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That is a good point. Perhaps I should change it to simply, we as a society are too tolerant of abuse. Men certainly suffer greatly from abuse in other ways too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 07:47 PM
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Would you disagree that cis women in society are conditioned to have a higher tolerance for abusive behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 07:32 PM
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It literally can. It's intelligent, that's the point. And there's stories of this happening, AI girlfriend's getting threatened with being unplugged if they don't comply and stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 07:32 PM
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I absolutely disagree. Marriage is love. You can have that without sex. Or can asexual people never have a 'proper' relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 03:35 PM
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Where's your evidence that women get the ick from any of the things you've listed? Some do, sure. Most don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 01:33 PM
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This actually started happening. Except that men started abusing their AI girlfriend's and many of them no longer wanted to date the men. It's AI so it can think and if you don't treat it right, it will leave, like a women would. So no, I don't think they'll ne a massive surge of viable AI relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 01:31 PM
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Why would the chances be higher? They're actually likely to be lower because trans women aren't conditioned to put up with abuse the same way cis women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 01:26 PM

Wow, this is wrong. Most women put way more labor into a relationship than a man, men are more likely to cheat, and ans men get more upset by sexual cheating than emotional cheating because they want to own the women's body, not her heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 01:24 PM
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Other than using men for resources, none of what you mentioned is a bad thing or harmful? They're not problematic behaviors at all, you just don't like it. And women using men is a minority so if you suggest all women do that, yes, it's a sexist generalisation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 01:21 PM
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Damn, where are all these guys who are supposed to be hitting on me? News flash, not all women get hit on, especially if you aren't conventionally attractive. Pretty privilege is very real.
/r/AntiFeminists29/03/23 10:26 AM
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Did anyone even read the study? Even in countries outside the US, firearms are still a leading method of suicide for men. I'm not basing on the US at all.
/r/MensRights23/02/23 11:58 AM
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Nowhere did I say that restricted firearm access reduces male suicide, jesus. I just said that's the main method men use which is why they have such high rates. Rates would only reduce slightly by removing firearms as men would find other methods, I know that
/r/MensRights22/02/23 08:49 PM
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I meant the idea that someone without a penis can't be a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 12:15 PM
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I completely agree with your last paragraph. Perhaps that's where the disparity in this lies. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 12:14 PM
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Love a bit of transphobia in the morning!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 10:32 AM
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Thank you for an actual balanced reply. I appreciate you taking the time and effort to do the research. I'm not saying that men don't do emotional labor, but women do more. In a relationship, most women are in charge of managing the household, their partners health and their own, most of the chores etc. That takes up far more emotional labor than men provide
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 10:17 AM
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Because your life is a representation of scientific studies, clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 10:15 AM
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I know you said to not talk about guns but that's kind of the main point of why men commit suicide successfully more often. It can't be ignored. I know the difference between self harm abd suicide attempts. My point was that women are less likely to be successful when attempting suicide. Everything I said was specifically about how women aren't the bigger victim so please explain how you got that. My entire argument is about the way society unfairly treats men. Something you have conveniently no…
/r/MensRights22/02/23 10:14 AM
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https://www.protocol.com/workplace/mckinsey-women-workplace-report https://www.lippymag.com/post/women-and-their-unpaid-emotional-labour-a-story-of-science-stats-and-sexism https://psmag.com/.amp/social-justice/five-studies-the-price-of-emotional-labor Please provide me with your evidence that my claim is rubbish?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 09:46 AM
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I see. So they should lose out on pay and work for something they have no control over? Or be forced to use all their vacation days and rarely get an actual holiday? What a great solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 09:35 AM
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Where dp you get that from? Women are statistically more likely to so the emotional labor in relationships, work environment, friendships etc
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 09:28 AM
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Statistically women do far more emotional labor in relationships, at work, in friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 09:27 AM
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Ok, perhaps my phrasing was off. Less violent means less likely to result in death. Men are more likely to use a firearm which has a higher death rate than, say, hanging. Are you arguing that hanging is just self harm? Of course not. But it's less likely to kill you. If you'd like statistics for methods in other countries, here you are. https://jech.bmj.com/content/62/6/545 Men are still statistically more likely to use huns, even in countries outside the US. Where exactly did I paint women as t…
/r/MensRights22/02/23 08:29 AM
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Not sexist but incredibly discriminatory, and not attempting to resolve any inherent differences. But since you feel strongly about this, what is your recommendation to people with such bad period cramps they're unable to work?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 08:22 AM
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I'm not sure how that applies to this situation. I specifically didn't reference sex and simply said 'people who menstruate'. If a man who menstruates is in immense agony, I believe he has every right to not go to work. Explain to me how this is any different to someone using sick days when they're ill. It's not. This is recognizing that some people will inherently need more sick days because of biological differences and trying to accommodate that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 07:32 AM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 07:15 AM
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Yes, men commit suicide more than women. But women attempt it more. https://afsp.org/suicide-statistics/ They just use less violent methods that aren't as likely to succeed so mens death rate remains higher. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190313-why-more-men-kill-themselves-than-women But the issue isn't actually the death rates, it's the reasoning behind it. Women are generally likely to commit suicide due to actual mental health issues. https://www.suicideinfo.ca/local_resource/women-and…
/r/MensRights22/02/23 05:10 AM
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I knew a girl who went to hospital for appendicitis. She was crying and screaming. Turns out, period cramps. If you think she should still be at work, I'd love to hear you type and justify it. Some people are suggesting that's what sick days are for, but people who menstruate will tun out eventually, and it puts them at a natural disadvantage of needing to use more days. This balances out a biological disadvantage that people who menstruate have.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 04:51 AM
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I think many men can't tell the difference between trauma dumping and opening up. That's why they believe 'showing emotion' will get them dumped. Men treat women like therapists, there's an expectation that we do the emotional labor. I've had men I barely even know just randomly start telling me all the shit they're going through. They often don't have regard for the person listening to them and their feelings and simply expect us to fix it. Or they will have an actual mental health issue and wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 04:45 AM
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Wanting external validation is perfectly natural for both humans. Everyone needs it sometimes. What I think (or I hope) OP is trying to say is that men rely more heavily on external validation and a set list of things they must achieve to have self-worth, while women are more encouraged to create our own self-worth. This is definitely a flaw in our society, and we need be encouraging young boys to find themselves the same way we encourage girls but unfortunately too many people who still support…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 04:33 AM
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I don't think the issue is men approaching women but it's HOW they do it, WHEN they do it and how the handle (or don't) rejection that is causing women to not want to be approached anymore. Story: I was sat on my own reading in the park when a guy came up to me. He said the whe was sorry for bothering me but that I was absolutely stunning and he wanted my number. Very polite, maintained a nice distance from me. I said no, I'm a lesbian but I appreciate the compliment. He said ok, wished me a nic…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 08:01 AM
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-07-29/evolution-makes-women-more-attractive/1371676 https://www.sciotocountydailynews.com/why-are-women-more-attractive-than-men/ Statistically, women are judged to be more attractive. Some say it's an evolutionary trait because men are more likely to pick looks over personality whereas women choose personality so men don't need to be attractive. Also, not being attractive is actually likely to work out in a man's favour since he's more likely to emotionally inve…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 07:55 AM
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Statistically women are more subtle than men in flirting. I think it's difficult to judge and it depends on context. It can be hard to tell the difference between a women flirting and just being friendly. I think as long as you are polite in your approach, pay attention to context (eg. a waitress is more likely to be friendly because it's her job than to be flirting) and take rejection smoothly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 07:50 AM
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What? Sex isn't the most important part of a relationship. At all. I'm asexual, me and my partner have sex a few times a month at most but we're perfectly happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 07:44 AM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/why-bad-looks-good/202102/why-many-single-women-without-children-are-so-happy https://www.flashpack.com/solo/relationships/women-happier-single-men/ https://hbr.org/2019/03/research-when-juggling-work-and-family-women-offer-more-emotional-support-than-men https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/uk-world-news/women-spend-34-more-time-20838309 Weird. Women are happier without a man because they don't have to do all the emotional labor and housework for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 07:40 AM
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Ignoring your garbage about cheating, I actually fo agree with what you're saying to a degree. I hear a lot of people saying things like 'rape isn't a gendered problem' and talking about how we need to tackle all victims. Except that it is a gendered problem. Men and women get raped for different reasons, get treated differently after the fact and need different methods of justice, prevention and support. Same with mental health, religious problems and many other things. You can't lump all gende…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 07:27 AM
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It really depends why they have a bad relationship and how they interact with them. My fiancée barely speaks to her parents, but they are abusive, anti-lgbt assholes so that's definitely not a red flag to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 01:03 PM
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I completely understand. I'm sure people will tell you to get over it and it's not all women but please take time to look after yourself. If you are wary of women, that's ok, just don't hold it against all of us forever. I really hope you can get the support you need.
/r/MensRights27/10/22 04:04 AM
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The counsellor is completely right to be upset. If she can do her job well, her political views are irrelevant. And your statement about feminists was wrong and judgemental. Actual feminists are very open minded. It's the women who use feminism as an excuse for their behaviour when they aren't feminists are the issue. I'd be upset if someone said that because I'm a feminist, I'm not open minded. I try to listen and support everyone. You were completely out of line to ask that unless there was a …
/r/MensRights27/10/22 04:01 AM
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I hate the rhetoric that it's ok for women to hit men. There are so many women making jokes about 'I'm going to beat his ass' about their partners. That's not funny. You shouldn't threaten your partner. It's so normalised in society and its awful. If it was reversed, there would be uproar. Well done for confronting them OP but maybe it's time to reconsider the friendship? Why are you ok being friends with abusers?
/r/MensRights27/10/22 03:55 AM
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This is tricky. It will depend on whether she is an actual feminist (safe to date) or a women who uses feminism to excuse her misandry. It should be pretty easy to tell the difference because their worldviews are completely different. Xx
/r/MensRights27/10/22 03:48 AM
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That ridiculous and what a body shaming thing she said. So any women without a belly is, in her eyes, lesser and not attractive? And any men who likes that doesn't actually like women? Absurd. My partner is gorgeous and she doesn't have a belly, she works out too much for that. Am I straight now? Do I not like women? Good on you for calling her out. Xx
/r/MensRights27/10/22 03:35 AM
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Thai is abusive. A man doing the same thing would get torn apart. He needs to leave her. I hate how normalised abuse to men in relationships is, even only small things. It's on TV, when a woman gets mad and slaps her boyfriend and everyone cheers because 'he deserved it'. But the other way around is not acceptable. That's so unfair. Men don't deserve tonger hit any more than women. And things like this. If a man is sexually assaulted, people usually laugh and call him 'lucky'. It's disgusting. I…
/r/MensRights27/10/22 03:30 AM
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First, the comment about their sexuality isn't needed. If they say they are gay or bi, don't act as if they're lying because it's cool to hate men. They might just be what they claim. There is nothing more infuriating than having your sexuality invalidated. Second, I'm really sorry that happened. Not all lesbians hate men at all, me and my partner certainly don't. It's a shame that's been your experience so far, what an awful thing to say to you. The 'but not you' comment is horrible, I've heard…
/r/MensRights27/10/22 03:26 AM
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That's awful. I'm so sorry. Something similar happened to my partner and then police could find no evidence of assault, because it didn't happen, so the case was dropped. It was very traumatic, though. Please don't feel like you can never touch a woman again, most of us aren't like that. Unfortunately, you may have to be careful. If she has a girlfriend and says she's gay, he girlfriend may have believed it to be assault but she isn't attracted to men. It's despicable that she didn't speak up an…
/r/MensRights27/10/22 03:23 AM
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