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I have to ask. Why are you arguing with me if you can admit to yourself that you need to do your homework? Do you think perhaps the arguing is best left up to MRA well-versed in their policy and a bit better at having reasonable discussions? I'm just sayin.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 12:09 AM
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I see what you're saying, but just to clarify boys are culturally considered to be consenting at all ages (more or less) and the law simply overlooks it because apparently statutory rape only happens to girls...??? (obviously untrue) But I mean the legal age of consent, which I'm pretty sure is 16 most places. And a 16 year old boy would not make that decision lightly lol
/r/MensRights27/11/12 12:07 AM
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Not reading materials you use to provide support for a point you are trying to make, using outdated statistics, and making statements that are clearly false (or only perhaps somewhat true in your own personal experiences) is a really good way to make yourself look like you have no idea what you're talking about. You kind of seem like you are just really, really angry with women as individuals. I didn't know that's what the men's rights movement was about. I guess I was misled to think it was abo…
/r/MensRights27/11/12 12:01 AM
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Yes, that's right. I was only talking about non-Jewish parents who choose to circumcise; should have been more clear. That's my bad. Edit: I feel like if anybody should be allowed to be circumcised it should be Jewish boys of a consenting age choosing to do so for religious reasons.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 11:57 PM
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Alimony is only awarded in 15% of divorce cases. Also note that judges decide on whether or not/how much alimony is awarded and one of the factors influencing their decision are "the reasons for the dissolution of the marriage." http://www.equalityinmarriage.org/wdali.html Where does that 98% statistic come from and what year?
/r/MensRights26/11/12 11:53 PM
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You know that isn't why they circumcise babies right? As I mentioned above, it is for "cleanliness" which is a bullshit excuse too but it is not for aesthetic purposes.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 11:49 PM
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The study is called "Becoming a Gendered Body: Practices of Preschools" by Karin A. Martin. I should have been more specific, the type of discipline I was referring to is just scolding. Boys are typically encouraged to "be boys" while girls are told to be quiet and sit down multiple times. Since all this happens in preschool, boys do have trouble with discipline later because they were socialized at younger ages to misbehave. Girls had their behavior managed during childhood and therefore are ty…
/r/MensRights26/11/12 11:47 PM
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You have such a low opinion of all females. A majority of men and women marry each other with good intentions. I mean, vaginamoney? Seriously? Nevermind, I can't respect anything you say after that. And meanwhile I was under the impression this was a legitimate conversation.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 11:41 PM
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Maybe the teachers expect more from boys so they grade harsher? Or they just don't like their male studies? It states in the article that boys don't try as hard with female teachers, do the teachers somehow know that and are offended? I wish they had an explanation of how/why this is the case! So interestinggggg
/r/MensRights26/11/12 11:02 PM
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Where does it say that Bruni isn't a real woman? I didn't find it in the article at all. It's sort of a misleading post name but whatev, good discussion nevertheless.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 10:57 PM
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YEA and black people don't owe shit to abolitionists! FUCK HISTORY
/r/MensRights26/11/12 10:56 PM
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xLadyVirgil didn't say it what kind of disadvantage it was but I think she means both in that a woman is at a physical disadvantage and therefore can't participate in that type of labor but also at a cultural one because she is working class and that is the type of occupation where working class typically end up.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 10:54 PM
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We're talking about babies here dude.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 10:36 PM
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I took a speed reading class in highschool and got it down to a science writing research papers in college. But you see that the study doesn't really answer my original question. Do you know of any articles showing that mothers exclude their ex-partners from their child(ren)'s lives? Also, can you define what you mean by "exclusion" because I'm afraid maybe we're just talking past each other. Edit: Also, is it not totally hilarious that this article blames women for not engaging in the practice …
/r/MensRights26/11/12 10:36 PM
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Well, that should definitely be legal. It's so important to provide options to parents for the good of the child and the parents' livelihoods.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 10:34 PM
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I guess you didn't read any of the resources because this study isn't based on any information collected after 1997 and most of the studies cited were from long before that. Edit: It also states on page 155 that the researchers did not find enough evidence to support the exploitation theory and further on it explains that the children typically went to mothers because the mother was the primary caregiver during the marriage. Edit2: It also does not appear that this study finds that single mother…
/r/MensRights26/11/12 09:29 PM
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I'm sort of undereducated about this topic; is legal paternal surrender already something that is on the books and legal to do? And if not, can such an arrangement be settled in litigation? Thanks! Edit: Also, is it possible for a women to surrender her maternal rights after giving birth in order for the father to be the primary parent? Under the assumption that she agreed to carry/birth the child first... like a surrogate kind of?
/r/MensRights26/11/12 09:25 PM
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Didn't they outlaw it in New York? That's the right idea. Edit: In England and other parts of Europe only Jewish newborns get circumcised. In America it's all about "cleanliness", what a false obsession. Teach your son how to clean his penis and leave it in one piece. I hate that things like this still happen.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 09:14 PM
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Jesus how is circumcision even still around!? So archaic.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 08:38 PM
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You are just saying all these things that you can't back up. Feminists do believe in female privilege and white privilege. But female privilege is not something that is institutionally helpful (ref. the number of females in congress and the number of female CEOs and COOs vs. men). Female privilege consists of things like getting to sit on the bus or getting free drinks; but of course that privilege is only afforded to females if they are conventionally attractive by patriarchal standards. I thin…
/r/MensRights26/11/12 08:23 PM
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Well, I believe (notice: believe) patriarchy is a real thing. And I don't blame individual men for the existence of patriarchy hahaha that's pretty ridiculous. It's an institution that we were all born into and it culturally defines the restrictive general roles that both movements stem from. I think the only disagreement here is that the MRA doesn't believe in male privilege (which is the direct result and overarching effect of patriarchy). I don't believe it would be fruitful for us to discuss…
/r/MensRights26/11/12 08:15 PM
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If a woman lies, and there is evidence that proves she is lying then YES she should be punished. She lied to the police and it's even worse if she lied in court. Lying under oath is against the law. I don't really understand why this is an issue. My own fear would be that a woman would become fearful or ashamed or coerced and recants her story and ends up wrongly imprisoned, this is a similar concern to how I don't want men who are falsely accused of rape going to jail. No innocent people belong…
/r/MensRights26/11/12 08:11 PM
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Okay first of all, where did I say that to equalize genders you must discriminate? Discriminate against who for what? Also, feminists also want to be treated like humans. All individuals should be treated as individuals. That is a belief supported by the MRA and feminism. As I've said before, I don't know why there is so much hatred between the feminist movement and MRM. It appears we are asking for the same things. In my personal experience, the MRA do not like to have open dialogue with femini…
/r/MensRights26/11/12 08:06 PM
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I didn't though. I stated a statistic about the number of women being raped, I never said that men weren't victims of sexual violence, I just didn't mention the statistics on men. I only mentioned the statistics about women because when you said "cry rape" you used it only in reference to women. You apparently think that men who are victims of rape are completely comfortable with the term "crying rape". Excuse me for thinking that that term is insensitive to the plight of all victims of sexual v…
/r/MensRights26/11/12 08:00 PM
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So glad we're finally in agreement: don't lie and don't rape. Pretty good philosophies.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 07:54 PM
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I tried to be clear that the reason more women are admitted is because more women are applying. Men cannot be admitted if they don't apply in the first place. Women and minorities receive more scholarships than men because the university system has not been open to them as long as it had been to white men, this is essentially a concept to try to equalize the historical score per se. I am not saying that I support this concept, but that is the correct explanation for it. I think scholarships shou…
/r/MensRights26/11/12 07:51 PM
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If you read my other comments you'd see that I don't think that men should be forced into being fathers, if he waives all his parental rights I don't think he should be held financially responsible.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 07:42 PM
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And here the CDC reports that 49% of all pregnancies are unintended, that accounts for nearly half of all pregnancies. Assuming at least 10% (and it's probably more than that but just for the sake of argument) of planned pregnancies are consensually planned between both partners that still supports my previous statement that the majority of pregnancies are not the result of women tricking men into fertilization or from stealing their sperm. http://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/unintendedpregnan…
/r/MensRights26/11/12 07:41 PM
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In no way did I even insinuate that men did not experience crimes of sexual violence. I'd assume that men would be sensitive to this term "crying rape" as well had they experienced such an emotionally and physically traumatic event. That term should be offensive to all victims of rape regardless of gender.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 07:38 PM
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Can you provide some data supporting the assertion that single mothers are single mothers because they "exclude" the father from their lives?
/r/MensRights26/11/12 07:37 PM
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Also just a side note: please don't say things like "cry rape" because it's really offensive and a trigger for women who have been raped. Let's recall that 1 out of every 4 women have experienced rape or attempted rape (or some other form of sexual violence). That means your girlfriend, your sister, your mom, your daughter, your grandma. Have some respect okay?
/r/MensRights26/11/12 03:27 PM
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I think it's offensive that you believe men are treated as "wallets". Men are people, women are people. That may be the way that culture defines manhood but that is a cultural problem that feminism and MRM have similar stances on. Short men's opinions are still valued more than a woman's (I'm sorry, that's just true and I know we've all seen that in our own lives). I do not believe women should be treated differently than men in the legal system. I believe in equality across the board. And yes, …
/r/MensRights26/11/12 03:18 PM
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This discussion has happened a million times: if a woman chooses to have a child without an agreement with the child's father, he should be able to opt out of parental rights in order to not pay child support. That seems fair to me. But if he wants to be active in the life of his child then he should be expected to help financially support that child.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 03:10 PM
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Oh I see, you're right I was being unclear. I simply didn't like the original comment that people must "put up with" single mothers. We must also then "put up with" single fathers. I think we need to be more respectful of parenting in general and try to not be accusatory towards either party. A child is a dual-parent responsibility for the good of that child and I found it offensive to try to diminish all the hard work and good intentions that go into raising a child at all.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 03:07 PM
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I think we'd both be kidding ourselves if we asserted that a majority of pregnancies are results of women tricking men into impregnating them. A majority of pregnancies (something like 49-51%) are just straight up accidents where the intention to reproduce was not present in either consenting party.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 02:52 PM
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Because female privilege doesn't translate into an institutional headstart. Women don't pay full price for drinks and get doors opened and blah blah blah but a lot of people (other women included) do not treat women as though they have legitimate opinions. If women are "ugly" then all of a sudden whatever they have to say doesn't matter because the culture only gives privilege to females who are conventionally attractive. Female privilege exists but in a much different, more deceitful kind of wa…
/r/MensRights26/11/12 02:48 PM
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I'd still argue that women face more street discrimination. Being asked to "smile" at strangers, cat-calling, physical harassment by strangers, people not leaving you alone, being followed. Women do not only face this in ghettos but in every single public space. I believe that gay people (when it is clear to the public that the person is homosexual) have similar issues. The problem is that this type of discrimination is not limited to one type of area, it is all over the world in every street.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 02:46 PM
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We've had this conversation on so many threads I just don't understand why it remains necessary to say this. Most violence enacted against women is by men. Most violence enacted against men is by men. Nobody is arguing that men do not have violence enacted against them. If anything, I think instead of arguing about who experiences "more" or "worse" violence we should concern ourselves with the type of culture that tells men that being violent is a way to be "masculine" and encourages expressing …
/r/MensRights26/11/12 02:43 PM
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But the article asserts that women are the ones delaying marriage. We're discussing the article, no?
/r/MensRights26/11/12 02:39 PM
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Nobody is saying that your experience isn't real. Only you can know your own experiences, I am only saying that you need to try to imagine what types of harassment and impediments others encounter as well. Nobody's harassment is "worse" or "better" than somebody else's.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 02:37 PM
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That's irrelevant. Ass_hull said single motherhood is the new normal, nothing about divorce rates. I wasn't assuming women were choosing to exclude fathers but he was alluding to it.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 02:36 PM
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It is simply too hard to prove. I was very much working under the assumption that without evidence the case would be considered a false accusation. Nobody wants innocent men going to jail but nobody wants rape victims to be told they weren't raped when they were. Both parties deserve respect and empathy during the investigation.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 02:32 PM
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I think that an International Day for the Elimination of Violence would be better. But I see why they have one for woman and not men. Violence in general is bad.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 02:06 AM
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But this is about the marriage strike...? Does the word "strike" not insinuate that it is the men who care? Why is this even posted in this subreddit?
/r/MensRights26/11/12 01:45 AM
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It is called International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women. International is not limited to Western culture. China does not have an equivalent day for violence against men either. Similarly, I'm sure you would agree that Eastern culture also sees men as expendable because men fight their wars too; Japanese Kamikazes are the most radical manifestation of this. It seems to me that this is not expressly an only-Western idea but also an Eastern one which does render my previous com…
/r/MensRights26/11/12 01:38 AM
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That article did not assert that straight white men never experience street harassment. It is asserting, very correctly, that women, minorities, and LGBTQ individuals experience more harassment. Also, please consider white male privilege may blind you to the discrimination wrought against others.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 01:15 AM
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Yea, men are expendable and that's why people in China throw out their baby girls and keep baby boys. Logic
/r/MensRights26/11/12 01:03 AM
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That's true. Facts. Sorry bout it.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 01:01 AM
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You'll be asked to put up with single moms? You know they can't get pregnant on their own right? That means there must have been a man around that left. How is that the woman's fault?
/r/MensRights26/11/12 12:59 AM
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Who cares if women want to remain unmarried?
/r/MensRights26/11/12 12:58 AM
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Because rape is so hard to prove, especially because it must be immediately reported and if the victim showers after the attack it washes away all evidence. We're talking about all rapes here, not only violent rapes that leave bruises/scars/wounds/vaginal tearing/etc. Statistically speaking, there would be number of true rape accusations that would not have enough evidence to prove a had rape occurred aside from the testimony of the victim. Would that rape then be considered false? If so, then a…
/r/MensRights25/11/12 08:51 PM
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Let us also consider that most spousal homicides (not violence but murder, since "violence" is obviously a very vague term) are perpetrated by husbands against their wives. We should probably just agree killing people is wrong regardless of gender.
/r/MensRights25/11/12 06:41 PM
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Due to all this "women are natural care-givers" and "men are unemotional breadwinners" blah blah bullshit, men are seriously undervalued as fathers. I'm glad this article pointed out that there aren't enough children's books extolling fatherhood.
/r/MensRights15/06/12 09:31 PM
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Sorry, I just wanted to interject that as a feminist, I will NOT be circumcising my child (if it is a male). It's not a feminist goal to deprive either sex of their utmost sexual pleasure and essentially deform their genitals. I think that most of my feminist friends would agree with you as well, I am surprised that the initial reaction was so angry. Go ahead and downvote me for admittedly being a feminist, I know, but I just wanted to throw my support behind this movement. Nobody should be cutt…
/r/MensRights15/06/12 09:28 PM
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There have been studies showing that men's productions of testosterone decrease when they become fathers or after participating in long courtships (presumably the body preparing for fatherhood). "Longitudinal Evidence that Fatherhood Decreases Testosterone in Human Males" - Gettler, McDade, Feranil, Kuzawa
/r/MensRights28/05/12 08:15 PM
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You need to get with the rest of this conversation. Even if NOW does represent those view points they are not representative of all feminists or even a majority of the women in that group. As I went on to discuss with Alanna, while I was involved with NOW my group focused on reproductive justice and we never discussed equal rights for parents so it's possible many members are simply ignorant to the views of NOW on that particular issues. Moreover, there are many people who can politically identi…
/r/MensRights09/04/12 07:11 PM
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Excuse me, why would you date the kind of girl that would steal sperm in the first place? What kind of 21 year old believes they want a baby even though it would most likely fuck up the rest of their life??? Maybe you should find a not-bat-shit-crazy girl who DOESN'T want a baby. What in God's name would have attracted you to her in the first place if you knew she had an obsession with babies? Why didn't you break it off immediately?
/r/MensRights06/04/12 03:14 PM
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Yes definitions of IPV and DV do often overlap but the particular study we were pulling numbers from specifically said that it wasn't including serious forms of battery such as choking or burning. I think the definition of injury probably does not include something like a bruise. It might be more like the definition of "porn" where you can't "define it" you just "know it when you see it." I'm not advocating that type of definition (it's very problematic) but I imagine it's more along those lines…
/r/MensRights05/04/12 08:09 PM
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"I linked it for the numbers. I don't necessarily agree with their commentary which is not supported by their numbers, and the source for which is unclear." But the numbers from that study are not about "domestic violence", they are about "intimate partner violence" (using their definitions) so the numbers were actually somewhat irrelevant. That feminists "propaganda" page got those statistics from Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) so I don't think we can claim they are just pulled out of thin …
/r/MensRights05/04/12 12:05 AM
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Hey I was just quoting the article the you picked to defend your case. If you disagree with the assumptions behind that study than you should find a study that you can actually fully get behind. And I didn't say anything about abusers being all-male so I don't really know why you went on about what we've already agreed is wrong. We agree that violence is wrong and that both men and women can be abusive. As for the other studies you've linked: "National Crime Victimization Survey (Bureau of Justi…
/r/MensRights04/04/12 06:53 PM
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Thanks so much for posting those. I can't help but notice this important disclaimer at the bottom: The survey did not cover the use of knives, guns, choking, or burning, and it was not concerned with the kind of situation that can drive a woman to seek shelter outside the home. The view of the authors is that most intimate partner violence should not be equated with severe battering. Domestic disputes that turn physical because of retaliation and escalation do not have the same causes or the sam…
/r/MensRights04/04/12 12:44 AM
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Being poor is quite a different experience then I guess because I know my parents did the best they could and they sent me off to get a good education and put themselves in loads of debt doing it. Just because that's not your ideal about parenting doesn't make it bad. But that's enough about that. We are agreeing that custody should not go to the mother and that should not be the default though. All I'm saying is that each situation is so individual and unique there is no way to blanketly decide…
/r/MensRights04/04/12 12:37 AM
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I'm having a really hard time because I just feel like you are seeing things in black and white instead of shades of grey. I mentioned I was involved in NOW and father's rights just wasn't discussed, maybe some feminists in that organization are simply unaware of the organization's view on that. And that must be the case because like I've been saying, I don't know anyyyyy feminists personally who would ever claim they are against father's rights. Marketing IUDs to only married women and then mak…
/r/MensRights03/04/12 08:03 PM
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Alright. You will continue to assert that because women's organizations don't support father's rights, feminists don't support father's rights. I can't change your mind, you can't change mine. I think it is possible to support the overall goals and many particular goals of an organization but disagree with one. I agree with your ideas about human issues, but to be honestly, if a woman is raped it's still about what she was wearing, was she promiscuous, if it was her husband does that even count.…
/r/MensRights03/04/12 07:56 PM
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Look. I don't see what all this concentration on NOW is. Like yes, I get it, NOW is a very popular feminist organization and they lobby against father's rights but they lobby for a lot of other things too so asking women to NOT support NOW on one particular issue is kind of unfair and then trying to say that necessarily all those women don't support father's rights is just a logical fallacy. I'm sorry if you don't see how I feel that way but if that's all we're going to argue about then I'm fini…
/r/MensRights03/04/12 03:14 AM
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Well look, I think it does matter if those 500,000 feminists don't ascribe to the particular legislation that that organization is passing. I mean, they can belong to that organization support basically every other measure accept father's rights. That's just were we have to agree to disagree. Personhood amendments would end ALL forms of birth control, IUDs, the birth control pill, even IVF (which I actually don't support in many, many cases). States that have pushed these really hard: Mississipp…
/r/MensRights03/04/12 03:10 AM
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Again, I feel that you are oversimplifying. When working within those organizations I was working in reproductive justice, we were not making any types of claims about custody battles. It just didn't come up. And again, until you can somehow prove to me that majority of feminists believe those things I can't side with you on that because none of the feminists I know personally would ever believe such a thing. Specifically, I was talking about Republicans. I didn't want to make it political but t…
/r/MensRights02/04/12 07:22 PM
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Well we can agree that none of those things are helpful to either cause. To me, and I think a majority of feminists, giving fathers equal rights is a necessary part of dispelling "motherhood" stereotypes about women. If all fathers are abusers than women are stuck in that role forever and it's clearly untrue that all or most fathers abuse their children. Fathers can be good parents and mothers can be bad parents and it doesn't have much to do with their sex but with their personality and situati…
/r/MensRights02/04/12 06:16 PM
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I've done work with NOW and the Feminist Majority but I wasn't actively writing legislature. I do work on academic Feminist Philosophy papers. I think that probably only a very, very small minority of feminists are actually active in writing those particular bills you are talking about even within those organizations. I don't see how that's any different from me making broad claims like "I hate all men in government because the legislature they pass criminalizes birth control" but obviously that…
/r/MensRights02/04/12 05:49 PM
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I've most gotten a lot of comments on /r/mensrights calling feminists sluts and me a liar, "playing the victim" etc. I keep coming back here because I don't think that's the case of all (or even most) MRA, I've gotten some really good, positive thought-provoking feedback too so keep looking. I think it's just really important that there be a distinction between these "feminist laws" and then feminists themselves. I agree with many of the issues the MRA is concerned with and honestly, I think tha…
/r/MensRights01/04/12 08:40 PM
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You keep using this "they" like "those feminists." I am a feminist but you can't group all individuals who identify as feminist into a "they" category. "Yes, that's what they say-- but their actions do not line up with that." I am saying that and my actions DO line up with that. If I ever become a lobbyist (not gonna happen), that's something I WOULD lobby for. You can't just say no feminist believes it because some don't. And also, as a product of divorce, 50/50 custody is NOT the answer in a m…
/r/MensRights01/04/12 07:11 PM
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I am not on the fringe and I do support those things. Women may give birth to the child, and traditionally have had a bigger part in raising it, but that doesn't mean that men shouldn't be treated as equals, a.k.a. not tricking men into getting them pregnant, producing a male birth control pill). I think it is completely at odds with logic to normally grant custody to the mother instead of truly considering which parent is more fit to parent.
/r/MensRights01/04/12 02:06 AM
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I guess the way I feel like masculinity is being used in this context, like being able to have your masculinity challenged, makes masculinity a qualifier for being a male. But certainly there are men that do not posses qualities defined in the traditional definition of masculinity. I'm not arguing it can't exist but I feel like it's not a qualifier and can be applied to men and women equally dependent on the individual.
/r/MensRights01/04/12 02:02 AM
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Assuming that things I find ethically disgusting don't make me mad. I don't know, I often feel disgusted, then I tend to get mad.
/r/MensRights01/04/12 01:57 AM
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Wealth white women (in some cases) are more privileged than than poor white men, certainly this can be seen in cases of uneducated men vs. educated women. These others things, we can agree on. The suicide rate, the life expectancy gap, the homeless population gap, MGM, and workplace fatality. The education gap, I believe, is caused more so by race and class than gender. I am also concerned with domestic violence perpetrated against men (especially given this context of challenging masculinity) b…
/r/MensRights01/04/12 01:53 AM
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I think comparing feminists to Nazies is way out of line. And there are sects of feminism and they believe very different things in some cases. Feminists are individuals too. If feminist works impacts the MRA, and the MRA impacts feminism, I don't see why there's so much hostility. It appears to me we both want gender equality.
/r/MensRights01/04/12 01:48 AM
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Are you talking about how divorce courts regularly give custody to mothers? If so, that's a problem we can agree on. The reason why that is is because women are regularly portrayed to be care givers, which is one of the reasons why I think the MRA movement is important. So that good fathers can gain the respect they deserve as parents and eventually receive non-prejudicial decisions in court.
/r/MensRights01/04/12 01:40 AM
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We were talking about the idea of masculinity. I agreed that women should not be able to abuse men without having somebody intervene because nobody should abuse anybody without third party intervention.
/r/MensRights01/04/12 01:36 AM
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I wasn't attempting to tell you anything about yourself, I simply misunderstood the message, which I am trying to understand. I think that the way the women were acting was terrible. Somebody, anybody, regardless of gender should have said something. Being a good human being is being a good human being. Men nor women should be attacked.
/r/MensRights31/03/12 05:53 AM
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I think I must have misunderstood some of men's right philosophies. I thought that men wanting to be understood as emotional beings and emotion has been deemed a feminine trait, as you said, so I thought that must include some redefinition of "masculine" to include those traits to make it so people aren't defined by gender but by individuality.
/r/MensRights31/03/12 05:49 AM
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Okay, women, generalizing women. Men nor women said anything about it. I would have said something, you probably would have said something. There are plenty of people, men and women, who would have said something. And the problem with the masculinity thing is that it shouldn't be seen as "masculine" to be defensive and take-charge. Masculine should be expanded to involves things typically deemed "effeminate" like caring for children and being emotional.
/r/MensRights31/03/12 05:27 AM
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WHOA! This article straight up says "slut-feminists" which is a horribly degrading to talk about women and an unfair assumption to make about feminists. But mainly I just wanted to say that as a feminist, and speaking for the feminists I know (including males), WE WANT THAT FUCKING MALE BIRTH CONTROL SO BAD. I don't have to take a pill every morning and have Rush Limbaugh telling me I'm a slut and a prostitute because I do? Oh man, please, please, please take that birth control! I think men and …
/r/MensRights31/03/12 05:04 AM
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I just wanted to interject (as a woman) that I couldn't even watch that whole video. Violence, regardless of who it is happening to, is wrong. I am surprised that nobody said anything because I would have. It's really just... gross that a person can do that to another person. But also, why is there this whole "you got beat up by a girl" thing? Obviously girls can get pretty buck, I don't think it's funny nor does it make you gay. And that says a whole other thing about the perception of gays.
/r/MensRights31/03/12 04:59 AM
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I am so gladdened by your response! Gender roles oppress both men and women, it's good to open up this dialogue because it must be the case that we continue to hold these archaic stereotypes... about each other (I guess?) or they are at least somehow furthered in society, and acknowledging that will be helpful in both movements. I also must admit that I hadn't really thought about the issues you mentioned in a context of male rights, I mean once you did I found myself agreeing but it is true tha…
/r/MensRights31/03/12 04:15 AM
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I'm sorry for jumping in here. I loved your answer. I agree (as a feminist) with the points you brought up. Men should absolutely have rights to father, be emotional, be nurses and caregivers. I am beyond in love with that idea. I also support your concern over issues of homelessness (especially for veterans), work place injuries (men typically have more physical/dangerous jobs, which is unfair), and of course the serious discrepancy between how the justice system treats men and women -- white w…
/r/MensRights31/03/12 03:27 AM
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I'm confused. I am not playing the victim and I did not begin with tone arguments, you did by demanding I not respond to your comments. I am simply stating the reasons that I felt justified in entering into your "private" conversation. And again, it does sadden me that you did not respond to my comments with anything except dismissive name-calling. I think perhaps we can both agree that this will be settled by simply beginning a new discussion on the matter so neither one of us must speak to eac…
/r/MensRights31/03/12 02:36 AM
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I don't think that NOW is arguing that men should not have equal rights in parenting. A goal in feminism is essentially to erase the ideas about "mothering" and "fathering" so it becomes only "parenting" because "mother" implies a lot of traditional gender roles that are oppressive to women's (and men's) liberty. Family courts are way more likely to award custody to mothers, but this is due to the traditional gender role that women are emotional caretakers and men are logical money-makers. Obvio…
/r/MensRights31/03/12 02:23 AM
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Historical feminism has held that the only perspective ever being heard is that of a wealthy, white, male. I am not saying that that is YOUR perspective. The individual male voice has the right to be heard, as does mine. I am more than willing, as would many of my modern feminist counterparts, to heard YOUR perspective and moreover, I am very curious and interesting in helping men further their movement as long as it does not infringe on women's rights, which I would doubt that it does if it tar…
/r/MensRights31/03/12 02:13 AM
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This entire conversation is about feminism and anything in support of it will most likely be considered by you to be "debunked feminist dogma". I did not realize that on a public forum you were attempting to have completely a private conversation. I am sorry that when I saw something I thought was incorrect and your treatment of Comeseibella belittling and I said something. I am sorry that you feel that I have somehow ruined this conversation between you and Comeseibella by... interrupting it. I…
/r/MensRights31/03/12 02:03 AM
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They outnumber men in college and graduate schools currently. The people who are employers did not come from these current generations, they came from an era where many, many more men went to higher institutions of learning than women did (their hiring practices still reflect this). In institutions of higher learning, men still get their work published much more often than women do (a women submitting a paper under a male's name is much more likely to be accepted than if she wrote under her fema…
/r/MensRights31/03/12 01:39 AM
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I think your response to Comeseibella was pretty pejorative. "Uhm, okay. Great I guess. I'm not really big on needing approval or respect, but hey if it helps you in some manner and you prefer all the social graces present here then I suppose that's all good." Comeseibella is offering you support in your beliefs, tolerance, not approval. And your assumption that respecting your right to beliefs is somehow just a "social grace" is pretty rude. I don't think that kind of language is helpful in thi…
/r/MensRights31/03/12 12:46 AM
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John Stoltenberg is a male that uses the feminist platform to argue for gay and men's rights and certainly feminists aren't going to a reject feminist theory just because it comes from a man. And men are not only "tolerated," they are welcomed! Women recognize that male advocates are essential towards progression just as white advocates were in the civil rights era. The other half of this equation that you brought up is very important, if anybody studies epistemology (theories of knowledge) it i…
/r/MensRights31/03/12 12:26 AM
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I think that's an oversimplification. A large majority of feminists, at least academic feminists, do not believe that at all. At its core, feminism is concerned with overall equality for all people (men, women, blacks, whites, Hispanics, bisexuals, gays, lesbians, etc, etc, etc). The reason why the idea of patriarchy is so important is because this idea of "patriarchy" privileges wealthy white men, then white men, then white women, then black men, then black women, etc. Feminism teaches that bei…
/r/MensRights31/03/12 12:12 AM
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