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1	[CMV] I have come believe that feminism stigmatizes male heterosexuality as inherently rapist in the same way Christian evangelicals stigmatize homosexual males as pedophiles. Troll better.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/17 06:33 PM
1	[CMV] I have come believe that feminism stigmatizes male heterosexuality as inherently rapist in the same way Christian evangelicals stigmatize homosexual males as pedophiles. Troll better.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/17 06:16 PM
2	[CMV] I have come believe that feminism stigmatizes male heterosexuality as inherently rapist in the same way Christian evangelicals stigmatize homosexual males as pedophiles. Your arguing is actually getting worse, fyi. That's not an insult, it's a rebuttal. And I said otherwise where? you claimed more women rape than men here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/5y6jhw/cmv_i_have_come_believe_that_feminism_stigmatizes/dep4ih7/ and here https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/5y6jhw/cmv_i_have_come_believe_that_feminism_stigmatizes/depoob2/ You were proven wrong by your own study here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/5y6jh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/17 05:58 PM
1	[CMV] I have come believe that feminism stigmatizes male heterosexuality as inherently rapist in the same way Christian evangelicals stigmatize homosexual males as pedophiles. Has it accord to you to actually ask me to support it? lol, no, no it hasn't. In a debate sub, on a debate thread, it didn't occur to me that someone making baseless claims needs to be asked to actually back up their claims directly. Most people would understand that explicitly through the forum. The rest would likely figure it out implicitly through the fact that the other commenters are consistently providing arguments and that maybe you should, too. I have gotten condescending towards the end…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/17 05:47 PM
2	[CMV] I have come believe that feminism stigmatizes male heterosexuality as inherently rapist in the same way Christian evangelicals stigmatize homosexual males as pedophiles. Again, reading comprehension. That's not saying that 52% of males (which is still more than 50%, so still directly contradicting your claim that females assault more) commit a violent sexual act at that age. It's saying that, among those who do commit an act, the age at which they first commit some act ace much, much higher for younger males and it's not til this age where the first acts become somewhat equal. This is because it's measuring the first act, and as you can see in the study, most pe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/17 05:40 PM
1	[CMV] I have come believe that feminism stigmatizes male heterosexuality as inherently rapist in the same way Christian evangelicals stigmatize homosexual males as pedophiles. Because 'mental gymnastics' and 'jumping through hoops' are two very, very different phrases that mean totally different things, and since I was doing neither, neither of them make sense? Now, it's been close to 10 comments since you actually tried to back your claims up in any way, shape, or form, so I'll assume you've realized you were wrong about the author claiming that 'all men are rapists', unless you pull some new source out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/17 05:23 PM
1	[CMV] I have come believe that feminism stigmatizes male heterosexuality as inherently rapist in the same way Christian evangelicals stigmatize homosexual males as pedophiles. I literally complimented you, to avoid insults. Are you not trying to say "jumping through hoops"? Does that have some esoteric idiomatic meaning? Cause google just corrects it to 'jumping through hoops', which, again, doesn't make sense in your context.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/17 04:45 PM
2	[CMV] I have come believe that feminism stigmatizes male heterosexuality as inherently rapist in the same way Christian evangelicals stigmatize homosexual males as pedophiles. Did you even make it past the abstract, cause their conclusions seems to indicate you're reading something wrong: In studies that include both adolescent males and females as perpetrators, females are less likely to engage in sexually violent behavior than males.13- 15	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/17 04:42 PM
1	[CMV] I have come believe that feminism stigmatizes male heterosexuality as inherently rapist in the same way Christian evangelicals stigmatize homosexual males as pedophiles. Is english maybe not your first language? That'd explain why your idioms are wrong and the reading comprehension issues. If so, it's taken me this long to put together, so you're doing really well. I couldn't make it this far in French without someone realizing it was a second language. Anyways, the sentence you just typed doesn't make sense. I think you're trying to use the phrase "jumping through hoops", but that refers to doing a bunch of extra things to get some small reward.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/17 04:35 PM
1	[CMV] I have come believe that feminism stigmatizes male heterosexuality as inherently rapist in the same way Christian evangelicals stigmatize homosexual males as pedophiles. First, that's not what a straw man is. Second, you claimed that the author believes all men are rapists https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/5y6jhw/comment/deoxkq3?st=J02HQGPD&sh=01b9069e and your evidence for that has devolved to simply "the author admitted she was angry at one point". https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/5y6jhw/comment/dep6wog?st=J02HUXLZ&sh=853a25e1 Unless you have something better than that, you don't have a leg to stand on anymore.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/17 02:33 PM
1	[CMV] I have come believe that feminism stigmatizes male heterosexuality as inherently rapist in the same way Christian evangelicals stigmatize homosexual males as pedophiles. And you're saying that every angry person believes that all men are rapists? If you'd reread my last comment I was pretty clear about how your quote is a great example of what I meant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/17 07:15 AM
1	[CMV] I have come believe that feminism stigmatizes male heterosexuality as inherently rapist in the same way Christian evangelicals stigmatize homosexual males as pedophiles. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Antecedent The 'fact' that line is referring to is the fact that her daughter was raped. The quote you're ascribing to the author's belief is still just a quote in the novel. You can't ascribe every character's quotes to the author's opinion. Like how Orwell obviously believed that all people, all genders were equal. Hence why he was a feminist. Your quote, then, is the exact opposite of the author's actual opinion and is exactly what I was talking about.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/17 05:44 AM
2	[CMV] I have come believe that feminism stigmatizes male heterosexuality as inherently rapist in the same way Christian evangelicals stigmatize homosexual males as pedophiles. character. In a novel. Do you ascribe every quote in 1984 to Orwell? Is he both a fascist and a freedom fighter?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/17 03:31 AM
2	[CMV] I have come believe that feminism stigmatizes male heterosexuality as inherently rapist in the same way Christian evangelicals stigmatize homosexual males as pedophiles. Yes, the 8 paid weeks I get off to bond with my son benefits women more directly than me, because it may help close a $.07/hour wage gap.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/17 10:43 PM
2	[CMV] I have come believe that feminism stigmatizes male heterosexuality as inherently rapist in the same way Christian evangelicals stigmatize homosexual males as pedophiles. Spoken by a fictional character, from a work of fiction. and is often cited, wrongly, as one of the tenets of modern feminism. Should be all you need to put it together that the author doesn't actually believe that statement.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/17 10:41 PM
2	[CMV] I have come believe that feminism stigmatizes male heterosexuality as inherently rapist in the same way Christian evangelicals stigmatize homosexual males as pedophiles. And? It still is a feminist issue that benefits men more than women, as is clear in that article if you read the whole thing. Change can benefit both sexes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/17 10:38 PM
2	[CMV] I have come believe that feminism stigmatizes male heterosexuality as inherently rapist in the same way Christian evangelicals stigmatize homosexual males as pedophiles. Your reading comprehension needs some work. Try reading through that quote again.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/17 10:35 PM
1	[CMV] I have come believe that feminism stigmatizes male heterosexuality as inherently rapist in the same way Christian evangelicals stigmatize homosexual males as pedophiles. k https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/11/both-moms-and-dads-need-paid-leave/417708/	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/17 10:33 PM
2	[CMV] I have come believe that feminism stigmatizes male heterosexuality as inherently rapist in the same way Christian evangelicals stigmatize homosexual males as pedophiles. Feminism argued for men getting parental leave too, then many companies started offering it to men, including mine.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/17 10:28 PM
2	[CMV] I have come believe that feminism stigmatizes male heterosexuality as inherently rapist in the same way Christian evangelicals stigmatize homosexual males as pedophiles. asks for direct evidence of feminism helping men dismisses direct evidence of feminism helping men	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/17 07:44 PM
2	[CMV] I have come believe that feminism stigmatizes male heterosexuality as inherently rapist in the same way Christian evangelicals stigmatize homosexual males as pedophiles. This and paid maternity leave (getting paid not to work) Funny that you mention that, thanks to the feminist movement, I'm taking my 8 fully paid weeks off to bond with my new son starting in just over 30 days. Thanks feminism!	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/17 06:55 PM
2	[CMV] I have come believe that feminism stigmatizes male heterosexuality as inherently rapist in the same way Christian evangelicals stigmatize homosexual males as pedophiles. Marilyn French, the woman who coined the term "All men are rapists," had this to say about the whole thing: The novel's [The Women's Room] best-known line - "All men are rapists, and that's all they are" - has not been an easy legacy for the next three decades of feminism. Spoken in anger by one of the book's most radical characters, a woman whose daughter has been gang-raped, it entered the popular lexicon and is often cited, wrongly, as one of the tenets of modern feminism. French's own daught…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/17 05:28 PM
1	[CMV] I have come believe that feminism stigmatizes male heterosexuality as inherently rapist in the same way Christian evangelicals stigmatize homosexual males as pedophiles. I know your time in /r/altright really only exposed you to your bubble, but a lot of what you posted is factually inaccurate. 1, feminism is about 'equality of the sexes' and benefits men in ways like: trying to end/equalize the draft, trying to get male rape victims respected, and trying to balance the imbalanced legal system. If you did read any actual academic sources about feminism rather than watching anti-feminism outrage porn, you'd know that. Women work, too. There are plenty in the work…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/17 05:23 PM
3	[CMV] I have come believe that feminism stigmatizes male heterosexuality as inherently rapist in the same way Christian evangelicals stigmatize homosexual males as pedophiles. Feminist man here, literally no one I've ever met who identified as a feminist, even the (actually) blue haired ones have ever expressed this either. And the original source of the quote always said that it wasn't a literal or factually-intended quote. It's from a fictional story ffs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/17 05:14 PM
1	What is your first reaction when a woman says she's a feminist? Most companies are OK, but not Kraft.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/17 11:11 PM
3	What is your first reaction when a woman says she's a feminist? Not all cheeses. Many are made with animal derived rennet, like all traditional parmesan is required to be. Since animal rennet requires killing an animal to acquire, it makes the product non-vegetarian.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/17 09:53 PM
3	Q4 Gender studies students. Has the material on PPD and similar subreddits made you question any of what is taught in those classes? Biological and physiological differences mean that different laws should apply to different genders?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/17 11:35 PM
5	Q4 Gender studies students. Has the material on PPD and similar subreddits made you question any of what is taught in those classes? I like how you added "and crickets" after he replied.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/17 07:02 PM
14	Q4 Gender studies students. Has the material on PPD and similar subreddits made you question any of what is taught in those classes? Gender studies includes women's studies, men's studies, sexuality studies, and LGBT studies. You're overly narrowing the scope because it fits your narrative. Intersectionality is a concept that came up in high school psych class. It basically says that identity politics focusing on a single aspect of someone gives an incomplete view. Someone isn't just female, she's also white, and poor, and straight, and baptist, and from chile, and... I don't see how that comes across as some conspiracy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/17 06:05 PM
13	Q4 Gender studies students. Has the material on PPD and similar subreddits made you question any of what is taught in those classes? Never heard of her. Also, can't find her name listed on any course's required reading for any school program anywhere. I did find a site specifically saying that collegiate programs intentionally shy away from assigning her reading, though. I'm not conflating biology courses with women's study courses, you asked about gender studies and I replied with my collegiate experience in studying gender. Along with 430,000 sources of scientific study of gender. It's impressive how you tried to shift the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/17 05:37 PM
15	Q4 Gender studies students. Has the material on PPD and similar subreddits made you question any of what is taught in those classes? lol, yes. The study of gender is absolutely science based. Here are 493,000 academic results for "gender and brain physiology". I guess 'off topic' is the new 'fake news'.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/17 05:22 PM
17	Q4 Gender studies students. Has the material on PPD and similar subreddits made you question any of what is taught in those classes? I minored in evolutionary anthropology and all discussions about gender were totally science based in those courses. Brain scans, psychology studies, hormone ratios and release rates, etc. None of the science contradicted feminism's claim that 'all genders should be treated equally'. I also haven't seen any "intelligent people dismantling the various weird claims that have grown up in the academic feminist bubble."	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/17 05:11 PM
6	Why is everyone so hung up on n-count? It seems to be tied with other feelings of inadequacy, to me. It's always the 'If I wasn't her biggest, I can't please her" types that seem to care. I'm a late 20s guy who never cared about n count in partners at all. Just STD status.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/16 08:24 PM
1	CMV: Despite feminism trying to shame men into finding undesirable women attractive, all it's doing is making attractive to supermodel status more valuable. I meant millennials.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/16 07:27 PM
1	CMV: Despite feminism trying to shame men into finding undesirable women attractive, all it's doing is making attractive to supermodel status more valuable. NAMALT	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/16 07:04 PM
1	CMV: Despite feminism trying to shame men into finding undesirable women attractive, all it's doing is making attractive to supermodel status more valuable. I do all the time, including this one. There was even a discussion probably a month ago about how often low or no-faith posts remain no matter how many reports are made. edit: just look at how many of the toplevel comments are questioning this poster's good faith effort, and pointing out that this post is more of a rant than a discussion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/16 06:44 PM
2	Women want to close the wage gap by simultaneously wanting men who make more money [citations needed]	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/16 10:13 PM
3	Women want to close the wage gap by simultaneously wanting men who make more money lol, no. And that's not what anyone has claimed in recent history. What anyone who's followed any amount of research understands that, accounting for personal choices like major, par/full time status/childcare, etc. there's still an unexplainable 5-7% pay gap. https://web.archive.org/web/20131008051216/http://www.consad.com/content/reports/Gender%20Wage%20Gap%20Final%20Report.pdf	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/16 09:53 PM
4	Women want to close the wage gap by simultaneously wanting men who make more money That's literally an opinion piece. Studies have concluded over and over, that no matter how many factors you consider, women are paid less than men. It's in the 5-7% range.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/16 09:37 PM
2	Women want to close the wage gap by simultaneously wanting men who make more money Most analyses of the wage gap take that into consideration. That's why conversation has dropped to a few percent instead of the 27% or whatever it used to be.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/16 09:35 PM
2	Men and ROMCOMS No, it'd be like if a whole bunch of people agreed that sausage and donuts were breakfast foods, but someone made a burger out of them you declare it no longer a breakfast food, because the genre is now burger, dammit, regardless of its constituent parts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/16 10:45 PM
2	Men and ROMCOMS OR maybe, just maybe art is subjective	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/16 10:42 PM
2	Men and ROMCOMS That's why I got my list from critics' lists, for the most part.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/16 10:40 PM
1	Men and ROMCOMS Rom com = (love story + comedy)	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/16 10:34 PM
1	Men and ROMCOMS Here's a great link showing how Deadpool is a romcom. All of those movies came from critics' lists of the best romcoms except 3 or 4 from other guys in this thread. Regardless, every single person who plays the 'these aren't romcom genre' has refused to give a definition that counters my "is a romance, and is funny" definition. Even if you did eliminate every single one of these which, in your subjective opinion, wasn't a romcom that'd still leave, what a dozen? that most guys appreciate and are…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/16 10:19 PM
2	Men and ROMCOMS There are exceptions, like Mr. and Mrs. Smith sheeeeit. I forgot about that one. Great movie. Also, excellent analysis. You summed it up way better than I could, though your meet-cute and proposal vid links are swapped.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/16 09:24 PM
2	Men and ROMCOMS atlas will never admit she is wrong. it's kind of a running joke around here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/16 09:21 PM
4	Men and ROMCOMS A zom-rom-com	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/16 09:20 PM
1	Men and ROMCOMS And no man you've ever met likes any of those couple dozen movies I listed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/16 08:35 PM
1	Men and ROMCOMS On the planet where it's author describes it as a love story, and it's also funny?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/16 08:35 PM
3	Men and ROMCOMS So then, yes, you admit that you were mistaken when you said "i have NEVER met a man who watched "romcoms" in my life!"?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/16 07:22 PM
3	Men and ROMCOMS It's funny, like you said, and its plot mostly revolves around his relationship with Liz. I know it's not a traditional style rom-com, but google's 119,000+ results for ""shaun of the dead" "romantic comedy" shows i'm not the only one who thought so.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/16 07:17 PM
3	Men and ROMCOMS LOL. AFI does consider many of mine in their top 50 RomComs. So even by your definition, you have to admit probably ~80%+ of mine, which are all found on various critics' lists of RomComs, are Men-accepted RomComs. 40 year old virgin made the list. Annie Hall Jerry Maguire Pretty Woman Say Anything Sixteen Candles Should have been on my list, but weren't: There's Something about Mary Wedding Singer Clueless, which is definitely on par with several of my 1990's movies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/16 07:11 PM
2	Men and ROMCOMS How to Lose a Guy in Ten Days adding that one to my list of 'guy accepted' romcoms above.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/16 06:43 PM
3	Men and ROMCOMS Yeah, I asked OP for a definition a few times and haven't gotten one, but there's always going to be some difference of opinion about what counts and what isn't quite enough. I even left some controversial ones on the list intentionally, like Fight Club. The author very specifically describes it as a "love story". It's mostly drama and less comedy, but definitely funny at many points.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/16 06:34 PM
9	Men and ROMCOMS A(n incomplete) list of RomComs (as defined by "a central romance and a good handful of funny moments) I'd watch alone, as a guy: the Princess Bride American Pie Scott Pilgrim 10 Things I hate about you 40 year old Virgin Groundhog Day Jerry Maguire African Queen Wall-E Waitress Juno Silver Linings Playbook 500 Days of Summer The Graduate Knocked Up Little Shop of Horrors Pretty Woman 16 Candles Say Anything Amelie Annie Hall High Fidelity Serendipity Wristcutters Eternal Sunshine Deadpool Fight…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/16 06:27 PM
5	Men and ROMCOMS Why not?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/16 06:14 PM
3	Men and ROMCOMS OK, but why? I also asked " Is it a romance movie showing the entering and/or growth of two people in a romantic relationship, where you also laugh a good handful of times?", which all those meet. Would you name some RomComs? edits: adding a list: Is the Princess Bride? American Pie? Scott Pilgrim? 10 Things? 40 year old Virgin? Groundhog Day? Jerry Maguire? African Queen? Wall-E? Waitress? Juno? Silver Linings Playbook? 500 Days of Summer? The Graduate? Knocked Up? Little Shop of Horrors? Prett…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/16 06:12 PM
3	Men and ROMCOMS Depends in what you consider a RomCom. Is it a romance movie showing the entering and/or growth of two people in a romantic relationship, where you also laugh a good handful of times? I can't stand a lot of the garbage formulaic romcoms coming out, but I'll definitely watch High Fidelity alone over and over. Or Serendipity. (Also non-John Cusack movies, but once I thought of High Fidelity, I'm having a hard time thinking of others.) Is "Wristcutters" RomCom? Eternal Sunshine? Deadpool? Fight Clu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/16 05:44 PM
29	How many Red Pillers here associate with the MRA? How many Blue Pillers here associate with Feminism? Either way, please elaborate why. MRA: men should have equal rights and privileges to women Yep. Can't agree more. From paternal rights with child rearing, to unequal incarceration, to having to sign up for the draft. I believe all people are created equal and it's stupid to treat them unequally. Feminism: women should have equal rights and privileges to men Yep. Can't agree more. From negative stereotyping pushing women to lesser paying jobs, to marital rape, to body autonomy. I believe all people are created equal and it's stu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/16 08:38 AM
2	Does sexual assault/rape go towards N-count? Then she can, to me, claim to be a virgin. Jut not without declaring the child too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/16 07:11 AM
3	Does sexual assault/rape go towards N-count? In my opinion, N count is purely consensual encounters. I even have no problem with a rape victim saying they're still a virgin. It does come with one huge caveat though: you can't claim to be a virgin and not offer that you also have a child/std from the encounter. IMO virginity implies the other two and that'd be a lie of omission.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/16 12:56 AM
5	CMV:Trump is the text book definition of beta bux He underperformed simply taking that money and sticking it in $SPY.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/16 09:17 PM
1	CMV:Trump is the text book definition of beta bux Trump has literally said he wants a nuclear arms race in SEA and has no issue with other countries, specifically mentioning Saudi Arabia, having nuclear weapons. As well as expressing a desire to use our nukes proactively. To the point where members of our government actually had to reassure our allies that none of that was, or would be, US policy, since it'd violate just about every modern treaty.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/16 09:15 PM
5	Is Hillary hated here just because she panders to feminist views, or for other reasons also? Is it actually seriously believed in America that the Clintons actually murdered their opponents? Only in conspiracy circles. Most people saw all of the attempts at unearthing a true scandal for the Clintons as a positive for them, since there have been dozens and dozens and none have ever stuck (except the obvious Lewinsky scandal). I'm certainly not a fan of hers, but she's the best candidate left in this election cycle.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/16 05:46 PM
2	CMV: Trump supporters shouldn't be shamed Appeal to false authority is the phrase you're looking for. Appeal to authority is perfectly acceptable debate technique. The "lobby" behind it is "people who want a planet to leave their kids". You said that you'd take scientists opinions, because they looked at the science. And I gave you that. 97% of the people who've looked at the concrete evidence agree. If you want to read it yourself, fine. Here's 33,000 articles that directly refer to anthropogenic climate change. 97+% of them will back …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/16 08:08 PM
1	CMV: Trump supporters shouldn't be shamed There are definitely some normal fluctuations, yes. And the people who've studied all of those fluctuations are 97% in agreement that this is not that. You started this conversation pointing out that scientists know what they're talking about. 97% of them, who have studied the available data, agree that this is man-made climate change. Just because you want to stick your head in the sand and pretend like it's not doesn't change that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/16 07:56 PM
2	CMV: Trump supporters shouldn't be shamed The fact that you said 'merely 6 degrees' is really telling that you haven't read one iota of any of the evidence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/16 07:46 PM
3	CMV: Trump supporters shouldn't be shamed Aww, the mods (or the user?) deleted the comments claiming the Nazis were the good guys.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/16 07:41 PM
2	CMV: Trump supporters shouldn't be shamed ..and there are many studies that suggest otherwise. No there aren't. Otherwise 97% of scientists wouldn't be convinced of it. Here's a chart that shows all that history for the context you think is missing. Who is to say that this isn't part of a natural cycle, or a random change of climate? The people who study climate science their whole lives. Who are all telling you it's happening. When it comes to the rise in carbon dioxide levels in the past century remember this: correlation does not equ…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/16 07:04 PM
6	CMV: Trump supporters shouldn't be shamed You're actually really close to actual science without even knowing it. Turns out, one of the major sources of greenhouse gas emissions is our factory farming, specifically dairy ranches. Your dog's poop, however has been shown by science to be neutral to climate change since it's minor and mitigated by natural processes. You're also right that everything on the planet is somehow connected to climate, however, it evolved into a mostly stable system until our exponential growth and engineering st…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/16 07:03 PM
1	CMV: Trump supporters shouldn't be shamed I think black people will hurt me innocents die, but necessary to win a war the point isn't to kill innocent civilians I'd target the regressive left if I could, but by this point it's any means necessary. So black people, by virtue of their skin color are a danger to you, you're ok with killing innocent civilians to protect yourself, and you'd target leaders if you could, but you can't so you have to target the others instead. Yeah, no, nothing at all implied there. Jesus man, read what you wro…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/16 06:59 PM
4	CMV: Trump supporters shouldn't be shamed Oh, my troll sense was a little slow today.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/16 06:41 PM
2	CMV: Trump supporters shouldn't be shamed What is this regressive left you're talking about? Wouldn't a regressive political bloc literally be the antithesis of social justice proponents? Wanting to kill black people en masse because you think they might hurt you is definitely defined by most as 'hatred'.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/16 06:37 PM
2	CMV: Trump supporters shouldn't be shamed k, what about fox news claiming both were founders?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/16 06:32 PM
1	CMV: Trump supporters shouldn't be shamed I think he'd at least try. I tend to jump to 'worst case scenario' and he's demonstrated enough that he doesn't care about the constitution. For instance, I know that it'd be impossible for CBP to round up 10+ million illegal immigrants and deport them. I don't think it's past Trump telling his supporters to do it for them, though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/16 06:30 PM
1	CMV: Trump supporters shouldn't be shamed Or a president willing to violate the constitution.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/16 06:22 PM
6	CMV: Trump supporters shouldn't be shamed Labeling any individual the sole founder of ISIS would probably be an oversimplification given the wide range of factors that contributed to its rise. But two figures—Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi—stand out as the most pivotal in the organization’s ascent to international infamy. -Time Magazine. So, you're both smug. You're both wrong. You're also both right.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/16 06:17 PM
5	CMV: Trump supporters shouldn't be shamed I can't speak to this. I haven't done enough research on the science and I'm not a scientist myself. So you imply that scientists could speak to it then? Cause they overwhelmingly agree that man-made climate change is real.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/16 06:14 PM
3	CMV: Trump supporters shouldn't be shamed It's not 'leftism'; it's science. Scientists, who could be easily proven wrong if they were in fact incorrect, have found piles and piles more evidence that humans are changing the global climate. The predictive models for what exactly that change is going to be have been refined with more evidence. I'd love if the new evidence showed that the global climate wasn't warming at the fastest rate ever. I'd love if it turned out we weren't causing holes in the ozone layer and increased greenhouse gas…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/16 06:12 PM
2	CMV: Trump supporters shouldn't be shamed How do people fighting for social equality cause you to hate black people?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/16 05:55 PM
2	Last Names Misogynist and patriarchal don't necessarily go hand-in-hand. Neither does 'evil' and 'patriarchal'. But denying that giving your wife your name to imply ownership is patriarchal just shows an ignorance of the definition.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/16 05:45 PM
3	Last Names However, it is actually illegal where I live You're the second person in this thread to say something like that. Where do you live where it's illegal to take your spouse's name? Is any name change legal? Does any name change custom for marriages exist at all there?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/16 05:36 PM
1	Last Names I would likely keep my name unless certain government forms required that I go by my official married name. You aren't legally required to change anything about your name at all in any jurisdiction I'm aware of. If you want to continue using your maiden name, just don't fill out any name change paperwork and your maiden name will also be your 'official married name'.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/16 05:33 PM
3	Last Names I promise if I ever meet you in person, I'll turn to you and ask if you're ever offended that he didn't take yours, just to break the monotony.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/16 05:32 PM
5	Last Names This kind of question always comes up in discussions about marriage dynamics and it always seems weird to me. Child support goes to the kid's needs. Of course both parents should contribute to it proportionally. It has absolutely no dependence on the relationship between the two parents.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/16 05:29 PM
2	Last Names While I appreciate the cutesy metaphors of how you're using 'owns' that's not what advocates of the C/FM marriage mean when they say own. They use it as a denigrating term meaning she's less than a full partner in the marriage. The 'united in one entity' aspect comes wholly from the wedding ceremony and any marriage licensure involved.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/16 05:20 PM
2	Last Names Even if his family name is Rothchild-Carnegie and her last name is Smith?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/16 05:17 PM
4	Last Names So you're saying if the woman's name is simpler and shorter, that should become the family name instead?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/16 05:15 PM
1	Last Names Are you talking about prenuptial agreements? They're limited in scope (just like any contract would be), but they're not 100% null-and-void in all cases. Especially since much of marriage is on a state-by-state basis. Regardless, the OP never specified what kind of contract. Maybe /u/sen--sen signed a contract and the marriage was the fulfillment of the contract itself. You need way more information before claiming that you know the contract law about this specific contract.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/16 05:11 PM
8	Last Names I get that some may take the idea of 'patriarchy' way too far sometimes, but you see that there are people in this thread literally saying that they want their wife to take their name to signify that the husband owns them. That's literally the definition of patriarchy. Like, the literal dictionary definition.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/16 05:05 PM
4	Why are polyamourous people, for a lack of better term, weird? That's exactly what I said though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/16 04:23 PM
12	Why are polyamourous people, for a lack of better term, weird? Only one of my poly friends has more than just ear piercings. I think your problem is confirmation bias. You don't notice the normal people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/16 04:07 PM
1	CMV: Having a series of 1-2 month relationships is not serial monogamy, most women aren't serial monogamists I totally agree with you. That's the definition of serial monogamy. It has no denotation of STR status, though some seem keen on projecting it in.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/10/16 08:20 PM
1	CMV: Having a series of 1-2 month relationships is not serial monogamy, most women aren't serial monogamists Either you linked the wrong study, or you're drawing conclusions that aren't there. That says that 20% of college students (not just women) who self report to hooking up (so virgins are already eliminated) have that many partners. Of course a 9 minute relationship can be monogamous. Find me a dictionary whose definition of monogamous precludes that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/10/16 12:31 AM
1	CMV: Having a series of 1-2 month relationships is not serial monogamy, most women aren't serial monogamists Except that there are plenty of people in this thread saying you're projecting more into the definition than it contains. That's why we have all these modifiers. "Fishers of men" is also a really bad example since it's a metaphor and not just a phrase.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/16 10:12 PM
1	CMV: Having a series of 1-2 month relationships is not serial monogamy, most women aren't serial monogamists That's not my definition that's the dictionary definition. Those are relationships [interactions between two people]. Those are monogamous [the only concurrent sexual relationship for both parties]. They are not committed. They are not long term. They are not serious. They're not traditional. But that's why we have these other adjectives. Because monogamous has one definition and it doesn't worry about other factors. Could you imagine how many words we'd have to have if every single one covered …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/16 09:09 PM
1	CMV: Having a series of 1-2 month relationships is not serial monogamy, most women aren't serial monogamists Monogamous literally means that it's the only current sexual relationship. Nothing more, by definition. If you're friends with benefits, or fuckbuddies, or married, and you're both only having sex with each other while that relationship is active, is a monogamous relationship. Full stop. A ONS who the guy texts for a while but nothing comes of it is technically a monogamous relationship until he sleeps with someone else. People who drunkenly hook up a few times over a six month period (despite f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/16 09:04 PM
1	CMV: Having a series of 1-2 month relationships is not serial monogamy, most women aren't serial monogamists I only had sex with 5 [new] girls in college. 2 were virgins. 1 freshman year and one sophomore. The rest were pre-college. And studies show that ~20% of college graduates are virgins still. edit: Another source: Though it may not assuage their concerns, Nicole and Rachel have a lot of company. According to the Online College Social Life Survey, a study of more than 24,000 students at campuses across America, 20 percent of college students graduate without ever having sex — a minority, to be sur…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/16 08:33 PM
1	CMV: Having a series of 1-2 month relationships is not serial monogamy, most women aren't serial monogamists Then why ask if she was monogamous in her history? If she's going to lie about anything, you can't trust anything she tells you anyways. I believe every girl who's ever given me her n count. Most of them were at 0 when we started our relationship and my wife was at 0 when we started dating in college. I also don't care one iota about n count as long as she has no STDs, I'm totally good. And again, not all ONS are monogamous. Only if they're the only concurrent sexual relationship. Or you redefin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/16 08:13 PM
1	CMV: Having a series of 1-2 month relationships is not serial monogamy, most women aren't serial monogamists Yeah, so is a fling not a relationship to you? I thought that was your implication above.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/16 08:08 PM
2	CMV: Having a series of 1-2 month relationships is not serial monogamy, most women aren't serial monogamists But that's not abused. That's correctly used. And if you fall for it without asking for her n count, that's on you. (if you care about that kind of thing)	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/16 08:07 PM
1	CMV: Having a series of 1-2 month relationships is not serial monogamy, most women aren't serial monogamists For each sexual encounter, yes, but the relationships are non-monogamous in your example, because they overlap.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/16 08:02 PM
1	CMV: Having a series of 1-2 month relationships is not serial monogamy, most women aren't serial monogamists I think you're taking that one person's view to be too widely accepted. You can see reds and blues on both sides of this discussion in this thread alone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/16 08:00 PM
1	CMV: Having a series of 1-2 month relationships is not serial monogamy, most women aren't serial monogamists Technically relationships that last 9 minutes are monogamous too. And technically, technically is all that matters. I'm glad you're finally seeing the definition.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/16 07:59 PM
2	CMV: Having a series of 1-2 month relationships is not serial monogamy, most women aren't serial monogamists Why is 'long term relationship' a phrase then, if all relationships have to be long term? Don't you and I have a relationship right now, "two people discussing sexuality in a forum" is a relationship. It's not a sexual one, it's not a romantic one, I suppose an 'academic relationship' is probably the best phrase, maybe, but we have a relationship because we're interacting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/16 07:58 PM
1	CMV: Having a series of 1-2 month relationships is not serial monogamy, most women aren't serial monogamists Every definition I've used has the exact same time requirement: the length of the relationship. If the relationship lasts 2 hours, and it wasn't a threeway, it was a monogamous one night stand. If the relationships last a week and are concurrent, they're non monogamous. Words have meanings. Monogamous means "only one sexual relationship at a time"	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/16 07:55 PM
3	CMV: Having a series of 1-2 month relationships is not serial monogamy, most women aren't serial monogamists Because we're not talking about marriage here, we're talking about sexual relationships? This wouldn't be a question if monogamous meant only 'married' don't be ridiculous.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/16 07:49 PM
1	CMV: Having a series of 1-2 month relationships is not serial monogamy, most women aren't serial monogamists No, if you're having sex with person a on tues, wed, and thurs, and person b on mon, wed, and fri, you're non monogamous.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/16 07:48 PM
3	CMV: Having a series of 1-2 month relationships is not serial monogamy, most women aren't serial monogamists Ok, but what about married swingers? Or married people in a poly relationship? Or married people cheating on each other? They're all monogamous to you, just because there's a sheet of paper involved?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/16 06:18 PM
1	CMV: Having a series of 1-2 month relationships is not serial monogamy, most women aren't serial monogamists That doesn't cover every case though. What about people in long-term, committed, polyamorous relationships? Or would you say that's exclusive because it excludes everyone not in the polycule?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/16 06:17 PM
7	CMV: Having a series of 1-2 month relationships is not serial monogamy, most women aren't serial monogamists This whole thread to me, based on the question is a semantics debate. I think the personal opinion about marriage comes into play here. I believe that two people can be unmarried and monogamous long-term, and be more strictly monogamous than a married couple. But in the majority of cases, married couples certainly at least intend to be more strictly monogamous than an unmarried couple would be.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/16 06:14 PM
1	CMV: Having a series of 1-2 month relationships is not serial monogamy, most women aren't serial monogamists Since I'm being pedantic as hell in this thread anyways, I assume fiancee and girlfriend are different to you, too?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/16 06:12 PM
2	CMV: Having a series of 1-2 month relationships is not serial monogamy, most women aren't serial monogamists I agree with every single thing in this comment other than addition, to me a string of those indicates a woman that maybe can't make up her mind, or perhaps is overly picky on things. Or any other number of things I'd like to be aware of. I have friends who've made up their minds to never be in a long-term committed monogamous relationship. And as long as she's honest with her partners about that up front, that's totally acceptable to me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/16 06:10 PM
2	CMV: Having a series of 1-2 month relationships is not serial monogamy, most women aren't serial monogamists I agree with her categorization there. You need more info to decide if she is a 'slut' or not aside from 'serially monogamous'. There's not enough information in that phrase alone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/16 06:07 PM
3	CMV: Having a series of 1-2 month relationships is not serial monogamy, most women aren't serial monogamists I mean, it can, but it usually doesn't since we also apply it to animals that don't marry and unmarried humans. mo·nog·a·my məˈnäɡəmē/ noun noun: monogamy the practice or state of being married to one person at a time. the practice or state of having a sexual relationship with only one partner. ZOOLOGY the habit of having only one mate at a time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/16 06:05 PM
2	CMV: Having a series of 1-2 month relationships is not serial monogamy, most women aren't serial monogamists I'm kind of a prescriptivist when it comes to definitions. A 'person of color' to me is anyone non-white. They may all be oppressed in some places, they may belong to the oppressing class in others. It's not a good phrase to throw around without other qualifiers, because it doesn't have a strict enough definition. The connotation will vary with context. Just like monogamist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/16 06:02 PM
4	CMV: Having a series of 1-2 month relationships is not serial monogamy, most women aren't serial monogamists No, that requires an adjective: lifetime monogamy. Because monogamy is defined as 'having only one concurrent sexual relationship'	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/16 06:00 PM
10	CMV: Having a series of 1-2 month relationships is not serial monogamy, most women aren't serial monogamists But that's also monogamy in its strictest sense, since it only has the one criteria: having only one sexual relationship at a time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/16 05:58 PM
4	CMV: Having a series of 1-2 month relationships is not serial monogamy, most women aren't serial monogamists They're both monogamous. One is long-term, one is short-term. You and I have a relationship right now. It's strangers-over-the-internet-discussing-human-sexuality, and it's so far very-short-term but you can't just redefine relationship to mean what you want it to. monogamy: having sex exclusively with one partner relationship: the way two people are connected to each other serial, short-term, long-term, long-distance, etc are all adjectives that modify those. They're needed because those words …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/16 05:56 PM
2	CMV: Having a series of 1-2 month relationships is not serial monogamy, most women aren't serial monogamists I'd divide into three: casual sex, monogamy, and polyamory if we're basing it exclusively on number of concurrent partners. And yes, it inaccurately describes human dating behavior because it's only about one facet: number of partners. The short, non-invested relationships are different from long-term committed relationships, but that doesn't mean they're not all 'serially monogamous'. I feel like you think 'serially' has some association with 'serious' when it just means 'in a row.' If someone …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/16 05:52 PM
3	CMV: Having a series of 1-2 month relationships is not serial monogamy, most women aren't serial monogamists No, they're not identical. Just like how a relationship where the eat tacos exclusively on tuesday is different than one where they eat tacos exclusively on wednesday. But they could all be serially monogamous. Because that's only referring to one very specific aspect of the relationship. edit: deleted an unnecessarily assholish line.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/16 05:41 PM
2	CMV: Having a series of 1-2 month relationships is not serial monogamy, most women aren't serial monogamists Again, that has nothing to do with monogamy in any way, shape, or form. That's like saying that people who eat tacos on wednesday aren't monogamous.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/16 05:34 PM
3	CMV: Having a series of 1-2 month relationships is not serial monogamy, most women aren't serial monogamists Unless they're actively having another sexual relationship concurrently, it's a monogamous relationship. Whether that relationship is 'friends with benefits' or 'just a fling' or 'serious, committed, long term' is a different label specifying a different part of the relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/16 05:31 PM
5	Q4everyone: why do you think Millenials aren't getting married? Millenial here. Myself and most of my friends are married... is there actual statistics to back up this claim?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/16 10:56 PM
8	Q4BP: What measure of promiscuity/sluthood/high N renders a woman unsuitable for a relationship/marriage? Is there ANY amount of promiscuity that makes a woman unsuitable for marriage? I don't care about n-count at all. As long as we're compatible enough to be mutually satisfied with each other and both STD free, whatever works.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/16 01:42 PM
4	Q4BP: What measure of promiscuity/sluthood/high N renders a woman unsuitable for a relationship/marriage? Is there ANY amount of promiscuity that makes a woman unsuitable for marriage? You're right,I didn't commit to the women I lived with for years monogamously. /s You asked for opinions about what n-count affects relationships. I answered that question.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/16 01:39 PM
4	Q4BP: What measure of promiscuity/sluthood/high N renders a woman unsuitable for a relationship/marriage? Is there ANY amount of promiscuity that makes a woman unsuitable for marriage? Except she wasn't the only woman I've been with or considered marrying.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/16 01:33 PM
7	Q4BP: What measure of promiscuity/sluthood/high N renders a woman unsuitable for a relationship/marriage? Is there ANY amount of promiscuity that makes a woman unsuitable for marriage? I don't care about n-count at all. As long as we're compatible enough to be mutually satisfied with each other and both STD free, whatever works. FWIW, I'm still the only guy my wife has ever even kissed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/16 01:23 PM
1	Q4M:You are given a device that tells you exactly how many men a woman has slept with, and full details about each of these men. How would you use it and what would you do with it? N count doesn't matter to me at all. I could see it being useful if it listed her prefered acts/kinks though. It'd make it real easy to match up with similarly minded women. Knowing exactly what they usually like would certainly improve my own prowess.It'd also be especially useful if it also showed STD status, that's always my primary concern (especially since many don't know their status 100% accurately). Since I'm human and interested in profiteering, I'd probably start a dating company that …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/16 07:00 AM
2	[CMV] Avoid online dating if you want to meet the love of your life I know personal anecdotes aren't really data, but I dated 20ish women at least somewhat seriously before I met my wife, so IRL success for me is ~5%. 23% beats that way out of the water.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/16 11:54 PM
2	CMV: The rape and sexual assault issue in America is a by product of an uncontrolled drinking and partying culture in college campuses Then why is a drunk woman not responsible for her sexual decisions? Why is a drunk woman expected to have agency for every decision she makes EXCEPT having sex? Why are men expected to be caretakers for a drunk woman? I don't think this, and most people I know don't either. If she chooses to have sex while drunk, and he is equally as drunk, neither of them have the capacity to consent. If he isn't drunk to the point of impairment, he raped her. Same in the reverse.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/16 05:25 PM
2	A hypothetical for TBP California.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/16 05:10 AM
3	A hypothetical for TBP Never. I got mugged once, but he was the one who ended up in the hospital and he paid full restitution. I'm not dumb, I don't victim blame. I think those two are related.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/16 04:31 AM
3	A hypothetical for TBP Because we live in a society of laws and the onus is on people to not break laws? Same reason most people around here don't lock their cars or front doors.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/16 11:34 PM
1	A hypothetical for TBP Yeah, he edited. Sometimes this sub brings out the worst. Sometimes expecting the worst brings out my... not best.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/16 10:06 PM
1	A hypothetical for TBP I really wish BPers and others would stop trying to falsely portray it this way. No one that I've seen here has ever excused the behavior of rapists. I also think it's important to differentiate between different degrees of rape, since I've heard of some rape incidents which were quite horrible, violent, and gruesome. Then there are other rape cases which might be a matter of someone passed out on a couch at a party where there is a lot of drinking, where the victim may not suffer any significan…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/16 10:03 PM
1	A hypothetical for TBP Yeah, that's acceleration/deceleration type stuff. To see if you're speeding/slamming on your brakes. I can't imagine any of them come with a gps device, too, do they? Why would anyone consent to that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/16 10:00 PM
1	A hypothetical for TBP No one is arguing that the crime is fully the responsibility of the criminal. I absolutely am. The crime is fully the responsibility of the criminal, 100% of the time. If the owner does not believe he is at all responsible, then he would be inclined to leave the door open again. And he may continue to be burglarized and continue to leave his door open. And the next burglary would be 100% the fault of the next burglar. Still not the resident. Stores keep their doors open and unlocked all the time…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/16 09:58 PM
1	A hypothetical for TBP They were victimized because a bad person happened to choose to. They're not directly or indirectly responsible for being raped.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/16 09:55 PM
2	A hypothetical for TBP Like I said, I know that now. I didn't know the crime was going to happen before. Blaming me now because I could have prevented something I didn't yet know about is exactly the same way a lot of people treat rape victims. They didn't know the crime was going to happen. They're not responsible for it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/16 09:29 PM
2	A hypothetical for TBP But I did I do everything I could to mitigate my risk? No. Correct, but that doesn't make you guilty of anything. There are things I could have done that would have stopped 9/11, but I only know that in hindsight. I obviously didn't know it was going to happen. Doesn't mean it's my fault.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/16 09:05 PM
2	A hypothetical for TBP You underestimate the amount of work that goes into figuring out a premium. But regardless, we're discussing blame. If the car is stolen, only one person committed that crime:the thief.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/16 08:06 PM
3	A hypothetical for TBP I bet your car insurance company would LOVE to know you regularly put your expensive car at risk. That's already baked into the higher premium you're paying.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/16 07:59 PM
10	A hypothetical for TBP 1) if this happened and someone told you about it would you recommend they do anything different in the future? Yeah, if you're going to plan to get too drunk to drive, take an Uber to the bar instead. Otherwise you're paying gas 2 ways and uber 2 ways. 2) would you say I was at least partly responsible for my car being stolen? No. And your insurance company (who actually has a vested financial interest in putting blame on you) would agree with me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/16 07:51 PM
3	Not All Incels Are Like That C6+ I don't consider 'celibate'. C5 is not 'involuntary'. C4 isn't well described. If both C5 and C4 are 5+ years without sex, I'm assuming C4 is someone who has been actively seeking sex: on dating sites, going out to bars/meetups/blind dates and just failing every step of the way? Then I'd call that incel.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/16 04:46 PM
3	Any theories why men contemplate suicides post breakup? Is there data showing this is common at all? I've had breakups ranging from friendships ending with casual hookups all the way up to we-were-talking-about-marriage-and-lived-together-for-years and never contemplated suicide. None of my guy friends had ever mentioned feeling that way to me, either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/16 05:26 AM
5	CMV - STEM Careers are for Betas and Omegas People who go to culinary school become chefs. People who work as line cooks become older line cooks.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/16 10:54 PM
2	CMV - STEM Careers are for Betas and Omegas The only people I've ever heard refer to restaurants as 'the industry' are line cook types. 'the industry' refers to tv/movies/porn to the vast majority of the population.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/16 10:50 PM
1	Which Meyer's Brigg personality type has the most sexual partners? Doubly so for this kind of internet test. An 'actual' test involves several types of tests done only in person.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/16 08:15 PM
1	Why I don't agree with the premise that Feminism equates to simply a belief in equality between men and women. Except that I explicitly told you that I was fighting for those?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/16 08:12 PM
1	Why I don't agree with the premise that Feminism equates to simply a belief in equality between men and women. It sounds like you have a definition of feminism that differs from the dictionary and all the feminists I know, so there's nothing that will change your mind. Add my name to the pile of feminists who are fighting for all those things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/16 07:45 PM
1	Why I don't agree with the premise that Feminism equates to simply a belief in equality between men and women. I literally listed several feminist issues above. Here's an article about the paternity leave for instance: http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/7762108 And many feminist groups have actively fought for increasing women's options in the military, just recently we won the draft equality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/16 06:35 PM
1	Why I don't agree with the premise that Feminism equates to simply a belief in equality between men and women. Because it was founded when women didn't have property rights or voting rights, they primarily focused on advancing women, yes. But equality feminism is the original and probably the most popular form. And started in the late 1700's. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equality_feminism	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/16 02:45 AM
1	Why I don't agree with the premise that Feminism equates to simply a belief in equality between men and women. I linked the study that concluded 3-7% in another recent comment if you want to look it over. And yeah, the original definition of feminism is advocating for the equality of the sexes. And many, many feminists still identify with that definition. We're not all 2nd or 3rd wavers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/16 11:48 PM
1	Why I don't agree with the premise that Feminism equates to simply a belief in equality between men and women. But the first four wouldn't benefit women at all. While I disagree, especially about the equal paternity leave, so what if they don't? I consider myself a traditional feminist, whose goal is egalitarianism. If it brings the genders closer to equality, it's a goal. And the last isn't really an issue. The most thorough sturdiest show a gender pay gap of 3-7%. That's not huge, but I know that if I received a 3-7% pay decrease, it'd suck.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/16 03:47 PM
3	Why I don't agree with the premise that Feminism equates to simply a belief in equality between men and women. No, this one basically took all the data from the other studies and corrected for a lot of overlooked variables. My phone also auto corrected Consad. Here's a quick summary: >Just before Obama took office in 2009, the Department of Labor released a study because, as a deputy assistant secretary explained it, "The raw wage gap continues to be used in misleading ways to advance public policy agendas without fully explaining the reasons behind the gap." The study by CONSAD Research Corp. took into …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/16 04:57 AM
3	Why I don't agree with the premise that Feminism equates to simply a belief in equality between men and women. Check out the Conrad study. It accounted for all those. Still ended up with a 4-7% difference. It's not a huge difference. That's why it's last on the list.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/16 04:38 AM
2	Why I don't agree with the premise that Feminism equates to simply a belief in equality between men and women. Agreed. I consider myself the traditional type of feminist, and I think our focuses, in order of high to low priority, should be: Equal treatment of rape, equal punishment for criminal offenses, equal parental leave, equal pay.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/16 11:59 PM
3	How come more women aren't into "polyamory"? Neglecting your emotional needs, since that would definitely preclude a poly relationship, the scheduling actually works out better from the ones I've seen. Your primary is too busy with work, and you won't be able to see him this week? Go out on a date with your boyfriend.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/08/16 04:12 PM
2	How come more women aren't into "polyamory"? polyamory is not the same as a harem though. A harem implies one man with several women. Polyamory implies that it's open from both sides of the relationship. She may have many boyfriends, he may have a few girlfriends.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/08/16 04:09 PM
1	CMV: If TRP was really against shaming male sexuality they would not use "Cuck" as an insult. using it as slang for men who are being cheated on That's not really slang. Cuckold is an anthropological term for a male who involuntarily giving their own resources while their partner is reproducing with other males. Using it in the cheating context just extends it a little bit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/08/16 03:36 AM
0	Would you date a man whom you are significantly stronger and/or more intelligent than? Parsing* He's also the speller, huh ;)	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/16 05:18 AM
3	Why do non-incels feel the need to comment on the lives incels when they don't share the same experiences? I worked full time to put myself through college. Graduated in 4.5 years with $3k in student loans. Many people can go to sex-and-party camp without mommy and daddy paying.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/16 12:53 AM
10	Why do non-incels feel the need to comment on the lives incels when they don't share the same experiences? I've avoided chiming in because I felt that my contribution would be considered similar to those two. I was an overweight, unpopular, socially awkward kid. It only took a little effort on my part to be successful sexually in high school. All I had to do was work out some (was still overweight, but I got to the 'strong fat' level) and stop acting so socially inept. I saw plenty of goofy, awkward, loser types get plenty of attention from women when they realized the same thing in college. Because …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/16 10:17 PM
1	Why is it okay for a woman in a relationship to cheat? I think I missed that one	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/16 07:41 PM
5	Are there any Christians who are Red Pillers? No, most of the bible talks about how people should treat each other. There's really only one book that 'opposes' evolution, and most Christians think that it's metaphorical. Jesus' teachings are very often given through parables, so the entire framework of the new testament is based on interpreting metaphor, there's no reason the old testament shouldn't also be. Source: I'm a Christian who has a minor in evolutionary anthropology	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/16 04:19 PM
5	Deceptiveness as Sexual Strategy: Yes or No? No, it is not moral. Lying to people for your own personal gain is not moral And 'rape by deception' type laws exist in a good number of jurisdictions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/16 06:15 PM
1	Man is tricked in to raising another man's kid. When it's revealed he loses custody because he isn't the father but the child support he paid will not be returned But under current laws he has no rights. And that's some bullshit that needs to change. Are feminists outraged by this inequality? Every feminist I know in person would be, and I'm among them, yes. I'm guessing you're a woman? I'm guessing you're mobile? My flair says 'purple pill man' Why then do feminists seek to outlaw paternity testing? I don't know anyone who does. Like I said, as a feminist: hey should be freely available (access wise, not cost wise) to the parents on record if either of t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/16 05:38 PM
1	Man is tricked in to raising another man's kid. When it's revealed he loses custody because he isn't the father but the child support he paid will not be returned I think he should be able to have shared custody of the child he loves and raised for the past 5 years, Yeah, i said that elsewhere in the thread, too but if he wants to continue acting as the father that should involve paying child support. didn't think of that, but yeah, makes sense. Just like an adoption.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/16 08:03 PM
0	Man is tricked in to raising another man's kid. When it's revealed he loses custody because he isn't the father but the child support he paid will not be returned I consider myself a purple-pill feminist (though I'm male). I think this is a case where feminists should really be on his side. If we believe in equal rights for both genders, and he doesn't have the right to know if the child he's raising is his (whereas the mother obviously does), there's an inequality there that needs to be rectified. If he chooses to find out the paternity, he should be given the option to leave if he chooses. The care of the child should be a primary factor in decisions he…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/16 05:32 PM
0	Man is tricked in to raising another man's kid. When it's revealed he loses custody because he isn't the father but the child support he paid will not be returned You don't pay alimony to children, you pay child support to them. He should not have to pay for this child's support, and she should have to pay him back for what he has paid in. Obligatory DNA tests are a waste of time, money, and resources. But they should be freely available (access wise, not cost wise) to the parents on record if either of them want one. -feminist out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/16 05:17 PM
2	Man is tricked in to raising another man's kid. When it's revealed he loses custody because he isn't the father but the child support he paid will not be returned I consider myself a purple-pill, traditional (genders should be equal) feminist. I have a lot more than feigned indignation. She should owe restitution to the man she claimed was the father this entire time. Every dollar he spent because he thought the child was his. He (and the actual biological father) should both be offered as much custody/visitation as they want (while keeping the kid's best interests and desires in mind). I'm torn on sending her to jail, cause then she can't work to pay bac…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/16 05:11 PM
2	Is the following example rape or sexual assault in your opinion? I identify as a 'traditional feminist' meaning, we should put effort to getting both genders equality. No one I know would think that "one or two drinks" as per the OP, especially with time to get to his place and make out a bit would be sexual assault. You're falling into a strawman with this one.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/16 04:20 PM
2	Is the following example rape or sexual assault in your opinion? Again, literally all the feminists/bluepillers responding said "no, not rape". Why can't pills ever agree on anything in this sub without someone later claiming the opposite?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/16 04:16 PM
2	Is the following example rape or sexual assault in your opinion? I agree. A few more drinks each and we may hit a grey area, but this is clear cut not assault unless there's info left out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/16 10:17 PM
1	BluePillers, do you really think it's fair to forbid men to ask for a paternity test? Yes, an article called "the feminist case for paternity leave", where a feminist author explains why more paternity leave is a feminist cause, doesn't "say feminists are fighting for paternity leave". Except, you know, the article as a whole. Nevermind the fact that feminists didn't want maternity leave in the first place, since it detracted from their gains in equality in the work place.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/16 08:38 PM
1	BluePillers, do you really think it's fair to forbid men to ask for a paternity test? K, either you're trolling, or your reading comprehension is lacking. I'll continue the convo if you re-read and try again, otherwise I'm writing off this circle.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/16 04:11 PM
1	BluePillers, do you really think it's fair to forbid men to ask for a paternity test? That's really the only argument I need. Clearly, since facts are totally irrelevant to you. I just showed you how long feminism has been fighting for literally every counterpoint you had, and still are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/16 04:00 PM
1	BluePillers, do you really think it's fair to forbid men to ask for a paternity test? They get less jail time for the same crimes (in no hurry to change that) That stems from one of feminism's biggest focuses. Feminism has been indirectly focusing on it since it started. From an editorial on ifeminists.com, the most feminist site I could find, adressing this topic 14 years ago: In a 1991 NCFM report titled "Gender and Injustice," researchers John Ryan and Ian Wilson suggest the problem stems from stereotypes about women being more innocent, more reformable and less dangerous than…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/16 03:32 PM
2	BluePillers, do you really think it's fair to forbid men to ask for a paternity test? Notice how much like women, feminism will never involve women taking responsibility or giving anything up. Ever. Well, for one, feminists were against maternity leave in general when it was first proposed since it would have made them unequal in the workforce. For two, in the dozens of girls I've dated, I wouldn't describe any of them as unwilling to take responsibility or give anything up. You're dating the wrong type of girl.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/16 03:09 PM
1	BluePillers, do you really think it's fair to forbid men to ask for a paternity test? You cannot know who donated the organ. That's not true. When I donated bone marrow, both the recipient and I were both asked if we wanted the other to have our info. If either said no, we'd both get a letter saying "one or both of you said no, so neither of you got the info".	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/16 02:52 PM
3	BluePillers, do you really think it's fair to forbid men to ask for a paternity test? Every self-identified feminist in this thread has agreed that this law is stupid.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/16 02:50 PM
3	BluePillers, do you really think it's fair to forbid men to ask for a paternity test? Instead of just throwing around a cliche, why not include something that helps your point like this article, which took one search for 'how feminism helps men' or this article from time about the feminist fight for paternity leave.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/16 02:49 PM
2	BluePillers, do you really think it's fair to forbid men to ask for a paternity test? Feminists are fighting for paternity leave to be equal to maternity leave, fyi.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/16 02:44 PM
3	BluePillers, do you really think it's fair to forbid men to ask for a paternity test? Feminists are fighting for paternity leave to be equal to maternity leave, fyi. I think there's a little too much money and push for 'girls in STEM', but I do see that they're trying to make up for years of 'no, no, math and science are boy majors' engrained in the culture.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/16 02:40 PM
1	BluePillers, do you really think it's fair to forbid men to ask for a paternity test? Playing devil's advocate here, they may require "one parent to consent" to most of those situations, but since the paternity test is a case where a man is kinda for the father, he can't be a neutral representative for the child, so the other parent has to consent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/16 02:37 PM
1	BluePillers, do you really think it's fair to forbid men to ask for a paternity test? Did you reply to the wrong post, because it looks to me that you're totally agreeing with the comment you replied to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/16 02:33 PM
5	BluePillers, do you really think it's fair to forbid men to ask for a paternity test? I think everyone who identifies as 'feminist' so far has disagreed with this policy, so I believe that person may be the exception, not the rule. Why can't we ever embrace the issues that red and blue agree on instead of trying to force the other side to be on the opposite of every dilemma?	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/16 02:30 PM
1	BluePillers, do you really think it's fair to forbid men to ask for a paternity test? That's just using 'equal' to mean 'equal outcomes' and not 'equal opportunity' though, so it says the same thing I did.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/16 02:25 PM
1	BluePillers, do you really think it's fair to forbid men to ask for a paternity test? There really isn't one. Equality doesn't mean equal outcomes. It means equal chance to have those outcomes with the same work.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/16 04:45 AM
1	BluePillers, do you really think it's fair to forbid men to ask for a paternity test? That's why I covered both sides in my comment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/16 12:31 AM
2	BluePillers, do you really think it's fair to forbid men to ask for a paternity test? I consider myself an 'old school feminist'- as in, the point is actual equality between genders. I don't think it's ok to force a paternity test on a man if he's unwilling, without a court order. I do think it should be easy to access a paternity test since it's totally not invasive. I see no reason a court would ever have to be involved.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/16 12:17 AM
3	CMV: The RP tenets of de-pedastalizing women and outcome independence are not misogynistic, but are actually beneficial to women. Honestly, I'm parroting the redpill's extreme's views of the bp on that one. I've never first hand seen it, no.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/16 06:25 PM
7	CMV: The RP tenets of de-pedastalizing women and outcome independence are not misogynistic, but are actually beneficial to women. to me "don't put the pussy on a pedastal." and "don't objectify women" Always came across as two sides of the same coin. I call myself purple because a lot of RP ideologies come across this way to me: I think we should, as a society, stop slut-shaming and become more (safely) sex positive. This will likely result in more women approaching men, and more (mutually accepted) sexual liaisons with less emotional risk and effort from both genders. But there's extremes to both sides: RPs who think that…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/16 04:38 PM
1	Q4BP: would you date a transsexual? That's the manliest cupcake tattoo I'll ever see in my life probably. edit: Your comment reminded me of this user's post from ~6 months ago, which I think fits this question fairly well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/16 04:13 PM
1	Q4BP: would you date a transsexual? pansexual Anything that moves and is human.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/16 04:12 PM
4	Q4BP: would you date a transsexual? All Pansexual people date trans women Since I agreed with you elsewhere, I feel like I should clarify that this should read All Pansexual people would be willing to date trans women	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/16 04:11 PM
0	Q4BP: would you date a transsexual? I agree with /u/BluePiller1776. To be blunt, from how I've heard it used, pan means you don't care about plumbing or identification. I'm also with the other user where I wouldn't really care what they had when they were born, but I'm not aroused by penises, so they'd have to be post op m2f for me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/16 04:09 PM
3	Q4 married / divorced men of this sub how accurate is this post in describing marriage ? I'm not a shrink by any means, but my first instinct is that this guy's seen/been abused to fear women that badly. I dated my fair share of dramaqueens/rageaholics in my time, but this list of expectations is the farthest extreme of all the negative qualities any of them had. You'd have to be an idiot to marry someone who treated you like this. Regardless, no I haven't experienced any of that in my 5 years of marriage. Countering a few issues I see: A wedding is not for the bride, anyone who thi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/16 03:06 PM
3	Feminists, if the Men's Rights Movement is toxic, how would you suggest men's issues get resolved? Well yeah. It was founded before women had the right to vote so of course it started with concentrating on women's rights. The end goal has always been equality though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/16 11:24 PM
3	Feminists, if the Men's Rights Movement is toxic, how would you suggest men's issues get resolved? It's literally in your quote. "On the equality of the sexes"	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/16 10:59 PM
-1	Feminists, if the Men's Rights Movement is toxic, how would you suggest men's issues get resolved? Feminism, by definition is about equality. Issues like non-equal divorce settlements, child custody agreements, etc are actually an issue many feminists do fight for.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/16 10:22 PM
1	CMV: Many RP ideas, such as hypergamy, are greatly exacerbated by college greek life and fraternities. I'm a guy who went to UCD	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/02/16 09:33 PM
1	CMV: Many RP ideas, such as hypergamy, are greatly exacerbated by college greek life and fraternities. Neither of your points were true at any fraternity party I ever went to. And I was Greek. Where'd you go to college?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/02/16 05:29 AM
4	How would you want a woman to tell you about her N? Answer 3 is the most honest without boring me. In my partners the only answer I care about is "here's my clean STD panel". I don't really care about a partner count. I care more to know if she knows what she wants/is doing and her experience/comfort level. Though I happened to be my wife's first kiss and everything else.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/16 04:57 PM
2	This is what feminism is and has always been, right back to the birth of the suffrage movement Don't get me wrong, I wasn't saying it wasn't a feminist goal. It is a goal of most feminists I know, but they're not the tumblr everything-is-rape kind that seems to have lost sight of what you posted.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/16 11:07 PM
1	This is what feminism is and has always been, right back to the birth of the suffrage movement There are some feminists who would really benefit from reading this. A lot of the new wave has lost sight of the goals of feminism, and it's part of the reason a lot of people refuse to identify as a feminist anymore. For instance, i think that custody and restitution after divorce is woefully outdated and is still based on "men work, women homemake" and should be a real goal for feminists to fix.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/16 09:55 PM
1	Are feminists saving or ruining sex? There were plenty of self identified feminists in my fraternity. They weren't just this crazy new-wave feminist type you're talking about. Saying "all feminists operate this way" is just as wrong as "all frat boys are rapists".	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/16 09:42 PM
4	Q4RP: What do you think would happen if women initiated more? Feminists refer to this as being 'sex positive'. More common terms 'slut, whore, etc' are seen as "demeaning", so they're rejected. But they're basically the same in practice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/15 07:27 PM
5	Q4RP: What do you think would happen if women initiated more? I think unattractive people would end up finding each other more often. As more attractive women approach the more attractive men, sheer supply and demand would kick in and suddenly the middle-of-the-road attractiveness is the most attractive in the room. So on and so forth.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/15 07:24 PM
3	Q4RP: What do you think would happen if women initiated more? This is one of the few things I think most RPs and BPs agree on. It'd be easier (and thus better) for both genders.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/15 07:16 PM
11	is drunk sex about to become socially taboo therefore making incelity a widespread phenomenon? I think the 'anti drunk sex' thing is blown up on reddit. In real life, even the more hippie/bluepill types back up the idea that drunk is fine, so long as they're both kinda equally drunk, and so long as neither of them are slurring-words-couldn't-walk kind of out of it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/15 07:12 PM