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| 1 | TheReason We All Ended Up HereNo book as yet. Not on this. But think of it like this. There's reality as we experience it, and everyone fights over it. It's malleable as plasticine. What does this mean, what does that. Most people don't look beyond this. Most people can't. But beneath all we know and believe is reality itself. The reality of everything and anything. The reality of women, the reality of men. The reality of hope and freedom, the reality of the chains that keep us all imprisoned in our fears and the bitterness … | /r/TheRedPill | 04/07/19 08:26 PM |
| 1 | TheReason We All Ended Up HereThe idea of yourself as a superior man can have all sorts of different meanings, ascribing to different ways of being superior. Being more honest, more truthful, or more focused on reality are among these ways. If you change what you admire about yourself from admiring how you want power to admiring how you want truth, that's just more vanity. You've just changed the paint job. And of course, it's hollow, hypocritical shit. There's no honesty in it, no kindness, just a person worshipping themsel… | /r/TheRedPill | 04/07/19 06:38 PM |
| 1 | TheReason We All Ended Up HereIn seeking to be a superior man, as opposed to being one that gets all the women, You're swapping one kind of prison for another. It's so faustian. Vanity is addictive. It is very powerful. It sucks you up inside it. You've spent so much time desperately chasing after women. Now you're desperately chasing after a man: that image you have of a superior you. It is reality we should place at the centre of our lives, not the fictions we concoct of our own brilliance. When we do that, those fictions … | /r/TheRedPill | 04/07/19 05:41 PM |
| 2 | The Difficulty of Breaking Your ConditioningYou are losing the power games with this woman for one reason. You are adrift. You are unmoored in your mind and your life because you're lost in your own arrogance. What you've found is a set of arguments as to why you're in the right. What you've found is an image of a man you are attracted to - yourself. You are having a relationship with yourself. This woman only has use to you insofar as she boosts your admiration for this fictional man you aspire to be. You love all the rules and straight … | /r/TheRedPill | 04/07/19 05:31 PM |
| 1 | Subcommunication: The Hidden Language Of High StatusYou've said you don't care about the truth or falsehood of anything you yourself say. So what are any of your criticisms worth? They're worth the same as you. Nothing. You can tell me that identity's not a parasite. But you don't care if it is or not. You just like the idea that it's not because that's safe for you. That's unthreatening. It's a safe idea you can hide behind, safe from any risk at all, loudly proclaiming how right you are. And that's a message with an audience of one, mate, becau… | /r/TheRedPill | 03/07/19 05:58 PM |
| 1 | Subcommunication: The Hidden Language Of High StatusOkay, so let's zero in. "We are bio machines, only motivated to do something if it was planted in us by evolution." Yes. True I'm not saying that it isn't true. Okay? I'm just saying there is something else happening as well... we're not the only bio machines formed by evolution. There are others. And some bio machines are specialised in the exploitation and manipulation of other bio machines. These are called 'obligate parasites'. There is nothing remotely controversial about that. Nothing. Nob… | /r/TheRedPill | 02/07/19 08:01 PM |
| 1 | Subcommunication: The Hidden Language Of High StatusBecause you are not brave enough to look at the truth you are incapable of doing anything other than looking like a moron. Dawkins and Dennett are still actively working, both still publishing books. They are two of the most respected public academics on Earth, and two of the most active. Their latest stuff has been released this year, not 50 years ago. Frankly the fact that you don't seem to know that is pretty weird. Even people who don't build their entire reason to be on evolution know that.… | /r/TheRedPill | 01/07/19 10:33 PM |
| 2 | Subcommunication: The Hidden Language Of High StatusOkay. Um, right. Where to start? In any situation where there is a limited resource, those who compete best for that resource will live while those who do not will die. The ones who survive are those best adapted to get the resource. This means their genes are more prevalent in the next generation, and it is this which leads to the change in organisms that is called 'evolution'. It is driven by what Richard Dawkins calls "a ruthless process of non-random death". He wrote a number of books about … | /r/TheRedPill | 29/06/19 08:50 PM |
| 1 | Subcommunication: The Hidden Language Of High StatusWhat you are saying betrays a vast and howling disconnect between who you think you are and what you are actually doing. You think you are being rational, level-headed and scientific. You think you are championing evolution, and correct thinking. This seems obvious to you. But everything you say is an utter betrayal of the very principles you yourself care about. Don't just dismiss that. Look at the evidence I'm going to put in front of you. Firstly you say I don't understand evolution, because … | /r/TheRedPill | 27/06/19 09:16 PM |
| 1 | Subcommunication: The Hidden Language Of High StatusOkay, so you're saying that the only reason anyone, including yourself, has ever do any good is for the sake of their own moral vanity. This we agree on. But then to you say this is normal, and not a problem, because good gets done anyway. So if the patient is healed, what does it matter what the doctor's motivations are? Surely, you say, it doesn't matter if we're all doing things entirely for selfish motivations. We're all animals and this is how we are. Best to just accept it. But it is preci… | /r/TheRedPill | 26/06/19 06:39 PM |
| 1 | Subcommunication: The Hidden Language Of High StatusI don't care if you acknowledge my authority. It seems insane to me that you only seem able to comprehend that this is a pissing contest and nothing else. There is a real thing here. It is indeed hidden. It's a fucker to see. I don't get to choose that. The point I'm getting to is that you seem to think that giving your commitment to seriously considering something is some kind of terrible act of subservience to someone else. It's like you're so desperate to be top dog in your own eyes that an… | /r/TheRedPill | 25/06/19 08:46 PM |
| 1 | Subcommunication: The Hidden Language Of High Statuspinches bridge of nose Goddamn you are an arrogant, arrogant child. Let me try again. You are telling me I cannot possibly have anything to say before I even say it. You are claiming this amazing act of psychic brilliance is due to how nothing real is scary. I point out that cancer is both real and scary and then you lose your fucking shit, and have a tantrum like a child about how just because you felt regret not fear facing your death, nothing real could be scary? And you speak to me of logic?… | /r/TheRedPill | 25/06/19 05:57 PM |
| 1 | I thought I wanted a unicorn.Okay. I'll do my best. But unless you will honour your commitment this will not work. I need your collaboration on getting something really fucking big across to you. I would also just mention this: I'm not saying all these things about how fucked up it is because I'm trying to get you interested. I'm saying these things about it because they are painfully, painfully true. The extremity and horror of this is not a selling point. If anything, the opposite is true. This is a kick in the fucking te… | /r/TheRedPill | 25/06/19 05:38 PM |
| 1 | Subcommunication: The Hidden Language Of High StatusWhat if it is based on science? What if I could scientifically prove it? And mate, you say there's nothing scary in reality or in facts? So if you found out you had cancer in reality, you wouldn't find that scary because "world is as it is and if you understand facts you always can accept them." I mean.... fucking hell man. Like... wow. That's a chilling level of stupidity. It's also a facile understanding of life, reality and everything that tells me you are a shallow person who lives in his ow… | /r/TheRedPill | 25/06/19 11:10 AM |
| 1 | The current sexual marketplace facilitates economic and sexual exploitationHouston, we have a problem. The problem is that when you make peace with being so cold, being a hollow, empty person because everyone else is, and so you decide you're just going to do it effectively as opposed to ineffectively, you make yourself far more of a willing, conscious and complicit participant in the fakeness itself. While you're doing 'minimum needed charade', you're still manipulating people, and doing so consciously. This isn't a moral problem in a vague moral sense. There is a pro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/19 08:48 PM |
| 1 | I thought I wanted a unicorn.Okay, let me be REALLY SIMPLE FOR YOU THEN. There is a level of yourself that you cannot see. The reason you cannot see it is that it is terrifying and horrendous. Because of this, you have developed a shitload of different ways to avoid seeing it. I have not even begun to explain to you what this level is or how to see it. That is why you cannot see the main idea. I have not said it. And nor will I until you make a very specific commitment. I am not going to argue you into believing it. I am no… | /r/TheRedPill | 24/06/19 06:57 PM |
| 1 | Subcommunication: The Hidden Language Of High StatusIt is surreal to me that you think you understand my point, when your idea of what I am saying is staggeringly different from what I think is happening, and utterly, utterly wrong. Stop leaping to the assumption you have absolute understanding, so you can throw out some facile comeback and pat yourself on the back for being so clever. You are not. What is happening to you, and to all of us, is massively, massively more extreme than you think. Your ideas are a tepid, beige, and tame. They are als… | /r/TheRedPill | 24/06/19 06:43 PM |
| 1 | Why menslib is wrong, and why feminism is insufficient to address men's issues. (AKA, why we need the mens rights movement)Hope you find your spine. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/19 06:19 PM |
| 1 | The current sexual marketplace facilitates economic and sexual exploitationOh, one other thing. This really hurts to see. If you bounce off it or flinch it, then it's not so bad, but if you truly see the reality of who you actually are, it's very upsetting. I just want to say - don't flinch it, don't pussy out... but also if/when you do see the full scale of it, just remember that no matter how bad it is, there is something good about finally seeing the full scale of the problem. It's a nightmare, but if you see it then there is something you can do. This is not the en… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/19 07:02 PM |
| 1 | Subcommunication: The Hidden Language Of High StatusSomething very extreme. There really is no way to see it which isn't fucking upsetting. And I mean FUCKING upsetting. It's a hit. Also if you do see it, don't just run away and start screaming into a pillow. There is a solution, for real, so if you want to see the thing, okay, but you have to promise not to bail until you also hear why it has happened to you and how it can be addressed. That's all the disclaimers and caveats I can think of right now. But it is a bit of a fucking commitment from … | /r/TheRedPill | 22/06/19 06:33 PM |
| 1 | Subcommunication: The Hidden Language Of High Status:) This is something a little spicier than just a new perspective. It's more like pulling aside a curtain to see something on the other side so horrifying you'd do anything not to see it. It takes a commitment of serious courage and will. That's just the basic admission fee, because this thing it's a fucking bastard to look at. It really hurts. If you're not up for a serious push to look at something very, very intense inside yourself, then there's just no point in me tapping on this here keyboa… | /r/TheRedPill | 22/06/19 06:29 PM |
| 1 | I thought I wanted a unicorn.Here's my point. You are making decisions for reasons that are not the reasons you yourself are aware of. The conclusions I reach about your life are not some amazing leap of imagination. They are obviously true because of the limitations in your perspective. You say that if you were shallow and selfish, you would fuck others on the side or just dump her. So because you're not doing these things, but are agonising about the situation, you are not shallow or selfish. My point is this - yes you ar… | /r/TheRedPill | 22/06/19 06:27 PM |
| 0 | Why menslib is wrong, and why feminism is insufficient to address men's issues. (AKA, why we need the mens rights movement)Yeah, just what I thought. You can dish it out but you can't take it. Let me be really clear then, so as to help you understand the basic, basic things I am saying. You're running away from anything that might shake that certainty in your own brilliance. It's not that you think I don't have anything to say. That would be a massive step forward for you, one that I have no expectation you have the will or capacity to make. It's far worse than that. You don't care if I do. You just like posturing t… | /r/MensRights | 22/06/19 06:14 PM |
| 1 | Subcommunication: The Hidden Language Of High StatusYou mean you've skimmed through some of my comments, and decided that I'm saying something that's obviously easy to dismiss, then you've dismissed it in a really shallow way so you can showboat to yourself about how clever you are? Let me be really explicit. If you think my main point is "people do most things for the sake of their self-image" then you are an idiot. That is not what I am saying. Not at all. If you want me to take you seriously enough to actually engage with you, demonstrate to m… | /r/TheRedPill | 22/06/19 05:54 PM |
| 1 | The current sexual marketplace facilitates economic and sexual exploitationYes, it is solvable, but it's a motherfucker to solve. Another way of looking at it is this - if it's not solvable, there is no hope in anything at all, so it fucking has to be. But the first step in solving it is seeing the reality of it. It's no use just having an opinion, or agreeing with the idea. There really is nothing else that can replace that. Also seeing the reality of it in yourself is the proof anyway. So yeah, buckle up, this one's a kick in the fucking teeth. There's a few stages t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/19 12:17 PM |
| -2 | Why menslib is wrong, and why feminism is insufficient to address men's issues. (AKA, why we need the mens rights movement)You're just looking for a way to run away. You're a coward. To the bone. All you do is worship yourself. Construct little ideas like little lego cathedrals to your own glory. Anyone who won't bow down and worship you has nothing to say. That's what you are, that's who you are, that's how you see the world and there's nothing else to you but that. | /r/MensRights | 21/06/19 10:16 PM |
| 1 | Subcommunication: The Hidden Language Of High StatusI can see what you're saying, and as far as this goes, I can see where you're coming from. But as for the deep, secret processes that dominate attraction, the level you are describing is not deep, mate. Not at all. It's maybe one millimetre deeper than the level of logic that you describe. Simply put, there is something else going on, far deeper and more powerful than all of this. It is a very specific and real process which dominates all human behaviour to some degree, and is especially potent … | /r/TheRedPill | 21/06/19 10:04 PM |
| -1 | Why menslib is wrong, and why feminism is insufficient to address men's issues. (AKA, why we need the mens rights movement)What you disagree with is irrelevant. Reality is reality. It works the way it works. And the way it works means that everything you comprehend about this problem is wrong. Disagree all you want. It won't change that. Something has happened to you. Something very real and very specific. The things I say about you are not wrong, they are right. In fact, frankly, I'm putting it in a lot milder terms that I could. The reality of what has happened to you is staggering and extreme. My point about righ… | /r/MensRights | 21/06/19 09:40 PM |
| 1 | The current sexual marketplace facilitates economic and sexual exploitationIt's a hard one to look at. It's not hard to understand, not intellectually, but it's emotionally hard to see. It was very painful for me to see it, all the people I know who've seen it say the same. This is going to sound totally fucking insane. It is. There's no getting away from that. But it's not just some random idea. There is proof, as much as you like. More than you're going to like, to be honest. But before you can test it, you need to understand the idea itself. So let's start there. It… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/19 09:33 PM |
| -1 | Why menslib is wrong, and why feminism is insufficient to address men's issues. (AKA, why we need the mens rights movement)Sweet God. Okay, here it is in crayon. Building your view of the world from opposition is never right... BECAUSE you are not gauging what is real or fake by reference to reality, but by cobbling words and ideas around whatever gets an emotional reaction out of you. You're just building structure around your own reactions. So your insecurities, your weaknesses, your vanities, all that. Anything that can get a rise out of you. Then coat it in fancy words and call it a theory. You tell yourself you… | /r/MensRights | 21/06/19 01:25 PM |
| 1 | The current sexual marketplace facilitates economic and sexual exploitationI was hoping that you might care that what you are doing is futile. There is another process underlying all of this pointless noise about economics. It is a process so vastly more powerful than anything you are considering here that if you don't get your head around it, the rest of your entire life will be lived as a puppet, just as you have been a puppet to it so far. If you are so shallow that all you can do is sneer it away, then you are the one who have to wear the consequences of that. Your… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/19 01:06 PM |
| 1 | Why menslib is wrong, and why feminism is insufficient to address men's issues. (AKA, why we need the mens rights movement)My position is basically, you are doing the same thing the people you hate are doing. What the people you hate are doing is using feminist-themed ideas to create a moral show of their own goodness. That is it. That is what they are doing. They don't care about actual women, they don't care about actual equality. They're just in love with the idea that they do. This is why there's no movement, no change, no listening to other evidence. It's not because they're deaf, it's because they have no inte… | /r/MensRights | 21/06/19 12:55 PM |
| 1 | I thought I wanted a unicorn.OP - Dude, the issue here is this. Every part of every decision you are making begins and ends in your selfishness. All of it. Every part. You are an astoundingly selfish person. It all revolves around you, everything does. It's like the human reality of the person you have in your life is utterly irrelevant. There is no connection between you and her. You have no relationship. This woman is having a relationship with the illusion of you. You don't have a single fuck to give about anything to do… | /r/TheRedPill | 20/06/19 02:13 PM |
| 1 | The word "nice" comes from the root word "nescire" in Latin, which means "to not know"OP: Two things. 1 - Love the vignette. Cool. Nice meaning to not know. That's quite sharp. 2 - Everything else you say is facile. It's facile because your insight into the problem is shallow. You seem to think there's this group of people in control of this who are working to bring down masculinity. It can indeed appear like that. You are lost in that appearance. And the reason you are lost in it is that it gives you fuel for a self-directed show of your own moral glory. The actual reality… | /r/TheRedPill | 20/06/19 01:40 PM |
| 1 | Why menslib is wrong, and why feminism is insufficient to address men's issues. (AKA, why we need the mens rights movement)There is this massive attraction to the idea that if you oppose something that is wrong, you are automatically right. This is not true. The opposite of something wrong is never right, it's just another, different wrong pointing in the opposite direction. That's what's happening here. The study you cite is a staggeringly shallow pile of dross. It's actual 'new intellectual content' is laughably facile and contrived. The entire thing is clearly someone engaged in a self-focused act of moral thea… | /r/MensRights | 20/06/19 01:20 PM |
| 1 | When the fuck can you be vulnerable?OP - the only time you can be completely transparent with all your flaws and insecurities is when you are talking to a woman who is utterly certain that you are a stone-cold badass. If she is certain that you are, she will be utterly delighted to share in this. If she is not, she will see you as a weak man, and although she will be friends with you she will never, never consider you as a potential sexual partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/19 01:01 PM |
| 1 | The current sexual marketplace facilitates economic and sexual exploitationOP, this is total nonsense. What you've done is take a bunch of very shallow ideas from economics, a bunch of very shallow ideas about how humans work, and hash all these labels together so you can look at that pile and tell yourself you're clever. In fact, it's not even that. That would be a huge step forward. The illusion you're building for yourself is that you're even engaging in a basic way with any of the things you're talking about. The interesting thing about this post is that the enti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/19 01:00 PM |
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