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I could definitely see it interesting to explore where men and women agree and differ in what they find attractive in other women. Still though, I've never agreed with what everyone else calls "conventionally attractive". Whatever that prime textbook look is like you said, I can't stand. Genuinely does nothing for me. Can't tell you how many arguments over it I've had. Guy friends have always thought I was crazy that whatever "hot celebrity" of the time was I didn't like. I don't mind "the boys"…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 01:54 AM
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Y'ain't wrong. I just think miscommunication is the biggest cause of most issues we have and debate about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 08:06 PM
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In your defense, I think the problem is those men who say they find anything attractive, don't even realize they're lying to themselves, and don't recognize their own subjective bias. They might genuinely believe all other men think the same as them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 07:57 PM
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Ain't BS brother. Like I said, I don't think she's ugly, but that's just not my type. I'd happily pass on her and let y'all shoot your shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 07:44 PM
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I think OP's post is directly questioning the validity of men saying "To me", that they are lying about their subjective opinion on appearance because it doesn't match what they consider "objective"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 07:43 PM
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I personally don't find Madison Beer attractive at all. But I can acknowledge she's not ugly, and I get why someone else might think the complete opposite, but she just doesn't have the face or the look of what I'm into. I think men are just quick to push their own subjective preferences without objectively considering a person's appearance. I don't doubt many do it to put women down, but I think a lot of men have more specific tastes than they realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 07:21 PM
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I think some people revel in the self-torture. In the same way people can find comfort in physical self-harm, I've known people who will mentally and emotionally destroy themselves, and go out of their way to do it. For them, there's a sick sense of familiarity and safety to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 05:55 PM
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leave him in a state similar to the Chernobyl disaster Don't go crying when you find out I'm better at being ruthless, selfish, and unthinking 👏🫡 Poetry.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:53 PM
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Then perhaps I have such an ego I would just see anyone like that as beneath me anyway. I simply reject anyone holding a worldview where you perceive yourself as somehow inferior or lesser. Perspective is everything. I'm perfectly content letting people self-select themselves from me ever needing to waste my time on them. Real people worth anything aren't like that, that's what my experience tells me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:43 PM
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Bitch behavior to call women evil like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:33 PM
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I saw those links after I looked through the first post. 🤷‍♂️ All I can do is speak from my own life experience. After elementary school, when kids are just stupid kids, I've never had any problems being short. Never had any problems dating. I stand on, the real delusion is thinking so few women would "respect" or "want" a short guy. Because if anyone, man or woman, only sees you as "short" guy, and not just "guy", they're not worth the time for anyone of any height. It's evidence of a shitty pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:31 PM
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Want is meaningful in a relationship, saying, I'm choosing to have this, I'd be fine without it, but I'd rather have it. Need is toxic in a relationship, saying, I require this because I can't fill this hole myself, I can't function without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 03:58 PM
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Anyone, man or woman, who judges cuz of it, is a bitch themselves. Toxic traits go hand in hand with thinking height matters. Not worth dating if they actually care, already says everything I need to know about their personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 03:53 PM
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That sub is a cesspool of self-hatred. I'm calling out every other short guy. You've got two options, cry about it for the rest of your life and whine and complain like a bitch because it'll never change, or grow up and realize it's that pathetic attitude that's unattractive not your height.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 03:48 PM
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Man, 24 15 contacts phone, 8 on discord I don't communicate with anyone online regularly. I only exchange messages for the purpose of meeting up in person, or asking/answering questions. I don't communicate on anything outside of those two places.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 01:58 PM
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we are all slaves to our genes after all. No. I'm not gonna rant about my definition of love, it's something subjective to everyone they have to experience and define for themselves. But I will not accept any conversation that we are slaves to our biology. Animals are slaves to their biology. The beauty of being human is our concious ability to choose and decide for ourselves what we do in any moment, with our lives and actions. You have a choice to be a slave. It's on you if you live as one. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 01:17 AM
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In that case I agree with you. I think we're on the same page. I would consider that open manipulation too, I would draw a distinction between wanting to understand why a person is reacting a certain way to explicitly determing how to respond to that reaction. The "equation" of mental function and deliberate action I was doing was more of saying, the better intellectually understand another person's experience, the better I genuinely feel their pain, and know why I should or shouldn't do certain…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 12:30 AM
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<3 Something I wish more people understood was that it might suck in the short run to put in that effort, but it's well worth it later. It's been rocky but I'm working on it, Hope the same to you too friend!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 12:08 AM
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Okay, then I go back to, is empathy itself manipulation? If you know and understand why someone is feeling a certain way, and know why and how you should comfort them, what should you do? Do nothing? Or comfort them? You might be well aware that there are benefits to the relationship, friendship or otherwise, you have with that person should you comfort them. But you'd also be aware of how much you might unwantingly hurt them if you don't. What should you do? How can you avoid "manipulation" by …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 12:00 AM
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Fair enough, I would probably be concerned with most people who vocally say they're into psychoanalyzing too, as hypocritical as it might sound I still disagree about understanding though. Actively considering new experiences and second hand experiences people tell you is invaluable to better being able to empathize with the experiences of someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 11:33 PM
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I agree many things can be used for both good and evil depending on the intentions of those who wield them, without defining what either of those is. However, I have to disagree that empathy is passive. Empathy is by definition, "the action of understanding, being aware of, being sensitive to, and vicariously experiencing the feelings, thoughts, and experience of another" I don't blame you if you live your life avoiding people who are overly aware of why others do things, it does make it easier …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 11:21 PM
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<image> smh lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:27 PM
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Is empathy itself manipulation then? Anyone who understands why they're doing it is by default risky? Or can only a person who does it without thinking be trusted?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 09:48 PM
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I hear you, that makes sense. It's definitely hard to tell someones intentions, because I think the two behaviors are so similar outwardly. I do get what she means though, I've seen some awful people go out of their way to use that information maliciously.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 09:33 PM
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Feeling a little called out on that second one since I just said something similar in another thread. How do you separate the difference between someone genuinely trying to empathize by understanding where other people are coming from, and doing it explicitly to manipulate them?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 09:03 PM
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I like figuring out why things are the way they are. Even more so, I like seeing the difference between why I think something is the way it is and what someone else thinks is the way it is. So, in general, literally anything they might have an opinion on. When I meet people, I like getting to know them to piece together based on their life experiences why they became the person they did, and hold the views they do, and pursue the things they like. I do a lot of art and design, and so it's always…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 07:55 PM
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A toss up between that and just intelligence. I care more about the quality of the conversation being interesting, and thinking in ways that I don't. Could be either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 07:08 PM
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Gotta be able to talk about anything and everything, and want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 06:20 PM
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If you sampled 700 women from denmark who are 6' tall, you'd get wildly different results than 700 women from china who are 5' tall. The reliability of the sample pool is more important, and we have no information on the bias of the people being surveyed. I'd be more inclined to believe a study on the 4 billion women is diverse enough to cover all of them with a larger sample size.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 06:15 PM
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Gotta be able to talk about anything and everything, and want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 06:06 PM
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I don't acknowledge I'm an outlier. I genuinely believe the portion of women who do care about height that much are a minority. I genuinely believe there's a strong positive correlation between caring about height and other negative toxic personality traits, that make a woman who cares that much un-dateable for a man of any height anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 05:24 PM
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Bruh the only point I'm trying to make is find the study that proves that and then I'll argue about it. I'm 5' 4", I think I know what it's like to be a short guy. In my life, I haven't had any issues, so my bias is that "most" isn't the case. I'm still taller than a lot of women. Maybe it's just "taller", and only "some" want exceptionally tall. Until I see multiple, solid pieces of research to contrary, I'm gonna continue my life going off what I've experienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:58 PM
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You got another study to back up that claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:46 PM
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Assumption that there is a positive correlation between caring about height and desire for muscles. She's saying it would make sense that women who don't care about height, equally don't care about muscles, because the traits those attributes give off aren't what they're looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:43 PM
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You don't know that. You presented a study to back up an opinion. The study is flawed, and therefore the opinion can't be substantiated. If you want to do another study to try to prove it again, you have to do good quality research.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:34 PM
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I've been getting downvoted for saying paying attention to sampling pools and study size research is important lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:12 PM
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If you polled 700 women who run track and field, what their type is, you'd probably get men that look like runners. If you polled 700 women who like art and writing, you'd probably get men that don't work out much. If you polled 700 women who live in the country, you'd probably get built men who look like farmers. We know nothing about the people in the study, where they were from, or who they are. Yes, with more women the results would change.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:59 PM
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That's about the size of one high school. That's an extremely limited population, it's very easy to pull from a biased group and get results the complete opposite of what you'd get one group over at that scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:50 PM
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across four studies (N = 659 heterosexual women) Wouldn't call that a comprehensive study. Anecdotally, the number one compliment I get is on my shoulders and back.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:46 PM
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Yo! LI here! Gotta love the New York charm, warms my heart coming home after I've been away.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:43 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/9gkmxyrw5j8d1.png?width=891&format=png&auto=webp&s=62272365556c874f7173b5d8c4c40af1f3b32758
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:32 PM
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mods just "Be Civil" me I got nothing good to say to this lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:19 PM
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Brute forcing is trying and failing any and every method, until you land on the right one. That's just being a manipulative sociopath brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:48 PM
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That's probably the only topic I refuse to entertain conversation on. There are too many beliefs and behaviors caught up in the mind of someone who justifies it that any time spent arguing about it is wasted. My hot take, if you can't already see why it's a bad thing and a red flag, you're too far gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:18 AM
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Aw much love, been a journey but I'm still here. One stranger to another hope things go well for you too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:54 AM
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<3 I appreciate it, but alas I do have the 'tism (and a diagnosis of ADHD) I've made a lot of mistakes cause of it. I've hurt people close to me as much as myself, and can't count how many times I've been a clown. I brute forced my way to figuring this stuff out. Forced myself into uncomfortable positions, places I didn't really want to go, around people I didn't really want to be. Just too fed up with not understanding I accepted I'd have to learn the hard way. The philisophical side of me comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:34 AM
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You never see the life a person lived to get to where they are when you first meet them. You have no idea who they used to be, and they have no idea who you used to be either. You have to ask yourself, "Am I the kind of person anyone would want to date." Whatever qualities you look for in a partner that make you say "I'd date them", you have to look at yourself from their perspective and say "Would they want to date me?" If you have no redeeming qualities, you either do what it takes to get them…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:12 PM
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Women are far and away the largest consumers of romantic novels, romantic comedies. Fiction is fiction. Miss me with taking advice from fantasies not the real world. Women are more in tune with our emotions in general. In tune with women's emotions. Men complain about women not understanding their feelings all the time. Women complain about men not understanding theirs. You only know your own perspective. Women are typically more socially adept in general. Adept with other women. Men's only envi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:00 PM
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Skill issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:39 PM
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Red Pill/Black Pill ideology made perfect sense once I realized it was all about reducing yourself to an animal, and believing everyone else already is one. For all their "studies" on "instincts" and "social games" and "natural desires", everything boils down to assuming that other people don't actually think. That somehow mastering the cheat codes of biology will be your keys to success. It's an ideology for people that can't understand other people exist. They can't put themselves in another h…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:28 AM
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No one needs to fulfill these desires. They want to. ☝️ If only more people understood that. The great thing about being human is we have agency, we have the ability to choose and conciously decide whether we act on our desires or not, unlike animals who go from one to the next without a thought. Everything is a choice, but some people want to offload the personal responsibility of being in charge of their actions saying, "it's natural so I can't do anything about it." Some are all too eager to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:44 AM
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You got it boss, my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:35 AM
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Bruh. The only credit I'll give you, is that's a thoroughly logical thought process to get to a clown fest of an answer. To use your line of thinking about human nature, let's use, "Expend as little energy, least risk, to get the greatest reward". By that token it is logical to put "all your money in one stock", because humans aren't fucking stocks. What is the biggest complaint both men and women have in dating? Finding someone worth dating. Therefore, the "cost", is in how much time, effort, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:59 AM
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I'd consider myself white pilled if anything. The solution, is accept and view women as the exact same species that men are. We're all human. There are not nearly as many differences between us as red pill ideology wants to pretend exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:37 PM
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Instead of pushing for women to lower their standards, our fellow men should... accept that being alone is a normal condition in life I agree one hundred percent with this. The problem isn't women's standards, it's men's lack of self-respect and standards for themselves. They're so caught up in thinking they need a partner, that they need sex, that they can't stand being alone with their own thoughts. Connection with another human being is great, being in love is great, but being alive is also g…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:19 PM
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Because if you view your partner in such a way that you're "settling" you view them as beneath you. If you view your partner like that, you shouldn't be in a relationship with them. That's toxic behavior. You should view them as your equal, not above, not below, but the same as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:14 PM
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i'm on your side. I'm just saying I think both men and women, though more men, out of desperation for any kind of connection, are willing to take something less than what they want. It's only out of projecting their own insecurity for what they're doing, which is not having the "balls" to be confident and happy alone, that they think they're superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 08:42 PM
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In general I'd say no one is really "happy" settling, people just do because they'd rather have anything than be alone, which is it's own problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 08:30 PM
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Men and women pursue a high body count for the same reason: Insecurity and Validation. To be able to have something, and not need it or go for it, is called self-control. High body count is a marker of a lack of self control because of insecurity pushing that person to need the validation that they are worth wanting. It's not even a libido or desire for sex problem. Who has more sex, a person with 3 partners, who had sex with them 100 times each, or a person with 30 partners, only once or twice …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 07:01 PM
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Okay. Next time I'll be more specific that I mean, people are confused when I tell them I don't use any platform to explicitly share and broadcast me and my personal life. The definition of social media is not was I was here to make any points about, just the nature of the behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 12:53 PM
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I draw a distinction between putting my thoughts publicly and me as a person publicly. People might know plenty about me, but they still won't know who I am. That's why I see it not as social media, though it's just as bad for what I called out on the others, if not worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:05 AM
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Finally a based take.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 12:22 AM
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lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 12:18 AM
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Cheers man, have a good time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 12:14 AM
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Yes. There are very few things that can make up for it, and they all involve exceptional circumstances of your birth. Be born with an insane natural talent at a skill, be born to a family with generational wealth, be born exceptionally attractive. A similar adage that is just as true is, "It's not what you know, it's who you know"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 12:13 AM
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Nah no worries, I respect the honesty. I take full responsibility knowing when I enter this sub it's a dogfight at times.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:36 PM
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lmao. I draw a distinction between what you know about me, and who that information is attached to. you can draw a million pictures, write a million characters that fit that description, and it might never actually be me. who we are in real life is more than the sum of the small things about us.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:28 PM
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On this I can at least concede, I am autistic. For me it really is just like flipping a switch when I'm in a relationship that I just don't care about anyone else. That being said, using your example, the only reason he'd look elsewhere while in one, is because he had to settle for what he considered, less than satisfactory. To that, sure, I agree those men are prone to cheating. That's why I consider that kind of man a bitch, because he chose to enter that relationship, knowing he wasn't going …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:07 PM
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Fair enough man we each got our own types. I would tend to disagree with that second point but that's subjective as well. And yeah, I am 5' 4" and autistic, and I keep that flair there because anyone who thinks that kinda shit is what's stopping a guy from being successful is more retarded than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 07:57 PM
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Lmao you tryna say I must be ugly? I'm an architect. I'm an edgy goth art nerd. I promise there's plenty of actually attractive women with the same interests as me, painting, drawing, writing, camping, games.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:58 PM
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Then I feel bad that those are the only kinds of women you've been around. I've known plenty of attractive women that do share my interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:46 PM
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That's the only point I'm making. The original claim was "hobbies are useless". That's not true. If someone said "Hobbies are all you need to land a date", I would be right beside you saying that's not true. Hobbies are useful information for getting across the kind of person you are, in addition to your upfront attractiveness and personality and demeanor.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:45 PM
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Depends on the kind of woman you're trying to attract. Plenty of women do care, but if you want a superficial relationship by all means focus on being an gigachad alpha male.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:42 PM
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Want a gold star to bring home to mommy?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:36 PM
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Damn bruh with a personality like yours I'm sure you're drowning in pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:35 PM
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It should, but a lot of people who aren't having success are jaded and resentful. To know that someone else accomplished something that they couldn't and didn't, with the same set of tools they did, is a blow to the pride. It should be hopeful that they don't need anything else, I just think too many people would take it the wrong way and think worse of themselves, leading them to ignoring it or calling it fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:33 PM
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I think most people wouldn't let their ego get hurt to believe someone "on their level" was being more successful than them. It's easier for many to think it's because of unattainable things that's their problem, so they don't have to look in the mirror and recognize they are the ones holding themselves back, and they have to actually put effort in to changing. Agreed tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:22 PM
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If you wanna be happy in dating, you have to provide a reason for them to want to stay around. Hobbies won't outright make you successful on their own, but are guaranteed to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:14 PM
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I pity you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:12 PM
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No I wouldn't agree. I genuinely believe plenty men do value their relationship status, and I genuinely believe plenty of man can be perfectly content with one. I reject the idea it's like putting a tiger in a cage. It's more like feeding a crocodile. It needs to eat, and is voracious when it does, but people are perfectly safe being around them when they're full because they have no desire to over-consume.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:07 PM
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I'm responding to the claim hobbies is useless advice for dating. Hobbies are an essential part of what makes a person interesting and says a lot about them and their character and what they're like. Whether or not a person succeeds in dating at all, is a whole lot of other factors on top of that, like being attractive like you said, personality compatibility, and values and principles and other things. I'm not saying dating is easy, but to throw out hobbies altogether is removing a potential po…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:23 PM
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Nah, you're just wrong. The common problem men seem to have, is wanting to be attractive to every possible woman, and what are the cheat codes to accomplishing that. That's not the point, you gotta know what kind of woman you even want to be with and attract. Different hobbies attract different women. If your hobby is painting, you're gonna attract art women and that type. Not all women are gonna be into that. If your hobby is woodcarving, you're gonna attract outdoorsy camping type women. More …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:15 PM
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I don't disagree with anything you said there. My issue thus far is the claim that men naturally desire to cheat and will do it if possible. If the claim was just "men want to have sex and a lot of it" I'd be more inclined to agree. The problem with the claim of cheating is it requires an established "contract" of agreement with another person, and deliberately breaking it. No, it's illogical to claim anyone naturally desires to make bonds with others for the sake of breaking them. Cheating happ…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:57 PM
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Your argument is a fundamental flaw though. It's as backwards as saying and believing "All black people are great at basketball" Okay? Some are? Being black doesn't just make you good at basketball, thats a racist prejudicial stereotype. It's an illogical conclusion to draw that just because an individual belongs to a group, they must exhibit all characteristics and traits associated with that group. My other problem with how you're approaching this is that what you think is a solely male proble…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:20 PM
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I do that in real life though. The observations from real human interactions are far greater than anything online, at least in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:06 PM
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Nah I can't stay away from this. Some men. Some are. Some do. I genuinely think you see men as objects. If you can't separate the fact every man is an individual human being, that being male isn't a common disease and we're not all the same, then I don't believe you think men are anything more than dogs like you said. If you honestly think all men only care about their ego and pride, you really are better off staying single forever, because you'd make an awful partner. You better look in the mir…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:59 PM
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Yeah I've had people get mad at me for not wanting to hang out or get to know new people. Sorry not sorry, but the list of people I want to bother to keep track of is small. I only have so much time and energy to give to begin with, can't waste any of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:23 PM
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Nah I'm actually all for men, or anyone, leaving a relationship that doesn't have physical intimacy. I think it's equally important to emotional in a relationship. I agree it's hardly easy once other responsibilities pile on, I don't have a solution for it, other than being particularly careful of who you decide to enter a committed relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:12 PM
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I just pictured a dude squatting and jumping shouting up up down down to impress a woman. Thanks lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:14 PM
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🤛 I feel the ramblings lmao. Agreed a hundred percent, reddit has nothing to do with my personal life, only my personal thoughts, and that I have no problem with sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:05 PM
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It baffles me and is pretty concerning how much people will do things for people they don't know nor care about. Similar to celebrity worship, like, I can't understand it, it feels like they actually think that person is "above them" and has to give their time to them. I've got maybe 10 people max in my circle, if you're not one of them, I don't care about your life, and why should you get to know anything about mine. People I meet that don't agree or get it set off warning alarms in my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:03 PM
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Yeah agreed. I used to hate calling, because I was anxious and it felt more comfortable to text. Realized later how much better it is to actually hear a person's voice and talk about anything. Texting is such an un-personal and dehumanizing way of communicating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:50 PM
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I look at it like, if I cared about a person enough to want to know how their life is going, i'd call them. If they don't care about me enough to want to call me themselves, show their pictures from their life, why should I care about paying attention to everything they do? Have yet to get a honest rationale for how broadcasting your life publicly isn't a social game.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:42 PM
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People are genuinely confused when I tell them I don't exist anywhere. This is the only place I do anything online. Social media is like plugging a cable to the worst aspects of humanity right into your brain, and keeps people a slave to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:33 PM
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I'm sorry for whatever has happened to you in your life to buy into their bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:23 AM
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Red pill men regard cheating as "Chad" because they, ironically, are "low value males" to use their own words. It is only through insecurity, the fear that one is unable to get another partner whenever they want, that a person would put value in cheating. They have never been wanted that bad, because they are worthless, so they envy that attention. Red pillers that believe that have done their best to convince people it's natural because it's in a morally corrupt person's best interest to get pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:08 AM
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It's in a morally corrupt person's, a cheaters, best interest to convince people everyone is like them, so they can get away with it better. Doesn't make it true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:23 AM
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You know, this does paint a perfect satirical picture of a red pill post.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:12 AM
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Don't know about everyone else, but I define it like that cause i've seen a lot of guy and girl friends who left their relationship status vague and it almost always gets messy. I look at it like, if you don't talk about exclusivity, why would you expect anything more serious than a casual thing. Coulda been on ten "dates" even, and plenty of people might just call that fuck buddies. Seen people get burnt by those "situationships" because one side only saw it like that when they personally thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:09 AM
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The question you need to ask to other women instead is, "How to find a man who won't cheat" This defeatest attitude that all men will cheat, is sad to have and profoundly untrue. Sure, a lot do, and they're weak, shit men. In the same way men are wrong when they say "all women are whores", saying "all men are cheaters" is a generalization that will only make you grow more resentful and blind to reality. The problem has nothing to do with preventing him from doing it, it's finding someone who won…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:10 PM
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Fair man, I agree subjective opinions are totally fair game and it's not anyone's right to define things for anyone else. My only dog in this fight is that I don't think the OP of the original relationship advice post was necessarily in the wrong. 10 months is a long time. Sure, everyone is allowed to determine at their own pace when they want to progress that intimacy line. However, some comments are being disingenuous ignoring that it does still say something. Knowing that it took no time at a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 08:56 PM
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Can't say I have either, in fact I think men are more prone to overly attacking other men in an effort to make themselves look better.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:55 PM
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To me if you haven't agreed to commit to being mutually exclusive it's casual sex, no matter how many dates you've been on. Not arguing about it, just another perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:54 PM
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The way I could see it that isn't directly women always defending women, is that they are defending themselves using the other woman as a proxy. What I mean is, they might not actually care, but because that woman is getting called out for something she does or would do, she is obligated to proactively defend it for fear of getting called out on it herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:34 PM
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Fine then, I stand on my mental health argument, but that's a cause not the issue to me, which is the disrespect. It's about experiencing pleasure. Sure. Sex is about pleasure. If the physical act stays the same, the only thing that changes is the "label" of being in a committed relationship. Why do people enter into a committed relationships? It's a mutual agreement of love, trust, and respect between two people. It's almost always expected to be exclusive, that two people agree to no one else …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:01 PM
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I use mental illness as a generic term for all kinds of mental instability. Be it trauma, depression, bad experiences, or genuine diagnosis of say bipolar, autism, borderline, adhd etc.. These things lead to behaviors that a person normally wouldn't make if they were of sound mind. It's pathetic because it's an interaction built out of disrespect. If a woman just wanted to have sex in front of a bunch of guys, I would think it's weird, but whatever. But doing it to someone she decided to enter a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:35 PM
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Morally inferior, not morally wrong. I openly judge and look down on people who do it. You still have a right to do it, and I have a right to think it's pathetic. Only a mentally ill man can accept his partner getting fucked and watching it. Only a mentally ill woman would think it's fine to do that in front of him. Get some self respect, and treat your partner with respect. Get therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:25 PM
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morally inferior for some reason? Yes. Being a cuck is a fun kink where you get to watch your spouse receive pleasure from another person No. There is nothing wrong with that! Mental illness. Nothing wrong with wanting to get yours as much as you want, but in a relationship? Guy is mentally ill to accept it, and the woman is mentally ill to do it to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:13 PM
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I pity you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:52 PM
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big true my friend big true. offloading personal accountability feels good in the short term, but only perpetuates a problem indefinitely. sometimes, even if the other side is genuinely in the wrong (not that women are here), taking ownership and responsibility of ones part in it goes for miles in terms of growth and mental peace. <3
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:32 PM
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You know, fair. "Small talk" is pretty much anything to fill the air. I like being around people that prefer deep philosophical insights, but I can admit that's not most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:57 PM
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This ain't the first time, so again, who cares if they admit it? If we all know and agree men are more desperate for sex, and that's why women can afford to pick and choose who they want, what does it change if they say out loud "Yeah, you guys are so desperate for sex we don't have to think as much" Nothing changes, except you have it more shoved in your face. Nothing changes, except you'll convince yourself you're justified in being angry at them, and blame them for your own problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:29 PM
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Knowing how to speak isn't the same as understanding how other people think. I'd say what holds a lot of people back is not knowing what to say to people, and that it does matter what you say, even if it sounds "good". That requires having a general idea of how other people's brains work. You can't figure that out if you only have yours to practice with. You can't learn how people think from a book. You need observation and interaction with real human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:12 PM
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I'd argue that's the same thing. To me practice implies improvement, if decades of experiences have gotten you nowhere, I wouldn't call it that. Your interpretation of those past experiences are going to be filtered through the lens of those restrictions, what you remember will only be what you felt and thought at the time. You have to go out and make new ones actively trying to change, to notice the things you didn't before, and intentionally make mistakes you were too afraid of then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 06:54 PM
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Yeah I hear you, I think that's why a lot of people want an "easy" answer like just get fit bro, just get money bro. It takes a lot to willingly push yourself outside your comfort zone for the sake of personal growth. Like you I put myself in a lot of uncomfortable positions and made an ass of myself all the time. It was only because I was more frustrated with being stupid around people that I got over that social anxiety hurdle.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 06:01 PM
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To play the other side, because I agree fully with you, I would say the main problem is that there is no way to "work on yourself" to figure out social skills. You can go to the gym and get fit, your success is entirely dependent on the effort and work you put in. However, as you said relationships are fundamentally a social thing, and therefore require at least one other person to "practice." That's a very emotionally and mentally taxing process, the trial and error of figuring out those things…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 05:46 PM
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Yes to all three.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 05:21 PM
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I presented this more as a basis point to get a starting idea. Those 21 year olds then are in their 40s now, so the world is definitely a very different place. I can't imagine it more than doubling since then past 30%, so let's say about 25%. That in mind, say 1 in 4 people loses it past 21. At that age, late college for many, early work force for others, is still significant enough it's noticable in a social situation. Having been there myself, as we get older, the things we can't relate to, su…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 03:43 AM
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https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/ad/ad384.pdf CDC data from 2002, sample size ~6,000 Table 4 Percent distribution of ever having sex and age at initiation of sex, "15% of adults abstained from sex until age 21 or older." If we take 21 as about the age you really start to enter adulthood, if you are still a virgin by then, you are one of 3 in 20 people who will have their first time any point after that. In comparison, 15% less than 15, 41% 15-17, 28% 18-20 I'm not going to cast judgement or even ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 02:59 AM
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Sixteen percent of adults first had sex before the age of 15, while 15% of adults abstained from sex until age 21 or older. Unrelated to the topic, this statistic from the first link stands out to me. The first part, has some really dubious implications. I doubt all those circumstances of under 15 are with other under 15 year olds. The second part, means all these discussions that happen about "late bloomers" make up only 15% of people that have had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:44 PM
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Not really hard to understand why our society is the way it is then don't ya think. Been like this for thousands of years, maybe there was a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:24 PM
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no worries boss
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:19 PM
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Let's say I cast a magic spell. Starting tomorrow, the simps are considered the most attractive. Women are listing simp behaviors as what turns them on. When the simping stops, she begins to lose attraction. I mean, that's pretty much what OP is saying, that in this hypothetical reality it's the simping behavior itself that's attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:11 PM
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Matriarchal society. There are already plenty of men willing to get on their hands and knees and worship them, if they actually found it attractive they'd rule the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:04 PM
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I get the question you're trying to ask, and I just don't agree with the wording. It's hard to answer because I personally think only immature, dysfunctional people who genuinely don't know what it feels like to be satisfied would want to have sex with someone else in that situation. In that case, how many people do I think are like that? Unfortunately a lot. Probably 30% of men and women. That's me saying, I think 30% of people are unable to be satisfied in a committed relationship, because of …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:53 PM
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Healthy, mature communication is something a lot of people are afraid to do at best, and incapable of at worst. Ignorance is bliss to a lot of people. That conversation of boundaries forces both sides to confront if they're actually compatible as partners, and many would rather keep a sinking ship floating than move on to the next. Worse, if there's a disagreement, insults and blame and shaming of one side or the other are bound to happen. Expectations from a partner should be discussed very ear…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:42 PM
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I'd say whatever feelings he might have are disingenuous to what I'd consider "real" love. If you just ate a full gourmet meal with dessert on top, you're not hungry anymore, you don't even think about snacking, even if it's just trashy fast food on the way home. If a guy is actually, really happy and satisfied, by definition all his needs have been met. At that point, why would he cheat? If he does, his needs must not have been met, at which point I doubt the sincerity of his feelings for his p…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:36 PM
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It is the point though. If you're in a happy and fulfilled relationship why would you feel the need to have sex with anyone else? A completely happy relationship is definitely assuming the sex life is fulfilling too. If you want a number then, I'd say 0%, because anyone who would want to is lying about being in a happy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 05:56 PM
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You really wanna go down the tit for tat route? How often do you get laid? Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 01:42 AM
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Let's get drinks and see where things go haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 01:41 AM
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Both. For reasons in my life at different times I've gone to romantic partners and close girl friends and it's always made those relationships stronger.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 12:27 AM
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Much love bro <3
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 12:21 AM
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It definitely was why. It's not a scarcastic flair, he was calling me a unicorn for being a short autistic man that actually dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 12:20 AM
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I think that's a pretty good assement. I think a lot people can identify the two ends of that scale but are blind to seeing the different stages in-between. I definitely agree it's essential to understand why and how to be the person on either end, and that doing that is the only way to see who people really are and how to become the best versions of ourselves. Godspeed to you too friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 12:03 AM
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Genuinely though, the whole point of OP's post is that the ideal is a balance of both "feminine traits" and "masculine traits", however you wanna define those. I mentioned being called that because I thought it was funny how some men are quick to define and put people in a box. I'm not just that, but some people don't want to think that hard and it must be either one or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:44 PM
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Lmao do you think you got me with that? I promise those "feminine neurodivergent traits" do pretty well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:16 PM
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What some guys don't understand is it's exactly that, a profound gesture of trust in another person. All I hear when they say "never cry" "never be vulnerable" is people too afraid to trust anyone. The whole point is that yes, it can hurt being emotionally vulnerable. It's so profound because if you can truly trust them to not take advantage of it and hurt you, it's another kind of bond that is like nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:13 PM
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I'm routinely baffled by some of their comments. For people who claim to want to be with women so bad, they genuinely don't like them. I guess the answer is they only see sex but I must be too turbo autistic to really get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:02 PM
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They'd crucify me too if they knew that I've cried in front of women in my life before. And shockingly, they've always taken it to heart and we bonded. But nah, "weakness" is cringe and beta to these guys like that artist. The angry crying posts of "Nooo you don't find attractive what I think is attractive" will never cease to be funny. They're so caught up in refusing to change who they are to be actually attractive they have to force their shitty personalities on everyone else. And then they c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 10:48 PM
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That's about how I read it too. I just laugh at it at this point, thanks though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 10:41 PM
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You'd be right, it was a red pill man lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 10:32 PM
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I got categorized as a "neurodivergent feminine man" on here. For saying I enjoy hanging out with women and comfortable being vulnerable around them. You're too right for a lot of men here to accept. They're so focused on being hyper-masculine and not being "weak" that they'll refuse to believe what you're saying. Nuance is too complicated, they'd prefer to live in a world that is black and white with clear boxes to put people in.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 10:28 PM
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Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 09:03 PM
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Damn and I thought I was retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 09:00 PM
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What isn't a problem to me might be a big deal to someone else. I have no right to belittle their experience just because I have a different view of it. If they feel they need therapy and that it'll help them I'm all for it. I'd much rather people fixate on therapy, you know, the idea of getting professional help for your problems, than the archaic idea of toughing it out alone while you suffer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 07:25 PM
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If you don't want to decide what women find attractive, then what does the narrative matter? By all means you shouldn't need them to be honest to you since you seem to think you know exactly what they want. Who cares if they say it loud? What does that change?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 07:05 PM
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It makes my life easier? I don't care what other people do, casual sex isn't something I enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 06:01 PM
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Cry about it? No seriously, what do you actually think you can do? You think you can decide what women find attractive for them? They want what they want, and they're going to continue wanting what they want, whether you bitch about it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:10 PM
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People can get mad all they want, but you can tell a person's level of confidence and respect for themselves by what they expect from others around them. Low self esteem leads people to tolerating much worse and toxic behavior because they think anything is better than nothing. Self assurance gives people the confidence to move on, turn away people, and pass on opportunities . They don't need them. Getting mad at others for their standards is the peak of insecurity, because they see someone who …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:00 PM
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Because many men are desperate and have no standards as a result, so women who have any standards and self-respect make them feel insecure for their own lack of.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 04:37 PM
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Also, just because someone says something, doesn't mean it's true. For all we know, those women do have a hard time separating sex from dating, they just didn't have a hard time with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 01:25 PM
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I hear you but just in my experience people who haven't felt for themselves how harsh loving someone you're incompatible with can be, just brush it off as, "well I could make it work." Having known myself before I wizened up, I know I did hear a lot of valid advice, but it either flew over my head or I was too desperate / infatuated to care or want to listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 01:10 PM
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Definitely applies to everyone. I feel lost when I want to help someone avoid going through what I went through, without the firsthand experience I don't even know where to begin to get them to understand the raw feelings and why some relationships just aren't worth it. And then trying to convince someone afterwards that not all relationships are doomed and there's still hope? Even harder to try to do. I said it as a joke that this is too sane for this place, but there's a part of me that does b…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 04:42 AM
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Understanding that beforehand rather than learning it after disappointments, abuse, would help people avoid the bitterness that's so so common these days. I think this is the biggest hurdle for most men to overcome. I learned the hard way and it's a coin toss coming out the other side keeping a positive view of love and intimacy or becoming cynical and jaded.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 04:22 AM
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This is too sane and intelligent for this place man, but you right.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 03:57 AM
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Sounds like OP is grasping at straws for any explanation other than looking in the mirror
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 10:01 PM
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Bruh. It doesn't matter what you wish was attractive, if a dude is attracting people to him, he's attractive. That's like, what the word means. You're the delusional one if you think you know what women should find attractive better than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 09:43 PM
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Plenty of far more handsome men with equal amounts of swagger, charisma and bad boy factor. Ah but women are delusional because they don't like what he thinks is attractive. Clearly, women are wrong and don't know what they should actually be attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 09:28 PM
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Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 08:59 PM
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Someone didn't get nap time at preschool today? Mommy didn't pack your favorite snack? You've clearly never been trusted by a woman if you actually don't believe that plenty of them would rather die than be raped. Whatever meds you need to remember to take, you gotta look in the mirror for how you've been talking about this. You're the mentally ill one bruh.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 08:50 PM
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Hey man I'm just telling you what the women in my life have told me. There are some things as a man we'll never understand about the life of women, and that they'll never understand about ours. No I genuinely don't understand how someone could be so fucking stupid If you wanna say that the majority of women who feel this way, the millions of them, are stupid, go right ahead. But that's a you problem. You wanna talk statistics, I'm pretty certain it's more likely they all know something and feel …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 08:24 PM
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I don't know what your life is like, the kind of places you've been, or the people you know. For me though, I barely trust anyone as it is. It's the difference between knowing that an animal is gonna act like an animal, and will either leave you alone or kill you, and having no idea what an unknown person might do. If you've actually heard those stories, you'd understand why some women would rather take the chance of dying, over the miniscule possibility a man might make her suffer worse. It's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 08:11 PM
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I don't feel called out by women picking the bear. If you've actually heard those stories and don't get it, you're the kind of guy they're worried about. If you feel personally attacked by it, you need to be concerned about how you view and treat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 08:05 PM
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Ask again when you've heard a woman tell you her first hand experiences being assaulted and abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:43 PM
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Who has more sex? A person who has slept with 30 people once, or 3 people thirty times each? Any feeling of "missing out" because someone didn't sleep with a lot of people for sure happens, but is misplaced due to that feeling of just not being wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:06 PM
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That's a lot of words to say people want to feel desirable. Man or woman doesn't matter, if you feel undesirable, you open the gate to envying people who are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:51 PM
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Strong maternal instincts should by all means be a very good thing, but I think it's less they don't want a woman who prioritizes their child and more they don't care about a child that isn't theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 02:18 PM
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Mans in the trenches 🫡🥲
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 01:59 PM
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Yep. Have nothing to add.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 01:31 PM
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It's sad that I even am a unicorn to a lot of people. If I bought into the rhetoric I would've been just another poor dude complaining about the "injustice" of the modern dating. I didn't accept that for myself, and I realized it was all bullshit in the process. So many people have just been so convinced they've given up and can't even believe an alternative is possible. If by just breathing I'm challenging and pissing on people's worldviews I'm happy for it. As much as I love arguing it's a bit…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 01:18 PM
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Women vouching to other women. I made a close friend group in college, then other friends at work. Dating comes up a lot in casual conversation, so if they had a single friend they'd get us to talk. Cold approaches rarely work outside of a bar/club setting, but women trust other women, so if one introduces you it's much smoother.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 01:11 PM
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It's a self harm thing at this point that I keep coming back.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:51 AM
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I'm sure there's some who think I don't lmao. I enjoy pissing on people's world views by just being here
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:34 AM
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I have been "that guy she tells you not to worry about" more than once. For as much as I dislike the way a lot of red pillers talk, they are right sometimes. Loyalty only goes so far as a perceived better option. If you figure out how to be better than what she has, it's painfully easy. There was a meme that goes something like "If shes single, you're competing with a thousand dudes. If shes taken, you're competing with one" Its true. On the other hand, being a short autistic man, I proved to my…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:04 AM
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When people say desperate guys don't get girlfriends, they mean desperate personalities. There's a difference between being desperate and behaving desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 02:34 AM
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Emotional maturity and stability is like, one of the only other things outside of physical intimacy that anyone gets in a relationship for. Why would anyone intentionally do that to themselves. You're trying to sell women on the idea of potential, that they should suffer in the short term, because once they get through it they'll be worth having around. Nah, women don't owe that to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 01:00 AM
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My brain is hurting trying to wrap my head around this braindead way of thinking. It's like saying women are wrong for not wanting to get in a house that's on fire. Like what? Fix your shit first man, she's not a firefighter, not her job to put it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:36 AM
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I think you hit on exactly what it is. One of the factors of the male loneliness epidemic is women not dating down emotionally. If OP isn't trolling, he's literally saying women are bad because they're responsible for men's problems, and women are bad for not fixing men's problems. Can't win either way because all they want is to blame anyone but themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:24 AM
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Bruh. Are you trying to say women should date down emotionally? *OP responded and deleted : "Yes, unironically"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:07 AM
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It's socially accepted to make fun of easy targets. Most people keep their real opinions hidden. Either because they're too coward to say them out loud, or they have something to gain by not or lying about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:09 PM
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You know you have a good one too. I usually avoid talking about it, this is the only topic I can't remove my personal feelings from to try to approach objectively. I'm somewhat amazed with how respectfully you've engaged with me, so thank you for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 04:20 PM
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I appreciate and respect the time you spent to seriously respond, considering I was coming at this topic pretty harshly. I don't know what you've been through, but it feels like you've been through some shit, so I respect you for still being here. I'll be fair in acknowledging I'm heavily biased in this. I have an ex who I cared deeply about. She unloaded a lot of emotional trauma on me, including that she had been a prostitute. I cared about her enough I was willing to look past it, if she obvi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 04:41 AM
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It's not a sarcastic flair, I'm really 5' 4" and autistic. I have my flair as that, and talk about it, to spit in the face of stupid shit that's said. That being short, being autistic, and other "negative" traits, will doom a man to a loveless sexless life. I'll be bluntly honest it's not hostility towards unsuccessful men, it's pity. I refuse to accept arguments from people that perhaps I was just lucky and that's why I didn't have to do it. By other men's standards, I could've had a face carve…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 02:11 AM
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I have no respect for it in any capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 12:15 AM
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Hey man you're an adult free to make your own decisions. I'd sooner die alone. I have no respect for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 12:08 AM
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Cry harder. Sure they matter, but you can only blame yourself for not improving anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 03:27 PM
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The survival of the most adaptable is an interesting way of putting it that I think is right too now that I think about it. Looking at a lot of different species and our own, some traits persist that we can easily say are not direct evolutionary advantages, or even detriments. I'd say they persists because as long as the thing has enough other traits to survive to reproduce, in this case, is adaptable enough, then it doesn't matter. It would explain why a lot of mutations occur and last, as long…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:22 PM
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Sure that's fair, it's argued that humans were historically shorter because physical prowess outside of endurance wasn't necessary for hunting other creatures. Tools did the work, not fists. It makes sense to consider outside of the rare other animal (our extinct human relatives for example) that is roughly our size and weight, the potential conflict will be heavily in favor of one side anyway. For the purposes of understanding the importance of play, what the reason is for the physiological dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:18 PM
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They don't actually care about the other person or the work and effort of a relationship and what it means. They just need to check off that box because they think it'll make them feel better about themselves. It's how you get guys in other posts and everywhere else coping about prostitution. Nah bro, you can't escape how paying for sex is pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:07 AM
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I think that's great. More men should stop settling too, but most won't. Men's lack of standards doesn't mean women should lower theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 04:56 AM
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Charming is a high standard, so she should settle for a guy thats just kinda awkward and makes her feel weird. Outgoing is a high standard, so she should settle for a guy that is meek and avoids leaving his comfort zone. Intuitive is a high standard, so she should settle for an emotionally dense guy who doesn't understand her. Sociable is a high standard, so she should settle for a shut in that's hard to be friends with. Self-Assured is a high standard, so she should settle for someone who's afr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 04:47 AM
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I think nature vs nurture questions are fascinating. Deleted that last paragraph initially cuz I wasn't sure if it really added to my commentary but I think there's a lot of reasons our modern society is dealing with problems we haven't had to in our history. It's too short a time frame for our nature to have changed, so changes to our nurture, notabley our early childhood develeopment, are the likely culprit. Our civilizations operated about the same for a long, long time, but the past 100 year…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:27 AM
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It also makes sense why then in our current society, with more and more men being socially isolated, we're seeing a rise in unstable and chaotic men. They're just doing what their nature designed them for, but without the proper guidance to know how to use it right.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:49 PM
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You're right blame usually doesn't fall on anyone. I'm just going off the takes I've heard and seen other guys have. "Women won't fuck me cuz I'm short wahhh" The pity party here is crazy. Yeah, being short and autistic is out of my control, but some guys genuinely, like in this post, complain women's standards are the problem and should fuck them anyway. Having been insecure and pathetic about it in the past, it's a personality thing most guys don't want to admit is a them problem. It's on me t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:47 PM
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This is a completely baseless theory, so take it with a grain of salt. I'm going to assume a lot of things about evolution and biology. One being that one of the major priorities of the male of a species like us is to be physically capable of hunting other creatures, and defending against other creatues. To that end, hormones like testosterone and other biological factors develop the body of the male to acheive that goal. These changes also alter the way the brain functions, to be more efficient…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:30 PM
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I look at it like, if I got picked because she has low standards, that says more about me than it does her. If I can be picked just as easily as any other dude, I'm obviously nothing special. I don't get why men think women's standards are a problem. Men should want it to be "difficult", not that women even expect much as it is. If she's got really, really high standards, and I happen to meet them, well I must be doing something right. Why would I, or anyone, want a partner that expects nothing …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:52 PM
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Nah. The ironic thing about saying women should lower their standards, is those men are indirectly calling themselves worthless. Only thing they're self-aware about. They'd rather blame anyone else for why they're un-dateable. Lotta guys need to look in the mirror.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:25 PM
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If you think about what those men are saying between the lines, they want a justification for that weird behavior. They're exposing themselves by saying if they were just "hotter" if they could get away it. They don't want to reflect on why it's weirdo shit, they just want to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:40 PM
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If you think about what those men are saying between the lines, they want a justification for that weird behavior. They're exposing themselves by saying if they were just "hotter" if they could get away it. They don't want to reflect on why it's weirdo shit, they just want to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:39 PM
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Straight up mental illness. Every woman I know has at least one bad story about being harassed or worse. And yet guys will go on to complain why women have such "high standards" I don't blame y'all. I have a sister and she can defend herself but I'd be lying if I said I don't worry about her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:27 AM
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Wait, are you saying your partner should want to have sex with you? Nah you're crazy for that. Without getting into story time I knew a woman who had been a prostitue as a friend a long time ago. Shit she's said haunts me sometimes. How men can go on to call themselves an alpha or a chad after paying to use someone is something I'm too turbo autistic for.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:03 AM
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Mental illness. Men who cope about prostitution are just depressing at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:44 AM
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If you wanna get off use your hand or be someone someone would actually wanna fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:58 AM
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Is it worth it to you? If you care that much about missing out, go for it. My opinion is nah, but you're an adult it's on you to decide.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:56 AM
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You can buy a brief moment in time. You can't buy real intimacy. You can't buy a connection with someone who genuinely wants you. You can't buy love. Is that worth it? It's your life to live, it's you who has to live with your thoughts for the rest of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:38 AM
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Sure, plenty of people hold subjective opinions that they don't openly voice for one reason or another. Sure, perhaps this is one of those things people quietly accept but publicly don't. For myself, I have strong negative opinions about prostitution. For people who are sellers, and especially so for buyers. No matter how much people admitted to it, I would never change my opinion on it. For something to be normalized it'd have to be an opinion held by the majority. In this hypothetical, it all …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:57 AM
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Immaturity? Hypocrites? Hypocrites are immature and stupid? I'm not your target group, but I do care about body count. I judge men by the same ruler. Tangent story time if you'll bear with me. I had an ex, ages ago when I was desperate and didn't know how to read red flags. Knew her from highschool and we hooked up after college by chance. Slept with over 30 guys, I came to find out. After the second time we hooked up, admitted she was an "ex"-prostitute. Admitted she had fucked a rich dude for …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:32 PM
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Tangent story time if you'll bear with me. I had an ex, ages ago when I was desperate and didn't know how to read red flags. Knew her from highschool and we hooked up after college by chance. Slept with over 30 guys, I came to find out. After the second time we hooked up, admitted she was an "ex"-prostitute. Admitted she had fucked a rich dude for money just two weeks before she and I got together. Wanted to by friends with benefitis. I noped out of there fast. She calls saying she needs me in h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:26 PM
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"Do I want to hear their opinion." It can mean a lot of things, from intelligence, to humor, to emotional comfort and advice. Really, it just means, If I have a thought, any thought, I want to go to them and ask what they think about it. If they aren't someone I have that gut response of "I wonder what their take is on that" they don't even enter my mind as a potential partner. I find it harder to meet people I think have interesting takes and ways of thinking than fit my attractiveness standard…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:02 PM
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Desperation is a hell of a drug
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 06:57 PM
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Yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 06:35 PM
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There are a lot of studies into growth that 25 is about the age your brain completes its development. It just isn't feasible as far as society is concerned, to restrict many of those things, till 25. Considering just 100 years ago we had actual children working in coal mines and other dangerous industrial jobs, our society and economic structure pushes people out of their homes, into into productive cogs in the machine. 18 is a byproduct of being the youngest age that is socially acceptable in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 07:20 PM
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As contentious a topic as it is, body count is probably the only real tangible way to determine "SMV". I'd say there is "actual body count", the number of people a person has been with, and "rejected body count", the number of opportunities at sex you personally turn down. I include the second one because knowing how many people want to sleep with you is a valid indicator, even if you personally don't engage with it. I mean, it should be self-explanatory that if people want to have sex with you,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 06:43 PM
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As a group of anonymous commenters this is unfortunately a futile effort. In theory sure, it'd be interesting to compare what people rate themselves versus an impartial group's rating, but given every comment is just text on a screen of people rationalizing how they view themselves, no valuable conversation can be had about the reality of "SMV"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 06:33 PM
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Take it from the autistic guy, that life ain't all about numbers and ratings. I more than understand the desire to categorize and logically assess where a person might stand, but who you are as a person, personality and character wise, is far more abstract than a number can ever give you. Someone else mentioned what you can get is more important than what you think you are, and that's the facts. It doesn't matter if you think you're a 2, your life experience might be full of success and prove ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 06:05 PM
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I'm not even gonna argue on what our nature is, I just have a question. Do you want to be just an animal, or do you believe humans are more than that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:26 PM
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Prior to the 1900s, and even well into the beginning of it, the idea of a divorce was something well fought against, with the support of most religious institutions. Even if you weren't "devout" or cared about the institution, getting a divorce was incredibly difficult, and if you were a woman wanting one near impossible. History isn't just the past two generations, you have to be ignorant of the thousands of years humans have been coupling with one another to not know women didn't have a choice…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:13 PM
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Having a choice is always preferable to having no choice. Too many choices is not the question here. Sure, it might be difficult to choose which man out of the options to marry, but choosing to marry at all, is a choice women didn't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:54 PM
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I see what you're saying. I agree in regards to the context of dating as a whole, too many options can be difficult. The specific context of OP's post, however, is about whether women are happier now when they can choose to be married as opposed to ye-olden time when they didn't. That's not a problem of too many options of men to get married to, it's a question of are they happier if they can. In that sense, the freedom to choose is good here. Sure finding the guy to get married to will be daunt…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:45 PM
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Third study I linked speaks on that, of too many choices being detrimental. When I speak of "Freedom to choose" I mean the freedom to have any choice. I will stand on the belief that it is a fact you will always be happier having a choice over no choice. Diminishing returns from number of choices does not erode that core concept at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:35 PM
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supposedly they did not have a choice I mean OP unironically said this. Your example shows how ridiculous this is. Feels like some men want the equivalent of a slave as a partner, I guess it shouldn't be surprising then that they get mad and complain when women choose to stay the hell away from them. And are happier for it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:19 PM
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And the fact OP is asking for "proof" that being able to choose for yourself will make anyone happier is wild and a wild mindset to have. Having the freedom to choose inherently makes you happier, anyone who doesn't know or believe that has issues flat out. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5209362/ The Freedom to Pursue Happiness: Belief in Free Will Predicts Life Satisfaction and Positive Affect among Chinese Adolescents https://docs.iza.org/dp15315.pdf Influence of Freedom of Choic…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:00 PM
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You know what, you aren't wrong. It's a lot of emotional baggage to listen to stories they wish they could forget, that you'll never get out of your own head. Damn, you mighta hit on something else too, after being traumatized by man after man, why would they ever try to have a normal healthy relationship again? Why bother dealing with that trauma yourself, better to let some other poor guy suffer through it. You know what, you aren't wrong. Don't date them. Spare yourself from growing up and st…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 01:43 AM
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I mean hell i'd argue in some circumstances people can escape too much in seemingly "benign" things. It all comes down to moderation in my opinion. If you start spending an inordinate amount of time on it, it stops being a potentially healthy outlet, and becomes a dangerous cage. Speaking for my own experience with addictive habits, it's all too easy to fall down the cliff.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 09:13 PM
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Yeah I hear you, I think a lot of people want to avoid talking about it altogether, either saying porn is 100% good with no problems, or its 100% evil, and avoid communicating with the other side, when it's a really complicated problem of human emotions and mental wellbeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 09:05 PM
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I'd agree that it's not entirely direct. My original comment has more of the essence of what I believe, that it's a slippery slope of excuses that can make consuming more and more porn more comfortable and convenient than ever trying to improve. I think the problem with porn is it can exacerbate existing problems, but would agree it doesn't cause them in and of itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 09:00 PM
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Sure, if you don't have women wanting to have sex with you I think porn is a perfectly reasonable outlet. I'm talking to OP's point about "If your partner is choosing porn over having sex with you". If someone does want to have sex with you, and you choose porn, you have issues. We can't control or make anyone want to have sex with us. It's entirely on us, to carve ourselves into a statue someone would want to be with. I can't blame a woman if she doesn't want to have sex with me, only work on m…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:55 PM
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I'd have opinions about the experiences and mental state that would bring a man to only want sex and avoid dating and relationships. I'm not saying there aren't men like that, and I don't have any problem with men who live like that it's their choice, however I don't think it's healthy, that's just me. In that case, sure, if all you care about is getting off, watch porn. If you really have to get a prostitute. If that's all you want do it. I just personally don't believe mentally well people wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:52 PM
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Lmao did you forget your own words? Reading comprehension not your strong suit? I'm talking explicitly about a situation where a man is choosing to watch porn instead of having sex with a partner that is ready and willing to have sex. It's not about the woman not being in the mood, its choosing porn over her, even when she is in the mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:41 PM
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You're not wrong. Life isn't fair. I could complain about a lot of things, or I could accept I can't change most of it, and do what I can regardless. Giving up and using porn as an escape isn't the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:38 PM
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First of all, I wasn't the one who brought prostitutes into it. your partner is choosing porn over having sex with you This is the key point you made, that I have problem with, which your statistics support. If about 70% of men are watching porn, and about 70% of adult males are married, then a lot of men are watching porn, when they could be having sex with their partner. If you are choosing porn over having sex with a partner ready and willing to have sex with you, you have issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:05 PM
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To the first point, I agree, it's purely a self discipline issue, that's just a hypothetical excuse. To the second, I agree, it's the feature not a bug. It's manufactured to be as pleasurable as possible, which preys on those people who lack self-discipline. Sure, I'm making a subjective opinion that it's sick to prey on those people. To the third, it's a rhetorical question for people that would, as OP said, "your partner is choosing porn over having sex with you". Sure, you can get sexual rele…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:59 PM
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I agree, I'm just speaking on what OP is talking about, as a potential explanation for why as he said, someone might be choosing porn over having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:55 PM
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Bruh you just used "A miniscule number" and "Most men aren't" let's not get into the specific number bullshit. My only problem with porn, in the context of this post, is that choosing porn over someone already ready and willing to have sex with you, is a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:27 PM
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If you're single and going out to meet someone and you're jerking off to porn here and there that's fair. It's when you would rather get off to porn, instead of having sex with someone ready and willing to have sex with you, that's a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:24 PM
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I'm not saying men don't want intimacy, I'm saying a lot fail at it and complain about it and turn to porn because of that failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:18 PM
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For sake of a simple argument, a guy has two options if he's horny after a day at work/school whatever. Go home and watch porn, or go out and try to meet someone. Going home to porn can guarantee immediate pleasure and reward. Going out is going to be a long, emotionally and physically exhausting process, that has a low chance of success, and the opportunity for sex would only likely happen after a week at best. Given those two options, you gotta be kidding me if you think most men aren't avoidi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:08 PM
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I'm 24
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:02 PM
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? If you want to get off go right ahead with a hooker or porn, it will satisfy you I'm not arguing it won't. OP's post is debating the harm of porn to a person's sex life. If you condition yourself to easy pleasure, through things like paid sex and porn, you will definitely have problems because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:01 PM
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It's worse because it directly warps your perception of women worse than porn will. It's not the act of going outside I'm talking about, it's the social aspect of meeting, talking to, and developing a connection with another human being. You don't get that through a screen, you don't get that through transactional sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:52 PM
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Considering I used to smoke a disgusting amount of cigarettes, that might be the case lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:46 PM
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When it takes less effort and energy, mentally and physically, to just get off to porn instead of going out into the real world to meet someone, porn is the problem. The convenience and comfort of it is a sickness. Sex is a lot of work, it takes a lot of energy, it can feel vulnerable, among plenty of emotions that can make it daunting on both sides. Why go through that trouble, when you can get off in the safety and privacy of your own room? People will usually take the easier option if its the…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:42 PM
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There does seem to be a misunderstanding of what vulnerability means. There is a confidence to being unafraid of admitting if something is bothering you, or troubles you. It's when like you said you act like a victim about your problems that stops being vulnerability, and starts being pathetic. I've cried in front of a partner before. A lot of guys here would say that's asking for an execution, but it's one of the most bonding moments I've had.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:23 PM
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Best advice. People's true nature comes out when they have nothing to gain. My poppop always told me to think about "Who are you when no one is around" to figure out the kind of man I wanted to be. Too many people, men and women alike, are fake in public and a different animal behind closed doors
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:01 PM
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Every woman I know has 1 or more story of being harassed, assaulted, or worse. Why should they ever trust another man? It already has gone differently for me, for my parents, for friends. My own life is my own proof for myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:17 PM
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I'm pretty sure that's what maturity is about. Hey man don't listen to me and my anecdotal experience, but not all women are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:09 PM
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It's sad because it feels as though many men have been burnt to the point they don't believe women that will stick around even exist anymore. Nothing really to do to convince them the real ones are out there. And yeah, putting on a mask is recipe for disaster that is the complete opposite of being comfortable with your partner. You gotta be able to be you, in whatever shape or form that means, around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:02 PM
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It's not a problem of "have to", it's a matter of being comfortable enough with anyone to want to. I get that it isn't easy, damn near impossible at times to trust someone that much, but finding someone to want to be vulnerable around and trust them to do so, is incredibly valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:55 PM
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If she's immature sure. Mature women exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:49 PM
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Does any man deserve that vulnerability? What actually makes women any different, other than if you're straight, wanting to have sex with them? I'd get it if you don't want to be vulnerable to anyone, but drawing a line with just women is ignoring the fact they are human just like us, with the same fears, anxieties, hopes and dreams.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:47 PM
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Agree wholeheartedly. I'd be tempted to say it's a desperation thing, that some guys will tolerate bullshit because they want anything. I've fucked around enough to know it's just not worth it, it's better to pass on ten opportunities than suffer through the bad first one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:44 PM
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Why do you need a woman for this shit anyway? I feel like none of you have male friends, and are putting all this stuff that should be in a male friendship onto women. When my partner is my best friend, I want to be around her over any other guy friend. Life is sweet when you can trust anyone enough to be vulnerable, and when they're also the person you love? Nah, that's golden.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:40 PM
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Sure, you make yourself "weak", because that's the point. Being vulnerable is how you show trust to another person, that you trust them to see your weakness and not take advantage of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:34 PM
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The saving time thing is huge. When I hear guys say never be vulnerable to a woman it's just sad. Don't waste time being with someone that isn't mature and respects you as a human being to listen to that stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:29 PM
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I'd agree plenty of guys can get away with just being attractive to get a woman on the hook for a short time thing, but that's not enough to keep them around long term. When I say would you date you, I mean consider genuinely spending a lot of time with someone like yourself. Not just for sex or a once in a while kind of thing, but actually imagine having to deal with you on a daily basis. It's a question of personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:17 PM
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Respect it lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:14 PM
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Hey man maybe you're right. Maybe I, the 24 year old 5' 4" autistic biological dead end should just jump off a bridge because I can't change things I can't control. Shit, you probably do work out harder, are a harder worker, are funnier, cooler, and better at holding conversation. Take the words of a stranger online with a grain of salt, but I've done pretty good for myself so far. Guess you're losing to a pathetic loser like me huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:12 PM
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I hear you man, I get why a lot of guys have checked out of the dating scene, I haven't put myself out there in a while either cuz it's exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:44 AM
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When I was younger I had a rough time with people. As a coping strategy I forced myself into situations I hated and made me uncomfortable so I could learn how to never let myself get put in those places again. With dating I've made a fool of myself more times than I count, played stupid games, done stupid things, been hurt by people I cared about, and hurt them in return. I had to learn the very hard way how to have a proper relationship. The most important thing I've learned is that nothing is …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:42 AM
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Y'aint wrong, I'll admit. All I can say is, all we can do is improve ourselves for the diamond in the rough that might come our way some day. I'd rather put in that effort carving a statue out of myself, then that day to come and I'm not something anyone would want.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:34 AM
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Ay y'aint wrong, the options and odds aren't so great these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:30 AM
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Life isn’t fair. The whole thing is a fight. So fight. I respect and agree with that statement. Too many people are too content to sit around doing nothing, and then complain when life doesn't move mountains to give them everything they want. You have to ask yourself, "Would you date you?" And honestly, critically ask it of yourself. A lot of guys would never tolerate a person like themself, yet expect women to. If you want something of meaning in life you have to earn it. You don't deserve anyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:16 AM
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I feel like I need boxing gloves and painkillers whenever I open a thread in here. Not a nice environment for more sensitive topics unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:21 AM
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There's something in the water around here that's for sure. I respect this sub as an idea, that people will actually just say some crazy takes and fight about them, but that makes a pretty toxic place for more sensitive topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:06 AM
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I appreciate you taking the time to write this up. To the first two points, I definitely understand how there's a trade off between a pairing of two autistic people vs one NT and one ND. Two autistic people together might be able to communicate and understand each other's problems, but also be prone to explosive arguments and tension. Whereas like you said, the balance of having a neurotypical partner would provide much needed stability for either side. To the fourth, I have some open ended thou…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 02:58 AM
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Maybe I'm lucky but hasn't been the case for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 12:22 AM
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Y'ain't wrong, as a kid it definitely wasn't fun. Thing is though, people are stupid about so many things that I write off and ignore them for anyway, so what if height is another one of them. I don't wanna know em anyway if they're like that. Hell, it does the hard work for me, if only 5 out of 100 women are left that don't care about my height, those other 95 weren't worth it anyway. It says a lot about their personality. Makes my life easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:46 PM
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nahhh lmao I gotta go get a PhD and graduate to Dr. Autist
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:38 PM
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Yeah I think we're on the same page. I definitely agree in the dating world men justifiably venting frustrations are maliciously called entitled, when they're more expressing frustrations with dating as a whole. It does feel like "entitlement" is used to shut down the conversation to avoid adressing why so many men are feeling this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:54 PM
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Eh, if I listened to statistics, then I as a short autistic guy should be doomed. Take my anecdotal experiences with a grain of salt, but I've done pretty well for myself. I don't think reality is as bad as people think.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:39 PM
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I stand by what I said. No human deserves anything. I define entitlement and deserving as, expecting things to go the way you want, without putting in the effort to make it happen. Humans have the choice to use the tools within their reach to make the life they want, but nature doesn't dictate they have the right to succeed at it, only make the attempt. You aren't entitled to wealth, fame, material succes, you aren't deserving of anything, just because you were born. If, like you said, you want …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:34 PM
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Granted, that can be the case. Like I said, people only want to be wanted by those they find attractive. If they aren't yeah, it's a no-go
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:28 PM
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I agree it's usually pretty easy to tell when you've met another autistic person, but that's only a portion of all autistic people. Every case is different, and it never manifests the same, even if there are some commonalities. Sure, I can only speak on my experience. In that experience, I have met people that can mask and outwardly seem non-autistic very well. It's these people that, because they don't fit the most common "stereotype" of autistic, they get ostracised. That because they don't st…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:26 PM
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Lmao I've seen his stuff and I do find it hilarious, it's just at the end of the day we're pretty simple creatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:14 PM
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<3 Much love. It's disappointing seeing stuff like this, and I'm more than happy to potentially take heat for calling shit out
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:25 PM
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You have to see women as objects, things that don't think or feel, to actually believe that. Would you tolerate someone being "selfish" and "ruthless" around and to you? If you wanna take an extreme sure, you might be able to get away with one or two hookups being a "morally bad" person. I don't consider that a success, if you have to constantly chase the next hookup because no one wants to stay with you. This might be a shock to you, but women are humans too, and they think and feel just like m…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:22 PM
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If you think it's about putting up an act you're already not getting the point. Who you are as a human being, should be there. Not an act, who you genuinely are. It's not for anyone but yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:20 PM
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Lmao bruh if you think this is a sad thing I feel bad for you. Life gets a whole lot easier and happier when you realize you don't have to worry or care about shit you can't change.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:03 PM
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True, I think nuance is lost on a lot of guys and it's not just two extremes of good vs bad, and that the ideal is the middle
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:02 PM
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We made the laws, the laws can be taken away. Humans have existed for far longer without laws, than with them. You as a human being have no entitlement to anything, other than living.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:58 PM
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The difference between the two is in what you can actually guarantee. In an ideal world, sure I agree, everyone should have their basic needs met, but no one can force nature, life, society, to give them those things. entitled; believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment. I would have to disagree, because if you feel entitled when you earned something, you by definition believe you deserved that outcome. You don't. You can be proud of that success, and the wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:44 PM
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It's a matter of what you have control over in your life, and what you don't. As an analogy, take any sport for example. You want to win right? Well you can only control how much time you spend practicing, understanding the strategy, and how much effort you put in to train. Whether you actually win, isn't up to you, you have no control over fate, over other people's skill, or the circumstances of the event. You breach the line of acting entitled, when you expect to get things out of your control…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:09 PM
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Men and Women alike, want to feel wanted, by people they want. People are attracted to people they want to be wanted by. Specifically, people want to feel sexually desirable, by people they find sexually desirable. The whole "good guy" vs "bad boy" thing is missing the point and flies over a lot of heads. The "good guy" thinking he's being respectful, is really showing no signs of want or interest. The "bad boy" very clearly shows he's attracted to the person, and if a woman finds a guy attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:18 PM
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This seems to be a recurring problem about autistic people and the autistic community. We are not all the same. You have no right to speak on anyone else's experience. "When you've met one autistic person, you've met one autistic person" Every single one of us is different. You can not assume any other person's experience is in any way similar to your own. There might be some similarities, but the nature of the disorder manifests in so many different ways. So many autistic people are quick to di…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:54 PM
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Lmao maybe you right, I am lucky to be me
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:19 AM
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Damn bruh who hurt you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:14 AM
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I'm from the US but I'd agree it's probably better odds over there. Also would agree with the general idea that a slighty autistic average guy will have more opportunities than an average short guy. Just feels like some people think that short guys have literally no opportunities at all, which ain't the case. I've been with a couple women taller than me and fact is it goes both ways, I prefer women shorter than me. Can't get mad and blame women for doing the same thing. I'd say dating and romanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:26 PM
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It's really not even as big an issue as people make it out to be. It's a joke at this point to say just work on your personality, but no one wants to hear the fact it's the truth instead of blaming anything but themselves. I've been more than happy with my experiences. I seriously doubt I'm unnaturally attractive, so from my own experience being short isn't the death sentence some guys complain it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:39 PM
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I hear you man, I really do A lot of women are gonna look me over because I'm short. Why would I want to change their mind and try to convince them to give me a chance? In the end, it makes my life easier, because that's a portion of women I don't even have to consider and can move on and focus on those who might want to get to know me anyway. The same goes for being autistic. It might feel constricting that so many options might get filtered away against our control. Instead of 80 out of 100, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 09:13 PM
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Regardless of gender, assuming a scenario where one side has a lot of experience, and the other has none, there will need to be a lot of patience involved. That's just the nature of not knowing anything, for any skill. If we look at it as just a cold exchange (which it isn't, but for sake of argument), the side with no experience is inherently benefiting more, since they offer little, but are receiving a lot of knowledge and experience and learning. If you include emotions, things like anxiety, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 08:26 PM
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I always talk about kinks and what we're both into with a potential partner so I wouldn't be with anyone I'd be concerned about what she might be getting off to. All I'd care about is her saying "I get that you're not in the mood, I'm gonna go get myself off" I'd be mildly annoyed at worst if she didn't mention it. I once had a bad relationship where we had mismatched libidos and nothing is worse for mental health on both sides than trying to make it work when I or she isn't in the mood. Always …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 04:49 PM
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Approaching this with and olive branch of good faith, misplaced though it might be. I would consider myself fully in that category. Ma did most stuff for me as a kid, autistic, got an architecture degree, first girlfriend and all the firsts at 21. Respect to that first girlfriend, and the toxic and bad relationship that followed, because I had no idea how to have a proper relationship, and for putting up with me for so long. I personally don't date inexperienced women because I don't have the en…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 02:39 PM
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Never heard anyone else talk about it but you're a hundred percent right. When the vibes and energy are there playing the back and forth game beats out everything else to spend time doing. Half the time I don't even wanna go home with them, it's just a dopamine rush to engage in seeing where it could go.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:40 PM
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B. Respect to my first girlfriend who had to put up with my naive, inexperienced ass, and the many problems it caused in that relationship. Having had more experience and bad times since then, I just don't have the time to "teach" anyone else how to have a relationship. For option A, inexperience says she doesn't know what she wants in a relationship, and it's a rocky road to figure that shit out, it's complicated. I will not do the thinking for two people in a relationship. I want an equal, who…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:59 PM
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Nah. If you fall for multiple people at the same time you have unaddressed issues. It ain't "normal" in the definition of "standard; usual, typical, or expected" but it ain't weird either. It happens all the time, but if it happens take it as a sign you have to work on yourself. Can only speak for myself, I've never felt anything for people other than my partner at any time. Perhaps I'm the outlier and I'm the one that's not normal, but let's not pretend like everyone is doomed to a challenge of…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:29 PM
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My main disagreement is calling it "normal", in the definition of "standard; usual, typical, or expected" No, I don't believe it's expected or usual, but I don't think it's uncommon or that it's weird if it does happen. I've never felt anything for anyone but the person I'm with. Call me a liar. My big call out is, if you actually get strong feelings for multiple people, you have unaddressed issues and are immature. That's fine, but I wouldn't go around pretending like everyone is doomed to get …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:24 PM
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Was a scout, earned my eagle. Have an older sister who was a girl scout. That's where my perspective comes from. 12-18 year old boys, are hormonal, wild messes. 12-18 year old girls, are hormonal, wild messes. It is an undeniable fact that there is a different dynamic when young boys are to themselves, compared to when there are girls their age around. I will just flat out call a liar of anyone who thinks you can keep the same environment co-ed. As adults, sure, that's because we're adults, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:08 PM
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I was a former scout, earned my eagle, and always say the time I spent as one shaped a lot of who I am today. Boys need boy space. 12-18 year old boys are hormonal, wild, near-animals at times. They need their own space to get that out of their system. The same goes for adolescent girls, I have an older sister, and her stories of being a girl that age are not fun. This is the most volatile period of life for young people, and they need space to themselves. No one I know enjoys remembering middle…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:02 PM
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