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Field Reportbubblegummybear/r/seduction22/08/21 07:35 PM
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Surf instructor
/r/seduction10/02/24 01:14 AM
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Who's they? Lol weird
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 01:01 AM
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A good example in fiction are Harry Potter and Hermione Granger. Sure, some people may ship them and it is true that relationships ebb and flow, but anyone who has read the books understands their platonic love. They're not just friends, they're almost like siblings, but they're never like lovers. It's a fascinating type of relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:58 AM
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Romantic love and platonic love are different things. Platonic is often confused with "unattainable", but originally it is a form of non-carnal and almost spiritual love whereby two people feel an alignment in values with no expectation of a romantic involvement or pursuit for sexual or marital companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:56 AM
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I like Luke
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:51 AM
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Gender or sex? Gender, maybe occasionally I'd like to try picking up women as a hetero man. Sex, no. The female orgasm is incredible, bu I'd be interested in experiencing male climax once.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 07:44 PM
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Great times! Some guys were terrible, but most were good. Some outstanding! They helped me discover my sexuality and preferences. I'm now happy in a long term monogamous and horny relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 11:19 PM
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I don't think that the majority of men are aggressive. Men are capable of aggression just like women. Socially, I think men are conditioned to believe that showcasing aggression is expected of them to prove their masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 08:51 AM
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Lol hello love
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 08:17 AM
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Your tone is literally so insufferable and I can feel it. I'm so sorry but I'm gonna end my contribution here. Again, wishing you well but I've got no more time to waste on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:36 AM
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Why would I have to prove positive masculinity? It's just masculinity outside it's toxic forms. Manifesting normal levels of testosterone in adult males. What does "positive" masculinity mean to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:13 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:19 AM
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Toxic masculinity is a thing. I explained in previous comments. I didn't say masculinity in general is toxic. You need to relax and have a walk in the park.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:09 AM
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I never said masculinity itself is toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 07:59 AM
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I feel like you're also taking a lot of different personas and conflating them into "women". None of these examples to me seem simultaneously widespread in the majority of women's views. I understand there may be instances, e.g. the consent classes you talk about, but by no means is this a worldwide phenomenon. Women who write letters to murderers, do you consider that an average example of behaviour on women's part? Same with women not wanting men who've had sex with men. Where do you get these…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 11:02 PM
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Yes, when I'm ovulating :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 10:45 PM
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Literally just empathy. If you don't feel the same with her moods maybe it's worth talking to an emotional expert. It should be normal to feel empathy towards a SO.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 09:47 PM
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I love doing romantic things for my boyfriend but I do realise that from a young age I was conditioned by Hollywood and other media to believe that my inherent value as a woman lies in being romantically pursued by unrealistic-looking wealthy men. As a result of this indoctrination, many women feel that having a 50:50 pursuit or wholly pursuing men is a sign of the woman's lower value. Romantic pursuit is often equated to the donation of material assets ($$$), which is traditionally associated w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 09:40 PM
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I'd agree that in my relationship my male partner is super horny. I'm very horny too overall, but say 10 days before my period I just don't care and I get very lethargic. I'd be happy just cuddling him or a hot water bottle. So yeah, women's reproductive cycles are a big factor in our libidos.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 09:36 PM
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Bro what are you on about? What is "this"? Reflecting on reality isn't a political agenda, it's just an analysis of true facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 09:33 PM
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I think let it go...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 07:41 PM
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Bell Hooks, acclaimed writer and intellectual, wrote at length about feminism having the potential of universal anti-sexism. "As contemporary feminism progressed, as women realized that males were not the only group in our society who supported sexist thinking and behavior - that females could be sexist as well - anti-male sentiment no longer shaped the movement's consciousness. The focus shifted to an all-out effort to create gender justice. But women could not band together to further feminism…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 07:01 PM
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There isn't one feminist movement. I've studied feminism for several years but a quick Google will tell you that. So many people have invested themselves intellectually in a subject that combines biology, sociology, psychology, political science, economics. I think it's reductive for people to come on Reddit and talk about feminism as it's a homogeneous world view. Then again, 10-year-olds are online tweeting about how they're feminists so I understand the confusion. My advice is to do independe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 06:46 PM
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Do you base your entire view of feminism on social media? Of course, negative attitudes will always be the ones that echo most especially if you put yourself in an echo chamber or a community that only flags certain viewpoints. I've met so many feminists, all my friends are feminists. We love men, our friends, partners and family. We want the best for them. I also know many men who have been negatively affected by toxic gender norms and expectations. For example, growing up having to be "tough" …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 06:39 PM
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Well, I'm sorry you're hurt or frustrated, but saying I wouldn't take this mainstream is silly. I'm literally posting on a public subreddit. What can I do other than have my own message?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 06:31 PM
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I was responding to OP who wrote about men having to stop their violence against women. I made that statement broader to say that all violence should cease, I didn't say women aren't violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 06:30 PM
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Who said that? I feel sorry for you if you think machismo and repressed feelings equal masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 06:28 PM
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But I am here talking to you about men's welfare, and I am a feminist too...so, again, everyone is different and you're deflecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 01:01 PM
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Can you give me a few examples of how these feminists are seeking to "redefine" masculinity? I'm trying to understand better.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 12:55 PM
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I disagree, I think it's a necessity for all. Who do toxic masculinity, machismo, the repression of feelings and gender norms/stereotypes benefit? When you look at man on man violence, homophobia, men's higher suicide rates...I think you'll notice that the culture we've been relying on needs a reform.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 12:54 PM
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When you talk about "feminists", I think you're narrowing it down to your own idea of a feminist. There are specific issues that simply cannot be boiled down to egalitarianism. For example, reproductive rights cannot be based on equality, since men's and women's reproductive lives can be radically different. Hence, in those cases it is important to center rationales on specific experiences and not abstract concepts of equality. Does this make sense? Not trying to put down your perspective, rathe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 12:15 PM
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Men need to stop being violent not only towards women but towards other men. Most victims of violence by men are...men. Strength, power, self-assurance and assertiveness are all qualities that both men and women possess. Men may have more biological strength, from a purely anatomical point of view, which serves its purpose in the context of communities and division of labour. However, the notion of women as frail, subordinate and "weak" is one that has been orchestrated to limit our opportunitie…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 10:16 AM
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Lol, "hitting it". I think you watch too much porn dude.
/r/seduction06/08/22 07:52 AM
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Can you define feminism?
/r/seduction06/08/22 07:49 AM
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I think chemistry is about more than penetration or any sexual contact. For me, personally, I need that chemistry first. If that's there, then of course the sex is an enhancement of the experience.
/r/seduction06/08/22 12:11 AM
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Unfortunately, our society is founded on misogyny just as well as racism, ableism, ageism, classism...so taking a stand against this and identifying with a worldview is important. I think you may be ignorant about feminism, or maybe only learned about it through Twitter rants, so your perception is distorted.
/r/seduction05/08/22 10:45 PM
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Idk, if a guy is attractive I'll feel turned on and the tension will grow. If she loses interest after a few dates, she's just not into you, sex won't change that.
/r/seduction05/08/22 10:29 PM
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The average man is definitely as emotional as the average woman. Emotions are a broad range. Anger is an emotion. Men in our society tend to manifest a lot of emotion in many ways. They also hide to cry.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 01:35 AM
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If you think colonial warfare doesn't involve rape and cruelty, you're the one living in a fantasy world.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 07:05 AM
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You sound like you're ten.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:34 AM
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Interesting how you don't see the analogy between rape and violent conquest. Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 12:04 AM
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Bro, women wanna fuck too. We have condoms in 2022 and believe me when we ovulate we wanna fuck the world. Nothing to do with our men not being "enough". It's hormonal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 12:00 AM
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That's okay because the thing is no woman I know would want to be with someone like yourself. You're making it worse for your involuntary celibacy! Wish you luck in the future and that you find a loving partner. Focus on grooming and self-improvement. r/Seduction is a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 10:10 AM
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I'm a woman and I value those things. Stop acting like a little Incel cunt, it's the most unattractive thing ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 09:51 AM
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Sounds like you were abused by a woman. Sorry if that happened, it's not okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 09:50 AM
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You know so much. I bet you've never had a girlfriend and everyone you've ever liked has turned you down. It's not too late for you but your attitude is unattractive. I hope you like being alone!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 09:44 AM
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Oh so this has to do with women now? LOL. Cheers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 09:40 AM
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The feeling of love and oxytocin are one thing. Reciprocal love that is nurtured in an ongoing relationship is something much deeper and special. It's the ability to stay by another's side during the most challenging moments of life. It's also dreaming about the future, doing fun things and going on the journey that is life together. It sounds to me that because you've been let down, you're now bitter about love.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 11:38 PM
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Why doesn't love exist? You sound lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 10:53 PM
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Have you ever been in love? Lol, I feel sorry for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 09:36 PM
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Y'all need to stop acting like you are owed interest. It'll happen just chill with it.
/r/seduction31/12/21 12:34 AM
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A lot of cologne is actually disgusting to me. I prefer a man who wears daily deodorant and lets his own BO transpire. If you don't eat excessively spicy, and eat enough vegetables, you should smell okay. Too much cologne draws attention and if you're not THAT DUDE then maybe you wanna tune that down and attract women's attention differently.
/r/seduction30/12/21 09:05 PM
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A whole day of romantic activities is not what arouses women. Erogenous zone stimuli, soft play, touching, stroking, whispering and moaning usually do the trick. That's just me and my girls though!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:47 AM
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Huh? How can you generalise about single mothers? Everyone is different...this is why these discussions lead us in circles. Also, is this your own story or base on a study?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:42 AM
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I just think it's sad that some people are so miserable as to sink in the RP/FDS rabbit hole. I like to spend time online and use self-help but I'm fortunate that my life has more rewards and I don't adhere strictly to any one philosophy or worldview. There is truth in many corners of life, but radicalisation of a person is rarely a good sign.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:39 AM
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I've had casual sex and a lot of partners. I feel good about myself. I can only accept someone's judgment if they themselves don't and have never engaged in casual sex. Otherwise, men who call women sluts can die in a ditch. The word "slutty" is inappropriate. I have never sold sex, I do it for free because I love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:36 AM
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I think this isn't a question that can't be answered directly Men and women all gain and give different things based on who they are...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 08:06 PM
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As many places on Reddit. I just left the childfree sub today because of this reason. But you're not alone homie!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 07:04 PM
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I don't really care. I don't know how many sexual partners my boyfriend has had exactly. I know it's few and mainly from long term relationships he's had. I've been more casual with sex during times when I was single. I don't think he enjoys thinking of me with other men, neither do I seek to dwell on his past sexual encounters. But we enjoy our sex life so the past doesn't matter at all. I think people who do are mainly insecure..."what if they've had better?" I've never asked partners about th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 06:52 PM
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Move on
/r/seduction06/09/21 02:48 PM
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You can't be fun all the time. Just be yourself and I'm sure someone will think you're fun. Not everyone will think you are and that's okay.
/r/seduction01/09/21 10:01 PM
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Well, idk, do you like being around people who bore you?
/r/seduction01/09/21 11:13 AM
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Yeah, invite T but off the back of those texts it doesn't seem like she's interested beyond friendship.
/r/seduction30/08/21 01:26 PM
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Yeah, to be honest if I indulge then I lose interest in my boyfriend sexually for a few hours! Makes total sense. Maybe cut down and try the real thing!
/r/seduction29/08/21 08:11 PM
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28
/r/seduction29/08/21 07:56 PM
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The things you say sound creepy. Fresh bodies, what are you Hannibal?
/r/seduction29/08/21 07:38 PM
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...are you talking about rape? MODS. This isn't acceptable. Please report this comment. This should be a safe community not an incel shithole.
/r/seduction29/08/21 07:31 PM
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That is such a weird statement. They're not older, they're your age. Don't be a creep.
/r/seduction29/08/21 07:29 PM
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Date women your age and be spontaneous!
/r/seduction29/08/21 06:06 PM
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She wanted to be with her friend so you found other women. Keep doing that!
/r/seduction29/08/21 04:21 PM
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Okay but you have to move on now. If you go to the party, go there for the general company and you'll be okay. Stop overthinking it babe.
/r/seduction29/08/21 02:52 PM
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He's fun and doesn't wonder how to make people want to stay around him. He just does it.
/r/seduction29/08/21 02:50 PM
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Look, do what you want at the end of the day. It could be a chance to show you're not salty and can move on like a normal person. Clearly, she doesn't hate you to the point that she'd ask people to exclude you.
/r/seduction29/08/21 02:48 PM
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All I'm saying is it's not her party right? You just got invited. She's not going to kill you at the party. Other people will be there. Have fun!
/r/seduction29/08/21 02:46 PM
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I wish I could be a fly on the wall with guys in this group. I get it that some people struggle more socially but just go on and live your life. Imagine getting a divorce and having kids with a woman, what ya gonna do hide forever? Cut ties with all friends? Flee the country?
/r/seduction29/08/21 02:43 PM
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My god...this is just natural selection. Men who show their true shady colours overtly or covertly just don't get laid. You sound like a pain from this post and your comment. Your message to her was hella weird, I'd be so over a guy texting me that lol.
/r/seduction29/08/21 02:41 PM
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...what do you think?
/r/seduction29/08/21 02:37 PM
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Sometimes girls do that with guys they actually wouldn't hook up with. More like a teddy bear vibe, especially if they're physical in front of their boyfriends.
/r/seduction29/08/21 08:28 AM
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Just leave her alone...go home and think about why you need to approach someone who gives you clear indication of disinterest.
/r/seduction28/08/21 05:09 PM
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Idk like...I've had plenty of casual and committed sex without all the strategies I see on here. I don't understand how you can be spontaneous while actually planning things like this...
/r/seduction28/08/21 04:20 PM
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OP lies: writes bullshit assumptions about what women want OP truth: hates women
/r/seduction28/08/21 04:10 PM
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Do you really wanna lose your virginity to a stranger? Idk, in the long run maybe having had a more meaningful connection would be a better memory.
/r/seduction28/08/21 04:08 PM
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What's triangular gaze?!
/r/seduction28/08/21 04:07 PM
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I'm not really sure! Do you interact with other women who have reduced mobility? That might be easier just in terms of empathy and understanding. What kind of activities would you be able or interested in doi go with women you're dating? Maybe think of how one thing could lead to another, and the ideal settings for things to escalate.
/r/seduction28/08/21 03:57 PM
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Predatory, much? Feels like bordering date rape, this. Who tries to find way to have sex during a meeting that has a while other purpose? Surely if you both end up wanting sex, you'll know. I'm worried for some of y'all in this group. The angles you bring seem pretty sinister, and if that girl saw this post idk what she'd say...
/r/seduction28/08/21 03:51 PM
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If she likes you, she likes you.
/r/seduction28/08/21 02:32 PM
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Bipolar?
/r/seduction28/08/21 02:31 PM
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Yeah go for it, have fun!
/r/seduction26/08/21 05:06 PM
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I know but AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE seems legit unnecessary...you might find like a sister who's really interested in casual sex. Would that be too much if it was one person?
/r/seduction26/08/21 04:36 PM
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And I was just being salty, we good ❤️
/r/seduction26/08/21 04:26 PM
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Then why you here
/r/seduction26/08/21 04:03 PM
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I genuinely hate the term alpha. You're looking at it wrong.
/r/seduction26/08/21 11:54 AM
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I don't understand the thirst though. Do you think about hooking up all day or do you take breaks? Social media is for fun, it's virtual and no way to really know someone. Profiles are construed to appear our best selves, if not even fictional personas. Please don't rely on or use them for meeting new partners
/r/seduction26/08/21 09:47 AM
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Black white Puerto Rican Chinese boys
/r/seduction26/08/21 09:44 AM
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21 is young. It's legal but in terms of relationship, don't expect too much. Mature or not, 21 is a time of self discovery. People don't usually know what they want in life by that point.
/r/seduction26/08/21 05:58 AM
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Him: "Good people send nudes" Me:
/r/seduction26/08/21 05:55 AM
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Sometimes I check this sub and I'm like wtf.
/r/seduction26/08/21 05:50 AM
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"Hello, you're very beautiful, I wanted to come and tell you" - not a pickup line but just honest? Or, maybe "Hey, my name is [name], what's yours?" And try and have a conversation. The weather is always a relatable conversation. You just wanna get to know someone, there's no shame in that. Ultimately, when we learn to cope with rejection then we can take a shot at anything!
/r/seduction25/08/21 12:32 PM
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Well, if it's you it's you! I think most women with average to high IQ would find them a bit boring? Maybe it's better to ask something like "are you from around here?" or "hey, I've seen you a few times, do you come here often?". ​ Forget pick-up lines and learn ice breakers.
/r/seduction25/08/21 07:58 AM
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No, just be a person. Pickup lines don't work on me. Scripted, corny. Be yourself!
/r/seduction24/08/21 07:59 PM
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I'm deceased
/r/seduction24/08/21 04:42 PM
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I cringed at the initial stats, then died at "weekend doing pickup".
/r/seduction24/08/21 02:04 PM
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Athletic men and women are healthier people, cardiovascular health is also great, especially around breath control and therefore communication.
/r/seduction24/08/21 10:56 AM
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No, if a guy approaches me at the gym I know why. It's because of my body. It's only fair that the interaction will now be based on looks. It's an eye for an eye. So, avoid gym seduction unless you want to be evaluated for your looks.
/r/seduction23/08/21 10:15 PM
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I love making new friends. I have many male friends who are like brothers to me. I think in the past, I've given my friendship to men who then wanted to "turn me" or persistently escalate. That makes things more black and white for women who feel like they don't want to be the cause of their own suffering and annoyance.
/r/seduction23/08/21 07:21 PM
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I can see change, maybe not at my desired pace but it's coming. Places like this are helpful and unprecedented. I'm always open to discussion and frankly I've learned a lot. This subreddit has been largely a safe space for me to ask questions and give answers. I think true friendship and mutual respect is what's going to improve our society.
/r/seduction23/08/21 07:18 PM
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Sorry what can I say?! I specified "maybe". It's just human nature if you see someone that you find attractive. "Hot" is relative. I like Leo.
/r/seduction23/08/21 07:14 PM
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Young boys are often fixated on sex. And their testicles become their brains. There should be a point where sex isn't the main thought and you can do activities around attractive women without needing to pursue them.
/r/seduction23/08/21 10:20 AM
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Hmm, he'd have to look like Wolf of Wall Street DiCaprio to nail that. Or a young Will Smith. Seriously, if the guy was that hot and I was single, I'd maybe consider giving him my number. But a gym exchange is purely based on looks, so I wouldn't feel that this man is interested in me. He's been watching my ass and that's it.
/r/seduction23/08/21 10:18 AM
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"We know girls by nature are submissive and they prefer to be that way". ​ Sounds like you've got it all figured out!
/r/seduction23/08/21 09:41 AM
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You find someone who will f*** out of pity...or work on loving yourself.
/r/seduction23/08/21 09:40 AM
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Either/or.
/r/seduction23/08/21 09:38 AM
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As a woman who goes to the gym, you're looking for a very specific type of woman if you think she'd want to interrupt her workout to talk to you. Gym for me is off-limits, go out.
/r/seduction23/08/21 09:38 AM
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Those aren't hints, everyone likes pictures of people. The recipient would have to reciprocate in order to read that as "they like me".
/r/seduction23/08/21 09:36 AM
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She's done, move on. This happens, sometimes people just go through a phase. And don't call women "exotic".
/r/seduction23/08/21 09:35 AM
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I once went on a date with this incredibly charming, intellectual Black guy. I thought, wow, such compatibility. Turned out he had a micropenis. He gave great head though. Just saying!
/r/seduction23/08/21 09:32 AM
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Sorry for adding the wrong flair! Thanks for your response.
/r/seduction23/08/21 07:18 AM
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Let's just say it's a Mediterranean country. The culture of machismo and patriarchal dynamics here are a lot. But I experience this in England too.
/r/seduction23/08/21 07:11 AM
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Maybe she has a shit day, maybe it's premenstrual syndrome. Women's bodies and mind evolve with cycles. Some women are deeply affected. I sometimes turn even on my friends and family. You could be straightforward and say something like "I notice you're more withdrawn today, is everything okay? Are you having a good time? If you prefer, we could call it a day and hang out some other time". Sometimes being a friend is what's needed in these situations.
/r/seduction23/08/21 07:09 AM
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I did giggle at your last sentence. I think more hookups should start this way. Personally, I am very forward with men I'm into, so that's why I get frustrated when guys feel they need to be chasing me.
/r/seduction23/08/21 06:20 AM
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I didn't know
/r/seduction23/08/21 06:19 AM
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Yup, I understand. It's really sad that this is the state of affairs. If I ever have a son, I'll make sure he knows his feelings matter, that it's okay to be sensitive and that his masculinity is unconditional.
/r/seduction23/08/21 06:18 AM
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Daaamn right!
/r/seduction23/08/21 06:15 AM
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Yeah, I'm a pretty strong personality and very vocal as well as educated. Sometimes, with all that goes on in the world, I don't wanna confront a guy who I already think has little emotional intelligence. Some men in the past have acted so hurt or offended, or even turned violent from being harshly rejected.
/r/seduction23/08/21 06:10 AM
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This is in Europe! I'd say it's men 20-45 yo.
/r/seduction23/08/21 06:06 AM
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Thanks for your response! It's really insightful. I hope that especially for the guys in this sub that this post helps to not consolidate any toxic thinking about how to get with women.
/r/seduction23/08/21 06:02 AM
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I used to be like that too. But also I enjoy time by myself, it's a comfort zone!
/r/seduction23/08/21 05:56 AM
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That's part of reshaping our culture around consent, learning as girls that we are agents and we should give consent in unequivocal ways. You don't know what it's like to grow up as a girl. I hear a lot of complaining about what growing up as a young boy is like, and trust me I do understand because I viewed it in action. But growing up as a young girl is an experience that's full of gaslighting. Being openly or covertly raised as "the second sex" that's ancillary to men teaches young girls to s…
/r/seduction23/08/21 05:55 AM
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Sure, I'll lock myself home and not enjoy the sunshine or my life for that matter.
/r/seduction23/08/21 05:50 AM
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It's usually a combo of all three. Sorry but if I rock up to anyone and they don't even engage with me being present, I have enough self-respect to leave.
/r/seduction23/08/21 05:49 AM
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Lol salty
/r/seduction23/08/21 05:48 AM
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Great!
/r/seduction23/08/21 05:45 AM
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Sorry I don't mean to complain. Now I understand the context of this sub, and it's community. I like sensitive men. The only two guys I exchanged contacts with were the ones who seemed really receptive and respectful. My boyfriend is a sensitive guy. He pursued me but also asked me about my feelings. I think the problem with dating culture is the whole covert "decipher this and that" vibe. We should just learn to communicate: "do you feel attracted to me?", "are you into this?", "can I do that?"…
/r/seduction23/08/21 05:44 AM
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Yes, I try to let them know. Some people in general don't understand that you can have a good time alone, and not be lonely. I think some guys see a woman alone and identify a necessary gap to slot themselves in. Many people still need to catch up to the times we live in, in Europe.
/r/seduction23/08/21 05:40 AM
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I know, it's so boring when a guy goes to someone he knows is a "conventionally beautiful" woman and says to her "you're so beautiful" as if she just left her cocoon and was waiting for this one guy to say it.
/r/seduction23/08/21 05:37 AM
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The persistence here is qualified by the fact I said no. I'm not saying to generally not be persistent. Some women enjoy being chased. If they say they don't, don't assume they don't know what they want. Walk away, if she's really covertly interested and knows you're interested, she'll follow up.
/r/seduction23/08/21 05:35 AM
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And you're so hot.
/r/seduction23/08/21 05:33 AM
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Yeah of course. We get lied to from such a young age and it creates all sorts of confusion when reality doesn't match expectation. That women are uninterested in sex is such bullshit, really. And it creates confusion for girls who find themselves interested in sex and don't engage with their sexuality. Because of this, it took me longer to learn about my sexual preferences and desires. I'd let guys "do sex" to me as opposed to being an equal in sexual interactions, this is specifically in relati…
/r/seduction23/08/21 05:32 AM
4

Nooo hahaha
/r/seduction23/08/21 12:17 AM
3

I'll check the book out, think I heard of it before! Thanks for sharing 🙂
/r/seduction22/08/21 11:54 PM
2

ikr
/r/seduction22/08/21 11:41 PM
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I can tell you to your face, what more do you want? Not everyone believes in the institution of marriage. I personally don't. My partner didn't really have to persist, we just met and went for a meal after lmao. It's chemistry, sometimes it happens!
/r/seduction22/08/21 11:37 PM
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If you read the post, this whole thread is about me saying "no" and being ignored multiple times. If you were in my position, wouldn't you feel objectified? i.e. treated as though you are not a subject, but an object of desire - and that desire is the focus of the interaction.
/r/seduction22/08/21 11:34 PM
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it really wasn't intended a such.
/r/seduction22/08/21 11:33 PM
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I believe masculine traits are fully compatible with consent. Men issue consent, men may be coerced, men are also victims of sexual assault. Different cultures teach different versions of masculinity. BUT sexual dynamics are not grey. Healthy sexual dynamics are clear when aided by communication. I don't think spring break is a good platform for the analysis of healthy, fully informed sexual relationships? I might be wrong.
/r/seduction22/08/21 11:32 PM
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That sounds interesting! From the experience that I recount in this post, I can say these are the common traits of the two guys to who I spent some time chatting: - Good listening skills - Appropriate distancing when interacting - Kindly asked for my contact details - NO CATCALLING (gosh, guys who think they can whistle their way to a woman!) - Deffo well-groomed, not a specific "type"
/r/seduction22/08/21 11:28 PM
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I think we should teach young girls that it's okay to have agency, to know what you want instead of having someone walk you through it. We should teach young boys that consent is important, that everyone has choices and that rejection is okay.
/r/seduction22/08/21 11:20 PM
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What are "average looking men"?
/r/seduction22/08/21 11:17 PM
1

rape culture in a nutshell
/r/seduction22/08/21 11:10 PM
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Idk though. I grew up in Europe, been to various countries and have female friends all over. Pretty much all my friends make or have made moves on men. I don't think men need to constantly approach to have sexual access to women. And, by the way, "sexual access" sounds rather odd. People have chemistry and they move forward together. It's not like a one-way thing.
/r/seduction22/08/21 11:06 PM
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Yes, sorry I never meant "all men", but implied "some". I should have specified in the title!
/r/seduction22/08/21 11:04 PM
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it's a thread title. the post specifies the situation.
/r/seduction22/08/21 11:03 PM
0

Hahaha, swoosh
/r/seduction22/08/21 11:02 PM
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lol
/r/seduction22/08/21 10:44 PM
3

Makes sense too!
/r/seduction22/08/21 10:44 PM
1

Hollywood romance movies: - She's so hard to get, seems uninterested - Stalk her, do random things for her, obsess over her - Oh, now she sees, you're so special because you really want her - Happily ever after, she was turned!
/r/seduction22/08/21 10:34 PM
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I'm done xD
/r/seduction22/08/21 10:32 PM
3

I'm not asking why men talk to women. I'm asking why some men don't understand consent and boundaries. Hope that clarifies!
/r/seduction22/08/21 09:49 PM
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I'M GAGGING AT THE BATTLE ROYALE ANALOGY I'M DEADDDD 1V1 I wish you could hear my inner scream 🤣 that's so funny!
/r/seduction22/08/21 09:45 PM
2

That's true! I will bear that in mind.
/r/seduction22/08/21 09:42 PM
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You'll be alright. I hope you find the one, but also men are fertile for a long time too. In your 20s, don't worry you e got plenty of time. Times are changing too, most people wanna run away from kids until 40 these days. Think of all the experiences you can have solo and with your friends too. Life can be good in many ways, while you wait for other things to manifest. I hope you get what you want!
/r/seduction22/08/21 09:27 PM
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"A delicate waltz in perplexity". Literacy 😻 Thanks for showing empathy. I often hear women say stuff like "men are idiots" and so forth, based on their experiences, and it kinda makes me sad cause I don't like thinking that way. I really wanna give every person a chance to define themselves. It's like when someone says "women care about looks" or "women care about status", "women are dumb". It's just hurtful.
/r/seduction22/08/21 09:19 PM
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I guess that's it! What's "better" than being accepted, respected and understood? Maybe not everybody wants that, but that's what partnerships are built on, not silly rankings.
/r/seduction22/08/21 09:11 PM
5

Thanks for sharing, I appreciate it! I dunno, it's hard. I can only speak on my behalf, I don't know all women. I don't think anyone can be described by a blanket statement. I hope you meet your match, someone who accepts you for who you are, with or without the bunch of nerves!
/r/seduction22/08/21 09:08 PM
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My boyfriend and I have interests in common. We have fun doing things together. Yes, there's physical attraction but there are arguably "more attractive, more affluent" men that I wouldn't touch with someone else's vagina haha.
/r/seduction22/08/21 09:06 PM
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Yes, that's the difference. A lot of apologetic arguments insist on nature and ignore nurture. This self-fulfilling prophecy of the biological male makes it virtually impossible to evolve our culture. The "boys will be boys" is a mantra that we are brainwashed with at a very young age. There's no telling where nature ends and culture begins, or how they reinforce each other.
/r/seduction22/08/21 09:02 PM
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Hey, thanks for all the replies! It's been really enlightening. Constructive conversation is how to avoid these awkward encounters!
/r/seduction22/08/21 08:56 PM
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Yeah totally...I can see that often, like I know he thinks what he's doing is good, he believes it. But... https://youtu.be/yCC_b5WHLX0
/r/seduction22/08/21 08:52 PM
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Aw, that was well put. I guess it's hard for me to see cause I've also dated non-conventionally "attractive" men so I don't see the looks thing as a big deal. A lot of my girlfriends don't care very much about a guy's looks but more about his demeanor. The self-declared "ugly guy" playing the numbers game desperately and overcompensating often shoots himself in the foot, going on the obsessive journey when sometimes confidently casual interactions are the ones that win. I should add, however, th…
/r/seduction22/08/21 08:50 PM
0

I can see that! Thanks for the comment. It's definitely true. Do you think that reshaping our culture around consent would help? Do most men at this evolutionary stage have the capacity to control impulse?
/r/seduction22/08/21 08:46 PM
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Tostestoreno.
/r/seduction22/08/21 08:43 PM
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Yes exactly. I'm aware that men are often drawn to my appearance but I was focusing on the interactions.
/r/seduction22/08/21 08:42 PM
2

Thanks for the advice!
/r/seduction22/08/21 08:38 PM
4

That's super aggro...you don't know me at all, and you weren't there so huh?
/r/seduction22/08/21 08:37 PM
0

...I dunno though, I think the message is wrong. But thanks for sharing nonetheless, can be cute sometimes I guess.
/r/seduction22/08/21 08:36 PM
4

Are you saying we should castrate males?! Nah, I understand! Wish there was a way to balance it all out. I do try to engage them in constructive conversation. Today someone insisted they'd sit next to me while I was sunbathing "so they (the other men) will see me and respect you". I had to disagree.
/r/seduction22/08/21 08:34 PM
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Maintain social distancing lmao
/r/seduction22/08/21 08:24 PM
2

Idk, I think this is a very narrow way of defining men and women. Almost textbook, but who wrote it? All men and women can and do behave differently. I think it depends more on societal and personal culture.
/r/seduction22/08/21 08:21 PM
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Yeah but not never. If a guy doesn't respect an explicit statement (as opposed to a more generic cue) then I'd worry about his perception of reality.
/r/seduction22/08/21 08:18 PM
3

How is it being rude? I just put mortified emojis out of empathy.
/r/seduction22/08/21 08:18 PM
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No, it annoys me. It makes me feel objectified. Maybe two guys respected my boundaries, and that's when I can respect a man in return.
/r/seduction22/08/21 08:17 PM
3

Yeah like, enjoy your day! Don't make it about this one stranger lol.
/r/seduction22/08/21 08:15 PM
8

It's an interesting one. Evolution is also adaptation and I just can't limit my thinking of relationships to that...in such an evolved world made of super fast communication via the internet. It's like...catch up FFS!
/r/seduction22/08/21 08:14 PM
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Sorry to hear that, at least you're considerate. For me personally, here are my hints: I'm doing something else while he is talking to me I don't make eye contact I continue my activity I say something that sounds like goodbye I tell him I'm not interested (the ones who continue after this one will never have a chance with me)
/r/seduction22/08/21 08:12 PM
13

Uhm, I can appreciate men lying almost naked too. I could even approach one but then I'd register what they're saying to me and modify my behaviour? Feels sad when men are reduced to unintellectual animals just because we have hormones, most people are sexual beings not just men.
/r/seduction22/08/21 08:10 PM
3

Funny cause I met my boyfriend when I asked him for a lighter, we clicked. "EVER" seems pretty extreme and a bit incel style to me.
/r/seduction22/08/21 08:08 PM
4

Yeah I like talking to guys too. Even though I'm in a monogamous relationship, everyone's got attraction floating. A guy can be handsome and appealing, and we can have a nice chat and establish a purely platonic vibe. However, this usually doesn't happen if he's going a bit too hard or desperate with a goal in mind.
/r/seduction22/08/21 08:02 PM
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🥺😥😢
/r/seduction22/08/21 07:59 PM
5

Hahaha, smooth, I did check myself out and I cannot blame them. Just wonder about their psyche.
/r/seduction22/08/21 07:53 PM
9

A bad job at listening? 😆
/r/seduction22/08/21 07:43 PM
2

Ah, I will do!
/r/seduction22/08/21 07:41 PM
6

Lemonade gals, I wouldn't resist!
/r/seduction22/08/21 07:41 PM
1

Sometimes people take time to respond. If they have a life, that is. I wouldn't take that as a sign they're not interested unless you're thirsty as hell waiting by the phone.
/r/seduction22/08/21 07:39 PM
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