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| 3 | why is it only men that have to go through induction haircut in bootcamp 😕Because male soldiers are the only real soldiers on the battlefield 99% of the time. Female soldiers are a whimsical, collective delusion that we will hopefully wake up to should a real war ever begin. Which might just happen thanks to our committed escalation of the Ukraine conflict. | /r/MensRights | 01/03/23 06:30 PM |
| 1 | Woman just walks into mens changing room? What do I do?Perhaps you could identify the ideology you believe I follow? No, but I can infer that you do follow an ideology, based on your rejection of basic scientific facts. But there are many possible ideologies that could compel you to reject that part of reality, so, no, I'd need more information to label you, if I was so inclined (and I'm not). Narcissist personality disorder does cuse some people to believe their opinions are "facts". Violence, especially sexual violence, is not observed symmetrical… | /r/MensRights | 01/02/23 02:49 AM |
| 1 | Woman just walks into mens changing room? What do I do?Women are not getting routinely raped or beaten or killed just because a man walks into their bathroom. It happens, I'm sorry to say. My most recent memory is of a high school girl who got raped by a boy who was hiding in the girl's bathroom. There is a reason that women experience a lot more anxiety when it comes to sex and nudity. This shit has been going on for millions of years. | /r/MensRights | 31/01/23 11:12 PM |
| 1 | Woman just walks into mens changing room? What do I do?Right. So worst-case-scenario, men get talked about on TV or perhaps get in trouble for responding to a female presence (if that was the point of the example you mentioned, I'm not sure). That's bad. But men aren't getting raped or beaten or killed. Can we agree that those are worse? | /r/MensRights | 31/01/23 10:34 PM |
| -2 | Woman just walks into mens changing room? What do I do?In a purely technical sense, it is a "sexist" claim (i.e., discriminating on the basis of sex). Anything that takes sexual asymmetry seriously will wind up technically "sexist", because biological asymmetries have consequences. Whether those consequences result in misandry however, is another question entirely. I believe values are always in tension. If you value male changing room privacy very highly, then, whether you realize it or not, you will pay a very high price in the sacrifice of other … | /r/MensRights | 31/01/23 10:19 AM |
| -3 | Woman just walks into mens changing room? What do I do?Men and women are equal but not symmetric. I don't see this gym incident as a particularly gross violation of men's rights. Men have much less biological need for privacy from strange females (but not zero need). We must always prioritize our values. How does this value compare with, say, the right to share custody of one's kids, for example? That being said, modern political orthodoxy insists that men and women are equal and symmetric, and this manager's actions do violate the principle of gend… | /r/MensRights | 31/01/23 04:57 AM |
| 8 | Ukraine: All men are conscripted and the women set up anti male feminist apartment blocks.If you believe in an afterlife and/or if you believe things matter beyond your own life, then, no, their problems are not over, only their relationship to them has changed. | /r/MensRights | 10/01/23 06:33 PM |
| -2 | 'Men's voices matter!' Kanye West says fathers should have equal say in how kids are raisedNobody is a self made billionaire, not even Kanye. | /r/MensRights | 23/09/22 03:04 AM |
| -2 | 'Men's voices matter!' Kanye West says fathers should have equal say in how kids are raisedI'm saying not everybody can be as talented as Kanye. He's very lucky and "privileged" in that way. | /r/MensRights | 23/09/22 03:03 AM |
| -7 | 'Men's voices matter!' Kanye West says fathers should have equal say in how kids are raisedKanye's advantages seem to be mostly genetic. He has a rare combination of individually rare phenotypic traits. From the perspective of capitalism, that's obviously good enough to skyrocket his wealth generation. The hard part isn't predicting that success in capitalism will be disproportionately visited upon the genetic (and financial) outliers--it's identifying which people actually possess those extremely "adaptive" trait combinations. | /r/MensRights | 22/09/22 10:08 PM |
| 3 | 'Men's voices matter!' Kanye West says fathers should have equal say in how kids are raisedThat's a bit of a caricature of capitalism. Bill Gates and Elon Musk didn't really come from "money" in the way you're implying. They had advantages for sure (but so did Kanye, albeit of a different sort). But yes, it really is predictable. For every Bill Gates, I could point at three {7, 8, 9, 10}-figure millionaire celebrities. And if your argument against me hinges on petty details about digit counts on the wealth of extreme outliers, frankly, I'm not interested in that conversation. | /r/MensRights | 22/09/22 09:41 PM |
| 11 | 'Men's voices matter!' Kanye West says fathers should have equal say in how kids are raisedThat's entirely predictable when your society mainlines free market capitalism. Human beings are not Vulcans. Much of our brain matter is devoted to emotional and hormonal responses which, if unregulated by the pre-frontal cortex, are powerful drivers of behavior. If you pit evocative, flamboyant individuals like Kanye against the drudgery of stoic self-regulation and self-improvement, the market isn't going to anticipate the future like an enlightened oracle and favor teachers, parents and care… | /r/MensRights | 22/09/22 06:01 PM |
| 6 | Angry woman confronts blind man at the gym and accuses him of staring at her.I don't know what the 1 and 12 rule is, so I'm not sure if I should be mad or not. | /r/MensRights | 15/08/22 06:53 PM |
| 2 | Circumcised male here, why do people hate circumcision?I've told you multiple times to stop quoting Canadian medical ethics to me. I've lost all respect for Canada in this arena after it's handling of covid. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 09:01 PM |
| 1 | Circumcised male here, why do people hate circumcision?I'm advocating for parental rights to make medical decisions for their children. So show me, actual statistics on the wide spread benefit of male circumcision in terms of mortality, lifespan, reproductive success in circumcised individuals. Do you know how null hypotheses work? It's your job to disprove the null hypothesis, namely, that circumcision is uncorrelated with life outcomes. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 06:48 AM |
| 0 | Circumcised male here, why do people hate circumcision?I'm talking about infant circumcision, not adult "men". | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 06:35 AM |
| 0 | Circumcised male here, why do people hate circumcision?Enjoy being a scientifically illiterate moron. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 06:34 AM |
| 1 | Circumcised male here, why do people hate circumcision?And how many HIV cases are prevented by circumcision? Citing absolute, out-of-context numbers does not establish a statistical pattern. Show me differences in mortality, lifespan, reproductive success in circumcised vs not populations. I'll wait. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 06:33 AM |
| 1 | Circumcised male here, why do people hate circumcision?Unless you can actually provide EVIDENCE to back up your argument then you can not call it "Empirical"That's why we call it "Empirical EVIDENCE" It's empirical because it's falsifiable. I can be proven wrong. If you think I'm wrong, go prove it. Until then, I am fine with representing my argument as an arguable, empirically falsifiable hypothesis. I'm not sure how much more I can regurgitate basic philosophy of science back at you. Good luck figuring it out. If you need help, I suggest looking i… | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 06:21 AM |
| 2 | Circumcised male here, why do people hate circumcision?I've looked for evidence that male circumcision is statistically and objectively deleterious. I haven't found any, despite a serious search--and despite inviting many advocates to provide such data. Also, I have my own personal experience to extrapolate from. I was circumcised at birth and I do not feel like I'm lacking in any sensation. I have not looked into female circumcision and have no personal experience whatsoever, so I'm not prepared to issue a judgement. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 06:16 AM |
| 2 | Circumcised male here, why do people hate circumcision?Yes, it is a complicated question. That's my whole point. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 06:05 AM |
| 0 | Circumcised male here, why do people hate circumcision?I would need (a lot) more information to answer this hypothetical definitively. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 05:57 AM |
| -2 | Circumcised male here, why do people hate circumcision?Not if it can be shown to be harmful to their daughter's health, lifespan, reproductive chances, etc. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 05:51 AM |
| 1 | Circumcised male here, why do people hate circumcision?No. OP was making a PHILOSOPHICAL / LEGAL argument. I am making an EMPIRICAL argument. OP's argument cannot be moved by data. Mine can. I hope that the difference is clear now. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 05:50 AM |
| 0 | Circumcised male here, why do people hate circumcision?I believe the issue is complicated enough to not leverage the state one way or another. Parents should decide how to answer the question on behalf of their child. And since probably no one (in our lifetimes) will know the final analysis, parents should not be judged for their decision, whichever way they go. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 05:49 AM |
| -1 | Circumcised male here, why do people hate circumcision?I never meant to imply that circumcision should be compulsory; my position is that it should be left to the parents. And my personal choice would be to have it done to my son, although it's not something I feel super strongly about. Anyway, I appreciate your honesty. Unfortunately, many anti-circumcision advocates prefer to hide behind pseudo-intellectual rationalizations, rather than simply be honest about their motives. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 05:17 AM |
| 0 | Circumcised male here, why do people hate circumcision?Yes, I actually don't care that much about circumcision per se. I mostly care that people are honest and empirical. The point is that my argument could be settled empirically. I have a hunch that it's true. I accidentally shaved off a piece of my thumb once and 10 years later I do have sensation there. Maybe it's less? Hard to say. Harder still to say when we're talking about an infant's genitalia. But it's theoretically answerable if somebody cares enough. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 05:16 AM |
| -7 | Circumcised male here, why do people hate circumcision?Okay, now see if you can find an article that justifies parents have access to ear removing surgery. I'll wait. Based on your own source, it seems like circumcision is more like vaccination than butchery. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 05:03 AM |
| -3 | Circumcised male here, why do people hate circumcision?That's why I said arguably instead of definitively. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 05:01 AM |
| -4 | Circumcised male here, why do people hate circumcision?These stats are terrible That's your subjective assessment, and regardless of what you say, those studies are suggesting there is at least some objectively measurable, albeit small, health benefit to circumcision. By contrast, all of the downsides you mention are purely subjective. Leave it to the parents. This issue is obviously not clear enough to involve the state. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 04:57 AM |
| -15 | Circumcised male here, why do people hate circumcision?"The developing brain exhibits a higher degree of plasticity than the adult brain. Neuroplasticity is most active in childhood as a part of normal human development, and can also be seen as an especially important mechanism for children in terms of risk and resiliency." | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 04:47 AM |
| 0 | Circumcised male here, why do people hate circumcision?Where did I deny that vaccines provide benefits? My only point is that they are not without potential downsides--which is an undeniable fact. The campaign to eradicate polio, for instance, did inadvertently give polio to tens of thousands of children. Was it worth it? I lean toward yes. But let's not deny the costs that were paid. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 03:57 AM |
| -21 | Circumcised male here, why do people hate circumcision?No u. (Anyone can make a vague, baseless allegation. You don't have to respond if you don't have anything constructive to say.) | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 03:29 AM |
| 1 | Circumcised male here, why do people hate circumcision?So talking with a lisp threatens one's survival? Therefore a parent can force a child to have his or her frenulum severed? Is that your argument? I doubt even a single study exists to defend this position. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 03:17 AM |
| 0 | Circumcised male here, why do people hate circumcision?Lashing out? What's the most aggressive thing I've said? | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 03:15 AM |
| -43 | Circumcised male here, why do people hate circumcision?If you had something meaningful to say, you'd have enlightened the rest of us with your knowledge. You don't like the comparison, but you can't attack it with actual arguments or point to even a single example of "fucking research". | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 03:13 AM |
| -4 | Circumcised male here, why do people hate circumcision?Yeah, your user name tells me you're not here in good faith, but with an axe to grind. Pass. (also, given the way Canada handled the covid, I do not consider them an authority on medical ethics) | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 02:12 AM |
| 2 | Circumcised male here, why do people hate circumcision?I insist on putting it that way because I am deeply skeptical of government power. This type of over-reliance on the state can quickly turn into medical authoritarianism, as we saw in Australia or Canada during covid, for example. I do not believe that the state can be implicitly trusted to safeguard any rights and, if left in unchallenged, the state will tend toward totalitarianism. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 01:32 AM |
| 2 | Circumcised male here, why do people hate circumcision?I'm not saying that vaccines aren't permanent. I'm saying that they are not a change in the same way that removing a body part is a change. You know this to be true. Don't be pedantic. I'm not being pedantic. Vaccines carry the same risks as variolation, just significantly attenuated. And when variolation (or vaccination) goes wrong, the "victim" will likely have to endure lifelong pain and suffering (and oftentimes resentment against their parents for subjecting them to the procedure). Then, I … | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 01:20 AM |
| -6 | Circumcised male here, why do people hate circumcision?That's simply not true, depending on what exactly you mean by "critical". For example, frenectomies are sometimes performed on newborns and I doubt you would consider "tongue tied" a critical condition. So presumably you think it wrong for parents to consent to such surgeries on their newborns? | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 01:12 AM |
| 7 | Circumcised male here, why do people hate circumcision?I would like to point out that there is a difference between physical changes, such as tonsil removal or circumcision, from the sort of change that a vaccine imposes. False. The immune system is a physical system and vaccines induce a long-lived if not permanent (and even potentially fatal) physical change in that system. Look up the interaction of Dengue fever with its vaccine for more; the short version is that getting vaccinated for Dengue fever can make the rare variants of the virus more da… | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 01:06 AM |
| -50 | Circumcised male here, why do people hate circumcision?At least you're being honest and admitting that you think the benefits are marginal and the costs significant. At least now you can at least potentially be persuaded by data and evidence contrary to your current belief. If your position is determined by the nonsensical position that children must consent to every permanent decision that affects them, then you're basically arguing matters of faith. Now, ironically, your first paragraph contains a potential argument for infant circumcision. Here's… | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 12:51 AM |
| -11 | Circumcised male here, why do people hate circumcision?Vaccines are slightly different because if one does not get a vaccine for a terrible disease then that does put their life in mortal danger. Well that conveniently hinges everything on your definition of "mortal danger". What is the threshold for that? Measles has an Infection Fatality Rate of less than 0.1%. Is that "mortal danger"? | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 12:45 AM |
| -88 | Circumcised male here, why do people hate circumcision?More like preemptively removing their tonsils to prevent future infections. Or more like variolation. Or vaccination. I.e., permanent medical decisions, with potential risks and putative, preventative benefits. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 12:40 AM |
| -25 | Circumcised male here, why do people hate circumcision?No, don't assume my beliefs. I do not think that tonsils should be removed without consent. Okay, what about shots and injections. Should children have to consent to their vaccines? According to your professed beliefs, your answer must be "Yes" and it is wrong for parents and/or doctors to force vaccination on non-consenting children. But I'm assuming your answer is "no, children should be forced to vaccinate if their parent consents to it". So, now that we've clarified, was my assumption about … | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 12:38 AM |
| -120 | Circumcised male here, why do people hate circumcision?You weren't asked to born either. You weren't asked which culture you wanted to be socialized into. You weren't asked which country's laws you want to abide by. And, most importantly, there's all kinds of surgeries performed on children without first asking for their consent. So, no, your objection is not that "they weren't asked first". (I'm assuming that you believe parents should be allowed to consent for their children's tonsillectomies, for example.) Your real objection is simply that you d… | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 12:31 AM |
| 3 | #MeToo failed Johnny Depp and proves that the woke movement is nothing but digital chivalryNo, both MeToo and CRT are strongly supported by the establishment because they enable effective increases in government authority. MeToo erodes the principle of presumed innocence and CRT prescribes "solutions" which erode the principle of freedom of association and gives the government license to intrude on what would otherwise be private business. | /r/MensRights | 23/04/22 01:06 AM |
| -2 | Tradcon article from The Federalist says being a man means to “Lay down your life for others” and “serve and defend others”I think one of the west's highest priorities should be the restoration of young men's duty and respect. The status quo is simply unsustainable. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/01/22 03:50 AM |
| -1 | Tradcon article from The Federalist says being a man means to “Lay down your life for others” and “serve and defend others”Equality =/= homogeneity. The stronger sex should exercise that strength. A difference in expectation is justified by the underlying biology. The injustice is not in our sex differences per se, but when those differences are too strictly and/or unjustifiably enforced or leveraged exploitatively, with inadequate remuneration for those differential sacrifices. We can dream of a day when equality == homogeneity. But it is not today. And realistically, if that day will ever come to pass it will be b… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/01/22 02:31 AM |
| 14 | Hunger Strike & End Affirmative Action for WomenIt's one thing to disagree with (some of) Jordan Peterson's political positions--he does lean right, after all. But to declare him "problematic"? If you cannot get along with the Peterson-type conservatives of the world, then co-existence ain't ever happening and the continued disintegration of our civil society is virtually guaranteed. You can't kill your political opponents. You have to live with them. Peterson should be held up as a model to which conservatives aspire and leftists should enco… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/01/22 04:49 AM |
| 12 | Mention men, and you're instantly dismissedThe first response: "and what gender were the attackers?" My reaction: what fraction of men do these offenders represent? If a significant fraction of men really were murdering people, then it really would make sense to frame the issue in terms of men. But if it's a tiny fraction of men, then probably there is something else going on and some other demographic that would make more sense to focus on (socioeconomic status? marital status? IQ? personality? etc. etc.). It is a biological truism that… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/22 11:51 PM |
| 1 | Why women being more college educated than men is troubling for societyLet's say no. I'm imagining a 4th branch of the government whose sole purpose is to approve military campaigns. Would you be okay with the male-only draft if this branch was entirely populated and voted on by men? (Interesting to also consider the demographics of the men. Would you be more or less supportive if the males were a random sample of the entire population? What about only ages 18-35 (i.e., the men most likely to actually serve)? Etc.) | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/22 11:20 PM |
| 2 | Why women being more college educated than men is troubling for societyWould you be okay with a male-only draft if military decisions were restricted to male representatives? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/22 10:22 PM |
| 1 | I realize now why being conservative and being up for men's rights are mutually exclusive: 2 words: the STATUS QUOYour snarkiness doesn't affect the validity of your "arguments"--but actual evidence very well might. We'll never know, though, because hacking at strawmen is a terrible way of uncovering truths. It feels good tho, amirite? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/12/21 10:22 PM |
| -1 | I realize now why being conservative and being up for men's rights are mutually exclusive: 2 words: the STATUS QUOYeah, that's a good faith steel man of the conservative view... | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/12/21 08:38 PM |
| 1 | If women do porn voluntarily, how is it degrading them?Because it has nothing to do with whether it's "voluntary" or not. Wage slavery is degrading, too, and yet technically "voluntary". I guess it depends on what you mean by "voluntary". Are they doing it because they need the money? (Then it's degrading.) Or is it something they would do for free? (Not degrading, but problematic in other ways.) | /r/MensRights | 13/10/21 12:55 AM |
| 22 | Whats the difference between this sub and menslib?You're even allowed to defend circumcision... as long as you don't mind being downvoted to hell. | /r/MensRights | 28/09/21 09:19 PM |
| -6 | Sick Of MeToo And Time's UpLet me make this absolutely clear. I said some words about rape. Then he said some words about rape. I wanted to make sure we were talking about the same thing, so I clarified what I meant by rape. I am now and always was talking about violent coercion, not regretted sex or sex between a 16 year old and an 18 year old (which some people regard as a kind of rape). MOVING THE GOAL POSTS means changing my definition. But I never offered a definition--hence why I felt compelled to clarify my use of … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/09/21 11:42 AM |
| -16 | Sick Of MeToo And Time's UpI'm not moving the goalposts; I'm clarifying the goalposts. Violent rape is easy to objectively identify and on average has more of a negative impact on a person's life than, say, statutory rape. I'm interested in what issues have the most impact. I don't care about differences between men and women in, say, post-coital regret (which some people want to classify as a kind of rape). That'll wear off on its own after a cold shower. The word rape unfortunately needed to be clarified because of this… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/09/21 11:25 AM |
| -2 | Sick Of MeToo And Time's UpAs far as I can tell, it's a non sequitur. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/09/21 10:56 AM |
| 0 | Sick Of MeToo And Time's UpWell, I fail to see how you're making contact with anything I'm writing so, thanks for playing I guess. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/09/21 10:43 AM |
| -12 | Sick Of MeToo And Time's UpWomen are 40% of violent rapists? You have data to back that up? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/09/21 10:40 AM |
| -1 | Sick Of MeToo And Time's UpHow did you draw that conclusion from what I wrote? The racial analogy would be the existence of groups like the NAACP. Do you object to the NAACP focusing on issues that disproportionately affect black people? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/09/21 10:38 AM |
| -13 | Sick Of MeToo And Time's UpDo men and women rape equally often? Or is it possible that men and women are, on average, differently affected in all sorts of ways? If you accept that premise, then what is wrong about women focusing on issues that disproportionately impact them? My complaint is not that feminism focuses asymmetrically on women. That's fine. If women want to call attention to issues that disproportionately affect them, fine. My complaint is that men are discouraged from thinking about and acting on their own u… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/09/21 09:06 AM |
| 0 | Wow, what logic!What was unreliable about the footage dug up of her mother calling into CSPAN in the 90's to complain about her daughter being sexually assaulted by powerful politicians? Did she use her time machine to confirm that Biden would run for president in 2020 and plan out a 2 decades long hit job? That one piece of evidence is 10x stronger than anything that came out against Kavanaugh. | /r/MensRights | 14/09/21 01:16 AM |
| 1 | A woman barges into a busy men's room at Disney World and uses the toilet because she did not want to wait in line to use the ladies room.So I assume you prefer private bathrooms with no shared space at all? And I assume your home has segregated bathrooms because anything less would be "degenerate" eh? | /r/MensRights | 09/09/21 09:43 PM |
| 1 | A woman barges into a busy men's room at Disney World and uses the toilet because she did not want to wait in line to use the ladies room.Honestly, it sounds like she used one of the unoccupied stalls and so didn't inconvenience anyone. So I'm honestly asking: what's the problem then? Consider the following hypothetical: bathrooms are segregated into co-ed and women's only. The co-ed bathroom is generously furnished to serve all comers so that lines are never an issue and the urinals have physical dividers to preserve privacy. How is this a problem? Do men need, or even emotionally crave, a segregated bathroom space? I know I don'… | /r/MensRights | 08/09/21 11:10 PM |
| 1 | Feminism’s poster woman in big tech stole about a billion$ and now is using sexual assault accusations as an excuse.I'm trying to think... is there any other escape character? | /r/MensRights | 02/09/21 05:21 AM |
| -1 | How dare these boys and young men think that their lives might be worth preserving!A goal for our descendants to achieve, so long as we're able to navigate the present, painful biological iniquities with patience, grace and grit. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/21 09:17 AM |
| -2 | How dare these boys and young men think that their lives might be worth preserving!Of course women can fight. But this is war we're talking about. Men and women are not identical. One of the sexes is clearly at an advantage when it comes to war. Can we be adults and admit that? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/21 09:13 AM |
| -5 | How dare these boys and young men think that their lives might be worth preserving!I never bragged about it and I certainly wouldn't be happy about it. I'm not cheering for war, but I'm also not pretending it doesn't exist. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/21 09:02 AM |
| -11 | How dare these boys and young men think that their lives might be worth preserving!If war comes to my country, I shall. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/21 08:28 AM |
| -1 | How dare these boys and young men think that their lives might be worth preserving!If that were allowed to happen, the women would be massacred on the field of battle and the unarmed men at home would be routed shortly thereafter. War, like pregnancy, remains a harsh, biological obstacle to perfect gender equality. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/21 08:23 AM |
| 2 | How dare these boys and young men think that their lives might be worth preserving!Well, you've exhausted my ability to play devil's advocate. I agree. And I'd go one further and suggest that women shouldn't be conscripted, as that would almost certainly weaken the military at a time when it most needs strength. So as long as the specter of war remains, certain biological facts stand in the way of perfect gender equality. I'm not happy about it, but that's the world we live in. I also think that the gaping hole in our understanding of traditional societies is due partially to … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/21 08:09 AM |
| 1 | How dare these boys and young men think that their lives might be worth preserving!Why would the soldiers believe in their government? It was in the top 3 most corrupt governments in the world. Isn't it obvious that everyone involved in the Afghan state was motivated by money? And wouldn't you expect such nihilists to flee in the face of an army of True Believers? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/21 07:59 AM |
| -2 | How dare these boys and young men think that their lives might be worth preserving!Yes, but we haven't had a draft in the West for 50 years. Men and women are equally allowed to join the military and men choose to join disproportionately. Thus the argument can be made that men and women should have equal voice in how the military should be deployed. If men disapprove of the decisions contributed to by women, they can opt out of the military and let the women serve in their stead. On paper, anyway. War is a mind-killer. People aren't willing to think and speak honestly about it… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/21 07:48 AM |
| -3 | How dare these boys and young men think that their lives might be worth preserving!If things keep going the way they have been, I may very well have to. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/21 07:34 AM |
| 0 | How dare these boys and young men think that their lives might be worth preserving!Are you suggesting the only reason why the Taliban is winning is that the people in Afghanistan aren't willing to die for their freedom? I'm suggesting that it is a significant contributor. Of course war is complex and there are other contributing factors as well--as are others in this thread, pointing to their sectarian tribalism and weak sense of Nationalism. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/21 07:33 AM |
| -2 | How dare these boys and young men think that their lives might be worth preserving!I agree. I don't think women should have nearly as much of a say when it comes to war. Although, ostensibly, western armies are coed, so the point could be argued. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/21 07:29 AM |
| -42 | How dare these boys and young men think that their lives might be worth preserving!As I've said elsewhere, I would fight knowing that this day would come. Who was there to bail out George Washington when the going got tough? Life sucks, but running away doesn't make things better in the long run. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/21 07:27 AM |
| -2 | How dare these boys and young men think that their lives might be worth preserving!Are you suggesting that the Afghan military actually believed in itself and in the sovereignty of its government? All the evidence I've seen indicates that it was entirely propped up by American dollars. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/21 07:21 AM |
| -10 | How dare these boys and young men think that their lives might be worth preserving!Men and women are not the same. Men are better at war, so it falls on men to fight for freedom. Women have their own unique challenges, especially in traditional societies. You can argue which set of adversities is more encumbering, but no one said life is fair. And I am all for equalizing the sexes, but I'm also a realist. That project is far from complete and losing a war to the Taliban will not hasten it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/21 07:18 AM |
| -52 | How dare these boys and young men think that their lives might be worth preserving!If all that you've written is true, then these refugees were providing cover for unrepentant child rapists. Why shouldn't I call them cowards? They've apparently fled from every moral challenge they've faced. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/21 07:10 AM |
| -10 | How dare these boys and young men think that their lives might be worth preserving!If you really think the men fleeing have any shot at taking down the Taliban you are delusional. If they would stay they would just be killed. Then, spiritually, they fled long ago. If they seriously cared about the future of their country, they should have prepared for this moment like their life depended upon it. This really isn't the place to argue in favour of men dying needlessly just to fulfill their gender role. That's such a strawman. I'm arguing in favor of men dying for the future of t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/21 07:03 AM |
| -7 | How dare these boys and young men think that their lives might be worth preserving!If they are unwilling to die for their own freedom, they would never be able to keep it. If they were willing to die for their freedom, they wouldn't need foreigners to fight their battles. This is a tragedy with no exogenous solution. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/21 07:03 AM |
| -9 | How dare these boys and young men think that their lives might be worth preserving!If my country were falling under the rule of an authoritarian regime, I would would join the resistance and fight it with my life. I was fortunate that my forefathers paid that price on my behalf but if we've learned anything in these last 20-50 years it's that no one can do this for the Afghan people. If they want freedom and sovereignty with must purchase it their own blood. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/21 06:53 AM |
| -77 | How dare these boys and young men think that their lives might be worth preserving!And who is going to fight for Afghan freedom? The women and children? Can we at least be realistic about this? And can we admit that there are some things worth dying for? If anyone is going to win freedom for the Afghan people it is Afghan men who care more about their future descendants than they do about their own lives. Our species has not evolved past this particular sexual dimorphism, and I suggest we own it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/21 04:36 AM |
| 34 | #IfAllMenDisappearedForADay is trending on Twitter and it's the cap to the misandry cocktail this week has been.Things are going to get real interesting for awhile once we invent an artificial womb. | /r/MensRights | 09/08/21 07:32 AM |
| 1 | Just some casual blatant racism/sexism, courtesy of the fine folks at AmItheAssholeYour first mistake was spending a non-zero amount of time on that subreddit, which is a cancer in and of itself. | /r/MensRights | 02/08/21 06:51 AM |
| 0 | Circumcision Permanently Alters the Brain – The surgery subjected the infant to significant traumaChesterton's fence you claim, because it's been done for a long time. Let me remind you that FGM has been done for thousands of years, does that mean they are obviously onto something because of how long it's been going on for? Chesterton's fence is, of course, not a blanket defense for all traditional practices. Sometimes an outdated ritual really should be dismantled. In the case of FGM, the best evolutionary analysis suggests that the practice arose out of a patriarchial system of control ove… | /r/MensRights | 16/07/21 06:38 AM |
| 0 | Circumcision Permanently Alters the Brain – The surgery subjected the infant to significant traumaa cosmetic surgery like this one. You just listed off for me a half dozen health benefits. Why are you now calling it a cosmetic surgery, again? Have you heard of "Chesterton's fence"? The fact that the practice of circumcision has persisted for thousands of years is (admittedly weak) evidence in and of itself that circumcision is "doing something". It's probably not just a random whim. If you don't like circumcision, then it's your job to demonstrate what those benefits are and how they are out… | /r/MensRights | 15/07/21 08:44 PM |
| 0 | Circumcision Permanently Alters the Brain – The surgery subjected the infant to significant traumaNo, I'm for an appendix removal on an infant if the parents consent because they believe it to be in the best interests of their child, like in the event that it had burst or was cancerous. My point is consent is a red herring. No go back and read the head comment of this thread and realize his ENTIRE ARGUMENT hinged purely on the child's consent. That is what I am objecting to. | /r/MensRights | 15/07/21 09:57 AM |
| -1 | Circumcision Permanently Alters the Brain – The surgery subjected the infant to significant traumathere are literally 0 health benefits That's the rub though, you don't actually know that for sure and you certainly haven't demonstrated it in this thread. At the very least, it's an assumption you've made here, and I'd wager money it's something you've always assumed but never actually confirmed. Regardless--the question is not about consent. Medical professionals and parents do not need consent to operate on children. The question is actually about health benefits, and I think a lot of people… | /r/MensRights | 15/07/21 09:07 AM |
| -6 | Circumcision Permanently Alters the Brain – The surgery subjected the infant to significant traumaMale genital mutilation has no benefits what so ever. That is a different argument from the one I responded to. So you admit that consent is not the issue, it's the existence of health benefits? | /r/MensRights | 14/07/21 11:15 PM |
| -4 | Circumcision Permanently Alters the Brain – The surgery subjected the infant to significant traumaAll medical procedures should require the consent of the person they are operating on. So you're opposed to preventative tonsillectomies in minors? | /r/MensRights | 14/07/21 10:05 PM |
| -10 | Circumcision Permanently Alters the Brain – The surgery subjected the infant to significant traumaAre you similarly opposed to preventative tonsillectomies? | /r/MensRights | 14/07/21 10:02 PM |
| 12 | Do you feel like men/boys are forced to protect women/girls?Yes. And I would be fine with it since our species is dimorphic and men are the stronger sex--except that instead of recognizing the trade-offs between the average sex differences as being potentially healthy and useful, the culture mostly only tries to attenuate the differences that harm women while ignoring differences that benefit women (e.g., custody hearings) or that harm men (occupational hazards). If we're going to pursue radical equality, it has to be pursued indiscriminately, NOT by let… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/06/21 04:39 AM |
| 10 | Based - also there are MORE women in STEM than men, feminist gymnastics say otherwise by taking out Biology, Genetics,Medicine, Dentistry, etc from STEM definition and adding computer "science" in... basically certaing a selective buffet of subjects to get the headline stat you want for your agendaApplying science is very different from doing science. | /r/MensRights | 04/01/21 09:39 PM |
| 1 | Amazon has a very strict policy on "offensive materials" and bans any literature that comments hatred based on gender. Yet they continue to sell the SCUM manifesto, a radical anti-male book that proclaims the necessity of killing all men.Who is he - or anyone - to say that our lives matter more than other lives? Woah, hold your horses there, Harrison Bergeron. Are you trying to tell me you personally value every life equally, regardless of species, proximity or any other criterion? Are you trying to tell me you've ascended into the astral plane and become a god amongst mortals? Or... maybe... are you trying to desperately signal your allegiance to an ideology for social brownie points? Hmm? So now is the time to tell us that you… | /r/MensRights | 11/12/20 04:19 AM |
| -8 | Amazon has a very strict policy on "offensive materials" and bans any literature that comments hatred based on gender. Yet they continue to sell the SCUM manifesto, a radical anti-male book that proclaims the necessity of killing all men.Are you sure? It sounds like she's saying that we've undergone an additional Major Transition, compared to dogs, thereby putting us in some metaphorical sense "above" dogs. Surely you don't disagree with the late evolutionary theorist John Maynard Smith? | /r/MensRights | 10/12/20 11:15 AM |
| 1 | So, I'm confused about the notion of " men can't be raped "The secret here is that consent laws are not actually about consent. They're about controlling the sexual behavior of minors, full stop. And, yes, minors need to be controlled. If the adult population needs spurious rationalizations about "consent" to justify such intervention, so be it. But make no bones about it, we would be much worse off without consent laws. | /r/MensRights | 07/12/20 12:19 AM |
| 3 | Being a male fucking sucksHow do you reconcile both? Easy, as long as you recognize that the bible was written with divine inspiration, not a magic wand. Yes, a lot of (confused) people think the bible is literally the perfect, unerring word of God, but the funny thing is that those same people also tend to believe in free will (and use that as an explanation for the problem of evil). But if we humans have free will (and we do), then what is to stop the sociopaths among us from exploiting and corrupting holy books? And w… | /r/MensRights | 19/09/20 10:03 PM |
| 1 | I dont know what flair to put but I hope this dude is alrightOf course, but there is no shortcut here. Our only option, as men, is to live an honorable and successful life so that our sons can inherit a world slightly less afraid of them. I wish we could rage against the injustice of it, but instead we must take the high road and plant seeds the shade of which we will never see. | /r/MensRights | 17/09/20 07:21 PM |
| 1 | I dont know what flair to put but I hope this dude is alrightNobody says that and actually means it. In the modern world filled with handguns and rifles, everyone since Annie Oakley knows that a woman is in principle as deadly as any man. But our emotions did not evolve in the modern world. Our emotions evolved in a context where human sexual dimorphism did result in significant asymmetry in the direction of sexual violence, i.e., predominantly from male perps directed toward female victims. Our ancestry is filled with rape and assault mostly conducted by… | /r/MensRights | 17/09/20 10:59 AM |
| 1 | Male Lives MatterThe broken family is a kind of poverty--a spiritual / cultural poverty. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/20 03:09 AM |
| 1 | Got banned from Gender Critical subreddit because I commented “Not trusting men around kids for simply being men is sexist especially since women are more likely to sexually abuse and neglect kids”Well, you're right. There is no perfect solution. As usual, in politics, we're trying to find the least bad solution. An embryo is almost certainly not conscious--it is physically incapable of caring about its own destruction. But there are downsides to aborting even a 1st term embryo: the experience can be traumatizing for the woman, or she should could have a bad reaction to the misoprostol, etc. But those downsides have to be weighed against the downsides of black market abortions (which are … | /r/MensRights | 10/04/20 12:32 AM |
| 5 | Got banned from Gender Critical subreddit because I commented “Not trusting men around kids for simply being men is sexist especially since women are more likely to sexually abuse and neglect kids”Depends on how anti-abortion you are. If you want to make 1st-term abortions illegal, you're just scientifically illiterate. 2nd-term abortions are debatably borderline--we just don't know enough about brains and consciousness to know for sure. But 2nd-term abortions are probably (better than 50% confidence) no different than swatting a mosquito, at least as far as the fetus is concerned. In either case, your "solution" fails for the same reason the "abstinence only solution" fails--people are s… | /r/MensRights | 09/04/20 10:01 PM |
| 8 | Study confirms societal bias against men- people are hardwire to ignore male sufferingMost male mammals violently coerce other conspecific males including the occasional battle to the death. By contrast, their behavior towards conspecific females is more like property ownership. This behavioral dimorphism is part of our heritage and some details might be slightly altered at the margins among Homo sapiens--but the idea that men are biologically hardwired to think about and treat other men identically to women ought to be absurd on its face. Nature isn't fair and it doesn't care ab… | /r/MensRights | 04/01/20 12:43 AM |
| -7 | Doctor shares her thoughts on infant circumcisionNope, and my reasons are several and personal but I assure you they are not religious. And please find me an example of a real life FGM-person claiming she prefers her clitoris removed because it's easier to clean. I've not seen that even once. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/19 02:04 AM |
| -4 | Doctor shares her thoughts on infant circumcisionMe too. And, without going into personal details, I would be in worse shape physically if I hadn't been circumcised. So I fail to see the supposed symmetry between FGM and circumcision. Is there a single victim of FGM that actively prefers their mutilation for non-religious / non-superstitious reasons? | /r/MensRights | 22/12/19 01:06 AM |
| 1 | Watch: A blind man enters a women's only subway car in MexicoYou seem nice. | /r/MensRights | 17/12/19 01:36 AM |
| 5 | Watch: A blind man enters a women's only subway car in MexicoHuh. I've never seen someone get territorial over their reply tree. Crazy. | /r/MensRights | 17/12/19 01:12 AM |
| 21 | Watch: A blind man enters a women's only subway car in MexicoFrom what I've read, there actually has been a significant increase in reported sexual assaults in recent years. Not sure why, tbh. | /r/MensRights | 17/12/19 01:05 AM |
| 1 | Wonder how religious zealots and feminists can still defend male mutilation after seeing thisI can only speak to my own experience. I would be significantly worse off if my parents hasn't circumcized me as an infant. | /r/MensRights | 03/11/19 09:09 PM |
| 1 | Wonder how religious zealots and feminists can still defend male mutilation after seeing thisYep, and once we invent time travel this issue will be a slam dunk but until then it will remain an unavoidable controversy. | /r/MensRights | 03/11/19 05:28 PM |
| -3 | Wonder how religious zealots and feminists can still defend male mutilation after seeing thisIf a man wants to get circumcized then the best time to do it might be as an infant since they won't remember the trauma and high neural plasticity reduces the chance of serious damage. This isn't the slam dunk you're presenting it as, given how many circumcized men are satisfied with their situation. I prefer not to go into detail but I can say in my own case I would be much worse off today if I hadn't been circumcized as an infant. I don't think I would resent my parents if they hadn't circumc… | /r/MensRights | 02/11/19 07:13 PM |
| -2 | Wonder how religious zealots and feminists can still defend male mutilation after seeing thisBirth is done to infants. Genetic screening is done to infants. Childhood experience is done to infants. All (and more) without consent. But this is accepted because we trust that parents have their children's interests at heart, unless there is concrete evidence to the contrary. What about the men who grow up wishing their parents had circumcized them as infants? That refusal of treatment was made without their consent, too. There is in fact no logically foolproof solution to this dilemma and a… | /r/MensRights | 02/11/19 06:05 PM |
| 2 | Swap the gender roles around and see what happens.The complexity that seems to be overlooked here is that it's possible for that agency to hurt other people, including those outside the romantic relationship ("negative externalities", in economic parlance). Does that mean women should be denied their agency? Of course not. But we shouldn't pretend that their choices have no higher ramifications, either. | /r/MensRights | 30/10/19 04:57 PM |
| 1 | Swap the gender roles around and see what happens.That's pure bigotry and I say that as someone with a nuanced view of homosexuality that recognizes it has downsides. | /r/MensRights | 30/10/19 04:32 PM |
| 1 | Swap the gender roles around and see what happens.Yes, that's the nihilism of the popular culture. And if you really are satisfied with a life of pure dopamine binging then no one can really stop you. But you should appreciate that many people will judge you a zombie, a parasite and a hindrance to those with any kind of transcendent goals. Your comfort and security was purchased by those of our ancestors who chose to delay their gratification and face hardship in defense of ideals greater than mere short term happiness. But it's absolutely your… | /r/MensRights | 30/10/19 04:30 PM |
| 3 | Swap the gender roles around and see what happens.I'm on your side in terms of taking relationships seriously but the idea that gay marriage is inherently trivial just tells me you don't actually know any married gays. I know some that have been committed to each other for decades and raised children together with more success than some heterosexuals I know. So I just want to say on record that traditional views on romantic relationships does not necessarily imply homophobia. I care about preserving traditions that help people and make life bet… | /r/MensRights | 30/10/19 04:23 PM |
| -4 | Swap the gender roles around and see what happens.It isn't the sex that's the problem. It's the mindset that makes you think it's a good way to spend your limited time on this planet. | /r/MensRights | 30/10/19 04:15 PM |
| -13 | Logic!I feel like we're on the verge of quibbling over the definition of "violence". Can I dodge this semantics debate by narrowing the claim to physical violence? And, again, this fact should not be considered grounds for bigotry. The justice system should treat cases of homicide and lesser physical violence blindly. But I recognize that will be an aspirational asymptote for as long as our brains are running on unconscious firmware. EDIT: So people on this subreddit only upvote the facts of our evolu… | /r/MensRights | 25/10/19 09:37 PM |
| -29 | Logic!The definitive and classic treatment of this question is given in Wilson and Daly's book Homicide. This well documented example of sexual dimorphism should not be a controversial fact, nor should it be an unqualified indictment of masculinity or a vehicle for anti-male bigotry. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/19 08:42 PM |
| 80 | When feminists say guys can’t be good fathersThat grab-back-flip to dodge the blue, oncoming car... can't be real, right? | /r/MensRights | 13/10/19 03:50 PM |
| 21 | Man who selflessly improves the internet is reduced to his appearance.You're not wrong but you're not right either. | /r/MensRights | 12/08/19 01:03 PM |
| 5 | A great example of feminist misandryThat's mostly true, but the validation offered by society is based on criteria which transcend the values of sexual reproduction. Society sees value in people not (solely) on the basis of their fertility or genetic fitness but on the basis of their character. Incels are looking for a very narrow kind of validation that indeed comes down to physical appearance and mating criteria. And, yes, it's a problem when anyone ties their self worth exclusively to their sexual attractiveness. | /r/MensRights | 04/05/19 06:51 PM |
| 1 | My husband pays so much child support for one child I have to work overtime to pay our bills so his ex can be a stay at home mom to a school age kid.My language was perfectly clear. If anyone is being obtuse it's you. The fact is that overriding your emotions requires work and when your emotions align with your rational self-interest, then it becomes easier to "do the right thing". If you want to imagine a world where everyone always has the energy and discipline to behave 100% rationally at all times, feel free. But in reality land, the influence of emotions is significant even if not deterministically so. | /r/MensRights | 18/01/17 05:48 PM |
| 2 | My husband pays so much child support for one child I have to work overtime to pay our bills so his ex can be a stay at home mom to a school age kid.So you think most people are able to conjure up desired emotions at will? And most people can squelch undesired emotions? So, you have complete control of your sexual orientation through the arbitrary control of your arousal? You can respond to the most disgusting sights, smells and thoughts with pure rational composure--because you don't even feel the disgust? You're capable of committing the most shameful acts without even feeling a shred of guilt? Are you sure you're not a sociopath. I think … | /r/MensRights | 10/01/17 02:57 PM |
| 2 | My husband pays so much child support for one child I have to work overtime to pay our bills so his ex can be a stay at home mom to a school age kid.You're saying that you can control what emotions you feel via reasoning? | /r/MensRights | 10/01/17 02:21 PM |
| 2 | My husband pays so much child support for one child I have to work overtime to pay our bills so his ex can be a stay at home mom to a school age kid.Do you think there are emotional differences between males and females of other species? If so, then what makes humans different? If not, then how do you explain the differences in male/female behavior? Your statement seems wildly, fantastically inconsistent with the natural world. | /r/MensRights | 06/01/17 02:44 PM |
| 1 | My husband pays so much child support for one child I have to work overtime to pay our bills so his ex can be a stay at home mom to a school age kid.Do you understand that I am making a statement about an emotional difference between men and women, not an intellectual difference? Rationality is not on the table here, which is why the emotional machinery of non-human mammals is a relevant comparison. The behavioral dimorphism doesn't just exist in civilization. Even primitive tribes exhibit the same pattern without a government or courts. | /r/MensRights | 04/01/17 05:03 PM |
| 0 | My husband pays so much child support for one child I have to work overtime to pay our bills so his ex can be a stay at home mom to a school age kid.The court systems across the entire planet are rigged? And how do you explain the exact pattern appearing in non-human mammals? | /r/MensRights | 04/01/17 02:43 PM |
| 3 | My husband pays so much child support for one child I have to work overtime to pay our bills so his ex can be a stay at home mom to a school age kid.My point is that it is emotionally easier for women. I'm not saying women have super powers, they are just more inclined to invest in children. I think that statistic makes my point. | /r/MensRights | 04/01/17 02:25 PM |
| 1 | My husband pays so much child support for one child I have to work overtime to pay our bills so his ex can be a stay at home mom to a school age kid.According to the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD, 2011), 15% of children live in single parent households worldwide, and women head approximately 85% of these households. That should convince you of my relatively humble claim. | /r/MensRights | 04/01/17 10:16 AM |
| 0 | My husband pays so much child support for one child I have to work overtime to pay our bills so his ex can be a stay at home mom to a school age kid.Men can be every bit as empathetic and compassionate as women. They are just as capable and just as emotionally involved. That's true. And women are perfectly capable of being cold and uncaring. But on average, there is a measurable difference between the sexes. | /r/MensRights | 04/01/17 08:31 AM |
| 27 | My husband pays so much child support for one child I have to work overtime to pay our bills so his ex can be a stay at home mom to a school age kid.Then came feminism. They created the tender years doctrine that women are the natural care givers, and that children need to be with their mother. Are you seriously suggesting that a Western ideology created the notion that women are better care-givers than men? Have you looked at a single foreign culture? Have you looked at the behavior of any other mammalian species? This wasn't caused by feminism or "the patriarchy". It was caused by mother nature herself. Women are far more willing on averag… | /r/MensRights | 04/01/17 01:59 AM |
| -15 | Johnny Depp Is Being Blackmailed by Amber Heard – Here’s How I Know (Guest Column) - Doug StanhopeEh, I know Doug's style. If he isn't at least right then he's definitely not funny. | /r/MensRights | 30/05/16 04:23 PM |
| -14 | Johnny Depp Is Being Blackmailed by Amber Heard – Here’s How I Know (Guest Column) - Doug StanhopeWell that's just stupid. A lot has changed in 1,000 years, in particular the invention/discovery of the scientific method. We may be wrong about things in the sense that Newtonian mechanics is wrong (i.e., it is subsumed by a larger theory that overwrites it within certain extreme or niche domains, but which reduces to it in normal domains). The superstitious, voo-doo "theories" of 1,000 years ago, however, are so wrong they're not worth salvaging. It seems improper to use the same word ("wrong"… | /r/MensRights | 30/05/16 03:40 PM |
| 2 | As Hillary Clinton Sweeps States, One Group Resists: White MenDemocracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others (including republicanism). Mob rule sucks, but elite rule is so much worse and so much harder to rectify. | /r/MensRights | 18/03/16 09:41 PM |
| 1 | Gender gap widens as women graduates outpace the men (63%:37%)You have an even smaller mind than I thought. | /r/MensRights | 18/08/15 08:17 AM |
| 1 | Gender gap widens as women graduates outpace the men (63%:37%)Language is inherently arbitrary and imprecise. Unlike in mathematics, "correct" is mere convention, so who cares about it per se? From my perspective, such fixation on rectitude seems to be nothing more than wasted mental energy that succeeds only in giving pedants a false sense of superiority. Have you even considered the possibility that the jargon phrase in question is a blight on the language? Or has your subservience to convention blinded you to the value in judgment and thereby robbed you… | /r/MensRights | 18/08/15 07:41 AM |
| 0 | Gender gap widens as women graduates outpace the men (63%:37%)He used the word 'beg' in the conventional sense meaning 'ask'. If anyone is introducing confusion, its people who insist on overloading vernacular phrases with meanings pulled from esoteric corners of academia. | /r/MensRights | 18/08/15 02:27 AM |
| -1 | Gender gap widens as women graduates outpace the men (63%:37%)Oh, were you confused by that? Did you really think he was making a reference to a logical fallacy? Or was it pretty obvious what he meant even if he used words that happen to overlap with term referring to a rather obscure logical fallacy? | /r/MensRights | 17/08/15 11:48 PM |
| -8 | Gender gap widens as women graduates outpace the men (63%:37%)Why so pedantic? | /r/MensRights | 17/08/15 08:49 PM |
| 34 | BuyALadyADrink.com - Everyone needs clean water in developing nations...so help us provide it only for women.That's female behavior... Stereotype much? Females do not have a monopoly on this type of behavior... | /r/MensRights | 21/03/15 11:26 AM |
| 5 | This shit. (Xpost /r/rage)Humans, in spite of our large, unusual brains, are still nonetheless animals and we still are subject to the natural laws. When it comes to sex, the stakes are higher for women than men. In extreme situations, pregnancy complications can lead to a woman's death. That is going to leave an indelible mark on the species genome and you ought to expect our evolved nature to reflect it. There will be a differential emotional response to sexual exploitation for as long as there are asymmetrical risks i… | /r/MensRights | 30/10/14 04:07 PM |
| 26 | This shit. (Xpost /r/rage)Biologically, this rings true. It's obviously an oversimplification but this is a basic assumption pf evolutionary biology which successfully explains sexual behavior of all sorts of animals. I think the assumption that male/female sexuality is perfectly symmetrical is just empirically untenable. | /r/MensRights | 30/10/14 02:09 PM |
| 1 | Norway, which is considered one of the most gender-equal countries in the world, is finally beginning to realize that the "glass seiling" might just be a myth and that women choose differently than meIt's not real science until you start building theoretical frameworks that have substantial, robust predictive power. Biology, for instance, was a mere proto-science concerned that concerned itself with the cataloging of facts and naive categorizing until the advent of Darwin whose theory of natural selection advanced biology to a fully fledged science. | /r/MensRights | 05/01/14 07:59 AM |
| -1 | Thought someone might like this here.Truth isn't determined by vote. Science isn't a democracy. I welcome your skepticism, but if you're not even willing to read the long-accepted literature then your skepticism means nothing. | /r/MensRights | 06/08/12 10:52 PM |
| -1 | Thought someone might like this here.That was the weakest criticism of Dawkins I've ever read. The thing about Dawkins is that he's merely "digesting" the works of the real scientists--G.C. Williams, John Maynard Smith and Bill Hamilton. In this case, it sounds like the author of your pop-sci article is unfamiliar with the works of John Maynard Smith. Your assigned reading list just increased by one: "The Major Transitions of Evolution" by JMS. | /r/MensRights | 06/08/12 09:15 PM |
| -3 | Thought someone might like this here.Have you read Dawkins book? Get back to me afterward and we'll revisit this discussion. | /r/MensRights | 06/08/12 10:17 AM |
| -1 | Thought someone might like this here.I think fMRI brain scans would be more informative. as you probably know it. No, actually. I'll definitely look at any sources you have for that, though. | /r/MensRights | 06/08/12 10:16 AM |
| -8 | Thought someone might like this here.You're kind of missing the point. | /r/MensRights | 06/08/12 07:14 AM |
| -8 | Thought someone might like this here.Those numbers are incredibly small. More boys will die from pyschological abuse (a form of "brain circumcision") than from genital circumcision. Life itself carries innumerable risks. Flying your infant on an airplane will kill your infant 1/2,000,000 times. Should we never put infants on planes? BTW, proper hygiene does become an increasingly prickly matter as a man advances in age (due to the onset of dementia, among other things). For the record, though, I don't know whether the pros out-weig… | /r/MensRights | 06/08/12 07:03 AM |
| -9 | Thought someone might like this here.People who take this view of their personal morphology need to read Dawkins' book "The Extended Phenotype". Your parents shape your body in countless ways. There's no reason to single out (infant) male circumcision since it's not likely to interfere with the individual's capacity for sexual pleasure (as opposed to FGM). Besides that, circumcision should be a LOW priority for anyone interested in equality. There are way bigger fish to fry. | /r/MensRights | 06/08/12 06:28 AM |
| 1 | Is circumcision America's number one men's rights issue?I watched it. It was very educational and it's about what I would have expected. Let me tell you that I would prefer if we did not engage in this practice. I am certainly not pro-circumcision. That being said, this is not the worst thing in the world and it's certainly not the number one men's rights issue. EDIT: By the way, just because something is uncomfortable to watch doesn't mean it's necessarily wrong. Childbirth is equally unsettling, for instance. Should we stop having babies altogether… | /r/MensRights | 14/05/11 10:13 AM |
| -5 | Is circumcision America's number one men's rights issue?Dawkins' exposition on biological theories is superlative, but his analysis of social issues is systematically flawed. Every essay I've read of his that wasn't about biology was totally off base. I'm not suggesting people adopt Dawkins' views. I'm suggesting they educate themselves about the fundamentals of biology and Dawkins is a good vehicle for that process. | /r/MensRights | 13/05/11 08:34 AM |
| -2 | Is circumcision America's number one men's rights issue?The view that circumcision is America's number one men's rights issue. | /r/MensRights | 13/05/11 08:21 AM |
| -9 | Is circumcision America's number one men's rights issue?I have to assume that most people who take this view are biologically illiterate. My recommendation to those people are to read Richard Dawkins' book "The Extended Phenotype" and then re-think their position. | /r/MensRights | 13/05/11 08:14 AM |
| 1 | Wil Wheaton on TSA: I don't feel safe. I feel violated, humiliated, and angry.I'm not so sure about that. Our DNA is constantly being cleaved by stray particles and we've inherited our genes from ancestors who probably endured even greater ambient radioactivity. Thus, our cells create protein mechanisms to perepetually restore our DNA, even as it constantly degrades. Maybe radiation only causes cancer when it's received in doses that exceeds the capacity of our cells to restore? Then, as long as the radiation is received at a comfortable pace, we won't even notice any hea… | /r/MensRights | 07/04/11 11:56 AM |
| 5 | Hate speech is illegal in Sweden - unless it's against white Swedish men.What the fuck are you even trying to say here? God. This is the sort of thing that drove me away from politics for so many years: people flapping their lips without actually saying anything. | /r/MensRights | 28/02/11 06:14 AM |
| -2 | Guys... let's Think before we Link.Don't be surprised when you find out what you've done is, indeed, "shit". | /r/MensRights | 19/02/11 07:26 PM |
| 6 | Guys... let's Think before we Link.Sorry, but out of principle I'm opposed to the idea that we ought to sway others' beliefs by circumventing their intellect. Just like terrorism, it may sometimes be effective but it is nevertheless wrong. | /r/MensRights | 19/02/11 07:07 PM |
| 1 | Guys... let's Think before we Link.Only if you mistakenly thought anecdotes ever constituted evidence of anything--i.e., you were scientifically illiterate. Now, reread what I wrote bearing in mind that anecdotal "evidence" is anything but. | /r/MensRights | 19/02/11 04:54 PM |
| 2 | Guys... let's Think before we Link.First of all, I'm a guy. Second of all, I did not allege that sentencing disparity did not happen only that citing anecdotes is a poor way to substantiate that thesis. I'm really not sure what you inferred, but it was probably incorrect. | /r/MensRights | 19/02/11 04:12 PM |
| 14 | Guys... let's Think before we Link.I don't think they're trying to imply that "all women suck"--but rather that "women suck, too!" Although, I don't find that message particularly useful so I agree with the OP that the focus should be on specific injustices to men. If you can provide evidence that men are more harshly punished for strangling two year olds than women, suddenly it becomes interesting and relevant. | /r/MensRights | 19/02/11 07:57 AM |
| 5 | 19-year old guy has sex with 16-year old girlfriend. Girl's father drags him to court for kidnapping and rape. Girl says the sex was consensual. Boy gets three years for rape.Which part? The 19 year old hooking up with the 16 year old? Or the ensuing rape charges/convictions? | /r/MensRights | 01/02/11 08:17 AM |
| 9 | Women paying more than men for health insurance? Discrimination. Men paying more for life and auto insurance? No problem. Feminists only want rights when it benefits Women, not equality.Sigh. Your comment totally fails to address my point. People are coerced into buying car insurance. Yes, there are details to that coercion. No, they are not relevant. Some people require the use of the roadways in order to make a living. Such people are not "free to not get insurance". Everyone's freedom is somewhat constrained, and that should be a factor that is considered when looking at regulating an industry. | /r/MensRights | 20/01/11 06:55 PM |
| 6 | Women paying more than men for health insurance? Discrimination. Men paying more for life and auto insurance? No problem. Feminists only want rights when it benefits Women, not equality.then you're free to not get insurance Auto insurance, and soon health insurance, is mandated by the government. | /r/MensRights | 20/01/11 06:12 PM |
| 15 | Survey: 68% of men would date an unemployed woman, 80% of women would not date an unemployed manBy the transitive law of prostitution, I pronounce you man and wife. | /r/MensRights | 18/01/11 10:09 PM |
| 3 | "Dartmouth College has since established an award in Wetterhahn's name to encourage other men to pursue careers in science. Whenever possible, preference is given to a man in granting the award." Whoops, thats sexist. I meant to say "women".I'm sorry, did you provide evidence that I'm wrong? And are you seriously suggesting that America's economic recession is a result of feminism (I don't know precisely what you meant by "changing the fields" since you were weren't specific)? | /r/MensRights | 01/12/10 12:17 AM |
| 1 | "Dartmouth College has since established an award in Wetterhahn's name to encourage other men to pursue careers in science. Whenever possible, preference is given to a man in granting the award." Whoops, thats sexist. I meant to say "women".No, war is not inherently evil. War is merely a tool. It can be evil, and it's always painful, but when pursued for just ends war is good. Vaccinations are painful, and sometimes (very rarely) people even suffer fatal reactions to them. A sadistic psychopath could concentrate or reconstitute the vaccinations and use them to instigate a pandemic. But when they are used properly, in spite of the pain and occasional death, vaccinations save lives and improve standards of living. Vaccinations are no… | /r/MensRights | 01/12/10 12:14 AM |
| 6 | "Dartmouth College has since established an award in Wetterhahn's name to encourage other men to pursue careers in science. Whenever possible, preference is given to a man in granting the award." Whoops, thats sexist. I meant to say "women".I hold a rather convenient belief that anything that opens a field up and makes it more inclusive will necessarily make it more, not less, productive. So I reject the assumptions of your question. | /r/MensRights | 30/11/10 11:46 PM |
| 1 | "Dartmouth College has since established an award in Wetterhahn's name to encourage other men to pursue careers in science. Whenever possible, preference is given to a man in granting the award." Whoops, thats sexist. I meant to say "women".Sometimes war is necessary in order to prevent a greater evil (although that pretext is often misused and so any assertions of it should be heavily scrutinized). When armies are employed for that purpose they are doing a net good. | /r/MensRights | 30/11/10 11:38 PM |
| 3 | "Dartmouth College has since established an award in Wetterhahn's name to encourage other men to pursue careers in science. Whenever possible, preference is given to a man in granting the award." Whoops, thats sexist. I meant to say "women".Then, if possible, it professional science should be changed so that a year-long moratorium is not extremely damaging regardless of the reason for the moratorium. | /r/MensRights | 30/11/10 10:35 PM |
| 1 | "Dartmouth College has since established an award in Wetterhahn's name to encourage other men to pursue careers in science. Whenever possible, preference is given to a man in granting the award." Whoops, thats sexist. I meant to say "women".Indeed, a relevant article for this discussion by Philip Greenspun: http://philip.greenspun.com/careers/women-in-science | /r/MensRights | 30/11/10 10:29 PM |
| 6 | "Dartmouth College has since established an award in Wetterhahn's name to encourage other men to pursue careers in science. Whenever possible, preference is given to a man in granting the award." Whoops, thats sexist. I meant to say "women".Your "fix" completely destroys the analogy because armies are not inherently evil, while terrorism and sexism are. | /r/MensRights | 30/11/10 08:24 PM |
| 8 | "Dartmouth College has since established an award in Wetterhahn's name to encourage other men to pursue careers in science. Whenever possible, preference is given to a man in granting the award." Whoops, thats sexist. I meant to say "women".That's like using terrorism to fight terrorism. It always ends badly. We should use egalitarian methods and policies to fight sexism, not more sexism. | /r/MensRights | 30/11/10 08:15 PM |
| 10 | "Dartmouth College has since established an award in Wetterhahn's name to encourage other men to pursue careers in science. Whenever possible, preference is given to a man in granting the award." Whoops, thats sexist. I meant to say "women".Are you suggesting that minor instances of sexism should be tolerated merely because of the existence of more egregious ones? | /r/MensRights | 30/11/10 06:13 PM |
| 17 | "Dartmouth College has since established an award in Wetterhahn's name to encourage other men to pursue careers in science. Whenever possible, preference is given to a man in granting the award." Whoops, thats sexist. I meant to say "women".Yeah, it's still sexist. If women have a harder time getting into science, rather than artificially introducing sexist elements to counter-act that trend we should identify the already existing sexist elements built into the system that discriminate against women and remove them. | /r/MensRights | 30/11/10 02:50 PM |
| 1 | [XX] In my Ethics class today, I was the only person who felt that men should be considered regarding the decision to abort.Do you think equality is desirable? (And of course, I'm talking about the only kind of equality that matters: political power, from which all else flows.) | /r/MensRights | 05/11/10 07:41 PM |
| 1 | [XX] In my Ethics class today, I was the only person who felt that men should be considered regarding the decision to abort.Then you must realize your "answer" solves nothing. Do you really want to deal with the problem or do you just want to feel superior to welfare recipients? | /r/MensRights | 05/11/10 07:38 PM |
| 2 | [XX] In my Ethics class today, I was the only person who felt that men should be considered regarding the decision to abort.Welfare will never end. If the state stops giving the poor money, then the poor will simply seek it out elsewhere--and continue making bad decisions all the while. You seem to think poor, stupid people are simply going to die out. They won't. | /r/MensRights | 05/11/10 11:26 AM |
| 3 | [XX] In my Ethics class today, I was the only person who felt that men should be considered regarding the decision to abort.There's a reason classes exist in society. You sound like you're ok with that. Classes are the enemy of equality. | /r/MensRights | 05/11/10 11:23 AM |
| 2 | [XX] In my Ethics class today, I was the only person who felt that men should be considered regarding the decision to abort.In addition to material resources, children also require loving affection and attention from their parents. Lack of these psychological "resources" is absolutely devastating to the child's development. This parental behavior cannot be coerced: no judge can credibly mandate that a father be good influence in his child's life. At most, the justice system can remove a child from negligent parents... and deliver that child to a foster or group home where loving affection and care is even less likely… | /r/MensRights | 05/11/10 11:15 AM |
| 1 | [XX] In my Ethics class today, I was the only person who felt that men should be considered regarding the decision to abort.the virtues and drawbacks of government welfare is a whole issue unto itself No it's not. It's intimately connected to the issue of sexual rights, because access to the basic resources for reproduction (food, shelter, etc.) is a sexual right. | /r/MensRights | 05/11/10 10:48 AM |
| 1 | [XX] In my Ethics class today, I was the only person who felt that men should be considered regarding the decision to abort.There's no law capable of mitigating the physical and emotional costs that will be tolled on a woman, one way or the other, should she get pregnant. (And that's not because men are primarily responsible for drafting legislation in today's political mileu, either.) It is unfair. However, saddling a woman's sexual partner with the financial responsibility for her decision does not make the situation any fairer. One way to truly resolve the inequality in this scenario is to use government funding t… | /r/MensRights | 05/11/10 10:46 AM |
| 2 | [XX] In my Ethics class today, I was the only person who felt that men should be considered regarding the decision to abort.Why should he have to pay half of the abortion bill, but not half of the child's care? The pregnancy is, after all, partially his fault. | /r/MensRights | 05/11/10 10:30 AM |
| 2 | 10,000 reader celebration party for MensRightsMy bias? What exactly do you think my bias is? You claim that this subreddit is about egalitarianism, but look again at the OP: Because every man counts, especially when there are thousands of them. This phrasing specifically excludes women, suggesting by omission that every woman does not count. Why not say "every person counts--regardless of their gender"? It's that kind of sexist language that will turn off female readers, who will rightfully feel excluded. So what exactly do you think is my … | /r/MensRights | 29/07/10 03:01 PM |
| 2 | 10,000 reader celebration party for MensRightsApparently it's feminism+men's rights versus egalitarianism. The irony in this thread is so thick I'm choking on it... | /r/MensRights | 28/07/10 05:21 PM |
| -13 | 10,000 reader celebration party for MensRightsBecause every man counts, especially when there are thousands of them. This is the kind of stupid shit that tempts me to unsubscribe from this incestuous subreddit. If I were a woman reading this I would feel incredibly alienated. This "Yay, go men! rah!" attitude is the male equivalent of "gender feminism"... | /r/MensRights | 28/07/10 11:58 AM |
| 1 | The foolish feminist: Be careful who you call a misogynist, you misandristWell, I agree with what you're saying. I didn't mean to suggest that Men's Rights advocates are inherently advocating for sexist policies, only that their focus on the issues is sexist, targeted specifically on injustices perpetrated against men. While focusing on male issues may, as an incidental side effect, improve some aspects of the female condition, if done at the exclusion of all else, we can hardly expect spectacular results for the female gender. I find the injustices perpetrated on eit… | /r/MensRights | 10/07/10 03:12 PM |
| 8 | The foolish feminist: Be careful who you call a misogynist, you misandristWell, by the same token, isn't "Men's right's" inherently sexist, too? Incidentally, this is why I'm also subscribed to /r/equality... I think that's where my true loyalty lies. | /r/MensRights | 09/07/10 10:56 PM |
| 2 | Judge advocated the use of 'dog law' to punish deadbeat parents who had no ability to pay.This type of rational logic is executed all the time by animals in the wild. If a vole mother cannot provide adequate food and shelter for her young, she will consume them and wait for a more opportune chance to reproduce. This strategy, while costly in the short term, is overwhelmingly successful in the long-term, maximizing the vole's number of full-grown, healthy progeny over her expected lifetime. Nature has no qualms at all in pursuing this "bloody", "ruthless" strategy. It comes directly o… | /r/MensRights | 09/07/10 11:29 AM |
| 5 | My gym now has womens only periods. Please share your annoyances and minor (but still important) grievances.Try to get them to alternate between men's-only and women's only every other week. That's fair, at least. | /r/MensRights | 16/04/10 04:24 AM |
| 2 | Women of MensRights Take two: IF you were really concerned with mens issues, youd advocate on women's subreddits in defence of men.Gather evidence. That means keep a catalogue of the front pages of the subreddits you're interested in and track the relevant statistics. If you keep a record of your data (in the form of screen captures) you boost your credibility in that regard. In the process, you may also find your suspicions proved wrong. I think you need to narrow the target of your grievances a bit. "The feminists" is too broad a group. Not all feminists think women are superior to men. It's that kind of sweeping rhetoric… | /r/MensRights | 04/04/10 09:47 PM |
| 1 | Women of MensRights Take two: IF you were really concerned with mens issues, youd advocate on women's subreddits in defence of men.No, but the evidence points in that direction. You have to bring a little bit of intelligence to these discussions, you know... make some deductions. I've personally seen progressive-minded females post in this subreddit and in others. The fact that he hasn't suggests that he hasn't looked for very long, consistent with the 12 day hypothesis. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/10 09:28 PM |
| 1 | Women of MensRights Take two: IF you were really concerned with mens issues, youd advocate on women's subreddits in defence of men.Except that his argument is anecdotal, which means it's contingent upon his experience, which, according to the available evidence, is probably not more than 12 days worth. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/10 09:26 PM |
| 3 | Women of MensRights Take two: IF you were really concerned with mens issues, youd advocate on women's subreddits in defence of men.Yes, I find it conspicuously strange that Maschalismo hasn't come forward and said something now that several people have provided the evidence he asked for. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/10 04:57 PM |
| 6 | Women of MensRights Take two: IF you were really concerned with mens issues, youd advocate on women's subreddits in defence of men.Way to victimize yourself. Why do you care how people brand you, anyway? Why do you let that stop you from doing what you think is right? | /r/MensRights | 04/04/10 03:28 PM |
| 5 | Women of MensRights Take two: IF you were really concerned with mens issues, youd advocate on women's subreddits in defence of men.Actually, it's relevant because maschalismos is making a claim that in all of 12 days he's never observed a single empathic female on reddit, and thereby concludes there are none at all. His observation might warrant scrutiny if he had been around for many months or years, but a mere 12 days cannot possibly be enough to base such a strong hypothesis ("there are no empathic females on reddit"). Of course, anecdotes will never prove anything one way or the other; the only way to definitively answe… | /r/MensRights | 04/04/10 03:01 PM |
| 4 | Women of MensRights Take two: IF you were really concerned with mens issues, youd advocate on women's subreddits in defence of men.No, people should think about the consequences before they voice their flimsy fears and insecurities. If maschalismo confined his criticism strictly to Weirdboobs, he'd at least have a case (although even that weaker claim appears to be wrong)--but instead he generalized far beyond the evidence making him appear like a raving lunatic. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/10 02:51 PM |
| 6 | Women of MensRights Take two: IF you were really concerned with mens issues, youd advocate on women's subreddits in defence of men.It's blatantly true, if they're concerned about sexism then feminism would be their fist target. Instead they spend all their time defending feminism while treating us with suspicion. No, because the word "feminism" means different things to different people. For some, "feminism" means equality, not female superiority. So some people do not quarrel with feminism because they see it in the same way that we see men's rights: a beacon for equality. Why fight that? Furthermore, just because some wom… | /r/MensRights | 04/04/10 02:40 PM |
| 6 | Women of MensRights Take two: IF you were really concerned with mens issues, youd advocate on women's subreddits in defence of men.I could cite the specific lines and phrases I consider to be "unhinged" but we've both read Maschalismo's short polemic and you'd simply disagree with my assessment. There isn't really much substance to debate here. I've been around here long enough to know that there are progressive-minded women on this subreddit and that Maschalismo is flatly wrong in his assertion to the contrary. Reddit's search function sucks, so I couldn't find the two particular threads I have in mind, but I assure you th… | /r/MensRights | 04/04/10 02:24 PM |
| 13 | Women of MensRights Take two: IF you were really concerned with mens issues, youd advocate on women's subreddits in defence of men.Some women do and you're alienating them with these unhinged tirades. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/10 11:30 AM |
| 8 | Reaction To Women Abusing Men In PublicYeah, in order to test the hypothesis put forth by some of the bystanders that the potential damage was the factor that determined whether or not they would intervene, they should have used a larger woman and a smaller man where the possibility of real physical damage becomes obvious. Not to say that a smaller woman can't inflict real physical damage on a bigger man, it's just less obvious. | /r/MensRights | 01/04/10 03:30 AM |
| 1 | Right-wing NZ government puts forward sexist bill that forces widowed solo-fathers to seek work or lose their benefitYou don't think single parents should be offered as much opportunity to spend time with their children as possible? | /r/MensRights | 25/03/10 04:33 AM |
| 2 | The "Men Tax" in Israel: A gender-based flat rate 300$ annual men taxIs that a long way of saying "yes"? Thanks for the quote. | /r/MensRights | 17/01/10 04:00 AM |
| 0 | The "Men Tax" in Israel: A gender-based flat rate 300$ annual men taxYou're right, that is a ridiculous statement. The absolute amount of energy and attention any subject deserves is going to depend on many many variables. For instance, dead people aren't gonna give a hoot about anything! But the relative amount of interest between any two issues should be exactly proportional to the difference in harm and prevalence, at least if we're to ground our concerns logically, rather than emotionally. Whose in charge of this civilization anyway? Humans? Or Human DNA? | /r/MensRights | 17/01/10 03:48 AM |
| 1 | The "Men Tax" in Israel: A gender-based flat rate 300$ annual men taxIf a parent makes a permanent decision, it should be one that is necessary. And what if that child might face social ostracism with an uncut penis? Let's say he and his parents live in a strictly orthodox Jewish community. Would the parents be right in assuming that such a procedure is necessary for peer integration? We wouldn't tolerate this sort of procedure on any other body part, especially on a newborn, but for some reason, a male and his penis are acceptable risks. What about tonsillectomy… | /r/MensRights | 17/01/10 03:36 AM |
| 0 | The "Men Tax" in Israel: A gender-based flat rate 300$ annual men taxYou think force feeding of vegetables should/will be banned? | /r/MensRights | 17/01/10 02:59 AM |
| 0 | The "Men Tax" in Israel: A gender-based flat rate 300$ annual men taxBecause it's out of proportion. In my view there's an exact, empirically determined amount of energy and attention that ought to be invested in a particular issue. For the circumcision issue, the amount of energy and attention is not very high because the harm done by the practice is not very much. (Am I wrong?) Nevertheless, you see tremendous outcry over the circumcision issue, far out of proportion to the harm being inflicted. Are these people being motivated by rational argument? Perhaps, to… | /r/MensRights | 16/01/10 03:53 AM |
| 1 | The "Men Tax" in Israel: A gender-based flat rate 300$ annual men taxThat seems an arbitrary line there. Why can your parents make certain permanent decisions in your life, but not others? Why does this particular decision engender such a profound negative reaction, but not others? Don't take my tribal talk too literally. I don't fully understand the phenomenon (which is partly why I'm engaging in this dialogue). I don't know exactly how the tribal mechanisms of our brain evolved and I could very well be wrong. Nevertheless, my suspicion is that, in broad terms, … | /r/MensRights | 16/01/10 03:40 AM |
| 0 | The "Men Tax" in Israel: A gender-based flat rate 300$ annual men taxIt can't be about individual rights. If it's about individual rights then you have to simultaneously be against the forcing of vegetables on children. Are you? A child may grow up to resent his parents for having rammed broccoli down his or her throat as a child. Of course, in this case the parents justification is on a sturdier foundation: broccoli is probably good for you; circumcision probably not. But if it's about individual rights then it doesn't matter. The child should have the freedom, … | /r/MensRights | 16/01/10 03:29 AM |
| -2 | The "Men Tax" in Israel: A gender-based flat rate 300$ annual men taxHow about we rid the world of blatantly sexist tax policies before we start involving the government in the regulation of tribal rituals? I'm making an argument about priorities here. I agree that the fewer unnecessary medical procedures the better, but let's get our priorities straight. Circumcision is not the most evil thing facing humanity at this juncture. Okay? | /r/MensRights | 15/01/10 11:40 AM |
| -2 | The "Men Tax" in Israel: A gender-based flat rate 300$ annual men taxI'm not at all invested in the circumcision issue. What I'm invested in is the meta issue--the issue of tribalism. The distortion of people's reasoning under the taint of tribalism crops up in far more complex and serious contexts than circumcision. The issue of circumcision is relatively simple and straightforward, so it makes a good case study. | /r/MensRights | 15/01/10 11:30 AM |
| -3 | The "Men Tax" in Israel: A gender-based flat rate 300$ annual men taxI'm not telling you how you should feel about the practice, I'm asking you why you feel the way you do. I'm also offering the argument that we ought to care about things in direct proportion to their negative effects and their prevalence. My second, related argument is that the negative effects of circumcision rest almost entirely in botched circumcisions which are relatively rare. Thus, we ought to not care very much about circumcision and we certainly ought not to treat it as though it were co… | /r/MensRights | 15/01/10 10:30 AM |
| -1 | The "Men Tax" in Israel: A gender-based flat rate 300$ annual men taxI never got to see what it would be like to go through first grade with a flaming sword tattooed on my arm, either. I have my suspicions that my life might have been richer brandishing such a tattoo, but I'll never know. So it's not really a loss to me. I never knew what it would be like and I never will. Should I grieve my "loss"? Or should I instead go on with my life pretty much as though it were the irrelevancy it is? | /r/MensRights | 15/01/10 10:19 AM |
| -1 | The "Men Tax" in Israel: A gender-based flat rate 300$ annual men taxThere is a small chance of infection during the procedure - accidents happen. Yes. And the likelihood for that outcome is exactly proportional to the amount of caring we ought to have for this issue because the successful circumcisions do not cause permanent damage to the sexual experience. There is also the chance of psychological problems in later life for various reasons associated with the circumcision. There is also the chance of psychological problems in later life for various reasons asso… | /r/MensRights | 15/01/10 10:06 AM |
| -6 | The "Men Tax" in Israel: A gender-based flat rate 300$ annual men taxThat's your argument? Look, I've GOT mutilated genitals. They work fine. I can't imagine enjoying sex more than I already do. Do you really want to crusade on my behalf? Is my life really so impoverished? Or are there better things to be thinking about and campaigning for? Okay? I'm not saying it's good. I'm saying there's way worse things out there to be concerned about. | /r/MensRights | 15/01/10 06:59 AM |
| -3 | The "Men Tax" in Israel: A gender-based flat rate 300$ annual men taxOkay, let me put it this way: Maybe my life would be happier if I had had a bad ass tattoo on my arm from the age of 6 onward. Maybe I would've gotten laid in elementary school or something. Too late for that now, but who knows? I still don't care one way or the other because I'm happy with how things have turned out. | /r/MensRights | 15/01/10 05:11 AM |
| 0 | The "Men Tax" in Israel: A gender-based flat rate 300$ annual men taxAnd you think that the brain modifications attendant with socialization aren't at least as permanent as an arm tatoo? A child has no say in how they're raised, or the lessons their parents teach them. When a parent's attempt to socialize their kid does not harm the child's ability to exist peacefully and happily in society then we look warmly on their efforts--but they're still permanently molding their child according to their own image, not the child's. When that socialization process begins t… | /r/MensRights | 15/01/10 04:55 AM |
| -7 | The "Men Tax" in Israel: A gender-based flat rate 300$ annual men taxYes, but does that translate into reducing the experience of sex? And by how much? I'm circumsized and I'm perfectly content with the sensitivity of the head of my penis. I feel more than enough pleasure to satisfy myself. Are there throngs of men suffering from numbness because of their mutilated dick? I doubt it. Probably only botched circumcisions negatively impact a man's sexual enjoyment -- but the circumcision in itself does not seem like a sexually crippling procedure. So why is this such… | /r/MensRights | 15/01/10 03:43 AM |
| -6 | The "Men Tax" in Israel: A gender-based flat rate 300$ annual men taxThanks for not answering my question. Look, I don't have an axe to grind. I don't care one way or the other. I happen to be circumsized, but my penis still works fine. I don't know if my pleasure might be "greater" with an intact foreskin, and frankly, I don't care. My life might be more pleasurable with a bad ass tatoo on my arm as well, but I don't spend my nights sleeplessly fretting about that possibility. I'm happy with my penis. I don't feel like I've been violated by having been circumsiz… | /r/MensRights | 15/01/10 03:33 AM |
| -16 | The "Men Tax" in Israel: A gender-based flat rate 300$ annual men taxWhy is this a big deal? It does not prevent the boys from experiencing pleasure when they grow up. If it were customary to permanently tatoo a baby boy would you be similarly outraged at the violation of their freedom? EDIT: I'm loving the down votes here because it tells me something. Circumcision isn't about health or about violations of the children's body or any of that. It's about tribalism. It's fear of the other. YOUR tribe doesn't circumcize. YOUR tribe is civilized. Therefore, I can be … | /r/MensRights | 15/01/10 01:41 AM |
| 3 | Woman angry at man's leaving her, rigs his power tools to deliver a 220v shock. Arrest, Bail, Jail? Nah, let's practice a little catch and release."they will probably make it domestic battery" <_< >_> | /r/MensRights | 14/01/10 01:17 AM |
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