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Define actually
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 10:32 AM
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As a Chad/Chadlite, I've had women interested in me only for sex. I don't like it either. Especially when they're in a relationship. I'm not a cheater and I don't want to be a cheater's accomplice. (Being approached by a bachelorette at a bar was especially disturbing. Felt sorry for her husband-to-be and for her as well. That's not a healthy start to a marriage.)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 04:54 PM
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Well, then women shouldn't use things men tell them in confidence as ammunition.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 07:56 PM
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Those aren't values.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 09:31 PM
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Just a reminder, women are the ones that think women's only value to men is sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:45 PM
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So guys should be centering women? Or, wait, incels shouldn't be centering women. So attractive guys, try your hardest to land a good career. And unattractive guys, try your hardest to stay out of their way. Oh, and out of women's sight... And especially their DMs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:39 PM
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I've experienced it. I'm an attractive guy and I used to frequent the bar and club scene. I have wavy hair and I grew it out to 17 inches. Lots of girls, and even some drunk guys, would touch and grope my hair. I mean complete strangers would do this without saying a word to me. I didn't like or dislike it, I just got used to it. It was this weird surprising thing, until it wasn't anymore. At some point I started to expect it and barely noticed it after that. The biggest takeaway I have is it di…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:41 PM
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Exactly! Just be taller, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:22 AM
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If you're looking for a lifelong partner, the best strategy is the same for both sexes. Find someone who is a balance between highly desirable and low baggage (Essentially that they still like the opposite sex and aren't thinking transactionally). So this does include hypergamy to an extent. Or at least getting the best you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 12:12 PM
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How much men respect a woman does not equate to how attracted we are to her. They are two different things for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 01:43 AM
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I think social status is the reason she can't help but talk about it: she sees him as a loser and believes others will see her as one for being with him; therefore, she needs to justify her choice and demonstrate her superior status over her husband. In other words: 'My hubby is such a loser (subtext: Don't worry everybody, I'm not a loser like he is)!'
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:56 PM
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Also i don't approach because i rarely find men attractive on the streets. Is it that they don't meet your preferences or that you can't get enough information from just looking at them?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 03:09 PM
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So if the boyfriend refuses to dress nice when he visits her family, she has no right to complain?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 10:21 PM
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r/ChristianDating seems to think so. The issue, at least with Christians, is that the stakes are so much higher. So everyone has the same social media related problems but marriage is supposed to be for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 10:20 PM
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most(90%) of men never even experience a sexual prime So a woman being in any kind of relationship with a man is actually settling and while a woman can give a man her prime or not a man can't do the same because he never has a sexual prime. Your argument has an internal contradiction: According to you, 10% of men do have a sexual prime. So there are relationships with men that are not settling. These are relationships with the top 10% of men. Again, according to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 11:50 AM
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Your industry contributes to the objectification of women as objects for the men's sexual gratification. You don't think that the dehumanization of women contributes to rape culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 09:36 PM
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You don't see how that perpetuates rape culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 09:21 PM
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And yet the same people say that furries are normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 09:18 PM
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If you're manipulating a woman into sex with you and dropping her later on... Then they are both treating sex like a commodity to be bought, sold, or traded. Do you think sex work should be a respected profession?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 09:13 PM
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Formidable + safe for her. You missed the second half of the equation. Khal Drogo would kill anyone, for his Khaleesi.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 01:34 AM
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Being her 378th choice might even be acceptable to many men, if she treated you like you're her best current option. Instead, you are measured against the best aspects of all 377 that came before. And most of those guys weren't even offering her commitment, so you're being measured against the vacation fantasy idealized dreams of those 377 men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 12:02 AM
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Something is fishy here... Yes, because some species of fish can actually procreate through parthenogenesis. Human women cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 07:58 PM
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I completely disagree with the claim, but for different reasons. A top tier man and an average woman get the same amount of attention but not the same quality of attention. The average woman dislikes most of the attention she gets from men while a top tier man likes most of the attention he gets from women.
/r/EverydayMisandry20/11/25 06:55 PM
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The post is just another attempt to justify men being called to "man up" while arguing that women should not have to because of biology. We get it, there's nothing new here. There's not even an equivalent term for it for women, because everyone knows it'll never happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:23 PM
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Yes, but only the women are God in the analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 04:24 PM
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I actually think that a lot of the victim posturing is an appeal to other women. Men are an easy mark, relatively speaking; other women can see through them much easier. So long as the sisterhood is okay with it, it can continue. If the majority of other women find a behavior unacceptable, it comes at a much higher social cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 03:17 PM
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OP literally equates women to God and men to monkeys. Then asks why men are angry. Hmm, what a head scratcher!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 03:05 PM
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So you don't believe in the marketplace of ideas?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 02:56 PM
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What do you mean force? Speaking? Is that forcing my evaluation on someone? "I don't like sushi." Oh no, call the police! I forced my evaluation!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 12:01 PM
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Certain behaviors and statuses are currently shamed. Unless the reasons for why they are shamed change, they will continue to be. So a helpful suggestion would either address how to stop this shaming or how to act in spite of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 07:07 PM
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You throw around words like "should" (a philosophical term that relies on grounding) and "shamed" (a moral term that comes from a system) as if they can be arbitrarily adjusted to fit what's most useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 06:54 PM
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That's because men choose at a different step than women do. Recall the adage "Women are the gatekeepers of sex; men are the gatekeepers of relationships". Men don't have an extensive list of character qualities that they need a woman to possess before they consider her. Why? That's not when men make their decision. Men's choice is whether to commit or not, and that's after getting to know her. At that point, it's not just about how she looks. Not at all. It's an overall assessment of her and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 10:35 AM
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Yes, you just described the female equivalent of being a simp or beta provider. And yes, such transactional attempts to buy a relationship are just as foolish for a woman to pursue as for a man. It's the same scarcity mindset. Good relationships are ones of mutual giving, from a place of abundance. You have correctly identified this, have been acting accordingly, and experienced the benefits of doing so. Congratulations!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 09:16 AM
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Apparently you haven't heard the dialogue around Andrew Wilson's argument before. What you are mentioning is a major counter argument that has been addressed like this: Well, what if I use a gun or money? Well, I could use a gun or money too. We are at parity with that element. So what breaks the deadlock? The difference in physical capacity to apply force. Additionally: Your best attempt at a defeater to the argument is to illustrate conflict between two groups of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 09:20 AM
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Not illogical, disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 12:33 AM
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No, that's not what most men want. Men complain about feminism when women resort to groupthink to develop the terms they want in a relationship. For example, why should my partner be listening to man-hating lesbians when it comes to deciding what is best for us in our relationship? Or why should a girl who would otherwise like me change her standards because other women online said so? That's the nature of the complaint. It's like having an overbearing mother-in-law injecting herself into all of…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 11:13 AM
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That's not a bug, it's a feature. Working as intended. Schrodinger's woman. Etc
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 11:51 AM
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I think scarcity mindset is the problem. This includes simps but is not exclusive to them. Women who approach relationships from a perspective like "I am the table" are also operating from a scarcity mindset, though in this case from a position of strength rather than weakness. Two sides of the same problematic coin. Why is scarcity mindset a problem? It's transactional and a zero-sum game. Healthy relationships are based on mutual selfless giving, not mutual selfish taking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 10:33 AM
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Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 07:16 PM
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Careful, this is what fat girls say to justify their 4th through 11th scoops of ice cream. (I can recall an overweight coworker with a straight face making the argument that since she hates herself it's okay that she overeats. I believe all I asked her was "How was your weekend?")
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 08:30 PM
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You made a nice case here for why having a high body count is a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 08:23 PM
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You think this is a factor of age rather than their generation? I can't picture women that are saying "I don't need no man" and "I am the table" today becoming thoughtful, considerate, and loving in 10 years or even 50 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 07:00 PM
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So n count does matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 07:43 PM
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I think you're interpreting my comments as a criticism of the women involved but I'm criticizing the men. Friendzoned is when a man wants to date a woman but she wants to just be friends and he accepts that under false pretenses. He pretends to be her friend but really isn't. Then he goes on to give compliments, favors, gifts, etc. with the hope that someday she will date him. That's being a simp. If he wants to be her friend, fine. Good. Then be her actual friend. If he wants to date her and sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 09:05 PM
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Online: right swipes, likes, and subscriptions. Real life: more compliance, compliments, grovelling. Real life: fewer boundaries and less self-respect, guys willing to tolerate even outright mockery so long as a girl looks at them. (I recall a friend-zoned co-worker answering to "brother" when a girl he liked called him that.)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 08:23 PM
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Sorry for editing my original comment. Feel free to change yours if you no longer agree. I do think both have gotten worse, I just wanted to be a little more specific as to what has changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 07:33 PM
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More men are simps now than 10 years ago. More women have delusionally high standards now than 10 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 07:28 PM
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Maybe that's the majority, but I have a fiancée and I'm still like that. I don't really care if I am in a relationship or not. I wasn't for several years. I've never felt lonely. It's just not a thing for me. And as far as being in a relationship, I could take it or leave it but when something good came around I accepted it for what it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 07:20 PM
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Hopefully your political views reflect your values rather than affect them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 06:49 PM
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The Red Pill sub doesn't really exist in a functional sense anymore. It's quarantined.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 03:09 PM
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I'm for equal rights and I'm against hateful supremacist movements. That's why I'm against feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 08:57 AM
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Additional example: women claiming "I am the table" (meaning that their mere presence is a treat worthy of a man putting forth his best efforts and devoting all of his resources freely to enjoy.) while also filing for divorce at a much higher rate than men do is feminist cakism. Why? Women are claiming their mere presence is such a benefit to men and worthy of extreme investment. On the other hand, they also claim that their absence is worthy of half of his extreme investment. Either a woman is …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:34 AM
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Traditionalism is based on traditions: it's a belief system. Why have you taken the beliefs out of your calculation? Many women that opt for traditional relationships do so because they have traditional values. Of course women that do not share the beliefs would not have interest. This is like asking why someone would be Hindu and only looking at the practical implications for and against without considering the fact that they believe in Hindu theology.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 11:19 AM
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This is because pretty privilege is necessary nowadays in order to get the relaxing, peaceful companionship men want from women. If she is utterly smitten by you to the degree that just being around you fills her with joy, you can have that peace. If not, then you face demands, and these demands are much higher than your mother had for your father. My mom's generation tried to 'get along' in relationships. Women of this generation just want to 'get'. If you are attractive enough in her eyes to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:52 PM
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I'd be a SAHD so long as I can teach my sons and daughters how to fix everything from home appliances to cars, to live off the land, and to farm/gather/hunt. I would not be on board with it if the expectation is that I watch clueless brats stare at screens all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:39 PM
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When I used to do that with friends, there were four types of guys in our group: There to hang out with friends Delusional, thought he had a chance but didn't Attractive and did well at clubs Opportunistic looking for sad validation-seeking girls As number 3, I really only understood the number 1 guys, because part of my reason to go out was to spend time with friends, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 11:18 PM
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You'd have to deal with Instagram too, if you want to actually make a difference
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 06:20 PM
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And frogs. All that croaking and singing. That's male frogs calling for the females. The females then seek out the ones with the healthier-sounding song.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 11:53 PM
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As Mom and apple pie.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 10:34 PM
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It's more about not answering kindness with arrogant scorn. With the drink example, responding with something like an unironic "About time" or "A drink? That's all you got me?" is the end of the line for this train.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:01 PM
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Bare minimum: be appreciative of said effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:51 PM
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This is an attribution of innate goodness to women. Why is it done? So they can feel good while actually doing evil.
/r/EverydayMisandry23/10/25 12:01 AM
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Unless she never chased Chad/Jake in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 02:38 PM
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I think AFBB is bad for Jane, John, and society. Possibly also for 7+/10 Jake and 7+/10 Julie. I'm for monogamy. But, perhaps that's easy for me to say as a Jake in a relationship with a Julie that's more fulfilling than hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 02:26 PM
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I'm in a relationship and happy. I'd like other people who are seeking such happiness to also find it. I care about 3/10 Jane and 4/10 John that both want relationships but haven't found somebody. Jane would never consider John. John can't find anybody who would consider him. If Jane would have stayed off of Instagram, perhaps she might have given John a chance and discovered that she actually really likes him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 12:14 PM
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I'd go even further than that: many women are unwilling to make attempts to improve their dating life. They don't even want to look for possible solutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 12:00 PM
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Unless for people for whom it's natural. But then they don't have to learn, do they? For a lot of men with game, it's a subset of what is natural to them. They naturally have some attractive behaviors and some unattractive ones. So it's more about playing into your strengths and away from your weaknesses. That feels more like self-improvement than something unnatural. It feels like what we do in every other area of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 11:49 AM
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Ahead of the 2016 election, one of the top negative ads against Trump was quoting him describing Rosie O'Donnell as "she ate like a pig".
/r/MensRights10/10/25 06:32 AM
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Overlooked element: women can't survive in the woods on their own anyway, unless this is really close to civilization. Choose man = food, shelter, water, fire, protection Choose bear = shiver, starve, dehydrate to death
/r/MensRights28/09/25 04:02 PM
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I think the actual problem is noise. Women who want to make it obvious can figure out how to do so. Or at least ask around and get advice on how to do so. Unfortunately, women who want to extract time, validation, gifts, services, money, etc. from men they are not interested in also figure out how to fake that they are genuinely interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 12:54 PM
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'Morality is subjective' is vague. You could either mean 'I think that morality is subjective' (which would make it an objective truth claim) or it could mean 'My personal approach is to treat morality as if it were subjective' (which would make it a subjective opinion). The former is self-contradictory: making a statement about objective truth that denies the existence of objective truth, in this case about morality. The latter doesn't fit your further statement that 'what many don't understand…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 07:32 AM
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What someone does for work or their hobbies is not who they are as a person. A person's character, values, beliefs, and worldview are who they are as a person. These things are not necessarily tied to what someone does for work or hobbies but rather how they do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 06:55 AM
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Her conclusion does not follow from her premises. There was nothing in her argument that supports her claim of not being dispensable as well.
/r/EverydayMisandry24/09/25 11:06 PM
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No. I don't necessarily think that trans men would detract from the movement but it's like calling dogs cats and cats dogs.
/r/MensRights24/09/25 09:19 PM
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Well, I gave her a ring. Wedding plans. A promise to support her and any kids we have. Things like that. If the incels were getting some we'd already be living on Mars, have personal spacecraft, a full Dyson swarm around the Sun, time travel... (I mean, we are talking science fiction here)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 09:06 PM
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The ugly and lame feminist men spend a lot of time (and resources) in the friendzone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 08:43 PM
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Yes. "I hate all women, why won't you date me?" Sounds worse than: "There's a lot of crazies in the dating pool now. You're a breath of fresh air."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 08:39 PM
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most people get what they deserve in the long run and for a lot of women, what they “deserve” is never enough for them. But, I am the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 10:54 PM
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NGL, I really enjoyed reading about the "love talk" in Call of the Wild when I was a kid. When they were alone, the dog's owner would swear profusely at him as a way to show affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:19 PM
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Doc, checking for a hernia: "Hey kid, every relation starts with short-term. Can you cough for me?"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 11:07 PM
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Men build societies, women destroy them with their decadence. Then men build the next society.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:57 PM
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Oh, I don't like it. I don't condone it either. But "Nature is red in tooth and claw". It's women following their baser instincts. And just as women notice the men that behave like animals, this provides a (one of many) great indicator for men to note and avoid. For example, if she surrounds herself with a whole bunch of friendzoned guys that don't have girlfriends, that should raise a red flag in a man's mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 09:50 PM
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Disagree. It does work, just in the opposite direction. Women's dating advice for men functions to direct desirable men to act in a more amenable way while simultaneously directing undesirable men to completely eliminate themselves from the dating pool. It enhances the good options and removes the bad ones. This is an excellent behavioral adaptation for female genetic fitness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:30 PM
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"How could I gaslight you, I'm delusional?"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:20 PM
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I disagree. Women are no longer doing this. They've decided they no longer need to, either subconsciously or consciously. Instead, they've switched their gaslighting of men into excessive demands mode. They fear men so little that they demand increasingly more and more while expecting to give nothing in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:16 PM
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When she suspects that he's doing it out of romantic interest and still accepts it, she is no longer his friend. Why? Friends care about each other. Once she's made the decision to place what she wants over his well-being, that is not friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 11:47 PM
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How often do in-person interactions with unfamiliar men make you concerned for your safety?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 04:06 PM
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What about creepy stuff in person? Guys looking at you but never saying anything, approaching when you've shown zero interest, cat calls, too-forward comments like "hey beautiful" or much worse from complete strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 03:58 PM
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I'm not arguing with you, I have a different question related to your response. She's getting 47 dick pics, three stalkers, and guys who open with "I want to smell your feet." Could you describe your reaction to these things? I'd like to understand what a woman goes through with this stuff. How do these experiences make you feel?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 03:48 PM
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Go be awesome. Notice when a few women agree. Talk to those women. Catch them when they throw themselves at you. At no point does this involve being a dancing monkey. Now, if your objection is "this doesn't happen to me", that's fair. Maybe there's something you can do to increase the chances and make that strategy work. Maybe there isn't. But it still at no point involves being a dancing monkey. It may involve being single but it never involves being pushed around. However, if it does ever work…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 03:43 PM
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Sure it is. Women have desire for men too. It may be lower on average but just find a woman that really strongly desires you. It's a whole different ballgame. So, for society and overall I agree with you. But for individual men, I would advise them to seek the best situation for themselves. Namely, don't simp and don't waste your time with women that don't value you. Search as far and wide as you can until you find a woman who does and that presents a relationship opportunity that you would be h…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 03:30 PM
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Currently, yes. Throughout history? It seemed pretty equal. In prehistory? Women were more desirable than men, but successful man were way more desirable than women. In the future? Men and women may race each other to the bottom, both rendering themselves utterly undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 03:26 PM
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So it can be equal, it just usually isn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 03:22 PM
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Actual data metrics that equally fit alternate hypotheses. In other words your argument doesn't prove anything. You even know this. I thought you would try to make a further argument but apparently you do not have one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 03:20 PM
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Disagree. The desirer holds less power than the one desired. You are casting this as the woman being desired more but it is not always that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 03:17 PM
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So your argument for your hypothesis versus any other that equally fits the data is anecdotal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 03:12 PM
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These hypotheses sound good but they don't follow from the data you presented. When there are multiple possible interpretations of the data, you can't just pick and choose the one you want to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 03:04 PM
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Years in education subtract from years having and raising children. Let's make up some fake numbers: Women have 25 years of fertility. Society One has five years of education within that period, giving them 20 years of available fertility. Society Two has 10 years of education within that period, giving them 15 years of available fertility. It would be no surprise to see Society Two have a higher birth rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 02:52 PM
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If men value women just for their bodies it gives them even more value when they provide something else These are contradictory statements. If men truly value women just for their bodies, then providing something else would not give them more value. Or, if providing something else does give them more value, then men don't truly value women just for their bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 02:44 PM
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Disagree. The data that you present is "years of education". The correlation with lower fertility rate might just be due to putting off having children during the years receiving education.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 02:37 PM
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There are numerous convicted female sex offenders. Society would trust their children with those women more than they would with an average man. That's how bad it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 12:56 PM
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No, balls are the reason for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:07 PM
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Who said he knows? Some guys have been told from birth to adulthood that if a girl shows signs that she likes you, make sure to be really nice to her and then everything will work out. Then, along comes a girl who shows all of the signs but really just wants free stuff from him. Maybe he's a mechanic and she'd like to get her car fixed for free. Maybe he has connections and she'd like to get backstage at the concert. Whatever. If he is clearly naive and she willfully takes advantage of that, tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 10:10 PM
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Oh, so let's say you went door-to-door finding senior citizens and asking them to sell you their cars for $10. If one did, that's their responsibility. They're the ones kicking themselves. Wrong, you are at fault for being an unscrupulous predator.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 10:04 PM
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No, that's selfish. If you suspect that he's hurting himself to give you something, you are guilty of taking advantage of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 06:49 PM
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Disagree: it's a two-way street. If a guy likes a girl and she's not interested in him, yes, it's his fault for deciding to continue his pursuit. However, if the girl knows he likes her and accepts extraordinary benefits from him (gifts, favors, emotional bonding beyond that of friends), then she's at fault for accepting them. Personally, I have followed what you suggest. When a girl doesn't reciprocate, I extricate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 06:44 PM
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Bacon can't really exist. Look in the animal kingdom, where is bacon? We have pigs. We have chickens, turkeys, and cows. We don't have bacon. Go to a farm. People say that bacon comes from here. But where is it to be found? Point to that animal, is that bacon? Nope. What about that one over there? Not bacon either. Sure, after we kill a pig, and cut it up, we can set aside some of it for use as bacon. But that is a social construct. Bacon can't really exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 11:06 AM
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Who said all?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 01:03 AM
1

And who considers having them work while in prison to be cruel and unusual? It's women that do. Not men. Men would put all criminals to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 12:44 AM
2

And if it weren't for women having sympathy on these criminals, our governments would still be chopping their hands off so that they couldn't do it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 12:40 AM
6

It's a negotiation tactic and men are finally calling their bluff en masse.
/r/MensRights18/08/25 11:33 PM
1

So you support passport bros?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 10:22 PM
1

I tell them to make a guy wait. If you make him wait a long time before you get intimate with him, you'll find out if he's there for the long term or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 10:34 PM
2

Ever heard of daughters? What about nieces and cousins? Friends? There are unmarried women that I love dearly and care very much about.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:56 PM
3

There's always room for improvement - and, in fact, not improving yourself at all is catastrophic - but can a guy improve himself enough to make up for poor genetics? I think that the current dating market is too harsh for the small fish to have a chance. Even medium size fish have to settle for less than they could have gotten a generation or two ago. There are plenty of financially successful incels nowadays. And there are guys like me with a mediocre career and a gorgeous fiance. Looks and ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 03:50 PM
1

Women can complain all they want: HR departments still exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 03:36 PM
5

No, genetics has a lot to do with other things as well. Intelligence. Mood regulation. Neurodivergence. Health.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 03:30 PM
2

For a woman who wants a long-term committed relationship, it's an issue. There's a reason fishermen quickly cut their line when they hook a fish that they cannot possibly reel in.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 03:14 PM
4

Big fish used to live in small ponds. Both of my grandfathers and my dad did. Now, every stream runs into the world ocean. Thankfully, my brother and I got the big fish genes and have done well for ourselves. Some of my cousins were not so lucky...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 03:11 PM
2

Some guys just want to find a woman with compatible values. If the two of them like each other but happen to be from different countries, suddenly he's a bad guy and she's a victim? Do some people actually think that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 05:37 PM
1

Right, so they're not passport bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 08:45 PM
2

Many identify as passport bros but they behave like sex tourists. So if they walk like a duck and talk like a duck it's a duck. "Walk" and "talk" are how they behave. What does this subset behave like (therefore what they really are)? Sex tourists. By your logic, you're saying that these are not passport bros. Since that's the case, why do you keep talking about them as your example of passport bros?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 11:49 PM
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Neither, but the statistic is insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 04:25 PM
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You don't do this with your family (hopefully!). Are you saying you have a problem with Pakistanis in the UK? (55% of Pakistani marriages in the UK are between first cousins.)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 04:05 PM
2

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 10:56 AM
3

Yes, I wouldn't want any of them to be the mother of my children. (Though I guess I should admit my bias: I'm engaged to an attractive woman that also has good character.)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 10:53 AM
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You consider the "Kill All Men" and "Men are Trash" slogans to be gains for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 09:21 PM
1

I'm in a similar boat as you. With self control, you can hold out for a girl that subjectively views you as a 9+ and skip most of the headaches that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 03:07 PM
2

Shrek (Lol. Couldn't help but say it!)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:41 PM
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I came back to dating last summer after being off the market for 10 years. It took me two weeks to find the woman for me. Now, it's a year later, and we're happily engaged. Even with a successful foray into and out of the morass that is the modern dating pool, I can't help but be horrified and disgusted by what I saw. Having been away for years, the changes were glaring to me. I'm curious to see how many frogs in the pot have noticed the water start to boil. It seems quite a lot have. At least t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:39 AM
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Frame. Women want certain things from men and don't want other things. As a man, don't let that sway you. Don't be a people pleaser, just be industrious. Live how you want to live and build what you want to build. Then, when you come across a woman you find interesting, offer what you want to offer. She can take it or leave it. Be willing to walk away.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 08:49 PM
12

Guy goes on a date with a girl. Girl shows no signs of liking him. Guy gets obsessed with her and asks her out again. What kind of man is likely to go for that? A confident, attractive man that also knows what he wants and goes after it usually has higher standards for what he goes after. (He has better options available than this.) On the other hand, a desperate loser might go for this. If he has no other options and this girl is attractive, he might not care if she reciprocates interest. Or, m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 07:20 PM
1

Yep, the turds keep circling the bowl.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 06:31 PM
9

Seeing other guys using artificial social skills like reading a script creeps me out. The alternative is to grow in character. And that has so many more benefits for you than just fake game.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 06:29 PM
2

'Quiet men' shaming now? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 06:16 PM
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Call me what you will, but I have no interest in a one-sided relationship like that. "Forcing women to take the lead by initiating things via choosing signals is just abdicating responsibility..." I have no responsibility to like you. If you want me to like you, try being likable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 06:02 PM
15

From my personal observations, both get along fine with men but struggle mightily with women. I'm not just speaking romantically, but in all types of interactions. So who gets away with more? Whoever has more men in their life than women.
/r/MensRights30/06/25 12:15 PM
1

"Good pictures." -- Captain Obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 04:45 PM
0

Look at the shape of dresses.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:09 PM
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The Is-Ought Problem: You can't derive an "ought" from an "is". That's not justification, it's merely an explanation as to why things are the way they are. Bringing it into the moral realm is much more difficult. For example, what's your philosophical grounding for morality here?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 05:32 AM
1

At least in the West, safety is the main message parents want to impart to their children, not masculinity or femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 11:29 PM
8

All throughout history we have examples of men killing other men in war. How is that support?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 03:42 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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