wallet to other women. Imagine if the husband in an open marriage told his wife that he was spending his Christmas bonus taking another woman on a romantic trip to Europe. Of course the wife would completely freak out. Because when wives ask for open relationships…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 02:59 PM
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Yeah, that's my thinking too. Probably they charge a nominal registration fee for women and charge men a good deal more, with the understanding that those men are paying a premium in order to have access to young attractive women. Probably if they started accepting older, fat women, the whole business would unravel. Their wealthy male customers would lose interest after a few dates and start to leave; which would cause their young attractive women to leave as well since they aren't likely to mee…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 02:29 PM
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I think that a matchmaker would be okay with an attractive 32 year old woman. A lot of guys in their 40s are okay with that. My guess is the real problem here is that the girl is overweight but the matchmaker didn't want to tell her that. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 02:19 PM
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wow they are honest and ethical. Well probably they don't want to get a reputation of having lots of fat women as is the case with Plenty of Landwhales. I don't know what their business model is, but the clever thing to do would be to charge a lot of money to their male customers; charge their female customers little; and use that as a way to stack the deck with desirable women. In the same way that night clubs try to get a lot of attractive women in the door as a way of attracting men who in tu…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 02:15 PM
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Agreed, look at her chest right below her neck -- lots of age spots and wrinkling. I would guess this woman is over 50 and without makeup and the right lighting she looks pretty frightening. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 01:47 PM
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Even if this woman is listening, it's just too late for her. If she wises up and marries a man at her level, she will forever resent him for not being as exciting and attractive as the men in her past.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 11:16 AM
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Yeah, I don't know any men anywhere who find a woman more attractive because she has traveled. For me it would make the woman less attractive because I would prefer to be the one who introduces her to interesting and exotic countries. And that's ignoring the fact that almost certainly she slutted it up on those international trips. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 11:10 AM
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Right, she probably uses tinder and only swipes right (or left? I dunno) on men in the top 10-20% of looks.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 11:08 AM
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Almost certainly this male friend is a decent guy who would be thrilled to have a long-term relationship with her. So what's the problem? Almost certainly it's because he's not tall enough; not handsome enough; etc.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 11:06 AM
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Sure, because the truth is pretty obvious. She's probably been told the truth almost as many times as she's f*cked different guys.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 11:04 AM
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The sub's rules forbid "misogyny" and "slut-shaming." Probably if you were to gently tell her the truth -- that men don't like the idea of marrying a girl with a long sexual history -- your post would get deleted by the mods. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 11:02 AM
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Probably it's an exaggeration, but given the post, you can be very confident that she has f*cked dozens if not hundreds of men on these international trips. ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 11:00 AM
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so no one had the balls to tell her the truth huh? Have you looked at the rules of that sub? No red pill; no slut-shaming; no misogyny; no rating peoples' looks; etc. Presumably telling this woman the truth would violate all these rules.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 10:59 AM
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Well that's another problem with modern society -- women are told that it's horrible and unacceptable for their husband to see other women; that it's just as bad as a wife who cheats her husband.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 10:52 AM
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Well it's kind of a nice way of saying that men HATE women who think they are very smart. Intellectual arrogance and narcissism is unattractive in anyone but in women it's especially unattractive.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 10:50 AM
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Yeah, that's one of the dirty little secrets about being married -- that in a typical "successful" marriage, your wife will be sexually attractive to you for well under half the length of the marriage.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 02:08 AM
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I think a lot of it is that women don't realize just how much age factors into their sex appeal. Most women probably think that a 50 year old Cindy Crawford is more attractive than an average looking 25 year old.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 01:48 AM
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Agreed, but even at 32 should land a man no problem. With 99% certainty I can say that her problem is that she dates only the most physically attractive men who are willing to date her. If she would only lower her standards by a couple of looks points she would be fine. Heck, there are probably guys at school and work who would be happy to have an LTR with her. Probably she is totally unaware just how much she is driven by looks. Men who are average-looking just seem "creepy" or "no chemistry" o…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 01:39 AM
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Everyone declines in attractiveness as they age but men don't have a rapid and sudden decline like women do.
/r/MGTOW22/12/18 11:08 PM
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It's really interesting to surf web sites like seeking arrangement. So many seemingly sweet nice girls in college or grad school who will hop into the sack with some random dude for a quick $300. Many of those girls will go on to marry guys who have no idea that their wife hooked on the side for years. ​ ​
/r/MGTOW02/12/18 11:00 PM
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I think it's possible, even today, to sufficiently dominate a woman to keep her happy. But is it really worth the trouble? A lot of the time it isn't. ​
/r/MGTOW02/12/18 06:49 PM
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The solution is to start accusing them for every little thing. Only way to stop it is turning it on them. I think the West is too gynocentric for this to work. People have automatic respect and deference for women; when a sobbing woman claims she's been wronged, people leap to help her and automatically believe her. If a man tries the same thing he gets laughed at. ​ I believe that a male backup dancer tried to MeToo Mariah Carey. As I recall, the allegation was that she paraded around undressed…
/r/MGTOW02/12/18 06:28 PM
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It makes the story more dramatic to have him leave her right before the wedding. But I'm pretty sure it's fake. If it were an actual woman, she would be saying that she had only 1 or 2 guys before. Why not? It makes her look better and him worse. That's how women think. They start out with an emotion and fit the facts to those emotions. ​
/r/MGTOW02/12/18 04:18 PM
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Many have commented that it doesn't protect you from anything. A good prenup offers a lot of protection, but there's an easy loophole here because the girl is probably capable of getting pregnant. Prenups don't cover child support.
/r/MGTOW02/12/18 10:39 AM
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Yeah I think doctors are magnets for gold-diggers. Think about it from the woman's perspective: If the man she is chasing is a business owner or a mid-level executive, it's difficult to tell if he is exaggerating about his income and living beyond his means. If the man is a doctor chances are he still makes good money even if he is exaggerating. ​ ​ ​
/r/MGTOW02/12/18 10:36 AM
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> He should have realized this when she refused to marry without a pre-nup. If THATS not a red flag I dont know what the fuck is. ​ Agreed, but this girl will almost certainly get pregnant and prenups don't apply to child support. Hopefully the doctor will be the actual father. ​
/r/MGTOW02/12/18 10:27 AM
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Even if she's 25, she's pretty close to the wall. I don't like being old, but it does give you some perspective. If you marry a cute 25-year-old, even if she is sweet and nice and loyal, it won't change the fact that you get 10 or so years with someone who is sexually attractive followed by 40 or 50 years with a very expensive roommate. And 10 years goes by pretty quickly.
/r/MGTOW02/12/18 10:25 AM
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I'm pretty confident the post is fake. The evidence is that the poster actually admits that she had had sex with 100 men. An actual woman wouldn't do this. An actual woman would say that her fiance was upset because she had had a boyfriend before and her fiance was upset that she wasn't a virgin. i.e. she would flagrantly lie about the situation to make her position seem extremely reasonable and the guy's position extremely unreasonable. ​ In real life, when women describe their conflicts with t…
/r/MGTOW02/12/18 10:13 AM
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Someone lives in Texas, it’s hot in Texas, therefore They like the heat... The better analogy would be if for some strange reason, a group of people prefer to live in places like Texas, Florida, and Southern California, especially during the winter, but choose not to live in places like Minnesota or Alaska. And in fact there seems to be a perfect correlation between where such people live and the average temperature there. ​ Can we agree that it's reasonable to infer that such people probably li…
/r/MGTOW30/11/18 10:20 PM
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Yes, people naturally more deferential to women so it's easier for women to get away with lying. ​
/r/MGTOW30/11/18 09:44 PM
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Yup, must be just a huge coincidence. ​ ​
/r/MGTOW30/11/18 09:41 PM
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Women are supposed to have a higher body fat percentage but not a higher BMI. Because muscle is heavier than fat. In fact it used to be that the line for overweight was like 27.5 for men and 25.0 for women but a few years back they made the cutoffs the same, presumably to help conceal the fact that obesity is a bigger problem among women than among men. ​ ​
/r/MGTOW30/11/18 08:23 PM
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Their looks. And by some weird coincidence, women's looks are extremely well correlated with their fertility. Hmmmmmm
/r/MGTOW30/11/18 08:05 PM
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believe it or not but being fertile isn’t a big part to be attractive.. Women who are between 18 and 35 get far far far more sexual attention than post-wall women. Why do you think that is?
/r/MGTOW30/11/18 07:21 PM
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Taking the red pill is not easy. Agreed. We men have a strong instinct to seek approval and validation from women which often screws up our judgment. I admit that it feels good to me to render aid to a woman, particularly if she is young and attractive. Just like it feels good to stuff my face with nachos. Both instincts are destructive more often than not. ​
/r/MGTOW30/11/18 05:41 PM
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Even if she is faithful, it's very likely she's thinking about Chad. ​
/r/MGTOW30/11/18 05:18 PM
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Because the tip is now an expectation and not an incentive as it once was. Call it whatever you want, the point is this: There is a huge problem in society today with women extracting resources from men through unfair means, usually involving the power of the state: E.g. alimony payments to cheating wives; sperm jacking; paternity fraud; sexual harassment lawsuits over consensual activity; etc. Heck, even the welfare state is basically just a huge wealth transfer from men to women. Tipping a swe…
/r/MGTOW30/11/18 05:12 PM
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I am not into conspiracies, but a lot of things society feeds us with seem to aim at making us men blind to the reality of the dating market. Well society has an unwritten rule that we are not supposed to make any statement or observation that puts women as a group in a negative light. This rule is a result of (1) female childishness; and (2) the male desire for female validation. Since so much of the truth is unflattering to women, it ends up getting supressed. ​ ​
/r/MGTOW30/11/18 11:20 AM
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Here's a though experiment: Suppose you took a few extremely desirable men, e.g. handsome movie actors or male models, gave each one pictures of 100 women, and asked them to rate these girls as "average," "above-average," "below-average," etc. I'm pretty sure you would still get a bell-shaped curve. Even the pickiest men can still recognize that a girl is well above average in looks. And can distinguish between a girl who is average and one who is well below average in looks. Here's another thou…
/r/MGTOW30/11/18 11:15 AM
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Yeah, men don't have a tattling instinct and generally will first try to solve a problem by withdrawing from offensive behavior or confronting the offending party. Women's first instinct is to run to an authority figure.
/r/MGTOW30/11/18 10:51 AM
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Again going to Youtube, there is an interview with her from 1996 where she states she is 15 years old and in high school. It doesn't seem that she is lying there so I will accept that she is approximately 37 years old. I think that there is some variation in women in terms of when they hit the wall -- usually between 30 and 40 and it depends on their genes and lifestyle. Nathalie Portman looks like she is anorexic so I would guess her poor eating habits have accelerated her decrepitude. And yeah…
/r/MGTOW30/11/18 10:32 AM
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I do think that she's hitting the wall, but I don't think this picture demonstrates it. It looks to me like they tried to give her a rough look for her latest movie. Here is an interview I found of her on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MGZbOaLYew&t=0m45s You can clearly see the crow's feet and labio-nasal folds. What's worse, she's lost a lot of the subcutaneous fat that gives girls' faces a more youthful, plump appearance. Here's an interview from 2008: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v…
/r/MGTOW29/11/18 11:36 PM
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If you don’t get married you can pay them back and dump them for a younger woman. Our SMV is at its lowest when we are young and GOES UP when we get older if we don’t let a slut drain us dry and make us an indentured servant Yes and no. It's true that a wealthy man has an easier time attracting girls. The trouble is that if the man is average-looking, the girl's instincts will be screaming at her to cheat on him, especially when she is ovulating. Once a girl cheats on her man, she will lose resp…
/r/MGTOW29/11/18 10:40 PM
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All of this is possible, I'm just talking about ways to reduce your risk. There's no 100% bulletproof way to be safe from false accusations of sexual assault. ​
/r/MGTOW29/11/18 10:35 PM
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Yeah, a cheating website would know that it can aggressively scam its customers since nobody is going to sue them. Anyway, I think that most dating web sites cheat to an extent for example by leaving up stale female profiles which haven't been logged into in years while quickly deleting stale male profiles. Also, I think that dating sites tend to pander to their female clientele, for example by making it easy for them to screen out short men while making it difficult for men to screen out fat wo…
/r/MGTOW28/11/18 11:53 PM
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I think this is overly paranoid. I think the approach is to start by thinking about the main reasons why girls make false rape accusations, which are (1) as an alibi for cheating on their boyfriend/husband; (2) regret; (3) revenge; and (4) money and attention. As far as the first category goes, your defense is to avoid getting involved with a girl who is attached and don't do anything sexually with her until you know her well enough to know she isn't living with another guy. For the second categ…
/r/MGTOW28/11/18 04:43 PM
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Not being obese would be a plus. That falls under "healthy." ​
/r/MGTOW28/11/18 02:42 PM
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I know you're just kidding around, but what's funny is that even if the husband does hold frame and plays great relationship game, he gets to spend many years with a partner who is sexually unappealing. ​
/r/MGTOW28/11/18 10:12 AM
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Agreed, a woman's options depend heavily on her physical attractiveness which depends heavily on her age. Even in our feminist society (especially in our feminist society) the main way that women get anything in life is by convincing men to get it for them. This has been true so many thousands of years that it's probably part of our genes by now. ​ If you want to have fun on a dating site, message women saying that you've looked at their pictures and you are wondering if they are a few years old…
/r/MGTOW28/11/18 10:08 AM
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Agreed, although there aren't many male hookers of any age. The bigger point is that when the subject of the Wall comes up, usually some feminist or white knight makes the point that men too lose their looks as the age. Which is true of course, but distracts from the real point here, which is that the window of female sexual attractiveness is shockingly narrow, typically about 15-20 years max. (For men it is perhaps double that.) For a man considering marriage, this is worth keeping in mind. i.e…
/r/MGTOW28/11/18 10:01 AM
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Looks like a fake post to me. Even when there won't be any consequences or repercussions, it's pretty unusual for women to own their misbehavior or to admit to their gold-digging. An actual woman talking about her slutty past would be complaining about how previous men had used and mistreated her while her church husband genuinely cared for her. ​ That said, I'm sure there are a lot of church girls who are nowhere near as innocent and virginal as they pretend to be.
/r/MGTOW28/11/18 09:42 AM
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Agree, I was thinking more about preferences in terms of physical attributes.
/r/MGTOW28/11/18 09:22 AM
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In theory I don't care that women have height preferences, I just wish they wouldn't be so contemptuous and dismissive of male preferences. That said, perhaps I'm biased, but I think that male preferences are pretty darn reasonable: Generally speaking we prefer a woman who appears to be healthy and fertile and that's pretty much it.
/r/MGTOW28/11/18 12:48 AM
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> That is assuming they take care of themselves ​ Right, that's why I said "if you are lucky" ​
/r/MGTOW28/11/18 12:17 AM
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You don't conceal it. You tell her: 'This is how it is going to be' Lol, nice fantasy. ​
/r/MGTOW28/11/18 12:16 AM
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I think it depends on one's preferences. Dolls don't hold any appeal for me, although I do think that a life-like sexbot might be interesting. ​
/r/MGTOW28/11/18 12:09 AM
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I would say it depends on how selective they are in deleting comments. If delete comments which offer red-pill hypotheses to explain the study but leave up blue pill comments, it's a pretty lousy thing to do. Along with most guys here, I'm pretty confident that female hypergamy plays a big role in what was observed by the study. There were lots of non-deleted comments with hypotheses about housework; financial stress from job loss; etc. But I did a ctrl-f and couldn't find the word "hypergamy," …
/r/MGTOW26/11/18 11:01 PM
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I tend to agree with you, but at the same time, there would be a certain poetic justice in giving men free reign to follow their selfish impulses just as feminists demand for women. Of course it would literally mean the end of civilization so there's that.
/r/MGTOW26/11/18 10:46 PM
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I like this quote: >When I was in my 20s, when all it took to cure a hangover was a single serving of Easy Mac, there seemed to be an abundance of humans around. There were roommates and uncoupled friends who just "showed up" always willing to lend a hand. i.e. before she hit the wall, she could attract beta orbiters to do her dirty work for her in hopes of getting laid; now all that interest has dried up.
/r/MGTOW26/11/18 08:00 PM
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It might have been a pre-planned scam, but also a lot of girls just kind of wander through life using men. In fact, metaphorically, most women are like that girl, i.e. they act irresponsibly, they expect men to bail them out of problems, and they have no feeling of gratitude or obligation afterwards. ​
/r/MGTOW26/11/18 07:48 PM
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Sure, but that prediction is pretty mild compared to the logical conclusion of sexual pluralism: That a woman's instincts are pushing her very hard to f*ck Chad behind her husband's back and get pregnant. It's telling that even in countries where this kind of adultery is punishable by death, it regularly happens. In fact, I'm pretty confident that cheating wives are more common than cheating husbands; studies of infidelity rely on self-reporting which is notoriously unreliable.
/r/MGTOW26/11/18 06:42 PM
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I am pretty sure OkCupid took down the article. The unwritten rule, of course, is that you don't post information which puts women as a group in a negative light. I think that at the time, OkCupid's blogger thought it was just an interesting observation but didn't realize the implications of these graphs. That these graphs are a compelling demonstration of female hypergamy. That they document the dirty little secret which is responsible for most relationship failures. That they show why wise cul…
/r/MGTOW26/11/18 04:38 PM
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Of course, that's why traditional laws and norms regarding family life were so strict with women -- they couldn't divorce without their husband's permission; there were serious consequences if the woman cheated her husband; their choice of husband needed to be approved by their father; and so on. It's not because the men who made those laws were moustache-twirling women-hating villains, it's because they knew women would run amok if given freedom in these areas.
/r/MGTOW26/11/18 02:43 PM
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What is attractive to a female is more concerned with the status and resources than anything else I agree to an extent, but the degree to which she is concerned about resources versus looks varies during her menstrual cycle. Women have 2-track sexuality since they seek men for 2 separate reasons -- provider/protector and sperm donor. ​ That's why if you are a wealthy but average-looking man, you are at extreme risk of being cheated on. The woman's instincts are screaming at her to take advantage…
/r/MGTOW26/11/18 11:11 AM
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Their response is the same as that of women -- to blame it on men posting lousy pictures of themselves on dating sites. There's always a way to twist things to put the responsibility on men.
/r/MGTOW26/11/18 11:04 AM
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It's a shame that science is also infected with gynocentrism. Men and women both would be a lot happier and better off if society would accept the basics of female hypergamy and develop norms, laws, and policies accordingly.
/r/MGTOW26/11/18 11:01 AM
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Well I think the key is to be the adult in the situation and treat her like a spoiled child who doesn't know what's best for itself. The real question is whether it's worth the trouble.
/r/MGTOW26/11/18 10:53 AM
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Yes, I'm pretty sure that if you asked men to assign pretty much anything into categories of "average" "above average" etc., you would get a reasonably bell-shaped result. ​
/r/MGTOW25/11/18 10:48 PM
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Believe me when I say this: it is possible for you to stay happily married with your wife, and to get as much sex with twenty-year-olds as you want and need. You just have to find a way to make it happen. And where there is a will, there is a way. I don't think so. If a married man is clever, he can get away with quite a lot of quickies and flings and his wife either won't know or will look the other way. But having a paramour is a lot harder. It's very difficult to conceal such a relationship o…
/r/MGTOW25/11/18 03:16 PM
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Not sure what your point is here. I said that staying in a sexless marriage was about as good as going MGTOW. I didn't actually characterize anything as MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW25/11/18 11:50 AM
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I think is why it's a mistake to try to increase fertility rates by bribing women to have children. Because if the bribe is generous enough to actually make a difference, childless women will demand a seat at the table and the bribe will lose its effectiveness.
/r/MGTOW24/11/18 07:44 PM
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That sentence was a bit unclear, sorry. What I was trying to say is that if I go MGTOW at this point, I'm no better off than if I stay married. Either way means that I am supporting my wife and children and getting little sex. ​ Or to put it another way, assuming that I completely accept the MGTOW philosophy what's the point of getting divorced or separated? At this point, I might as well make the best I can of the situation. ​ ​
/r/MGTOW24/11/18 06:24 PM
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If your family is wealthy and willing to guarantee in writing all the expenses of marriage (wedding ceremony, house, child support if there is a divorce, etc.), then I would do it make her happy. Why not?
/r/MGTOW24/11/18 05:43 PM
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The media doesn't care about stuff like this. And why would a lawyer care either? They paid the guy the balance of his contract. If you don't believe me, e-mail a couple reporters and call a couple lawyers pretending it's you this happened to and see what kind of response you get. Anyway, I agree with the other posters that you don't spend time with female co-workers outside of work. The female tattling instinct and desire for drama is very strong. A better option is to start your own business. …
/r/MGTOW24/11/18 04:58 PM
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Yes, I have children who would be pretty upset if I were to leave. I still might do it, though, but what are the alternatives? I could find some nice hot 20-something but then I'd be back in the same boat in another 10 years. I could jump from relationship to relationship but that would feel pretty meaningless to me and in any event, it's getting harder and harder to find young women who are not obese or crazy or both, especially as I age. The last option is to go MGTOW, but if I'm going to do t…
/r/MGTOW24/11/18 04:40 PM
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It's a painful subject for me, but I am married and have very little sex with my wife. There are a few reasons for this, but the main one is that as a man, I am biologically programmed to be sexually attracted primarily to women who appear to be healthy and fertile. ​ Thus, I am interested in having sex with girls who are fit and in their 20s, not women who are flabby and in their 50s like my wife. ​ Our gynocentric society tells us middle-aged guys that there is something very wrong with us for…
/r/MGTOW24/11/18 12:40 PM
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Well probably also she is young and cute. If I had a choice between a cute 25-year-old who made minimum wage and an average looking 35-year-old with a high-powered job, I would take the first option every time. ​ (Of course, since this is a MGTOW discussion board, it's worth pointing out that the cute 25-year-old will lose her looks very quickly.)
/r/MGTOW24/11/18 02:19 AM
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When women are free to dress as they want, inevitably they start competing with eachother to dress revealingly in order to get male validation and attention. And inevitably they blame men for "forcing" them to dress revealingly. ​
/r/MGTOW23/11/18 12:32 PM
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If you take a child and give them adult-level freedom, it's likely that the child will do some crazy things.
/r/MGTOW23/11/18 12:29 PM
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Why would they be, the system is so rigged in their favour. It's not just that, it's also that women have a difficult time being fair-minded. That said, I do think there are a few women out there who get it, but such women understand that it's not their place to attention-whore online; that their job is to be a loyal and supportive wife to a man. So you don't really hear from them. ​
/r/MGTOW23/11/18 02:46 AM
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> At least you have your children I hope they turn out to be great adults ​ I do too, but it's very difficult for me to compete with the seductive message of feminism, which tells women and girls that they are just as good and smart as men; that they can do everything a man can do; that they don't need male guidance or leadership; and that anything that goes wrong as a result of these beliefs is the fault of men misbehaving in some way. ​ How do you teach your daughters that they will never ever…
/r/MGTOW22/11/18 03:58 PM
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I am married with children. It's not terrible if you take a stoic attitude about money (they drain you dry) and sex (women lose their sex appeal very quickly). As an ethnic nationalist, I was ready to make these sacrifices. The biggest disappointment was that it's basically impossible to raise children with traditional conservative values without moving to some isolated religious community. It's impossible to turn on the television, watch a movie, or read a newspaper without getting bombarded wi…
/r/MGTOW29/10/18 05:54 AM
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Yeah, I think the real irony here is that the reason women like this have their whims and delusions catered to is due to gynocentrism, i.e. peoples' instinctive desire to accommodate women. And the reason for this instinct is women's critical role in reproduction. In other words, this broad really had only ONE job, and she blew it.
/r/MGTOW29/10/18 04:06 AM
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But I know men also suffer from age physically. ​ To be sure we do, but so what? Women must face certain realities and bringing up men is just a distraction from that reality. ​ ​ ​
/r/MGTOW29/10/18 03:25 AM
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Yeah I made a similar point before I saw this. The phrase "cruel twist of fate" implies that something bizarre and unexpected happened. In this case, she faced a substantially increased risk of problems due to her advanced age and the age at which she froze her eggs. ​ She rolled the dice and lost. ​
/r/MGTOW29/10/18 01:14 AM
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Sure but the relative risk between men and women is very different. A 50 year old man having children is the equivalent of a woman in her early 30s reproducing -- there is increased risk but it's nothing like that when the woman is 50. ​ There's this feminist push to deny the advantages men have over women. It serves very little practical purpose as it leads women to make stupid choices, but I guess for women it's all about the feeelz.
/r/MGTOW29/10/18 01:06 AM
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Yes, why is it so terrible to have children in your 20s and focus on your education and career in your 30s and 40s?
/r/MGTOW29/10/18 12:59 AM
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How exactly is this a "cruel twist of fate"? The phrase "cruel twist of fate" implies that something happened that was bizarre and unforeseeable. ​ Any idiot knows that if you freeze your eggs, especially in your late 30s, there's a pretty good chance it won't work out. ​ ​
/r/MGTOW29/10/18 12:54 AM
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This reminds me of an interview I read with a guy who made a living passing bad checks. He would look for stores that had signs which said "absolutely no checks."
/r/MGTOW27/10/18 12:26 PM
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Feminists (which includes 99.9% of women) instinctively hate literally any activity which men enjoy. ​ They will make up various rationalizations (e.g. football promotes domestic violence, pornography is objectification and leads to rape, etc.), but what's really going on is that deep down, women know that they are helpless without men and will literally starve to death without male provision and protection. Thus, everything and anything that men pursue other than serving women is something that…
/r/MGTOW27/10/18 08:27 AM
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Clothing, latte with her girlfriends, manicures, the usual nonsense. Over 5 or 10 years, it can really add up especially once you start getting charged high interest rates. ​
/r/MGTOW27/10/18 08:00 AM
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I don't mind that men are subjected to much greater risks, I just wish that we men would get the respect and grattitude we deserve for our sacrifices.
/r/MGTOW27/10/18 04:30 AM
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She's putting out sexually, it's just that my sexual interest for her has declined quite a bit. One thing they don't tell young men is that as you age, the age range of women you find attractive doesn't keep up.
/r/MGTOW27/10/18 02:57 AM
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The kids would be upset. That and what's the point anyway?
/r/MGTOW27/10/18 02:53 AM
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Yeah, I'm surprised that there hasn't been a lawsuit over that. In order to qualify for college financial aid in the United States, males have to have registered. But what if you just check off the box which says you are a woman? ​
/r/MGTOW26/10/18 08:20 PM
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Yeah I was reading about a study which found that women are more likely to be interrupted than men. It was presented as evidence that women are discriminated against, but I'm pretty sure the real reason is that women are much more likely than men to spout irrelevant nonsense without getting to the point.
/r/MGTOW26/10/18 07:47 PM
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My wife ran up 75k in credit card debt. I am paying it off on a monthly plan, she is not allowed to have credit cards anymore. ​ It kind of goes without saying that marriage is pretty much a sh*tty deal for men. I did it for purposes of reproduction. ​ ​
/r/MGTOW26/10/18 07:41 PM
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Here's a thought experiment: Suppose you kidnapped a woman and held her captive for 5 years. How much jailtime should you receive? ​ Morally, a false rape accusation is on par with kidnapping. If false rape accusations were primarily a crime committed by men against women, you can bet there would be severe punishment. ​
/r/PussyPassDenied26/10/18 07:05 PM
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Pretty much. It just depends how much you value reproduction.
/r/MGTOW25/10/18 12:43 PM
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Lol no, I am just a guy who's stoic about the financial downsides of marriage.
/r/MGTOW25/10/18 09:39 AM
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Perhaps, but most of the White Knights I have observed seem to accomplish basically nothing in terms of romantically attracting women.
/r/MGTOW25/10/18 08:57 AM
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I agree that a middle aged man can do quite a lot to counter the decline in his appearance but the decline is real.
/r/MGTOW25/10/18 02:46 AM
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Hell yeah it is. And to add insult to injury, we are constantly told the lie that it's females who are the object of societal contempt.
/r/MGTOW24/10/18 11:48 AM
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By the way, as a side note I think that girls don't necessarily prefer 50 year old men to 30 year old men. What's going on (I think) is that older women make more intensive use of dating sites. As a middle aged man, I get hit on a lot more now than in the past, but it's mostly middle aged women. The level of interest I get from young women has declined modestly. So the net result is a lot more interest from women despite a lower sexual marketplace value.
/r/MGTOW24/10/18 06:23 AM
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Yeah surely she gets messages from pedophiles who subtly (and not so subtly) express interest in the child. So the fact that she leaves that shot up suggests that she's either pimping out the child or teasing.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/10/18 06:14 AM
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Yeah if a 45 year old man is interested in a 25 year old girl, our gynocentric society claims that he is disgusting, creepy, one step above a pedophile, in denial about his lost youth, etc. In short, that there is something very wrong with him. In fact, society is pretty contemptuous in general of most male desires other than the desire to please women without asking for anything in return.
/r/MGTOW24/10/18 05:13 AM
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Nothing. Men hang out with women only due to their instinctive desire for female validation.
/r/MGTOW24/10/18 03:21 AM
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I agree with your first sentence completely. Society is totally deferential to young women which is part of the reason there is such a big problem with false rape accusations. But I think that older women are still catered to by society a good deal more than men of any age. Still, most women subconsciously expect that the treatment they received in their 20s will and should go on forever. I think this is why so many middle aged women are bitter, depressed, and generally difficult to deal with.
/r/MGTOW24/10/18 03:17 AM
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Yeah, in hindsight it's common sense that men are mainly sexually attracted to women who appear to be healthy and fertile, ie thin and under 30. But society kind of suppresses this fact. I am middle aged and married to a woman who is roughly my age. I have very little sexual attraction for her but it took me a while to accept that this is completely normal and natural and doesn't mean there is anything wrong with me.
/r/MGTOW24/10/18 02:49 AM
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Actually there are 2 judges - Kavanaugh and Thomas.
/r/MGTOW24/10/18 02:26 AM
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Yeah, if you open your eyes there is a phenomenal amount of hostility towards male heterosexuality.
/r/MGTOW26/06/17 07:56 PM
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So this chick just wants someone to pay for her Uber to the hospital? No, the man must first provide his name and contact information so she can verify that he is respectable and worthy of paying her cab fare. Seriously, read the ad.
/r/MGTOW25/06/17 11:28 PM
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I doubt even that would work. Women are pre-programmed to be repulsed by men in the bottom 10% or so and to get wet from men in the top 10%. There is always a bottom 10% and a top 10%. In a world with less height variation, it's possible that women will pay less attention to height, but I think more likely they will pay more attention to small differences. Kind of like they do already with mens' faces.
/r/MGTOW25/06/17 08:52 PM
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That's how women protect themselves, like a baby. They cry out for someone who can do something aka a man. Yeah, I pointed this out upthread. From an evolutionary perspective, it makes sense. Men are significantly stronger, faster, and smarter than women so if a woman comes into conflict with a man, her only real hope is to find another man to take her side in the conflict.
/r/MGTOW25/06/17 07:38 PM
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Can you call the cops on being called fat? I don't know, but most womens' first instinct if they have a problem is to look for a white knight to save them. It's really a shame that there are so many white knights out there, because without white knights, women would simply stop giving men sh*t.
/r/MGTOW25/06/17 07:34 PM
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They are incapable of introspection and consistency. For the most part, I agree. Most men feel an internal pull to be consistent. So if a man says that he will be somewhere at a certain time, he will feel an internal sense of obligation to be there. That's why people say "he's a man of his word" but they never say "she's a woman of her word." Because they know that women have little or no sense of honor or obligation. If a woman shows up on time for a date, it's only because it was her best opti…
/r/MGTOW25/06/17 07:30 PM
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But aren't you giving them control over your emotional state? Perhaps, I don't know. Thanks for your CONCERN though.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/06/17 10:42 AM
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They will eventually. Everybody knows this sub is going to eventually get banned in the future. I don't know if they will succeed or not, but I'm pretty confident that at least subconsciously they would like to silence all commentary that puts women in a negative light.
/r/MGTOW24/06/17 10:33 AM
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How are you active in this sub and on r/mgtow at the same time? Doesn't mgtow postulate to not spent time dealing with women? Not judging, genuinely curious about that! Just like to vent. Women in the West are alarmingly out of control.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/06/17 10:25 AM
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This seems perfectly reasonable You need to pay attention to the code words. "ready to settle down" and "good man" means that she's been whoring it up for years and now she is looking for those beta bucks.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/06/17 10:26 PM
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She can revoke consent, so can you In theory, this makes sense. But as a practical matter, it would lead to far more unfair prosecutions than to justice.
/r/MGTOW23/06/17 10:23 PM
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Read the About section in the sidebar, and notice how her profile parallels. Should give you an idea of what's going on. Yeah, it seems she is "chasing Chad's commitment."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/06/17 02:53 PM
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Here's a question: What is something traditional and feminine that a woman can do which men as a group will appreciate? I can think of a few: Take care of your body and wear nice dresses and skirts so that men will enjoy looking at you. Exhort other women not to invade traditionally male spaces such as men's clubs; elite military units; corporate leadership; and so on. Publicly express gratitude for the effort and sacrifice made by men to build the safe and comfortable world you inhabit. Seems t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/06/17 02:51 PM
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I send messages to guys I'm attracted to Looks to me like she is making the classic mistake of dating the most physically attractive men she can and hoping one will commit to her. As opposed to dating commitment-oriented men and settling for one who is reasonably attractive.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/06/17 12:00 PM
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Part of the problem is that when men act in a chivalrous way, they are hoping to get something in return -- respect, approval, and yes, improved romantic prospects. But instead they get mocked, ridiculed, and blown off in favor of Chads and bad-boys.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/06/17 11:54 AM
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I guess perhaps due to the subtle "you'd look more attractive if..." which implies "you're attractive" with the caveat of "but I'd prefer <insert change to appearance>" Does that sum up your perspective on the flirtation argument? Pretty much. It shows that the person cares about your appearance and wants you to look more attractive.
/r/MGTOW22/06/17 09:57 PM
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I've never had any idea on how to flirt, I wasn't aware calling someone's look ugly was flirting. Depends how you do it. "You would look sexy if changed your style to do X" means that the person cares about your appearance and wants you to look nice.
/r/MGTOW22/06/17 09:57 PM
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The money quote: Like all forms of inequality, the people who profit from it tend not to see it. These women have no idea what the "mental load" is of a typical working man's life. They assume that a typical man's job is just like a part-time gig re-shelving books at the local library, except that the man gets paid a lot more due to Patriarchical Discrimination. They know nothing of the brutal commutes; the never-ending stress; the contradictory demands; the actual dangers; the dirty work enviro…
/r/MGTOW22/06/17 04:58 PM
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How can that happen? Is cream flammable? Apparently it's dispensed from a pressurized canister. A component of the canister failed, causing the whole thing to explode. Some debris hit her in the chest in the wrong place, causing her heart to fail. Although I disapprove of this type of woman, there doesn't seem to be any connection between her lifestyle and her death. Even if she were the perfect NAWALT, something like this could have happened.
/r/MGTOW22/06/17 04:30 PM
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It's rare to see a television commercial where the man is cool and the woman looks foolish.
/r/MGTOW22/06/17 03:48 PM
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What was really going on here was that this girl was trying to flirt with you and you rebuffed her advances.
/r/MGTOW22/06/17 03:01 PM
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Well if these charts were true, it wouldn't be unreasonable. But they aren't. I basically agree. If a woman is 5'3"; and she is looking for 5'8" or taller, it's not like a 5'8" man can message her; the height box is checked off; and it's no longer an issue.
/r/MGTOW21/06/17 09:51 AM
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I will do them through surrogacy or I'll marry some virgin from a third word country Personally, I would not want a virgin because I would worry she had some weird hangup about sex. Ideally I would want someone who had had 1 or 2 serious relationships, 3 at the most. I would accept a virgin if she was a religious type.
/r/MGTOW20/06/17 03:42 PM
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There are a few solid, rational reasons why a man would prefer a women without a promiscuous past. But why does it even need to be justified? Does this guy try to convince women that they should not care if a man is shorter than them? Or if he has a high status job? Somehow I doubt it. That's another aspect of our gynocentric world: Mens' preferences -- and only men's preferences -- are delegitimized in mainstream conversation. If I were looking for a relationship with a woman, I would want some…
/r/MGTOW20/06/17 01:37 PM
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I see a couple issues here: First, women who are truly capable of living an independent life are extremely rare. Second, women don't really need to go their own way since the deck is stacked in their favor.
/r/MGTOW19/06/17 10:44 AM
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That Udy Pranks Youtube channel really opened my eyes. He catches golddiggers. As a side note, most of those Youtube golddigger prank videos are fake. That said, yeah, most girls in relationships have 1 or 2 guys on the back burner. Even if they are not actually having sex with them.
/r/MGTOW19/06/17 06:57 AM
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Fuck Soros. He's constantly supporting the sort of Left-wing organizations that push for gynocentrism everywhere.
/r/MGTOW19/06/17 06:49 AM
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At the surface that sounds like a very reasonable argument. However, past that surface, are men allowed to have one day of the year for themselves? Is there anything men are allowed to have on their own, nowadays? This is what it's al about, female infiltration on ALL men's spaces. Yes, I tried to make the same point but I think you made it more succinctly. Any time men have anything nice, there are women who try to appropriate it for themselves.
/r/MGTOW19/06/17 06:38 AM
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if you are a single parent i dont see the problem in having both mothers and fathers day as yours regardless of gender. The problem is that the gynocracy cannot tolerate even the slightest special advantage or recognition or facility for men. Every male-only space gets attacked, feminists are constantly pushing to get women into male sports, male military units, etc. To put it another way, this is a small symptom of a much bigger problem.
/r/MGTOW18/06/17 08:20 PM
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In theory, I agree that manspreading is annoying and needs to be shamed. But it's not a coincidence that men are relentlessly singled out for condemnation. Societally, the "women are wonderful" bias is a lot more destructive and worthy of condemnation than manspreading.
/r/MGTOW18/06/17 11:58 AM
1

I think there's a market for male sex dolls, mainly with gay men.
/r/MGTOW17/06/17 11:35 PM
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Not quite your point, but I think if it came down to it, most girls would sign a prenup if their husband to be had the kind of wealth which motivates people to get prenups. As far as cheating goes, it's kind of a silly question to ask. Cheating and lying kind of go hand-in-hand. I would guess this chick admits to cheating because her cheating story is floating around out there on the internet somewhere.
/r/MGTOW17/06/17 06:23 PM
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If he forgives her, she also usually considers it as permission to keep fucking around. That may very well be true, but male cheaters are the same, i.e. forgiveness = more cheating. The difference is that the male cheater will not despise his wife for tolerating his infidelity.
/r/MGTOW17/06/17 05:53 PM
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As is typical for this type of article, the author dances around some Red Pill truths. For a couple reasons, it is far more dangerous to a marriage for the wife to work around other men than vice versa. For one thing, it's much easier for a typical woman to get sex with an acquaintance or a co-worker than it is for a typical man. For another, even if the husband does have sex with another woman, he can still have feelings for his wife. If a wife cheats her husband though, she will convince herse…
/r/MGTOW17/06/17 12:55 PM
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That's why it's cancer to date or approach wymn. I wouldn't go that far, but I think you need to know what you are getting into.
/r/MGTOW17/06/17 12:31 PM
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Even if they are just family members, and even if she is just using a friend's Tinder account, it demonstrates why girls are so difficult to date nowadays: For girls, finding a man is like ordering a pizza from Dominos or buying a pair of shoes. You just casually flip through the catalog and pick out what you like. Actually it's easier than that -- at least with food or clothing, you have to pay money. With dating, it's easy enough to find a man who will take care of everything.
/r/MGTOW17/06/17 10:18 AM
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There are more women than men now, definitely not a shortage. Nonsense, there are 107 men born for every 100 women. At the upper age ranges, the imbalance probably reverses itself due to womens' longer life expectancies. But that doesn't help, since men's sex instinct is focused on women in fertile age ranges.
/r/MGTOW17/06/17 05:05 AM
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All of my siblings and children are female, so, I guess that's it for my family name. Not that I really care as I have an Ellis Island name.
/r/MGTOW16/06/17 03:46 PM
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Probably she will claim it's "battered woman syndrome"
/r/MGTOW16/06/17 03:38 PM
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/r/upvotedbecausegirl
/r/MGTOW16/06/17 02:05 PM
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Bingo. Every time I thought maybe I was wrong about women being like children, another proved it was true and just reaffirmed it. Yeah, I think women in modern society are like the child-actor who is a miserable brat while filming. That child-actor desperately needs to be spanked but instead people put up with his (or her) BS because they just want to film another episode. In modern society, women have a lot more power than they can handle due to men's desire for sex and female validation combin…
/r/MGTOW16/06/17 08:56 AM
3

What is wrong with women? Nothing, the problem lies in expecting them to act like adults. With a few rare exceptions, they combine adolescent levels of maturity with adult bodies.
/r/MGTOW15/06/17 07:11 PM
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People in general, but especially women, tend to have difficulty understanding and appreciating their own motivations. For example, if you survey a thousand people and ask them how often advertising affects their decision to purchase a product, it will seem like advertising is almost always a complete waste of money. And yet successful companies spend billions of dollars on advertising.
/r/MGTOW15/06/17 01:49 PM
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why are men on this site so shallow and immature? Probably she responds only to messages from men who are tall and handsome. The kind of men who are in a position to make demands about a girl's physical appearance and to jump from girl to girl. Which is why it seems to her that all the men on the site are shallow and immature. Even now after years of getting pumped and dumped, she could easily find a commitment-minded man. That she hasn't suggests that she is just as shallow as the men she compl…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/06/17 08:47 AM
1

Does it matter? Perhaps not.
/r/MGTOW15/06/17 07:38 AM
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What's the difference? Perhaps none. The guy who just likes doing nice things for girls is also hoping for sex, but on a subconscious primordial level.
/r/MGTOW15/06/17 07:38 AM
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Then out of the blue this pathetic white knight on the squat rack next to me stops in the middle of his routine and tells her that she could use his squat rack and proceeds to flirt with her. I suppose it was worth a shot, but I have learned from many years of experience that doing something nice for a girl without getting something in return is one of the surest ways to extinguish any possible sexual interest she may have in you.
/r/MGTOW15/06/17 12:32 AM
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She will get hundreds of replies...that is the worst part Agreed, but how many from guys who think there's a chance of sex, and how many from guys who just like doing nice things for girls?
/r/MGTOW15/06/17 12:26 AM
2

I wonder if there is a rule against woman using the seat beside them as a place to lay their oversized purse. Where I work (NYC), there is a law against this. And occasionally it is enforced.
/r/MensRights14/06/17 08:45 AM
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Probably he has requirements if you want to meet his parents or his buddies.
/r/MGTOW14/06/17 12:58 AM
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80 to 90 % of men are simply not in a position to have a laundry list of requirements. Chad, of course, can have detailed requirements. But for a lot of girls, the bottom 80 to 90 % of men simply don't exist as sexual beings. So a lot of girls probably really do think that men tend to have lots of requirements.
/r/MGTOW14/06/17 12:47 AM
4

One can argue that while she is not a particularly outstanding driver, she is a great NASCAR driver. A large portion of NASCAR fans watch only for the crashes and she is the queen of crashes. Maybe they should change the rules so that every pit stop you have to chug a beer. That might make for some interesting crashes.
/r/MGTOW13/06/17 07:17 PM
2

I drive a mid-size car solely because it offers extra protection in case of collision. That said, I work in New York City so cars are much less a part of peoples' identities here. Very few people I associate with have ever seen my car. If I were single and living in North Carolina, I might very well feel social pressure to drive a car which would impress the ladies.
/r/MGTOW13/06/17 04:54 PM
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I'm not as anti-marriage as the other guys here, but if you have a vasectomy and plan to be childless, getting married is utter insanity. By the way dude, if you are reading this, this story that she cheated you "one day, while I was at work" is also almost certainly a lie. The odds are against getting pregnant from a one-off event and you know this girl is a liar. The more likely scenario is that she has been fucking other guys left and right for the last 5 years and slipped up.
/r/MGTOW13/06/17 09:30 AM
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Christ you guys are gullible. This is such an obvious troll I'm pretty sure it's fake. Women do stuff like this all the time but they don't have the self-awareness to admit it to anyone, even themselves.
/r/MGTOW11/06/17 01:43 PM
2

I don't know, this sounds fake. Yes, I'm 99% sure it's fake. Even the times that weren’t so bad, I inflated them to be worse because, well, to be frank, not everyone was on board with what I had just done. I needed them to be on my side and support me This gives the game away. Women do this all the time of course, but they don't have the self-awareness to admit it to themselves.
/r/MGTOW11/06/17 01:41 PM
1

You might as well move to a technocracy without voting at that point, Sure, I should have said "In a perfect democratic system." The ideal situation is a wise, brilliant, and benevolent dictator. But I would never support setting up such a system since it would be so difficult to ensure that the dictator will live up to the requirements of the job. The advantage with taking away womens' right to vote is that it's a positive step with very little downside.
/r/MGTOW10/06/17 03:40 PM
1

Why discriminate by sex? Why not by landholdings, or by taxable income? Why not by IQ, or by race? Why not indeed. A democracy where men vote and women do not would be an improvement, but it is certainly not the ideal. In a perfect system, the mature, responsible people would vote and everyone else would not. There is a correlation between sex and these things but obviously it is not perfect. If the point of voting is to create the optimal outcome then I'd hazard a guess that gender is not the p…
/r/MGTOW10/06/17 07:29 AM
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unprincipled whores can finally monkey branch. Men monkey-branch too in these types of situations, but nobody tries to claim that he is "just trying to find himself." No, they call it for what it is, that he has more options and he is trading up. And typically he pays dearly for it.
/r/MGTOW09/06/17 07:52 PM
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Sometimes the husband experiences a dramatic rise in his sexual market value, for example he becomes very successful in his career. In those situations, if he leaves his wife, nobody applauds his "courage" in leaving a bad relationship. People call it for what it is -- he has more options so he's moving up.
/r/MGTOW09/06/17 07:50 PM
1

Democracy is pretty simple: one person, one vote. I would have to disagree with this. 12 year old children don't get to vote. It's not a big deal because their parents can and will represent their interests. So too with women. Under male-only suffrage, each household gets 1 vote and the man is entrusted to vote on behalf of the household. Why is this a better system? For one thing, men don't have an in-group bias, i.e. they will not automatically support policies that favor men over women. Women…
/r/MGTOW09/06/17 02:31 PM
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Part of the problem is that women have a tendency to be scatterbrained. They may set out to get the housework done but then get distracted by a telephone call and before you know it, the day is over and the work isn't done.
/r/MGTOW09/06/17 02:22 PM
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in fairness, men and women arent attracted to the same things. a college degree in a guy is the equivalent of an in-shape body on a woman. over $50k/yr is the equivalent of a 8.5/10 face (not that she has one) on a woman. be honest, how many of yall would give a shit about a woman's education level (and not just for the sake of "equality") when considering dating her? I agree with all of that and in principle, I don't have an objection to a girl who wants a man who is better educated than her an…
/r/MGTOW08/06/17 11:39 PM
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He seems like the classic beta. Kind, gentle, hard-working, devoted to his wife and children. He got married before Tinder, Facebook, etc. became a thing. Before his wife started drowning in sexual opportunities. Reading between the lines, it seems like this was a typical situation where "his money is our money; her money is her money."
/r/MGTOW07/06/17 09:54 PM
1

When women gain weight it tends to be side to side rather than front ti back so that obese women are a bigger problem in public transport.
/r/MGTOW07/06/17 07:31 PM
2

Lol it's all the Jews' fault. Even though Jerry Seinfeld is Jewish and Kesha is not. Feminists always twist things around to blame men; Jew-haters always twist things around to blame Jews.
/r/MGTOW07/06/17 03:21 PM
1

Probably either a troll or someone with a fetish.
/r/MGTOW06/06/17 08:59 AM
2

The ridiculous double standard that men are all expected to have very difficult to maintain bodyfat percentages (10-12% seems to be the golden standard for chad), while women are enormous fucking landwhales with no self agency now. Yeah, we live in difficult times if you are not Chad.
/r/MGTOW05/06/17 04:49 PM
3

Don't be stupid PUA doesn't work. Of course it works. If you are an average-looking guy; you make yourself as presentable as possible; and you hit on hundreds or thousands of girls, eventually you will meet one who is DTF. Just be sure to wear a condom.
/r/MGTOW05/06/17 03:58 PM
1

Logic would dictate he should be able to land a woman at a similar level to him, but the game has been poisoned. There's an oversupply of men and in any event, girls date up.
/r/MGTOW05/06/17 03:57 PM
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Yet he's objectively in better physical shape than 60% of the population with good hygiene. :thinking-face: I don't think that's enough to rescue him. Being physically fit is critical for your typical man who wants a girlfriend, not because it has a massive impact on his sexual market value but because things are just crazy competitive for men.
/r/MGTOW05/06/17 03:47 PM
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I would say he's about a 2/10 in appearance and that he loses another half a point or so once he opens his mouth due to his Aspergy vibe. It's not nice to say, but some people are beyond help. This guy's only hope is if he ends up extremely high status, eg he turns out to be the great songwriter of the 21st century.
/r/MGTOW05/06/17 02:32 PM
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Yeah I kinda agree. If an average looking guy (4-6/10) makes himself as presentable as possible and approaches a lot of girls, he has a pretty good chance of getting laid. This guy is very short, has a very small frame, has a very noticeable problem with his eyes, and has a bit of an Aspergy vibe. That is a lot to overcome.
/r/MGTOW05/06/17 01:33 PM
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He must have some weird fetish. Either that or he's gay and he can't quite come out and pull the trigger.
/r/MGTOW05/06/17 01:27 PM
2

Unfortunately it seems there are few places where social mores still exist and women have (good) expectations to follow. Yes, the whole "you go girl" mentality has been spreading like cancer for some time now. But believe it or not, in my town there is only one divorced couple I know of. There are probably at least 30 or 40 couples for who I would hear about it if they got divorced. Anyway, what's interesting is that with this one divorced woman, nobody invites her to any family events. They don…
/r/MGTOW05/06/17 06:43 AM
2

Sometimes in life you have to make the best of a dangerous situation. If it means a lot to you to have children, enough that you are willing to take the risk; or if you are already married, then what? All is not necessarily lost, many marriages don't end in divorce-rape, or with false accusations of domestic abuse. And there do exist things a man can do to improve his odds. I think the main thing is to live in a town or neighborhood with a low divorce rate. Women respond very well to social pres…
/r/MGTOW05/06/17 05:44 AM
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I doubt that, I'd say 95% of men wouldn't date a woman taller than them. I would guess that's more of a pragmatic consideration than an actual preference. If a tall girl who was otherwise acceptable approached a man shorter than her, it's very unlikely he would turn her down. But since it's usually men who do the approaching, they have to decide who to go for and they know that approaching a girl taller than them is almost certainly a waste of time.
/r/MGTOW04/06/17 06:28 PM
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This boggles my mind as there are very few men who are naturally jacked And those who are, tend to be short. Is this woman willing to accept a man who is 5'7" or less?
/r/MGTOW04/06/17 10:53 AM
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Are MGTOW men then lacking that programming or in a sense bypassing it? Yeah, I think they are trying to resist the instinct.
/r/MGTOW03/06/17 08:05 PM
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Men are genetically programmed to value female approval. Most men feel good just doing something nice for m'lady. Not sure why, there must have been some advantage to it in the ancestral environment. Perhaps if a woman is literally on the edge of starvation, her white knight has a good chance of getting some action. Or perhaps, in the ancestral environment, a woman's sexual decisions were made by her father, who would be more likely to give her to a man who did nice things for her.
/r/MGTOW03/06/17 05:11 PM
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Late 20-something to Mid 30's single-mothers -- often divorced, but increasingly never-married -- generally with multiple crotch-spawn from multiple "baby-daddies." Yeah, I have a feeling that when the Church sends its "single Godly women," its not send its best. I'm pretty confident that a Christian girl who is childless, under 30, respects her body, and accepts that her role is to be a good wife and mother and accept her husband's authority will have absolutely no problem finding plenty of sol…
/r/MGTOW03/06/17 03:46 PM
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I was looking at this guy's web site. It seems he claims to be some self-made millionaire who (for a small fee) will teach you to do the same thing. So I would guess this is a marketing ploy of attacking men's masculinity. I had a buddy who worked in a boiler room pitching penny stocks and he was taught to do the same thing.
/r/MGTOW03/06/17 01:57 PM
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I wonder what the demographic profile is of this glut of "single Godly women." I'm going to guess that for the most part they are overweight and way past their prime. Anyway, these sorts of exhortations are not only insulting, they are also not constructive. If you want men to step up and commit, the obvious thing to do is to make commitment a more attractive option for men. And to accomplish that, the exhortations need to be directed at women: Stay in shape; use your youth to attract a man who …
/r/MGTOW03/06/17 07:41 AM
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Yea the lizard brain comment is all i needed to know why she is 50+ and still single People, especially women, have such poor self-awareness.
/r/MGTOW03/06/17 07:26 AM
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I really needed that. I am starting to lose hope sometimes in this subreddit. Unfortunately, most internet discussion boards are either (1) controlled by gynocentric politically correct social justice warriors; or (2) act as magnets for really awful people.
/r/MGTOW02/06/17 07:56 AM
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im curious, what does mgtow think of AMALT (all men are like that)? Pretty much all men have the instinct to misbehave in various ways; the difference is that men are more constrained by laws and social consequences. It's amazing that a woman can cheat on her husband, get pregnant with another man's baby, still get court-awarded child support, invent false accusations of rape or domestic violence, etc., without any real consequences.
/r/MGTOW31/05/17 09:31 PM
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Remember, women don't count 80% of the male population as "guys" Yeah, I think most men would cheat if they had young hotties constantly throwing themselves at them, but your average guy doesn't get those opportunities. In general, women don't really notice men who are not at the top in terms of looks/money/status. When they complain about pay inequality, it never occurs to them that millions of men toil away in dirty, dangerous jobs. When they complain about middle-aged men dating much younger …
/r/MGTOW31/05/17 09:26 PM
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In the same way that feminists blame everything on men, anti-Semites blame everything on the Jews.
/r/MGTOW31/05/17 03:59 PM
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There are probably literally zero black women who fulfill all those standards. I've met a few black girls who are physically fit and childless. They have no problem attracting men who fit all of these criteria. Especially if they get their hair straightened.
/r/MGTOW31/05/17 07:57 AM
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Men of any race face the same problem in dating if they want a girl who is physically fit; childless; and in her child-bearing years. Probably there are 20 men chasing each such girl. It's true that in the black community there is a problem with men being incarcerated. But even so, if a black girl is thin, childless, and in her child-bearing years, she will have no problem attracting men of any race who are interested in marriage.
/r/MGTOW31/05/17 07:53 AM
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Choosing beggars is currently in a war between Health at Every Size zealots and fat haters. It's getting pretty hot over there. Yeah, I got a taste of it a few days ago. HAES types refuse to accept that obesity reduces a girl's romantic market value. Their evidence is that there is a small number of men who prefer fat girls.
/r/MGTOW31/05/17 02:36 AM
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I was watching a video which pointed out that it's a mistake to compare married men with unmarried men. The comparison should be between never-married men and men who were married at some point in the past.
/r/MGTOW30/05/17 09:32 PM
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Have there been ANY movies where the bitch just shuts the fuck up and tags along? I doubt it.. A lot of older war movies, spy movies, and action movies are like this. The key word being "older." It's been getting harder and harder to make a movie without at least one Strong Independent Woman in it. Upthread, I recommended "Hunt for Red October," a cold-war thriller from the 80s. Since most of the action takes place on military vessels, there are very few women in the movie.
/r/MGTOW30/05/17 06:08 PM
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You might try the movie "Hunt for Red October" Most of the movie takes place on military submarines and other naval vessels. And it is set during the Cold War. So basically no girls to speak of
/r/MGTOW30/05/17 12:05 PM
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Lol, what da fuq? Honestly, that article was designed to troll readers and go viral. Yeah, they probably surveyed 1000 girls and cherry-picked the most outrageous quotes.
/r/MGTOW29/05/17 09:41 PM
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I think that in most of these feminist or woman's studies groups, a girl can enjoy enhanced status and credibility if she is the victim of a sexual assault. Combine that with the idea that we mustn't be skeptical of such stories, and it's open season for girls to lie and make stuff up. I know a feminist like this -- she has a story of how a man followed her and tried to rape her and she single-handedly fought him off. Conveniently there are no names or records which could be used to verify this …
/r/MGTOW29/05/17 07:09 PM
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Understandable however you risk giving them props for not doing something negative rather than for actually doing something positive. Yes, well the real question is whether we are trying to reform society or not. Even something simple and defensible like lobbying advertisers to stop running ads which mock, demean, and humiliate men would entail a massive effort with only limited chance of success. On the other hand, even if you are not interested in feminism, feminism is interested in you.
/r/MGTOW29/05/17 04:07 PM
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Women do this already but only post wall. I would have to disagree. For the most part, women are not capable of going their own way in the sense of leading life independent of the opposite sex. They need male support or guidance or both. The idea of the "strong independent woman" is just a fantasy.
/r/MGTOW29/05/17 12:22 AM
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I think it does happen pretty regularly that middle-aged men rise in wealth and status and then dump their long-term wives for someone younger. What percentage of divorces are the result of this phenomenon is a question that's not so easy to answer. But from the point of view of MGTOW, it's not such a big deal. The law is set up such that if a man decides to go that route, he will pay for it and his wife will be covered financially. In fact, most men who are in this position feel a sense of obli…
/r/MGTOW28/05/17 08:09 PM
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I doubt that MGTOW will have much of an impact as a social movement. Barring any big changes in technology, if a large percentage of men started going MGTOW, women would have to start treating the remaining men better, so they will be less likely to go MGTOW. So it's naturally self-limiting. Same thing with feminism actually, it's anti-natalist and therefore naturally self-limiting. Barring any big changes in technology, the future is looking pretty traditionalist. That said, it's almost certain…
/r/MGTOW28/05/17 06:57 PM
1

Pretty much every subreddit is feminist with a few exceptions. If you don't believe me, try posting a truthful comment which contradicts the feminist narrative and see what kind of a response you get. Reddit is full of thirsty men desperate for female approval and women who have been told their whole lives that they are at least as good as men in every meaningful way. From a larger societal perspective, there have always been MGTOWs. As for feminism, it is anti-natalist and therefore self-correc…
/r/MGTOW28/05/17 03:40 PM
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lol @ pants XD Heh, I prefer girls who wear skirts or dresses. I think it looks nice and it gives me a glimmer of hope that the girl understands she is not a man. I've never had the necessary sexual market power to make lots of detailed demands like your typical Tinder ho', but if I did, that would be one of my requirements.
/r/MGTOW28/05/17 01:44 PM
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You mean they start seeing the approaching wall and pretend they can settle for less than what they think they're worth. What I mean is that in the past, women were more marriage-minded when they went out on dates and a lot fewer women were focused on just getting laid without any kind of relationship. Nowadays, it's much more acceptable and encouraged for girls to just have sex for fun with no real intent of having a relationship. They may still have a small hope, deep down, that Chad will fall…
/r/MGTOW28/05/17 12:52 PM
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They all think Chad is going to marry THEM though. While this thought is probably still present, I think that over time, it's become of less and less significance in womens' brains.
/r/MGTOW28/05/17 10:17 AM
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TBH the girls I see in their late 20s are already starting to wrinkle around the eyes and get gray hair. Yes, it varies from girl to girl but if you look at girls who wear little or no makeup, it's actually pretty common to start getting crows' feet and bags under their eyes after age 25.
/r/MGTOW28/05/17 09:50 AM
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It's fake, but it could be real. Yeah, I think a large percentage of women have thoughts along those lines.
/r/MGTOW28/05/17 09:43 AM
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And of course, did any of these women actually build the business? Generally not. It's extremely rare for a woman, acting alone, to start with a shoestring budget and a vague idea and build a successful business from scratch. If you look closely at a woman-owned business, almost inevitably there is a husband, father, or brother lurking in the background who is the one actually responsible for things. Which is fine, there's nothing fundamentally bad about being dependent on other people. I just w…
/r/MGTOW28/05/17 09:31 AM
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It's a good thought. That must be a huge reality check, and I wonder how many can navigate the change successfully. I think the key is to derive a sense of value from being a good and respected wife and mother.
/r/MGTOW27/05/17 11:51 PM
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What pisses me off the most is how this information is suppressed from the mainstream Yes, I think it's especially bad for young men who don't realize just how badly the game is rigged against them. And really for young women too since they are led to believe that the shower of attention they receive is normal and natural and should never end.
/r/MGTOW27/05/17 05:17 PM
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I think part of the problem is that when a girl is in her 20s and early 30s, men defer to her and pretend that they are interested in what she has to say. Because men are programmed to seek approval from girls they are sexually attracted to. I think a lot of women get used to this deference, and have difficulty adjusting when it evaporates. Which is why (in my opinion) there are such huge rates of depression among middle aged women.
/r/MGTOW27/05/17 05:14 PM
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Why is this so hard for them to understand? A lot of people, especially women but some men too, have difficulty understanding facts that make them feel bad. In this case, the fact is that men's preference for youth and beauty in women is just as legitimate as women's preference for wealth, status, height, strong jaw, etc. in men.
/r/MGTOW27/05/17 01:49 PM
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Old women are hideous and act like children. Young women aren't so great either, it's just that men are programmed to put up with their nonsense in hopes of getting laid.
/r/MGTOW27/05/17 01:44 PM
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Even though he doesn’t realize it, deep down in his lizard brain, when a man asks a woman how old you are, they really don’t want to know your age, they want to know how many eggs you have left. Sheesh, why does she think that women ask men what their jobs are? Because deep down in their "lizard brain," they want to know how much money and status he has. I'd be willing to bet a LOT of money that even now, this women would not be willing to date an otherwise decent man who was lacking in looks/mo…
/r/MGTOW27/05/17 01:40 PM
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Part of it is that to have a strong lead, the person needs to start with little or no value; endure misfortune, humiliation, and adversity; and face these things and have accomplishments. In our gynocentric society, women automatically have value even if they accomplish nothing. On top of that both feminists and traditionalists would get outraged if a woman is depicted as being stomped on and humiliated. (Movies where women are harmed are called "horror movies" because it's considered horrifying…
/r/MGTOW26/05/17 08:41 AM
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Yes, in a healthy society the consensus should be that a man has the right and duty to exert authority over his wife and that mild corporal punishnent is fine.
/r/MGTOW26/05/17 01:59 AM
1

The pitch I used to hear online was that the girl was a senior in college and she didn't have the money to finish her last year and get her degree. Actually, you could probably make a pretty good living by catfishing thirsty dudes and asking them for money.
/r/MGTOW25/05/17 03:38 PM
1

I enjoy having internet and cable television at home but if money were that tight, I would cancel it.
/r/MGTOW25/05/17 03:35 PM
3

Talking to a woman is like talking to a spy. Yeah, I know a couple girls who can keep secrets but they are both very boyish. If a person wears make-up ever day and watches the Kardashians, they can't be trusted with confidential information.
/r/MGTOW25/05/17 03:24 PM
3

Therefore, women expending time and sexual availability to one man with no guaranteed reimbursement is inefficient and risky due to sunk cost and opportunity cost. That's why there are no women in the friendzone. It seems to me you could say the same thing about men. Men are programmed to try to spread their seed. So why would a man invest substantial time and energy in a girl with no guaranteed reimbursement, i.e. a good possibility of sex? Besides, in my general experience, it's usually not th…
/r/MGTOW25/05/17 02:31 PM
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It's interesting that in male/female friendships, typically one party wants to have sex with the other and it's usually the man who wants sex with the girl and not vice versa. So why are there so few friendships where it's the girl who wants to f*ck the man? I once had a friendship like this -- with a girl who was pretty much a drinking buddy but was kind of old and unattractive. She was interested in me but not vice versa. I think the reason is that in general, women don't have a lot to offer i…
/r/MGTOW25/05/17 10:28 AM
1

I don't watch the show much but I remember an episode where a girl came on wearing an extremely short skirt and Judge Judy called her out on it. So it could simply be that she has a problem with attractive young women. Some older women are like that. In general, women have in-group bias and society does very little to discourage it. So it's pretty unusual to meet a woman in a position of authority who stands up for men.
/r/MGTOW24/05/17 11:37 PM
2

I don't watch the show much but I remember an episode where a girl came on wearing an extremely short skirt and Judge Judy called her out on it. So it could simply be that she has a problem with attractive young women. Some older women are like that. In general, women have in-group bias and society does very little to discourage it. So it's pretty unusual to meet a woman in a position of authority who stands up for men.
/r/MGTOW24/05/17 11:37 PM
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"I find the stuff you say about women offensive. As a side note, this is an aspect of gynocentrism which I think deserves more attention: You aren't supposed to say things which might hurt womens' feelings.
/r/MGTOW24/05/17 10:05 AM
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Doubt this is real. Honestly looks like it was a porn with some back story and some idiot took it as a real event. Yeah, I'm kinda skeptical too. The story seems too close to a cuckoldry fantasy; the girl seems to be dressed in classic "porn star conservative." I don't watch porn anymore, but if I did, I would go to one of those porn sites and search for bachelorette party; I think there's a pretty good chance of finding that video.
/r/MGTOW24/05/17 09:52 AM
2

They do mature faster but it stops at ages 16-18. That's why they act like children no matter what age. Yes, I basically agree. A fully mature woman is less mature than a fully mature man. I think everyone is subconsciously aware of this fact and adjusts expectations accordingly. Which is why you have to open your eyes a bit to realize just how immature adult women are.
/r/MGTOW23/05/17 04:42 PM
3

All the nasty snobby behavior you see from women on Tinder and IRL is caused by them being front-loaded with all of their power very early in life That and the fact that they have been liberated to make their own sexual decisions. And told that it's a-ok to just follow your tingles.
/r/MGTOW23/05/17 04:32 PM
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I love these scenarios where women create their own misery and then complain as if they had nothing to do with them. For me what does it is that young women have such contempt for men they deem unattractive.
/r/MGTOW23/05/17 04:31 PM
2

They dont mature faster. That would mean their rate of growth is faster by definition. Starting puberty earlier =/= faster maturation I would say that women are quicker to reach their adult level of maturity than men. But those ultimate levels of maturity are not equal.
/r/MGTOW23/05/17 04:29 PM
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Keep in mind that these are the same women who in our 20's dated older guys and had little sympathy for use 20 something year old men who were striking out with women our age. I think it's more than a lack of sympathy, it's utter contempt. Especially such men dare to actually pursue girls they find interesting.
/r/MGTOW23/05/17 04:24 PM
2

Part of the point of this sub is to criticize and laugh about characteristically female behavior. This includes their behavior in seeking and choosing mates.
/r/MGTOW23/05/17 09:46 AM
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Most women absolutely positively refuse to marry a man with a lower income than them. Marriages where the woman out-earns the man have a shockingly high incidence of female infidelity and divorce.
/r/MGTOW22/05/17 05:03 PM
1

I am in good shape per doctor's orders, but from a social perspective the problem is that a fit man attracts girls.
/r/MGTOW21/05/17 08:41 PM
5

I just found it on that sub so I don't know if it's real or not but what makes you think it's fake? First, because of Bayes' theorem. How often do well known athletes rape people? Even if the top 100 athletes rape girls on a regular basis, it's still far more common that random people make up stories online to get attention. Second, the story seems calculated to outrage based on the trope of the handsome and charming athlete who is actually a rapist. And by the girl's admission that she made mis…
/r/MGTOW21/05/17 06:11 PM
1

I've always heard that the US actually isn't the most obese nation: I believe that the article survey in question is only about countries over a certain level of economic development.
/r/MGTOW21/05/17 03:11 PM
2

Good points Thanks. If I'm not mistaken, the BMI cutoff used to be 2 units higher for men than for women.
/r/MGTOW20/05/17 11:47 PM
1

Someone should put up a sticky post to warn new subscribers/posters. It's all kind of ridiculous -- I was automatically subscribed to that sub.
/r/MGTOW20/05/17 08:23 AM
5

I think that the biggest problem with male sexbots for women is that in choosing sexual/romantic partners, women are far more interested in social status. (A high status man can have his pick of girls even if he is physically unattractive; the reverse is not true.) In the future, sexbots may offer affection, sex, and companionship, but it's hard to see how they could offer social status.
/r/MGTOW19/05/17 09:32 AM
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What employer would hire her? People don't seem to appreciate how easy life is for pretty girls. She will get so many job offers she won't know what to do with them.
/r/MGTOW18/05/17 10:06 PM
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Yeah I have a divorced neighbor like that. She is set financially but refuses to date men who are not wealthy. Whatever it is that the woman values in life, she needs a man who is superior to her in that value. So if she values money, she needs a man who is richer than her. The only possible exception is physical attractiveness. A girl who is obsessed with beauty will often prefer to be the more attractive half of a couple.
/r/MGTOW18/05/17 12:38 PM
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Nice analysis, although I think the line between wealth and social status is blurry at best
/r/MGTOW18/05/17 10:19 AM
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They should have made it the "pretty" cartoon character, i.e. the salesgirl, who tries to screw him out of his fortune.
/r/MGTOW18/05/17 10:08 AM
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It doesn't seem so terrible to me. As a group, women are not capable of creating wealth so feminism has always been about getting men to cough up the goodies they want and need. If automation makes men obsolete, then feminists will be truly free to go their own way and leave men alone.
/r/MGTOW17/05/17 10:28 PM
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In all fairness, I see men do this too. Especially if they are courting another woman. Well there's a general human tendency to spin stories in self-serving ways. But I think it's much more pronounced in women when describing their romantic relationships than in men. Imagine if someone posted a similar story with the sexes reversed - a man leaves his wife for another girl and then regrets it without any blaming of his wife; accepting responsibility for the situation. It would be plausible that i…
/r/MGTOW17/05/17 06:57 PM
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The end goal is the same but the method is not. Sure, but that's not the issue on the table. The claim I was addressing was that at some point in the past, feminism was "noble" in some significant way. I don't think feminism is or ever was noble regardless of which strain or faction one is looking at. Any strain or faction of feminism is going to have the same basic issues: in-group bias combined with an inability to create wealth independently.
/r/MGTOW17/05/17 03:09 AM
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In all honesty, even women don't know what women want I agree, which is why I said "perceived self-interests."
/r/MGTOW17/05/17 02:57 AM
1

I would say it's important not to lump all early feminists into one group. You had many different groups with different goals, and these groups spent as much time fighting amongst themselves as they did the government and society. I would have to disagree. For purposes of this discussion, pretty much all feminists are the same and have always been the same, i.e. their primary motivation is to seek wealth, power, and status for women at the expense of men. There may be factionalization and disagr…
/r/MGTOW17/05/17 02:56 AM
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Those factors are accounted for with the stated population Show me proof please. TIA. Brexit was technically a non-binding referendum Was Brexit commonly believed to be non-binding in advance of the vote? If you can only vote for or against a single proposition, deciding not to vote is a passive way of voting against something. :shrug: The results are in on my non-binding referendum. It turns out that 100% of Americans don't want any prisoners to remain in jail. P.S. Are you disputing that woman…
/r/MGTOW17/05/17 02:51 AM
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Not really, if less than five percent of the given population even decided to vote on that matter, it indicates it's not a very important matter to them whatsoever Not necessarily, it depends how well the vote was publicized; what requirements there were to vote; whether the vote actually meant anything etc. I did my own Google search and it seems that in this case, it was a "non-binding" referendum. It's reasonable to suppose that a lot of people had little interest in going through the trouble…
/r/MGTOW17/05/17 12:35 AM
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It manifested itself in waves to be honest. Men who were colonizing out west (modern-day Wyoming area) were feeling lonely and wanted to incentivize women to move out West with them by granting them voting rights. However, initially women didn't really want the right to vote, especially those apart of the mainland as stated here . From your source: IN 1895 the women of Massachusetts were asked by the state whether they wished the suffrage. Of the 575,000 voting women in the state, only 22,204 ca…
/r/MGTOW16/05/17 11:48 PM
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The joke of it all is that this girl would have been a lot better off if she'd received some criticism and negative feedback during her life. Instead, she's so good looking that she can get away with stuff.
/r/MGTOW16/05/17 07:56 PM
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Men are taught from birth to take responsibility. If you have a problem, either do something about it or STFU. Which is fortunate, because if men stopped taking responsibility and just demanded that other people solve their problems, civilization would collapse within a few months. There are actually very few women who are capable of rolling up their sleeves and solving a challenging problem. Normally their response is to try to get a man to solve the problem. In the case of obesity, the solutio…
/r/MGTOW16/05/17 07:52 PM
1

A little tid-bit on women's suffrage history, most women didn't want the right to vote, because they were afraid that would mandate then to doing required military service. I'm kinda skeptical of that that given that a majority of men supported female suffrage. Do you have a source?
/r/MGTOW16/05/17 07:46 PM
1

When I was thinking about feminism, I had this image of a pendulum. Not sure what that analogy has to do with the motivations of feminists.
/r/MGTOW16/05/17 06:54 PM
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I hate to say it but if google is using machine learning to detect gender bias and google finds the lack of gender bias this could potentially be your biggest ally. The fact is that there is a lot of gender bias in movies -- against men. It's much more common for men to be the victims of violence; to be humiliated; to be made to look stupid by more intelligent women; and so on. In fact, that's probably the ultimate reason for feminist complaints about the lack of interesting female characters. F…
/r/MGTOW16/05/17 02:05 PM
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I'm surprised Tinder doesn't make men upload a copy of their previous years taxes. I think that there are dating sites where male participants have to prove that they have a 6-figure income.
/r/MGTOW16/05/17 12:35 PM
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You need to start somewhere, and either point is valid if the other follows through. I'm not sure what your point is here. We're talking about a historical question -- the motivations of the feminist movement. Was there some time in the past when feminism was primarily motivated by universal principles? Or was it always just about grabbing power and resources for women at the expense of men? I think it's the second choice. Because as far as I know, the vast vast majority of feminists have NEVER …
/r/MGTOW16/05/17 11:16 AM
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It's nothing to do with feminism and everything to do with gynocratic society. Feminism is just another outcome of it, I think this is probably correct. Consider the "lost boys of Mormonism," i.e. young men who are expelled from polygamous towns for the slightest infractions. These towns have very little feminism and yet young men are treated extremely poorly. We need to avoid the misconception that there was some glorious past in which all men had it great and all women were oppressed. For all …
/r/MGTOW15/05/17 03:35 PM
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That's not my impression, but I do think a lot of the men here like to poke fun at feminist bullsh*t, for example the ideas that there's something wrong with men for preferring thin girls to fat girls; that this is due to brainwashing by the Patriarchy; that being fat is a condition people have no control over; etc.
/r/MGTOW15/05/17 09:13 AM
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I don't have a problem with girls who insist on a man who is financially successful, but they shouldn't complain if the man insists on having a girl who is physically fit, young, childless, and hasn't been slutting it up.
/r/MGTOW14/05/17 09:01 PM
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Looks like he got off easy. The dam fool. Yeah, the usual way this sort of story ends is that the husband finds out down the road that his children are not actually his. But he still has to pay child support.
/r/MGTOW13/05/17 03:18 PM
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I guess men have evolved to be really really good at detecting signs of fertility in a woman.
/r/MGTOW12/05/17 11:45 PM
1

If you take them at the most logical place they could be coming from, the concern would be that this emboldens rapists — it gives them practice to move onto real women. I could actually imagine a world where that's possible if the sex robots aren't that good. There might be many years where there's a mixture of data — some rapists get all that energy out on the doll, some get hungrier for the real thing. How studies are set up leads to different conclusions, just like the data with video games a…
/r/MGTOW12/05/17 03:51 PM
1

I think most of those public proposals at sporting events are staged fakery.
/r/MGTOW12/05/17 03:47 PM
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please, stop being naive... many of them know, how couldn't they... It's a fact that most people don't understand their own motivations. This is true of both men and women but it's especially strong in women. So for example, if an unattractive man tries to strike up a conversation with a girl in a public place, she will complain to her girlfriends that he approached while she was in an elevator; or wearing headphones; or at the gym; or whatever. Meanwhile, if Chad does the same thing, she will a…
/r/MGTOW12/05/17 03:42 PM
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Even then a sound 40 y o woman will have her pick of dudes 45+. I would have to disagree with this. I do agree that a girl of age 40, who is in shape, can get laid no problem and can probably get some marriage proposals. But her romantic market value has taken a huge hit from where it was 20 years earlier. It's not that the wall has moved; it's that there is a big shortage of women -- at all age ranges -- who are not obese.
/r/MGTOW12/05/17 10:40 AM
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I think this is all a sh*t test. Women may complain if their husbands don't help out much with baby stuff or housework, but they won't despise their husbands or file divorce over it. On the other hand, if the man's income starts to slip, especially if it's less than that of his wife, then he can expect some serious trouble.
/r/MGTOW11/05/17 05:30 PM
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If she is working 50 hours a week and I work 50 hours I would say it would be different. Even then, the man's 50 hour a week job usually entails a much longer commute; more stress; and less pleasant working conditions. And even if those things are the same, chances are that the man is busting his ass trying to get promoted. Because a woman may gripe if her husband does not help out with housework, but she won't file divorce over it. If he makes less money than her, that's a different story.
/r/MGTOW11/05/17 05:28 PM
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I think the male equivalent of monkey branching is plate spinning, i.e. seeing multiple girls at the same time. And yes, men with options have a tendency to plate-spin just like girls with options have a tendency to monkey branch. The difference is that in this day and age, your typical girl has a lot more options than your typical man. In the younger age ranges, there are a lot more men than women in most Western countries. And men tend to date down in age which exacerbates the imbalance. The u…
/r/MGTOW11/05/17 12:03 AM
2

I'd like to ask her: Why is it that you prefer to do camping and other outdoor activities with boys as opposed to doing them with girls?
/r/MGTOW10/05/17 05:38 PM
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Yeah my wife pulls sh*t like that all the time. I gave her money to pay for work on the house and she blew it on manicures and other nonsense. For the most part, women lack a sense of honor. If you give a man money to hold for someone, he will feel a sense of obligation to hold the money for that purpose. For the most part women do not feel that sense of obligation. They might still act honorably out of a fear of consequences or because they agree with the underlying purpose, but not out of a se…
/r/MGTOW10/05/17 04:07 PM
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I don't have a problem with universities trying to balance their sex ratios by tweaking admissions standards. My problem is when people try to pretend that girls are just as good as boys in math type subjects and any disparity must be due to discrimination.
/r/MGTOW10/05/17 12:43 PM
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That does not guarantee that she won't cheat on you in the marriage or that she will not divorce.Virginity by itself is not important. I kinda agree. In fact, if you are her first and only and she is surrounded by slts (and there are slts everywhere), she'll start feeling like she missed out. What promotes having a good relationship is if she feels you are her best option. Then the hamster wheels will spin towards bonding.
/r/MGTOW10/05/17 12:39 PM
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I disagree. If you're the first guy to make her orgasm, she will pair bond with you much harder than some dude who ejaculated in her in high school. I would say it's a matter of female hypergamy. If, as a man, you are at the level of the men she had before or higher (in terms of dick size, income, or whatever else it is she values) then there's no problem. Otherwise, it's a big problem.
/r/MGTOW10/05/17 12:36 PM
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There's a height requirement for sperm donors though. That's gynocracy It's more capitalism than gynocracy, I think. There's no government requirement which sets a minimum height. If you are shopping for an egg donor, I'm pretty sure you can reject potential donors who are overweight.
/r/MGTOW10/05/17 12:32 PM
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Obvious troll is obvious. Yes, either a troll or a fetishist. Or parody.
/r/MGTOW09/05/17 11:40 AM
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I actually have to give this woman props for that very accurate description. a lot of them will never accept admit that it works that way Yeah, I actually think that a lot of these matter-of-fact comments about the Wall are actually men pretending to be women. This one seems legit, but I think that usually when women talk about the Wall, they are a good deal more emotional and finger-pointy about it.
/r/MGTOW09/05/17 09:28 AM
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It's a good reason to be careful about marrying, but I wouldn't call these girls post-wall; I would call them "fat."
/r/MGTOW09/05/17 09:21 AM
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I agree with you to some extent; most Western women have absolutely no idea just how privileged and sheltered and protected they are. That said, going through the experience of "the wall" must be pretty bad. Roughly the equivalent of being a wealthy man, used to a life of comfort, slowly losing most of his money in the stock market.
/r/MGTOW07/05/17 03:21 PM
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I don't think MGTOW is bad for society; there is already an overabundance of men ready to f*ck; impregnate; and support pretty much any girl who is fertile. So if some percentage of men decide it's not worth it due to the risks of divorce-rape, paternity fraud, false rape allegations, etc., I doubt it will have much of an impact. In fact, there have been men going their own way for hundreds or thousands of years. Frontiersmen; monks; etc. Society has made it through fine.
/r/MGTOW06/05/17 10:39 PM
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I think there's a lot of truth to that. It reminds me of television shows and movies made for children: Frequently, the adults in those movies are portrayed as really stupid. It's also interesting that the women portrayed in the advert you linked to are all clearly post-wall, presumably that's the demographic the ad is aimed at. At the same time, the men being humiliated are all young and attractive. So the message of the ad goes a bit further than "you are superior to men," it's more like "you …
/r/MGTOW06/05/17 08:47 AM
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What I hate the most are the ads where a husband is depicted as a fat bumbling loser idiot while his brilliant wife shows him up by choosing whatever product is being advertised. What's interesting is that advertisements aimed at men -- for beer, cars, auto parts, whatever -- are almost never mean-spirited towards women in this way. What the hell is wrong with women that they respond to ads which mock, humiliate, and demean men?
/r/MGTOW05/05/17 07:13 PM
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For once, I'd like to see a tv commercial where it's the women who are ridiculed and it's the man who is the target of multiple womens' desire.
/r/MGTOW05/05/17 07:08 PM
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I wonder who that commercial is aimed at? I think that the unspoken message is this: "girls, KFC always there to comfort you just like a good beta orbiter is there to be your emotional tampon when you need him."
/r/MGTOW05/05/17 05:03 PM
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Why didn't women go nuts over shit like frozen food and washing machines? I think it's because at a very deep instinctive level, women realize that their primary value to society lies in sex and reproduction. As long as they have a lock on these things, it doesn't really matter if other traditionally feminine tasks are automated. In fact, it helps women since it means they have less work to do as wives.
/r/MGTOW04/05/17 11:50 PM
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and then everyone clapped Yes, except that first there was shocked silence; then one person started slow clapping; then more and more people joined in, until there was thunderous applause and a standing ovation.
/r/MGTOW03/05/17 05:19 PM
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The only exception would be the one who get off by making someone suffer intentionally I think that even those people would be deterred for the most part by watching bondage type porn. See, feminists have been claiming for years that "rape is about power, not about sex." But again, the actual facts contradict their claim: The statistics show that rapists have a strong tendency to target women who are under 30, i.e. the women who are more sexually attractive. In other words, rape really is about …
/r/MGTOW03/05/17 01:42 PM
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Yeah I think that pretty much all women have the instict to (1) f*ck Chad behind their husband's back; and (2) dump their husband for a better provider. Just like most men have the instinct to dump their wife for some young hottie. What stops people from doing this stuff are social pressure and legal consequences. And that's the real problem here: Our gynocentric society is stripping away the incentives which keep women in line.
/r/MGTOW03/05/17 01:15 PM
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Men having an outlet for their basic physiological need for sex absolutely drops the rates of sexual assault and rape. Yes, it's both funny and sad: Feminists are not actually against rape; it's just a useful tool to gain political power for women.
/r/MGTOW03/05/17 12:16 AM
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Insurance is not a bad analogy. Everyone with an ounce of common sense knows that you buy life insurance when you are young and healthy. That's when insurers are eager to write you a policy. When you are older and have started developing serious health problems, life insurance is much more difficult to get, if it's available at all. Only a flaming solipsist would think it makes sense to wait to buy life insurance until you develop health problems. Because such a person has no consideration at al…
/r/MGTOW02/05/17 07:13 PM
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She doesn't look that bad without makeup,defo better than others I agree with the others that in the "no make-up" picture, she quite possibly still is wearing make-up.
/r/MGTOW02/05/17 06:09 PM
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It's funny that they blur her face. Even after this shocking act of betrayal against her husband, her employer, and her country -- literally sleeping with the enemy -- she's still being sheltered from the consequences of her misbehavior. What's also funny is that for most people, this is shocking but not surprising. Women do this sort of thing all the time.
/r/MGTOW02/05/17 01:25 PM
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I have no idea what churches those would be, I would imagine that for the most part, these types of religious institutions are not very welcoming to outsiders. Which makes sense -- they realize that they have a cultural oasis in the middle of a vast desert. Why would they jeopardize that by opening the door to outside influences?
/r/MGTOW01/05/17 09:14 PM
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The whitewashing of women's errors & bad judgement by some church "leaders" (as cited specifically and with clear evidence by Dalrock) is just more of the same, and is ridiculous. I agree, and that's exactly why "marry a Christian girl" is not necessarily a solution to modern gynocentrism. If you are going to go the religious route, you need to marry a girl whose Church unequivocally condemns female misbehavior AND who stands to lose socially if her Church disapproves of her.
/r/MGTOW01/05/17 06:35 PM
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I think what it comes down to is that just about everyone -- male or female -- will misbehave now and then if they can get away with it. Since our gynocentric culture keeps watering down the consequences of female misbehaviour, the floodgates are open to female mischief.
/r/MGTOW01/05/17 01:05 PM
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I think it's not enough for her to be religious, she must also live in a community which shames women who misbehave. Because that's the real problem here: There a plenty of negative consequences for men who engage in traditionally male forms of misbehavior. So for example if a man tries to father a child and not support it, the full power of the state will come down on him to seize his income and assets. At the same time, the law has been watered down to eliminate any negative consequences for t…
/r/MGTOW01/05/17 12:59 PM
2

I'm thankful my son wants to go to a technical college, where women are rare. I'll still have to give him plenty of warnings, though I think that the most important two things are (1) make sure you and the girl are both sober when you start having sex; and (2) wait to have sex until you are reasonably confident that the girl is not batshit crazy. Both these things can be difficult for a lot of young men who are eager to get laid, but having read a lot of reports, it seems that the vast majority …
/r/MGTOW30/04/17 01:13 PM
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What's frightening about these campus sexual assault allegations is that the colleges seem to ignore the circumstantial evidence of innocence. So for example, in a situation where the man asserts that sex was consensual and produces a text message from the girl saying she had a great time, you would think that would be the end of the story. And yet a lot of the time, it isn't.
/r/MGTOW30/04/17 10:25 AM
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It's funny, I was always pretty skeptical of Fibromyalgia but I didn't know until today that 90% of diagnoses are women. I wonder what the incidence rate of Fibromylagia is in countries where there is nothing to be gained from a diagnosis -- no disability payments; no time off work; etc.
/r/MGTOW29/04/17 03:08 PM
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I was reading somewhere that in the NBA, every year they take aside the new players and teach them the facts of life: That there are a large number of girls who follow NBA teams around, hoping to seduce an NBA player and get an 18-year meal ticket.
/r/MGTOW29/04/17 09:30 AM
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I agree, it looks fake to me. I think that a lot of guys watch so much internet porn that they get bored of conventional pornography and start looking to satisfy weird fetishes; one such fetish is the idea of the cheating wife.
/r/MGTOW29/04/17 09:23 AM
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What makes it worse is western women are being raised to think this illogical way of thinking is perfectly fine. Yes, it's natural instinct for girls to ignore or even hate men who are not in the top 20% of looks; part of the point of society and civilization is to push people away from their more destructive instincts. In this regard, society is failing girls.
/r/MGTOW28/04/17 07:13 PM
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That means it's not so fake after all. No, there are a lot of people out there who are hypocritical in this way. And 95% of them are girls.
/r/MGTOW28/04/17 07:06 PM
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Somewhere here I read the clever point that if you don't want her to leave you due to your sickness, buy disability insurance.
/r/MGTOW27/04/17 07:57 AM
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That's a reasonable guess considering where we are :) Take if from a married guy: The financial bleeding starts quick and never ends. In fact, I remember when I got married, I was immediately presented with the payment tickets for my wife's student loans.
/r/MGTOW26/04/17 10:53 PM
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Not a lifetime, only until you get divorce raped. Lol, I take it you have never been married.
/r/MGTOW26/04/17 10:19 PM
2

Actually it might be a good idea to promote women's rights in enemy countries like North Korea.
/r/MGTOW26/04/17 07:59 AM
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:shrug: She's claiming status to which she is not entitled. By insisting that she is "beautiful" when in fact she is ugly. If I claimed to be a medal of honor recipient when in fact I had never served in the military a day in my life, people would be rightly annoyed, especially people who had actually served. Fundamentally, this is no different -- she is devaluing people who put a lot of effort into staying fit and who are actually attractive. Besides which, she knows perfectly well that she is …
/r/MGTOW25/04/17 06:39 PM
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It must be pretty traumatic to be highly valued because of your looks and then to lose your looks. So I kinda feel bad for women about that, except that traditional society had a solution for this problem -- marry young, devote yourself to your husband and children, and society will value you for fulfilling your role as a wife and mother.
/r/MGTOW25/04/17 03:33 PM
2

You must be fun at parties. Yes, but only after a couple beers.
/r/MGTOW25/04/17 01:01 PM
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Funny, but I would have given it to her. It's not a matter of hate, it's a matter of not wanting to feed their already overinflated sense of entitlement.
/r/MGTOW25/04/17 02:51 AM
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The article would be cute if marriage weren't so dangerous for men.
/r/MGTOW24/04/17 07:24 PM
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There's no big difference between a man using a sex doll and a woman using a vibrator, except that the man is superior technology. The big difference is that the main thing a woman brings to a relationship is sex; the main things the man brings are money, status, charisma, and the ability to do get things done.
/r/MGTOW24/04/17 07:20 PM
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"The moral of this story: If you are a man and go to college now, STAY away from women. Your future depends on it. " Or you could just avoid casual sex. I think most of the problem is that college girls are told that casual sex is a-ok even though deep down they know it's not okay. That and the fact that a large percentage of girls refuse to take responsibility for their decisions.
/r/MGTOW24/04/17 07:13 PM
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Well she says that she met the new guy after leaving the old marriage. Are you just assyning she's lying can you not read? Yeah, I think she's lying based on the other information in her story and my general experience.
/r/MGTOW24/04/17 03:08 PM
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succubus What a great word.
/r/MGTOW24/04/17 01:39 PM
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No. Obviously with rich and prominent People women cant really upgrade anymore but still cheat. I think one needs to ask why women have the evolutionary instinct to cheat. And there are basically two reasons: First, to find a better mate; and second, to find better sperm donor. Of course there's no guarantee against infidelity, but it's a good deal less likely in situations where there's no evolutionary pressure to do so.
/r/MGTOW24/04/17 07:20 AM
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It's a bit odd, but women are hypergamous, i.e. they are attracted to men who are above them in status. And being nice is an indication of low status. In the ancestral environment, low status men had to be nice to avoid getting in trouble with tribal leadership. Conversely, high status men could get away with being jerks. The upshot of this is that most girls really do have some degree of sexual preference for jerks over nice guys.
/r/MGTOW24/04/17 06:29 AM
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I wonder if she's ever left her smartphone in an airplane bathroom. My guess is it's never happened.
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 12:59 PM
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Yeah, there do exist girls who are quite good at math compared to the general population but they still can't compete with the top boys. Not even close. This is yet another area where our gynocentric culture discourages people from facing reality.
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 08:10 AM
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you see that's the thing, If i say that, they will say np. In that case, I would just go along with it. The realistic worst case scenario is that you live with an annoying wife for a few years while she pops out a few children, then you bail. In fact, you can explain to the girl up front that you're not sure how serious you are, this is mainly to keep your parents happy. Probably there are plenty of Indian girls who would take this deal as a chance to move to Canada.
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 08:07 AM
1

She might agree to it; doesn't mean she actually would. Actions, not words... You have her put it in writing.
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 08:03 AM
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I think if the woman thinks you have top-of-the-line genetics, you're pretty safe. She still won't love you for who you are, but if she thinks she's reached the top branch, she's unlikely to cheat you.
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 12:37 AM
2

I disagree with your anti-natalism, but anyway, you might try telling your doctor that your job exposes you to a lot of radiation and your employer has already paid for you to bank some sperm.
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 12:29 AM
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Your parents should be willing to unconditionally guarantee that they will absorb any financial hit which comes from you marrying, i.e. the cost of getting a larger place; subsidizing your income; child support in the event of divorce; and college tuition.
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 12:24 AM
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If she wants you to have children, she should agree to pay you a reasonable supplement to cover the extra housing costs, the possibility of child support, etc. I would like my kids to reproduce so I can be a grandfather, but if I pressured them to do it, I would back up my request with cash.
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 12:17 AM
2

I have a teenage niece who is both interesting to talk to and also keeps her promises . . . . it makes me worry that she's a lesbian.
/r/MGTOW22/04/17 11:57 PM
5

I think one could reasonably define "marrigeable" as (1) sufficiently fertile to bear or father 2 or 3 children; (2) in good health (which includes not being obese); (3) childless; and (4) financially secure. By this definition, I'm pretty sure that the shortage is of marrigeable women not marriageable men. In fact there are shockingly few marrigeable women by this definition. Of course, we could relax the definitions a bit by not requiring the woman to be financially secure and not requiring th…
/r/MGTOW22/04/17 03:43 PM
2

Is there any conflict between men's rights and women's rights on which feminists don't side with women? Of course not, because feminism has always been about grabbing as much power, wealth, and freedom for women as possible at the expense of men. "Equality" is just a flag of convenience which is waved now and then when it's useful to do so.
/r/MGTOW21/04/17 08:46 AM
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It's fascinating how feminists are so opposed to pornography despite (1) the total lack of evidence that it leads to sexual violence against women; and (2) the fact that they themselves regularly have slut-walks and such where they put themselves on display. I think what's going on is that women are instinctively repulsed by pornography for men because they subconsciously recognize it as a threat to their role as gatekeepers for male sexual release. I think it's the same reason they get worked u…
/r/MGTOW20/04/17 03:33 PM
8

Womanspreading I think it's known as "she-bagging"
/r/MGTOW19/04/17 08:49 PM
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Lol, all the women behind her look like bitches too, especially the bright-red-haired feminazi Yeah, she looks like the type who would file a sexual harassment complaint if an average-looking man so much as looks at her.
/r/MGTOW19/04/17 07:30 PM
6

One thing I've learned over the years is that if you do something nice for a girl, it almost always undermines the relationship.
/r/MGTOW19/04/17 04:27 PM
3

Yeah a father in that situation would normally go to hell and back to defend his little girl. In this case he couldn't even single her out in his statement. I wouldn't be surprised if she's falsely accused him a few times of child abuse or worse.
/r/MGTOW19/04/17 02:07 AM
3

Probably a lot of domestic violence could be prevented with a public campaign to educate women against striking men.
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 07:05 PM
8

Yeah, when I was young, children were taught that boys should not hit girls AND girls should not hit boys. One older teacher specifically admonished girls not to hit boys because it would likely provoke a response which would seriously harm the girl.
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 05:21 PM
2

FTFY Well, let's do the math. In the United States, demographics are roughly flat, so figure that there are about 15 million women between the ages of 20 and 29. Of those, probably at least 60- 80% are mothers, fat, or both. So that's about 3-5 million girls total who most men would be potentially interested in having a serious relationship. On the male side, figure there are about 45 million men between the ages of 20 and 49. Even if 5 million of those are gay, in prison, dead from accidents, e…
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 03:22 PM
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Thought the same thing- a demonstrably false accusation and he won't call her out- probably afraid she'll accuse him next. Probably she has a long history of drama and the father is just rolling his eyes about how she got into another mess.
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 03:05 PM
1

If it makes you feel better, my wife has a sweet, gold-plated retirement plan from her job and I have spousal rights over it.
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 01:11 PM
4

It reminds me of those feminist studies which purport to show that men do better in divorce; men get better health care than women; and so on.
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 12:28 PM
1

The dude's name is (((Ari Grossman))). So clearly he's at fault. /s
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 12:16 PM
10

Yeah, when I'm hanging out with a dude, it's just an enjoyable conversation. Because if you enjoy each others' company, you will probably hang out again. I think that the difference with girls is that there is just insatiable demand for their attention, particularly if they are thin, childless, and under 30. So that even if you enjoy hanging out together, the girl might decide to blow you off -- she can't give her time to everyone who wants to hang out with her.
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 10:24 AM
9

Men love women. Women love children. Even guys who believe NAWALT know that much. Yes, as I pointed out in another thread, the best a man can reasonably expect in a marriage is a wife who is devoted to his children. Which is not a terrible outcome, depending on what you value.
/r/MGTOW17/04/17 05:09 PM
2

I'm just really curious what will happen when your kids are 18, because that is a LONG marriage by today's standards. Lol, the oldest one just turned 18 and plans to start college in the fall. State U offered a generous scholarship but my wife wants our kids to go to fancy private schools. I hope your area doesn't advocate lifetime support payments. Actually my jurisdiction is pretty good about alimony.
/r/MGTOW17/04/17 05:04 PM
1

You're ok with just being a "sperm donor"? Lol, you forgot "financial provider." And I'm not thrilled about my situation but if you want children, it's pretty much the only game in town. when they turn 18, kicks them out then divorces the husband. Haha, my oldest just turned 18, so now it's time to pay for college. And of course the wife wants our kids to go to fancy Ivy League type schools, not State U.
/r/MGTOW17/04/17 05:01 PM
2

Most women are unproductive leaches I wouldn't go that far, but I do think that the vast majority of important, critical work is done by men. The main reason women are valued so much is because of sex and reproduction - what they offer is needed and in short supply.
/r/MGTOW17/04/17 04:59 PM
1

Don't forget to mention the hours when she fuck Chad while you're at work. Lol, unfortunately she is careful not to give me an excuse to walk out.
/r/MGTOW17/04/17 01:23 PM
2

To add to this, the level of anti-Semitic, tin foil hat, Zionist illuminati shape shifting reptile world order posts that get updoots is concerning. Yeah, although I think it's just one or two posters who are pushing this nonsense. I know its natural to try and find someone to blame, I agree, although here the causes are pretty obvious: Female hypergamy and in-group bias, combined with male thirst for female approval. That's why gynocentrism is a problem in places with large Jewish populations (…
/r/MGTOW17/04/17 09:10 AM
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If you're so determined on making society a better place, That's not his aim; his aim is to find men with legitimate grievances and convince them that all their problems can be blamed on Jewish people.
/r/MGTOW17/04/17 09:03 AM
4

Probably there was no evidence to speak of besides the accuser's word. Interestingly, from the article it appears that the accusation was made well over a year after the alleged attack.
/r/MGTOW16/04/17 07:15 PM
3

Most won't admit it, but it's because they're unattractive. Simple as that, really. I imaging that if you are sufficiently attractive, girls will treat you significantly better in relationships. If they love you for your money, there's always that temptation to just take your money through divorce. But if they love you for your looks, that strategy won't work.
/r/MGTOW15/04/17 09:14 PM
2

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/r/MGTOW15/04/17 06:47 PM
4

I don't really object to female interest in male income, I just wish society would have more respect for the male role of breadwinner.
/r/MGTOW15/04/17 12:37 AM
10

Yeah, I'm in what could be called a decent relationship and it's pretty unusual for my wife to do a nice, thoughtful thing for me. Her primary focus in life is the children. Which is fine, I don't really care. But that's the only reason to get married -- to have children. If it's not important to you to have children then don't get married.
/r/MGTOW14/04/17 10:21 AM
2

Well haven't you seen all the posts on MGTOW just praising the jews? /s Heh, must have missed them. But it's interesting to note that Israel suffers from gynocentrism just like every other Western country. For example I was reading that in Israel, there is a special tax deduction for women just to encourage women to work. In effect, they pay a lower tax rate than men. Also, Israeli women can avoid military service simply by marrying, an option unavailable to men. If gynocentrism were the result …
/r/MGTOW14/04/17 10:08 AM
2

This issue comes up a lot on /r/fatlogic. Unfortunately, a lot of people there cannot accept that there exist sex differences which reflect badly on women. Anyway, a big part of it is that men have a much stronger tendency to take responsibility for their problems. So that a man who is fat will probably either accept that he eats too much and is less healthy and attractive as a result; or he will go on a diet and start hitting the gym. As opposed to blaming society for his obesity and insisting …
/r/MGTOW14/04/17 02:16 AM
7

A non-student women in her 20s can have no car, no job, lives with her parents, stay at home all day and watch TV, and get dozens of people wanting to date her if she's good looking (actual true story). She doesn't even have to be good looking. If she is childless and not obese, men will line up around the block to date her.
/r/MGTOW13/04/17 08:06 PM
3

With every anti-social movement being a magnet for Semites who want to infest the movement and co-opt it for their own purposes. Can you give me 2 examples of such posts on this discussion board from the last week or two?
/r/MGTOW13/04/17 06:42 PM
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I kinda doubt that posters in MGTOW and Redpill and PussyPassDenied have done much heavy lifting and worked in dangerous and uncomfortable working conditions. FWIW I am a man and I run my own business and put in a lot of hours. 6 days a week with a lot of late nights. I also have a lengthy commute. It's unusual to meet a woman who goes through this kind of a grind to make money. To be sure, I work in an office and not in a machine shop or coal mine. But definitely my work circumstances are an ex…
/r/MGTOW13/04/17 05:12 PM
2

It's true that sometime the man is at fault, but in those situations, the woman usually has a decent legal remedy.
/r/MGTOW13/04/17 12:45 AM
2

I think that for they most part they do if the man exerts his authority over them. The problem is that our society is relentlessly trying to close every avenue by which a man can exert authority over his wife. In fact, I was reading that feminists in Europe were trying to have it deemed a form of spousal abuse if the husband withholds money from his wife.
/r/MGTOW12/04/17 07:43 PM
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Guilty, and aware that reciprocation of emotional feeling is not obtainable. I wouldn't go that far, but I do think it's becoming harder and harder to obtain for the average guy due to unchecked female hypergamy.
/r/MGTOW12/04/17 07:18 PM
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TFM is repulsive lol Repulsive or not, I think he has a point here. Since 1973, millions of American men have registered for selective service. Not a single one has been actually conscripted. Requiring girls to register would be meaningless -- as TFM points out, if there ever were a mobilization, they would not actually have to fight.
/r/MGTOW11/04/17 10:01 PM
1

The joke of it all is that she probably DOES get attention, just not from the Chads she wants.
/r/MGTOW11/04/17 04:39 PM
5

A bit off-topic, but it's possible to buy "change of heart" insurance for weddings. But anyway, even if you are not a MGTOW, it's a mistake to have an expensive wedding IMO since it only fuels the woman's sense of entitlement. Maybe it made sense in the past but nowadays female entitlement is already plenty high.
/r/MGTOW11/04/17 04:14 PM
4

Yeah, I think American blacks were probably better off, at least culturally, back in the days when the economic incentives pushed them to behave more patriarchically. i.e. less welfare and more jobs for men that paid a living wage.
/r/MGTOW11/04/17 03:01 PM
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Yeah I think what happens is that if you are a woman in your 20s or early 30s, people especially men are deferential to you, go out of their way to help you, and pretend that what you say is important. This treatment dries up as the woman hits middle age bit the women are spoiled and can get pretty obnoxious if they don't get the deference they have become accustomed to. I have a service business and for the most part the most annoying customers are middle aged educated women. In terms of consta…
/r/MGTOW11/04/17 02:21 PM
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I can't get sex so I'm taking my toys and going home Assuming for the sake of argument that MGTOW means that, what difference does it make? If you are physically unattractive and socially awkward enough, no woman will want to have sex with you. But it doesn't mean you are a bad person. I think a big part of MGTOW is rejecting the notion that women get to decide which men are worthy in some general sense and which aren't. Women get to decide which men are sexually attractive and which aren't. And…
/r/MGTOW11/04/17 01:42 AM
7

It makes sense that online dating would magnify man's disadvantage. For most men, it's psychologically difficult to approach girls in real life. Online dating promises to spare men this discomfort. So naturally it attracts a lot of men, which skews the male/female ratio to the point where things become very difficult for men. The other problem, in my opinion, is the obesity epidemic. I think that a much larger percentage of women are obese than men, especially in the younger age ranges. I think …
/r/MGTOW10/04/17 09:16 AM
1

how many men do you think are going for a woman like her, in which you need to compete? I think that's the real problem here. Well, that and the obesity epidemic. There are lots of men between the ages of 20 and 50 who want a girl who is not obese, childless, and under 30. So the effective male/female ratio is something like 4 or 5 to 1. I think it's suppressed by the gynocentric media, but obesity is a much bigger problem among women than men. This is concealed by having the same BMI cutoffs (2…
/r/MGTOW09/04/17 01:20 PM
4

Yeah, when I travel with a daughter, I am very careful to make it clear to hotel staff right off the bat that the girl I am with is my daughter.
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 01:56 PM
6

How much would you bet that if he was with his son then nothing would've happened? Off-topic, but how much do you want to bet that if he was non-White then nothing would have happened? Because in that case, I suspect that hotel staff would have been scared to death of being accused of racism.
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 01:53 PM
1

It seems that a man's social status is driven to a large extent by his relationship with women. Probably this is part of the reason a lot of men marry despite the risks and loss of freedom. When I have an important business meeting, I am careful to wear my wedding ring; people take a man more seriously if he is married even in situations where it is logically of little relevance.
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 08:35 AM
1

Probably the dude is so drunk he doesn't care; it's not like the girl is actually hurting him. IMO, the real story here is how privileged young attractive women are. People will put up with just about anything from them.
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 08:13 AM
4

I don't know how things are now, but it used to be that math, science, and engineering classes were a pretty good refuge from Liberal BS.
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 01:24 AM
1

This somehow betrays your belief that good-look is predominantly an environmental thing hence my disagreement and reason for this discourse. "contributes a good deal" is not the same thing as "done more by." Now please apologize for straw-manning me. And if you disagree with anything I ACTUALLY said, as opposed to what you wish or imagine I said, please let me know.
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 01:21 AM
1

You seem to be more of the belief holder that good-looks (note: just good-looks not muscular build or body weight or size) is something done more by the environment other than being one's nature. Please quote me where I stated or implied such a thing. Failing that, please admit that I did not say this and apologize. Thank you.
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 01:13 AM
1

The question I ask here is: were those "overweight", "out-of-shape" born so? I would say that for the most part, the answer is "no." Generally speaking, people become overweight and out of shape due to environmental factors -- diet and exercise. People who do not overeat, either due to their food choices or due to lack of availability of food, do not become overweight. This is a clear example of environment contributing a good deal to a person's physical attractiveness. I did not read the rest o…
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 12:29 AM
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This is fascinating to me; I'm a middle aged guy and I always thought that this creeping gyoncentrism was a strange byproduct of Western culture. But it seems Turd Flinging Monkey is right, it's simply the result of instincts present in all humans. It's strange to think that places like Saudi Arabia are headed down this road, but I think it is really pretty likely.
/r/MGTOW07/04/17 04:52 PM
2

Environment only enhances beauty in a superficial way; I would have to disagree. For example, you can find lots of pictures of people who start out overweight and out-of-shape; start eating right and hitting the gym; and enjoy a huge increase in their physical attractiveness. Also, yes...some people are born into wealth, others attain it from the scratch, from nothing. I think the "exaggeration" part lies herein that one's wealth has to do with their genes, which is far from truth if I had initi…
/r/MGTOW07/04/17 04:43 PM
2

Everything boils down to your genes. I think this is a bit of an overstatement. Environment contributes a good deal to a person's looks, musculature, etc. Lots of people are wealthy simply due to inheriting money. etc.
/r/MGTOW07/04/17 03:12 PM
1

No he didn't, he said LOOKS in point number 3. Tall, well built, muscular, good facial aesthetics... all of those fall under the good genes category. Some aspects of looks are not controlled by genes; some genetic qualities are not reflected in looks. To be sure there are correlations both ways, but they are not the same thing.
/r/MGTOW07/04/17 03:06 PM
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You forgot genes. A lot of girls consciously or subconsciously prefer a man because they think he would contribute good genes to her offspring.
/r/MGTOW06/04/17 10:29 PM
6

If the male doctor had consulted her to seek therapy first before making the decision? SEXISM! THIS IS WHY WE NEED FEMINISM! MAN THINKS HE KNOWS MY BODY MORE THAN I DO! MANSPLAINING! Yeah, I was going to make this point. In fact, a few years ago I was reading a post by a woman who wanted her tubes tied and she complained that the doctor was reluctant to do it. She felt that she was being treated this way because she was a woman.
/r/MGTOW05/04/17 08:13 PM
5

Just in case her boyfriend or someone that knows her finds her profile is why she made it like this Yeah that's a good point. She knows that a lot of men either won't read the text at all or won't pay attention to it.
/r/MGTOW05/04/17 09:09 AM
5

Polygamy is going on right now in the West. The most desirable men have a tendency to (1) see multiple girls at the same time; (2) date different girls in rapid succession; and (3) marry multiple girls in succession. The situation is exacerbated among people in their late teens and twenties since girls in that age range are heavily pursued by men in their 20s, 30s, and even 40s. Throw in the obesity epidemic and single motherhood epidemic, and it's reasonable to expect that for every thin, child…
/r/MGTOW04/04/17 03:16 PM
3

However, I find it absolutely ridiculous all these fuck head white knighters saying "No real man hits a woman". Anyway, the video is right there: It was literally a fraction of a second between the man's becoming aware he was being attacked and his striking back at his attacker. That's not enough time to think "Oh, this is just a drunk girl swinging her fist at me, no need to defend myself full on."
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