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For all she loathes men, she kiiiinda looks like one.
/r/EverydayMisandry07/12/25 06:48 AM
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I assume you mean something like charisma/charm. I can be charming when I’m already friends or get along with someone, but it’s very hard to be like that when I’m just approaching someone, especially a woman I find cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:51 PM
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And who the fuck said you couldn’t? I just asked for you to stop pretending men who are single are some sort of evil or pathetic people in some way. Also judging by your flair, why do you even care about this subject? You don’t want anything to do with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:36 PM
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Lol. So not getting laid is a moral failing? Damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:34 PM
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Yeah sure. Physical appearance is pretty much a non factor in what kind of person someone is. So, dear women, please stop saying you choose men based on moral reasons, and that you reject a guy based on him not being enough of a good person. Admit you can be simply looking to take your chances with a guy you find attractive and/or superficially charming. Don’t shame us for struggling to find a partner as if it surely was for some fault of our own.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 12:59 PM
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That is true as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:29 AM
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Tbf, many women also think men live on easy mode. It’s called not bothering to understand people with different experiences from yours, which isn’t limited to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 10:22 PM
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The eye contact thing can indeed be worked on. The humor is subjective and it’s a matter of finding someone compatible with yours. The charisma… I’m afraid that thing is more inherent to each person: you either have it or you don’t. I don’t know if you can train yourself to be charismatic if you are not so from the get go.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 01:44 PM
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And that’s totally fine, you should reject whoever you don’t want to be. I just don’t like when some women pretend that whenever a guy can’t get laid it’s because he’s not good enough in some area. He could simply not be the type of the girls that rejected him, it doesn’t have to be that he’s a “bad person”.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 01:07 PM
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Or, here’s an idea: how about women simply tell the guy they like, that they like him?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 04:59 PM
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Thanks for the honesty. I just wish some women (not you) stop pretending that they reject guys based on moral reasons or some BS. A nice guy that can’t get laid isn’t deep down some evil creep, he’s likely just not very handsome, or charming or has visible insecurities. He’s likely a perfectly okay dude. We have to stop finding reasons to shit on guys who for whatever reason can’t get a partner. Let’s limit the shitting to actual creeps and abusers (who very often DO find partners).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 04:56 PM
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It’s kinda tricky and messy. I think it would be nice for men and women to approach each other more or less in equal amounts, rather than men overwhelmingly approaching often coming around as pestering (either deliberately or accidentally) and women merely giving “hints” (which aren’t even universal, what’s a hint for a woman is simply being friendly for another). Buuuuuuut it’s not gonna happen anytime soon. The truth remains men have lower standards and a greater desire to pursue women, at lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 05:51 PM
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Happy day dudes!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/25 01:41 PM
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Yeah but more often than not men grouping together is demonized, as apparently there’s such a big danger of us becoming vile misogynists if there aren’t women around to control us or approving of us. Funny how women only groups aren’t believed to be in danger of becoming misandrists.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 05:32 PM
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For some “go to therapy” kinda has become a more politically correct way of saying “man up, don’t bother me with your shit”.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 05:29 PM
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You are right. But as men we must NOT play that game. If a woman is being a womanchild playing “hard to get” and throwing fake “no”s, that’s HER problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 04:52 AM
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I do appreciate people with good intentions, especially in places with toxic tendencies like the internet lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 12:12 AM
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As a guy that lost his virginity in his 20s, I appreciate this comment. I’m sorry if you got some negative reactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 11:38 PM
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Which you are sort of doing dudette.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 07:45 PM
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Finally someone reasonable ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 06:54 PM
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Probably things she’d define like “the bare minimum” like: Being completely emotionally and financially stable (even if she isn’t). Being 100% supportive to her problems but not needing to vent about his own. Showing the “right” type of vulnerability, that being the one that makes her feel important and loved, not about any insecurities or problems of his own. Things like “I love you so much, I don’t know what I did to deserve you!”. Long story short, “being her rock”.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 06:54 PM
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OP, he likely read that, and he’s answering to your post. You quoting yourself like it’s a gotcha… it’s not the gotcha you think it is. You’ve been doing it since your other post where you claimed you cared so much about men (only to then do this post, in which you dismiss men asking for help as pathetic crybabies undeserving of it).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 06:50 PM
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I’m sure you think you just dropped a super truth bomb here but this is extremely dissonant to what actually happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 06:46 PM
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I only vaguely remember one instance (so I should have said “one woman”, my bad) and it was a few months ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 03:15 AM
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Okay so then it’s more accurate to say some feminists support custody rights, just like some support mental health awareness for men. Others simply consider men oppressors that have to be knocked down a peg. Feminism as a whole isn’t sympathetic towards men. We are the beneficiaries of an evil system as far as they are concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 10:22 PM
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But saying most women or feminists in general fight against men’s equality is just not true. Plenty of feminists care about men’s mental health, custody rights, and toxic masculinity, they just frame it as part of fixing gender roles overall, not competing with women’s issues. When have feminists cared about custody rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 05:58 PM
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I’ve read women in here saying a middle aged man that hasn’t married is likely to be a pedophile smh.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 05:55 PM
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Telling boys to shut the fuck up and learn rather than addressing what is wrong with them with empathy and attention, is quite worse than “not coddling boys”. Were you not against toxic masculinity and men not expressing their feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 05:23 PM
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Intersectional feminists have frequently brought up discrimination in the justice system. Yeah, but in matters of race most likely. In a “black man is judged more harshly than white man” way. Not in a “man is judged more harshly than woman” way. Although you can correct me if I’m wrong with a source.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 05:04 PM
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You are increasingly moving from “I’m sympathetic to men” towards “men evil women good” territory with every comment you make. For all your supposed sympathy towards men I think you also feel some disdain for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 04:57 PM
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I wonder if they then pause and try to politically correct themselves with “but not gay or black men!”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/25 10:36 PM
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True that, although I’d say men are more easily replaceable romantically speaking. Women do have an easier time finding sexual or romantic partners due to men’s lower standards. Now I’m not saying they can easily find GOOD partners. Just partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 07:35 PM
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Well I wish the average person online had your consistency rather than switching the criteria depending on the argument. I’ve seen plenty of people dismiss MRAs or simple advocates for men as a group of evil incels simply because of a minority of lunatics.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 05:19 PM
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That’s the problem though. Ask two feminists something and they’ll likely give you different answers. It’s inaccurate to say “THIS and only THIS is what feminism entails”. There are feminists empathetic to men who simply want everyone to have better lives free of gender roles. There are feminists who loathe men either out of bad experiences with them or out of too much time in echo chambers. There are feminists who, while not part of the second group, are quite tolerant of them. Your experience …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 03:22 PM
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That’s the problem though. Ask two feminists something and they’ll likely give you different answers. It’s inaccurate to say “THIS and only THIS is what feminism entails”. There are feminists empathetic to men who simply want everyone to have better lives free of gender roles. There are feminists who loathe men either out of bad experiences with them or out of too much time in echo chambers. There are feminists who, while not part of the second group, are quite tolerant of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 03:22 PM
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Would you tolerate people saying something like “keep the kids away from women!” because mothers kill their kids more often than fathers?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 03:18 PM
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Do you think the many men telling stories about how the women in their lives, despite begging them to open up, acted all disgusted and lost respect for them after they did open up, are lying or are somehow the bad guys of their stories?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 01:15 PM
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“There isn’t a men loneliness epidemic, just a male accountability epidemic/male loser epidemic”. “Men are trash”. “Kill all men”. “When a woman accuses a man of SA her, believe her until she’s proven wrong. Better to believe a liar than a rapist.” What do you think of those statements?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 01:07 PM
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“Men should cry more”… but only with the amount and timing comfortable for women, and for the right reasons like loving their GF/wives/children so much and feeling not good enough for them. Otherwise it’s “emotional labor” and “women aren’t your therapists”.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 01:02 PM
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You know that a person can hate x group without explicitly saying they hate said group right? Many misogynists, racists, homophobes etc, probably don’t think of themselves as bigots. The same is true for feminists that hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 12:56 PM
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Male feminists, similarly to white “anti racists” are sometimes quiiiiiiite insufferable. It’s because they are constantly trying to prove that they are “one of the good ones”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/25 12:50 PM
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I just saw the Tinmen post and this… character. Behind that smug self righteousness and parroting of callous misandrist talking points, there must be a deeply self hating guy desperate for approval from women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/25 12:48 PM
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Let me guess: you think that feminists that spout disdain or hatred towards men are either isolated anomalies, “punching up” and thus justified, or lashing out at the evil patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 12:35 PM
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In my opinion both men and women show their most asshole selves with other men and women respectively. Maybe some competition shit going around.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:45 PM
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Be honest, you’d likely be saying something like “girls, don’t settle for any less than this, this is the bare minimum!” if this had been a guy talking about how he intends to take care of his GF/wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:18 PM
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While I’m not agreeing with OP, it’s also true the reverse happens often. In feminist and progressive circles, men as a whole are blamed for the evil actions of some towards women and expected to somehow be able to micromanage the whole gender into being good. This is just the other side of the coin.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 03:07 PM
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And yet men should micromanage behavior across all men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 01:17 PM
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“Feminism is for men too” is a half hearted talking point to lure men into the movement, but not sincere. Feminism is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 02:09 AM
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I struggle to understand why you feel so strongly about women who condemn men for abusing and raping women. If the hyperbole of "all men" is the problem, then surely you must have noticed how often men use "all women" when saying women are gold-diggers, whores, bad drivers, irrational, emotional, stupid, and so much more. And I’m sure you loathe men who use those “all women” examples you mention. Why can’t you disapprove of the “all men” hyperbole too?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 02:06 AM
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I’m usually against calling women the C-word but holy shit she deserved it after such an awful and callous response. Screw her.
/r/EverydayMisandry22/10/25 02:26 PM
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I’m fine with feminism not prioritizing men’s issues. I would just like feminists to stop pretending “feminism is for everyone”. It’s not, it’s for women. And if it benefits men, it’s completely by accident. Remember that we are the “oppressors” as far as they are concerned. And especially, I’d like feminists to stop having the gal of stating that the only valid way of addressing men’s problems is via a feminist lens. That’s fuckin insane.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/25 05:56 PM
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Let’s not sink to their level. Hating a gender is never okay.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/25 11:52 AM
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I guess it started out for necessity. In prehistoric times, males were the ones send to hunt dangerous animals for the tribe to eat. Females were left with the kids and collecting fruits and plants. Boys couldn’t be raised to be soft, nice and vulnerable. Leaving that aside, I do think men have a slight stronger drive to have sex biologically speaking, because generally speaking, male mammals try to have as much descendants as possible, whereas female mammals try to have the best possible descen…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 06:04 PM
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Because they have more opportunities to do so as the physically stronger half of humanity. That plus upbringing that teaches boys to be aggressive, stoic and dominant. I am neither of those things you said, and it had to do with my parents raising me with love, not punishing me for being sensitive and nurturing other traits in me, such as my liking of reading, writing and assisting others. Their coddling of me did bring however, another set of problems such as not being strong enough to defend m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 05:49 PM
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I think this operates on a very gender essentialist logic of men being these violent beasts by default and women being these angelic flowers by default. Cruelty, malice, competition, selfishness, violence, distrust, envy and ambition are all human traits, not male ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 05:40 PM
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As a teenager I was bullied relentlessly for being a virgin and not having a girlfriend. I can assure you it wasn’t “because of my personality”. It was because I was a shy, meek and low profile guy who they could torment easily, plus the fact that men are expected to fuck women easily “if they are real men”.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 10:38 PM
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I mean… men who are single and don’t get laid are disdained, by both other men and women. Hell, probably you do it as well considering your response.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 10:28 PM
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“Inherently misogynist” lmfao. Let me guess, women are inherently fair and not misandrist at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 11:08 PM
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If you make it illegal, it will keep happening regardless under the management of shady people. I’d say make it legal and regulated with protection for the workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:00 PM
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Yeah I pretty much agree. I’d like to add some thoughts though: Sex should stop being seen as something “women give to men” and instead should be seen as something men and women do together (or between themselves in the case of homosexual people). Sex should stop being seen not only as a reward, but also as an indicative of social status for men. If you keep telling men they are worthless losers if they don’t get laid, then of course they’ll be more obsessed with getting it. (Some) women should …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:42 PM
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Okay then what exactly would be needed for a patriarchy to no longer exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 01:43 AM
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Maybe I’m dumb but I never understood the point of making the “lifetime” and “last 12 months” distinction in these graphics. Edit: “Made to penetrate” is such an important variation of SA that we need to keep in mind when talking about rape towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 03:29 PM
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I can sort of see your point but I wouldn’t say women as a whole don’t even think of SAing men. Men do it more, sure. But it’s likely due to factors like being stronger on average and having more opportunities to physically overpower a victim, and not risking pregnancy via rape. If women were on average as strong as men and say, could consciously decide after which sexual act they get pregnant, I’m pretty sure the SA rates would be way more evenly matched between the genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 02:22 PM
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/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/25 11:44 PM
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OOOGA BOOGA BOOGA!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 01:04 PM
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Answer my question. Are men mutilated or incomplete women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:59 AM
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So are men mutilated/incomplete women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 01:16 AM
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I don’t think women are repulsed by kindness or niceness. I think they are repulsed by social awkwardness or shyness, even if they exist within a decent or kind man. On the other hand, they are attracted by charm and confidence, even if they exist within an asshole. The charming asshole is 99 times out of 100, gonna be more successful romantically than the shy kind guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 02:55 PM
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Why do you assume him humbling his daughter is a bad thing? Would you think the same of a woman wanting to keep her son humble?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:57 PM
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Speak for yourself dudette. Sure, some women might agree with you. But it's not universal. Some women don't want that. Some women say they want that but then they feel turned off by a man who "can't be their rock". Some women only want men's vulnerability and emotions as a means to boost their own egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:56 PM
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They'd get mocked or even insulted. At the very best they'd get ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 04:32 AM
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Okay troll you had your fun. Go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 04:30 AM
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Thank you for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:02 PM
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True, though I'd personally be quite miserable with someone that only loves my money and status. I wouldn't be able to stand a long term relationship with that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 05:51 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 02:20 PM
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I can agree with that. But still I must insist: Good person ≠ Being in a relationship. Bad person ≠ Being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 02:16 PM
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Charisma and being somewhat physically attractive is what makes people date you. Not necessarily being a good person. A socially awkward guy that wouldn't hurt a fly is inevitably gonna be less romantically successful than a charismatic prick. Can we stop pretending women (or anyone for that matter) are some sort of fair and balanced arbiters of which men deserve to be in a relationship and which don't? Being single doesn't mean you are a bad person, or a loser, or "not good enough" in some way.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 02:09 PM
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I understand and I sympathize with women being cautious. There are psychos out there. But something about this app seems fishy to me. To assume that no woman or almost no woman is gonna put a good or at least meh guy as an evil asshole in there, out of spite or vindictiveness like the defenders of the app claim, is to apply some gender essentialist logic of women as a whole being fair, balanced and kind judges of character.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 12:58 PM
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True, but let's face it: Men listing their icks about women are gonna be answered with more mockery than women doing the same. Men simply don't have the luxury of being as selective as women are. And I'm not saying women are wrong for being selective (there's a lot of psychos out there) but it's undeniable that they have an easier time expressing their distaste about certain attributes in men. They know they'll get hit on regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 05:09 PM
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This seems quite reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 05:05 PM
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"Whichever serves my argument, men bad and women good."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 04:54 PM
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I can smell the stench of gender essentialism in your comment from here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 04:53 PM
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It's not like women don't demand men's help as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 04:51 PM
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They could propose themselves to their BFs rather than making a subreddit complaining about them though...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 02:34 AM
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I don't remember. I think they just threw that "info".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 09:31 PM
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I think the men that say that are reacting to the frequent phrase thrown around of "feminism cares about men too, men should be feminists". And I personally don't agree with that. Feminism is for women. It benefits women and only occasionally and accidentally has benefited men. Plus there's a certain overlap with misandry. The stereotype of feminists being man hating raging lunatics is exaggerated and malicious... But I cannot say it's 100% false. Men need their own movement, and (and this is ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 06:19 PM
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Doesn't mean you can't benefit off of it tho. True, but I can say with quite a bit of certainty that "men benefiting" wasn't and isn't even close to the goal that feminism chases. It's more of an accidental side/collateral effect. Many men already do using women for sex and not paying on dates. Sure, greedy and hypocritical men exist. Same way that greedy and hypocritical women that selectively apply gender roles depending on when they benefit them, also exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 06:12 PM
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🤣 they do, quite often I know, and I imagine you find it insufferable. So don't do that with men's problems. And I'm not gendering the problems. I know you aren't. What I'm saying is that you shouldn't go around stating which men's problems are real and which aren't. You are not a man. You didn't live the experience. Same way I'm not a woman, and I haven't lived your experience. I don't take women seriously when they bitch about dating like it's a genuine social crisis, either. I guess a more pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 06:09 PM
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True, it shouldn't. So please stop saying "feminism is good for men too and men should be feminists". That movement isn't about us, and doesn't care about us. So stop sweet talking us into being part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 06:00 PM
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I'm sorry, but while I agree that "dating and sex" aren't thaaaat big of a deal, it's quite fishy that you, a woman, appoint yourself as an arbiter of what constitutes actual problems for men. Imagine if a man started talking about what are "real problems" for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 05:58 PM
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It's pretty much a hate movement at this point. I don't know if calling it "a hate movement". Feminism is necessary to preserve women's rights. That being said, it sadly overlaps quite a lot with misandry, and more often than not, the reasonable feminists don't feel the need to call them out. Have you seen how feminists react to non-feminist women? It is indeed quite disturbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 05:55 PM
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I guess that as long as you don't go around harassing men and you simply avoid them that's fair. You do you. That being said, again, please don't have kids. Especially not boys. They don't need a mother to whom they have to constantly prove that they are worthy of being loved by, despite their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 05:41 PM
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I'm sorry for whatever happened to you, but if you think hating a gender is a valid reaction that can't be criticized, clearly you either had a bad therapist, you didn't listen to them, or you need more treatment. Either that or you simply enjoy having a target to hate since it can be morbidly cathartic to hate an out-group, in your case men. I hope you don't ever have sons until you have sorted this shit out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 05:25 PM
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Don't bother arguing with her. She admitted to being an open misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 05:20 PM
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As an OPEN misandrist with many healthy relationships with men, This doesn't exist. I respect your honesty though, even if your mentality is abhorrent and despicable, since you saved me from wasting time arguing with you further. You have no place telling men how to be while proudly admitting you hate them. Seek therapy or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 05:14 PM
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Yeah this is true. But it would be far better for people to stop virgin shaming or single shaming guys as "losers" or "weirdos". I've even read online that men that reach middle age being single, are likely to be pedos.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 04:09 PM
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"Be less predatory and you might be seen as a person too" Your level of smug self righteousness and misandry is morbidly amazing. What is each individual man supposed to do? Just... will our entire gender into being good people? Judge people by their actions, not their gender. You wouldn't like to be conflated with vile women commiting crimes, so don't do that with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 04:01 PM
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Do you also feel the urge to defend women accused of being pick mes?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 12:05 AM
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That last phrase is particularly important. We men need to learn to not let a woman's rejection basically cripple our self esteem, even if (and especially if) she's an asshole about the rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:33 PM
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Alright, I understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 12:20 PM
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But you just used those words to describe when you or young attractive women don't like men...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 02:57 AM
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When women are young and attractive, men take personal offense to getting hints or no hints at all that they might not be good enough. But you don't liking a man doesn't mean he's "not good enough". It just means he isn't your type. Unless there's some obvious factor like the dude smelling awful or being rude. If you tell a guy he isn't good enough for you, then yeah of course he won't take it very well. It sounds like you are putting yourself on a pedestal and looking down on him. Nobody likes …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 02:49 AM
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I agree with you. Tbf to women, there is some social pressure to like "the right things" about men, or at least pretend to, and that probably influences women to hide behind that "my tastes are based on morality" mask. Women (and men) can be shallow, can have shit tastes, can claim to like one thing but in reality like another. They can be messy and fallible like men. Both men and women themselves need to stop considering the latter some pure angelic arbiters of morality with their selection of …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 02:41 AM
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I'm not the one that said it was sweet.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:04 AM
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A couple years ago I went through a breakup and one of my guy friends reached out to me saying he always liked me. Then he told me he would touch himself to the sound of my voice when we played games together That is... A pickup line that... Well, existed. Truly one of the declarations of love/lust of all time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 12:42 AM
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A pretty basic yet very important fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:48 PM
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Do you know the subreddit? I'd like to see the discussion.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/25 04:38 PM
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It's basically the same as some women demand from men, yet most of those don't apply that logic to themselves and their gender.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/25 04:38 PM
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Accurate 😭.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/25 04:14 PM
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"Emotional labor" "I'm not your therapist" "I don't feel as attracted to you anymore."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/25 04:13 PM
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That sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 03:27 PM
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I assume she gets hit on frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 05:46 AM
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Tom Holland types maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 05:45 AM
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That's very good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 12:07 AM
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🙄🙄.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:28 PM
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The fact that you have to resort to whataboutism is proof that you can't really refute my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:24 PM
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I haven't heard any examples of what you are saying here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:19 PM
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Good for you and your husband then. I do believe though that people (women and men) are more influenced by conservative ideals than what they realize. Even progressive people. And an example of this can indeed be women that claim to want sensitive and chill men that don't need to be the biggest and most successful man in the room... Only to then fall for those same guys they criticize and feel turned off by those they claimed to want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:08 PM
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I agree to some extent. I think people (men and women), even progressive ones, are more influenced by conservative ideals than what they themselves realize. A manifestation of this is indeed women that claim to want sensitive men who don't need to be the biggest man in the room... And then falling for those same guys they criticize while kinda feeling turned off by the ones they claimed to want. People are sometimes horny, shallow and hypocritical. But it would be a mistake to associate this to …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:03 PM
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And can you be certain that they don't disdain their husbands for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 03:57 PM
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I was with you until the last paragraph. Confusing love with self sacrifice isn't a gendered thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 11:36 PM
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The thing is, virgin men aren't gonna boast about their virginity like promiscuous men do about their "conquests". I was a virgin until my early 20s, and you can bet I didn't tell anyone that. The first time I shared it was with the very girl I lost my virginity to, and only because she asked. Luckily she didn't judge me, but she could have. Men and women look down on virgin men the same way they look down on promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 09:29 PM
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I'm not even 30 and I may follow your advice now. I don't want to be manipulated into a role that limits and harms me by neither conservatives nor progressives. I don't need to be a rich, shallow and womanizing asshole with four cars; nor a virtue signaling, self flagellating and repentant for being a beneficiary of the patriarchy idiot, to be a real man and to be happy. I'll take whatever advice or message benefits and helps me, but I won't subscribe to any set of rules.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/25 10:12 PM
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As a guy that's certainly not a feminist I agree. Obnoxious and insufferable people terminally online exist in every ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:32 AM
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Yeah true. Often enough, real problems are presented in this sub, but it's done less as an exposition and more like a fuck you to this group or the other (and this sub isn't unique in that regard, this behavior is everywhere in the internet). And thus the people answering that feel provoked, also do it as a fuck you. And no meaningful discussion is had.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 07:35 PM
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I agree with your comment in general, but I wouldn't underestimate the role women have in enforcing this societal lack of empathy. It's not just men the ones that bully and mock sensitive, romantically unsuccessful or socially awkward men. Women do it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 04:10 PM
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I kinda agree but it's also true that many women demand that men step up to do their part to "stop misogyny and call it out" in order to not be considered part of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 04:07 PM
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Username checks out lmao. In all seriousness, I think it's more accurate to say that society practices performative caring or performative outrage towards certain subjects at the expense of others. Which are those subjects depends on the time period. For instance, it's kinda mainstream and socially safe to publicly rage about sexual assault against women nowadays, after a long ass time of it not being taken seriously. But sexual assault against men (especially if committed by women) is still see…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 04:03 PM
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I half agree. There are indeed some innate differences between men and women, although I'm not informed enough about biology or psychology to point out the specifics. It's also true that women have a role in enforcing that drive for success in men via their romantic choices. But I don't think it's a bad idea to want to eliminate gender roles and just let men and women drift to whatever role they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 03:57 PM
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I'd like to point out, before any "by other men!!!" person appears, that both men and women enforce these expectations. Not only do men look down on financially, socially or romantically unsuccessful men, so do women. Hell, it's not even just conservatives. Progressives do it as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 03:51 PM
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I really appreciate you giving credit to the many stories of women not reacting well to men opening up rather than rationalizing them as "well that rarely happens and even if it does, those reactions were likely justified" like I've sometimes seen. And I agree with your arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 10:12 PM
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That kinda sounds like what some male feminists do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 02:26 AM
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A judiciary system largely run by men. And largely run by rich white men, largely targeting poor, black men. So again, the systemic oppression certainly exists, but is much more complicated than systemic sexism against men. Do you think that with more women on the system it would be less discriminatory towards men or more? I admit I have no evidence for the following, but I've heard multiple times that women have a greater tendency to favour other women than men do with each other. Like there's …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:54 PM
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It's kinda similar to the problem with sexual assault victims of each gender. Women are sometimes told that it wasn't that big of a deal, that they are exaggerating, or even blamed for the assault. Men on the other hand may not even be recognized as victims of anything at all if they were assaulted by a woman. Some progress has been made in the man to man SA but I'm afraid that in the woman to man variant people are still... Backwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:44 PM
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Well you aren't ever gonna get accused of being privileged on the basis of your sex by progressive people. That's apparently exclusively our thing as men. And yes, sometimes the discussion about privilege does have accusatory and blaming undertones. It is also kinda dissonant and triggering when the word "privilege" is used on a person trapped in an objectively shitty situation, like a homeless mentally ill white man with no loved ones, who apparently "oppresses" with his existence, a rich white…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:33 PM
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While I'm inclined to agree with most of this, it does imply that in equal economic, physical and "racial" conditions, men will always have it easier than women, and I don't think that's always the case. Most homeless people seem to be men, most suicides seem to be men, there are far less shelters for abused men than for abused women, the judiciary system seems to be harsher on men... Overall, it would seem to me that most people "at the very bottom" are men. Men are certainly most of the top 1%…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:26 PM
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This is very important to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:21 PM
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I guess some parents do love their children unconditionally. Other than that, I can only think of abusive relationships in which the abused man or woman meekly submits and lets the abuser walk over them out of "love".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:00 AM
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It's not whataboutism, it's checking if you are coherent in your views and not some sort of gender essentialist that judges men and women differently. It seems you are the former, that's good.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:50 AM
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What about women that shit on their exes? What do you think of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:26 AM
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So are bad breakups always the man's fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:23 AM
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I love how soft, affectionate and sweet many women are. I like being able to both be emotionally supported and do that myself with the women in my life (mother and female friends). I particularly like when I put my arm around them and they rest their heads in my shoulder.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:03 PM
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And also due to how it objectifies and stereotypes men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/25 05:39 PM
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And I'm sure your husband appreciates you choosing him because you love him rather than for monetary gain 😊.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 04:06 PM
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I just did and while admittedly most of the women express distaste and even hate towards the book, I saw no feminist in those comments. Plus there also were some women that had mixed or even positive reactions towards the book.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/25 06:27 PM
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How do you know feminists hate this book?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/25 06:02 PM
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High quality post OP, we really need more posts like this in this subreddit. Thank you! The constant shitting between men and women kinda gets tiresome, so I wanted a space of us actually defending each other for a change.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 09:40 PM
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Very well explained.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/25 08:23 PM
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Sure, but you'll certainly have better chances with a non cheater (until now) than with someone with a history of cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 06:29 AM
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It is true that people get kinda stupider on the internet, with the mix of anonymity and echo chambers that radicalise people. Edit: I admit that even myself, am somewhat more petty and argumentative on the internet than in real life lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 06:01 AM
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I've noticed that, in a way, I express different "types of vulnerability" with my male and female friends. With my male friends, I openly show my stupidest, crudest, humorous and childish self. I tend to laugh with them more. With my female friends, I openly show my most emotional, affectionate and sensitive self. I'm able to both comfort and feel comforted. While I do once in a while express my feelings with my guy friends and my idiotic sense of humour with my girl friends, I tend to be slight…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:48 AM
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I don't think either men or women are honest about this. People always feel like the good guys of their own stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:29 AM
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Yeah I'm not against conservatism itself. More like about selective application of gender roles one way or the other. I find it extremely self serving and entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:27 AM
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Yeah, even as a dude, I find kinda exhausting the moral policing about women having sex. A person fucking or getting fucked is their problem. (As long as it's consented and between adults).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:24 AM
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Thrill seeking is also a factor, albeit not as determinant as insecurity. There is a certain.. rush, in doing "forbidden" things and taking risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:21 AM
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The only way for both men and women to avoid (or at least reduce the chances of) being cheated on, is to pick a partner that they know hasn't cheated with an ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:20 AM
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I mean... It's kind of a silly and outdated expectation based on old gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:11 AM
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I agree with most of this although I kinda sympathize with the people that fear for economic uncertainty. I live on a country that jumps from one economic crisis to the next, and having a house of your own is certainly a shit ton harder now, than it was during my parents' time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:52 AM
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Yeah, the gender bent version of this would be "all women care about in a man is money and status". It's like these people don't really have loved ones from the other gender and so they use cartoon images in their heads as references for how an opposite sex person is. Or worse, even if they do have loved ones from the other gender, they rationalise their prejudices with "he/she is one of the few good ones".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:50 AM
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The element of charisma must not be underestimated when talking about romantically successful people. And the fact that both good and shit people can possess that quality. Just like both good and shit people can be awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:29 AM
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Pretty based.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:27 AM
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In some countries men are the ones exclusively forced to go to war (don't come at me with "but the US hasn't had a draft in I don't know how many years" talking point, I'm not talking just about the US, I don't even live there). Lone men playing with kids are more likely to be seen as predators. We are far more pressured to pursue sex otherwise we are considered weird losers (it's the counterpart to women being pressured to not have too much sex). Being "unfuckable" is an insult thrown almost ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:59 AM
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Do you have a source?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:46 AM
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Alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:46 AM
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While all of your points are fair, I feel you are ignoring the downsides of being a dude. It's not all sunshine and rainbows to be a man, even if it may seem like it to some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:33 AM
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This is probably the best answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:31 AM
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Wait what? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:27 AM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 10:56 PM
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Why do you use males and women? You are the gender bent version of "men and females".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 04:15 AM
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Do you practice being self righteous, annoying and obnoxious?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 04:14 AM
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didn't mock the idea of men discussing feminism, I love discussing it w my male friends irl, but two dude circlejerking about what they think feminism is - on THIS SUBREDDIT of all places? Yeah, oddly enough that doesn't feel comparable to productive feminist discussion. Define "productive feminist discussion".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:02 PM
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In another comment you mock the idea of men discussing feminism, and here you praise male feminists. Which one is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 02:15 PM
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So that discussion should be restricted to only women? "Feminism is for everyone" went down the toilet it would seem.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 02:12 PM
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I really value my women friends. They have given me lots of emotional support and perspective on the day to day of women that I didn't have on my teenage group of only male friends (that group was a toxic shitshow though, I was only there just as a means to not be a high school outcast). I laugh with my male friends more since I can express my sometimes crude and asinine humour with them with less filtering, but I'm able to both comfort and be comforted by my female friends more easily. On the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 08:05 PM
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Good for your husband to have surpassed that phase and having found you 😊.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 11:27 PM
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Pretty reasonable tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 11:26 PM
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Totally agreed. I'd also add stop teaching boys that they are only real men if they get laid. Getting rejected doesn't make them less of a man or a loser, it just means not everyone is gonna be compatible with them and that's fine. If you tie a boy/young man's worth to their "ability to get sex" of course they'll be more obsessed about achieving it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:04 AM
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I'm not sure about calling this a "society-wide issue". I simply think it's an underestimated and not talked about enough issue. Men are called out for not being vulnerable as if they were simply being stupid and closed off and hurting themselves for nothing. But it's an oversimplified and nuanced issue, and one of the reasons for it is that the so called "sexy vulnerability" shown in TV and media is just a small peek into the whole thing. And I've seen in Reddit enough stories of guys that open…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 05:46 PM
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If they show a pattern of choosing always the same abusive assholes, yes. Especially if they start with the "men are trash" kind of statements. They don't get to complain and whine when they keep choosing like shit and pretend that their preferences are the average dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 04:07 AM
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They are but as a fellow guy I can sort of understand their thinking. They believe they can't afford to be too picky or they might end up totally alone. To put a silly example, I used to swipe right on Tinder on girls I didn't really find attractive because... Well, I wanted to be with someone. After two sexual experiences in which I didn't... Function, I realized I wasn't doing myself any favours.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 11:36 PM
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Yep. For the record, I was agreeing with you, not arguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 10:26 PM
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I'd say her criticism is valid here. We need to have higher standards for women than them just being pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:58 PM
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Pretty privilege is an underrated, underestimated and not talked about nearly enough, kind of privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:47 PM
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Hypocrisy and self serving-ness know no gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:46 PM
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I agree. This applies to both men demanding trad wives and "progressive" women still wanting to be treated like princesses. People are hypocritical and self serving if they feel they can get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:45 PM
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I wish women would just stop giving "righteous" or "moral" reasoning to their distaste for a guy. If you don't like him you don't like him. That's it. Don't make it "his fault" for not being good enough in something.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:43 PM
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And who decides what's a reasonable or unreasonable emotional reaction in men? Women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:41 PM
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I'm sure this sounded very smart on your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:24 AM
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Yeah because you shitting on men you don't even know as pathetic losers is so normal. You are a male pick me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:22 AM
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Yeah buddy I'm sure the women in this sub are applauding you and calling you "one of the good ones" right now. Keep up the good work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:19 AM
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Putting down other men makes you feel good doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:04 AM
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The good old "men evil women good" gender essentialism.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 05:01 PM
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I'm sure this response sounded very smart in your head. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 05:00 PM
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I know what that word means. What I mean is that you haven't proven me wrong. You just refused to argue and mocked me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:55 PM
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Am I wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:52 PM
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And I assume you think men are foolish and paranoid for believing this, but you can apply the same logic to women that believe sexual assault is so common based on the testimony of other women, which I assume you don't think on the slightest that it's exaggerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:12 PM
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It's not merely a natural tendency. Society pushes men to be competitive and women to be united. It's no coincidence that men that don't measure up to other men in terms of masculinity or success of any kind are disdained, and so are women "that hate other women".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:10 PM
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And I assume you disdain the manosphere right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:08 PM
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This is a fair point. Personally, the very few times I use the reasoning of your second paragraph is as a response of people online using the reasoning of your very first sentence. Otherwise I think it's dumb and embarassing to take credit for what hard working and/or genius men have done and keep doing just because I share genitals with them. Just like it's dumb for someone to try in any way to make me feel complicit about what asshole and/or perverse men do to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 08:35 PM
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I miss having him on this sub.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/25 01:51 AM
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Very nice comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 04:54 PM
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Based. I agree with everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 09:06 PM
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Holy fuckin shit, one of the best comments I've seen in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:43 AM
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I don't think that's even up for debate, we all instinctively know that women are less violent and less prone to defending imperialism It is up to debate and there's no "we". This is something you believe, as well as other like minded people that buy into gender essentialism. The differences between men and women don't involve a difference in malice or aggressive tendencies, they involve a difference in subtlety, which comes mostly from the different ways we are raised. Men are more openly aggre…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 06:14 PM
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I kinda agree with the first half but not with the second. It's why countries are so violent towards each other and wars are so common throughout society, power is disproportionately held by men throughout the world even if most men won't benefit from every aspect of that fact. Are you trying to imply that if women mostly ruled the world things would be better? Cuz that would be getting suspiciously close to a "men violent brutes, women wise pacifists" gender essentialist view of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 03:01 PM
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"When men do x thing it's because they are evil, shallow and or failures". "When women do x thing it's because of sympathetic and valid reasons, usually men's fault."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 11:00 PM
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Being in a relationship doesn't mean a woman is good, or reasonable. Many asshole men have girlfriends and wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 10:56 PM
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Em, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 10:54 PM
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I agree. I feel most men (and I include myself) put women too much at the center of their minds. Always or at least too frequently looking to impress them, to please them, to make them love us, to defend them, to determine our worth via how easy we have it in getting their attention... Without the high libido and sexual urges, we'd probably get rid of all of that. Edit: Hell, this is even true for asshole or even evil men. Without the higher libido and sexual urges, there would probably be far l…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 10:20 PM
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There’s a weird mix of humanity and ‘girls bad’ in your post. Most of it is true, but this idea that women only have nefarious reasons for anything is disappointing in the context of the rest of it. I appreciate you at least half considering my point. As for the "girl bad" part, that's not my intention. I made sure to clarify only some women do this and I even gave examples of women doing the contrary at the beginning. Generalizing about any gender is asinine and just as I hate when it's done ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 05:18 PM
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Reading all of this and your love for the guy was kinda touching. Have you directly told him about how you feel about his stoicism? One thing to consider about men (or women) like him is that there's usually a reason or reasons behind that stoicism. They aren't like this "because it's cool". They are like that maybe because they had very bad experiences being more emotional and want to protect themselves, maybe they are overcompensating for something, maybe it's about how they were raised. I'm a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 06:26 AM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 04:13 AM
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The line between one and the other depends on the person's tolerance and it's subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 04:08 AM
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Oh... I'm sorry about the uncomfortable experience. I can't help but pity the guy, he's clearly super traumatized and not mentally well, but your safety comes first. Take care.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 01:26 AM
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Agreed. It's not a "this is women/men's fault" thing. It's more of a "gender roles still latching on people's collective consciousness" thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 09:03 PM
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Alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 08:45 PM
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Should only men be expected to develop emotional resilience?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 08:38 PM
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I risk sounding a bit like a manospherian when saying this, but I think maaaany women prefer a strong asshole over a timid kind guy. And sure, preferences are preferences. But some women pretend like all guys have to do to get women is "being good and treat them like human beings" when the truth is neither men's nor women's romantic preferences are based on morality. Being a good person can be a bonus if you are also strong, but more often than not it kindness alone won't make you a good match.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 08:07 PM
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Admittedly there are guys posting what you say (not sure if you are including me on that statement or not) but it's not like women don't do this as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 07:41 PM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 07:19 PM
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Many (not all, luckily) responses to this post have been a bit disappointing tbh. People not really addressing my points and making thinly veiled "men suck" statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 07:13 PM
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Some of the answers here kinda prove that men don't have a choice but to be emotionally reserved and guarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 06:59 PM
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One of the few answers that feels that actually read my whole post rather than giving into the urge of dissing. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 06:53 PM
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It does. Considering your later sentence shouldn't you say "it doesn't"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 06:52 PM
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I don't want to say your username checks out buuuuut...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 06:50 PM
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Okay, so you think it makes sense for society to not demand the same self control and self regulation from men and women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 06:48 PM
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So women shouldn't be expected to do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 06:45 PM
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The issue isn't that men can't open up. It's that they have no resilience. Do you feel badass for writing this?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 06:44 PM
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You agree that men have to be emotionally stronger than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 06:41 PM
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Being physically weaker doesn't mean you are emotionally weaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 06:40 PM
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I feel like anything I respond is gonna get dissected in not the best faith, so I'll just leave this here. Some responses to this post have been kinda... Taunting and low key hostile.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 06:39 PM
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I'd like to be able to express my emotions with the same range women are allowed to and without the added expectation of "being a man" about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 06:36 PM
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With that said, men are not women and no matter what women say, whether they believe it or not, the vast majority of them want a man who is clealry emotionally stronger than them. And this is unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 06:34 PM
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You must disparage women in the process. Ultimately, everything men do is really just women's fault. How disappointing. But not unusual for PPD. This sub really is just some men whining about their inability to take accountability for their life and actions. This sounds a lot like being defensive. I assume you must be projecting some unpleasant discussions with other guys on me, because nothing I said merited this answer. Have a nice day. I'm not arguing with you anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 06:27 PM
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What the actual hell. I only asked for coherence rather than some gendered statement about only men needing to have their shit together. You interpreting this as an attack on women is a you problem. I should have known you were a defensive and taunting person after your emotional downvote to my first response.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 06:22 PM
1

Alright. Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 06:20 PM
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I mean the logic of trauma dumping or blaming the other gender for your problems not being vulnerability or at least valid vulnerability. As long as you apply that to both genders and not only men I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 06:17 PM
8

Vulnerability is HOT when it's the RIGHT type of vulnerability. Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 06:15 PM
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I gave some examples on the post but I can give others: Confiding to their GF and wife about feeling intimidated about an asshole coworker with her not judging him as unmanly. Asking for or silently leaning towards their SO for a hug or a cuddle. Asking for some alone time when he's upset. Crying and needing to vent about a particularly shitty and unfortunate day. Basically the guy needing support or understanding about negative situations that don't involve his GF feeling important or flattered…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 06:14 PM
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Opening up is not having irrational beliefs validated then sitting idly by while you(royal) insult them for telling you the thing you're upset about is factually incorrect. Of course not. I never said or implied it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 06:03 PM
6

As long as you apply the same logic to women, I can agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 06:02 PM
3

I think this also happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 05:56 PM
16

As long as you apply this to both men and women, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 05:55 PM
1

Are you still with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 04:38 PM
3

It would be foolish to generalize and treat women as a monolith, so I'll simply say what I think some women do, either consciously or not. I think many women sincerely believe they want a vulnerable man and openly ask for that, but they don't realize what they are truly asking for because they have an idealized image of what a vulnerable man is that they kinda fetishize. With this I mean the guy that is extremely perceptive and sensitive about his girlfriend's needs without her needing to tell h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 07:21 AM
6

It's good to know some (likely most) women think like this. I've read some insane comments saying that middle aged single childless men are "likely to be pedophiles"...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 05:57 PM
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I don't see it changing anything. I don't see "it's not just men, occasionally you'll be harassed by a woman in power instead" as being a good reason to stop talking about meToo. It probably is a good reason to stop saying "believe women and hold men accountable" as if this was exclusively a "men abusing women" thing; and to start saying "believe victims and hold abusers accountable no matter who they are". Male victims or female victims of other women, also need to be encouraged to come forward…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 02:21 PM
1

I guess that believing victims only applies to women huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 01:11 PM
16

B-A-S-E-D.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 10:43 PM
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There isn’t anything especially heroic about men’s self sacrifice than women’s, and men’s disdain for white knights confesses that men believe men act heroically in order to impress women, not from altruistic inspiration. Women also disdain women that defend men. They call them pick mes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 01:44 PM
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Birth isn’t a difference in size and strength, it’s a difference in abilities. Out of biology, not out of women "being better" or "choosing" it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 01:42 PM
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Men don’t get extra credit for sexual dimorphism You say this and then in the same comment you praise women for giving birth. and risk their lives bringing children, both girls and boys, into the world. Just in case you erase it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 01:35 PM
12

You speak of "facts" and provide no source.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 01:31 PM
2

Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 07:44 PM
6

What do you mean why?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 03:21 PM
3

"Feminism is for men too, men should be feminists."
/r/EverydayMisandry05/03/25 03:10 PM
10

All I know is that this is gonna be a controversial series. You can't speak about men's issues without pissing off someone.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/25 12:03 AM
2

I think looks aren't what helps people (of any gender) get away with their shit. It's charisma. Both good and bad people, rich and poor, ugly and handsome, can have charisma.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 09:55 PM
2

I don't imagine those women loving those Chads for who they are and being there for him when he's in a bad spot. Regardless of that, I'm not saying Chads don't get women, I'm saying that's not an obligatory requisite.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 06:31 PM
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Yeah it kinda sucks but you are right about this. Guys need to understand (and society needs to stop telling them otherwise) that being rejected by a woman doesn't mean you are "less" or "inferior" or "not good enough". It just means that woman wasn't into you. You are not any less of a man for being rejected. What's more, I can think of something worse and more humiliating than being rejected: Being accepted for pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:58 PM
2

You made a pretty good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:55 PM
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Women's preferences in men can be as shallow and immature as men's, and they are not based in just morality. "The best, most kindhearted men" won't attract the most women. They will attract the women that value that above all else, which is not all of them. And unlike what a certain user says, it's not Incel or misogynistic to say so. On the contrary, pretending that women are some enlightened wise beings as a whole that always chose the best man possible, is what's dehumanizing to women. Women …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:35 PM
5

Good for you I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:35 PM
6

And what are you exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:29 PM
12

Let me guess, you are one of those kind, great guys that get women with no difficulty at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:24 PM
28

Why do you operate on extremes? Not being a domineering asshole isn't being a "spineless loser".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:13 PM
6

Man... Which such an insufferable and sexist personality he must have had an immense superficial charm in order to fuck so many women. What is it with assholes and their charm lmao. Maybe it was a sadly typical case of people confusing assholery with confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 11:30 PM
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If he doesn't give his approval, OP can seduce his wife in revenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 01:56 AM
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No, that's just how you were using it, which is an incorrect way to use the term. I never used it this way, I don't know why you assume this. I don't use the term at all except to mock those who use it like crap to diss men. Other people using the word wrong on social media or something also does not convert the term into a buzz word - it just means there are people out there who use it incorrectly. Guess so. It's frustrating when the people using it like shit are so loud tho. This is exactly wr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 12:44 AM
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You don't know what that term means. Ask several people about this term and they'll give you different answers. It used to mean something but now it's just a buzzword for "man does something I don't like and it's pathetic and harmful". I'm aware it's original meaning is something along the lines of "bunch of expectations about men that are harmful to them and the people around them". Which sure, does exist. But men's issues can't be summed up with "if only they cried more they'd be fine, they do…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 12:14 AM
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And there are still men's issues in 2025. But the draft is not one of those issues. Okay which issues can you name? Without mentioning toxic masculinity or any variant of "men have to do better".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 11:13 PM
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It's amazing and frustrating how people can be so smugly confident about such asinine takes.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/02/25 10:37 PM
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Hello there. Yeah, I prefer to think those two were simply affectionate friends. It's nice to see two men being "loving" with each other without them being gay. We need to normalize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 01:50 AM
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That men that don't read a woman's mind about whether she wants to be approached or not in a place like a pub before she actually tells them, are creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 01:22 AM
4

So you agree with that stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 01:11 AM
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There are people who unironically think guys should simply "know" when a woman doesn't want to be approached (I'm not talking about a dark street, I'm talking about social spaces like pubs), and that not realizing it is either incredibly socially inept or creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 01:06 AM
1

Heh, men are lonelier than women on average, beyond romance. Call it different upbringings, different social messaging, different views on lone men and lone women (I've seen truly unhinged takes like single middle aged men being probably pedos by that fact alone), or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 08:46 PM
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Yep. Putting anyone before your kids is deeply irresponsible at best and despicable at worst. The children you decided to bring into this world should be your top priority. They come before any friend, sibling, lover and even your own parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 08:42 PM
1

Good for you and for them 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 06:02 PM
1

I strongly recommend the latter. Because maybe what you think it's letting the guy know, isn't the same as what he thinks is you letting him know. The "hint game" is tricky, ambiguous and IMO needlessly complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 05:30 PM
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Similarly to how feminists and misandrists aren't the same yet there's a bit of an overlap. It's not a diss at you, just thinking out loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:11 PM
4

Benevolent sexism infecting feminism. A bug or a feature?
/r/EverydayMisandry29/01/25 04:29 PM
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Feminists pretending these people don't exist within their movement aren't doing themselves any favours.
/r/EverydayMisandry28/01/25 03:55 PM
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These people are repulsed by the mere concept of male advocacy. Even a self flagellating, self censured, "we are the good ones" kind of "advocacy" like the one sometimes present in subs like Menslib. This is why advocacy for men shouldn't need the approval of feminists.
/r/EverydayMisandry25/01/25 08:58 PM
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What a weird hill to die on for that woman.
/r/EverydayMisandry23/01/25 11:02 PM
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Eeeeeh this one doesn't fit this sub. And it's more tragic than satisfying tbh.
/r/PussyPassDenied20/01/25 04:56 PM
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woman are scared men will kill then, men are scared woman will laugh at them Again with this oversimplifying bs phrase. Do people feel oh so smart and deep when they write it or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 04:09 PM
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Men face death and women face rape and death. This is what you said. This is the reason why it's dumb to play who has it worse, because everyone has it bad during war. People literally are tortured and lose their lives just for some losers on the internet to use those people's pain and suffering to fuel this stupid faux gender war. It's disgusting, this whole post is so disgusting to me. I feel sorry for the people actually experiencing these hardships. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 07:41 PM
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Are you sure men don't face rape or at least mutilation as well during war? To give an example, IIRC in the Massacre of Nanjing, an author of a book about the subject called Iris Chang, described that besides the tens of thousands of raped Chinese women, many Chinese men were also sodomized and forced at gunpoint to rape their female relatives. I also recall that during the early stages of the Russia/Ukraine war, there was a video circulating in Twitter about a captured male soldier from Ukraine…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 04:31 PM
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Desperation and seemingly unlimited power bring out the worst in people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 04:15 PM
3

You are awesome.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/01/25 04:18 PM
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What in the godforsaken fuck is that sub?
/r/EverydayMisandry01/01/25 05:20 AM
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As long as you are coherent with your way of thinking and don't switch your personal definition of feminism in order to win an argument, I respect your opinion even if I don't agree with it. I value consistency in the person I'm arguing with, over thinking the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 10:34 PM
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Shit, thoughtful and nuanced comments like these is what keeps me from getting away from these spaces. They are sadly not as common as the usual "men evil/women evil" rage bait or circlejerk, but when they appear they make it count. Thanks for taking your time in writing such a good response.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 10:29 PM
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That's your experience. In my experience, there are feminists that go full blown "aw your fee fees got hurt boo hoo" when a guy complains about feminism's tolerance for "kill all men" or "men are trash" kind of rhetoric (which they usually justify as "the oppressed punching up the oppressors"). There are also feminists who act extremely dismissive of issues primarily faced by men such as workplace deaths, suicides, countries drafting only men to war, amongst others. At most you get a half hearte…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 03:24 PM
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I think it's a lot more simplistic than this: They see men complain "women won't fuck me! stupid whores are probably fucking Chad! They only want ASSHOLES! I'll never be loved!" and they laugh because... I mean, duh, what do they expect women to love? You're being an asshole while also claiming women only love assholes? It's quite naive to assume feminists only react like this to these cartoonishgly pathetic guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 02:55 PM
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Doesn't change the fact that, growing up, feminists were the only people who advocated for men to not have to conform to strictly defined masculinity, just as it advocated for women to not have to conform to strict femininity. One of the things that I, as someone who doesn't identify with feminism, wholeheartedly agree with the movement, is how restrictive and bullshit gender roles are. Men and women should be allowed to flourish and develop as they will. That being said, I think many feminists …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 02:47 PM
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Feminism by definition means that men's issues have just as much weight to women as women's issues, but that never bears out in reality. You add on a thick layer of irony and bitter sarcasm that's all the rage on the Internet these days, and it's no wonder that men either react negatively or check out entirely The thing is even feminists themselves don't seem to agree on what feminism covers. Some think feminism should help everyone, some think men are the oppressors and women are the oppressed …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 02:42 PM
0

Based!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 02:37 PM
18

Wow, a nuanced and well thought response. That isn't something we see every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 11:39 PM
2

Very based comment. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 05:03 AM
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I feel as much disdain for misandrists as the next person here, but in this particular instance I kiiiiinda sympathise with this woman. She just wants to compliment guys without suffering an uncomfortable moment, and it's true many men make it sexual. We as guys know pretty well how starved for compliments we are in comparison to women (which influences the sexualizing of the few we get) so I think the goodwill of girls like the original poster should be encouraged, not dismissed. The comments t…
/r/EverydayMisandry26/12/24 11:40 PM
1

Totally agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 11:31 PM
2

You know what? I half take that back. Spite can be harmful to oneself, but it can also be a potent fuel.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 03:09 PM
2

At the very least do this when giving signals that you like us lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 11:30 PM
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😊😊😊.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:12 PM
5

Less middle finger and more middle ground, people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:00 PM
3

Being "righteously" pissed off is quite a hobby for many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:58 PM
4

Anger and spite are veeeeery addictive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:58 PM
3

Yeah I'd say the problem is not just ignorance but also spite.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:57 PM
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Acting on spite can be momentarily cathartic, but it's draining long term and it can make you behave in ways you will somewhat regret afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:57 PM
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Thisssss. I think money and the status and influence coming with it, is the greatest cause for power disparity in humanity. I don't see how we can ever get rid of it, but it's nice to at least be aware of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 07:29 PM
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I agree, but I'm assuming some of the people that engage into "men are trash/women are trash" do have some traumatic experiences with the other gender. An absent or abusive father/mother, sexual assault, physical or psychological violence in a romantic relationship, you name it. Many are probably just exaggerating whatever petty or moderate displeasure they faced with the other gender, or are just the result of too much echo chambering, of course. I was trying to encompass all possibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 07:27 PM
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Yep. I guess it's more cathartic for people to belittle and dismiss others rather than trying to relate and find common ground. One gives you a dopamine rush. The other is harder to achieve, although it can also be pleasant if done successfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 07:20 PM
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So instead of blaming, or comparing victimhood, let’s acknowledge that women can’t understand what men go through and we should be empathetic to your different struggles. And you do the same for us. Fuckin Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:32 PM
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I don't mind women being cautious and careful with stranger men, I know it's simply self preservation and not a spiteful "fuck you" to men in general. It's a sad and regrettable reality but well... It's reality. We ourselves as men are wary of stranger men, I know I become slightly on guard when I'm walking alone at night and a group of somewhat loudmouthed dudes is walking in my direction. In fact, I'd even say dangerous men are more likely to physically attack fellow men, just as they are more…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 03:57 PM
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I think some women, just like some men, have a somewhat childish and immature enjoyment of the "cool, uninterested" pretty man/woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:30 PM
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I'm talking about how she used a murder as an example of her supporting whoever she sees as a member of the oppressed class. I'm not analysing the specific murder. Under the logic she used, she'd probably support acts of violence against men if they are committed under the lens of "women rising up against their oppressors".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 08:28 PM
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"Defend my honor" wow lady do you live in the 1800s or what the hell? Also love how risking your life is merely "being a decent human being". They are so entitled that this is the bare minimum for them.
/r/EverydayMisandry16/12/24 08:25 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 08:11 PM
2

Nope, just pointing out the irony. Nice try to pull the "aw you got your fee fees hurt, you weak man?" card though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 08:05 PM
2

This doesn't negate what I said. Feminists do consider men the oppressor class and women the oppressed class. And you, someone that is either a feminist or at least very sympathetic to them, said you support the oppressed hating their oppressors, even saying you are on the side of a specific killer to put an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:09 PM
1

So to be clear you're wanting feminists to call out every single instance of feminists doing something men don't like right? How is this different from feminists demanding that men police other men's behavior every they do something they don't like?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:06 PM
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If you scour the globe looking for all examples of men being sexual predators and compile them all in one place then it's going to look like all men are sexual predators. I get the sinking feeling you have an issue with that though lol.... Funny you use this example considering your flair, the whole "I rather meet with a bear than a man" which was used by many women as a bullying and taunting tactic about how men are sooooo likely to be sexual predators.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:05 PM
2

It's not very different from feminists demanding that men police other men's behavior that may be disrespectful towards women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:02 PM
0

The problem is, it leaves the possibility of the mother being the abusive one, out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:01 PM
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Of course I give grace to men hating their oppressors. That's why I'm on team Luigi in this Health Insurance shooting business. And according to feminism, men are the oppressors and women are the oppressed. So you likely think any woman hating men is understandable and sympathetic and "punching up", whereas any man hating women is just evil and must be called out as evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:56 PM
1

Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 03:55 PM
4

Dudette why are you so obsessed with always blaming the man in every situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 03:50 PM
1

A "courageous" woman that fully expected her boyfriend to protect her. That's not very courageous.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 03:45 PM
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There's quite a lot of shitting on men in social media like Twitter or Tik Tok. It's more than "very few" people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 03:40 PM
1

Alright, different question then, would you expect (and tacitly demand) your man to serve as your protector in a conflict you started with a guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 02:31 PM
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No, I wouldn't use her as a human shield. Where in the world did you get that idea? If a guy threatened my GF/female friend, I would put myself between the two, but because I care about her and I'm bigger and stronger, not because as a man that's "my duty" or whatever bullshit. There shouldn't be an expectation for men to get hurt in the service of women, especially not by feminists (like I assume you are) who claim to be all for gender equality and eliminating gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 02:26 PM
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Like the other comment said, many aggressive men tend to be more aggressive with a fellow man rather than with women. Call it twisted chivalry, call it macho bullshit, but it happens. More men than women die because of violent crime. With all that in consideration, having reserves about fighting doesn't seem unreasonable. Maybe, just maybe, you are somewhat more comfortable with the idea of a man getting hurt than a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:19 AM
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losing a fight is a million times better than sitting there glued to your phone, fully aware that someone you claim to 'love' is in serious danger right in front of your eyes. I wouldn't go as far as labeling who's a "real man" or not, but I will say this, that guy? he wouldn't be in my life, period. Yet you would expect him to put himself in danger for you and would get really angry if he didn't according to your own comment. That man being someone you supposedly love as your boyfriend or frien…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 05:57 AM
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And the man's own safety isn't a factor to you? If he looked cool while fighting and you weren't in any danger would you like to see your man fighting for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 05:47 AM
3

This is why, no matter how despicable and imbecilic phony progressives are in regards to their views of men, we must remember that conservatives are not the solution.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/12/24 06:50 PM
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I don't deny the existence of the loser creeps in the meme but in what fuckin world does society approve of them lmfao. They are pariahs.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/12/24 07:57 PM
1

I agree with all of your stances although I think the dickhead you argued with does not represent the average MRA. Are there some eye rolling worthy misogynistic conservatives inside the MRA movement? Sadly yes. Just like there are some unhinged misandrists inside the feminist movement (I argued with one only two days ago). This is not a diss at you mind you, I greatly appreciate you coming here to talk in good faith, I'm just pointing out the unfortunate presence of imbecilic extremists on othe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/24 03:18 PM
0

I think the kind of women you mention feel excited about a "bad man with a hidden good heart that he'll only show to his special girl". It's like a young girl fantasy that some women never grow out of. It's the reason for why characters like Daemon Targaryen and the vampire from Twillight are so popular with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 11:59 PM
4

Well that's rough and bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 09:38 PM
3

At least online, the most common complaint that I see about women by men is them being manipulative, picky and "incapable of taking responsibility". The most common complaint that I see about men by women is them being not empathetic enough, not supportive enough, not attentive enough, or not having the same political views.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 09:18 PM
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In my experience, in most places filled with only one gender, shit talk about the other gender will ensue. It's a mix of men and women resenting each other and not understanding each other but smugly pretending they got the other completely figured out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 09:07 PM
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I never said it's justified to hate women, in fact I agree with you that doing so it's pointless and it doesn't help anyone. But I've seen people complain about shitting on women being vile and unacceptable hate speech but shitting on men being not big of a deal because of some nebulous and lazy reasoning a la "it's punching up, they are the ones in power, oh boo hoo, facts are more important than their fee fees". So I wanted to know if you are one of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 09:01 PM
8

Would you say the same about hostile to men spaces like the TwoX sub? Or are those "acceptable punching up"?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 08:41 PM
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She asks why men feel a certain way... And then restricts the answers to only women. That's certainly a strategy that exists.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/12/24 08:37 PM
4

Probably because she's as evil as he is.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/12/24 06:55 PM
6

This woman's favourite fictional character is probably Livia Soprano or Beatrice Horseman lmfao.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/12/24 06:51 PM
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If I had to guess, I assume this woman had an either absent or abusive father, and/or at least one bad experience with boyfriends, and afterwards she started echo chambing in man hating sites until she became the... Success she's today. I'd find her story pitifully sad if there wasn't a son involved (whose father I'm pretty sure this woman also hates). As it is, I'm kinda worried for the boy.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/12/24 06:43 PM
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And she wants to raise him with the mentality of "not being a rapist scumbag". She seriously thinks she's the difference between her son growing up to be a good person and a rapist. If the kid turns out alright, it will be despite her, no thanks to her.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/12/24 06:37 PM
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I don't have very high hopes for his quality of childhood, unless he has a good father or other family members that can protect him from her. She's even rabidly defending in another thread, the abusive mother of a commenter's son.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/12/24 06:35 PM
13

Hohoho, you are in for a ride then.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/12/24 06:23 PM
26

Tbf, that's the least infuriating thing this lady said IMO.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/12/24 06:20 PM
13

That woman is certainly... A feminist that exists.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/12/24 06:13 PM
25

I'd find it hilarious if she didn't have a son. That poor boy will have it rough.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/12/24 05:53 PM
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That is true as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:45 PM
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Can you at least admit that women have a far easier time finding a partner than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 02:32 PM
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You forgot to say that men are oppressors and women the oppressed, while you were at it. You'd have gotten the whole "men are trash" pack.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 02:30 PM
3

Let me guess, this is r/twoxchromosomes Edit: Or more likely r/fragilemaleredditor
/r/EverydayMisandry09/12/24 06:41 PM
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Very true. I'm surprised by your take considering your pill. But I guess this phenomenon is getting increasingly hard to ignore, specially since Trump won. Better late than never.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 05:58 PM
3

Too bad some the people that say this, they say it as a gotcha or as an "insult" rather than from a place of compassion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 03:40 AM
6

The thing is Democrats won't do that either no matter how much they present themselves as the party of inclusivity and love. If I were American I'd probably not even bother voting for any side.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 01:56 PM
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Imitating Christian Grey, Daemon Targaryen and Edward Cullen is gonna get me in quite a lot of trouble wouldn't you say?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 04:50 PM
12

This entitled mindset is hardly exclusive to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 09:05 PM
1

I'm not following?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 09:00 PM
7

Incel really isn't the "ultimate insult" at all. It has just lost its true definition of solely being involuntarily celibate. It kinda is tho. Incel is thrown around in discussions by people that don't know how to properly retort a point so they go the easy way: Call a man worthless and pathetic for not getting laid AKA an incel, and thus, his argument is invalid because he's a "defective" man that doesn't have sex enough, even if the discussion had nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 05:22 PM
20

It's so amusing that both conservatives and progressives fall into this, despite the latter claiming to be oh so accepting of women's bodily autonomy and oh so against toxic masculinity in men (which part of it is the obsession with getting laid). Spite is way stronger than "ideals".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 05:14 PM
13

Either that or us Latinos wanting for some very weird reason to imitate you guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 02:43 PM
48

Americans truly have a special ability to make ridiculous movements become viral and way more relevant than they deserve to be: 4B, MGTOW, flat earthers, anti vaccines, etc. The worst part is though, that even dumber and stupider versions of those phenomenons arrive in Latin America a few years later, or at least that's what I've seen happening in my country Argentina.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 01:21 PM
82

The teacher was a man right? Someone should have told him "how do we know the rapist isn't you, sir?"
/r/EverydayMisandry26/11/24 02:17 AM
14

Just like shaming a woman for "fucking too much" is stupid, shaming a man for "fucking too little" should also be considered stupid. Every person's sex and romantic life are their own damn business.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 08:52 PM
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This has to be bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:12 AM
5

Awesome post!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/24 08:29 PM
1

That should apply to MRAs and feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:06 PM
1

So it's valid for feminists to consider MRAs evil and wrong for male advocates to even criticize feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:14 PM
14

This happens too with the genders reversed. Even more so I'd say. Women are absolutely better predisposed towards other women than towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:30 AM
1

Criticizing feminism is being against equality of the sexes? Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:10 AM
1

Well feminists already consider MRAs as a whole as misogynistic and vile.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:07 AM
21

Then don't come up with the "feminism is good for men too" bs. Just call it for what it is: advocacy for women. Don't switch the definition to win an argument. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:04 AM
3

It's not just other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:16 AM
23

Happy men's day to everyone!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/24 01:00 AM
10

I had no idea either.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/24 01:00 AM
10

Saved! Good job putting all of this together.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/11/24 06:47 PM
1

Yes and no. There are definitely women that find men who are intimidating and domineering towards other men attractive, and psychopaths are usually charming, which is another trait that makes you attractive. I'm not saying being aggressive or psychopathic makes you a good or successful person, buuuuut it's false to say that it doesn't attract some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 05:03 PM
3

Meh it's not at all exclusive to women trust me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:02 PM
15

Oh nooooo it truly is a tragedy!
/r/EverydayMisandry17/11/24 01:30 AM
5

People love getting offended and upset on other people's behalf. Usually without the latter even requesting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 04:37 PM
27

Their persuasion skills can be summed up with "shame them into submission".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/11/24 03:31 PM
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/r/EverydayMisandry15/11/24 01:38 AM
2

Then why don't people do this as much with older women dating younger men?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:30 AM
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Our very souls are filthy misogynists. Never wanting to inhabit a woman's body! Smh! Shame on us!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/11/24 12:06 AM
1

Okay at least your opinion is coherent lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:53 PM
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You are not getting my point. There are women that reject ugly men while calling them either to their face or to their backs creeps or pests, when they have accepted dates with more attractive men that acted the same way as the others. A man being a predator shouldn't depend on whether the woman he's approaching finds him cute or not. It should depend on his actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 10:40 PM
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True. All I'm saying is that we should be honest about the different standards we apply to advances depending on whether we find the person attractive or not. An attractive man being mildly insistent and successfully getting a date with a woman isn't more "moral" than an ugly man attempting the same with that same woman and failing. I think labelling the latter as a predator and not the former is kinda unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 10:36 PM
1

But not many men are gonna call unattractive women sex pests or predators. They won't pretend their preferences are based on morality and ethics rather than looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 10:21 PM
1

I'd say it comes down to women having on average better support systems and less hostility from their environments to lean on other people emotionally, compared to men who are still expected to just kinda have their shit together (from both other men and women, it's not a "by other men" issue), which not only causes bottled up heartache on the short term, but also ignorance on how to deal with recurrent and chronic emotional problems long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 10:12 PM
1

I think you need to take a look at what actually happens to women during war I know, horrible things happen to men too. But that's not the point. Those things aren't state mandated, unlike the selective draft. Anyways, you can't honestly believe there's not a single fucking woman left in the Ukraine. That's utter horse shit. I never fuckin said that. I said only men got sent to the front lines to fight and die. You talked about a violation of body autonomy (true) and how the evil men don't care …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 08:38 PM
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Men are getting drafted to fight and die in countries like Ukraine while women are allowed to leave. We have become desensitized to men dying brutally. Women don't care, girls especially don't care. But sure. Men evil women good. Whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:40 PM
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If this is a woman she's a piece of shit. If this is a man his level of "I'm not like those other guys" is over 9000. And is also a piece of shit.
/r/EverydayMisandry07/11/24 06:46 PM
4

Good for you to listen and being open minded!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/24 03:12 AM
24

No, she put obvious effort into trying to bring men in. #WhiteDudesForHarris etc. Did she offer something for men? Or did she simply say that men had to vote for her?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/24 02:53 AM
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The hivemind disapproved.
/r/EverydayMisandry06/11/24 11:36 PM
11

I'm positively surprised there are people calling the abuser out though. There are a few reasonable people there, even if they are I dunno, maybe one in fifty.
/r/EverydayMisandry06/11/24 11:35 PM
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Preach.
/r/EverydayMisandry06/11/24 05:31 PM
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I think it's tacitly and even explicitly accepted as fact that most if not almost all high level politicians are shitty people, so it's a matter of picking which one amongst the pile of shit benefits you the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:16 PM
50

"Why do so many of you hate us?" We could ask the same about them.
/r/EverydayMisandry06/11/24 02:43 PM
5

Alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 03:45 AM
1

You are right for the most part and I appreciate the calling out you make. That being said, I think that the reverse of this would generate more pushback. It is more socially acceptable to "ironically" shit on men than on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 03:27 AM
5

Would you be this detached and indifferent about examples of woman hating?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 03:25 AM
9

Would you say the same about misogynistic crap online? That it's just rage bait and we shouldn't take it seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 03:23 AM
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Something so basic yet so difficult to understand for some people...
/r/EverydayMisandry03/11/24 09:54 PM
24

mIsAnDrY iSnT rEaL¡¡¡
/r/EverydayMisandry03/11/24 09:54 PM
1

Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 10:33 PM
1

I agree on the premise that probably giving less of a shit about the hateful and insane section of feminism, is better for one's own mental and emotional health. Arguing with those people is pointless, draining and it causes unnecessary anger and frustration. Just calling them out for the stupid and moronic people they are when they poke their ugly heads and then not engage any further, should be enough. That being said I have one question. Don't you think people also apply this confirmation bia…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 08:39 PM
3

Pretty privilege is very real and a bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 07:04 PM
2

How?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:09 PM
2

Good to know 👍🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 04:10 PM
4

Feminists support abolishing the draft altogether Well that's very nice on paper but who's gonna defend the country if it's invaded?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 04:05 PM
2

I don't hate feminism as a whole, I think it's a movement that has greatly helped women's rights and remains necessary so that women don't lose those rights. I hate the section of feminism that overlaps with misandry. And I find the feminists that dismiss advocacy for men as redundant and unnecessary since "feminism already does that" as dishonest and disingenuous. Feminism has it's place. Regulating what is valid and not valid advocacy for men is not it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 04:02 PM
2

I think we need to treat what I believe is the root cause for many men's over fixation with sex: The societal push for men to be sexually successful and it's disdain when they are not. Unlike what you may think, not only men but also women look down on men who struggle to get laid. They see them as losers, weirdos, even creeps. As if they are not "normal" and "there's something wrong with them". Because to society, a man must both desire sex and get it in great quantities in order to be a real m…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 05:26 PM
1

The /s remains sadly necessary on Reddit it would seem. I'm mocking the talking point, not defending it. It's the most common defense of double standards regarding spewing hate for men and for women, that people in the askfeminists sub use. According to them for example, women hating and wishing bad things on men on social media is "punching up" and men doing the same to women is dangerous misogyny. All because of the oppressor oppressed dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:08 PM
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But men are the oppressor class and women are the oppressed so we can't apply the same logic. Or something like that I dunno.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:53 PM
3

I want to believe most of them are just engaging in bad taste sarcasm in some attempt to say "you see!? This is what happens to women all the time!" rather than genuinely thinking this shit is remotely funny. I'd still find it obnoxious and inappropriate but at least it wouldn't make me lose faith in humanity.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/10/24 01:33 AM
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I think there was some legitimate concern and good intentions there considering the owner did try to step up in defense of the battered man (when many people would have just ignored it, let's be honest), but the good will got limited by business mentality: Bars need to prioritize attracting women so that men will follow.
/r/EverydayMisandry08/10/24 12:21 AM
6

You sure seem like an empathetic person...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 07:20 AM
15

I'd say there's a bit of both.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/09/24 09:33 PM
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The funny and sad thing is, many feminists express hate towards that sub regardless of its pandering. Sure, they do recommend it as the "healthy" way of talking about men's issues... But they still shit on it lmfao. No male advocacy is ever gonna be "correct" enough for many feminists, no matter how much they self flagellate and parrot feminist talking points. Menslib is trying to earn the approval of people that despise them on principle.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/09/24 09:22 PM
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The funny and sad thing is, many feminists express hate towards that sub regardless of its pandering. Sure, they do recommend it as the "healthy" way of talking about men's issues... But they still shit on it lmfao. No male advocacy is ever gonna be "correct" enough for many feminists, no matter how much they self flagellate and parrot feminist talking points. Menslib is trying to earn the approval of people that despise them on principle.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/09/24 09:22 PM
3

I'm happy for both you and him to have each other. And nah, you don't sound cringe at all. If there's anyone you should be able to confide and cuddle with even as an adult, it's a parent. I'm sure he also appreciates having such a loving daughter, men tend to become kinda lonely as they grow older. I'm 26 years old and I sometimes do the same with my mother, who is the person that loves me the most and that I love the most (I love my dad too, he's great, but I have an easier time being vulnerabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:52 PM
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Shieeeet, those women sound unhinged and creepy, particularly the son fucking ones. I hope you never have to deal with one like that. I'm not american, I'm argentinian, although my answer was based on things I've usually seen in both american and argentinian movies and tv shows, and to a lesser extent real life. Many times I've seen cases of the boyfriend having to "earn the approval" of the father of his girlfriend who in principle treats him coldly and even aggressively (which now that I think…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:37 PM
2

Tbf, there are also tons of cases like this but gender swapped. Fathers (or older brothers) that threaten any boyfriend of their little girl with serious bad shit if "he ever hurts her" or "doesn't make her happy" and that is usually portrayed by entertainment as endearingly protective behavior, even in the cases of buff middle aged men bullying male teenagers. Parents that act like some weird kind of sexual and romantic guardians of their opposite sex children are not that uncommon on neither g…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 09:48 PM
10

Oh I've been there. It's an endless source of irritation and frustration.
/r/EverydayMisandry20/09/24 04:53 PM
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You know what? Fine! I'm totally fine with feminism not giving a crap about men. But don't backtrack on this and pretend otherwise as a way to win an argument. Don't start with the "feminism is good for men too" to lure guys to the movement, and for fuck sake, stop claiming that the only valid and non misogynistic way of addressing men's problems is through a feminist lens. No, it's fuckin not. Feminism considers men the oppressor class, the advantaged class, it tolerates bashing on men as a who…
/r/EverydayMisandry20/09/24 04:36 PM
10

What an insane piece of shit.
/r/MensRights14/09/24 01:58 AM
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I have my fingers ready for that.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/09/24 06:06 PM
2

Yikes. I hope you don't have sons ever. Edit: Seeing your post history, I can tell you went through a lot of suffering and I'm sorry for that, plus at some point you at least tried to empathize with men. Still, you need to urgently educate yourself about this topic dude, what you spouted in here was very ignorant and sadly, a very common misconception about this subject. I hope the backlash serves you as a wake up call. Good luck.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/09/24 12:15 PM
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Yeah I think she's projecting haaaaard.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/09/24 01:03 AM
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When done by a man to a woman. Very important clarification. I doubt they feel so repulsed about other variants of rape.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/09/24 01:02 AM
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Feminists would call that "being a decent human being" or "being one of the good ones". Lmfao.
/r/EverydayMisandry09/09/24 02:52 PM
8

He's absolutely not projecting guys! Just trust him on this one! He's one of the good ones!
/r/EverydayMisandry09/09/24 02:51 PM
13

You were far more polite than she deserved. What a dignified burn. Let her choke in her bitterness and hatred.
/r/EverydayMisandry09/09/24 01:41 AM
7

Excellent news.
/r/EverydayMisandry09/09/24 01:39 AM
12

Unhinged and vile lunatics will always exist. The real concerning thing is that this bullshit has 1170 likes.
/r/EverydayMisandry08/09/24 05:48 PM
35

But that's obviously post partum depression kicking in. So it doesn't count! . . . . . /S
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/24 05:10 PM
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👏👏👏👏👏
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/24 12:54 PM
3

The thread is already bad on its own, but commenting this under a post about a man getting fuckin castrated is nothing less than insane and psychotic. I hope nobody in there has sons ever.
/r/EverydayMisandry29/08/24 03:58 PM
16

I agree with all of this. In regards to your point about feminists hating not only the Red Pill (which to some extent I understand) but also this sub, I think it's pretty telling that, while they always point out the menslib sub as the "proper" way of talking about men's issues... They also seem to hate them too, or at least very heavily criticize them. Menslib's premise is basically "men's problems are our own fault, we must be better for the sake of men and specially for the sake of women". Th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/24 06:12 PM
15

What a fuckin monster. I hope the son remembers this and goes no contact with her the moment he's financially independent and manages to reconnect with his dad.
/r/EverydayMisandry21/08/24 03:00 PM
31

Basically we are fucked by both sides of the political spectrum lmao.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/24 01:42 PM
2

I'd say pussywhipped is still widely used.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 05:57 PM
5

More than misandry, I'd say this is straight up being a perverted creep.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/08/24 04:11 PM
6

Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:44 PM
9

I was under the impression that that sub is essentially "our problems as men are our own fault, we need to do better for ourselves and for women".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:08 PM
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Excellent job. Calling him an entitled whiny little rodent is gonna make him so much more open to listen to you. Congrats. Edit: And of course you post on twoX and Whitepeopletwitter. Shocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:22 AM
5

The gender based double standards go both ways though. A guy being controlling and possessive of his girlfriend, who even escalates to physical threats sometimes? A creepy, narcissistic and sociopathic abuser who should get beat up and whom that woman needs to dump urgently. Same thing with genders reversed? Haha funny, the guy is getting pussywhipped, pathetic. Besides he probably pissed her off. An adult man raping a teenage girl? Someone please castrate and sodomize him to death. Same thing g…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:40 AM
42

"You should be like me. I'm one of the good ones."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/07/24 11:37 PM
8

Based Phil.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/07/24 10:47 PM
15

Men are not afraid that women will laugh at them. Men are afraid that society, men and women alike, will continue to foster a hostile environment for vulnerability and that the male suicide rate will continue to break records every single year. "But that's cuz patriarchy and toxic masculinity! If men only submitted... I mean, became feminists and joined us in taking down the patriarchy everything would be fine!"
/r/EverydayMisandry10/07/24 10:46 PM
5

Women are generally extremely nice, supportive, caring, and friendly with other women. It's once you involve men that some women side with men and be less nice to women "Women are nice and when they are not it's men's fault." 🙄🙄🙄. Seriously, this reminded me of Billie Ellish unironically saying things like "women are nice they don't judge people by their appearance they see people for who they really are"... When in another interview she herself is judging how beautiful women can be with "horrib…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:24 PM
1

I get that it was five years ago but damn, we are still super underdeveloped in understanding and condemning female on male rape or SA. When people think of rape, they instinctively think of a man doing it to a woman. A man doing it to another man, a woman to another woman, or a woman to a man? People acknowledge from a logical and theory place that it can happen, but they don't feel nearly as repulsed and angry as with the "default" form of rape.
/r/EverydayMisandry30/06/24 05:23 PM
2

Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:32 PM
10

I've heard something worse, at least online: That after a certain age, it's reasonable to assume that any men that remain single must be creeps or even pedos.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:25 PM
16

In recent decades there has been an effort to "destigmatize" single women. There should also be one for men IMO. Boys could use being told growing up that they don't need to "get a girl" to be real men. Before the I'm Kenough phrase, I never saw anything resembling that message aimed at us.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:22 PM
28

And among women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:18 PM
3

In one particular example women were blaming the patriarchy for women reacting in a toxic manner to their male SO's when the guy opens up. That's not patriarchy, that's toxic femininity. That is if they even acknowledge the behavior as a bad thing lmao. It's also possible that they decide to take the woman's side and assume that the guy must have been trauma dumping her, or forcing her into emotional labor or something.
/r/EverydayMisandry28/06/24 06:47 PM
4

Tbh, I don't mind if they want feminism to be exclusively about women's issues. Just... Don't switch definitions to lure men in and don't invade men's spaces to try to shame us about our toxic masculinity or whatever the hell, feminists.
/r/EverydayMisandry28/06/24 06:39 PM
22

I hope the dad has custody.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/24 11:12 PM
35

"But feminism cares about men too something something, renounce your toxic masculinity and submit to us something something."
/r/EverydayMisandry27/06/24 09:43 PM
65

Yeah, the "not all men" is open to being interpreted as "still, most men do this". "Most men don't" is more accurate and effective.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/24 09:29 PM
29

LMAO, that post didn't go like that artist hoped. She's being very called out and questioned. Not by everyone but by quite a significant fraction. And that's not counting the maaaany removed comments haha. That was nice to see.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/24 09:26 PM
82

Oh shit, she has a son... Poor little dude.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/24 09:21 PM
58

But Billie Eilish said girls are nice and see people for what they really are... or something! You dare suggest that she was wrong!?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/24 09:20 PM
1

At least it's just a matter of wording since, while it's named differently, rape committed by women carries the same sentence as rape committed by men, according to that article. Although you are right in that on a macro scale, it makes rape statistics unreliable and inaccurate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/24 03:46 PM
20

Bro this is so ridiculous that it's hilarious lmao. I can't even take it seriously.
/r/EverydayMisandry23/06/24 04:35 AM
3

You want him to say "other men" right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 10:35 PM
47

The same people that constantly whine about "pick me girls" call the "pick me boys" something like "being a decent human being" or "doing the bare minimum, the bar is in hell".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/24 06:47 PM
13

"wHiCh iS nOt tHe sAmE¡¡¡"
/r/EverydayMisandry19/06/24 01:24 PM
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Do you have a source?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 05:06 AM
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In other words, men bond side by side whereas women bond face to face. Or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 08:49 PM
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Wow, what a tragic and unfortunate development as a person your friend had. I pity him.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/24 01:24 PM
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Do you think it's equally as nonsensical? Or do you find men hating women far more evil and dangerous than the reverse?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 05:46 PM
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sighs Let me guess, you also think women hating men is understandable and not nearly as bad as men hating women, since the former "only hurts our fee fees" whereas the latter automatically results in murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 05:45 PM
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It’s perfectly normal to have a bad set of experiences with women. But that’s because they are simply people, not because of their gender. It would seem many women struggle to apply this logic to men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 05:41 AM
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Good for her and your dad! Like I said in another comment, I guess the universal limit for women for having kids is somewhere in their forties.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:57 PM
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I'm faaaar from a feminist, and you seem kinda unhinged.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 02:18 PM
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Holy crap, I had no idea. Very interesting information. Also who wants to be looking after a newborn in their late 40s or early 50s? Yeah I'm not even sure I want to do that in my 30s and I absolutely don't want to do that now in my 20s hehe.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 12:46 PM
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Yeah, sometimes I'm a bit curious and melancholic about not having siblings. But then I hear about stories of severe money or power struggles between siblings (particularly in rich and/or criminal families) and I'm like "well, at least I won't go through that lol".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 12:35 PM
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I don't know if their "attractiveness" fades with age any more than men's attractiveness does. Both women and men can keep themselves attractive if they put the effort. What is true is that women have a way shorter period in life to have babies. If I'm not wrong most women's limit is at their forties whereas men can have kids from puberty until death more or less (a while ago I read about De Niro having a child at 70 or 80 years old IIRC).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 12:32 PM
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Yeah I guess it's true. My mother had me at 34 (my dad was 38) and couldn't have another baby after me. So, the only child I was.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 12:28 PM
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I haven't been cold approached much in general in my life but I have been complimented by random men telling me I'm beautiful. Is that a cold approach? Was this a good, bad or awkward experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 12:06 PM
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Men aren't some damn hive mind or monolith.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 12:26 AM
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Malice, cruelty, perversion and hate are not gendered. It's something so basic that it's amazing how people become blinded enough by ideologies to not realize it.
/r/EverydayMisandry08/06/24 06:38 PM
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What do you mean I'm not smarter, wiser and more knowledgeable than people that lived twice or thrice as much as me? That is exactly what a boomer would say!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 06:36 PM
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But feminism is for men too guys, I don't get why men aren't feminists. The common enemy is patriarchy something something.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/24 09:32 PM
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The bizarre and funny thing is, people in the ask feminists sub both recommend it when wanting to push away from their space the "talk about men", and also they occasionally criticize it as "misogynistic". Like... No amount of self censorship, catering to feminism, and eggshell walking is ever going to make those feminists content with a male advocacy sub. They are unlikely to admit it openly, but they seem to resent the very concept of male advocacy.
/r/EverydayMisandry05/06/24 11:51 PM
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Menslib used to be a neat place to discuss male issues without judgement, but in recent years it has become something of a "controlled opposition" kind of sub for feminists. In fact, the people at the ask feminists sub always recommend it, and bizarrely, sometimes they do complain about the misogyny of that place despite the heavy levels of self censorship on any criticism to feminism. It's feminist approved male advocacy, which unsurprisingly, is very limited, superficial, centered on "being be…
/r/EverydayMisandry05/06/24 09:57 PM
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These kinds of women have a very narrow and romanticized idea of "men showing feelings". The feelings they want to see are the ones that serve them, the women. Things like guys being more demonstrative of his love, or crying for her, or being dedicated to provide for her, that kind of thing. They couldn't care any less about feelings that don't make them feel good about themselves. No no, that's just "baggage" "trauma dumping" and "emotional labor".
/r/EverydayMisandry30/05/24 03:18 PM
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Also feminists: Feminism is for men too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/24 12:59 PM
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Tbh, I find the virtue signaling "I hate men, as long as they are white, straight and cis. The others are fine cuz oppression" almost equally as insufferable.
/r/EverydayMisandry29/05/24 05:38 PM
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Yep. They just want to manipulate and lure men into becoming willing punching up bags I mean allies.
/r/EverydayMisandry29/05/24 04:10 PM
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Or you can see women also getting mad when the argument is made against them. I checked it and it's both worse and better than I thought. Worse because the women mocking or dismissing the guy are apparently doing so in the possible context of a guy referencing a sexual assault on himself. Better because most people on the Twitter thread are calling those women out, even people that otherwise agree with the man vs bear usage.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/24 10:40 PM
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Sometimes I pity them, sometimes I find them even more insufferable than female misandrists, sometimes I feel disdain for them. Overall... I don't hold them in high regard. Which I guess it coincides with how they see themselves. Unless of course they pompously consider themselves "the exception" or "one of the good ones".
/r/EverydayMisandry21/05/24 08:27 PM
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👏👏👏👏
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/24 01:42 PM
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This comment is a mine gold to prove the BS claim of "misogyny kills misandry just hurts your fee fees" wrong.
/r/EverydayMisandry21/05/24 02:28 AM
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And feminists then have the gal to state that the only valid way to address abuse of men is through a feminist lens due to "patriarchy". A movement that explicitly treats women as oppressed and men as oppressors isn't gonna do wonders in acknowledging the latter group's problems. Shocker I know. Who would have thought so?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/24 06:39 PM
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I'm not a fan of it, but not because I think it means "all masculinity is toxic". I don't think that's what people mean with that phrase, more often than not. But still, I really don't like it since the people that say it, kinda use it to subtly victim blame men for their problems or to oversimplify them. "Men's issues are because of toxic masculinity. If only they cried more, showed their feelings more and weren't so misogynistic, they would be fine." It basically implies that men's problems ar…
/r/EverydayMisandry19/05/24 09:09 PM
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"Misandry doesn't exist. And even if it does, it's rare. And even if it's not rare, it's not as bad as misogyny. And even if it's as bad as misogyny, well it's just a response to misogyny." It's scary. Not only the unhinged and vile people like the ones in the post, but the many more people that dismiss or justify their existence.
/r/EverydayMisandry19/05/24 04:52 PM
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People are generally not as good as they think they are managing another person's vulnerability and emotions. But it's worse with men since there's the deeply ingrained expectation that men should be "the rocks" of the relationship and seeing them break down destroys that illusion which causes disgust.
/r/EverydayMisandry19/05/24 04:53 AM
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As ridiculous and bigoted as that radfem is, there are a few interesting points I can rescue from her babbling, after doing some filtering. I think many people, men and women, are deep down capable of doing something so heinous as fucking a child if they were certain enough that they could get away with it. There are two things to consider: Firstly, part of what makes humans not destroy each other are laws and the threat of ostracization and jail, it's not just pure morality and empathy. Secondl…
/r/EverydayMisandry19/05/24 12:29 AM
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Yeah I agree. I feel like rape, despite how people outwardly treat it as this particularly vile and insidious crime even worse than murder, is deep down seen by people not as an universally bad thing, but as a bad thing depending on who is the victim. A woman getting raped? Is (rightfully of course) always seen as an evil thing even if the woman herself is a POS... specially if done by a man. At least in the West. In the Middle East things are far more misogynistic. A man getting raped? It depen…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/05/24 10:30 PM
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Well you are doing something pretty similar to what you are calling out. You are generalizing about dads being inattentive, useless and apathetic in contrast to the oh so dedicated and wholesome mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 04:43 PM
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I only jumped in to argue about how in the same comment you questioned judging women for their choices when there's a society pushing them to make them (that's fine) but then you dismissed the point of men getting hurt and dying more often in their jobs as "well they choose that, men just like taking risks". I wanted to point out the contradiction of only recognizing societal influence on women but not on men. This was never about how I value women's work in the home.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:30 PM
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I think you are confusing me for someone else, I never argued that women's labor in the home wasn't "earning their keep" or "working less".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 07:00 PM
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I do agree that work inside the house should be as appreciated and well regarded as work outside the house. That being said, you only offered context and an explanation for women's choices whereas you treated men taking risks and hurting themselves and even dying more often, as just "well but men choose this, it's on them". On one hand, you argue that society "makes" women choose house work, and at the same time you argue that men cant complain or point out their greater propensity for injury an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:05 PM
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Women choose to overwhelmingly take on more domestic labor than men. Sure but that’s because men won’t do it and women are judged more harshly for not doing it. So you make excuses for women's choices making it a societal issue. Buuuuut... Again, not remotely true. Men are far more likely to be seriously injured or die than women at every stage of life. Men die earlier, commit suicide more, suffer debilitating conditions more, and put themselves at risk more. As a corollary women specific health…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:40 PM
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Wait, really?
/r/EverydayMisandry12/05/24 07:21 PM
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I took a peak at the comment section and I think I lost a few brain cells. Hordes of self righteous bigots patting themselves on the back about how justified is their hate and how proud they are of it. One woman in there even takes offense at the mere existence of the word misandry. They are fuckin insane. Also, thank you for your words OP ♥️.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/05/24 04:09 PM
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Let's hope so. Because if said unironically it's fuckin horrible.
/r/EverydayMisandry11/05/24 07:59 PM
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Bigotry is stupid and asinine, and it leads to stupid and asinine takes like the first and third slides. Misogynists, misandrists, and also people with internalized bigotry, can fuck off.
/r/EverydayMisandry11/05/24 07:58 PM
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Or alternatively, when a person is in no position to tell you to stop.
/r/EverydayMisandry11/05/24 03:19 PM
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Awesome story and awesome woman.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/24 11:54 PM
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manospherians This sounds like a fuckin alien race lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:01 PM
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Thanks. Glad to see you really knew what you were talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 03:40 PM
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"Akshually false accusations of rape are rarer than the possibility of a gamma ray destroying the earth sweetie 💅🏻💅🏻. Men are far more likely to be raped than to be falsely accused of rape. And do you know who commits most rapes? That's right, OTHER MEN! (No, made to penetrate doesn't count, that's not rape) So if anything, men should be wary of other men!"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:31 PM
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Because feminists advocate and protest for women's rights. Cool. Then please don't try to lure men to the movement via "feminism cares about men too" when it's not true. Define yourselves as women advocates.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:27 PM
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there's a lot of issues for men already Could you name a few? Outside of the overused to hell "toxic masculinity" talking point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:24 PM
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Yeah I felt similarly while reading this. On one hand I appreciate her not rationalizing or trying to justify her "ick" and actually trying to move past it in order to support the guy. On the other, it paints a pretty... Grim idea about how many women are probably dismissive of men's feelings and not even acknowledging that as a bad thing. I don't want to get into gender essentialism, but it would seem that to some extent, women are kinda... Instinctually bothered by men's vulnerability that doe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/24 10:53 PM
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Positive masculinity (being self sacrificial, protective and the "rock" of the relationship) is just toxic/traditional masculinity left only with the parts that benefit women. And it's still toxic for men themselves, no matter how convenient it is for women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/24 12:49 AM
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You seem to suffer from internalized misandry then, considering how obsessively you dismiss female on male rape. Edit: And of course, you are a feminist, and someone who operates on "men bad women good" gender essentialism, judging by your post history. I'm soooo shocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 05:18 AM
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The man can freeze. The man can be afraid of hurting her. The man can be drugged. The man can be blackout drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 05:14 AM
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1 in 9 men have been made to penetrate (almost always by a woman). Boys are almost as frequently molested as girls, specially by female nannies and teachers. Female behavior is a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 10:09 PM
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Talk about taking a third option.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:15 PM
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What would weigh more in their minds? Their fear and hate towards men, or their fear and hate towards the possibility of being perceived as racist? Imagining the mental struggle is almost amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 02:27 PM
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The page.
/r/EverydayMisandry28/04/24 12:14 AM
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That name 😂😂
/r/EverydayMisandry28/04/24 12:10 AM
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And your source for this is that you made it the fuck up, plus some good old gender essentialist "women are caring and nurturing, men are shallow and only care for sex" stereotypes. Just be honest and admit you like gender roles when they suit you 😂😂.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:12 PM
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Funny how it's always the man the one called cheap for not wanting to pay for his GF/wife in these discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 09:42 PM
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What's even crazier is that I don't think any of the women from this clip were hosting during that episode Possibly. It was several years ago and members probably change with time. It would seem that the assholery and shallowness always remain no matter who sits on those chairs tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 06:07 PM
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It's far from the worst thing those assholes have said. A few years ago, the women of The View mocked and laughed at the news of a man getting castrated by his wife after he asked her for a divorce, and then started theorizing about in which circumstances they would be capable of castrating their husbands, all while giggling. When one of them kinda shyly pointed out that the news of a man raping or mutilating his wife wouldn't be taken so lightly, another simply replied "it's different" and made…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 05:56 PM
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Not saying that all, or even most, feminists hate men, but like other people have said, a person can despise a group without acknowledging that they despise them. In general, I've noticed that feminists don't outright hate men, but instead they have a vision of them closer to this: "I don't hate men, I have men in my life that I love. I can't blame, however, any woman that does hate them, since she probably has good reasons."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 05:51 PM
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Men can express themselves more freely and don’t have to play the macho-men-don’t cry card How? Feminists advocated for equal parental leave policies that benefit both men and women and equal parental rights when it came to issues such as visitation and custody I guess...? Would you say the family court favoring mothers over fathers is just a myth? Feminism helped raise awareness of mental health issues for both men and women. More awareness, resources, and support networks benefit anyone who ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 05:42 PM
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Aren't these the same group of assholes that laughed about a guy getting his penis chopped off by his wife after he asked for a divorce?
/r/EverydayMisandry24/04/24 10:13 PM
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Well said. Love the "adult up". Non gendered and fair. Edit: It's a bit ironic that the words whiner and winner are so similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 11:20 PM
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Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:03 PM
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I'll be more direct since you didn't address my comment. Would you consider your husband asking you for support while he's depressed or sad or frustrated about something that doesn't involve you or your kid, but himself and his own life, to be something you welcome? Or would it be emotional labor and treating you like a therapist and would give you the ick?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:01 PM
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I'm a bit curious about the example you gave, since it involves being emotional about another person and in the service/for the sake of another person, in a way. Some women (not all, and not necessarily you) openly demand men to "show emotion" and "be vulnerable" with them... But only a certain kind of emotion. The kind that they (the women) can feel good about or is useful to them. For example the dude telling them how much they love them, how devoted they are to them, how they would be nothing…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 09:37 PM
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Even without rape and coercion, condoms do sometimes fail. Not often, but they do.
/r/EverydayMisandry17/04/24 03:31 PM
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r/whiteknighting
/r/EverydayMisandry17/04/24 01:35 AM
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She either secretly hates them as well or considers them part of "the good ones" so "they shouldn't feel offended by her comments".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/24 09:14 PM
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Old but still very very relevant. I'm positively surprised about the first mutilator being given life in jail and I felt very identified with the male victim on there merely saying that "he hopes he never sees her again". Because I believe that's the main desire of victims of abuse, behind the occasional and nonetheless justified rage and hatred: Not necessarily for the abuser to suffer and die, but merely to never see them again and for them to not hurt anyone else. And kudos to that lady calli…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/24 10:11 PM
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Not only men think with the wrong organ sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 12:05 PM
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Unless the guy is being pushy or gross, I don't think it's justified being an asshole about rejecting him. If you do, yes it does reflect badly on your character.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:17 AM
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Someone who sees single or divorced men as paedophiles would be seen as mentally ill. I would hope so. It is hard to adopt children as only one person, there'd be a reason for that. Yeah it's preferable for a child to have two parents or more raising them. I can agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 09:31 PM
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Middle aged single women aren't seen as potential pedos by some people like it happens with middle aged single men. Crazy cat ladies at the very worst. Don't believe me? Check how hard it is for single men to adopt children. I think you'll realize why without even investigating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 09:26 PM
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Not if you say No Homo before the first drop of saliva falls from your mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 07:42 PM
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I agree with this. In my country Argentina we legally define rape as "sexual abuse with carnal access" and it includes introducing objects or body parts through the vagina, anus or mouth. Sadly, I don't know if it truly considers made to penetrate as an example of this crime or not. A few years ago, a 37 year old woman groomed a 14 year boy to have sex and when he resisted, she outright forced him to fuck her. She was charged with sexual abuse with carnal access and initially was given a penalty…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 10:44 PM
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He just never tells me "no" and never rains on my parade. He always meets my needs and wants. Other men are like "I want this, I'm going to do this, my woman must follow and do what I want". I'm like "I want this, I want to do this, it would make me happy." and my bf goes "Alright I should make this possible for her, whatever makes her happy." That's nice. Do you treat him the same way? Because you did mention that you are "the boss".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 06:39 PM
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This 👆👆👆
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 03:57 PM
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How are you the boss of him? Just curiousity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 03:53 PM
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I'm glad as an Argentinian that I never had to either. Not that Biden is any better than Hillary from what I've seen.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/24 04:32 PM
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This so many times. So many feminists don't realize (or pretend not to) how tainted by traditionalism and old gender roles their feminism is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/24 04:31 PM
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This part is largely true though. People parrot that statistic about guys not getting custody nearly as much but don't understand how much of it is due to so many men literally not trying to get any custody. Maybe the phenomenon is overblown, but I can't see it being completely fabricated. I've heard many stories of violent, substance abusing, and alienating mothers being given custody of the children by partial judges while the father struggles to see them. In my country Argentina at least, it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 06:09 AM
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Clears their throat Child custody Ejem, sweety, akshually family courts don't discriminate against men, it's just that most men are deadbeat dads that don't care about their children. When they do claim custody, they get it! 💅🏻. Criminal justice Well akshually, that's misogyny! Women get lighter sentences because they are seen as weaker and harmless... And besides, you don't know the context behind female criminals! They may be desperate or abuse victims! Not like male criminals no no, those are…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 04:17 AM
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The misandrist and Heard supporters go even beyond that, for what I've seen. They call what Heard did "reactive abuse". So it wasn't even an isolated incident to them, Heard did nothing wrong at all as far as they are concerned.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/24 11:05 PM
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"Women are the primary victims of domestic violence against men. Their fathers, husbands, sons and brothers get beat up."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/24 11:03 PM
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Yeah but what you say could also be encapsulated on the second one. I think feminism is still necessary in the present. But it should either not have a monopoly on the talk of sexism, or include men as victims of sexism as well.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/24 11:45 PM
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The first three are very valid criticisms. The latter two not so much.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/24 11:08 PM
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Those men are fuckin r[EDACTED].
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:25 PM
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I can agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:51 PM
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What would you call girls being allowed to punch or slap boys but not the reverse? Isn't that spoiled too?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:45 PM
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Boys are usually more spoon fed and given more leeway than girls. His studies are bad oh it's because he's got a lot going on. If your studies are bad as a girl you are not applying yourself. Boys are given more grace. Grace that's not given to daughters because we should know better. Eeeeeeh I don't think things are as one sidedly in favor of boys and against girls as you are putting it in here. Boys and men are also conditioned to grow up quickly, just in different ways. They are forced to not…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:19 PM
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IIRC an organization of Russian feminists marched against Putin so that he would stop conscripting Russian men to the war with Ukraine. If true, that was pretty brave, considering... Well, it's Putin who they were challenging.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/24 10:45 AM
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I'm a guy and this kind of happens to me too. I prefer some affection or at least a casual mutual liking with a woman I'm gonna have sex with. It's like that gives the sex a little extra shot of enjoyment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:58 PM
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On the original thread I already have a guy/gal saying to me that this is impossible. When I ask them why, they refuse to elaborate. It seems they just "know" or "feel" that it is impossible.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/24 11:43 PM
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I guess I have a bit of a mix of tropes in my memory regarding rom coms or stories involving romance that are usually... Not very pleasant for the male in the scenario. Women slapping men considered either funny or deserved. The father/brother of the girl outright harassing, intimidating or even threatening the guy about "you better treat 'x' right". The guy and the girl arguing and the guy always having to be the one who apologizes (IIRC there's a scene in one transformers movie that lampshades…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 10:59 PM
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It's arguable how frequent this is in real life, but many rom coms seem to consist on the guy one sidedly devoted to please and pamper the girl, whose only contribution to the relationship is... Being pretty I guess? I suppose this is were the other person is getting the idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 10:39 PM
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Some times people use the argument why would people lie about it when it’s hard to come forward. Well the reason it’s hard is because A : you have to relive and retell your trauma. If you didn’t actually have trauma it’s just testing your acting skills. B: you might not be believed. Well if you’re a liar you know it’s a lie and it’s just another chance to test your acting skills. C: you’ll face public scrutiny. If you’re crazy enough to make false accusations then you likely want the limelight a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 03:31 PM
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"There I said it. I'm one of the good ones now, right ladies?"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/24 07:46 PM
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I think you are half right. Being an asshole for status is a very high school thing. But lots of people never grow out of their teenage years. Workplace drama and pseudo politics are a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 02:09 PM
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Ironic misandry something something men oppressors women oppressed something something punching up something something.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/24 05:16 PM
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I feel like they are on a weird limbo of sorts. On one hand, they want to take credit for "caring about men too". On the other, they express annoyance or outright hostility at the idea of men having problems comparable to women's and doing something about it. They go full "it's not feminism's job to help men, gtfo". They want to be seen as the benevolent helpers of undeserving men, whom should tread lightly and be grateful that feminism even cares about them at all.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/24 06:44 PM
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Gender studies and feminism exam. First question: How do you answer to the following statement. Men have been oppressed for thousands of years A) "That's a lie." B) "Maybe, but it was by other men." C) Laugh. D) All are correct.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/24 06:38 PM
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Privilege is a very loaded word, we associate it with luxury, comfort, elite, even when the person saying it doesn't necessarily mean those things. So of course it's gonna rub people the wrong way when feminists say that a homeless, abused and mentally ill man is "privileged" for being a man, and a billionaire woman isn't privileged.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/24 06:35 PM
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Other areas of society will praise them for being virgins. Such as? Most won't care. Most people won't outwardly be hostile true, but they will look down on a man once they realize his low body count. One of the things women claim to like the most about men is them being experienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:22 PM
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Those are virgins, which may or may not be bitter and assholes about it (incels). The problem with incels is rooted in a lack of self love and self worth, not in desperation for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:15 PM
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I'm generally more affectionate and protective of my female friends and relatives than the male ones. I always accompany my women friends to their homes at night, I have no problem always listening to them vent about similar stuff multiple times, or to offer them a shoulder to cry on or a hand to squeeze when they feel sad or in distress. Pretty basic and ordinary things tbh. It's not that I don't love my male friends and relatives, or that I love them less. It's just that with them our mutual w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 10:28 PM
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Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 04:36 PM
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Too bad this is also applied to raped men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:05 AM
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I read it with Tuco Salamanca's voice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 01:42 PM
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This is it. All humans are selfish, most learn to balance it with empathy and morals. Some don't. Just look at how many dudes here want women to be "traditional", but are entirely unwilling to be traditional men themselves. The female equivalent would be a woman who wants to be cherished, comforted and protected when in need for emotional support, but feeling repulsed when her man needs the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 12:27 PM
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I have no problem with women not liking men who act, as you would put it, "like a bitch". I do have a problem with women that don't like that, but expect men to be accepting, patient, and empathetic when women act "like a bitch". Standards/rules for thee but not for me are a big no no.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 12:36 AM
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She'll probably say "toxic masculinity" 🙄🙄
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/24 06:00 PM
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Go to the feminism sub and 3 of 5 posts will be about "why men are such assholes about x thing?" Go to the askfeminists sub and you'll find several people openly admitting that they apply double standards for men and women because of the nebulous concept of "men are the oppressor class and women the oppressed class".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:05 PM
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But men are the oppressors according to my gender studies class so it's justified something something.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/24 06:31 PM
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Many women also report feeling more comfortable with male than female bosses. Why? Likely because the female boss will see through all the bullshit lol. It's not internalized misogyny it's the realization that women will not white knight for them. This reminds me of my mom's experience. She used to work as an executive in a company, the environment was super toxic and she always told me she liked her male subordinates better than her female ones, who were far gossiper, phony and ruthless. Tbf, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:17 PM
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I don't think many women outright believe "all women are good". But I do think a significant portion of women believe something along the lines of "women tend to be better people than men". This can manifest in delusional takes like the recent Billie eilish one about how women don't judge men for their looks because "they are nice". Or on a broader way, many people pushing for the metoo movement kind of tried to enforce the notion that a woman should be held in a higher regard than a man on sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 05:04 AM
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I don't think many women outright believe "all women are good". But I do think a significant portion of women believe something along the lines of "women tend to be better people than men". This can manifest in delusional takes like the recent Billie eilish one about how women don't judge men for their looks because "they are nice". Or on a broader way, many people pushing for the metoo movement kind of tried to enforce the notion that a woman should be held in a higher regard than a man on sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 05:03 AM
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Basically the same people that nag about "toxic masculinity". I've come to really hate that term for a number of reasons. Yes, I know it doesn't mean all masculinity is toxic, that's not my problem with it. What irks me about it is that the people using it (usually feminists) act like all of men's problems can be summed up with toxic masculinity, in other words, if men weren't such misogynistic assholes and acted more like women, they would be fine and all of their problems would disappear. It's…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 04:58 AM
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Tribalistic humans can't help but "other" other groups of humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 04:52 AM
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Not all men but enough men something something.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 06:07 PM
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Again, how brave and revolutionary of you. I can't think of a better way to spend my time. Good luck on your mission queen.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 03:48 AM
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So you oppose patriarchy by spitting "men bad women good" rhetoric unprovoked to feel morally superior. How brave and revolutionary of you 💪🏻👍. Edit: Out of morbid curiosity I saw your post history, you seem very... Dedicated to this revolutionary crusade of yours against online patriarchy or something. Slay them all queen.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 03:31 AM
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You seem to have some unresolved resentment towards men. I hope you get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 02:44 AM
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And many married men fulfill every whim their wives demand, make lots of unrecognized effort to give them comfortable lives, and are willing to protect them from danger even at the cost of their own lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 02:28 AM
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Edit: So you want women to lead men on? What do you mean you are treating her well? Men interpret kindness as attraction, they can only understand blunt rejection anything else will just give them false hope. It's kind of a vicious cycle/self fulfilling prophecy sadly. I don't think women on principle have any problem showing affection towards male loved ones or men they at least get along, but they worry that the guys will interpret that as flirting so they don't. On the other hand, men are sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 11:50 PM
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You are not incorrect, and I don't think I was implying that some women don't have incredibly self centered and impossible standards. I was just pointing out that no one is nor shouldn't be unconditionally loved once they reach adulthood. As tempting as it is, men and women need to avoid falling in the rabbit hole of assuming the other gender is exclusively full of elitist, shallow and selfish assholes who only want an all take and no give relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 09:30 PM
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I think some men see women receiving more open affection in general than they do from their peers, plus they've grow up exposed to rom coms (or action movies that involve a damsel in distress) in which the man goes to almost superhuman lengths to protect, rescue, charm and/or make the woman happy. This can cause the impression than in real life women are generally more valued and loved "for being women" whereas men "have to work" for love. It's a erroneous impression but I can sort of get why th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:45 PM
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We should stop pretending that either men or women love each other unconditionally or whatever, it's not true. Not just romantically, humans have a transactional element in all of their relationships. That transactional element merely happens to be emotional in personal relationships (receiving affection, laughter, engaging chatting, support, you name it). The closest thing to unconditional love is (ideally) the one from a parent to a child, and even that has limits once the child reaches adulth…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 06:40 PM
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Besides all of your good points, I also want to point out something morbidly interesting I've seen several times in discussions about the subject: "Men are far more likely to be raped or sexually assaulted than falsely accused, so they should be more concerned about the former issue." The above is a relatively common counterargument that feminists use to invalidate men's fears of being falsely accused. Compared to the more hostile and downright accusatory ones like "if you did nothing you have n…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/12/23 02:05 AM
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But you don't get it. When they hit us, it's punching up so it's fine. When we do it it's punching down so it's evil. We need to man up and let them hit us to their heart's content in order to redeem ourselves! . . . There there I said it, stop pointing that gun at me Ms Feminist!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/12/23 01:38 AM
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also you don't seem to know what red flag means. red flag just means stop, go no further. it's not some big ethical or moral judgment The term is usually used with that connotation tbf.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 09:42 PM
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Question, would you consider a man who wouldn't die with his wife in that situation a coward or less of a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 01:32 PM
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My love, at no point in this convo did I suggest that men deserve to get raped. Oh I know. I just pointed out the possible next logical step for your reasoning. You started out with the insightful, wise and not womansplaining-at-all statement of "men do always want sex, it's a prejudice that is true" which not only paints men as sex crazed beasts, but it also implies that they can't get raped because rape, by definition, is sex without consent. Then when I called you out on that, you backpedaled…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 03:07 AM
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So first you say that the "men always want sex" prejudice is true, which implies that men can't get raped. Then you say that "oF coUrSe" it happens and "iTs abHoRrEnt" when it does (I'm suuuure you believe those words) but it's unlikely. Sounds a bit narcissist prayer-ish to me. "Men don't get raped. And even if they do, it's rare". I wonder what's next. "Even if it's not rare, they deserve it"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 02:54 AM
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Oooooh then I guess that a boy raped by his female babysitter or teacher, or a man raped in jail weren't actually raped because they actually wanted it all along! Thanks for enlightening me! As usual, a woman knows more about men than men themselves!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 02:48 AM
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Oh then I guess all those stories of boys being groomed and raped by female """""""hot"""""""" teachers are just fairy tales.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 02:43 AM
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I guess it's a mix of "men bad women good" gender essentialism and the good old "men always want sex, yes, including boys" prejudice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 02:42 AM
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I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand, it's undeniable that women and girls get subjected to far more creepy crap growing up than men and boys. But on the other, men and boys are conditioned into finding any female attention as something good, a consequence of which is way less complaining and reporting from males. And this "men always want sex" prejudices are things that can be imposed by women too, including mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 02:40 AM
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Okay, I completely disagree but let's leave it here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 12:30 AM
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While I can't deny that women suffer from male creeps much more, I think that the difference wouldn't be so vast if men weren't conditioned to basically enjoy any female attention no matter which kind. This also works for more extreme and criminal situations: women raped by men are more frequent than the other way around, but the difference wouldn't be so big if men reported as much as women do. In other words, yes, there are more male creeps and rapists than female ones. But I don't think it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 11:34 PM
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I'm only questioning that you so confidently state that older women creeping on young men "is super rare" since that's only one step away from saying "it never happens". It's invalidating towards men who actually had women creeps drooling over them or going even further. Do you really think that 99.9999% of middle aged women wouldn't even think of expressing how hot a muscular late teens male teenager looks like? All I'm saying is that we shouldn't treat female creeps as an anomaly while treatin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 11:21 PM
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This reeks of gender essentialism tbh. "Men do this evil thing but women don't. Women are good, men are bad."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 11:08 PM
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That's... Just kindness and empathy. While obviously endearing I don't see how that's "feminist principles".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 07:10 PM
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God no, it's not evil at all, and I say this as someone not interested at all in being a father. I hope you manage to have your own child and be the best parent you can be to them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/12/23 09:00 PM
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I relate so much to you right now stranger lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:39 PM
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I grew up in a moderately strict and religious environment (my catholic school) and yeah I'm pretty unconfident.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:22 PM
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Mother son emotional incest is a hell of a thing, and not nearly talked about as much as it should be. It's not as bad as actual incest (basically CSA) of course buuuut it's kind of a step in that direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 09:46 PM
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IIRC Kens in Barbieland weren't allowed to have jobs or at least high ranking jobs nor houses. The second half of the movie happened because the Kens rebelled, and when the Barbies recovered the power, decided to be more progressive. Would you say that women in past centuries weren't pressured to be only housewives and that they could have done whatever they wanted all along?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:02 PM
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IIRC they weren't even legally allowed to have jobs or houses. It's like saying women in past centuries weren't forced to be housewives, they just were in need of self reflection.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 04:59 PM
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Well Kens are basically second class citizens in Barbieland whose only purpose was to look pretty to the Barbies. I'd say they were pressured into that role.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:06 PM
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I’d want him to socialize and be successful with women. I’m probably not the person for that. That’s what fathers and other men are for. I’ll give my own POV if requested, but I doubt it would have any value. I don’t know the first thing about being a teenage boy or a man in general. I can recognize my own limitations. Very wise, you are spot on about this. Even if you have the best of intentions, your dating advice to your son could be subconsciously influenced by your experiences as a woman, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 12:25 AM
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What?! But feminists always say that men are 99% of all rapists! You mean that they could have... LIED?!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 03:15 PM
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Because feminists think of men as the oppressor class, and women as the oppressed class. Viewing reality and relationships between the genders under that lens will unsurprisingly limit their capacity for empathy towards men. If directly asked, feminists will deny hating men, or viewing them as enemies. "Our enemy is the patriarchy" they will say. "Feminism helps men too" they'll say. But the core of their views is already flawed. How can they, or anyone, expect to truly understand and empathize …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/23 12:00 AM
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Actually yeah, this is true. I want the liberty of roasting and screwing over asshole men and women with no distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:36 PM
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me and that you are not a real man What a shitty expression.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:41 AM
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I'm referring to the guy you are arguing with, not to you. Sorry if it came off as talking about you!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 12:24 AM
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Don't waste too much energy with this guy, he's more interested in provoking and gotcha'ing people than in exchanging ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 12:07 AM
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You implied so when you invalidated the possibility of men being emotionally neglected by women being anything else other than "men having GOOD BIG FEELINGS and BAD BIG FEELINGS". Read your own original comment, I won't do that for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 11:24 PM
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Dude, you want me to tell you that you are right and I'm wrong, and that I'm a stupid emotionally immature privileged man? Okay, you are right and I'm wrong and I'm a stupid emotionally immature privileged man. Now cut it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 11:21 PM
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I can't say for sure neither yes or no. Some men do, some men don't. We are not a monolith.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 11:19 PM
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Sure, whatever makes you happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 11:18 PM
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Maybe no one taught you this while you grew up, but treating people with condescension and rudeness isn't very effective to change their minds about something. Let's leave it here. Neither of us seem interested in truly reaching the other, and fighting online is pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 11:15 PM
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Again, your argument is men bad women good. According to you, men can't be emotionally neglected or mistreated by women, because they always have it coming. I'm sorry if the men in your life proved to be emotionally unstable and/or assholes, but most of us aren't like that. Men also have to deal with a stone face women's emotional shenanigans sometimes. But I'm sure you consider those cases justified or "the bare minimum".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 11:13 PM
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Did I touch a nerve with you or something? Both your reply here and in the post seem rather pissed off. I just wanted a civil discussion about men and women's respective flaws and plights, but you seem determined in turning it into a "MEN EVIL STUPID EVIL STUPID!"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 11:09 PM
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I have no doubt some married women don't feel fulfilled in their marriages. What I feel skeptical about is that most married women feel like that. And I'm sure that there are also men that don't feel neither emotionally nor sexually satisfied in their marriages either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 11:07 PM
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Your answer basically consisted on bashing men for being crybabies whose emotional expressions are stupid. There's not much to comprehend. But I can reply in kind if you wish. Many women simply can't stand nor respect men who share any sort of feeling with them that isn't just how much the guy loves and is devoted to the woman. When they demand that men "open up" they only mean about things that make the woman feel good about herself, it's not about the men themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 11:05 PM
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Most married women? You got a source for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 10:58 PM
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Men bad women good. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 10:48 PM
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There would be many less humans today. That's all I can say for certain. As for whether a lower libido would make humanity more efficient or advanced I'm not sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 11:10 PM
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Okay...?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 10:44 PM
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You were talking about how men aren't secretly benevolent, how men don't deserve the benefit of the doubt, about how men are greedy. You seemed to imply that those flaws are a male thing rather than a human one. If that wasn't the case, then I have no arguments against you. Edit: I guess that what triggered me was the possibility of this being a gender essentialism kind of statement from your part. I'm already kinda sick of the woman good men bad prejudices and stereotyping.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 10:32 PM
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Men aren't stupid and do not play when it comes to their money. And women are different?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 10:27 PM
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Yeah men are evil assholes and monsters and should be treated as such! 🙄🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 10:24 PM
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One of my favourite women content creators in YouTube. I love her acid humor and lack of fear of haters. Also, with her video about male loneliness epidemic and it's reactions, I felt both happy and disturbed. On one hand, many men came together to talk about their often overlooked problems, same as women about the men in their lives. On the other hand however, Shoe exposed just how unhinged and nauseous some people are in their attempt to deny men's problems. Specially on Twitter.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/23 04:34 PM
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