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Lmao, I had something like this happen to me in hs once. A girl sort of trolled me telling her friend to go “ask him out” and “tell him how u feel”. Obv I knew what was up so in another class I asked her about it and she was hyper introverted all of a sudden, saying it’s just a joke her friends make with her. I told her something to the effect of it isn’t nice to make such jokes to ugly people, you don’t see me going around and calling the special Ed kids re t ards to their face, right? She legi…
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 09:49 AM
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Ur Ignoring ugly short women who will still breed, plus genetic recombination
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 05:42 AM
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Globally
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 11:47 AM
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I don’t remember how they measured preferences by ethnicity but it was either nessages sent or right swipes. Do u think the cohort just wasn’t representative of the majority(but if most ppl here plan on using apps as their main Avenue..)or that black women intentionally just didnt bother swiping yes on other groups for reasons other than lack of attraction? Idk what a Clarence is, I have to assume someone who fails to assimilate into “black culture” as it exists in the west?
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 07:16 AM
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I thought data from some dating app study found that black women have a preference for black men. Dont recall how this was measured, I think messages sent. There are def going to be fetishists but I don’t think it’s the norm. Then, but this gets a bit weird, there’s the question of posterior fornix positions among ppl of diff ethnicities(highly doubt any studies have been done on this)and variations in penile size(also has conflicting studies, with some identifying a discrepancy between ethnic g…
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 06:33 AM
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We talked about blackpill topics often and he was proud of his dick size, woukd send pics and vids of it
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 01:39 AM
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A bit tangential but I will say, imo dick length is a massive b pill. Certainly u can’t just slap bespoke implants on any face and make it good looking, but certain measurable features r technically easy to change through osteotomies and implants. Even height can be augmented up to 3 inches per segment for ppl willing to undergo the brutality and risky procedure that is LL, sacrificing athleticism or even a normal gait. Penile girth can be changed with fillers. Length can only reliably go up by …
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 01:03 AM
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Suddenly she went from only wanting a relationship and being strictly against fwb to basically being up for anything with him and extremely forward and sexual. He gave me his condolences and we went back to having a laugh, talkint about cocks, the usual.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 12:57 AM
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I must say it was a bit brutal when a girl was talking to me years ago with the intention of wanting to date. This was back when I was 18. Asked my friend to text her from our group chat and seeing how she acted with him vs me was jarring lmao. For reference he was around 6’4”, 8.7 inch penis, very masculine face and body.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 12:51 AM
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I noticed all my comments on one of the subs amiugly get Insta wiped. I inquired with the mods and never heard back. Puzzles me why this happened because u would routinely see rude comments, sexism, and outright insults. Never partook in any of that, I just gave ppl objective assessments and offered surgical advice.
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 05:37 PM
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Socially, so shaming practices and a cultural shift?
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 02:45 AM
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What measures would u take to make the dating market more equitable without violating ppls autonomy?
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 01:19 AM
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Interesting, thanks. I would have jumped to the assumption that u didn’t deem ur bf good enough for that and imposed conditions that u didn’t for previous casual partners, but that was presumptuous on my part. Maybe ur relationship is built on a foundation of genuine mutual physical attraction. Wish u both the best
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 09:55 PM
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I’ve found this odd. Back in the day if someone was deemed unfit in a capitalist system, Ppl would often blame their choices and tell them to work harder, pull themselves up by their bootstraps etc. recently it’s become accepted that the system, as most are, isn’t inherently fair. Ppl understand that there r traits or circumstances outside of ones control that will dictate socioeconomic success. Yet in the dating market, there’s this pervasive view that it must be one personal shortcomings linke…
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 09:53 PM
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Do u mind my asking if you’ve had casual relationships in the past, and if ur relationship with ur bf began as a casual one?
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 09:46 PM
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.. Wut. I commented about surgical obsession and an orthodontist who addressed questions on a platform like this one. I assume I used some word that prompted the auto mod Edit: trying again but tldr. I said thanks ans that u seem alright too. Mentioned how it’s interesting that there’s been a fixation on cosmetic work from spaces like this but it seems like a natural progression from being disillusioned by p u a then trying to dissect appearances. Made mention of an orthodontist who held a q and…
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 06:41 AM
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Tbf I was on track to be a dr and might have performed some of them, but again I think it’s case by case. I’ve seen plenty of ppl with dentofacial abnormalities or those who r good candidates for a specific procedure that would address an overt flaw, lead to better qol. I’ve also seen those who misunderstand what a procedure can do or what it’s intended for, have unrealistic expectations etc
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 06:35 AM
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I think when ppl fixate on it, it can be unhealthy. It’s generally case by case and hard to discern who is obsessed vs who is genuinely a good candidate.. but ig that’s what consultations r for
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 06:32 AM
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Thx. Yeah I don’t rlly wanna be the one to end things, especially since we get along well and I imagine the relationship would be solid if circumstances were diff. Plus I don’t want her to misconstrue things and think I don’t like her anymore. I still feel bad because we usually just hangout at home, hookup, enjoy each other’s company but rarely go out. I’ve been fully transparent with her tho because I don’t want her thinking I’m misrepresenting anything.
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 06:31 AM
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Do u think there is active discrimination against the skin color itself or features that might have a higher incidence rate in other groups(height for instance). If u controlled for all other traits snd just had identical guys with varying lvls of melanin and eye color, do u think jbw would still be relevant? It’s something I’ve considered but fear my approach is kinda solipsistic since I’ve never experienced the other side
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 06:20 AM
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I just think rather than a combative debate, ppl should approach it as a collaborative effort to examine the dating landscape, see diff ppls perspectives on matters and whatnot. I def believe in what I consider the blackpill to be, basically just physical traits having by far the most weight in dating and sex, and impacting other traits, genetic probabilism, and application of the Pareto principle. I dislike it when any convo devolves into vitriol or sexism, disliking any large group of ppl whet…
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 05:49 AM
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U could try the gender swap feature on some apps but it wouldn’t mirror dimorphism. So if u lack it as a man, ur woman version would prob be inflated, where as if ur very dimorphic I think the woman filter would undersell u if that makes sense.
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 04:30 AM
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Ah yes, the bullet intracranial implant. It’s a very quick procedure and doesn’t require sedation
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 03:49 AM
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If ur not having nocturnal erections or u think ur eq has suffered, I’d inquire about viagra or caverject just to ensure ur size doesn’t change. Prolonged periods without proper erections leads to tissue atrophy. I think it’s reversible but still, better to be proactive. I haven’t rlly used anything yet since my hair has been stable since teens and both genders in my fam appear to have the same hairline I do retained into geriatric years. I do like shampoos with keto. In them tho like revita.
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 02:50 AM
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Sounds like a thorough plan. If I may comment on a few things: -obv u should see a max fac and get a cbct scan but I doubt u have unilateral recession. It would be a nightmare to fix that if it’s true and impacts the area around ur alveolar process. What u described sounds like a cant in ur bite, could be from ramus asymmetry which can be fixed. U could use a graft as a buttress from ur iliac crest to lengthen the deficient side but most surgeons would address it with a wraparound implant. Look …
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 02:29 AM
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Fair enough, I hope the results are satisfactory
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 10:27 PM
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It could change ur zygomatic breadth a little but we are talking about changes in the range of 1-2 mm. It won’t rlly be noticeable. U can look at some studies done where they superimpose cbct scans pre and post op with color gradients to show u the diff. It’s kind of cool, u can see the extent of skeletal changes and the type of rotation that takes place
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 10:15 PM
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Idk, my family consists of orthos and ppl in plastics. I was en route to become one nyself. Invis is wildly popular due to the aesthetic short term advantages. Patients prefer it and providers often charge more for it than traditional brackets. Not saying it can’t fix ur malocclusion but clear aligners r generally best suited for anterior work
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 10:13 PM
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Yeah they would use surgical assistance for someone ur age. Piezo device to slice ur palate in half along the suture line and score ur zygomatic area to reduce resistance
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 10:10 PM
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Invis isn’t a great option for anything other than minor anterior crowding tbh. If u aren’t overly concerned with the short term aesthetic and/or have more complex, posterior issues, I’d just get braces. Some orthos prefer self litigating ones, others adamantly claim that traditional ones allow for greater precision. Could also use lipus and certain nanometers of light to reduce treatment time(they alter osteoblast and osteoclast activity)
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 10:09 PM
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Around 30, yeah. Mse is much cheaper tho
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 10:04 PM
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I’d recommend ease or surgically assisted mse over sarpe
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 09:56 PM
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Quack quack. Make sure not to overdo it and that ur given proper glucocorticoids after. I’ve seen great rhino results turn awful 1 year post op from scar tissue pulling things taut, even from big names like frankel. Good luck man
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 09:55 PM
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Yeah. Sadly it’s just diff variations of applying traction force atm. Some ppl have experimented with controlled priapism but it seems risky. I haven’t seen convincing evidence that lig cut produces anything that traction can’t, and it ruins ur erection angle
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 09:43 PM
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The issue with redpoll is that it’s foundation is behavior/personality and game that u forcefully try to alter will yield results. It seems like a recipe for disaster if u don’t already have positive physical traits, in which case u would have already developed the behavioral traits organically that red pillers want u to adopt, barring some sort of psychiatric condition with low incidence rates. Eating healthy and working out is good advice for everyone. Prob linked to positive neurotransmitters…
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 09:15 PM
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Ppl generally cite personality because it makes them appear less shallow and maybe they view it as a trait linked to agency, so it’s a fair justification to them that’s congruent with the just world fallacy. A lot of ppl seem to forget that personality is a pretty heritable trait if ur talking about big 5, and a lot of behavior is dependent on ur looks through a social feedback loop. A deformed gnome is not going to receive the same feedback and experiences as a tall handsome person. Their behav…
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 09:09 PM
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What portion of mate selection do u think is some innate visceral reaction to someone’s current appearance vs consideration for offspring, whether subconscious or not? If a woman had to pick one partner for both sex and having kids with, woukd she be more likely to pick the “surgerycel” or the crippled burn victim who naturally looked good prior? At what point will crispr make this largely moot? Beyond regulations, I think the issue atm is not knowing which combo of genes results in x trait. We …
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 05:43 PM
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Getting a gf isn’t hard, esp after a certain age. Having regular casual sex is reserved for the top percsnfile of men tho. I wonder if relationships will decline in the west like they did in Japan and sex will become further commodified. Over there iirc, half or more than half of ppl(both genders)haven’t dated and don’t intend to. I assume women just accept casual sex with the best looking men while the rest of the men routinely visit soaplands and pinsaros.
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 05:08 PM
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They r prob resentful of the market inequality and seeing women within their percentile or rarity have access to a lifestyle they can’t. And/or if and when those same women attempt to date them at a certain age, only to demand diff criteria.
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 04:35 PM
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Hey, I have little interest in who u r or if ppl from the sub know u in some capacity, I’d just like to know ur penis size if that’s quite alright.
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 10:51 PM
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I talk to my gf relatively often. A couple friends. Don’t rlly talk to service workers these days since I rarely go out anymore
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 10:48 PM
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I suppose halos would be eyes, high placed zygos, phenotype, and hair. Main failo is lack of dimorphism. Height and penis are avg or mildy above at approx 5’11” and 6.5
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 10:45 PM
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She could be with him for commitment after she had fun with better looking men for casual sex, maybe he provides financial utility. Could be a number of things and u don’t see how the relationship dynamic works behind closed doors
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 10:43 PM
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Tbf u set ur location to Brazil. They might view u as an economic prospect and want to Ltr. The behavior is similar tho with early 20s participants when someone rather handsome is involved, ~6’2+, with a nice penis, maybe 7.5+ in bpel and in excess of 5.5 girth
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 05:05 PM
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I believe that rehab room guy has a discord. There used to be a lot more little niche social circles on there but over time ppl moved on, grew older. Can’t believe it’s almost 2022. Still feels like 2020
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 04:30 PM
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Likewise. Life can be fragile af whether you’ve lost ur health, are born without necessary tools for thriving, into poverty, boneless without the prospect for validation or connection, whatever it may be. I’ll happily shitpost and share some insights while I’m here tho from my bed. Imagine a mason verger situation from silence of the lambs sequel(he’s just living in his bed basically surrounded by monitors showing latest news and market reports).. minus the moral derangements he had and excessiv…
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 05:35 AM
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It isn’t even about blackpill stuff or sex tbh, I don’t have many issues getting matches or offers on tinder depending on the location. I don’t wanna expand on it but it’s health related for me. Had something rare happen(which tbh for me is par for the course, it feels like I’m a personification of Murphy’s law in many ways lol)and docs didn’t help when they should have, committed medical negligence, now I don’t see much of a future and every day is p bleak. It’s unusual for me to leave the conf…
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 05:21 AM
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I assume saiga is a type of bullet? I voted that one. At this point I’m just waiting to die and can’t rlly enjoy anything. It’s enjoyable when I can sleep for long periods of time
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 04:53 AM
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Seems too stressful to deal with, I’d just wish them the best in their future endeavors and block lol
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 04:14 AM
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Bpel x eg?
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 04:04 AM
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It’s possible she is socially anxious tbf, but if she refuses to do it for even a few seconds without speaking, just as a means to ensure she’s legit, then yeah I agree 100 percent. I’ve had instances where girls on tinder wanted to do video chat to make sure I wasn’t a catfish and typically was hesitant because I’m the type of person who sweats bullets when the phone rings and lets it go to voicemail, lmfao. I always relented in the end tho and did it for just a few secs, said hi then hung up
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 04:01 AM
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I doubt anyone here has never spoken to a woman lmao, if anyone claims that they r just being hyperbolic for comedic effect. P sure multiple ppl here have had relationships. U should make a poll to see what the split is between those with exp v without and age
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 03:57 AM
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Is it third or first person perspective
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 02:52 AM
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Lmfao. That’s wild. Soon we will have shows where it’s just naked men standing in place with their erect penises on display. An elderly tailor will stumble over and measure all of them with his tape. Or nude women having their vaginas measured on mris. Beyond me why anyone would willingly go on such a show, as either a genital displayer or a genital observer
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 08:54 PM
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Is this real lol? What a bizarre show
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 08:25 PM
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He had djs, blepharoplasty, and custom implants. Had some hookups and relationships but nothing consistent or long term for years. Prob got tired of making vids or ran out of topics.
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 08:00 AM
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Nothing. Ppl should be allowed to do what they want with their bodies and such a service would allow for a dignified exit.
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 07:59 AM
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Ian somerhalder, Chris carmack, Henry cavil, Sean o pry, James marsden(all facially and at their prime)
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 07:36 AM
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If u could, woukd u want to return to a bluepill view of the world but retain specific parts of blackpill? Ones pertaining to increasing ur physical attrwciness specifically.
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 07:13 AM
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Oral min? Doesn’t it alter collagen and elastin production/location? With fin I think u can take like 1/3 the usual dose with minimal loss of efficacy. There r also more novel topicals out there u could look into like RU.
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 07:12 AM
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Prob depressed due to medical tragicomical events. Feel tired and sleepy
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 06:26 AM
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Depends on the area/backgrounds of potential partners. Honestly I think the whole Jbw thing is overplayed and conflated with socioeconomic discrepancies that would better explain any success. I won’t deny some ppl will fetishize Eurocentric features but I think it’s more of a niche and not some widespread thing.
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 06:25 AM
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I stumbled upon his channel and watched(listened to)to some vids. It was sort of fun at first but over time he would go through these cyclical motions and much of his stories seemed rinse and repeat, at least thematically. Hopefully he isn’t consuming slop anymore, lol. I remember he went on a strict diet and lost weight but claimed his face remained bloated
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 06:23 AM
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Ur mind hates ur body so much that it wants to disconnect from it and not recognize it as a housing of its identity :( Cant say I relate. While there are features I’m unhappy with, I generally at least identify with how I look overall and my phenotype. U could always seek out cosmetic surgery if the flaws that bother u are fixable
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 03:26 AM
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No worries, I don’t take issue with polite or constructive criticism, tho idk how actionable it is since any arrogance or presumption is unintentional. Not sure if it’s just a tendency to segue a discussion into something else as u say, which honestly I find annoying when I see it elsewhere(eg ur convo with the op. Not saying u started that since it sounds like he did from what u describe, but the way it devolved into a combative back and forth)or if it’s something about the writing structure it…
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 03:23 AM
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A.) iq seems to be the focal point itt B.) it’s Reddit, I’m not writing an sat essay. Was going to ask what the point of contention eveb was in the link because it’s way too long for me to scroll through and read it all, but honestly this sub seems to just be vitriolic exchanges between ppl with biases. I thought, and clearly erroneously so, that it was gonna be a place for polite exchanges between ppl with diff perspectives and life experiences bht ig not. Out of curiosity tho what about my wri…
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 02:31 AM
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What useless bickering itt lol. Couldn’t even read the exchange linked because my geriatric cracked phone gave up and Reddit crashed. As far as iq is concerned/to address a couple comments i saw itt, it is the best measure of intelligence we have and correlates better than any one metric iirc with academic ability and future income, but it’s obv not perfect. U can also have instances where someone has wild disparities between sub tests making the fsiq useless. Cant rlly assess what someone’s sco…
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 12:54 AM
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It would be nice if there were better options for penile lengthening
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 02:58 PM
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It was a joke, lighten up
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 02:55 PM
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Sub ideal but statistically above avg. u can check that calc site for the percentile(the averages there r based off multiple studies and r in line with most of the studies I’ve seen that used decently sized cohorts and had an actual professional measure them afger chemically inducing an erection).
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 07:15 AM
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I always make sure to follow similar rules on my first dates. Typically I will arrive in ripped, stain covered clothes. There’s usually a stench hanging around me and I make a point of mentioning I’m homeless and have been recently evicted from my dumpster by a pack of handsome raccoons. My anti lifts create the illusion of an almost dwarf tier stature(exoskeleton under my torn clothes that contorts my body awkwardly and puts stress on my joints) and i bring along a written diagnosis of a micro …
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 07:11 AM
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Not especially unless u want to discuss penises with me. It’s an acquired taste
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 06:36 AM
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I don’t think that’s why they r upset tho. Has more to do with how they are treated/what’s expected of them vs better looking guys. As such I think settling tends to be looks based for women and situational (casual sex vs ltr)for men.
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 06:35 AM
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I have little doubt men would behave like women in the aggregate if market conditions were inverted. Everyone is going to be self serving. I’d argue the settling works a little diff from what I’ve observed. Women tend to settle for men who will commit to them but aren’t as physically attractive as guys who would have casual sex with them, while men will settle for a relationship when they would prefer a fwb(how much of this is actually preferring casual sex vs wanting to feel validated and know …
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 06:23 AM
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Fair, I’d agree with most all of this. I think it can be extended to other examples like the guac sale(the ppl growing them prob perform that work out of necessity, weren’t born wealthy enough or with a high enough iq to do other things). Same with most blue collar work like factories, custodians etc. the vast majority of ppl likely take advantage of others situations and different market conditions. The geomaxxers tend to fall into two camps and there’s prob correlation with age and the age of …
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 06:16 AM
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Lmao, well u have 2 present. One is doijg the obo while the neurosurgeon is on the side in case shit goes awry because ur brain is exposed during the procedure. Seems like a good opportunity to perform A neural stem cell transplant while ur in such a position if u fell victim to diffuse neuronal loss from infection, autoimmune disorder, neurodegen etc. two birds one stone, fix the acquired brain injury and unsightly alien esque eyes in one sitting while the surgeons prob discuss their recent gol…
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 05:07 AM
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Those dark triad traits are only attractive if they r paired with a handsome face and tall stature. More men who fit into those physical categories might exhibit them due to either social feedback and basically being “allowed” to act that way, or due to prenatal and pubertal androgen exposure(if it’s causal in producing those traits. It also causes dimorphism and higher fwhr, plus dictates genital size to a degree, hence why avg size women encounter for casual sex is prob larger than avg of the …
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 05:03 AM
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Most people aren’t going to be inclined to get invasive procedures. There’s this idea that terms like looksmax going mainstream have incentivized ppl to go out and seek cosmetic jaw surgery, implants etc. idk if I buy it. There’s also the issue that most procedures r meant to address a flaw. U can’t just take an average face that looks like some composite of hundreds of faces superimposed and turn it into a very handsome one. Some features r harder to alter than others, and u can’t change someon…
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 05:00 AM
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I don’t I’d have to search it and try to find some literature again. This was years ago but I recall reading about it when I was interested in the field in general(moreso as a future career route... my ipd is good and I’m not itching to have a neurosurgeon sweating his balls off hoping he doesn’t have to intervene while he watches the other surgeon rearrange my face like a japanese puzzle box). There was one case report where the optic nerve was compromised, I think due to it being pushed and po…
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 04:38 AM
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I don’t disagree that the results “geomaxxers” get are often due to moving to a country where their socioeconomic percentile skyrockets(some instances could be due to fetishization of certain Eurocentric traits but I think that’s overblown, or just Lower competition if locals are significantly shorter and there aren’t many transplanted ppl there)but I want to ask, where does the line get drawn when it comes to someone taking advantage of or exploiting another, assuming everyone involved is an ad…
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 04:32 AM
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I’m not super well versed when it comes to LL, but from my understanding there is a risk of future complications down the road like arthritis and nerve issues. It seems to impact potential function more than jaw surgery(generally the nerve damage that ur likely to encounter won’t impact function, just results in a numb feeling around the chin or mandible. Blindness from osteotomies is exceedingly rare. Obo is the most intensive and iirc requires a neuro surgeon to be present, but I remember read…
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 04:23 AM
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They rarely are in my exp(blackpill as defined by a probabilistic world view and weight placed on looks). Most that I spoke with were engineers, investment bankers, or students. Generally well adjusted and personable. Most were engaging and prob bright given their backgrounds. Decent mix of men and women too.
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 04:18 AM
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So much of ur reply is just a long winded insult laden novela, come on. It’s exactly why I started my question to u with stating im not interested in getting into a back and forth shouting match. A lot of what u wrote honestly seems like projection(I don’t think I use “fancy words” needlessly, I try to be succinct when I can, meanwhile u write novels in circles trying to assert superiority and insult anyone u can only to cover urself with this veneer of it being unintentional.. ur writing style …
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 12:47 AM
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U come off very defensive lol when it was a question in good faith lol. Also, I’m not an incel, but I assume u meant the sub in general. Depending on the topic ur discussing, u absolutely can’t juwt know someone is intelligent. So u prefer deep meaningful convos which frankly is more knowledge oriented. Idk, I think u have a myopic way of trying to assess someone’s fluid intellect dynamically and conflate it with other traits, but fine. Yes, crystallized intelligence is accrued knowledge while f…
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 02:17 AM
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I tried tinder and had a lot of matches in areas outside of the US(in the US there were like 20 or so but most didn’t engage when I messaged)with many girls messaging me first, but I quickly realized I’m perceived as relationship material rather than casual sex material. Doesn’t help that I’m not super dimorphic, shorter than 6’2”, and don’t have an 8 inch penis. Relationships just feel exhausting and draining at this point, almost to the point of inducing mental turmoil. You are expected to be …
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 04:36 PM
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tf. Imagine having to scream out captain crunch and fruit loops while grown men assault u..
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 04:26 PM
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Not inclined to get into a shouting match with u like the one u just had with the other guy, and while I certainly doubt ur sexually attracted to intelligence in a vacuum(mayhe u want to believe this due to perceiving it as somehow more noble, idk)but I want to ask, what facets of intelligence do u believe ur attracted to? Conversations in which someone is well versed on a topic?(crystallized intelligence rather than fluid). How do u go about ascertaining a partners intelligence short of asking …
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 05:14 AM
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P sure I read some studies demonstrating that iq is negatively correlated with age of virginity loss and partner count. Ppl who claim to be sapiosexuals r just trying to embrace a niche, have perceived uniqueness or individuality, or consider it some sort of trend or a strategy to filter out some guys that just want to hookup. Ppl aren’t lining up to fuck 140+ iq men. U won’t see women gawking at 5’7” below avg, zero dimorphism guys coding at Jane street or studying string theory at cal tech, lm…
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 01:15 AM
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U are relying on self reported data. Come on, I shouldn’t have to point out how silly that is. It’s like the massive disparities between penis studies that r self reported vs measured by a medical professional with chemically induced erections. Yes, everyone I’ve spoken with whether from the Us, central Eu, Asia etc has engaged in a decent amount of casual sex(women). U can argue the selection bias since I mostly meet these ppl on such apps, but that’s the main pool for ppl post college age with…
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 09:59 PM
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I don’t have any stats for this and u can’t rely on self reporting, but from my experiences and having relationships and many friends who are girls? A large portion. I think hookup/casual sex culture is pretty rampant these days globally.
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 09:46 PM
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I’m aware of the gender ratios on tinder but u have to consider that the majority of ppl now find their partners on these apps(u can search for this, it’s over 50 or 60 percent last I checked and dwarfs any other venue). As far as walking outside to observe couples, that’s silly because it’s looking at things from the outside and through a myopic lens. I have no idea what the relationship is like behind closed doors, idk if he’s a “beta bux” as ppl hwre refer to those men, idk if he wasn’t good …
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 09:38 PM
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Tinder match rates r 5 percent, Pareto principle and historical mating rates support 20, okcupid women’s review of men’s attractiveness placed something like 85 percent in the ugly or perceived below avg category, I’m sure if u look at filters used for heights it falls around top ~10 as well
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 08:51 PM
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Thx
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 08:03 PM
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Ur whole post was discussing the bad boy v nice guy tropes. They will all be viewed favorably if the person in question is physically attractive, and it won’t matter in the slightest if they aren’t. Doesn’t have to be a gnome under a bridge but rather 90+ percent of the male population.
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 07:47 PM
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Good luck lol. U won’t be competing with locals so ur increased height percentile may not net u what u anticipate. In these types of places there are a small group of foreigners who are tall, well endowed, and attractive, and girls all gravitate towards them. Maybe if u go to a very small rural village without electricity???
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 07:31 PM
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Chiming in here regarding using couples as examples. We rlly don’t know anything about their dynamic behind closed doors or pertinent details. Ppl on subs like these always point to couples they see through a surface lvl vantage pt as evidence of one thing or another. Id much rather this shift to using casual sex as a litmus test for ones attractiveness.
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 07:25 PM
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Most ppl find their partners through apps these days. Even higher proportion of casual encounters. In this day and age as a young person, tinder is real life for all intents and purposes. Even moreso if u are in ur 20s but out of college/no longer in academia and haven’t retained a local social circle with women in it. What are ur realistic options(not attending some weird social class or cooking class that will attract maladjusted ppl)? Tinder, bumble, a club(more emphasis placed on height here…
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 07:22 PM
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It’s funny because u get this niche of ppl nowadays claiming to be sapiosexual. Yet they are likely too low iq to even pass judgement on or ascertain how bright someone is. Are they getting wet for crystallized or fluid intelligence? Lol. Plus, men with higher iqs have had fewer sexual partners and lose their virginities far later than their peers.
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 07:18 PM
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Try adopting a bad boy persona or displaying dark triad traits with an unattractive face and short stature. Report back to us how long it took for u to become socially ostracized or a girl to call the cops, lol.
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 07:13 PM
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May I ask how many casual relationships u had before u met ur husband? Like ons, fwb esque stuff
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 07:06 PM
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Would like to add in a couple points -halo effect. Someone’s characteristics will be very differently received based on their outward appearance and the resulting attraction created -introjection. When someone is attracted to a person, they will often adopt their interests and certain personality quirks, although mimicking ones text or speech idiosyncrasies right off the bat and lovebombing can be indicators of borderline personality disorder. -part of me suspects ppl like to bring up personalit…
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 06:43 PM
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It’s often ppl clinging to just world fallacious thinking, wanting to punch down and gaslight those in unfavorable positions, or those that conflate cause and effect. I think it’s always worth noting on subs like these, prob this one that I just found even moreso than shortguys, that while I think the blackpill narrative of genetic probabilism and physical traits being the end all be all for attraction, hypergamy etc are all true, I disavow any sexism or hate. It seems a lot of ppl want to also …
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 01:06 AM
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I mean... yeah but it’s sort of obvious. Genome and early environment = your life barring some sort of accident or illness in adulthood. Genetic probabilism and your family situation/wealth, location, early experiences determine your life.
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 12:57 AM
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I’m entering late 20s but most ppl i match with on tinder r early to mid 20s. It shocked me when a 24 year old questioned why I was looking for something casual and didn’t understand why I’m not rdy to settle down yet. We spoke for a while and she has a lot of exp already(lots of f buddies, has slept with around 37 ppl)but I barely have more than I did in 9th grade and haven’t rlly changed as a person since then lol.
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 12:53 AM
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Which tier schools? Deerfield and Ivy level?
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 12:48 AM
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Physical, sexual attraction? No, not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 05:46 PM
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Yeah, it’s not that it was sexy but the mating landscape was very diff back then. There was a YouTube vid that touched upon this and the trend towards the “e boy” look, mentioned the mating habits of walruses or elephant seals and how it rewarded the biggest and strongest... because the males literally forced their own harems. In modern society, it isn’t the same(this particular video was used to mock men who believe lifting weights plays a large role in attractiveness for women, but it’s within…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:06 AM
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Of course. If she didn’t want you as a casual option, chances are you are a safety option and settled for(unless she’s never had casual sex before but that’s a rarity these days for gen z)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 08:36 PM
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Women want tall, attractive, well endowed men. Not sure what gave u the idea that money creates any sort of attraction beyond utility.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 08:30 PM
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Yeah ofc, why not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 08:28 PM
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being put into the bf zone and rejected for friends with benefits zone is the most psychologically damaging to the self esteem
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 04:51 PM
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Yes, after they have experience, learn what they like and dislike, and it’s often with someone who was attracted to them enough to have something casual at first. Ur very premise says it(guys that r too ugly to compete in the hookup market and r relegated to relationships. Not by choice but rather necessity).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 11:47 PM
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I know but the way in which it happens seems to remove any aspects of the relationship that would make it validating or enjoyable. The guy is just there for sex and feels having to be a bf is a chore in this transaction, prob feels hurt that his gf treated other guys far better in the past. The girl wants someone who actually wants to date her and is interested in more than just sex but finds herself in a transaction where she has sex in exchange for commitment and a bf, with someone less attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 11:42 PM
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The thing with this is, they r only agreeing because they can’t engage in hookup culture. The woman in such a relationship likely won’t feel validated if she’s aware that he’s only in the relationship for sex and would have rather been hookup material. I wanted to make a post about this here since it seems like an appropriate place. I’ve commented more in depth on this in other subs and it always seem to reach most controversial comment with little engagement. I think the vast majority of ltrs, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 11:25 PM
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Ok. From my exp, the dating scene is the same anywhere, the only thing that might change is someone’s relative value.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:28 PM
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Never said they r all impoverished living in huts, and I have been to these countries and all over North America, Eu, and Asia. I just disagree that it has much if anything to do with culture or patriarchal norms. Again, all the ppl I know r very exposed to western culture, whether it be Czechia, Poland, Philippines, etc. hookup culture is just as rampant as it is here(US). I think on avg when these men travel there, their net worths in terms of local percentile skyrocket, and they can leverage …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:17 PM
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No one of either gender I know irl denies that only physical features Matter in 99+ percent of cases and that casual sex is a better benchmark for men when it comes to “success” or being desired, while the same is true for women and commitment/relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 03:56 PM
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Thing is, if the relationship dichotomy is already transactional, the guy would be inclined to just place himself in the most advantageous local economy and see escorts in less expensive areas of Eu, or see a sugar baby in some area like Venezuela.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 03:52 PM
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Her physical attractiveness relative to his and whether or not their percentile is similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 03:48 PM
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1.) it always makes me giggle when ppl think going to third world nations abroad means they will enter some weird panacea of tradwives or a time warp back to pre women’s suffrage dating landscape. I have lots of friends from some of the popular destinations who r women, and they engage in hookup culture, fuckbuddies etc just as much as my friends in the states and Eu do. 4.) true. In the end it’s just about ur physical traits as percentiles within ur local community. Most of those guys rho(the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 03:48 PM
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No one knows how many ppl someone else has been with and most ppl routinely lie about that anyway, so unless ur planning on doing some sort of convoluted messed up investigation, ur never going to know. I’ve had friends who were virgins who I know lied about that with potential partners, girls who drastically lowered the number of guys they’ve been with or obfuscated their partaking in hookup culture, men who hid their past experiences with escorts, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 03:40 PM
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Ur focusing too much on superfluous traits that sometimes manifest as a result of positive feedback derived from ones attractiveness. It all comes down to physical traits unless u have some bizarre deficiency with incidence rates of less than 1 in 100.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 03:36 PM
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