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There's something called matching energy. It's how you connect with people, or identify if they're connecting to you. This woman went out of her way to ask YOU something. To involve YOU. She may have been looking for genuine friendship or she may have had 😏 other interests. Next time you speak to someone ask yourself why would they be doing this? What are they projecting through their behaviour? What is the reason they have for coming to me? It's an attempt to understand the world from their per…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 12:20 AM
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Honestly I agree with you man. All the gay men who came out gay when I was growing up were just undesired. I think other gay men and being gay became an outlet for them to exercise their sexual desires without being judged. Women seem like princesses and you wouldn't ever tell a princess you wanna lay her down and ravage her so they were shut in nice guys. But with the Boys they could be themselves, sexual, etc. and so they felt heard with the gays and became gay. Basically they just gave up com…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 12:04 AM
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Every woman I have dated has been a codependent anxious mess that I had to fix through hundreds upon hundreds of hours of lectures on mental health training, emotion handling, self awareness, emotional intelligence. You have to undo the Disney programming, set proper boundaries, and teach them how to be an adult. It's honestly exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:59 PM
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But that's fallicious in nature. You are attributing what people say to be the red pill but the red pill is well defined under the pillars of looks, status, game. Those people can say non red pill things in a red pill space and they can also say wrong things in a red pill space. What you are doing is basically the equivalent of saying "because Andrew Tate is a mysogynist and Andrew Tate says red pill things, then the red pill is mysogynistic" It's a complete failure in critical thinking but it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:24 PM
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Or women thinking by spreading their legs they can get a man of value. It's their naive nature that lets them run headfirst into heartbreak. Women choose first. They keep choosing heartbreak
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 07:58 PM
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Uhhhh that sounds more like toxic masculinity What do those three things have to do will the three pillars of the red pill which are looks, status, and game?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 07:46 PM
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And how are those red pill? Other than you have associated it with red pill yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 07:35 PM
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It's not 1/4. You can google percentage of men and women who succeeded in reproducing over history. He's incorrectly quoting a study that demonstrated through DNA that over 60 percent of males failed to reproduce and over 80 percent of women succeeded. He also misattributes the entire argument to be about dating and attraction. However lots of these male deaths were because of war, conflict, poor working conditions, drugs and alcohol, etc. Statistically however there are 107 men to every 100 wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 07:11 PM
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Are you talking about black pill or something? The red pill is an optimistic view. How attractive you are is in your control. Your status in society is in your control. Your ability to seduce people is in your control. The entire of basis of your thread fundamentally misrepresents the red pill. The red pill is optimistic, it's the black pill that's the doomer you can't change that's how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 07:06 PM
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Our biology is not negotiable
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 03:09 PM
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You can't deny the observation on the whole. The observation on the whole group is not wrong because individuals do not reflect the whole. That is utilizing the exception makes the rule fallacy to dismiss the argument in an irrational way
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:49 PM
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Stating a fact about women's behavior is not mysogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:46 PM
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Those are your words not mine. Men fucking women is not relevant lmao Yup, delulu
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:45 PM
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Say why. You can't
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:31 PM
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None of that is mysogynistic. A truth about women being attracted to rich and powerful men is not news to anyone. just because it's about women doesn't make it mysogynistic. Women do overwhelmingly go after rich men. Have you ever seen women at a Jonas Brothers concert? That is true lust and desire
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:26 PM
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Yes but the lineup of women who aren't you will happily take your place. These are also the same women who make up sexual assault because they feel shame over letting a billionaire give them a cream pie
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:21 PM
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Are you trying to say the measured importance a particular trait has in the mate selection process is not accurate or something? It sounds like you don't understand statistics. An individual might behave differently but the whole acts in this way and that is relevant. Please do not use the exceptio makes the rule fallacy it makes you look delulu Just because you don't like what psychologists found doesn't make it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:12 PM
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Point to what was mysogynistic
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:09 PM
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I have a source for that it's not wrong. Dataclysm who we are when no one is looking Women choose first lady. The data literally shows men are fair and women are not. You are delulu
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:08 PM
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Actually men show interest linearly according to attractiveness percentile and are more fair in regards to what they can get. They do however shoot their shot at beautiful women which is an exception. It's only at the high percentiles that they kinda get delusional, but you can't hate the guy for trying. At least in men's case they will consider individuals their level and show interest in a linear way across all percentiles. This is not seen in women. Given sexual selection they only show inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:07 AM
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Because women fuck rich men. Only idiots buy that garbage. You are right she is graded on a different scale because she's not a rich men who has had women spreading their legs for a chance of the life he can give or a piece of the pie for a cream pie. No one seriously buys the me too movement garbage accusations. It's like sorry you fucked Donald Trump because he was rich don't go crying to the public because you saw dollars and spread your legs Like honestly women would even swarm Andrew Tate. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:57 AM
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It's only ever your turn. Personally I am a competitor so I don't mind having to create the best island in view. However I understand why weak men don't want to compete and look at women negatively for their desire to seek the best mate they can according to the traits they find desirable. With the red pill comes understanding of what women find attractive, so you can't really be mad that they operate exactly like their programming dictates. That's like being mad at a cat for being a cat and doi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 01:08 AM
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Great advice. When blue pilled men try the red pill they always find out that it's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 01:04 AM
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Except psychologists have measured the exact R value that education has on attractiveness and it's non zero You think you don't care because you don't want to look shallow but really you do care and psychologists have proven it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:52 AM
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Psychology studies state the opposite actually. The dumper will have it easier first but will always live with the guilt and what if. The dumpee has no choice so moves on more easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 10:53 PM
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Actually it does matter
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 10:52 PM
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Agreed life is what you make of it. What you put in you get out tenfold. It's compound interest So go read the book she comes first, open her, watch Caitlyn v on YouTube for technique and sex advice, read the art of seduction, then go get yourself a pretty good girl and cum on her titties. become the man she has been dying to meet since she was a teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 03:58 PM
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Yep it's a bit difficult of a pill to accept initially but as someone who had little experience with women going into it blind I got to see women's behavior without bias. You end up in very short order validating every single thing the red pill teaches about women's behavior. And you just laugh at women here trying to save face for their gender. You laugh because of the complete lack of self awareness. I've debated several women here and I think I got every single one to describe their husbands.…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 02:22 PM
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This is why it's so hard for men who are behind. Women's expectations keep going up, and men who never got a chance and don't even know the expectations have to figure it out. Imagine a turbo virgin at 30 trying to please a woman in bed whom has been having sex for 15 years. As a former turbo virgin I did everything I could from books to pornhub guides and I made it happen and plowed the shit out of women. But that's after hundreds of hours of research on how to do everything. Most men won't do …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 08:18 PM
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None of that disproves hypergamy. So you just posted random adjacent anti incel garbage The R values for every trait are well studied in norman li's work. Women do seek better partners than themselves it's not arguable. Women seek better and settle associatively if their environment cannot satisfy their hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:15 PM
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None of that has anything to do with hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:08 PM
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Fyi that AI generated video starts off wrong. It starts with saying these men have a victim mindset. That's not red pill. Red pill is an optimistic mindset. It's the black pill which is pessimistic (and that's why black pill isn't allowed here). The red pill is about men's self improvement, being the best you can be. You can improve your appearance, you can improve your status, you can improve your game. None of that is a victim mindset. Women like to come here and say these men are playing vict…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 06:55 PM
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It's a mind fuck, but it's the truth. The guys you shit on are actually the good ones confused with their identity. The guys women go after have already accepted the red pill and implemented it into their lives. So the bad ones get rewarded and the good ones who do not game attraction lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 05:58 PM
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I provided a quote
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 05:57 PM
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Indeed! Most successful men are red pilled. Most men women go for are red pilled. Red pill is just a blueprint for being attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 05:57 PM
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What's peak irony is that women will go on the internet, like Reddit, shit on incels and then go fuck a red pilled dude because he is attractive for the reasons the red pill teaches. So they prevent more men from becoming attractive to them by gaslighting and shaming them, then go and reward those who embody what they shame incels for advocating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 05:04 PM
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Yes it does. Go read the full text. It clearly states women's natural hypergamy when unsatisfied by the environment results in associative. They settle. There is also a lot of research elsewhere on this cycle. The assortative hypergamy mating cycle is well studied Generalizing is not hatred, that's some cooky illogical shit
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 04:42 PM
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They're actually the ones dating and already married to women... Almost all of the men I grew up with got red pilled 10 years ago and are all married. I held out and then finally caved and all my women issues went away The red pill as it relates to dating is looks status and game. By definition any man who is fit and at least takes care of his appearance, has a good career, and has social prowess is by definition red pilled
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 04:40 PM
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It's in the OG as an edit Stating facts about women's behavior is not hatred. Do not be manipulative. There is no hatred, in fact I love women and have been very successful with them Fyi by making statements like that you just validate the red pill which talks about how socially manipulative women are. You are trying to frame me as someone who hates women but the fact is I don't and I know your game. Your opinion of my views is not relevant to the discussion so please stay on topic
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 04:26 PM
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Start there. Google hypergamy studies on your own time and educate yourself before conversing on a topic you are ignorant about. Hypergamy is not negotiable. It's well studied. Since you have a problem starting there I advise you to fix that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 04:04 PM
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What does what you said relate to what I said in any way. I spoke only to you saying disprove 80 20. I have no desire to speak to op. I felt what you said was logically wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 03:22 PM
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It does not disprove. Matching associatively at the finish line does not mean that women did not match by hypergamy during the race. In fact as women learn their value and or learn their environment they drop their standards and end up more associative. Go read a study on the associative and hypergamy mating cycle. The issue men have is the journey to equal, that leaves a lot of men lonely In the age of social media because women start so delusional about what they can get. They finally have the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 02:33 PM
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You have confused sex with many partners (what men don't like) with experience with sex (which you can get with a single partner or even none at all). Having sex with many partners is not a good look when you want to be considered for a LTR. Being good in the sheets is a good thing. It shows you are confident in being a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:22 PM
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Dating app data shows that men show interest in women linearly according to their attractiveness percentile Women only engage with men in realistically the top 10 percentile. Though people in the top twenty are engaged just at much lower rates. The bottom 80 percentile are for all intents and purposes not considered. /Thread
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:00 PM
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You forget that the red pill is not just money... It's looks status game. Max your looks in all areas. Max your status. Max your game. Being a seduction rock star is how you get her to tingle. You say it's pointless but myself as a turbo virgin until 30 I now have a partner whom I fucked the daylights out of in the morning and then she fucked my brains out in the evening. No sex for my entire life and now it's something I get to partake in, as well as enjoying my life with someone whom makes me …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 04:07 PM
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I would bring truths as proven through psychology and through studies into public education. People need to know how people behave so that they learn the rules of the game being played. A lot of issues arise because this knowledge is taboo. This allows those in the know to take advantage of their knowledge and benefit whilst also preventing others from gaining this knowledge. We would all be better off if everyone knew the game and accepted who we are as humans, men, and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 04:02 PM
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Honesty and openness builds connection. Weakness builds resentment. There is a difference
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 03:24 PM
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Norman Li studied the differences between north America and Singapore in terms of mate selection. It turns out Asian women would value status and ability to provide to a much higher degree than western women, and western women would value attractiveness much higher than status. So it actually depends where the woman was raised and by whom. Both are actually correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 04:23 PM
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Actually your problems with the thesis are actually happening. There is a lot of red pilled dudes and they are fucking all the women. The 65 percent of males who are effectively incels (single) aren't red pilled and aren't competing. The red pill has fundamentally made the average dude a sexless incel because those who are red pilled get all the sex and those that are too blue pilled to accept the red pill go sexless. The dating landscape is fucked up. I've seen all my female friends I grew up w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:06 PM
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What is spinning plates or multi dating have to do with looks money and game (social skills)? Why are you lumping the behaviors of some men who are red pilled who date multiple women with the red pill??
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:31 PM
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Yes but you assume duping because you are biased. Acknowledging looks money and game has nothing to do with being a good or bad person. In fact it has everything to do with critical thinking and intelligence which is more closely associated with being higher on the emotional intelligence scale and subsequently being a good person. I agree that someone knowing seduction could be a good or bad person the skill is independent. What I disagree with is your assumptions that these are bad people. In f…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:06 PM
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What about the red pill says women don't have those things? What does looks status and game even have to do with women's independence or individuality
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:08 PM
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Hmm I guess I don't see how the likes of F&F became the red pill. The red pill never changed and it feels like to me people are taking what people who say red pill things say that aren't red pill as the red pill. To me the red pill will and always be looks money game.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:07 PM
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So why are you no pill if you effectively followed the red pill? At least the looks pillar Edit: btw I see where I got it wrong thank you for clarifying
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:53 PM
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The quote I said is the basis for the status and money part of the red pill. Both of those contribute to your islands quality But yes 😂 once you hear the quote you go "motherfucker is so right how did I not see that"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:00 PM
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Why are you purple pilled 😂 I agree btw
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:59 PM
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Do you think you have bad genetics? I ask because I was invisible for years. Couldn't get a date. I started bouldering (climbing) for a year. Lost 40 lb. Started weight lifting for 6 months. Updated my photos and had 8 dates scheduled within two weeks of updating my photos. This was after 10 years of being unable to get a date. The girls were then throwing their vaginas at me to lock me down. Do you think you cannot become more attractive (black pill) or do you think you can but just have not tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:57 PM
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They know how important every single possible trait and personality indicator affects mate selection. It's not negotiable The R value is the ratio of importance a trait hascompared to other traits. They have this data for short term prospects and long term. This is why the red pill cannot be argued against. You are arguing against the scientific method and look like an idiot who 🙈🙉 They can calculate a person's SMV and give them a number and that will dictate the mates they can attract. There ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:51 PM
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I think you misread those men's statements. Those men are effectively talking about indirect displays of value. A man who does not do something for a woman indirectly says he is of higher value. This is actually a trigger for attraction. It creates desire, the spark. So within seduction it is a strategy. And it does work - these men aren't wrong. It's like teasing. This hits the brotherly/fatherly love dynamic which women look for in male partners. It engages the man to woman dynamic versus need…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:27 PM
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Women tend not to know their value when they are young. Over time couples tend to mate associatively (their equals) but that leaves a trail of hurt people either above or below. It's sad but normal. The 10 dating a 5 doesn't last long once the 10 learns their value Men will find they have better quality relationships if they date down. It's a valid strategy and I suggest you try it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:20 PM
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Have you had a lot of physical touch? The first girl to give me a blowie I couldn't even drive straight. Oxytocin hits really really hard if you aren't used to it. My partner and I both become zonked out after sexy times. We're content low energy and just zonked.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:19 PM
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Women actually chase. It's a misnomer that men do. The red pill teaches men to be so much better than your desired mate that you blow past her. The only thing she can do is start running after you blinded by the cloud of dust you leave in your wake. When you become high value you see it. A man who hasn't got there won't understand
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:11 PM
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Why would we order these ourselves? Psychologists have determined experimentally the R value for every trait. What a silly question
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:03 PM
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Women are like boats and men are like islands. If there is a better island in view why wouldn't a woman navigate to that island instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:02 PM
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An alpha widow is a woman who had the opportunity to date a high value man but was ultimately rejected. Studies have shown that when a woman is rejected by a high value man she actually becomes less likely to accept advances from a lower value male and is actually more likely to be harsher in her rejection. Effectively this woman thinks she can compete at the higher level but doesn't realize that the high value man probably just used her for sex and had no intention of ever committing to her. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 02:58 PM
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Agreed! They're also insecure and don't know their body however
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 02:42 PM
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Who says it's tricking? Seduction is a skill. Some men learned it through practice and others through books / YouTube / red pill Women want to be seduced - they want the romance. I dont understand your problem. You assume bad intent but that's not true?? Probably because you are biased against the red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 02:38 PM
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I agree. So does my partner. But a woman without kids may be more willing to get with a man who has a good life for himself and his child than a man would be to cuck himself. So the actual we question is how much does each gender care and how much does that influence their mate selection. I do not agree it's the same because no other trait in partners has the same R value between the genders. This is something you could probably look up in a table in one of Norman Li's studies though
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:47 PM
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Duping? Women willingly only go for men who are red pilled. It's not duping if it's what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:29 PM
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Yes more reactive. And most women do not know that 2/3 of them have responsive desire. So they say no before they get aroused and want to say yes 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 04:04 PM
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Can you describe what codependency is?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 03:10 PM
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Explain? Attractiveness having lower weights than status for long term does not mean the minimum looks go down. You are actually mentally challenged. Both the minimum can go up and attractiveness be less important that other attributes when compared to short term. They are not mutually exclusive because it's not zero sum. Please learn some critical thinking The study I quoted found exactly that all standards go up and the weights shift. They looked precisely at hookups vs long term selection. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 06:15 PM
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This is not true. Women are actually less likely to go after a less attractive man when rejected by a more attractive man. They are so more ruthless in their rejection. You think it's logical for them to say I guess I shot too high time to lower my standards but studies show they actually double down. Psychologists posit it is a form of saving face. They virtue signal to all others in their society that they are higher value than the less attractive mate. It's a way they try to preserve their st…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 09:00 PM
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The key study by Norman Li et al. (2002) on mate preferences explains the concept of a "minimum threshold" for physical attractiveness. The findings indicate that: Short-term relationships (STR): Women may lower their attractiveness threshold for short-term mating contexts, prioritizing physical traits more heavily, but with fewer demands for non-physical attributes like stability or resources. In these scenarios, men who meet a minimum level of attractiveness are more likely to be considered fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 08:33 PM
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Yes it is because studies on mate selection say so
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 01:38 AM
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Yes the mean if 3.7 had a max value of 30 percent. That means my original statement was correct just only for one location. It was ambiguous so I'm not wrong I have corrected my stance in other comments, which you read. I understand that 32 percent of men who tests paternity are not the father is not the same as all children born. But you are on some tirade and have not noticed that I've made my clarification clear and already had this discussion with others. Can I explain English to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 11:21 PM
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Actually I can. As you saw the median of 3.7 percent has a max of 30 percent. So at least in one place in the study the last person who tried to say what you said it is over 25 percent, in fact the max was 30 percent. Either way my point isn't to argue 5 percent or 25 percent. It's to say that one in twenty ish men are victims of paternity fraud. And we should eliminate paternity fraud by mandatory testing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 10:56 PM
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Let's read the rest of the comments
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 10:47 PM
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There are studies on this. Why are you asking women? Studies show that there is a looks threshold that must be passed before a woman will consider any other attribute in a male partner. This affect is greater when the women is seeking a long term relationship. What does this mean? Women raise their visual standards for LTRs and they will lower their visual standards for hookups. Stop listening to what people say, whether they are blue pilled or red pilled. The studies have the answer and the stu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:46 PM
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Another poster did when she gave the median of 3.7 percent l. She also posted that there was a max of 30 percent. She was trying to argue what you are but then actually proved my point. There are regions where the percentage is 30 percent. Also it doesn't matter 5 percent or 30 percent. A single case of paternity fraud is one too many, and like one in twenty fathers are victims of paternity fraud. That's a lot of fathers. So please do not dismiss this on the basis that there is no credibility. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:39 PM
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It actually depends where you look. The median across NA suggests a median of 3.7 percent of babies. But the upper limit across the data set is 30 percent for some regions and very low percentages for others. It seems like an exaggeration but there absolutely are areas where the rate is that high. Now overall it's 3.7 percent. But still - one in twenty ish men being a victim of paternity fraud is a lot of men. So whether it's around 5 percent or 25 percent hardly matters. This is a grave injusti…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:32 PM
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You didn't read what I said. A lot of men are victims and do not know they are victims / do not know they should get a paternity test. Let me be clear here. 1 in 20 fathers are victims of paternity fraud. Of that group of fathers some have no idea (most even). These people go about their lives living a lie and being taken advantage of. This is a very large group of men who we should absolutely stand up for. Making the test available does not give these men justice. Only mandatory testing does.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:23 PM
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What about empathy for the one in 25 men who are victims of paternity fraud? Up to one in three men in certain areas of the us? What about men who don't know they aren't the father? So never think to get a test? Testing should be mandatory so that there is no infidelity or accusations. Just factual evidence and the right names on the birth certificate. It's the only fair thing for both parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 08:35 PM
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No that's not true. Because a lot of men won't find out they aren't the father. Either ignorant stupid or close enough genetically. These men never find justice because they are ignorant to being a victim, yet they raise children who are not their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 08:33 PM
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Solution 3: mandatory paternity testing because the median says 3.7 percent of babies are born with the wrong father on the birth certificate - which means effectively the median states one in twenty five men are victims of fraud. We need to protect these men from fraud. The only way to protect these men from fraud is mandatory testing at birth. In some areas studies show that 30 percent of babies are born with a different father on the certificate. Others less. 32 percent of all paternity tests…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 08:31 PM
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Correct, and where did you get me saying otherwise? I corrected myself The median is 3.7 percent and some of the studies included in that median says 30 percent BORN (from low single digits to 30 percent at worst to calculate the median of 3.7 percent). So it's actually across the board depending where you look in the country and what data set you use but I was willing to concede this. There are studies that show 30 percent born. I'm not looking to argue the exact numbers, my point is paternity …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 07:30 PM
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Read what I am saying please you are ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:34 PM
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Correct I acknowledged that. The median is 3.7 percent with some studies saying up to 30 percent and others much less. The fact is even 1/20 1/25 children is rampant fraud and these men deserve justice
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:00 PM
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Yes you are right. But 2 percent is a lot It's actually a median of 3.7 percent across many studies. Some found 30 percent, others much less
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 04:57 PM
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32 percent of men who get paternity tests are not the father. Also how is 6 percent of all births not a problem again? That's literally 1/20 men being victims of paternity fraud. That's more than women who are victims of sexual assault lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 04:56 PM
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But read the further discussion. The median is 3.7 percent with some studies saying 30 percent. The fact is whether it's 3.7 percent or 30 percent really doesn't matter. Because justice for 1/30 of all men with children is a lot of justice to doll out. The actual numbers do not matter and arguing them is grasping as straws. The fact is paternity fraud is rampant and these men deserve justice, whether it's 1/3 men, 1/5 men or 1/30 men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 04:50 PM
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The median is three percent. The upper bound is 30 percent. You are also misrepresenting that data. Also I would say justice for something that affects like 1/20 to 1/30 men is important and we should strive for it You are trying to minimize the gravity of the situation and the fact is paternity fraud is rampant. Whether it's 1/30 or 1/10 makes no difference, it's way too high
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 04:41 PM
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I said paternity tests. That stat isn't paternity tests
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 04:20 PM
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32 percent of all paternity tests say not the father. You are right I may have misspoke, I was quoting the lawyer on the news the other day. He's the lawyer who pushed for mandatory paternity testing in the US state that just passed that into law. The fact is paternity fraud is rampant. And unfortunately it's not okay for women to deny paternity tests because it makes them feel bad - 32 percent of the time the men wanting a test are justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 04:19 PM
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It's not folding. It's refusing to engage in an irrational discussion. You can easily google the data yourself. My first google result says 32 percent of paternity tests say not the father. We can argue what demographics this applies to, is this USA, is this a black neighborhood in an impoverished area, is this upper middle class, etc. I just don't want to because that is stupid and taking away from the point: paternity fraud is rampant and you cannot dismiss that fact because I do not want to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 04:11 PM
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That's what I'm saying - it's cheaper for the government...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 03:40 PM
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No the data shows they are lol. Out of all the tests it is 30 percent not the father https://dnatesting.com/30-of-men-not-the-father/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 03:21 PM
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It is actually cheaper because what is costly is the court proceedings determining paternity after the fact
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 03:18 PM
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Oh sure, it's 32 percent according to some labs. So why are we not granting paternity requests to men when they question paternity - they're right 1/3 of the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:56 PM
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What do you mean deprive? It's saving 25 percent of men from the requirement to raise a child that isn't theirs. In fact mandatory paternity testing gives men individual liberty. They can actually choose and make informed choices to stick around
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:52 PM
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Stop changing the topic and being manipulative. Capitalization is also used for effect to highlight key words. I'm done with talking about it because you are using it to try to dismiss what I said. Contrary to how you feel it has no impact to taking what I say seriously that is an argumentative fallacy . Stop being manipulative because you are hard to take seriously My point is that you are grasping at straws. It doesn't matter what demographic if overall paternity fraud is estimated to be at ov…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:50 PM
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There is no shouting. Please do not change the topic. US of A If you are looking for specific data on those look it up. The 25 percent statistic is quoted from the lawyer who was in the news recently because one US state just made paternity testing mandatory. https://www.saveservices.org/2024/02/paternity-fraud-continues-to-be-a-problem-although-progress-is-being-made/#:~:text=Some%20studies%20estimate%20that%20as,child%20who%20is%20not%20his. Some studies estimate over 30 percent It's really th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:38 PM
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Also the rate of paternity fraud is over 25 percent of all children born. Let's not forget that fact and put it all on the father's trauma instead, which is absurd. You tried to blame the father when the insecurities ARE VALID
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:30 PM
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The issue is that over 25 percent of all children born have the wrong father on the birth certificate. This is not a joke, it's actually this bad. This is one reason why men here are so big on not dating 304s. One if four men are cuckolded. You say the assumption is not to trust, but the fact is paternity fraud is so pervasive there is over a 1 in 4 chance for it to occur. There is a real reason why trust should not be the default Mandatory testing before the birth certificate is signed would so…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:26 PM
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I agree with you. I just wanted to say that pulling yourself up by your bootstraps and putting yourself out there isn't the solution, compensating by putting in effort is. And short kings really got to compensate. I'm fully red pill here man. You aren't going to see me telling people to give up. I'm gonna say be the best you can fucking be you pussy bitch. I'm not some black pilled doomer. I grinded my ass off and now I have a wonderful partner. Cannot complain
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 01:51 AM
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Is he fit, muscular, good career? The object thing has nothing to do with red pill, nor progressive ideas??
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 10:36 PM
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Dude is probably red pilled hard and you are the girl of his dreams. Naive and kinky so you fall on his dick and treat him like a king just like the red pill says will happen when you have looks money and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 10:22 PM
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Indeed. Short kings need to compensate and hard. It's the sad reality of the situation. That's why they're either the jester, too jacked for their frame, or rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:53 PM
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Only a few men high five eachother for it. Man whores are looked down upon just as much as sluts and whores who are women. Most men actually care about the family unit, LTRs, and see sex as something shared between two people who actually want to build something together. Where do you get this idea that men high five eachother? Whores of any gender are looked down on (but also envied which confuses you)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 07:44 PM
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There is nothing wrong about telling it how it is. Being a whore is a choice. Being an incel is not - it's in the definition "involuntary". Single moms are less valuable as are virgin men. It's just a fact
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 05:56 PM
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Don't listen to op. He said it's not reality that once you bench 225 and make money you will get a woman but my experience says otherwise For context j spent 4.5 years getting ghosted on apps. Couldn't get even the fat chicks to accept a date invitation. Well after 4.5 years I was working at Microsoft. Making the big bucks. I weight lifted for 6 months, updated my photos, and had 8 first dates scheduled within two weeks of doing so. I accepted second dates with three of those 8 and all three wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:46 PM
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You make yourself desirable as a man by having looks money and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:37 PM
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My completely mid woman friend had 999+ on her matches list on dating apps. I took 4.5 years to get a first date. It wasn't until I got muscular and updated my photos that I even was graced with the right to date a woman. I'm easily more attractive than her. This girl went from being a sweet, caring woman to trying out the ice cream flavors (her words) complaining about missing her 'prime' all the while still living with her (ex) boyfriend of 10 years since highschool. Whom just wanted to be lov…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:07 PM
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Studies show that a 6'3 man has on average 0.5 other male competitors for the same woman. A man 5'5" has about 130. It's 260 times harder for a 5'5" man to get a woman than it is for a 6'3" man. A lot of these shorter men are also Asian, and 50 percent of Asian women prefer white men in North America. You are actually incredibly wrong here, so please stop spreading misinformation. Your view of how mating works is wrong. Your reluctance to see how difficult it is just makes it neigh impossible fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 02:49 PM
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Agreed. Women can survive being hurt. More men need to do it and I think more men need to be able to spot bad behavior AND have the strength to say something. Our society has made speaking out against things that are wrong difficult however and so the men that can spot right from wrong and have the balls to do something are dwindling. Guys put the pussy on a pedestal and lose their truth, allowing themselves to be manipulated in the process. (For instance criticism of womend behavior being inval…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:48 PM
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I think we share a lot of the same opinions. I just wanted to share my perspective and it appears we are in line I agree most men do not know their value or have standards. And these men are not holding the women they date accountable. In my comment I added how the red pill teaches men what is right and to hold women accountable. This is actually a big part of female arousal (my partner says she's most turned on when we argue because I won't accept any of her womanly ways. But red pilled men are…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:48 PM
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It's a Catch-22 because unless the man is in the top echelon of men, he does not get to vet. He takes what he can get and for the majority of men it's the best they can do. They're just happy to have someone and will accept abuse. This is where a lot of red pill advice comes in. Body count matters, find your ugly duckling, a woman without male friends, a woman coming from a good family, no trauma, and all of these other factors such as a woman below your league all contribute to a happier health…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:19 PM
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Are you projecting your finger banging with your essays? You avoided the question. You said it was not appropriate to bring up before first intimacy. For one, that's an opinion and two, it's not the topic at hand. I do not wish to discuss if it is appropriate or not. I asked you a very specific question. Your lack of answer, use of argumentative fallacies like changing the topic tell me you kept it to yourself. Own up to it 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 11:45 PM
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So you didn't tell her 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:31 PM
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Except you did lose your virginity. And that age is normal for men. It's a tad late but only by a year or two. Did you tell your first? And be honest
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 08:35 PM
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Women having sexual selection killed romance. Because the data shows that when given sexual selection women only go for the top percentile of males. It has nothing to do with romance and everything to do with finding a mate who is attractive to women. Psych studies have proven and even quantified how important every trait is for a potential male partner. How romantic a man is has almost nothing to do with it at all 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 08:25 PM
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Women who have had sex a thousand times by 30 (conservative here...) won't want to have sex with a man who never has. It's not overrated at all. Women also behave quite a bit different from men. Even down to how they structure their sentences and the words they choose. Being able to communicate with men and women differently is a skill that people with relationship experience do without noticing. Also, it's difficult to be a leader in the relationship if you don't know what you are doing. Every …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 08:16 PM
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Then why are you blue pilled? The advice I gave is the definition of red pill. I used to be blue pilled, and I spent 4.5 years on apps without a single date. So I red pilled myself, followed the red pill, and then validated it through my own experiences. From how women behave, to the psychology of attraction, I found experimentally that the red pill was facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 01:45 PM
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For all the virgin incels here, this was my experience as a former late bloomer who found success and an amazing partner Was a little chubby, didn't have much luck as a young adult. Tried dating a little but I had some social anxiety. Well this turned me into being your age without any experience. Had a great career though. Well I started dating apps. Got ghosted for years. Girls wouldn't want to message me last a few messages. Those that did message more would not accept date invitations. Even …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:59 PM
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You literally have a red pill take and then also ask why men are here talking with women, it's because the women refuse to acknowledge the truth that mate selection is competitive and for men looks money and game are the ways to get there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:09 AM
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I mentioned toxic masculinity because in my opinion that is where the misogyny comes from in those who identify as red pilled but are really just toxic My definition of the red pill is not limited. I deeply understand the three sun types of red pill and I actually believe in all three. There is the looks red pill, the status red pill, and the game red pill. I think looks status and the ability to seduce are all important. And I mean seduction not just in terms of intimate seduction such as kino …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:49 PM
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I am not denying the misogyny is there. I am denying that the red pill is misogynistic. There are misogynistic men, the red pill is not misogynistic. You may feel the red pill had changed but that's an opinion. I think it's convenient for you to associate toxic masculinity with the red pill to deny red pill beliefs which are backed by science
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:55 PM
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What someone says is not what the red pill says. So they are different things. What you have said is irrational
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:12 PM
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Care to explain? A fact of human behavior cannot by definition be misogynistic/misandrist, even if that fact paints a specific gender in a negative light.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:11 PM
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Oh true, thought you were another poster. Let me clarify There is no virulent misogyny in the red pill. There are people who say misogynistic things and that's what I was getting at regarding Andrew Tate. You say complete rejection of reality, but the red pill is only reality as demonstrably proven. It's based in fact through plenty of research and studies. If anything that is red pill is deemed incorrect, it is simply no longer red pill. There are people who state incorrect facts. To come full …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:39 PM
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It's actually you who is deflecting. You are deflecting the red pill under the basis that Andrew Tate says misogynistic things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:19 PM
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The fact that they are obvious does not detract from the validity or accuracy of the red pill or change what the red pill means. Who are these red pill podcasters you speak of? Andrew Tate is not a red pill podcaster. He says red pill things. What you are doing is a logical fallacy. People who say red pill things who also say misogynistic things does not make the red pill misogynistic. It does not depend on what you define the red pill. The red pill only has one definition. Any truth to the worl…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:14 PM
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None of that is red pill though. It sounds like your problem is with people, not the red pill at all
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 04:44 PM
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Even the land whales would ghost unfortunately! I was okay with a bigger girl, I just wanted someone to love and provide for and understood all the nutrition and metabolic reasons that lead to obesity. So I had a lot of empathy for bigger girls. They'd pick the skinny guy over me!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 02:13 AM
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Yes it is a bit of confirmation bias, but I also picked a good one and knew that she would see my point of view and understand that she was withholding intimacy. She did. More knowledge is a good thing though, so I don't agree with your analogy completely. I knew all the tricks the ladies play. Their goal is least amount of sex for the most amount of commitment (to their detriment because their brain says they love hot erotic sex) and men was more sex for less. It's just the game. Now we're on a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 02:10 AM
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While that's all well and true, and I understand and agree with sunk cost fallacy I am also a glutton for punishment. It's why I worked as hard as I did to get to where I am in life. In my case it worked out. But I have also invested a great deal of time learning about how people think. So I disagree with your thoughts that books do not solve everything. Yes - you can't just read a book and be an expert but books can get you really far. A lot of women are unhappy with themselves, they put up wal…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 12:30 AM
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Then men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 12:23 AM
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Studies actually show that there is a looks threshold that must be crossed before women will consider any other attribute in a male partner, and this effect is even more pronounced when women are seeking LTRs. Your comment is factually false. You are also trying to say that I did not have social skills. This is also not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 02:51 PM
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I tried dating women who were in my ballpark and did lower my standards. For reference I am very conventionally attractive (my sister did modelling for FHM, maxim, and playboy), as I said I was asked out a lot in my early years which is exceptionally rare. I had a bit of a dad bod. Like I said I was never big. But the 30 pounds I lost in three months was all it took to be completely invisible. I grew up with my dad this way. We ate well, I was quite a chef too. I pursued excellence in cooking in…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 02:47 PM
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There is in fact no surprise. I saw a lot of my friends in their early 20s change their identity. They started going to the gym. I am not a shallow person so I looked down on their inauthenticity. I am just sad that it is the way it is and that women work this way. Because once I did find a LTR I made that woman very happy. She fell deeply in love with me. I raised her up. It's sad because I was there the entire time, girls just kept choosing the men who would hurt them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 02:42 PM
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That's the easy way out imo. At this point I had read books on female arousal and knew communication was the pathway out of a dead bedroom so that is the route I took. Very difficult conversations however. For reference I agree that is reasonable, that's just not who I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 02:32 PM
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Because you are unaware of the multitude of studies that show that women care more about physical attractiveness, so your comment is not only dismissive of my experience but also ignorant
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 02:25 PM
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Studies show (and this is real life) that women have a looks threshold that must be crossed before they will consider any other attribute in a male partner, and that this effect is even more pronounced when they are seeking a LTR. So their standards are lower if they do not see a long term future. That was however my goal. This is not observed in men. You are trying to say that women are just like men so my experience is moot. Except studies show that they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 02:24 PM
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I do not see your point of view. There is nothing wrong with meeting someone for coffee. There is no question dodging, I just don't see it relevant. I have no issue with a girl going on a first date with several men in a short time frame. I would question her if she escalated to physical intimacy with multiple men. That's not what happened here so I am unsure why you are so dead set on painting me as a bad person?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 02:19 PM
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As opposed to ghosting people because I have too many options? Please read what you wrote and think this through again. Rather than leave these girls on read, I had a coffee with them and gave them a fair shot. It's the least I could do. So please, take your sad attempt to attack my character and leave lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:29 AM
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How is that the important part? That's changing the topic. I do not care to comment on girls who date multiple men. If you are trying to insinuate that I hurt women and was not honest or had good intentions then you would be grossly wrong. I merely wanted to convey how girls would accept a date invitation more readily after I became Chad. I went from not a single date over 4 years to sending a kiss emoji and a coffee cup with a question mark. It was literally that easy. Prior, I got repeatedly s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:38 AM
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Hinge is 60-40 actually My experience is mirrored IRL as well, so your point is moot 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:29 AM
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Why do you think red pill men want casual sex? These men just want to be desired and lusted after because that boosts their self esteem like any other person who gets that in a relationship with a healthy sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:45 AM
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My experience: Used to be the popular kid in school. Got asked out by a dozen girls my age before grade 9. Started getting a little chubby because I liked computers. Was never big. Well going into highschool I was invisible. Diff highschool. That was cool, I did my thing. I liked computers which was not cool. Got a computer engineering degree. Spent 4 years on apps getting ghosted, never even got a first date. Always someone more attractive to talk to. By this point I had made it to the top of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:42 AM
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