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Debateburneraccountguydude/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:10 PM
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Debateburneraccountguydude/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:29 PM
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Question For Womenburneraccountguydude/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:24 PM
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Yeah I have a lot of issues why do you think I struggle so much. But being denied and isolated from others and normality gives you a chance to see things from another perspective. It’s the outside perspective that clashes with the normal perspective. And yeah I’m deeply frustrated and disappointed in my life and relationships so of course I’m going to sound a little crazy sometimes but I still feel I have some points to share under it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:52 AM
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Nah I mean if they leave what are they going to do they arnt attracting an attractive women besides idea they should love their wife for more then sex at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:48 AM
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No it’s not. It would be like me saying issues in black community are moral failures not understanding the larger context. Manic episodes literally involve all parts of my brain firing even when they shouldn’t. Things I also did, slept like 2 hours a night for a 3 months, impulsive decisions like driving 100 mph, thinking my tasks at work were so important I’d stay at work 16 hours a day, talking way too fast, being super emotional reactive, I literally broke up a public domestic violence fight …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:36 AM
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Uh yeah because they are taking my symptoms during a manic episode, somthing I can’t control and often don’t even know what’s going on until afterwards, and using it to attack me. It would be like if I attacked you for being black, it’s below the belt
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:27 AM
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Frustrated not mad
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:12 AM
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Hoes mad
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:05 AM
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“Oh you think promiscuity is an issue? Name every woman” idk what to do I see outlandish claims about men only wanting sex made on here daily and no one says they can’t post it because it’s antidotal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:07 AM
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I was having a manic episode and I was desperately reaching out for help due to hypersexuality ruining my day to day life. I used such colorful language to show the distress I was in. “Be open and get the help you need” but we’re also going to mock you for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:01 AM
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If I give up and act all soft and nice and like it oks when it’s not ok nothing changes. Nothing changes with what I’m doing but at least I get heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:58 AM
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I was having a manic episode and reaching out for help
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:57 AM
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No you’re specifically saying I’m bad because I got scars on my dick due to hypersexual behavior during a manic episode. I show distress and trying to get help in another subreddit and you use it as ammo against me, you suck. And you wonder why I hate women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:50 AM
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“Ohh you don’t have the exact argument as me? Then you must have done no research”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:48 AM
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Yeah look how long a manic episode lasts. Don’t tell me how horrible I am for having bipolarism I’ve been told that my whole fucking life and I’m not taking it from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:44 AM
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I said it in a mental health sub Reddit when I was having a manic episode. I have bipolar two
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:40 AM
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Yeah I did when I was having a manic episode dickhead. You must be very obsessed if you had to go that far
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:38 AM
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Yeah I’m openly attacking you because your lifestyle is hedonistic and degeneracy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:37 AM
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Horrible and humiliating for the men. What “your the second place loser I’ve fucked every guy on the block but it’s ok you can take care of me now”. I’d honestly rather be alone forever then date a women that’s been with a ton of men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:35 AM
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I’ve done hookers most transactional thing I’ve ever done
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:34 AM
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I’m pointing out the hypocrisy in my title. And no one man can do 10 women or so that’s how the numbers works. Those whorish women your putting on a pedestal don’t love you they hate you. I mean they like the alpha and want him but us loser men the moment we show sexual or Romantic interest they perceive it as an attack. And all empathy is gone. In addition idk what you’re saying when you butter up the whorish women while talking down to the women who want a family. If you mean the face value th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:00 AM
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Sorry I can’t answer because you arnt debating in good faith
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:32 PM
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Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:59 PM
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Idk bro I’m blackpilled af. But if we notice the issues on the table we can think of solutions easier
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:58 PM
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You’re trying to get me to say no so you can go AH HA! YOUR POINT IS INVALID, without understanding my Point. I think your hypothetical is flawed
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:57 PM
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You know what you right she is a whore
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:36 PM
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Because we are frustrated and lonely?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:26 PM
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I asked one out and then dropped it the other I never asked out. Can you stop straw manning plz.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:25 PM
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Yes because the girl that cleans my Teeth is satans daughter.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:24 PM
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“Oh you don’t have a Harvard study to back up your claims… then your entire point is invalid” <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:22 PM
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It’s more HR is just a women profession. I could say secretary or nurse or fuckin dental hygienist too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:18 PM
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They don’t work there anymore. I’ve gone on trips with these women and other friends, they have been over, we have done things together I’d consider them my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:14 PM
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Yeah sorry I don’t have a Harvard study on my points and have to rely on me and other men’s experiences. If that’s good enough to excuse my whole point ok go ahead believe what you want to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:13 PM
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A salesman who sucks at his job gets fired and finds a new job. A man can’t do that. Besides what are you saying I should stop trying because what I’m selling is if little to no value?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:01 PM
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Couple reasons. First she has put him in the box of “economic unit” basically he does a job in background and stays out of her personal life. She sees him leaving that has a boundary violation. In addition she can perceived it as an insult to her attraction standing. If “he” thinks I’m at his level then other maybe believe it. Insecurity and social signaling.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:58 PM
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Ahh no you right sorry lady
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:54 PM
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I mean there’s no way I can prove it to you, so go ahead and believe it if you want. Rationalization or projection or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:53 PM
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How often can I play the game when Ive being losing nonstop for 10 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:51 PM
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Why would a women still be looking for “the one” in her mid thirties. What she couldn’t find him when she was at her peak?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:49 PM
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“Your experiences are invalid because they are yours” yeah ok. Despite the fact men below here are agreeing with me. Also don’t use my photo I shared that with you in confidence!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:48 PM
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Yeah I had to figure out all this while being alone and unwanted, and so did a majority men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:47 PM
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She’s only annoyed when a man she doesn’t like dares shows interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:46 PM
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Ok I meet both these women at work but whatever delude yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:43 PM
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They don’t criticize Chad Cockington for it. But for men they deem average or loser they hate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:42 PM
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So what wait 15 years until it doesn’t matter anymore for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:40 PM
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In general. Lot of women friends irl fit exactly this model tho. Know one who constant said “men are pigs and just want to fuck me” while telling me in detail how she liked dating a 45 at age 19 because he bought here stuff and all she had to do is fuck him. Or my other friend that tells me literally every time the guy she was with despite me telling her it upsets me and not to do it. Almost like it’s a compulsion
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:39 PM
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But the ones trying to find “the one” just got out of their promiscuous phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:36 PM
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Most of time they arnt. At that point they are companions so they stick together
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:14 PM
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No one has sympathy for me so it’s consistent
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:42 PM
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How are you here bro I thought Russia was banned from Reddit makes sense your responding not too many idiots like my up at 330am in America
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:34 AM
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Fair bias is a real issue here good points
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:29 AM
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The western world
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:27 AM
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I get it. It’s a very good list. I’d just think the desire to have children would override the struggles for a majority of women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:26 AM
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Thank you geez sick of the “the world is so bad I can’t bring someone in”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:14 AM
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“Almost die” sure Jan
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:20 AM
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Rejected try again
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:14 PM
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I was hoping some would ask this question
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:14 PM
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The flair literally says ask women what do you expect sweetie
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:10 PM
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https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db260.htm A few lines Under figure one
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:09 PM
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Crazy how bias works
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:04 PM
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But why take the risk for driving if it’s so dangerous why not walk or leave near your work and shop so you can walk everywhere. Saying that such a sizable amount of women die from childbirth is false. It’s literally .19% and .018% in the USA There a 1% risk over life of dying in a car crash. orders of magnitude Different. So really you shouldn’t be driving it’s too dangerous or debilitating
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:04 PM
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The majority women say they want children. And no their husbands arnt taking the forms and filling them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:58 PM
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Well at least people that think this way won’t pass on their genes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:57 PM
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Just seems to be a very common take here more then just some naysayers
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:56 PM
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Fair reason thanks for your anwser
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:42 PM
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Do you live in the Congo or rural India? If that’s the case fine don’t have kids
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:42 PM
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Is your experience the same as all other kids experience our your potential kids experience
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:42 PM
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Ok that’s fine but surly you can find a better man
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:41 PM
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You live in first world country the world isn’t “so shitty kids can’t live here” This isn’t the Great Depression
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:40 PM
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I’m not trying to shame her I just shocked at her anwser and showing that shock
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:29 PM
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Nah it’s ok I’ve accepted I’m not very good with women regardless. As for surgery or whatever I don’t care I do it anyway and tell other I feel better so fuck off. Thanks tho for your sympathetic words.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:28 PM
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But was it worth it to have your kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:27 PM
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People to suffer? You live in a first world county with benefits your ancestors couldn’t even comprehend. What you described was medical malpractice and is illegal not a common practice in a hospital
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:25 PM
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Do you say that as a mom with kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:24 PM
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I’m ugly as fuck but get criticized when I say I want surgery to fix some of it. I should “love my body” and “it’s not that big of a deal” why is this different. Unless of course it’s painful or causing debilitating issues like you can’t hold your pee that should be covered
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:23 PM
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I never would support financial abortion I think if you knock her up you have a duty to be a father. If I bring it up it’s generally a hypothetical not a point of mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:21 PM
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Maybe back in the 1600s but medical technology has increased dramatically. Child mortality is very low as is deaths by birth. Anyway getting in a car and driving is far more dangerous and likely to kill you but do you not do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:20 PM
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Bruh how can you say you wish you never had your children? You don’t know if your life would be better without them. Why discount the benefits and memories you have with them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:18 PM
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One is better than none….
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:17 PM
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Ok what am i saying that is logically confusing. I know you said above and I didn’t get it so dumb it down for me. I just don’t understand why killing a fetus is a right.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:57 PM
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Honestly would love to see the reverse of this question asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:29 AM
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Yeah but I had to go thru a few manic episodes because my doctor thought I just had depression so he kept giving me SSRIs. Had he done a deeper dive he maybe would have been able to identify bipolarism and I wouldn’t have to have manic episodes while trying to get better. It’s hell getting in trouble at work, yelling in public, no sleep, head constantly buzzing with ideas and shit, it’s embarrassing once it’s overs
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:26 AM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:22 AM
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I’m not voting to legalize abortion if this is the average women. You got pregnant that’s your problem boo hoo self inflected. “Erm it’s the man’s fault for getting me pregnant” no it’s your fault for letting him get you pregnant you have to be responsible for your body. Most of your “men are lazy because x” are symptoms of depression. Not wanting to go out and meet people? Struggling to connect with people? Not taking care of your hygiene? Maybe telling men how horrible they are from a young ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:16 AM
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Do not ghost him that will ruin his self image. You don’t have to say why it’s not working out or make somthing up. Or maybe try it out and see if you’re surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:01 AM
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Porn addict is a symptom not the cause. Men chronically rejected, or made to feel can’t meet the standards of women or masculinity arnt going to have the confidence or ability to find sexual outlet with women. Porn is the only option, it’s a feedback loop. Inadequate men —> porn as sexual relief —> leads to further feelings of inadequacy and lower social skills —> more porn, you get the idea. The reason men on here are “mean and disrespectful” it’s because they are bitter from years of rejection…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 02:54 AM
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26 None. I’ve accepted I’m horrible with women because I’m not physically attractive, I don’t know how to show her that I’m a romantic option, and I get too anxious when ambiguity occurs. Unfortunately I’m stuck and frankly I’m not getting out any time soon maybe never
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:21 PM
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Well that’s weak to me but I guess some men will buy it. Thanks for sharing prob will make some men reconsider
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:12 PM
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Most men are not having sex. Women assume men have way more sex than they do because they assume they are having the same amount of sex the women are having. But anyway Going to the hospital is the equivalent of the abortion here that would me the crash (unexpected pregnancy) is always solved by abortion. The crash is to show how mitigation factors don’t always stop consequences and can’t excuse those consequences. Yes we should have help for rape victims. But again if you’re having an abortion …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:52 PM
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I genuinely don’t know. It’s illogical and subconscious desire
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:36 PM
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Yes we are cooked
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:33 PM
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If protection is sabotaged I think you could have a case. Still contraception is life a seat belt it decreases the chance but an accident can still happen. Wearing a seat belt doesn’t make you consequence free. I understand rape is under reported but if you’re already going in for an abortion why would you not say the real reason why? A case of rape is a lot more under stable then a case of “I just don’t want it” 25% are functionally celibate with less then 5 sexual encounters (like the event no…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:31 PM
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Fair point. I think you can make the point super early on there’s nothing to defend.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:10 PM
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My grandma is taking my time my energy causing me stress. All of that effects the body, cortisol increases, organs like heart have to work harder, you make poor choices under-stress (maybe you start smoking hurting your lungs) your body is def effected by caring for someone else. You can’t fix that but that’s not the point, the goal is make some men feel sympathy to your cause
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:08 PM
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I’m 7.5 and I never have sex so clearly not too big a deal
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:05 PM
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I’d like to visit, probably not live there
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:03 PM
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Then write laws that clearly protect it. You can fix that. If it’s a clear case then no problem, if it’s a merky case that’s what courts are for. I have to keep circling back to tho. Why is the women’s views able to override the fetus right to live? Can I kill my grandma as the primary caretaker because I don’t want to take care of her anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:01 PM
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I’m sorry having unprotected sex has a potential consequence. If I drive recklessly for fun there is consequence of a crash. If I eat like a slop and get fat that’s a consequence. No one kidnaps women knocks them out and they wake up pregnant (unless rape). It’s a choice you made and it had consequences. The male view “when it happens to them” is completely irrelevant to me and about 25% of men because we never have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:58 PM
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So a women killing her baby in utero is fine? Because it’s a medical treatment? If I have a grandmother and I’m her only care taker can I kill her because I don’t want to care for her anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:55 PM
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I think men cry about the draft solely as a whatsboutism or because they don’t support the cause. The idea of men needing to fight to defend their nation I believe is not only fair but often necessary. No one cares about circumcision unfortunately. I think it’s a worthless surgery. It would the equivalent of cutting off your finger tips at birth. It serves no purpose. Abortion is more complex it def has a purpose and the fetus life argument def also has a purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:22 PM
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So when it’s chronicly denied to them you understand why they would be frustrated
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:16 PM
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Yeah my mom said the same thing to me. But guess what I’m still glad I exists. It’s not fair for us to say others wouldn’t want to live because they might have hardships. Also I said make it legal for medical purposes to save the mom, but you can’t use that reason to excuse all other forms of abortion. Just because you can speed to get someone to the hospital doesn’t mean you should be able to speed all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:15 PM
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Killing a baby - human right
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:13 PM
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Laws start protecting humans after they are born because it’s protecting the mother beforehand because yes she is the vessel. You can’t sue or charge a fetus because it has no movement. That doesn’t mean a fetus is completely absent, en ventre sa mère, a fetus can inherit property. Idk you seem like you saying “if something depends on someone else to survive then we have the right to kill it as not to inconvenience others”. A fetus is independent in the sense it has different dna than mom and da…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:12 PM
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I’d agree medical necessity is a real reason that should be protected but that is 2% of all abortions. What another women who don’t want a baby because timing, or her job etc. which is far more common
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:05 PM
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Those horror films are basically depicting rape which yes i would say is a violation. But pregnancy which is a natural consequence of sex, your not being forced to get pregnant it’s how your body works.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:04 PM
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Teenage angst means it would have better if you were aborted. Nah bro this ain’t it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:02 PM
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I have sex so infrequently this isn’t a problem I havnt had sex in 10 months. I can count all the times I’ve had sex on one hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:00 PM
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Men who are sexless for a long time fit into the category. 24% had no sex in the last year. In addition being a virgin as a man is so humiliating I doubt many would admit that even anonymously. If these men arnt involved at all in abortion at all, then they wont have much attachment to it anyway. It’s a non factor to them. There is also moral objections to killing a fetus. So there needs to be a pretty good reason that not only overcomes the moral objections but also the nonfactor element
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:59 PM
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Basic human need huh. So those incels have a point?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:54 PM
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What about the fetus why does the women’s wants override the life of the fetus?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:53 PM
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Most abortions have no medical purpose and are done for personal reasons like timing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:51 PM
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What about empathy for the fetus?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:51 PM
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“You can just stay lonely and unfulfilled deal with it.” Really feel like being sympathetic to abortion after that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:49 PM
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As a man who is rejected and sexless why should I defend women’s right to have sex with other men and end the pregnancy. I hate to bring this up but women generally don’t care about struggling men they are incels or losers. Why keep the chain going when additional parts of the chain are broken and sent going to get repaired. Seems like I’m giving them something and getting no benefit in return. What benefit does it have? In addition the moral conflict of killing a living fetus, what is a greater…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:48 PM
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Because your organs are yours. Your dna your body. A fetus is a separate entity it’s not an organ of the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:41 PM
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A newborn baby can’t live without her mother’s constant support. It has the potential to be an independent human but it’s not now. That’s how that argument sounds A fetus is still an independent being developing it. She doesn’t have your dna nor dads dna she has her own dna. Sperm is jsut the man’s dna and an egg is your dna and yes you shoudl have control over what you do with your own cells
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:05 PM
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Evolutionary that’s not true. Women and men evolved in an equal setting, pre civilization. Women had tools like mate choice, rejection, collations, pair bonding, duel matting, cuckoldry, paternity confusions etc. if a women really didn’t want to have children she wouldn’t have passed on those genes it wasn’t men just forcing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:58 PM
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Pregnancy isn’t an oppressive force that big patriarchy forces on women. It’s a natural process that is essentially for mankind. Getting pregnant isn’t a violation of bodily autonomy it’s a consequence of unprotected sex with the exception of rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:54 PM
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This is actually a different study but it shows similar results. I can’t find a free link for the other one https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/1472-6874-13-29
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:42 AM
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Turnaway Study. Look up the reasons percentages. The above percentages in my description are from that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:21 AM
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No that’s silly. America is a first world country. You’re reading too many current events, and getting too gloomy. Take a step back and look around on an individual level is your neighborhood your place your situation so horrible that the the baby would suffer (not have hardships but actually suffer).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:17 AM
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Yes the fetuses body can’t be ripped out of the womb and killed to help the support the mom who wants out of the pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:13 AM
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Fair if abortion is illegal then child support must be payed I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:11 AM
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Educational or career concerns are a huge reason for abortions. In addition relationship issues. Financial and timing (I don’t want a baby now at 24) what do you say are the main reasons for abortion
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:10 AM
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A sex toy isn’t a replacement for human connection. The rest is fine (except the therapist but I guess that’s just me)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:08 AM
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See this is kinda what gets me. Men have issues regarding attraction, social stunting, lost of blue collar work, lost of identity as a male provider and much more. Anyone hit with all that would be pretty upset. Simply going “oh well go to a therapist” shows you want to put it on someone else and your not whiling to engage. Notice I never said sex or date. While it a concern your not going to having that when your above life is all messed up. I mean be skeptical but not all men are just opening …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:06 AM
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The right? What you mean the reality? Why does the state of pregnancy give the women the right to terminate the fetuses life. This is what makes the debate so hard moral disagreement with different starting assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:01 AM
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But why is ending a fetus life because your too busy right now medical care?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:57 AM
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Most mothers whether they wanted it or not will reach attachment with the child. It might take longer but it generally happens. Even mother who wanted to be mothers sometimes takes some time to get deeply attached to her baby but the material imprinting is there. Also your point in the church is wrong. Look up your local hospitals, your foster centers, your orphanages, your soup kitchens, your urban missions, natural disaster responders, etc and good chance they are associated with a church. Lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:47 AM
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Well ideally the lady who wanted to abort the baby now raises it and becomes a loving mother who is so happy for the life of her child lol. But in all seriousness we have social programs for exactly this. The church the biggest pro life organization on earth is also the largest charitable organization on earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:19 AM
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Because the unborn baby is seen as human or a developing human. Not killing the fetus is respecting the fetuses life. Your kidney thing wouldn’t work because you’re forcing someone to give up something for someone else’s benefit. It’s the same with the fetus your forcing death on the fetus for the benefit of the mother. Pregnancy is hard but it’s also a natural human event it’s not a forced upon traumatic injury like someone attacking you with a knife. Continuing a pregnancy after getting pregna…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:16 AM
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This is an interesting point. I don’t like libertarianism because I don’t think you have a free society without homogenous morality and informed practical citizens which I don’t think any libertarian movement preserve. Basically it devolves into hedonism Still interesting point could see it convincing some people
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:08 AM
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I don’t think you want to go down that route because you’re going to jail everytime you get your period then. But no that is not life. There is no way an egg can become a human without the introduction of a sperm cell at which part the egg stop being entirely your dna and your cell
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:05 AM
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How is it selfish? What did the people who had children during the Great Depression were all selfish? I’m going to guess you live in a first world country and have a life other mothers in other places of the world could only imagine. And thinking that’s not good enough for you that’s selfishness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:03 AM
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I think you could make a compelling case for dead people organs being taken by default. I’d only worry doctors wouldn’t help you if they knew they could sell your organs after a car crash or somthing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:01 AM
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If the majority of women hated pregnancy and warned every women that pregnancy would ruin her life completely humanity would have died out a long time ago
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:58 AM
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Uh yeah I don’t think we should euthanize fetus just because they might have some hardships in the future. I think that’s a weak reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:56 AM
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“If you against abortion you want to have billionaires rape kids” do you listen to yourself bro what lmao. No kid is going “gee life sucks I wish I my mom aborted me because I’d rather not exist then have any hardships!”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:52 AM
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Your confusing legal systems and moral systems in a foreign historical era. Yes common laws says a legal person begins at birth but that doesn’t mean fetus wasn’t life. A dog is still life just not a human. That being said common law still has fetus interests. A fetus could inherit, be placed in contracts, etc provided the fetus survives. what the fetus didn’t have was independent legal standing, you can’t sue or charge a fetus with a crime. Just because the fetus didn’t have independent legal d…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:39 AM
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I don’t know your situation you could be living in a hut with no running water idk, but I feel people over estimate their future children’s needs. Like look How we were raised in the past. A Great Depression family still raised 4 kids on a basically nothing while their crops couldn’t grow. And yet those people still grew up to be successful or at least grew up to be functioning members of society. If you wait forever you’ll run out of time. I feel this is the main reason birthrates are decreasin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:11 AM
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See you’re missing the point of argument of the pro life people. They don’t see the fetus as simply part of the women they see the fetus as separate life. Thats why those arguments fall flat to them because in there views they are protecting a life which isn’t just part of her body.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:07 AM
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So I show my sympathy by saying the child never should have been born? Idk this feels like hardship is a cause for euthanasia which I would oppose. I don’t think most children are going “gee this sucks I wish I was never born”. I think people who actually think hardships should equal euthanasia are depressed….. I want to lower childhood hardship but thru death? Idk seems a tad much for me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:03 AM
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If you talk to a mother with a baby is she really going to go “that pregnancy was horrible why did I even do this” there a very good reason women endure it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:19 AM
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You have a very sizable amount of voters who simply are always pro life and will always vote that way. Same with pro choice but in order for you to secure the votes you need to protect abortion you need additional votes. It’s in your best interest to convince men to your side.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:14 AM
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“I wish my parents aborted me” insane thing to say. I highly doubt the majority of kids born poor would rather have not been born at all. I mean look at Mexicans who immigrate here. Same with other minorities like blacks and rural whites. Born dirt poor but they still manage to have 6 brothers and sisters. A young professional yuppie women who lives in an urban neighborhood isn’t financially challenged like those guys. I don’t the financial argument especially with welfare and services is a good…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:09 AM
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I understand pragmatically that people’s morals stop when their line is on the neck. Prob a good reason here. But for modern young men who get nothing or extremely little why care, it’s still a non factor. And besides some men really would step up in an unexpected pregnancy so your argument wouldn’t work on them at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:01 AM
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Literally 2% of abortions is for the mother’s survival. Working in a hospital you definitely see that more but that’s availability bias. If you don’t want to get pregnant at all then why have sex. Why not force a condom every time, install a IUD or take the pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:58 AM
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A man who doesn’t want to pay child support isn’t going to fight against abortion. It would be shooting himself in the foot. He’s be screwed if she wanted to keep it because there’s no choice for him. However with legal abortion there is a choice for women. Why should she get that right but not him. (I’m not supporting deadbeat dads I’m just clearing up that point. Why it “ruining her life” is valid but “ruining his life” isn’t valid)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:54 AM
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But why should it be a right? You’re killing the potential baby in a fetus. There’s got to be a pretty good reason to not allow that but to fight and sympathize with it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:51 AM
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It’s a direct attack or damage to his core identity. Being a man isn’t simply XY and dick n balls. There is masculinity, stoicism, strength, confidence, defence, sex appeal etc. for many men this stuff doesn’t come 100% naturally it must be learned and proven. One of the main ways men show their masculinity to women. So when a woman rejects them, belittles them, or insults them based on the traits above. It’s not only an attack on the traits they want to possess but an attack from someone they w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:48 AM
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Behave? No. Take it for granted? Definitely
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 10:47 PM
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Therapy only is not effective for Treatment resistant depression that’s a scientific finding
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:41 PM
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Yes I change medication
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:54 AM
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Well I’m glad you got better.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:48 AM
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Ok thanks for answering the question very directly. Under your advice I guess being black and disadvantaged is your problem and white people shouldn’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:45 AM
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I do appreciate your gentle support it much more likely to convince me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:40 AM
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I don’t get why it’s so hard for people to understand that therapy isn’t the best all end all. In phyc or really in all medicine no treatment will work every time for every patient. What except therapy?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:38 AM
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What disgusting things did I say about women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:22 AM
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It’s not as important because you can have it whenever you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:51 AM
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It sounds like you do have friends that despite you think are sexist, you still care about. And it’s frustrating you. Is that correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:34 AM
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Ok you believe women get too much attention and to many admires fine. Men get no attention and no admires. Sure you have to seif they the men to find a good one but at least you have that option. Men have no interest from women it’s a totally different ball game.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:33 AM
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Idk why would you be why would you be worrying about them anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:01 AM
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When did I say that? Women don’t have to date men they arnt attracted to. But those men who are chronically rejected will have negative mental effects placed upon them. Rejecting them and then saying “it’s not a big deal you’re being a sexist pig” isn’t fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:36 AM
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So are you the one telling a man that sex isn’t important while having sex whenever you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:34 AM
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Simply going “seek therapy” when a man is trying to voice his frustrations to you is weak and you know it. It’s honestly almost a betrayal, some lays down his issues to you and you won’t even engage you just say “that’s someone else’s problem”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:30 AM
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Voicing frustrations doesn’t make you a bad guy. You say it’s fine to be lonely but for some people it’s not. Some people want a change in their life but can’t achieve it. Thats not somthing to say get over it. Desiring Human connection is normal and if that makes you an incel then your crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:28 AM
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Well thanks. Limited support from family and not really from friends. Mostly internal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:25 AM
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I feel many people like short sided decisions. For example if I date someone I plan on having the relationship last as long as it can, I never think “I’ll do this until I get board”. One of my friends said she dated a guy 20 years older than her for a few months because he bought her stuff then left when he had finance issues. I then heard a similar story from another friend. Yet another friend dumbed a guy after a few dates because he misspelled a word a few times in his texts. Like I don’t get…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:25 AM
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I had cancer 3 years ago. It was just showing a weird side effect. I can’t have pickles or anything with tyronsine because I’ll go into shock. But this isn’t about being the bigger victim and I don’t want sympathy for that I want to be able to talk to friend without being ripped apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:19 AM
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The brain is so much more than an organ. Me know how the liver works, we know how the heart works, we know how the lungs work. We honestly have a limited understanding of the brain. We don’t have a “this surgery will remove the depression” like “this surgery will remove the tumor”. It’s a constant struggle for those suffering from its shortcomings and deserves respect
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:16 AM
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Jesse what are you talking about. Also therapy as a treatment can be criticizing acting like it a perfect treatment is just bad medicine especially for somthing as complex as phyc
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:12 AM
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How am I being sexist? I listing out my experience and my conclusions from it. Just because they arnt 100% flattering of women don’t mean they are sexist. When someone is frustrated and exhausted yeah they arnt going to be a ray of sunshine. But that’s literally what makes a good friend just listening and being there and not trying to get out of the convo. You don’t have to come up with solutions for somthing you can’t understand, you just have to listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:10 AM
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I take them consistently generally around 3 to 4 months. Unless it causes major issues, like one I kept falling asleep while driving so had to stop that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:33 AM
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Mental health isn’t a broken leg nor is romantic failures. Mental health treatments are notoriously variable to the patient. Therapy isn’t the best all end all and perfect for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:00 PM
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Because it’s a debate. If someone does give me empathy I always say thank you, look around.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 09:59 PM
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Is a man frustrated at his chronic romantic failure and becomes fatalistic an incel to you. How should a man facing chronic rejection act according to you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 08:06 PM
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I get annoyed when women say how men have no need for sex. You’re right in the sense it’s not water but human connection in romance social and yes sexual is huge for a social animal. Saying it’s not a big deal while women can sex whenever they want? Basically it’s a non issue for them. Thats annoying. How would you feel if you couldn’t get a job and everyone around you said “quit complaining no one owes you a job it’s not a need you can get on welfare”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 08:03 PM
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Phyciatrist in this day and age are trained to handle depression anxiety and adhd anything more complicated is a completely curved ball to them. At least in my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:26 PM
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Thank you for your sympathy. I don’t think the women who would appreciate that type of man are out and about in a position to be asked out anyway. they definitely arnt at a bar (I hate bars anyway to not much of a lost)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:21 PM
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How about your friend
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:17 PM
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I’d agree doctors right now doctors think everything is “adhd, depression or anxiety” that’s it. And SSRI and Adderall fix everything
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:14 PM
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Back to my fault 🙄 sorry but I’ve told you therapy doesn’t work for me. It’s not the be all end all of mental health. I think it’s incredibly overrated. And guess what some medications don’t work for people but therapy somehow does everytime? Some people don’t respond to it, just like every other treatment for mental health
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:13 PM
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But that’s because you see him from the view of a mother son not as an average man. There’s no risk he’s going to misinterpret your kindness and romantic intrest. Nor is he using that to deceive you, at least I’d hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:11 PM
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Exactly. You need to be into it. I’ve tired but I can’t it feels like pulling teeth. I dread everytime I had to go. I don’t think men work well with therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:10 PM
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I go to my doc and try new prescriptions despite the horrible side effects. I’m currently on MAOI which I literally can’t eat pickles on 😐. I’m not a basement dweller I have motivation. I own a house at 26, I have a job that pays. I travel all the time for work and fun, I just camped at a national park is last week. I’m not a bum. I just feel disconnected from society not in a lame “no one understands me” but in a the values and lifestyles of people feel fake and short sided.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:07 PM
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I’ve tried it twice. I hate it. I hate explaining personal stuff to some who is basically a paid stranger. I like to follow people who can explain this scientifically (because that to me makes sense to me nurochemixals evolution or physically etc. also I don’t mean Rick and Morty level 1000iq shit lol) or have real life experience
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:01 PM
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I listed some above but have some more. My other sister is maybe a little more sympathy but still when I talk romantic struggles it’s generally “just try harder, your not asking out enough girls” gee yeah let’s keep getting rejected that’s fun. Can you at least acknowledge that sucks and would limit your resolve. With my few women friends it’s “well that’s rough, ask more girl out” or after I explain too much it’s “well idk what to tell you” and convo shuts down. Asking out a girl is basically h…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:58 PM
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I didn’t mean this to be about my bipolarism I just wanted to show a lack of empathy outside of romantic situations. Thanks for sympathy tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:53 PM
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Go to therapy doesn’t help when some is struggling. That’s a long term advice but not the first and only things you say. How about a “that’s sucks I feel for you” I never get even that. Or some positive feedback about you, or somthing to make you have a more positive outlook in life. It’s not like I’m calling once a day maybe like once a month. Women definitely feel more empathy for their sons. Why do you think so? Much like how fathers protect their daughters because they know what some men wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:50 PM
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I have it from my actual doctor it’s not a question. All I need sometimes is some sympathy but I can’t get it from anyone. I’ve been on 11 medications over 4 years and none have worked
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:46 PM
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I have a prescription but they never work long term I’ve prob been thru 11 different medications with none working. Sometimes I need to voice those frustrations but can’t
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:44 PM
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How do you have empathy? What an example of a situation you’d feel empathy for a young man specificly and how would you express it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:43 PM
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I agree with your points. I seriously think women have evolutionary programming against empathizing with men outside their sons. Mostly because if women empathize with a man it could lead her to become involved in a man she doesn’t want or is unfit. Those who were unsympathetic to men and depended on men being 100% competent to reproduce with had a major advantage. The only time a mom can sympathize with a man is her son because she is her direct lineage. Again it all comes back to evolution. Ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:02 AM
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It’s an external rejection of identity. It’s basically confirmation that you have failed in an aspect you are insecure about. I often hear “you shouldn’t be insecure about it and it wouldn’t matter” that’s unrealistic a man who struggles with women or doesn’t look like he’d want is going to be insecure. “Go to therapy” men don’t work on external validation like women do much more external rejection and internal satisfaction. Wouldn’t you feel patronized if you thought “I’m ugly because I can’t i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:05 AM
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When interacting women first impressions are literally everything. All women at first don’t trust you. You need to build up that you are indeed a safe man first that your someone who she can talk openly too and has her best intrest at heart. Then you can talk about all your quirks and expectations. This takes a month or two not years
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:58 PM
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No. If you have mental baggage and you’re talking to even a friend do you dump that all on him or her at once? No that’s a disservice. You don’t know how to react it’s too much info and they don’t know you well enough to understand and process it. It’s the same with dating. Get to know each other before you start getting deeper.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:34 PM
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Because your first meeting her. I’d like to tell my women everything but you gotta build that. Ie don’t scare the hoes 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:46 PM
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Not off putting at all, but I’d have to be careful. I admire a women who has skill that a man can’t replicate. Caring, affection, able to guide (hard to explain but kinda call out or place her man back on the path when he’s struggling or lost), able to see extra things I might miss. I’d say these are feminine skills as masculine skills are often more direct and “logical” (I know that sounds mean but logical isn’t always correct the world isn’t often “logical”) Unfortunately women often think I’m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:51 PM
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A loser (don’t worry I am one too)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 04:12 AM
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The man’s job will always be to decrease the stress of the woman. The women is the caregiver not because we’re taking advantage of her, it’s because she’s better at it for the reasons above. That doesn’t go away especially by 4. But here the important part, how the man decreases a woman’s stress is variable. Of course there is the classic, taking care of financials, and protection, but that can also include taking care of caregiving when she needs help or a break. Idk what men are acting like ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 05:14 PM
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It’s fine but also I’d be whiling to accept some sex as long as it wasnt frequent hooks ups or double digit body counts
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 02:01 AM
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Demanding the man does an equal amount of the work in the same manner as the mother sounds good on paper but ignore biology. If a mother hears her baby cry she is pulled into action literally from her core CNS, a male can hear it and know he should care but his CNS doesn’t he has to use his logic and PFC to know he should care. A woman is more caring, empathic, loving, softer, and more attuned to the babies needs. She literally has the ability to feed it on her body. It’s the males job to take s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:23 PM
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I’m confused you say “women were conditioned to be motherly”, then you say “men should care about their children more”. The vast majority of men do care about their children. Just in different ways. Women are naturally more caring, gentler, and more intelligent to the babies and children needs that’s way they are responsible for direct care. Men are better are outside responsibility that’s why they are responsible for external family support. Money, protection, etc. sure maybe they can be more i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 06:34 PM
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I’m sorry but that’s silly. Even when society didn’t exist and we were all savages mother still love their children even more. Animal mothers love their children deeply. If anything society gives you more opportunities to be less motherly. You have career opportunities, the ability to give children up, abortion, etc. Stop using “muh society” to justify everything that is natural and inherit. If you became a mother your really telling me you’d go “this child is a waste and will ruin me get rid of…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 05:34 PM
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Women say that as a hyperbole of frustration. It however lacks the nuance of male behavior. Which is understandable because they are outsiders trying to understand our thoughts, yet also being heavily invested in us. This isn’t exclusive to women we do it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 10:48 PM
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I’d be shocked she have no motherly instincts. Yes I would I’d be bad but I’d try. Again I can’t emphasize enough would be absolutely dumb founded if a women seriously carried a bandy gave birth and held & fed it, and went “I don’t want this”. Mothers almost always stay and protect their babies even when it’s killing them, it’s one of the things I respect and love about women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:20 PM
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Ask women who have had kids. They are going To be better equipped to answer it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:18 PM
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Idk I think she just doesn’t show it well. She texted me saying she cares about me and I can always talk like a few days after. Say her again last month. She was still pretty hesitant to see me and do things. Told her I was over it but she still was hesitant. I did somthing kinda mean (she lent me her rental car and I took it with another friend further then I prob should have and she was PISSED) honestly think she still is. My main fear is she’s constructed an image of me that is “he’s a bad gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:16 PM
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Imagine if you followed that always “she’s touching my leg because she’s really nice and it means nothing lmao”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 02:58 PM
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Yeah… All I’m saying is there a difference between me playfully trying to arouse my girl vs her genuinely not wanting to fuck me right now. And obviously a scared girl is out of the question should even be a debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 12:47 AM
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You can say no forcefully if you need to. Yeah denying him sex is always going to be a little uncomfortable it’s fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 08:42 PM
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Ahh it’s ok we deserve it. I mean it is shameful and pathetic but like you said it’s our only option. We shouldn’t be normalizing it tho, it last resort due to Desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 05:10 PM
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If I see a women is scared or super hesitant I not only won’t have sex with her I don’t want to. Having sex when one or both parties arnt fully into it sucks. I’m only going to have sex if she agrees but I will push a little bit because the push pull is a dynamic in sexual attraction and relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 04:50 PM
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Ok whatever. I know you’re not right. Women say one thing but want another. If I waited forever and she jsut keep saying no the relationship isn’t going to work. I’m going to push a tiny bit like, “cmon baby I want you I think you’re so hot”. Most women want and expect that, but if she’s absolutely doesnt want it then that’s fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 04:23 PM
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If we keep trying to be with you. I mean like actually see you. Keep inviting you, get excited when you show up somewhere unexpected, talk about you with others (ask the others they will tell you).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 04:00 PM
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No. I’m not going to stop pursuing her in the long term. You can say “I don’t want sex” and I’ll say ok but I’m going to keep trying to sex tomorrow. If you keep saying no the relationship is eventually going to end.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 03:58 PM
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Fine but I’m not going to stop in the long term. I’m only a man. And if you keep saying no forever, then it’s not going to work out. I want to meet your needs but I have limits…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 03:52 PM
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How so. What would you say is too far on my end.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 03:50 PM
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You’ve never heard playing hard to get. If I didn’t play her game she’d go “what are you gay” or “don’t you find me attractive?”. If I just folded immediately I’d never make any progress
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 03:50 PM
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How is she saying she doesn’t want to have sex yet? I’ve meet women who say they don’t want to have sex yet because they are teasing me and playing playing hard to get. I’m going to chase you a bit in response to that. How do I knew she will see that as cute or a little off putting. I’d never want to make a women scared or feel she has to fuck me to feel safe. That sex would suck and I’d feel horrible when I found out. But I’m only a man I can’t read your mind and body all the time. I make mista…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 03:48 PM
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In my experience two men can be doing the exact same thing and one can be labeled pushing her and another can be labeled initiating. I know ever girl is different but we are only human. If somthing worked on one girl or another guy did somthing and if it worked on her then you gotta expect we are going to try it again. Yeah if she’s scared or hesitant then it’s a no go no one is debating that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 03:43 PM
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Sure if she flat out says no. But a lot of time it’s “I don’t know…” or “maybe”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 03:40 PM
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No not push a girl that’s clearly doesn’t want sex. If she looks scared and is hesitant then yeah no go. But a lot of the time you have to push he “your so beautiful, I want you, I find you so attractive”. She’s never going to be the one to initiate sex. If you expect her to make the first move you’ll never get any and look like a pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 03:39 PM
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Really… no. Anything women give up is a direct removal of their leverage. Not necessarily their rights but definitely their leverage. Hense they are very defensive of them. I’d say maybe be more whiling to date guys you find in more precarious situations. Don’t discount a guy your attracted too because he’s a friend or he’s a coworker, you can find a great guy anywhere. Unfortunately women are naturally very picky at first lot of evolutionary pressures. is he safe? Is going to protect me? Is he …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 03:36 PM
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Ahhh just humor her
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 03:21 PM
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Kinda hard to say, because I’m not a women. I’d assume caring but masculine in thought and appearance, calm, stoic, whiling to bend. I’d prob become a lot more picky because I’m a women now, I have a lot more options. Idk what I’d find then but I’d assume it would be the opposite. Feminine men, childish, overly ideological. Prob traditional. Wouldn’t want to be a whore. I can get pregnant now. Even now tho sex with randoms is stressful, anxious, and overly all not very fun until I can let my gua…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 03:20 PM
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If you don’t push her for sex a bit you never will get any. And then she will break up with you because you arnt “connecting” and he “couldn’t make a move”. This is another case of women saying one thing but wanting another. It’s fine ladies I know this is just how you are, but I mean I can’t do what you say and be successful so I’m not going to lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 03:05 PM
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I’m sure there are guys who have bad intentions, but you gotta understand a lot of guys are just awkward and don’t know exactly what to say. They arnt creeps but get labeled as so.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 05:13 AM
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Well that’s a great way to make a friend. Besides women sooo rarely engage back because they always suspect you’re just talking to them to take advantage of them, or you’re just unattractive. Women say “be forward with your intentions” but if you are then “your being too forward you see me as an object” Look I understand there is an emotional aspect to this which makes it hard to understand logically for us guys. That being said the only constant is that If she finds you attractive you can get a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 05:11 AM
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It’s really no interest shown in return. I can only hold a convo for so long if you’re not bouncing back. Especially when I’m not obvious trying to flirt with you when I first meet you (like I wouldnt in a casual environment). You don’t have to show interest in return (even when you theoretically would but you just don’t want) too but know your missing out and your making less likely men will converse and ask you out later.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:36 AM
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I find creep isn’t actually being creepy it’s being attractive vs not attractive. Think about it though ugly guy say “your so beautiful” vs hot guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:34 AM
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You end up in friend zone if your unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 01:04 AM
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Well yeah I’d say you’re stunted. Women and weak men will lie to you and say your not but I’m not going to lie to you. You don’t know how to communicate your sexuality nor romantic desires and you should know how too by 25. It’s ok I don’t have many friends, and only lost my virginity because I payed a hooker to take it, so I’d say overall your doing better then me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 02:27 AM
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Boo fuckin hoo war is part of our nature, world peace ain’t happening. Women are always going to have the advantage while saying they are disadvantaged its how they gain their power. Women can’t compete with men directly so they have to use their social skills and pull to get the effects they want. Thats all they are doing simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 02:23 AM
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Easy evolution. Women risk a lot with a relationships being at the mercy of a much stronger man, being vulnerable during pregnancy birth and child rearing, limited time of fertility and huge times of weakness. If they are going to commit they need to be sure that it’s a great man they can’t waste their energy on a low value man. Luckily for them men play into this by all offering themselves up giving women plenty of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 02:02 AM
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None. The best way to get laid is 1- be attractive 2- agree with everything she says even if it’s totally BS. The point of manosphere at the end of the day I believe is for frustrated men to communicate and be validated by each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 01:19 AM
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You know how much. The point is inadequacy is a big deal for men, especially in sex. Women don’t respect inexperienced men because they expect their men to competent in a relationship. This applies to many aspects including sex. Being pathetic is the biggest turn off and not getting a lot of sex is pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 01:16 AM
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There’s a difference between “fucking” and making love. Just like for women men get a very strong reaction from sexual release. So of course men want to have sex with a women they are attracted too, that’s literally like the sign of attraction. And guess what it’s the same for women even if they are more hesitant. When you withhold Sex for extended amount of time your basically saying your not attracted to him. Of course he doesn’t like that and the relationship takes a major hit. You’re indirec…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 06:31 AM
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Why do you need your equal participation cake? If you’re talking about male violence then talk about it you don’t need to bring up other topics too because discussing one problem doesn’t invalidate an unrelated one….
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 06:44 PM
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Well I’m afraid with that perspective your probably not going to find many men who want to be exclusive and if they say they do they are prob lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 07:09 PM
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Why would you date a women who is actively being intimate with other men? If you find nothing wrong with that you’re very much the exception not the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 06:06 PM
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These men arnt getting sex because they don’t respect promiscuous women they arnt getting sex because women don’t find them attractive. How can you expect someone to remain respectful when they are told “your not good enough for me but all these guys are, stop complaining” Imagine your rejected from getting hired repeatedly and your potential employers keep saying “your not enough but this candidate is, now quit complaining the right job will come along eventually (maybe)” you’d be resentful too…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 06:03 PM
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You have the right to be promiscuous as you want. But men also have the right to not respect nor date you over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 06:39 AM
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Well can you 100% blame them? As a women would you be mad if you wernt allowed to have a job simply because your a women? Women are able to participate and most men are not. That state will breed resentment. The goal isn’t to tell the men to deal with it and stop complaining it’s to make participating not matter to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 01:29 AM
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So are you just going to “we don’t know anything so nothing matters” nonsense?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 11:24 PM
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Men don’t want those women they are upset so many women want that lifestyle. Most believe it’s because of media pushing, a lack of consequences, and endorsement of hedonistic lifestyle. Considering we live in a sex obsessed, pleasure obsessed, instant validation, world with unlimited birth control I’d tend to agree. Seeing a world which women are empowered to join but most men are not allowed to resentment woudl only be natural. Not endorsing the resentment I think most men should not participat…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 11:23 PM
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“Oh you like airplanes? List every single one” Bruh what are you talking about. Your asking someone to summarize every book in the library.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 11:18 PM
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Wow really deep socrates. Thats simply not true. Simply being ignorant is putting yourself at a major disadvantage
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 11:03 PM
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Women have the right to do it but men have the right to not accept it in their partner. Not all women want to have sex with every guy they know, men would rather have those women in a stable long term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 11:02 PM
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Because not knowing is chaos. It means there is a major problem with no way to fix it. Identifying and evaluating the problems and emotions is step one to fixing it. Most men can’t rely on “it will work itself out”. If you wait to get pretty you will be ugly forever, if you wait for the right girl you will be lonely forever. If you identify the problem and try to fix it you MIGHT have a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 10:38 PM
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Because they need meaning and conclusion. Especially to an issue so existential as my am I undesired and why am I alone no matter what I do?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 10:30 PM
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Took a long time and a few dissociative episodes to accept this. Never experienced it prob never will, but no anxiety about it anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 10:28 PM
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It’s true unfortunately. You’re not something she naturally craves and will go crazy for. You are the backup plan when she realizes she can’t have what she really wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 10:25 PM
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You can bitch and moan about being in any position and envy every other one all you want. As a man I can tell you all the shortcomings I have while telling you all the advantages you have. If you can’t objectively see any benifit in having a family or offspring then yeah it’s a bad deal. But most women and people are not in such a negative pessimistic mood all the time and can see benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 10:24 PM
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Not wanting single mothers, fatties, slurs, or gold diggers is normal. Women have standards too generally much higher ones. Men jsut want a women with feminine characteristics (not a caricature but warmth, supportive, care, literally stuff most women have by default), he finds attractive (not difficult most women men find attractive) and are whiling to work in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 10:21 PM
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What do you expect? Men being rejected and told they arnt good enough for women should not be resentful and depressed. A part of their human desire is being rejected, the need for connection. All Women are capable of dating a few men, and getting sex and validation from those few men. The majority of those men in the past would have died young, been killed off, or settled into some niesh far away from other most other humans. Instead today they live in a world that values sex and relationships t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 10:14 PM
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It stays alive because it works…. Partially. The reason men get rejected is because they are not attractive and/or they don’t know how to interact with women. Part of interacting and being attractive to women is dominance and confidence. No women wants to date an anxiety filled pussy of a man, red pill kills that. It just does it in a way that women don’t like.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 10:10 PM
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Men have the right not to date nor respect promiscuous women. No women is going to make men preference for women who havnt been with every guy she knows go away. You can call men insecure all you want but if it simply a projection why do you demand these men stop using it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 10:07 PM
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Validation is part of it but what’s wrong with that. Being validated from time to time is a human need as well. Connection is important as well
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 12:06 AM
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Ok but you’re not average. The person does think sex is important and basic human need. If it wasn’t why would it hold the amount of cultural, social, even economical value it does?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 11:58 PM
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Do you die if you don’t communicate with humans regularly? No but we are social animals it is still a basic need of ours. Quality of life will decline massively if you don’t socialize or have sex ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 11:56 PM
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Your using radical examples as the rule. But to answer. Money is part of attraction. A major part of masculinity is being able to have sex. Monks choose not too. It’s more respectful than not being able to but still is missing a core part of masculinity. Those men you call feminine clearly are not because they are attracting women. The weak boy band types and drug dealers are able to confirm their masculinity via sex. But still these examples are rather extreme. Take the average man who wants se…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 11:55 PM
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“Sex isn’t a big deal” kinda like the fish saying “water isn’t a big deal” Being rejected and excluded from a very core need of humanity is going to cause severe distress. Women don’t understand this because sex is easy for them. Men who get it frequently because they don’t remember what it’s like. It’s only the pathetic men (who get no sympathy for some reason) know this because they are excluded from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:19 AM
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Your complaining about the rules you play by to men that arnt even allowed to play. Men are unhappy and have no outlet for their struggles without exclusion and ridicule irl. Hense they complain on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:15 AM
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The problem with these studies is only women who are interested in being “bisexual” or “destroying the patriarchy” are involved. Classic selection bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:14 AM
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Every women in the workplace I’d ever meet got advantages over what her intellect or capability would suggest due to her looks. If women were hired just for her abilities they woudl be WAY at a disadvantage
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:11 AM
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Sex is very important for human connection and closeness. Those who discount it are getting it regularly. Your the fish that says water isn’t important.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:09 AM
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Men who don’t make a strong link between masculinity and sex are getting sex. I don’t have to worry about food scarcity that doesn’t mean food scarcity and anxiety about not having enough food doesn’t exist for others. Nevertheless I think your last statement is fair. I’d just say a male who hasn’t had sex is not a man maybe not ONLY because he hasn’t had sex but it’s critical to be considered a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:06 AM
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1 - Sex and rape are not the same thing. Sex means being chosen due to your masculinity and attraction as a man. 2- I’d say the monk is a male but not a man. I think that’s how he’d want it too. 3- Again I’d say Issac Newton was a male but his inability to have sex discounts his masculinity. You can be a genius but not be a man. Think about it many nerds make great advances in knowledge but lack masculinity. That lack of masculinity and lack of sex is the evidence of not being a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:01 AM
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Well having sex is definitely a big difference between a child and a man
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 08:45 PM
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You’re bringing up exceptions and saying it excuses the rule. The vast vast vast VAST majority of men want sex and denial of it will harm worth, and their sense of masculinity. Saying “it doesn’t matter to you because some men don’t want it” is a poor excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 08:45 PM
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“Accept that this act of basic human connection isn’t for you” your so clueless it hurts. Wanting sex and being upset it’s denied to doesn’t make you a bad person. You’re basically telling someone starving that food isn’t for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 08:41 PM
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Ok if your division is arbitrary does that mean their is no difference between the two even if you struggle to define it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 06:15 PM
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Sure a male is still a male but being a man is more then being a male
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:31 AM
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I think you have point and most things are grey and can’t be directly defined. I just think that sex to become a man is very critical and can’t be overlooked
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:30 AM
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A women saying sex is easy… yeah ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:28 AM
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There is no difference between a boy and a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:25 AM
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It’s somthing so critical to manhood that it doesn’t need to be ritualized. It’s the fish saying water doesn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:24 AM
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In the most boring burocratic sense sure. But your telling me there is no Personal nor social nor societal reaction to buying a house or getting a degree? If virginity was just a label why would it be such an insult to call a guy one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:23 AM
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Perhaps not for a women who can get it easy. But for a man it is a test of his masculinity attraction and skill. The ultimate test that proves you are not a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:21 AM
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Women don’t want to be in a Relationship even if I don’t tell her. Besides I’m sick of giving women power over me. I want sex, I can’t get it from love nor casually. This is how I get it, it’s the only way I can get it. Why should I be shammed for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:26 AM
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For the price of trying to get a women to care (with a 9/10 chance of all your work being for nothing as she just rejects you before it happens) uhhh yeah. Gotta weigh cost here. No women loves you. One is whiling to give sex for money. All other women will not. Love is not part of the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:24 AM
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I succeed in other areas as well. I own my house, I have a high paying job, and hobbies. But failure romantically and sexually is huge and devastating still. This isn’t a “therapy will fix it” issue. It’s a critical unfulfillment of your masculinity or femininity. How can you feel successful based on your achievements if you can’t fulfill a basic human need of sex and connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:28 AM
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Then doesn’t chronic rejection effect your femininity and make you feel less of a women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 04:16 AM
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Sex is a part of life not it all but the fact you suggest FWB as a counterpoint shows you don’t understand chronic rejection. That is literally not available. Its hard for me to accept your point when you havnt dealed with chronic rejection and loss of masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:32 PM
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Desiring sex is normally it’s not weird to want sex and to be upset when it’s consistently denied
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:42 PM
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What chronic rejection isn’t sad and men should “get over it” but when men infer loss of identity from actions not coinciding with identity that’s sad? I wish I could live in a hallmark movie were it all works out but it doesn’t, and we need to make sense of the failure or it will consume men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:17 AM
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“A rejection” no CHRONIC rejection. If you are consistently rejected dispute self improvement and self awareness your sense of masculinity will be diminished. It’s happening with a lot of men right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:15 AM
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The attitude of “sex isn’t a big deal” is like telling someone dying of thirst water isn’t that great and you could drown from having too much of it. If sex was just another thing then it wouldn’t have nearly as much power as it does. Women would be open to it all time like going on a date or hanging out with friends, all the time no big deal. No it’s a very high importance for both men and women, and when denied to men it deteriorates their status as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:13 AM
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Hurts less? The more you get rejected the more you lose your identity and masculinity. This leads to no self worth and Dislocation. In what world does nonstop months or years of rejection make you stronger?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:58 AM
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Women get rejected once and can find a new man in a day or two. Men can go months and years without any success. Not comparable
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:56 AM
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Masculinity isn’t the current style. It’s the traits that uniquely define men. Competitiveness, risk tolerance, hierarchal, physical strength, and of course sexual success. The last one is huge and the topic of this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:54 AM
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“Just don’t worry about validation” again you fail to understand chronic rejection. If you went this long with constant failure you’d have identity crisis too. Figuring out how to deal with an internal crisis doesn’t make you weak or the weaker sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:51 AM
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Many things, but the traits that define men uniquely. One of which is sexual success and be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:49 AM
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I don’t think you understand how much of a toll chronic rejection takes. You literally are told constantly you are not good enough and have your masculinity chipped away. That isn’t “getting rejected at a company” I don’t think women can understand this state because women arnt rejected (they reject) and even if they are they can bounce back quickly
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:48 AM
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“Your identity shouldn’t be effected by constant rejection” that’s silly. Masculinity is defined by sexual success. There a reason you’d never call an incel masculine. The point is men facing constant rejection despite attempts to improve means they are less of a man. So how should they conform the lost of masculinity to their internal identify.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:46 AM
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They may be “men” but they lack masculinity
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 04:09 AM
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Pragmatic I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 04:03 AM
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Perhaps the asexual man is less of a man but it doesn’t bother him. He has an identity that works around it. But it’s more complicated for the rest. What changes internally does a man who chronically fails at relationships and sex take on to accept the lack masculinity. If you truly don’t think relationship success is related to masculinity then prove it. You’ll really convince me if you look at my points above and try to make contextual counter claims….
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 04:02 AM
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Evolutionarily makes sense. Only 30 percent of men evolutionary reproduced thru out history. But if we are too take that role again, what internal dialogue do the 70% have within themselves to deal with them being less of a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:57 AM
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You’re denying the very essence of masculinity. Wanting to be desired and have sex is a core tenet of masculinity. Men who fail chronically at that are Less of a Man. You can say “CBT” or “get hobbies” all you want but it doesn’t remove the failing of not being a man. How internally can men deal with the fact they are missing a core, evolutionary, part of their masculinity. This isn’t rhetorical like actually how can a man deal with that within his identity
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:54 AM
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Uh huh. Cool I’m asking how men accept that they are failing at core trait of their masculinity, and with that are less of a man. How do they accept that with in their identity. You can do whatever I don’t care, discuss what you think retaining to the topic or don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:51 AM
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I despise the term “social construct” that’s basically a cop out. “Oh this doesn’t matter because big bad society only told you it does”. No masculinity is a natural and evolutionary feature of men. Taking away society won’t make masculinity disappear. I’m wondering more on the internal framing should have made that more clear. How do rejected men retain masculinity internally while being rejected
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:41 AM
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I wish I had that issue. That’s not a issue compared to being constantly rejected
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 10:38 PM
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There really is no downside.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 10:36 PM
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And I think like almost everyone here does. Still having a small population (asexuals) being a unique dialogue can help bring new ideas and resolutions. They are a very small amount of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 10:13 PM
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I’m in that not leaving any time soon
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 10:06 PM
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Rejected men are still part of the sexual and Romantic market and have a voice. Saying their opinion is worthless further devalues them, and means you will ignore problems facing a large portion of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 10:05 PM
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Why? Pragmatism stops a nuclear war or any event that stops blacken cinder not love
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 05:28 AM
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Ok be the prize and wait for women to come to you. Your going to be a waiting a long fucking time. Doesn’t matter what you do or how you improve yourself, women arnt about to give up the power of being the prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 05:25 AM
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There’s always a more attractive man. Taller, better body, less mental limitations, more attractive etc. woudl you want that man’s traits to be in your child, or your husbands dispite that fact he doesn’t have as good of traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:55 PM
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You’d have to get another man one that’s more attractive and more fit. Would you want your child to have the better genes of the more fit man, or would you want your child to be part your husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:53 PM
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It could bother him because they arnt his children he’s raising another man’s children. It’s easy to say love makes a family when you are the blood of that family. Would you rather have him be the father genetically of your children? Or do you not think that is important at all. Would you have children with him now? If you had more children would you want his and your essence to be part of the child or are you fine with it just being yours and another man’s if your husband is still around to car…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:50 PM
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Ok I understand you’d love an adoptive kid. But what I’m wondering is assume you have a child that’s is yours, and your husband was whiling to raise the child and love it his or not, would you want the baby to be his. Would you want the child to have yours and his dna, or would you not care or not be bothered if it was only yours and another man’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:46 PM
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I don’t care I’m alone I’ve accepted that. I’m trying look deeper into relationships from an evolutionary perspective. Idk why that’s so offensive
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:39 PM
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But does it upset or bother you or him that he’s not really genetically part of your children? Or that your children are part of the men you don’t like?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:37 PM
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Yeah a lot more then they like to admit
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:32 PM
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Sure I’m getting from your question you care about your man’s opinion and if that opinion is that “I want to only love a child that is mine” you’ll respect that. My question is do you, yourself outside of your husbands opinions, want your child to be part your husband and a part you (ie share both of your dna) or do you personally not care. If your husband didn’t care would you be fine if your child was only your and another man’s dna or would you want your child to have your mans and your essen…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:26 PM
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Why do you assume I’m an Atheist? I’m not I’m not agnostic nor a deist ethier. I think evolution shapes how men and women think. Attraction and relationships are such a huge portion of human condition, and at its evolutionary core it’s all about reproduction. We have been fine tuned to optimize it, Hense it’s so critical. Men who care that their child is theirs pass on their genes. Women who care that their children are genetically healthy and have resources have more children who survive
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:22 PM
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Well you have your criteria for the resourceful man good. But for the one that actually gets you pregnant would you still want that to be him? You had children with men you now see as not being resourceful to the children or you, but was it optimal to have your share the unresourceful man’s genetics?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:15 PM
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I’m expecting women’s actually views. I don’t care from an emotional personal side what you think and I’m not going to shame you. This sub also takes that assumption because we all know women can always do better. Besides most of us on here are neither resourceful nor handsome so we know all too well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:44 PM
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Hmm good point. Definitely effects the outcomes
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:42 PM
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But is it because you care that your man thinks it’s important. Or do you actually want your child to be part him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:38 PM
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Got em respect
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:37 PM
-1

I’m too neurodivergent ugly and transactional for a relationship I know that. But I also believe people are much more opportunistic then they lead on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:36 PM
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No relationship too I guess I see that wasn’t obvious now
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:32 PM
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Im extremely transactional always have been. Parents were, teachers were, friends are. You only get somthing if you’re giving something. I’m Also very opportunistic and pragmatic. Had to be in that environment
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:31 PM
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Because it’s anonymous. Good question you should ask it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:24 PM
1

I don’t care in the slightest call me retarded, i literally don’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:22 PM
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Isn’t that the point tho you get a man who provides that isn’t attractive and get pregnant with a man who is but won’t commit
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:22 PM
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Very few people care about genes consciously, subconsciously the primal part of the brain. Logically you know that guy x would be a fine father but your unexplainably (subconsciously) drawn to guy Y
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:17 PM
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No cuck fetish can’t have one I never have sex 💯
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:13 PM
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Few and far between. Plus you can always do better
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:09 PM
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I’m debating his points in a debate thread bro. Disagreeing and being able to call it out despite what others might think is totally a masculine trait. Positive masculinity isn’t just “agree with everything he says to make him feel better” women generally would favor the relationship over conflict where men would favor the conflict over the relationship. Not that the relationship is destroyed it’s able to withstand friction
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 07:24 PM
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They are in person. If we share a common goal we can be incredibly brotherly not in a gay way but like cooperations, synergy, and motivation. I disagree with parts of this guys points and I’m going to let him know. Males are more comfortable doing that. Women are more relationship preservation prone, so they are less likely to engage in conflict with peers even if friction exists. It’s not like I hate the guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 06:22 PM
2

It’s sum zero. Not being friendly or being friendly does change anything because your x by zero (the fact your unattractive)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:43 PM
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When your reject a guy who is nice and sweet and say “your going to make someone so happy” are you really thinking this guy wants me to suck his covk? Is that all a relationship is to you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:41 PM
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Your saying that we naturally will grow incapable after 20 years that doesn’t make sense. If you have a problem work thru it don’t jsut give up. Jsut because things arnt perfect doesn’t mean should be encourage to give up entirely. Nursing homes arnt a good comparisons for old people relarionships. Nursing homes also have poor hygiene, dementia, stressful environments, poor staff, poor food, and mental illness. It will affect the patients profoundly. On top of that most are alone without their w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:29 PM
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I must be confusing you with someone else then. Women are just better fit to be a family manager than a breadwinner. That’s my main point for the reasons above routed in evolution. Men have size and strength (blue color and physical work), good spatial skills (engineering, logistic, navigation), risk taking (unorthodox approaches, payoffs), higher endurance (physical work, long hours), competitive drive (ruthless environments, deal making) and better stress response (split second decisions, oper…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 02:30 AM
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The idea that everyone who has been in a marriage 20 plus years now wants out and is only force to be together due to society is ridiculous. What do most old couples hate each other? Does the companionship, trust, and routine build over those years mean nothing after 20 years? If humans truly felt this way at their natural core ,that they no longer wanted to be in a relationship with that person after 20 years, then wouldn’t you see a ton of old couples constantly cheating and separating unoffic…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 02:08 AM
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Evolution has influenced humans on a societal, relationship and a personal level. If you look at norms taboos etc you find they are always routed in evolutionary pressures or societal pressures (which are in response to evolutionary pressures). Looking at it really helps give insights to how humans behave. OP suggests these roles should reverse. That’s stupid and goes completely against evolution and the norms society set from the pressure. I’ve debated you before. You obviously are very skeptic…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 01:52 AM
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This is a debate sub he posted this looking for debate not affirmation. He’s a stranger on the internet not my bro. If he was my bro I’d be gassing him up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 01:44 AM
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I’m my experience the longer you are nice great friendly guy the more she will permanently place you in the friend category. That’s why they let you down with “your such a great guy” and “your going to make someone so happy” they are trying to do it as softy as possible because you have been great she just isn’t attracted to you. Women will put up with a lot of BS from bad guys the reason why? She find him attractive. Attraction > good guy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 01:42 AM
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Well we arnt “just mammals” we are complex creatures that pairbond and use deep trust and cooperation to thrive. We arnt dogs or cows. If you go into a relationship thinking “I’m going to be in this until I get board or I want somthing new” you’re asking for failure. And yeah in evolutionary prehistory times you did use older women to help with the raising of children. We still did that until like 50 years ago. It was normal to live right next to your parents and have them help raise your kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 11:54 PM
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That is literally basic human evolution. What context am I missing?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 11:50 PM
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You can be as caring and sweet as possible but women’s still need to be attracted to you. If you repeatedly rejected but told “your such a great guy” or somthing like that it prob means your unattractive. Women are never going to be interested in someone who is unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 11:46 PM
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Our behavior and never social norms are dictated by our evolution. Men work best in small trusted groups, work well under stress, and are physically stronger. Hense they are the breadwinners. Women have to carry the baby and feed the baby, has high empathy, better relationship skills and social cohesion skills making her better as family coordinator.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 03:26 AM
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No it goes against human evolution
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 01:19 AM
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Nope don’t care what stranger says on the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 01:18 AM
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Literally look in the comments and you’ll see your experience isn’t shared
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 12:22 AM
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But car talk is just boring. Sex talk feels emasculating to me and other men. I listen to things I find boring of there and be attentive because it does feel bad. Maybe boring but doesn’t make me feel like shit
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 12:21 AM
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Being valued as a man is based on sexual success. Women do it, men do it, and the self really does it. Hering other talking about their sexual success when you are struggling really sucks because it makes you feel emasculated ie less of a man. This is a natural feeling in men, almost all have its evolutionary. No amount of therapy will fully get rid of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 10:57 PM
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Well I’m going to pick me. You have to expect some friction in life with friends I don’t think that’s unreasonable. I don’t understand why a women women would be hurt so bad after being told by someone bugged by it they don’t want to hear amour their sex life. What gratification to they gain by talking about it what is lost by not talking about it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:25 PM
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You’re not making sense I’m sorry. You don’t interview when you become friends and no one ask “are you sexually frustrated?” Expecting no friction at topics is wild and unrealistic. If sex is a massive part of your conversations then yeah don’t be friends with people bugged by that….
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:21 PM
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“Stop being friends with someone because theyre sensitive about somthing” gee what a great conclusion
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:07 PM
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Your suggesting don’t be friends with a group of people because of somthing they can’t really help. “I’m not friends with black people because I don’t like them” great words to live by
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:00 PM
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Oh gee why didn’t I think of that. Sorry but what are you saying disenfranchise men who are rejected and feel like they are treated as sexually inert? “I’ve just fucked all my guy friends” your not a normal women then most women don’t do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:51 PM
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Women are very aware of male dynamics they occasionally engage in them themselves. If they didn’t know then women would have the power they do over men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:35 PM
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I do say it eventually they generally act like they are hurt and the relationship takes a hit
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:23 PM
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Because I’m frustrated and I have no outlet? I try not to be a total jerk here, use it as a place to voice frustration
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:18 PM
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I’m not feeling rage or the want to hurt her. I’m putting up a boundary and I don’t care what she thinks about it but I don’t understand why it’s necessary in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:08 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:00 PM
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My problem is that’s not a normal conversation. It’s not even that it’s deeply personal (which bugs me but I understand doesn’t bug everyone) but it more how men value themselves. Sexual success is a main way how men value themselves. It’s baked into male evolution and is why sexual frustration is so hard. Hearing others success especially attractive women just makes a man feel worthless and like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:53 PM
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Good point it’s not like I’m drowning these women in how sexually frustrated I am
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:43 PM
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Hearing about another’s sex as a sexually frustrated man is torture makes you feel like the biggest loser on earth. That’s not fun or interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:41 PM
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I don’t want to hear about it. It makes me feel bad about myself and disgusted. Do you want to hear about my hemorrhoids?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:34 PM
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I have. They generally get upset with me for having an issue with it and our relationship takes a hit
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:30 PM
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Creepy is a code word for “he’s not attractive so I don’t want any attention from him” getting attention from him makes the women herself feel ugly Hense it stirs a strong emotional response.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:26 PM
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I’m not going to lie I’ve heard this all before. “Love yourself and love will fine you”. I’m telling you it doesn’t work. It sounds nice doesn’t work. If you get positive feedback from others by loving yourself then great. Trust me a lot of men never get that positive feedback. “Be yourself, love yourself” doesn’t work if you’re ugly, neurodivergent, socially awkward, etc. people still see you as an aromatic silly guy at best or weird outcast at worse. You can only be told “love yourself” so muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:21 AM
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Men arnt weak they are disenfranchised. They don’t feel like women, culture, society, or really anything besides work values them. It creates a tide of apathy and no direction for men on how to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:53 AM
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A pizza is a object a human is not. If a man is rejected repeatedly it signals he is not seen as a romantic or sexual being or at least not one worth of ever acting on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:50 AM
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Sure you can do that for awhile but we are social creatures we need some positive feedback eventually. We can’t go monk mode forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:00 AM
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If a man is suppose to approach her and convince her to give him a chance. How is he suppose to do that with no positive feedback. Yeah I’ve had bad experiences with some black people before does that mean I should judge and be distant to all black people I meet?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:26 AM
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Your stated goal is to change political policy by withholding sex and relationships. I’m telling you that won’t work. You’ll just piss off more men and make them double down dividing society even more. I’m not saying date men you can’t stand but I am saying is politics isn’t everything. You really think conservatives are incapable intelligent discernment and empathy are not present in all conservatives in anyway? Really? Cmon now. If a man shared your core values then don’t be afraid. Think of i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:21 AM
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Men arnt going to change because you deny them pussy or relationship. It will make them more angry and disenfranchised and more conservative. The best way to change a man’s view is thru love and understanding. Who knows he might even change some of your views. Don’t pick a bf because of his politics, in fact ignore them. Choose one based on basic values like communication, how he gives emotional support, work ethic, intelligence, flexibility. If a political point is really that big of a deal to …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:57 AM
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Wanting to wanted romantically and sexually is a basic human desire. Even women have it, not just men. When you can’t achieve that it’s normal to want some sympathy. It’s a deeply frustrating situation and some sympathy can really go along way to calming that frustration and preventing resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:50 AM
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No. Look at reality. Most liberal women and conservative men are just not dating anymore. Men arnt changing themselves for pussy. Lot of couples today share politics now. There still are conservative women and liberal men. What really sucks is the death of any disagreeing. People especially women think they have to agree on everything 100% or it’s a deal breaker. I don’t expect friends or GFs to agree with me on everything but I still can love them and respect their view.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:46 AM
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Because women’s attractiveness standards are higher than even they think. Women say what they want but actually want more. I know a handful of guys who meet your criteria above they arnt that rare. A lot of men arnt looking for hookups they don’t find being that intimate with a stranger enjoyable. The problem isn’t these men it’s the women who say they “just didn’t feel the spark” or “wasn’t feeling it” These are code words for “he isn’t attractive” It’s good to have standards but don’t complain…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:37 AM
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What exactly is there to fight for? They have no direction. Women rights were easy to direct you have a few clearly defined goals at least in the early days. Men are disenfranchised not by law but by apathy and contempt. How do fight against a world that doesn’t value you outside of “how much work can you do for us”. Women are naturally valued and get validation. It’s evolutionarily baked into men and women. Men are valued for what they bring. Pretty much that’s only at work. Valued by women? No…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:21 AM
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People especially men are a lot more whiling to fight for things if there basics are meet. Someone who loves and care about them being one of those. Otherwise you’ll get a tide of apathy which corporations thrive in
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 01:00 AM
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While I think men over estimate the backlash they will receive. Yeah women definitely killed men’s confidence and desire to approach them. It’s no secret that women only find like 20% men Attractive and now they have the ability reach (but not long term) these men so they doing that in their 20s and 30s. I think what hurts the most is it’s not spite on women’s behalf it’s apathy. Your simply not good enough and not attractive enough so your nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:08 AM
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It’s just disgusting and frustrating to hear. Really need to stop being so nice and just say “I don’t want to hear that so stop”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:27 PM
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I’m friends with two women who have very clearly told me they can get whoever they want and because of it they are extremely picky and often will blow guys off outa the blue
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 12:43 AM
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I’ve never seen or heard of this happening to a women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 10:17 PM
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If the guy feels bad he shouldn’t be obligated to stay against his mental health. If he can remain friends with out any negative side effects by all means.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 07:14 PM
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How? This is between them. Besides it’s not like he’s leaving because other guys told him it’s because it hurts him to be around her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 06:49 PM
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Women’s primary way of control is via emotions and relationships for everyone. That’s why a women will say two faced things like telling a clearly ugly friend she not. While a man will just avoid the question or flat out say she’s ugly. It’s an evolutionary adaptation. That being said while it’s nice to have someone who care about you emotionally and prob healthier long term men don’t NEED that to live. They can live by themselves rejected just fine it’s just not fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 06:08 PM
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Forgive me but I have never seen this happen
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 06:05 PM
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So many women do this fr I don’t get it. Like why tell the sexually frustrated guy all the details about your sexlife. I had a friend tell me all the details about when she dated a guy double her age and I just felt sick listening to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 06:05 PM
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That’s all great but this isn’t because she was a bad friend this is because he’s hurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 06:03 PM
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I don’t care if a women rejects me I barely know. If someone rejects me who I care about yeah that’s hurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 11:41 PM
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So you think pairbonding is fine until you hit 40 or you face any adversity? I’d even say those things mentioned as not in our DNA are somewhat in our dna. Sex with more then one person is not a smart thing to do especially if your a women. You easily could get pregnant or get diseases. Having another man baby is a betrayal and deep concern for her man. So it makes sense especially for women that they loyal to her one man. And evolution would agree. Same with nudity. A women who walks around nud…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 10:52 PM
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Work yes Even a housewife and mom still works tho not in employment but she’s still working. It’s more the type of work and what you are supporting. Men can do a physically demanding job that requires quick and unconventional thinking. Women excel at relationships group cohesion and empathizing. So women will do a job that suits those skills. And being a mother is a job that suits those skills. Not the only one but definitely the main one
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 10:43 PM
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Well “not hookup material” makes him feel great I’m sure, but fine. I guess she’s not girlfriend material.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 10:39 PM
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You are saying lust is a larger human push than relationship. I say bullshit. Lust is a primal urge. It’s an animals most basic instinct. But we are more then our most basic instinct. We need relationships, trust, identity, stability, loyalty. Not just because it sounds nice but because having those things literally makes survival more likely. So it’s evolutionally baked into us. Yes basic lust is still powerful. Most men married or not will still primally want to fuck a hot women. But that isn’…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 10:37 PM
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Men don’t need to take care of each other emotions because they arnt irrational emotional women! In a serious note do you really think until like 10 years ago women needed to get married or they would just die. You could be a nun or spinster. Women still wanted to get married. Maybe they didn’t always marry the exact man they wanted because they had to be pragmatic (which still very much happens today) but they still wanted love belonging and a companion. If relationships are that transactional …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 10:27 PM
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Again the “social construct” things is just a reflection of biology. The vast majority of couples are monogamous. You’re really telling me they were “groomed” into thinking that way? You really think women are promiscuous today because that’s how they naturally think. Or do you think it’s a social reaction because consequences have been removed with BC and condoms. Even then the vast majority of women arnt having sex with a ton of random guys. They prefer the connection and intimacy of one dedic…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 08:29 PM
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It’s been around long enough for it to be ingrained in our biology. Sure we lived in groups before, but monogamy was still a part of it. That’s why you get a special feeling around your husband or wife, why you long for them. We literally have evolved within our hormones and bonding systems for monogamy. True the sexual drives are not made for monogamy and are much older, but that is only one part of us. Just because you want to fuck a 10/10 guy doesn’t mean you would betray your husband or BF b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 08:09 PM
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Evolutionarily men provide. If a man doesn’t even try to provide that’s unattractive. People love to blame “social constructs” but forget that they are all rooted in our evolution and biology. Men are stronger, more versatile, and can make Split-second judgment better than women making them able to provide in an often challenging world. Women are better at empathy, relationships, and gentiler making themselves better at their traditional roles. Reverse those roles and you’re working against what…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 07:49 PM
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Uhh yeah it is. Saying rejection isn’t about you is a total lie, it’s always about you. She not attracted to you that’s a failure on your part. IE you’re not good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 07:42 PM
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And men don’t NEED women. I don’t have a women right now and I’m doing fine. That being said I’d LIKE someone who I can share my life with that I’m attracted to but I don’t NEED that right now. We all understand that…. Women have more attractive options but they won’t get commitment out of them. What do you want 2 dates and cheap sex? Yeah you can get that easy. Or do you want someone that actually is invested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 07:40 PM
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I lift I think I have a good body. I naturally keep more fat on me (not obese prob around 20%) so it’s harder to see the fruits of my labor but they definitely are there especially in my legs and shoulders
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 02:54 PM
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I’m not looking for sympathy, I don’t care if you think I’m whiny. Understanding would have been a better word on my part on my behalf instead of empathy my bad
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 02:52 PM
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I appreciate your comment. Like most things the anwser prob in the middle
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 05:37 AM
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Sure you can improve your resume but have you seen the job market! Or dating market. Doesn’t matter you get the same reaction “we weren’t feeling you” For a man you have to expect a massive amount of rejection even if your “resume” is very good and you’re attractive. It breaks your confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 03:39 AM
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Yeah because women get attention constantly. Take that away and you’d be a train wreck way worse then men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 03:37 AM
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I find most are patronizing with that “your going to make someone so happy” bs
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 03:16 AM
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No because you have way more options. A man has to go thru 99 rejections before on date a women will get rejected once and accepted 99 times. Now you may not like all 99 men but you at least get that validation. Men have to have their confidence ripped apart time after time again. The closest thing I can compare to you MIGHT understand is applying for 100 jobs and not getting a response back from any. You’d feel pretty shitty too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 03:16 AM
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Women are rejected far less and can easily bounce back.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 02:30 AM
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This hasn’t happen to me personally in awhile. Last time I knew her for about a year and only really developed feelings and reviled them after about a month and was rejected. (Ie a month between feeling develop and asking her out) Afterwords I went on a trip with her and some friends and I felt horrible the whole time. At the end I told her I needed some room and I can’t talk to her for awhile. She took it well and didn’t seemed bothered. I havnt really talk to her sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:32 AM
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All that extra stuff helps but if you’re not attractive to begin with you’re kinda screwed. No women is going to date someone she’s not attracted to unless she’s extremely desperate, that’s baked into her evolution and mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:30 AM
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It’s funny how quick women lose all empathy when it comes to men. What you expect men who get their identity rejected as not good enough to be happy about it? It’s a reminder that you’re expendable. It’s not fun. It’s not the “participation trophy” bullshit quit patronizing
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:27 AM
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If your experience has been rejection, patronizing, and lack of care how can you not be bitter and resentful. It’s not like they started out that way they evolved because of what they were delt
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:25 AM
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Women value attraction. Thats not just looks but personality, intrinsic value etc. chances are if your costly getting rejected you prob lack in many of these departments. You probably re naturally ugly and neurodivergent. Can’t really fix that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:13 AM
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I don’t buy the “don’t care what other people think” validation is a core human need. Sure you don’t get it all the time but rejection is a clear lack of validation. Why not distance yourself from that pain? Btw I said nothing about being gay, I said being the “gay best friend” trope. I see what your saying about finding out how women think by being their friend they don’t feel threatened (in the sense of not wanting a romantic relationship not violence) but you gotta admit being in that positio…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 12:43 AM
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When it consistently occurs then it’s totally about attractiveness and value you don’t have enough of it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 12:07 AM
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Hard to not be defeatist when you’re constantly defeated…. And the idea that all men care about is a massive misconception. Men that only care about sex arnt upset like this about being rejected they are off to the next chick. These Men are upset because they valued her and it wasn’t reciprocated
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 12:06 AM
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Sigh is that all a relationship and longing is to you? Sex? Cmon man if you think men only care about sex and literally nothing else in a relationship your massively mistaken
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 12:03 AM
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Not actually be gay but treated like a “gay best friend” It’s not about actually being gay it’s about being humiliated being in that position
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 12:01 AM
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What I really don’t understand is why so many women care? Like you have a ton of friends outside of that guy. Why would you care what he does you have a ton of other friends to support you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:57 PM
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Uhh one is a romantic relationship and the other is in a platonic relationship. Basically the former after rejection is the “gay best friend”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:49 PM
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If you’re rejected by her it’s prob and common occurrence with other women as well. Especially hurts when it’s from someone you care about. It’s not from some women you just meet at the bar. It’s from women you care about so it hurts even more to know that care is not returned.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:47 PM
1

Wow that makes a man feel better, just be the gay best friend. Not an attack on your identity and worth
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:44 PM
1

She basically said you’re not good enough. Men are not valued naturally we are expendable, this is confirmation of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:43 PM
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Yeah not what I said you can keep saying but it doesn’t make it true. I’m not debating that won’t even read my points
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:40 PM
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This makes sense. Gotta be motivated naturally tho. I salute you wish I had your mindset
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:39 PM
1

I already said it isn’t about trying to fuck. Go ahead and believe that tho if it makes it easier to absolve you of any guilt.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:30 PM
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Yeah ok don’t listen I literally said it wasn’t about fucking but if you have to think that to absolve you of guilt go ahead but know we arnt going to get anywhere in this convo
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:29 PM
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I see what you mean they let down their cards because they dont care around you. ie they arnt attracted to you. One problem tho I foresee. Even with women who don’t like you they still are women. Relationships is how they get their power so they arnt going to do anything to jeopardize that around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:28 PM
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It very much is especially if it happens often. Women very much sort into attractive and unattractive and if you’re placed in the unattractive camp that very much is a reflection of your worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:24 PM
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Why tho? Constantly being rejected is going to ruin your self esteem no matter. She didn’t mean to but she is ruining that. Makes sense to get rid of the thing ruining self esteem to preserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:23 PM
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Why do you think my friends are exclusively going after super models? They are not they are women “in there league” if you can’t believe that then fine but they arnt going to jsut go for a 2/10 or 3/10 because women around them simply expect somthing better then themselves. That is how situationships are made.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:19 PM
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I literally said it isn’t about wanting to fuck it about feeling worthless after being rejected. Women know this but never admit because that would require feeling guilty or sad about the relationship ending. Framing it as “he just wants to fuck” is how she doesn’t feel after it ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:16 PM
3

Hard to keep high self esteem after being flat out rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:01 PM
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Because it was a real friendship. Rejection hurts and longing is devastating. Women jsut say “he just wanted to fuck” in order not to feel guilty or sad about how the relationship ended
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:58 PM
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I heard that from a lot of women and frankly I don’t believe it. I think most of the time it’s a 4/10 to 6/10 male asking out his 7/10 to 8/10 friend. Yeah it’s not her fault she’s not attracted to him but it’s still crushing because it’s his emotions at stake.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:50 PM
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“You’re just weak minded”. It’s not weird that being told you’re not good enough by someone you care about is crushing. This isn’t getting rejected by someone you meet at the bar. It be nice if everyone didn’t need any validation and could just live their lives free of relationships woes but that’s not real life
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:48 PM
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I have a lot of bellow average friends I just didn’t mention them. I’m not just saying all my friends are attractive. I’m sorry but you can’t just blame this all on the man. Women expect an 9/10 and then wonder why she can’t get commitment. The world and dating would be a lot more stable and better if women didn’t keep expecting too Much I think, IE taper their expectations to put them in line with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:45 PM
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What knowledge are you talking about? Examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:35 PM
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Not true tho it’s a perk. If men want sex they hire hookers or make a situationship. Maybe a girlfriend. Way to much to risk getting married for you not to be genuine
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:11 PM
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Delusional. Women consistently rate themselves higher and men lower then they actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:01 PM
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So literally the vast majority of men are failures to you. And you wonder why so many men hate and resent women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:35 PM
2

Well zero women never give you the spark. So it’s impossible why play. It’s rigged. It’s better to ignore and maybe slightly resent women. It doesn’t destroy your confidence, and make women have all the power over you .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:33 PM
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Oh so it’s possible for him not to be perfect and still be attracted to him
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:31 PM
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It always comes back to that a 6/10 man needs to date a 3/10 women because a 6/10 women is too good for him. Also why do you expect a man to reach literally everyone of your standards. That’s literally impossible there is always going to be somthing you don’t like about him. You can’t have a perfect man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:31 PM
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Well now we know there are two types of men so what do you want to talk about
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:29 PM
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I literally did in the second comment
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:38 PM
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There are variations but those are the two main ones you’re confusing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:24 PM
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You’re confusing two types of Men. The quiet isolated kind who are more sensitive and the ones who are more extroverted and handsome. Why would the later commit to you when they have a ton of Options because women limit the dating pool by discounting all the of the former. I know it’s hard for women to empathize with me because it sacrifices some of your power but really try here
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:19 PM
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Because The exaggeration is just what I hear online. It’s clear from a place of frustration which I can understand. You should take me seriously because I’m entitled to that jsut like I’m entitled to casual sex from a 11/10
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:35 PM
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Uhh yeah I guess? Don’t think that means entitlement. I think that jsut makes sense a 5/10 should prob be dating someone close to another 5/10. Women say this too saying men should lower their standards
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:33 PM
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You wanted equality. We evolutionarily are ment to provide and protect for women and women evolutionarily expect that. But women in the last 100 years said they didn’t want that. You can’t have it both ways
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:30 PM
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The one asking for it or the one saying at home? Cmon OP
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:28 PM
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Have you not read the body of my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:25 PM
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I literally don’t like casual sex. Nor did I ever say they are entitled to a relationship. All I’m saying is women’s standards are too high and they miscommunicate those standards
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:23 PM
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You really get no attention and no positive feedback like men I find that very hard to believe
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:20 PM
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Same as you a women your attracted to. Men are more likely to take risk in a women they might find attractive as the relationship grows where women are simply not. Women are whiling to wait until someone perfect comes because they will get that attention. Men don’t have that luxury they have to take risk or get nothing. This is coming from a miscommunication. I just think women’s standards are too high
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:18 PM
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Read the tag There is no other way to communicate attraction in a post like this except x/10. This isn’t all looks it’s personality, humor etc. It’s one thing if a man is rejected by a few women but if he’s constantly rejected what are you supposed to conclude from that. “Ohh you jsut havnt found the right women” yeah at some point you gotta call a spade a spade
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:15 PM
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Accountability for what? High women’s standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:13 PM
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To be more attractive to so women are more likely find you more attractive? Among others too liek improving how you look for you, boasting confident, acutely improving mood, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:12 PM
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You find nothing unattractive about your husband. Literally nothing? If you find one thing that’s not total attraction. And that’s total bs. Yeah he doesn’t have to be perfect to still be net attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:10 PM
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That’s the only area men have power in commitment. Just like you have power in rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:04 PM
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Right there blamed for it. Blamed for constantly being rejected and not good enough. I’m sick of it. That’s all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:02 PM
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Yes they won’t date Dorris the crackhead. My entire point is mute.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:01 PM
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It’s one of the many reason. Men are goal oriented, that’s literally evolutionarily baked into us.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:00 PM
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Because people are human. You’re always going to find something you don’t like about someone. If you don’t they are lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:00 PM
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Nah it’s not worth it at this point. Tired of being blamed for everything man. Whatever. Gotta change my tag to “blackpilled man” fr
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:58 PM
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Yes an entire person is rotten becaue they are actually a 5/10 instead of a 6/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:56 PM
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Literally said this is an exaggeration on the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:54 PM
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Did I not literally say this is an exaggeration on the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:54 PM
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Incredible easy to say when your the rejector. I know that’s unrelated to the question but your statement is so anyoying and confidence destroying. Makes me and other just want to give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:52 PM
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You think making yourself more attractive isn’t enjoyable to the man? Working out? Becoming a better communicator? Increasing their confidence? These are all things I’d recommend men do and if one of the many reasons they do it is to become more attractive then good for them. This is literally goal oriented behavior. How is this sacrificing themselves? It’s literally baked into women’s evolution that they are attracted to men who show value, well that’s one of the few things men can change so wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:50 PM
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They arnt asking for no attraction. But it’s also not fair to expect total attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:45 PM
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Discussion evolves into many things. That’s literally the fucking point of discussion. Unless I start talking about somthing completely unrelated like airplanes and start using that to prove my point, the discussion is just proceeding. All I’m saying is that women saying “those men are overrated” are mute because chances are is that those same women are overrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:42 PM
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I’m sorry it’s hard to quantitate what makes a man attractive to women. It’s not they are checking box’s it’s they are trying to make themselves more attractive. If you have an issue with that I don’t know what to tell you. I think your standards are way more common than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:38 PM
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So you’re saying all my friends are 3/10s and just unattractive to the vast majority of women? Women consistently under rate men (giving out 2/10s and 3/10s way off a standard bell curve) and giving themselves way over inflated perceived attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:36 PM
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I have friends who are bellow average in fact I’d say the majority of my friends are bellow or at average. I didn’t include them in this question. And another point this applies why more often to women then men. I’ve heard countless women and their friends WWWWAAAAYYYY over estimate much more than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:32 PM
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“I pretend to care about women and their rights to get my dick wet” yeah ok bud I’m sure you have great advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:29 PM
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I know 3/10 men and 4/10 men as well. I didn’t include them in this question because I don’t expect women to date a man they are not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:27 PM
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You make a good point but what about growing attraction? Shouldn’t you ideally grow in attraction to someone as you date? If it isn’t working out you can always leave. If you wait for perfection you’ll never try anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:26 PM
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A roof over your head and food in your fridge. These are normal things man. The men women are whiling to date are not living with their parents. Fine a good standard to have. The men who are better then that and meet your standard still get rejected and can’t find a gf
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:16 PM
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Again they do this. Ok let’s say I’m over estimating their appearance. I don’t think I am but let’s say I am, arnt women doing the exact same thing. So many women think they are more beautiful than they are. The bell curve would tell a majority of women can’t be 7/10 or 8/10 but I’ve never seen a women rate herself any lower. And yes these men are normal members of society. They have a place, a job, a social life etc. this isn’t hard to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:12 PM
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Not being desired absolutely makes you a loser especially if it happens repeatedly. It’s not nice or fair but that’s the point you don’t choose to be a loser it happens. Being around someone who also is in that trend just reminds you of it. You can make sacrifices but your the only one making them in this case and it’s deeply effecting you. Doesn’t seem like a great situation. But yeah if she’s really important to you, you will make the sacrifices all while being a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:31 PM
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Why does he have to sacrifice his mental health so she doesn’t feel abandoned? He going to feel like a mega loser all the time he’s with her and when she gets a BF it’s amplified x10. And if you’re going to say that’s a him problem, yeah it’s solved by taking a step back from her for awhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:53 PM
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If it’s causing you pain then maybe it’s worth not being mean about it but taking a major step back
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:06 PM
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I believe this is much easier for women to do this because they arnt repeatedly rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 03:12 PM
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I don’t think it’s “douchery”. Have you ever suffered thru unrequited love? It’s brutal absolutely sucks to watch someone you are attracted to date another man. Being with them reminds them. Yeah some men can be so mature and stoic they can appear it doesn’t bother them, but if he stays after rejection he is definitely feeling like shit around you. Could you blame someone for leaving in that case
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 12:54 PM
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Bruh hell world. Getting attracted to someone after getting to know them isn’t autistic
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:49 AM
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Women are definitely in the sweet spot rn. They get the rights they wanted while retaining the privilege they had. I’d expect the later to go in the next decade or so
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:10 AM
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Like I said most women WANT children they just don’t want children now. So once they realize they won’t be able to have them soon it makes them more driven to have children. Of not ALL women want children, I’d say the majority on this sub don’t, but the majority of women do want children sometime in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:54 AM
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If they guys entire goal was the fuck and he was nefarious and knew what he was doing he wouldn’t have waited for feeling to develop. He would have been trying to fuck since the beginning. Besides there is a major difference between wanting a relationship and just wanting to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:51 AM
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They didn’t “lie and waited” they asked her once they got feelings. I can’t imagine that is that hard for you to understand. I’m not self identifying as straight, I am straight. Being straight isn’t a hobby bro
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:43 AM
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Clock is very real you can’t have kids past 40 or so. Most women want kids they just want them later Hense biological clock. I know most women on this sub prob don’t want kids but most women on this sub are not a good representation of women in generals
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:39 AM
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“Men who developed feelings always had sexual attraction to her” Are you sure you’re not making up nefarious plots in order to absolve yourself of guilt? Besides just because you have sexual or romantic attraction to someone doesn’t mean you want to have a sexual or romantic relationships with them. I’m physically attracted to a lot of women but I don’t want a relationship with all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:18 AM
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I don’t like the identity aspect of it. No I’m straight and I’m not some weird off group I have a normal preference of wanting to meet someone before I get attracted to them. I don’t need another identity and giving me one just feels like your trying to go “look at me I’m special” which I don’t want. Also what’s so “weird” about getting attracted to Someone after getting to know them? I’d say it’s weirder to get into a relationship someone after a date or two or worse a hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:07 AM
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How are you confusing “getting to know” with “try out”. Yes you will become attracted to someone after getting to know them sometimes nothing wrong with that, you can’t help that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 03:59 AM
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Women say a lot of things in this scenario in order absolve themselves of guilt
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 12:15 AM
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I’m not saying it doesn’t suck for the women but I see so many women go “well he just wanted to fuck me so screw him” I believe that’s a cope out so she can feel better about a bad situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 11:44 PM
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Did you even read the post. How can you be upfront about wanting to ask her out when you havnt developed feelings yet
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 11:39 PM
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Well, good for you, man. It can be done. It just can be very difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 10:41 PM
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You don’t start with the intent of trying to date it happens naturally. You ask fairly soon after it starts. So it seems like he waited forever but reality is he didn’t once he got feeling he acted on them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 10:34 PM
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The friend if your not attracted to her it’s easy not fall for this. I have female friends I’m not attracted too and I have no issues with them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 10:29 PM
1

Are you attracted to ethier one?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 10:14 PM
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Kinda hate the term “demisexual” like I don’t need a label or an identity for everything
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 10:13 PM
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Again “developed naturally” idk what you want you want someone who cares about you as a person or someone that is trying to fuck on the 3rd date But that doesn’t matter it’s not “he chicken out therefore I won’t date him” it’s “I’m simply not attracted to him”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 10:07 PM
1

Buddy this is getting to “but I did eat breakfast today” levels
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 09:52 PM
2

Yes I understand to YOU FWB mean fuckzone that’s your definition
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 09:35 PM
2

Well that’s not what I’ve heard
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 09:35 PM
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Again two different things. This is she’s in the fuckzone because all he wanted to do was fuck. Not because they were fucking it’s a play on friend zone not a literal thing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 08:46 PM
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I know a guy where that happened and he was devastated. He thought a relationship was happening only to find out he wasn’t her type. He still can’t see her. As for me it prob would sting a little less because you were chosen even if it was just for a night but will would suck. IDK that’s never happened to me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 08:43 PM
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You and me are talking about two different things. I call what you’re talking about FWB or Situationship
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 08:40 PM
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That’s called a Situationship. Didn’t you read the part about how the feelings developed? How can you be upfront about it when you didn’t feel that way in the beginning?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 08:38 PM
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Whatever fits your narrative. They all are including Hollywood, finance and government
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 03:38 PM
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All the elites are having sex with kids bro 💀😭. All gay shit alienates the democrats from men, but that group has too much power and won’t let the democrats deemphasize it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:25 AM
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I’m sorry I’m not voting for the party that wants to teach my kids about gay sex at age 8. Maybe a right wing social views with left wing economics would really resonate with men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 05:19 PM
1

Europe has incels as well
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 05:14 PM
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Never have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 03:27 AM
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Idk bro no women ever wants to have sex with me so I can’t comment on this lol. Makes sense tho, I mean women have to know that’s like the most powerful tool in their inventory be stupid not to use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 03:25 AM
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Sure that makes sense but it also makes you a sexless loser soooo there’s that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 03:08 AM
1

Shows traits that are attractive. He doesn’t need to beat guys up but you believe he could and would do it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 02:59 AM
2

Probably not happy but accepting. That’s all they could get. But again that doesn’t happen. Even fat and ugly have higher value then ugly and fat men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:15 PM
2

You can actually find and get a escort lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:13 PM
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Nothing I just want sex but know I’m not able to get it via casual means or a gf. So I make the best outa a bad situation
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:10 PM
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It’s not a girlfriend replacement more making the best of a bad situation. You’re not getting sex and emotional connection. You can get emotional connection via being friends with a women (they love having men friends that don’t wanna have sex) and having sex with escorts. Ideally we’d all like to have a gf but it’s not possible with a lot of the men here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 04:23 PM
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I don’t think the men I’m directing this to are getting women thrown at them for nothing lol. Besides unless it’s rape there probably some interest from the women if she’s willing to have sex with him….
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 01:14 AM
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Who is having sex with an escort once a day? Like once a week or once a month maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 10:35 PM
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I’m accepting the reality of the situation and presenting a situation. I’m not blaming women for not wanting to date unattractive men and I’m not saying these men can magically overcome being naturally low value. A blackpiller falls into nillism and self pity. A white piller accepts the situation as grim as it may be and makes a real solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 06:46 AM
1

Holy shit bro that’s insanely low. I got down to 24% and felt like death. I had to stop because I literally could do my job. My body has a set point and won’t let me go below it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 06:37 AM
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I don’t think there are women equally as undesirable. A women is always going to go for as high as she can realistically get. Someone equal isn’t good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 05:16 AM
1

Yeah I regularly use escourts and generally feel better… more of a man if you will afterwards. I accept relationships are outa the picture with me
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 05:07 AM
1

Those aspirations are off the table for these men. It’s better to get somthing then to wallow away in self pity
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 03:08 AM
0

As a ADHD sufferer I’m too retarded to enter relationships lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 03:08 AM
1

It’s not really an option for these men. Pay and get something.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 03:06 AM
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That’s pretty much off the table for these men. They can live in self pity and get nothing or accept what they are and pay to get some
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 03:05 AM
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If it was up to women they would love to have a ton of male friends who have zero interest in them. Why do you think they love gay friends. Most women I interact at this point I view this way. I know I don’t have anything to attract them with so I know the answer is no and trying to force it just makes it weird. Might as well just give into their demands and just be friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 03:03 AM
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Yes you have good genetics for stamina thanks for sharing. Some of our bodies think we are constantly in famine and won’t let us use energy when in a deficit, it literally makes us tired unmotivated and exhausted. Our bodies our ment to survive famines not look good
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 03:00 AM
5

Just go on a website find an escort (if they are beautiful then they are probably fake) and try her phone number. NEVER SAY SEX, only say “escort services”. Price should be 150 to 250 a half hour
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:58 AM
5

It’s a lot cheaper too then being in a transactional relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:56 AM
3

Well that’s impossible for the men I’m talking about unfortunately. Or so soul crushing hard it might as well be. You can go thru putting yourself out there and rejection a 100 times for maybe ONE chance or just pay for it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:53 AM
3

It’s pretty much legal as long as you don’t pay directly for sex you pay for “escort services”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:51 AM
9

Going in thinking “this escourt actually cares about me” is a terrible idea. Because chances are she doesn’t. This is transactional not real love
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:51 AM
6

Sure you can keep trying, I’d recommend you do but you can’t wait years and years with no success like most have us here have with out getting discouraged. Instead of sitting in self pity do something about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:57 PM
1

Your body can make life a living hell if your try to be leaner then your suppose to be. It can make you lethargic, irritable, unmotivated etc. it’s not sustainable long term
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:55 PM
1

Good point
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:53 PM
4

I’ve accepted it. I don’t think the systems broken, I think this is just the reality of the system. Be pragmatic
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:53 PM
3

Your body can make your life a living hell if you don’t have good genetics. Always making you hungry, lethargic, irritable. I don’t believe obesity is a choice. You can influence it but it’s going to be incredibly hard and it’s going to not be sustainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:52 PM
19

Well 0*0=0
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:48 PM
7

I do it regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:48 PM
22

It’s not that it’s 100% fulfilling it’s more “its better then nothing”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:41 PM
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If they are looking for it? Enough to feel desired. The lowest value women is leagues higher than the lowest value man. Frankly put there’s always some loser looking for a women it’s up to the women to decide if he too much of a loser to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:31 PM
1

Never have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:29 PM
1

Women should only date men they are attracted to. If you’re not attracted to him you got no reason to say yes. Cruel for the undesired man but accepting that is the best way he can grow. Not all of us are desired as men and we can’t really change that, so best to accept it instead of living in self pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:29 PM
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I’ve never felt that from any women in my life. Even my mom told me she didn’t love me. Maybe that’s more drama then average Incel but the point remains I don’t get women are supposed to give me besides sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:46 AM
1

Yet you are sitting here being poorphobic smh
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:35 AM
1

Ok it’s because you’re not attracted to a poor man. That’s fine if wealth is attractive to you. It’s the same when a man doesn’t want to date a women who is fat, they arnt attracted to fat chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 09:16 PM
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I agree with OP. I’m naturally anxious, don’t like positive attention, and generally anticipates the worse. I can’t change that it’s just how my brain works. Sure you can “go to therapy” and develop coping techniques, but if the situation is stressful enough you will always revert to your natural traits. Doesn’t matter how good I look, how much I make, what I own, how tall I am, etc. my personality is simply unattractive….
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 07:27 AM
2

Not in the slightest. If you think you like a vulnerable man you already were attracted to him before. If a man were to come to you being vulnerable but he was unattractive to you, you’d probably be put off and disgusted. Attraction can vary but is normally based on masculine physical and mental traits of a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 07:02 AM
3

“All men are rapist” cmon now, I’m literally a virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 06:55 AM
1

Well I guess that’s my problem. Can’t fix that issue…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 06:52 AM
1

Parents weren’t really controlling they were just emotionally distant. Didn’t hug me, say I love you, etc. just kinda meet me needs and let me do my own thing. Makes me pretty good at working alone but also lonely and unable to really show intimacy or affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 06:37 AM
5

Yes it’s a fault in his character but it’s always “hates women sees them all has objects”. It’s more like “due to childhood abuse struggles either intimacy” or “incredibly shy”. Like they have problems but they arnt unredeemable or worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 07:54 AM
11

We all have our problems but I wouldn’t tell anyone that right away irl. I only I said it here so you’d understand my prospective.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 12:31 AM
2

Just feels like I’m trying to get into a meaningless relationship then, guess it would solve the question asked in the title tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 12:30 AM
1

For me at least it wouldn’t work. I get uncomfortable when I have physical contact like rubbing up against or even dancing. I guess it could maybe work but I feel most women can sniff that out especially with older men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 12:26 AM
12

I don’t think using this site is a fair sample size of all virgin men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 12:24 AM
35

Fair I guess. Sucks to be stuck in limbo because you didn’t act when you were younger but some else shouldnt suffer for your mistake I guess. (You is me btw)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 12:23 AM
0

Maybe it’s not reciprocated to you because you’re a jerk to them? I and most men I know I nice to women and treat them with respect. If was a jerk to women in particular I’d be fired or outcast. Generally the only people I see In public that are genuinely misogynistic are recent immigrants from the Middle East and India
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 07:30 PM
3

SO?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:48 AM
1

The idea that commitment was just pushed by the church’s secret agenda (the religion illuminate) (it’s a joke not think so much of it) instead of a natural human desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:31 AM
1

I’m criticizing how you think commitment is just social conditioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:17 AM
1

Sorry “puritanical” instead of blaming the man illuminate blame the religion illuminate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:04 AM
1

“commitment a patriarchal scheme” - what? It sounds like you think your better then your partner and he doesn’t deserve you. Don’t use people’s emotions for your temporary advantage. Stuff like that is why men become “red pilled” and misogynistic. You should probably get tested for narcissistic personality disorder….
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:23 AM
1

For real Crazy how individual and self centered people are. Why get into a relationship if you don’t love that person?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:19 AM
2

If you’re in a real serious relationship, where you fully trust the other, why would you “just leave”. I mean you’ll have differences and challenges sure but you work on those, because you want to be in the relationship. Why be in a relationship if your not committed to the other person, if your not your just FWB or in a situationship. I generally see this view from young women who think they can do better or find another guy who “made them feel special” and then want to leave their guy. Just re…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:17 AM
2

Kinda. I’m pretty nice to folks and it definitely has something to do with I don’t see them as a threat being 6’3”. However being chill is not nearly as attractive as people think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 12:42 AM
1

I’m not raising another man’s kid. Most men would agree that’s about the biggest loser you can be
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 11:14 PM
1

It’s just there’s more conservative men and more liberal women so there’s bound to be an overlap
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 11:10 PM
1

Better not to try the answer prob no, so why get the rejection disappointment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 11:05 PM
1

Men can still build plenty muscle in their 30+. If what you said was true the strongest men in the world would all be 23 (they arnt). Men become more attractive when older because they have more money and status (which is very attractive)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 06:28 AM
1

It goes from people making fun or you to people just thinking your a complete outcast weirdo. Whatever they’re probably right who cares
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 06:23 AM
1

Uhhh yeah people like hanging out with their friends. Not really sure what your getting at
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 06:20 AM
3

Can you read the title. You can’t complain about being lonely, while failing to form social bonds….. wtf are you talking about bro
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 06:18 AM
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Tho women deny it, they still see men as the provider. They feel they can trauma dumb and men will provide for their feelings. Women having to do that for men is not only opposite to how they see men, but is extremely unattractive to them hence the blowback.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 06:11 AM
1

Well duh women are getting all the benefits of a relationship without having to do anything. Of course they’re going to use that situation as long they can. Once you’re in the FZ you gotta understand you’re unattractive to her and nothing you can do will change that. Best to just distant yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 06:07 AM
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Most homosexuals make themselves know
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 06:02 AM
2

I think this a lot of projection. I don’t know what your life is like nor what the men in your life are like, but most make men arnt as you have described above and think you know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 05:56 AM
1

Because I’m a social inept loser I guess lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 05:44 AM
1

Hey man they are the happiest nation because all the sad people killed themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 05:41 AM
1

I find people become a lot less polarized when they actually enter a relationship they care about. I wouldn’t worry about it. Would I date someone with differing view… ahhh to a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 05:40 AM
1

We need more a focus on blue collar careers. When I went to HS people thought you were stupid if you weren’t going to college. Young men need to go become apprentices or take tech schooling for a few years and join a trade. Most trades are dominated by old men right now, if we do nothing there’s going to be quick a shock when they retire.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 05:37 AM
3

Look buddy not all of us can or want to go to the 3rd world to find a wife
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 05:25 AM
2

I bet you are social with those you share your special interest with. But what if you can’t find them, what if you live in a rural place. What if you have mental issues like depression. What if you’re burned out from work and you have no energy to socialize. It’s not fair to go “your situation is entirely your fault”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 10:18 PM
2

You got cause and effect backwards. It’s not they are a social outcast because they isolate. They isolate in response to being a social out cast. Every kid who went to school until they were 18 had some form of socialization (hopefully more than just that as well). There personality and coping mechanisms were formed due to that experience NOT the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 10:07 PM
4

You generally don’t want to hang out around ugly people of both sexes. So if you’re hanging out around attractive women as a young man it’s natural to want to fuck them. Key word tho is want, I want to have sex with the hot girl I saw on the street but I know I’m not going to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 10:02 PM
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