butterflyvortices Archive

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2	Male Student expelled after being accused of rape... despite alleged victim "not co-operating with police" and not pressing charges Later changes her mind, doesn't press charges and "doesn't cooperate with police" I can't see where it says the accuser changed her mind. It just said she didn't cooperate with the police or press charges. IIRC, Ohio state university has a closed-door justice committee, so the accuser could testify before them, but it wouldn't count as a police report. Edit to add: The victim might not want to deal with a court case, because it's unpleasant. Reporting a rape is not just for punishing the rapist,…	/r/MensRights	25/01/13 07:36 AM
4	White House petition to change Selective Service requirements to include women. I don't see women in the IDF doing this en masse. Where are you getting this assumption on the way women will act? There were men who injured themselves to avoid the draft in the US, but they were not the majority.	/r/MensRights	25/01/13 07:28 AM
2	Recieved this in an email... Guess I won't apply ): The way it actually is at my university at least, donors can specify whatever they want, and the school will match a student. Anyways, we have these gatherings to thank our donors, and it's always hilarious to see what the specifications are. There are the usual WASP-y type scholarships, for whites who participate in debutante balls, have been presented at court (seriously who does that anymore?), were descendants of the first English ships to the US, etc. Then there are hilarious ones like: whi…	/r/MensRights	25/01/13 07:24 AM
-1	White House petition to change Selective Service requirements to include women. I will disagree, because it seems like that the people in power will keep the selective service in place as another way to control those below. There will always be options for the children of the rich to avoid a draft, from continuing education to leaving the country or even finding a domestic placement. In the event of a draft, selective service as it stands will hit the middle and lower classes, but even though a large portion of the country has this problem, it doesn't seem to be much help. …	/r/MensRights	25/01/13 07:06 AM
1	Leon Panetta removes ban on women serving in combat. Next step? Open selective service to women. How convenient that feminists identify inequity in which they are the beneficiaries If it is viewed that not being at risk of conscription should be a basic right as a person, then this is an injustice that men suffer. The aim here should be to bring men's rights up to par. The goal of feminism is to bring women's rights up to par. The goal of humanists/equal right-ists is to bring everyone's rights up to par. It would be a peculiar twist for a feminist who didn't believe in selective service as…	/r/MensRights	25/01/13 06:57 AM
3	White House petition to change Selective Service requirements to include women. So why not have a petition to end selective service altogether?	/r/MensRights	25/01/13 06:01 AM
6	White House petition to change Selective Service requirements to include women. The cause of male-only selective service is not feminism. In general, you will find that feminists believe that given a draft is absolutely necessary for whatever reason, then women should be included as well. This was even the mindset of of feminists of Gloria Steinem's era. Phyllis Schlafly was/is an anti-feminist woman opposed the ERA because it might lead to including women in the draft. It was not feminists being opposed to inclusion that skewed selective service, but rather, resistance to …	/r/MensRights	25/01/13 05:42 AM
-2	At-home dads make parenting more of a 'Guy' thing; this results in better self-control in children, less risky behavior, and better grades No, it wasn't particularly insightful, but I'm hoping that it will be a small reminder to people who jump to conclusion with correlation --> causation. I've been observing the trends on r/againstmensrights. From the pattern of the posts, it looks likes the first responders look at a title such as this one that claims that one thing results in another, and then make strange illogical fallacies wrapped in anecdotes. Then the more rational majority patches it up. By the time something is "hot" on t…	/r/MensRights	25/01/13 05:33 AM
3	I need your help If you want a research paper, a good start might be searching "men's rights" with the quotes in google/scholar. Specify a year on the left that seems relevant. This way, you can get an overview of what's current in the field. Look at which authors the papers cite and are cited by. In general, don't go into a research paper with a presupposed idea, because the point is to do some research. Best of luck!	/r/MensRights	25/01/13 05:26 AM
1	so you met a phsyco online and after he attacked you, you sued match.com cause they didn't warn you about on line dating? "heres your privilige" Anyone can file a lawsuit. Think of all the ridiculous medical malpractice lawsuits aimed at wrong doctor because the doctor who messed up was so nice.	/r/MensRights	25/01/13 05:18 AM
4	White House petition to change Selective Service requirements to include women. I'm not sure why the response to an injustice is to subject more people to the injustice. I'd rather end selective service. Happily, all my male relatives are in countries that don't have the draft option. End of problem.	/r/MensRights	25/01/13 05:14 AM
-2	At-home dads make parenting more of a 'Guy' thing; this results in better self-control in children, less risky behavior, and better grades Correlation != causation.	/r/MensRights	25/01/13 05:12 AM
1	Leon Panetta removes ban on women serving in combat. Next step? Open selective service to women. Actually, feminists are in favor of an equal draft, given that there must be a draft. See: Gloria Steinem. The main opponent to the ERA and women in the selective service was/is (she's still kicking) Phyllis Schlafly, and she is not a feminist -- and often quoted on this subreddit. However, the draft is a separate question. If an injustice (and I view government forcing young people into war, abruptly interrupting whatever personal plans, at potential loss of life and limb, as a gross insult) is…	/r/MensRights	25/01/13 05:03 AM
5	Recieved this in an email... Guess I won't apply ): I'm never quite sure how to feel about comments like this. Perhaps at some universities, there really are horribly skewed eligibility restrictions for scholarships. However, at my university there are (i) scholarships specifically targeted for white males (and males in general) because alumni set whatever criteria they want and (ii) the school-sponsored scholarships (the big ones for free education packages) are gender-neutral in the engineering school. I've reviewed twice for the committee. Yet…	/r/MensRights	25/01/13 03:56 AM
2	Recieved this in an email... Guess I won't apply ): Eligibility for the REU OP shows is not restricted to underrepresented populations.	/r/MensRights	25/01/13 03:38 AM
3	Recieved this in an email... Guess I won't apply ): The underrepresented populations probably don't have an advantage in the application. My university holds REUs in several subjects, and I know the chair of the math one personally, and this topic came up at a dinner party. The best candidates were selected for the opportunity.	/r/MensRights	25/01/13 03:37 AM
2	Leon Panetta removes ban on women serving in combat. Next step? Open selective service to women. However, women like her should have equal opportunity to serve the US in a combat position, if that is what they desire. If it's about gender neutral physical standards as spermicidallube is paraphrasing, it doesn't matter if the majority of women are one way or another. The two distributions of women and men in physical strength have different averages, but there is overlap. Some women are indeed capable of passing men's military fitness requirements and more capable than some men in the milita…	/r/MensRights	24/01/13 04:46 AM
1	Leon Panetta removes ban on women serving in combat. Next step? Open selective service to women. There's now a specific area of research dedicated to predicting stress fractures during training. (It happens more frequently in the female recruits, but it strikes men and women who have "inadequate physical condition prior to training.") The lab I toured, they were field-testing with men.	/r/MensRights	24/01/13 04:43 AM
2	Leon Panetta removes ban on women serving in combat. Next step? Open selective service to women. Not quite the same benefits. I think part of the reason this was put into place was because women were essentially used in combat positions in a war that doesn't have clear "front lines", but if they suffered from PTSD, they would not be eligible for health benefits, because they were technically not classified as combat.	/r/MensRights	24/01/13 04:33 AM
1	Leon Panetta removes ban on women serving in combat. Next step? Open selective service to women. That's interesting. I lived for a few years in a part of another country, where water was scarce. There were just no showers (or baths). Washing was done with a damp piece of towel. And not that frequently, for both the men and women. Maybe this rule will change as well?	/r/MensRights	24/01/13 04:28 AM
9	Leon Panetta removes ban on women serving in combat. Next step? Open selective service to women. It's about providing equal opportunity for the women who do exceed the requirements. For example, a girl from my school is over 6ft tall and was the captain of the girl's rugby team in high school. She dated a lineman from the football team, nicknamed "little (name)" because he was huge. (Our high school football team was quite good. I think they were state champions twice when I was in high school.) Anyways, for the talent show, they did a skit. She picked him up and placed him on the other sid…	/r/MensRights	24/01/13 04:22 AM
-2	Study shows boys outnumber girls in STEM field because boys are smarter, not because STEM fields intentionally discriminate against girls. Here is the actual paper. I have always been taught to avoid using claims from an abstract until I have read in detail the methods, results, and discussion<sup>1</sup> to ensure that the claims are well-supported. I hope people will read actually read this paper and then make comments. I'm curious to see how y'all will analyze this and will pop in tomorrow evening to see what happens. :) <sup>1</sup> Assuming the background information in the intro is already known.	/r/MensRights	14/01/13 05:16 AM
3	Almost four times as many males as females die by suicide. Suicide was the seventh leading cause of death for males. Suicide help lines focus on teens and women. I came to second this. I go to a high-pressure university and the signs and the website are gender-neutral. Only the name is gendered, and that is actually implying that the confidante will be an uncle, i.e. a man (it's actually about 50/50 split), which sometimes discourages international women students from calling because they don't know that it's gender-neutral. In the other cities I have lived in, especially near the San Francisco bridge, I've seen gender-neutral posters and specific poster…	/r/MensRights	13/01/13 04:36 PM
2	CNN: "More than 800 NYC rape cases reviewed for mistakes ... found that pieces of evidence were in the wrong rape kits." Concern for falsely convicted? No! "We know that nobody has been wrongfully That depends a great deal on the lab workflow. For example, rape kits might be processed on one bench, and samples from the crime scene might be processed on another bench farther away. A lot of these things are done by techs, and it could be a particular tech who was error-prone worked on the rape kits, but not something else. Also, from what I've heard about processing rape kits, people do them in sets, i.e. a stack of a few rape kits at a time. If a tech isn't careful, this can cause mixups b…	/r/MensRights	12/01/13 07:30 PM
2	NOW: " We must find a way to disentangle ourselves from the lethal gender narratives that lead men to violence, that lead men to kill women they seek to control .. Sexism and "masculine" posturing fuel the fire in countless murders each year" It may be outdated, but considering the majority of people live in urban counties, I think you may be overstating how "very limited" things may be. Since this is US data, large urban counties have different demographics than other counties, based on how the US government draws county lines to take into account race, political party affiliation, and property values. Since other researchers have already established that homicide rate is not independent of socioeconomic factors, education level, ra…	/r/MensRights	28/12/12 11:39 PM
3	NOW: " We must find a way to disentangle ourselves from the lethal gender narratives that lead men to violence, that lead men to kill women they seek to control .. Sexism and "masculine" posturing fuel the fire in countless murders each year" Most female murder victims are ones of the domestic variety, but then looking at [2] domestic murder, men are the majority of victims there as well. This Bureau of Justice Statistics is an analysis of 1988 data from large urban counties. Not only may the data be outdated, the analysis is necessarily limited by the very limited demographics of the sample data. Perhaps we should look at [1] actual numbers, and ask why men are 4 times more likely to be murdered, or what those 12% of murders that we…	/r/MensRights	28/12/12 11:11 PM
2	NOW: " We must find a way to disentangle ourselves from the lethal gender narratives that lead men to violence, that lead men to kill women they seek to control .. Sexism and "masculine" posturing fuel the fire in countless murders each year" Data clusters are sometimes random. There might not be a root cause. In searching for causes, I would hope that researchers are objective rather than goal-oriented, i.e. not limiting the search to MRA hot topics. Moreover, it's really hard to establish a causative relationship. Correlation does not imply causation, as many in the other comments are clearly forgetting. I agree that only then can we begin with possible solutions.	/r/MensRights	28/12/12 10:56 PM