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1d chess
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 05:27 AM
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Truly innocent girls, as in women who never truly become adults have something wrong with them. Nothing wrong with them they're just abnormal which backs up Nietzsche's point. Most "innocent" women are playing demure because they think it's what men want. It's not though, like you just illustrated, as you see that as a deception. What you outlined is a deception but its still what men want lmao. We're going to go in circles forever because you're coming from a religion (liberalism,feminism etc..…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 05:26 AM
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He and N had similar beliefs and so do I. Beauty will save the world
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 05:22 AM
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Actually garbage and not sad. I've studied Voltairine de Cleyre intensely and even wrote music for her but in all honesty even she was a midget compared to Nietzsche. A woman who can understand Nietzsche (Voltairine being one of the closest) is unusual so your outright dismissal of Nietzsche is not surprising
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 05:19 AM
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Women are more rebellious by far
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 05:15 AM
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The battle to be taken seriously? lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 05:14 AM
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Yeah you learned something from school but did you investigate it yourself and really learn or nah?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 05:13 AM
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Those stretched out syllables tho
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 05:11 AM
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I've studied this guy to death. The gist is there even in summary of his entire work
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 05:09 AM
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trouble to who? towards those who fetishize Satanic "liberation". Everything you don't like is not a fetish you know. Virtue ethics is playing 7d chess on you rn
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 05:03 AM
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I'm hyper straight according every gay person I know and I'm telling you Nietzsche was not being gay toward Wagner here. He appreciated him the way a man appreciates another man which is mostly in a very abstract realm far removed from human sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 05:01 AM
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Its your prgramming
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 04:58 AM
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Priestess of hecate. Gotta shit on that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 04:57 AM
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True mark of a male genius is when woman kind overwhelmingly hates your ass lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 04:51 AM
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Hold that phone. I never said that woman kind are naturally more virtuous. The claim is that truly virtuous women are more rare and hence Nietzsche's conclusion, more valuable than even a virtuous/perfect man. Either way talking about virtue is outside the scope of a scientism cultist. Not trying to insult, you're playing 2d chess rn tho
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 04:44 AM
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Science? Consensus science is mostly controlled. Not to mention this is getting into metaphysics of morality which is out of the scope of science entirely. Actually I take that back; but this part is a secret. Nietzsche did an awesome job of addressing this in his Gay Science Anyway, the idea is that the impossible archetype standard lets say Jesus/Mary or Enkei/Ishtar is there for everyone to aspire to. Thats not incompatible with holding people to either too high or too low a standard which co…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 04:07 AM
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It is, its the females redpill to men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 04:03 AM
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This person only managed to bedazzle me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 03:43 AM
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Its the difference between a womans wrath and a mans calculating cruelty
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 03:40 AM
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Good sound redpill advice
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 03:34 AM
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She was a bad teacher, should have empowered what little masculinity he had, so much for the sex master slut idea in this case. Some girls never seem to understand men no matter how high their count
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 03:32 AM
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I choose to see this as a critical mass of beta male public self-flagellation. There's no other option
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 03:27 AM
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Its transcendent virtues, axioms, abstractions that are essentially fantasies to a feminine brained person but very real and a cause for male pursuit of civilization and higher order
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 03:23 AM
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Nah, the ugly feminist stererotype exists for a reason just like the ugly basement dweller dude stererotype exists for a reason
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 03:21 AM
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Its a male fantasy precisely because truly innocent girls are rare BUT their behavior and act tends towards innocence which is just a deception. She's a mirror
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 03:18 AM
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Hecate? That girl would destroy you easily
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 03:16 AM
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Its not about being raised that way its eternal is Nietzsches claim, its female nature. I've looked at most sides of this issue including the modern liberal one and I gotta cosign N on this one
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 03:14 AM
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Yeah I had to think about it before but yeah. I usually Cosign anything N, I'm surprised he said this actually because I came to that conclusion by myself
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 03:09 AM
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Doing it right. Saving for a speed triple atm. Small motors are my flow
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 03:07 AM
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Thats like dating the collective Freudian id. Not even an absurdist would dare
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 02:56 AM
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What do you think about guys who ride a Triumph/roadster/cafe racer
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 02:53 AM
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I relate. High expectations problems
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 02:52 AM
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Yeah I'm not big on loose girls. Make good platonic friends though
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 02:49 AM
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Female/Male dynamics are as interesting to me as the polarization of our electromagnetic physical world. They're one and the same at a certain irreducible level hot cold up down. PPD is probably free speech ground zero as far as reddit goes its censored charitably enough
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 02:48 AM
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Had no part in Said nobody
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 02:44 AM
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I'm pretty sure he knows civilizations operate and fail due to both men and women. Its inflammatory language for sure because he should have said How women destroy civilization . Get post-triggered
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 02:41 AM
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Because science is being degraded
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 02:39 AM
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I have an idea on why we prefer thinner over fat and its due to the fact that the skeleton/muslce body is the natural human form and fat is like an addition from outside, the fatter you are the less human you look to be blunt about it. So I do have that specific preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 02:38 AM
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Bullying forges men like fire tempers steel. Your beliefs directly harm society imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 12:14 AM
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It's Crowely mixed with some Luciferianism, I believe Not Luciferian I can tell you its Church of Satan which is inspired by Ayn Rand and American Libertarianism Luciferianism is so much better even though its all the losing side the winning side is God/Logos different topic though. Yep, I am. I think physical harm is the worst kind of harm, and the most easily preventable. so feminine. I'm guessing you're outright anti-bullying too then
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 12:06 AM
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facts
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 12:02 AM
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I mean Miller Lite is a bad choice when theres Coors or Bud but its better than craft faggotry
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 12:02 AM
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And they're all stone age these "matriarchal" noble savages, something to chew on
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 12:00 AM
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Neither gender could survive and prosper without the other. One is not better than the other - we are equally important, but not the same. Simple common sense. Well I agree with that, who could say otherwise. If there were no women there would be no men. I'm not talking about raw state of nature living though, for high civilization you need men and their ability to conceptualize the future, moralize/organize + work out the physical laws that govern our reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 11:46 PM
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For instance , generally men are more athletic than women, but any given women could very well be more athletic than a given man. So to justify discrimination of the basis of sex or gender isnt quite "fair". But its fair enough so that men and women have different leagues right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 11:44 PM
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Its biased by omission because he forgot to mention how men are critical in enabling women. But its also true that left to their own devices women wouldn't even develop civilization or nations, their tendency is to be like children and play then self destruct.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 11:42 PM
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Yep a guy. Maybe it would be more realistic for a woman who picks the man that can realize her dreams for her? Then again I'm not so sexist that I think its impossible for a woman to do alone. "do what thou whilt, but harm none" I don't think that last part is pure Crowely. I'm not convinced that guns and tanks are the only way to harm people. Thats a very feminine way to look at things are you a female?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 11:40 PM
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You know what I'm talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 11:37 PM
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Okay so empires rise and fall that much is true. But the art and historical impact they create is more eternal and lasting than dead beat "stateless" societies. I'm thinking anything from medieval Iceland to Free Territory Ukraine, none of those made an impact like the Roman or Chinese empire. I'm a former anarchist so I kinda know this game already but go on
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 11:35 PM
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I think individual freedom is mostly vague if not overrated. Imo individual freedom is gained by asserting yourself and taking it, not begging society to reflect an ideal. Like should Hitler have had the personal freedom to do everything he wished? No? Okay so then the question becomes do you believe in the social contract or not? If certain behaviors are proven to destroy and degrade society should we then not promote them or continue promoting them in the name of "liberation"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 11:33 PM
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Whats an asshole and what are the red flags. What if you think sluts are assholes and red flags for instance?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 11:30 PM
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As if that isn't the game of feminism. Its marketing man, feminists do that so as a reaction the red team is gonna do it their own way. If both sides wanted a rational debate RP has its champions ready, Jordan Peterson, Steven Pinker etc... the BP world wants none of that level head debate because their side isn't even half way intellectual just emotional
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 11:28 PM
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However, that does not mean one sex is superior to the other nope sure doesn't or that we should force societal roles based on gender onto individuals. Force? No. Promote? I think so. Its better than the feminist approach which is double pronged promote and force shit that goes against the verifiable observations
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 11:21 PM
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JOKED this is dead on
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 11:14 PM
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Well yes, which is again why we cream when a woman take genuine interest in it. Its rare af though like I said
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 09:38 PM
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Sorry but this sounds like a pep talk to yourself. I believe sexual fluidity is a last resort for the male gender in dire times. It makes more sense to me than the idea that we're all just suddenly so progressive and enlightened out of nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 09:35 PM
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Oh I know. I think I got something across to future even if she hamsters it away the seed has been planted
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 09:34 PM
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I said those who value equality above all will tend to become equalists. It doesn't matter if your personal description is different than text book feminisms or whatever, the end goal is the same which is equalism/equity fetish. When you say "proven otherwise" I have to doubt it. Would you say that theres sufficient proof that men are more athletic overall than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 09:33 PM
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Those things aren't just hobbies in their essence though, in their authentic expressions they built the world of civilization. A wise person doesn't engage in a hobby simply to alleviate boredom or appear interesting, you do it in order to understand the physical world and the forces that govern it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 09:31 PM
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Upton never heard of Guenon
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 09:28 PM
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Which isn't a problem for those who aren't strict physicalists because a metaphor is "meta" physical in nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 09:27 PM
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The metaphysics of magic come well before even "spirits, chakras and crystals". Ask yourself if matter could even matter if there was no consciousness to perceive it. Also, whenever you find natural sort of double entendres or palindromes its magick speaking to you. God is the logos and the God is the word
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 09:26 PM
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Abject stupidity due ultimately to spiritual cowardice
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 09:23 PM
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Not really though, its safe to assume that if you invest more in the "people game" that you will know less about "the world game" just as a matter of principle. And of course it works the other way around too. Its absolutely true that most women could give a shit less about how the physical world works compared to the social world. Thats why everyone creams themselves when an attractive female actually goes into detail about sword smithing or guitar virturosity or any other object oriented disci…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 09:06 PM
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meh I was homeschooled as well and have always been an extrovert, my sister an introvert. My wifes sister went to a huge public school and still has terrible close to 0 social skills. I think a personalities go as far back as the soul/spirit because of this
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 09:03 PM
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So all the BP women who claim to be sapio-sexual are actually just retarded liars? Who knew
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 09:00 PM
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Pretty disgusting that normal sane women like you are getting downvoted for expressing a like of masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 08:53 PM
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Nice
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 08:51 PM
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Nah, its the masculinity thing trust me. Think about it, the idea that its insecurity about not fulfilling your partner is total non-sense because its very well known that no one woman can totally fulfill a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 08:50 PM
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So why hate on men that don't like women who get with a bunch of guys aka sluts? Seems like nobody likes people who fuck guys
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 08:48 PM
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Theres no hypocrisy when you realize and come to accept that men and women are in fact different
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 08:45 PM
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Getting fucked by a guy isn't, fucking a guy is. Its simple really
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 08:43 PM
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There is a key part of his sexuality that I'm not able to fulfill for him. I'd be constantly wondering if he feels dissatisfied or like something's missing, or if he's hooking up with guys behind my back. I think all the women here are saying this to sound nice. I don't get how you could think its any different for straight men? No one woman is ever enough for a straight man, you can't fulfill him entirely. Ultimately a man of virtue stays with his partner despite this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 08:41 PM
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Though, if given the choice, I'd still prefer women. If only there was a way to put a tranny brain into a woman's body, then we'd be in business. MKUltra programming of sex kittens is how the elite do it. Theres also BPD and Pornstars
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 08:39 PM
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Dude its not hard to understand. Submissive feminine women don't want to be fucked by a guy that gets fucked. Its bordering on humiliation. The point is that they like ultimately dominant men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 08:36 PM
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I don't. My only preference is femininity vs masculininity I prefer feminine + pretty, cute, beautiful or hot
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 08:32 PM
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Well theres a pattern
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 08:20 PM
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Thats because women don't really like little bitches. And if your man is bi theres a 50% chances he's the catcher/bitch. Imagine for a moment that you're a "strong independent woman" who gets fucked by a guy that gets fucked... Thats fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 08:18 PM
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I have never met anyone in my super hippie-liberal area, male or female, that thinks men and women are sexually identical and react the same way sexually to visual stimuli. And neither have I in my super hippie-liberal area, nor in my super commie/anarchist days. I chalk that up to the fact that this is a very specific subject so its not so hard to see why you might never get to know what people think about this specifically, unless you ask. even the most insanely hardcore feminists in my life d…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 08:16 PM
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Yes there is, its very much implied every time a bluepilelr here says "men and women are basically just people, we're all people and the same minus some superficial physical differences". If feminists go around telling everyone that men and women are the same (or in worst cases deny men and women are real categories) then its implied when it comes to this topic. If instead we acknowledge how men and women are different at this very fundamental level then we can justify different treatment for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 08:08 PM
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But I believe in equality. Not benevolent sexism. Thats essentially what I meant. Imo, "equality" is slave morality, its not just and its not noble or virtuous its the morality of the envious, greedy, spiteful and hateful. Its anti-woman because it erases the essence of womanhood and replaces it with sameness and "equality".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 08:04 PM
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So you think these "social rules" legit make people and by extension, society happier and/or "better"? Yes definitely. Even for the eternal iconoclast/rebel/anarchist because at least they have something to even tear down and fight against. Meaning, its a great thing, only idiots want to destroy it What's your MBTI if you don't mind answering? ENTJ
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 07:58 PM
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Thats feminism/BP worldview fault for ramming into our heads that men and women are "mostly exactly the same with some superficial differences".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 07:49 PM
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Might want to give a PSA on twox so we can finally admit men and women are different
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 07:47 PM
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I don't believe that. I believe that rules give meaning, theres no game if there are no rules. Our current society embraces the idea of destroying all of the rules and in the process we destroy everything good and meaningful with it. Its a steep price to pay for all this "freedom" and yet people from where I stand don't seem to be any happier than our grandfathers of the past. If anything the "data" supports more depression amongst men and women the more we "liberate" ourselves from all responsi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 07:45 PM
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Yeah well I don't know why you thought I would agree with that guy when my point literally supports your view that its mostly painful for women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 07:39 PM
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I don't know, that seems to be what some "experts" (who also just so happen to love our current society and extol progressivism) seem to say. I don't believe our current sexual market does anything to deflect or discourage sexless marriage or men not being desired. Sexless marriages and men not being desired is an eternal plight of man
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 07:37 PM
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I'm definitely not offended. I know I don't qualify as gay because my gay friends have told me as much, that I'm hyper straight. Or as my gay cousin says "If you can fuck a girl while shes on her period your ass can never be gay"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 07:34 PM
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My comment had nothing to do with dominance. I'm talking about the actual physical sensation of having a penis in your body. sigh
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 07:32 PM
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Now we're switching gears. But I'd say it comes down to extolling women who choose to rise above their animal instincts rather than promoting women to indulge them (feminism, millennial liberalism) Veneration of the Virgin Mary is the perfect representation of this idea taken to its max
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 07:30 PM
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aren't limited to the male half of this species. No they aren't. But to use a oft cited example, feminism, I'd say it goes against the natural female loyal,rational,noble,determined,motivated and stoic qualities. But being anti THAT (purile feminism), is being anti-woman these days
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 07:27 PM
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I appreciate the male body/form especially when its sculpted, just not in a sexual way there's nothing arousing about it, same way theres nothing arousing about Picasso its just art.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 07:26 PM
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Nah. It makes the "pussy slayer" guy a hypocrite but its not weak, its what men like period.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 07:11 PM
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Thats like the mainstream view actually. I think a more interesting and probably true idea is that its a strong mans game.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 07:10 PM
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Huh, we do accept this? Its part of the reason I disagree with the OP. Its not a gay thing, its a dominance thing. Its less pleasant for a girl therefore if she gives you her ass you've essentially dominated her to the fullest extent. This is also why guys slut shame girls who give the ass like crazy, it means you're essentially easy to dominate/less exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 07:03 PM
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I've questioned that. Turns out most of those ancient representations are about the lives of the nobility and aristocrats of the time. Its not what regular peasants were doing (which was prob railing peasant girls in the ass)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 06:55 PM
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I think your points are just less compelling. Thinking about it dominance explains both gay and straight anal sex for men dominance is the big qualifier for just about everything. And in the case of women, its even more scandalous because they actually have a hole special made for your junk. Its totally about dominance/power
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 06:52 PM
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I think this another one of those "haha straight guys are so gay" type of arguments that don't actually make sense but are meant to inflame the opposition by suggesting they're the opposite of what they believe themselves to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 06:49 PM
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Well I'm 6'2 tall dark and not bad looking in my own opinion Anyway, no I don't think its about bi-sexuality its about power. A girl already has a hole made for your junk and yet you want to stick it where? Why? Because I can and you're my bitch. Harsh but true. People projecting homosexuality or bi-sexuality onto this act aren't realizing that its about power in for homosexuals and bi-sexuals the top is always the power. Of course feminism in all of its ideological messiness has tried to champi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 06:46 PM
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Having a slow day in hypergamy land?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 06:41 PM
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You just wronged again
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 06:39 PM
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Yeah I've never believed that. I'm an open "moralist" because I've long ago realized the hypocrisy of amorality and moral nihilism, no one acts like an amoralist or a moral nihilist because morality is ultimately about meaning which is a very human and advanced concept. If she's addressing so called amoralists (I call em cowards) then shes right absolutely
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 06:38 PM
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again, how do women as a whole abuse power? I'm not seeing it. why is the onus of sexual restraint entirely on women? Its not. Its on men too. Men can easily rape/overpower but they don't for a whole host of reasons, restraint, discipline, morality. Its natural for men to be restrained sexually, its day to day life for most men even despite the much higher sex drive why do we deny men agency when it comes to sex? We don't. At least I don't can't speak for you. If anything, it seems like limiting…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 06:36 PM
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Can you expand on point 1? Not sure what you're saying? Are you saying no one needs morality to survive? Even if one has morality, you are not the arbiter of it. That depends on how powerful you and your group are. In order to be the arbiter of anything you need to first have that thing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 06:32 PM
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If governments are what destroy society then why are stateless societies stagnant. Why did super statist societies like Rome reach such heights in their time?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 06:29 PM
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I love how your one example is a tribe stuck in the stone age. Anywhere you find a society that treats men and women as equals you will find stone age tech
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 06:27 PM
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I don't think it does. In fact I'd say its a pro-woman video because the first step towards extolling the virtues of women is to point out how they are different from men. They have different vices and virtues, when we think of the two as exactly the same with some "superficial" differences (as many BP'ers here have said) it all goes to shit
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 06:25 PM
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I don't even know what it means to be anti-woman its way too vague of an idea. I'm a hetero guy so I find it impossible to be anti-woman. Oh you mean not seeing women as just men without a dick? I guess I am anti-woman by those standards
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 06:21 PM
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Said every US Liberal
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 06:15 PM
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I'd agree that sexual restraint for everyone (gay, het, bi, man, woman) is better for the development of society. But women seem to the only ones in recent times given the greenlight to go off the rails without criticism. This is what feminism and all that junk is about. Do we really have to go through this topic again? If you're telling me women haven't enjoyed the brunt of this "Sexual liberation" I'm calling you a liar straight up
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 06:12 PM
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liberal feminism has in my opnion caused women to think theyre men and men to think theyre women and to become very confused Close. Its not liberal feminism though its a Satanic cyclical human expression throughout the ages, the transgendered figure of Baphomet/Shiva represents the convergence
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 06:06 PM
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Women have all but abandoned virtue in todays time imo. Men have to learn early on not to act on their urges because they are very destructive for society. Women in comparison hold a ton of power in terms of sexuality and abuse it daily, have never even considered containing it for virtuous purposes(sans some religious women out there). Pretty sure even the word virtue was made up by a man or group of men, and left to their own devices I doubt women would be capable of conceptualizing such an ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 06:00 PM
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Most women are following some pop culture worldview as a "proxy". Would you argue that pop culture reflects the objective truth about selection?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 05:56 PM
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Its because compared to women, men are less allowed to indulge. Men come off as insatiable mostly because they've rarely if ever been satiated (in a sexual way) Outside the realm of sexuality men are definitely the more noble sex as far as overcoming animalistic drives (men built civilization this way)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 05:53 PM
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Holding out for a unicorn
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 05:46 PM
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Like, does the guilt ridden shoplifter steal less than the contented shoplifter? No, but the guilty one has a moral compass and can be reasoned with and rehabilitated into society more easily. I was this person who had no compass and was a buglar/thief. I actually came to being moral by my own reasoning and search for truth/meaning. Many common thieves do not consider these things and will rob and steal until they die
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 05:45 PM
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A blue admitting RP serves a useful purpose?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 05:42 PM
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what would women not "abusing power" look like, then? A society of virtue. Its like how men have physical prowess but they can't just rape women, it would make society a shit show for everyone its not virtuous
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 05:40 PM
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You're moralizing about getting threats. If we're all going to pretend everyone else is a pesky "moralizer", that morality is some ape like reactionary evolutionary mistake, then both sides need to cut out the outrage. As for me, I've always maintained that I'm un-apologetically a moralist. No one wants to stand for anything or assert their values because you're mostly all cowards
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 05:37 PM
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That would assume women have a built in way of finding out who is objectively more useful for some higher purpose like society and civilization
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 05:34 PM
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It is morally wrong for both men and women to be slutty. Unless you have a morality that centers around chaos and societal collapse/iconoclasm
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 05:33 PM
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Nah, my sister and cousin are legit this I've seen it with my own eyes I've seen their mood change where no words were said when they walked into specific situations
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 06:21 PM
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I don't think his point was that is necessarily bad though. A love that ends in a suicide pact might seem bad from our current worldview but it is transcendent for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 06:17 PM
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And mine is "not deep enough fam"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 06:14 PM
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Yeah but in the big picture he's good for masculine polarity men. The Bankers thing has been around since day one doesn't matter if its betas or alphas running that shit
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 06:12 PM
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I mean I cant say one way or the other but I will say that its doubtful you're one of the few people who are not asexual yet not relationship material. Your survival depends on many seen and unseen relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 06:04 PM
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I'm not worried about being "misandric" I believe in virtue and vice each sex having their own virtues and vices. Those who give into vice or organize relations based on vice are at least temporarily subhuman imo, animals. They can't be discriminated against anymore than Racoons or Pitbulls, which means just don't be unusually cruel to them just don't expect much either
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 06:02 PM
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Performance I suppose. Best WNBA player vs LeBron James stats. Who cares if his IQ is lower we know his raw talent is higher
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 05:58 PM
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There are still a large pool of men who are potential suitors/true romances for you, and they might want their own children.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 05:57 PM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 05:55 PM
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Based on whos history Engels? History isn't science take it with a grain of salt myself
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 05:09 PM
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yeah because IQ never trumps applied skill which is often raw talent
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 05:09 PM
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lol those are gay pets, totally different story but actually a neat phenomenon all the same
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 05:05 PM
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One problem with that line of thinking is that feminists and the mainstream often push this doctrine on low to middle class women. Adoption costs a minimum of 30k straight up cash and home ownership, I've looked into it with my wife. Its not even feasible except for the well to do
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 05:00 PM
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The proof is that there are no other animals that even have the concept of virtue, respect, nobility, art etc.. so that makes it human when you deduce it logically Now show me your proof otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 04:56 PM
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Look at any communist society now or past. Find me something that can be called virtue. Maybe its the way they put babies in dumpsters in China? Or the way the Soviets executed priests for wrong think? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 04:55 PM
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We should embrace a system of control, not all totalitarian control is harmonious and good though. But yeah you need a system and rules, otherwise there is no game to play
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 04:53 PM
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Scandinavian countries? lmao, who said they were happy the immigrants im joked
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 04:51 PM
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On the contrary the patriarchy never went anywhere. You're confusing male domination with patriarchy not the same things bruh
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 04:50 PM
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Its not going to its a fantasy. I remember 2008 when people said it'd be here by 2016, still waiting. Its reminding of climate change
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 04:47 PM
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Someone with some sense finally. I'm no nerd but without the division of labor this sci-fi fantasy isn't even going to get off of the ground
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 04:46 PM
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Rome has a bone to pick
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 04:45 PM
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whats wrong with good old war though? i just hate the idea of utopia so I'd take war over estradiol in the water supply
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 04:44 PM
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Neither of those situations have to be shitty, you can't have your cake and eat it too. Gotta make sacrifices in some areas. Get over your insatiable appitite for travel and $ bills and you can have that exclusive romance with a poor good guy. OR get over your jealousy and be number 2 or 3 to a very powerful good man
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 04:40 PM
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"harem bullshit" appeals mostly to highly monogamous/romantic women. most women are monogamous but extreme monogamy is outlier women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 04:39 PM
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Its a spectrum with outliers, most women are monogamous. Its a feminist idea that men and womens sex drives work the same way. Some outlier highly monogamous women would rather a harem setup with one powerful male over a fuck fest with dimwit betas, because honestly it does seem like a better setup. A powerful male with a harem at his feet is going to be insanely masculine in his aura and duties, highly empowered and motivated
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 04:35 PM
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But you're Greek. Walking around in togas with your sisters feeding a powerful man some grapes, its in the rule book
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 04:30 PM
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Nah, that shit is real. My gf took maternity pictures for a girl where the dad AND his OTHER baby momma + kids were in it lmao. At first they fought over him but when he knocked up a third girl they became besties and "sisters" against the evil third woman. That dude is somehow a loser and the biggest winner ever I'm not saying this is wide spread but I am saying I doubt you could show me an example of the same situation happening in reverse. And that to me tells us something about the sexes
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 04:27 PM
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European atheists feminists love Allah that much? Damn
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 04:24 PM
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Ramp up your offensiveness young padawan, it was a good effort though but yeah be more judgey
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 04:22 PM
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Because most people these days are indoctrinated with all kinds of communistic thoughts. Also I don't believe in the stupid robot future. We already have robots and I think their place is better as tool to make hi-tech objects, not anthropomorphic tin cans that serve as garbage men and baby sitters
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 04:16 PM
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I do think each sex has its inherent virtues and this results in a sexist(in the we're not all equal sense) worldview no matter how you slice it. Doesn't mean everyone extols virtue, most live in vice
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 04:14 PM
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Thats just not how it happens. They'll sell a guy some drugs tell him about a hot bitch who likes to fuck, she'll ask for drugs too (getting some supply back) and establish a client. Works other ways too
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 04:12 PM
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Its a choice all your own. You want the freedom to choose whether you're valuable to most men or just a niche of men, you and other feminists pick the niche because you value purile "freedom" from responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 04:08 PM
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The way the man wants usually is the best compromise because when men flourish women get better luxuries and devices. When men submit to women the women are ecstatic short term and then within a generation or two the system collapses. Adam and Eve yo
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 04:04 PM
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tribal people are basically different creatures entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 04:02 PM
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JOKED
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 03:56 PM
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You've lost your value to about 70% of the male population. Just because you CAN do something doesn't always mean you should, depends on your goals too. Thats why very few "feminists" are cutting out their wombs at 17-18 because they know it might just be a phase
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 03:54 PM
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There is no grand design, only a playing field. Thats the only part I disagree with. But yes, telling women to stop pushing their imperative is assinine I agree. Men can regulate theirs though to some extent and thats how civilization rises
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 02:09 PM
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Just as much as watching/observing any other kind of animal. We're unlike all other animals but all of them can teach us something
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 02:06 PM
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Yeah I never got the whole idea that you must take offence on behalf of your gender thing. Idgaf if someone says AMALT because I know who I am
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 01:59 PM
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Its really not. Selling ass is a hard life and you've been watching too many feminist girl power flicks if you think the girls can handle it all entirely themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 01:52 PM
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Pimps also find clients, deal drugs, run scams, keep up the properties (or use their moms name to stay legal on properties) I lived next to a prostitution house lmao. They put jumper cables on my electric box so that the energy company thought I was stealing and I had to move out because I had no power. I wasn't even that mad although I did chase the guy down the street with my AR. But not too mad because now I know a good trick for getting rid of pesky neighbors
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 01:48 PM
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Men constantly give in to feminine auras. Its the default mode when a guy sees a beautiful girl
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 01:38 PM
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Probably but thats most people. BDSM, poly orgies and cock sleeves won't make that better as BP'ers seem to think
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 01:37 PM
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I'd say naturally RP guys are getting the most of anyone. Then comes naturally RP guys who are RP in actions and BP in their ideals. Then non-natural RP'ers then the damned non-natural BP'ers are the lowest totem
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 09:57 PM
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Here in the US we have like 100 different types of anarchists and two types of liberals. The anarchists that aren't feminized are of the American, primitivist, capitalist or Italian traditions, anti-communists ones. Most are commies though, especially the greens and environmentalists MLs are essentially role players or part of some dumbed down group like Socialist alternative where they hand out papers and thats it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 09:52 PM
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and what does ordinary mean? aren't you a feminist, thats a hardline position not ordinary at all despite the support of hollywood/mainstream media
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 09:48 PM
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Power to you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 09:47 PM
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MLs especially Maoist sympathizers are the most Queer and feminized group of leftists. In America the most masculine leftists are Satanistic Libertarian metal heads
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 09:45 PM
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Also union guys are mostly professional bitches waiting on orders. When I was a leftist/anarchist I organized an illegal wild cat strike at my pizza job because official Unions are gay ass gatekeepers who do not have workers interests in mind just their ideological interests
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 09:42 PM
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I never support politicians lmao. You're better off contributing to or supporting media/art/work that reflects your politics. the world of politics is a drama soap opera for the politically idiotic
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 09:40 PM
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In the case of the ultimate submission she won't be doing starfish because starfish mode is duty sex. It doesn't mean any specific position just that she's engaged and wants it as badly as the man (which is a high bar to achieve for a woman) If a guy is only getting starfish she's either doing it out of duty or as an exchange (maybe he painted the fence that day) Which is of course totally lacking the passion and firey intensity us guys crave. The RP idea is that same starfish woman would most l…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 09:36 PM
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Its a good rule if they want to attract feminine women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 09:25 PM
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Imo those details are irrelevant as most guys are just trying to get to the sex on demand part, whos moving around more is after the fact. The ultimate submission is where the girl begs to be fucked and according to most RP philosophy you're going to need to radiate some perfect balance of Alpha/Beta traits to get that to happen
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 09:22 PM
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Women naturally submit when they let a guy in. But for RP I think the ideal submission goes a little further where she submits to your masculine aura in a way where she not only allows sex but begs for it enthusiastically
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 09:19 PM
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I was just pointing out that getting penetrated doesn't mean being submissive. But it does. Cock and ball torture would have to be voluntarily negotiated after allowing sex to happen. When a woman allows sex to happen the default agreement is penetration, she submits
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 09:16 PM
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Thats my thoughts as well. If she's being a size queen just find something more snug
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 09:08 PM
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Nope. Although she'd have to be a total size queen for this scenario to happen, only time I actually checked I was in the top 20th percentile. For a long time I thought I was small af at 7.x (thanks porn) If I had a little peen I'd rather try to make it work then do something as faggoty as using a sleeve
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 09:06 PM
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Tough cookie. I don't even like the military but I gotta respect a SEAL
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 09:00 PM
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Won't you always have obligation and responsibility to yourself and so always have some inbuilt meaning and purpose? Unless you sit in meditation until you wither you're going to have to interact with society and society will reflect back at you you're station and status within it, doesn't matter what you think about it or whatever ideal you aspire to you can't do it all on your own. Also this idea of yours is playing out right now and the results are looking dire, everyone is engaging in blind …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 08:29 PM
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Well up until the Islamic takeover because the french were too busy being "liberated" teenaged brained cucks
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 06:32 PM
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tradesmen is a super alpha position though. people who build the world = masculinity embodied
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 06:29 PM
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Facts right here
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 06:28 PM
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Hot older teachers are the ones who "hook" hot young bulls not the other way around. Its not an accomplishment on his part but on hers
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 06:27 PM
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This reminds me of all the reddit liberals talking about how the Canadian senate "absolutely fucking pwn bitch boy Jordan Peterson". Ideology goggles are funny
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 06:21 PM
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Just admit it. Dudes an alpha and a prophet of kek/thoth/Gucci Mane Reagan and Hannity are literally pussies in comparison
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 06:18 PM
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Huh? the Frogs are weak af on the world stage right now. I wouldn't be surprised if old "alpha Micron" gets the Marie Antoinette treatment before his term is over
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 06:17 PM
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People are judgemental about things shoved down our throats. For the past 20 years liberalism, beta male culture and cuckoldry has been shoved down our throats. Let the human super organism judge the narrative to make way for the new narrative which will then be judged by latter generations
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 06:15 PM
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The relation between humor and masculinity is about courage. If you find everything humorous it means nothing really bothers you because you're secure. You hear someone make fun of you and you just laugh, it registers as cognitive dissonance which is funny because you know their insult doesn't stick. Its also about courage for the feminine principle as well This is why woman comedians are always incredibly self depreciating, it takes courage for a woman to be self depreciating because it goes di…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 06:01 PM
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One thing that struck me is how much nitty gritty this was compared to RP advice I've read. This book goes into great detail about what exactly to do once the pants come off. Where to put what body part, how hard, how long, ect... RP advice usually talks about general behavoir and attitudes. Which is exactly why this book sucks and is autistic af. Good sex isn't about specific actions (rub the shaft perpendicular to the axis blah blah blah) Good sex is about power relations and that is why the R…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 05:43 PM
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Radical freedom is an idiotic notion and even the anarchist Sarte knew it. Radical freedom means you're free from all obligations, duties and responsibilities which then means your life is meaningless and purposeless Freedom/liberation has become (to borrow from Marxists) a "fetish" circa 1960s. Radical individualism is fucking retarded the Fascists were right
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 05:34 PM
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Socialism is a crappy idea. Okay well atleast you're half way sane
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 05:31 PM
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If you're for sexual free market sexuality you have to realize that it makes virgins more valuable by default since they're more rare thus having higher positional value
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 10:40 PM
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How come so many Geeky feminist dorks can't see the problem with socialism when its applied to anything else like economics? Seems strange that such a great idea would have its limits right at the point where it starts to benefit men over women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 10:38 PM
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I don't think he could back in the gap either. I see normal guys with decent bone structure and decent jobs having hard times these days
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 10:35 PM
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Wait wait wait. Why shouldn't a woman be a top quality committed guys personal pornstar? Thats the way it should be ideally all else being equal
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 10:22 PM
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Deep down, but not on the surface. This goes hand in hand with the idea that women are sneakier in their sedition. Women also love to enable other women into their own destruction. They'll always say "I mean personally I wouldn't do that but you go do you gurrrrl!" knowing that they wouldn't do it because its straight dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 09:44 PM
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For social policy? Why can't people do what they want? Because it creates externalities that effect others. Like Abortion, it creates disincentives for sexual irresponsibility increases STDs and child births (ill have sex with everyone and just get an abortion later, oh wait i don't like this abortion idea i'll just have all these kids) Not to mention how its murder and chips away at our core understanding of justice and retribution. Why should serial killers and unibombers rot in jail if women …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 09:15 PM
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Ahh yeah The Saint is uptown but Siberia is a different place on St. Claude St.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 09:12 PM
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When "liberation" without qualifiers became the highest virtue. Not realizing the "liberation" can mean anything, what about when you liberate yourself from love, duty, responsibility? This is what people wanted for 40 years now, radical freedom to do what you want. Well almost anything you want, just don't judge others can't do that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 09:11 PM
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So relative to two different things (men and women) they aren't that different? How about this I'm a guy, is a guy of a different ethnicity more distinct from me than a girl of my same ethnicity?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 05:57 PM
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The Saint and Siberia. Sounds like you hung around Decatur/heart of the quarter. Thats tourism land
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 05:55 PM
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Yep, ever notice that its only ever a benefit for "women to explore their sexuality". It just translates into women getting to give Chad a baby. We all know women make terrible porn when they direct it, theres not much to explore when it comes to womens sexuality. Men are the pioneers of sex elevated to an art
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 05:52 PM
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That is the problem with rules and the best philosophers and theologians relied on transcendent values/logic to formulate the best rules. Our current culture does not believe in the transcendent, and so all rules are arbitrarily assigned by whomever takes power (right now its globalists and their anti-nationalist splinter cells like feminists and ISIS) But still, if we choose to not make rules knowing they will be arbitrary, someone else will be happy to make the rules. I'd rather be the ruler t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 05:45 PM
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Male feminists truly believe most women are the Liith archetype. Cool chicks that think like the dudes bro
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 05:42 PM
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Facts
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 05:38 PM
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Truth. When women don't find their own man to listen to they just listen to "the man".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 05:31 PM
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You're right. Which is why our culture needs to bring back virtue. Truly high quality men dont jump on every pussy that shows itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 05:21 PM
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A shift towards a culture of meaning. Starts with civic nationalism/patriotism
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 05:13 PM
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I've lived here for all of my years and gotta say that is very hard to believe. I'm sure not many people even take note of such things it happens so often ime
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 05:06 PM
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You still haven't answered my question though. We are not very different relative to what?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 05:05 PM
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Thats because you really only make one or two goals out of the day, "super decisions" lets say. So in order to go about the day smoothly you operate by thinking in big picture gestalts. You could rationalize all of your bifurcating decisions on the way to your bigger goals but its not very efficient and in extreme cases we call it OCD
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 05:02 PM
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Where are yall from? I have to admit, I'm a "tradcon" but my crowd is super artsy and music scenish. Girls do this stuff all day long, many are on drugs but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 09:35 PM
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And thats good. This is the male thirst being replaced with romance in the grander scheme of things
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 09:34 PM
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Live from V Live Huston. Actually it happens in regular bars. But I'm from New Orleans not the uptight east coast
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 09:31 PM
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Ever been to a metal/punk/rock show at an underground bar? I'd say an "edm concert" but I've never been to one of those pieces of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 09:31 PM
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Because when RP men try to be moral its sidelined as "tradcon". I'm a masculinist so I believe morality and having principles is critical to manhood. Amoralism is a womans game or for pussy men who don't stand for anything but their own hedonism. Which is again very womanly
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 09:30 PM
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Disagree. It matches somewhat well with my experiences. But I'm not sure step 3 exists. If a girl is polite to you she's gameable. If you stand no chance she'll never be all that respectful unless shes a lesbian
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 09:27 PM
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You speak like an idiot but you're pretty smart. I can tell cus thats how I do it KEK But yeah, the left and right mainstream have relied on "sourcefagging" for a long time now, its clearly an appeal to authority fallacy meant to make you believe most people are unqualified to talk about anything at all. Smart people ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 09:21 PM
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accept that men and women have far more in common than they seem to acknowledge. We are not alien creatures to one another, there are differences but they are both cosmetic and trivial compared to what we have in common. How can you prove this? It sounds like when GreaseyPole tried to tell me "humans can rationalize but its really paper thin". Relative to what though? So when you say "men and women have way more in common than differences" I have to ask; relative to WHAT? A different species? I …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 09:14 PM
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Everything this guy is saying is debatable. He acts like he understands Godel but right now in /r/philosophy or /r/philosophyofscience there are people debating over Godels meaning lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 09:11 PM
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I feel like you're describing the "climate" scientists on reddit more than Peterson
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 09:08 PM
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If anything this guy does the opposite of what you're saying. He uses freaking fairy tales to get his points across kek
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 09:07 PM
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Are you Rick or Morty?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 09:06 PM
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Everything anti-sjw is considered traditionalism these days because sjwism and liberalism has come to be defined purely by moral relativist and compulsory "tolerance". This has actually made a lot of even more nerdy 4chaners more warm towards "traditionalism". I prefer to call the truth and things that work good "eternal" rather than "traditional" or "reactionary" because those terms make it seem like "progressives" are actually progressive when they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 09:03 PM
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Interesting, happens opposite for me and mine. I always have to remind her that she used to do all kinds of sexy things in the past, its always a mini fight but I don't get why it has to be. I love her as much as the first day but I absolutely hate the idea of just being glorified friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 06:00 PM
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Weird, I've apprenticed for a machinist and never once saw a woman but I'm in the south. I fish crab,oyster,shrimp too and have seen a few wives out there going hard but I mean it doesn't look good for feminism from where I stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 05:40 PM
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I've never seen anyone say that "women never worked in the past". Pretty sure we all know that isn't true. What women didn't do was invent the world we see around us. They didn't design the skyscrapers of today nor the pyramids of ancient Egypt. They can chip away at the bricks with a tiny hammer all day long though
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 05:28 PM
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Not sure just do it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 05:25 PM
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accept a child free life, as hard as that is to me its still the best option.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 05:21 PM
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Might be the saddest thing I've read here. Vet better holy shit
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 05:01 PM
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Any girl that is feminine and fit is a 10 to me, so my wife is an 11
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 04:59 PM
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To a certain extent. I can't speak for guys but for women it isn't just about weight/fitness. Seduction, vocalizations, sexy facial expressions, graceful movements, most girls naturally know how to do all of this when they're single but then seem to quit once you LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 04:55 PM
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Its just the repressed freudian id found all over the web I wouldn't worry too much, but I doubt these guys are reproducing anyway
/r/RedPillWives04/06/17 03:20 PM
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Women these days can easily secure FWBs that serve as beta provider LTRs but their thirst to be dominated and "owned" by a high value partner will continue on. Which is why although LTR with a high value partner is ideal, FWFB(financial benefits) is certainly livable
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 10:29 PM
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There was a topic posted about that very thing in PurplePillDebate not long ago. I don't go to male RP subs either but PPD I do hang around most
/r/RedPillWives03/06/17 10:12 PM
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Do what thou wilt shalt be the whole of the law
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 10:10 PM
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No RP guys often are too. A redpill Bi guy is pretty class though
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 10:09 PM
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When I read this all I see is women trying to make men less controlling and women more controlling.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 10:08 PM
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Isn't that just regular foolishness. I hate these post-modern terms they just muddy everything
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 10:06 PM
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No they aren't. In their bubbles and communes they still form hierarchies lmao. I was part of a poly squat house community. I'm not really bi just very fraternally minded but yeah bi guys and androgynous people overall are not secure they're often mentally unstable af
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 10:04 PM
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Gen Z is more hardy from what I experience. My nieces and nephews were born woke
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 09:58 PM
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but he's worried pussy I don't mind male dancers like at all, its the worry wort faggotry that gets me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 09:54 PM
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I've heard that somewhere (Sorry to bust OP balls) Was it Dennis Prager? I kinda want to know now it is fucking funny though
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 09:50 PM
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Everyone is losing out imo. But to say this makes you a "tradcon". You see, the woman isn't actually losing out according to feminists/bp, she don't need no title, security or ltr. Feminism is peasant mentality meant to keep lower and middle class beautiful women from climbing the hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 09:40 PM
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Some RP men think of raising a daughter as being the ultimately cuckoldry. But the way I think about it is that the idea of a baby/girl then finally a woman being close to you in your life; but sans all the drama of sexuality being attached, has probably got to be one of the best experiences for a man ever. To truly know and love a woman where your own sexuality doesn't come into play seems in my mind to be the ultimate divine expression of the masculine and feminine in harmony. Likewise for a m…
/r/RedPillWives03/06/17 09:38 PM
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Are you then suggesting that being judgmental is a virtue? Yes of course because JUSTICE is a virtue and thats why we call a judge a Justice. As long as you can take judgement while also dishing it out theres nothing wrong with it. When we throw murderers in jail we're being judgemental, when pro-lifers demand justice they're being judgemental for the same reason, yet our society for instance considers abortion to be "grey". There are many of these "grey" externalities in our society but in our …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 09:30 PM
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Thats not a problem for someone who understands occult forces and propaganda/memetics. The most absurd shit can go viral if its time has come
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 09:19 PM
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Well we're also thinking globally now too. Back in the day war was about region, tribe, nation. Now when we say "war is bad for all of us" we literally mean all of us
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 09:13 PM
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Divine metaphysics but thats beyond where most RP or BP wanna go
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 09:10 PM
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Yep. I wonder if royalty/nobility would send their 1st born heirs into whore town just to make a few bastards to keep around.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 09:09 PM
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Maybe because of overpopulation the 10 men for every woman and 1 baby per year deal is a consequence
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 09:03 PM
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Yeah I know that old saying too. Its just way too vague and doesn't take into account externalities. Its the general problem with all forms of liberalism/capitalism/lassiez faire It starts to turn into pathological "tolerance" and a weird reverse morality where "non-judgement" becomes the highest virtue. Then in no time your whole civilization goes to shit due to the anarchy of all relations
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 08:58 PM
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Theres one problem. BP champions sexual liberalism and casual sex sometimes even more hardline than PUA/TRP does. Its almost impossible to have genuine empathy with a bunch of strangers who may have conflicting values over and over again all the time, it just doesn't make sense. Empathy towards a stranger can be experienced but by definition they need to be going through something that you can relate to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 08:51 PM
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I hope you're right. My personality archetype is like alpha/white knight I long for a world of meaning after emerging from Hades in my nihilistic formative years. I don't zero in on sex, but in a somewhat Freudian way I believe that in order to start living lives of meaning in every other way we're going to have to start with sex because its the basis of all meaning in the end. I believe the culture of being hooked on your phone, going out in public without your best dress and having sloppy shit…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 08:46 PM
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Personal freedom is a hollow term without any qualifiers. Personal freedom to gas jews? Or just the personal freedom to fuck up the concept of romance and the lives of all western children?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 08:41 PM
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Sucks to be hubby imo
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 08:40 PM
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Obama
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 08:39 PM
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A friend with benefits just means orbiter imo. A guy who doesn't "own" his girl is just a forever fwb
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 08:37 PM
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I never knew how bad infertility has gotten until I listened to catholic radio kek. Having trouble myself in this area and I know 3 other couples who are too, seems strange
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 08:33 PM
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Don't drink rain water its like a ph of 4 sometimes and has no electrolytes or minerals. Use it for ceremonial baptisms and regular baths thats about it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 08:30 PM
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I think all of your bullet points pretty much covered it. But the most important is prob point number 1. I think girls are realizing Tinder culture sucks dick literally and metaphorically. The neo-hippie/liberal free love movement of 2011 is dying out, older millennials are fed up with the low return for effort in casual sex lifestyle and Gen Z are the new creative force and they're saying fuck this degenerate crap the last generation went nuts over
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 08:16 PM
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As a guy I hate it when the dudes go in suits that are super boyish/tacky/loud because its an excuse to look like a clown. I feel like a suit should command respect always, to look like a fool in a suit is a circus act no matter how jacked you are I'll always see you as being retarded.
/r/RedPillWives03/06/17 03:34 PM
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It was also to flood more whites into the booths to out do the growing number black and hispanic voters.
/r/RedPillWives03/06/17 03:28 PM
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Is English your first language because you don't seem to grasp the difference between an object ( a non sexual thing) and a human being (an inherently sexual creature) Men don't objectify women this way they sexualize them. Men objectify women when they actually love them. Men also humanize their favorite objects like calling their motorbike her/she.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 03:21 PM
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I'm a Christian now but I've gone through an atheist rationalist phase, a nihilist phase then onto Satanism/witchcraft/occult and now a gnostic Christian. You're right that faith is an essential component to all of our lives. I do believe in God but I don't think he's a sky wizard I just used that term because its a funny atheist strawman to me. Its how I imagined God in my early atheist/ifuckinglovescience says
/r/RedPillWives03/06/17 03:20 PM
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Simple, get a masculine dude and if he's worthy you adopt his masculine traits and he adopts your feminine traits in order to create that perfect metaphysical harmony. Like others have said the masculine and feminine have their archetypes to choose from.
/r/RedPillWives03/06/17 06:10 AM
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taking an item of plastic and shaping it into a pussy to fuck it seems like the best use of this word. much better than "objectifying" which is the opposite concept
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 05:59 AM
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Let Nietzsche mansplain this phenomenon to you. Avoid crypto leftist luddite critiques of technology and other neo-heathen groups like "blood and soil". I've come to believe the truth is that the LOGOS that is; language is the first technology. Our current tech of today comes with many sacrifices to our moralities and principles. The biggest lie we were told was that everything moves forward in a straight line telos of progress. In actuality technology is eternal to human beings, it doesn't prog…
/r/RedPillWives03/06/17 05:51 AM
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When you're confident its easier to be more intelligent, its easier to be more emotional which leads to more holistic understanding of well everything. Ugly peoples bitterness holds them back intellectually in most cases
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 05:31 AM
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All feminine all 10s
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 05:19 AM
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I never said it made it an actual person. I said it humanizes the object.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 05:18 AM
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If I were to just think about RP in really general terms two things come to mind, self improvement and anti-feminism honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 05:17 AM
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I believe you're lying
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 11:29 PM
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Thats actually LITERALLY humanization. If sex is the sole component here, well sex is the opposite of what objects do. If you fuck a rock, thats humanizing the rock
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 11:28 PM
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No. Some people are just fated to be that guy this is what I've come to believe. ITs sort of like how BP'ers here will say things like "So all RP is trying to say is that status and wealth attracts women? Well DUH, just get a good job like doctor or lawyer don't be an idiot" Totally forgetting not everyone can be a high earner high status man, doctors and lawyers could not even do their jobs without the garbage man. Someone has to be that guy, the garbage man, the anti-social geek etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 11:26 PM
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Backpedal that feminist narrative baby!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 11:18 PM
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not the same as saying their only purpose is for sex. Who says that? WHAT says that? Some 17th century Puritan's gravestone?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 11:16 PM
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So casual sex negative. Like a religious person might believe
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 11:14 PM
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You might wanna try arguing against feminism points just like sometimes, you're spreading yourself to thin bro. Unless you're trolling in which case good job
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 11:11 PM
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whims and desires of the female
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 11:10 PM
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groping women can be cultural. you're a racist liberal now, great job
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 11:08 PM
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Its an amorphus idea like all feminist doctrine, it can mean anything you need it to mean in order to win the screaming match
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 11:07 PM
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joked. yeah i found that out the hard way too
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 11:02 PM
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Imo "opposition to feminism" is what brings all the boys to the yard so to speak. But that doesn't mean RP isn't serious about self improvement, you know what it takes to be serious about something like that? To just say it, RP says it like no other so I say the collective "they" do take it seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 11:01 PM
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A point is a pointed response though, not an ideological copy paste paragraph/story
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 10:59 PM
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As an overt asshole who always has the upper hand; I have to say its idiotic to think that overt assholishness + the upperhand is somehow the opposite of idiotic. There's a time and a place and there needs to be a sense of justice involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 10:56 PM
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I really hate to say it but you're right. If someone could prove this wrong I wanna hear it because its been my experience that my more omega type friends really get shit on for doing the same exact shit I might do, like start an argument just to push buttons. If an Omega does that he's Hitler to women. Which makes me wonder, wtf are omegas supposed to do? Become monks or marry really pretty trannies?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 10:48 PM
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The funny part about being an ENTP is that everyone in real life fucks with you but on the internet you're public enemy #1 because this place is like a candy shop for those who like to argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 10:42 PM
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Nah, I'd rather you made your own point but if you don't have one don't sweat it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 10:35 PM
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Its not quite wrong though
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 10:33 PM
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What point that murderers deserve sympathy but less so than other kinds of people?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 10:21 PM
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So when you feminists say sluts are better because x. Its just your fetish, gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 10:19 PM
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Actually I just think men who bitch about what you are talking about are little bitches. I just accept it as normal female behavior that even "bossy" females engage in.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 07:12 PM
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Oh I don't talk Marxian speak sorry. Virginity is about purity which is a valued concept throughout all cultures. The word fetish is used by Marxists to make normal things seem like some Freudian mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 07:09 PM
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Abortion is murder though and many non-red women also believe that. To use such a wedge issue as an example is laughable. Why the fuck would anyone care about the rights of a murderer over more important things? Literally I care about incels more than murderous women, I care more about centipedes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 07:04 PM
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Space_Boobs and Whiskey whoever used to make a lot more hardline feminist comments. Those are the only two names I can remember around here. I've also seen this happen in other subs. I am pretty overjoyed that feminism is obviously dying though. I think its death should be a national holiday
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 07:01 PM
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What is a well documented phenomenon?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 06:58 PM
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Certainly in some cases but thats not all, its just generally a chaotic outcome when a nations women embrace whoredom as a fashion trend
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 06:57 PM
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Well here in the US SJWs are trying to turn the US into Europe 2.0 and if you think the outrage is an exaggeration you just might not understand our culture well enough. Often times SJWs can be tied to anti-American agendas such as gun control and other seemingly off topic things that Europeans don't even think about
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 06:56 PM
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I wasn't actually ranting just giving my observations. And yes many here who now identify as moderates were more than willing to participate in really silly feminist talking points before it became essentially uncool to do. Now the new tactic is to claim we're all chasing spooks and feminism doesn't exist outside of reddit and youtube. Also this has happened with my actual friends irl as well. As I've said many times before I come from a radical leftist background myself so I have many friends w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 06:54 PM
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And how would you know that? You read a book by some guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 06:51 PM
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No one said its impossible to create a culture of degeneracy though. But if you look around the world most high civilizations have hated sluts for one reason or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 06:50 PM
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Obviously the sex will be better. If you're less experienced, then she can teach you I'm the man I'm the teacher. This is just a core part of my personality. I think its a good thing that sluts exist because like you say maybe some incel guys can punch up out of their league a bit. But for us men who prefer to be the "teacher" I'll pass. I don't even find the hot slut type interesting because growing up in poverty there were a ton of these types of girls around, they were my friends and family m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 06:45 PM
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Its a lot like the Nazi and fascist paranoia coming from the left. Maybe, just maybe there's more to this stuff. I find that BP'ers love to say "don't look over here nothing to see" so often that its to the point where I can't even tell if yall are lying about not dealing with feminism on a daily basis
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 06:41 PM
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The reason I know this is BS is because on this sub when I was blue a lot of you BP'ers were hardcore witht he feminism stuff, now that its losing the culture war its like all the BP'ers started becoming "moderate feminists". We see the same pattern play out with extreme Islamists and extreme communists. Once they start losing ground its hear no evil see no evil "Communism what? I'm just lil ol democratic socialist"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 06:39 PM
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You have to be able to make connections between modalities of thought and its end game. If you only view the things self labeled as feminism as opposed to seeing feminism as just one of many overt examples of the female imperative; then it won't make sense to you
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 06:36 PM
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Prohibition didn't create order though did it. Control isn't always about order
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 06:26 PM
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started using that terminology because I picked it up from rappers. complete opposite of that guy. joked
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 11:20 PM
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If not for liberals I'd probably forget they exist and I live in the South too. Its a bunch of hoopla over nothing. Anyone who isn't a biased idiot can tell that Islam has a much bigger violence problem than Christianity right now and for the past 100 years at the very least, theres no comparison. People can read into the Bible and color interpretations from Old Testament to contrive some sort of sininster violent ethos but fact is Jesus never once said lie to your enemy as if you were telling t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 11:05 PM
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If you ever come to New Orleans I can getyou micro dots
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 10:42 PM
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If its not an oil change its a window wiper change, a fence repair, a power wash of the side of the house, a clogged drain, a leaking AC compressor in the attic, setting up a gazebo in the back yard, setting up a hot tub, painting the fence, break fluid and power steering fluid, tire changes. These are all things I've done just this year and theres a lot lot more but I think you get the point. We pretty much DIY everything though
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 10:33 PM
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He doesn't do handy man work and fixes? What about light car repairs, oil changes etc? I'm always fixing shit around my house, then again I'm just a middle class prole we can't afford gardeners, house cleaning ladies or book organizers
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 10:22 PM
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I used to be into performance cars a lot. The attention guys give their cars is just crazy, there were only two female racers/tuners in my scene they came from single military dad households and had more typically masculine interests. Same with the music scene, I know plenty of female artists and musicians but hardly any of them if any at all gave a shit about their gear or equipment the way the dudes did. Women just knew what they liked as far as brands and left it like that. Us guys also tend …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 10:14 PM
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No theres a huge abundance of those for both men and women lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 10:01 PM
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Shit on all this crap. Give me the RAW super fat cows milk with the cream on the top. And a bowl of Frankenberry. Or just drink that shit with some pure unfiltered honey
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 09:56 PM
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Even the BP women here love to talk about their farm boys, guys who can fix a plumbing problem, looks better fixing a car than working out at the gym etc... Yalls tune changes with the wind depending on the topic at hand. If its about gym bros being objectively hotter the BP women will come out the wood work to give you a lesson on how "rough working hands" look better or what have you. It only makes sense that if you're doing the heavy physical chores you aint got time to do the less physical o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 09:52 PM
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Yeah but in your example the dude was just lazy af. I mean one thing 2 years ago? wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 09:49 PM
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The BP way is outlier ime. What Lewis described is like every healthy hetero relationship I've ever seen. And its also my own experience to the tee
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 09:48 PM
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Studies showing traditional gender roles help your sex life use older data, newer data does not support this Weird how the "data" always changes almost seemingly exactly with the mood and attitudes of the cultural zeitgeist. This is why Ifuckinghatescience anecdotally (which is all I give a shit about if I'm honest) traditional setups and redpilled relationships lead to way better sex lives. The more bluepilled the relationship the sex may or may not be more frequent but always a little weirder …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 09:43 PM
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Weird, I've always heard the opposite which is why its said that men "suffer in silence"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 09:42 PM
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Thats a pretty good analogy I like that. I've always thought that when discussing artificial intelligence after all the slog talk about deep neural nets and deep libraries the things these nerds always miss is emotion. It seems to me that emotion is what drives intelligence, the smarter the animal the more emotions it seems to have (humans, chimps, elephants, dolphins all high on emotionality)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 09:37 PM
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This guy gets it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 09:34 PM
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On the contrary emotion is the epitome of intelligence and logic. However where women tend to fuck up is that they can't control their love of outwardly expressing their emotions and feeding on other peoples emotions, instead of analyzing and introspecting on them the way men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 09:32 PM
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Its really not rational to believe everything true shows up in scientific literature. Take a course on epistemology or something to see how basic and dumb this idea is
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 09:30 PM
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All raw data gets filtered through a BP or RP lens in the end. Usually the stats never look good for the BP side but they explain it away by appealing to some unknown variable and it repeats over and over and over and over and over again
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 09:28 PM
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I think its because typical females and beta males know something about RP rings true, it nags them. But they can't believe even their own senses until some body of authorities signs off on it. Appeal to authority sums up BP in a nutshell
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 09:26 PM
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I think women aren't less capable they just can't resist emotional expression. They're addicted to expressing themselves its like a drug. Men are addicted to "knowing" things in and out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 09:21 PM
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Lack of woman philosophers compared to men. Lack of woman innovators and inventors compared to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 09:17 PM
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Honestly we don't know what would happen since we haven't had a large scale conventional war in a long time. I do know that military dudes get burned a lot by their wives though, not cucked but just straight up fucked over
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 09:16 PM
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Yall live very disconnected and unrooted lives then. Most people I know who move around that much have some kind of mental illness. Also my city is so badass its the place where all you assholes choose to move anyway and the locals stay rooted
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 09:14 PM
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You're always believing in dumb shit whats new
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 09:12 PM
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Forreal, the liberal white women here are very out of touch. Very elite subset of females on reddit. Typical for a feminist really, white and rich
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 09:09 PM
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Yeah they are. Chem engineer I know crammed hard and came out with his degree at 23 years old, got hired at a plant for around 120k (a lot of money here in Louisiana) and in two years he's had 3 raises and making about 180k plus random 12k bonuses for doing plant turn overs consistently.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 09:06 PM
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All of my oncologists were handsome dudes with piercing eyes. I even told one that I felt like his eyes were eating my soul and he looked really uncomfortable. Weird people
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 09:03 PM
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This is it right here. I'm willing to bet all of these 'published and partying hard" female chemists are not actually as serious about science as the true STEMlords. They don't invent new technologies, innovate or figure out how to better run an oil refinery or anything like that, they just publish "research" all their lives aka navel gaze about other peoples rehashed ideas and theories about chemistry. Part of the problem is that women seem to all still be under the illusion that the degree is …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 08:54 PM
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It was probably less competitive in terms of gross number of applicants. Seems like university was just way more chill overall in the 80s
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 08:49 PM
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She coasted on affirmative action and partied like a typical female thats nothing impressive
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 08:48 PM
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This is a big part of it. When I was beta I was disgusted by the idea of becoming a "muscled meathead". I was naturally skinnyand athletic why would I need that right? Wrong, testosterone is Gods gift to men I also have an omega schlub friend who plays in a sludge band, he's convinced working out is for narcissist and fags so he chooses to drink himself to death every night and fail with super hot women wash rinse repeat, actually scratch that he doesn't even bathe so no wash or rinse just repea…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 08:41 PM
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Most people imo just run on their culturally imposed software commands and it works well enough, can even produce a happy enough life if your health genetics are good. This makes it seem as if most people aren't rationalizing any of their day to day activities. I'm weary of calling it all genetic and predetermined Anyway I thought the point of this discussion and my main point was that being the only animals that rationalize/abstract/create language/create art we are undeniably a cut well above …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 08:32 PM
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Yeah but I'm not even interested in proving it people can believe what they want and be as foolish and deluded as they wish. Although I'm sure theres more than just this one line of evidence for Hypergamy anyway. People will believe what ever they want to believe according to ideology, no amount of proof makes a lick of difference
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 08:25 PM
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I just don't find these determinist arguments convincing because I've changed my mind and motivated myself to do things through pure rationality countless times pretty much every day really. You can just learn to catch using basic instinct but if you wanna be a really good baseball catcher you have to put your mind into learning different techniques. The concept of Skill and training/technique involves rationality itself. If we're talking about literally the only species that rationalizes theres…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 08:14 PM
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One obscure film then huh. Sounds interesting though
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 08:11 PM
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Wait I thought they had all omnipotent white christian hetero patriarchal power
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 08:11 PM
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She'll seduce him with bomb pussy and tornado head. He'll go over his RP checklist realize it'd be a bad move but do it anyway because of thirst
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 08:08 PM
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Not really for me. Then again I was committed throughout my whole musical career and didn't actively seek out female attention. But I know whole bands of losers who couldn't get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 04:18 PM
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Ime the guys you're describing are betas and "fat poachers". A guy like this just hurt one of my heavier set female friends, schmoozed a lot about "movies and art" he was a legit nerd but all he wanted to do was tap and she fell for it. Guy was a smug ass too
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 04:15 PM
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Ime players aren't just men who score high on masculinity they're also men who are less inhibited and more impulsive. I know plenty of MWGTOW types that are strong, assertive, socially dominant, do mma, work physical jobs, make good money. They just live in their heads more and see themselves as above the Chad dumb dumb or alpha guy who craves female validation. I'm not even saying they're right. I was that guy for a long time too, but fact is I have good relationships and friendships with Chad …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 04:02 PM
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I would say both men and women all have sex/gender distinct and dimorphic base animal instincts that they can transcend above or choose to fall back on as an excuse when strategically prudent. What I mean is that yes AWALT and AMALT the difference is that some people are intelligent enough and ethical enough to transcend their beast nature, others are intelligent enough to use that beast nature as an excuse to act immorally and others aren't even intelligent enough or lack all incentive to rise …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 03:58 PM
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The only problem is that no one takes you seriously because liberals have ditched morality for moral relativism. Your morality has become centered around moralizing about people who are trying to act morally and pathological non-judgement of anyone except white males
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 03:50 PM
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I don't even know what it means to be controlled by fear
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 03:47 PM
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Fair enough my apologies. I'll say this, the context was obvious to me specifically because I come from a majority black impoverished area. I forget how many rich white liberals that would rather take a plane over my neighborhood we have around here
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 03:42 PM
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Thats pretty funny and I've thought the same thing before. I hope trans women keep doing it too just to piss off women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 03:34 PM
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I think its just a reaction to the fact that this same story is about all we get. where are the female dominated dystopian fictions in popular media?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 03:32 PM
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"the personal is political"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 03:31 PM
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There's a popular connection between religion and men in general, white men especially because they're the officially sanctioned punching bag. Its something about how men are the creators of religion and all systems of control because they're deeply afraid of womens sexuality. Like most feminist lies its actually half true and inverted. Its true that men create systems of control and enjoy forming order out of chaos, the other side of the coin is that women enjoy making chaos out of order. Both …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 03:21 PM
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I don't know this is the least interesting redpill topic to me though (players, studs, sluts) To me its all pretty obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 03:16 PM
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Thats not my standard for black people in general, thats the standard for the context of the assertion (no one wakes up with a six pack, unless your black) I don't know maybe you're just on the spectrum. Okay thats mean I take it back, but yeah com'on it isn't obvious to you that he isn't talking about all black people here?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 03:12 PM
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I don't think so. To me its pretty clear that a slut is a girl who tosses away her worth and sells herself short for validation, and a stud is a guy that tosses away true responsibilities for sexual conquest. There are many high value men who could be studs but have no time for fucking around with thots and bops
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 03:10 PM
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Forreal it needs a new word
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 03:06 PM
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Betas and omegas wanna see hot women get slashed to pieces. Alphas wanna be the guy who saves them from the monster and gets p00n after
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 03:04 PM
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I think thats the point. Its actually not a likely male fantasy, an outlier fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 03:02 PM
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These dudes are all pretty handsome and the women are ight
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 02:58 PM
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Seems to me that cuckoldry being more likely in the lower classes proves hypergamy. What would be your explanation?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 02:49 PM
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Except none of us knows what really happened. All we really know is that come new years we check out the live feed and people from China to Easter Island to the middle east are dancing around celebrating "2017" 2017 years since what? Christ. The whole globalized world is built on Christianity lmao. Also we don't live in a Greek states democracy its a constitutional republic which is a uniquely Christian idea, nothing the Romans nor the Greeks practiced.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 02:45 PM
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No its about context, I know what they're talking about so theres no need to say "Not all black people" that shit is annoying and everyone knows its not all black people its low income lifestyle. We all know what they're talking about, Lil Timmy on the corner of Franklin street gas station with a Big Red soda and a cheeseburger rapping out loud to himself shirtless with a six pack. Theres less white people in that environment so its not noticed as a white trend. I was that "white" kid though so.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 02:39 PM
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Which are real things
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 02:36 PM
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then why cant they undo abortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 02:32 PM
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Huh? Dude you just drop micro dot on the pressed pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 02:29 PM
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Degrees of separation. If you slept with 100 people there's absolutely no way your circle wouldn't know and probably people outside your own circle maybe thousands of people would be clued in through gossip and what not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 02:28 PM
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Except I didn't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 02:17 PM
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They built the country you're typing this from and the enlightenment. Most of the best scientists were Christians and Muslims. All you got as examples is ancient history which is mostly interpretation not a real provable science
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 02:14 PM
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You mean for the guys who have to swoop in and take care of the kids whos dad died valiantly on the battlefield and can never live up to his badassness. Yeah they get cucked
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 02:09 PM
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Oh please. First off KKK when was the last KKK terror bombing? Second off they aren't even a Christian militant group they're cultural Christians and Freemasons though
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 02:06 PM
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I wasn't talking about a black experience, I had the same experience as the kids I'm talking about which is why I was also a ripped little skinny kid. Get two cats let one stay inside then let the other roam the streets and pick fights with neighborhood cats. The latter one will get ripped af just being wild
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 02:04 PM
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Thats because you've already rationalized a pitch catch technique and now you just get the gist. Thinking in gestalts allows you to accomplish complex rationalizations on the fly
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 02:01 PM
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I agree with that title on the face of it. Do you agree the same can be said for women or are you a hypocrite? Take enough of these pills and you will arrive at the "silver pill" which I'm coining to mean a focus on restoring religion/spirituality/tradition/God to society because the sex drive is not "liberation" as the post-moderinists sold us, indeed it is death
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 01:35 AM
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Feminine grace is important when evaluating super fit women. If they lack feminine grace its worth fuck all
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 01:34 AM
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They know about it but rail against because they prefer being whiners
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 01:32 AM
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Yeah most likely it is. Science of this type is the new religion. I only believe in Science that creates practical and applicable technologies. The rest is as Planck said, just poetry
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 01:31 AM
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Very few thats just facts
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 01:29 AM
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Still stretching out those 17 abortion clinic bombings and tales abut the Crusades to say Christians are violent lmao Atheist communists racked up the biggest K count the past century. Religion/God aint got nothing to do with it. Its ideology thats the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 01:28 AM
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RedPill isn't a moral/value paradigm. RedPilled people with different value systems will fight eachother to th death. Blues wil lattempt to appease, but appeasing Islam doesn't work its too red
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 01:25 AM
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My answer is that true reds enjoy a good enemy. Its blue to think that everyone should just get along when values are incompatible
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 01:23 AM
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Women don't rape. Beta males rape and desperate prison alphas also true prison fags
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 01:16 AM
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Through specific ideological filters yes. Its like when psychologists do IQ tests, Big 5 tests and then prove their conclusion by tweaking the language rather than admitting their construct was bs from square one
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 01:15 AM
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As a former male feminist yes it is. Its exactly just the shut up and listen style feminism repackaged. Also Marxists and pseudo Marxians love that word liberation and jizz it over everything they touch so its a clear indicator
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 01:13 AM
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Sounds like pie in the sky morality to me. By your ethos deadbeat dads are saints and so are sluts who abort
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 01:05 AM
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They will because they are the same thing, pro victims
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 01:04 AM
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The stuff resulting from Kinsey
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 01:03 AM
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Its post-modernist BS thats why its always so vague and "fluid". "Sexist" term means nothing if you're genuinely interested in knowledge
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 01:01 AM
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Women like to experience things and men like to manipulate things. Thats why we're happy with the guitar and get endless return value from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 12:59 AM
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The real take away is that deadbeat men are the direct analog to over educated career women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 12:52 AM
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I prefer wise women over the over "educated" type
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 12:50 AM
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I read that in a history oriented subreddit but I forget which one sorry. I actually attempted to argue against it thinking it absurd and I got grilled. I swore the average military grunt could do it and they're were like "you know they were 6 ft long bows with a draw sometimes over 200lbs right?" Apparently people were mules back then strong af
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 12:43 AM
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Undervalued for women too I was going to make a thread on that actually
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 12:35 AM
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Environmentally induced psychosomatic testosterone boost from heightened threat senses living in the ghetto
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 12:32 AM
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They couldn't reach the aesthetic heights but they could reach the physical. Its said that only the top 10 percentile of men today can draw an original Welsh Longbow
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 12:31 AM
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veins start showing at the forearms, multiple veins and striation of both biceps and triceps, defined 6 pack without straining/tightening
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 12:29 AM
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You forgot the 50y/o man
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 12:25 AM
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A lot of shredded dudes have baby soft hands they don't work hard anywhere else but the gym
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 12:24 AM
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Joked. Fedor strongfat = ultimate male physique
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 12:22 AM
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So how was The Situation in bed?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 12:18 AM
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Observing that women act akin to sheep is not psychopathy or "monster" behavior this is where yall are twisted
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 12:11 AM
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So all they need is an MAOI
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 12:09 AM
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The real twist is that Dark Triads are wimps and can't fight
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 12:06 AM
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Most people others label as psychopaths are actually just people smart enough to ignore the bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 12:04 AM
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boredom
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 12:03 AM
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she rather the bomb throwers, she kept it trill doe
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 12:02 AM
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They'd rather make entertainment from my words how deeply they disrespect words words twisted into turds sold off as Hanging Gardens of Babylon
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 12:01 AM
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Mine are pretty "extreme" though like even by cuckservative standards, even by alt-right standards maybe. Take neo-platonic virtue ethics merge it with Orthodox Christianity but built on a background in Satanism, hardcore ultra violence/anarchist illegalism and you might start to get an idea. I was also quite a luddite for some time but now I see technology in more of a Marxian historical materialism sort of way despite being rabbidly anti-Marxist. As Jordan Peterson might say I went to hell to …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 11:55 PM
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bluepill stayed bluepill
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 11:44 PM
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lmao Goldman was a redpilled uggo though. She totes believed in gender roles
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 11:41 PM
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I think they mean like the lower caste literally murders female born babies
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 11:37 PM
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The map is not the territory
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 11:36 PM
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Maths to dazzle the fools
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 11:32 PM
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We're all standing in front of the actual world. He also conveniently thought the world ended where he would get his ass whooped
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 11:32 PM
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Pretty much how I am now but way more confident in my beliefs and harboring a lot less guilt about preferring feminine and fit women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 11:29 PM
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As a stand alone outlook? Of course. Thing is society is very polarized right now and my own personal philosophy can only be described as "redpilled" and extreme because of where the overton window now sits.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 11:26 PM
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beta fags but not in the gay sense how bow dah
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 11:23 PM
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I have a problem where I'm actually rationalizing way too much, too in my head to frank. I don't believe in your Leninist Bio determinism
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 11:22 PM
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He's prob a dweller. Nothing would change his life short of an attack on the power grid
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 11:19 PM
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This sounds good but my own experience refutes it. My life and relationship drastically improved after finding RPW (I find RPW is better "advice" for guys if you just watch and learn) And to some extent RP especially the male empowerment aspects pulled me right out of the self hating muck. And STILL I realize that technology or actually to be more precise the modal expression of 21st century technology (I don't believe in the progressive telos) is the real culprit here
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 11:16 PM
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Duh Mail Gayyss
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 11:13 PM
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Only incorrect thing you listed is anti-semitism. I used to think Hitler was right but actually he asked the wrong question. It should have been the "white european woman question". No one contributes to degeneracy the way white european women do. Their thirst for minstrel entertainment and gay bottom pets is limitless
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 11:08 PM
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Plus as some of our Chinese and Asian users here have stated RedPill isn't a thing there because everyone already thinks that way lmao Its such a hoot to me that BP/Liberals/Socialists are the most Eurocentric and racist bunch in the world. Now it makes sense that Planned Parenthood wanted to exterminate the negro
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 10:54 PM
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No. I'm ex-Nihilist/atheist turned Orthodox Christian and most people just think I'm trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 10:52 PM
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and it's not because there's a feminist conspiracy to keep RP ideas out of academia Prove it. I just watched a bunch of academics scramble to write a rebuttal to the transracialism dissertation. They were trying to prove their conclusion by begging the question right off the bat. PhD's a bunch of worms, so afraid hurting gender non binary feefees while also condemning "transracialism" because that disorder is the cool acceptable one since its "cultural appropriation". Problem with modern science…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 10:40 PM
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Not true but even if it were ask yourself who the main innovators of technology were. I'm JOKED
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 10:32 PM
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So what is left just full communism?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 10:31 PM
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Maybe for you its paper thin. I don't know relative to what though, curious what your rubric is because we're the only animals that can rationalize at all, so whats paper thin and whats dictionary thick?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 10:29 PM
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They still are but at such a macro scale we can't see it. Yes we have "womens rights" and yes we have HR dept. but all of this is maintained and held together by the brute force of male enforcers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 09:47 PM
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Thats me and my wife too. I'm happy for you both
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 09:41 PM
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If he were in a room alone with her yes. As for the gun thing, well that supports my point, for women to ever be at the same level of men it takes propping up by male angencies like police force and Gov or at the very least male inventions and innovations like swords and guns. Just admit it, men are stronger and more dominant naturally
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 09:40 PM
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Only to Europe not the rest of the world. What you call US Libertarianism is true Liberalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 09:33 PM
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No because if Bossy bitch and your cousin were in a room together only one would be the dominant one guess who. Bossy bitch could only talk down to Mr. Alpha at work because of a greater network of patriarchs that will put him in jail using combined force
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 09:16 PM
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She needs the state and HR dept. to prop up her supposed "domination". Essentially its a social construct
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 09:07 PM
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Theres a reason manifestos are written by criminals and rebels alike. Outliers who couldn't fit in
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 09:06 PM
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Those Hindus would be right too. Feminine/Masculine is like Northpole/Southpole Its a metaphysical polarity
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 09:01 PM
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You're the OG man. This is what I was talking about when I said RP would be better put into Art rather than debate. I'm giving people genius shit for free but they refuse to see it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 08:59 PM
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Why so quick to disbelieve? I'm in a similar boat to him and its always the same, when an actual "alpha" RP guy chimes in and backs up Incels its because he must also be an Incel, actually were just all men and thats why we tend to think alike
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 08:56 PM
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Men seek the approval of individual women of their desire over the approval of the group as a whole. Women don't do this, they seek approval from the group to preselect mates and then they get desire once approved.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 08:54 PM
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Look at any battery powered device you have. The on/off switch is marked by I/O Thats in and out. The line is the in the ON and the O is the out the Off. This theme is metaphysical not just a lie told to control women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 08:46 PM
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And I'm pretty sure thats everyone but its easier to pretend its just me
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 08:43 PM
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Beta males and male feminists, which suits my own theories perfectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 08:42 PM
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Yeah thats what I'm saying, that aligns more with the male fantasy (desiring enthusiastic consent)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 07:09 PM
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I literally have never met a person like this. Thats seriously crazy. Its funny you brought up your grandfather though because my grandmother WAS that crazy cat lady. I still love/loved her and she was great but she was also a hippie acid head free love person in the late 60s and so was my grandfather (they never married) I loved my gmaw but she definitely followed that pattern of being a spinster/free lover and wound up with about 5 cats not including the neighborhood cats that didn't come in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 07:07 PM
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Yes but thats because you fear going to jail or in the case of female rape fantasy you know that the only guys wanting to rape you are vile low value weirdos, not because you actually don't desire it in the perfect or ideal circumstance.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 07:04 PM
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Actually, this is probably the correct answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 07:01 PM
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Sounds like regular irl hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 06:57 PM
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It would be more like a drug addiction though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 06:56 PM
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Morally speaking I just think its run of the mill degeneracy nothing special. Toys/Robots will never replace human+human sex and romance. Why? Because of the often overlooked spiritual/psychological act of domination/submission. You cannot dominate the mind of a toy. If you want a robot to worship you give you everything you desire its the push of a button, which can never truly satisfy the male ego of work ethic and pride in his conquest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 06:50 PM
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It makes sense, they don't have to play the hpergamy game so hard. They can afford to be very choosy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 06:40 PM
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ego validation/male domination We need a bit of it to feel powerful and motivated
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 06:37 PM
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There's also the slight possibility that they can get pregnant by Chad and trap him, thus can ignore his fore warnings about non commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 06:34 PM
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Maybe you're right because that is how I judge girls on a scale of femininity rather than physicality. And they say men only objectify!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 06:25 PM
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I wouldn't even do anything degrading with her shes so bad imo
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 06:21 PM
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If you've had "wicked" fantasies then you have indeed "thought about doing something immoral or illegal". You're using ambiguous language to cover that up when you use the word fantasy in a fairytale sense rather than the more appropriate sense of having a desire
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 06:15 PM
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And to live their domination urges
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 06:12 PM
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Yall are rich af gotdamn.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 06:07 PM
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No they would be seeking the men who have it all (looks+status+intelligence+strength) And that is exactly what they do. Same way men flock towards women who have it all. However most men have to settle, plenty of women can maybe get pregnant by a high value male if they offer up enough sexual gratification
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 06:04 PM
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Bingo. Humans aren't just animals when will people learn, no other animal can be compared to us just on the basis of our complex language.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 06:01 PM
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Sorry but I'm coming from a position of ignorance because I can't wrap my mind around it. Was it a female MMA fighter versus a total beta male? Even if so I couldn't see how he'd have room for complaint
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 05:56 PM
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Yeah I have it was posted on Voat a few months ago. I know what "they" are saying I'm just asking you to think about it a little deeper. Not for nothing Loved Nintendo , never thought I was an Italian plumber Again this is more akin to the Tolkien/Star Wars description of fantasy, the way the word fantasy is used in terms of human sexuality is more like desire+mental imagery
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 05:53 PM
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Of course they say that. It wouldn't be very polite to do that study and then accuse over half the population of desiring something illegal and universally hated. Truth is though that behind the "fantasy" is a real desire but people are unconscious of why for the most part. So we say things like how reality and fantasy aren't the same things, thats because its more like desire+mental imagery than pure fantasy in the Tolkien sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 05:33 PM
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In the mind of the "modern woman" I would agree but inside every modern woman is the mind of the natural woman who isn't so concerned with the things you outlined. Most men are terrible at being romantic even if they've had lots of experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 05:30 PM
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Yall don't see the pathology here?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 05:21 PM
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Oh BDSM scene are outlier weirdos ime. Mostly fetishes resulting from depravity and powerlessness in day to day life. I'm speaking about how more than half of normal women have rape fantasies
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 05:19 PM
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I think for her the domination is more on her part though thats the key difference. Almost any male can physically overpower a female so thats not too special.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 05:17 PM
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Just how physically weak are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 05:15 PM
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Hmm good question. I tend to think men raping men is just fucked up and only happens in prison or war/conquest. Men are so DTF all the time its almost impossible for that fantasy to flourish. Even in the context of the Roman and Samurai warrior culture I don't think their pupils were raped in the same way women fantasize about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 05:11 PM
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It sounds like you're agreeing with me. It seems she just wants to submit. All of womens rape fantasies involve guys they of course already desire (very high value and masculine) so their consent is already there but secretly, because she wants him to value her so much he loses control of his senses and fucks her without asking. The inverse male fantasy is being that guy, but having the girl beg for it (lose her senses and beg to be fucked)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 05:05 PM
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How can a woman rape you? With a strap on?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 05:03 PM
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Don't you say your sexuality is closer to that of a man though?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 04:59 PM
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You got yourself an omega
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 04:57 PM
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Power is making her submit and fall to her knees, not sneaking up and overpowering her (anyone even omegas could do this)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 04:56 PM
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Then don't beat yourself up or put yourself down. If rape is the opposite of what you desire you may be more alpha than you think
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 04:55 PM
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Its not though. There's no difference between fantasy and reality when it comes to desires, its a polite lie we tell ourselves to appear sane
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 04:54 PM
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Domination isn't rape for a man its desperation. Domination for a man is more like being such a sexual god that women start acting totally unlike they usually do, dropping to their knees and begging for the shaft (barely ever happens even for top men I would imagine) Its about by passing courtship completely (betabux ethos) Its about making her submit to your sexual aura and setting her mind ablaze the same way a stupidly hot girl with a perfect figure does to us. You know, when your mind is on …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 04:52 PM
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Never have. Rape is desperation for a man. Females love that shit though they like the idea of being so valued a guy can't control himself
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 04:44 PM
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Healthy sexual relationships dont work that way. In healthy relationships, men and women, both with positive qualities, Says who. We know thats the western ideal now but its not producing the greatest results either
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 04:41 PM
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Get rid of it, put it in ideological jail
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 04:38 PM
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Maybe I'm thinking of morning after pill
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 04:31 PM
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The women who you call sexist. They might believe you're the sexist and misogynist
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 06:39 PM
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I guess I just don't understand it because I honestly do not give a fuuu if someone speaks "hatefully" towards me or all men in general. When I get into conversations I'm too busy picking peoples brains and exploring my curiosities to take things so personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 06:26 PM
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intersectional feminism has rejected essentialism for a long time now
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 06:12 PM
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People can only empower or disempower themselves not depend on others to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 06:06 PM
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You aren't keeping with me here. Pearls at swine
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 06:04 PM
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Something I can't even relate to. Main reason I don't want to make my own Twitch stream is because I hate attention I've had undeserved attention my whole life because I come from a family of artists.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 12:52 AM
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Thats the essence of female mentality imo. I feel like I need approval more than attention fuck attention
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 12:41 AM
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Lets say there was a masculinist movement would you be anti-that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 12:38 AM
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Funny part is that most of the people who gave us the tech you worship now were wackos who hated science as some sort of community. Tesla, JJ Thompson, Newton. All occultists, diestic Christians everything you think to be backwards and unfit for progress. Science has become a religion this isn't even a debate its something I know for a fact. When people say they believe in science not a silly God, what they mean is that they believe in authority not the scientific method of empiricism and experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 12:36 AM
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I'm including womens solipsism into this too don't worry
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 12:32 AM
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Nah I'd kick his ass out too. Mostly because it'd be disrespectful af, go find somewhere else to do that shit fucking bum
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 12:30 AM
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Another on point post
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 12:27 AM
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Not true. My position has always been that despite 2 parents being superior to 1, a mom is better at raising a girl to adulthood and a dad is better at raising a son from his teens onward
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 07:21 PM
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I got it. He's talking about how we all measure ourselves by our sexual success early on, only to later measure our children by their refraining from behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 07:16 PM
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This depends on your ideological goggles. Maybe it really does come down to a just world fallacy "hes envious of what he didn't get" OR maybe he's right, he's being a father and putting his foot down, tough love because he knows his daughter is fucking up her future. It seems like today one of the prevailing anti-RP ideologies is to be playing the pathological enabler
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 07:13 PM
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I believe the world is full of double standards for a reason. The sexes are different and it leads to double standards. Of course as an individual you're entitled to reject such a relationship, I just think that women seem to handle it better and its probably due to natural gender roles. Men are wired to seek out many more partners, women can rationalize complete sexual freedom but it was never something that paid off for much of human history and even now imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 07:04 PM
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Lol animals definitely lack reproductive consciousness They seem to lack consciousness altogether. However their sex organs are there for the same reason ours are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 07:01 PM
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Theres too much to chew on here for me right now but. See this is the bullshit that people who like Nietzsche get led into. It really is bullshit. If you manipulate everyone into believing the sun goes round the earth you haven't changed reality. You've just unmoored people from it. It doesn't matter how much they believe it to be true.... When they send a rocket out of low earth orbit it's going to go the wrong way because they've come unglued from reality. All the spin-meisters int he world ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 06:58 PM
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Not even 5 years ago BP'ers were singing a different tune though, it didn't work it didn't exist (RP) Now its getting popular with gen Z and older millennials the tune is "yeah kind of funny you guys never even saw this obvious shit, bunch of aspies".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 06:47 PM
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Which is how it should be imo
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 06:45 PM
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Young boys know how to be their birth sex yes. The BP brainwash really occurs starting highschool when you first have to apply those things to the opposite sex, you fail maybe and someone "Teaches" you to be the "right way".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 06:42 PM
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Women do care A LOT about overall prevailing social zeitgeist. If RP were the prevailing zeitgeist women would prob go back to being the biggest and best slut shamers ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 06:35 PM
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Why, today cucking is big enough to be a cool arrangement. It seems to me that whenever one sex gets over representation the opposite sex has to cuck in some way (mistresses of the past) I do think women are more okay with it though as long as they still get love and support from a high value man
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 06:33 PM
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Its akin to "knowing" everything about astronomy when you've haven't ever had experience behind a telescope. They know to be an alpha but they don't know what it takes and what fakes
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 06:25 PM
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Yes because I'm not sure everyone is ready for the truth. This is basically the position of the illumanati. Sometimes I find myself throwing pearls of knowledge at swine but later regretting it because I'm exposing myself. There's a reason the wisest people learned to keep their mouths shut
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 06:22 PM
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Look at the Republican party right now. They're completely untethered from reality on a host of issues. It was hard to predict how that was going to hurt them, only to say that it would eventually catch up with them. Turned out... Trump was the mechanism. I believe they're firmly planted in reality, you believe you have the scientific absolute truth about reality and since they go against your ideology they can't possibility be "tethered to reality". Fact is they are in reality and they're creat…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 06:15 PM
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Feminists are the only ones who refuse to value motherhood and basic biological distinctions about being female. When they force women into the proletariat ranks they're devaluing women even more.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 06:04 PM
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Communism was responsible for those deaths. People just hate to hear that because it proves that secular moralities can be just as terrible as religious ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 06:02 PM
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Are you an anti-masculinist?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 05:58 PM
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What Bs are worried by or disturbed by is people's tendency to look at the most extreme, unpopular positions ever held or advanced by a feminist as representative or necessary to feminism in its entirety. Doesn't help that a feminist will never side with an anti feminist in a sub like CMV. They're "disturbed" by the particular radical views of a few feminists but instead of being "disturbed" by the feminists that say it they're instead redirecting their disturbia towards people calling it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 05:53 PM
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But it is a difficult connection to make since a) not all sex leads to babies I just find this theory pretty hard to believe because even animals seem to know it. Also not all seeds planted grow into plants but they absolutely still understood that seeds often lead to plants. Likewise for impregnation
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 05:41 PM
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Surgical removal of a testical, I think thats all it means but maybe theres more to it idk
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 05:37 PM
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Ok my bad I didn't know that wasn't your case. But yes that is what I was trying to point out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 05:36 PM
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And how would an atheistic or secular explanation be any better? You say yourself we can only rationalize why biology works the way it does we cannot know. So any organizational,operational and performative ideology is going to fall into this trap of "making up meaning". Read Nietzsche if you haven't, science and secular humanism wont save us
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 05:35 PM
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I don't know I think you're overstating a lot. Like just even the notion that the USA is an anomaly of "rigid authoritarian Christianity". If I'm looking for authoritarianism in todays world a logical analysis almost always points me towards rather secular institutions like mainstream science paradigms universities and emphasis on unproven secular moralities like "multiculturalism". Certainly science has a tighter grasp on what people believe to be true today.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 05:27 PM
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I figured it out years ago but pretty much forgot even why. Modern synthesis of biology was a paradigm adopted at an almost religious level, the roots of what we built our evolutionary theories on initially would not have allowed for new discoveries like Epigenetics or Horizontal Gene Transfer in distinct species. Put it this way, if in the 1920s we discovered epigenetics and HGT among other thing we now know, we'd probably be calling ourselves Lamarckians or something. It seems to be Darwinism …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 05:23 PM
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Thats interesting. But maybe its true for every ethnicity all the same
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 05:17 PM
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I'm pretty sure ancient people were quite capable of great wisdom. They were just working in a time where technology hadn't grown exponentially the way it does today in a more connected world, which gives the appearance that they were really really dumb and silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 05:15 PM
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I don't think it's moral for the government to force you to give me a kidney, either. People generally should have the right to their own body. I agree but thats a matter of the degree of justice. What we're talking about here is justice, it would be overkill to force me to give you my kidney (because state justice should always consider mercy) But I do think I should be punished in some way if I were to purposefully destroy your kidney. This is consistent with my own view that we do not murder …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 05:08 PM
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His supporters are far right, though. Fanatics, racists, anti multiculturalists, anti-immigration, anti-abortion What do you think about the various arguments on why multiculturalism and abortion being the actual racist ideologies? There's a lot of evidence to support it imo. The fact that most of us lean left only mean we are progressive This an important distinction about telos. A lot of people and myself included do not buy into progressivism as an ideology either. Its not apparent to me that…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 04:57 PM
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Its a fast metastasizing cancer usually found in women its very deadly for women and mine was stage late 3 before I found it (testes), its quite rare in men and like I said I was their first case. I had an orchiectomy by that same oncologist (she was an awesome surgeon and I thank the team for that) I haven't had a CT or CAT scan in over a year now but I'd venture to guess its still gone, haven't had any problems. My last scan showed only one 1mm nodule in my right lung which qualifies as pretty…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 02:29 AM
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You know that a shit ton of pharma drugs come from herbs/molds/fungus? Traditional Chinese Medicine works. But the pharma hold on society and the appeal to shill authority is so strong that some of my friends and family watched me cure my own cancer after quitting chemotherapy because it was having no effect. They still be it was the doctors In 4 months I cured it by throwing everything at it including making my own extracts from the SourSop fruit and Rick Simpson Oil. My oncologists were stunne…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 02:10 AM
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Ignorance to the point of malevolence
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 02:00 AM
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Maybe its just me but I wouldn't automatically dismiss a girl who said "all men are liars who exploit women" I have a good sense of self so I'm not going to take offence at generalizations, usually people have a reason for thinking like they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:55 AM
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RP is simply the essence of the truth of the matter. What you do with that truth and where else you take it is what I'm most interested in. The polarization and reality of female/male have bigger implications than just getting laid. RP helped my own relationship a lot so I do owe it that. Being RedPilled TRP way is good because most of us think about sex a lot so redpilling your mind on sexuality leads to redpills in other areas you may not have given thought to
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:52 AM
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No I haven't but I've always known it was a rackett. Cocaine Capitalism is a good one too
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:48 AM
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Trump is a centrist.. but I suspect most of us are liberal. Why do you ask? Just confirming BP ideology Also, I'm sure you have a very convincing list of red pillers who are "liberals" GreaseyPole is a socialist far left of liberal
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:46 AM
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Good for him I suppose
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:44 AM
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If you did, the government still couldn't force you to give me a kidney. True but my argument is moral in nature not legal. Slavery was once legal and okay with the government too. Until people made a sufficient moral case against it. That's beside the question. The point here is that even when you treat fetuses like individuals, they still don't have the right to the use of another person's body. No because when you treat fetuses like humans/persons (the correct word here) it means the mother d…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:39 AM
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what moral/ethical axiom leads you to believe misogyny is inherently bad/evil?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:30 AM
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You killed it honestly, especially this Now imagine people are all saying "cats do not like string" or "some cats do not like string" or "it is wrong to dangle string in front of cats". That is what The Blue Pill is, it is the indoctrination of those types of thoughts. This is all it is, nothing less nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:28 AM
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Sum it up the way an annoying philosopher would. Like "Non-Kantian Transcendent Idealism"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:26 AM
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Gay isn't a gender
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:24 AM
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And what if they call you sexist/misogynist? Who's right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:24 AM
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ideology
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:23 AM
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Can you point me to a BP'er with far right views? There are socialist RP'ers on here, libertarians and alt-right too
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:21 AM
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Can you show me a BP'er with far right views? Because I can name RP'ers here that cover the whole spectrum
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:20 AM
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Not really because "elites" exist whether they're called illuminati or not. (Its the society of Occulists get it right) Or lets put it this way. Some people have more power than others, and then a smaller group has even more power/influence than even them
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:18 AM
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You got EXPOSED
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:15 AM
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(men wanted virgins but didnt consciously know why) No they knew the reason you stated and also because of its metaphysical/spiritual alignment with purity, purity is big in a lot of religions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:13 AM
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Judaism isn't the only religion with marriage consecration and veneration of female virginity. Those things are in practically all world religions
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:11 AM
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Not being able to separate statements from actions is a BP curse
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:07 AM
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There's a reason most atheists tend to fall within predictable ideologies/quasi-religions though (scientism, rationalism, libertarianism, materialism)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:04 AM
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I don't know enough about that field but I'm assuming they just hit a bump of coke and say fuck it, next time?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 01:00 AM
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Comes from odd experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 12:59 AM
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but isn't time = money?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 12:58 AM
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What is "it" in this context? Replication crises Who are "they" are what exactly are they withholding? Cause I really doubt they would actually devolop technologies and demonstrate principles to never do anything with them. "They" are the actual geniuses that have hemispherical connectivity, usually occultists and part of fraternal societies, government contracts especially in defense/military. The PhD holding cargo cultists (90%) of scientists are just gatekeepers who keep looking into and nave…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 12:55 AM
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Ezra Levant is a better self hating Jew than Chimp
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 12:50 AM
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Give me the thought provoking over another Sam "we're still waiting on the neurologist but I'm confident science will give us objective morality" Harris type doofuses. Neurology is actually honestly prob a bunch of BS too. fMRI Brain scanning has been proven to be a load of shit and people like Sam used to rely on that shit back in the gap. Now he says "thats the good thing about science its always changing" Please everyone think about that statement for a while
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 12:49 AM
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I agree but only because I don't believe in Darwinian evolution
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 12:40 AM
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Everyone is different but behavior is modal depending on biology and environment
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 12:37 AM
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Time
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 12:36 AM
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Then you must never rock the boat. If you do anything with a public image (say Twitch streaming) you'll get doxxed and harassed by feminists/socialists. It seems to me that since feminism is dying in 2017 the new "feminist" position seems to be "don't look over there, we're a small group lighten up its not even something we think about". Yeah right. I was alive in 2012 and feminists have definitely made my life worse in some ways
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 12:34 AM
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Its not limited to sociology but even the hard sciences + medical science. I know an engineer that swears they withhold real technologies and novel principles all the time in the hard sciences. Scientism. Welcome to your new God
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 12:30 AM
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You laugh at this but Derrida actually said something similar 40 years ago. Its "critical theory" that plenty of philosophy types take seriously, he called it Phallagocentrism
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 12:28 AM
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Only ethical option is making murder illegal again
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 12:19 AM
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Too bad so sad. We all know the primary function of sex. Its no excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 12:18 AM
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I'm anti-plan B or any contraceptive that kills the zygote/potential human with its own unique DNA from mom and dad. I have to be in order to stay philosophically/morally consistent since for me the clearest and most obvious demarcation point would be zygote. A lot of women didn't choose to have a baby, they weren't given the education to understand or respect Slut walk! Yay u go gurl!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 12:18 AM
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Say I need a kidney to continue living. Would it be right for the government to force you to give me one of your kidneys? Did I fuck up your kidney? Or maybe I have some condition that requires me to constantly be tethered to someone in order to live. Would it be right for the government to force you to tether yourself to me for several months? Did that someone give you that condition? So even if fetuses were individuals (one idea that must be true for "abortion is murder" to make any sense), th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 12:08 AM
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By being outside of the relationship looking in. Its not a secret to any of us, the people I'm thinking of I brought it up once at a party and they both just kept restating the fact that they endorse egalitarian relationships. They "believe" in equality. Okay, then why ya girl runnin you breh? I don't care what they do but to me it just seems like a nice little lie
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 11:27 PM
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Gay men don't because they're bros too
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 11:25 PM
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polarization is good because it forces people to realize that something is ridiculous in the world. Forces us to rethink what we stand for
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 09:37 PM
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Don't lesbians have a higher break up rate?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 09:34 PM
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Believe whatever makes you feel good is the liberal idea. In my experience though? Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 09:23 PM
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We're comfortable with femsplaining as an absurd reaction/parody but logically we know its dumb af unlike feminists who are serious
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 09:22 PM
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And I'm pretty sure their profits are suffering for it. Same with Red Bull, ESPN and Marvel who are all now putting on their MAGA hats
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 09:15 PM
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Rad fems and TERFs are the ones who get thrown under the bus and compared to nazis and fascists. I don't think your "no true feminist" case here is helping the point
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 09:10 PM
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Who was literally the father of LEFTISM. A brutal Jacobin revolutionary. Also notice that in the 20th century post-modernism came from where? Continental (French&German) philosophy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 09:09 PM
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You're right. And like I've said before an Alpha is also a male who can get sex, get commitment AND raise kids. They also sort of just naturally lead groups of friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 08:58 PM
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I have had a beer with a guy who openly admitted to being a RPer. This has all come a long way from a few years ago when the standard BP line (with evidence no less) was that RP'ers only live on the internet. Do you think there is a redpill culture shift happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 08:50 PM
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Funny part is that not one of these bullet points is as outrageous as the possibility that abortion IS murder (I've never seen a sound pro-choice argument for it) And this is a common position held by RP'ers, leftists and moderates alike. JOKED.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 08:42 PM
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I see other relationship dynamics working just as well in equal or greater numbers. I hate to call people liars but...lets just say I'm skeptical. I'm no shut in, got plenty of friends and I've seen these relationships a thousand times, they never last long
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 08:39 PM
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You sound afraid af. JOKED
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 08:38 PM
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I understand what it is. I was a council communist/ancom for a little minute. Not just on the web but actually participated in propaganda and some other things I can't even mention. I found that in those days I wanted to view my own relationship with my now wife in similar "egalitarian" terms. After being betrayed by other so called leftists for so long I gave up on leftism,. Its like all this community/class/ally talk and yet not one of those people could be a real friend. You would setup Food …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 08:36 PM
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Teams work best in hierarchies. Its why militaries haven't gone egalitarian
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 08:30 PM
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Every time I see these "egalitarian" relationships the guy is always beta and the girl is secretly in charge
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 08:28 PM
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Its because women are naturally submissive and if they aren't submitting to their man they're submitting to someone else but branding it as an individual choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 08:21 PM
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So your own parents, you yourself, several friends. All work with this setup. Yet you find the idea of a natural order to be baseless? joked. Ok look, if anybody here can say they have parents, sisters and several friends all into happy S&M feminist cuckolding relationships as well as themselves then we can start to say BP/Feminist land is on par with traditional Male/Female polarity. Until then, people are going to perceive a natural order.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 08:14 PM
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You're also a socialist/leftist too right? This view you have goes hand in hand with your relationship imo
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 08:10 PM
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Because if you actually saw how this works in practice it still looks "sexist and misogynistic" to feminists/BP. Gender roles will blossom out of this yin/yang because lets face it, the sexes are specialized
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 08:09 PM
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Wrong and right seems to be tied to what outcome we desire. Bargaining with the future the way Jordan Peterson puts it. For some people like say Lenin, far leftism was right no doubt about it. And for venture capitalists and businesses like Google hard capitalism is right. Those who are unconscious of their own principles will be swept up into a side that only uses them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 08:03 PM
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Then you're only a centrist in context of where the current political climate is. Seems like you have principles though, which means theres a moral axiom somewhere in there and that logic continues on into the political. Some people are pathological centrists because its the best way to avoid conflict
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 08:00 PM
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Thats fine because its an eternally good idea. Radical freedom means being directionless, being committed to nothing and no one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 07:53 PM
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I agree with you friend. Did I lead you to believe otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 07:52 PM
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Which is why I say true enough. The beliefs are operational
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 07:51 PM
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What happened to your optic nerves breh
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 07:50 PM
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Slavery isn't always wrong. Slaves shall serve. If you lack the will to rebel you haven't prioritized freedom. Likewise freedom can also be a curse, particularly what Sarte called "radical freedom".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 07:47 PM
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Who tried to be a badass shit talker first? joked out
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 07:46 PM
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oooohoooo thats how its post to be, ya girl on st.claude sippin on dat daiquiri yakayakayaka
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 11:28 PM
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Beef stew, its beef stew
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 11:26 PM
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If I'm honest, this might be the most open minded sub and best place to debate just about anything. I know /r/anarchism is a joke anyway, but compared to our mods they're straight totalitarians
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 11:21 PM
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I guess for me moral relativism is "beta" morality because it means you don't have to stand for anything. I doubt this position is so popular because its so intellectually compelling, rather most people seem to have a pathological fear of judging others purely because they don't want to be judged. Probably because they truly have no idea why they believe what they do just that its right, and everyone else is right somehow too. Its so excruciatingly diplomatic. Except when its not, except when it…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 11:16 PM
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The problem with it is that you just wind up adopting the "dollar general consensus" phantom morality. You will still judge. Like for instance I once had a philosophy debate with a bunch of young adults trying to assert moral relativism. I said something hyperbolic like "I agree with moral relativism, in my view women who abort should be publically executed". Everyone got silent with stink faces. They judged me. But on what basis? If morality is relative and its whole appeal is "You don't judge …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 11:09 PM
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Leonardo da Vincci had double hemispheric connectivity, he was like a Tesla or Newton; an alchemist. Most rank and file scientists these days are of the cargo cult variety who never attempt to merge science and romance/meaning. Thats where the majority of BP'ers are pulling things out their asses from too ime. RP is like bro science. Less formalized pure experiential empiricism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 11:02 PM
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I'm not saying that applying RP won't get you what you want. Do it apply it. I'm saying PPD debates are certainly not getting you jack shit but the dopamine high. I'm projecting here of course but I'm an honest projector at least
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 10:48 PM
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I agree with that meme though. I hate moral relativism and fake ass nihilists/cynics as much as the next alt-rightard My flair says restore the kyriarchy for a reason. I'm just suggesting that the lab coats and sterile language be damned, its exactly what has caused all of the dispassion in this world imo
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 10:40 PM
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I don't do poetry I rather do music. Maybe I'll write a rondo about hypergamy, no lyrics so if its beautiful enough even the feminists will give an ovation. joked out
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 10:34 PM
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Yeah RP has been my experience too. I'm just saying I might rather start to take the hurt and let downs as well as the eureka moments discovered here and channel it into creativity rather than endless debate
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 10:11 PM
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Yeah don't perform poetry to get laid. Thats not really the point. By simply stating your frustrations here no matter if they're true all you will get is hostility and debate. If you conjure these thoughts into a different vessel like music it will be judged on its beauty, rather than simple words on a screen which can be wrong (in a scientific or social etiquette sense) and function more like mind viruses. Then again others have brought up the "dopamine hit" this place gives us. Thats definitel…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 10:08 PM
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Yeah thats called courage and resolve. Which I guess I can't blame millennials for finding such a thing "sad". Considering how truly sad and weak this generation is
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 10:04 PM
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My wife says the same you win
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 09:56 PM
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Thats what happens when a bunch of alphas fraternalize. Military chain of command perfectly illustrates that, or do you think people just start out as SEALs?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 09:47 PM
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Well I'm actually an ex-con and a past anarchist squatter and theistic satanist. I'm into Christianity now for philosophical reasons and my wife doesn't fly anywhere without me. You sound a little like the smug guy who I'd crush his windpipe with one hand if you said any of that disrespectful horse shit to me irl
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 09:40 PM
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It won't collapse to pre industry there will just be a political paradigm shift that will result in some turmoil and the collapse of neo-liberalism
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 09:35 PM
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That antifa girl that got punched was a hairy fisting queen for instance. Its got a bad rep now for me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 09:30 PM
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Radical freedom is a prison all the same. I'm no longer a lost soul. For me, your way would be a step backwards
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 03:07 AM
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Any logical simulation of a communism outcome is a nightmare. I think in a lot of ways a true "progressive" should get on board with ditching 20th century ideologies all together.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 03:06 AM
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I see neoliberalism as a precursor to international communism. Not in the idealistic sense but in the globalist dystopian sense where some are more equal than others. To me all you are describing is a continuum. The way out of this isn't to double down on leftism, its to restore meaning and purpose. Fascism is one way to do it, but its far from the only way and I think even fascism is an outdated time locked concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 01:20 AM
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We are in agreement but I don't believe it was democracy that won per se. If it had been a battle between two dictators it'd still be a battle between a shit sandwich and a guy who says all the right things. There was only one outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 01:17 AM
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Because in brutal times men need loyalty and honor + strength. Psychopaths are much better at manuevering in peace times with silver tongues and feigned diplomacy. They lack the courage and will to compete in a pure kratocracy. Machiavelli even tells us so
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 01:03 AM
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Yeah, thats what "egalitarian" illusions do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 01:01 AM
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There's a catholic priest who is martyr'd in the church because he was captured and tortured by CNT-FAI ancoms for refusing to turn over his Rosary. They captured raped and brought his daughter to convince him to stop praying the rosary and finally killed him in front of her. I was an anarchist years ago, more of the post-left kind but back then I shrugged at anarchist terror like it was nothing. Point is, theres nothing about communism inherently less brutal or immoral than Patriarchy, Capitali…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 12:59 AM
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Honestly, if "intellectuals" just meant navel gazing academic hair brained beta males then Pol Pot is kind of my hero. The Bill Nyes of the world should be culled and since he's a eugenicist he can volunteer and make everyone happy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 12:54 AM
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Ehh, the fisting part is the only weird one. I associate that with little dick man fantasies Swap out fisting with colored soy milk vomiting
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 12:51 AM
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He proves the point. He's a populist and a quasi-dictator
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 12:42 AM
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The left has no will and no balls. They've disarmed themselves of virtue and literal firearms.If they fight they fight to maintain a status quo if anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 12:40 AM
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No it was good. It was in response to the misguided feminist that believes sociopaths somehow strive in a kratocracy. Actually they thrive in "agreeable" and "peaceful" societies
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 12:39 AM
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No, patriarchy/kratocracy send the deserving to the top. Our current world sends the sociopaths to the top, silver tongues and lies replace strength and honor
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 12:37 AM
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Well, to be fair. War does give meaning and true comraderie which many people are searching for unconsciously. The current crisis of the west is a crisis of meaning not necessarily refugees. The only reason the desert dwellers are doing so well is precisely because they fight for meaning, we fight for what McDonalds?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 12:36 AM
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Nah. I believe our fucked up post modern gender roles already have the pea on an upturned bowl. Deniers have their heads in the sand. I'm giving things 4 years tops. But I already see a culture shift happening, the return of a quasi-patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 12:32 AM
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You can't find them all. Whats done is done
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 12:28 AM
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This is ultimately why I consider you an ally. I'll be right there with you fighting socialists/communist drones, even if afterwards we just go back at eachothers throats Worse than a world of females dominating males, worse than a world of males dominating females, is a world of grey and blah meaninglessness and forced "equality"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 12:25 AM
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Rape and religious persecution was not bad? Thing is, many people are compelled to be religious and to seek meaning outside of "science" and materialism. You would need to exterminate those people to make everyone ancom. Problem is, those people tend to fight the hardest
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 12:23 AM
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Typically democracies are just as dictating as a dictator or autocrat. The real power of a democracy is the illusion of people power. Even if in effect the people have no power, they still feel entitled to it. And thats powerful in of itself
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 12:19 AM
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Socialism is becoming very uncool. Civic Nationalism and corporatism are on the rise now. I think your predictions are wishful thinking. Socialism requires a unified populace (like the EU or USSR) against a common enemy to even seem feasible. Right now ideologies and moralities are bifurcating more rapidly than ever, socialism is history
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 12:14 AM
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Well I agree that treating the refugee crisis as a silly conspiracy is silly. Its always silly when people stick their head in the sand and claim reality is a conspiracy. On the rest, I don't share your "optimism". And I sense much fear and projection in your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 12:12 AM
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I don't believe it to be merely subjective. I think it can be reasoned with logic and shown to be true. I think I have shown that, you don't have to accept it. But for me I remain unconvinced that loyalty is anything other than good virtue. And I reckon most people if asked on the spot will tell you the same. You might be the only person I've ever seen say that loyalty can be anything but good, although I doubt you act in this way in your life you probably value it like I do. I believe you're be…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 12:02 AM
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It is how I see it. I see it as an internal concept. We exist, existence literally means to be outside of, outside of what? Outside of the ideal/mind. Through the logos and our transcendent idealism is how we determine what is right and what is wrong. If you revere a concept truly you will embody it(give it a body). People looking to the outside universe for an objective morality are doing it backwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 11:57 PM
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Tell that to the Soviets and the mass reporting. Yes, that is the effect of Marxism. Its the reason I caution against atheists that blame God and religion for all of our woes, scoffing at the idea of cultural Marxism as if its some sort of baseless conspiracy theory. Ultimately what makes people obedient to the state is a lack of something substantial to identify with, something that reciprocates love and sacrifice, most of which would be family, community and moral tradition/religion. They woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 11:52 PM
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One paradox is that one has to be "self-righteous" in order to be right. This often looks like "dogmaticism". But think about its opposite "self-wrongness" whats the value in that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 11:46 PM
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That sounds like exactly what a person who romanticizes bygone eras would say. By definition something that is eternal is not stuck in the past. You make no sense. Why should valuing eternal transcendent ideas be something relegated to the past? People who don't value those things right now are fools who give the present era a bad rep imo. Do you really want to bring back racial and a gender hierarchy? Can't tell if your flair is a joke. Its a term made up by feminists so while I don't agree wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 11:43 PM
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No, their imaginations can bifurcate endlessly from the starting axiom; which should be a transcendent ideal/virtue imo, but it doesn't have to be of course
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 09:21 PM
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Or a communal survival mechanic, bloated to become selflessness indoctrined by the state. Actually the state seeks to destroy family loyalty and traditions for this very reason. The more astray a being is the more likely it will become dependent on the state and its ideologies. No one is ever truly loyal to the "state" as it is though because compared to family and upbringing its an abstract idea with no relation. then the need for it would be gone as soon as backstabbing a fellow human and sust…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 09:17 PM
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I don't think feminism enslaves alphas as you put it. Earlier I said that the female imperative is to domesticate the male ego, if thats what you're talking about its a descriptive observation and nothing more
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 09:10 PM
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The point is not to follow every footstep but proceed from first axioms, that is the point of traditions and morals. Operational tools of logic set to achieve purposeful outcomes which take more than a single generation
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 09:08 PM
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I'm championing grandiosity for everyone including myself fail as we may. Nothing great can come from capping the heights of your accomplishments and imaginations. Let the worthy prevail and unworthy to be conquered. Slaves shall serve and plug their ears
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 09:03 PM
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Transcendent companionship, the merging egos of two or more conscious beings to the point that the individual selves can yield to a larger shared goal/outcome/ideal Often the virtue that compels a selfish being to sacrifice for the special group (jump on the hand grenade) The catalyst for performing the most selfless of acts. The formation of individual ego cum super ego Loyalty is so valuable that even Satan and God both would wish it for their servants
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 08:58 PM
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I rolled with the edgiest crowds and I saw it happen over and over again without fail they became the thing they hated most and the rebellion was impotent
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 08:52 PM
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The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I wouldn't be afraid of exposing my children to rival concepts at all, their core referential experience during their formative years will be closest to home. Thats why teenagers rebel against daddy and mommy and wind up becoming them in the end every single time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 08:51 PM
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Give it a few thousand years of being harmful, and it will be called a weakness How can it be "harmful" by what metric could you judge loyalty as being harmful? Loyalty as a good thing is encoded in the language we use, same as murder is bad and its encoded into the very language we use, we call good kinds of murder ,killing Also theres no proof for your assertion since from the start till today loyalty is still good and not weak
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 08:44 PM
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Its not about manipulation, you needn't manipulate anyone. If they are in your vicinity/environment they will transfer concepts "memetically" non-relations won't have the same base/core to start from
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 08:42 PM
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Yes. I mostly agree, except for the financially stable part. I know people who have only ever gotten back on track because of having a child. Thats mostly a baseless BP fear because elitist liberals are deathly afraid of poverty or any kind of trial/challenge
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 08:40 PM
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Of course, romance is very important the essence of which is Meaning. I was responding to the idea of romanticizing the past. I romanticize but not the past. Something eternal is past,present and future. For instance the virtue of loyalty, its eternal, it will never be devalued based on its expression in a particular locus of time There are things about medieval times and ancient times that I want to bring back, not living in castles or something simply aesthetic as such but eternal values that …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 08:37 PM
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Its ideal to have both. Have plenty of children
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 08:34 PM
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How so
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 08:33 PM
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Sorry I meant to say citizen, don't be a citizen A citizen is someone who is afforded rights and privileges by their state/nation People who made lasting impressions in the world weren't merely passive players playing someone elses game. They shaped the game in their image as much as possible
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 08:31 PM
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Its inherently unstable. We're past due for a great war, common but irreconcilable moralities are polarizing and becoming more apparent. Liberalism, moral relativism, lack of meaning and general nihilism is pushing people to take more radical approaches to life
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 08:24 PM
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Its all good and I'm clear now. I've heard of couples that tried for two years before it happened so theres always hope
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 08:22 PM
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Its the opposite of nihilism my man. Its about creating meaning above work/play/sex All the greatest minds were on this level don't be a civilian unless you want to then go ahead
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 08:21 PM
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I believe there is a deep biological component to this so that even BP males could feel it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 08:20 PM
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If there is a true scale of "alphaness", it's the power to define concepts. Now we agree. And since the world is as it is And its constantly in flux. Its due to collapse soon enough
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 08:19 PM
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To continue any great works or visions for society that I may have. Some people are not content to just be passive beings in a world thought up by others
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 08:18 PM
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Our standard of living is the result of the idealization of mostly a few grand visionaries in the grand scheme of things. To get from the African Planes to here right now took no little amount of war and domination/submission and its still continuing to this day (global politics). That is what war is about, not resources so much as competing visions on how to organize civilizations
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 08:16 PM
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Nah, I think it will work on any very masculine man not just tradcon. This RP'er is proof, he's no TradCon he wants to spin plates but it still got to him
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 08:13 PM
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Most RP are against romanticizing ideas of a bygone era myself included. I don't romanticize the past so much as I try to promote eternal virtues, things not bound by linear timelines.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 08:12 PM
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Power and conquest only last you until the end of your own life. So do material things but it doesn't mean you don't still desire them. If your ultimate ambition is to create a legacy that carries on your projects and influencing the world it's not a "comfortable delusion" its rather the opposite. Its not as if you can't live long enough to see your children continuing your works either, you can live to be a grandfather and great grandfather. You can know if your legacy will continue well before…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 08:08 PM
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Men controlling women is what has led to our modern liberal society. See matriarchal African tribes for an idea of how far women progress things when given power
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 08:05 PM
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Best wishes. I'm starting to think its not going to happen for me (had testicular cancer a few years ago) If anyone had a lot of incentive for this theory I'm putting forth to be wrong, it'd be me since it looks like I can't have any children. I still think its true, the purest essence of being a man is to be a father
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 08:00 PM
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Ehh, it works for the whole world imo. The nature of man is to dominate or submit, you can pretend to be neutral but all it really does is lower your defense. There is no being neutral on a moving train The only true way out is to devote yourself to a transcendent ideal (God) But if you're going to play the human game of civilization you might as well win at it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 07:57 PM
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The effectiveness of insults vary from person to person based on their mindset. BP'ers are still calling me a creepy misogynist as if I don't embrace it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 07:53 PM
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So you have children?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 07:49 PM
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Feminists are pretty good at identifying what is good about masculinity and demonizing it. Yes is no, up is down
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 07:46 PM
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Its only empty to a beta male though. A true alpha male desires power and conquest not mere sex for the sake of it. You'd need an alpha mindset to understand I guess. The newest Guardians of the Galaxy movie pretty much demonizes this exact same concept on the grounds that the "celestial God" Ego is a pure manifestation of "toxic masculinity" trying to spread its essence throughout the universe
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 07:41 PM
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Yeah thats on purpose (the extrapolating "too far" part) It is getting political but I don't tend to think of things in a vacuum, I agree essentially with the feminists that the personal is political. I'm just on the other side of being in support of the kyriarchy/patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 07:39 PM
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Yes I'm not saying they didn't support their children(not the same as stay at home dad). The general point here is that you're less of an alpha man if you're childless. This doesn't stick well on young guys for the obvious reasons but once you get older you're definitely looked down on for being childless whether man or woman
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 07:38 PM
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It would cause mass uprising and war. Which would absolutely return dynamics to their natural state
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 06:31 PM
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I'm not talking about you in particular but women who engage in this. Women are designed to domesticate the male ego, male ego feels enslaved whenever the female imperative takes hold
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 06:29 PM
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Not here. Bloops here are too oblivious and are still using SJW shaming tactics to no avail. This is from a TRP thread where an RP'er talked about an insult from a BP'er that got to him. Where they talked to this person I do not know but I doubt it was here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 06:27 PM
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I think they're about equal. ISIS warlords aren't rapey, they're post modern af and get instagram thots like mad. Rape is for the ISIS underlings
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 06:25 PM
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Knowing that your progeny will continue to inflict your vision upon the world goes nicely with the kiss of death. This is beyond the mere Alpha/Beta category of wolves and unto the realm of humanity which is already at the top of the food chain. Once you're born a human the only competition left amongst living beings are other humans and human society at large.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 06:24 PM
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Ego, domination and submission of the lesser. An ideal apex Alpha would stop seeing individuals as competition and start to view society as his competition. If you want the best shot at influencing society with your vision for the world you should groom a dynasty of your bloodline because they will best continue your works and visions. A great vision takes more than one generation to accomplish
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 06:19 PM
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Even if its just male ego, even if male ego is naturally irrational (i think not imo) its still enslavement when you repress it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 06:14 PM
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Because your child can possibly outshine you and is still an extension of you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 06:13 PM
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Yes it matters. You groom your bloodline to be the next gen of rulers and great men. The further the average man is from this ideal the less alpha he is. That means a childless alpha is objectively 1 point lower on the pyramid than an Alpha with one child
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 06:11 PM
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What do I think about the childless alpha? Most men want to procreate, so I think it's a fairly rare phenomenon. For a reason. Its a loser phenomenon
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 06:10 PM
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Not from an evolutionary or even archetypal/metalphysical stand point. A Gengis Khan is a pure alpha that no one in modern society can compare to, but the further you are from spreading your genes and blood line the further you are from the pinnacle archetype
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 06:08 PM
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No you're not supposed to do anything. Its an RP'er sharing what he thinks is a BP insult that has actually stung him for once. Its getting at something that irks him (true alphas have dynasties) The idea is that if BP'ers want to hit RP'ers where it hurts they should stop using insults that bounce right off (muh soggy knee) and consider ones that aactually buck their own paradigm
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 06:05 PM
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In todays age yes. In the more brutal and hyper alpha days (where we derive our modern archetypes) kings and lords were the Alphas and they had dynasties
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 06:03 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 06:02 PM
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Its not meant for you because you aren't internalizing RP you're purple metrosexual druggie or something like that. Their point is that childless alphas have nothing on dynasty alphas. A childless alpha is an evolutionary loser
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 06:01 PM
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Modern Khans are world leaders obviously. They're erecting skyscrapers, running harems (in the ME) and dropping bombs on enemies. duh
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 05:59 PM
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Give me a break
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 03:20 PM
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Girls should take notes. I don't even watch anime but this is pretty well into serving the male imperative
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 10:03 PM
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This is baseless and sounds more like autism. As much as the left might hate it autism is not specific to the right or redpill at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 10:00 PM
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muh female tears
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 09:58 PM
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Yeah if you want to call it that but it would lack nuance. Men are by far the worst of all misandrists for sure, y'know war and all that. But we're also highly fraternal and a win for masculinity is a win for males as a group in general
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 09:49 PM
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Well the commies of your country destroyed your country without IdPol so thats irrelevant. In the US they're all trying the IdPol angle, even the IWW which was originally a workerist organization above all, is now pushing around working class Trumpers with shouts of bigotry, transphobia ect..
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 09:46 PM
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What is the height of their technological advance? Not much I'd assume
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 09:44 PM
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They also had to build temp shelters and do many other things that required superior physical strength. I don't really care how "egalitarian" our society gets as long as natural gender roles stay intact. So your hunter gatherer egalitarians would be fine by me
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 09:20 PM
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Sounds pornographic. I'll pass anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 09:18 PM
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No I'm saying that the reason courts are biased towards women is because of Patriarchy and gender roles. Its based on what makes sense. Dads crying over child custody are betas. If you're a good dad you will support your kids financially no matter how much of a bitch your ex is, you let the woman raise them early and when they're teens and seek you out, there and after is when being a dad is most important. Unless the woman is a torturer or extreme narcissist I wouldn't fight for half or full cu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 08:13 PM
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The civil war was not about slavery. Russia is a force of good in the world right now. You'd have to have an ideological transplant to actually see how what DJT is doing is extremely smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 08:11 PM
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It wasn't really a high intensity war though that should have called for that nonsense. The CNT fought a handful of battles and after the UTG/Stalin betrayed them they were more like under ground resistance fighters. They would have done better if they weren't bitter pseudo-Marxists who irrationally hated the religious
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 08:08 PM
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I agree for the most part but I do have a handful of omega and beta male friends that I'm close to. Simply because one is a food scientist (the beta guy) and the Omega is a good death metal guitarist and lets me borrow his gear if I ever need it. They have redeeming and interesting qualities so I don't mind them. I hate useless emo sad sacks for the most part though and nu-males/metro sexuals
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 08:03 PM
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I don't agree with. I'm a naturally masculine sort of guy, I gain muscle fast, I'm hyper-straight and my job is very physical so my test levels are usually well balanced. I feel bad for ugly women more than anything else I feel lots of sympathy for them. I even have impulses to help them out when I see them struggling with physical stuff. The types of females that I'm viscerally disgusted by are sluts (even if they're attractive) and masculine women. When I see a big dyke screaming at a politica…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 07:59 PM
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As a man I disagree. Its a patriarchal concept and overall pro male. Its anti nu-male and stay at home dad BS. Also anti-spinster in some ways
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 07:50 PM
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Man crying over a dead family member? Strong and honorable, correct expression of sadness, very powerful when witnessed. At my aunts funeral this year everyone was holding back tears as best they could but when my uncle cried I lost it and after I cried everyone else started crying. We're both highly masculine brained working class men Man crying over depression? Weak Man crying over failure? Weak Man heart broken over a divorce? Somewhat weak but very understandable. I wouldn't hold it against …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 07:41 PM
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They murdered priests and raped nuns/convent women for simply being religious. Fuck the red fascist of Catalonia
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 07:37 PM
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Before even the suffragettes for me. I believe the Greek and Chinese empires around 300BC seemed pretty nice from what we know about them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 07:36 PM
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The trade off is we get to live a lot longer and shit in air-conditioned bathrooms. Okinawains have maintained a life span into the 80s from low tech unto today. The tech seemed to have no effect overall on those people. I don't buy that modern tech is the golden key to longevity and certainly not quality. Sticking yourself with blood pressure and insulin injectors just to stay alive is garbage. Then theres depression, oh god the depression
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 07:32 PM
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How are they egalitarian in the modern sense though. Any hunter gatherer society is going to have to rely on male strength and female nurture to survive. Aka, strict gender roles. In todays attitude that would be considered horribly unequal
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 07:29 PM
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Following what? All I see here is emotion pure emotion. Dave Ruben and Jordan Peterson both seem to agree that Trump is incredibly smart and they put forth a good argument as to why his detractors aren't thinking clearly when they call him stupid. They assume to put his crystalized IQ at around 140 Even if Trump tanked the US I'd just believe it was on purpose because one thing that guy is not, is dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 07:25 PM
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They're crypto communists. SDS and the New Left has seeded a legacy of post-Marxism here in the US. Greeks aint got a clue
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 03:31 PM
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In what way? I'm working class US citizen and Obama was a horror show for the working class. I don't even think its possible for Trump to do worse
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 03:30 PM
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Forreal. and we don't even have groups like UKIP or BDL. That shit is unAmerican, it aint apple pie breh
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 03:28 PM
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I'm not seeing any evidence that Trump is going to do worse than Obama. The only legit complaints are moralist ones like him striping Planned Parenthood. Which I support anyway so its no complaint from me
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 03:26 PM
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Nah, he'd admire all of these useful idiots
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 03:24 PM
1

muh class comes first bro manarchist /r/anarchism /r/socialism look at what this Greek capitalist reactionary is saying lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 03:21 PM
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Then why don't they team up with the rightwing blue collars to squash it? I'll tell you why, because actual Marxists believe Trump voters are actual Nazi's
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 03:19 PM
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guns?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 03:18 PM
1

This is true. Sometimes places like Sweden can get pretty crypto-fascist like. Now that they are more "diverse" they might just slide left forever now. Until they become full Islamic
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 03:18 PM
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You're wrong. I was an ancom/council communist for a long time. While in secret these groups will express slight disdain for "idpol" in the open they will tear down any comrade for being a transphobe at the slightest bit of scientific realism or talk of "biotrufs" Get your head out of the books and go visit these people some time. Its not as coherent as you believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 03:11 PM
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Fascism is branded right because it is romantic, and Marxism set itself up to be "scientific materialist" so therefore they reject romanticism and ultimately meaning. This is why now modern progressives influenced by the post-Marxists of 68 see morality as an ever evolving forward moving telos. (2017 is objectively more ethical than 2016 because everything moves forward except "reactionaries") But Fascist writers have often pointed out that Marxism is not scientific at all and the "revolution" i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 03:06 PM
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Yes. I'm a monarchist/chivalrist, so center right for me would be like Nietzsche or Bismark. SJWs are postmodernists/absurdists US democrats are crypto communists
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 02:58 PM
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Don't tell em though, their pussies will get triggered :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 02:56 PM
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Online, irl most people are pussies
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 02:54 PM
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sunshine99ss analysis
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 09:42 PM
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There's nothing a woman can do and nothing she can gain by understanding men in order to make them commit. Except to stay fit and feminine. The only way men commit is when they learn to be moral, men are the moralizers so men are the only ones who know how to make men commit
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 09:42 PM
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I actually agree with it and I was once a crust/squatter lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 09:19 PM
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Yall are navel gazing and calling NatSoc and Stalinists fascists. Just doing badhistory
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 09:16 PM
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but you doink the ones who are
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 09:09 PM
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facts
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 09:07 PM
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Duh. Thats all women anyway so nothing new
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 08:54 PM
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Actually society will collapse soon enough because of the bluepill nonsense. The neo-tradcon pushback is already flaring up but they won't be able to save civilization I don't believe
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 08:47 PM
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He's talking about the cultural Marxism deal. BP'ers think its a conspiracy theory with no evidence but Jordan Peterson is making it popular again
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 08:39 PM
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"bigotry" is way too subjective though. I see more people being bigots towards Christians than any other group I can think of, just openly and blatant hate. I noticed this even when I was atheist and its part of what made me start wondering about PC culture in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 08:14 PM
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It still makes sense to me. If the only way you can get it is to pay its ignoble and humiliating
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 08:10 PM
1

Which is why the Earth is Flat
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 08:08 PM
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Mussolini was the fascist. You guys are talking nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 08:03 PM
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ill give you that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 07:58 PM
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Because they're all cultural Christians.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 03:18 AM
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Yeah its even a little too politically incorrect for redpill dudes too. The more extreme ones and tradcon ones know its true though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 06:05 PM
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Depends on who and how you wear them. I mean, they're just shoes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 06:04 PM
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And I'm guessing you haven't had the D since your uncle
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 05:09 PM
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Not as much anymore. I used to buy lots of expensive collab sneakers and Bball shoes, super fashionable shirts and Kanye type shit. Now I have a sort of standard look that better fits my working blue collar class lifestyle. Some black jeans, a really nice brown leather belt and watch, Dr. Martens and a linen collard shirt with the pocket to hold my clove cigarettes. I have a few variations of that style and some fitness athletic wear. If you're poor people can smell it on you even if you got leg…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 04:51 PM
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I'm JOKED. I'm married to a low N count sweetie 2 years my younger already, I'm not in for sheit but a happy life. You on the otherhand. Have fun approaching men like a total defect of nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 04:45 PM
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Young females do know better than indoctrinated feminist spinsters though. I've seen 20yo pair off with 40yo dudes and be happy af. A life of luxury with little effort, tons of free time to work, study and live stress free. The BluePill/Feminist focus is to do the reverse, where old spinsters groom young alpha males into their perfect betafied bulls
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 04:41 PM
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social status maybe. But then again not really, its my own doing because I chose to be part of dropout/psychedelic culture in my early 20s You reap what you sew
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 04:36 PM
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physical attractiveness is not the essence of being alpha. its easy for men to look good up until his 50s
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 04:34 PM
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Not randos. Randos are low quality men who you barely notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 04:33 PM
1

Well, yes you're correct
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 04:32 PM
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If it helps that means you have to. High value alphas will never marry a woman who approaches
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 04:31 PM
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That is the wall. A girls bread and butter is her ability to do nothing and get approached by high quality mates
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 04:27 PM
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No 16-20 is the time when she can find the highest quality LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 04:25 PM
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When you have to start approaching guys you're fucked lol. And you're only late 20s? Yeah enjoy while it lasts
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 04:18 PM
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atheism is ripe for the PC indoctrination. If you go to /r/atheism and rail against BLM they ban you, because apparently anything that makes sense is a plot by the religious right to exterminate gays and blacks
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 04:12 PM
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I agree with that but I'm not talking about just cat calling i've seen people say video game characters are being objectified, men just talking amongst men in youtube videos are objectifying etc..
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 04:06 PM
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well yeah rationalization is a purely human process of course nature can look irrational to us. Its just nature though
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 04:05 PM
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Well thats good
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 04:01 PM
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Its flatter than that because most people are poor and even women have a lot of competition from other women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 01:33 AM
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And who created those laws? Women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 01:31 AM
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Thats a mighty high "idiot quotient"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 01:31 AM
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Not really. We make laws to serve a moral imperative called justice. People would still act badly but we desire a sense of justice
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 01:28 AM
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All societies allow murder in some capacity. Through conquest, capitol punishment or even just tribal dudes in the rain forest having a normal tuesday
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 01:27 AM
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I'm the dualist/theist here. If you're a materialist then all human laws are also natural laws
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 01:23 AM
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Strong social bonds are what make people help eachother after disasters and laws don't create social bonds. I was there for Katrina. Multiculturalism is the culprit for the crimes. My black family members and black neighbors, we all defended eachother. But if you were a stranger you were just a "white bitch" to be looted
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 01:20 AM
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Savage
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 01:18 AM
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Chivalry
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 01:17 AM
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There's plenty of bonk laws made for dumb reasons. Like magazine capacity on rifles because vets commit suicide with guns at high rates
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 01:16 AM
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I would assume he just made an impression on her and once they split up she actively looked for a hyper tall dude to fulfill the fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 01:14 AM
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I don't believe men marry up to women with higher education. I think men are overall a bit smarter and realize its an extended daycare now. Women love modern university because as grown children they love day care and feeling "empowered".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 01:12 AM
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Dead on. Can anyone disagree? The more valuable the male (across all criteria) the younger the mate he seeks. Its why some pay millions for 18yo 3rd world virgin brides. Women would never do that, lol just imagine that scenario though
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 01:08 AM
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Stacy's and Chads can be genetically varied though..
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 01:03 AM
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So the large majority of guys at bars who aren't trying to make friends first are objectifying women. Sounds like sex negativity. Friendship and sex are different categories, to impose that standard on sex is sex limiting. And hey what if its my kink? You kink shaming me now breh?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 01:00 AM
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I don't think so though. I believe Charisma is a learned skill and also an intellectual exercise.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 12:58 AM
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Not true really. I know some interesting dudes with not much charisma
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 12:13 AM
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Gay ass comment. But still true. So I guess the truth is edgy and gay
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 12:12 AM
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Its not a bad thing if its your best friends kid and he died in combat with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 12:09 AM
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They are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 12:07 AM
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Also why women can't comprehend true romance and instead reduce romance to remembering your first date together
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 12:00 AM
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You've just figured it out bravo
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 11:58 PM
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It almost sounds like chivalry. I'm pro neo-chivalry but I thought feminists were all sex positive these days
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 11:57 PM
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This sounds terribly sex negative
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 11:54 PM
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Why assume she even likes to cuddle? Sounds intrusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 11:52 PM
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Magenta (mostly red except the a-moralist component) My parents are still together and so are my wifes rents.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 11:38 PM
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ideologies are immune to falsifiable hypothesis. when talking to ideologues the only way you can win is to expose them as hypocrites by their own rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 11:36 PM
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Education. You mean Marxist education. You know not all education is good right? It literally means someone taught you something, it doesn't mean it was something that made sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 11:35 PM
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I'm Italian heritage and we weren't considered white. Not only that, the white leftist progressive hero Margret Sanger thought we breed too much and wanted to exterminate us, blacks too Oh, thats history get over it they say
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 11:30 PM
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Lmfao. Not open to the discussion. As if we haven't had that damn discussion beaten into us throughout childhood. Every millennial is steeped in knowledge of cultural Marxism by now. We read Marx more in school than we read classics like Lovecraft
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 11:22 PM
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So..Blues are hoodwinked. What am I saying, I know thats true because I was blue once too
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 11:04 PM
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This is why when liberal feminists say we're overracting when we say they're just cultural Marxists. We're right They don't seem to understand how this all connects to Marxism
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 11:01 PM
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When you know someone is human it means you've considered their humanity. You didn't confuse them for a rock, or watermelon
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 10:57 PM
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Moreover, we do not objectify sexual beings, rather when it comes to fleshlights we sexualize objects. Feminists are essentially demons, so everything is inverted in their mind
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 10:56 PM
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So men can't vocalize their attraction to a stranger? Because when you see a stranger you don't see their personality
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 10:51 PM
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Who does it the other way around? I don't think I've ever met a person who saw a sexy a woman and said "thats a fine ass object right therr" Pretty sure all guys know women are humans
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 10:49 PM
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When a guy sees a strange woman and has sexual desire (in accordance with biology) what is that? I just call it nature
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 10:47 PM
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I'm JOKED
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 10:42 PM
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The word is still unfit. Its a lot like blacklivesmatter or feminism in that the definition doesn't quite go with the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 10:40 PM
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I'm a Christian "alt-righter" these days but when I was an Atheist leftwinger I still saw a Sun and a Moon in the sky, just as I do now. Oddly enough I didn't see hypergamy as a leftwinger, I saw special snowflakes. So maybe you have a decent point in a round about way
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 10:36 PM
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Alcohol. Only thing that makes em touchy. Or meth
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 10:34 PM
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Also the weakest in terms of caffeine. Espresso is all that matters in the end
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 10:31 PM
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Except I don't lose anything because I'm seeing reality for what it is. You win the argument, maybe, thats being charitable on my part. You lose brain cells
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 10:29 PM
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Sounds like a just world fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 10:21 PM
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Dude, hypergamy is real af stop being obtuse I love how the Ifuckinglowvscience crowd will pull one off studies out their asses all damn day long and then when something seems un-PC its back to "I'm gonna need like 1000 more studies to believe this shit".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 10:20 PM
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It is but my main inspiration from Christ is the sermon on the mount. Also Christians aren't what kept slavery going statism/empires is what kept it going, it served those in power (who yes aligned themselves with Christianity through lip service) Nearly every country in the world (especially in the Middle East and Asia) was dealing in slavery up until the Christian project to abolish slavery and it was a long work in progress. It sure worked better than the pointless slave rebellions Just like …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 09:55 PM
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How.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 09:28 PM
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So one quote from Mosaic law and another from some ancient prehistoric source (Exodus) I'm not a jew so I can't help you there
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 09:27 PM
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Yes of course he told them to submit. What he didn't do was tell men to enslave others. We're all slaves in one way or another he was preaching against pointless rebellion which is consistent with his message of peace and love even unto your aggressor, because killing your master is not what will get you into heaven (imo this is an allegory for a state of mind that is happiness) Christian men freed the slaves because of their Christianity absolutely. Just imagine if the world had been atheistic …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 04:21 AM
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That guy is a worm because he wants to deny things instead of man up. Its not TRP thats the problem its his character
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 09:43 PM
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She's an accountant and business major
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 09:42 PM
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Well of course they don't. Men get in shape in order to contest and defend against other men too. But in todays society workout aesthetics are mostly about sexulity
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 09:41 PM
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Slavery is a state issue and Christianity is not a state based religion. Christian men freed the slaves lol. All of those things have a basis in Christianity too look it up. Morals that are not rooted in religion don't come about. Atheism has always been around as a minority and they've always borrowed their moral templates from the religious cultures they were born into. The best atheists can do is moral relativism
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 09:40 PM
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No Christianity no feminism no liberalism no woman vote. You're completely idealizing female life under Rome with fantasies and mythologizes. Women who weren't elite or citizens were slaves treated much worse than male slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 09:36 PM
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Objects aren't sexual
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 07:59 PM
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Objects aren't sexual
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 07:59 PM
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That is exactly what we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 07:57 PM
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Men aren't doing the blaming. Men know they're sexualizing strangers and they own it because its just part of being sexual
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 07:56 PM
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Huh? Thats literally how my niece goes everywhere, its pretty common if the girl is ultra fem
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 07:54 PM
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Then you're objectifying yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 07:52 PM
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Its the same for the women who do the makeup and high heels everwhere schtick. You just don't like the conclusion, so since men own it you just call it sad. But if its sad for men its sad for women too
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 07:51 PM
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I still don't know what you mean by "people themselves know that they shouldn't be caught doing it". I can't comprehend because I'm not afraid of being caught for anything I say. I don't use an alter ego on this sub maybe yall do? I mean I troll a lot and things could definitely be taken too literally sometimes which would be bad if I were a public figure for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 07:40 PM
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What else she gonna do, blog?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 07:36 PM
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I think it does and that was kind of the point abbout "becoming something special".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 07:35 PM
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So then.. benevolent misogyny?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 07:34 PM
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Oh lord, that old Trump quote. He said that when you're rich you can grab em by the pussy, which is totally true because women are hypergamous. I'm guessing he's basing this not even off of his own experience but just from being part of the fortune 500 business world for so long he's seen it happen enough to draw a pattern. Trying to analyse why that is, it might be creepy to you, I suspect its because it exposes something about females and we should be a polite society that doesn't do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 07:26 PM
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So now you're talking about preference utilitarianism. Thats not even close to being an objective morality. Not even counting the fact that the definition of the work prisons do that you just gave is utterly idealistic and untrue. They cause material harm and limit freedom all the time towards people who are non-violent offenders. Maybe you believe prison should only be for ultra-violent offenders?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 07:22 PM
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immoral means causing material harm to others Prove it. I mean, by this vague definition prisons are utterly immoral. Are you in support of total prison abolition?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 07:17 PM
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Atheists can act morally by just following the roots of the cultural Christianity they were born into. But atheists/materialists cannot formulate their own moral system that isn't relativistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 07:16 PM
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She has a point though. Most secularists atheists are simply borrowing their moralities from cultural Christianity, especially anyone who believes in Liberalism. The best secular morality can muster is moral relativism, which is moral chaos
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 07:14 PM
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NARPALT I don't hide my RP views or thoughts from the people who know me. And I'm certainly not ashamed of any of my true beliefs on the matter. The anonymity of reddit is a regular feature for all subs
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 07:09 PM
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The Vestal Virgins were even allowed lol. Allowed. Sounds like some real agency. Also yes I know that "pagan as a religion doesn't exist" and I never said it did, you just wasted your breath on a strawman. My only point which you've done nothing to show otherwise; is that the etymology of the word pagan connects it to folk/country side idolaters. The way you view Mary, Eve, Jezebel, Sara and any of these heroic/infamous women in the bible is through an almost feminist lens, you're saying a posit…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 06:48 PM
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The women probably. Curie, Lovelace yadda yadda. For the men there's probably not enough server space on the entire web
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 11:50 PM
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I didn't say it was equal I said more equal. The Greco-Roman mythology had far more positive portrayals of women than Christianity has. Awfully subjective you have to know that. late Middle English: from Latin paganus ‘villager, rustic,’ from pagus ‘country district. The religion of the Empire was not Pagan in their eyes and before the establishment of the Christian church
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 11:48 PM
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The American dream, Americanism, Christianity. I don't know really, all I do know is that we'll probably be praying towards the east (Mecca) in about 10 years anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 11:20 PM
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I rarely ever come across people who have a strict preference for white, tall and blonde. My GF once challenged me to find 10 blonde haired blue eyed relevant female holywood celebrities and it was wayy harder than I first thought it would be going into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 11:02 PM
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Yeah and they're usually deluded, give em a few years and cats they'll be asking where did the good menz gone
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 11:01 PM
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Right. But what I'm saying is that there is no longer an American cultural creed. Whatever a woman does, if its Islamic terror, if its being a Marxist revolutionary, if its being a comedian they always have the moral high ground. In a more coherently moral society women and men could be better judged as individuals held to a universal standard Look up the leaders of BLM and the "womens march" to see exactly what I'm talking about. You can literally torture and crush the nuts of gay man in the na…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 10:57 PM
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It wasn't just Bolsheviks though, Mensheviks, and Nihilists/Anarchists were also reigning terror on provisional and Tsarist troops constantly
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 10:53 PM
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Lol, Paganism was never equal for men and women. And Romans weren't pagans even though the Catholic church later classified Roman pantheism as pagan. The meaning of pagan is folk religion, its barbarian religion
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 10:52 PM
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Because it used to be that they were wonderful when they stuck to the delicate and refined stereotype or at least the motherly role. Now with moral relativism, they're still wonderful, no matter what they do no matter how low down or depraved
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 10:44 PM
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List em all and then list the men their equals. Then explain it away with patriarchy theory
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 10:42 PM
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The word nursing implies nurturing lol. I'm sure theres some other stuff too. Just like I'm sure that if you broke down the nuance of WWE wrestling you might have to do something "sensitive" every once in awhile, if you squint hard enough
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 10:37 PM
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Turn them into men aesthetically. But remember, for them "men" is a spectrum that includes squirming, screaming and crying as much as possible
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 10:35 PM
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If I were to become a hairdresser I'd assume it to be a female dominated profession, and if I experienced "sexism" in that environment I'd say to myself "well, makes sense"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 10:27 PM
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Men moralize better because they're better at abstract thinking and maintaining order. When females attempt to moralize 9 times out of 10 they're just trying to express their feels and female imperative (to break free from male superiority) When males moralize its an attempt to ignore their base instincts and instead follow a string of logic that leads to a specific idealistic outcome. Thats why feminists always seem to notice that men are always enforcing stuffy rules, making up religions and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 05:25 PM
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Its sexy but I'm personally LTR oriented and moralistic. If I were a sex addict though I'd definitely poach/snipe the abused/BPD girls. I'm guessing a fucked up uncle groomed them to be perverted or a jealous single mother put the idea that they were sluts in their heads at a young age. That leads to a more pro-active female sexuality more often than not. You'd think it'd make girls sex adverse but most internalize the abuse and see themselves the way their abusers framed them. I'm basing this o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 05:19 PM
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Either way the main culprit here, as usual is poverty. Not specific forms of discrimination. In fact MtF and even FtM trans have been an accepted part of the local Hatian/Creole/Black culture here in New Orleans for hundreds of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 05:15 PM
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no no no. They invented it because lowering ourselves to animal instincts was getting us nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 05:12 PM
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Oh, those are the non-binary snowflakes. I know a lot of them from the punk scene. They also OD on drugs and get caught up in shady shit a lot too. The ones from rich proper backgrounds generally do well and go on to work at Google or sum shit
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 05:11 PM
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It not interesting to me. You may have heard of Bourbon Street in New Orleans. It's liter'd with transgender prostitutes. They (the PC police) say its because its the only job society allows them, the prostitutes themselves tell me its just good money. I'll tell you, most are pretty intimidating and the poor thugs don't really mess with them they mess with the white tourists instead. Trans get murdered getting caught up in shady shit usually
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 05:08 PM
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Yep. And its because its a challenge for men to be "let in". For women its easy to get sex. This also why we champion sexually successful men and disavow whores. There's no accomplishment when a woman racks up a count
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 05:05 PM
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meh, female are alway expressing their fantasies to be raped. at the animal level its all fucked up, thats why men invented morality to organize us towards better goals
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 05:04 PM
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Doesn't this prove the premise though? Most guys don't pay for "girlfriend experience" they pay to fuck the shit out of a dirty whore
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 04:56 PM
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hypergamy and child birth is the purpose of sex for females. domination/conquest, procreation and release are the main purposes for men. Men are more territorial overall not just in a sexual way
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 04:55 PM
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U dun goof'd son. gettin that chicken wit blue cheese, wakin up to a two piece
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 04:49 PM
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No they're begging and demanding that ALL of society stop SLUT SHAMING. I mean where is the "Man whore march"? We don't care if you call us that because we know it does nothing to our RMV
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 04:47 PM
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now thats a new one
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 04:46 PM
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No they're murdered because they're usually non passing, sketched out drug addicted and gang members/prostitutes/pimps. A lot are armed too
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 04:43 PM
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I second his sentiment. I don't believe you got this one right but maybe half right. See, men do want those hyper-sexual pro-active women to exist(but they only exist as BPD and abused women). Other feminized men realize the attention they can get from masculine hyper-sexual men, they understand the male sex drive better than females and can act it out better (because they are/were males) Its becoming a market because since marriage and commitment are passe, women are turning super-hypergamous, …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 04:36 PM
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I would say its a response to the increasingly awful dating world and super-hypergamy of OLD. Its basically MWGTOW 2.0. If you cant man up enough and make enough money to snag a bitch, turn into a bitch yourself or get yourself a nice little boy girl
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 04:31 PM
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Well I was actually talking about the context of this sub PPD, the question of if hypergamy is real and if its good or bad if it IS real, is all part of the debate that this sub caters to. In RP terms its just an accepted fact there's no debate really. Its not viewed as good or bad but rather a neutral observation from which a man can strategize his game. My dad taught me that to be a man was to not complain and pity yourself, but to take responsibility for your life. Do you think RP would agree…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 04:25 PM
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Thats just regular insults though, you shoot back and call it a day. But when it comes to shame no, I've felt ashamed of things that I've done which I consider shameful in retrospect, like being a thief and hard drug user. But if its something I feel no shame about then I'm not ashamed. It doesn't even make sense unless you also believe it. I get reverse shamed all the time for promoting chasity (between both sexes) called a creep or the sex police whatever, I feel no shame because its just some…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 04:15 PM
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Hypergamy is about using sex to clime up in status/wealth/comfort. Its not about sleeping around per se, its just that using sexuality and exploiting male thirst is the easiest/effortless route for a woman/girl to take and so sleeping around is the consequence of hypergamy not the essence of it. When we remove all social mores about sluttiness, break down marriage and commitment and generally promote free love you see that women are more able to indulge their hypergamous instincts than ever befo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 07:44 AM
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Err. Christianity is what gave us liberalism and equality. If I were going to live full Patriarchy I'd actually pick Islam. Its not so prudish, more welcoming of harems and polygyny that favors the male imperative etc... The idea of making girls cover up and wear black in the sweltering desert heat is pretty hot/sexy in a sadistic male domination fantasy sort of way although spiritually backward imo Christianity is what builds great civilizations by not indulging either male or female imperative…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 07:31 AM
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How could you not agree. what guy wants to be micromanaged by a haggard wife and if he has a mistress not go ham on her? It runs counter to male sexuality/imperative totally
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 07:25 AM
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Nah, I believe both sexes are divine even if they have differing inferiorities/superiorities This sounds more like some BP premeditated propaganda concern trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 07:15 AM
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I've only been there once. Got called a TradCon and then smacked them down with some Nietzsche and Aristotle. They were "oh nvm so stoic bro" or some shit I'm paraphrasing Tradcon isn't the word for me, we need a word for someone who is conservative but not traditional, unless your uncle was Aristotle you couldn't call me traditional. Actually not even conservative either, I'll call myself an Eternalist/Virtuist Then there's incel RP. MWGTOW RP. PUA RP etc.. All quite different lenses to view RP…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 07:09 AM
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Nope most people know its not bullshit at all. Thats why "liberated proud sluts" still get mad when you "slut-shame" them. One who is honestly steadfast in their views could never feel ashamed for something they don't even feel is shame worthy. Its called lying to yourself. Bloops forget thats possible I think What happens now is that women given free pussy pass get to exploit their most base animalistic impulses and then turn around and shame you for saying they're being animals It doesn't and …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 07:04 AM
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There's no difference. We're not talking Marxist-tendencies vs anarcho tendencies vs liberals on how to organize a work place all that shit is blue on sexuality, its all either totally against masculinity at worst or at the liberal/libertarian end endorsing some myth about the sexes being totally equal in every regard. even some neo-conservatives are blue its a liberalism thing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 07:02 AM
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facts
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 06:58 AM
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Give an example of a damaged virgin. I actually don't even know what you mean by damaged honestly though. Problem with a 20+ 23 yo woman is that shes been imprinted on by too many personalities and has too many intimate connections with possible comeback ex's, creep stalkers and just general baggage. Plus high likely hood she was sexually abused as a child or BPD And thats without even bringing morality/virtue/self respect into the picture which I'm not afraid of although some RP might be aginst
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 06:53 AM
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So you just believe that nothing else stems from this fundamental fact that men are generally stronger? I'll give an example. Because men are generally stronger men have historically been the protectors, warriors, hunters. Even simple facts like this just keep bifurcating into more concepts based on gender roles if you let reason flow unrestrained by PC mores Its really crazy to me how all of these supposed scientific "data driven" people are happy to see a fact like this and just end it there. …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 06:49 AM
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3 And thats how I see most things. Inherent and innate to the sexes but sometimes dormant or undeveloped
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 06:44 AM
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The only problem is that reds are too varied compared to blues. I don't know if to call myself red or purple simply because I'm not even sure what the difference is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 06:43 AM
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One thing men tend to value because of these differences is virginity, low n count or just a non-promiscuous past when talking LTR. Women tend not to care and they demonstrate this fact all the time by the partners they pick for LTRs, they just don't discriminate about n count the way men do. Likely because continual sexual success is a primary marker for male value and high masculinity/dominance. Its not awalt or amalt but just the general sentiment of normal non-fringe hetero males and females…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 06:37 AM
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These aren't the type RP or most straight men are interested in though. These are women who are taking up a vulgarized quasi-male dominant position so the gender role polarity is flipped. they want oral on demand the same way most dominant bread winning guys do. It makes perfect sense to me
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 06:23 AM
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It said career women. Its less fitting of gender roles to desire aggro men if you're a power suit woman. Unless you have a humiliation fetish due to being such a super boss you get tired of being dominant
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 06:19 AM
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But these things aren't all exclusive at all. I say most women like all of the above
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 06:17 AM
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Career women. Its an inversion of classic roles so it makes sense. Career dudes just want a nice blowely after getting home. Seems like these testosterone filled power suits just want a licking
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 06:16 AM
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Sounds like they were convinced but are holding onto their ideology for dear life by rationalizing that MRA/TERF is somehow the same thing with different labels
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 06:13 AM
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They always have and they're speaking now, they want hypergamy, they want high value men and what they value in men isn't the same as what men value in women. Same as it ever was nothing has changed, except that they wear pants sometimes along with dresses
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 06:10 AM
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I don't see that narrative as contradicting mine. The only difference is that you choose to see the eternal way as antiquated and that feminism has somehow liberated women. But I don't believe feminism (the female imperative) is anything new at all, its also an eternal protest, the witches impotent screech against nature. Women are no happier after indulging all this penis envy, turns out they become truly happy when they submit to their true nature rather than turning themselves into vulgar twi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 06:00 AM
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Same its super context dependent now
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 05:52 AM
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Dude thats so funny isn't it? I feel the same way too these days, I was the shit in the punk/metal community when I was BP'd ancom. Now my ears only want to listen to Bossa Nova and classikill
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 05:51 AM
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the salt
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 05:49 AM
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Same story
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 05:25 AM
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Or that its generally easier for women and not so easy for men, therefore more women take advantage of their sexuality for personal gain whether for hypergamous reasons or the attention Then they want to be thought of as sqeaky clean once they had their fill. I have no problem if women discriminate against man whores but hard truth is that women themselves tend not to give a shit at best and at worst actually see a sexually successful man as more valuable for LTR
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 05:20 AM
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Its not antiquated its probably rooted in biology. Women don't slut shame men simply because women tend not to care about partner count for their LTR prospects and men do. Its biological at some point its informed by our sexual dimorphism. Trying to make dudes love and wife up sluts against their will is idealistic equity fetishist utopianism it won't work we're viscerally disgusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 05:17 AM
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Men don't hide behind anything, women just don't tend to care about promiscuity at the same rate as men do when selecting for LTRs in fact it can make the guy seem higher value. I've seen women dump n 1 decent guys for a known man whore more than once.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 05:14 AM
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Because its gone out of style and is at this point impossible to defend.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 05:11 AM
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The BP triggering going on here is just outstanding
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 05:08 AM
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More like be a slut if you want but don't expect your RMV to not go down
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 05:06 AM
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Nope. Its not the case that men are just too "picky" keep dreaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 05:04 AM
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The only problem is that n count doesn't effect RMV negatively for males
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 05:04 AM
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Not TRP I mean irl Sorry, still confused. By unit to you mean something like "tribe"? A single unit, a cog. A less flattering way of saying an individual
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 05:01 AM
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I say that in front of my wife all the time even before we got together. Soft misogyny isn't a turn off for females unless you're completely disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 03:57 AM
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Cause that shit is fucking esoteric to a guy like me
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 03:55 AM
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Its not limited to MLP these days but anything horse related. The Last Unicorn and other things
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 03:52 AM
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I don't think this type of content would blossom so much if it were merely a case of a few dudes making mountains out of mole hills. I have no clue about the dating world being married to my highschool sweetheart and all. But I've definitely felt and seen enough bullshit feminism to know there's a strong anti-masculinity and anti-femininity agenda going on in the western world its quite obvious to me. Extrapolating from that one fact its not hard to believe other millennial men are having proble…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 03:43 AM
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Ok, but that's not someone trying to silence and destroy you, generally. Generally no but there are some groups and crowds even irl that want to defame me or attack me. Mostly because I was involved with ultra violence punks at some point and turn coated away from their slave ideology. But in a general sense its the usual, feminists so called anti-racists and what not. How do you "earn it"? What I take it you're saying is that for the negative traits generally found among the two genders (at lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 03:38 AM
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Most men and women keep themselves down. Sometimes they adopt "liberation ideologies" (feminism, MRA) and think that its actually liberating them, yet they remain slaves all the same
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 03:32 AM
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There's no way for me to know that, I don't go looking through their pictures or monitoring their lives to know. In fact I don't even use TRP just PPD. I suspect a lot are just normal dudes that needed to deprogram their failed BP/feminized thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 03:31 AM
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looks contribute to those other things greatly
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 03:20 AM
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Sexual conquest + release The latter is a need and the former is a hard WANT.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 03:17 AM
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Domination. Conquest. Porn is cuckery for little dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 03:15 AM
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For casual encounter? no
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 03:14 AM
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No its not. I've often said that one thing most guys looking to get ripped on BodyBuilding.com are missing is. A stable GF. Not some scientific break through chemical, just a broad
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 02:24 AM
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hypogamy as others here have coined
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 02:23 AM
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I'm not being dramatic or paranoid when I say enemies, rather I'm acknowledging that there are opposing ideologies and moralities that want to win out over mine. Women like most people follow herd ideologies. I believe people can be individuals and are best when so, but its something you earn you're not born an individual in terms of mentality just because you have a unique code of DNA. BP'ers use the words unit and individual in a too conflating manner imo. I would consider most people units mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 02:19 AM
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First off I don't even believe in chauvinism as a concept. And what was I supposed to say "I'm married to a wife I've known since highschool" she wasn't always my wife so that wouldn't be accurate, and married already implies she's a wife so that would be redundant. Plus I could technically be married to a dude these days or something; so yeah I think you're reaching for some imagined misogyny here
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 02:13 AM
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I'm natural RP and I don't feel like I'm cucking any unfortunate single mom raised betas, incels or whoever. I have a wife and I leave other people's girls alone how am I cucking anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 02:09 AM
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harmful to who would be my question. if its harmful to my enemies and people who seek to either silence or destroy me then why should I care?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 02:05 AM
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I'm married to a girl I've known since highschool. Its been 10 years, goodluck on your recipe for a branch swinging beta male disaster
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 02:04 AM
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Really, because generally I find the content here better than anything /r/philosophy can offer, which is mostly ban hammers for anything remotely interesting. Same with /r/science
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 02:00 AM
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The problem is that the moralities are irreconcilable. We believe women are not equal to men in every way. I believe women and men are more like yin and yang. But just that is enough to be called "anti-woman". If women and men are different in the most fundamental sense (sexual dimorphism) then some AWALT and ALMALT can be true enough for practicality sake
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 01:57 AM
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Arduous, hyper-idealistic and vagina drying
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 01:52 AM
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Sorry having trouble understanding. It might even be my fault. To sum up my point I believe RP is more about studying behavior and less about justifying actions by playing cynical.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 01:50 AM
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She's a cute nurse and he's her first partner. My advice would be to stay but alpha up
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 01:48 AM
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I don't think RP'ers need any justification for their actions, the intent is to get laid. We live in amoral sexcapade Tindr USA. Whats the big deal if it works? The only way BP'ers could have a leg to stand on is if they moralized about sex, but they're committed to sexual free for all, cultural relativism and degeneracy as a matter of principle. What would an RP'er have to justify? edit: one other thing is that I've never had success due to RP, I was already happily committed before discovering…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 01:44 AM
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My wifes BFF is just like that and I feel for her boyfriend. Like I want to somehow expose him to RP so he can whip that broad into shape because her shit aint cute as she thinks
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 01:41 AM
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If we acknowledge that archetypes can be both negative and positive in a moral sense then Chad is an archetype. If you believe archetypes can only be paragons then Chad is no longer an archetype. I think that is what they were getting at
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 01:36 AM
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I don't use regular psychology or evo-psyche. In fact I haven't ever read the side bar or any books of any notable RedPillers. I saw some people talking about things I observed myself one day and it clicked. Just an "ah ha" moment
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 01:31 AM
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I take it you believe he should be under her authority instead
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 01:27 AM
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They're sadists. Its really no surprise that some women prey upon "bowed head in shame guys" Here's a post from a commentor in that article; aptly named not_laid As a male who has been chronically afflicted with moodiness and a tendency for shameful, averted glances I can attest to the fact that this article is utter nonsense. It is simply catering to that female delusion that they are actually after someone "deep" and "profound", when in fact it is the simplest and blankest male, unto whom they…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 01:19 AM
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You can blame them because they're the same ones who would defend feminism on the same grounds (thats just the crazies and the TERFs) Notice how its always the TERFs who get thrown under the bus, they aren't the politically correct feminists what a coincidence
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 01:12 AM
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This analysis is bonk because I'm just a happily married dude chillin, my RP friends are coolin and their RP friends are freezing. We're all just watching how the sexes behave and poking around to see what provokes the PC hornets nest. Usually if governments, media and the general populace want to censor or guilt you for doing something harmless it means you found a harsh bit of truth
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 01:10 AM
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Well under that definition sure, is that the science though? They have no feelings at all? Not understanding the negative consequences of murder sounds more like mental retardation than sociopathy imo. In my own view cold blooded murder is something only ignoble dogs and beasts of the human sort would carry out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 12:52 AM
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For good reason. Even from a womans point of view. Only the most opportunistic and materialistic women (of which there are more of them than men of equal properties) can put up with a guy that puts career first
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 12:49 AM
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Yes they have better access to sex but they still cannot get away with even half the shit the average woman can
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 12:47 AM
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I feel like people use the word sociopath now just to signal that someone knows some shit. Can a sociopath be a good person? Like imagine someone is a "sociopath" yet their morals are all upright, then what?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 12:45 AM
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fringe maybe but not edgy imo. pragmatic and fringe
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 11:39 PM
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Nope in general I don't even consider biology when thinking about people. I tend to see people as either slaves or masters, and if they're masters then I reason about if they're friends or enemies
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 11:34 PM
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Oh lmao you're mad at the biological term female. I remember years ago I trolled some people on facebook taking your stance making a fuss about how "female" is too icky and dehumanizing. I hope you're trolling like I was
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 11:30 PM
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It is but most people will take a freeride if offered, dignity be damned
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 11:29 PM
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I don't know I was just trying to help clarify the other posters words. If I had to guess I think its more to do with PC authoritarianism rather than Marxist class conflict simply because most Marxist workerist regimes dealt with violence more than women would prefer. Women prefer shame and guilt to outright violence
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 11:28 PM
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Be careful with occult knowledge
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 11:21 PM
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The point is that biologically speaking its impossible. ITs like saying "what if the sun was the moon and the moon was the sun"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 11:20 PM
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OTherwise known as unionization
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 11:19 PM
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No. Quite simply I'm attracted to any woman who's pretty. But I'll only put up with very few of them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 11:16 PM
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Well "everyone" is just wrong in that case
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 11:14 PM
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If you choose to be a victim you will. You'll be a pathetic slave, but you'll probably get whatever praise and advantage you crave
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 11:13 PM
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This is why I say men are more moral, or at least better at inventing systems of morality. and women better at tearing them down. Because a lot of the things RP'ers are discussing are abstractions and bifurcating concepts
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 11:06 PM
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females have the world already though
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 10:54 PM
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They're hyping him to scare liberals. A lot of liberals honestly believe he's bringing the Alt Right apocalypse
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 04:55 PM
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Good idea
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 04:52 PM
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Personality might be more gendered. The characteristics that flow from your gender, looks, strength and weaknesses
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 04:49 PM
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Not really. 8chan boards show there's some crazy cute WN girls out there
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 04:47 PM
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Forreal, most people are liberals and Margret Sanger lovers
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 04:46 PM
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Only way to get this is to pair off young
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 04:45 PM
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Isn't career obsessed AND doesn't want kids? Goodluck
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 04:43 PM
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Then why does your camp insist on saying that RP believes him to be a savior. He's an avatar, he triggers blue haired half-ogres so he's a good national symbol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 04:41 PM
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Yeah and that all comes from what. Post Marxism, Bash back, Bernstein, CrimeThinc even Deleuze and Foucalt to some extent. Theres a contingency from Engels to Fabian Society to post-modernism
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 04:38 PM
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That never ended
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 03:41 AM
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Most here would hate my praise, something which I adore
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 03:37 AM
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Yourself, Atlas, Ercole, GroovyEFS and another one or two I can't think of rn edit: questioningwoman because she's trill af and like a modern aristocrat
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 03:32 AM
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You don't learn morality like you learn to drive. Its simply ideation and logic in the abstract, people who don't use it are just morally dormant. Cars they wouldn't even exist if not for morality because it is the glue that gives purpose and without purpose or cohesion technology would not evolve. Tribal people, especially matriarchal ones are the best study in what beast nature/dormant morality gets you. Nowhere
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 03:28 AM
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I'm the least racist person you've ever engaged with most likely
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 03:25 AM
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you're thinking of aesthetically ghetto people, I'm talking about literal low income people
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 03:24 AM
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Loosely speaking. Scientism, multikulti and liberalism
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 03:18 AM
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Why should individual and societal "ethics" be consistent? Sounds like a moral position all on its own
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 03:16 AM
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Weakest prez ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 03:10 AM
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Bp'er believe that politicians care about people so they project that on us. To me Trump is merely a symbol of changing times and nothing more
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 03:08 AM
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Silly fool, they're symbols. They won't do anything for "the crowd" they simply represent a new sentiment. Down with multikulti, down with socialism and feminism etc.. etc..
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 03:07 AM
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Its not him but what he symbolizes. He could be a beta faggot and it doesn't matter because he's an avatar for a brewing cultural revolution
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 03:04 AM
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Okay trinidad james
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 02:57 AM
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I wouldn't mind if they were truly edgy but they aren't and thats the problem. Moral nihilists and relativists are all subconsciously guided by powerful ideologies and religious tendencies that they do not perceive. I'm not a moral relativist anymore because I have my own morality and I believe it is right, I'm not afraid to push it. If you don't push your own beliefs someone will push theirs on you. Being a moral relativist is like saying all moralities are equal, its essentially confusion and …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 02:52 AM
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Psychos. Ifuckinghate film life and music life sucks too. Models seem like cool people though
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 02:48 AM
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Pfffffffttt. 93k is baller for ghetto diggers
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 02:41 AM
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Its something I'd have to talk about in person really. Over text it would degenerate into esoteric nonsense. Something like heretical Greek Christian Gnosticism or Bahai, is the closest thing you could read about that is similar to my own worldview
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 01:49 AM
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All humans are inherently moral because they all possess the ability to be moral. However, most are slaves that give into their hedonic beast instincts, always seeking a high they freely give over their agency to a master whom is the moralizer. Morality is the cohesive operational tool we use to create grand visions for civilization and society, without it we're just animals that can hardly accomplish dwelling construction much less timeless works of art, gigantic cathedrals and wonders of the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 01:36 AM
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Its not like you have a choice. I'm against moral relativism because I once truly held it as my own belief but I soon realized most people who pretend to be edgy or nihilistic are actually moralists themselves, so I was in hypocritical company. I might as well formulate my own morality and lead by example, let truth guide me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 01:26 AM
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I don't hate queerness at all actually, my problem with your new age communist religion is that it tries to compel me to see LGBTQ as some unified bloc rather than individuals with distinct moralities of their own. Equality is not a new morality its old utopian vision and a tale as old as time. Its also orthogonal to reality and therefore tyranical in its consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 01:24 AM
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Because the authority figure imposes his or her morality onto the host. That is not like how animals use authority which is more like might makes right. My point isn't that humans are just animals its completely opposite. We're both animals with a lizard brain and homo moribus. Moralizers. Most people aka the slave class tend to defer to their animal nature. The master class uses their ability for logical and abstract thought to moralize and thus build civilizations, religions, codes and ways of…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 01:20 AM
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That is a way to put it yeah. We have varying degrees of morale. I have my own strict code that borrows from the ancient greek and other ancient cultures, but I don't expect society to be on board with me, so I have "morale" and "mirth"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 10:25 PM
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In groups and cultures too. Religion was the attempt to universalize morality and I believe it actually worked to give people purpose and built great works. These days that morality stuff is passe. Oh unless its the morality of feminism and liberal culture, y'know murder babies and worship queers as some sort of homogenous bloc, if not you're an evil "moralist". We have inverted morality now
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 10:20 PM
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Alphas and visionaries built it on the backs of betas. Slaves shall serve
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 10:17 PM
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They do. I have a few friends like that and they're all BPD type 1, slutty and view sex from a more masculine angle (notches on the belt)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 10:13 PM
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Poverty leads to hypermasculinity not single motherhood. Lots of single moms are black and poor so thats why you get the correlation
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 10:06 PM
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But. LIBERATION! Fuck you DADDY-O
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 10:04 PM
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Mostly religious and quite types that bake things. 87 years old or older
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 10:03 PM
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Our society is really pretty much pathologically amoral at this point. BP'ers, feminists, most people in general support ideas like multiculturalism, abortion, state authoritarianism etc.. Its a moral relativist utopia/dystopia Why should I care what is immoral and what isn't when moral relativism is the big game in town in this day and age? Hardly anyone seems to have the where withal to build and live by an actual coherent morality and set of principles, we're all afraid of being dreaded "mora…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 09:50 PM
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That Police song is actually even creepier than that. Its about omniscient government surveillance
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 09:43 PM
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I believe you meant to say "without men doing it for them"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 09:40 PM
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They're not talking about insular tendencies but objective outside analysis as a whole
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 09:06 PM
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Lmfao. So Gavin McKinnes was right that men were behind feminism all along
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 09:04 PM
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Men won't accept taking everything at face value. We want to really know what feminism is
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 09:02 PM
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Feminism is quite simply the female natural instinct politicized and attached to the most effective form of authoritarian control which would be Marxist dialectics and conflict theory. The haves and the have nots world view, which is actually also just a feminine interpretation of the world but forced through the logical/rational filter of the minds of men such as Marx and Engels
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 08:57 PM
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If alphas didn't exist we'd live like matriarchal tribes. That is to say, no technology, no romance, no higher ideals, no civilization to speak of.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 08:49 PM
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My success rate is just fine, it hurts nothing for me to be skeptical of certain bodies of authority including scientific ones. You're acting as if science is the truth, often times entire paradigms of scientific thinking are dead wrong and other times intentionally misleading in order to push agendas. I trust the scientific method and empiricism not scientists nor bodies of scientists.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 08:41 PM
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How did the first men learn it? Better question is why were people capable of learning morality but other beasts are not? You keep pointing to people behaving without morals as if that is something groundbreaking and that it disproves the existence of morality but it only demonstrates that men are also beasts/animals. Morality exists because we say so, and we're the only ones who say so. Morality comes from within the human mind and from there it exists. Existence meaning literally outside of
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 08:33 PM
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You're a religious fanatic and I will treat you like I would treat a Jehovas Witness at my door, freak
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 08:30 PM
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They feel not accepted because they're in a field where their gender is less present and that is the only reason. The reason they are less present is because women care less about going STEM. Countries like Sweden prove this time and again but you won't accept the facts. And yes a fetus is a child, I'm not sure what else you think it must be. A "clump of cells"? Because thats what you are as well
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 08:28 PM
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Its funny you say all this because I treated my own testicular cancer four years ago. I'll diagnose the lump on my neck and I'll get plenty other opinions as well but I'm not doing anything without drawing my own conclusions first
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 08:26 PM
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Lmao, okay "inconvenient" truth Al Gore. You're an SJW and you believe in a doomsday cult conspiracy. I point my finger and laugh at you. Enjoy your religion zealot
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 05:53 PM
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Appeals to authority all over my face, its callin again dun dun dun
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 05:52 PM
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Different cultures having different moral values in no way disproves my point. I already told you, no other species has morality as an abstract idea. Its inherent to humans wether you like it or not, we're the only ones that can do it. Somewhere back in time there was a person who was "blank" on morality and yet developed it. In my opinion it was developed through logic and gnosis the way the Greeks evaluated where morality and "god" comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 05:51 PM
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In the sexual strategy sense maybe. I'm talking about the redpill as in seeing reality for what it is. You're an indoctrinated cultist if you believe in man made climate change.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 05:44 PM
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Humans are both animals and yet unlike any other kind of animal in their capacity for language and abstract thought. Morality comes from abstract thought, therefore humanity is inherently moral. What you're describing is the tendency for humans to revert to animalism, the id, the way of the "beast". Religions teach about this but somehow 21st century scientists are too stupid to figure it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 05:39 PM
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Its because romanticism is a deep virtue residing in men naturally. We have a better abstract thought process. In todays world romance is dead, the only abstract truth we now accept is the idea of numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 05:32 PM
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Its pretty objective. If you're a guy that can build anything, has a family legacy he raised successfully and has maintained a state of happiness in life. That guy is objectively smarter than some faggot from the Silicon Valley who scores a 180 on your idealism test
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 05:29 PM
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She does actually. There's million of smart people who disagree just sans the degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 05:08 PM
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Anti-scientism not anti-science
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 05:07 PM
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Climate change is bluepill nonsense, if you take the redpill on this subject you will see its just a way for atheists and the "ifuckinglovescience" crowd to have their own doomsday conspiracies, but with an extra bonus, tons of research grant money and taxation Also and this is what I tell my friend whos also antifeminist about climate change. We both agree that usually when you're in the right the opposing side kicks and screams and acts generally zealous and religious in attitude. Poke feminis…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 05:00 PM
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Yeah definitely. I work with a guy who would probably score an 80 on IQ tests but hes without a doubt one of the smartest men I know. He can build anything, he knows when something will or won't work just in the conceptual stage. I recently just built a boat with him. Most high IQ people I've met are arrogant idiots in the most real sense, then there are smart people who are also smart enough to know how to pass an IQ test with a high score. Go look up the guy with the highest IQ and tell me he …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 04:53 PM
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He also said that would be the case. Its not like its supposed to be easy to be Christ like. Its practically impossible and thats the point
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 04:50 PM
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Commitment to logic and natural wisdom
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 04:49 PM
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