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No. Trying too hard to be funny and missing the mark.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 08:21 AM
-1

He looks like every other 60 year old who got a lot of surgery and treatments to attempt to look younger
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 08:11 AM
1

Lol you are just calling the foreign woman a better actress here. Which is fine but call a spade and spade
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:51 AM
1

It’s not sex tourism if it’s tourism to pick up impoverished foreign women with western resources! Right guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:48 AM
2

I like when my man smells like sweat, too. He thinks I’m weird for it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:45 AM
5

I mean, staying in contact with this person is a choice you made and can change.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:41 AM
1

What. I think in this case the “backup” man is the boyfriend and the other guy is just high or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:40 AM
1

Do you though? Or do you date no one but whine about high n count women who also don’t want to date you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:34 AM
2

Yes not getting your dick wet is literally eugenics. Good conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:33 AM
2

But Leo. So obviously all men date 22 year olds not matter how old they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:22 AM
2

I don’t really like interacting with heroin addicts of any gender, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:22 AM
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Wait so you think that for women where money is a consideration a 62k annual salary makes them a consideration? You might be confusing fuck buddy with relationship potential here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:20 AM
10

All that money for skin treatments, the best surgeons and whatever else and Cruise still looks like that. Rough.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:14 AM
14

She looks kinda normal to me, skinny fat and probably pretty with enough makeup. Most people aren’t honestly that attractive and the vast majority aren’t at all fit. This is kinda like how men here rate themselves on the number scale. It’s meaningless and kinda pathetic. If you must use that scale, the people interested in you or not should assign the numbers. I think anyone with any sense knows that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:08 AM
-1

Wait are you saying that good looking people get paid to be good looking? WHAT. Next you’ll say people who are born with rich parents have nicer houses than people with poor parents? What is this world coming to.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 07:52 AM
7

Lol who is comfortably supporting a family on 80k? At least make the claims realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:57 AM
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You guys need to stop being so mad about the standards you are setting yourselves. If you don’t care if the woman you don’t even has a job or a personality then you get what you get. But: “Oh I can’t even get the no job no personality” ok then I guess you are or such low value you really shouldn’t be procreating.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:55 AM
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It does seem that any man who talked about “getting” or “being rewarded with” sex fits the negative descriptions here though. Those particular men fit this description in that they don’t see or value relationships outside getting their dick wet and so that’s how they operate within their lives. It’s just not all men by any stretch. Not even close. Unfortunately they speak loudly and claim to speak for more men than they represent so the ones not like that get painted with the same brush.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:39 PM
1

Courts really don’t like that, but sure, pretend this is how most people operate. The men who live in this state of paranoia and hatred toward women should really just stop dating and havi by sex with them. That is the key to resolving all these issues, not calling up daddy goivemtmemt to make you feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:45 PM
1

And yet on here it’s men going on and on and on about how they want women and relationships and sex. Out in the real world people are just getting into relationships and living their lives though, so I don’t think any of this is an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:43 PM
1

I find this such a hard to believe take. Men are sexually satisfied by porn? It seems more like men who can’t get sexual satisfaction anywhere else settle for porn (outside of those who are addicted to it)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 06:46 AM
1

Eh most women like porn, they just like erotica not videos. I mean 50 shades of grey was total garbage and it blew up all over the world. We just aren’t as visual as me are. Also most video porn is super super fake looking and that kinda kills the fantasy for me, anyway. Maybe porn that actually looked like sex would be ok but I’d never sift through all the trash to try and find it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 06:41 AM
0

Try again to not live in California or….? Men are such whiny victims, this whole thread is honestly just so pathetic. Stand up within your own relationships, or don’t get into one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:58 PM
1

Elope. Planning a wedding sucks, I agree. It’s a very expansive single day and not worth it. I say this as a person who’s been married.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:55 PM
1

Family unity. We make similar incomes and dont have unprotected unshared assets, so no I’m not worried about divorce. I did propose to him, actually. We’ve both been married before and we wanted to change up that dynamic. I already knew he’d say yes, though. It’s a good idea to actually talk to a person and not just spring a proposal on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:54 PM
1

Get one if you want one. If you can’t stand up within your own relationship and need daddy government to do it for you you probably shouldn’t be procreating in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:51 PM
3

Living in this state of paranoia must be stressful.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:50 PM
4

Then don’t sign the birth certificate? You guys want so badly to get out of being parents, get a vasectomy and the issue is resolved.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:49 PM
1

Ok? That’s not an issue a 20 year old guy with a Reddit account can do anything about anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:48 PM
1

The child is being adopted now? The non father doesn’t really need to worry about that anyway. Isn’t this about a feeling of self preservation for paranoid dudes, anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:47 PM
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Lmao seamaxxing, game, dumpster diving. If this forum is proof of anything, it’s that too many people who should never have been capable of procreating, already did.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:51 PM
3

Use that to get a court order once it’s done and get a real test. Or do you think the feminist overlords could present a court ordered paternity test from standing up in court?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:40 PM
1

Go to Amazon. Find test. Add to cart. Wait for delivery. Follow instructions on test. Wait for result.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:38 PM
0

Ya the relationship is already over at that point. Just move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:38 PM
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Women are “preventing” it how? Blocking Amazon from delivering a test he can run himself at home? I don’t care about tests being done, I don’t think the government needs to be more involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:37 PM
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So daddy government should do it for you because you are too afraid to talk to your partner like an adult and run a test yourself? Sounds like a very very weak person being described here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:35 PM
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So don’t? In 3 seconds of googling I found 8 different kits you can do at home and verify parenthood. Why does daddy government need to do it for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:33 PM
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You don’t like lying to her but you like accusing her of lying to you? Pick a lane. Your last sentence makes no sense so I’ll not address that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:32 PM
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You can buy a test on Amazon for $200 (and that’s in CAD so discount it based on if you are in the US). Amazon isn’t going to notify the mom. This is a dumb argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:30 PM
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It’s so weird how this topic is treated. You can get a test. No one stops your from testing your child using your own dna. It doesn’t need to be mandatory because no one is preventing this from being done.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:20 AM
1

I don’t think it does what you are saying it would. Prostitution is legal or legal enough in many places and people still look for and get into relationships. I also don’t think the average woman is thinking at all about the type of men who “need” to go to sex workers. And the high powered type that like it as a power trip don’t let legalities stop them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:38 AM
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There are EAs still, I’ve known plenty in my career and in my personal life. In my industry though, the stem nerds at the top of the corporate ladder are probably not sleeping with their EAs. Maybe on super rare occasions but I can’t imagine it’s more common than with anyone else met at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:12 PM
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Lots of them seem peak in looks at around 30, get someone pregnant or end up married to someone hot and at least semi crazy, get divorced / separated and spend the rest of their lives complaining about her and fighting her in court.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:07 PM
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There are a lot of people who don’t have sex outside of relationships. They aren’t into hookup culture, and generally would have stayed a virgin until they had someone they were serious with. If what you were saying was true everyone would be into casual sex, and you really can’t believe that they are if you know people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:39 AM
6

For $1,000,000 Just kidding, the answer is E) and “fuck off”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 05:37 AM
3

I haven’t seen any woman claim any of this, in life or on the internet. I’m sure it exists somewhere but this description is a pretty extreme outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 05:25 AM
1

Does any non conservative want to fuck a conservative? Seems unlikely to me outside of maybe a self hatred kink. I don’t think this is a gender thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 05:36 AM
1

No doubt. My parents were both single, and both high earners who probably got nothing in the form of breaks or help. Regardless. Where’s my life time of tax breaks?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 05:26 AM
1

Am I made some kid has a roof over his head with muh tax dollars? No. Not for a second. And I say this as a parent who gets absolutely nothing in the form of all the child benefits that my government offers because my household makes too much money. I don’t really buy that kids receiving benefits cost the system as a whole. I’m sure some do. But most people complaining about this seem to think the benefits are paying out big money, it’s less than $1000 a month for all the max of the child benefi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 05:22 AM
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You want “evolution” to explain why you are so obsessed with how many dicks a woman has seen and then whine endlessly when the same “evolution” is used to explain why women might want an attractive and bigger than her man lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 08:56 PM
2

This plays to the idea that women only exist in the context of other people. Men don’t have that “issue” so they aren’t considered flawed or broken if they don’t procreate
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 12:43 AM
5

I imagine those who talk about “fertility” as though they are referring to their prize pig and not another human fall into this category as well
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 12:03 AM
2

There are plenty of men and women who don’t want kids for a variety of reasons. All are valid. Who wants parents who don’t want kids or who only have them because of some feeling of obligation that was bullied into them
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 11:49 PM
2

Yep on both points. Almost anyone is going to look like a better version of themself being fit, having muscle, not being fat. Bodybuilders are generally very aware they don’t have the lifestyle or the look that’s for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 02:54 AM
1

Yep we all know the type
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 01:35 AM
1

Imagine hearing this from someone in a social setting. Hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:48 PM
1

Then I guess you aren’t the target audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:43 PM
0

Lmao. Ok sure
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:42 PM
1

The 10k car doesn’t care if you buy it or not, it’s rejecting you in this analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:42 PM
9

I guess this is a common opinion that explains why so many guys think they can’t get a woman that is equal in looks to them. But if your target market doesn’t agree does it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:57 AM
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Ya in my 22 years being old enough to go to clubs, I’ve never done this nor heard of a women in my social groups doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:52 AM
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Yeah I agree for sure. There isn’t a gender difference in what makes someone a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:23 AM
2

Ya for sure. And then all the people you are resentfully giving more than you have / want to to think you are an asshole, anyway (guess how I know. Not a man but this isn’t gendered)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:22 AM
1

Thanks, I learned the hard way, I hope not everyone has to!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:21 AM
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In the last years what I’ve learned is the difference is boundaries. People who set and maintain boundaries have the bandwidth to hold the relationships they want, leave the ones they don’t, give time to people that is genuine and real, and walk away from things they don’t want instead of string people along or act passive aggressive to try and drive someone away they don’t want in their life. It felt almost counter intuitive when I first started figuring this out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:03 AM
1

Ugh I was married to someone who did shit like this. All I can offer as advice is end this relationship asap. Next they will be spending all the money in the joint account “temporarily, and will totally pay it back but can you just pay the mortgage real quick?”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:59 AM
1

The sex tourism industry is like centuries old, what are you even talking about calling it “surprising”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:26 AM
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I mean justify it however you like, I guess. This thread is pretty indicative of the general view of those who go pick up a 3rd world wife, where the ones who did it / want to do it defend it and everyone else either feels sorry for them or thinks of them as predictors. My personal favourite is how defensive and low key embarrassed the men are who bring back their Thai or Vietnamese wife and are introducing her to their acquaintances or colleagues.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:25 AM
1

They probably don’t bring religious or cultural views into it because those factors are important before you get to the question of sex at all, where a relationship is concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:28 AM
1

I don’t think there is a case for or against it, people should just do what they want to and are comfortable with. I don’t know why anyone gets worked up about what others do with their bodies, assuming it’s consensual. Just don’t be with people who don’t share your values.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:19 AM
1

I mean even if it was true on dating apps 10 years ago, there probably should be an updated look at this lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:12 AM
1

Where I am at least, even the corporate ones take people who aren’t with that particular company. It may vary by club though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:08 AM
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And she’ll realize she followed a guy who couldn’t get anyone back home and that she could do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 11:04 PM
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Yep, the middle age white lady isn’t magically super hot to Jamaican men any more than the middle age white man is to Vietnamese women. It’s all sex tourism
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:55 PM
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Why do you think sex isn’t as fun in relationships? Have you only been in bad relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:07 PM
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Most have been fun. Some have been less fun and less good but the majority were over all good experiences. I had the best sex within relationships or friend with benefit situations. I had maybe one or 2 “good” one night stands, mostly those aren’t worth it so I wouldn’t really go for a one night thing at this stage in my life if I were to end up single again. As for the regrets question, when I was much younger and insecure I had sex with people I didn’t really want to but felt somehow obligated…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:06 PM
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Apparently it does if women are considered over weight by average and men aren’t, when the numbers show men are actually overweight more often. But I dunno I don’t live in a place with many over weight people, men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:34 PM
0

What
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:32 PM
1

That’s a reason to have friends, not to hug coworkers
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:32 PM
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Whatever matters most or least, it’s hard to deny that a person looks better fit than not fit and more thin than over fat (I don’t think most people like over skinny that much, either, though)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 06:42 AM
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You have noticed this because of your algorithms on social media. I don’t think women as “leaving” feminism who were militant about it, but maybe a few that pop up around the red pill videos someone might subscribe to. I’m neutral in that I think it’s all pretty stupid. People should be treated equally, yes. If men want to self improve, that’s great. Everyone should work on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:43 AM
10

This is a good summary for me also. There isn’t a position or body part or whatever that’s magic if the mental part isn’t there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:32 AM
9

If you don’t like women, don’t date women. Why is this so hard for some people?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:18 AM
-1

Ya, it seems more like they are taught what they are and to over inflate a reaction in mocking them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:00 PM
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A girl running up to you at work and hugging you is wildly out of line. I don’t know what generation you are or where it’s considered normal but in the work world that’s not remotely normal. I’ve never seen anyone touch a coworker at all, let alone hug them. It seems like your work place is out to lunch
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:52 PM
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100%, lots of people are not raising their kids like this now though. I see a lot of parents starting with consent and boundaries from very early, not making their kids hug anyone they don’t want to for example. (I think this is good for whatever it’s worth)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:49 PM
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You probably live in a place with a high obesity rate and that’s average. Men being obese often shows on them less, even though the rates are similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:47 PM
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Sounds like role play to me. If you aren’t into it you aren’t. It doesn’t make her damaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:28 PM
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Weird, i for one am shocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:27 PM
1

Yep, every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:25 PM
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Im not going to watch you tube videos but I do know who Miranda Kerr is if you mean it’s her husband. Not sure what billoner is
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:24 PM
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Id have to know who that guy is to put him anywhere. But ya, to your second line, changing an athlete from what they are to any other guy on tinder changes a whole lot about his life 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 07:41 PM
0

These scenarios scream “I’m scared I don’t measure up and therefore I’m going to screech about how she’s seen other penises before”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 07:34 PM
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Do you actually think they are attracted to these men? That’s just delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 06:01 PM
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Considering how many people are arguing how men improve with age, I guess I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 05:58 PM
2

That doesn’t make him attractive, that makes him a pay check.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 05:56 PM
2

Buying a wife isn’t attracting a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 05:54 PM
2

And abortion. What % of Americans have had one and then of that how many are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 07:17 AM
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Young people are still stupid, I see. I’ll go one further, being mad about either thing and responding at all is ridiculous and a waste of energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 06:50 AM
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Yep my partner is not what I would have considered my type when I was younger. Luckily my taste in men massively improved.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:53 AM
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It’s repeated around these parts often enough that many seem to believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:50 AM
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I don’t feel that way. Lol I called it “dating down” so obviously I don’t respect it. Many men seem to though and then they whine and complain that they decided to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 01:02 AM
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I think this is true where the man is already desirable at a young age. The idea that an undesirable man somehow becomes desirable as he ages is not in line with reality, unless you are talking about the “go overseas and buy a wife” type, and honestly the guy who can do that at 50 could have done it at 30 more easily and probably for less money. ETA LMAO at the defensiveness. Sorry guys, your plan to buy a cute young wife once you are rich (oops I mean “alpha”) enough to do it doesn’t mean she’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:52 AM
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I’d encourage men to stop dating down if they are going to complain about dating someone they have to support.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:26 AM
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The people saying this have spent their whole lives without any romantic or sexual prospects and love the revenge fantasy they’ve cooked up. It isn’t reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:11 AM
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Ya, this forum loves the idea that women with a sexual past will somehow suffer in their future.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:10 AM
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It’s so creepy how many dudes here talk about “fertility”. It’s like you are talking about farm animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:08 AM
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This legit made me chuckle. Fan fiction? Wishful thinking? Revenge fantasy? Not sure but it’s hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 11:48 PM
2

Putting my well being in anyones hands but my own seems incredibly stupid. I provide for my family, as an equal to my partner. That’s why I worked when I was working at Starbucks and that’s why I built a career. I did parental leave when I had my kid so I can say for sure being a housewife is a form of hell I wouldn’t choose willingly. Im glad I got the year with my kid but beyond that I’m a waaaaaay better parent while having a career and my own life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 11:06 PM
2

Ah. Well that’s a recipe to stay unhappy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 11:00 PM
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A virgin can get good at sex. I dont think most virgins are good right out the gate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 07:19 PM
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Yep every open relationship I’ve been in was instigated by the man. It’s ranged from some guy who clearly had some kind of rage kink and wanted to fixate on me having sex with other people, to a poly guy who just didn’t do monogamy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 07:16 PM
5

This is the most hilarious response I’ve seen in this forum 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 07:13 PM
1

So since your edit changes the context quite a lot I’ll answer both thoughts. Using “penis size” sounds to me like a proxy for the person wanting to open the relationship not being sexually satisfied by their relationship in total. Unless she’s got some kind of size Queen kink I can’t imagine penis size having so much an impact that this is THE factor. Opening the relationship is going to blow it up. Imo if you go from monogamous to open you better have your house in order or you are asking for …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 07:05 PM
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It’s so much more common than anyone realizes. If you go to the court house and look at the line ups where you have to book or file things it’s self-represented dad after self represented dad. Often going up against a legal aid “vulnerable women” lawyer. Women who take advantage of this do a massive disservice to their children, their friends and family. But the biggest disservice is to actually vulnerable and abused women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 05:08 PM
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I’m the same. It took someone very close to me dealing with family court for me to realize how incredibly fucked a genuinely good guy can get when an evil, entitled woman decides to ruin him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:31 PM
2

So don’t date broke, entitled, insecure women just because they are attractive? Men create their own unhappiness by acting so desperate for female attention that they take literally anything presented to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:26 PM
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I’m 2 years older than my guy. Met in our mid 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 06:59 AM
1

I apparently live in the same fairy tale as my “post wall” old married lady friends who are happily living with our kids and jobs and (high quality by PPD definition) husbands and sexual pasts. I imagine you are referring to some guys who couldn’t get anyone for 10 plus years settling down with us, but that’s far from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:56 AM
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Everyone always has a choice. That’s continually lost here. So many PPD dudes seem to think they can’t turn down their assigned woman, Handmaids Tale style.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:16 AM
1

It’s always men warning this, and it doesn’t seem to actually play out all those years later. It seems like a fairy tale at this point. But whatever makes them feel better, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:30 PM
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I am referring to people who don’t lie about their past. Anyone who lies could lie in any variety of ways so it’s hard to make any kind of blanket statement there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:14 AM
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I don’t think out in the real world this is much of an issue for pretty much anyone. Girls with only fans will find a guy who is either into it or doesn’t care. Girls who frequent sex clubs will find someone who wants to go with her. Girls who just had a ho phase and partied a lot will find someone who either doesn’t care or did the same and isn’t a hypocrite. I’ve yet to have a friend who did any of these who didn’t find and settle down with someone by their early 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 01:47 AM
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Ugh most will try so ya that doesn’t surprise me. No one likes condoms but man, that’s a big risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 03:46 AM
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Not at all. Even lust at first sight is debatable, I’ve never experienced it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:49 AM
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I think I’m a better parent while back at work because the time we do have is me at my 100% parenting. While I was on leave it was 24/7 and felt more diluted if that makes sense. It also means I can afford good schools, activities, and experiences. So I dunno, I’m sure some would judge me for “someone else raising my kid” but they can judge all they want, I don’t care. That being said I live in a place with actual parental leave, not 3 months or whatever the norm is in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 02:42 AM
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There are plenty of stay at home moms who have been asking for this for a long time. I suffer from my programming, personally. I had a very rough time on parental leave because I don’t feel like it’s work and I felt like a burden. I am not happy I felt that way, but it’s what society says often enough that it felt true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 11:01 PM
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I agree that men can be excellent friends. I would also point out because I can’t imagine it’s just me; I’ve never been harassed in public when I was with a man. They create a not so inviable force field of bro code or something. Girls can be good friends too, but probably as often as guys aren’t good friends by trying to fuck you, girls are not real friends either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 10:55 PM
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Yeah, I just have under eye and cheeck. I did try and go back too soon for a top up and she said no so I can see how it could get over done if the nurse is either inexperienced or after more pay checks. I am kind of glad the lip fillers weren’t common when I was younger, I probably would have gotten them and I find usually they look pretty obvious, at least among women I know for sure who’ve had them. I’m know some are less so but it’s mainly those who do it as anti aging, not for extra volume
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 09:06 PM
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And I have heard they also say “if you marry for money you earn every cent” as well. It’s more about knowing what you are getting into than a warning. I can’t imagine anyone in a sugar baby relationship believes it’s forever
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 07:27 PM
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Yep same. And now at 40 I have the best advice for my own kids that I doubt they will listen to 😂 I’ll be doing my best
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 07:24 PM
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Yep agreed but some people go noticiable on purpose. As I said to another commenter the nurse that does my injectables told me on my first appointment that wasn’t her style so she’d send people who want that look to other places.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 07:12 PM
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I have fillers you wouldn’t notice so I’m well aware. Some people go for the extremely artificial Kaedashian look on purpose though. My nurse injector told me at my first appointment That she doesn’t do that look
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 07:11 PM
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I think men pretty consistently say “Botox” (they mean fillers) looks fake and bad. Particularly when you see it in real life. Implants have had their ups and downs in popularity but the majority of men who have ever handled them say they aren’t great to touch, and they would prefer small natural. There are the odd guy who goes for the super fake over filled plastic surgery look but I always have thought it seemed like they liked the high maintenance aspect of it for some reason, not so much the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 01:19 AM
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Most men just swipe on literally every profile. They don’t look at it. They then paste a canned response into the chat. I’m betting they don’t even look at the profile if the girl they are talking to replies, maybe once she agrees to meet or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 07:39 AM
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Over the hill. Had my first love at 16, moved in together at 18, broke up at 18+a few months. I very much regret moving in with someone at that age. It’s not the time for a serious relationship. I have a kid with my forever love. It took us a while to meet and get together but it was worth the journey
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 02:52 AM
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And the hot wife with average man is a very well talked about sitcom trope. King of Queens, Everybody Love Raymond, Modern Family, even Family Guy played on this trope. My Name is Earl, Sex and the City (though wealth explains Charlottes marriage so probably a bad example)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 11:55 PM
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For a serious relationship? I like to spend time weekly at least. When living together I like the vast majority of days. A week here and there for work is obviously normal and fine but I wouldn’t have had a kid with someone I was essentially long distance with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 02:41 AM
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I don’t know very many women who got married under 29/30 years old. Most actually met their partners around this time. Among college / university educated anyway, it’s not too old.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 11:50 PM
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There are some posters here who are fixated on women dating criminals for some reason. They seemingly believe this is a common issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 11:48 PM
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I know OP is trying to get info from women who met pro basketball players on Instagram or something, but there are actually a lot of different kinds of athletes and a ton of hard working semi starving actors if you live in a place that has a film industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 11:42 PM
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Just have experience in the athlete category but it’s kinda hard to date someone who travels extensively and revolves their life around eating and training to the extent that a pro athlete does. At least it’s tough as someone who’s not also an athlete. We met through a family friend. It lasted a couple of years but it was pretty long distance due to the travel even though we had the same home base. I don’t regret it but I prefer someone I can spend more time with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 11:40 PM
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Im pretty sure this person doesn’t go outside. The obsession with women dating criminals indicates a massive amount of tv watching.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 04:57 PM
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Lmao you need to experience the actual world, instead of worry so much about all these “drug dealers” that are knocking up “so many women” Are you also mad that your tax dollars are putting so many non violent men in jail and keeping them in poverty? Or that so many of your tax dollars are spent picking international pissing contests? Because that’s costing your family a whole lot more money than single moms are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 04:55 PM
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It’s so weird to care how stranger who aren’t hurting others feel about themselves. You may want to reflect on why you think doing this is good use of your energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 05:31 AM
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It’s very weird you care this much about these random strangers you never intent on interacting with in real life. Hobbies might help.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 11:22 PM
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Seriously. It’s not enough to just decline she much feel SHAME. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 11:16 PM
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Plenty of people aren’t ashamed of things that others don’t like about them. For the vast majority, expecting men or women to fawn all over you is probably pretty delusional though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 11:13 PM
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Lol k
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 07:59 PM
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Men are the same, they just apparently don’t let attraction actually be a filter. the ones here talk about low / non existent their standards are with who they still try to hit on, anyway. Women just aren’t so desperate so attraction is used as an actual evaluation tool.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 06:02 PM
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Lol if you excuse red flags without her talking to you, the vetting is very easy. All I see if someone being mad you don’t make the cut
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 06:00 PM
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Lmao RIGHT. Picky for everyone except the one guy who wants to date us, apparently. A prude until she meets they guy who wants to date her and then she’s magically this nympho They say 50 shades of grey was a womens fantasy, but reading this forum makes me realize it’s more than mens fantasy that anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 05:17 PM
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Hahaha yep for sure, I also worked reception in my early 20s. They love the power dynamic or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 02:55 AM
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Probably none but I’m older and myself and my friends are all educated professionals with careers. I know it’s probably not the intention of the question, but since I also have guy friends, I don’t think I have any guy friends who have done this, officially. I’ve got guy friends who take women they aren’t dating on trips and out a lot and pay for everything and probably would “get” those women, otherwise though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 02:55 AM
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Ya I get that, but as a lifestyle choice of course it’s not going to be appealing to date someone. I guess I shouldn’t include having a car but I don’t really think someone still living with their parents should consider themself ready to be dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 02:53 AM
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Ya I mean I don’t know how you define older but that’s very bare minimum for anyone after university age… And definitely I don’t mean “having money” as just having your own place and a car.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 05:57 AM
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I don’t think the girl you are talking about generally counts online attention as actual options. There are a lot of “super hot” bots and fake accounts and a few super thirsty girls seeking attention and none are actually looking for love on an app. At least in my experience knowing super attractive girls. Even the ones seeking attention online seem magically to meet someone in real life to actually date. So their pool of eligible men isn’t actually as big as you may think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 11:03 PM
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Why worry about people you don’t want to date. Don’t date them. This isn’t hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 08:52 PM
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Exactly. If you are going to talk shit about how your wife is a hairdresser or a barista, date and marry someone who isn’t. Quit being so desperate and pathetic and you’ll appeal to someone who you actually want to be with. Why is this so hard for some people?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 05:52 PM
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If you don’t care about income or education then I hope you aren’t also whining about alimony. It literally exists so the baby trapped no income potential partners of those who have income and earning potential don’t stay trapped.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 04:47 PM
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It’s a pretty rare 18-25 year old that made their own money. Like congrats on the rich parents if you have money at that age, but being born wealthy and then dating within your socioeconomic class and picking up pretty girls with your parents money is not a personal achievement.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 04:43 PM
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Yep. Like how there are plenty of men who don’t want their partner to be a dependent, there are plenty of women who don’t want to be a dependent. Being desperate and getting into a relationship you don’t want isn’t mandatory for men or for women. No one has to choose someone they don’t want or respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 04:14 PM
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Most people since dating has existed would go on dates or have short relationships while dating. This is not new. Lots of men get to know someone and decide it’s not going to work out long term, also.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 04:33 AM
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The imaginary frenemy of those who can’t get the women they want even though they apparently have 0 standards (because somehow having 0 standards should make them appealing lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:59 PM
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This can not be based on any real conversation that’s been had, let alone a commonly enough had one that it warrants a CMV
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 05:40 PM
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Ya this whole thing has me so confused. When in any conversation in real life has this come up?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 05:39 PM
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Right??? Why argue about what “all women” should or shouldn’t like or want. Do what your partner likes and wants and you like and want. No wonder so many people are sexually unsatisfied
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 05:33 PM
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ITT: men claiming they are improving their relationship appeal by working on their looks. Does it tell you anything that almost every reply from an unhappily single person is doing the same thing and it’s not working? But hey, keep following your TRP gurus who sell you the same thing over and over that doesn’t work 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:24 PM
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Yep I’d be interested to see the overlap between the guys who think they shouldn’t have to “help” with the house who also whine and cry about women not wanting them. Hint: don’t be a child in the house for her to take care of and maybe she will want you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:17 PM
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Lol no. You can take that guy down at least 3 points on whatever number you assigned him if he behaves like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:08 PM
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Yeah, this OP sounds like someone who will eventually refer to taking care of his own kids as “babysitting”. Hard pass on anyone like this
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:41 PM
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Referring to taking care of the house he, an adult, lives in as “chores” just sounds like a man child looking for a mommy to take care of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:39 PM
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Yeah I’ve been a stay at home parent to an infant and I’ve been a 6 figure earning office worker. Being a parent is far more demanding, for tougher and left me with far less free time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:36 PM
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Maybe? I’m Canadian but I always default to thinking it’s most likely an American when something is written anonymously online lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 11:26 PM
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Ya it’s pretty bizarre. It makes me think the US is just non stop drive bys and random break ins or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:55 PM
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That 45% stat uses a wild age range. Kinda makes the stat useless imo. Most men and women aren’t getting married in their early 20s (or in their 20s at all) these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:41 PM
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I doubt a single one of the names you’ve posted would be Considered mainstream. I’ve never heard any of them and I post on PPD. As always, your algorithm is showing you the content you most often search for. Surprise surprise
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:39 PM
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Lmao yep I did allllll my first drugs at boarding school. I’m pretty sure that’s where I got drunk for the first time, too
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:35 PM
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Ha yeah when I was single and younger, it was always the stock brokers getting someone to come sell them more coke 5 times a night.(I use past tense since I’m very much not around those kind of people any more, not because I think times have changed)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:33 PM
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Congrats on the lack of backbone then, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:15 PM
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I like living with my partner so I wouldn’t opt for this. We were basically living together split between two houses prior to moving in so having one house means big savings and seeing each other about as often
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:06 PM
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Where is the benefit women have invented by choosing to live separately from the person they are in a relationship with? It sounds the same as every person’s living arrangement prior to moving in with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:05 PM
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Is probably sleep around since that’s what I did as an attractive woman. Not daily, I don’t get how anyone has the time or patience to do that, but when I felt like it. I’d date and then marry someone who was an equal to me in education and income and values when I was ready. Which is exactly what I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 09:27 PM
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Responses like this are so useless. Do you want a cookie for deciding to marry and support a leech? I don’t think anyone here replying that housework should be split thinks what you are talking about should be the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 09:20 PM
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It should be. Marry an equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 09:13 PM
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Something tells me this only goes for manDoctors and not ladyDoctors.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 09:13 PM
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This is basically me, I do more laundry as it’s easy for me to squeeze in between real work, where my partner would kind of have to build a day off around doing it to get as much done in one days as I do. He cleans the bathroom more often and cooks more often. We don’t keep score but We touch base from time to time to make sure we both feel things are equal and we almost always do
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 09:09 PM
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Income has absolutely no bearing on how much or little house cleaning needs to get done. If the higher earner wants to pay some third party to clean, that could be an option. The fact that this person needs to mention they do their own laundry kinda screams that he’s not actually contributing to keeping the house clean and that he’s dumping the housework on his girlfriend. It sounds like faked incompetence actually. My partner works from home. He’s working not doing household tasks. Work from ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 08:59 PM
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I mean, selling sex is honest, if you don’t like it you don’t need to buy it. It’s not demanding money it’s offering a service for sale. If you equated women demanding expensive dinners or something your question would be more of a direct comparison. But either way if it’s still on the app and someone is just wasting time by asking for nudes or saying they won’t meet you for coffee because it has to be a date ot some $$$$ I don’t think either is necessarily bad. It’s just a few mins of wasted ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 07:31 AM
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Ya I mean I like to give a blowjob but i don’t “give” sex. I have sex as a mutually enjoyable thing, it never occurred to me prior to finding PPD that having sex was giving something to someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:40 AM
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I think anyone posting on Reddit about getting laid now and then marrying virgins later are really doing either but wanting it is still hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:38 AM
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Lol yes I’ve rarely seen anyone announce how bad they are in bed, so clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 03:59 AM
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I feel very sorry for you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 03:58 AM
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Lmao generally at least the prize or the person “winning” it should be able to tell who the prize is. There is a hole in this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 01:00 AM
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Then why can’t the stop this incessant whining :(
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 12:46 AM
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I feel sorry for anyone who thinks about sex in this way, but more sorry for the women who somehow end up with them. What a miserable way to look at such an important part of a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 12:40 AM
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Ya a big tell is referring to having sex as “getting” sex or “giving them” sex. I always think “this was written by a man who has never and never intends to give a woman an orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 12:32 AM
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You can still find someone who values her own career and doesn’t want to stay home if that’s important to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 07:39 PM
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Not having a housewife completely solves this issue. Marry an equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 07:31 PM
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Family court is enough of a he said she said he’s abusive she’s abusive shit show as it is. Making it more difficult / combative and litigious to divorce seems like an insane idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 07:23 PM
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Genuinely and with interest. If you sound like you memorized a script or are using generic lines or just approaching literally everyone, you’re going to have a bad time
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 07:18 PM
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I think one of the internet’s favourite things is to go into some Reddit echo chamber they disagree with and use it as an irrefutable example as to why Reddit is a toxic misinformation machine. You could pick literally any topic and do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 07:16 PM
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Got to love self professed creepy pathetic virgin chasers arguing why they aren’t creepy or pathetic, as backed up by only the other men who go out and do the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 07:00 PM
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Again and again and again, no one cares if men who are virgins want a virgin. What people here discourage is the hypocrisy of fucking your way through your 20s and 30s and then thinking virgin hunting doesn’t make you a hypocritical sociopath
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:50 PM
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Removing sociopaths and people who lie and manipulate for sex should be part of this conversation, if PPD dudes goal is to be like them, I think almost universally women will never give a fuck about their dating, relationship or life prospects. More women see relationships as the path to sex not the other way around. The argument that women don’t “see” how some men can’t get any kind of sexual prospects isn’t accurate. We know. We see no value in being able to just fuck some random stranger with…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:45 PM
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Thinking of women as “available to fuck” or “not available to fuck” instead of as someone to get to know, spend time with, like the company of, be in a relationship with, ect, is not going to improve sexual or relationship chances. It’s going to have the opposite effect. Men who think of women like this generally show it and remove themselves from the pool of options pretty quickly. As said this isn’t the 1700s. Women have absolutely no reason to spend time with or pretend to like a man who thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:08 PM
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I think this whole post is an indication of a problematic attitude toward porn, it’s really just red flags everywhere. It seems like there is an implication of using porn instead of being in a relationship or having any kind of interactions with human beings. That’s a major issue for whoever is using porn in that way. Porn is like any other media. If you replace all your human interaction with video games there’s a problem. Same with porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 03:59 PM
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I wouldn’t but every person and relationship is different. Disrespecting the boundaries of your partner / relatoonship is the issue, regardless of labelling it cheating or not. My partner had a girlfriend who considered watching porn cheating. So to her, this probably would be. I wouldn’t care beyond wondering why anyone is bothering to save so many pics like this in this day and age lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 03:55 PM
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Yea they think it’s a gotcha 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 01:38 AM
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I’d have more respect for someone who’s been to a prosititute a couple times than someone who bankrolled and sugar baby. There is something far more pathetic about the latter. Assuming ethics of both situations were equal (which is a hard thing to assume)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 01:34 AM
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I think the behaviour of someone who is pretty is connected to the confidence, outgoinness, and comfort with herself that comes from growing up pretty. There is in my experience a pretty big correlation to how outgoing (maybe extroverted but possibly not) and how attractive someone is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 05:14 AM
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I’d run like hell from someone who’s family invaded my privacy or snooped in my business like that, and certainly not be with a partner who thinks it’s ok if his family does it (or worse, did it himself). That’s a massive tell that him and his family are controlling, overstep / don’t concern themselves with boundaries and will be in my business non stop. No thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:44 AM
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Ya she’s the one who really dodged a bullet in this story.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:21 AM
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For many women, no it doesn’t. Bad sex isn’t better than no sex. That women are opting not having sex instead of having bad sex should give you the actual answer here. Or keep saying it isn’t true and believing we are all having sex with the same guy, I guess. Whatever makes it easier to swallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 04:27 PM
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t Hg to Jo
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 06:42 PM
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Most of the sex in porn isn’t close or intimate which to me is what feels good. If you could watch him going in and out from across the room I’m probably not enjoying it. Also anal without a long slow warm up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 01:29 AM
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Ya getting mad about what people who you don’t want to date anyway want is beyond stupid. What a waste of energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 12:55 AM
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Yeah I mean when I was single again in my mid 30s I had way higher standards than when I met my ex husband at 23. I’d never have dated him or someone who fit his profile once I had my life and career together. And yes, I found someone who meet my standards and we are happy together.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 12:53 AM
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Yeah I mean when I was single again in my mid 30s I had way higher standards than when I met my ex husband at 23. I’d never have dated him or someone who fit his profile once I had my life and career together. And yes, I found someone who meet my standards and we are happy together.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 12:53 AM
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You must not know any women, that’s definitely something they will say about a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 08:13 PM
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This type of question translates to “hi I have no social skills or self awareness” more than anything else. You can ask people about themselves and get to know them and get the answer to this without seeming like you have only learned about human interaction from tiktok videos and online forums.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 08:02 PM
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This was my thought. If you meet someone for the first time and they are combative (“what makes you so special” type talk) or make the conversation feel like a job interview, she’s probably not going to bother seeing you again. But there are absolutely ways to ask these questions. One would involve sharing what you bring to the table / have to offer, also.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 07:57 PM
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Interesting place to put this comment…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 11:59 PM
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This, but the Calgary flames. For sure this year, boys 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 08:09 PM
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Hm ok it’s weird because in real life I’ve never really come across women who would want to date a younger man. I’m older so in the demographic that apparently would.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 07:45 PM
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Is there some reason to thing the people in those threads have that doubt standards? Because it looks to me like you picked 2 completely different sets of people to compare the opinions of. This is pretty much like saying people of PPD are hypocritical because they are people who follow red pill TikTok channels and also they are people who think red pill tiktokers are charlatans.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 04:41 PM
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Lmao dance therapy? Ok. The advice is to join some social version of the thing you enjoy (an ultimate frisbee team or a wine tasting club or whatever the thing you like is) not creep in on things you think women will like to try and date them. When that’s the interpretation of the advice then ya, the individual is the one that’s the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 09:58 PM
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Wow. Pre current dating culture by a decade at least. I tried online dating in 2005. It was on a computer and half the people didn’t have photos and no one admitted they used it to anyone unless they were in the lgbt community or an older nerd. This isn’t at all a comparable set of people to be using as the authority on modern dating 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 09:53 PM
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Aren’t they? I don’t think the average person has any respect for the people in either said of that arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 03:37 PM
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That’s not what I said at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 03:28 PM
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Isn’t this claim from a very old ok Cupid study? Maybe if the basis is that old it’s time to look for new sources anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 03:27 PM
1

France isn’t a third world country so if you manage to pick up women with your wallet there you are rich and could do the same in the US. It’s racist to fetishize impoverished 3rd world women in general but if you are picking up someone in some tourist trap both them and you know the score. It’s just work.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:05 AM
1

I thought the gold digger trope had been mostly replaced by the more official arrangement of sugar dating. I’ve known women who could be called gold diggers. Each was at some point actually an escort, but then managed to land an older rich man to have kids with. They aren’t 2-3 points higher though. Women who do this tend to be absolutely gorgeous. I don’t think this magic low 6 figure benchmark that gets talked about here is enough to land a gold digger. If it is, she’s probably from a trailer …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:42 PM
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I think 30 is a bit young for this assertion. 35+ seems more the range to make this claim for. But the men here just confuse every 35+ year old man with those that have enough money to finance a sugar baby type relationship. Maybe some are attractive enough to not need it to be quite so official as an allowance, but picking women up with your wallet isn’t that far off sugar dating any way you want to spin it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:37 PM
1

I mean any sugar daddy / sugar baby relationship is sex work. But being a sex tourist doesn’t necessarily mean you are outright paying for sex. It takes many forms which 3 seconds of googling will fill you in on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:30 PM
2

If someone used the red pill language in real life I think any normal non red pill Reddit user would think they were very weird. The language isn’t normal to anyone who has in person conversations with human beings. It’s pretty common knowledge that “dating” in third world countries is just sex tourism, so that will get you a negative reaction for a different reason, at least among educated upper middle class people like those who I am around. The paragraph your wrote about yourself seems like a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 06:29 PM
1

They want the virgin turned whore just for me who somehow is attracted to only them even though they objectively agree they aren’t remotely comparable to (insert whatever male celebrity) women apparently have made our standard. Men here are more into 50 Shades of Grey plot lines than any woman I’ve come across.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 05:22 PM
1

I can’t imagine why someone sexual preference needs to be stated publicly. Like no normal person is going to do that. The reaction you see if probably because people see the person saying this as someone who completely doesn’t understand social situations or interpersonal interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 05:00 PM
2

And yet here you are
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 01:36 AM
0

It’s the Reddit version of “I wouldn’t fuck you anyway, bitch 😫“ What else is there to say than …ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:16 PM
1

Lol doing the internet equivalent of flipping over a table and storming out doesn’t mean you “win” an argument. People just think you are a child and stop engaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:13 PM
1

This is hilarious. Spend a couple weeks searching for banjo instructional videos until your algorithms adjust and then come lecture Reddit on how popular banjos are. Or go talk to actual humans and see what they really discuss.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:10 PM
1

Funny, Reddit is the only place I’ve seen it come up at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:05 PM
0

For sure. I find it ridiculous to apply to anyone though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:04 PM
1

This is exactly it. It’s usually one of many many issues
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 06:58 PM
1

Except all them men sleeping with and dating those women, I guess. I’ve very rarely come across women who tried to get into a relationship and couldn’t. And actually the ones that have struggled the most with relationships aren’t ones who sleep around, they tend to be very picky and that’s what’s stopping them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 06:51 PM
5

I think most of us here are confused as to why these men thing anyone if forcing them to date anyone at all, let alone someone they consider “too experienced.” They should try being less desperate instead of complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 06:49 PM
5

If this is the kind of thing you are actually doing it isn’t your opinion on sex that’s the problem here
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 06:44 PM
1

Lol there isn’t any chance that one point of opinion is the issue when it’s every girl disliking a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 06:42 PM
3

You can date to your preference without publicly declaring it. I prefer men with a clean house. One second in his house gives me this information, I don’t need to squalk about it to anyone to make a choice about dating him. Anyone with the social skills to go walking around publicly declaring that they prefer virgins probably has a whole lot else deterring people. It’s likely not actually the virgin preference that’s causing people to recoil.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 06:41 PM
1

Most men I’ve known that fit this description are looking for someone with the same plans and values as him. Like on the same page about kids, and probably about pets. All I’ve known wanted an equally educated equal earning partner, not a stay at home wife. The few very wealthy I’ve know to agree to a stay at home wife didn’t seemingly start out wanting that. But where I live 6 figures isn’t stay at home wife money unless you are like mid high six figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 03:55 AM
5

Parenting time and custody: this should default to 50/50 and men shouldn’t have to fight to get their kids. It’s atrocious that there are people who will keep good parents away from their own child. (Before anyone jumps down my throat I’m aware of the more often scenario but having supported my own partner through court and custody fights has been very eye opening) Teach everyone how to have emotional intelligence, have hard conversations and be honest. And how to recognize abuse, what is and is…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 05:43 PM
1

I did care. I wanted someone with a similar lifestyle to me who worked similar hours (office hours.) It’s also so nice to talk to someone who has an education. I was married someone who didn’t, and while he was smart it wasn’t at all the same kind of banter /conversation as my current partner and I have. Also I know my partner and I now will impart the same education values on our kids, which is also nice to be on the same page.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 08:55 AM
3

Lol sure. Millions would believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 10:37 PM
3

Nah, I’m not interested in FDS or manosphere circle jerks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 08:45 PM
-1

I really don’t think the people you believe care are giving this one second of thought. But I guess it’s probably a nice fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 08:44 PM
4

Ya…. I get that this is the fantasy of the men who can’t get anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 08:43 PM
4

I thought women couldn’t get an alpha any more and they’d why they settled, so now all of a sudden they are 45 and going back to the alphas? You guys are so desperate to be victims you forget to make any sense of your claims
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 07:51 PM
2

Weird because that’s basically identical to what happened to me, except I’m the woman. I guess that means all men do this? You guys are so desperate to prove why you should be unhappy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 07:50 PM
7

Ya ime they complain far more openly
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 07:20 PM
12

I love how “the draft” is a go to. How many women have any of you ever met who are in favour of there being a draft of any kind? 😂 but ya, got us, we don’t want to go to war, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 02:43 AM
1

We do chime in, and get told we are wrong. So I guess people can keep doing and worry about whatever they will do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 01:00 AM
1

I have the same thoughts on any single parent: If you want it more than anything and you have help - a village of help - you can provide the family, friends, tools, resources, education to a child. Having people around you who are close, form relationships with your child, and care about and for your child of both genders is important in my opinion, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 10:22 PM
3

Woman but I wouldn’t because I don’t want to have transactional sex. Desire is the turn on, and the enjoyable part, not just chasing an orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:08 PM
2

There is never a guarantee of anything about a relationship so it’s kind of ridiculous to imply you can choose to guarantee a partner won’t cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:03 PM
1

The first is some bizarre list that makes no sense. The second is like… almost every person out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:00 PM
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Attractive is 1 of many factors to consider in dating someone. Already being friends means you have insight into the other parts of that person and you don’t need to try and date them to know if you’d be incomparable. So it’s to not ruin a friendship over a relationship that wouldn’t work out anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 07:43 PM
1

The only time someone becomes entitled to another persons assets is when they gave them to them and then tried to take them back. Be with someone on equal ground and you won’t have this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 12:15 AM
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Yep. If they merge assets with someone with no assets then wtf do they think is going to happen when those assets get split. Divorce is as transactional as marriage. And people would do well to look at the laws where they live before assuming not being married is some magical remedy for not having to pay support…. That’s very much not the case where I live and in many locations.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 12:13 AM
1

No. I’ve always only dated men who wanted to date me. If I felt like I had to compete I’d not bother. Games are tedious.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 11:58 PM
2

Ya the first seems pretty rare when the couple is adult enough to be having a kid (age varies here, I’m talking maturity level.) Split arrangements where it’s close to 50/50 I wouldn’t call anyone a single parent. It’s pretty disingenuous actually to call someone with a dad who had equal time and financial commitment to the kid a “single mom”.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 11:56 PM
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Plus relationships generally end for reasons specific to that relationship so being specific isn’t really that helpful when talking in the generality of single parenthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 11:51 PM
16

Marriages end… it’s not a magic cure for breakups lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 11:49 PM
2

I don’t know anyone with any degrees of separation who had a child from casual sex. I’ve known 2 people to break up while pregnant and keep the child so I guess they are choosing something like single parenthood but in both cases both parents are very in the picture and work together with 50/50 custody. I don’t really know why the average person would choose to be a solo parent, but someone with enough money to hire full time help, I do get it if they want a child but haven’t found the right per…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 11:47 PM
0

Do they? It seems ridiculous and I’ve never heard of it outside of memes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 11:45 PM
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Ya, it’s a hilarious build up for them to become exactly the beta bucks they think they are above. They just think they’ve won somehow when she’s not (yet) a single mom but they make her exactly the single mom they are afraid of - the women that spousal support / alimony exist because of.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 11:42 PM
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Ya, it’s a hilarious build up for them to become exactly the beta bucks they think they are above. They just think they’ve won somehow when she’s not (yet) a single mom but they make her exactly the single mom they are afraid of - the only spousal support / alimony exist because of.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 11:42 PM
2

Ya, it’s a hilarious build up for them to become exactly the beta bucks they think they are above. They just think they’ve won somehow when she’s not (yet) a single mom but they make her exactly the single mom they are afraid of - the only spousal support / alimony exist because of.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 11:42 PM
3

That’s what OP is screaming but the post as a whole screams “I need a very large amount of psychological help asap”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:53 PM
2

Ya the obesity situation is pretty dire in a lot of places. I’m in a “fit” city so I forget until I travel. But I always heard tinder and whatnot were full of bots and social media / only fans girls looking for follows? Maybe that changed and there are actual people on there now?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 05:36 AM
3

Can automod just link this post in response to every comment where some man is whining about how the EXTREME levels of privilege women have in being approached by men they aren’t interested in or attracted to? 😂 because tl;dr turns out you guys don’t like it either. Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 05:26 AM
1

It’s not just clutter, little kids get food everywhere no matter how hard you try to contain. They may or may not be fully potty trained depending on their age. There is lots of cleaning to do, not just tidying up toys that get dumped all over.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 07:30 PM
2

They sweep all the crumbs off the counter onto the floor and call it done 😂 there, spotless!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:42 PM
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I mean you shouldn’t play “if this then that” with sex and relationships. You are setting up a pretty toxic dynamic. Just find someone you are sexually comparable with. I think anyone who wants a thing they won’t do is being selfish if they actually expect their partner to do it. I might like things that I don’t want to do, but I wouldn’t expect them of my partner. That seems very hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 03:51 AM
1

No, I’d lose interested immediately if someone couldn’t even be nice to my friend while he was trying to pick me up. That speaks volumes of their true character.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 03:48 AM
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It kind of depends. With little kids everything feels like a disaster at all times for a while. You need to be a team even when one is the main parent. We split parental leave, and are lucky enough to have been able to make it about 15 months. There was full understanding that the one working much harder was the one on parenting / home duty. And that shit gets left over at the end of the 8 hour shift of offfice duty time is spent and at that point it’s both on parenting and house duty. I think a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 03:46 AM
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With little kids? Haha right. We wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 03:40 AM
1

So this is still just an online dating summary? Why is anyone surprised that when picking someone out of a catalog (with a between 6-1 and 9-1 men to women ratio) of faces the more attractive are being selected first? From what I’ve seen the majority saying other factors are as or more important are also saying stay away from online dating and meet people in real life. Or keep using online dating and complaining it’s unsuccessful, it almost seems like an additional evolutionary filter at this po…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 12:10 AM
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I actually have no idea. I’m curious about that. I’m in Canada and college is different here as far as I can tell. You don’t get a degree from college so I get a little scrambled trying to figure out what the American stats mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 12:04 AM
2

Sure. But it’s basically guaranteed if you target someone with no career or prospects and support her as a stay at home mom for a decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 11:33 PM
1

Are you considering teck diplomas and whatnot to be degrees? Because just anecdotally it seems the majority of nurses, dental techs, xray techs, ect are women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:56 PM
4

This is a pretty dumb take. Why would someone stay in a relationship they are unhappy in?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:55 PM
1

Not my experience. Or the experience of other divorced women I’ve talked to about this. Or what my lawyer told me, but lawyers can’t be trusted for shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:54 PM
1

I never understood that. Bumble has a specific setting for friends, it seems like it would be more sucessful
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:51 PM
1

My multiplier should be more like 3
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:49 PM
1

You get your body back tenfold easier and faster if you are fit before and during pregnancy though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:48 PM
2

The whining and crying over alimony and child support really suggests the lack of hearing your second to last point is an intelligence issue more than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:47 PM
1

Yikes. Have you ever known someone to have a still birth? Have you ever known someone who lost a child? Those are not things people usually recover from. We are talking total collapse of two adult humans against what’s been considered sure enough death of a fetus or infant and the parents have decided to go through with a pretty late abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:44 PM
2

I think anyone with friends has seen the way this happens. Early 20s: early relationships, figuring things out. Kinda worried about career and life, and probably settle into relationships you wouldn’t with more foresight and high standards. Mid to late 20s: out of those early relationships, re assessing working to establish your own life. Not in a rush to settle down because you have friends, a life of your own, and are pretty happy single as compared to being in those early relationships Early …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 09:41 PM
0

Lmao that you think this is serious. I’d fucking kill my self working in a coal mine before letting that be my future, no doubt about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 09:21 PM
1

Impoverished women staying in miserable marriages decreases the divorce rate 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 09:20 PM
2

Oh for sure thank you! It was years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 09:19 PM
1

Lmao the responses to this as compared to the “yes woe is you poor victim men” posts is telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 03:44 AM
6

That was basically my case. He was “too busy” for like a year and very very moved on from a time prior to actually him initiating ending the marriage. I filed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 03:33 AM
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I wonder what the correlation between woman initiating divorce and marriage ending because woman constantly gets dumped on by man child husband is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 03:32 AM
-1

Ya totally, women need to be banned from becoming educated and go back to being barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen at 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 03:30 AM
2

Ya totally, that caricature doesn’t really fit the actually sucessful white collar type at all. It’s a weird stereotype made out of the guy who is good at football in every movie about teenagers and Leo’s character from wolf of wall street. Like 1/500,000 men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 03:22 AM
2

Hahah thanks! It’s all the RP fantasy, but in reality, ambitious women can and do get ambitious men all the time. Plenty of power couples in this world, but not everyone wants that dynamic in their personal relationships!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:21 AM
1

Ya I’m sure if you define every relationship as betabux that’s all you see….
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 07:07 PM
7

I think that might be mostly used by stay at home moms trapped in an mlm.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 07:02 PM
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Different people and personalities like different people and personalities. Someone with a strong personality ending up with someone more passive doesn’t seem too out of the ordinary. It’s probably just 2 people finding comparability, in reality. Competent adult sounds about right, and lonely man trigger material because they are very attached to their revenge fantasy’s of her being miserable. Especially if she’s had the audacity to be over 27 or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 07:01 PM
2

I know 2 successful relationships between white men living in SE Asia at the time and locals. Both cases were men who were there working, each met their wife through work and she was educated and not a typical “expat pickup”. Both men are also good looking and sucessful in their fields and wouldn’t have had much of an issue dating back home, this is just who they met. One is back here now in Canada and she’s a stay at home mom. The other owns a resort in Thailand with his wife. Anyone who’s trav…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 06:50 PM
1

No, sorry but your echo chamber is blurring your vision or your definition of “betabyxin” is so broad it’s literally any relationship, no matter what age when or how they met. I work in IT in oil and gas. Very male dominated and almost everyone at every age is in a relationship of some kind, (the young and still out having their fun excluded.) And we don’t make Bay Area booming startup money, just a decent income.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 05:43 PM
11

This is accurate 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 02:59 PM
5

To add to this, there is also the necessity of being career focused in this day and age. If I could just inherit a fortune and support my family that way, sure. That’s not the vast majorities reality. Almost everywhere 2 incomes are needed these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 03:45 AM
2

If you are leering so hard it’s clearly visible on a video and stands out enough to go viral you aren’t behaving like a normal person behaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 03:35 AM
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The tight gym clothes have also been basically all that’s available from most brands for a decade now, so of course that’s what people are wearing. I have some seriously ancient lululemons that aren’t leggings but they haven’t made those since like 2007 😂 A lot of the men I lift with wear leggings too, but we are sport specific so I don’t think that’s the norm in regular gyms.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 03:33 AM
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I don’t think it’s different than most other public situations. If someone is interested in conversation or being hit on they express that. If they are ignoring you and minding their own business, it’s probably best to do the same. I’ve never invited any attention at the gym. The times strangers approached me I just politely asked ended the interaction. Almost everyone is self aware enough to take the subtlety of being turned down politely and just move on. I would say the stereotype of women fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 03:31 AM
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I actually agree with you and am calling out the “women are all medicated and it’s womens fault” and “men are depressed and suicidal and becoming mass shooters and it’s womens fault” bullshit that gets posted here constantly. Not sure why you think I specifically have any pull over people giving any kind of mental health help though. That’s more of a of a cop out than “women should lower their standards so incels don’t shoot up schools”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 05:00 PM
1

I regularly see above average looking dudes openly simping for average-below average looking girls. Like literally every fucking day, and it has started to bother me. Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 06:08 AM
1

If the way other men spend their time bothers you so much it may be time for additional hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 03:15 AM
4

Then make friends. Really and honestly evaluate who’s fault is it if you don’t have social connections.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 11:31 PM
1

That somehow you see normal men not getting into relationships? Go to an office building. The majority of young people are in relationships the majority of 30+ are married and with kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 08:52 PM
2

Ya exactly. Young new to the industry men mostly in relationships, older (like 30+ all the way to retirement age) married and with kids. And I work in IT so this isn’t some modelling agency either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 08:51 PM
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Probably because it’s only “easy mode” if you singularly talk about casual sex. Most logical people can recognize there are other components in life, even those completely hyper focused on casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 08:47 PM
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Options are not the same as good options. You guys have some seriously wild ideas about how women live. High quality men aren’t throwing themselves at us day in and day out. Getting cat called by some construction worker who didn’t even get an actual look at us doesn’t mean we have good dating options.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 08:00 PM
3

I never said anything about RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:58 PM
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Having been a women on those apps, no it doesn’t. The generic copy paste message from every match also implies they didn’t actually even look at the profile they are replying to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:57 PM
1

Ah yes, this explains why only 10% of the population are in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:49 PM
1

It doesn’t really seem that the majority of women want to do this anyway. If they did, they’d be signing up in the numbers men are. Instead they are opting out in greater numbers. The women who already want and have casual sex are there or are having casual sex by meeting people in other ways anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:45 PM
1

The number of women seems to be decreasing year over year, too. So obviously men aren’t connecting with people as often when they are trying to match with what, 1/5 of the user base?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:44 PM
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Sex tourism isn’t a new thing. The men who want to do it already do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:42 PM
7

And how many of those likes came from people who even looked at a single photo of her before swiping? You can’t take the way men use tinder and turn it into a compliment. It’s just not. We already know the likes are completely meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:40 PM
3

It’s also super difficult and expensive to get proper mental health help. Prescriptions are frankly and quick and easy bandaid. Therapy, addictions counseling, and better family and friend groups would do wonders but it’s not so easy to just apply to the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:31 PM
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This is always my thought on both of those talking points. People bring them up as though they are in isolation a problem with women. Maybe what’s more realistic is that everyone needs to be taking their mental health a whole lot more seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:30 PM
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This is the question. There is this constant “women are all medicated” statement as though it’s this terrible plague of antidepressants. Then combine that with the mens rates of untreated depression / high rates of suicide. Maybe everyone needs to actually be taking their mental health more seriously and seek out some actual help.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:28 PM
3

I’m not sure what you mean, I’m not the one saying there is a conspiracy at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:26 PM
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You guys truly need to log off Reddit and go outside. And no, circle jerking a 10+ year old study about online dating doesn’t count as “logging off Reddit”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:26 PM
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I think the implication that there is some major conspiracy against regular men is not going to pick up as a mainstream belief. This is probably helped with work from home moving to a hybrid model so lots of the people who have spent a couple of years isolated will go back into normal society and they will see that their little echo chambers are smaller than they think. You can’t spend time in the real world around normal people and believe that average men have no chance of relationships. There…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 06:13 PM
3

lol yea this isn’t far off
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 06:40 AM
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I mean they kind of are, but it takes the form of tax breaks not single people specific tax increases. But like I was saying, the middle / upper middle class doesn’t get those. Maybe in the future that will change to incentivize kids. (If they want to increase birth rates it would make sense, honestly. For my family 2k a month in daycare sucks but is manageable. At half our income, it would be really tough, and that income level also doesn’t get much in the way of tax breaks.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:59 AM
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Yep. My friend and I were just talking about how she would not have been born had her mom not had access to an abortion post generic abnormalities being found in a previous pregnancy. It will change things for a lot of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:56 AM
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Ya for sure. It’s just funny to me. Funny enough if you want that life and could pull it off at 20, you can pull it off past 30 anyway. I’m way post wall according to these guys are very very happy with my life decisions, which were absolutely not getting locked down by someone twice my age to be a stay at home mom at 22
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:53 AM
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It seems like you are supposed to “grow up” and think purchasing a woman’s attention is…. Less gross? Now that you are their target market?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:35 AM
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Hahaha asking the real questions here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:53 PM
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No I don’t want my friend or partner or whoever to risk themself over some material item I can just replace. I have an idea that it’s more likely someone grabbing a purse in public or whatever is going to have a used needle in their pocket than react with violence but that’s probably based on where I live. Not worth going after the person at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:52 PM
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I don’t think there is one answer to this. Different people are attracted to different things. But I do think if you are putting on an act to attract someone you are going to have a hard time keeping them once they get to know you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:50 PM
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I think this is all content creators of all kinds. I used to follow a lot of fitness stuff but it got this way, and somehow now due to friends I have I think, I’m getting financial gurus showing up on my Facebook video feed…. Very similar themes among all
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:47 PM
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Also how sad is it to consider the definition of a “waste” as years not having a husband? Some Men really would like to go back to a time where we were so dependent on them that we had no choice but to pick what we could get as teenagers and hope he’s at least reasonably nice and able to provide. No wonder so many women are opting out of men all together.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 08:15 PM
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Ya I would expect so. These rules and laws generally do not apply to those who can afford a plane ticket and a 2 week trip to a state where they can acquire an abortion. And that’s frankly not that high a cost in the grand scheme of life… abortion bans are pretty much a low income situation. And that’s not the demographic that’s paying the bulk of the taxes, it’s the lucky lucky and disappearing middle class. Hooray!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 07:09 PM
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Ya it’s probably only second hand embarrassment from others perspective, the more self aware aren’t the ones I’ve ever seen “dating” a much younger girl who is mainly interested in his money. They seemingly don’t notice the regular income men don’t have their magical new “alpha” ability lol. Selective noticing I guess. Sugar type relationships excluded since everyone obviously knows the score there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 07:06 PM
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Then no, it makes no sense to suddenly introduce any additional taxes based on gender. All the taxation breaks men (here at least) have been calling gender tax breaks have more to do with mens lack of contribution to their own children, than to do with their gender. It would be more helpful to take it up with the deadbeat dads of the world than with the government providing breaks so children don’t starve. But as for actual increases, no, that doesn’t make any sense when women also elect not to …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 06:28 PM
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A lot of those men who are chasing 20 year olds are either unsuccessful or pretty blatantly purchasing their time. If that’s not embarrassing for you, then ok, you find different things embarrassing than I do I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 06:13 PM
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Are you suggesting that there is or will be gender specific single people taxes or what, exactly? Because no I don’t see that happening. Single people pay more taxes in a lot of places, lower income people get more tax breaks as do people with kids so when I was in my no kids years paying normal taxes, my husband and I both paid by way of taxation into what subsidies parents (single and not single, mostly lower income though) got. As a higher (middle class really but not low income) earning pare…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 06:10 PM
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I mean picking just the men who chase 20 year olds well into their 40s as the rule for how “men” strategize makes “mens main mating strategies embarrassing”. It can help to not narrow the way you see 50% of the population down to a stereotype
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 05:50 PM
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Ya they conflate initially thinking someone is hot / good looking with wanting to have sex with them. Their view of women isn’t really any woman I’ve knowns view of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 08:09 PM
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Yes, I wouldn’t use the word indifferent, though. More liking him to falling for him. I wouldn’t really spend time with someone I didn’t like so it wouldn’t happen with someone I actually felt indifferent to. the move was from primarily sexual attraction to getting to know one and other to feeling mutual growth of a relationship. I’ve defiantly not seen a person and wanted to have sex with them based on that, though. There needs to be more than just the way someone looks in the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 08:04 PM
1

The obsession with trans people coming into this is so bizarre. I’ve seen it all over the place. Like… why the obsession with such a small number of people in the population
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:08 AM
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Yep there is a reason they schreik and whine about child support in the context of abortion debate. The just want control and power
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:01 AM
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Ya I don’t get the us system, (I guess obviously, I’m not from there) but when the abuse on his side came out my partner and I both kind of expected him to lose since if it was real, I don’t quite get how talking about it was defamation. Their relationship was a shit show but it’s kind of interesting how the conversation has changed on abuse. I think it’s pretty rarely one sided if we are all honest on the other side of it. At least from the conversations and experience I’ve had.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:44 AM
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Ya I think both are toxic gross abusive people who need a lot of therapy and to be single for a long time. I’m guessing none of that will happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:26 PM
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Which is actually 5’11 when men tell it haha
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 08:33 PM
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Ya I think over 6’3 it’s like a defining feature to the point of being annoying. It would be annoying for him for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 08:32 PM
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Oh there are beta chads? I can’t keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 06:53 AM
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Ya. You are writing about wanting to purchase a girlfriend so youlll need money. Continually, I’d guess. As the sugar dating type relationships are completely dependent on payments.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 06:06 AM
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Yes, all the whining about height and facial structure is not helpful to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:05 AM
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If you want to buy a girlfriend, you don’t need to pick any particular profession, just a high paying one. One that has a lot of shift work is probably not going to be the best option.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:43 AM
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When men make no hesitation is declaring they will fuck anyone without any standards whatsoever women get weary and make sure they aren’t that “literally anyone will do” person. So many of you guys think this is a good thing to claim when it’s a red flag you wave all over the place. I generally have found men quite a lot more picky, at least looks wise, in anecdotal findings, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 05:58 PM
2

Yep, looking back objectively as an adult changes your perspective a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 05:53 PM
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When they are second / third hand, sure. But most of us have these not so wild stories that aren’t crazy horror stories. Just kind of gross and make us look back and reflect.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 05:50 PM
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Also related is the “campsite rule” that I think might have originated with Dan Savage. Leave everyone better than you met them and you can hold your head high. In my experience this is why many women look back on relationships they had as teenagers with older men going …wtf, ew. It’s not that there are no young women capable of those relationships, but the type of men who pursue them are… a general type.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 03:43 PM
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Understanding the difference between what you are referring to and being aggressively persistent when someone is uncomfortable and who is repeatedly trying to exit the situation is the key. There isn’t anything creepy about alleviating discomfort or making accommodations for someone’s objections where they are reasonable and real. It’s the “nah baby just trust me” type thing that gets a bad view.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 03:39 PM
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Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:23 PM
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Haha sure. Being the weirdly old guy who’s still invited to the high school parties because he’s buying alcohol for the kids there is something most grow out of by 22 but you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:04 PM
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I’m extroverted but haven’t gone too far to get a guy to sleep with me. I’m not afraid to make a move but it’s rarely been needed. Usually being flirty and making a lot of eye contact and initiating touching him gets the message across. This is always with someone I’m out on a date with already though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 03:57 AM
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I mean, I think at this point it’s common knowledge that the advice they were giving 20+ years ago to just “go to school” isn’t good advice. You need to have a plan. But no, you don’t need a high status job, unless you want a woman who has a high status job to notice you which posters here seem not to want. In real life men with high status jobs are dating women with high status jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 03:49 AM
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Plenty of women don’t want to date someone who doesn’t value all they bring to the table, including education and career. Not caring about these things is only a positive for women who don’t or can’t have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 03:44 AM
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Sure. Date girls who look and act like children and justify however you want, doesn’t make it less pathetic to everyone looking on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 03:40 AM
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Right. I just said all grown up is the perspective I’m talking from. The older men who date 18 year olds are pathetic, whoever pursued who doesn’t matter. Can’t get someone age appropriate and continually jerking themselves off over being hot shit for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 12:36 AM
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Ya I think this set up idea is not quite realistic… I’ve had friends meet other friends and date, because they hit it off and liked one and other. This isn’t due to my or anyone else’s input though, my only role was being friends with both of them. A “set up” seems like some 90s sitcom trope that doesn’t actually happen because it’s weird and awkward in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 04:39 PM
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I think people need to just move on when a relationship ends instead of inventing some additional reason it didn’t work and obsessing over that. In this case she communicated she wasn’t satisfied in the relationship and ended it. That’s a reason people break up. Unless there are other reasons to think it was related to looks then why spiral around and make it about looks? Maybe what she told you was the whole story, maybe she saw you pick your nose and lost all attraction, maybe she just wants t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 04:28 PM
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Um what
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 03:27 PM
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Looking back on that age, myself, I see the older men who pursued me then as pathetic. There were reasons they went for high school aged girls and not women even old enough to hang out with them and their friends at bars and pubs. Even back 10-15 years ago it was pretty common for an 18-20 year old to still be living at her parents house… When you are that age you think you are hot shit for landing someone older. Then when you turn those guys ages you see them for the clinging to their “glory da…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 03:15 PM
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Hahahahhaa that’s such a cute interpretation. Adorable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:20 AM
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Your error is applying actual human behaviour to RP talking points and trying to get to their stance somehow still making sense for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:28 AM
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Lol this isn’t elementary school gym class where some authority figure makes sure everyone gets to play. This must be that millennial entitlement the boomers are so mad amount inflicting on their own children.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:07 AM
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Ya I was going to say, this is a Reddit thing, not a real world thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:03 AM
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The entire premise is incredibly stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:22 AM
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You guys love this fantasy and I have yet to come across a woman who does this. But to humour you, in the case someone makes a guy wait that long in a relationship when she clearly doesn’t have an issue with having sex quickly I’d guess she likes the guy and he’s given her reason to believe he would lose respect for her for sleeping with him too fast. It seems like a massive waste of time to arbitrarily make someone wait for months and then start having sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:05 AM
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Anyone I know who’s dated a stripper had a lot of stories about copious amounts of drugs, usually cocaine. So my impression is that it can attract a lifestyle I wouldn’t want myself or someone I care about involved in. I’m sure it’s not everyone but it seems to be an occupational risk. I went quite a few times when I was younger, it’s fun entertainment. Then where I spent the last 10 years living they didn’t allow lap dances so the payout was this weird show of throwing loonies and toonies at th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:29 PM
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There are a lot of men like this. It’s unfortunate for men who are not as it doesn’t take getting this reaction too many times to make women pretty weary of talking to anyone new
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:20 PM
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I’m approachable and friendly and I don’t make men I’m interested in jump through elaborate hoops, if that’s what you mean. I wouldn’t say I have low standards, certainly I wouldn’t just take whatever I can get. I was always looking for my equal (in career, finances, personality, looks) so that’s the bar to me. I’ve never had any issue getting into a relationship, if anything I’ve had to be careful because men have wanted relationships before I was ready and I didn’t want to mislead.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:16 PM
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That’s a non issue also. Plenty of men have wanted to date me that I wasn’t interested in. I turned them down. The end. There isn’t more to dwell on. Certainly no reason to take to the internet to whine about how delusional they were to think I’d be interested in them. Why be that much of an asshole?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:11 PM
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So the women you don’t want to date also don’t want to date you. Sounds like a non issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 09:47 PM
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It’s also stalkerish and obsessive and frankly creepy. OP is not communicating what he thinks he’s communicating by doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 09:46 PM
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So ignore them. Surely this isn’t the first time you’ve ever had to filter out who you spend time worrying about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 09:44 PM
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I don’t think they are supposed to be substitutes, they are supposed to be precursors. If you are a walking pity party without a lot to offer it’s going to be very difficult to find a romantic relationship. Same with being desperate, it’s just not an appealing way to behave and conduct one’s self.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 07:39 PM
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I mean dude, the OP has a collage of their photos in it. This whole thing is obsessive and weird. You can be aware of something and ignore it when it has no bearing on your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:23 PM
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They just want to find a magical super high sex drive 23 year old virgin who can’t keep her hands off them, somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:47 PM
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They just want to whine about it. They know that squalking about how women need to lower their standards means nothing for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:45 PM
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Why is them complaining an issue though? Who are they talking to and why are those people listening? Do something else with your time if it’s affecting you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:26 PM
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If all “they” do is seethe…. They aren’t the ones that made this post. So… who exactly is spending the time on this topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:25 PM
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This is my question for all of these kinda of posts. Why spend time worrying about the standards of people you don’t even want to date? This does not have any impact on their lives whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:23 PM
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You’ll have to ask the men who concocted and obsess over that fantasy the reason they came up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 02:56 PM
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Exactly, most older men who have a kid or 2 have them with one woman and it’s from a previous relationship or marriage. These single moms who apparently have all the same baby daddy are mainly figments of ppd mens imaginations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:30 AM
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I have seen hot couples or pairs but ya, pretty rarely hot younger men on their own. The whole crowd skews older, though, at least in my city.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:12 AM
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According to men who are obsessed with height.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:10 AM
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By what metric? He looks completely generic, and mass swiped on thousands of people by his own account of it and then couldn’t even keep conversations going. He sounds desperate, not top 15%
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:38 PM
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Yes women are so blessed to be able to easily find some gross unappealing dude who wants to treat her as indistinguishable from a pocket pussy for 10 disappointing mins.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:27 PM
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Lol man, are some of you ever going to be sad about how your revenge fantasy works out….
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:25 PM
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Ah yes, the privilege of having men swipe on us on dating apps without even looking at our photos, which is apparently supposed to be a compliment. When will we learn. 😴
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:24 PM
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Text yea, video no. Work hours. Also i don’t care that much. He looks 10 years older than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:22 PM
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That is only true of women who haven’t learned how men do tinder. No one who has a guy friend to talk about this with would consider their matches a compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:21 PM
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Ya, then they want to abandon her and their children to the street if the relationship doesn’t work out, apparently. They have to go for someone young and nieve for this to seem like anything but a terrible deal
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:20 PM
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You can do it for whatever reason you want but that doesn’t change that we know matching is totally and completely meaningless and that he almost certainly didn’t even see the cover photo of you let alone read a word of the profile. We know it’s got absolutely nothing to do with us and that matches are completely meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:18 PM
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Of course, when there are by mens own account a huge number of men who just swipe right without even looking at profiles, that’s the result. I don’t think anyone who realized this would think matches were anything to brag about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:17 PM
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You should for sure not be good looking in gyms. That’s a big no no.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 09:29 PM
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So you concocted a narrative that an older married woman might be interested in you, it turned out she wasn’t and she let you know that, and now you have further elaborate on your narrative to turn her into a liar? For anyone wondering, this is the “nice guy” behaviour that turns the friendly woman minding her own business but being polite in the gym into the “bitch” the who averts her eyes and quickly walks away when you just want to say hi like a normal human being in a public setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 09:27 PM
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If you fire your generic resume out randomly to every possible position regardless of it being remotely suitable for you or not then ya, you aren’t going to get any additional job offers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:11 PM
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Ya I was curious about his age too. Based on his photos it seems likely he’s trying to find someone quite a bit younger. As hard as men want to push the narritive that they peak over 30, college age women don’t really seem to think this as often as they hope they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:08 PM
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Ya every guy I’ve talked to about this has said the same, the apps are terrible and meeting people in real life is much easier, you actually know what the person looks like, and you can gauge comparability right away. Basically superior on every metric you’d want to evaluate dating someone on, initially.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:03 PM
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Based on almost everyone’s anecdotal experience tinder is tedious useless trash and not good for anyone. Why this needs to be “proven” over and over is beyond me. And really, he read about and liked 8000 people? Sure. That’s why right swipes don’t mean anything to women. Anyone with a guy friend knows how men use these apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:57 PM
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I’m the one that is saying lying by omission is still lying and misleading. If you aren’t lying by omission or lying outright then obviously I’m not talking about you and there is nothing to get defensive about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:47 PM
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Great for them. There are women who do this also. Seeing where things are going is absolutely a reasonable part of dating. Not wanting a relationship and looking for a fuck buddy is also reasonable. Lying about doing one thing while doing another is dishonest behaviour and that’s what I’m saying is lying either outright or by omission. Who is raising all of you that this even needs to be said.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:46 PM
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Hopefully not! I also work with a ton of younger men and while they are great, I couldn’t imagine trying to date anyone that age. I really don’t get how anyone In their 30s can say they have things in common with someone fresh out of university.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:43 PM
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You are posting all over about lying by omission. So ya you aren’t technically speaking lies but if you actually believed there was nothing wrong with lying by omission you wouldn’t need to stretch this far to try to justify it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:03 PM
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Hey I don’t care who sells what. But calling a financial arrangement a relationship seems a little delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:02 PM
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Ya, that’s become clear. Oh well, other people read these things as well!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:52 PM
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Lying by omission. It’s lying. OP has taken what seemed like a reasonable premise and wants to use it to mislead and lie to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:49 PM
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If you are withholding information you aren’t being honest. You know this. Assuming your parents were remotely competent you learned this at age 5. If you have to lie / lie by omission to be able to have sex that should tell you something about yourself. Be better than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:47 PM
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Even if you said early on you don’t want a relationship, you can still make a choice to cut off something with a person who you know has developed feelings for you if you don’t feel the same way. Leading someone on is still mean and there is no reason to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:45 PM
1

I dated someone a few years older than me when I was a teenager and looking back I see him as a guy who was just unable to get someone his own age. I have no idea why else he’d have wanted to date someone he couldn’t even buy a glass of wine at dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:39 PM
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Haha yes it sounds like it was your wi$dom and per$onality that kept her around for years. Buying the affections of someone half your age isn’t new, but it seems believing it’s a real relationship has now become a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:37 PM
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Hah ya I’m sure the younger chick you date because of money will stick around if you no longer have that money. You get what you pay for.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:34 PM
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I can’t think of anyone (normal, not considering outliers and criminals or whatever) worse to date than some 22 year old guy 😂 and I am barely into the cougar years.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:26 PM
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They also want the 20 year younger woman to have no career and just be a stay at home mom… guess why child support and alimony even need to exist? If you pick a partner that puts equal into the family you don’t have to make up for her sacrificing her career to be your mommy maid for years after the fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:19 PM
8

And apparently confusing chatting online with actual relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:16 PM
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By being honest. Just tell her what you are after and what you want and don’t want. If she misinterprets it and you are being honest then you can still stand by your own behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:10 PM
1

No one is saying you need to be a social enigma. This is bare minimum human functioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:05 PM
3

Who cares. You don’t want that person anyway. It seems like focusing on your own life would be better use of your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:04 PM
2

If you didn’t want women there wouldn’t be endless whining about not being about to get women. RPers would just be doing other things with their time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:03 PM
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Because most men aren’t the antisocial sad lonely recluses a place like ppd might have you believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 07:14 PM
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If you have nothing to hide I guess it won’t bother you though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 07:13 PM
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You see women in a way that is very likely showing in your behaviour. That’s likely the source of your issues. Like many others have said, it’s time to log off and go meet actual humans in the real world
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:37 PM
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Just get a paternity test then. But don’t expect your partner to be happy that you are basically accusing her of cheating. Would you be happy if she came up with some elaborate insecurity that you had been cheating and insisted on adding a tracker to your phone or something? I suspect you would not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:34 PM
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Yep but I think it’s the approach that has people “cancelling” anyone. You (anyone) can have whatever standards you want, lots of people do. It’s in weather you are a jerk about it or feel the need to go on about it that people are going to snap back. (really, though? This seems like an internet thing not a situation anyone finds themself in when they interact with humans out in the world.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 03:31 AM
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I’d take the plastic dick any day of the week over a guy who sees me, a human being, as interchangeable with anyone else. It’s not a case that toys are the same / interchangeable with a man, it’s no sex vs sex with someone that disrespects you. Not a tough choice. Don’t confuse people taking issue with you having standards with people taking issue with you being a jerk over those standards. It’s not necessary to announce why you aren’t attracted to someone, believe it or not. If you do this then…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 03:25 AM
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It’s in the OP, I have no idea if you meant to refer to yourself or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 10:07 PM
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I was agreeing with you. Lots of people claim it never happens, because they don’t know it’s happened to huge numbers of the women they know
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 10:06 PM
2

Ya, I can think of a couple of men I know who got DUIs (that their parents bailed them out of, but anyway) but never an actual criminal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 09:52 PM
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Yeah, “it never happens”. Except to a majority of the women you know, but ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 09:49 PM
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The way some of you see sex is almost certainly the exact reason you have such a hard time having it. Willingness to fuck anything with a pulse is a deterrent, not an upside. “No standards” is an insult to anyone the person approaches. Desperation isn’t an attractive quality in a potential partner. Why would any women want to just be “anything with a pulse” to fuck? Plenty of women have very high sex drives but would prefer not to just be the “you’ll do” in this scenario. You don’t have to have …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 09:46 PM
2

Omg Joe Rogans reaction to that comment is still hilarious to think back on
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 09:11 PM
3

Ya fair, that’s more accurate to how I feel actually and I should say continuing education of some kind. I don’t think trades are a downgrade, either
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 07:03 PM
10

As are many others in this thread 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:57 PM
2

Your tapering sex life is probably something to look at your own behaviour as a contributor to as well. Men act like they couldn’t be the one to change in long term relationships and become less intimate, interesting and attractive. Sitting on the couch and being mad she’s not giving you a blowjob after you got done gaming isn’t exactly attractive. Both in the relationship should keep putting in effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:29 PM
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No higher education No ambition Absent parent (had a child and abandoned them) Cheater or overlapping relationships Addict (drugs, alcohol, gaming, gambling) Major consumer debt Id consider a bad partner to be low value eg expects not to share household responsibilities like childcare and cleaning, inconsiderate, cheats
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:16 PM
3

Tinder is garbage. No person should take gamified dating as real life. Go outside and talk to humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:18 PM
3

To hook up with older women, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:30 AM
0

I don’t know why women in their 30s would want a man in his early 20s. I wouldn’t. I prefer someone at the same life stage as me, that goes for either direction in age gap. If you are a women in your late 30s on tinder or another app you get a lot of matches with men who then disclose they are actually 10 years younger than their profile says. So, I’m pretty sure I’m not alone in not wanting to deal with much younger men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:11 AM
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In general, nothing. If he’s really terrible looking with a smoke show of a woman I might in a passing way wonder if it’s money. But that’s really rare to see out in the real world, at least in the cities I’ve lived in.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:09 AM
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When women talk about “terrible taste in men” they are generally talking about his lack of career, the way he treats women, his lack of ambition, his friend group or lack of. I’ve mainly been friends with women my whole life and the most I’ve heard disparaging about a guys appearance from girlfriends was “I don’t get it.” Men seem to evaluate men on the basis that they evaluate women. Looks, and that’s about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:07 AM
1

If you just want someone to have sex with and see nothing beyond that in a relationship then you should just pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:08 PM
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Ya it seems obvious. It’s sad they stay in their echo chamber though, since some probably have a chance to not spiral down the woe is me rabbit hole
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:04 PM
2

Man I’m not much younger but the idea of a workplace affair is so repulsive to me. Even when I was single I couldn’t imagine making my work environment into a potentially uncomfortable weird tense place over sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:57 PM
6

Aren’t the men who think this planning on getting rich and buying a younger woman, anyway? That should solve your apparently issue id think?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:55 PM
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Ya, finding an echo chamber that assures them they are just victims of women and don’t need to do anything but stew in their online communities is surely not helping, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:32 PM
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I work with (and have for 15 years) people ranging from co op student age through to retirement age, and everyone is engineers or computer science people so it’s not like this is some bizarre kind of models everywhere office environment. If anything all these STEM nerds should fit their descriptions better than average. Very normal people all around. Girlfriends, boyfriends, husbands, wives, kids, are very common. I have seen nothing like what is apparently so commonplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:28 PM
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Ya if I find myself single in my 40s I’m not sure how much I’d prioritize looking for a boyfriend. Certainly I wouldn’t be trying to find a much younger one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:28 PM
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The 20something “dating” a 60 year old is probably not in the market for a relationship anyway. She’s an employee. There was never a competition in place for her to date someone her own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:27 PM
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You guys live in the wildest fantasy land. Women being offered money and favours just for existing, but also for some reasons doing all this sex work, most men being desperate and single and unable to even have a conversation with humans let alone get into relationships with them. Where is this place? You should consider moving to some normal city.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:22 PM
1

Time to settle down and log off the internet, little one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:17 PM
0

Im not the least bit hostile. I’m stating that thinking of relationships as this ethical balance where men are being somehow denied a woman by anything other than their own appeal is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 04:34 PM
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You believe that one guy having several girlfriends is denying someone else girlfriends? You know the women in question here are making the decision to be in that situation, right? You guys think of women in the most fucked up ways, then wonder why none want you….
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:34 PM
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I can’t imagine the success rate of relationships like that is any better than the oil sands fly in fly out life, and the failure rate of relationships like that is insanely high. You need to find someone who is basically willing to be a single mom without actually being single, assuming part of the relationship includes having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:55 AM
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Out in the real world, men do not have trouble admitting this. Most men with careers do care what someone they want to date does for a living. I have never in real life come across a man who was ok with let alone looking for an adult dependent to get into a relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:45 AM
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Ya I feel like a lot of these men are going to get into the corporate world and realize certain parts of Reddit are basically an angle male echo chamber and feel a little sad about the way they’ve been conducting their dating lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:42 AM
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Ya… sure to be followed by “why doesn’t any women want to be with me…?”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:37 AM
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Probably because this idea that women are somehow sharing men in some kind of harem is just not reality. The super man that’s being referred to here is probably not really what a lot of women would actually consider a superman. Men here seem to have a weird cartoonish stereotype of a definition of what makes the best version of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:35 AM
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It’s very easy to just avoid men who care about body count. The last time someone asked me I was over 15 years ago so it doesn’t actually come up anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 09:27 PM
2

Huh. I couldn’t deal with someone that insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 09:06 PM
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You know, if out in the world you are getting called a misogynist or NICE guy or abusive on any kind of regular basis, it’s probably not a bad idea to try and objectively look at your behaviour. Outside of fairly niche online communities people are not just throwing these words around for no reason. The idea it’s completely commonplace for women to lash out with random accusations is just not a real life thing, not unprovoked. If you are basing all this off questions posted on Reddit, maybe it’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 08:28 PM
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Ok, but giving them some script to try and memorize is going to make it worse for them, not better. This guy should join toastmasters and try and get a therapist at the very least.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 05:27 PM
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This whole thread is full of general direction and your responses seem to be asking for an exact script. My Suggestion is that anyone asking for this should really really not try to use a script. It’s going to be extremely obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:52 PM
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I don’t think women stay as attached to past relationships as this would require, unless you are confusing creating new standards out of experiences they do not want to replicate which could make them seem more picky? Because usually people I know come out with more clarity on the bad sides / incompatibilities than any kind of fondness or wishing that relationship worked out. I’m sure there are exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:50 PM
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Ya are we supposed to clear out our phones when we get into a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:44 PM
0

Ya why have the in between boyfriends? They can’t be very long term if this other guy is still just waiting in the side lines. He just comes running because she is suddenly single again? Kinda sad but ok, if that’s what you want it do. I have a hard time believing this is happening outside this one video.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:43 PM
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if you come in with some canned script to try and pick up a women, she’s going to recognize exactly what it is and there isn’t going to be that appeal. People need to have a personality to attract others. It’s not about “not getting it” it’s about holding a conversation which isn’t some kind of unique pickup skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:37 PM
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A script or some magic pickup line to get hookups isn’t going to be effective. Trying to use that would probably have the opposite effect, since it would seem scripted and obvious and awkward. Someone appeal for either getting to know them with longer term thoughts or just for a hookup isn’t that different, really. It’s the ability to have an interesting conversation, being flirty and nice. This isn’t the same, replicatible conversation because it includes listening to the person you are talking…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:34 PM
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They whine about it in theory, and then don’t even ask someone if they are on the pill before claiming they “can’t” use condoms so apparently that doesn’t bother a pretty large number 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 02:25 PM
1

Wow you are doing a terrible job of that by taking the time to reply to a week old message.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 02:24 PM
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I can’t have a conversation with a person being this purposefully obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 05:37 AM
1

Didn’t make it out of testing. Google
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 05:36 AM
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I meant this one https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/11/03/500549503/male-birth-control-study-killed-after-men-complain-about-side-effects
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 05:35 AM
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I’m not sure which one you are referring to but I meant this one https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/11/03/500549503/male-birth-control-study-killed-after-men-complain-about-side-effects
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 05:34 AM
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It didn’t. Men didn’t like the same side effects that women have just accepted and deal with though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 12:53 AM
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I’ve had enough conversations about this to think men are actually pretty ok with not having control of their fertility. It’s continually very surprising to me. So I think even if it passes trials, it will change nothing and women will continue to be the ones who deal with birth control. I wouldn’t be surprised if it gets pulled for again causing a pretty similar set of side effects that women deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 12:50 AM
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Yep, trauma and mental illness expose people to things they wouldn’t logically want to expose themselves to. This isn’t a big revelation
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 12:40 AM
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Exactly, what even is this question. News flash, some people, men and women, suck. Other people have terrible taste in partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 12:38 AM
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How is this being seen as some big reveal? Obviously lots of shitty people have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 12:36 AM
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I feel like it’s pretty pointless and a weird show to put on, but I think of it as programming, not as part of his opinion of me. I wouldn’t be with someone who wasn’t kind and considerate to everyone, not just me. That’s not chivalry or special treatment
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 12:31 AM
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Exactly. Anyone could go plug two somewhat equal salaries into a child support calculator and see exactly who is receiving the child support amounts that men here are so upset about. If the kid would be fine without 2 parents the support would be like $200 a month for an absentee father, anyway. More children growing up in poverty isn’t really a hill so many people should be so enthusiastic to die on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 12:29 AM
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Not to mention this “right” to abandon their child is the behaviour of the men who have caused child support to be mandatory, strict, and created the default assumption in the courts that dads are going to bounce and therefore aren’t the important parent. People defending this absolutely make things worse for any man that’s trying to fight an already biased system for their kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 12:21 AM
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Lol the whole thread is about mens “right” to abandon the child, no one is mad about child support being paid on a child that doesn’t get born. That’s not something that exists. It’s the deadbeat dads that created the imbalances and shit show that is the whole family court system and why actual good fathers need to fight so hard for their children. The people thinking they are right in abandoning a kid make things worse for men who aren’t deadbeats in all ways, and should absolutely be ashamed o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 12:17 AM
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My impression is that they are very bad at self evaluation and don’t actually have any idea what they bring (or don’t) to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:48 PM
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Status driven is absolutely tedious to deal with, and generally means he’s good at posturing and lying in my experience. Hard pass on that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:45 PM
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knowing this I have absolutely no idea why men approach sex in the way they do. If I had no birth control options I’d sure have behaved differently. But hey, screeching about child support online is one way to go about taking your reproductive health into your own hands. But go on about your supposed right to abandon your children. You are what you are at that point and all the mental gymnastics in the world doesn’t change the worlds perception of that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:42 PM
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There is also no child support to whine about if there is no child so you could always talk to someone before having sex with them and make sure 1. They are actually on birth control of some kind 2. They are on the same page as you if a pregnancy does occur. And there you go, no child. I’ve had one man ever initiate this conversation, so it’s apparently it’s not that important to too many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:26 PM
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Yea alll those welfare queens living the high life on their $1200 a month checks will definitely pop out more kids for an extra $200 or paid for daycare. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:22 PM
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Ya that’s not even an uncommon month to have a healthy baby at. This story is not at all true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:20 PM
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Ya, maturity differences for sure come into play. I’m around you age and the early 20ish people i work with are at such a different life stage than me. They are going out a lot, planning to travel, in their first years of their career. Many even still live with their parents, or at the least roommates. I’m here with kids, real estate and career progression on my plate. I couldn’t imagine dating anyone who fits their description at this age, though they are great people and absolutely when they s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:15 PM
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Ya for sure. I couldn’t imagine dating anyone who fits the description of the early 20somethings I work with. We have absolutely nothing in common. Some of them are mature and in relationships, but they are planning to travel, they go out, they haven’t bought their first house…. It’s not where someone my age is at, generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:12 PM
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The only difference is that people in favour of this are asking to put a bow on the deadbeat dad concept. It’s the exact same thing. Nothing new here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:52 AM
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If you can’t tell the difference between there being a human child and there not being a human child there really isn’t help for you at this point. Go ahead and just admit to wanting to get a pass for being a deadbeat dad. It’s more honest. And deadbeat dads have existed for a long long time, it isn’t a new concept. Society will continue to look at you the same way though, that’s not likely to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:49 AM
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You are not unique in this stance. It’s been played out here over and over and over. You want to be a deadbeat dad, and somehow not get the stigma. Good luck. Society however will absolutely call you exactly what you are. If you can’t tell the difference between human being existing and no human being existing, there isn’t really help for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:46 AM
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Exactly. It’s more likely to make someone uncomfortable or annoyed to know they need to constantly be navigating weather someone if going to get pissy for “leading them on” or if a conversation is actually just a conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:44 AM
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Oh yay this topic for the 600th time. You want to be deadbeat dads without the stigma, we know. Just get snipped, please. And it is doing what’s right for the child. The difference between actual abortion and this abomination Reddit made up is there is a child in this scenario, one that people in these conversations would like to abandon. It’s an actual human. Like it or not. ETA: k I’m not going to go through all the strawman replies about how “akshully a literal human child existing and being …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:31 AM
5

I mean I’m not anywhere near 21 now. But it probably depends on your location, demographic, ect, as it always has
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:26 AM
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Ya me and my friends were like that. It seems nice to have a guy with money interested in you until you realize what a vastly different life stage 21-31 actually is. There is so little in common, unless maybe both are just looking to settle down immediately. Most 21 year olds are wanting to go out with friends, in my circle were in university, and were defiantly not trying to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 02:06 AM
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Haha I found a chat room called hot tub somehow. At the same time I was also chatting with other kids my age in some clearly for children chat. I always just told everyone my age and the attention I got is very disturbing in hindsight
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 02:00 AM
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Then you can’t read.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:57 PM
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I will always have a pretty strong disgusted reaction to anyone who talks about “getting sex”. It very clearly communicates how they see sex, dating and the opposite gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:56 PM
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And if it was relevant today, would it not have been updated and replicated or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:54 PM
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This is super helpful, I missed the 2009-2018 online dating crazy, so my memories are like 2006ish when you didn’t need to match to get messages and half the people didn’t have photos anyway (and there were no apps.) it makes no sense to try and take trends from then as relevant today. Especially considering it was still considered weird, and not mainstream. Generalizing the behaviour of the majority of now 20 somethings from early adopters who were in their 20s to 40s then doesn’t make any sens…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:54 PM
1

Haha yes he can go buy some womens attention for a bit, then join the ppd men and cry about how unfair it is that women don’t actually like him. Winner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 05:54 PM
1

I don’t know what judgement of other peoples live choices has withe regard to control of their own body autonomy. Are you just mad women get to made decisions about their own bodies while deciding they don’t want men they don’t like? Here’s some news, men also get to decide to spend time with, date, be with people they respect the choices of and like. None of this has any bearing on what a “real man” should or shouldn’t be. That’s a meaningless catch phrase.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 05:41 PM
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Ya teenagers can and will do whatever they want. Ideally in safe and educated ways. That doesn’t change that it’s probably not a bad thing to hold off on having sex until they are adults. You have to be very very very young to look at 15/16 year olds and think they look and behave like anything other than children.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 05:37 PM
0

I’m not the one claiming men can’t get any woman including the ones they don’t want. Anyone who knows humans in real life can tell you that’s not true at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 05:35 PM
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I think you’d be hard pressed to argue that as a blanket statement less people under the age of 19 having sex is a bad thing. People should probably be waiting until they are adults for this. I’d be curious as to what the actual more gradual breakdown for this trend is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 04:42 PM
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Hasn’t this been the claim for as long as social media has existed? I’m old enough to have been around when the internet was newly showing up in peoples houses. Chat rooms were popping up for sexting in the mid 90s. I know this because when a/s/l I as first asked and my answer was 10/f/my location the messages were plentiful and wildly inappropriate. Luckily we didn’t have anywhere near the access that’s now available. Instagram and Facebook actually have far more parameters in place to slow dow…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 04:38 PM
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Yes, men and women both change and mature as they get older. There is lots of evidence that shows your brain doesn’t stop maturing until your mid to late 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 02:24 PM
1

Which explains why 80% of men are all single virgins their entire lives? Except they aren’t. So I guess none of this is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 12:51 PM
1

Based on his own evaluation. Which is obviously inaccurate if he can’t get someone in the league he’s assigned himself to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 12:50 PM
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Then you deserve what you get I guess. Why whine and cry online if you are ok with it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 03:16 AM
2

“How it is” when you live on Reddit and watch YouTube that reaffirms all your preconceptions. Enjoy the very depressing fantasy I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 03:15 AM
0

That’s the fantasy around here. Pathetic little boys whining about how no one wants them while ensuring no one ever will.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 03:14 AM
1

They get what they deserve then. If you set your standards at literally any shit show, what do you think you’ll end up with?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 09:48 PM
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Exactly. It shouldn’t be an issue to them, they should not be upset that they don’t meet the standard of someone they wouldn’t even want to date anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 09:47 PM
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And who cares? Since they are losers you don’t want to date them, right? Why are so many people wasting time being upset over the standards of people they want nothing to do with anyway? What a pointless use of energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 09:46 PM
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Unless you want games to be the prescience set in your relationship, they did you a favour. I don’t know why anyone would sign up for that during the “best behaviour” phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 09:11 PM
1

Hm but it somehow matters more how red pill describes itself than how the rest of the world sees you guys? Sorry, can’t just claim you are authority on both.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 03:41 PM
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Ya it’s a shitty situation but I can’t see most people walking away from a kid they raised for years… it’s not the kids fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 05:47 AM
0

For lots of people yes. It’s good to understand if this applies to you before having casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 05:43 AM
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Blue pill always described itself as basically a parody of the red pill. Which I’m pretty sure it still is? Black pill seems to take itself as seriously as red pill so I guess it can’t be the new blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 05:35 AM
1

I think you replied to the wrong comment here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 06:52 PM
1

Not remotely.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 06:51 PM
1

And what change is expected to occur from all the on whining about this on Reddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 06:51 PM
1

What help do you think anyone is giving us?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 06:50 PM
2

I’m pretty sure they don’t see humans at all outside of YouTube videos.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 06:49 PM
4

Ok? So your relationship parameters include monogamy and you and your partner are happy with that. Congratulations on being an adult relationship where you decide what your relationship includes and doesn’t include and then respect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 04:03 PM
1

I think the parameters of their relationship are between them and their partner. If i were doing that my partner would probably be uncomfortable and therefore I’d not do it out of respect for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 04:01 PM
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It’s just more fishing for comments that say women having sex are damaged and / or sex with their buddy chad makes women bitter or something along those lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 12:55 PM
1

Feeeling it’s important than a man is able to support his family doesn’t mean he needs to earn more (unless this means support the other adult in the family as well? Which, sure, good luck at this point in the timeline).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:51 AM
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If by criticism of women you mean whining that women won’t have sex with you and “I’m an 8 that can’t even get a date with a 6!”, ya, you’re going to get people rolling their eyes and assuming you are just bitter and out of touch with reality. Actual criticisms that aren’t just “women’s standards are out of control” actually do generate conversation. When it just turns into a circle jerk though, ya, it usually gets shut down.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:20 AM
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I’m not really attractive, just normal looking. I don’t have feminine features, or a feminine body. I’ve always done fine in dating, casual things, short and longer relationships. My partner now is pretty much what the men here think is a chad. The biggest draw back I think is that the bad kind of attention seems more prevalent than it seems to be with objectively beautiful friends. Like fielding inappropriate work come ons, for example. The men who would be looking for looks only and nothing el…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:07 AM
1

I’ve been married for a considerable amount of time, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:59 AM
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Hahaha oh they yell here, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:59 AM
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I said absolutely nothing about looking down on anyone who can’t find someone to have sex with, since I think that’s what you are trying to say here. Try looking at people as more than sources for you to “get sex” and you’ll have better experiences in life across the board.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:57 AM
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Literal oppression
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 10:34 PM
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Haha yes, not sure I’d be so proud of that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 10:33 PM
1

There is nothing uncomfortable or a new learning that some men think about sex and women in the ways described here actually. We know this from a very young age.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 07:06 PM
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I can tell this was supposed to sound deep but it comes across as quite hilarious and not based on any kind of actual experience with the human species.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 07:05 PM
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If only there were other ways of communicating than those 2 options.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 07:04 PM
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Lmao ya I have no idea what it’s like to be a single women between the ages of 18 and 30 😂 I’ll have to get myself sorted out with some YouTube videos on the topic
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 07:04 PM
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The grievances where men are complaining that they can’t “get sex” do tend to be dismissed, but I’m not sure why anyone would expect otherwise? The way it’s phrased is essentially a statement that the poster is essentially looking for any warm hole to stick their dick into and they want sympathy that women don’t care enough to come running to be that warm hole. If you see women as just empty shells without value outside of sex (as in all the posts about not caring about anything beyond looks and…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 06:00 PM
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They are communicating they never learned to communicate and believe that icing someone out puts them in a power position. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:55 PM
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Passive aggressive behaviour is awful in all forms. In my experience icing me out is a sure way to cause 100% reduction in interest/feelings. It’s not a power move in anyway, its an expression of someone who never learned to communicate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:53 PM
1

“Giving” sex to anyone is on online statement made by men who don’t seem to actually have sex or even engage with women. It’s a pretty good tell that someone entire experience with the opposite sex is hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:52 PM
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The misinterpretation is that they are removed from your specific dating pool. If a fuck buddy takes them out, they were never in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:50 PM
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An app. And yep other women want him and it makes me jealous but I like the feeling. He doesn’t make me jealous on purpose or anything weird like that. And I know he wouldn’t cheat on me. Other women don’t want him because he’s better than me though, his merits and attractiveness have nothing to do with me. He’s his own person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 02:28 PM
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Only to you, maybe. If someone in that position is telling you that, she’s again either an idiot or just making an excuse to try and let you down easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 02:21 PM
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You believe this because of what you’ve read online, not because of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 02:20 PM
1

It seems to generate anger and resentment toward both men and women among the men who think he’s real….
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 06:16 AM
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I pick the cats and singledom. The guy who managed 300k worth of welfare fraud to put toward a Lambo should write a book or something. That’s Frank Gallagher level.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:29 AM
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Frankly if you find a women who meets up with a guy once a week or every 2 weeks for sex, and somehow thinks she’s in a relationship with that guy, she’s an idiot and you are much better off removing her as a relationship prospect anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:18 AM
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Ya I lived in a place like that for a while. Lots of churches, lots of small town mentality
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:09 AM
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So… a vanishingly small percentage of the population. Hardly a group to be basing anything in your life on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:51 PM
2

And there you have the definition! I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:49 PM
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In my circles the average man has an education, a professional job, a car, doesn’t have roommates, has hobbies and friends. Someone who doesn’t have those things isn’t going to register as “average” when that’s your circle. the vast majority of people in the real working functioning world aren’t living on love island or living in a trailer park. So if you shift the low value / high value conversation to normal people and exclude the cartoonish outliers people love to cite so much, you have peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:18 PM
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What is loaded money? At least 500k a year? I’d wager it’s not a large enough population of men to worry so much about.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:10 PM
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I think some women who can be perceived as taken are just unavailable because they don’t want to date anyone. So that creates the imbalance. Despite the claims that everyone’s favourite imaginary nemesis chad has endless women to fuck, and is lying about it to make 8 different women think he’s in a relationship with them, I don’t think anyone who has a guy they sleep with once every week or couple of weeks would actually consider herself in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:07 PM
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If you don’t want your girlfriend using Instagram or whatever, have that conversation. But it should probably be better communicated than this post is because it seems like this post is just taking a random stab at a thing the poster doesn’t like in response to something that a lot of women don’t like without actually making any points about either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 03:58 PM
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Often it comes down to some variation of “other people need to change.” If other people changing is the way to happiness, you’ve lost for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 05:50 AM
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No, I need some kind of interaction. From texting, though, I’ll admit yes to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:30 AM
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Oh I meant the person I was replying to. It’s a piece of equipment I’ve come across recently
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:59 AM
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I’m trying to suggest that the person you replied to might think housewives are / have been the norm if they grew up in a little religious community.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:56 AM
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I think in general the conversations can’t go anywhere because they hinge on “women should change and date me / have sex with me” vs “men should change if they want me to date/have sex with them.” When only one side actually cares if they are getting these dates/sex “changing” to whatever they are being asked to change to is going to make them less happy. And why would anyone sign up for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:55 AM
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Ya absolutely. You don’t need to be friends with anyone, for whatever reason you feel. This one is very reasonable. If you have feelings for them, the friendship is always going to be on kind of weird grounds anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 09:40 PM
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Me me guess, the same thousands of years the bible says the earth has existed for 😝
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 09:01 PM
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Yes gold diggers have always existed. I’m refuting the claim that there is attraction and that this is some kind of pickup not an arrangement. It’s the very very rare outlier that is actually attraction in this setup.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 12:48 AM
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No doubt, all these threats of no longer getting constant favours or protection from men…. So life remains exactly the same then? What are these favours exactly that I’ve been missing out on?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 09:57 PM
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Why would someone want to have sex with a person who wasn’t enthusiastic about it anyway? Seems unenjoyable at best, probably boring and likely no one cums anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 09:56 PM
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Ya many times. I think unless it’s your own business you are being naieve to live and die by the career you are in. Stick around for a round or 2 of layoffs and see how irreplaceable anyone ever is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 09:51 PM
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I mean 2 seconds of googling show it’s not that common to fight about things like custody in the US which is where most of Reddit is based. In the cases there is a fight and in the very rare cases there is alimony, ya it’s for sure slanted. But acting like every family is dealing with years in court and parental alienation is a misrepresentation. My partner has been through hell so it’s not like I’m unsympathetic but a battle isn’t and shouldn’t be considered the norm. People need to choose part…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 09:12 PM
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This is what many here don’t seem to get, their high income is great when it’s a single person just travelling and going out for nice dinners. With a family though, a single income of $200,000 isn’t the high life most places.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 08:27 PM
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I think based on your username we might do similar work, or at least in similar industries. I agree that if you lead with your wallet you are attracting someone who wants your wallet. Unless that’s the long term plan it makes no sense to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 07:22 PM
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Ya it seems to go very opposite ways, either people grow together and their relationship is fantastic or they grow apart / one grows and the other doesn’t. For people who met in university, at least. I dunno if they meet young but not through something common like school.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 07:11 PM
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Kind of. Lots of those are part of why I got divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 07:07 PM
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If I couldn’t get better than him, he’s who is in my league. You can’t expect to just whine about it until other people decide they want to be with you. That’s not how life works. Personally, I’d just be single but I’m fine on my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 07:03 PM
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Lol Asia is always given as the fallback for the desperate men. I wonder how much they would actually like the dynamics they romanticize.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 06:43 PM
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Ok. My anecdotes are opposite of yours and therefore right then based on your take that personal stories are reality. I know plenty of well functioning coparenting arrangements that have no drama or fighting. The number of arrangements that settle outside court far surpass the ones that include fighting. Don’t get involved with crazy women if you don’t want to have to deal with crazy women. This isn’t that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 06:42 PM
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I don’t know why you care what an obese single mom wants anyway if you arent going to date her. That’s like me complaining an obese uneducated guy working at Safeway wants to date someone like me. He can want whatever he wants. It has no impact at all on my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 06:32 PM
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Well I will speak for myself and say I do care if my man is fat or not. And I do care if he cares about my career or not. Why would I date someone completely out of synch with things I value? And why would I expect to bring something to a relationship that isn’t reciprocated? Many people think like this. I don’t know what lawyers you know that date McDonald’s employees. I’ve always been around educated and generally well off people. Almost everyone dates within this socioeconomic class when they…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 06:27 PM
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This seems to be the constant complaint: if you can’t get someone “in your league” then it seems likely you “league” isn’t what you’ve defined it as. Why don’t you lose weight if that’s your standard? If I had no job or made like $20 an hour, but expected a man to have a career and be a professional I’d be in the wrong in my opinion. If your standards are looks based shouldn’t you bring the same to table?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 04:08 PM
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Haha ya these people live in fantasy land.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 02:29 PM
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How does that make them in his league? They’ve chosen no one over him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 02:27 PM
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Obviously the men who harass women and see no issue with it will answer yes to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 02:26 PM
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Lol same. Any 30+ reasonably attractive women has been in pretty close to this scenario. It’s pure fantasy unless he’s leading with throwing around money, which what self respecting 50 year old professional is doing, exactly? None I’ve seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 01:14 AM
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When I was 25 this conversation would never have happened because the 50 year old chatting up 25 year olds at a bar is equally pathetic, weather he’s a surgeon or a construction worker. The 50 year old is buying the affections of younger women through online dating not by organic meets
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 01:12 AM
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Believing this is based on attraction is pure delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 09:47 PM
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I have the opposite experience. Divorced parents and a great relationship with both. 25 years later they still talk / text about relevant stuff regarding me and my siblings. No fights over us, real estate, businesses they ran together, or other material items. You can choose people well and even if the relationship doesn’t work out, have a good coparenting relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:35 AM
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But you don’t have to have 20 million in the bank to wear clothes that fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 05:20 PM
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Ya it would probably have to be a person who has/wants that status and attention who finds that attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 05:20 PM
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And they will teach you for only $9.99 a month! Join now!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 05:19 PM
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The people you are referring to are such a small demographic it doesn’t make sense to use them as any kind of standard. How often are you actually coming across a woman who is running in high net worth mens social circles and dating them? Unless you are one of those people also, picking between you and him isn’t on her radar at all. So why try and use them as some kind of standard. Who cares if the models Leonardo dicaprio dates are actually attracted to him? Some rich guy trying to date models …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 05:15 PM
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Ya I have some friends still from high school, but we mostly spread out and then ended up in the same city again later and reconnected. I was more meaning making new friends as you get older since it’s not as easy as college years
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 03:26 AM
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Yep, cue all the panic over somehow owing six figures a year in alimony to someone when they make $80,000 a year. Or over losing “half their house” to the women who paid for the half she walked away with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 09:46 PM
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The idea of referring to the children of a billionaire as gold diggers is hilarious. Unless they’ve been disinherited or something, they should probably be the ones securing their wealth with a prenup
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 09:39 PM
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I think some men who believe this are stuck in their parents generation or truly believe themselves to be in the Temporarily Embarrassed Millionaire category. I was accused of being a gold digger…. By someone who I made around the same money as who had way less career prospects than me. Like, if I wanted money I’d aim a little higher, wouldn’t i? It’s pretty ridiculous. For those that actually make good money, wealthy people tend to be in wealthy peoples social circles, so someone dating someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 09:37 PM
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It probably depends how fashionable you want to be. I think for things like jeans the fits are way more specific for womens clothes. As a work from home corporate cog I’ve been just weather lululemon leggings and some kind of reasonable enough looking top for the last 2 years so that’s pretty simple. But in normal times like going to a the office you usually feel like you need a lot more variety of clothes than what men seem to wear.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 06:58 PM
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Not really, why would they? Late 30s is a pretty settled time, there isn’t a lot of flighty people in my circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 05:52 PM
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Hahaha right.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 02:12 PM
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That’s not my experience with men who have children at all. My particular experience skews at least undergrad education level and in a professional career, though. I have been propositioned by the 40 something “happily” married child free type on more than one occasion though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 06:22 AM
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Yep, it sounds like a front to manipulate someone into sex. Which it is, so fair enough. That some men can pull that off successfully doesn’t make it less transparent when the men who try to copy them attempt it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 05:21 AM
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I can’t tell if you are trolling or what, but google loveboming if you are being serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 05:20 AM
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Haha no is mid 20s old now?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 01:54 AM
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k but you know exactly what my point is and exactly why you aren’t having success picking up gold diggers in the way you’d hoped.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 01:52 AM
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They were growing up. Like I was. I was in school, they were in school, we were all partying and having fun. No one was settling down in that life stage. I probably shouldn’t have phrased it that way but it was just immaturity and life phase stuff, but it does make a person not a good partner / long term prospect. I’m sure the men I was around then are good people now. They seem happy enough on social media. I don’t really think a person can be considered a fully formed adult until they are in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 12:04 AM
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Haha yep, that’s the general feedback I’ve gotten
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 11:11 PM
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Haha well not really from a biological standpoint. Though I guess both would be labelled a biohazard if we are looking at it from a medical perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 11:03 PM
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Quality men? Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 11:02 PM
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Ouch!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 10:24 PM
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Hate to crush your dreams 🤷‍♀️ if anything attention increased and the quality of the men interested in my was very improved.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 10:23 PM
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Ya it usually progresses from acquaintances or friends of acquaintances to friends over time. I’m
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 10:22 PM
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Well it’s a very different substance. And one is waste. So it stands to reason the waste one would be off putting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 10:14 PM
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I’m still a millennial
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 10:12 PM
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Haha well, if that’s why you got into it, you probably already know that they women who see status in driving expect to be picked up in an aventador not a miata.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 10:12 PM
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Ya, models tend to all be genetic outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 09:40 PM
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Does this come up a lot as an either / or? Most guys say they have a very hard time peeing with a hard on
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 09:38 PM
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Lol not a guy but I’ve never come across one who literally meant sit down. You’ve both got to still move around easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 09:36 PM
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I don’t think “most women don’t even care about race cars” would shock really anyone to learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 09:33 PM
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Poor guy, does he know you posted this invite to roast him?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 09:27 PM
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Not single. But I’m old by Reddit standards, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 09:25 PM
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This isn’t the case at all
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 09:25 PM
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Oh really! My team mates (My coach is a weightlifting and powerlifting coach) have become some of my closest friends. We all compete in different weight classes / sports which is a nice feature as well. I met some through CrossFit initially though and we moved to weightlifting together. I guess just being supportive and friendly and honestly initially just going for food after lifting together is how we became friends. My coach is only at the gym certain hours so it’s the same groups at the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 08:29 PM
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If any of this is meant to be a point you would do well to work on your communication skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 04:38 PM
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Ok. I’ll take the secure and competent men I’ve spent my life surrounded by over whoever your basis for this is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 04:38 PM
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I work in cyber security and same. (The Chinese overlords part not the rest)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 04:19 PM
2

That depends on context I’d think?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 04:18 PM
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Meh. As opposed to the same experience but being charged 50k* for the whole thing? *I live in a place with “free” (it’s not free but we will use the word free) healthcare so i have no idea what a c section costs in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 04:17 PM
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Out in the real world this seems to be what most men want and appreciate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 04:10 PM
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Why would they not be? Do most men have so little to offer that they need to lean on their finances like it’s still the 50s?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 04:09 PM
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Maybe men who only have money to offer want this. I can’t agree that most men aspire to be financial abuses though. That isn’t what I see in the real world at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 04:09 PM
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Ya… and you absolutely don’t have to date within those dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 04:05 PM
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So many of these posts come down to “women suck because they don’t want to be around people who make them uncomfortable”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 03:53 PM
2

Hitting one someone not interested in your is absolutely shitty behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 03:50 PM
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Oh no
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 04:19 AM
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What. You are basically claiming that women should hang around shitty men because maybe if they do those men would stop being shitty. Why is anyone going to do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 04:16 AM
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Common interests, hobbies (for me CrossFit/weightlifting but I know people who took up triathlon, or art and made friends there), even work sometimes. I’ve moved many times in my adult life and I’ve made very good new friends in my late 30s. It’s possible even as a not overly extroverted and social person, you need to put in effort though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 04:13 AM
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I’m like that too. I don’t need people as in “anyone will do” in my life but I need and love my friends and family dearly. And it’s not a defined since childhood group, you can absolutely add new close friends as an adult despite what some say, it’s just not as simple as the proximity something like college allows for.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 04:08 AM
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Does this mean the end of men whining about how they can’t get a woman that’s equal to them? Time to close this sub down.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:31 PM
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Lol so your source is that your ex girlfriend dated someone you think it hotter than you after you broke up? Really might want to rethink basing your perception of reality on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:17 PM
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If you polled 1000 guys in certain subreddits you’d get “most men think women should return to being male property”. Some online poll doesn’t mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:16 PM
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🙄 this exchange is a good example of why the type of person who would use the word “sapiosexual” is tedious. It’s a mark of trying to use vocabulary in place of actual intelligence, and gets a no thanks from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 08:15 PM
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The level of desperation and lack of understanding of how humans and the world work in this op is telling. Like no woman is “taking revenge” on all men by swiping left on some guy who didn’t catch her eye.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 07:56 PM
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Ya this is a wild claim. No one is thinking of men and dating that much. Certainly not holding resentment outside of some vocal outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 07:51 PM
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I’m not sure what meme you mean, but sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 04:48 PM
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No that’s why those that are hide behind internet anonymity
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 03:51 PM
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No, I’ve got a life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 03:50 PM
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I can’t picture any man I’d date who would admit to hanging on to some ex girlfriends old sex toy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 12:23 PM
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I’m not sure why I wouldn’t just buy my own sex toy if I wanted it. This conversation wouldn’t happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 11:57 AM
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Exactly, if women being in a position to choose a good partner to be with (based on her own criteria) is so catastrophic for men, the problem isn’t that women are now in a position to choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 05:41 AM
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This whole statement makes it sound like you know maybe 2 women tops and get the rest of your information on women from fantasy land. Go work in the corporate world for a year or so and you’ll see women doing more than what Reddit makes you think are lady jobs. The two women you’ve met or heard of in real life who are somehow still in university at 28 are nowhere near the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 05:35 AM
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Vocabulary is great. Using cliched buzzwords is basically the aged up version of right clicking and selecting bigger words from the thesaurus to try and make an essay sound more intelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 05:03 AM
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Yep to intelligence, but if he were to actually use the word sapiosexual the answer changes to no.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 12:01 AM
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Exactly. Being angry that others don’t see you as you see yourself is a recipe for just being miserable. It’s not going to make anyone suddenly agree with a self-definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 05:00 PM
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Nope. No one has an obligation to do anything, and no one is owed anything from someone they don’t know.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 03:12 PM
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Youd have to ask a women who has had sex she regretted. Different people feel different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 03:10 PM
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What first dates? I haven’t mentioned any dates. People party and do things when they are on substances they wouldn’t do otherwise and are unhappy with after the fact. Then they grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 02:36 PM
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K. Except the claim is that it’s done in a manipulation tactic (which is not what I agree with) and then whining about fairness folllws which women are somehow supposed to care about
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 02:03 PM
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And is it somehow not embarrassing to endlessly bitch and whine about not being about to get the time of day from these apparently unworthy women?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 05:16 AM
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This thread has me wondering what else FDS got right…. Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 05:01 AM
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Of a teenager? I guess maybe if she was doing something remarkable. I think most teenagers are probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 04:09 AM
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The 1% being close family friends, family, ect. There really isn’t any reason that makes a grown man following a teenager make sense and not be creepy outside of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 02:00 AM
2

Ya not sure what the point of that or an OLD profile to look for friends even is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 11:12 PM
2

This is a unique and never before heard perspective. Congratulations for being so brave. Don’t hire one then.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:29 PM
2

Ya every guy does this. That’s why whining that women get more matches on tinder is a dumb argument when talking about dating options.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:28 PM
1

It depends how you define older, surely? The people who claim 45 year olds are regularly dating 20 year old women aren’t living in most peoples reality. A 2-4 year age difference isn’t weird though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 08:34 PM
1

If you have a few guy friends who’ve used tinder, ect, ask them how discerning they are on their swiping. They usually just literally swipe on every profile until there is a match. Then they look at the photos. Maybe read the profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:21 PM
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Over lying and deceiving to just get laid? Ya, hire someone. It would also be a more “you” centred experience, since she’s hired and not under the impression you like and care about her. Hopefully someone doing this is a decent enough person to show the person they hire respect as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:16 PM
4

Which women are saying this? Women who don’t want casual sex wouldn’t think this is a good quality at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:11 PM
5

Lmao it’s got to be almost as useful as the “describe in specific detail the exact face of an attractive man” threads.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:08 PM
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And the 40 year old now “alpha” gaming nerd will crawl out of their basements to the delight of hot 22 year old women everywhere. Everyone will cheer. In the distance, fireworks and t shirt cannons.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 06:56 PM
10

Men who can’t get women are unhappy and therefor women should change / be forced to be paired off. Same old thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 04:40 PM
4

Well ya. It could just be understood as lack of desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 04:39 PM
3

Ya that’s true for me as well. When someone is a no it is pretty immediately obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 03:12 PM
2

Depends on the person but generally if there is initial attraction based on the way he looks there is a consideration there. Interacting in person makes the actual difference, and the context like is this this date, is this a new person I meet in some social location or whatever other way we’ve met, and most importantly do I feel the flirtation and interest. The timeline isn’t the same for every person. I’ve never decided within .5 seconds though. Just the way he looks isn’t enough information f…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 03:11 PM
1

For sex, ya. Dating? Nah. But that’s me I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 12:59 PM
3

😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 12:58 PM
2

I don’t know why they would want a woman like that anyway. I wouldn’t date the guy who is the life of the party. That guy is exhausting. He should date someone like him and who wants that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 12:41 AM
1

I think the views here often come from people who are only familiar with assigning traits to video game characters and not familiar with actual humans. Because ya, there isn’t some kind of point at which you get full and can’t have any more traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 12:37 AM
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Lol what. Now your virgin wife getting cancer and dying before you is what, branch swinging? Somehow?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:37 PM
1

This seems like a very real story that would definitely result in the guys still being friends 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:29 PM
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No doubt, that’s so bizarre. If a friend called me and said she just fucked my boyfriend we wouldn’t still be friends after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:26 PM
1

Do you actually? I never once have. And I’m old by ppd standards
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:15 PM
2

The only context I’ve known this to happen in was where someone slept with men quickly because of drugs / alcohol and matured out of that phase and went back to only wanting to have sex in relationships. In that case, I think it’s a matter of regretting past decisions they see / saw as bad decisions. I’ve never heard of women doing this as some kind of tactic like it’s described here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:12 PM
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Your “friend” in this for sure real story should break up with the person he is incompatible with. You should break up over incompatibility over sex or whatever other incompatibility is deemed a deal breaker in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 04:15 PM
1

Haha I guess you should be jumping in with this kind of “actually men are as shitty as many women suspect” information everywhere that they try and defend themselves against this kind of stereotype
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 04:09 PM
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I mean based on this and other comments all over this thread, you specifically clearly have issues that don’t warrant more comments from me but I feel some obligation to note that consent prior to BDSM is important as other people read these comments. Going straight to assault is a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 01:28 AM
5

This person doesn’t strike me as ever having even met a women before, let alone had sex with one by faking a good personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 01:19 AM
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You’ll want to talk to someone about it before choking them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 01:17 AM
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Using random buzzwords doesn’t make any of this a intelligent seeming. I don’t know anything about you other than that you thinking lying and deceiving for sex is totally fine and normal. So ya, based on that alone, I imagine there isn’t much that’s fundamentally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 01:14 AM
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Ah yes, the ever common form of abuse that is honesty and considering other peoples feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 12:38 AM
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There is always a choice to be a good person instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 12:16 AM
5

Nope. It’s more likely that if someone picks out a partner based only on looks their personality conflicts will end it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 11:34 PM
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Ah. So despite the title of the post this whole thing is just more about lying to have sex. Good luck with faking whatever magical personality is required for this I guess 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 11:20 PM
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This whole claim hinges on a particular personality type that isn’t actually specified so I don’t think anyone can engage in this conversation. All women can’t possibly all like the same personality type though. For example some people like an outgoing life of the party lots of friends always busy kind of person. Another person would find that guy complete exhausting and not want to be around them. But ya, obviously don’t fake your personality to get a girlfriend. How long can anyone realistical…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 11:14 PM
5

No kidding, everyone else needs to change because everyone else doesn’t like what this person has to offer? is this the entitled millennial culture the old folks are complaining about?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 07:44 PM
1

Yep a partner who cares more about their perception of what’s fair in sex based on other peoples sex than your please or enjoyment isn’t worth your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 07:39 PM
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Yep. Find someone sexually compatible with you. It’s not a big deal until it is a big deal and you can’t just bully someone into being the sex partner you want by whining about how they liked sex more with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 05:59 PM
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Some women don’t like sex, some men are the type to expect women to act like porn stars while they do nothing to participate which leads to the women with those men no longer liking sex. Any scenario isn’t hard to avoid though imo by effort and making sure you are with a person who actually enjoys sex and mutual pleasure (if that’s what you want) prior to getting involved with them. If you’ve never experienced either you probably have a good radar for it lol I had to develop mine. Same with the …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 05:56 PM
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The beauty is that’s not always necessary. But for some who’ve been faced with this over and over, I completely get why they just opt out. Though in my experience compromise and forgiveness aren’t bad traits in the relationship realm. It doesn’t mean you NEED to do it but it’s not the instant path to an unhappy relationship that the others are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 04:02 PM
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They don’t want to weed through the trash. That’s what it comes down to. It’s not worth it. Whining about how they have options and you don’t doesn’t change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:59 PM
0

That’s truly nuts. Sorry to anyone in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:57 PM
1

Yeah no doubt. I’m very pro choice but also very much do not think abortion is a good choice for birth control. Wtf with removing options for birth control then taking away the backup plan in a place with basically no safety net for those it will most effect. Holy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:56 PM
0

Wow. The US is wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:55 PM
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I’d go with getting an iud if I were in the US, but I guess for some women it’s another plus if they don’t want kids at all or don’t want to date you long term. I doubt it’s going to be an instant sex guarantee. Abortion will be still accessible to those with financial means, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 05:06 AM
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society doesn’t work if 50% drop out of it no matter what 50% it is. You can divide up on any line you like
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 01:19 AM
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This is kind of what it comes down to. Women know some women suck and avoid them. Men who date those women surely have the same experience and if they reward it, I’m not sure why they expect something other than what they already saw and rewarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 01:14 AM
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I’ve got brothers and we had friends mutually growing up, so I guess so. I don’t really remember needing help to talk to men, they were always just people in my life, so in that sense I guess growing up around them helped. There wasn’t some transition to make or major difference to overcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 01:10 AM
1

It doesn’t take a whole lot of reading here to see where the issue is for many.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 01:05 AM
2

Really? Any stay at home mom I am acquainted with seems to absolutely live on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 12:52 AM
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If women wanted and needed that they would still value it. It’s not 1850 any more though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 12:51 AM
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Haha isn’t it supposed to be a trait of a natural leader to inspire people to follow them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:58 PM
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The men who sit back and whine that their looks are the problem might have to consider that the rest of the things normal humans evaluate potential partners on are still also considerations in picking a partner. So probably nothing really changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:40 PM
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Ok. It’s more like “if a relationship is going to suck, I’m going to skip it”, though? And for some “if I’m just in it for sex he should be hot”. This whole thing is about how women are choosing to be single rather than compromise. They could drop all standards and do the pick literally anyone who will have me thing men here say they do. That’s the less desirable option but I mean keep repeating things out of an echo chamber that’s not giving you results, I guess. It doesn’t seem like thread aft…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:31 PM
1

Desperation is not attractive in anyone. I think this is something many men here seem to miss
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:33 PM
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I guess she would if it bothered her. Is she having trouble and ready to compromise? Then I suppose she’ll change what she’s looking for. Is she happy on her own? Then I imagine she doesn’t feel any need to “take whatever she can get” like so many men here profess they do. Like is often said, being with a partner who is lazy, boring, lacks ambition, doesn’t do anything to help around the house, ect is much worse than being alone. It’s not a hard choice. Women are just in a position to make that …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:32 PM
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Women don’t care or notice this happening so there still isn’t any reason to suddenly date sub par men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 07:21 PM
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Holy shit this is a person I very much hope is already on some kind of watch list.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 07:19 PM
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What. Do you actually believe that there is a single element of dating a man that is so unstable he turns to mass murder that would benefit any woman in dating him? Is the perceived benefit that he’s now stable enough to only murder her instead of a bunch of people? You want women to just sacrifice ourselves for mens benefit. No thanks, we are done doing that, have been for a long time now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 07:15 PM
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Proof of this? Or just more “hurr durr poor oppressed white man” nonsense with no basis in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:55 PM
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If you based your entire perception of reality on Reddit you should probably unplug and try to meet some people out in the real world. There is a lot more going on in the world than what you see here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:54 PM
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If the demographic you are referring to is those with mental illness, then that’s true. They need support and resources. A good start would probably be public funding for this but from what I understand the US is even worse than Canada on this front. On a personal level destigmatizing asking for help would be a good beginning. Instead of “hurrdurr women take ssris” maybe everyone who needs help could be encouraged to ask for it without judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:48 PM
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If you are someone who complains that you have absolutely no standards or only pick women to date based on looks and being young, I don’t know how it can surprise you that you don’t like their personality or get along with them. Almost everything written here is just a very dysfunctional view of interpersonal relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:44 PM
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More “women need to change because men are unhappy”. When it’s been established over and over that women are happier and choosing being on their own over a relationship that doesn’t for what they want or fit their standards there is absolutely no reason to lower those standards or start putting in more effort for men they’ve established they don’t want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:35 PM
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My partner is like this too, he knows everything about me and I know everything about him. The intimacy of really knowing someone and caring about them makes sex way better. It’s not to say that anonymous sex can’t be fun, but it’s not fulfilling. It’s just a recreational activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:23 AM
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Love, connection, someone who cares about them, someone who really knows and understands them, someone they also care about and know and understand. Someone who wants to plan things into the future together, travel together, maybe have a family. You could piece some or all of that together with friends I guess, but having it with an intimate partner is better and more complete feeling as it’s more a creation of family than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:20 AM
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Interesting. I would have expected a different description like bullying or pressure or types of coercion, not physical force.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:15 AM
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I think female to male sexual misconduct is more in the form of coercion and bullying. At least from what I’ve ever heard of. It’s not that it would be impossible but I can’t imagine it’s common to force someone to penetrate physically. I mean women have been well documented in spontaneously orgasming when being raped so to write bodies doing things we really don’t want them to off entirely is not right. But I agree it’s likely pretty rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:09 AM
1

I never mentioned contraception.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:00 AM
2

Does the successful, clean cut, hard working guy actually want to date the women who hangs around / sleeps with the over 30 bad boy losers? That’s definitely a type.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:54 AM
2

Again, outcomes are not definitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 11:15 PM
0

Did you miss the “get into” part? Are you saying don’t have to meet the standard to get in? I’m not in the US but where I am there isn’t a gender based admission requirement difference. If there is there that’s a bit weird but I’ll take your word for it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 11:05 PM
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You are taking the outcome of women desiring them and using it as the definition. That’s not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 11:03 PM
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Yep, that’s the crux of it. Maturing out of that phase is what everyone should do to become a functional adult, and that many don’t do it is not some failing of 20 year old girls for liking the fun party guy. If she stays the party girl through her 30s she’s exactly the same as him, not desirable and washed up. It’s been twisted into 30 year old women suddenly compromising on everything they find desirable - but no, sorry the party guy maturing into a successful business guy would be desirable. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 11:02 PM
1

Lmao still with the affirmative action. I’ll give that maybe you live somewhere that’s happening but that’s not everywhere. But whatever makes you feel better I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 10:12 PM
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I don’t think the majority of women who have trouble finding a partner are saying they can’t get someone if they don’t care who it is. Most women know they could get a man if they just took anyone without discernment. That’s not the dating issue I’ve ever seen women complain about. They also could go on tinder and do what men do and swipe right on literally every profile and at least pick up someone local.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:31 PM
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Yep, cautionary tales at best and homeless or in jail at worst. I live with similar types when I came home from travelling with no plan in place whatsoever so I lived in a weird hostel type thing for a bit. But I was 22, and now can look back and go, wow, thank goodness I’m not that guy. The ones who don’t see it just remain the aged up version of the 25 year old at a high school party for the rest of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:25 PM
2

I don’t think anyone else defines a “bad boy” as a man who has a lot of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:05 PM
2

You guys are so desperate for men to be superior yet don’t do anything to actually become superior. Of course it’s not a meritocracy. I work with a ton of men who got their jobs because daddy got them a co op placement. Some have recently also been extending the same to their daughters, too, there is no denying that aspect. It’s a class thing more than it will ever be a merit thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:01 PM
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Cool, thanks for this. So the 50/50 isn’t quite it yet but the trend is moving so that’s good to see. I do know most of the 20+ year employees are men in these fields and that’s changing quickly, which seems in line with those trends. I’d assume also the male-female ratios likely vary at least a little by location, as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:00 PM
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Yep and to point 2, there are ones who don’t grow out of this and they get to be held up as examples of what not to do with your life. The party girl / bad boy thing isn’t cute past like 25, it effectively means sinking your life at some point. The vast majority who aren’t actually mentally ill realize this and get their shit together.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:16 PM
1

On average there aren’t. The average includes everyone who’s been in their jobs for the past 40 years, though. I’m saying it’s changing. And not because women are getting somehow free rides in, like the comment I replied to said. That is an excuse that every woman who works in a male domain aged field is very familiar with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:00 PM
1

Haha totally. What would we do without our cave man to build us a new cave and fire?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:58 PM
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Yep, people like you will always scape goat and make excuses for men. Some men suck and don’t deserve your defence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:00 PM
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Oh, but women aren’t working or studying in stem thoguh? So what, they are getting hired for these jobs with BAs in philosophy? Enjoy your excuses though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:59 PM
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Have you been living under some rock where women aren’t being encouraged to get into STEM? I work in a STEM field and the co op students and new grad hires are getting pretty 50/50 male to female. It’s changing, with or without the old guards approval.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:46 PM
1

Yep. They love to cite male suicide rates and womens ssri usage as proof of male victimhood as though women seeking mental health resources is a womens weakness while men not seeking mental health resources is womens fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:32 PM
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And where are the men in this equation? How is men abandoning their children a “single mother” problem and not a shitty men problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:27 PM
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They seem to think you can just get welfare for no reason and live some high life off the government. No. The reason it sucks for so many single mothers is that they do all the adult roles in the house completely alone. Work, pay taxes, raise children.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:24 PM
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Looking at the historical context to why women don’t individually need or want men isn’t that helpful in the modern world. These comforts, education, jobs, and communities exist and both men and women contribute to them (read all the threads about women going to university more, our earning men more often, ect). Men benefit from their own and womens contributions. Covering your eyes and pretending they don’t exist doesn’t change that. The more I read here the more it just seems like there are so…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:22 PM
0

It appears to be boys rule, girls drool.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:11 PM
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It’s so bizarre that this is the common opinion here. I work mostly with IT people and engineers and almost all who are over 32ish are married. (Across several companies and for over a decade now)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:29 AM
1

Lol whoa I defiantly read that other post as sarcasm and wild exaggeration. I can’t imagine it would be easy to pull up anything that resembles what your calling out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:16 AM
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This is the same, the things I am open to with my partner are… whatever, because I trust him and our relationship dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 12:15 AM
1

I’ve heard this and I don’t know why someone would do this. Why wouldn’t you want to have the most fun, good sex with the person you plan on continually having sex with? The replies here though kind of indicate that the type of men who think / fear this happens to all guys in marriage don’t really seem to know how to make sex a mutually enjoyable, engaging, two person activity. There is a lot of talk of men being basically the victims of women not “giving them good sex” which… ya it doesn’t surp…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 12:10 AM
1

I think using / withholding sex is a bad idea, it’s manipulative and not going to get a relationship off to a good start. If you aren’t comfortable having sex without knowing you are in the kind of relationship you are comfortable being intimate with someone that’s another story, though. Have sex when you are comfortable and want to, not based on someone’s rules and preconceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 12:08 AM
1

Ya, yikes to that suggestion. The quick fix shortcuts like that are the ones that will fuck you up for a long time. I do know many men who’ve taken test and it seems the least risky, but still shouldn’t be used without blood work monitoring and not all people seem to be able to get that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 11:40 PM
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The height thing, agreed. I dated someone only 2 inches taller than me and he was WAY more bothered than me. Like to the point that me ever wearing heels was an issue for him. It was annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 11:15 PM
1

I don’t think that’s something many people disagree with. You could do it without her knowledge even, if you really wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 09:27 PM
2

Haha I think saying that career women are taking in dry cooks and bums is a pretty wild take on the often stated idea that many career women are comfortable out earning their partners. Unless I miss a lot of posts here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 09:25 PM
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Not to mention the dynamic created by the no education or career, pretty / hot younger woman and older, established man is basically the exact scenario that alimony and child support exist for. So getting so incensed over that and then seeking out the reason it exists is very dumb and short sighted.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 09:21 PM
5

If the women you want to date see you as a meal ticket, stop dating women looking for a meal ticket. I’m sure you make good money. I’m sure that for example, the women that work in your industry also do. Use your super high value awesomeness and date someone on your level. Surely you can do that. And before someone wah wah wahs about how men don’t want women who have careers or education or whatever else, well then don’t complain that the women you are trying to date want a meal ticket. That’s w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 04:02 AM
1

Maybe it would make sense to evaluate and decide your life based on the actual situations and people you encounter instead of on Reddit posts and studies about people with mental illnesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:44 AM
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I don’t understand why someone not religious would consider this. It’s setup for a lifetime of incompatibility. If they really talk about sex as something she’s going to “give” him she probably doesn’t actually like or want sex or he doesn’t actually think of sex as a mutual activity so from everyone’s perspective in this situation, just end it and move on. Everything is pointing to a miserable mess
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:42 AM
1

That’s kinda like scamming welfare imo. More pathetic for someone trying to do it to people than something for the average person to need to worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:37 AM
1

I never said it’s a “killing”. There are very few people making a “killing”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:36 AM
1

Someone who would legally adopt a child and then plan to abandon them is as much of a piece of garbage as someone who would absconding their genetic child. That’s an insane thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 02:56 AM
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No one is trying to baby trap you to get child support based on your $80,000 a year annual salary and your 2012 civic. Settle down. You guys rehash problems of the 1% and claim them as the problems of everyone. Most households are 2 income so child support is pretty minimal. Most people don’t have much for assets or if they do it’s a shared asset due to said 2 income household.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 01:14 AM
2

K. Then break up with your now +50lbs no sex having partner? Not sure what else you want, here. No one but you is deciding to remain in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 10:14 PM
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They don’t go outside, they read red pill circle jerks and then fit all the cases that fall outside their view (the other 60-70% of men who are in relationships or married) into a myriad of excuses that make their circle jerk still true. It would be sad if it wasn’t developing into hatred for women that frankly means they really should just be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:52 PM
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That’s got to be the most out to lunch claim I’ve seen here in a very long time. Of course men say no, all the time they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:22 PM
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A lot of women have been in relationships with men who gave up on putting any effort into the relationship once they were in them. They expect a maid, cook, and therapist but didn’t offer the same, or ignored them and played video games all the time or whatever else. Then people bitch about these relationships because the fall prey to the sunk cost fallacy and think they need to stay in them because they are in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:06 AM
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Yep. I have both a degree and a technical diploma. I couldn’t do my job without the diploma (not even close) and yet the reason I get hired for the jobs / ever got my foot in any door is the degree. It’s operating all screwed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 07:59 PM
1

If people are asking you that you should get better friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 07:56 PM
5

Trades really need to stop being considered “lesser” than other career options. You can make good money, it’s generally reliable work, you don’t come out with a bunch of debt (at least not where I live). And yet it’s not seen as as good as a university education. It bothers me so much that this is still the perception.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 04:58 AM
2

Enjoy your excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 10:53 PM
1

Not hard. I made some choices when I was younger that I wouldn’t now, but that’s part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 10:37 PM
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Lmao I am well aware that the fittit nerds use all of this to excuse lack of effort but the real world humans who see you outside do not care about these things. It’s a massive waste of time and energy to worry about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 10:34 PM
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It’s hard for them to understand why the world won’t just let them be the deadbeat dads they strive to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 10:23 PM
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Any reasonable person would support normalizing deadbeat dads and children living in poverty even more than it already is?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 10:18 PM
2

Because it’s always the best interest of the child that matters. Is there a human child? No it’s not born: Then there is just one (woman’s) body that she has control over and gets to make decisions about Yes there is a human child: it’s the two people who used their genetic material to create it that are responsible for it. No one is paying child support on a fetus. The best interest of the living human child is the consideration. This isn’t the rocket surgery some here would like it to be. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 10:05 PM
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It’s almost like the red pill scientific method leaves off the things that actually set someone apart 😂 but hey, if stressing over muscle insertions that no one outside the bodybuilding world would have any knowledge of makes them feel better, I guess at least they have that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 09:57 PM
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I was around a lot of these kinds of men, particularly when I was younger, and I have never had interest in this kind of a transactional, for profit relationship. The guy who wants gold diggers is more than welcome to them, imo, which is really at the bottom of “she should be content with my money”. For me, I do care about sex, I do care about equality, and I’m not exchanging my body for items/ material things. I can make my own money and buy my own house and vacations.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 06:12 PM
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Yep. It’s like ok man, I’m sure this will last past the point when she realizes you are the exact guy she didn’t want who was her age trying to date her. And now you’ve set the relationship up so she’s dependent on you and has no resources or career. Enjoy paying alimony. That’s literally why it exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 06:04 PM
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Ya then people end up stuck in a relationship they feel they need to “save” and somehow get back to the honeymoon phase of. It can’t really be brought back to that…. The over reaction is “women make dead bedrooms” which I don’t think is true either. If everyone stops caring and stops putting in effort, of course the sexual desire goes down. Then blame each other for it makes it way worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 06:01 PM
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I’ve had this conversation with my partner. I think the infatuation, stars in your eyes, love at first sight, almost frantic phase is not love, and so many people confuse it with love. It’s lust, honeymoon phase, and probably something to be very aware of and not trust since it makes you blind to a myriad of red flags and reasons to stay away from that relationship. To me love is the feeling of family and caring and respect that grows with getting to know someone. It is the safety of having that…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 09:57 PM
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The men here who actually plan on using their money to get a younger woman seemingly don’t see themselves in the way op is describing, so I agree, they seem to be happy to do it and not really realize they fit the exact description of the person they are laughing at.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 05:06 PM
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I compete in a barbell sport, and I’m muscular as you’d expect to do that. I’m also tall and lanky so it doesn’t quite show in clothes, I just look “normal” to the average person. Generally if someone sees my arms they think I’m a bodybuilder but generally people don’t actually know what a bodybuilder looks like so I’m not sure that’s indicative haha I don’t do this to try and be a fitchick, I’m over that at this stage in my life. It’s just my hobby / friend group now. It did start because I wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 02:23 PM
1

I think this is the “she doesn’t want ME / what I want” = “she doesn’t know what she wants” equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:29 PM
1

What planet are you on where any of this is happening 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 05:06 PM
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That’s hilarious. Yes who would possibly want a person to actually like / want them prior to to exposing that kind of vulnerability to them. I am no stranger to casual sex but come on, it’s not hard to understand why sex with someone you are fully aware if just pretending to like and be attracted to you isn’t appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 05:04 PM
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How fulfilled can this particular subset of red pill “men” be, what I keep seeing is nothing but endless whining over the “females” in their lives (or not in their lives, either way, whining). But it does stand to reason there isn’t much difference between using money to get someone long-ish term vs paying someone to pretend they like you for an hour. Either way I guess you probably know where you stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 04:57 PM
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Is it fulfilling to pay someone to have sex with / interact with you? I think for the people who are seeking out that specific dynamic and that’s their kink, but how common is it? You surely would know you aren’t actually wanted, liked or desired by the person you are paying. I don’t see how that would close the gap for men who can’t get women. They still can’t get women on any of their own merits, they can just rent her time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 03:24 PM
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Lol no doubt, these guys think they are somehow going to be ordered to pay six figure amounts of support on their 80k a year job.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 03:15 PM
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Ya, can’t win, that’s for sure. Men picking shitty partners is “all women do xyz” and women picking shitty partners is also “all women do xyz”.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 03:10 PM
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Totally. It’s one thing when the relationship breaks down and you need to deal with the outcome. It’s insane to go into a 20 year long dealings with someone purposefully setting the relationship up to be contentious and a batttle.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 05:18 AM
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Ya that fantasy is really not what anyone I’ve ever known lives yet according to men here it’s completely standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 02:53 AM
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That’s either very very wealthy in a western country or moderately wealthy in a developing country. Most people don’t live like that. I’m from an upper class enough background that I went to private schools my whole life and we definitely did not have a full time maid. I don’t know anyone who did, that lived in the same country as me, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 02:51 AM
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I mean, I don’t want that guy. So no loss to me. More like easy elimination of a waste of my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 02:45 AM
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Sounds like pretty lazy comedy to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 02:23 AM
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Good for them if that’s what they want and they did it, it’s a big responsibility and amount of work to take on. The only single moms by choice (since pregnancy) I’ve known who did that made it work for them in ways they are happy with. For all single parent households I think it’s really important to make sure you and your child have relationships with the opposite gender. If that’s grandparents, good friends, siblings, of whatever they look like, more positive relationships with solid, loving …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 02:01 AM
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I’m not sure what a GC is but it sounds like you’ve got some difficulties with setting boundaries. I needed to learn that also.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 01:57 AM
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Yep. That would be why they want a 20 year old with no life experience or other options. She won’t realize he’s just a hypocrite who’s love bombing her and baby trapping her until it’s done. Funny enough, the exact scenario the spousal support / alimony they are so outraged over exists for.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 12:20 AM
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The comments on Reddit are staggered, so you can see pretty easily that’s not the comment I replied to. So obviously, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 12:08 AM
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Ya, what’s the preference here, date / marry the guy who only has a string of “crazy” “bitches” he ever dated before you? Because that’s not a massive waving red flag….
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 11:58 PM
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Ya this was my thought. I hate watching videos so I don’t know the context but if someone was asking specifically about stamos then it seems like she was just being nice. Angrily trashing her ex from almost 20 years ago would be more of a red flag imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 11:55 PM
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My ex and I did not, I made more money but he was frivolous and spendy and so we put an agreed upon amount into our account together and lived off that. He wanted a lifestyle I could afford but wasn’t willing to finance, and he had a lot of debt that I didn’t put my name or accounts anywhere near. His financial irresponsibility absolutely led to the demise of the marriage. Be on the same page with this kind of stuff. My partner now and I are on the same page. My lady money is actually higher ear…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 11:54 PM
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We want to try and make that the case. Both of us are realistic about the odds and not living in fantasy fairy tale land, but on the same note we also both come to the relationship with the knowledge of what you need to put into it to make things work. So it’s got more of a chance than any of either of our young and stars in our eyes relationships did (which obviously didn’t last). At the very least we both know anything we do in our future will be in the interest of our children. There are too …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:57 PM
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That’s so bizarre. Why. Just be a solo parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:14 PM
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Lmao no doubt. Im wondering when my household will have “carpentry” or “wood chopping” chores to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:05 PM
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I kill all the bugs I find in my house. My guy doesn’t like that I do this so he takes them outside if he finds them first. He’s an engineer so whatever he wants to do himself he does, he enjoys doing things that I’d pay someone to do so that makes a difference on the distribution of tasks. We don’t have any dangerous tasks to do. It may surprise you to learn that taking out the garbage is actually quite safe as is cutting the grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 09:59 PM
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Read anything about parenting, parenting after separation, ect and see what they say about treatment of the other parent and how it affects the child. People like you mention should not have children
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 07:59 PM
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Then the woman they do get if they use this behaviour is obviously going to fulfil every preconception they have about women being insecure, attention hungry and shallow. Like… no shit when you select for the exact type of people you are now complaining about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 07:18 PM
2

I would categorize abusive vs being an asshole separately, though obviously there is going to be overlap in the behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:50 PM
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Is this referring to pickup artist behaviour from 1995? Do people do this still? If this works on someone you might want to take it as a red flag that they have major self esteem issues and should be in therapy, not a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:20 PM
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Are those the same men that make substantially more than their wives? I suspect it’s the $20/hr type jobs working construction or something that tend to be more dangerous (outside extreme outliers like underwater welders or offshore rig worker, but let’s not pretend that’s anywhere close the majority)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:16 PM
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This is the scenario that causes women in this situation to feel taken advantage of, and as though they are the mommy maid to her children and the useless 80s sitcom type husband. If you want a housewife, get and support a housewife. If you want a contributing partner, get that but also contribute to your household in equal ways. Trying to have both causes resentment, income doesn’t mean you own your partners time. If it’s that important find someone who makes the same money as you do. I make mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:43 PM
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These studies need to exclude religious and highly conservative marriages so that they better include only or mostly marriages that people stay in because they want to stay in, not because of religious or family pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:23 PM
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Hundreds of men indiscriminately swiping right without even looking at who they are swiping on isn’t an offer for a date. Or a compliment. It’s just desperation and why so many women don’t even bother with these platforms.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:19 PM
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It’s never hurt me, so why divulge is because being honest is relationships is a good thing. I don’t need the type of man in my life who’s worried about who else I’ve had sex with. I don’t like hypocrites, and I’ve never dated someone without experience of their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:47 PM
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Porn is more freely and instantly available than it ever has been, and yet apparently younger men and women are having less sex and are not feeling good or free about that. It may be a common crutch but I don’t think it’s a solution to anyones problem. Even seeing the men here post all their anger over only fans girls, you don’t seem so free or fulfilled. It’s just a different place to put your money / labour
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:31 PM
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This the way to handle it. Vet potential partners before having kids with them. I would never have had kids without knowing it was with someone who was 100% on board to be an equal parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:43 PM
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This claim just proves more to me that finding an educational and ambition level equal was absolutely the right choice for me to prioritize. My partner and I work in similarity male dominated industries, and both of us (and my majority male colleagues) work the same hours from our cubes in an office or at home on a computer. It doesn’t seem coincidental that the men I work with do as much daycare pickup, take similar sick kid days off as the women I know, and they don’t refer to parenting their …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:23 PM
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I’d argue reveal it immediately. I’m not that special, hot or whatever else and I have always had plenty of options for men to date, be in relationships with or just sleep with. Why bother with someone who is going to be a hypocrite or who is sex negative?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:15 PM
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Also, since they don’t want us anyway they can probably also stop whining they can’t get anyone. So many problems solved all at once!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:10 PM
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I wait. I don’t want to watch things twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 12:42 AM
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I’ve known women to get into the situationship type thing you’ve described. I don’t really get the appeal, it always seemed like a good way to get hurt. I’ve never known a women in that kind of thing be happy about it because they are getting laid. More like they feel strung along and either lied to or are lying to themselves (depending on the level of honesty in it from the guy)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 12:28 AM
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Most people are average. If you hear this often, you probably aren’t just hearing it from super attractive people. I’m pretty average and I have absolutely no interest in being bc approached by strangers when I’m at the gym, commuting, buying a coffee.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 12:09 AM
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None of that resembles the comment you replied to
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 12:02 AM
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I’m not advocating doing nothing, i think she everyone could benefit from working on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 10:46 PM
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If they are only making positive changes in order to attract women, and they still don’t attract women or the women they think they should be able to attract, we get the even more bitter of the ppd posters who are now outraged that their self improvement didn’t work to get them the sex they think they deserve. I think anyone other than that ranting person can probably agree this is a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 10:00 PM
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Sex, validation, approval…. (How about adding pleasure and temporary connection to this,) These sound like the things someone after only casual sex is looking for. Some people, women too, are looking for this. I think if we can acknowledge that this can be the case for both genders we can also acknowledge that others want relationships and connection, companionship, family, love, men included. I don’t think more open acknowledgement when it’s that both involved are just wanting sex would lower w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:49 PM
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How desperate is someone who defines herself and her success in relationship to men / men wanting to be in a relationship with her? I don’t think I’ve met a man who would find that at all appealing in a partner. More like a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:57 PM
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What does any of this have to do with gynocentric anything? And ya, this is probably most peoples problem in dating. Bad personalities. Not a woman specific issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:49 PM
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No I think women respond like that to posts where OP “can’t get sex”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:43 PM
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I think for most women who are successful independently, having a good relationship is having a relationship where goals and successes are aligned. I don’t see much of anyone being above wanting a partner. What’s expressed tends to be preferring to be alone over a deadweight partner or one who doesn’t respect them and their priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:40 PM
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Your first point really seems to track. I’ve rarely met a professional man who wasn’t proud of his wife / girlfriends achievements (or alternatively kind of defensive of her lack of them)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:37 PM
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Yep. Among many men I know in life, a woman being referred to as a “hairdresser” is used as a pejorative to indicate lack of ambition, and likelihood she’ll end up a dependent, and not at all appealing. Not saying this is kind or at all ok, but it’s a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:32 PM
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I think that quote is true. Most people wait until you are done talking so they can talk about themselves. I don’t think this is a gendered thing, though more men are conditioned to talk more and more women are conditioned to let them. Left to everyone’s own natural inclinations it’s probably the majority of people who are like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 09:34 PM
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You are confusing “if you are single” with “if you whine and complain endlessly about being single”. And ya, no one should base their worth on other people. That’s a terrible idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 06:37 PM
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I’d advise him to be honest about his intentions and not strong anyone along if he didn’t want to date / be in relationships. And that desperately trying to find casual sex is usually pretty obvious and unappealing and will probably decrease his options.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 04:21 PM
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I wonder why you think the average woman is at all concerned with this? They most likely don’t realize because they really don’t think about it at all or care beyond a fleeting “oh weird”.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 04:04 PM
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You’re advocating that men who can’t “get sex” start appearing more desperate? That’s not going to help them. If you do badly need to “get sex” hire someone. If you want a relationship leave the house once in a while and meet people. Observe how normal humans interact with one and other and try to learn to do that. This posts sounds like a troll, like someone else said.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 03:43 PM
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Is the question why would someone with their shit together be accept someone who has been attracted to deadbeats? They don’t need to. No one should or has to or needs to be with anyone they don’t want to be. That’s the beauty of making your own choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:08 PM
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Based on his own scale of attractiveness, of course. That he’s used to determine his own and her number, which is somehow supposed to be considered actuate by people other than himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 09:42 PM
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Oh good more “I wouldn’t fuck you anyway” type defensiveness as a response to rejection. If she’s not hot enough for you feel free to leave her alone in the first place. If she’s hot enough that you are interested, others probably are too. This isn’t helping frustrated men seem less entitled or more appealing. What this post is coming across as is just defence of the entitlement being apparently debunked by the post and like the scale is just pure delusion. If everyone below you on your scale is…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 09:42 PM
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Ya that’s very accurate. I am an introvert by nature, but I’m social with people I like and like to spend time with. I remember a definition a long time ago I read was about how you recharge not about shyness or social anxiety.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:37 PM
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Bonus is, if you also have your shit together, you don’t have to sacrifice the hot. You just have better taste in people than your 20 year old self.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:28 PM
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The nice guy that’s referred to here sounds like maybe the guy that’s actually a good person with his shit together. This would be in contract to the video game playing stoner without a job, the “bad boy” or the asshole that doesn’t actually like her, that some women find appealing before they realize those guys are a terrible prospect for a long term partner or any kind of adult relationship. The smarter among us realize this without trying to change the “hot guy” but not everyone is looking to…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:53 PM
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Wow you really have to scroll in this thread to get past all the TRP circle jerking. One thing humans can be relied on for is believing their particular echo chamber is facts while other echo chambers are delusional. I don’t know if they would be date one and other. Both probably end up dating no one and pretending that was their goal all along. Both seem to create repellant people for anyone looking for healthy relationships or interactions. At least both seem to give a pretty solid list of buz…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:27 PM
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And I think both groups are really not that big. They probably feel huge on Reddit but I doubt most people have heard of either out in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:17 PM
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Basically. But you need to have absolutely not morals or conscience so your mileage may vary
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 02:28 PM
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Ya that’s the same thing imo. If we want people to stop misrepresenting us we can’t let them be the loudest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 04:55 AM
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Lol right. What a bitch I am for thinking him cheating on me, stealing money from me and then unnecessarily driving up the cost of a divorce is somehow his fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 04:51 AM
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They’d probably also get screamed at and called names by the guy so it could also be conflict aversion. The loud and obnoxious tend to believe everyone else is just like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:25 AM
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Ya I’d avoid those ones, myself. But if that’s appealing to someone…. 🤷‍♀️ I couldn’t live off someone else, myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:22 AM
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Compared to him I’m not really sure what kind of career she had anyway. She was kind of grasping for relevance it seemed and lost the game of chicken. I have said many times and I will say many more both of them need to be single and in therapy for a very long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 11:42 PM
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Leave him for what, though? The trad wife with a couple of kids, no education, no career, who is clearly looking for her next meal ticket is probably not going to have a good time in the dating market. Women shouldn’t be putting themselves into this position anyway. That’s how you get trapped.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 11:40 PM
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Lol go to a gym with actual lifters or a strongman gym. If you can find a place with no mirrors and literal rocks for people to train with its going to feel ideal for people who want to just train and don’t want to hang around taking butt selfies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 11:37 PM
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Pretty much. The most outrageous and loudest are going to define you if you let them. If that’s not what you believe you might not want to let them speak for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 11:32 PM
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Over inflation / inaccuracy of self perception and desperation is what it seems like.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:35 PM
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I kind of depends if both parents ever supported the children, doesn’t it? If you wanted and got a stay at home wife then you set up the exact circumstances you are so outraged over. If she had a job to quit to be a single stay at home mom and actually managed to get the amount of child support that enables this then you needed actual legal representation when it was decided and absolutely could have afforded it based on the income that would be required for this to even be plausible.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:07 PM
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Same, omg. It was infuriating. He drove costs up for absolutely no reason by over complicating the divorce agreement and making my lawyer follow up over and over. It should have been less than $1000 but I spent at least $5000 and he apparently did too…. On lawyers. For no reason. I just do not get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:53 PM
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Since I went through it, I’ve talked to other women who were in the same situation who also just went and did the work to legally end things, so I figure it’s common enough to have some effect on the numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:39 PM
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Ya I don’t get it either. I’m sure I was the villain of his side of the story, but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:38 PM
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Ya I’ve come across a few situations like mine in the post divorce years. I don’t think it’s uncommon. I don’t get why he didn’t want to just be done with things, but whatever. It got done!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:37 PM
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A guy friend (definitely not a guy ppd would assume would do well with women) met his wife on a paid for online dating / matchmaking service. They are very much equals and well suited to one and other likely because they didn’t just pick each other out of a catalog but matched on other criteria. I’m not sure how common these kinds of services are everywhere but for someone looking for a relationship it seems sound to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:16 PM
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I can only speak for myself, but a guy with “no standards” who doesn’t value my achievements or position in life is even less appealing for a relationship than for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:53 PM
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Lol yes that $400 a month is living the high life. Whoohoo. You know most people aren’t splitting million dollar annual incomes, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:47 PM
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And they somehow think the wife in this situation finds this an appealing way to live
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:46 PM
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I can tell you why in my case, it’s because I’d still be married to the man who initiated the end of the relationship and fully moved in with someone else but was still somehow “too busy” to do the work required to talk to lawyer, file, ect. So on paper I filed/initiated. That’s not the way the marriage ended though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:44 PM
1

I take it as a good thing! The attraction takes work and effort to maintain over the years, once the honeymoon period is lessened
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:19 PM
2

Oh for sure, I get that. I initially had the same with my partner. I met him on an app so there was some initial attraction but the animal level can’t keep my hands off him was in getting to know him. I remember early on he lost a t shirt in my bed somewhere and I found it later and it still smelled like him, and I kept it for a long time… I was like StopThis You Are Being SO WEIRD. But oh well 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 05:39 PM
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Yes it’s harder for men to go out and randomly get women to have sex with. Women don’t generally want to go out and have sex with random men. We don’t feel sorry for you for not being able to get something from us that you think you should be able to easily get just because you want it? Add to that posts like this, where the message is that most men have basically no standards and are just looking for a warm hole. Way to come across as appealing and not desperate. What you miss is that this lack…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 05:09 PM
6

This is why these arguments are so futile. Constantly stating that looks is the most important thing and then getting bent out of shape about how women rarely feel any immediate attraction to anyone “proves” nothing more than that the criteria being used isn’t based on reality or there would be no relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 04:33 PM
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I don’t think so. Men who look like this have been around for a long time and they’ve always been outliers in society because of how much needs to go into it. I started lifting during the time period you mention and there was absolutely bro cutlture, gym culture, PEDs in the locker rooms. It’s not new. I’m a gym rat, though im a competitive weightlifter not a bodybuilder. The average gym goer in my weightlifting / powerlifting gym doesn’t look like these guys or want to. Some of the women there …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:33 AM
3

I get that for sure. I’ve been on video calls for 2 years now looking at every flaw on my face all day long on a shitty camera in not great lighting 😂 it’s been giving me a complex
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:10 PM
2

This is similar to how my career was for a long time. Now, way more new grads coming in are women though. It seems to be evening out with time. Though sr management in my industry is almost never the same career path as me, I’m in IT so that’s probably not a surprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 10:15 PM
3

Not because of his looks. If he didn’t have all the status and money he does, he’d be lamenting the days he was cute, 25 and charming (was he charming, I don’t even know, he looked charming).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 09:56 PM
6

Or…. L E O N A R D O D I C A P R I O. Who makes no sense to cite since he really hasn’t aged well
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 09:02 PM
2

I don’t think it’s normal or healthy to worry about yourself in comparison to your partners ex. Not sexually, not in any other way. It would be good to work on not comparing, just for your own sake. Being good in bed is a good thing to worry about imo. Why not constantly try and be great for your partner. Everyone wins!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 08:59 PM
3

So much of this hinges on the idea that women are just out 24/7 trying to find a man, talking to men, living their lives to get a man. If you can consider that may not be what she’s doing or trying to do it would probably be easier to accept that her not being interested in you specifically, may not have anything to do with anyone other than you and her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 08:09 PM
2

That’s funny, pre COVID I used to get the eyelash extensions, though subtle ones not the really dramatic ones but now I basically never wear anything. Maybe mascara if I’m going out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 07:50 PM
2

Exactly. I was trying to figure out what this would look like and it seems very likely that men who are out searching hard for hookups or relationships are getting rejected due to absolutely reeking of desperation. That will get you to 90% rejection pretty easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:33 PM
6

That’s pretty much just something that works in photos / videos that have the exact lighting that the makeup was done for though. I don’t think out in the world you’d see this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:26 PM
6

Ya I was thinking that women in offices don’t wear a whole lot of makeup. A full face would be noticed far more than none at all
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:25 PM
14

Really? No man has ever asked me why I don’t / do wear makeup. My partner has asked me why I have so much when I do not really use it, that’s the closest thing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:24 PM
1

Got to wonder what these people plan on doing once the meal ticket runs out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:16 PM
2

Interesting. It doesn’t here, it’s sole custody or shared and that’s the calculation. My partner has never disputed child support, he’d be the first to admit he had a kid with a total deadweight and paying what he does he at least knows his kid has a roof over her head while she’s with her mom. But the idea she’s doing it alone is very false
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:13 PM
3

Yep, most dads I know are in the 40-50% parent range. I know it’s not like that everywhere, but it’s starting to move more to 50/50 being default.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 02:55 AM
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Women with kids and the kids dad in the picture, even at 50/50 are still called single moms. Dads in that situation seem not to be called single dads. So I think in many cases there are as many, they just aren’t referred to in the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 11:10 PM
10

You’ve given yourself a great reason to continue avoiding casual sex. You should continue doing that if that’s what you want. I can’t imagine any sane person is at all affected by this decision and cares about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:47 PM
1

I’m not sure what either of your posts mean or what you are getting at. I’m saying all home duties are split it doesn’t matter I make more money. There is an aknowlegement of some biological differences that temporarily put more on me, that’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:42 PM
1

Including childcare once the kid isn’t breastfeeding, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:19 PM
1

I’m not sure what high earner thresholds are, but I make around 30% more than my partner. We split things evenly around what we don’t mind doing vs what we hate doing. For example I’ll do laundry because he hates it. He cleans the bathrooms in return. Childcare is as close to 50/50 as biology lets you make it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:35 PM
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There are already plenty of deadbeat dads out there and giving them a legal blessing to be that way is not in any way going to improve society. Too many children grow up in poverty with a supposed 2 parents taking care of them (I think we all know the reality of that system, though) I guess people in favour of this idea are in favour of improved social programs and payouts to single parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 11:35 AM
1

People with higher education are less likely to fall into a whole lot of categories that many would consider negative in a partner. They are also less likely to fall for the idea that a 36 year old who’s so proud of finally making 6 figures and trying to find a virgin is a good catch though. It’s probably a preference that solves for itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:36 AM
1

Referring to using or having game just seems a little pathetic to me. It’s not how normal people talk
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:31 AM
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Ya, replying to every thread with some variation of “even though you said xyz you actually AGREE with me” isn’t exactly productive discussion. The topic is kinda relevant, and maybe useful, regardless though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:30 AM
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Ya everything coming out of the trial indicates a highly dysfunctional codependent relationship between people who both need to be single and go to therapy for a long time. I do agree also that Herd leveraged the women are always victims assumptions in a pretty disgusting way. I don’t think either of them have their hands clean though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 02:39 AM
4

Ya it’s probably a reasonable plan to avoid anyone who has an untreated personality disorder
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 02:25 AM
2

Most women most likely don’t know who he is let alone celebrate his death.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 02:22 AM
3

This seems location and socioeconomic more than anything. If the dating pool is mostly single mothers by their late 20s you are most likely referring to a lower socioeconomic and less educated group of people and generalizing from that. Because ya, college is when a lot of people meet their long term partner or first partners. And education for women is correlated with not being a mom that young. There is a “getting your shit together” factor for both genders that comes from experience and educa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:25 PM
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If you use the words day-game you probably lost a long time ago, but I’ll bite Work. Back when I was much younger and working customer facing jobs it was bad enough, though expected. Being in the corporate world it’s just an outright no. Gym. At least for me. I’ve known people to meet at gyms like through training teams, or mutual friends or something but treating it like a pickup scene is going to get you laughed at.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 09:43 PM
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This question isn’t really for me since I don’t know who this is, but celebrating someone’s death is pretty gross, whatever they lived their life like. That being said the descriptions posted here make him seem like a rage bait scammer, which is generally pretty cringey to anyone outside of said scammers particular little bubble. I guess people who cared about his content while he was making it will care he’s not going to be any more. The rest will not know or not care. I don’t think there is mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 09:38 PM
0

Haha yes. We are in the nerdy office dwellers realm, here at Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 07:38 PM
1

If you make 1/4 that much it seems like it would be, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 07:37 PM
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I imagine being introverted and not that social and seeking out like minded online communities that evolve into pity party type narritives is not helpful, either. I know the “go outside” thing isn’t that helpful, generally, but it’s kind of the only solution. Not participating in the inside kids pity party would probably go a long way for many.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:53 PM
1

Ya that seems kind of obvious. Being ambitious and building wealth is a very reasonable life goal imo. I know I want to give my children at least as much as I had growing up. It’s the seeming implication or outright statement that this “6 figures” is going to land them their 22 year old stay at home virgin wife that is deserving of pity imo
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:49 PM
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When OPs argument relies on removing all the examples of relationships he’s deemed the woman not good enough to be in based on his own ranking system you can’t really call anything about it logically sound or superior. It’s also a pretty huge waste of time to tell women over and over they should change their expectations based on other peoples opinion of those expectations and other peoples experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:46 PM
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I’m not sure what this post is suggesting we do here. You want women to get into relationships with and fuck men they don’t want and aren’t attracted to, instead of men entering relationships with women you don’t want them to and wouldn’t be attracted to? Sound logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:28 PM
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I wonder if it “doesn’t count” when women are the hotter one in the relationship. (Based on someone else’s rating scale of course, since apparently them actually being in the relationship doesn’t matter for the conversation)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:25 PM
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Conflating these 2 points seems to be half the disconnect here. To further that, acting like women who have ever had causal sex in their life are oppressing the men they don’t want to have casual sex with now is not helpful, not going to get the red pill wannabes laid, and is not going to change the dating environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:08 PM
1

Modern medicine which is used as more proof of women hitting the wall at 30 something?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:04 PM
1

If I misunderstand what it’s about, so does every other poster prior to this OP who has mentioned it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:02 PM
11

An elderly millionaire keeping a salaried group of “girlfriends” is not indicative of the sexual attractiveness of 80 year old men 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 07:51 AM
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Ya that’s very true. Coupled with this being fitchick gym bunny who suddenly gains 100lbs and is somehow oblivious to it? That’s not two patterns of behaviours of the same person
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 07:29 AM
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Seems pretty pathetic to me, but I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:16 AM
1

I wonder if they feel pity for the man providing them the privilege of being the adult dependent. Because you sure paint a miserable picture of what a working parent lives like.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:44 AM
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I don’t know if or how often women do this, none that I know do, but sure, maybe someone out there is using tinder for free meals. The big question I have about this is why? Don’t these people have friends that they would rather have dinner with? Do they have so much free time that they can go out all the time and don’t have to pick between friends and some random they don’t intend to see again? Has someone online actually said they do this and given an explanation for it? Because to me it just …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:38 AM
1

You are confusing looking down on someone with feeling pity for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:24 AM
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I’m using the examples given in this sub all the time, turn 33 and make 6 figures and get a 22 year old to babytrap. I don’t think a woman who is also 33 and making 6 figures would fall for that so it’s not worth mentioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 11:14 PM
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Yep. I (and my partner) make pretty good money if you look at it objectively but I’m certainly not rich all it means really is that daycare costs don’t cripple us and that my partner and I could support a year off per kiddo. When I was younger I definitely thought this number would go much further.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 09:36 PM
1

Oh for sure, especially on younger men, testosterone is also a factor you can’t leave off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 09:33 PM
1

That’s pretty easy to figure out by putting in height, weight and activity to a TDEE calculator. It’s weird people are continually surprised by this. My partner is like 7 inches taller than me and weighs around 50lbs more. Of course he can eat more than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:48 PM
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This OP plus the responses below it create a very tragic picture and a very tragic person. It could be used as a warning to anyone starting down the path of believing anything they read on the internet vs going outside once in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:46 PM
1

I don’t think there are really any women that rank and rate men to the specifications used here to determine top 20% let alone who then consider what that particular group of men want based on criteria they would then have to assume based on a series or stereotypes. But I think at the base of all of this is a “do fat women know they are fat” type question. And ya I’m pretty sure they do. It’s fairly well communicated how people everywhere feel about fat people, not so easy to avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:33 PM
2

I don’t really know what this whole thing is in response to. What other woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:10 PM
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I mean the vast majority really don’t need to consider that at all. This idea that tipping over to 6 figures is super rich was true 50 years ago, not today. Maybe in low income areas you need to consider those things but in a city these days you aren’t exactly special because you can afford a Tesla lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:07 PM
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This post kinda outlines why I feel sorry for the men who plan on living this life once they are older and making more money. The elusive 6 figures isn’t what you think it is when you are making 40k, and pumping up your lifestyle to make yourself seem rich and fancy is going to mean over spending and basically over promising any relationships you get into based on peddling the “lifestyle” described. There is a big gap between the actually rich who can leverage money to buy hot womens company and…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 04:23 PM
1

As usual, trying to paint all women with one brush based on the behaviour of one person is going to give you the same repeatability as doing that with men. Six billion people don’t “all” do anything. They are individuals and all want individual things. I’m sure I could dig up some video of a woman claiming she wants an emotionally available man who crys without looking that hard. But it would be as pointless as sharing a video of a woman saying its weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 04:08 PM
1

It tracks with friends of mine who have been in open relationships. Though I think most women on the apps will put right on their profile they are married and open. It seems like the author didn’t do that which comes across as shady. It probably increased the interest of the men looking just for sex since they assumed she’d be sneaking around. I think it speaks a lot to how differently women vs men want to use the apps. According to men I talk to the majority of women want relationships or at th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 04:04 PM
1

Ya, it’s kinda impossible to plan in my life since the kiddo is so small I have no idea what the world will look like. My friends with older kids have had a hard time not giving them cell phones already, at around 10. No on having land lines any more, and every kid knowing how to use computers/iPads, ect. You don’t want them to be behind and not know things they need to know, either. I’m very much in play it by ear mode lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 03:57 PM
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Ya, I feel for the kids who can’t sit down and have dinner without an iPad in front of them. Hopefully they eventually learn to have conversations and interact but it sure doesn’t look like it’s happening on the face of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 03:45 AM
2

I’ve got to have some empathy for all the people agreeing with this. Being sexually unfulfilled sucks, but completely blaming it on the other person without considering it takes 2 to be in a relationship isn’t going to fix that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 03:42 AM
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That on second thought point seems way out to I lunch to me (the person who thinks this I mean, not you). Wouldn’t she be more likely to leave if she didn’t think the relationship was going anywhere? Or it’s self fulfilling and she doesn’t take it seriously and therefore doesn’t care that it’s not going anywhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 03:29 AM
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Ya I think most people attracted to men agree with you. It seems like mainly men who will argue all day that women only go for one specific type and only pick partners based on their looks…. This objectively can’t be true or there would be way fewer couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:27 PM
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It is truly insane to feel invested in what strangers consider a good match for themselves based on your interpretation of what others should find attractive. Definitely stand by and don’t feel any kind of way about it, it has absolutely nothing to do with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:17 PM
1

Yep my go to is Robert Pattinson. He looks like my brother so I have no attraction to him whatsoever though I know most people agree he ticks all the attraction boxes!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:15 PM
1

🤷‍♀️ on a post about advice based on personal anecdote?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:32 PM
1

Like I said, we don’t bother. We do however roll our eyes at one and other behind your back, so it’s not that it goes unnoticed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:20 PM
1

You sound condescending and I personally would go out of my way to avoid you. The issue with complaining and calling someone out about this kind of thing is that it just goes into the pile of “emotional women” assumptions and nothing changes anyway. So it doesn’t surprise me at all that you perceive no one as taking issue with things like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:08 PM
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Looks are subjective, of course. The thing that gets pushback is people (men, here) using their own rating system to say what other people should think of them and evaluate them as. It doesn’t work like that. Why does someone who doesn’t want to date / sleep with an obese woman care if she calls herself hot? It completely doesn’t affect you. Move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 07:57 PM
2

If you want and enjoy sex then 2 is a very bad time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 06:20 PM
0

I think I’d probably crumble if I needed to dump someone every 3-4 days for a year. I’d rather be dumped for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 06:16 PM
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Toss out girls who use tinder all you want, half the whining on this sub is how you guys can’t get any matches anyway so it shouldn’t really affect you a whole lot 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 06:03 PM
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You really don’t need to try online dating to understand how many men are thirty and desperate and will try to fuck anyone. Just go to a nightclub and it’s very obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 05:55 PM
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😂 spot on. I’ve met good people on there too, but it’s a lot of bullshit to find one good match.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 05:52 PM
1

Ohh i wondered how they had so many recordings of their private fights. It seems kind of obvious anyone recording secretly in their own house is pushing an agenda and narritive and driving what they want the recording to have in it. I don’t think he will will the money but it’s probably more a win in the court of public opinion, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 04:21 PM
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I remember watching porn reality shows like 15 years ago and they actresses were talking about how they did “teen” through to their 30s but that it overlapped with the start of the milf category around then
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 11:03 PM
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This is what I don’t get. No amount of fillers or surgery is going to make me look 10 years younger than I am, so why would I want people to think I’m a weirdly aged 20something who looks old for her age? Kinda dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 11:02 PM
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That’s not happening in real life though. I think you’ve got to at least tip to 40-45 for anyone to be that rude
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 11:00 PM
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Haha yeah maybe. My mom was jokingly “29” until she was around 40. She never actually said it with any seriousness, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 10:59 PM
1

Hm I didn’t realize it was that elaborate. Could be.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 10:50 PM
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The “speak to your manager” thing has been a go to insult for women that fit this description for much longer and I think it’s more accurate. Calling everyone you disagree with a “Karen” is just meaningless at this point. I haven’t really heard it in terms of sexual desirability. Not sure if that’s what some people intend to imply.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 10:01 PM
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I’d agree with point one, particularly where someone is not making a big deal about how no one lives up, ect, ect. If you have high standards and it’s down to finding someone to meet them, or being alone and the person is happy to be alone rather than compromise, it really doesn’t matter, does it? People don’t NEED to be with someone. For 2, I guess it seems kind of obvious to me to state that if a person has high standards that are being met, they can’t be called “too high”. They are obviously …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 09:34 PM
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Do women do this? I’ve never heard of it, outside blind items suggesting celebrities do it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 07:55 PM
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I’ve heard that they do, it’s hypocritical imo when it comes from women that don’t see issue with women being bisexual or experimenting or whatever (which many women do). I can’t speak to what drives this. Probably insecurity. I don’t personally care. My person isn’t actually bisexual but has experimented and would again, we both kind of say we are bisituational. We are both just pretty free sexually, is what it comes down to, and it works for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 07:07 PM
1

To make this a realistic scenario, I’d say yeah, if a friend introduced me to someone I’d be more likely to be interested in him than if I met him from an app, or randomly out in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:57 PM
1

What. So more social media profiles, basically? Except it would also include some kind of rating system? This seems insane to even suggest, just go outside and meet people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 03:38 PM
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Yep, abortions are not going to be out of reach for rich people. Not even in a dystopian handmaids tale style future
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 02:21 AM
1

The answers here are incredibly telling and sad. If you aren’t capable of platonic friendship, you might want to work on that before you try and have other kinds of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 12:39 AM
2

K. I don’t know or care to differentiate between your various circle jerks but do cling to whatever your specific flavour is as “the truth”. It seems to be working out great for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 12:37 AM
5

This would be helpful for them to consider. Crying on Reddit about not being able to get someone equal to them in looks is great, I’m sure, but maybe someone more objective than your mom should be helping you determine who that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 11:12 PM
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It always reads as “my mom says I’m good looking” and therefore they jump to the conclusion that they should effortlessly find someone. That’s not how life works, not for any normal person, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 11:03 PM
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It’s funny to complain about this over and over while also saying the experience is counter to other peoples objective opinions of him. Um no, the objective opinion that matters (the other person who would enter the relationship) is giving you the same information over and over.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 08:47 PM
6

I didn’t mention any pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 08:43 PM
4

You don’t “have” to do any of this. You are deciding to be a part of every single piece of what you then cry and complain about. Women don’t deserve to be with men you seem too good for them? Well, apparently they do if you can’t even get a women you deem not good enough for you. There is a simple solution to your grievances. Don’t pursue women who don’t meet your standards. Can’t get anyone? I guess that’s your fate, then. You’ll always have your revenge fantasy’s to think of, where the girl yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 07:45 PM
5

I know. No one arguing these points is ever in the situation they are outraged over
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 07:27 PM
3

Then don’t? The conversation is about support and selecting partners that meet your standards. No one is forcing marriage on autonomous adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 05:25 PM
7

People who agree to this make their own beds. Why are you signing up for an adult dependent if that’s not what you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 05:22 PM
11

All of this is what’s lost on the complaints about alimony, the outliers who end up paying it are the men who marry younger, uneducated, no career women. So if that’s what you select for in a partner, you are more likely to fulfill this fear. Anyone who puts annual incomes of 90k vs 115k into a spousal support / child support calculator can see you are talking a couple hundred dollars max. Then try it with 20k vs 115k. Make decisions accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 05:17 PM
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Im responding to a comment about exes and divorces so obviously there is acknowledgment here that not every marriage is forever. You’d have to be pretty naïeve to see the divorce rates and not make some sort of plan if you or your partner want one of you to sacrifice self sufficiency and be a stay at home person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 04:45 PM
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The “same lifestyle” is 1/2 for both people. Outside the very few outliers where your are splitting 5 million a year or whatever it’s maybe 40k each for a few years. Not exactly the high life. If you seek out a low education, no career much younger woman and want her to be the housewife / stay at home parent, and the relationship ends, supporting her for a bit is what you signed up for. Don’t have kids with that person if you don’t want to be on the hook for the decision to have kids with someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 03:44 PM
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What do men do to “build society” exactly? Get jobs and work like the vast majority of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 03:41 AM
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Easy problem to solve. Don’t sleep with people you aren’t attracted to. You sound bitter you can’t get anyone, including women you wouldn’t even want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 03:38 AM
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K.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 08:00 PM
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You are insane if you think sexualizing yourself to climb a career ladder is a good policy. Good luck with that. I’d rather be a woman but I’d rather be me as a woman. If I were useless and relied on men in my life for money, security, or to do things for me I’d probably agree with the premise of this post. Not being a victim or helpless example is in our control. Relationships are work regardless of gender. We need to vet in different ways is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 06:40 PM
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